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Mr. T May 4th, 2005, 01:37 AM The new stadium was made for handball for the Athens 2004 Olympics. It is situated in a beutiful location right on the beach and has great exterior architecture. I personally love this stadium and every aspect of it. I do not think they could have made a nicer looking stadium to go along with the surroundings.
What do you think?
http://www.stadia.gr/faliro/faliroworks7.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/faliro/faliroworks6.jpg
http://www.daniilidis.gr/main/olympic/images/500_51.jpg
http://www.athens2004.com/Images/Multimedia/images/24Jul2004Falir2_p.jpg
http://www.athens2004.com/Images/Multimedia/images/09Aug2004SportsPavil2_p.jpg
http://www.athens2004.com/Images/Multimedia/images/falirosportspavillion1_16-06.jpg
Photos from www.stadia.gr, www.athens2004.com, www.daniilidis.gr
Kuvvaci May 4th, 2005, 01:43 AM 8 from me! Who is the architect?
savas May 6th, 2005, 11:41 AM The Sports Pavilion is truly beautiful and very elegant. It has a capacity of 8,100 spectators and it was the venue of Taekwondo and Handball for the Athens 2004 Olympic Games. Unfortunately i do not know who the architekt is... I especially like the facades of wood...
Urban Dave May 6th, 2005, 11:44 AM Very nice outside! Inside is like many others ;)
www.sercan.de May 6th, 2005, 12:24 PM 9/10
looks very good
dande May 6th, 2005, 06:35 PM Isn´t that the old peace and friendship arena?
Mr. T May 6th, 2005, 09:52 PM Isn´t that the old peace and friendship arena?
No this is a completly new arena built for the 2004 games. Although it is close to Peace and Friendship Stadium they are not the same.
Homer Jay May 7th, 2005, 02:07 AM This one is great!!!
What'll happen with all the arenas in Athens after the Olympics. Are they in use, or just stand there empty?
savas May 7th, 2005, 01:13 PM The Peace and Friendship Stadium is this one.... They have the same shape but they dont look the same...
http://www.daniilidis.gr/main/construction/images/sef001.jpg
www.sercan.de May 7th, 2005, 01:43 PM The Peace and Friendship Stadium is bigger :D
PHXbevo May 7th, 2005, 07:58 PM pretty nice and retro exterior, which is pretty hot right now. what do they use these venues for after the olympics that they built for marginal sports? Looks like it could be converted into a nice concert venue.
7/10
dANIEL2004 May 8th, 2005, 06:19 AM This is the third best building of Athens olympic stadiums in my opinion,after the main Olympic stadium and the velodrome.Its in a fantastic seaside area and the atmosfere there during the olympics was so magical..
dANIEL2004 May 8th, 2005, 06:25 AM By the way I hope to host the next Eurovision song contest next year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Christos7 May 9th, 2005, 03:10 AM from losada of stadia.gr
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/losa7/35212/422733/0/dsc03271.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/losa7/35212/422734/0/dsc03273.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/losa7/35212/422735/0/dsc03282.jpg
Christos7 May 9th, 2005, 03:37 AM More pics of the area can be found here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=4072216#post4072216
Hviid May 9th, 2005, 05:13 AM I like the look of the outside .. and its surroundings .. 9/10
Giorgio May 22nd, 2005, 05:21 AM This is a Proposed Stadium for the Greek Team AEK
http://www.sportfm.gr/images/news/aek_85.jpg
King-Tomislav May 22nd, 2005, 03:56 PM Nothing special, not large, but at least it doesn't have a racing track. Good stadium
Christos7 May 23rd, 2005, 10:50 PM This stadium will never happen, AEK won't get a stadium there. Residents are complaining etc....
Plus it's not even an official proposal, but only one done since it is close to "election" time. Plus the current president said he wants a bigger and better stadium, and already said this land (Nea Philadelphia) cannot be built on.
Anyway, here are a few more pics:
http://tinypic.com/5517ja
http://tinypic.com/5517o0
http://tinypic.com/5517ps
http://tinypic.com/5517qx
aCidMinD81 May 27th, 2005, 06:22 AM I would like to set in my screen an Athens Olympic Stadium photo as wallpaper but I haven't found none with the appropiate size. Could someone post some 1024 x 768 pixel photos of the ceremonies?
Thanks!
Giorgio May 27th, 2005, 11:58 AM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=162142
That was a great thread that was closed for a stupid reason...apparently it went over a 500 post limit were vote for olympics 2012 is over 800 :bash:
You can see how close the voting became once Foreigners began to vote...then someone closed it :eek:
IchO May 27th, 2005, 12:39 PM hm.
Giorgio July 31st, 2005, 07:26 AM Heres a few photos i managed to find.
Old oaka looks like its fromn a third world country! :D
OLD OAKA
http://egnatia.ee.auth.gr/~tom/photos/fans09.jpg
NEW OAKA
http://panasonic.biz/ramsa/event_report/athens/image/oaka_4.jpg
OLD OAKA
http://www.bvn.com.au/BVN/internet/site.nsf/files/OAKA02/$file/Athens%20OAKA_02.jpg
NEW OAKA
http://www.stadia.gr/oaka/oakaworks36th.jpg
OLD OAKA
http://www.xs4all.nl/~marcbog/Grounds/panathinaikos.jpg
NEW OAKA
http://www.stadia.gr/oaka/oakaworks34th.jpg
Do you like the comaprison?
hngcm July 31st, 2005, 07:51 AM So they just added a pretty roof?
Giorgio July 31st, 2005, 08:09 AM No.
Tell me, why would a country rebuild a stadium when they have a perfectly good one with 75k capacity. They wouldnt whne they can redevelop.
The stadium recieved full redeveopment. It was stripped to its skeleton and totally remade. New Seating, new Screens, new Score Boards, new interiors and ofcousre the master peice thats the roof.
I understand you have something against OAKA, thats ok.
i understand. :yes:
Giorgio July 31st, 2005, 08:11 AM , the entire feild and track was remade. Theres an underground level underneath the soil. The stadium has been made into a guiant artifical ocean, as well as a Rally track.
dande July 31st, 2005, 01:58 PM The stadium itself dates from 1982, the two tier structure is on its way out nowdays. It reminds me of Berlin olympic stadium before renovation. Athens stadium is nice but it cannot compete with Stade de France or new Wembley.
dANIEL2004 July 31st, 2005, 02:56 PM Of course it cannot compete with Stade de France or New Wembley.These are just very good stadia.But OAKA is a momument of modern Art.
savas July 31st, 2005, 03:51 PM The New OAKA (Athens Olympic Sport Complex) was and still is one of the best Sport Complexes worldwide.
It includes:
- The Olympic Stadium
- The Olympic Velodrome
- The Olympic Indoor Hall
- The Olympic Aquatic Centre
- The Olympic Tennis Centre
- The Agora
- The Wall of the Nations
- The Antidoping Centre
http://www.daniilidis.gr/main/olympic/images/53907.jpg http://www.daniilidis.gr/main/olympic/images/81fv8038.jpg http://www.daniilidis.gr/main/olympic/images/81fv8033.jpg http://www.daniilidis.gr/main/olympic/images/52643.jpg http://img12.echo.cx/img12/2940/543289jl.jpg
http://de.structurae.de/files/photos/2055/pb140076.jpg
http://de.structurae.de/files/photos/2055/pb140064.jpg
http://de.structurae.de/files/photos/2055/pb140075.jpg
http://de.structurae.de/files/photos/2055/pb140070.jpg
http://de.structurae.de/files/photos/2055/pb140090.jpg
http://de.structurae.de/files/photos/2055/pb140086.jpg
http://de.structurae.de/files/photos/2055/pb140046.jpg
http://de.structurae.de/files/photos/2055/pb140066.jpg
http://de.structurae.de/files/photos/2055/pb140034.jpg
http://de.structurae.de/files/photos/2055/pb140027.jpg
http://de.structurae.de/files/photos/2055/pb140037.jpg
http://www.calatrava.info/images/buildings/olympics/complex1.jpg
http://www.calatrava.info/images/buildings/olympics/complex3.jpg
http://www.calatrava.info/images/buildings/olympics/velodrome3.jpg
http://www.athens2004.com/Images/Multimedia/images/07jul0405930_061_envirP.jpg http://www.athens2004.com/Images/Multimedia/images/10Aug2004OakaAqu1_p.jpg
http://www.athens2004.com/Images/Legacy/calatrava/closing_ceremony1_29-09.jpg
dANIEL2004 July 31st, 2005, 04:09 PM As for the shape of OAKA..many people dont like because its just a bowl...Thats truth but it was designed to be a stadium with a great view from all the seats and great acoustic.All the nessecary insfracturues are at the west side and underground and these area is not visible.The design of OAKA from the first moment was the absolute simplicity and everybody see it now,when Calatrava added the beauty to the simplicity.And its at the top of the most tecnologically advanced stadiums due to the Olympic insfracture!
