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Daizuke
February 7th, 2011, 04:30 PM
Maybe he believes Cebu City is the prime authority in Cebu, that it's dominance should not be downplayed by MCDA, that Cebu City has long been the main driver of all the Cities and towns of Metro Cebu. Also, that Cebu's autonomy will be sacrificed if a single traffic management authority is made for the entire Metro.

Nevertheless, I do believe some of the points he emphasized but we all have more better ideas to share. :)


Remember that the proposed MCDA is not just a traffic management authority. But the question is who will lead the agency? So it all goes down again to dirty politics and Im sure those dirty politicians (such as the Garcias) will use their influence to get a big chunk of power. :ohno::ohno:

^^ Wla jud kau laban si Tomas ky kana iyang mga kontra mostly gpadagan ana nila ky kwarta. Mostly mga corrupt rapud.. Labi ng Gullas, mka suka jud ng tawhana na. pweh! Masking sa iyang hometown wla jud ntawn xa kaatiman. Nag maau lng na iyang mansion.. Naa pay mga Garcia na really trying to penetrate their influence sa syudad!

No problem iF ever man gane matuman kanang MCDA pero dpat walay control ang mga tga probinsya ky total ang Cebu City man jud ang main capital city.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 7th, 2011, 04:34 PM
kung ako lang, if ever MCDA would be formally established, those towns and cities identified as Metro Cebu should now be separated from the province para wala nay labot ang probinsya og para makatulog na magayo si tomas. :okay::D

AmbutLang
February 7th, 2011, 04:36 PM
kung maghimo sila MCDA ang kadaghanun sa mga member will be base on the income of the city, area and population. No active voted politician will seat as members of the board. All will be appointed from their respective LGUs. Example no congressman/woman, governor, mayors, vice mayors or councilors will ever seat as board member of MCDA. So that these members will only be dedicated and concentrated in doing the job. They have to be qualified and familiar to the job not those sipsip.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 7th, 2011, 04:42 PM
^^ hahaha... uy daghan gyud mu-ulbo ang kaspa sir @fred kung mao na! :lol::lol::lol:

leylander
February 7th, 2011, 04:45 PM
Naa puy punto si Tomas. Perting hago sa mga lider sa pag-porma sa Siyudad sa Sugbu para maabot niini ang current economic standing. Unya naa nay mutake-over nga body to control it? What if ang maka-daug head sa other member city nga way gyuy natabang aron sa paglambo sa iyang siyudad? Damay ang Cebu city? Ang gilauman nga pagpadayon sa Cebooom, maputol ug mahino na lamang nga Ceboooo? Dapat tun-an na nila pag-ayo ang pagtukod sa maong body.

gud2ya
February 7th, 2011, 05:03 PM
can't a mayor think, decide, and act on what is good for his city/municipality. manginahanglan pa ba jud cya og tabang gikan sa taga ubang syudad?

if he's not capable of handling his city, then he does not deserve to be the mayor.

jameslab8470
February 7th, 2011, 05:11 PM
OT lang.. Dancing inmates in the philippines was mentioned in the latest glee episode.. [s02ep11].. Pero wala lang gi mention nga sa cebu gikan

ceboom
February 7th, 2011, 05:18 PM
Naa puy punto si Tomas. Perting hago sa mga lider sa pag-porma sa Siyudad sa Sugbu para maabot niini ang current economic standing. Unya naa nay mutake-over nga body to control it? What if ang maka-daug head sa other member city nga way gyuy natabang aron sa paglambo sa iyang siyudad? Damay ang Cebu city? Ang gilauman nga pagpadayon sa Cebooom, maputol ug mahino na lamang nga Ceboooo? Dapat tun-an na nila pag-ayo ang pagtukod sa maong body.

I agree with tomas just like karon sa issue sa MCWD na gusto kuhaon ni gwen ang authority na mas daghan man consumer sa Cebu City than any other places sa Metro Cebu. Dili pod ko gusto maputol akong name na Ceboom. :lol:

leylander
February 7th, 2011, 05:22 PM
I agree with tomas just like karon sa issue sa MCWD na gusto kuhaon ni gwen ang authority na mas daghan man consumer sa Cebu City than any other places sa Metro Cebu. Dili pod ko gusto maputol akong name na Ceboom. :lol:

mao ni pinaka importante nga rason sir. hehehe :lol:

Henz
February 7th, 2011, 05:25 PM
Pero the way i understand.. dili man jud tanan ang under sa MCDA.. Naa lay aspect like, traffic, waste management, infrastructure such as road, bridges etc...

the respective cities continues to operate independently while all mayors act as members of the voting council... so they have powers over the affairs of the proposed MCDA...

So i dont think there is a power over the others. I believe if Cebu City insists on having control of the proposed body, no wonder it will not reach its first base in congress.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 7th, 2011, 05:28 PM
^^
tinuod! ang uwahing bahakhak naa sa Dakbayan sa Sugbo! :D:lol:

ceboom
February 7th, 2011, 05:32 PM
Pero the way i understand.. dili man jud tanan ang under sa MCDA.. Naa lay aspect like, traffic, waste management, infrastructure such as road, bridges etc...

the respective cities continues to operate independently while all mayors act as members of the voting council... so they have powers over the affairs of the proposed MCDA...

So i dont think there is a power over the others. I believe if Cebu City insists on having control of the proposed body, no wonder it will not reach its first base in congress.

Para nako unnecessary kaayo considering sa political system nato karon. Merely duplication sa authority siguro kung ang Mayor sa usa ka city or town mo focus sa ilahang gibuhat sa mga problema like drainage, traffic, waste management og uban pa siguro masulbad na.:)

2hrd4u
February 7th, 2011, 05:35 PM
..

SineBuano
February 7th, 2011, 05:54 PM
Coordination ra unta ang tubag ani sa mga syudad nga gisakupan. Creation of an authority will just create another underlying bureaucracy and red tape.

diehardbisdak
February 7th, 2011, 06:20 PM
by the way, sa kadto ganahan lang mo tan-aw ug mobasa:

the Cebu Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system is already in Wikipedia ... :)

Cebu Bus Rapid Transit System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cebu_Bus_Rapid_Transit_System)

...sir, i-click ang option to watch out for any changes sa page, basin na-a unya'y mag-edit ana sir og osbon ang details... :okay:

bakasaurus
February 7th, 2011, 06:34 PM
naaah, if it were up to me, we dissolve the existing cities and then fully integrate them into one mega city, with only 1 mayor! That way walay daghan sweldohanan, walay daghan mangurakot..government will be streamlined and cohesive with one vision. Each city will be designated as wards.

diehardbisdak
February 7th, 2011, 06:38 PM
nahimuot kaayo ko ani nga statement from Cardinal Ricardo Vidal:


******


Please, Brother Soc, discipline your son, says Cardinal Vidal
Sunstar Online
8 February 2011

TALISAY City Mayor Socrates Fernandez “has helped us very much in explaining the doctrine of the church.”

“I am just wondering why it takes him some difficulty to apply to his own son what he has been saying to others,” Cebu Archbishop Emeritus Ricardo Cardinal Vidal said yesterday, when asked about the latest incident involving the mayor’s son.


more: http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/please-brother-soc-discipline-your-son-says-cardinal-vidal

:D

AmbutLang
February 7th, 2011, 07:32 PM
Laktud pagka sulti, naka panglimpyo siya sa palibut, pero wala sa iyang tugkaran. or similar saying "idioms". :ohno:

MatudNilaBaby
February 7th, 2011, 11:02 PM
nahimuot kaayo ko ani nga statement from Cardinal Ricardo Vidal:


******


Please, Brother Soc, discipline your son, says Cardinal Vidal
Sunstar Online
8 February 2011

TALISAY City Mayor Socrates Fernandez “has helped us very much in explaining the doctrine of the church.”

“I am just wondering why it takes him some difficulty to apply to his own son what he has been saying to others,” Cebu Archbishop Emeritus Ricardo Cardinal Vidal said yesterday, when asked about the latest incident involving the mayor’s son.


more: http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/please-brother-soc-discipline-your-son-says-cardinal-vidal

:D

if joavan is still a minor or under age, his father is responsible for his actions. but thats not the case any more. joavan should be responsible for his own actions. biay2x naman na kang kardinal sa amahan. ang balaod na unta ang bahala niya kon dili siya patou sa tambag sa iyang familia.

maayomo
February 7th, 2011, 11:13 PM
I don’t want an authority higher than Cebu City: Tomas
Monday, February 7, 2011

WHILE majority of Cebu legislators support the move of re-filing the bill to create the Metro Cebu Development Authority (MCDA), Rep. Tomas Osmeña (Cebu City, south district) is against it.

Osmeña said the proposed MCDA is unnecessary. He said he doesn’t want an authority higher than Cebu City.


Coordinated drainage master plan, urban planning, solid waste management and traffic system are among the concerns of MCDA if enacted into law.

MCDA will provide services that will cover areas from Danao City in the north to Carcar City in the south.

But Osmeña said Cebu City’s drainage problem has nothing to do with Danao City, and it doesn’t need the approval of other towns to implement a program.

He said the Local Government Code already provides that two government units can engage in a joint undertaking.

He said Cebu City can undergo a joint undertaking in addressing the problem along Mahiga Creek and with Talisay City in taking care of the Bulacao River.

Osmeña said Cebu City has long been doing the functions of MCDA in times of emergencies or calamities.

“Cebu City’s fire trucks will go to Talisay, Mandaue and anywhere else when there’s a fire. Do we need an MCDA for that? ERUF (Emergency and Rescue Unit Foundation) is funded by the City, but when an accident occurs in Mactan Bridge, they will go there.

Do we need an MCDA for that? Then, we want BRT and they want LRT. Then there will be voting. Pildi gyud ta kay (We will lose because) Gullas is in control of the mayors in the first district. Why are we going to sacrifice that?” Osmeña asked.

“Don’t forget Talisay wants to take over 100 hectares in the SRP. Don’t forget that the Garcias want to take over Fuente Osmeña and change it to Fuente something else!

Hesus, Maria. MCDA? What for?” Osmeña said.

Osmeña said Cebu City’s autonomy will suffer in the presence of MCDA.

Osmeña said his job is to protect the interest of the City and he will oppose the proposal once it will be re-filed in the House of Representatives.

Congressmen in Cebu who earlier expressed their support for the creation of MCDA include Eduardo Gullas (1st district), Pablo Garcia (2nd district), Benhur Salimbangon (4th district) and Luigi Quisumbing (6th district).

Rep. Rachel Marguerite “Cutie” del Mar said she will support it if the proposal will get the support of all mayors and congressmen in Metro Cebu.

“Without that unanimous support and cooperation, the authority can never accomplish its objectives,” del Mar said.

Former congressman Raul del Mar (Cutie’s father) filed the same bill twice in the 8th and 9th Congress, but due to the lack of support from Cebu legislators, the bill was rejected twice in a row.

Quisumbing yesterday said that although he sees the need for better coordination between local government units (LGUs) in Metro Cebu, he will study any bill that will be filed in Congress creating MCDA.

Quisumbing was reacting to the statement of del Mar that she will file a bill creating the MCDA and she hopes her fellow lawmakers will support her move.

Quisumbing believes there are concerns in Metro Cebu that need collective decisions leaders of various cities and municipalities.

These include drainage system, mass transport system, environmental protection, solid waste disposal and water supply, he said.

He said if MCDA will be created, provisions that overlap with the functions of LGUs, or will remove LGU autonomy, must be avoided.

Published in the Sun.Star Cebu newspaper on February 07, 2011.

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Tomas comes again! tenteneneng! :lol::lol::lol:

I've met this person personally and I think these reactions of him were based on his principles. I could remember when he once said during the seminar, "In the previous election, I was first and Garcia was second, even if Garcia is second, is he the winner?". "never aim for second place, it's useless if you're just second because you are never the best." Maybe he believes Cebu City is the prime authority in Cebu, that it's dominance should not be downplayed by MCDA, that Cebu City has long been the main driver of all the Cities and towns of Metro Cebu. Also, that Cebu's autonomy will be sacrificed if a single traffic management authority is made for the entire Metro.

Nevertheless, I do believe some of the points he emphasized but we all have more better ideas to share. :)


Hmmmmmm... I think, if we take everything into context, and not only read the headline (which is of course made by a journalist who wants the story to sell), that what Tomas means is HE DOESN'T WANT ANY OTHER AUTHORITY FOR CEBU CITY OTHER THAN CEBU CITY ITSELF. That Cebu can cooperate with other cities or form joint projects with them, but that it should not be dictated by another leader who's mandate in the first place does not cover Cebu City. :)

sternocleidomastoid
February 8th, 2011, 01:03 AM
Lingo24 to invest $1M in PHL (http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/regions/7130-lingo24-to-invest-1m-in-phl)
MONDAY, 07 FEBRUARY 2011 19:35 ANJO C. ALIMARIO / RESEARCHER-WRITER

U.K.-BASED Lingo24, an online translation-services provider, will invest more than $1 million in the Philippines for its Asia-Pacific headquarters to be based in Cebu, according to a top official of the company.

Christian Arno, Lingo24 managing director, said in a phone interview last week that the company’s move to enter the Asia-Pacific region will create 100 jobs, tapping local talent, over its two-year operation.

Because the country has a “striving business-process outsourcing [BPO] industry,” Arno said, that Filipinos are known to be skilled people with excellent customer-service ethics.
Asked why the Philippines was chosen over India, its main rival in the BPO sector, Arno said the time zone plays a crucial role for the company. It has chosen the Philippines which is nearer its potential customer companies in the region. Another factor is the Filipino’s language skill which, according to Arno, can be sourced out in the country, particularly in Cebu, with people who are multilingual. The company is in its final stages of setting up its office in Cebu and is in the process of interviewing potential candidates who will serve as its initial work force for its first few months of operation.

As for the next six months, the company’s sales team will start tapping its first 100 companies in Asia, “mostly multinational companies,” Arno said, emphasizing that the company has worked with banks, and travel and tourism and marketing companies, among others.

Using the performance in the country as its springboard, Lingo24 will eventually put up satellite offices in key cities such as Hong Kong, Tokyo, Seoul and Taipei.

The 10-year-old company currently has 150 employees with a worldwide body of 5,000 translators. Its clients include BP, Burger King, Nissan, Honda, the Royal Bank of Scotland, the BBC, T-Mobile and MTV, among others.

Jarenz
February 8th, 2011, 01:44 AM
original rendering of JSU-PSU

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/djxd2/proposal%20and%20rendering/jsu-psu.jpg

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 8th, 2011, 02:03 AM
^:rock::rock::rock:

paytera sa original plan uy! :okay:

zubuwood
February 8th, 2011, 03:04 AM
original rendering of JSU-PSU

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/djxd2/proposal%20and%20rendering/jsu-psu.jpg

^^Murah man pud og baratohon na version sa Sands Singapore :cheers:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 8th, 2011, 03:10 AM
^^
:hilarious:rofl::D

ataya nimo bai uy! mao gyud! :lol::lol::lol:

MatudNilaBaby
February 8th, 2011, 03:57 AM
^^Murah man pud og baratohon na version sa Sands Singapore :cheers:

claro kaayo na nakakuha ug idea but its done in poor taste. diba ang alu building resembles a ship pud?

rustyboi
February 8th, 2011, 04:27 AM
Filipino furniture designer a Hollywood hit
By Jason Gutierrez (AFP) – 22 hours ago

CEBU, Philippines — His designs may be in Hollywood but his heart is at home: renowned Filipino furniture designer Kenneth Cobonpue says he still gets his inspiration from the sun-baked shores of Cebu.
The multi-award-winner is regarded by international design magazines as one of the poster boys of Asia's chic furniture design industry and his unique works have penetrated the luxury market around the world.
They can be found on movie sets, in the home of US movie star Brad Pitt -- who bought a Cobonpue bed -- and in leading hotels, establishments and resorts in Paris, London and the Caribbean.
Yet for all his success, the 40-year-old father-of-two remains firmly grounded to his roots.
He says his creative ideas come from nature and locally-sourced materials in Cebu, an island province in the central Philippines, famous for its colourful festivals and sweet mangos.

Kenneth Coponpue's Voyage Bed is featured in Maroon 5's newest music video: "Never Gonna Leave This Bed"

http://cdn.idolator.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Picture-12.jpg
http://justjared.buzznet.com/2011/02/04/maroon-5-never-gonna-leave-this-bed-video-premiere/

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 8th, 2011, 06:02 AM
^^ literally speaking! :okay:

diehardbisdak
February 8th, 2011, 07:10 AM
^^ talking about Cebu's Pride - Mr. Kenneth Cobonpue...here are some of his works:



the furniture set used in OCEAN 13 the movie
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1287/542441490_9046893530.jpg




the bed which Brad Pitt bought
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/51/169594737_28a2749f6a.jpg


pics from daphneosena.livejournal.com

:D

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 8th, 2011, 07:12 AM
^^
tropical kaayo ang mga designs. angayan kaayo dadon sa beach. :okay:

diehardbisdak
February 8th, 2011, 07:24 AM
^^ by the way, here's the photo of the article when he was featured in TIME Magazine :rock:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/53/193314303_8a671cfebb.jpg
pic from daphneosena.livejournal.com

:D

DaVz
February 8th, 2011, 07:30 AM
last month gi exhibit sa SM Northwing iyang mga furniture designs..

Hiroshima
February 8th, 2011, 08:04 AM
last month gi exhibit sa SM Northwing iyang mga furniture designs..

Murag dili man to Kenneth Cobonpue... I remember kahoy man to na furniture...center table...na murag wave2 ang design...dili cobonpue na style w/c is mga rattan.

correct me if i'm wrong..basin naa diay lain na cobonpue.

Cobonpue was interview by Karen Davila last month on ANC.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 8th, 2011, 08:50 AM
^^
murag wala naman maggamit og rattan si kenneth. mga synthetic materials na iyang gipanggamit. :)

Daizuke
February 8th, 2011, 09:36 AM
^^ Gamit hapun xa though lately iya gamit ky mostly plastic and metals for his outdoor collection

bakasaurus
February 8th, 2011, 09:39 AM
^^
murag wala naman maggamit og rattan si kenneth. mga synthetic materials na iyang gipanggamit. :)

Actually both bai..

diehardbisdak
February 8th, 2011, 09:41 AM
^^
murag wala naman maggamit og rattan si kenneth. mga synthetic materials na iyang gipanggamit. :)

it does not look like the bulky rattan because it is made into strips :okay: or, naa sab some materials from abaca..

Jarenz
February 8th, 2011, 11:05 AM
SSC CEBU EVENT (Tower Power Race)

details here > > LINK (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=72227151#post72227151) < <

kindofperfect82888
February 8th, 2011, 12:07 PM
Murag dili man to Kenneth Cobonpue... I remember kahoy man to na furniture...center table...na murag wave2 ang design...dili cobonpue na style w/c is mga rattan.

correct me if i'm wrong..basin naa diay lain na cobonpue.

Cobonpue was interview by Karen Davila last month on ANC.

sakto ka bay.. di to ka cobonpue, lahi to na artist.. ang kang cobonpue kay dugay to nga gidisplay sa SM, last year siguro kato flower na chair.. i frequent SM man gud, especially sa Northwing.. lami gani kaayo tong mga festival queen last sinulog.. lol :lol:

LordCarnal
February 8th, 2011, 12:20 PM
Cebu City would not be what it is right now without Mandaue, Lapu-Lapu and even Talisay City, vice-versa. We can debate countlessly with this whether you are pro-Gwen or diehard-Tomas but that's a fact.

Hambogero ra kaayo ni si Tomas to think nga siya ra jud ang hawod ug siya ra ang nakapalambo sa Cebu.


...

zidlakan
February 8th, 2011, 12:34 PM
Cebu City would not be what it is right now without Mandaue, Lapu-Lapu and even Talisay City, vice-versa. We can debate countlessly with this whether you are pro-Gwen or diehard-Tomas but that's a fact.

Hambogero ra kaayo ni si Tomas to think nga siya ra jud ang hawod ug siya ra ang nakapalambo sa Cebu. ...

i have read and reread the news article as well as the succeeding discussion
regarding it but nowhere did i find that Tomas thought "nga siya ra jud
ang hawod ug siya ra ang nakapalambo sa Cebu." now where did that come
from? in fact, i didn't join the fray because you'd all say i'm biased anyway,
but more importantly, the forummers were very objective in discussing just
whether the statement made had merit or not - some said he has a point,
others say its politically motivated. bisan unsa pa'g bali-bali sa report, all
that tomas was asserting was, "he doesn't want an authority higher than
cebu city." not that cebu city is higher than the others, but by quoting the
local government code, that all LGUs ARE EQUAL and should not have an
authority over them!

i hope we can all go back to being objective and discuss the merits of things
without resorting to name-calling.

Zuburbia
February 8th, 2011, 01:14 PM
update lang pud ko gamay.

LED street lights kay giwork na pud sa n.bacalso avenue. ang 3 ka lamp post in front sa CIT-U kay nakaLED sidelights na.

naka-agi ko ron sa jones..ataka nindota diay anang LED lights oi, perting hayaga!
problema nako anang among sakyanan kay gipadark pag-ayo og tint sa akong maguwang apil ang windshield, maong di kayo maklaro inig gabi-i, na-amaze ko kay perti mang hayaga ganiha pag-agi nko sa jones!!! Wow! Kana maoy Gobyerno! buhat dayon walay daghan cho cho! :lol::lol::banana::banana::banana:

Zuburbia
February 8th, 2011, 01:19 PM
I don’t want an authority higher than Cebu City: Tomas
Monday, February 7, 2011

WHILE majority of Cebu legislators support the move of re-filing the bill to create the Metro Cebu Development Authority (MCDA), Rep. Tomas Osmeña (Cebu City, south district) is against it.

Osmeña said the proposed MCDA is unnecessary. He said he doesn’t want an authority higher than Cebu City.


Coordinated drainage master plan, urban planning, solid waste management and traffic system are among the concerns of MCDA if enacted into law.

MCDA will provide services that will cover areas from Danao City in the north to Carcar City in the south.

But Osmeña said Cebu City’s drainage problem has nothing to do with Danao City, and it doesn’t need the approval of other towns to implement a program.

He said the Local Government Code already provides that two government units can engage in a joint undertaking.

He said Cebu City can undergo a joint undertaking in addressing the problem along Mahiga Creek and with Talisay City in taking care of the Bulacao River.

Osmeña said Cebu City has long been doing the functions of MCDA in times of emergencies or calamities.

“Cebu City’s fire trucks will go to Talisay, Mandaue and anywhere else when there’s a fire. Do we need an MCDA for that? ERUF (Emergency and Rescue Unit Foundation) is funded by the City, but when an accident occurs in Mactan Bridge, they will go there.

