Cebú City and Province [Archive] - Page 259

bisdakincanada

November 3rd, 2009, 07:05 PM

PRoperty sa akong family dha atbang sa BIR.. Waterfront hotel wants to buy all of the block from TESDA down to grand convention center for their hotel's ambitious plan of putting up a bellagio hotel type of fountain. They offer my family's property a very huge amount alone pero they have to convince all of the neighborhood..

PLUS the city had long been wanted to put up a center isle along that area, They will kill our business and others to. WHAT DO YOU THINK GUYS?
bai, sorry kung mawad-an mo'g business, pero nindot ang plano sa waterfront! tingali'g daghang mga tourists ang ni reklamo nga ang waterfront hotel kay wala jd'y body of water duol niya except sa pond. hehe

dako kaayo nga yuta ang ilang paliton! from TESDA all the way to grand con! ngiga ana oi! hopefully, kung madayon man gani, dili mo malugi.

unsa ang inyong business? kanang lumber yard? sige biya ko ug palit dira ug supplies katong naa koy project sa crossroads! heheh or pipeline? naa pa ba ang pipeline? nindot biya i-hangout didto.

Jimbu

November 3rd, 2009, 08:02 PM

City accepts SM’s offer for lot (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/city-accepts-sm%E2%80%99s-offer-lot)
Wednesday, November 4, 2009
By Linette C. Ramos

CEBU City Hall accepted “in principle” the offer of SM Prime Holdings Inc. to buy a 30-hectare portion of the South Road Properties (SRP) for P2.7 billion, and will ask the company today to pay the P270-million bid bond.

City Administrator Francisco Fernandez said they will also ask SM Prime Holdings president Hans Sy to submit other eligibility documents, including the company’s financial statements.

A certification that 60 percent of the company’s shares are owned by Filipinos and its Securities and Exchange Commission registration will also be required.

The City’s bids and awards committee is asking for P270 million for the bond to be paid in cash or manager’s check, which represents 10 percent of the bid price.

Fernandez will send the letter to Sy today.

“In principle, we have accepted their offer but the mayor will ask them to submit additional documents and to deposit the 10-percent bid bond. As soon as we have the documents and the bond, two days after, we will already publish the invitation for a competitive challenge,” he said.

14-day period

The invitation will be published twice within a 14-day period. Interested challengers will have 30 days from the last day of publication to submit their offer.

“They will have 30 days to submit their letter of intent and if no one is interested to challenge the offer of SM, we will award the sale to SM,” Fernandez explained.

Through a competitive challenge, the City will be allowed to negotiate with the buyer on the terms and conditions of the sale and the intended use of the property.

Challenge

It will also allow other interested developers to submit their proposals and challenge the offer of SM Prime, which the latter can match if it loses in the bidding.

SM Prime has submitted an unsolicited proposal to buy a 30-hectare portion of the SRP for P2.7 billion, payable in six years with an interest of five percent per year on unpaid principal balance.

The City will get P675 million or 25 percent of total bid price as down payment 15 days after SM Prime receives the Notice of Award.

Mall

Aside from a shopping mall with a floor area of 25 hectares, SM Prime will also build a two-hectare convention facility, hotels, school, hospital and high-rise residential condominiums.

Last Saturday, Mayor Tomas Osmeña briefed barangay captains and councilors on SM’s proposal, and consulted them whether the City should accept it.

All those present raised their hands when he asked them if they approved the offer.

Fernandez said they are still waiting for the formal offer of Bigfoot Properties Inc. to buy a six-hectare portion of the SRP, which will be intended for its expansion project, including a complex of serviced apartments

cebuboi

November 3rd, 2009, 10:42 PM

Diri ko sa deira bai sa Hamarain Center, Asa man ka sa UAE?

satwa ko bai....kitakits na lng nya...

marlowe_cano

November 3rd, 2009, 10:49 PM

Agree gyud ko bai. Small but byutipol pod nga mall ang mas maayo sa akoang pananaw.

i sOo aGree!! ;D

dongRoy

November 4th, 2009, 03:19 AM

Dili sa pagpanghambug pero nalingaw lang ko nga mga rumors nga akong gipangpost hapit na natinuod... HEHEHE

and yes, that's the plan - all units and stations should be Wifi ...

Rumor I posted Dec. 02, 2008 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28837478&postcount=8805)

Cebu BRT buses will have WiFi Access. A large but silent Cebuano Company interested in proposing to serve BRT routes. Company board assessing the business opportunity.

^^I was just making this up before. 'Twas more of a dream than a rumor. :lol:

Rumor I posted Dec. 09, 2008 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=29130150&postcount=47243)

BTW, Atan Guardo is on his informal campaign trail. I should be posting this sa rumors thread pero kasagaran di man mubisita didto. hehehehe! Rumor has it that he's running for congress but come election time, he would be vying for Mayor of Cebu City. @mods, I'm not sure if this post is allowed. Just delete this if it isn't.

^^Kini siya, nanag-an ra pud ko ani. Peculiar man gud kaayo iyang gipangbuhat adtong panahona... hehehe

Guardo for mayor? (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/guardo-mayor)

By Linette C. Ramos [1] and Rene H. Martel [2]

BUSINESSMAN Jonathan “Atan” Guardo and Lahug Barangay Captain Mary Ann de los Santos are open to run for mayor and vice mayor, respectively, “if there is a clamor” from Cebu City’s residents.

Both still plan to run for Congress, but for now they will be campaigning in each other’s turf “for new politics.” They will also share a platform of governance that includes proposing the creation of a third district composed of the city’s mountain barangays.

Guardo and de los Santos yesterday launched their “Our City” campaign. Our stands for “opportunity, unity and reform.”

Told about the oppo-sition’s move, Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña challenged Guardo and De los Santos to “run for mayor and vice mayor, sige na please. Tell them the clamoring is from me.”

The next mayor of Cebu City faces the challenge of, among others, making sure the City keeps paying its debt for the South Road Properties, implementing a big-ticket project like the Bus Rapid Transit, and mending strained relations with officials of Cebu Province.

The mayor said that Guardo’s camp is scampering to complete their slate and get the support of national candidates, “because maybe it’s a moneymaking venture.”

MORE.. (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/guardo-mayor)

rustyboi

November 4th, 2009, 03:55 AM

An article on yesterday's newspaper
I took the photo

Sunstar Cebu
Nov. 3, 2009

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/SRP/PBx030025.jpg

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 4th, 2009, 04:06 AM

^^

this is a great move for the city hall at least sila maoy magbuhat og housing para sa mga illegal settlers para dili na sila mismo ang maghimo sa ilang mga balay na pwerte gyud hugawa tanawon... ;)

rustyboi

November 4th, 2009, 04:06 AM

An article on yesterday's newspaper
I took the photo

Sunstar Cebu
Nov. 3, 2009

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/SRP/PBx030025.jpg

rustyboi

November 4th, 2009, 04:13 AM

Repost:

Cebu Daily News (10/31/2009) show Mayor Tom's presentation to the Brgy Captains of the city which was being done last Saturday. Based on the photo, I labeled parts of SRP with the upcoming development:

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/SRP/SRPdevtplan.jpg

^^I'm not sure if I labed Filinvest's land correctly. Please notify me for correction, if there's any. :)

rustyboi

November 4th, 2009, 04:24 AM

AmbutLang

November 4th, 2009, 04:46 AM

Maghimo unta ang Cebu City LGU nga Housing Authority aron pagsulbad sa illegal settler issue. Ang ciudad muhimo sa low rise building unya paabangon sila base sa ilang income. Diri sa NYC Housing ang abang sa nagpuyo base man sa ilang sweldo of 30% apil nang tubig, heating. Adunay cut off nga kung ang kita mulapas sa $50K they have six months to move out or evicted, kay dili na sila pobre, As stipulated in the signed contract to make room, for the waiting list is very long.

SleMarKen

November 4th, 2009, 05:20 AM

What schools in Cebu have a full-sized oval track and field? Sacred Heart School Canduman campus recently completed their brand new facility. I'm really impressed. I can't estimate though if it's the same size as Cebu City Sports Complex' oval track. :cool:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7973/sacheartcand102909b.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3761/sacheartcand102909c.jpg

SleMarKen

November 4th, 2009, 06:12 AM

more of CEBU Nights

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9261/skylinecebu103009u.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/333/skylinecebu103009q.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6743/skylinecebu103009w.jpg

AmbutLang

November 4th, 2009, 06:31 AM

more of CEBU Nights

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/333/skylinecebu103009q.jpg

Propose ni kang Mayor Tomas inig down payment SM sa SRP.

Eastern Dragon

November 4th, 2009, 06:59 AM

humba. labi ng medyo lata na ang karne. nya ang tambok pinakupsan daan.

pagkalami gyud.

bisdakincanada

November 4th, 2009, 07:24 AM

o! lami kaayo na ang humba nga pinakupsan daan!

bisayaKID

November 4th, 2009, 07:42 AM

ni agi kos Terranova (sm northwing) last week, kita kog mga mannequin pang lalaki so di na siya pambabay lang, naa nasad silay panlalaki

gtjr

November 4th, 2009, 07:53 AM

Yep. Brownout sa mall even before niopen, and ang ilang generators kay sige pod ug fail. Luoy kaayo ang department store kay murag katunga or 1/4 ra ba kaha to sa mga suga ang naniga. Patay pod ang ilang escalators didto. Kibaw g'yud ko nga naa'y something weird nahitabo kay pagsulod palang nako sa mall, nakabati na ko ug lain. Nangutana ko sa mga guards, mga tindera ug tenants, lahi-lahi ang tubag. Short circuit daw. Observance daw sa International Day of Climate Change. Ana pa to ang isa ka tenant nga may pag nanira nalang daw ang SM kay init g'yud kaayo. To quote her, nawong lang g'yud ug kwarta ang SM, kay kung ang Ayala daw, more than 30 minutes na ang brownout, magclose temporarily.

So after that, nibalhin ko sa Ayala, and although bugnaw, kabantay ko nga saba kay gaandar ang mga generators. So basig tungod g'yud to sa observance sa International Day of Climate Change? Or ga-brownout sa Mabolo-Bo. Luz? Hmmmm.

naay naguba diha sa naga kanang planta sa salcon mao na nakuwang kuryente sa whole island of cebu mao na rotation ang brownout

diehardbisdak

November 4th, 2009, 09:27 AM

^^ Cebu's HUMBA!

flickr pic by @edible
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2111/2160483921_9e4647deab.jpg

RonnieR

November 4th, 2009, 09:45 AM

here's a few. but i'm still sorting the pictures and i might post them at the
Ahmedabad BRTS Thread and the main Bus Rapid Transit Thread in the
Philippines Infrastructure Thread.

if you're interested, you might want to see also the ahmedabad BRT website
at http://ahmedabadbrts.com. they had their inauguration last. oct. 14.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/pvillarete/Ahmenabad-BRT/IMG_3187.jpg

With this type of barrier, this will address the problem on illegal use of BRT lane. :) Nice photos.

dive-cebu

November 4th, 2009, 09:55 AM

^^ but what's that indian guy doing inside the BRT lane? (not sir paul)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 4th, 2009, 09:55 AM

^^

i guess BRT worker siguro who has friends over at the other side...hehe

With this type of barrier, this will address the problem on illegal use of BRT lane. :) Nice photos.

it sure does. ;)

RonnieR

November 4th, 2009, 09:58 AM

My few photos of Cebu during my short trip during UNDAS holiday. I have photos on Cebu airport in Mactan Airport thread. Again, I enjoyed my short trip to Cebu...the idea of buying a condo in the city sounds great :)

One of the beautiful streets in Cebu - it looks like an International Avenue with all those flags.
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC05751.jpg

In Brunei, they call these as "water houses" although they're bigger than these ones.
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC05749.jpg

Sayang talaga ang mga lamp posts - even if there's a pending case, why don't the cities of Cebu and Mandaue lit them??? para magamit rather than ganyan na lang.
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC05745.jpg

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC05753.jpg

The Sheraton - open na pala to.
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC05757.jpg

I saw this on the way to SM, well, illegal sidewalk - use BF's strong policy hehehe.
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC05756.jpg

Nice SM exhibits
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC05760.jpg

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC05761.jpg

Northwing
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC05762.jpg

The stupid pedicab driver is driving towards us (counter flow). We traveled so fast. Luckily, the taxi driver immediately change lane and we did not hit them.
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC05754.jpg

flyover
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC05748.jpg

Guys, we passed a road in front of SM with lots of potholes. Yung may Benedicto building. I can't see a street name. I hope DPWH will fix it.

