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SkaNdErBeG
May 19th, 2008, 02:43 PM
Iliria Business & Trade Center


http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/urbania21/01_01.jpg


http://www.patriagroup.com/projects/designmanagement/images/01_04.jpg



Investor: Mabco Construction (a branch of Mabetex Group: www.mabetex.com)

Architect & Project Manager: www.patriagroup.com

Height: 50 floors

Status: Approved

Estimated construction start: Autumn, 2008

Facilities: 50 floor business & trade center, bank building, administrative building, 5 star luxury hotel, retail/shopping center, 4 underground parking floors, square, open theatre

ZZ-II
May 19th, 2008, 02:51 PM
wow, impressive complex, looks very dense :)

liburni
May 19th, 2008, 07:05 PM
Well what can i say, skyscraper frenzy in Prishtina :D:D

SkaNdErBeG
May 19th, 2008, 07:39 PM
I'm relieved that the investor is Mabetex... This gives the project very high chances of starting construction in autumn, this year :cheers2:

Alle
May 19th, 2008, 07:45 PM
I like everything but the bank tower, in either case it seems prishtina is ambitious (or a lot of ambitious developments are happening there), I hope it will be well executed.

How is the infrastructure there? Is it also getting investments (municipal, state, private)?

SkaNdErBeG
May 19th, 2008, 07:53 PM
How is the infrastructure there? Is it also getting investments (municipal, state, private)?

The infrastructure is at the moment a disaster, since its going to be built in a rundown and abandoned ex-industrial zone called "Lakrishte" - along with some other highrises/skyscrapers... But all the projects are made in accordance with the new urban/regulation plan for the area - in cooperation with Municipality of Prishtina.. Meaning this entire area will be transformed the future years ahead and the infrastructure will most likely be upgraded in a public-private partnership..

Alle
May 19th, 2008, 07:56 PM
Thats great, it probably means that these investors pay for the infrastructure as part of getting to build there, or part of it at least. And the whole area will probably be locally replanned and upgraded.

SkaNdErBeG
May 19th, 2008, 08:18 PM
yes... plus I know that (according to Prishtinas Development Plan until 2020) two of the future ring roads, will pass through this area... Also a tram line... and all 3 projects (this one, ENK Complex, and World Trade Center Prishtina) that are currently known to the public for this area - have several underground floors for parking space...

cello1974
May 19th, 2008, 11:59 PM
What a huge dense complex! :eek:

7t
May 20th, 2008, 12:39 AM
Prishtina is well on its way on becoming the "Hong Kong" of the Balkans, exceeding anyone's expectations with these monstrous skyscraper complexes.
Let this be a lesson for any urban expert out there :> You can never predict what the future will bring

R@ptor
May 20th, 2008, 01:56 AM
But is there even a demand for those towers? When we are talking about Kosovo we are talking about a tiny nation of just barely 2 million people, which is basically even less than the population of any major European city. Add to that the fact that Kosovo is not exactly a country with a well-developed banking or insurance sector and you have to wonder how they will fill all these proposed towers.

thebackdoorman
May 20th, 2008, 02:19 AM
That has been my fear all along considering that cities the size of Kosovo (population wise) do not have such projects even through their economy is better. On the other hand, prishtina is notorious for lacking such spaces (business, convention, hotel areas). I believe Hotel Grand is the only major hotel is Prishtina and nevertheless it is not up to international standards. Do not know about purely business or convention centers.

SkaNdErBeG
May 20th, 2008, 03:32 AM
But is there even a demand for those towers?

Do you think all these investors would rush into financing these projects - if there wasnt any demand? Have in mind, these are all private investments.

When we are talking about Kosovo we are talking about a tiny nation of just barely 2 million people, which is basically even less than the population of any major European city.


In most western european capitals, the question is rather if one wants skyscrapers in their cities or not... Not that much, if one can build them or not..


Add to that the fact that Kosovo is not exactly a country with a well-developed banking or insurance sector and you have to wonder how they will fill all these proposed towers.

First of all, the banking and insurance sector has been rapidly developing for years now... Still, many new ones entering the market each year..

... And luxury hotels (five star) doesnt currently even exist in Prishtina... There is a huge demand for hotels in general which Prishtina currently has no chance on satisfying, and there is no reason to think that this demand will stop growing the years ahead either...

Second of all, Prishtina offers very little real office space... Until now, the absolute majority of projects the last decades have been residential, with some shops/offices in the first floor(s)... With Kosovo developing, lots of companies settling, being established or expanding each year - there are simply not enough office space for them... Many companies have even been forced to rent or buy appartments - and transform them into offices (!) :nuts: Many others, have seen no other solution than build there own HQ (which can be alot more expensive and time spending).. With all these projects (Iliria, ENK, WTC, and more to come) - these problems will be solved. Plus, it will satisfy the needs for the future as well.. Investors think 10 years (or more) ahead.. ;) and this project will take about 5 years to complete

Alle
May 20th, 2008, 03:59 AM
Good point, it is largely because skyscrapers are not wanted in most cities, and its for good reasons, they are not planned that way to begin with and its not a naturally good way to develope most european cities.

I really dont like the modern banking sector, talk about fraud... :ohno:

With that being said good luck with the project.

luci203
May 20th, 2008, 01:42 PM
Iliria Business & Trade Center

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/urbania21/01_01.jpg


The Tallest building look imo like The Commerzbank Tower in Frankfurt.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Frankfurt.Commerzbanktower.wmt.jpg

A nice adition to the skyline :cheers:

AltiusAltiusAltius
May 20th, 2008, 01:56 PM
The tallest tower in Serbia!

Pirro
May 20th, 2008, 02:09 PM
^^ ok we understand.. you are serbian...:scouserd:
keep dreaming...:lol::lol:

beautiful buildings...

Triceratops
May 20th, 2008, 02:35 PM
That's just one amazing symbiotic project !!! Congrats Prishtina !

liburni
May 20th, 2008, 06:18 PM
A couple of other renders:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/urbania21/01_02.jpg

http://www.patriagroup.com/projects/designmanagement/images/01_06.jpg

Looking at the second render, it does resemble that Frankfurt building.

SkaNdErBeG
May 20th, 2008, 07:53 PM
The Tallest building look imo like The Commerzbank Tower in Frankfurt.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Frankfurt.Commerzbanktower.wmt.jpg

A nice adition to the skyline :cheers:

The similiarity is striking... The Commerzbank in Frankfurt is an iconic skyscraper... This one in Prishtina, might look just as awesome - but still I personally wish the investor would have come up with a more original design...

NeedForCity
May 20th, 2008, 08:08 PM
The tallest tower in Serbia!

:bash: stupid :nuts:

It's the tallest tower in Republic of Kosova

liburni
May 20th, 2008, 08:20 PM
:bash: stupid :nuts:

It's the tallest tower in Republic of Kosova

injoroe

ElVoltageDR
May 20th, 2008, 08:54 PM
I'm kinda put off by how they clustered all those towers together, but each one is pretty good. The tallest tower is quite good, a good centerpiece for a project of this sort.

SkaNdErBeG
May 21st, 2008, 01:40 AM
Well, it looks kind of obvious that the investor wants the different buildings to appear as individual projects... but still creating a dense cluster...



The construction is announced to start in autumn, this year... The project has been approved as a concept by Municipality of Prishtina - but the complex is still available for adjustments... The main tower in the renders posted here, has only 40 floors.. While we have inside information from the director of Patriagroup, that the main tower will have 50 floors (thanks to Liburni, who got this info)... Maybe there will be other changes in the design aswell, until construction kicks off..

AltiusAltiusAltius
May 22nd, 2008, 12:27 PM
Is this gonna be The World Heroin Trade Centre????? Albanian mafia annual drugs turnover is estimated at $30 billion... :ohno::bash:

liburni
May 22nd, 2008, 07:29 PM
Is this gonna be The World Heroin Trade Centre????? Albanian mafia annual drugs turnover is estimated at $30 billion... :ohno::bash:


troll:ohno:

Albaniaaan
May 22nd, 2008, 07:56 PM
Is this gonna be The World Heroin Trade Centre????? Albanian mafia annual drugs turnover is estimated at $30 billion... :ohno::bash:

arent there admins around here to ban trolls like you:bash:

ShqipeIvertet
May 22nd, 2008, 08:55 PM
Is this gonna be The World Heroin Trade Centre????? Albanian mafia annual drugs turnover is estimated at $30 billion... :ohno::bash:

how would you knw this. I think you need to stop playing Grand theft auto and start hittin the books. Troll

Plisat
May 22nd, 2008, 11:28 PM
Im in Priatina now...met some people here that are in buisnesses and one of dicussions was investment into buildings. it looks like the investors are seeing huge money in this market.
even they mention that this is now becoming big market, when people can make lot of money. Pristina is big and city in mosly in the small area. population has duble less than 10 years. there is huge need for this kind of buildings.
and in another hand pristina is just growing more and more....so lot of similar projects can be espected...i heard more than five...
if i will have a change i will post some pic from construction site....

G.C.F
May 23rd, 2008, 12:00 AM
Im in Priatina now...met some people here that are in buisnesses and one of dicussions was investment into buildings. it looks like the investors are seeing huge money in this market.
even they mention that this is now becoming big market, when people can make lot of money. Pristina is big and city in mosly in the small area. population has duble less than 10 years. there is huge need for this kind of buildings.
and in another hand pristina is just growing more and more....so lot of similar projects can be espected...i heard more than five...
if i will have a change i will post some pic from construction site....

Thats information is just so sick. Thanks for information, im very happy to hear that

Cosmopolitan
May 23rd, 2008, 12:05 AM
Kosovo's tallest!!!

EuropeForumAdv
May 24th, 2008, 06:08 PM
Great Project for Prishtina

EuropeForumAdv
May 24th, 2008, 06:17 PM
Has anyone have any photo of the costrusction

SkaNdErBeG
May 25th, 2008, 02:35 AM
Has anyone have any photo of the costrusction

estimated construction start: fall 2008...

SkaNdErBeG
April 18th, 2009, 01:44 PM
Illyria Centre

With a brand new design, presented in a recent advertisement for The Mabetex Group on CNBC European Financial & Business News magazine (February 2009)


Page 22 - 25:
http://www.ink-live.com/cnbceb/2009/feb/




A close-up:


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt111/Skanderbeg_2009/IllyriaCenter.jpg?t=1240009433



http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt111/Skanderbeg_2009/IllyriaCenter-1-1.jpg?t=1240010039

skyperu34
April 19th, 2009, 07:07 PM
Looks with some disorder but still interesting...

Peloso
April 19th, 2009, 07:57 PM
Well I guess the crisis isn't going to influence this project very much since we all know what kind of resource "New Kosovo"'s economy is based on... and THAT market sector is not in a crisis, on the contrary...

SkaNdErBeG
April 19th, 2009, 08:32 PM
Well I guess the crisis isn't going to influence this project very much since we all know what kind of resource "New Kosovo"'s economy is based on... and THAT market sector is not in a crisis, on the contrary...


What a load of crap... Do you even know what company the "Mabetex Group" is? Its one of the largest construction companies in the world (based in Switzerland), specialising in governmental and public buildings.. So much for your "you wish it was true" theory :nuts:

And Kosovo is underdeveloped (for obvious reasons) compared to most other european countries, that the financial crisis won't have the same effect...

Plisat
August 12th, 2010, 08:53 AM
This is what is under contruction at the place of Ilria Trade Centre...the part that it was a old hotel "Iliria" has been renovated and there is additional tower added from the ground. No one knows how the project will look like. The company didn't announce anything...but Im quite convinced, base of interviews that owner had in many newspaper it will be big.

P.S. For those that think this is a result of mafia. You better look the profile of MABETEX on many International webpages. It is one of world respected companies, doing construction all over the world.

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