Cebú City and Province [Archive] - Page 301

Mercato

September 6th, 2010, 02:30 AM

duna na unya moy giandam nga state flag ug ang atong bag-ong nasudnong awit. unsa man gyud ang forma sa matang sa atong pang-governo ug unsa ang iyang benefits nga mahatag sa iyang katawhan? State flag is similar sa avatar ni fleshisweak. If not, we can adopt the Bonnie Blue Flag of the old Confederates (blue background with a single white star), I think you've seen it... Nasudnong awit, if I become dictator it will be Tierra Adorada. If not, then Yutang Tabunon. :lol:

Form of govt - 2 choices. I like strong govts minus the kuskos balungos. :) it works rapidly & with good time management. Singapore's Parliamentary republic (or the rest of the commonwealth as well) or France/ Finland's Presidential-Parliamentary system. All 3 nationstates are real strong republics, walay daghan kuskos balungos. We will also have the death penalty by public execution to instill fear and discipline - re hanging or lethal injection. :)

benefits? generally what you see singaporean or french citizens are enjoying these days. for the details let the parliament discuss it.

Mercato

September 6th, 2010, 02:46 AM

i meant the state seal, not the flag...and we can re-imagine it as a three-headed dragon (for the three major visayan groups) eating the sun while it rises from the sea...and perhaps it's tail could be coiled around an anchor to symbolize our people's maritime leanings... I think Bakunawa is common throughout the archipelago. It had been discussed in the Animal thread at heritage. The sigbin is endemic to Cebuanos. :) For a seal? How about the sundang of Lapulapu surrounded by Bisaya baybayin characters? Or how about one of those Pintado Tattoo designs? Hundreds of designs to choose from tingali. :lol:
^^ The bakunawa looks like a dragon. Incorporate that in the flag, it would look like Bhutan. :D
then we would all have to convert to buddhism. :rofl:
of course mga entertainers sila dapig gyud sila ni lola glo. ila pa gi apil ug mention si anabel mora ug dili siya masabunotan ni niya kay daghan raba kaayo siya ug gimanage nga mga artista so ila gyud nga gipatin-aw nga na misquoted lang siya. gi ango2x na gyod si lola glo kay ang cebuano raman iyang makita nga example. siya nalang pud unta to iyang gigamit aron walay dili siya ma persona non grata.

well this time careful na careful na sila sa pag-abli sa ilang ba2x. binawi kaagad ni carvajal ang iyang pasingit about caviteno. mo mana siya ug si inday badiday ug nawong. Awww, you know how these ugly faggots like to pontificate sa showbiz and manglibak sa isig ka tawo. Mga high society social climbers & namedroppers parejas atong paparazzi nga na'ay crush ni SleMarken sige'g papansin didto sa economy. :hilarious Kato bang giaway si sleepwalker nga "cebu is nothing without the country". Let them wallow in their own showbiz conceit. He who laughs last, laughs the best. :lol: :lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 6th, 2010, 03:18 AM

OT:

Il Corso Citta di Mare
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5w1dzhZ0h-0/THpApk2D61I/AAAAAAAAD08/wjJF-3MbbNY/s1600/CittaDiMare_TheBarnyard.jpg

now back to Citta di Mare, mayta'g masunod ni kining particular nga design no kay ganahan kaayo ko magsige'g tanaw. luxurious kaayo tanawon! :cheers:

masuya na ang masuya labi na katong mga hilig kaayo manaway sa mga sugbuanon. :D

Mercato

September 6th, 2010, 03:30 AM

^^^^ That design reminds me so much of Singapore's Vivocity in Harbourfront. Or else the newest, spankiest and very luxurious mall along the Las Vegas strip beside the Mandarin Oriental Las Vegas. :cheers2:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 6th, 2010, 03:34 AM

^^
lagi sir, hay can't wait til all of this finally done. waaaah, duol gyud ni sa amoa! pwede ra malakaw para wala'y kas plete! :lol::lol::lol:

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2350/39085148012621878016124.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6402/39085148012618544683124.jpg

and I also love some of the names of these "envisioned" establishments like The Meridian, The Barnyard, Eclipse among others. definitely catchy and at the same time hippy! :cheers:

and by the way mga bai, kumusta naman to ang kawit island development project? kinahanglan mabuhatan napud to siya og plano kay kilid gyud biya ni siya sa Il Corso. IMO mas musamot gyud og kanindot ang lugar kay dako kaayo ang possibility na isumpay to siya sa Il Corso!!!! waaaaaaah! grabe nako'g imagination! :lol::D:nuts:

Sleepwalker

September 6th, 2010, 03:51 AM

good news.....

Cebu airport sees continued arrival of Chinese tourists
Written by Recto Mercene / Reporter
Sunday, 05 September 2010 10:09

I like this news, because it does not only shows that Cebu is still growing as a tourist's destination, but it also shows that Manila is slowly losing grip as the only place that represents this country to the world.

So, someday, it will be like this: "Manila is not the Philippines...Philippines is not Manila".

Although, overall, i am still saddened by that tragedy. I still hope, our good officials of Manila could find a better way of regaining the glory of Manila.

RE: On the animal that could represent Cebu

My choice is the badger, althought it is not endemic to Cebu. Badger is so fierce that it has all the guts to fight with an opponent far too large than it. And i learned also of some badger that are a bit resistant to snake venoms.

A good symbol for Cebu, because Cebu is fierce enough to oppose/overcome big challenges. And Cebu is also resistant to whatever criticisms and back-biting.

RE: On Citta di Mare

I always feel excited to imagine about Cebu five years from now, base on the current proposals and development.

Maski og di ko ka-afford og unit sa Citta di Mare, pero ang Il Corso ako gi-apas.

Henz

September 6th, 2010, 04:01 AM

"Amalfi Residences" is the first project of FLI in the " Citta de Mare" complex. It is a 10 or more building five storey complex....

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 6th, 2010, 04:10 AM

RE: On Citta di Mare

I always feel excited to imagine about Cebu five years from now, base on the current proposals and development.

Maski og di ko ka-afford og unit sa Citta di Mare, pero ang Il Corso ako gi-apas.

mao gyud sir. ako pud. mao pud na akong gihuwat pag-ayo! pero ask lang ko, hasta piazza dili kasulod ang mga outsiders? exclusive for amalfi residents ra gyud?!

"Amalfi Residences" is the first project of FLI in the " Citta de Mare" complex. It is a 10 or more building five storey complex....

10 five-storey buildings? I thought 4-5 ra bro?! oh well mas maayo kung 10. hehe

kenken94

September 6th, 2010, 04:12 AM

Pero murag mas nice kung bisag ipareho nalang sa One Oasis gud nga tag 10F each.

Sleepwalker

September 6th, 2010, 04:18 AM

Every sector in Cebu is actively participating in making Cebu better.....

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Schools to help city on environment projects (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=609596&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
By Jessica Ann R. Pareja/JMO (The Freeman) Updated September 06, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)

CEBU, Philippines – The city government will extend the scope of the Suroy-Sapa Project, which was established in 1996 to rehabilitate the Guadalupe River.

This time around, the city will partner with different schools to rehabilitate other rivers here and for other environmental undertakings.

The schools include Cebu Normal University, Cebu Doctor's University, Cebu Institute of Technology, St. Theresa's College, Southwestern University, University of Cebu, University of San Carlos, University of San Jose Recoletos, University of Southern Philippines and the University of the Visayas.

leylander

September 6th, 2010, 04:24 AM

mausab na unya ni nga view...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/4956939083_846c25bfc1_z.jpg

kenken94

September 6th, 2010, 04:26 AM

^ Our unending and unconditional love for our Province is what drives us to the halls of fame. We innovate at an aggressive rate because we are one people. We take great pride and passion for our rich culture and heritage. An affront to our language is as each Cebuanos' responsibility to defend as our own honor. Our pride as a cultural majority is what makes us excel over others who try to put us down.

I am so happy that in all aspects, be it in business, politics, education and across all sectors........... all personal interests are set aside for the single aim of making Cebu better. We are an island of 3.7 Million passionate and patriotic people. We can excell further and gain more international fame as a people.

Continue pouring all those positive news to Cebu. :)

Sleepwalker

September 6th, 2010, 04:27 AM

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/4945444672_3ae3d117e1_z.jpg

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This is my first post ever! LOL

Thanks sa picture, newbie. Welcome to SSC-Cebu... :)

From this angle, klaro unya kaayo ang Robinson's Place-Maxilom ug ang mga kauban unya niya nga mga buildings... :)

kenken94

September 6th, 2010, 04:29 AM

mausab na unya ni nga view...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/4956939083_846c25bfc1_z.jpg

Once SM Prime and Filinvest start to pour down all those billions here in SRP. That place will greatly change in just a few years. I am excited to soon see T-Cranes lining up on SRP's skyline and see it boom with construction.:banana:

Sleepwalker

September 6th, 2010, 04:30 AM

Persimmon Update (http://thepersimmon.com.ph/Persimmon/index.php?p=619)

http://thepersimmon.com.ph/Persimmon/uploads/image/gallery_updates/north2.jpg

http://thepersimmon.com.ph/Persimmon/uploads/image/gallery_updates/north3.jpg

http://thepersimmon.com.ph/Persimmon/uploads/image/gallery_updates/north1.jpg

leylander

September 6th, 2010, 04:34 AM

Pabugnaw ta...

OBONG SPRING

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/4944920897_c2eec39473_z.jpg

romantic_guy08

September 6th, 2010, 05:14 AM

leviaragon

September 6th, 2010, 06:23 AM

is it true that Naga, Car-car and Bogo are back to being just municipalities?:ohno:
link..
http://cebulive.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/bogo-carcar-and-naga-are-towns-again/

marxman

September 6th, 2010, 08:27 AM

is it true that Naga, Car-car and Bogo are back to being just municipalities?:ohno:
link..
http://cebulive.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/bogo-carcar-and-naga-are-towns-again/

yes... im from naga. and yesterday supposedly ang charter day sa amo. ingon ang mayor, 'we lost the battle for cityhood'. amo charter day yesterday kay namimo nlng employee appreciation day and townwide birthday party ni mayor val chiong...

cge nlng... wala nay mahems... importante amo town mao pinakanindot na park sa tibuok cebu (i think... based sa ako mga nakit.an... hehe...).

ormocanon

September 6th, 2010, 08:35 AM

^^Pardon my ignorance, but I don't believe a world class city like Cebu, purportedly the best in RP doesn't have a park as presentable as Naga's.

zubuwood

September 6th, 2010, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by ISwitch View Post
there are already lots of opportunities in the provinces not to mention some online money making ventures such as e-whoring(just joking), the only reasons why people still like to migrate to metro manila is mainly because people in the province are ugly and they're hoping to mingle with good looks here in metro manila...syempre yun naman advantage ng syudad para lalong mapagastos yung mga kakabenta pa lang ng kalabaw...BTW, saangh banda ba yang cebu di ko pa naririnig yan? ang pangit pakinggan it's like tae or something(just kidding)

^^^^^^
This Guy wants to mess up with CEBU! tan. awa ang mga post sa kanahan sa Downtowns and Urban Center Thread.. Hambogiro kaayo maayong laki pud unya walay basihan ang Gipangsulti... :lol:

habagatcentral1

September 6th, 2010, 08:43 AM

^^ Di nya gets. Di ko rin sya gets. In other words, it would be hopeless to argue based on the arguments provided. Pabay-an na lang nako coz I've stated my opinion already. :colgate:

leylander

September 6th, 2010, 08:43 AM

yes... im from naga. and yesterday supposedly ang charter day sa amo. ingon ang mayor, 'we lost the battle for cityhood'. amo charter day yesterday kay namimo nlng employee appreciation day and townwide birthday party ni mayor val chiong...

cge nlng... wala nay mahems... importante amo town mao pinakanindot na park sa tibuok cebu (i think... based sa ako mga nakit.an... hehe...).

bitaw, hatag-bawi man ning styla. lol.

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IMO,

TOP 5 town squares/plazas kay

1. Argao
2. Sibonga
3. Naga
4. Bantayan
5. Carmen

dapat naa ni sila contest sa para panindotay sila ba

Sleepwalker

September 6th, 2010, 08:49 AM

This Guy wants to mess up with CEBU! tan. awa ang mga post sa kanahan sa Downtowns and Urban Center Thread.. Hambogiro kaayo maayong laki pud unya walay basihan ang Gipangsulti... :lol:

We will be going in circle, kung ato nang atubangon iyang gisulti. Medyo nalibog lang siguro gud siya.... :)

^^Pardon my ignorance, but I don't believe a world class city like Cebu, purportedly the best in RP doesn't have a park as presentable as Naga's.

Hmmmm, something like that bai. Well, we are hoping the revitalization of Plaza Independencia will turn out good, which was partially closed for the construction of the SRP tunnel.

What parks do we have are the likes of have Cebu Business Park, Asia Town IT Park and MCWD's Family Park... :)

ormocanon

September 6th, 2010, 08:54 AM

^^ Precisely. I consider Terraces a park too. So when @marxman said na pinakanindot ang park sa Naga, I thought it might be better than Terraces.

Sleepwalker

September 6th, 2010, 09:05 AM

^^Siguro, ang pasabot ni Marxman kay public parks. Kay usually, basta parks kay public man gud.

Sa mga pictures akong nakit-an, nindot gud hinoon ang plaza sa Naga, especially nga daplin pud siya og dagat. Maayong pagkahan-ay ug pagka-atiman.

ormocanon

September 6th, 2010, 09:24 AM

^^Ah ok, thanks for enlightening. :okay:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 6th, 2010, 10:33 AM

RE: parks. I am really hopeful for the "new" Plaza Independencia and the proposed rehabilitation and redesigning of Fuente Osmena to become Cebu's well managed parks in the future both in the downtown and uptown respectively.

and also, SRP has a lot of space to put up green parks. :cheers:

twIco

September 6th, 2010, 10:38 AM

bitaw, hatag-bawi man ning styla. lol.

---------------

IMO,

TOP 5 town squares/plazas kay

1. Argao
2. Sibonga
3. Naga
4. Bantayan
5. Carmen

dapat naa ni sila contest sa para panindotay sila ba

I love the plaza in Argao and also in Naga.. hehehe.

i hope in the near future, all the plazas in Cebu province are big, clean and most especially, it must be very inviting and beautiful to the eyes. :)

grabeh na jud ni ang akong imagination. hahah.

marxman

September 6th, 2010, 10:48 AM

bitaw, hatag-bawi man ning styla. lol.

---------------

IMO,

TOP 5 town squares/plazas kay

1. Argao
2. Sibonga
3. Naga
4. Bantayan
5. Carmen

dapat naa ni sila contest sa para panindotay sila ba

dili diay naga pinaka nindot? naka ingon ko nindot kay completo mn gd... mas nice pa jud siya compared sauna. mas dghan improvements krn...

leylander

September 6th, 2010, 11:37 AM

aw. sa akong opinyon ra man sad bai. hehe.

leylander

September 6th, 2010, 11:42 AM

diara diay pics sa akong gilista. hehehe

5. Carmen Town Plaza

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3644/3490424937_fe70a3d78a.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3597/3491231926_5646f207a7.jpg

4. Bantayan Town Plaza

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4574454508_616ef1c375.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4574453982_3d092a7e29.jpg

3. Naga Town Plaza

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1286/4712822607_4ca3461602.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4713464558_06fab643dc.jpg

2. Sibonga Town Plaza

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3395/3580226313_c9010f2307.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2422/3581035278_5bfc4fa5ec.jpg

1. Argao Town Plaza

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2003/2258214098_c6426232a2.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2117/2255056356_ae3833c9d0.jpg

jedai_blaze

September 6th, 2010, 11:44 AM

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jedai_blaze

September 6th, 2010, 11:44 AM

Nag-upgrade na ang Ceres sa ilang mga bus sa Cebu.

VTI - Viking

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/4896740729_232e136480.jpg
Courtesy of James Varello (Flickr) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52363276@N08/4896740729/in/pool-vti)

With the Yanson's Badge in front? the Y or still the Hino Badge?

Hello Cebu! Worked there for 2 years. Salamat kaayu :)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 6th, 2010, 11:55 AM

^^
bai curious lang, what do you mean badges? hehehe... naa diay nay honorary ranking?! hehehe...jowk lang. :D

tj_brewed

September 6th, 2010, 11:57 AM

'Double tourism campaigns’

Cebu Daily News INQUIRER (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20100905-290570/Double-tourism-campaigns)
First Posted 06:25:00 09/05/2010

^^ that's what you called "proactive approach" ...kudos to Cebu's business community! :master:

Murag mas proactive pa ang local governments karon in terms of promotion compared to the national government, correct me if im wrong ha. I kinda see the steps taken by Sec Durano more before compared to the current secretary, or probably it's too early pa to judge the new one.

jedai_blaze

September 6th, 2010, 12:00 PM

^^
bai curious lang, what do you mean badges? hehehe... naa diay nay honorary ranking?! hehehe...jowk lang. :D

Aw. logo nalang bai :) Anyway Congrats Cebu. Ako gisuroy suroy akong manghod diha and nalingaw siya.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 6th, 2010, 12:05 PM

Aw. logo nalang bai :) Anyway Congrats Cebu. Ako gisuroy suroy akong manghod diha and nalingaw siya.

aha! logo diay. ok lang bai. hehe... huh? ngano nag congrats man ka? nakadaog ang cebu og lotto bai?! hehe... anyways, salamat pud. yeah! everyone is very much welcome to visit and enjoy Cebu! Glad you had such a wonderful time here. :cheers:

tj_brewed

September 6th, 2010, 12:07 PM

I miss Cebu!

jedai_blaze

September 6th, 2010, 12:09 PM

aha! logo diay. ok lang bai. hehe... huh? ngano nag congrats man ka? nakadaog ang cebu og lotto bai?! hehe... anyways, salamat pud. yeah! everyone is very much welcome to visit and enjoy Cebu! Glad you had such a wonderful time here. :cheers:

Kay grabe kaayu ang progress. :) Niuli ra ko 1month pagbalik nako mas daghan na ang constructions sa IT park ug sa uban na lugar. More jobs

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 6th, 2010, 12:18 PM

^^
AHA! oo daghan na gyud buyag intawon. pasalamat kang señor santo niño. managhan pa na bai. balik-balik unya :)

marxman

September 6th, 2010, 12:30 PM

hinuon rustic ang feel sa sibonga og argao. ang naga kay more on modern... pero pareha nindot. depende nlng cguro sa preference...

Sinjin P.

September 6th, 2010, 02:42 PM

OT: I'm giving away an overnight stay good for 2 at Maribago Bluewater Beach Resort. For more details, click here (http://www.facebook.com/notes/sinjin-pineda/libotero-the-first-giveaway/492260013974)

diehardbisdak

September 6th, 2010, 02:56 PM

^^ sayang...i don't use Feysbuk! lol!

leylander

September 6th, 2010, 04:11 PM

speaking of tourist visits:

timing kaayo pag log-in nako ganina. LOL. the news about the effects of the incident sa HK tourism. dayon right beside it is an ad about HK disney land.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/4963329363_8a04a7b82f_o.jpg

habagatcentral1

September 6th, 2010, 04:45 PM

Sleepwalker

September 6th, 2010, 06:25 PM

Histories of cities, towns in province in one 'manuscript' (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=609887&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
By Ria Mae Y. Booc/JMO (The Freeman) Updated September 07, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)

CEBU, Philippines – In what Governor Gwendolyn Garcia described as a "legacy" of her administration, the history of the different towns and cities in Cebu Province will soon be made available to students in different elementary and high schools across the province.