Daghang Salamat. :) :)

dive-cebu

November 4th, 2009, 09:59 AM

^^ thanks for the photos bai, correction lang, the soon to open hotel near SM is officially named, Radisson Hotel.

dive-cebu

November 4th, 2009, 10:03 AM

@post #846

it is. it's the 1st Radisson Hotel in the country, to be followed by the 1 currently constructed near SM MOA

RonnieR

November 4th, 2009, 10:03 AM

^^ thanks for the photos bai, correction lang, the soon to open hotel near SM is officially named, Radisson Hotel.

ah okay, thanks for the info. It's Radisson, cool.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 4th, 2009, 10:07 AM

Sleepwalker

November 4th, 2009, 10:10 AM

those are illegal settlers. SM management has already paid in advance to the city for it to act urgently for the road improvements and beautification leading to SM.

Any update on this? Mora og mao ra man gihapon og dagway na nga karsada, since last year.... :)

wise_zech

November 4th, 2009, 10:14 AM

ah okay, thanks for the info. It's Radisson, cool.

thanks for sharing photos bai Ronnier.....

RonnieR

November 4th, 2009, 10:25 AM

^^ welcome wise zech

ironically, that's the United Nations Avenue....

those are illegal settlers. SM management has already paid in advance to the city for it to act urgently for the road improvements and beautification leading to SM.

UN Avenue, didn't know this.....Did you notice na dapat lakihan siguro ang mga street name signage sa city..from afar, dapat makikita na. :) suggestion lang.

Yes, of all streets, I don't know why the taxi driver chose that road. I hated it kasi bako bako ang daan. I even scolded him why he passed that road!

Anyway, here's about Radisson Manila Bay
out of curiosity, it lead me into googling this.

link: http://www.radisson.com/hotels/ph/manila/13448

link http://www.radisson.com/hotels/phlmabc

location in one of those buildings :)

http://smbaycity.googlepages.com/map.JPG/map-full;init:.JPG

just found this on the net... ano ba yung mga ibang bldgs na naka lagay diyan mga proposal bldgs ba itong mga ito? tapos yung may nakalagay na arrow e yun yung site ng Sea Residences...

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 4th, 2009, 10:30 AM

Any update on this? Mora og mao ra man gihapon og dagway na nga karsada, since last year.... :)

na mao sad na akong pangutana bai @sleep... ambot kung natagad ba.

@sir ron. right! street names should be more bigger and visible na talaga so that tourists won't be confused and end up being lost na. tourist destination pa naman ang cebu. ;)

RonnieR

November 4th, 2009, 10:31 AM

not necessarily like this n Manila baka ayaw niyo...i mean yung malalaking street name. Suggestion lang :)
from google
http://www.poolpeter.com/gallery/mixed/Pedrogil_resize.jpg

or like this in Singapore
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Orchard_Road_street_sign_-_Singapore_(gabbe).jpg/800px-Orchard_Road_street_sign_-_Singapore_(gabbe).jpg

zidlakan

November 4th, 2009, 10:32 AM

^^ but what's that indian guy doing inside the BRT lane? (not sir paul)

he's a "traffic enforcer" :D and they usually carry sticks. ako lang binisay-on
kay basin maka-ofend ta pero, aguroy na lang, pagkasalawayun ning mga indian
oi! haras kaayo magpadagan ug sakyanan makuyawan gud ko mulabang. unya
hasta jung sabaa kay sige lang ug busina kay mopalusot jud di mo tuman ug
linya! mabungol gud ka sa busina kay permanente jud na sila ga pislet sa busi-
na basta ga drive.

mao pud na ang kalainan sa delhi BRT ug sa ahmedabad BRT, why the laster is
more successful, while the former is full of criticism. first of all, angay ninyong
mahibaw-an nga ang ilang set-up didto lahi - independent and police sa local
government. so sa ahmedabad, the police supports the project, so ma enforce
and BRT lanes. sa delhi, wa'y pakialam ang police so minibus, tourist bus, even
private vehicles, usahay hasta kabaw, mosud sa BRT lanes, ang mga tawo,
manglabang bisan asa, etc., etc.

i will expect similar problems in cebu once the BRT is implemented pero i told
the mayor this morning, if they can do it in india, we certainly can do it!
biliv jud ko sa india, i'm still trying to sort out my delhi BRT photos kay di ko
gusto mo post ug something nga maka offend nya nila.

but in principle, delhi BRT works baya, naa lang jud kinahanglan adjustment
kay nakuwangan sa advocacy before the project was implemented. that's
why we are so concerned with advocacy ...

bakasaurus

November 4th, 2009, 10:35 AM

Nice photos there bai Ronnie.

Hope to see SM's masterplan for their property in SRP soon!

zubuwood

November 4th, 2009, 10:35 AM

bai, sorry kung mawad-an mo'g business, pero nindot ang plano sa waterfront! tingali'g daghang mga tourists ang ni reklamo nga ang waterfront hotel kay wala jd'y body of water duol niya except sa pond. hehe

dako kaayo nga yuta ang ilang paliton! from TESDA all the way to grand con! ngiga ana oi! hopefully, kung madayon man gani, dili mo malugi.

unsa ang inyong business? kanang lumber yard? sige biya ko ug palit dira ug supplies katong naa koy project sa crossroads! heheh or pipeline? naa pa ba ang pipeline? nindot biya i-hangout didto.

YEs bai you are right about the Hardware business.. murag maglisod man og palit ang waterfront kai puro man mga kwartahan ang nagpuyo diha like beside our business is the owner of LA NUEVA supermarket, and one other family is the owner of COLONADE MALL. pero ganahan ko sa concept sa waterfront. :nuts:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 4th, 2009, 10:38 AM

not necessarily like this baka ayaw niyo...i mean yung malalaking street name. Suggestion lang :)

actually nice suggestion @sir ron. nakapasyal ako dyan sa baywalk and i like those street name boxes hanging in the traffic lights. its cool! ;)

Eastern Dragon

November 4th, 2009, 10:45 AM

lami kaayo bisan makadaot sa kasing kasing.
pero mamatay man ta tanan, hala humba ug lechon pa day.

Eastern Dragon

November 4th, 2009, 10:55 AM

will be flying back to cebu in two weeks or so.

humba ug lechon na sad.

zidlakan

November 4th, 2009, 11:03 AM

will be flying back to cebu in two weeks or so.

humba ug lechon na sad.

pag-andam lang ug LIPITOR bay, kanang 80 mg :D

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 4th, 2009, 11:06 AM

^^
:lol::lol::lol::D:D:hahaha::rofl:

i know that! ;):D:lol:

although only 25% of cholesterol is found in food....:D

leylander

November 4th, 2009, 11:19 AM

^^
:lol::lol::lol::D:D:hahaha::rofl:

i know that! ;):D:lol:

although only 25% of cholesterol is found in food....:D

kaalamon aning anjobox oi. touch ko be. hehehe. unsa diay nang lipitor anjobox? hehe

federalist

November 4th, 2009, 11:22 AM

avocado has cholesterol too... but good cholesterol.

Sinjin P.

November 4th, 2009, 11:55 AM

ni agi kos Terranova (sm northwing) last week, kita kog mga mannequin pang lalaki so di na siya pambabay lang, naa nasad silay panlalaki

Yeah, murag last month pa na. Interesting pod ilang mga baligya didto.

Zuburbia

November 4th, 2009, 12:02 PM

Avocado has fats but not cholesterol...cholesterol kay naa ra na makuha sa mga meat products and eggs...

Eastern Dragon

November 4th, 2009, 12:07 PM

pag-andam lang ug LIPITOR bay, kanang 80 mg :D

:lol::lol::lol:. dili pa ko ganahan unta pero ingun sa ako check up borderline high blood pressure nako. :lol:

atay oi.

exercise na sad ta balik ani. pagamay sa tiyan.

federalist

November 4th, 2009, 12:08 PM

naay cholesterol ang avocado bai ug naa pa sad toy usa gani kalimot lang ko. apple or carrots man siguro to. murag di \gani ko katoo pero naa an sa libro.

Eastern Dragon

November 4th, 2009, 12:09 PM

i remember grabe kataas kuno ng avocado ug durian. makahigh blood pero lami man gihapon.

naa sa guidili ang lami.

slimer

November 4th, 2009, 01:57 PM

:lol::lol::lol:. dili pa ko ganahan unta pero ingun sa ako check up borderline high blood pressure nako. :lol:

atay oi.

exercise na sad ta balik ani. pagamay sa tiyan.

sir don't worry, ang maka-higblood, kanang wa ta'y makaon!:lol:

twIco

November 4th, 2009, 02:09 PM

^^wahahah...mao jud makasapot og maka high blood kung wa tay makaon..eehehe:lol:

by the way naa nay updates regarding BRT???

zidlakan

November 4th, 2009, 02:42 PM

^^wahahah...mao jud makasapot og maka high blood kung wa tay makaon..eehehe:lol:

by the way naa nay updates regarding BRT???

nov. 7 - 8, 2009, BRT advocacy campaign ... please see Samahan Thread.

in the meantime, here's a nice site to visit and browse around ...

a list of chinese BRTs and their comparative information, all in one site!

http://www.chinabrt.org/defaulten.aspx

twIco

November 4th, 2009, 02:44 PM

^^thnks

twIco

November 4th, 2009, 02:55 PM

musta naman ang Talisay City Fish Port???dapit ra raba na sa SRP...

SleMarKen

November 4th, 2009, 03:47 PM

Waterfront

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6558/waterfront103009bt.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6062/waterfront103009a.jpg

PIONEER
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1130/pioneer102009.jpg

CBP
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5113/cbp102009.jpg

Finally, nana gyud silay window celeaner, i hope makat on sad ang Keppel...
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6495/alalafgu102909a.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4632/alalafgu102909b.jpg

Ex!lE

November 4th, 2009, 03:51 PM

^ mas kuyaw paman na sa edge coaster. lol

Sky Harbor

November 4th, 2009, 04:10 PM

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diehardbisdak

November 4th, 2009, 04:52 PM

diehardbisdak

November 4th, 2009, 05:29 PM

^ @sinj, i wonder if all hi-end stores at the northwing are doing well...

Sinjin P.

November 4th, 2009, 06:06 PM

^ I think so. Isa lang akong nakit-an nga murag wala pa g'yud kaayo'y following: Salsa

bisdakincanada

November 4th, 2009, 07:25 PM

Lami kaayo ang humba @Diehard!

bisdakincanada

November 4th, 2009, 07:37 PM

YEs bai you are right about the Hardware business.. murag maglisod man og palit ang waterfront kai puro man mga kwartahan ang nagpuyo diha like beside our business is the owner of LA NUEVA supermarket, and one other family is the owner of COLONADE MALL. pero ganahan ko sa concept sa waterfront. :nuts:
Bitaw. Mga kwartahan bitaw kaayo ang namuyo dira dapita. Unya naa pa jd simbahan dira dapita sa?

Maayo unta mosugot.

LordCarnal

November 4th, 2009, 07:51 PM

^ kakuyaw sa trabaho sa cleaner oy...i hope gi-insured na siya sa Ayala Life...LOL! ...at first, abi nako automatic ang gisakyan..nga just a push of a button, pwede i-up, down, left and right...hheheh!

Mas hi-tech ang sa Keppel kay ang ilang window cleaner nagsakay ug murag elevator.. hehe.. I mean the cleaner rides on a platform with pulleys that are driven by motors from above, so push button siya..

As for Crown Regency Hotel, I think push button pod ang platform for the window cleaners.

.:.

LordCarnal

November 4th, 2009, 07:54 PM

Pino

- lami pod ilang buffet, hehe..

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/pino_raw01.jpg

AmbutLang

November 4th, 2009, 08:53 PM

YEs bai you are right about the Hardware business.. murag maglisod man og palit ang waterfront kai puro man mga kwartahan ang nagpuyo diha like beside our business is the owner of LA NUEVA supermarket, and one other family is the owner of COLONADE MALL. pero ganahan ko sa concept sa waterfront. :nuts:

Bai, wa mantingali nga dili ma deal. Basta the price is right or himoun partner by percentage ba hinuon. The waterfront will just have to sweetened the deal a bit more. :) Mo atras mangali ang billionario dri sa US kung paliton iyang subsidiary basta the deal is right. :cheers:

AmbutLang

November 4th, 2009, 09:03 PM

AmbutLang

November 4th, 2009, 09:11 PM

Jarenz

November 4th, 2009, 11:14 PM

^ ang Pond F (sakto ba ko?)...wala ba sila plano nga tabunan na...or, ing-ana na lang gyud na? ...kung mag-uwan og kusog, dili ba na ma-awas na ang tubig diha or, deretso sa dagat?