Giorgio July 31st, 2005, 04:44 PM Personally, i think it can sompete against stade de france.
Its better looking,
anyway, i like the bowl
MoreOrLess July 31st, 2005, 04:50 PM One of the best things about the redesign for me is that the roof's beauty is actually visable from within the stadium not only from the outside or above.
The old pics actually remind me alot of Dynamo Kiev's current stadium, I wonder if they are planning a similar redevolpment if Ukraine win euro 2012?
Theogr July 31st, 2005, 08:50 PM The stadium cannot compete with Stade de france or new Wembley? I personally believe that Stade de France is unispiring and actually put off IOC members to vote for Paris.New Wembley looks great but it is not finished yet and I still don't think that it is more beautiful than Athens Olympic Stadium.
I've been to the Athens Olympic Stadium and other European stadiums in UK and Germany and I think my judgement is quite objective. Athens Olympic Stadium is absolutely magnificent! It is simple and classy!
Great pics Savas!!!!
savas July 31st, 2005, 10:56 PM thanks... i will post some more photos of the OAKA soon...
Morten M August 1st, 2005, 12:22 AM Why make a new thread about stadium that has allready been discussed in here ten thousand times before?
hngcm August 1st, 2005, 12:34 AM No.
Tell me, why would a country rebuild a stadium when they have a perfectly good one with 75k capacity. They wouldnt whne they can redevelop.
The stadium recieved full redeveopment. It was stripped to its skeleton and totally remade. New Seating, new Screens, new Score Boards, new interiors and ofcousre the master peice thats the roof.
I understand you have something against OAKA, thats ok.
i understand. :yes:
oh, well you can't really tell that much from the pictures
but good:)
Zizu August 1st, 2005, 01:26 AM The stadium is ok. The roof is very nice. But I don't like the layout of the tiers. I think it's not up to date. Well ok, the stadium is old...
The Olympic facilities are really beautiful.
hngcm August 1st, 2005, 09:06 AM What does OAKA stand for?
Madman August 1st, 2005, 09:11 AM Savas already said...
Athens Olympic Sport Complex
Giorgio August 1st, 2005, 10:00 AM Why make a new thread about stadium that has allready been discussed in here ten thousand times before?
No one told you to come. Pisso ff and walk away and dont enter my thread if you dont like it...
BobDaBuilder August 1st, 2005, 10:10 AM I read that a number of the Olympic venues from the games may well have to be demolished because it costs more to keep them open.
In Sydney for example, it would be cheaper to take the wrecking ball to the Olympic Park than to keep it open as the running costs, plus debt repayments cost a fortune.
Giorgio August 1st, 2005, 12:20 PM err i think that would be in almost everywere. i mean, were would you need a weightlifting hall and a state of the art velodrome?
ExSydney August 1st, 2005, 02:21 PM I read that a number of the Olympic venues from the games may well have to be demolished because it costs more to keep them open.
In Sydney for example, it would be cheaper to take the wrecking ball to the Olympic Park than to keep it open as the running costs, plus debt repayments cost a fortune.
The MCG is still running a debt from the Great Southern Stand built in 1990 and will be further in debt after completion of the Northern Stand.
It will be cheap to knock down any stadium anywhere in the world and then it wouldnt need to be maintained!
Sydneys Olympic Park is running just fine and maintenence costs are no different than anyhwere else.
dANIEL2004 August 1st, 2005, 03:26 PM Who is talking about Sydneys park in this thread????Get out!
satit28 August 1st, 2005, 03:27 PM athens olympic venues are just UNBELIEVABLE..............
savas August 1st, 2005, 04:27 PM calm down daniel... that was just a reply....
Jose Luis August 1st, 2005, 06:46 PM I love the stadium and the entire complex.
NavyBlue August 4th, 2005, 12:55 PM The entire complex is simply world class as you would expect from a city that's just held the Olympics but the main stadium is extremely overrated. It's a very good stadium but apart from the striking roof which is losing it's appeal, it's a patched up old stadium that lacks the features (eg. retractable seats, corporate suites, retractable roof, etc...) of most new stadiums built recently.
Giorgio August 4th, 2005, 04:19 PM whats retractable seats?
NavyBlue August 5th, 2005, 12:03 PM whats retractable seats?
Seats that are able to be moved in or out to enlarge or decrease the size of the pitch to suit a particular sport. Stad de France has a running track which becomes concealed by bringing the lower tier closer to the pitch for a soccer match. Stad Oz and Telstra dome in Australia also have this feature.
Giorgio August 5th, 2005, 12:08 PM thats a good idea, unfortunatly, the skeleton was built in 1982, when the technology wasnt broadly available. it woyuld be difficult to make that happen now.
Do you guys rwkon when the actualstadium becomes delapodated, they could make an entire new interior? like remove the stadium keep the roof and build undeR? is it possible?
hngcm August 6th, 2005, 07:22 AM That looks to be very possible
Bitxofo August 6th, 2005, 07:43 AM ¡Viva Calatrava!
:D
Giorgio August 6th, 2005, 11:38 AM That looks to be very possible
True.
But whats the chance of it happening?
They tear down the roof as well if it were to happen, or just build in a new locale
savas August 6th, 2005, 12:28 PM dear giorgos...
i dont think that something like that will happen soon... Theý have spend so much money for the redesign of the OAKA and the Roof of Calatrava and the renovation of the Stadium.
I also think that the shape of the stadium is just perfect. This is an olympic stadium. The oval shape makes it unique. I dont know why people say that oval stadiums are outdated...
Giorgio August 6th, 2005, 01:36 PM no i love the oval shape.
it is modern. Unlike the seats that folow the curve of the roof.
Giorgio October 8th, 2005, 03:55 PM OAKA Spyros Louis (Athens Olympic Stadium)
Capacity: 72,000
http://www.stadia.gr/oaka/oakaworks35.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/oaka/oakaworks34th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/oaka/oakaworks33.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/oaka/oakaworks32.jpg
Helleniko Arena
Capacity: 14,500
http://www.stadia.gr/hellinikon/hellinikon7.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/hellinikon/hellinikon8.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/hellinikon/hellinikon6.jpg
Ano Liossia Arena
Capacity: 9, 300
My Favourite Arena in Athens, i love the exterior.
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3359/liossia1308p1rd.jpg
It is located 13 km north of the centre of Athens, in the district of Ano Liossia. Access is very easy through Attiki Odos, the Athens ring road (exit #5, signposted "Egaleo Ring, Ano Liossia"). Note that the new arena lies right next to the Akratitos Stadium.
Ano Liossia Arena was designed by architects "Molfesis, Genias and associates". Works for its construction commenced in October 2001 by J&P-Avax SA. They were finished in January 2004 at a cost of about € 84 million. The arena was inaugurated on 16 January 2004, during the 2004 Athens International Judo Open.
http://www.stadia.gr/anoliossia/anoliossia8.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/anoliossia/anoliossia9.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/anoliossia/anoliossia5.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/anoliossia/anoliossia7.jpg
Peace and Friendship Stadium
Capacity: 14, 095
http://www.stadia.gr/sef/sefnew8.jpg
The arena is known widely as "SEF", which are the initials of its name in Greek (Stadio Erinis & Filias). It is built right opposite Karaiskaki Stadium, on the seafront. The arena was designed by architects "Thymios Papagiannis and associates" at a cost of € 25 million (1983 prices). In 1991 it received the Golden Award by IAKS (International Working Group for the Construction of Sports and Leisure Facilities). Besides basketball, its multi-purpose main arena is also able to host athletics, gymnastics, volleyball, handball, ice skating etc, but also concerts, conventions and exhibitions.
