Cebú City and Province [Archive] - Page 228

Henz

July 13th, 2009, 09:23 AM

There is no doubt that Cebu has been experiencing growth even before GMA but the city sinks deeper into the consciousness of non-Cebuanos when she took her oath there, the first in the history that an oathtaking was done outside Luzon. Almost all TV stations carried that story showing the famous landmarks of Cebu esp. the breathtaking Cebu capitol. I don't know much about Malacanang in the South if it has bearing....i think this is just for photo-op.

She mentioned several times in media about her gratitude to Cebuanos who gave her 1 million votes (in all honesty, I believe this without the aid of Garci :lol:).

i remember.. a child contestant.. about 4 or 5 years old during Eat Bulaga's, Little Miss Philippines contest... asked by Tito and Vic Sotto, what is her ambition i life.. She said, " makarating ng ibang bansa", when asked what country she would like to go, the child answers " Cebu".. then everybody laughs.. ( this happened when Aiza Seguerra was still a child and also a contestant of that Ms. Little Philippines of Eat Bulaga).

Now.. if this child, who knew Cebu already and even mistaken it as another country... " then Cebu must have sinked deeper already into the thoughts of the children of Non-Cebuanos a few years ago before the so called GMA inauguration."

the argument is still flimsy and unacceptable...

True, she had helped in some aspects.. but the growth of Cebu is the result of Cebuanos hardwork.. until now.. i still had to know a concrete project of GMA in Cebu as her gratitude to the Cebuanos.. maybe to the politician Cebuanos she might had paid already.. but not to the Cebuanos per se...

BULLDOG

July 13th, 2009, 09:25 AM

we shared our opinions.. its an insult to us Cebuanos to say that because of her we have tremendous growth.. :ohno:

MCIA.. even it is an authority governed by its own rules , the president have alot of say...she has a say in almost everything as far as i know... if she wills it.. after all expansion of the MCIA is of national interest.. but she was at the helm for 10 years.. she did not do something.

The SRP tunnel is not her project, as other forumers said, it is part of the whole SRP packages.

The Cebu North Road project.... a what ??? Cebu North road.. i hope that will be finished since it is already almost a decade....... :bash:
So what other project did PGMA give to Cebu which is of economic importance so we can attribute Cebu's growth to her????:bash:
:lol::lol::lol:

if the private sector's development becomes bullish simply because they have trust the economic development plan of the present administration.......kung lahat ng bagay pakikialaman nalang ng presidente so di na natin kailangan ng ibat-ibang department upang mangasiwa..........kong maraming foreign investors ngayon dahil na rin sa effort ng present administration headed by PGMA.....AT WALANG CONTRIBUTION ANG KAHIT SINONG TAGA OPPOSITION SA STRONG ECONOMY NG BANSA NGAYON :bash::bash::bash::bash:

Sleepwalker

July 13th, 2009, 09:26 AM

^^I hope this discussion will just flow out smoothly... :)

Sleepwalker

July 13th, 2009, 09:28 AM

if the private sector's development becomes bullish simply because they have trust the economic development plan of the present administration.......kung lahat ng bagay pakikialaman nalang ng presidente so di na natin kailangan ng ibat-ibang department upang mangasiwa..........kong maraming foreign investors ngayon dahil na rin sa effort ng present administration headed by PGMA.....AT WALANG CONTRIBUTION ANG KAHIT SINONG TAGA OPPOSITION SA STRONG ECONOMY NG BANSA NGAYON :bash::bash::bash::bash:

Did we mention the oppositions here?

Henz

July 13th, 2009, 09:31 AM

BULLDOG

July 13th, 2009, 09:42 AM

let's just put it this way: gma is right where she is today - partly (or?) mainly - because of cebu. and more 'great' things are happening to cebu because of gma.

baws2x ra.

that's the right way to say......sana ang iba dyan wag bulag sa nakikita nila :banana::banana::banana: baka matuluyan :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Sleepwalker

July 13th, 2009, 09:45 AM

Ang nakita nako bai, kay mga hotel ug mga office buildings namarog...Si GMA ning-invest ana?

BULLDOG

July 13th, 2009, 09:45 AM

if dili pa si ace durano ang tourism secretary sa DOT, do you think ing ani ka booming ang tourism industry sa Cebu? unya kinsa man ang nag butang niya sa puwesto di ba si PGMA?

you are totally right....kaya makinig ang mga bingi kay basig mabungol mo ka dayon:lol::lol::lol: kayong mga anti GMA wag nyo lang tingnan ang mali dahil marimi ding tama na nangyari sa bansa because of PGMA :cheers::cheers::cheers:

Sleepwalker

July 13th, 2009, 09:47 AM

you are totally right....kaya makinig ang mga bingi kay basig mabungol mo ka dayon:lol::lol::lol: kayong mga anti GMA wag nyo lang tingnan ang mali dahil marimi ding tama na nangyari sa bansa because of PGMA :cheers::cheers::cheers:

Asus...Tua ra...Ninggawas na gud imong tinuod nga tuyo...We are not anti-GMA..I even voted for her...But I am more of pro-Cebu than pro-GMA.

Anyway, we appreciate GMA's efforts.

Case closed. Back to regular programming.

BULLDOG

July 13th, 2009, 09:53 AM

Did we mention the oppositions here?

gusto ko lang linawin...:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

BULLDOG

July 13th, 2009, 09:55 AM

you dont drag the opposition or any of your anarchical hallucinations here..
were talking here of the :bash::bash:reality.. period.

the reality is .... pilit mong pinagdiinan na walang nagawa si GMA sa Cebu....then the reality that you are trying to mean is WRONG :bash::bash::bash:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 13th, 2009, 09:55 AM

^^Personally, I just don't like the notion that if it is not because of GMA, Cebu would not be like this now.

Yes, she helped Cebu, same way as she provided infrastructure projects in other places. She is just doing her job. And we appreciate it.

The only difference GMA compared with the previous presidents, is that she feel at home in Cebu and she is comfortable to be always here. Now thats a big difference for us.

me too, its like Cebu was a left out lad whose trying to fit in para lang musikat etc.

There is no doubt that Cebu has been experiencing growth even before GMA but the city sinks deeper into the consciousness of non-Cebuanos when she took her oath there, the first in the history that an oathtaking was done outside Luzon. Almost all TV stations carried that story showing the famous landmarks of Cebu esp. the breathtaking Cebu capitol. I don't know much about Malacanang in the South if it has bearing....i think this is just for photo-op.

I'm curious lang if your just sharing your own thoughts about it or you just happen to know lang talaga what the rest of the philippines had to say about that historic event.

To be honest, even if GMA had a huge margin of votes from another province and then blessed it with projects, Cebu would still be what it is today. Regardless of whichever administration that may be, Cebu would still be in its position today. I can see that from my childhood all through my adult life as a Cebuano. It doesn't take much figuring out.

i agree! independent minded ang mga cebuanos. if GMA was just another president who disregard cebu over the years, Cebu can still exhibit the kind of attitude she has had over the years that if one wants to grow, one must not wait to be feed by someone else. Diba there's a famous line that says: Give a man a fish and you feed him for today; Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"

i remember.. a child contestant.. about 4 or 5 years old during Eat Bulaga's, Little Miss Philippines contest... asked by Tito and Vic Sotto, what is her ambition i life.. She said, " makarating ng ibang bansa", when asked what country she would like to go, the child answers " Cebu".. then everybody laughs.. ( this happened when Aiza Seguerra was still a child and also a contestant of that Ms. Little Philippines of Eat Bulaga).

Now.. if this child, who knew Cebu already and even mistaken it as another country... " then Cebu must have sinked deeper already into the thoughts of the children of Non-Cebuanos a few years ago before the so called GMA inauguration."

i don't know that! hehehe...:lol::lol::D

Henz

July 13th, 2009, 09:58 AM

did i say nothing ( as in walang nagawa?).. read my posts again.. and when you read.. try to understand sad... ok??

FYI, i also voted for GMA.... ang akong gipangita ang iyang project sa mga Cebuano.. na napuslan sa mga Cebuano....

Sleepwalker

July 13th, 2009, 10:01 AM

Mao na lisod lagi, basta pataka lang og hasmag...Mas maayo gud unta sabton sa ang gipang-post una mo-react. :ohno:

RonnieR

July 13th, 2009, 10:03 AM

i remember.. a child contestant.. about 4 or 5 years old during Eat Bulaga's, Little Miss Philippines contest... asked by Tito and Vic Sotto, what is her ambition i life.. She said, " makarating ng ibang bansa", when asked what country she would like to go, the child answers " Cebu".. then everybody laughs.. ( this happened when Aiza Seguerra was still a child and also a contestant of that Ms. Little Philippines of Eat Bulaga).

Now.. if this child, who knew Cebu already and even mistaken it as another country... " then Cebu must have sinked deeper already into the thoughts of the children of Non-Cebuanos a few years ago before the so called GMA inauguration."

the argument is still flimsy and unacceptable...

True, she had helped in some aspects.. but the growth of Cebu is the result of Cebuanos hardwork.. until now.. i still had to know a concrete project of GMA in Cebu as her gratitude to the Cebuanos.. maybe to the politician Cebuanos she might had paid already.. but not to the Cebuanos per se...

Your argument veered away from my point. Did I say that that the growth of Cebu was not due to the hardworking Cebuanos? My point here is: not so many people here from Manila have seen Cebu. They just see the city thru the extensive media mileage that Cebu generated either from TV or print media.

Come to think of it, the government has done well in promoting Cebu to the outside world as a safe place to invest.

This adminstration worked hard together with your local officials in having that successful ASEAN/ASIAN summit in Cebu , the first time an event like this held outside the capital. Don't you think without the ever supportive GMA, that summit would be a reality?

Don't bring an analogy with a 5 year old kid as this is not the way a Cebuano gives his/her view.

diehardbisdak

July 13th, 2009, 10:04 AM

SineBuano

July 13th, 2009, 10:04 AM

I check lang daan ang pressure...

diehardbisdak

July 13th, 2009, 10:05 AM

...or, discuss about Cebu's Rich Marine Sanctuary

(photos taken at Shangrila's private beach)

flickr pics by @garrick2008
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Henz

July 13th, 2009, 10:07 AM

Your argument veered away from my point. Did I say that that the growth of Cebu was not due to the hardworking Cebuanos? My point here is: not so many people here from Manila have seen Cebu. They just see the city thru the extensive media mileage that Cebu generated either from TV or print media.

Come to think of it, the government has done well in promoting Cebu to the outside world as a safe place to invest.

This adminstration worked hard together with your local officials in having that successful ASEAN/ASIAN summit in Cebu , the first time an event like this held outside the capital. Don't you think without the ever supportive GMA, that summit would be a reality?

Don't bring an analogy with a 5 year old kid as this is not the way a Cebuano gives his/her view.

ang problema man gud ninyo mga taga Manila bai.. kay kamo na maayong laki ba.... nga nisikat ang Cebu kay inyong gipasikat.

balik ta sa analogy nako.. dili na kaayo lisod sabton bai.. ako man jud nang giinglis.. hala sabta na..

diehardbisdak

July 13th, 2009, 10:08 AM

I check lang daan ang pressure...

unsa nga pressure bai...water pressure or tire pressure? LOL!

zidlakan

July 13th, 2009, 10:08 AM

ahem, ahem, ... kalma lang gamay ... there is such a thing as a healthy
constructive argument or debate.

nothing gained if we elevate this to an emotional angry verbal match ...

Precisely thats my point, we Cebuanos party or mainly put her to where she belongs now.... but i am asking what is or are the "great" things she had done to Cebu?

And take note "great" which if we qualify.. should be of economic importance that redounds to the lives and lifestyle of the Cebuanos.. so we can rightfully say as "bawos" nya as a gratitude for the Cebuanos..

Ramos.. had the second Mandaue Mactan Bridge...

i'd like to offer an opinion here ... and i'll start off with the above emphasized
phrases and the fact that ramos was mentioned ...

when we ask "what 'great' things she had done to Cebu?," we need to place
this in comparison with all the other past presidents - marcos, cory, ramos,
and erap (let's not include the pre-marcos presidents). i mean GMA couldn't
have done anything great if the others did, too, right? it's not as if, GMA
was the only president to do something for cebu - i think the others did, too,
in varying degrees. of course, there's no denying that, 1) GMA has a soft
heart for cebu, 2) she was inaugurated here, which placed cebu not only
in the philippine conciousness but in the world map as well. 3) she visits
cebu more often than all the rest of them combined (and i'm not kidding -
GMA frequents cebu so often it's no longer news!), she often does things
for cebu whenever she's here ...

but Henz'es question strikes us in the face, "what 'great' things she had done
to Cebu, .. which are of economic importance that redounds to the lives and
lifestyle of the Cebuanos?" ....... stop, and think deeply of the question.

the answer lies in two points - 1) share of national government budget given
to cebu, and 2) significant economic projects allocated to cebu.

you try to research back on national government expenditure the last 20
years and see how much of the national budget was given to cebu. ayaw
na lang i-apil sa time ni marcos kay gamay ra man jud to! so the proper
question to ask is, was there a remarkable increase in national government
spending under GMA for cebu? whether you like it or not, GMA is the pres.
and whatever she does to cebu as president shall be in the form of a national
government expenditure and done through agency budgets. ang-ang man
personal money iyang gi gamit.

so the correct question to ask, if we are to determine if GMA did more to
cebu (than the previous presidents) is, did cebu get any increase budget
during her term?

the answer is no. same as cory, ramos, and erap's terms, the bulk of nat'l.
government spending was concentrated on metro-manila (NCR), region 3
and region 4. this is not a whining complaint. this is a statement of fact.
though we can't deny that cebu had been GMA's favorite from the very
start - and that's based on logic - first, because we gave her a 1,000,000
majority, and second, because she gets less opposition here. in fact, some
of us in government often quip, that GMA comes to cebu very often in order
to escape the pressure in manila where she gets battered left and right -
so she runs to cebu to cool off and recuperate. in return she give cebu
special favors. and we should not take that from her - we should thank
her for all she's done.

but to go back to the question, ""what 'great' things she had done to Cebu,
.. which are of economic importance that redounds to the lives and lifestyle
of the Cebuanos?," i'm afraid the answer is not much over what previous
presidents have done. if you want to verify this, just look at the national
budget and the cebu allocation for the past 20 years.

Sleepwalker

July 13th, 2009, 10:12 AM

Cebu's other side
flickr photo by oscarmachaconjr

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2606/3712190761_e901c0497d.jpg

Henz

July 13th, 2009, 10:15 AM

Now.. i rest my case..

BULLDOG

July 13th, 2009, 10:16 AM

Sleepwalker

July 13th, 2009, 10:19 AM

Swerte gud diay ang Metro Manila, Region 3 ug Region 4...Maybe, they sweat gold there, while the rest of the country only sweats silver.

