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slerz
May 7th, 2011, 06:34 AM
^^mao gyud, nabuhat nila ang proper zoning or ang third option so nganong dili man mabuhat diri. Wa gyud na penetrate sa mga squatters ang ila didto such kind of developments nga pareha sa trans axial kay na implement man nilag tarong tanan. Sama sa Cansaga Bay Bridge, unsa namay itsura ron. lol

Zuburbia
May 7th, 2011, 06:34 AM
if they would strictly implement proper land use, then this project would be ok! ang kapaet is we are not singapore or japan..daghan kayo diri sa ato, labi nas mga politiko who are not concern and do not prioritize environmental preservation.. daghan corrupt daghan walay pakialam! daghan nawong og kwarta! :ohno::ohno::ohno:

slerz
May 7th, 2011, 06:41 AM
^^mao gyud, mo ingon na sila nga striktohon nila ang proper land use inig human sa project... mag expect nalang ta nga mabali tanan ilang gipang sulti. Taktika lang nang ingon ingon nila nga stiktohon para lang ma dayon pero inig human, di tumanon ang gipang saad kay ila ramang kaugalingon ang gi huna huna nila nga maka kwarta... mao naman gud ang trend sa atong mga politiko diri so expect nalang ta nga naay mag huna huna nilag dautan. Sila man gud ang nag create og imahe sa ilang pagka way ayo:ohno:
So kung tan aw nato nga delikado ang atong environment, dapat dili nalang ipa tuman. We People should be the first one to protect our environment. Kaysa mo sanong lang ta pero diay lahi na ilang umong.
Ganahan ko ani nga project, basta matarong lang gyud og implement ang tanan :yes:

Panzer_18
May 7th, 2011, 07:27 AM
^^mao nay problema sa atong nasud, sobraan sa demokrasya...:ohno:

Sleepwalker
May 7th, 2011, 08:28 AM
^^mao nay problema sa atong nasud, sobraan sa demokrasya...:ohno:

Sobraan sa demokrasya o tamaran lang gud mo-implementar og mga balaod?

Tinood gud na, nga unless we don't see any improvement in our sense of discipline as a community, much as i am craving for this project, I'll say without doubt that this will be a sure disaster and failure.

Kung gamhanan pa lang ko, kanang mga vandals sa Cansaga Bridge, ako na'ng ipa-papas sa mga nag-vandal gamit ilang dila.

CebuMagigger
May 7th, 2011, 08:37 AM
^^^^
dila jud gamiton hala cge tilapi jud mga tots haha!!! :lol: if only i banned nlng ang mga colorful spray thingy diri sa cebu noh i think mas ma limpyo sad tan awon n the place wud look really neat :yes:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 7th, 2011, 08:40 AM
Kung gamhanan pa lang ko, kanang mga vandals sa Cansaga Bridge, ako na'ng ipa-papas sa mga nag-vandal gamit ilang dila.

^^
:hilarious

dila gyud sir? nawng mas maayo para PWERTENG LAKRAHA! :lol::D

Sleepwalker
May 7th, 2011, 09:09 AM
^^^^
dila jud gamiton hala cge tilapi jud mga tots haha!!! :lol: if only i banned nlng ang mga colorful spray thingy diri sa cebu noh i think mas ma limpyo sad tan awon n the place wud look really neat :yes:

Pero daghan man pud mogamit ana sa tinarong nga intensyon gud, mao'ng di gud na ma-ban nga produkto.

Mao bitaw unta naa ta'y gitawag nga mayor, pulis o baranggay tanod, kay kini unta sila ang mobunal aning mga tawhana.

Pero, possible gani, anak ni Baranggay Captain ang usa sa nagvandal...:ohno:

Pareha gud ni Joavan Fernandez...Baga-a na lang gud og dagway ni Mayor Soc...Kay krus lagi kuno niya nga dapat pas-anon...Ang problema, siya tuod nagpas-an sa krus, pero daghan pud og naigo ug napakong.

Nagpa-Hesus Hesus pud kunohay ni's Mayor Soc, bisan wala'y angay ug naa's bakikaw nga sitwasyon. Kanus-a kaha siya magpalansang sa iyaha krus?!

^^
:hilarious

dila gyud sir? nawng mas maayo para PWERTENG LAKRAHA! :lol::D

Aw, kung mapudpud na ang dila, pwede og nawong dayon gamiton...Para matangtang pud na'ng kabaga nila'g nawong... :)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 7th, 2011, 09:15 AM
^^ :lol:

instant facial scrub gyud! :lol:

slerz
May 7th, 2011, 10:21 AM
^^facial scrub, per ig humag scrup wanay nawng :lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 7th, 2011, 10:47 AM
^^ murag gi-debridement! :lol:

mottymot_007
May 7th, 2011, 11:05 AM
My flight from Puerto Princesa to Cebu City - May 4, 2011 @130PM
Final descent to Cebu - Mactan Int'l Airport was scary to bits as turbulence was high and mighty (so that my eggs raised as high up to my neck ! haha!) Plus, it was a hard (and rough) landing!

A prologue to my Extreme Adventures in Cebu City!

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mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 7th, 2011, 11:11 AM
^^
uy salamat sa mga pics bai. :okay:
sus, ang mga balay sa talisay nagarirong gyud dapit sa SRP. humot kaayong buwad diha! :D

SugbuhanongDURIAN
May 7th, 2011, 11:11 AM
Allan Bigcas executes freewheeling at Marcelo Fernan Bridge, Cebu

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Panzer_18
May 7th, 2011, 11:47 AM
Sobraan sa demokrasya o tamaran lang gud mo-implementar og mga balaod?

Tinood gud na, nga unless we don't see any improvement in our sense of discipline as a community, much as i am craving for this project, I'll say without doubt that this will be a sure disaster and failure.

Kung gamhanan pa lang ko, kanang mga vandals sa Cansaga Bridge, ako na'ng ipa-papas sa mga nag-vandal gamit ilang dila.

^^at first i was very happy bout these project kay maparehas sa srp ang dating:okay:, but years later murag nahug nlng ning etsapwera sa atong kagamhanan ning cansaga bay bridge without proper decorum and rules na ilang g.implementar. ang resulta, murag gihimung fine art class, ang uban ng.himu ug barung2x as if murag nka.tag.iya aning tulaya arun mg.puyo. :ohno: wala jud as en 2 uber 10 akng score ani nila... IMO...

Ang_Bantayanon
May 7th, 2011, 03:20 PM
‘Binisaya’
By Michael Tan
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:47:00 04/28/2011

I WAS just in Cebu to give the commencement speech at our UP campus there. I thought that readers—whether Bisaya or not—might be interested in some parts of the speech where I talked about the history and languages of the region.

For today’s column, I want to focus on the language aspect. There is a tendency, among non-Visayans, to think of “Bisaya” as one language when in fact there are at least 16 languages listed by the Summer Institute of Linguistics’ Ethnologue as spoken in the Visayas alone. The largest ones are Cebuano, Ilonggo (or Hiligaynon) and Waray, but besides these three there are several others like Capiznon and Kiniray-a. One language, Karolanos, is spoken only in Kabankalan, Negros Occidental.

Some of these languages have been dwindling, in part because of the larger languages tending to take over—for example younger Kiniray-a shifting to Ilonggo. But even the larger languages like Cebuano have suffered because of the way “Bisaya” in general is always being put down. The tendency for Cebuanos especially is to protest and to refuse to use Tagalog, but in the process, they (the upper and middle classes especially) end up using English.

It’s time to “rebel” by using local Visayan languages. With the Department of Education’s mother language policy, which requires the use of the main local language in all public schools up to Grade 3 as the medium of instruction for all subjects, we will see a revival of many of these languages, which will actually enrich Philippine culture as a whole.

Despite this linguistic diversity, in the many years that I worked with health and development programs in the Visayas and Mindanao, I’ve come to recognize that there is a “Binisaya” culture that transcends language, and I’m hoping a restored pride in Binisaya—in language, arts, cooking, architecture—will contribute to our being Filipino.
‘Bisaya,’ Filipino

I urged the new graduates to go back and read the Spanish Jesuit Ignacio Francisco Alzina, whose “Historia de las islas e indios de Bisayas” (History of the Islands and Indios of the Visayas) was first published in 1668, and of which the English translation has been published as well over the last 10 years by the UST Press. It has three volumes of fascinating materials about the Visayas, describing its rich natural resources, as well as the culture.

That early, Alzina already noted that the “Bisaya” were not just in the Visayas but also in Mindanao and Luzon—suggesting that early Philippine culture was strongly Bisaya. To the north, he mentioned the gold mines of Paracale, Camarines Sur, which belonged to the “Bisayan natives.” To the south, there were the mines of Caraga (in Alzina’s time, the provinces of Surigao and Agusan) also described as belonging to the Bisaya. This Caraga region impressed the Spaniards because of its gold reserves and the gold craftsmanship.

Again, I referred our new graduates to the Ayala Museum’s new publication, “Philippine Ancestral Gold,” which documents the lavish gold ornaments from the Visayas and Mindanao. By lavish I mean almost extravagant, maluho in Filipino. Imagine draping the shoulders with a 4-kilogram gold ornament as an indicator of social status. You will see that ornament, called a “caste cord,” in the Ayala Museum.

Let me save a longer review of Ayala Museum’s book for a future column and get back now to Alzina. This prolific Jesuit writer had an interest in languages and praised Visayan languages for their “extensiveness, variety and preciseness,” even suggesting the languages as being equal—in richness—to Greek, Latin and Hebrew.

As an example of this richness, he marveled at how “Bisaya” (probably Waray, because he spent most of his missionary life in Samar) had so many words for washing. While in Spanish there is only “lavar,” he said the Bisaya had specific words for washing pots and pans (hugas), washing fish and meat (lawsaw), washing the entire body (parigus), washing the feet (pamusa), washing the hands (hunay) and, being a priest, he just had to mention “washing the most secret and hidden parts of the body.”
Sensual

Likewise, he observed that while the Spaniards had only one word, “desabrido,” for tasteless food, the Bisaya had “more than twenty words, even thirty” to express tastelessness or displeasure. Alcina said Bisaya had an abundance of metaphors, and had compiled some 600 proverbs.

One quick digression: It’s not just the Visayan languages that are so “sensual.” Philippine languages generally have many adjectives that relate to the senses, especially smell and taste. Just think of the Tagalog terms for foul smells, everything from spoiled food to perspiration. Conversely, we have all kinds of positive or pleasant metaphors for smells, for example, “amoy baby,” smelling like a baby.
Back to Alzina. The Jesuit did observe the absence of “po” in Bisaya, but had this to say about the Tagalogs’ use: “…they are accustomed to insert as many po’s, which is a heap of courtesies.” Alzina was not impressed though, observing that the Tagalogs tended to use “po” too much, in a way that “they become nothing but coarse commonplaces and even vulgarisms.” He said the “po” is like the Spanish “señor” (translated as “sir” in the UST book). His example of how this “heap of courtesies” sounds goes this way: “I have come, sir, to see you, sir, and to give you, sir, something to eat, sir, etc.”

Alzina’s observation struck me because Tagalogs do sometimes put down people from the Visayas because of this lack of “po,” accusing the Bisaya of being impolite. Yet, Alzina correctly observed that courtesies were “never lacking” among the Bisaya, who expressed politeness through “bodily gestures.”

I wanted to end today’s column on a light note, referring to the way “binisaya” is used, to mean things local or “native.” It’s this usage of “binisaya” that tells me there is this Bisaya identity that transcends all the different languages.

I first encountered the term when, fresh out of college, I was assigned to work on medicinal plants. In the Visayas and Mindanao, the plants were always being referred to as “binisayang tambal,” literally Visayan medicine, a way of differentiating these medicines from western medicine.
Then there is “manok bisaya,” referring to the “native” chicken. The Tagalogs also have a similar term: “manok Tagalog.” People do complain that “manok bisaya” tends to be smaller and skinnier, but at the same time say it tastes better.

Sometimes, people in the Visayas will also refer to the smallest child in a brood as “binisaya.” It all reflects the way we think of things native and local as smaller. Perhaps, I told our UP Cebu graduates, we could retort that like the “native” chicken, we are “gamay pero lami,” small but tasty (oops), or small but terrible. But really, I still prefer much more of an assertion “bisdak,”—“bisaya dako,” “dako” as big, and let’s roll in sensuous, sensual and strong as well. Mabuhi Bisaya!

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mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 7th, 2011, 03:40 PM
^^
MABUHI ANG BISAYA! :cheers:
MABUHI ANG SUGBUANON! :cheers:

CebuMagigger
May 7th, 2011, 03:48 PM
VIVA BISAYA!!! :nocrook: what if the DepEd wil require all public skuls to hav bisaya language in there curriculmum? ppol here cn learn illongo,waray and etc! that wud be so cool :lol:

Ang_Bantayanon
May 7th, 2011, 04:06 PM
^^
MABUHI ANG BISAYA! :cheers:
MABUHI ANG SUGBUANON! :cheers:

The word Bisaya, I guess, would only refer to Cebuanos, Leytenos, Warays and Boholanos today because it is only us who claim our being Bisaya... Ayaw na lang nag-apila ang uban because they think that they are not Bisaya and in fact the term is a cause of shame (for them). :ohno:

slerz
May 7th, 2011, 04:17 PM
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Panzer_18
May 7th, 2011, 04:33 PM
The word Bisaya, I guess, would only refer to Cebuanos, Leytenos, Warays and Boholanos today because it is only us who claim our being Bisaya... Ayaw na lang nag-apila ang uban because they think that they are not Bisaya and in fact the term is a cause of shame (for them). :ohno:

^^literally ng.identity crisis pud sila? ...

btw alot of us cebuanos would prefer tell that they are proud truly as a cebuanos than filipino. IMO murag only in cebu tngali nah ... not sure...

hehehe i myself is a proud cebuano :D

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 7th, 2011, 04:39 PM
The word Bisaya, I guess, would only refer to Cebuanos, Leytenos, Warays and Boholanos today because it is only us who claim our being Bisaya... Ayaw na lang nag-apila ang uban because they think that they are not Bisaya and in fact the term is a cause of shame (for them). :ohno:

aw wala man pud koy gi-enumerate nga mga group sir pero sakto gyud ka, daghan pud kanila ang dili gyud magpaila nga bisaya sila kay mauwaw sila. :ohno:
pero sige lang, kung asa ilang kalipay suportahan na lang nato para malangit tang tanan! :okay:

Panzer_18
May 7th, 2011, 04:43 PM
^^sa mga bisaya... ang ng.antos ma santos... :okay:

a very common panultihon bout people those who strive hard and reach there goal and thats a cebuanos

TagaCebu II
May 7th, 2011, 05:27 PM
Watch this is on HD ... Manny Pacquiao surely makes us proud not only as Filipinos
especially from Cebu. The first Filipino I have seen so far
who handle a live interview, promote so well ....
especially on how Jimmy Kimmel brilliantly runs his shows.
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bakasaurus
May 7th, 2011, 07:02 PM
Was waiting for Michael Tan to do a write up about Cebu knowing he was keynote speaker at UP Cebu's graduation.

Mabuhi ang mga Bisaya! Hehe.

diehardbisdak
May 7th, 2011, 07:46 PM
^^ re: Bisaya

beautiful / handsome

female: maanyag, matahom

male: ambongan


...one step to being ugly (maot, buringot, bati):

- gwapohon

- gwapahon


:lol:

manila2020
May 7th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Cebu has a lot of potentials, a lot of rooms for developments! I hope you can be as beautiful, if not, better than Singapore!! Your leaders are visionaries! =)

slerz
May 7th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Critics urged: Support beautification projects (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=683779&publicationSubCategoryId=107)

CEBU, Philippines - Cebu 4th District Rep. Benhur Salimbangon has appealed to the critics of the Cebu Beautification Movement Foundation Inc. chaired by his sister Mariquita Salimbangon-Yeung to give the body a chance to work on its mandate.

Salimbangon reacted to criticisms that the foundation’s project to beautify the city is nothing but a waste of money.

In a weekly media forum, Tapok-Tapok sa NS Royal Pension, Salimbangon said their family doesn’t really want to intrude into the affairs of Cebu City but her sister loves the city and was not able to say no when asked by Mayor Michael Rama to head the beautification body.

Salimbangon said their family is just helping Cebu City and called on the others to help instead of criticizing the project.

Last Thursday, thousands of Cebuanos joined the “Beautify Cebu Unity Walk” led by Governor Gwendolyn Garcia, Rama and Yeung.

Yeung has invited all Cebuanos to help restore the beauty of Cebu by way of donating funds.

She herself donated P1 million for the restoration of Osmeña Boulevard dubbed as “Osmeña Boulevard Restoration Project”.

The team seeks to raise millions of pesos for the beautification project which includes lighting the trees, installing lampposts and putting up bricks on the sidewalks of the boulevard.

The beautification group is targeting to complete the project in time for Christmas.

Proposed fund raising activities include the conduct of concert, fashion show for a cause and an auction, among others.

Yeung said that while the city government does not have to spend for the project it shall be in charge of the maintenance to ensure that the lights and other materials that will be put up for the restoration will not be stolen. —/FPL (FREEMAN)

kenken94
May 7th, 2011, 09:04 PM
^^ It's time for all Cebuanos, both big time and those who are the "simple ones" in the island to contribute. ;)

kindofperfect82888
May 8th, 2011, 01:39 AM
^^ after anang ilang beautification project, palit lang pud ta silag street sweeper ( i dont know the name ) aron matangtang ang abog sa kadalanan... paet kaayo nang tanom na mangitom tungod sa abog.. :nuts:

Zuburbia
May 8th, 2011, 01:49 AM
^^
unya nanang street sweeper, mas maayo og mas limpyo motrabaho atong mga metro aid..padaghanon lang na sila.. daghan walay trabaho sa syudad, manghire silag daghan pang metro aid. ang nindot isunod is ang pagtarong og pave sa guba nga mga sidewalk sa mga importanteng og major nga dalan, og pagprovide og decent siewalk sa mga dalan nga dirt pa og wala juy sidewalk...:)

wakeuptoreality
May 8th, 2011, 02:49 AM
Teleperformance Cebu now hiring!