Actually, naa naay plan on this area and part of the SRP Masterplan...
Pero bawal pa i-divulge...

Ako masulti sa plano... Great!

AmbutLang

November 5th, 2009, 01:08 AM

Actually, naa naay plan on this area and part of the SRP Masterplan...
Pero bawal pa i-divulge...

Ako masulti sa plano... Great!

Di bana himuon Club marina sa mga naay daghan wawart para sa ilang liesure boats. Maayo kaayo na para kung naay bagyo dli kaayo bawod ug dli na kinahanglan e baradero ang mga liesure boats. :cheers: Unya naa unya pud SCC Cebu liesure boat. :nuts: :banana:

mottymot_007

November 5th, 2009, 03:50 AM

ako sad. mag balik2x ko sa SSC kay to be updated. bisan ug canadian citizen na kay dakong bisdak man jd gihapon ko oi! heheh

i'll give you information unya bai about sa mga kalagaan sa cebu! :cheers2:

di gyud mawala ang atong dugong bisdak bai bisan asa pang dapita kita dal-on sa kapalaran :lol:

leylander

November 5th, 2009, 03:55 AM

nice read: http://www.underthetropicsun.com/2008/09/manila-vs-cebu-no-contest/comment-page-1/

technoblaze

November 5th, 2009, 04:28 AM

Mactan-Mandaue Bridge
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3131/13645120477813243816181.jpg

Marcelo Fernan Bridge
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5156/13645120477985248116181.jpg

Cebu International Port
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8296/dsc00230os.jpg

Mandaue Reclamation
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9467/dsc00243d.jpg

Amisa
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1316/dsc01895q.jpg

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 5th, 2009, 04:42 AM

kaalamon aning anjobox oi. touch ko be. hehehe. unsa diay nang lipitor anjobox? hehe

hahaha....asa man ka mutouch uroy! hahaha...

OT: obvious ba na graduate ta'g corso na lisod makasulod og trabaho! :lol::lol::lol:
lipitor para na mu-mubo ang imong BAD cholesterol level ley...taas siguro ka'y LDL (BAD cholesterol) sa? hahaha... i-gym lang na uy! :lol::lol::D

mottymot_007

November 5th, 2009, 05:02 AM

Queen City of the South

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg197/mottymot_007/fuentesunset.png

lipitor: lipid terminator :lol:

technoblaze

November 5th, 2009, 05:38 AM

An article on yesterday's newspaper
I took the photo

Sunstar Cebu
Nov. 3, 2009

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/SRP/PBx030025.jpg

almost like the tenements in Smokey Mountain housing project??
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3125193560_8bfc823c78.jpg

SleMarKen

November 5th, 2009, 06:37 AM

Mas hi-tech ang sa Keppel kay ang ilang window cleaner nagsakay ug murag elevator.. hehe.. I mean the cleaner rides on a platform with pulleys that are driven by motors from above, so push button siya..

As for Crown Regency Hotel, I think push button pod ang platform for the window cleaners.

.:.

naguba na tingali ang high-tech sa Keppel @nold kay awa ra gud nang itsura sa Keppel, mura nag batang yagit, imat kaayog itsura :lol:

Window Cleaners in da City

Lexmark
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2721/windowwasherz092409f.jpg

IT Building
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2941/windowwasherz092409c.jpg

Parklane
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1489/windowwasherz092409b.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2729/windowwasherz092409a.jpg

Radisson (nag paint na sila)
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3323/windowwasherz092409d.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=623368&page=93

Ayala FGU
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6495/alalafgu102909a.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4632/alalafgu102909b.jpg

Crown Regency
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2051/crwindowcleanerb.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3397/crwindowcleaner.jpg

SleMarKen

November 5th, 2009, 07:47 AM

slimer

November 5th, 2009, 07:48 AM

Mangaon ta!

Pier One - 11.04.09

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8726/pier1u.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/pier1u.jpg/)

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4047/pier2.jpg (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/pier2.jpg/)

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2393/pier3.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/pier3.jpg/)

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9947/pier4.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/pier4.jpg/)

slimer

November 5th, 2009, 07:57 AM

pina-edge coaster ta to ang sa Crown Regency sa? hehehe...

anyway...

NRA - 11.04.09

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8206/nra1.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/nra1.jpg/)

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5801/nra2.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/nra2.jpg/)

CICC

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2937/cicc1.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/cicc1.jpg/)

diehardbisdak

November 5th, 2009, 08:26 AM

^ naglaway ko's baked scallops... yum yum!

leylander

November 5th, 2009, 08:38 AM

i think i heard somewhere that the city council just junked LRT. is this true?

update: tinuod gyud diay. lol

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/council-junks-lrt-cites-flaws

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 5th, 2009, 08:51 AM

^^
super doper true bai @ley....asa man diay ka ron du? ;)

leylander

November 5th, 2009, 08:54 AM

^^
super doper true bai @ley....asa man diay ka ron du? ;)

hahaah. kabaws da! nauwahi lang gani kos balita. lol. paapilon kuno ka sa meeting ni slerz ugma. check samahan. hehe

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 5th, 2009, 09:00 AM

^^
lagi uy...ahak....gisendan tika PM...sekreto nato para dili makahibalo si slerz! :lol::lol::lol::D

Zuburbia

November 5th, 2009, 09:14 AM

naay cholesterol ang avocado bai ug naa pa sad toy usa gani kalimot lang ko. apple or carrots man siguro to. murag di \gani ko katoo pero naa an sa libro.

OT:

all plant base food, fruits and vegetables are all zero in cholesterol..the source of cholesterol is from meats including fish,and also Milk, eggs, and other products containing animal fat...fats that we can get from plants are not cholesterol...that is why most vegetarians believe that humans do not need meat to source out cholesterol, cause we as humans are also meat and that means we naturally produce cholesterol within our body... mao na kung mokaon pa ta og meat mosamot pa kadaghan atong cholesterol... karong panahona nga grabe na kaayo mangaonay og karne, mao daghan taw sayo nangamatay tungod sa highblood og heart attack...hehe! :)

AmbutLang

November 5th, 2009, 09:14 AM

^^
lagi uy...ahak....gisendan tika PM...sekreto nato para dili makahibalo si slerz! :lol::lol::lol::D

AYAW SABA ARON DILI KADUNGUG SI SLERZ. :lol::lol::lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 5th, 2009, 09:17 AM

^^
:lol::lol::D:colgate::hahaha::hahaha:

all plant base food, fruits and vegetables are all zero in cholesterol..the source of cholesterol is from meats including fish,and also Milk, eggs, and other products containing animal fat...fats that we can get from plants and fruits are not cholesterol...that is why most vegetarians believe that humans doesnt need meat to source out cholesterol, cause we as humans are also meat and that means we naturally produce cholesterol within our body...:)

wow! :applause::applause:

biliba nako nimo bai @randy uy! architect pa doctor pa gyud! :bowtie::bowtie:

right 75% of cholesterol is produce in the body. only 25% is found in food.

maong samtang bata pa, pasingot gyud og taman! :lol::lol::D

rustyboi

November 5th, 2009, 09:19 AM

Actually, base sa akong nahibaw an, Ang Fililvest is from that lot near the bridge from Taisay upto the center. The waterfront area.

That's what I initally thought. I was wondering kay Mayor Tomas did a presentation thru a projector and it shows mao na ang position sa Filinvest. The right side of it was shown (Filinvest lot), putol man ang picture sa newspaper gud.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 5th, 2009, 09:20 AM

ahh so meaning filinvest's land is vertical and not horizontal...?

SleMarKen

November 5th, 2009, 09:23 AM

^^
lagi uy...ahak....gisendan tika PM...sekreto nato para dili makahibalo si slerz! :lol::lol::lol::D

Naa man gyuy maliki ang agtang ani ron... :bash:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 5th, 2009, 09:28 AM

^^
:lol::lol::D:D:hahaha::hahaha:

bai slerz kahibalo diay ka sa akong gi-PM ni ley?! grabeha'g powers gud! :lol::D:colgate::hahaha:

Zuburbia

November 5th, 2009, 09:30 AM

^^
:lol::lol::D:colgate::hahaha::hahaha:

wow! :applause::applause:

biliba nako nimo bai @randy uy! architect pa doctor pa gyud! :bowtie::bowtie:

right 75% of cholesterol is produce in the body. only 25% is found in food.

maong samtang bata pa, pasingot gyud og taman! :lol::lol::D

^^
hahaha! conscious and aware lang gyud ko ana kay kaliwat sa side sa akong mama grabe mangaunay og karne particularly humba and litson.. kung naa okasyon sa amo relatives mother side puro gyud na karne ang sud-an nya humba gyud nga pinalutaw sa mantika..hehe! mao kasagaran sa ako mother side sayo nangamatay tungod sa hi-blood/heart attack karon nadungaggan pa gyud og sakit nga diabetes... nya i-compare nako sa ako father side sa bohol nga kasagaran utan gyud og tinuwa, inun-unan nga isda and seafoods ang kinaham, tag-as gyud kaayog kinabuhi...ako lola sa tuhod (mother sa ako papa) namatay 110 ang edad kay sa bukid sa amo sa bohol panagsa ra gyud sila kakaon og karne labi na ang baboy...utan og isda gyud sila kasagaran...:)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 5th, 2009, 09:35 AM

^^

wow! grabeha gud age sa imong lola bai...110?! grabe! pang-guiness! :D

kuyawa pud og hilig sa imong mother side uy. makurat man pud ta ana! humba or litson gyud! hilig pa gyud og mantikaon! hahaha... unsa pa? himarat pa gyud?! na samot! :lol::lol::D:D

lisod na kaayo i-healthy living karon ay.... tsk tsk...

leylander

November 5th, 2009, 09:36 AM

^^grabeha sad anang sayo nangamatay oi. hehe. anyways, thanks for the info sir @zub and sir @anjobox. i learned something today. hehe

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 5th, 2009, 09:43 AM

^^
:lol::lol::D:colgate:

sir gud tawon... tsk tsk tsk...:lol::lol::D

Zuburbia

November 5th, 2009, 09:44 AM

^^
char! :lol: :lol:

Zuburbia

November 5th, 2009, 09:59 AM

kinsay mo-adto og motambay sa Visayan music festival ugma sa family park..2 days na nga event....

Zuburbia

November 5th, 2009, 10:01 AM

Visayan Music Festival 09 spacerBuy Tickets
Friday November 6, 2009 - Sunday November 8, 2009 from 6:00pm - 6:00am
The Family Park

Talamban
Cebu City, Central Visayas 6000 Get Directions
70 BANDS. 2 STAGES. 2 DAYS. THE VISAYAN MUSIC FESTIVAL 09 on NOV 6-7 @ THE FAMILY PARK, CEBU!

*TICKETS:

- Ticket pass for 2 days: PhP 150 at the venue.
- Pre-sell tickets: Php 100, On sale now in AYALA CENTER CEBU at the Concierge.

*Urbandub, Up Dharma Down, Radioactive Sago Project, Dice & K9, Powerspoonz, Sheila and the Insects, Junior Kilat, The Line Divides, Sleepwalk Circus and Visayas Hottest bands!

Ticket Info: Pre sell Tickets @ Php 100.00 get you ins for 2 days!

SleMarKen

November 5th, 2009, 10:05 AM

^^

Bitaw! Abog pa jd kaayo! Katong pag balik nako kay ni adto kos SM unya ni agi ang jeep sa kanang dalan nga dili paved, tunga-tunga sa squatters area. Grabe kaayo ka abog! Naguba akong beauty! he he

with this almost completed and robi NRA coming, maayo sad unta ug ma relocate na ang mga squatters sa NRA... Its really sad, I have tried to pass there from SM... naay stagnant greenish nga tubig sa ilahang tugkaran... unpaved dusty roads...

Road condition infront of SM City Cebu from former White Gold mall...AsoF yesterday...