Do we need an MCDA for that? Then, we want BRT and they want LRT. Then there will be voting. Pildi gyud ta kay (We will lose because) Gullas is in control of the mayors in the first district. Why are we going to sacrifice that?” Osmeña asked.

“Don’t forget Talisay wants to take over 100 hectares in the SRP. Don’t forget that the Garcias want to take over Fuente Osmeña and change it to Fuente something else!

Hesus, Maria. MCDA? What for?” Osmeña said.

Osmeña said Cebu City’s autonomy will suffer in the presence of MCDA.

Osmeña said his job is to protect the interest of the City and he will oppose the proposal once it will be re-filed in the House of Representatives.

Congressmen in Cebu who earlier expressed their support for the creation of MCDA include Eduardo Gullas (1st district), Pablo Garcia (2nd district), Benhur Salimbangon (4th district) and Luigi Quisumbing (6th district).

Rep. Rachel Marguerite “Cutie” del Mar said she will support it if the proposal will get the support of all mayors and congressmen in Metro Cebu.

“Without that unanimous support and cooperation, the authority can never accomplish its objectives,” del Mar said.

Former congressman Raul del Mar (Cutie’s father) filed the same bill twice in the 8th and 9th Congress, but due to the lack of support from Cebu legislators, the bill was rejected twice in a row.

Quisumbing yesterday said that although he sees the need for better coordination between local government units (LGUs) in Metro Cebu, he will study any bill that will be filed in Congress creating MCDA.

Quisumbing was reacting to the statement of del Mar that she will file a bill creating the MCDA and she hopes her fellow lawmakers will support her move.

Quisumbing believes there are concerns in Metro Cebu that need collective decisions leaders of various cities and municipalities.

These include drainage system, mass transport system, environmental protection, solid waste disposal and water supply, he said.

He said if MCDA will be created, provisions that overlap with the functions of LGUs, or will remove LGU autonomy, must be avoided.

Published in the Sun.Star Cebu newspaper on February 07, 2011.

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Tomas comes again! tenteneneng! :lol::lol::lol:

I've met this person personally and I think these reactions of him were based on his principles. I could remember when he once said during the seminar, "In the previous election, I was first and Garcia was second, even if Garcia is second, is he the winner?". "never aim for second place, it's useless if you're just second because you are never the best." Maybe he believes Cebu City is the prime authority in Cebu, that it's dominance should not be downplayed by MCDA, that Cebu City has long been the main driver of all the Cities and towns of Metro Cebu. Also, that Cebu's autonomy will be sacrificed if a single traffic management authority is made for the entire Metro.

Nevertheless, I do believe some of the points he emphasized but we all have more better ideas to share. :)

:ohno:
di gusto pahilabot si tomas! oki ra tingali og siya maoy himoong head anang gipropose nga MCDA.. :nuts:

Zuburbia
February 8th, 2011, 01:24 PM
Maayo sa Cebu adunay sidewalk sa ciudad. Hopefully sa ka Barangayan maghinayhinay pud paghimo mga sidewalk ug dili himuon parkinganan ug extension sa tindahan. Pero dri sa akong ciudad gi puy-an Durham,NC, karon pa nag emplimentar sa tanan property owner kilid sa major roadway magbutang na sila sugod mga sidewalk. Hapit kada buwan adunay aksidenti tungud walay sidewalk ug mga pedestrian crossing. :ohno:

mao jud na akong damgo @sir Ambutlang sa Cebu..nga ang tanang mga baranggay adunay tarong sidewalk, miski mga 1.5-2 meters minimum lang sa mga interior/minor roads, nga wala juy obstruction...mao jud nay usa sa makapa super kahappy nako kung mahitabo na!!! hehe

Parchie
February 8th, 2011, 01:29 PM
mao jud na akong damgo @sir Ambutlang sa Cebu..nga ang tanang mga baranggay adunay tarong sidewalk, miski mga 1.5-2 meters minimum lang sa mga interior/minor roads, nga wala juy obstruction...mao jud nay usa sa makapa super kahappy nako kung mahitabo na!!! hehe

Maayo unta ug pwede, "unta" na lang! Ug dunay gamay nga easement, ilugon man dayon sa mga IS, buhatan dayon ug gamay'ng tindahan ug gamay nga lantay!

Zuburbia
February 8th, 2011, 01:31 PM
kung maghimo sila MCDA ang kadaghanun sa mga member will be base on the income of the city, area and population. No active voted politician will seat as members of the board. All will be appointed from their respective LGUs. Example no congressman/woman, governor, mayors, vice mayors or councilors will ever seat as board member of MCDA. So that these members will only be dedicated and concentrated in doing the job. They have to be qualified and familiar to the job not those sipsip.

Uyon ko ani!:cheers:

Zuburbia
February 8th, 2011, 01:34 PM
OT lang.. Dancing inmates in the philippines was mentioned in the latest glee episode.. [s02ep11].. Pero wala lang gi mention nga sa cebu gikan

sayang oi, mas nindot og cebu unta to ang ginganlan dili Philippines..ahehe!! .oi motan-aw diay ka ana bai jameslab? hehe

Zuburbia
February 8th, 2011, 01:46 PM
Pero the way i understand.. dili man jud tanan ang under sa MCDA.. Naa lay aspect like, traffic, waste management, infrastructure such as road, bridges etc...

the respective cities continues to operate independently while all mayors act as members of the voting council... so they have powers over the affairs of the proposed MCDA...

So i dont think there is a power over the others. I believe if Cebu City insists on having control of the proposed body, no wonder it will not reach its first base in congress.

sayang gyud og di madayon, this is really a good idea for a growing metropolis... so that the development would be seamless and well-coordinated in the whole of the metro! miski unsaon pag paglambo sa syudad sa sugbo or mandaue ba kaha, nya wa magka-uyon sa traffic and infras, affected japon jud ang operation sa tagsa tagsa ka syudad...angay jud nga dunay one body nga magmanage and plan sa traffic, major infrastructure, and proper garbage/waste disposal.... mas nindot pod gani og mausa ang urban planning sa metro Cebu, labi nas zoning and land use... ambot lang og sakto ba ko! ahehe! naa juy advantage and disadvantage ani..pero sa tan-aw nako mas dako ang advantage...:):cheers:

Zuburbia
February 8th, 2011, 01:55 PM
naaah, if it were up to me, we dissolve the existing cities and then fully integrate them into one mega city, with only 1 mayor! That way walay daghan sweldohanan, walay daghan mangurakot..government will be streamlined and cohesive with one vision. Each city will be designated as wards.

Wow tumpak! mao jud ni akong Gusto! mas daghan leader mas dugay mapatuman ang angay nga mga kausaban, kay daghan man mobabag babag! sa akong tan-aw diri raman tingali na nauso sa ato ang metro2x, nga perti mobuak buak..mas maayo og usahon nalang jud ka syudad!! iyahay og angkon ni atong mga pulitiko og ilang teritoryo, maong ganahan kayo maseparate!! miski sa kagamay sa isla sa sugbo, ganahan pa jud gani nang uban magpalahi sila nga probinsya, sama aning mactan!!!! iya iya aho aho man gud ning pinoy! hehe!

maayomo
February 8th, 2011, 02:52 PM
i have read and reread the news article as well as the succeeding discussion
regarding it but nowhere did i find that Tomas thought "nga siya ra jud
ang hawod ug siya ra ang nakapalambo sa Cebu." now where did that come
from? in fact, i didn't join the fray because you'd all say i'm biased anyway,
but more importantly, the forummers were very objective in discussing just
whether the statement made had merit or not - some said he has a point,
others say its politically motivated. bisan unsa pa'g bali-bali sa report, all
that tomas was asserting was, "he doesn't want an authority higher than
cebu city." not that cebu city is higher than the others, but by quoting the
local government code, that all LGUs ARE EQUAL and should not have an
authority over them!

i hope we can all go back to being objective and discuss the merits of things
without resorting to name-calling.


Sir, ingun ana ka-powerful ang "headline." Naay primacy effect. Sometimes, even though I'm not a big fan of PJ Garcia's Onion-Skinned site, I can't help but agree with him on issues of press freedom and press responsibility. :)

zidlakan
February 8th, 2011, 03:12 PM
naaah, if it were up to me, we dissolve the existing cities and then fully integrate them into one mega city, with only 1 mayor! That way walay daghan sweldohanan, walay daghan mangurakot..government will be streamlined and cohesive with one vision. Each city will be designated as wards.

the problem is, we talk about an idea, and talk only about that idea as if its
a matter of yes or no, agree or disagree, black or white, 1 or 0, deal or no
deal, ... and nothing else matters.

as far as i am concerned, you are absolutely right! that would be the ulti-
mate solution. that is my personal and professional opinion, and this is
contrary to the position of tomas. incidentally, it does not conform to the
opinion of the others also, since they want MCDC.

when we start examining the details of what it takes to aggregate urban
management, we will find out, its not really a take it or leave it affair. its
a wide spectrum of choices, ranging from the very loose to the very tight,
from the existing status quo of separate independent LGUs to an extreme
position of dissolving the LGUs and consolidating them into one cohesive
unit - still an LGU since this is a sub-national unit. but there are varying
options in between.

i have made a rather important studies on this matter in 1995. the report
is called Metropolitan Planning: the Cebu Jigsaw Puzzle. It was financed
and published by Barefoot Media Institute (BMI) and saw print in Sun*Star
on September 18, 1995. that was my first written public article and Sun-
Star editor checking seares liked it that he convinced me to start writing a
column for Sun*Star. that was the start of my short-lived journalistic
career w/c ended in 2001 when i joined Cebu City Government.

sadly i don't have a copy of that study now, a pity, and something i regret.
but i know there is a last copy in the USC-Talamban library, and one of this
days i'll try to secure a copy. for those of you who has access and if you
pass by there, you can photocopy a copy also. it is interesting to note
what the problems were in 1995 (15 years ago) and compare them with
those of today. its maybe interesting also if you can read what i have writ-
ten regarding the issue that only today, the politicians have started to
argue. read it if you have the opportunity and i hope you may have better
understanding of the nuances of this "MCDA" proposal, its advantages and
disadvantages, and not just whether its good or bad. mind you, it has
good and bad aspects and we need to compare them with the good and
bad aspects of the other options and alternatives, including that which is
postulated by @bakasaurus.

if you ask me, i would choose this option. most of the major cities in the
world took this option. new york, tokyo, bangkok, etc. - all were composed
of smaller cities which consolidated into one metropolitan city. that's why
you have a tokyo metropolitan government led by a governor. that's why
you have a governor of the bangkok metropolitan area. check the city of
bogota in columbia --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogot%C3%A1 ...
it says in its wikipedia page:

In 1956 the municipality was joined to other neighboring municipalities forming a "Special District" (Spanish: Distrito Especial). The Constitution of 1991 confirmed Bogotá as the Capital of Colombia, gave it the name "Santafé de Bogotá", and changed the category from Special District to "Capital District" (Distrito Capital). In August 2000 the official name was changed back to simply "Bogotá".

thus, following that model, what @bakasaurus suggested is to consolidate
the cities (and some municipalities) of what we call now as metro cebu
into a single entity, ... which is entirely separate from the province, and
we can call it into a cebu metropolitan government. we will join the likes
of tokyo, bangkok, and even new york and the others.

unfortunately, i believe this is only a dream - it may happen but not within
our generation. maybe the next ... it's almost impossible, politically.

zidlakan
February 8th, 2011, 03:26 PM
^^

incidentally, we tend to forget that this is exactly what happened when cebu
city was formed in the last century! four LGUs, ... 4 municipalities, ... joined
together to form ONE city - the municipalities of pardo, san nicolas, cebu,
and mabolo. congress passed the consolidation charter.

in mindanao, 3 towns located in 1 small island were never heard of before.
if not for selfless sacrifice of forgetting local turf and joining together for the
good of all, they would have continued to be always that - unheard of in the
years to come. now who doesn't know them - the garden island city of
samal? yet, we don't remember the 3 municipalities.

you think MCDC will work? i doubt. almost 30 years ago, marcos created the
the series of metro manila bodies - different configurations, until present
day MMDA. and still they're fighting with the LGUs there. no i still prefer the
most drastic move - a separate entity ...

but i know its only in my dreams ...

zidlakan
February 8th, 2011, 03:37 PM
the problem with newspaper reports is that you can only print so much. and
a lot is not printed. tomas has a rather long explanation why he is not in
favor of MCDC, ever since his first terms in 1988-1995. most of you think its
political in terms of the present-day situation. it's political alright, but not
because of political inclinations but the basic political concepts of democracy,
local autonomy, and self-determination. if you try to study these, and most
especially if you are resident of cebu city, i am quite sure you'll agree.

there were 4 options/alternatives i proposed in 1995, two of which i prefer,
and two i discounted as difficult to sustain. one of the two i prefer is the
creation of a separate entity (province of metro body), and one of the two
i'm not inclined is this metro council which has a tendency of being divisive
in time (even if all agree at the start).

diehardbisdak
February 8th, 2011, 03:46 PM
...render of Robinsons Maxilom Mall:

http://www.asyadesign.com.ph/sites/default/files/Rob%20maxilom2.jpg


http://www.asyadesign.com.ph/sites/default/files/Rob%20maxilom3.jpg


http://www.asyadesign.com.ph/sites/default/files/Rob%20maxilom.jpg


Robinsons Maxilom
Cebu City

Robinsons Maxilom project in Cebu City, a mixed-use complex development consisting of a Residential Building, Two BPO Offices, JG Office Tower, JG Museum, Robinons Mall, Hotel and Convention Center that will introduce cebuanos to the world and the world to cebuanos.

The concept of the development was to reflect cebuanos pride as a city towards progress b adapting modern design that can be shown through the cleanliness and geometrical shapes of the structures Green architecture was establish in planning and orientation of the development to maximize the potential of the site towards its environment. Throughout the complex, large openings that create natural lightning and ventilation and open areas for greeneries are provided.

In every complex development, effective traffic flow is a challenge. To solve this, every structure was strategically oriented to the site based on the “Use-Relation” to minimize heavy traffic to every node in the complex. The “Use-Relation” was to connect correlated structures that will provide a shorter travel distance to the user.

Overall, Robinsons Maxilom stands uniquely with its excellent planning and design that features distinct character to every structure according to its use and yet creating a harmony that makes the complex architecturally successful.

source: http://www.asyadesign.com.ph/projects/malls/robinsons-maxilom

Zuburbia
February 8th, 2011, 03:49 PM
the problem with newspaper reports is that you can only print so much. and
a lot is not printed. tomas has a rather long explanation why he is not in
favor of MCDC, ever since his first terms in 1988-1995. most of you think its
political in terms of the present-day situation. it's political alright, but not
because of political inclinations but the basic political concepts of democracy,
local autonomy, and self-determination. if you try to study these, and most
especially if you are resident of cebu city, i am quite sure you'll agree.

there were 4 options/alternatives i proposed in 1995, two of which i prefer,
and two i discounted as difficult to sustain. one of the two i prefer is the
creation of a separate entity (province of metro body), and one of the two
i'm not inclined is this metro council which has a tendency of being divisive
in time (even if all agree at the start).

^^
very nice sir! so sad...sa ka selfish sa kasagaran naa sa gobyerno, di jud na nila isurrender ilang teritoryu, ikamatay jud na nila... lisod pa jud sa pagkakaron na mahitabo, kay daghan jud sa congress ang magminatay ana! maybe in the future when the urgency really really calls for it, when there is nowhere to turn to but to the best solution...:)

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February 8th, 2011, 04:12 PM
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diehardbisdak
February 8th, 2011, 04:46 PM
^^ :okay:

bakasaurus
February 8th, 2011, 04:48 PM
^^
very nice sir! so sad...sa ka selfish sa kasagaran naa sa gobyerno, di jud na nila isurrender ilang teritoryu, ikamatay jud na nila... lisod pa jud sa pagkakaron na mahitabo, kay daghan jud sa congress ang magminatay ana! maybe in the future when the urgency really really calls for it, when there is nowhere to turn to but to the best solution...:)

The future is now bai Zubby! Haha.
3 na ta with the same position, unya na bolster ang atoang credibility sa professional opinion ni Sir Zid. Haha.

But seriously, I have never really studied these matters to give a worthy professional opinion but I look at it based on how natural systems work, especially organisms. To cut through the pseudo-intellectual explanation, successful kaayo nga natural design ang cephalization - the development of organs in the body to specialize in decision-making processes that affects the whole body. Usa ra ang utok. This seems to be the winning scheme after millions of years of evolution.

Cities are similar in that aspect, and most political structures. If common ang stimulus and set of problems affecting the whole metro, then magkaguliyang gyud ta og inefficient kaayo kung daghan kaayo og utok, daghan ang magbuot. We will end up having reflexive reactions. Kung makasugat kag irong buang, unsaon na lang kung magiya-iya ang imong kamot, and duha ka tiil, ang imong mata? Ang resulta mapaakan gyud imong lobot.

But what about this MCDC?
The goals are very lofty and ideal and I strongly agree with them, that we need coordinated planning for the metro.

Ang problema ani kay band-aid ra gihapon kaayo ni siya. Naa ba gyud siyay political-legal mandate? Unsa man ang voting powers sa members when deciding? Asa man based? Sa GDP, sa population (daytime or nighttime?). Diha pa lang daan makit-an na ang iyang weakness.

IT WILL ONLY BE GOOD IN TIMES WHEN ALL ARE AGREEABLE to an issue or something that needs to be decided. BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE IS DISSENTING OPINION? Will it be majority vote? Consensus building?

We go back again to the question of who will have the final decision, the mayor or the MCDC? Kinsa man an naay katungod subay sa atong balaod?

Dili gyud ni muwork in the end in my opinion because this is very artificial and wala gyud ni siyay gahum. But, cities on the other hand have solid legal mandate to decide for themselves. That is why, the best thing to do is to follow what Tokyo, New York, Bangkok and other world cities who have been there and done that: to FULLY integrate Metro Cebu into one city!

We need not look very far to see what ails this type of set-up. Look at MMDA and the local LGUs! They have never really worked efficiently because of turf wars. It's confusing and inefficient!

@ Sir Zid: Am neither a politician nor a lawyer, but what are the steps to be taken if we go to the direction of a unified METROPOLITAN CITY OF CEBU?

kenken94
February 8th, 2011, 05:19 PM
^^ If in case Metro Cebu will be absorbed by Cebu City, then we will be much more bigger and bigger. With a population of 2 Million we are really gonna be a very big city!

Even and amalgamation of Cebu City, Mandaue and Lapu - Lapu City is enough to produce a more powerful megacity. :)

Henz
February 8th, 2011, 05:24 PM
Personally, i am into full integration of Metro Cebu into Cebu City on the same reasons..
But personally i believe it will not just be a tough act but it will possibly take a revolution to realize it..

kenken94
February 8th, 2011, 05:28 PM
^^ Imagine a City that has all aspects, financial, industrial, entertainment and even the leisure sectors in one big City. The Airport and the international port will all be in one City.

diehardbisdak
February 8th, 2011, 05:30 PM
Cebu City financially stable - COA
By Jessica Ann R. Pareja/BRP
PHILSTAR ONLINE (The Freeman)
February 09, 2011

more: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=655757&publicationSubCategoryId=107


:D

bakasaurus
February 8th, 2011, 05:33 PM
^^ If in case Metro Cebu will be absorbed by Cebu City, then we will be much more bigger and bigger. With a population of 2 Million we are really gonna be a very big city!

Even and amalgamation of Cebu City, Mandaue and Lapu - Lapu City is enough to produce a more powerful megacity. :)

2 million is a very good-sized city in global standards. Definititely not big, but also not too small.

Personally, i am into full integration of Metro Cebu into Cebu City on the same reasons..
But personally i believe it will not just be a tough act but it will possibly take a revolution to realize it..

Pwede pa lang magbuot-buot bai Henz sa?:lol:

diehardbisdak
February 8th, 2011, 05:51 PM
..na-unsa na ni?

***********

‘God saved Joavan'
SunStar Online
By Justin K. Vestil

more: http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/god-saved-joavan


:lol:

donut_bai
February 8th, 2011, 05:59 PM
^^

If a Cebuano in Manila or anywhere in PHL is asked where he is from, he would say Cebu regardless if he resides in Mandaue or Lapu2x or Talisay.
It is only fitting that we unify our city into one too. :cheers:

no.1ta
February 8th, 2011, 07:29 PM
^^if you're a Cebuano and somebody ask you where are ni PI? I answer first im from Cebu City in lapu2x...di ko moingon dayun ug taga Lapu2x ko.:)

EdithB
February 8th, 2011, 10:00 PM
I agree with most of you here that the best way to deal with the problems in Cebu is to create one city out of Lapulapu, Mandaue, Cebu and maybe even Talisay. The cities right now are growing really fast and are encountering big city problems. I don't know if any of these cities are capable and have the resources to tackle said problems on their own. Investments in a drainage and sewerage system for example require huge financial capital and resources that are easier to deal with if it is one metro. I'm totally amazed that Cebu was able to propose a BRT let alone have one in existence in the future (cross my fingers). I also agree that having one metro city will streamline the bureaucracy and eliminate a lot of the redundancies. I don't think it's gonna happen though. I doubt that the politicians will give up their turfs. Great discussion, guys.

habagatcentral1
February 8th, 2011, 10:14 PM
In case of MIGEDC in Iloilo, I don't see any conflict between the city mayor and the other mayors. They have to do it in anticipation of the growth of urban sprawl which knows no political or administrative borders. Hence, they have to coordinate some policies which would need cooperation or collaboration so that there would be synchronized. While Iloilo City maintains its charter from the province, the rest of MIGEDC are still within the jurisdiction of Iloilo and Guimaras provinces. In my opinion, we should have at least some clear goals on what we aim for in creation of a metropolitan development council.

I've seen this need in Cebu for years already...eversince 1990s. Mandaue, Lapu-Lapu, Talisay are peripheries that are affected by the city core (Cebu City). What happens in the core or anywhere else within the metropolitan area might affect the other in terms of policies and plans. What if ang 21-B kalit na lang i-ban sa Cebu City, bisag pasu'd sa Ayala di na pwede? How about inter-city issues such as informal settlement, flooding or sewerage system, traffic management, etc? And we have seen the urban area of Cebu ever moving forward towards Danao and Carcar, we should plan ahead or else suffer the same fate as Metro Manila and the Greater Metropolitan Manila Area.

:2cents:

SleMarKen
February 8th, 2011, 10:58 PM
Inyo lang gyung gi lisod lisod inyong kaugalingon. Bisag i-usa pa ang Metro Cebu o dili, bisag mag himo pag MCDA o dili, pareha ra gihapon na.

All I have observed that these problems came up because we're all too lousy...
Puro ra gyud ta sat sat, puro ra gyud ta sturya tanan mapaLGU officials, mapa forumer. Daghan kaayo tag gipang sulti pero ang action, 10% ra gyud sa gipang sulti ang mahitabo.