It has hosted a number of international events in various sports. The major competitions were: Basketball - World Championships preliminary phase (1998), European Championships (1987), Euroleague Final (1985) and Final-4 (1993), CupWinners' Cup Final (1989)
Volleyball - World Championships (1994), European Championships (1995), Teams European Cup Final-4 (1992 & 1993), CupWinners' Cup Final-4 (1996), Top Teams Cup Final-4 (2005)
Athletics - European Indoor Championships (1985)
Wrestling - World Cup (1988) and Championships (1999), European Championships (1986)
Gymnastics - World Championships (1991), European Championships (1990)
Weightlifting - World Championships (1999)
http://www.stadia.gr/sef/sefnew10th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/sef/sefnew9th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/sef/sefnew7th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/sef/sefnew14.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/sef/sefnew11th.jpg
Karaiskaki Stadium
Capacity: 33,000
http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/karaiskaki24th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/karaiskaki1th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/karaiskaki6th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/karaiskaki2th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/karaiskaki5th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/karaiskaki4th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/karaiskaki25.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/liverpool4.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/karaiskaki7.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/karaiskaki26.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/karaiskaki18.jpg
Galatsi Indoor Arena
http://www.stadia.gr/galatsi/galatsinow16th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/galatsi/galatsinow14th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/galatsi/galatsinow17th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/galatsi/galatsinow15th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/galatsi/galatsinow18th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/galatsi/galatsinow12th.jpg
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD TO THIS LIST PICS AND INFO AS WELL AS PROPOSALS.
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Mo Rush October 8th, 2005, 06:01 PM They all great im just glad you didnt add any of those generic, athletic stadiums built...that would have spoilt it
THIS IS MY FAVOURITE i love it love it love it
http://www.stadia.gr/faliro/faliroworks6.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/faliro/faliro1.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/faliro/faliro2.jpg
http://www.vg.no/sport/ol/2004/bilder/arena/faliro_large.jpg
www.sercan.de October 8th, 2005, 06:36 PM what about the Olympic Sports Hall (18.700)
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/greece/athens_olympic2.jpg
Giorgio October 9th, 2005, 10:52 AM Thanks for the pics mo.
@sercan:
i could have sworn i added the olympic sports hall! ill make sure i add it. btw this thread is still underconstruction.
Zorba October 13th, 2005, 06:58 PM Greece has one of the top basketball leagues in Europe, and Greek Clubs have won multiple European Championships. Not to mention the Greek national team has recently become the European Champions.
I think now would be a good time to showcase all the arenas of the Greek basketball first division. :cheers:
AEK Athens: Galatsi Arena-5,141 (used in Olympics)
http://stadia.gr/galatsi/galatsinow16th.jpg
http://stadia.gr/galatsi/galatsinow15th.jpg
Apollon Patras: Patras Arena-4,150
http://stadia.gr/tofalos/kleisto_patras_tofalos4.jpg
http://stadia.gr/tofalos/kleisto_patras_tofalos6.jpg
Aris: Alexandrio Arena-4,800
http://stadia.gr/alexandrio/alexandrio7th.jpg
http://stadia.gr/alexandrio/alexandrio8th.jpg
http://stadia.gr/alexandrio/alexandrio6th.jpg
Iraklis: Ivanofio Indoor Hall-2,500
http://stadia.gr/ivanofio/ivanofio.jpg
http://stadia.gr/ivanofio/ivanofioapoiraklisgr.jpg
Iraklis are moving to a new arena soon
http://stadia.gr/dyoaorakia/dyoaorakia.html
Larissa G.S., Olympia Larissa: Larissa Arena-3,000
http://stadia.gr/larissa/larissa5.jpg
http://stadia.gr/larissa/larissa4.jpg
Makedonikos: Kozani Indoor Hall
http://stadia.gr/kozani-b/kozaniold1th.jpg
Makedonikos are moving to a new arena next year
http://stadia.gr/kozani-b/kozani-b.html
Maroussi: Maroussi Indoor Hall- 1,350
http://stadia.gr/marousi/marousi.jpg
http://stadia.gr/marousi/marousi2.jpg
Olympiakos: Peace and Friendship Stadium- 14,905 (used in Olympics)
http://stadia.gr/sef/sefnew8th.jpg
http://stadia.gr/sef/sefnew9th.jpg
http://stadia.gr/sef/sefnew7th.jpg
Panathinaikos: Olympic Sports Hall(old photos)- 18,700 (used in Olympics)
http://stadia.gr/oaka-b/kleisto_oaka5.jpg
http://stadia.gr/oaka-b/kleisto_oaka3.jpg
http://stadia.gr/oaka-b/kleisto_oaka4.jpg
Panionios: Helliniko Arena-14,500 (used in Olympics)
http://stadia.gr/hellinikon/hellinikon6.jpg
http://stadia.gr/hellinikon/hellinikon9th.jpg
PAOK: PAOK Arena- 8,700
http://stadia.gr/paok/kleisto_paok4.jpg
http://stadia.gr/paok/kleisto_paok10.jpg
http://stadia.gr/paok/kleisto_paok8.jpg
www.sercan.de October 13th, 2005, 07:34 PM thats so great
so many big Arenas
and all are used
i liked that
so Panathinaikos is bigger at Basketball?
Giorgio October 13th, 2005, 07:39 PM not exactly. they just get good venue ;)
www.sercan.de October 14th, 2005, 01:01 AM come on :D
give a list of all grekk Basketballchampions ;)
i am sure that Panathinaikos is leading
Zorba October 14th, 2005, 02:22 AM ^^
Yes Panathinaikos is better at Basketball. They have won six European Championships, and the most recent one came in 2002.
Olympiakos is better at football, and Panathinaikos is better at Basketball.
www.sercan.de October 14th, 2005, 02:37 AM do you have a list of all champions?
from beginning to 2005
Zorba October 14th, 2005, 02:47 AM Sorry I meant Greek teams have won a combined five European Championships. 4 of the 5 titles have come since 1996 which means that the Greek league has improved greatly recently, and is now arguably the best in Europe.
2002- Panathinaikos
2000- Panathinaikos
1997- Olympiakos
1996- Panathinaikos
1967- AEK Athens
Giorgio October 14th, 2005, 07:45 AM ohk fine! :(
so maybe the OTHERS are better at Bball.
i would prefer not to mention there name... :( :( :(
Alexander21 October 14th, 2005, 08:25 AM 2002 Saporta Cup - AEK Athens BC
I wouldnt say the Greek league is the best in Europe now. It used to be and was ranked as the second best league in the world, after the NBA. But many of our best players now play in foreign leagues due to higher wages elsewhere. Of course I think Panathinaikos is an exception and is the best team in Greece by far. Their big rivals OSFP and AEK are struggling.
Giorgio October 14th, 2005, 02:59 PM no u only just realised that Basketball is liked in Greece
Landos October 14th, 2005, 03:01 PM Heee's baaaaaaaaaack.
Why does Conan not like basketball? Because he was never good at controlling his dribbling. :bash:
www.sercan.de October 14th, 2005, 07:26 PM Greeks love Basketball for years
i don't know
but i would say it startet in the 50s
its one of the oldest Basketball generations
Zorba October 14th, 2005, 08:18 PM 2002 Saporta Cup - AEK Athens BC
I wouldnt say the Greek league is the best in Europe now. It used to be and was ranked as the second best league in the world, after the NBA. But many of our best players now play in foreign leagues due to higher wages elsewhere. Of course I think Panathinaikos is an exception and is the best team in Greece by far. Their big rivals OSFP and AEK are struggling.
Olympiakos have made some big pick ups this off-season and I would expect them to do very well in Europe.
Let's not forget the "biggest" one of them all:
Sofoklis Schortsianitis A.K.A. 'Baby Shaq'. He will be playing for the Greek national team very soon.
http://www.olympiacos.org/_images/basketball/1/Player/Face/972.jpg
BTW, Here is another photo of the Athens Olympic Sports Complex in which you can see the Athens Olympic Sports Hall.
http://photos.***************/donsears/athens/large/000_olympic_sports_complex_aerial.jpg
Christos7 October 14th, 2005, 09:58 PM It's called a black person.
Greek father, african (Cameroon) mother.
Zorba October 14th, 2005, 10:36 PM I think it is really good that Panionios is using Helliniko indoor hall. It would be a shame to see such a beutiful stadium rot like that. I went to the stadium on two seprate occasions during the Olympics and it really is great. It has an amazing view from any seat.
Landos October 15th, 2005, 02:35 AM Conan, edit out your swearing before somebody reports you. You'll note I asked you first, didn't run whining to the Mods like some folks.
Tell me more about Sofoklis, Christos. What position does he play? Stats?
Zorba October 15th, 2005, 03:37 AM Conan, edit out your swearing before somebody reports you. You'll note I asked you first, didn't run whining to the Mods like some folks.
Tell me more about Sofoklis, Christos. What position does he play? Stats?
He is 6'7 feet tall/2.06 meters tall. He plays center, and this is his first year.