Garcia said yesterday 32 of 47 municipalities and six cities have already submitted their respective histories, which will be compiled into a "manuscript" that would be distributed to the schools.

In a Memorandum of Agrement, the provincial government had extended the November 2009 deadline to end of this year to accommodate the data from the other local government units.

"Matag Sugbuanon mapasigarbuhon nga muasoy sa iyang pagka-Sugbuanon," Garcia said.

Garcia said this is the first time that the provincial government has introduced the initiative, which will become useful to students for their projects and researches.

The manuscript will also contain the history of the provincial government and the Capitol itself. "It is an achievement writing the history. Tagaan nato ug bili ang ka-gahapon kay ang usa ka Sugbuanon, proud to say his history," Garcia said.

The governor did not interfere with the writers of the manuscript.

"I give freehand and not intervene on how they come up with the book. I am also thankful to USC Cebuano Studies who put things together where writers meet and discussed," she said. (FREEMAN)

blueguy

September 6th, 2010, 07:06 PM

From the mall that started it all....

sUYYrCQIHLs

Jimbu

September 6th, 2010, 08:00 PM

^^ nice video

Jimbu

September 6th, 2010, 08:27 PM

Rama orders inventory of roads that need fixing (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=609886&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
By Garry B. Lao/JMO
The Freeman
September 07, 2010

CEBU, Philippines – Mayor Michael Rama has instructed the Department of Engineering and Public Works to conduct an inventory of roads here in the city that need retreading and asphalting.

Rama said the asphalting project will run until 2013 and it is DEPW that would determine which roads need to be prioritized.

"They (DEPW) should go around and check," he said.

It can be recalled that having "better roads" in the city was one of the key points in Rama's inaugural speech as new mayor of Cebu City.

City Treasurer Ofelia Oliva who joined the close-door meeting with Rama and other department heads yesterday said Rama is prioritizing the project while funds are available.

The City Council recently approved a P221 million supplemental budget, P31 million of which is intended for paving, retreading and asphalting of roads.

Councilors Jose Daluz III and Lea Ouano-Japson also attended the meeting.

In the case of the North Reclamation Area, the mayor already ordered the immediate repair of roads near commercial establishments. Most of the establishment owners have, in principle, agreed to pay their taxes in advance so that the city can use the funds to repair drainage systems, roads and sidewalks.

Late last year, City Hall and SM City signed an agreement for the mall to pay some P50 million in taxes in advance, on the condition that the city will use the tax pay-ment to finance, implement and complete various vital infrastructure projects and government programs in 2010.

The city is scheduled to start retreading and asphalting of one lane of J.C. de Veyra Avenue, which stretches from the old White Gold to SM City.

City Traffic Operations Management (CITOM) Board Chairman Sylvan Jakosalem said that once the roads are fixed, a truck ban will be implemented at the NRA to prevent future damage on the roads.

Rama also asked CITOM to come up with a traffic plan and a rerouting scheme during the repair period.

MatudNilaBaby

September 6th, 2010, 10:44 PM

marxman

September 7th, 2010, 01:04 AM

ang road sa SRP... ayoha ninyo kay dghan kaayog patch2x lng na repair... mag drive kog motor magcge untol2x... mas nindot pa road sa transcentral...

Zuburbia

September 7th, 2010, 01:09 AM

ormocanon

September 7th, 2010, 01:39 AM

habagatcentral1

September 7th, 2010, 02:08 AM

Daizuke

September 7th, 2010, 02:09 AM

^^ Wala napasagdan ... Fuente and Plaza Independencia ky under renovation.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 7th, 2010, 02:39 AM

OT: kanindot karon sa banner!!! One of the twin cities in the US :banana::banana::banana:

RE: Argao, uu naay free wifi ang plaza sa Argao bai @berns. ;)

habagatcentral1

September 7th, 2010, 02:46 AM

Question by the way,

Is MECO a subsidiary of VECO? Kanang energy distributor sa Mactan ba? Thanks.

SleMarKen

September 7th, 2010, 02:53 AM

ang road sa SRP... ayoha ninyo kay dghan kaayog patch2x lng na repair... mag drive kog motor magcge untol2x... mas nindot pa road sa transcentral...

unya na tngali nila ayuhon tanan kung mahuman na ang citta. Daghag 10wheeler cg agi agi.

Kaltehitze

September 7th, 2010, 03:19 AM

Wow, grabe, kadasig sang thread. Last time I posted here the discussion was about how cebuanos and ilonggos understand each other's languages despite the differences (pwera ang word na 'sabot' - hehe, its a different mental image to the ilonggos).

Then there was a storm between this thread and fraulein. I really enjoyed reading those posts,hehe.

Anyways, I'm just dropping by to say thanks for replying to my prior comments. Thanks you guys, you're all very hospitable to outsiders, I feel very welcome.

At any rate, CONGRATS CEBU ON YOUR 102TH THREAD! MORE POWER TO CEBU AND LONG LIVE THE VISAYAS!

(will be dropping here from time to time, hehe)

Sleepwalker

September 7th, 2010, 03:57 AM

Hala mas nindot lagi ni sila kumpara sa Fuente O ug Plaza Independencia. Mukita ko niining mga hulagway, wala koy mahuna-hunaang rason nganong napasagdan ang Fuente ug Independencia nga billionaire city man unta ang Cebu.

Ang only reason siguro bai, kay prioritization. Wala lang gud ma-prioritize ang mga public parks.

Good thing, kay giatiman na ni karon ang Plaza Independencia ug Fuene Osmena.

Eastern Dragon

September 7th, 2010, 03:59 AM

marxman,, cebu na diay ka.

great. great pictures of parks. i hope naa lang ta campus in cebu like pma, up or ateneo nga daghan kaayo greenery.

by the way, pwede ba kaha ta magfile ug petition para mahimo federal ang ato system. i cannot understand why the hell is that our lives and business in visayas and mindanao is determined by some bureacrat sitting in quezon city, BIR, DAR.

Sleepwalker

September 7th, 2010, 04:16 AM

Eastern Dragon

September 7th, 2010, 04:22 AM

^^Puwede siguro Sir...Kay vox populi, vox Dei man kuno...Unya ingon pa's Noynoy nga kita kuno iyang boss... :)

Unsa man, sugdan nato og sign, kay mag signature campaign pud ko diri, unya ako lang ipadala diha... :)

ganahan ko civil disobedience na bai. :lol::lol:. patawa tawa lang ko pero serious ning ako.

i can't understand why the fuck is that someone should determine our fate when he is 400 nautical miles away.

sige ta bayad buwis, kining mga kanahan sa manila sige lang pangotong.

i am tired of this bull shit that these people are doing.

Sleepwalker

September 7th, 2010, 04:28 AM

^^Di kaha magkagubot kung mag civil disobedience ta, Sir? Take note, ang atong nasudnong awit, kay gigamit na nato ang atong pinulungan sa pagkanta niini. Nga kung si Dr. Ambeth Ocampo pa'y pasultion, offense kuno ni siya...:lol:

Pero uyon gud ko's imong nahuna-hunaan nga federalismo. Sakit gud pamalandungon nga mora ta'g iro, gikadenahan sa liog... :)

Actually, pabor kaayo ko's style ni Mayor Osmena sa una, nga dapat Sugboanon ang mangulo sa mga pulis sa Cebu.

Eastern Dragon

September 7th, 2010, 04:34 AM

i want us to be in control of our destiny.

we are cebuanos. we are known far and wide to be hardworking and brave.

why should we let someone so far away determine our fate. sige ta bayad buwis, pila ra nibalik sa atoa? naa mga lecheng dalan diha sa NRP nga lubak lubak gihapon.

our hospitals are woefully equipped. is not but fair that we get back most of the funds that we generate.

cebu is host to central command sa AFP. one of the biggest command sa PNP.

yet, when it comes to budget, we act as if we are beggars asking the DBM for our share. getting kicked around by BIR and customs people.

where is our pride as a people, who kicked magellans ass when he dared tread on us.

Sleepwalker

September 7th, 2010, 04:57 AM

^^Pila diay gud kaha kita sa tibuok Cebu. Last time I heard, it was USD15 Billion...I am not sure of the figure and that figure was many years ago na.

So, out of that USD15 Billion, we got Php1 Billion for City and Php1 Billion for the province. Then, DPWH projects and other national funded projects, that may worth up to Php20 Billion.

All in all, thats Php22 Billion, roughly USD500 million. Let's just say, that national government spend USD1 billion for Cebu's police force and other national agencies.

More or less, out from USD15 billion, Cebu only got USD1.5 billion.

Correct me if am wrong with the figures... :)

JOSEPH00704

September 7th, 2010, 05:46 AM

inambakan falls in ginatilan
http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/18/20/32610281/1_451809196

mantayupan falls in barili
http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/18/20/32610281/1_698962331l.jpgl.jpg

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http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/18/20/32610281/1_730362206l.jpg

Jimbu

September 7th, 2010, 06:05 AM

zubuwood

September 7th, 2010, 06:10 AM

The Cebuano Exultor

September 7th, 2010, 06:15 AM

^^ Which would you prefer, a Cebuano state that only constitutes the Cebuano islands or a federation that encompasses all of Central Visayas? :? :D

no.1ta

September 7th, 2010, 06:42 AM

Zuburbia

September 7th, 2010, 06:59 AM

Hala mas nindot lagi ni sila kumpara sa Fuente O ug Plaza Independencia. Mukita ko niining mga hulagway, wala koy mahuna-hunaang rason nganong napasagdan ang Fuente ug Independencia nga billionaire city man unta ang Cebu.

alangan wala paman na natarong ang plaza independencia,,giguba baya na tungod sa road tunnel...

bakasaurus

September 7th, 2010, 07:00 AM

A federal state of the Central Visayas would do really well I think.

While Cebu would be the urban and trading center (at the onset, since urban centers springing up in Negros and Bohol and further down the line Siquijor,would be desirable), Negros would be the power center and Bohol would be the food basket. Investments for energy in Negros and scientific and knowledge and technoology-based agriculture in Bohol. At the same time, we would build infra to support tourism in all islands including Siquijor. We would build bridges to connect Cebu and Negros. And then later on Cebu and Bohol!

Hahahaha. Nindota ani nga damgo oi.
Sus kung ana pa ta sa China ani tingali og gipangtrace na ta unya gipangdakop na sa atoang mga secessionist statements. Haha.

Eastern Dragon

September 7th, 2010, 07:36 AM

nindot nga regional autonomy for the whole of visayas bai.

cebu. negros. bohol. leyte. siquijor. visayas is home to some of the richest marine wealth.

tourism center pa gyud ta. good business climate.

there is strength in numbers. if we can convince people from these provinces to band together, mas nindot.

autonomy ba. dili sa panaway man gud bai, pero we have been subsidizing a lot of the cost of the running the country for the past 20 years.

sometimes bya gud, whenever i see people wearing the philippine flag on their shirts, I sometimes wonder mas nindot pa siguro kung map sa cebu island na lang.

Henz

September 7th, 2010, 07:36 AM

Yes.. Mao unta na ang pinakanindot usa ka Federal Visayas State.... But i think, this will surely a tough fight..

leviaragon

September 7th, 2010, 07:45 AM

sikat kaayo ang philippines diri:nuts::nuts::bash::bash:

http://www.worldinterestingfacts.com/human/the-most-corrupted-political-leader-in-the-world.html

http://www.dirjournal.com/info/the-dirtiest-rivers-in-the-world/

Zuburbia

September 7th, 2010, 08:03 AM

ang eastern visayas and western visayas mangusog pod unta sila nga mahimong federal ilang tagsa tagsa ka region...para mas mahimo tang independent and mobarog nga makusganon sa atong kaugalingong mga tiil...nga dili na makatandog kanato ang mga naghari hari-an sa luzon, nga mao nalay ninghakot sa kayamanan nga angay untang ibahin bahin kanato sa insakto nga maki-angayon..::cheers:

Sleepwalker

September 7th, 2010, 08:07 AM

Sa ako-a lang, we can ask other provinces to join our cause, but we really can't force them. Some provinces already find the current situation comfortable.

And by the way, just to correct some notion, nga kaning atong idea kay namugna lang kay tungod sa atong kusgan nga ekonomiya karon. Dili tungod sa ekonomiya. Dugay nang panahon nga gustong molugnot kining Sugbo, maski katong panahon nga wa gud nahot ang Sugbo.

goleyson

September 7th, 2010, 09:30 AM

Hi all! Ask lang unta ko if naa bay mga forumers diri na nag operate og travel and tours? hehe. Naa koy kaila na mga friends na Ilongos planning to have a suroy-suroy in Cebu City (and perhaps Mactan area). Few on historical spots lang seguro then night spots. Any suggestions?

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 7th, 2010, 10:19 AM

Ang only reason siguro bai, kay prioritization. Wala lang gud ma-prioritize ang mga public parks.

Good thing, kay giatiman na ni karon ang Plaza Independencia ug Fuene Osmena.

right! daghan sad biya kaayo'g hunahunaon ang cebu city kung ikompara pud intawon sa mga lungsod. pero usahay makasabot na lang pud ta sa dakbayan kung mismo kining mga butang-a, dili dayon mahatagan og igong panahon para matagad kay basin pud siguro naa pay mas laeng mga dakong butang nga anganyang atimanon sa kaniadto pa. and sakto, at least karon nahisgutan na kining mga butang-a og nasugdan na ang pagpanindot. :cheers:

Mercato

September 7th, 2010, 12:12 PM

^^ IMO, Argao still holds my number one spot. Balita ko, naa kuno wifi sa Argao Plaza--which is cool. :D

And also, Argao Plaza is one of the best manifestation of a classic Spanish-colonial centro pueblo. Wow, grabe, kadasig sang thread. Last time I posted here the discussion was about how cebuanos and ilonggos understand each other's languages despite the differences (pwera ang word na 'sabot' - hehe, its a different mental image to the ilonggos).

Anyways, I'm just dropping by to say thanks for replying to my prior comments. Thanks you guys, you're all very hospitable to outsiders, I feel very welcome.

At any rate, CONGRATS CEBU ON YOUR 102TH THREAD! MORE POWER TO CEBU AND LONG LIVE THE VISAYAS!

(will be dropping here from time to time, hehe)Question, forgive my ignorance, I seem to have missed out on this part...

I had stumbled upon my research that Cuyonon is in fact a Visayan Language. It is the native language of Palawan. Question, would it be right for me to assert that Palawan should historically be an integral part of Western Visayas, by virtue of shared Visayan linguistics? Pls. correct me if I am wrong. Indeed, that is a huge piece of real estate... :)

marxman

September 7th, 2010, 12:22 PM

marxman

September 7th, 2010, 12:26 PM

Zuburbia

September 7th, 2010, 12:35 PM

Mercato

September 7th, 2010, 12:53 PM

to my knowledge... palawenos dont consider themselves as part of visayas... They had been misinformed & not been well taught. According to linguists, Cuyonon is under the Visayan languages and even on the Cuyonon page, it was placed under Western Visayas. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Visayan_languages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyonon_language

Cuyonin has a lot of hiligaynon/ilonggo words in it and some waray and cebuano words.. i think it is part of the visayan language... pero ambot lang pod ha..

Luoy baya ning cuyonin kay its becoming extinct na, and has a real big threat that it will become a dead dialect soon kay halos tanang taga palawan karon labi na ang mga bag-ong tubo dili na magcuyonin, magtagalog na tanan! Western Visayan - includes Kinaray-a (the major language of Antique), Aklan languages (Aklanon, Malaynon), Onhan or Loocnon (Tablas), Caluyanon, Cuyonon, Ratagnon, and others.

Another added bonus, if and when Ylonggo legislators desire to do so, would be the addition of Tubbataha, Amanpulo (http://www.amanresorts.com/amanpulo/home.aspx) and more than 2/3 of the Sulu Sea to their influence... :)

bakasaurus

September 7th, 2010, 01:29 PM

I agree Nyor. Palawan is geographically and culturally closer to the Visayans.
And the same thrust of tourism today hehe.

Parchie

September 7th, 2010, 01:45 PM

Cuyonin has a lot of hiligaynon/ilonggo words in it and some waray and cebuano words.. i think it is part of the visayan language... pero ambot lang pod ha..

Luoy baya ning cuyonin kay its becoming extinct na, and has a real big threat that it will become a dead dialect soon kay halos tanang taga palawan karon labi na ang mga bag-ong tubo dili na magcuyonin, magtagalog na tanan!

Hahahaha. Nahinumdum baya ko usa ka higayon nga nagutana ko ug usa ka Cuyonin. Nagtuo lagi ko sa estorya nga duol ra kaayo ang Ilongo nga sinutihan sa Cuyonin, di gyud na sakto tanan!
Nangutana ko ug duna ba silay tubig sa ilang balay? Nitubag ang Cuyonin nga: "Ara!" Nisunod ko ug lakaw niya aron maka-inom ko! Ga lingo2x ingon niya "Ara" - "WALA"! Haskang katawa nako! Ug Ilongo pa kadtong tubaga; "Ara" - "NAA". See the words are actually opposite in Ilongo!
I have a close friend, I will try to know the translations of basic conversational Cuyonin!

SleMarKen

September 7th, 2010, 01:48 PM

Is Cuyonin the native dialect of Cuyo island that spread to mainland Palawan?

Zuburbia

September 7th, 2010, 01:49 PM

aw mao bah? base raman gud sa akong nadunggan atong didto kog palawan, nga murag naa siyay pagka-ilonggo paminawon nya naay mga words madunggan nako nga inilonggo.... lahi ra diay og meaning! paskang! hahahaha!

Zuburbia

September 7th, 2010, 01:50 PM

Is Cuyonin the native dialect of Cuyo island that spread to mainland Palawan?

yes slerz...kay mao man kuno ni ang Cuyo Island ang naunang na-civilized sa tanang parts sa Palawan...

Zuburbia

September 7th, 2010, 01:57 PM

Jeffreyw

September 7th, 2010, 03:29 PM

Cebu City Osmena Boulevard at Night Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX0jYVxyiRU

Kaltehitze

September 7th, 2010, 03:33 PM

boy muscovado

September 7th, 2010, 03:58 PM

Question, forgive my ignorance, I seem to have missed out on this part...

I had stumbled upon my research that Cuyonon is in fact a Visayan Language. It is the native language of Palawan. Question, would it be right for me to assert that Palawan should historically be an integral part of Western Visayas, by virtue of shared Visayan linguistics? Pls. correct me if I am wrong. Indeed, that is a huge piece of real estate... :)

They had been misinformed & not been well taught. According to linguists, Cuyonon is under the Visayan languages and even on the Cuyonon page, it was placed under Western Visayas. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Visayan_languages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyonon_language

Western Visayan - includes Kinaray-a (the major language of Antique), Aklan languages (Aklanon, Malaynon), Onhan or Loocnon (Tablas), Caluyanon, Cuyonon, Ratagnon, and others.