Niadtong wala ko diri sa Cebu, mag agad ra ko sa mga news articles og sa mga recent pics diri sa SSC, duha ka side ang nakita nako nga ni move forward (as per news releases diri sa forum both government and economic side) ang "economic activity" og atong "government activity"... Nindot kaayong paminawn kay nilambo ang duha ka sector. Cebu Business kay daghan kaayog bang ong projects and investments og ang atong LGU kay daghan kaayog proposal like katong beautiful body or katong beautification sa syudad og daghan pa kog nabasahan nga nindot nga nahitabo with regards sa actions sa atong LGU...

PERO:D

pag uli nako ang nakita ra nako nga ni materialize kay ang economic sector, tinuod gyud nga nilambo ang economic side sa Cebu but ang sa Government sector? Sadly, naka panaway gyud ko pag sakay nakog taxi from airport padong sa amo. Pasensya na nga nanaway ko pero mao man gud ilang gipasalig labi na sa mga news articles nga mao ni, mao na pero diay to sa reality halos wala koy nakita nga accomplishment.

So the problem is dili tungod kay dili na makaya kay di na maato maong kinahanglan na tag Authority, but because di na makaya kay wa man tay gibuhat...

Once and for all, di na nato makaya kay? Unsay tubag? Wa man ta'y gibuhat... PERYOD!

we just talk the walk, we did not walk the talk...:yes:

SleMarKen
February 8th, 2011, 11:10 PM
Kung ang goberno mag check pa permi sa kasapaan bisag 3 times a week, dili ta kinahanglan og Billions of pesos para badlongon nang mo tukod untag mga balay sa kilid sa kasapaan. Kung ang molupyo mag matngon sa ilang basura kung asa ilabay, dili ta kinahanglan og Billions para gamiton sa dredging.

Bisag maporma pa na ang MCDA o dili, masulbad gihapon ang problema kung atong gina buhat nang naka bold font.
Bisag pila pa ka Authority ang ma tukod, dili gihapon masulbad atong mga problema kung di nato gina buhat ang naka bold font.

sa mga recent news articles about sa atong LGU with regards to that Authority...
From 3 last week, now 2.8/10 ang akong grado sa atong LGU.

ayg palag kay mag maestra ko:D

Parchie
February 9th, 2011, 01:20 AM
Kung ang goberno mag check pa permi sa kasapaan bisag 3 times a week, dili ta kinahanglan og Billions of pesos para badlongon nang mo tukod untag mga balay sa kilid sa kasapaan. Kung ang molupyo mag matngon sa ilang basura kung asa ilabay, dili ta kinahanglan og Billions para gamiton sa dredging.

Bisag maporma pa na ang MCDA o dili, masulbad gihapon ang problema kung atong gina buhat nang naka bold font.
Bisag pila pa ka Authority ang ma tukod, dili gihapon masulbad atong mga problema kung di nato gina buhat ang naka bold font.

sa mga recent news articles about sa atong LGU with regards to that Authority...
From 3 last week, now 2.8/10 ang akong grado sa atong LGU.

ayg palag kay mag maestra ko:D

Sa imong PoV, sakto man sab. Pero ug suwayan sab nimo ang PoV sa mga wa'y nahot nga lumolupyo, naa sa'y ikasulti! Ngano? Makahimo gyud unta ka ug pangutang/pagpalit ug bisan ug gamay nga kapuy-an kon --->duna kay igo-igo nga pangita (job). Kay galisud man ang kadaghanan sa atong mga ig-suon, kapyot na lang bisan ug sayop: maghimo ug payag-payag bisan anha ibabaw sa drainage canals/creeks.

Kining mga problema nato karon, nagpaila lang ni nga daghan pa gyud diay ang wa ka-apil ug sakay sa paglambo sa atong ekonomiya! Sa imo na'ng gi-ingon, kuwang pa gyud ang mga paninguha nato aron masulbad ang tanang problema nga giatubang. Hinay-hinayan lang gyud nato ni ug sulbad kay ug pugson, basin ug "modugo", ug si Iyo Menti pa ang pasultihon!

SleMarKen
February 9th, 2011, 02:53 AM
^^Kung akoy Mayor, di nako tugtan. Buot sila nga ang safety man sa kadaghanan ang akong gi huna huna nga di manga anod ig uwan. Babagan nako. Wa silay mahimo. Kinsa may mas poweful, sila o ang Mayor... Di man sad sayop nang buhata nga di sila tugtan mo balay kilid sa mga sapa.

bakasaurus
February 9th, 2011, 03:16 AM
Inyo lang gyung gi lisod lisod inyong kaugalingon. Bisag i-usa pa ang Metro Cebu o dili, bisag mag himo pag MCDA o dili, pareha ra gihapon na.

All I have observed that these problems came up because we're all too lousy...
Puro ra gyud ta sat sat, puro ra gyud ta sturya tanan mapaLGU officials, mapa forumer. Daghan kaayo tag gipang sulti pero ang action, 10% ra gyud sa gipang sulti ang mahitabo.

Niadtong wala ko diri sa Cebu, mag agad ra ko sa mga news articles og sa mga recent pics diri sa SSC, duha ka side ang nakita nako nga ni move forward (as per news releases diri sa forum both government and economic side) ang "economic activity" og atong "government activity"... Nindot kaayong paminawn kay nilambo ang duha ka sector. Cebu Business kay daghan kaayog bang ong projects and investments og ang atong LGU kay daghan kaayog proposal like katong beautiful body or katong beautification sa syudad og daghan pa kog nabasahan nga nindot nga nahitabo with regards sa actions sa atong LGU...

PERO:D

pag uli nako ang nakita ra nako nga ni materialize kay ang economic sector, tinuod gyud nga nilambo ang economic side sa Cebu but ang sa Government sector? Sadly, naka panaway gyud ko pag sakay nakog taxi from airport padong sa amo. Pasensya na nga nanaway ko pero mao man gud ilang gipasalig labi na sa mga news articles nga mao ni, mao na pero diay to sa reality halos wala koy nakita nga accomplishment.

So the problem is dili tungod kay dili na makaya kay di na maato maong kinahanglan na tag Authority, but because di na makaya kay wa man tay gibuhat...

Once and for all, di na nato makaya kay? Unsay tubag? Wa man ta'y gibuhat... PERYOD!

we just talk the walk, we did not walk the talk...:yes:


Kung ang goberno mag check pa permi sa kasapaan bisag 3 times a week, dili ta kinahanglan og Billions of pesos para badlongon nang mo tukod untag mga balay sa kilid sa kasapaan. Kung ang molupyo mag matngon sa ilang basura kung asa ilabay, dili ta kinahanglan og Billions para gamiton sa dredging.

Bisag maporma pa na ang MCDA o dili, masulbad gihapon ang problema kung atong gina buhat nang naka bold font.
Bisag pila pa ka Authority ang ma tukod, dili gihapon masulbad atong mga problema kung di nato gina buhat ang naka bold font.

sa mga recent news articles about sa atong LGU with regards to that Authority...
From 3 last week, now 2.8/10 ang akong grado sa atong LGU.

ayg palag kay mag maestra ko:D

I do subscribe to your philosophy here bai Slerz. I believe in the same thing that it's the best scenario when we all people take care of themselves - kana bang manlimpyo sa iyang tugkaran, mubuhat og sakto agad sa ilang konsensya, musubay sa balaod, dili mulabay og basura bisan asa, dili magpataka ug labang, kung magdrive musunod sa traffic rules and etiquette, kung government official dili mangawat sa kaban sa gobyerno. That is the best thing that can happen. And if everyone does just that - then we would never need to do anything with extra-effort. Basin gani mawad-an og trabaho ang mga pulis.

And I do think that is what many forumers here are already doing. Even more than that in fact. Many of us here are active contributors to our society and we are productive citizens, wala nagpabadlong. Even that is already good enough, and anything extra is appreciated and heroic. Of course, we think that our efforts are never enough and that is a good thing too, because we are concerned citizens. We think it is up to us, and our onus to DO THE EXTRA EFFORT to make up for those who are lacking. Mao nga, I think to be FAIR to the forumers here, including you and your exra efforts, I believe YOU ARE WALKING THE TALK!

Of course, this is a forum and all we can do here is talk and talk, use words, use pictures. We cannot list down all our accomplishments and brag to the world that hey this is what I've done so far. Doing so is irrelevant to this forum and would just earn you embarrassment kay dili man ta mga politiko diri. Ingnon ta og "ngano ka oi?" haha.

Naa ko'y mga pangutana bai if you would humor me with your answers:

1. Do you think walay impact or influence ang changes in government systems sa pagpadagan sa atoang katilingban kay matod pa nimo, lousy ra kaayo ta!?

2. Kung lousy ta, unsa man diay ang paagi aron muadto ta sa dapit nga dili na ta lousy? What needs to be done? What does it take to do it? Dili ba ta kinahanglan og kwarta ani?

3. How do we walk the talk? What can we do, and what are our limitations?

Parchie
February 9th, 2011, 03:37 AM
I do subscribe to your philosophy here bai Slerz. I believe in the same thing that it's the best scenario when we all people take care of themselves - kana bang manlimpyo sa iyang tugkaran, mubuhat og sakto agad sa ilang konsensya, musubay sa balaod, dili mulabay og basura bisan asa, dili magpataka ug labang, kung magdrive musunod sa traffic rules and etiquette, kung government official dili mangawat sa kaban sa gobyerno. That is the best thing that can happen. And if everyone does just that - then we would never need to do anything with extra-effort. Basin gani mawad-an og trabaho ang mga pulis.

And I do think that is what many forumers here are already doing. Even more than that in fact. Many of us here are active contributors to our society and we are productive citizens, wala nagpabadlong. Even that is already good enough, and anything extra is appreciated and heroic. Of course, we think that our efforts are never enough and that is a good thing too, because we are concerned citizens. We think it is up to us, and our onus to DO THE EXTRA EFFORT to make up for those who are lacking. Mao nga, I think to be FAIR to the forumers here, including you and your exra efforts, I believe YOU ARE WALKING THE TALK!

Of course, this is a forum and all we can do here is talk and talk, use words, use pictures. We cannot list down all our accomplishments and brag to the world that hey this is what I've done so far. Doing so is irrelevant to this forum and would just earn you embarrassment kay dili man ta mga politiko diri. Ingnon ta og "ngano ka oi?" haha.

Naa ko'y mga pangutana bai if you would humor me with your answers:

1. Do you think walay impact or influence ang changes in government systems sa pagpadagan sa atoang katilingban kay matod pa nimo, lousy ra kaayo ta!?

2. Kung lousy ta, unsa man diay ang paagi aron muadto ta sa dapit nga dili na ta lousy? What needs to be done? What does it take to do it? Dili ba ta kinahanglan og kwarta ani?

3. How do we walk the talk? What can we do, and what are our limitations?

Wa koy labot anang "ngano ka oi?" ha! Hehehehehe

Bisan ginagmay nga tabang gud, basta kanunay, syaro'g di mahurot nang mga problema diha! Ang akong hunahuna aning mga butanga bai, mora ug nakalimot gyud ang kadaghanan nga nagpuyo diay ta sa katilingban nato; nga duna diay ta'y mga silingan, duna'y maapektuhan sa atong mga buhaton hilabi na ug dautan ug supak sa balaud atong buhaton!

Ang ikadaut ra gyud sa atong Sugbo, ug wa na'y maghunahuna ug kaayohan alang sa tanan, ug wa na'y mobati sa uban nato'ng mga kaigsuonan nga galisud. Kaliwat man gyud ni nato'ng magyawyaw ba! Pero dako ug ikatabang kung magyawyaw unya duna sab ka'y isugyot nga kaayohang buhatonon, unya motabang sab gyud bisan ug diyutay lang.

Henz
February 9th, 2011, 03:41 AM
Well.. everbody here can subscribe to John Lennon's theory... " IMAGINE"..

Sige ta daghan istorya, daghan sad sayop. Daghan suggestion, dghan nakita na sayop sa katilingban pero kita mismo is unwilling to do it or do not intend to do it...

So better yet.. IMAGINE..

SleMarKen
February 9th, 2011, 05:18 AM
I do subscribe to your philosophy here bai Slerz. I believe in the same thing that it's the best scenario when we all people take care of themselves - kana bang manlimpyo sa iyang tugkaran, mubuhat og sakto agad sa ilang konsensya, musubay sa balaod, dili mulabay og basura bisan asa, dili magpataka ug labang, kung magdrive musunod sa traffic rules and etiquette, kung government official dili mangawat sa kaban sa gobyerno. That is the best thing that can happen. And if everyone does just that - then we would never need to do anything with extra-effort. Basin gani mawad-an og trabaho ang mga pulis.

And I do think that is what many forumers here are already doing. Even more than that in fact. Many of us here are active contributors to our society and we are productive citizens, wala nagpabadlong. Even that is already good enough, and anything extra is appreciated and heroic. Of course, we think that our efforts are never enough and that is a good thing too, because we are concerned citizens. We think it is up to us, and our onus to DO THE EXTRA EFFORT to make up for those who are lacking. Mao nga, I think to be FAIR to the forumers here, including you and your exra efforts, I believe YOU ARE WALKING THE TALK!

Of course, this is a forum and all we can do here is talk and talk, use words, use pictures. We cannot list down all our accomplishments and brag to the world that hey this is what I've done so far. Doing so is irrelevant to this forum and would just earn you embarrassment kay dili man ta mga politiko diri. Ingnon ta og "ngano ka oi?" haha.

Naa ko'y mga pangutana bai if you would humor me with your answers:

1. Do you think walay impact or influence ang changes in government systems sa pagpadagan sa atoang katilingban kay matod pa nimo, lousy ra kaayo ta!?

2. Kung lousy ta, unsa man diay ang paagi aron muadto ta sa dapit nga dili na ta lousy? What needs to be done? What does it take to do it? Dili ba ta kinahanglan og kwarta ani?

3. How do we walk the talk? What can we do, and what are our limitations?

1. naa. Either mo asenso ta or mo unlod tag samot. It depends really sa akong giingon nga walk the talk og talk the walk.

2. dili ta kinahangland og kwartsa sa atong basic responsibilities. Kung mag huna huna lang gyud ta like for example kanang wrapper sa pagkaon, mag sakit gyud akong dughan kung akong ilabay sa dan. Paro ang uban padayon og labay. Ang uban kahibaw na baya, gahi lang gyud og uli.

3. How? Let's all help each other. Kung kita diri mga forumers naning kaayo pag tabang sa atong government pero ang government na tog ra. So as a community, lousy ra gihapon ta.
limitations:as long as dili ta maka lapas sa balaod sa atong gipang buhat para sa kaayuhan sa atong kounidad.


About sa mga forumers, i know nga nitabang ta sa government pero naa gihapon tay mga obligations nga wa nato tagaig pag tagad. Sa sige namog kuyog kuyog, naka bantay ko nga naay mga kauban nato nga mga gahig ulo. Bisag sturyahan nato og kadaghan, di gahapon kasabot ba. Other example like sa SSC car mangaon nya pataga lag pasad sa ilang sagbot sulod sa sakyanan, maikog lang tas tag iya...:D I mean maklaro man gud kung kutob ra ta sa storya kay maayo kaayo pagka explain diri nga di takag labay nya diay to kung sa reality na, taka lag labay... SAKSPAN...ahahaha:D :lol:

I mean dili na direct nga maka apekto sa atong kahimtang diri sa syudad pero diha mana nag sugod sa atong basic responsibilities.

Kung gahi og ulo ang mga taw, ang responsible ana kay ang government man sad kung unsa sila ka seryoso mo disiplina sa mga molupyo although naa lagi pagpang disiplina like sa mga drivers dakpon sa citom pero kuwang gihapon ang ka hugot sa disiplina nga gipatuman sa atong gobyerno. May tuyok tuyok ra gyud na sa government og sa katawhan. Kung ang usa dili mo cooperate, lousy gyud ang atong pagpakabana.

note:base ra na sa akong na obserbahan nga di maayo nakong nakita. Although naa sad koy di maayong nabuhat that's why I consider myself nga lousy sad.

SleMarKen
February 9th, 2011, 05:25 AM
@Baka, ayaw lang og lawma og eninglis kay di ta kasabot kaayo :D
Binisay a lang kay di ta ka level..ehehehe

Henz
February 9th, 2011, 05:34 AM
@Baka, ayaw lang og lawma og eninglis kay di ta kasabot kaayo :D
Binisay a lang kay di ta ka level..ehehehe


bitaw sa..morag giapil jud tas career aning @ baka..

honestly, i found your posts meaty and very intellectual.. daghan me makat-onan.. hehehe:)

dem3born
February 9th, 2011, 07:53 AM
Kuyawa gyud ug ininglis ning bai @baka oi pwerti gyung lawoma.:rock:Pero ganahan ko mobasa sa iyang inglis bisan di na ko kasabot. Unsa man ning thread sa cebu oi maka adik. Pero bisan maka adik daghan sad gyud ta makatunan. dakoa na gasto nako internetan kadaadlaw oi. p20 - p30 kadadlaw nya 3yrs nako cge basa ninyo. Di makumpleto ang adlaw kung di kabasa inyo mga thread. hehehe:laugh::laugh::laugh:

leylander
February 9th, 2011, 07:55 AM
Kuyawa gyud ug ininglis ning bai @baka oi pwerti gyung lawoma. Pero ganahan ko mobasa sa iyang inglis bisan di na ko kasabot. Unsa man ning thread sa cebu oi maka adik. Pero bisan maka adik daghan sad gyud ta makatunan. dakoa na gasto nako internetan kadaadlaw oi. p20 - p30 kadadlaw nya 3yrs nako cge basa ninyo. Di makumpleto ang adlaw kung di kabasa inyo mga thread. hehehe

imo unta to gitigum bai

365 X 30 pesos = 10,950

10,950 X 3 years = 32,850

nindot na kaayo na nga computer. hehehe

SleMarKen
February 9th, 2011, 07:58 AM
^^mura ra sad kag niingon Sir og ayaw og kaon para matigom nimo ang kwarta ipalit pagkaon:D

angelito_cebu
February 9th, 2011, 08:00 AM
http://realestate.cebunetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/spianada-300x225.jpg

SPIANADA is a cluster of 4 10-storey mid-rise buildings with a central square that will rise on Sepulveda St. in Cebu City.
from: http://realestate.cebunetwork.com/69/spianada-condo-sepulveda-ceb/

dem3born
February 9th, 2011, 08:04 AM
deli madala ug tigom kay mabuak kadaadlaw ang alkansiya para bayad internet, samot ka dako ako gasto hehehe.

SleMarKen
February 9th, 2011, 08:07 AM
http://realestate.cebunetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/spianada-300x225.jpg

SPIANADA is a cluster of 4 10-storey mid-rise buildings with a central square that will rise on Sepulveda St. in Cebu City.
from: http://realestate.cebunetwork.com/69/spianada-condo-sepulveda-ceb/

heres the thread for that Sir...
Link: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1256447 :okay:

angelito_cebu
February 9th, 2011, 09:03 AM
heres the thread for that Sir...
Link: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1256447 :okay:

aw hehe sorry sir... thanks

diehardbisdak
February 9th, 2011, 09:22 AM
flickr pic by @shutterbad (http://www.flickr.com/photos/colorless/5427659723/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5132/5427659723_3c19a00863_b.jpg

BAKLANGCEBU
February 9th, 2011, 11:51 AM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm sa tinuod lang ......................................basin troll na siya oi. just leave him alone please.

Cebu15
February 9th, 2011, 12:21 PM
Waterfront Cebu to undergo P300M renovations

Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines—Gatchalian-led hotel operator Waterfront Philippines Inc. is investing P300 million to spruce up its flagship hotel property in Cebu City.

The upscale 560-room Waterfront Cebu City Hotel and Casino, which single-handedly contributes 41 percent of WPI's gross revenues, will be renovated in three phases and completed by 2012, according to the company’s disclosure to the Philippine Stock Exchange.

The first phase shall involve the renovation of the grand and lower lobbies of the hotel, to be followed by the renovation of the function rooms and eventually those of the larger convention facilities.

The first two phases will be undertaken within the next 10 months while the last phase will take place during the first quarter of 2012. Each phase would cost around P100 million, of which all the funds allocated for the said project would be taken from internally generated funds, the company said.

“We are extremely excited to embark on this multimillion-peso renovation project because this will further enhance our product and service offerings that will eventually yield to better guest experience and revenues,” said WPI vice president for special projects Weslie Gatchalian.

angelito_cebu
February 9th, 2011, 02:18 PM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/19361_311711377130_731672130_3936705_3095254_n.jpg


the late afternoon sun created a dramatic effect on crown regency hotel and tower...

taken on my last day @ jking & sons co., inc.

diehardbisdak
February 9th, 2011, 02:33 PM
^^ Sir @viva, ikaw ba 'yan?

Zuburbia
February 9th, 2011, 02:46 PM
The future is now bai Zubby! Haha.
3 na ta with the same position, unya na bolster ang atoang credibility sa professional opinion ni Sir Zid. Haha.

But seriously, I have never really studied these matters to give a worthy professional opinion but I look at it based on how natural systems work, especially organisms. To cut through the pseudo-intellectual explanation, successful kaayo nga natural design ang cephalization - the development of organs in the body to specialize in decision-making processes that affects the whole body. Usa ra ang utok. This seems to be the winning scheme after millions of years of evolution.

Cities are similar in that aspect, and most political structures. If common ang stimulus and set of problems affecting the whole metro, then magkaguliyang gyud ta og inefficient kaayo kung daghan kaayo og utok, daghan ang magbuot. We will end up having reflexive reactions. Kung makasugat kag irong buang, unsaon na lang kung magiya-iya ang imong kamot, and duha ka tiil, ang imong mata? Ang resulta mapaakan gyud imong lobot.

But what about this MCDC?
The goals are very lofty and ideal and I strongly agree with them, that we need coordinated planning for the metro.

Ang problema ani kay band-aid ra gihapon kaayo ni siya. Naa ba gyud siyay political-legal mandate? Unsa man ang voting powers sa members when deciding? Asa man based? Sa GDP, sa population (daytime or nighttime?). Diha pa lang daan makit-an na ang iyang weakness.

IT WILL ONLY BE GOOD IN TIMES WHEN ALL ARE AGREEABLE to an issue or something that needs to be decided. BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE IS DISSENTING OPINION? Will it be majority vote? Consensus building?

We go back again to the question of who will have the final decision, the mayor or the MCDC? Kinsa man an naay katungod subay sa atong balaod?

Dili gyud ni muwork in the end in my opinion because this is very artificial and wala gyud ni siyay gahum. But, cities on the other hand have solid legal mandate to decide for themselves. That is why, the best thing to do is to follow what Tokyo, New York, Bangkok and other world cities who have been there and done that: to FULLY integrate Metro Cebu into one city!

