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AmbutLang

May 5th, 2010, 05:32 PM

**nothing is wrong using ones photo in anyway provided that you use it in righteous way and when time comes, give credit to where/whom it is due...:cheers:

Mao ni akong nakita sa google.

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/matters/matters-9710.html

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The following article appears in the journal JOM,
49 (10) (1997), pp. 47,48.
JOM is a publication of The Minerals, Metals & Materials Society

Understanding Copyrights: A Glossary
Arnold B. Silverman
In the August issue of JOM, the article "Understanding Copyrights: Ownership, Infringement, and Fair Use" discussed some of the fundamental concepts concerning U.S. copyright law. This glossary expands on the meaning of a number of the terms that were employed in that previous article. Although there is pending federal legislation that might revise the copyright law with respect to several special issues resulting from the rapid growth of the Internet, the definitions that are contained herein provide a basic list of currently used copyright terms.

Criminal Copyright Infringement: Infringement that is engaged in willfully and for purposes of commercial advantage or for private financial gain is considered to be criminal infringement.

Criminal Liability: Criminal liability in the form of a fine also applies to one who, with fraudulent intent, places a notice of copyright on a work or publicly distributes an article with such a notice, knowing it to be false or who fraudulently removes the copyright notice. One may also be fined for knowingly making a false representation of a material fact in an application for a copyright registration.

Please check the website for further explanations.

Hiroshima

May 5th, 2010, 05:54 PM

Ako pod! xencya dili jud ko active.

Ejames

May 5th, 2010, 05:59 PM

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4580585309_4395d7b5f1.jpg

this is a 170 meter zipline
now.. they are working on a 400 meter zipline..
[available next month]

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beside the Avida showroom in IT park

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Ejames

May 5th, 2010, 06:02 PM

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AmbutLang

May 5th, 2010, 07:35 PM

nindot.

sir rob

May 6th, 2010, 12:52 AM

btw, im flying home soon, will be spending days in cebu. will stay in marriott but help, we wanted to go to plantation bay for a day, is it worth spending 2000php/pax ? are the foods nice, read somewhere its a bit pricey. the last time i went in cebu was 2002 if im not mistaken, i will surely see big changes when i get there.

-If it's still 2002, then you will see HUGE changes and not just big.. Went home July 2009, spent a week in the city and was amazed how different it was 2 years back (2007). Tall structures growing like mushrooms there and here, specially in Ayala area. SM has a new wing (which I like the concept) Ayala center had a renovation at the lagoon side (it's great a so nice there already).

sir rob

May 6th, 2010, 01:13 AM

mahinumdum malang ta ato diha sa may urgello nahugno nga building

-It brings back fresh in my memory that tragic day. Apil ko ato suong pangita sa natabunan og simhot sad sa baho sa mga patay. Spent 2 days for SAR and the remaining 3 days for retrieval.

habagatcentral1

May 6th, 2010, 02:03 AM

**nothing is wrong using ones photo in anyway provided that you use it in righteous way and when time comes, give credit to where/whom it is due...:cheers:

Are you kidding? Photo crediting is part of basic internet etiquette!

This is where the "fair use" clause of IPR comes in. This entitles the "borrowee" to use your photo (given the due credit) for educational and/or research purposes.

Here's a quote from the IPR code of the Philippines:
Sec. 185. Fair Use of a Copyrighted Work. -

185.1. The fair use of a copyrighted work for criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching including multiple copies for classroom use, scholarship, research, and similar purposes is not an infringement of copyright. Decompilation, which is understood here to be the reproduction of the code and translation of the forms of the computer program to achieve the inter-operability of an independently created computer program with other programs may also constitute fair use. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is fair use, the factors to be considered shall include:

(a) The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for non-profit education purposes;

(b) The nature of the copyrighted work;

(c) The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

(d) The effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

185.2 The fact that a work is unpublished shall not by itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.Whether special or not, the pictures are properties of the photographers and posting them here in SCC or in any other sharing sites make them available for downloading by people who may either use them for themselves or share them like they own them, even sometimes profiting from them. That's why it is for the best interest of the photographers to put all these identifying marks to limit possible usage without permission.

Try putting yourself in our shoes: what will you do if you will see your pictures printed on souvenir t-shirts that are for made for sale? Or when you see your photos on banners or advertisements? They are earning, you are not.

So, maybe next time you see a photo with the owner's watermark on it, instead of looking at it as an eyesore, try appreciating the effort that was put to capture it, because without these pictures, special or not, internet life would have been boring.
Mo-add lang ko bai,

They may be eyesores but they offer the best protection for the artist's or photographer's rights. Especially, in this country who undermines copyright ethics--we need to do the most obvious, prevalent and fool-proof protection.

That's where "All Rights Reserved" of a media material comes in. Because all rights of the owner to the media have been reserved. Naa right ang tag-iya sa picture kon unsay distribution, duplication, etc etc.

So basically, before judging them as eyesores, I hope some of them would think of putting themselves on their shoes first.

blueguy

May 6th, 2010, 02:06 AM

cool... pila ang entrance and overnight?

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leviaragon

May 6th, 2010, 02:35 AM

:)Camotes Island:)
travelcamotes.com

http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq338/leviaragon/dd-3.jpg

concern

May 6th, 2010, 02:36 AM

kinsa gusto maka agi sa tunnel section sa south coastal road (under plaza independencia?

sir paul pwede mka drive test sa tunnel?:banana:
uban dyud ko ani

Zuburbia

May 6th, 2010, 02:38 AM

kanus-a pasudlan ang tunnel? unsang orasa?

leviaragon

May 6th, 2010, 02:44 AM

:)Dive Camotes Island:)
discover the undiscovered

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Henz

May 6th, 2010, 02:51 AM

what's with all the watermark in the photos? there's nothing special in many of these photos.

Copyright. Most of them are susceptible to copyright infringement, most especially those who use the photos without the permission.

Whether it is something special or not, the owner of the media has the right over it since under the Philippine law, all media that is posted on the internet ARE ASSUMED to have a copyright. Even if it looks fugly or very common, since the photo was created by the photographer, he still have rights to do so.

The watermarks are just precautionary measures in an event that it'll be used unscrupulously, the owner has a strong evidence against the plaintiff. Because if the person used the photo knowing that someone owns it, ergo it is deliberately disregarding the copyright. Other than that, its also a medium for promotion and ownership.

haha. as if the cost of copyright litigation over these ordinary photographs is worth it. to me these types of watermarks are an eyesore. there are more subdued ways of using watermarks to protect copyright.

True true. It is indeed an eyesore. But this is the most vulgar way to say, "please do ask permission from the owner before using it." But anyway, one thing about it, there are simple photos that sometimes become one of the best--beauty is subjective. That is why, it is assumed that all photos are worthy of copyright protection.

Gahi ulo sa uban diri, mao na magbutang og watermark...even pro photographers do that too.

Bitaw, i aggree with lionell.. di sad ko ganhan anang dagko kaayong watermarks.. na mao na noon makabalda sa picture.. Imbis nindot kaayo ang picture unsaon na naa may watermarks na halos moparehas kadako sa na sa subject sa picture.. so medyo annoying na sya..

pede ra man seguro gamay ra gud to establish ownership sa picture.. either anha sa kilid sa pic but not on the front na jud sa pic...

it doesnt make sense taking good pictures unya ma obstruct lang sa watermarks.... di na noon ta kahbaw if nag take sya sa picture or nag advertise sya sa iyang kaugalingon.

para sa akoa its ok to have watermarks but moderate it na lang... sayang ang picture...

leviaragon

May 6th, 2010, 03:04 AM

habagatcentral1

May 6th, 2010, 03:40 AM

Bitaw, i aggree with lionell.. di sad ko ganhan anang dagko kaayong watermarks.. na mao na noon makabalda sa picture.. Imbis nindot kaayo ang picture unsaon na naa may watermarks na halos moparehas kadako sa na sa subject sa picture.. so medyo annoying na sya..

pede ra man seguro gamay ra gud to establish ownership sa picture.. either anha sa kilid sa pic but not on the front na jud sa pic...

it doesnt make sense taking good pictures unya ma obstruct lang sa watermarks.... di na noon ta kahbaw if nag take sya sa picture or nag advertise sya sa iyang kaugalingon.

para sa akoa its ok to have watermarks but moderate it na lang... sayang ang picture...

i agree, bati kaayo ang picture nga naay daghan vandal,
pareha sa koral ba, nindot kaayo tan awon kung way vandal, dili samok sa mata..

I guess, the win-win solution here would be putting subtle watermarks. Adding the transparency rate of the watermark and embed it. And I guess, the size of the watermark should be taken consideration as well, not to overpower the image itself.

But alas, Philippines doesn't have much consciousness over intellectual property rights, therefore even artists lament the watermark treatment as well.

Sleepwalker

May 6th, 2010, 05:05 AM

Kay wala man MovieWorld ang Robi sa Cebu, hinaot i-revive ni Gokongwei ang ilang Vision Theater sa Colon... :)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

May 6th, 2010, 06:03 AM

kinsa gusto maka agi sa tunnel section sa south coastal road (under plaza independencia?

sir @paul, ako muapil ko ana! kanusa man and what time? thanks sa info. ;)

bakasaurus

May 6th, 2010, 06:05 AM

Kay wala man MovieWorld ang Robi sa Cebu, hinaot i-revive ni Gokongwei ang ilang Vision Theater sa Colon... :)

Nindota kaha sa irestore ang Vision unya himuon nga carpeted theatre sa sulod. Damgo napod.. Haha.

DaVz

May 6th, 2010, 07:36 AM

congrats to sir baka for the banner..bsag dli sa cebu, proud ghapon kay cebuano ang ng shot....:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

bakasaurus

May 6th, 2010, 08:58 AM

congrats to sir baka for the banner..bsag dli sa cebu, proud ghapon kay cebuano ang ng shot....:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:
Hehe. Thanks! Suway-suway ra man submit. Will do a Cebu one when I get back.Dili man amazing ilaha skyline diri pero neat lang gyud ang lugar. It's also a relatively small city here and living conditions are much better than the large cities. And I'm lucky to have found a cheap apartment with this view.

OT: since separation of church and state is but a fairytale in the philippines, i think the next congress should include taxation of churches and religious groups in their agenda

That's a great idea! :lol:

rustyboi

May 6th, 2010, 10:34 AM

I'll give in to some members' request and will implement a zero-tolerance policy on politics-related discussion/posts here in Cebu thread for now. Let's see how things turn out. Such posts will be redirected to Halalan Thread or wherever it may be more appropriate. Please be advised. Thanks!

Eastern Dragon

May 6th, 2010, 11:13 AM

guys, dayon to nadayon ba tong SRP opening? any pics from that activity?

daghan na ba punuon didto or opaw gihapon mostly?

Jarenz

May 6th, 2010, 11:58 AM

kinsa gusto maka agi sa tunnel section sa south coastal road (under plaza independencia?

When & what time Sir Paul?!

congrats to sir baka for the banner..bsag dli sa cebu, proud ghapon kay cebuano ang ng shot....:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

Yup . . .

Congratz Jonathan :applause:

zidlakan

May 6th, 2010, 03:06 PM

kanus-a pasudlan ang tunnel? unsang orasa?When & what time Sir Paul?!

just wait for any news announcement. it maybe temporarily opened noon of
may 8 to noon of may 9, in conjunction with the launching of the SRP ... DPWH
has agreed already but we are still ironing out the conditions ... for safety and
security. don't know the status of their preparation, i'm in manila. but it
pushes through, it will be announced in the newspaper.

hedhere

May 6th, 2010, 05:12 PM

blueguy

May 6th, 2010, 05:17 PM

^^ lapit lang na...mga 30 minutes

diehardbisdak

May 6th, 2010, 05:21 PM

flickr pics by @jon_saulog

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4580911283_ae9773946e_b.jpg

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sir rob

May 6th, 2010, 07:06 PM

..effect nana sa taga gaisano capital nga gipadali.dali nila ang mga workers to open as early as april 30,2010..unsa jud ka hakog sa money..

--Ain't you not going to include the contractor of this project? Would they have equal liability with the owner of the project? Or include the local government perhaps, from it (on thet safety side I would say)?

sir rob

May 6th, 2010, 07:09 PM

Kana, kinsay pasanginlan sa Gaisano CEO, unya unsa ikasulti ni Mayor Tomas nga iyaharang parente ang mga Gaisano. :ohno: :nuts:

-We'll see how transparent he will be in this matter. But you know what, politics has it's own way out including the law they are making. Ain't that right?

Dili sa pagpanaway pero laina tan-awon nga gahubo ang construction worker uy. Dapat unta, fully dressed with id, close steel toed shoes and helmet.

Naa bay OSHA dinha? Luoy ang nangamatay. RIP. Naa ba kaha intawoy insurance nang mga workers.