MatudNilaBaby
May 8th, 2011, 03:46 AM
Critics urged: Support beautification projects (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=683779&publicationSubCategoryId=107)

CEBU, Philippines - Cebu 4th District Rep. Benhur Salimbangon has appealed to the critics of the Cebu Beautification Movement Foundation Inc. chaired by his sister Mariquita Salimbangon-Yeung to give the body a chance to work on its mandate.

Salimbangon reacted to criticisms that the foundation’s project to beautify the city is nothing but a waste of money.

In a weekly media forum, Tapok-Tapok sa NS Royal Pension, Salimbangon said their family doesn’t really want to intrude into the affairs of Cebu City but her sister loves the city and was not able to say no when asked by Mayor Michael Rama to head the beautification body.

Salimbangon said their family is just helping Cebu City and called on the others to help instead of criticizing the project.

Last Thursday, thousands of Cebuanos joined the “Beautify Cebu Unity Walk” led by Governor Gwendolyn Garcia, Rama and Yeung.

Yeung has invited all Cebuanos to help restore the beauty of Cebu by way of donating funds.

She herself donated P1 million for the restoration of Osmeña Boulevard dubbed as “Osmeña Boulevard Restoration Project”.

The team seeks to raise millions of pesos for the beautification project which includes lighting the trees, installing lampposts and putting up bricks on the sidewalks of the boulevard.

The beautification group is targeting to complete the project in time for Christmas.

Proposed fund raising activities include the conduct of concert, fashion show for a cause and an auction, among others.

Yeung said that while the city government does not have to spend for the project it shall be in charge of the maintenance to ensure that the lights and other materials that will be put up for the restoration will not be stolen. —/FPL (FREEMAN)

nganong i criticize pa man intawon na nga donation man na ang funds. why is it a waste of funds? ang uban gud ang gitan-aw ang politics behind it bisan ug kinahanglanon gyud kaayo. daghan kaayo dumoduong ang city unya dili kaatiman ang syudad ug walay abag sa non profilt organization.

to hell with those critics. mokupot kaha na ug silhig ning mga critic nato sa pagpalimpyo sa atong tugkagaran. ang maayong buhat tagaan ug malisya para ma discredit si mayor rama sa pag associate ug mga tao nga wala gustohi sa iyang party. :bash::bash::bash:

Panzer_18
May 8th, 2011, 03:48 AM
Cebu has a lot of potentials, a lot of rooms for developments! I hope you can be as beautiful, if not, better than Singapore!! Your leaders are visionaries! =)

^^:) Thank you so much for your time visiting our Cebu thread... :okay: i wish also that its not only cebu has poured so many blessings for investments and developments but also provinces and cities in luzon, visayas and mindanao will also do :banana::banana:...

once again thanks for your time :cheers::cheers:

slerz
May 8th, 2011, 04:39 AM
^^
unya nanang street sweeper, mas maayo og mas limpyo motrabaho atong mga metro aid..padaghanon lang na sila.. daghan walay trabaho sa syudad, manghire silag daghan pang metro aid. ang nindot isunod is ang pagtarong og pave sa guba nga mga sidewalk sa mga importanteng og major nga dalan, og pagprovide og decent siewalk sa mga dalan nga dirt pa og wala juy sidewalk...:)

Pero atleast @Zubs, maka kita na gyud tag bricks ani puhon kung madayon. Atleast karon, dako ni nga issue, meaning gitagaan nilag gibug aton atong mga hangyo sa una :okay::banana:

CebuMagigger
May 8th, 2011, 04:45 AM
the bricks and the lampstands will really make it look eauropean downtown :cheers: im very supportive with this project and katung ning criticize i dnt think theyre totally down for cebu and thats sh*+ :bash:

slerz
May 8th, 2011, 05:41 AM
^^aw di na ta mahibong anang mga politiko og mga actibsta nga mo criticize kay mao man gyud na ilang kalaki. Diha na ta mahibong kung mo criticize ang ordinaryong Cebuano nga nag huwat rag grasya nga i hungit niya gikan sa Goberno...:D

MatudNilaBaby
May 8th, 2011, 05:43 AM
the bricks and the lampstands will really make it look eauropean downtown :cheers: im very supportive with this project and katung ning criticize i dnt think theyre totally down for cebu and thats sh*+ :bash:

amen to you sir!:cheers::cheers::cheers:

Panzer_18
May 8th, 2011, 06:04 AM
^^kung mg.pinarehas sila ug heritage looking kuno... maypa dili sila mu.gamit ug LED street lamps, instead use of soduim to feel nmu nah heritage look jud...

EdithB
May 8th, 2011, 07:10 AM
Naa lang koy ipangutana ha? I hope dili mo clash ang Spanish style streets with the modern buildings that are now standing in Osmena Blvd. My opinion is dili lang pugson nga the whole avenue will be Spanish style when the adjacent buildings are modern. I'm concerned that they might not complement each other. Bricks are expensive, I think if they just have modern hardscape designs for the sidewalk complemented with lamps they could save a lot of money.

I think Spanish style would suit the Heritage areas better. The area around Plaza Sugbu up to Pier 1. In Osmena Blvd. I think they should limit the Spanish style within the Fuente Rotunda and it's immediate vicinity and maybe all the way to Capitol.

slerz
May 8th, 2011, 07:30 AM
^^nothing we can do mam, those private sectors really wants the area to improve. Di man ganahan ang uban sa ilang gibuhat pero for me, wana koy laing masulti but THANK YOU! To those who donated millions for the project (Cebuano businessmen, ordinary Cebuanos). Di man sad ko infavor nga i Spanish style nang O. Blvd kay US inspired baya na pero tungod sa ilang gibuhat, ni labaw akong pag hanga kay sa kabalaka. Kay duha raman gud ang kapili-an MA SPANISH LOOK or THE CURRENT SET UP... Spanish Look nalang ko...:yes:
Again, THANK YOU! :)

Adto ta ni rely sa mga taw nga kahibaw sa tukmang style nga dapat himu-on sa O. Blvd... pero hain man sila, wala may pagpakabana nila so mag sakit nalang ilang dughan kung mo ingon sila nga wa sila ka uyon sa Spanish style. Pila na gud ka tuig nag buang-ang lang nang O. Blvd kay nag huwat nilang experto sa rehabilitation pero wala, na unhan lang nuon silas private sectors nga wa kaayoy alam sa style nga dapat himu-on pero ang importante kay ni ACTION. Kung baga, WALK the TALK. :yes:

Zuburbia
May 8th, 2011, 07:45 AM
Naa lang koy ipangutana ha? I hope dili mo clash ang Spanish style streets with the modern buildings that are now standing in Osmena Blvd. My opinion is dili lang pugson nga the whole avenue will be Spanish style when the adjacent buildings are modern. I'm concerned that they might not complement each other. Bricks are expensive, I think if they just have modern hardscape designs for the sidewalk complemented with lamps they could save a lot of money.

I think Spanish style would suit the Heritage areas better. The area around Plaza Sugbu up to Pier 1. In Osmena Blvd. I think they should limit the Spanish style within the Fuente Rotunda and it's immediate vicinity and maybe all the way to Capitol.

very true..i agree with you mam...pero sa nadunggan nako nga defense ni archt Tessie Javier dili man kuno spanish ang concept, na misquoted ra kuno siya...
dili ni spanish ang dating sa osmena blvrd. not literally...maybe american colonial ila concept but not purely, maybe mixed with a bit of modernity...:)

@slerz..naay news about aning spanish inspired concept...ingon si Arch. tessie Javier dili ni spanish and design sa blvrd...wew!

slerz
May 8th, 2011, 07:51 AM
^^aw tan awa? Naa raman diay na. Asta tig balita sayopon. Unsa naman ning mga taw nga experto sa tig Balita, di naman kahibaw. :lol:
Basta simple raman daw kuno. Basta matarong lang ang O. Blvd kay gamay ra daw ilang budget, mga donations ra...:yes:

diehardbisdak
May 8th, 2011, 07:55 AM
Cebu has a lot of potentials, a lot of rooms for developments! I hope you can be as beautiful, if not, better than Singapore!! Your leaders are visionaries! =)

^^ awwwww.... :cry: ..thanks for your post but i take it with a grain of salt!



Teleperformance Cebu now hiring!

^^ i think almost a month ago na bai nag start na sila'g hiring :okay:

Henz
May 8th, 2011, 09:46 AM
Allan Bigcas executes freewheeling at Marcelo Fernan Bridge, Cebu

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/25021_351737682879_772702879_3640960_3194278_n.jpg


wow.. kanindot ani tan awon sa personal..:banana::banana:

jochval
May 8th, 2011, 10:37 AM
ataka..haha

BAKLANGCEBU
May 8th, 2011, 10:58 AM
Allan Bigcas executes freewheeling at Marcelo Fernan Bridge, Cebu

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/25021_351737682879_772702879_3640960_3194278_n.jpg

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy kakuyaw ani no. unsaon na lang kung malam bos

hoopster21
May 8th, 2011, 12:58 PM
Teleperformance Cebu now hiring!

asa kaha ilang site ani noh?hehe

CebuMagigger
May 8th, 2011, 01:14 PM
Allan Bigcas executes freewheeling at Marcelo Fernan Bridge, Cebu

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/25021_351737682879_772702879_3640960_3194278_n.jpg

nindot kaayo ni makita LIVE jud labi na malambos!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::nuts::nuts::nuts:

Andrew_azuh
May 8th, 2011, 02:43 PM
ka kuyaw ana oi kung masipyat pero infairness ha nice tan awon hehehe

Andrew_azuh
May 8th, 2011, 02:50 PM
guys im new here unsaon pa upload og pic dinhi

julfinch
May 8th, 2011, 03:04 PM
Naa lang koy ipangutana ha? I hope dili mo clash ang Spanish style streets with the modern buildings that are now standing in Osmena Blvd. My opinion is dili lang pugson nga the whole avenue will be Spanish style when the adjacent buildings are modern. I'm concerned that they might not complement each other. Bricks are expensive, I think if they just have modern hardscape designs for the sidewalk complemented with lamps they could save a lot of money.

I think Spanish style would suit the Heritage areas better. The area around Plaza Sugbu up to Pier 1. In Osmena Blvd. I think they should limit the Spanish style within the Fuente Rotunda and it's immediate vicinity and maybe all the way to Capitol.

Ok ra man siguro...IMO kanang sidewalk sa CDU-Hospital ning-gamit sila diha ug bricks pun-an pag black metal fencing sa mga plants diha na mura na gyud ug Spanish style..pero and ospital mismo modern.So samot na kung ipina-American.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 8th, 2011, 03:18 PM
RE: basta ako, maski unsang concept basta maayo, malimpyo, manindot, ug mahusay ang Osmeña Blvd! payts na! :okay:

@andrew_azuh, bai get the http of your pic and then click (insert image icon) to upload pics here. welcome :)

Henz
May 8th, 2011, 03:48 PM
asa kaha ilang site ani noh?hehe


sa Insular bai.. sa CBP.. they will reportedly occupy five floors..
IBM will also occupy another 2 or 3 floors.. hopefully... if this will push through.. then Insular will probably have a 100% occupancy...

Sleepwalker
May 8th, 2011, 04:06 PM
^^aw tan awa? Naa raman diay na. Asta tig balita sayopon. Unsa naman ning mga taw nga experto sa tig Balita, di naman kahibaw. :lol:
Basta simple raman daw kuno. Basta matarong lang ang O. Blvd kay gamay ra daw ilang budget, mga donations ra...:yes:

Yes...Ang giingon ra daw ni Tesse Javier kay "colonial" kuno ang mora'g setting sa pag revitalize sa OSmena Blvd...Not necessarily nga Spanish siya, but most probably American, kay ang Capitol, panahon man na's mga amerkano.

Mora'g si Sir @archeologue (Cebu Heritage Watch Thread) man siguro to ang ni-confirm ni Archt. Javier.. :)

Andrew_azuh
May 8th, 2011, 05:10 PM
^^RE: basta ako, maski unsang concept basta maayo, malimpyo, manindot, ug mahusay ang Osmeña Blvd! payts na! :okay:

@andrew_azuh, bai get the http of your pic and then click (insert image icon) to upload pics here. welcome :)

^^

dli lagi pwd bai .. diba na a man insert link, insert image. unsa ako unahon i click? unya asa nku makuha na ang http of your pic? sorry naglibog gyud ko bai

Andrew_azuh
May 8th, 2011, 05:14 PM
sorry sayop

Wolfranz
May 8th, 2011, 05:33 PM
Cebu City opens renovated library
By Fatrick R. Tabada, Correspondent, Cebu Daily News
5/9/2011

After being closed for years for renovations, three Cebu City heritage sites are finally open to the public starting today.

Plaza Independencia and Cebu City Public Library and Museum were reopened after improvements yesterday.

Plaza Independencia was affected in the construction of the Cebu South Coastal Road two years ago .

Cebu City Mayor Michael Rama and Vice Mayor Joy Augustus Young cut the ribbon in the library and museum yesterday.

“Cebu City, and all of us, give meaning to art and culture. Cebu has a soul” Rama said in his welcome remarks.

On the second floor of the museum, 18 oil paintings by Cebuano artists depicting Cebu in the pre-Hispanic era.

Mariano Vidal painted the Battle of Mactan, Ariel Singson Sr. painted one of the ships that explorer Ferdinand Magellan’s fleet used.

Paintings, though, will be replaced every three months.

City Librarian Rosario Chua said that today, they will open this week to the public from 8 a.m. to noon since they still have to update their collection of books. Next week they will be open from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.

The library boasts 14,000 books, a reading place for children and computer access.

Storytelling will be held every week to encourage more researchers to use the city library, Chua said.

Chua said the city allocated P500,000 that they will use to buy more computers.

She said she private organizations will donate up-to-date books.

Cebu City allocated P13 million for the renovation of the city library and museum and almost P40 million for the rehabilitation of Plaza Independencia.

The plaza will be open from at 6 a.m to 10 p.m Mondays to Fridays and from 5 a.m to midnight on Saturdays, Sundays and holidays.

kenken94
May 8th, 2011, 06:36 PM
Downtown Colon was just so bright. They already replaced the street lights there. Also the traffic lights were also more clearer to see. Just wondering, were the traffic lights also replaced with LEDs?

slerz
May 8th, 2011, 06:59 PM
May 08, 2011

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Eucharistic Celebration
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Plaza Blessing
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Ribbon Cutting and unveiling of markers
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slerz
May 8th, 2011, 07:05 PM
Mayor Mike tours Gov Gwen around the park
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Presentation
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Mayor's Speech
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Plaza Independencia Lighting Ceremony
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Fort San Pedro 445th Founding Anniversary Celebration
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http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7954/pind16.jpg

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6883/pind17.jpg

And lastly, Dinner :)
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diz
May 8th, 2011, 08:39 PM
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4719/pind5.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2582/pind7.jpg

Now that's how you make a sign. Not the crap Manila puts out with faces of politicians and the "WELCOME... Hon. __________ to ________ Park." :nuts:

Wolfranz
May 8th, 2011, 10:41 PM
Rizal Memorial Library and Museum
Boulevard Osmena

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2690/5700881104_68cc62beb3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700881104/)
front facade (2) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700881104/) by wolfranz_amadeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/28091382@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2523/5700938410_850f513466.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700938410/)
staircase (2) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700938410/) by wolfranz_amadeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/28091382@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/5700342105_c200bab1e0.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700342105/)
staircase (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700342105/) by wolfranz_amadeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/28091382@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/5700351021_23d42ca13b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700351021/)
Sinulog Hall signage (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700351021/) by wolfranz_amadeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/28091382@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5067/5700784410_70ab1c145c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700784410/)
Sinulog Hall (2) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700784410/) by wolfranz_amadeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/28091382@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2133/5700780222_aa5c54ea13.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700780222/)
Sinulog Hall (1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700780222/) by wolfranz_amadeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/28091382@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2655/5700199461_d76df99395.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700199461/)
windows (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700199461/) by wolfranz_amadeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/28091382@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/5700218547_698c040c7e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700218547/)
fenestration (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700218547/) by wolfranz_amadeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/28091382@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3624/5700260359_f9c2133753.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700260359/)
chandelier (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28091382@N04/5700260359/) by wolfranz_amadeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/28091382@N04/), on Flickr

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 9th, 2011, 01:50 AM
^^

dli lagi pwd bai .. diba na a man insert link, insert image. unsa ako unahon i click? unya asa nku makuha na ang http of your pic? sorry naglibog gyud ko bai

toinks! :D

unaha pagkuha ang http link sa imong pics. you can see that in the web toolbox and then go to SSC reply to thread and click insert image para maka-upload ka. G?

copy-paste ra na bai. :)

MatudNilaBaby
May 9th, 2011, 02:10 AM
Mayor Mike tours Gov Gwen around the park
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5813/pind9.jpg

Presentation
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8286/pind10.jpg

Mayor's Speech
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Plaza Independencia Lighting Ceremony
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http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3098/pind13.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/332/pind14.jpg

Fort San Pedro 445th Founding Anniversary Celebration
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8840/pind15.jpg

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7954/pind16.jpg

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6883/pind17.jpg

And lastly, Dinner :)
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3108/pind18.jpg

naay police or security nga mag patrolya sa plaza kada oras while its open to the public? nindot biya ning plaza kon maka feel nga safe ka. kinahanglan mao gyud unta na ang ambience beauty, nature and safety labi na sa mga tourists domestric and international nga dili suheto a atong lugar.

kudos to mayor rama and the city for restoring our very own historical plaza libertad aka plaza indepencia.:banana::banana::banana:

isla
May 9th, 2011, 02:56 AM
City reopens plaza, museum

THREE sites that form part of Cebu City’s culture and heritage were reopened to the public by the City Government yesterday — the Plaza Independen-cia, the city museum, and the city public library.

Two years after it was demolished to make way for the construction of the Cebu South Coastal Road tunnel, the Plaza Independencia is now again open for public use.

Post your prayers and condolences for Cebu Vice Governor Greg Sanchez's family.