Another added bonus, if and when Ylonggo legislators desire to do so, would be the addition of Tubbataha, Amanpulo (http://www.amanresorts.com/amanpulo/home.aspx) and more than 2/3 of the Sulu Sea to their influence... :)

Before the establishment of the current regions of the Philippines after the 1987 Constitution, the province of Palawan and Romblon were part of Western Visayas.

I could personally attest to that because my elementary social studies books really include them. there was no NCR (only MPQCC or GMA -Greater Manila Area), CAR, ARMM and CARAGA yet. there were only 12 regions.

In 1945 the famous Liberation of Panay included Romblon Province.

Philippine College of Surgeons and Philippine Medical Association before had "Panay-Palawan Chapter"

The Archdiocese of Jaro (Iloilo) was composed of the Dioceses of Antique, Aklan, Capiz, Bacolod, Kabankalan, Romblon and San Carlos.

So that's why before the dialects of Western Visayas were

Hiligaynon (famously called Ilonggo) - majority of Iloilo, Negros Occidental, Capiz and Romblon
Sulodnon - a Hiligaynon sub-dialect spoken in some parts of Capiz esp. upland
Akeanon - Aklan
Karay-a - Antique and parts of Iloilo, Capiz and Aklan
Cebuano - Northern and Southern Negros Occidental
Cuyonin/Cuyonhon - Cuyo islands and Palawan
Loocnon - Romblon, Tablas, Sibuyan
Caluyanon - conglomerate of Karay-a and dialects of Romblon

Kaltehitze

September 7th, 2010, 04:00 PM

Before the establishment of the current regions of the Philippines after the 1987 Constitution, the province of Palawan and Romblon were part of Western Visayas.

I could personally attest to that because my elementary social studies books really include them. there was no NCR (only MPQCC or GMA -Greater Manila Area), CAR, ARMM and CARAGA yet. there were only 12 regions.

In 1945 the famous Liberation of Panay included Romblon Province.

Philippine College of Surgeons and Philippine Medical Association before had "Panay-Palawan Chapter"

The Archdiocese of Jaro (Iloilo) was composed of the Dioceses of Antique, Aklan, Capiz, Bacolod, Kabankalan, Romblon and San Carlos.

So that's why before the dialects of Western Visayas were

Hiligaynon (majority of Iloilo, Negros Occidental, Capiz and Romblon)
Sulodnon (a Hiligaynon sub-dialect spoken in some parts of Capiz esp. upland)
Akeanon (Aklan)
Karay-a (Antique and parts of Iloilo, Capiz and Aklan)
Cebuano (Northern and Southern Negros Occidental)
Cuyonin/Cuyonhon - Cuyo islands and Palwan
Loocnon - Romblon, Tablas, Sibuyan
Caluyanon - conglomerate of Karay-a and dialects of Romblon

Doc, thanks for the enlightenment. You're not just a doctor, you could also be a sociology and history professor. :cheers:

donut_bai

September 7th, 2010, 04:06 PM

Western Visayan - includes Kinaray-a (the major language of Antique), Aklan languages (Aklanon, Malaynon), Onhan or Loocnon (Tablas), Caluyanon, Cuyonon, Ratagnon, and others.

Another added bonus, if and when Ylonggo legislators desire to do so, would be the addition of Tubbataha, Amanpulo (http://www.amanresorts.com/amanpulo/home.aspx) and more than 2/3 of the Sulu Sea to their influence... :)

Wow Ratagnon Language of Occidental Mindoro is nearly extinct because the natives are shifting to Tagalog. Sus kanindot jud aning atong national language oi. Is this true, only 3 speakers left? Dapat isulod ni sa laboratory para ma preserve. heheh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratagnon_language

Parchie

September 7th, 2010, 04:06 PM

Sa una sa bata pa ko akong pagtu-o ang palawan is part jud sa visayas kay kung tan-awon nimo sa mapa nakalinya man siya sa mga isla sa Visayas... karon kay nahisagol diay ni siya sa Regions of Luzon? hehe

To be exact, Palawan is under Region IVB - Mimaropa (Mindoro, Marinduque, Romblon, and Palawan).

boy muscovado

September 7th, 2010, 04:20 PM

Doc, thanks for the enlightenment. You're not just a doctor, you could also be a sociology and history professor. :cheers:

Thanks. I just read some old books sometimes. I am open naman to corrections and clarifications.

To be exact, Palawan is under Region IVB - Mimaropa (Mindoro, Marinduque, Romblon, and Palawan).

a long time ago it was only Region 4 or Southern Tagalog, including the present NCR. Palawan and Mindoro were just annexed later. That is na when Ferdinand Marcos saw the great potential of income from Romblon's marble and Palawan had increased and easy access to Southern Tagalog and Metro Manila as compared access to Iloilo. :)

Try to open geography and social studies textbooks printed in the late 70's or during the 1980's and you will find that Palawan and Mindoro were WV provinces before. I also have a genuine 1932 social studies textbook where regional division didn't yet exist :)

ALIGUAS PANGASINAN

September 7th, 2010, 04:23 PM

boy muscovado

September 7th, 2010, 04:30 PM

OK lang yan @aliguas... they don't mean to be "un-Filipino" :lol:

but, believe it or not ...in mid 1898 to the end of 1899 (Philippine Revolutionary Period) there existed

"THE CANTONAL REPUBLIC OF NEGROS"

a short-lived republic but was not recognized by the Philippine Revolutionary Government (by Aguinaldo)...but it didn't make us less of a Filipino than others

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

so don't worry, kasi whether we like it or not minahal na rin natin ang nakakaiba, nakakatuwa at nakakaaliw (at nakakbwisit?) na kapuluan sa buong mundo ang REPUBLIKA NG PILIPINAS

kenken94

September 7th, 2010, 04:31 PM

^ That issue was coined long before when Cebu stood alone in it's own feet after being disregarded by the National Government. We asked for assistance after that unforgettable storm devastated this island back in the 90's. Our leaders cried for help but no answer was given but we stood on ourselves as a people and united we survived and Ceboom was born.

That idea was coined maybe because of our experience of being neglected and discriminated as an ethnic group and would seek to be independent. They have their reasons but what we want is not to be a separate country but to be State of a Federated Philippines.

donut_bai

September 7th, 2010, 04:33 PM

Kaltehitze

September 7th, 2010, 04:37 PM

Bhan Jojo Ngoi

September 7th, 2010, 04:41 PM

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs202.snc4/38420_143542512339471_100000511692491_346140_2702998_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs426.snc4/46926_152695154757540_100000511692491_400920_8218054_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs623.snc4/58310_152695778090811_100000511692491_400930_1892177_n.jpg

DaVz

September 7th, 2010, 04:42 PM

Ika nga:

UNITED WE STAND
DIVIDED WE FALL :)

how about this..

SHARING WE STAND
GREEDY WE FALL

ALIGUAS PANGASINAN

September 7th, 2010, 04:44 PM

Hindi mo kasi na e-experience ang mga racist na treatment sa mga cebuano. Ang tindi ng mga banat kahit pa nung panahon ng mga lolo at tatay nila.

Hindi ikinakihiya ang pilipinas, gusto lang nila na matigil na ang oppression against sa kanila in particular and sa amin na taga south, in general.

Don't be naive, kaming mga taga south are the target of discrimination and oppression by those in the capital. In the media and movies, we are portrayed as baduy, mang-mang and walang alam na low class. WTF.

:ohno:

nagpaapekto naman kayo?
kami ngang taga Pangasinan, tinawag kaming Pangalatok(Pangasinan sira ang tuktok) ng mga Tagalogs, Ilocanos at iba pang lahi at nagyon patuloy na binabato ang bansag na yan sa amin, ngunit di kami nagpapekto dahil hindi naman totoo. Mataas ang tingin ko sa mga Bisaya at lalong lalo na sa mga Cebuanos at ganoon din ang mga kapwa Pinoy natin!

DaVz

September 7th, 2010, 04:47 PM

^^kung patuloy nilang ginawa(panlala-it) nyan sa inyu at ok lng sa inyu, goodluck nlng, d talaga kayu titigilan ng mga yan.

ALIGUAS PANGASINAN

September 7th, 2010, 04:48 PM

how about this..

SHARING WE STAND
GREEDY WE FALL

Bakit, kayo lang ba nakakaranas ng ganyan, ang pagkagahaman ng mga pulpulitiko? kami rin!!

pero, Mahal ko ang PILIPINAS kahit na magpatuloy ang ganitong mga isyu! :)

ALIGUAS PANGASINAN

September 7th, 2010, 04:52 PM

^^kung patuloy nilang ginawa(panlala-it) nyan sa inyu at ok lng sa inyu, goodluck nlng, d talaga kayu titigilan ng mga yan.

walang manlalait kung hindi pinapansin. sabi nga nila, wag pansinin ang mga papansin. IKA NGA SA palabas sa GMA7 na "ANG ASAR, TALO"

DaVz

September 7th, 2010, 04:52 PM

Bakit, kayo lang ba nakakaranas ng ganyan, ang pagkagahaman ng mga pulpulitiko? kami rin!!

pero, Mahal ko ang PILIPINAS kahit na magpatuloy ang ganitong mga isyu! :)

^^mahal naman namin ang Pinas ah. pro wlang mangyayari sa atin kung magpatuloy ang ganitong systema...:ohno:

Mercato

September 7th, 2010, 04:52 PM

@Aliguas Pangasinan,
For further reading and food for thought, I do invite you to read my delicious and spicy posts yonder at the English Thread. The Spirit of the Law of the Malolos Constitution which is now extinct.
I agree Nyor. Palawan is geographically and culturally closer to the Visayans.
And the same thrust of tourism today hehe. Can you imagine the possibilities? I mean Tubbataha, El Nido, Amanpulo (playground of the world’s rich and famous)… ajejeje :cheers:
Before the establishment of the current regions of the Philippines after the 1987 Constitution, the province of Palawan and Romblon were part of Western Visayas.

I could personally attest to that because my elementary social studies books really include them. there was no NCR (only MPQCC or GMA -Greater Manila Area), CAR, ARMM and CARAGA yet. there were only 12 regions.

In 1945 the famous Liberation of Panay included Romblon Province.

Philippine College of Surgeons and Philippine Medical Association before had "Panay-Palawan Chapter"

The Archdiocese of Jaro (Iloilo) was composed of the Dioceses of Antique, Aklan, Capiz, Bacolod, Kabankalan, Romblon and San Carlos.

So that's why before the dialects of Western Visayas were

Hiligaynon (famously called Ilonggo) - majority of Iloilo, Negros Occidental, Capiz and Romblon
Sulodnon - a Hiligaynon sub-dialect spoken in some parts of Capiz esp. upland
Akeanon - Aklan
Karay-a - Antique and parts of Iloilo, Capiz and Aklan
Cebuano - Northern and Southern Negros Occidental
Cuyonin/Cuyonhon - Cuyo islands and Palawan
Loocnon - Romblon, Tablas, Sibuyan
Caluyanon - conglomerate of Karay-a and dialects of Romblon Thank you, sir! Our thoughts are congruent! :pepper:
Wow Ratagnon Language of Occidental Mindoro is nearly extinct because the natives are shifting to Tagalog. Sus kanindot jud aning atong national language oi. Is this true, only 3 speakers left? Dapat isulod ni sa laboratory para ma preserve. heheh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratagnon_language OMG, there are only 5 speakers left! How many more of the smaller ones will follow? Sa binisaya pa, the new style of invasion these days diay is = inanay lang basta kanunay. :ohno: :ohno:
a long time ago it was only Region 4 or Southern Tagalog, including the present NCR. Palawan and Mindoro were just annexed later. That is na when Ferdinand Marcos saw the great potential of income from Romblon's marble and Palawan had increased and easy access to Southern Tagalog and Metro Manila as compared access to Iloilo. :)

Try to open geography and social studies textbooks printed in the late 70's or during the 1980's and you will find that Palawan and Mindoro were WV provinces before. I also have a genuine 1932 social studies textbook where regional division didn't yet exist :) Then your Western Visayan legislators should exert more effort to redeem your lost territories. It is your inalienable right to do so. If one were to look at the map, restoration of Romblon, Mindoro and Palawan would almost double the size of Western Visayas. :yes:

In fact, I also came across this tidbit about recent history.

MIMAROPA is one of the regions of the Philippines. It is one of two regions of the Philippines having no land border with another region, Eastern Visayas being the other, and is designated as Region IV-B. The name is a portmanteau combining the names of its provinces, which are: Occidental Mindoro, Oriental Mindoro, Marinduque, Romblon and Palawan.
On May 23, 2005, Palawan and Puerto Princesa City were moved to Western Visayas by Executive Order No. 429. However, on August 19, 2005, President Arroyo issued Administrative Order No. 129 to hold the earlier EO 429 in abeyance pending a review. As of 2010, Palawan and the highly urbanized city of Puerto Princesa still remain a part of this region.

Behold! Some of your legislators almost managed to restore Palawan & Puerto Princesa back to the Western Visayas fold. You must continue the struggle to do so. :gunz:

I believe all Visayan legislators, Western including Central and Eastern legislators should fully support the restoration of these provinces Romblon, Mindoro and Palawan back to where they belong; by virtue of historical right. MIMAROPA is nothing more than a fabricated region (by Marcos to perpetuate hegemony), even its name is just a so called portmanteau, a blend of 2 morphemes to form a new fabricated word. :lol:

Zuburbia

September 7th, 2010, 04:56 PM

Zuburbia

September 7th, 2010, 05:04 PM

how about this..

SHARING WE STAND
GREEDY WE FALL

hahahaha i like this! sooo true

Trigonometry101

September 7th, 2010, 05:04 PM

bakasaurus

September 7th, 2010, 05:10 PM

Bai Randz, I think he's the wrong man haha. In my experience, people in other parts of Luzon who aren't from Mega Manila itself actually have high regard for Cebuanos. They actually think Cebuanos are hardworking and business-minded.

Sa ako lang na experience. Usually, the people from the capital itself, sadly including the 2nd or 3rd generation "immigrants" are the ones who have that Manila-centric mentality. Of course, not all of them are like that but a sizable number have that kind of thinking.

How about the others here?

Jimbu

September 7th, 2010, 05:13 PM

Zuburbia

September 7th, 2010, 05:14 PM

Cebu South

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SANTANDER The southern tip of cebu

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Bato, Samboan

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http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy137/driftwud/IMG_6801.jpg

Sumilon Island from afar

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy137/driftwud/IMG_6817.jpg

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy137/driftwud/IMG_6820.jpg

SleMarKen

September 7th, 2010, 05:18 PM

walang manlalait kung hindi pinapansin. sabi nga nila, wag pansinin ang mga papansin. IKA NGA SA palabas sa GMA7 na "ANG ASAR, TALO"

lol. wag mong icompara sa palabas sa GMA ang sitwasyon namin ngayon.
Bakit, kung hindi ba namin papansinin ang panlalait, lalaki ba ang ibibigay ng gibyerno na assistance sa amin? Lumalaki na ang probinsya namin pero ganun pa din kaliit ang naibabalik na share para sa Cebu.

Bakit, kayo lang ba nakakaranas ng ganyan, ang pagkagahaman ng mga pulpulitiko? kami rin!!

pero, Mahal ko ang PILIPINAS kahit na magpatuloy ang ganitong mga isyu! :)

mahal mo pa din ang Pilipinas kahit kinakawawa na ang mga kababayan mo?

Pwes sa akin, Mahal ko ang Pilipinas pero pag kinawawa na ang kababayan ko, wala akong magagawa, lalaban kami for the sake of our people.

bakasaurus

September 7th, 2010, 05:24 PM

@Aliguas Pangasinan,
For further reading and food for thought, I do invite you to read my delicious and spicy posts yonder at the English Thread. The Spirit of the Law of the Malolos Constitution which is now extinct.
Can you imagine the possibilities? I mean Tubbataha, El Nido, Amanpulo (playground of the world’s rich and famous)… ajejeje :cheers:
Thank you, sir! Our thoughts are congruent! :pepper:
OMG, there are only 5 speakers left! How many more of the smaller ones will follow? Sa binisaya pa, the new style of invasion these days diay is = inanay lang basta kanunay. :ohno: :ohno:
Then your Western Visayan legislators should exert more effort to redeem your lost territories. It is your inalienable right to do so. If one were to look at the map, restoration of Romblon, Mindoro and Palawan would almost double the size of Western Visayas. :yes:

In fact, I also came across this tidbit about recent history.

MIMAROPA is one of the regions of the Philippines. It is one of two regions of the Philippines having no land border with another region, Eastern Visayas being the other, and is designated as Region IV-B. The name is a portmanteau combining the names of its provinces, which are: Occidental Mindoro, Oriental Mindoro, Marinduque, Romblon and Palawan.
On May 23, 2005, Palawan and Puerto Princesa City were moved to Western Visayas by Executive Order No. 429. However, on August 19, 2005, President Arroyo issued Administrative Order No. 129 to hold the earlier EO 429 in abeyance pending a review. As of 2010, Palawan and the highly urbanized city of Puerto Princesa still remain a part of this region.

Behold! Some of your legislators almost managed to restore Palawan & Puerto Princesa back to the Western Visayas fold. You must continue the struggle to do so. :gunz:

I believe all Visayan legislators, Western including Central and Eastern legislators should fully support the restoration of these provinces Romblon, Mindoro and Palawan back to where they belong; by virtue of historical right. MIMAROPA is nothing more than a fabricated region (by Marcos to perpetuate hegemony), even its name is just a so called portmanteau, a blend of 2 morphemes to form a new fabricated word. :lol:

Yeah, let's invite the people of Palawan and Mindoro and Romblon back into our island group. At least mabalanse pod kay gamay ra kaayo atoang land area compared to Luzon and Mindanao. Nag cge man diay og land grabbing sa panahon pa ni Marcos.
Kung buot bitaw hunahunaon mura bitaw usahay og we are a colony of brown masters from up there.

Interestingly, Nyor Mercato, there are so many Cebuanos and Cebuano-speaking people in Palawan who are actually of the line of mariners/seafarers and fisherfolk who fished in the area and eventually settled there. So bisan asa ka, you would always hear some Cebuano speakers, or some Cebuano speakers who would gladly join in the conversation when they hear you speak the language. People of the sea gihapon!

In El Nido for example, naay sikat nga bankero nga ang ngan kay Boy Tinapay. Siya ang amoang gicontact katong niadto mi didto for the island hopping tours, ug buotan gyud kaayo sa amoa. Wa pa siya nakabalik sa Sugbo sukad sa iyang pagkaulitawo pa (teen) and he is now around 50. He fondly remembers his parent's hometown, Medellin, and was so eager to be chatting in Cebuano. Hehehe.