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1922/smfront11409a.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3081/smfront11409b.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4387/smfront11409c.jpg

Sa mga taga City Hall, agi sad tawn mog panagsa diring dapita para maka hibaw mo sa sitwasyon. Mas nindot pang dan sa bukid. Agi anan raba gyud na dihang dapita sa mga jeepneys gikan sa south...:ohno::bash:

Zuburbia

November 5th, 2009, 10:13 AM

^^
bitaw pait na kayo nang dalana diha..ang kana pong dalan sa north side sa SM kay grabeh napod kaayo kaabog wa gyud na-aspalto, kanag dalan before moliko padong makro..grabehhh na kaguba...mga taga cityhall atimana pod intawn ninyo..plssss.....

diehardbisdak

November 5th, 2009, 10:39 AM

diehardbisdak

November 5th, 2009, 10:44 AM

^^ location: Family Park, Talamban, Cebu City

flickr pic by @Anjo's Point by Michol Sanchez
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3240/3148703707_0670e08ec6.jpg

diehardbisdak

November 5th, 2009, 10:50 AM

...i wish i can get a copy of this book!

*************

flickr pic by @aldrin_magnaye17
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2800/4077100734_dd735f346e_b.jpg

leylander

November 5th, 2009, 10:58 AM

...i wish i can get a copy of this book!

*************

flickr pic by @aldrin_magnaye17
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2800/4077100734_dd735f346e_b.jpg

ang MAYETTE Q. TABADA wala na lang gyud gi one-line. hehehe. sorry. mao gyud nkita dayon nako. ahha

Sky Harbor

November 5th, 2009, 11:12 AM

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1922/smfront11409a.jpg

When I saw this picture, I thought I was looking at Mogadishu. :ohno:

SleMarKen

November 5th, 2009, 11:25 AM

^^yup, but don't worry. We will keep on reminding our public officicals hree;)

---------------------------------------------------

Plaza Independencia RESTORATION
@the back portion of Fort San Pedro

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4899/plazaindeprest110409e.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9449/plazaindeprest110409d.jpg

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4072/plazaindeprest110409b.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2603/plazaindeprest110409c.jpg

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4373/plazaindeprest110409a.jpg

leylander

November 5th, 2009, 11:29 AM

SleMarKen

November 5th, 2009, 11:30 AM

^^hmmm, murag wala man bai @Ley, pero ako i check basig naa pa diay dri sa akong mga files...:)

twIco

November 5th, 2009, 11:37 AM

^^btw musta naman to ang tunnel??padulong na cla mahuman??
ehehe...i've heard na daghan daw clang nakit-an during their excavation right?:)

SleMarKen

November 5th, 2009, 11:40 AM

^^btw musta naman to ang tunnel??padulong na cla mahuman??
ehehe...i've heard na daghan daw clang nakit-an during their excavation right?:)

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9523/tunnelplazaind.jpg

diehardbisdak

November 5th, 2009, 11:45 AM

^ ....why do they have to show their name and fu**ing face on the billboard? makahinumdum hinuon ko ni Mayor Ouano of Mandaue City...heheh!

twIco

November 5th, 2009, 12:01 PM

^^relax lang..ehehe..yaw ka high blood...

peace!!:)

by the way thanks for posting @sLeMarKen..

ambi nako igka december pa mahuman...nxt year pa diay..excited baya ko..

RonnieR

November 5th, 2009, 12:01 PM

Road condition infront of SM City Cebu from former White Gold mall...AsoF yesterday...

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1922/smfront11409a.jpg

This is it! The taxi driver passed this road.

lowellflores

November 5th, 2009, 12:06 PM

Bitaw ngano man gyud ibutang ila nawong diha, sos ibutang lang diha DPWH y man gyud ang nawong nila nag usik2 cla ug ink ana, Murag iyang kwarta ang gigamit sa pag construct sa tunnel.

hakz2007

November 5th, 2009, 12:50 PM

Road condition infront of SM City Cebu from former White Gold mall...AsoF yesterday...

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1922/smfront11409a.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3081/smfront11409b.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4387/smfront11409c.jpg

Sa mga taga City Hall, agi sad tawn mog panagsa diring dapita para maka hibaw mo sa sitwasyon. Mas nindot pang dan sa bukid. Agi anan raba gyud na dihang dapita sa mga jeepneys gikan sa south...:ohno::bash:

inaayos na ba ito as of this time?

slimer

November 5th, 2009, 01:40 PM

base sa panawagan ni @slerz, hindi pa...

if i remember correctly, @betro mentioned before that there is already a plan to clean this area (of illegal settlers). basin gituyo na para ma-discourage mga namuyo diha, pero sadly, di man sila madutlan ana. IMO lang.

slimer

November 5th, 2009, 01:45 PM

bai it's not baked. grilled na. honestly, the baked one is better!

marxman

November 5th, 2009, 01:51 PM

watcher09

November 5th, 2009, 02:05 PM

One of the best parts in Cebu!

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae303/watcher09/Cebu1.gif

gtjr

November 5th, 2009, 02:29 PM

kana pud gikan SM padung sa ihawan padong makro abog pud na hagbay ra na diha

Sinjin P.

November 5th, 2009, 02:35 PM

^ Ihawan ug iro?

zeos

November 5th, 2009, 02:40 PM

^^ oooh no! :ohno: wawa nman mga puppies

LordCarnal

November 5th, 2009, 02:41 PM

Nold, parehoson unta nila sa nakita nako sa katong twin tower sa World Trade Center nga ang window washer platform motuyuk sa building kay naay railings sa edges sa building unya naka harness pagyud ang mga tao ug ang ilang equipments naay higut aron walay mahugan sa glass rubber scrapers.

Naa pud dri nag high water pressure building washers, dili lang ang glass hasta pud ang building mismo sa kadlawon nang limpio. Abi namo naay salibo, nag spray man diay sa 30th floor. :nuts::lol:

Bai Fred, actually kasagaran sa mga new buildings naay railings for the window washer platform.

Some examples of the buildings are the WT-Pag-Ibig building in CBP, Crown Regency Hotel, Club Ultima (bag-o lang gitaod), ug uban pa , hehehe.

OT: Mu anhi ka ug pasko?

wise_zech

November 5th, 2009, 02:50 PM

^ Ihawan ug iro?

bai ihawan og iring..hahahah sorry OT...

Jimbu

November 5th, 2009, 02:59 PM

rustyboi

November 5th, 2009, 03:03 PM

gtjr

November 5th, 2009, 03:08 PM

gikan dinhi iskina moliko kas tuo nana tong abog nga dalan padong makro
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5606/image403.jpg

zubuwood

November 5th, 2009, 03:31 PM

ganahan ko sa CR dha sa PINO restaurant mura ka nasa kwarto.. classy kaayo :banana:

leylander

November 5th, 2009, 03:43 PM

yup. city pound na actually. and basically ang mga iro murag dili ihawon kundi sunogon.

AmbutLang

November 5th, 2009, 04:03 PM

bai ihawan og iring..hahahah sorry OT...

Ang Komidia dri sa NYC nga waa nay irin ug ilanga sa Canal street kai gihimong palaman sa siopao. Brisk kaayo ang negosyo kay daghan paman kaayo sa subway tracks nagdagan2x. Lalim ka 14 ka subway lines moagi dihang dapita. Mascots gud na sa Transit. toink :bash: :lol::lol::lol: :jk:

A iro nga giput to sleep sa city pound gipang pakio sa mga koreano kay part mana delikasy. usahay naay pinoy mo ambit sa Koreano. :nuts:

@Nold, dli ko kaoli pa, :bash: :cry:

AmbutLang

November 5th, 2009, 04:21 PM

Regarding the illegal settlers at the North Recla. Area... There was an article before, saying it's more expensive to take the illegal settlers out than to develop the land itself. that's why land owners don't take too much effort in getting rid of them. I think they're waiting for the local government to do it. And it's no surprise nothing has been done. Looks like it's in an irreparable state... Come on, it's been that way since mid-90's. :ohno:

10K ang kada familia sa illegal settler ang bayad sa pagpahawa or 1T kong naay mabahinan. Mao mana among nagasto didto sa yuta namo sa Bogo. ouch.Ang Baraggay as witness sa contract. :ohno: :cry:

Jimbu

November 5th, 2009, 05:14 PM

Gov't urged to spruce up 'tourism roads' (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/228117/govt-urged-spruce-tourism-roads)
November 5, 2009, 6:43pm

CEBU CITY — Citing the poor road conditions and eyesores by the roadsides, tourism stakeholders here are urging the city government here to repair and maintain roads leading to world-class resorts, hotels, and other tourist destinations.

South Korean National Tom Lee, who is a tourism consultant for international hotels, told Manila Bulletin investors have poured billions of pesos to build world-class resorts, especially in Mactan, to entice tourists to come to Cebu but roads leading to the properties are not well-kept and eyesores are visible along the highways.

"Dirty and damaged roads are major turn-offs and will leave negative impressions on tourists," said Lee, who has been coming to the country for the past 17 years.

For his part, National Association of Independent Travel Agencies (NAITAS) Chairman Emeritus Robert Lim Joseph said, during a news forum here Tuesday that dirty and damaged roads, with signs of poverty visible on roadsides, could discourage tourists from coming back.

"Roads are like veins, they connect straight to the destinations like veins connect to the heart. Now our roads are so full of cholesterol," said Joseph, as he urged Government to pump prime infrastructure development and include roads that lead to major tourist destinations.

Lee, meanwhile, said once tourists, who are likely investors, see these roads repaired and maintained, they will surely not have double thoughts in pouring in capital that could lead to job generation.

Both tourism players urged government officials to do away with alleged kickbacks in infrastructure projects so that the budget to be used in repairing and maintaining "tourism roads" can be doubled.

Hotel owners in the region, meanwhile, said the global financial crisis has no or little effect in the local tourist industry and that visitors, in fact, from such new markets as India and China, are flying in to see the country.

Sergio Lim, President of Mango Park Hotel said tourism is the savior of the economy and although stakeholders may have experienced a slowdown in business because of the global financial difficulties, they are looking forward to recovering within a year’s time.

Waterfront Cebu City Hotel General Manager Marco Protacio, who also heads the Hotel, Resorts, and Restaurant Association of Cebu, said the tourism industry is used to the crisis and players are keen on running their businesses as it is.

"The crisis won't stop us. We are okay and there's no need to panic," said Protacio.

Joseph said tourism players must look beyond the crisis and the year 2009. He said in order to survive, tourism players must think ahead and have a five to 10 year tourism plan.

"2009 is just 2009. We need to look beyond that," said Joseph. (Mars Mosqueda)

blueguy

November 5th, 2009, 05:18 PM

diehardbisdak

November 5th, 2009, 05:19 PM

^ words of the day: "BAD ROADS" heheh!

federalist

November 5th, 2009, 05:21 PM

OT:

all plant base food, fruits and vegetables are all zero in cholesterol..the source of cholesterol is from meats including fish,and also Milk, eggs, and other products containing animal fat...fats that we can get from plants are not cholesterol...that is why most vegetarians believe that humans do not need meat to source out cholesterol, cause we as humans are also meat and that means we naturally produce cholesterol within our body... mao na kung mokaon pa ta og meat mosamot pa kadaghan atong cholesterol... karong panahona nga grabe na kaayo mangaonay og karne, mao daghan taw sayo nangamatay tungod sa highblood og heart attack...hehe! :)

sorry to argue bai but avocado has cholesterol gyud. that is exemption from the sources. karemember ko sa review namo sa local board ug sa foreign exam nga review. actually duha na sila not just avocado. naa pa gani sa ako notes bai. confirmed na nga avocado has cholesterol in it.

btw, adios my beloved Cebu.

Sinjin P.

November 5th, 2009, 06:16 PM

guys wait lang....malapit na magbago ang area na yan....malapit na

Ay binili na ba ng SM ang lugar na 'yan? :D

SleMarKen

November 5th, 2009, 06:24 PM

guys wait lang....malapit na magbago ang area na yan....malapit na

sure? Is it because of SM's advanced payment of tax to the city?

dabert

November 5th, 2009, 06:47 PM

sure? Is it because of SM's advanced payment of tax to the city?

there was a news article before, i think last 2 months ago, that SM made an advance payment to the city provided that the city must evacuate the illegal settlers, rehabilitate the area, and repair the roads leading to SM, i think they were referring to the 3 parallel roads. I hope that would be it. :)

bisdakincanada

November 5th, 2009, 06:50 PM

bisdakincanada

November 5th, 2009, 06:59 PM

^ ....why do they have to show their name and fu**ing face on the billboard? makahinumdum hinuon ko ni Mayor Ouano of Mandaue City...heheh!