SleMarKen

July 13th, 2009, 10:21 AM

Like this nalang...
PGMA gave none or only a few projects such as infras in Cebu...
BUT
PGMA gave 100% support to Cebu spcecially in tourism and economy although Cebu was already progressive before her term but atleast her undying support to Cebu gave an additional growth to it...

so there it is...:)

Henz

July 13th, 2009, 10:23 AM

safe kaayo da.. lisod banggaon.. hehehe

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 13th, 2009, 10:26 AM

I check lang daan ang pressure...

tabang nurse! dali! hehehe...

i'd like to offer an opinion here ... and i'll start off with the above emphasized
phrases and the fact that ramos was mentioned ...

when we ask "what 'great' things she had done to Cebu?," we need to place
this in comparison with all the other past presidents - marcos, cory, ramos,
and erap (let's not include the pre-marcos presidents). i mean GMA couldn't
have done anything great if the others did, too, right? it's not as if, GMA
was the only president to do something for cebu - i think the others did, too,
in varying degrees. of course, there's no denying that, 1) GMA has a soft
heart for cebu, 2) she was inaugurated here, which placed cebu not only
in the philippine conciousness but in the world map as well. 3) she visits
cebu more often than all the rest of them combined (and i'm not kidding -
GMA frequents cebu so often it's no longer news!), she often does things
for cebu whenever she's here ...

but Henz'es question strikes us in the face, "what 'great' things she had done
to Cebu, .. which are of economic importance that redounds to the lives and
lifestyle of the Cebuanos?" ....... stop, and think deeply of the question.

the answer lies in two points - 1) share of national government budget given
to cebu, and 2) significant economic projects allocated to cebu.

you try to research back on national government expenditure the last 20
years and see how much of the national budget was given to cebu. ayaw
na lang i-apil sa time ni marcos kay gamay ra man jud to! so the proper
question to ask is, was there a remarkable increase in national government
spending under GMA for cebu? whether you like it or not, GMA is the pres.
and whatever she does to cebu as president shall be in the form of a national
government expenditure and done through agency budgets. ang-ang man
personal money iyang gi gamit.

so the correct question to ask, if we are to determine if GMA did more to
cebu (than the previous presidents) is, did cebu get any increase budget
during her term?

the answer is no. same as cory, ramos, and erap's terms, the bulk of nat'l.
government spending was concentrated on metro-manila (NCR), region 3
and region 4. this is not a whining complaint. this is a statement of fact.
though we can't deny that cebu had been GMA's favorite from the very
start - and that's based on logic - first, because we gave her a 1,000,000
majority, and second, because she gets less opposition here. in fact, some
of us in government often quip, that GMA comes to cebu very often in order
to escape the pressure in manila where she gets battered left and right -
so she runs to cebu to cool off and recuperate. in return she give cebu
special favors. and we should not take that from her - we should thank
her for all she's done.

but to go back to the question, ""what 'great' things she had done to Cebu,
.. which are of economic importance that redounds to the lives and lifestyle
of the Cebuanos?," i'm afraid the answer is not much over what previous
presidents have done. if you want to verify this, just look at the national
budget and the cebu allocation for the past 20 years.

bravo! :applause::applause::master::master:

ganahan gyud kaayo ko maminaw sa mga explaination ni sir paul uy kay daghan gyud ko'g makatunan! idol gyud tika sir paul! :eat::eat:

ang-ang naman sad, baga na sad kaayo ka'g nawong kung imo pang lalison si sir paul na klaro gyud kaayo tanan! si sir paul aka zidlakan na gud na! :cheers:

rustyboi

July 13th, 2009, 10:27 AM

Thanks Sir Paul for sharing your thoughts about the topic at hand, I was surely enlightened. and I guess someone should share us some info regarding Cebu's share/allocation from the National budget for the past 20 years. how SMALL is it? hehe

I'd rather talk about this than reading Sunstar's headlines today. It's making me go crazy you know :nuts:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 13th, 2009, 10:32 AM

^^

mao gyud bai @resty. nalisang ko sa mga personalities karong adlawa! nagpaswabe gyud ang mga hinampak! hehehe....:lol::lol::D:bash:

Sleepwalker

July 13th, 2009, 10:36 AM

I wonder what happened to the rumored third district for Cebu City and additional two districts for Cebu province?

diehardbisdak

July 13th, 2009, 10:40 AM

wala lang! ...SM Cebu Cinemas & Ayala Center Cebu Cinemas the only 2 from the Visayas & Mindanao which made it in the list :okay:

Top 20 Cinemas with Highest Sales during the screening of the
movie TRANSFORMER 2:

1. SM Mall of Asia (including IMAX)
2. Ayala Mall Trinoma
3. SM North EDSA (including The Block)
4. SM Megamall
5. Ayala Mall Glorietta 4
6. Araneta Center Gateway Cineplex (including Ali Mall)
7. Eastwood Cinemas
8. Rockwell Powerplant
9. SM Cebu - dili na gyud mapugngan ang IMAX ani! LOL
10. Ayala Mall Greenbelt 3
11. Shangri-la Plaza Shang Cineplex
12. Festival Mall Cinemas
13. Robinsons Ermita
14. Ayala Mall Alabang Town Center
15. SM Fairview
16. Ayala Mall Cebu
17. SM San Lazaro
18. Sta. Lucia East
19. Robinsons Galleria
20. Greenhills Theater Mall & Promenade

source: www.smcinema.com

rustyboi

July 13th, 2009, 10:45 AM

Mayor Osmeña's visit to Bogota, Columbia

http://cebu-brt.com/villaretefiles/bogotapictures/group.jpg
Mayor Tommy and Margot Osmeña with former Bogota Mayor Enrique Peñalosa,
together with friends Hector Almario and Raul Sususco

http://cebu-brt.com/villaretefiles/bogotapictures/TransMilenio.jpg
Trying out the BRT: Tommy and Margot rides the TransMilenio,
Bogota's Bus Rapid Transit, with Enrique Peñalosa and friends ...

Mayor Osmeña visits TransMilenio Headquarters

http://cebu-brt.com/villaretefiles/bogotapictures/TMcontrol01.jpg
Mayor Tommy and Margot Osmeña listens to a TransMilenio staff
explain how this BRT works in Bogota

http://cebu-brt.com/villaretefiles/bogotapictures/TMcontrol02.jpg
Tommy asks questions about BRT operations
note BRT operations video display in background

http://cebu-brt.com/villaretefiles/bogotapictures/TMcontrol03.jpg
The TransMilenio Headquarters/Control Center

usefull info/links:

TransMilenio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransMilenio) --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransMilenio
Bogota, Columbia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogot%C3%A1) --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogot%C3%A1
Enrique Peñalosa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Pe%C3%B1alosa) --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Pe%C3%B1alosa

It's really good to see Mayor Tom again (at least in photos). He looks healthy now. :okay: and boy that BRT would look really really good in Cebu's streets! :cheers2:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 13th, 2009, 10:49 AM

It's really good to see Mayor Tom again (at least in photos). He looks healthy now. :okay: and boy that BRT would look really really good in Cebu's streets! :cheers2:

^^ and i don't think the quack doctor agrees with you bai @resty. hehehe...:lol::lol::D

rustyboi

July 13th, 2009, 10:53 AM

^^I mean "healthier" diay compared to when he was bald. hehe. but evidently he lost too much weight na. hopefully he's on his way to full recovery.

zidlakan

July 13th, 2009, 10:57 AM

Now.. i rest my case..Like this nalang... ... PGMA gave none or only a few projects such as infras in Cebu... BUT .... PGMA gave 100% support to Cebu spcecially in tourism and economy although Cebu was already progressive before her term but atleast her undying support to Cebu gave an additional growth to it...
so there it is...:)bravo! :applause::applause::master::master:
ganahan gyud kaayo ko maminaw sa mga explaination ni sir paul uy kay daghan gyud ko'g makatunan! idol gyud tika sir paul! :eat::eat:
ang-ang naman sad, baga na sad kaayo ka'g nawong kung imo pang lalison si sir paul na klaro gyud kaayo tanan! si sir paul aka zidlakan na gud na! :cheers:Thanks Sir Paul for sharing your thoughts about the topic at hand, I was surely enlightened. and I guess someone should share us some info regarding Cebu's share/allocation from the National budget for the past 20 years. how SMALL is it? hehe
I'd rather talk about this than reading Sunstar's headlines today. It's making me go crazy you know :nuts:

waaaaaaa .... wa pa ko mahuman, ahahaha ....

bitaw. let me get this straight - i am with mayor osmeña and i belong to
BOPK, which supported GMA in the last 2 elections. i voted for GMA, too.

but all i am saying here is that as far as economic projects are concerned,
there was no significant windfall for cebu.

however, let's complete the picture in the sense that there were also "other"
things that GMA had done which might not be in the form of "projects." for
one she issued presidential proclamations transferring land from national
government to urban poor housing sites. she issued the presidential procla-
mation for the SRP, too, remember? and a lot of other proclamations and
issuances which were favorable to cebu. so as what i said, there are a lot
of things we could be thankful to her for.

pero as far as contribution to the cebu economy and what it is now, i
honestly think its the private sector and the cebuanos in general who made
this happen. GMA's main projects remain concentrated in the north rail, the
subic and clark areas, the expressways in luzon, the LRTs/MRTs in metro
manila, and the like. cge na lang. let's do what we can. ang ako lang,
basta lang matagaan ta'g gamay'ng pag-tagad, ug unta ang BRT magahinan
ug gamay'ng budget puhon, ok na ko, he he he

Henz

July 13th, 2009, 11:02 AM

bitaw... we cant do nothing about it na.. honestly i am really whining..

just imagine lang.. what will be Cebu pa.. if she had poured money for Cebu through projects with long term economic impact.. maski ang Cebu LRT na lang unta or the renovation/expansion of the Mactan International Airport...

rustyboi

July 13th, 2009, 11:05 AM

^^Let's go Federal? :? this comes into my mind, but I dunno how huge the impact/difference would be. I see more progress when we're independent or something. :)

Sleepwalker

July 13th, 2009, 11:08 AM

^^Let's go Federal? :? this comes into my mind, but I dunno how huge the impact/difference would be. I see more progress when we're independent or something. :)

I support federalism.

habagatcentral1

July 13th, 2009, 11:09 AM

^^Let's go Federal? :? this comes into my mind, but I dunno how huge the impact/difference would be. I see more progress when we're independent or something. :)

I support federalism.

Cha-Cha na ta! Hehehe!! :colgate:

By the way, ABSCBN I think will have a presidentiables debate for the Halalan 2010 Elections on ANC. This time it would be RNG's turn (Regional Network Group) and I'll be expecting proponents of federalism at the show itself. :)

Wind Shear

July 13th, 2009, 11:09 AM

^^Let's go Federal? :? this comes into my mind, but I dunno how huge the impact/difference would be. I see more progress when we're independent or something. :)

Well, let's go... Federal! :cheers:

I wonder if what model constitution we gonna use?

Anyway, regarding the discussion of who's taking the credit and et cetera, @zidlakan is right, the credit goes to hard-working Cebuanos. As Emilio Osmeña told to the people after Typhoon Ruping event, "Cebu is down but not out, and we can stand on our own". And it becomes a battle cry for Cebuanos.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 13th, 2009, 11:12 AM

waaaaaaa .... wa pa ko mahuman, ahahaha ....

bitaw. let me get this straight - i am with mayor osmeña and i belong to
BOPK, which supported GMA in the last 2 elections. i voted for GMA, too.

but all i am saying here is that as far as economic projects are concerned,
there was no significant windfall for cebu.

however, let's complete the picture in the sense that there were also "other"
things that GMA had done which might not be in the form of "projects." for
one she issued presidential proclamations transferring land from national
government to urban poor housing sites. she issued the presidential procla-
mation for the SRP, too, remember? and a lot of other proclamations and
issuances which were favorable to cebu. so as what i said, there are a lot
of things we could be thankful to her for.

pero as far as contribution to the cebu economy and what it is now, i
honestly think its the private sector and the cebuanos in general who made
this happen. GMA's main projects remain concentrated in the north rail, the
subic and clark areas, the expressways in luzon, the LRTs/MRTs in metro
manila, and the like. cge na lang. let's do what we can. ang ako lang,
basta lang matagaan ta'g gamay'ng pag-tagad, ug unta ang BRT magahinan
ug gamay'ng budget puhon, ok na ko, he he he

bitaw... we cant do nothing about it na.. honestly i am really whining..

just imagine lang.. what will be Cebu pa.. if she had poured money for Cebu through projects with long term economic impact.. maski ang Cebu LRT na lang unta or the renovation/expansion of the Mactan International Airport...

^^Let's go Federal? :? this comes into my mind, but I dunno how huge the impact/difference would be. I see more progress when we're independent or something. :)

I FIRMLY BELIEVE!

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 13th, 2009, 11:14 AM

Cha-Cha na ta! Hehehe!! :colgate:

By the way, ABSCBN I think will have a presidentiables debate for the Halalan 2010 Elections on ANC. This time it would be RNG's turn (Regional Network Group) and I'll be expecting proponents of federalism at the show itself. :)

yes coz mas pabor man ta sa federalism labi na kita dinhi sa habagatang bahin sa pilipinas kaysa sa mga ubang grupo dinha na gahom ra'y nagpahawod ug nagpatigbabaw kanunay. :bash:

Sleepwalker

July 13th, 2009, 11:20 AM

yes coz mas pabor man ta sa federalism labi na kita dinhi sa habagatang bahin sa pilipinas kaysa sa mga ubang grupo dinha na gahom ra'y nagpahawod ug nagpatigbabaw kanunay. :bash:

Para makita ang katag!!!

Sige na lang ta og dawat ani og mumho?

RonnieR

July 13th, 2009, 11:32 AM

ahem, ahem, ... kalma lang gamay ... there is such a thing as a healthy
constructive argument or debate.

nothing gained if we elevate this to an emotional angry verbal match ...

i'd like to offer an opinion here ... and i'll start off with the above emphasized
phrases and the fact that ramos was mentioned ...

when we ask "what 'great' things she had done to Cebu?," we need to place
this in comparison with all the other past presidents - marcos, cory, ramos,
and erap (let's not include the pre-marcos presidents). i mean GMA couldn't
have done anything great if the others did, too, right? it's not as if, GMA
was the only president to do something for cebu - i think the others did, too,
in varying degrees. of course, there's no denying that, 1) GMA has a soft
heart for cebu, 2) she was inaugurated here, which placed cebu not only
in the philippine conciousness but in the world map as well. 3) she visits
cebu more often than all the rest of them combined (and i'm not kidding -
GMA frequents cebu so often it's no longer news!), she often does things
for cebu whenever she's here ...

but Henz'es question strikes us in the face, "what 'great' things she had done
to Cebu, .. which are of economic importance that redounds to the lives and
lifestyle of the Cebuanos?" ....... stop, and think deeply of the question.

the answer lies in two points - 1) share of national government budget given
to cebu, and 2) significant economic projects allocated to cebu.

you try to research back on national government expenditure the last 20
years and see how much of the national budget was given to cebu. ayaw
na lang i-apil sa time ni marcos kay gamay ra man jud to! so the proper
question to ask is, was there a remarkable increase in national government
spending under GMA for cebu? whether you like it or not, GMA is the pres.
and whatever she does to cebu as president shall be in the form of a national
government expenditure and done through agency budgets. ang-ang man
personal money iyang gi gamit.

so the correct question to ask, if we are to determine if GMA did more to
cebu (than the previous presidents) is, did cebu get any increase budget
during her term?

the answer is no. same as cory, ramos, and erap's terms, the bulk of nat'l.
government spending was concentrated on metro-manila (NCR), region 3
and region 4. this is not a whining complaint. this is a statement of fact.
though we can't deny that cebu had been GMA's favorite from the very
start - and that's based on logic - first, because we gave her a 1,000,000
majority, and second, because she gets less opposition here. in fact, some
of us in government often quip, that GMA comes to cebu very often in order
to escape the pressure in manila where she gets battered left and right -
so she runs to cebu to cool off and recuperate. in return she give cebu
special favors. and we should not take that from her - we should thank
her for all she's done.

but to go back to the question, ""what 'great' things she had done to Cebu,
.. which are of economic importance that redounds to the lives and lifestyle
of the Cebuanos?," i'm afraid the answer is not much over what previous
presidents have done. if you want to verify this, just look at the national
budget and the cebu allocation for the past 20 years.