Giorgio October 15th, 2005, 07:20 AM Helleniko is One of my favourite arenas because inside it looks so modern and nice!
alexx02 October 15th, 2005, 07:25 AM Why do the Greeks like basketball all of a sudden? Is it because you realised you're no good at football.
Nah we just started liking soccer again recently. Basketball has always been the strongest team sport in Greece.
Giorgio October 15th, 2005, 07:30 AM and since the other day we hate football again :)
DAMN TURKEY!! (and Denmark!) :D
Wezza October 15th, 2005, 10:42 AM He is 6'7 feet tall/2.06 meters tall. He plays center, and this is his first year.
He's small for a centre!! He must be strong & have a decent vertical leap? Usually centres are upwards of 6'10" Is there many really big guys in the Greek league?
Köbtke October 15th, 2005, 02:49 PM He is 6'7 feet tall/2.06 meters tall. He plays center, and this is his first year.
Center at 6'7? He does actually look a bit like Shaq from that picture.
Christos7 October 15th, 2005, 06:45 PM Actually he's 6'9. Some list him at 6'10.
He is young and kind of raw, for his age is (was) a huge boy and had the body type to become big time. He was drafted in the NBA. He doesn't exactly have a good enough shot to play forward. He has a weight problem also which hurts his game, although he is very strong. He isn't living up to expectations as it stands right now, and kind of has an attitude problem.... time will tell how he does though.
Cerises October 15th, 2005, 08:38 PM There was some buzz about him over the past few years about him playing in the NBA but I guess he wasn't deemed ready yet (meaning he wasn't 1st draft pick I think).
Zorba October 15th, 2005, 10:04 PM Actually he's 6'9. Some list him at 6'10.
The Olympiakos website has him listed at 2.06 meters tall which is 6'7.
Iain1974 October 15th, 2005, 11:14 PM The Olympiakos website has him listed at 2.06 meters tall which is 6'7.
2m06 = 6 foot 9 and a half.
Zorba October 16th, 2005, 12:09 AM ^^
Oops. :)
NuSpirit October 16th, 2005, 01:16 AM Sofo's mother is from Cameroon, his father is Greek. When they got married, they were living in Alexandroupoli, some years later they moved to Kavala and then he started playing basketball. And then scouters from Iraklis came and asked him to play for them, he agreed and then they all moved to Thessaloniki, one or two years later to an Italian team, back to Thessaloniki but this time for Aris, and now to Athens and Olympiakos. He has a brother named Alexandros, aged 18. Sofoklis loves Dragon Ball, his favourite character is Piccolo, he also loves Pokemon, his favourite food is "keftedakia" and "paidakia", made by my mother. He likes Rap music like 2pac etc. For many years his favourite pc game was Starcraft "Broodwar". And almost every summer he goes to Kavala to see his friends. When we were 12 years old, i remember i had beatten him in a basketball challenge :D well...that's history ofcourse... Anyway I'll send him an sms to see how's he doin :):):)
Zorba October 16th, 2005, 05:27 AM Sofo's mother is from Cameroon, his father is Greek. When they got married, they were living in Alexandroupoli, some years later they moved to Kavala and then he started playing basketball. And then scouters from Iraklis came and asked him to play for them, he agreed and then they all moved to Thessaloniki, one or two years later to an Italian team, back to Thessaloniki but this time for Aris, and now to Athens and Olympiakos. He has a brother named Alexandros, aged 18. Sofoklis loves Dragon Ball, his favourite character is Piccolo, he also loves Pokemon, his favourite food is "keftedakia" and "paidakia", made by my mother. He likes Rap music like 2pac etc. For many years his favourite pc game was Starcraft "Broodwar". And almost every summer he goes to Kavala to see his friends. When we were 12 years old, i remember i had beatten him in a basketball challenge :D well...that's history ofcourse... Anyway I'll send him an sms to see how's he doin :):):)
Wow. It seems you know a lot about him. You must be a friend of his. :)
Wezza October 16th, 2005, 12:04 PM LOL @ NuSpirits avatar.
Thanks for the background info btw!!
Alexander21 October 17th, 2005, 05:26 AM "Nah we just started liking soccer again recently. Basketball has always been the strongest team sport in Greece."
Basketball has ALWAYS played second fiddle to football in Greece. It has always been popular but not to the level football has been. Basketball had its day in the sun from the mid 80's until the late 90's. It will always be popular but will be a support act to football.
Olympiakos is terrible this season, I mean they were pummelled at HOME to the Greens by 30 points. They will have a bad season. I see Panathinaikos dominating quite easily this season.
Kommandant Mark October 17th, 2005, 05:48 AM After seeing this thread, its obvious that during the last 10-15 years, Greece has invested a lot more into its basketball than Serbia has...so it only makes sense that you are the current European Champion:yes:
Great arenas:okay:
btw, nice avatar Alexander;)
Alexander21 October 17th, 2005, 09:41 AM It's the only double headed eagle I could use!
Giorgio October 17th, 2005, 09:52 AM Off topic here, were is Eurovision going to be held? is it Ano Liossias?
back on track, did you make it up Nuspirit or do you know him? Cool if you do!
Giorgio October 17th, 2005, 09:53 AM Could you add some info here zorba? http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=266231
Prometheus October 17th, 2005, 11:47 AM Why do the Greeks like basketball all of a sudden? Is it because you realised you're no good at football.
Unfortunately for us Greeks we happen to be both European Football and Basketball Champions.
Sucks to us eh?
NuSpirit October 18th, 2005, 02:41 AM Wow. It seems you know a lot about him. You must be a friend of his. :)
Yes we are very good friends. And I'll tell you a small secret... He was always a Panathinaikos fan. His dream was to play at Panathinaikos for some years, and then leave Greece for Los Angeles Lakers. Who knows?!?! If this happens, he will be known as "Bibo Sugar Schorchs" in the NBA.
Thanks for the background info btw!!
You're welcome :)
back on track, did you make it up Nuspirit or do you know him? Cool if you do!
No I didn't make it up, we're good friends for more that 10 years.
Landos October 18th, 2005, 06:04 AM Unfortunately for us Greeks we happen to be both European Football and Basketball Champions.
Why don't you tap that into your pipe and puff on it, Conan? :bash:
Kuvvaci October 30th, 2005, 01:21 PM I really envy for two things; 1. The importance you give for Basketball 2. The Arenas in Athens.
Also Basketball is landwide in Greece.
Giorgio October 30th, 2005, 01:27 PM Envy is such a bad quality :D
greekguymike October 30th, 2005, 01:29 PM i love greece
Giorgio October 30th, 2005, 02:07 PM how random lol
Kuvvaci October 30th, 2005, 02:34 PM Envy is such a bad quality :D
I mean jealous, my mind stop when I am fasting :runaway:
Christos7 October 30th, 2005, 08:20 PM I really envy for two things; 1. The importance you give for Basketball 2. The Arenas in Athens.
Also Basketball is landwide in Greece.
Kuvacci, in Turkey basketball is also very big isn't it? And you have nice arenas also don't you? No need to feel envy.
Christos7 November 2nd, 2005, 11:42 PM Larissa G.S., Olympia Larissa: Larissa Arena-3,000
New pics from stadia.gr for the stadium in Larisa (Neapolis):
http://www.stadia.gr/larissa/larissa8.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/larissa/larissa6.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/larissa/larissa7.jpg
If you want to update the first page Zorba. And also, the arena has a capacity of 4.000, with the capabilities of adding temporary seats increasing it to 5,500.
Zorba November 2nd, 2005, 11:56 PM Thanks for the update Christos.
Prometheus November 4th, 2005, 11:07 AM Aris BC-Alexandrio Arena
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/9610/intro8xu.jpg
gm2263 November 4th, 2005, 11:55 AM Galatsi Gymnastics Hall:
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/334310/0/Galatsi+Gymnastics+Centrs+-+From+Tourkovounia.JPG
www.sercan.de November 4th, 2005, 12:07 PM Kuvacci, in Turkey basketball is also very big isn't it? And you have nice arenas also don't you? No need to feel envy.
there is a big basketball tradition
but the arenas are.... :D
Prometheus November 4th, 2005, 12:10 PM Can you please post the major ones?
Besiktas' stadium I know is stunning.
http://www.mola-online.net/Resimler/Bjk/akatlar/6b.jpg
http://www.mola-online.net/Resimler/Bjk/akatlar/11b.jpg
http://www.mola-online.net/Resimler/Bjk/akatlar/10b.jpg
www.sercan.de November 4th, 2005, 12:41 PM yes
BJK one is very beautiful
but the capacity is aorund 3,500
Abdi Ipekçi-Istanbul-10,500
http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/6742/farukabdi32rd.th.jpg (http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=farukabdi32rd.jpg)
http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/7923/emutluabdi113qp.th.jpg (http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emutluabdi113qp.jpg)
Halkapinar-Izmir-9,242
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6203/rafetsmyrnapicture018an.jpg
ASKI-Ankara-5,700
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/5601/askisercan7kk.jpg
Atatürk-Ankara-4,500
http://www.tbf.org.tr/tbfweb/tbfweb2.nsf/0/19a52613aef19157c2256e3e004fc991/BS_Blob/0.84?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=gif
u/c Sinan Erdem Dome-Istanbul-22,500 :(
proposed for WC 2010
10,000 Antalya
7,500 Ankara
7,200 Kayseri
Prometheus November 5th, 2005, 10:24 AM Well they look quite respectable Sercan. The Gr A1 stadiums are certainly not head and shoulders above them.
Also, let me add that Larissa'a indoor arena is hella ugly on the outside. Looks like a shed. However the inside redeems it. It looks very cosy.
alexx02 November 6th, 2005, 12:24 AM That's wrong. Basketball has been the most popular sport in Greece for the past two decades. Only after 2004 has soccer started to regain any glamour.
"Nah we just started liking soccer again recently. Basketball has always been the strongest team sport in Greece."
Basketball has ALWAYS played second fiddle to football in Greece. It has always been popular but not to the level football has been. Basketball had its day in the sun from the mid 80's until the late 90's. It will always be popular but will be a support act to football.
Olympiakos is terrible this season, I mean they were pummelled at HOME to the Greens by 30 points. They will have a bad season. I see Panathinaikos dominating quite easily this season.
www.sercan.de November 6th, 2005, 02:28 PM Well they look quite respectable Sercan. The Gr A1 stadiums are certainly not head and shoulders above them.
Also, let me add that Larissa'a indoor arena is hella ugly on the outside. Looks like a shed. However the inside redeems it. It looks very cosy.
lol
you ask for the major ones only :D
sould i show the small one :D
better not :D
krainer December 25th, 2005, 12:00 AM A little note to Mo Rush:
I love that satdium very much too and it is located in the region where I live. However the stadium in the picture on the top is a different one http://www.vg.no/sport/ol/2004/bilder/arena/faliro_large.jpg
It is called "Peace and Friendship" stadium and it is much older than the other one. They do look a bit alike and they are located not much far away from each other and BTW I pass from that bridge in the picture above like every day! The stadium you love is a Tae Kwon Do arena and the stadium in the last picture of the ones above is a Beach Voley arena.
Mo Rush December 25th, 2005, 02:07 AM thanks a lot i know they are different...ive always known...i have google earth as well..they both along the coast...not too far from each other....the peace and friendship stadium hosted indoor volleyball...:D thanks though
pompeyfan March 23rd, 2006, 09:12 AM This stadium, soon to be constructed in Larissa, Greece, is to hold 21000 people and also has a retracting roof
south March 23rd, 2006, 02:33 PM 21000 is not many...
still, a picture would be nice.
Giorgio March 23rd, 2006, 03:04 PM 21k is plenty for Larissa.
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew7.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew10.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew9.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew8.jpg
eddyk March 23rd, 2006, 03:11 PM The roof (from the inside) reminds me of that stadium in Dallas.
alexandros1984 March 23rd, 2006, 04:19 PM This is what they will build and not that one ^^
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew11.JPG
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew12.JPG
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew13.JPG
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew14.JPG
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew15.JPG
Kampflamm March 23rd, 2006, 04:25 PM Nice. Why would you need a retractable roof in Greece anyway?
alexandros1984 March 23rd, 2006, 04:33 PM Nice. Why would you need a retractable roof in Greece anyway?
We have snow in greece too ;)
ael March 23rd, 2006, 07:12 PM unfortunately,the one with the retractable roof is not going to be build. it would be a state of the art for greek football stadia.however,the greek goverment decided not to co-fund the construction.so,the club( AELarissas ) decided to build the one shown at alexandros' post.it will cost 25-28M Euros and will be an UEFA 3star stadium.not bad for a city like Larissa.a shopping plaza is also planned to build next to the stadium,which will cost about 13M euros.
Although I prefer the dome one,I believe that the second proposal is more realistic and still a good looking football ground.
Giorgio March 24th, 2006, 08:28 AM 28million is heaps for a stadium like that!
pompeyfan March 24th, 2006, 10:15 AM Nice. Why would you need a retractable roof in Greece anyway?
Retractable Rooves are necessary for rain, snow, and other weather phenomena
http://groups.msn.com/stadiumsoftheworld/
pompeyfan March 24th, 2006, 10:17 AM This is what they will build and not that one ^^
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew11.JPG
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew12.JPG
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew13.JPG
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew14.JPG
http://www.stadia.gr/alkazar/alkazarnew/alkazarnew15.JPG
Gosh that's horrible compared to the other one!
pompeyfan March 24th, 2006, 10:19 AM how do you post pictures with the message??
Giorgio March 24th, 2006, 11:09 AM What do you mean?
Giorgio March 24th, 2006, 11:15 AM I cant believe the government wont fund it. Why not?
cphdude March 24th, 2006, 11:38 AM unfortunately,the one with the retractable roof is not going to be build. it would be a state of the art for greek football stadia.however,the greek goverment decided not to co-fund the construction.so,the club( AELarissas ) decided to build the one shown at alexandros' post.it will cost 25-28M Euros and will be an UEFA 3star stadium.not bad for a city like Larissa.a shopping plaza is also planned to build next to the stadium,which will cost about 13M euros.
Although I prefer the dome one,I believe that the second proposal is more realistic and still a good looking football ground.
If this, more basic, second one, costs 28 million euros, what was the price for the original one they turned down...?
Giorgio March 24th, 2006, 02:48 PM It wouldnt be because the government didnt want to fund it so the club is paying for a cheaper stadium.
ael March 24th, 2006, 06:28 PM @cphdude:41M euros :) the club would pay 28m and the rest would be paid by the government.I have no idea why they turned it down.
unfortunately,the club can't afford an amount like that :(
the second project is going to cost 41m as well,but 13m of this amount are going to the shopping plaza construction which is vital for the maintenance of the stadium.
:)
hngcm March 25th, 2006, 02:03 AM I like the 2nd one more
a retractable roof for a 21,000 seater?
and soccer is meant to be played in any weather condition
hell, soccer games aren't cancelled due to snow
Lostboy March 25th, 2006, 02:07 AM I was expecting a basketball arena for some reason.
Christos7 March 25th, 2006, 02:15 AM The first one was actually going to be built (30,000+) if we hosted the Euro (2012) but since the bid failed that was the end of that. So Larisa has to fund the stadium themselves now and ofcourse it has been scaled back alot.
As for the retractable roof, actually Larisa is in central Greece and can see some extreme weather. The winters are brutal, and the windstorms can be pretty bad. But nontheless they manage now without a roof, so it was a luxury more than anything else.
Anyway, it's good to see Larisa back in the top division, they have such a great story and history (only club outside of Athens/Thessaloniki to win a Championship) and it seems their worst days are behind them (they dropped to 3rd divison). They are back with a punch now, I wish them all the best. :okay:
pompeyfan March 26th, 2006, 12:44 AM I like the 2nd one more
a retractable roof for a 21,000 seater?
and soccer is meant to be played in any weather condition
hell, soccer games aren't cancelled due to snow
Just last night the match between Portsmouth and Arsenal was postponed due to poor weather. If it had a retractable roof the match could proceed.
Kampflamm March 26th, 2006, 12:46 AM Retractable Rooves are necessary for rain, snow, and other weather phenomena
http://groups.msn.com/stadiumsoftheworld/
What's your link supposed to show me?
I think Larissa probably has good weather. I'd hate to be in an enclosed space like that (even when the roof is open).
ael March 26th, 2006, 03:35 AM and you're right mate...there's no reason constructing a dome for 3 months of bad weather(from march till november,the temperatures are between 15-45C)
pompeyfan March 26th, 2006, 05:20 AM 21000 is not many...
still, a picture would be nice.
Would someone please be kind enough to tell me how to add a picture???
pompeyfan March 26th, 2006, 05:22 AM What's your link supposed to show me?
I think Larissa probably has good weather. I'd hate to be in an enclosed space like that (even when the roof is open).
Why don't you check it out before posting??? It has a section dedicated to retractable rooves on stadia
Kampflamm March 26th, 2006, 12:34 PM From that site:
"Retractable rooves serve a very important purpose: To allow sunlight in and rain out. These stadiums are able to open the roof up, which allows sunlight to keep the grass to keep a realistic surface, which a fully closed roof cannot do. Alternatively, the roof is able to be closed, which means that rain, hail or shine the match can proceed, which an open-aired stadium cannot do.
A good example of a reason to have a retractable roof over a conventional open-air stadium would be the 2004 Chappell-Hadlee cricket series between rival nations Australia and New Zealand. When the series was tied 1-1 with one match remaining, the whole region received a lot of rain, and the match was rained out. Since a retractable roofed stadium could have a closed roof, the match could have proceeded.
Alternatively, fully closed roofed stadiums do not allow light into the stadium, the pitch is not well nourished due to lack of sunlight. A retractable roofed stadium could open the roof, and allow several hours of sunlight a day, which would keep the pitch in the best possible condition for play."
I still don't see why a place like Larissa would need a retractable roof. Maybe somebody has some data on how many games were rained out in that city.
cphdude March 26th, 2006, 02:39 PM Just last night the match between Portsmouth and Arsenal was postponed due to poor weather. If it had a retractable roof the match could proceed.
right. And in the danish leage, todays game between copenhagen and fcn was just canceled due to snow...so it still happens....
MetroStar March 26th, 2006, 03:12 PM The retractable roof in Larisaa would by useful only for concert all around the year as Larissa's president Kostas Piladakis has said.You can't organise a concert in January only by hoping not to rain and screw it.
But they finally decided only to organise concerts at summer.
Giorgio March 26th, 2006, 03:17 PM From that site:
"Retractable rooves serve a very important purpose: To allow sunlight in and rain out. These stadiums are able to open the roof up, which allows sunlight to keep the grass to keep a realistic surface, which a fully closed roof cannot do. Alternatively, the roof is able to be closed, which means that rain, hail or shine the match can proceed, which an open-aired stadium cannot do.
A good example of a reason to have a retractable roof over a conventional open-air stadium would be the 2004 Chappell-Hadlee cricket series between rival nations Australia and New Zealand. When the series was tied 1-1 with one match remaining, the whole region received a lot of rain, and the match was rained out. Since a retractable roofed stadium could have a closed roof, the match could have proceeded.
Alternatively, fully closed roofed stadiums do not allow light into the stadium, the pitch is not well nourished due to lack of sunlight. A retractable roofed stadium could open the roof, and allow several hours of sunlight a day, which would keep the pitch in the best possible condition for play."
I still don't see why a place like Larissa would need a retractable roof. Maybe somebody has some data on how many games were rained out in that city.
It was a luxury. Why was a roof built on Telstra dome? I know that it would have been ok even without a retractable roof.
MetroStar March 26th, 2006, 08:57 PM A new 60,000 seats Stadium will be built in Thessaloniki,Greece fot FC PAOK Salonica the team which has knocked out many famous teams in Europe such as Arsenal,which have beaten Flying Dutchman's Barcelona 1-0 and which has reached Cup Winners Cup quarter Finals.
It will be an UEFA 5 Star Stadium disigned by American Archtects.It will feature a retractrable roof,60 suites,10 cinemas,a convention centre able to host 4000 people,an underground parking for 10000 cars,a shopping center as large a 100000 square metres,10 cafes,30 restaurants and unique design which will be revealed soon. :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
www.sercan.de March 26th, 2006, 09:00 PM pics?
and does they need it?
MetroStar March 26th, 2006, 09:04 PM Of course they need it.PAOK is the second most popular team in Greece and have many many fans in Northen Greece(mainly in Macedonia but in Thace and Thessalia as well) and in the neigbouring countries such as Skopje,Bulgaria,Albania etc.Not to mention that it will be also used by the NFL Europe team whicjh will settle in Thessaloniki in 2009 and by many other clubs.It will be also a Premium Entertainment center in Balkans.
Quintana March 26th, 2006, 09:07 PM :weirdo:
MetroStar March 26th, 2006, 09:07 PM The new Stadium will be ready by 2010
www.sercan.de March 26th, 2006, 09:07 PM mmmh
average 2005/2006
3.766
http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/current/avegre.htm
th0m March 26th, 2006, 09:09 PM TYPING IN BIG BOLD FONTS IS ABOUT AS ANNOYING AS TYPING WITH YOUR CAPS LOCK ON. OH WAIT, MY BAD, YOU DID USE CAPS LOCK, FOR THE FREAKING TOPIC TITLE. DOUBLE ANNOYANCE!!!!!!!!!!!
FOR THE REST, GREAT NEWS, NOW SHOW US SOME PICS!!!!!!
MetroStar March 26th, 2006, 09:10 PM This happened because many games were without people as a punishment due to violence.In good matches PAOK had a average of 28000 (packed stadium)Fans were also dissapointed becouse the club has financial problems and a bad team.But soon a new business man will buy PAOK.Everything is almost confirmed
www.sercan.de March 26th, 2006, 09:11 PM pics or renderings?
MetroStar March 26th, 2006, 09:11 PM Not yet (they haven't be revealed yet) but as soon as they will be revealed am gonna post them.
Quintana March 26th, 2006, 09:15 PM AIGALEO HAS RECEIVED PERMISSION FOR A 3-TIER 85.000 SEATER STADIUM INCLUDING 100 SUITES, 3000 SEAT VIP-SECTION AND WITH A RETRECTABLE ROOF. IT WILL BE READY FOR THE START OF THE 2008/2009 SEASON.
MetroStar March 26th, 2006, 09:17 PM Hey man u think it's funny?Stop flooding and telling lies to the people and find a right topic to write your bullshit.
www.sercan.de March 26th, 2006, 09:21 PM http://www.paokfc.gr/index.jsp?extLang=
?????????
cannot understand it :D
Quintana March 26th, 2006, 09:22 PM :hahaha:
MetroStar March 26th, 2006, 09:34 PM Don't hurry man from turkey.I ll keep u informed about this huge project.
alexandros1984 March 26th, 2006, 09:36 PM idiot
hngcm March 26th, 2006, 09:47 PM This happened because many games were without people as a punishment due to violence.In good matches PAOK had a average of 28000 (packed stadium)Fans were also dissapointed becouse the club has financial problems and a bad team.But soon a new business man will buy PAOK.Everything is almost confirmed
60,000 would still be overkill
Quintana March 26th, 2006, 09:49 PM Some people are actually taking this serious :D
MetroStar must be laughing his ass off right now :hahaha:
ael March 26th, 2006, 09:59 PM bullshit...nothing is going on.PAOK doesn't even have money to pay the players...the truth is that they have a huge fanbase but what metrostar is saying are total crap...you know mate,maybe you can fool the members that know nothing about greek football,but there are also a lot of greeks participating SSC...please guys,ignore him!
ps:you should know that every post about any new construction should be backed with a url...
:weirdo:
MetroStar March 26th, 2006, 10:03 PM Hey those guys really don;t know anything.They may be fans of other teams such as vlach larisa fans or else.We will soon sewe who is right
MetroStar March 26th, 2006, 10:17 PM don't worry my friends
ael March 26th, 2006, 10:21 PM spell it right lad...in english is LariSSa.only in greek there's only one 's'...you missed an 'o' also...it should be vlachO Larisa...anyway,if you believe you're right,we're still waiting for a reference...oh,I forgot!there is no evidence for b/s...
ποντιε... :lol:
antigr12 March 26th, 2006, 10:24 PM A new 60,000 seats Stadium will be built in Thessaloniki,Greece fot FC PAOK Salonica the team which has knocked out many famous teams in Europe such as Arsenal,which have beaten Flying Dutchman's Barcelona 1-0 and which has reached Cup Winners Cup quarter Finals.
It will be an UEFA 5 Star Stadium disigned by American Archtects.It will feature a retractrable roof,60 suites,10 cinemas,a convention centre able to host 4000 people,an underground parking for 10000 cars,a shopping center as large a 100000 square metres,10 cafes,30 restaurants and unique design which will be revealed soon. :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
could you go elsewhere to bullshit please ?
MetroStar March 26th, 2006, 10:26 PM don't worry my friends
Zorba March 26th, 2006, 10:30 PM Stop trolling MetroStar!
1. PAOK would never build a 60,000 seat stadium
2. They wont have any kind of new stadium for a long time
3. NFL Europe is not coming to Thessaloniki
4. You should be banned!
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spell it right lad...in english is LariSSa.only in greek there's only one 's'...you missed an 'o' also...it should be vlachO Larisa...anyway,if you believe you're right,we're still waiting for a reference...oh,I forgot!there is no evidence for b/s...
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Unread Today, 11:24 PM #23
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A new 60,000 seats Stadium will be built in Thessaloniki,Greece fot FC PAOK Salonica the team which has knocked out many famous teams in Europe such as Arsenal,which have beaten Flying Dutchman's Barcelona 1-0 and which has reached Cup Winners Cup quarter Finals.
It will be an UEFA 5 Star Stadium disigned by American Archtects.It will feature a retractrable roof,60 suites,10 cinemas,a convention centre able to host 4000 people,an underground parking for 10000 cars,a shopping center as large a 100000 square metres,10 cafes,30 restaurants and unique design which will be revealed soon.
could you go elsewhere to bullshit please ?
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60,000 NEW STADIUM FOR FC PAOK SALONICA
don't worry my friends
pompeyfan March 27th, 2006, 12:48 AM ']It was a luxury. Why was a roof built on Telstra dome? I know that it would have been ok even without a retractable roof.
It still is very important. Its more important for a sport like cricket, but soccer has had a benefit from a retractable roofed stadium.
Kampflamm March 27th, 2006, 01:43 AM You have to weigh the costs with the benefits though. Here in Germany games are hardly ever rained out. The only games that were cancelled due to snow this year were mainly cancelled because of road conditions around the stadium and not because of snow on the pitch.
Zorba March 27th, 2006, 02:35 AM @Kampflamm: As Christos pointed out on the first page, Larissa is in Central Greece and experiances very extreme weather at times. Whether ir be heavy rain, extreme cold, snow or wind. For that reason Larissa might need a retractable roof.
The_Hoops March 27th, 2006, 02:59 AM I like the 2nd one more
a retractable roof for a 21,000 seater?
and soccer is meant to be played in any weather condition
hell, soccer games aren't cancelled due to snow
You can't play football if the pitch is water logged or deep in snow!! The ball hardly moves when you kick it!!
The_Hoops March 27th, 2006, 03:05 AM Would someone please be kind enough to tell me how to add a picture???
This is a URL of a picture, for example -
http://www.sausagemaking.org/acatalog/Haggis.jpg
You then take that URL add put it in between and , so you end up with -
[img]http://www.sausagemaking.org/acatalog/Haggis.jpg[/imgg]
I have put two g's in at the end, as if I didn't then you would see a picture and not my above example. Only use one g in real life.
If you have a pic on your PC and want to show it, you have to host it first. You can do this at http://imageshack.us/
On imageshack, click browse and then pick the picture on your PC you want to host, then click 'open' and then 'host it'. Once you host the pic, click the small version of the pic that you see on the imageshack website and then you will see a bigger version. Right click the bigger pic, choose 'properties' and you will see the URL you need to use. The website might also just tell you the URL once you host your pic. Good luck.
pompeyfan March 27th, 2006, 07:47 AM You can't play football if the pitch is water logged or deep in snow!! The ball hardly moves when you kick it!!
You're right, but it sure is fun!!!
pompeyfan March 28th, 2006, 03:41 AM it's horrid
Maccabi March 29th, 2006, 07:03 PM This stadium is extremely ugly men!Too bad for a new stadium.It reminds me of Bloomfield here in Tel-Aviv!
pompeyfan March 30th, 2006, 01:26 AM they really should have gone with the first one with the roof
Giorgio March 30th, 2006, 08:10 AM they really should have gone with the first one with the roof
Have you even read this thread?
How could they afford it without government funding??!?!
Geez.
pompeyfan March 30th, 2006, 08:30 AM ']Have you even read this thread?
How could they afford it without government funding??!?!
Geez.
Yes, i have read this thread and i am the one who created it.
Secondly, there are many companies out there who were more than willing to provide the funding for the stadium that was needed, although they decided to go with the second rendering.
Hope that helps you
Maccabi March 30th, 2006, 08:41 PM Lol.We have beaten PAOK easily two years ago in football.And inumerable times in basketball.
Zorba March 30th, 2006, 09:19 PM Whats your point?
I doubt Maccabi could beat one of the better Greek soccer teams.
Maccabi March 30th, 2006, 09:22 PM I mean how can i team which is even worse than us in football(in which we really suck) built a 60000 stadium???
Zorba March 30th, 2006, 09:39 PM I mean how can i team which is even worse than us in football(in which we really suck) built a 60000 stadium???
They aen't building a new stadium. MetroStar(the person who made this thread) is an idiot who is spammig the forums creating threads for no reason.
Maccabi March 30th, 2006, 09:54 PM OK then.
matherto March 31st, 2006, 12:07 AM will someone delete this thread, this is all bullshit and pointless
pompeyfan March 31st, 2006, 03:29 AM one being the financing corp who owns the ComBank
pompeyfan March 31st, 2006, 03:30 AM one being the financing corp who owns the ComBank
And they also could have raised the extra money by selling the naming rights.
pompeyfan March 31st, 2006, 03:31 AM so yeah, reading the thread might have been a good idea?
Giorgio March 31st, 2006, 07:44 AM Why would they? They wouldnt care about the stadiums design so they wouldnt fund it more.
Durbsboi March 31st, 2006, 10:40 AM What a dumb thread!
pompeyfan April 1st, 2006, 02:09 AM because it gets their names out there
pompeyfan April 4th, 2006, 03:05 AM which is the whole reason companies buy the naming rights to stadiums in the first place
Giorgio April 4th, 2006, 02:25 PM We are talking about double the price.
pompeyfan April 5th, 2006, 02:24 AM yeah
pompeyfan April 5th, 2006, 02:27 AM the first design was only $41 million
pompeyfan April 5th, 2006, 02:28 AM http://www.stadiumguide.com/larissa.htm
ReddAlert April 5th, 2006, 02:44 AM isnt this the city where Achilles was from?
pompeyfan April 5th, 2006, 02:58 AM isnt this the city where Achilles was from?
Sorry, i only studied Roman Mythology at school
pompeyfan April 5th, 2006, 03:01 AM the first design was only $41 million
which is cheap
pompeyfan April 5th, 2006, 08:43 AM some houses cost half that
Giorgio April 5th, 2006, 09:26 AM It was cheap but there were no investors god damn it! :bash:
The one now is HALF the price!
pompeyfan April 5th, 2006, 09:32 AM ']It was cheap but there were no investors god damn it! :bash:
The one now is HALF the price!
Combank were going to fund it god damn it. Maybe it is you who should be reading the thread.
ael April 5th, 2006, 10:00 AM isnt this the city where Achilles was from?
yeah :cheers:
pompeyfan April 5th, 2006, 10:12 AM yeah :cheers:
a little history!!!
ael April 5th, 2006, 11:07 AM sorry mate,i don't know where to look at...anyway,Achilles was born near Farsala,a small town near Larissa and he was the King of the Mirmidones.There is nothing more to be mentioned about that,as for the rest of the history,if you don't know it,just have a look at wikipedia or google it :) it's a long story and i believe that Homer narrated it better than me... :)
now let's get back to the topic :)
Maccabi April 10th, 2006, 04:13 PM Do you know about this event?Have you seen any pics from last years event?The best in the world
www.acropolisrally.gr
Maccabi April 10th, 2006, 04:17 PM http://www.acropolisrally.gr/common/includes/show_image_media.php?image_id=315&type=photo&this=
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It was the first time a WRC race was held in a stadium and..the best.Some tried to imitate it(Great britain).But it is trully the best.
Maccabi April 10th, 2006, 04:23 PM Not to mention that it was anounced ''RALLY OF THE YEAR'' after 5 consecutive rally of finland wins.
BobDaBuilder April 10th, 2006, 04:24 PM ^^^^^^^
When they move the Aussie Rally from Perth to Melbourne, they will be able to do the same thing in the Telstra Dome. It would be superb. Perth just never did justice to the Rally.
victory April 10th, 2006, 04:26 PM When they move the Aussie Rally from Perth to Melbourne, they will be able to do the same thing in the Telstra Dome. It would be superb. Perth just never did justice to the Rally.
When will the rally first be staged in Melbourne?
This city just gets better and better.
BobDaBuilder April 10th, 2006, 04:40 PM ^^^^^^^^^
Only rumours. Personally I cannot see anywhere else in Australia making a proper go of it. Sydney is just not practicle, Brisbane is just too small population wise(think Queensland 500 back to Sandown 500), Canberra even more so.
Melbourne is surrounded by LOADS of rally roads, forests, hills and has motor racing fans coming out of its arse. They are mad having it anywhere else.
victory April 10th, 2006, 04:43 PM Canberra would put on a good rally i reckon, but the money is just not there in the bush capital.
Maccabi April 10th, 2006, 06:57 PM Hey let's get back to the topic which ACROPOLIS RALLY OF GREECE.
victory April 11th, 2006, 09:18 AM Hey let's get back to the topic which ACROPOLIS RALLY OF GREECE.
Okay. I must say I dont like the stadium. But with Rally cars in it the place does look great.
Durbsboi April 11th, 2006, 10:13 AM Thats freeken awesome! I hope they do the same here in Durban , we getting the "Zulu Rally"
matherto April 11th, 2006, 10:15 PM It's not like a super special hasn't been hosted in a stadium before *cough* Millenium Stadium *cough*
Paulo2004 April 12th, 2006, 03:30 AM Wonderful thought, I mean it's awesome to be able to see a rally inside a stadium.
NMBS1 April 12th, 2006, 07:16 AM Where and when possible, they should have more rallies with a stage in a stadium, it's truly great for the fans
Durbsboi April 12th, 2006, 01:42 PM It's not like a super special hasn't been hosted in a stadium before *cough* Millenium Stadium *cough*
Picture pleez
.B. April 17th, 2006, 06:39 PM It is a unique stadium.It shares its roof with a track and field stadium located near it.
Outdoors and yet covered, the Stadium Square offers the best of both worlds, for large-scale activities of any kind. Located between the football stadium and the track and field stadium, this vast space provides maximum flexibility, as it can be furnished and equipped, decorated or divided as required for each event. Providing ample space for activities, catering and live Dj events - with or without paid entrance facilities - the Stadium square lends itself to :
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Full-scale parties, christenings or weddings
* Concerts
* Exhibitions
* Fun fair and bazzars
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A hotel will be also built.
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There is also a conference center.The detached GSP Conference Centre is a purpose-built area adjacent to the car park. This modern assembly room with complete climate control is fully equipped with a central sound system and the latest multimedia equipment for video or digital presentations
Ideal for conferences, seminars and similar meetings, it can accomodate up to 200 persons seated theatre style on chairs with table arm, or up to 100 persns seated classroom style
VIP Lounge
Used separetly or in combination, the lounge, bar and restaurant on the first floor of the stadium create a multi-purpose, versalite area that can be allocated as required, depending on the number of guests, the occasion and the programme of any given event. On its own, the spacious lounge and bar area overlloking the football pitch can comfortably accomodate dinner parties for up to 300 guests, coctail receptions or exhibitions. For larger events, this area leads and can be combined with the restaraunt which can seat an additional 120 quests.
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It reminds me of Dragao. :)
.B. April 17th, 2006, 06:42 PM http://www.gsp.org.cy/Picture%20Menu%20Football%20Events%20en.html
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eddyk April 17th, 2006, 07:15 PM Oh, I've actually been there.
Well, I walked by it.
The one thing I noticed was the roof.
Looks bigger than 23,000 I might add.
When out and about round europe I always look for stadiums, even on the plane journey there I'm watching the ground trying to find stadiums and guess which ones they are.
.B. April 17th, 2006, 09:07 PM Nice.I do it as well.You know i am an amateur helicopter pilot and like recognising stadiums and other buildings while i am up up and away. :)
Mo Rush April 17th, 2006, 10:03 PM weird
matherto April 21st, 2006, 10:03 PM http://www.rally.gr/..%5Cdata%5Cphoto%5C20952.jpg
Citystyle April 21st, 2006, 10:30 PM ^^^^^^^^^
Only rumours. Personally I cannot see anywhere else in Australia making a proper go of it. Sydney is just not practicle, Brisbane is just too small population wise(think Queensland 500 back to Sandown 500), Canberra even more so.
Melbourne is surrounded by LOADS of rally roads, forests, hills and has motor racing fans coming out of its arse. They are mad having it anywhere else.
Dont be angry if it spew.
'Mad to put it anywere else". :puke:
Typical Crap.
Rally Australia is trying to keep it in the nation and has said every capital os possible. But even then they could loose it.
Giorgio April 22nd, 2006, 02:36 AM Great job Maccabi.
I love this event! :okay:
Landos April 22nd, 2006, 08:25 AM How much usage is Athens getting out of their Olympic venues these days? Do they keep them busy with events like this? It'd be nice to hear that all that investment was still paying off!
pompeyfan April 22nd, 2006, 01:28 PM nice
Giorgio April 22nd, 2006, 02:08 PM I love it!
matherto April 23rd, 2006, 06:43 AM How much usage is Athens getting out of their Olympic venues these days? Do they keep them busy with events like this? It'd be nice to hear that all that investment was still paying off!
AEK Athens have been playing in the Olympic Stadium haven't they?
other than that, the lack of usage of the rest of the venues shows how crap the planning for the games was
Landos April 23rd, 2006, 07:37 AM You going to offer up some facts to show the venues are not being used or are we to take it as matter of absolute truth since you presented it in such an eloquent fashion? :)
Giorgio April 23rd, 2006, 03:15 PM AEK Athens have been playing in the Olympic Stadium haven't they?
other than that, the lack of usage of the rest of the venues shows how crap the planning for the games was
Panathinaikos uses the Indoor Hall and AEK and PAO Use the Main stadium for soccer matches.
Don't be such an ignorant fool.
Drogba April 24th, 2006, 02:06 AM FIA Wants it.
Ecclestone wants it.
We want it fora long long time.
We just can't decide where excactly to place it.
More info from the Greek guys soon.
Rapid April 24th, 2006, 02:08 AM Cool, I agree. It'll be great. Especially cool if its near one of Greece's fantastic beaches.
Drogba April 24th, 2006, 02:12 AM They are planning it for a long long time.They serious plans are 3.
Patras
They will build the multi-use circuit near the sea.Next to it a huge area woth hotes and other recreation facilities will be located(golf courses,theme parks etc)
Orhomenos
Pretty much the same but without the beach
Helliniko
It will be built in a n urban area near a merina and inside a huge park (the largest in Europe).There will also be a water park and sea races.
I hope they do the best for the sport and for Greece.
Giorgio April 24th, 2006, 06:11 AM I dont know, It would be nice in Athens but Id like it in Patra too.
schmidt April 24th, 2006, 06:49 AM And who would lose its GP?
CrazyCanuck April 24th, 2006, 06:58 AM Greece would make for a nice track, maybe the US could lose it's GP.
NothingBetterToDo April 24th, 2006, 06:59 AM would be cool to have an street track in Athens....the parthenon as a backdrop would be stunning.
the WRC has a track in athens does it not??....the acropolis rally???
Giorgio April 24th, 2006, 07:34 AM would be cool to have an street track in Athens....the parthenon as a backdrop would be stunning.
the WRC has a track in athens does it not??....the acropolis rally???
I always sayed an Athens st track would be superb.
No, the acropolis rally actually has NOTHING to do with the acropolis lol. It takes place in rural athens (apart from the leg inside OAKA)
Schmidt, I remember reading an article about how much FIA wants the F1 In Greece and they are willing to remove San Marino or one of the German races.
pompeyfan April 24th, 2006, 08:36 AM they are already certainly bringing back Mexico and Africa, so they already will have 21. Is it feasible to add another GP to Europe? Maybe drop San Marino?
victory April 24th, 2006, 08:37 AM Greece would make for a nice track, maybe the US could lose it's GP.
The US won't lose its GP, especially to a small nation like Greece (and especially when europe is already full of races).
It's all about the $$$
Giorgio April 24th, 2006, 09:09 AM The US won't lose its GP, especially to a small nation like Greece (and especially when europe is already full of races).
It's all about the $$$
Then tell me why the F1 is itching for Greece to build a track and start the race?
The only thing in the way is the Greek government who isnt as supportive of the idea.
And anyway, San Marino is most likely to lose its GP.
NavyBlue April 24th, 2006, 09:29 AM And who would lose its GP?
Good question . . . As it stands now there are way too many races in Europe and so if Greece is to get one, then it should be a direct replacement of an existing European race.
Durbsboi April 24th, 2006, 10:06 AM ']And anyway, San Marino is most likely to lose its GP.
No way in hell is Imola goin down, Ferrari will never allow it.
Giorgio April 24th, 2006, 10:23 AM No way in hell is Imola goin down, Ferrari will never allow it.
According to Bernie in an old article, it will.
NavyBlue it will indeed replace another race.
Ill try find the old article.
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