We need not look very far to see what ails this type of set-up. Look at MMDA and the local LGUs! They have never really worked efficiently because of turf wars. It's confusing and inefficient!

@ Sir Zid: Am neither a politician nor a lawyer, but what are the steps to be taken if we go to the direction of a unified METROPOLITAN CITY OF CEBU?

nindotag metaphor nimo bai baka oi, sa tinuod lang perti nakong buhakhak ani...hahaha!
bitaw nakaluha napod kog popcorn sa imong post, kamaayo jud nimong i-hug og hawkan oi! :cheers::cheers::lol::lol:

NewTown
February 9th, 2011, 02:58 PM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/19361_311711377130_731672130_3936705_3095254_n.jpg


the late afternoon sun created a dramatic effect on crown regency hotel and tower...

taken on my last day @ jking & sons co., inc.


Nice shot pero curious ako sa building na naa sa right side ng Crown Regency Hotel and Tower. Unsay nahitabo anang building na dugay nang tapos pero mao rag abandoned ug naay usa ka occupant, ang McDonald. Naa kay idea?

angelito_cebu
February 9th, 2011, 03:06 PM
Nice shot pero curious ako sa building na naa sa right side ng Crown Regency Hotel and Tower. Unsay nahitabo anang building na dugay nang tapos pero mao rag abandoned ug naay usa ka occupant, ang McDonald. Naa kay idea?

wow thanks... wala raba ko kabalo ana... ako baw-an kay dili daw na lig-on mao wala gamita...

hakhaimo
February 9th, 2011, 03:08 PM
Just want to share this one...

From Cebu Infrastructure thread...

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zubuwood
February 9th, 2011, 03:27 PM
Maka hilak jud ni siya ai :):):)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd6AJjIpKz8&feature=related
OUR Faith to our dear Nino

Zuburbia
February 9th, 2011, 03:30 PM
Inyo lang gyung gi lisod lisod inyong kaugalingon. Bisag i-usa pa ang Metro Cebu o dili, bisag mag himo pag MCDA o dili, pareha ra gihapon na.

All I have observed that these problems came up because we're all too lousy...
Puro ra gyud ta sat sat, puro ra gyud ta sturya tanan mapaLGU officials, mapa forumer. Daghan kaayo tag gipang sulti pero ang action, 10% ra gyud sa gipang sulti ang mahitabo.

Niadtong wala ko diri sa Cebu, mag agad ra ko sa mga news articles og sa mga recent pics diri sa SSC, duha ka side ang nakita nako nga ni move forward (as per news releases diri sa forum both government and economic side) ang "economic activity" og atong "government activity"... Nindot kaayong paminawn kay nilambo ang duha ka sector. Cebu Business kay daghan kaayog bang ong projects and investments og ang atong LGU kay daghan kaayog proposal like katong beautiful body or katong beautification sa syudad og daghan pa kog nabasahan nga nindot nga nahitabo with regards sa actions sa atong LGU...

PERO:D

pag uli nako ang nakita ra nako nga ni materialize kay ang economic sector, tinuod gyud nga nilambo ang economic side sa Cebu but ang sa Government sector? Sadly, naka panaway gyud ko pag sakay nakog taxi from airport padong sa amo. Pasensya na nga nanaway ko pero mao man gud ilang gipasalig labi na sa mga news articles nga mao ni, mao na pero diay to sa reality halos wala koy nakita nga accomplishment.

So the problem is dili tungod kay dili na makaya kay di na maato maong kinahanglan na tag Authority, but because di na makaya kay wa man tay gibuhat...

Once and for all, di na nato makaya kay? Unsay tubag? Wa man ta'y gibuhat... PERYOD!

we just talk the walk, we did not walk the talk...:yes:

hey slerz maybe u forget that we are ordinary citizens..we dont have the power to change the policies and the whole aspect of governance even with just our own baranggay..the whole problem is mismanagement, and management needs a manager, and whos the manager? its the government! naunsyan man ka oi, reality is we are just so small, we can be crushed like bugs in the ground at anytime! thats the system in a society, we need to be governed to be unified..and if the one that governs doesnt do what it needs to do then we all fall down! same as what you have said, almost all of the private sectors are doing well, and we are part of that private sector.. my family is doing a good business here in cebu, and im happy with my job and do my best to be better on my own... in that way we are already doing our part as citizens...but whats lacking is the good service that the government needs to provide to the whole, specially to the unfortunate and those who lost their ways(and its part of our relaity), to make everything harmonious and orderly....:) wala ta sa salida nga naay ordinaryong taw magpaka-hero para maoy moluwas sa humanity, we are in a real world and we need a sane government to fix our social, environmental, and most specially our urban problems...etc....

heres a really good song/lyrics from my favorite band...this expresses how we humans/ordinary citizens are...take a deep introspection on the lyrics and then you will realize the truth of what we are only capable off...heroes are in the movies, real humanity ends up hoping, ends up waiting, ends up spitting words....:) its not only cebu, its the world....:)


"Let Down"
By Radiohead

Transport, motorways and tramlines
Starting and then stopping
Taking off and landing
The emptiest of feelings
Disappointed people clinging on to bottles
And when it comes it's so so disappointing

Let down and hanging around
Crushed like a bug in the ground
Let down and hanging around

Shell smashed, juices flowing
Wings twitch, legs are going
Don't get sentimental
It always ends up drivel

One day I'm going to grow wings
A chemical reaction
Hysterical and useless
Hysterical and ...

Let down and hanging around
Crushed like a bug in the ground
Let down and hanging around

Let down again
Let down again
Let down again

You know, you know where you are with
You know where you are with
Floor collapsing
Floating, bouncing back
And one day....
I am going to grow wings
A chemical reaction
Hysterical and useless
Hysterical and...

Let down and hanging around
Crushed like a bug in the ground
Let down and hanging around

:lol::lol:hala kadrama:lol::lol:

Zuburbia
February 9th, 2011, 03:43 PM
Kung ang goberno mag check pa permi sa kasapaan bisag 3 times a week, dili ta kinahanglan og Billions of pesos para badlongon nang mo tukod untag mga balay sa kilid sa kasapaan. Kung ang molupyo mag matngon sa ilang basura kung asa ilabay, dili ta kinahanglan og Billions para gamiton sa dredging.

Bisag maporma pa na ang MCDA o dili, masulbad gihapon ang problema kung atong gina buhat nang naka bold font.
Bisag pila pa ka Authority ang ma tukod, dili gihapon masulbad atong mga problema kung di nato gina buhat ang naka bold font.

sa mga recent news articles about sa atong LGU with regards to that Authority...
From 3 last week, now 2.8/10 ang akong grado sa atong LGU.

ayg palag kay mag maestra ko:D

part gijhapon na sa work sa government to be strict and educate people in throwing garbage...miski asa pa kas kalibutan kung di mahimong magahi og dunay political will ang gobyerno, wala juy kaayohan mahitabo... kay sama sa gika-ingon ko na dili tanan taw pareho tarong og utok, naa juy mga nahisalaag sa dalan..naa diha ang gobyerno to unite us all sa atong tarong nga katuyo-an...in the first place mao bitawng naghimog common consensus ang katawhan sa kalibutan nga maghimog iya iyang gobyerno para sa kahiusahan sa tanan....:)

Zuburbia
February 9th, 2011, 04:01 PM
Well.. everbody here can subscribe to John Lennon's theory... " IMAGINE"..

Sige ta daghan istorya, daghan sad sayop. Daghan suggestion, dghan nakita na sayop sa katilingban pero kita mismo is unwilling to do it or do not intend to do it...

So better yet.. IMAGINE..

yes its true henz..imagining makes us go on with life..and hoping...... like most of us... that is why sige pa tag yawyaw diri og panimbasog sa kinabuhi, because we are one of those who are hoping for a better government for a better humanity...

if u think that its impossible and it will just end up in john lennon's song "Imagine", and we just have to go where the government's shit go and pretend that everything's ok and wonderful! then its just the same as agreeing that we just all go to hell, and that there is no more light...haha! so then, lets just think that the ugly is the beautiful. well anyway, we are here because we think...hahaha! :lol::lol::lol::nuts:

Zuburbia
February 9th, 2011, 04:08 PM
I do subscribe to your philosophy here bai Slerz. I believe in the same thing that it's the best scenario when we all people take care of themselves - kana bang manlimpyo sa iyang tugkaran, mubuhat og sakto agad sa ilang konsensya, musubay sa balaod, dili mulabay og basura bisan asa, dili magpataka ug labang, kung magdrive musunod sa traffic rules and etiquette, kung government official dili mangawat sa kaban sa gobyerno. That is the best thing that can happen. And if everyone does just that - then we would never need to do anything with extra-effort. Basin gani mawad-an og trabaho ang mga pulis.

And I do think that is what many forumers here are already doing. Even more than that in fact. Many of us here are active contributors to our society and we are productive citizens, wala nagpabadlong. Even that is already good enough, and anything extra is appreciated and heroic. Of course, we think that our efforts are never enough and that is a good thing too, because we are concerned citizens. We think it is up to us, and our onus to DO THE EXTRA EFFORT to make up for those who are lacking. Mao nga, I think to be FAIR to the forumers here, including you and your exra efforts, I believe YOU ARE WALKING THE TALK!

Of course, this is a forum and all we can do here is talk and talk, use words, use pictures. We cannot list down all our accomplishments and brag to the world that hey this is what I've done so far. Doing so is irrelevant to this forum and would just earn you embarrassment kay dili man ta mga politiko diri. Ingnon ta og "ngano ka oi?" haha.

Naa ko'y mga pangutana bai if you would humor me with your answers:

1. Do you think walay impact or influence ang changes in government systems sa pagpadagan sa atoang katilingban kay matod pa nimo, lousy ra kaayo ta!?

2. Kung lousy ta, unsa man diay ang paagi aron muadto ta sa dapit nga dili na ta lousy? What needs to be done? What does it take to do it? Dili ba ta kinahanglan og kwarta ani?

3. How do we walk the talk? What can we do, and what are our limitations?

mao mao jud tag baruganan bai baka...apir sa beh!!!!:):):cheers::cheers: hehe

ganahan kayo ko ana akong gi-bold!:colgate:

Henz
February 9th, 2011, 04:38 PM
yes its true henz..imagining makes us go on with life..and hoping...... like most of us... that is why sige pa tag yawyaw diri og panimbasog sa kinabuhi, because we are one of those who are hoping for a better government for a better humanity...

if u think that its impossible and it will just end up in john lennon's song "Imagine", and we just have to go where the government's shit go and pretend that everything's ok and wonderful! then its just the same as agreeing that we just all go to hell, and that there is no more light...haha! so then, lets just think that the ugly is the beautiful. well anyway, we are here because we think...hahaha! :lol::lol::lol::nuts:

so what happens to your statement na simpleng tawo ra.. wa tay mahimo?
sulod gawas man ka zuburbs.. pag sure kuno sa imong baruganan...

you know.. kung ang usa ka tawo ni express sa iyang sentiments here.. its understandble, at least we forumer had already know you, your belief, your principle etc..

Wala may nikontra nimo.. you have nothing to argue here but yourself.. Wala man me moingon nga sakto ka.. o sayop ka anang imong baruganan kay we also knew that problem.. and we do recognize that it is a problem... di ba?

For sure you believe in the saying " ONE WORD IS ENOUGH FOR A WISE MAN" Now.. if you all do respect the forumers here and treat them as equally wise men.. then ONE WORD... ONE STATEMENT IS ENOUGH!!!

If you keep on repeating,you are not anymore stating your stand.. but you are already nagging...

Yes this is a forum.. but let also be fair to everybody... :)

Zuburbia
February 9th, 2011, 05:08 PM
so what happens to your statement na simpleng tawo ra.. wa tay mahimo?
sulod gawas man ka zuburbs.. pag sure kuno sa imong baruganan...

you know.. kung ang usa ka tawo ni express sa iyang sentiments here.. its understandble, at least we forumer had already know you, your belief, your principle etc..

Wala may nikontra nimo.. you have nothing to argue here but yourself.. Wala man me moingon nga sakto ka.. o sayop ka anang imong baruganan kay we also knew that problem.. and we do recognize that it is a problem... di ba?

For sure you believe in the saying " ONE WORD IS ENOUGH FOR A WISE MAN" Now.. if you all do respect the forumers here and treat them as equally wise men.. then ONE WORD... ONE STATEMENT IS ENOUGH!!!

If you keep on repeating,you are not anymore stating your stand.. but you are already nagging...

Yes this is a forum.. but let also be fair to everybody... :)


^^
hahaha cant u notice here? that everything is a repetition? as long as things keep on happening we could always get back to it! ngano bawal diay? i thought this forum is open to anything as long as you're not trolling around! and i know that definitely im not a troll... same as you are, u have your own thoughts on issues and i know u have a strong stand on it, you think it would be the other way around if u post again expressing ur own thoughts on the matter similar to the issues held before?

and who's being unfair here? am i? naa ba koy unfair nga treatment? wa ko kabantay

if kung magsakit imong kasing kasing sige paminaw sa mga yangongo, then you could always click on another page and read something worthwhile for you... :-)))))) we have choices either to ignore and make ur own perception, or to feel and be involved even if its a headache, its always the end result that counts....for now kay tungod we are in a forum usa ras mabuhat nato diri samtang galingkod sa atong desk is ang pagpagawas sa gipangbati og pagyawyaw...hahaha! that simple.... :-)))

There is really a good movie about this henz, if u can find time, check the movie I Love/heart Huckabees! or maybe we can watch it over here sa balay... it really reflects our opposing stand..hehe! the movie also talks a lot about urban sprawl, government, and questions about life in general...hehehe ... then maybe you will understand that its just not all about nagging, its about.......I dont know......hehe!!!
pohon pohon if naa tay time :)

diehardbisdak
February 9th, 2011, 05:11 PM
Just want to share this one...

From Cebu Infrastructure thread...

^^ this is not a real project proposal bai...lingaw-lingaw ra ni sa mga 3D enthusiasts in SSC :okay: ...the guy who made it is part of the group who also created CEBU CITY STADIUM in Mactan :lol:

Simple Dude
February 9th, 2011, 09:18 PM
^^ Cebu City is a very nice and Beautiful City,... :cheers:
rich of History and tourist spot's of a good Quality and where business emerges... :banana:

but one thing that Cebu must improve is it's cleanliness and organization,... specially in Colon and some other parts... i hope your city Government will work on this as much as possible... :okay:

SleMarKen
February 9th, 2011, 10:05 PM
Nice shot pero curious ako sa building na naa sa right side ng Crown Regency Hotel and Tower. Unsay nahitabo anang building na dugay nang tapos pero mao rag abandoned ug naay usa ka occupant, ang McDonald. Naa kay idea?



Family dispute Sir :yes:

AmbutLang
February 10th, 2011, 01:37 AM
imo unta to gitigum bai

365 X 30 pesos = 10,950

10,950 X 3 years = 32,850

nindot na kaayo na nga computer. hehehe

After 3 years datadata nimo sa computer, ma obsolete na kay magkinahanglan lain aron maka support sa software. Hinuon magamit pa gihapon pag net. :lol: :lol:

Henz
February 10th, 2011, 05:29 AM
^^
hahaha cant u notice here? that everything is a repetition? as long as things keep on happening we could always get back to it! ngano bawal diay? i thought this forum is open to anything as long as you're not trolling around! and i know that definitely im not a troll... same as you are, u have your own thoughts on issues and i know u have a strong stand on it, you think it would be the other way around if u post again expressing ur own thoughts on the matter similar to the issues held before?

and who's being unfair here? am i? naa ba koy unfair nga treatment? wa ko kabantay

if kung magsakit imong kasing kasing sige paminaw sa mga yangongo, then you could always click on another page and read something worthwhile for you... :-)))))) we have choices either to ignore and make ur own perception, or to feel and be involved even if its a headache, its always the end result that counts....for now kay tungod we are in a forum usa ras mabuhat nato diri samtang galingkod sa atong desk is ang pagpagawas sa gipangbati og pagyawyaw...hahaha! that simple.... :-)))

There is really a good movie about this henz, if u can find time, check the movie I Love/heart Huckabees! or maybe we can watch it over here sa balay... it really reflects our opposing stand..hehe! the movie also talks a lot about urban sprawl, government, and questions about life in general...hehehe ... then maybe you will understand that its just not all about nagging, its about.......I dont know......hehe!!!
pohon pohon if naa tay time :)


Thank you for this.. mas maayo seguro.. so that we can talk about your suggested solutions randz.. You know its one thing to nag......... but after you nag about everything that matters in this world.. the next question is..

WHAT NOW???

You would ask.. whose being unfair? the answer is simple...

You keep on talking problems without even lifting one of your finger for a possible solution... then thats being UNFAIR.. So the challenge is now being given to you and to us... that is precisely SSC Cebu evolved into a civic group so that at least we can do something in our own little way... And the challenge is with you and with us now.. to be relevant.

Honestly, mas admirable pa ang tao na wala kay madungog even a word.. but ang iyang simple action can lift even the highest mountain... you know what i mean.. :cheers:

ritche
February 10th, 2011, 06:21 AM
Philippines - List of Champions

1911 All Manila
1912 Bohemian Club (Manila)
1913 Bohemian Club (Manila)
1914 Nomads SC (Parañaque)
1915 Bohemian Club (Manila)
1916 Bohemian Club (Manila)
1917 Bohemian Club (Manila)
1918 Bohemian Club (Manila)
1919 no competition
1920 Bohemian Club (Manila)
1921 Bohemian Club (Manila)
1922 Bohemian Club (Manila)
1923 Ferencváros TC
1924 Cantabria
1925 International
1926 Ateneo FC (Manila)
1927 Bohemian Club (Manila)
1928 San Beda College
1929 Peña Iberica
1930 San Beda Athletic Club
1931 San Beda Athletic Club
1932 San Beda Athletic Club
1933 San Beda Athletic Club
1934 University of Santo Tomás
1935 Malayan Command (Singapore)
1936-50 no tournament
1951-66 not known
1967 Manila Lions FC
1968-80 not known
1980/81 CDCP (Manila)
1981/82 Navy
1982/83 Air Force
1983/84 San Miguel Corporation (Mandaluyong)
1985 Air Force
1986 not known
1987 Dumaguete FC
1988 M Lhuillier Jewellers FC (Cebu)
1989 Air Force
1990 Bacalod FC
1991 Navy
1992-93 not known
1994 Pasay City
1995 Makati
1996 not known
1997 Air Force Hawks
1998 NCR South
1999 NCR-B (Navy and Air Force combination)
2000-03 not known
2004 NCR
2005 NCR
2006 Negros Occidental FA
2007 NCR
2008

NB: NCR = National Capital Region

La Salle FC won 2 championships, years unknown.

Source (http://www.rsssf.com/tablesp/philchamp.html)
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesp/philchamp.html

Only three football clubs outside NCR captured the crown in the national football league: Cebu, Negros Occidental/Bacolod, and Dumaguete...

SleMarKen
February 10th, 2011, 06:28 AM
GLEE made their own version of Thriller by the Dancing Inmates :okay:
It's a prison but endorsed in a school as a good example to follow.:cheers:
Mt_5aqEvbb0

SineBuano
February 10th, 2011, 07:23 AM
Nice...

MatudNilaBaby
February 10th, 2011, 07:53 AM
GLEE made their own version of Thriller by the Dancing Inmates :okay:
It's a prison but endorsed in a school as a good example to follow.:cheers:
Mt_5aqEvbb0

pati cpdrc inmates ginagaya na nang glee. belib gyud ko aning mga cebuano oi. global trend setter kaayo:lol::lol::lol:

zubuwood
February 10th, 2011, 08:54 AM
Asa Mani Dapit sa Cebu kanindot ba ani oi.... Kung naa palay kwarta ang pamilya paliton jud ni dayon namo :banana::banana::banana: Grabe ka nindot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INUMBYOyYqs&feature=related

diehardbisdak
February 10th, 2011, 09:19 AM
^^ it's MIRANILA Project bai...somewhere in Barili....dugay na kaayo ni nga project bai pero wala pa gyu'y further development...i believe it's already an approved Ecozone...here is the project overview:

***************

pic & text source: http://miranila.com/index.php



MiraNila

Miranila Cebu Philippines Asia real estate raw land project 850 hectares. Resort, golf, high technology, retail, speculative investment.

Overview

The MiraNila project is an impressive development project situated on The Philippines' most exciting island, Cebu.

•Five resort complexes
•Two championship golf courses
•Over 100 hectares of high-tech employment facilities
•A wide variety of housing opportunities for MiraNila and the nearby burgeoning towns of Toledo, Balamban, Carcar, Naga, San Carlos and San Fernando
•A comprehensive town center accomodating commercial, service, civic, medical facilities and cultural activities
•Retirement and resort/recreational facilities appealing to Cebu's international and domestic market
•A new major regional airport and seaport
•A university complex integrated with business and business park activities
•A Philippine-Asian Friendship Village as a major tourism attraction incorporating a tourism training center and nature camp facilities
•A sports complex, including world-class tennis courts for international competition

Comprising 1,200 hectares for near-term development and 2,800 hectares for mid-term development, MiraNila is an ambitious realestate project. Its location overlooking the Tañon Straight provides it with stunning views to Negros Island, 8 km of coastline, a world-class environmental framework and some of the most desirable property in The Philippines.

MiraNila is also open to individuals seeking to acquire land for investment and/or for residence & retirement. Just tell us what you're looking for and we'll get in contact with you to explain all the opportunities available in MiraNila.

http://miranila.com/images/accordion%2009_500x375.jpg

http://miranila.com/images/Project/Beach%20Resort.jpg

http://miranila.com/images/Project/Bay%20Bay%20Beach.jpg

http://miranila.com/images/Photos/Bojo%20Entrance%201.jpg

zubuwood
February 10th, 2011, 09:33 AM
^^ o wow na wow... Sige lng basin naa ra unyay makapansin ani na Property.. Hope soon... International Brand unta bah... :cheers:

Zuburbia
February 10th, 2011, 02:54 PM
Thank you for this.. mas maayo seguro.. so that we can talk about your suggested solutions randz.. You know its one thing to nag......... but after you nag about everything that matters in this world.. the next question is..

WHAT NOW???

You would ask.. whose being unfair? the answer is simple...

You keep on talking problems without even lifting one of your finger for a possible solution... then thats being UNFAIR.. So the challenge is now being given to you and to us... that is precisely SSC Cebu evolved into a civic group so that at least we can do something in our own little way... And the challenge is with you and with us now.. to be relevant.