The city is lucky to have you there...:cheers:

It's really good to see Mayor Tom again (at least in photos). He looks healthy now. :okay: and boy that BRT would look really really good in Cebu's streets! :cheers2:

I was moved by these photos, seeing a mayor recovering from an illness and yet, he still has this BRT in mind...

bitaw... we cant do nothing about it na.. honestly i am really whining..

just imagine lang.. what will be Cebu pa.. if she had poured money for Cebu through projects with long term economic impact.. maski ang Cebu LRT na lang unta or the renovation/expansion of the Mactan International Airport...

I understand how you feel...this is not the first time I heard about the seemingly unequal distribution or allocation of funds i.e. LRT/MRT

^^Let's go Federal? :? this comes into my mind, but I dunno how huge the impact/difference would be. I see more progress when we're independent or something. :)

I support federalism.

I am for federalism, too. Look at Brazil, our neighbor Malaysia, etc.

Sleepwalker

July 13th, 2009, 11:38 AM

I was moved by these photos, seeing a mayor recovering from an illness and yet, he still has this BRT in mind...

That's an Osmena, fighter to the last drop..We are lucky, we have Osmenas... :)

diehardbisdak

July 13th, 2009, 11:53 AM

^^ parang leisure trip din yan para maka-relax siya...

bakasaurus

July 13th, 2009, 12:04 PM

Whoa, the air has cleared here? Dili na lang ko mupitch in sa ako arguments pod hahaha. Thanks for the enlgihtening post manoy Zid.

And again, just a plea na when we argue, wala lang namecalling. No attacks on the attributes of the poster. Just attack the argument.

But yeah, Go Cebu!

The way I look at it, the national budget is parceled according to the proportion of contribution to GNP of each region.
And the situation that Cebu is in, or has been for a long time, is not entirely bad. This I say at my best, but I sometimes fall into whining, hehe. But yes, Cebu will succeed not because we are doted on and a big chunk of the national budget will be doled out to us without any fuss, but we will succeed because we will work our way up. We will not be like spoiled children of the national government, waiting for our asses to be pampered. We will work hard, and we will be fueled further by our Cebuano pride. So that every stride towards success will be worth it. We will earn it with our perseverance and our wit, and we will make ourselves worthy of our own success.
With every little victory and improvement, we further strengthen our pride in being a Cebuano and Filipino.

Dili ba mas tam-is ang pagkab-ot sa atong mga tinguha ug mga damgo sa ingon ining paagi?

SleMarKen

July 13th, 2009, 12:19 PM

it really hurts when we think that we only get a mumho of the national budget but it's because Manila needs more coz about 1/4 of the population is concentrated in MManila. So if mManila and Cebu will have an equal share of the budget, it's totally unfair for our capital which has around 18M in population compared to Cebu's 4M.

But for me, I'll go for an equal share for each major centers coz it will be the start of decentralization. If those squatters in Tondo knows about the fast progress of Cebu, Davao, Iloilo, CDO etc. they will proceed to those places that will already be in need of human resource coz of its fast development. Mura ra sag Federal ba...hehe

jsl_bxu1206

July 13th, 2009, 12:20 PM

P20B revenues for Cebu province, not allies
First Posted 14:11:00 07/13/2009

BARELY two days after delivering her State of the Province Address (SOPA), Cebu Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia was criticized by former Sen. John Henry Osmeña for supposedly prioritizing the generation of revenues over providing basic services to Cebu province.

“The P20 billion fund she claimed to have built up is P20 billion worth of services denied to two and a half million people in over a thousand barangays. Government exists to serve the people, not to function as a profit-motivated bank,” said Osmeña.

In a statement sent to media outlets, Osmeña said the amount could have been used to improve and maintain district hospitals and other infrastructure, provide employment to the jobless and environmental protection and development for farmers and fisherfolks.

By failing to address the specific needs of its constituents, Osmeña said the revenues generated by the province were used to entice “obedience” from Garcia's allies.

“(It should not be) dangled as bait to ensure obedience among the political underlings nor waved about as a trophy in a one-upsmanship contest with neighboring provinces,” said Osmeña, cousin of Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña.

In response, Capitol Consultant Rory Jon Sepulveda said Osmena is simply ignorant of the developments in the province.

“Politika ra man gyud ning ilaha. (Osmena's group only wanted to politicize everything). Cebu now is not just about beaches but the entire island of Cebu,” Sepulveda told .

Sepulveda said the province built three municipal hospitals in Balamban, Carcar and Danao City. The district hospitals, he said, are operating and serving the public.

“The province is doing not one-over-the-other. We are constructing infrastructures like the Cebu International Convention Center not to the detriment of the roads,” he said.

Sepulveda said the province knows how to utilize the assets of the province in order to serve people more.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20090713-215235/P20B-revenues-for-Cebu-province-not-allies

leviaragon

July 13th, 2009, 12:27 PM

Para makita ang katag!!!

Sige na lang ta og dawat ani og mumho?
yes, it's sad but it's true.:ohno:
sobra lang jud intawon ang madawat nato diri,
pero atleast naay gamay, ang makalolooy ang ubang mga lugar which are outside NCR.

jsl_bxu1206

July 13th, 2009, 12:48 PM

More Sino tourists expected in Cebu
First Posted 11:25:00 07/13/2009

Cebu is opening its doors to more Chinese tourists with the inaugural flight of China Southern Airlines from Guangzhou city last June 9.

This development marks another step for the further growth of Cebu's tourism industry as well as its neighboring province of Bohol, said Department of Tourism undersecretary Phineas Alburo.

“When you have these number of tourists coming in to Cebu every week, how much will this contribute to the local economy? This is truly positive for us and we hope to establish more partnerships with other cities in the future,” he said.

DOT hosted the welcome luncheon for the first 130 Chinese tourists at the Laguna Garden Cafe in Ayala Center on Friday.

DOT has partnered with GZL International Travel Services, a Guangzhou-based travel agency, in carrying out the chartered flight agreement.

The agreement will run until December 2009, after which, Alburo said they will be looking into the possibility of opening chartered flights with other cities or renew the agreement.

There will be two weekly flights going to Cebu every Monday and Thursday. Return flights to Guangzhou are scheduled every Tuesday and Friday.

“We are expecting 300 tourists to come every week with these chartered flights,” he told Cebu Daily News in interview.

Alburo said the direct flight from Guangzhou to Cebu is less than four hours with no stopovers.

Sarah Choi Siu Ha, DOT market representative and assistant project manager for Hong Kong, Macau and South China, said these tourists have heard about Cebu's beaches and rich natural resources and are interested to experience the “sand, sea and sun” of the province.

“Philippines as a tourism destination is included in the top ten hit countries among browsers of the leading Chinese internet portal, Baidu,” the DOT said in a statement furnished to CDN.

Guangzhou is the capital city of Guangdong province with about the same population as the Philippines at nearly 90 million.

While there are beaches in Guangdong, she said, Guangzhou is a landlocked city so residents are “excited to experience island-hopping and snorkeling” in Cebu and Bohol.

The 130 tourists are billeted at the Waterfront Cebu City Hotel in the next five days. Most of these tourists are first-time travelers to the Philippines.

Alburo said these tourists travel with families with the head of the family working in a top position for a manufacturing company or an information and communication technology firm.

More than 65 of these tourists left for Bohol yesterday for a two-day tour and will be back in Cebu on Monday before leaving for Guangzhou next week, said Choi Siu Ha.

Alburo said DOT is engaged in a joint promotion program with GZL Travel Services. This enabled DOT to penetrate Guangzhou, which has 10 to 12 million population.

“It's a win-win agreement because if you partner with a big travel agency like this they will really go out of their way to do business with the department.”

“We give them the materials and some funds and they push the promotion of our destinations in their brochures and leaflets,” added Alburo.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/enterprise/view/20090713-215218/More-Sino-tourists-expected-in-Cebu

weewit

July 13th, 2009, 01:17 PM

pero as far as contribution to the cebu economy and what it is now, i
honestly think its the private sector and the cebuanos in general who made
this happen. GMA's main projects remain concentrated in the north rail, the
subic and clark areas, the expressways in luzon, the LRTs/MRTs in metro
manila, and the like. cge na lang. let's do what we can. ang ako lang,
basta lang matagaan ta'g gamay'ng pag-tagad, ug unta ang BRT magahinan
ug gamay'ng budget puhon, ok na ko, he he he

Sir Zid, since i heard that Manila too is pushing BRT, basing masmatagaan pa og prioridad ang ilang project. as usual.. tanan nalang.. :(

BULLDOG

July 13th, 2009, 01:49 PM

I support federalism.

me too.......go for federalism for brighter tomorrow :cheers::cheers::cheers:

BULLDOG

July 13th, 2009, 01:52 PM

^^ parang leisure trip din yan para maka-relax siya...

let's pray for tomas recovery.........cebu needs like him :):)

mwg12a

July 13th, 2009, 01:54 PM

IMO supportive ang mga private sector tungod kay grabe ang promotion ni gloria ini, but i'm worried what happen to cebu f dili na c gloria ang president:ohno:..
basig ma neglected nasad ta.

I think after Gloria, Cebu would still be flourish because it is already there and many foreign investors had recognized the potential in this area. Whatever the private sectors would wish for, that is what the next administration would probably focus on. Cebu has already established it's footing, it is hard to lose it's equilibrium with the private business sectors.

habagatcentral1

July 13th, 2009, 01:58 PM

@Sir Paul. Kaila mo ni Atty.Sisinio Andales?

demented_pigeon

July 13th, 2009, 02:23 PM

ahem, ahem, ... kalma lang gamay ... there is such a thing as a healthy
constructive argument or debate.

nothing gained if we elevate this to an emotional angry verbal match ...

i'd like to offer an opinion here ... and i'll start off with the above emphasized
phrases and the fact that ramos was mentioned ...

when we ask "what 'great' things she had done to Cebu?," we need to place
this in comparison with all the other past presidents - marcos, cory, ramos,
and erap (let's not include the pre-marcos presidents). i mean GMA couldn't
have done anything great if the others did, too, right? it's not as if, GMA
was the only president to do something for cebu - i think the others did, too,
in varying degrees. of course, there's no denying that, 1) GMA has a soft
heart for cebu, 2) she was inaugurated here, which placed cebu not only
in the philippine conciousness but in the world map as well. 3) she visits
cebu more often than all the rest of them combined (and i'm not kidding -
GMA frequents cebu so often it's no longer news!), she often does things
for cebu whenever she's here ...

but Henz'es question strikes us in the face, "what 'great' things she had done
to Cebu, .. which are of economic importance that redounds to the lives and
lifestyle of the Cebuanos?" ....... stop, and think deeply of the question.

the answer lies in two points - 1) share of national government budget given
to cebu, and 2) significant economic projects allocated to cebu.

you try to research back on national government expenditure the last 20
years and see how much of the national budget was given to cebu. ayaw
na lang i-apil sa time ni marcos kay gamay ra man jud to! so the proper
question to ask is, was there a remarkable increase in national government
spending under GMA for cebu? whether you like it or not, GMA is the pres.
and whatever she does to cebu as president shall be in the form of a national
government expenditure and done through agency budgets. ang-ang man
personal money iyang gi gamit.

so the correct question to ask, if we are to determine if GMA did more to
cebu (than the previous presidents) is, did cebu get any increase budget
during her term?

the answer is no. same as cory, ramos, and erap's terms, the bulk of nat'l.
government spending was concentrated on metro-manila (NCR), region 3
and region 4. this is not a whining complaint. this is a statement of fact.
though we can't deny that cebu had been GMA's favorite from the very
start - and that's based on logic - first, because we gave her a 1,000,000
majority, and second, because she gets less opposition here. in fact, some
of us in government often quip, that GMA comes to cebu very often in order
to escape the pressure in manila where she gets battered left and right -
so she runs to cebu to cool off and recuperate. in return she give cebu
special favors. and we should not take that from her - we should thank
her for all she's done.

but to go back to the question, ""what 'great' things she had done to Cebu,
.. which are of economic importance that redounds to the lives and lifestyle
of the Cebuanos?," i'm afraid the answer is not much over what previous
presidents have done. if you want to verify this, just look at the national
budget and the cebu allocation for the past 20 years.

I think this is a better assessment of Cebu's condition. The problem is some people would immediately lump national politics with local politics on the same footing. Sure, a president can focus his/her attention at a certain area but that fails to count that a large part of a locality's success is the local leadership and local citizenry. Take for example the ARMM, during Ramos' term, the national government pumped in billions of pesos in order to spur economic growth in that area. Until now, the results have been less than expected. Going back to Cebu, as I said, the local populace has more of a direct influence in their own affairs than the presidency. So as I said, that whoever the president may be, Cebu would still be what it is today. Also, even if the president would hypothetically be the most effective and yet Cebu would be governed by an inept and backward elite, you won't see the progres you see today.

zidlakan

July 13th, 2009, 03:31 PM

Sir Zid, since i heard that Manila too is pushing BRT, basing masmatagaan pa og prioridad ang ilang project. as usual.. tanan nalang.. :(

that's a big possibility but i think not. and i hope not. requires a bit of
brinkmanship in dealing with manila-based national government but so far, we
have fared well in the past (MCDP 1,2, and 3, 2nd Mandaue-Mactan Bridge,
SRP, coastal road, etc.). i'll tell you sometime later why i believe we can
pull this through as long as we do it right ...

let's pray for tomas recovery.........cebu needs like him :):)

thanks, please do. he's arriving tomorrow, 11:30 A.M.

@Sir Paul. Kaila mo ni Atty.Sisinio Andales?

yup, bgy. captain of pahina central and one of the VP of the ABC ...

AmbutLang

July 13th, 2009, 03:52 PM

^^ change topic na: FOOD TRIPPING...mingaw na gyud ako ani...wala gyud ni diri KSA!

flickr pics by @annalyn
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3485/3713396662_4b061805a7_m.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3437/3712592649_3c30e20ddf_m.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2447/3712591393_0b49cd9a3d_m.jpg

Mamoy mangud na bai. :lol: Manik or karniro pana, na! habhabon gyud na wa'y tihiktihik. Unya waa pagyuy :cheers: tubig or soft drinks lang. :) Uli sa kadiyut oi, kapin usa katuig waa kamag picturepicture dri. :)

I go for federal style of government kay dili mumho or kihkih ang ihatag. At least 40% will come back to Cebu Economy.

Wind Shear

July 13th, 2009, 03:58 PM

I go for federal style of government kay dili mumho or kihkih ang ihatag. At least 40% will come back to Cebu Economy.

I prefer 70% of federal coffers goes to the provinces.

I prefer the taxes and customs in Cebu like this: 70% goes to Cebu and 30% goes to Federal Government.

Ang_Bantayanon

July 13th, 2009, 04:01 PM

The good news just never stops for Cebu.
I guess with the continued perseverance and resiliency
of the Cebuanos, even without much aid from the national government,
Cebu has no other way but higher and greater.

Padayon Sugbu! Sirit! Lupad!

SineBuano

July 13th, 2009, 04:22 PM

Payter...hala sige padayon ta sa pag-ugmad.

Sinjin P.

July 13th, 2009, 04:46 PM

By the way, wala na lagi ang CNT Restaurant atbang sa SM??

mi.hyul

July 13th, 2009, 04:49 PM

^^^^
they transferred. now, they are at the back of pc express. with the yellow/red facade. you won't get lost. cnt signage can be seen.

