Some pics I've compiled from the net...enjoy :D
http://community.webshots.com/s/image3/9/63/27/23896327LuYXwtDQPg_ph.jpg
http://www.micro2000.net/amerclubil/images/city_look.jpg
http://sg.yimg.com/xp/lplanet/asia/indonesia/jakarta/image4.jpg
http://sg.yimg.com/xp/lplanet/asia/indonesia/jakarta/image3.jpg
http://www.dis-jakarta.de/images/jak_bni.jpg
http://www.dis-jakarta.de/images/jak_skyline.jpg
http://www.dis-jakarta.de/images/jak_hyatt.jpg
http://www.worldexecutive.com/cityguides/pics/jakarta/jakarta_1.jpg
http://www.wkra.de/jakarta.jpg
http://www.biw.fh-deggendorf.de/alumni/2001/urban/itb/bilder/jlsudirman

One more:
http://members.tripod.com/~Jaijit/pic.jpg

this shot is taken from Mega Kuningan district - if you look carefully , that tallest building in the picture is actually the Mariott hotel which was recently bombed.

Directly opposite the Mariott (yes, within that circular perimeter) will rise Jakarta's future tallest building, the Ritz Carlton-Airlangga apartment, currently under construction. Here it is: (thanks to Mahaputra for the scan!):

http://willmaha.tripod.com//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/ritzcarlton.jpg

hehe oops unfortunately the photos above won't come out:

here are the two links:

http://members.tripod.com/~Jaijit/Indonesia.html

http://willmaha.tripod.com/jakartaproject/id1.html

now..........those are the real Ultimate!!!!!!!!!!!....Great pictures!

the beginnings of a great thread:guns1: cool nightpics

Great collection! I love that rare view of BNI 2.

Originally posted by Alvin

One more:
http://members.tripod.com/~Jaijit/pic.jpg

this shot is taken from Mega Kuningan district - if you look carefully , that tallest building in the picture is actually the Mariott hotel which was recently bombed.

Directly opposite the Mariott (yes, within that circular perimeter) will rise Jakarta's future tallest building, the Ritz Carlton-Airlangga apartment, currently under construction. Here it is: (thanks to Mahaputra for the scan!):

http://willmaha.tripod.com//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/ritzcarlton.jpg

No worries man.. ehehhe
I think I should post some pics as well.. eheheh
but they wont be the latest pics though..

More Jakarta pics

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/Jakarta192.jpeg

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/Jakarta36.jpg

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/Jakarta42.jpg

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/Jakarta38.jpg

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/Jakarta41.jpg

cool pics. :)

Wow! Far exceeding my expectations!
:D Beautiful!

Nice collection. I didnt know Wisma46 is so nicely lit up at night.

The pics are really great. I hope you could show more pictures of scrapers in close proximity. Superb!

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/Jakarta36.jpg This actually looks like HK!! Very nice! ;)

jakarta is beautiful. this thread is great. i hope to see more indonesian forumers in the near future. cheers mates.

It looks modern by some angle
Especially, In PP Building Pic
It's Ultimate skyline

We need to see more photo of Jakarta.:)

The city looks great from a distance. Especially the red roofs on many small buildings.

I miss the place!

Pictures of Jakarta

http://willmaha.tripod.com/thecapital/

Tons of Pics of Jakarta I compiled from the net and from other forumers (thanks to baqthier, alvin and greyx)

Enjoy!:D

http://community.webshots.com/s/image3/9/63/27/23896327LuYXwtDQPg_fs.jpg

Two more pics from Webshots (My favourite)

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/Jakarta79.jpeg

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/Jakarta80.jpeg

Originally posted by Alvin

http://community.webshots.com/s/image3/9/63/27/23896327LuYXwtDQPg_fs.jpg

yo alvin... where's the pic? ehhee

heheh...oops
http://community.webshots.com/s/image3/9/63/27/23896327LuYXwtDQPg_fs.jpg

Forbidden... come on , Alvin...

anyone got anymore pics of Jakarta??

Mahaputra...your collection is awesome!

Originally posted by Alvin

Mahaputra...your collection is awesome!

Heheheh.. thanks man...
:D I'm still not satisfied though.. ehhe

I like several buildings. Da Vinci, Four Season, Jakarta Stock Exchange, The newer Bank Niaga, etc... of course BNI Tower.

Nice collection of photos. Surabaya is far behind! But I'm surprise to see Plaza Senayan is not pretty from the outside. I heard it is the most prestiguous Mall in Indonesia. I haven't seen the inside though. But after looking at so many pictures on here and there, I become not impress with Mall in Indonesia!

The Four Season Looks just "Fabulous"!!!

Originally posted by teddybear

I like several buildings. Da Vinci, Four Season, Jakarta Stock Exchange, The newer Bank Niaga, etc... of course BNI Tower.

Nice collection of photos. Surabaya is far behind! But I'm surprise to see Plaza Senayan is not pretty from the outside. I heard it is the most prestiguous Mall in Indonesia. I haven't seen the inside though. But after looking at so many pictures on here and there, I become not impress with Mall in Indonesia!

I'll try and find more pics for shopping malls in Indonesia.. especially in Jakarta...
they're not all ugly though.... there are some nice ones... like Taman anggrek, future plaza semanggi... kelapa gading mall... the new WTC Mangga Dua... lippo Supermal and many others...
I think the problem is that.. after the riots in Jakarta few years ago.. many developers are more aware at the risk and loss they're encountering if the malls are designed with a big glass facade or something like that.. ehhehe
I reckon that they out more effort in designing the interior than the exterior..
for example there's the Plaza Indonesia.. which is one of the most prestigious mall in Indonesia, maybe second most prestigious after Plaza Senayan...
the Plaza Indonesia's exterior look is ugly.. but the interior part is quite luxurious and elite... :D
so yeah....
I'm particularly looking forward to see the PLaza semanggi, sudirman place and the Sports Mall at Kelapa Gading, where the mall has heaps of basketball and tennis courts outdoor, and an international quality indoor stadium inside...

Here are several rushed Plaza Semanggi pics that i took last weekend:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93semanggi_1.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93semanggi_2.jpg

I will try to get better pics next time...

One more Jakarta picture:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93jakarta1.jpg

btw, i think Plaza Senayan looks great inside and out!! Exterior is just as nice as the inside. you need to see it for yourself. Its hard to believe that Mal Kelepa Gading III (the new one) is almost a year old!! And there are even more commercial developments u/c! The Sports Mall in Kelapa Gading just opened last week.

Originally posted by GreyX

Here are several rushed Plaza Semanggi pics that i took last weekend:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93semanggi_1.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93semanggi_2.jpg

I will try to get better pics next time...

One more Jakarta picture:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93jakarta1.jpg

btw, i think Plaza Senayan looks great inside and out!! Exterior is just as nice as the inside. you need to see it for yourself. Its hard to believe that Mal Kelepa Gading III (the new one) is almost a year old!! And there are even more commercial developments u/c! The Sports Mall in Kelapa Gading just opened last week.

waaa....the plaza semanggi construction is going like a bullet.. last time when I was in Jakarta, which was july, there was hardly any structure showed.... I'm impressed...
cant wait to see it finished..
THE SPORTS MALL IS OPENED??? damn... I really want to go back home right now... craaaapp... still got another month here.. ehehe
how's it like?? does it look good?
yo greyx how are ur pic collection going?? are u gonna post it up soon?? :D

hey, the Wisma Mulia looks quite nice =) looks like a thinner/taller version of the GKBI tower. I reckon they should build more buildings along that road

Nice pictures!!!

Jakarta.... yeah, I miss this city anyway
especially those Hong Kong-like apartments in Taman Anggrek, I was there during its construction in 1996, long time ago

yeah man... cant wait to go back..
yo..I have an idea for a Jakarta skyscraper city meet..
to all the Indonesian forumers who lives in Jakarta,we should meet up and get something organized... who's up for it??
:guns1:

Hmm...do you have a list of known Indonesian forumers? If you have not noticed by now, I have a little ranking exercise in the first page of the Asian forums. Could you help list out the members so that I can start a section for Indonesia? :D

huaiwei

haha i'm already listed in indonesia forumer list...my old name was 'Poinsettia'

Originally posted by huaiwei
Hmm...do you have a list of known Indonesian forumers? If you have not noticed by now, I have a little ranking exercise in the first page of the Asian forums. Could you help list out the members so that I can start a section for Indonesia? :D

I'm already in the pinoy list, so do i count here??:D hehe

Originally posted by GreyX

I'm already in the pinoy list, so do i count here??:D hehe

well.. from my opinion.. u can be an indonesian forumer.. since u live in Jakarta, and u represent manila and jakarta.. so yeah , why not.. ehhee
let's see.. there's me, alvin, greyx, teddybear?, perekamuda? who else is there?? anyone lives in Jakarta besides me, alvin and greyx?? do we only have 3 jakarta forumer?

Wow thanks for those rare shots, grey!

yeah.. they're great.. keep updating it.. ehehhe we want to see the progress... ehehe
anyway.. anyone know what happened to the sudirman place/ the pinnacle?? has it started the construction? and does anyone has any ritz carlton construction photos... that'll be great..
future indonesia's tallest building..

Huaiwei, keep going

I am purely Indonesian....
and "skyscrapers freak"
....and still an Indonesian citizen though since 1998 have been working and living in Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei Darussalam
(hopefully Dubai-UAE by next year )

Thanks dudes....but this is getting quite difficult to track. How about someone volunteer to track out all the indonesian forumers, and post a list here, or will i hv to do the not-so-nice task of appointing someone? ;)

ehehehe.. this is funny.. noone has posted anything since u posted ur last message huaiwei.. ehehhe :D

Good news for Jakarta...
monorail is gonna be built either at the end of this year or start of next year.. and it's gonna be completed by 2005

Originally posted by Mahaputra

ehehehe.. this is funny.. noone has posted anything since u posted ur last message huaiwei.. ehehhe :D I seem to have a knack for killing threads....:rant: :D Seriously...no one wanna volunteer this simple thingy?

not me :angel1:

yo.. anyone has new pics of Jakarta?? we havent seen any new pics of jakarta recently... since greyx posted a few pics last time...
looking forward to see the pics.. ;)

Hopefully, i could go around the CBD area to take pics this weekend. And hopefully, i wont be all smoggy like it normally is...I havent seen blue sky here in Jakarta since June!!!:rant: Always, smoggy, always polluted!!

Originally posted by GreyX

Hopefully, i could go around the CBD area to take pics this weekend. And hopefully, i wont be all smoggy like it normally is...I havent seen blue sky here in Jakarta since June!!!:rant: Always, smoggy, always polluted!!

hehehe... if u want a blue sky.. wait until there's a riot.. then the sky will be blue.. no cars.. noone on the road.. except the riot-ers.. ehehe :guns1:

I heard that pollution in Jkt is getting worst. My friend said there is this dark smog hanging at night.

It is scart to think of the consequences people live in Jkt will pay for their health.

Speaking about riots, I just talked with somebody from Jkt. She is not in Jkt any more, but her house is close to a burning house, and also to a burnt apartment where the notorious gang rape happened. Anybody has the photo of that apartment? Must be nobody live there! I heard it is a project by Tommy. Is this right?

Originally posted by teddybear

I heard that pollution in Jkt is getting worst. My friend said there is this dark smog hanging at night.

It is scart to think of the consequences people live in Jkt will pay for their health.

Speaking about riots, I just talked with somebody from Jkt. She is not in Jkt any more, but her house is close to a burning house, and also to a burnt apartment where the notorious gang rape happened. Anybody has the photo of that apartment? Must be nobody live there! I heard it is a project by Tommy. Is this right?

gang rape? riot? recently? I havent heard any riots happened recently... probably it was the may 1998 riots.. there was a lot of burnings and rapes at that time... a number of houses across my suburb got burned down.... that's when the sky was clear and blue.. I could see the mountains from the balcony of my house at that time.. ehhee

yeah, most probably it was 1998...

Jakarta has horrible pollution nowadays. It is smoggy every single day!! Before, it used to be clear on some days, smoggy on other days, now it is smoggy everyday:(

Originally posted by GreyX

yeah, most probably it was 1998...

Jakarta has horrible pollution nowadays. It is smoggy every single day!! Before, it used to be clear on some days, smoggy on other days, now it is smoggy everyday:(

Yeah I agree.. the pollution level in Jakarta is getting out of control.. mainly caused by the motor vehicles that dont have a good emission system... most of the buses in Jakarta let out a huge amount of thick black smog from it's exhaust... :rant:

that's why its in desparate need of a good mass rapid transport system...:rant:

Yeah... cant wait to see the monorail and subway to be built in Jakarta...;)

Mega Glodok in Kemayoran - Twin 35 storey glassy buildings u/c! :)
From Mega Glodok site
http://www.megaglodok.com/

As on 31st July, 2003
http://www.megaglodok.com/IMAGES/pili1.jpg
http://www.megaglodok.com/IMAGES/pili2.jpg

As on 31st August, 2003
http://www.megaglodok.com/IMAGES/pro1.jpg

Any of as just now? :)

cool!:) just to point out that the second picture shows some stalled apartment projects back from 1997 (hit by the crisis). i wonder if they'll ever resume...or whether new projects will be drawn up which means taht they will have to be demolished. hmmmmm

so its worst than Manila?? just wondering

Originally posted by The Pride

so its worst than Manila?? just wondering

what's worst than manila??

great skyline and building:okay:

where is this megaglodok is actually located?? in the second picture, the stalled apartments at the background looks like the apartments near the Jakarta Fair Grounds..

Yeah it's located in Kemayoran, near PRJ

oohh.. okay... that makes sense now.. ehehhe
thanks alvin..

Monorail project news.... accordding to ITC(Indonesia Transit Central) and MTrans Malaysia, there will be 24 monorail stations and the length of the track will be twice as long as the one in KL..
The project is estimated to be completed by March 2006

where'd u hear the news, mahaputra?

A few Jakarta pictures of cancelled jakarta projects from 1997:
the 558 m Jakarta Tower:
http://www.wiratman.co.id/ximages/xmjakarta.jpg
The Westin Kartika Tower:
http://www.wiratman.co.id/ximages/xwestin.jpg
BDNI Centre (317 m)
http://www.wiratman.co.id/ximages/xbdni.jpg
Niaga Tower II (the left one):
http://www.wiratman.co.id/ximages/xniaga2.jpg
Graha Kuningan:
http://www.9thgames.org.cn/zuweihui/chenjian/img/3_2_1.jpg

damn, those would have been nice!! all of them look amazing!!:eek: t0o bad they are cancelled:(

one more..
Kuningan Persada Tower
http://www.geocities.com/PicketFence/5192/kpt.jpg
and a couple interesting Jakarta Tower proposals:
http://www.toto.co.jp/GALLERMA/hist/im/exhibi/53orig/jahnhe.jpg http://www.thecityreview.com/sky39e.gif

Originally posted by Alvin

where'd u hear the news, mahaputra?

from beritajakarta.com and other sources like jawapos.com and kompas.com

If I'm not mistaken, the kuningan persada tower would've been 451.2 m tall... and that's not including the spire.. ehehhe
so yeah.. Jakarta almost had the tallest building in the world.... bloody monetary crisis..:rant: everything's postponed now.. like the BDNI centre (Baby Bank of China) that's a really cool design... and it was built halfway as well.. >( damn

Well, not halfway...only the base is built, so 1/8th of the building??:D

Construction of monorail project will start this december... the city council will build 26 stations (not 24) with a 27km monorail track around the city.. The station will start from Kampung Melayu to Tebet, to Casablanca, to Sudirman, to Tanah Abang, Lontar, Kebon Kacang, Jatibaru and Cideng.
The project will take about 2.5 years..
There are also plans on extending the monorail track to Tangerang and Bekasi.

Source: www.Beritajakarta.com

yo.. does anyone has recent pics of jakarta and it's constructions??
hey greyx.. how's ur pics goin??:D

Originally posted by Mahaputra
yo.. does anyone has recent pics of jakarta and it's constructions??
hey greyx.. how's ur pics goin??:D

sorry but uh, i dont have my digicam this week. My dad took it to Hong Kong...hopefully next week. Sorry guys. I know you've been waiting soooo long... I just havent had the perfect opportunity to go downtown and take pics.

yo.. no worries greyx.. doesnt matter.. I'm going back to Jakarta in 2 weeks time anyway.. ehehehe then I can post some pics as well..
we should make a Jakarta meet.. or something like that.. maybe alvin might want to join and other forumers who's going to be in Jakarta at the end of the year
what do u think?:D

was the asian economical depression so bad to stop all those wonderful projetcs????? aren´t they rethinking about building them now that the situation´s getting better???? I red in a spanish newspaper that the ¿JW Marriott? (the hotel of the bomb) was cancelled during the crisis and that then, a chinese tycoon gave the money to build it.........

yes... it was quite bad.. hhehe sadly..
but now, the economy is slowly recovering..
some of the projects that are postponed during the crisis has been continued but not all, as they have to find new investors to provide money to built all these wonderful buildings..
I really hope that the BDNI centre (Baby BoC) project will be resumed... that building will be a major landmark for Indonesia..

Oh yes..i am going to move Jakarta soon to see my wife ..wohooo!

I am kiwi representing Indonesia (heh, its not because my wife is indonesian :bash: )

so whats up folks? i've been there for 6 months but in Surabaya, any idea where we can meet next year? some irish bar maybe? :cheers: :baaa: :cheers:

So, you've never been to Jakarta?

btw, i replied to your post in the Good news thread in the Phil forums.

METRO SURABAYA APRIL 1998

Some pictures by bjorn, from indonesiaphoto
http://www.indonesiaphoto.com/albums/surabaya/566_Surabaya.jpg

http://www.indonesiaphoto.com/albums/surabaya/567_Surabaya.jpg


Surabaya kick ass ! i wonder what it looks today?

Jakarta view by again...Bjorn...

http://www.indonesiaphoto.com/albums/jakarta/2862_Jakarta.jpg

http://www.indonesiaphoto.com/albums/jakarta/3145_Jakarta.jpg

http://www.indonesiaphoto.com/albums/jakarta/2166_Jakarta.jpg


Greyx, yeah i got it, thanks matey, Where about in Jakarta? I will stay in menteng apartement. see you there mate !

Sweet!! We never got to really see much of Surabaya. Thanks!:)
There are so many houses near the buildings though...All with orange roofs:D Jakarta seems to have more trees, if im not mistaken.

I think Surabaya looks the same now as it did then...more or less. Construction halted for a long period of time and its only this year that its picking up again (especially in Jakarta, dont know about Surabaya).

I will see...where in Menteng? I have a couple of friends living in Menteng apartments too.

Nice Jakarta pics, too. I especially like the second one:okay:And of course you'd expect to see a Toyota Kijang in those ground level pics;)

Wow welcome to the forum David! Those are great pics of Surabaya.
Here are some pics of Surabaya including the glassy Eastin Hotel ;)

http://www.pbase.com/image/7534467
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/9surabaya2.jpg

visit the website below for pics compiled by forumer teddybear
http://www.pbase.com/teddybear/surabaya
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/9surabaya1.jpg

Surabaya harbour with their famous comrade, surabaya got their own "liberty monument" :cheers:

http://p.vtourist.com/626030.jpg


Surabaya new terminal, will finish by december 2005, thats what i heard from friend of mine who works in their construction.

http://www.juanda-airport.com/pics/dev_terminal_baru2.jpg

http://www.juanda-airport.com/pics/dev_tower2.jpg

The tower will have 15 storey and it will be the 3rd biggest airport after Bali or maybe 4th biggest?? after Batam i reckon.
any idea?

btw thanks bhaqtier ! :D

greyx: its called taman executive menteng, tell me bout the place please, any good? thanks :D :D :D:cheers:

Those are best of Surabaya I've seen :eek:

BTW, I've seen a pic of Ujung Pandang airport in Sulawesi. I really love the Malay ataps design!

Fantastic Pictures of Surabaya! ;) These pics really justify starting a new surabaya thread altogether...after all, this is a Jakarta thread.:cool:

welcome to the forum david...
glad that there's another forumer representing Indonesia...
:D

Surabaya is getting back on track in constructions and projects..
there's the suramadu bridge.. , a couple shopping centres and WTCs... like Darmo trade centre, pakuwon trade centre.. and others..
I'll try and find some pics of them

hey all!
A new major apartment project is underway in Jakarta.

[B]Name[\B]: The Peak

[B]Location[\B]: Jl Jendral Sudirman (CBD)

[B]Consists of[\B]: 4 Towers - 2 55 storey towers, and 2 35 storey towers. 370 units.
The developer claims that it'll be the new tallest building in Jakarta...although I'm not too sure how it compares with the AIrlangga/Ritz Carlton apartments.

[B]Completion[\B]: Late 2005

Source: http://www.bisnisproperti.com/property/art_detail.asp?id=4044 (in Indonesian)

Alvin & Mahaputra thanks matey !

Alvin : sweet, 55 storey thats almost exactly 5 storey higher than rialto tower or collins st tower in Melbourne. cool !:cheers: :baaa:


so if ritz and the Peak completed by 2005, means Jakarta have the highest building in southern hemisphere??? :?

cuz i know BNI46 is the 2nd highest building in southern hemisphere, according to some websites.

any idea folks?

btw whos gonna start the Surabaya thread? :dj: :dj:

Originally posted by David-80

Alvin & Mahaputra thanks matey !

Alvin : sweet, 55 storey thats almost exactly 5 storey higher than rialto tower or collins st tower in Melbourne. cool !:cheers: :baaa:


so if ritz and the Peak completed by 2005, means Jakarta have the highest building in southern hemisphere??? :?

cuz i know BNI46 is the 2nd highest building in southern hemisphere, according to some websites.

any idea folks?

btw whos gonna start the Surabaya thread? :dj: :dj:

You probably forget the 91 storey height Eureka Tower in Melbourne Southbank, it's complete in 2005

Argh yeah i forgot them, but anyway Eric, the eureka is only 300m rite? i thought the Ritz apartement in jakarta higher than that? 300m+ or something?

http://www.infolink.com.au/articles/41/0c00e541.asp

At 300m the 88-storey Eureka Tower being developed at Melbourne’s Southgate precinct as a joint venture between Grocon, Melbourne investor Tab Fried and architects Nonda Katsalidis and Karl Fender will become the tallest apartment building in the world. Built by Grocon Constructors (Grocon) on a relatively compact block, the tower has a high aspect ratio.



The ritz and airlangga apartement also 300m+

http://willmaha.tripod.com/jakartaproject/id1.html

so how to judge or decide whos taller than that and than this?
by the floors or by metres?

Originally posted by David-80

Argh yeah i forgot them, but anyway Eric, the eureka is only 300m rite? i thought the Ritz apartement in jakarta higher than that? 300m+ or something?

http://www.infolink.com.au/articles/41/0c00e541.asp

At 300m the 88-storey Eureka Tower being developed at Melbourne? Southgate precinct as a joint venture between Grocon, Melbourne investor Tab Fried and architects Nonda Katsalidis and Karl Fender will become the tallest apartment building in the world. Built by Grocon Constructors (Grocon) on a relatively compact block, the tower has a high aspect ratio.



The ritz and airlangga apartement also 300m+

http://willmaha.tripod.com/jakartaproject/id1.html

so how to judge or decide whos taller than that and than this?
by the floors or by metres?

I don't know about the exact height of Eureka Tower, but I think its about 300 meters. How about the Q1 in Gold Coast, I thought that is the tallest apartment building in the world. Which one is taller ?? Eureka or Q1

wow cool!! Nice airport, never heard about it until now. I've been to Surabaya before, and the current airport isnt too bad.

Taman Menteng Executive...sounds familiar. :D

Originally posted by Eric Wong

I don't know about the exact height of Eureka Tower, but I think its about 300 meters. How about the Q1 in Gold Coast, I thought that is the tallest apartment building in the world. Which one is taller ?? Eureka or Q1

If I'm not mistaken,
Eureka - 297.2m to roof - 975 ft
Q1 - 321.9m to spire - 275m to roof - 1056 ft
Ritz Carlton - 330m to spire
Source : Skyscraperpage.com, Skyscrapers.com, Kompas.com

so yeah.. ehhehe ritz carlton will be the tallest to roof.. woohoo
alvin, do u have any rendering of the peak??or data of how high is it??

woah! so tall!!:cool:

FARRR OUTTT.. China is crazy.. they're gonna be the next skyscraper nation... from the top 25 highest building under construction... china has 17 of them... and the lowest is 264m..
:eek2:

awesome, now wot we need are ritz's construction pictures, anyone can visit the place and take some pics please?? :guns1:

Just wondering, what about the peak and sudirman plaza? will they be 300M+ too? or what

I think Ritz carlton should have 91 to 100 floors, that would be really cool :baaa:

i wonder if Jakarta resume their project on indosat-telkom tower, i heard its gonna be the taller one in the world. :cheers:

Originally posted by David-80

awesome, now wot we need are ritz's construction pictures, anyone can visit the place and take some pics please?? :guns1:

Just wondering, what about the peak and sudirman plaza? will they be 300M+ too? or what

I think Ritz carlton should have 91 to 100 floors, that would be really cool :baaa:

i wonder if Jakarta resume their project on indosat-telkom tower, i heard its gonna be the taller one in the world. :cheers:

I'll be back in Jakarta in 2 weeks time.. so yeah I'll take some pics of them...
yeah.. hopefully the jakarta tower is resumed.. and the BDNI centre as well... :guns1:

Hi,
Surprise to see new Surabaya photos here. These are the best shots of the center of Surabaya I've known, as there almost no Surabaya photos in the net.

But I still can not find the West part of Surabaya where development also occured in the 90's especially. There are mot too many buildings but the highest ones are there. They are apartments and hotels.

Looking from here, Surabaya does not look very bad.

Surabaya still look about the same, many constructions halted. But new projects starts to come. Darmo Trade Center (DTC) is about 14 stories. Supermall Pakuwon Indah is going to open soon this November... this is located in the Western part of the city. And also still on the plan is about 10 stories trade center, to replace Pasar Tunjungan.
I got the photos of DTC (though just the model) and Pasar Tunjungan.

Not very bad, but compare to Jkt... yeah, Sby still lacks large scale development.

Wait till I go back and I will build Surabaya to compete with Jkt!
;)

Thanks for the photo!! I took them! I will support Surabaya thread.

Hey all!
it's great to see this thread alive again..

Unfortunately I do not have any renderings/pics of the Peak, nor do I know its exact location...hmm..seems like it is a very new project and I'm not sure if it has started construction yet.

I don't think Sudirman Place/The Pinnacle (they refer to 1 building, the former refers to the shopping centre at the base, the latter refers to the apartment) will be taller than the BNI46 as I believe it is 40 storeys high..(compared to 46 for BNI46).

As for the Peak, I'm not too sure if it will be 300 m but since it supposedly will be taller than BNI46, it should def. be above 250m. My guess is somewhere between 250-300m. Number of floors is not a good indication of height though, e.g. Eureka is 88 storeys but 300 m, while Airlangga/Ritz Carlton is only 60 storeys but is taller... Another example - Menara Mulia is 50+ storeys yet BNI46 is taller...(maybe cos of the spire?..I dunno). I'd still place my bet on Ritz Carlton/Airlangga being the tallest in 2005 tho..=) (just my gut feeling).

The Jakarta Tower project has been posponed indefinitely and there are no plans to resume the project at present..however if completed it will be 558 m...I've heard that Dubai is building a 700 m tower though..

Anyway..after this round of apartment boom I hope to see a new boom of office towers development (like the early-mid 90s)..

;) I would love to see the BDNI Centre project be resumed..:cool:

Another Jakarta completed and U/C buildings

http://www.geocities.com/code_jakarta/tall1.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/code_jakarta/tall2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/code_jakarta/anggrek.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/code_jakarta/thar.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/code_jakarta/tall5.jpg

The jakarta tower is cancelled, I dont know about the rest

Great..i havent sleep yet..just to find those pics :bash: :bash:

I need to sleep :sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy: :doh:

heres more !!

http://www.indo.com/hotels/menarapeninsula/building.jpg

http://www.askero.se/asia97/jak/jak1.jpg


http://www.overclad.com/menara-pelita-web.jpg

I got some more but..my eyes couldnt stay open....

I am going to sleep for real now :D :D :D

Construction of monorail system to start in January


Bambang Nurbianto, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

The construction of two monorail lines is scheduled to begin in January 2004 but the elevated public transport system will only operate in the center of Jakarta instead of connecting Jakarta with Bekasi in the east and Tangerang in the west as originally planned.

The US$540 million two monorail lines will be built by PT Indonesian Transit Central (ITC) and its Malaysian partner M Trans Holdings.

ITC technical director Sukmawati Syukur said on Friday that the decision to revise the two monorail lines was based on the latest feasibility study conducted by ITC's consultant Mott MacDonald Indonesia.

"The study shows that constructing a Bekasi-Casablanca-Tangerang monorail line is not feasible if the infrastructure in the downtown is not prepared," Sukmawati told The Jakarta Post.

The original plan of the project was a 22.5-kilometer monorail line which would connect Bekasi and Tangerang via Jakarta's major roads including Jl. Casablanca and Jl. Daan Mogot.

However, the budgets for those swelled from $400 million to $540 million.

Sukmawati said that her company would first construct a 14.8-kilometer circular line. This "green line" will serve Jakarta's busiest downtown areas including Senayan, Jl. H.R. Rasuna Said and Jl. Jend. Sudirman with 16 stations.

The 16 stations are located at the Senayan Sports complex, Plaza Senayan, the Jakarta Convention Center, Taman Ria Senayan, the House of Representatives/People's Consultative Assembly building, Pejompongan, Karet, Sudirman, Setiabudi, Kuningan, Taman Rasuna, Casablanca, Gran Melia, Satria Mandala Museum, Jakarta Police Headquarters and the Jakarta Stock Exchange.

"The construction of the 'green line' is expected to be completed within two years," she said, adding that another 12.2-kilometer "blue line" would be started later. Both lines should be completed in the next three years.

The blue line will begin at Kampung Melayu in East Jakarta and end in Roxy, West Jakarta, with 13 stations in Kampung Melayu, Tebet, Saharjo, Menteng Dalam, Casablanca, Ambassador, Dharmala Sakti, Menara Batavia, Karet, Kebon Kacang, Tanah Abang and Cideng.

To minimize the traffic jams caused by the construction, Sukmawati said that the concrete pillars would be built first in the company's factory. The pillars would then be transported and installed at night.

When both monorail lines are completed, they are expected to transport some 140,000 people per day.

Each passenger will have to pay for a ticket costing between Rp 5,000 (60 U.S. cents) and Rp 7,500, depending on the distance.

ITC is a consortium of local companies of PT Adhi Karya, Global Profex Synergy and Radiant Utama set to develop the monorail project.

The project's Memorandum of Understanding between M Trans and the Jakarta Administration was signed in Sarawak, Malaysia and witnessed by the newly retired Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad and President Megawati Soekarnoputri in August.

Sukmawati said that her company was still discussing the final results of the feasibility study. But she guaranteed that there would be no significant changes.

ITC is still waiting for another discussion with the administration on its role as the monorail concessionaire. Sukmawati said that her company proposed a 40-year build-operate-transfer (BOT) contract as the company hopes to reach its break-even point within 12 years.

Originally posted by David-80

Another Jakarta completed and U/C buildings

http://www.geocities.com/code_jakarta/tall1.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/code_jakarta/tall2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/code_jakarta/anggrek.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/code_jakarta/thar.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/code_jakarta/tall5.jpg

The jakarta tower is cancelled, I dont know about the rest

Great..i havent sleep yet..just to find those pics :bash: :bash:

I need to sleep :sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy: :doh:


yo david.. I cant see the pics man..
u needed sleep?? me too.. I've been working on my assignment, making this dance studio for my course.. and I've been staying whole night until 6.30 in the morning.. luckily I had a red bull.. or else I'll be sleeping way before this... ehhehe :D

Great job, David! you've been working hard:D

thanks for the update, Alvin. So they moved it from December to January. Coo, they're building two lines at the same time:)

Btw, did i tell you guys that the busway project is on full force now? they are building all the bus stops right in the middle of Jl. Sudirman! Lets see how that goes. the construction interupts traffic flow as there are equipment taking up one lane in some areas.

Originally posted by GreyX

Great job, David! you've been working hard:D

thanks for the update, Alvin. So they moved it from December to January. Coo, they're building two lines at the same time:)

Btw, did i tell you guys that the busway project is on full force now? they are building all the bus stops right in the middle of Jl. Sudirman! Lets see how that goes. the construction interupts traffic flow as there are equipment taking up one lane in some areas.

yeah I heard about that from the newspaper...
let's see how it goes..

another pic of jakarta from a different angle which I found on the net
http://www.happeningbank.com/Jakarta_landscape.jpg

Pics and more pics

http://www.kevinht.com/images/jakarta.jpg
http://www.kanmatsu.co.jp/photo-jakarta.jpg
http://www.asientour.info/Fotos_videos/Java/Jakarta/0031Jakarta_Aussicht_006.jpg
http://www.iknidi.onlinehome.de/images/jakarta_night_jpg.jpg
http://www.asientour.info/Fotos_videos/Java/Jakarta/0034Jakarta_Aussicht_002.jpg
http://photos.worldisround.com/photos/0/179/417.jpg
http://www.cookeryonline.com/steve/Pandu/Jakarta.jpg

Gambir
http://www.asientour.info/Fotos_videos/Java/Jakarta/0030Jakarta_Aussicht_Gambir_Station.jpg

Soekarno Hatta - airport
http://www.hoteltravel.com/indonesia/jakarta/guides/tips/jakarta_airport.jpg

What is the name and the height of this building ??

http://www.kanmatsu.co.jp/photo-jakarta.jpg

@David80 - this building is actually Menara Pelita of Kuching, Malaysia :D

http://www.overclad.com/menara-pelita-web.jpg

Wonderful pics guys!

@baqthier : Thanks bro ! some blokes renamed those pics to jakarta-pelita >( :mad: >( :mad:

@Mahaputra : thats good bro, dont forget to take some pics later on sports mall, my wife told me its huge but still empty.

:cheers:

awesome pics, mahaputra!! so much greenery in that Cathedral pic!

David, sports mall is now open. Yeah, its quite big but i just dont like its location. its in the suburbs of Kelapa Gading right in the middle of housing complexes...

@ Eric Wong - I'm not sure on the name of that building but i know that is one of the top 5 tallest in Jakarta.

Ghee...finally i can access this forum again ! :banana: :cheers1: :cheers1:

Grey, the Mall is the biggest in Jakarta or Indonesia? I know Surabaya has their biggest shopping center, Tunyungan plaza or something, man thats huge :D :D :D

man, its about time we need indonesia subforum :guns1:

I wish more indonesian forumers are coming

current list : Mahaputra, Alvin, GreyX, teddybear, me and who else? :D

Originally posted by David-80
Ghee...finally i can access this forum again ! :banana: :cheers1: :cheers1:

Grey, the Mall is the biggest in Jakarta or Indonesia? I know Surabaya has their biggest shopping center, Tunyungan plaza or something, man thats huge :D :D :D

man, its about time we need indonesia subforum :guns1:

I wish more indonesian forumers are coming

current list : Mahaputra, Alvin, GreyX, teddybear, me and who else? :D

No way! Sports Mall is just a Basketball gym/complex with stores in it. Current biggest mall in Jakarta is still Taman Anggrek. The most high end mall is Senayan Plaza and Plaza Indonesia.

Originally posted by David-80

@baqthier : Thanks bro ! some blokes renamed those pics to jakarta-pelita >( :mad: >( :mad:

@Mahaputra : thats good bro, dont forget to take some pics later on sports mall, my wife told me its huge but still empty.

:cheers:

yep I will.. although it's quite far from my house.. ehehe
but I'll do it for the forum.. eheheh
yeah, as greyx said, the location is kinda crap.. is like between residential houses... in a housing complex

Anymore Jakarta pics ??

Originally posted by GreyX

No way! Sports Mall is just a Basketball gym/complex with stores in it. Current biggest mall in Jakarta is still Taman Anggrek. The most high end mall is Senayan Plaza and Plaza Indonesia.

yeah.. it's just a basktball hall with stores around it.. eheh
I've heard that plaza semanggi is gonna be the biggest mall in Indonesia, beating Taman Anggrek, is that true..??
oh yeah.. the mall that u mentioned david, it's tunjungan plaza..

what about WTC Mangga Dua?? isnt that huge?? it looks huge from the highway last time I saw it

Originally posted by Eric Wong

Anymore Jakarta pics ??

Coming up in 3 weeks or more time.. ehehhe that's when I'll be back home.. in 3 weeks time...
I'll take all the major constructions like Ritz Carlton, Plaza Semanggi, Sudirman Place, The Peak, Bellagio residence, and others..

Originally posted by David-80

Ghee...finally i can access this forum again ! :banana: :cheers1: :cheers1:

Grey, the Mall is the biggest in Jakarta or Indonesia? I know Surabaya has their biggest shopping center, Tunyungan plaza or something, man thats huge :D :D :D

man, its about time we need indonesia subforum :guns1:

I wish more indonesian forumers are coming

current list : Mahaputra, Alvin, GreyX, teddybear, me and who else? :D

Do we only have 5 Indonesian Forumers?? I thought we have more than that..?? man.. that's bad.. we need more.. ehehhe

more jakarta pics, by bjorn

http://www.indonesiaphoto.com/albums/jakarta/3367_Jakarta.jpg

http://www.indonesiaphoto.com/albums/jakarta/3366_Jakarta.jpg

other pics, from webshots

http://community.webshots.com/s/image3/9/63/27/23896327LuYXwtDQPg_fs.jpg

http://www.wiratman.co.id/ximages/xdharmala.jpg

http://www.wiratman.co.id/ximages/xATD.jpg


http://www.wiratman.co.id/ximages/xbnicity.jpg

http://www.wiratman.co.id/ximages/xniaga.jpg


@Grey: hows inside sports mall ? is it good? hows the basketball complex? is it big or similar like the one in Manila ?

Mahaputra : thanks bro, yeah we need more indonesian forumers, anyway, i cant stop thinking why BDNI tower is still delayed :mad: :bleep: :bleep:

Originally posted by Mahaputra
yeah.. it's just a basktball hall with stores around it.. eheh
I've heard that plaza semanggi is gonna be the biggest mall in Indonesia, beating Taman Anggrek, is that true..??
oh yeah.. the mall that u mentioned david, it's tunjungan plaza..

what about WTC Mangga Dua?? isnt that huge?? it looks huge from the highway last time I saw it

WTC is quite big but not as big as the other malls like Senayan, Plaza Indonesia, etc...about the size of Pondok Indah mall (maybe smaller).

You might be right, Plaza Semanggi is quite large. But i think Taman Anggrek could still be bigger. ITC Cempaka is another biggie, but its an ITC mall;)

@ David, i havent personally been inside Sports Mall but i've been right outside it. Regarding Manila, are you talking about Araneta Coloseum? If you are, then you cant compare them. Sports Mall is a Basketball training kinda center. With a few courts and shops while Araneta Coloseum is an Indoor Stadium (once the largest on the world, i may add:D) used for Basketball matches, concerts, boxing matches, entertainment shows and other sport events. Araneta Coloseum is bigger than Sports Mall.

David, you kept this thread alive with all these great pictures! Good job, man!!:)

HEy GreyX, what do the Busway busstops look like? do they look any good? take some pics! :D

they dont look like anything yet...there's just a fence around where they are gonna be built with some men digging.:D

what is busway?? whats the difference between the DAMRI in surabaya? :? :?

anymore jakarta pictures? batam maybe or surabaya? :D :D :D

I think Busway is bus which runs on a dedicated lane. I hope I am not wrong.

DAMRI is just a bus. So, with busway, will there be new bus or just creating dedicated lane for bus?

Originally posted by David-80

what is busway?? whats the difference between the DAMRI in surabaya? :? :?

anymore jakarta pictures? batam maybe or surabaya? :D :D :D

ur right teddybear...
the busway lets a number of buses to have their own lane on the road.. so basically the busway takes up one whole lane of the road and I reckon, for Jakarta, it'll cause more traffic jam.. ehehhe
even with 4-5 lanes jakarta still has traffic jam..

DAMRI is just a normal bus system....

Yep. for more information go to
http://transjakarta-busway.dki.go.id

does anyone have full access to skyscrapers.com?
i noticed they've added 2 new under-constructions data to their Jakarta database...can any1 tell me what buildings they are?

Originally posted by Alvin

does anyone have full access to skyscrapers.com?
i noticed they've added 2 new under-constructions data to their Jakarta database...can any1 tell me what buildings they are?

MegaGlodok Tower 1 and 2

Where is Batam ??

It's an island just next to Singapore..it's largely an industrial zone. Lots of singapore companies have their manufacturing plants in batam..

yeah, there are special bus stations for the busway being built and there is one lane just for this busway project. Yes, there are "new" buses from Japan for use in the busway system. I said "new" because they arent really new, the are just surplus buses from Japan. They still have Japanese signage on them:D

yeah, there are special bus stations for the busway being built and there is one lane just for this busway project. Yes, there are "new" buses from Japan for use in the busway system. I said "new" because they arent really new, the are just surplus buses from Japan. They still have Japanese signage on them:D

EDIT: whoops, sorry for the double post

Thanks guys !

I think Monorail should be good for the big city like jakarta/surabaya.

btw, the data on skycraperpage is really inaccurate, they says the highrise building in indonesia only 8?? :?

Originally posted by David-80
Thanks guys !

I think Monorail should be good for the big city like jakarta/surabaya.

btw, the data on skycraperpage is really inaccurate, they says the highrise building in indonesia only 8?? :?

It's because they dont have sufficient data. Dont think that they think that there are only 8 highrises in JKT. They dont have a representative so they cant gather enough info.

hehehe...I think Skyscrapers.com needs more jakarta editors...especially with the construction boom going on now...:rant:

http://www.agungpodomoro.com/product.html

try The Peak at SUdirman in particular...it's striking


;)

Also, a new apartment project has been announced, 'Mediterania Lagoon Residences' in Kemayoran by the same developer of The Peak, Pakubuwono residences etc. (PT Agung Podomoro).

Mediterania Palace Residences
http://www.agungpodomoro.com/palace/palace_50.gif
Mediterania Garden Residences
http://www.agungpodomoro.com/garden/garden_50.gif
Gading Mediterania Residences
http://www.agungpodomoro.com/gading/gading_32.gif

oops i didnt realise the images were 'broken up'. :baaa:
just go and visit the website :colgate:

The latest development in Jakarta

* BUKIT GADING MEDITERANIA, a high up scale residential, located in Kelapa Gading Area.

* GADING MEDITERANIA RESIDENCES, 1600 apartment units in 3 towers.

* MANGGA DUA SQUARE, shopping center located in mangga dua.

* KELAPA GADING SQUARE, a commercial mixed use Development at Kelapa Gading area.

* MEDITERANIA PALACE RESIDENCES, an apartement development at Kemayoran area.

* MEDITERANIA GAJAH MADA RESIDENCES, 2 towers apartment development at Gajah Mada

* THE PAKUBUWONO RESIDENCES, high up market residences at Kebayoran area.

* INTERNATIONAL VILLAGE, a modern residential estate at Serpong.

* THE PLAZA SEMANGGI, the most strategic shopping center at Semanggi area.

* MEDITERANIA GARDEN RESIDENCES, 4 Towers apartement at Tanjung duren area.

thats neat folks, but i cant access thepeak, website. :moods:


anyway, whos ritz carlton developer? any idea? and the website too :D :D :D

hey David-80, how long did you wait for the Peak website? cos I had to wait for about maybe 5 minutes before the page loaded...maybe u just have to wait a bit longer.;)

There is a new u/c here in the south, going to Lebak Bulus from Pondok Indah. It is a "luxury mall" with a highrise condominium. I'm not so sure of its name though.

hey greyx - were u able to access The Peak at Sudirman site?

http://www.thepeak-sudirman.com/

the design is quite nice! (although the server is crap..takes ages to download...)

:omg: wow!! Thats amazing...i like! Its residential right? btw, it only took me a couple of seconds to download:D lol (and normally my connection is horribly slow. Its hard to get fast and reliable internet here:( You can get DSL but so expensive!!)

@Alvin : Crap, i still cant access the website, Maybe because overloaded or something....sigh :bleep: :bleep:

me neither...
it always stop at 11kb ... damn... :bleep:

Eric Wong, here are some of Batam pictures i found on the Internet. I got more but all the size are really petite, thats why i dont start a new thread, sorry Alvin :D

http://batamweb.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/btm130903/barelang1.jpg

http://batamweb.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/btm130903/hotels005.jpg

http://batamweb.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/btm130903/hotels004.jpg


damn, i tried again to access that website, but still....:rant: :rant:

It just stop at 31kb

Thanks David-80, I don't even know that Batam has high-rise buildings

I just found one Batam pic in Webshot

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/Batam1.jpeg

hey guys - explanation for The Peak slowness
if you access it in Indonesia - fast.
outside indonesia - slow

hehehe...:)

for those of you who can't access the site...
it consists of 4 towers - 2 35 storey at the front, and 2 55 storey towers at rear. It's got a grey-silvery color.... actually the 35 storey towers look a bit like the Jakarta stock exchange towers..
the 55 storey towers are thinner . all the towers have a 'candi prambanan' (an ancient hindu temple in java) look about them...but generally they look quite sleek & futuristic !!

actually, upon completion, these towers 'may' be the tallest residential towers in the world. the current tallest is dubai's 21st century tower at 269 m. The Peak is confirmed to be taller than the 250m BNI 46...so we will see ;) It looks great...

@Alvin : what about Ritz carlton, arent they 300M+ if completed?

@greyX : hey grey, do you know a pinay girl named "CJ" in Jakarta? she was in Gandhi international school.

yeah you're right...airlangga/ritz carlton will be 330m (according to mahaputra)

Originally posted by Alvin

yeah you're right...airlangga/ritz carlton will be 330m (according to mahaputra)

well.. the newspaper said that the hotel will have around 60 floors and a 30m spire... and it's also stated that each floor is around 5m height.. so if u do the maths it'll be around 330m..
hopefully it's right

Originally posted by Alvin

for those of you who can't access the site...
it consists of 4 towers - 2 35 storey at the front, and 2 55 storey towers at rear. It's got a grey-silvery color.... actually the 35 storey towers look a bit like the Jakarta stock exchange towers..
the 55 storey towers are thinner . all the towers have a 'candi prambanan' (an ancient hindu temple in java) look about them...but generally they look quite sleek & futuristic !!

actually, upon completion, these towers 'may' be the tallest residential towers in the world. the current tallest is dubai's 21st century tower at 269 m. The Peak is confirmed to be taller than the 250m BNI 46...so we will see ;) It looks great...

but I heard that the Q1 apartments or Eureka will be the tallest residential in the world..

Go to webshots and search Jakarta, there are plenty of new pics there

hey all
according to this site..
http://www.app.com.au/a/365.html
there's a 65 storey office tower planned for jakarta...:D

check out this link - last paragraph.

http://www.bimantara.co.id/bimantara/company_profile_17001.asp

"Another exclusive development is now under a feasibility study conducted by Plaza Nusantara Realti (PNR), a subsidiary of Plaza Indonesia Realty. PNR is considering building a 22-storey hotel, a 50-storey office tower, and a 48-storey apartment tower, all to be located on the property adjacent to the present Plaza Indonesia integrated super-block project."

A few other projects I found (but they may already have been cancelled, i'm not sure):
Plaza Galeria
http://www.whl-international.com/images/plazagal.jpg
This mixed-use project is situated along one of the busiest sections of Jakarta's Jalan Jenderal Sudirman, the premier boulevard of Jakarta. The building program consists of a 48 story office tower, a 21 story five-star hotel, a 21 story luxury condominium building, and a 6 story retail base. Three levels of subterranean parking spread out beneath the entire 3.5 hectare site. The gross area of construction is approximately 250,000 square meters (2.7 million square feet).

Kota Kasablanka
http://www.whl-international.com/images/kota1.jpg http://www.whl-international.com/images/kota2.jpg
The Kota Kasablanka project consists of a retail mall, a hotel, a 30 story office tower, and two twin 32 story residential towers over four levels of subterranean parking and building services. The total gross area of construction is approximately 48,000 square meters for the office, 90,000 square meters for the apartments, 500 square meters of pool deck, 1,000 square meters of clubhouse on the ground floor, and the basement area of 63,000 square meters.

Hi folks,
From Jawapos yesterday I read that Pakuwon Supermall will start to open this November. This is big mall in western part of Surabaya. I got the small picture but has no link to post it here...

Originally posted by Alvin

check out this link - last paragraph.

http://www.bimantara.co.id/bimantara/company_profile_17001.asp

"Another exclusive development is now under a feasibility study conducted by Plaza Nusantara Realti (PNR), a subsidiary of Plaza Indonesia Realty. PNR is considering building a 22-storey hotel, a 50-storey office tower, and a 48-storey apartment tower, all to be located on the property adjacent to the present Plaza Indonesia integrated super-block project."

A few other projects I found (but they may already have been cancelled, i'm not sure):
Plaza Galeria
http://www.whl-international.com/images/plazagal.jpg
This mixed-use project is situated along one of the busiest sections of Jakarta's Jalan Jenderal Sudirman, the premier boulevard of Jakarta. The building program consists of a 48 story office tower, a 21 story five-star hotel, a 21 story luxury condominium building, and a 6 story retail base. Three levels of subterranean parking spread out beneath the entire 3.5 hectare site. The gross area of construction is approximately 250,000 square meters (2.7 million square feet).

Kota Kasablanka
http://www.whl-international.com/images/kota1.jpg http://www.whl-international.com/images/kota2.jpg
The Kota Kasablanka project consists of a retail mall, a hotel, a 30 story office tower, and two twin 32 story residential towers over four levels of subterranean parking and building services. The total gross area of construction is approximately 48,000 square meters for the office, 90,000 square meters for the apartments, 500 square meters of pool deck, 1,000 square meters of clubhouse on the ground floor, and the basement area of 63,000 square meters.

wow... cooll.. I like the plaza galeria.. the office tower looks soo cooll
glass facade..... nicceeeee....
where did u get all these websites from alvin?? keep up the good work

awesome pictures !

btw, i got info from reliable sources (my wife works at the construction and developer company) if the plaza galeria is going to be resume this december, with the different developer and the office tower will be rename it into some telecommunication providers, maybe its singtel-telkomsel.

Mahaputra, add that building into your mission ! :D :D :D :D


Iam counting until Mahaputra is actually depart to Jakarta, one week more :D :D :D
LOL

I just can't wait for it !! :D :D

it's great news to see office tower projects start recommencing after 5-6 year draught due to the crisis...hopefully we'll see more of these...
David...hehe can you get insider info on whether the BDNI centre project will recommence? :)

Originally posted by David-80

awesome pictures !

btw, i got info from reliable sources (my wife works at the construction and developer company) if the plaza galeria is going to be resume this december, with the different developer and the office tower will be rename it into some telecommunication providers, maybe its singtel-telkomsel.

Mahaputra, add that building into your mission ! :D :D :D :D


Iam counting until Mahaputra is actually depart to Jakarta, one week more :D :D :D
LOL

YES SIR!!!:rock: :righton: I'll give my best shot in hunting for pics for the major constructions that's going on in Jakarta..
I'll be back by thursday next week and I'll start getting pics on friday or saturday I reckon... I'll do it ASAP...

AT LASTTT... I can access the peak website...
it looks very futurustic... I like it.. but the towers look almost the same as the Jakarta Stock Exchange, only taller and the colour of the building's different...

http://www.bisnisproperti.com/property/default.htm

Originally posted by Alvin

http://www.bisnisproperti.com/property/default.htm

I've read the article.. sounds veeryyy goodd... ehhehe
cant wait too see it done...
I've actually contacted the developer to get some info like, what's the height, and when are they going to start and finish the construction and where's the location... I'm still waiting for their reply.. hopefully they'll start the construction asap

@Alvin : the BDNI Tower 2 is in ongoing talk & deal for their new owner and developer, because she said, BDNI bank is already bankrupt, so the city management is looking for the possibility to change the owner and developer. She also said the biggest contender maybe pertamina. i think Indonesia pertamina should have their own tower like petronas malaysia, right? :D :D

@Mahaputra : CANT WAIT ! :D :D :D

David: that's great!! wow...good to hear that the project hasn't been cancelled outright.

btw, I posted a couple of jakarta threads on the projects& construction section of the forum.

Originally posted by David-80

@Alvin : the BDNI Tower 2 is in ongoing talk & deal for their new owner and developer, because she said, BDNI bank is already bankrupt, so the city management is looking for the possibility to change the owner and developer. She also said the biggest contender maybe pertamina. i think Indonesia pertamina should have their own tower like petronas malaysia, right? :D :D

@Mahaputra : CANT WAIT ! :D :D :D

What about BDNI Tower 1 ??

Bingo ..that question was exactly what i was about to send before the forum underwent maintenance ;)
actually, i'd be really disappointed if Tower 1 is not being discussed.....

Originally posted by Alvin

Bingo ..that question was exactly what i was about to send before the forum underwent maintenance ;)
actually, i'd be really disappointed if Tower 1 is not being discussed.....

Because Tower 1 is actually taller than Tower 2 (62 stories compare to 45 stories)

http://www.sanylaser.com/images/ppbdnicenter.jpg

not just taller, but BIGGER and has much more of the landmark aura about it :cool:

I hope the project will resume very soon !!

Originally posted by David-80

@Alvin : the BDNI Tower 2 is in ongoing talk & deal for their new owner and developer, because she said, BDNI bank is already bankrupt, so the city management is looking for the possibility to change the owner and developer. She also said the biggest contender maybe pertamina. i think Indonesia pertamina should have their own tower like petronas malaysia, right? :D :D

@Mahaputra : CANT WAIT ! :D :D :D

waaa.. good stuff.. cant wait ...
I'm very glad that the project hasnt been cancelled...
hope they resume it asap

I am not sure if the BDNI tower is actually the BDNI 2, because she told me just the "BDNI" and she also said BDNI towers 2 because she also said before BDNI already got their old tower. so maybe shes refering to the BDNI stage 2? which is all of them? anyway i will re-confirm again tomorrow.

any news on ritz carlton ??

Originally posted by David-80

I am not sure if the BDNI tower is actually the BDNI 2, because she told me just the "BDNI" and she also said BDNI towers 2 because she also said before BDNI already got their old tower. so maybe shes refering to the BDNI stage 2? which is all of them? anyway i will re-confirm again tomorrow.

any news on ritz carlton ??

coool.. good stuff david..
ritz carlton... hmm not lately..

yeah i'm inclined to think that david is right..
it would be pretty illogical and commercially inefficient to decide to build just ONE tower in a proposed 2-tower project...


:)

and yes, BDNI has an old building in Jl Hayam Wuruk...

hmm..if it's pertamina becomes the new tenant, i wonder what they'll call the building? Pertamina Center? Wisma Pertamina? Pertamina Towers? :cool:

Originally posted by Alvin

yeah i'm inclined to think that david is right..
it would be pretty illogical and commercially inefficient to decide to build just ONE tower in a proposed 2-tower project...


:)

and yes, BDNI has an old building in Jl Hayam Wuruk...

hmm..if it's pertamina becomes the new tenant, i wonder what they'll call the building? Pertamina Center? Wisma Pertamina? Pertamina Towers? :cool:


Hopefully they will build the taller and bigger tower...
then we will have marvelous landmark in Jakarta

i know that you guys posted this pic a long time ago. anyways, i really like this shot of Jakarta.
http://www.cookeryonline.com/steve/Pandu/Jakarta.jpg

That pic is beautiful, couldnt agree more with you kiku, :D :D

Alvin, yeah maybe pertamina tower :D

I went to rialto tower today and took some pics of eureka apt, maybe after Mahaputra is back in Jakarta, we can see the difference between eureka and ritz carlton in term of construction progress/data.

4 days more Mahaputra ! :D

Originally posted by David-80

That pic is beautiful, couldnt agree more with you kiku, :D :D

Alvin, yeah maybe pertamina tower :D

I went to rialto tower today and took some pics of eureka apt, maybe after Mahaputra is back in Jakarta, we can see the difference between eureka and ritz carlton in term of construction progress/data.

4 days more Mahaputra ! :D

yup.. no worries.. I'll get some data and pics of latest construction progress of the ritz carlton..

don't forget The Peak at Sudirman
:)
new info at www.bisnisproperti.com , including its location.

Update: A new project called "Poins Square" in the Pondok Indah/Lebak Bulus boundary is currently underconstruction. It is a luxury mall with a high end condominium on top of the mall. They are currently digging and working on the foundation. My estimation of its height is about 30 floors.

Great news!
Btw I posted a new thread in the Projects and Constructions section..be sure to check 'em out.

hey GreyX, is this Poins Square??

http://www.3designarchitect.com/images/gallery%20commercial/3%20poins%2001.jpg

http://www.3designarchitect.com/images/gallery%20commercial/3%20poins%2004.jpg

http://www.3designarchitect.com/images/gallery%20commercial/3%20poins%2002.jpg

http://www.3designarchitect.com/images/gallery%20commercial/3%20poins%2003.jpg

An update every1..
a 75 storey tower is due to be constructed in the SCBD area (Sudirman CBD), and a 50 storey tower in Senayan. ;)

source of that info:
http://www.kompas.com/kompas-cetak/0307/07/metro/413205.htm

Originally posted by Alvin
hey GreyX, is this Poins Square??

http://www.3designarchitect.com/images/gallery%20commercial/3%20poins%2001.jpg

http://www.3designarchitect.com/images/gallery%20commercial/3%20poins%2004.jpg

http://www.3designarchitect.com/images/gallery%20commercial/3%20poins%2002.jpg

http://www.3designarchitect.com/images/gallery%20commercial/3%20poins%2003.jpg

:yes: YES!! That sure is it!! It looks much better in those pics than the rendering on the construction site. Great find, Alvin:)

From the looks of it, it might be less than 30 floors...Around 20-26

Originally posted by Alvin
source of that info:
http://www.kompas.com/kompas-cetak/0307/07/metro/413205.htm

hmm, my Bahasa indonesia is generally not that good, but i was able to basically understand that article:) Good news for RI.

It's good news though many of the information is wrong. The current tallest already Taipei 101, and the future tallest is not in HK anymore.

But is this just rumor or there is a real plan?

hey teddybear..keep in mind that article was written in July =)

by the wording.....it looks as if its a brand new project already confirmed, waiting for construction..

update - Poins Square will consist of 7 floors of malls, and 14 floors of apartments.

Originally posted by Alvin
update - Poins Square will consist of 7 floors of malls, and 14 floors of apartments.

so it equals 21 floors. Not bad. It looks nice anyways.

Plaza Indonesia Extension

The Plaza Indonesia Extension project is the second phase of a super-block development, located at one of the most prestigious intersections in Jakarta. This mixed-use project consists of one 50 story office tower, one 46 story luxury condominium tower, a six level retail podium, and five levels of subterranean parking and building services. The total gross area of construction is approximately 200,000 square meters (2.15 million square. feet).

The selected structural system is a composite of structural steel and reinforced concrete.

An "up-down" construction method and a perimeter diaphragm wall system were selected to shorten the construction schedule, to minimize the dewatering effort during construction, and to minimize the temporary shoring during excavation. The diaphragm wall would also serve as a protective barrier for the basement. High capacity bored piles and barrette piles form the foundation system for the project.

http://www.whl-international.com/images/plzindo1.jpg

http://www.whl-international.com/images/plzindo2.jpg

Is Plaza Indonesia ready for another expansion? This one is old plan, right? BTW, isn't that this Plz is own by Tommy who is in jail now?

Jkt really has unfair advantage over Sby, since Indonesia has centralized approach on the development. Most money circulation in Indonesia is in Jkt, that is why we can see so many developments, like this.

I really want to see Sby getting the large development too. I can see which area in Sby that needs undergo development!

I'd like to see the government to pay attention on other major cities... anyway, Jkt is not in good condition already. It is prone to major flooding and riot!

yeah, i've heard of these plans.. currently they're constructing the mall extension (with ice skating rink etc.)...but I'm not sure if the towers are to be built as well..can anyone tell me if they are?

Anyway, there's a new project in Permata Hijau called the Bellaza, by the same developer of the Bellagio. It consists of 3 towers - 1 32 storey apartment, 1 32 storey 5 star hotel, and 1 28 storey office tower.

Also there's a new upmarket apartment called One Park Residence...a 23 storey tower..in South Jakarta.

Great news! the those new towers are indeed in development!

"Plaza Indonesia Realty is building up a strategic expansion development program located next to the existing building of Grand Hyatt hotel and Plaza Indonesia shopping center. One of a new development project is an extension of 6-floor exclusive Plaza Indonesia shopping mall with additional 35,000 square meters of retail space. The other development is a 48-storey luxury Keraton apartment tower that consists of 98 units-apartment within 46,500 square meters. And also, the development of a 50-storey of a high-tech skyscraper Menara Plaza, a first class office tower dedicated to top national and foreign company headquarters and offices with total area of 61,500 square meters. These new development projects expected to be completed before year 2005. All of these will create an integrated super-block that serves the hotel guests, business partners, shopping center visitors with the unique and special treatment all in one place."

Cool, they look amazing!!:cool:

yeah, and think i've seen some construction taking place over there already...:)

Yup, i seen One Park Residences. Its on Jl. Sematupang (along the toll road) in south Jakarta. They have fencing around the site so i cant see whats going on.

hey greyx..you should start taking those photos :D

Originally posted by Alvin
hey greyx..you should start taking those photos :D

hehe, i've taken some. But i need to take more.:D I need a holiday...;)

Surprising to say quite a few new projects under development/construction in Jakarta...I've heard talks that the construction industry will experience a boom in 2005/2006, so I think we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg...:colgate:

Also, you've probably heard that they are planning to build a massive residential/commercial/office superblock in Kemayoran called the China Business Centre..of which Megawati's son is currently implicated in a scandal...also look out for new projects to be announced in the Sudirman Central Business District (SCBD) area in the next few months...;)

Its great to see Asia, particularly South East Asia get back on its feet. Cities such as Bangkok, Metro Manila and Jakarta are starting to experience a new construction boom. First starting with residential highrises and then going on to office skyscrapers. Way to go asia!!:okay:

what about Kuala Lumpur?

Originally posted by Alvin
what about Kuala Lumpur?

I said "such as";) but now that you mentioned KL, i'm not so sure. I think they are starting a construction boom too... We all know that China is leading the way right now.

This is great to hear..
unfortunately I cant take any pics until the end of this month or early december.. I've changed my flight...
what about that reclamation project at north jakarta?? are they gonna do it?? is it confirmed??

hmm I found these Sun Center images...looks a bit different from the one on skyscraperpage.com

http://www.gibson-design.com/images/HOK/fcg-hok-sun-east-pers-b.jpg

http://www.gibson-design.com/images/HOK/fcg-hok-sun-north-b.jpg

http://www.townland.com/CBD%20town.jpg
http://www.townland.com/CBD%20town2.jpg http://www.townland.com/Kelapa%20Gading%20MLP.jpg

http://www.wzmh.com/project_library/kelapa/kelapa2.jpg http://www.wzmh.com/project_library/kelapa/2874-01.jpg http://www.wzmh.com/project_library/kelapa/kelapa1.jpg

Kelapa Gading Super Mall
Jakarta, Indonesia

Client: Duta Anggada Realty
Project Type: Mixed Use (Retail, Hotel, Residential), Masterplanning
Scope of Services: Design Proposal

As a result of its competition submission for Plaza Indonesia, a member of the Board of Directors invited The Webb Zerafa Menkes Housden Partnership to compete for a proposed mixed-use complex to be developed around a festival theme. The project includes two major features: a 150,000m² shopping mall and a 30,000m² theme park. Additional components include a tourist hotel, a 300-bed hospital, four office buildings, five residential buildings - all totalling 282,000m² to be built in two phases. In addition, parking accommodation for 6,700 cars is anticipated in the master plan.

Sudirman Street (Webshots pics)

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/93324118SmoQpw_ph.jpg

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/93327412ZwFbQt_ph.jpg

http://www.you-are-a-huge-nerd.com/public/freepix/96620954MEJpkz_ph1.jpg

That second pic looked quite recent.. coz it has the new sudirman statue on sudirman road..

Here's a cool article ;)

http://www.sinarharapan.co.id/ekonomi/properti/2003/0613/prop1.html

Kawasan Segitiga Emas Kembali Menggeliat


JAKARTA – Setelah sempat terjerembab saat krisis ekonomi 1998, kawasan Segitiga Emas di Jakarta kini kembali menggeliat. Sejumlah pembangunan proyek properti hadir kembali di wilayah ini, baik yang sama sekali baru maupun yang sempat tertunda pembangunannya.
Beberapa proyek yang kini sudah memasuki pasaran, di antaranya Paviliun Setiabudi, ITC Kuningan, STC Senayan, Menara Jamsostek. Beberapa yang lain kini tengah dalam pembangunan. Tengok saja sepanjang Jalan Jenderal Sudirman, Jakarta, pekerjaan konstruksi terjadi pada proyek pusat belanja Plaza Semanggi bersebelahan dengan Universitas Atmajaya dan Crown Hotel, Apartemen Da Vinci bersebelahan dengan Hotel Sahid Jaya, dan yang terbaru adalah proyek prestisius Bellagio Residences, Apartemen Airlangga, Hotel Ritz Carlton, yang ketiganya berlokasi di kawasan Mega Kuningan, berdekatan dengan Hotel JW Marriot (lihat Tabel).
Maraknya pembangunan properti di kawasan ini jelas menyiratkan bahwa Segitiga Emas siap berdenyut kembali.
Memang harus diakui belum mencapai level seperti masa sebelum krisis. Tetapi paling tidak ini memberikan sinyal ke masyarakat dan pasar bahwa kawasan Segitiga Emas yang sebelum ini menjadi barometer pertumbuhan properti di kawasan Jabotabek khususnya dan nasional umumnya, telah kembali ke jalur yang sebenarnya.
Data dari Pusat Studi Properti Indonesia menyebutkan, luas kawasan Segitiga Emas Jakarta mencapai 1.350 hektare dengan nilai pasar mencapai Rp 201,7 triliun. Jika dikurangi luas lahan untuk peruntukan antara lain rumah tinggal 347 hektare, perkantoran (87 hektare), apartemen dan hotel (76 hektare), pusat perbelanjaan dan proyek baru (35), maka masih ada lahan efektif seluas 805 hektare yang siap dikembangkan. Hingga tahun 2002 luas bangunan yang sudah terbangun di kawasan ini baru mencapai 9,5 juta meter persegi atau 20 persen dari luas keseluruhan kawasan Segitiga Emas.
Pengamat properti, Panangian Simanungkalit menyatakan bahwa masih ada potensi 39 juta meter persegi atau 80 persen lagi yang masih bisa digarap. Potensi untuk lahan efektif tersebut besarnya juga tidak tanggung-tanggung mencapai Rp 81,6 triliun. “Memang sepintas kita tidak akan menyangka bahwa masih ada lahan seluas itu di Jakarta, apalagi yang namanya di kawasan Segitiga Emas. Hanya saja memang arealnya terpencar-pencar. Sekarang sulit kita temukan areal yang luasnya mencapai hektaran. Tetapi faktanya inilah peluang besar yang bisa digarap,” ujar Panangian kepada SH, Kamis (12/6) di Jakarta.

Macet
Sebelum krisis ekonomi kawasan Segitiga Emas menjadi benchmark atau barometer pertumbuhan properti di Jakarta. Ketika itu harga tanah berlipat ganda berkisar Rp 5-10 juta/meter persegi. Seiring dengan booming minyak di era 1980-an, berbagai jenis properti menghiasi kawasan ini. Mal, perkantoran, apartemen, hotel, ramai dibangun.
Krisis ekonomilah yang kemudian menghentikan semua pembangunan itu. Sejumlah proyek pun beralih status menjadi proyek macet. BDNI Tower, Hotel Le Meridien II yang berlokasi di Jalan Sudirman, lalu ada pula Menara Bakrie, Apartemen Kuningan Square dan Adhi Karya di wilayah Kuningan, semuanya ambruk diterpa krisis.
Total nilai kapitalisasi dari proyek-proyek macet tersebut pun lumayan besar mencapai Rp 8,6 triliun. Kini sebagian proyek tersebut mulai kembali dikerjakan atau tengah menunggu uluran dari investor.
Segitiga Emas yang dipenuhi apartemen, perkantoran, mal, yang semuanya bernilai tinggi selama ini ternyata dikuasai oleh segelintir investor besar.
Diketahui sebanyak 10 investor memegang kapitalisasi pasar senilai lebih dari Rp 25 triliun. Siapa saja mereka itu?
Grup Mulia di tempat teratas dengan nilai kapitalisasi mencapai Rp 6,7 triliun dengan properti di antaranya Menara Mulia, Sentra Mulia, Wisma GKBI, Hotel Mulia, dan lain-lain.
Grup investor besar lain, Grup Artha Graha yang menguasai kawasan Niaga Sudirman Terpadu dengan aset properti mencakup antara lain Automall, Apartemen Kusuma Chandra, Gedung Artha Graha, Bursa Efek Jakarta I dan II, Electronic City, yang seluruhnya bernilai Rp 1,9 triliun.
Beberapa investor lain, Grup Liman and Salim dengan kapitalisasi Rp 2,9 triliun menguasai Plaza Central, Wisma BCA, BNI Tower, Wisma 46, Hotel Shangrila , lalu ada pula Duta Anggada yang menguasai Chase Plaza, Bapindo Center I dan II, Plaza Great River senilai total Rp 2,6 triliun. Disusul kemudian Grup Bakrie yang membangun Pasar Festival, Apartemen Taman Rasuna, Wisma Bakrie dengan investasi Rp 2,3 triliun, Duta Pertiwi Group yang membangun pusat ritel dan apartemen seperti ITC dan Apartemen Permata Hijau, investasi Rp 2,06 triliun, Sahid Group dengan investasi Rp 1,5 triliun, ataupun Lippo Group dengan nilai kapitalisasi Rp 1,5 triliun.

Selangit
Paska krisis, kini investasi baru perlahan-lahan mulai kembali mengalir. Menyusul sukses apartemen Four Seasons dan Apartemen Lippo di Sudirman dan Mal Ambassador di Kuningan, beberapa investor yang “bernyali” mencoba peruntungan dengan investasi di kawasan Segitiga Emas.
PT Central Lingga Perkasa yang merupakan sinergi dari dua developer yakni Gapura Prima Grup dan Metropolitan, mencoba merintis pembangunan Bellagio Residences dan Bellagio Mansion di Mega Kuningan. Bersebelahan dengan Hotel JW Marriot, dua properti lain akan segera memasuki tahap konstruksi yakni Apartemen Airlangga dan Hotel Ritz Carlton.
Dalam satu kesempatan, Rudy Margono, Dirut PT Central Lingga Perkasa, mengisahkan, Bellagio Residences yang punya 800 unit sudah hampir terjual habis. Sedang untuk Bellagio Mansion sudah terjual setengahnya dari total 180 unit. Bellagio Residences dipatok pada harga Rp 9 juta/meter persegi, sementara Bellagio Mansion lebih mahal lagi yakni Rp 12 juta/meter persegi.
“Memang pasca krisis kita adalah proyek apartemen menengah atas yang masuk pasar di segitiga emas. Pada waktu pertama kali kami mau mengerjakan proyek ini, banyak konsultan yang tidak merekomendasikan untuk dilanjutkan. Bayangkan, dalam krisis begini kita bisa jualan dan laku,” katanya.
Memang, krisis ekonomi tampaknya sama sekali tidak mengurangi harga jual properti di kawasan ini. Untuk masyarakat menengah atau kebanyakan, tentu tidak mungkin membeli apartemen atau properti lain yang ditawarkan dengan harga selangit.
Tengok saja, SCBD (Sudirman Central Business District) Suites yang dimiliki oleh Grup Artha Graha, kabarnya ditawarkan dengan harga Rp 15 juta/meter persegi.
Sementara itu Apartemen Da Vinci di bilangan Jl. Sudirman disulap dan dihargai Rp 20 juta/meter persegi. Tidak berbeda jauh dari itu, Apartemen Pinnacle yang dikembangkan oleh PT Aneka Bina Lestari, ditawarkan seharga Rp 18,5 juta/meter persegi untuk masa sewa lima tahun. Jelas saja itu diperuntukkan hanya bagi kalangan berkocek tebal atau kalangan atas.

”Selling Point”
Singkat kata, kawasan Segitiga Emas kini boleh dibilang telah bergairah kembali. Nadi dinamika sektor properti di sini kembali berdenyut. Sekalipun masih berdenyut perlahan, namun banyak kalangan meyakini pasti akan semakin membaik. Apalagi kini dengan suku bunga bank yang menukik ke level sekitar 10 persen dan rupiah yang stabil di kisaran Rp 8.500 dan stabilnya situasi politik dan ekonomi, banyak investor yang mulai melirik dan menaruh modal di sektor properti di kawasan Segitiga Emas.
Jika menyimak banyaknya proyek baru hingga tahun 2005 mendatang, tidak dipungkiri ada kekhawatiran bahwa akan terjadi over supply. Perusahaan konsultan manajemen properti Procon Indah dalam laporan triwulan pertama 2003 pernah mengisyaratkan kemungkinan terjadinya over suplai untuk apartemen dan kondominium. Ini mengingat tingkat hunian dan penjualan untuk dua properti ini yang nyaris konstan dibandingkan triwulan keempat tahun 2002.
Untuk apartemen misalnya, tingkat hunian (occupancy rate) tercatat hanya sebesar 64,8 persen, hanya meningkat 1,25 persen dibandingkan triwulan sebelumnya. Sementara pada kondominium, occupancy rate hanya naik 0,5 persen menjadi 47,5 persen.
Tony Eddy, Presdir Century 21 Casablanca yang merupakan salah satu broker properti yang berkantor di Mal Ambassador, Kuningan, mengungkapkan kekhawatirannya. Menurut hematnya, tidak banyak lahan kosong yang bisa dikembangkan di kawasan Segitiga Emas, paling-paling yang cukup luas adalah yang ada di Mega Kuningan.
Kekhawatirannya itu bukan tidak beralasan. Saat ini persaingan cukup ketat dengan hadirnya developer baru maupun lama. Dengan banyaknya developer tersebut ia menilai di pihak konsumen ada keragu-raguan. Terlebih konsumen kelas atas yang sangat selektif dalam kualitas dan image.
“Kebanyakan apartemen sekarang banyak yang dijual dengan sistem pre-sales. Artinya, sebelum jadi sudah dijual lagi. Pengalaman kita, banyak developer yang kurang begitu berpengalaman sudah membangun dan menjual. Akibatnya konsumen saat ini merasa ragu, apakah jadi dibangun atau sesuai dengan spesifikasi awal,” ungkapnya.
Pihak Century 21 Casablanca, ujar Eddy, saat ini menangani secara eksklusif empat proyek apartemen kelas menengah dan atas antara lain Buana Vista, Paviliun Setiabudi, dan Ibis. Suplai diakuinya cukup banyak, sehingga pembeli memiliki banyak pilihan. Namun semuanya kembali kepada selling point yakni produk properti itu sendiri, ditambah dengan kiat pemasaran dari agen properti. (SH/rudy victor sinaga)

http://www.geocities.com/wallstreet/3926/arpin.html

and wait for the animated graphics ;)

it's quite impressive!!

Originally posted by Mahaputra
That second pic looked quite recent.. coz it has the new sudirman statue on sudirman road..

I heard that that statue cost the city lots of money...:D But its nice anyways...:okay:

@ Alvin - That new Kelapa Gading CBD plan is for Kelepa Gading (dumb question, but its hard to believe:D)?? Where is the existing mall in those renderings? Woah, KG is booooming!

Nice pictures guys, well done !

@Mahaputra : so when is your flight? cant wait buddy :rant:

anyone in aussie and wanna meet for maybe ssc indonesian forumers? :D :D :D


Regards,

Originally posted by David-80

Nice pictures guys, well done !

@Mahaputra : so when is your flight? cant wait buddy :rant:

anyone in aussie and wanna meet for maybe ssc indonesian forumers? :D :D :D


Regards,

david: hehehe maybe around end of the month or early next month :D

in oz?? I'm in oz.. where d'ya wanna meet?? we should have a meet at jakarta

Originally posted by Alvin

http://www.geocities.com/wallstreet/3926/arpin.html

and wait for the animated graphics ;)

it's quite impressive!!

man.. I cant see anything..
my java for xp doesnt load.. crapp :rant:

Originally posted by Mahaputra

david: hehehe maybe around end of the month or early next month :D

in oz?? I'm in oz.. where d'ya wanna meet?? we should have a meet at jakarta


I cant go back to jakarta, probably next year but not sure, still got plenty of job to do here, what about Melbourne? it should be fun ;)

Originally posted by David-80

I cant go back to jakarta, probably next year but not sure, still got plenty of job to do here, what about Melbourne? it should be fun ;)

Melbourne? sounds good.. but when?? I'm definitely going to melbourne next year around march..
anyone else interested??
anyway.. I'm very delighted to hear that there are plenty projects and constructions going on in Jakarta.. cant wait to see them all finished.. the skyline will be awesome....:guns1:

I will come too if the meeting is in Melbourne

David-80, Do u want to come to the Melbourne meet ??

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63928

New apartment in Jakarta... One park Residence

article (In Indonesian) : http://www.bisnisproperti.com/property/art_detail.asp?id=4260

There's also a massive residential highrise u/c called Senayan Residences..(or do you guys already know that?)

Originally posted by Eric Wong

David-80, Do u want to come to the Melbourne meet ??

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63928


Eric, I will see if i can, you?

Originally posted by GreyX

There's also a massive residential highrise u/c called Senayan Residences..(or do you guys already know that?)

nope... how high is it ?? the one park is around 21 or 23 floors

Originally posted by Mahaputra
nope... how high is it ?? the one park is around 21 or 23 floors

I'm not so sure of how high it is but i'll check it out, the next time i go past the site.

good news guys!! I took lots of pics last weekend and here they come...

Sorry, no blue sky:(

The Westin Jakarta (on hold, possibly cancelled)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93westin-onhold.jpg

Jalan Sudirman
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93sudirman1.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93sudirman2.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93sudirman3.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93sudirman4.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93sudirman5.jpg

Da Vinci Tower:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93davinci.jpg

The Pinnacle (u/c) :
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93pinnacle.jpg

Plaza Semanggi (almost finished) : sorry if this picture isnt that good, i'll try to get a better angle next time.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93plazasemanggi.jpg

Kuningan
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93kuningan.jpg

The Four Seasons Serviced Apartments (rumors are they are hunted) sadly, there is a very low occupancy rate. They are such nice towers:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93fouseasons.jpg

BNI Towers (aka Wisma 46, FountainPen Building, Sailboat, etc)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93bni.jpg

Bank Indonesia Twin Towers:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93bi.jpg

I still have some busway photos to show you guys...i'll post them later. Enjoy the pics i posted!!:)

excellent job, Greyx!:guns1:

Terima Kasih:) I still have a few more to post, but i have hw to do:D

Just commenting taht that building next to Westin is so ugly :mad:

I agree, it's been there for a long time already. It was already there when i first arrived in Jakarta (1992).

More pics!!:)

The Famous Welcome Circle: (you can see some busway work on this picture)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93welcomecircle.jpg

Welcome Circle with the Grand Hyatt Hotel and Plaza Indonesia:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93welcomecircle2.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93welcomecircle3.jpg

nice pics of Bundaran HI!

and yeah..that brown building is such a sore in the eye :cool:

Nice pics of Jakarta

Originally posted by David-80

Eric, I will see if i can, you?

I don't know
I think I may go !!

Originally posted by GreyX

I agree, it's been there for a long time already. It was already there when i first arrived in Jakarta (1992).


Grey, Nice pictures there, well done ! btw is there any busway picture around? i mean the "bus" :D :D

Originally posted by Eric Wong

I don't know
I think I may go !!

Whats your phone number and email, so i can contact you then we might go together :D

Originally posted by David-80

Whats your phone number and email, so i can contact you then we might go together :D

This is my e-mail address

wongchonlap@hotmail.com

Nice pictures, some very nice buildings, can see a stretch all nice/modern buildings/structures. Jakarta is a massive city, lots of potential!..i give 7.5/10

@Eric, cheers.


@leealex24: thanks man, but i think Jakarta should have their highrise building concentrate on 4 or 5 CBDs area, so it will looks better. not separated in between each building so far away. You know just like Melbourne, sydney, KL, manila and bangkok CBD.

what do you think Alvin, Grey. Mahaputra? else? :D

David-80, where do u live in Melbourne ??

I live pretty far away from the city !!

The meeting is on this Friday

I totally agree with you, David. The Jakarta skyline is way to spread out in a linear fashion along Jl. Sudirman, Kuningan and Gatot Subroto. Because of this, there are so many empty lots yet to be built on. It would have been better if they planned it as a more centralized and dense CBD just like Melbourne, Sydney, Singapore, KL and Makati/Ortigas. But the good thing is, as time goes on, these empty lots will be built on and we will get one huge linear and dense Jakarta skyline. That could take decades though...

@Eric : Iam in docklands, you know, the new area beside telstra dome. its quite windy here. argh !


@Grey, exactly man, thats what i tot, it will looks awesome you know, especially for you, the city spotter ! :D :D

anymore pictures Grey?


Regards

Now that i finally posted pictures, Mahaputra is gone!!:rant: Where are you? come back!!:D:D:D

Yeah i have a few busway pics i will post soon.