-Safety ain't fully regulated (I'm evern crossing fingers if there are such), if there is, it's not implemented as well. How much more in the insurance..!! I think 90% (am I too drastic?) don't have insurance.

the incident occured at around 1 in the am. so, this is obviously what this worker wore to sleep. unless of course there is activity in the area 24/7.

ang walay uniform kana ra man sang minasyaw nga companies ug kanang mga workers nga sabot2x ra sa nagpahimo. mga trabahante sa primary usually complete uniform man. hasta nang workers sa grand cenia ay. complete uniform gyud na.

-Is PPE being used too? (the right and appropriate way?)

sir rob

May 6th, 2010, 07:22 PM

usa sa ako tiyo namatay ani nga hitabo-a[/COLOR][/B]

-Remember me..!!!? Sorry to hear about that. I can't resist not to remember that day, it's one of the biggest incident that I responded.

sir rob

May 6th, 2010, 07:30 PM

correct bai........ pero you know our tourism and airport officials is working hard for it.. labina nato si former DOT Regional Director na si Dawnie Roa... dako kaayo to syag effort.. but unfortunately.. babagan daw sa mga policy makers didto sa Manila..........

Wa may problema sa airline kay they are willing to gamble.. like for example kadto unta proposal sa Lufthansa for a direct flight to Cebu... wala jud to madayon kay perte jud babag sa mga taga Manila....also with PAL ang Cebupac...mobabag sad sila. :ohno:

-Is this the same with the news I heard (not a long back) that NAIA (or whatever the Manila airport's authority called) will take control over of MCIAA? Does anyone have recent news of this?

thats money matters. those kinds of business generate a lot of money. why would they allow other people especially in the south benefit from it. they'd rather want it for themselves.

a federal state of Cebu would be a better solution. coz the state will have more control over themselves.

-Profit is one but the most obvious is politics and bureaucracy. It's really hard to tame it but I guess having more control of our own is a wise solution, I believe.

sir rob

May 6th, 2010, 07:49 PM

kung mo biahe ka paduong sa Bogo unya matimingan ka sa fiesta sa mga kalunsoran, na murang kag nagsunod procesion. Mahimomg 3 ka oras ang bishe instead of 1 and a half hour. Mao na kada adto nako sa Bogo, 6 AM mobia na sa balay. :ohno: :nuts: :bash: :bash: :bash:

-1 1/2 hour going to Bogo? How fast you drive? From where is the starting point? I'm wondering..(really..!!)

sir rob

May 6th, 2010, 08:03 PM

cebu must speak for itself. there is also cebu envy among the visayan and mindanao islands. if they like to join our cause then theyre most welcome. we might not attain the status of a federated state but at least give cebu an autonomous status.

-Just like the ARMM...!!!

AmbutLang

May 6th, 2010, 08:05 PM

-1 1/2 hour going to Bogo? How fast you drive? From where is the starting point? I'm wondering..(really..!!)

Leaving my house in labangon at 5AM to reach Bogo San Vicente Church, the other house is just beside on a Saturday. :) after Danao sirit na basta way fiesta in between nga maagian.

sir rob

May 6th, 2010, 08:38 PM

And we will wait for Cebu's population to reach 10 million before we build bigger roads? :)

Certainly not ofcourse but the road infrastructure is being built now in Cebu according to it's needs right? Why build something that is designed for 10 million when the population itself is 1.8 million? It's similar to what we have discussed before about BRT vs LRT? Alot of our experts here in Cebu like Mr Zidlakan mentioned something about why BRT is wiser for CEbu instead of LRT, it's more cost effective and it addressed what is currently needed. Because if something is built excessively wouldn't be really wise.

-I've been into a country smaller than the Philippines or a little bit bigger than Cebu yet I saw 6-8 lane roads and the width is at international standards. And if we just base them on population, MM's inhabitants could be 4-5 times more yet they are building massive freeways. More to that, they are also making 4 lane overpass (not just one but 4) while the other end has no roads to go no where. The point is, they are making roads, infrastructure not just for the benefit of today's populace but for the 10-20 years to come. This is the main problem and the main hindrance when we tried to expand our roads. There's no way to expand it because there are already businesses on the sides and the so called road right of way. We all know that the population is growing so fast and there's no way that it will decline in a year or 2. There's no point of building smaller roads just because the population for now is just right for it, at least IMO.

sir rob

May 6th, 2010, 08:43 PM

Leaving my house in labangon at 5AM to reach Bogo San Vicente Church, the other house is just beside on a Saturday. :) after Danao sirit na basta way fiesta in between nga maagian.

-I cannot top you with such speed though I understand with the time, since it's not a rush hour yet. But I'm still interested to know your speed in travelling that far. I just can't arrived in Bogo on that time frame even coming from Talamban.

BTW, my parents are from Bogo. cheeers..!!

sir rob

May 6th, 2010, 08:50 PM

^^ imo, pasagdahan na lang na. basig nakalimot mo na tagawog country ni. :lol::lol::D

clarix nakaayo na long time pa nga ang taga norte dunay look down mentality sa taga south. we can not keep the status quo going unless magpapildi ta nila.

-Mao jud pero in some terms awahi biya na sila sa atoa. Like langgam og upa.. hahahaha:lol::lol: You know what I mean..!!!

dive-cebu

May 6th, 2010, 11:47 PM

thank you so much bai rusty! it's high time...

I'll give in to some members' request and will implement a zero-tolerance policy on politics-related discussion/posts here in Cebu thread for now. Let's see how things turn out. Such posts will be redirected to Halalan Thread or wherever it may be more appropriate. Please be advised. Thanks!

Mercato

May 7th, 2010, 12:01 AM

buajajaja... anaa ra man diay ning mga ampay nako :lol:
ergo, independence is best for the visayas :lol: sige, ampingi'g maayo nang atong bandera
we cebuanos had it enough na dyud !:bash: .. cebu contributed alot in the philippine economy and only a tiny fraction ma balik sa cebu :bash:

all the infrastructure projects almost didto ra tanan sa manila area

FEDERAL STATE OF CEBU OR CEBU REPUBLIC !:cheers: music to mah ears... puede sab Federal State usa with options for secession ... later
but Singapore before is a state of Malaysia... They separated from Malaysia...
Pwede sad igun ani mahitabi sa Sugbo... we don't know...
But a bit difference after the British rule in Singapore, leaders of the state decided to merge with the Federation of Malaya alongside Sabah and Sarawak to form Malaysia.

The union, however, was rocky from the start. Distrust and ideological differences between leaders of the State of Singapore and the federal government of Malaysia resulted in frequent disagreement in politics, economic, financial and social policies. The conflict spread to the populace, resulting in major racial riots in 1964 in Singapore. In 1965, Malaysia Prime Minister Tunku Abdul Rahman decided upon the secession of Singapore from the Federation, leading to the Independence of Singapore on 9 August 1965.

And it's a happy ending for everybody...
hrNQ0evgMWU Happy ending mo lang. Tungod kay I noted that Cebuanos tend to instinctively choose wise leaders. Dili parejas ana'ng uban nga nagkatibuwa'ag pataka lang og pagpili. :lol:

MatudNilaBaby

May 7th, 2010, 12:26 AM

buajajaja... anaa ra man diay ning mga ampay nako :lol:
sige, ampingi'g maayo nang atong bandera
music to mah ears... puede sab Federal State usa with options for secession ... later
Happy ending mo lang. Tungod kay I noted that Cebuanos tend to instinctively choose wise leaders. Dili parejas ana'ng uban nga nagkatibuwa'ag pataka lang og pagpili. :lol:

so far we dont have local leaders that espoused or broach the idea of a federated cebu state in congress or senate. maayo unta ni nga huna2x kon during marcos or martial law era nga wala gyud grasya nadawat ang cebu. pero karon nga nag-una ang cebu sa economic growth and development sa atong nasud mo ug lisud ebuwag kon walay kasamok nga mahitabo

Mercato

May 7th, 2010, 01:00 AM

so far we dont have local leaders that espoused or broach the idea of a federated cebu state in congress or senate. maayo unta ni nga huna2x kon during marcos or martial law era nga wala gyud grasya nadawat ang cebu. pero karon nga nag-una ang cebu sa economic growth and development sa atong nasud mo ug lisud ebuwag kon walay kasamok nga mahitabo time is on our side. :) the awakening... dili malalim nga tarong man mopili og mga lider ang mga sugbuanon, kugihan ug hardworking motrabaho sab mao nga rapido ang development. Apan pait hunahunaon nga kita dagko og buwis, unya pataka la'g pili og lider ni'ng mga silingan sa ubang regions og ang Sugbo mao'y mo-finance unya (dakog porsiyento sa tax) sa ilang pagkakulang. I think Cebuanos should have greater say on how the hard earned taxes should be spent - key to it is greater & even greater federal autonomy. ;) dili ba to battlecry sa imong bag-ong nasud ron kaniadto - taxation without representation is tyranny... or in our case - an ever diluted representation. :D

Mercato

May 7th, 2010, 01:25 AM

Not all states in the US gets taxed twice. I live in Florida and I only pay the federal income tax (and so does the states of Alaska, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming), we have no state income taxes since we get that funding from the "tourist tax" (from hotel rooms, restaurants, theme parks and local attractions, etc.) that they pay whenever they come visit Florida. Perfect. :) Thanks for the example...
I think its not about if there will be two taxes (federal and state). the biggest benefit being a federated state is that the state controls most of its money. i think the amount of money that will stay with the state is bigger than what is given to the Federal Gvt.

I think one problem with the current system is that the money goes through many hands. money is sent to the national government then divided and sent back to the provinces as IRA (internal revenue allotment). i dont think its very efficient coz its prone to corruption.

ARMM is as they say autonomous, but they still have IRA.

"Despite its "autonomous" nature, the ARMM receives approximately 98% of its operating revenue from the National Government of the Philippines, and has yet to create significant, viable sources of additional revenue." - from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Region_in_Muslim_Mindanao

the state or provinces whatever it will be called. should be given the responsibility to generate and handle there money. not the central govt. i think that is the main essence of being a federated state. Corecto! What I've been sayin'. Who pays the bill for these underperforming provinces? If 98% comes from the Nat'l Gov't, how much of that 98% comes from Cebu, aver? Another example. The German people today are crying foul for doling out money to rescue an underperforming Greek economy...

Corecto! What's the point of havin lawmakers if they can't make the laws? :colgate: The state should control a larger portion of the money it generates. After all, isn't this the spirit & essence of free enterprise? :colgate:

habagatcentral1

May 7th, 2010, 01:28 AM

^^ So what will happen to under performing provinces? Any suggestions @Nyor Mercato?

Mercato

May 7th, 2010, 01:36 AM

^^ the national gov't still has to rescue the underperformers *sigh groan grumble* but there has to be a limit to doleouts. The Nat Gov should also teach them to swim or sink. What do you think of competition and free enterprise? Wasn't it why the West won over the Soviet bloc during the Cold War? Heavily subsidized & inefficient entities are always a burden... :)

habagatcentral1

May 7th, 2010, 01:40 AM

^^ So basically, states have to be bigger than the existing provinces right?

Mercato

May 7th, 2010, 02:02 AM

AmbutLang

May 7th, 2010, 02:05 AM

so far we dont have local leaders that espoused or broach the idea of a federated cebu state in congress or senate. maayo unta ni nga huna2x kon during marcos or martial law era nga wala gyud grasya nadawat ang cebu. pero karon nga nag-una ang cebu sa economic growth and development sa atong nasud mo ug lisud ebuwag kon walay kasamok nga mahitabo

kinahanglan gyud ibalik ang highly urbanized city to vote the governor's office. It was done by Marcos to separate the urbanized city's vote from voting the provincial governor. :bash: And look what the system for senatorial seat has to do, He has to campaign all over the Philippines for the seat. If it is a federated state the senator has to compaign only in their particular province or state. :ohno:

marxman

May 7th, 2010, 02:47 AM

^^ So what will happen to under performing provinces? Any suggestions @Nyor Mercato?

for under performing states. it should be gradual. in its first 5 years 50% of its income will come from the Central Gvt. then 10years will be 20%. sakto c @mercato. its either sink or swim.

try to play simcity. if the city is not well managed. for sure you wont have that big population. people tend to migrate to well managed cities. well managed cities means more income!!!

Federalism will give birth to the culture of innovation for our leaders.

Federalism is the SOLUTION!!!

flesh_is_weak

May 7th, 2010, 03:00 AM

^^ are we talkin of a federal state (& not the State as a country?)

Then that has to be discussed by the constituents... but on a personal note, I would prefer *again personally* a federal state to be drawn along ethnolinguistic lines. Which is basically what we now got in the current Regional setup anyway. Region 7 comprises the Cebuano speakin provinces of Cebu, Negros Oriental, Bohol & Siquijor. Yuna pa, apil ba tong southern Leyte nato, o dili?

OT: ganahan ko nga national anthem nato ang English-version sa Philippine National Anthem~ wa bitaw na gi-angkan sa Pilipinas as ilaha, and besides, our federation would be an English-speaking country :lol:

Sleepwalker

May 7th, 2010, 03:33 AM

leylander

May 7th, 2010, 04:03 AM

just wait for any news announcement. it maybe temporarily opened noon of
may 8 to noon of may 9, in conjunction with the launching of the SRP ... DPWH
has agreed already but we are still ironing out the conditions ... for safety and
security. don't know the status of their preparation, i'm in manila. but it
pushes through, it will be announced in the newspaper.