Zuburbia

July 13th, 2009, 04:58 PM

^^I mean "healthier" diay compared to when he was bald. hehe. but evidently he lost too much weight na. hopefully he's on his way to full recovery.

sakto raman nang lawasa, delikado og motambok napod siya basin ang highblood napod...heheeh wa pa lang ta naanad nga gamay2x og tiyan si mayor tom...happy to see him doing good...:banana:

Sleepwalker

July 13th, 2009, 05:31 PM

Gwapa na gud pwera buyag ang Cebu Cathedral... :banana:

flickr photo by EricRP
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/3716286503_e0c83b8458.jpg

diehardbisdak

July 13th, 2009, 07:14 PM

federalist

July 13th, 2009, 07:58 PM

Gov. Gwen to former Senator Sonny Osmeña:

“Si Sonny? Tse na lang, manash. S ka lang huwag mong masyadong dibdibin ‘day, remember mga wrinkles, kadiri. Mao ra to!”

:lol: :rofl: :lol:

more of this news: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=486617&publicationSubCategoryId=107

:lol: nag-abot ang puros igat. :lol:

diehardbisdak

July 13th, 2009, 08:13 PM

^^ unbecoming kaayo bai...puros gyud ka-cheapan atong gobernadora...wala ko mag expect mo-comment sya ana in that way...she should have taken the cricism of Sonny constructively bisan pa og dili maayo pagkahatag ni Sonny sa iyang comment...very unprofessional gyud...makawala og respeto sa iyaha...ma-kumpara man nimo sa usa ka "burik*t" ang iyang komento...

federalist

July 13th, 2009, 08:34 PM

kana maoy saktong gobernor bai. :lol:

2 ra baya na sila nga artista. 1) Governor Vilma Santos 2) Governor Gwen Garci:nuts:

skyscraper100

July 13th, 2009, 08:40 PM

IMO, "Cebu: second to none".. is the height of highhandedness and arrogance.. I prefer the Queen City of the South...

we know that Philippines is a beautiful country with beautiful cities..
ILOILO,DAVAO,CEBU,MANILA,ILOCOS is beautiful WE should be proud of our country not just where we from... parang watak watak ang dating eh..
if cebu would have alot of improvement to fight corruption and poverty.. having more middle class residents,help neglect people..help its farmers.. more foreign investors,more tourist arrival.. well thats great to our country and people from around the phil. would be happy for you guys..
pilipino tayo lahat.cebuano,tagalog,ilocano..

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 14th, 2009, 03:39 AM

I think this is a better assessment of Cebu's condition. The problem is some people would immediately lump national politics with local politics on the same footing. Sure, a president can focus his/her attention at a certain area but that fails to count that a large part of a locality's success is the local leadership and local citizenry. Take for example the ARMM, during Ramos' term, the national government pumped in billions of pesos in order to spur economic growth in that area. Until now, the results have been less than expected. Going back to Cebu, as I said, the local populace has more of a direct influence in their own affairs than the presidency. So as I said, that whoever the president may be, Cebu would still be what it is today. Also, even if the president would hypothetically be the most effective and yet Cebu would be governed by an inept and backward elite, you won't see the progres you see today.

maskin kinsa pa na ang mapresidente, nakubalaan na ang mga cebuanos ana. who ever he/she is, maayo lang na sila manganhi dinhi para magpakaluoy sa kadaghang bisaya pero in the end, adto ra tanan ibubo ang kadaghanan sa kwarta didto sa manila ug luzon w/c defeats the purpose of decentralization by the government. ari na lang mis among mayor! everytime naay problema sa manila, kung dili masulbad sa ilang mayor adto dayon sa presidente ug kung dili masulbad sa presidente, intrigahon dayon! diri sa ato, kung naay problema, mayor mayor mayor, tanan mayor! tanan ang mayor manubag!

Sir Zid, since i heard that Manila too is pushing BRT, basing masmatagaan pa og prioridad ang ilang project. as usual.. tanan nalang.. :(

i hope dili sila ang maguna! ang masuya loser! dapat kita maoy maguna! sige lang na sila! NEVER! :bash::lol::lol::nuts:

sugbuanon

July 14th, 2009, 04:03 AM

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Sleepwalker

July 14th, 2009, 04:06 AM

^^ Yeeeee-haaaa!!! More exciting projects to come... :banana:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 14th, 2009, 04:08 AM

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waaaaaaaaa!!!!! Nadiscover na ni bai @sugbuanon ang Dicovery Bay! :applause:

wow! thanks bai! mao na gyud ni ang final rendering? AMAZING! :cheers:

AmbutLang

July 14th, 2009, 04:10 AM

Kinsa gali edusar ni PGMA sa sunod president tandua dayun unya pangayui mga budgets para infrastructure project unya enig election, unya butar ug lain kai promise manlang na sila hapit na ang election.:ohno: Mag federal system after the election. :)

marxman

July 14th, 2009, 04:50 AM

i think nag.implement na ug BRT ang metro manila. ive seen some on edsa it says "Bus Rapid Transit". they have fenced slots(unloading and loading) for Bus.

habagatcentral1

July 14th, 2009, 05:00 AM

i think nag.implement na ug BRT ang metro manila. ive seen some on edsa it says "Bus Rapid Transit". they have fenced slots(unloading and loading) for Bus.

They're only rapid when it's night time (so rapid, you have an instant roller coaster ride at EDSA)...on daytime, its.......nevermind...:lol:

Henz

July 14th, 2009, 05:06 AM

so rapid.. maingon ani ta ay..:nuts::nuts::nuts:

marxman

July 14th, 2009, 05:07 AM

hahay! sa akong workstation naay jud nakabutang "Federal State of Cebu"... kanus.a kha ni mahitabo... maayo unta naa pko diri sa pilipinas ana...

Lord!!! santo nino, God, Mama mary and tanang mga santos!!! c kinsa pa na dira na angay ampuan. kanus.a intawn ninyo dunggon akong mga pag.ampo!!!!

hehehe!

leviaragon

July 14th, 2009, 07:38 AM

Sleepwalker

July 14th, 2009, 07:43 AM

Nag-drought og mga pictures ang atong thread...Wa na kaayo ko makit-an na pang SSC nga mga photos from flickr...Paabot na lang ta ani sa mga SSC kodaker (jarenz, Slemarken, rustyboi, federalist, aterisky ug uban pa) ug ni master @diehardbisdak

habagatcentral1

July 14th, 2009, 07:44 AM

Pagkuha og pix na...:D

Sleepwalker

July 14th, 2009, 07:53 AM

Newly renovated Sto. Rosario Church
flickr photo from Cebu City

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Revisiting Magellan's Cross
flickr photo from Cebu City

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SRP Highway
flickr photo from Cebu City

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The Faithfuls at Basilica Sto. Nino de Cebu
flickr photo from Cebu City

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leylander

July 14th, 2009, 07:54 AM

ipost ko ni ha. kato ning bridge sa balamban. hehe.

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Sleepwalker

July 14th, 2009, 07:56 AM

Bai @ley, mawala na gud ang Larsian for sure? :ohno:

habagatcentral1

July 14th, 2009, 07:56 AM

La lang...still making halukay of my photos from the past.

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Buhi pa ni sya?
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habagatcentral1

July 14th, 2009, 08:02 AM

Missing CebuDoc University
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Skyline from Nivel Hills
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Cebu Business Park
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leylander

July 14th, 2009, 08:03 AM

Smile sa mo be:

from pagchur.com

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leylander

July 14th, 2009, 08:03 AM

Bai @ley, mawala na gud ang Larsian for sure? :ohno:

sure na man daw. hehehe.

habagatcentral1

July 14th, 2009, 08:04 AM

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I wish I have the latest pix. All I have are some old pictures from 2006-2007.

Sleepwalker

July 14th, 2009, 08:06 AM

sure na man daw. hehehe.

I hope, makabalik ko sa Cebu sa di pa ma-close ang Larsian...Magpa-picture ko, before mawala ang larsian... Kagool baya ani oi.

habagatcentral1

July 14th, 2009, 08:08 AM

Bai @ley, mawala na gud ang Larsian for sure? :ohno:

sure na man daw. hehehe.
So it's goodbye memories...:(

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leylander

July 14th, 2009, 08:29 AM

I hope, makabalik ko sa Cebu sa di pa ma-close ang Larsian...Magpa-picture ko, before mawala ang larsian... Kagool baya ani oi.

unsaon na lang ang memories sa imong first uyab. hehe

BULLDOG

July 14th, 2009, 08:29 AM

BULLDOG

July 14th, 2009, 08:37 AM

So it's goodbye memories...:(

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inig gawas nimo gikan diri manimahu gyud ka ug anuhos.......:lol::lol::lol: unya daghan pa gyud mga bata mga samukan mo kalit lang kanta sa imong luyo whole tear round pasko....:bash::bash::bash:

ofw_cebu

July 14th, 2009, 09:02 AM

Larsian - December 2008

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mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 14th, 2009, 09:08 AM

i think nag.implement na ug BRT ang metro manila. ive seen some on edsa it says "Bus Rapid Transit". they have fenced slots(unloading and loading) for Bus.

da! nagdamgo ra na si BF sa BRT uy! from the looks of it layo ra kaayo ang metro buses sa tinuoray na BRT! and BRTs are environment friendly and not otherwise. BRTs are owned by the government while those buses there are privately owned just like jeepneys! :bash:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 14th, 2009, 10:25 AM

Clean up voters’ list in Cebu: Erap
By Elias O. Baquero
Sun Star Cebu Daily
Tuesday, July 14, 2009

FORMER President Joseph Estrada yesterday urged the media and civic groups to be active in cleaning up voters’ lists in Cebu, which were allegedly padded by more than 500,000 votes allegedly in favor of President Arroyo in 2004.

Estrada said Arroyo won over Fernando Poe Jr. (FPJ) by one million votes because of this padding.

Estrada said Arroyo and her political allies in Cebu easily cheated FPJ with bloated voters’ lists because the late actor had no local candidates, hence, no watchers to protect the votes for him.

He didn’t mention names, but Estrada said those who cheated FPJ in favor of Arroyo are Lakas-Kampi leaders.

Former Senator Ernesto Maceda, the campaign manager of the United Opposition (Uno) said the padding in Cebu were documented by the University of the Philippines in Diliman, Quezon City.

He said that his wife, Marichu Maceda, has the evidence of the padding which she got from UP-Diliman. The former senator said that he will ask Marichu to show the copy of the UP-Diliman study to the public.

“The principal reason of the padding of the voters’ lists was to bring down FPJ’s lead of two millions votes over Arroyo in the initial nationwide counts. Arroyo’s allies took advantage that FPJ had no local candidates in Cebu,” Maceda said.

According to Maceda, had FPJ not died and the election protest continued until resolved, the evidence of the alleged padding in Cebu would have been uncovered.

Maceda said Cebu media and civic groups can pressure to Comelec to clean the voters lists.

Maceda said that in Manila, ABS-CBN, GMA, and the Philippine Daily Inquirer are involved in promoting clean and honest elections.

“I am sure the Cebu media can do it also,” Maceda said.

In the same forum, lawyer Koko Pimentel, who has a pending election protest against Sen. Jose Miguel Zubiri, said they are against poll automation because it is questionable.

Pimentel recalled that he was leading over Zubiri by 120,000 votes in the initial nationwide count, but his opponents reversed the results when the votes from a small province in Mindanao were counted.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/clean-voters’-list-cebu-erap

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hmmm, wala ka mabuang ERAP?! it's like you have dampened the intelligence of Cebuano voters by accusing us of cheating and vote padding? PATHETIC SCHOOL DROP-OUT!:bash::bash::nuts:

inana lang gyud siguro ni siya kabilib sa iyang kaugalingon na tanan taw sa pilipinas ganahan kaayo niya.

otro pud ni siya! maayo na lang kay si GMA nakadaog kay at least love kaayo ni ang CEBU di parehas aning iyang mga itoy na suyaon kaayo sa CEBU esp. that ugly negra mayor! SA MAKATI, HINDI KAMI MAKATI-IS SA SOBRANG INGGIT SA CEBU!:bash::lol::D

BAGA'G FACE!:bash::lol::D:nuts:

habagatcentral1

July 14th, 2009, 10:27 AM

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hmmm, wala ka mabuang ERAP?! it's like you have dampened the intelligence of Cebuano voters by accusing us of cheating and vote padding?

inana lang gyud siguro ni siya kabilib sa iyang kaugalingon na tanan taw sa pilipinas ganahan kaayo niya.

otro pud ni siya! maayo na lang kay si GMA nakadaog kay at least love kaayo ni ang CEBU di parehas aning iyang mga itoy na suyaon kaayo sa CEBU esp. that negro mayor! SA MAKATI, MAKATI lahat KAMI! :bash::bash::lol:

BAGA'G FACE! :bash::bash::lol::lol::nuts::D

Now that's what you call BITTER. Si Erap, BITTER kaayo.....:lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 14th, 2009, 10:36 AM

reancorbz84

July 14th, 2009, 10:38 AM

baga gyud xa kaau.. ang kalain ana kay daghan tao nga mutuo sa iya. lalu na ang masa.... pailad pod tawon...

BULLDOG

July 14th, 2009, 10:47 AM

Si ERAP ang pinaka baga ug NAWONG........ convicted KAWATAN na magmamalinis pa gihapon :bash::bash::bash::bash:

Sleepwalker

July 14th, 2009, 10:50 AM

Erap is pathetic dirty old man...:ohno:

Nightshot of University of San Carlos-Main Campus
flickr photo by human_factor

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Henz

July 14th, 2009, 11:04 AM

I believe there is Cheating that happened during the previous presidential elections in the country...

But i also believe, that GMA won fair and square in Cebu, since before the elections, pro GMA talaga ang mga Cebuano, as in ibutang nato 70-80%.. So it is not fair to say na FPJ was cheated in Cebu.. No i dont think so. I hope the opposition should stop using that propaganda kay ila lang gi alienate ang ilang ranks sa Cebuano voting populace..
While Cebu voted for GMA, since we see her as lesser evil being an intellectual candidate during that time, Cebuano are not blind followers neither. Kaya, swerte lang if naa pa sya 20% if molansar sya ug balik like ni Erap ( if he wished so).

If i were the opposition, i would think of strategic propoganda to win the Cebuanos rather than to be bitter about the previous debacle they experienced in Cebu. They should start looking for a candidate who maybe acceptable to Cebuano leaders and to Cebuanos generally.

My advise, try to look for a fresh,development oriented, intellectual and non traditional candidate... in that way.. you will win the Cebuanos following...

Just my 2 cents..

habagatcentral1

July 14th, 2009, 11:07 AM

^^ Actually, what Erap did was alienating a vote rich province. If he says more, his "manok" will be dedma in Cebu. Sala iya nga gisulti, sala iya marketing sa iya manok...good luck sa iya....he just lost a big chunk of votes. :lol:

By the way, the last elections, kinsa ang gi-endorse ni Erap for Sugbo?

Henz

July 14th, 2009, 11:16 AM

He might had candidates.. but i dont know if may nag daog bah.. Honestly, i was so disgusted by the political system na, that during the last elections i did not care to vote...

But i realized even with one vote. we can make a difference gihapon... although the feeling of hopelessness is still there but at least i am fighting it... i hope with my one vote next elections we will now be able to have good leaders who value the people more than its own interests...

jsl_bxu1206

July 14th, 2009, 11:54 AM

No transport strike in Cebu
Tuesday, July 14, 2009

CEBU CITY – Transport groups in Cebu did no participate in the nationwide transport strike yesterday but showed their protest against the three major oil companies in the country by conducting a protest march towards the Land Transportation Office (LTO) 7.