Honestly, mas admirable pa ang tao na wala kay madungog even a word.. but ang iyang simple action can lift even the highest mountain... you know what i mean.. :cheers:

hay kakapoy og balik balik..i already said what i was trying to say...just read back pls.. the government is the solution!!!..... nothing more...

ive done my part as a good citizen, i dont drive my car as much as possible, i walk and use public transport, i dont throw trash anywhere....
im not part of the governing body, and im not a hero...the ills of the society as a whole is brought about by the failure of the government to do good in a unified system that work for us all...

i just keep on being a good citizen, a worker or a business person, cause thats my job, mao na akong papel sa society..for those who seek peoples votes to serve, should serve and do their jobs truthfully, cause they have the biggest influence to the society....

ako ning napagawas nga mga pulong kay tungod "FORUM" man ni, mao ni medium to express whats deep inside us and what we believe is right, well its a way to refresh to whats good and right after all the social distortion, environmental degradation and inefficient government we see and deal with everyday... not necessarily be a hero or be like the "ideal" government and do their job.. like doing series of patchwork that most politicians here do... cause in reality we cannot do anything about putting up proper sidewalks or implementation of open-spaces/public parks, mass housing, or the creation of wildlife/national parks. etc. etc... Its always been the work of the government, simply we dont have power, miski pila pa ka kahoy imong itanom nya way proper land use law nga moprotect ana imong gipananom, wa pa mahamtong imong kahoy nga gitanom basin gikaingin kay tamnan og mais or gipanghawan na kay for subdivision, ikaw ganahan kaha ka mobantay ngadto para pakamatyan ang kahoy???? hehe... mao ayaw ikasagmuyo ang mga ingon aning topic, kay may nalang miski diri sa atong pagtuplok sa keyboard mapagawas nato ang frustrations og uban pa nimong naa sa utok akabahin sa atong susyudad.. FORUM RA LAGI NI, DILI ta HERO, Hisgot2x lang bah...:)

people may just defer...some are just so perky with life and wants all that glitters and all the positivity, and always choose to talk about it, then thats not a problem... If u like to talk about sosyalan malls, sosyalan nga mga brands nga mo-open sa city, well miski balik blik pa, its very ok... but some people, just like me can go down to the saddest, dramatic and the depressing side of life...the dark and the miserable human conditon, and still feel good afterwards... i dont know why some people cant handle it..hehehe!!! :lol::lol: ....still its about our differences and that we have to respect...:cheers:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 10th, 2011, 03:58 PM
^^ it's MIRANILA Project bai...somewhere in Barili....dugay na kaayo ni nga project bai pero wala pa gyu'y further development...i believe it's already an approved Ecozone...here is the project overview:

http://miranila.com/images/accordion%2009_500x375.jpg

http://miranila.com/images/Project/Beach%20Resort.jpg

http://miranila.com/images/Project/Bay%20Bay%20Beach.jpg

http://miranila.com/images/Photos/Bojo%20Entrance%201.jpg

WOW! in Barili?! unsang dugaya na diay ni sir? anugon kung dili matinuod coz i really want Barili to be a world-class tourist destination. actually, daghan nindot adtuan sa Barili. its actually where i spent most of my toddler days. :D

SleMarKen
February 10th, 2011, 04:00 PM
Kung ang goberno mag check pa permi sa kasapaan bisag 3 times a week, dili ta kinahanglan og Billions of pesos para badlongon nang mo tukod untag mga balay sa kilid sa kasapaan. Kung ang molupyo mag matngon sa ilang basura kung asa ilabay, dili ta kinahanglan og Billions para gamiton sa dredging.

Bisag maporma pa na ang MCDA o dili, masulbad gihapon ang problema kung atong gina buhat nang naka bold font.
Bisag pila pa ka Authority ang ma tukod, dili gihapon masulbad atong mga problema kung di nato gina buhat ang naka bold font.

sa mga recent news articles about sa atong LGU with regards to that Authority...
From 3 last week, now 2.8/10 ang akong grado sa atong LGU.

ayg palag kay mag maestra ko:D


part gijhapon na sa work sa government to be strict and educate people in throwing garbage...miski asa pa kas kalibutan kung di mahimong magahi og dunay political will ang gobyerno, wala juy kaayohan mahitabo... kay sama sa gika-ingon ko na dili tanan taw pareho tarong og utok, naa juy mga nahisalaag sa dalan..naa diha ang gobyerno to unite us all sa atong tarong nga katuyo-an...in the first place mao bitawng naghimog common consensus ang katawhan sa kalibutan nga maghimog iya iyang gobyerno para sa kahiusahan sa tanan....:)




ive done my part as a good citizen, i dont drive my car as much as possible, i walk and use public transport, i dont throw trash anywhere....
im not part of the governing body, and im not a hero...the ills of the society as a whole is brought about by the failure of the government to do good in a unified system that work for us all...




There you go... That's what I'm talking about. Our current government now is lousy and is not strict or no political will but you just said this "i dont throw trash anywhere "

Did our government educate you with this? ("i dont throw trash anywhere ") Diba wala? So it means we also need the cooperation of our people like you who is cooperating by not throwing anywhere. You learned this in your school, not by our Government.

To be strict is a Government's work which is already considered as education, not to say to the people that throwing is bad but being strict is a kind of education of discipline.

But to educate (about good or bad) is not a government's work but instead of our school. We have our school to educate us about the basic things to do to make our community better;)

So kung STRICT na ang government but here's you nga pataka lag labay kay di man tanang panahon maka bantay ang strict nga government sa imong lihok, it's not the government's fault anymore, but it's the ordinary people's fault...

Same as in Singapore, STRICT na kaayo ilang government pero daghan man gihapon manglabang sa dan bisag stop pa ang pedestrian light. So ang sayop dili ang Singapore government but instead sayop na sa katawhan kay wa sila ni cooperate.

So it's not right nga government lang tanan ang mobuhat para mo lambo ang atong lugar, kinahanglan gyud mag tinabangay ang duha, Government and People...


Note lang basig di nasad kasabot, basig mag huros huros nasad ang dughan:D
Ang akong explanation above doesn't mean ni uyon nako sa ka lousy sa atong government karon. Ako lang giklaro ang relation sa Government and its People...:yes:

My grade as of now::D
Cebu LGU - 2.5/10
Cebu citizens - 6/10

Henz
February 10th, 2011, 04:19 PM
hay kakapoy og balik balik..i already said what i was trying to say...just read back pls.. the government is the solution!!!..... nothing more...

ive done my part as a good citizen, i dont drive my car as much as possible, i walk and use public transport, i dont throw trash anywhere....
im not part of the governing body, and im not a hero...the ills of the society as a whole is brought about by the failure of the government to do good in a unified system that work for us all...

i just keep on being a good citizen, a worker or a business person, cause thats my job, mao na akong papel sa society..for those who seek peoples votes to serve, should serve and do their jobs truthfully, cause they have the biggest influence to the society....

ako ning napagawas nga mga pulong kay tungod "FORUM" man ni, mao ni medium to express whats deep inside us and what we believe is right, well its a way to refresh to whats good and right after all the social distortion, environmental degradation and inefficient government we see and deal with everyday... not necessarily be a hero or be like the "ideal" government and do their job.. like doing series of patchwork that most politicians here do... cause in reality we cannot do anything about putting up proper sidewalks or implementation of open-spaces/public parks, mass housing, or the creation of wildlife/national parks. etc. etc... Its always been the work of the government, simply we dont have power, miski pila pa ka kahoy imong itanom nya way proper land use law nga moprotect ana imong gipananom, wa pa mahamtong imong kahoy nga gitanom basin gikaingin kay tamnan og mais or gipanghawan na kay for subdivision, ikaw ganahan kaha ka mobantay ngadto para pakamatyan ang kahoy???? hehe... mao ayaw ikasagmuyo ang mga ingon aning topic, kay may nalang miski diri sa atong pagtuplok sa keyboard mapagawas nato ang frustrations og uban pa nimong naa sa utok akabahin sa atong susyudad.. FORUM RA LAGI NI, DILI ta HERO, Hisgot2x lang bah...:)

people may just defer...some are just so perky with life and wants all that glitters and all the positivity, and always choose to talk about it, then thats not a problem... If u like to talk about sosyalan malls, sosyalan nga mga brands nga mo-open sa city, well miski balik blik pa, its very ok... but some people, just like me can go down to the saddest, dramatic and the depressing side of life...the dark and the miserable human conditon, and still feel good afterwards... i dont know why some people cant handle it..hehehe!!! :lol::lol: ....still its about our differences and that we have to respect...:cheers:


^^Funny... you have consumed alot of pages in this thread... detailing your whims and caprices, whiling and grinding and all the litany of the ills of this government... then after all you are convinced that its still the GOVERNMENT IS THE SOLUTION!!!! :ohno::ohno::ohno: And i would say.. AMEN to that!!!

Yes.. this is a forum.. and we should also expect that not all people subscribed to our own beliefs.. lets just accept that sometimes we are just being too reactionary on anything....

Lets cheers to that.. :cheers:

diehardbisdak
February 10th, 2011, 05:00 PM
WOW! in Barili?! unsang dugaya na diay ni sir? anugon kung dili matinuod coz i really want Barili to be a world-class tourist destination. actually, daghan nindot adtuan sa Barili. its actually where i spent most of my toddler days. :D

^^ if i'm not mistaken bai, nag start sila'g advertise ana mga 2007 or 2008 pa or before pa siguro...until now, wala na ma'y news ani...

Barongoy
February 10th, 2011, 06:12 PM
WOW! in Barili?! unsang dugaya na diay ni sir? anugon kung dili matinuod coz i really want Barili to be a world-class tourist destination. actually, daghan nindot adtuan sa Barili. its actually where i spent most of my toddler days. :D

This place looks familiar. Mora ni ug in between Pinamungajan and Barili facing San Carlos, Negros Oriental. During the time of Congressman S. Osmena, there were no roads leading to this place. It is a beautiful piece of property. Before, magsakayan (or jetski from Japitan or Sayaw, Barili) ka to get to this beach.

Zuburbia
February 10th, 2011, 06:34 PM
^^Funny... you have consumed alot of pages in this thread... detailing your whims and caprices, whiling and grinding and all the litany of the ills of this government... then after all you are convinced that its still the GOVERNMENT IS THE SOLUTION!!!! :ohno::ohno::ohno: And i would say.. AMEN to that!!!

Yes.. this is a forum.. and we should also expect that not all people subscribed to our own beliefs.. lets just accept that sometimes we are just being too reactionary on anything....

Lets cheers to that.. :cheers:

haaay kakapoy pasabton...mao bitaw na ang akong dugay na gisturya... kay tungod ang sayop nga binuhatan or gubot nga pagdumala sa gobyerno ang problema, so unsa may solution? diba a sane and responsible government...mao nay buot pasabot sa akong giingon nga "GOBYERNO RAY SOLUTION" intyendes?
og ayaw kabalaka nga pila pa kapage ako maconsume, but-anay na diay ni ron? apil sa rules sa forum nga limitahan ang post? its about differences, choices and respect lagi, attack the issue and topic, not the person, and of how he thinks.. lami na baya tong kambyu-anay og sturya and views about MCDC, labi nato kang bai baka og ka sir Zid, until such time nga naa may gusto ipaputol ang esturya about ilang ideas of how to make a unified metro, kay murag samokan nga naabot nas yangongo sa gobyerno.... murag wa kauyon ba nya magbuot naman hinuon sa unsay hunahunaon sa taw, nga dili sige reklamo kuno, oi naunsyan bah di naman ta pasturyahon kay nagging na, sturya ra baya jud ta ani kay forum baya ni, and mostly are just recommendations... if dili kasakay og topic, pagmugna og lain nga pwede pod nato masturyahan, dili kay imo jung putlon in an instant ang momentum sa topic kay wa ka kauyon, mamatay raman na ang sturya naturally if naa napoy laing pagkainteresan ang mga forumer.. if u dont like the topic, as what i have said, u are always free to click on the next page, and reply to whats worthwhile for you, and that would make you happy..:) dili kay magbuot...di man gani na mamadlong ang MOds basta dili lang ka mangtroll...dili lagi nato dad-on atong pagka manager or pagka bossy diri! we are all equals...:)

Zuburbia
February 10th, 2011, 06:41 PM
There you go... That's what I'm talking about. Our current government now is lousy and is not strict or no political will but you just said this "i dont throw trash anywhere "

Did our government educate you with this? ("i dont throw trash anywhere ") Diba wala? So it means we also need the cooperation of our people like you who is cooperating by not throwing anywhere. You learned this in your school, not by our Government.

To be strict is a Government's work which is already considered as education, not to say to the people that throwing is bad but being strict is a kind of education of discipline.

But to educate (about good or bad) is not a government's work but instead of our school. We have our school to educate us about the basic things to do to make our community better;)

So kung STRICT na ang government but here's you nga pataka lag labay kay di man tanang panahon maka bantay ang strict nga government sa imong lihok, it's not the government's fault anymore, but it's the ordinary people's fault...

Same as in Singapore, STRICT na kaayo ilang government pero daghan man gihapon manglabang sa dan bisag stop pa ang pedestrian light. So ang sayop dili ang Singapore government but instead sayop na sa katawhan kay wa sila ni cooperate.

So it's not right nga government lang tanan ang mobuhat para mo lambo ang atong lugar, kinahanglan gyud mag tinabangay ang duha, Government and People...


Note lang basig di nasad kasabot, basig mag huros huros nasad ang dughan:D
Ang akong explanation above doesn't mean ni uyon nako sa ka lousy sa atong government karon. Ako lang giklaro ang relation sa Government and its People...:yes:

My grade as of now::D
Cebu LGU - 2.5/10
Cebu citizens - 6/10

sobra ra kaayo ka detalye...look at the over-all system of our government, kung maayo bah...

Zuburbia
February 10th, 2011, 06:52 PM
^^ it's MIRANILA Project bai...somewhere in Barili....dugay na kaayo ni nga project bai pero wala pa gyu'y further development...i believe it's already an approved Ecozone...here is the project overview:

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pic & text source: http://miranila.com/index.php



MiraNila

Miranila Cebu Philippines Asia real estate raw land project 850 hectares. Resort, golf, high technology, retail, speculative investment.

Overview

The MiraNila project is an impressive development project situated on The Philippines' most exciting island, Cebu.

•Five resort complexes
•Two championship golf courses
•Over 100 hectares of high-tech employment facilities
•A wide variety of housing opportunities for MiraNila and the nearby burgeoning towns of Toledo, Balamban, Carcar, Naga, San Carlos and San Fernando
•A comprehensive town center accomodating commercial, service, civic, medical facilities and cultural activities
•Retirement and resort/recreational facilities appealing to Cebu's international and domestic market
•A new major regional airport and seaport
•A university complex integrated with business and business park activities
•A Philippine-Asian Friendship Village as a major tourism attraction incorporating a tourism training center and nature camp facilities
•A sports complex, including world-class tennis courts for international competition

Comprising 1,200 hectares for near-term development and 2,800 hectares for mid-term development, MiraNila is an ambitious realestate project. Its location overlooking the Tañon Straight provides it with stunning views to Negros Island, 8 km of coastline, a world-class environmental framework and some of the most desirable property in The Philippines.

MiraNila is also open to individuals seeking to acquire land for investment and/or for residence & retirement. Just tell us what you're looking for and we'll get in contact with you to explain all the opportunities available in MiraNila.

http://miranila.com/images/accordion%2009_500x375.jpg

http://miranila.com/images/Project/Beach%20Resort.jpg

http://miranila.com/images/Project/Bay%20Bay%20Beach.jpg

http://miranila.com/images/Photos/Bojo%20Entrance%201.jpg

nindota gud ani nga part sa barili! daghana pa jud hidden wonders sa Cebu oi...karon pa ko kadiskobre da! naa diay white beach sa barili nga naas duol kay ag nindot og tin-aw kayo nga suba!!! nya green kaayo nga kabukiran og nice kaayo nga rock formation!!! nindot ni adto-on dah! pohon pohon!!! :banana:

Barongoy
February 10th, 2011, 07:45 PM
^^ it's MIRANILA Project bai...somewhere in Barili....dugay na kaayo ni nga project bai pero wala pa gyu'y further development...i believe it's already an approved Ecozone...here is the project overview:

***************



Comprising 1,200 hectares for near-term development and 2,800 hectares for mid-term development, MiraNila is an ambitious realestate project. Its location overlooking the Tañon Straight provides it with stunning views to Negros Island, 8 km of coastline, a world-class environmental framework and some of the most desirable property in The Philippines.



http://miranila.com/images/accordion%2009_500x375.jpg




This piece of property is in Pinamungajan not Barili, Cebu, both of which are under District 3, BTW.

mwg12a
February 10th, 2011, 07:48 PM
Im not sure if this has been posted here before. Borrowed it from @kiretoce's. I just love how they showcased Cebu in this video.

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D'Transporter
February 10th, 2011, 11:11 PM
hey slerz maybe u forget that we are ordinary citizens..we dont have the power to change the policies and the whole aspect of governance even with just our own baranggay..the whole problem is mismanagement, and management needs a manager, and whos the manager? its the government! naunsyan man ka oi, reality is we are just so small, we can be crushed like bugs in the ground at anytime! thats the system in a society, we need to be governed to be unified..and if the one that governs doesnt do what it needs to do then we all fall down! same as what you have said, almost all of the private sectors are doing well, and we are part of that private sector.. my family is doing a good business here in cebu, and im happy with my job and do my best to be better on my own... in that way we are already doing our part as citizens...but whats lacking is the good service that the government needs to provide to the whole, specially to the unfortunate and those who lost their ways(and its part of our relaity), to make everything harmonious and orderly....:) wala ta sa salida nga naay ordinaryong taw magpaka-hero para maoy moluwas sa humanity, we are in a real world and we need a sane government to fix our social, environmental, and most specially our urban problems...etc....
heres a really good song/lyrics from my favorite band...this expresses how we humans/ordinary citizens are...take a deep introspection on the lyrics and then you will realize the truth of what we are only capable off...heroes are in the movies, real humanity ends up hoping, ends up waiting, ends up spitting words....:) its not only cebu, its the world....:)



Bai, you sound like you are contented with what's going on around you. If majority of the citizens think like you do then the ability of Cebu to maximize it's full potential in terms of economic growth is doomed. I like what I'm seeing with Slerz coz he has admitted that something needs to be done and he is being vocal and confrontational about it. Slerz is being proactive in voicing his concerns and his ideas about how things can be done better. If more citizens think this way then it can create a stronger impact to the government's ability to do better.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 11th, 2011, 12:38 AM
^^ if i'm not mistaken bai, nag start sila'g advertise ana mga 2007 or 2008 pa or before pa siguro...until now, wala na ma'y news ani...

maoba?! kinsa kahay pwede nato mapangutanan ani no? kay ganahan gyud ko sa development for sure musikat gyud ang Barili ani. hehe....

This place looks familiar. Mora ni ug in between Pinamungajan and Barili facing San Carlos, Negros Oriental. During the time of Congressman S. Osmena, there were no roads leading to this place. It is a beautiful piece of property. Before, magsakayan (or jetski from Japitan or Sayaw, Barili) ka to get to this beach.

actually wala gyud ko kahinumdum sa bata pa ko nga nakaadto ko anang bahina sa Barili-Pinamungahan border even today.

magsakayan? unsa ni? isla diay ni? abi nakog naa ni sa mainland! hehe

nindota gud ani nga part sa barili! daghana pa jud hidden wonders sa Cebu oi...karon pa ko kadiskobre da! naa diay white beach sa barili nga naas duol kay ag nindot og tin-aw kayo nga suba!!! nya green kaayo nga kabukiran og nice kaayo nga rock formation!!! nindot ni adto-on dah! pohon pohon!!! :banana:

oo sir. daghan pa gyud mga nindot nga talanunon sa Barili. unsaon nga ang lungsod dili man pro-active in terms of tourism programs unlike sa ubang lungsod. kung culture and heritage ang hisgutan, daghan sad gyud mga karaang balay sa Barili nga mga nindot gyud. ang Bulok-Bulok Springs og Kawasan ra gyud ang permi i-bida sa taga Barili. sauna ang Bulok-Bulok tinaw pa kaayo na, bugnaw unya lami kaayo ikaligo pero karon, sus gilumot na lang, wala gyuy nakalimpyo. :ohno:

This piece of property is in Pinamungajan not Barili, Cebu, both of which are under District 3, BTW.

ayy, dili diay ni Barili sir? atots! :lol::nuts::hammer:

habagatcentral1
February 11th, 2011, 12:52 AM
Im not sure if this has been posted here before. Borrowed it from @kiretoce's. I just love how they showcased Cebu in this video.

Why was I surprised seeing Empoy on that vid? He's taking up film directorship at Bigfoot diay :D

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 11th, 2011, 01:24 AM
Im not sure if this has been posted here before. Borrowed it from @kiretoce's. I just love how they showcased Cebu in this video.

WOW! i really love the vid! Cebu indeed is the Philippines' bestseller! :okay:

Bisdako
February 11th, 2011, 02:24 AM
So it's not right nga government lang tanan ang mobuhat para mo lambo ang atong lugar, kinahanglan gyud mag tinabangay ang duha, Government and People...

My grade as of now::D
Cebu LGU - 2.5/10
Cebu citizens - 6/10

I absolutely agree...

allow me to give my view..from the central to local unit of governance and its citizens, cooperation is much and do their individual duties to show their love of the country and fellow citizens.

Parchie
February 11th, 2011, 03:08 AM
ayy, dili diay ni Barili sir? atots! :lol::nuts::hammer:

Bai, ug nakalingi ka ug tan-aw sa wall sa MCIA baggage carousel, naay picture diha nga lugar/river pero from a different angle; from the river source out to the sea --> Pimanungahan ang caption! Hasta ko, naglibog ug asa ni until kita ko sa river mouth! Nasubay na ni nako by boat from Sayaw Beach, Barili up to Pinamungahan and back during one of my beach outings with family! Ninnnddddooootttt gyud!

SleMarKen
February 11th, 2011, 03:18 AM
sobra ra kaayo ka detalye...look at the over-all system of our government, kung maayo bah...

ofcourse dili. tan awa ra gud akong grado. Di maayo kay wa man kaayo ni cooperate ang mga taw nya atong LGU's kutob ra man sa storya sa pagka karon.

Daan pa lagi ko, wa gyud kasabot.:D
Ang akong gi explain above kay gi quote gyud nimo sa atong current system. Nga ang current system nato ron di maayo kay wa man nag tinabangay so mao ning resulta ron... And our LGU's should double their efforts more than our people.

Ang gi explain nako above kay di man to atong current system, ang solusyon man to para matarong atong pang gobyerno karon...huh! :D

and right, it should be detailed para ma sakto gyud like if you will design a building nga it should be detailed para klaro og walay problema nga mahitabo:yes:

maygani na detailed kay wa raba koy ala bakasaurus nga utok...:D:lol:



@D' Transporter. right...ehehehe. Wa man sad nuon ta nagpaka hero. Diha nato makita of you are too concerned or just concerned.

bakasaurus
February 11th, 2011, 04:17 AM
@slerz: Ay sig kiat diha bai. Utok ni nga gamay sa gamay nga taw. Haha.