@sir paul, i guess it's a GO!

Tunnel opens May 8 for SRP launch

THE South Coastal Road tunnel will open on May 8 to 9 to allow vehicles immediate access to the South Road Properties (SRP) where several activities will be held during Sunday’s grand launching of the SRP.
But Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña said only light vehicles would be allowed to pass through the tunnel.

He said the opening of the tunnel would only be temporary. “We have the approval to open the tunnel, 24 hours only, for the launching of the SRP,” the mayor said.

The tunnel will be open from noon on May 8 until noon the next day.

Full story here (http://www.cdn.ph/photostore/news_details.php?id=5890)

bakasaurus

May 7th, 2010, 04:22 AM

OT:

Ini'g ka federal state nato, makig contrata dayon ta sa atong mga local nga mga shipbuilders, pabuhat ta og mga patrol boats ug battle ships. Unya, kung makaya sa budget, palit dayon ta og mga Raptors, tangke de guerra ug uban pang kahimanan nga panggubat.

Aron kita dayon ang katag... :lol:

hahahaha. Ataka nimo bai. Buntag pa kaayo panggubatay na man kaayo ka.

But I do agree, I go for the federalization of the Philippines, and best drawn on ethnolinguistic lines.

Bahin sa underperforming provinces, it would be like a child weaning from the parent. It should be done gradually but eventually, the kid has to grow up!:cheers:

leylander

May 7th, 2010, 05:10 AM

hahahaha. Ataka nimo bai. Buntag pa kaayo panggubatay na man kaayo ka.

But I do agree, I go for the federalization of the Philippines, and best drawn on ethnolinguistic lines.

Bahin sa underperforming provinces, it would be like a child weaning from the parent. It should be done gradually but eventually, the kid has to grow up!:cheers:

but what happens when, due to some unknown forces, the kid just doesn't grow up? lol

Ejames

May 7th, 2010, 05:14 AM

bai kamo na lng tagay-tagay sa lain-laing mga thread.. salamat..
[nagmamadali mode]

elizabeth hotel
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hongkong plaza hotel
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insular life
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crown regency expansion??
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Robinson's Cebu renovation??
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Chong Hua Parking Bldg
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Ejames

May 7th, 2010, 05:23 AM

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Ejames

May 7th, 2010, 05:26 AM

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Ejames

May 7th, 2010, 05:27 AM

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leylander

May 7th, 2010, 05:28 AM

very good job, @james. thanks!

the hotel looks gaudy now. lol. i can't wait to see the interiors. it's going to look like christmas because of tessa prieto! hahahaha.

Sleepwalker

May 7th, 2010, 05:36 AM

but what happens when, due to some unknown forces, the kid just doesn't grow up? lol

Filipinos, fragmented as we are, still believes in the spirit of bayanihan. Other siblings can start to support that kid until he learns to grow up. If he still fails to grow, then fusing him to one of his siblings is the best option.

leylander

May 7th, 2010, 05:48 AM

OT: Kinsay kabalo unsa nang nahitabo sa sun nato karon. weird lagi. Naay rainbow. hehehe

ivanc

May 7th, 2010, 05:51 AM

mao gyud kuyaw kaayo..

animasola

May 7th, 2010, 06:09 AM

flesh_is_weak

May 7th, 2010, 06:12 AM

OT: Kinsay kabalo unsa nang nahitabo sa sun nato karon. weird lagi. Naay rainbow. hehehe

nalimbawot man kalit akong balhibo ana...but it's probably just a solar halo, formed from ice crystals in the atmosphere~

or it could be a sign from above~ good or bad? idk~~

concern

May 7th, 2010, 06:16 AM

guys, try to go outside from your office, and you'll find this up in the sky.. kind of weird.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4585995976_7c188c2294_o.jpg

leylander

May 7th, 2010, 06:17 AM

Guys, mangutana lang ko.

Which is better?

Camotes or Bantayan?

With regards to overall experience ah. I heard na mas nindot daw ang beaches sa Camotes pero mas isolated. Ang Bantayan sad, daghan kaayo mabuhat. So I'm kinda torn, can you help me?

kaw na lang mag-igo bai:

Camotes:

Cebu to Danao - 1 hour / 25 pesos
Danao to Camotes - 1.5 hours / 180 pesos
Accomm: 1000 min per room for two
Food: resto (80 up) or local market
Spots: Lake Danao, Timubo Cave, Santiago Bay, etc

Bantayan:

Cebu to Hagnaya: 3 hours/50 pesos
Hagnaya to Santa Fe: 1 hour/ 150 pesos
Accomm: pitch tents at 35 pesos. room rates start at 500
Food: resto (120 up) or local market
Spots: beach

Jarenz

May 7th, 2010, 06:19 AM

Strange Rainbow around the sun

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animasola

May 7th, 2010, 06:20 AM

habagatcentral1

May 7th, 2010, 06:27 AM

guys, try to go outside from your office, and you'll find this up in the sky.. kind of weird.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4585995976_7c188c2294_o.jpg

Strange Rainbow around the sun

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/djxd2/rainbowinthesun1.jpg

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@Slerz/Boy Muscovado, is this a case where ice crystals in the upper atmosphere occur? Or is it an effect from the Iceland explosion?

animasola

May 7th, 2010, 06:35 AM

Guys, naa barato nga apartelle/pension house or cheap hotel na duol sa Fuente? Kanang good for large groups of People. :)

Thanks!

SleMarKen

May 7th, 2010, 06:35 AM

leylander

May 7th, 2010, 06:37 AM

^^Sa Bantayan naa man gud island hopping padung virgin island, niya pwede paluto sa mga locals ug fresh foods (tried this before). Niya daghan nasad establishments para mupalit ug lami na kaon and stuff, ug inom sad. hehe

Daghan ba sad establishments sa Camotes or ang imo resort ra jud imo ma adtoan?

the ssc-cebu boys went to virgin island over the weekend. mahal man kaayo. pero tinuod na. pwede magpaluto.

sa camotes, didto mi sa mangodlong. sulit man sad ilang resort kay lami gyud ang food. naa man pud sa merkado. naa pud didto sa santiago.

tj_brewed

May 7th, 2010, 06:47 AM

JPMorgan sets up global service center
Sunstar Cebu (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/jpmorgan-sets-global-service-center)

JPMorgan Chase & Co., a leading global financial services firm, formally opened its newest Global Service Center Wednesday, located in the eBloc tower at the Asiatown IT Park in Cebu City.

The new state-of-the-art facility, encompassing over 133,000 square feet with nearly 1800 seats, features a recruitment center on the building’s 7th floor, administrative offices, training rooms, a full service cafeteria and break out rooms.

It is outfitted to the highest international standards with ergonomically designed furniture and a layout that offers employees low per person density and an emphasis on high work environment standards.

Within five years, JPMorgan Chase & Co. has established four service centers in the Philippines—three located in Metro Manila, and now one in Cebu City, supporting five of the company’s six global lines of business.

“By expanding our operations with our new facility here in Cebu City, we continue to tap the tremendous pool of talent available in the Philippines. I look forward to continued operational excellence and great accomplishments by our employees here in Cebu,” said Cebu Center Manager, Bob Halpern.

^^ To set the record straight, JP Morgan isnt a call center, we are a global financial institution with its back office here in the philippines that does research, documentation, treasuries, fraud analysis, collections, customer support, and more. It's not outsourced, ppl working at JPMC are direct employees of JPMC in the US thus they can opt to apply and transfer to our sites in the US or wherever globally (if they meet the requirements). ^^

SleMarKen

May 7th, 2010, 06:51 AM

@Slerz/Boy Muscovado, is this a case where ice crystals in the upper atmosphere occur? Or is it an effect from the Iceland explosion?

Jan Warren
ok ra ang sun diha sa Malaysia Sir?

12:35pmMe
Same Sir...

with halo

12:36pmJan Warren
ngano kaha ni noh

12:37pmMe
for me, it's about the mixing of different particles. The natural particles and the volcanic particles from iceland now revolving around the world

Jan Warren
nice explanation

12:44pmMe
pero mostly, made of water particles and ice crystals that reflects each other like prism... but this is a normal phenomenon... happened many times na...

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

May 7th, 2010, 06:53 AM

thanks sa pics sir @ejames. wala ko magdahom humana diay napintalan ang exteriors sa elizabeth hotel! nice! :cheers:

OT:

Ini'g ka federal state nato, makig contrata dayon ta sa atong mga local nga mga shipbuilders, pabuhat ta og mga patrol boats ug battle ships. Unya, kung makaya sa budget, palit dayon ta og mga Raptors, tangke de guerra ug uban pang kahimanan nga panggubat.

Aron kita dayon ang katag... :lol:

waaaaaaaaaaa...... grabe! unsa'y kagubot dinhi! :lol::lol::nuts::nuts::lol::nuts::lol::nuts::lol::nuts::lol::nuts::lol::nuts:

@slerz: WOW! nagnosebleed gyud ko! :nuts::lol::banana::lol::banana:

tj_brewed

May 7th, 2010, 06:53 AM

Jan Warren
ok ra ang sun diha sa Malaysia Sir?

12:35pmMe
Same Sir...

with halo

12:36pmJan Warren
ngano kaha ni noh

12:37pmMe
for me, it's about the mixing of different particles. The natural particles and the volcanic particles from iceland now revolving around the world

Jan Warren
nice explanation

12:44pmMe
pero mostly, made of water particles and ice crystals that reflects each other like prism... but this is a normal phenomenon... happened many times na...

^^ Slerz gisunggo ko...:D

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

May 7th, 2010, 06:56 AM

^^
korek! :D

habagatcentral1

May 7th, 2010, 06:57 AM

SleMarKen

May 7th, 2010, 07:01 AM

lol... pag sure kuno mo... basig si Gibb na or si Mark ang nag explain...:D:D

@berns, no halo in Manila meaning it's not about the volcanic ash...

Jarenz

May 7th, 2010, 07:10 AM

^^ Gi-apil pa man ug post ang conversation :nuts:

SleMarKen

May 7th, 2010, 07:11 AM

^^lol, wa ko kabantay:lol::lol:

May 8 na ugma... mangadto mo's SRP mga Lakawboys?

Henz

May 7th, 2010, 07:21 AM

leylander

May 7th, 2010, 07:21 AM

gabanaw ang dugo sa among mga ilong slerz. hahaha

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

May 7th, 2010, 07:23 AM

^^
waaaaa, grabe nasad nang nagbanaw sir @ley, magabuno na ta'g dugo ani! :lol::nuts:

SleMarKen

May 7th, 2010, 07:36 AM

nag sturyaanay nasad mog dugo, mga hadlokan raba mong dagko... wapa gani mo kita sa multo managan namo ig agi ninyo sa Padgett Place...:nuts:

Top off na ning chong hua?
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Jarenz

May 7th, 2010, 07:39 AM

^^lol, wa ko kabantay:lol::lol:

May 8 na ugma... mangadto mo's SRP mga Lakawboys?

sabotan pa . . .

Mag campaign sortie man gud ang BPOK didto. . . Medyo pamolitika na sad

Na defeat ang purpose sa Festival:ohno:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

May 7th, 2010, 07:40 AM

lahi kaha nang dugo og unggo slerz! :nuts:

murag wala pa magtop-off...:D

Jarenz

May 7th, 2010, 07:42 AM

Whatever Happened to the Hole in the Ozone Layer?

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/ww/news/2010/05/06/050610ozone.jpg

Stuart Fox
Life's Little Mysteries Staff Writer
LiveScience.com Stuart Fox
life's Little Mysteries Staff Writer
livescience.com – Thu May 6, 8:50 am ET

Three British scientists shocked the world when they revealed on May 16th, 1985 - 25 years ago - that aerosol chemicals, among other factors, had torn a hole in the ozone layer over the South Pole. The ozone layer, which protects life on Earth from damaging solar radiation, became an overnight sensation. And the hole in the ozone layer became the poster-child for mankind's impact on the planet.

Today, the ozone hole - actually a region of thinned ozone, not actually a pure hole - doesn't make headlines like it used to. The size of the hole has stabilized, thanks to decades of aerosol-banning legislation. But, scientists warn, some danger still remains.

First, the good news: Since the 1989 Montreal Protocol banned the use of ozone-depleting chemicals worldwide, the ozone hole has stopped growing. Additionally, the ozone layer is blocking more cancer-causing radiation than any time in a decade because its average thickness has increased, according to a 2006 United Nations report. Atmospheric levels of ozone-depleting chemicals have reached their lowest levels since peaking in the 1990s, and the hole has begun to shrink.

Now the bad news: The ozone layer has also thinned over the North Pole. This thinning is predicted to continue for the next 15 years due to weather-related phenomena that scientists still cannot fully explain, according to the same UN report . And, repairing the ozone hole over the South Pole will take longer than previously expected, and won't finish until between 2060 and 2075. Scientists now understand that the size of the ozone hole varies dramatically from year to year, which complicates attempts to accurately predict the hole's future size.