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy137/driftwud/IMG_6771.jpg

Bai Randz, sa Samboan ni? Hala mura na man pod ni og naa sa Opon. Nganong ila man pod ning gipang butangan og daghan kaayong cemented mini wharfs? tsk tsk. Dapat gyud naa nay balaod aning pag coral sa beaches.

SleMarKen

September 7th, 2010, 05:27 PM

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 7th, 2010, 05:31 PM

Good Evening Cebuanos!
:)

MAY NABASA AKO SA THREAD NA TO, ABOUT DUN SA

REPUBLIC OF CEBU

^^
:ohno:

Ayaw niyo po bang mapabilang sa Pilipinas? Hindi po ba kayo Proud na maging isang PINOY? Wala naman pong dahilan upang kayo'y tumiwalag sa Bansa at gumawa ng sariling Republika. Ang Cebu ay may malaking ginampanan sa kasaysayan ng ating Bansa, Lubos kong hinahangaan ang Cebu. Kinahihiya niyo po ba ang Pilipinas? Nakakakit sa damdamin ng bawat Pinoy na nakiktang nitong kinahihiya nya ang kanyang bansa. Alam kong gusto niyo ng Gumawa ng isang bansa, ngunit hindi ito rason :ohno:

uyyy, AP napadalaw ka sa Cebu thread! welcome! :cheers:

ikumusta mo na lang ako ni *******! alam mo na siguro yun! :D

umh, actually lahat ng nababasa mo dito regarding Republic of Cebu is not really what you think it is. id like to believe that its just our own unique way of citing possibilities of the things that perhaps we long to achieve but didn't prosper :D. sometimes kasi, that stubborness among Cebuanos only manifests when they are being unfairly treated and attacked by non-Cebuanos whoever and wherever they may be. Friendly naman ang mga Cebuanos esp. to those who treat us well naman because how will we be able to treat others well if they themselves don't treat us good. Kung alam mo lang kasi ang history ng mga Cebuano, ang mga ancestors namin are fiercely independent in nature. When you think of Cebuano, just think about Lapu-Lapu and his fierce attitude and stubborn behavior is one example of a great Cebuano characteristic. hindi basta basta nagpapatalo ang Cebuano. so don't worry bai, IMO secession is not even an option at this moment :D. its just a matter of airing out our grievances to people who doesn't understand us and openly disrespects us. i know you know that just recently, there were lots of criticisms hurled against Cebuanos, and this aint new to us. its just one amongst the hundreds and thousands more of unjust discrimination against Bisayas in general and Cebuanos in particular. What we are doing is merely defending ourselves because who else would defend ourselves but us alone. we don't hire others just to deal it for us and definitely we are not asking for the entire nation's sympathies. Ironically, now it seems we are the ones to be blame. kami na nga ang nasaktan, kami pa ngayon ang sinisisi sa gulo. ang hindi lang namin lubos maisip is kung bakit ang dami daming galit sa mga cebuano. kaya minsan nagagawa na lang namin isipin bat di na lang kaya kami humiwalay sa bansang ito kasi naman wala namang gusto sa amin. so I hope you'd also understand our views kasi hindi lang naman namin yun inisip bigla na wala basehan. actually, nakikita namin at nararamdaman namin yun with other filipinos on our personal encounters and experiences here and abroad. :)

Zuburbia

September 7th, 2010, 05:32 PM

Yeah, let's invite the people of Palawan and Mindoro and Romblon back into our island group. At least mabalanse pod kay gamay ra kaayo atoang land area compared to Luzon and Mindanao. Nag cge man diay og land grabbing sa panahon pa ni Marcos.
Kung buot bitaw hunahunaon mura bitaw usahay og we are a colony of brown masters from up there.

Interestingly, Nyor Mercato, there are so many Cebuanos and Cebuano-speaking people in Palawan who are actually of the line of mariners/seafarers and fisherfolk who fished in the area and eventually settled there. So bisan asa ka, you would always hear some Cebuano speakers, or some Cebuano speakers who would gladly join in the conversation when they hear you speak the language. People of the sea gihapon!

In El Nido for example, naay sikat nga bankero nga ang ngan kay Boy Tinapay. Siya ang amoang gicontact katong niadto mi didto for the island hopping tours, ug buotan gyud kaayo sa amoa. Wa pa siya nakabalik sa Sugbo sukad sa iyang pagkaulitawo pa (teen) and he is now around 50. He fondly remembers his parent's hometown, Medellin, and was so eager to be chatting in Cebuano. Hehehe.

tinuod jud na bai baka...halos among nasakyan nga tricycle ngadtos puerto princessa kay cebuano, nya katong guide/bankero sa underground river nga na-interview sa national geographic, nga nakahimamat pod namo, kay perti kadakong bisaya! hehehe alegre kaayo kay makita jud nimo ang kalipay sa ilang mga nawong nga makahimamat sa ilang kababayang sugbuanon...hehe! kasagarang mga napadpad ngadto nga mga Bisaya kay mga mangingisda nga hinglawig og panagat sa kadagatan sa sulu og palawan...

Zuburbia

September 7th, 2010, 05:35 PM

Yeah, let's invite the people of Palawan and Mindoro and Romblon back into our island group. At least mabalanse pod kay gamay ra kaayo atoang land area compared to Luzon and Mindanao. Nag cge man diay og land grabbing sa panahon pa ni Marcos.
Kung buot bitaw hunahunaon mura bitaw usahay og we are a colony of brown masters from up there.

Interestingly, Nyor Mercato, there are so many Cebuanos and Cebuano-speaking people in Palawan who are actually of the line of mariners/seafarers and fisherfolk who fished in the area and eventually settled there. So bisan asa ka, you would always hear some Cebuano speakers, or some Cebuano speakers who would gladly join in the conversation when they hear you speak the language. People of the sea gihapon!

In El Nido for example, naay sikat nga bankero nga ang ngan kay Boy Tinapay. Siya ang amoang gicontact katong niadto mi didto for the island hopping tours, ug buotan gyud kaayo sa amoa. Wa pa siya nakabalik sa Sugbo sukad sa iyang pagkaulitawo pa (teen) and he is now around 50. He fondly remembers his parent's hometown, Medellin, and was so eager to be chatting in Cebuano. Hehehe.

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy137/driftwud/IMG_6771.jpg

Bai Randz, sa Samboan ni? Hala mura na man pod ni og naa sa Opon. Nganong ila man pod ning gipang butangan og daghan kaayong cemented mini wharfs? tsk tsk. Dapat gyud naa nay balaod aning pag coral sa beaches.
mao lagi bai baka..nindot unta kayo ni nga stretch sa white sand nga beach, apan gikural2x lang lagi intawn...pwede paman unta ni ma-usab kung pangusgan jud sa atong maanyag nga gobernadora...pangdemolish unta nang mga concrete structures nga ga-ali sa baybayon...pero nindot kaayong ga blue2x nga tubig lami kayo i-dive..hehe

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 7th, 2010, 05:51 PM

:ohno:

nagpaapekto naman kayo?
kami ngang taga Pangasinan, tinawag kaming Pangalatok(Pangasinan sira ang tuktok) ng mga Tagalogs, Ilocanos at iba pang lahi at nagyon patuloy na binabato ang bansag na yan sa amin, ngunit di kami nagpapekto dahil hindi naman totoo. Mataas ang tingin ko sa mga Bisaya at lalong lalo na sa mga Cebuanos at ganoon din ang mga kapwa Pinoy natin!

bai advise ko lang sa'yo, punta ka sa Cebu Heritage thread at duon i-scan mo at basahin mo lahat lahat tungkol sa cebu esp. those parts not clearly emphasized in our philippine history books pero yan kung okay lang sayo kasi mahirap magexplain dito kasi mauubusan tayo ng oras kasi matutulog pa ako. hehehe... :)

bakasaurus

September 7th, 2010, 05:53 PM

mao lagi bai baka..nindot unta kayo ni nga stretch sa white sand nga beach, apan gikural2x lang lagi intawn...pwede paman unta ni ma-usab kung pangusgan jud sa atong maanyag nga gobernadora...pangdemolish unta nang mga concrete structures nga ga-ali sa baybayon...pero nindot kaayong ga blue2x nga tubig lami kayo i-dive..hehe

Duol ra baya kaayo kas capitolyo Ran, adtoa kuno og pakighimamat pod panagsa kang Inday Guwen unya isugilon niya ang imong mga suhestiyon.

@ALIGUAS PANGASINAN:

Cebuanos are just not the kind of people who'll put up with being insulted and looked down upon. Siguro you can say that we are a proud people. Proud people doesn't mean being boastful, but to fight back when provoked and rendered with injustice.

It is not for us to sit timidly and bite our lips when our people are being treated improperly. And we urge you people of Pangasinan to do the same. Tolerating this "civil" oppression from the people in the capital is doing everyone disservice--to us belittled people and to the offenders by spoiling them. We should put our foot down and say hey that's FOUL! The more we brush them off as nothing to be indignant about, the more that they will think it is OKAY for them to do that. And it becomes the NORM. That's why it's high time we knock some sense into their superior and bloated heads.

Cebuanos do not condone such lowly treatment and neither should you, or any other ethnic group in our country!

zubuwood

September 7th, 2010, 06:06 PM

^^ Which would you prefer, a Cebuano state that only constitutes the Cebuano islands or a federation that encompasses all of Central Visayas? :? :D

^^
In my own Opinion I would go for the "V" republic or The VISAYAS Republic as what the Governors of Visayas propose before when Former President GMA was threatend to be ousted in power in 2004 on the debate whether to impeach her or not.

pmarl

September 7th, 2010, 06:06 PM

I Hope in my lifetime na mahitabo matinood dyud ning REPUBLIC OF CEBU :)

OT : kanus a pa kaha na hipuson anang mga spaghetti cable wires hahay it is such an eyesore to look at :(

pmarl

September 7th, 2010, 06:07 PM

^^
In my own Opinion I would go for the "V" republic or The VISAYAS Republic as what the Governors of Visayas propose before when Former President GMA was threatend to be ousted in power in 2004 on the debate whether to impeach her or not.

im ok with this propose plan too :)

Mercato

September 7th, 2010, 06:20 PM

Sumilon Island from afar

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy137/driftwud/IMG_6817.jpg

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy137/driftwud/IMG_6820.jpg Woo hoo :pepper: :pepper: SUMILON!!! Nagflashback to the 80s childhood days dah! When we were the young ones. Karon young once na lang. :ohno: :lol::lol: I remember we slept at a friend's house in Oslob and then we rode the banca and we enjoyed the beach in Sumilon itself.

Yeah, let's invite the people of Palawan and Mindoro and Romblon back into our island group. At least mabalanse pod kay gamay ra kaayo atoang land area compared to Luzon and Mindanao. Nag cge man diay og land grabbing sa panahon pa ni Marcos.
Kung buot bitaw hunahunaon mura bitaw usahay og we are a colony of brown masters from up there.

Interestingly, Nyor Mercato, there are so many Cebuanos and Cebuano-speaking people in Palawan who are actually of the line of mariners/seafarers and fisherfolk who fished in the area and eventually settled there. So bisan asa ka, you would always hear some Cebuano speakers, or some Cebuano speakers who would gladly join in the conversation when they hear you speak the language. People of the sea gihapon!

In El Nido for example, naay sikat nga bankero nga ang ngan kay Boy Tinapay. Siya ang amoang gicontact katong niadto mi didto for the island hopping tours, ug buotan gyud kaayo sa amoa. Wa pa siya nakabalik sa Sugbo sukad sa iyang pagkaulitawo pa (teen) and he is now around 50. He fondly remembers his parent's hometown, Medellin, and was so eager to be chatting in Cebuano. Hehehe.

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy137/driftwud/IMG_6771.jpg

Bai Randz, sa Samboan ni? Hala mura na man pod ni og naa sa Opon. Nganong ila man pod ning gipang butangan og daghan kaayong cemented mini wharfs? tsk tsk. Dapat gyud naa nay balaod aning pag coral sa beaches. No need to invite them because we do not know what their frame of mind is - if they feel like Luzonians or Visayans. Let the Western Visayan legislators legislate all those territories back into their rightful place - which is Western Visayas. The boom for Region 6 will be astounding. Oh, I can just picture it in my mind. :yes:

Bitaw noh? I had noticed we Cebuanos are kinda different from the rest. Why are most of us so hardheaded ba kaha ni o fiercely independent giud? When I was born for example in Southern Islands Hospital in Cebu City, did the nurses back then implant a rebel gene in my head? Why are we acting the same, bai? Na karon bisan asa ta ilabay around the world, naa man gihapon na ang rebel gene?
Yeah, Supertyphoon Ruping in 1990. Good thing Lito Osmena was the governor when no help from the national government assisted Cebu after a great devastation. The most destructive typhoon in the Philippines before Ondoy and Pepeng. I also remember that Ruping back in the early 90s... :ohno: a ship struck the Mactan bridge and the bridge was closed except for pedestrians. But there was also a time shortly after the typhoon that we could only use bancas & boats in transporting people and goods to Mactan island from nearby Mandaue.

jundem_dq63

September 7th, 2010, 06:39 PM

Cebu, Boracay cited in China travel awards

Despite the tension between the Philippines and China caused by the August 23 hostage incident in Manila that left eight Hong Kong tourists dead, two travel destinations in the Philippines have been cited in a China-based online travel competition.

The two destinations — Cebu and Boracay, both in the Visayas — won the "Best Travel & Leisure Destination (short haul) Award" in the recently concluded TravelWeekly China Travel and Meetings Industry Awards online voting competition, according to the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA).

Citing a report from Philippine Ambassador to China Francisco Benedicto, the DFA said Tourism Undersecretary Vicente Romano III accepted the award at a ceremony held in Beijing on August 30.

It said the competition was organized by TravelWeekly China, a leading travel industry trade publication in China.

"The awards aim to recognize the best enterprises in China's travel, meeting and incentive industry," the DFA said.

Since its debut in 2002, the event has won the trust of the tourism industry for its fairness, transparency and creativity.

Benedicto said the nominees for the awards were chosen by a panel of judges composed of travel and tourism industry executives and professionals. The nominees were then posted online from June 2010 and 800,000 netizens from the Chinese tourism and meetings industry voted on their choices.

This year's winners are the following:

* Best Leisure Destination - Li jiang, China

* Best Travel & Leisure Destination (short haul) - Cebu and Boracay, Philippines

* Best Travel & Leisure Destination (long haul) - United Kingdom

* Best Ecological Destination - Norway

* Best Resort Destination - Gold Coast, Australia

In April, the Philippines also won a gold award in service quality at the China Outbound Travel and Tourism Market Fair in Beijing for its excellent performance in meeting the needs of Chinese tourists visiting the Philippines.

Source (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/200476/cebu-boracay-cited-in-china-travel-awards)

flesh_is_weak

September 7th, 2010, 06:53 PM

zubuwood

September 7th, 2010, 06:56 PM

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohyiiHFXoDo&feature=related
Nibuhagay jud ko og katawa pag kita ani...

SleMarKen

September 7th, 2010, 07:00 PM

AmbutLang

September 7th, 2010, 09:56 PM

Federated State of Cebu gyud ko.

gtjr

September 7th, 2010, 11:32 PM

sumilon in 1997
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/3806499809_351b324fde_z.jpg

the bike
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3523/3807307308_ba85cba94e_z.jpg

the route
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2528/3899268219_e7e26765fd_z.jpg?zz=1

amlan negros oriental in 1997
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2513/3919004226_0b2c5c0dd5_z.jpg

habagatcentral1

September 8th, 2010, 12:09 AM

Question @Mercato, should everything all else fail, would you be resorting like the tactics of ETA/Basque separatists in Spain?

mwg12a

September 8th, 2010, 12:32 AM

The Future of CEBU lies in the fate of the Cebuano Legislators and not from a Tagalog or other group of Filipinos.. We are a community of 3.7 Million While The Kingdom of Brunei's population is less than 1 Million. So why not be an independent state now that CEBU is starting to be recognize Globally. The Dynamism and the large Manpower availability of Our CEBU Nation will shine one day in the World map. If we need to touch the divine and so be it and let it all be heard. :cheers:

Brunei has ton of oil in their land, that is the biggest difference. Cebu won't make it to become the asian giant because of limited landmass and resources, staple food will be imported as well as other products. There is not enough technological advancement in Cebu areas yet that is develop and can be truely claim as a tool for a much bigger airport.

Indenpendent State isn't bad because it has many advantages to it. So, I am all for it. However, without totally separating from Manila government totally as a separate nation, it will be hard not to associate Cebu from the rest of the country. What are we going to do with Visayan residing in Manila are if Cebu and Manila would be a separate country. How will Cebu or even Manila can protect itself to possible foreign threats such as from China? I'm pretty much sure Spratly Islands would not be given up by Manila Government and that's a potential source of crude oil, this is why China wants those chains of islands.

I am definitely for the preservation of languages and culture in the Philippines. I just don't understand why there are so much animosity and hostility towards the tagalogs by some of our SSC cebu forummers when in this thread alone, It's like some are still living in the past. I have never heard any tagalogs or other filipinos expressing resentments towards Cebuanos especially in SSC but it seems like it always come first from Cebuanos with their smirk remarks? I know not all Bisaya thinks the same way. I guess it would take someone with the same intelligence, respect for others and a big heart like Mr Zidlakan to understand and realize that this is also a form of racism and prejudices. When we are in another country, we feel bad if we are being treated indifferently how much more with our own kind? Why can't we just work together without bashing or insulting one another? Tagalogs have feelings too just like Cebuanos. It's unfair for those tagalogs who are innocent just as it is unfair for innocent Cebuanos.

habagatcentral1

September 8th, 2010, 12:37 AM

Indenpendent State isn't bad because it has many advantages to it. So, I am all for it. However, without totally separating from Manila government totally as a separate nation, it will be hard not to associate Cebu from the rest of the country. What are we going to do with Visayan residing in Manila are if Cebu and Manila would be a separate country. How will Cebu or even Manila can protect itself to possible foreign threats such as from China? I'm pretty much sure Spratly Islands would not be given up by Manila Government and that's a potential source of crude oil, this is why China wants those chains of islands.
Simple, China may give grants like the ones in ZTE and Northrail--well, that's according to now press secretary Ricky Carandang. :D

mwg12a

September 8th, 2010, 01:02 AM

^^ Sorry, i added more in my post. I hope I will not be crucified by it. I didn't think it was an unfair statement.

kawawa naman ang filipinas kung yan ang katumbas lang ng Spratley sa China. Crude oil ang makakapagbangon sa kahirapan ng filipinas gaya ng Brunei. May pang pasueldo na malaki na sa mga buayang politico sa buong filipinas.

mwg12a

September 8th, 2010, 01:09 AM

uyyy, AP napadalaw ka sa Cebu thread! welcome! :cheers:

ikumusta mo na lang ako ni *******! alam mo na siguro yun! :D

umh, actually lahat ng nababasa mo dito regarding Republic of Cebu is not really what you think it is. id like to believe that its just our own unique way of citing possibilities of the things that perhaps we long to achieve but didn't prosper :D. sometimes kasi, that stubborness among Cebuanos only manifests when they are being unfairly treated and attacked by non-Cebuanos whoever and wherever they may be. Friendly naman ang mga Cebuanos esp. to those who treat us well naman because how will we be able to treat others well if they themselves don't treat us good. Kung alam mo lang kasi ang history ng mga Cebuano, ang mga ancestors namin are fiercely independent in nature. When you think of Cebuano, just think about Lapu-Lapu and his fierce attitude and stubborn behavior is one example of a great Cebuano characteristic. hindi basta basta nagpapatalo ang Cebuano. so don't worry bai, IMO secession is not even an option at this moment :D. its just a matter of airing out our grievances to people who doesn't understand us and openly disrespects us. i know you know that just recently, there were lots of criticisms hurled against Cebuanos, and this aint new to us. its just one amongst the hundreds and thousands more of unjust discrimination against Bisayas in general and Cebuanos in particular. What we are doing is merely defending ourselves because who else would defend ourselves but us alone. we don't hire others just to deal it for us and definitely we are not asking for the entire nation's sympathies. Ironically, now it seems we are the ones to be blame. kami na nga ang nasaktan, kami pa ngayon ang sinisisi sa gulo. ang hindi lang namin lubos maisip is kung bakit ang dami daming galit sa mga cebuano. kaya minsan nagagawa na lang namin isipin bat di na lang kaya kami humiwalay sa bansang ito kasi naman wala namang gusto sa amin. so I hope you'd also understand our views kasi hindi lang naman namin yun inisip bigla na wala basehan. actually, nakikita namin at nararamdaman namin yun with other filipinos on our personal encounters and experiences here and abroad. :)

Okay I read this post a bit later, I understand now. I still hope that people should exercise abit tolerance. Sometimes when I read some post it comes so strong and that it sounded like a racist comment.

Mercato

September 8th, 2010, 02:25 AM

Question @Mercato, should everything all else fail, would you be resorting like the tactics of ETA/Basque separatists in Spain?The comparison is far off. The Basques are only like 2.5 to 3 million against the 46 million in Spain? :lol: Consider the strength of the Spanish Armed Forces against the, the, the strength(???) of the AFP. :rofl:

But yet the Basques are giving the Guardia Civil a hard time! :lol:

How much more for 20 million of us against a decrepit and inutile AFP, hmmm? :|
Open your eyes and see the reality. The reality that the Imperial Capital is weak. Do you remember the very first time someone defied Manila and ordered schools to sing Yutang Tabunon? They did nothing, because fact is, they cannot send in an invastion force to stop the governor. :lol::lol: :)

The governor dared them, and they blinked. :rofl: You might have missed this one. :yes: We don't need to do anything, all we have to do is declare independence tomorrow or next week depending on our government officials' Vacation Leaves :hilarious and Manila will be too stunned and helpless to do anything. Why?

I have a pretty good picture of the sorry state of the AFP. :lol: It's not like they can do a McArthur landing or something. NOT. They cannot even quell the 3 million Muslims in the South, how much more for 20million. Their resources will be streeeeetched to breaking point.

Failure is very, very, very remote. :lol:

Aaaahhh, but you have not answered my question yet re MIMAROPA? ;)
You do not find it disconcerting that the Imperial Capital had halved the size of your Region 6 all for their benefit and territorial gain, hmmmmm? See my highlights above in bold and blue... :)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 8th, 2010, 02:32 AM

I am definitely for the preservation of languages and culture in the Philippines. I just don't understand why there are so much animosity and hostility towards the tagalogs by some of our SSC cebu forummers when in this thread alone, It's like some are still living in the past. I have never heard any tagalogs or other filipinos expressing resentments towards Cebuanos especially in SSC but it seems like it always come first from Cebuanos with their smirk remarks? I know not all Bisaya thinks the same way. I guess it would take someone with the same intelligence, respect for others and a big heart like Mr Zidlakan to understand and realize that this is also a form of racism and prejudices. When we are in another country, we feel bad if we are being treated indifferently how much more with our own kind? Why can't we just work together without bashing or insulting one another? Tagalogs have feelings too just like Cebuanos. It's unfair for those tagalogs who are innocent just as it is unfair for innocent Cebuanos.

actually sir @mwg, IMO most of the time, we are not the ones initiating racist remarks here. when we feel that our place and our people are being mistreated whether here in SSC or outside (media, personal experiences, articles, etc), we feel obligated to defend our land and our people. parang build up na kasi yan sa lahat lahat ng mga frustrations and grievances within us na kung merong lumalabas na mga issues against Cebu and Cebuanos from time to time, sumasabog bigla yung naiipong sama ng loob. an outburst of enormous emotions triggered by those random people who keeps on stereotyping and bashing cebuanos.

Also, even if some of you might think some of us here still lives in the past, well history will always affect us in one way or the other even at the present. To think, its the people up north who still lives in the past because this stereotype behavior was a product of the past. if we keep on denying certain points in the past and just leave it all up there and remain unfixed, then nothing would ever change. we are just being reminded that all these false remarks and discriminations against cebuanos didn't just sprung out in modern era because if you were to understand where are all these things come from, it all started from the past through generations to generations of racial slur fabricated by ignorant people up north. that is what we are trying to break. The mentality that cebuanos are not what they've grown to think about.

We are most afraid of the future if this would still continue because if this generation would fail to cause change amongst our people, then i dunno what will happen to us as a country. Our past generations have failed to do so, I know they don't like it as much as we do but now that Cebu as grown tremendously as ever, i don't think to ignore and to be silent is the solution for a change we long to achieve. That's the reason why we made Cebu what it is today so that in the near future, NO ONE could EVER make another similar REMARK against us. We HOPE NEVER to hear another similar STORIES of discrimination and ignorance against us and we fervently HOPE to deliver change for the NEXT generation of CEBUANOS and of course, FILIPINOS!

just my dos centimos :2cents:

habagatcentral1

September 8th, 2010, 02:35 AM

The comparison is far off. The Basques are only like 2.5 to 3 million against the 46 million in Spain? :lol: Consider the strength of the Spanish Armed Forces against the, the, the strength(???) of the AFP. :rofl:

But yet the Basques are giving the Guardia Civil a hard time! :lol:

How much more for 20 million of us against a decrepit and inutile AFP, hmmm? :|

Yeah, I mean bombings? :colgate:

Aaaahhh, but you have not answered my question yet re MIMAROPA? ;)
You do not find it disconcerting that the Imperial Capital had halved the size of your Region 6 all for their benefit and territorial gain, hmmmmm? See my highlights above in bold and blue... :)

Palawan local government itself declared that they would prefer either be at MIMAROPA or be alone without a region (an anomaly). MIMAROPA's offices are found at Calapan City in Oriental Mindoro and Batangas City. Its more of a logistical reason rather than cultural. Going from Puerto Princesa to Iloilo VIA Cebu is a hassle and expensive and the only "direct" line of service from Iloilo to Puerto Princesa via Cuyo Island is via a 2 night ferry ride crossing Sulu Sea with a "miraculous ship." :D

So simply stating, the local government of Palawan has some major major inconvenience with transacting their government papers through Iloilo.

Think about this, a trip from Brooke's Point to Puerto Princesa or from El Nido to Puerto Princesa would take almost half a day. What more if they would transact with Iloilo which would take 2 nights by ship and another half-a-day transaction through the plane by Cebu?

Or as what they said earlier, "we're better off alone."

Same reason why the regional capital was returned to Iloilo City during the late 1980s for Western Visayas, its because of logistics. Why do most regional capitals have their areas placed on a strategic location, because despite of the technology, the government still rely on physical access.

So that's a non-issue for most Western Visayan people. AFA opinion of most Ilonggos and Palaweños are concerned.

As for Mindoro, most of northern and central Mindoro people speak Tagalog. Romblon is mixed, it may be merged with Region 6 if they would petition to. Marinduque is obviously Tagalog which is closer to Mimaropa.

So, its not cultural. Its logistical. But if you don't wanna believe what I've said, its up to you. So far, that's factual since I've read a lot of articles relating to that issue not so long ago--and basing on Palaweño friends and some officials as well. ;)

Nah, sorry. I don't wanna join your argument here regarding separatism. I may be Visayan, but I'm proud to say, I am Filipino. :)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 8th, 2010, 02:39 AM

Mercato

September 8th, 2010, 03:08 AM

@habagat

All we have to do is sip our tequilas and pinacoladas whilst declaring independence. Question, what is Philippine Miyerda and the Imperial Capital doing to change mindsets? Answer: Nothing. All they want is to carry on as they are.
You might have missed this one. :yes: We don't need to do anything, all we have to do is declare independence tomorrow or next week depending on our government officials' Vacation Leaves :hilarious and Manila will be too stunned and helpless to do anything.
I am quite surprised you missed this one. Apparently, some still do.
In fact, I also came across this tidbit about recent history.

MIMAROPA is one of the regions of the Philippines. It is one of two regions of the Philippines having no land border with another region, Eastern Visayas being the other, and is designated as Region IV-B. The name is a portmanteau combining the names of its provinces, which are: Occidental Mindoro, Oriental Mindoro, Marinduque, Romblon and Palawan.
On May 23, 2005, Palawan and Puerto Princesa City were moved to Western Visayas by Executive Order No. 429. However, on August 19, 2005, President Arroyo issued Administrative Order No. 129 to hold the earlier EO 429 in abeyance pending a review. As of 2010, Palawan and the highly urbanized city of Puerto Princesa still remain a part of this region.

Behold! Some of your legislators almost managed to restore Palawan & Puerto Princesa back to the Western Visayas fold. You must continue the struggle to do so. :gunz:

So if you don’t want to discuss solidarity with us because you are that "Filipino", then why linger on with us, hmmm?

Ooh btw, I thought I remember someone wanted to discuss mindsets in thread 1? :lol::lol:

Here's the permanent mindset for you set in stone and cement up there in the North. The consistency of Philippine Miyerda to churn out trashy shows depicting the Bisaya always as the maid, aaaaalwaaaays. :yes: The consistency of the Wicked Witch of the West Gloria since the time of the Sakal, Sakali Kasal 2007 done by that obnoxious faggot director Mario OHara with an equally evil chipmunk princesita cum piglet Judy Ann. With their fake pedigrees depicting the Northerner as the elite and the Bisaya as their maids. Always the maid Indays. Up to now, the evil G had made a slip of her warped mind. And so the evil fugly faggots Abunda et al are coming to her rescue.

We could probably flood this thread and other heritage threads of youtube clips from trashy Philippine Miyerda alwaaaaaaaaaays depicting the Bisaya as maid material. That is cultural chauvinism and moulding mindsets for you. But does Philippine Miyerda like ABS care? The hell, they don't! So who here is gonna convince me mindsets will change?????

Why even here in SSC the mindset is there amongst other provincials from other regions. Example, you have that demented yvette with her wicked siggy and usertitle. Alwaaaays depicting the Inday as their maids of their tahanans. Even the mother of Manny Pacquiao is not spared the mockery. But in yvette's demented mind, he/she/ (IT I think is more apropros) is quite normal, decent and ordinary and the siggy is nothing to be angry about. That was how it was brought up. That is how many of the young and demented are brought up. Moulded by pop culture and Philippine Miyerda. Mindset of the Northerner = Maid = Bisaya = bad language = subordinate. Es cierto y lo sabes, It is true and you know it.

:lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 8th, 2010, 03:20 AM

^^
:rofl::D

ahaka gyud nimo nyor uyy! mamahaw sa ta diha na! :lol::lol::lol:

Zuburbia

September 8th, 2010, 03:28 AM

we fell a long time ago...thanks to mismanagement by our manila-centric government up north

for sure, i am ashamed to be a Filipino i am a realist, i don't live in some kind of fantasy world where love for country reigns supreme...i am aware of the fact that the Philippines is way down there...the state of the economy? pitiful...the cast of characters running the government? comedic...whenever someone asks where i'm from, i say "i'm from Cebu Island in the Visayas" and they'll say "isn't that in The Philippines?" i reply "yes, but it's nothing like the rest of the country, actually, we are a colony of The Philippines"

I Love It! weeeee!!!!

habagatcentral1

September 8th, 2010, 03:29 AM

leylander

September 8th, 2010, 03:32 AM

di lagi gyud na sila padaug. murag si fraulein ba. mukubi gyud. lol

Zuburbia

September 8th, 2010, 03:42 AM

the route
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ayay Kanindot og mabutangan na jud nag bridge from santander to negros! atong laag laag and exploration dili nalang kutob sa Cebu, we can have long drive exploring the beauty of negros oriental! weeeee supportahan unta ning noynoy tisoy ang plano pagconnect sa mga Isla sa Visayas! pagka-anindot huna hunaon! :banana::banana:

Eastern Dragon

September 8th, 2010, 04:35 AM

how i love cebu. bitaw, autonomy gyud dapat ang mga provinces so that we each province will be forced to generate funds for their own use.

it is a challenge for the less developed provinces to find ways, look at camsur. that is a perfect example of good political initiatives coupled with business acumen.

dili magsalig na lang sa dole-out sa government in the form of IRA. just look at maguindanao and how the ampatuans amassed billions yet income from the province sure does not reach that level.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 8th, 2010, 05:00 AM

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Hala! I believe this picture was taken after WW2 right? mao diay nang hitsura sa magallanes paghuman sa gubat. grabe ang destruction. :ohno:

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WOW! kanindot gud diay sa Plaza Independencia sauna. ngano kahang giguba nila ang center island sa M.J. Cuenco nga kanindot diay adto tanawon sauna. sus unsa na lang gyud kaha kanindot kung na-imbento na saunang panahon ang colored picture.

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Parchie

September 8th, 2010, 07:26 AM

Aaaahhh, but you have not answered my question yet re MIMAROPA? ;)
You do not find it disconcerting that the Imperial Capital had halved the size of your Region 6 all for their benefit and territorial gain, . . .
The maneuverings made to attach Palawan to Region IVB from Western Visayas is basically a move to share some of Palawans riches to its regional neighbors, IMO. It is based on the "big brother" idea that most RDC's are designed to operate. Who will benefit? - Mindoro, Romblon, Marinduque, or even the Southern Tagalog Region! The fact that it took the Palawan Provincial Government a very, very long time to get their share of the fruits of the Malampaya Gas Project is testament of the imperial Manila's unwillingness to return the good graces due to the Palawan government.

My first travel in the province of Palawan was a bone-breaking 6 and a half hours on bad roads. I joked a lot on my Palawan friends of their province's "tulays" (bridges) being just "1-lays"(not 2-lays) because most of the reported completed bridges were actually half of the standard two-lane Philippine bridges! And the road is very chocolate when wet and very face powder during summer (typical macadam roads).
The point I would like to tell is that Palawan is very rich in minerals and oil, not to mention the untouched beauty nature lovers will surely fall for. But for some time in the past, the province was left-out in infra projects. All those conditions were changed when the provincial government started infrastructure projects:

The northern road concreting from Puerto Princesa up to Sabang, El Nido (probably fruits of work of then DOT Sec. Ace Durano who kept pushing for the project to lure more tourists to the Subterranean River);
The south road concreting up to Rio Tuba, Bataraza, Palawan, a PEZA location and
The upgrading of the Puerto Princesa Airport (there were other smaller projects though).

These projects were funded under the P2.6 billion gas revenue share from the US$4.5 billion Malampaya Natural Gas Project offshore Palawan. Although the southern portion of the project is still on-going, you can travel 250 km in four and 1/2 hours!

read (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/86901/palawan-to-get-p26-billion-in-royalties-from-malampaya-yield)

Truly, the Palawenos repaid the previous administration by voting into office PGMA's ally, former congressman Baham Mitra as governor of Palawan in the last elections.

mwg12a

September 8th, 2010, 07:40 AM

just my dos centimos :2cents:

I totally understand. I'm sure little petty things can snowball in the end so yes, retaliation is eminent if that happens. My curious question is that, why is it mostly Cebuanos are the ones more affected among other Visayan provinces. From my understandingt, most filipinos in Manila or tagalog region regarded Cebu as a more sophiticated type of Bisaya and the ones in smaller towns are the ones really regarded as "promdi" together with other Philippine provinces including southern tagalog provinces. I knew the Batanguenos/Laguna are subject to redicule in Manila also because the way they act and their heavy batangueno/laguna accent. I guess when a few ignorant Manileños called out someone from the Visayan region that are not from Cebu, Cebuanos since they are also visaya gets affected by the insensitve remarks or teasing to their fellow Visayan? Is that a safe assumption of this whole issue?

mwg12a

September 8th, 2010, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by flesh_is_weak
we fell a long time ago...thanks to mismanagement by our manila-centric government up north

for sure, i am ashamed to be a Filipino i am a realist, i don't live in some kind of fantasy world where love for country reigns supreme...i am aware of the fact that the Philippines is way down there...the state of the economy? pitiful...the cast of characters running the government? comedic...whenever someone asks where i'm from, i say "i'm from Cebu Island in the Visayas" and they'll say "isn't that in The Philippines?" i reply "yes, but it's nothing like the rest of the country, actually, we are a colony of The Philippines"

I Love It! weeeee!!!!

I don't know, it sounds more like a lame excuse to deny ones heritage because of fear of it's own skin tone and physical appearance. There are so many filipinos caught this plague as far as I can remember. It's a comon knowledge already. I see alot of filipinos who are proud and humble because of their own individual achievements and has proven themselves here in the west or North America and has earned respect. We are ashamed because we are from a poor country? I think that is too shallow. What about humility and self respect? Although there are other races regarded us as inferior, they are very few, there are alot more of them out there who recognized our potential and treat us as equal to them. Otherwise, why do we have non filipino friends if other races thinks ill about us? It means they see the two sides of the coin and recognized our capabilities so they give us equal respect we deserve. Is it not?

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 8th, 2010, 08:29 AM

I totally understand. I'm sure little petty things can snowball in the end so yes, retaliation is eminent if that happens. My curious question is that, why is it mostly Cebuanos are the ones more affected among other Visayan provinces. From my understandingt, most filipinos in Manila or tagalog region regarded Cebu as a more sophiticated type of Bisaya and the ones in smaller towns are the ones really regarded as "promdi" together with other Philippine provinces including southern tagalog provinces. I knew the Batanguenos/Laguna are subject to redicule in Manila also because the way they act and their heavy batangueno/laguna accent. I guess when a few ignorant Manileños called out someone from the Visayan region that are not from Cebu, Cebuanos since they are also visaya gets affected by the insensitve remarks or teasing to their fellow Visayan? Is that a safe assumption of this whole issue?

umh, sir @mwg, i didn't quite get what you meant about the one I highlighted.

with regards to Cebuanos being the ones who gets easily affected, its because its a general thought that when you speak of bisaya, people associate it with Cebu in one way or the other. I mean, when I was in Manila a few years ago, I was asked by a sari-sari store vendor because she overheard me talked in Cebuano with my cousin while waiting for a jeepney to SM Fairview. she asked me if I am from Cebu because probably what might be running through her mind was my bisaya. but say for example I wasn't a bisaya from Cebu and say, I'm from Dipolog and I speak Cebuano also then I'm pretty sure that sari-sari vendor would still think I am from Cebu because I speak Cebuano bisaya. but if I were from Bacolod, I don't think they'd call my language bisaya bec. obviously it would be ilonggo. the ilonggos and warays may not care about it because all three of the visayan languages have different intonations. the ilonggos are well known for their soft spoken tongue, the cebuanos pretty much on the middle while the warays are famous for their hard tone. but amongst the 3 of these, many people would still refer to bisaya as Cebuano.

If indeed Manilans do think Cebuanos are sophisticated bisaya and the rest are promdis, remember that Cebuano is spoken by an estimated 22 million people across the visayas and mindanao. If a manila peep bashes a bisaya, even though he/she might not actually refer to the Cebuano populace in Cebu, the reaction would somehow cause Cebuanos to be alarmed because of that bisaya-tagged that is linked to Cebu. para kasing naging tagasalo tuloy ang mga Cebuanos sa lahat ng mga stereotypes against bisaya even though hindi naman talaga sila ang tinutukoy. ;)

no.1ta

September 8th, 2010, 09:03 AM

I don't know, it sounds more like a lame excuse to deny ones heritage because of fear of it's own skin tone and physical appearance. There are so many filipinos caught this plague as far as I can remember. It's a comon knowledge already. I see alot of filipinos who are proud and humble because of their own individual achievements and has proven themselves here in the west or North America and has earned respect. We are ashamed because we are from a poor country? I think that is too shallow. What about humility and self respect? Although there are other races regarded us as inferior, they are very few, there are alot more of them out there who recognized our potential and treat us as equal to them. Otherwise, why do we have non filipino friends if other races thinks ill about us? It means they see the two sides of the coin and recognized our capabilities so they give us equal respect we deserve. Is it not?

you like to reason out but you tagalog people don't wanna admit on your own stupidity!!!:bash:

ormocanon

September 8th, 2010, 09:12 AM

^^ As you said, he's REASONING OUT. So why the hostility? :ohno:

wildfrangipani

September 8th, 2010, 09:31 AM

One of you guys should run for Congress and file the bill for Federalism or a HK like set up, one country, two system. :D

ormocanon

September 8th, 2010, 09:46 AM

^^ Better yet, bring the cause to your legislators and do some real lobbying instead of ranting. Walk the talk matud pa. :)

SleMarKen

September 8th, 2010, 09:47 AM

Im proud to be a Filipino, Im proud of my country but Im not proud of my capital city.

Ang_Bantayanon

September 8th, 2010, 10:01 AM

@habagat

All we have to do is sip our tequilas and pinacoladas whilst declaring independence. Question, what is Philippine Miyerda and the Imperial Capital doing to change mindsets? Answer: Nothing. All they want is to carry on as they are.

I am quite surprised you missed this one. Apparently, some still do.
So if you don’t want to discuss solidarity with us because you are that "Filipino", then why linger on with us, hmmm?

:lol:

Hilig lang niyang makisawsaw but afterwards his bias against Cebu and the Cebuanos will just surface. I'm sure that it will once again reek with unfounded insecurity. :ohno:

Zuburbia

September 8th, 2010, 10:35 AM

House reps push for Cebu’s share

AT LEAST three Cebuano congressmen are pushing for the inclusion of some P1.4 billion for district projects in the national budget for 2011.

Rep. Benhur Salimbangon (Cebu Province, 4th district) said he submitted a proposed budget of P480 million, mostly for road concreting, construction of bridges and other infrastructure in the fourth district.

“We need to be ready at all times because if a congressman will not submit proposed projects, he will only have to rely on the P70 million per year allocated for the PDAF (Priority Development Assistance Fund),” Salimbangon said.

The House committee on appropriations began conducting hearings last week to examine Malacañang’s proposed 2011 budget.

Salimbangon said that in his district, P30 million of the P70-million PDAF, more popularly known as the “pork barrel”, goes to “soft” programs like hospitalization, burial assistance and scholarships. The remaining P40 million goes to infrastructure projects.

From 2007 to June 2010, Salimbangon said, he lobbied for the inclusion in the national budget of some P781 million worth of projects in his district.

Rep. Pablo John Garcia (Cebu Province, 3rd district) said he has submitted budget proposals amounting to some P500 million for Toledo City and the towns of Barili, Aloguinsan, Balamban, Asturias and Tuburan.

As chairman of the House committee on public order and safety, he added, he will also push for priority projects to improve the equipment of the police and the bureaus in charge of firefighting and jail management.

Rep. Ramon Durano VI (Cebu Province, 5th district) said his proposed budget for infrastructure, like road construction or road maintenance, among others, totaled P500 million and is included in the proposed budget for the Department of Public Works and Highways.

He is also lobbying for a roll-on, roll-off port in Pilar town, Camotes and the rehabilitation of the airport in San Francisco town, also in Camotes.

“This is important for the promotion of the tourism industry,” Durano said.

Garcia and Durano explained it is in hearings that some congressmen are able to insert budget proposals for their districts. (EOB)

RonnieR

September 8th, 2010, 10:48 AM

Yes, it is possible. :yes:

With the continued arrogance of Philippine Miyerda este Media,:lol: I believe ABS plans to produce more rubbish films & shows depicting Bisaya as their servants & butt of jokes. What can you expect from that ugly and slobbering faggot Abunda? No offense I mean not all homosexuals are freaking faggots, many of the decent gays are outside of showbiz. But in Phil. Miyerda it is infested with the ugliest and creepiest of them Faggots. :rofl:

The ideologists also show no signs of remorse at the DepEd...

The Tagalista ideology imagines itself to be successful already and that its grip on power is firm. I tell you, nothing can be farther from the truth. :) Many of them are ignorant of history. Greater and mightier empires than the Tagalista empire had fallen due to ethnic causes. Does Anyone remember the fate of the military powers Yugoslavia & the Soviet Union? It was ethnic secessions that caused both Yugoslavia and the USSR to collapse. Hence we have the term Balkanisation. :)

1. It is no secret that the Philippines is the weakest ASEAN republic. It cannot even quell a tiny minority of our Tausug & Maranao brethren fighting for the MILF & Abu Sayyaff. The Muslims are only 3% of the population yet the Republic is having a hard time with them. How much more if we join the fray, form an alliance with the Bangsa Moro and the ideologues now face 20 million angry Cebuanos? :lol: Mind you, the Tausug language accdg to linguists are under the category of Visayan. They are also our linguistic brothers. :yes: Our officials have nothing to fear from a Centre that has no viable fighter aircraft, very few boats. We can entice the Cebuano soldiers to join us by offering them higher pay and land. With a low morale Northern force, they will be too weak to form any invasion force. They will be too scared to land in a region where they cannot speak the language.

2. We will secure foreign recognition from China, Taiwan, North and South Korea. We can do this by relinguising claim over the Spratleys in favour of them; both China and Taiwan will be pleased with us.

3. We will have sufficient energy by establishing 2 nuclear power plants. I am thinking one will be in Siquijor. The 2nd in mainland Cebu. Self sufficiency in power = absolute independence! :banana:

4. We will wait for our Cebuano brethren in Mindanao to decide what they want. In the meantime, since we have few resources, we can build ourselves up into a Tax Haven just like Monaco, the Bahamas or Vanuatu. Another ploy is to follow suit with Macau and Singapore and build casinos, a great source of income. Both casinos and private banking are a great source of national income. :yes: We will become the playground of the world's rich and famous.

To even further guarantee our independence, we can entice the greedy and corrupt Manila politicians to do private banking with us. :lol:

5. We should encourage more and more industrialists to go into shipping.

6. East Timor is much smaller than us but it faced down a mighty Indon force and is now free. How much more for that stubborn but WEAK force up there, hmmm? :lol:

People who are smug think they are secure. But those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Balkanisation... What do you think? Any other suggestions on the floor? :)

I wonder how come this post is allowed? For disintegration of the republic?! You talked of Balkanization and East Timor but you failed to include in your statement the costs of their independence, the victims, death, destruction, isolation from outside world during those period.

You are insinuating that you support a Civil War! WTF! Is this SSC?????? for development?????????

RonnieR

September 8th, 2010, 10:50 AM

Im proud to be a Filipino, Im proud of my country but Im not proud of my capital city.

Why do you have to state this? What did the capital city do to you?

shadow_can2003

September 8th, 2010, 11:00 AM

Why do you have to state this? What did the capital city do to you?

I think this is all about budget etc..they want a bigger pie of the budget. But i have a question though. What is the value of the Cebu Economy? How much is their contribution to the national economy?

ormocanon

September 8th, 2010, 11:03 AM

shadow_can2003

September 8th, 2010, 11:07 AM

RonnieR

September 8th, 2010, 11:08 AM

I also read somewhere in this thread that Cebu follow the lead of Timor Leste, as if Cebuanos are that oppressed. Don't you know that in East Timor the rape of its women was systematized by the Indonesian army? Dapat lang na tumiwalag sila. Here in RP, Cebuanos are upheld as shining examples of industry, hard work and success. You go to Manila and mention the place Cebu and what comes to the Tagalogs' mind is a place where the rich and famous party.

Precisely! Only Mercato has that impression that is so moronic. He is trying to resurrect that dead idea on how the people in Luzon look at Cebu or Cebuanos. With this premise of alleged bias, he is clamoring for Balkanization and even mentioned East Timor. For God or devil's sake, Mercato should read first the COST OF WAR on those countries that disintegrated.

He claimed that the army in capital is weak! What does he want? A war between Luzon and Cebuano soldiers??????:bash:

Eastern Dragon

September 8th, 2010, 11:11 AM

RonnieR

September 8th, 2010, 11:13 AM

I think this is all about budget etc..they want a bigger pie of the budget. But i have a question though. What is the value of the Cebu Economy? How much is their contribution to the national economy?

Cebu is a major contributor to the Philippine economy. If I'm not mistaken, the share is 20% to total GDP and it is growing faster than the national average.

shadow_can2003

September 8th, 2010, 11:14 AM

RonnieR

September 8th, 2010, 11:16 AM

shadow_can2003

September 8th, 2010, 11:17 AM

Cebu is a major contributor to the Philippine economy. If I'm not mistaken, the share is 20% to total GDP and it is growing faster than the national average.

If that is true then they deserve to have a bigger budget. They deserve a better infra and social services budget. Sana magawan ng paraan para matigil na tong mga gulo.

Minnesota's Finest

September 8th, 2010, 11:18 AM

we do not want independence, just autonomy.

we do not want to be dictated by people who don't give a hoot to how we run our economy yet receive the largesse from our hard work.

for example, visayas and mindanao, when was the last time that a president came from visayas or mindanao?

the major networks are based in manila, the good thing about cable is that it has more or less lessened our dependence on news like gma or abs who do not even carry the results of the PBA so as not to promote the other studio.

a businessman from zamboanga city has to travel all the way to quezon city just to get a damned tax ruling which will take him at least 6 months to get.

a teacher from siquijor will have to travel to manila just to attend to hearings if he or she is administratively charged in relation to some elections.

why. why. why do we have to report everything to manila?

why can't we divide it to visayas, luzon and mindanao so that administration will be better. delivery of basic services alligned?

Buti nga federalism ang gusto ng cebu, or if not, autonomy, hindi outright independence.

RonnieR, look at how the people of the south are portrayed in the media, how condescending the treatment is, look at how tagalogs treat cebuanos OVERSEAS.

There is really this perception na ang bisaya, mindanoan, cebuano, waray, etc, etc, ay baduy, mangmang, ignorante atbp.

this perception is pervasive. You're not aware of it because you're a tagalog, you're not the recipient of racism.

The ilocanos, the bicolanos, the palawenos, they're not like the tagalogs when it comes to looking down at the cebuanos. Iba talaga ang pakikitungo ng mga alog sa mga bisaya.

Just because nasa capital kayo does not mean you have any right to treat the others with less respect. We are all equals, so respect us.

To end, what the cebuanos are expressing is a REACTION, IT IS A DEFENSIVE STANCE.

SleMarKen

September 8th, 2010, 11:24 AM

I think this is all about budget etc..they want a bigger pie of the budget. But i have a question though. What is the value of the Cebu Economy? How much is their contribution to the national economy?

but bigger? you mean gusto namin na mas malaki ang sa amin? Binabaliktad nyo kami e :bash: We want just our (vismin) fair share.

Why do you have to state this? What did the capital city do to you?

What's wrong? Will it hurt you that I like Bangkok more than Manila? Masakit ba? In Asian threads I was proud to post Manila pics there but now, sorry.

I also read somewhere in this thread that Cebu follow the lead of Timor Leste, as if Cebuanos are that oppressed. Don't you know that in East Timor the rape of its women was systematized by the Indonesian army? Dapat lang na tumiwalag sila. Here in RP, Cebuanos are upheld as shining examples of industry, hard work and success. You go to Manila and mention the place Cebu and what comes to the Tagalogs' mind is a place where the rich and famous party.

Salamat sa mga Tagalog. Dahil sa mga tagalog, umunlad ang Cebu. Dahil sa mga Tagalog mataas ang posistion ng mga Cebuanos sa trabaho sa Manila. Salamat sa Tagalog ang tinulungan nilang umangat ang ekonomiya nga Cebu at kahit kailan di nila pinagkaitan ng anumang bagay ang Cebu. Salamat din sa mga tagalog at mataas ang tingin nila sa lenguaheng Cebuano. Rinirespeto nila ang lenguaheng Cebuano at pinagmamalaki nila ito.

yan, hope you like it...lol

Eastern Dragon

September 8th, 2010, 11:26 AM

I am for federalism. This is my stand long long time ago.

federalism makes politicians more accountable and the citizens more responsible.

if the electorate chooses a bumbling local executive, then expect poor services. :lol:

kung tulog tulog lang lagi sa pansitang ang mga tao and just waiting for dole outs from the local government, sae thing.

at least, their status is a direct result of their efforts or lack thereof.

RonnieR

September 8th, 2010, 11:28 AM

Buti nga federalism ang gusto ng cebu, or if not, autonomy, hindi outright independence.

RonnieR, look at how the people of the south are portrayed in the media, how condescending the treatment is, look at how tagalogs treat cebuanos OVERSEAS.

There is really this perception na ang bisaya, mindanoan, cebuano, waray, etc, etc, ay baduy, mangmang, ignorante atbp.

this perception is pervasive. You're not aware of it because you're a tagalog, you're not the recipient of racism.

The ilocanos, the bicolanos, the palawenos, they're not like the tagalogs when it comes to looking down at the cebuanos. Iba talaga ang pakikitungo ng mga alog sa mga bisaya.

Just because nasa capital kayo does not mean you have any right to treat the others with less respect. We are all equals, so respect us.

To end, what the cebuanos are expressing is a REACTION, IT IS A DEFENSIVE STANCE.

I also deal with people from the South and I don't hear these complaints. Maybe that is your impression.

Stereotyping cannot be avoided but it is not so rampant. It also happens anywhere in the world.

Don't you know that there are so many executives in Metro Manila who are from the South or from the province? They are highly regarded.

Oh maiba tayo...
Aren't you aware the acceptance of people from the capital of those new discoveries na mga artista? :) I think alam mo na whom I am referring to. Marami sila from the South.

So, I think we should not be blinded of that OLD notion of bias.

Mercato

September 8th, 2010, 11:29 AM

I wonder how come this post is allowed? For disintegration of the republic?! You talked of Balkanization and East Timor but you failed to include in your statement the costs of their independence, the victims, death, destruction, isolation from outside world during those period.

You are insinuating that you support a Civil War! WTF! Is this SSC?????? for development????????? Relax. It is merely a reply to a hypothetical question posed by someone. :lol:

These are just random thoughts. :)
Precisely! Only Mercato has that impression that is so moronic. He is trying to resurrect that dead idea on how the people in Luzon look at Cebu or Cebuanos. With this premise of alleged bias, he is clamoring for Balkanization and even mentioned East Timor. For God or devil's sake, Mercato should read first the COST OF WAR on those countries that disintegrated.

He claimed that the army in capital is weak! What does he want? A war between Luzon and Cebuano soldiers??????:bash: Am I the one? :lol: Only I you say? :) I am merely following up on the Cebuano politicians re the infamous Gloria Diaz issue and it was also mentioned here about the Sakal 2007 movie, done by the same Diaz. I know these are non-issues to you but they stir up emotions amongst Cebuanos. Not only at SSC but at other forums as well. To include our Cebuano politicians. :)

Like I said, they are just random thoughts. Now relax. Tranquilo. :)
I am for federalism. This is my stand long long time ago. Well and good. :)

shadow_can2003

September 8th, 2010, 11:29 AM

SlerMarKen

that's what i meant sorry. bigger and fair share of the budget.

RonnieR

September 8th, 2010, 11:33 AM

What's wrong? Will it hurt you that I like Bangkok more than Manila? Masakit ba? In Asian threads I was proud to post Manila pics there but now, sorry.

Why should I be hurt? That's nothing.....you can hate the capital and shout it aloud.

We are not here to compare Manila or other city. Of course, the capital city, Cebu and any other place have positive and negative sides. This also applies to any place in the world.

SleMarKen

September 8th, 2010, 11:38 AM

Buti nga federalism ang gusto ng cebu, or if not, autonomy, hindi outright independence.

RonnieR, look at how the people of the south are portrayed in the media, how condescending the treatment is, look at how tagalogs treat cebuanos OVERSEAS.

There is really this perception na ang bisaya, mindanoan, cebuano, waray, etc, etc, ay baduy, mangmang, ignorante atbp.

this perception is pervasive. You're not aware of it because you're a tagalog, you're not the recipient of racism.

The ilocanos, the bicolanos, the palawenos, they're not like the tagalogs when it comes to looking down at the cebuanos. Iba talaga ang pakikitungo ng mga alog sa mga bisaya.

Just because nasa capital kayo does not mean you have any right to treat the others with less respect. We are all equals, so respect us.

To end, what the cebuanos are expressing is a REACTION, IT IS A DEFENSIVE STANCE.

We're 11 Pinoys here in penang in one company. 6 Tagalogs and 5 Cebuanos. We're close friends naman, we're all barkadas pero kung silang anim lang ang magkasabay kumain, I always hear them say something against Cebuanos. And as a person that is proud of my being Cebuano, I tell you when I hear them talk against us, "IT REALLY HURTS". kahit respeto man lang sana, magkakaibigan e, diba?

I agree mabait naman sila pero yun nga, pag wala kami :ohno:

Mercato

September 8th, 2010, 11:39 AM

^^ :lol: Oh well, believe what you like to believe @bai Mercato. I don't wanna argue with you folks here since I'll be sipping my tequila later tonight. Its celebration mode for me, personally. Jejeje!! :D Being Filipino for me doesn't mean being less Visayan. Same argument on why I am enamoured with Mexican culture and anything Hispanic doesn't mean I'm less Filipino. :colgate: Este es mis dos centavos amigo. :2cents:

BTW, Boy Abunda is born and raised in Borongan, Eastern Samar. :colgate:

That's wrapping up my case. I wouldn't bother asking about the topic anymore, jejeje!!! :D
Mira, tengo que decirte algo, companero. Aqui somos todos orgullos con nuestra herencia cebuana y herencia visaya tambien. Antes que todas cosas filipinas, primeramente yo soy cebuano. Porque es mi lengua natal y mi tierra adorada. Por eso yo creo que tengo razon aqui. Recuerde esto? Dr. Rizal dijo, No hay tiranos, donde no hay esclavos.