Hundreds of members of the Nagkahiusang Drayber sa Sugbo (Nadsu) trooped to the LTO 7 office at 9 a.m. in support of the nationwide transport strike organized by Pinagkaisang Samahan ng Tsuper at Opereytor Nationwide (Piston)

Nadsu Chair Ruben Rama said the transport groups have been calling on the major oil companies to roll back their pump prices, saying the cost of oil in the world market has been declining.

Rama is also calling on drivers and commuters to boycott the products of the three major oil companies so they can feel the sentiments of the public.

The strike staged by various transport groups in Metro Manila yesterday was hardly felt by passengers, except for some motorists who got irked by the heavy traffic caused by protesters.

The strike is in protest of the continuous increase in the prices of fuel products by local oil players, particularly the three largest firms Petron, Chevron and Pilipinas Shell Corporation.

Simultaneous transport stoppages were also be held in Southern Tagalog, Baguio, Panay and Guimaras islands, Davao, General Santos City, Cagayan De Oro, and Legazpi, although as of yesterday afternoon authorities said the transport strike fails to cripple the transport system of the mentioned areas.

Earlier, leaders of public transport groups in Cebu have discussed the series of oil price increases and the possibility of filing a petition for another fare increase.

Ryan Benjamin Yu, chairman of the Cebu Integrated Transport Cooperative (Citrasco), the biggest transport group in Cebu, told Manila Bulletin that the transport leaders are well aware of the series of oil price increase in the past days and have been receiving clamors from operators and drivers for a fare increase.

“We are meeting to discuss a possible and immediate action,” said Yu.

LTFRB Director Romulo Bernardez said Citrasco leaders have approached him on their proposal for a fare increase but he urged the group to defer it for the moment due to the opening of classes.

“Citrasco has asked me if puwede na sila mag petition but I urged them not to disturb the peace during the opening of classes,” Bernardez said.

If the series of fuel price increase will not stop, Bernardez said the transport groups will be forced to file the petition for another round of fare increase.

http://www.cebuonlinenews.com/20090713/992431-no-transport-strike-in-cebu/

SleMarKen

July 14th, 2009, 12:38 PM

Pagkadungog nako sa balita nga molansar balik si Erap? I felt very sad specially nga ang Cebu ang una niyang gi bisita og gi binuangan but ofcourse bisag unsaon pa niyag sulti nga kung makadaog siya iyang himoog balik pagka syudad ang Naga og Carcar, di gihapon niya malingla ang Sugbuanon.
Abi niya ig mo ingon siya nga gi cheat si FPJ diri sa Cebu, maluoy niya ang mga Sugbuanon? Bisag moluhod pa siya, baga gihapon siyag nawng, kriminal gihapon siya para sa mga Cebuanos...

Maypa si Mayor Tom, gi interview pag abot niya ganiha, cool ra kaayo trabaho gihapon gihuna huna...:okay:

bakasaurus

July 14th, 2009, 01:00 PM

Hahaha. What a very wrong move Erap! I am more convinced now that I did the right thing when I went to the streets to join the crowd that cried to impeach you back in my uni days. I did not vote for Gloria, samot na for FPJ. I actually voted Roco (who I still think deserved the top position, God bless his soul). But I think dili unbelievable ang lead ni Gloria over kang FPJ sa Cebu. I think that was a smart move from Gloria because she, using the press and surveys, manipulated the people into believing it was all between her and FPJ (which I thought was a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea, and I chose none), and the Cebuanos got scared that FPJ would win, so Cebuanos rallied behind the "lesser evil" to make sure FPJ wouldn't win. And that's it. Pastilan si Erap nagtuo gyud cya nga giganahan ta ni FPJ.

jsl_bxu1206

July 14th, 2009, 02:16 PM

as an actor, we love FPJ but as a president, NO!

Hahaha. What a very wrong move Erap! I am more convinced now that I did the right thing when I went to the streets to join the crowd that cried to impeach you back in my uni days. I did not vote for Gloria, samot na for FPJ. I actually voted Roco (who I still think deserved the top position, God bless his soul). But I think dili unbelievable ang lead ni Gloria over kang FPJ sa Cebu. I think that was a smart move from Gloria because she, using the press and surveys, manipulated the people into believing it was all between her and FPJ (which I thought was a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea, and I chose none), and the Cebuanos got scared that FPJ would win, so Cebuanos rallied behind the "lesser evil" to make sure FPJ wouldn't win. And that's it. Pastilan si Erap nagtuo gyud cya nga giganahan ta ni FPJ.

Jarenz

July 14th, 2009, 02:28 PM

Erap ... may rest in peace!

jsl_bxu1206

July 14th, 2009, 02:40 PM

Buhi pa si erap wui.

Erap ... may rest in peace!

AmbutLang

July 14th, 2009, 03:40 PM

Sa Presidente pa si ERAP, inig abut niya sa Cebu via presidential ship Pangulo adunay lechon de liche gahuwat niya kay duha man iyan makaon unya magsugal dayon. Waa pagyud maigo sa stroke. :ohno:

demented_pigeon

July 14th, 2009, 04:58 PM

paita sab, si FPJ nga mas buutan ni Erap pero dili angay mapresidente mas una pa nga namatay kang Erap. Ang gisugo ang giuna kaysa sa nagsugo.

bakasaurus

July 14th, 2009, 05:09 PM

paita sab, si FPJ nga mas buutan ni Erap pero dili angay mapresidente mas una pa nga namatay kang Erap. Ang gisugo ang giuna kaysa sa nagsugo.

Kamo ba, masamang damo matagal mamatay lagi..hehehe.
Mao nang mag minaldito na lang ta.

zidlakan

July 14th, 2009, 05:16 PM

da! nagdamgo ra na si BF sa BRT uy! from the looks of it layo ra kaayo ang metro buses sa tinuoray na BRT! and BRTs are environment friendly and not otherwise. BRTs are owned by the government while those buses there are privately owned just like jeepneys! :bash:

sa lighter side lang ha ... some friends in manila quipped that the "BRT"
written on the curbs in EDSA does not stand for bus rapid transit ... it means
"B _ _ _ _ _ Rapid Transit" daw, he he he ... daghan jud kontra si bayani bisan
sa manila ...

another anecdote ... no offense meant, i just heard it from another friend in
manila - 5 manila mayors and BF went to bogota, columbia last year to see the
TransMilenio ... when they got back, bayani daw told everybody - sayop ang
BRT sa bogota! ...... toinks!

SleMarKen

July 14th, 2009, 05:22 PM

CDU
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2738/cdu1st.jpg

North Rec. Area (Cebu City), New Mandaue City
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diehardbisdak

July 14th, 2009, 05:25 PM

^^ view from SM Northwing carpark...

leviaragon

July 14th, 2009, 05:31 PM

I hope, makabalik ko sa Cebu sa di pa ma-close ang Larsian...Magpa-picture ko, before mawala ang larsian... Kagool baya ani oi.

nganong i close man ang larsian?

Wind Shear

July 14th, 2009, 06:45 PM

AmbutLang

July 14th, 2009, 07:39 PM

Missing CebuDoc University

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It reminds me of the central lobby of the 6 storeys RDU/ Raleigh-Durham international Airport parking building. :)

BAKLANGCEBU

July 15th, 2009, 12:04 AM

^^

bitter pa salty pa gyud! :lol::lol::nuts:

I hope he never preached this kind of non-sense accusations in the midst of cebuano audience when he recently had an appearance here coz if he actually did, inana na gyud siya ka BAGA'G NAWONG! :bash::bash::lol::nuts:

mahadlok man ko kun mahinayon gyud ug run for president si erap:bash::bash: kahibalo mo sa mga taga manila ug uban bahin sa luzon mga movie fans man na sila:bash::bash:unya tua ra ba didto ang pinakadaghang botante. waaaaaaah kabati na gyud sa atong nasud. :bash::bash::bash:

BAKLANGCEBU

July 15th, 2009, 12:11 AM

korek! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:ang mga gwen talaga uu! pang bold star :bash::bash:

ato na lang pasagdan si gwen oi.at least love man niya ang cebu province kana si sonny puro man sad na panaway sa cebu. taga cebu man kaha na sya unya kontra kaayo niya ang cebu. hayyyy ang mga bhayot talaga. unsa kaha ako na syang kuhaon ug modelo sa ako itukud na salon puhon. ako ang mo make-up niya kanang pang miss gay- ako syang himuon queen of cebu unya si erap pud king of cebu pweeee. :bash::bash::bash::bash:

AmbutLang

July 15th, 2009, 01:39 AM

^^:lol: :rofl:

Jarenz

July 15th, 2009, 02:54 AM

Buhi pa si erap wui.

He's dead for me!

Hiroshima

July 15th, 2009, 03:40 AM

GOOD NEWS!

Tomas back with bus system plan
Sunstar, July 15, 2009

CEBU City Mayor Tomas Osmeña’s two-week trip to the US and Colombia proved fruitful, as he came home with a clean bill of health and ideas for the City’s Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system.

Following a series of tests at the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas last week, Osmeña said he will not need further treatment and surgery.

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But he will have to keep going back to the United States every three months for the next year for periodic CT Scans.

“They have to constantly monitor so they have to do the CT scan, and they don’t like anybody else to do it, they want to do it themselves,” he said.

Except for dark rings under his eyes, the mayor did not appear to be in pain yesterday morning when he and his wife Margot arrived at the Mactan Cebu International Airport. His hair also grew longer, after he shaved it off last December while he was on chemotherapy.

Osmeña, who will turn 61 later this month, was diagnosed with stage four urinary bladder cancer in October last year, but is said to already be cancer-free after a surgery was performed to remove his bladder, prostate and around 40 lymph nodes last April.

In an interview shortly after their arrival, Osmeña said his four-day trip to Bogota City in Colombia was also successful.

He went around Bogota with its former mayor Enrique Peñalosa to observe how the TransMilenio BRT system works, and how it can be adjusted to suit the needs of the Cebu City residents.

The mayor plans to set up a BRT system in the South Road Properties (SRP) and other parts of the city, which he wants to pattern from the Bogota model.

“Bogota’s BRT is basically like Curritiba’s (Brazil) model but it has variations and it’s got more sophistication to some degree. For Cebu, we have to localize the system and make some adjustments here, but it will be very similar,” said Osmeña.

Earlier, members of the local opposition raised questions regarding the mayor’s health condition, and whether he is physically fit to run for an elective post.

Businessman Jonathan Guardo, the opposition’s candidate for the south district congressional seat, had said that it would be unfair to the constituents if Osmeña runs and wins, and will be unable to serve them because he would have to keep going back to the US for his treatment.

Published in the Sun.Star Cebu newspaper on July 15, 2009.

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AmbutLang

July 15th, 2009, 04:06 AM

demented_pigeon

July 15th, 2009, 04:07 AM

Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 04:20 AM

Company builds comm’l center on factory site (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/company-builds-comm%E2%80%99l-center-factory-site)

A CEBU-BASED developer converted a two-hectare furniture factory on Plaridel St. in Alang-alang, Mandaue City into a commercial complex.

Last month, Vivace Development Corp.—a subsidiary of ECA Holdings Inc.—started the development of Bridges Town Square.

The commercial complex is expected to open in the last quarter of this year. It is designed to become a food and lifestyle destination for residents and tourists.

The site of Bridges used to house the manufacturing operations of two furniture companies-Wicker & Vine Inc. and Ambiente Designs International Inc., also subsidiaries of ECA Holdings Inc. The manufacturing operations of the two furniture companies have been moved to Barangay Tingub, still in Mandaue City.
Eduardo Alegrado, chairman of Vivace Development Corp., said Plaridel Street has become “a busy thoroughfare.”

Heavy traffic

The street currently accommodates traffic leading to the northern towns of Cebu Province, vehicles from Mactan, as well as those from the Cebu northern reclamation area.

Alegrado said the road will be a “vital link” to the north of Cebu via a coastal road linking Mandaue to Liloan town.

“This dramatic developmental change in the makeup of this section of Mandaue has rendered the presence of our factory there somewhat irrelevant, if not impractical.
The changes that have occurred have made our place very viable for commercial exploitation at present time,” explained Alegrado.

Bridges Town Square is the first commercial building venture of Vivace Development Corp., which founded Maribago Blue-water Beach Resort in Lapu-Lapu City.

“We are confident about this new project because product prices are very competitive and the location gives our tenants very good exposure,” Alegrado said.

Diversify

He added that the commercial complex is also a way for the company to diversify into other forms of businesses amid the global financial crisis that has affected the furniture export sector.

Bridges Town Square will have three zones-the “anchor” area featuring the Coconut Grove Seafood Restaurant; a wholesale market called Kumprahan, which is the tourist zone showcasing Cebu products; and the lifestyle row that will be occupied by resto-bars, entertainment, spa and fastfood, among others.
Vivace is eyeing around 50 tenants to fill the commercial complex.

The 700-square-meter Coconut Grove will be established and operated by Vivace Development Corp.

Wholesalers from the Carbon market will occupy the 3,500-square-meter Kumprahan, assuring customers of “Carbon prices at supermarket convenience.”

Upon the completion of Bridges, Vivace plans to look for a potential site for another commercial area with the same concept.

Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 04:30 AM

Escario St. Cebu City
flick photo by dbgg1979

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Maxwell Hotel
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Cebu Grand Regal Hotel
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Golden Peak Hotel
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Mamma Maria's Pizzeria
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Henz

July 15th, 2009, 04:35 AM

sa lighter side lang ha ... some friends in manila quipped that the "BRT"
written on the curbs in EDSA does not stand for bus rapid transit ... it means
"B _ _ _ _ _ Rapid Transit" daw, he he he ... daghan jud kontra si bayani bisan
sa manila ...

another anecdote ... no offense meant, i just heard it from another friend in
manila - 5 manila mayors and BF went to bogota, columbia last year to see the
TransMilenio ... when they got back, bayani daw told everybody - sayop ang
BRT sa bogota! ...... toinks!

In fairness to BF, he actually had a vision for Metro Manila, thats the good thing and he always means what he says.. (well this is not without an exception).

However, he lacks the charisma of a leader and so many other characteristics of a possible leader of the country. If he cannot even unite 11 Metro Manila Mayors, how much more the country.
And besides, he still displays the Trapo attitude especially patronage politics and licking the butt politics. He better go back to the place where he belongs, that is Marikina..

If he doesnt see the beauty of the BRT in Bogota its his own opinion. Basta, kita mga Cebuano we will support the plan of Mayor Osmena for the BRT program and show to them that it will work here...

Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 04:39 AM

Escario St. Cebu City
flick photo by dbgg1979

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Take note on the left side of this photo. The Sidewalk stores are occupying at least 50% of the sidewalks width.

Is this still allowable?

Sidewalk store should not be allowed to eat part of the suppose to be sidewalk path. And if there is a law/ordinance about this, government should implement it strictly.

Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 05:03 AM

ato na lang pasagdan si gwen oi.at least love man niya ang cebu province kana si sonny puro man sad na panaway sa cebu. taga cebu man kaha na sya unya kontra kaayo niya ang cebu. hayyyy ang mga bhayot talaga. unsa kaha ako na syang kuhaon ug modelo sa ako itukud na salon puhon. ako ang mo make-up niya kanang pang miss gay- ako syang himuon queen of cebu unya si erap pud king of cebu pweeee. :bash::bash::bash::bash:

Yep...With Sonny being the brain behind the Sugbuak plans, mora og sakto sakto ra pud ang tubag ni Gwen...Hehehe

Hahay! Except sa kining panagbangi ni Gwen ug Tomas, wala kaayo ko makit-an nga buling sa pagkalider aning duha.

rustyboi

July 15th, 2009, 05:37 AM

^^I'd only say cheap si Gwen kung mu patol siya ni Erap :nuts:

Escario St. Cebu City
flick photo by dbgg1979

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/3720533950_d12944c1e8.jpg

Take note on the left side of this photo. The Sidewalk stores are occupying at least 50% of the sidewalks width.

Is this still allowable?

Sidewalk store should not be allowed to eat part of the suppose to be sidewalk path. And if there is a law/ordinance about this, government should implement it strictly.

there are even sidewalk stores that occupy 100% of the sidewalk path. :ohno: if structures being built "within" the sidewalks is considered illegal, and the responsible gov't agency strictly implements this, our streets would have been much better.

rustyboi

July 15th, 2009, 05:44 AM

Along Sergio Osmena avenue (near Sulpicio Lines and Sugbutel) they partially closed a center island with the sign: Techno-geological investigation on-going.

I can't clearly remember if it was "Techno" or could be something else. Basta geological investigation something (sorry for my poor memory). Does anybody know what this means? :?

Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 06:10 AM

^^I'd only say cheap si Gwen kung mu patol siya ni Erap :nuts:

there are even sidewalk stores that occupy 100% of the sidewalk path. :ohno: if structures being built "within" the sidewalks is considered illegal, and the responsible gov't agency strictly implements this, our streets would have been much better.

I believe so that most of the roads in Cebu were built with sidewalk. It's only a matter on the implementation of the laws/ordinances that will make our streets pedestrian friendly or not.

federalist

July 15th, 2009, 07:19 AM

Si ERAP ang pinaka baga ug NAWONG........ convicted KAWATAN na magmamalinis pa gihapon :bash::bash::bash::bash:
makalagot si Erap, makalagot pud si GMA nganong iyang gipagawas si Erap. pareha ra na sila. maayong pakongon.

Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 07:30 AM

Discovering Cebu
all photos are from flickr (pinoyoutlook)

Guns in Danao

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Lilo (whirpool) and jars from Liloan

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Haladaya Festival in Daanbantayan

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Pathway to Heaven, este, to Daanbantayan Church

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xbraddy

July 15th, 2009, 07:41 AM

sa tinuod lang, wala jud koy gusto iboto this coming election, wala koy ganahan sa ila, labi nana si erap baga kaayo ug ngabil, walay ulaw! nahunahunaan pa niya mu dagan?mayra madagma!!hehe...baga jud kaayo ni si erap! grabeh..

Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 08:00 AM

Discovering Cebu Part 2

If Danao has guns, Balamban has ships

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If Mactan has the beaches, Balamban has the mountains

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Sugarcane farmland, Bogo, Cebu

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Capitancillo Island, Bogo, Cebu
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Road to Bogo, Cebu

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bOrN2BwILd

July 15th, 2009, 08:07 AM

^^@sleepwalker : accessible ning Capitancillo from mainland? pilay may pliti?
thanx :)

Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 08:14 AM

^^@sleepwalker : accessible ning Capitancillo from mainland? pilay may pliti?
thanx :)

For sure, accessible na bai...Pero ang pila plete, wa ko kahibalo...Hmmm, i think, si Bai @Mainstreamhunter, mora og nakaanhi.

bOrN2BwILd

July 15th, 2009, 08:38 AM

^^ukies..thanx for ur quick response ;)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 15th, 2009, 08:46 AM

Nagsamoksamok lang na si Guardo. Muabli pana siya free kitchen para sa mga batang pobre for breakfast sa duol sa ila, basig maka daog patingali na siya. Children going to school hungry do not learn much in the classroom. Kai nagdaguok man ang tiyan. Nang hambug mankaha na siya nga dato. :ohno:

mao gyud! nagpaila lang gyud ni si erap na BOGO gyud! hoy intawon si Guardo pa gyud sa tanang! birds of the same feathers flock together! :lol::bash:

makalagot si Erap, makalagot pud si GMA nganong iyang gipagawas si Erap. pareha ra na sila. maayong pakongon.

KOREK! wrong move of from GMA! si erap karon mura nag kabayo nakabuhi sa turil! :lol::lol::nuts::bash:

concern

July 15th, 2009, 08:55 AM

^^ na preso na si erap tungod sa politika.. pero karon banat gihapon bisan obvious kaayo walay au! wala dyud ma tagam :bash:.. gi samok2x padyud tang mga cebuano.. maypa magpahuway nalang na siya..

and by the way.. gi supalpal si erap ni mayor tommy. :lol:

Tomas Osmeña says: Erap backing is useless in Cebu

CEBU, Philippines - Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña said yesterday that the endorsement of former president Joseph Estrada of some local opposition candidates is meaningless.:banana:

Osmeña, who arrived home yesterday after a check up at the MD Cancer Center in Houston, Texas, said Estrada never won in Cebu.

“Who is Erap:lol:, he is not even from here, Erap never won in Cebu :lol:, I don’t know his authority here, ” Osmeña said.

He said Estrada was only number 25 when he ran as Senator and only got 10 percent of the vote when he ran for President in 1998.

The mayor said that he is unfazed by the endorsement of Estrada of former Mayor Alvin Garcia as mayoralty bet of Kugi Uswag Sugbo (Kusug).

Estrada also endorsed the candidacy of Jonathan Guardo as his bet for congressman in the South District.

The former president was in Cebu for the launching of his TV commercial endorsing a product being sold by Guardo’s company.

Garcia was vice mayor of Osmeña from 1988 to 1995 and was endorsed by his former ally for the mayoralty in 1995 and re-elected in 1998.

In 2001, when Osmeña and Garcia’s relationship fell apart, they ran against each other with the former retaking his seat.

Garcia challenged Osmeña when the mayor sought re-election in 2004 and again lost.

Guardo, served as Osmeña’s sports consultant when he returned to office in 2001 and occupied the post until 2005 when their relationship soured after the city co-hosted the 23rd Southeast Asian Games.

Guardo ran for congressman in the South District in 2007, but lost to Rep. Antonio Cuenco, who is now on his third and last term.

Osmeña did not like the comment made by Estrada, who alleged that his pal Fernando Poe, Jr., who ran for president and lost to President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo in 2004, was cheated in Cebu by half a million votes.:bash:

“That is so unfair, people just don’t like them, I won by 80,000 votes against Mary Ann (de los Santos) and GMA won with 200,000 votes, ngano manikas man ko para kang GMA manikas na lang ko para sa ako,” Osmeña said.

On having his political rival Alvin Garcia as the mayoralty bet of the opposition, Osmeña said it is entirely up to them.

“If somebody runs it doesn’t mean he will win anyway.”

Osmeña also said that the plan to field Winston Garcia, brother of Governor Gwendolyn Garcia does not really impress him.

“Winston, I’m not particularly impressed (with his record) all I know is he has a lot of money,” Osmeña said.

source: http://www.philstar.com..
mga pepz.. himo mo ug comments sa news! register lang sa philstar. :D

Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 09:09 AM

You might be interested on this...Posted from Cebuano Literary Works and Language.

I am so fascinated with BAHASA (the official language of Indonesia and Malaysia) this is so because of the much similarities of words we have in Cebuano or Visayan. Such knowledge spurred me up to learn it. One night, I was enjoying Indonesian songs played on Youtube and while surfing the net, I made a research about the origin of my language I bumped on a site that posted a catholic prayer translated in different languages all over the world. Since I am Bisaya I looked for the Bisayan or Visayan translation to my surprise what was available was Bisaya (Sarawak) or Bisaya Malay. I thought it was an error, I couldn’t believe what I read in there. I could understand the whole thing; I could understand all of the words written. It is the same language I speak every day. This is the site http://www.marysrosaries.com/Bisaya_Sarawak_prayers.html. Only few filipinos actually knew this fact that is why I am sharing this to all of you. On the site, I noticed that it wasn’t mentioned in the heading that the language is also spoken in our country.
Cebuano/Visayan is not just spoken in our country it is also spoken in Brunei, Malaysia and Parts of Indonesia. This is something all Filipinos should know.
This is very interesting, because we could get into a certain part of the countries I have mentioned without much difficulty understanding

rustyboi

July 15th, 2009, 09:17 AM

^^whoa for some reason, i'm really freaked out with this discovery. :shocked:

thanks for the links, this is really interesting.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 15th, 2009, 09:19 AM

diehardbisdak

July 15th, 2009, 09:40 AM

....sakto ba ni ang news nga gikan si Tomas sa Houston, Texas?

Tomas Osmeña says: Erap backing is useless in Cebu

CEBU, Philippines - Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña said yesterday that the endorsement of former president Joseph Estrada of some local opposition candidates is meaningless.:banana:

Osmeña, who arrived home yesterday after a check up at the MD Cancer Center in Houston, Texas, said Estrada never won in Cebu.

diehardbisdak

July 15th, 2009, 09:45 AM

...reminds me when I watched HARAPAN sa ANC...kung kinsa 'to nakakita sa 2nd episode, maka-ingon gyud nga usa gyud ka JOKE si Erap...nag sige ko'g katawa sa iyang answers sa mga questions thrown at him during the show...it turned out nga dili sya seryoso...mura'g comedy...showbiz gyud! LOL!

sakto gyud si mayor tom ay!!!!! :applause::applause:

ERAP has no RIGHT to POISON every CEBUANO!!!!!

unsa'y pagtuo niya sa mga sugbuanon? BOGO parehas niya?!

hoy noy ERAP intawon noy, Manila ra gyud tawon ka, pasagdahi na lang ang sugbo noy kay kami diri nakatagamtam og mas maayong pagpamensar!

kusog biya kaayo na manakod ang mga dautang bunga! SIMBAKO LANG!

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 15th, 2009, 09:54 AM

^^
hahaha... i miss that entertaining SHOW!!!!! i just can imagine unsa na lang gyud kaha niya gipakauwawan ang pilipinas kadtong presidente pa siya unya gawas-gawas siya sa nasud! basin shooting lang to ilang giadto! hehehe...:lol::lol:

SleMarKen

July 15th, 2009, 10:39 AM

....sakto ba ni ang news nga gikan si Tomas sa Houston, Texas?

I dunno kung sa Texas ba gyud basta I heard sa TV Patrol nga gikan siya sa Amerika nagpa check up...

diehardbisdak

July 15th, 2009, 10:56 AM

^^ i thought gikan sya sa Bogota para sa BRT project..

Henz

July 15th, 2009, 11:20 AM

ayaw na lang na ninyo tagai ug tagad nang Erap issues mga bai...
albeit, lets discuss issues that concerns Cebuanos....

i am interested sa new discovery, that the Bisaya language is being spoken in other Southeast asian countries... but unsa kaha na bisaya, kay ratsada ra ba tanan kung moingon tag bisaya, either cebuano, waray or ilonggo.

SleMarKen

July 15th, 2009, 12:10 PM

^^ i thought gikan sya sa Bogota para sa BRT project..

Yup, Bogota gyud iyang tuyo pero nagpa check up nalang sad tingali og hapit para mausa...hehe

BTW, what's your reaction about this? Ni okay si konsehal Abellanosa ani nga sugyot sa mga bakol og mga disabled Cebuanos...
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1609/skywesca.jpg

Henz

July 15th, 2009, 12:25 PM

Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 01:12 PM

Yup, Bogota gyud iyang tuyo pero nagpa check up nalang sad tingali og hapit para mausa...hehe

BTW, what's your reaction about this? Ni okay si konsehal Abellanosa ani nga sugyot sa mga bakol og mga disabled Cebuanos...

Ok ra ni, basta pangitaan lang sa nila og lugar ning mga kaigsoonan nato nga naa tawon sa mga skywalk nagpuyo. Sayang kaayo ang concept sa escalator, kung naa gihapon maglingkod/manghigda sa skywalk.

Sinjin P.

July 15th, 2009, 01:28 PM

Hoy Gising sa mga opisyales sa Mandaue City: Lantaran kaayo ang mga rugby boys diha! Tsk tsk tsk! :ohno:

zidlakan

July 15th, 2009, 02:52 PM

You might be interested on this...Posted from Cebuano Literary Works and Language.^^whoa for some reason, i'm really freaked out with this discovery. :shocked:
thanks for the links, this is really interesting.http://www.marysrosaries.com/Bisaya_Sarawak_prayers.html

not really that surprising if we remember our elementary school geography
and history classes. remember our ancestors? the first group were the
negritoes who were actually natives to our country. the only remaining
groups today are those indigenous tribes near subic. then came the indone-
sians, and lastly the malays. if you ask linguistic experts, they will tell you
that most filipino languages/dialects are directly related to and one degree
higher than the indon and malay language/dialect - meaning we evolve from
them. which means bahasa is a more basic language than, say, cebuano.
which is why in general, it takes 3 months for an indonesian to learn tagalog
or cebuano but it will only take one month for us to learn bahasa indonesia.
which is also the reason why, when i watch an indonesian or malaysian
movie, usually i can understand half of the words and the whole story for
that matter ...

....sakto ba ni ang news nga gikan si Tomas sa Houston, Texas?I dunno kung sa Texas ba gyud basta I heard sa TV Patrol nga gikan siya sa Amerika nagpa check up...^^ i thought gikan sya sa Bogota para sa BRT project..

when he had his surgery last april, i had it arranged that he could go to
bogota after, say, 3 weeks while recuperating. but he called it off when the
A(H1N1) scare erupted. its not that he was afraid of the flu. but columbia
IS another country and the doctors were afraid he might meet some problems
in coming back to the US and miss his weekly check-up then -- ni panic man
sad to ang US at that time daghan kaayo gi-restrict nga travel so we can't
take the chance. so we decided to postpone the trip on his next check-up
(houston) in july. supposedly, he was to go to bogota after the check-up
but i changed it to before because peñalosa was leaving for brazil on july 4.

demented_pigeon

July 15th, 2009, 03:11 PM

^^whoa for some reason, i'm really freaked out with this discovery. :shocked:

thanks for the links, this is really interesting.

there are quite a few Filipino languages spoken in Indonesia and Malaysia such as Chavacano, Tagalog, and one that I forgot. There has been exchanges between our cultures. I remember in General Santos some people being able to speak in Bahasa because they have apparently been trading in Indonesia and Malaysia for such a long time even before the establishment of independent countries in our region.

demented_pigeon

July 15th, 2009, 03:14 PM

not really that surprising if we remember our elementary school geography
and history classes. remember our ancestors? the first group were the
negritoes who were actually natives to our country. the only remaining
groups today are those indigenous tribes near subic. then came the indone-
sians, and lastly the malays. if you ask linguistic experts, they will tell you
that most filipino languages/dialects are directly related to and one degree
higher than the indon and malay language/dialect - meaning we evolve from
them. which means bahasa is a more basic language than, say, cebuano.
which is why in general, it takes 3 months for an indonesian to learn tagalog
or cebuano but it will only take one month for us to learn bahasa indonesia.
which is also the reason why, when i watch an indonesian or malaysian
movie, usually i can understand half of the words and the whole story for
that matter ...

when he had his surgery last april, i had it arranged that he could go to
bogota after, say, 3 weeks while recuperating. but he called it off when the
A(H1N1) scare erupted. its not that he was afraid of the flu. but columbia
IS another country and the doctors were afraid he might meet some problems
in coming back to the US and miss his weekly check-up then -- ni panic man
sad to ang US at that time daghan kaayo gi-restrict nga travel so we can't
take the chance. so we decided to postpone the trip on his next check-up
(houston) in july. supposedly, he was to go to bogota after the check-up
but i changed it to before because peñalosa was leaving for brazil on july 4.

super OT, the wave migration theory wherein negritoes came first followed by malaysians and indonesians isn't accepted anymore by most historians because of certain problems like the fact that there's no such thing as malaysian or indonesian ethnicities. Actually, pe-hispanic natives in our country today may well have migrated to present day Indonesia or Malaysia. I don't know why they still teach the wave migration in schools.