Thanks for pitching in mga bai. Sorry I was a bit busy and even today, kani ra sa ako mapost hehe. But our ideas are evolving through discourse (pasensya na kung naay sagol iningles bai, sultii lang ko kung hinambugero ra kaau ha hehe. Pero tungod ra pod ni sa atoang edukasyon mao nga dili kaayo gihapon ko kaexplicar og maayo kon dili ko muresort to english. mix mix lang, so it's something im not totally proud of. It's a handicap really). And although they're mere words, mga opinion ra og yawyaw they help us shape our thoughts and views which may later affect our actions being the thinking beings that we are. Maghunahuna baya ta usa mubuhat. Hehe.

Ang akoang stand is parehos bida sila Zubby og Slerz ani nga sitwasyon. Wala may contrabida nila og sa ila sad nga viewpoint. And Slerz, kanang magpakahero is COOL! That is the idea here that we have to relearn and spread and infect everyone with. Why have we come to a point nga being apathetic, ang kanang dili magpakabana ang cool? Nga ang magpakaHERO maoy corny og OA ra kaayo? That is a mentality that we have to throw away. In part, it is a deeply-rooted Filipino mentality, to want to disappear and blend with the crowd. Standing out is oftentimes considered as being arrogant and self-righteous. But again, that is what's plaguing us all over the country and that is why we are stuck in a rut. Kung dili nato mausab ni nga panlantaw, hinay gyud kaayoa ng atong kamang padung didto sa dapit nga dili na ta ma LOUSY.

So, we have in a way come to the point where we have to think about our role as "ordinary" citizens and that of the government. Are we truly a part of government? Tanan unta mutabang aron dili na ta maLOUSY..that's great! But how do we do that?

Ill give my "detailed" explanation sa akoang point unya. Adto sa ko dagat, hakot og balas og maglawg sa akoang mga lambay.

To be continued..




P.S. Kanang naa sa Pinamungajan nakaadto ako mga barkada didto last year. Naa pa gani na sila kayaking og ang ila local official or tag-iya ba to mismo ang niabi-abi nila.

Henz
February 11th, 2011, 04:22 AM
haaay kakapoy pasabton...mao bitaw na ang akong dugay na gisturya... kay tungod ang sayop nga binuhatan or gubot nga pagdumala sa gobyerno ang problema, so unsa may solution? diba a sane and responsible government...mao nay buot pasabot sa akong giingon nga "GOBYERNO RAY SOLUTION" intyendes?
og ayaw kabalaka nga pila pa kapage ako maconsume, but-anay na diay ni ron? apil sa rules sa forum nga limitahan ang post? its about differences, choices and respect lagi, attack the issue and topic, not the person, and of how he thinks.. lami na baya tong kambyu-anay og sturya and views about MCDC, labi nato kang bai baka og ka sir Zid, until such time nga naa may gusto ipaputol ang esturya about ilang ideas of how to make a unified metro, kay murag samokan nga naabot nas yangongo sa gobyerno.... murag wa kauyon ba nya magbuot naman hinuon sa unsay hunahunaon sa taw, nga dili sige reklamo kuno, oi naunsyan bah di naman ta pasturyahon kay nagging na, sturya ra baya jud ta ani kay forum baya ni, and mostly are just recommendations... if dili kasakay og topic, pagmugna og lain nga pwede pod nato masturyahan, dili kay imo jung putlon in an instant ang momentum sa topic kay wa ka kauyon, mamatay raman na ang sturya naturally if naa napoy laing pagkainteresan ang mga forumer.. if u dont like the topic, as what i have said, u are always free to click on the next page, and reply to whats worthwhile for you, and that would make you happy..:) dili kay magbuot...di man gani na mamadlong ang MOds basta dili lang ka mangtroll...dili lagi nato dad-on atong pagka manager or pagka bossy diri! we are all equals...:)

Randz.. morag ikaw wa kasabot... i think you are confused.

Unsa man diay imong description sa GOVERNMENT... I think you missed your point.... You better review and check the definition first...

Dont tell me na lisod ko pasabton.. because i think its the other way around.. :lol::lol:

Unya ayaw sad ug pamersonal bai... kay as you said this is a forum..

YOU OFFERED A PROPOSITION.. AND I AM PERSONALLY QUESTIONING YOU.. BECAUSE THIS IS A FORUM .. DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM ON THAT.. IS THAT BEING BOSSY TO YOU? I DONT THINK SO.. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND YOU BECAUSE YOU MISSED THE POINT AGAIN!!!

For the record, i most shared your opinion... i shared your views on almost everything against this government.... what i am trying to imply to you IS.. and i hope you will not be missing the point this time.. YOU HAVE SAID YOUR PIECE.......... NOW WHAT.......
We have been REACTIVE....... CAN WE NOW BE MORE PROACTIVE???

Simply ra kaayo na randz.. dili na dapat e intellectualize pa... ayaw lang pamersonal ok?

You make a proposition, then be prepared to take the heat!!!

Henz
February 11th, 2011, 04:26 AM
Bai, you sound like you are contented with what's going around you. If majority of the citizens think like you do then the ability of Cebu to maximize it's full potential in terms of economic growth is doomed. I like what I'm seeing with Slerz coz he has admitted that something needs to be done and he is being vocal and confrontational about it. Slerz is being proactive in voicing his concerns and his ideas about how things can be done better. If more citizens think this way then it can create a stronger impact to the government's ability to do better.


Exactly sir... this is what i mean.. PROACTIVE instead of being REACTIVE... :banana::banana::banana:

bakasaurus
February 11th, 2011, 04:41 AM
@ Henz, Slerz, Zub,
Mora ra man ni og storyahanay sa mga hubog ha? Walay tinud-anay nga away? Enjoy lang tas lalis-lalis haha. Usahay naay pikhanay, pero walay pikonay.

diehardbisdak
February 11th, 2011, 04:44 AM
Im not sure if this has been posted here before. Borrowed it from @kiretoce's. I just love how they showcased Cebu in this video.

yes bai, many threads ago... :okay: thanks for reposting...i love watching it again and again...

Henz
February 11th, 2011, 05:02 AM
@ Henz, Slerz, Zub,
Mora ra man ni og storyahanay sa mga hubog ha? Walay tinud-anay nga away? Enjoy lang tas lalis-lalis haha. Usahay naay pikhanay, pero walay pikonay.

hehehe.. of course not...... as we said.. this is only a forum..:)
what had been said in the forum.. shall remain in the forum... :cheers:

diehardbisdak
February 11th, 2011, 05:03 AM
Why was I surprised seeing Empoy on that vid? He's taking up film directorship at Bigfoot diay :D

hahhaha...dili 'to si Empoy oy! look-a-like lang...it's Remton Zuasola, the award winning new generation film director who won in 2009 Cinemanila International Film Festival for best short film and also his Stop-Motion animation film “Mga Damgo” won the Animation Category for the Cine Indie for MDG, a national short film competition aimed at promoting the Millennium Development Goals set by the United Nations... :okay: he also won twice in Sinulog short film festival in 2009 & 2010.... :okay:

SleMarKen
February 11th, 2011, 05:04 AM
@slerz: Ay sig kiat diha bai. Utok ni nga gamay sa gamay nga taw. Haha.

Thanks for pitching in mga bai. Sorry I was a bit busy and even today, kani ra sa ako mapost hehe. But our ideas are evolving through discourse (pasensya na kung naay sagol iningles bai, sultii lang ko kung hinambugero ra kaau ha hehe. Pero tungod ra pod ni sa atoang edukasyon mao nga dili kaayo gihapon ko kaexplicar og maayo kon dili ko muresort to english. mix mix lang, so it's something im not totally proud of. It's a handicap really). And although they're mere words, mga opinion ra og yawyaw they help us shape our thoughts and views which may later affect our actions being the thinking beings that we are. Maghunahuna baya ta usa mubuhat. Hehe.

Ang akoang stand is parehos bida sila Zubby og Slerz ani nga sitwasyon. Wala may contrabida nila og sa ila sad nga viewpoint. And Slerz, kanang magpakahero is COOL! That is the idea here that we have to relearn and spread and infect everyone with. Why have we come to a point nga being apathetic, ang kanang dili magpakabana ang cool? Nga ang magpakaHERO maoy corny og OA ra kaayo? That is a mentality that we have to throw away. In part, it is a deeply-rooted Filipino mentality, to want to disappear and blend with the crowd. Standing out is oftentimes considered as being arrogant and self-righteous. But again, that is what's plaguing us all over the country and that is why we are stuck in a rut. Kung dili nato mausab ni nga panlantaw, hinay gyud kaayoa ng atong kamang padung didto sa dapit nga dili na ta ma LOUSY.

So, we have in a way come to the point where we have to think about our role as "ordinary" citizens and that of the government. Are we truly a part of government? Tanan unta mutabang aron dili na ta maLOUSY..that's great! But how do we do that?

Ill give my "detailed" explanation sa akoang point unya. Adto sa ko dagat, hakot og balas og maglawg sa akoang mga lambay.

To be continued..




P.S. Kanang naa sa Pinamungajan nakaadto ako mga barkada didto last year. Naa pa gani na sila kayaking og ang ila local official or tag-iya ba to mismo ang niabi-abi nila.

honestly nindot kaayo paminawn atong panag bikil diri. @Dong Ranz, @Henz, @Baka and me are just truthful enough. Kani tanan ato usa ra ka aim... is JUST FOR CEBU coz we care for CEBU coz there are still a lot of works to be done really for Cebu to become more SOMEONE to the world.

Ok ra kaayo nang mag away ta para sa kaayohan kaysa mag away ta tungod kay we insist that we're the best...:okay:

Sometimes ok ra nang OA sad nuon basta naay unod nga tarog ang tumog...ehehehe

:cheers:

Barongoy
February 11th, 2011, 05:38 AM
actually wala gyud ko kahinumdum sa bata pa ko nga nakaadto ko anang bahina sa Barili-Pinamungahan border even today.

magsakayan? unsa ni? isla diay ni? abi nakog naa ni sa mainland! hehe



oo sir. daghan pa gyud mga nindot nga talanunon sa Barili. unsaon nga ang lungsod dili man pro-active in terms of tourism programs unlike sa ubang lungsod. kung culture and heritage ang hisgutan, daghan sad gyud mga karaang balay sa Barili nga mga nindot gyud. ang Bulok-Bulok Springs og Kawasan ra gyud ang permi i-bida sa taga Barili. sauna ang Bulok-Bulok tinaw pa kaayo na, bugnaw unya lami kaayo ikaligo pero karon, sus gilumot na lang, wala gyuy nakalimpyo. :ohno:



Naa ni sa mainland. Mga 20 years ago, walai sakyanan makasulod diri and medyo layu sa main road. Ubai2x mi nanuroi diri, mostly cousins, so our aunt hired one of the fishing boats from Japitan (a fishing village in Barili) to accommodate us all and we also brought 2 jetskis which we launched sa Sayaw beach. Back then, it was rumored na developon kuno ni former Congressman Sonny Osmena.

I know what you mean. Barili has a lot of potentials but it is very unfortunate and disappointing, wala maau pagka.tagad.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 11th, 2011, 07:46 AM
^^ so naa nay dalan paingon didto sir? sus wala gyud ko magdahom nga naa diay ingon ana dihang dapita! i hope wala ni gikalimtan kay anugon gyud kaayo!

Bai, ug nakalingi ka ug tan-aw sa wall sa MCIA baggage carousel, naay picture diha nga lugar/river pero from a different angle; from the river source out to the sea --> Pimanungahan ang caption! Hasta ko, naglibog ug asa ni until kita ko sa river mouth! Nasubay na ni nako by boat from Sayaw Beach, Barili up to Pinamungahan and back during one of my beach outings with family! Ninnnddddooootttt gyud!

maoba sir?! sooo gipromote na diay ni siya? dugay na man gud ko wala ka sulod sa airport sir. di man gud ko jetsetter! :D

ganahan lagi ko muduaw aning lugara! :okay:

sugbuanon
February 11th, 2011, 08:23 AM
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leylander
February 11th, 2011, 08:31 AM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC03778.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC03784.jpg



wow, nice! good idea gyud nga diha nila gitukod ang new terminal. ug mas good idea pud nga ingon ani ka nindot ang new terminal. hehe.

thanks for the pics @sugbuanon! :)

diehardbisdak
February 11th, 2011, 08:37 AM
^^ looks fresh & clean :okay: thanks sa pics bai @marvs!

Henz
February 11th, 2011, 09:10 AM
dili lage naku makita ang pic.. huhuhu

concern
February 11th, 2011, 09:40 AM
GLEE made their own version of Thriller by the Dancing Inmates :okay:
It's a prison but endorsed in a school as a good example to follow.:cheers:
Mt_5aqEvbb0

"Remember a few years ago when that Philippine prison did that mega performance of Thriller and put it on Youtube? Now in the 4 months it took to rehearse that number, prisoner on prisoner crime dropped 80%. Doing that, together, as a team, created unity inside that prison," said: will

majaba98
February 11th, 2011, 11:54 AM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC03785.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC03782.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC03788.jpg

Really nice shots Sugbuanon, thanks ! Wonder when the windows will come in on that Hong Kong hotel.

majaba98
February 11th, 2011, 11:59 AM
MiraNila

Miranila Cebu Philippines Asia real estate raw land project 850 hectares. Resort, golf, high technology, retail, speculative investment.


http://miranila.com/images/Project/Beach%20Resort.jpg

So now they are off to mass tourism like in Thailand. What a shame, the charm of Philippine blend and culture will be lost this way. Hopefully this project will not find further similar start-ups. We should focus on on the Palawan or Panglao island-resort style.

NewTown
February 11th, 2011, 01:36 PM
wow thanks... wala raba ko kabalo ana... ako baw-an kay dili daw na lig-on mao wala gamita...


Actually, lig-on ang building, otherwise, dili tagaan ang Mc-Donalds na naa sa ground floor ng occupancy permit ng City Hall kong dilikado ang building. Siempre, sure ang Mc-Donalds na dili mamilegro ang fast food ug mga customers nila in case naay intensity 7 nga linog.

Akong pagtuo, wala ma-impas ng owner ang loan obligation sa banko mao nga gi-imbargo ang property bisan wala pa matapos ang interior niini ug siempre ibaligya sa uban para mabayaran ang utang.

hakhaimo
February 11th, 2011, 02:01 PM
^^ this is not a real project proposal bai...lingaw-lingaw ra ni sa mga 3D enthusiasts in SSC :okay: ...the guy who made it is part of the group who also created CEBU CITY STADIUM in Mactan :lol:

Actually I made and designed that one... :lol::bash: (check my signature)

Are you referring to ugoki? :)


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC03785.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC03782.jpg



What is the function of the building in blue and green? The third one, as far as I know is a hotel..

NewTown
February 11th, 2011, 02:07 PM
Family dispute Sir :yes:


Kahibudngan kay naa man gud ang Mc-Donalds fast food diha ug kung naay family dispute na wala pa ma-resolve, dili unta mo put up ang Mc-Donalds sa ilang negosyo sa anang building kay mag ka problema lang unya sila. Dili sad maayo segun sa mga Fung-Shui experts.

Akong pagtuo, dunay dakong utang ang tag-iya sa banko nga wala mabayre o ma-impas pagbayad mao nga gi-imbargo ang property bisan wala pa matapos ang interior niini para mabaligya sa uban. Siguro, gipa rent out ng banko ang gamay na space sa ground floor sa Mc-Donalds, in the meantime nga naghuwat ang banko ug buyer.

Daizuke
February 11th, 2011, 02:53 PM
^^ Since grade school pko nahuman ng buildinga wla pa jud kakita og buyer hangtud karun?? if mao man gane na ang reason.. That area is a prime location, impossible kau og wlay mopalit.. So probably naa jud dispute.. Mau unta oi ma ok nana, nindot bya na in fairness ng buildinga

ceboom
February 11th, 2011, 03:04 PM
Actually sayop ang sulti sa tanan. Walay family problem, walay utang sa bangko. The truth is ill gotten wealth under investigation sila sa BIR kay asa sila nikuha og kwarta that time na wala mag agi og loan then sa ilang statement of assets og income tax gamay ra kaayo ila gibayaran. I hope na enlightened na ang tanan.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 11th, 2011, 03:57 PM
wow, nice! good idea gyud nga diha nila gitukod ang new terminal. ug mas good idea pud nga ingon ani ka nindot ang new terminal. hehe.

thanks for the pics @sugbuanon! :)

nindot man gyud ang new terminal building sir. ang ubos lang medjo init. :)

nice photos sir @sugbuanon. :okay:

bakasaurus
February 11th, 2011, 04:51 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5294/5436512138_e33ae4ec7c_b.jpg

SineBuano
February 11th, 2011, 05:09 PM
Asa ma ni dapit.

AmbutLang
February 11th, 2011, 06:45 PM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC03778.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC03784.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC03785.jpg



Thanks sa mga pix. Nagka guapa na ang Grand Cenia. :banana2:

flesh_is_weak
February 11th, 2011, 07:14 PM
re:miranila: it's not that much of a loss, the building looked hideous anyway :lol:

Zuburbia
February 11th, 2011, 07:21 PM
honestly nindot kaayo paminawn atong panag bikil diri. @Dong Ranz, @Henz, @Baka and me are just truthful enough. Kani tanan ato usa ra ka aim... is JUST FOR CEBU coz we care for CEBU coz there are still a lot of works to be done really for Cebu to become more SOMEONE to the world.

Ok ra kaayo nang mag away ta para sa kaayohan kaysa mag away ta tungod kay we insist that we're the best...:okay:

Sometimes ok ra nang OA sad nuon basta naay unod nga tarog ang tumog...ehehehe

:cheers:

mao ni nakanindot sa tanan!!! hehehe! mwah! all for Cebu, the Philippines!!!:cheers: :)

Zuburbia
February 11th, 2011, 07:29 PM
MiraNila

Miranila Cebu Philippines Asia real estate raw land project 850 hectares. Resort, golf, high technology, retail, speculative investment.


http://miranila.com/images/Project/Beach%20Resort.jpg

So now they are off to mass tourism like in Thailand. What a shame, the charm of Philippine blend and culture will be lost this way. Hopefully this project will not find further similar start-ups. We should focus on on the Palawan or Panglao island-resort style.

i agree :cheers:

habagatcentral1
February 12th, 2011, 12:25 AM
Latin America?
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181637_164868696893604_104141716299636_344879_8301617_n.jpg

Nope...
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/168919_164868726893601_104141716299636_344880_1557339_n.jpg

Bus
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168399_164868906893583_104141716299636_344889_3601571_n.jpg

Jeep
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180759_164868983560242_104141716299636_344892_5347738_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/181802_164869020226905_104141716299636_344893_2626541_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167560_164869040226903_104141716299636_344894_495385_n.jpg

Asa ni padung? :D
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/179815_164869056893568_104141716299636_344895_8103308_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180438_164869140226893_104141716299636_344897_2097252_n.jpg

Pier 3
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181559_164869260226881_104141716299636_344901_8240892_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168965_164869290226878_104141716299636_344902_2861675_n.jpg

In Ilonggo, this has a different meaning...:D (Please, only ants are allowed in the line) :D
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180130_164869333560207_104141716299636_344905_403034_n.jpg

There's my ferry
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/168049_164869406893533_104141716299636_344907_3322720_n.jpg

habagatcentral1
February 12th, 2011, 12:27 AM
Latin America?
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181637_164868696893604_104141716299636_344879_8301617_n.jpg

Nope...
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/168919_164868726893601_104141716299636_344880_1557339_n.jpg

Bus
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168399_164868906893583_104141716299636_344889_3601571_n.jpg

Jeep
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180759_164868983560242_104141716299636_344892_5347738_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/181802_164869020226905_104141716299636_344893_2626541_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167560_164869040226903_104141716299636_344894_495385_n.jpg

Asa ni padung? :D
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/179815_164869056893568_104141716299636_344895_8103308_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180438_164869140226893_104141716299636_344897_2097252_n.jpg

Pier 3
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181559_164869260226881_104141716299636_344901_8240892_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168965_164869290226878_104141716299636_344902_2861675_n.jpg

In Ilonggo, this has a different meaning...:D (Please, only ants are allowed in the line) :D
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180130_164869333560207_104141716299636_344905_403034_n.jpg

There's my ferry
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/168049_164869406893533_104141716299636_344907_3322720_n.jpg

habagatcentral1
February 12th, 2011, 12:36 AM
Coastal Cebu City and Mandaue

The ships from Pier 4 onwards
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167649_164869450226862_104141716299636_344908_2438303_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180296_164869536893520_104141716299636_344911_394837_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179835_164869556893518_104141716299636_344912_6049754_n.jpg

The Fuente towers
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181092_164869590226848_104141716299636_344913_6018609_n.jpg

Cats
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179052_164869610226846_104141716299636_344914_5320863_n.jpg

The cranes
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167736_164869646893509_104141716299636_344915_4539488_n.jpg

Trans-Asia Fleet
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/166802_164870013560139_104141716299636_344919_7585653_n.jpg

Sulpicio
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179830_164870086893465_104141716299636_344922_7805052_n.jpg

The ferry
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179345_164870096893464_104141716299636_344923_3171190_n.jpg

Pier 3 from afar
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/167752_164870136893460_104141716299636_344924_6608320_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/179846_164870180226789_104141716299636_344925_6128133_n.jpg

IT Park
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181434_164870286893445_104141716299636_344928_7885322_n.jpg

The ferry and Cebu
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167234_164870380226769_104141716299636_344931_3712619_n.jpg

SuperFerry is leaving port
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/167691_164870403560100_104141716299636_344932_967795_n.jpg

La Industria
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/181671_164870563560084_104141716299636_344937_7352188_n.jpg

Fish!
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181884_164870620226745_104141716299636_344939_4969013_n.jpg

CebuDoc and Cebu Boardwalk Mall (whatever happened to this mall? Nauna pa ang Parkmall sa pag-abli)
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181037_164870660226741_104141716299636_344940_5550798_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/166678_164870686893405_104141716299636_344941_7076564_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168466_164870866893387_104141716299636_344948_2037545_n.jpg

The old and the new
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/168650_164870910226716_104141716299636_344950_6436606_n.jpg

Disembarking
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180615_164871040226703_104141716299636_344956_5154138_n.jpg

I wish they use this more often...
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179478_164871063560034_104141716299636_344957_2344132_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/180180_164871083560032_104141716299636_344958_3154109_n.jpg

Welcome sa Opon!
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179428_164871130226694_104141716299636_344960_4452836_n.jpg

Dapit Opon Mercado
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168661_164871213560019_104141716299636_344964_1790824_n.jpg

SleMarKen
February 12th, 2011, 04:13 AM
Feb-2011

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4089/fuente11feb1.jpg

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/8101/fuente11feb2.jpg

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5430/fuente11feb3.jpg

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/2811/fuente11feb4.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5859/fuente11feb5.jpg

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9294/fuente11feb6.jpg

Henz
February 12th, 2011, 05:01 AM
Wow.. Great pics guys.. @ HABAGATCENTRAL, SUGBUANON & SLEMARKEN.... :)

THIS IS WHAT WE REALLY CALL AS THE CELEBRATION OF CEBU'S DEVELOPMENT!!!:banana::banana::banana:

zubuwood
February 12th, 2011, 06:15 AM
Photos by dbgg1979's Photostream

CEBU is No.1 Because we are one :)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4901351182_28748f4662_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/5077684046_603f33ce84_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4154/5059062004_a3e6eafe90_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/5025523860_0122d17c78_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5025522002_0532ce8531_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3293/4557072961_83ed38327b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3317/4557065987_3b62eeaf4a_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4519620577_9bbf36e380_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2798/4520186922_342f4632ee_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4520119758_04a140bbbc_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2736/4520116842_a29f2057f8_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4516678941_eb75408841_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4516671011_49b5952f15_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4517224306_2468cdbb38_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2677/4516536835_a527f04840_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4445934292_78dd111d32_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2751/4445930392_2c42ce4cc3_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4445076819_070dd5507c_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4445070541_48cf192381_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4445847294_88e309ebbc_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4445841976_090ae67874_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4438503708_d44d986abf_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4434804507_8ea66b106b_z.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2795/4431204477_966229cda2_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4431965080_ac656ed45a_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2713/4431959142_d86ee0ecf8_b.jpg

SineBuano
February 12th, 2011, 06:18 AM
Again thanks for the nice set of pics @ HABAGATCENTRAL, SUGBUANON & SLEMARKEN .

cebuboi
February 12th, 2011, 06:51 AM
d/p

cebuboi
February 12th, 2011, 06:53 AM
[QUOTE=habagatcentral1;72468757]Latin America?

