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mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 24th, 2010, 05:15 AM
ganahan sad ko kay naapil akong pics...hahaha :D

aw, abi nako ikaw nagmugna adto bro?! :lol::nuts:

btw, kaluoy sa Pilipinas! kanindot sa Cebu! :lol::nuts::lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 24th, 2010, 05:18 AM
The question, how long is the free fall? :nuts: :lol:

haha... upon thinking how long you'd gonna fall, mura nako'g nagkurog! :lol::nuts::puke:

SleMarKen
May 24th, 2010, 05:22 AM
^^nagpakita lang gyud unsa kahadlukan...:lol:

aw, abi nako ikaw nagmugna adto bro?! :lol::nuts:

btw, kaluoy sa Pilipinas! kanindot sa Cebu! :lol::nuts::lol:

nganong mag himo man ko ato, Cebu raman akong himoan...:nuts:

Gusto nako sila ikiha kay ila gigamit ako pics...:nuts::lol::D:nuts:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 24th, 2010, 05:28 AM
^^
aysus! bro, normal ra kaha na sa taw ang mahadlok! ang walay gikahadlukan, pasabot patay na! :lol::nuts::nuts:

hahaha...bitaw sah, wala sila nimo mananghid?! :nuts::nuts::lol:
waaaaa,,,, BAD LEMUR! BAD! :nuts::nuts:

AmbutLang
May 24th, 2010, 05:31 AM
The question, how long is the free fall? :nuts: :lol:

cannot be done because of dislocated bones. Wala matitira all jigsaw puzzlesang elongated/disjointed joints dahil sa height. :nuts: :ohno:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 24th, 2010, 05:36 AM
^^
in short, dili madrawing! :lol::nuts::D:lol:

flesh_is_weak
May 24th, 2010, 05:45 AM
angay unta sa Cebu, hatagan pud ug pagtagad ang manufacturing industry, tinuod nga advanced na ang usa ka society kung mo-move-on na siya gikan sa manufacturing, parehas sa Cebu karon na BPO na kasagaran ang nagpadagan sa economy, pero naa man pud tay surplus of manpower na dili magamit sa BPO tungod kay wa ni-qualify ilang skill-sets, apan mamaayo kaayo kung gamiton sa manufacturing ug uban pang industriya na nanginahanglan ug mano-mano na trabaho...aron pud mapuslan ang mga istambay sa pasil, carbon, ug uban pang lugar para sa paglambo sa atong Sugbo...

ug kanang tourism, aw, di ta angay mahakog ana...papiskan pud nato ang ubang lugar, sa tinuod lang, dili pud baya lami huna-huna-on na mga taga-gawas maoy makapahimulos sa kaanindot sa atong lugar...maayo man nang naa tay effort sa tourism, apan mas maayo na dili nato pasagdan ang ubang industriya na makapadani sa kwarta dinhi sa ato ug kanang maka-encourage ug entrepreneurship, para puhon, kadaghanan sa mga bisaya na pud ang mag-relax-relax ug maglulinghaway sa mga resort ug hotel sa Sugbo, ug sa ubang nasud na pud

habagatcentral1
May 24th, 2010, 05:55 AM
haha... upon thinking how long you'd gonna fall, mura nako'g nagkurog! :lol::nuts::puke:

^^
in short, dili madrawing! :lol::nuts::D:lol:

F=ma.... :D
Physics...haha!! :lol:

Pero wish nako as of the moment, naa na unta og cable car (kanag tourist cable car) gikan Lahug or Guadalupe padung sa Tops or sa Busay. Ok baya na. Para dili na lisud manguntrata sa taxi unya sige pa denied ang request para magsaka didto.

(All of a sudden, I miss riding that 3AM 04H jeepney ride from Nivel to Lahug, hehe!) :D

SleMarKen
May 24th, 2010, 06:10 AM
angay unta sa Cebu, hatagan pud ug pagtagad ang manufacturing industry, tinuod nga advanced na ang usa ka society kung mo-move-on na siya gikan sa manufacturing, parehas sa Cebu karon na BPO na kasagaran ang nagpadagan sa economy, pero naa man pud tay surplus of manpower na dili magamit sa BPO tungod kay wa ni-qualify ilang skill-sets, apan mamaayo kaayo kung gamiton sa manufacturing ug uban pang industriya na nanginahanglan ug mano-mano na trabaho...aron pud mapuslan ang mga istambay sa pasil, carbon, ug uban pang lugar para sa paglambo sa atong Sugbo...

ug kanang tourism, aw, di ta angay mahakog ana...papiskan pud nato ang ubang lugar, sa tinuod lang, dili pud baya lami huna-huna-on na mga taga-gawas maoy makapahimulos sa kaanindot sa atong lugar...maayo man nang naa tay effort sa tourism, apan mas maayo na dili nato pasagdan ang ubang industriya na makapadani sa kwarta dinhi sa ato ug kanang maka-encourage ug entrepreneurship, para puhon, kadaghanan sa mga bisaya na pud ang mag-relax-relax ug maglulinghaway sa mga resort ug hotel sa Sugbo, ug sa ubang nasud na pud


And one of it is tourism... dili nato pasagdan ang tourism kay usa na sa big 3 industries nga nagpadagan sa economiya a Sugbo...
Sa TURISMO, bisag wala kaskwela ang uban natong kaigsuonan from nursery to college, maka kwarta gihapon sila...
Tourism encourages entrepreneurship...

Jarenz
May 24th, 2010, 06:42 AM
^^ kanusa ni jarnz?

Last Saturday ga-start. . . on going pa karon sa IT Park

Procedure:


Anything you see in the event
Minimum of 15 entries & maximum to infinity
Size of the picture must not below 5 megapixel
All entries must save in the CD with contact info of the photographer
Deadline will be this coming Wednesday, sa mooon cafe i-submit



OT:

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1007/pagcortowermanila.jpg

great! good for manila! maayo unta'g naa sad inana diri sa cebu sa! for sure compitensyaan gyud na si king kay magbutang sad na sila'g bundjee jumping extreme! :lol::nuts::puke:

and if matukod na gyud ni siya, maklaro na intawon ang pilipinas sa mapa! :lol::nuts::cheers:

This is the real battle. . .

Originally Posted by: Saudi guy

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9283/diagramfa3.jpg

SleMarKen
May 24th, 2010, 07:27 AM
as wat I've experienced living in this "feeling rich nation"... I've learned to whish for the best for our Capital... From now on I will be proud of whatever Manila will achieve, and I will still represent Manila to the word... The thing is we should help coz it's not about Manila vs Cebu but it's about the Phlippines vs Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia...
Katong napa ko dira sa Cebu, mag yaw yaw ko nga sige lag Manila pero pag abot nako diri sa nasod nga proud kaayo sa ilang lahi, nga feelng first world na ilang yutang natawhan, naka realize ko nga Manila still represents our country same as they always represent LK here. Katong napa ko diha, nag huna huna kosa kalambuan sa Sugbo pero pag abot nako diri, nag hunahuna nako sa kalambuan sa tibuok Pilipinas kay I always say nga "I'm from the Philippines", not "I'm from Cebu"..
I represent the Philippines, I rpresent my Capital Manila here but I live in cebu:)

flesh_is_weak
May 24th, 2010, 07:39 AM
And one of it is tourism... dili nato pasagdan ang tourism kay usa na sa big 3 industries nga nagpadagan sa economiya a Sugbo...
Sa TURISMO, bisag wala kaskwela ang uban natong kaigsuonan from nursery to college, maka kwarta gihapon sila...
Tourism encourages entrepreneurship...

i agree, im not against tourism baya...pero di baya tanan pwede mo-trabaho sa tourism industry, so angay pud unta hatagan pagtagad ang ubang industry :)

re:feeling rich country: i love all our asian neighbors, pero ambut kung nganong allergic gyud kaayo ko ug certain na lahi...kanang naa sa tupad nato nga nasud ba, na talawan baya kaayo, hadlok mo-duol sa international court :lol:

SleMarKen
May 24th, 2010, 08:00 AM
^^yup, buotan man sila but sa nagkadugay kko diri, nangguwa naman ang mga lihok nga mo asta nga murag taas na gyud kaao sila compara sa uban... Like gi look down gyud nilag maayo ang Indonesia and I hate that attitude nga mo look down og bisag kinsa. Wa sila kahibaw nga Indonesia is a big nation, a giant that can easily overcome them. over ra sad kaayo sila ka proud sa ilang twin toothpick.

In 2050 predicted biggest economies in the world with its current perfomance,
apil bay ang Indonesia og vietnam nga gi gamay gamay lang nila karon...

Goldman Sachs' projection - 20 largest economies in 2050.
GDPs in trillions (US)
1. China $70.710
2. USA $38.514
3. India $37.688
4. Brazil $11.366
5. Mexico $9.340
6. Russia $8.580
7. Indonesia $7.010
8. Japan $6.677
9. UK $5.133
10. Germany $5.024
11. Nigeria $4.640
12. France $4.592
13. South Korea $4.083
14. Turkey $3.943
15. Vietnam $3.607
16. Canada $3.149
17. PHILIPPINES $3.010
18. Italy
19. Iran
20. Egypt10 hours ago clear



Just wanna make it clear nga I don't hate them, infact the other night hapit ko wa ka uli kay ang chinese nako nga kauban nahubog, wana ko niya nahatod balik sa apartment, nag laroy laroy ko sa penang island ala una sa kadlawn, 50 nalang sad akong wawart so di pwede mag taxi, samtang nag lingkod ko sa bench, nag sabot ang mga taxi drivers nga ihatod nalang ko bisag 50 ra ako wawart kay 600 man unta ila pangayo kay layo man, bridge pa lang daan 13 kilometers na, nagpasalamat sad ko sa ilang kabuotan...
I just hate sa attitude (feeling:D) sa ilang mga upper class citizens nga 4th class ra sa Pilipinas kung ibase sa panamit og itsura...lol


RE: tourism...
base sa akong nakit an diri sa nasod nga proud kaayo kay top tourist destination man daw sila, bisan kinsa man bay maka trabaho sa tourism. Naay tig guyod lang sa jetski padong sa baybayon, nakakwarta na siya... naay tig tugpo lang sa parachute, naka kwarta na siya... naa say tig sul ob rag life jacket sa turista, naka kwarta na siya...


BTW, Palau or Guam baya ang tupad nato...:lol:

flesh_is_weak
May 24th, 2010, 08:12 AM
^^sa pikas side ako pasabot :lol:

ato man pud ang guam :lol: under baya na sa una sa archdiocese of cebu :lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 24th, 2010, 08:30 AM
F=ma.... :D
Physics...haha!! :lol:

Pero wish nako as of the moment, naa na unta og cable car (kanag tourist cable car) gikan Lahug or Guadalupe padung sa Tops or sa Busay. Ok baya na. Para dili na lisud manguntrata sa taxi unya sige pa denied ang request para magsaka didto.

(All of a sudden, I miss riding that 3AM 04H jeepney ride from Nivel to Lahug, hehe!) :D

me too. cable car na lay kuwang sa cebu! ay naa pa, subways, expressways, underwater tunnels, metro trams, LRT/MRT, and obcorz, BRT! (kadaghan pa man diay!) :lol::lol::nuts:

[B][COLOR="Green"]
[B][COLOR="Green"]This is the real battle

kudjawa gud ana bai! puros man middle eastern cities! waaaaaaaaaaa, indeed its true that history repeats itself. because of man's desire to reach the top of the world, he builds the tower of babel and when God saw this, he destroyed it! praying it won't be destroyed by any means. :angel:

as wat I've experienced living in this "feeling rich nation"... I've learned to whish for the best for our Capital... From now on I will be proud of whatever Manila will achieve, and I will still represent Manila to the word... The thing is we should help coz it's not about Manila vs Cebu but it's about the Phlippines vs Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia...
Katong napa ko dira sa Cebu, mag yaw yaw ko nga sige lag Manila pero pag abot nako diri sa nasod nga proud kaayo sa ilang lahi, nga feelng first world na ilang yutang natawhan, naka realize ko nga Manila still represents our country same as they always represent LK here. Katong napa ko diha, nag huna huna kosa kalambuan sa Sugbo pero pag abot nako diri, nag hunahuna nako sa kalambuan sa tibuok Pilipinas kay I always say nga "I'm from the Philippines", not "I'm from Cebu"..
I represent the Philippines, I rpresent my Capital Manila here but I live in cebu:)

ka-drama sa akong amigo uy! :lol::D:nuts:
bitaw sakto gyud ka bro. manila represent gyud ta sa gawas sa nasud but MAGAWAS-AWAS GAYUD ANG AKONG GIBATING GARBO BASTA SUGBO NAY HISGUTAN BAI! way makalupig, way makatandog, way makapildi, TANAN IISA ANG TIIL! :lol::lol::nuts::hahaha::D:D:nuts:

Henz
May 24th, 2010, 08:59 AM
angay unta sa Cebu, hatagan pud ug pagtagad ang manufacturing industry, tinuod nga advanced na ang usa ka society kung mo-move-on na siya gikan sa manufacturing, parehas sa Cebu karon na BPO na kasagaran ang nagpadagan sa economy, pero naa man pud tay surplus of manpower na dili magamit sa BPO tungod kay wa ni-qualify ilang skill-sets, apan mamaayo kaayo kung gamiton sa manufacturing ug uban pang industriya na nanginahanglan ug mano-mano na trabaho...aron pud mapuslan ang mga istambay sa pasil, carbon, ug uban pang lugar para sa paglambo sa atong Sugbo...

ug kanang tourism, aw, di ta angay mahakog ana...papiskan pud nato ang ubang lugar, sa tinuod lang, dili pud baya lami huna-huna-on na mga taga-gawas maoy makapahimulos sa kaanindot sa atong lugar...maayo man nang naa tay effort sa tourism, apan mas maayo na dili nato pasagdan ang ubang industriya na makapadani sa kwarta dinhi sa ato ug kanang maka-encourage ug entrepreneurship, para puhon, kadaghanan sa mga bisaya na pud ang mag-relax-relax ug maglulinghaway sa mga resort ug hotel sa Sugbo, ug sa ubang nasud na pud


bro.. cebu is a manufacturing powerhouse of the country baya...... but of course.. we need more........ mao seguro na gusto ipalang na balaod ni congressman Gullas to declare the entire Cebu as Economic Zone..

in a way, naa man sad sya advantage.. mas maayo na naay winwin situation.. most probably dili lang seguro the whole province.. but Mactan Island, West Cebu and North Cebu area lang... :)

Henz
May 24th, 2010, 09:07 AM
Last Saturday ga-start. . . on going pa karon sa IT Park






This is the real battle

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9283/diagramfa3.jpg

wow.. ka grabe na gud ani....... ang pinakataas karon.. naa pay 3 more na gusto moapas....... sus nuh?

Jarenz
May 24th, 2010, 11:05 AM
^^ that's what true skyscraper is . . .

ormocanon
May 24th, 2010, 12:07 PM
as wat I've experienced living in this "feeling rich nation"... I've learned to whish for the best for our Capital... From now on I will be proud of whatever Manila will achieve, and I will still represent Manila to the word... The thing is we should help coz it's not about Manila vs Cebu but it's about the Phlippines vs Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia...
Katong napa ko dira sa Cebu, mag yaw yaw ko nga sige lag Manila pero pag abot nako diri sa nasod nga proud kaayo sa ilang lahi, nga feelng first world na ilang yutang natawhan, naka realize ko nga Manila still represents our country same as they always represent LK here. Katong napa ko diha, nag huna huna kosa kalambuan sa Sugbo pero pag abot nako diri, nag hunahuna nako sa kalambuan sa tibuok Pilipinas kay I always say nga "I'm from the Philippines", not "I'm from Cebu"..
I represent the Philippines, I rpresent my Capital Manila here but I live in cebu:)
Mao sad nang ako bay. I love Ormoc. I love Tacloban. I love Cebu. I love Manila. But when I say I love Manila, ma-misunderstood sa ubang tawo nga nag-traydor ko sa Visayas. But the truth is, I love the Philippines. :cheers:

Henz
May 24th, 2010, 12:16 PM
Mao sad nang ako bay. I love Ormoc. I love Tacloban. I love Cebu. I love Manila. But when I say I love Manila, ma-misunderstood sa ubang tawo nga nag-traydor ko sa Visayas. But the truth is, I love the Philippines. :cheers:

We dont judge you for loving Manila or any place.... its just that your previous posts are very much like anti-Cebu....... ^^ therefore Cebu forumers considered you a troll in Cebu thread.. ^^

cebuboi
May 24th, 2010, 12:16 PM
usa ra ang rason bai....anha pa nimo/nato makit-an ang deprensya kon naa na ta sa laing nasod....co'z you are not primarily identified as cebuano or the rest but philippines/filipino in general and manila in particular not unless imo pa gyud i-explain anha pa nila mahibalo-an....but nevertheless our beloved place has already started it's name to be recognized...not bad though...

ormocanon
May 24th, 2010, 12:23 PM
We dont judge you for loving Manila or any place.... its just that your previous posts are very much like anti-Cebu....... ^^ therefore Cebu forumers considered you a troll in Cebu thread.. ^^
I may have answered some anti-Manila/CamSur/Luzon sentiments in this thread, but that doesn't make me anti-Cebu. In fact, I didn't say anything ugly or offensive against Cebu. I'm in your city almost every month so how can I hate Cebu? I speak Cebuano, for crying out loud. Anyways, that's the past and I just want to clear things out. Peace to all of you and everyone in SSC! :):cheers:

Henz
May 24th, 2010, 12:30 PM
as wat I've experienced living in this "feeling rich nation"... I've learned to whish for the best for our Capital... From now on I will be proud of whatever Manila will achieve, and I will still represent Manila to the word... The thing is we should help coz it's not about Manila vs Cebu but it's about the Phlippines vs Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia...
Katong napa ko dira sa Cebu, mag yaw yaw ko nga sige lag Manila pero pag abot nako diri sa nasod nga proud kaayo sa ilang lahi, nga feelng first world na ilang yutang natawhan, naka realize ko nga Manila still represents our country same as they always represent LK here. Katong napa ko diha, nag huna huna kosa kalambuan sa Sugbo pero pag abot nako diri, nag hunahuna nako sa kalambuan sa tibuok Pilipinas kay I always say nga "I'm from the Philippines", not "I'm from Cebu"..
I represent the Philippines, I rpresent my Capital Manila here but I live in cebu:)

Actually, as filipino ingon man jud na slerz.... when we are out of the country ang e represent nato is ang Country's pride.. not anymore any regionalistic pride... but when you're here in the Philippine its another story, dili na jud nato na kalikayan ang being regionalistic...... but of course.. we are a one "Nation" and our capital is Manila..

And when in war.. we as a nation shall defend our capital city.. because this is the seat of our government which represents us as one nation...

And when we are outside the country.. makadungog gani tag criticisms or insinuations against the philippines or fellow filipino ( any province) mobukal dayon atong dugo...... ( in that way our being a nation occupies us more than our being regionalistic or parochial)




RE: tourism...
base sa akong nakit an diri sa nasod nga proud kaayo kay top tourist destination man daw sila, bisan kinsa man bay maka trabaho sa tourism. Naay tig guyod lang sa jetski padong sa baybayon, nakakwarta na siya... naay tig tugpo lang sa parachute, naka kwarta na siya... naa say tig sul ob rag life jacket sa turista, naka kwarta na siya...



Dili sad ta ka blame nila slerz.. kay ilaha man sad nang National Pride.. mao respect na lang ta... They are so much proud of it that they cant help flaunt it... it's basically a natural social reaction. ( naa na syay term ana in sociology... research sa nako balik. hehee)

Henz
May 24th, 2010, 12:38 PM
I may have answered some anti-Manila/CamSur/Luzon sentiments in this thread, but that doesn't make me anti-Cebu. In fact, I didn't say anything ugly or offensive against Cebu. I'm in your city almost every month so how can I hate Cebu? I speak Cebuano, for crying out loud. Anyways, that's the past and I just want to clear things out. Peace to all of you and everyone in SSC! :):cheers:


Its nice to hear you speaking this @ ormocanon.. because we are used to fighting you in the thread.... honestly, here in SSC Cebu.. everybody considered you a troll ( at least for those who knew you)..

but of course.. we accept your peace offering. I hope you also understand why we are like this.. just like a true soldier to her motherland we are ready to defend... :)

SleMarKen
May 24th, 2010, 12:44 PM
^^Normal ra bai kung proud kaayo ka sa imong country, I can understand, I'm open to that...
normal: my country is a rich nation (a national pride)
abnormal: my country is a rich nation, yours is sh*t... (a bllsht pride)

ang di lang nako ganahan nila kay i look down nila ang Indonesia... I'm not rom Indonesia pero mao maohon ra nia ang taga Indonesia...


Taiwanese are proud people, very proud of their country. diha ra kutob, di na sila mangialam sa ubang nasod... mao nay sakto :okay:

Henz
May 24th, 2010, 01:44 PM
^^Normal ra bai kung proud kaayo ka sa imong country, I can understand, I'm open to that...
normal: my country is a rich nation (a national pride)
abnormal: my country is a rich nation, yours is sh*t... (a bllsht pride)

ang di lang nako ganahan nila kay i look down nila ang Indonesia... I'm not rom Indonesia pero mao maohon ra nia ang taga Indonesia...


Taiwanese are proud people, very proud of their country. diha ra kutob, di na sila mangialam sa ubang nasod... mao nay sakto :okay:


when we say.. our country is a rich nation........... normal lang na ( even kita moingon sad ta ana).. who is far more richer is another story... kay depende man kon unsa ang determinants..


pero kung moingon..... "but yours is bulls__t!!! .. lahi sad na.. diha na mosulod ang atong "Nationalistic Pride"... mao na nitingkag ang imo dunggan.. pero wa ka mahimo slerz kay naa man ka sa sulod sa ilang country....... even sa Singapore maldito kaayo na sila..... kung ikaw maligsan nila.. ikaw pay sad an kay kung wa daw ka moadto sa ilang lugar dili ka maligsan... . :)

SleMarKen
May 24th, 2010, 01:48 PM
^^tinglag gyu... maka tilaw gyud sila'g unsay ayo sa BuakSkull...:lol:

kenken94
May 24th, 2010, 02:59 PM
Basig muabot nana sa Jet Stream ang mga Skyscraper puhon............... tag-as na kaayo..........

AmbutLang
May 24th, 2010, 03:06 PM
This is the real battle. . .

Originally Posted by: Saudi guy

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9283/diagramfa3.jpg

Dili paalkansi ang Saudi, munho rana nila. :banana2: Sila gyud nag control sa oil economy. Naka utot man gali ang Dubai sa ilang burj? Maghimo sila lain na ka-igit2x gyud na. :nuts: :)

habagatcentral1
May 24th, 2010, 03:24 PM
^^ Reminds me of Tower of Babel. Now that we can understand each other in English, it might be another cause of misunderstanding in the future......:D

Daizuke
May 24th, 2010, 05:16 PM
^^ Recent news says that the proposed Mile Tower will be 500 meters shorter than the original plan

bakasaurus
May 24th, 2010, 07:33 PM
^^ Recent news says that the proposed Mile Tower will be 500 meters shorter than the original plan

Mao daw giusab na lang pod ang pangan...Mile-500 na daw..

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 25th, 2010, 02:10 AM
I may have answered some anti-Manila/CamSur/Luzon sentiments in this thread, but that doesn't make me anti-Cebu. In fact, I didn't say anything ugly or offensive against Cebu. I'm in your city almost every month so how can I hate Cebu? I speak Cebuano, for crying out loud. Anyways, that's the past and I just want to clear things out. Peace to all of you and everyone in SSC! :):cheers:

hahaha...
no you take this :puke::puke::puke:
you deserve it!

Daizuke
May 25th, 2010, 02:19 AM
I may have answered some anti-Manila/CamSur/Luzon sentiments in this thread, but that doesn't make me anti-Cebu. In fact, I didn't say anything ugly or offensive against Cebu. I'm in your city almost every month so how can I hate Cebu? I speak Cebuano, for crying out loud. Anyways, that's the past and I just want to clear things out. Peace to all of you and everyone in SSC! :):cheers:


Why do I find your statement unconvincing?

RonnieR
May 25th, 2010, 03:34 AM
24 May, 2010

It’s Blu for Cebu
http://www.travelmole.com/stories/1142465.php?mpnlog=1

Carlson Hotels will this year open its first Radisson Blu hotel in Asia Pacific.

Located in the Philippines, Radisson Blu Hotel Cebu is expected to open in September 2010.

“With more than 40 per cent of Radisson’s contracted pipeline coming from Asia Pacific, this opening is a pivotal milestone in our global growth strategy,” said Hubert Joly, Carlson president, CEO and director.

Carlson Hotels plans to grow the global Radisson brand portfolio from 422 hotels at the end of 2009 to at least 600 hotels by 2015.

Located in Cebu’s premier information technology hub, the 400-room Radisson Blu Hotel Cebu is owned by SM Investments Corporation.

leylander
May 25th, 2010, 04:16 AM
^^December 2009 nahimong May 2010 nahimong June 2010. Karon September 2010. lol

diehardbisdak
May 25th, 2010, 04:52 AM
^ likewise, sa iMax Cebu lol!

AmbutLang
May 25th, 2010, 05:18 AM
^ likewise, sa iMax Cebu lol!

Ang ilang SRP? maayo di maapiktohan. :ohno:

kindofperfect82888
May 25th, 2010, 07:53 AM
This may be irrelevant for some. But I am just proud of my alma mater USJR, also UC and USC for their performance sa May 2010 CPA Board Exams. Adelante!

Top Scorers

1. GECEL GABUCAN CODERA UNIVERSITY OF SAN JOSE-RECOLETOS 93.14
3. NIÑO MARTIN ARCENAL JUNTONG UNIVERSITY OF SAN JOSE-RECOLETOS 92.71
6. RENE BOY MONSIDA LEBORES UNIVERSITY OF CEBU 92.00
MARK SOLATORIO UNIVERSITY OF SAN JOSE-RECOLETOS 92.00
10. RITCHIE ZANORIA TEJANA UNIVERSITY OF SAN CARLOS 91.14

Henz
May 25th, 2010, 08:26 AM
wow ha.... topnotcher ang USJR...... Congrats.......

Kudos also to my alma mater...... USC for bagging the 10th spot......

betro
May 25th, 2010, 08:36 AM
wow ha.... topnotcher ang USJR...... Congrats.......

Kudos also to my alma mater...... USC for bagging the 10th spot......

Congrats pod ako alma mater kay no. 1.:banana:

cebuboi
May 25th, 2010, 08:47 AM
This may be irrelevant for some. But I am just proud of my alma mater USJR, also UC and USC for their performance sa May 2010 CPA Board Exams. Adelante!

Top Scorers

1. GECEL GABUCAN CODERA UNIVERSITY OF SAN JOSE-RECOLETOS 93.14
3. NIÑO MARTIN ARCENAL JUNTONG UNIVERSITY OF SAN JOSE-RECOLETOS 92.71
6. RENE BOY MONSIDA LEBORES UNIVERSITY OF CEBU 92.00
MARK SOLATORIO UNIVERSITY OF SAN JOSE-RECOLETOS 92.00
10. RITCHIE ZANORIA TEJANA UNIVERSITY OF SAN CARLOS 91.14



congrats pud sa akong alma mater...no. 1 A D E L A N T E!!!...:cheers::cheers::cheers:

to other cebu schools congrats.....cebu rocks!!!!

rustyboi
May 25th, 2010, 09:13 AM
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From Singapore, soon in Cebu @ The Northwing.

http://www.chewyjunior.com.sg/

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 25th, 2010, 09:32 AM
Congrats pud sa akong MGA alma maters: University of San Carlos and University of Cebu!
:banana::banana::banana::banana:
:cheers::cheers::cheers:

weewit
May 25th, 2010, 12:33 PM
Talima

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Shang

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Lumot sa Talima

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Pink icon

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blueguy
May 25th, 2010, 04:08 PM
Mas OK yun na sigurado before mag-open.... I'm sure jaws will drop when they oepn...even SRP.... baka iiyak daw ang Terraces....

^ likewise, sa iMax Cebu lol!

^^December 2009 nahimong May 2010 nahimong June 2010. Karon September 2010. lol

24 May, 2010

It’s Blu for Cebu
http://www.travelmole.com/stories/1142465.php?mpnlog=1

Carlson Hotels will this year open its first Radisson Blu hotel in Asia Pacific.

Located in the Philippines, Radisson Blu Hotel Cebu is expected to open in September 2010.

“With more than 40 per cent of Radisson’s contracted pipeline coming from Asia Pacific, this opening is a pivotal milestone in our global growth strategy,” said Hubert Joly, Carlson president, CEO and director.

Carlson Hotels plans to grow the global Radisson brand portfolio from 422 hotels at the end of 2009 to at least 600 hotels by 2015.

Located in Cebu’s premier information technology hub, the 400-room Radisson Blu Hotel Cebu is owned by SM Investments Corporation.

Ang ilang SRP? maayo di maapiktohan. :ohno:

Henz
May 26th, 2010, 06:18 AM
Wow ha................. "IIYAK ANG TERRACES" .. WE WILL LOVE IT!!!! LET THE COMPETITION BEGIN!!!!

Sinjin P.
May 26th, 2010, 06:43 AM
^ When SM SRP opens, The Terraces will cry. When ACC Phase II-B opens, everybody happy? :lol:

Anyway,

Happy 30th Anniversary to OUR VERY OWN Orange Brutus!

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bakasaurus
May 26th, 2010, 08:15 AM
Wow ha................. "IIYAK ANG TERRACES" .. WE WILL LOVE IT!!!! LET THE COMPETITION BEGIN!!!!

Hala morag nindot ni dah. Cge I-hype nato ni hahahaha. Bantay bitaw sa SM ha. We will be expecting a lot kung makapahilak man kaha sa Terraces (which has really raised the bar high to begin with).:lol:

lionel messi
May 26th, 2010, 11:01 AM
Mas OK yun na sigurado before mag-open.... I'm sure jaws will drop when they oepn...even SRP.... baka iiyak daw ang Terraces....

translation please

bakasaurus
May 26th, 2010, 12:11 PM
translation please

So, you aren't actually living in the Philippines? Don't you understand any bit of Tagalog? Just English and Cebuano? (I7m guessing you are in the US? Because you are always very sarcastic when you post..hehe. No offense though:))

[Re: Radisson Blu Hotel] It's better to be really prepared and sure before opening.. Sigurado ko nga mangatagak ang inyong mga bag-ang inig pangabli nila..even [the mall at] SRP, [Ayala's] The Terraces might even cry about it.

Lol. :lol:

Henz
May 26th, 2010, 12:38 PM
@ lionell.. blueguy is actually an ilonggo.. might be he does not know 100% how to speak cebuano...... ato na lang na sya tagaan ug chance mag tinagalog dire sa thread.. hehehe

mi.hyul
May 26th, 2010, 12:45 PM
wow. there will be a sure war between the SRP and CBP. what about the Robinson's in NRA? nahanaw naman.

bakasaurus
May 26th, 2010, 12:53 PM
Osmeña-Gullas debate 'will be entertaining'


By Elias O. Baquero

A CEBU Capitol official yesterday said it would be interesting and entertaining for the Cebuanos if incoming Rep. Tomas Osmeña (Cebu City, south district) will make good his threat to oppose the economic zone bill and debate with Rep. Eduardo Gullas (Cebu, 1st) in the 15th Congress.

Capitol spokesperson Rory Jon Sepulveda said once a Gullas-Osmeña debate will be scheduled in the plenary of the House of Representatives, hundreds of Cebuanos, including him, will spend money and time to fill up the Congress gallery just to witness how the outgoing Cebu City mayor will perform as a legislator.

"Even if I cannot get an econo-fare (from an airline), I would go to Congress. I will fall in line and I will listen to Tomas during his interpellation to that bill of Gullas," Sepulveda said in a press conference yesterday.

Gullas, in a press conference last Sunday, said he will re-file his bill creating the Cebu Economic Development Zone when Congress opens in July.
The bill was not passed in the 13th and 14th Congress.

The bill seeks to make the entire Cebu (including Cebu City and the islands of Camotes and Bantayan) an economic zone where businessmen and investors will enjoy
tax exemptions on importations and minimal tax fees on real estate and sales.

If the Gullas bill will be passed into law, a source who requested anonymity said this will also convert the Bantayan and Camotes islands into alienable and disposable lands.

Residents of Bantayan and Camotes who are holding only tax declarations of their properties cannot secure land titles because of a law preserving the areas for wilderness and mangroves.

Earlier, Osmeña said he will block the two projects the Cebuano bloc will propose in Congress.

Osmeña said he will do everything to leave the City out in the proposed Light Rail Transit-Mono Rail Transit project for Cebu and the ecozone bill.

While the proposal to make Cebu an economic zone is seen to attract investors because of tax exemptions, he said the delivery of basic services, which relies on tax collections, will suffer.

Osmeña, who is at odds with Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia, will not join the Cebuano bloc.

The bloc includes Gullas, Pablo Garcia (2nd), Pablo John Garcia (3rd), Benhur Salimbangon (4th), Ramon "Red" Durano VI (5th), Luigi Quisumbing (6th) and Arturo Radaza of the lone district of Lapu-Lapu City (7th).

Sepulveda said the interpellation will allow the audience to see the wisdom or mediocrity of lawmakers.

"That would be the essence of a Republican system of government-that our representatives in Congress will be arguing and debating on what is good for Cebu," Sepulveda said.

Sepulveda believes majority of the members of the Cebu Chamber of Commerce and Industry are supporting the Gullas bill because they brought it up as one of the possible legislative agenda that Cebu lawmakers must prioritize.


Frankly, I'm not one of those who enjoy "entertainment" in our political arena. There's too much entertainment already. Why is our politics inseparable from showbiz? I've had enough of grandstanding politicians especially when there is TV coverage.

But regarding the ecozone bill. I believe that we need to go into that direction and open up to the world economy to boost our development and make our city and the whole province truly cosmopolitan (ug ala Singapore nga city state hahaha). However, Tomas does have some valid points raised against this bill. Asa bitaw unya ta mukuha ug funds for our local public services nga gamay ra man gani ang atoang IRA? Unya og muderecho na hinuon og samot didtos kaulohan ang atoang resources.

I think it's best to go Federal first! Unya we can have a constitutional and legal basis for more control sa atoang resources. Then, we won't have to worry so much inig maconvert na ta into an ecozone.

Henz
May 26th, 2010, 01:48 PM
La Mirada Towers as shown from Portofino Beach..


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blueguy
May 26th, 2010, 02:54 PM
salamat kaayo bai... maglisud-lisod man gud ko mag cebuano...pero makaSABOT (not the Ilonggo term) :lol:

@ lionell.. blueguy is actually an ilonggo.. might be he does not know 100% how to speak cebuano...... ato na lang na sya tagaan ug chance mag tinagalog dire sa thread.. hehehe

rustyboi
May 26th, 2010, 03:55 PM
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Asia at War: Philippine Resistance: Refusal To Surrender (http://www.historyasia.com/synopsis.aspx?libId=889&sId=619&sTime=600)

Gen MacArthur famously promised that 'I shall return' before retreating but this was possible only with Filipino guerrillas bravely fighting on.

I never thought/knew the Cebu guerrillas were the "key" in winning the war against the Japs. Find out how! Check the TV schedule (http://www.historyasia.com/synopsis.aspx?libId=889&sId=619&sTime=600), very nice gyud pagka document, do check it out. :okay:

diehardbisdak
May 26th, 2010, 05:02 PM
Cebu Temple (flickr pic by @Cecil.Uy)

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diehardbisdak
May 26th, 2010, 05:05 PM
flickr pic by @Rita Willaert

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bakasaurus
May 26th, 2010, 07:49 PM
Oki..Nindot na lang nga mosque ang kuwang. Haha. Asa na man to ang sa SRP?Nawala na man sa passing, madayon pa kaha to?

Lamat sa update spree Master Diehard.

blueguy
May 27th, 2010, 02:50 AM
SIMALA (taken May 26, 2010)

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gcort
May 27th, 2010, 04:22 AM
Cebu City @ sunset viewed from Cordova, Cebu.
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gcort
May 27th, 2010, 04:44 AM
Mactan International Airport
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Alinghi
May 27th, 2010, 05:57 AM
butangi pud ninyo ug price :lol: foodtrip ever jud ko everytime i'm in cebu :cheers2:

leylander
May 27th, 2010, 07:40 AM
GABII SA KABILIN 2010
Individual Museums/Gallery Presentation
May 28, 2010
6:00 pm to Midnight

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CASA GORORDO MUSEUM
6:00 Looping Video Gabii Sa Kabilin / RAFI
7:00 Heritage Fashion Walk / Marigondon Children's Orchestra
8:00 Izarzuri Vidal
9:00 Badjao Performers
9:30 Dumanjug Balitaw/Awit/Balak
11:00 Sugbuanong Kanta c/o Ernie Lariosa

YAP-SANDIEGO HOUSE/PLAZA PARIAN
8:00 Sandiego Dancers
8:30 Dumanjug Balitaw/ Awit/Balak
10:00 Badjao Performers

1730 JESUIT HOUSE
6:00 Sinulog Film Winners 2005-2010
9:00 Film Showing (Cebuano FIlms)
10:00 Bathalad Poetry Reading

USPF - RIZALIAN MUSEUM/PLAZA HAMABAR
6:00 Rizal Execution
7:00 USPF Dance Group - Spanish Dance in Streets
8:00 Rizal Execution
9:00 USPF Dance Group - Spanish Dance in Streets

CATHEDRAL MUSEUM
6:00 Actual Sketching for a fee
7:30 Balak

STO. NIñO MUSEUM
8:00 Accordion
8:30 Lumad Basakanon (Pilgrim Center)
9:00 Lumad Basakanon (Entrance)

FORT SAN PEDRO
6:00 Rondalla/Musicians
7:30 Pre-Hispanic/Spanish Dances
8:00 Cultural Dances
11:00 Rondalla and Harpist

SACRED HEART GALLERY
6:00 Art Fair
9:30 UP Performing Arts

--------------------
nindot ang mga presentations this year. especially kanang mga naka-red. let's support the GSK2010. see you there!

a_terisk78y™
May 27th, 2010, 12:24 PM
a newbie lakawboy? :lol:
at cansaga bridge
taken this afternoon by me...

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dark_knight_detectve
May 27th, 2010, 03:16 PM
SM group to open upscale hotel project in Cebu City
http://www.businessweekmindanao.com/2010/05/sm-group-to-open-upscale-hotel-project-in-cebu-city.html

By JADE LOPEZ
Correspondent
EXPECTING a boom in the tourism business, the hotel arm of Henry Sy-led SM Investments Corp. will open an upscale hotel in Cebu by the second half of the year.

“Wholly owned subsidiary SM Hotels and Conventions Corp. is scheduled to open its premier project in the Visayas, the Radisson Blu Hotel Cebu, by the second half of this year,” the company told the local bourse in a disclosure Thursday.

“It will be positioned as the city’s leading international upper upscale hotel,” said SM Investments, the holding firm of the mall, retail and banking businesses of the Sy family.

The 400-room Radisson Blu Hotel Cebu will be Carlson Hotels’ first Radisson Blu hotel in the Asia Pacific. Carlson Hotels is a global hotel company with more than 1,060 locations in 77 countries.
The hotel will have 10 function rooms; two ballrooms, one of which will be a 1,000-square-meter pillar-less main ballroom; a spa and fitness center; a lobby lounge; an all-day dining restaurant; and a swimming pool.

The new hotel is aiming to attract both business and leisure travelers in Cebu City.
“This is the start for us to roll up our sleeves and deliver a project that all Cebuanos will be proud of. It will be a development that will draw not just people from the Visayas and Mindanao but also from Luzon,” SM Prime Holdings President Hans Sy said.

He said the signing of the memorandum of agreement with the city government officially signified SM’s commitment to develop the area within eight years.

Sy proudly unveiled the master plan for the property that includes allocating 250,000 square meters for a shopping mall that is expected to be one of the 10 largest malls in the world once completed.

The entire 30 hectares will be an integrated facility that will host two hotels, a huge convention center occupying about 20,000 square meters, high-rise residential and commercial condominiums, a university and a hospital.
Sy told the media that construction of the mall will be its priority project, with groundbreaking targeted “before the start of the rainy season” this year.

“We are looking at duplicating in Cebu what we have done in Manila,” he said, noting that the company’s property at the SRP, which boasts of a sea view, is one of the best locations they have purchased
“The upcoming opening of Radisson Blu Hotel Cebu further enhances SM’s range of tourism products and services,” Elizabeth T. Sy, president of SM Hotels and Conventions Corp., said in the statement.

“It is also our timely response to the country’s growing demand for first-rate accommodations for tourists and business travellers,” she added.
Radisson Blu Hotel will be located at Cebu City’s North Reclamation Area, near the city’s international port, and SM City Cebu.
Last year, Cebu attracted more than 1.6 million foreign and domestic travelers.
Shares in SM Investments, whose profits grew by 14% in the first quarter to P4.8 billion, shed P2.50 on Thursday to close at P392.50 apiece.
Print PDF Post Published: 23 May 2010
Author: BWM
Found in section: Corp Board, Real Estate

Linguine
May 27th, 2010, 05:24 PM
Big ICT-BPO meeting in Cebu on June 22
Written by Wilfredo Rodolfo III / Reporter
Friday, 28 May 2010 08:00

STAKEHOLDERS in the country’s growing information and communication technology (ICT) as well as the business process outsourcing (BPO) industry meet in Cebu on June 22 to discuss growth areas.

Conference chairman Jerry Rapes, said the biggest challenge for Cebu was to make it the ideal hub for ICT and the BPO industry.

“We are constantly looking for opportunities to bring higher-value activities to Cebu to highlight our potential,” Rapes, said.

The conference, part of the Cebu Business Month celebration of the Cebu Chamber of Commerce and Industry, highlights the three-growth areas of the local economy—ICT, tourism and small businesses.

One of the objectives of the conference is to get the stakeholders of the industry to build a broader road map. The conference is hoped to showcase successes of the players and forge stronger ties between the stakeholders in the industry and those in the government and academe.

Growth areas for Cebu include cloud-computing, considering the growing competence of the products of local universities, Rapes said.

He also identified health care, animation and gaming as well as interactive mobile applications as a growing sector in Cebu. “In terms of competence and infrastructure, Cebu is already equal with the bigger cities,” Rapes said.

It is estimated that the ICT and BPO industries in Metro Cebu employ some 50,000 workers or roughly 20 percent of the country’s $7-billion industry. Rapes said there is still plenty of room for growth and this aspect will be identified in the congress.


source (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25760:big-ict-bpo-meeting-in-cebu-on-june-22&catid=33:economy&Itemid=60)

lionel messi
May 27th, 2010, 05:42 PM
So, you aren't actually living in the Philippines? Don't you understand any bit of Tagalog? Just English and Cebuano? (I7m guessing you are in the US? Because you are always very sarcastic when you post..hehe. No offense though:))

[Re: Radisson Blu Hotel] It's better to be really prepared and sure before opening.. Sigurado ko nga mangatagak ang inyong mga bag-ang inig pangabli nila..even [the mall at] SRP, [Ayala's] The Terraces might even cry about it.

Lol. :lol:

we're neighbors.

lionel messi
May 27th, 2010, 05:45 PM
@ lionell.. blueguy is actually an ilonggo.. might be he does not know 100% how to speak cebuano...... ato na lang na sya tagaan ug chance mag tinagalog dire sa thread.. hehehe

pero mas maayo man ang iyang ininglis bai. ininglis nalang oi.

blueguy
May 27th, 2010, 05:55 PM
pero mas maayo man ang iyang ininglis bai. ininglis nalang oi.

noted sir :lol:

shaKEIRa
May 27th, 2010, 06:42 PM
E BLOC TOWER

Home of NEC Technologies and JP Morgan Call Center..


http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3687/dsc00150nq.jpg


http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4331/dsc00151jp.jpg

NCR po... dira ga work akong ate...:cheers:

Henz
May 28th, 2010, 08:22 AM
aw.. oo diay.. i stand corrected.......... its NCR... sorry.

rustyboi
May 28th, 2010, 09:09 AM
Big ICT-BPO meeting in Cebu on June 22 (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25760:big-ict-bpo-meeting-in-cebu-on-june-22&catid=33:economy&Itemid=60)
Economy
Written by Wilfredo Rodolfo III / Reporter
FRIDAY, 28 MAY 2010 08:00

STAKEHOLDERS in the country’s growing information and communication technology (ICT) as well as the business process outsourcing (BPO) industry meet in Cebu on June 22 to discuss growth areas.

Conference chairman Jerry Rapes, said the biggest challenge for Cebu was to make it the ideal hub for ICT and the BPO industry.

“We are constantly looking for opportunities to bring higher-value activities to Cebu to highlight our potential,” Rapes, said.

The conference, part of the Cebu Business Month celebration of the Cebu Chamber of Commerce and Industry, highlights the three-growth areas of the local economy—ICT, tourism and small businesses.

One of the objectives of the conference is to get the stakeholders of the industry to build a broader road map. The conference is hoped to showcase successes of the players and forge stronger ties between the stakeholders in the industry and those in the government and academe.

Growth areas for Cebu include cloud-computing, considering the growing competence of the products of local universities, Rapes said.

He also identified health care, animation and gaming as well as interactive mobile applications as a growing sector in Cebu. “In terms of competence and infrastructure, Cebu is already equal with the bigger cities,” Rapes said.

It is estimated that the ICT and BPO industries in Metro Cebu employ some 50,000 workers or roughly 20 percent of the country’s $7-billion industry. Rapes said there is still plenty of room for growth and this aspect will be identified in the congress.

Ejames
May 28th, 2010, 02:23 PM
SIMALA (taken May 26, 2010)

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nice update...

Ejames
May 28th, 2010, 02:49 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4646894145_67c10e36e1_b.jpg

redjieredz
May 28th, 2010, 02:56 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4646894145_67c10e36e1_b.jpg

^^ Nice shot ejames,....

RonnieR
May 29th, 2010, 12:38 AM
Cebu Temple (flickr pic by @Cecil.Uy)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4639483500_c9ccb8959d_b.jpg

Nice...where is this located?

Daizuke
May 29th, 2010, 01:06 AM
^^ @ Lahug, Cebu City.. before reaching J.Y Square Mall

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 29th, 2010, 03:22 AM
^^
along Gorordo Avenue. ;)

arkijo
May 29th, 2010, 03:51 AM
maayong adlaw mga bai! ganda talaga ng cebu! someday punta ako dyan.

southernbelle
May 29th, 2010, 06:39 AM
CEBUNEXT International Furniture Show
Last March 5-8, 2010



7q9X1_1wP3s

SleMarKen
May 29th, 2010, 07:01 AM
Nice...where is this located?

uy bai... musta... pasencya na sa Asian Forums, parang tayo pa tuloy ang nag aargue don mga kapwa Pilipino... basta I'm one of you there in defending our Motherland...:cheers:

Thank you anyways for visiting us always here:)


Sa Lahu yan, papuntang JY Square...

MatudNilaBaby
May 29th, 2010, 12:03 PM
CEBUNEXT International Furniture Show
Last March 5-8, 2010



7q9X1_1wP3s

very impressive displays. pang world class na gyud ang standard sa design nato dinha. i hope our schools can continue to produce such world class artistic talents. kudos to all our cebuano artists and designers!

Ejames
May 29th, 2010, 12:57 PM
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southernbelle
May 29th, 2010, 02:35 PM
♪ ♫ ♪ The Guitars of Cebu ♫ ♪ ♫


3gBAeebC9Ls


Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gBAeebC9Ls

wiljamesc1979
May 29th, 2010, 02:51 PM
To the photography enthusiasts may tanong lang ako:

Is canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens a good quality lens? If not, which lens is better for the eos cam? Di lang ang sobrang mahal...Thank you!

BULLDOG
May 29th, 2010, 04:38 PM
a newbie lakawboy? :lol:
at cansaga bridge
taken this afternoon by me...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3406/4643936185_3b7391cc62.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4644554782_c533f8932d.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/4643941813_2862f7f42c.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4643937675_a2f73fdb5f.jpg


I hope madayon unta kadtong gi proposed nga tourism complex diring dapita.....

Wolfranz
May 29th, 2010, 06:55 PM
very impressive displays. pang world class na gyud ang standard sa design nato dinha. i hope our schools can continue to produce such world class artistic talents. kudos to all our cebuano artists and designers!

in fact, some of the displayed pieces in CebuNEXT were designed by interior design and industrial design students of USC & UP, respectively, thru sponsorships with the furniture companies...

SleMarKen
May 29th, 2010, 07:03 PM
btw, nus a mhuman ang flyover sa mambaling.... kay hapit na abli ang klase, humantikaan gyud na dihang dapita...

zidlakan
May 30th, 2010, 03:15 AM
btw, nus a mhuman ang flyover sa mambaling.... kay hapit na abli ang klase, humantikaan gyud na dihang dapita...

mao pa'y pag sugod so whole semester na'ng sitwasyon diha. citom can pro-
vide "some" traffic management but it will not be enough. traffic management
only improves traffic condition a little bit. traffic management "improves" traf-
fic, NOT "solve" traffic problems. transport planning is the key - something that
is NOT provided by DPWH or DOTC. so humantikaan jud tinuod.

SleMarKen
May 30th, 2010, 04:21 AM
^^ so mura'g tibuok school year gyud na mag aguroy ang mga motorista dha sir? :ohno:

zidlakan
May 30th, 2010, 04:38 AM
^^ so mura'g tibuok school year gyud na mag aguroy ang mga motorista dha sir? :ohno:

people are not talking about these things, and people will get angry at me when
i talk about this things, pero kanang imo giingon, di pa na mao. di lang tibuok
tuig but the years to come pa jud. the traffic situation in cebu will get worse
no matter how many flyovers you build. people sometimes think flyovers will
solve traffic. well, these can alleviate intersection traffic conditions but not
traffic on the corridor. so in the long run mo-worse pa jud ni!

flesh_is_weak
May 30th, 2010, 05:05 AM
^^implement ug congestion fee sir :lol:

what if, in order to reach an accord, para malipay ang mga politiko, ug labi sa tanan, kami dinhi sa SSC, sundon nato ang model sa Ottawa ug magbutang ta ug LRT ug BRT dinhi sa Cebu? National government bitaw mobayad :lol:

SleMarKen
May 30th, 2010, 05:18 AM
people are not talking about these things, and people will get angry at me when
i talk about this things, pero kanang imo giingon, di pa na mao. di lang tibuok
tuig but the years to come pa jud. the traffic situation in cebu will get worse
no matter how many flyovers you build. people sometimes think flyovers will
solve traffic. well, these can alleviate intersection traffic conditions but not
traffic on the corridor. so in the long run mo-worse pa jud ni!

Sus, bad news gyud... Samot pa ig mag pista ang Pardo Sir... ma humandelechon de leche na gyud na dihang dapita...:D

zidlakan
May 30th, 2010, 05:26 AM
^^implement ug congestion fee sir :lol:

what if, in order to reach an accord, para malipay ang mga politiko, ug labi sa tanan, kami dinhi sa SSC, sundon nato ang model sa Ottawa ug magbutang ta ug LRT ug BRT dinhi sa Cebu? National government bitaw mobayad :lol:

congestion fee is a reactive solution to an existing gridlock problem and should
be a last resort. forward planning in transportation is the key.

the issue about LRT and BRT, or the other extreme, integrated LRT-BRT has
been extensively discussed here and in the other threads in the Cebu Infra-
structure and Transportation thread. maybe the debate will not end, but the
bottom line is, economic feasibility and overall mobility and inclusiveness. so
far, most of the arguments are descriptive in nature and did not offer any defi-
nite numbers. only the world bank has a clear indication at this time and made
a decision last year.

as to national government, think of it this way ... you belong to a poor
family with your parents working hard to provide for you and your siblings.
then you say you want to buy an expensive car, and reason out, "di bitaw
ako mobayad, ang ako mang ginikanan!" well, many have this thinking but
me, i don't.


the idea is to look for a solution that will not put the country further into debt.
we're so much indebted as we are now, so economic viability is the foremost
consideration. if we have so much money to waste, then we could be unmindful
of expenses. but introspection will show us its still a long way to go, maybe in
30 to 50 years ...

SleMarKen
May 30th, 2010, 05:32 AM
^^same Sir, I don't wanna depend financially. I'll make sure if I can provide first, but if I can't, I don't ask... It will only depend on them if they will provide or not... In relation to our country's financial situation...

Henz
May 30th, 2010, 06:22 AM
♪ ♫ ♪ The Guitars of Cebu ♫ ♪ ♫


3gBAeebC9Ls


Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gBAeebC9Ls


thansk southernbelle for posting this........... this is nice..:)

Henz
May 30th, 2010, 06:24 AM
To the photography enthusiasts may tanong lang ako:

Is canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens a good quality lens? If not, which lens is better for the eos cam? Di lang ang sobrang mahal...Thank you!


i am also interested to know...... paging professional photographers.. pls. enlighten:)

redjieredz
May 30th, 2010, 08:44 AM
Construction of Mambaling Fly Over...

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8200/flyover2.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5011/flyover.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2218/flyover3.jpg

Ejames
May 30th, 2010, 09:01 AM
dugay pa kaau na mahuman.. next sem pa cguro na mahuman..

redjieredz
May 30th, 2010, 09:05 AM
dugay pa kaau na mahuman.. next sem pa cguro na mahuman..

^^ Mahuman na igka March next year,, Kinahanglan nako ani mo lakaw 2 hours before mag start ang class para dili ma late... :ohno:

Sinjin P.
May 30th, 2010, 11:00 AM
i am also interested to know...... paging professional photographers.. pls. enlighten:)

The 18-200mm lens is a good walkaround lens :)

SleMarKen
May 30th, 2010, 11:58 AM
Construction of Mambaling Fly Over...

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8200/flyover2.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5011/flyover.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2218/flyover3.jpg

Asus! record breaking gyud ang mag mug ot og mag yaw yaw nga taga south this sem kada buntag og panguli...

thanks sa pic Lakawboy @regj...

Jimbu
May 30th, 2010, 02:41 PM
^^ 2 lanes flyover na sab. mahimo na sab na bottleneck diha pareha Mandaue ug Tabunok

Ejames
May 30th, 2010, 04:11 PM
Asus! record breaking gyud ang mag mug ot og mag yaw yaw nga taga south this sem kada buntag og panguli...

thanks sa pic Lakawboy @regj...


humana man ang north [banilad-tlmban] karun south na pud... kapoi jud au na instead mulaag SM-ayala tambay na lang
sa balay.. wahaha

ferny123
May 30th, 2010, 04:13 PM
...

Goldman Sachs' projection - 20 largest economies in 2050.
GDPs in trillions (US)
1. China $70.710
2. USA $38.514
3. India $37.688
4. Brazil $11.366
5. Mexico $9.340
6. Russia $8.580
7. Indonesia $7.010
8. Japan $6.677
9. UK $5.133
10. Germany $5.024
11. Nigeria $4.640
12. France $4.592
13. South Korea $4.083
14. Turkey $3.943
15. Vietnam $3.607
16. Canada $3.149
17. PHILIPPINES $3.010
18. Italy
19. Iran
20. Egypt10 hours ago clear





if the year 2050 comes we should have a nice rapid transit system in place. so i think 2010-2020 we should have the first phase of the transit system. i hope the brt will be implemented. and in the future years an lrt system must also be in place or a subway. if we still dont have any rapid transit by the year 2020 i think it will stagnate the growth of cebu. and all the investors will be pouring into mindanao

ferny123
May 30th, 2010, 04:15 PM
^^ 2 lanes flyover na sab. mahimo na sab na bottleneck diha pareha Mandaue ug Tabunok

mandaue tabunok foodland BIR ug ayala tanan mga flyover dha kay mu bottleneck jud hahah

sir rob
May 30th, 2010, 04:16 PM
Sus, bad news gyud... Samot pa ig mag pista ang Pardo Sir... ma humandelechon de leche na gyud na dihang dapita...:D

-Pun-an pasad sa Sinulog sa Basak-Pardo.. (naa pa ba?)

sir rob
May 30th, 2010, 04:35 PM
i am also interested to know...... paging professional photographers.. pls. enlighten:)

-Bai, naa sa photography 101 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=662912&page=35)nga thread. The same question and a lot of inputs to learn. Basaha ang mga response ni "laquacherra".

Zuburbia
May 30th, 2010, 05:08 PM
mandaue tabunok foodland BIR ug ayala tanan mga flyover dha kay mu bottleneck jud hahah

paeta bitaw anang mga flyover oi! bati baya kayog mga dagway nang mga flyover nato diri cebu! dungag sa kahuot sa panan-aw! waaaaaaaaaaa makabuang! :ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

bakasaurus
May 30th, 2010, 06:10 PM
Sakto ka bai Ran.. Pwerteng ka eyesore. Tanawa gud na ang flyover sa may Ayala..tsktsk..

MatudNilaBaby
May 30th, 2010, 08:32 PM
mandaue tabunok foodland BIR ug ayala tanan mga flyover dha kay mu bottleneck jud hahah

kanang flyover ug tag one lane ra that will not solve the traffic congestion kay maglinya pman gihapon ka to get into the flyover. a two lane flyover is just right para kusog ang flow sa mga vehcles. basin ug two lane na kasagaran pero mahimo nalang one lane siguro sa pag-adjust sa mga bidders nga makawarta sila. rampant biya kaayo na sa city engineers ug dpwh kanang padangog sa mga inspectors.

donut_bai
May 30th, 2010, 10:56 PM
Plano siguro sa City Engineers ipa-flyover tanan intersections. Mao ra na ila mahuna-huna solution para wala na trapik. :lol:

zidlakan
May 31st, 2010, 02:46 AM
Plano siguro sa City Engineers ipa-flyover tanan intersections. Mao ra na ila mahuna-huna solution para wala na trapik. :lol:

please check your info. city engineers have nothing to do with these flyovers.
they may have a lot of faults and shortcomings, but i hope you won't attribute
to them something they have absolutely no involvement with.

flyovers are along national roads and these are directly under the DPWH.


Edit: FYI, i do have reservations on the proposed mambaling flyover. the way,
i look at it, traffic parameters might improve a for a few years but it will soon
be overcome by traffic growth. also, not all factors were considered, which
actually was the basis for my complaint --> http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/locals-%E2%80%98not-consulted%E2%80%99-mambaling-flyover

my position on this issue is - in my own analysis, implementing the BRT would
provide the better and longer-lasting solution to traffic congestion instead of
the flyovers. and they would look better, too. but i'm just one voice among
the many that makes decisions for our city, and mine remains suggestive and
recommendatory. how i really wish there is a cohesive group of cebuanos who
will make their voices heard with regards to flyovers which are not thoroughly
planned.

marxman
May 31st, 2010, 02:55 AM
please check your info. city engineers have nothing to do with these flyovers.
they may have a lot of faults and shortcomings, but i hope you won't attribute
to them something they have absolutely no involvement with.

flyovers are along national roads and these are directly under the DPWH.

sir how is that possible na city engineers has nothing to do with those flyovers?
kinsay mn diay nagbuot ana? dba dapat naay mga recommendation, study, etc ana if effective ba jud magbutang anang mga flyovers. kang kinsa mn diay nang job sir?

zidlakan
May 31st, 2010, 03:06 AM
sir how is that possible na city engineers has nothing to do with those flyovers?
kinsay mn diay nagbuot ana? dba dapat naay mga recommendation, study, etc ana if effective ba jud magbutang anang mga flyovers. kang kinsa mn diay nang job sir?

long story, but this is a basic dysfunction in our governance system. in a city
there are national roads, and there are local roads. in some cases, there are
categorization between provincial roads, city roads, municipal roads, and bgy.
roads, and the different levels of government have their "turf" so to speak. yes,
there are discussions, sometimes, but oftentimes, wa sa'y ma kuha nga kaayo-
han kay mamugos man jud ang kinsa'y naay jurisdiction sa ilang gusto.

the studies are done by DPWH ... and national at that, not local. that's why
i protested because when they did the studies for mambaling, i know that what
they did was do the traffic count along n. bacalso and mabaling access road,
project it using annual traffic growth rate which is in the "DPWH manual,"
then design the flyover. i argued that:
1) in the next three years there will be a big surge of traffic turning left
because of SM and FilInvest development at the SRP, and
2) there will be a decrease in traffic pressure along n bacalso because of the
BRT.
wa man ko paminawa kay humana kuno design, mag meeting na lang kuno mi
unya kung unsa'y buhaton. so that's the best i can do - meet with DPWH
and try to make adjustments for these ...

zidlakan
May 31st, 2010, 03:14 AM
^^
pero mild ra kaayo na. the worst thing that happened because of this "turf"
thing and propensity not to consult happened in metro manila. DOTC planned
an LRT line to cross and intersection. unknowingly, DPWH also planned a fly-
over on the same intersection to intersect the LRT line. magbugno ta to'ng
duha ka structures. luckily, nasakpan nga wa pa ma implement. don't know
if na news ni, o ila lang na hilot ug nahilom, pagkauwaw unta ...

AmbutLang
May 31st, 2010, 04:50 AM
Mao na nakabati sa subra ka centralized ang government unya dili pa gyud magka inusa ang provincial ug local government. Kung makabotar unta ang Cebu City sa kinsa ang magobernador sa provincia ug Federal form of government dili unta ni makaguliyang ang tanan. :nuts: :ohno:

RonnieR
May 31st, 2010, 05:07 AM
^^
pero mild ra kaayo na. the worst thing that happened because of this "turf"
thing and propensity not to consult happened in metro manila. DOTC planned
an LRT line to cross and intersection. unknowingly, DPWH also planned a fly-
over on the same intersection to intersect the LRT line. magbugno ta to'ng
duha ka structures. luckily, nasakpan nga wa pa ma implement. don't know
if na news ni, o ila lang na hilot ug nahilom, pagkauwaw unta ...

It was in the news but not a major one if this referred to the DPWH flyover in North Avenue and LRT North Extension is built there.

You're right, this turf war sometimes create inconvenience to the public. Classic example and long outstanding problem here in Manila:

Buendia flyover shared by Taguig and Makati: dark, no lights. According to MMDA, it is the responsibility of Makati but Makati said, the flyover is under national road, thus should be DPWH. According to Taguig, it should be under MMDA. See the bureaucracy.

zidlakan
May 31st, 2010, 05:41 AM
It was in the news but not a major one if this referred to the DPWH flyover in North Avenue and LRT North Extension is built there.

You're right, this turf war sometimes create inconvenience to the public. Classic example and long outstanding problem here in Manila:

Buendia flyover shared by Taguig and Makati: dark, no lights. According to MMDA, it is the responsibility of Makati but Makati said, the flyover is under national road, thus should be DPWH. According to Taguig, it should be under MMDA. See the bureaucracy.

you know, sometimes you don't know whether to laugh at it, or get angry.

but even if they do consult each other, there's still something lacking because
they don't do forward planning forward enough. so it ends up on flyovers
and LRT lines, and underpasses, through and left-turning, and pedestrian
crossings stacking one on top of the other such that sometimes like in the
MRT, you have to go up 4 flights of stairs just to reach the station! i mean,
how PWD-friendly can you get. i always suspected maybe this is the reason
why even if the MRT fares are lower, a number of people still prefer the EDSA
buses.

but the worst/funniest structure i always see everytime i go there (and my
heart broke each time i saw it) is a pedestrian crossing which has a second
level --- in EDSA near Taft ... it was originally built as a single level pedestrian
crossing ... but they built the MRT (or was it a flyover) later so they had to
build another flight of stairs ... in the middle of EDSA ... to clear the MRT/
flyover before returning to its original level. next time, i'll take a picture of
this. if we are not careful, we'll see the same thing in cebu a few years from
now ...

marxman
May 31st, 2010, 06:38 AM
you know, sometimes you don't know whether to laugh at it, or get angry.

but even if they do consult each other, there's still something lacking because
they don't do forward planning forward enough. so it ends up on flyovers
and LRT lines, and underpasses, through and left-turning, and pedestrian
crossings stacking one on top of the other such that sometimes like in the
MRT, you have to go up 4 flights of stairs just to reach the station! i mean,
how PWD-friendly can you get. i always suspected maybe this is the reason
why even if the MRT fares are lower, a number of people still prefer the EDSA
buses.

but the worst/funniest structure i always see everytime i go there (and my
heart broke each time i saw it) is a pedestrian crossing which has a second
level --- in EDSA near Taft ... it was originally built as a single level pedestrian
crossing ... but they built the MRT (or was it a flyover) later so they had to
build another flight of stairs ... in the middle of EDSA ... to clear the MRT/
flyover before returning to its original level. next time, i'll take a picture of
this. if we are not careful, we'll see the same thing in cebu a few years from
now ...

if dili m.change ang pamaagi sa ato goverment. gud luck nlng. mao dapat jud na federated nata.

nagkaguliang pman gani na sila na duol ra kaayo sila. naa ra sa metro manila. samot na kaha kung ang project is implemented hundreds of miles away sa capital.

dapat jud na since kita ang m.aapektuhan kita ang mas naay dako na say. i feel frustrated na walay mahimo ang city government on there own city coz its a national government turf. thats just plain chickenshit!

SleMarKen
May 31st, 2010, 08:06 AM
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6072/96416024.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/96416024.jpg/)

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4315/img2826copy.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/img2826copy.jpg/)

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/8305/img2832copy.jpg (http://img580.imageshack.us/i/img2832copy.jpg/)

bakasaurus
May 31st, 2010, 08:52 AM
Pagkaanindot sa mga hulagway bai! Hehe. Nice nice..

RonnieR
May 31st, 2010, 09:03 AM
^^ @ Lahug, Cebu City.. before reaching J.Y Square Mall

^^
along Gorordo Avenue. ;)

Thanks for the info....

TagaCebu
May 31st, 2010, 11:50 AM
Tax Extenders Act of 2009
There are 5 versions of Bill Number H.R.4213 for the 111th Congress
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.4213:

http://www.njnnetwork.com/njn/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Chuck-Schumer.jpg
http://uk.reuters.com/assets/print?aid=UKTRE64T1QJ20100530

Senator wants disclosure on outsourced calls
This bill will not only serve to maintain call center jobs currently in the United States, but also provide a reason for companies that have already outsourced jobs to bring them back," Senator Charles Schumer said in statement.

Customers calling 800 numbers are often transferred overseas, and in such cases the bill would mandate that callers be told where their calls were rerouted.

Companies would also be required to certify to the Federal Trade Commission annually that they were complying with the requirement, and face penalties if they did not certify.

Schumer's bill would also impose a $0.25 excise tax on any customer service call placed inside the United States which is transferred to an agent in a foreign location.

The fee would be assessed on the company that transferred the call.

bakasaurus
May 31st, 2010, 12:01 PM
Uy ang champion sa free trade galore nagkaanam og kaprotectionist economy.. Hahaha. See what recessions can do.

flesh_is_weak
May 31st, 2010, 08:47 PM
^^ ganahan ra na sila ug free-trade ug open market kung sila ang ka-bintaha :lol:

re:fly-overs and transit: nganong mga taga-Manila man ang mag-buot-buot ana nga mga project? angay ang mga Sugbuanon gyud unta, ato gud ning lugar, ug kasagaran sa gi-gasto ana kay ato man pud buhis...another reason as to why federalism/autonomy for Cebu is better

habagatcentral1
May 31st, 2010, 10:45 PM
BTW, I think some people here have heard about Noynoy's proposal of having Boy Abunda installed as the new tourism secretary. I don't know what's the implication for that in Cebu's tourism industry though.

cebuboi
May 31st, 2010, 11:06 PM
BTW, I think some people here have heard about Noynoy's proposal of having Boy Abunda installed as the new tourism secretary. I don't know what's the implication for that in Cebu's tourism industry though.


^^I even watch it in television news bai but i think boy declined the offer as what he had said he is not ready to leave showbiz daw pero mayra sad...im not under estimating boy but i do not buy the idea having him in that position...

Daizuke
June 1st, 2010, 12:35 AM
Im glad he realized that he is not capable

habagatcentral1
June 1st, 2010, 01:00 AM
He's better off with MTRCB or showbiz. It was wise of him to decide to decline Noynoy's offer.

wiljamesc1979
June 1st, 2010, 02:29 AM
-Bai, naa sa photography 101 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=662912&page=35)nga thread. The same question and a lot of inputs to learn. Basaha ang mga response ni "laquacherra".

Thank you sir rob...

betro
June 1st, 2010, 02:45 AM
BTW, I think some people here have heard about Noynoy's proposal of having Boy Abunda installed as the new tourism secretary. I don't know what's the implication for that in Cebu's tourism industry though.

Not a big deal. Besides Cebuano businessmen are the prime mover of tourism industry in Cebu they dont rely the National Government.

zidlakan
June 1st, 2010, 03:01 AM
Im glad he realized that he is not capable

give the guy (or is it allowed to say gay) a break. i heard he has a degree in
tourism. so if the search committee thinks he's capable, and he is interested
to contribute, let him try. besides i have full confidence in karina david being
in the search committee - she will try her best to ensure those appointed are
fully qualified. maybe its about time to bring glitter and the Buzz to DOT he he he :lol:

redjieredz
June 1st, 2010, 04:17 AM
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1808/panoramicviewsm.jpg

rustyboi
June 1st, 2010, 04:23 AM
Not a big deal. Besides Cebuano businessmen are the prime mover of tourism industry in Cebu they dont rely the National Government.

the Cebu businessmen are becoming innovative these days. their efforts are commendable.

as for the National Gov't, the DOT, the last time i heard, they made some announcement, something like: The Philippines will benefit from the battered Thailand due to political violence, such and such. Foreign tourists will flock to the Philippines instead.

IMO, dawat limpyo kaayo paminawn. I can't believe they would just issue statements like that. our country remains to be one of the least visited in ASEAN despite having remarkable improvement in tourism statistics for the past few years.

I spend most of my time watching National Geographic, Discovery Channel, CNN and BBC. grabe kaayo ang Malaysia, Truly Asia. mura man ug Villar campaign ads ang placement sige balik balik. every commercial break naa gyud ang Malaysia! exaggerated na siguro pero it's too many not to miss. Seoul South Korea is fast catching up in terms of airtime in several cable channels.

Can our government not afford to buy airtime rights and feature all our destinations? Festivals pa lang, dili na gyud na mahurot. hehe. so I guess we can never be on the same league as Malaysia's tourism industry noh? sayang! We need more than a Boy Abunda.

marxman
June 1st, 2010, 04:44 AM
the Cebu businessmen are becoming innovative these days. their efforts are commendable.

as for the National Gov't, the DOT, the last time i heard, they made some announcement, something like: The Philippines will benefit from the battered Thailand due to political violence, such and such. Foreign tourists will flock to the Philippines instead.

IMO, dawat limpyo kaayo paminawn. I can't believe they would just issue statements like that. our country remains to be one of the least visited in ASEAN despite having remarkable improvement in tourism statistics for the past few years.

I spend most of my time watching National Geographic, Discovery Channel, CNN and BBC. grabe kaayo ang Malaysia, Truly Asia. mura man ug Villar campaign ads ang placement sige balik balik. every commercial break naa gyud ang Malaysia! exaggerated na siguro pero it's too many not to miss. Seoul South Korea is fast catching up in terms of airtime in several cable channels.

Can our government not afford to buy airtime rights and feature all our destinations? Festivals pa lang, dili na gyud na mahurot. hehe. so I guess we can never be on the same league as Malaysia's tourism industry noh? sayang! We need more than a Boy Abunda.

Incredible india...
grabeh btw kaayo na ilang promotion. bisan diri sa edsa naa kay makit.an na ad about thailand. dako kaayo na billboard. mayta ibalik to nila ang wow philippines.

Sleepwalker
June 1st, 2010, 04:54 AM
^^Ingon sila, a picture paints a thousand words, pero sensya kaayo, wala ko camera nadala sa ako dinali-ang pag-uli sa Cebu.

Mao lang gud hinoon ni ako na-obserbahan:

1. Nindot ug presentable na gamay ang mga immigration kiosks ug ang mga immigration officer kay presentable na pud.

2. Daghan kaayo mga butang nga nag-indicate nga MCIAA is upgrading the airport terminal. Ang mga CRT displays kay wala na paandara, to give way sa digital FIDS unya.

3. Pwera buyag, daghan kaayo og U/C's within the metro, nga wala na siguro matabang sa atong mga lakawboys og document...Di gud diay lalim ang mag-lakawboys, considering nga init karon sa Cebu.

4. Daghan karsada within sa Metro Cebu ang ngitngit gud.

5. Within sa Cebu City, I counted at most 6 traffic lights nga wala na nag-operate. Kasagaran naa sa downtown.

6. Ang atong mga hotels sa Cebu nagka-improve pud ang service. Instead of competing, ila pa hinoon ka i-refer og lain hotel, in case dili ka ganahan sa ilang hotel.

7. Again, my salute to our ever sincere taxi drivers. Their sincerity never cease to amaze me. Imagine, ako bayranan kay Php55.00...Unya kay wala man siya sinsilyo sa ako Php100.00 bill, gisukli-an ko niya og Php50.00 ug siya pa nagpasalamat... :okay:...Hinaot magpadayon ni'ng kabootan sa atong mga taxi driver.

8. Ang dalan gikan sa Cebu City padulong sa Daanbantayan, pwera buyag, kahamis. Mora'g naglikas papaya. Maski ang mga foriegners who used to experience bumpy ride from Bogo to Daanbantayan, were surprised nga hamis na kaayo ang dalan. THANKS TO PGMA!

9. Nagkadaghan na pud atong mga politiko nga ganahan mosulat sa ilang pangalan sa mga public properties. Di ba, VANDALISM na? Again, I would appreciate nga sa lapida na lang na nila ibutang ilang mga pangalan... :)

10. Naa TV channel ang Cebu Province, ang SUGBO-TV. Pero, akong na-feel nga mora'g mini-version siya sa propaganda style ni Kim Jong Il, kay halos Gwen Garcia ra man imong madunggan.

11. RUMOR : Ang planong airstrip sa Daanbantayan is still alive. Naa na kuno napalit nga yuta para sa maong airstrip. Ang karaang merkado sa Daanbantayan, kay empty na. Plano ning himoong seaport para barko adto sa Bantayan Is., Malapascua ug Northern Leyte.

12. Maski sa kinatumyang bahin sa isla sa Sugbo, duna'y mga kalamboan nga nahitabo. PADAYON sa PAG-USWAG, SUGBO!!!

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
June 1st, 2010, 05:03 AM
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1808/panoramicviewsm.jpg

for me this could pass a great banner for cebu! nindot kaajo! ;)

Daizuke
June 1st, 2010, 05:03 AM
give the guy (or is it allowed to say gay) a break. i heard he has a degree in
tourism. so if the search committee thinks he's capable, and he is interested
to contribute, let him try. besides i have full confidence in karina david being
in the search committee - she will try her best to ensure those appointed are
fully qualified. maybe its about time to bring glitter and the Buzz to DOT he he he :lol:

He's an Ateneo drop out.. I admire his success stories though

RonnieR
June 1st, 2010, 05:06 AM
the Cebu businessmen are becoming innovative these days. their efforts are commendable.

as for the National Gov't, the DOT, the last time i heard, they made some announcement, something like: The Philippines will benefit from the battered Thailand due to political violence, such and such. Foreign tourists will flock to the Philippines instead.

IMO, dawat limpyo kaayo paminawn. I can't believe they would just issue statements like that. our country remains to be one of the least visited in ASEAN despite having remarkable improvement in tourism statistics for the past few years.

I spend most of my time watching National Geographic, Discovery Channel, CNN and BBC. grabe kaayo ang Malaysia, Truly Asia. mura man ug Villar campaign ads ang placement sige balik balik. every commercial break naa gyud ang Malaysia! exaggerated na siguro pero it's too many not to miss. Seoul South Korea is fast catching up in terms of airtime in several cable channels.

Can our government not afford to buy airtime rights and feature all our destinations? Festivals pa lang, dili na gyud na mahurot. hehe. so I guess we can never be on the same league as Malaysia's tourism industry noh? sayang! We need more than a Boy Abunda.

Just a brief comparison of our Tourism budget with that of Malaysia:

Philippines, DOT budget for 2010, P1.283 Billion
http://www.dbm.gov.ph/GAA2010/DOT/DOT.pdf

Malaysia, Tourism budget for 2010, RM 899 Million or P12.586 Billion. (1 RM = P14.1881999)
http://economy-update.blogspot.com/2009/10/budget-2010.html

I hope that Noynoy's administration will look on how our neighbors put so much money in this industry.

Thailand just approved their 2010 Baht 2 Trillion national budget. They said that they will have supplemental budget for tourism to avert the downturn brought about by the recent riots/crisis.

flesh_is_weak
June 1st, 2010, 07:23 AM
for me this could pass a great banner for cebu! nindot kaajo! ;)

although im not really in favor with having another Cebu banner anytime soon (i think we're over-exposed here in SSC), i must say that picture definitely looks better than the current banner :okay:

panganuron23
June 1st, 2010, 07:49 AM
Just a brief comparison of our Tourism budget with that of Malaysia:

I hope that Noynoy's administration will look on how our neighbors put so much money in this industry.

Thailand just approved their 2010 Baht 2 Trillion national budget. They said that they will have supplemental budget for tourism to avert the downturn brought about by the recent riots/crisis.

i'm impressed with our neighboring ASEAN countries, especially Thailand, they are really giving tourism a big budget. I just hope that the next administration has a concrete plan to boost the country's tourism.

Speaking of tourism, congratulations sa CEBU for being consistent as the country's leading tourism destination. I just hope na our city will also follow Cebu's tourism strategies. KUDOS.

SleMarKen
June 1st, 2010, 11:12 AM
^^they're already on top but they're still investing more in torism... bout us, di pa tayo naka 1/4 but then kulelat pa gyud atong budget...:ohno: They just don't know how tourism can give benefit and livelihood to our poor countrymen even if uneducated pa, maka kwarta sa turismo...

the Cebu businessmen are becoming innovative these days. their efforts are commendable.

as for the National Gov't, the DOT, the last time i heard, they made some announcement, something like: The Philippines will benefit from the battered Thailand due to political violence, such and such. Foreign tourists will flock to the Philippines instead.

IMO, dawat limpyo kaayo paminawn. I can't believe they would just issue statements like that. our country remains to be one of the least visited in ASEAN despite having remarkable improvement in tourism statistics for the past few years.

I spend most of my time watching National Geographic, Discovery Channel, CNN and BBC. grabe kaayo ang Malaysia, Truly Asia. mura man ug Villar campaign ads ang placement sige balik balik. every commercial break naa gyud ang Malaysia! exaggerated na siguro pero it's too many not to miss. Seoul South Korea is fast catching up in terms of airtime in several cable channels.

Can our government not afford to buy airtime rights and feature all our destinations? Festivals pa lang, dili na gyud na mahurot. hehe. so I guess we can never be on the same league as Malaysia's tourism industry noh? sayang! We need more than a Boy Abunda.

And to think ang effort nila sa pag pang limyo sa ilang palibot dili kaayo nila priority... dako lang gyud kaayong bira ang advertisment. As of the 1st quarter of 2010, nisaka ang pwesto sa malaysia as the 2nd top tourist destinationwa tibuok Asia and the top tourist destinationsa SEA. From 18million 2008 to 21million 2009 and is expected to reach 23 million this yeaar...

Tungod sa kagubot sa Thailand, daghan gyud nidivert sa ilang plano, guess kung asa sila ni divert? Sa Malaysia, Singapore and Vietnam :lol:...



7. Again, my salute to our ever sincere taxi drivers. Their sincerity never cease to amaze me. Imagine, ako bayranan kay Php55.00...Unya kay wala man siya sinsilyo sa ako Php100.00 bill, gisukli-an ko niya og Php50.00 ug siya pa nagpasalamat... :okay:...Hinaot magpadayon ni'ng kabootan sa atong mga taxi driver.



Maka miss gyud ang taxi drivers diha sa Sugbo... Di gyud sila mangingilad... naay uban pero majority dili unlike sa mga ciudad nga naadtuan nako nga naka experience gyud kog pagpanamas tamas. Pareha ra gyud ka maldito ang mga taxi drivers sa manila, taipei og kl... Sa georgetown nuon, katunga mga yawa, katunga ,mga maayo...

Jarenz
June 1st, 2010, 11:51 AM
Not a big deal. Besides Cebuano businessmen are the prime mover of tourism industry in Cebu they dont rely the National Government.

Correct:okay:

Jarenz
June 1st, 2010, 12:03 PM
SM Update:


http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/djxd2/updates/sm1.jpg


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SleMarKen
June 1st, 2010, 12:07 PM
^^gi tangtang ang led screen?

betro
June 1st, 2010, 12:08 PM
^^gi tangtang ang led screen?

Gi repair.:)

rustyboi
June 1st, 2010, 12:10 PM
Crimson Resort and Spa
by rustyboi (http://www.flickr.com/photos/restymail/sets/72157624180008560/)
May 29-30, 2010

Part 1
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kenken94
June 1st, 2010, 12:35 PM
^^they're already on top but they're still investing more in torism... bout us, di pa tayo naka 1/4 but then kulelat pa gyud atong budget...:ohno: They just don't know how tourism can give benefit and livelihood to our poor countrymen even if uneducated pa, maka kwarta sa turismo...



And to think ang effort nila sa pag pang limyo sa ilang palibot dili kaayo nila priority... dako lang gyud kaayong bira ang advertisment. As of the 1st quarter of 2010, nisaka ang pwesto sa malaysia as the 2nd top tourist destinationwa tibuok Asia and the top tourist destinationsa SEA. From 18million 2008 to 21million 2009 and is expected to reach 23 million this yeaar...

Tungod sa kagubot sa Thailand, daghan gyud nidivert sa ilang plano, guess kung asa sila ni divert? Sa Malaysia, Singapore and Vietnam :lol:...




Maka miss gyud ang taxi drivers diha sa Sugbo... Di gyud sila mangingilad... naay uban pero majority dili unlike sa mga ciudad nga naadtuan nako nga naka experience gyud kog pagpanamas tamas. Pareha ra gyud ka maldito ang mga taxi drivers sa manila, taipei og kl... Sa georgetown nuon, katunga mga yawa, katunga ,mga maayo...

Don't get loomy right there pal............. :) The Philippines is full of unexplored wonders, we can't underestimate the big potential of this fine country. We need to be positive to also affect the mood of our fellows and believe on the incoming Administration. Whoever sits on the DOT won't really have any effect on Cebu's tourism since tourists don't come to Cebu looking for him, they're here because they love the place and the leisure it provides. We have all it needs, we're and international gateway and has the second most important City in the Philippines. Cebu has survived alone even before Gloria came to power or ERAP was ousted. We were already given with the right ammenities and there should be little worry.:cheers:

bakasaurus
June 1st, 2010, 01:21 PM
Don't get loomy right there pal............. :) The Philippines is full of unexplored wonders, we can't underestimate the big potential of this fine country. We need to be positive to also affect the mood of our fellows and believe on the incoming Administration. Whoever sits on the DOT won't really have any effect on Cebu's tourism since tourists don't come to Cebu looking for him, they're here because they love the place and the leisure it provides. We have all it needs, we're and international gateway and has the second most important City in the Philippines. Cebu has survived alone even before Gloria came to power or ERAP was ousted. We were already given with the right ammenities and there should be little worry.:cheers:

I think you misunderstood him Dong Ken. Slerz is not gloomy about Cebu itself, but just frustrated at our meager budget when it comes to advertising our country in media such as cable tv channels where Malaysia has been very successful. Kung naay makacompare sa atoang sites VS Malaysia, then si Slerz na na. Haha. And he never said Malaysia's sites are more beautiful than ours. I remember even a Malaysian writer himself (for a Malaysian paper) admitted that the beauty of the Visayas can easily rival their island destinations.

rustyboi
June 1st, 2010, 01:40 PM
Crimson Resort and Spa - Seascapes Town
by rustyboi (http://www.flickr.com/photos/restymail/sets/72157624180008560/)
May 29-30, 2010

Part 2
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kenken94
June 1st, 2010, 03:23 PM
I think you misunderstood him Dong Ken. Slerz is not gloomy about Cebu itself, but just frustrated at our meager budget when it comes to advertising our country in media such as cable tv channels where Malaysia has been very successful. Kung naay makacompare sa atoang sites VS Malaysia, then si Slerz na na. Haha. And he never said Malaysia's sites are more beautiful than ours. I remember even a Malaysian writer himself (for a Malaysian paper) admitted that the beauty of the Visayas can easily rival their island destinations.

We have 11 Million fellows scattered across the globe including him who's in Malaysia.......... the Government could tap onto them for help but still tourism has the greatest potential amongst the growth sectors. We can also advertise the Philippines to the right market not much globally like what they're doing since our budget is the limit. Though, I prefer a hike in the Tourism budget, but where should they make the covering cut? Education? Welfare? We have already problems with the large budget deficit for 2010. This will be a tough decision for the Gov't.

ashton
June 1st, 2010, 05:40 PM
^ Crimson is looking great! Thanks for the pictures bro. :)

leylander
June 1st, 2010, 06:31 PM
TOP 10 REGISTERED ELECTRICAL ENGINEER BOARD EXAM MAY 2010 Nationwide Result:

#3 JEY YBURAN DE LOS REYES CEBU INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY 87.00
#5 JAN MIKHAIL DE GUZMAN VILLARINO CEBU INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY 86.45
#7 RONNEL JHON BACUS BUSTAMANTE CEBU INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY 86.05

leylander
June 1st, 2010, 06:38 PM
Top 10 REGISTERED MASTER ELECTRICIAN ENGINEER BOARD EXAM MAY 2010 Nationwide Result:

#8 JESTONI PAGUICAN TAN CEBU STATE COLLEGE OF SCIENCE 83.50

zidlakan
June 2nd, 2010, 12:46 AM
the Cebu businessmen are becoming innovative these days. their efforts are commendable.

as for the National Gov't, the DOT, the last time i heard, they made some announcement, something like: The Philippines will benefit from the battered Thailand due to political violence, such and such. Foreign tourists will flock to the Philippines instead.

IMO, dawat limpyo kaayo paminawn. I can't believe they would just issue statements like that. our country remains to be one of the least visited in ASEAN despite having remarkable improvement in tourism statistics for the past few years.

I spend most of my time watching National Geographic, Discovery Channel, CNN and BBC. grabe kaayo ang Malaysia, Truly Asia. mura man ug Villar campaign ads ang placement sige balik balik. every commercial break naa gyud ang Malaysia! exaggerated na siguro pero it's too many not to miss. Seoul South Korea is fast catching up in terms of airtime in several cable channels.

Can our government not afford to buy airtime rights and feature all our destinations? Festivals pa lang, dili na gyud na mahurot. hehe. so I guess we can never be on the same league as Malaysia's tourism industry noh? sayang! We need more than a Boy Abunda.

mura man ug gloating on the miseries of others. in fairness to thailand, they
had suffered one of the worst chapters in their history. but they still managed
to complete and open their Banhkok BRT!

see some of the images at the BRT thread at the Transport and Infrastructure
section. naglaway ko sa lamai! http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1054463&page=11

SleMarKen
June 2nd, 2010, 03:09 AM
Congrats CIT... CIT tops again :okay:



Nice ang banner karon, MY city, MY life...hahahaha

SleMarKen
June 2nd, 2010, 05:14 AM
The Proposed Mambaling Flyover:

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3280/26293373245992736322238.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/26293373245992736322238.jpg/)

Henz
June 2nd, 2010, 05:15 AM
Bitaw.. Georgetown ang banner karon..... Slerz City......... hehehehe

Henz
June 2nd, 2010, 05:16 AM
The Proposed Mambaling Flyover:

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3280/26293373245992736322238.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/26293373245992736322238.jpg/)


hahahaha........ nice.. segurado jud mo fly - over ang mga sakyanan ani..

Mao ni tinood na flyover..........:lol::lol::lol:

SleMarKen
June 2nd, 2010, 05:20 AM
Don't get loomy right there pal............. :) The Philippines is full of unexplored wonders, we can't underestimate the big potential of this fine country. We need to be positive to also affect the mood of our fellows and believe on the incoming Administration. Whoever sits on the DOT won't really have any effect on Cebu's tourism since tourists don't come to Cebu looking for him, they're here because they love the place and the leisure it provides. We have all it needs, we're and international gateway and has the second most important City in the Philippines. Cebu has survived alone even before Gloria came to power or ERAP was ousted. We were already given with the right ammenities and there should be little worry.:cheers:

yup, I'm being positive here... I'm sorry but I just can't stop comparing Phils and Msia or Cebu and Penang about tourism... I know nga we have less budget than msia but we had the WoW Phils advertisments before in CNN, Discovery etc but why now we can't anymore, murag pareha raman tingali ang budget sa tourism before and now...
@ baka is right, I'm different from other OFWs... one of the reason why I decided to work here is bec I want to experience and discover the place, kalog kaayo nga rason nga I went here to be a tourist 1st, 2nd only ang work:D inborn laagan ba...:D
Daghan kaayo kong pangutana pag abot nako diri, local and tourists kung ngano daghan kaayog turista diri, unsay rason nganong gi pili nila ang msia sa ilang vcation. Curious kaayo ko nganong daghan ila nya gamay ra ato mao nga akong gi adto tong giingon nilang nindot diri pero sa akong assessment, mas taas ang standard sa atong attractions diha kaysa diri, dili sa ingon nga bias pero kay ako man gisuwayan. Sa pagka tinuod lang, hugaw kaayo ang emsia labi na sa ilang pagkaon og mga taw specially indian msians, manimaho gyung bombay, mga chinese msians kay grabe kaayog mga anghit, kasukaon lang ko perme sa bus... nagkatag lang sagbot sa dan, di kahibaw manilhig ang mga taw. Mga taw diri taga bukid pa kaayong pangitsura... sory pero ako lang gisulti ang tinuod...lol...
So what I mean is, kung nindot kaayo ng pinas or ang sugbo, kung dili nila mahibaw an nga naa diay nang cebu island nga mas nindot pa sa ilang islands, di gyud sila mo anha kay wa man sila kahibaw nga ni exist ba diay nang gihinganlag Cebu. So sa akong conclusion gyud nganong successful sila sa tourism industry is because of their massive advertising sa Int'l tv channels like cnn, discovery etc...

I know nga dako gyud kaayo tag potential, pero kanang potential kinahanglan apilan sad na og kakugi og informations about our place...



I think you misunderstood him Dong Ken. Slerz is not gloomy about Cebu itself, but just frustrated at our meager budget when it comes to advertising our country in media such as cable tv channels where Malaysia has been very successful. Kung naay makacompare sa atoang sites VS Malaysia, then si Slerz na na. Haha. And he never said Malaysia's sites are more beautiful than ours. I remember even a Malaysian writer himself (for a Malaysian paper) admitted that the beauty of the Visayas can easily rival their island destinations.

right bai... wa siya kabasa sa akong mga comments about my frustrations about this place...

Ang unique lang sad gyud diri kay melting pot of three major Asian races specially diri sa Penang mao nga GT is a Unesco World HERITAGE city. The Indians, Chinese and Malay/Indo races, not only the people but also their festivals. Naay Chinese festival, naay Indian festival og Malay festival all equally big fiestas. You can find here Churches, Temples, Mandirs and Mosques. There's a little India here nga kung mo adto ka kay mura gyud og tua ka sa India and ofcourse chinatown...

So in short, Kung mo ari ka, mura nasad kag naka adto sa tibuok Asia. Asia in one package... a tour of Asia in one destination....
apil na ana ang baho sa bombay og ang anghit sa chinese sa package... truly bombay and truly chinese anght... meaning wala sila nagpa haron ingnon ba... they show their natural cultures nga maoy ganahan sa mga turista...
kung ma capture pa sa camera ang baho, sus daghan na kaayog nagpa picture nga turista...lol

Daizuke
June 2nd, 2010, 05:24 AM
Tom: Ace failed Cebu as Tourism secretary

Source (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=580642&publicationSubCategoryId=107)


Maayo ra pud na ilisdan si Ace oi, for me he is too passive. so far wla man kau sya prominent effort as a DOT secretary, msking sa marketing side wlay ayo. Kolelat hapun ang tourism sa pinas esp. sa Cebu.. Maayo paman tong panahon ni Dick Gordon, at least naay Wow! Philippines tourism ads sa mga cable channels... Karun wla na jud.. Cge lng Truly Asia og Amazing Thailand... Gkapoy nkog paminaw sa ilang ads.. ang Cebu ntawn ngka depreciate ang tourist influx mau nlng jud strong hapun tungud sa kogihan nga mga Sugbuanon, dli maghuwat og help sa national government..

We need to have a very bullish DOT secretary, one that would truly implement a strong marketing drive for Philippine tourism esp. to those top tourist destinations like Cebu.. It is so baffling to me when some of the world's top destinations cant even match the richness of our spots yet they rated high in some travel magazines. Just so unfair!

Henz
June 2nd, 2010, 05:42 AM
Bitaw.... i am thinking gani...... na why not the Cebu local governments ang mo initiate ug marketing efforts..

I believe this is a worthy investment which can translate thousands of jobs and a stable economy in the long run.

Sleepwalker
June 2nd, 2010, 05:48 AM
^^Reminds me of "CEBU : Island in the Pacific" promotion. Ang uban turista, nagtoo hinoon nga ang Cebu dili sakop sa Pinas...Hehehehhe

Henz
June 2nd, 2010, 06:29 AM
correct......... its actually a brilliant idea of Lito Osmena........
na well known gud ug maayo ang Cebu ato.... but it was not sustained.

I hope the provincial government will take time to study it.. instead of that Suroy Suroy where it has not impacted so much in the tourism industry of Cebu.. Morag gigamit rag vehicle ni Gov. Gwen pasundayag sa iyang ka _gat......

Ejames
June 2nd, 2010, 07:37 AM
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AmbutLang
June 2nd, 2010, 07:58 AM
correct......... its actually a brilliant idea of Lito Osmena........
na well known gud ug maayo ang Cebu ato.... but it was not sustained.

I hope the provincial government will take time to study it.. instead of that Suroy Suroy where it has not impacted so much in the tourism industry of Cebu.. Morag gigamit rag vehicle ni Gov. Gwen pasundayag sa iyang ka _gat......

Pretext langto niya aron mangumpanya unya ang nigasto ang people's money. Alkansi gud to nga klaro kaayo nga events. :nuts: :ohno:

rustyboi
June 2nd, 2010, 08:13 AM
Crimson Resort and Spa - Seascapes Town
by rustyboi (http://www.flickr.com/photos/restymail/sets/72157624180008560/)
May 29-30, 2010

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hakz2007
June 2nd, 2010, 09:54 AM
Cebu City corridor expects gridlock with construction of P200-million overpass METRO Cebu’s southern corridor is bracing for snarled traffic for months with the construction of an overpass in the busy Mambaling intersection.

The City Traffic Operations Management is already warning motorists of traffic in the south, as school days usually increase traffic volume by 60 percent, according to executive officer Arnel Tancingco.

“The challenge now is how to optimize the alternative routes and minimize the congestion,” Tancingco said.

The P200-million overpass will be built along N. Bacalso Avenue, the main north-south arterial road in Metro Cebu.

Construction could take almost a year. The contractor promised not to close the entire four-lane highway, leaving the outer two lanes passable to traffic connecting the city’s central business district to the heavily populated southern districts.

The project is funded by the Priority Development Assistance Fund of outgoing Rep. Antonio Cuenco.

Although there are alternative roads like the Cebu South Coastal Road and the Katipunan-Banawa-Escario Road, Tancingco admitted these access roads present challenges. The exit of the coastal road near city hall is bogged down by street vendors, while the other access road is blocked by tricycles, smaller vehicles and pedestrians.

The subway of the coastal road is also not viable without an operating ventilation shafts and safety provisions.

“Smoke impedes traffic movement, and visibility inside the subway is very low at night. This has prevented us from asking the Department of Public Works and Highways to open the subway in time for the construction of the subway,” Tancingco said.

Punta Princesa barangay captain Rodolfo Diorico, whose village is expected to bear the brunt of the traffic, said his traffic enforcers will now be on 24-hour shifts, and road obstacles like vendors and jeepneys will be cleared.

“We are urging the public to cooperate,” he said.  http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25921:cebu-city-corridor-expects-gridlock-with-construction-of-p200-million-overpass&catid=45:regions&Itemid=71

Jarenz
June 2nd, 2010, 09:54 AM
^^gi tangtang ang led screen?

Gi replace with a new one kay daghan busted. . .

Crimson Resort and Spa
by rustyboi (http://www.flickr.com/photos/restymail/sets/72157624180008560/)
May 29-30, 2010

Part 1

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Crimson Resort and Spa - Seascapes Town
by rustyboi (http://www.flickr.com/photos/restymail/sets/72157624180008560/)
May 29-30, 2010

Part 3
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cool :cool:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
June 2nd, 2010, 10:01 AM
^^
villar na sad diay ka @jar?! :lol::D

zubuwood
June 2nd, 2010, 10:02 AM
FUENTE OSMENA .. :lol:
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mAiNsTrEaMhunter
June 2nd, 2010, 10:10 AM
^^
jakarta man ni sa?! :lol::lol:

soon sir! soon! :D

habagatcentral1
June 2nd, 2010, 10:23 AM
Just received a text message from Lord Carnal (Arnold). He said that the new owner of Philippine Airlines is now Manny Osmeña of Cebu Hilton. I dunno if this has been confirmed.

zubuwood
June 2nd, 2010, 10:28 AM
mao unta, paspasan nalang nato ang paglambo sa SUGBO og sa tibuok nasod...

SleMarKen
June 2nd, 2010, 10:50 AM
Just received a text message from Lord Carnal (Arnold). He said that the new owner of Philippine Airlines is now Gary Osmeña of Cebu Hilton. I dunno if this has been confirmed.

Not Gary but Manny Osmeña of Cebu Hilton. If this is true, then RP's largest carriers are now owned by Cebuanos! :okay:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
June 2nd, 2010, 10:56 AM
^^
nice! so kita pud maghimo og SSC plane! :lol::nuts:

weewit
June 2nd, 2010, 11:31 AM
haaaaay... bye summer!!!! :)

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wildfrangipani
June 2nd, 2010, 11:36 AM
give the guy (or is it allowed to say gay) a break. i heard he has a degree in
tourism. so if the search committee thinks he's capable, and he is interested
to contribute, let him try. besides i have full confidence in karina david being
in the search committee - she will try her best to ensure those appointed are
fully qualified. maybe its about time to bring glitter and the Buzz to DOT he he he :lol:



he even got his master's degree ahead of his undergrad hahahaha!

habagatcentral1
June 2nd, 2010, 12:17 PM
he even got his master's degree ahead of his undergrad hahahaha!
Hala! Pwede na?! :eek:

Henz
June 2nd, 2010, 05:31 PM
Just received a text message from Lord Carnal (Arnold). He said that the new owner of Philippine Airlines is now Manny Osmeña of Cebu Hilton. I dunno if this has been confirmed.

Not Gary but Manny Osmeña of Cebu Hilton. If this is true, then RP's largest carriers are now owned by Cebuanos! :okay:


I dont think Manny Osmena is that rich to buy Philippine Airlines... I believe its not true.:)

MatudNilaBaby
June 2nd, 2010, 05:43 PM
I dont think Manny Osmena is that rich to buy Philippine Airlines... I believe its not true.:)

he's goin to paint philippine airlines pink just like the hilton:lol::lol::lol:

MatudNilaBaby
June 2nd, 2010, 06:42 PM
usapa na ang comment ni tomas about the new mayor elect. maayo gani wala niya i-mention ang pagsige ug hikap sa dunggan ilong while giving a speech. lol

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TO strengthen his leadership and to avoid being misinterpreted by the public, outgoing Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña yesterday advised his successor Vice Mayor Michael Rama to sharpen his communication skills.

Good communication skills, he said, will also help Rama manage the City Government effectively.

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The mayor is worried that Rama will be misinterpreted by the media and City Hall officials and employees, which could affect the implementation of the different programs and projects of the City.

Osmeña gave the advice during the 888 News Forum held at the Marco Polo Plaza yesterday morning, where he was asked to comment on Rama’s statement that he will opt not to renew the contracts of casual city officials and employees who openly attacked him during the campaign.

“Actually, I don’t think he said that. Naa’y usa ka problema ang atong incoming mayor. Usahay he is not very clear sa iyang communication skills and iyang statements. Muhatag siya ug storya unya magtuyok-tuyok lang siya unya ig abot sa katapusan, ang mga tawo wala nakasabot sa iyang gisulti, ug unsa ang iyang punto. He says ang uban iyang taktakon, and also he would not change anything, unsa man na?” he said.

Osmeña is worried that Rama’s instructions would not be followed properly if he does not communicate clearly, which could affect his leadership.

“One of the important qualities of a manager is to be very clear (in what he says) so that people don’t try to read between the lines. Kung walay klaro ang imong punto or tuyo, dili ka makamanage ug tarong kay ang mga tawo mismo maglabad ang ilang ulo kay wala sila nakasabot (If you don’t relay your point well, you can’t manage the City well because the people would be confused). Especially if you make hard decisions, people will think he will change his mind so dili sila musunod sa implementation.

These are some of the skills that he will have to sharpen,” he continued.

In an interview at City Hall yesterday afternoon, Rama said the mayor’s advice is well taken, but he is standing pat on his statement that he would not renew the contracts of those who campaigned against him, especially those who maligned his reputation by calling him a drug lord and gambling lord protector.

He told reporters it would be difficult to have trust and confidence in someone who attacked his character in public, so he does not see any reason to renew their appointments when his term as mayor starts on June 30.

“I will have a three-month trial period, but ako ba diay gihapon i-trial nga kahibaw ko na nakigkontra nako? Unsa may trust and confidence na madevelop nako ana, so why will I have to hire?... Si Mike Rama nagbuhat ra sa sakto. It’s an issue of trust and confidence,” he explained.

Rama said he also does not know why the mayor would insinuate he was misinterpreted because he meant what he said during the flag ceremony last week, where he made the warning of not hiring his critics.

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He said, though, he will seek proof of reports reaching him that some of the city employees attacked him during the campaign activities of the opposition party.

On the need to sharpen his communication skills, he said he has been directly answering questions of the reporters covering City Hall.

He said only questions on matters that are beyond his responsibility and knowledge are the ones he chooses not to answer.

When a reporter asked him what he thought of the mayor’s advice, Rama replied: “Any advice is well taken, no problem with that. See, I am now answering your question directly?”

Meanwhile, Osmeña has also been getting advice on legislative matters from his predecessor Rep. Antonio Cuenco (Cebu City, south district).

Osmeña, who had served as mayor of the city for 15 years, said he asked Cuenco for some housekeeping tips.

The mayor also hired Cuenco’s chief of staff Noreen Gonzaga.

Cuenco said he personally recommended Gonzaga to Osmeña so she can help the neophyte congressman in Congress.

The outgoing congressman also suggested some bills to Osmeña.

One is to translate to Cebuano the English warning in all herbal product labels that reads “No therapeutic claims.”

“Sagad man gud sa mga herbal products dinhi gipamaligya sa Kabisay-an ug Mindanao, so, kinahanglang masayran gyud ang warning ilabina sa kabus nga kanang mga herbal products dili na makaayo sa bisan unsang sakit (Most of these products are sold in the Visayas and Mindanao so the public, especially the poor, need to know the warning that herbal products cannot cure any illness),” Cuenco said.

He said Osmeña seemed to like his idea and might introduce the proposal in the 15th Congress.

Earlier, Osmeña asked Cebuanos to give him six months to adjust and familiarize himself with his new role as a congressman.

Osmeña said he does not expect to head any House committee and he would not vie for any.

Jonathan Guardo, who ran but lost to Osmeña in the elections, earlier said he will keep an eye on Osmeña’s performance in Congress.

He is hoping, though, the congressman-elect can meet the expectations of the people, especially those who voted for him.

Meanwhile, Osmeña, during the forum yesterday, said sustaining the P4,000 annual financial assistance to senior citizens is a big challenge for Rama’s administration, considering the influx to the city of senior citizens from the province.

He said the City has the money to sustain the program, but problems will be encountered when the number of senior citizens in the city increases dramatically.

Rama said he will ask the city councilors and department heads to come up with a set of guidelines to make sure the City’s program for the elderly is not abused.

Osmeña suggested only those who were registered as voters in the 2007 elections, and those who just turned 60 but have been residing in the city long before the financial assistance was implemented, should be allowed to avail themselves of the aid.


Published in the Sun.Star Cebu newspaper on June 2, 2010.

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AmbutLang
June 2nd, 2010, 07:17 PM
he's goin to paint philippine airlines pink just like the hilton:lol::lol::lol:

Dili pink oi, pastel colors. :nuts: :lol:

Jimbu
June 2nd, 2010, 09:25 PM
Cebu-Cordova bridge not feasible — Osmeña (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/260290/cebucordova-bridge-not-feasible-osme-a)
By MARS W. MOSQUEDA JR.
June 2, 2010, 5:13pm

CORDOVA, Cebu – This town’s dream of being connected directly with Cebu City through a bridge is getting more difficult to be realized as Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña said he will not support such a project.

“You will have to close the port because no vessel can get under the bridge,” said Osmeña, adding that the height of the bridge will make it impossible for vessels to sail through.

The proposed Cebu-Cordova bridge was first revealed by Cordova Mayor Adelino Sitoy, who said earlier that President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had asked the Philippine Reclamation Authority twice already about the status of the proposed bridge that will cut travel time between Cebu City and Cordova town and vice versa.

Currently, Cordova residents pass through Lapu-Lapu City and take the bridge that links Mactan and Mandaue City and then travel at least 30 minutes to reach Cebu City.

With the bridge, Sitoy said travel time will be reduced to just a few minutes.

The proposed bridge, with budget costs yet to be released, will take the South Road Properties in Cebu City and land in Shell Island, Cordova. The municipal government of Cordova has already planned to construct a skyway that will bring travelers from Cebu City to the Mactan International Airport without passing through Lapu-Lapu City.

But Osmeña said building the bridge will not be feasible as it will affect the flow of sea transport in the area. Instead of building the bridge, Osmeña said they can build ferry terminals and open ferry operations to and from Cordova.

“It will be very expensive to build the bridge because it will have to be very high to allow big vessels to pass through. The best way would be through a ferry boat that will sail the Cebu-Cordova-Cebu route,” Osmeña said.

Sitoy could not be reached for comment on the matter as of press time Wednesday.

flesh_is_weak
June 2nd, 2010, 09:47 PM
^^tunnel diay? :lol:

or what if ibalhin ang pier sa Cordova? or what if sa Talisay? mag-construct ug artificial harbor didto...

or what if duha-on ang pier, usa sa proposed reclamation sa Lapu-Lapu for vessels travelling north of Cebu island, nya usa sa Talisay for vessels travelling south...

either way, ma-abli ang atong harbourfront for development :)

MatudNilaBaby
June 2nd, 2010, 09:51 PM
Cebu-Cordova bridge not feasible — Osmeña (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/260290/cebucordova-bridge-not-feasible-osme-a)
By MARS W. MOSQUEDA JR.
June 2, 2010, 5:13pm

CORDOVA, Cebu – This town’s dream of being connected directly with Cebu City through a bridge is getting more difficult to be realized as Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña said he will not support such a project.

“You will have to close the port because no vessel can get under the bridge,” said Osmeña, adding that the height of the bridge will make it impossible for vessels to sail through.

The proposed Cebu-Cordova bridge was first revealed by Cordova Mayor Adelino Sitoy, who said earlier that President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had asked the Philippine Reclamation Authority twice already about the status of the proposed bridge that will cut travel time between Cebu City and Cordova town and vice versa.

Currently, Cordova residents pass through Lapu-Lapu City and take the bridge that links Mactan and Mandaue City and then travel at least 30 minutes to reach Cebu City.

With the bridge, Sitoy said travel time will be reduced to just a few minutes.

The proposed bridge, with budget costs yet to be released, will take the South Road Properties in Cebu City and land in Shell Island, Cordova. The municipal government of Cordova has already planned to construct a skyway that will bring travelers from Cebu City to the Mactan International Airport without passing through Lapu-Lapu City.

But Osmeña said building the bridge will not be feasible as it will affect the flow of sea transport in the area. Instead of building the bridge, Osmeña said they can build ferry terminals and open ferry operations to and from Cordova.

“It will be very expensive to build the bridge because it will have to be very high to allow big vessels to pass through. The best way would be through a ferry boat that will sail the Cebu-Cordova-Cebu route,” Osmeña said.

Sitoy could not be reached for comment on the matter as of press time Wednesday.

if they will build a bridge similar to the cansaga bridge then there's no big vessels can sail through the mactan channel but if the height is comparable or taller than the mactan I and II bridges big cargo vessels can go through it.

mora ug ni sour ang tuno ni tomas karong bag-o.:ohno::ohno::ohno:

AmbutLang
June 2nd, 2010, 11:24 PM
Kung maghimo sila bridge between Cordova and Cebu City, kinahanglan ang height pareho sa NYC Verrazano Bridge, aron maka agi ang Aircraft Carrier sa US, Container Tranport ships, Super Oiltanker size or QE2 cruise sizes ships.

A draw bridge, another type of bridge aron ang mast sa barko naay dakong/unlimited clearance.

MatudNilaBaby
June 3rd, 2010, 12:34 AM
Kung maghimo sila bridge between Cordova and Cebu City, kinahanglan ang height pareho sa NYC Verrazano Bridge, aron maka agi ang Aircraft Carrier sa US, Container Tranport ships, Super Oiltanker size or QE2 cruise sizes ships.

A draw bridge, another type of bridge aron ang mast sa barko naay dakong/unlimited clearance.

masangad man aircraft carrier dinha tingali sa mactan channel. mora ug mid-size passenger ug cargo vessels ra ang maka-agi dinha. bisan nalang siguro mga luxury ships pero kanang super oiltanker adto lang na sa luyo paagia kay kuyaw kaayo nag mabuslot sa sangad. basin ug segunda sa oil spill sa exxon valdez in alaska or diba ang latest oil spill sa louisiana. at taas2x na gyud ang height kay tag-as naman sab ang mga barko karon. the tallest luxury ship didto sa florida is about 18 storeys high.

pila kahay height anang mactan bridges?

zidlakan
June 3rd, 2010, 01:24 AM
^^ he he he (or is it je je je)

wala na ni sour si tomas oi, dugay na na namo gi istoryahan, 1991 pa when the
2ns bridge was planned/designed. katong gi ingon ni gullas nga siya kuno nag
plano sa 2nd bridge half-truth to kay ang 2nd bridge nga gi drawing sa MCLUTS
which was made when gullas was governor, didto to gi propose sa Plan 4 option
of MCLUTS which was disapproved by Gullas at that time (1981), cause they
approved Plan 2 which did not include the 2nd bridge. incidentally, that planned
2nd bridge in 1981 run straight from Jones Ave (now Osmeña Blvd), cross to
shell island, then to cordova. ill try to scan the plans later if i can. that was
just a schematic drawing and not really engineering plans.

when we started working on the 2nd bridge in 1991, 4 sites were proposed - the
initial alignment of MCLUTS Plan 4, one from NRA to lapulapu, one beside the 1st
bridge (the one approved and constructed), and the last one farther away
crossing to MEPZ. the main consideration were height requirements and the
effect on the international port. the cebu-shell-island-cordova was rejected
outright because it will close the international port to substantial traffic which
is bad for the cebu economy. as it is now, even the 1st and 2nd bridges has
actually caused cebu-manila ships to sail a farther distance (and hence to
cost more) since they will have to go around the island.

what are other possibilities? transfer the piers one in the north of mactan and
one in the south? possible, engineering wise - but 1) more costly, and 2) will
eliminate the harbor protection of mactan channel and expose the port to
adverse weather.

draw bridge? possible also. but at what cost? maybe, fred, can you try to
find some data on drawbridges cost over there? what i know is that they
cost so expensive it might not be economical.

raise the height of the bridge. well, try to use pencil and paper and draw it.
i've tried it in 1992 and came up with a bridge which starts to climb the
approach near capitol in order to reach a height sufficient enough to allow
international shipping to cross. no, its not practically possible. and it certainly
will cost more.

the option we were tinkering with for a long time now, ... just waiting till such
time the trip demand would make it feasible, is to simply provide ferry service
from the mainland to shell island or that island behind it (i forgot the name),
then build a land bridge between shell and mainland cordova. that part there
is so shallow it sometimes is above water at low tide. certainly its much
cheaper to build a land bridge. i'll also try to show the previous satellite
image i had before where the alignment was drawn. if i recall right, i have not
discussed this with ade sitoy. but i have discussed this with mayor arleigh
sitoy before.

as you can see, actually, tommy osmeña is not shooting from the hips. he was
chairman of the RDC when the 2nd bridge was planned and sat with us in the
planning committee. he certainly is aware of the planning issues involved.

zidlakan
June 3rd, 2010, 01:30 AM
masangad man aircraft carrier dinha tingali sa mactan channel. mora ug mid-size passenger ug cargo vessels ra ang maka-agi dinha. bisan nalang siguro mga luxury ships pero kanang super oiltanker adto lang na sa luyo paagia kay kuyaw kaayo nag mabuslot sa sangad. basin ug segunda sa oil spill sa exxon valdez in alaska or diba ang latest oil spill sa louisiana. at taas2x na gyud ang height kay tag-as naman sab ang mga barko karon. the tallest luxury ship didto sa florida is about 18 storeys high.

pila kahay height anang mactan bridges?

you're absolutely right - contraints are above and below. actually, that narrow
channel between shell island and city hall is the deepest part of the mactan
channel but of course that's not the determining depth - the shallowest depth
is the one that governs and limits.

flesh_is_weak
June 3rd, 2010, 02:05 AM
sir paul, yeah, i remember hearing that from you in person one time before...lingawa noh, a bridge from the Capitol area :lol: ma-usab gyud pag-ayo ang skyline sa Cebu :lol:

pila kahay gasto if bridge/causeway-tunnel complex ang tukuron instead of the ferry-bridge/causeway proposal? nya makaya ra ba if ever? :)

what if sa Talisay (or should i say, Talisay Ward/District/Borough :lol: of an amalgamated Metro Cebu) ibalhin ang tibuok pier sa Cebu? buhatan lang ug artificial harbor? di ba nindot man pud para ma-redevelop nato ang harborfront sa Cebu City, parehas na pud sa SRP na naay tourist facilities etc.

zidlakan
June 3rd, 2010, 02:24 AM
pila kahay height anang mactan bridges?

Restrictions

Foreign Ships are not allowed to pass the North Channel, due to the bridge between Mandaue and Opon. However, ships of 24.38 m. vertical height from MLW and length of 91.44m. may pass with utmost care.
Draft limitation of 12.19 m. for Cebu Channel while port established berthing spaces vary from 3.05 – 9.14 m.


source: http://www.cpa.gov.ph/portinfo_harbor.html

sir paul, yeah, i remember hearing that from you in person one time before...lingawa noh, a bridge from the Capitol area :lol: ma-usab gyud pag-ayo ang skyline sa Cebu :lol:

pila kahay gasto if bridge/causeway-tunnel complex ang tukuron instead of the ferry-bridge/causeway proposal? nya makaya ra ba if ever? :)

what if sa Talisay (or should i say, Talisay Ward/District/Borough :lol: of an amalgamated Metro Cebu) ibalhin ang tibuok pier sa Cebu? buhatan lang ug artificial harbor? di ba nindot man pud para ma-redevelop nato ang harborfront sa Cebu City, parehas na pud sa SRP na naay tourist facilities etc.

if i remember right, back in 1992, that alignment will cost P18 B.

as i said, engineering-wise, anything is possible, and we certainly can build
artificial harbors. but the usual condition used are natural harbors - like
manila (manila bay) and iloilo (shielded by guimaras).

MatudNilaBaby
June 3rd, 2010, 04:21 AM
^^tunnel diay? :lol:

or what if ibalhin ang pier sa Cordova? or what if sa Talisay? mag-construct ug artificial harbor didto...

or what if duha-on ang pier, usa sa proposed reclamation sa Lapu-Lapu for vessels travelling north of Cebu island, nya usa sa Talisay for vessels travelling south...

either way, ma-abli ang atong harbourfront for development :)

what if ang cordova ug talisay ang magkasabot sa bridge just beside srp kay dili man kaha si tomas, maonsa na ang port of cebu? im sure the cebu bloc will also block tomas' projects. maayo kaha na iyang attitude karon instead of being supportive to his constituent local government leaders.

i read his interview with sun star cebu saying the he will not introduce any bill in congress until after 6 months as congressman because he is still listening and studying...

imo, wala man diay kay definite plans for cebu city as a congressman kay magtuon pa man ka for 6 months, unsa man ang serbisyo nga i offer nimo sa mga taga ciudad nga dili kana mayor?

betro
June 3rd, 2010, 04:59 AM
what if ang cordova ug talisay ang magkasabot sa bridge just beside srp kay dili man kaha si tomas, maonsa na ang port of cebu? im sure the cebu bloc will also block tomas' projects. maayo kaha na iyang attitude karon instead of being supportive to his constituent local government leaders.

i read his interview with sun star cebu saying the he will not introduce any bill in congress until after 6 months as congressman because he is still listening and studying...

imo, wala man diay kay definite plans for cebu city as a congressman kay magtuon pa man ka for 6 months, unsa man ang serbisyo nga i offer nimo sa mga taga ciudad nga dili kana mayor?

:ohno::lol::nuts:

flesh_is_weak
June 3rd, 2010, 05:27 AM
if i remember right, back in 1992, that alignment will cost P18 B.

as i said, engineering-wise, anything is possible, and we certainly can build
artificial harbors. but the usual condition used are natural harbors - like
manila (manila bay) and iloilo (shielded by guimaras).

nya sir, kanang amalgamation, wala ba nakahisgot si Tomas ana? nindot unta kung masakop na sa Cebu City ang tibuok Metro Cebu para wa nay daghang mobabag sa development

slimer
June 3rd, 2010, 06:50 AM
what if ang cordova ug talisay ang magkasabot sa bridge just beside srp kay dili man kaha si tomas, maonsa na ang port of cebu? im sure the cebu bloc will also block tomas' projects. maayo kaha na iyang attitude karon instead of being supportive to his constituent local government leaders.

i read his interview with sun star cebu saying the he will not introduce any bill in congress until after 6 months as congressman because he is still listening and studying...

imo, wala man diay kay definite plans for cebu city as a congressman kay magtuon pa man ka for 6 months, unsa man ang serbisyo nga i offer nimo sa mga taga ciudad nga dili kana mayor?

:fart::crazy:

Daizuke
June 3rd, 2010, 07:17 AM
^^ :down::down::sleepy::sleepy:

ivanc
June 3rd, 2010, 08:18 AM
i think the proposed ferry service is okay.. as long as lets say every 15 minutes and interval then makadala siya ug cars/vans.. ang problem ayohonon nasad ana is ang hiway/road infra from cordova to ml quezon ave..

bakasaurus
June 3rd, 2010, 09:09 AM
i think the proposed ferry service is okay.. as long as lets say every 15 minutes and interval then makadala siya ug cars/vans.. ang problem ayohonon nasad ana is ang hiway/road infra from cordova to ml quezon ave..

Dili na problema bai. That's an opportunity and a good motivation aron magwidening og tarongon ang road! Hehehe. Basin mamalhin na mi Cordova by next year, maayo kaayo duol ra gihapon iadto sa Cebu City ug derecho sa future developments sa SRP! Yehey! And the thing is I love ferry rides more than jeepney and vans hehe. Hayahay og walay stress.:cheers:

I am for the development of the land bridge to Shell Island pod! Nindot kaayo na nga future vantage point para mutan-aw sa Cebu City skyline, apil na pod ang future SRP skyline! Naexcited man ko nagimagine! Hahahaha.

Dako kaayo ang difference in terms of economic sustainability sa ferry og sa bridge options.

This is my proposed course of action:
1. Build the ferries and the land bridge to Shell island. (Come to think of it, it might even be a great tourism thing in the future!)
2. Road expansion (both ways to Lapu-Lapu's M. Quezon Highway and also to the Circumferential Road going from Gabi, Cordova towards Marigondon and Maribago). Come to think of it, it's hitting several birds with one stone kay it will be a preparation pod sa future expansion sa BRT!)
3. We wait until it becomes feasible to build an underwater tunnel from SRP to Cordova. I see this happening after 15-30 years from now.)

That's it for now.

lowellflores
June 3rd, 2010, 09:57 AM
Sir paul I hear na a third bridge from brgy. canjulao to NRP. when I'm doing my thesis in brgy canjulao 2001, the city government of lapulapu told me na na a daw third bridge (a proposal ) diha daw manukad sa brgy canjulao(canjulaw)Tinood ba ni? ug ingon pa ma o kuno ang kinadol-an na distance from cebu to mactan compared to the two bridges now.

zidlakan
June 3rd, 2010, 10:53 AM
Sir paul I hear na a third bridge from brgy. canjulao to NRP. when I'm doing my thesis in brgy canjulao 2001, the city government of lapulapu told me na na a daw third bridge (a proposal ) diha daw manukad sa brgy canjulao(canjulaw)Tinood ba ni? ug ingon pa ma o kuno ang kinadol-an na distance from cebu to mactan compared to the two bridges now.

sayon ra kaayo pagsulti nga naa plano. ilabi na kung panahon sa election. naa
man gani to presidentiable nga nisulti maghimo kuno siya bridge between bohol
and cebu. kasayon ra jud pagsulti ana. but it takes a real honest-to-goodness
feasibility study to come up with a sober, reasonable, and right decision. but
we can always dream, can't we? especially engineering-wise, anything is almost
possible. real projects however, are decided based on financial and economic
feasibility, especially at the macro level.

SleMarKen
June 3rd, 2010, 11:01 AM
BTW Sir Paul, pwede ninyo sundon ang ferry sevice sa Penang. from mainland to the island. Ang distance kay 3 kilometers pero it will only take less than 20 mins to load, unload and to dock. the capacity of the ferry can accommodate more or less 50 cars. successfull kaayo ni ilang ferry service although naay bayad para sa maintainance. most of the cars kay dili na mo agi sa Penang bridge kay tuyokonon na kaayo but insead mag ferry nalang straight sa padong Georgetown.

One of the reasons nganong wala sila mag construct og second bridge tungod kay di kaagi ang mga tag as nga barko under nga di maka ayo sa economy tungod kay limited ra ang maka sulod nga dagkong ships. and also their ferry service is already a trademark of georgetown as a world heritage city by the UNESCO, meaning if dili makumpleto imong pag bisita sa georgetown if dili ka ka try sa ilang ferry. naa gyuy point si @baka kay daghan kaayog turista mag balik balik og sakay sa ferry murag mga bata...hehe

Penang
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5639/penangferrygoogle1.jpg

Cebu
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1573/penangferrygoogle2.jpg

zidlakan
June 3rd, 2010, 11:02 AM
^^ aw sorry i think i didn't answer the question.

the answer is no, i haven't heard about it, if it was 2001 i should have i was
still a member of the RDC before june. anyway, let's differentiate plans that
are in the usual stage or advanced stage of project development to plans that
exist on leaders' or politician's minds.

for plans to be considered plans, the have to go beyond being project concepts
to real documents with advancing stage of development. first is the project ID
which comes in many names - usually PID - project identification document,
it has to be included in the investment program (IP) whether in the city dev't.
investment program (CDIP), provincial .. (PDIP), or regional .. (RDIP), or the
agency .. (ADIP) of whatever agency it belong to. then if it is a large project
using national funds and using ODA funding, it has to be listed in the MTPIP or
the medium-term public investment program. after that comes the pre-Feasi-
bility Study, then the full-bloen FS, then design and detailed engineering (DE)
and so on and so forth.

SleMarKen
June 3rd, 2010, 11:08 AM
Just wanna share this pics og Penang Ferry Service...

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9760/ferry5.jpg

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5958/ferry7.jpg

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6760/ferry8.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8735/ferry6.jpg

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/4699/ferry11.jpg

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5852/ferry1.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1729/ferry13.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9506/ferry4.jpg

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/3825/ferry14.jpg

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5493/ferry15.jpg

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/8244/ferry17.jpg

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/6549/ferry3.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9233/ferry2.jpg

zidlakan
June 3rd, 2010, 11:13 AM
One of the reasons nganong wala sila mag construct og second bridge tungod kay di kaagi ang mga tag as nga barko under nga di maka ayo sa economy tungod kay limited ra ang maka sulod nga dagkong ships. and also their ferry service is already a trademark of georgetown as a world heritage city by the UNESCO, meaning if dili makumpleto imong pag bisita sa georgetown if dili ka ka try sa ilang ferry. naa gyuy point si @baka kay daghan kaayog turista mag balik balik og sakay sa ferry murag mga bata...hehe

exactly the same reason why we can't build a third bridge there because it
will stifle the economic activity of the cebu international port which is one of
our biggest assets ...

Cebu
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1573/penangferrygoogle2.jpg

trivia lang, if you don't do it already ...

1) Shell Island belongs to Cordova. that's why we say Cordova is just 600
meters away from Cebu City.

2) one can actually walk (maybe wade in certain sections) all the way from
Shell Island to Cordova during low tide. hence the possibility of low-cost
land bridges ...

SleMarKen
June 3rd, 2010, 11:14 AM
view of their bridge from the ferry...
sorry sa OT pics pero naka relate lang gyud ko og maayo about this two places kay halos tanan from geographical set up ngadto na sa city, history, people, historical sites, tops to penang hill, both 2nd cities and many more kay pare pareha gyud...
ang kalahi lang gyud kay mas nindot gud ang Cebu.. period...hehehe

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9351/ferry18.jpg

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4053/ferry16.jpg

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9876/ferry12.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5202/ferry9.jpg

zidlakan
June 3rd, 2010, 11:36 AM
view of their bridge from the ferry...
sorry sa OT pics pero naka relate lang gyud ko og maayo about this two places kay halos tanan from geographical set up ngadto na sa city, history, people, historical sites, tops to penang hill, both 2nd cities and many more kay pare pareha gyud...
ang kalahi lang gyud kay mas nindot gud ang Cebu.. period...hehehe

homesick lang ka bay, he he he

SleMarKen
June 3rd, 2010, 11:39 AM
dili lang homesick sir uy, cancer na gyun ni...hahaha
Perog maka uli gani, mularga nasag balik...lol

exactly the same reason why we can't build a third bridge there because it
will stifle the economic activity of the cebu international port which is one of
our biggest assets ...



trivia lang, if you don't do it already ...

1) Shell Island belongs to Cordova. that's why we say Cordova is just 600
meters away from Cebu City.

2) one can actually walk (maybe wade in certain sections) all the way from
Shell Island to Cordova during low tide. hence the possibility of low-cost
land bridges ...

asta diay sa reason Sir pareha sad...lol

yup, mostly mangrove plantation na dihang dapita, shell island is still connected sa mainland Mactan Island...

So kung ma connect nana og land bridge, makwaan na atong 7100 islands.

MatudNilaBaby
June 3rd, 2010, 11:46 AM
Restrictions

Foreign Ships are not allowed to pass the North Channel, due to the bridge between Mandaue and Opon. However, ships of 24.38 m. vertical height from MLW and length of 91.44m. may pass with utmost care.
Draft limitation of 12.19 m. for Cebu Channel while port established berthing spaces vary from 3.05 – 9.14 m.


source: http://www.cpa.gov.ph/portinfo_harbor.html



if i remember right, back in 1992, that alignment will cost P18 B.

as i said, engineering-wise, anything is possible, and we certainly can build
artificial harbors. but the usual condition used are natural harbors - like
manila (manila bay) and iloilo (shielded by guimaras).

given the topographical constraints of the channel based on depth, the international port can no longer take or accommodate much bigger vessels bisan asa pa paagia whether north or south channel. building the bridge from cordova and cebu city of similar height sa old mactan 1 and 2 bridges will not not stop the medium range vessels from taking the same route.

zidlakan
June 3rd, 2010, 11:59 AM
given the topographical constraints of the channel based on depth, the international port can no longer take or accommodate much bigger vessels bisan asa pa paagia whether north or south channel. building the bridge from cordova and cebu city of similar height sa old mactan 1 and 2 bridges will not not stop the medium range vessels from taking the same route.

yup, you're right, can't no longer take bigger vessels. but if we build a bridge
in the south with the same height as MMB 1 and 2, all the inter-island boats
from manila to cebu can't dock at the cebu port. presently, these have to go
around mactan island, from manila, then go back north to enter mactan channel
from the south. if we close it, all the superferries can't enter the cebu port.

the constraint is not based on depth but on height limitations. the only way
to go around this constraint is to build a higher bridge, the cost of which in-
creases geometrically as to make it not economically feasible. i'll check if
i still have a copy of the consultant's report, else i'll check with NEDA i hope
they have not archived it already ...

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
June 3rd, 2010, 12:31 PM
Cebu
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1573/penangferrygoogle2.jpg

bai, ask lang ko, based sa imong illustration, cordova na diay nang dapita? i thought ubos2x pa gamay ang cordova? murag lapu-lapu city pa man na sa akong tanaw lang ha. its either brgy. canhulao or brgy. calawisan pa man na.

zidlakan
June 3rd, 2010, 12:34 PM
bai, ask lang ko, based sa imong illustration, cordova na diay nang dapita? i thought ubos2x pa gamay ang cordova? murag lapu-lapu city pa man na sa akong tanaw lang ha. its either brgy. canhulao or brgy. calawisan pa man na.

the lower right hand corner (triangular) is Cordova. but shell island belongs to
and is within the territorial jurisdiction of cordova. yeah, its near canjulao,
lapu-lapu city. still, shell island is cordova already ...

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
June 3rd, 2010, 12:41 PM
^^
right. but without shell island sir paul, cordova proper is how many kms from cebu city? layo2x sad gyud ang cordova uy kung butangan og land bridges. mas nindot kung underwater tunnel na lang! :D:D

SleMarKen
June 3rd, 2010, 12:56 PM
bai, ask lang ko, based sa imong illustration, cordova na diay nang dapita? i thought ubos2x pa gamay ang cordova? murag lapu-lapu city pa man na sa akong tanaw lang ha. its either brgy. canhulao or brgy. calawisan pa man na.

yup, you're right...sa Southeastern part sa Mactan island ang Cordova... IMO, not necessarily adto gyud tugpa ang bridge sa Cordova kay tua man sa pikas ang Cordova proper...

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/996/penangferrygoogle3.jpg

MatudNilaBaby
June 3rd, 2010, 01:00 PM
take a look at this bridge in the port of long beach where i live now is about to be replaced like that of mactan 2 bridge or penang bridge. take a look at the clearance of the old bridge if it is comparable with our bridges in mactan. hopefully this will give us an idea of the feasibility of the cordovan-cebu city bridge. please click on the link.

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http://www.youtube.com/portoflongbeach#p/u/0/mkjRBKfNGaE

habagatcentral1
June 3rd, 2010, 01:07 PM
take a look at this bridge in the port of long beach where i live now is about to be replaced like that of mactan 2 bridge or penang bridge. take a look at the clearance of the old bridge if it is comparable with our bridges in mactan. hopefully this will give us an idea of the feasibility of the cordovan-cebu city bridge. please click on the link.

<object style="height: 344px; width: 425px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/mkjRBKfNGaE"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/mkjRBKfNGaE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"></object>

http://www.youtube.com/portoflongbeach#p/u/0/mkjRBKfNGaE

mkjRBKfNGaE

SleMarKen
June 3rd, 2010, 01:08 PM
^^much better Ferry nalang... d na maka dunggo ang mga cruise ships sa CIP...

bright man kaha, nganong di man kahibaw mo post og link sa youtube... youtube rights na na ha? :lol:

MatudNilaBaby
June 3rd, 2010, 01:13 PM
^^much better Ferry nalang... d na maka dunggo ang mga cruise ships sa CIP...

bright man kaha, nganong di man kahibaw mo post og link sa youtube... youtube rights na na ha? :lol:

hmm nakabalos kada. thanks for posting the videos for me. usually i let my students do the computer work for me. good excuse sir:cheers::cheers::cheers:

SleMarKen
June 3rd, 2010, 01:18 PM
^^awa ra, double post pa gyud..pastilaaaan! :lol::laugh:
di raba ako nag post, si amihan man...huh

nindot ba sad kaha tan awn kung bisag asa ka lingo, puro bridge imo makit an...

MatudNilaBaby
June 3rd, 2010, 01:25 PM
^^awa ra, double post pa gyud..pastilaaaan! :lol::laugh:
di raba ako nag post, si amihan man...

nindot ba sad kaha bati tan awn kung bisag asa ka lingo, puro bridge imo makit an...

did you analyze the video content? looking at the vertical clearance mora ug taas2x paman siguro ang atong bridges kaysa aning aging gerald desmond bridge. look at the carg0 ships that passed through that bridge. take note this bridge was constructed on the 60's and mactan 1 on the 70's, pero nganong tag one lane raman na in each direction maongb traffic na kaayo? unsa man gikawat ni marcos ang katunga?:lol::lol::lol:

zidlakan
June 3rd, 2010, 02:15 PM
did you analyze the video content? looking at the vertical clearance mora ug taas2x paman siguro ang atong bridges kaysa aning aging gerald desmond bridge. :lol::lol::lol:

gerald desmond bridge has about 2x the vertical clearance of the mandaue-
mactan bridges. which means it can allow cargo ships at least 4x the size of
that which passes under the MMBs.

difficult and inaccurate to judge by visual alone because of perspective effect ...

MatudNilaBaby
June 3rd, 2010, 02:27 PM
gerald desmond bridge has about 2x the vertical clearance of the mandaue-
mactan bridges. which means it can allow cargo ships at least 4x the size of
that which passes under the MMBs.

difficult and inaccurate to judge by visual alone because of perspective effect ...

hmm maybe because i have driven on that bridge and under that bridge. it seems like the gerald desmond bridge is narrower compared to the mactan bridges.
its the 3rd largest port in the us so there's more traffic especialy with large cargo ships. those cranes we have on the port of cebu is just a miniscule of what they have around here. maybe good traffic management of cargo and passenger ships is vital in the construction of another link bridges to mainland cebu. we're not growing any smaller.

zidlakan
June 3rd, 2010, 02:58 PM
hmm maybe because i have driven on that bridge and under that bridge. it seems like the gerald desmond bridge is narrower compared to the mactan bridges.
its the 3rd largest port in the us so there's more traffic especialy with large cargo ships. those cranes we have on the port of cebu is just a miniscule of what they have around here. maybe good traffic management of cargo and passenger ships is vital in the construction of another link bridges to mainland cebu. we're not growing any smaller.

can't blame you. with a bridge this high, look at what kind of ships it can allow
to pass underneath!!!! :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2049/1492429951_72ba238bc6.jpg

but alas, we are just a tiny spec compared to long beach. in 2006, cebu port
handled only about 1.4 million containers. long beach reached 7.31 containers
in 2007.

MatudNilaBaby
June 3rd, 2010, 03:23 PM
can't blame you. with a bridge this high, look at what kind of ships it can allow
to pass underneath!!!! :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2049/1492429951_72ba238bc6.jpg

but alas, we are just a tiny spec compared to long beach. in 2006, cebu port
handled only about 1.4 million containers. long beach reached 7.31 containers
in 2007.

i think its about time that cebu starts thinking big forward on. we dont have to wait until we're full capacity. we are going into that direction of bigger populaton, bigger economy and bigger needs for infrastructure.

its about time that our local government leaders unite and work together for the common good of the cebuanos in particular and the whole country in general. other cities looked up to cebu as a model yet renegade city and province.

SleMarKen
June 3rd, 2010, 04:06 PM
^^unsa man gyud diay pag tuo nimo sa mga taw sa Cebu, wala diay nag huna huna sa kaugmaon sa Sugbo? Imo gyong i insist nga wala gyud nag huna huna, o di kahibaw mo huna huna o bugo ba kaha ang mga taw sa Sugbo. Kahibaw baya ka nga di gyud makaya sa budget og sa feasibility but then imo gyung pagawas nga wala nalang gyud nag huna huna og tarong atong mga Governmnt officials, imo gyung ipagawas nga mas maayo gyud ang mga gipang tukod diha nga kinahanglan maoy sundon...
Ang kalahi an raba sa Amerika og Pilipinas kay ang Amerika kwarta ang nagpadagan sa tanan, sa Pilipinas utok... ang pag huna huna kung unsa ray makaya, paraktikal kung baga...

Tip lang: Lingi sad intawn amigo kung diin ka gikan...:ohno:

AmbutLang
June 3rd, 2010, 04:06 PM
Draw Bridges

Kani sa Portland, Maine

http://www.usm.maine.edu/~lsavage/UrbanGeographyProjects/transportation/images/bridgeup.jpg

Greenpoint Bridge, Brooklyn New York. Duol sa amo. :)

http://en.structurae.de/structures/data/index.cfm?id=s0007972

Mostly used by Tug boats for sludge barge from the seware treatment plants.

AmbutLang
June 3rd, 2010, 04:18 PM
Just wanna share this pics og Penang Ferry Service...

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1729/ferry13.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9506/ferry4.jpg

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/3825/ferry14.jpg


^^Rey,pareho ni sa Staten Island Ferry sa NYC. Free na dire pero gi orong nila ang car ferry service tungud sa nahitabo. Aircon/heated ang passengers seating area depende sa panahon. They have dedicated slips nga haom ang ferry inig dunggo.

http://www.siferry.com/SIFerry_Photos.aspx

MatudNilaBaby
June 3rd, 2010, 05:24 PM
^^unsa man gyud diay pag tuo nimo sa mga taw sa Cebu, wala diay nag huna huna sa kaugmaon sa Sugbo? Imo gyong i insist nga wala gyud nag huna huna, o di kahibaw mo huna huna o bugo ba kaha ang mga taw sa Sugbo. Kahibaw baya ka nga di gyud makaya sa budget og sa feasibility but then imo gyung pagawas nga wala nalang gyud nag huna huna og tarong atong mga Governmnt officials, imo gyung ipagawas nga mas maayo gyud ang mga gipang tukod diha nga kinahanglan maoy sundon...
Ang kalahi an raba sa Amerika og Pilipinas kay ang Amerika kwarta ang nagpadagan sa tanan, sa Pilipinas utok... ang pag huna huna kung unsa ray makaya, paraktikal kung baga...

Tip lang: Lingi sad intawn amigo kung diin ka gikan...:ohno:

look what happened to mactan 1 bridge? nagmantener ug one lane each direction? how's the traffic now. to think that the gerald desmond bridge was built 10yrs earlier than mactan bridge. how are you going to explain that we are 10years behind in thinking sila nag 5 lanes sa ilang bridge in 1960s unya kita nag 2 lanes in 1970's. we'll just say its a puzzlement about our filipino mentality!:lol::lol::lol:

i was just playing a devils advocate. or im really a devil:devil::devil::devil: if that makes you happy. there is always two side to a coin. likewise there is two sides to a feasibility study.

MatudNilaBaby
June 3rd, 2010, 05:27 PM
Draw Bridges

Kani sa Portland, Maine

http://www.usm.maine.edu/~lsavage/UrbanGeographyProjects/transportation/images/bridgeup.jpg

Greenpoint Bridge, Brooklyn New York. Duol sa amo. :)

http://en.structurae.de/structures/data/index.cfm?id=s0007972

Mostly used by Tug boats for sludge barge from the seware treatment plants.

the draw bridge can be a first in the philippines. it looks more feasible and doable. i cant think of any in ncr.

habagatcentral1
June 3rd, 2010, 05:35 PM
the draw bridge can be a first in the philippines. it looks more feasible and doable. i cant think of any in ncr.
Because there can't be any in NCR. Pasig River is only for low-deck river ferries and barges. :lol:
Pardon me, I think Colgante Bridge was the first in the Philippines or perhaps the draw bridges of the old forts in the Philippines. :D

I just simply couldn't get the logic on why you have to compare it with NCR? :lol:

look what happened to mactan 1 bridge? nagmantener ug one lane each direction? how's the traffic now. to think that the gerald desmond bridge was built 10yrs earlier than mactan bridge. how are you going to explain that we are 10years behind in thinking sila nag 5 lanes sa ilang bridge in 1960s unya kita nag 2 lanes in 1970's. we'll just say its a puzzlement about our filipino mentality!:lol::lol::lol:

i was just playing a devils advocate. or im really a devil:devil::devil::devil: if that makes you happy. there is always two side to a coin. likewise there is two sides to a feasibility study.

Katawa gyud ko ani oe. :lol: Have you seen Mactan-Cebu traffic in the 1970's and 1980's? Is it comparable to the traffic of Gerald Desmond Bridge back then and now? Hmm, and since it is the Marcos era, ever wonder where the money went or where do we source out our money in the national scene?

Wa lang, nagwonder lang jud ko sa argument. Hehe! Peace! :nocrook:

bakasaurus
June 3rd, 2010, 07:25 PM
Pila man ang cost sa 2 lane bridge VS a 5-lane bridge sir? Lol.

Makalimot man ka pirme brad sa kalahi sa Pinas og sa US bisan ug ang 1960s nga US VS Pinas in 2010. Dugay na man kaayong na economic powerhouse ang US.

You know it always boils down to current economic limitations.
It's not always a lack of foresight but more often a lack of resources.
One would want to implement a plan looking at 50 years into the uncertain future but current economic realities would pull that back to planning within the next 2 or 3 decades.

This is not to say I disagree with you nga we need to be more ambitious infrastructure-wise among other things. It's good to aim high. But we also need to be pragmatic and grounded to our economic realities. Bisan gani ang Dubai nga dato kaayo, nihagba man gani kung wala gisawo sa Abu Dhabi. I understand your frustration, especially when you see the nice things in developed countries and then you start asking yourself why we can't have these things back in our hometown, in our country. But there are no shortcuts I guess, these are not things you can pull out of thin air. We may get there one day, but it's not going to be that easy.

SleMarKen
June 3rd, 2010, 07:28 PM
look what happened to mactan 1 bridge? nagmantener ug one lane each direction? how's the traffic now. to think that the gerald desmond bridge was built 10yrs earlier than mactan bridge. how are you going to explain that we are 10years behind in thinking sila nag 5 lanes sa ilang bridge in 1960s unya kita nag 2 lanes in 1970's. we'll just say its a puzzlement about our filipino mentality!:lol::lol::lol:

i was just playing a devils advocate. or im really a devil:devil::devil::devil: if that makes you happy. there is always two side to a coin. likewise there is two sides to a feasibility study.

simple ra gud, bisag century earlier pana nila gitukod, maka tukod silag 4 lane kag igo man ilang kwarta...

sa case sa Cebu nga 1980's ra gitukod... maybe naay plano i 4 lane pero 2 lane ra may makaya sa budget maong 2 lane bridge nalang ang gitukod... now here comes 2nd bridge nga 4 lane. there's a plan for more lanes pero di naman makaya sa budget, 4 lane bridge raman gyud ang makaya... di na kelangan i memorize yan...:lol:


so you're saying here nga being poor is a bad mentality, or mentality ba kaha na nimo, nag sige tingali kag basol nganong na Pilipino ka... poor matudnilababy! :D

SleMarKen
June 3rd, 2010, 07:33 PM
Pila man ang cost sa 2 lane bridge VS a 5-lane bridge sir? Lol.

Makalimot man ka pirme brad sa kalahi sa Pinas og sa US bisan ug ang 1960s nga US VS Pinas in 2010. Dugay na man kaayong na economic powerhouse ang US.

You know it always boils down to current economic limitations.
It's not always a lack of foresight but more often a lack of resources.
One would want to implement a plan looking at 50 years into the uncertain future but current economic realities would pull that back to planning within the next 2 or 3 decades.

sakto gyud ka bai, di gyud kahibaw mo figure out... or di lang gyud kadawat nga pobre ta and it's a bad mentality...:bash:

MatudNilaBaby
June 3rd, 2010, 10:22 PM
simple ra gud, bisag century earlier pana nila gitukod, maka tukod silag 4 lane kag igo man ilang kwarta...

sa case sa Cebu nga 1980's ra gitukod... maybe naay plano i 4 lane pero 2 lane ra may makaya sa budget maong 2 lane bridge nalang ang gitukod... now here comes 2nd bridge nga 4 lane. there's a plan for more lanes pero di naman makaya sa budget, 4 lane bridge raman gyud ang makaya... di na kelangan i memorize yan...:lol:


so you're saying here nga being poor is a bad mentality, or mentality ba kaha na nimo, nag sige tingali kag basol nganong na Pilipino ka... poor matudnilababy! :D

HOW ABOUT GIKAWAT ANG KATUNGA GI BULSA? MOTOO KA. I KNOW SOME INSIDE JOBS DIHA SA CITY ENGINEERS UG DPWH OFFICE WHEN MY PARENTS ENTERED INTO GOVERNMENT PROJECT BIDDINGS.

SleMarKen
June 3rd, 2010, 10:58 PM
^^ahhhhhhhhhhh! katunga gyud? naa raman diay nang rasona, mo likoy pa gyud nga wa nag huna huna sa kaugmaon sa Sugbo atong mga officials... pero nganong sure man ka nga katunga jud? so you also know detail by detail? kung giunsa pag bahin?:D

Pero mo ask lang ko, kung magplano kag project like a bridge, sa feasibility pa lang, sa designing og sa cost... mo ingon ta nga it will cost P1B sa 2 lane bridge, unya ig check sa budget kay kuwangan... so does it mean sa pag check pa lang sa budget, wapa gi release na kurakot na? or unya na na ma kurakot if na release na ang budget, humana ang feasibility og ang design?

Or ba kaha sa feasibility study pa lang, mo demand na silag dako llike mo ingon sila nga ang P1B for 2 lanes rana pero madala ra diay og 4 lanes...???

First, kinsa may mo buhat sa feasibility? DPWH, city engineers? kinsa pa man?

flesh_is_weak
June 4th, 2010, 12:07 AM
kalma lang mo uy, murag hugaw na ni padung da...bridge lang gani ang gi-istoryahan...ayaw mo anang personal attacks uy, unya mag-respetohay lang ta sa ideas sa usag-usa (bahala na kung usahay outrageous ra kaayo paminawon :lol:) storya-storya ra gud ning ato para pawala sa duka...

SleMarKen
June 4th, 2010, 12:09 AM
^^mao, forumer's rights nana :lol:

zidlakan
June 4th, 2010, 12:58 AM
the draw bridge can be a first in the philippines. it looks more feasible and doable. i cant think of any in ncr.

doable, i agree. feasible, i don't think so. but it's doable alright. i mean it can
be doable anywhere else as along as you have enough strength for the piers
and the abutments, enough space for the approaches and the elevation bet-
ween two banks are not too different. yeah, even in mactan channel, i think
it can be doable.

feasibility is another matter. feasibility is measured in new economic value -
particularly in revenue to cost ratios and net economic streams over the econo-
mic life of the structure. and the procedure and methodology for determination
does not vary anywhere, its the same all over the world, with the parameters
standardized among development agencies. in this case, if an ordinary bridge
may not be feasible, how much more a drawbridge. that's why i asked fred if
he could find me some cost figures for the drawbridges in the U.S. even at
50% more cost above the ordinary, feasibility indicators would fail, how much
more for costs twice or three times more.

ultimately, its the feasibility indicators that govern the decision on whether to
do a project or not, with certain exceptions (social safety nets, etc.). this
is true in the philippines, in the U.S. and anywhere else.

AmbutLang
June 4th, 2010, 02:07 AM
Kani Paul?

http://en.structurae.de/structures/data/index.cfm?id=s0007972

Pulaski Bridge
New Vernon Avenue Bridge

Built: 1947 - 1954
Location: Between Greenpoint, Brooklyn, New York, New York, USA and Long Island City, Queens, New York, New York, USA
Crosses: Newtown Creek


Click on the image to enlarge it.

Structural Type: Bascule bridge


Function / usage: Road bridge



Persons involved with this structure
Legend: Phase of works
Role Name Part of structure

Designer Frederick Zurmuhlen



Firms, offices, etc. involved with this structure
Legend: Phase of works
Role Name Part of structure

Owner New York City Department of Transportation

Client New York City Department of Public Works



Technical information
Description Value
Construction materials used
piers reinforced concrete

bascule span steel

deck girder spans steel

half-through girder spans steel

Dimensions

bascule span length 12.2 m
roadway / carriageway width 20.2 m
sidewalk width 2.4 m
Cost

cost of construction US$ 9,664,446.25


Chronology
10 September 1954 Opening ceremony.


Notes & Comments
The bridge has paired double-leaf bascule spans, deck girders, and half-through girders.
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Spans Newtown Creek between McGuinness Boulevard, Greenpoint, Kings County, NY, and 11th Street, Long Island City, Queens County, NY. Also spans New York & Atlantic Railroad and Queens-Midtown Tunnel toll plaza.
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Named for Casimir Pulaski, Polish commander who aided in American war of independence from Britain. The bascule leaves have parallel-counterweight design, and are protected by yielding cable-type traffic barriers, both similar to designs of Joseph B. Strauss, the patents for which had expired by the time of construction. Also painted a similar color to that of the Golden Gate Bridge.


Relevant Web Sites
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Wikipedia: Pulaski Bridge
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Here is a general idea about draw bridge

http://www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Draw-Bridge.html

Henz
June 4th, 2010, 03:02 AM
Ang topic nato dire karon.. layo na kaayog naabtan... from Penang to New York to Europe.. dili na me ka relate............. Makes me think... if i am in Cebu Thread ba or in an International Thread.........

paet ning wa jud ta kataak ug laing lugar oi......... ignorante tawon meh...

zidlakan
June 4th, 2010, 03:03 AM
^^ thanks, fred. i'll take a look at it later, just arrived at the office, work sa
ko he he he

zidlakan
June 4th, 2010, 03:06 AM
Ang topic nato dire karon.. layo na kaayog naabtan... from Penang to New York to Europe.. dili na me ka relate............. Makes me think... if i am in Cebu Thread ba or in an International Thread.........

paet ning wa jud ta kataak ug laing lugar oi......... ignorante tawon meh...

cge ... ari na lang ta sa lubok bridge. you all familiar with it? or its distinctive
notoriety? je je je ... my former boss once called it "a monument of stupidity!"

kung kahibaw ka sa background, di ka ka decide, makatawa ba ka ug maglagot!

SleMarKen
June 4th, 2010, 03:12 AM
^^katong bridge nga mo agi sa ibabaw sa simbahan Sir? Pagka kita nako ato, nag libog ko kung humana ba to, kung mao na ba to o sumpayan ba tog tunnel ilawm sa simbahan... naabot nasad tag bohol...hehehe... really a monument of wasteful planning:ohno:


bitaw @ migo henzboi, ako lang gipost basig maka kuha silag idea si Sir Paul about sa ferry diri nga less than 1 minute ra ang pag dunggo, nya 15 mins ang interval kada ferry... naa koy video dire kung unsa mo work ilang ferry service pero di man ma upload sa yt...

Henz
June 4th, 2010, 03:23 AM
cge ... ari na lang ta sa lubok bridge. you all familiar with it? or its distinctive
notoriety? je je je ... my former boss once called it "a monument of stupidity!"

kung kahibaw ka sa background, di ka ka decide, makatawa ba ka ug maglagot!


hala asa man na dapit na bridge? Lubok bridge, dire na sa ato sir?

SleMarKen
June 4th, 2010, 03:28 AM
btw sir, kumusta natong proposed nga dan parallel sa escario nga mo agi luyo sa Capitol? dayon pa to?

MatudNilaBaby
June 4th, 2010, 03:35 AM
Ang topic nato dire karon.. layo na kaayog naabtan... from Penang to New York to Europe.. dili na me ka relate............. Makes me think... if i am in Cebu Thread ba or in an International Thread.........

paet ning wa jud ta kataak ug laing lugar oi......... ignorante tawon meh...

i-apil ang bag-o nga gi convulsion or bridge in seizure sa atong subject karon didto sa volgograd, southern russia about 7km long ni siya. calling youtube experts to post it here please. thank you.:cheers::cheers::cheers:

zidlakan
June 4th, 2010, 03:36 AM
hala asa man na dapit na bridge? Lubok bridge, dire na sa ato sir?

bohol. nahimo na man gani nang tourist attraction, he he he

btw sir, kumusta natong proposed nga dan parallel sa escario nga mo agi luyo sa Capitol? dayon pa to?

mana man na. passable na actually. wa pa lang ma han-ay kay gi-sumpay-
sumpay ra man na. i hope mike rama will prioritize that also.