Interestingly, recent studies have shown that the size of the ozone hole affects the global temperature. Closing the ozone hole actually speeds up the melting of the polar ice caps, according to a 2009 study from Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research.

So even though environmentally friendly laws have successfully reversed the trend of ozone depletion, the lingering effects of aerosol use, and the link between the ozone hole and global warming, virtually ensure that this problem will persist until the end of the century.

technoblaze

May 7th, 2010, 07:58 AM

lowellflores

May 7th, 2010, 08:06 AM

nice shoot technoblaze nakita ko ni sa amo balay nahangadhangad ko ani.

Henz

May 7th, 2010, 08:27 AM

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akong nabantayan ani.. daan na jud ang building sa USC.. wa pa jud diay na sila mag renovation sa?

Jarenz

May 7th, 2010, 08:37 AM

Miss Mandaue 2010

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Serenade by Erik Santos

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ivanc

May 7th, 2010, 12:11 PM

The opening of SM Prime Holdings' Radisson Blu Hotel Cebu has been moved to September from its original date in July, an official said.

Grant J. Gaskin, general manager of Radisson Blu Hotel Cebu, said construction delays prompted the change in launch date.

“We are at 75 percent complete in the construction stage but the 25 percent remaining will really make a huge difference to what you are seeing right now,” he said.

Gaskin added that the core manpower requirement of the hotel—management personnel and service crews—was already in place.

“We have already hired around 390 people, who include the core management people, but we expect to grow this number once we are fully operating.”

During his last visit to Cebu in January this year, SMPHI president Hans Sy said that they have spent around P2.8 billion for the renovation of the former Sheraton Hotel, which never started operations.

“This hotel has about 400 rooms and is turning out to be better than the five-star hotels we find in Manila,” Sy said.

Gaskin said the lobby of the hotel was meant to make an impression on visiting guests.

“This will be a corporate and conference hotel, so the lobby in itself is already set to accommodate at least 600 seats for those who would like to have business meetings there. Expect also conference rooms with state-of-the-art facilities in the hotel.”

With Cebu's industries booming and fast reviving from the recent global economic melt down, Gaskin said they are very optimisitic about the hotel’s prospects.

“We are confident about the industry and whole economic health of Cebu and we are very excited to finally launch and offer our services to Cebu.”

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/enterprise/view/20100507-268584/SMs-Cebu-hotel-opening-moved-to-September

diehardbisdak

May 7th, 2010, 12:19 PM

^ i hope dili mohilom na lang ni ang Radisson og di na gyud madayon..hehehe!

weewit

May 7th, 2010, 12:24 PM

diehardbisdak

May 7th, 2010, 12:28 PM

Congratulations to "Princess Angela Abella of Cebu City - Winner of Slimmer's World: Miss Bikini Philippines 2010"

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concern

May 7th, 2010, 01:43 PM

my share of the sun halo ..:)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/4586444634_51c696d388.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/4586445248_712e2bdc14.jpg

Kinda weird. but surely a nice scene to see...:)

A halo (ἅλως; also known as a nimbus, icebow or Gloriole) is an optical phenomenon produced by ice crystals creating colored or white arcs and spots in the sky. Many are near the sun or moon but others are elsewhere and even in the opposite part of the sky. They can also form around artificial lights in very cold weather when ice crystals called diamond dust are floating in the nearby air.

There are many types of ice halos. They are produced by the ice crystals in cirrus clouds high (5–10 km, or 3–6 miles) in the upper troposphere. The particular shape and orientation of the crystals is responsible for the type of halo observed. Light is reflected and refracted by the ice crystals and may split up into colors because of dispersion. The crystals behave like prisms and mirrors, refracting and reflecting sunlight between their faces, sending shafts of light in particular directions.

Atmospheric phenomena such as halos were used as part of weather lore as an empirical means of weather forecasting before meteorology was developed.

Other common optical phenomena involving water droplets rather than ice crystals include the glory and the rainbow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_%28optical_phenomenon%29

AmbutLang

May 7th, 2010, 02:25 PM

then, ato dayo e invade ang Bohol, Camiguin, Leyte...... hala nindota gud ani:lol::lol:

Invade nato ug inum. :cheers: :cheers2: :lol:

sir rob

May 7th, 2010, 03:11 PM

but what happens when, due to some unknown forces, the kid just doesn't grow up? lol

-Well, wa nata mabuhat ana kung dili sila mobarog sa ilang kaugalingong tiil. Di man sad pwede nga hangtod 10 years old mag sige lang totoy ang bata sa iyang mama, di ba?

sir rob

May 7th, 2010, 03:35 PM

Yeah, we passed that tunnel... very long... 12 kilometers to be exact nga way putol putol. And before and after that 12 kilometer stretch, daghan pang shorter tunnels... A very risky method but they've done it knowing that Taiwan is an earthquake prone country...
The 3rd longest tunnel in the world...

-5th longest rana cya...

*Laerdal Tunnel - 24.5 km
*Zhongnanshan Tunnel - 18.04 km
*St. Gotthard Tunnel - 16.91 km
*Arlberg Tunnel - 13.97 km
*Hsuehshan Tunnel - 12.94 km

sir rob

May 7th, 2010, 04:15 PM

^^My say on federalism, I guess, it is better for Cebu government to make a secret deal with Aboitiz to build battle ships. Then, when all things are set, let's propose federalization once again, and if things won't work in a diplomatic way, let's try a little more harsh way.

Anyway, in my knowledge, Philippines only have remote controlled aircraft for air force and outriggered boat for navy. As for Philippine Army, nah! The generals are not that ballsy to fight. They are more interested in selling guns and ammunitions, than to bleed. They can not even wipe out the extremists in Basilan.

Just kidding... :D

-But could also be true, right?!!!:banana:

sir rob

May 7th, 2010, 04:35 PM

makasuya kaayo!!! kanus.a kaha m.in.ani ang cebu noh?

-Which one? Wider roads or the other one? If it's the former then Cebu will have a bigger problem.

sir rob

May 7th, 2010, 04:48 PM

^^hala, ang balay sa tunga nasunog... mapalit na gyud na ni king nang yutaa diha...lol

-Basin gipasunog na aron dali og barato ra ang bayranan ana..!!

sir rob

May 7th, 2010, 05:53 PM

OT: Is this really a typo error or a lack of researchability from the journalist. Sometimes it lacks respect from what they wrote and I don't know whether to believe them or not. Knowing that we depend on them at some point.

The Emergency and Rescue Unit Foundation (Eruf) attempted to revive the priest but failed. Doctors declared him dead upon reaching the Perpetual Succor Hospital.(Ian Joplin Virrey/UP Intern/Sunnex)

flesh_is_weak

May 7th, 2010, 05:53 PM

then, ato dayo e invade ang Bohol, Camiguin, Leyte...... hala nindota gud ani:lol::lol:

they will join us, parehas ra baya ta nga mga Bisaya...pero kung di, well invasion gyud na padung, we need their resources :lol:

and so, the newly independent Cebu will become another imperialist power, how ironic :ohno:

marxman

May 7th, 2010, 06:18 PM

Federal State of Cebu is Enough... hehe... kamo jud! pasobraan pd ninyo... over patriotic kaayo mo sa atong Cebu Motherland or Fatherland?

bakasaurus

May 7th, 2010, 07:47 PM

they will join us, parehas ra baya ta nga mga Bisaya...pero kung di, well invasion gyud na padung, we need their resources :lol:

and so, the newly independent Cebu will become another imperialist power, how ironic :ohno:

Of course, ingana gyud na ang pattern. Its Orwell's Animal Farm right? Hehe/

sir rob

May 7th, 2010, 08:07 PM

mora ug mabaw2x nang kanang atbang sa srp, basin mao na pud na isunod ug reclaim kon ma fully develop na gyud ang srp. the question kon kinsa na sakop sa cebu city ba or lapu2x or talisay.:bash::bash::bash:

-Mora og Cordova na....!!! Naa baya to plano si Tomas nga apilon ang Cordova sa Cebu City nya butangan og taytayan..

sir rob

May 7th, 2010, 08:18 PM

gloomy kaayo tan.awn ang kana nga part sa colon.

mayta ila na paninduton.

-Nindot hinoon nacya, para mura cya old style bah..!! Murag Wild west og dating..!!

sir rob

May 7th, 2010, 08:40 PM

Congrats diay sa representative sa Sinulog Festival of Cebu City.

Reyna ng Aliwan 2010 na pud ang taga Cebu. Si Ms. Rizzini Gomez.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3435/3196497247_865fb5510f.jpg

Last year, Reyna ng Aliwan pud si Sian Maynard (Miss Cebu 2008)

http://www.itsngenius.com/photos/albums/uploads/rio2/121407/Ms%20Cebu%202008//%2310/normal_Candidate_%2310_Sian_Elizabeth_S__Maynard_05.jpg

Usa na lang, grandslam na pud ang Sinulog Festival. (Grandslam na ta sa Street Dance Categ tungod sa triple win sa Lumad Basakanon) :)

-Kinahanglan nga candidate number 12 ang taga Cebu ani next year..!!!

sir rob

May 7th, 2010, 08:43 PM

KM33
Kilometer 33, Balamban, Cebu
Cebu's newest 500-meter zipline

Awesome!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4552123372_9f35eb468a.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/4552147102_815d8b52f6.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3506/4552121744_50f8e0617e.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3653/4552147966_a393c05fdf.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4552400859_1ff666ab31.jpg

-Nindot ni duawon inig uli nako next year..!!!

Mercato

May 8th, 2010, 02:57 AM

I fully support freedom of speech and free expression. I dunno about some here...

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss240/sherwinm26/CebuProvincialCapitol.jpg Aaah, I see you are from Daraga! As in Daraga, Albay? A visitor and a newbie at that! (like me!:lol:) Welcome and thanks for that pic. I have not personally seen the Capitol myself for like, more than 7 years already...

Mercato

May 8th, 2010, 03:06 AM

OT: ganahan ko nga national anthem nato ang English-version sa Philippine National Anthem~ wa bitaw na gi-angkan sa Pilipinas as ilaha, and besides, our federation would be an English-speaking country :lol: Well, I prefer to sing the Sugbuanon version instead. Pero yuna pa, I have often wondered why its title is Yutang Tabonon nga what I know about Tabonon is to lubong or ilubong tabonan?? Nganong tabonan man, nag naa pede man Yutang Natawhan? Wa lang naglibog ko?

habagatcentral1

May 8th, 2010, 03:07 AM

To all SSC CEB members.
Please help Google in mapping the precincts in Cebu Province. A lot hasn't been plotted yet. Finding the precinct is easy if you have the local knowledge. Most of urban Cebu City's precincts have been mapped, however there are still lots of precincts left un-plotted.

Please help at http://www.findyourprecinct.ph/

Just follow these simple steps:
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5668/google1l.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4559/google2v.jpg

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6302/google3.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7259/google4w.jpg

This is one way in helping our kababayans find their precinct. This would be also used by some local and national media.
Thanks and have a peaceful election day ahead! :)

blueguy

May 8th, 2010, 03:08 AM

@Slerz/Boy Muscovado, is this a case where ice crystals in the upper atmosphere occur? Or is it an effect from the Iceland explosion?

guys, try to go outside from your office, and you'll find this up in the sky.. kind of weird.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4585995976_7c188c2294_o.jpg

Jan Warren
ok ra ang sun diha sa Malaysia Sir?

12:35pmMe
Same Sir...

with halo

12:36pmJan Warren
ngano kaha ni noh

12:37pmMe
for me, it's about the mixing of different particles. The natural particles and the volcanic particles from iceland now revolving around the world

Jan Warren
nice explanation

12:44pmMe
pero mostly, made of water particles and ice crystals that reflects each other like prism... but this is a normal phenomenon... happened many times na...

22º radius halos are visible all over the world and throughout the year. Look out for them (eye care!) whenever the sky is wisped or hazed with thin cirrus clouds. These clouds are cold and contain ice crystals in even the hottest climes.

The halo is large. Stretch out the fingers of your hand at arms length. The tips of the thumb and little finger then subtend roughly 20°. Place your thumb over the the sun and the halo will be near the little finger tip.

The halo is always the same diameter regardless of its position in the sky. Sometimes only parts of the complete circle are visible.

Much smaller coloured rings around the sun or moon are a corona produced by water droplets rather than ice crystals.

High cirrostratus cloud forms the halo and this same cloud is on the advancing edge of warm fronts with their associated heavy rain. If a wind stirs from the south west, the sky becomes hazy, a halo forms around the sun which is then dimmed and finally obscured by increasingly thick cloud then rain is likely within a few hours. But many halos are not associated with frontal systems and to see one is not a reliable sign of bad weather. They are things of beauty, not bad news.

blueguy

May 8th, 2010, 03:31 AM

wrong post...just check Halalan thread

zidlakan

May 8th, 2010, 03:52 AM

Well, I prefer to sing the Sugbuanon version instead. Pero yuna pa, I have often wondered why its title is Yutang Tabonon nga what I know about Tabonon is to lubong or ilubong tabonan?? Nganong tabonan man, nag naa pede man Yutang Natawhan? Wa lang naglibog ko?

"tabonon" in cebuano means brown. so "yutang tabobon" can be loosely
translated as "brown earth" or "brown soil" or "native land" (kay mga brown man
tawon ta, di man ta puti o itom, he he he) ...

zidlakan

May 8th, 2010, 06:11 AM

Cebu South Coastal Road, 3B-2 Section (Tunnel) is now open for light vehicles,
5 - 10 kph allowed speed, and will close in 23 hours and 49 min (12 noon,
tomorrow, sunday, may 9, 2010). it will probably be opened permanently in
two month's time. ride on ...

cebuboi

May 8th, 2010, 06:44 AM

pls....picture nya sa open nga tunnel:cheers::cheers:

Henz

May 8th, 2010, 08:41 AM

bakasaurus

May 8th, 2010, 09:33 AM

hahaha.. in jest ra ni bai ha.. hehehe

Oist bai Henz, what are you waiting for? Nganong naa pa man ka diri. Adto na sa tunnel oi.. Hahahaha.:lol:

Henz

May 8th, 2010, 09:36 AM

mag unsa ko didto? abli na diay? Nag wait ra ko naa roy.. Interfaith Rally at 6:30 PM sa Capitol Grounds.

Greenies, Guys, see you there.. Lets show our force!!

concern

May 8th, 2010, 09:43 AM

KLAXXON

May 8th, 2010, 10:06 AM

Just wanna ask lang peeps, asa ko kasakay free ride padung SRP unya? i wanna watch katong fireworks record attempt. until what time sad and free ride? mga 7 pa mi mangadto sa ako kauban.

hakz2007

May 8th, 2010, 11:45 AM

Welcome to Thread 98! :cheers:

Keep posting mga bai :okay:

Link to Thread 97 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=623368&page=3377)

AmbutLang

May 8th, 2010, 12:24 PM

Klaxxon :Just wanna ask lang peeps, asa ko kasakay free ride padung SRP unya? i wanna watch katong fireworks record attempt. until what time sad and free ride? mga 7 pa mi mangadto sa ako kauban.

Naa sa Ayala & Fuente -kaoshong if I'm not mistaken. Five(5) locations ang free pick-up that I'm sure. :banana: :cheers: :)

weewit

May 8th, 2010, 03:04 PM

cebuboi

May 8th, 2010, 03:25 PM

Welcome to the SRP tunnel!!! :) :banana::banana::banana::banana:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4589076890_a94f7321d3.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4588456531_c83ba8be51.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4588457463_69fed27644.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4589077484_4fa0d344f2.jpg

Its really out of this country feeling...:) :banana::banana:

**pintalanan pa na ang kilid o ing-ana na lang gyud na cya wlay pintal...maau pud sad unta pintalan para limpyo sad tan-awon mas labi pa gyud ug i tiles para mas nindot aninawon pero dreaming na lng cguro ang tiling...^^

SineBuano

May 8th, 2010, 03:43 PM

Just awesome.

Jeffreyw

May 8th, 2010, 03:51 PM

Yey! Finally, officially opened na ang subway. Can't wait to take photos!

weewit

May 8th, 2010, 03:57 PM

Jeff, till tom. noon lang kutob and they will be closing it again..

diehardbisdak

May 8th, 2010, 05:12 PM

diehardbisdak

May 8th, 2010, 05:16 PM

SRP Tunnel on Youtube - video from my "cousin"

9oMUT5iytC4

Henz

May 8th, 2010, 05:32 PM

Nice.. Video of the Tunnel.......... Wa me kakuha kay busy kaayo me ug pangampanya..xenxa na mo!!!!

marxman

May 8th, 2010, 05:35 PM

SRP Tunnel on Youtube - video from my "cousin"

salamat bai!!! kaagi na ko sa tunnel bisan naa ko makati!!! hahaha!!! taas man diay na... tan.aw nko mura more than a kilometer na siya.

AmbutLang

May 8th, 2010, 06:04 PM

diehardbisdak

May 8th, 2010, 06:11 PM

^ daghan pa ang kuwang... vertical clearance sign, reflector sa gutter etc.

Danny19

May 8th, 2010, 08:46 PM

Wow great work. Is the SRP tunnel the only one in the whole Philippines??? Or maybe the longest?

MatudNilaBaby

May 8th, 2010, 08:53 PM

Wow great work. Is the SRP tunnel the only one in the whole Philippines??? Or maybe the longest?

the first in the federal state of cebu :lol::lol::lol:

pookhey

May 8th, 2010, 10:10 PM

wow...bilib....very nice

pookhey

May 8th, 2010, 10:18 PM

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LordCarnal

May 9th, 2010, 01:24 AM

LordCarnal

May 9th, 2010, 01:26 AM

Church in El Pardo, Cebu just a while ago...

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk242/cebuheritage/churches/pardo/pardo_church_small02.png (http://cebuheritage.com)

LordCarnal

May 9th, 2010, 01:42 AM

salamat bai!!! kaagi na ko sa tunnel bisan naa ko makati!!! hahaha!!! taas man diay na... tan.aw nko mura more than a kilometer na siya.

0.9 kilometers daw..

.:.

LordCarnal

May 9th, 2010, 01:44 AM

Wow great work. Is the SRP tunnel the only one in the whole Philippines??? Or maybe the longest?

There are many tunnels in the Philippines na. The first road tunnel is somewhere in north Luzon, I forgot the name basta it's just short and it passes through a hill. I saw a circa 1980's photo of it..

And then there are also tunnels in QC, Makati, etc.

:banana:

LordCarnal

May 9th, 2010, 01:46 AM

Masnindut kung ma tiled walls kay easier to clean. Kinahanglan mabutangan sign "NO LANES CHANGE" sa entrances sa tunnel area. The good thing ma bypass ang congested area sa city hall area. :banana: :)

Speed limit is 10 kilometers per hour, I don't know if it is minimum or maximum ...:lol::lol::lol: but I think it is just temporary..

...

concern

May 9th, 2010, 04:12 AM

Cebu South Coastal Road 3B-2 Tunnel
video taken today.

FmZ_0n285a4

Bhan Jojo Ngoi

May 9th, 2010, 04:39 AM

***deleted***

LordCarnal

May 9th, 2010, 04:56 AM

alegreha ui, at 1:10 naay ga tambay haha.. :banana:

Cebu South Coastal Road 3B-2 Tunnel
video taken today.

FmZ_0n285a4

marxman

May 9th, 2010, 05:09 AM

careful ta anang tunnels bai... knhnglan long term atong plano. kay basin magplano na ug subway in the future. nya dghan na kaayog tunnels.

dapat naay jud urban planning.

marxman

May 9th, 2010, 05:18 AM

Speed limit is 10 kilometers per hour, I don't know if it is minimum or maximum ...:lol::lol::lol: but I think it is just temporary..

...

wat will happen if m.sobra? naa bay speedometer dira? para m.dakpan ang m.sobra ug speed limit?

ang kabaho ug ebak ani atong mga officials kay magput up silag mga rules like. naay speed limit pero wala silay paagi para m.check if nilapas ka sa speed limit...

walay teeth ang rules. m.ingon dayon nga disciplina ra ang kuwang...

wala sila kibaw na ang tao inherently walay disciplina. kinahanglan nga ang tao m.train nga disciplinado.

and one thing para m.train ang tao is pag butang ug teeth sa mga rules/laws...

Wolfranz

May 9th, 2010, 05:27 AM

LordCarnal

May 9th, 2010, 05:49 AM

wat will happen if m.sobra? naa bay speedometer dira? para m.dakpan ang m.sobra ug speed limit?

ang kabaho ug ebak ani atong mga officials kay magput up silag mga rules like. naay speed limit pero wala silay paagi para m.check if nilapas ka sa speed limit...

walay teeth ang rules. m.ingon dayon nga disciplina ra ang kuwang...

wala sila kibaw na ang tao inherently walay disciplina. kinahanglan nga ang tao m.train nga disciplinado.

and one thing para m.train ang tao is pag butang ug teeth sa mga rules/laws...

Bitaw bai, 10 km per hour is too slow. It's like having a funeral procession...

But I bet that speed limit is just temporary.

Hehehe.

.:.

zidlakan

May 9th, 2010, 06:29 AM

DPWH set the 10 kph cap because the road lights of every 2 meters are not yet
entirely in place. and this was the consultant's recommendation which they
approved. i respect the consultant's opinion because i admit they know better
than me in these matters.

as far as measurement is concerned, then we are guilty as charged. there is
no way we can check whether a car exceeds the 10 kph limit. but come to
think of it, there are thousands of kilometers of national highways in the country
and all of them have speed limits. i have yet to see some speed sensors in this
country, the ones i've seen in japan and singapore. we'll try to suggest to DPWH
and to PNP to buy speed sensors all over the country. if they can't or
won't, maybe we should do away with speed limits because these don't have
teeth anyway.

actually i was somewhat against this temporary opening because of the
conditions required and i thought we night end up being criticized again, but
other from the city and DPWH thought it might be good for the people.

i guess i was right ...

zidlakan

May 9th, 2010, 06:43 AM

Passed by the tunnel a while ago. Very nice, looks like the tunnel connecting mainland Hong Kong with Hong Kong Island, :banana: :banana:

I hope for more tunnels to come since we can no longer widen or reconfigure the existing streets of Cebu:

1.) a tunnel connecting Mactan/Cordova with Cebu City;

2.) a tunnel connecting northern Mactan with Consolacion towards the planned international container terminal;

2.) a tunnel connecting Gen. Maxilom/D.Jakosalem with Gorordo/Asilo;

2.) a tunnel from M. Velez Street passing underneath Cebu Capitol and exiting to Escario or UP Lahug, and;

3.) another tunnel from Escario Street passing underneath NBI and exiting to V. Rama Avenue..

:banana:

no objections to any of these. but i maintain the principle that any invest-
ment in the future should be economically viable, meaning the EIRR shall have
to be higher than 15%, which is the NEDA hurdle rate anyway. there are
approved methodologies of translating travel time savings and vehicle opera-
ting costs savings into economic benefit streams, so considering that tunnels
are roughly about P1 Billion per kilometer, we do have some indicators which
of the above maybe feasible in so many years from now, considering low,
moderate, or high economic growth.

zidlakan

May 9th, 2010, 06:58 AM

Cebu South Coastal Road 3B-2 Tunnel
video taken today.

FmZ_0n285a4

a few notes/comments. see the ceiling lights? these are supposed to be 2 m.
apart. now i think its 10 m. apart. they have to complete this before the
tunnel would be permanently opened.

also note the overhead ventilators. these are environmentally automated -
when the air quality inside the tunnel goes below a certain level, these automa-
tically turn on. there is also a central control room located at plaza indepen-
dencia (ground level) near malacañang.

Henz

May 9th, 2010, 06:58 AM

salamat bai!!! kaagi na ko sa tunnel bisan naa ko makati!!! hahaha!!! taas man diay na... tan.aw nko mura more than a kilometer na siya.

the best......

Wow great work. Is the SRP tunnel the only one in the whole Philippines??? Or maybe the longest?

the longest and most modern tunnel in the country today. i think this is more than a kilometer.

marxman

May 9th, 2010, 07:28 AM

rustyboi

May 9th, 2010, 07:42 AM

zidlakan

May 9th, 2010, 07:47 AM

sa Fort Bonifacio Global City kay naa man daw 'kuno' sila radar na speedometer. dont know if its true though. but i think naa. kay ang mga driver sa taxi nga musulod sa FBGC kay dili jud magtuga2x og break sa rules.

if imu sila ingnun na try og break sa rules. sila na mismo m.ingon na dili pwde kay madakpan sila.

mao na ang disciplina.

thanks for the info. will talk to DPWH and PNP. they have to provide these all
over the country cause it would be unfair again if selective ra ang butangan.

there are radar speed sensors or optical speed sensors. there is also a GPS-
based speed sensor, but this is way beyond our capability to purchase. we
can only propose, i really don't know if they will buy even if we suggest it. if
we consider the cost of putting up speed sensors all over the country, it
might involved billions of pesos and i don't know if the national government's
priorities will allow it ...

Radar-powered Traffic Speed Detection - FBGC, Taguig City

http://www.yugatech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/taguig-speed-limit.jpg
The LED signages will show the current speeds of approaching vehicles. If there are multiple cars coming in at the same time, it tracks the one with the fastest speed. The LEDs will turn red if you crossed the speed limit. If you’re in luck, a traffic enforcer will come out of hiding and flag you down. If not, he’ll radio your car plates to the others on the next traffic stop. The damage — Php1,000 for violating the speed limit.

source: yugatech

query lang, excuse my ignorance ... whose jurisdiction is traffic management
in FBGC? if it's government, then this is another case and proof of bias of
government - why only FBGC is provided with such technology. why not
samar or iloilo or cotabato?

wait ... isn't FBGC under MMDA?

wildfrangipani

May 9th, 2010, 09:59 AM

no objections to any of these. but i maintain the principle that any invest-
ment in the future should be economically viable, meaning the EIRR shall have
to be higher than 15%, which is the NEDA hurdle rate anyway. there are
approved methodologies of translating travel time savings and vehicle opera-
ting costs savings into economic benefit streams, so considering that tunnels
are roughly about P1 Billion per kilometer, we do have some indicators which
of the above maybe feasible in so many years from now, considering low,
moderate, or high economic growth.