I am Cebuano = Visayan first, Filipino second. Mother tongue comes first, all the rest follows. My opinion only.

You are one of the few who are proud of the Hispanic cultural component of our culture, hence the Mexican hobby of yours, as well as his mother tongue/ Hiligaynon. Well and good. You seem to share the same views of Hispanidad and Las Filipinas with many hispanistas in the other world.
Buenas noches. Enjoy the tequila. :)
The maneuverings made to attach Palawan to Region IVB from Western Visayas is basically a move to share some of Palawans riches to its regional neighbors, IMO. It is based on the "big brother" idea that most RDC's are designed to operate. Who will benefit? - Mindoro, Romblon, Marinduque, or even the Southern Tagalog Region! The fact that it took the Palawan Provincial Government a very, very long time to get their share of the fruits of the Malampaya Gas Project is testament of the imperial Manila's unwillingness to return the good graces due to the Palawan government.

My first travel in the province of Palawan was a bone-breaking 6 and a half hours on bad roads. I joked a lot on my Palawan friends of their province's "tulays" (bridges) being just "1-lays"(not 2-lays) because most of the reported completed bridges were actually half of the standard two-lane Philippine bridges! And the road is very chocolate when wet and very face powder during summer (typical macadam roads).
The point I would like to tell is that Palawan is very rich in minerals and oil, not to mention the untouched beauty nature lovers will surely fall for. But for some time in the past, the province was left-out in infra projects. All those conditions were changed when the provincial government started infrastructure projects:

The northern road concreting from Puerto Princesa up to Sabang, El Nido (probably fruits of work of then DOT Sec. Ace Durano who kept pushing for the project to lure more tourists to the Subterranean River);
The south road concreting up to Rio Tuba, Bataraza, Palawan, a PEZA location and
The upgrading of the Puerto Princesa Airport (there were other smaller projects though).

These projects were funded under the P2.6 billion gas revenue share from the US$4.5 billion Malampaya Natural Gas Project offshore Palawan. Although the southern portion of the project is still on-going, you can travel 250 km in four and 1/2 hours!

read (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/86901/palawan-to-get-p26-billion-in-royalties-from-malampaya-yield)

Truly, the Palawenos repaid the previous administration by voting into office PGMA's ally, former congressman Baham Mitra as governor of Palawan in the last elections. Very good points, Parchie. :cheers:

Minnesota's Finest

September 8th, 2010, 11:41 AM

I also deal with people from the South and I don't hear these complaints. Maybe that is your impression.

Stereotyping cannot be avoided but it is not so rampant. It also happens anywhere in the world.

Don't you know that there are so many executives in Metro Manila who are from the South or from the province? They are highly regarded.

Oh maiba tayo...
Aren't you aware the acceptance of people from the capital of those new discoveries na mga artista? :) I think alam mo na whom I am referring to. Marami sila from the South.

So, I think we should not be blinded of that OLD notion of bias.

Well, that is your opinion, your perspective, your viewpoint. I respect that. And I recognize the fact that I cannot change your opinion otherwise.

Similarly, you cannot change my opinion on the matter at hand. :lol:

Mercato

September 8th, 2010, 11:42 AM

umh, sir @mwg, i didn't quite get what you meant about the one I highlighted.

with regards to Cebuanos being the ones who gets easily affected, its because its a general thought that when you speak of bisaya, people associate it with Cebu in one way or the other. I mean, when I was in Manila a few years ago, I was asked by a sari-sari store vendor because she overheard me talked in Cebuano with my cousin while waiting for a jeepney to SM Fairview. she asked me if I am from Cebu because probably what might be running through her mind was my bisaya. but say for example I wasn't a bisaya from Cebu and say, I'm from Dipolog and I speak Cebuano also then I'm pretty sure that sari-sari vendor would still think I am from Cebu because I speak Cebuano bisaya. but if I were from Bacolod, I don't think they'd call my language bisaya bec. obviously it would be ilonggo. the ilonggos and warays may not care about it because all three of the visayan languages have different intonations. the ilonggos are well known for their soft spoken tongue, the cebuanos pretty much on the middle while the warays are famous for their hard tone. but amongst the 3 of these, many people would still refer to bisaya as Cebuano.

If indeed Manilans do think Cebuanos are sophisticated bisaya and the rest are promdis, remember that Cebuano is spoken by an estimated 22 million people across the visayas and mindanao. If a manila peep bashes a bisaya, even though he/she might not actually refer to the Cebuano populace in Cebu, the reaction would somehow cause Cebuanos to be alarmed because of that bisaya-tagged that is linked to Cebu. para kasing naging tagasalo tuloy ang mga Cebuanos sa lahat ng mga stereotypes against bisaya even though hindi naman talaga sila ang tinutukoy. ;)

In fairness to @bai mwg, he is the only one thus far amongst the Northern visitors who had acknowledged the Gloria D mistake and the mindset we had spoken of earlier. I am also glad our Ylonggo brethren are supportive. :)

All the rest of the “friends” and visitors had chosen to keep quiet on the issue, for reasons we have yet to fathom. :)

Some of our visitors cannot even disguise their contempt for Cebuanos. :)

SleMarKen

September 8th, 2010, 11:42 AM

SlerMarKen

that's what i meant sorry. bigger and fair share of the budget.

It's ok, i'm sorry too:)

Minnesota's Finest

September 8th, 2010, 11:46 AM

We're 11 Pinoys here in penang in one company. 6 Tagalogs and 5 Cebuanos. We're close friends naman, we're all barkadas pero kung silang anim lang ang magkasabay kumain, I always hear them say something against Cebuanos. And as a person that is proud of my being Cebuano, I tell you when I hear them talk against us, "IT REALLY HURTS". kahit respeto man lang sana, magkakaibigan e, diba?

I agree mabait naman sila pero yun nga, pag wala kami :ohno:

I experienced that too. And my friends din. But, sanay na rin kami, we just shrug it.

Grabe sila mag react, parang revelation na despite the progress made in the media and movies, nag eexist pa rin pala ang ganun na bagay. Kala nila wala na.

As recently as 2 weeks ago, I was asked "may kuryente rin ba dun sa iloilo?" haha! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

a_terisk78y™

September 8th, 2010, 11:48 AM

and the worst thing is,i was asked if may sm and ayala pa sa cebu? hehe.

Mercato

September 8th, 2010, 11:49 AM

SlerMarKen

that's what i meant sorry. bigger and fair share of the budget. You think this is all about the money? :)

I suggest you read back a few hundred pages, old boy (kidding, maybe 20 or more pages) :) I think I see more cultural issues being talked about.

All this brouhaha stems from mindsets which need changing.

SleMarKen

September 8th, 2010, 11:50 AM

RonnieR

September 8th, 2010, 11:53 AM

I experienced that too. And my friends din. But, sanay na rin kami, we just shrug it.

Grabe sila mag react, parang revelation na despite the progress made in the media and movies, nag eexist pa rin pala ang ganun na bagay. Kala nila wala na.

As recently as 2 weeks ago, I was asked "may kuryente rin ba dun sa iloilo?" haha! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

and the worst thing is,i was asked if may sm and ayala pa sa cebu? hehe.

Guys, do you think it's necessary to post those hyperbole statements? I really doubt if people really asked these things to you except if they are ignorant, moron or uneducated.

That query on electricity is worse. 95% of the country has electricity according to government. I would understand if the person who asked you is a cave man.

Kaltehitze

September 8th, 2010, 11:54 AM

I experienced that too. And my friends din. But, sanay na rin kami, we just shrug it.

Grabe sila mag react, parang revelation na despite the progress made in the media and movies, nag eexist pa rin pala ang ganun na bagay. Kala nila wala na.

As recently as 2 weeks ago, I was asked "may kuryente rin ba dun sa iloilo?" haha! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

and the worst thing is,i was asked if may sm and ayala pa sa cebu? hehe.

HAH! wala kayo sa akin! I was asked by my tagalog friend, "NAKATIKIM KA NA BA NG DONUT?" "CIVILIZED DIN BA ANG CITY MO?"

Ang kapatid ko was asked by his classmate in UA&P: "May sasakyan din ba sa inyo o kalabaw pa rin ba ang sinasakyan nyo dun?" :banana::banana::banana:

My girfriend recieved this compliment from her schoolmates in UST: "Uy, marunong ka pala mag english? di ba taga iloilo ka?" :banana::banana::banana:

Kahit gagawa pa ako ng sworn statement and affidavit regarding these statements, haha! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kaltehitze

September 8th, 2010, 11:56 AM

kindofperfect82888

September 8th, 2010, 11:59 AM

CEBU CITY - Night dwellers or people who sleep on Cebu City's sidewalks at night will be moved to block 27 of the North Reclamation Area. They will sleep in container vans. This move is part of the city's efforts to clean up Cebu City.

maayong balita jud ni bay.. i hope limpyohan pud na nila ang fuente circle area sa mga street beggars.. grabe, daw usa ka batalyon ang naa.. :lol: seriously, grabe kaayo mga beggars..

RonnieR

September 8th, 2010, 12:00 PM

Kaltehitze

September 8th, 2010, 12:04 PM

Unbelievable......you even quoted UA & P. Flaming for regional war:bash:

what's a regional war?

RonnieR

September 8th, 2010, 12:07 PM

what's a regional war?

I remember you were the one who was stopped by habagat central in City of Manila thread because of your posts.....Anyway, no need to explain.

This is about Cebu City thread.

bakasaurus

September 8th, 2010, 12:11 PM

Oi unsan na ni, time for kiss and make up and group hug and world peace? Hahaha.

To the tagalogs who post here defensively, although some of the people's reactions here seem blown out of proportion to you, don't fret if you are not of the kind who looks down on other people outside the capital. I think it is directed towards others who are of that kind, not YOU. I hope you don't come here in defense and denial that the discrimination does not happen. Many of us here have personal experiences about it, and if you insist that it isn't true, then you can just assume that we are having a mass delusion here. Hehe.

Just as one forumer here suggested, we are more acutely sensitive towards these happenings because we are the recipient of the discrimination. Of course, it is not as blatantly cruel as those experienced by the African Americans in the US decades ago, but it is still demeaning and annoying and makes us feel like the lesser Filipino in status.
In reality, we often are civil about it and not as outspoken here in the forum. I have some friends here too who were sent here for training in the IT field, and I had to answer as politely and restrained as I could even if I heard them say quite condescending things about Cebu and Cebuanos because they are actually from Manila who are currently working in Cebu when the same company sent them here for training.
NO, I DIDN'T DECLARE WAR ON THEM. Haha. And you know what, most Cebuanos actually try to understand that, ah, maybe it is not really their fault individually, and we try to look at it as the outcome of a BIASED media. We say, ah, they were probably not entirely at fault because they were brought up that way and of course, to avoid strained relations, pakikisama kumbaga. But I believe now, IT IS NOT ALWAYS the best way to just CONDONE that kind of behavior because they would think it's okay. We need to give them a piece of our minds IF WE WANT them to stop doing it.

And you say, what about the Ilocanos, the people from Batangas and Laguna who are also treated the same way. Well, I also ask the other way. Why do they just let it all pass? They are spoiling the Tagalogs (not all of course, but still several of them).
You know what, it is not that Cebuanos are so uptight and dead serious that we can't laugh at ourselves. We do. But there is a line crossed between plain fun and ridicule.
And boy, I think we have the chutzpah, enough balls to stand up against that kind of "civil" oppression. If other ethnic groups don't do it, well, WE WILL, and we are doing it.

Again, no offense really to those Tagalogs who are not of the kind we are talking about here.

RonnieR

September 8th, 2010, 12:21 PM

Kaltehitze

September 8th, 2010, 12:24 PM

You're right...I also believe that discrimination exists but to say that it is overwhelming or rampant is an exaggeration.

It could be that I deal with people who don't do it.

I reacted strongly to the posts by Mercato about disintegration of the country.

You said right. :)

Just chill man, its just the freedom of speech in action.

What's a regional war?

RonnieR

September 8th, 2010, 12:24 PM

You said right. :)

Just chill man, its just the freedom of speech in action.

What's a regional war?

CvC....

Kaltehitze

September 8th, 2010, 12:25 PM

CvC....

what's that?

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 8th, 2010, 12:25 PM

Correct. Masyado lang sensitive ang mga ibang forumers dito.:ohno:

Diba one time in our history there is a Cebuano president? Bakit kaya hindi siya ang sisihin niyo?[/QUOTE]

oops, don't even drag Cebu's grand old man to your rigid brain! YES, President Sergio Osmeña is a Cebuano and became our nation's president ONLY ONLY ONLY by SUCCESSION and not through ELECTION!!!! gets mo? and NEVER EVER in the history of the nation had a CEBUANO been elected the highest position in the land!

bakit nga ba walang cebuano o bisaya for that matter? a cebuano/bisaya president seating in manila? ohhhh common' that soooo ridiculous! tagalogs would certainly oust him immediately!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

and speaking of President Sergio Osmeña, CEBU is going to celebrate his 130th birthday tomorrow September 9!!!! CEBU will enjoy a longer weekend ahead than the rest!!! :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 8th, 2010, 12:37 PM

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 8th, 2010, 12:40 PM

You're right...I also believe that discrimination exists but to say that it is overwhelming or rampant is an exaggeration.

It could be that I deal with people who don't do it.

I reacted strongly to the posts by Mercato about disintegration of the country.

exactly! i just hope i could find fellow tagalogs like you when I plan to go elsewhere here and around the world! :)

Mercato

September 8th, 2010, 12:41 PM

Precisely! Only Mercato has that impression that is so moronic. He is trying to resurrect that dead idea on how the people in Luzon look at Cebu or Cebuanos.You're right...I also believe that discrimination exists but to say that it is overwhelming or rampant is an exaggeration.

It could be that I deal with people who don't do it.

I reacted strongly to the posts by Mercato about disintegration of the country. As you were saying? Mine were hypothetical responses to the queries at hand. :lol:

I know your style. :lol: Before you launch on the isolate Mercato because he is the only one with this “moronic impressions”, why don’t you open your eyes which are wide shut? Maybe it is you has lost touch with the common Cebuano and Visayan folks. Everyone around have had their fair share of experiences and they had already told their stories. :)

All the Media references to the Bisaya maids are abundant in Youtube. Philippine Media is full of it, the snide remarks when it comes to bad language usage. Again to trivialize things as exaggeration will never be a good solution, I kid thee not. Whilst it is a good thing, this Positive Always mentality that you have, sometimes it can go overboard and it can make you lose touch of reality.

Well, its only our opinion. :)

Zuburbia

September 8th, 2010, 12:42 PM

Guys, do you think it's necessary to post those hyperbole statements? I really doubt if people really asked these things to you except if they are ignorant, moron or uneducated.

That query on electricity is worse. 95% of the country has electricity according to government. I would understand if the person who asked you is a cave man.

ang mga tanong na ito were obviously intended para mang-asar sa mga tao na tingin nila probinsyano kasi nga bisaya and from the south..its really true, many people from the tagalog region, even those who are educated think like this..maybe because on how the media represents cebuano or bisaya in general..eh ma edukado o walang pinag-aralan nanunuod nang TV at pelikula..kaya ganun karamihan ang alam at yun din ang pinaparating nila sa mga taga bisaya, lalo na sa mga tagalog na hindi pa nakarating sa visayas at mindanao....

and its been a common experience among bisayans who mingled with tagalogs..
I also experienced that when i went abroad in the middle east...sa department namin when we came, there were only few of us who are bisayans tatlo lang ata kami, hindi ko akalain na toto-o nga pala yung mga sinasabi nang kababayan kong bisaya na ang mga tagalog mahilig mangunder...mga tatlo lang kaming bisaya sa office, 2 cebuano ang 1 ilonggo..wala silang ibang ginawa kundi asarin and gawan kami nang mali and talk bad things behind our back, i cannot believe that its like we are entering a fraternity that we must first have to respect and bow to them before we can freely join and be part of the department.... but we the bisayans did the opposite we fought back and reported the incidents to our foreign boss... tamimi sila, and thats the time we gain their respect, at takot nang mang-asar! lalo na yung isang bisaya na kasama namin hinamon yung isa sa kanila nang suntokan, eh natakot! hahaha!
Isa ding kakilala namin who is surigaonon bisaya, siya ang palaging ginagawang katatawanan at tinutokso nang mga tagalog kasi hindi siya marunong nang accent nang tagalog, palagi nilang pinupuna pag nagtatagalog kasi matigas at talagang lumalabas ang surigaonon accent nya...

those kinds of experience are also very common among my friends who are working in dubai, sabi nila mahirap pkisamahan ang mga tagalog kasi mahilig daw mang-under palaging superior...unlike bisayans as long as ur jamming and knows how to socialize u are most welcome!!!!:):):)

Mercato

September 8th, 2010, 12:46 PM

:)
In fairness to @bai mwg, he is the only one thus far amongst the Northern visitors who had acknowledged the Gloria D mistake and the mindset we had spoken of earlier. I am also glad our Ylonggo brethren are supportive. :)

All the rest of the “friends” and visitors had chosen to keep quiet on the issue, for reasons we have yet to fathom. :)

Some of our visitors cannot even disguise their contempt for Cebuanos. :)

One of you guys should run for Congress and file the bill for Federalism or a HK like set up, one country, two system. :D I believe there is already a growing grassroots move at federalism. I think there were moves by some politicians during the time of Gloria Arroyo and you can also see the great number of forumers with siggys bearing the federalist cause. Autonomy and Federalism are a better alternative.

Amusing. The more that Philippine Media, the current mindset we had spoken of earlier + the other kibitzers with their sarcastic remarks continue on as they are, the more they add fuel to Cebuano patriotism and the federalist cause. What dreams are made of.

:cheers:

Daizuke

September 8th, 2010, 12:47 PM

Hays!

OT lng ko.... Kinsay does anyone know the contact numbers of Toshiba Concept Store sa SM Cebu?

sir rob

September 8th, 2010, 12:56 PM

Guys, do you think it's necessary to post those hyperbole statements? I really doubt if people really asked these things to you except if they are ignorant, moron or uneducated.

I'm not sure if it is necessary to post it but I believe they are just giving example but I NEVER doubted that there are still people who asked those kind of questions. I don't what to call them, they graduated a bachelors course, got a license, could be partly ignorant or simply just stupid.

kindofperfect82888

September 8th, 2010, 12:58 PM

Zuburbia

September 8th, 2010, 12:59 PM

I also deal with people from the South and I don't hear these complaints. Maybe that is your impression.

Stereotyping cannot be avoided but it is not so rampant. It also happens anywhere in the world.

Don't you know that there are so many executives in Metro Manila who are from the South or from the province? They are highly regarded.

Oh maiba tayo...
Aren't you aware the acceptance of people from the capital of those new discoveries na mga artista? :) I think alam mo na whom I am referring to. Marami sila from the South.