Bitaw ngano man gyud ibutang ila nawong diha, sos ibutang lang diha DPWH y man gyud ang nawong nila nag usik2 cla ug ink ana, Murag iyang kwarta ang gigamit sa pag construct sa tunnel.

Bitaw! Maglagot jd ko anang i-plastar nila ang ilang nawng unya mangangkon! Dili biya na ilang kwarta ang gigamit pag himo sa project! Kwarta na sa katawhan! Unya sa case ni Ebdane kay dako kaayo iyang dagway ug pangan. Mura'g parihas sa information about the project. :ohno:

bisdakincanada

November 5th, 2009, 07:02 PM

SUS KALAMI!

diehardbisdak

November 5th, 2009, 07:28 PM

...saon na lang! unsa pa ma'y bag-o sa Capitol...???? LOL!

************

Capitol warns SM on SRP deal
The Freeman
November 06, 2009 12:00 AM

CEBU, Philippines - Saying that if it does not want to end up like the Filinvest Land Inc. which now has a pending case before the Office of the Ombudsman-Visayas, the provincial government yesterday warned SM Properties that it should carefully review the contract it will sign with Cebu City for the sale of a portion of the South Road Properties.

“We welcome them. It will be good for everybody concerned. Ang amo lang they make sure to read carefully or they can take a copy of our complaints with the Ombudsman unsa among legal ug factual position,” said Capitol Consultant Rory Jon Sepulveda in a press conference at the governor’s office.

SM Properties had earlier proposed to purchase 30 hectares of the SRP at P2.7 billion.

Early last month, Governor Gwendolyn Garcia charged Mayor Tomas Osmeña, Vice Mayor Michael Rama and Cebu City council members and FLI vice chairman Andrew Gotianun Jr. for what she described as a “grossly disadvantageous” joint venture agreement between the city and the private land developer.

Garcia filed criminal and administrative complaints, and sought the preventive suspension of the respondent Cebu City officials.

In that complaint, the province alleged that FLI “acted and conspired” in a deal which was “greatly prejudicial to the interests of the City of Cebu”.

Sepulveda said that as stated in that complaint, SM should take note, among other reasons why it was filed, that private corporations cannot buy reclaimed lands owned by the government.

The city and FLI entered into a joint venture agreement to develop the 50-hectare portion of the 295-ha SRP. FLI has agreed to pay the city P25 billion for the reclaimed property, where an outright purchase of the first 10 hectares and the installment basis were agreed upon, the same with the profit-sharing scheme with the city.

The province questioned the “outright purchase” of the 10 hectares by FLI as it was without a sealed bidding.

Also, Garcia contended that the city government cannot sell reclaimed lots without the authority of Congress as stated by the Commonwealth Act No. 141.

Sepulveda said that they are “not discouraging” SM to purchase parcels of the SRP, but it should also take note of the legal procedures upon which FLI has failed to consider.

“We are not against SM, we welcome them. Our unsolicited advice; they should carefully review the situation—the joint venture ordinance, the Supreme Court pronouncement on reclaimed properties. We’re not discouraging them, we are helping them to ensure di mo-violate the same thing we raised against FLI,” he said. — Liv G. Campo/BRP (THE FREEMAN)

source: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=520887&publicationSubCategoryId=107

leylander

November 5th, 2009, 07:41 PM

makalagot gyud. mao ra. hehehe.

AmbutLang

November 5th, 2009, 07:51 PM

Kinahanglan mapildi sa si Gwen aron mahilum. Waa'y lain lingaw. Ayoha nang mga hospital sa probensya aron dili na manganhi sa ciudad ang taga Bogo o taga Santander. Mugasto pa sa pliti ang mga pobre unya mangita pa asa mopuyo o abot kay ang ilang masakiton naa pa sa V. Sotto Hospital. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Imbis mutabang para sa mga sugbohanon, nanglawgaw nahinuon. Ang gaba dili raba magsaba. :nono:

diehardbisdak

November 5th, 2009, 07:54 PM

^^ bisan pa'g mapildi bai...she can file a case whenever she wants to! ...as long as na-a si Tomas sa City Hall or in any government office, dili gyud na muhilom! ...pwerte nang lawma ang ilang pag-away...personala'y na gud!

...usa ra gyu'y sinugdanan aning tanan, ang iresponsableng comment ni Vice Mayor Rama: "...dawat limpyo ang Capitol!"

...and i suspect, this took a toll on Tomas's health! :ohno:

kenken94

November 6th, 2009, 12:55 AM

Murag napungot najud ko aning Gwen ay>(....... nindot na kaayo iinsulto sa iyang atubangan.:guns1: Karon kalang ig eleksyon......... watch out for me. hahahaha!:naughty:

kenken94

November 6th, 2009, 12:58 AM

ipareclaim na tawn na ang pond diha......... sayang kaayo ang additional space nga mahatag ana.......

ommel

November 6th, 2009, 01:13 AM

Hello to all SSC Cebu Forumers. Mga bai, salamat kaayo sa mga updates, infos, rumors ug sa mga pictures..

Gimingaw na kaayo ko sa Cebu, dugay na kaayo wa kauli.

Capitol warns SM on SRP deal....

Comment lang ko.

Lawgawa gyud aning klaseha nga mga public servant oy, makahadlok man ni sa mga investors. Hope dili na lang sila mag public servant. Pagkadaghan pa gyud untang atimanon sa probinsya nganong diri man gyud manghilabot sa city.

Like kining mga nagtrabaho sa katubhan didto sa Norte, pwerteng gagmaya intawon sa sweldo(less than Php50/day, 2005 ni nga figure ha) nya init pa gyud kaayo. Ako lang ni gi relate kay kanang mga Sepulveda usa na sa mga tag-iya ug katubhan sa Norte nya grabe kaayo ilang pagbabag/panglawgaw(correct me if im wrong) anang SRP nga unta daku man kaayo ng tabang para sa tanang Sugboanon/Pinoy. Bisan na lang unta katong mga nagtrabaho sa katubhan makatrabaho diha sa construction sa SRP, dako na kaayong tabang sa inadlawng panginabuhi...

By the way, gikan diay ko sa Norte nya nibalhin akong ginikanan sa Mandaue dugay na mao kahibawo ko unsa kalisod didto sa probinsiya.

Have a nice day sa tanan.

Eastern Dragon

November 6th, 2009, 02:49 AM

kaning mga garcia, they think that they own cebu.

detrimental to the progress of cebu as a whole man gyud ning gibuhat sa province.

mga oplok gyud.

rustyboi

November 6th, 2009, 03:25 AM

It would have been okay, but she should start with the woman in the mirror. Balili..... does it ring a bell? :lol: hypocrite. :ohno:

SleMarKen

November 6th, 2009, 03:56 AM

That's what I initally thought. I was wondering kay Mayor Tomas did a presentation thru a projector and it shows mao na ang position sa Filinvest. The right side of it was shown (Filinvest lot), putol man ang picture sa newspaper gud.

ah, mao man kaha ang gipakita @bai Rest, mao tingali na siguro gyud...hehe

blueguy

November 6th, 2009, 04:15 AM

Sleepwalker

November 6th, 2009, 04:39 AM

^^There is no other reason behind Capitol's noise about SRP deals, except personal vendetta.

They are just good in blabbering with no substance...The good thing is that investors have more trust in the city administration than with some of the capitol official.

Anyway, few months more to go and election na pud.

marxman

November 6th, 2009, 04:46 AM

kalami ba i.sabotage anang province oi... kani pd c tomas iya pd g.allow na m.abot sa in.ana na sitwasyon.

if only ang cebu as a whole ilang unang huna2x.on...

hahay! saonz!

"May pa matay, mungi muktot mga putot, may pa matay, simbako lang..."

Sleepwalker

November 6th, 2009, 04:58 AM

Demalas lang gud kaayo tang mga Pinoy no...99% of our country is infested with the worst kind of parasite - the politicians....:ohno:

Naa na unta kita'y economic momentum karon, pero di gihapon smooth kay pwerte mang kagubot ning away nilang Tomas ug Gwen.

Si Radaza(Lapu-lapu City) pud, wala unta bangi sa capitol, pero pwerte pud nga pagkabulay-og. Si Cortes(Mandaue City), di pud united sa iyang council. Si Fernandez(Talisay City), naa pud anak nga pwerte kabadlungon.

Kung united na pud tanan nato official, basin naa na pud economic crisis, so mao ra gihapon.

Sakit sa dughan.

marxman

November 6th, 2009, 05:02 AM

kita pd mga voters... pataka lng pd tag vote...

"we reap... what we sow..."

unsa kha atong pwde mahimu para m.solbad ni...

Sleepwalker

November 6th, 2009, 05:06 AM

Ako, provincial voter man ko...Si Gwen akong gibotohan sa una kay tarong pa kaayo na siya sa una ug bilib ko sa iyang effort ug vision...Pero these past few years, mora og mas tarong pa man iyang amahan kaysa iyaha...Nawala na iya "ang aksyon mao pasultihon".

I voted Gwen two times, pero karon, I doubt kung siya pa ba kaha.

I will go for a governor nga:

1. Makapa-improve sa livelihood programs(especially farming ug fishery) sa probinsya.
2. Makapa-reconcile sa capitol ug sa city hall.
3. Additional cost effective infra like trans-axial highway
4. Maka-optimize sa CICC.
5. Makapadayon sa culture and heritage advocacy nga nasugdan na ni Gwen. (This is one of the effort of Gov. Gwen that I appreciate so much)

Mao lang sa na ako wishlist karon.

jakejik

November 6th, 2009, 05:14 AM

vicven2

November 6th, 2009, 05:19 AM

bai ihawan og iring..hahahah sorry OT...

Thank God, No. :)
Just went there a few weeks ago, and they do try their best to keep the dogs alive for adoption.
So if any of you are looking for pets, adopt instead of buy, its free, and naa pud raba mga nindot ug breeds nga gi pangbayaan lang sa mga old owners kay nang larga. tsk tsk tsk...

leylander

November 6th, 2009, 05:46 AM

part siguro ni sa iyahang laing gwen advocacy (Government Wrecking of Enviable Negotiations), toinks

bitaw puola na ani ilang panagbagnngi oy, maayo unta mag 1-uppay sila in terms of services, projects etc. like say karon naay deal ang city ug sm, ang province pud unta mag pahambug sa ilahang kaugalingon na proyekto pud pero ang gihimo nila panglawgaw nuon, because of their competitive err combative personalities, one might say that tom and gwen deserve each other, but certainly we cebuanos don't deserve the state of political scenario we have right now

nindot unta kong nag one uppay na sila. ang nahitabo, nag up-yoursay man sila. hahaha

marxman

November 6th, 2009, 06:08 AM

i think its really important na cebu city voters can vote for their governor... since cebu city is part of cebu... and like now the governor has influence on the city (good or bad... but currently its bad)... it should only be right that the residents of cebu city has influence on who will be the governor. para fair...

and then the cebu city government should be atleast of the same party with the cebu province government... para walay gubot...

to make it short... kinahnglan smooth ang relationship sa provincial govnt and cebu city gvnt... coz sila ang big influence sa progress of cebu as a whole...

sadly if we want that to happen... we have to go through the process of passing a bill in congress then senate... it will be reviewed by congressmen and senators who are not from cebu and have no direct relation to cebu...

it should be right time na we should be federated so that we cebuanos have the right and responsibility to govern ourselves on internal matters... matters which only affects us cebuanos...

am i right or am i correct?

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 6th, 2009, 06:13 AM

kaning mga garcia, they think that they own cebu.

detrimental to the progress of cebu as a whole man gyud ning gibuhat sa province.

mga oplok gyud.

because the garcias too thinks that the osmenas own cebu. tug-of-war nila ang cebu! hahaha...

basta, in my own little ways as a province voter, dili ko mubotar ni gwen!

maayo ra pud na gibalita ni para makakita gyud ang kadaghanan na walay ayo na si gwen og angay ng siyang ilisan!

marxman

November 6th, 2009, 06:14 AM

its really stupid ang current setup with the province and cebu city... the province has influence on cebu city yet the residents of cebu city cant influence on who will be the governor but then the capitol building is inside cebu city...

hahay! shtupid... whoever made that setup is just just blatantly shtupid...