Yesterday, the City unveiled the two markers of the newly renovated plaza and held the ceremonial switch-on of the plaza’s lights.

It was attended by Mayor Michael Rama, Vice Mayor Joy Augustus Young, Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia, Lourdes Ong, special assistant to the President, Councilor Nida Cabrera and other city hall officials.

Cabrera, who chairs the council committee on parks and playgrounds, hopes the plaza
will attract tourists to the city.

“I hope this will awaken the interest of foreign and local tourists and will encourage them to make the plaza their top destination and landmark in the city,” she said.

Last year, the City appropriated P40 million for the park’s beautification and rehabilitation after it was damaged during the construction of the subway portion of
the south coastal road.

The renovations include the installation of new benches and lampposts, the restoration of the fountain and the redesigning of the plaza’s walkway and landscape.

Also yesterday, the City inaugurated the Dr. Jose Rizal Memorial Library and Museum, two years after it was closed for renovation.

Unlike before, the library is now well-lit and more spacious, and has new chairs and tables as well.

Books

Despite the facelift, however, a problem still lingers in the corners and shelves of the 71-year-old library: the lack of books and limited reading materials for students, teachers, and researchers.

“The library really needs books and reading materials. Our books also need updating,” said city librarian Rosario Chua.

Aside from the lack of books, Chua also said the library needs more librarians to attend to the needs of the different library users and researchers.

Currently, Chua said, the library only has seven workers when it is supposed to have 20 plantilla workers.

Chua said she will ask the mayor to hire more workers for the city library.

Rama said it is “heartwarming” to see the library opened again to the public.

“Di na ta mauwaw. Sauna bati kayo ni pero karon nindot na kayo (This place will not embarrass us anymore),” he said.

Rama appealed to the Cebuanos yesterday to help the City in preserving its culture and history.

“Because a city without culture is like a city without a soul,” he said.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 9th, 2011, 02:59 AM
^^
i like the highlighted part! :okay:

GO MAYOR TOM! :cheers:

Sleepwalker
May 9th, 2011, 04:15 AM
^^:banana::banana:

Kanindot na sa Plaza Independencia oi!

Thanks ex-Mayor Tom, for stabilizing Cebu economy...Thanks Mayor Rama, for beautifying and cleaning up Cebu!!!

:banana::banana:

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 04:42 AM
^^
actually its a disappointement, but not totally, though they could have done better... we were there with bloodyred and slerz and we saw lots of flaws.. In our opinion its on the design and the contractors part... :ohno: Gubot and kuwang ang pag-define sa elements and spaces in the park, its like the interconnection of spaces wala natarong. The human circulations were not well considered, ang pagregulate sa human activities/traffic thru the proper planning of walkways in relation to different spaces for the protection of the park (grass, plants, monument), nga dili dali maguba ang plaza and making it low-maintenance. UGA pa kayong park, kuwang pag plants, shrubs, flowers, benches, na pay wa naniga nga lamp post, exposed nga lighting wires, lousy nga sirit sa fountain) despite nga sige nanag kamove ang deadline ana. You can see for urself personally, di na kinahanglan nga architect ka or expert in urban design para makakita sa kapalpak! even @Bloodyred has a very profound critical assessment of the plaza, miski dili siya architect or urban designer

You can see unsa pagka-pinadagan and pagdesign og pagconstruct... Rama might have a good heart and intention but its the process in making it happened, that needs more painstaking and meticulous reconsideration to make a more satisfying and justifiable result.. nga dili ra pinadagan kay kani molungtad gud nig pila pa ka decada. kinahanglan dili diposable and dating sa trabaho nga murag minantinil...nga dili masayang atong "20 million"! nga kinahanglan pang world class jud ag standard kay ganahan man kaha ta maworld class ang Cebu!

sa rating nga 10 i can give it a 4.5 or ibutang nalng natog 5, hangyo!!!! ahaha! :lol:

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 04:52 AM
^^nag sipok gyud akong ulo atong duol nalang gyud kaayo ang ang duha ka walkway pero wana lang gyud ilahos nga pwede man unta but instead patuyukon pa gyud sa pikas para maka labang sa pikas. Then naay mga benches nag surround, walay concrete access nga bricks from the walkway pero naay caution nga "keep off the grass"... unsaon man nako pag lingkod atong benches nga keep off the grass man unta then tuyukunon sad kaayo from one monument to another maong ang uban nakita namo gabii nga nilabang nalang sa tunga sa grass...then naay mga walkway lights kanang pareha sa the Terraces sa Ayala, asa gibutang ang uban? tua sa tunga tunga sa grass, layo kaayo sa walkway nga intended man unta tong klase nga lamp post sa walkway...huh! I mean dili User Friendly iyang set up mag libog ang taw kung asa tamak...lol Pero hinuon nindot na baya sad, below sa expectation lang gyud nuon nako ang iyang pagka han ay. July 4, Inauguration nasad sa luyo nga bahin sa Fort San Pedro:yes:

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 05:16 AM
i hope next time Rama would hire those who specialize urban design and landscape architecture, not just merely an architect. kay ang architect naa man pod nay areas of specialization..u might be an architect but maybe ur concern and passion is just limited to building forms and design, its better if we hire a really good urban designers and landscape architects. :) :cheers:

next time kanang area around compania maritima and the coastal park in front of it na pod, hope idesign competition, nya mangayog advise si mayor Rama sa mga expert sa urban design aron ferpekto na gyud and beauty sa atong syudad! hehe ! dili nang kalit kalit diretso2x... kay we need to consider these heritage places and parks as forever na jud nga maka-appreciate pa inyong mga anak og mga apo sa mo-abutay nga mga panahon, and see our generations brilliance and indulgence to arts and beauty, that would inspire the next cebuano generations to live better in peace and harmony, and continue the legacy, the value of cebuano culture and pride! :cheers:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 9th, 2011, 05:38 AM
^^
ikaw na lang unta to sir @zubs kay salig mi sa imong taste! :D

pero unsa man gyud? bati o nindot? yes or no. walay middle choice. hehe

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 05:47 AM
^^tulis naman sad na bro... Ok ra man kay na hinlo gyud pero dili lang lagi siya User friendly. Gayagaw ang set up sa mga suga, ang path og walay drainage... mag lunang ang tubig. Pero over all, nindot siya... Si @Zubs, mas naka kita siya sa bulilyaso kay expert man siya sa architecture so dapat lang. infact kauban man gani niya sa USC ang architect anang Plaza:yes:

btw, CCTV cameras will be installed in the park...:yes:

habagatcentral1
May 9th, 2011, 05:50 AM
BTW, does anyone here have a photo of the old White Gold? I'm curious about that aquarium thingy,...

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 05:50 AM
^^
ikaw na lang unta to sir @zubs kay salig mi sa imong taste! :D

pero unsa man gyud? bati o nindot? yes or no. walay middle choice. hehe

ordinaryong taw ra ko dong wa koy gispecialize sa pagka karon, audience lang sa ko.
mga ekal pa akong gispecialize sa pagka karon! bwahahahaha!

bitaw u like an honest answer? bati siya, IMO! i know si bloody red gibati-an jud, ahaha! hadlok lang siya mo-open... hahaha! sturya diha @bloodyred!

ikaw @mainstream bah adto kuno ngadto aron ikaw mismo ang makakita sa personal, aron ikaw mismo ang mo evaluate sa plaza.. lain lain baya ta taste, basin feel ra diay nimo..ahahaa! :lol:

monindot na tingali siya if madungagan more plants, shrubs and flowers..and mas nice if butangan tog water feature/ponds and fountians ang tunga sa hawan kayo nga concrete pavement sa taliwala sa park.. :)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 9th, 2011, 05:51 AM
^^
maoba? aw basin wala pa gyud diay na mahuman. basin after ana naa pa nay ayuhonon. i know naa pa nay daghan improvements. ila lang gisiguro nga 8 ang opening kay swerte biya nang petsaha. :)

atay gyud ka sir @zubs! :lol:
sige lang muduaw ra unya ko.

rustyboi
May 9th, 2011, 05:56 AM
makalibog man pud usahay ang mga comments, bati unya mu-ingon ug nindot and ganahan, then mu-ingon napud ug bati. or sayop lang ko sa pag understand hehe. like kung walay lihok, reklamo. kung lihukon, reklamo gihapon. :) pero one good thing ani, nindot pud if mu strive ta ug higher quality or standard. boring man kung mu settle ta sa mediocre or low standard, di ta mu asenso. IMO.

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 05:56 AM
^^
maoba? aw basin wala pa gyud diay na mahuman. basin after ana naa pa nay ayuhonon. i know naa pa nay daghan improvements. ila lang gisiguro nga 8 ang opening kay swerte biya nang petsaha. :)

the whole planning akong buot pasabot..humanag implement ang plans and over-all circulation and arrangemet sa park...mura ra siyag wala ra! nothing special..

adto lagi aron ikaw mismo mo-judge, kay i know dili ka motu-o namo,,,optimistic baya ka pirme! bwahahaha! duol ra kayo nang plaza oi..7.50 rang pliti sa jeep gikan fuente...go go go experience it, dont just live in forums, pictures and internet, see for yourself! experience the outdoor, Goooo! ahahahaha! :lol::lol::lol::nuts:

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 05:57 AM
^^
maoba? aw basin wala pa gyud diay na mahuman. basin after ana naa pa nay ayuhonon. i know naa pa nay daghan improvements. ila lang gisiguro nga 8 ang opening kay swerte biya nang petsaha. :)

atay gyud ka sir @zubs! :lol:
sige lang muduaw ra unya ko.


^^hinu on, wapa gyud siya nahuman pero ang walkway, human naman og ang mga details nga di kaayo maayo pagka han ay. Murag napugos ra ang architect, nya wala kaayo siya ka art art mo design og park. Kung imo gyung obserbahan ang set up, libog...ehehe. Even the Mayor, wa kaayo siya na satisfied reason nga wa gyud niya gi mention ang mga architects sa iyang speech...:yes:

hoopster21
May 9th, 2011, 05:58 AM
aw same building ra diay sila namu hehe dira man pud ang Ayala Land Sales, Inc. na office sa 10th Floor, Thanks Henz! abi naku sa E-Block 2, murag confidential pa ang major tenant sa E-Block 2 hehe naa muy Idea?

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 9th, 2011, 05:59 AM
^^
:rofl::D

lagi muadto ra lagi ko! apurado si sir! :lol:

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 06:03 AM
@bro, mo adto ko ron kay akong kwa on ang video presentation. text lang kung mo adto ka...

@zubs og @main, kamo ha... hug be, hug... hugta pa...:D:lol:

Henz
May 9th, 2011, 06:06 AM
for me, the fact na nausab na ang na atiman ug balik ang Plaza Independecia is ok na sya.. we cant ask for more.

but of course regarding sa design i am not the professional here but IMO it can be altered seguro if their are flaws and if indeed morag disposable ra ang pag buhat.. meaning half baked then we can complain to the City Government.. basin dako ra kaayo ang commission sa mga nagdumala ana mao nga ni reflect jud sa finished project.. SSC Cebu can submit a position paper about ana, then submit to Mayor Rama..

But for now, let us laud this very noble act of renovating the premier park of Cebu city under Mayor Rama's leadership.. :okay:

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 06:07 AM
makalibog man pud usahay ang mga comments, bati unya mu-ingon ug nindot and ganahan, then mu-ingon napud ug bati. or sayop lang ko sa pag understand hehe. like kung walay lihok, reklamo. kung lihukon, reklamo gihapon. :)

we are talking about if it looks good or bad, not about gibuhat or wala gibuhat... i know tanan basta cebu or cebu city government gani di jud ang uban mosturyag negative.
as if using the forum for advertisement, well its a forum, for your thoughts and self expression not an advertising media nga puro ra nindot ang i-isturya, even if denying the reality... and im just being real, or maybe some people here are just used to living in denial... bwahahaha! :lol::lol:

rustyboi
May 9th, 2011, 06:11 AM
we are talking about if it looks good or bad, not about gibuhat or wala gibuhat... i know tanan basta cebu or cebu city government gani di jud ang uban mosturyag negative.
as if using the forum for advertisement, well its a forum, for your thoughts and self expression not an advertising media nga puro ra nindot ang i-isturya, even if denying the reality... and im just being real, or maybe some people here are just used to living in denial... bwahahaha! :lol::lol:

wala man siguro in-denial dire, nga some people are living a good life in Cebu or at least in Cebu City. hehe

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 06:16 AM
^^naa koy kwa-on unya sa city hall usa ka video presentaion about sa plaza... ang kani adto, ang karon og ang ugma sa plaza apil na ang mga dark moments sa plaza... nindot ang storya. Nindot paminawn sad, maka proud gyud nga we have that kind of Plaza that reflects

PLAZA INDEPENDENCIA
"not just to serve as a venue for exercise and other various fun and leisure activities but above all, to remind every Filipinos of our most precious Heritage, our Independence"


Pero here's Mayor Rama's speech sa Plaza's Inauguration.
Ioj011iOmRI

Sleepwalker
May 9th, 2011, 06:18 AM
^^Beta release pa siguro na ang sa Plaza Independencia oi...Later on, i-improve pa gud siguro na, with finishing touches and all.

Mora ba og first pass/second pass... :cheers:

Henz
May 9th, 2011, 06:20 AM
we are talking about if it looks good or bad, not about gibuhat or wala gibuhat... i know tanan basta cebu or cebu city government gani di jud ang uban mosturyag negative.
as if using the forum for advertisement, well its a forum, for your thoughts and self expression not an advertising media nga puro ra nindot ang i-isturya, even if denying the reality... and im just being real, or maybe some people here are just used to living in denial... bwahahaha! :lol::lol:


harsh ra sad kaayo ka @ zubs mo judge.
it doesnt mean na people who will not subscribe to your opinion is in denial or what..

maybe its just that we have varied opinions on this matter and we cant deny that because as you say.. this is a forum. :)

rustyboi
May 9th, 2011, 06:21 AM
There's been an anti-smoking ordinance in Cebu City since 2003, is the government serious this time?


Traders laud Cebu City smoking ban (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/317068/traders-laud-cebu-city-smoking-ban)
By MALOU M. MOZO
May 6, 2011, 6:32pm

CEBU CITY, Philippines – Business sectors in Cebu commended Friday the Cebu City government for strengthening its advocacy on prohibiting smoking cigarettes in public places throughout the city, following the ordinance passed by the City Council.

Cebu Chamber of Commerce and Industry President Samuel Chioson said the ordinance is set to benefit the general public, especially the non-smokers who fall victim to second hand smoking.

“The business sector needs to strictly comply with providing for a smoking area to follow the ordinance. Generally, it will benefit the public and we hope that this will truly put more teeth for the anti-smoking ordinance,” Chioson said.

Cebu Business Club President Dondi Joseph while agreeing that the City-wide anti-smoking ordinance will create a huge impact in protecting the health of the people, said this will temporarily affect business establishments.

“We view it as a good ordinance for Cebu City. This is what most developed cities in the world are practicing and have successfully implemented. It is time that we take this smoking ban to a larger scale.

While it may affect bars and restaurants, it will only be a short-term effect,” Joseph said in an interview.

The new ordinance was passed after the City Council said anti-smoking ordinances adhering to Republic Act 9211 or the Tobacco Regulations Act in 2003 have been ignored by the public.

Despite the existence of the national and local statutes that prohibited and penalized smoking inside the public transportation and in public buildings, smoking continues to be rampant and unrestrained thus compromising the health of the public, particularly pregnant women and children whose immune systems are less resistant.

Cebu City’s Comprehensive Anti-Smoking Ordinance prohibits smoking in public areas including terminals, bus stations, conference halls and restaurants.

It also bans smoking in government offices, schools, study centers, recreational facilities for those under 18 years old, gas stations, hospitals and clinics.

Smoking areas should be provided but these should not be located within 10 meters from entrances and exits of malls and commercial establishments.

Violators face up to six months of imprisonment and P3,000 in penalties, according to the new ordinance.

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 06:24 AM
^^Beta release pa siguro na ang sa Plaza Independencia oi...Later on, i-improve pa gud siguro na, with finishing touches and all.

Mora ba og first pass/second pass... :cheers:

humana man sigurog gasto ang 20 million...bwahahaha! joke

bitaw i hope... monindot paman jud na og panindoton.. dili man ingon nga hopeless...ang pagpanindot pag-usab dali ra, ang paet nga palandungon ana kay ang nagasto... milliones na baya ang nagasto, nya usabon napod, so aother milliones na pod? ahahaha! ang paet og mapareho ra gihapon sa plaza sugbo nga uga ra gihapon hangtod karon, in fact hingsamot pag ka-uga tungod sa mga homeless and makililimos diha magtambay, nya wala madungagi og shrubs and flowers and ma-maintain ang tanom.. usahay magkatag ang mga trash...

Henz
May 9th, 2011, 06:25 AM
aw same building ra diay sila namu hehe dira man pud ang Ayala Land Sales, Inc. na office sa 10th Floor, Thanks Henz! abi naku sa E-Block 2, murag confidential pa ang major tenant sa E-Block 2 hehe naa muy Idea?


according to a source.. JP Morgan, NEC and one more BPO is going to occupy Ebloc 2... The ground floor will be allocated for commercial purposes.

Ebloc 2 is being rushed since it is already 90% leased out.. thats why Ebloc 3 is on the drawing board and probably will see the light of the day by the end of this year.:cheers:

grattacielo
May 9th, 2011, 06:25 AM
^^Beta release pa siguro na ang sa Plaza Independencia oi...Later on, i-improve pa gud siguro na, with finishing touches and all.

Mora ba og first pass/second pass... :cheers:

I agree. Maybe even the plants have yet to be transformed to their full growth and beauty. Bad design or not, it's fine for me because something is being done in that area.
If we want it to look like the terraces, well, 20 million is petty cash.