AmbutLang

July 15th, 2009, 03:27 PM

rustyboi

July 15th, 2009, 03:48 PM

there are quite a few Filipino languages spoken in Indonesia and Malaysia such as Chavacano, Tagalog, and one that I forgot. There has been exchanges between our cultures. I remember in General Santos some people being able to speak in Bahasa because they have apparently been trading in Indonesia and Malaysia for such a long time even before the establishment of independent countries in our region.

^^Yeah. :) I'm aware that most of the Filipino words (Bisaya in this case) originated/borrowed from neighboring countries. Seriously, that specific link surprised me. It's like almost everything is the Cebuano language we speak today. It wouldn't be so surprising kung ubang words lang pero the entirety of it appears like written from a pure Bisdak. The structure, the composition of sentences, etc. hehe ignorante kaayo ko ani.. so the next thing that comes to my mind, is the accent! the Bisaya Sarawak or Malay, pina bisdak ba pud? Coz I have plans of going to Indonesia siguro next year. pangita-on na nako asa na dapita ba. hehe

diehardbisdak

July 15th, 2009, 05:12 PM

Trivia:

Do you know that the word "BAI" (friend in Cebuano) has the same meaning in Hindi language (Indian)?

Do you know that the word "Sa?" (right? in Cebuano) is also being used in Arabic with the same meaning?

^^Yeah. :) I'm aware that most of the Filipino words (Bisaya in this case) originated/borrowed from neighboring countries. Seriously, that specific link surprised me. It's like almost everything is the Cebuano language we speak today. It wouldn't be so surprising kung ubang words lang pero the entirety of it appears like written from a pure Bisdak. The structure, the composition of sentences, etc. hehe ignorante kaayo ko ani.. so the next thing that comes to my mind, is the accent! the Bisaya Sarawak or Malay, pina bisdak ba pud? Coz I have plans of going to Indonesia siguro next year. pangita-on na nako asa na dapita ba. hehe

leylander

July 15th, 2009, 05:26 PM

Stunning Badian Island
photos by Aubrey

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Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 06:27 PM

Ato ni Bai!
flickr photo by (J)eff

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Zuburbia

July 15th, 2009, 06:27 PM

Discovering Cebu Part 2

Capitancillo Island, Bogo, Cebu
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Ataka aning capitancillo island mura man og naa sa europe..murag island sa greece...

Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 06:35 PM

Ataka aning capitancillo island mura man og naa sa europe..murag island sa greece...

Kaanha naka ana bai?

Capitancillo pa na bai...How about kani?

Sumilon Island, Cebu
flickr photo by asyzoom

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diehardbisdak

July 15th, 2009, 07:09 PM

Moviegoers still flocking to SM cinemas, says exec (http://www.bworldonline.com/BW071609/content.php?id=045)
Business World Online
16 July 2009

THE ECONOMIC slowdown may have pushed Filipinos to cut back on unnecessary expenses like travel and shopping, but are keeping the habit of going to the movies, according to SM Cinemas.

In an interview, Edgar C. Tejerero, senior vice-president of SM Cinema, said movie patrons have increased by 3% to 4% from January to June this year. Average annual gross ticket sales remains at P2.5 billion.

The SM group yesterday launched its second IMAX theater — whose ticket price is at least P100 higher than that of regular cinemas — at SM City North EDSA. Officials said another IMAX theater will open in Cebu before the year ends, and another in Taguig next year.

The group also plans to open a second "Director’s Club" exclusive theater at the Podium mall next year, which will have at least 60 seats. The first 36-seater Director’s Club at the SM Mall of Asia continues to experience a 90% occupancy rate.

"A lot of our [movie] patrons are discriminating [moviegoers] who are no longer satisfied by the small cinemas, and [the IMAX theater] is benefiting from these people. In fact, many of them who watch a movie in a regular theater end up watching the same movie again at IMAX," Mr. Tejerero said.

Their first SM IMAX theater, opened in 2006, has a 72% to 78% occupancy rate. The group has changed its strategy in the 576-seater theater to featuring at least 10 Hollywood films yearly and reducing the number of educational shows to just five.

Mr. Tejerero said the P120-million IMAX theater in SM North EDSA would fill a "big vacuum" in the northern part of the metropolis, since customers for the IMAX in the Mall of Asia are mainly from the south.

The new IMAX theater can accommodate 472 customers. The ticket price ranges from P250 to P400. The new theater however is only 14 meters high, lower than the 24-meter-high IMAX at the Mall of Asia but still higher than the eight- to 10-meter-high regular cinemas.

Mr. Tejerero said the IMAX theater in Cebu would open in November or December, with at least 500 seats. Plans for an IMAX in Taguig are still at the pipeline. There are still no plans for an IMAX at SM Megamall in Ortigas.

Unlike ordinary movie houses, IMAX theaters are equipped with the "most advanced digital theater system," with "crystal-clear images, laser-aligned digital sound and customized theater geometry which maximizes a viewer’s field of view, making him feel as if he is inside the movie."

SM Cinemas have a total of 127,000 seats nationwide in 206 movie theaters. — Kristine Jane R. L

Sleepwalker

July 15th, 2009, 07:17 PM

Outdoor gear maker eyes bigger market in Manila (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/outdoor-gear-maker-eyes-bigger-market-manila)

AFTER establishing a strong brand presence in the Visayas and Mindanao, Habagat Outdoor Equipment is setting its sights on Metro Manila.

“Metro Manila has more than 13 million people. If a (brand) gets known there, it gets known nationwide,” said Habagat general manager Jenar Suson.

The company’s plan involves dividing Metro Manila into strategic areas and establishing partnerships with potential distributors in these places. It is eyeing Toby’s Sports, Greenbelt and Festival Mall.

Suson disclosed that Habagat is in the process of linking with Recreational Outdoor Exchange (ROX) in Manila. ROX is a retailer of outdoor gear and equipment, mostly foreign brands.

The details of the partnership are still being finalized.

Habagat also started the development of a four-hectare property near Lake Danao in San Francisco, Camotes, Cebu.

The Cebu-based outdoor gear and equipment manufacturer wants to establish an eco-tourism facility in the area “promote the outdoor way of life.”

The property is designed to be a summer camp that can be used for team building and retreat activities. A space will be provided for a two-story structure that can be used as a dormitory.

“The structures at the camp will make use of indigenous materials,” said Suson, adding that they have not yet determined how much they will be spending on the facility.

Habagat has been in the business of manufacturing outdoor gear for 23 years. The company was founded by three architects—Efren “Junks” Muana, Randy Su and Dindo Sugatan—who pooled their savings to come up with P4,500, which was used as capital to design and make outdoor recreational equipment using an old sewing machine.

Today, Habagat operates four outlets in Cebu and Davao, and two in Metro Manila. It has 27 dealers nationwide, most of whom are in the Visayas and Mindanao.

Habagat’s manufacturing plant is on Archbishop Reyes Ave., Cebu City.

Despite the entry of international outdoor sports brands, Habagat made about P50 million in gross sales in 2008. Among its bestsellers are outdoor bags.

This year, it is targeting P79 million in gross sales.

Habagat prefers to partner with distributors, instead of putting up its own stores, Suson said.

federalist

July 15th, 2009, 08:05 PM

flesh_is_weak

July 15th, 2009, 08:31 PM

Stunning Badian Island

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mura ug Inferi :lol:

Zuburbia

July 16th, 2009, 02:26 AM

Kaanha naka ana bai?

Capitancillo pa na bai...How about kani?

Sumilon Island, Cebu
flickr photo by asyzoom

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more than europe na ni bai..its a tropical paradise na...hrabeh gyud og contrast ang cebu oi..sa kagamay sa isla, grabeh japon kayog diversity...hehehe :banana:
hahaha awas awas ang pride! I LOVE CEBU! HAHAHA

betro

July 16th, 2009, 02:55 AM

Meco upbeat on RP-Taiwan tourism prospects

Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:46:00 07/15/2009

Filed Under: Economy and Business and Finance, Tourism

THE MANILA ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL Office hopes the resumption of the Kaohsiung-Cebu chartered flight via Taiwan flag carrier China Airlines will boost tourism between the two countries.

China Airlines’ 150-seat Airbus A320 will fly the Kaohsiung-Cebu route every five days.

In a statement issued yesterday, Meco director for tourism Ireneo Reyes said the resumption of the chartered flight last Monday amid the Influenza A(H1N1) pandemic was a welcome development for the Philippine tourism market.

He noted that outbound travel from Taiwan had been steadily declining due to the flu scare and the economic crisis. For the first five months of the year, the decline had already reached 10 percent.

With the Cebu-Kaohsiung chartered flight, however, he said local travel agents would have the opportunity to lure Taiwanese tourists into the country.

The Kaohsiung-Cebu chartered flights, he said, would initially operate for three months. Last year, the chartered flights operated for around five months, or from May to September.
Abigail L. Ho

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 16th, 2009, 03:32 AM

Wow ha.. naa diay proposal to put escalator sa skywalks.. ok sad ni dah... maayo noon pero i am sure.. dili lang ang mga bakol or disable ang mga malipay, hasta jud tanan na mga able.. young and old.. hehehe

basta ayaw lang sa manga skywalks na tungod gyud sa manga balay daplin sa dalan kay sure ko maguba gyud dayon na! hehehe....:lol::lol::nuts:

rustyboi

July 16th, 2009, 04:34 AM

Sleepwalker

July 16th, 2009, 04:37 AM

Wa moy mga rumors gikan sa mga MCIA insiders lang gud? Kanang ginagmay lang gud nga paglaom nga naglihok pa tong ilang plano?

betro

July 16th, 2009, 04:47 AM

Wa moy mga rumors gikan sa mga MCIA insiders lang gud? Kanang ginagmay lang gud nga paglaom nga naglihok pa tong ilang plano?

MCIAA ra jud makatubag ana bai especially Gov. Gwen Garcia na wala jud lain gibuhat diha sa airport.:bash:

Henz

July 16th, 2009, 05:11 AM

I have read the news karon sa Business Mirror:

SM Prime to put up 2 more IMAX theaters;

SM Prime Holdings, Inc the listed mall developer of the SM Group is planning to put up two more IMAX theaters in its malls over the next two years in an effort to tap higher end consumers, said a top company official, Edgar Tejerero, senior vice president of West Avenue Theater Corp., SM Prime's Cinema arm said, the developer will add the specialized theater to the upcoming SM Taguig, which will start construction this year, and another for SM City Cebu, which will also break ground late this year...

Question: The next mall diay for Cebu is go na jud diay na? And the next mall, as expected is really a classy mall, since another IMAX will be put up there.

This is on top of the 400 seat IMAX theater which will be opened in SM City Cebu this year...

:banana::banana::banana:

Sinjin P.

July 16th, 2009, 05:49 AM

^ Don't be too sure. Murag naglibog/nasayop ang author anang Business Mirror article. :)

leylander

July 16th, 2009, 05:55 AM

basig ang 2 mao nang cebu ug taguig.

demented_pigeon

July 16th, 2009, 07:40 AM

ronaldguru

July 16th, 2009, 07:43 AM

GUYS, CAN YOU GIVE ME THE CURRENT LIST OF THE JEEPNEY ROUTES IN CEBU CITY? THANKS.

Hiroshima

July 16th, 2009, 08:01 AM

^^
Relax lang bai.. ayaw ka tense. hehe

anyway,
http://www.wayblima.com/cebu-jeepneys-routes.html

it's not really updated. I believe there are more than a hundred jeepney routes in the metro.. more than 200 pa siguro.

you better specify an area so we can list the routes we know. or kanang from one place to another.

Time will come ma reduce na ni...go BRT!

zeos

July 16th, 2009, 08:04 AM

GUYS, CAN YOU GIVE ME THE CURRENT LIST OF THE JEEPNEY ROUTES IN CEBU CITY? THANKS.

mahaba habang discussion yan, best discussed over san mig! :cheers::lol: o ano? game? sinong game?!

ronaldguru

July 16th, 2009, 08:05 AM

Ok. Thanks guys.

diehardbisdak

July 16th, 2009, 08:32 AM

^ Don't be too sure. Murag naglibog/nasayop ang author anang Business Mirror article. :)

correct...!!! ..mao sab gyud akong first reaction, nasayop na sab ang media...LOL!

...kani, medyo klaro ni:

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SM to roll out 3 new IMAX theaters in 2 yrs

By Zinnia B. Dela Peña Updated July 16, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - SM Cinema and Canada-based megascreen producer IMAX Corp. will roll out three new multiplex theaters in the Philippines within two years.

An IMAX screen is the equivalent of a high-definition TV for a movie theater, which displays images of far greater size and resolution than conventional film systems. A standard IMAX screen can be anywhere from 40 feet high to 70 feet wide.

In a briefing with reporters yesterday, Edgar Tejerero, senior vice-president of West Avenue Theaters Corp., said the SM Group will open its second IMAX Theater today (July 16) at SM City North EDSA with a seating capacity of 472, bringing to 206 the total number of SM cinemas nationwide. This theater was built at a cost of P120 million and will have Harry Potter as its first feature film.

By the latter part of this year, SM will open another one in Cebu – its first IMAX Theater outside Metro Manila – which will have a total of 500 seats.

A fourth IMAX Theater is slated for completion in 2011 or late 2010, Tejerero said. This will be situated at the planned SM Supermall in Taguig City.

Tejerero said the SM Group is also exploring the possibility of building an IMAX Theater in SM Megmall but pointed out that this is still under study.

The first IMAX Theater in the Philippines opened in 2006 at the SM Mall of Asia along Roxas Boulevard with a total seating capacity of 576.

Tejerero said the expansion was intended to accommodate the increasing demand for IMAX Theaters, which are going through the transition of becoming marginally profitable.

Studies showed that people are increasingly willing to pay more than the standard movie ticket prices to see blockbusters on giant screens. IMAX ticket prices vary from P250 to P400

“People have become more discriminating. Some are not satisfied with just watching on a regular screen,” Tejerero said.

He said SM cinema ticket sales rose four percent in the first half this year, driven by the showing of the blockbuster film Transformers 2.

He said since the first IMAX Theater opened in 2006, the SM group has been getting a decent return.

The IMAX system has its roots in Expo ’67 in Montreal, Canada, where multi-screen films were the hit of the fair. A small group of Canadian filmmakers/entrepreneurs who had made some of those popular films, decided to design a new system using a single, powerful projector rather than the cumbersome multi-projectors used at that time. The result: the IMAX motion picture projection system, which would revolutionize giant screen cinema.

Today, the IMAX Theater network consists of more than 250

IMAX affiliated theaters in 36 countries. Approximately 60 percent of the theaters are located in North America, while the remaining 40 percent are spread internationally.

While US is its biggest market, IMAX is increasingly banking its future on Asia, with plans to open 40 new theaters in China by the end of 2012. It recently unveiled partnerships in Taiwan, Russia, India and Europe.
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=487048&publicationSubCategoryId=66

Henz

July 16th, 2009, 09:09 AM

demented_pigeon

July 16th, 2009, 02:12 PM

perhaps wrong jud to.. the impression man gud sa Business Mirror, is that in two years time, SM is going to have two more IMAX, which will be built in SM Taguig, construction will start this year, as well as the SM City Cebu ( assumed to be the 2nd) since it says, in the report that it will break ground later this year..

Reading further from the same article, SM IMAX has now a total of 1,051 seats (for the MOA and the just opened North EDSA Mall), with 400 more after the installation of the IMAX theater in SM City Cebu.

But perhaps, it might not be farfetched, that SM's 2nd mall in Cebu ( which as per press release of Mr. Hans Sy, will also break ground at the end of the year) will probably have a built in IMAX theater to cater to the high end market. But of course, we got to see the final rendering and location of the 2nd SM Mall first before we will discuss the 2nd IMAX theater.

actually when i read it, i didn't assume SM would have two imax in cebu. Its probably on how we read it because "it will open another one in cebu" can be misread as opening another one on top of the current one in cebu or opening another one on top of the existing Imax theaters but located in cebu. Its really in how you read it. I showed it to some people and it can be misread both ways. And the whole sentence said "By the latter part of this year, SM will open another one in Cebu – its first IMAX Theater outside Metro Manila – which will have a total of 500 seats." There's the statement first Imax outside metro manila which mean its only one. And this is sooo ot.

crlazlo3

July 16th, 2009, 03:42 PM

When a person asks "why would you want to live in Cebu?", all one has to do is share some of the photos posted in this forum...

bakasaurus

July 16th, 2009, 04:42 PM

Ug karon hapit na pod sirad-an kining yugto sa Sugbuanong hilo (thread?). Maayong gabie sa tanan. Mabuhi ang Sugbo! Hahaha.

leviaragon

July 16th, 2009, 08:16 PM

i find this blog form the internet, nya mura man ug naa siyay truth.

Please please me

People regard them as opinionated, demanding, difficult, rarely expressive, and very proud. Most musicians in this country tend to agree they are a most difficult bunch to contend with. I’m not talking about label executives or concert promoters. Nor am I talking about music critics and entertainment writers. I talk of a distinct class that runs the gamut of social strata. A specific group of people that musicians either hate or enjoy, rarely in between. One time, I saw Francis Magalona walk out on them once out of sheer frustration yet on the same occasion, Joey Ayala celebrates in their company even when he wasn’t expecting to. Performers either wither or bloom in front of their scrutiny.

I talk of no other than the Cebuano audience. Such a proud bunch. Difficult to please, difficult to understand, and just plain difficult.

By some strange quirk of cultural and biological evolution, Cebuanos can’t seem to understand the value of generous applause, me included. I only learned to applaud more, albeit grudgingly, after my early experiences on stage made me realize its gargantuan value as a performer on the receiving end. For an artist to perform in front of, and to draw applause from the Cebuano audience is just as hard, if not doubly hard as say, pulling teeth – a trying task for the dentist and a painful ordeal for the patient. But let’s not talk of the one standing and doing all the work. Let us instead try and analyze the one who just sits there and waits for things to happen, and gargles liquid and spits in intervals.

So why are Cebuanos known to be such a tough audience? Why is it so hard for them to clap hands after a number?

Is it because of the Cebuanos’ anatomy or physical attributes? Probably not. After all, Cebuanos are descended from Lapu-lapu whose hands were better at wielding the kris than an invading Spaniard’s pale pair could parry. Or wasn’t Magellan Portuguese? In any case, Cebu’s local blacksmiths made better weapons than those of the European invaders could make armor. Cebuanos have good hands, history stands witness to this, so no, it’s not because of defective wrists.

So is it because Cebuanos don’t care to applaud because of laziness? Probably not. For a stiff Cebuano audience can just as easily transform into an angry mob throwing bottles and coins as well as creative expletives at the stage with characteristic enthusiasm and riotous vigor. Cebuanos are anything but lazy. Even Juan Tamad was not Cebuano for if he was, he’d have been called Juan Tapulan so no, it’s not because of lethargic arm and hand muscles.

So is it because Cebuanos don’t recognize talent? Probably not. After all, just like the gay community, it takes one to know one, and Cebu is known to be such a wellspring of unheralded and often underrated musicians. If there is any single province in the Philippines that is associated with musical talent, it’s Cebu. Other regions can brag about their famous cooking. Others brag about their famous handicrafts and local industries. There’s even a region that’s just famous for their bragging. Cebuanos however, simply can sing or play an instrument better. Even better than they can brag about it. Just visit any hotel in any country in the Pacific rim. Chances are, the musicians at the lounge are Cebuanos. Or just go around the country and hang out in any videoke joint. In provinces other than Cebu, (yes, I’ve been around the country to tour videoke joints – don’t ask me why), it can get horrible quite often and, many times, tortuous. In Cebu, it’s slightly different. Of course, the singing can get bad at times, yes, but on average, there is always a surprising display of raw, uncoached talent. Cebuanos are good if not better singers and musicians and should recognize talent easily so no, it’s not because of an obtuse sense of talent.

Still, the question lingers. Why are Cebuanos such a tough audience?

I strongly suspect the answer lies in the Cebuano’s pride – not their dried mangoes, mind you - but their haughty attitude in the belief that they are better than others, a sense of self-worth just as tough as their famous local delicacy is fibrous and chewy.

Cebuanos tend to think that whatever anyone does on stage, he can do better. And even if he clearly can’t outdo the performance even in his head, he still won’t show that he’s impressed at all. Cebuanos, by nature, are hinawayon. Roughly translated, it means ‘quick to criticize’.

If the performer on stage is a horrible singer, a Cebuano will say so in unflattering and exaggerated words. If she’s a diva, a Cebuano will say something about her skewed face. If she’s a diva and an angel, a Cebuano will say something about her bad taste in fashion. If she’s a diva, an angel, and a doll, a Cebuano will definitely not like her at all. If its not one thing, its another. There is no pleasing the Cebuano. And even if they are pleased, they won’t show it.

Even if you were a Cebuano performing in front of Cebuanos, you’d get comments like ‘silingan ra man na namo’ (translated: he’s just someone who lives in our neighborhood’). So in some ways, it is even worse for locals. Maybe that explains why in ways, Cebuano musicians have a more disciplined approach to their craft. Maybe not technically better than other musicians, but as a rule, generally less reckless. I sense this to be the natural result of constantly playing in front of a hinawayon audience.

So naturally, Cebu bands practice more. Which surprises a lot of Manila bands when they ask what the secret is. Just practice, practice, and practice. Nothing new and nothing revolutionary. If Manila bands have attitude and Manila audiences are worked-up easily. Cebu bands on the other hand are always worked-up while it’s the Cebu audiences that have attitude. See the difference?

In conclusion, it is not to say that Cebuano audiences have better taste. That would be saying a lot more than others will agree to. Only that Cebuanos can be very picky and unforgiving. Being a Cebuano myself, I offer no apologies. I can offer dried mangoes though.

AmbutLang

July 16th, 2009, 11:35 PM

zidlakan

July 17th, 2009, 12:46 AM

betro

July 17th, 2009, 02:10 AM

Pacquiao invited to attend Osmeña's birthday party
Updated July 17, 2009 12:00 AM

CEBU, Philippines – National figures and known personalities are expected to join Mayor Tomas Osmeña during the celebration of his 61st birthday on July 26.

World boxing champion Manny Pacquiao, whom the mayor described as his idol, is among those who were invited to come.

“I’m not that kind of person who idolizes but I’m happy Pacquiao, who is my idol is attending,” Osmeña said.

After winning his 6th title in May against British boxer Ricky Hatton, Pacquiao was scheduled to come to Cebu City several times for the city to honor him on his feat but was never realized.

Aside from Pacquiao, Osmeña said he also expects national politicians including Senators Manuel Roxas, Loren Legarda and Francis Escudero to come to his birthday. Osmeña is inclined to support Roxas in his presidential bid in the May 2010 polls.

The mayor’s brother, former Senator Sergio Osmeña III, will also be in town as well as his close friends from Manila.

“There will also be an investiture for Margot as she becomes a senior citizen, a ‘chaleko’ or something, I will also sign her senior citizen card,” Osmeña joked. Margot will be celebrating her 60th birthday on July 25.

Osmeña said he will not make any major announcement or make a state of the city address on that day.

“It is gonna be a happy occasion. It’s a celebration to say ‘hi, I’m still alive.’ What better announcement I can give?” he said.

Also expected to attend the mayor’s birthday celebration are city councilors and barangay officials.

Osmeña said he chose to hold the party at SM City since it is cheaper although he would have preferred to spend it at the South Road Properties (SRP) if not for the weather.

The city had just signed a lease contract with SM for another parcel of lot at the North Reclamation Area (NRA). — Ferliza C. Contratista/WAB (THE FREEMAN)

leylander

July 17th, 2009, 03:03 AM

Crocs has gone bankrupt.

So, it's just a matter of time before the Northwing branch says buh-bye.

leylander

July 17th, 2009, 03:19 AM

^^

some of us may not agree with some points of the above, but there seems to
a general nodding of heads and a quick smile as we run through the discourse
probably coz we see reflections of ourselves as we read through.

but what is generally true is that the music and arts always look at cebu as the
acid test of whether a performance will make or break ... they always say,
especially those going into a concert tour ... "if you succeed in cebu, it will
ensure that you succeed in the rest of the country."

i particularly like the part about music lounges in different countries. my recent
visits to shanghai, nanjing, and bangkok found me speaking bisaya to hotel
bands and music lounge singers!

Indeed Cebu is like a litmus test for almost everything in this country. Restaurants, Brands, Bands, they all pray that the Cebuano audience would give them the thumbs up.

Was it Martin Nievera who said that he would never sing in front of a hard-to-please Cebuano audience ever again? Yet, he broke his word and did another concert here recently. I guess it's the ego that asked "I'm a multi-awarded concert performer and I've been well-praised all over the country, except in Cebu. There must be something to break that hard shell. What could it be?"

Hahaha. I find this article really amusing. It's something that makes you nod your head and want to punch someone's face at the same time. LOL. In short, it hurts but it's true. Haha.

Very nice article indeed. Good find, @leviaragon.

bukid

July 17th, 2009, 04:43 AM

Still, the question lingers. Why are Cebuanos such a tough audience?

I strongly suspect the answer lies in the Cebuano’s pride – not their dried mangoes, mind you - but their haughty attitude in the belief that they are better than others, a sense of self-worth just as tough as their famous local delicacy is fibrous and chewy.

Cebuanos tend to think that whatever anyone does on stage, he can do better. And even if he clearly can’t outdo the performance even in his head, he still won’t show that he’s impressed at all. Cebuanos, by nature, are hinawayon. Roughly translated, it means ‘quick to criticize’.

If the performer on stage is a horrible singer, a Cebuano will say so in unflattering and exaggerated words. If she’s a diva, a Cebuano will say something about her skewed face. If she’s a diva and an angel, a Cebuano will say something about her bad taste in fashion. If she’s a diva, an angel, and a doll, a Cebuano will definitely not like her at all. If its not one thing, its another. There is no pleasing the Cebuano. And even if they are pleased, they won’t show it.

Even if you were a Cebuano performing in front of Cebuanos, you’d get comments like ‘silingan ra man na namo’ (translated: he’s just someone who lives in our neighborhood’). So in some ways, it is even worse for locals. Maybe that explains why in ways, Cebuano musicians have a more disciplined approach to their craft. Maybe not technically better than other musicians, but as a rule, generally less reckless. I sense this to be the natural result of constantly playing in front of a hinawayon audience.

:lol: murag naa pud pagkatinuod. :lol: daghan bitaw ko nabantayan na ingana, mga hinawayon labi na ang akong sugbuanong iyaan. :lol:

Henz

July 17th, 2009, 04:47 AM

actually when i read it, i didn't assume SM would have two imax in cebu. Its probably on how we read it because "it will open another one in cebu" can be misread as opening another one on top of the current one in cebu or opening another one on top of the existing Imax theaters but located in cebu. Its really in how you read it. I showed it to some people and it can be misread both ways. And the whole sentence said "By the latter part of this year, SM will open another one in Cebu – its first IMAX Theater outside Metro Manila – which will have a total of 500 seats." There's the statement first Imax outside metro manila which mean its only one. And this is sooo ot.

I dont think were OT here... correct..its is actually misleading, it can be read both ways...

but as per the new press release made by our Mayor Tommy, SM had just concluded a deal with SM for a parcel of land at NRA... perhaps the timetable of putting up two more IMAX theaters in the next two years would in the end be possible. SM Taguig will start construction this year and perhaps the SM City in NRA will also start within the year... :banana::banana:

Henz

July 17th, 2009, 04:49 AM

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 17th, 2009, 04:51 AM

just like politicians from manila going here too. cebuanos are hard-to-please voters! hahaha...:okay:

maayo pud na uy para dili mudako ang ulo unya dili maghinabog ba. cebuanos know how to "tame" a "mahangin" person! hehehe

bukid

July 17th, 2009, 04:54 AM

^^ some entertainers gets frustrated when cebuanos wont dance or sing with them when they invite them dance and sing while they perform, very unlike the metropolitan manilan crowd. :D usahay sabton nalang nato na mejo mauwawon pud ang sagaran mga sugbuanon.

zidlakan

July 17th, 2009, 05:13 AM

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

July 17th, 2009, 05:19 AM

^^

right sir paul! hehehe....

dili dali magpailad! matud pa sa akong tiyo, ang bayle bayle, para ra na sa mga babaye! hehehe....:lol::lol::D

bukid

July 17th, 2009, 05:28 AM

pwede ingono nato nga mauwawon,pwede pud matawag nga dili oto-oto :D

:lol: mao pud :lol: bisag ako, dili gyud ko musayaw uy, kasuway ko ana sa una sa ayala na naay nagshow unya pasayawon ang mga audience. bisag naa ko didto wala ko nisayaw uy, binuang mo diha. kit-an pa lang nuon ko sa akong mga kaila, binuangan pa hinuon ko nga nagsayawsayaw ko didto.

demented_pigeon

July 17th, 2009, 05:53 AM

I dont think were OT here... correct..its is actually misleading, it can be read both ways...

but as per the new press release made by our Mayor Tommy, SM had just concluded a deal with SM for a parcel of land at NRA... perhaps the timetable of putting up two more IMAX theaters in the next two years would in the end be possible. SM Taguig will start construction this year and perhaps the SM City in NRA will also start within the year... :banana::banana:

nindot unta na noh. basin related and contract sa plano nga smx. Well of course there would be doubts on why would SM enter into a contract with the city for a parcel of land that sm already owns right? Maytag joint venture ni aron maingon ni tomas sa capitol nga pang memorial homes na gyud ang cicc. of course, all bets are off.

Henz

July 17th, 2009, 05:59 AM

bai... am sorry.. i have mistaken the NRA as the SRP... my bad...
however, let us just wait for the final announcement of the Mayor during his birthday.. i guess, this will clear up everything...

federalist

July 17th, 2009, 07:16 AM

nindot unta na noh. basin related and contract sa plano nga smx. Well of course there would be doubts on why would SM enter into a contract with the city for a parcel of land that sm already owns right? Maytag joint venture ni aron maingon ni tomas sa capitol nga pang memorial homes na gyud ang cicc. of course, all bets are off.

another parcel naman sad bai.

RonnieR

July 17th, 2009, 07:24 AM