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 06:18 AM

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 6th, 2009, 06:18 AM

maybe gusto ang capitol adto ibutang ang SM sa balili og dili sa SRP! :lol::lol:

hahaha...SM Aqua City! :lol::lol:

Sleepwalker

November 6th, 2009, 06:20 AM

^^Kay kaniadto wala man nang "thin red line" between city hall ug capitol...City hall ug capitol ra man ang naa thin red line. Ang mga Cebuanos, together as one man gihapon.

maybe gusto ang capitol adto ibutang ang SM sa balili og dili sa SRP! :lol::lol:

hahaha...SM Aqua City! :lol::lol:

SM Mall of Atlantis-Balili... :lol::lol::lol:

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 06:23 AM

maybe gusto ang capitol adto ibutang ang SM sa balili og dili sa SRP! :lol::lol:

hahaha...SM Aqua City! :lol::lol:

I'd like to see an underwater mall. :D

vatics

November 6th, 2009, 06:25 AM

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 6th, 2009, 06:38 AM

^^Kay kaniadto wala man nang "thin red line" between city hall ug capitol...City hall ug capitol ra man ang naa thin red line. Ang mga Cebuanos, together as one man gihapon.

SM Mall of Atlantis-Balili... :lol::lol::lol:

I'd like to see an underwater mall. :D

hahaha...right! maybe its high time for mr. sy to build the first underwater mall in the philippines! :lol::lol::D:D

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

November 6th, 2009, 06:47 AM

ipareclaim na tawn na ang pond diha......... sayang kaayo ang additional space nga mahatag ana.......

the pond is intended for another yet another extravagant masterpiece! naay plano ang city sa pond bai @ken....

nindot man pud na na naay water features within sa SRP kay para nindot gyud tanawon. dili puro reclaimed land. ;)

SleMarKen

November 6th, 2009, 07:23 AM

The Old CEBU meets the New.
CebuSugbo

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5307/skylinecebu103009z.jpg

pookhey

November 6th, 2009, 07:28 AM

O! Mao jd ning dalana, bai! Angay jd ning ayohon sa taga city hall

thats so sad...hope they do something about it..............

Sleepwalker

November 6th, 2009, 07:30 AM

if Ace Durano will run for governor then he has my vote. although GWEN has many projects completed all over the province she has made it difficult for other LGUs (like Cebu City) to grow even to greater heights without her blessing. too much of GWEN is bad for our health...i mean bad for us cebuanos.

Yes...I think, it is also Gwen who is responsible for the halting of the business park in Consolacion...I forgot what was the reason.

AmbutLang

November 6th, 2009, 07:47 AM

I'd like to see an underwater mall. :D

Gov. Gwen will build one as soon as re-elected. call gwensantis. igsoon sa gisantis. toinks. :nuts:

AmbutLang

November 6th, 2009, 07:47 AM

Yes...I think, it is also Gwen who is responsible for the halting of the business park in Consolacion...I forgot what was the reason.

Kay dili siya ang vida ug dili pud siya nakapasihugda. :ohno:

Hiroshima

November 6th, 2009, 07:53 AM

Thank God, No. :)
Just went there a few weeks ago, and they do try their best to keep the dogs alive for adoption.
So if any of you are looking for pets, adopt instead of buy, its free, and naa pud raba mga nindot ug breeds nga gi pangbayaan lang sa mga old owners kay nang larga. tsk tsk tsk...

How I wish PAWS (Philippine Animal Welfare Society) will form a branch here.
Mu support gyud ko.

Bitaw luoy gyud nang mga pets i abandon ra. tsk tsk tsk... Luoy gyud pero di sad gyud pwede na akong dad-on mga stray dogs and cats sa amoa na akong makit-an sa dalan. :nuts:

Eastern Dragon

November 6th, 2009, 09:21 AM

sus bai,

kung kahibalo lang mo unsa gibuhat ni winston sa GSIS, maugtas gyud mo. and he wants to be mayor or congressman.

ang province also, lets put in in perspective. the garcias have been running the capitol for 12 years already. 6 years ka pabling. 6 ka gwen.

sakto ba ko. and now we want to give them 3 more years? 3 more years of what.

3 more years of lamp post controversies.
3 more years of CICC overpriced projects.
3 more years of barili type purchases.

they have been bought out of veco because of their lack of management skills. now we want to give them 3 more years.

in fairness, pa cute cute ng suroy suroy sugbo. pero in all honesty, nisakay ra man na sila sa sinulog kay spill over effect man gud na sa tourism projects sa city.

to be honest, i cannot remember what is the most significant achievement ni gwen or pabling during their term.

zidlakan

November 6th, 2009, 09:29 AM

^^ It's a legal provision that dates back to 1979, when the 33 then-newly-declared highly-urbanized cities were spun off from their mother provinces. For Cebu City to return under the fold of the province of Cebu, the Local Government Code must be amended, as the old law (Batas Pambansa Blg. 51) was superseded by the LGC.

as it should be amended for this strange provision of a 1979 law which defies
reason or justification. many of you find this strange, right? i mean, for the
life of me, tell me the rationale of excluding HUC's voters in electing provincial
officials when the HUC in almost all case, i think maybe all, are the provincial
capital! i'm sure the other 32 HUCs at that time were at a loss on why this was
legislated. not the case of cebu city cause the people back then knew why
this law was passed.

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 09:44 AM

^^ The only provincial capitals which were declared HUCs at the time were Cebu, Iloilo, Iligan, Bacolod and Olongapo. Other then-HUCs, like Baguio, Zamboanga and Davao, already were independent of any province at the time the HUC classification was introduced. Still others, like Angeles, were neither provincially independent nor a provincial capital. But anyway, the provision reads like this:

SECTION 3. Cities. — There shall be in each city such elective local officials as provided in their respective charters, including the city mayor, the city vice-mayor, and the elective members of the sangguniang panlungsod, all of whom shall be elected by the qualified voters in the city. In addition thereto, there shall be appointive sangguniang panlungsod, members consisting of the president of the city association of barangay councils, the president of the city federation of the kabataang barangay, and one representative each from the agricultural and industrial labor sectors who shall be appointed by the President (Prime Minister) whenever, as determined by the sangguniang panlungsod, said sectors are of sufficient number in the city to warrant representation.

Until cities are reclassified into highly urbanized and component cities in accordance with the standards established in the Local Government Code as provided for in Article XI, Section 4 (1) of the Constitution, any city now existing with an annual regular income derived from infrastructure and general funds of not less than forty million pesos (P40,000,000.00) at the time of the approval of this Act shall be classified as a highly urbanized city. All other cities shall be considered components of the provinces where they are geographically located.

The City of Baguio, because of its special functions as the summer capital of the Philippines, shall be classified as a highly urbanized city irrespective of its income.

The registered voters of a component city may be entitled to vote in the election of the officials of the province of which that city is a component, if its charter so provides. However, voters registered in a highly urbanized city, as hereinabove defined, shall not participate nor vote in the election of the officials of the province in which the highly urbanized city is geographically located.

As far as I know, only two HUCs were able to retain the right to vote and run in provincial elections under the provisions of Section 452-C of the Local Government Code. These are Lucena and Mandaue.

I think Isagani can best give an explanation as to why this is the case.

zidlakan

November 6th, 2009, 09:51 AM

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 09:55 AM

^^ My guess is that HUCs are supposed to be Manila-like: given that they are more developed than their mother provinces, these cities are now incongruous with their more rurally-oriented provinces. Since these cities can stand on their own, development of the countryside can be better promoted if investors don't always flock to the cities, and HUCs can better-pursue more "metropolitan" policies without the hindrance of their lesser-developed counterparts in the countryside.

This Wikipedia quotation may help:

Although some earlier cities were given charters because of their advantageous or strategic locations (Angeles, Baguio, Cotabato, Olongapo, Tagaytay, Zamboanga) or incorporated to especially establish new government centers in otherwise sparsely populated areas (Palayan, Trece Martires, Quezon City), most Philippine cities were originally incorporated to provide a form of localized civil government to an area that is primarily urban, which, due to its compact nature and different demography and local economy, cannot be necessarily handled more efficiently by more rural-oriented provincial and municipal governments. However, not all cities are purely areas of dense urban settlement. To date there are still cities with huge expanses of rural or wilderness areas and considerable non-urban populations, such as Calbayog, Davao, Puerto Princesa, and Zamboanga as they were deliberately incorporated with increased future resource needs and urban expansion, as well as strategic considerations in mind.

Again, ask Isagani (he wrote that part of the article).

zidlakan

November 6th, 2009, 09:57 AM

^^
the right of suffrage gives the citizens the right to choose officials who will
govern them for the period of the political term. but what is happening now is
that provincial officials are interfering and intervening on the lives of the people
who do not have the right to vote for them. something's amiss here. we need
to go back to history to better understand why this strange law came out in
1979, and what ulterior motives were, of the assemblymen at that time, and
the strongman-dictator who controlled them ....

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 10:06 AM

^^ You can ask Hilario Davide, as he was part of the Interim Batasang Pambansa. Or Juan Ponce Enrile.

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 10:08 AM

Mabuhi Ka Sugboanon! (http://cebu.gov.ph/?getid=2&getsubid=36&infolinkids=&GetBodyName=Mabuhi%20Ka%20Sugboanon%20Song&rightpdisable=0)

After reading back through the archives, I can't believe this was posted. The song's stuck in my head. :lol:

zidlakan

November 6th, 2009, 10:16 AM

^^ You can ask Hilario Davide, as he was part of the Interim Batasang Pambansa. Or Juan Ponce Enrile.

davide was opposition then. he couldn't have prevented it. the provision is weird
(that particular one, the rest of the law was okay) cause it made no sense. only
older people at the time really knew what marcos was up to.

but if it takes for us to amend the LGC, i think it should be done. the question
is which congressman would initiate it, and would the others agree. i think its
a lost cause ...

marxman

November 6th, 2009, 11:15 AM

but if it takes for us to amend the LGC, i think it should be done. the question
is which congressman would initiate it, and would the others agree. i think its
a lost cause ...

Saon nlng! maybe we need a REBOOT... or we just leave this country and live in other much stable countries...

LordCarnal

November 6th, 2009, 12:44 PM

^^

It would not be good if they want investors to expand outside Cebu City... maybe they are creating noise coz its election time na baya...

Well there are still cities in Vismin that can accommodate investors.... I hope what happened in Iloilo City before will not happen in Cebu when a very "intelligent" mayor ran the city and shoed investors away....Iloilo City bacame stagnant for more than a decade....

I agree with you Van.

Thus I will never vote for Tomas, even for congressman, because in the first place siya ra jud ang sinugdan ani tanan. :ohno:

Hapsay ra unta kaayo tung Cuidad, ug unsa pa tu. Unsaon man, patulan man ang babaye nga pirting labing ka maldita pod.

.:.

LordCarnal

November 6th, 2009, 12:52 PM

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1922/smfront11409a.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3081/smfront11409b.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4387/smfront11409c.jpg

Mao ni mag cge lang ug pangaway ug panaway sa probinsiya pero utro pod diay pirting bati-a sa mga dalan. Naa pay squatters ug mga drug addic sa Pasila, Duljo-Fatima, Ermita, etc.

Mao ni nga dapat magtinabangay nalang unta. Dili mag cge ug away. Dili usikan ang kwarta sa gobyerno para lang sa pagpangaway parehas anang mga signage sa SRP "Dim your lights this is not the province..." Pila kahay gigasto ana?

Total kaauyan ra man sa tanan Sugbuanon atong gi-apas.

Let's make SSC a tool to advocate development for Cebu and not just a BOPK advocacy forum.

...

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 12:53 PM

davide was opposition then. he couldn't have prevented it.

All of Region VII was opposition. :sleepy:

twIco

November 6th, 2009, 01:46 PM

naabot lagi ta sa politics?!!

eheheh...

zidlakan

November 6th, 2009, 02:08 PM

... parehas anang mga signage sa SRP "Dim your lights this is not the province..." Pila kahay gigasto ana?

i'm sure it's much much smaller, less that 1% of the P98 Million that some
government officials pay for underwater land ...

Total kaauyan ra man sa tanan Sugbuanon atong gi-apas.