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 06:32 AM
Ingun ani nalang... Ako kasabot kaayo ko ni @Zuburbia kay lagi naa siya sa field of Architecture so mas naka kita siya sa every detail sa sayop og mga flaws pero ako naka kita sad ko pero dili kaayo detailed kay dili man ko expert. Same rasad na sa akong experties about weather, daghan ni ingon nga ako nang gi serious ang study of weather nga di mana kaayo na interesting. Maybe for them but for me, mas ni focus ko ani nga field upto sa detailed nga pag observe even sa movements sa clouds (which others find it weird) kay mao man akong interest or ganahan. So naa ra na sa pag sabot sa usag usa nga interest. So much better nga naa sa'y forumer nga grabe mo detail sa pag criticize para naa sad tay ma learn ana nga field of interest. Pero it doesn't mean nga kay abi ni criticize siya, failed na gyud tang tanan, ang opening, ang inauguration og ang Cebu... No! Assessment lang mana ang criticisms but overall, We, everyone are successful sa atong tumong sa pag panindot sa Cebu. Mao raman gyud na atong aim tanan.

Paminawa ninyo ang speech ni Rama, kay exciting. Maka dungog mo niya ani "OG MO ADTO TA SA UNAHAN SA CAMPANA MARITIMA, OG MOSOROY TA PADONG SA CARBON OG MAG AGI AN TA SA DAPLINAN SA COLON OG DIDTO SA PARI-AN HANGTOD ATONG MAKIT AN ANG KINATIBUK ANG SINUGDANAN DINHHI SA ATONG KATILINGBAN"
Mao raba gyud na atong damgo diri sa SSC maong swerte kaayo ta kay tanan natong damgo for Cebu, padong gyud sa pagka tuman. So I hope mo understand lang unta ta sa field of experties sa atong mga fellow forumers og dili ta mo hatag og conclution nga way ayo kay sigeg reklamo. Kay kaning mga criticisms diri, mabasahan baya sad ni nila unya i improve. diba? so lets :banana::banana: for our beautiful CEBU! :okay:

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 06:33 AM
ang good news sa plaza is gipahugtan na jud ang security 24 hours ang security and police...though im a smoker, but im glad nga giregulate na nila ang smoking around the plaza... No smoking miski asa sa park...naa ray usa ka area nga for smoking! go go go go Mike rama! :banana: :cheers:

flesh_is_weak
May 9th, 2011, 06:42 AM
okay lang basta dili nila i-ban ang outdoor drinking ug smoking sulod sa bar :)

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 06:49 AM
^^maytag dili ningas kugon ang ilang ka strikto sa security. Kay ako lang gabii, nakig sturya pa ko ni Liezel of City Hall, gi sirad an lang kos guard sa gate unya sila @Zubs tua pas gawas. Wa gyud ko ablihi...waaaa. Pero it's a sign sad kung unsa na sila ka strikto pero maayo untag mag permi...

Andrew_azuh
May 9th, 2011, 07:56 AM
^^toinks! :D

unaha pagkuha ang http link sa imong pics. you can see that in the web toolbox and then go to SSC reply to thread and click insert image para maka-upload ka. G?

copy-paste ra na bai. :)

^^

Bai ang akoa pic man gud i upload wala ko makita nga http link mao naglibog ko anyway pwd ask na lng ko number maayo magkas2rya ta bai or anyone here willing to help me ask lng ko unsaon pag upload naglibog ko ask ko cel number tawagan nku para mas2rya ko.. salamat

Wind Shear
May 9th, 2011, 08:01 AM
makalibog man pud usahay ang mga comments, bati unya mu-ingon ug nindot and ganahan, then mu-ingon napud ug bati. or sayop lang ko sa pag understand hehe. like kung walay lihok, reklamo. kung lihukon, reklamo gihapon. :) pero one good thing ani, nindot pud if mu strive ta ug higher quality or standard. boring man kung mu settle ta sa mediocre or low standard, di ta mu asenso. IMO.

Mao giingon nga not everybody pleases you and your actions. :)

In my case I shove all the criticisms that are destructive and non-objective.

Andrew_azuh
May 9th, 2011, 08:08 AM
Mao giingon nga not everybody pleases you and your actions. :)

In my case I shove all the criticisms that are destructive and non-objective.

^^

Hi im new here .. pwd ko ask cel number ask lng ko unsaon pag upload pic naglibog man gud ko maayo ako mas2rya.. salamat

Sleepwalker
May 9th, 2011, 09:01 AM
^^You can use "INSERT IMAGE" button provided by the editor... :)

Or you can do it manually, by using image_url_here tag.

Andrew_azuh
May 9th, 2011, 09:06 AM
^^You can use "INSERT IMAGE" button provided by the editor... :)

Or you can do it manually, by using image_url_here tag.

^^^^

Bai pwd ka nku tawagan ask ko cel number ok lng.. salamat

Sleepwalker
May 9th, 2011, 09:12 AM
Mora'g di na kinahanglan manawag Sir...Sunda lang nang mga guides nga gipang post diha, payter na na.

Or sulayi lang pud og www.google.com, kay naa ka'y daghan makuha nga additional tips. :okay:

SineBuano
May 9th, 2011, 09:14 AM
Ok gyod ning taga SSC Cebu kay mudawat na og phone support.

Sleepwalker
May 9th, 2011, 09:16 AM
Magtukod kaha ta'ng SSC og call center...Unya amot-amot lang ta's capital...Hehehehe

Henz
May 9th, 2011, 09:21 AM
nindot na na idea.. dah.. bai @ sleep.. hehehe

Andrew_azuh
May 9th, 2011, 09:21 AM
^^Magtukod kaha ta'ng SSC og call center...Unya amot-amot lang ta's capital...Hehehehe

^^

Salamat kaayo guys sa tanan nag effort og reply sa ako favor unta .. i appreciate promise dat would be my last pagkolit og pangotana ... nangluod ko.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 9th, 2011, 09:29 AM
Ok gyod ning taga SSC Cebu kay mudawat na og phone support.

:hilarious.... SSC Cebu good morning may i help you? :lol::nocrook:

^^

Hi im new here .. pwd ko ask cel number ask lng ko unsaon pag upload pic naglibog man gud ko maayo ako mas2rya.. salamat

ana na lang bai:

STEPS :lol:

1. i-upload sa FB imo pics
2. i-view imong pic
3. get the url (right click and go to properties)
4. click post reply sa SSC
5. click insert image icon (kanang naay bukid :D)
6. paste url
7. upload na
8. humana
9. :banana::banana::banana:

leylander
May 9th, 2011, 09:29 AM
^^

^^

Salamat kaayo guys sa tanan nag effort og reply sa ako favor unta .. i appreciate promise dat would be my last pagkolit og pangotana ... nangluod ko.

ayaw pangluod bai... bitaw bai, gai lang ko sa link sa pictures bai beh. ako na lang post.

Sleepwalker
May 9th, 2011, 09:31 AM
^^Sir, ayaw lang pangluod...Kay kinasingkasing baya ni among reply nimo.

Katong plano about call center, seryoso baya to nga suggestion. Dili to related sa imong "pangulit". Dili to siya sarcasm.

Pasensya kung naka-offend nimo.

Andrew_azuh
May 9th, 2011, 09:36 AM
^^Sir, ayaw lang pangluod...Kay kinasingkasing baya ni among reply nimo.

Katong plano about call center, seryoso baya to nga suggestion. Dili to related sa imong "pangulit".

^^

kabalo mo guys ha dugay rako cge open ani dria mag 2 yrs na every morning pag abot nku sa office mag open gyud ko apil ang philipine porject rise until bag o lng ko naka realized pwd man d i ko mag pa member, pwd man d i ko mag post og comment mao i decided to ask dria kung unsaon and since naglibog ko mao nag ask ko cel number actually maula wko cge kolit ask kay akoa message balik balik makita sa tanan although akoa gi try ang inyoha reply yes sayon ra pero ako gi try naglibog ko mao nag lagot ko kay gus2 ko mag upload pic dli ko makabalo mao nagluod ko .. pero i appreciate guys sa nyoha concern time pag reply sa ako favor. pls last na lng nahan ko kinsa akoa mas2rya ninyo para magkaila sad ta ninyo. salamat

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 9th, 2011, 09:39 AM
^^
madala ra lagi na bai. ayaw'g kaikog. putla na. :D
ana na lang, ihatag na lang ni @leylander ang links sa imong pics. siya na bahala ana. :okay:

leylander
May 9th, 2011, 09:43 AM
bitaw sir. i pm lang ko sir. sa akong username sa kilid, i press lang na. dayon send private message. isend lang ang link sa album ba ron sir. para maupload nato diri. thanks!

wise_zech
May 9th, 2011, 10:21 AM
[url]http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.


Sir basaha ni para unsaon pag post og picture...click na nimo sir...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=458527

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 10:42 AM
Video presentation of yesterday's Plaza Independencia Inauguration.
dYyjOxDxTvk

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 12:40 PM
nindotan kayo ko ani pagkagama videoha, makabuhi og kalag! makapabuhi sa pagla-um! payter kayo do! hehehe. :) :cheers:



Video presentation of yesterday's Plaza Independencia Inauguration.
dYyjOxDxTvk

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 01:07 PM
sa akong pagpaminaw balik sa video
nagkatawa kos gi-ingon nga "installation of new benches" kuno, nga murag ang mga benches man tos sa fuente ang gipangharvat, gipanguha nya maoy gibutang sa plaza independencia. nangahawan jud pod ang uban benches sa fuente, labi nas side dapit sa robinsons cybergate og police station..nya katong concrete benches gatuyok sa kahoy kay karaan naman to, sa una paman to.... bwahahaha! pagka-hanggawa buhata! :cheers: wa jud ta ani! :ohno: ahahaha!

majaba98
May 9th, 2011, 01:20 PM
Video presentation of yesterday's Plaza Independencia Inauguration.
dYyjOxDxTvk

Not very nice. I don´t like to white floor tiles, nor the wide open space it creates. Only few trees were planted. Not really a recreational park. Malacanyang of the South deserves a better fronting than that. At least plant more trees, coconut or palm trees, more grass and flowers, more benches and waste bins, so the public can rest under the shade.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 9th, 2011, 01:29 PM
nindotan kayo ko ani pagkagama videoha, makabuhi og kalag! makapabuhi sa pagla-um! payter kayo do! hehehe. :) :cheers:

^^ :D
mao gyud! lami kaayo mudala'g pronounce ang narrator.
@ 2:10 >> age-old 'acaysha' tree. :D

karon pa ko nga daghan naman diay nangaging mga pangalan ang plaza.

- Plaza de Armas
- Plaza Mayor
- Plaza Maria Cristina
- Plaza Libertad
- Plaza Independencia

:cool:

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 01:48 PM
^^yeah, 5 names...

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8226/marker1.jpg

Henz
May 9th, 2011, 02:53 PM
nahibulong bitaw ko.. kay kana mga benches.. daan na man na uy........
tan aw naku wala man to nila gub a tong mga benches sauna.. unya ila lang gibalik.. hehehehe..

hala.. unya apil nas budget na P/20 Million?

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 03:04 PM
Sorry, na late ang pics.....ehehe

This morning 04-09-2011
the day after the Inauguration, the works within the park continues but the park remains open.

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2123/pi19.jpg

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/9355/pi20.jpg

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/926/pi21.jpg

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4946/pi22.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6467/pi23.jpg


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http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/1121/pi1.jpg

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8584/pi2m.jpg

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1046/pi3e.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7858/pi4qf.jpg

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7388/pi5y.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2416/pi6gs.jpg

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/7938/pi7h.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5603/pi8e.jpg

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 03:13 PM
Phase 2


http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5246/pi9d.jpg

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/5544/pi10u.jpg

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8531/pi11a.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4849/pi12y.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5985/pi13n.jpg

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/129/pi14.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6996/pi15.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5581/pi16b.jpg



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In front of Post Office

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/8583/pi17.jpg

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/6456/pi18.jpg



I'll post the night pics later...:)


.

MarkiiBoi
May 9th, 2011, 03:18 PM
Sorry, na late ang pics.....ehehe


http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/1121/pi1.jpg

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8584/pi2m.jpg


kung gi straight na lang na nila instead nga gi zigzag ang concrete. :bash:

bitaw sa, mura'g katag pa kaayu ang plaza. Naa unta to sila'y central area nga gi emphasize nya ang pavements, trees and benches woud radiate from there.

or if not, they could have made leading lines using the pavements that would lead one's view towards the fort.

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 03:18 PM
^^karon, sa pics inyong nakita... Above ba sa inyong expectaions or below? ehehe
Atleast sa pics as of now samtang wapa naka adto ang uban...:yes:


@Parekoy, ma gyud na akong gipangutana ni Fr. adik @Redjie ganiha... Nganong gi hiwi hiwi pa man, og gi straight nalang di ay? Unsa may diperensya. Murag sagabal man nuong naay edge edge...:D
wa lagi ka art art ang architect ani...:bash:

bloodyred
May 9th, 2011, 03:31 PM
Not very nice. I don´t like to white floor tiles, nor the wide open space it creates. Only few trees were planted. Not really a recreational park. Malacanyang of the South deserves a better fronting than that. At least plant more trees, coconut or palm trees, more grass and flowers, more benches and waste bins, so the public can rest under the shade.

Sir, those are not even white tiles but plain 'ol concrete patterned to look like tiles or bricks.:lol: Nipis pa gyud pagkabuhat kay if one would closely look at the edges of each "bricks" mugulwa gyud ang yuta beneath it.:D

MarkiiBoi
May 9th, 2011, 03:35 PM
^^

mura man gani wala gyud ni gi design ug architect. mura paturagas ra ang agi. gi dali-dali ba to meet the deadline.

Jimbu
May 9th, 2011, 03:52 PM
^^ bitaw sa, murag wa jud klaro nga design sa architect. mosamot na ka bati kung di ma maintain.

Andrew_azuh
May 9th, 2011, 04:12 PM
http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/3729/dsc01090y.jpg

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 9th, 2011, 04:16 PM
^^karon, sa pics inyong nakita... Above ba sa inyong expectaions or below? ehehe
Atleast sa pics as of now samtang wapa naka adto ang uban...:yes:


bitaw. murag makaingon na gyud ko nga below my expectations :D
pero sige lang hatagan og chance, optimistic lang gihapon ta! :D

bakasaurus
May 9th, 2011, 04:19 PM
Manaway unta ko hahaha. Taas man gud atoang expectations. On one hand, nalipay ko nga ilaha na gyud gitarong diha. On the other hand, ngano ingana man ang design?!!

Mura og sa akong tanaw ang makit-an nuon nimo kaayo kay ang lapad nga semento sa tunga nga wa pod ko kasabot sa porma. I suppose it would look better when all the greens have regained their vigor and become healthy. But the use of spaces does seem like a failure to me.

BTW, bisan nanaway ko, magpasalamat ko sa nagpicture ani haha. Lamat bai slerz.

AmbutLang
May 9th, 2011, 04:27 PM
Sample .....

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.191753700850419.56099.100000473703319#!/photo.php?fbid=191754230850366&set=a.191753700850419.56099.100000473703319&type=1&theater

Hapit na...be patience...:)

Mahimo man from imageshack bai kang web hosting sa mga pics.
- Open ka account sa imageshack.
- Upload ang pix mo (mas maayo kung size mo sa 15 monitor aron di kaayo dako ang resulta sa pics imong gi upload.)
- right click the image you uploaded
- go to ssc reply thread, on top naay icon nga yellow 4th from the right nga murag bukid which says insert image, left click then copy paste sa image from imageshack.
- click preview post kung nilusot ba.


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Inside the prededarture lobby of terminal 5 sa JetBlue diri sa JFK airport. taken 2 weeks ago on my way to RDU, North Carolina.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7233/march2011nyc051.jpg
the store is on the left of the buttom pix
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/4359/march2011nyc045.jpg

Wolfranz
May 9th, 2011, 04:29 PM
I know the name of the project architect in-charge of the plaza rehabilitation ug ang original proposed design. The zigzag pavements are its distinctive feature kay modern man ang theme unta sa redevelopment. But I don't know nganong na ing-ani ka disappointing ang labas. :ohno:

Well, I already expressed my personal disapproval of the new design since it was released years ago. And seeing it now, I was right.

But for all the good intention of Mayor Rama, what should be done is to accept the new Plaza and appreciate the improvements. Who knows, we might have a government in the future who can be impeccably tasteful when it comes to things like this. :cheers:

DaVz
May 9th, 2011, 04:33 PM
ako wala man jud koy ka taste2x nga pagkatawo:D pero ok-han raman ko, maybe dili jud ingon ana siya ka impressive ang outcome sa Plaza but ang giganahan lang jud nako ani karon is naana jud siyay safety kay magbutang man kha sila ug daghang guards diha, so dili nata kuyawan magsuroy2x sa PI bisag gabie, kay sauna matud pa sa akong classmate nako pg college perti kunong delikadoha dha suroyan basta gabie kay kung ikaw ra usa seguradong ma tripan jud daw kuno ka sa mga bugoy diha :ohno:

basta para nako, ok-han ra jud kaayu ko, ok raman gani katong wala pa gi renovate ang Plaza (baho lang anso :lol:)unsaon mna ang nakanindot pero dili diay safety, basin ang ilang 20M budget ani is adto sa security gi bubo..:D

MarkiiBoi
May 9th, 2011, 04:42 PM
Yes, there's no question as to Mayor Mike's advocacy and drive. But while we admire him for that, they could have maximized their resources and used their budget well. I mean, is this the best that they could do of the N Million budget? :?:

Now I'm worried as to the outcome of the Jones Super Beautification Project. I hope its nowhere like this.

AmbutLang
May 9th, 2011, 04:43 PM
^^karon, sa pics inyong nakita... Above ba sa inyong expectaions or below? ehehe
Atleast sa pics as of now samtang wapa naka adto ang uban...:yes:


@Parekoy, ma gyud na akong gipangutana ni Fr. adik @Redjie ganiha... Nganong gi hiwi hiwi pa man, og gi straight nalang di ay? Unsa may diperensya. Murag sagabal man nuong naay edge edge...:D
wa lagi ka art art ang architect ani...:bash:

Rey, maayo nalang ni kay sa una nga daghan katagoan sa mga kawatan, unya ika gabii daghan pud mag tagotago mga uyab nagplanting. :nuts: :lol:

grattacielo
May 9th, 2011, 05:03 PM
Looking at the photos, definitely it does not pass our lofty standards. It would be easy to blame the contractors but there is a reason why they are incharge of the project and we are just here typing in front of our computers.