Asa ni padung? :D
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/179815_164869056893568_104141716299636_344895_8103308_n.jpg



^^guadalupe na siya padulong bai...particularly andres abellana.

nice shots bai...

no.1ta
February 12th, 2011, 07:03 AM
kadaghanan sa atong mga barko dire kinahanglan na gyud scrap, it doesn't look good anymore...thanks sa pics. mga bai.:)

concern
February 12th, 2011, 07:44 AM
Photos by dbgg1979's Photostream

CEBU is No.1 Because we are one :)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4901351182_28748f4662_z.jpg


where did you get this photo bai? :cheers:
hala akong uyab naa sa likod. :lol: (FACC inter club meet - KPC)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
February 12th, 2011, 07:53 AM
Photos by dbgg1979's Photostream

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5025522002_0532ce8531_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3317/4557065987_3b62eeaf4a_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4520119758_04a140bbbc_b.jpg


kanindot sa mga hulagway! Celebrate Cebu!!!! :cheers::cheers::cheers:

BULLDOG
February 12th, 2011, 08:01 AM
[QUOTE=habagatcentral1;72468757]Latin America?

Asa ni padung? :D
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/179815_164869056893568_104141716299636_344895_8103308_n.jpg



^^guadalupe na siya padulong bai...particularly andres abellana.

nice shots bai...:bash::bash::bash:


na appreciate kuno pero diay gi pokpok :ohno: :lol:

SineBuano
February 12th, 2011, 08:11 AM
Ambivalent seguro ang feeling.

cebuboi
February 12th, 2011, 10:26 AM
oppppppsssss my bad ....i was actually clicking the cheers button but unknowingly i click that one instead...'till the time you made the remark i did not notice...sorry @bernie aka habagat...

12jairien14
February 12th, 2011, 10:33 AM
Photos by dbgg1979's Photostream

CEBU is No.1 Because we are one :)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4901351182_28748f4662_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/5077684046_603f33ce84_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4154/5059062004_a3e6eafe90_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/5025523860_0122d17c78_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5025522002_0532ce8531_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3293/4557072961_83ed38327b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3317/4557065987_3b62eeaf4a_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4519620577_9bbf36e380_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2798/4520186922_342f4632ee_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4520119758_04a140bbbc_b.jpg

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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4516678941_eb75408841_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4516671011_49b5952f15_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4517224306_2468cdbb38_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2677/4516536835_a527f04840_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4445934292_78dd111d32_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2751/4445930392_2c42ce4cc3_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4445076819_070dd5507c_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4445070541_48cf192381_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4445847294_88e309ebbc_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4445841976_090ae67874_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4438503708_d44d986abf_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4434804507_8ea66b106b_z.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2795/4431204477_966229cda2_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4431965080_ac656ed45a_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2713/4431959142_d86ee0ecf8_b.jpg
^^
pwede ko ba ito ipost sa Southeast Asia - Your Country's Second City?
^^

SleMarKen
February 12th, 2011, 10:48 AM
^^sure... wag lang yung 1st pic...:okay:

boy muscovado
February 12th, 2011, 10:58 AM
^^sure... wag lang yung 1st pic...:okay:

hahahaha.....si madam

12jairien14
February 12th, 2011, 11:19 AM
^^sure... wag lang yung 1st pic...:okay:
^^
HAHAH
okay
LOL
:lol::lol::lol:

SleMarKen
February 12th, 2011, 11:28 AM
by @Marcie258

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1262/nautilusjpgrender1.jpg

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twIco
February 12th, 2011, 12:03 PM
^^nice but in my opinion, nabitin ko.

SleMarKen
February 12th, 2011, 12:05 PM
^^inguna ana man gyud na Sir basta kakita naka daan sa design sa una pa...ehehe

Henz
February 12th, 2011, 01:21 PM
I dont know whats this.. but i've seen this in Jones.. a couple of tourists wearing red dresses... hehehe.. is this a celebration of Valentines?

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1198/dsc04840y.jpg

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SleMarKen
February 12th, 2011, 01:27 PM
^^ehehehe.. ka cute:D

SleMarKen
February 12th, 2011, 01:34 PM
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more tourists roaming around the city...:okay:
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http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2557/cbppics2b.jpg

BULLDOG
February 12th, 2011, 01:37 PM
I dont know whats this.. but i've seen this in Jones.. a couple of tourists wearing red dresses... hehehe.. is this a celebration of Valentines?

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1198/dsc04840y.jpg

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2162/dsc04841sl.jpg

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2162/dsc04841sl.jpg

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/6858/dsc04838s.jpg


:lol: :lol: hehehe ka lurkie....:lol:

NewTown
February 12th, 2011, 02:41 PM
I dont know whats this.. but i've seen this in Jones.. a couple of tourists wearing red dresses... hehehe.. is this a celebration of Valentines?

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1198/dsc04840y.jpg

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2162/dsc04841sl.jpg

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2162/dsc04841sl.jpg

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/6858/dsc04838s.jpg

Looks like mga transvestite ni sila?

Henz
February 12th, 2011, 03:24 PM
Morag dili man.. actually kana mga Pinay na ila kuyog mora ila nang mga asawa.. unya dili sad na sila bayot manlihok... .. hehehe

After diha sa gawas nanulod na sila sa "Silver Dollar" bikini bar..

-sharkleman125-
February 12th, 2011, 03:39 PM
Re: SM-SRP
ganiha bai pag agi nko sa srp ganiha buntag kay wla pa'y tarpaulin about sa SM-SRP.
bag-o pa jud na gi butang... Sakto na wla pa'y real name sa project gi-codename pa na..

diehardbisdak
February 12th, 2011, 04:14 PM
^^ nice pics @slerz...

re: men wearing red dress...looks like it's a gimmickry of Silver Dollar! ...Amateur night! :lol:

diehardbisdak
February 12th, 2011, 04:20 PM
Re: according sa official website, SILVER DOLLAR is FOR SALE!

paging....Mr. King! if you are interested, please call tel # 2542311or email at silverdollarbarcebu@hotmail.com :lol:

SleMarKen
February 12th, 2011, 05:06 PM
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Henz
February 12th, 2011, 05:33 PM
Uy naunsa naman atong agreement guys?

kenken94
February 12th, 2011, 05:35 PM
Uy naunsa naman atong agreement guys?

oh sige Mr. President....... you'll hear from me no more. :)

SydOZTa-Bacnon
February 12th, 2011, 07:30 PM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182754_1857684402844_1262881723_32263083_4801013_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=32263118&id=1262881723)


http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/180727_1857693643075_1262881723_32263125_7903388_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=32263126&id=1262881723)


http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/182206_1857688442945_1262881723_32263118_2948358_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=32263085&id=1262881723)

ceboom
February 13th, 2011, 12:56 AM
Timberland eyed for theme park
By Jessica Ann R. Pareja/WAB (The Freeman) Updated February 13, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (1)

CEBU, Philippines - About 179 hectares of timberland inside the Central Cebu Protected Landscape is being eyed by the Cebu City Government to be developed into a theme park, a new destination and attraction for local and foreign tourists here.

The area, which is within the boundary of Barangay Toong and Poblacion Pardo, is just a few kilometers away from the city proper and is very accessible to visitors, officials said.

Councilor Jose Daluz III said the Cebu City Hillyland Management Board has identified the area, which is just behind Alta Vista Resort and Golf Course, as timberland which if they want to use, requires permission from the environment department.

Since it is part of the CCPL, a Special use Agreements for Protected Areas (SAPA) must be secured from the DENR.

SAPA is a binding instrument between the DENR through the Protected Area Management Board allowing groups, any of the indigenous peoples, tenured migrants, local government units, government agencies and other stakeholders such as corporations, cooperatives, business entities and NGOs to co-manage a protected area through special use agreements.

This permit is granted provided that the applicant will be a partner by the government in protecting the area.

The 29,063-hectare CCPL is declared a protected area because it serves as the basin of the whole island.

About 22 of the cityÆs mountain barangays are within the CCPL. These are barangays Lusaran, Adlawon, Cambinucot, Agsungot, Mabini, Paril, Tagbao, Guba, Sirao, Sapang Daku, Babag, Pung-ol Sibugay, Taptap, Sinsin, Toong, Buhisan, Pamutan, Buot-Taup, Sudlon I and II, Bonbon and Tabunan.

Daluz said they will secure all the permits necessary within the year to start the development soon.

The area they identified will be divided into parcels of lot which will be developed by different private companies and non-government agencies or any entity interested.

Daluz assured they would allow only developments that will not destroy or alter but rather help preserve the environment.

He is envisioning a flower farm, a butterfly farm, a bird sanctuary, a mini diverse forest and the likes.

The city will be tapping private companies like SM Prime Holdings, San Miguel Corporation and Aboitiz Group of Companies, among others to develop the area.

Daluz said the city might provide incentives to participating private sectors like a tax holiday for five years and other forms of incentives possible.

Once they get the permit, Daluz added they will start creating a road network and will fence the area.

The councilor however said he is yet to get the approval of the mayor on the proposed project. - (THE FREEMAN)

Jarenz
February 13th, 2011, 01:03 AM
^^ nice

ceboom
February 13th, 2011, 01:06 AM
Shangri-La Mactan’s not-so-secret garden
By Cris Evert Lato
Inquirer Visayas
First Posted 18:09:00 02/12/2011


LAPU-LAPU CITY – It may be best known as one of Cebu’s top resorts, but Shangri-La’s Mactan Resort and Spa has a little “secret” – a nursery-garden.

The nursery spans 2,300 square meters and houses a variety of vegetables, herbs and ornamental plants from okra and sage to Pacifica palm.

“The nursery serves as the place where the plants are acclimatize so they will get used to the environment when we plant them in the permanent area. This is one advantage of having an in-house nursery,” says Cirilo Alerta, Shangri-La’s service leader of flora and fauna.

The garden started in 1993 when the resort opened in Lapu-Lapu City. It first housed ornamental and flowering plants, such as San Francisco, Pacifica palm, San Siberia, McArthur palm, santan, birds of paradise, Doña Aurora and Shanghai Beauty.

Vegetables

Later, it started growing vegetables, such as lady finger (okra), string beans, eggplant and red lettuce. The vegetables are delivered directly to the staff’s kitchen and used in the dishes served to the employees.

In June last year, the list of plants expanded to herbs, such as sweet basil, lemon mint, peppermint, dill, marjoram, oregano, bean leaves, thyme, sage and parsley.

“These herbs are also delivered to our vegetable and fruit commissary, where our restaurants in the resort get their supplies so these herbs are utilized by our restaurants,” says Alerta, who is assisted by two gardeners, Servando Aying and Canoto Franco.
A graduate of Sudlon Agricultural School (now Cebu State College of Science and Technology), Alerta started out as a resort gardener in 1993.

He is the green thumb behind the growth of the garden, which is now included in the resort’s list of places to visit, according to corporate social responsibility manager Malou Gerra.

“Garden visit is already part of the resort tour for our guests. The garden visit is also part of our educational tour for children,” says Gerra, who works closely with Alerta in implementing eco-friendly programs in the resort and in encouraging fellow employees to adopt environment-related practices in their homes.

“By visiting our garden, they would know what the role of earthworms in our ecosystem. This is one way of educating the children, the young generation who doesn’t get to be exposed to this type of environment now,” she adds.

Composting

The resort is practicing vermicomposting, a method of turning waste into nutrient-rich fertilizer by utilizing earthworms, particularly African night crawlers.

Shangri-La Mactan started its own vermicomposting chamber in 2008. It benchmarked with the best practice of Barrio Luz, spearheaded then by barangay councilor and now Cebu City Councilor Nida Cabrera. It also sought the help of a consultant from the Philippine Business for Social Progress (PBSP).

Gerra says the chamber is still in its experimental stage and is able to hold 800 kilos of waste. Even then, the practice has been reaping fruits.

Vermi compost harvest reached a total of 3,150 kilos from February 2009 to September last year, worth P31,500. The resort also harvested more than 100 kilos of African night crawlers, worth P1,100 per kilo.

“People are surprised that we have this in the resort. This delivers the message that we not just selling hotel service, which Shangri-La has always been known to deliver well. We are also conscious on what we impact to the environment,” Gerra says.

The resort is also training its staff to be environment-friendly in their homes.

It is extending its knowledge in waste management to the neighboring Barangay (village) Tingo on Olango Island.

Alerta says the resort has partnered with the barangay council and the parents-teachers association of the school in Tingo to practice vermicomposting.

The organic fertilizer will be utilized in the expanded garden. Students are already planting kangkong and malunggay to jump-start their own backyard gardens.

Gains

Aside from these initiatives, the resort has hosted twice the Go Green Cebu, a two-day conference on environment that brings together corporate, government and non-government officials to engage in discussions and forums on how their organizations affect nature.

The first was held in March 2009 and the second, in October 2010.

This love for the environment earned for Shangri-La Mactan the Asean Green Hotel Award recently.

But more than any award, Gerra says its primary responsibility is to remain committed to its promise of taking care for the environment as part of its competitive edge.

“This is good information to share to our guests that we have this (environment initiative) in our resort. Before we would contact a service provider to dispose our waste. But since 2008, we’ve been working on managing our waste and this allowed the resort to save money,” Gerra says.

habagatcentral1
February 13th, 2011, 01:24 AM
hahhaha...dili 'to si Empoy oy! look-a-like lang...it's Remton Zuasola, the award winning new generation film director who won in 2009 Cinemanila International Film Festival for best short film and also his Stop-Motion animation film “Mga Damgo” won the Animation Category for the Cine Indie for MDG, a national short film competition aimed at promoting the Millennium Development Goals set by the United Nations... :okay: he also won twice in Sinulog short film festival in 2009 & 2010.... :okay:

LOL! Murag si Empoy jud iya nawung ato, hehehe!!! :lol: Thanks for the FYI. :)

PINOYmeat
February 13th, 2011, 02:37 AM
i remember the first few months and years of SSC cebu, kapuyon na lang na silag pangaway sa cebu kay wa man gyuy mutagad ana nila. naa pa si marvin nga kada naay mutira sa cebu ang i reply kay mga pics that show cebu's progress. aw magbitay gyud ang laway sa trolls lagi. mao to sa una, posts in cebu thread are "quality" posts gyud. ug wa gyud na lock ang cebu thread that time.

blessed rainy sunday morning to everyone!

Henz
February 13th, 2011, 03:45 AM
fellows... be careful sad tag pag "label" sa mga newbies ug "troll" kay what if dili diay na sya troll.. so ang mahitabo ma offend intawn mga newbies nato....

although bag-o na ang mga tactics karon sa mga troll.. maybe we cant identify them at first but for sure we will...

so refrain lang usa tag accuse ug "troll" although we can suspect it. let us give lang usa ug benefit of the doubt... mahibaw an ra gihapon nato na...

for all newbies, i suggests na paila sad to mo maski gamay lang.. before posting reactions etc.

bulbasaur
February 13th, 2011, 03:45 AM
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1433/cbppics5.jpg

Ask lang ko, unsa diay ni siya nga building? Almost everyday ko kaagi ani. Call center ni siya?

MatudNilaBaby
February 13th, 2011, 03:48 AM
palihug ug repost sa pix sa citta de mari alongside sa sm srp para matuki nato kon unsay mga features aning two giant investors sa srp kaysa magsige ta ug deal anang mga trolls from a jealous city. i feel like there's a conflict between the high rises of sm and midrises of filinvest. ug akoy dunay kuwarta, asa man ko invest aning duha?

Antediluvian
February 13th, 2011, 06:23 AM
I wish Cebu has the following:

1) A health care park. It is somewhat like Asiatown I.T. Park, but it houses hospitals, clinics, spas and health salons, medical schools, BPO businesses that cater to medicine and health, gyms, pharmacies, specialty health shops, medical supply stores, regional branches of entities like Proctor and Gamble or Johnson and Johnson, and any business/establishment that caters to health.

Cebu Health Care City, perhaps?

2) An educational park which houses university buildings, libraries, museums, vocational schools, learn-English schools, bookstores, study centers, retail shops, etc.

Cebu Educational Village, perhaps?

Just my .02 cents.

zidlakan
February 13th, 2011, 06:47 AM
I wish Cebu has the following:

1) A health care park. It is somewhat like Asiatown I.T. Park, but it houses hospitals, clinics, spas and health salons, medical schools, BPO businesses that cater to medicine and health, gyms, pharmacies, specialty health shops, medical supply stores, regional branches of entities like Proctor and Gamble or Johnson and Johnson, and any business/establishment that caters to health.

Cebu Health Care City, perhaps?

2) An educational park which houses university buildings, libraries, museums, vocational schools, learn-English schools, bookstores, study centers, retail shops, etc.

Cebu Educational Village, perhaps?

Just my .02 cents.

i wish so, too. in due time, i believe we will.

re: 1) medical tourism/wellness center is one of those in the positive list
of investments at the SRP. meaning, if an investor will submit a proposal,
it will be welcomed and supported by the city government. however, at
this time, no one has yet submitted a concrete proposal. there was one
before (i can't tell you the name) which showed interest at the time when
SM hasn't shown interest yet but they withdraw because of internal priori-
ties. government could not (and should not) do it by itself, but i am hope-
ful, this will materialize soon.

re: 2) again, a nice concept, but will depend on the existing universities
agreeing to it and actually relocating in such. the best example i can think
of is the city of tsukuba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukuba,_Ibaraki).
without the cooperation of the existing local universities, this idea can not
take off simply for the lack of critical mass and economic viability. again,
let's wish. we're not at a level of japan where they can direct more than
half of their scientific research to tsukuba thereby accelerating its moniker
as the university, scientific and research city.

Antediluvian
February 13th, 2011, 07:02 AM
Thanks for the insights, sir Paul. I got the idea of the medical park based on Dubai's Healthcare City. I hope/wish it would push through considering that we are positioning Cebu to be a top medical tourism destination.

diehardbisdak
February 13th, 2011, 07:59 AM
Another international hotel will be built in Cebu City

from the official website of Red Planet Hotels: (http://www.redplanethotels.com/)

TUNE HOTEL - 150 rooms
Archbishop Reyes Avenue, Cebu City
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8831/tuneg.jpg


http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/773/tune1a.jpg

Location - Site Acquisition - in front of Ayala Center Cebu (Metro)
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/4/tune4.jpg

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/8021/tune3.jpg

thanks to @landzblalack for the link! :okay:


here's the link of the thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1321601

eskeryon
February 13th, 2011, 08:00 AM
Cebu Forumers, thank you for observing proper decorum. You show really your patience and let us retain that. Look what happened to the other thread. It was reopened. The moderator give them a chance. But what happened? They instead challenged the moderator. So again they are way out of sight.

Antediluvian
February 13th, 2011, 08:12 AM
I just want to share something. I worked as an executive assistant to a very prominent businessman in Mandaue (can't tell you the name). During one of our casual conversations, I mentioned to him that based on my observations, Mandaue is somewhat the metro's "manufacturing/industrial district," Cebu is the "business district," and Lapu Lapu is the "leisure district."

He got so pissed off when I stated to him about Mandaue being an "industrial district." He said that it is now a "commercial city." I explained to him that the definition stems from the fact that Mandaue has a lot of manufacturing industries (i.e., furniture manufacturers, food processing, etc.) and that is a good thing. I told him that there is nothing wrong with it and it shows the niche that Mandaue is very good at.

I had to keep a straight face when his face got extremely red from rage. He spent 3 entire hours insisting that Mandaue is a "commercial city" without ever defining what he meant by "commercial."

Just sharing lang... :)

EdithB
February 13th, 2011, 08:26 AM
Timberland eyed for theme park
By Jessica Ann R. Pareja/WAB (The Freeman) Updated February 13, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (1)

CEBU, Philippines - About 179 hectares of timberland inside the Central Cebu Protected Landscape is being eyed by the Cebu City Government to be developed into a theme park, a new destination and attraction for local and foreign tourists here.

The area, which is within the boundary of Barangay Toong and Poblacion Pardo, is just a few kilometers away from the city proper and is very accessible to visitors, officials said.

Councilor Jose Daluz III said the Cebu City Hillyland Management Board has identified the area, which is just behind Alta Vista Resort and Golf Course, as timberland which if they want to use, requires permission from the environment department.

Since it is part of the CCPL, a Special use Agreements for Protected Areas (SAPA) must be secured from the DENR.

SAPA is a binding instrument between the DENR through the Protected Area Management Board allowing groups, any of the indigenous peoples, tenured migrants, local government units, government agencies and other stakeholders such as corporations, cooperatives, business entities and NGOs to co-manage a protected area through special use agreements.

This permit is granted provided that the applicant will be a partner by the government in protecting the area.

The 29,063-hectare CCPL is declared a protected area because it serves as the basin of the whole island.

About 22 of the cityÆs mountain barangays are within the CCPL. These are barangays Lusaran, Adlawon, Cambinucot, Agsungot, Mabini, Paril, Tagbao, Guba, Sirao, Sapang Daku, Babag, Pung-ol Sibugay, Taptap, Sinsin, Toong, Buhisan, Pamutan, Buot-Taup, Sudlon I and II, Bonbon and Tabunan.

Daluz said they will secure all the permits necessary within the year to start the development soon.

The area they identified will be divided into parcels of lot which will be developed by different private companies and non-government agencies or any entity interested.

Daluz assured they would allow only developments that will not destroy or alter but rather help preserve the environment.

He is envisioning a flower farm, a butterfly farm, a bird sanctuary, a mini diverse forest and the likes.

The city will be tapping private companies like SM Prime Holdings, San Miguel Corporation and Aboitiz Group of Companies, among others to develop the area.

Daluz said the city might provide incentives to participating private sectors like a tax holiday for five years and other forms of incentives possible.

Once they get the permit, Daluz added they will start creating a road network and will fence the area.

The councilor however said he is yet to get the approval of the mayor on the proposed project. - (THE FREEMAN)

This is really nice. I hope they will only approve projects that have minimal impact on the environment.

I wish they would build a trail system throughout the Cebu Watershed Area, if there isn't any existing right now. It will encourage hiking, biking, horseback riding and other outdoor activities. I'd love to see a series of campgrounds by a lake with row boats and facilities for swimming and fishing. Access to said campgrounds would be limited to a two lane highway with turnouts to minimize transportation impact.

On the other hand basig dili mosugot ang mga "weed " farmer. Joke!

EdithB
February 13th, 2011, 08:36 AM
I wish Cebu has the following:

1) A health care park. It is somewhat like Asiatown I.T. Park, but it houses hospitals, clinics, spas and health salons, medical schools, BPO businesses that cater to medicine and health, gyms, pharmacies, specialty health shops, medical supply stores, regional branches of entities like Proctor and Gamble or Johnson and Johnson, and any business/establishment that caters to health.

Cebu Health Care City, perhaps?

2) An educational park which houses university buildings, libraries, museums, vocational schools, learn-English schools, bookstores, study centers, retail shops, etc.

Cebu Educational Village, perhaps?

Just my .02 cents.

I think in addition to the following Cebu needs a government center complex which will have the City Hall, Halls of Justice, a city theatre, etc. The City Hall right now looks really old and I bet the rooms there are a bit crowded and some office spaces are not really suited to the current need of the occupants. Cebu should build a new government center with LEED certified buildings.

It would also be great if Cebu would be the host of a commodities trading and exchange center in the Philippines.

With regards to a Medical Village, I wonder if there are enough medical professionals and hospitals in the Philippines that are world certified. As for medical research centers, there aren't that many post graduate educational institutions in the country right now that produce an adequate supply of doctors and scientists to staff those centers.

rustyboi
February 13th, 2011, 11:01 AM
New updates:

SM Cebu SRP Development
courtesy of luffy_monkey

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/SM%20-%20SRP/SM-SRPa.jpg

SM SRP Complex:

Mall building - 4 storeys

Convention Center - 2 storeys

Residential Towers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
30 storeys each

Hotel Towers 1 & 2
30 storeys each

Hospital Building - 24 storeys

School Building - 14 storeys

For future development:
Residential/Office Towers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
30 storeys each

The Nautilus - SM Cebu [mix] South Road Properties, Cebu City Thread 2 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1288365&page=29)

SleMarKen
February 13th, 2011, 11:37 AM
:okay:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1696/nautilusjpgrender2.jpg

jimPUNKZ
February 13th, 2011, 11:50 AM
lamia ah:cheers::banana::banana:

12jairien14
February 13th, 2011, 11:56 AM
New updates:

SM Cebu SRP Development
courtesy of luffy_monkey

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/SM%20-%20SRP/SM-SRPa.jpg

SM SRP Complex:

Mall building - 4 storeys

Convention Center - 2 storeys

Residential Towers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
30 storeys each

Hotel Towers 1 & 2
30 storeys each

Hospital Building - 24 storeys

School Building - 14 storeys

For future development:
Residential/Office Towers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
30 storeys each

The Nautilus - SM Cebu [mix] South Road Properties, Cebu City Thread 2 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1288365&page=29)

:okay:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1696/nautilusjpgrender2.jpg
^^
:eek2::eek2::eek2:
:omg::omg::omg:
yan lang ang masasabi ko
^^

PINOYmeat
February 13th, 2011, 11:56 AM
la ko kasabot anang spire, is that a structure na pwede masaka-an or is it there for aesthetic purpose lang? mao na ilang gi ingon na icon? sm srp's version of MoA's globe?

BULLDOG
February 13th, 2011, 12:10 PM
:okay:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1696/nautilusjpgrender2.jpg


Wow! grabe na 'to :banana: :banana: akong lantaw this project is far better than MOA based sa mga rendering nga naggawas karon...super ka hype :banana:

dive-cebu
February 13th, 2011, 12:42 PM
i remember those days bai... for the newer guys, just wishing you won't take it against those more seniors who tend to compare. obviously, our forum (its updates and members alike) have evolved, but it would still be nice that we retain some of the best practices, that's why we're still here (unblocked). :)

i remember the first few months and years of SSC cebu, kapuyon na lang na silag pangaway sa cebu kay wa man gyuy mutagad ana nila. naa pa si marvin nga kada naay mutira sa cebu ang i reply kay mga pics that show cebu's progress. aw magbitay gyud ang laway sa trolls lagi. mao to sa una, posts in cebu thread are "quality" posts gyud. ug wa gyud na lock ang cebu thread that time.

blessed rainy sunday morning to everyone!

twIco
February 13th, 2011, 12:44 PM
I've change my mind. Hehe Ganahan so much nako sa SM Nautilus. hahaha Thanks sa mga nagpost. It really made my day! :)

Daizuke
February 13th, 2011, 01:09 PM
:okay:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1696/nautilusjpgrender2.jpg

OMG!!!! :uh::uh::uh::eek2::eek2::eek2: FAR better than MOA

kenken94
February 13th, 2011, 01:15 PM
^^ Way, way, way better! I wish they just speed up the construction of this mall and make sure that tower will really be realized if not improved further.

Cheers for the federal republic of Cebu. :D

redjieredz
February 13th, 2011, 01:26 PM
^^ CHEERS! :cheers1:

dive-cebu
February 13th, 2011, 01:30 PM
@ post #941

maybe you're pertaining to federal state of cebu as part of a possible federation of provinces of the Phils. If cebu would be a federal republic, what are its states (members of the confederation)? if you insist, then each congressional district would be a state?

according to wiki:
A federal republic is a federation of states with a republican form of government. A federation is the central government. The states in a federation also maintain the federation. Usage of the term republic is inconsistent but, as a minimum, it means a state or federation of states that does not have a monarch.

just wanted to suggest more responsible usage of terms, bai...

kenken94
February 13th, 2011, 01:52 PM
^^ Errr, possible but yeah. You're right. I'm just exaggerating things up. Anyway, Cebu is far better a state than a province of the Phils. FRP (Federal Republic of the Philippines) sounds nice.

If we were to be a state, then perhaps we'd become more capable as a place than we are now. Imagine all the independence from centralized tax and unfair distribution of growth.

Antediluvian
February 13th, 2011, 01:57 PM
fellows... be careful sad tag pag "label" sa mga newbies ug "troll" kay what if dili diay na sya troll.. so ang mahitabo ma offend intawn mga newbies nato....

although bag-o na ang mga tactics karon sa mga troll.. maybe we cant identify them at first but for sure we will...

so refrain lang usa tag accuse ug "troll" although we can suspect it. let us give lang usa ug benefit of the doubt... mahibaw an ra gihapon nato na...

for all newbies, i suggests na paila sad to mo maski gamay lang.. before posting reactions etc.

Okay, I'm Gian. I'm from Lapu Lapu Cebu, and I am a Web content writer/copyeditor by profession. I'm Leylander's friend and ex-officemate. I have been lurking in SSC forums for years but it is only now that I posted because my account has been activated.

And I'm NOT a troll.

leylander
February 13th, 2011, 02:17 PM
Okay, I'm Gian. I'm from Lapu Lapu Cebu, and I am a Web content writer/copyeditor by profession. I'm Leylander's friend and ex-officemate. I have been lurking in SSC forums for years but it is only now that I posted because my account has been activated.

And I'm NOT a troll.

... and I say aye! Indeed he ain't no Troll! :)

Welcome, again, G! :cheers:

Antediluvian
February 13th, 2011, 02:28 PM
... and I say aye! Indeed he ain't no Troll! :)

Welcome, again, G! :cheers:

Thanks for the welcome, Ley! :cheers:

Daizuke
February 13th, 2011, 02:32 PM
Cebu - Aint No Troll High Enough :D

Antediluvian
February 13th, 2011, 02:51 PM
Doctors see need for country to invest in medical facilities
Sunstar Daily
02/13/10

FOR the Philippines to gain a strong foothold in becoming a medical tourism site, medical practitioners say the country, particularly Cebu, should invest in the improvement of its medical facilities.

Dr. Mario Victor Villardo, an interventional cardiologist of the Philippine Heart Center and Capitol Medical Center, told Sun.Star Cebu in an interview that while the country’s promotion of medical tourism is both a government and private-led initiative, hospitals in the country should continue on investing and upgrading their medical facilities.

“Improving facilities and bringing in new technologies would surely lure more tourists to come to the country for medication,” he said. He said the country has a big potential to become a preferred medical site over other countries like Thailand.

Accreditation

He said hospitals in Manila have already earned international accreditation while others are still in the process of application.

In Cebu, only Chong Hua Hospital has gotten an international accreditation from the Joint Commission International (JCI), an international agency that sets international standards and evaluates facilities based on the quality and safety of patient care.

“We are hoping to have more hospitals in Cebu to get international accreditations. This would help Cebu gain a strong foothold in its promotion as a medical and vacation destination,” said Dr. Michael Jeremy Tabaloc, interventional cardiologist of Cebu-based hospitals Chong Hua Hospital, Perpetual Succour Hospital and Vicente Sotto Memorial Medical Center.

Villardo and Tabaloc recently gave a briefing on coronary angioplasty, a technique used to open clogged arteries of the heart.

Tabaloc said that the procedure that usually involves a balloon catheter and stent coil being inserted into the artery has now improved involving drug-eluting stents that release medication that prevents artery from re-clogging.

Tabaloc said the procedure, which is non-invasive and non-surgical, has typically a lower cost than bypass surgery and with no recuperation period.

Alternative

Tabaloc said angioplasty treatments are already being performed in Chong Hua Hospital, Perpetual Soccour Hospital and Vicente Sotto Memorial Medical Center.

Richard Wong of B. Braun Medical Supplies said the breakthrough technology is designed to provide alternative options for those suffering with heart problems.

Aside from the improvement of medical facilities, officials of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce of the Philippines (CanCham) said in a separate interview that Cebu should also increase its flights to other countries to attract more tourists.

CanCham president Julian Payne said that Canadians have to go through a 14-hour flight. But Payne said Cebu is a good medical site with Mactan as a good place for recovery.

He said there is a big market for medical services for health check-ups, dental services, eye check-ups and surgery.

As for getting hospital accreditations in Canada, Payne said the country has similar standards with that of the US. “We are providing assistance to hospitals in case they failed to meet the standards so they could still re-apply,” he said.

Antediluvian
February 13th, 2011, 03:00 PM
We all know that women love bags. Here's great news for them.

Company opens concept store to sell branded bags for women
Sunstar Daily Cebu
02/10/11

NOTING women’s fascination with bags, a company that distributes branded bags set up a concept store solely for women.

The Primer Group, which is behind the stores Res Toe Run, Bratpack, Recreational Outdoor Exchange (ROX), and the Travel Club, launched Wednesday their fifth concept store, Ladybag.

Brand manager Jonie Lim said they decided to open the first Ladybag store in Cebu because many Cebuanos “know their brands.”

While their existing stores already feature known bag brands, Lim explained that Ladybag was solely for women.

“Ladies cannot live without their bags,” she noted, adding that the Ladybag concept store had a team of women working on it.

Lim said that most of their customers were looking for brands that were not available in the country and could only get hold of some brands if they flew to Singapore or Hong Kong to shop.

Lim said they are featuring global brands that most people look for.

While the bags they feature target the A and B market, Lim said women consider bags as heirloom pieces that they can hand down to their children. She added that some think of it as an investment and aspire to get hold of a bag they want, no matter what the price is.

Brands they feature in Ladybag are Tumi, a luxury luggage brand, Ace Progress, Hadaki, a Japanese brand featuring colorful designs, Belgian brand Hedgren, Tough, Salad, Health Back Bag, which features a design developed by a chiropractor to make sure the back is not stressed by the bag’s weight, and the Lolita Lempicka collection of the luggage brand Delsey.

Since they opened in October, Lim said sales have been “promising.”

They are also negotiating to distribute other brands in the store and assured customers to expect more brands in their lineup.

Of all the brands they offer, Lim said Tumi is their most popular, as celebrities like Brad Pitt and US President Barack Obama have been seen carrying bags of the brand. A Tumi bag’s price range is between P10,000 and P12,000.

The success of Ladybag has them considering opening at least three more stores in the country. Lim said they are eyeing Manila and Davao as the next areas to open a store. The Primer Group has some 120 stores.

Henz
February 13th, 2011, 03:06 PM
Okay, I'm Gian. I'm from Lapu Lapu Cebu, and I am a Web content writer/copyeditor by profession. I'm Leylander's friend and ex-officemate. I have been lurking in SSC forums for years but it is only now that I posted because my account has been activated.

And I'm NOT a troll.

Welcome @ Antedluvian... (kalisod ba ani imo ngan..:lol::lol:)

Guys, let us welcome our new SSC Cebu forumer.. you are welcome to join our meet up especially our civic actions and programs... please feel free..

i guess we have already meet once...:cheers:

Antediluvian
February 13th, 2011, 03:11 PM
Welcome @ Antedluvian... (kalisod ba ani imo ngan..:lol::lol:)

Guys, let us welcome our new SSC Cebu forumer.. you are welcome to join our meet up especially our civic actions and programs... please feel free..

i guess we have already meet once...:cheers:

Thanks, sir! Please PM me sa schedule unya sa inyo civic actions and programs. Ganahan ko mo apil anang mga ing-ana. You can also text me. PM lang nako akong number.

zidlakan
February 13th, 2011, 03:15 PM
welcome. lapu-lapu city, huh? tapad ra diay ta. i live at the end of the runway ... :lol:

AmbutLang
February 13th, 2011, 03:19 PM
Okay, I'm Gian. I'm from Lapu Lapu Cebu, and I am a Web content writer/copyeditor by profession. I'm Leylander's friend and ex-officemate. I have been lurking in SSC forums for years but it is only now that I posted because my account has been activated.

And I'm NOT a troll.

Ikaw diay na Gian, you were with us, katong nangaon ta sa Ayala kuyug sa mga SSC-Cebu ug katong taga SSC Davao last October. Welcome. :hi: :nuts: :lol:

AmbutLang
February 13th, 2011, 03:36 PM
:okay:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1696/nautilusjpgrender2.jpg

WOW. :omg: :cheer: :dance2: :horse:
Nindot sa mall. revolving restaurant unya sa top floor sa tower. :banana2:

Antediluvian
February 13th, 2011, 03:52 PM
welcome. lapu-lapu city, huh? tapad ra diay ta. i live at the end of the runway ... :lol:

Hehe perting Opon boy kaau ko, sir. Sa Looc, Salvage ko nagpuyo paadung Cordova. Aw naa diay ka anang housing atbang sa runway, sir? Hehe!

Ikaw diay na Gian, you were with us, katong nangaon ta sa Ayala kuyug sa mga SSC-Cebu ug katong taga SSC Davao last October. Welcome.

Oo sir, ako to katong tua sa Ayala kuyog ni Leylan pirme. Not sure about sa SSC Davao, though.

Thanks for the welcome, sirs! Post unya ko updates if makapalit na ko digicam. Hehee!

Antediluvian
February 13th, 2011, 03:56 PM
WOW. :omg: :cheer: :dance2: :horse:
Nindot sa mall. revolving restaurant unya sa top floor sa tower. :banana2:

Perting nindota gyud.

Mayta mo move ang tower oi. Murag katong proposed Dynamic Tower sa Dubai.

donut_bai
February 13th, 2011, 04:21 PM
^^

Tower ba na nga masak-an ug taw? Murag art structure ra man guro parehas sa globe sa MOA.

SleMarKen
February 13th, 2011, 04:25 PM
la ko kasabot anang spire, is that a structure na pwede masaka-an or is it there for aesthetic purpose lang? mao na ilang gi ingon na icon? sm srp's version of MoA's globe?

nop, not the tower but it's a Rubik's cube sa intersection sa SRP road ang Mambaling...:yes:
Globe sa MOA, Rubik's cube sa SM SRP:yes:

http://www.collect-antiques.net/Toys/images/rubiks-cube.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4749/nautilusjpgrenderrubiks.jpg

ofw_cebu
February 13th, 2011, 04:25 PM
pwede hangyo para sa mga experts. . .

pwede ibutang ninyo diri bird's eye view sa SRP with FLI and SM projects, naa to diri sauna, pero karon nga ning gawas na ang rendering sa SM, nindot siguro kaayo tan awon ang updated virtual view sa SRP . . .

salamat daan . . . .

projectile
February 13th, 2011, 04:46 PM
ni dako laging karsada

SleMarKen
February 13th, 2011, 05:11 PM
The whole SM SRP Complex!...
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8141/nautilusjpgrender14.jpg

SineBuano
February 13th, 2011, 05:29 PM
Magtigum ta daan para palit og unit sa condo para maduol ta SM SRP. :okay:

Parchie
February 13th, 2011, 05:40 PM
Magtigum ta daan para palit og unit sa condo para maduol ta SM SRP. :okay:

Tag pila kaha ang unit diha sir? Any rough ideas?

lowellflores
February 13th, 2011, 05:53 PM
SosMariyahosip , pag ka gwapa ana uy.....

SleMarKen
February 13th, 2011, 06:02 PM
Timberland eyed for theme park
By Jessica Ann R. Pareja/WAB (The Freeman) Updated February 13, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (1)

CEBU, Philippines - About 179 hectares of timberland inside the Central Cebu Protected Landscape is being eyed by the Cebu City Government to be developed into a theme park, a new destination and attraction for local and foreign tourists here.

The area, which is within the boundary of Barangay Toong and Poblacion Pardo, is just a few kilometers away from the city proper and is very accessible to visitors, officials said.

Councilor Jose Daluz III said the Cebu City Hillyland Management Board has identified the area, which is just behind Alta Vista Resort and Golf Course, as timberland which if they want to use, requires permission from the environment department.

Since it is part of the CCPL, a Special use Agreements for Protected Areas (SAPA) must be secured from the DENR.

SAPA is a binding instrument between the DENR through the Protected Area Management Board allowing groups, any of the indigenous peoples, tenured migrants, local government units, government agencies and other stakeholders such as corporations, cooperatives, business entities and NGOs to co-manage a protected area through special use agreements.

This permit is granted provided that the applicant will be a partner by the government in protecting the area.

The 29,063-hectare CCPL is declared a protected area because it serves as the basin of the whole island.

About 22 of the cityÆs mountain barangays are within the CCPL. These are barangays Lusaran, Adlawon, Cambinucot, Agsungot, Mabini, Paril, Tagbao, Guba, Sirao, Sapang Daku, Babag, Pung-ol Sibugay, Taptap, Sinsin, Toong, Buhisan, Pamutan, Buot-Taup, Sudlon I and II, Bonbon and Tabunan.

Daluz said they will secure all the permits necessary within the year to start the development soon.

The area they identified will be divided into parcels of lot which will be developed by different private companies and non-government agencies or any entity interested.

Daluz assured they would allow only developments that will not destroy or alter but rather help preserve the environment.

He is envisioning a flower farm, a butterfly farm, a bird sanctuary, a mini diverse forest and the likes.

The city will be tapping private companies like SM Prime Holdings, San Miguel Corporation and Aboitiz Group of Companies, among others to develop the area.

Daluz said the city might provide incentives to participating private sectors like a tax holiday for five years and other forms of incentives possible.

Once they get the permit, Daluz added they will start creating a road network and will fence the area.

The councilor however said he is yet to get the approval of the mayor on the proposed project. - (THE FREEMAN)

nana say development sa kabukiran sa Pardo... ig develop nya ani, ari nasad padong sa amo ang baha :ohno:

diehardbisdak
February 13th, 2011, 06:24 PM
^^ i think mao ni nga project which i posted the dev't. plan (render) sa rumors thread

Jimbu
February 13th, 2011, 08:13 PM
nana say development sa kabukiran sa Pardo... ig develop nya ani, ari nasad padong sa amo ang baha :ohno:

lahi man seguro ni na development bai kay protected area gud na diha.

Daluz assured they would allow only developments that will not destroy or alter but rather help preserve the environment.

He is envisioning a flower farm, a butterfly farm, a bird sanctuary, a mini diverse forest and the likes.

The city will be tapping private companies like SM Prime Holdings, San Miguel Corporation and Aboitiz Group of Companies, among others to develop the area.

AmbutLang
February 13th, 2011, 08:58 PM
i wish so, too. in due time, i believe we will.

re: 1) medical tourism/wellness center is one of those in the positive list
of investments at the SRP. meaning, if an investor will submit a proposal,
it will be welcomed and supported by the city government. however, at
this time, no one has yet submitted a concrete proposal. there was one
before (i can't tell you the name) which showed interest at the time when
SM hasn't shown interest yet but they withdraw because of internal priori-
ties. government could not (and should not) do it by itself, but i am hope-
ful, this will materialize soon.

re: 2) again, a nice concept, but will depend on the existing universities
agreeing to it and actually relocating in such. the best example i can think
of is the city of tsukuba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukuba,_Ibaraki).
without the cooperation of the existing local universities, this idea can not
take off simply for the lack of critical mass and economic viability. again,
let's wish. we're not at a level of japan where they can direct more than
half of their scientific research to tsukuba thereby accelerating its moniker
as the university, scientific and research city.

Kanang first part, If I am not mistaken ang Franciscan Order Catholic congregation dri sa NYC, Naa sila hospice building about 60 storey high nga anha mag-abut/ stay ang mga out of state or country cancer patients with the family to stay while they are in chemotherapy or for their final hour. I think daghan ang mga sponsor for the patients aron maka barato sa pag stay sa NYC, unya ang convento sa mga retired Franciscan naa ra sa tapad. Ang also their Mother House of the region. The whole thing is a religious or a corporation should have similar set-up diha sa Cebu. A patient does not have to have money to be in it.