Who envisioned the present tunnel and the srp diay? I also have read that tommy has no interest on the plaza's rehab some time ago. Bitaw oi, di mana makaon sa mga tao ang plaza so better leave it to interested or concerned parties or DOT. And they should consider pavers rather than grass while the landscaped area fenced like that of plaza sugbu ot the cathedral grounds.

Back to the tunnel, I guess it isnt completely done yet. Not painted or tiled (walls), No ventilations and artworks or mosaics. Is it monitored by radar and cctv cams?

I guess tunnels would be better in lieu of flyovers. And no more pedestrian bridges please. people dont use them anyway and too tacky with all those political slogan and names like ipadayon ang churvaness etc.

Wolfranz

May 9th, 2010, 11:48 AM

Cebu should prioritize parks and greens if she really wants to be the most livable city in Asia by 2015. That Mayor Tom has no concerns on the Plaza is like a nail on the coffin of this dream. How much time will people take before realizing the importance of parks to cities?

I hope the current delays in the funding of the plaza rehabilitation will turn out as blessings, coz I really hate the new design they proposed. Too modern and radical that it seems to have stamped out all historical value of the place.

Anyway, going back to the tunnel, how will the tunnel be guarded from bystanders and bad elements who might be thinking of using the tunnel as their lair? I'll hate to see some adhesives-sniffing low-lives in the future.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

May 9th, 2010, 12:00 PM

^^ right! and don't forget, VANDALISM! :bash::bash:

SleMarKen

May 9th, 2010, 12:10 PM

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/230/cebu1.jpg

World Class projects such as this tunnel + our being 3rd world city = questions, doubts... of who ever can survive, to function as being a world class facility over our being a third world city or will make the facility looks like a mess after a few months due to lack of maintenance and funding... ???

masabtan ba akong punto?hehehe

marxman

May 9th, 2010, 12:30 PM

marxman

May 9th, 2010, 12:35 PM

Radar-powered Traffic Speed Detection - FBGC, Taguig City

http://www.yugatech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/taguig-speed-limit.jpg
The LED signages will show the current speeds of approaching vehicles. If there are multiple cars coming in at the same time, it tracks the one with the fastest speed. The LEDs will turn red if you crossed the speed limit. If you’re in luck, a traffic enforcer will come out of hiding and flag you down. If not, he’ll radio your car plates to the others on the next traffic stop. The damage — Php1,000 for violating the speed limit.

source: yugatech

wala pko kita ana. tagsa rasd nuon ko m.adto FBGC.

strikto jud sa FBGC. kay bisan kadlawn magduha2x jud ug break sa rules ang mga taxi. manago daw na mga enforcer... hehe! mura sd style sa mga CITOM. hehe!

how about hand held na speedometer?

wildfrangipani

May 9th, 2010, 12:43 PM

BULLDOG

May 9th, 2010, 12:50 PM

Zuburbia

May 9th, 2010, 01:21 PM

Citta de Mare - pics from my "cousin"

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4772/08052010388.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6128/08052010386.jpg

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/753/08052010387.jpg

hala kaluod sa site development plan oi...murag uniform subdivision...no sense of dynamism! so boring design! :ohno::ohno::ohno: i hope mausab pa

Zuburbia

May 9th, 2010, 01:22 PM

sayang dako baya nga portion sa SRP ilahang idevelop, nya ingon ana ra....i hope mausab jud!

Zuburbia

May 9th, 2010, 01:30 PM

I hope they will leave this as an open space, make it a public park! weeeee so nice!:banana:

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy137/driftwud/cebu1ytyt.jpg

Zuburbia

May 9th, 2010, 01:35 PM

SAY NO TO DRUGS! SAY YES TO A BEAUTIFUL AND BETTER CITY ENVIRONMENT! VOTE FOR GEORGIA OSMENA! :banana: :banana: :banana:

marxman

May 9th, 2010, 02:11 PM

dili kaayo ko gnhn sa plano sa filinvest... im envisioning SRP murag Fort Bonifacio Global City... i wont mind copying FBGC... hehhe!! its nice!!!

sakto uniform ra kaayo... nya unsa man na katas.a? dili kaha kalas rna ug space? tan.aw nko mubo rmn na sila... murag dili kaabot ug 10 storey...

sa urban planning sa srp. unsa ganina na part?

is that even accessible to outsiders?

wildfrangipani

May 9th, 2010, 02:25 PM

hala kaluod sa site development plan oi...murag uniform subdivision...no sense of dynamism! so boring design! :ohno::ohno::ohno: i hope mausab pa

murag resettlement site.. sorry.

LordCarnal

May 9th, 2010, 02:41 PM

SleMarKen

May 9th, 2010, 02:44 PM

Hakot-hakot sa SRP Launching

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/siomaisatisa/Cebu%20City/SRPHakot06.jpg

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/siomaisatisa/Cebu%20City/SRPHakot05.jpg

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/siomaisatisa/Cebu%20City/SRPHakot04.jpg

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/siomaisatisa/Cebu%20City/SRPHakot03.jpg

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/siomaisatisa/Cebu%20City/SRPHakot02.jpg

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/siomaisatisa/Cebu%20City/SRPHakot01.jpg

kenken94

May 9th, 2010, 02:50 PM

Sleepwalker

May 9th, 2010, 03:40 PM

Og sa akong tan-aw, aduna gud gamayng pamolitika nahitabo aning SRP opening ba....Hmmm, I guess, it's high time for Mayor Tom to retire from politics...Medyo naa na siya tendency nga mahimong traditional politician... :ohno:

Sleepwalker

May 9th, 2010, 03:45 PM

I hope they will leave this as an open space, make it a public park! weeeee so nice!:banana:

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy137/driftwud/cebu1ytyt.jpg

Don't worry bai...City government will leave that open space for the squatters to invade it later... :)

I don't know what happen sa request sa SM nga palimpyohan ang sorroundings sa SM...Nadayon ba gud kaha to.

Ug katong pag-demolish pud sa squatters sa Mahiga creek ba to, nga gi-hold ang demolition until March for humanitarian reason daw, ingon ni Tomas... :)

zidlakan

May 9th, 2010, 03:53 PM

my comment to your comments, he he he ...

well, it's designed to attract a specific market niche, and if you don't like it,
you probably isn't the market or part of the market ... :) it may look like a
boring subdivision (to you and to us) but it's designed as a high-end (as in
very high-end) residences ... i've met and talked to the american architects,
quite reputable in their field, i don't think they made a mistake. if its activi-
ty you want, please wait for the details of Pond F (the seaside portion of the
FilInvest property. what you see more in that rendering is the residential (JV)
portion which actually is in accordance with the original concept plan.

by the way, just note ... middle left portion - there's actually a central park
in front of what might be a church or a stadium (i forgot). also note at the
top portion (near Pond C) is the proposed BRT alignment which will pass through
SM and exit to the mambaling access road. the Pond F details seem to be very
exciting from the talks i've heard but they're still finalizing. anyway, abangan.
but the way i look at it, it might achieve what mayor osmeña's ultimate game
plan for the SRP, and for cebu for that matter. i'd really like to share it here
but it might elicit criticism from non-cebu residents, and most especially from
people of the capital city. ako na lang i tagsa-tagsa ug message nya sa
interesado with the promise that you won't publich it ...

zidlakan

May 9th, 2010, 03:59 PM

I hope they will leave this as an open space, make it a public park! weeeee so nice!:banana:

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy137/driftwud/cebu1ytyt.jpg

i'm still trying to negotiate some arrangements for that. technically, that
belongs to the cebu port authority, by a technicality which, in my opinion, might
be amended, depending on the parties concerned. what i mean is that if we
have a sympathetic new president, ... who can influence who the members of
the CPA board will be, then we can ask that that area be turned over to DOT
or PPA or the city government to be made into a park. or, even under the
current regime, CPA can make that into a park (it already was designed as one,
the seaside part) if they are into it. i know it doesn't have a title yet, but in
principle, it belongs to CPA, by unusual circumstances in the last 10 years ...

Ejames

May 9th, 2010, 04:00 PM

lapit na ba talaga end of the World? tsk3

A 7.2-magnitude quake hits the Indonesian province of Aceh on Sunday triggering a local tsunami alert.

Jeffreyw

May 9th, 2010, 04:11 PM

Radar-powered Traffic Speed Detection - FBGC, Taguig City

http://www.yugatech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/taguig-speed-limit.jpg
source: yugatech

Same principle ni sa Tennis ug Baseball na ibutang daplin sa field or court to determine the speed of the ball.

marxman

May 9th, 2010, 04:12 PM

i'm still trying to negotiate some arrangements for that. technically, that
belongs to the cebu port authority, by a technicality which, in my opinion, might
be amended, depending on the parties concerned. what i mean is that if we
have a sympathetic new president, ... who can influence who the members of
the CPA board will be, then we can ask that that area be turned over to DOT
or PPA or the city government to be made into a park. or, even under the
current regime, CPA can make that into a park (it already was designed as one,
the seaside part) if they are into it. i know it doesn't have a title yet, but in
principle, it belongs to CPA, by unusual circumstances in the last 10 years ...

sir, does this mean na it still needs the authority/approval or the national government?

dapat federalism na jud ta. issues like this should be solved by cebuanos. not by people who are hundred of miles away from cebu.

Henz

May 9th, 2010, 04:21 PM

If that's FLI's plan for SRP, then for me it's just simply disappointing not to mention they're in a Prime lot and look at it......... I'm already imagining Manhattan in New York and this is what I get. I'll just hope SM isn't so dumb enough.

Actually mao na ilang plan sa 40 hectare na joint venture.. Pero naa sad na sila lain plan for the 20 hectare of FLI property located at the front.

Yeah i agree with you all guys.. bati jud ang plan sa FLI... kun mao na.. mora jud resettlement area sa mga squatters!

Henz

May 9th, 2010, 04:24 PM

Sleepwalker

May 9th, 2010, 04:25 PM

^^Nangapawong ang mga expectations sa mga tawo diri regarding FLI...Hahahaha...Maayo pang Calyx ug Padget kay surprised pa ang mga tawo...Maayo unta og nindot unya ang SM-SRP... :)

brodix

May 9th, 2010, 05:16 PM

unsa ni, launching or campaign? which is which?

Hakot-hakot sa SRP Launching

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/siomaisatisa/Cebu%20City/SRPHakot06.jpg

brodix

May 9th, 2010, 05:17 PM

bitaw, murag nothing special. gasayang sayang sa yuta. ok ra ug dili idayon heheheh joke.

mura ra siya ug socialized housing.

^^Nangapawong ang mga expectations sa mga tawo diri regarding FLI...Hahahaha...Maayo pang Calyx ug Padget kay surprised pa ang mga tawo...Maayo unta og nindot unya ang SM-SRP... :)

slimer

May 9th, 2010, 05:35 PM

i was at SRP yesterday. although naay political rally pero ok ra man kaayo. wa may pinugsanay didto. i even see lot of Gibo supporters nga misuroy. klaro kay sa wristband ug sa mga stickers sa ilang cars hehehe... iyahay ra ang mga taw ug enjoy ug asa sila.

Jarenz

May 9th, 2010, 06:19 PM

unsa ni, launching or campaign? which is which?

Both :ohno:

weewit

May 9th, 2010, 06:52 PM

yeah me too.. was part of the run, seemed everyone enjoyed the whole launching/rally. i see lots of people of all walks of life. be it with cars, or those who dont have. unfortunately, one might say hakot, but the other side of the coin, theres no public transport transversing to SRP. So if theres no "hakot" only those with cars can go? well, i think our mayor is just following our city's businessmen. kung naay sale sa Ayala, they will give free rides from IT or SM or even parkmall.

dont get me wrong, Im not from Cebu city so i dont favor any politician. im just saying, if you want people of all walks of life to emerge in one place, have a good time, and most of all listen to you, well he made a heck of a job! :)

BTW, sir Zid! pls count me in too sir... ill zip and :lock: my mouth :lol:

Jarenz

May 9th, 2010, 07:02 PM

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/djxd2/view/ayalaterraces.jpg

flesh_is_weak

May 9th, 2010, 07:26 PM

hala kaluod sa site development plan oi...murag uniform subdivision...no sense of dynamism! so boring design! :ohno::ohno::ohno: i hope mausab pa

mao gyud, puslan man na ingon ana ilang concept, patas-an na lang pud unta nila ang buildings...commie blocks :lol:

AmbutLang

May 9th, 2010, 09:49 PM

I hope they will leave this as an open space, make it a public park! weeeee so nice!:banana:

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy137/driftwud/cebu1ytyt.jpg

Ang tunnel dri sa NYC naay police outpost on one end and a police station on the other end dedicated to the tunnel security. This is true to all 4 car/truck tunnels leading to NYC. During rush hours, the tunnels have manned police outposts/cubicles at intervals on both directions with radar check and light indicator on the ceiling, notifying the drivers of the traffic flow ahead.

Maayo unta mao sad nin-ani pud sa tunnel sa Plaza Independentia.

AmbutLang

May 9th, 2010, 10:09 PM

^^

I don't think that's the final rendering. Perhaps it's just a concept or what para naay ma print sa tarpaulin..

Anyway, the rendering reminds me of this,

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/91103501_3bac46b56f.jpg

Btw, it's good that they're trying to relocate City Hall. Well yes, city hall needs to be relocated to a much bigger place..

This type of housing is like for low income or no income housing sa NYC. :nuts: :ohno: They have a police precints almost dedicated to the housing complexes. The main problems are drugs and prosti. . . :bash: :ohno:

FLIs new brand - "One Oasis". One Oasis Mabolo in Cebu will be similar to FLI's One Oasis projects in Manila and Davao.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Davao%20UC/original.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Davao%20UC/oasis4.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Davao%20UC/oasis3.jpg

I hope FLI will have a better approach/ideas than the just plain housing like Oasis. They should have a stringent security.

^^Nangapawong ang mga expectations sa mga tawo diri regarding FLI...Hahahaha...Maayo pang Calyx ug Padget kay surprised pa ang mga tawo...Maayo unta og nindot unya ang SM-SRP... :)

Mao lagi, murag nanglain akong gana, kung suga pa, kapundiron na. :nuts: :ohno:

MatudNilaBaby

May 10th, 2010, 12:30 AM

Citta de Mare - pics from my "cousin"

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4772/08052010388.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6128/08052010386.jpg

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/753/08052010387.jpg

maigo ni siyang fli design nga socialize housing para sa mga datu nga di chikots. kitang pobre diha nalang sa squatters mo himo sa atong bayong2x :lol::lol::lol:

it may create jobs para sa mga uniformed domestic helpers but the job creation is very limited kay residential man diay ilang tuyo sa majority sa ilang yuta. its quite shocking to know that it was their intention in partnering with the city.

zidlakan

May 10th, 2010, 12:47 AM

count me in sir......... promise i will not publish it.. hehehhe

give me some time ha, kay inatay ko karun 3 days na busy kaayo ako wife sa
elections preparation ako ray gabantay kang samuel :lol: maybe this afternoon
i'll send messages ...

diehardbisdak

May 10th, 2010, 01:11 AM

...a clearer video of the SRP Tunnel

lAdIB5XuGBI

SleMarKen

May 10th, 2010, 02:52 AM

MatudNilaBaby

May 10th, 2010, 02:59 AM

...a clearer video of the SRP Tunnel

lAdIB5XuGBI

i drive by a shorter tunnel every day here in long beach but its much wider due to an extra lane for emergency breakdown. speed limit is 40mph cuz its wider two lane tunnel in each direction. puede ra siguro na kay mas hinay man ang flow sa traffic but isnt that the purpose of the tunnel to increase the flow of traffic in some congested streets?

diehardbisdak

May 10th, 2010, 03:23 AM

:ohno: Tommy is sowing hatred...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4591482537_184a049a2c_o.jpg
flickr pic by @bo0ordz

diehardbisdak

May 10th, 2010, 03:37 AM

SRP Grand Launching cum "Miting di Avance" of BOPK

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4591339546_5879456dbe_o.jpg
flickr pic by @predogo

diehardbisdak

May 10th, 2010, 03:38 AM

flickr pic by @SofabRiza

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4591448626_0aa55b17b0_b.jpg

flesh_is_weak

May 10th, 2010, 03:40 AM

maigo ni siyang fli design nga socialize housing para sa mga datu nga di chikots. kitang pobre diha nalang sa squatters mo himo sa atong bayong2x :lol::lol::lol:

it may create jobs para sa mga uniformed domestic helpers but the job creation is very limited kay residential man diay ilang tuyo sa majority sa ilang yuta. its quite shocking to know that it was their intention in partnering with the city.

mao pud, i was kind of hoping to see something like another CBD for Cebu...but let's see where this goes, it's to early to pass judgment~~

pero if i remember it right, di ba murag naa man toy ingon na di gusto si mayor ug residential nga projects para sa SRP?

pero anyway, since nahalin na man ang SRP, sunod po unta nga proyekto sa bag-ong mayor ang pagpanindot ug marketing pud sa atong karaang downtown, para nako, naa diha ang tinuod nga kalag sa dakbayan sa Sugbo

LordCarnal

May 10th, 2010, 03:49 AM

Sayang bitaw na majority sa space sa FLI is residential. Would a perimeter fence surround it?

It would have been better if the residential area was confined to a very small space that would be occupied by ultra-highrise buildings (to maximize space). And then a big portion for a central park, highrise buildings for banks, BPOs, call centers, corporate headquarters, etc.

Anyway, I hope that the SRP will house the biggest IT Park & Cybercity in the Philippines, one that will house all call centers and BPOs in the Philippines under one location..

Google, please move out of China and transfer to Cebu. There's no censorship here. :banana:

:banana:

LordCarnal

May 10th, 2010, 03:55 AM

They way I understand it, perhaps it's going to be like this:

1.) FLI will handle the residential and entertainment component of the SRP;

2.) SM will put up the mall, hotels, convention center, etc.

3.) AYALA will put up the CBD, IT Park, etc.

4.) remaining lots for UP Campus, new city hall, hospitals, etc.

heheheehe.... they should start reclaiming that unfinished portion of the SRP (the lagoon).. pwede pa na ibaligya sa MEGAWORLD or any Dubai or Hong Kong based developer..

...

MatudNilaBaby

May 10th, 2010, 03:57 AM

mao pud, i was kind of hoping to see something like another CBD for Cebu...but let's see where this goes, it's to early to pass judgment~~

pero if i remember it right, di ba murag naa man toy ingon na di gusto si mayor ug residential nga projects para sa SRP?

pero anyway, since nahalin na man ang SRP, sunod po unta nga proyekto sa bag-ong mayor ang pagpanindot ug marketing pud sa atong karaang downtown, para nako, naa diha ang tinuod nga kalag sa dakbayan sa Sugbo

let colon be colon but more organized bisan ug daghan ug tawo like time square. expected naman na nga heavy traffic gyud so other vehicles will have to avoid passing through it. they just have to get rid colon of pick pockets, beggars and street children. unya ilang i claro nang mga sidewalks nga walay vendors. kinahanglan dakup gyud ug duna sab kabotangan ang city ani nila nga mga violators ug street children.

LordCarnal

May 10th, 2010, 04:06 AM

Bhan Jojo Ngoi

May 10th, 2010, 04:47 AM

amoa tawn #90 pa ang gitawag nya #591 ako a priority number.. makabotar pa kaha ko within this week? :bash:

bakasaurus

May 10th, 2010, 04:58 AM

How's the elections mga bai?

@Zidlakan: Sir Paul please do send me through PM too. Thanks!

flesh_is_weak

May 10th, 2010, 05:53 AM

let colon be colon but more organized bisan ug daghan ug tawo like time square. expected naman na nga heavy traffic gyud so other vehicles will have to avoid passing through it. they just have to get rid colon of pick pockets, beggars and street children. unya ilang i claro nang mga sidewalks nga walay vendors. kinahanglan dakup gyud ug duna sab kabotangan ang city ani nila nga mga violators ug street children.

my thoughts exactly

plus, more public spaces and greenery (daghan man pud ug unoccupied buildings downtown na pwede i-demolish to give way to small parks or squares)

cebuboi

May 10th, 2010, 07:09 AM

^^if i am to be ask? i would agree that the government will do the redevelopment of plaza independencia and all other parks at its best where everything will be as admirable as per our expectations...all the necessary facilities would be put up to where we can really enjoy and unwind then impose that fee to all users irregardless of our status in the society...means rich and poor should pay...for in this time there's no such thing as free...everything has it's price to pay...(comfort=expenses=money=simple analogy):bash::bash::bash:

bakasaurus

May 10th, 2010, 07:26 AM

Cebu falls to 2nd place in top tourist destinations

By Rinnah B. Flores

With only a three percent growth in its tourist arrivals, Cebu dropped to second place in the the top tourist destinations in the country as of the first quarter of the year, the Department of Tourism’s (DOT) quarterly report said.

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Cebu came in second after Manila.

Cebu had 435,087 tourists while Manila has 437,170.

In 2009, Cebu was the top destination while Manila was third.

During the first quarter of the year, Manila’s number of tourists increased by 37.10 percent. The DOT credited the growth to more international and local meetings, congresses and conventions, as well as special events organized by major companies and organizations in the capital.

New spots

The opening of new spots in Manila like the Manila Oceanarium, the Newport Entertainment City and the visits of more cruise ships at Manila South Harbor also attracted more tourists.

In Cebu, top markets included Korea, with 28 percent; Japan, 23 percent; USA, with 10 percent; and China, 6 percent. Due to aggressive promotions by the DOT during the Chinese New Year in February, more than 1,950 Chinese visitors arrived in Cebu through 15 charter flights from Shanghai and Nanjing in China.

But the department is still positive on the growth potential for Cebu with more hotels and resorts opening up in the province.

Packages

DOT said Cebu will see growth in tourist arrivals as more flights are added and entrepreneurs offer more organized island tours and packages.

Innovative young businessmen are also improving existing tour packages like enhancing heritage tours to all allow tourists to experience the cultural and historical aspect of the city, the department said.

Other tourist destinations in the country also increased their tourist arrivals for the first three months. Camarines Sur became the third most frequented destination with 348,139 tourists, DOT said. American tourists still make up the biggest bulk of the market in Camarines Sur, with a 17.96 percent share.

Promotion

The number of tourists going to Boracay Island, meanwhile, grew 20 percent to 190,094. Koreans still remain the major tourists in the island, with a 28 percent share of the market.

Puerto Princesa City, meanwhile, saw a 23 percent increase in foreign tourist arrivals as the DOT and its local government unit promoted the Puerto Princesa Underground River. The launch of the Puerto Princesa City and Busuanga flight also allowed more tourists between the destinations to visit more attractions in Palawan.

Bohol increased its tourist arrivals by 4.20 percent, with the Chinese accounting for 19 percent of the market.

Published in the Sun.Star Cebu newspaper on May 10, 2010.

We fell 2nd place in the 1st quarter? That's a bit disheartening to hear when 1st quarter is our most festive in Cebu. But good thing it's only a difference of around 2,000 arrivals. I hope we can maintain the lead after the whole year figures are in. But we shouldn't rest on our laurels as the cliche goes.

lionel messi

May 10th, 2010, 08:11 AM

MatudNilaBaby

May 10th, 2010, 08:43 AM

We fell 2nd place in the 1st quarter? That's a bit disheartening to hear when 1st quarter is our most festive in Cebu. But good thing it's only a difference of around 2,000 arrivals. I hope we can maintain the lead after the whole year figures are in. But we shouldn't rest on our laurels as the cliche goes.

if mcia is open for the us, canada and the eu directly mas mo increase siguro ang tourists arrivals sa cebu. kaso if they land in naia doon na sila maglakwatsa kay sa mo connecting flight pa sila. mactan cebu must be open to the world and not just an alternate international airport.

if the philippines is classified as a category 2 thats because there is only one airport evaluated for american air transportation standards. what about the rest of the country which might be able to manage an airport better than the capital region.

Zuburbia

May 10th, 2010, 10:33 AM

sir, does this mean na it still needs the authority/approval or the national government?

dapat federalism na jud ta. issues like this should be solved by cebuanos. not by people who are hundred of miles away from cebu.

mao jud bai! kita maoy mas nahibaw unsay angay sa ato-a dili tong mga tagalog!

Zuburbia

May 10th, 2010, 10:40 AM

Hakot-hakot sa SRP Launching

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/siomaisatisa/Cebu%20City/SRPHakot06.jpg

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/siomaisatisa/Cebu%20City/SRPHakot04.jpg

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/siomaisatisa/Cebu%20City/SRPHakot03.jpg

HAHAHAHA! Hybrid festival! pa-disguise nga festival para makagamit sa fund sa syudad! major campaign na diay tos BOPK...waaaa baga-a nag nawong oi! super trapo naman ning nangulo sa atong syudad! kita jud ko ani pag-adto nako sa SRP..Disappointing kaayo! :ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

slimer

May 10th, 2010, 10:46 AM

^^i totally disagree! that's all!

Zuburbia

May 10th, 2010, 10:48 AM

elections updates here in our barangay:

daghan kaau tao, naay priority number. as of 9:00AM a while ago, ika number 30 pa ang gi serve and I'm number 257.

ni-uli sa ko, I'm going back to the precint after lunch nalang.

ako, pag-abot nako mga 10:30 sa Normal university precinct ika 600 ko nya ang giserve kay 230...gasuroy suroy lang sa ko, sight seeing and tan-awx og mga cuties, hahaha! than naniudto, pagbalik nako taod2x ako nang turn...in general nindot ra ang flow sa election, wala ray hasol ang akong naexperience ganiha! cool ra kayo! yeahaaaaa!

LordCarnal

May 10th, 2010, 11:26 AM

timz06

May 10th, 2010, 11:40 AM

took 4 hours to vote, usab usab pa jud ang systema... hahayz.... the system is still the same bisag hi tech nata... :bash:

anyway, share ko what I got at Guadalupe Elem. School

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u9/timz06/halalan/051020102385.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u9/timz06/halalan/051020102387.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u9/timz06/halalan/051020102389.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u9/timz06/halalan/051020102402.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u9/timz06/halalan/051020102391.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u9/timz06/halalan/051020102415.jpg

:banana::banana::banana:

habagatcentral1

May 10th, 2010, 11:50 AM

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u9/timz06/halalan/051020102387.jpg

:rofl: :lol: Sorry, this photo took my attention. Kay ingon bitaw, "fall in line!"

LordCarnal

May 10th, 2010, 11:51 AM

Looks like today's automated elections is a dry run for the next automated elections come 2013, hehehe..

.:.

timz06

May 10th, 2010, 11:55 AM

:rofl: :lol: Sorry, this photo took my attention. Kay ingon bitaw, "fall in line!"

sa gawas ni siya sa school, nag mug-ot si manang ni Loren. hahaha... :lol:

LordCarnal

May 10th, 2010, 11:59 AM

Despite the hassle, I'm still happy to be a part of history...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/vote.jpg

habagatcentral1

May 10th, 2010, 12:00 PM

Despite the hassle, I'm still happy to be a part of history...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/vote.jpg
^^ Are those hostuarios at the BG?

LordCarnal

May 10th, 2010, 12:06 PM

^^

OT:

Reliquaries bern. I did not bring my cam at the polling place.

Thrilling na who will be the next president. Will the results be known by midnight?

I voted for Gibo by the way.

.:.

Sinjin P.

May 10th, 2010, 12:13 PM

ELECTION OBSERVATIONS:

I went to the polling place at 8AM. Was given a priority number. I was number 257. Currently being served was number 30. An hour after it was still number 30 so I went home.

I went back to the polling place at 12 Noon. Number being served was already 100 so I waited.

It took 5 hours for my number to be called. Meaning, in the five hours that I waited, the clustered precinct served only 157 voters!

My observations:

1.) Various precincts were clustered together to form one big precinct which was served by only one PCOS machine. This simply won't work.

2.) In that clustered precinct where I voted, there are 990 who are expected to vote. When I left a few minutes ago at 5PM plus, only around 160 plus were served. One hour more to go before the voting stops and they have still not reached 51% of the voters expected to come.

3.) The clustered precinct served an average of only 30 voters per hour! That's too slow. Some even commented that they might be able to vote next week yet!

4.) There were some voters who took 30 minutes to vote (from shading the ballot, to smelling the paper, to touching it for the first time, gazing and looking at it as if it was the first time they saw paper, laughing and giggling with their companions, etc..etc..)

Here's mine from Cluster 21, Bankal, Lapu-Lapu City:

I went to the polling place at 9AM. I knew my precinct number but everyone I asked for directions told me to get my cluster number. It should have been in the voters' list, but then, for an unexplained reason, the voters' list was incomplete! Some of my relatives who voted ahead of me told me to go to a tent by "poll watchers" of our incumbent mayor, ask for a sample ballot (for the mayor's party slate) then they'd write all my needed info on it: voter's number, cluster number. The next instruction made my jaw drop: "Inig human nimo ug butar, papirmahi sa BEI ang imong sample ballot, dayon adto sa pikas tent, ipakita imong indelible ink ug ihatag ang sample ballot para makadawat ka ug pahalipay!" (Rough translation: After you vote, let the BEI sign your sample ballot then go to the other tent, show your finger with indelible ink and give the sample ballot to receive a "token")

.So I lined up to my clustered precinct. It was so hot!

.More than a hundred were ahead in the line.

.There were no priority numbers!

.When the next batch of voters were called, there would be mini-stampedes!

.After two hours, our line has moved by only a meter! I left mom and dad in the line, I went home, and freshened up since it was as if I was wet by rain!

.When I was back a few minutes after, the line has barely moved. I then discovered that a lot of voters cutting in line (line/queue jumping, butting, barging). How rude!

.The experience was better since I was my dad and mom. So we took turns in taking a break from the stand-a-thon! I can't imagine how the experience would have been if I went there on my own.

.It was past noon when the officers decided to give out priority numbers. But they only gave 100! So we'd have to stand and wait for when the priority numbers would reach us! They should have prepared priority numbers for all the 1,000 registered voters assigned to the clustered precinct so that we could do what we need to do (restroom, lunch, etc.) when we need to!

.As I was sitting on the holding area before I could vote, I saw how those in line were very outrageous and impatient, to think that it was already cloudy so it wasn't hot anymore, unlike when we were still lining up in the morning where the sun was shining, unobstructed! There are really some people who are self-centered and who lack manners.

.By 4pm, I was able to vote without a hitch, except that my hands were shaking as I shaded the ballot (I skipped lunch just so I could vote. I love my country! I am hopeful of the outcome of this Elections!)! That's probably because of hunger and fatigue! Standing under the heat of the sun for seven hours is not funny.

.As I inserted my ballot, I made a sigh of relief when the PCOS machine flashed "Congratulations" on my first try! I then saw that I was voter #468. That means, 432 voters have not yet cast their votes and it was only 3 more hours 'til the precincts would close!

.All-in-all, I consumed two liters of C2, 1 liter of water and 1 cube of hopia while standing up waiting for my turn to vote!

.After the "Calvary-like experience", I am so happy to be part of history!

How was your experience? :D

LordCarnal

May 10th, 2010, 12:18 PM

The next instruction made my jaw drop: "Inig human nimo ug butar, papirmahi sa BEI ang imong sample ballot, dayon adto sa pikas tent, ipakita imong indelible ink ug ang sample ballot para makadawat ka ug pahalipay!"

Unsaon, hehehehe..

zidlakan

May 10th, 2010, 12:21 PM

just another observation. on the positive side.

i went to the polling center around 8:30 with my father and mother. they voted
in less than 20 minutes, thanks to their age and the quick-mindedness of the
BEI's who simply allowed senior citizens to vote without lining up or getting a
priority numbers. c'mon ato na lang gud na'ng pasagdan na'ng senior citizens
nga mag-una-una ug di mo linya, gamay ra raba na sila unya maluoy pod tawon
mo maglisud na man saka akong amahan sa hagdan, he he he. if there's one
thing i admire about this elections, it's the respect for the senior citizens in
allowing them to vote without hassle or easing up the effort. of course, not
all polling precinct/BEIs have the same situation. what about in yours?

me? i could not even find where they give out the priority numbers!!! ha ha ha
talk about management. this is localized of course, and case to case - i see
some precincts with good management systems; others seem to be clueless
as to what they're doing he he.

i went home came back at 3 pm. oi ... he he, they did away with the priori-
ty numbers and had the people simply line up. seemed to be a better system
people were toeing the line and seem less frustrated. at least its moving.
and my good luck - i'm the only one in line for my precinct, he he he - our
BEIs must be good.

took me under 4 minutes to vote. i asked how many were rejected so far.
the BEI said 4 ballots. i looked at the count - i was 602nd voter. i asked
them how many were registered in this precinct - they said 834. i mentally
counted and told them - you'd be finished by 5:30 ... i hope ... unless there
will be voters who are thinking of voting at 6:00 or 6:59 PM. who knows?
there are natural pasaway from among us, he he he.

my point is - despite the initial hiccups, the PCOS are fast. and voting was
fast, well within the 8 to 10 minutes they estimated in their time and motion
study. its also dependent on BEI management. once the initial difficulties
were overcome, the system seems to hasten up. this morning, looking at
the crowd and the heat and the anger, i thought this can't finish on time.
but after voting at 3 pm, i think it can, by 7 pm (as extended).

next stop - i will really seriously, strongly, and wholeheartedly suggest, for
2013 - that they will allow online voting! if banks allow financial transactions
and credit card payments online, they must have trust in the system. ako,
i'm willing to take the chance. harun di na tawon ko molinya, he he he.

ashton

May 10th, 2010, 12:22 PM

Very good, bai. :)

Despite the hassle, I'm still happy to be a part of history...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/vote.jpg

Sinjin P.

May 10th, 2010, 12:24 PM

Unsaon, hehehehe..

Klaro kaayo nga planado na daan ug segurista sila before sila manghatag sa ilang mga "pahalipay".

Grabe, as the BEI described, "that's the most accurate imitation of the official ballot". Gigasto-an gyud!

Diba? Lapu-Lapu SSCers? Share your experience. I'm sure gubot pod sa inyo. Ambot unsa'y naa sa Lapu-Lapu

zidlakan

May 10th, 2010, 12:41 PM

Here's mine from Cluster 21, Bankal, Lapu-Lapu City:

... The next instruction made my jaw drop: "Inig human nimo ug butar, papirmahi sa BEI ang imong sample ballot, dayon adto sa pikas tent, ipakita imong indelible ink ug ihatag ang sample ballot para makadawat ka ug pahalipay!" (Rough translation: After you vote, let the BEI sign your sample ballot then go to the other tent, show your finger with indelible ink and give the sample ballot to receive a "token")

:DKlaro kaayo nga planado na daan ug segurista sila before sila manghatag sa ilang mga "pahalipay".

Grabe, as the BEI described, "that's the most accurate imitation of the official ballot". Gigasto-an gyud!

Diba? Lapu-Lapu SSCers? Share your experience. I'm sure gubot pod sa inyo. Ambot unsa'y naa sa Lapu-Lapu

well, this is where you stand at the crossroads and have to choose between
the narrow, straight, and bumpy road and the wide, snaking, and smooth road.

did they actually say that? did the BEI sign your sample ballot? i wouldn't
ask the third question on whether you got your pahalipay cause the previous
two questions will suffice. if the answer is true - then it is your duty to
report the same to the authorities and even sign an affidavit because clearly
this is an election offense. if you'd rather not, well, this will be repeated and
repeated in the elections to come ...

habagatcentral1

May 10th, 2010, 01:06 PM

To know the partial results from COMELEC itself, visit the website below:
http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/

bakasaurus

May 10th, 2010, 02:13 PM

duh. why would you be disheartened? as if you've invested anything substantial to cebu's tourism, except perhaps for your emotional pandering, which doesn't mean much really.

of course this latest news ought to motivate cebu authorities. but what i see here is healthy competition among the country's tourist destinations. this is what the country needs.

:lol: Dumot bai? What's with the very personal comment?
If you're asking, the answer is yes, I have vested interest in Cebu's tourism. Yes, I am deeply concerned about it.
But yes, to explain. I was posting it for information's sake; information which I deemed relevant to this thread and forum. Then the comments after are, of course, my own thoughts and reaction to the article. And I do agree with you and also see it as healthy competition between the destinations. It's just that I'm rooting for Cebu more than any place else. Hehe. It's like wanting football to become famous in our country but still rooting for your own team to win.

Thanks for the reaction anyway. It means much to me. It matters more to this forum than my emotional pandering.:)

Sinjin P.

May 10th, 2010, 02:28 PM

LAPULAPU OFFICIAL RESULTS

Clustered Precinct 92 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2226092.html)

Clustered Precinct 42 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2226042.html)

Clustered Precinct 35 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2226035.html)

I'll be updating this post as more precincts transmit their results

bakasaurus

May 10th, 2010, 02:37 PM

OMGEE! Initial OFFICIAL results for 1 clustered precinct in LapuLapu! http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2226092.html

Another one from LapuLapu http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2226042.html

And still another from LapuLapu http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2226035.html

Mao na ni ron...Congressman, Mayor ug konsehal...Opon will be run by one family corporation_?:ohno:

Sinjin P.

May 10th, 2010, 02:38 PM

Mao na ni ron...Congressman, Mayor ug konsehal...Opon will be run by one family corporation_?:ohno:

Wala nako nashock ana. Nashock ko ni ERAP... 2nd place or 1st place man. :lol:

Sinjin P.

May 10th, 2010, 02:44 PM

CEBU CITY OFFICIAL RESULTS

Clustered Precinct 1 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2217001.html)

Clustered Precinct 59 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2217059.html)

Clustered Precinct 60 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2217060.html)

Clustered Precinct 66 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2217066.html)

Clustered Precinct 87 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2217087.html)

Clustered Precinct 88 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2217088.html)

Clustered Precinct 89 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2217089.html)

Clustered Precinct 96 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2217096.html)

Clustered Precinct 533 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2217533.html)

Clustered Precinct 538 (http://electionresults.ibanangayon.ph/res_reg2217538.html)

I'll be updating this post as more precincts transmit their results