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sun-tex February 16th, 2012, 04:44 PM Ayala was created not by Binay and NOT by the AYALAS
it was created by Marcos as the Financial center of the Philippines, the first 50 developments or more are Marcos cronies,eg.,ayala,campos,tan,virata,madrigal,zobel,cojuanco,florendo,benedicto,disini,silverio,enrile,even the owner of more than 700 business establishments, President joseph estrada
it was on 1990's when there is a massive infrastructure boom in the country which makes makati has surrounded by some taller buildings above 40 floors
Maxxclip February 17th, 2012, 02:04 AM good morning to all:)
again, i would like to hear the side of pro/anti-corona on this issue...
I quoted Mighty_Me as your basis. Thanks in advance;)
from Mighty_Me (http://disqus.com/Mighty_Me/)
I have a simple mind. I understand simple things. This simple mind can understand simple math and Corona's wealth doesn't add up. In the beginning I supported the idea of the executive not meddling with the judiciary, so I vouched for Corona, thinking it's good that Corona stands by what he and I believe should be. But I listened to both sides and just by listening it has opened my eyes. At this stage, it's quite obvious that Corona had accumulated wealth in a very short period of time and I think it would be impossible to accumulate that much wealth, buying villas, condos here and there. It's quite simple -- you need to have that much capital/wealth to go on a buying condo spree. And relying on gov pay wouldn't suffice. SIMPLE - someone gave him money out of nowhere (now who could that be).
But one thing much simpler is that, when you have nothing to hide, why afraid of disclosing it to the people that you serve, Mr. Corona?
skyion February 17th, 2012, 03:15 AM good morning to all:)
again, i would like to hear the side of pro/anti-corona on this issue...
I quoted Mighty_Me as your basis. Thanks in advance;)
from Mighty_Me (http://disqus.com/Mighty_Me/)
how mighty that jejemonic simple mind is, an individual with a less jejemonic mentality already coming from a family of 'no ordinary means," saving enough and prudently for 45 years with smart investments like how a typhoon damaged condo unit was purchased, time deposits, living in a rent-free old house, etc. is unfortunately something already so mind boggling to any mediocre jejemon who can only mudsling, act self-righteous and watch budoy soap opera from ABiaS.
Corona even volunteered to disclose his dollar accounts, something that the pulpol donkeys-in pork barrel-carrot Yellow 'tong'ressmen are afraid of as it will make them more pulpol than ever.
what the mighty jejemon with simple mind should be more interested is how the heck did fat Drilon got that P150 Million mansion, the Jr. son of corrupt Tupas Sr. built 50 million mansion and made a Yellow Diarrhea look when threatened of his account exposure, the incompetent puppet skyrocketing in assets, including the Porsche as LORRRD's blessing from the PAGCOR official he put in position and other YELLOW CORRUPTION & HYPOCRISY.
Maxxclip February 17th, 2012, 03:22 AM ^^ thanks for the comment:)
Parchie February 17th, 2012, 04:49 AM good morning to all:)
again, i would like to hear the side of pro/anti-corona on this issue...
I quoted Mighty_Me as your basis. Thanks in advance;)
from Mighty_Me (http://disqus.com/Mighty_Me/)
Simple mind indeed! That would be in the same level as trying to do the math on why the president's and those around him got to be richer in so short a time! Let's just say in the simplest way that they are on the same questionable spot.
We were not born yesterday not to know why those in the government fought hard to get those positions - it's the personal economics of things, what else? Why would a non-performing, lackadaisical, good for nothing lawmaker fight to get the top position in which that position is very exacting and inherits a lot of the persistent problems of the country? Is it because he thinks he can help the country? Nuts! He wants to be there to protect his personal/family business. See the preoccupation of the guy: he doesn't care about the welfare of the people or the economy of the country but on how he can wrestle back his families properties!
Maxxclip February 17th, 2012, 05:00 AM ^^
:) thanks. I appreciate your discernment on the issue at hand ;)
Mercato February 17th, 2012, 05:44 AM Point of order, we wonder how some actually believe the distorted history they present on the floor. Makati was already the country's premiere financial district in the 1950s and there were already skyscrapers in Ayala Ave in the 1960s even before Marcos. :lol:
Admiral Montojo's descendants. :)
Admiral Montojo's daughter, Fermina, became the second wife of Jacobo Zobel y Zangoniz. With Don Jacobo she sired Consuelo (married to the American General Adler of Hawaii and benefactress of the Consuelo Foundation), Matilde (who married into the Andres Soriano family), Gloria (who married into the Padilla family and whose children, Georgina Macrohon and Alejandro Padilla of Spain administer the Premio Zobel), and Fernando Zobel, the renowned painter whose works hang prominently in Madrid, Barcelona, and Ateneo de Manila University's art galleries.
With this marriage, Fermina Montojo became stepmother to her husband's three young children: Jacobo (father of polo player billionaire Enrique Zobel de Ayala y Olgado), Alfonso (father of photographer billionaire Jaime Zobel de Ayala y Pfitz) and the youngest, Mercedes Zobel de Ayala y Roxas de McMicking (a.k.a. MacMicking) who owned the majority of shares in the Ayala Corporation, Bank of the Philippine Islands, Globe Telecom, Cebu Holdings, Honda Philippines, and was, together with husband Joseph McMicking, developer of the Sotogrande in Spain and the entire Makati central business district, including Forbes Park.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
So much for glory grabbing trapos. Which is pro'lley why Makati's streets have mostly Hispanic names and well, the country's premiere road is named Ayala Avenue, not Marcos Avenue, thank goodness. :lol: :lol:
Makati was also the epicenter for the huge demonstrations against Marcos and a major hub of the opposition to the dictatorship.
nayki February 17th, 2012, 06:19 AM interesting...
VP Binay: Target of Corona trial
By: Rigoberto Tiglao
Philippine Daily Inquirer
10:42 pm | Wednesday, February 15th, 2012
Jejomar Binay Jr. is the political target of President Aquino and the Liberal Party’s imperious blitzkrieg to remove Chief Justice Renato Corona from the Supreme Court, sources close to the Vice President claimed.
“Everyone knows that the trial is a power game that has nothing to do with an anti-corruption crusade,” one source said. “If Corona is taken out and (senior Associate Justice Antonio) Carpio becomes chief justice, and with the rest of the justices terrorized, may laban si Mar maging vice president soon,” he said.
Startling as the claim may seem, the facts supporting it are unassailable.
http://opinion.inquirer.net/23135/vp-binay-target-of-corona-trial
and this is written by Rigoberto Tiglao a former cabinet secretary and very close ally of GMA :lol:
dessertfox February 17th, 2012, 06:53 AM good morning to all:)
again, i would like to hear the side of pro/anti-corona on this issue...
I quoted Mighty_Me as your basis. Thanks in advance;)
from Mighty_Me (http://disqus.com/Mighty_Me/)
It seems lacking in-depth understanding being driven by bias. The case of CJ is plain simple politics nothing no less. He is an achiever and i could say hardworking husband and wife. How much is 50 million nowadays for the rich and famous. Manny Paquiao is earning billion in a bloody sports and still wanting for more since after his career, nobody knows, thanks that he change ways. CJ becoming on top of lawyering career with same rat race of most profession, money wise for me they look like pauper. Compare him with next in line to become chief justice who showed same fixed SALn it is more than the entire exposed net-worth of the Coronas and remember the "FIRM".:ohno:
As far as the Impeachment case now in the Senate, if I were to judge base on what benefit the government gets money wise (as being the issues), how much is say 100 million with no sure of winning against 10 billion of government has to pay for the Hacienda Luisita case which is vital in our country's social problem?
dessertfox February 17th, 2012, 12:50 PM Sagot ni CJ sa mga banat sa kanya ni P-Noy.
BELOW IS THE FULL TEXT OF CHIEF JUSTICE RENATO CORONA'S FEBRUARY 17, 2012 STATEMENT
Ako po ay nananawagan sa ating pangulo na huwagpakialaman, pangunahan at impluwensiyahan ang Senate Impeachment Court. Mayroon pong proseso ang impeachment proceedings, at iyan po ay nakasaad sa ating Saligang Batas at sa mga alituntunin at kalakaran sa Senado.
Hindi po ba't kayo ang pumili ng hakbang na ito at nagdulog nito sa Senado? Huwag po natin ilayo ang usapin sa proseso ng Impeachment Court at idaansa media ang paghusga sa akin. Pabayaan po nating umusad ang kaso nang ayon sa batas at sa proseso nito. Gaya po ng una ninyong nasabi, higit na makabubuti kung kayo po ay "magmasid at manahimik muna."
​Doon po sa mga nabanggit ninyong "tila ba sadya tayong hinihilo o inililigaw para mawalan ng interes," wala po tayong dapat sisihin diyan kung hindi ang inyong mga taga-usig na siyang naglabas ng huwad na listahan ng aking mga ari-arian, naglathala ng aking sahod upang ipakita na wala akong kakayahang bumili, nguni't hindi naman isinama ang pangkalahatang sitwasyon, at nitong huli, nagharap ng mga palsipikadong dokumento ng bangko. Sino po ba ang talagang nanlilinlang ng taong bayan?
​Bilang pangulo ng bayan, hindi po ninyo kailangang"liwanagin ang dapat liwanagin, at ituwid ang isyung pilit dinidiskaril ng ilan." Tungkulin po iyan ng Senate Impeachment Court. Ang tungkulin po ninyo ay hanapan ng lunas anglumalalang kahirapan at pagkagutom ng marami nating mamamayan, walang humpay na pagtaas ng presyo ng gasolina at ng ibang pangunahing bilihin, patuloy na demolisyon ng tirahan ngmga maralita, at mabagal na tugon sa mga nasalanta ng kalamidad dala ng kapabayaan sa kalikasan. Itong mga ito po ang dapat ninyong pagtuunan ng pansin.
Bakit po ninyo tinuturuan ang kabataan na maghusga na hindi alam ang buong katotohanan, na iisang panig pa lang ang nadidinig? Ganito po bang "hustisya" at "fair play" ang tinuturo ninyo sa kabataan? Bigyan ninyo po ako ng pagkakataon namagbigay ng aking panig, magharap ng aking ebidensiya, sagutin ang inyong mga walang basehang paratang, at ilahad ang katotohanan. Ito po ang tunay na katarungan at ang naaayon sa ating Saligang Batas.
Kung kayo po ay nababagalan na sa pag-usad ng kasong isinampa ninyo laban sa akin, ang solusyon ay nasa kamay ng inyong mga taga-usig.
Ako po ay naglabas na ng aking SALN. Hindi ko po ito itinatago. Ang hindi po paglathala nito ay ayon sa nabuong patakaran ng Korte Suprema dalawang dekada na ang nakalipas, hindi pa po ako mahistrado. Ang SALN ko po ay akingipaliliwanag pagdating ng aking oras o pagkakataon, ayon sa proseso ng impeachment proceedings.
Marahil, higit na makabubuti kung ilabas na rin ninyo, Ginoong Pangulo, ang inyong SALN, at ipaliwanag ito sa taong-bayan. Siguro, isama ninyo na rin ang inyong bank accounts at psychological records na matagal ng isyu. Mayroon po tayong obligasyon na ipakita sa taong-bayan na maayos ang ating pagiisip.
Hinggil po doon sa nabanggit ninyong kaso na Rabe v. Flores, na kung saan ang isang court interpreter ay natanggal sa serbisyo, dapat po sigurong maipaliwanag sa inyong mabuti ng inyong mga magagaling na abogado na si Bb. Flores ay natanggal sa serbisyo hindi lamang dahil sa hindi niya dineklara sa kanyang SALN ang kanyang paupahan. Si Bb. Flores po ay natanggal dahil sa pangunahing dahilan na tumanggap po siya ng "double compensation" o sahod ng dalawang beses, isa galing sa bayan ng Panabo, Davao, at yung isa mula sa korte.
Sang-ayon po ako sa inyo na dapat hindi na payagang "magpatuloy ang sistema kung saan may nanlalamang at nilalamanagan." Nasa mga 20 po lamang ang aking mga tagapagtanggol na nagseserbisyo ng libre, laban sa 188 congressmen at humigit kumulang na 60 private prosecutors, lahat sumasahod sa kaban ng bayan. Ito po ba ay tama? Idagdag pa po natin diyan ang BIR at LTO Commissioners, LRA Administrator,Registers of Deeds, BID Commissioner, at marami pang ibang opisyal at kawani ng pamahalaan na inuutusan upang hanapan ako at ang aking buong pamilya ng mga kamalian.
Ginagamit na po ninyo ang buong puwersa ng gobyerno upang ako at ang aking buong pamilya ay apihin at pagmalupitan. Ito po ba ang patas na laban? At matuwid na daan?
Nananawagan din po ako sa taong-bayan. Kontrolado po ng ating pangulo ang buong Executive Department. Kontrolado rin po niya ang House of Representatives. Huwag po nating payagan na mahawakan pa niya ang Senado. Huwag po tayong pumayag na posasan niya ang Korte Suprema at buong hudikatura. Ito po ay para sa ating demokrasya. Ito po ay para sa ating lahat.
NOVO ECIJANO February 17th, 2012, 01:01 PM ^^very well said
sun-tex February 17th, 2012, 01:47 PM tayo ba ay may ULOL na Pangulo??? ATENEO Community ilabas biyo na
Parchie February 17th, 2012, 02:39 PM tayo ba ay may ULOL na Pangulo??? ATENEO Community ilabas biyo na
Hindi ko po sinasabi. Pero parang . . . . . . . .
boom_box February 17th, 2012, 03:32 PM ^^Black propaganda mga iyan... Mga walang magawa sa buhay, puro mga papansin..
-The Mass Turds..
amigo32 February 17th, 2012, 03:36 PM really?:D I've read somewhere about that psycho...:D
Parchie February 17th, 2012, 03:49 PM really?:D I've read somewhere about that psycho...:D
Ako rin, meron akong na download na video explaining the details of the said psycho thing.
sun-tex February 17th, 2012, 03:55 PM sa ateneo may record, ang aquila legis at Utopia may hawak na dyan,ilalabas yan sa akdang panahon
amigo32 February 17th, 2012, 04:11 PM at reliable ang source, hindi basta "small lady" lang:lol:
d7beast February 17th, 2012, 04:16 PM Yan ang lihim na di binubunyag,.. Impeachable offense!!!
amigo32 February 17th, 2012, 04:19 PM meron pa dapat iladlad:D
sun-tex February 17th, 2012, 04:23 PM si kris sa lunes iiyak at magpapakampi yan sa taumbayan, lelang mo kris, awayan na to ng pamilya,wala ng excuse,kulong sa kulong,kaso sa kaso,press sa press, buti nalang may yellow(diabetic) karen davila,jerry baja,anthony taberna,linda jumilia and adel tamano na nasa gitna lang
unilke, ted,korina,jon ibanez, and other friends of ricky carandang
Parchie February 17th, 2012, 04:39 PM meron pa dapat iladlad:D
Kaw ha! Dismulado nga yan dahil palaging pinag-uusapan lablayp niya! Antay tayo kung sino na naman ang next gurl na ilalabas. Malamang hanap ng hanap na naman niyan si krissy.
amigo32 February 17th, 2012, 04:42 PM he is living a lie, dapat iladlad na talaga nya:lol:
sun-tex February 17th, 2012, 04:43 PM ipaglalaban ata ni grace lee karapatan niya, ano pa nga ba eh naibigay na raw niya ang lahat, parang lady jang sa dong yi ng korea,hehehehe
d7beast February 17th, 2012, 05:17 PM pag sabihan ninyo na si grace lee baka mabigla niya si notnot e ga buhok nalang pala difference between reality and insanity (sorry ha, based ito sa finding nung Ateneo psycologist ba yun???),..
sun-tex February 17th, 2012, 05:28 PM psychiatrist ata na psychologist rin,at pari pa,parang officer ng aquila legis fraternity na ngaun sumuporta sa utopia fraternity
Bosnyboy February 18th, 2012, 03:33 AM good morning to all:)
again, i would like to hear the side of pro/anti-corona on this issue...
I quoted Mighty_Me as your basis. Thanks in advance;)
from Mighty_Me (http://disqus.com/Mighty_Me/)
In fairness, the defense panel and even cj corona did promise to present the fcdu accounts as well as the computation on how he got the millions once its their turn to present the evidences. So lets just wait and see. right now its still the prosecution turn to present their case
Bosnyboy February 18th, 2012, 03:35 AM ^^Black propaganda mga iyan... Mga walang magawa sa buhay, puro mga papansin..
-The Mass Turds..
Pag si pnoy na ang tinitira black propaganda pero pag si corona ang tinitira, katotohanan ang tawag dun. Asan ang fairness dun? Asan ang essesnse ng tuwid ng daan? Asan ang rule of law?
Parchie February 18th, 2012, 03:37 AM In fairness, the defense panel and even cj corona did promise to present the fcdu accounts as well as the computation on how he got the millions once its their turn to present the evidences. So lets just wait and see. right now its still the prosecution turn to present their case
If that's the case, what remains to be seen will be: when and how will the president and his cabal can do a Corona disclosure? Can we expect them to do the same?
Officialdmcileasing February 18th, 2012, 05:49 AM ipaglalaban ata ni grace lee karapatan niya, ano pa nga ba eh naibigay na raw niya ang lahat, parang lady jang sa dong yi ng korea,hehehehe
Sila n b tlga? nahuhuli n ako sa balita.. :lol::lol::lol:
3cr February 19th, 2012, 02:19 AM Bank secrecy waiver backed
Journal online
February 18, 2012
http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/news/top-stories/24214-bank-secrecy-waiver-backed
TWO members of the House of Representatives backed a proposal to compel government officials and employees to sign a waiver for full audit of their finances.
Davao City Rep. Karlo Alexei Nograles and Western Samar Rep. Mel Sarmiento said that for a transparent and graft-free government, deposits of public officials and employees should be exempted from existing laws on bank secrecy including accounts covering dollar deposits.
The two lawmakers said this waiver holds the key to dismantling the remaining legal stumbling blocks in the quest for a clean and graft-free government.
Earlier, Sen. Francis Escudero filed Senate Bill 107 which would require “public officials and employees to submit a written permission or waiver in favor of the Ombudsman to look into all deposits of whatever nature with banks or banking institutions both within and outside the Philippines including investment bonds issued by the government of the Philippines, its political subdivisions and instrumentalities and providing penalties therefor.”
However, the lawmakers said that this proposal, if passed into law, should contain all the necessary safeguards to ensure that this waiver will not be indiscriminately used for a personal agenda.
“There should be a limit to this waiver. This could also be a potential tool to serve one's selfish personal agenda,” Nograles stressed..
Nograles said that if used correctly, the proposal will end all future time-consuming public debate on issues relative to financial matters and save the banking industry the burden of publicly dealing with banking intricacies that might send the wrong signal to foreign investors.
The solon stressed the need for all public officials and employees to be open and transparent in all their financial transactions and dealings. He said that people in government must make the sacrifice once they decide to enter public service.
For his part, Sarmiento said that there is an urgent need to review the country’s banking and investments laws which should harmonize public interest with the need to promote the banking industry.
He also agreed with Escudero that the proposed waiver could help government recover ill-gotten funds.
Sarmiento said the waiver proposal will provide the legal mechanism to guarantee transparency and accountability of all government officials without compromising the integrity of the banking industry.
Maxxclip February 19th, 2012, 03:39 AM ^^
iyan ang matamis na bunga ng paglilitis :okay:
sun-tex February 19th, 2012, 05:46 AM si mel sarmiento corrupt din yan, gumagawa ng samar roads along maharlika ngayon ay asian highway ay puro sa pamilya nila, mga VOLVO ang mga tatak ng makinarya, hamak na mahal at magaganda, saan kaya kinuha yun? bago ang bunga at sanga,simulan muna natin sa ugat kong saan naka angkla ang bawat tao
Parchie February 19th, 2012, 07:27 AM ^^
iyan ang matamis na bunga ng paglilitis :okay:
Hindi pa po bunga. Tinatanim pa po ang puno. Mabuti kung lalago at magbunga. Alam mo namang andaming ayaw malaman ang mga tagong yaman nila. FOI bill na lang sana, kaso, parang hindi priority!
Let's cross our fingers and see the developments in the future.
Maxxclip February 19th, 2012, 10:31 AM si mel sarmiento corrupt din yan, gumagawa ng samar roads along maharlika ngayon ay asian highway ay puro sa pamilya nila, mga VOLVO ang mga tatak ng makinarya, hamak na mahal at magaganda, saan kaya kinuha yun? bago ang bunga at sanga,simulan muna natin sa ugat kong saan naka angkla ang bawat tao
tama ka :) ngunit kahit anong punla meron ang bawat isa sa atin, kung mahinang klase ang lupa... hindi rin uugatan ang punla, mabubulok lang ito at hindi magiging puno na namumunga at sumasanga ;)
kailangan muna nating diligin ang lupa ng mga "nabubulok" na "pataba", sa gayon, magiging productive ang lahat ng binhi na meron ang bawat isa sa atin.
Hindi pa po bunga. Tinatanim pa po ang puno. Mabuti kung lalago at magbunga. Alam mo namang andaming ayaw malaman ang mga tagong yaman nila. FOI bill na lang sana, kaso, parang hindi priority!
Let's cross our fingers and see the developments in the future.
paano nga natin malalaman kung itinatago o pilit na itinatago nila? :D
sabi nga, walang higit na nakaaalam sa "laro" kung hindi ang mismong gumawa at nakaisip nito. ganito din sa paggawa ng mga batas sa bayan natin...
kung ang online games ay may tinatawag na "cheat codes", ang batas naman ay may tinatawag na "loopholes" ;)
given na ang magaling at bobong abogado..., ngunit walang dadaig sa mapanuring mata, isip, at tenga nang mapagmasid na Filipino.
sabi nga ni CJ corona, among the many evil people in this world... the most dangerous is the one who knows the law but has no conscience :)
hakz2007 February 19th, 2012, 10:48 AM A Day-To-Day Log
Corona on Trial (The 1st Month)
MANILA, Philippines — January 16 – The trial opens with the defense insisting that the Chief Justice Renato Corona is not guilty of the allegations presented by the prosecution. Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile, sitting as the presiding judge of the impeachment court, disposes of pending motions and manifestations and adjourns the hearing after just two hours.
January 17 – The court rejects the petition of the prosecution to subpoena the entire family of the Chief Justice to explain their wealth. Prosecution requests the court to subpoena Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR) Commissioner Kim Henares and other government officials to testify on Corona’s alleged ill-gotten wealth.
January 18 – The prosecution convinces the court to compel Supreme Court clerk Enriqueta Vidal to produce the SALNs of Corona from 2002 to 2010, despite the 1992 resolution which bars the disclosure of the SALN of the members of the judiciary.
January 19 – Prosecutors present evidence they claim shows that Corona had undervalued his properties in his SALN. The defense expresses concern about that some senator-judges are acting as substitutes for the prosecutors.
January 24 – The prosecution expands Article 2 of the impeachment to include allegations hat Corona amassed ill-gotten wealth. After being absent during the previous hearings, Senator-Judge Miriam Defensor Santiago makes her presence immediately felt by admonishing the prosecution for not doing its job well. The court also allows the use of Filipino to let the public understand the proceedings better.
January 25 – The prosecution reveals that Corona’s assets didn’t match what he declared on his SALN. The court bars the showing of evidence by the prosecution related to the ill-gotten wealth charge.
January 26 – BIR Chief Kim Henares testifies that the SALNs of Corona and his family bear discrepancies in relation to their acquisition of properties. Defense moves to ask Senator-Judge Franklin Drilon to inhibit himself from the trial because of his alleged bias against Corona.
January 30 – Giovanni Ng of Megaworld Corp. testifies that Corona was given a 40 percent discount, amounting to around P10 million when he bought a unit in the Bellagio Tower in Taguig City.
January 31 – Ng says that Corona was never really given a special discount but that the price of the Bellagio unit was drastically slashed because of storm damage. Prosecutors request the court to subpoena the Corona’s bank records.
February 1 – Prosecutors contend that Corona could not have received an P11-million cash advance from his wife’s company since its certification was revoked in 2003.
February 2 – Prosecutors retract their earlier statements before the media and announce that they will pres-ent documents covering 45 properties allegedly owned by Corona, saying the actual figure was 21.
February 6 – The court grants the prosecution’s request to subpoena Corona’s bank records, but pressed the prosecutors to reveal how they got hold of the documents in their possession.
February 7 – Prosecutors move to Article 3 and present Roberto Anduiza, president of Flight Attendants and Stewards Association of the Philippines (FASAP), to testify on Corona’s alleged failure to have a strong stand regarding his decisions in the Supreme Court.
February 8 – Philippine Savings Bank President Pascual Garcia III testifies that Corona kept at least P24.6 million in five-peso accounts from 2007-2010. Garcia declines to present Corona’s foreign accounts saying he could be held liable under the foreign currency deposit act.
February 9 – The prosecution says Corona had at least P12 million deposited in Bank of the Philippine Islands checking accounts in Ayala Branch as of 2010. The Supreme Court issues a temporary restraining order against the scrutiny of Corona’s dollar accounts.
February 13 – The court votes 13-10 in favor of complying with the Supreme Court TRO. Senator-judges admonished the defense panel for raising allegations of bribery and challenged the panel to name its sources. Annabelle Tiongson, PS Bank- Katipunan branch manager, testifies that the bank documents obtained by the prosecution did not come from her branch.
February 14 – Chief defense counsel Serafin Cuevas requests that the court end its session early, in honor of Enrile’s birthday and in celebration of Valentine’s Day. Before the court adjourns, the prosecution is against warned it could be held liable for entering as evidence fake bank documents.
February 15 – The impeachment court orders the PSBank to examine and compare the bank records pre-sented as evidence.
February 16 – As the trial enters its first month, PSBank President Garcia testifies that Corona closed his three-peso time deposit accounts on the same day that the House of Representatives filed an impeachment complaint against him in the Senate.source (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/351869/a-daytoday-log)
coldfire083 February 21st, 2012, 09:30 AM GMA News @gmanews
Enrile tells Prosec's Lim, 'You're fishing for evidence' after Lim wanted to adopt documents requested by court. #CJTrial via @Joseph_Morong
LuckyLady February 21st, 2012, 09:33 AM talo na naman ang prosecutors. sabi ni enrile kay farinas dapat ang evidence nandyan bago mag file ng impeachment hindi yung mag fishing fishing expedition pa. so sino ba talaga ang gumawa ng ebidensya ngayon na dineny na ng PS bank na galing yon sa kanila? Amlac ba? di ba under yan sa office of the pres? so ibig sabihin galeng sa kamay ng penoy admi ang ebidensya? at bakit ba ma audit sa amlac si Corona? di ba ang audit sa amlac ay kung may crime lang na kidnapping, drugs at may court order so bakit ba naudit si corona by amlac eh wala naman sya under sa mga crimes na to? ibig sabihin talagang may kamay na gusto syang galawin at gagawin ang lahat kahit na labag sa batas basta lang mapatalsik sya???
buti na lang nandyan si Merriam pala para mag remind sa kanila sa RA 6426
coldfire083 February 21st, 2012, 09:45 AM Naku supalpal nanaman ulit!
junex February 21st, 2012, 09:53 AM naku pasensya sila..kala nila mag ala-Merceditas si Corona kaya di sila particular sa evidence..maysado ng halata yang panot na yan..
absinthe_888 February 21st, 2012, 09:57 AM Hindi pinayagan ni Manong JPE na ilagay sa witness stand yung PAL VP for Sales Enrique Javier dahil wala naman sa original complaint yung magiging testimony nya.
The prosecution panel is a f@cking joke.
tyronne February 21st, 2012, 10:59 AM #CJontrial Enrile: You did not allege bribery? Manuel (prosec): No we did not. Enrile: All right, finished. *bangs gavel*
This is in relation to Article 3.
coldfire083 February 21st, 2012, 11:26 AM Kung merong 3knockdown rule sa trial na to ay talo na prosecutions ngayon. 3X sila nasupalpal this day.
coldfire083 February 21st, 2012, 11:33 AM LOL! Merong stranger in paradise na witness daw prosecution sabi ni Enrile.
kalbongdad February 21st, 2012, 11:59 AM TRASH daw sabi ni manong.....:lol: wtf......nanu nanu na keng prosecution kine?
hay....itigil na impeach kay corona....simulan na kay notnot...:lol:
boom_box February 21st, 2012, 12:01 PM Bat wala yung dragunita ngayon? LOL
coldfire083 February 21st, 2012, 12:05 PM Sabik na si De Lima sa exposure sa TV bukas.... Kelangan makita siya sa TV para sa senate elections.
tyronne February 21st, 2012, 12:23 PM Sabik na si De Lima sa exposure sa TV bukas.... Kelangan makita siya sa TV para sa senate elections.
LOL!:lol: Natawa naman ako sa comment mo. Pero kaabang-abang ito hehe!
sun-tex February 21st, 2012, 03:05 PM pustahan tayo,uulamin si de lima bukas regarding sa TRO, how come a DOJ secretary betray the SUPREME court of the Republic
tapos ka kay Miriam,enrile at kay Lacson(ginulo mo ang mahabang buhok niya)
Parchie February 21st, 2012, 06:16 PM pustahan tayo,uulamin si de lima bukas regarding sa TRO, how come a DOJ secretary betray the SUPREME court of the Republic
tapos ka kay Miriam,enrile at kay Lacson(ginulo mo ang mahabang buhok niya)
Paano ba ang pustahan? Dun ako sa kay Manong, and the group.
sun-tex February 21st, 2012, 06:27 PM de lima will face "scrutiny" today
wino February 21st, 2012, 09:00 PM why?
i haven't been following this issue closely.. nakakainip na kasi.. parang wala nang pinatutunguhan ang kaso ng impeachment...
skyion February 22nd, 2012, 01:31 AM TRASH daw sabi ni manong.....:lol: wtf......nanu nanu na keng prosecution kine?
hay....itigil na impeach kay corona....simulan na kay notnot...:lol:
tumpak, simulan na impeachment ng pulpol na tutang presdente ng mga hipoktritong mudslinging jejemons at nang di waldasin pa ng milyones ang taxpayers' money sa interes ng mga amo nitong Oligarchs.
it will also be more excting for the International Court to target down on Oligarchs especially that many international companies are filing suit against the epic suckers under the inconmpetent puppet Yellow administration. More particularly for the HK Chinese and Canadians, etc. to sue the ABiaS Oligarch when it compromised the safety of their fellow citizens who were victimized by the Quirino hostage tragedy not only because of the costly incompetence of the "smiling dog" in handling the tragedy but because the Oligarch media was very abusive in its coverage in the name of scoop profiteerings over the lives of human beings, and these same crass Oligarchs unjustly sucking burdened consumers with among Asia's most expensive electric bills.
mabuti kung mga Yellowtard consumers lang ang pinagatasan nila as they deserve it anyway, kaso dinamay pa ang buong bansa :bash:
3cr February 22nd, 2012, 01:32 AM Enrile spares PAL exec from witness stand, clears PSB in leak
Business Mirror
February 21, 2012
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/top-news/23580-enrile-spares-pal-exec-from-witness-stand-clears-psb-in-leak-
Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile yesterday disallowed Philippine Airlines Vice President Enrique Javier to testify as a prosecution witness in the impeachment trial of Chief Justice Renato Corona, ruling that Javier would be testifying on alleged bribery charges not included in the Article of Impeachment being heard by senator-judges.
Later, he cleared Philippine Savings Bank, and pinpointed either the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas or the Anti-Money Laundering Council (Amlac or AMLC) as the likely source of the leaked bank documents that the prosecutors submitted to the Impeachment Court showing Corona to have opened a separate account at the PSBank with an initial deposit amounting to $700,000.
“I am convinced the leak did not come from the bank. They submitted it [Corona’s deposit records] to the Bangko Sentral and the AMLC. Whether the AMLC or the BSP was the source of the leak is a conclusion that can be drawn from the questions that I asked [during Monday’s trial],” Enrile said in an interview.
But Amlac denied any involvement in the examination of the deposit accounts of Corona and said the testimony by a bank president to this effect was inaccurate, misleading and unfair.
“The court won’t allow it, we need to have some order here, if you want to introduce him as your witness, you first amend the Articles of Impeachment,” Enrile boomed before ordering Javier to step down from the witness stand on Day 21 of Corona’s trial.
The prosecution panel wanted to present Javier as one of its witnesses in Article III that charged Corona with “excessive entanglement” with detained former President Gloria Arroyo and alleged flip-flopping in labor cases filed by airline employees against PAL management.
In an interview after Enrile suspended the proceedings, the prosecutors told reporters Javier would have bolstered charges that Corona “flip-flopped” on cases involving PAL and its flight attendants because the Chief Justice enjoyed privileges and perks from PAL, including the so-called Platinum Card that gave holders huge discounts and free plane fares.
But Enrile noted that the prosecution wanted to present Javier to link the privileges and benefits enjoyed by Corona and his wife in their frequent foreign travels aboard PAL to SC decisions, which may consist bribery, a charge not included in the impeachment complaint being heard by the Senate court.
“I warned you several times, there is a limit to the patience of the court,” Enrile told House lead prosecutor Rep. Neil Tupas, who argued that “technicalities” should not prevent Javier from testifying to show the reasons for Corona’s partiality in deciding cases before the Supreme Court involving PAL management.
Enrile said his decision to discharge Javier had nothing to do with the technicalities claimed by Tupas.
“This is not a technicality. The grounds for impeachment are clearly stated in the Constitution. We are already very liberal [with the prosecution panel]. But who are we to review the decision of the Supreme Court? We will not allow it.”
Enrile said his decision to discharge Javier as a witness was “not the fault of this Impeachment Court” but of the prosecution “for the way you are presenting your case and the allegations in your Articles of Impeachment.”
“You are going too far,” Enrile told Tupas. “If you want to allege the receipt of gifts, of valuable things of the respondent then amend your Articles of Impeachment because in effect you are alleging a crime which we will evaluate if it’s a high crime. You are, in effect, alleging that the respondent had been bribed to make that decision.”
But House prosecutors told reporters they were not yet giving up; they are still hoping the Impeachment Court would reconsider the ruling and allow them to present Javier before the senator-judges.
Amlac Executive Director Vic Aquino said in a statement that the agency has no audit functions and could not, therefore, conduct one on Corona’s deposit accounts with the Philippine Savings Bank.
“The AMLC did not conduct an inquiry into or examination of Chief Justice Corona’s deposit accounts with PSBank,” Aquino said, citing Section 11 of the Anti-Money Laundering Act that basically prohibits such examination without the consent of account holders.
“Without the enabling court order, therefore, the AMLC cannot conduct such inquiry or examination except where the predicate crime involved is kidnapping for ransom, a narcotics offense and hijacking, destructive arson or murder, including those perpetrated by terrorists against non-combatant persons and similar targets,” he said.
Any AMLC inquiry is also preceded by a prior court notice to the account holder as laid out by jurisprudence laid down on February 14, 2008, in the case involving Antonio M. Eugenio Jr. et al. in G.R. No. 174629.
Because of this legal impediment, AMLC is even now working with Congress to amend the law and authorize the council to conduct a bank inquiry without giving advance notice to the account holder, Aquino said.
He also said none of the council’s financial investigators have set foot on PSBank’s Katipunan Branch.
“Neither have they requested, been shown, copied, nor received any identity documents and specimen signature cards of Chief Justice Corona from PSBank or any of its branches.
“Hence, the AMLC could not have leaked out deposit account records including the signature cards of the Chief Justice,” Aquino said.
Enrile shared Sen. Joker Arroyo’s concerns that the AMLC action against Corona may be setting a “dangerous” precedent. “Oo nga, dahil ang AMLC is not supposed to examine any account without going to court. Magkakaroon ngayon ng problema yan dito sa Senate… that will be examined very thoroughly because that goes into private rights already.”
Enrile said the senator-judges are expected to eventually confront the issue on whether the Impeachment Court will accept or reject as evidence supposed spurious bank documents showing Corona’s multimillion-peso and dollar deposits at Phil Saving Bank (PSBank) that were not included in the annual statements of assets and liabilities that the Chief Justice filed under oath.
“Magkakaroon ng problema yan at the time when they [prosecution] will offer the evidence because then we will be confronted with the question: can we admit this evidence, given the fact that it was illegally obtained?” Enrile told reporters.
skyion February 22nd, 2012, 01:39 AM de lima will face "scrutiny" today
May they grill the Yellow adulteress puppet with her own yellow fat, then immediately disbar the former Criminal rights commissioner and secretary of Defier of Justice for infecting the ideals of the nations' institutions with Hepatitis.
xyriellewest February 22nd, 2012, 02:45 AM Sabik na si De Lima sa exposure sa TV bukas.... Kelangan makita siya sa TV para sa senate elections.
:lol: media exposure lang ang hanap :D
LuckyLady February 22nd, 2012, 04:37 AM ok so kaya pala gustong gustong palitan ni Penoy si Corona kasi yung ipapalit nya na si Sereno ay tuta pala ng mga Cojuangco???Gusto nyang bayaran ng gobyerno ang mga Cojuangco for the Hacienda Luisata an amount of PHP10 billion pesos!!! and even suggested to take the money from PAGCOR, PCSO, etc...WOW! tumpak talaga ha pag totoo to! swerte naman ng mga COjuanco pag ganito ha they have the SC fighting for them samantalang mga pulubi yung tunay na beneficiary ay kawawa.
so somehow this impeachment looks like it's a battle between the COjuancos/hacienda luisita and the filipinos, di lang yung mga beneficiary sa land reform ha pero lahat na filipino kasi nga pera naman natin ang ibabayad pag nanalo sila eh.
Si Tupas kaya atat na atat kahit na nakakahiya ang performance nya kasi nga several millions rin daw ang makukuha nya pag nanalo sila. partner or owner ba sya ng firm???
Tapos ang LP gusto daw i install si Roxas as VP??? Pero hindi mangyayari hanggang nandyan si Corona, ha ha ha...sana sila na lang ni Binay mag patayan para tapos na agad ang laban and not to the expense of our country,tsktsktsk...
anyway, we can expect to watch for more interesting happenings in our country...
LuckyLady February 22nd, 2012, 04:43 AM Enrile spares PAL exec from witness stand, clears PSB in leak
Business Mirror
February 21, 2012
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/top-news/23580-enrile-spares-pal-exec-from-witness-stand-clears-psb-in-leak-
Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile yesterday disallowed Philippine Airlines Vice President Enrique Javier to testify as a prosecution witness in the impeachment trial of Chief Justice Renato Corona, ruling that Javier would be testifying on alleged bribery charges not included in the Article of Impeachment being heard by senator-judges.
Later, he cleared Philippine Savings Bank, and pinpointed either the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas or the Anti-Money Laundering Council (Amlac or AMLC) as the likely source of the leaked bank documents that the prosecutors submitted to the Impeachment Court showing Corona to have opened a separate account at the PSBank with an initial deposit amounting to $700,000.
“I am convinced the leak did not come from the bank. They submitted it [Corona’s deposit records] to the Bangko Sentral and the AMLC. Whether the AMLC or the BSP was the source of the leak is a conclusion that can be drawn from the questions that I asked [during Monday’s trial],” Enrile said in an interview.
But Amlac denied any involvement in the examination of the deposit accounts of Corona and said the testimony by a bank president to this effect was inaccurate, misleading and unfair.
“The court won’t allow it, we need to have some order here, if you want to introduce him as your witness, you first amend the Articles of Impeachment,” Enrile boomed before ordering Javier to step down from the witness stand on Day 21 of Corona’s trial.
The prosecution panel wanted to present Javier as one of its witnesses in Article III that charged Corona with “excessive entanglement” with detained former President Gloria Arroyo and alleged flip-flopping in labor cases filed by airline employees against PAL management.
In an interview after Enrile suspended the proceedings, the prosecutors told reporters Javier would have bolstered charges that Corona “flip-flopped” on cases involving PAL and its flight attendants because the Chief Justice enjoyed privileges and perks from PAL, including the so-called Platinum Card that gave holders huge discounts and free plane fares.
But Enrile noted that the prosecution wanted to present Javier to link the privileges and benefits enjoyed by Corona and his wife in their frequent foreign travels aboard PAL to SC decisions, which may consist bribery, a charge not included in the impeachment complaint being heard by the Senate court.
“I warned you several times, there is a limit to the patience of the court,” Enrile told House lead prosecutor Rep. Neil Tupas, who argued that “technicalities” should not prevent Javier from testifying to show the reasons for Corona’s partiality in deciding cases before the Supreme Court involving PAL management.
Enrile said his decision to discharge Javier had nothing to do with the technicalities claimed by Tupas.
“This is not a technicality. The grounds for impeachment are clearly stated in the Constitution. We are already very liberal [with the prosecution panel]. But who are we to review the decision of the Supreme Court? We will not allow it.”
Enrile said his decision to discharge Javier as a witness was “not the fault of this Impeachment Court” but of the prosecution “for the way you are presenting your case and the allegations in your Articles of Impeachment.”
“You are going too far,” Enrile told Tupas. “If you want to allege the receipt of gifts, of valuable things of the respondent then amend your Articles of Impeachment because in effect you are alleging a crime which we will evaluate if it’s a high crime. You are, in effect, alleging that the respondent had been bribed to make that decision.”
But House prosecutors told reporters they were not yet giving up; they are still hoping the Impeachment Court would reconsider the ruling and allow them to present Javier before the senator-judges.
Amlac Executive Director Vic Aquino said in a statement that the agency has no audit functions and could not, therefore, conduct one on Corona’s deposit accounts with the Philippine Savings Bank.
“The AMLC did not conduct an inquiry into or examination of Chief Justice Corona’s deposit accounts with PSBank,” Aquino said, citing Section 11 of the Anti-Money Laundering Act that basically prohibits such examination without the consent of account holders.
“Without the enabling court order, therefore, the AMLC cannot conduct such inquiry or examination except where the predicate crime involved is kidnapping for ransom, a narcotics offense and hijacking, destructive arson or murder, including those perpetrated by terrorists against non-combatant persons and similar targets,” he said.
Any AMLC inquiry is also preceded by a prior court notice to the account holder as laid out by jurisprudence laid down on February 14, 2008, in the case involving Antonio M. Eugenio Jr. et al. in G.R. No. 174629.
Because of this legal impediment, AMLC is even now working with Congress to amend the law and authorize the council to conduct a bank inquiry without giving advance notice to the account holder, Aquino said.
He also said none of the council’s financial investigators have set foot on PSBank’s Katipunan Branch.
“Neither have they requested, been shown, copied, nor received any identity documents and specimen signature cards of Chief Justice Corona from PSBank or any of its branches.
“Hence, the AMLC could not have leaked out deposit account records including the signature cards of the Chief Justice,” Aquino said.
Enrile shared Sen. Joker Arroyo’s concerns that the AMLC action against Corona may be setting a “dangerous” precedent. “Oo nga, dahil ang AMLC is not supposed to examine any account without going to court. Magkakaroon ngayon ng problema yan dito sa Senate… that will be examined very thoroughly because that goes into private rights already.”
Enrile said the senator-judges are expected to eventually confront the issue on whether the Impeachment Court will accept or reject as evidence supposed spurious bank documents showing Corona’s multimillion-peso and dollar deposits at Phil Saving Bank (PSBank) that were not included in the annual statements of assets and liabilities that the Chief Justice filed under oath.
“Magkakaroon ng problema yan at the time when they [prosecution] will offer the evidence because then we will be confronted with the question: can we admit this evidence, given the fact that it was illegally obtained?” Enrile told reporters.
ha ha nagtuturuan na sila so sino ngayon ang nagsisinungaling, fake???:lol: :lol:gustong maging hero ng bawat isa pero walang gustong lumabas na umamin kung sino ang gumawa ng illegal:lol:
Dr. Richard Espeno February 22nd, 2012, 06:40 AM hahahaha maliit na bagay lang yang libreng sakay sa PAL at sa malalapit na bansa lang naman ata nagpunta gaya ng singapore....ang nakakatakot ay ang bilyon bilyong piso na ibabayad ng gobyerno sa mga mayari ng hacienda luisita, o baka nga hindi pa maibigay ang mga lupa sa mga magsasaka pag natanggal si CJ Corona
Parchie February 22nd, 2012, 07:01 AM hahahaha maliit na bagay lang yang libreng sakay sa PAL at sa malalapit na bansa lang naman ata nagpunta gaya ng singapore....ang nakakatakot ay ang bilyon bilyong piso na ibabayad ng gobyerno sa mga mayari ng hacienda luisita, o baka nga hindi pa maibigay ang mga lupa sa mga magsasaka pag natanggal si CJ Corona
Pera ba ng bayan ang pambayad diyan? Naka! Wawa ang 'pinas!
Eastern Dragon February 22nd, 2012, 08:19 AM hahahaha maliit na bagay lang yang libreng sakay sa PAL at sa malalapit na bansa lang naman ata nagpunta gaya ng singapore....ang nakakatakot ay ang bilyon bilyong piso na ibabayad ng gobyerno sa mga mayari ng hacienda luisita, o baka nga hindi pa maibigay ang mga lupa sa mga magsasaka pag natanggal si CJ Corona
totally missing the point. accepting gifts and favors from one party litigant during the pendency of the FASAP case smack of what?
Dr. Richard Espeno February 22nd, 2012, 08:44 AM @eastern dragon, sorry but i dont miss the point..or any point, as i have mentioned in the past, CJ Corona "maybe" guilty of some wrong doings but in the end for me just need to weigh between this small wrong doings of Corona which in fact may not be impeacheable or a "yes" non independent Supreme Court. Many many more court cases that will need Supreme Court decisions may arise in the future....which may involve not only Hacienda Luisita but even our own/your own basic rights; and some other issues like what the government of Pnoy wanting to tax GSIS SSS contributions, and I believe we should at all cost and always have an independent Supreme Court...independent from Pnoy!
Parchie February 22nd, 2012, 08:47 AM @eastern dragon, sorry but i dont miss the point..or any point, as i have mentioned in the past, CJ Corona "maybe" guilty of some wrong doings but in the end for me just need to weigh between this small wrong doings of Corona which in fact may not be impeacheable or a "yes" non independent Supreme Court. Many many more court cases that will need Supreme Court decisions may arise in the future....which may involve not only Hacienda Luisita but even our own/your own basic rights; and some other issues like what the government of Pnoy wanting to tax GSIS SSS contributions, and I believe we should at all cost and always have an independent Supreme Court...independent from Pnoy!
And I agree with you on this 100%. Besides, how could they win a case when they always come unprepared.
skyion February 22nd, 2012, 08:49 AM @eastern dragon, sorry but i dont miss the point..or any point, as i have mentioned in the past, CJ Corona "maybe" guilty of some wrong doings but in the end for me just need to weigh between this small wrong doings of Corona which in fact may not be impeacheable or a "yes" non independent Supreme Court. Many many more court cases that will need Supreme Court decisions may arise in the future....which may involve not only Hacienda Luisita but even our own/your own basic rights; and some other issues like what the government of Pnoy wanting to tax GSIS SSS contributions, and I believe we should at all cost and always have an independent Supreme Court...independent from Pnoy!
CJ Corona is already guilty according to him and he will be mudslinged conveniently anytime jejemoniac Yellowtards want, he is already proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt according to the court of Yellow Media.
remember, hypocritical Yellow Zombies aren't called as such for nothing.
they even humiliated and inhumanely put to jail the very person who is instrumental in improving the credit status of this country and with her competent economic fundamentals propelled its central bank as one of the best managed central bank in the world painstakingly cultivated through the years despite her very person attacked by antagonistic Oligarchs and their barbaric hoards of Yellow Media jejemonized Yellow Zombies, in which these hypocritical utak talangkas don't really deserve her good efforts for the country.
Dr. Richard Espeno February 22nd, 2012, 09:23 AM sadly in reality corruption is so deeply and widely incorporated in our politics and government....we need to be wise on choosing on who to impeach and prosecute otherwise no one will remain in the government, its like in our culture already that small favors done to get some favors in return are accepted as a norm, like bringing home some papers ballpens etc from government offices are also considered OK, like CJ having PAL platinum card and flying free... and i must admit this has to change....but like one opinion i read, you cannot burn the whole house because of termites! Pnoy have to be wise
betoy February 22nd, 2012, 10:08 AM sarap talaga maging CJ. libre sakay sa PAL, no wonder the FASAP workers got screwed.
wala talaga delicadeza itong si CJ. kapalmuks.
discount sa condo. libre sa eroplano. i wonder if libre din sa hotel eto.
kapal talaga mukha. idol ng karamihan dito. :)
tanong ko lang, gaano ba kamahal ang pamasahe sa PAL para maimpluwensyahan ang desisyon dun sa FASAP case? :lol: At ang tickets ha take note, Manila - Bacolod, Manila - Cebu... etc.. :rofl:
Kaya pala nasabihan ni JPE and prosec na "picking up evidences from the clouds" :lol:
Kung ganun, pede na pala tayo magka sala! Suhulan lang natin ng piso fare ticket ang judges ng korte suprema :lol:
LuckyLady February 22nd, 2012, 10:20 AM pag kontra partido walang delicadeza pag sarili/sariling tao "WALANG MASAMA" mag accept ng kung anu ano...
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/248965/ulatfilipino/balitangpinoy/palasyo-walang-masama-sa-free-hotel-stay-ng-pagcor-execs
At san kukunin ang 10Bilyon na ibabayad sa angkang COjuangco? Sa kaban ng bayan, syempre daming pera sa Pagcor at iba pang ahensya ng gobyerno :lol:
Kaya corona mag resign ka na kasi para maibigay na sa mga cojuangco ang 10bilyon at yung several millions para kay Tupas at mapalitan na si Binay ni Roxas :lol: O di ba masaya sila pag wala ng hadlang, korina dies dies laughing :lol:
BULLDOG February 22nd, 2012, 10:30 AM pag kontra partido walang delicadeza pag sarili/sariling tao "WALANG MASAMA" mag accept ng kung anu ano...
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/248965/ulatfilipino/balitangpinoy/palasyo-walang-masama-sa-free-hotel-stay-ng-pagcor-execs
At san kukunin ang 10Bilyon na ibabayad sa angkang COjuangco? Sa kaban ng bayan, syempre daming pera sa Pagcor at iba pang ahensya ng gobyerno :lol:
Kaya corona mag resign ka na kasi para maibigay na sa mga cojuangco ang 10bilyon at yung several millions para kay Tupas at mapalitan na si Binay ni Roxas :lol: O di ba masaya sila pag wala ng hadlang, korina dies dies laughing :lol:
malinaw pa sa sikat ng araw ang motibo ng impeachment na 'to na pakana ng malacanang :bash: :bash: kawawa naman 'tong mga tagapagsalita ni abnoy kong anu ano nalang ang kinakatwiran maipagtanggol lang ang presidenteng may kakards sa utak :bash:
skyion February 22nd, 2012, 11:38 AM Cayetano is behaving like a spokesperson for the prosecutor, he even answered in their interest that insinuates all SC justices may be subject to impeachment obviously treading on abusive ground.
kalbongdad February 24th, 2012, 02:23 AM oi iksi-an na daw ang impeachment baka magkaroon na ng public fatigue....hihihi........ nde kaya yung nakaupo sa malakanyang ang madaling ma fatigue.......baka na depress na at may humuhuni na na ibon sa isipan....:lol: palingun lingun na at baka may nakamasid sa kanya at sinusundan sya...:lol:...
Bosnyboy February 24th, 2012, 05:54 AM oi iksi-an na daw ang impeachment baka magkaroon na ng public fatigue....hihihi........ nde kaya yung nakaupo sa malakanyang ang madaling ma fatigue.......baka na depress na at may humuhuni na na ibon sa isipan....:lol: palingun lingun na at baka may nakamasid sa kanya at sinusundan sya...:lol:...
At sisigaw ng Basilio!!!!! Crispin!!!!!:lol:
kalbongdad February 24th, 2012, 06:45 AM hahaha:rofl: ..... grabe ka.....nag ala Sisa pala....:rofl:
skyion February 24th, 2012, 07:08 AM wnat a disgusting, incompetent this Oligarch puppet administration truly is, it has a gossip mongering DOJ secretary whose decisions only rely on HEARSAY :bash:
DISBAR her :bash:
Parchie February 24th, 2012, 07:11 AM wnat a truly disgusting, incompetent this Oligarch puppet administration is, it has a gossip mongering DOJ secretary whose decisions only rely on HEARSAY :bash:
DISBAR her :bash:
She is not practicing law now. So it doesn't hurt getting her DISBARRED!
She is now Pres. BSA III's cabinet member. Are you suggesting to "dis-member" her? Huh?
wino February 24th, 2012, 07:13 AM by dis-member... did you mean, chop off her limbs?
:omg:
absinthe_888 February 24th, 2012, 07:19 AM ^^ Well, de5 did get maximum media time. This will be useful for the senatorial elections next year.
hugodiekonig February 24th, 2012, 07:21 AM nakapagpresent uli ang prosecution ng hindi qualified na witness which is Sec. De Lima. she is not qualified as a witness dahil gaya ng sabi ni Sen. Miriam hearsay lang ang mga iyon dahil nag-rely lang si Sec. De Lima sa dissenting opinion ng isang justice (an opinion of a part is not always/does not follow to be the opinion of the whole already) at hindi naman siya nasa Supreme court noong mangyari ang pag-issue ng TRO sa travel ban ng mga Arroyo
hugodiekonig February 24th, 2012, 07:22 AM ni 11 exemptions sa hearsay rule ay hindi na-meet ng testimonies ng witness (sec. de lima)
Parchie February 24th, 2012, 07:22 AM by dis-member... did you mean, chop off her limbs?
:omg:
member ->dismember
bar ->disbar
own ->disown
belief ->disbelief
dis-
a Latin prefix meaning “apart,” “asunder,” “away,” “utterly,” or having a privative, negative, or reversing force; used freely, especially with these latter senses, as an English formative: disability; disaffirm; disbar; disbelief; discontent; dishearten; dislike; disown.
wino February 24th, 2012, 07:57 AM ^^ nge.. nag explain haha
siempre alam ko meaning nian.
I thought you had double meaning when you quoted it "dismember".. mukhang hinde hehe :lol:
skyion February 24th, 2012, 08:26 AM disgusting Oligarch puppet administration, do not be misled by their YELLOW DECEIT and HYPOCRISY and for the nation's true sake be continually discerning, kukote lang ng Yellow Jejemon ang kaya nilang paikutin at may katangahang kunsintihin ang Dilaw na kabalbalan nila.
DISBAR monger de Lima
CHARGE corrupt Tupas
SANCTION misbehaving Llamas
BOYCOTT media puppet ABiaS and OINKquirer
DISCREDIT bias SWS & Pulse Asia
IMPEACH incompetent Noynoy!!
Parchie February 24th, 2012, 08:27 AM ^^ nge.. nag explain haha
siempre alam ko meaning nian.
I thought you had double meaning when you quoted it "dismember".. mukhang hinde hehe :lol:
Mahirap na! Lam mo, merong crying babies dito, sumbong kaagad! Hahahaha! But you can try and swipe your mind on the the other edge as well. You'll never know if that side was honed sharp also! If you know what I meant.
Bosnyboy February 25th, 2012, 03:00 AM totally missing the point. accepting gifts and favors from one party litigant during the pendency of the FASAP case smack of what?
Same case as pnoy's best fren naguiat??
skyion February 27th, 2012, 02:58 AM Senators Destroy Sec. DeLima for Corona Impeachment Trial
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Juan Pilgrim February 27th, 2012, 06:24 AM “the rule of hearsay does not apply strictly in the impeachment court”
~Senate-President Juan Ponce Enrile
:horse:
skyion February 27th, 2012, 06:37 AM ^^ rejoice only after the Cojuangcos get back Hacienda Luisita which is the real agenda behind the Yellow Hypocrisy attack against the Justice System, so that you will take part of their crime.
absinthe_888 February 27th, 2012, 08:50 AM ^^ 2014 ang deadline diba? Tignan natin.
skyion February 27th, 2012, 09:17 AM ^^ 2014 ang deadline diba? Tignan natin.
Yes, by then it will be known who are the real enemies of the Tarlac farmers and of this Oligarch-sucked country.
coldfire083 February 27th, 2012, 09:40 AM Sobrang nakakahiya na mga alagad ni Aquinio sa impeachment. Kung gaano ka inutil ni Aquino ay ganon din mga kampon nya sa impeachement.
absinthe_888 February 27th, 2012, 10:11 AM ^^ Uyy cameraman ng ABS-CBN witness for the prosecution. :naughty:
skyion February 27th, 2012, 10:47 AM SINONG NILOLOKO 'NYO, ABS-CBN?
TAt56RXuwYk
KnightOfTheFlag February 27th, 2012, 11:29 AM Ganun ba....
“the rule of hearsay does not apply strictly in the impeachment court”
~Senate-President Juan Ponce Enrile
Eh heto sabi ni Pnoy eh all knowing Pure, Perfect, Pristine Pnoy...
Noy: Hearsay is valid evidence under political dimension
By Delon Porcalla (The Philippine Star) Updated February 27, 2012 12:00 AM Comments (192) View comments
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=781588&publicationSubCategoryId=63
:ohno::bash::ohno::ohno::bash::ohno::bash:
so pwede na palang gamitin ang tsismis sa korte....kita mo nga naman ang pambabastos na ginagawa ni Pnoy sa korte at batas natin....ang "HEARSAY" ay pwedeng maging ebidensya basta may political dimensions :ohno::ohno::ohno:...this is tantamount to witch hunt where political opponents of this and future admin can be prosecuted, convicted and jailed by mere "gossips or hearsay"...
kung ganun kapag na-impeach si pnoy pwede syang tanggalin with a mere "hearsay" that he is...
-Mentally challenged...
-Biased and unfair treatment...
-Incompetent and underachiever...
-Lazy, careless and indifferent...
-Liar and deceiver...
-Abusive of power and human rights violator...
-______________( open to your opinion or "hearsay")
.....Whoa! so Pnoy better be really careful now huh!! becuase if "hearsay" is now allowed in court then he doesnt stand a chance!!
skyion February 27th, 2012, 11:48 AM it should get the attention of Sen. Enrile that the concerned citizens (not pnoy/pnay) of this country disagree about the stand on HEARSAY for lack of merit.
YoungBeef February 27th, 2012, 01:21 PM Senators Destroy Sec. DeLima for Corona Impeachment Trial
ikAlh8Z5lxs
^^
Sen. Legarda is scary. :uh:
YoungBeef February 27th, 2012, 01:26 PM Ganun ba....
Eh heto sabi ni Pnoy eh all knowing Pure, Perfect, Pristine Pnoy...
Noy: Hearsay is valid evidence under political dimension
By Delon Porcalla (The Philippine Star) Updated February 27, 2012 12:00 AM Comments (192) View comments
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=781588&publicationSubCategoryId=63
:ohno::bash::ohno::ohno::bash::ohno::bash:
so pwede na palang gamitin ang tsismis sa korte....kita mo nga naman ang pambabastos na ginagawa ni Pnoy sa korte at batas natin....ang "HEARSAY" ay pwedeng maging ebidensya basta may political dimensions :ohno::ohno::ohno:...this is tantamount to witch hunt where political opponents of this and future admin can be prosecuted, convicted and jailed by mere "gossips or hearsay"...
kung ganun kapag na-impeach si pnoy pwede syang tanggalin with a mere "hearsay" that he is...
-Mentally challenged...
-Biased and unfair treatment...
-Incompetent and underachiever...
-Lazy, careless and indifferent...
-Liar and deceiver...
-Abusive of power and human rights violator...
-______________( open to your opinion or "hearsay")
.....Whoa! so Pnoy better be really careful now huh!! becuase if "hearsay" is now allowed in court then he doesnt stand a chance!!
^^
PNoy should really just keep his mouth shut regarding the Impeachment Trial. He's making himself look like a fool. :ohno:
sun-tex February 27th, 2012, 01:32 PM FOOL na talaga,hindi lang looks like
skyion February 27th, 2012, 01:36 PM FOOL na talaga,hindi lang looks like
in jejemon:
FooHLz
LuckyLady February 27th, 2012, 03:05 PM Ganun ba....
Eh heto sabi ni Pnoy eh all knowing Pure, Perfect, Pristine Pnoy...
Noy: Hearsay is valid evidence under political dimension
By Delon Porcalla (The Philippine Star) Updated February 27, 2012 12:00 AM Comments (192) View comments
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=781588&publicationSubCategoryId=63
:ohno::bash::ohno::ohno::bash::ohno::bash:
so pwede na palang gamitin ang tsismis sa korte....kita mo nga naman ang pambabastos na ginagawa ni Pnoy sa korte at batas natin....ang "HEARSAY" ay pwedeng maging ebidensya basta may political dimensions :ohno::ohno::ohno:...this is tantamount to witch hunt where political opponents of this and future admin can be prosecuted, convicted and jailed by mere "gossips or hearsay"...
kung ganun kapag na-impeach si pnoy pwede syang tanggalin with a mere "hearsay" that he is...
-Mentally challenged...
-Biased and unfair treatment...
-Incompetent and underachiever...
-Lazy, careless and indifferent...
-Liar and deceiver...
-Abusive of power and human rights violator...
-______________( open to your opinion or "hearsay")
.....Whoa! so Pnoy better be really careful now huh!! becuase if "hearsay" is now allowed in court then he doesnt stand a chance!!
pag kaaway kahit anong klaseng evidence, hearsay, illegally obtained evidenceS, etc. pedeng pede pero pag sariling tao "WALANG MASAMA!!!"
BULLDOG February 27th, 2012, 04:34 PM pag kaaway kahit anong klaseng evidence, hearsay, illegally obtained evidenceS, etc. pedeng pede pero pag sariling tao "WALANG MASAMA!!!"
ganyan talaga mag isip ang isang sira tuktok :bash: :bash: :lol:
YoungBeef February 27th, 2012, 06:13 PM FOOL na talaga,hindi lang looks like
in jejemon:
FooHLz
^^
I stand corrected. :rofl:
Parchie February 27th, 2012, 07:01 PM ^^
I stand corrected. :rofl:
akala ko may konting duda ka pa dyan! Hehehehe.
YoungBeef February 27th, 2012, 08:07 PM akala ko may konting duda ka pa dyan! Hehehehe.
^^
Binigyan ko lang si PNoy ng "presumption of not being a fool unless proven otherwise" pero hindi niya tinutulungan ang sarili niya e. :lol:
Gee Ens February 28th, 2012, 10:36 AM ^^ I'm starting to believe that there is really something very very Wrong with the leadership of our president. I used to give him every benefit of the doubt. :ohno:
absinthe_888 February 28th, 2012, 10:59 AM Prosecution to drop Articles 1,4,5,6,8 in the impeachment complaint vs. CJ Corona.
Asan na yung kahong-kahong "ebidensiya"? Ubos na?
Hindi ako pabor dito. Inumpisahan mo Tupak, tapusin nyo.
coldfire083 February 28th, 2012, 11:02 AM Thats it? Kapag naging guilty si Corona ay ewan ko nalang mangyayari sa Pilipinas. Halos hindi na kelangan ng defense maglabas ng ebidensiya or witness nila.
sun-tex February 28th, 2012, 11:10 AM mas maraming paratang ang di nila kayang panindigan, kayat ang puso ng taumbayan ay acquital
kong ako kay pnoy, ignore politics, go for development
yan lang ang paraan para bumango siya at di ma impeach o resign or di kaya mapilitan i abdicate ang throne niya, akala kasi niya hari siya eh
kalbongdad February 28th, 2012, 12:24 PM oh.....tigil na raw presentation of evidence ng prosec...tigil na...nde na kaya ang maya't mayang sabon ni sen miriam....:lol: ayawan na...... tinapat nila ang paglaglag ng puting bandila sa rally ng INC mukhang may konek ah....
hakz2007 February 28th, 2012, 03:06 PM http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426697_332293116806529_100000775308891_831436_1058126680_n.jpg
prosecution witness, ms. tiongson and cong. tupas sa kasalan
hinding-hindi pa po kami nagkikita, nagkita at nagkasama.. hindi po kami magkakilala.. - cong. tupazsource (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=332293116806529&set=a.102143749821468.4114.100000775308891&type=1&ref=nf)
Bosnyboy February 28th, 2012, 03:46 PM So its possible that it was ms tiongson who leaked the bank records?
Eastern Dragon February 28th, 2012, 04:00 PM Prosecution to drop Articles 1,4,5,6,8 in the impeachment complaint vs. CJ Corona.
Asan na yung kahong-kahong "ebidensiya"? Ubos na?
Hindi ako pabor dito. Inumpisahan mo Tupak, tapusin nyo.
:lol::lol::lol:
bro, i can't be totally sure but i remember saying that they will end the trial in march. december pa lang sinabi nila yan. 3-4 weeks ago, nagbigay sila ng tip that they will finish it by march.
i am actually surprised that people are surprised by this development. i knew this was coming, an abbreviated trial. consider the following developments.
1. after weeks of saying that corona will present evidence regarding his bank deposits, he filed a motion to suppress all info related to those accounts.
2. inalalayan ni jpe at joker, yes, the very same joker arroyo kanina ang motion ni tupas. binara pa nga niya si cuevas, regarding the right of the prosec to waive the articles.
3. what evidence will the defense present when they are suppressing evidence on the accounts sa psbank? the sc allowed the presentation of the peso but not the dollar. now, corona wants to have all those peso related accounts suppressed.
I think some of corona associates are doing a brutus on him already. :lol::lol::lol:
don't expect an acquittal bro. just saying.
sun-tex February 28th, 2012, 04:51 PM the evidence is not sufficient in substance, there is no guilt beyond reasonable doubt, this case is filed without even a single evidence on-hand but just f merely a fishing expedition,all evidence and witnesses are objectionable and no direct evidence to pin point CJ
if there is only a "ONE" clear and precise evidence, then i should say CJ will be impeached, but none of it even at this time will have a judgment regarding Impeachement without the defense witnesses and counter testimonies the verdict votes could not reach 12 votes to impeach CJ, this people are going to acquit CJ these are arroyo,defensor-santiago,villar,enrile,estrada,lapid,escudero,sotto and lastly MARCOS
don't you know that Enrile was the first target of aquino administration to remove from office?
ask your P. Drillon (as in PORK) of the underground plot in removing johny also known as or JAKA
sun-tex February 28th, 2012, 05:07 PM http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404942_3088641108445_1636473451_2653258_1670266134_n.jpg
absinthe_888 February 28th, 2012, 08:55 PM :lol::lol::lol:
bro, i can't be totally sure but i remember saying that they will end the trial in march. december pa lang sinabi nila yan. 3-4 weeks ago, nagbigay sila ng tip that they will finish it by march.
don't expect an acquittal bro. just saying.
Ang sakin lang Atty. ED, inumpisahan e, dapat tapusin. Hindi ko lang gusto yung nilaglag yung 5 articles.
Pero sabagay, wala naman impact sa tao yun if comapred mo sa SALN at $$$ accounts.
skyion February 28th, 2012, 09:20 PM http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz152/vl01/liar.jpg
SLAMAT (Father of Lies)LORRRD
(you know who that is)
http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s441/tambay_ng_recto2/DRILON-DRILOFF.jpg
PORK DRILON
3cr February 29th, 2012, 01:56 AM Deficiencies of our Amla
Manila Standard
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideBusinessop_mstd.htm?f=//2012/february/29/gerrygeronimo.isx&n=opinion&d=/2012/february/29
Lucky for Chief Justice Renato Corona, our Anti-Money Laundering Law is severely restricted and not compliant with international standards and best practice, otherwise, he would be in deep you-know-what.
The defects of our Amla were pointed out, to our national embarrassment, by the joint assessment team from the World Bank and the Asia/Pacific Group on Money Laundering in its mutual evaluation report, which was adopted by the APG in its plenary meeting last July 8, 2009, or almost three years ago. They need to be addressed right away.
For instance, our definition of the crime of money laundering recognizes only three modes of commission: (1) knowingly transacting or attempting to transact the money sought to be hidden; (2) knowingly facilitating such transaction or attempt at transaction; and (3) knowingly failing to disclose to the AMLC such transaction or attempt at transaction. Clearly, the obsession is with “transacting or attempting to transact” the money sought to be laundered, and no other. Specifically, outside of what present law considers criminal money laundering are acts, such as the (a) conversion (b) transfer (c) disposition (d) movement (e) acquisition (f) possession (g) use, (h) concealment and (i) disguise of the proceeds of the predicate crime.
As a result of this restricted definition of money laundering, Chief Justice Renato Corona cannot now be accused of money laundering, even if he undeniably withdrew from the Philippine Savings Bank on Dec. 12 last year, which was the very day that he was impeached by the House of Representatives, over P30 million in deposit accounts in his name for, say, the purpose of hiding them from the praying eyes of civil society.
Had our country, however, heeded to the full recommendation no. 1 of the Financial Action Task Force to criminalize money laundering as so defined by the Vienna and Palermo conventions of which our country is a party, his same withdrawals of said deposits would have suffered the stigma of money being laundered, since by so making said withdrawals, he undoubtedly transferred, moved, concealed, and disguised amounts that could not be adequately accounted for as having come to him by way income from duly reported legal sources, and, hence, ill-gotten.
The Vienna and Palermo conventions have identical proscriptions of acts that are mandated to be by law considered money laundering. Article 3 of the Vienna Convention of 1988 demands that its parties criminalize “the conversion or transfer of property... for the purpose of concealing or disguising the illicit origin of the property...” Article 6 of the Palermo Convention of 2000, for its part, also requires its signatories to make criminal “the conversion or transfer of property... for the purpose of concealing or disguising the illicit origin of the property...” In disregard of our international commitments, our law criminalizes only “transacting and attempting to transact” dirty money. Hence, Chief Justice Renato Corona can go scot-free — from money laundering, at least for now.
Aside from Chief Justice Renato Corona, there are other lawbreakers who are also beneficiaries of our very restricted Anti-Money Laundering Law. Our Amla mentions only 13 specific predicate offenses, i.e. offenses the proceeds from which are to be considered unclean money.
Not included in our list of predicate offenses are acts which the rest of the world considers as serious evils to be extirpated. These crimes which we, at this time, still fail to consider as money laundering’s predicate offenses are, to wit, (a) participating in an organized criminal group and racketeering (b) terrorism, including terrorist financing (c) trafficking in human beings and migrant smuggling (d) sexual exploitation, including sexual exploitation of children (e) fraud; (f) counterfeiting currency and (g) environmental crimes. Criminals committing any of the foregoing crimes are not, to date, considered money launderers even if they were to transact or attempt to transact the proceeds from any of the above crimes.
Not only is our law, as shown above, below international standards in terms of depth by virtue of the few acts considered as money laundering as well as in terms of the breadth of the number of crimes that are considered predicate offenses, our Amla is also deficient in the grant to our Anti-Money Laundering Council of the powers that it needs to do its job.
For instance, the AMLC must first prove “probable cause” that money is indeed related to an unlawful activity before it can be convince the court to issue a freeze or other provisional asset preservation order in a civil forfeiture case. The reality on the ground, however, is that, very often, at the time the AMLC gets wind, through a covered transaction or suspicious transaction report, of money laundering, the quantum of evidence required to establish “probable cause” is not yet in the hands of the AMLC. It needs time to complete its investigation. During the interregnum that is needed to assemble facts to prove probable cause, (a period which could fortunately be short or, on the other hand, be unfortunately too long depending on the complexity of each case) the unclean money has an opportunity to fly the coop.
Moreover, our Amla’s list of persons who are conscripted to report possible money laundering to AMLC is woefully incomplete. We do not impose reporting obligations on casinos, real estate agents, dealers in precious metals and in precious stones, lawyers, accountants, and other independent professionals, trust and company service providers, all of whom are in vantage positions to help spot money laundering in the offing. These professionals and corporate entities, being as they are the veritable gatekeepers of our common domicile and the logical guardians of the community well of our welfare, ought to shoulder part of the burden of protecting our currency flow from being contaminated or polluted by unclean money. After all, they, like banks and those entities presently covered, are direct beneficiaries of our effective money laundering regime.
All these failings — and more — in our present law, Senate Bill No. 2484 authored by Senator Sergio Osmeña III, seeks to remedy. I do hope that Congress makes time to pass it, soon. Otherwise, by the default of our leaders, our entire country of followers is likely to suffer.
Eastern Dragon February 29th, 2012, 05:57 AM Ang sakin lang Atty. ED, inumpisahan e, dapat tapusin. Hindi ko lang gusto yung nilaglag yung 5 articles.
Pero sabagay, wala naman impact sa tao yun if comapred mo sa SALN at $$$ accounts.
:lol::lol: well, its a legal strategy bro.
a lot of people were complaining na waster of taxpayers money etc. etc. aabot daw ng ilang taon, now bigla sila nag abbreviated trial, pikon ang defense.
kasi, what kind of defense will they put up? seriously, pure blanket denial?
corona was saying, and all his defenders, in due time he will answer the peso and dollar deposit issue.
ngayon, nag about face, pinapasuppress lahat. akala ko ba sasagutin at hindi magtatago?
Parchie February 29th, 2012, 06:23 AM mas maraming paratang ang di nila kayang panindigan, kayat ang puso ng taumbayan ay acquital
kong ako kay pnoy, ignore politics, go for development
yan lang ang paraan para bumango siya at di ma impeach o resign or di kaya mapilitan i abdicate ang throne niya, akala kasi niya hari siya eh
Very laudable yang sinasabi mo 'dre.
There are so many options for him to be great. Why continue making a name on one aspect when he could make his name itched in stone for generations to come by making this country economically great? History would be very kind to him if he goes for the development on our country, IMHO.
hakz2007 February 29th, 2012, 08:54 AM Ateneo Law School grad leads 1,913 Bar exam passers
A law graduate from the Ateneo Law School emerged on top of the 1,913 examinees who passed the 2011 Bar examinations held last November. Those who made it on the list comprise 31.95 percent of the 5,990 law graduates who took the test — the second highest passing rate since 2000.
Raoul Angelo Atadero from Ateneo emerged on top. Read more (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/249833/news/nation/ateneo-law-school-grad-leads-1-913-bar-exam-passers)
coldfire083 February 29th, 2012, 09:29 AM Wahhhhhh!!! planking!!!
Narnian_King February 29th, 2012, 10:34 AM http://s1-04.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/527553878.png?key=640480
Loser Aguiree
Bosnyboy February 29th, 2012, 11:14 AM Para silang mga unggoy, speak no evil, hear no evil
Eastern Dragon February 29th, 2012, 11:38 AM Para silang mga unggoy, speak no evil, hear no evil
better than do all evil aka coronarroyo, wouldn't you think? :lol:
BULLDOG February 29th, 2012, 12:00 PM better than do all evil aka coronarroyo, wouldn't you think? :lol:
bitter......ang dapat mong kasuklaman ay ang amo mong lumiliit lalo ang utak na dati nang maliit :bash: :lol: :lol:
BULLDOG February 29th, 2012, 12:03 PM http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404942_3088641108445_1636473451_2653258_1670266134_n.jpg
mga kamote talaga....mga kampo ng mga SINUNGALING :bash: :bash: lalo na si TUPAK na Tuta ni ABNOY :bash: :lol:
BULLDOG February 29th, 2012, 12:05 PM http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz152/vl01/liar.jpg
SLAMAT (Father of Lies)LORRRD
(you know who that is)
http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s441/tambay_ng_recto2/DRILON-DRILOFF.jpg
PORK DRILON
talagang napapatawa ako ng malakas :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
sun-tex February 29th, 2012, 12:10 PM Na contempt ba is Aguirre?
zephyr11 February 29th, 2012, 12:15 PM Na contempt ba is Aguirre?
Yep. Without any objections from any Senator. Sentence to be decided on a later date.
wolfdgreat February 29th, 2012, 12:22 PM Na contempt ba is Aguirre?
Pagbobotohan pa ata..
Para sa akin, dapat lang na ma contempt siya, dis respectful talaga yun ginawa nya. Dapat ang ginawa nya e, lumabas na lang muna, tapos gumawa cya ng written manifestation at pinasa nya sa lead prosecutor.
Pero, may tanong ako, normal ba sa isang korte na maglecture ang manigaw ang isang judge, o kaya magsabi ng nakakainsultong salita sa mga counsels or kahit sinong nasa loob ng court room?
amigo32 February 29th, 2012, 12:27 PM palagay ko oo:D kung bobita at pasaway lang:lol:
zephyr11 February 29th, 2012, 12:34 PM Pagbobotohan pa ata..
Para sa akin, dapat lang na ma contempt siya, dis respectful talaga yun ginawa nya. Dapat ang ginawa nya e, lumabas na lang muna, tapos gumawa cya ng written manifestation at pinasa nya sa lead prosecutor.
Pero, may tanong ako, normal ba sa isang korte na maglecture ang manigaw ang isang judge, o kaya magsabi ng nakakainsultong salita sa mga counsels or kahit sinong nasa loob ng court room?
Aguirre HAS been cited for contempt by the Senate President after the motion of Sen. Santiago seconded by Sen. Pia Cayetano. Ang pag-uusapan ng Senado ay ang parusang ipapataw.
sun-tex February 29th, 2012, 12:37 PM kahit mga 2 months sa city jail pwede na
wolfdgreat February 29th, 2012, 12:48 PM Aguirre HAS been cited for contempt by the Senate President after the motion of Sen. Santiago seconded by Sen. Pia Cayetano. Ang pag-uusapan ng Senado ay ang parusang ipapataw.
I see. I stand corrected.
MatudNilaBaby February 29th, 2012, 09:09 PM Aguirre HAS been cited for contempt by the Senate President after the motion of Sen. Santiago seconded by Sen. Pia Cayetano. Ang pag-uusapan ng Senado ay ang parusang ipapataw.
yung bunganga ni miriam defensor ang siyang naging dahilan kasi tinawag pa yong mga private prosecutor na stupid. she has been verbally abusive kong maka lecture siya. as a judge in this case you have to use caution with the way you reprimand lawyers. maski senator ka or judge ka you dont have the right or privilege to demean the other party before the decision is made. kung tulad ang ugali ni senator enrile kay miriam, bagsak na impeachment trial. kung hindi mapipigilan ang bunganga ni miriam dapat alisin siya sa trial na yan. its getting unfair and bias na sa other party.
at yan naman si cayetano, ang senadora nagtatawag nang stupid sa ibang lawyers nag second demotion pa. e sinong stupid ngayon?
Mercato February 29th, 2012, 09:18 PM kahit mga 2 months sa city jail pwede naare you kidding??? He might actually enjoy it. :lol: :lol:
skyion February 29th, 2012, 09:37 PM yung bunganga ni miriam defensor ang siyang naging dahilan kasi tinawag pa yong mga private prosecutor na stupid. she has been verbally abusive kong maka lecture siya. as a judge in this case you have to use caution with the way you reprimand lawyers. maski senator ka or judge ka you dont have the right or privilege to demean the other party before the decision is made. kung tulad ang ugali ni senator enrile kay miriam, bagsak na impeachment trial. kung hindi mapipigilan ang bunganga ni miriam dapat alisin siya sa trial na yan. its getting unfair and bias na sa other party.
at yan naman si cayetano, ang senadora nagtatawag nang stupid sa ibang lawyers nag second demotion pa. e sinong stupid ngayon?
eh, STUPID naman talaga ang pinag-gagawa ng Yellow prosecution, habang lumalala problema ng bansa sa pulpol at tutang pamalakad pero pinag-gagasta ng taxpayers' money at pinag-aksaya ang oras ng Senado sa mga akusasyong kulang naman pala sa ebidensya at nag-fishing expedition lang, mga ebidensyang basehan HEARSAY (tsismis) at opinyon lang, mga "tong"ressmen na binababoy impeachment document proceedings na di man lang binasa at pwe mas matinding mga kurakot pala, kahit senado nangangamoy na lalo na kay Pork Drilon et. al., halos pagsabungin pa ang Senate at Supreme court sa stupidity nila at kahit na ang bansa ay magkawatak-watak na alang-alang sa ombudsman acquittal ng kurakot na Tupas Sr. at interes ng gahamang Oligarkiya sa Hacienda Luisita! :ohno: :mad:
the stupid prosecution definitely needs a fiery opposition who's on the right side as Sen. Miriam Santiago and even the International Criminal Court deemed it noddingly to have such an individual on the fiery side of Truth, so keep it up Sen. Miriam, give the Yellow stupids more of your fiery tirades :yes: :okay: :yes:
the prosecution really lives up to representing a typical yellowta...er, pnoy
hypocritical, mudslinger, innately liar, utak talangka, narrowminded, stupid yet stubborn....
not surprising for one of the country's and soon the World's, more brilliant and intelligent politicians who obviously dislikes stubborn jejemoniac stupidity :nuts: which is the kind of leaders this Yellow Media jejemonized country infected with hepatitis definitely needs :okay:
it seems the Yellow Media is concocting some witches' brew against the lady Senator just as it did attacking her person before and branding her as "lunatic" that even caused her son to take his life.
whatever those Yellow witches' concoction are cooking, but this time may it BACKFIRE against the Yellow Media BIG TIME :bash:
296619 February 29th, 2012, 09:44 PM Congratulations to the new lawyers!
Congrats din sa 112 (out of 116) new Bedan lawyers!
@ eastern dragon, naalala ko dati exchanges natin dito before impeachment trial started. Mukhang naamoy din ng mga judges na may kasamang bad faith ang pagpapa-impeach kay Corona. Sobrang speculations lang talaga ang mga paratang kay Corona lalo na pag nakapagbigay na ng ebidensya ang depensa. IMO
skyion February 29th, 2012, 10:02 PM support Sen. Miriam, BOYCOTT Yellow Media and do not stop until it goes bankrupt and out of the country's print and airwaves!
NOVO ECIJANO February 29th, 2012, 10:31 PM support Sen. Miriam, BOYCOTT Yellow Media and do not stop until it goes bankrupt and out of the country's print and airwaves!
ang expectation ng prosecution team at ng yellow media mauulit ang nangyari kay erap sa kaso ni corona pero ang nangyari kabaligtaran.sila ang naging katawa-tawa.you cant fool the people all the time.sobrang dami ng kasalanan ng grupo na iyan.
skyion February 29th, 2012, 10:36 PM ang expectation ng prosecution team at ng yellow media mauulit ang nangyari kay erap sa kaso ni corona pero ang nangyari kabaligtaran.sila ang naging katawa-tawa.you cant fool the people all the times.sobrang dami ng kasalanan ng grupo na iyan.
INDEED.
MatudNilaBaby February 29th, 2012, 10:42 PM sen. enrile should censure sen. mirriam defensor for use of abusive language that can derail the impeachment trial. she is abusing her power as a judge.
Mercato February 29th, 2012, 11:06 PM Ateneo Law School grad leads 1,913 Bar exam passers
Read more (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/249833/news/nation/ateneo-law-school-grad-leads-1-913-bar-exam-passers)
None but the best. ;)
A law graduate from the Ateneo Law School emerged on top of the 1,913 examinees who passed the 2011 Bar examinations held last November. Those who made it on the list comprise 31.95 percent of the 5,990 law graduates who took the test — the second highest passing rate since 2000.
Raoul Angelo Atadero from Ateneo emerged on top.
Congratulations. :cheers2: :cheers2: :cheers2:
MatudNilaBaby February 29th, 2012, 11:11 PM None but the best. ;)
Congratulations. :cheers2: :cheers2: :cheers2:
diba nag study nang legal ethics ang mga abogado. mayron kaya niyan si sen. mirriam defensor?:cheers:
skyion February 29th, 2012, 11:15 PM sen. enrile should censure sen. mirriam defensor for use of abusive language that can derail the impeachment trial. she is abusing her power as a judge.
She is not abusing, she is differentiating the deceitful agenda of the Yellow prosecution as to whether it is done in "good faith" or in BAD FAITH.
obviously as an intelligent judge she is discerning the latter, it is being done in Bad Faith and it is the YELLOW PROSECUTORS WHO ARE ABUSING,
and with such has caused an affront against the Impeachment Court (excl. Pork Drilon and other stinky porkchops) and betrayal of public trust. As fiery a personality as she is, she still reflected the sentiment of those who truly represent TRUTH and such offenses deserves the fiery aspect of it, especially in a country infested by deceitful, sensationalist Yellow Media that has been producing jejemoniac mudslingers.
Now their deceitful abusive sides have finally met their match, and may they deservingly be consumed by her Fiery Truth. :bash:
Mercato February 29th, 2012, 11:22 PM diba nag study nang legal ethics ang mga abogado. mayron kaya niyan si sen. mirriam defensor?:cheers:I thought Senator Miriam Santiago was from UP?
MatudNilaBaby March 1st, 2012, 12:02 AM I thought Senator Miriam Santiago was from UP?
nag master pa nga nang international law sa ibang bansa yan but she is no match to the legal integrity of sen. enrile nor the former chief justice marcelo fernan who both did graduate studies of law abroad. ang master lang niya ay yung word na "stupid" at "gago" may ibang words naman diyan na less harsh and critical sa kapya niya abogado.
sinabi na nga niya from the start na walang sira sa utak niya after that medical check up she had. but my gulay ang language niya is very offensive not fit for a judge ni hindi pa nga natapos ang trial.
skyion March 1st, 2012, 12:33 AM don't worry about studying legal ethics as obviously she did that need not question, she knows what she's doing and she's most likely more intelligent in interpreting it than anybody accusing her here :lol: And if she happened to say it in this (Yellow) media sensationalized, jejemonized and hepatitis stricken country, she's right too in referring to the ABUSIVE YELLOW PROSECUTION as stupid and was it ginagago( ?) as their infamous actions really are, in a language that anybody in public whose trust is betrayed (excl. clueless pnoys) can understand. Finally someone has the temerity to finally say the obvious at these mudslinging, pork barrel bribed abusers.
She can defend those statements too.
sinabi na nga niya from the start na walang sira sa utak niya after that medical check up she had. but my gulay ang language niya is very offensive not fit for a judge ni hindi pa nga natapos ang trial.
what flimsy attempt at mudslinging her person, again.
right, it's just your gulay.
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 03:18 AM Pano kaya kung naging ganyan si mirriam sa ICC? Kahiya hiya ang pinas pag nagkataon.
KnightOfTheFlag March 1st, 2012, 03:39 AM Ano to? Trial By Publicity!!??
jUngGoMeyO8
I guess Sen Mriiam Defensor Santiago has the right to get angry....imagine doing a survey in a school about the trial and as the ABias CBN report says "susubukan iparating sa mga senator judges"...that's directly influencing the court, disregarding the trial itself and intimidating the senator judges....is this how our judiciary should work??...is this how we conduct our trial now and a precedent on how to convict the accused??....we always say " a person is innocent until proven guilty"...I guess now, with our destructive media spearheaded by Abias CBN we can reverse that saying completely to " A person is Guilty until proven innocent"....or.."a person is guilty because we said so" :ohno::ohno::ohno:
Dr. Richard Espeno March 1st, 2012, 03:42 AM eh talaga namang mga gago yang prosecution eh, bawiin ba naman ang natitirang kaso at sabihin na malakas at sapat na yung kasong naipresinta para maconvict si Corona....pangunahan ba ang Korte? sinasalamin lang ni merriam ang mga taong sawa, pagod at sobrang inis sa prosecution, isama na dyan si aquino!
KnightOfTheFlag March 1st, 2012, 03:48 AM ^^^^ SPOT ON!! nobody has the right to say that somebody is as good as guilty YET!!...only the judges has the right to say that AFTER HEARING BOTH SIDE OF THE STORY...they are trying to influence the court and sometimes directly intimidating the impeachment court itslef to rule a guilty verdict by saying " our evidence is solid so you should hand a Guilty verdict" :ohno::ohno:
skyion March 1st, 2012, 03:48 AM Pano kaya kung naging ganyan si mirriam sa ICC? Kahiya hiya ang pinas pag nagkataon.
The ICC is already aware of her temperament, that's why they chose her.
It's about high profile international criminals, you can't deal with such by speaking softly alone.
Her uncompromising, unwavering stand for what is right and truthful strengthened by undeniable intelligence and fiery disposition is something of caliber in a World seeking seeking for justice on crimes against Humanity. She has her own unconventional yet effective ways and need not seek the approval from mediocrity.
An electorate voting for an incompetent puppet by puppeteers that suck them and allowing to be witlessly manipulated by its media puppetry is shameful in itself to any country, at least there are individuals like Sen. Miriam to prove that not everyone in this country are as shamed as the former.
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wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 03:49 AM eh talaga namang mga gago yang prosecution eh, bawiin ba naman ang natitirang kaso at sabihin na malakas at sapat na yung kasong naipresinta para maconvict si Corona....pangunahan ba ang Korte? sinasalamin lang ni merriam ang mga taong sawa, pagod at sobrang inis sa prosecution, isama na dyan si aquino!
^^ di ba karapatan naman nila yun?
Ang alam ko kaya nila inurong e "sapat na yung kaso na yun para maipanalo nila ang kaso" at ayon iyon sa kanilang opinion.
Wala akong nakikitang pinapangunahan nila ang korte dun sa statement nila. Ang sinasabi nila e base sa kanilang paniniwala.
skyion March 1st, 2012, 03:54 AM eh talaga namang mga gago yang prosecution eh, bawiin ba naman ang natitirang kaso at sabihin na malakas at sapat na yung kasong naipresinta para maconvict si Corona....pangunahan ba ang Korte? sinasalamin lang ni merriam ang mga taong sawa, pagod at sobrang inis sa prosecution, isama na dyan si aquino!
you forgot the other description: stupid.
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 03:55 AM ^^^^ SPOT ON!! nobody has the right to say that somebody is as good as guilty YET!!...only the judges has the right to say that AFTER HEARING BOTH SIDE OF THE STORY...they are trying to influence the court and sometimes directly intimidating the impeachment court itslef to rule a guilty verdict by saying " our evidence is solid so you should hand a Guilty verdict" :ohno::ohno:
You are correct on saying that somebody is as good as guilty.
But nothing bad saying that you already gave enough evidence to win the case. Because that is in their own view. Sino ba aamin na mahina ebidencya nila?
It is highly different from what you have interpreted.
KnightOfTheFlag March 1st, 2012, 04:01 AM ^^^^ Maybe you should watch more of our manipulative media specially Abias CBN on how these prosecutors are saying that Corona is as good as guilty with the evidence thay have presented.....or better yet WATCH YOUR IDOL PNOY ON HOW HE HAS ALREADY REACH HIS VERDICT ON THE CASE AND HOW HE IS TRYING TO INFLUENCE AND INTIMIDATE THE COURT AND EVEN TRIES TO RALLY THE PEOPLE AGAINTS CORONA....even when he glaringly let Naguiat off the hook faster than lighting when he was implicated on the bribery in PAGCOR.
skyion March 1st, 2012, 04:08 AM Ano to? Trial By Publicity!!??
jUngGoMeyO8
I guess Sen Mriiam Defensor Santiago has the right to get angry....imagine doing a survey in a school about the trial and as the ABias CBN report says "susubukan iparating sa mga senator judges"...that's directly influencing the court, disregarding the trial itself and intimidating the senator judges....is this how our judiciary should work??...is this how we conduct our trial now and a precedent on how to convict the accused??....we always say " a person is innocent until proven guilty"...I guess now, with our destructive media spearheaded by Abias CBN we can reverse that saying completely to " A person is Guilty until proven innocent"....or.."a person is guilty because we said so" :ohno::ohno::ohno:
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Sen. Miriam Defensor Santiago: The Yellow Prosecution is an INSULT to the intelligence of educated Filipinos.
AGREES.
(referring to Filipinos ha, not pnoys.)
Sen. Miriam was interviewed by GMA morning show this morning. She revealed that the exhibitionist Yellow lawyer who covered his ear used to sit in the audience chair and keeps making noisy remarks against Sen. Miriam for others to hear. Then, to the senators' surprise, the said unknown lawyer sat in the prosecution table in the next session, making a show with the infamous gesture for the Yellow Media to focus as if in a deliberate and orchestrated drama shoot.
DISBAR that Yellow lawyer together with mongerer De Lima!
This Yellow Media have already mocked the country's Judiciary System. Together with its abusive coverage of the Quirino hostaging that profited video coverage to sell to international outlets compromising a crucial situation at the expense of the deaths of foreign tourists, this YELLOW MEDIA should be charged of CRIMES against Humanity to the International Court!
Mercato March 1st, 2012, 04:18 AM diba nag study nang legal ethics ang mga abogado. mayron kaya niyan si sen. mirriam defensor?:cheers:The bigger question in my mind would be, is there any semblance of ethics at all from the side of the prosecution panel, hmmm? ;)
Now how does that post fit into my congratulatory post about the Bar Exams?
nag master pa nga nang international law sa ibang bansa yan but she is no match to the legal integrity of sen. enrile nor the former chief justice marcelo fernan who both did graduate studies of law abroad. ang master lang niya ay yung word na "stupid" at "gago" may ibang words naman diyan na less harsh and critical sa kapya niya abogado.
sinabi na nga niya from the start na walang sira sa utak niya after that medical check up she had. but my gulay ang language niya is very offensive not fit for a judge ni hindi pa nga natapos ang trial.Even in the earlier vid we commented on several pages ago, we already knew the prosecution are gunning for a Trial by Publicity Circus.
Audacious statements had emanated from their sympathizers such as these:
1. That the accused is guilty until proven innocent. Further, that the accused must prove himself innocent.
2. That hearsay must be admissible as evidence.
The purveyors of these are indeed discombobulated.
Now can we really blame Miriam?
Eastern Dragon March 1st, 2012, 04:21 AM Congratulations to the new lawyers!
Congrats din sa 112 (out of 116) new Bedan lawyers!
@ eastern dragon, naalala ko dati exchanges natin dito before impeachment trial started. Mukhang naamoy din ng mga judges na may kasamang bad faith ang pagpapa-impeach kay Corona. Sobrang speculations lang talaga ang mga paratang kay Corona lalo na pag nakapagbigay na ng ebidensya ang depensa. IMO
congrats to all lawyers. careful ka pag sumali ka ba sa delta rho.
on topic. bad faith is an irrelevant concept imo in a political exercise. bad faith in what? filing? the ruling party considers him as an obstacle in its fight against corruption, when cases where filed against merceditas, gloria, all midnight appointees.
aquino was just being true to his word and fulfilling his promise. the fact that 188 congressmen signed is a testament to aquino ability to marshall resources with the coercive powers of his position, being the chief executive of the land. do you want a president that a lowliest clerk will not even respect or fear? that will be a laughable scenario indeed. :lol:
on the hope that the defense will present a lot of evidence, don't keep your hopes up. under the radar, and amidst corona and his lawyers rantings that they will present evidence in due course, they filed a motion to suppress all evidence related to that.
both are contradictory tactics, how can you present evidence, to controvert something that they want to be stricken from the court as if it did not exist.
they will just cite exclusionary rule and on that basis ask for an acquittal based on a technicality. :lol::lol:
defense by suppression of evidence and not by controverting evidence? :ohno::ohno:
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 04:21 AM ^^^^ Maybe you should watch more of our manipulative media specially Abias CBN on how these prosecutors are saying that Corona is as good as guilty with the evidence thay have presented.....or better yet WATCH YOUR IDOL PNOY ON HOW HE HAS ALREADY REACH HIS VERDICT ON THE CASE AND HOW HE IS TRYING TO INFLUENCE AND INTIMIDATE THE COURT AND EVEN TRIES TO RALLY THE PEOPLE AGAINTS CORONA....even when he glaringly let Naguiat off the hook faster than lighting when he was implicated on the bribery in PAGCOR.
I answered based on your statement
" our evidence is solid so you should hand a Guilty verdict"
Narnian_King March 1st, 2012, 04:23 AM I believe si No hear evil aguirre si wolfdgreat lol
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 04:26 AM The bigger question in my mind would be, is there any semblance of ethics at all from the side of the prosecution panel, hmmm? ;)
Now how does that post fit into my congratulatory post about the Bar Exams?
Even in the earlier vid we commented on several pages ago, we already knew the prosecution are gunning for a Trial by Publicity Circus.
Audacious statements had emanated from their sympathizers such as these:
1. That the accused is guilty until proven innocent. Further, that the accused must prove himself innocent.
2. That hearsay must be admissible as evidence.
The purveyors of these are indeed discombobulated.
Now can we really blame Miriam?
It is not actually blaming Miriam. Siguro nga natural na mag sermon. But the question is does she have priviledge of insulting the prosecution inside the court with high vioce and very degrading manner?
How come nuong napabalita yung panunuhol sa mga judges e, di ganun katindi ang mga reactions nya?
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 04:28 AM I believe si No hear evil aguirre si wolfdgreat lol
You better read few pages back.
Narnian_King March 1st, 2012, 04:29 AM Seriously Tupas and the gang r hilarious! they r crazy! Sen. Miriam just speaking facts and the truth then so be it. None of Tupas Gang have proven facts for any of the statements made to the Impeachment Court so they became laughing stock to the world.
Mercato March 1st, 2012, 04:40 AM It is not actually blaming Miriam. Siguro nga natural na mag sermon. But the question is does she have priviledge of insulting the prosecution inside the court with high vioce and very degrading manner?
How come nuong napabalita yung panunuhol sa mga judges e, di ganun katindi ang mga reactions nya?We are awaiting for a fair and square trial - with bated breath if I may. We dont need any Trial by Publicity Circus.
Does the prosecution have the privilege of presenting half witted tactics and wasting time and money with their never ending beating around the bush and bending the law as they see fit? Now a school survey, what next ...
Do you believe in hearsay? Do you believe that every tom, dick and harry is automatically guilty with the very first accusation streaming down the pike?
KnightOfTheFlag March 1st, 2012, 04:48 AM You are correct on saying that somebody is as good as guilty.
But nothing bad saying that you already gave enough evidence to win the case. Because that is in their own view. Sino ba aamin na mahina ebidencya nila?
It is highly different from what you have interpreted.
TnRwl0NhUng
Sen Santiago : "kung anu-ano pinagsasabi nyo sa media bakit hindi kayo mag-official manifestation dito...MANALO NA KAMI MERON NA KAMING PROOF BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT"...Good grief THAT IS CONTEMPT OF COURT!!"...03.35
Bosnyboy March 1st, 2012, 04:54 AM Though i agree in everything sen miriam presented during yest's hearing, i cant agree with the manner she said it. But i understand her since she is suffering from hypertension. People like that usually are short tempered, one reason is difficulty in breathing. But it can be managed with maintenance drugs. Anyways the prosecution did deserve all the berrating, insults that came their way. They wasted precious time, resources, and tax money which could have been used for development. But the biggest accomplishment of this impeachment trial is that the prosection and pnoy succeeded in dividing the nation.
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 04:55 AM ^^
Prosecution indeed have some issues that they need to answer and that will probably affect their case.
But the thing is, is it proper for the Judges to go below the ethical standards just to advise the prosecution for their performances?
skyion March 1st, 2012, 04:57 AM ^^ Sen. Miriam Santiago: The (Yellow) Prosecution has been in BAD FAITH all along.
AGREES.
This hypocritical, mudslinging, mongering, pork barrel corrupt Yellow Prosecution is a threat to the MORALS and VALUES of this country.
wolfram74 March 1st, 2012, 04:59 AM TnRwl0NhUng
Sen Santiago : "kung anu-ano pinagsasabi nyo sa media bakit hindi kayo mag-official manifestation dito...MANALO NA KAMI MERON NA KAMING PROOF BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT"...Good grief THAT IS CONTEMPT OF COURT!!"...03.35
i agree 100%...ang yabang yabang kasi ng prosecution. ganadong ganado magpresent ng evidence sa media...pero sa impeachment court mismo, gusto nang magwithdraw sa 5 articles of impeachment??? what's going on in these people's brains?? :bash::bash:
KnightOfTheFlag March 1st, 2012, 05:06 AM I agree she went overboard on that "gago" thing but I can see she is really passionate about her job and the significance and importance of the court and this trial...the prosecution is trying to bring out to the public this trial, backstabbing and badmouthing some judges to the public, resorting to dirty tricks...like i said before INTIMIDATING and INFLUENCING the court...which is very disrespectful when your the judge as in undermines and underestimate your ability to conduct the trial and hand in a wise ( sometimes unpopular ) verdict...
Parchie March 1st, 2012, 05:19 AM How could I describe it?
Inside the courtroom they look weak even meek as a sheep when reprimanded of their inability to push for evidence; in front of the TV klieg lights,they're like victors showing their strength (verbosity).
It's plain and simple that they wanted to win the hearing outside of the courts. They can't fool the lawyers inside the impeachment court, so they will fool the public and try to get a guilty verdict from trial by publicity!
Is the public "dumb, irrational, unable to choose properly, or gullible enough, etc"? That remains to be seen, especially on this case.
skyion March 1st, 2012, 05:29 AM ^^ I don't always see how the Prosecution from Hepatitis Camp manipulate their yellow zombie viewers on ABiaS as I already boycotted that thing.
but if in case I happen to check on that channel regarding such expected allegation, I'll make sure to recall their advertising sponsors so I would boycott those too.
those into it may also do the same.
Dr. Richard Espeno March 1st, 2012, 05:40 AM ^^ di ba karapatan naman nila yun?
Ang alam ko kaya nila inurong e "sapat na yung kaso na yun para maipanalo nila ang kaso" at ayon iyon sa kanilang opinion.
Wala akong nakikitang pinapangunahan nila ang korte dun sa statement nila. Ang sinasabi nila e base sa kanilang paniniwala.
karapatan nilang isipin ang gusto nilang isipin, pero wala silang karapatan sabihin yan sa publiko/media habang umaandar pa ang kaso...ang ating mga karapatan ay hindi absolute sir
s_w_stars March 1st, 2012, 05:51 AM I can empathize with her frustration. Sen Santiago nailed it in one word: frivolous. I remember another term used by a friend's lawyer, to describe a suit a friend had to face: vexatious litigation (legal action which is brought, regardless of its merits, solely to harass or subdue an adversary.) I can understand her outrage, her sense of frustration for having to put on that robe everytime, and spend time to read pages and pages of something that the prosecutors willy nilly put together, and to pre-empt the Impeachment Court with their pronouncement. Aren't the players in court supposed to refrain from prejudging and commenting on a case?
Juan Pilgrim March 1st, 2012, 05:52 AM I do not always find Miriam's tantrums appealing but this time seems to be right on cue.
This proceeding has sunk into an empty charade; Tupas and Aguirre displayed unnecessary childish affectation during
Santiago's speech in the video.
I have the least regards for these kind of people who has nothing but unsubstantiated arrogance and chutzpah!!!
:horse:
skyion March 1st, 2012, 06:06 AM ^^ Tupas the son of a corrupt politician gestured before at Atty. Cuevas showing the didn't like being lectured, and this spokesperson of the contemptuous, unethical Yellow Prosecution was showing it again on that video and even made a smirking face.
he manifested the usual arrogance, stupidity typical of a Yellowtar...er pnoy.
Dr. Richard Espeno March 1st, 2012, 06:15 AM wag na silang magalit kay Merriam, ipinahatid ko lang yung message na " Gago" yang mga prosecutors.....isipin na lang nila na si Merriam bilang senador ay halal ng buong bayan, at nirerepresent niya kaming mga taong bumuto sa kanya, kaya kami yung nagsabi na "Gago" yang mga prosecutors...
296619 March 1st, 2012, 06:37 AM @Eastern Dragon, sorry hindi ako brod ni Delimma at nung newly appointed NBI director.. :)
Haha? Political exercise? Haha... So talagang naniniwala kang political exercise or quasi-political ang exercise ang impeachment. Kaya pala hindi marunong ng trial procedure ang mga taong nagsasalita sa prosecution. Katawa naman. Dapat alam mo yun manong Eastern Dragon. Lawyer din po kayo di po ba? Diba nga naglecture dyan si Miriam Santiago kahapon.:) Kaya pala dinadaan ng prosec sa trial by publicity ang impeachment. :)
296619 March 1st, 2012, 06:54 AM May proof naman si Miriam para tawagin o bigkasin ang salitang "GAGO". Saan, ka naman. Lahat naman ng proc nakakaintindi ng batas pero kung humarap sa impeachment court parang hindi naman at parang ginawang laro ang trial. Tama naman si Miriam sa mga presumptions, ang pagbatikos nya sa mga actuations ng active prosec lawyers. Binabalewala ang mga procedures na inilagay ng batas para mapangalagaan ang substantial rights ng tao.
Eastern Dragon March 1st, 2012, 07:05 AM @Eastern Dragon, sorry hindi ako brod ni Delimma at nung newly appointed NBI director.. :)
Haha? Political exercise? Haha... So talagang naniniwala kang political exercise or quasi-political ang exercise ang impeachment. Kaya pala hindi marunong ng trial procedure ang mga taong nagsasalita sa prosecution. Katawa naman. Dapat alam mo yun manong Eastern Dragon. Lawyer din po kayo di po ba? Diba nga naglecture dyan si Miriam Santiago kahapon.:) Kaya pala dinadaan ng prosec sa trial by publicity ang impeachment. :)
of course, those who are insisting that the impeachment process is a criminal trial and needs proof beyond reasonable doubt is conditioning the public to insist on a level of evidence not required. simple, if it is a criminal case, with strict adherence to rules on technicality, then, why is the punishment removal from office and not imprisonment? this is something that people need to understand.
prosecution members are lawyers who have not practiced in years, kaya expected yan that they are not as sharp. parang basketbolista din yan na hindi na nakapaglaro ng sampong taon, you might know the basic but the intricacies and dexterity, nakakalimutan mo na.
publicity is part and parcel of trial my friend, without publicity, how can you then sway public opinion. and lets not sanctimonious here, what side was it again who called for a PRESSCON to announce that senator judges are being offered 100m per vote.
both parties are guilty of it. anyone claiming otherwise needs to have his head examined. :lol::lol::lol:
Eastern Dragon March 1st, 2012, 07:12 AM May proof naman si Miriam para tawagin o bigkasin ang salitang "GAGO". Saan, ka naman. Lahat naman ng proc nakakaintindi ng batas pero kung humarap sa impeachment court parang hindi naman at parang ginawang laro ang trial. Tama naman si Miriam sa mga presumptions, ang pagbatikos nya sa mga actuations ng active prosec lawyers. Binabalewala ang mga procedures na inilagay ng batas para mapangalagaan ang substantial rights ng tao.
as officers of the court, both the judge and the counsels are expected to show decorum. the judge is allowed to lecture on procedural matters, no question about that.
but a judge powers has restrictions, he certainly cannot call parties, litigants and lawyers gago, bobo, tarantado in open court.
if you have taken up legal and judicial ethics, you would know that. if I remember it right, a judge was reprimanded by the SC for telling a counsel that since he is a UP graduate and the counsel was not, the level of knowledge was disparate. something to that effect. without even directly saying na mas matalino ako kasi UP grad ako at ikaw hindi, an administrative case was filed against him.
what more against a judge calling a counsel or litigant bobo/gago/tarantado.
it does not happen in court rooms bro. and it should never happen.
i wonder if madman miriam will have the guts to pull off such antics in the ICC. :lol:
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 07:38 AM May proof naman si Miriam para tawagin o bigkasin ang salitang "GAGO". Saan, ka naman. Lahat naman ng proc nakakaintindi ng batas pero kung humarap sa impeachment court parang hindi naman at parang ginawang laro ang trial. Tama naman si Miriam sa mga presumptions, ang pagbatikos nya sa mga actuations ng active prosec lawyers. Binabalewala ang mga procedures na inilagay ng batas para mapangalagaan ang substantial rights ng tao.
maybe she has a proof.. but she doesnt have the right..
it is the same way that the counsels on both parties could have the proof, but still should not disrespect the court.
skyion March 1st, 2012, 07:40 AM as officers of the court, both the judge and the counsels are expected to show decorum. the judge is allowed to lecture on procedural matters, no question about that.
but a judge powers has restrictions, he certainly cannot call parties, litigants and lawyers gago, bobo, tarantado in open court.
if you have taken up legal and judicial ethics, you would know that. if I remember it right, a judge was reprimanded by the SC for telling a counsel that since he is a UP graduate and the counsel was not, the level of knowledge was disparate. something to that effect. without even directly saying na mas matalino ako kasi UP grad ako at ikaw hindi, an administrative case was filed against him.
what more against a judge calling a counsel or litigant bobo/gago/tarantado.
it does not happen in court rooms bro. and it should never happen.
i wonder if madman miriam will have the guts to pull off such antics in the ICC. :lol:
pfft.
that's unjust and untruthful, the Yellow(ta..) Prosecution are behaving like bobo/ gago/ tarantado and a judge cannot describe them exactly as such? :ohno:
prosecution members are lawyers who have not practiced in years, kaya expected yan that they are not as sharp. parang basketbolista din yan na hindi na nakapaglaro ng sampong taon, you might know the basic but the intricacies and dexterity, nakakalimutan mo na.
parang dinapuan ng hepatitis ang lame excuse na yan.
why, you can relate with that?
296619 March 1st, 2012, 07:41 AM Kahit naman sir proof beyond reasonable doubt o di kaya clear and convincing evid ang weight, expected sa bawat appearing counsel na alam nya ang rules of procedure specially sa trial. Dapat hindi nalang tinangap ng prosec ang job nila kung hindi naman nila kayang tugunan ang responsibilities. Hindi valid excuse ang dahil matagal na silang hindi nagprapractice at dahil sila ay member ng lower house e dapat hindi na nila alam ang rules. Kasama din yan sa Legal Ethics, kasama nga yan sa lawyer's oath e. Sa paulit ulit ba namang violation ng prosec sa rules, lalo na yung mga rules na ginawa to protect substantial right, aba e talagang mapapagalitan sila ng judge.
Malakas ang loob ni Miriam na magmura dahil once na nyang ginawa yan laban sa Supreme Court, pero covered sya ng legislative privilege ng ginawa nya iyun.
296619 March 1st, 2012, 07:45 AM Kung ako man ang nasa position ni Miriam, magagalit talaga ako but not to use words like "GAGO"... Although naiintindihan ko yung galit nya pero naubusan sya ng salita ng masambit nya ang katagang iyun. Haha...
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 07:46 AM Kahit naman sir proof beyond reasonable doubt o di kaya clear and convincing evid ang weight, expected sa bawat appearing counsel na alam nya ang rules of procedure specially sa trial. Dapat hindi nalang tinangap ng prosec ang job nila kung hindi naman nila kayang tugunan ang responsibilities. Hindi valid excuse ang dahil matagal na silang hindi nagprapractice at dahil sila ay member ng lower house e dapat hindi na nila alam ang rules. Kasama din yan sa Legal Ethics, kasama nga yan sa lawyer's oath e. Sa paulit ulit ba namang violation ng prosec sa rules, lalo na yung mga rules na ginawa to protect substantial right, aba e talagang mapapagalitan sila ng judge.
Malakas ang loob ni Miriam na magmura dahil once na nyang ginawa yan laban sa Supreme Court, pero covered sya ng legislative privilege ng ginawa nya iyun.
yung pag mumura ba pag judge at pag sermon in a degrading manner e kasama din sa Legal Ethics?
Granted may mga shortcomings.. Kung pinapagalitan mo ang mga prosecution.. di ibig sabihin nun e exempted ka na sa legal ethics..
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 07:52 AM Code of Judicial Conduct
RULE 2.01 - A judge should so behave at all times as to promote public confidence in the integrity and impartiality of the judiciary.
RULE 3.04 - A judge should be patient, attentive, and courteous to lawyers, especially the inexperienced, to litigants, witnesses, and others appearing before the court. A judge should avoid unconsciously falling into the attitude of mind that the litigants are made for the courts, instead of the courts for the litigants.
All judges shall strictly comply with this Code.
Eastern Dragon March 1st, 2012, 07:53 AM Kahit naman sir proof beyond reasonable doubt o di kaya clear and convincing evid ang weight, expected sa bawat appearing counsel na alam nya ang rules of procedure specially sa trial. Dapat hindi nalang tinangap ng prosec ang job nila kung hindi naman nila kayang tugunan ang responsibilities. Hindi valid excuse ang dahil matagal na silang hindi nagprapractice at dahil sila ay member ng lower house e dapat hindi na nila alam ang rules. Kasama din yan sa Legal Ethics, kasama nga yan sa lawyer's oath e. Sa paulit ulit ba namang violation ng prosec sa rules, lalo na yung mga rules na ginawa to protect substantial right, aba e talagang mapapagalitan sila ng judge.
Malakas ang loob ni Miriam na magmura dahil once na nyang ginawa yan laban sa Supreme Court, pero covered sya ng legislative privilege ng ginawa nya iyun.
trillanes was interviewed this am and he admitted na kung sa kanya gagawin yun, he would have done the same thing and will not take it sitting down. that gives you an indication.
besides, if you review how this case was supposed to go, it was private prosecutors and not the congressmen who should do all the work similar to what happened sa erap case.
kinontra if i am not mistaken by the defense and insisted that it should be public prosecutors and not the private prosecutors doing the hard part.
private prosecutors work was limited to presentation of witnesses. :lol::lol::lol:
when you become a lawyer and a judge calls you bobo/tarantado/gago, let me know how you would react. deal? :cheers:
skyion March 1st, 2012, 07:54 AM Kung ako man ang nasa position ni Miriam, magagalit talaga ako but not to use words like "GAGO"... Although naiintindihan ko yung galit nya pero naubusan sya ng salita ng masambit nya ang katagang iyun. Haha...
maybe she can try honing what I'd term as, uh, "diverted expletive" :lol:
used to habit the word sh_t! (darn those stupid hollywood movies) until I trained myself (still trying tho) to divert it so as to instinctively cuss shirt! instead :okay:
maybe next time she can try gata't goto! when encountering some arrogantly stupid yellowta... :nuts:
Eastern Dragon March 1st, 2012, 07:56 AM Code of Judicial Conduct
RULE 2.01 - A judge should so behave at all times as to promote public confidence in the integrity and impartiality of the judiciary.
RULE 3.04 - A judge should be patient, attentive, and courteous to lawyers, especially the inexperienced, to litigants, witnesses, and others appearing before the court. A judge should avoid unconsciously falling into the attitude of mind that the litigants are made for the courts, instead of the courts for the litigants.
All judges shall strictly comply with this Code.
you have a highly analytical mind wolf. :cheers:
i am sure you are a successful man in real life. :cheers:
in no way are judges allowed to call litigants and counsels degrading words.
[jeyps] March 1st, 2012, 07:56 AM I have no idea how the court proceedings goes on but I think what Mirriam was trying to convey is that the prosecution is weak (I have a feeling that Mirriam is in favor with Corona). With Vitaliano Aguirre, as a prosecutor, he made the right thing. It may signal that Mirrian is too much or maybe exaggerating. So parang Malaysia Tigers at Philippine Azkals sila.. pareho may puntos. heheehe:lol:
Eastern Dragon March 1st, 2012, 08:01 AM http://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri2008/jun2008/am_rtj-08-2119_2008.html
an important and relatively recent decision pertaining to judges conduct towards counsels.
i suggest everyone should read this.
UP (judge) vs. MLQU (counsel)
A judge must address the merits of the case and not on the person of the counsel. If respondent felt that his integrity and dignity were being "assaulted," he acted properly when he directed complainant to explain why he should not be cited for contempt. He went out of bounds, however, when he, as the above-quoted portions of the transcript of stenographic notes show, engaged on a supercilious legal and personal discourse.
This Court has reminded members of the bench that even on the face of boorish behavior from those they deal with, they ought to conduct themselves in a manner befitting gentlemen and high officers of the court.17
Respondent having exhibited conduct unbecoming of a judge, classified as a light charge under Section 10, Rule 140 of the Revised Rules of Court, which is penalized under Section 11(c) of the same Rule by any of the following: (1) a fine of not less than P1,000 but not exceeding P10,000; (2) censure; (3) reprimand; and (4) admonition with warning, the Court imposes upon him the penalty of reprimand.
WHEREFORE, respondent, Judge Medel Arnaldo B. Belen, Presiding Judge of the Regional Trial Court, Branch 36, Calamba City, is found GUILTY of conduct unbecoming of a judge and is REPRIMANDED therefor. He is further warned that a repetition of the same or similar act shall be dealt with more severely.
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 08:04 AM I'm afraid the real issue on Corona is lost.
It still puzzles me how come there are so many Filipinos who are in favor of corruption to thrive in this country.
As in my earlier posts, I don't care if all the congressmen and senators or all government officials in any political affiliation shall be charged with graft and corruption as long as we get rid of this disease that has afflicted the entire nation for so long as I remember. :ohno:
Eastern Dragon March 1st, 2012, 08:08 AM I'm afraid the real issue on Corona is lost.
It still puzzles me how come there are so many Filipinos who are in favor of corruption to thrive in this country.
As in my earlier posts, I don't care if all the congressmen and senators or all government officials in any political affiliation shall be charged with graft and corruption as long as we get rid of this disease that has afflicted the entire nation for so long as I remember. :ohno:
impeachment. its more fun in the philippines.
ok to have thief justice with hundreds of millions of pesos in cash alone, kahit undeclared.
distorted values. :lol::lol: sa distortion pa lang nyan, tax evasion na si thief justice nyan eh. :lol:
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 08:11 AM I'm afraid the real issue on Corona is lost.
It still puzzles me how come there are so many Filipinos who are in favor of corruption to thrive in this country.
As in my earlier posts, I don't care if all the congressmen and senators or all government officials in any political affiliation shall be charged with graft and corruption as long as we get rid of this disease that has afflicted the entire nation for so long as I remember. :ohno:
Because they themselves are corrupt.
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 08:16 AM Because they themselves are corrupt.
Yeah, I know, so, where shall we start? I believe Corona and some of the Senator Judges are equally corrupt but there is a case filed against the CJ, so we do it, one case at a time, right? Next case: whoever is charged, then it should be tried/litigated.
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 08:17 AM impeachment. its more fun in the philippines.
ok to have thief justice with hundreds of millions of pesos in cash alone, kahit undeclared.
distorted values. :lol::lol: sa distortion pa lang nyan, tax evasion na si thief justice nyan eh. :lol:
I'm saddened that the righteous Pinoys' quest for a just and corrupt free country is lost in the horizon....
If there are cases against Aquino's officials, then they should be charged.....I am not particular on political affiliation, as long as there are corrupt officials, CHARGE them.
anone March 1st, 2012, 08:22 AM you have a highly analytical mind wolf. :cheers:
i am sure you are a successful man in real life. :cheers:
in no way are judges allowed to call litigants and counsels degrading words.
sige ipagpatuloy nyo lang ang pagiging tupperware nyo. :D :lol:
Eastern Dragon March 1st, 2012, 08:25 AM Yeah, I know, so, where shall we start? I believe Corona and some of the Senator Judges are equally corrupt but there is a case filed against the CJ, so we do it, one case at a time, right? Next case: whoever is charged, then it should be tried/litigated.
start with the big fish, high government officials and businessmen. :banana::banana: to set as an example and deterrent to the smaller fishes.
that is why i have always been for the trial of government officials like corona.
isunod si tupas, or si drilon or si miriam kung kailangan.
with gma, ampatuan, abalos, corona already in hot water. with ex-generals suddenly rediscovering honor and integrity, we are on the right path.
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 08:25 AM sige ipagpatuloy nyo lang ang pagiging tupperware nyo. :D :lol:
So do you agree na pag Judge ka e pwede ka ng magmura at mag degrade ng kahit sino?
If that what makes a man.. then mas gugustuhin ko na maging tupperware.
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 08:35 AM start with the big fish, high government officials and businessmen. :banana::banana: to set as an example and deterrent to the smaller fishes.
that is why i have always been for the trial of government officials like corona.
isunod si tupas, or si drilon or si miriam kung kailangan.
with gma, ampatuan, abalos, corona already in hot water. with ex-generals suddenly rediscovering honor and integrity, we are on the right path.
Hong Kong did that in their anti-corruption drive in 1970s to 1980s. Look at Hong KOng now, one of the least corrupt countries/territories in the world today.
Bosnyboy March 1st, 2012, 08:37 AM I'm saddened that the righteous Pinoys' quest for a just and corrupt free country is lost in the horizon....
If there are cases against Aquino's officials, then they should be charged.....I am not particular on political affiliation, as long as there are corrupt officials, CHARGE them.
Isnt that what we all want? If we want to eliminate corruption in govt why focus only on certain individuals which are affliated with a certain group? Di kami naiinis kay noynoy in his fight to against graft, naiinis kami kay noynoy because he turns a blind eye on his own people and yet he is vicious in persecuting his enemies. His enemy should include everyone who is tainted with corruption and not only certain people.
In my opinion though trying to make the phils a corruption free country is just next to impossible. Its like asking the sun not to rise in the morning and moon at night. To be more practical about it, what we can do is control and manage corruption. There is no country that is immune to graft anyway. Even squeaky clean singapore is rock with corruption scandal every once in a while.
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 08:39 AM Isnt that what we all want? If we want to eliminate corruption in govt why focus only on certain individuals which are affliated with a certain group? Di kami naiinis kay noynoy in his fight to against graft, naiinis kami kay noynoy because he turns a blind eye on his own people and yet he is vicious in persecuting his enemies. His enemy should include everyone who is tainted with corruption and not only certain people.
In my opinion though trying to make the phils a corruption free country is just next to impossible. Its like asking the sun not to rise in the morning and moon at night. To be more practical about it, what we can do is control and manage corruption. There is no country that is immune to graft anyway. Even squeaky clean singapore is rock with corruption scandal every once in a while.
Who is preventing the filing of cases of those officials under Aquino tainted with graft and corruption?
As I said, WHOEVER IS GUILTY, they should be put in jail.
On Singapore, corruption case is very rare. I used to live in that city state. People are really afraid on the draconian laws against corruption. By a mere offer or statement of bribery regardless of amount, we call it "hearsay", you can be jailed. I'm not kidding.
Bosnyboy March 1st, 2012, 08:41 AM I'm afraid the real issue on Corona is lost.
It still puzzles me how come there are so many Filipinos who are in favor of corruption to thrive in this country.
As in my earlier posts, I don't care if all the congressmen and senators or all government officials in any political affiliation shall be charged with graft and corruption as long as we get rid of this disease that has afflicted the entire nation for so long as I remember. :ohno:
I dont anybody in this country tolerates corruption unless they benefit from it. But in our quest to fight corruption we must do it the proper way, the legal way. What the prosecution did is tantamount to corruption, presenting evidences that was acquired illegally. Ang isang pagkakamali ay hindi maitutuwid ng isa pang pagkakamali.
anone March 1st, 2012, 08:44 AM So do you agree na pag Judge ka e pwede ka ng magmura at mag degrade ng kahit sino?
If that what makes a man.. then mas gugustuhin ko na maging tupperware.
baka naman kasi nagiinit lang ang butsi nyo dahil kakampi nyo ang minumura. :D kung ganon naman talagang "bobo" ay agree ako para matakot yung ibang politicians natin na ambisyoso dahil kahihiyan lang ang idinudulot sa bansa natin at sa mga kapwa nilang abogado.
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 08:45 AM I dont anybody in this country tolerates corruption unless they benefit from it. But in our quest to fight corruption we must do it the proper way, the legal way. What the prosecution did is tantamount to corruption, presenting evidences that was acquired illegally. Ang isang pagkakamali ay hindi maitutuwid ng isa pang pagkakamali.
Was it not explained nor substantiated legally? We should look at the substance of the case. The problem that I am seeing is: people look at it as political case against an enemy of the President, so there is no objectivity.
As I said, those in the opposition should start filing graft and corruption cases against Aquino's officials. Nobody is preventing them to do that. In that way, we will see graft cases from both sides as our main objective is to get rid of this disease.
The big question is: How come the political opponents are not filing cases if you are telling me that there are also corrupt officials of this administration? Why the inaction?
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 08:47 AM I dont anybody in this country tolerates corruption unless they benefit from it. But in our quest to fight corruption we must do it the proper way, the legal way. What the prosecution did is tantamount to corruption, presenting evidences that was acquired illegally. Ang isang pagkakamali ay hindi maitutuwid ng isa pang pagkakamali.
But still should not stop there. The fight should continue.
The alledged issues of those individuals on the prosecution is another story. And they should held accountable for their action.
Dr. Richard Espeno March 1st, 2012, 08:57 AM I'm afraid the real issue on Corona is lost.
It still puzzles me how come there are so many Filipinos who are in favor of corruption to thrive in this country.
As in my earlier posts, I don't care if all the congressmen and senators or all government officials in any political affiliation shall be charged with graft and corruption as long as we get rid of this disease that has afflicted the entire nation for so long as I remember. :ohno:
It shouldnt puzzle you Ronnie, the problem is Corona's issue is not just plain corruption issue...its a complicated issue entangled in so so many issues like Hacienda Luisita and politics. And dont lose heart many of us here like you dont want corruption and in fact so tired of it and want a new way governance and government. We are not against his impeachment per se, its already in the process and we can only wait for its outcome...if he is convicted so be it and if not then its Aquino to blame for wasting a lot of our resources and time which could have been spent on more important things. We dont condone corruption, let the axe of justice falls on whosoever is guilty but...please do it in a proper way and gather enough evidence first before we proceed to the court/impeachment court otherwise again and again we will not be wasting time and resources but more importantly we will be destroying a lot of good will amongst ourselves and creating all these innecessary animosity, disunity and fragmentations. A!quino should will his presidential powers wisely
3cr March 1st, 2012, 08:59 AM Why prosecution dropped 5 Articles of Impeachment
Journal online
March 01, 2012
http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/news/top-stories/25043-why-prosecution-dropped-5-articles-of-impeachment
THE House prosecution panel may “have realized” that it would not be able to secure a conviction of Chief Justice Renato Corona if they would insist on presenting witnesses and evidence in all eight Articles of Impeachment they filed against the Supreme Court head.
Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile gave this view yesterday when asked to assess the move of the prosecutors to withdraw Articles 1, 4, 5, 6, and 8 and instead retain Articles 2, 3, and 7 in seeking the conviction of Corona for alleged culpable violation of the Constitution and betrayal of public trust.
“Kung ‘yung lima lang ang batayan nila, hindi nila matatanggal ‘yung nasasakdal. Iyun ang katotohanan. Huwag na tayong magkukunwari,” Enrile said in a television interview.
The Senate, sitting as impeachment court, has directed the prosecution panel to submit, in writing, until Friday this week a formal offer of their documentary evidence. Corona’s defense team on the other hand was also given five days to comment on the prosecution’s compliance with the court’s order. The impeachment court is set to resume trial on March 12 to give time to both panels to complete their tasks.
The prosecutors opted to drop the following grounds for impeachment against Corona: Articles 1 – partiality in cases involving the Arroyo administration; Article 4 -- disregard of the separation of powers by issuing a status quo ante order against the House of Representatives in the case concerning the impeachment of then Ombudsman Merceditas Gutierrez; Article 5 -- arbitrariness and partiality in cases related to the creation of 16 new cities and promotion of Dinagat island into a province; Article 6 -- arrogating unto himself the authority to investigate an erring member of the Supreme Court to exculpate him; Article 8 -- failure and refusal to account for the Judiciary Development Fund and Special Allowance for the judiciary collections
On the other hand, they are banking on the following allegations to secure Corona’s conviction: Article 2 – failure to disclose statement of assets, liabilities and net worth (SALN); Article 3 -- failure to observe stringent standards of competence, integrity, probity, and independence; and Article 7 -- partiality in granting a TRO (temporary restraining order) in favor of the former President now Rep.Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo and her husband Jose Miguel “Mike” Arroyo allowing them to leave the country last November so that the former chief executive can seek advanced medical treatment for her spine ailment.
When asked to comment on the observation of some quarters that the five dropped grounds for impeachment are baseless, Enrile said: “Ang naiiwan na lang ‘yung tatlo, ‘yung (Articles) 2, 3 at 7. Iyung (Articles) 1, 4, 5, 6, 8, wala na ‘yun. Hindi na namin pagbobotohan ‘yun. Basura na ‘yun. Ibig sabihin nun, ‘yun ay nilagay nila ng walang basehan upang tanggalin ‘yung gusto nilang ipatanggal.”
Corona’s defense counsel, Rico Quicho, said that the move of the prosecution not to pursue the five grounds of impeachment “only bolstered the defense’s (team’s) belief since the beginning that the complaint was weak on its face.”
skyion March 1st, 2012, 09:01 AM I'm afraid the real issue on Corona is lost.
It still puzzles me how come there are so many Filipinos who are in favor of corruption to thrive in this country.
As in my earlier posts, I don't care if all the congressmen and senators or all government officials in any political affiliation shall be charged with graft and corruption as long as we get rid of this disease that has afflicted the entire nation for so long as I remember. :ohno:
even up to now these people still failed to get it.
want to know the REAL CORRUPTORS of this country? Since the murder of Gen. Luna and robbery of the Katipunero's treasury, the saboteurs of the national economy since Marcos and masterminds of his assassination attempt, the mastermind behind Ninoy's, the culprits behind the Mendiola massacre, the perpetrators that sold this country to the IMF-WB suckery, the worse mudslingers, black propagandists that attack competent leaders who can dare challenge them, the culprits that dumbed down the masses, the suckers that burdened citizens with Asia's most expensive electric bills, the monopolizing of basic services, that nearly dragged down the country's economy to the brink of bankruptcy and whose interference caused so many Filipinos to wallow in poverty as they get filthy richer, yet so mediocritized as not to to know who or where they really are ?
They are right behind their incompetent YELLOW PUPPET that in his first months has only brought incompetence, frustrations, anemic economic performance, who merely rob credit at others' efforts, shameless partisan manipulations for their own selfish interests even when it endanger the country to division, and these puppeteers are the vilest and most CORRUPT of them all.
:bash: :bash:
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 09:04 AM It shouldnt puzzle you Ronnie, the problem is Corona's issue is not just plain corruption issue...its a complicated issue entangled in so so many issues like Hacienda Luisita and politics. And dont lose heart many of us here like you dont want corruption and in fact so tired of it and want a new way governance and government. We are not against his impeachment per se, its already in the process and we can only wait for its outcome...if he is convicted so be it and if not then its Aquino to blame for wasting a lot of our resources and time which could have been spent on more important things. We dont condone corruption, let the axe of justice falls on whosoever is guilty but...please do it in a proper way and gather enough evidence first before we proceed to the court/impeachment court otherwise again and again we will not be wasting time and resources but more importantly we will be destroying a lot of good will amongst ourselves and creating all these innecessary animosity, disunity and fragmentations. A!quino should will his presidential powers wisely
Thanks for the clarification. I thought our common goal in eradicating the well entrenched corruption is lost...........
I have high hopes that the disease will be tamed. Yes, "bosnyboy" is right, for PH settings, getting rid of the disease is impossible but cutting, controlling or containing it so it won't spread is possible....
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 09:11 AM parang si skyion e buhay na nung panahon ni rizal.. at kilala nya lahat ng tao.
Masyadong detalyado ang mga nalalaman nya. hehehe:nuts::lol:
Askal82 March 1st, 2012, 09:14 AM Did the defense present their side already? Because all they did so far is bringing out all legal technicalities instead of counterclaiming the allegations against Corona.
Legal technicalities alone won't change the public perception that Corona is not guilty.
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 09:18 AM parang si skyion e buhay na nung panahon ni rizal.. at kilala nya lahat ng tao.
Masyadong detalyado ang mga nalalaman nya. hehehe:nuts::lol:
:lol: There is another term for that....
skyion March 1st, 2012, 09:19 AM I'm saddened that the righteous Pinoys' quest for a just and corrupt free country is lost in the horizon....
and who were these claiming to be "righteous,' the pretentious yellows??
:rofl: :rofl:
only shows how dismally devolved the sense of morals in this country had become that seemed relegated down according to the superficial standards of their mudslinging hypocrisy :bash:
and even to the point of so lacking in wisdom as to erroneously mistake their mediocrity as "righteousness" :bash:
yet probe deeper thru such pretentious souls, at how they feast like seething vultures to those they demonize according to the gospel of Yellow Media for the glory of their Yellow Sith LORRRD's, to make themselves look "good" by making others "bad" even as it shocked World Humanity at the barbarism exhibited when against a mudslinged woman who otherwise dared to challenge their Oligarchic LORRRD's for the country's sake that the international community even brought their own research institutions due to such devolved threat against ideals of Humanity's Democracy, because they find more pleasure attacking her so, while so dumbed down as not to bother seeking for truth amidst black propaganda and false accusations, who would rather watch ABiaS primetime show Budoy that reflected their Yellow Media jejemonized IQ's.
and it proves in such choices not really as righteous as pretending to be, for even in their voting decisions it showed neither Truth nor Wisdom is on their Yellow mudslinging, hypocritical, mediocre side. :bash: :ohno:
3cr March 1st, 2012, 09:19 AM Testify in your trial, Enrile dares Corona
Manila Times
March 01, 2012
http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/news/top-stories/18274-testify-in-your-trial-enrile-dares-corona
Testify in your impeachment trial was the challenge made on Wednesday to Chief Justice Renato Corona by Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile, also the presiding officer of the Senate impeachment court trying the country’s chief jurist on eight Articles of Impeachment.
Enrile said that the defense team of Corona should seriously consider putting its client on the witness stand as he is the only one who can refute allegations hurled against him by the House prosecution panel.
He added that the Chief Justice can give detailed information about his bank accounts and can explain alleged irregularities in such accounts, which were used by the prosecution panel to boost Article II of the impeachment complaint against Corona.
In Article II, the prosecution tried to establish that Corona failed to disclose his bank accounts and other pieces of property in his statements of assets, liabilities and net worth (SALN).
“Walang iba kundi si Chief Justice lang ang makapagpapaliwanag ng kanyang bank accounts dahil naka–pangalan ito sa kanya, at siya ang nagmamay-ari nito [Nobody except the Chief Justice can explain his bank accounts because they are under his name and he owns them],” Enrile told radio station dzBB.
The Senate President expressed belief that once Corona decided to take the witness stand, it would be helpful not only to him but to the impeachment process and the nation as well.
“Mas makabubuti ito hindi lang sa kaso ni Chief Justice Corona, pati sa proseso, pati sa bansa [This would be helpful not only to Chief Justice Corona but to the process and the nation as well],” Enrile said.
He posed the challenge to Corona after the House prosecution panel headed by Rep. Niel Tupas Jr. of Iloilo province on Tuesday formally ended presentation of their evidence and dropped the remaining five Articles of Impeachment against the Chief Justice.
With the prosecutors’ move, Enrile said, the defense panel, led by retired Supreme Court Associate Justice Serafin Cuevas, can now start presenting their own evidence to refute the allegations of the prosecution.
It turned out that Corona’s lawyers were considering putting their client on the witness stand.
But lawyer Karen Jimeno, a spokesman for the defense, also on Wednesday pointed out that Corona, in case he decides to testify, cannot take the stand everyday because he has to attend to his responsibilities as Chief Justice.
Another defense spokesman, lawyer Tranquil Salvador 3rd, earlier said that they were not afraid to present Corona in the impeachment trial to explain everything, including purported discrepancies in his SALN.
Salvador, however, said that presenting their client should be done at the “proper time.”
He added that Corona will open his bank accounts at the right time or when they start to present their evidence to the impeachment tribunal.
Where Malacañang is concerned, it will be best for the country to see the Chief Justice testify before the Senate impeachment court so that he could personally shed light on the purported discrepancies in his SALN.
Its spokesman, Edwin Lacierda, also on Wednesday said, “In Article II, there is a question about his SALN . . . we’re wondering on who could testify on that point because this is a SALN that is prepared supposedly by Chief Justice Corona and/or his wife. So it would be preferable for him to shed light on how he prepared the SALN, why the SALN was filled up in that manner. And the only person we believe who can really testify as to the substance of the SALN would be the Chief Justice.”
Lacierda apparently was referring to Corona’s 2010 SALN, where the cash on hand stated differed from that kept in banks.
Enrile said that the Chief Justice could be tapped to testify on Article VII, which pertained to a temporary restraining order issued by the Supreme Court to stop the Department of Justice from restraining the departure of former President and now Rep. Gloria Arroyo of Pampanga province for a foreign country.
His challenge aside, a visibly irked Senate President also on Wednesday admonished both the defense and the prosecution from prematurely proclaiming that they have won the Corona impeachment case before the Senate court.
“May I suggest, gentlemen on both sides, you’re putting this court in a very serious predicament because you already make pronouncements about the weight and the quantum of evidence that you have presented for your side,” Enrile said at the start of Wednesday’s trial.
He added that claiming victory at this juncture could only mislead the people and place senator-judges in bad light and so both the defense and the prosecution should stop issuing such statements.
“There is no winner yet here. You can’t be too sure about it,” Enrile said.
He advised the two sides to “wait for the completion of the entire trial until a judgment can be pronounced.”
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 09:22 AM Testify in your trial, Enrile dares Corona
Manila Times
March 01, 2012
http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/news/top-stories/18274-testify-in-your-trial-enrile-dares-corona
[I][B]Testify in your impeachment trial was the challenge made on Wednesday to Chief Justice Renato Corona by Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile, also the presiding officer of the Senate impeachment court trying the country’s chief jurist on eight Articles of Impeachment.
Will Corona testify? I doubt...
anone March 1st, 2012, 09:27 AM bakit pa eh wala namang ebidensyang totoo/matino na naiharap ang prosecution.
LuckyLady March 1st, 2012, 09:27 AM Thanks for the clarification. I thought our common goal in eradicating the well entrenched corruption is lost...........
I have high hopes that the disease will be tamed. Yes, "bosnyboy" is right, for PH settings, getting rid of the disease is impossible but cutting, controlling or containing it so it won't spread is possible....
i don't think there is a country that was able to get rid of this corruption disease. other cleaner countries have have their share of corruption too but it is just controlled not like ours. Sa atin kasi talagang makakapal na mga tao sa gobyerno.
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 09:28 AM :lol: There is another term for that....
share naman :lol:
dessertfox March 1st, 2012, 09:30 AM I remember you were the first one to posted here about Hacienda Luisita ruling, you said good for Social Justice. Since day one it is all about the Hacienda and again as you said with teenager’s tantrum that caused this impeachment case.
They don’t have case against CJ as you see now with the ongoing IC, even their SALn case is very weak I guess and if you compare SALn of P-Noy, CJ is more credible. Since P-Noy did’nt realized that he will be destined to become the standard bearer o LP, he did’nt even try to file he’s SALn correctly and even omitted a year as per PCIJ report.
Anyway, your porte is about economic stability we should focus more on these issues rather that half baked corruption propaganda. I do believe that being young democracy as I’ve been pointing our here before, corruption is an on-going arduous process since day one of EDSA I. For me, a good economy is one best prescription to lessen corruption with our diverse culture and thousand of islands to deal with as compared to HK or Singapore which are just city state to effectively implement corruption laws.
I'm afraid the real issue on Corona is lost.
It still puzzles me how come there are so many Filipinos who are in favor of corruption to thrive in this country.
As in my earlier posts, I don't care if all the congressmen and senators or all government officials in any political affiliation shall be charged with graft and corruption as long as we get rid of this disease that has afflicted the entire nation for so long as I remember. :ohno:
skyion March 1st, 2012, 09:35 AM Thanks for the clarification. I thought our common goal in eradicating the well entrenched corruption is lost...........
I have high hopes that the disease will be tamed. Yes, "bosnyboy" is right, for PH settings, getting rid of the disease is impossible but cutting, controlling or containing it so it won't spread is possible....
asus nagsalita ang mga infected ng hepatitis, jaundice at yellow zombie virus :nuts:
pati mental health lumala naging jejemoniac at budoygenized :nuts:
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 09:38 AM ^^
awww. here we go again :banana:
LuckyLady March 1st, 2012, 09:39 AM Who is preventing the filing of cases of those officials under Aquino tainted with graft and corruption?
As I said, WHOEVER IS GUILTY, they should be put in jail.
On Singapore, corruption case is very rare. I used to live in that city state. People are really afraid on the draconian laws against corruption. By a mere offer or statement of bribery regardless of amount, we call it "hearsay", you can be jailed. I'm not kidding.
The problem is we don't have a draconian laws on corruption? If there is daming loopholes naman kaya wala pa rin. If our lawmakers and all those in top are really serious in dealing with corruption then they should put necessary measures on how to deal with this. Di lang na pag kontrang partido lang lagi don lang at mag se seryoso sila.
Tingnan mo nga yung transparency law san na ba ngayon??? dapat kasi sa corruption na to death penalty eh para mabawas bawasan naman yung ating populasyon:lol:
skyion March 1st, 2012, 09:39 AM ^^
awww. here we go again :banana:
repeat: OLIGARCH
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 09:41 AM ^^
as expected..
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 09:42 AM The problem is we don't have a draconian laws on corruption? If there is daming loopholes naman kaya wala pa rin. If our lawmakers and all those in top are really serious in dealing with corruption then they should put necessary measures on how to deal with this. Di lang na pag kontrang partido lang lagi don lang at mag se seryoso sila.
Tingnan mo nga yung transparency law san na ba ngayon??? dapat kasi sa corruption na to death penalty eh para mabawas bawasan naman yung ating populasyon:lol:
hahahaha.. malamang mauubos ang mga politicians
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 09:43 AM share naman :lol:
http://www.40daydetox.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/einstein.gif
Have you noticed the repetition and the common words in all his posts? :lol:
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 09:47 AM http://www.40daydetox.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/einstein.gif
Have you noticed the repetition and the common words in all his posts? :lol:
:banana::banana::lol::lol:
skyion March 1st, 2012, 09:47 AM http://www.40daydetox.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/einstein.gif
Have you noticed the repetition and the common words in all his posts? :lol:
obviously you haven't noticed how Yellow Media's repetitive formula has made a jejemoniac out of you :nuts:
then have the jaundiced gall of expecting different results :rofl:
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 09:48 AM I remember you were the first one to posted here about Hacienda Luisita ruling, you said good for Social Justice. Since day one it is all about the Hacienda and again as you said with teenager’s tantrum that caused this impeachment case.
They don’t have case against CJ as you see now with the ongoing IC, even their SALn case is very weak I guess and if you compare SALn of P-Noy, CJ is more credible. Since P-Noy did’nt realized that he will be destined to become the standard bearer o LP, he did’nt even try to file he’s SALn correctly and even omitted a year as per PCIJ report.
Anyway, your porte is about economic stability we should focus more on these issues rather that half baked corruption propaganda. I do believe that being young democracy as I’ve been pointing our here before, corruption is an on-going arduous process since day one of EDSA I. For me, a good economy is one best prescription to lessen corruption with our diverse culture and thousand of islands to deal with as compared to HK or Singapore which are just city state to effectively implement corruption laws.
Do you still see hope for a lesser corrupt PH?
The problem is we don't have a draconian laws on corruption? If there is daming loopholes naman kaya wala pa rin. If our lawmakers and all those in top are really serious in dealing with corruption then they should put necessary measures on how to deal with this. Di lang na pag kontrang partido lang lagi don lang at mag se seryoso sila.
Tingnan mo nga yung transparency law san na ba ngayon??? dapat kasi sa corruption na to death penalty eh para mabawas bawasan naman yung ating populasyon:lol:
FOI is one good measure though....
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 09:48 AM :banana::banana::lol::lol:
Bingo. :cheers:
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 09:49 AM skyion
Totoo ba to?? baka nasaksihan mo rin to.
Justice Cuevas took part in a coup
attempt against Pres. Cory Aquino
http://raissarobles.com/2012/02/28/justice-cuevas-took-part-in-a-coup-attempt-against-pres-cory-aquino/
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 09:52 AM skyion
Totoo ba to?? baka nasaksihan mo rin to.
YOu should know his reply, anticipated repetitive words....:lol:
"bosnyboy" said that those who think skyion is a fool, then those who engage with him is a bigger fool".
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 09:55 AM YOu should know his reply, anticipated repetitive words....:lol:
"bosnyboy" said that those who think skyion is a fool, then those who engage with him is a bigger fool".
di ko naman iniisip na fool cya :banana::lol:
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 09:57 AM di ko naman iniisip na fool cya :banana::lol:
Me too.... :):banana::lol:
skyion March 1st, 2012, 09:57 AM di ko naman iniisip na fool cya :banana::lol:
oo nga, pero yung nagtanong na dinaupan ng jaundice sigurado may duda ka :lol:
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 09:59 AM oo nga, pero yung nagtanong na dinaupan ng jaundice sigurado may duda ka :lol:
di rin. hehehe
naisip ko ikaw lang nagiisip nun..
:banana:
skyion March 1st, 2012, 10:00 AM di rin. hehehe
naisip ko ikaw lang nagiisip nun..
:banana:
ah ok, sustained.
teka, may double meaning yata :sly:
so, does that mean I'm smarter than you? :yes: :rofl:
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 10:08 AM ah ok, sustained.
teka, may double meaning yata :sly:
so, does that mean I'm smarter than you? :yes: :rofl:
kung "ikaw" ang ibig sabihin ng smart... sige sayo na.. di ako smart :)
ikaw RonnieR.. smart ka rin ba?
skyion March 1st, 2012, 10:11 AM kung "ikaw" ang ibig sabihin ng smart... sige sayo na.. di ako smart :)
ikaw RonnieR.. smart ka rin ba?
ah globe ka pala,
tried mo sun?
3cr March 1st, 2012, 10:14 AM Linking corruption and poverty
Business World
http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=Opinion&title=Linking-corruption-and-poverty&id=46663
The war against poverty cannot be won without a victory in the war against corruption. The private sector can be a major facilitator for poverty alleviation because of its capability to create market based solutions for the world’s poorest consumers or what C.K. Prahalad calls the Bottom of the Pyramid (BOP). But the biggest obstacle to its full involvement is the nation’s failure to implement laws due to a corrupt bureaucracy and judiciary.
The government still plays the biggest role in poverty alleviation. But while the private sector cannot solve all the problems, it can contribute technical and financial resources, the discipline of organization, accountability and entrepreneurial drive to bear on this problem.
There is now a growing awareness in the business sector that the Bottom of the Pyramid presents a major business opportunity. Among the best example is the cellphone business which has demonstrated beyond doubt that there is a market for world-class goods and services if they can be made available at affordable prices.There is no question that the cellphone has transformed the lives of the poor. It has brought global communication available to the remote barrios and to the urban poor including maids, drivers and tricycle drivers.
This business has created a network of mini-entrepreneurs who sell prepaid cards and charge the cellphones. Remittances are now being handled through cellphones. More and more farmers are also bypassing middlemen and contacting buyers directly through the cellphone.
At the same time, telecommunications companies, like Globe and SMART, have discovered that the BOP market is highly profitable.
Although business practitioners can be convinced about the opportunity for profits at the BOP market, there is still plenty of doubt about investing in emerging markets. The primary source of this doubt is government corruption which adds to the cost burden and business uncertainty.
Most developing countries, including many sectors in the Philippines, do not fully recognize the real costs of corruption and its impact on private sector development and poverty alleviation. The capacity to facilitate commercial transactions through a system of laws fairly enforced is critical to the development of the private sector.
The initial step to solving this problem, according to C. K. Prahalad, is through transaction governance capacity or TGC. This is about making the process of formulating laws and regulations as transparent as possible and consistently enforced. According to him: "The capacity to facilitate commercial transactions through a system of laws fairly enforced is critical to the development of the private sector."
The truth is that not all poor countries have a poor legal structure. The Philippines and India both have a democratic constitution and a judicial system that, in terms of structure, resembles the Western model. The Philippines even has a Supreme Court with 15 members, larger than the United States Supreme Court with nine members.
In both countries, the problem lies in the weak enforcement mechanisms. Therefore, the nation lacks the capability to enforce the laws.
Prahalad states: "Fundamental to the evolution of capital markets and a vibrant private sector is the need for a transparent market for capital, land, labor, commodities and knowledge. Transparency results from a widely understood and clearly enforced rules. Transactions involving these rules must be clear and unambiguous.
"Ownership and the transfer of ownership must be enforced. Under such a system, assets can become capital. Investors will seek the best opportunities.
"Transparent governance capacity (TGC) is the capacity of a society to guarantee transparency in the process of economic transactions and the ability to enforce commercial transactions. Transparency in the process reduces transaction costs. Clearly developed laws, transparent micro-regulations, social norms, and timely and uniform enforcement are all part of TGC. My argument is that TGC is more important than laws that are not enforced."
The real problem of the bureaucracy and the Judiciary in this country is how they deal with ordinary citizens.
Since they have the power to decide how long the process will take, they can decide the level of priority of any case brought to their office for decision or resolution. Since bureaucrats and judges control access, priority and transparency, they have the power to control time.
Corruption, therefore, is about providing privileged access to resources and recognizing the time value of money. Prahalad defines it: "Corruption is a market mechanism for privileged access."
Constitutions and laws do not help the citizen if there is no transparency and equal priority access to the bureaucracy and the judiciary because access is for sale to the highest bidder. Even during the dark days of the Marcos dictatorship, the country had a constitution, a Congress, a Supreme Court, a Comelec and a deluge of laws.
A corrupt bureaucracy and Judiciary can make a travesty of the "rule of law." The reality is that corruption in both the bureaucracy and the Judiciary are endemic and systemic. Transparency, consistent enforcement of the laws, and equal access are more important than laws that are not enforced.
The war against poverty cannot be won without a victory in the war against corruption.
Dr. Elfren S. Cruz is a professor of Strategic Management at the MBA Program, Ramon V. Del Rosario College of Business, De La Salle University. Please send comments or questions to elfrencruz@gmail.com
Dr. Richard Espeno March 1st, 2012, 10:34 AM start with the big fish, high government officials and businessmen. :banana::banana: to set as an example and deterrent to the smaller fishes.
that is why i have always been for the trial of government officials like corona.
isunod si tupas, or si drilon or si miriam kung kailangan.
with gma, ampatuan, abalos, corona already in hot water. with ex-generals suddenly rediscovering honor and integrity, we are on the right path.
100% agree!... ang problema lang sino magsasabi kung sino ang kelangang isunod? si Aquino?...kung gusto nyo ng big fish bat di simulan kay Aquino at kamyang mga gabinte, Binay? Enrile at mga Senador, Belmonte at mga Kongresista? lumaktaw kay Corona agad....BAKIT? si Corona ang inuna?
Para kasing nangyayari selective justice...pag kaibigan kapartido at sipsip kay Aquino swerte ka....pag kalaban ka o hindi ka nya type pasensya ka, dapat pagulungin at paandarin ang makinarya ng gobyerno para maipakulong ka o maimpeach.
Bago pa naman lumabas ang impeachment ni Corona wala namang Public knowledge regarding his ill gotten wealth d ba? wala tayong naririnig o nababasa tungkol sa corruption nya, alam lang natin noon ay considered syang midnight appointee ni Arroyo at doon nagalit si Aquino.
SO TANONG BAKIT SI CORONA ANG INUNA kung susundan natin ang logic mo about prosecuting all corrupt government officials...
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 10:39 AM 100% agree!... ang problema lang sino magsasabi kung sino ang kelangang isunod? si Aquino?...kung gusto nyo ng big fish bat di simulan kay Aquino at kamyang mga gabinte, Binay? Enrile at mga Senador, Belmonte at mga Kongresista? lumaktaw kay Corona agad....BAKIT? si Corona ang inuna?
Para kasing nangyayari selective justice...pag kaibigan kapartido at sipsip kay Aquino swerte ka....pag kalaban ka o hindi ka nya type pasensya ka, dapat pagulungin at paandarin ang makinarya ng gobyerno para maipakulong ka o maimpeach.
Bago pa naman lumabas ang impeachment ni Corona wala namang Public knowledge regarding his ill gotten wealth d ba? wala tayong naririnig o nababasa tungkol sa corruption nya, alam lang natin noon ay considered syang midnight appointee ni Arroyo at doon nagalit si Aquino.
SO TANONG BAKIT SI CORONA ANG INUNA kung susundan natin ang logic mo about prosecuting all corrupt government officials...
akala ko si GMA and others ang inuna?
Si Corona, iniimpeach pa lang.. di pa cya nakakasuhan ng corruption.
Dr. Richard Espeno March 1st, 2012, 10:45 AM sir kaya nga qinoute ko sinabi ni eastern, basahin mo muna sinulan nya. thanks:)
Dr. Richard Espeno March 1st, 2012, 10:50 AM si GMA nga and others ang inuna bago kay Corona kasi nga di kakampi, pero labas na si GMA sa usapan kasi nakakulong na nga eh
ang sinasabi ko sa mga nakaupo sa gobyerno from the highest office in the land bakit si Corona ang inuna?
RonnieR March 1st, 2012, 10:51 AM 100% agree!... ang problema lang sino magsasabi kung sino ang kelangang isunod? si Aquino?...kung gusto nyo ng big fish bat di simulan kay Aquino at kamyang mga gabinte, Binay? Enrile at mga Senador, Belmonte at mga Kongresista? lumaktaw kay Corona agad....BAKIT? si Corona ang inuna?
Para kasing nangyayari selective justice...pag kaibigan kapartido at sipsip kay Aquino swerte ka....pag kalaban ka o hindi ka nya type pasensya ka, dapat pagulungin at paandarin ang makinarya ng gobyerno para maipakulong ka o maimpeach.
Bago pa naman lumabas ang impeachment ni Corona wala namang Public knowledge regarding his ill gotten wealth d ba? wala tayong naririnig o nababasa tungkol sa corruption nya, alam lang natin noon ay considered syang midnight appointee ni Arroyo at doon nagalit si Aquino.
SO TANONG BAKIT SI CORONA ANG INUNA kung susundan natin ang logic mo about prosecuting all corrupt government officials...
I think CJ is perceived by Aquino as pro-GMA. Since Aquino wants to persecute GMA, then he knew that he has to get rid of Corona because the case will ultimately go to SC.
As to Aquino and his officials, how come the political opposition is silent and is not filing cases against them? Does it mean they are coward or they can't find cases to charge them? Remember, the Judiciary is perceived to be anti-Aquino with the recent development. In this regard, it is easier for the opposition to file cases against the corrupt officials of Aquino. I would be glad to see both parties to be put in jail!!!!!! :cheers:
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 10:52 AM sir kaya nga qinoute ko sinabi ni eastern, basahin mo muna sinulan nya. thanks:)
Corona is one of the Holders of the Rule of Law. And somehow his position was tainted with anomalies, which basically blocks the agenda to fight for corruption.
Di ba dapat alisin muna lahat ng balakid bago mo simulan ang pagbabago?
wolfdgreat March 1st, 2012, 10:55 AM I think CJ is perceived by Aquino as pro-GMA. Since Aquino wants to persecute GMA, then he knew that he has to get rid of Corona because the case will ultimately go to SC.
As to Aquino and his officials, how come the political opposition is silent and is not filing cases against them? Does it mean they are coward or they can't find cases to charge them? Remember, the Judiciary is perceived to be anti-Aquino with the recent development. In this regard, it is easier for the opposition to file cases against the corrupt officials of Aquino. I would be glad to see both parties to be put in jail!!!!!! :cheers:
Tama. natural lang naman na linisin mo muna lahat ng alam mo haharang sa hangarin mo.
Actually the opposition on the lower house rejected the case filed for the impeachment of Aquino.
Dr. Richard Espeno March 1st, 2012, 11:00 AM Corona is one of the Holders of the Rule of Law. And somehow his position was tainted with anomalies, which basically blocks the agenda to fight for corruption.
Di ba dapat alisin muna lahat ng balakid bago mo simulan ang pagbabago?
tainted by anomalies? on whos perception? as i have said there was no public opinion about this "tainted with anomalies of Corona's" before his impeachment ....did you have any knowledge of Corona's wrongdoing before his impeachment? His wrongdoings were mere opinions by Aquino and his cohorts then...then impeachment came...then all supposed ill gotten wealth came out
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