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Zuburbia
September 8th, 2010, 12:59 PM
I also deal with people from the South and I don't hear these complaints. Maybe that is your impression.

Stereotyping cannot be avoided but it is not so rampant. It also happens anywhere in the world.

Don't you know that there are so many executives in Metro Manila who are from the South or from the province? They are highly regarded.

Oh maiba tayo...
Aren't you aware the acceptance of people from the capital of those new discoveries na mga artista? :) I think alam mo na whom I am referring to. Marami sila from the South.

So, I think we should not be blinded of that OLD notion of bias.

they were accepted in the capital because they adapted the tagalog style already, maybe because they lived there for quite awhile, and have lost the cebuano traits in them such as accents...what about those who are really full blooded cebuano whos language, ways and culture depicts purely a cebuano, would you think he/she will be fully accepted as a serious persona, or bka ilalagay na naman sa comedy? hahahaha

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 8th, 2010, 01:18 PM
I also read somewhere in this thread that Cebu follow the lead of Timor Leste, as if Cebuanos are that oppressed. Don't you know that in East Timor the rape of its women was systematized by the Indonesian army? Dapat lang na tumiwalag sila. Here in RP, Cebuanos are upheld as shining examples of industry, hard work and success. You go to Manila and mention the place Cebu and what comes to the Tagalogs' mind is a place where the rich and famous party.
Correct. Masyado lang sensitive ang mga ibang forumers dito.:ohno:

asus, sino bang niloloko nyo?! ha! wag nyong lokohin ang mga cebuanos! ang lokohin nyo mga sarili nyo! di nyo kami madadala sa mga ganyang usapan! eh kailan pa naging sobrang ASTIG ang cebu sa mata ng mga kurimaw na mga tagalog?! nagkiat lang ng imong dagway dah! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

diehardbisdak
September 8th, 2010, 02:09 PM
Hays!

OT lng ko.... Kinsay does anyone know the contact numbers of Toshiba Concept Store sa SM Cebu?


...remember google?...hehehe...joke lang bai...here:

(032)4129344


:D

Parchie
September 8th, 2010, 03:13 PM
i have also the same experience, when me and my family went to the vatican a tagalog speaking family (i dont know if they really are tagalogs) made a stink eye on us.. i heard one of them saying 'Ay bisaya'. i did not know what that meant.

How about hearing this; "PU_ _NG INANG BISAYA!" I almost punched the guy who said that. Good I was a bit far from him. You don't have to be knowledgeable of the Tagalog language to understand those either!

donut_bai
September 8th, 2010, 03:27 PM
oops, don't even drag Cebu's grand old man to your rigid brain! YES, President Sergio Osmeña is a Cebuano and became our nation's president ONLY ONLY ONLY by SUCCESSION and not through ELECTION!!!! gets mo? and NEVER EVER in the history of the nation had a CEBUANO been elected the highest position in the land!

bakit nga ba walang cebuano o bisaya for that matter? a cebuano/bisaya president seating in manila? ohhhh common' that soooo ridiculous! tagalogs would certainly oust him immediately!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

and speaking of President Sergio Osmeña, CEBU is going to celebrate his 130th birthday tomorrow September 9!!!! CEBU will enjoy a longer weekend ahead than the rest!!! :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Right President Osmena lost to President Roxas, a fellow visayan in the elections after World War II. I believe President Garcia is from Bohol but his parents are from Abra. President Roxas is from Capiz. These are the only presidents I can think of that comes from the south. I maybe wrong but none from Mindanao so far. With the current system in our country, the many outstanding minds and talents we have from the south will never have a chance to lead our country. Such a shame, but as @Ronnie said at least may sumisikat na na artista from the south, I hope hinde lang sa comedy, :lol: and hey we can always do business right?

shadow_can2003
September 8th, 2010, 03:40 PM
asus, sino bang niloloko nyo?! ha! wag nyong lokohin ang mga cebuanos! ang lokohin nyo mga sarili nyo! di nyo kami madadala sa mga ganyang usapan! eh kailan pa naging sobrang ASTIG ang cebu sa mata ng mga kurimaw na mga tagalog?! nagkiat lang ng imong dagway dah! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

parang sinabi monaring walang confidence ang mga cebuano nyan. ang nakakatuwa kayo tong nagrereklamo about racism but look what your doing. :ohno:

Trigonometry101
September 8th, 2010, 03:43 PM
what's that?

City vs. City sir.

I miss Cebu. Im going to be back this December :banana:

diehardbisdak
September 8th, 2010, 03:53 PM
...early Christmas wish:


"peace and stability to SSC-Cebu's Thread"



:)

shadow_can2003
September 8th, 2010, 03:56 PM
...early Christmas wish:


"peace and stability to SSC-Cebu's Thread"



:)

sorry diehard and sa lahat . I hope this debate will end :)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 8th, 2010, 04:01 PM
parang sinabi monaring walang confidence ang mga cebuano nyan. ang nakakatuwa kayo tong nagrereklamo about racism but look what your doing. :ohno:

hahahaha... kung kayo rin lang ang magsasabi nyan, WAG NA! might as well throw it in the amazon river and let it feed with hungry BUAYAS waiting for you! :lol::lol::lol:

mwg12a
September 8th, 2010, 04:04 PM
umh, sir @mwg, i didn't quite get what you meant about the one I highlighted.

with regards to Cebuanos being the ones who gets easily affected, its because its a general thought that when you speak of bisaya, people associate it with Cebu in one way or the other. I mean, when I was in Manila a few years ago, I was asked by a sari-sari store vendor because she overheard me talked in Cebuano with my cousin while waiting for a jeepney to SM Fairview. she asked me if I am from Cebu because probably what might be running through her mind was my bisaya. but say for example I wasn't a bisaya from Cebu and say, I'm from Dipolog and I speak Cebuano also then I'm pretty sure that sari-sari vendor would still think I am from Cebu because I speak Cebuano bisaya. but if I were from Bacolod, I don't think they'd call my language bisaya bec. obviously it would be ilonggo. the ilonggos and warays may not care about it because all three of the visayan languages have different intonations. the ilonggos are well known for their soft spoken tongue, the cebuanos pretty much on the middle while the warays are famous for their hard tone. but amongst the 3 of these, many people would still refer to bisaya as Cebuano.

If indeed Manilans do think Cebuanos are sophisticated bisaya and the rest are promdis, remember that Cebuano is spoken by an estimated 22 million people across the visayas and mindanao. If a manila peep bashes a bisaya, even though he/she might not actually refer to the Cebuano populace in Cebu, the reaction would somehow cause Cebuanos to be alarmed because of that bisaya-tagged that is linked to Cebu. para kasing naging tagasalo tuloy ang mga Cebuanos sa lahat ng mga stereotypes against bisaya even though hindi naman talaga sila ang tinutukoy. ;)

Honestly, alot of non bisaya would not be able to tell the difference between how Illongo and Cebuano bisaya would sound like. To most non bisaya the words sound pretty much the same just as how I thought before that Bicolano dialect sounds the same as bisaya. You could take it as ignorance but it just so happen that our ears are not use to hearing bisaya or illongo all the time. I came to realize only when my uncles on my father side married a Bisaya, then I learn from them the way I learn things from my Cebuana wife.

Your second paragraph is what I was trying to ask before these. That answered my curious question.

Parchie
September 8th, 2010, 04:05 PM
sorry diehard and sa lahat . I hope this debate will end :)

So many words had been thrown, ain't that simple bro! For as long as we continue to hear slurs, see those sharp looks, and those debasing comments, we will stand our ground, make no mistake about that.
It's good you hear Visayan people ranting, what's fearful is when you won't hear us talking, you know what that means!

Zuburbia
September 8th, 2010, 04:05 PM
sorry diehard and sa lahat . I hope this debate will end :)



^^
manulod man gud mo gud.. :lol:nagkalingaw ra gani mig hisgot2x kung unsa kahag mosukwahi mis plano sa kaulohan og maghimo mig amo para pod sa among kaayohan kay kung magsalig mi ninyos manila, maabtan mig siyam2x wa jud mi gihapoy ayo, apil jud pirmes dautang kahig sa manila og di magahinan og kaayohan sa sentralisado niining pang gobyerno! :ohno:

mwg12a
September 8th, 2010, 04:15 PM
Originally Posted by ormocanon
I also read somewhere in this thread that Cebu follow the lead of Timor Leste, as if Cebuanos are that oppressed. Don't you know that in East Timor the rape of its women was systematized by the Indonesian army? Dapat lang na tumiwalag sila. Here in RP, Cebuanos are upheld as shining examples of industry, hard work and success. You go to Manila and mention the place Cebu and what comes to the Tagalogs' mind is a place where the rich and famous party.

asus, sino bang niloloko nyo?! ha! wag nyong lokohin ang mga cebuanos! ang lokohin nyo mga sarili nyo! di nyo kami madadala sa mga ganyang usapan! eh kailan pa naging sobrang ASTIG ang cebu sa mata ng mga kurimaw na mga tagalog?! nagkiat lang ng imong dagway dah! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

You'd be surprised! That guy is telling you the truth, I don't think they are saying that just to fool you guys.

If I may share a personal experience and through my mother... when I was younger, they did mention about how filipinos don't get along, she did mention something about avoiding bisayas (I won't mention which provinces or impressions they have because it might offend them and that's not my intention, and i know half of them are not accurate) from this and that area, the one thing she mentioned was Cebuanos among other bisaya are easier to get along because they are mild mannered i guess her actual words are "mas maayos makasama ang mga taga Cebu kaysa ibang bisaya". This is a true story and I am not making these up, she passed away already so I am pretty sure I won't use her name vain.

I'm pretty sure just like what you mentioned above, if a non bisaya is teased or ridiculed in Manila say for instance on tv. Cebuanos would react as well even if it is not directly pointed to them, but just because the word Bisaya sounds like more of a generalization.

SleMarKen
September 8th, 2010, 04:22 PM
Asa man kuno ni be?

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2503/dsc00001c.jpg (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/dsc00001c.jpg/)

mwg12a
September 8th, 2010, 04:26 PM
bakit nga ba walang cebuano o bisaya for that matter? a cebuano/bisaya president seating in manila? ohhhh common' that soooo ridiculous! tagalogs would certainly oust him immediately!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

and speaking of President Sergio Osmeña, CEBU is going to celebrate his 130th birthday tomorrow September 9!!!! CEBU will enjoy a longer weekend ahead than the rest!!! :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Good question on why there is no President from Cebu or from the Visayas except Osmeña, considering the population of the Bisaya speaking population is greater than tagalog. You would also be thinking why it seems like these past administration are being run with either Ilocano or kapangpangan... We have no real tagalog president in along while, I guess since the late President Magsaysay who died in a plane crash.

you like to reason out but you tagalog people don't wanna admit on your own stupidity!!!:bash:


^^ As you said, he's REASONING OUT. So why the hostility? :ohno:

Thanks ormocanon, it's cool. I don't think he understood clearly. He didn't even realize I was refering to filipinos as a whole and how foreigners perceived us... he probably is in regional attack mode. Ignorance at it best, sometimes you can't just do anything except what u did :ohno::lol:

The only thing I can really see on these is that, those tagalogs who chose to be ignorant or simply to have fun at the expense of others is pretty much the same as how Americans mock other people from India especially on tv or perhaps how they portray Mexicans just how you see how they use that mexican guy as part of their comedy skit in Kimmel show. I know how bisayans would feel because once in awhile, I get a share of it from my American coworkers who are mostly guys, it's just how you take it... They show respect to you but in times of laugher, you receive that blow, especially me since half of the time I look like an arab so you can just imagine how I get called "a terrorist" or imitate the way I talk, just to tease me. One thing is for sure, I always give them the same grief fair is fair.

Parchie
September 8th, 2010, 04:27 PM
Asa man kuno ni be?

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2503/dsc00001c.jpg (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/dsc00001c.jpg/)

Sirit! Mora ug nakita nako ang Crown Regency sa likod, lisud ug way compass points!

Henz
September 8th, 2010, 04:57 PM
HAH! wala kayo sa akin! I was asked by my tagalog friend, "NAKATIKIM KA NA BA NG DONUT?" "CIVILIZED DIN BA ANG CITY MO?"

Ang kapatid ko was asked by his classmate in UA&P: "May sasakyan din ba sa inyo o kalabaw pa rin ba ang sinasakyan nyo dun?" :banana::banana::banana:

My girfriend recieved this compliment from her schoolmates in UST: "Uy, marunong ka pala mag english? di ba taga iloilo ka?" :banana::banana::banana:

Kahit gagawa pa ako ng sworn statement and affidavit regarding these statements, haha! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


my sister in law and her visayan friends.. in cyprus.. is always at odds with the Luzon people and the Tagalogs......

one time she was asked... May mall ba sa inyo.... seguro ang POOR ng lugar ninyo....... :lol::lol:

Kaya ayun.. she brought along with her tons of videos and pictures of Cebu when she gets to have a vacation here last month, para makita nya ang Cebu...:lol:

Zuburbia
September 8th, 2010, 05:00 PM
Asa man kuno ni be?

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2503/dsc00001c.jpg (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/dsc00001c.jpg/)

sa jacosalem st. man ni...centro maximo ngan sa building?

slimer
September 8th, 2010, 05:01 PM
bitaw asa man na?

Henz
September 8th, 2010, 05:09 PM
Oi unsan na ni, time for kiss and make up and group hug and world peace? Hahaha.

To the tagalogs who post here defensively, although some of the people's reactions here seem blown out of proportion to you, don't fret if you are not of the kind who looks down on other people outside the capital. I think it is directed towards others who are of that kind, not YOU. I hope you don't come here in defense and denial that the discrimination does not happen. Many of us here have personal experiences about it, and if you insist that it isn't true, then you can just assume that we are having a mass delusion here. Hehe.

Just as one forumer here suggested, we are more acutely sensitive towards these happenings because we are the recipient of the discrimination. Of course, it is not as blatantly cruel as those experienced by the African Americans in the US decades ago, but it is still demeaning and annoying and makes us feel like the lesser Filipino in status.
In reality, we often are civil about it and not as outspoken here in the forum. I have some friends here too who were sent here for training in the IT field, and I had to answer as politely and restrained as I could even if I heard them say quite condescending things about Cebu and Cebuanos because they are actually from Manila who are currently working in Cebu when the same company sent them here for training.
NO, I DIDN'T DECLARE WAR ON THEM. Haha. And you know what, most Cebuanos actually try to understand that, ah, maybe it is not really their fault individually, and we try to look at it as the outcome of a BIASED media. We say, ah, they were probably not entirely at fault because they were brought up that way and of course, to avoid strained relations, pakikisama kumbaga. But I believe now, IT IS NOT ALWAYS the best way to just CONDONE that kind of behavior because they would think it's okay. We need to give them a piece of our minds IF WE WANT them to stop doing it.

And you say, what about the Ilocanos, the people from Batangas and Laguna who are also treated the same way. Well, I also ask the other way. Why do they just let it all pass? They are spoiling the Tagalogs (not all of course, but still several of them).
You know what, it is not that Cebuanos are so uptight and dead serious that we can't laugh at ourselves. We do. But there is a line crossed between plain fun and ridicule.
And boy, I think we have the chutzpah, enough balls to stand up against that kind of "civil" oppression. If other ethnic groups don't do it, well, WE WILL, and we are doing it.

Again, no offense really to those Tagalogs who are not of the kind we are talking about here.


Youre right @ bakasaurus....

Because, i am regularly in Manila naman.. And whenever i go, i always speak in Cebuano, even in store/ boutiques ( hehehe.. you know Slerz):lol:

But not in any case i did experienced being looked down.. In fairness, most of the Tagalogs i meet are even amazed and respectful.

" Uy taga Cebu ka, naku.. ang sarap ng lechon dun.... or nakarating na ako dun, ang ganda dun..... Uy ang ganda ng Waterfront.... or ang daming magaganda dun... etc.

So in fairness naman to the Tagalogs... who are well educated, ( mwg and RonnieR is right) most of them look to Cebuanos with high esteem and admiration... I personally experienced that....

So lets us not stereotype also that all Tagalogs are like that..

But they could not also deny the fact that there are really stereotyping against the Cebuanos and the Visayans in the Capital;.... and even well educated people do that... :) And sad to say, these are being manipulated and pushed in the media, especially portraying a Cebuano or an Ilonggo as a dumb "katulongs" in movies or tv sitcoms.... it is so distasteful and racist being a Visayan myself.

Zuburbia
September 8th, 2010, 05:13 PM
Youre right @ bakasaurus....

Because, i am regularly in Manila naman.. And whenever i go, i always speak in Cebuano, even in store/ boutiques ( hehehe.. you know Slerz):lol:

But not in any case i did not experienced being looked down.. In fairness, most of the Tagalogs i meet are even amazed...

" Uy taga Cebu ka, naku.. ang sarap ng lechon dun.... or nakarating na ako dun, ang ganda dun..... Uy ang ganda ng Waterfront.... or ang daming magaganda dun... etc.

So in fairness naman to the Tagalogs... who are well educated, ( mwg and RonnieR is right) most of them look to Cebuanos with high esteem and admiration... I personally experienced that....

So lets us not stereotype also that all Tagalogs are like that..

But they could not deny the fact that there are really stereotyping against the Cebuanos and the Visayans in the Capital;.... and even well educated people do that... :)

bitaw sakto ka henz..pero kasagaran jud...labi nang naa juy part sa luzon nga grabe jud, di lang tagalog, pero di nalang kay mosamot kagubot...hahaha!

ferny123
September 8th, 2010, 05:37 PM
Because of what the people of Manila are doing to us here in the south, thats the reason why The Philippines is being left behind by our neighboring ASEAN countries. The only thing that can help the Philippines overcome such adversities is for us to stop treating one another with hate or racial disgust. Only then will the words united we stand will truly be accomplished.


its not purely manila's fault. i dont have the right figures but i think 50% of people living in manila today are not native manileno's. they came from other parts of the country. and i think it also doesnt account those people who went to manila from other parts of the country before world war 2. so when you look at the big picture people in manila is a congregation of all ethnic backgrounds.

so if we use logic if manila is mixture of all people in the philippines; manila is the problem of the philippines therefore all the people in the philippines is the problem. its sounds wrong but i think its true.

ferny123
September 8th, 2010, 05:41 PM
from wikipedia

in the year 1903

The Malay population divided by language

* Christian (Mainly Roman Catholic)
o Visayan: 3,219,030
o Tagalog: 1,460,695
o Ilocano: 803,942
o Bicol: 566,635
o Pangasinan: 343,686
o Pampanga: 280,984
o Cagayan: 159,648
* Muslim
o Moro: 277,547
* Igorot
o Igorot: 211,520

ferny123
September 8th, 2010, 05:49 PM
wikipedia again

Ethnic groups

Tagalog 28.1%,
Cebuano 13.1%,
Ilocano 9%,
Bisaya/Binisaya 7.6%,
Hiligaynon Ilonggo 7.5%,
Bikol 6%,
Waray 3.4%,
Kapampangan 3%,
other 25.3%
(2000 census)

total bisaya is 20.8%

total tagalog is 28.1%
but it doesnt account the people who have ethnic roots in other parts of the philiipines i guess 40% of the total 28.1% tagalog ethnic count is mixed roots of coming from other ethnic backgrounds

cebuboi
September 8th, 2010, 06:14 PM
bitaw sakto na ni oy...PEACE na....kapoy sige balik2x mura ug plaka guba.....total we had already said piece...we already laid our cards... i think its time to move on...we have lost track of what this thread supposed to be...progress and developments na sad ta... kung naa gani mosingit ato na lang pasida-an nga ayaw na lang ug daghang kyaw kyaw pa back read na lang...kay kapoy ug explain unya mulang gihapon di kasabot...basin nya molanat pa ni usa ka semana nya wa ta agi kaskas lang ta sa panahon nya walay maani....kay walay makasabot o kaha dili gustong mosabot...SAKTO NAAAAAAAAA.....

MatudNilaBaby
September 8th, 2010, 06:23 PM
CEBU CITY - Night dwellers or people who sleep on Cebu City's sidewalks at night will be moved to block 27 of the North Reclamation Area. They will sleep in container vans. This move is part of the city's efforts to clean up Cebu City.

con makatulog na sila sa container van palutawon dayon sa lawod para malimpyo na gyud ang syudad:lol::lol::lol:

Jimbu
September 8th, 2010, 06:38 PM
Filinvest eyes investment at landfill (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=610407&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
By Garry B. Lao/JPM
(The Freeman)
Updated September 09, 2010

CEBU, Philippines – Filinvest Land Inc., the property unit of Taipan Andrew Gotianun Sr., expresses interest to invest on the construction and operation of a waste management facility and power plant in Cebu City.

Thinking of a possible joint venture agreement with the City Government, the Filinvest is eyeing a portion of what is now the Inayawan sanitary landfill as site for the new project.

FLI Director Andrew Gotianun Jr. disclosed that it submitted an unsolicited proposal to Mayor Michael Rama for a contractual or unincorporated joint venture project.

The City is spending close to P70 million a year for solid waste management, including the operation of garbage trucks and the maintenance of the landfill. The land-fill, designed and built by Japanese experts, was initially designed to last for 15 years or until 2003.

Gotianun said that the modern waste management technology that they will implement is being used widely in Germany, China and other countries.

With the initial capacity of at least 500 tons of waste per day, the plant will generate 20 MW of power. The 90 percent of the generated energy will be used by desalina-tion plant to convert seawater into fresh water through the reverse osmosis process to address Cebu City's water needs.

The total land requirement of their proposed project is five to 10 hectares. This will include the required buffer zone between the plant and residential areas. The sani-tary landfill has 17 hectares of land area.

The project, according to Gotianun, will utilize the most advanced boiler system, which is known as Fluidized Bed Boiler or Clean Coal Technology.

The technology has been approved by the Department of Environment and Natural Resources and is now being used in Toledo City, Gotianun said.

"We assure you that the project shall be made to conform to the most stringent environmental standards imposed by existing laws and regulations of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources," the proposal read.

Under the unsolicited proposal, the City Government and the Filinvest will undertake the project that will contribute a 25-year leasehold right, renewable for an addi-tional 20 years over a portion of the landfill site.

The project cost is estimated to reach US$30 million or between P1.3 billion to P1.4 billion.

The 35 percent will be financed by Filinvest and the City while the remaining 65 percent, by external borrowings.

Under the proposal, the term of the project is 25 years, renewable for another 20 years. At the end of the project term, it will be transferred to the city government.

Filinvest Land is one of the country's leading property developers with a diverse portfolio of real estate projects. The company has developed more than 2,000 hectares of land and created over 600,000 sq. m. of prime office, residential and retail spaces over the past four decades. (FREEMAN)

anabellerama
September 8th, 2010, 06:56 PM
pinoyexchange: cebu bashing thread (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=467102)

manilenos are having a feast bashing cebuanos.

no.1ta
September 8th, 2010, 07:10 PM
pinoyexchange: cebu bashing thread (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=467102)

manilenos are having a feast bashing cebuanos.

yeah wright, u manilenos always use your mouth not your brain, that's the fact!!! you guys dont wanna argue with that...:lol::lol::lol:

Wolfranz
September 8th, 2010, 07:14 PM
pinoyexchange: cebu bashing thread (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=467102)

manilenos are having a feast bashing cebuanos.

Let them. We will have our day.

diehardbisdak
September 8th, 2010, 07:42 PM
sa jacosalem st. man ni...centro maximo ngan sa building?


...exactly bai, that's Centro Maximo in Jakosalem Street

mwg12a
September 8th, 2010, 08:17 PM
Youre right @ bakasaurus....

Because, i am regularly in Manila naman.. And whenever i go, i always speak in Cebuano, even in store/ boutiques ( hehehe.. you know Slerz):lol:

But not in any case i did experienced being looked down.. In fairness, most of the Tagalogs i meet are even amazed and respectful.

" Uy taga Cebu ka, naku.. ang sarap ng lechon dun.... or nakarating na ako dun, ang ganda dun..... Uy ang ganda ng Waterfront.... or ang daming magaganda dun... etc.

So in fairness naman to the Tagalogs... who are well educated, ( mwg and RonnieR is right) most of them look to Cebuanos with high esteem and admiration... I personally experienced that....

So lets us not stereotype also that all Tagalogs are like that..

But they could not also deny the fact that there are really stereotyping against the Cebuanos and the Visayans in the Capital;.... and even well educated people do that... :) And sad to say, these are being manipulated and pushed in the media, especially portraying a Cebuano or an Ilonggo as a dumb "katulongs" in movies or tv sitcoms.... it is so distasteful and racist being a Visayan myself.

This is true and I agree with you. In any races in this world, there are those who are ignorant and insensitive. We should deal with it individually. I agree with you in the media considering in the media, there is a big mix of all filipinos, infact, there are movie personalities from Cebu, Bohol and such. You would think they would also make an effort to change these nonsense. Some of them speak in bisaya on national tv so definitely, you know they are a proud bisaya and their heritage.

And you say, what about the Ilocanos, the people from Batangas and Laguna who are also treated the same way. Well, I also ask the other way. Why do they just let it all pass? They are spoiling the Tagalogs (not all of course, but still several of them).
You know what, it is not that Cebuanos are so uptight and dead serious that we can't laugh at ourselves. We do. But there is a line crossed between plain fun and ridicule.
And boy, I think we have the chutzpah, enough balls to stand up against that kind of "civil" oppression. If other ethnic groups don't do it, well, WE WILL, and we are doing it.

They don't they fight back. They put their feet down to stop them. ( I should say "I" because my heritage is from outside Manila. Just like our cebuano brothers. Like I said, in media alone, there are varieties of well known talents from all over the Philippines and the Visayas. I think they are the ones who needed to initiate this drive.

diehardbisdak
September 8th, 2010, 08:21 PM
...in the pipeline:

"the story of Lapu-lapu in a movie (in Cebuano) will be topbilled by Manny Pacquiao"



:D

AmbutLang
September 8th, 2010, 08:53 PM
I think we have used or discuss our different point of views. Even in this fast communication age today, some people speak first and think after.
I hope this new administration will be more equitable to other provinces.

bakasaurus
September 9th, 2010, 02:17 AM
It's a new day! Hehe. Let's move this thread to a new direction!

Zuburbia
September 9th, 2010, 02:17 AM
ataka ana iyang link nga pinoy exchange oi..naa pay hing-ingon ngano kuno gipatunga ang monument ni magellan nya ang monument ni lapu-lapu naa kuno ra sa kilid...obviously nagpakita lang jud sa pagkakuwang analysis and spatial perception...wa siya kabantay nga naa sa atubangan gaatubang sa dakong kadagatan si Lapu lapu nya ang monument ni magellan naa ras likod! pagkabugo!:ohno::ohno:

Zuburbia
September 9th, 2010, 02:30 AM
bitaw move to new direction bai baka...usahay makapungot man gud...heehhe...kapoy nag tubay sa mga tawng superior! maghimo tag atong kaugalingon to make us feel superior within ourselves and as people, not superior among other group of people.. thats what the cebuanos been doing ever since, ang paglambo sa kaugalingong paningkamot!

now lets talk about development, the issues within cebu and the good things that made us proud as Cebuanos :banana:

SleMarKen
September 9th, 2010, 02:36 AM
Youre right @ bakasaurus....

Because, i am regularly in Manila naman.. And whenever i go, i always speak in Cebuano, even in store/ boutiques ( hehehe.. you know Slerz):lol:

But not in any case i did experienced being looked down.. In fairness, most of the Tagalogs i meet are even amazed and respectful.

" Uy taga Cebu ka, naku.. ang sarap ng lechon dun.... or nakarating na ako dun, ang ganda dun..... Uy ang ganda ng Waterfront.... or ang daming magaganda dun... etc.

So in fairness naman to the Tagalogs... who are well educated, ( mwg and RonnieR is right) most of them look to Cebuanos with high esteem and admiration... I personally experienced that....

So lets us not stereotype also that all Tagalogs are like that..

But they could not also deny the fact that there are really stereotyping against the Cebuanos and the Visayans in the Capital;.... and even well educated people do that... :) And sad to say, these are being manipulated and pushed in the media, especially portraying a Cebuano or an Ilonggo as a dumb "katulongs" in movies or tv sitcoms.... it is so distasteful and racist being a Visayan myself.


lol! and the sparkol / sparkel thing in Makati? :lol:
(Henz: meron ba kayong sparkol? Tindera: ano?, anong sparkol, di ko maintindihan. Henz: ay sayop. Again, again. Meron ba kayong sparkel?
Tindera: meron, ilan?) :lol:
Same with me when I was in Makati with Henz.


And also the Tagalogs I'm currently with now here, mababait naman pero minsan lang nga pag nagka salu salo na sila na wala kami, di pa din nila maiwasang mag salita against us. Pero ba't narinig ko pa kase, ayaw ko din talagang isipin na masama sila lol :ohno:

SleMarKen
September 9th, 2010, 02:50 AM
ataka ana iyang link nga pinoy exchange oi..naa pay hing-ingon ngano kuno gipatunga ang monument ni magellan nya ang monument ni lapu-lapu naa kuno ra sa kilid...obviously nagpakita lang jud sa pagkakuwang analysis and spatial perception...wa siya kabantay nga naa sa atubangan gaatubang sa dakong kadagatan si Lapu lapu nya ang monument ni magellan naa ras likod! pagkabugo!:ohno::ohno:

lol... ayawg tuo anang mga taw sa PEX, puro na mga bujo :lol:
Pexer man sad ko sa una pero di man ko bujo maong nibalhin ko :D

SleMarKen
September 9th, 2010, 03:05 AM
Let's move on
Let's Celebrate CEBU!
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mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 9th, 2010, 03:10 AM
You'd be surprised! That guy is telling you the truth, I don't think they are saying that just to fool you guys.



you know what sir @mwg, I have been to manila a couple of times already and i am not ignorant about it. to tell you honestly, there might be some who have high regards for Cebu, and I thanked them for having a clear picture of that but those positive remarks would only be up temporarily and eventually would fade away because it wouldn't match the negative remarks that is more abundant and stays much longer than we thought. :)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 9th, 2010, 03:15 AM
It's a new day! Hehe. Let's move this thread to a new direction!

right! its a brand new day! a holiday! :banana::banana::banana:

by the way, limpyo naman diay kaayo ang side sa fuente sa may mercury drug katong asa to daghan mamaligyaay og DVDs. wala na gyuy naninda sa gutter and ang uban nagpabilin kay dito lang gibutang sa may inner part sa aceras para dili ma-block ang view sa fuente which IMO is good. :cheers:

maytag magpadayon ang inaning mga maayong balita sa sunod pa nga mga adlaw. :)

Zuburbia
September 9th, 2010, 03:20 AM
right! its a brand new day! a holiday! :banana::banana::banana:

by the way, limpyo naman diay kaayo ang side sa fuente sa may mercury drug katong asa to daghan mamaligyaay og DVDs. wala na gyuy naninda sa gutter and ang uban nagpabilin kay dito lang gibutang sa may inner part sa aceras para dili ma-block ang view sa fuente which IMO is good. :cheers:

maytag magpadayon ang inaning mga maayong balita sa sunod pa nga mga adlaw. :)

hala sir ulahit kayo ka sir anjo.. taod2x naman na oi...hain kaha ka pirme gatripping ay...:lol::lol::lol:

Henz
September 9th, 2010, 03:24 AM
lol! and the sparkol / sparkel thing in Makati? :lol:
(Henz: meron ba kayong sparkol? Tindera: ano?, anong sparkol, di ko maintindihan. Henz: ay sayop. Again, again. Meron ba kayong sparkel?
Tindera: meron, ilan?) :lol:
Same with me when I was in Makati with Henz.


And also the Tagalogs I'm currently with now here, mababait naman pero minsan lang nga pag nagka salu salo na sila na wala kami, di pa din nila maiwasang mag salita against us. Pero ba't narinig ko pa kase, ayaw ko din talagang isipin na masama sila lol :ohno:


hahaha.... makakatawa jud ko, when i reminisce kadto nagkuyog ta slerz...
remember kadto didto tas sa Flip Flops store sa Glorieta, na all Cebuano jud akong pangutana sa tindera.... :lol: nagbawo intawn syag paminaw ug "try pag understand" pero in fairness naman.... wa jud sya mo reklamo...... and to think.. she even said... "ok lang po, try ko lang po inintidihin yung sinasabi ninyo".... she did not even request us to say in Tagalog.... :cheers:

IMO, let us focus na lang seguro in the good things, because as far as my experience is concerned being regularly in Manila.. never did i experienced being discriminated. Our company, a Cebu based company had been making in roads in Manila market, and i had been meeting alot of executives either pure Manileno or who came from different places in the country, and i always told them that i am a Cebuano and that our company is Cebu based.

Let us forgive na lang the ignorant... because they dont know what they do.. forgive Gloria Diaz since despite of the cheers and claps of the Cebuanos during the height of her popularity, she is still have a rancor against the us.. a truly consummated racist..:nuts:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 9th, 2010, 03:25 AM
hala sir ulahit kayo ka sir anjo.. taod2x naman na oi...hain kaha ka pirme gatripping ay...:lol::lol::lol:

maoba?! :doh:

hahahaha... :lol::lol::lol:
pasensya sir @rands, dugay dugay naman pud ko wala kasuroy sa fuente. pero oo, murag nahawan na to ang atubangan sa mercury drug pero katong opposite side sa skywalk katong dapit sa barber shop man siguro to kay naa pa man to sauna manindahay gihapon og DVDs og mani pero karon wala na gyud. :cheers:

Henz
September 9th, 2010, 03:26 AM
hala sir ulahit kayo ka sir anjo.. taod2x naman na oi...hain kaha ka pirme gatripping ay...:lol::lol::lol:

pirme naku na sya kit-an didto sa ubos sa bridge sa Mananga... ambot nag unsa na sya didto...:lol::lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 9th, 2010, 03:29 AM
Let us forgive na lang the ignorant... because they dont know what they do.. forgive Gloria Diaz since despite of the cheers and claps of the Cebuanos during the height of her popularity, she is still have a rancor against the us.. a truly consummated racist..:nuts:

my mom actually said to me that during the time diaz won the pageant, it was the height of america's successful landing on the moon. there was even a famous line before that says, "while the US conquered the moon, the philippines conquered the universe". :lol::lol::lol:

Henz
September 9th, 2010, 03:29 AM
Filinvest eyes investment at landfill (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=610407&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
By Garry B. Lao/JPM
(The Freeman)
Updated September 09, 2010

CEBU, Philippines – Filinvest Land Inc., the property unit of Taipan Andrew Gotianun Sr., expresses interest to invest on the construction and operation of a waste management facility and power plant in Cebu City.

Thinking of a possible joint venture agreement with the City Government, the Filinvest is eyeing a portion of what is now the Inayawan sanitary landfill as site for the new project.

FLI Director Andrew Gotianun Jr. disclosed that it submitted an unsolicited proposal to Mayor Michael Rama for a contractual or unincorporated joint venture project.

The City is spending close to P70 million a year for solid waste management, including the operation of garbage trucks and the maintenance of the landfill. The land-fill, designed and built by Japanese experts, was initially designed to last for 15 years or until 2003.

Gotianun said that the modern waste management technology that they will implement is being used widely in Germany, China and other countries.

With the initial capacity of at least 500 tons of waste per day, the plant will generate 20 MW of power. The 90 percent of the generated energy will be used by desalina-tion plant to convert seawater into fresh water through the reverse osmosis process to address Cebu City's water needs.

The total land requirement of their proposed project is five to 10 hectares. This will include the required buffer zone between the plant and residential areas. The sani-tary landfill has 17 hectares of land area.

The project, according to Gotianun, will utilize the most advanced boiler system, which is known as Fluidized Bed Boiler or Clean Coal Technology.

The technology has been approved by the Department of Environment and Natural Resources and is now being used in Toledo City, Gotianun said.

"We assure you that the project shall be made to conform to the most stringent environmental standards imposed by existing laws and regulations of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources," the proposal read.

Under the unsolicited proposal, the City Government and the Filinvest will undertake the project that will contribute a 25-year leasehold right, renewable for an addi-tional 20 years over a portion of the landfill site.

The project cost is estimated to reach US$30 million or between P1.3 billion to P1.4 billion.

The 35 percent will be financed by Filinvest and the City while the remaining 65 percent, by external borrowings.

Under the proposal, the term of the project is 25 years, renewable for another 20 years. At the end of the project term, it will be transferred to the city government.

Filinvest Land is one of the country's leading property developers with a diverse portfolio of real estate projects. The company has developed more than 2,000 hectares of land and created over 600,000 sq. m. of prime office, residential and retail spaces over the past four decades. (FREEMAN)


I am so elated with this very good news... Pagbasa pa lang naku sa news, morag akong dughan nagbuto buto sa kalipay..

I hope this gets approved immediately... It will surely erase the bad and foul image of the former inayawan landfill... :banana::banana:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 9th, 2010, 03:30 AM
pirme naku na sya kit-an didto sa ubos sa bridge sa Mananga... ambot nag unsa na sya didto...:lol::lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

mao gyud bro. nakigjam-jam sa mga tulisan og mga adik didto sa sitio kawatan! :lol::lol::lol:

pookhey
September 9th, 2010, 04:39 AM
con makatulog na sila sa container van palutawon dayon sa lawod para malimpyo na gyud ang syudad:lol::lol::lol:

Hahahahah...amaw

toffeechoy
September 9th, 2010, 04:42 AM
after a year and two months mag post ko balik....

since moving on stage na man ta about the topics against bisaya vs tagalog: let me just share this, mag 6 months nako dre sa baliuag bulacan (ahak man au dre man ko g-assign) and i must say they really have high regards w/ cebu especially our beaches and local food like lechon and chorizo (na hold gud kog kadyot sa airplane one time kay daghan au ko gdala chorizo pang pasalubong, because alot of them really request for it)...for sure though they do make fun w/ the accent especially w/ the interchangeable 'i' and 'e' and the laging galit accent that we have. siguro acceptance lang sa side natin na its just like that. diba? funny for them, normal for us. the same way as we the bisayas in manila make fun w/ their interchangeable 'f' and 'p' plus the 'b' and 'v'. (e.g. pifty fesos, comfly, peysbuk, seberiti) ... so i guess its just a matter of acceptance and living w/ it., besides who are we to judge? in the first place its not even our language (thus we dont really have all the right to correct each other)...un lang...nindot daw ang beaches dha sa cebu...makasuya daw, and i so agree.

welcome back to me lolz.

RonnieR
September 9th, 2010, 04:48 AM
:)


I believe there is already a growing grassroots move at federalism. I think there were moves by some politicians during the time of Gloria Arroyo and you can also see the great number of forumers with siggys bearing the federalist cause. Autonomy and Federalism are a better alternative.

Amusing. The more that Philippine Media, the current mindset we had spoken of earlier + the other kibitzers with their sarcastic remarks continue on as they are, the more they add fuel to Cebuano patriotism and the federalist cause. What dreams are made of.

:cheers:

Seriously, we should discuss what is bound within the law and our constitution. I was irked when you mentioned about the Balkanization - as if it was a sweet and easy move. I admit I read your posts because I find them sensible and you have a innate talent of giving light moment to a serious topic but topic about secession is really sensitive and against the law. The Moro rebels have been fighting for a separate state in Southern Mindanao for years - leaving hundreds of thousands dead. Look at ARMM, still impoverished. The State will fight at all costs to defend the Republic. Based on the news, MILF and RP will begin the peace talks. So many thorny issues.

This is my last post about the issue. I still love Cebu even if Slemarken hates the capital. :cheers:

MODS: Please bear with me if I post this. Thanks.
Remember Yugoslavia, Kosovo in 1990s. The images flashed on TV on the war between gov't troops and secessionist movements.

Allowing secession in multi-ethnic States ‘bad precedent’ at U.N., ‘produces instability’ — Serbia

March 18, 2010 10:14 pm

MANILA, March 18 —- The Republic of Serbia, the former Yugoslavia, has posited anew that any unilateral declaration of independence or secession — such as what its province of Kosovo did in 2008 – and its recognition by such powerful nations as the United States "sets a dangerous precedent" and demeans the process of dialogue and negotiations espoused by the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) and the United Nations as a whole.

H.E. Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic made this observation this afternoon in an informal meeting with journalists covering the Special Non-Aligned Movement Ministerial Meeting (SNAMMM) in interfaith dialogues and cooperation for peace and development, which ends Thursday. He advocated the same at the SNAMMM plenary.

Jeremic said he expressed the same position in his bilateral meeting on Wednesday with Philippine Foreign Secretary Alberto G. Romulo. “The issue dominated the meeting,” he added, as he noted that it is an issue of secession that bears similarity with that in Mindanao.

”But Serbia is happy that the Philippines did not recognize the Kosovo secessionist move,” he told reporters, with the Government knowing fully well that to have done so was to have devalued Manila’s dialogue process on Mindanao.

In a separate conversation on the issue of separatism, United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) President Treki told the Philippines News Agency that he does “not think that anyone will bring it to U.N. attention” but that he “himself would encourage more and more dialogues and patient understanding.” He was referring to Libya-brokered peace talks in Mindanao involving Muslims.

Jeremic, who headed his delegation to the meeting, also reminded that the defunct Yugoslavia is one of the four founding-countries of NAM, when the late Marshall Josef Tito was its leader. The first NAM Summit was held in the Serbian capital of Belgrade.

Jeremic said he hopes that the 50th anniversary of that historic meeting will be celebrated next year, which the city plans on hosting, to be coordinated by current NAM chair Egypt. “We are proud of the role that we played in the shaping of NAM,” the 35-year-old Foreign Minister said.

He said in the plenary address that the 2011 gathering “would be a fitting tribute to the bequest left to us by the founders of the Non-Aligned Movement. Belgrade is a city generations of NAM members recall with great fondness — a city where a tangible stamp on the 20th century was made.”

However, the new Republic of Serbia did not inherit Yugoslavia’s NAM regular membership and Serbia is at present an observer-country of the NAM.

In the aftermath of the breakup of Eastern Europe, when the so-called Cold War Era ended around 1991, Yugoslavia became Serbia-Montenegro, and split further into the present Republic of Serbia.

And then in 2008, as Jeremic narrated it, the southern province of Kosovo with a majority population of two million ethnic Albanians, many of them Muslims, came out with a Unilateral Declaration of Independence (UDI). Jeremic called this an “illegal attempt…to change the borders of Serbia.”

Kosovo’s UDI was readily embraced by such powers as the United States (“the last biggest blunder of the President Bush administration,” he interjected), France and the United Kingdom—all Permanent Members of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC). U.S. allies such as South Korea and Japan also recognized Kosovo.

Surprisingly, Malaysia, which facilitates current peace talks negotiations between the Philippine Government and the secessionist Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), also supported Kosovo independence.

The two other UNSC permanents, China and Russia, did not recognize Kosovo. Jeremic further said “80 percent of NAM’s (118-strong) membership such as Indonesia, India, Pakistan, Brazil, Egypt and South Africa,” allied against recognition.

In his plenary address, Jeremic said his country has brought the issue to the UNGA for the International Court of Justice (ICJ) “to rule on the legality of Kosovo’s attempt at secession.”

The ICJ’s ruling is expected this year, and Jeremic said he is “very optimistic” that the ICJ will rule in Serbia’s favor.

Addressing the NAM delegations and the UN as well, Jeremic pointed out that “it is crucial that you maintain your principle stance (of dialogue and principled negotiations in peacemaking), for this case will constitute a strong precedent.”

This will be the first such case brought before the ICJ and the result, Jeremic said, will determine how the defiance of a country’s national Constitution by an ethnic minority and the partition of a UN member-State in peacetime will be looked at.

A negative ICJ ruling would “truly set a bad precedent,” which goes against the grain of the UNSC, Jeremic repeated.

“Imagine how many countries represented in this chamber would be affected by the legitimization of secession? The borders of every multi-ethnic state could be threatened, producing instability in all parts of the globe,” he said. (PNAfeature)

V3/LAP/GJB http://balita.ph/2010/03/18/allowing-secession-in-multi-ethnic-states-bad-precedent-at-u-n-produces-instability-serbia/

Zuburbia
September 9th, 2010, 04:59 AM
^^
para hindi mangyayari yan the government must be fair and should not only focus in developing the capital and luzon, and neglecting the other parts of the country... nangyayari ang gulo sa mindanao dahil na rin sa kapabayaan nang sentralisadong panggobyerno nang pilipinas..

last nalang ha: GO GO Go for federalism! hahahaha:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Eastern Dragon
September 9th, 2010, 05:04 AM
ethnically and culturally, it would be difficult for the philippines to be segregated, but in the same manner where in the US has a federal form of government, it also should be pursued.

in terms of national defense and police forces, there should always remain of course a national armed forces, but in terms of administration, especially delivery of social aid and economic undertaking, there should be autonomy.

just like my example, why is it required for someone in zamboanga city to get a tax ruling all the way from quezon city just to enter into a a joint venture?

a bureaucrat in quezon city deciding on the fate of a business venture in zamboanga?

Daizuke
September 9th, 2010, 05:40 AM
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Hahaha! Ahaka sa imong Avatar oi! :nuts::nuts: Thanks doy!

Henz
September 9th, 2010, 06:55 AM
For me.. No to Separation.... I still want Cebu to part of the Philippines because i still love being a Filipino despite of our imperfection we are still unique as a race...

But YES to Federalism... Its about time Cebuanos shall have a say on charting its own destiny.... through this, we will not just be dependent on the meager share in IRA. Cebu has a lot of potential to become a tiger economy, and if ever that will happen, its not just the Vismin people who will be benefited but as well as MM since, people in Vismin will not anymore go to MM to start a living...

In addition, nearby cities in Vismin, will also experienced its full development potentials since development in Cebu will surely spread.

leylander
September 9th, 2010, 07:30 AM
OSMEÑA DAY


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4085/4973347902_a51aa7e0bf.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4973347276_901cabeed2.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4126/4972732241_6b51b909cf.jpg

SPOTTED! Sir zids!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/4973348518_e93c31d4f4.jpg

Maxxclip
September 9th, 2010, 07:31 AM
ethnically and culturally, it would be difficult for the philippines to be segregated, but in the same manner where in the US has a federal form of government, it also should be pursued.

in terms of national defense and police forces, there should always remain of course a national armed forces, but in terms of administration, especially delivery of social aid and economic undertaking, there should be autonomy.

just like my example, why is it required for someone in zamboanga city to get a tax ruling all the way from quezon city just to enter into a a joint venture?

a bureaucrat in quezon city deciding on the fate of a business venture in zamboanga?


Adapting the Theory of Decentralization for Developing Countries (http://people.bu.edu/dilipm/ec722/papers/28-s05bardhan.pdf)

It is quite plausible to argue that in the matter of service deliveries as well as in local business development, control rights in governance structures should be assigned to people who have the requisite information and incentives and at the same time will bear responsibility for the (political and economic) consequences of their decisions. In many situations, this insight calls for more devolution of power to local authorities and communities. But at the same time, it is important to keep in mind that structures of local accountability are not in place in many developing countries, and local governments are often at the mercy of local power elites who may frustrate the goal of achieving public delivery to the general populace of social services, infrastructural facilities and conditions conducive to local business development. This means that decentralization, to be really effective, has to accompany serious attempts to change the existing structures of power within communities and to improve the opportunities for participation and voice and engaging the hitherto disadvantaged or disenfranchised in the political process. After all, the logic behind decentralization is not just about weakening the central authority, nor is it about preferring local elites to central authority, but it is fundamentally about making governance at the local level more responsive to the felt needs of the large majority of the population.

zidlakan
September 9th, 2010, 08:09 AM
OSMEÑA DAY

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4973347276_901cabeed2.jpg

had a short but nice discussion re: her privilege speech in congress ... :lol::lol::lol:

OSMEÑA DAY

SPOTTED! Sir zids!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/4973348518_e93c31d4f4.jpg

waaaaa, paparazzi!

SleMarKen
September 9th, 2010, 08:10 AM
For me.. No to Separation.... I still want Cebu to part of the Philippines because i still love being a Filipino despite of our imperfection we are still unique as a race...

But YES to Federalism... Its about time Cebuanos shall have a say on charting its own destiny.... through this, we will not just be dependent on the meager share in IRA. Cebu has a lot of potential to become a tiger economy, and if ever that will happen, its not just the Vismin people who will be benefited but as well as MM since, people in Vismin will not anymore go to MM to start a living...

In addition, nearby cities in Vismin, will also experienced its full development potentials since development in Cebu will surely spread.

lol, nituo sad diay ka nga guto silang mo separate coz they do not love being a filipino anymore? lol. Kung mao sad na ilang rason, ako'y unang mo dok dok sa ilang mga bagol bagol...



Seriously, we should discuss what is bound within the law and our constitution. I was irked when you mentioned about the Balkanization - as if it was a sweet and easy move. I admit I read your posts because I find them sensible and you have a innate talent of giving light moment to a serious topic but topic about secession is really sensitive and against the law. The Moro rebels have been fighting for a separate state in Southern Mindanao for years - leaving hundreds of thousands dead. Look at ARMM, still impoverished. The State will fight at all costs to defend the Republic. Based on the news, MILF and RP will begin the peace talks. So many thorny issues.

This is my last post about the issue. I still love Cebu even if Slemarken hates the capital. :cheers:




yeah, why hate Cebu... My bad attitude doesn't represent the whole Cebuano race though. This is just me you can salvage anytime coz of what you read about my post....lol

SleMarKen
September 9th, 2010, 08:15 AM
CEBU GRAND OLD MAN HONORED TODAY: Don Sergio Osmeña's 132nd B-day

Sergio Osmeña y Suico (September 9, 1878 – October 19, 1961) was 4th and the second President of the Commonwealth of the Philippines. He was Vice President under Manuel L. Quezon, and rose to the presidency upon Quezon's death in 1944. He was a founder of Nacionalista Pa...rty.

zubuwood
September 9th, 2010, 08:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPkom6zF_Lc

Sampit ta pirme kang Senyor Sto. Nino para sa kalamboan sa Sugbo og sa tibook nasod.

Eastern Dragon
September 9th, 2010, 08:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPkom6zF_Lc

Sampit ta pirme kang Senyor Sto. Nino para sa kalamboan sa Sugbo og sa tibook nasod.

one of the most fascinating aspects of our faith and culture as cebuanos. :banana::banana::banana:

something so difficult to find somewhere else. :banana:

Eastern Dragon
September 9th, 2010, 08:34 AM
Adapting the Theory of Decentralization for Developing Countries (http://people.bu.edu/dilipm/ec722/papers/28-s05bardhan.pdf)

It is quite plausible to argue that in the matter of service deliveries as well as in local business development, control rights in governance structures should be assigned to people who have the requisite information and incentives and at the same time will bear responsibility for the (political and economic) consequences of their decisions. In many situations, this insight calls for more devolution of power to local authorities and communities. But at the same time, it is important to keep in mind that structures of local accountability are not in place in many developing countries, and local governments are often at the mercy of local power elites who may frustrate the goal of achieving public delivery to the general populace of social services, infrastructural facilities and conditions conducive to local business development. This means that decentralization, to be really effective, has to accompany serious attempts to change the existing structures of power within communities and to improve the opportunities for participation and voice and engaging the hitherto disadvantaged or disenfranchised in the political process. After all, the logic behind decentralization is not just about weakening the central authority, nor is it about preferring local elites to central authority, but it is fundamentally about making governance at the local level more responsive to the felt needs of the large majority of the population.

the essence of one of my earlier posts. decentralization will force local leaders to be more accountable and the local electorate to be more responsible, both as citizens and in their choices of local leaders.

with the advent of new media, information is more accessible thereby giving citizens a wider source of data and hence choices.

Mercato
September 9th, 2010, 08:37 AM
Seriously, we should discuss what is bound within the law and our constitution. I was irked when you mentioned about the Balkanization - as if it was a sweet and easy move. I admit I read your posts because I find them sensible and you have a innate talent of giving light moment to a serious topic but topic about secession is really sensitive and against the law. The Moro rebels have been fighting for a separate state in Southern Mindanao for years - leaving hundreds of thousands dead. Look at ARMM, still impoverished. The State will fight at all costs to defend the Republic. Based on the news, MILF and RP will begin the peace talks. So many thorny issues.

This is my last post about the issue. I still love Cebu even if Slemarken hates the capital. :cheers:

MODS: Please bear with me if I post this. Thanks.
Remember Yugoslavia, Kosovo in 1990s. The images flashed on TV on the war between gov't troops and secessionist movements.

Allowing secession in multi-ethnic States ‘bad precedent’ at U.N., ‘produces instability’ — Serbia

March 18, 2010 10:14 pm

MANILA, March 18 —- The Republic of Serbia, the former Yugoslavia, has posited anew that any unilateral declaration of independence or secession — such as what its province of Kosovo did in 2008 – and its recognition by such powerful nations as the United States "sets a dangerous precedent" and demeans the process of dialogue and negotiations espoused by the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) and the United Nations as a whole.

H.E. Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic made this observation this afternoon in an informal meeting with journalists covering the Special Non-Aligned Movement Ministerial Meeting (SNAMMM) in interfaith dialogues and cooperation for peace and development, which ends Thursday. He advocated the same at the SNAMMM plenary.

Jeremic said he expressed the same position in his bilateral meeting on Wednesday with Philippine Foreign Secretary Alberto G. Romulo. “The issue dominated the meeting,” he added, as he noted that it is an issue of secession that bears similarity with that in Mindanao. When the former governor of Cebu ordered all schools to sing the Yutang Tabunon, that act according to the Constitution was illegal and tantamount to sedition. Was Mercato responsible for that? Manila thundered and roared, then Manila froze. Why? :)

Is a Thai-Philippine War going to be any less bloody and gory then? Or a Vietnam-Philippine War I wonder? :lol:

Seriously, you need to take a chill pill.:chill: If all things were to be taken literally then all of us would have to be nailed to crosses each Lent to atone for sins, literally and with huge nails. :goodnight

Do pray tell, what of that article about Southern Europe? :| It is remarkable that you should take Serbia as an example and take sides with an oppressive and genocidal state with a number of its leaders tried for genocide in the Hague. The Kosovo you mentioned is now recognised by the Western Democracies- the USA, the UK & France + South Korea & Japan in 2008. China expressed concern but made no move, the EU itself was quiet but many of the neighbouring Southern European States recognised it. Although the case is still pending I hear yonder at the ICJ. In 2006, Montenegro also declared independence over the vehement objections of Serbia. :yes:

For the simple reason that the people of Kosovo and Montenegro want freedom and the right to self determination - democracy. Do you deny those fundamental human rights to these people? Quite telling of your undemocratic frame of thought, I kid thee not. ;)

Of course Malaysia would take the side of Kosovo because the people of Kosovo are Sunni Muslim. Serbia is Greek Orthodox. Most of the rest of the new independent states are Greek Orthodox. The other sister states of Kosovo and Montenegro declared independence a long time ago. To wit, Croatia, Slovenia, Macedonia, Bosnia & Herzegovina. :)

You have an innate talent as well for taking things literally when it suits you. That was just a hypothetical response to the query posed at hand. I had already told you those were mere random musings, more metaphorical rather than literal. :D What if I were also to take literally you and your best friend’s penchant for declaring war on other countries? :guns1: To wit, your innate talent for flamebaiting the Thais and trying to start a Thai-Philippine War yonder at the ASEAN Thread last month I believe? If things were to come to a literal head, would you consider an actual Thai-Philippine War less bloody and more vainglorious just because of extreme “nationalism”? :angel: Oh please. If I were to count the cost of a Thai Philippine War, why worry? All I need to do is hire an accountant. :| :lol:

One of you guys should run for Congress and file the bill for Federalism or a HK like set up, one country, two system. :DWhat is wrong with that quote in response to wildfrangipani in followup to her suggestions on the Hongkong SAR? :dunno: Autonomy and Federalism.
Is it not so that the Hongkong SAR is in fact Autonomous and closely resembling that of the Federal system?
Is it not so that the Hongkong SAR is still within the legal boundaries of Mainland China?
If the HongKong system is still too drastic, then by all means a normal Federal System should suffice.

Is it not so that the Federal system is what most of the Southerners yearn for?
Is Federalism illegal or is the aspiration towards a Federal system illegal?
Is it illegal to pursue Federalism within the current political system?
Is it not so that you yourself agreed to a Federal System? The discussions of things about Federalism are best tackled yonder at Congress, I believe. :yes: we do not want independence, just autonomy.

we do not want to be dictated by people who don't give a hoot to how we run our economy yet receive the largesse from our hard work. I concur

***

Henceforth, I suggest you think out your thoughts more thoroughly before launching on those wild accusations and diatribes.
pinoyexchange: cebu bashing thread (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=467102)

manilenos are having a feast bashing cebuanos.At first I found these kind of posts extremely offensive. :ohno: That to include the hundreds of Youtube videos about Sakal, Sakali Kasal 2007 and the Gloria Diaz episodes and the Boy Abunda interviews. But since a number of the Northerners are adamantly arrogant, stubborn and unyielding to the point of being deceptive even, one can only do so much against the Great Wall of Chauvinism. :) Then I thought, the more these people carry on as they are, the more fuel they add and the more that Cebuano patriotism is kindled and awakened. … And Mercato gets the blame for all that? :)
Precisely! Only Mercato has that impression that is so moronic. He is trying to resurrect that dead idea on how the people in Luzon look at Cebu or Cebuanos. I noted that your style of mockery towards the Thais comes in the form of persistent unending postings of all the negative news regarding them. When they confronted you, you merely shrugged that those news were factual and in the limelight. Like when Gloria Diaz offended us 2x in a row, (I thought lightning only struck once), she merely shrugged it off and said she was misquoted. Same styles, same frames of thought. Hmmm, most interesting, isn’t it? :lol:

When you mocked Slerz yonder at the ASEAN thread and told him in jest something like, Bakit, di ka ba marunong makipag-debate? I-smile mo lang sabay bow. Why Heavens no, we can also have an English version of that as well. Ajajajaja. :lol: You must also learn to take a dose of your own medicine. Now why don’t you put up your best smile, then take a bow. See, it’s much gentler said in English. :colgate: In crisp British English.

Mercato
September 9th, 2010, 08:40 AM
In fairness to @bai mwg, he is the only one thus far amongst the Northern visitors who had acknowledged the Gloria D mistake and the mindset we had spoken of earlier. I am also glad our Ylonggo brethren are supportive. :)

All the rest of the “friends” and visitors had chosen to keep quiet on the issue, for reasons we have yet to fathom. :)

Some of our visitors cannot even disguise their contempt for Cebuanos. :)Yeah, Supertyphoon Ruping in 1990. Good thing Lito Osmena was the governor when no help from the national government assisted Cebu after a great devastation. The most destructive typhoon in the Philippines before Ondoy and Pepeng.
“Diplomats are useful only in fair weather. As soon as it rains they drown in every drop.”
Charles de Gaulle quotes (French general, writer and statesman, 1890-1970)

That is a quote about Fair Weather Friends. Now what did we all learn in school about Fair Weather Friends? :lol: :lol: :lol:

RonnieR
September 9th, 2010, 09:07 AM
^^ I actually find your post amusing, with a slice of entertainment esp. about that Gloria Diaz bruhaha. :lol: I didn't know that it became an issue at Congress.

It's good that I understand Cebuano otherwise, you would have subjected me with unpleasant remarks . I translated that post before....:)

What goes around, comes around.

Chill.

Mercato
September 9th, 2010, 09:43 AM
^^ I actually find your post amusing, with a slice of entertainment esp. about that Gloria Diaz bruhaha. :lol: I didn't know that it became an issue at Congress.

It's good that I understand Cebuano otherwise, you would have subjected me with unpleasant remarks . I translated that post before....:)

What goes around, comes around.

Chill. Just as I thought. So much for his promised last post on the issue. :lol:

What goes around, comes around is a double-edged sword and is actually what the Northern Culture of Chauvinism is reaping these days. I used that on your comrade Fraulein pages ago. :lol:

from_antipolo
September 9th, 2010, 09:51 AM
Good day guys, I come in peace (parang star wars). :D

yeah, we are trying to come up with a big event slated for december of this year and the event will be held at The Grove Rockwell in Pasig City (along C-5 right across Tiendesitas).

Event shall include:

1. Guest Speaker
- Candidates: Carlos Celdran, NEDA people or Pagcor.

(Latter would be difficult to request but not impossible, I have client from Travellers, Inc from Genting Berhad, he may be interested, will propose if we are sure)

2. Progress updates of infra and realty updates across the country
- if this will push thru, 3min presentation will be ok from each region...

3. SSC Grand EB mixer/SSC Philippines Awarding or Raffle
- cocktails will be served

we need the numbers guys. this is for everyone. thanks!

please go over to this page if you could attend or not. please don't think about how much are the contributions because this is just a one-night event (if you have relatives here, that's free lodging) and if we could pledge a lot of possible attendees, we will get corporate sponsorship.

we have a poll at the start of the thread. please vote if you could come or not. thanks!

here's the link to the thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1208471).

RonnieR
September 9th, 2010, 10:23 AM
Just as I thought. So much for his promised last post on the issue. :lol:



My post was not about the issue but on how I was amused and entertained by you.:nuts:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 9th, 2010, 10:29 AM
Filinvest eyes investment at landfill (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=610407&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
By Garry B. Lao/JPM
(The Freeman)
Updated September 09, 2010

CEBU, Philippines – Filinvest Land Inc., the property unit of Taipan Andrew Gotianun Sr., expresses interest to invest on the construction and operation of a waste management facility and power plant in Cebu City.

Thinking of a possible joint venture agreement with the City Government, the Filinvest is eyeing a portion of what is now the Inayawan sanitary landfill as site for the new project.

FLI Director Andrew Gotianun Jr. disclosed that it submitted an unsolicited proposal to Mayor Michael Rama for a contractual or unincorporated joint venture project.

The City is spending close to P70 million a year for solid waste management, including the operation of garbage trucks and the maintenance of the landfill. The land-fill, designed and built by Japanese experts, was initially designed to last for 15 years or until 2003.

Gotianun said that the modern waste management technology that they will implement is being used widely in Germany, China and other countries.

With the initial capacity of at least 500 tons of waste per day, the plant will generate 20 MW of power. The 90 percent of the generated energy will be used by desalina-tion plant to convert seawater into fresh water through the reverse osmosis process to address Cebu City's water needs.

The total land requirement of their proposed project is five to 10 hectares. This will include the required buffer zone between the plant and residential areas. The sani-tary landfill has 17 hectares of land area.

The project, according to Gotianun, will utilize the most advanced boiler system, which is known as Fluidized Bed Boiler or Clean Coal Technology.

The technology has been approved by the Department of Environment and Natural Resources and is now being used in Toledo City, Gotianun said.

"We assure you that the project shall be made to conform to the most stringent environmental standards imposed by existing laws and regulations of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources," the proposal read.

Under the unsolicited proposal, the City Government and the Filinvest will undertake the project that will contribute a 25-year leasehold right, renewable for an addi-tional 20 years over a portion of the landfill site.

The project cost is estimated to reach US$30 million or between P1.3 billion to P1.4 billion.

The 35 percent will be financed by Filinvest and the City while the remaining 65 percent, by external borrowings.

Under the proposal, the term of the project is 25 years, renewable for another 20 years. At the end of the project term, it will be transferred to the city government.

Filinvest Land is one of the country's leading property developers with a diverse portfolio of real estate projects. The company has developed more than 2,000 hectares of land and created over 600,000 sq. m. of prime office, residential and retail spaces over the past four decades. (FREEMAN)

WOW! i missed this one!

this is absolutely good news! at least matagad na gyud ang Inayawan landfill. crucial kaayo ni siya kay duol biya gyud kaayo ni siya sa Citta di Mare! unsaon na lang kung pwerteng nindota sa lugar unya ang baho sa landfill muabot didto. giahaks nalang! :lol::nuts:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 9th, 2010, 10:32 AM
Marian feast draws shrine crowds
Thursday, September 9, 2010
SunStar Cebu


EUGENE Millan, 29, was among thousands who visited the Marian shrine in Simala, Sibonga town yesterday.

He goes there every year to celebrate the birthday of the Blessed Virgin Mary and every 13th day of the month, as his devotion to Our Lady of Fatima.

But his visit yesterday was special, as he was there with his wife, Buena Ybay-Millan, 28, who is pregnant with their first child.

The safe pregnancy of his wife and the health of their unborn child were among the petitions he carried with him.

Cebu Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal, who led the Pontifical Mass yesterday morning, told reporters he did not notice whether the number of devotees dropped this year.

The caretakers of the shrine, Marian Monks of the Eucharistic Adoration, were involved in a controversy last year when a former member accused his colleagues of misconduct and corruption, among other issues.

“That’s the history of the church. We cannot expect to be always high. There are times when we are a little bit down,” the cardinal said.

He also preached there is no need for the devotees to search for miracles.

“We do not need miracles. What we should do is open our eyes to faith and open our hands to mercy so we can help, as much as we can, the poor,” he said in his sermon.

In an interview, he said, “There is no need for miracles. Sometimes we are here for miracles; we would like to witness miracles, but these are not necessary for our faith.”

“Miracles are used by God as instruments, to strengthen us,” he added.

A few months after a libel case filed against him and other church leaders, in relation to the controversy, was dismissed, Cardinal Vidal said he was back at the shrine to “express gratefulness to the Lord.”

“I have to go on to tell the people (that) with faith, we have to go on with joy and courage,” he told reporters.

“On the occasion of expressing our joy and the occasion of her birthday, we are here.

At the same time, we would like the people to pray the rosary, according to the message of Our Lady of Fatima,” he added.

For devotees like Millan, the controversy wasn’t even in the picture.

“I visit the shrine to pray here, not for any other reason,” said Millan.

Vendor May Semilla, who sells bottled oil at the entrance to the shrine, admitted sales slowed down when the controversy started.

“But we recovered after a few months,” she said.

Semilla has been selling oil for the past 10 years at the same site. She also observed that there was no difference in the number of devotees who went to the site yesterday.

“The lines are more orderly this year; there are more policemen who helped,” she said. (BAP)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 9th, 2010, 10:35 AM
Tourism industry will recover: Plantation Bay GM
Tuesday, September 7, 2010
SunStar Cebu


DESPITE cancellations of bookings by tourists after the recent bloody hostage-taking in Manila, a tourism industry player in Cebu has expressed optimism the industry will soon recover from what he described as “a temporary crisis.”

Plantation Bay Resort and Spa general manager Efren Belarmino told reporters yesterday that the recent crisis is more manageable compared with the 1998 Asian financial crisis that affected many businesses, including hotels and resorts.

“We will all soon recover,” he said.

Plantation Bay Resort and Spa sales manager Stephanie Grace Trocio said about 164 room nights were cancelled since the incident in Manila. But she said that the cancellations are just temporary as they are seeing the business pick up with the approaching holidays.

Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, China and America as well as the domestic markets are among
the top markets of the hotel.

Belarmino, meanwhile, also announced the company’s recognition by the Social Security System (SSS) as top employer in Central Visayas under the medium-sized category. The award was given earlier this month.

The award is given yearly to employers who have complied with SSS requirements.

Promotion

Belarmino said the award was timely as it will help promote the hotel from the lingering effects of the recent hostage incident. He said the award is an affirmation that they are taking care of their employees and that the hotel is delivering good service to its clients. Plantation Bay currently employs 400 workers.

He said the hotel also received recognition from the Lapu-Lapu City Government for being one of the top taxpayers in the city for 2009.

On top of these, Trocio also reported that the hotel is undergoing improvements. “We are currently upgrading our facilities to keep up with the market competition,” she
said.

She said the hotel has recently expanded the number of its rooms from 225 to 256.

Jarenz
September 9th, 2010, 10:52 AM
cebuano should support its own local cebu channels ! to make it big and compete with the abias cbn ..

Wishful thinking:|

Bigfoot Entertainment Channel, aired nationally with English and Cebuano language. . .



State flag is similar sa avatar ni fleshisweak. If not, we can adopt the Bonnie Blue Flag of the old Confederates (blue background with a single white star), I think you've seen it... Nasudnong awit, if I become dictator it will be Tierra Adorada. If not, then Yutang Tabunon. :lol:



will be seeing future Cebu State Flag waving 20 years after . . .


we cebuanos should not decide for the whole visayas. dapat tanan mga taga visayas mka decide. basin m.imperial cebu ra unya ta within the visayan state...

but for me the federal states could be based on the regions... i think mas dali na siya.

pwede pud whole Visayas & Mindanao

I Hope in my lifetime na mahitabo matinood dyud ning REPUBLIC OF CEBU :)

:soon:

Im not proud of my capital city.

same :storm:

Diba one time in our history there is a Cebuano president? Bakit kaya hindi siya ang sisihin niyo?

bakit namin siya sisihin?!

ang dami nga niya contribution to the beloved place

Let them. We will have our day.

aabangan ko yan . . . :lol:

after a year and two months mag post ko balik....

welcome back to me lolz.

Welcome Sir :wave: :)

Eastern Dragon
September 9th, 2010, 11:12 AM
nindot na naa ta flag, similar sad sa flag sa US nga ang motto, do not tread on me.

tanawa si magellan, gatuga tuga ug subjugate sa cebuano. piti hinoon, aw kirig diay.

kay natigbasan man. :lol::lol:

Jarenz
September 9th, 2010, 11:20 AM
^^ Philippines 20 years after will be different na . . .

An organized country, progressive, and vibrant economy composed of different states and will be lead by individual same as Gibo's intellect and plan, not like by our current cartoon character "President Homer Simpson" na ga-tingsi lang dagway ug pirmi tulala or should i say, always absent minded and day dreaming :ohno:

MatudNilaBaby
September 9th, 2010, 12:19 PM
Tourism industry will recover: Plantation Bay GM
Tuesday, September 7, 2010
SunStar Cebu


DESPITE cancellations of bookings by tourists after the recent bloody hostage-taking in Manila, a tourism industry player in Cebu has expressed optimism the industry will soon recover from what he described as “a temporary crisis.”

Plantation Bay Resort and Spa general manager Efren Belarmino told reporters yesterday that the recent crisis is more manageable compared with the 1998 Asian financial crisis that affected many businesses, including hotels and resorts.

“We will all soon recover,” he said.

Plantation Bay Resort and Spa sales manager Stephanie Grace Trocio said about 164 room nights were cancelled since the incident in Manila. But she said that the cancellations are just temporary as they are seeing the business pick up with the approaching holidays.

Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, China and America as well as the domestic markets are among
the top markets of the hotel.

Belarmino, meanwhile, also announced the company’s recognition by the Social Security System (SSS) as top employer in Central Visayas under the medium-sized category. The award was given earlier this month.

The award is given yearly to employers who have complied with SSS requirements.

Promotion

Belarmino said the award was timely as it will help promote the hotel from the lingering effects of the recent hostage incident. He said the award is an affirmation that they are taking care of their employees and that the hotel is delivering good service to its clients. Plantation Bay currently employs 400 workers.

He said the hotel also received recognition from the Lapu-Lapu City Government for being one of the top taxpayers in the city for 2009.

On top of these, Trocio also reported that the hotel is undergoing improvements. “We are currently upgrading our facilities to keep up with the market competition,” she
said.

She said the hotel has recently expanded the number of its rooms from 225 to 256.

unsa diay tong mga hostage nga nangamatay? according to bbc reports today that the police commandos could have killed those hostages and not fired by the hostage taker himself based on forensic results. if so lain na sad nang kabobohan sa mga pnb.

BAKLANGCEBU
September 9th, 2010, 12:27 PM
what's a regional war?

ncr vs region 7 he he he

SleMarKen
September 9th, 2010, 12:50 PM
I wanna see them soon...
The CEBU FLASH MOBBERS

SM Northwing May 2010
dpxzvc8ehBQ


Flash Mob dancing was born in New york last 2003.
In Cebu, we have the Cebu Flash Mobbers...:okay:

Mercato
September 9th, 2010, 01:00 PM
I admit I read your posts because I find them sensible and you have a innate talent of giving light moment to a serious topic^^ I actually find your post amusing, with a slice of entertainment

It's good that I understand Cebuano otherwise, you would have subjected me with unpleasant remarks . I translated that post before....:) Indeed, the pleasure is all mine. Of course, I’m sensible. Glad to note your radar isn’t sophisticated enough to detect British double meanings/doble entendres artistically entwined in humour. :D

Aaah, was it that one where you got mad at one forista for criticising Makati and you also got mad at one City official for praising Makati? :| To be or not to be, to criticise or to praise, the contradiction is spellbinding. :lol: :lol:
Good day guys, I come in peace (parang star wars). :D Hola chico que tal … Say I remember you, weren’t you at the helm of the cheering squad for that Dumbest member of the bubble gang? Can’t you speak straight English for once minus the sanggano nuances? Or can you? You two must be close. Not too close for comfort, I hope? :lol: :lol: :lol:

But in any event since I am in such a jovial british mood today, Bienvenidos al Foro. :colgate:

Bhan Jojo Ngoi
September 9th, 2010, 01:01 PM
Naa man sad nag flash dance sa Terraces pag Sabado, pero wala pay nag upload sa Youtube, naa ra sa facebook ang video,,
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1619710455647&ref=mf

ting
September 9th, 2010, 01:45 PM
delusional cebuanos :ohno:

pa republic2x of cebu pa mo unya dili man gani ninyo ma manage ug tarong ang mga kalakaran sa cebu city mismo :lol:

your streets and sidewalks stinks.. your environment is so polluted.. your streets reek of urban decay and danger.. your bus terminals makes even the hardy promdi puke.. tapos republic of cebu pa? sige hirit pa :lol:

Henz
September 9th, 2010, 01:50 PM
delusional cebuanos :ohno:

pa republic2x of cebu pa mo unya dili man gani ninyo ma manage ug tarong ang mga kalakaran sa cebu city mismo :lol:

your streets and sidewalks stinks.. your environment is so polluted.. your streets reek of urban decay and danger.. your bus terminals makes even the hardy promdi puke.. tapos republic of cebu pa? sige hirit pa :lol:

oh really.. basin nasuya lang ka?

and what city are you? judging sa imong mga style, obvious na ka kung taga asa ka...
Why are you hiding? Just registering a new account to hit the Cebuanos, ingon ana ka ka desperate... louya sad gud tawon nimo!!

yes we are delusional ( if thats whats you think) .. but at least we have illusions of becoming and charting our own destiny? so be it..

Ikaw.. unsa man ka..........Moronic troll:lol::lol::lol:

SleMarKen
September 9th, 2010, 01:50 PM
Naa man sad nag flash dance sa Terraces pag Sabado, pero wala pay nag upload sa Youtube, naa ra sa facebook ang video,,
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1619710455647&ref=mf

yup, that's cool too... Maytag i upload...:)

diehardbisdak
September 9th, 2010, 01:59 PM
**************flickr pic***************


by @STUDIO|MAESTRO corporation
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4140/4972710768_8feaf65c9f_b.jpg

Bhan Jojo Ngoi
September 9th, 2010, 02:04 PM
yup, that's cool too... Maytag i upload...:)
here!
muU0EvoK0u0
:cheers:

diehardbisdak
September 9th, 2010, 02:04 PM
...partly, there is truth to what you said but i can smell hatred in your post! ...what have we done to you why you have to comment that way?...we are open to criticism but we don't need a desctructive one! ...how's that for 1st post in SSC? hehehe!


delusional cebuanos :ohno:

pa republic2x of cebu pa mo unya dili man gani ninyo ma manage ug tarong ang mga kalakaran sa cebu city mismo :lol:

your streets and sidewalks stinks.. your environment is so polluted.. your streets reek of urban decay and danger.. your bus terminals makes even the hardy promdi puke.. tapos republic of cebu pa? sige hirit pa :lol:

Jarenz
September 9th, 2010, 02:45 PM
delusional cebuanos :ohno:

pa republic2x of cebu pa mo unya dili man gani ninyo ma manage ug tarong ang mga kalakaran sa cebu city mismo :lol:

your streets and sidewalks stinks.. your environment is so polluted.. your streets reek of urban decay and danger.. your bus terminals makes even the hardy promdi puke.. tapos republic of cebu pa? sige hirit pa :lol:

hmmm . . . newbie acting like this?!

make a new account just to bash . . . :lol:

envy feeling or bitterness :baeh3:

Daizuke
September 9th, 2010, 02:52 PM
^^ Funny!! :lol::lol::lol: Nag effort jud tawn xag create og lain account pra lang mka bash!!

Unsa mana oi!! Kng sa tagalog pa.. Lumang tugtugin na yan!! :clown::clown:

Jarenz
September 9th, 2010, 03:03 PM
^^ kataw-anan jud . . . :lol:

Jimbu
September 9th, 2010, 03:16 PM
delusional cebuanos :ohno:

pa republic2x of cebu pa mo unya dili man gani ninyo ma manage ug tarong ang mga kalakaran sa cebu city mismo :lol:

your streets and sidewalks stinks.. your environment is so polluted.. your streets reek of urban decay and danger.. your bus terminals makes even the hardy promdi puke.. tapos republic of cebu pa? sige hirit pa :lol:

SSC-Cebu forum ni oi, di mi taga city hall. wa mi control anang mga giingon nimo. karon ra ko kabasa ingon ani from non-cebuano forumer. subra ra from a newbie:weird: maarang arang pa man to si valium kung mo comment may suggestion pa.. :bash:

Zuburbia
September 9th, 2010, 03:30 PM
delusional cebuanos :ohno:

pa republic2x of cebu pa mo unya dili man gani ninyo ma manage ug tarong ang mga kalakaran sa cebu city mismo :lol:

your streets and sidewalks stinks.. your environment is so polluted.. your streets reek of urban decay and danger.. your bus terminals makes even the hardy promdi puke.. tapos republic of cebu pa? sige hirit pa :lol:

hoi basin nakalimot ka nga naa ang Cebu sa Pilipinas, maong naa jud mi ana nga imperfections...ikaw basin feel nimo super perfect na imong lugar, ikaw tingali delusional...:lol::lol: mao bitaw usa ka rason nga ghisgot hisgot mi nga mo republic of cebu para mas naa mi control sa among Isla og sa among budget para masulbad namo ang mga problema nga wa jud katabang ang nasodnong pamuno-an...nagkadako na ang syudad og probinsya pero ang budget for infrastructure wa moha-om, murag pareho pas budget sa kung hain ka gikan nga probinsya:lol::lol:...og pls ayaw seriousoha and take literally among sturya kay mga hisgot hisgot lang kana, because of desperation nga wa jud mi matagad sa insakto sa pamuno-an sa manila, ila nalang pirme...kamo sa inyong lugar maong wa mo molambo kay itoy itoy lang mong permi, di mo kabalo mobarog sa inyong kaugalingon, mga sunod sunoran sa kaulohan!:lol::lol::lol:

wise_zech
September 9th, 2010, 04:05 PM
delusional cebuanos :ohno:

pa republic2x of cebu pa mo unya dili man gani ninyo ma manage ug tarong ang mga kalakaran sa cebu city mismo :lol:

your streets and sidewalks stinks.. your environment is so polluted.. your streets reek of urban decay and danger.. your bus terminals makes even the hardy promdi puke.. tapos republic of cebu pa? sige hirit pa :lol:

nagpakauwaw lang ka unggoy...heheh nasuya lang ka....imo lang kami gidaot...

bakasaurus
September 9th, 2010, 04:31 PM
Yaw nag tagda mga brad. Haha. Akoy nauwaw para niya. Lol.

Sleepwalker
September 9th, 2010, 04:42 PM
Wow...Taas ug nindot ang dagan sa inyong discussion, guys. Heated argument pero bilib ko, wala gud nag-name calling or nag-curse.

Thanks to our visitors from the north, our fellow visayans from west, east and central, to our cousins in Mindanao and to you my fellow Cebuanos, for keeping the discussion civil.

As for which side I am, you know am a hardcore... :)

Lipay ko sa mga good news nga gi-post diri. Labi na kadtong nakita nila nga solusyon para sa atong mga igsoon nga wala intawon kakatulgan ig-kagabii. Ug katong proposal sa FLI para sa Inayawan Landfill.

Hinaot nga padayon sa paglambo ang atong pinalangga nga Sugbo. Ug hinaot usab nga dili na to mahikalimtan o isalikway ang tiunay (original) nga kinaiya sa mga Sugbo-anon... :)

Zuburbia
September 9th, 2010, 04:50 PM
Yaw nag tagda mga brad. Haha. Akoy nauwaw para niya. Lol.

:lol::lol: hala oi...bitaw sa? gakatawa ko, murag effort pod kayo kung hingreply niya... di naman unta diay angay tagdon...wala lang pod koy lingaw..:lol::lol::lol:

SleMarKen
September 9th, 2010, 04:57 PM
^^nauwaw kong Dong Rands, Effort kaayo siya ni ting oi...:lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 9th, 2010, 04:57 PM
delusional cebuanos :ohno:

pa republic2x of cebu pa mo unya dili man gani ninyo ma manage ug tarong ang mga kalakaran sa cebu city mismo :lol:

your streets and sidewalks stinks.. your environment is so polluted.. your streets reek of urban decay and danger.. your bus terminals makes even the hardy promdi puke.. tapos republic of cebu pa? sige hirit pa :lol:

uy maayong gabii diha tingalingaling ting ting. actually sultian tika nga mao ganing gusto na mi mubuwag sa pilipinas ug magtukod og among kaugalingong republika kay kami ray lahi sa pinas dong. kami ray kinahugawan, kinadautan, kinabagisan ug uban pang angay ninyong kahadluhan nga dili ninyo makitan sa bisag asang dapit sa pilipinas. di pa ka ana wala nay hugawan sa pilipinas so ayawg kaguol uyy! :lol::lol:

Henz
September 9th, 2010, 05:05 PM
hahaha... mga bai....... dili na lang na nato e feed ang buang nga "troll" kay nagkatawa nag dako atong gitagaan ug effort ug time pag tubag niya......... hahaha

Anyway.. regarding sa iyang issues nga gi raise....... atong tubag usa ra...

Cebu is a consistent Top 10 in the worlds best island......

Ana lang...

Dili nato lawgan ang buang..............

Balik tag discuss sa mga developments ug mga good news....

johnnnex
September 9th, 2010, 05:10 PM
..kung motubay mo sa mga taw nga adik mas maconsider baya mo nga worst nga adik..so pasagdae xa nga mosulti ug bati..

..palapos lang tah sa pikas dungan guys..

SleMarKen
September 9th, 2010, 05:14 PM
^^sama aning akong gi quote bai? imong giingon nga worst nga ADIK? :lol::nuts::lol:

uy maayong gabii diha tingalingaling ting ting. actually sultian tika nga mao ganing gusto na mi mubuwag sa pilipinas ug magtukod og among kaugalingong republika kay kami ray lahi sa pinas dong. kami ray kinahugawan, kinadautan, kinabagisan ug uban pang angay ninyong kahadluhan nga dili ninyo makitan sa bisag asang dapit sa pilipinas. di pa ka ana wala nay hugawan sa pilipinas so ayawg kaguol uyy! :lol::lol:

Mercato
September 9th, 2010, 05:21 PM
delusional cebuanos :ohno:

pa republic2x of cebu pa mo unya dili man gani ninyo ma manage ug tarong ang mga kalakaran sa cebu city mismo :lol:

your streets and sidewalks stinks.. your environment is so polluted.. your streets reek of urban decay and danger.. your bus terminals makes even the hardy promdi puke.. tapos republic of cebu pa? sige hirit pa :lol:

Yaw nag tagda mga brad. Haha. Akoy nauwaw para niya. Lol. Look at it this way, bai. :)
1. this is his very first maiden post
2. can speak conversational cebuano
3. siggy taken from edgar allan poe's The Cask of Amontillado. His siggy in English means "No one attacks me with impunity". yea right whatev makes u happy
4. an obvious SSC regular hiding behind the anonymous clone. Don't you guys have a cebuano mod to investigate an obvious clone?
5. motivated creep. what more can one ask for? :rofl:

Oh yes, I forgot. If his obvious hatred makes him motivated enough to go through all this hard effort just for kicks and lessens his concentration at work for each productive day of his, then perfect! Seething with anger coz he knows he can do nothing. After all, every little single troll who pops out of the blue is nothing but a paper tiger. All bark no bite :lol: :lol:

johnnnex
September 9th, 2010, 05:31 PM
^^sama aning akong gi quote bai? imong giingon nga worst nga ADIK? :lol::nuts::lol:
..ahahaha..lain man sad nang iyang pagkaadik..

bakasaurus
September 9th, 2010, 05:40 PM
Taysa mga bai last na lang gyud. I cannot resist it. Nauso man diay to sauna ni nga expression:

Suya-i tiiiiing!

Hahahahahaha.

SleMarKen
September 9th, 2010, 05:49 PM
Just wanna share an interesting info from Malaysia.
Tonight is the eve of Hari Raya Aidilfitri here and is the same with our Christmas eve coz there's a lot of very strong fire crackers everywhere. Lupig pa'y pla pla og bawang. But one thing I'm interested with is Hari Raya Aidilfitri SYMBOL here in Malaysia.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LpjrGGRyvao/SOMBCxiH8QI/AAAAAAAAAE4/Ig0BD5MXnmE/s400/Selamat_Hari_Raya.png http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:qlx_hHTOUcDx1M::&t=1&usg=__BBCcnovq9lAC-8vggipD1QfisXc=

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:jFfcF0D7ycbYfM::&t=1&usg=__c9K4S5GuByqjNdlwfkjNd4Cz-io= http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:4mubL5BskhR6PM::&t=1&usg=__PB6ZZC9uPlGLE7oekMOFTBo2YAI=

http://www.baliforyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ketupat-decoration.jpg http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:oVbFpxYD_vqNCM::&t=1&usg=___mTMulKkETwaHdBoAt09T_Q-ASw=


they hang as decorations kike parol. hehe
pero wa sad ko kita nga naay sulod kan on...hehe

Kani i hulma pag chokolit...lol
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Lf1FH_2Cm8oPqM::&t=1&usg=__EXXv2qTFM6DrOBdO82Yl_2no2Fk=

kani gihimong bag...:D
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:e-KuDu0gYg5bwM::&t=1&usg=___b6ZGeTs7TJz-UWBG2dO1yxRtUI=

ivanc
September 9th, 2010, 06:07 PM
interesting choice of word: "kalakaran" .. lawom kaayo...

obviously someone nga naigo sa heated discussions re: tagalogs and bisayas so naghimo ug alternick account para maka pahungaw sa iyang gibati.

no.1ta
September 9th, 2010, 06:46 PM
^^ Philippines 20 years after will be different na . . .

An organized country, progressive, and vibrant economy composed of different states and will be lead by individual same as Gibo's intellect and plan, not like by our current cartoon character "President Homer Simpson" na ga-tingsi lang dagway ug pirmi tulala or should i say, always absent minded and day dreaming :ohno:

bai jarenz, imong bang giigo si president bai, mao na ang akong sabot :lol::lol::lol: bai about anang bigfoot entertainment channel, i hope they go international... i prefer to watch Cebuano and English channel than this TFC sh*t.:cheers:

no.1ta
September 9th, 2010, 06:59 PM
^^ Philippines 20 years after will be different na . . .

An organized country, progressive, and vibrant economy composed of different states and will be lead by individual same as Gibo's intellect and plan, not like by our current cartoon character "President Homer Simpson" na ga-tingsi lang dagway ug pirmi tulala or should i say, always absent minded and day dreaming :ohno:

bai jarenz, imo bang giigo si presidente bai, mao na akong sabot :lol::lol::lol: kanang bigfoot entertainment channel mayta they go international. i prefer to watch Cebuano and English channel than this TFC sh*t.:cheers:

no.1ta
September 9th, 2010, 07:33 PM
sorry double post :lol::lol::lol:.

ninja kid
September 9th, 2010, 08:12 PM
Just wanna share an interesting info from Malaysia.
Tonight is the eve of Hari Raya Aidilfitri here and is the same with our Christmas eve coz there's a lot of very strong fire crackers everywhere. Lupig pa'y pla pla og bawang. But one thing I'm interested with is Hari Raya Aidilfitri SYMBOL here in Malaysia.





http://www.baliforyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ketupat-decoration.jpg


they hang as decorations kike parol. hehe
pero wa sad ko kita nga naay sulod kan on...hehe

Kani i hulma pag chokolit...lol


kani gihimong bag...:D


Bai ... parang PUSO^ ... ang sarap nyan pag me kasamang Lechon Cebu! :D

Asa ka sa Malaysia Bai? I onced worked in Port Dickson (Negeri Sembilan) ...

Selamat pagi Abang ... terima kasih! (tama ba?) :D

Selamat Hari Raya Aidilfitri na rin sa mga kapatid nating Malaysian Muslims! :)

Wolfranz
September 9th, 2010, 09:41 PM
^^ Philippines 20 years after will be different na . . .

An organized country, progressive, and vibrant economy composed of different states and will be lead by individual same as Gibo's intellect and plan, not like by our current cartoon character "President Homer Simpson" na ga-tingsi lang dagway ug pirmi tulala or should i say, always absent minded and day dreaming :ohno:

there's nothing to expect from this manila-centric, more-talk-than-walk administration..tabla ra jud ni sila ni obama, rich in rhetoric, poor in action.. and unom ka tuig tang mag-antos :ohno:

MatudNilaBaby
September 9th, 2010, 09:50 PM
there's nothing to expect from this manila-centric, more-talk-than-walk administration..tabla ra jud ni sila ni obama, rich in rhetoric, poor in action.. and unom ka tuig tang mag-antos :ohno:

what has obama got to do with cebu? maybe you can invite him for the next hosting of the asean:lol::lol::lol:

wise_zech
September 9th, 2010, 10:05 PM
happy Eid ul-Fitr to all our muslim brothers.....

diehardbisdak
September 9th, 2010, 10:37 PM
^^ OT: bai @chard...nus-a ka balik diri? ...4-day non-working holiday mi diri sa Riyadh starting ugma...

wise_zech
September 9th, 2010, 10:49 PM
^^ OT: bai @chard...nus-a ka balik diri? ...4-day non-working holiday mi diri sa Riyadh starting ugma...

nindot unta i-anha diha bai kaso naa mi work gud.....dugay jud ko nag plano anha diha kay mag picture2x diha hehhehe....OT......

PINOYmeat
September 10th, 2010, 01:38 AM
kanang mga tao diri na naghimo ug laing mga account siguro nanga ban na na sila. (thats a hint) now, di na lang nato hugawhugawan atong thread ug usikan pa atong oras patulan ni sila kay ang ganahan ana nila maparehas ta sa ilang thread nga na lock for pila ka weeks (another hint). obvious man kaayo na ug taga asa na, kabalo gud mubisaya (third hint) its already a giveaway!

Henz
September 10th, 2010, 02:44 AM
kanang mga tao diri na naghimo ug laing mga account siguro nanga ban na na sila. (thats a hint) now, di na lang nato hugawhugawan atong thread ug usikan pa atong oras patulan ni sila kay ang ganahan ana nila maparehas ta sa ilang thread nga na lock for pila ka weeks (another hint). obvious man kaayo na ug taga asa na, kabalo gud mubisaya (third hint) its already a giveaway!


exactly............@ pinoy..akong suspect... kanang naa ngalan nga associated sa water na karon banned na forever.... :lol:

bisayaKID
September 10th, 2010, 05:11 AM
delusional cebuanos :ohno:

pa republic2x of cebu pa mo unya dili man gani ninyo ma manage ug tarong ang mga kalakaran sa cebu city mismo :lol:

your streets and sidewalks stinks.. your environment is so polluted.. your streets reek of urban decay and danger.. your bus terminals makes even the hardy promdi puke.. tapos republic of cebu pa? sige hirit pa :lol:

sorrrrry na gud if our bus terminals here make you puke..:)

Linguine
September 10th, 2010, 05:13 AM
No Chinese? Russia seen taking over

By Cris Evert Lato, Inquirer Visayas
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 23:18:00 09/09/2010

CEBU CITY—The Philippines may be reeling from a decline in the number of Chinese tourist arrivals, but there was no cause for concern as another tourism market, Russia, could more than fill the void especially in the province of Cebu, a tourism official said.

Armi Lopez Garcia, honorary consul of Russia to the Visayas, said the hostage bloodbath in Manila has not dampened the interest of Russian tourists in visiting the Philippines.

“They’re not affected by it. They love the Philippines so much and will continue to come,” Garcia told reporters at the sidelines of the signing of a memorandum of agreement (MOA) with business groups for the 2nd Philippine-Russian Business Forum and Exhibition.

The forum, to be held at Cebu International Convention Center on Oct. 21-24, is expected to gather 400 local and international delegates.

“The fact that the St. Petersburg government has confirmed its attendance shows their confidence in the country. This is a very bright development, a positive development,” said Garcia.

Garcia said tourism is an effective entry point for trade and investment, a strategy that was applied during a similar business forum last year.

According to Garcia, delegates from Russia would include mostly businessmen, with more spending power and ability to discuss business opportunities with local entrepreneurs. Apart from St. Petersburg, delegations will also come from Moscow and Vladivostok.

“This year, we are focused on sustained tourism by engaging in business with our local businessmen,” she said. “We want to show all our beautiful products to the businessmen.”

Various groups involved in trade and tourism with Russia and groups of Cebu businessmen signed the MOA for the forum last Wednesday.

Garcia said her office had also encouraged Russian businessmen to study English here.

Cebu businessman Ramil Bonghanoy, who was present during the MOA signing, said language was one of the major challenges faced by exporters when dealing with Russian businessmen.

“When we went to Russia (to attend an expo), language was a big problem. It was also there that we realized that there is a need to have an agent, a connection there to promote long-term business,” said Bonghanoy.

A businesswoman, Angela Paulin, said Russia was also a potential market for the furniture sector in Cebu.

“Everybody realizes the importance of it,” said Paulin. “We just have to get our acts together.”

source (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/regions/view/20100909-291424/No-Chinese-Russia-seen-taking-over)

johnnnex
September 10th, 2010, 06:48 AM
kanang mga tao diri na naghimo ug laing mga account siguro nanga ban na na sila. (thats a hint) now, di na lang nato hugawhugawan atong thread ug usikan pa atong oras patulan ni sila kay ang ganahan ana nila maparehas ta sa ilang thread nga na lock for pila ka weeks (another hint). obvious man kaayo na ug taga asa na, kabalo gud mubisaya (third hint) its already a giveaway!

:okay::okay::okay::okay:

Wolfranz
September 10th, 2010, 07:16 AM
what has obama got to do with cebu? maybe you can invite him for the next hosting of the asean:lol::lol::lol:

nothing... pero si noy2 pareho ra ni obama...maayo kaayo sa charisma, pero pabuhaton magkara2..

Jimbu
September 10th, 2010, 07:20 AM
exactly............@ pinoy..akong suspect... kanang naa ngalan nga associated sa water na karon banned na forever.... :lol:

sa pex duda ko siya si @trollaccount ug @visionarylink, usa ra. dire @ting na siya. ang nag post anang post# 361. :) kay passionate kaayo ang iyang pagka anti-cebu :D

no.1ta
September 10th, 2010, 07:44 AM
mga bai, di diay twedi mamalikas ngari, oh sige sa sunod mamalikas lang ko kung naay sad mamalikas na mag post. :)

Henz
September 10th, 2010, 08:38 AM
http://f431.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f17951278%5fAEh5%2fNgAACIgTInDRAe%2f83fPPts&pid=2.2&fid=Inbox&inline=1

O diara......... ang Avida Towers 90% na ang take up.. and soon Tower 2 will be launched.... Most of the buyers are from Manila and immigrants from Korea, Japan, European, American whose are either having business in the country or whose wives are from Cebu...

Now, if those buyers hate the things in Cebu or "puke" as what our troll friend says... ingon ana kadali ang pagbaligya ug condominium or mopalit kaha na sila?

Paklaro lang jud ang pagkasuya sa Cebu...

Sleepwalker
September 10th, 2010, 08:51 AM
Basta, ang importante, ang atong mga opisyal gi-koreksyonan ug gi-aksyonan na ang mga butang nga wala maatiman sa una. Ug ang atong Sugbo nagpadayon og uswag bisan pa man sa kakulang sa vitamins gikan sa national government ug bisan sa unsa'ng pagsaway gikan sa uban.

Ang nakanindot, kay daghan naman gani ganahan ug ningsalig sa Sugbo bisan pa sa iyang mga imperfections. Unsa na kaha no, kung mahinay hinay og kasulbad ang mga imperfections sa Sugbo? :)

Henz
September 10th, 2010, 08:55 AM
Basta, ang importante, ang atong mga opisyal gi-koreksyonan ug gi-aksyonan na ang mga butang nga wala maatiman sa una. Ug ang atong Sugbo nagpadayon og uswag bisan pa man sa kakulang sa vitamins gikan sa national government ug bisan sa unsa'ng pagsaway gikan sa uban.

Ang nakanindot, kay daghan naman gani ganahan ug ningsalig sa Sugbo bisan pa sa iyang mga imperfections. Unsa na kaha no, kung mahinay hinay og kasulbad ang mga imperfections sa Sugbo? :)

Correct... Unya kay ang atong LGU led by Mayor Rama is serious naman in addressing all the problems of the city, small to big.......... mosamot na jud...

Sorry na lang jud ang mga suyaon na mga troll.....:lol::lol:

cebuboi
September 10th, 2010, 09:07 AM
^^ug paga-ingon pa diay wehhhhh......B_ _ _T mo.....daun pikatan sa mata....wahe he he...:lol::lol::lol:

bitaw pasagdan na lang na nato ang mga suya-on....wala tay maani kung atong patulan...usa pa dili man sad kita ang di makatulog ug sige ug huna2x sa kasuya sa atong sugbo...kay matag usa ka lugar naa gyuy salawayon...ang importante lang nga naay naglihok, nagbuhat o ba kaha nag-alima para makorhi-an ang maong mga salawayon...kay ngano nag too diay sila nga ang ila lugar nindoton, hapsay, hamugaway o kaha way sawayonon...truth is "IT SUCKS MORE THAN OURS"....

BULLDOG
September 10th, 2010, 10:45 AM
delusional cebuanos :ohno:

pa republic2x of cebu pa mo unya dili man gani ninyo ma manage ug tarong ang mga kalakaran sa cebu city mismo :lol:

your streets and sidewalks stinks.. your environment is so polluted.. your streets reek of urban decay and danger.. your bus terminals makes even the hardy promdi puke.. tapos republic of cebu pa? sige hirit pa :lol:



Hoy animel! anak kaba talaga ng tatay mo? or anak ka ng kumpare ng tatay mo? wala kang respeto sa comment mo.....kasing baho ng bunganga mo ang laman ng utak mo :bash::bash::bash::bash:

Jimbu
September 10th, 2010, 11:32 AM
Basta, ang importante, ang atong mga opisyal gi-koreksyonan ug gi-aksyonan na ang mga butang nga wala maatiman sa una. Ug ang atong Sugbo nagpadayon og uswag bisan pa man sa kakulang sa vitamins gikan sa national government ug bisan sa unsa'ng pagsaway gikan sa uban.

Ang nakanindot, kay daghan naman gani ganahan ug ningsalig sa Sugbo bisan pa sa iyang mga imperfections. Unsa na kaha no, kung mahinay hinay og kasulbad ang mga imperfections sa Sugbo? :)

massive rehabilitation ang cleaning-up of Cebu City streets and sidewalks can be done within three (3) years, under Mayor Rama's term, including beautification of all parks and plazas, otherwise,no reason to vote for him again next election. :)

also, Mayor Rama and congressman Tom should acquire funding from the national government, to build an avenue or a highway along the shorelines of Pasil up to Mambaling entrance of SRP, duol sa proposed SM-SRP. kanang pwede butangan ug BRT in the future :)

contrast kaayo ang development kung ma fully-developed na ang SRP, unya diha bati guihapon, kita ra ba nga daghan ug squatters along the shorelines. maayo pa Cagayan de Oro, they already started developing their coastline: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1097065&page=4

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 10th, 2010, 11:43 AM
kanang mga tao diri na naghimo ug laing mga account siguro nanga ban na na sila. (thats a hint) now, di na lang nato hugawhugawan atong thread ug usikan pa atong oras patulan ni sila kay ang ganahan ana nila maparehas ta sa ilang thread nga na lock for pila ka weeks (another hint). obvious man kaayo na ug taga asa na, kabalo gud mubisaya (third hint) its already a giveaway!

:lol: maoba sir @pao? daan pa lagi ko siya gyud nas ting aling aling ting ting. :lol: tanaw man gud siguro niya major major perfect na kaayo iyang dakbayan kay daghan kaayo mudayeg ba. makapadaku biya gyud nag atay. pero ang apan pud niya kay nagtuo pud siya nga inana na siya kagamhanan para mandaot og laeng lugar. at least kita diri makadawat man pud tag mga pagdayeg gikan sa laeng mga taw pero dili man pud ta sama ka garboso niya kay wala man na nagpasabot nga pwede na ta manlibak o mandaot og laeng lugar. ang nakapaet gud aning nasura daghang mayng laki, daghang garboso og daghang perpekto maong mas maayo na lang mubuwag ang sugbo kay matud pa niya daghan man tag mga kapakyasan og sila walay bisag usa. :lol::lol::lol:

Sleepwalker
September 10th, 2010, 11:48 AM
^^Pagkanindot nga ideya, kanang avenue nga mosubay gikan Pasil padulong Mambaling.

Jarenz
September 10th, 2010, 11:50 AM
SSC-Cebu forum ni oi, di mi taga city hall. wa mi control anang mga giingon nimo. karon ra ko kabasa ingon ani from non-cebuano forumer. subra ra from a newbie:weird: maarang arang pa man to si valium kung mo comment may suggestion pa.. :bash:

sakto jud lupigan pa man si Valium sa una . . .


After all, every little single troll who pops out of the blue is nothing but a paper tiger. All bark no bite :lol: :lol:

:okay:

Taysa mga bai last na lang gyud. I cannot resist it. Nauso man diay to sauna ni nga expression:

Suya-i tiiiiing!

Hahahahahaha.

ang uso karon kay istoryahee


there's nothing to expect from this manila-centric, more-talk-than-walk administration..and unom ka tuig tang mag-antos :ohno:

Unsa-on ta man, daghan man gud tawo nagpabogo-bogo bisan sakto sa pangisip, gitagaan ug katungod na mupili ug lider pero gi-usik-usikan lang ug gibaylo lang sa kwarta, unya dayon yawyaw kung naa na sa pwesto :bash:

Our country will never change if we continue to follow our old fashion way, kung kinsa to sikat,mao dayon butaran. Dapat ilhon sa ang personalidad ug maayo kung mahimo invest time in research, profile background, credentials, and etc.

Hoy animel! anak kaba talaga ng tatay mo? or anak ka ng kumpare ng tatay mo? wala kang respeto sa comment mo.....kasing baho ng bunganga mo ang laman ng utak mo :bash::bash::bash::bash:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Jarenz
September 10th, 2010, 11:56 AM
:lol: maoba sir @pao? daan pa lagi ko siya gyud nas ting aling aling ting ting. :lol: tanaw man gud siguro niya major major perfect na kaayo iyang dakbayan kay daghan kaayo mudayeg ba. makapadaku biya gyud nag atay. pero ang apan pud niya kay nagtuo pud siya nga inana na siya kagamhanan para mandaot og laeng lugar. at least kita diri makadawat man pud tag mga pagdayeg gikan sa laeng mga taw pero dili man pud ta sama ka garboso niya kay wala man na nagpasabot nga pwede na ta manlibak o mandaot og laeng lugar. ang nakapaet gud aning nasura daghang mayng laki, daghang garboso og daghang perpekto maong mas maayo na lang mubuwag ang sugbo kay matud pa niya daghan man tag mga kapakyasan og sila walay bisag usa. :lol::lol::lol:

ma-heart attack ra na kadugayan sige huna-huna sa Cebu . . . :lol:

Jimbu
September 10th, 2010, 12:33 PM
sakto jud lupigan pa man si Valium sa una . . .
:

na popular lang si valium tungod kay mo bash siya bisag asa nga thread: Iloilo, Davao, Cebu, etc. pero naa siya suggestion in some of his comments. nobody knew where he came from :) he is not as disruptive/destructive as @ting's first post, unya newbie pa. sa ato pa nag register ra jud siya to disrupt us and to destroy the image of cebu online.

si @ ting kamao mo cebuano, pero iya pa jud gui-english. hinoon naglisod ko translate sa "delusional cebuanos", (naghanduraw nga mga sugbuanon, mao ba :))

BAKLANGCEBU
September 10th, 2010, 12:37 PM
maayong balita jud ni bay.. i hope limpyohan pud na nila ang fuente circle area sa mga street beggars.. grabe, daw usa ka batalyon ang naa.. :lol: seriously, grabe kaayo mga beggars..

as in grabe gyud, mas maayo unta ug mahatagan sila ug pagtagad.

Jarenz
September 10th, 2010, 12:54 PM
na popular lang si valium tungod kay mo bash siya bisag asa nga thread: Iloilo, Davao, Cebu, etc. pero naa siya suggestion in some of his comments. nobody knew where he came from :) he is not as disruptive/destructive as @ting's first post

phenomenal forumer to si Valium . . . Nagkagubot bisag asa nga thread :lol:

donut_bai
September 10th, 2010, 02:41 PM
I found this picture from a respected cebu sports blogger. What'd you guys think?

credits to owner
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/4972796780_bb45926ab3_b.jpg

http://www.pages.ph/2010/09/breaking-news-it%e2%80%99s-play-ball-in-hoops-dome/

Jarenz
September 10th, 2010, 03:49 PM
^^ nice find . . .

Jimbu
September 10th, 2010, 04:09 PM
^^ property diay na sa Lapu-Lapu City diha. Mayor Radaza should implement the proposal while available pa ang yuta. basig maglisod na unya sila pag papahawa kung ma unhan sila sa mga professional squatters.

sir rob
September 10th, 2010, 04:58 PM
Asa ni dapit ang Jesa building sa Gen. Maxilom? Specific location is what I mean. Site for a mini mall and call center. Unsa ka taas-a ni cya?

Jimbu
September 10th, 2010, 05:34 PM
Asa ni dapit ang Jesa building sa Gen. Maxilom? Specific location is what I mean. Site for a mini mall and call center. Unsa ka taas-a ni cya?

atbang ra sa national bookstore or unahan gamay sa jolibee kung gikan ka fuente osmeña. wala na laing 8-storey building diha.

sir rob
September 10th, 2010, 05:38 PM
atbang ra sa national bookstore or unahan gamay sa jolibee kung gikan ka fuente osmeña. wala na laing 8-storey building diha.
Salamat sir.. Greeen building daw ni cya?

Wolfranz
September 10th, 2010, 06:34 PM
^^we've been there as field exposure for one of my classes, and yes there are several green features in the building systems...

no.1ta
September 10th, 2010, 07:43 PM
I found this picture from a respected cebu sports blogger. What'd you guys think?

credits to owner
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/4972796780_bb45926ab3_b.jpg

http://www.pages.ph/2010/09/breaking-news-it%e2%80%99s-play-ball-in-hoops-dome/

i'd think it's better to have a new bigger coliseum with sliding proof, so we can host a bigger event like championship boxing, UFC or maybe World Cup and any kind of exhibition games like American Football.:)

sir rob
September 10th, 2010, 08:52 PM
i'd think it's better to have a new bigger coliseum with sliding proof, so we can host a bigger event like championship boxing, UFC or maybe World Cup and any kind of exhibition games like American Football.:)
Dako sad kaayo og gasto ang naay sliding roof bai, the only thing is, if it generates income as well.

World Cup jud.. haha wa jud ang-anga dah..!!

no.1ta
September 10th, 2010, 11:31 PM
Dako sad kaayo og gasto ang naay sliding roof bai, the only thing is, if it generates income as well.

World Cup jud.. haha wa jud ang-anga dah..!!

dako bitaw bai pero kung mubuhat cla bag-o coliseum di lindoton na nila nga pang one of a kind ba, dahang bitaw magpautang nato.:)

marxman
September 11th, 2010, 01:24 AM
(http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20100909-291411/Bisdak)

Pinoy Kasi
Bisdak
By Michael Tan
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:26:00 09/09/2010

Filed Under: Language
Most Read
I WAS in Cebu last weekend and it was there where I realized how Cebuanos were really smarting about Gloria Diaz’s alleged anti-Cebuano remarks.

I certainly don’t want to add fuel to the fire, and I totally agree with Diaz’s claims that she was quoted out of context, but the whole controversy reflects how sensitive language issues can be. Remember all this was triggered by still another beauty queen, Venus Raj, using the words “major, major” when she was replying to a question in the pageant and how she was criticized for such “bad English.”

We Filipinos can be too critical of ourselves. I’ll dare say that in these beauty pageants lapses in English—whether in diction, grammar or syntax—may actually be seen as quaint, adding to the international flavor. Using an interpreter, too, would not necessarily be seen as demeaning; in fact, it could be an act of patriotism, a way of saying, as many contestants do, “Listen to me, in my own mother language.” The furor over “major, major” actually tells us about our lack of pride in our own languages, including Filipino English.

Let’s look now at the Cebuanos’ furor. If Cebuanos reacted so negatively, it is because for many years now, a so-called Cebuano accent, which is really vowels being interchangeable—“e” and “i” and “o” and “u”—has been the subject of jokes.

Yet if you listen hard enough to people speaking other Filipino languages, including Tagalog-based Filipino, you will find that many people also interchange the vowels. The fact is that “original” Tagalog, like Cebuano and most other languages in the Philippines, are three-vowel systems. Spanish and American colonialism added the other vowels and today, the official national language, Filipino, recognizes the wider range of vowels as well as consonants like “f,” which can be quite challenging to many Filipinos.

The problem is that Cebuanos are singled out for ridicule because of class snobbery. Many domestic helpers are presumed to be “Bisaya,” which is equated to being Cebuano, when the reality is that poverty has driven women from all over the Philippines to become helpers. Some of the poorest regions in the country are in fact Eastern Visayas (the Waray area) and Bicol, which is not even a part of the Visayas. But when people from outside the Visayas hear vowels being mixed up, they presume it’s a “Bisaya,” “Bisaya” now meaning “lower class.”

Ilonggo

Note how Ilonggo, which is also a Visayan language, does not suffer from such class connotations. In fact, many people will say they’re charmed by Ilonggo, even if the speaker also interchanges vowels. The reason isn’t just because Ilonggo has such a musical or lilting tone, but because when you hear an Ilonggo accent, you imagine a wealthy hacendero, never mind that there are in fact many very poor Ilonggos.

Our reactions to other people’s languages basically reflect the quality of cross-cultural relationships we have. When jokes are made about the confusion over “l” and “r” of the Chinese and Japanese, it reflects simmering resentments against them, especially in terms of business and economics.

If I might get back now to Cebuanos and Visayans in general, my advice, admittedly unsolicited, is not to get mad but to get even. Assert a bit of “Bisdak” (Bisaya Dako or Great Bisaya) pride. Remind people that Cebuanos, not just the rich but the middle class, often have a better command of English than Tagalogs. Remember there was (and still is) strong Cebuano resentment of Tagalog being picked as the national language. So when speaking to Tagalogs, many will use English almost as a way of saying “I will not use your language. . .” with the subtext, “And let me check how good your English is,” given that English remains a prestige language in the country.

Let’s not forget too the country’s premiere English creative writing training program is not at the University of the Philippines but at Silliman University in Dumaguete, another Cebuano area. For many years, American professors ran the summer training workshops. Today they’re more likely to be run by Filipino writers, but with a mastery of English that can surpass that of Americans.

It’s also interesting how Americans in the Philippines will talk about how charmed they are by our local accents, including the “Bisaya”, when we speak English, but then complain about the “atrocious” accent of Filipino-Americans. Here, there are both class and racial biases at work. When they complain about a Filipino-American accent, they’re actually referring to lower-class Filipino-Americans, who have picked up African-American English slang, diction, grammar and syntax. So it’s okay if you break the grammar rules speaking “Harneo English” (Ateneo English) but not if you sound African-American.

Elegant Bisaya

It’s time, too, that Bisdak pride move beyond mastery of English and into showing off the richness of local languages. So what if there are missing vowels? The Visayan languages offer much more in elegance and lyricism. I first learned Cebuano through songs, and noticed right away that while Tagalog kundimans were always sad, pining away with longing and supplication (“buksan mo ang bintana”—open the window!), Cebuano songs were more of declarations of love and all the wondrous feelings that came with that love.

Bisdak pride should also mean setting the pace in other cultural domains. Note, for example, how Cebu and adjoining areas are the new Mecca for interior designers, mainly in search of the best furniture. It’s not accidental; there’s a Cebuano, or Bisaya, aesthetic that’s at once cosmopolitan—combining Spanish Old World charm with the boldness of the 21st century—and yet uses local materials in the most fascinating combinations. Through the years, I’ve actually found Manila-based designers imitating Cebu, but not quite achieving the high standards.

It’s not accidental that there’s such a Visayan artistic eye. It comes from history, from the natural environment (only in Cebu can you access the mountains and the sea within a few minutes of each other) and yes, from the language.

Who knows? We just might see the day when people will actually be imitating the Bisaya accent because it connotes not just style and class, but a whole way of looking at life, with gusto and with elan.

bakasaurus
September 11th, 2010, 02:19 AM
Naay "like" button ni nga article?! Hhaahaha.
Thanks for the "defense" and for understanding, and for the insight.

MatudNilaBaby
September 11th, 2010, 03:15 AM
I found this picture from a respected cebu sports blogger. What'd you guys think?

credits to owner
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/4972796780_bb45926ab3_b.jpg

http://www.pages.ph/2010/09/breaking-news-it%e2%80%99s-play-ball-in-hoops-dome/

kon ang capacity ani nga stadium parehas ra sa abellana it will not accommodate the increasing number of spectators karon where they hold sinulog festival and other sporting events. maayo nalang nga kanang daku2x para maka host sab ta ug mga international events.

ivanc
September 11th, 2010, 04:04 AM
mao na akong gi ingon nga billboard sa eskina new bridge nga naay nwaong ni radaza... murag LGU project man na sa lapulapu... dont want to be a pessimist but ambot madayon ba na... wala man gani ma human ug widening ug cemento ang dalan diha sa basak/mepz2 dapit...

Ang_Bantayanon
September 11th, 2010, 04:11 AM
(http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20100909-291411/Bisdak)

Pinoy Kasi
Bisdak
By Michael Tan
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:26:00 09/09/2010

Filed Under: Language
Most Read
I WAS in Cebu last weekend and it was there where I realized how Cebuanos were really smarting about Gloria Diaz’s alleged anti-Cebuano remarks.

I certainly don’t want to add fuel to the fire, and I totally agree with Diaz’s claims that she was quoted out of context, but the whole controversy reflects how sensitive language issues can be. Remember all this was triggered by still another beauty queen, Venus Raj, using the words “major, major” when she was replying to a question in the pageant and how she was criticized for such “bad English.”

We Filipinos can be too critical of ourselves. I’ll dare say that in these beauty pageants lapses in English—whether in diction, grammar or syntax—may actually be seen as quaint, adding to the international flavor. Using an interpreter, too, would not necessarily be seen as demeaning; in fact, it could be an act of patriotism, a way of saying, as many contestants do, “Listen to me, in my own mother language.” The furor over “major, major” actually tells us about our lack of pride in our own languages, including Filipino English.

Let’s look now at the Cebuanos’ furor. If Cebuanos reacted so negatively, it is because for many years now, a so-called Cebuano accent, which is really vowels being interchangeable—“e” and “i” and “o” and “u”—has been the subject of jokes.

Yet if you listen hard enough to people speaking other Filipino languages, including Tagalog-based Filipino, you will find that many people also interchange the vowels. The fact is that “original” Tagalog, like Cebuano and most other languages in the Philippines, are three-vowel systems. Spanish and American colonialism added the other vowels and today, the official national language, Filipino, recognizes the wider range of vowels as well as consonants like “f,” which can be quite challenging to many Filipinos.

The problem is that Cebuanos are singled out for ridicule because of class snobbery. Many domestic helpers are presumed to be “Bisaya,” which is equated to being Cebuano, when the reality is that poverty has driven women from all over the Philippines to become helpers. Some of the poorest regions in the country are in fact Eastern Visayas (the Waray area) and Bicol, which is not even a part of the Visayas. But when people from outside the Visayas hear vowels being mixed up, they presume it’s a “Bisaya,” “Bisaya” now meaning “lower class.”

Ilonggo

Note how Ilonggo, which is also a Visayan language, does not suffer from such class connotations. In fact, many people will say they’re charmed by Ilonggo, even if the speaker also interchanges vowels. The reason isn’t just because Ilonggo has such a musical or lilting tone, but because when you hear an Ilonggo accent, you imagine a wealthy hacendero, never mind that there are in fact many very poor Ilonggos.

Our reactions to other people’s languages basically reflect the quality of cross-cultural relationships we have. When jokes are made about the confusion over “l” and “r” of the Chinese and Japanese, it reflects simmering resentments against them, especially in terms of business and economics.

If I might get back now to Cebuanos and Visayans in general, my advice, admittedly unsolicited, is not to get mad but to get even. Assert a bit of “Bisdak” (Bisaya Dako or Great Bisaya) pride. Remind people that Cebuanos, not just the rich but the middle class, often have a better command of English than Tagalogs. Remember there was (and still is) strong Cebuano resentment of Tagalog being picked as the national language. So when speaking to Tagalogs, many will use English almost as a way of saying “I will not use your language. . .” with the subtext, “And let me check how good your English is,” given that English remains a prestige language in the country.

Let’s not forget too the country’s premiere English creative writing training program is not at the University of the Philippines but at Silliman University in Dumaguete, another Cebuano area. For many years, American professors ran the summer training workshops. Today they’re more likely to be run by Filipino writers, but with a mastery of English that can surpass that of Americans.

It’s also interesting how Americans in the Philippines will talk about how charmed they are by our local accents, including the “Bisaya”, when we speak English, but then complain about the “atrocious” accent of Filipino-Americans. Here, there are both class and racial biases at work. When they complain about a Filipino-American accent, they’re actually referring to lower-class Filipino-Americans, who have picked up African-American English slang, diction, grammar and syntax. So it’s okay if you break the grammar rules speaking “Harneo English” (Ateneo English) but not if you sound African-American.

Elegant Bisaya

It’s time, too, that Bisdak pride move beyond mastery of English and into showing off the richness of local languages. So what if there are missing vowels? The Visayan languages offer much more in elegance and lyricism. I first learned Cebuano through songs, and noticed right away that while Tagalog kundimans were always sad, pining away with longing and supplication (“buksan mo ang bintana”—open the window!), Cebuano songs were more of declarations of love and all the wondrous feelings that came with that love.

Bisdak pride should also mean setting the pace in other cultural domains. Note, for example, how Cebu and adjoining areas are the new Mecca for interior designers, mainly in search of the best furniture. It’s not accidental; there’s a Cebuano, or Bisaya, aesthetic that’s at once cosmopolitan—combining Spanish Old World charm with the boldness of the 21st century—and yet uses local materials in the most fascinating combinations. Through the years, I’ve actually found Manila-based designers imitating Cebu, but not quite achieving the high standards.

It’s not accidental that there’s such a Visayan artistic eye. It comes from history, from the natural environment (only in Cebu can you access the mountains and the sea within a few minutes of each other) and yes, from the language.

Who knows? We just might see the day when people will actually be imitating the Bisaya accent because it connotes not just style and class, but a whole way of looking at life, with gusto and with elan.

It's not just for this article but I really love Tan's articles on the Inquirer. :banana:

Sinjin P.
September 11th, 2010, 05:34 AM
mao na akong gi ingon nga billboard sa eskina new bridge nga naay nwaong ni radaza... murag LGU project man na sa lapulapu... dont want to be a pessimist but ambot madayon ba na... wala man gani ma human ug widening ug cemento ang dalan diha sa basak/mepz2 dapit...

Yep, mao to'y isa sa campaign materials ni Radaza for the elections. :lol:

Sleepwalker
September 11th, 2010, 05:38 AM
Nganong dili man na mapukan ang mga Radaza sa Lapu-lapu? Nga unta, nagkagidlay naman kana sila sa mga alegasyon sa korapsyon?

Ang mga Ouano sa Mandaue, natumba naman. Si Bro. Soc Fernandez, ningdaog man gihapon sa Talisay, maski og konsintidor siyang dako sa iyang anak-anak nga si Joavan.

Linguine
September 11th, 2010, 09:05 AM
Cebu Marriot Hotel

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/linguine16/IMG_2215.jpg

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/linguine16/IMG_2210.jpg

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http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/linguine16/IMG_2211.jpg

cebuboi
September 11th, 2010, 09:07 AM
(http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20100909-291411/Bisdak)

Pinoy Kasi
Bisdak
By Michael Tan
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:26:00 09/09/2010

Filed Under: Language
Most Read
I WAS in Cebu last weekend and it was there where I realized how Cebuanos were really smarting about Gloria Diaz’s alleged anti-Cebuano remarks.

I certainly don’t want to add fuel to the fire, and I totally agree with Diaz’s claims that she was quoted out of context, but the whole controversy reflects how sensitive language issues can be. Remember all this was triggered by still another beauty queen, Venus Raj, using the words “major, major” when she was replying to a question in the pageant and how she was criticized for such “bad English.”

We Filipinos can be too critical of ourselves. I’ll dare say that in these beauty pageants lapses in English—whether in diction, grammar or syntax—may actually be seen as quaint, adding to the international flavor. Using an interpreter, too, would not necessarily be seen as demeaning; in fact, it could be an act of patriotism, a way of saying, as many contestants do, “Listen to me, in my own mother language.” The furor over “major, major” actually tells us about our lack of pride in our own languages, including Filipino English.

Let’s look now at the Cebuanos’ furor. If Cebuanos reacted so negatively, it is because for many years now, a so-called Cebuano accent, which is really vowels being interchangeable—“e” and “i” and “o” and “u”—has been the subject of jokes.

Yet if you listen hard enough to people speaking other Filipino languages, including Tagalog-based Filipino, you will find that many people also interchange the vowels. The fact is that “original” Tagalog, like Cebuano and most other languages in the Philippines, are three-vowel systems. Spanish and American colonialism added the other vowels and today, the official national language, Filipino, recognizes the wider range of vowels as well as consonants like “f,” which can be quite challenging to many Filipinos.

The problem is that Cebuanos are singled out for ridicule because of class snobbery. Many domestic helpers are presumed to be “Bisaya,” which is equated to being Cebuano, when the reality is that poverty has driven women from all over the Philippines to become helpers. Some of the poorest regions in the country are in fact Eastern Visayas (the Waray area) and Bicol, which is not even a part of the Visayas. But when people from outside the Visayas hear vowels being mixed up, they presume it’s a “Bisaya,” “Bisaya” now meaning “lower class.”

Ilonggo

Note how Ilonggo, which is also a Visayan language, does not suffer from such class connotations. In fact, many people will say they’re charmed by Ilonggo, even if the speaker also interchanges vowels. The reason isn’t just because Ilonggo has such a musical or lilting tone, but because when you hear an Ilonggo accent, you imagine a wealthy hacendero, never mind that there are in fact many very poor Ilonggos.

Our reactions to other people’s languages basically reflect the quality of cross-cultural relationships we have. When jokes are made about the confusion over “l” and “r” of the Chinese and Japanese, it reflects simmering resentments against them, especially in terms of business and economics.

If I might get back now to Cebuanos and Visayans in general, my advice, admittedly unsolicited, is not to get mad but to get even. Assert a bit of “Bisdak” (Bisaya Dako or Great Bisaya) pride. Remind people that Cebuanos, not just the rich but the middle class, often have a better command of English than Tagalogs. Remember there was (and still is) strong Cebuano resentment of Tagalog being picked as the national language. So when speaking to Tagalogs, many will use English almost as a way of saying “I will not use your language. . .” with the subtext, “And let me check how good your English is,” given that English remains a prestige language in the country.

Let’s not forget too the country’s premiere English creative writing training program is not at the University of the Philippines but at Silliman University in Dumaguete, another Cebuano area. For many years, American professors ran the summer training workshops. Today they’re more likely to be run by Filipino writers, but with a mastery of English that can surpass that of Americans.

It’s also interesting how Americans in the Philippines will talk about how charmed they are by our local accents, including the “Bisaya”, when we speak English, but then complain about the “atrocious” accent of Filipino-Americans. Here, there are both class and racial biases at work. When they complain about a Filipino-American accent, they’re actually referring to lower-class Filipino-Americans, who have picked up African-American English slang, diction, grammar and syntax. So it’s okay if you break the grammar rules speaking “Harneo English” (Ateneo English) but not if you sound African-American.

Elegant Bisaya

It’s time, too, that Bisdak pride move beyond mastery of English and into showing off the richness of local languages. So what if there are missing vowels? The Visayan languages offer much more in elegance and lyricism. I first learned Cebuano through songs, and noticed right away that while Tagalog kundimans were always sad, pining away with longing and supplication (“buksan mo ang bintana”—open the window!), Cebuano songs were more of declarations of love and all the wondrous feelings that came with that love.

Bisdak pride should also mean setting the pace in other cultural domains. Note, for example, how Cebu and adjoining areas are the new Mecca for interior designers, mainly in search of the best furniture. It’s not accidental; there’s a Cebuano, or Bisaya, aesthetic that’s at once cosmopolitan—combining Spanish Old World charm with the boldness of the 21st century—and yet uses local materials in the most fascinating combinations. Through the years, I’ve actually found Manila-based designers imitating Cebu, but not quite achieving the high standards.

It’s not accidental that there’s such a Visayan artistic eye. It comes from history, from the natural environment (only in Cebu can you access the mountains and the sea within a few minutes of each other) and yes, from the language.

Who knows? We just might see the day when people will actually be imitating the Bisaya accent because it connotes not just style and class, but a whole way of looking at life, with gusto and with elan.

^^VERY WELL SAID...no need to expound further......:cheers::cheers::cheers:

cebu2010
September 11th, 2010, 09:19 AM
1st time user, Long time reader! Hi SSC Cebu, How may I help you?

Linguine
September 11th, 2010, 09:22 AM
Casino Espanol


Bacolod flamenco artists at the spanish month celebration and 90th anniversary of Casino Espanol......

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/linguine16/IMG_2233-1.jpg

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Jarenz
September 11th, 2010, 12:01 PM
Asa ni dapit ang Jesa building sa Gen. Maxilom? Specific location is what I mean. Site for a mini mall and call center. Unsa ka taas-a ni cya?

JESA IT BLDG.


http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/djxd2/underconstruction/jesaitbldg.jpg


http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/djxd2/underconstruction/jesaitbldg2.jpg


http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/djxd2/underconstruction/onemangojesa.jpg



1st time user, Long time reader! Hi SSC Cebu,

Welcome to SSC Cebu! :cheers:


Cebu Marriot Hotel



thanks for posting Sir . . .

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 11th, 2010, 12:11 PM
(http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20100909-291411/Bisdak)

Pinoy Kasi
Bisdak
By Michael Tan
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:26:00 09/09/2010

Filed Under: Language
Most Read
I WAS in Cebu last weekend and it was there where I realized how Cebuanos were really smarting about Gloria Diaz’s alleged anti-Cebuano remarks.

I certainly don’t want to add fuel to the fire, and I totally agree with Diaz’s claims that she was quoted out of context, but the whole controversy reflects how sensitive language issues can be. Remember all this was triggered by still another beauty queen, Venus Raj, using the words “major, major” when she was replying to a question in the pageant and how she was criticized for such “bad English.”

We Filipinos can be too critical of ourselves. I’ll dare say that in these beauty pageants lapses in English—whether in diction, grammar or syntax—may actually be seen as quaint, adding to the international flavor. Using an interpreter, too, would not necessarily be seen as demeaning; in fact, it could be an act of patriotism, a way of saying, as many contestants do, “Listen to me, in my own mother language.” The furor over “major, major” actually tells us about our lack of pride in our own languages, including Filipino English.

Let’s look now at the Cebuanos’ furor. If Cebuanos reacted so negatively, it is because for many years now, a so-called Cebuano accent, which is really vowels being interchangeable—“e” and “i” and “o” and “u”—has been the subject of jokes.

Yet if you listen hard enough to people speaking other Filipino languages, including Tagalog-based Filipino, you will find that many people also interchange the vowels. The fact is that “original” Tagalog, like Cebuano and most other languages in the Philippines, are three-vowel systems. Spanish and American colonialism added the other vowels and today, the official national language, Filipino, recognizes the wider range of vowels as well as consonants like “f,” which can be quite challenging to many Filipinos.

The problem is that Cebuanos are singled out for ridicule because of class snobbery. Many domestic helpers are presumed to be “Bisaya,” which is equated to being Cebuano, when the reality is that poverty has driven women from all over the Philippines to become helpers. Some of the poorest regions in the country are in fact Eastern Visayas (the Waray area) and Bicol, which is not even a part of the Visayas. But when people from outside the Visayas hear vowels being mixed up, they presume it’s a “Bisaya,” “Bisaya” now meaning “lower class.”

Ilonggo

Note how Ilonggo, which is also a Visayan language, does not suffer from such class connotations. In fact, many people will say they’re charmed by Ilonggo, even if the speaker also interchanges vowels. The reason isn’t just because Ilonggo has such a musical or lilting tone, but because when you hear an Ilonggo accent, you imagine a wealthy hacendero, never mind that there are in fact many very poor Ilonggos.

Our reactions to other people’s languages basically reflect the quality of cross-cultural relationships we have. When jokes are made about the confusion over “l” and “r” of the Chinese and Japanese, it reflects simmering resentments against them, especially in terms of business and economics.

If I might get back now to Cebuanos and Visayans in general, my advice, admittedly unsolicited, is not to get mad but to get even. Assert a bit of “Bisdak” (Bisaya Dako or Great Bisaya) pride. Remind people that Cebuanos, not just the rich but the middle class, often have a better command of English than Tagalogs. Remember there was (and still is) strong Cebuano resentment of Tagalog being picked as the national language. So when speaking to Tagalogs, many will use English almost as a way of saying “I will not use your language. . .” with the subtext, “And let me check how good your English is,” given that English remains a prestige language in the country.

Let’s not forget too the country’s premiere English creative writing training program is not at the University of the Philippines but at Silliman University in Dumaguete, another Cebuano area. For many years, American professors ran the summer training workshops. Today they’re more likely to be run by Filipino writers, but with a mastery of English that can surpass that of Americans.

It’s also interesting how Americans in the Philippines will talk about how charmed they are by our local accents, including the “Bisaya”, when we speak English, but then complain about the “atrocious” accent of Filipino-Americans. Here, there are both class and racial biases at work. When they complain about a Filipino-American accent, they’re actually referring to lower-class Filipino-Americans, who have picked up African-American English slang, diction, grammar and syntax. So it’s okay if you break the grammar rules speaking “Harneo English” (Ateneo English) but not if you sound African-American.

Elegant Bisaya

It’s time, too, that Bisdak pride move beyond mastery of English and into showing off the richness of local languages. So what if there are missing vowels? The Visayan languages offer much more in elegance and lyricism. I first learned Cebuano through songs, and noticed right away that while Tagalog kundimans were always sad, pining away with longing and supplication (“buksan mo ang bintana”—open the window!), Cebuano songs were more of declarations of love and all the wondrous feelings that came with that love.

Bisdak pride should also mean setting the pace in other cultural domains. Note, for example, how Cebu and adjoining areas are the new Mecca for interior designers, mainly in search of the best furniture. It’s not accidental; there’s a Cebuano, or Bisaya, aesthetic that’s at once cosmopolitan—combining Spanish Old World charm with the boldness of the 21st century—and yet uses local materials in the most fascinating combinations. Through the years, I’ve actually found Manila-based designers imitating Cebu, but not quite achieving the high standards.

It’s not accidental that there’s such a Visayan artistic eye. It comes from history, from the natural environment (only in Cebu can you access the mountains and the sea within a few minutes of each other) and yes, from the language.

Who knows? We just might see the day when people will actually be imitating the Bisaya accent because it connotes not just style and class, but a whole way of looking at life, with gusto and with elan.

reading this gave me a sigh of relief for a while. at least, a national broadsheet surprisingly defended Cebuanos furor about the issue. ;)

Casino Espanol


with the Bacolod flamenco artists during their performance recently...

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WOW! has anyone here watched balikbayan last night? the travel show's guest was Asia's Queen of Songs and Pride of Cebu, Ms. Pilita Corrales. Casino Español was featured on that show as well as Colegio de la Inmaculada Concepcion, Lechon de Cebu and many more. ;)

1st time user, Long time reader! Hi SSC Cebu, How may I help you?

Welcome to SSC-Cebu! :cheers:

slimer
September 11th, 2010, 12:15 PM
btw, kinsa nay nakaadto aning Cebu Wetland Resort. Pwede daw ka mag-boating, fishing, and swimming all in one place. Naa daw ni sa Basak, Pardo. Kita ko sa local morning tv ani.
murag nindot kay naa ra gyud sa city.

Sinjin P.
September 11th, 2010, 01:53 PM
Nganong dili man na mapukan ang mga Radaza sa Lapu-lapu? Nga unta, nagkagidlay naman kana sila sa mga alegasyon sa korapsyon?

Ang mga Ouano sa Mandaue, natumba naman. Si Bro. Soc Fernandez, ningdaog man gihapon sa Talisay, maski og konsintidor siyang dako sa iyang anak-anak nga si Joavan.

Wala'y mabuhat ang mga "aware" sa mga binuhatan sa mga Radaza kung ang supporters nila kay ang mga illegal settlers, trisikad drivers, and the like.

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September 11th, 2010, 01:54 PM
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Linguine
September 11th, 2010, 01:56 PM
Casino Espanol

Bacolod flamenco artists performing....

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/linguine16/34980_414966254453_719609453_4311129_7317104_n.jpg

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Mercato
September 11th, 2010, 03:59 PM
^^^^ Ole! Here's another Visayan beauty, Congresswoman Lucy Torres Gomez. Born in Ormoc and studied college in Cebu. :)
Lucy Torres Gomez

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Full credits to fernanamor

Lucy Torres Gomez, Fundacion Centro Flamenco philippines, La Rosa, Pasion Y Fuego

:dance2:I did see Lucy but I only recognized belatedly that on 05:37 were Richard Gomez & Lucy Torres Gomez dancing...

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Full credits to fernanamor

Fundacion Centro Flamenco Phil., Pasion y Fuego, Emma Estrada, Angel Gomez, Yerbaguena, Marien Gomez, Cecille de Joya, Antonio Soria

:dance2:

eskeryon
September 11th, 2010, 04:07 PM
btw, kinsa nay nakaadto aning Cebu Wetland Resort. Pwede daw ka mag-boating, fishing, and swimming all in one place. Naa daw ni sa Basak, Pardo. Kita ko sa local morning tv ani.
murag nindot kay naa ra gyud sa city.

CEBU WETLAND RESORT
With owner, engr. julito roden at rightmost in short
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/weland2.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/weland3.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/weland5.jpg

swimming pool
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/weland4.jpg

eskeryon
September 11th, 2010, 04:29 PM
JESA BLDG
(JESUS EMMANUEL SEGURA AVILA BUILDING)
Ground floor near the fountain shows floor tiles arranged to look like film strips as remembrance the building was once a theater.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/jesa11.jpg

Grandson of JESA, Arch. Emmanuel Jesus Avila who is also a civil engineer, registered master plumber and real estate broker (in yellow shirt) explain to studens of Cebu Institute of tECH -University)
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/jesa9.jpg

Rain water cistern tank which is used for flushing water closets in the building
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/jesa2.jpg

A well ventilated basement parking area
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/jesa1.jpg

Parchie
September 11th, 2010, 06:31 PM
CEBU WETLAND RESORT
With owner, engr. julito roden at rightmost in short
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/weland2.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/weland3.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/weland5.jpg

swimming pool
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/weland4.jpg

Stagnant water ni siya bay? Ug di gani, basin ug naay daghang dengue mosquito dinhi! hehehe joke3x

mwg12a
September 11th, 2010, 10:04 PM
Cebu Marriot Hotel

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/linguine16/IMG_2215.jpg

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/linguine16/IMG_2210.jpg

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http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/linguine16/IMG_2211.jpg

Very nice!!! Totally different from how it looks like 5 years ago when I stayed there for a week. I like the close proximity of Marriot and the Ayala Mall. Ofcourse!! there is a food court in ACC can't beat that!!!

mwg12a
September 11th, 2010, 10:14 PM
kanang mga tao diri na naghimo ug laing mga account siguro nanga ban na na sila. (thats a hint) now, di na lang nato hugawhugawan atong thread ug usikan pa atong oras patulan ni sila kay ang ganahan ana nila maparehas ta sa ilang thread nga na lock for pila ka weeks (another hint). obvious man kaayo na ug taga asa na, kabalo gud mubisaya (third hint) its already a giveaway!

People like those are not just ignorant, they are coward so they hide behind their computer and start something. I think it's just their way to make themselves feel better . These people are probably the type of people who has personality disorder that they don't even get along with their own peers. you know? the odd person in the crowd... I won't even let my hair get messed up on those people simply because they are not worth our time.

mwg12a
September 11th, 2010, 10:25 PM
here!
muU0EvoK0u0
:cheers:

Bravo!!! Do these people knew one another or it's one of those real rare moments where everybody started to be in the same wavelength and did things out of the blue? That was very spectacular. Kudos to them!

flesh_is_weak
September 12th, 2010, 12:28 AM
Basta, ang importante, ang atong mga opisyal gi-koreksyonan ug gi-aksyonan na ang mga butang nga wala maatiman sa una. Ug ang atong Sugbo nagpadayon og uswag bisan pa man sa kakulang sa vitamins gikan sa national government ug bisan sa unsa'ng pagsaway gikan sa uban.

Ang nakanindot, kay daghan naman gani ganahan ug ningsalig sa Sugbo bisan pa sa iyang mga imperfections. Unsa na kaha no, kung mahinay hinay og kasulbad ang mga imperfections sa Sugbo? :)

IMO, angay anaron ang mga Sugbuanon sa pagamit sa mga pulong nga atong Sugbo whenever we refer to Cebu

SleMarKen
September 12th, 2010, 03:23 AM
PILITA CORALES BALIK-BAYAN SA CEBU CITY!

Tampok sa balikbayan ngayong gabi ay dalawang reyna: Ito ang "Queen City of the south" Cebu City at ang Asia 's Queen of Songs Ms. Pilita Corales.

Bago pa man sumikat sa buong mundo si Charise Pempengco, world class na ang pinoy sa katauhan ni Pilita Corales noon. Kilala siya ng marami dahil sa kaniyang kakaibang pagliyad habang kumakanta.

Tubong Cebu si Pilita at bago pa man siya maging sikat. Ngayong biyernes, ating tutuklasin ang mga lugar at tao na kasamang humubog sa ating bida. Bibisitahin din ang dati niyang eskuwelahan at ang mga ala-ala niya dito.

Sinurpresa rin namin si Pilita sa kaniyang kaarawan, inimbita namin ang kaniyang mga kababata at mga kaibigan na matagal nang hindi nakikita para sa isang surprise party na naging isang reunion.

Hindi naman papahuli ang ating biyaherong si Drew sa mga ipinagmamalaking produkto at rapsang pagkain sa Cebu . Unang lalantakan ay ang world famous lechon baboy na may lechon manok sa loob na ubod ng linamnam. Sasampolan rin ng ating biyahero ang chicharon ng Cebu . Siyempre kapag pupunta ng Cebu , hindi pwedeng hindi mag-uwi ng pasalubong, kaya si Drew, nagpunta muna sa Tabuan Market para sa mga rapsang pasalubong tulad ng dried mangos, otap at ang paborito mismo ni Pilita, ang Ginamos.

At dahil magaling na singer si Pilita, maririnig natin ang kaniyang world-class voice. At hindi lang kantahan ang inyong mapapanood, mapapasayaw rin kayo sa street dance dahil sa isang magarbong pista ng Cebu na dinaluhan ni biyaherong Drew at ni Pilita sa ipinagdiriwang ng Pasigarbo ng Cebu !

Kaya manood na sa paboritong travel show ng buong bansa. Dahil higit sa mga trip ang mga makulay na biyahe ang ating pagsasamahan dito sa Balik-Bayan sa QTV 11!


--------------------------------

My Anti, eldest sister sa mother's side used to be the best friend of Pilita pero na surprise si Pilits pagkahibaw niya nga ni una na sa laing kalibutan akong Anti... sad.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 12th, 2010, 04:27 AM
^^
ive watched it! i didn't know she went to school at CIC-Main diay! my alma mater when i was in grade school! 'colegio de mis amores!' :D

makahinumdum lang ko katong grade school pa ko nga daghan gyud kaayo kog mga classmate with spanish descent (ako ray dili :D:lol:). usa ana ang 2 anak sa spanish consul diri sa sugbo na si jamie picornell! amo gyud tong binuangan permi kay bisayang hilaw man to among tawag nila sauna kay kung magbinisaya katsila kaayo og tono without knowing nga anak diay tos sa consul!!! :lol:

i am proud to say that of all schools here in cebu, CIC has the only spanish school hymn. :cheers:
mao ra pud nay kanta in spanish na memorize gihapon nako hangtud karon intawon! :lol::lol::lol:

Sleepwalker
September 12th, 2010, 04:51 AM
^^Kini's Pilits, kuyog ni Gokongwei, nga maski og tua na sa kaulohan nag-base, di gud kalimot sa atong Sugbo. Katan-aw ko og og Sharon Cuneta Show, si Pilits ang guest, aw, sa wala'y kukaikog ug sa wala'y pagduha duha, nag-Sinugboanon ang gwapa...:okay:

Og mokaon diay gihapon og ginamos si Pilits... :)

no.1ta
September 12th, 2010, 07:54 AM
Pilita Corales is a great woman and a good singers, she always take pride for being a Cebuana.:)

leylander
September 12th, 2010, 09:23 AM
Manilyn Reynes, too, is proud of her heritage. I think she has a house in Banawa.

Sauna, Vina Morales, i think, denied that she was from Cebu. I think that was the reason why 'gilangaw' daw iyang concert sa Bogo.

mwg12a
September 12th, 2010, 10:30 AM
^^Really?? She changed her way then because I heard Vina Morales, speak Cebuana in their show when they were greeting all the viewers from Visayan Region on national TV. And she even announced how proud to be being a Cebuana.

SleMarKen
September 12th, 2010, 10:33 AM
^^yeah, before. She denied being a Cebuana. Natauhan na siguro kaya bumawi...lol

redjieredz
September 12th, 2010, 10:39 AM
^^yeah, before. She denied being a Cebuana. Natauhan na siguro kaya bumawi...lol

^^ Correct!! The more siya mo denied, The more sad dili siya ilhun sa mga Cebuanos. :)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 12th, 2010, 02:37 PM
^^Really?? She changed her way then because I heard Vina Morales, speak Cebuana in their show when they were greeting all the viewers from Visayan Region on national TV. And she even announced how proud to be being a Cebuana.

well i believe during her time, its quite hard to speak about where you came from esp when your in manila just like most cebuano companies have to do in order to be successful in their respective fields as what they are today. well its quite sad to note that at first, these companies have to struggle through alot of things to the point of denying being a cebuano a couple of times just to be recognized and accepted in manila. but in time, has they earned manila's respect and appreciation, it was time for them to reveal themselves as proud cebuanos even though discrimination was inevitable to happen the moment they came out in the open. some might have been unlucky but i would like to believe that majority of these cebuano companies now based in manila are amongst the largest and well-respected companies in the country today. :cheers:

maayomo
September 12th, 2010, 02:56 PM
JESA BLDG
(JESUS EMMANUEL SEGURA AVILA BUILDING)
Ground floor near the fountain shows floor tiles arranged to look like film strips as remembrance the building was once a theater.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/jesa11.jpg

Grandson of JESA, Arch. Emmanuel Jesus Avila who is also a civil engineer, registered master plumber and real estate broker (in yellow shirt) explain to studens of Cebu Institute of tECH -University)
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/jesa9.jpg

Rain water cistern tank which is used for flushing water closets in the building
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/jesa2.jpg

A well ventilated basement parking area
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/jesa1.jpg

I miss this place. I and my family used to watch movies here when I was a kid. This used to be Century 21, right? This was one of the two "classy" cinemas back then. The other one was Belvic, now Sampaguita Suites. How I wish stand-alone cinemas would be popular again. :)

icarusrising
September 12th, 2010, 03:49 PM
well i believe during her time, its quite hard to speak about where you came from esp when your in manila just like most cebuano companies have to do in order to be successful in their respective fields as what they are today. well its quite sad to note that at first, these companies have to struggle through alot of things to the point of denying being a cebuano a couple of times just to be recognized and accepted in manila. but in time, has they earned manila's respect and appreciation, it was time for them to reveal themselves as proud cebuanos even though discrimination was inevitable to happen the moment they came out in the open. some might have been unlucky but i would like to believe that majority of these cebuano companies now based in manila are amongst the largest and well-respected companies in the country today. :cheers:

I find that hard to believe. I mean, Pilita was ahead of Vina, wasn't she? And Manilyn and she were more or less contemporaries. Could you give specific examples of other individuals or companies who had to deny their Cebu roots so they could become accepted in Manila?

SleMarKen
September 12th, 2010, 03:50 PM
I miss this place. I and my family used to watch movies here when I was a kid. This used to be Century 21, right? This was one of the two "classy" cinemas back then. The other one was Belvic, now Sampaguita Suites. How I wish stand-alone cinemas would be popular again. :)

Ang pinaka una nga sinehan nasudlan nako gikan sa akong pagka taw. Small Medium Large to nga salida of Jimmy Santos, Rene Requiestas og nalimot kos usa...lol

lowellflores
September 12th, 2010, 04:15 PM
Ako sad bai pinaka una nako tan aw sine kay sa Belvic katong Cobra kay stalone, murag mga 1986 man to or 1987. pero wala ko kasabot kay sige lang ko kaon pop corn ato.na kung bati ang salida sa belvic mulakaw lang mi anha sa century 21 tan aw ug lain salida.

a_terisk78y™
September 12th, 2010, 04:22 PM
ako pod bai alladin mao ra ka ako nahinumdoman hehehe. nindot ayu nig sud nmo sinehan kay pina red carpet hehe...

SleMarKen
September 12th, 2010, 04:28 PM
How well do you know Cebu?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7426/osmenamausoleum2.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/osmenamausoleum2.jpg/)

Asa ni?

bakasaurus
September 12th, 2010, 04:49 PM
Bangko man tingali ni sa may Carbon dapit? Hehehe. Ionic columns pa kaayo.

so_1
September 12th, 2010, 04:53 PM
^^ bai, BPI bank along Magallanes..

SleMarKen
September 12th, 2010, 04:57 PM
double wrong.

not in downtown
not a bank

:D

a_terisk78y™
September 12th, 2010, 05:03 PM
my guess is katu mausoleum ni osmena hehe

Bhan Jojo Ngoi
September 12th, 2010, 05:06 PM
How well do you know Cebu?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7426/osmenamausoleum2.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/osmenamausoleum2.jpg/)

Asa ni?

Osmeña mausoleum?

sir rob
September 12th, 2010, 05:18 PM
Manilyn Reynes, too, is proud of her heritage. I think she has a house in Banawa.

Sauna, Vina Morales, i think, denied that she was from Cebu. I think that was the reason why 'gilangaw' daw iyang concert sa Bogo.
This I can agree with certainty. Kay taga Bogo ko.!!!:lol:At some point she denied it.

SleMarKen
September 12th, 2010, 05:50 PM
my guess is katu mausoleum ni osmena hehe

Osmeña mausoleum?


haha sakto!

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/MarkiiBoi4/OsmenaMausoleum.jpg

kasayang gyud ani nga structure. squatters ra ang pirmi makakita.

zubuwood
September 12th, 2010, 06:30 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3573/3328999346_e09a43491f_o.jpg

Henz
September 12th, 2010, 06:40 PM
^^Really?? She changed her way then because I heard Vina Morales, speak Cebuana in their show when they were greeting all the viewers from Visayan Region on national TV. And she even announced how proud to be being a Cebuana.

There was also a case na she was invited by the Cebu Pop Music Festival for a very special event.. morag 10th year man seguro to ( am not sure).. and she refused because she demands a huge talent fee which the CPMF could not afford.. so in the end, the CPMF was held without her. But this created a stir since Vina actually started as CPMF... maski libre pa seguro iyang presence didto dili gihapon sya kabayad sa CPMF..

But anyway, this was already threshed out by the Magdayaos.. the made it up by attending the next CPMF.. for free.. But these were the times when Vina also had the issue of denying that she is a Cebuano... i guess its her own volition not exactly because of discrimination. :)

SleMarKen
September 12th, 2010, 06:41 PM
old aerials but worth sharing

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/MarkiiBoi4/46804_10150282873080193_512405192_14818537_6069903_n.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/MarkiiBoi4/46804_10150282873085193_512405192_14818538_1378811_n.jpg

photos by Norwin Detalla, M.D.

MatudNilaBaby
September 12th, 2010, 07:26 PM
Manilyn Reynes, too, is proud of her heritage. I think she has a house in Banawa.

Sauna, Vina Morales, i think, denied that she was from Cebu. I think that was the reason why 'gilangaw' daw iyang concert sa Bogo.

vina morales did not deny that she is a cebuana from bogo. she was discovered through television as the singing sensation from cebu. she also interpreted a song for cebu pop music "Paglaum". sa wala pa siya mailado sa manila, nagkantahan na siya diri sa cebu. wala lang niya ma emphasize ang iyang pagka cebuana sa dihang nag-artista siya aside from being a singer.

Sinjin P.
September 13th, 2010, 04:35 AM
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Sleepwalker
September 13th, 2010, 04:40 AM
The never ending united efforts of Cebu's LGU and private sector to bring Cebu higher in terms of tourism.

"Windows of Cebu" reminds of "Windows of the World" in Shenzhen City, China.

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CCCI to create programs to reinvent Cebu tourism (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=611544&publicationSubCategoryId=108)
By Ehda M. Dagooc (The Freeman) Updated September 13, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)

CEBU, Philippines – The Cebu Chamber of Commerce and Industry (CCCI) tourism committee is set to initiate an intensive tourism program to spruce up Cebu's edge in the industry in preparation for the anticipated recovery of the international tourism market.

CCCI tourism committee chairperson Mila Espina said that the committee will start introducing at least four sub-programs to re-invent Cebu tourism to fit today's changing needs of tourists.

In partnership with tourism stakeholders in Cebu and the local government units (LGUs) in both the Cebu City and Cebu Provincial governments, Cebu will introduce the "Hop-on/Hop-off" program that will give tourists' convenience in hopping from one attraction to another.

According to Espina, the committee will also introduce the creation of "Windows of Cebu" facility that will showcase all the prime attraction of Cebu in one place, to give some tourists a glimpse of what Cebu can offer.

Patterned after the facilities of great tourism destinations in the world, where a one-stop-shop of venue will display all the attractions in one place, including the iconic land-marks, heritage and culture, the facility is seen to make Cebu a truly world-class destination.

According to Espina, since the creation of "Windows of Cebu" would entail significant budget, stakeholders will seek the help from both LGU and the national government, specifically that the Aquino administration made its promise to help Cebu's tourism sector.

Earlier, The Republic of the Philippines' executive secretary Paquito N. Ochoa Jr., said the government has recognized Cebu's leadership in the tourism sector in the country.

"Last year, Cebu was the country's top tourist destination, with 1.6 million visitors, and it's not hard to see why you have a beautify City that is complemented by the kind of ward hospitality that makes visitors come back again and again," said Ochoa.

Espina said there is a need for Cebu to constantly re-invent itself in terms of attracting tourist.

Significantly, she said Cebu will also pioneer in introducing "green tourism" in the country, through the establishment of a "Creative Eco-Tour," that will showcase all the environment and health-friendly initiatives by Cebuanos, such as the eco-house of former Cebu City Councilor Nestor Archival, and some distinct eco-icons in Cebu.

Espina said there are a lot of eco-facilities that environment-savvy tourists will love to go to, including the high-land organic farm of Rene Mercado, an organic restaurant, the eco-adventure package or the famous Zip-line facility in Balamban, among others.

Espina said there is a dire need to introduce new packages to the changing interest of tourists. These programs will be added on top of the conventional tour package being offered by the tourism sellers or tour operators now.

Also, another project is to put up "Information Networking Center" in major areas all over Metro Cebu to give tourists access to information about Cebu's tourism, including where to stay, dine; how to get to a certain destination; safety measures; data base of restaurants, hotels, among others.

Espina said this information should readily be made available to tourists. One facility may be set up in the airport, port area, transportation terminals, among others. (FREEMAN)

avatarjun
September 13th, 2010, 05:28 AM
nice info. :)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 13th, 2010, 06:07 AM
I find that hard to believe. I mean, Pilita was ahead of Vina, wasn't she? And Manilyn and she were more or less contemporaries. Could you give specific examples of other individuals or companies who had to deny their Cebu roots so they could become accepted in Manila?

well, one specific example is Penshoppe. i read one article a couple of months ago about the humble beginnings of one of the country's well-known clothing brands, Penshoppe. Penshoppe is owned by a Cebuano entrepreneur Bernie Liu and started out as a small clothing store in VisMin. he decided to invade Manila and rented a stall in one of the Robinsons malls in the metro practically because John Gokongwei is also a Cebuano but its first boutique was at SM North Edsa. Liu and some of his friends started small but eventually became a major hit amongst the younger generation. Many loved their clothing style and concept adding to their vast creativity and innovation expertise. soon, many people started to ask where they came from. Afraid from being discriminated as coming from Cebu and Bisaya, they covered up their origins just so to survive in Manila and struggle to compete with homegrown brands and Filipinos' penchant for imported brands. but as soon as they have established themselves well, it was time for them to shed some light and today, Penshoppe is proud to be a world-class Cebuano brand.

another one, although it didn't deny being a Cebuano, the Aldeguers of the chic Loalde brand. many people couldn't believe that they are actually a Cebuano brand. ;)

AmbutLang
September 13th, 2010, 06:20 AM
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Amisa ni Mike?

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 13th, 2010, 06:20 AM
^^
amisa na sir @fred. :)

Henz
September 13th, 2010, 06:26 AM
well, one specific example is Penshoppe. i read one article a couple of months ago about the humble beginnings of one of the country's well-known clothing brands, Penshoppe. Penshoppe is owned by a Cebuano entrepreneur Bernie Liu and started out as a small clothing store in VisMin. he decided to invade Manila and rented a stall in one of the Robinsons malls in the metro practically because John Gokongwei is also a Cebuano but its first boutique was at SM North Edsa. Liu and some of his friends started small but eventually became a major hit amongst the younger generation. Many loved their clothing style and concept adding to their vast creativity and innovation expertise. soon, many people started to ask where they came from. Afraid from being discriminated as coming from Cebu and Bisaya, they covered up their origins just so to survive in Manila and struggle to compete with homegrown brands and Filipinos' penchant for imported brands. but as soon as they have established themselves well, it was time for them to shed some light and today, Penshoppe is proud to be a world-class Cebuano brand.

another one, although it didn't deny being a Cebuano, the Aldeguers of the chic Loalde brand. many people couldn't believe that they are actually a Cebuano brand. ;)


And of course.. Memo, Oxygen, and the Regatta brands are proud Cebu..

icarusrising
September 13th, 2010, 06:40 AM
well, one specific example is Penshoppe. i read one article a couple of months ago about the humble beginnings of one of the country's well-known clothing brands, Penshoppe. Penshoppe is owned by a Cebuano entrepreneur Bernie Liu and started out as a small clothing store in VisMin. he decided to invade Manila and rented a stall in one of the Robinsons malls in the metro practically because John Gokongwei is also a Cebuano but its first boutique was at SM North Edsa. Liu and some of his friends started small but eventually became a major hit amongst the younger generation. Many loved their clothing style and concept adding to their vast creativity and innovation expertise. soon, many people started to ask where they came from. Afraid from being discriminated as coming from Cebu and Bisaya, they covered up their origins just so to survive in Manila and struggle to compete with homegrown brands and Filipinos' penchant for imported brands. but as soon as they have established themselves well, it was time for them to shed some light and today, Penshoppe is proud to be a world-class Cebuano brand.

another one, although it didn't deny being a Cebuano, the Aldeguers of the chic Loalde brand. many people couldn't believe that they are actually a Cebuano brand. ;)

IMO, they're in the clothing industry and had trendy teenagers as the main target market so it's more of the preference of the Pinoys for imported goods. I noticed their sizes are bigger than say, Bench. What I could buy as the usual size for me at other stores would be too loose if I get it from Penshoppe. They projected themselves as an international if not American company. The store designs then also conveyed this image. At one time they even had Mandy Moore do their TV ad. I don't think Vina Morales had to go through the same packaging just to be accepted. I've always known her for being Cebuano even during her That's Entertainment days.

no.1ta
September 13th, 2010, 07:01 AM
well, one specific example is Penshoppe. i read one article a couple of months ago about the humble beginnings of one of the country's well-known clothing brands, Penshoppe. Penshoppe is owned by a Cebuano entrepreneur Bernie Liu and started out as a small clothing store in VisMin. he decided to invade Manila and rented a stall in one of the Robinsons malls in the metro practically because John Gokongwei is also a Cebuano but its first boutique was at SM North Edsa. Liu and some of his friends started small but eventually became a major hit amongst the younger generation. Many loved their clothing style and concept adding to their vast creativity and innovation expertise. soon, many people started to ask where they came from. Afraid from being discriminated as coming from Cebu and Bisaya, they covered up their origins just so to survive in Manila and struggle to compete with homegrown brands and Filipinos' penchant for imported brands. but as soon as they have established themselves well, it was time for them to shed some light and today, Penshoppe is proud to be a world-class Cebuano brand.

another one, although it didn't deny being a Cebuano, the Aldeguers of the chic Loalde brand. many people couldn't believe that they are actually a Cebuano brand. ;)

i love that shirt man.. Penshoppe rules back in the 80's, everybody has one or want one.:righton:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 13th, 2010, 07:12 AM
^^ same here sir buddy. but i only got 1 shirt from em! :D

And of course.. Memo, Oxygen, and the Regatta brands are proud Cebu..

yea bro but i think these brands came in just recently or perhaps, this decade. penshoppe started in the clothing business in the 80's, to be exact, 1986. :)

ormocanon
September 13th, 2010, 07:19 AM
Penshoppe also came out with the coolest radio and TV ads along with Wacky shirt. I remember that W-A-CK-Y ad at Y101 mixed with the song "Shoop Shoop Diddy Wah Coma Coma Wang Dang." Penshoppe's first TV ad was "I'm Alive" featuring a group of young Cebuanos dancing at a local beach. Nindot sad ang full-page ads nila sa Panorama magazine featuring good-looking Cebu models who could give their Manila counterparts a run for their money. :)

Penshoppe began featuring Manila models for their theme "Express Yourself" (sung by Madonna). Kada tuig duna silay theme sa promos nila apan karon wala na.

Which reminds me, whatever happened to Wacky?

Sleepwalker
September 13th, 2010, 07:22 AM
I noticed their sizes are bigger than say, Bench.

Especially if we talk about men's underwear, Penshoppe sizes are fit for Cebuanos...:lol:

i love that shirt man.. Penshoppe rules back in the 80's, everybody has one or want one.:righton:

Gawas sa shirt, ang lavacara/bullcap nga naa'y logo nga Penshoppe mao pud trend atong panahon nako. :)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 13th, 2010, 07:40 AM
guys, just curious, naa bay hollister boutique sa pilipinas? i know, there is none right now in cebu and i have never seen one in manila. naa ba sa manila? thanks :)

no.1ta
September 13th, 2010, 08:09 AM
Especially if we talk about men's underwear, Penshoppe sizes are fit for Cebuanos...:lol:



Gawas sa shirt, ang lavacara/bullcap nga naa'y logo nga Penshoppe mao pud trend atong panahon nako. :)

sa kapanahonan nako if you talking about Penshoppe...sa T-shirt na sila na well known bai, that's how they started.:cheers:

Linguine
September 13th, 2010, 08:50 AM
looks very familiar......


Menu Lebaran kali ini....Buras vs Ketupat
sayang, opor ayam n sayur lodehnya ga kejepret :nuts: :lol:

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mwg12a
September 13th, 2010, 09:19 AM
And of course.. Memo, Oxygen, and the Regatta brands are proud Cebu..

I thought these are foreign brands including penshoppe, good to know it is filipino and a Cebuano brand of clothing. I actually like their clothings myself as well as Oxygen. I don't know about Memo and Regatta though, i think this is the fist time I've heard of it.

Henz
September 13th, 2010, 09:36 AM
I thought these are foreign brands including penshoppe, good to know it is filipino and a Cebuano brand of clothing. I actually like their clothings myself as well as Oxygen. I don't know about Memo and Regatta though, i think this is the fist time I've heard of it.

Memo is designed for office clothing. Target market are the young urban professionals. Actually i love their clothes.. i buy regularly from them, sa mga office attires na naa lang sa "cross over".. which means.. dili sya masyadong formal but dili sad sya pang regular lang na attire.

Ang "Regatta" new acquisition nila.. which is designed for active, sports lifestyle..

Naa sad sila for ladies.."Forme" .. si Judy Ann Santos ang endorser..

and lately naa sila Direct Selling Outfit " RED LOGO"...

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 13th, 2010, 10:13 AM
^^
really? Forme? a cebuano brand? cool! who owns regatta and forme diay bro? ;)

SleMarKen
September 13th, 2010, 11:04 AM
looks very familiar......

yeah, PUSO is their Aidilfitri Symbol...

The never ending united efforts of Cebu's LGU and private sector to bring Cebu higher in terms of tourism.

"Windows of Cebu" reminds of "Windows of the World" in Shenzhen City, China.

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CCCI to create programs to reinvent Cebu tourism (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=611544&publicationSubCategoryId=108)
By Ehda M. Dagooc (The Freeman) Updated September 13, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)

CEBU, Philippines – The Cebu Chamber of Commerce and Industry (CCCI) tourism committee is set to initiate an intensive tourism program to spruce up Cebu's edge in the industry in preparation for the anticipated recovery of the international tourism market.

CCCI tourism committee chairperson Mila Espina said that the committee will start introducing at least four sub-programs to re-invent Cebu tourism to fit today's changing needs of tourists.

In partnership with tourism stakeholders in Cebu and the local government units (LGUs) in both the Cebu City and Cebu Provincial governments, Cebu will introduce the "Hop-on/Hop-off" program that will give tourists' convenience in hopping from one attraction to another.

According to Espina, the committee will also introduce the creation of "Windows of Cebu" facility that will showcase all the prime attraction of Cebu in one place, to give some tourists a glimpse of what Cebu can offer.

Patterned after the facilities of great tourism destinations in the world, where a one-stop-shop of venue will display all the attractions in one place, including the iconic land-marks, heritage and culture, the facility is seen to make Cebu a truly world-class destination.

According to Espina, since the creation of "Windows of Cebu" would entail significant budget, stakeholders will seek the help from both LGU and the national government, specifically that the Aquino administration made its promise to help Cebu's tourism sector.

Earlier, The Republic of the Philippines' executive secretary Paquito N. Ochoa Jr., said the government has recognized Cebu's leadership in the tourism sector in the country.

"Last year, Cebu was the country's top tourist destination, with 1.6 million visitors, and it's not hard to see why you have a beautify City that is complemented by the kind of ward hospitality that makes visitors come back again and again," said Ochoa.

Espina said there is a need for Cebu to constantly re-invent itself in terms of attracting tourist.

Significantly, she said Cebu will also pioneer in introducing "green tourism" in the country, through the establishment of a "Creative Eco-Tour," that will showcase all the environment and health-friendly initiatives by Cebuanos, such as the eco-house of former Cebu City Councilor Nestor Archival, and some distinct eco-icons in Cebu.

Espina said there are a lot of eco-facilities that environment-savvy tourists will love to go to, including the high-land organic farm of Rene Mercado, an organic restaurant, the eco-adventure package or the famous Zip-line facility in Balamban, among others.

Espina said there is a dire need to introduce new packages to the changing interest of tourists. These programs will be added on top of the conventional tour package being offered by the tourism sellers or tour operators now.

Also, another project is to put up "Information Networking Center" in major areas all over Metro Cebu to give tourists access to information about Cebu's tourism, including where to stay, dine; how to get to a certain destination; safety measures; data base of restaurants, hotels, among others.

Espina said this information should readily be made available to tourists. One facility may be set up in the airport, port area, transportation terminals, among others. (FREEMAN)



yeah!
The HO HO or the Hop-on/Hop-off program - KL launched the same program a year ago and they're very successful.

The Creative Eco-Tour program - same with their Langkawi Geopark tour packages.

And the Windows of Cebu program - same with Taipei's WINDOWS ON CHINA that features China, Taiwan and some of the world's famous sites in miniature in one location...:okay:

:cheers:

Henz
September 13th, 2010, 11:08 AM
^^
really? Forme? a cebuano brand? cool! who owns regatta and forme diay bro? ;)


Golden ABC Corp.

Mao na sya ang parent company sa brands Penshoppe, Oxygen, Memo, Forme, Regatta and Red Logo..

By the way, Wacky which was popular a few years back closed shop. They did not survive the competition posed by Island Souvenirs. Kulas and the Bisaya Ispisyal brand.:)

SleMarKen
September 13th, 2010, 11:09 AM
well, one specific example is Penshoppe. i read one article a couple of months ago about the humble beginnings of one of the country's well-known clothing brands, Penshoppe. Penshoppe is owned by a Cebuano entrepreneur Bernie Liu and started out as a small clothing store in VisMin. he decided to invade Manila and rented a stall in one of the Robinsons malls in the metro practically because John Gokongwei is also a Cebuano but its first boutique was at SM North Edsa. Liu and some of his friends started small but eventually became a major hit amongst the younger generation. Many loved their clothing style and concept adding to their vast creativity and innovation expertise. soon, many people started to ask where they came from. Afraid from being discriminated as coming from Cebu and Bisaya, they covered up their origins just so to survive in Manila and struggle to compete with homegrown brands and Filipinos' penchant for imported brands. but as soon as they have established themselves well, it was time for them to shed some light and today, Penshoppe is proud to be a world-class Cebuano brand.

another one, although it didn't deny being a Cebuano, the Aldeguers of the chic Loalde brand. many people couldn't believe that they are actually a Cebuano brand. ;)

How about HABAGAT bro? What's their business story. A family friend but dunno how they started with their business... :dunno:

Sleepwalker
September 13th, 2010, 11:13 AM
How about HABAGAT bro? What's their business story. A family friend but dunno how they started with their business... :dunno:

Habagat Outdoor Equipment is one of the testaments of Cebuano's quality workmanship. As I mentioned before, would be great if Habagat would venture into a wider variety of outdoor products and even mountain bikes. :)

They started out from a garage in Mabini St.(???) with a second hand sewing machine and 4,000 pesos capital.

SleMarKen
September 13th, 2010, 11:23 AM
^^yeah, idol nakong habagat kay lig on gyud kaayo. Samot na free pa perme nya special design pa...hehehe

BTW, the owner of Habagat is a mountaineer. Ka grupo nila si Leo Oracion, the 1st Filipino to reach the summit of Mt. Everest last 2006...:okay:

Sleepwalker
September 13th, 2010, 12:02 PM
^^Yep. Idol pud ni nako ang habagat. Cool pud kaayo sila og slogan: "Built by hand, tested by nature".

Naka-engganyo nako og duha nako ka-kauban diri nga non-Pinoy. Og nakapalit gud sila og hydropack gikan sa Habagat..So far, wa pa tawon maguba, mag-two years na nila og gamit sa biking.

Sa Habagat pud ko ningpalit og fleece nga sweater...Heheheh

lowellflores
September 13th, 2010, 12:50 PM
Naka hinundom pako palit ug sandals ug bag nila sa habagat didto gyud ko nipalit sa ila tindahan or factory ba to diha likod sa STC, kay pag college lagi hilig man kat kat sa bukid. na ingon ako amigo ma ayo kuno ang klase ang habagat. hangtud karon ang bag na a gihapon pero ako sandal gikawat lang.

donut_bai
September 13th, 2010, 03:02 PM
I knew Penshoppe and Loalde was a Cebuano brand eversince. As far as I can remember back in the 90's, I always visit their displays first everytime I go shopping in Gaisano. Usually my student budget just doesn't level up so I end up buying the Guitar brand instead. :lol:

I guess that is one good thing of being "regionalistic". Patronizing ones own. No wonder many Cebuano businesses trive today. :banana: :banana: :banana:

Henz
September 13th, 2010, 04:18 PM
I knew Penshoppe and Loalde was a Cebuano brand eversince. As far as I can remember back in the 90's, I always visit their displays first everytime I go shopping in Gaisano. Usually my student budget just doesn't level up so I end up buying the Guitar brand instead. :lol:

I guess that is one good thing of being "regionalistic". Patronizing ones own. No wonder many Cebuano businesses trive today. :banana: :banana: :banana:

Exactly.. when i am in Manila.. when i would like to chill in a coffeeshop i will always try to find BO's Coffee..... In this way, we got to buy cheaper coffee in the same ambiance as Starbucks... likewise help a Cebuano business thrive.. di ba?

SleMarKen
September 13th, 2010, 05:51 PM
CIT and UC tops again :cheers:


TUP grad tops list of 1,594 new mechanical engineers (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/200946/tup-grad-tops-list-of-1594-new-mechanical-engineers?utm_source=GMANews.TV&utm_medium=facebook)

A graduate from the Technological University of the Philippines (TUP) in Manila topped this year’s list of 1,594 successful examinees in the Mechanical Engineering Licensure Examinations, the Professional Regulation Commission (PRC) announced on Monday.

A total of 2,387 took the exams given by the Board of Mechanical Engineering in Manila and Cebu this month, the PRC said.


TUP-Manila’s Ivan dela Cruz Marasigan topped the list with 93.35 percentage rating, followed by Roselle Victor Cultura Lague of Xavier University with 92.80 percent.

Tied at third place were Alvin John Narvasa Alcorcon of University of Cebu and Apollo Catarman Eleazar Jr. of Mindanao State University-General Santos City, both with 91.40 percent.

Others in the top 10 were:

4. Bernhard Ramos Cortez of Bulacan State University-Malolos and Daryl Borcelis Gamez of Bicol University-Legazpi with 91.10 percent;

5. Erwin Mark Dagsa Jacildone of Saint Louis University and Ariel Fernandez Parreño of TUP-Visayas with 91.05 percent;

6. Dexter Endraca Estolonio of TUP-Manila with 90.95 percent;

7. Glenn Ivan Vergara Pasia of TUP-Manila with 90.50 percent;

8. Christian Nick Arradaza Marasigan of Cebu Institute of Technology with 90.45 percent;

9. Mamerto Siacor Valdevia Jr. of West Negros College with 90.15 percent; and

10. Rannie Luzares Banzon of Cebu Institute of Technology with 90.10 percent.

- KBK, GMANews.TV

MatudNilaBaby
September 13th, 2010, 06:11 PM
^^ same here sir buddy. but i only got 1 shirt from em! :D



yea bro but i think these brands came in just recently or perhaps, this decade. penshoppe started in the clothing business in the 80's, to be exact, 1986. :)

my memo shirt is my special shirt cuz you cant get it here. i always get it as my birthday present.

Sleepwalker
September 13th, 2010, 07:04 PM
Guys, I know it is too early to really judge Mayor Rama. But I believe most of us here will really agree that his priorities are something that we hope his admin will sustain.

Pasensyahi kung hutdon nako og butang ang mga maayong balita gikan sa The Freeman nga site.

Is this the beginning of the new Cebu?

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Some T. Padilla roads widened (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=611924&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
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Taboan market's illegal structures demolished (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=611925&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
By Rene U. Borromeo/BRP (The Freeman) Updated September 14, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)


CCPO starts roundup of 'rugby boys,' vagrants (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=611932&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
By Niña G. Sumacot/WAB (The Freeman) Updated September 14, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)

Sleepwalker
September 13th, 2010, 07:06 PM
Patent libraries to boost Cebu's ICT sector (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=611918&publicationSubCategoryId=108)
By Ehda M. Dagooc (The Freeman) Updated September 14, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)

CEBU, Philippines – The establishment of patent libraries in Cebu, through the network of innovation and technology support offices (ITSOs) is seen to boost Cebu's Information Technology and Communication (ICT) sector.

The ITSOs, a technical assistance mission from the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), will provide a broad range of services include advice on the innovation process from idea conception to product commercialization, protecting innovation through the use of patent system, provision of access to technical information, assistance in patent search for technical information, advice and training on Intellectual Property Rights (IPO).

After Cebu was recognized by WIPO as one of the pilot areas in the country to have the ITSOs, industry stakeholders expressed confidence that the establishment of the facil-ity here will fast tract Cebu's bid becoming a world-class ICT destination.

Department of Trade and Industry (DTI-Cebu Provincial Office) director Nelia F. Navarro said WIPO together with her agency have already identified sites where the ITSOs will be located. Possible host institutions include in the academe sector, industry support organizations like PhilExport-Cebu office, at the Mactan Economic Zone (MEZ) and other areas.

The establishment of ITSOs is also seen to build on the institutional capacities of universities, research and development institutions, government field offices, industry service providers, consultants and associations to teach and conduct patent searches, patent drafting and provide assistance in patent prosecution.

At the same time, the local technological base is strengthened by building up local know-how to create, own and manage their IPRs.

Since, Cebu is still on the early stage in building itself as the next "Silicon Valley", Navarro said developers, as well as companies need to have a good manual for possible innovations, of which similar concept are being half-way developed by other innovation experts around the world.

The facility, will give Cebuano ICT players, including companies to access the global science and technology information that are legally available for "copying".



"Instead of spending money for broad and massive and time consuming research, innovators, R&D developers, academe, and even companies can access the patent library based on their desired technology that needs to be developed," Navarro said.

The patent library, formally called as ITSOs offer 70 million canned documents that can be accessed by Cebuano developers, ICT experts, academe and any other interested parties, Navarro said.

Gregg Gabison, University of San Jose Recoletos (USJR) dean for College of Information, Computer and Communications Technology (CICCT) said that the ITSOs in Cebu could boost the knowledge creation, and fuel realization of researches from academe that is moving up for commercialization.

The existence of patent library in Cebu established by WIPO will also provide wide exposure of Cebu-based developers to existing technology that would serve as reference to potential developments in the ICT sector.

ITSOs serve as the institutional mechanism to demystify and democratize the patent system with the end in view of making it an effective tool for technological, socio-cultural, and economic development. (FREEMAN)

MatudNilaBaby
September 13th, 2010, 08:18 PM
Patent libraries to boost Cebu's ICT sector (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=611918&publicationSubCategoryId=108)
By Ehda M. Dagooc (The Freeman) Updated September 14, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)

CEBU, Philippines – The establishment of patent libraries in Cebu, through the network of innovation and technology support offices (ITSOs) is seen to boost Cebu's Information Technology and Communication (ICT) sector.

The ITSOs, a technical assistance mission from the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), will provide a broad range of services include advice on the innovation process from idea conception to product commercialization, protecting innovation through the use of patent system, provision of access to technical information, assistance in patent search for technical information, advice and training on Intellectual Property Rights (IPO).

After Cebu was recognized by WIPO as one of the pilot areas in the country to have the ITSOs, industry stakeholders expressed confidence that the establishment of the facil-ity here will fast tract Cebu's bid becoming a world-class ICT destination.

Department of Trade and Industry (DTI-Cebu Provincial Office) director Nelia F. Navarro said WIPO together with her agency have already identified sites where the ITSOs will be located. Possible host institutions include in the academe sector, industry support organizations like PhilExport-Cebu office, at the Mactan Economic Zone (MEZ) and other areas.

The establishment of ITSOs is also seen to build on the institutional capacities of universities, research and development institutions, government field offices, industry service providers, consultants and associations to teach and conduct patent searches, patent drafting and provide assistance in patent prosecution.

At the same time, the local technological base is strengthened by building up local know-how to create, own and manage their IPRs.

Since, Cebu is still on the early stage in building itself as the next "Silicon Valley", Navarro said developers, as well as companies need to have a good manual for possible innovations, of which similar concept are being half-way developed by other innovation experts around the world.

The facility, will give Cebuano ICT players, including companies to access the global science and technology information that are legally available for "copying".



"Instead of spending money for broad and massive and time consuming research, innovators, R&D developers, academe, and even companies can access the patent library based on their desired technology that needs to be developed," Navarro said.

The patent library, formally called as ITSOs offer 70 million canned documents that can be accessed by Cebuano developers, ICT experts, academe and any other interested parties, Navarro said.

Gregg Gabison, University of San Jose Recoletos (USJR) dean for College of Information, Computer and Communications Technology (CICCT) said that the ITSOs in Cebu could boost the knowledge creation, and fuel realization of researches from academe that is moving up for commercialization.

The existence of patent library in Cebu established by WIPO will also provide wide exposure of Cebu-based developers to existing technology that would serve as reference to potential developments in the ICT sector.

ITSOs serve as the institutional mechanism to demystify and democratize the patent system with the end in view of making it an effective tool for technological, socio-cultural, and economic development. (FREEMAN)

maayo ni nga resource para sa atong mga dagkong eskuwelahan nga nagproduce sa atong mga it professionals. kinahanglang global standards gyud atong basihan sa atong education so we can be competitive bisan asa for domestic or foreign consumption. mag-ayo mag-anad ta kay lisud kon maanad ta sa local standard and to think nga maayo na gyud ta. ma shock ka sa reality nga layo pa diay ta mga advance countries.

bakasaurus
September 14th, 2010, 02:31 AM
Mura lage og gitagsa tagsa na og check ni Mayor Rama ang atoang wishlist diri sa SSC hahaha.

Sleepwalker
September 14th, 2010, 04:11 AM
The Road to El Dorado
SRP, Cebu City
flickr photo by Ribcage

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/4980410251_a2543c8d15.jpg

Another Pano for Cebu City
flickr photo by jesusfreak1543

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4126/4986222380_2d7c538b3b_b.jpg

The Most Photogenic Squatters Area (courtesy of the good ex-Mayor of the city)
Lapu-lapu City, Cebu
flickr photo by jesusfreak1543

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/4986172212_46edd5691f_b.jpg

bulbasaur
September 14th, 2010, 04:17 AM
Good Evening Cebuanos!
:)

MAY NABASA AKO SA THREAD NA TO, ABOUT DUN SA

REPUBLIC OF CEBU

^^
:ohno:

Ayaw niyo po bang mapabilang sa Pilipinas? Hindi po ba kayo Proud na maging isang PINOY? Wala naman pong dahilan upang kayo'y tumiwalag sa Bansa at gumawa ng sariling Republika. Ang Cebu ay may malaking ginampanan sa kasaysayan ng ating Bansa, Lubos kong hinahangaan ang Cebu. Kinahihiya niyo po ba ang Pilipinas? Nakakakit sa damdamin ng bawat Pinoy na nakiktang nitong kinahihiya nya ang kanyang bansa. Alam kong gusto niyo ng Gumawa ng isang bansa, ngunit hindi ito rason :ohno:

Ika nga:

UNITED WE STAND
DIVIDED WE FALL :)

To become a Filipino is TO BECOME A CEBUANO FIRST!

I am unique. I am Cebuano.




(sorry for the late reply.....)

Zuburbia
September 14th, 2010, 04:29 AM
Guys, I know it is too early to really judge Mayor Rama. But I believe most of us here will really agree that his priorities are something that we hope his admin will sustain.

Pasensyahi kung hutdon nako og butang ang mga maayong balita gikan sa The Freeman nga site.

Is this the beginning of the new Cebu?

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Some T. Padilla roads widened (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=611924&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
By Jessica Ann R. Pareja/BRP (The Freeman) Updated September 14, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)


Taboan market's illegal structures demolished (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=611925&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
By Rene U. Borromeo/BRP (The Freeman) Updated September 14, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)


CCPO starts roundup of 'rugby boys,' vagrants (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=611932&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
By Niña G. Sumacot/WAB (The Freeman) Updated September 14, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)

kadungog ko ani sa TV... ang mga namuyo sa Taboan nga gihimong balay ang mga tindahan gipapahawa na nya ang mga illegal structures kuno sa sidewalks gipangdemolish..nindot ni! Political will jud bah! abi natog isog si Tomas pero murag mas naa may kusog si Mayor Rama. :banana:

Zuburbia
September 14th, 2010, 04:32 AM
Mura lage og gitagsa tagsa na og check ni Mayor Rama ang atoang wishlist diri sa SSC hahaha.

dili ba kaha na siya tigbasa diri sa SSC? :lol:

Sleepwalker
September 14th, 2010, 04:55 AM
kadungog ko ani sa TV... ang mga namuyo sa Taboan nga gihimong balay ang mga tindahan gipapahawa na nya ang mga illegal structures kuno sa sidewalks gipangdemolish..nindot ni! Political will jud bah! abi natog isog si Tomas pero murag mas naa may kusog si Mayor Rama. :banana:

Naa pud to'y forte si Tomas. Wala lang gud sa iya priority ang pagpanghinlo sa siyudad... :)

Linguine
September 14th, 2010, 05:02 AM
Cebu resort owners: Guest cancellations temporary

Written by Wilfredo Rodolfo III / Reporter
Monday, 13 September 2010 10:17

OFFICERS of one of the top resorts in Mactan Island in Cebu said they are confident the negative effects to room reservations brought about by the bungled Aug. 23 hostage crisis in Manila will pass as shown by the steadily increasing demand for accommodations.

Plantation Bay Resort and Spa general manager Efren Belarmino said that although the resort, along with many others in Mactan, experienced cancellations from Chinese and Hong Kong guests, he believes the setback is only temporary.

“We are affected, but we believe the numbers will return and cover the lost-room nights,” Belarmino said.

Plantation Bay reported some 164 room nights’ worth of cancellations since last month’s hostage crisis and the travel ban issued by Hong Kong authorities.

He said occupancy rate in the resort is still a good 60 percent despite the crisis and the traditional lean months. The numbers are buoyed by the continued increase in Korean tourists, as well as Japanese and American visitors. Local tourists also remain steady, with a 30-percent share of the guests in the resort.

The worst-ever experience of the resort was during the height of the Asian economic crisis with occupancy levels dropping to as low as 10 percent.

Plantation Bay has 256 rooms sprawled over an 8-hectare property centered around 3.5 hectares of saltwater lagoons. The resort is the only wholly Filipino-owned and managed triple A resort in Mactan Island.

The resort was recently awarded the best medium-sized employer in the Visayas by the Social Security System (SSS) and its “Kabalikat sa Tuwid na Landas sa Pagbangon ng Pilipinas” award. The resort was also named one of the top five taxpayers in Lapu-Lapu City. The resort has close to 450 employees.

Belarmino said that while the long-term prospect for Cebu’s tourism industry is bright, the resort is also considering pursuing expansion plans in the future. The resort is only fully utilizing six of the total 8-hectare property, leaving more room for expansion. The facility is also undergoing renovations in several of its accommodation units and villas.

The local government of Lapu-Lapu City which covers Mactan Island has launched a campaign together with resorts and hotels in the city to encourage domestic tourism by offering as much as 50-percent off on room rates until Dec. 15.

The promo is aimed at covering the slack created by cancellations from Hong Kong and Chinese tour groups, Mayor Paz Radaza said.

Earlier, resorts and hotels in Mactan Island in Lapu-Lapu City, Cebu, were reported to be cutting their room tariffs by half to lure domestic tourists and make up for canceled reservations in the aftermath of the Quirino Grandstand hostage crisis.

Radaza said the tourism-recovery initiative of the city is the proactive way for the city to recover its losses rather than blame other government agencies for the fiasco.

“The program aims to tap domestic tourists while foreign tourist arrivals slow down for the next three to six months,” Radaza said. “The city government will also be meeting with other tourism players such as dive shops, restaurants, boat operators, souvenir shops to invite them to join the program by providing big discounts to domestic tourists.

The hotel discounts are from Sept. 20 to Dec. 15 and will be limited to a certain number of accommodations.

Hotels and resorts in Mactan reported negative effects after the hostage-taking and the succeeding travel advisory against traveling to the Philippines.

Waterfront Airport Hotel alone reported 600 room-night cancellations for September. Another resort reported P1.6 million in losses so far.

Dong Fang Philippines, a tourism- marketing group focusing on China and Hong Kong, is also experiencing a 40-percent cancellation rate of their weekly chartered flight from Hong Kong and China to Cebu.

Tourism is Lapu-Lapu City’s biggest industry, with the country’s best resorts like Shangri-La Mactan Resort and Spa, Hilton Cebu, and Plantation Bay Resort and Spa located in the city.

On Aug. 27 the Lapu-Lapu City Police Office and the Lapu-Lapu City SWAT Team, through the request of the mayor, conducted a simulated hostage-rescue drill in the presence of the general managers (GMs) from the various hotels and resorts in the city.

After the demonstration, Radaza met with the GMs in her office to unveil her proposed plan to cushion the impact of the tourism crisis. “It is an initiative which targets the potential of the domestic tourism market while waiting for international tourism to be on a rebound,” Radaza said.

After the meeting, the Lapu-Lapu City Tourism Commission and representatives from the Office of the City Mayor met with the sales managers of all the major stakeholders, including a representative of the airline industry, to get their commitment for the discount program.

Cebu Pacific committed to bring media to Lapu-Lapu while the resorts also agreed to host local media from other cities during the promotional phase of the program.

Island Souvenirs will also come up with several T-shirt designs for approval by the city. It will highlight the promotional program.


http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/regions/1204-cebu-resort-owners-guest-cancellations-temporary

Eastern Dragon
September 14th, 2010, 05:57 AM
dili ta mahadlok aning dip sa tourism sa cebu.

temporary ra na. after all, we are not the philippines. we are an island in the pacific. :)

icarusrising
September 14th, 2010, 06:04 AM
dili ta mahadlok aning dip sa tourism sa cebu.

temporary ra na. after all, we are not the philippines. we are an island in the pacific. :)

Maybe the different parts of the Philippines should just promote themselves as islands in the Pacific. Since most countries are already playing up their Asian heritage to attract tourists, we might as well promote ourselves as Pacific Islanders as a counterpoint.

icarusrising
September 14th, 2010, 06:14 AM
The Most Photogenic Squatters Area (courtesy of the good ex-Mayor of the city)
Lapu-lapu City, Cebu
flickr photo by jesusfreak1543

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/4986172212_46edd5691f_b.jpg[/CENTER]

Certainly nothing to be ashamed of. It's pretty and depicts life as it really is. Other Asian countries promote them to tourists as water villages. :cheers:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
September 14th, 2010, 07:21 AM
CIT and UC tops again :cheers:


TUP grad tops list of 1,594 new mechanical engineers (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/200946/tup-grad-tops-list-of-1594-new-mechanical-engineers?utm_source=GMANews.TV&utm_medium=facebook)
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CONGRATULATIONS CITU AND UC!!!!
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:



kadungog ko ani sa TV... ang mga namuyo sa Taboan nga gihimong balay ang mga tindahan gipapahawa na nya ang mga illegal structures kuno sa sidewalks gipangdemolish..nindot ni! Political will jud bah! abi natog isog si Tomas pero murag mas naa may kusog si Mayor Rama. :banana:

hehe... and bec. of that i remembered something, 'rama' is spanish for branch. pambunalan og puthaw nga sang-a ang dili mutuman sa balaod! :lol::lol::lol:

slimer
September 14th, 2010, 10:16 AM
btw, nag-open na diay ang 4D theater sa SM nga Super Max Rider. lain-lain daw rides to choose from according sa mga blogs ako nabasa. and it cost P120 for 5 minutes.

i took this last june.

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6321/sm4d.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/sm4d.jpg/)

diehardbisdak
September 14th, 2010, 10:30 AM
random flickr pics...


pic by @DHackettNYC
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4148/4987513086_cabddb8709_z.jpg


pics by @EcKS! the Shipspotter
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/4986520921_c1bb98ec17_z.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/4983457250_2708801fb6_z.jpg


pic by @Ahia
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/4982268496_085b343b09_z.jpg


pic by @DonTaks
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/4981872260_90de7a0d8b_b.jpg


pic by @ampdeck
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/4977244124_40941569ef_z.jpg

OtAkAw
September 14th, 2010, 10:36 AM
Hello mga bai, we'll be backpacking around Cebu this December and we're looking for nice transient homes or bed/breakfasts. Could you suggest any? Preferably near the Cebu city downtown. Thanks so much :)

diehardbisdak
September 14th, 2010, 10:46 AM
Hello mga bai, we'll be backpacking around Cebu this December and we're looking for nice transient homes or bed/breakfasts. Could you suggest any? Preferably near the Cebu city downtown. Thanks so much :)

^^ there's one affordable Bed & Bath type of accomodation very near SM City Cebu (about 300 to 400 meters)...it's SUGBUTEL...price range: P200 to P300 a day...very accessible to both downtown and uptown Cebu City...it's recommended for group tour / backpackers / tourists with shoestring budget... now, they have a promo (1st anniversary) for P99/day extended until December 2010...

here's the contact details:

Telephone Number : +63.32.232.8888 (trunkline)
Mobile Number : +63.917.629.9961 (mobile)
Email Address : reservations@sugbutel.com

check out their website: www.sugbutel.com

Jarenz
September 14th, 2010, 11:55 AM
Simply the beauty of Cebu . . .



http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4146/4984676707_09c2080e30_o.jpg


old aerials but worth sharing

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/MarkiiBoi4/46804_10150282873080193_512405192_14818537_6069903_n.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/MarkiiBoi4/46804_10150282873085193_512405192_14818538_1378811_n.jpg

photos by Norwin Detalla, M.D.

The Road to El Dorado
SRP, Cebu City
flickr photo by Ribcage

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/4980410251_a2543c8d15.jpg






pic by @Ahia
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/4982268496_085b343b09_z.jpg


pic by @DonTaks
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/4981872260_90de7a0d8b_b.jpg


pic by @ampdeck
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/4977244124_40941569ef_z.jpg

:rock:


IMO, angay anaron ang mga Sugbuanon sa pagamit sa mga pulong nga atong Sugbo whenever we refer to Cebu

sakto

Linguine
September 14th, 2010, 02:02 PM
^^


Beautiful pics.....I never tire looking at them....:cheers::cheers:

Henz
September 14th, 2010, 02:21 PM
Hello mga bai, we'll be backpacking around Cebu this December and we're looking for nice transient homes or bed/breakfasts. Could you suggest any? Preferably near the Cebu city downtown. Thanks so much :)

SA Hidden Lodge pede kayo dun... or sa Queens Lodge.:)

Linguine
September 14th, 2010, 03:56 PM
Bias for NCR is RP’s most ‘oppressive’ poverty issue

Written by Cai U. Ordinario / Reporter
Tuesday, 14 September 2010 12:56

WHAT is a Metro Manila bias in the internal revenue allotment (IRA)? Whatever it is, it may be the “most oppressive” cause of poverty in the Philippines.

This is according to Dr. Romulo Virola, secretary-general of the National Statistical Coordination Board (NSCB). He defined “Metro Manila bias” as the imbalance in the allocation of the IRA where the rich local government units (LGUs) still receive the biggest portion of the IRA despite the fact they can generate enough revenue to meet their needs.

He said this takes away much-needed resources from poor towns that do not have enough population to merit larger allocations, and as a result these communities could not advance economically and remain poor.

“The current spatial imbalance in development may be a most oppressive cause of our poverty. Surely, some programs have tried to address this. The IRA is one scheme that has distributed national income to the regions outside of NCR [national capital region]. But despite some inroads, with detours every now and then, with leakages here and there, our overall development path cannot be sustainable,” wrote Virola in his online column “Statistically Speaking.”

Virola added, “Outcome indicators like poverty incidence, prevalence of malnutrition among 0- to 5-year-old children, and net participation rate in secondary schools show a better situation in Metro Manila.”

“We also see that Metro Manila cities have more resources so they have more options to improve health and education, and yet they receive more from the IRA such as the rich cities of Quezon City and Manila. The reason is the formula used that provides more allotment for those with bigger populations.”

Virola said the seven consistently biggest recipient cities are Quezon City, Davao, Manila, Zamboanga City, Caloocan, Puerto Princesa, and Cebu. Others in the top 10 are General Santos City and Cagayan de Oro, with Antipolo in  2008 and Iligan in 2007. 

The four richest cities in 2006 and 2007 were Quezon City, Makati, Manila, and Pasig. The next two were Paranaque and Davao. Consistently in the top 10 richest were Cebu, Caloocan, and Pasay, with Muntinlupa rounding up the top 10 in 2008 and Mandaluyong in 2007.

He said that despite the amount of resources that the richest cities in Metro Manila have, they do not allot more than 20 percent of their income on education, culture, and sports/manpower development. 

Urdaneta in Pangasinan is the only city that consistently spent more than 20 percent of its income on education, culture, and sports/manpower development, spending around 24 percent of its income on these sectors in 2007 and 26 percent in 2008. 

He added those who came close to Urdaneta’s spending on education in 2008 were Cabanatuan, Valenzuela, Calamba, Las Pinas, Makati, Tagaytay, Manila, La Carlota in Western Visayas, and Pasay; but all spent still less than Urdaneta at 16 percent of their total income on health, nutrition, and population control. The highest allocation for health among them in 2008 was by Cabanatuan at 15.4 percent. 

Las Piñas and Manila are the only two other cities that gave higher priority budgetary allocation to health aside from education. Completing the top 10 in terms of the proportion of income that went to health in 2008 were Bago in Western Visayas, Mandaluyong, General Santos City, Angeles, San Jose del Monte, Sorsogon City, and Island Garden of Samal in the Davao region.

Virola said Makati, Quezon City, Manila, and Pasig are consistently the cities with the highest total tax revenue. The next four are Paranaque, Pasay, Mandaluyong, and Caloocan. Also in the top 10 is Davao, with Muntinlupa rounding up the top 10 in 2008 and Cebu in 2007.


  http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/economy/1291-bias-for-ncr-is-rps-most-oppressive-poverty-issue

dobrava
September 15th, 2010, 04:04 AM
guys Im from Iloilo, Ill be going to Cebu next month. Im confused to what pension house I'll be going, my choices are: Westpont Inn, Gran Tierra Suites, and Kamuning House.
Which are good and convenient?
Thank you.