So, I think we should not be blinded of that OLD notion of bias.

they were accepted in the capital because they adapted the tagalog style already, maybe because they lived there for quite awhile, and have lost the cebuano traits in them such as accents...what about those who are really full blooded cebuano whos language, ways and culture depicts purely a cebuano, would you think he/she will be fully accepted as a serious persona, or bka ilalagay na naman sa comedy? hahahaha

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 8th, 2010, 01:18 PM

I also read somewhere in this thread that Cebu follow the lead of Timor Leste, as if Cebuanos are that oppressed. Don't you know that in East Timor the rape of its women was systematized by the Indonesian army? Dapat lang na tumiwalag sila. Here in RP, Cebuanos are upheld as shining examples of industry, hard work and success. You go to Manila and mention the place Cebu and what comes to the Tagalogs' mind is a place where the rich and famous party.
Correct. Masyado lang sensitive ang mga ibang forumers dito.:ohno:

asus, sino bang niloloko nyo?! ha! wag nyong lokohin ang mga cebuanos! ang lokohin nyo mga sarili nyo! di nyo kami madadala sa mga ganyang usapan! eh kailan pa naging sobrang ASTIG ang cebu sa mata ng mga kurimaw na mga tagalog?! nagkiat lang ng imong dagway dah! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

diehardbisdak

September 8th, 2010, 02:09 PM

Hays!

OT lng ko.... Kinsay does anyone know the contact numbers of Toshiba Concept Store sa SM Cebu?

...remember google?...hehehe...joke lang bai...here:

(032)4129344

:D

Parchie

September 8th, 2010, 03:13 PM

i have also the same experience, when me and my family went to the vatican a tagalog speaking family (i dont know if they really are tagalogs) made a stink eye on us.. i heard one of them saying 'Ay bisaya'. i did not know what that meant.

How about hearing this; "PU_ _NG INANG BISAYA!" I almost punched the guy who said that. Good I was a bit far from him. You don't have to be knowledgeable of the Tagalog language to understand those either!

donut_bai

September 8th, 2010, 03:27 PM

oops, don't even drag Cebu's grand old man to your rigid brain! YES, President Sergio Osmeña is a Cebuano and became our nation's president ONLY ONLY ONLY by SUCCESSION and not through ELECTION!!!! gets mo? and NEVER EVER in the history of the nation had a CEBUANO been elected the highest position in the land!

bakit nga ba walang cebuano o bisaya for that matter? a cebuano/bisaya president seating in manila? ohhhh common' that soooo ridiculous! tagalogs would certainly oust him immediately!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

and speaking of President Sergio Osmeña, CEBU is going to celebrate his 130th birthday tomorrow September 9!!!! CEBU will enjoy a longer weekend ahead than the rest!!! :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Right President Osmena lost to President Roxas, a fellow visayan in the elections after World War II. I believe President Garcia is from Bohol but his parents are from Abra. President Roxas is from Capiz. These are the only presidents I can think of that comes from the south. I maybe wrong but none from Mindanao so far. With the current system in our country, the many outstanding minds and talents we have from the south will never have a chance to lead our country. Such a shame, but as @Ronnie said at least may sumisikat na na artista from the south, I hope hinde lang sa comedy, :lol: and hey we can always do business right?

shadow_can2003

September 8th, 2010, 03:40 PM

asus, sino bang niloloko nyo?! ha! wag nyong lokohin ang mga cebuanos! ang lokohin nyo mga sarili nyo! di nyo kami madadala sa mga ganyang usapan! eh kailan pa naging sobrang ASTIG ang cebu sa mata ng mga kurimaw na mga tagalog?! nagkiat lang ng imong dagway dah! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

parang sinabi monaring walang confidence ang mga cebuano nyan. ang nakakatuwa kayo tong nagrereklamo about racism but look what your doing. :ohno:

Trigonometry101

September 8th, 2010, 03:43 PM

what's that?

City vs. City sir.

I miss Cebu. Im going to be back this December :banana:

diehardbisdak

September 8th, 2010, 03:53 PM

...early Christmas wish:

"peace and stability to SSC-Cebu's Thread"

:)

shadow_can2003

September 8th, 2010, 03:56 PM

...early Christmas wish:

"peace and stability to SSC-Cebu's Thread"

:)

sorry diehard and sa lahat . I hope this debate will end :)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

September 8th, 2010, 04:01 PM

parang sinabi monaring walang confidence ang mga cebuano nyan. ang nakakatuwa kayo tong nagrereklamo about racism but look what your doing. :ohno:

hahahaha... kung kayo rin lang ang magsasabi nyan, WAG NA! might as well throw it in the amazon river and let it feed with hungry BUAYAS waiting for you! :lol::lol::lol:

mwg12a

September 8th, 2010, 04:04 PM

umh, sir @mwg, i didn't quite get what you meant about the one I highlighted.

with regards to Cebuanos being the ones who gets easily affected, its because its a general thought that when you speak of bisaya, people associate it with Cebu in one way or the other. I mean, when I was in Manila a few years ago, I was asked by a sari-sari store vendor because she overheard me talked in Cebuano with my cousin while waiting for a jeepney to SM Fairview. she asked me if I am from Cebu because probably what might be running through her mind was my bisaya. but say for example I wasn't a bisaya from Cebu and say, I'm from Dipolog and I speak Cebuano also then I'm pretty sure that sari-sari vendor would still think I am from Cebu because I speak Cebuano bisaya. but if I were from Bacolod, I don't think they'd call my language bisaya bec. obviously it would be ilonggo. the ilonggos and warays may not care about it because all three of the visayan languages have different intonations. the ilonggos are well known for their soft spoken tongue, the cebuanos pretty much on the middle while the warays are famous for their hard tone. but amongst the 3 of these, many people would still refer to bisaya as Cebuano.

If indeed Manilans do think Cebuanos are sophisticated bisaya and the rest are promdis, remember that Cebuano is spoken by an estimated 22 million people across the visayas and mindanao. If a manila peep bashes a bisaya, even though he/she might not actually refer to the Cebuano populace in Cebu, the reaction would somehow cause Cebuanos to be alarmed because of that bisaya-tagged that is linked to Cebu. para kasing naging tagasalo tuloy ang mga Cebuanos sa lahat ng mga stereotypes against bisaya even though hindi naman talaga sila ang tinutukoy. ;)

Honestly, alot of non bisaya would not be able to tell the difference between how Illongo and Cebuano bisaya would sound like. To most non bisaya the words sound pretty much the same just as how I thought before that Bicolano dialect sounds the same as bisaya. You could take it as ignorance but it just so happen that our ears are not use to hearing bisaya or illongo all the time. I came to realize only when my uncles on my father side married a Bisaya, then I learn from them the way I learn things from my Cebuana wife.

Your second paragraph is what I was trying to ask before these. That answered my curious question.

Parchie

September 8th, 2010, 04:05 PM

sorry diehard and sa lahat . I hope this debate will end :)

So many words had been thrown, ain't that simple bro! For as long as we continue to hear slurs, see those sharp looks, and those debasing comments, we will stand our ground, make no mistake about that.
It's good you hear Visayan people ranting, what's fearful is when you won't hear us talking, you know what that means!

Zuburbia

September 8th, 2010, 04:05 PM

sorry diehard and sa lahat . I hope this debate will end :)

^^
manulod man gud mo gud.. :lol:nagkalingaw ra gani mig hisgot2x kung unsa kahag mosukwahi mis plano sa kaulohan og maghimo mig amo para pod sa among kaayohan kay kung magsalig mi ninyos manila, maabtan mig siyam2x wa jud mi gihapoy ayo, apil jud pirmes dautang kahig sa manila og di magahinan og kaayohan sa sentralisado niining pang gobyerno! :ohno:

mwg12a

September 8th, 2010, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by ormocanon
I also read somewhere in this thread that Cebu follow the lead of Timor Leste, as if Cebuanos are that oppressed. Don't you know that in East Timor the rape of its women was systematized by the Indonesian army? Dapat lang na tumiwalag sila. Here in RP, Cebuanos are upheld as shining examples of industry, hard work and success. You go to Manila and mention the place Cebu and what comes to the Tagalogs' mind is a place where the rich and famous party.

asus, sino bang niloloko nyo?! ha! wag nyong lokohin ang mga cebuanos! ang lokohin nyo mga sarili nyo! di nyo kami madadala sa mga ganyang usapan! eh kailan pa naging sobrang ASTIG ang cebu sa mata ng mga kurimaw na mga tagalog?! nagkiat lang ng imong dagway dah! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

You'd be surprised! That guy is telling you the truth, I don't think they are saying that just to fool you guys.

If I may share a personal experience and through my mother... when I was younger, they did mention about how filipinos don't get along, she did mention something about avoiding bisayas (I won't mention which provinces or impressions they have because it might offend them and that's not my intention, and i know half of them are not accurate) from this and that area, the one thing she mentioned was Cebuanos among other bisaya are easier to get along because they are mild mannered i guess her actual words are "mas maayos makasama ang mga taga Cebu kaysa ibang bisaya". This is a true story and I am not making these up, she passed away already so I am pretty sure I won't use her name vain.

I'm pretty sure just like what you mentioned above, if a non bisaya is teased or ridiculed in Manila say for instance on tv. Cebuanos would react as well even if it is not directly pointed to them, but just because the word Bisaya sounds like more of a generalization.

SleMarKen

September 8th, 2010, 04:22 PM

Asa man kuno ni be?

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2503/dsc00001c.jpg (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/dsc00001c.jpg/)

mwg12a

September 8th, 2010, 04:26 PM

bakit nga ba walang cebuano o bisaya for that matter? a cebuano/bisaya president seating in manila? ohhhh common' that soooo ridiculous! tagalogs would certainly oust him immediately!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

and speaking of President Sergio Osmeña, CEBU is going to celebrate his 130th birthday tomorrow September 9!!!! CEBU will enjoy a longer weekend ahead than the rest!!! :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Good question on why there is no President from Cebu or from the Visayas except Osmeña, considering the population of the Bisaya speaking population is greater than tagalog. You would also be thinking why it seems like these past administration are being run with either Ilocano or kapangpangan... We have no real tagalog president in along while, I guess since the late President Magsaysay who died in a plane crash.

you like to reason out but you tagalog people don't wanna admit on your own stupidity!!!:bash:

^^ As you said, he's REASONING OUT. So why the hostility? :ohno:

Thanks ormocanon, it's cool. I don't think he understood clearly. He didn't even realize I was refering to filipinos as a whole and how foreigners perceived us... he probably is in regional attack mode. Ignorance at it best, sometimes you can't just do anything except what u did :ohno::lol:

The only thing I can really see on these is that, those tagalogs who chose to be ignorant or simply to have fun at the expense of others is pretty much the same as how Americans mock other people from India especially on tv or perhaps how they portray Mexicans just how you see how they use that mexican guy as part of their comedy skit in Kimmel show. I know how bisayans would feel because once in awhile, I get a share of it from my American coworkers who are mostly guys, it's just how you take it... They show respect to you but in times of laugher, you receive that blow, especially me since half of the time I look like an arab so you can just imagine how I get called "a terrorist" or imitate the way I talk, just to tease me. One thing is for sure, I always give them the same grief fair is fair.

Parchie

September 8th, 2010, 04:27 PM

Asa man kuno ni be?

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2503/dsc00001c.jpg (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/dsc00001c.jpg/)

Sirit! Mora ug nakita nako ang Crown Regency sa likod, lisud ug way compass points!

Henz

September 8th, 2010, 04:57 PM

HAH! wala kayo sa akin! I was asked by my tagalog friend, "NAKATIKIM KA NA BA NG DONUT?" "CIVILIZED DIN BA ANG CITY MO?"

Ang kapatid ko was asked by his classmate in UA&P: "May sasakyan din ba sa inyo o kalabaw pa rin ba ang sinasakyan nyo dun?" :banana::banana::banana:

My girfriend recieved this compliment from her schoolmates in UST: "Uy, marunong ka pala mag english? di ba taga iloilo ka?" :banana::banana::banana:

Kahit gagawa pa ako ng sworn statement and affidavit regarding these statements, haha! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

my sister in law and her visayan friends.. in cyprus.. is always at odds with the Luzon people and the Tagalogs......

one time she was asked... May mall ba sa inyo.... seguro ang POOR ng lugar ninyo....... :lol::lol:

Kaya ayun.. she brought along with her tons of videos and pictures of Cebu when she gets to have a vacation here last month, para makita nya ang Cebu...:lol:

Zuburbia

September 8th, 2010, 05:00 PM

Asa man kuno ni be?

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2503/dsc00001c.jpg (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/dsc00001c.jpg/)

sa jacosalem st. man ni...centro maximo ngan sa building?

slimer

September 8th, 2010, 05:01 PM

bitaw asa man na?

Henz

September 8th, 2010, 05:09 PM

Zuburbia

September 8th, 2010, 05:13 PM

Youre right @ bakasaurus....

Because, i am regularly in Manila naman.. And whenever i go, i always speak in Cebuano, even in store/ boutiques ( hehehe.. you know Slerz):lol:

But not in any case i did not experienced being looked down.. In fairness, most of the Tagalogs i meet are even amazed...

" Uy taga Cebu ka, naku.. ang sarap ng lechon dun.... or nakarating na ako dun, ang ganda dun..... Uy ang ganda ng Waterfront.... or ang daming magaganda dun... etc.

So in fairness naman to the Tagalogs... who are well educated, ( mwg and RonnieR is right) most of them look to Cebuanos with high esteem and admiration... I personally experienced that....

So lets us not stereotype also that all Tagalogs are like that..

But they could not deny the fact that there are really stereotyping against the Cebuanos and the Visayans in the Capital;.... and even well educated people do that... :)

bitaw sakto ka henz..pero kasagaran jud...labi nang naa juy part sa luzon nga grabe jud, di lang tagalog, pero di nalang kay mosamot kagubot...hahaha!

ferny123

September 8th, 2010, 05:37 PM

Because of what the people of Manila are doing to us here in the south, thats the reason why The Philippines is being left behind by our neighboring ASEAN countries. The only thing that can help the Philippines overcome such adversities is for us to stop treating one another with hate or racial disgust. Only then will the words united we stand will truly be accomplished.

its not purely manila's fault. i dont have the right figures but i think 50% of people living in manila today are not native manileno's. they came from other parts of the country. and i think it also doesnt account those people who went to manila from other parts of the country before world war 2. so when you look at the big picture people in manila is a congregation of all ethnic backgrounds.

so if we use logic if manila is mixture of all people in the philippines; manila is the problem of the philippines therefore all the people in the philippines is the problem. its sounds wrong but i think its true.

ferny123

September 8th, 2010, 05:41 PM

from wikipedia

in the year 1903

The Malay population divided by language

* Christian (Mainly Roman Catholic)
o Visayan: 3,219,030
o Tagalog: 1,460,695
o Ilocano: 803,942
o Bicol: 566,635
o Pangasinan: 343,686
o Pampanga: 280,984
o Cagayan: 159,648
* Muslim
o Moro: 277,547
* Igorot
o Igorot: 211,520

ferny123

September 8th, 2010, 05:49 PM

wikipedia again

Ethnic groups

Tagalog 28.1%,
Cebuano 13.1%,
Ilocano 9%,
Bisaya/Binisaya 7.6%,
Hiligaynon Ilonggo 7.5%,
Bikol 6%,
Waray 3.4%,
Kapampangan 3%,
other 25.3%
(2000 census)

total bisaya is 20.8%

total tagalog is 28.1%
but it doesnt account the people who have ethnic roots in other parts of the philiipines i guess 40% of the total 28.1% tagalog ethnic count is mixed roots of coming from other ethnic backgrounds

cebuboi

September 8th, 2010, 06:14 PM

bitaw sakto na ni oy...PEACE na....kapoy sige balik2x mura ug plaka guba.....total we had already said piece...we already laid our cards... i think its time to move on...we have lost track of what this thread supposed to be...progress and developments na sad ta... kung naa gani mosingit ato na lang pasida-an nga ayaw na lang ug daghang kyaw kyaw pa back read na lang...kay kapoy ug explain unya mulang gihapon di kasabot...basin nya molanat pa ni usa ka semana nya wa ta agi kaskas lang ta sa panahon nya walay maani....kay walay makasabot o kaha dili gustong mosabot...SAKTO NAAAAAAAAA.....

MatudNilaBaby

September 8th, 2010, 06:23 PM

CEBU CITY - Night dwellers or people who sleep on Cebu City's sidewalks at night will be moved to block 27 of the North Reclamation Area. They will sleep in container vans. This move is part of the city's efforts to clean up Cebu City.

con makatulog na sila sa container van palutawon dayon sa lawod para malimpyo na gyud ang syudad:lol::lol::lol:

Jimbu

September 8th, 2010, 06:38 PM

Filinvest eyes investment at landfill (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=610407&publicationSubCategoryId=107)
By Garry B. Lao/JPM
(The Freeman)
Updated September 09, 2010

CEBU, Philippines – Filinvest Land Inc., the property unit of Taipan Andrew Gotianun Sr., expresses interest to invest on the construction and operation of a waste management facility and power plant in Cebu City.

Thinking of a possible joint venture agreement with the City Government, the Filinvest is eyeing a portion of what is now the Inayawan sanitary landfill as site for the new project.

FLI Director Andrew Gotianun Jr. disclosed that it submitted an unsolicited proposal to Mayor Michael Rama for a contractual or unincorporated joint venture project.

The City is spending close to P70 million a year for solid waste management, including the operation of garbage trucks and the maintenance of the landfill. The land-fill, designed and built by Japanese experts, was initially designed to last for 15 years or until 2003.

Gotianun said that the modern waste management technology that they will implement is being used widely in Germany, China and other countries.

With the initial capacity of at least 500 tons of waste per day, the plant will generate 20 MW of power. The 90 percent of the generated energy will be used by desalina-tion plant to convert seawater into fresh water through the reverse osmosis process to address Cebu City's water needs.

The total land requirement of their proposed project is five to 10 hectares. This will include the required buffer zone between the plant and residential areas. The sani-tary landfill has 17 hectares of land area.

The project, according to Gotianun, will utilize the most advanced boiler system, which is known as Fluidized Bed Boiler or Clean Coal Technology.

The technology has been approved by the Department of Environment and Natural Resources and is now being used in Toledo City, Gotianun said.

"We assure you that the project shall be made to conform to the most stringent environmental standards imposed by existing laws and regulations of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources," the proposal read.

Under the unsolicited proposal, the City Government and the Filinvest will undertake the project that will contribute a 25-year leasehold right, renewable for an addi-tional 20 years over a portion of the landfill site.

The project cost is estimated to reach US$30 million or between P1.3 billion to P1.4 billion.

The 35 percent will be financed by Filinvest and the City while the remaining 65 percent, by external borrowings.

Under the proposal, the term of the project is 25 years, renewable for another 20 years. At the end of the project term, it will be transferred to the city government.

Filinvest Land is one of the country's leading property developers with a diverse portfolio of real estate projects. The company has developed more than 2,000 hectares of land and created over 600,000 sq. m. of prime office, residential and retail spaces over the past four decades. (FREEMAN)