Let's make SSC a tool to advocate development for Cebu and not just a BOPK advocacy forum....

i totally agree. i am the only BOPK member here, i don't think hundreds of inde-
pendent and intelligent forum members could be swayed by one person. let's
continue to advocate development for cebu ... and not use the forum for anti-
BOPK advocacy.

no offense meant, i shall hold my peace here. i think the other forummers
are intelligent enough to discern whether what i have been posting were
issues for the future of cebu or to advance the BOPK cause ...

zidlakan

November 6th, 2009, 02:13 PM

All of Region VII was opposition. :sleepy:

i'm not really sure ... cebu was, bohol maybe. but i think negros oriental and
siquijor were not, or at least, mixed. i really have no idea, maybe you're right.
but i'll ask some of the older people .... (:D i'm not that old, he he he).

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 02:15 PM

^^ All the representatives of Region VII in the Interim Batasang Pambansa were members of Pusyon Bisaya, the only region where all the representatives elected were not members of the KBL.

zidlakan

November 6th, 2009, 02:20 PM

^^ All the representatives of Region VII in the Interim Batasang Pambansa were members of Pusyon Bisaya, the only region where all the representatives elected were not members of the KBL.

ah ok. hmmmm ... you're really well-versed with the 1970's politics here, and
you're not older than me, he he he. that's right, i remember now, it was pus-
yon bisaya, but i didn't know it was the whole region. still a minority anyway,
so i think they could not have enough numbers to oppose that law ...

kenken94

November 6th, 2009, 02:25 PM

part siguro ni sa iyahang laing gwen advocacy (Government Wrecking of Enviable Negotiations), toinks

bitaw puola na ani ilang panagbagnngi oy, maayo unta mag 1-uppay sila in terms of services, projects etc. like say karon naay deal ang city ug sm, ang province pud unta mag pahambug sa ilahang kaugalingon na proyekto pud pero ang gihimo nila panglawgaw nuon, because of their competitive err combative personalities, one might say that tom and gwen deserve each other, but certainly we cebuanos don't deserve the state of political scenario we have right now

Nidaghan najud ang mga GWEN disruptive advocacy.......... almost every single of these can be easily connected to her name. GWEN!:nuts:

kenken94

November 6th, 2009, 02:29 PM

^^
Wakeboard Center?

Sinjin P.

November 6th, 2009, 02:29 PM

as it should be amended for this strange provision of a 1979 law which defies
reason or justification. many of you find this strange, right? i mean, for the
life of me, tell me the rationale of excluding HUC's voters in electing provincial
officials when the HUC in almost all case, i think maybe all, are the provincial
capital! i'm sure the other 32 HUCs at that time were at a loss on why this was
legislated. not the case of cebu city cause the people back then knew why
this law was passed.

And I am quite disappointed that on my first time to vote, I won't be able to vote for governor. :(

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 02:37 PM

^^ That's what people's initiative is for! Get all the citizens of HUCs to sign a common petition amending the LGC! :lol:

bakasaurus

November 6th, 2009, 02:51 PM

Bitaw naa diay nangampanya diri ug BOPK? hehe. So far, people here have been reacting to both Tomas and Gwen's actions, and not towards any party's stand whatsoever. I even appreciate pod @Zid's style because I can see that he shows restraint and is careful with his posts even if he is a party member.

And also just because people here hate what Gwen is doing right now and criticizing her doesn't mean we are pro BOPK. And vice versa. Is it not also possible that forumers here actually like neither party with the direction they are taking right now?

Taysa, nakabantay ko basta sa closing na dapit sa thread permi lage timing ug lalis about politics. Hahaha.
Mora ug mao ra man ni sa usual nga trend nga sa tae ra gyud padung ang tanang storya. Hahaha.

RonnieR

November 6th, 2009, 03:18 PM

inaayos na ba ito as of this time?

No, same situation. The taxi passed that road on my way to SM last Nov. 4.

Guys, what is BOPK?

AmbutLang

November 6th, 2009, 03:32 PM

^^This type of voting set up by Marcos and his cronies had to be amended or revamped but a line has to be settled as who will govern which part is local and which is provincial jurisdiction so as to prevent in political fighting.

NYC can vote the governor so thus the other big cities of the US.

puno na ang thread. :nuts::nuts::lol:

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 03:38 PM

No, same situation. The taxi passed that road on my way to SM last Nov. 4.

Guys, what is BOPK?

BO-PK stands for Bando Osmeña - Pundok Kauswagan (I have no idea what the translation is).

And woohoo! Time to close this thread and start Thread 92! :lock:

Ex!lE

November 6th, 2009, 03:38 PM

^ a local political party. Bando Osmena Pundok Kauswagan

Its time for a new thread.

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 03:39 PM

^^ Your wish is my command (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=996737). :D

Darn, I don't know how to set up a poll. If the thread needs to be deleted to start a poll, so be it. :(

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 03:41 PM

Although I don't live in Cebu, I find it an honor to start this city's (and province's) ninety-second thread. :D

Link to Thread 91 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=623368&page=3076&p=45057284). :okay:

AmbutLang

November 6th, 2009, 03:45 PM

^^Al least you have an open mind for a young gentleman:cheers:.

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 03:46 PM

^^ But now we don't have a LRT/BRT/both/none poll! :cry:

AmbutLang

November 6th, 2009, 03:51 PM

we will ask the mod @rusty to move it here.

twIco

November 6th, 2009, 03:53 PM

ehehe...nanggawas na ang mga political ads sa mga pulitiko nato karon..eheeh

kapoi cge og tan-aw...

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 03:53 PM

we will ask the mod @rusty to move it here.

Whee. :D

Notice how I clearly said "LRT/BRT/both/none". :tongue2:

AmbutLang

November 6th, 2009, 03:55 PM

^^Marina sa mga naay leisure boats, way labut pump boats. :lol::lol:

kiretoce

November 6th, 2009, 04:00 PM

Once a thread is closed, the poll also is closed. Polls can't be transferred from one thread to the next. I'm afraid you'd have to start over again.

twIco

November 6th, 2009, 04:02 PM

eheheh..nahan sad ko makakita sa latest poll updates..:)

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 04:05 PM

Once a thread is closed, the poll also is closed. Polls can't be transferred from one thread to the next. I'm afraid you'd have to start over again.

BRT won hands-down anyway. :lol:

Wind Shear

November 6th, 2009, 04:10 PM

BO-PK stands for Bando Osmeña - Pundok Kauswagan (I have no idea what the translation is).

In literal English - Team Osmeña - Progress Group

BRT won hands-down anyway. :lol:

And number 2, the Cebu City Government killed the LRT project initiated by Cong. Gullas.

slimer

November 6th, 2009, 04:18 PM

i agree to sir @baka's post from the previous thread. we are not promoting any party here, obvious ba! (christmas party nuon hehe)...
mayor Tom might not be a perfect person but he has very good vision! i voted for gwen before but this time di na gyud!!!

ivanc

November 6th, 2009, 04:43 PM

Kahibaw ang SM kung kinsa ang dili angay seriouso-on... Its ironic that capitol warns SM about the technicalities in purchasing SRP lots, when they themselves have overlooked that when they bought the balili lot..

boy muscovado

November 6th, 2009, 05:49 PM

SleMarKen

November 6th, 2009, 06:31 PM

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5307/skylinecebu103009z.jpg

bakasaurus

November 6th, 2009, 07:36 PM

Nice pic bai Slerz!

Ako photos woi! Wednesday na ko present! Hehehe. Lamat kaayo daan!

bisdakincanada

November 6th, 2009, 07:45 PM

Ahak sad aning GG oi! Gwendolyn Garcia!

Sakto ra sad jd nga "GG" sya kay naa nay Gossip Girl (New York), Gucci Gang (Manila), and our very own Gwendolyn Garcia of Cebu!!!!!

Star na jd ni si GG! Gibati na jd si siya! Nagsige na lang na sya ug lawgaw sa Ciudad ug Probinsya sa Sugbo! Nganong hulgaon mana ang mga investors? Maaayo unta ug mabalasot na si Gwen sa imburnal!

SleMarKen

November 6th, 2009, 07:46 PM

^^aw o diay, hehe. asa gani ato nga mga pics? i-pm lang nako kung asa ato...hehe
Thanks:)

bakasaurus

November 6th, 2009, 07:53 PM

^^aw o diay, hehe. asa gani ato nga mga pics? i-pm lang nako kung asa ato...hehe
Thanks:)

Kaw lang bahala bai, kanang bisan sa usa lang ka emailan gud na attachment aron dili pod kaayo ka mahasol. Ingani na lang,

10 best photos nimo sa Cebu. :lol: (Labi na ang recent shots apil to ang mga bata sa CBP)

Mga 20 MB mana sa? so sakto isa ka hatod.

Daghan gyud kaayong salamat bai. Maayo ni kay aron naa koy maconvince mga hapon mulaag sa Pinas, labi na sa Cebu. Hehe.

bisdakincanada

November 6th, 2009, 07:53 PM

[Quote] BO-PK stands for Bando Osmeña - Pundok Kauswagan (I have no idea what the translation is) [Quote]

"Learn Cebuano... when it brings no direct benefit to me" Remember this?

technoblaze

November 6th, 2009, 08:22 PM

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3081/dsc01965wa.jpg

Behind Cebu City Hall
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/721/dsc01980.jpg

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 08:57 PM

"Learn Cebuano... when it brings no direct benefit to me" Remember this?

Thank you for mangling my argument and taking it (again) out of context. It's dead, and we've moved on. Now please, so should you. :D

Sky Harbor

November 6th, 2009, 09:10 PM

Anyway, since this is a new thread and all, I hope you all don't mind if I do a little shameless, OT plug, despite someone down in the previous thread threatening to break my skull in half (seriously, please don't, and hasn't my apologies been enough already?!). :lol:

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ruralvillage

November 7th, 2009, 12:23 AM

Cebu City Hall accepts SM’s offer for P2.7-B SRP lot buy (http://positivenewsmedia.com/am2/publish/Cities_And_Towns_23/Cebu_City_Hall_accepts_SM_s_offer_for_P2_7-B_SRP_lot_buy.shtml)
PNM (http://positivenewsmedia.com/am2/publish/Cities_And_Towns_23/Cebu_City_Hall_accepts_SM_s_offer_for_P2_7-B_SRP_lot_buy.shtml)

CEBU CITY, Nov. 7 (PNA) – The Cebu City Government has accepted "in principle” the offer of SM prime Holdings Inc. to buy a 30-hectare portion of the South Road Properties (SRP) for P2.7 billion, and will ask the company to pay the P270-million bid bond.

Cebu City Administrator Francisco Fernandez said they will also ask SM Prime Holdings president Hans Sy to submit other eligibility documents, including the company’s financial statements.

A certification of 60 percent of the company’s shares are owned by Filipinos and its Securities and Exchange Commission registration will also be required.

The city’s bids and awards committee is asking for P270 million for the bond to be paid in cash or manager’s check, which represents 10 percent of the bid price.

”In principle, we have accepted their offer but the mayor will ask them to submit additional documents and to deposit the 10-percent bid bond. As soon as we have the documents and the bond, two days after, we will already publish the invitation for a competitive challenge,” he said.

The invitation will be published twice within a 14-day period. Interested challengers will have 30 days from the last day of publication to submit their offer.

”They will have 30 days to submit their letter of intent and if no one is interested to challenge the offer of SM, we will award the sale to SM,” Fernandez said.

Through a competitive challenge, the city will be allowed to negotiate with the buyer on the terms and conditions of the sale and the intended use of the property.

It will also allow other interested developers to submit their proposals and challenge the offer of SM Prime, which the latte can match if it loses in the bidding.

SM Prime has submitted an unsolicited proposal to buy a 30-hectare portion of the SRP for P2.7 billion, payable in six years with an interest of five percent per year on unpaid principal balance.

The city will get P675 million or 25 percent of the total bid price as down payment 15 days after SM Prime receives the Notice of Award.
Aside from a shopping mall with a floor area of 25 hectares, SM Prime will also build a two-hectare convention facility, hotels, a school, a hospital and high-rise residential condominiums. (PNA)

ruralvillage

November 7th, 2009, 12:26 AM

President Arroyo allots P100B for Metro Cebu’s proposed mass rail system (http://positivenewsmedia.com/am2/publish/Cities_And_Towns_23/President_Arroyo_allots_P100B_for_Metro_Cebu_s_proposed_mass_rail_system.shtml)
PNM (http://positivenewsmedia.com/am2/publish/Cities_And_Towns_23/President_Arroyo_allots_P100B_for_Metro_Cebu_s_proposed_mass_rail_system.shtml)

CEBU CITY, Nov. 7 (PNA) – Rep Eduardo R. Gullas (Cebu, first district) said President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has allotted P100 billion in support of the Light Rail Transit-Mono Rail Transit (LRT-MRT) project for Metro Cebu.

Gullas, who has been working for the establishment of a mass transit system for Cebu over the last 12 years, said they convinced President Arroyo that outside of Metro Manila, if there is another area where an LRT-MRT would be viable, it would be Metro Cebu.

”For that reason, she appropriated a hundred billion for the Cebu LRT-MRT and the Mindanao Railways. And that started off with the DOTC (Department of Transportation and Communication) as the lead agency,” Gullas said.

But Gullas reiterated that the project will not push through if Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmena would continue to oppose it because Cebu City is the link between Talisay City and Mandaue City in the LRT component.

”It’s a pity because studies would show that the cheapest means of transportation in the world is a railway. Perhaps, future and younger leaders in Cebu will then have the opportunity to unite and push projects like this,” Gullas said.

Gullas said all the local government units (LGUs) in southern Cebu, such as Talisay City, Minglanilla, Naga City, San Fernando, Carcar City, Sibonga, Argao and Dalaguete already endorsed the LRT-MRT project.

But anticipating that proponents of the LRT-MRT will bypass the Cebu City Government, Osmena vowed to lobby against it before the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) and the foreign funding agencies.

Osmena reiterated that the proposed LRT-MRT project would be another lamppost scandal, and said he did not want the city’s taxpayers to pay for the cost of the project.

He referred to the purchase of street lamps that the Ombudsman’s office said were probably overpriced.

Osmena said he was sure the proponents would try to implement the US$ 600-million LRT-MRT project even without the required endorsement of the Cebu City Government.

”They will try and we will fight it. We’ll make it clear to the lending institution that we’re not going to go along with this scam. We will also go to NEDA,” he said.

But Gullas said that the fear of Osmena that the LRT-MRT project was a fundraising for the upcoming elections had no basis since it would be implemented under a build-operate-transfer (BOT) scheme.

”It will be at no cost at all to the National Government because the proponent will raise the funds, implement the project, operate the project for 25 years and to their study, I am sure they will recover their investment within that period, and turn it over to the local government. So, I do not see how this can lead to scam or corruption,” Gullas said.

Rep. Pablo John Garcia (Cebu, 3rd district) said the LRT-MRT project would benefit the entire Province of Cebu, including the people of Cebu City.

Garcia said the concerns raised by Osmena were not reasons to block the project. What the mayor should do, he said, was to be vigilant about how the project would be undertaken, or to constantly monitor its implementation.

He said the proposed LRT-MRT fare was also not an issue because operators would always succumb to market forces.
If they would set high fare rates, he said nobody would take the LRT-MRT and that would prevent them from recovering their investment within 25 years. (PNA)

AmbutLang

November 7th, 2009, 01:32 AM

^^Cebu City Council vetoed this proposal. They have to wait what will the next Cebu City council will consist of after the election. I guess.

zidlakan

November 7th, 2009, 02:07 AM

CEBU CITY, Nov. 7 (PNA) – Rep Eduardo R. Gullas (Cebu, first district) said President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has allotted P100 billion in support of the Light Rail Transit-Mono Rail Transit (LRT-MRT) project for Metro Cebu.

”It will be at no cost at all to the National Government because the proponent will raise the funds, implement the project, operate the project for 25 years and to their study, I am sure they will recover their investment within that period, and turn it over to the local government. So, I do not see how this can lead to scam or corruption,” Gullas said.

ano ba talaga, kuya? NO COST TO GOVERNMENT
or P100 Billion? why would the president allocate P100 Billion
(equivalent to 20 SRPs, or 30 Marcelo Fernan Bridges, or 400 km of BRT!),
if it is of NO COST to government? :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

”It’s a pity because studies would show that the cheapest means of transportation in the world is a railway. Perhaps, future and younger leaders in Cebu will then have the opportunity to unite and push projects like this,” Gullas said.

19 kilometers --> P100 Billion --> cheapest means
of transportation in the world .... ? ? ? ?
:bash::bash::bash: nagsalimuang na man tawon ni oi? the least he could
have done is present the facts to the cebuanos and convince us of his
proposal. i think we are all internet-savvy here, i-research kuno ninyo kung
cheapest means of transportation ba ang railway?

blueguy

November 7th, 2009, 02:12 AM

^^

Cheapest means of transportation, but we the taxpayers are subsidizing the LRT-MRT operations in Manila.... very cheap for them to say that... hmmmmm I smell bulok na daing here...

ivanc

November 7th, 2009, 02:40 AM

gullas is getting desperate so his tactic now is to make tommy look like "the bad guy", the guy who is against cebu's progress...

"Progress for Progress sake must be discouraged".... - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

Bati kaayo kung mag himo lng ta ug project just for the sake nga naa tay project

Maxxclip

November 7th, 2009, 02:59 AM

"Progress for Progress sake must be discouraged"....

^^

"...for without progress there will be stagnation and decay. There again, progress for progress's sake must be discouraged, for our tried and tested traditions often require no tinkering. A balance, then, between old and new, between permanence and change, between tradition and innovation because some changes will be for the better, while others will come, in the fullness of time, to be recognised as errors of judgement. Meanwhile, some old habits will be retained, and rightly so, whereas others, outmoded and outworn, must be abandoned. Let us move forward, then, into a new era of openness, effectiveness and accountability, intent on preserving what ought to be preserved, perfecting what needs to be perfected, and pruning wherever we find practices that ought to be prohibited"

zidlakan

November 7th, 2009, 03:18 AM

"Progress for Progress sake must be discouraged" ....

for too long, we have been held bondage by the myth that for us to be equal
with the more developed cities of the world, "We Must Have Rail!" and we are
not alone in this - many other developing nations and cities still cling to the
belief, ... and yes, even developed ones, including the United States of A. and
so we cringed at the thought that an LRT is proposed and we'll miss the chance
to have it.

i'd like to share a beautiful treatise, albeit quite long, on the issue of rail in the
US of A. mind you this is not an advocacy for the BRT, i think it's not even
mentioned here. but it talks about the americans' penchant for rail and how
it's costing them in the long run ...

-----------------------------------

http://www.open-spaces.com/images/smallos.gif (http://www.open-spaces.com/article-v3n2-bundy.php). . . . . . . . . . November 06, 2009

Why Rail?
by Emory Bundy
Why do we support systems that almost never work?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Since the record of new rail systems in America is abysmal, it is puzzling why they enjoy so much support. The answer lies in a marriage between an idealistic desire to recapture features of the pre-automotive era, when sprawl and congestion did not so blight our lives, and cynical, old fashioned, pork barrel politics.

The introduction of urban rail systems in American communities almost never works. In addition to a loss of transit market share, such systems impose a perpetual burden in the form of higher subsidies. The consequence of such capital investments, followed by burgeoning operating subsidies, is to pay more and get less, while failing to address the manifest challenges of congestion and mobility. Why, in the face of experience, do many people still promote rail development, the quintessential non-solution?

Later in this article, a list of affordable and affirmative responses to the awesome challenges of congestion and mobility will be presented, headed by lesson number one: don’t squander resources.

link to article here ---> http://www.open-spaces.com/article-v3n2-bundy.php

(sorry, the article is quite long. but i really urge you to read and understand.
you may not agree with this, but i hope you will have an understanding of
the issues involved .... thanks ... zidlakan)

kenken94

November 7th, 2009, 03:18 AM

utro man pud ni si Gloria nga naa'y pagka b@@ngon, ni proclaim siya'g support sa BRT before per karon niprovide pud ug kwarta para sa LRT. Unsa'y gusto ani niya? Does she want to have both system in the Metro? She's just wasting Government funds when even Manila currently has not yet recovered from the wreckage wrought about by the past typhoons. I don't know what she's up to........

twIco

November 7th, 2009, 03:54 AM

i would prefer a monorail and a brt.

federalist

November 7th, 2009, 04:16 AM

Sleepwalker

November 7th, 2009, 05:20 AM

Why it's always Cebu? As if it is not enough that we are just recieving crumbs and left overs in terms of national government attention and here comes another disparity...:ohno:

----------------------------------------------------------------
Chamber asks Palace for help on P8 fuel price discrepancy (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/chamber-asks-palace-help-p8-fuel-price-discrepancy)

THE Cebu Chamber of Commerce and Industry (CCCI) asked President Arroyo for some relief from rising oil prices, saying Cebuano consumers were made to absorb “losses” arising from a price freeze ordered in Luzon.

In a letter sent through Presidential Assistant for Central Visayas Felix Guanzon, the CCCI said that since Executive Order 839 took effect—forcing oil companies to return to fuel price levels as of Oct. 15—fuel products have cost at least P8 more in Cebu than in Metro Manila.

Sun.Star accepts donations for victims of Typhoon Ondoy

The CCCI said it understood that the price freeze was intended to help consumers in Luzon who are reeling from a series of powerful storms since late September.

“However, when the Big 3 oil companies implemented Executive Order 839, the price of fuel in Cebu correspondingly increased by P2, giving us the impression that Cebu is being made to bear the brunt of the alleged ‘losses’ from the said price freeze,” said the letter signed by Consul Samuel Chioson, CCCI president.

The chamber pointed out that in April this year, it appealed for President Arroyo’s help with an “inequitable discrepancy” that forced Cebu-based consumers to pay higher pump prices than those in other areas.

The CCCI and other business organizations then joined Cebu Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia in filing a complaint against Petron, Pilipinas Shell and Chevron before a joint task force of the justice and energy departments.

Continuing

“While the case is still under review, Cebu has seen several rounds of fuel price increases, the latest of which was another increment this week,” the CCCI said in its letter.

“This further widens the gap between Metro Manila and Cebu prices by as much as P8.85 per liter for diesel as of today (Oct. 30).”

Citing reports by the Department of Energy, the chamber pointed out that diesel was sold for P28 per liter, on the average, in Metro Manila, compared to P36.85 in Cebu. Gasoline retailed for P36.41 in the capital region for the same period, compared to P45.19 (unleaded) in Cebu.

“While the Big 3 oil companies have been unable to give a plausible explanation for the higher fuel prices in Cebu vs. prices in the rest of the country, they continue imposing increases, further disadvantaging Cebu business and the entire Cebu populace,” the chamber said.

It asked for Malacañang’s “urgent intervention.”

Jimbu

November 7th, 2009, 06:47 AM

ano ba talaga, kuya? NO COST TO GOVERNMENT
or P100 Billion? why would the president allocate P100 Billion
(equivalent to 20 SRPs, or 30 Marcelo Fernan Bridges, or 400 km of BRT!),
if it is of NO COST to government? :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

19 kilometers --> P100 Billion --> cheapest means
of transportation in the world .... ? ? ? ?
:bash::bash::bash: nagsalimuang na man tawon ni oi? the least he could
have done is present the facts to the cebuanos and convince us of his
proposal. i think we are all internet-savvy here, i-research kuno ninyo kung
cheapest means of transportation ba ang railway?

I think it's not P100 billion but P100 million. The allocation is for the feasibility study of LRT in Cebu and the railway project in Mindanao.

In fact, it was President Arroyo who ordered the allocation of P100 million for the feasibility study of the light railway project in Cebu and Mindanao.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=514643&publicationSubCategoryId=107

Henz

November 7th, 2009, 06:52 AM

ano ba talaga, kuya? NO COST TO GOVERNMENT
or P100 Billion? why would the president allocate P100 Billion
(equivalent to 20 SRPs, or 30 Marcelo Fernan Bridges, or 400 km of BRT!),
if it is of NO COST to government? :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

19 kilometers --> P100 Billion --> cheapest means
of transportation in the world .... ? ? ? ?
:bash::bash::bash: nagsalimuang na man tawon ni oi? the least he could
have done is present the facts to the cebuanos and convince us of his
proposal. i think we are all internet-savvy here, i-research kuno ninyo kung
cheapest means of transportation ba ang railway?

Hayyy.. mabuang na jud ta aning gobyernoha...
Klaro na jud.. na ang LRT project sa Cebu.. is a fundraising effort sa administration mao nang gi dul it la ng dayon sa atong alingagngag..........:bash::bash: