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Deanb May 31st, 2008, 06:58 PM guys,
what are, in your opinion, the world's gay-friendliest cities/places? by region, country, continent etc.
If I may list a few, I definitely view Manhattan as one, and also Berlin & San Fran...
Tama May 31st, 2008, 07:02 PM Sydney, Tel Aviv, San Fransico, Toronto and Amsterdam.
Deanb May 31st, 2008, 07:04 PM I forgot to mention AMSTERDAM of course! :)
Patrick May 31st, 2008, 07:29 PM The gay prides in Köln (Cologne/Germany) are even bigger than in Berlin. They also hosted Europe's biggest so far (in 2002). Also the next Gay Games will be in Köln. The city's nickname is "the german capital of the gays".
How about São Paulo?
Rumors May 31st, 2008, 07:30 PM Montreal.
ZOHAR May 31st, 2008, 07:32 PM I would say:
Amsterdam
Cologne
Copenhagen
S.Francisco
Toronto
Tel Aviv
Sydney
Onur May 31st, 2008, 07:39 PM In Turkey, Eskişehir.
Occit May 31st, 2008, 07:48 PM In South America i would say:
- Sao Paulo
- Buenos Aires
- Santiago
- Rio de Janeiro
- Caracas
- Bogota
- Valencia
Deanb May 31st, 2008, 07:54 PM all of those?! like is it really common to find in all of them gay events etc.? I guess Rio is the friendliest?
Occit May 31st, 2008, 07:56 PM all of those?! like is it really common to find in all of them gay events etc.? I guess Rio is the friendliest?
Rio, Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires are the most gay friendly in the list.
DiggerD21 May 31st, 2008, 08:00 PM In Germany:
Cologne
Berlin - Mayor is openly gay and leader of the social democrats
Hamburg - Mayor is openly gay and leader of the christian democratic union (conservatives)
_UberGerard_ May 31st, 2008, 08:01 PM here mexico city
Deanb May 31st, 2008, 08:07 PM one of the members of Tel Aviv city council is also openly gay and supports the community when it comes to events, a newly opened community centre etc.
Deanb May 31st, 2008, 08:10 PM Montreal.
how gay friendly is it really? i'm curious :)
ZOHAR May 31st, 2008, 08:12 PM Rio, Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires are the most gay friendly in the list.
my friend is immigrated from Brasil and he said Sao Paulo is very gay friendly city but Rio is very conservative,is it true?
Jay May 31st, 2008, 08:13 PM They most definitely would have to be...
Kingston, Jamaica
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Tehran, Iran
Baghdad, Iraq
Lagos, Nigeria
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Cairo, Egypt
Moscow, Russia
:D
No but really, generally anywhere in western Europe, Parts of the USA, Canada, Thailand (For some strange reason) and other places.
ZOHAR May 31st, 2008, 08:16 PM one of the members of Tel Aviv city council is also openly gay and supports the community when it comes to events, a newly opened community centre etc.
in next elections maybe we'll have 3;)
Itay Pinkas (Avoda)
Eran Lev (Meretz)
Hagai Eyad (Hair shelanu)
Tubeman May 31st, 2008, 08:36 PM Depends what you mean by 'Gay friendly'
London has arguably the largest and most diverse Gay scene in the world, but I don't consider it very 'Gay friendly' insofar PDAs between same-sex couples would provoke abuse or worse in all but one or two streets in Soho.
It's 'Gay friendly' because there's such a huge scene on your doorstep, but the wider culture is in many cases quite homophobic.
Places I'd consider truly 'Gay friendly' are places where you can walk down any street hand in hand with your partner without fear of getting your head stoved in, and these are very few and far between. Maybe Provincetown, Key West, areas of San Francisco (even then only a few streets), Brighton (England) and?...
ZOHAR May 31st, 2008, 08:46 PM ^^agree with u
in Tel Aviv u can walk freely in 90% of the city (I would say except some parts of Jaffa and Tikva neighbourhood)
elbart089 May 31st, 2008, 08:55 PM Mexico City is quite gay-friendly, there are parades, gay unions, etc.
FREKI May 31st, 2008, 09:21 PM Not being gay I'm not really the one to say, but Nordic cities like Copenhagen and Stockholm seems very gay friendly to me..
Copenhagen have yearly gay pride parades and carnivals, plenty of gay bars and will be hosting the 2009 World Outgames..
We were also the first nation to allow gay marriage and decriminalized homosexuality as some, if not the first, in 1930..
About Tubeman's "hand in hand" test I doubt anyone would say anything downtown or on any major street, but in the sidestreets and public housing areas in the residential districts with high muslim populations I wouldn't be surprised if a few punks spoke out a bit - same goes for drunk Danes in more rural areas..
Hatecrimes however is almost non existing, so if anything a few words or some giggling would probable be the worst case scenario..
Occit May 31st, 2008, 09:30 PM my friend is immigrated from Brasil and he said Sao Paulo is very gay friendly city but Rio is very conservative,is it true?
Tha last Gay Parade in Sao Paulo had about 3,5 millions of people! the biggest ever in the world according to the news. Rio for me is very gayfriendly, specially in carnival dates.
Here in Caracas, gay scene is very intense too, because Venezuelan culture used to be very promiscuous xD
LMCA1990 May 31st, 2008, 09:40 PM My city (Cali, Colombia) is very gay-friendly... All of Colombia is really; we have gay unions and soon gay marriage :cheer:
Imperfect Ending May 31st, 2008, 10:11 PM West Hollywood
http://www.keymediapublicrelations.com/images/west_hollywood_logo_ljlg.jpg
Mahratta May 31st, 2008, 10:56 PM Toronto
Rumors May 31st, 2008, 11:41 PM how gay friendly is it really? i'm curious :)
Thats what I hear. :gossip: :shifty:
dhuwman May 31st, 2008, 11:46 PM Well, I would've definitely added Seattle to the list, but these days, Seattle just doesn't live up to my expectation.
I think Bangkok goes up pretty high up in the list.
MrColombia May 31st, 2008, 11:49 PM Pereira,Colombia is gay friendly as well.....
http://z.about.com/d/gosouthamerica/1/0/K/Y/mcolomb.gif
m4rcin May 31st, 2008, 11:51 PM Barcelona
-Corey- June 1st, 2008, 12:43 AM San Francisco, Budapest, Buenos Aires and Seattle.
ZOHAR June 1st, 2008, 01:49 AM Budapest?
really?
monkeyronin June 1st, 2008, 03:47 AM Most of East Asia seems quite gay-friendly, albeit not in the same sense as Europe or North/South America.
But generally, pretty much all of Western Europe, Canada, Coastal United States, and Latin America are very open to homosexuality. And what about South Africa? As the world's 5th country to have same-sex marriages, I'd assume it to also be gay-friendly?
Jay June 1st, 2008, 04:07 AM South African whites, yes. Blacks? Oh no
Hia-leah JDM June 1st, 2008, 05:00 AM Miami Beach!
Somnifor June 1st, 2008, 05:09 AM Minneapolis.
Deanb June 1st, 2008, 05:50 AM Well, I would've definitely added Seattle to the list, but these days, Seattle just doesn't live up to my expectation.
what do u mean?
Xelebes June 1st, 2008, 05:58 AM Alberta: Edmonton
Canadian Prairies: Edmonton or Winnipeg
Western Canada: Vancouver
Canada: Montreal or Toronto, no idea.
Beyond that? No clue.
Nikkodemo June 1st, 2008, 06:24 AM They most definitely would have to be...
Kingston, Jamaica
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Tehran, Iran
Baghdad, Iraq
Lagos, Nigeria
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Cairo, Egypt
Moscow, Russia
:D
Yeah, specially those cities....
karim aboussir June 1st, 2008, 09:09 AM marrakech morocco is very gay friendly city but fez no no way not at all total opposite
dhuwman June 1st, 2008, 10:34 AM what do u mean?
Well Seattle is quite gay-friendly comparatively speaking, but from my point of view, it's not quit gay-friendly enough. No city in the US is gay-friendly in senses that I find them gay-friendly. I mean gay-marriage isn't even legal.
ZOHAR June 1st, 2008, 11:57 AM marrakech morocco is very gay friendly city but fez no no way not at all total opposite
the same with Tel Aviv-Jerusalem
Lydon June 1st, 2008, 12:11 PM Cape Town, South Africa. It's nickname is the gay capital of Africa. Gay marriage is legal, there are frequent parades, parties, clubs etc. There are loads of gay people too! =D
Deanb June 1st, 2008, 06:07 PM Well Seattle is quite gay-friendly comparatively speaking, but from my point of view, it's not quit gay-friendly enough. No city in the US is gay-friendly in senses that I find them gay-friendly. I mean gay-marriage isn't even legal.
but it's not all about gay marriage, but also about the atmosphere, and about how common it is to find gays in the area, to see gay couples etc.
Deanb June 1st, 2008, 06:08 PM Cape Town, South Africa. It's nickname is the gay capital of Africa. Gay marriage is legal, there are frequent parades, parties, clubs etc. There are loads of gay people too! =D
god! I bet they're incredibly hot!
karim aboussir June 1st, 2008, 09:16 PM although gay marriages are illegal in morocco some gay people do have gay weddings in marrakech and the police make no big deal about it there. sometimes they may say that it is wrong but most of the time let it go
marrakech has olot of gay moroccans and foreigners marrakech is a very open minded city great place for everyone
Taller, Better June 1st, 2008, 09:34 PM one of the members of Tel Aviv city council is also openly gay and supports the community when it comes to events, a newly opened community centre etc.
Is he the one who came over to Toronto a few years back to marry his partner? They were a very good looking couple! :):cheers:
Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are very gay friendly. I hold hands with my b/f
just about anywhere downtown now, and no one pays any attention anymore.
After the controversy of allowing gay marriage, most of society got over the novelty and have completely accepted it all. People do get used to different things eventually! :)
AltinD June 1st, 2008, 09:50 PM god! I bet they're incredibly hot!
:ohno:
Taller, Better June 1st, 2008, 09:53 PM I'd say the country that has lead the world in gay rights in the past decade or so is
the Netherlands. The country that got it all going was the USA back in the 60's.
edubejar June 1st, 2008, 10:14 PM Berlin and Paris both currently have openly gay mayors (and both declared their homosexuality before running), and both cities have very active LGBT activism and gay life. Paris' openly gay mayor is eyeing the presidency of the Socialist Party which would make him a runner for France's presidency.
San Francisco and Amsterdam both have very pro-gay mayors. Not hard to believe. Amsterdam's 2007/08 Gay Map has a section where the mayor personally welcomes gays to his city. :)
Sean in New Orleans June 1st, 2008, 10:31 PM I don't know if you would call New Orleans gay friendly. It's a more of who cares attitude here. There are well over 100,000 gay individuals in the City of New Orleans, but, the attitude here is "You're gay? Oh OK." In fact, it isn't really something that is even discussed or considered. Nobody cares either way what you are here. Just live life and be real and you'll do just fine in New Orleans.
Luko Madrid June 1st, 2008, 10:48 PM Madrid is not only the capital city for spanish gays and lesbians, it is also the capital for gays all around the hispanic -iberoamerican world.
Many migrate to Madrid where they feel more confortable than in their countries.
Madrid has a gay quarter, Chueca, that was once a declining old part of the city, but the gays recover it and now is a fancy mix of old and new, with a lot of fashion shops and an incredible nigthlife.
raggedy13 June 1st, 2008, 10:50 PM Vancouver is quite gay-friendly. Not sure how it ranks on an international scale but gay people can walk around town holding hands without any problems, there's the annual Pride Week/Pride Festival which involves the Pride Parade (the largest annual parade in the city), we have a gay district (Davie Village), gay nightclubs, and of course legalized gay marriage.
I think Vancouver has got a gay travel award or two as well. Can't quite seem to find any related articles or anything though so don't quote me on that.
Anyways, I think most if not all of Canada's major cities are entirely gay-friendly with similar characteristics to what I mentioned above for Vancouver.
ZOHAR June 1st, 2008, 10:56 PM Is he the one who came over to Toronto a few years back to marry his partner? They were a very good looking couple! :):
:yes:
edubejar June 1st, 2008, 11:54 PM Madrid is not only the capital city for spanish gays and lesbians, it is also the capital for gays all around the hispanic -iberoamerican world.
Many migrate to Madrid where they feel more confortable than in their countries.
Madrid has a gay quarter, Chueca, that was once a declining old part of the city, but the gays recover it and now is a fancy mix of old and new, with a lot of fashion shops and an incredible nigthlife.
Barcelona also seems to attract many gay Latin Americans. However, I prefer Madrid, even if it's far from water. I think Barcelona is only a hot spot in the warm months, especially the summer. I thought only Sitges would be affected by the cold months but apparently it also affects Barcelona.
xavi83 June 2nd, 2008, 12:03 AM What about madrid?barcelona?Ibiza?
In Mexico, i thing guadalajara and Puerto Vallarta is most gay-friendly than MExico city
isaidso June 2nd, 2008, 09:08 AM Any large city in Canada will be very gay friendly. Not only is it a non-issue, animosity towards gay people is not culturally acceptable behaviour in Canada. Gay people are protected as equals under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms in the same way as women, the disabled, all ethnicities, and religious groups.
Equality here isn't a lot of hot air, it is a reality. Marriage is equal for all. Rights are equal for all. Respect and tolerance for all. Canada wouldn't work if it wasn't so, and Canadians know it. The entire country is diverse and that diversity is our strength.
We'll be having another Gay Pride attendance of 1 million + here in Toronto. We'd love to have you all come visit. Gay Pride is very much what Canada is all about. Diversity.
magikn00b June 2nd, 2008, 10:03 AM Cape Town, South Africa :)
Also my city Port Elizabeth has very accepting ppl for this situation, alot of gay ppl here and no trouble from any one.
philadweller June 2nd, 2008, 03:50 PM In the world.....Madrid, Barcelona, Paris, London, Berlin, Koln, Amsterdam, Sydney, Sao Paulo.
In Canada...Montreal, Toronto, London, Calgary & Vancouver.
In the US....Manhattan, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Washington DC, Boston, Chicago, Seattle, Los Angeles, Fort Lauderdale (the mayor is a homophobe though), Atlanta, New Orleans, Austin, & Minneapolis.
Rome is the least gay friendly city that I have visited.
edubejar June 2nd, 2008, 04:02 PM Any large city in Canada will be very gay friendly. Not only is it a non-issue, animosity towards gay people is not culturally acceptable behaviour in Canada. Gay people are protected as equals under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms in the same way as women, the disabled, all ethnicities, and religious groups.
Equality here isn't a lot of hot air, it is a reality. Marriage is equal for all. Rights are equal for all. Respect and tolerance for all. Canada wouldn't work if it wasn't so, and Canadians know it. The entire country is diverse and that diversity is our strength.
We'll be having another Gay Pride attendance of 1 million + here in Toronto. We'd love to have you all come visit. Gay Pride is very much what Canada is all about. Diversity.
Canada rules! My big respects to that country. You are very fortunate. My experience there in this subject has always been very good.
Taller, Better June 2nd, 2008, 04:48 PM Come visit during Pride! Last week of June every year! My friend from England comes almost every year for it.
:dance:
xlchris June 2nd, 2008, 04:52 PM Amsterdam is by far the best! Because you can also marry here as a gay! :cheers:
HirakataShi June 2nd, 2008, 05:00 PM South African whites, yes. Blacks? Oh no
Wrong stereotype. :ohno:
It is an modern/urban versus township & rural split.
Pavlemadrid June 2nd, 2008, 05:16 PM And Madrid...?
We have a very important gay neighborhood, we live in one of the most modern countries (Spain), the gay people can be marriage. You can see gay people in the streets.
Most populous cities with homosexual marriages:
Los Angeles: 17,700.000
Madrid: 6,300.000
Toronto: 6,100.000
Johannesburg: 6,000.000
ZOHAR June 2nd, 2008, 07:05 PM Rome is the least gay friendly city that I have visited.
why?
ZOHAR June 2nd, 2008, 07:08 PM You can see gay people in the streets.
:rofl:
DiggerD21 June 2nd, 2008, 07:54 PM Madrid: 6,300.000
Hyperinflating numbers here?
Your number is even higher than the number given for the "Comunidad de Madrid" (6 million) of which the "area metropolitana de Madrid" (4,5 million) is one part, while the municipality of Madrid (3,1 million) is one part of the metropolitan area.
To my understanding the city (in sense of urban area) of Madrid ends at its metropolitan area. The rest is just province surrounding Madrid.
Or maybe I should give higher population numbers for many german cities using the rough numbers of their metropolregions:
Hamburg: ca. 4 million
Frankfurt: ca. 6 million
Stuttgart: ca. 3 million
:lol:
friedemann June 2nd, 2008, 08:09 PM Colorado Springs :lol:
what about Las Vegas?
trainrover June 2nd, 2008, 08:37 PM how gay friendly is it really? i'm curious :)
Montreal's been gay-friendly ever since the mid-1980s when I used to head downtown wearing my hot quasi-dress and Jesus boots without ever being jeered at . . .
Pavlemadrid June 2nd, 2008, 09:40 PM Hyperinflating numbers here?
Your number is even higher than the number given for the "Comunidad de Madrid" (6 million) of which the "area metropolitana de Madrid" (4,5 million) is one part, while the municipality of Madrid (3,1 million) is one part of the metropolitan area.
Whaaaat??
Madrid 4,500.000???? :lol::lol::lol:
The Madrid metropolitan area have, today: 6,000.000-6,500.000 (differents numbers). Why you speaf if you don't know anything of Madrid metropolitan area?
=O I'm surprised... =O
philadweller June 2nd, 2008, 10:26 PM Rome is not gay friendly because of the Vatican presence. The scene is underground.
Many gays are closeted and living with their mommies or with a wife.
Try finding a gay bar there. There are there but no signs.
Deanb June 2nd, 2008, 10:41 PM but Italians r some of the hottest!
AltinD June 2nd, 2008, 11:02 PM ^^ This thread is not about who's hot and who's not, so cut it off. Second time I'm warning you ...
philadweller June 2nd, 2008, 11:07 PM "but Italians r some of the hottest!"
i disagree.
ZOHAR June 2nd, 2008, 11:12 PM Rome is not gay friendly because of the Vatican presence. The scene is underground.
Many gays are closeted and living with their mommies or with a wife.
Try finding a gay bar there. There are there but no signs.
in Tel Aviv we dont put gay flags in the clubs also.....
alex3000 June 2nd, 2008, 11:15 PM In the US:
- San Francisco, NYC, and LA.
In Mexico:
- Puerto Vallarta, Mexico City, and Guadalajara.
In Argentina:
- Buenos Aires.
-Corey- June 2nd, 2008, 11:37 PM And Madrid...?
We have a very important gay neighborhood, we live in one of the most modern countries (Spain), the gay people can be marriage. You can see gay people in the streets.
Most populous cities with homosexual marriages:
Los Angeles: 17,700.000
Madrid: 6,300.000
Toronto: 6,100.000
Johannesburg: 6,000.000
You forgot to mention San Francisco with over 8 million and San Diego with almost 3 million ;)
edubejar June 3rd, 2008, 12:25 AM in Tel Aviv we dont put gay flags in the clubs also.....
I don't think he was only referring to a gay flag. Sometimes there isn't even a sign...just a door.
In some cities, gay clubs are very discreet, with a signless door that has to be rung. Inside, the doorkeeper often has a camera to see who is at the door. In some places where a camera hasn't been installed, an opening sometimes with a sliding cover opens :lol: These kind of protective barrier is seen less and less. Those that remain are probably not necessary but for some reason the owners may see it as necessary.
In any case, the flag helps let gays, especially from outside of the city, know it's a gay establishment. Today with the internet, one can go to some guide online and get the address but before the flag was very helpful. OMG, I'm giving away my age. :lol: Actually, I'm not anywhere as old as I'm sounding.
edubejar June 3rd, 2008, 12:31 AM Rome is not gay friendly because of the Vatican presence. The scene is underground.
Many gays are closeted and living with their mommies or with a wife.
Try finding a gay bar there. There are there but no signs.
I've heard not so positive comments about Rome's gay scene, even from Romans visiting Barcelona. However, I've also heard rather negative comments from cities I've found to be great in this respect so I prefer to experience it myself with atleast 2 vs just one visit.
ZOHAR June 3rd, 2008, 12:41 AM I don't think he was only referring to a gay flag. Sometimes there isn't even a sign...just a door.
In some cities, gay clubs are very discreet, with a signless door that has to be rung. Inside, the doorkeeper often has a camera to see who is at the door. In some places where a camera hasn't been installed, an opening sometimes with a sliding cover opens :lol: These kind of protective barrier is seen less and less. Those that remain are probably not necessary but for some reason the owners may see it as necessary.
In any case, the flag helps let gays, especially from outside of the city, know it's a gay establishment. Today with the internet, one can go to some guide online and get the address but before the flag was very helpful. OMG, I'm giving away my age. :lol: Actually, I'm not anywhere as old as I'm sounding.
lol u sound like 50 y.old:D
nah in Israel u have selectors in entrance and they say if u can enter or not...20-40% in gay clubs in Israel are straights
monkeyronin June 3rd, 2008, 01:10 AM You forgot to mention San Francisco with over 8 million and San Diego with almost 3 million ;)
San Francisco = 4.2 million, and San Diego is much further down the list, so to mention that would involve mentioning Boston, Barcelona, Montreal, and Cape Town before it.
edubejar June 3rd, 2008, 01:27 AM lol u sound like 50 y.old:D
nah in Israel u have selectors in entrance and they say if u can enter or not...20-40% in gay clubs in Israel are straights
I'm only a few years over HALF of that :)
BTW, it sounds like you're talking about nightclubs. Bars usually do not have "selectors".
medpaisa19 June 3rd, 2008, 01:34 AM I find Colombian major cities very gay-friendly Bogota for example has the chapinero neighborhood, which has hundreds of bars, clubs, organizations, etc. And when you walk the streets you can see same-sex couples holding hands and stuff. And in Medellin you have gay and straight bars right next to each others and there is no problem. Also, Colombia was the first Latin American country as a whole, to recognize and give legal rights to same-sex couples.
I would say that the "western" countries in general. Europe, America (North and South) and maybe parts of Asia and south Africa.
Sao Paolo
Rio
Buenos Aires
Bogota
Mexico city
Caracas and many more Latin American cities have great gay-friendly atmosphere
Urbanight June 3rd, 2008, 05:40 AM Chicago has to go on the list - we have rainbow phalluses lining the streets.
city_thing June 3rd, 2008, 06:14 AM As Freki said earlier, Copenhagen or Stockholm are probably the most gay-friendly places. The Scandinavians do something which people from many other nations can't: think. They're so progressive and forward thinking, being gay there is a non-issue. People from the Nordic nations are light years ahead of much of the world in terms of human rights. I wish the entire world was populated by Danes, everything would be so civilised (and well designed!)
I'm surprised Sydney hasn't been mentioned more often. It's Mardi Gras is very famous, and numerous suburbs are classified as "gay districts". Darlinghurts, Surry Hills, Paddington and Newtown are the most obvious epicenters of the scene, but it's a very tolerant and diverse city. It's where the Australian gay rights movement began with protests on Oxford st, and the area is still the most famous 'gay road' in the nation.
Australia's first gay pride in 1973: (many people were arrested and charged)
http://www.takver.com/history/sydney/gay_pride19730909-3.jpg
http://www.takver.com/history/sydney/gay_pride1973.htm
For a city of 4.3m, to have a mardi gras that brings over a million people onto the streets equates to Sydney being very gay.
future.architect June 3rd, 2008, 06:32 AM manchester in the uk is very gay friendly
blackpool, brighton and london are the other big gay cities
ssiguy2 June 3rd, 2008, 07:55 AM Except for Bangkok, note that no Asian cities have been listed.
djm19 June 3rd, 2008, 09:23 AM I dont know how gay friendly los angeles is...probably very much compared to most U.S. cities. West Hollywood is smack in the middle of LA, which is very gay friendly. And there are lots of gay people in L.A. But there are also a lot of very catholic immigrants who aren't always so accepting.
isoboy June 3rd, 2008, 09:35 AM New York
San Francisco
Sydney
Bangkok
London
Amsterdam
Paris
Berlin
Manchester
Cape Town...
-Corey- June 3rd, 2008, 09:57 AM San Francisco = 4.2 million, and San Diego is much further down the list, so to mention that would involve mentioning Boston, Barcelona, Montreal, and Cape Town before it.
Nope, as of July 2006, the Bay Area is home to 7.2 million people ^^ http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/bayarea.htm
future.architect June 3rd, 2008, 10:07 AM manchester in the uk is very gay friendly
i forgot to mention, the UK edition of Queer as folk (the oringinal version) was set in manchester. the origins of manchesters gay village can be traced back to the late 1800's
Maxim98 June 3rd, 2008, 10:09 AM Well Seattle is quite gay-friendly comparatively speaking, but from my point of view, it's not quit gay-friendly enough. No city in the US is gay-friendly in senses that I find them gay-friendly. I mean gay-marriage isn't even legal.
Well, we can run off and get married in about three weeks in (arguably) NA's most gay friendly city, San Francisco.
Living in the Bay Area and having gone not only to Pride, but spent quite a bit of time just being, well, gay with friends/significant others in public, I can say that the reception here is unmistakably warm. Not just in the Castro - almost the entirety of the city is pretty accepting. I can name a handful of neighborhoods I wouldn't go out of my way to do PDAs after dark, but otherwise....
javi itzhak June 3rd, 2008, 10:20 AM Amsterdam, Barcelona, San Francisco, Tel Aviv, London and Toronto...
alex3000 June 3rd, 2008, 12:08 PM I dont know how gay friendly los angeles is...probably very much compared to most U.S. cities. West Hollywood is smack in the middle of LA, which is very gay friendly. And there are lots of gay people in L.A. But there are also a lot of very catholic immigrants who aren't always so accepting.
As conservative as those immigrants might, all of the LA metro area is pretty gay friendly.
It's not just about West Hollywood, pretty much all of the west side is gay friendly. You see a lot of same-sex couples on the street and there are also a lot of gay bars and clubs spread all over the metro area, not just West Hollywood or the "west side."
ChinaboyUSA June 3rd, 2008, 12:52 PM I would say not specifically in order, here are my top 10:
NYC
Sydney
San Francisco
Toronto
Bangkok
Amsterdam
Pattaya
Fort Lauderdale
Shanghai
Paris
Among them, NYC and Bangkok are my most favorite,
Check it out, Bangkok:
jDgK5G9Gpew
Which one is The most Gay-friendly city in Africa and South America?
eklips June 3rd, 2008, 12:52 PM As Freki said earlier, Copenhagen or Stockholm are probably the most gay-friendly places. The Scandinavians do something which people from many other nations can't: think. They're so progressive and forward thinking, being gay there is a non-issue. People from the Nordic nations are light years ahead of much of the world in terms of human rights. I wish the entire world was populated by Danes, everything would be so civilised (and well designed!)
Up until 75 Sweden practiced eugenics on the "mentally ill", today Denmark is getting more xenophobic by the day and it has been warned by amnesty for police brutality and mistreatment of some prisoners. And both Norway, Denmark and Finland (carbon dioxide emissions) are amongst the world's first polluters per capita. And let's not start with the various support to US led mass crimes, with the invasion of Irak being the most recent and obvious examples.
Scandinavian countries are certainly not supperiors, and scandinavian people just like the rest of us have to be very carefull of what is done in their name and what goes on in their countries.
Augusto June 3rd, 2008, 01:03 PM They most definitely would have to be...
Kingston, Jamaica
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Tehran, Iran
Baghdad, Iraq
Lagos, Nigeria
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Cairo, Egypt
Moscow, Russia
:D
No but really, generally anywhere in western Europe, Parts of the USA, Canada, Thailand (For some strange reason) and other places.
Why do you mentioned Kuala Lumpur in this "black list"? It's definitly not the worse place to be gay in the world. There are openly gay bars and clubs. KL is not more conservative than Singapore about the gay business.
Anyway, it does not deserve to be listed with Kingston and Rhiyad..
ChinaboyUSA June 3rd, 2008, 01:05 PM Scandinavian Gay just love Bangkok!
Skyline_FFM June 3rd, 2008, 01:33 PM The gay prides in Köln (Cologne/Germany) are even bigger than in Berlin. They also hosted Europe's biggest so far (in 2002). Also the next Gay Games will be in Köln. The city's nickname is "the german capital of the gays".
How about São Paulo?
I would not mention Sao Paulo or Buenos Aires, which are somewhat tolerant (with Sao Paulo having a gay pride parade) but I surely would not recommend to gay people going there hand in hand...
But I would say: Berlin, Cologne, Ibiza, San Francisco, Vermont, Toronto, Amsterdam, Hamburg, Zürich, Sydney, Tel Aviv...
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2899/worldhomosexualitylawssu3.png
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3586/statehomophobia3xc8.jpg
Pavlemadrid June 3rd, 2008, 03:18 PM You forgot to mention San Francisco with over 8 million and San Diego with almost 3 million ;)
I only say the cities with more than 6,000.000
San Francisco have 8,000.000 in the Bay Area, but is really the SF Metorpolitan Area? (I can put, but I don't think it). SF have 4,500.000 in MA.
Vini2 June 3rd, 2008, 04:01 PM my friend is immigrated from Brasil and he said Sao Paulo is very gay friendly city but Rio is very conservative,is it true?
No!
Rio is not conservative!
We have a gay beach in Ipanema called Farme de Amoedo, there's a lot of tourists there.
Our gay parade is the 2nd biggest in Brazil and I think the 2nd biggest in South America, just behind São Paulo :)
And in the Carnival Rio is too much liberal!
the spliff fairy June 3rd, 2008, 04:23 PM Time Out has claimed in this year's edition that London is the new worlds 'gay capital', with more bars and venues than NYC and Sydney combined (as of last year). In the past it maintained Sydney pipping San Fransisco or vice versa with that title. Before, although London did well for gay men it wasnt that great for gay women, though thats very changed now.
That however is just a claim I've no idea can be verified as Ive never counted nor been to ALL the venues in question (and neither did they put any numbers up in their review). Time Out is also originating from London and is based in London/NYC and may be (newly) biased, though its writers and reviewers are from round the world.
Even if it is all hyperbole, London is still a big destination, with a gay bar/pub every few streets, even in the suburbs, of which many youd never notice were even gay (for years), without going in. There are 3 gay villages in the centre where its crammed- Earls Court (older generation pubs) , Soho (bars till 4am), and Vauxhall (24 hr clubs). Gay venues are spreading out of Soho towards Tottenham Court Road- Oxford St, Chinatown and Fitzrovia, whilst East End nightlife districts of Hoxton and Whitechapel are also having a start-up. On the coast, just outside London is Brighton one of the 'gayest' places in the world (1/5 of the population are said to be gay) and home to the original dirty weekend.
The Soho Pride festival attracts 250,000, The Brighton Pride 150,000 and the London Pride 1 million. But the best thing is the choice, you can choose from the quiet coffee to the all night, all morning, all afternoon clubs, tea dances to sex n fetish to belly dancing, from Chinese bars to Greek bars to Brazilian bars to Turkish bars, football nights to dress-as-a-chav clubs, bingo to bowling to cinemas to burlesque. London is definitely in the top 3 imo.
sterlinglush June 3rd, 2008, 04:26 PM I guess it depends on what your criterion for gay-friendliness is. In the US, it's more of an urban/suburban/rural distinction than anything else. The cities can be quite progressive, but the suburbs and rural areas still tend to be populated by the brain-dead. San Francisco, New York, Los Angeles, Seattle, Atlanta, New Orleans, Boston, Chicago, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Dallas, Portland (Oregon), Sacramento, Denver, San Diego, Washington, Austin, Raleigh and Durham, Charleston (South Carolina), and Philadelphia are all quite gay-friendly in terms of social acceptance, legal protection, and so on. There's still a good bit of discrimination on the federal level (marriage, immigration rights, and other relationship-recognition matters) but in daily life, these cities all have substantial gay populations and a lot to offer.
In Asia:
Bangkok: The obvious #1 choice for reasons that don't need much explaining. There's not much government protection but in terms of openness and tolerance and overall fun, it's hard to beat. I'd also put Phuket, Pattaya, and Chiang Mai on the list. In fact, apart from the Muslim south of the country, almost any major city will be fairly welcoming.
Taipei: This is the most underrated city in Asia by almost any measure. I love it. The Taiwanese government is probably the most progressive in Asia at the moment with regard to LGBT civil rights, and Taipei is the nexus of that. There's a large and very out gay scene, a gay district of sorts centered around Ximen, lots to do, etc etc. If I weren't moving to Hong Kong soon I'd have given a lot of thought to going to Taipei after Korea.
Singapore: It's wall-to-wall gay men. I am serious. The government's not as hostile as it used to be. It's not great, of course, and there's a fair amount of residual conservatism, but there is a vast and fairly open gay scene. Many young men from Malaysia, Indonesia, and other countries in the region migrate to Singapore for that reason. It's not exactly the San Francisco of Asia by today's standards, but it's San Francisco as it was about 20 years ago.
Hong Kong: Soon to be home. The scene isn't very large but it also isn't very small. Nor is it hidden. Lots to do unless your only perspective on being gay is going to a different club each night (HK's gay nightlife isn't thrilling), fairly progressive in its way, nice place. Did I mention liking it a lot? I just stuck my work visa to a blank page on my passport. :)
Tokyo: Huge. Big gay scene in Shinjuku. I don't know that much about Japanese gay culture but it's a pretty tolerant society in many respects, at least in the sense that some things are Not Discussed. Fukuoka and Sapporo also warrant mention. No idea about other cities.
Kuala Lumpur: I'm not sure why this was mentioned on a blacklist. Malaysia's government isn't gay-friendly but it is warming up a bit. It by no means warrants inclusion in any list that mentions Saudi Arabia and Iran. KL is a fun city. I've been there several times and I like it a lot. Large gay community, lots to do, especially around Bukit Bintang and Bangsar.
Seoul: Korea is not ideal for gay people and expats, to be honest. I have lived near Seoul for 3 years and can't wait to leave (in 3 weeks). Most of my gay Korean friends would leave if they could, too. To be fair, though, things are changing. There is a vast gay community in Seoul, and two gay(ish) districts. The cultural assumption that there are no gay people in Korea provides a pristine layer of invisibility not available elsewhere, so you can practically bone your boyfriend on the sidewalk and no one will think anything of it. It's also a very touchy, homosocial culture, so the men hang all over each other. (The public bathhouses are visually spectacular for this reason.) The result, paradoxically, is that you're safer here than you would be in many places. As a place to visit, it's well worth checking out, but I'd never recommend living here.
Obviously Asia can't compete on civil rights, visibility, and other factors with Scandinavia, Canada, Western Europe, New Zealand, and South Africa. However, there are some quality-of-life things available here that are hard to find elsewhere. It really depends on your priorities. I'm not the holding hands sort, and neither is my bf, but we've never been concerned about our safety. I've been more worried in Korea as a white American than as a gay man. (I've been out at work almost as long as I've been here, btw.) If you're concerned about legal recognition of your relationship, then for the most part you're better off outside of Asia, but it still does have a lot to offer.
the spliff fairy June 3rd, 2008, 04:58 PM ^What a thought out post. Its easy to pass off intolerance in Asia as on the same terms as elsewhere, or that the whole society is such from the echelons of the progressive West. The one thing about E and SE Asia, even if people do not agree, you'll never get verbally abused let alone a fight or the target of hate crime, whereas that isnt always the same in the West, even gay friendly meccas.
There are some things you can get away with in the East that isnt the same elsewhere. For example the legality of male prostitution in Japan (and dont even start on Thailand). Walk into certain places, classy by all accounts - then you get the 'menu', with photos of each 'dish' like catalogue models. Similarly the gay strip bar, sauna and massage parlour is blatantly flouted and tolerated in the new China.
Skyline_FFM June 3rd, 2008, 05:39 PM No!
Rio is not conservative!
We have a gay beach in Ipanema called Farme de Amoedo, there's a lot of tourists there.
Our gay parade is the 2nd biggest in Brazil and I think the 2nd biggest in South America, just behind São Paulo :)
And in the Carnival Rio is too much liberal!
Rio is even more gay-friendly than Sao Paulo...
Vini2 June 3rd, 2008, 06:15 PM Rio is even more gay-friendly than Sao Paulo...
Rio has the advantage of being a touristic city that attracts many gays especially at carnival but in my opinion São Paulo is equally gay-friendly.
Vini2 June 3rd, 2008, 06:16 PM Rio is even more gay-friendly than Sao Paulo...
Rio has the advantage of being a touristic city that attracts many gays but São Paulo is equally gay-friendly.
Mscraper89 June 3rd, 2008, 06:20 PM I would say Amsterdam. But in fact every town in Holland is gay-friendly. It's a small country; 85% is pro gay-marriage, so this kinda means that almost every citizen fully respects gays.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1421/1027751000_90fdaac392.jpg?v=0
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1094/1026893137_c287ee4d25.jpg?v=0
But I think Barcelona and London are also verry gay-friendly. As a gay person I prefer London, I felt so happy there! ooh and don't forget Stockholm ;)
Holland was the first country in the world to have Gay marriage, and one of the firtst countries with legal rights. Luckely Spain was verry brave to follow us! It's so funny to see Nort-America is sooooo far more behind South-America. Though Los Angeles and San Francisco are verry liberal, The US will always have those awful Republicans and Evangelicals. I'm happy that all parties in my country support me, and my rights. :)
ZOHAR June 3rd, 2008, 07:41 PM I'm only a few years over HALF of that :)
BTW, it sounds like you're talking about nightclubs. Bars usually do not have "selectors".
ure right
Pavlemadrid June 3rd, 2008, 07:46 PM But I think Barcelona and London are also verry gay-friendly.
Why Barcelona? Madrid have a more important gay neighborhood tahn BCN... One of the most importants in the world... Chueca.
Occit June 3rd, 2008, 08:01 PM I would not mention Sao Paulo or Buenos Aires, which are somewhat tolerant (with Sao Paulo having a gay pride parade) but I surely would not recommend to gay people going there hand in hand...
But I would say: Berlin, Cologne, Ibiza, San Francisco, Vermont, Toronto, Amsterdam, Hamburg, Zürich, Sydney, Tel Aviv...
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2899/worldhomosexualitylawssu3.png
THAT IMAGE IS WRONG!...LATINAMERICA IS CHANGING!!!: :bash:
NOW IS LIKE THIS:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/World_homosexuality_laws.svg/800px-World_homosexuality_laws.svg.png
Skyline_FFM June 3rd, 2008, 08:39 PM At first there is no need to :bash:! Second: What a big difference,.... :lol:
Deanb June 3rd, 2008, 09:15 PM ^^ This thread is not about who's hot and who's not, so cut it off. Second time I'm warning you ...
sorry but when was the 1st time?
u got something personal against me? it's not the 1st time u don't like what i'm saying...
monkeyronin June 3rd, 2008, 09:50 PM Nope, as of July 2006, the Bay Area is home to 7.2 million people ^^ http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/bayarea.htm
Thats the Bay Area, not San Francisco [MSA]. An entirely different entity and not comparable with Los Angeles MSA, Comunidad de Madrid, Greater Toronto, and Greater Johannesburg.
Hed_Kandi June 3rd, 2008, 10:15 PM The BEST City for Gays is KINGSTON, JAMAICA !!!
I recommend anyone who is gay or bisexual to come enjoy the excitement of this city!!!
zazo June 3rd, 2008, 10:18 PM of course in MADRID, in the country of freedom, Spain, u can do whatever u want, speak about everything being a normal thing!
Occit June 3rd, 2008, 10:43 PM I would not mention Sao Paulo or Buenos Aires, which are somewhat tolerant (with Sao Paulo having a gay pride parade) but I surely would not recommend to gay people going there hand in hand...
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3586/statehomophobia3xc8.jpg
In Latinamerica, homosexuality is legal, the last country to accept it was nicaragua, now, is legal there. The caribbean angloamerican countries are other history in this case... :ohno:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/World_homosexuality_laws.svg/800px-World_homosexuality_laws.svg.png
edubejar June 4th, 2008, 12:54 AM The BEST City for Gays is KINGSTON, JAMAICA !!!
I recommend anyone who is gay or bisexual to come enjoy the excitement of this city!!!
Is this a joke or are you being serious? I've have recently read about 5 times that Jamaica (including and especially Kingston) is very homophobic. I have come across an article that warned gays to take precaution when vacationing there since the whole beach-life ambiance can be misleading in thinking people are just "hahpy, mahn". I've also come across warnings in travelling anywhere in the Caribbean in general, including St. Marteens/St-Martin and the Cayman Islands, despite these last ones being French, Dutch and British overseas territories or the like. However, as far as I can remember, only one incident per island was mentioned in each article I read but comments posted on those articles expressed general homophobia that exist in those places. But of course, I leave plenty of room for doubt as I don't believe everything I read--it just leads me to do more research.
edubejar June 4th, 2008, 01:15 AM Why Barcelona? Madrid have a more important gay neighborhood tahn BCN... One of the most importants in the world... Chueca.
I agree. In any case, Madrid's seems bigger than Barcelona's.
My problem with Barcelona is that for the 2nd time it didn't seem as great as people (from everywhere, especially Northern Europe) make it out to be. Maybe that's what can happen when a place is rated so high...it is most likely to disappoint. But then I tell myself that maybe I'm just not seeing it. Then I learned that a lot of gay people who love it in Barcelona had been during the summer or so while I've been both times in the winter. Apparently Sitges becomes big with gay tourists in the summer so it also adds considerably to Barcelona's scene or vice-versa. Maybe it should be specified that Barcelona's gay scene is great IN THE SUMMER or WARMER MONTHS. But I don't know.
In any case, for a city and metro area the size of Barcelona (which is considerably smaller than other major cities mentioned here), I admit it has a gay scene that EXCEEDS those of cities and metro areas of similar size.
However, I find Paris' gay scene bigger and more diversified but maybe because Paris' gay scene is hardly hyped-up or bragged-about so it's less likely to dissappoint, plus maybe it's an unfair comparison since Paris as a metro area is about 3.5x the size of Barcelona. I'm sure if Barcelona was as big as Paris I would find it gayer, but that's not the case. I'm sure the sun is a big plus, especially for sun-seeking Northern Europeans. Also, there is a tendency to find Spaniards much more friendly than the French, yet French gays are much, much nicer to me than Spanish ones...weird, eh?
jodelli June 4th, 2008, 01:49 AM I remember for the first time seeing openly flamboyant gay people on Toronto's Yonge St almost thirty years ago. As the three of them passed by, me not in ridicule but in wonder smiling like a rube thinking 'I'm not in Kansas anymore'. This seemed like such a cool city.
Dinivan June 4th, 2008, 01:54 AM Barcelona is very gay-friendly too, one of the best cities to be a gay in my opinion. Specially this August :lol: there's going to be two week-long festivals with macroparties all over the city one of which is the most important in Europe and the Euro gay games by end July :)
blueget June 4th, 2008, 03:01 AM Toronto
djm19 June 4th, 2008, 03:39 AM As conservative as those immigrants might, all of the LA metro area is pretty gay friendly.
It's not just about West Hollywood, pretty much all of the west side is gay friendly. You see a lot of same-sex couples on the street and there are also a lot of gay bars and clubs spread all over the metro area, not just West Hollywood or the "west side."
Yeah, LA also has an openly gay city council member.
monkeyronin June 4th, 2008, 04:47 AM It's so funny to see Nort-America is sooooo far more behind South-America.
If that is the case, then why is Same-sex marriage legal in Canada, California, and Massachusetts, with civil unions in New Jersey, Vermont, Maine, Connecticut, Mexico City, and Coahuila in North America, while in South America there are only Same-sex unions in Colombia, French Guyana, and a few states of Argentina and Brazil?
Ian June 4th, 2008, 05:51 AM Argentina this year will have same sex marriage for the whole country, and besides comparing the laws in different countries is not always a good measure... There are a lot of cases where the laws are advances but the society is still ultra-conservative :bash: and viceversa of course... :okay:
:cheers:
Looking/Up June 4th, 2008, 05:52 AM I think that there is more to a city being "gay-friendly" than the size of its' gay village. What I notice about Toronto is that, although there is quite a large gay village, public displays of affection between homosexuals and confidence in displaying one's sexuality is common throughout the city and suburbs; gay men and women aren't confined to displaying their sexuality solely within certain neighbourhoods. I think it's this sort of freedom that shows more of the true 'friendliness' of certain cities.
Of other cities I've been to, London and New York City come off as being very open as well.
Lost Cosmonaut June 4th, 2008, 06:25 AM São Paulo gay pride parade
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4125/254350313485c5ef1efcbbr7.jpg
Skyline_FFM June 4th, 2008, 11:25 AM Is this a joke or are you being serious? I've have recently read about 5 times that Jamaica (including and especially Kingston) is very homophobic. I have come across an article that warned gays to take precaution when vacationing there since the whole beach-life ambiance can be misleading in thinking people are just "hahpy, mahn". I've also come across warnings in travelling anywhere in the Caribbean in general, including St. Marteens/St-Martin and the Cayman Islands, despite these last ones being French, Dutch and British overseas territories or the like. However, as far as I can remember, only one incident per island was mentioned in each article I read but comments posted on those articles expressed general homophobia that exist in those places. But of course, I leave plenty of room for doubt as I don't believe everything I read--it just leads me to do more research.
You may go to prison until 15 years in Jamaica!
Skyline_FFM June 4th, 2008, 01:17 PM In Latinamerica, homosexuality is legal, the last country to accept it was nicaragua, now, is legal there. The caribbean angloamerican countries are other history in this case... :ohno:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/World_homosexuality_laws.svg/800px-World_homosexuality_laws.svg.png
Maybe Nicaragua now accepts it as legal, but the population will need another decade or two to accept it as well!
lindow June 4th, 2008, 08:46 PM There was not homophobia traditionally in Japan.
Gay-friendly cities is Japan and Thailand in Asia.
http://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/003/642/10/N000/000/000/takemiya2.jpg
http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B000F5FT38.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/book/cabinet/7781/77810386.jpg
lindow June 4th, 2008, 08:54 PM Buddhism and the Shinto are tolerant to homosexuality.
Shinjuku of Tokyo is famous as a gay town.
Doyama of Osaka is famous, too.
Ueno and Asakusa are gay towns, too.
Lesbian & Gay parade in Tokyo
http://sawasho.com/blog/archives/images/tlgp.jpg
http://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/004/245/38/1/%25A5%25D6%25A5%25ED%25A5%25B0%25CD%25D1%25A3%25B1%25A3%25B1.jpg
http://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/004/245/38/1/%25A5%25D6%25A5%25ED%25A5%25B0%25CD%25D1%25A3%25B8.jpg
Thermo June 4th, 2008, 09:21 PM Any large city in Canada will be very gay friendly. Not only is it a non-issue, animosity towards gay people is not culturally acceptable behaviour in Canada. Gay people are protected as equals under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms in the same way as women, the disabled, all ethnicities, and religious groups.
Same for Belgium. :) We were the second country in the world to legalize gay-marriage and now our laws are even more liberal than in the Netherlands (concerning gay adoption for example).
Our 'gay capital' is Antwerp.
philadweller June 4th, 2008, 10:03 PM http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2899/worldhomosexualitylawssu3.png
Poor South Africa. Africa is a hot mess when it comes to equal rights. What a scary world. That whole belt from Africa to the Middle East to India to Malaysia is like a another planet when it comes to human rights. Is it Islam, is it lack of education? You can't blame this one on the US.
Jamaica is a disgrace. We need to send Richard Simmons there.
Lydon June 4th, 2008, 10:12 PM Why poor South Africa? =/
Hia-leah JDM June 4th, 2008, 11:14 PM ^^ Cause its surrounding neighbors?
philadweller June 4th, 2008, 11:43 PM "Cause its surrounding neighbors?"
Exactly! This map says a lot about social patterns in the world.
ZOHAR June 4th, 2008, 11:49 PM lol the same with Israel
poor Israel and S.Africa;)
Obidos June 5th, 2008, 12:19 AM Amsterdam is by far the best! Because you can also marry here as a gay! :cheers:
You can also in any city in Spain... :yes:
thryve June 5th, 2008, 12:21 AM Toronto is pretty damn accepting.
edubejar June 5th, 2008, 12:31 AM São Paulo gay pride parade
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4125/254350313485c5ef1efcbbr7.jpg
This is one amazingly-sized parade and it's certainly indicative of gay acceptance (to a certain degree, as with any other gay prides). However, it should be taken into account that Sao Paulo and it's metro area have huge population figures. That plays a factor in how big its gay prides are. Isn't there like a certain percentage (roughly) of people born gay in a given place. Well, SP + metro area will yield a huge gay pride.
skyboi June 5th, 2008, 12:40 AM Montreal's been gay-friendly ever since the mid-1980s when I used to head downtown wearing my hot quasi-dress and Jesus boots without ever being jeered at . . .
And it's even more today , just yesterday I saw a guy walking in Montreal downtown bare chest with a seventy's short jeans wearing his hair and beard dyed in seven colors , no body seems to care what he's up to any more :lol: That's Montreal baby bois
Joy Machine June 5th, 2008, 01:14 AM If that is the case, then why is Same-sex marriage legal in Canada, California, and Massachusetts, with civil unions in New Jersey, Vermont, Maine, Connecticut, Mexico City, and Coahuila in North America, while in South America there are only Same-sex unions in Colombia, French Guyana, and a few states of Argentina and Brazil?
California isn't set in stone yet. Actually they already have a ballot set up to be voted down in November called "preserve marriage" that of course is funded and headed by a preacher or some religious figure...:ohno: But also on that not, the gay and lesbian alliance are setting up a bunch of yes voters to counter act this.
Lor86MI June 5th, 2008, 01:58 AM Italy is not so gay-friendly, but I think that the most gay friendly city is Milan in Italy
Amsterdam, Madrid, London, Paris, Berlin are more gay friendly than my city.
karim aboussir June 5th, 2008, 02:04 AM death penalty in some countries that is wrong god loves everyone I am not gay but I respect people's lifestyle what people do is their business
yes you can get death penality in morocco for being gay however the 2 exceptions are marrakech , tanger morocco very open in these 2 cities and safe for the most part for gay people in the 2 cities in fez if u are gay U get the death penalty that is is wrong
city_thing June 5th, 2008, 03:40 AM http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2899/worldhomosexualitylawssu3.png
Poor South Africa. Africa is a hot mess when it comes to equal rights. What a scary world. That whole belt from Africa to the Middle East to India to Malaysia is like a another planet when it comes to human rights. Is it Islam, is it lack of education? You can't blame this one on the US.
Jamaica is a disgrace. We need to send Richard Simmons there.
Roflmao.
I doubt Richard Simmons would last two seconds there.
Jamaica has to be one of the more 'openly hostile' countries out there. Many governments turn a blind eye, but Jamaica seems intent on murdering anyone that's gay. There's a lot of cases of people gaining political asylum in other nations, because they gay and can't return to Jamaica. It's amazing that such attitudes still exist, and the great divide between us here in the developed West and those in the Middle East, Africa, South Asia and the Caribbean.
Meanwhile, I read this story on the Pinkpaper.co.uk the other day. It makes me feel sick in my stomach.
£46 to go back to your death
BY Darren Scott
A gay teenager seeking refuge in Scotland has been offered £46 by officials to return to Syria.
JoJo Jako Jacob, 19, fled his homeland in 2006 after abuse from Syrian police and prison guards. Arrested for distributing anti-government leaflets, Jacob was then beaten into a coma when guards discovered he was homosexual.
After being held at Polmont Young Offenders institution in Falkirk for the past year, Jacob is currently on bail and living with a supporter in Edinburgh, while he awaits a final verdict from judges.
Campaigners have criticised the Home Office after it was revealed they offered him £46 to go back to his home country.
A spokesman for the Save JoJo Campaign said the agency offered him £46 “in cash” on leaving the United Kingdom “to assist in reintegrating into your home country. This could be used for example to set up a business, further your education or assist with housing”.
Human rights activist Peter Tatchell said: “This insulting offer shows the scurrilous, immoral nature of the UK Border Agency. The sum of £46 would barely pay one week’s rent, never mind help JoJo start a new life.
“The idea that he should risk everything and go back to Syria is an absolute disgrace. It shows the depth to which the Labour government is sinking in its desperate bid to pander to racist and xenophobic opinion.”
The Scottish National Party’s Westminster home affairs spokesman Pete Wishart MP said: “There is a very real risk that he would suffer further ill treatment or even possibly death. He has sought asylum in Scotland and I will make an immediate representation to the Home Office in an effort to overturn their ruling.”
British government officials recently accused Jacob of lying about both his sexuality and treatment in Syria, before tribunal judges finally accepted that he is gay.
Supporters of his plight are asked to visit the Save JoJo website for more information at savejojo.net.
JayT June 5th, 2008, 06:42 AM Sydney has always been Australia's gay mecca. But this is changing.
There is nowhere like my home state of Queensland and is full of gay men an women moving north:D
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Lor86MI June 5th, 2008, 03:02 PM death penalty in some countries that is wrong god loves everyone I am not gay but I respect people's lifestyle what people do is their business
yes you can get death penality in morocco for being gay however the 2 exceptions are marrakech , tanger morocco very open in these 2 cities and safe for the most part for gay people in the 2 cities in fez if u are gay U get the death penalty that is is wrong
Be punk, hippie, alternative, stylish is a lifestyle, not gay.
Be gay is not as wear a cloth.
lindow June 5th, 2008, 05:37 PM The sex change is legal in Japan.
The family register changes from a woman to a man are legal, too.
2-chome, Shinjuku is Gay town.
There is about 200 gay bar in 2-chome, Shinjuku.
2-chome, Shinjuku.
http://www.u-side.jp/las/39/img/p1/p1_06.jpg
Gay bar of 2-chome, Shinjuku.
http://img01.ohmynews.co.jp/news/13/13850/57de7b25c029d4b0aabc_ll.JPG
philadweller June 5th, 2008, 06:18 PM The gay rights map
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2899/worldhomosexualitylawssu3.png
coincides with the world happiness map (with the exception of Saudi Arabia).
http://www.fahad.com/pics/world_map_of_happiness_lrg.jpg
And the map of Islam
http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/world-religion-map.jpg
Islamic countries are the most anti-gay. I feel very sorry for gay people in those countries.
The death penalty for being gay is as despicable as the Nazis killing Jews....Or Bush killing Iraqis.
Murder is murder any way you slice it.
bhopalus June 5th, 2008, 06:31 PM best for gays = every city that's not...
- Muslim (except proly the liberal ones like lebanon, turkey, etc)
- Vatican City
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everywhere else, nobody gives a crap if you're gay. the laws may discriminate against you, but in india, for example, nobody enforces them at all. the worst is that you won't get full marriage rights, but in a place like india where most marriages aren't even registered, it hardly makes a difference.
Yörch June 5th, 2008, 06:39 PM This is one amazingly-sized parade and it's certainly indicative of gay acceptance (to a certain degree, as with any other gay prides). However, it should be taken into account that Sao Paulo and it's metro area have huge population figures. That plays a factor in how big its gay prides are. Isn't there like a certain percentage (roughly) of people born gay in a given place. Well, SP + metro area will yield a huge gay pride.
Good point... This maybe also applies for Mexico City...
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Thermo June 5th, 2008, 06:41 PM Sydney has always been Australia's gay mecca. But this is changing.
There is nowhere like my home state of Queensland and is full of gay men an women moving north:D
J
I still can't believe that a modern Western country like Australia has a real homophobe as prime minister.... How is this possible? :ohno:
karim aboussir June 5th, 2008, 11:08 PM a man was arrested in fez morocco for being gay was sentenced to death but king mohammed 6 forgave him and dropped all the charges was told to get out of fez , he moved to marrakech and now is accepted there since marrakech is very open minded city
edubejar June 6th, 2008, 12:44 AM a man was arrested in fez morocco for being gay was sentenced to death but king mohammed 6 forgave him and dropped all the charges was told to get out of fez , he moved to marrakech and now is accepted there since marrakech is very open minded city
Is the rumor that Morocco's new king (the young one) is gay? Even my gay-friendly heterosexual colleague told me and I've heard that before.
JayT June 6th, 2008, 12:46 AM Good point... This maybe also applies for Mexico City...
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I am very interested in Mexico. I have a Mexican Boyfriend whom I love very much.
J
Bogota June 6th, 2008, 02:43 AM Bogotá - Colombia
An article written by an Australian for DNA magazine in that country. http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7623/001dna11ir6.jpg
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Celebration in front of Congress Building after the High Courts approved the same rights for gay couples as those existing for straight couples.
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A few friends ready for Gay Pridehttp://img65.imageshack.us/img65/953/gay1ns6.jpg
Just making sure who is whose boyfriendhttp://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4148/gay2vq2.jpg
And since this is skyscrapercity: Colpatria Tower: Bogota's tallest
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karim aboussir June 6th, 2008, 02:45 AM yes I heard that rumor but I was told he supports gays in morocco but not gay marriages
cecil.b June 6th, 2008, 03:41 AM I still can't believe that a modern Western country like Australia has a real homophobe as prime minister.... How is this possible? :ohno:
He was elected out of Government last year dude....
We have a new Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, who is changing the agy laws as we speak...
ArchiTennis June 6th, 2008, 05:43 AM Gay does not equal "lifestyle".
Tubeman June 6th, 2008, 09:37 AM Okay lots of random photos of Bogota and discussion about countries... not really 'Citytalk' anymore...
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