One more thing, we can't expect a teraces-like development with a budget of just 20 million for a large park.

Just my 2 cents

diehardbisdak
May 9th, 2011, 05:08 PM
^^ i'm starting to think that there are cities with similar budget for this type of development, but they've managed to have better-looking park!

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 05:12 PM
Yes, there's no question as to Mayor Mike's advocacy and drive. But while we admire him for that, they could have maximized their resources and used their budget well. I mean, is this the best that they could do of the N Million budget? :?:

Now I'm worried as to the outcome of the Jones Super Beautification Project. I hope its nowhere like this.

Mao gyud... Ipagawas pa inyong disappointments para ma improve nila ang Campana Maritima kay sunod raba after ani kay ang Campana Maritima na so gamit man sad ning mga criticisms diri para ma improve ang sunod nilang project og para maka amgo sa si Mayor Rama nga daghan ang wa ka uyon. So through our criticisms, mas mo strikto pa nuon siyag maayo sa sunod nga project like sa Campana Maritima.

Kaysa di nato ipakita atong disappointments pero mo sugot mo nga ingun ana nalang tanan ang outcome sa ingun ani nga project? So we should help with the improvement coz as what Mayor Rama said mag tambayayong tang tanan para manindot ang Sugbo. And criticisms is one factor nga maka panindot og samot sa atong Sugbo...:okay:

bakasaurus
May 9th, 2011, 05:21 PM
Amen bai.

grattacielo
May 9th, 2011, 05:22 PM
If the mayor himself is not contented with the project then we'll see in the coming weeks if changes are made.

If not, then iapil nato siya og blame.

Wolfranz
May 9th, 2011, 05:32 PM
Maayo pud unta if daghang taga City Hall ang nagbasa-basa diri sa SSC para makahibaw sila sa atong opinion bahin sa mga projects sa ciudad..

grattacielo
May 9th, 2011, 05:36 PM
Davao's Peoples Park is more than thrice the budget and its 2000 trees are donated pa gani.

diehardbisdak
May 9th, 2011, 05:39 PM
^^ enjoy na lang ko aning mga pics..hehe!


flickr pics by @Ehrhick_Bhouy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60404578@N08/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3394/5702869358_e0eb5ffc98_z.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2792/5702869166_9b9b01a694_z.jpg

diehardbisdak
May 9th, 2011, 05:42 PM
^^ ACC looks topsy-turvy from the top view particularly at this angle!

Henz
May 9th, 2011, 05:45 PM
nindot kaayo pagka kuha.. colorfol kaayo ang CBP... Mas monindot pa jud unya na ang CBP with the addition of greenish 1016 Residences and Bluish Alveo plus the Appleone Tower which is also multi color..:okay:

Andrew_azuh
May 9th, 2011, 05:45 PM
^^ enjoy na lang ko aning mga pics..hehe!


flickr pics by @Ehrhick_Bhouy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60404578@N08/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3394/5702869358_e0eb5ffc98_z.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2792/5702869166_9b9b01a694_z.jpg


^^

i really like this pic. CEBU's skyline is really amazing.

CebuMagigger
May 9th, 2011, 05:46 PM
i really sincerely appreciate mike ramas effort and all in beautifying the historical places its jus that the park didnt reach my expectations it looks plain and dull they cudv put mini bridges more colorful plants and water features like ponds they cudv done better with 20million pesos and they cudv hired an architect that is willing to beautify cebu with all his/her heart and with a great imagination and SICK SKILLS! the architect is pretty good but i dnt think he/she cn handle the pressure of having the deadline realy early mauna ang park kay morag gi design ug pinadali bah i hope these criticisms wil help improve and motivate them to do better and not end up discouraging them hehe

slerz
May 9th, 2011, 05:46 PM
Roam around mi ganiha sa Plaza. Mga kinalog nga paagi sa assessment :lol:
With the world class commentators :lol:
anyway, enjoy :D
azWMsV8TQFc

CebuMagigger
May 9th, 2011, 05:49 PM
^^ enjoy na lang ko aning mga pics..hehe!


flickr pics by @Ehrhick_Bhouy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60404578@N08/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3394/5702869358_e0eb5ffc98_z.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2792/5702869166_9b9b01a694_z.jpg

true the ayala ontop looks katag hahaha but the pictures r nyc bryt and colorful plus manindot pa jud ni sa FLB, calyx residences,sedona,1016 and appleone! :banana:

diehardbisdak
May 9th, 2011, 05:51 PM
...kudos to the CPA Management!

Pier 1 Terminal - flickr pic by @astiguysTOUR2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62525782@N06/5702582041/sizes/z/in/photostream/)
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1271/pier1.jpg

sugbuanon
May 9th, 2011, 05:52 PM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC04128.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC04127.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC0copy.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC04131.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC04133.jpg



no comment ko sa design.. :D

DaVz
May 9th, 2011, 05:56 PM
^^nice vid bai Slerz and bai redj :D mura mog kanang sa MTV Crib..hehehe

ask lang, unsa nga klase sa sagbot ilang gibutang sa PI?bermuda?carabao grass?TIA

diehardbisdak
May 9th, 2011, 05:58 PM
Happy Tourists!

flickr pic by @foreverkelly05 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25914779@N04/5701872138/sizes/z/in/photostream/)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/5701872138_4bd3edbe32_z.jpg

^^ i hate that "ENTRANCE" signage! ...whoever decides to put up that sign there, needs a beating!

:lol:

Wolfranz
May 9th, 2011, 06:11 PM
^^mas maayo nalang na kaysa sa katong signage sa fort san pedro ug plaza independencia hahahaha kitsch kaayo

diehardbisdak
May 9th, 2011, 06:11 PM
MCIA Mall :lol:

flickr pic by @karlhans (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34229254@N06/5695717277/sizes/z/in/photostream/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5147/5695717277_6cb755a85a_z.jpg

MarkiiBoi
May 9th, 2011, 06:20 PM
^^

the colors, the fruits, the buntings. ahh, very tropical!

MCIA, where its a fiesta 24/7. :D

CebuMagigger
May 9th, 2011, 06:34 PM
^^

the colors, the fruits, the buntings. ahh, very tropical!

MCIA, where its a fiesta 24/7. :D


dude lol i like that nyc one bai MCIA where its fiesta 24/7 its like a slogan :lol:

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 11:22 PM
^^ i'm starting to think that there are cities with similar budget for this type of development, but they've managed to have better-looking park!

yes so true, even argao has a very nice looking park... even puerto princessa, such a small city compared to cebu in terms of economy, but they have provided a nice park with lamp post even similar to that of the baywalk in Roxas Blvrd.. and many more towns that have created a very decent and well-designed parks with only small budget. Think about it man, Its not just any city, Its Cebu city man! a city of culture and history and this is just how they treated our city? a very mediocre park?

we could have planting and landscaping with lower budget but still looks nice, not necessary like that of the terraces. its a matter of planning and design, an ingenious and innovative ways and diskarte nana sa architect/designer.. a good designer or a designer with a heart can manage or achieve to solve any design problems in a given sum of money, with a better outcome specially that its a public and heritage project, for the people, its culture and history.

It should be part of the ethical responsibility of the architect/designer to provide utmost result to public projects like this with just an allowable budget. but on the part of the government, they should have studied the whole design first and look for more options before deciding what to implement. i hope ang area palibot sa compania maritima and jones dili mapareho aning plaza independencia, and think of it as a project which will be used and be appreciated by generations and generations to come, not just short term nga igo ra pod mahuman ang termino sa pagkamayor..bwahahaha!

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 11:37 PM
Mao gyud... Ipagawas pa inyong disappointments para ma improve nila ang Campana Maritima kay sunod raba after ani kay ang Campana Maritima na so gamit man sad ning mga criticisms diri para ma improve ang sunod nilang project og para maka amgo sa si Mayor Rama nga daghan ang wa ka uyon. So through our criticisms, mas mo strikto pa nuon siyag maayo sa sunod nga project like sa Campana Maritima.

Kaysa di nato ipakita atong disappointments pero mo sugot mo nga ingun ana nalang tanan ang outcome sa ingun ani nga project? So we should help with the improvement coz as what Mayor Rama said mag tambayayong tang tanan para manindot ang Sugbo. And criticisms is one factor nga maka panindot og samot sa atong Sugbo...:okay:

nya unsa to slerz pwede ra mo-adtos balay ni Mayor Rama for your suggestions and if naa moy mashare nga designs...hope naay snack or dinner! bwahahaha! mga baga baya tag fezz kitang bloodyRed atong opening sa plaza, ga-apil apil sa dinner pagkahuman gi critic pag-ayo ang plaza...ahahaha!

grattacielo
May 9th, 2011, 11:38 PM
yes so true, even argao has a very nice looking park... even puerto princessa, such a small city compared to cebu in terms of economy, but they have provided a nice park with lamp post even similar to that of the baywalk in Roxas Blvrd.. and many more towns that has created a very decent and well-designed parks with only small budget. Think about it man, Its not just any city, Its Cebu city man! a city of culture and history and this is just how they treated our city? a very mediocre park?

we could have planting and landscaping with lower budget but still looks nice, not necessary like that of the terraces. its a matter of planning and design, an ingenious and innovative ways and diskarte nana sa architect/designer.. a good designer or a designer with a heart can manage or achieve to solve any design problems in a given sum of money, with a better outcome specially that its a public and heritage project, for the people, its culture and history.

It should be part of the ethical responsibility of the architect/designer to provide utmost result to public projects like this with just an allowable budget. but on the part of the government, they should have studied the whole design first and look for more options before deciding what to implement. i hope ang area palibot sa compania maritima and jones dili mapareho aning plaza independencia, and think of it as a project which will be used and be appreciated by generations and generations to come, not just short term nga igo ra pod mahuman ang termino sa pagkamayor..bwahahaha!

Can you provide figures for how much others were spending for their parks? I've mentioned Davao's People's Park to be more than thrice the cost excluding pa the over 2000 plants and trees which were mostly donated.

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 11:42 PM
Davao's Peoples Park is more than thrice the budget and its 2000 trees are donated pa gani.

why cant we have that budget here? i think its worth spending, to improve and highlight our rich history and culture, specially that we are flocked by so many tourists because of that... :)

Zuburbia
May 9th, 2011, 11:51 PM
Can you provide figures for how much others were spending for their parks? I've mentioned Davao's People's Park to be more than thrice the cost excluding pa the over 2000 plants and trees which were mostly donated.

i think dako dako jud tog gasto ang peoples park, perti man pod tong dako-a og area and its actually building a new park, nya daghan kayog sculptures gibuhat nya naay mga fountains and ponds and structures like the geodesic dome and admin/utility bldgs., naa pay mga recreational play area, mura man gud og semi theme park and peoples park sa davao. whereas, ang plaza independecia more of restoration/renovation ra ang gibuhat, nga daghan giretain nga elements sa park like old benches, old monuments, old trees, what they did actually were just the pavement of the walkways, planting of grass and very few shrubs/flowers and trees, painting and cleaning of the monuments, installation of underground wires for lighting, installation of new lampost, and some plumbing sanitary & civil works...the park only has 1 set of CR at the far end of the plaza just adjoining the control house of the SRP tunnel.

Zuburbia
May 10th, 2011, 12:08 AM
Happy Tourists!

flickr pic by @foreverkelly05 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25914779@N04/5701872138/sizes/z/in/photostream/)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/5701872138_4bd3edbe32_z.jpg

^^ i hate that "ENTRANCE" signage! ...whoever decides to put up that sign there, needs a beating!

:lol:

daghana na bitawg foreign tourists cebu oi daghan nag masagol sa atong sidewalk mga bulagaw og buhok, sa una mga badjao raman to and mga blonde! ahahaha! miski sa abellana naa nay mga blonde magdagan dagan! :lol::lol::lol:

grattacielo
May 10th, 2011, 12:22 AM
i think dako dako jud tog gasto ang peoples park, perti man pod tong dako-a og area and its actually building a new park, nya daghan kayog sculptures gibuhat nya naay mga fountains and ponds and structures like the geodesic dome and admin/utility bldgs., naa pay mga recreational play area, mura man gud og semi theme park and peoples park sa davao. whereas, ang plaza independecia more of restoration/renovation ra ang gibuhat, nga daghan giretain nga elements sa park like old benches, old monuments, old trees, what they did actually were just the pavement of the walkways, planting of grass and very few shrubs/flowers and trees, painting and cleaning of the monuments, installation of underground wires for lighting, installation of new lampost, and some plumbing sanitary & civil works...the park only has 1 set of CR at the far end of the plaza just adjoining the control house of the SRP tunnel.

Yeah. If that's the case, we can't really expect big changes kay restoration man lang ang project. You can't expect radical design changes on something that is just resotered to its former glory.

But I agree that Cebu deserves a much larger budget not only for restoration but also for renovation and redesign.

TagaCebu II
May 10th, 2011, 12:45 AM
MODEL FOR PLAZA INDEPENDENCIA
Lots of nature: trees, flower etc..jobs and revenue for the city.
A favorite place to go on a nice weather day and not only for tourists.

Just imagine with Fort. San Pedro on the backround.
http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr296/riss_nystanding/Bryant_Park_3487.jpg

Lots of shades and a Carousel too for kids and lovers.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_70cadqLUbEA/TA1NeQwJTzI/AAAAAAAAAfw/GbujHf-KUsU/s400/Bryant_Park_3483.jpg

What a place to have a snack or to relax snd meet people after work
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_q4hD381dFc8/TLO2aZyRs1I/AAAAAAAAACg/2xwVjx25I-0/s1600/bryant+park.jpg







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Daizuke
May 10th, 2011, 12:47 AM
Hay im so disappointed aning rehabilitation sa Plaza, ambot lng mura man gi basta2x nlng pra lng mka rehabilitate kunu.. Gudluck nlng ilang beautification project sa Osmeña Blvd. Nag maayo ra bya ilang highly publicized fun run kunu nga pra nko pa pogi points lng. Way ayo!

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 01:17 AM
Mao gyud... Ipagawas pa inyong disappointments para ma improve nila ang Campana Maritima kay sunod raba after ani kay ang Campana Maritima na so gamit man sad ning mga criticisms diri para ma improve ang sunod nilang project og para maka amgo sa si Mayor Rama nga daghan ang wa ka uyon. So through our criticisms, mas mo strikto pa nuon siyag maayo sa sunod nga project like sa Campana Maritima.

Kaysa di nato ipakita atong disappointments pero mo sugot mo nga ingun ana nalang tanan ang outcome sa ingun ani nga project? So we should help with the improvement coz as what Mayor Rama said mag tambayayong tang tanan para manindot ang Sugbo. And criticisms is one factor nga maka panindot og samot sa atong Sugbo...:okay:

bro mao ba gihapong contractor muhimo sa campaña?

^^ enjoy na lang ko aning mga pics..hehe!


flickr pics by @Ehrhick_Bhouy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60404578@N08/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3394/5702869358_e0eb5ffc98_z.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2792/5702869166_9b9b01a694_z.jpg

nice! :cheers:

no.1ta
May 10th, 2011, 02:31 AM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC04128.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC04127.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC0copy.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC04131.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/martiano/DSC04133.jpg



no comment ko sa design.. :D

this is so cool Hard Rock, Cebuano style :lol: mayta madayun.:)

Sleepwalker
May 10th, 2011, 03:07 AM
Sa akong duda, abstract na ang style sa architect nga nagdesign anang Plaza Indepencia renovation...Kana gud style sa art, nga bati tan-awon pero to a trained and meticulous eyes, nindot diay kaayo.... :lol: :D

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 03:11 AM
^^
deconstructivism! :D

leylander
May 10th, 2011, 03:14 AM
Happy Tourists!

flickr pic by @foreverkelly05 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25914779@N04/5701872138/sizes/z/in/photostream/)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/5701872138_4bd3edbe32_z.jpg

^^ i hate that "ENTRANCE" signage! ...whoever decides to put up that sign there, needs a beating!

:lol:

that sign was obviously placed there for a reason oi. they didn't place it there just for kicks. have you tried attending the novenas prior to the sinulog fiesta? without those signs, people would be stuck there for hours in between services.

Jarenz
May 10th, 2011, 03:18 AM
Moony in Cebu (JSU-PSU Mariner's Court)

http://www.nowwebdesignphilippines.com/images/sites/2011-sites/moony.jpg

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mOjicAn
May 10th, 2011, 03:38 AM
Developer set to launch another residential condo
WITH units of its project Calyx Center selling quickly, Innoland Development Corp. will launch in June another real estate residential condominium development.


The company will invest P700 million to build Calyx Residences, a 27-storey “green residential tower” with 223 units, at the Cebu Business Park.

Innoland Development Corp. marketing and sales consultant Tetta Baad said in a recent press briefing that the residential tower is inspired by organic design principles.


She said the project will have Cebu’s first rooftop swimming pool and sky lounge on the 26th floor.


“The development of Calyx Residences was actually buoyed by the favorable market response of the company’s first project, with is Calyx Center,” Baad said. She said the company recorded impressive sales with Calyx Center, which was launched last year.


Calyx Center, which is currently under construction, is a 26-storey green hybrid building that will have 225 residential and commercial units at the Asiatown I.T. Park.


The P1-billion project is the first of three developments being lined up by the company in the next few years.


The company said it already sold 99 percent of the Calyx Center units.


Quoting the company’s market studies, Baad said Calyx Center cornered 43 percent of sales for high-end projects in the market, compared with new players in 2010.


The project is expected to top-off this year and delivery of units to owners is set in the fourth quarter of 2012.


Despite the intense competition in the real estate industry, Innoland Development Corp. chief operating officer Charles Vincent Ong believes the entry of Calyx Residences in the market would strengthen the company’s foothold in the real estate business here.


Ong attributed the company’s bullish outlook to Cebu’s growing tourism and business process outsourcing industries.


He said the company would still incorporate green technology and green initiatives into the project.


Aside from the rooftop swimming pool and sky lounge, the project will also feature Lanai garden suites and electronic golf cart shuttle service to transport residents to and from Ayala Center Cebu.


Ong said the project mainly offers studio units, which is the fast selling unit type, as observed in Calyx Center. The 26-square meter studio unit costs about P2.5 million.


Ong also said the company plans to expand its portfolio and is in discussions to develop a subdivision project here. He, however, declined to comment further on the project.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/business/2011/05/08/developer-set-launch-another-residential-condo-154295

Antediluvian
May 10th, 2011, 03:41 AM
Regarding Plaza Independencia, just like many forumers here, I don't like the result.

Pero I think ila nang gi-ing-ana (with wide pavements) to keep people from stepping, sitting, having picnics, etc. on the grass. Kay if ma tamak-tamakan ang grass, maguba ang foliage, thus making the place muddy and ugly.

hoopster21
May 10th, 2011, 04:02 AM
Our Beloved CEBU's Facebook Fanpage 195,981 LIKES and Counting => http://www.facebook.com/CEBUph

Jarenz
May 10th, 2011, 04:25 AM
Radisson Blu

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/djxd2/view/radissonblu.jpg

mOjicAn
May 10th, 2011, 04:34 AM
........Cebu dancing inmates to be featured in UK travel documentary

(SPOT.ph) The world-famous Cebu dancing inmates will be featured on It's a Woman's World, a documentary on UK's Travel Channel, after performing before the show's crew last week, reports Inquirer.net. Over 1,500 inmates from the Cebu Provincial Detention and Rehabilitation Center danced to the tune of "Hot, Hot, Hot," "They Don't Care About Us," and "Just the Way You Are."

The documentary's director and presenter Camilla Andersen told Sun.Star Cebu, "I have been to 60 countries and this has been the most incredible thing I've seen. I think this is a really good idea. I think there are some people who think it's strange because the prisoners dance but I think anything that you can do to improve the morale of someone in prison means less chances for them to offend the law again."

According to Sun.Star Cebu, the documentary will be shown in 120 countries starting in October.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/cebu-dancing-inmates-featured-uk-travel-documentary-051200560.html

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 04:44 AM
i think dako dako jud tog gasto ang peoples park, perti man pod tong dako-a og area and its actually building a new park, nya daghan kayog sculptures gibuhat nya naay mga fountains and ponds and structures like the geodesic dome and admin/utility bldgs., naa pay mga recreational play area, mura man gud og semi theme park and peoples park sa davao. whereas, ang plaza independecia more of restoration/renovation ra ang gibuhat, nga daghan giretain nga elements sa park like old benches, old monuments, old trees, what they did actually were just the pavement of the walkways, planting of grass and very few shrubs/flowers and trees, painting and cleaning of the monuments, installation of underground wires for lighting, installation of new lampost, and some plumbing sanitary & civil works...the park only has 1 set of CR at the far end of the plaza just adjoining the control house of the SRP tunnel.

pareha pareha raman diay @Zubs. Akong gi google (excluding Fort San pedro and the back portion)
PP Davao is 24X14 meter
Plaza Independencia 22x11 meters
plus (Fort San Pedro and the back portion 17x11 meters) :yes:

so kung apilon nato ang back portion sa fort San Pedro, mas dako pa gyud ang Plaza Independencia :yes:

btw, di nalang nako ipost ang night pics uy kay nanubra na daw og storya sa Plaza independencia. Maka lagot na daw :lol: Sige gud :D

jochval
May 10th, 2011, 05:07 AM
naa lang koy question aning brt ba, asa sila magbutang ug waiting shed sa mga bus? anha sa tunga japon sa dalan? di ba gamay ra man jud kaayo ang dalan sa cebu, mag dedicate ug 2 lanes para brt ug 4 lanes para sa mga private vehicles sa atong 6 lanes nga dalan, asa naman ibutang ang waiting shed ana ibutang? babaw sa footbridge??..hehe..basin ang pultahan sa atong bus kay toa sa taas wala sa kilid..dayon maghagdanan na lang padulong sulod sa bus...hehehe....

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 05:11 AM
^^ :D umh, FYI, dili na sya waiting shed sir ha. BRT station ang tawag ana. :okay:
and malagmit sa tunga gyud na ang BRT stations. try to scan through the BRT thread for more info. naa pud mga illustrations didto sir. :)

my take on this kay gamay ra man ang dalan nato dinhi, basi'g 1 lane ra ang para sa BRT and the rest private na. pero dili lang sa ta magspeculate kay wala pa man ta kahibalo sa dagan sa FS karon. huwat lang ta. :)

grattacielo
May 10th, 2011, 05:15 AM
Davao's People's Park is about 4 hectares.

Just wanna share this news article from last year. Our expectations are too high lang talaga.


City seeks funds for historic plaza
source (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20100303-256403/City-seeks-funds-for-historic-plaza)

CEBU City Vice Mayor Michael Rama plans to ask President Macapagal-Arroyo to help fund the restoration of the Plaza Independecia which was damaged in 2007 by a tunnel construction project.

Plaza Independencia is scheduled to undergo a major renovation that will cost Cebu City Hall some P40 million, but the project will have to wait until later this year after Mayor Tomas Osmeña shelved some projects in the Annual Investment Plan (AIP).

The funding for the renovation was supposed to come from the P75 million initially earmarked for projects of the north district barangays in the AIP for 2010.

A total of P153 million was set aside for barangay infrastructure projects in the AIP, of which P78 million was alloted for the south district and P75 million for the north.

But the mayor doesn’t want to touch the fund, saying he wants the next mayor to use the funds for projects he/she might want to implement for the barangays.

But Rama said he would not stop looking for funds for the restoration of the plaza.

“I will not stop because I know that Malacanang should also be helping. I have to check with the council in today's session. I-apil man na nako as part of the agenda aron ma kita an gyud na where are we now,” Rama said.

He said the preservation of heritage sites, open spaces, parks were something that should be given primordial consideration.

Rama said that even P40 million was not enough for the restoration of the Plaza Independencia which has an area of less than six hectares.

“Ug makita ninyo, giguba tanan. The issue para man gud nako, is that, it should be in the heart because Plaza Independencia is a heritage. Fort San Pedro is a heritage. Landmark man na so there is no doubt that it should be restored,” he added.

Plaza Independencia was destroyed in 2007 to make way for the construction of the tunnel, thus there is a need to restore the park, which is one of the city’s major landmarks.

Rama said the park had to be preserved because it is part of the city’s cultural heritage.

He said he was hurt when he learned that the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) only left P6 million for the restoration.

Rama said it was agreed with the DPWH that over P6 million should be allocated for the restoration.

“I'm passionate about it because it hurts me to learn nga ang nahitabo sa DPWH, ang gi bilin ra is P6 million for the restoration. And the destruction was beyond imagination. Lisud man gud nga I-argue nila (DPWH) kay wala na man na butang sa minutes. They were supposed to assure a certain amount not just for restoration but for beautification,” he told reporters. Fe Marie D. Dumaboc

Guba gyud diay tanan. Starting almost from scratch with less than half (P16.9 M) of the proposed budget (40 M) pa. And even the proposed budget, ni-angkon si mayor, is not even enough.

Bright lang gyud kaayo ta usahay

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 05:23 AM
^^ sus mao diay! :D

jochval
May 10th, 2011, 05:25 AM
^^ :D umh, FYI, dili na sya waiting shed sir ha. BRT station ang tawag ana. :okay:
and malagmit sa tunga gyud na ang BRT stations. try to scan through the BRT thread for more info. naa pud mga illustrations didto sir. :)

my take on this kay gamay ra man ang dalan nato dinhi, basi'g 1 lane ra ang para sa BRT and the rest private na. pero dili lang sa ta magspeculate kay wala pa man ta kahibalo sa dagan sa FS karon. huwat lang ta. :)

aw o diay station diay tawag ana...hehe..kita man ko sa mga illustrations ana niya nya kabantay ko naa silay mga station tunga sa dalan, pero maayo sa ilaha kay lapad man to ila dalan..di ko ka imagine magbutang ug ingon ana sa tunga sa atong dalan..basin pud lagi ang cebu maoy pinakaunang brt nga maghagdanan gikan sa atop sa bus..:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 05:27 AM
^^maong naa tay gitawag nga Feasibility Study nga on going ron para makita kung unsay usbon. Ang nakita nimo meaning mao nalang gyud na unya i haplak lag dretso ang BRT which will not be the case. Usbon man nila ang nakita sa FS nga dili Feasible para mamahimong feasible :yes:


re:mao na ang ka biliban nako ni Mayor Rama, naay heart sa buhat, dili lang puro yanyaw :okay:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 05:33 AM
aw o diay station diay tawag ana...hehe..kita man ko sa mga illustrations ana niya nya kabantay ko naa silay mga station tunga sa dalan, pero maayo sa ilaha kay lapad man to ila dalan..di ko ka imagine magbutang ug ingon ana sa tunga sa atong dalan..basin pud lagi ang cebu maoy pinakaunang brt nga maghagdanan gikan sa atop sa bus..:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

chur uy! :hammer::nuts:

wala diay ka kakita sa artist illustration sa BRT cebu? basi'g nagdahom pud ka nga kay ngalan na station dako gyud pero naa man pud ubang stations na gamay lang. magdepende man na asa dapit nabutang ang station kay kung daghan ng tao diha, natural dako gyud ang station pero kung gamay lang, gamay pud ang station. pero as i said, dili una ta magspeculate kay u/c pa ang FS! :D

bloodyred
May 10th, 2011, 05:35 AM
pareha pareha raman diay @Zubs. Akong gi google (excluding Fort San pedro and the back portion)
PP Davao is 24X14 metera
Plaza Independencia 22x11 meters
plus (Fort San Pedro and the back portion 17x11 meters) :yes:
Gamay ra imong estimate slerz. PP has over 4 hectares land area that's more than 40,000 m².
btw, di nalang nako ipost ang night pics uy kay nanubra na daw og storya sa Plaza independencia. Maka lagot na daw :lol: Sige gud :D
Ngek naa na diay censorship sa SSC ron.:lol:

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 05:40 AM
^^ay, kuwangag zero diay :lol: Sorry :D

here, repost: :D


pareha pareha raman diay @Zubs. Akong gi google (excluding Fort San pedro and the back portion)
PP Davao is 240X140 meters
Plaza Independencia 220x110 meters
plus (Fort San Pedro and the back portion 170x110 meters)



:D mao, censored:D mawad an tag gana mo post kay masuko man, nanubra na daw :lol:

jochval
May 10th, 2011, 05:42 AM
chur uy! :hammer::nuts:

wala diay ka kakita sa artist illustration sa BRT cebu? basi'g nagdahom pud ka nga kay ngalan na station dako gyud pero naa man pud ubang stations na gamay lang. magdepende man na asa dapit nabutang ang station kay kung daghan ng tao diha, natural dako gyud ang station pero kung gamay lang, gamay pud ang station. pero as i said, dili una ta magspeculate kay u/c pa ang FS! :D

ok...hehehe..pwede mangayo ug link sa artist illustration sa BRT Cebu?..mga laing nasud man gud to akong mga nakit-an..hehe

jochval
May 10th, 2011, 05:44 AM
naa pud ko lain question anang brt bay...kanang exempted na ba na siya sa traffic light kay moagi man gihapon siya sa dalan o magsunod japon sa traffic light??...hehehe

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 05:45 AM
^^ay, kuwangag zero diay :lol: Sorry :D

here, repost: :D


pareha pareha raman diay @Zubs. Akong gi google (excluding Fort San pedro and the back portion)
PP Davao is 240X140 meters
Plaza Independencia 220x110 meters
plus (Fort San Pedro and the back portion 170x110 meters)



:D mao, censored:D mawad an tag gana mo post kay masuko man, nanubra na daw :lol:

^^
IMO, PP is a recreation park while PI is a heritage park. and because gi-restore man ang PI, kung unsa man gani to sauna dapat ibalik ang original ambiance but also make additional improvements na pud. sige na lang. :)

bakasaurus
May 10th, 2011, 05:47 AM
Hahaha. Paita, kay man naa tay criticism kay "bright na diay kaayo ta usahay".
Don't get me wrong at least I will speak for myself and maybe even the others here. Kung nakabantay kay nigamit kasagaran og Kiss-Kick principle. If we look for excuses for our mediocrity, there are infinite reasons we can come up with, some are logical and some not so. But still, they are excuses and why must we settle for anything mediocre for our city?

Kung nakabantay ka kasagaran man nalipay sa kausaban diha sa plaza. Apan, naa lang pod nga bahin sa among hunahuna nga makaingon nga oi, mura og pwede man unta pa nga mas nindot pa to pagkahimo. And the details of those aren't so much on the issue of the BUDGET or the money spent, but in the DESIGN and USE OF SPACES and ACCESSIBILITY (mentioned by Slerz, Bloodyred, Zub et al who were in the place themselves) which is not really about the money spent entirely. Ang pagkaplano man mismo ang gicriticize. PLease don't get us wrong that we are just bashing our city for the heck of it. The criticism is done out of concern. We aren't just quick to criticize here but we are also lavish in our praise kung makakita ta nga nindot og maayo gyud ang pagkabuhat. Again, the INTENTION and EFFORT behind the restoration by the current admin is very much appreciated. Ang atoa lang gikapanaway kay ang EXECUTION.

I know this would look better though when the work is really complete. Pero mintras wala pa nahuman tanan, maayo gani nga naa nay mga comments ba. Sakto to si bai @Sleep. Mura og beta version ba. Mao bitaw nga naay beta versions para makita sa users ang mga bugs and issues aron mafix hehe.

@Slerz, bai hangyo please post the pics of the night scene at the plaza. The plaza is of great importance to our city and heritage so it is just right for it to take centerstage in our discussion in this thread!

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 05:56 AM
ok...hehehe..pwede mangayo ug link sa artist illustration sa BRT Cebu?..mga laing nasud man gud to akong mga nakit-an..hehe

ARTIST ILLUSTRATION

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/cebu-BRT/BRT-ayala.jpg

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/cebu-BRT/BRT-bulacao.jpg

^^

jochval
May 10th, 2011, 06:05 AM
tnx bay..aw mao diay ni, naa lay part nga gi one lane para masulod ang station...then sa sunod tikang sa mga private vehicle two lanes na pud...hehe...pero kada bus diay naa jud diay iyang lugar ra jud dili diay siya mag stop2x sa lain laing station iyang maagian???

grattacielo
May 10th, 2011, 06:06 AM
Who approved of the budget? Who awarded the project to the contractor? Who chose the plans and designs beforehand? Who has the authority to order a rework kay unsatisfied ang customer?

Half-baked man gud ato criticisms. It's easy to blame the contractor or achitect but not city hall?

We'll see if Rama is unsatisfied because changes will be made in the coming weeks. On the other hand, wa ta kabaw na kontento ra diay gihapon siya because he got his money's worth for a major major renovation. Perhaps dawaton na lang sa mayor whatever imperfections kay nakabarato ang siyudad by more than 20 M.

Again, it's the discretion of the mayor to order changes kay wa matuman ang gi-aprobahan niya na plano.

Pero sa ako lang opinion, we got what we deserved with P16.9M.

And @bak, poor execution could mean baratohon ang contractor/lowest bidder. It's still about money

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 06:07 AM
^^wa ko kahibaw sa Architects bai kay sa kadanghang ngan nga gi recognize ni Mayor sa iyang speech, wa gyud gi mention ang name sa Architect...lol Mao man ta nay importante nga i recognize. Dili sayop ni Rama kung napugos man silag open bisag wapa nahuman kay naka dungog ko sa balita last Feb nga ni promise sila nga humana ang renovation sa first date nga gi set sa opening pero gi move na gani og May 8, wa gihapon. Mao man gud nay maka lagot, ang mo promise unya diay to di diay tumanon ang promise. Ila nalang untang gi tug an nga di gyud pwede mahimo sa May 1 para di mapugos. Tan aw nako, pinugos man gud ang pagka himo maong makita gyud nimo sa itsura sa park ang cramming.:yes:

^^
IMO, PP is a recreation park while PI is a heritage park. and because gi-restore man ang PI, kung unsa man gani to sauna dapat ibalik ang original ambiance but also make additional improvements na pud. sige na lang. :)

yup bro... I agree. PP is more like a themepark and PI is a heritage park. Ma murder gyud ang PI kung pareha-on sa PP...:lol:
PI is very significant sa history sa atong NASUD, dili lang sa Cebu...:yes:


@Baka, ehehe. Pasensya na nga morag OA rasad kaayo akong reaction pero tinu-od man sad gud nga maka way gana na.:D Mura man nuon og nangasaba sa PM :lol: Pero I will bai later after lunch, kahibaw man ko og naka feel ko nga uhaw kaayo mo sa mga bag ong nahitabo diri, sige larga pa :lol::D jk ra bai...:D

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 06:10 AM
@jochval -- and those stations are probably for places nga gamay ra ang tao maong gamay pud siya murag waiting shed like you said! :lol:

imong next question that i do not know kay wala pa gyud ta kahibalo unsaon na pagbuhat kay u/c pa ang FS. excited kaayo! pero okay lang bai kay maski ako excited man pud. :okay:

bakasaurus
May 10th, 2011, 06:10 AM
tnx bay..aw mao diay ni, naa lay part nga gi one lane para masulod ang station...then sa sunod tikang sa mga private vehicle two lanes na pud...hehe...pero kada bus diay naa jud diay iyang lugar ra jud dili diay siya mag stop2x sa lain laing station iyang maagian???

Naay designated stations bai, seguro every few hundred meters..pero wala pa na finalize kay ang service plan mugawas pa na nigkahuman sa FS nga himuon na hapit. Mura ra gyud pod og LRT ba..

jochval
May 10th, 2011, 06:16 AM
ok...at least na enlightened ko ron...hehe..pero ang problema na lang pud kay kana ganing dalan sa banilad kay 4 lanes ra na noh??..hala ipalapad pa jud diay na...hehe

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 06:18 AM
^^problema na bai pero on going paman ang Feasibility Study so atong mahibaw an ilang solution ana... wait lang sa ta sa FS mahuman...:yes:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 06:19 AM
^^
aw, expect daghan road widening mahitabo sa cebu bai once i-implement na ang BRT project esp. sa katong mga lugar na mapiliang butangan sa BRT stations coz medjo mukawat man na og dakong space sa tunga ang mga stations. :okay:

bakasaurus
May 10th, 2011, 06:20 AM
Who approved of the budget? Who awarded the project to the contractor? Who chose the plans and designs beforehand? Who has the authority to order a rework kay unsatisfied ang customer?

Half-baked man gud ato criticisms. It's easy to blame the contractor or achitect but not city hall?

We'll see if Rama is unsatisfied because changes will be made in the coming weeks. On the other hand, wa ta kabaw na kontento ra diay gihapon siya because he got his money's worth for a major major renovation. Perhaps dawaton na lang sa mayor whatever imperfections kay nakabarato ang siyudad by more than 20 M.

Got you bai, but you have to remember nga we are criticizing the finished (or yet unfinished product). My criticism is regarding the outcome alone and I did not stray into the whole process that led to this outcome. Mura og salida ba nga ang overall impact sa salida ang gibasehan (dili ang cinematography, ang screenwriter or ang director). Most of us are not exactly familiar where and when things went wrong (kung asa ba, sa pagapprove ba sa city hall, or sa pagkaexecute sa contractor). But we can see the product and that is where we base (and eventually should be the ultimate basis for) our criticism.

@slerz; naa, kadugay na nimo diri magpadala pa gyud ka ana nila haha. Senior citizen na ka diri bai and you know what you're doing. Haha. Pero salamat sa pagsabot kay ikaw man mismo nagcge pod og panglangyaw sa niagi. Makaempathize gyud ka namo bai.:cheers:

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 06:28 AM
^^ehehehe. Bitaw, madala ko usahay pero naa man guy mga factors nganong madala kog samot tungod sa mga suliran outside sa SSC. Murag usa ni sa way nga maka ease, ang pag post post og pics para maipakita ang ka ambungan sa Sugbo or na interest nasad nako... Mao nga as much as possible, laugh laugh laugh para dili madala:lol::lol:
Usa sad gyud sa rason bai, kay kahibaw kos inyong gi bati diha :lol::D

Ang Suliran! tsk tsk tsk :D

jochval
May 10th, 2011, 07:05 AM
@jochval -- and those stations are probably for places nga gamay ra ang tao maong gamay pud siya murag waiting shed like you said! :lol:

imong next question that i do not know kay wala pa gyud ta kahibalo unsaon na pagbuhat kay u/c pa ang FS. excited kaayo! pero okay lang bai kay maski ako excited man pud. :okay:

mao jud lagi bay, excited kaayo ko, kay kadtong nisuroy ko sa manila kaduha na gani, nakasakay jud ko anang lrt/mrt, sige jud ko ug hunahuna kun kanus-a pud kaha naay ingon ana sa cebu, diara jud diay ang tubag sa tanan...:)

mas maayo unta nga maextend pud ang brt didto sa talisay labi nang tabunok sa south ug sa lapu2x city didto sa north labi na ng airport astang kapoy kaayo atang ug taxi taas kaayo ang linya..maayo nang moagi pud ang brt didto..hehe..ug consolacion pud diay sa north kay daghan pud taw didto..

peacelovah
May 10th, 2011, 07:59 AM
Kanang plaza independencia ba, butangan unta nag daghang kahoy kay init au pde pud i-JUMANJI ilang tema. Hehe joke. Ingna ragud na si Mike Rama (idol). Nya i wifi zone pud para madala nako akong laptop diha. Hehe. Ok and cctv plus 24-hours na security guard na magbantay diha. kuralon pud unta na sya.

majaba98
May 10th, 2011, 08:04 AM
[QUOTE=slerz;77460757]Phase 2


http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5246/pi9d.jpg

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/5544/pi10u.jpg

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8531/pi11a.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4849/pi12y.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5985/pi13n.jpg

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/129/pi14.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6996/pi15.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5581/pi16b.jpg



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In front of Post Office

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/8583/pi17.jpg

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/6456/pi18.jpg



I'll post the night pics later...:)


I did not know they weren´t finished yet. Possibly it could be nicer than what you can see on that video.....I sure wish it will !!! Thanks for the photos and information Slerz !

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 08:14 AM
Plaza Independencia @ night

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1135/pi24.jpg

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8582/pi25.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6337/pi26.jpg

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http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5060/pi29.jpg

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/888/pi30.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5637/pi31.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2421/pi32.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4467/pi33.jpg

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1111/pi34.jpg

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 08:20 AM
cont...

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/691/pi35.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8162/pi36.jpg

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/1847/pi37.jpg

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http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4879/pi41.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4350/pi42.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9526/pi43.jpg

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/8031/pi44.jpg

Andrew_azuh
May 10th, 2011, 08:32 AM
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1330/dsc01092to.jpg




Sample lang . .

Yahoo ... Salamat kabalo nku mag upload og pic dria. salamat sa tanan tawo nga notabang nku. hehhehheh

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 08:35 AM
^^ kamao na ka bai! :okay:

Andrew_azuh
May 10th, 2011, 08:44 AM
^^ kamao na ka bai! :okay:

^^

Yes salamat ninyo tanan sa patience pagtodlo nku guys.. hehhe

Andrew_azuh
May 10th, 2011, 09:39 AM
dako na kausaban ang cebu gyud .. 2 years ko nawala sa cebu bisan layo ko updated ko sa mga developments tongod dri sa ssc unya mga kugihan kaayo sila mag update og sa mga nindot nga picture nga gipang upload. Good job guys SSC cebu!

ivanc
May 10th, 2011, 11:02 AM
re: plaza

i think that big barren concrete space in the middle of the park was designed such that it can accomodate events/concerts/rallies etc, with the fort as a backdrop. hehehe :) lain man sad gud kung bermuda, mangamatay lng kung sigeg tumban... look at abellana

waterfront lobby is under renovation diay. the lobby is currently halved, with one side boarded up... the tarps on the board up say something like "expect grandeur"... well, we'll see...

rustyboi
May 10th, 2011, 11:06 AM
Cebu City eyes transfer of boulevard vendors (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20110507-335071/Cebu_City_eyes_transfer__of_boulevard_vendors)
By Fatrick Tabada
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 06:46:00 05/07/2011

Cebu City Mayor Michael Rama yesterday assured that the city will not turn its back on vendors who will be affected by the beautification of Fuente Osmeña and Osmeña Boulevard.

“Some will have to sacrifice but we will not forget the street traders,” said Rama.

He said vendors and stalls may have to be relocated to other areas to free the sidewalks in the city’s main thoroughfare.

Rama said he tasked consultant Paul Hubahib to create a program for the vendors.

The Cebu Beautification Movement Inc. chaired by Mariquita Salimbangon-Yeung aims for “zero vendors” around the Fuente Osmeña rotunda and along Osmeña Boulevard. Full article (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20110507-335071/Cebu_City_eyes_transfer__of_boulevard_vendors)


Rama: Restore sidewalks (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20110510-335615/Rama-Restore-sidewalks)
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 06:34:00 05/10/2011

CEBU City Mayor Michael Rama yesterday cited the importance of restoring the sidewalks along Fuente Osmeña and the Osmeña Boulevard.

“We must restore the sidewalks,” said Rama about the city government's beautification program for Fuente Osmeña and the Osmeña Boulevard.

He, however, said the vendors shouldn't be forgotten in the beautification efforts.

He added they should be placed in specific areas along the boulevard.

Rama also showed optimism for the beautification program as some establishments along the boulevard like Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas and Banco De Oro signified to fund their setup of their own front yards. Full article (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20110510-335615/Rama-Restore-sidewalks)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 11:06 AM
^^
the BEST gyud ni si mayor Mike! :okay::okay::okay:

rustyboi
May 10th, 2011, 11:07 AM
^^Mariquita Salimbangon-Yeung aims for “zero vendors” around the Fuente Osmeña rotunda - Osmeña Boulevard but Mayor Rama said they should be placed in specific areas along the boulevard. :? in any case, I'm happy with this undertaking :cheers2:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 11:09 AM
^^
mutukar lang gihapon ang pagka 'amahan' sa dakbayan ni mike w/c is also good. bitaw ayaw lang gyud i.ban kay unsaon na lang ang uban nga igo ra nanginabuhian. at least i-designate lang ang usa ka lugar para nila. lisod na biya kaayong kinabuhi karon maski ginagmay lang na. :okay:

rustyboi
May 10th, 2011, 11:19 AM
Plaza Independencia's new look didn't meet my expectation. For the Osmena blvd beautification project, I won't bother set expectation nalang para di ma disappoint hehehe, basta kay ila lang paninduton, nindot gamay o nindot dako, okay na kaayo ko ana :okay:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 11:21 AM
^^
basdyot o basdaku. nindyot o nindaku. :lol::nuts:

diehardbisdak
May 10th, 2011, 11:31 AM
^^ those night carenderias and those DVD vendors etc. fronting Regency should permanently banned from operating in the area...

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
May 10th, 2011, 11:34 AM
^^
buyag wala na didto dugay ra. :okay:

Sleepwalker
May 10th, 2011, 11:36 AM
^^Sakto na gibuhat ni Rama nga wala pud niya gisalikway ang mga vendors...Sa tinud-anay lang, OK ra man nang mga vendors basta di lang kayamukat ang agi ug di pud maka-disturbo o makababag sa dalan.

Anyway, kung asa man gani na ibutang sila ni Rama, OK ra gihapon, kay makapadayon sila sa ilang panginabuhi ug ang Osmena blvd. mataron pud. Win-win situation gud.

With regards sa standard, ani na lang...Ato na lang imagine-non nga naa'y first pass development followed by second pass..third pass and so on.

rustyboi
May 10th, 2011, 11:50 AM
sa Fuente diay, I was told na between June and August pa daw mu re-open both Robinsons Mall and Summit Circle (formerly Midtown Hotel). full renovation nalang ila buhaton instead of general cleaning and repairing damage caused by fire. also, tungod kay na close ang mall, ang Robinsons Cybergate napud daw ang pirme puno ron ug mga shoppers. :)

ivanc
May 10th, 2011, 12:03 PM
i thought may 14 ang robi, murag naa man gud to sign sa gawas... (taxi cab was moving too fast, all i got was the may 14 date)

rustyboi
May 10th, 2011, 12:08 PM
i thought may 14 ang robi, murag naa man gud to sign sa gawas... (taxi cab was moving too fast, all i got was the may 14 date)

ah basin pud. siguro the info I received about the delayed reopening refers to the hotel lang, and the company who holds office in the mall, July pa daw. I think they should open the supermarket asap, kay murag there's no other grocery store within the vicinity. naa ba?

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 12:10 PM
sa Fuente diay, I was told na between June and August pa daw mu re-open both Robinsons Mall and Summit Circle (formerly Midtown Hotel). full renovation nalang ila buhaton instead of general cleaning and repairing damage caused by fire. also, tungod kay na close ang mall, ang Robinsons Cybergate napud daw ang pirme puno ron ug mga shoppers. :)

ni li li mi, dako man diay kaayo ang gika on sa kayo, abot didto sa mag Bo's coffee dapit ang nasunog nga ceiling. Katong ist\uraa nga gusbat pa kaayo sa sulod, then gipang guba nila ang ubang ceiling, murag di mahuman ig 14 pero dunno basig gipas pasan..:yes:

re: vendors.
Ayaw sad nang totally nga wad on uy. Mura man sad tag datu nasura nga murag na irritate gyud ta ana nila. Para nako normal rman na sila diri sa ato, di mana sila basura. Sama as in Penang, mas datu pa nga country buy you can see sidewalk vendors sa side sa major streets pero han ay lang hinu-on :yes:

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 01:05 PM
Campana Maritima area as of May 09, 2011

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Zuburbia
May 10th, 2011, 01:25 PM
^^wa ko kahibaw sa Architects bai kay sa kadanghang ngan nga gi recognize ni Mayor sa iyang speech, wa gyud gi mention ang name sa Architect...lol Mao man ta nay importante nga i recognize. Dili sayop ni Rama kung napugos man silag open bisag wapa nahuman kay naka dungog ko sa balita last Feb nga ni promise sila nga humana ang renovation sa first date nga gi set sa opening pero gi move na gani og May 8, wa gihapon.

sa akong nahibaw-an si archt. Wong, arch. Zafra og naa pay kauban ang gadesign....mao poy ingon sa akong nakahinabi ganiha nga representative sa contractor (jetty ba to, im not sure) and nag supervise sa trabaho sa plaza...sa akong pakigsturya ndugay murag kutihan na kaayo akong dating, ang dating pod niya kay murag dunay pagkadefensive, ahaha...
ako man jud siyang gipangutana nganong wala pa nahuman og paint ang railings nga gatuyok sa fountain, nya akong gipangutana nga mao nani siya sir? humana nani? wala lagi kaayoy tanom og buwak, iyang nawong murag defensive kaajo, ingon siya nga ipadayon pa kuno ang trabaho, tsk tsk wa pa jud lagi ni mahuma og pintora, naa pa hinuoy idungag nga mga tanom...ingon nalang pod kog, aw mao bah (dayon lakaw)..perti jud niyang tan-aw nako labi na nga hingbalik ko nya gipangutana nako kinsay gadesign ani?...murag gisamokan siya nako, ingon ra siya mga architect man gadesign ani, silang wong og zafra...

basta hinghapit jud ko ganiha, kay hangtod karon wala pa mahimutang akong utok nganong giingon ato pagyama yama ang park...akong gisuwayan balik og tan-aw basin monindot ra diay madugay sige balik balik og tan-aw..sama sa music bah the more sige ka kadungog mo-nindot nindot na...pero dili man jud madala oi, di man jud maayo ang pagkagama, more sipyat pa hinuon akong nakit-an gahiwi hiwi ag pattern sa pavement, nya instead of curves and pathway gazigzag sa kahiwi.. klaro kayong wlay tarong monitoring and pagcheck sa implementation sa design.

sa part ni mayor Rama naa pod siyay sayop nganong wala pahugti ang supervision sa plaza and nganong gidali dali niyag pabuhat without thinking many times, or pagkonsulta ba kaha og mga urban design expert or miski kanang ipa-competition lang unta ang design..and ask for advises from experts, daghan man unta diri Cebu oi...usa sa mga beterano nas landscaping si Arch. Atega, maayo pod kaayo to harvard graduate masteral og landscape architecture....haaay sa pagdali dali tan-awa unsa atong napalgan, angay hatagan og insaktong panahon para ang resulta panglungtaray ang quality.. important historical place baya nis Cebu, diri napatik atong kasaysayan... dili ni kay sa unsa lang. kung sa music pa bah timeless, miski kanus-a pang panahon nindot gihapon... basin hingsakay rapod ni sila sa uso ron mga disposable commercialized art, samas music ani nilang britney spears og justin bebeir! bwhahaha..popish disposable urban design nani ron...ahahaha :nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:

Zuburbia
May 10th, 2011, 01:49 PM
Plaza Independencia's new look didn't meet my expectation. For the Osmena blvd beautification project, I won't bother set expectation nalang para di ma disappoint hehehe, basta kay ila lang paninduton, nindot gamay o nindot dako, okay na kaayo ko ana :okay:

simple lang nga pagpanindot sa osmena blvrd. ..ang importante is to give comfort sa manlakaway, og matarong ang pavements nga mga liki liki and mga tipak. nya uniform ang grading sa sidewalk and should be disable friendly applying as much as possible the full accessiblity law..tarongon pod ang planters nya i-uniform ang railings if naay ibutang around the trees or plants...
usa pod sa importante is to put all electrical wires underground along osmena blvrd's whole stretch...

basta dili lang ipa-OA og design, simple ra jud ang gipangayo...ayohon ang guba, i-improve ang planters and ang mga liki nga pavement, palinyahan og nindot nga simple lampost... mas maayong simple para mas safe ang design, di pareho anang daghan og arte, mabaduy na nya hinuon...:):cheers:

Zuburbia
May 10th, 2011, 01:56 PM
wa jud ko kadungog og pagpabarog balik anang carbon market og pagpatarong sa iyang palibot! makatabang unta nag accomodate sa uban natong sidewalk vendors...

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 02:06 PM
move on @zubs kay murag over na...:lol: Wana tay mahimo pero over all, it's not a total failure man sad. Maybe naay sipyat basta na hiluna ang Plaza. Di man sad ta kaingon nga gipanamas tamasan sa Gobyerno ang Plaza, kay naka dungog og naka kita gyud ta nga sinsero man si Mayor Rama sa iyang gustong mahitabo. And for advises, dili na na niya tagaan og dako nga panahon kay naapay daghan siyang atimanonon. Igo ra siya mo assign unsay gusto niyang mahitabo og ang department na ana mangitag paagi unsaon pag panindot og kinsa ang ilang i-hire nga architect. Ang buhat ra sa Mayor, ang pang hingusgan nga nabuhat ba gyud iyang gisugo, dili siya mismo ang mo check kay di mana niya linya, ang katong gi tudlo man niya ang naka hibaw sa tanan so didto ra mosalig ang Mayor.
So ang sad an gyud anag dako kay ang mga architect nga way ka art art. Sad to note nga ang mga graduates diay nato sa mga maayong skwelahan, wa diay ayo gihapon. Og katong taga Harvard, bati sad paminawn nga siya atong kwaon, meaning wanay pag asa ang mga architecs diri sa ato :ohno: Kana si Arch Zafra, usa man diay na ka board top nocher sa USC 2003 unya mao ra na ilang nahimo? :ohno: So it boils down sa mga taras sa atong mga graduates sa top schools nato sa Cebu...

Zuburbia
May 10th, 2011, 02:27 PM
Mao ni Park sa Coron town, palawan... nakahimo jud silag nindot nga park nga gamay raman unta ni nga lungsod..and for sure dili ni dakog gasto! pero nabuhat nila nga nindot..ingon ani pod unta mogama ta diri sa Cebu og public open spaces.. limpyo og pulido kayong pagkagama

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/227847_10150188275639041_610429040_6839041_6103389_n.jpg

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MarkiiBoi
May 10th, 2011, 03:35 PM
i thought may 14 ang robi, murag naa man gud to sign sa gawas... (taxi cab was moving too fast, all i got was the may 14 date)

sa Fuente diay, I was told na between June and August pa daw mu re-open both Robinsons Mall and Summit Circle (formerly Midtown Hotel). full renovation nalang ila buhaton instead of general cleaning and repairing damage caused by fire. also, tungod kay na close ang mall, ang Robinsons Cybergate napud daw ang pirme puno ron ug mga shoppers. :)

ni li li mi, dako man diay kaayo ang gika on sa kayo, abot didto sa mag Bo's coffee dapit ang nasunog nga ceiling. Katong ist\uraa nga gusbat pa kaayo sa sulod, then gipang guba nila ang ubang ceiling, murag di mahuman ig 14 pero dunno basig gipas pasan..:yes:




May 14 is the scheduled opening of the lower ground floor
which includes the Supermarket, the Food Court, and Handy Man. :okay:

The main entrance is now totally fenced off. A new coat of paint is already
applied on the ceiling of the canopy of the main entrance.

The ceiling of the upper ground floor is still in shambles.
And the fountain is already gone!

MarkiiBoi
May 10th, 2011, 03:42 PM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/227847_10150188275639041_610429040_6839041_6103389_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230318_10150188275739041_610429040_6839043_3834653_n.jpg


If you'll look closely, the lamp posts are actually solar powered!
Notice that square thing on top on the posts? Those are the solar panels.
I saw one (just one though) like this inside the Capitol grounds near the
office of the governor. Green technology! :okay:

bakasaurus
May 10th, 2011, 04:05 PM
Very quaint park in Coron. Hinaot na lang ko mas munindot na inig mahuman ang PI, inig mulabong na ang mga tanom hehe. Pero I agree, mas maayo gyud og dili na lang sila maghire og architect but ilaha na lang ipaagi og contest!

EdithB
May 10th, 2011, 04:29 PM
Okay ra man nako ang plaza, I think ang paved area is a multipurpose space that serves as a circulation element as well as a venue for social events with the Fort as a backdrop. I think it's quite nice. Maybe they could have done some hardscape design para mabreak ang kamassive tanawon sa paving. Also, the white concrete reflects sunlight instead of absorbing it. Nice if it's on the roof but not for an area for social events that are going to be held during the day. Pero overall okay ra nako, I'm glad they walk the talk regarding beautification.
Next time, they should have a public hearing in front of the city council with the architect defending his design and gathering input from the community. Maybe they should consult with a historic preservation expert if they haven't done it already.

Lastly ang ako lang comment nga daginoton kaayo ang mga kahoy, benches ug lighting. Batia sa ilang concrete bench uy. Morag gituyo nga ang mga tambok dili makalingkod. LOL. Bitaw if they add more plants and trees and benches it will look awesome.

EdithB
May 10th, 2011, 04:44 PM
Let's make lemonade out of lemons, why don't they hold a monthly paving chalk painting at the plaza? Like this.
http://www.kevinleary.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/river-street-fisheye.jpg
From KevinLeary.net

Testing I've forgotten how to upload images. They have to clean up after themselves.

Sleepwalker
May 10th, 2011, 04:59 PM
^^Great idea, Mam EdithB...Pwede pud kaayo, naa'y mga activities pero kanang dili pang-carnival nga mga activities...Para ma-lively og balik ang plaza.

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 05:10 PM
normal park raman sad na uy ang kanang sa Palawan...:lol: dili grand... Di mana angay ang Plaza Independencia ana...
Naa manay structure nga mak obstruct sa view sa mga monuments og old structures such as Fort San Pedro and Malacanan sa Sugbo. I visited the office sa Plaza Independencia and asked nganong hawan kaayo. Ang purpose gyud daw para mo lutaw ang ka grand sa mga historical structures without obstructions such as tall plants. So bisag mo hapa pa daw ka, kung tu-a kas atbang, makita gihapon ang lower part sa Fort San Pedro which is ok for me...
Ok ra ko ana nga way flowers flowers kay dili mana park nga ka date datan sa mga mag uyab or para pagwapahon, it's like a park museum maong gi ingun ana nag style. Bakikaw pa lang na ron kay wapa man ni labong. Water features lang sad unta to, pun an...:yes:
Ang nag design lang gyuy wa'y klaro...:bash:

Tan awa ninyo some of the most historical Forts around the world, hawan kaayo ang mga parks para mo lutaw ang ka grand sa mga old structures, walay obtructions nga mga strong colors :okay:

Angkor Wat Cambodia
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6859/anchorwat.jpg

http://www.golfofsiam.com/siem-reap/angkor-wat.jpg

http://images.travelpod.com/users/rachellecornel/1.1260792896.1_anchor-wat-to-buckets-all-great.jpg

http://images.travelpod.com/users/rachellecornel/1.1260792896.27_anchor-wat-to-buckets-all-great.jpg


Fort Cornwallis in Penang
http://popia.my/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/francislightstatue.jpg

Fort Agra India
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2197/redfortdelhi.jpg

Fort William
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/0d/9d/68/fort-william.jpg

Garden of the Generalissimos
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/9941/1002268v.jpg

isla
May 10th, 2011, 05:49 PM
The restoration of the plaza is not a major infrastructure project for us to expect a very impressive outcome. With a minimal budget, the outcome served its purpose w/c was to restore an almost totally destroyed heritage park into something simple yet presentable park. The plaza is a heritage park, not a theme park or recreational park. When something serves its purpose, its enough for me.
The Osmena Boulevard beautification on the other hand, is a purely private endeavor w/c I admire. Just how many Cebuanos are willing to spend thousands to beautify Cebu? So my kudos to these guys.

Wolfranz
May 10th, 2011, 05:56 PM
move on @zubs kay murag over na...:lol: Wana tay mahimo pero over all, it's not a total failure man sad. Maybe naay sipyat basta na hiluna ang Plaza. Di man sad ta kaingon nga gipanamas tamasan sa Gobyerno ang Plaza, kay naka dungog og naka kita gyud ta nga sinsero man si Mayor Rama sa iyang gustong mahitabo. And for advises, dili na na niya tagaan og dako nga panahon kay naapay daghan siyang atimanonon. Igo ra siya mo assign unsay gusto niyang mahitabo og ang department na ana mangitag paagi unsaon pag panindot og kinsa ang ilang i-hire nga architect. Ang buhat ra sa Mayor, ang pang hingusgan nga nabuhat ba gyud iyang gisugo, dili siya mismo ang mo check kay di mana niya linya, ang katong gi tudlo man niya ang naka hibaw sa tanan so didto ra mosalig ang Mayor.
So ang sad an gyud anag dako kay ang mga architect nga way ka art art. Sad to note nga ang mga graduates diay nato sa mga maayong skwelahan, wa diay ayo gihapon. Og katong taga Harvard, bati sad paminawn nga siya atong kwaon, meaning wanay pag asa ang mga architecs diri sa ato :ohno: Kana si Arch Zafra, usa man diay na ka board top nocher sa USC 2003 unya mao ra na ilang nahimo? :ohno: So it boils down sa mga taras sa atong mga graduates sa top schools nato sa Cebu...

I beg to disagree but I think na ing-ana ang nahitabo sa Plaza dili tungod sa menos nga abilidad sa mga architects especially ang mga gipangmention ni Zuburbia. Archt. Atega ang "katong taga Harvard" is a very very respected landscape architect, she was the top landscape architect of the Philippines last 2009. Aboitiz and Ayala Land count some of her clients. You can see her work in Cebu Business Park. As for Architects Zafra and Wong, I suggest you take a look at the original design they proposed for the Plaza. Although dili ko ganahan sa design but objectively speaking maka-ingon sad ko nga avant-garde ug maypagka ambitious ang design. Tan-aw nya gud mo sa annual exhibit sa USC architecture kada March sa Ayala. Makit-an nimo ang abilidad sa mga taga-USC.

Murag ang tan-aw nako nganong na-ing-ani ang Plaza in terms of design is because of funding issues. Tan-awn nimo ang design maka-ingon jud ka nga di ni mahimo ug 20 million. Di pa gani to detailed plan. I guess gasige ug revise and revise hangtod nga mao na ang outcome. Masabtan raman pud, gobyerno gud imong client.

grattacielo
May 10th, 2011, 05:57 PM
@slerz
Great observation. That explains many things. Did PI historically have water features? It should have been included in the restoration if the old plaza had one or many.

Wolfranz
May 10th, 2011, 06:01 PM
^^it has one, naa'y fountain to the left of Legazpi monument.

grattacielo
May 10th, 2011, 06:05 PM
I beg to disagree but I think na ing-ana ang nahitabo sa Plaza dili tungod sa menos nga abilidad sa mga architects especially ang mga gipangmention ni Zuburbia. Archt. Atega ang "katong taga Harvard" is a very very respected landscape architect, she was the top landscape architect of the Philippines last 2009. Aboitiz and Ayala Land count some of her clients. You can see her work in Cebu Business Park. As for Architects Zafra and Wong, I suggest you take a look at the original design they proposed for the Plaza. Although dili ko ganahan sa design but objectively speaking maka-ingon sad ko nga avant-garde ug maypagka ambitious ang design. Tan-aw nya gud mo sa annual exhibit sa USC architecture kada March sa Ayala. Makit-an nimo ang abilidad sa mga taga-USC.

Murag ang tan-aw nako nganong na-ing-ani ang Plaza in terms of design is because of funding issues. Tan-awn nimo ang design maka-ingon jud ka nga di ni mahimo ug 20 million. Di pa gani to detailed plan. I guess gasige ug revise and revise hangtod nga mao na ang outcome. Masabtan raman pud, gobyerno gud imong client.

Actually, 16.9 million ra.

I think mas maayo na ipacontest na lang nila ang designs para walay gubot. Daghan baya talented na mga forumers diri.

re: fountain
I think they should have included it. Ngano kaha wala? Budget constraints?

Wolfranz
May 10th, 2011, 06:14 PM
^^See, mas gamay pa man gani ang budget. I read that nagpahimo diay ug masterplan si Mayor Mike before ug mao to ilang na-come up nga design. Most probably ang nahitabo wala gi-specify ang working budget, so meanwhile zealous pud ning mga architects nga nagdesign with the best in mind. Unya sa pagset na sa actual funding, nakarealize sila nga ang original design DMD jud with the aligned funds, so ilang gi-revise. Pun-an pajud og time constraints, aw ang resulta adto naapektahan ug grabe ang quality sa design. I dunno but that is my understanding of things.

@ fountain:

yes, na-apil na sa rehabilitation. I've been to the plaza recently and it's already working. But don't expect something like a fountain in Rome quality nga gi-ayo jud ang nozzles, well-fixed ang mechanisms, limpyo etc. Nevertheless it's up and working.

grattacielo
May 10th, 2011, 06:21 PM
^^See, mas gamay pa man gani ang budget. I read that nagpahimo diay ug masterplan si Mayor Mike before ug mao to ilang na-come up nga design. Most probably ang nahitabo wala gi-specify ang working budget, so meanwhile zealous pud ning mga architects nga nagdesign with the best in mind. Unya sa pagset na sa actual funding, nakarealize sila nga ang original design DMD jud with the aligned funds, so ilang gi-revise. Pun-an pajud og time constraints, aw mao na ni ang resulta. I dunno but that is my understanding of things.

I posted an article a few pages back that ang proposed budget was 40 M. But even with that amount, kuwang pa gani daw according to Mayor Rama because total wreck daw ang PI and it would be like starting from scratch.

Imagine what 16.9 M can do. It can't even buy a mid-sized house and lot at maria luisa.

Wolfranz
May 10th, 2011, 06:26 PM
^^So the problem really was funding.

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On the design, what really disappointed me is the layout. I don't really care if gamay ra ang plants, trees or shrubs. Basta daghan ug grass and tarong and simple ang layout, OK na kaayo na. Coz kanang mga plants, trees, shrubs and furniture, you can add them later on w/o ill-effects to aesthetics basta you have a good layout.

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 06:32 PM
^^agree gyud ko nimo Sir, ang layout ra gyud sad :yes:

@slerz
Great observation. That explains many things. Did PI historically have water features? It should have been included in the restoration if the old plaza had one or many.

Actually mao man gyud nay tuyo ni Mayor Rama Sir, less ang obstructions para makita nimo ang Fort, Malacanang, Obelisk bisag asa ka tindog og bisag tua pa kas atbang. Si Mayor rama may nag sugo ana which is sakto sad. Daghan na kog naadtoang park nga naay historical monuments/structures, hawan sad kaayo. Purpose nga mo lutaw gyud ang kaanyag sa historical structures sama aning pic below, lutaw kaayo ang obelisk from head to foot :okay: Actually karon ra gyud ko naka appreciate sa iyang ka grand sa ingun ani nga set up:yes:
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6467/pi23.jpg


naay fountain og nag function na although wa nagka dimao pa ang agas.




I beg to disagree but I think na ing-ana ang nahitabo sa Plaza dili tungod sa menos nga abilidad sa mga architects especially ang mga gipangmention ni Zuburbia. Archt. Atega ang "katong taga Harvard" is a very very respected landscape architect, she was the top landscape architect of the Philippines last 2009. Aboitiz and Ayala Land count some of her clients. You can see her work in Cebu Business Park. As for Architects Zafra and Wong, I suggest you take a look at the original design they proposed for the Plaza. Although dili ko ganahan sa design but objectively speaking maka-ingon sad ko nga avant-garde ug maypagka ambitious ang design. Tan-aw nya gud mo sa annual exhibit sa USC architecture kada March sa Ayala. Makit-an nimo ang abilidad sa mga taga-USC.

Murag ang tan-aw nako nganong na-ing-ani ang Plaza in terms of design is because of funding issues. Tan-awn nimo ang design maka-ingon jud ka nga di ni mahimo ug 20 million. Di pa gani to detailed plan. I guess gasige ug revise and revise hangtod nga mao na ang outcome. Masabtan raman pud, gobyerno gud imong client.


At first, abi nakog ang 16 million, dako na kaayo nag mabuhat sa Park pero pag basa nako sa article ni @Grattacielo post #350 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=77500619&postcount=350), murag kuwangan raman diay. So naka sabot ko nganong dili kaayo daghag features kay limited raman diay nang 16million para sa ingun ana kadako nga plaza. Pero kung si @Zub pay pasulti-on, dako na kaayo nang 16 million para lang sa ingun ana nga outcome. Didto sa site, nag libot mi og iyang gi explain nganong bati ang outcome, sa iyang design. And @Zub said nga even ang detail sa circles sa katong sa obelisk floor, wala magka dimao, mga simple raman daw unta to nga design kung unsaon pag complement sa circle para dili murag putol ang design. So maong naka huna huna ko nga grabe nasad diay nga wa silay ka art art, asta simple design kung unsaon pag twist twist dili maka tarong og himo.
Didto ko nag kuhag base sa explanation sa usa ka architect nga si @Zuburbia against sa iyang mga mates nga taga USC ra sad.

So I really dunno kung manag lahi ba gyud nang observations sa architects basta sa ako, same nimo nga although murag naay sabit gamay ang design but over all, ok kaayo. Mas grand compara sa una.

this news today ang maka pama tuod kung asa gigamit ang 16.5million
CDN 05-11-2011
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4872/liquidation.jpg

MatudNilaBaby
May 10th, 2011, 06:44 PM
move on @zubs kay murag over na...:lol: Wana tay mahimo pero over all, it's not a total failure man sad. Maybe naay sipyat basta na hiluna ang Plaza. Di man sad ta kaingon nga gipanamas tamasan sa Gobyerno ang Plaza, kay naka dungog og naka kita gyud ta nga sinsero man si Mayor Rama sa iyang gustong mahitabo. And for advises, dili na na niya tagaan og dako nga panahon kay naapay daghan siyang atimanonon. Igo ra siya mo assign unsay gusto niyang mahitabo og ang department na ana mangitag paagi unsaon pag panindot og kinsa ang ilang i-hire nga architect. Ang buhat ra sa Mayor, ang pang hingusgan nga nabuhat ba gyud iyang gisugo, dili siya mismo ang mo check kay di mana niya linya, ang katong gi tudlo man niya ang naka hibaw sa tanan so didto ra mosalig ang Mayor.
So ang sad an gyud anag dako kay ang mga architect nga way ka art art. Sad to note nga ang mga graduates diay nato sa mga maayong skwelahan, wa diay ayo gihapon. Og katong taga Harvard, bati sad paminawn nga siya atong kwaon, meaning wanay pag asa ang mga architecs diri sa ato :ohno: Kana si Arch Zafra, usa man diay na ka board top nocher sa USC 2003 unya mao ra na ilang nahimo? :ohno: So it boils down sa mga taras sa atong mga graduates sa top schools nato sa Cebu...

... and he's getting unprofessional ug unethical na name dropping of fellow architects kon architect man gani nga tinuod nga may licensia. maigo na lang ta sa puro panaway kay tungod naay siyay knowledge about architecture bisan ug imo ra ranang opinion. of course ang city engineers office duna gyud na silay landscaping plan nga gi approve before sa bidding di maao nay gisunod.

grattacielo
May 10th, 2011, 06:47 PM
Okay. My last post on this issue.

For me lang ha. I will only open my mouth to criticize if
1. I have sufficient knowledge on the background and details of a project
2. I feel I'm better and more accomplished than the architect or designer
3. There is something anomalous and I have proof of the anomaly

Pasalamat lang gihapon ko tungod sa initiative sa ato city government. Satisfied ko as a tax payer.

slerz
May 10th, 2011, 06:53 PM
^^ok rasad mo criticize Sir uy kung unsay nakita sa imong normal nga senses. Although lahi lahi tag baruganan pero you should also respect your own opinion og i-share nganong di ka ganahan or kung nganon ganahan ka. Pero about na sad sa mga butang nga dili ta expert or wa kaayo tay alam, ofcourse dili ta magpa tuga tuga og criticize. But again, what you see is what you get dili kay what you see is what others get (aw sakto ba?:D) I mean naa kay kaugalingon nga pang lantaw so it's normal ra sad as a form of criticism...:yes: