Attorney daw? O Atty Dilaw?

Nagdi-discuss ng merits sa kaso, di alam ang subjudice rule! Hehehehe

:ohno::ohno::ohno: face palm. parchie naman oh, wag ka kasi sabat ng sabat sa mga bagay na wala ka alam. sub judice rule is now relevantly applicable only to parties and their attorney.

:lol::lol::lol: hindi naman ako party sa kaso na ito. besides, sub judice rule is applied only in regular courts, not impeachment courts. :lol::lol::lol:

back to the dungeon for you. :lol:

let us add this sub judice rule to your list of gems.

1. quantitative analysis.
2. Human Development Index.
3. Sub Judice Rule. :lol:

andito na ulit ang dakilang bayaran na atornilyo :lol:

abugado nga FOR SALE NAMAN ANG PRINSIPYO :lol:

:lol::lol::lol: wow, pro-Gibo = volunteer. (it gives you that euphoric feeling, parang addict.)

pag pro-aquino=bayaran.

pag nag issue TRO= rule of law. pag na impeach (within the same framework of the constitution, mob rule at diktador).

pag si drilon tumayo, bias, pero pag si joker acting like a defense counsel in defense of his brod estelito mendoza.:lol::lol:

you guys are really funny. nilaglag nyo na rin si lagman. :lol:

@eastern dragon, hindi ba pwede magkaroon ng bentahah ng property between father and daughter?

About discrepancy, bigyan natin ng time i-explain ni Corona yung discrepancy, hindi dapat nag-coconclude.

Pero hindi ba, dapat pag nag-akusa ka at nagfile ng case, ibig sabihin may cause of action ka na at dapat may proofs ka na. Hindi yung inuungkat mo at sinasali sa kaso yung hindi kasama sa accusations.

Kahit sabihin nating impeachment case is sui generis, kelangang masunod pa rin ang due process na nakasaad sa consti.

@eastern dragon, hindi ba pwede magkaroon ng bentahah ng property between father and daughter?

About discrepancy, bigyan natin ng time i-explain ni Corona yung discrepancy, hindi dapat nag-coconclude.

Pero hindi ba, dapat pag nag-akusa ka at nagfile ng case, ibig sabihin may cause of action ka na at dapat may proofs ka na. Hindi yung inuungkat mo at sinasali sa kaso yung hindi kasama sa accusations.

Kahit sabihin nating impeachment case is sui generis, kelangang masunod pa rin ang due process na nakasaad sa consti.

re sale of property between father and daughter, there can be a sale there, but is raising eyebrows is the question whether the daughter had the capacity to buy it and not just an attempt to transfer properties by using dummies. in all probability, this is a fictitious sale as there is really no consideration paid by the daughter between them. really out of the ordinary as daughters would typically ask these properties for free or advance legitime.

in real life, buying a property from you parents spot cash, is that a typical behavior between father and daughter? you are going to law school right, it is obvious din naman yan na may tinatago. how would you explain vidals unwillingness to submit it if you have nothing to hide.

di ba presumption of evidence yan, na evidence willingly withheld by one party is presumed to be adverse to him. kaya lumabas na lahat yan. not to mention corona failure to disclose in his saln that from 2002-2009 that his wife worked in government as mandated by law.

as a fellow lawyer, i have no sympathy for this cheap justice, er, i mean thief justice, oops, i meant chief justice. with corona, he seemed to have muddled the 3 concepts.

in criminal law, your contention would be correct as there are strict rules of procedure, but in the impeachment court, i think they have given more leeway to it being a political/criminal process.

for example, betrayal of public trust is a broad offense which can absorb most of the charges but to pin them down in any of the 8 would be enough.

tip. carpio, drilon, enrile all belong to sigma rho. so you should know where this trial is headed.

^^ Si Justice Carpio Rosig din diba?

EDIT: Namention mo na pala. :D Hmm, lakas ng Sigma Rho ngayon ah.

^^ Si Justice Carpio Rosig din diba?

EDIT: Namention mo na pala. :D Hmm, lakas ng Sigma Rho ngayon ah.

ano start ng student nu mo absinthe? :lol:

rhosig yan. kaya nga atat na atat na ang mga rhosig ngayon di ba. mukhang moro moro na lang ito kasi tapos na ata ang boxing in the minds of the senators eh.

LP+enrile, honasan, trillanes, estrada, cayetanos etc.

@eastern dragon, sino ba ang member ng sigma rho? Si noynoy ba o si corona? Hindi ko ala, facts about dyan...

About certain matters being withheld by the Coronas, hindi naman adverse agad sa kanila dahil may mga privileged matters naman.

About sa sale, since pwede namang magkabentahan between father and daughter,kelangang patunayan ng prosecution na fictitious ang sale. We cannot presume na may tinatago agad. Hindi ba?

^^ Si Noynoy Sigma Rhoan? Parang @_@. :D Solid Atenista tong si P.Noy.

Si Corona ay sa Fraternal Order of Utopia gawa Atenean sha.


ano start ng student nu mo absinthe? :lol:

rhosig yan. kaya nga atat na atat na ang mga rhosig ngayon di ba. mukhang moro moro na lang ito kasi tapos na ata ang boxing in the minds of the senators eh.

LP+enrile, honasan, trillanes, estrada, cayetanos etc.

LB branch ako Ser, hindi kaya ng utak ko ang Diliman. :D 1998 - ***** :lol:

@eastern dragon, sino ba ang member ng sigma rho? Si noynoy ba o si corona? Hindi ko ala, facts about dyan...

About certain matters being withheld by the Coronas, hindi naman adverse agad sa kanila dahil may mga privileged matters naman.

About sa sale, since pwede namang magkabentahan between father and daughter,kelangang patunayan ng prosecution na fictitious ang sale. We cannot presume na may tinatago agad. Hindi ba?

corona is utopia. si aquino wala frat.

re the sale of the father and daughter, you can presume that it may be ill gotten wealth, if the property is disproportionately high compared to the known income of the buyer or the seller in some cases. kaya dali na si corona diyan i am sure. basic mathematic yan eh.

his net worth=14m? meaning, if today, he decides to sell all his properties and buy only one property, he can only buy one worth P14m which is his net worth. wag mo na isama future income kasi hindi counted sa net worth yan.

if you are worth only P14m now, and receiving an annual salary of less than a 1m pesos. how can you afford to buy and sell properties worth P50m?

kaya marami mga government officers nadadali dyan. sometimes it is not even required that the asset be listed in your name, like a car, as long as it is proven that there is " beneficial ownership" meaning, ikaw gumagamit araw araw. :lol::lol:

sorry to burst the hope of all anti aquino here, but corona for all intent and purposes is finished already.

about corona's failure to disclose his wife's work in the govt. Sa tingin ko hindi naman kelangan ng strict application dun. For sure hindi absolute requirement yun specially kung publicly known yung fact. So hindi kagad natin pwedeng i-claim na nandudugas si Corona dahil lang hindi niya nilagay sa saln nya na married siya kay mrs. Corona. Substantial compliance sa rules relating to saln is enough. What is substantial compliance depends on the court na.

Ang point ko lang, theprosecutionn really has to prove na nandugas nga si Corona sa saln nya. So far, hindi pa nila napapatunayan. Mere discrepancy should not lead us to an adverse conclusion.

LB branch ako Ser, hindi kaya ng utak ko ang Diliman. :D 1998 - ***** :lol:

i am several years older than you. :lol::lol::lol:

about sa computation ng income ni corona and capacity to buy things, yan ang dapat ipakita ng prosecution sa trial.

about sa computation ng income ni corona and capacity to buy things, yan ang dapat ipakita ng prosecution sa trial.

i am sure that they will do that. although i am not into too much of litigation, i am sure that it will go that direction. marking of evidence pa yan and testimony ng mga witnesses. when the prosecutors will argue the case, ipapakita yan, kaya nga kim henares was summoned to produce the income returns of the couple, upon the approval of the president of course kasi you can be criminally liable if you show that document.

nilalatag lang nila ang evidence, kaya nga cuevas was arguing yesterday to have the case dismissed etc. etc. etc and the documents rejected. once admitted as evidence, later on during the offer of evidence, patay na. :lol::lol:

@ eastern dragon, sino ang may sigma rho members? Prosecution o defense?

Pero Enrile made it clear naman na impeachment, though a class of its own is more kin to a criminal case, so more likely may guaranty sa rights of the accused.

About the 50 million matter, is that a fact o allegation palang?... Thanks thanks... Balik ako mamaya,panoorin ko muna yung show.

^^ Prosecution shempre. Hehe. Kaya nga "ALAM" na e. :D

^^ Prosecution shempre. Hehe. Kaya nga "ALAM" na e. :D

:lol::lol::lol: o nga, tahimik lang ako dito for almost 2 weeks. laughing my ass off.

seriously, i think it would take a miracle to save wheel of steel beloved. :lol::lol:

sana iraffle yung mga property ni corona. :lol:

Link from the previous thread

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1460383

Tatad quip gets Drilon's ire

Tatad, who went to the Senate to observe the trial, approached Drilon after a break in proceedings was called and said: “Are you a judge or the prosecutor?”

Drilon snapped back: “Why, what’s your problem? You want to disqualify me? Go ahead.”
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/22359/tatad-quip-gets-drilons-ire



Tatad wants Drilon inhibition

Meanwhile, former Senator Kit Tatad wanted Senator-Judge Franklin Drilon to be disqualified in the roster of judges in the impeachment proceedings against Corona.

At a break during a proceeding today, Tatad approached Drilon and asked him to resign if he can't help but "assist" the prosecution panel.

The former senator also wanted Drilon to be disqualified from the roaster of judges for being "bias" in favor of the prosecution.

As of this posting, the hearing has resumed with the defense panel cross-examining a witness of the prosecution.
http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=63&articleid=769272








Gisahin ang matabang Dilaw sa sariling Dilaw na mantika.

Defense panel decries Drilon ‘rescue’
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/131139/defense-panel-decries-drilon-%E2%80%98rescue%E2%80%99


Defense lawyers on Thursday expressed concern that some senators were acting as “substitutes” for fumbling House prosecutors in the impeachment trial of Chief Justice Renato Corona.

Serafin Cuevas, Corona’s lead counsel, lamented how Senator Franklin Drilon saved the day for the prosecution and compelled Enriqueta Vidal, the Supreme Court clerk of court, to release to the impeachment court the chief magistrate’s statement of assets, liabilities and net worth (SALN) without authorization from the high tribunal.


The defense panel may have to seek relief from the high tribunal “if we feel that their actions are already constitutive of grave abuse of discretion,”:bash: said the former Supreme Court associate justice.

“They (senators) are judges. They shall remain impartial and shall decide on the basis of the Constitution and the law,”:ohno: Cuevas said in a news briefing after the trial on Wednesday night.





Cuevas said Corona’s legal team was discussing the possibility of bringing its concern to the Supreme Court if it becomes more apparent that some senators are favoring the prosecution panel.

The 83-year-old lawyer shrugged off suggestions that a decision to seek legal remedies would delay the proceedings, arguing that lawyers were obligated to ensure the best legal action for their client.

“We are prepared for this eventuality … We will invoke our right to get a relief from the Supreme Court. Where else can we go? That is the only recourse left on our table … We are merely abiding by the dictates of the Constitution,” Cuevas explained.


Former Senator Francisco Tatad said he approached Drilon during a break in the proceedings on Thursday to express concern about his observation that the senator was “doing a job” but was “beginning to sound like (he is) a member of the prosecution.”

Tatad told reporters Drilon snapped back at him, “Why, what’s your problem? You disqualify me! Disqualify me!”

Tatad said Drilon told him to “sit with them in the defense panel.”

“I’m not here to be part of either prosecution or defense panel. I’m here to write a book on the impeachment. This would be my second book on impeachment,” said Tatad, who wrote the book, “The Impeachment of President Joseph Ejercito Estrada” several months after his ouster in 2001.

Tatad, who was Senate majority leader when Drilon was Senate President, said he told the senator-judge “that I’m interested in credibility of the impeachment process.”:bash:


“He was still looking angry when I left,” Tatad recalled.(:lol: nagmukhang guilty tuloy ang naka-togang Dilaw na binenta ang kredibilidad)

Why do I have the feeling that the senators are choosing sides instead of being neutral in this issue. And it is not just Drillon.

" Politically assigned???? "
" Politically impeached???? "

if both are accurate.. I think it's just fair.. kampi kampihan lang yan :lol:


Politicians are all the same.. Let's not waste our time defending one from another..

NASA: 2012 could bring record solar storms

http://nt0.ggpht.com/news/tbn/3A0sEu56Ku80CM/1.jpg

NASA officials said Wednesday that Earth is likely to face a barrage of increasingly common solar storms over the course of 2012 and 2013.

The solar storm, which is technically known as a coronal mass ejection (CME), is a massive eruption of solar plasma into space. The storm is expected spark major and moderate geomagnetic storms at high latitudes on Wednesday and Thursday, said officials on Wednesday......continued (http://www.thestatecolumn.com/science/nasa-2012-could-bring-record-solar-storms/)

Predicted na pala ng NASA to: Corona mass ejection or (CME's) daw. :lol: :lol:

It's just a natural phenomenon.

Predicted na pala ng NASA to: Corona mass ejection or (CME's) daw. :lol: :lol:

It's just a natural phenomenon.

:lol::lol::lol:

better yet. corona macapagal ejection. :lol:

Dedicated to Eastern Dragon, jpdm, mwg, etc. :naughty: :naughty:

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:cheers::cheers::lol::lol:

kaka-inlove:D

Dedicated to Eastern Dragon, jpdm, mwg, etc. :naughty: :naughty:

AJDHtzQS2z0


:cheers::cheers::lol::lol:

:rofl:



Predicted na pala ng NASA to: Corona mass ejection or (CME's) daw. :lol: :lol:

It's just a natural phenomenon.

duda ko rin may mga sinaunang kontinente na lumubog dahil mga nanninirahan duon naging mga pasaway na magkasing-hipokritong mudslingers na jejemonic.

:old::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::horse:

:lol::lol:

Parang nagiging PEx na ang Exec at Judicial Threads gawa sa endless GMA vs. Noynoy debate. :D

Anyway, the circus resumes tomorrow..

gmanews GMA News
Sen. Miriam will be present in today's impeachment trial after a week-long absence due to hypertension, her office confirms. | @jamsisante

sana hindi sya ma highblood sa trial:lol:

^^ Miriam is eating Tupas :lol:

Kakabalik lang, sabak agad

^^ Miriam is eating Tupas :lol:

Kakabalik lang, sabak agad
Tama bang nabasa ko? Kina-in ang kay XXXXX? Hahahaha

Tupas is just a glutton for punishment. I mean, even a dog can be trained...this idiot, however, is just a troll.

Vizconde to testify vs Corona
‘Serious breach’ of high court rule cited

By Cathy C. Yamsuan
Philippine Daily Inquirer
12:17 am | Tuesday, January 24th, 2012

Lauro Vizconde has decided to appear in the impeachment trial of Chief Justice Renato Corona to discuss the details of a private meeting with him in September 2010.

Vizconde, 74, said that during this meeting Corona told him about the alleged efforts of Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio to pressure (binabraso) colleagues to vote for the acquittal of Hubert Webb, son of former Senator Freddie Webb.

The younger Webb had spent 15 years in prison awaiting the final ruling of the high tribunal in connection with the rape of Vizconde’s daughter, Carmela, who was later murdered, along with her younger sister and mother in their Parañaque City home on July 31, 1991, in which he was the principal accused.

Vizconde said he had spent the past two weeks agonizing on whether to testify against Corona whose revelation to him in that private meeting was cited as one of the grounds in Article 3 of the impeachment complaint against the chief magistrate for betrayal of public trust and culpable violation of the Constitution.

Prosecutors said the disclosure constituted a “serious breach of the rule of confidentiality” on cases pending in the high tribunal.

Read more: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/133123/vizconde-to-testify-vs-corona

I <3 Sen. Miriam Defensor

hilarious way of telling the court to stop dicking around.

Predicted na pala ng NASA to: Corona mass ejection or (CME's) daw. :lol: :lol:

It's just a natural phenomenon.

Isnt this one of the scenarios they're looking at as one of the causes of the end of the world?

I mean really, this whole impeachment thing is such a waste of time and resources. Even if corona is ejected, nothing will change really. Pnoy will just appoing his ally to the CJ position. Graft and corruption will not be solved at all. Prices will not come down, people wont have more jobs. The country's peace and order situation will not get better. Gas prices will not go down. Going abroad to work will still be the number one priority for most pinoys because of the lack of income opportunities in our country. The only good thing i can milk from these crass proceedings is for its entertainment value. This i agree is better than those stupid telenobelas being force fed to us day in day out on local tv.

Besides people has grown weary from these political drama. I dont see any mass uprising if ever they notice the results arent credible enough. We've been fooled several times already, edsa 1, edsa 2, edsa 3. The only people who always benefits in the end are those who benefits from any mass uprising, the politicians in particular. The poor, the middle class who supports this uprisng always ends up in the losing end. Hay kalokohan na lang ito. While other nation are competing on who will be first to put the first man in mars, we're still quarreling over petty stuffs. tsk tsk grabe

Tupas or Tupak = Abugago

:banana:Sige CJ ( BAGO KA MAPATALSIK ) sagarin mo na yang COCO LEVY na ikinayaman nang mga Cojuangco. Pero dapat yong mga magsasaka ang makinabang hindi ang ganyang pag-pipiyestahan na naman nang mga pulitiko.


SC affirms ruling awarding 24% SMC shares to government:banana:

MANILA, Philippines – The high court has affirmed a Sandiganbayan ruling awarding to the government the 24-percent block of shares in San Miguel Corp. that were registered in the names of Coconut Industry Investment Fund (CIIF) and its holding companies.

The 11-0 SC vote upheld the antigraft court’s May 2004 ruling awarding 753,848,312 shares to the government, which holds it in trust for the country's coconut farmers.


SOURCE: http://www.interaksyon.com/article/22745/sc-affirms-ruling-awarding-24-smc-shares-to-government

Shouldnt the prosecution team be cited for contempt. They are always on tv showing the different court evidences that are not tackled in the impeachment court yet. Those prosecution team acts like a bunch of arrogant spoiled brats. They think theyre above the law, they want the court to side with them all the time. I feel they should be taught a hard lesson, sobrang yabang. As if theyre all clean. Congressman angara is one of them. Sus ginoo, aurora province should be rename angara province since all the family members of the angara clans holds public office. From senator to congressman to governor to mayors to even councilors. Kapal ng mukha kala mo kung gaano kalinis. PWeh

syempre huwag kalimutan ang Hipokritong Dilaw na si Tupas at ang corruption charges laban sa kanila dahil ito talaga ang dahilan kung bakit nag-aasta ang Hipokritong Dilaw sa impeachment court para protektahan ang tatak Tupas na pangugurakot mula sa Tatak Dilaw sa inaasam na magkaroon ng Tutang Dilaw na korte suprema para protektahan ang kanilang Dilaw na pangugurakot:

Ombudsman-presses-graft-raps-vs-Tupas-Sr-5-othersOmbudsman presses graft raps vs Tupas Sr., 5 others (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20110304-323374/)

Tupas Sr. is the father of Iloilo Rep. Niel Tupas Jr., chair of the House justice committee which is hearing the impeachment complaints against Ombudsman Merceditas Gutierrez.

Another of Tupas Sr.?s sons, Raul, is married to a daughter of one of the co-accused, Marianito Montesclaros.

The corruption charges stemmed from Tupas Sr.?s issuance of a permit to crush sand and gravel to Melvin Requinto to be used in the construction of the New Iloilo Airport, despite Requinto?s lack of expertise and qualifications, the Ombudsman said.

After receiving the permit, Requinto executed a deal with the Montesclaroses to operate his gravel-crushing plant.

The FIO said the issuance of the permit to Requinto and his subsequent deal with the Montesclaros were anomalous in several ways.

The Ombudsman said the company that came out of the Requinto-Montesclaros deal did not have complete processing permits from the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR).

And when he issued the permit, Tupas Sr. knew that his daughter-in-law, Binky April Montesclaros Tupas, and her father were involved in Requinto?s project, the Ombudsman said.

Illegal crushing operations

?The FIO adds that accused is in the best position to know that MMEI [the company] was using Requinto?s Isag [industrial sand and gravel] permit to conduct illegal crushing operations of raw materials extracted from other areas without the necessary mineral processing permit from the DENR,? the decision read.

Tupas Sr.'s relationship with the Montesclaroses gave Requinto's company unwarranted benefits and an undue advantage,? the Ombudsman said.

Thus, despite the violations committed by the firm, Tupas Sr. did not lift a finger [against them], the decision said.

ZnShzHtGqsU

YELLOW HYPOCRISY
YELLOW CORRUPTION

Tumutupas na naman si Tupas :lol:

Sermon ka na naman kay JPE at Miriam

ginisa na ni Sen. Miriam ang nagmamalinis na Dilaw na Hipokrito na si Tupas at pinagalitan ang Dilaw na abogadong nagmudsling ng Dilaw na Tsismis na pinagpilit nito. Prinangkahan na din ng Defense ang Dilaw na si Drilon na ginisa mismo sa sariling Dilaw na mantika at pinakain ang sariling Dilaw na salita.

ano ba yang post mo puro ka-dilawan na lang at yellow.

ano ba yang post mo puro ka-dilawan na lang at yellow.


Repetition yan, subliminal messaging at memory recall din, same strategy ginagawa ng ABiaS at OINKquirer para lumikha ng Yellow Zombie at Jejemon.

just giving them a dose of their own medicine, malala na kasi ang Hepatitis at Jaundice sa bansang ito.

Repetition yan, subliminal messaging at memory recall din, same strategy ginagawa ng ABiaS at OINKquirer para lumikha ng Yellow Zombie at Jejemon.

just giving them a dose of their own medicine, malala na kasi ang Hepatitis at Jaundice sa bansang ito.


ano to black magic?:nuts::nuts::nuts::lol:

mas effective ang sub liminal message mo nyan

ano to black magic?:nuts::nuts::nuts::lol:

it's called Yellow Black Magic

same magic used by the Yellow Sith SLAMAT LORRRD







with added incantation:

wang wang wang wang wang

it's called Yellow Black Magic

same magic used by the Yellow Sith SLAMAT LORRRD







with added incantation:

wang wang wang wang wang

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

never underestimate the power of the Yellow DARK force.


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halatang minadali ang pagpasa ng articles of impeachment sa congress ang tatanga ng prosecutors lalo na yun Tupas nasabon nanaman kanina... alam na nga nilang magagaling ang defense team eh hindi pa nila aralin mabuti yun mga arguments nila palibhasa mga wanna be re-elect congressman at senators kasi yan mga yan kya papogi ng papogi sa camera nagpapahaba ng air time... at press release pa lagi ng mga evidence mahilig pa mgpainterview sa mga tv station... pag hindi sila nagbago sa kangkungan sila pupulutin...

halatang minadali ang pagpasa ng articles of impeachment sa congress ang tatanga ng prosecutors lalo na yun Tupas nasabon nanaman kanina... alam na nga nilang magagaling ang defense team eh hindi pa nila aralin mabuti yun mga arguments nila palibhasa mga wanna be re-elect congressman at senators kasi yan mga yan kya papogi ng papogi sa camera nagpapahaba ng air time... at press release pa lagi ng mga evidence mahilig pa mgpainterview sa mga tv station... pag hindi sila nagbago sa kangkungan sila pupulutin...

delikado ang kangkungan dyan, magiging Dilaw ang kangkungan at di na tuloy mabenta.

I am not saying that Corona should be taken out of the Supreme Court but I think having this trial with all the news and information is somewhat positive. Bakit... kasi tingin ko ito ang magiging leksyon sa may mga balak na manungkulan sa ating bansa. Maaari sila hatulan kung gumagawa ng korupsyon sa pamamagitan ng pwesto nila. It's like having a cleansing in our government... from the top positions to the baranggay level. In other words... "sample" lang. It shows to the public that there is a way to see your transactions (kahit under the table) under Philippine Laws. =)

I concur.

Even rabid Palace apologist William Esposo believes Tupas should now be replaced.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=771327&publicationSubCategoryId=64

;87896252']I am not saying that Corona should be taken out of the Supreme Court but I think having this trial with all the news and information is somewhat positive. Bakit... kasi tingin ko ito ang magiging leksyon sa may mga balak na manungkulan sa ating bansa. Maaari sila hatulan kung gumagawa ng korupsyon sa pamamagitan ng pwesto nila. It's like having a cleansing in our government... from the top positions to the baranggay level. In other words... "sample" lang. It shows to the public that there is a way to see your transactions (kahit under the table) under Philippine Laws. =)

if this country really wants to address its long embedded corruption and ills, then that may be the moment when an abusive Oligarch is put on trial, if not here then Internationally. It would not be surprising when the root of the country's hardships, corruption will be traced, some way or another, to Oligarchic Greed.

If this country really wants to address corruption, we must hit it at its very core. We must start with the basics. We must start with the kids. If anyone would observe how parents are these days then you'll see the very root cause of corruption. For example, during christmas, parents will tell their kids go to uncles house and humingi ka ng aginaldo. During fiesta pumunta ka sa kapitbahay humingi ka ng pagkain. Puro na lang hingi. Kaya sa pagtanda ng bata, he thinks it is his right to beg for money or material things. Kapag may nakakuha ng bonus or nanalo sa lotto, the person MUST give away part of his money to the others. Pag di namigay nagagalit pa ang mga tao na di nabigyan. Kaya di mo masisi ang mga taong gobyerno bat sila corrupt, they feel its their God goven right na makakuha ng lagay at di pwedeng maliit na halaga lang. The solution i see is overhauling our education, focusing on culture and belief correction, strengthen our moral values, teach self respect and value dignity more than material things.

hindi ko masyadong napanood ang impeachment trial kanina pero naabutan ko ang Dilaw na abogado na parang ABiaS magsensationalize inapply-an ba naman ng shock-and-awe si Lady Sen. Miriam sa akalang tatalab :lol:, wala naman palang binatbat ang Dilaw mula sa mudslinger na kampo at tuloy nakatanggap ng nakakakilabot sa sermon mula sa Lady Senator kaya ang Dilaw na abugado walang nagawa kundi pumiyok na parang Dilaw na sisiw.


I strongly suspect that the machinery that unjustly mudslinged the Lady Senator and character assasinated her previously (she was painfully mudslinged about her sanity), which even caused her son to take his life, is the same machinery that mudslinged Villar, Ms. Gloria, and those who dared to defy the selfish interests of the country's ultimate corruptors, as their mudslinging strategy also have that hideous, sinister corruptive trademark.

One can easily suspect as none can match up to its crassness, pretentiousness, deceitfulness, hideousness, it's the same YELLOW MACHINERY.

Sen. Miriam Santiago will soon be part of the International Criminal Court, the first Asian to do so. May the Lady Senator continue to seek and achieve true Justice not only for others, but also deservingly for herself.

Im astounding with this thread. Most of the sscer's who post are one-sided. The substance has not only resulted to their hate on society under the current administration but also led to name calling: yellow this, yellow that~ lol. Wouldnt it be best to just change the title of the thread to: The People's animosity towards Pnoy's administration in impeaching CJ Corona.

Kailan pa ba natin maririnig yung defense panel?

Tagal naman. :lol:

^^ Miriam is eating Tupas :lol:

Kakabalik lang, sabak agad

It seems that Tupas answered her question correctly by accident regarding what type of witness is Henares. Nagconsult pa sa mga prosecutors. :lol:

^^ Seriously, Tupas has got to go.

^^ Seriously, Tupas has got to go.

Imagine if Tupas answered that Henares is an expert witness - she would be grilled there with all the hypothetical questions hurled by Brenda. That lady don't play! :lol:

Henares was really fit to the description as an ordinary witness based on her testimony and the extent of knowledge she shared with us in the court.

Now, it would be interesting to hear the defense.

Matagal pa ata ang defense kasi puro prosecution muna. Problem with prosecution as noted by the senator judges except for prosecutor-drillon is that the prosecution team is doing an illegal fishing expedition. They formed that article of impeachment with no solid evidence hoping that they can gather the evidences as the impeachment process gets going. And theyre getting those evidences from the respondent himself, corona. They first ask for the cj's saln now the itr from the bir. This is crazy. Ultmately this will spell the downfall of the prosecution team at least for article 2.

Matagal pa ata ang defense kasi puro prosecution muna. Problem with prosecution as noted by the senator judges except for prosecutor-drillon is that the prosecution team is doing an illegal fishing expedition. They formed that article of impeachment with no solid evidence hoping that they can gather the evidences as the impeachment process gets going. And theyre getting those evidences from the respondent himself, corona. They first ask for the cj's saln now the itr from the bir. This is crazy. Ultmately this will spell the downfall of the prosecution team at least for article 2.

Also, they think they could just get away with haphazard filing of the Articles of Impeachment and do a blitzkrieg of publicity mudslinging on CJ Corona thinking they could bully him into resigning. Good thing, that CJ Corona remained steadfast and is fighting it out. These people are such bullies when they are such dirty politicians. They themselves have not filed their own SALNs. The nerve!

Matagal pa ata ang defense kasi puro prosecution muna. Problem with prosecution as noted by the senator judges except for prosecutor-drillon is that the prosecution team is doing an illegal fishing expedition. They formed that article of impeachment with no solid evidence hoping that they can gather the evidences as the impeachment process gets going. And theyre getting those evidences from the respondent himself, corona. They first ask for the cj's saln now the itr from the bir. This is crazy. Ultmately this will spell the downfall of the prosecution team at least for article 2.

Evidence is evidence, whether it's a strong one or a weak one at least they presented them. It would be more interesting to know what the defense have to say in rebutting them.

Also, they think they could just get away with haphazard filing of the Articles of Impeachment and do a blitzkrieg of publicity mudslinging on CJ Corona thinking they could bully him into resigning. Good thing, that CJ Corona remained steadfast and is fighting it out. These people are such bullies when they are such dirty politicians. They themselves have not filed their own SALNs. The nerve!

Yes, it makes all of them impeachable as far as their personal balance sh*t is concerned. :lol:

Im astounding with this thread. Most of the sscer's who post are one-sided. The substance has not only resulted to their hate on society under the current administration but also led to name calling: yellow this, yellow that~ lol. Wouldnt it be best to just change the title of the thread to: The People's animosity towards Pnoy's administration in impeaching CJ Corona.

no need to act surprised, the Yellow Camp is the worst mudslinging, hypocritical, deceitful machinery in the country's history

it will always deserve (well baked) mudpies thrown back to its mudslinging, to get a dose of its own medicine (works better with more lethal dosage) and will always deserve to eat its own words (preferably sprinkled with spices),

and it will even be in service to the interest of Humanity that one should not allow the corruptive Yellow mudslinging hypocrisy, Yellow talangka mentality of mediocrity and incompetence to influence the noble values of World Humanity :yes: :naughty: :okay:

^ Agree. @tigidig: You should know better.

why should i not know better?...Lol

skyion had probably quoted me upon what Lil said but i couldnt care less what he thinks, such a waste of space, lo and behold: I already had him put in ignore list

The thing is, there was so much "pro-Cory" before PNoy took office that I didn't even know the 'Yellow mentality' existed. Before I found out, I hated Marcos.

But now, the story untold by the media seems to make more sense than the whole "I've been in the Philippines all my life and Marcos never went after me, but surely he will assassinate me just as I am surrounded by the press exiting an aircraft in broad daylight."

why should i not know better?...Lol

skyion had probably quoted me upon what Lil said but i couldnt care less what he thinks, such a waste of space, lo and behold: I already had him put in ignore list


works fine with me don't bother with my ideas, it ain't for you anyway :lol:

kawangwang naman, me is iggied for dumping the hypocritical mudslingers' Yellow Lies :cry:



:rofl:

The thing is, there was so much "pro-Cory" before PNoy took office that I didn't even know the 'Yellow mentality' existed. Before I found out, I hated Marcos.

But now, the story untold by the media seems to make more sense than the whole "I've been in the Philippines all my life and Marcos never went after me, but surely he will assassinate me just as I am surrounded by the press exiting an aircraft in broad daylight."


and the Yellow Media deleted the part that he and Marcos actually agreed to distribute Hacienda Luisita to the farmers with Marcos already signing it into law, and that Cory Cojuangco wanted to divorce him.

Im astounding with this thread. Most of the sscer's who post are one-sided. The substance has not only resulted to their hate on society under the current administration but also led to name calling: yellow this, yellow that~ lol. Wouldnt it be best to just change the title of the thread to: The People's animosity towards Pnoy's administration in impeaching CJ Corona.

Tigs, i know you are shocked by the unanimity of responses here against the impeachement of Corona, but you can change that by being a strong voice advocating for his impeachment.

I'd just like to add to the discussion.

If Chief Justice Corona is impeached due to his SALN, would that set a precedent throughout all the branches of the government making almost all officials in the Philippines subject to impeachment???? I mean do we honestly think that the SALN of our representatives and senators are free of questionable transactions???

I think this whole impeachment has also brought up a very important topic for debate

Can justices of the supreme court be impeached based on ideology and political alliances???
We know that supreme court justices are fetted by the senate during the nomination process, in which im sure all of the nominated justices profess their strict adherance to interpretation of the law instead of imposing their political or personal preferrences, but we all know this is a half truth for all nominees, so when justices start to show their political leanings and preferences while already serving the court, can this be reason enough for impeachment?

sad truth is, thats what put him down. his wrong move with arroyo "alliance" plays large prominently, it wasnt only his saln that could justify that. things have just heated up obviously, although very boring i may say :lol: its not because his dubious act but the way he just whip things right out, so gma can try to cop out or dodge what she did. its highly unethical that a cj has an ability to do that is crazy, therefore, reason for him not to be entrusted

;87896252']I am not saying that Corona should be taken out of the Supreme Court but I think having this trial with all the news and information is somewhat positive. Bakit... kasi tingin ko ito ang magiging leksyon sa may mga balak na manungkulan sa ating bansa. Maaari sila hatulan kung gumagawa ng korupsyon sa pamamagitan ng pwesto nila. It's like having a cleansing in our government... from the top positions to the baranggay level. In other words... "sample" lang. It shows to the public that there is a way to see your transactions (kahit under the table) under Philippine Laws. =) nakakalinis ba pag madumi ang pinanglinis at naglilinis?

Never allow the unethical and deceitful hypocrisy of the Yellow Camp that used even "tong"ressmen by signing an impeachment document without even reading it, whose principles are cheaply sold by pork barrel dangled like carrot on a stick used to prod donkeys, to succeed in manipulating this sacred land.

sad truth is, thats what put him down. his wrong move with arroyo "alliance" plays large prominently, it wasnt only his saln that could justify that. things have just heated up obviously, although very boring i may say :lol: its not because his dubious act but the way he just whip things right out, so gma can try to cop out or dodge what she did. its highly unethical that a cj has an ability to do that is crazy, therefore, reason for him not to be entrusted

REad your facts and the law, Tigidig. It was a majority decision by the Supreme Court and not just Corona alone. CJ Corona did not just whip it out of his belt. Of course, if there is no case yet filed against GMA, why would you prevent her from travelling abroad? The right to travel and to be presumed innocent until proven guilty are rights of the individual against the State as enshrined in the Philippine Constitution. A TRO is meant to preserve the status quo. The SC has discretion to issue it ex parte and it also can determine if there is already substantial compliance with its conditions. Nagpapadala ka sa media at propaganda. Ang hindi mo alam o pilit kang nagbubulag-bulagan ay yung dark underbelly kung bakit gusto nilang tanggalin si Corona at ang ibang SC Justices. Susunod-sunorin daw nila. Eh kasi, gusto ni PNoy iluklok yung sarili niyang appointees para lahat ng kaso niya maipanalo niya. Utusan ba naman i-defy ng Sec. of Justice niya ang lawful order of the Supreme Court. Violation of separation of powers of the branches of government. Culpable violation of the Constitution. Impeachable.

sad truth is, thats what put him down. his wrong move with arroyo "alliance" plays large prominently, it wasnt only his saln that could justify that. things have just heated up obviously, although very boring i may say :lol: its not because his dubious act but the way he just whip things right out, so gma can try to cop out or dodge what she did. its highly unethical that a cj has an ability to do that is crazy, therefore, reason for him not to be entrusted

Tigs wake up buddy... You are buying into the misinformation of the media. You cannot impeach a chief justice on basis of supposed political alliance or accused bias in favor of a particular political party. NO LAW WAS BROKEN and the supreme court voting UNANIMOUSLY defended their decision with full interpretation of the law. The administration however could not defend their moves through interpretation of the law and that's why they have brought their case to the media through misinformation and character assassination. They get rid of Corona but in the end that is just one justice out of several more, do they intend to kick out every single justice until they submit to the will of malacanang????? That is bullying and it is PURE and SIMPLE an encroachment into the independance of the judiciary. NOW THAT IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.

If there is anyone to blame its the incompetance of this administration in handling the case against Arroyo. In gathering evidence and in building their case against Arroyo, they have been so disorganized and chaotic, that they have desperately taken their case to the public through brainwashing. Its pathetic actually, and that's how this administration has handled everything since its beginning, mishandling the economy, infrastructure, foreign affairs, etc.....

Come to think of it, by the time the Aquino administration had squandered all its years gutting the membership of the Supreme Court, there might not even be enough time to prosecute GMA anymore.

Multitasking seems to be the least of its abilities.

Come to think of it, by the time the Aquino administration had squandered all its years gutting the membership of the Supreme Court, there might not even be enough time to prosecute GMA anymore.

Multitasking seems to be the least of its abilities.

the question is whether the country would still remain intact under the deceit of this puppet Yellow administration, if civil unrest would not cause it instigated by Oligarchic Greed and continuing injustice and strife resulting from the root of its ills.

Even the Mother Planet revolts once again making the country the most disaster stricken in the World for 2011, just like the time when it similarly was rated such during the Cory administration with the country lambasted by typhoons, earthquake, volcanic eruptions, as even the Mother Planet reacts to the very negative Karma of YELLOW HYPOCRISY, LIES, DECEIT.

And unfortunately, The Philippine economy is slow during the current administration.

OMG... Wonder what payment terms and what those so called "defective areas" in the said Bellagio penthouse unit that would warrant a total of 40% discount amounting to P10M. Kalokohan! Baka naman lagay yan kay Thief Justice este Chief Justice Corona. Bottomline is sobrang mura nakuha ni Corona yang penthouse unit and now they are doing a poor job trying to explain why. To make matters worse, the statement of Corona's lawyer(s) actually hurts/tarnishes Megaworld's reputation because it paints MW in a bad light (shoddy developer) especially after being named the country's top developer of the year. Dami pa naman nilang projects ngayon so dapat lang protektahan nila ang pangalan at reputasyon nila. MW should sue if none of this is actually true to teach these guys a lesson. :bash:

P10-M discount on condo not unusual
By Helen Flores (The Philippine Star)
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=772939&publicationSubCategoryId=63

MANILA, Philippines - There was nothing unusual about Chief Justice Renato Corona’s receiving P10-million discount for his purchase of a penthouse unit at the upscale Bellagio in Bonifacio Global City in Taguig, the chief magistrate’s lawyers said yesterday.

“It is not unusual to give discount, the standard is 15 to 20 percent,” defense panel spokesperson Karen Jimeno said.

Jimeno also noted that the unit purchased by Corona and his wife Cristina has “defective areas” which need to be rectified or repaired. Jimeno said the couple bought the condominium unit at the height of the financial crisis and “it would not be unusual (for the developer) to give 40 percent discount.”

During Corona’s impeachment trial, private prosecutor Joseph Joemer Perez said he received information from Megaworld finance director Giovanni Ng that Corona received a P10-million discount for the 300-square-meter Bellagio property, which was purchased for P14 million.

Ng said the sales and marketing department usually gives up to a 15 percent discount to clients who avail of shorter term payments for units.

OMG... Wonder what payment terms and what those so called "defective areas" in the said Bellagio penthouse unit that would warrant a total of 40% discount amounting to P10M. Kalokohan! Baka naman lagay yan kay Thief Justice este Chief Justice Corona. Bottomline is sobrang mura nakuha ni Corona yang penthouse unit and now they are doing a poor job trying to explain why. To make matters worse, the statement of Corona's lawyer(s) actually hurts/tarnishes Megaworld's reputation because it paints MW in a bad light (shoddy developer) especially after being named the country's top developer of the year. Dami pa naman nilang projects ngayon so dapat lang protektahan nila ang pangalan at reputasyon nila. MW should sue if none of this is actually true to teach these guys a lesson. :bash:

P10-M discount on condo not unusual
By Helen Flores (The Philippine Star)
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=772939&publicationSubCategoryId=63

[U][I][B]MANILA, Philippines - There was nothing unusual about Chief Justice Renato Corona’s receiving P10-million discount for his purchase of a penthouse unit at the upscale Bellagio in Bonifacio Global City in Taguig, the chief magistrate’s lawyers said yesterday.



http://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri2004/mar2004/gr_156200_2004.html


scratch my back and i'll scratch yours. :lol::lol::lol: nagkalintikan na. :lol:

nabubuking na tuloy mga tao.

corona save megaworld's ass to the tune of P25m. :lol::lol:

I would love to have a P10M discount. :lol:

I would love to have a P10M discount. :lol:

actually, hindi lang 10m ang discount. :lol::lol::lol:

pare, pag may alam ka na ganyan kalaki discount, sabihin mo sa akin ha.

kaya natatawa lang talaga ako dito for those claiming that corona purchases has no relation to ehem, the various discounts and cases. :lol::lol:

^^ Guess for those planning to buy a unit from Megaworld, make sure to make it a point to ask for the Corona pricing/discount! I would! Hehehe... :lol: :lol: :lol:

^^ Guess for those planning to buy a unit from Megaworld, make sure to make it appoint to ask for the Corona pricing/discount! I would! Hehehe... :lol: :lol: :lol:

hingi ka rin ng tip ni "mr. condo himself", VP binay. :lol::lol::lol:

I mean who wouldn't? Parang nanalo ka na rin sa lotto nyan. :lol:

Kahit yung mga nandito sa SSC mapa anti or pro pnoy kukuha nyan kung bibili ng condo. :lol:

a chief justice who cannot liberate himself from the influence of "past" is digging his own grave...

the Cojuangco OLIGARCH are now sucking your public taxpayers money by dragging the whole country to expensive impeachment trial at the cost of wasted lawmakers' time while the economy lags down and poverty worsens, and even threatening to cause division from among Filipinos and possible civil unrest, all in the name of Hacienda Luisita!

while clueless, hypocritical mudslinging yellowtards it manipulates are like Hepa virus that further sicken this country :ohno:


OLIGARCHY is the true guilty offender against the interest of this country!

P10-M discount on condo not unusual
By Helen Flores (The Philippine Star)
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=772939&publicationSubCategoryId=63

MANILA, Philippines - There was nothing unusual about Chief Justice Renato Corona’s receiving P10-million discount for his purchase of a penthouse unit at the upscale Bellagio in Bonifacio Global City in Taguig, the chief magistrate’s lawyers said yesterday.

http://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri2004/mar2004/gr_156200_2004.html

scratch my back and i'll scratch yours. :lol::lol::lol: nagkalintikan na. :lol:

nabubuking na tuloy mga tao.

corona save megaworld's ass to the tune of P25m. :lol::lol:

Or maybe the CJ blackmailed MW into giving the incredible 40% discount!!!! In short, coercion (kikil).

Megaworld should definitely sue then if they were indeed blackmailed/coerced especially now that this pricing anomaly is in the open. Keeping silent about this issue does not do them any good because they'll come across as a guilty party as well (discounted pricing for favorable decision kind of deal). Kung di naman guilty ang MW, pwedeng-pwede rin silang maging star witness for the prosecution to bring light to the case. This may be the break the prosecution needs to be able to get Chief Justice Corona impeached.

OMG... Wonder what payment terms and what those so called "defective areas" in the said Bellagio penthouse unit that would warrant a total of 40% discount amounting to P10M. Kalokohan! Baka naman lagay yan kay Thief Justice este Chief Justice Corona. Bottomline is sobrang mura nakuha ni Corona yang penthouse unit and now they are doing a poor job trying to explain why. To make matters worse, the statement of Corona's lawyer(s) actually hurts/tarnishes Megaworld's reputation because it paints MW in a bad light (shoddy developer) especially after being named the country's top developer of the year. Dami pa naman nilang projects ngayon so dapat lang protektahan nila ang pangalan at reputasyon nila. MW should sue if none of this is actually true to teach these guys a lesson. :bash:



Megaworld should definitely sue if they were indeed blackmailed/coerced especially now that this pricing anomaly is in the open. Keeping silent about this issue does not do them any good. Pwede rin silang maging star witness for the prosecution to bring light to the case. This may be the break the prosecution needs to be able to finally get Chief Justice Corona impeached.



typical baseless mongering, gossiping, Yellow Mudslinger, Yellow self-righteous hypocrisy, Yellow black propaganda


certified Yellowtard Hepa virus

Megaworld should definitely sue if they were indeed blackmailed/coerced especially now that it's in the open. Keeping silent about this does not do them any good. Pwede rin silang maging star witness for the prosecution to bring light to the case. This may be the break the prosecution needs to be able to finally get Chief Justice Corona impeached.

i don't think it was extortion but more of a thank you and scratch my back and i scratch yours, kasi may basis naman talaga ang kaso.

even carpio-morales concurred, but out of delicadeza, i doubt bumili si carpio-morales ng condo from megaworld.

dun sila nagkakaiba. :lol::lol:

and of course, megaworld people will save their own asses by claiming defective this, defective that. kasi pag inamin nila otherwise, criminally liable sila under the graft and corrupt practices act. :lol:

i don't think it was extortion but more of a thank you and scratch my back and i scratch yours, kasi may basis naman talaga ang kaso.

and of course, megaworld people will save their own asses by claiming defective this, defective that. kasi pag inamin nila otherwise, criminally liable sila under the graft and corrupt practices act. :lol:

^^ That's indeed what likely happened. Now I wonder if the Prosecution can give Megaworld "Immunity" then to get them to spill the beans so to speak without fear of getting prosecuted themselves. Their testimony can be the smoking gun proof the Prosecution needs to show/prove corruption in the part of the chief justice. After all in the end of the day si Corona naman talaga ang kanilang target na ma-impeach, at hindi MW.

^^

mongering and mudslinging hepa viruses, the megaworld guy already reiterated in reply to Sen. Estrada that it's not their practice to give special treatment to famous personalities

kesa dada kayo diyan at mag-infect ng hepa virus na walang basehan kundi tsismisan matuto kayong manood gamit mata at utak at hindi sa naninilaw na bunganga.

^^

mongering and mudslinging hepa viruses, the megaworld guy already reiterated in reply to Sen. Estrada that it's not their practice to give special treatment to famous personalities

kesa dada kayo diyan at mag-infect ng hepa virus na walang basehan kundi tsismisan matuto kayong manood gamit mata at utak at hindi sa naninilaw na bunganga.


^^ Hehehe...may pagka KSP ka din ano? If giving a 40% discount is not special treatment then people buying Megaworld units should make it a point to ask for the CJ Corona Discount then para meron din silang 40% discount. Megaworld should be able to offer/give the same kind of discount they gave Corona to every unit buyer who ask for it because as you mentioned this kind of discount is not special treatment to anyone according to Megaworld. Get Real! Ano sila hilo? Lokohin mo lelang mo! :lol: :lol: :lol:

i don't think it was extortion but more of a thank you and scratch my back and i scratch yours, kasi may basis naman talaga ang kaso.

even carpio-morales concurred, but out of delicadeza, i doubt bumili si carpio-morales ng condo from megaworld.

dun sila nagkakaiba. :lol::lol:

and of course, megaworld people will save their own asses by claiming defective this, defective that. kasi pag inamin nila otherwise, criminally liable sila under the graft and corrupt practices act. :lol:

I agree that this transaction was inappropriate. It was a lapse in judgement on Corona's part that's difficult to defend. If a case against megaworld were to reach the supreme court , it begs to question, would he excuse himself???

But, is this transaction an impeachable offense??? Can a supreme court justice be impeached solely on this transaction??? If he can be impeached due to this transaction, im betting EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE CAN BE IMPEACHED! and how do we know that carpio-morales did not due anything similar, should he release his SALN???

Perhaps we should make it a requirement for every single judicial nominee to release their SALN before confirmation.

WAIT, EVEN BETTER, we should make it a requirement for every single Representative and Senator to release their SALN.

^^ That's indeed what likely happened. Now I wonder if the Prosecution can give Megaworld "Immunity" then to get them to spill the beans so to speak without fear of getting prosecuted themselves. Their testimony can be the smoking gun proof the Prosecution needs to show/prove corruption in the part of the chief justice. After all in the end of the day si Corona naman talaga ang kanilang target na ma-impeach, at hindi MW.

Fishing for evidence much?? What else can Megaworld say about Corona other than they gave him a discount?? Maybe they can say "we gave him a discount because our projects are substandard and we need to protect the company just incase" (SARCASM INTENDED)

I agree that this transaction was inappropriate. It was a lapse in judgement on Corona's part that's difficult to defend. If a case against megaworld were to reach the supreme court , it begs to question, would he excuse himself???

But, is this transaction an impeachable offense??? Can a supreme court justice be impeached solely on this transaction??? If he can be impeached due to this transaction, im betting EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE CAN BE IMPEACHED! and how do we know that carpio-morales did not due anything similar, should he release his SALN???

Perhaps we should make it a requirement for every single judicial nominee to release their SALN before confirmation.

WAIT, EVEN BETTER, we should make it a requirement for every single Representative and Senator to release their SALN.

inappropriate would be too kind a term kasi, dapat nag iinhibit ka from cases that you will have pecuniary interest. or you will never know if he was promised anything, but i would not take it against him.

is this an impeachable offense, if you apply the totality doctrine and notice the pattern of undervaluation, discounted purchases, sale to your children? :lol::lol::lol: any impartial observer would realize that this cj is not in the mold of davide, puno and panganiban. :lol::lol::lol:

justice plagiar castillo? never in the history of the supreme court since the time of umbrella boy justice to imelda has this court been vilified or mocked, whichever is the worse among the two.

:lol:

lastly, members of the congress, whether house of raperesentatives cannot be impeached. recall or elections is the key to booting them out.

Yup inhibit is the right thing to do in such a case or there will be a perceived conflict of interest. I can hardly believe Chief Justice Corona as being either pretty naive or not too bright to allow himself to be put in such a compromising position. He should know better, more so because he is part of the Philippines justice system which should remain impartial and uncorruptible. And unfortunately perception and truth can be a blurry line and now he is paying for it.

How can Corona in good/clear conscience allow one's self to accept a 40% discount amounting to P10M from Megaworld and not think the very perception alone that this can be interpreted as taking a bribe (true or not) can compromise and ruin not only him, his career, and even worse by defacto the whole Philippine judiciary system. It's just so wrong and irresponsible, especially holding the position he has. And sadly they're not really doing such a good job explaining how/why 40% discount or P10M came to be if there is really no anomaly? I for one would really like to know.

Curious how they can make us all believe that a 40% discount is normal and not special treatment done in favor for the Chief Justice? Because if such is really the case, then people buying Megaworld units should make it a point to ask for the CJ Corona Discount then para meron din silang 40% discount. I would. And Megaworld should be able to offer/give the same kind of discount they gave Corona to every unit buyer who ask for it if it's the norm like they say but we very well know it's really not so I can not get such a deal even if I wanted to. Pero kung meron pang ganyang deal like Corona's, I am definitely interested. That's a no brainer!

inappropriate would be too kind a term kasi, dapat nag iinhibit ka from cases that you will have pecuniary interest. or you will never know if he was promised anything, but i would not take it against him.

is this an impeachable offense, if you apply the totality doctrine and notice the pattern of undervaluation, discounted purchases, sale to your children? :lol::lol::lol: any impartial observer would realize that this cj is not in the mold of davide, puno and panganiban. :lol::lol::lol:

justice plagiar castillo? never in the history of the supreme court since the time of umbrella boy justice to imelda has this court been vilified or mocked, whichever is the worse among the two.

:lol:

lastly, members of the congress, whether house of raperesentatives cannot be impeached. recall or elections is the key to booting them out.


Well i wouldn't mind a recall of all members of congress... the hard part about that is that it must be initiated by the public, to which a majority can be bought by politicians. Ah... a hopeless case.

I don't know much about law and its specifics, im a nurse so that's totally out of my league. But it seems to me like an infarction not worthy of impeachment. I mean if you have to dig really deep to prove that laws had been broken... Im not swayed...

Curious how they can make us all believe that a 40% discount is normal and not special treatment done in favor for the Chief Justice? Because if such is really the case, then people buying Megaworld units should make it a point to ask for the CJ Corona Discount then para meron din silang 40% discount. I would. And Megaworld should be able to offer/give the same kind of discount they gave Corona to every unit buyer who ask for it if it's the norm like they say but we very well know it's really not so I can not get such a deal even if I wanted to. Pero kung meron pang ganyang deal like Corona's, I am definitely interested. That's a no brainer!

Sir, sa diyaryo lang pala makikita mo na 40% discount sa mga Condo diyan offer sa lahat as per Manny Villar, tutal marami kang datung grab it. Yong bahay nga namin na binaha nang Ondoy, halos nawalan nang value, just to give the family some sort of psychological uplift, pinaayos namin. Ngayon patong-patong naman ang sinisingil na taxes. Pigaan na ang labanan kahit biktima.

Well i wouldn't mind a recall of all members of congress... the hard part about that is that it must be initiated by the public, to which a majority can be bought by politicians. Ah... a hopeless case.

I don't know much about law and its specifics, im a nurse so that's totally out of my league. But it seems to me like an infarction not worthy of impeachment. I mean if you have to dig really deep to prove that laws had been broken... Im not swayed...

judges and justices are held to a very high standard, not only there must be no impropriety but the appearance of impropriety.

not only this megaworld case, but also the pattern of undervaluation which gives credence that all his finances didn't add up. to focus on this example,

1. he bought a 25m condo for P14m.
2. he bought it supposedly for a discount.
3. he declared it saln for only P6m.

seriously, why do you have to do it if you are not hiding anything.

for me, it is an attempt to hide your wealth. if he did, it would show the exact values of his properties and show unexplainable increase in his wealth despite his 700k a year salary.

for example, he is earning less than 1m a year, how can he buy a property worth 14m in cash? even to believe the note that they used a cash proceeds from the sale of two properties to buy it, still malaki pa rin balance.

Sir, sa diyaryo lang pala makikita mo na 40% discount sa mga Condo diyan offer sa lahat as per Manny Villar, tutal marami kang datung grab it. Yong bahay nga namin na binaha nang Ondoy, halos nawalan nang value, just to give the family some sort of psychological uplift, pinaayos namin. Ngayon patong-patong naman ang sinisingil na taxes. Pigaan na ang labanan kahit biktima.

huge sales discounts are last ditch efforts to offload inventory, iba nga 70% for shoes.

but condo's are a different matter kasi real estate yan.

^^ Hehehe...may pagka KSP ka din ano? If giving a 40% discount is not special treatment then people buying Megaworld units should make it a point to ask for the CJ Corona Discount then para meron din silang 40% discount. Megaworld should be able to offer/give the same kind of discount they gave Corona to every unit buyer who ask for it because as you mentioned this kind of discount is not special treatment to anyone according to Megaworld. Get Real! Ano sila hilo? Lokohin mo lelang mo! :lol: :lol: :lol:

whatta Kukoteng Semi Putong Dilaw, you should use your puto first before that jaundiced mouth, the property was lambasted by typhoon that rendered damages to the unit reducing it at a bargained price offered to any buyer.

it's your puto that really needs special treatment, seems it's getting rancid it's turning yellowish already.

Megaworld is a professional company, don't compare it with your mudslinging, mongering Hepatitis Camp that sold its soul dirt cheap to the SLAMAT oligarchLORRRD

Even if you check the Bellagio thread here in SSC, MW was offering 25% discount for those who can close on the units fast. On top of that, they can reduce the cost of the unit if there defects or problems. It's called Freedom to Contract between the parties. Moreover, it's not uncommon for those based abroad to have your relatives pay off your condo purchase and the O.R. issued in their names. I have done the same thing.

Even the prosecution's own witness stated that it is not an uncommon practice that they can give to everyone across the board.

Megaworld both won and lost cases in the SC. I wait it out and observe the proceedings before I gloat.

(I qualify this last statement because I can never gloat for whatever the outcome of this impeachment proceeding will be because of the damage that these roguish congressmen as backed up by the self-serving Administration have done to our democratic institutions all for selfish reasons. As they say, "Hey Mr. Pot, let's call the kettle black.") It's never altruistic as they make it out to be.

Even if you check the Bellagio thread here in SSC, MW was offering 25% discount for those who can close on the units fast. On top of that, they can reduce the cost of the unit if there defects or problems. It's called Freedom to Contract between the parties. Moreover, it's not uncommon for those based abroad to have your relatives pay off your condo purchase and the O.R. issued in their names. I have done the same thing.

Even the prosecution's own witness stated that it is not an uncommon practice that they can give to everyone across the board.

Megaworld both won and lost cases in the SC. I wait it out and observe the proceedings before I gloat.

(I qualify this last statement because I can never gloat for whatever the outcome of this impeachment proceeding will be because of the damage that these roguish congressmen as backed up by the self-serving Administration have done to our democratic institutions all for selfish reasons. As they say, "Hey Mr. Pot, let's call the kettle black.") It's never altruistic as they make it out to be.


Hay nako pare pareho lang mga pulitiko. All of them have skeletons hidden in their closets. Corona was just unfortunate enough to be facing this problem. Other politicians have even bigger houses and much much more real estate properties. For example Senator Drillon lives in forbes, his current residence is worth P195million, which is under the name of her daughter. Her daugther bought the house some 10 years ago for P130million. So we all know that Drillon has been a senator for many many years already and before that serves as DOJ secretary of cory aquino. With govt salary being soooo low how and where the hell did he get the money to buy a P130million home in forbes park no less? His daughter may certainly not be that rich to afford one too. Senator's drillon situation is parallel to that of cj corona. Corona bought the condo unit under his daughter's name too but we all know it was corona who paid for the unit. Kaya pare pareho lang yan. I watch the impeachment everyday not because I believe in the process nor do i believe in what pnoy is fighting for, I watched the impeachment proceedings solely for its entertainment values. :lol:

judges and justices are held to a very high standard, not only there must be no impropriety but the appearance of impropriety.

not only this megaworld case, but also the pattern of undervaluation which gives credence that all his finances didn't add up. to focus on this example,

1. he bought a 25m condo for P14m.
2. he bought it supposedly for a discount.
3. he declared it saln for only P6m.

seriously, why do you have to do it if you are not hiding anything.

for me, it is an attempt to hide your wealth. if he did, it would show the exact values of his properties and show unexplainable increase in his wealth despite his 700k a year salary.

for example, he is earning less than 1m a year, how can he buy a property worth 14m in cash? even to believe the note that they used a cash proceeds from the sale of two properties to buy it, still malaki pa rin balance.

Prosecution told: Drop Corona's 'discount' (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/01/31/12/prosecution-told-drop-coronas-discount)

MANILA, Philippines - Senator-judge Aquilino 'Koko' Pimentel III told the prosecution today not to include anymore the issue of the P10-million "discount," received by Chief Justice Renato Corona from Megaworld Corp. in his purchase of a penthouse unit in The Bellagio, in the impeachment trial.

In response to a question from Pimentel, private prosecutor Joseph Joemer Perez on Monday said he was told by Megaworld's finance director Giovanni Ng that the real estate firm gave a 40% discount to Corona. The prosecution said Corona's acceptance of the discount violated the anti-graft law as well as the judicial code of conduct and the code of conduct for public officials.

The revelation about the whopping 40% discount worth P10 million made headlines of major newspapers and news websites.

On Tuesday, however, Pimentel said: “Payong kapatid sa prosecution…hindi kami nakumbinsi sa ‘discount’ sa Article 2, huwag niyo nang pilitin [ang discount] sa Article 3." :naughty: :naughty:


Private prosecutor Joseph Joemer Perez earlier said the P10-million discount falls under the purview of article 2, which is the alleged untruthfulness of the contents of Corona’s Statement of Assets, Liabilities and Net worth (SALN).

Perez said the issue of the discount can also be used under article 3, which discusses the alleged lack of integrity on the part of Corona. He said government officials should not accept substantial favors from people they are dealing with.

In Tuesday’s hearing, the witness of the prosecution turned out not to have bolstered their case by presenting Megaworld senior vice-president for marketing and sales Noli Hernandez as its witness.

Hernandez told the impeachment court on Tuesday that they voluntarily gave Corona a P10-million price reduction for his penthouse unit due to "force majeure" and not for any consideration from a high-ranking government official.

Later in the hearing, senator-judges Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. and Pia Cayetano also stood up, saying they could not connect the issue on the price reduction of the Bellagio unit to what has been alleged in Article 2. :naughty:

“I can’t make a connection between the testimony and how it impacts on the SALN, which you say is inaccurate,” he said.

...

naku, eastern dragon, abogado ka di ba? sumali ka nalang kaya sa prosecution panel, para dadami ang magmumukhang t*nga. :lol::lol: comedy show.

http://http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/

Megaworld statement
Megaworld exec: We received no favors from Corona

"These allegations are completely baseless and malicious. A cursory examination of the records of the Court's decisions, which are open to the public, including legal "analysts" and "commentators," would readily show that Megaworld has never requested nor obtained any favor from anyone in the Court, including the Chief Justice who is presently standing trial."

http://http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/

Megaworld statement
Megaworld exec: We received no favors from Corona

"These allegations are completely baseless and malicious. A cursory examination of the records of the Court's decisions, which are open to the public, including legal "analysts" and "commentators," would readily show that Megaworld has never requested nor obtained any favor from anyone in the Court, including the Chief Justice who is presently standing trial."

Megaworld should sue the Hepatitis Camp for mudslinging and mongering their reputation.

and they should boycott at sponsoring ABiaS & OINKqurier too, more sensible Filipinos don't get their news from those puppet media anyway, except of course yellow zombies

Actually the right term is "price adjustment" and not "discount", as reiterated by Megaworld's official statement. The witness also added that instead of renovating the damage penthouse which will cost them an estimated amount of more or less 5 million. They decided to sell it as it was, and fortunately, si Mrs. Corona ang isa sa mga interesadong clients.

Nakakatuwa kanina ang prosecution, kasi senator judges keep on questioning the prosecution kung anu ang connect sa article 2 which is about the SALN of CJ Corona ng witness. At saka pabalik balik lang ang tanung. Funny is, it seems they were questioning already the credibility of their own witness basing sa mga tanung nila..hahhahah

Prosecution told: Drop Corona's 'discount' (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/01/31/12/prosecution-told-drop-coronas-discount)

MANILA, Philippines - Senator-judge Aquilino 'Koko' Pimentel III told the prosecution today not to include anymore the issue of the P10-million "discount," received by Chief Justice Renato Corona from Megaworld Corp. in his purchase of a penthouse unit in The Bellagio, in the impeachment trial.

In response to a question from Pimentel, private prosecutor Joseph Joemer Perez on Monday said he was told by Megaworld's finance director Giovanni Ng that the real estate firm gave a 40% discount to Corona. The prosecution said Corona's acceptance of the discount violated the anti-graft law as well as the judicial code of conduct and the code of conduct for public officials.

The revelation about the whopping 40% discount worth P10 million made headlines of major newspapers and news websites.

On Tuesday, however, Pimentel said: “Payong kapatid sa prosecution…hindi kami nakumbinsi sa ‘discount’ sa Article 2, huwag niyo nang pilitin [ang discount] sa Article 3." :naughty: :naughty:


Private prosecutor Joseph Joemer Perez earlier said the P10-million discount falls under the purview of article 2, which is the alleged untruthfulness of the contents of Corona’s Statement of Assets, Liabilities and Net worth (SALN).

Perez said the issue of the discount can also be used under article 3, which discusses the alleged lack of integrity on the part of Corona. He said government officials should not accept substantial favors from people they are dealing with.

In Tuesday’s hearing, the witness of the prosecution turned out not to have bolstered their case by presenting Megaworld senior vice-president for marketing and sales Noli Hernandez as its witness.

Hernandez told the impeachment court on Tuesday that they voluntarily gave Corona a P10-million price reduction for his penthouse unit due to "force majeure" and not for any consideration from a high-ranking government official.

Later in the hearing, senator-judges Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. and Pia Cayetano also stood up, saying they could not connect the issue on the price reduction of the Bellagio unit to what has been alleged in Article 2. :naughty:

“I can’t make a connection between the testimony and how it impacts on the SALN, which you say is inaccurate,” he said.

...

naku, eastern dragon, abogado ka di ba? sumali ka nalang kaya sa prosecution panel, para dadami ang magmumukhang t*nga. :lol::lol: comedy show.


no wonder nagplaplano ng people power and yellow mob against SC dahil nakikita nilang walang panalo yang kaso nila, paulit-ulit na lang nababara ang prosecution nagmumukhang payaso tuloy sa national TV...IMHO this is the most destructive, non-essential and highly divisive comedy show...the show thats stalls the growth of our nation, the show that covers up the incompetence of this admin, the show that undermines our future, the show that put important would be laws like the RH bill in further delays....and finally the show that is orchestrated, masterminded and directed by your all righteous and divine leader...Pnoy:ohno::bash::ohno::bash:

Prosecution told: Drop Corona's 'discount' (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/01/31/12/prosecution-told-drop-coronas-discount)



In response to a question from Pimentel, private prosecutor Joseph Joemer Perez on Monday said he was told by Megaworld's finance director Giovanni Ng that the real estate firm gave a 40% discount to Corona. The prosecution said Corona's acceptance of the discount violated the anti-graft law as well as the judicial code of conduct and the code of conduct for public officials.

The revelation about the whopping 40% discount worth P10 million made headlines of major newspapers and news websites.


...

naku, eastern dragon, abogado ka di ba? sumali ka nalang kaya sa prosecution panel, para dadami ang magmumukhang t*nga. :lol::lol: comedy show.

Whahhahaa..at ang swabe ni Sen.Villar..sabay endorso sa SMDC na nag offer ng 40% discount to anybody and everybody. So, normal lang pala ito.

IIRC, si Corona ata ay naging ponente sa isang kaso which Megaworld won when he was still an AJ. (Atty. ED, correct me if I'm wrong).

no wonder nagplaplano ng people power and yellow mob against SC dahil nakikita nilang walang panalo yang kaso nila, paulit-ulit na lang nababara ang prosecution nagmumukhang payaso tuloy sa national TV...IMHO this is the most destructive, non-essential and highly divisive comedy show...the show thats stalls the growth of our nation, the show that covers up the incompetence of this admin, the show that undermines our future, the show that put important would be laws like the RH bill in further delays....and finally the show that is orchestrated, masterminded and directed by your all righteous and divine leader...Pnoy:ohno::bash::ohno::bash:

courtesy of our Showbiz government. hindi lang comedy show. may romance pa (latest guest star si Grace Lee :nuts:). it really is more fun in the philippines.

IIRC, si Corona ata ay naging ponente sa isang kaso which Megaworld won when he was still an AJ. (Atty. ED, correct me if I'm wrong).

All I know is based sa trial kanina..may two major cases dati ang megaworld na involved si CJ Corona. But then natalo ang Megaworld and around 47 million ang nawala sa kanila.

courtesy of our Showbiz government. hindi lang comedy show. may romance pa (latest guest star si Grace Lee :nuts:). it really is more fun in the philippines.

Napakashowbiz kasi ni Pnoy.

walang masama sa undervalue ang nilagay mo sa SALN kasi nagbayad ka ng tax, ang masama ang di pagbabayad ng tax

sino ba sa pinas ang nagbabayad ng tamang tax at tamang deklarasyon ng SALN?

lahat ng congressman ilifestyle check, pano sila nagkaroon ng tig lilimang kotse na 30,000 per month lang sahod nila

napakadungis ng mukha ng movement 188 para magturo ng dumi sa ibang tao

huge sales discounts are last ditch efforts to offload inventory, iba nga 70% for shoes.

but condo's are a different matter kasi real estate yan.


Atty, ang sapatos nga sabi mo naibibigay sa bargain nang 70% isang pares lang yon. So ganoon din ang sa real estate. Sa zoning laws diyan sa atin madaling laruin, gaya lang nang Eastwood na halos sky is the limit ang FAR ( Floor Area Ratio ) kaya mapapasin mo halos higanteng firewall-bakod na kung titingnan mo yong buong site. Kung tutuusin ay bawal yon lalo na sa massing pa lang bagsak na tapos ang setback at open space halos wala na. Kaya sulit na sulit yong investment nila sa property. Kahit anong space function pwede pa nilang ilagay ie, offices, residential, commercial at kahit anong klase nang mixed-used. Tubong Lugaw and if I am not mistaken that area is under Free Trade Zone agreement with the government kaya sa may mga tax incentives pa.

Hay nako pare pareho lang mga pulitiko. All of them have skeletons hidden in their closets. Corona was just unfortunate enough to be facing this problem. Other politicians have even bigger houses and much much more real estate properties. For example Senator Drillon lives in forbes, his current residence is worth P195million, which is under the name of her daughter. Her daugther bought the house some 10 years ago for P130million. So we all know that Drillon has been a senator for many many years already and before that serves as DOJ secretary of cory aquino. With govt salary being soooo low how and where the hell did he get the money to buy a P130million home in forbes park no less? His daughter may certainly not be that rich to afford one too. Senator's drillon situation is parallel to that of cj corona. Corona bought the condo unit under his daughter's name too but we all know it was corona who paid for the unit. Kaya pare pareho lang yan. I watch the impeachment everyday not because I believe in the process nor do i believe in what pnoy is fighting for, I watched the impeachment proceedings solely for its entertainment values. :lol:

Yeah, this impeach b/s makes you glad, mad and sad all at the same time.

Glad, because you're entertained, mad and sad for watching how they accuse their own reflection on the mirror. :lol:

Reminds me of a Disney song... to paraphrase for the sanctimonious hypocritical bastards, :lol:

Why are their reflections someone they don't know?

Say, why dont we rename that incorrigible country with its incorrigible electorate (with their appalling taste buds) the Republic of the Philistines. That would be more apt, I suppose.

Good it was finally explained that it's indeed not normal business practice to give out 40% discount... but it was done in this case not as a favor for Corona but due to force majeure. This is what I was looking for, a clear explanation as to how the rather large discount actually came about. Sufficient na itong explanation ng Megaworld that it no longer needs to be pursued any further...

Developer explains CJ condo discount
By Butch Fernandez / Reporter
Business Mirror
January 2012 21:38

THE defense lawyers of Chief Justice Renato Corona debunked allegations linking the discounted sale by Megaworld to the Coronas of a penthouse unit at the Bellagio Tower in Taguig with a number of cases at the Supreme Court involving the developer’s other property.

Appearing before the Impeachment Court on Tuesday, Megaworld Senior Vice President for Marketing Noli Hernandez also testified, under questioning by Senator-Judge Alan Cayetano, that Megaworld lost two cases involving P47 million in the Supreme Court when Corona was already in the SC.

Hernandez said there were several reasons for the P10-million discount to Corona. He said the condominium unit, then priced at P78,000 to P80,000 per square meter was damaged by a typhoon before it was sold to Corona in 2008.

“The original price was P24 million but in 2008 the situation drastically changed for the realty market environment,” he said, citing the Lehman Brothers debacle. “Unfortunately, there was also a typhoon and the unit sustained water damage and we decided its going to cost us more if we had it redone and opted to sell it at a discount instead.”

The prosecution earlier said the Bellagio property, which Corona had acquired in 2008, was not reported in his 2009 Statement of Assets, Liabilities and Net worth (SALN).

Asked by Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile if it was common for Megaworld to give such discounts, Hernandez replied: “No, sir. The discount was not a favor but due to force majeure.

Hernandez said the same discount, ranging from 15 percent to 20 percent, would have been given to any buyer other than Corona because they computed the cost of repairs and “decided it would be wiser to just sell the damaged unit at a discounted price.”

In a separate statement, defense panel spokesman Mon Esguerra disputed claims that Corona allegedly favored Megaworld in an SC decision. “The timing of the decision and the discount do not add up,” he said.

Esguerra also said that while the prosecution would have wanted to make it appear that the large discount given by Megaworld Properties and Holdings Inc. to Corona for his purchase of the Bellagio unit was a “favor,” the facts do not add up.

He said court records showed Megaworld Properties and Holdings Inc. v. Cobarde was written by then-Associate Justice Corona and was promulgated on March 31, 2004. The decision granted the petition of Megaworld and absolved it from the responsibility of paying broker’s commission in a compromise agreement. In the case, the Supreme Court ordered Megaworld to be paid P5,853,793.01 by the opposing parties.

“Connecting the decision to the alleged 40 percent discount amounting to P10 million requires some manipulative thinking,” Esguerra defense said. The circumstances of the sale reveal that the Bellagio condominium unit was bought in October 2008, with the last payment made in October 2009; the decision on the Megaworld case was written in March 2004.

“Esguerra said the decision was also concurred in by two other associate justices: Associate Justice Angelina Sandoval-Gutierrez, now retired, and Associate Justice Conchita Carpio-Morales, the current Ombudsman appointed by President Aquino.

Esguerra also said that in Megaworld Globus Asia Inc. v. Tanseco, a decision written by then Justice Carpio-Morales and promulgated on October 9, 2009, Megaworld lost the case for failure to complete and deliver a condominium unit to its buyer. Megaworld was ordered to pay P21,725,438.02. “The unfavorable ruling to Megaworld was concurred in by then-Justice Corona. Clearly, no favors there,” Esguerra said.

He also cited another case where Corona took part. The case was Megaworld Globus Asia Inc, vs Clerica Holdings Inc. in 2007 where Megaworld was ordered to pay P14,522,955.00, “Again, where was the favor there?” Esguerra asked.

Megaworld, in a statement to the media which listed the cases cited, said, “A cursory examination of the records of the Court’s decisions, which are open to the public, including legal ‘analysts’ and ‘commentators,’ would readily show that Megaworld has never requested nor obtained any favor from anyone in the Court, including the Chief Justice.”

It also said: “For the record, we wish to state that in all our business dealings with Chief Justice Corona, the company has neither solicited nor obtained any favor either from the Chief Justice or from the Court. The records of decided cases involving our company are open to scrutiny since the same form part of public documents. In all these cases, we have followed all judicial processes, availed of all legal remedies and abided by all the final decisions of the Court…. As a company, we shall continue to uphold the highest standard of ethical business practices.”

REad your facts and the law, Tigidig. It was a majority decision by the Supreme Court and not just Corona alone. CJ Corona did not just whip it out of his belt. Of course, if there is no case yet filed against GMA, why would you prevent her from travelling abroad? The right to travel and to be presumed innocent until proven guilty are rights of the individual against the State as enshrined in the Philippine Constitution. A TRO is meant to preserve the status quo. The SC has discretion to issue it ex parte and it also can determine if there is already substantial compliance with its conditions. Nagpapadala ka sa media at propaganda. Ang hindi mo alam o pilit kang nagbubulag-bulagan ay yung dark underbelly kung bakit gusto nilang tanggalin si Corona at ang ibang SC Justices. Susunod-sunorin daw nila. Eh kasi, gusto ni PNoy iluklok yung sarili niyang appointees para lahat ng kaso niya maipanalo niya. Utusan ba naman i-defy ng Sec. of Justice niya ang lawful order of the Supreme Court. Violation of separation of powers of the branches of government. Culpable violation of the Constitution. Impeachable.

Tigs wake up buddy... You are buying into the misinformation of the media. You cannot impeach a chief justice on basis of supposed political alliance or accused bias in favor of a particular political party. NO LAW WAS BROKEN and the supreme court voting UNANIMOUSLY defended their decision with full interpretation of the law. The administration however could not defend their moves through interpretation of the law and that's why they have brought their case to the media through misinformation and character assassination. They get rid of Corona but in the end that is just one justice out of several more, do they intend to kick out every single justice until they submit to the will of malacanang????? That is bullying and it is PURE and SIMPLE an encroachment into the independance of the judiciary. NOW THAT IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.

If there is anyone to blame its the incompetance of this administration in handling the case against Arroyo. In gathering evidence and in building their case against Arroyo, they have been so disorganized and chaotic, that they have desperately taken their case to the public through brainwashing. Its pathetic actually, and that's how this administration has handled everything since its beginning, mishandling the economy, infrastructure, foreign affairs, etc.....

lil: sige na nga kahit walang transparency sa sc
ben: kamara and not investigative journalism that duped cj in his iffy position

i can summarize these two by using Mang Tony's intro


SJOZch3uNGU

A feasible explanation from the defense. Moving on, moving on....

Good it was finally explained that it's indeed not normal business practice to give out 40% discount... but it was done in this case not as a favor for Corona but due to force majeure. This is what I was looking for, a clear explanation as to how the rather large discount actually came about. Sufficient na itong explanation ng Megaworld that it no longer needs to be pursued any further...

Developer explains CJ condo discount
By Butch Fernandez / Reporter
Business Mirror
January 2012 21:38

THE defense lawyers of Chief Justice Renato Corona debunked allegations linking the discounted sale by Megaworld to the Coronas of a penthouse unit at the Bellagio Tower in Taguig with a number of cases at the Supreme Court involving the developer’s other property.

Appearing before the Impeachment Court on Tuesday, Megaworld Senior Vice President for Marketing Noli Hernandez also testified, under questioning by Senator-Judge Alan Cayetano, that Megaworld lost two cases involving P47 million in the Supreme Court when Corona was already in the SC.

Hernandez said there were several reasons for the P10-million discount to Corona. He said the condominium unit, then priced at P78,000 to P80,000 per square meter was damaged by a typhoon before it was sold to Corona in 2008.

“The original price was P24 million but in 2008 the situation drastically changed for the realty market environment,” he said, citing the Lehman Brothers debacle. “Unfortunately, there was also a typhoon and the unit sustained water damage and we decided its going to cost us more if we had it redone and opted to sell it at a discount instead.”

The prosecution earlier said the Bellagio property, which Corona had acquired in 2008, was not reported in his 2009 Statement of Assets, Liabilities and Net worth (SALN).

Asked by Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile if it was common for Megaworld to give such discounts, Hernandez replied: “No, sir. The discount was not a favor but due to force majeure.

Hernandez said the same discount, ranging from 15 percent to 20 percent, would have been given to any buyer other than Corona because they computed the cost of repairs and “decided it would be wiser to just sell the damaged unit at a discounted price.”

In a separate statement, defense panel spokesman Mon Esguerra disputed claims that Corona allegedly favored Megaworld in an SC decision. “The timing of the decision and the discount do not add up,” he said.

Esguerra also said that while the prosecution would have wanted to make it appear that the large discount given by Megaworld Properties and Holdings Inc. to Corona for his purchase of the Bellagio unit was a “favor,” the facts do not add up.

He said court records showed Megaworld Properties and Holdings Inc. v. Cobarde was written by then-Associate Justice Corona and was promulgated on March 31, 2004. The decision granted the petition of Megaworld and absolved it from the responsibility of paying broker’s commission in a compromise agreement. In the case, the Supreme Court ordered Megaworld to be paid P5,853,793.01 by the opposing parties.

“Connecting the decision to the alleged 40 percent discount amounting to P10 million requires some manipulative thinking,” Esguerra defense said. The circumstances of the sale reveal that the Bellagio condominium unit was bought in October 2008, with the last payment made in October 2009; the decision on the Megaworld case was written in March 2004.

“Esguerra said the decision was also concurred in by two other associate justices: Associate Justice Angelina Sandoval-Gutierrez, now retired, and Associate Justice Conchita Carpio-Morales, the current Ombudsman appointed by President Aquino.

Esguerra also said that in Megaworld Globus Asia Inc. v. Tanseco, a decision written by then Justice Carpio-Morales and promulgated on October 9, 2009, Megaworld lost the case for failure to complete and deliver a condominium unit to its buyer. Megaworld was ordered to pay P21,725,438.02. “The unfavorable ruling to Megaworld was concurred in by then-Justice Corona. Clearly, no favors there,” Esguerra said.

He also cited another case where Corona took part. The case was Megaworld Globus Asia Inc, vs Clerica Holdings Inc. in 2007 where Megaworld was ordered to pay P14,522,955.00, “Again, where was the favor there?” Esguerra asked.

Megaworld, in a statement to the media which listed the cases cited, said, “A cursory examination of the records of the Court’s decisions, which are open to the public, including legal ‘analysts’ and ‘commentators,’ would readily show that Megaworld has never requested nor obtained any favor from anyone in the Court, including the Chief Justice.”

It also said: “For the record, we wish to state that in all our business dealings with Chief Justice Corona, the company has neither solicited nor obtained any favor either from the Chief Justice or from the Court. The records of decided cases involving our company are open to scrutiny since the same form part of public documents. In all these cases, we have followed all judicial processes, availed of all legal remedies and abided by all the final decisions of the Court…. As a company, we shall continue to uphold the highest standard of ethical business practices.”

Funny things is, the supposed witness of prosecution ay nagbigay pa ng puntos sa defense..naloko na..

you should use your puto first before that jaundiced mouth

....

Megaworld is a professional company


i like your wording... i'm sure all megaworld employees are very professional... especially when dealing with "defects"... i just hope that... they know how to fix it... so they don't have to depreciate the value of their properties.

i like your wording... i'm sure all megaworld employees are very professional... especially when dealing with "defects"... i just hope that... they know how to fix it... so they don't have to depreciate the value of their properties.

actually the value of their properties will definitely appreciate as they further convince the Impeachment Court on their professional dealings with their clients, whether CJ or any ordinary buyer, and further prove the deceitfulness, mudslinging, mongering of the Hepatitis Camp.

actually the value of their properties will definitely appreciate as they further convince the Impeachment Court on their professional dealings with their clients

i see. so the value of their properties will continue to increase...and that is by convincing the prospective buyers which is the impeachment court members?

and another day comes by for another costly Impeachment Trial with the Cojuangco Oligarch sucking your own public taxpayers money in the name of Hacienda Luisita, as the Hepatitis Camp continue to make a fool of themselves and make a mockery to the country's Judiciary, while the economy spirals dangerously down and poverty worsens, with 100 witnesses still to go.


In this impeachment trial, witness the hypocritical Hepatitis Camp mudslingers eat their own Yellow mud.

SLAMAT oligarchLORRRD

the Cojuangco OLIGARCH are now sucking your public taxpayers money, all in the name of Hacienda Luisita!

while clueless, hypocritical mudslinging yellowtards it manipulates are like Hepa virus that further sicken this country :ohno:


OLIGARCHY is the true guilty offender against the interest of this country!

based on your previous posts... i think you're totally hooked on the idea of Hacienda Luisita thing...

IIRC, si Corona ata ay naging ponente sa isang kaso which Megaworld won when he was still an AJ. (Atty. ED, correct me if I'm wrong).

yep. megaworld vs. cobarde. corona save megaworlds ass for 25 million in 2004/2005.

and just a couple of years later, he bought a condo for a discounted price.

pretty convenient. :lol::lol::lol:

laughing at people believing that it will cost 10m to repair water damage to a condo. :lol::lol::lol:

i have an igloo to sell you guys.

Yes, because it is part of it @Maxxclip. Hacienda Luisita is part of the all-out attack on Corona. Liberal Party move. Hyatt 37. Carpio ambition to be SC Chief Justice. The Firm. UP Law Faculty signatories on the so-called plagiarism attack on del Castillo to create a vacancy in the SC.

(this is in response to MAxxclip.)

@Eastern Dragon: It's not just the water damage. Read the postings above.

based on your previous posts... i think you're totally hooked on the idea of Hacienda Luisita thing...


you mean, you ain't got clue it does?

:ohno:

Atty, ang sapatos nga sabi mo naibibigay sa bargain nang 70% isang pares lang yon. So ganoon din ang sa real estate. Sa zoning laws diyan sa atin madaling laruin, gaya lang nang Eastwood na halos sky is the limit ang FAR ( Floor Area Ratio ) kaya mapapasin mo halos higanteng firewall-bakod na kung titingnan mo yong buong site. Kung tutuusin ay bawal yon lalo na sa massing pa lang bagsak na tapos ang setback at open space halos wala na. Kaya sulit na sulit yong investment nila sa property. Kahit anong space function pwede pa nilang ilagay ie, offices, residential, commercial at kahit anong klase nang mixed-used. Tubong Lugaw and if I am not mistaken that area is under Free Trade Zone agreement with the government kaya sa may mga tax incentives pa.

not necessarily bro, fungible items or consumer items like tv/phones/shoes lose their value immediately upon use. buy a cellphone or shoes now, next month when you try to sell it, it is already depreciated.

real estate on the other hand will appreciate or retain their value if property management, location etc are above standard or well maintained, secure.

eastwood is really a dense project and i would agree that they made a killing selling that one but i do not think that property values there will hold longterm as wear and tear will eat into property values easily due to density issues.

you must mean that it is under PEZA, yes, the PEZa registered buildings have tax incentives, some for residential projects also but typically, income tax holidays are granted only for 4-5 years.

income tax holidays are not typically given for residential projects unless you register it with the BOI. tourism related projects are now given tax incentives but i doubt if eastwood qualifies as one.

Atty, ang sapatos nga sabi mo naibibigay sa bargain nang 70% isang pares lang yon. So ganoon din ang sa real estate. Sa zoning laws diyan sa atin madaling laruin, gaya lang nang Eastwood na halos sky is the limit ang FAR ( Floor Area Ratio ) kaya mapapasin mo halos higanteng firewall-bakod na kung titingnan mo yong buong site. Kung tutuusin ay bawal yon lalo na sa massing pa lang bagsak na tapos ang setback at open space halos wala na. Kaya sulit na sulit yong investment nila sa property. Kahit anong space function pwede pa nilang ilagay ie, offices, residential, commercial at kahit anong klase nang mixed-used. Tubong Lugaw and if I am not mistaken that area is under Free Trade Zone agreement with the government kaya sa may mga tax incentives pa.

not necessarily bro, fungible items or consumer items like tv/phones/shoes lose their value immediately upon use. buy a cellphone or shoes now, next month when you try to sell it, it is already depreciated.

real estate on the other hand will appreciate or retain their value if property management, location etc are above standard or well maintained, secure.

eastwood is really a dense project and i would agree that they made a killing selling that one but i do not think that property values there will hold longterm as wear and tear will eat into property values easily due to density issues.

you must mean that it is under PEZA, yes, the PEZa registered buildings have tax incentives, some for residential projects also but typically, income tax holidays are granted only for 4-5 years.

income tax holidays are not typically given for residential projects unless you register it with the BOI. tourism related projects are now given tax incentives but i doubt if eastwood qualifies as one.

Yes, because it is part of it @Maxxclip. Hacienda Luisita is part of the all-out attack on Corona. Liberal Party move. Hyatt 37. Carpio ambition to be SC Chief Justice. The Firm. UP Law Faculty signatories on the so-called plagiarism attack on del Castillo to create a vacancy in the SC.

(this is in response to MAxxclip.)

@Eastern Dragon: It's not just the water damage. Read the postings above.

what about the action of Pnoy against CJ corona before the high court ruled over the distribution of HL?

kung ayaw ni PNoy mapag-initan ni CJ corona, dapat nung umpisa pa lang nagpakita na sya ng magandang pakikisama... pero dun pa lang sa panunumpa nya bilang pangulo e against na sya sa namumuno ng SC.

you mean, you ain't got clue it does?

:ohno:

yes, @skyion, im a clueless person... that's why I'm observing the flow of interest este information here... ;)

Yes, because it is part of it @Maxxclip. Hacienda Luisita is part of the all-out attack on Corona. Liberal Party move. Hyatt 37. Carpio ambition to be SC Chief Justice. The Firm. UP Law Faculty signatories on the so-called plagiarism attack on del Castillo to create a vacancy in the SC.

(this is in response to MAxxclip.)

@Eastern Dragon: It's not just the water damage. Read the postings above.

lili, i have read it and in fact watched the replay of the hearing. anyone in the real estate industry would be laughing his ass off with what he was saying because his statements do not add up. of course megaworld will deny it because under the graft and corrup practices act, the bribe giver will also be liable as the bribe taker.

two statements that really made me chuckle.

1. the unit suffered water damage because of a typhoon, but since condo's are enclosed, only water seepage is the only possible cause. and senator osmena correctly pointed out that water problem is the least of the problems because it only takes a coat of paint. and water seepage does not cause scattered problems but localized problems where the water will flow. but the question is, how much water damage will there be when the unit is semi-bare.

semi-bare? if its semi-bare, one coat of paint lang yan, the floors are not typicall finished, walls also. baka ceiling lang yung tapos nyan.

is that a discount of P10m? seriously.

2. they were willing to give it at a price of 14.5? did they offer the same price to the 5 other penthouse owners? which should have first crack at it? do you understand the feeling of incredulity of present megaworld unit owners who were not given that discount also?

an informal survey of our class in law school are happy to see this thief justice, er, i mean cheap justice go. :lol::lol::lol:

do you see the courts around the country rallying in support unlike the time of davide? that should give you an idea how "beloved" corona is.

lili, i have read it and in fact watched the replay of the hearing. anyone in the real estate industry would be laughing his ass off with what he was saying because his statements do not add up. of course megaworld will deny it because under the graft and corrup practices act, the bribe giver will also be liable as the bribe taker.

two statements that really made me chuckle.

1. the unit suffered water damage because of a typhoon, but since condo's are enclosed, only water seepage is the only possible cause. and senator osmena correctly pointed out that water problem is the least of the problems because it only takes a coat of paint. and water seepage does not cause scattered problems but localized problems where the water will flow. but the question is, how much water damage will there be when the unit is semi-bare.

semi-bare? if its semi-bare, one coat of paint lang yan, the floors are not typicall finished, walls also. baka ceiling lang yung tapos nyan.

is that a discount of P10m? seriously.

2. they were willing to give it at a price of 14.5? did they offer the same price to the 5 other penthouse owners? which should have first crack at it? do you understand the feeling of incredulity of present megaworld unit owners who were not given that discount also?

an informal survey of our class in law school are happy to see this thief justice, er, i mean cheap justice go. :lol::lol::lol:

do you see the courts around the country rallying in support unlike the time of davide? that should give you an idea how "beloved" corona is.

Eto ha, hindi ko sinabi pero ibato ko na rin sayo. Ang tanong ni Sen. Panfilo Lacson: "What is your competence?"

they should not have called Hernandez as their witness. IMO.

if it is still not evident to everybody... i think right now, it's fair to say that the prosecution are acting like deers in front of headlights... they are so lost, it seems they are too incompetent for the job.

anyways, their case against Corona is really WEAK, so maybe I can't blame them for sucking so much.

as of the moment, it seems like this "impeachment trial" is nothing but a witch-hunt, a fishing expedition, ordered by President Aquino because he was hurt when he realized he can't appoint his own CJ

they should not have called Hernandez as their witness. IMO.

if it is still not evident to everybody... i think right now, it's fair to say that the prosecution are acting like deers in front of headlights... they are so lost, it seems they are too incompetent for the job.

anyways, their case against Corona is really WEAK, so maybe I can't blame them for sucking so much.

as of the moment, it seems like this "impeachment trial" is nothing but a witch-hunt, a fishing expedition, ordered by President Aquino because he was hurt when he realized he can't appoint his own CJ

Tumbok mo 'igan!

lili, i have read it and in fact watched the replay of the hearing. anyone in the real estate industry would be laughing his ass off with what he was saying because his statements do not add up. of course megaworld will deny it because under the graft and corrup practices act, the bribe giver will also be liable as the bribe taker.

two statements that really made me chuckle.

1. the unit suffered water damage because of a typhoon, but since condo's are enclosed, only water seepage is the only possible cause. and senator osmena correctly pointed out that water problem is the least of the problems because it only takes a coat of paint. and water seepage does not cause scattered problems but localized problems where the water will flow. but the question is, how much water damage will there be when the unit is semi-bare.

semi-bare? if its semi-bare, one coat of paint lang yan, the floors are not typicall finished, walls also. baka ceiling lang yung tapos nyan.

is that a discount of P10m? seriously.

2. they were willing to give it at a price of 14.5? did they offer the same price to the 5 other penthouse owners? which should have first crack at it? do you understand the feeling of incredulity of present megaworld unit owners who were not given that discount also?

an informal survey of our class in law school are happy to see this thief justice, er, i mean cheap justice go. :lol::lol::lol:

do you see the courts around the country rallying in support unlike the time of davide? that should give you an idea how "beloved" corona is.

it was explained that the unit was sold semi-bare. meaning, Megaworld never reached the point where they could sell the unit at 24M. when it was hit by a typhoon, it suffered considerable damage. so they sold it uncompleted and with damages, making the price reduction very reasonable considering some developers reduce prices even for undamaged completed units.

^^

you have a point there... but as what @skyion said, megaworld is very professional... i think we better wait for the answers from the right person on the "defect" thing...and that person is the engineer who was assigned to inspect the unit at that time.

what about the action of Pnoy against CJ corona before the high court ruled over the distribution of HL?

kung ayaw ni PNoy mapag-initan ni CJ corona, dapat nung umpisa pa lang nagpakita na sya ng magandang pakikisama... pero dun pa lang sa panunumpa nya bilang pangulo e against na sya sa namumuno ng SC.

yes, @skyion, im a clueless person... that's why I'm observing the flow of interest este information here... ;)

to be honest, i doubt if aquino cares too much for that HLI thing. there already has been a decision about it since 2004/2005.

then another en banc decision last year concurred by 3 of aquino appointees. i doubt aquino will also try to impeach his own appointees because of HLI.

matagal na nadesisyonan ang HLI before the en banc decision last year.

what about the action of Pnoy against CJ corona before the high court ruled over the distribution of HL?

kung ayaw ni PNoy mapag-initan ni CJ corona, dapat nung umpisa pa lang nagpakita na sya ng magandang pakikisama... pero dun pa lang sa panunumpa nya bilang pangulo e against na sya sa namumuno ng SC.

Because PNoy is short-sighted. Like a spoiled brat that he is, he was so used to getting his way. He thought that like the decades before, they could hold on to Hacienda Luisita and skirt the issue.

But when the adverse decision of the SC was issued, BSA3 got the Cojuangcos goat because it had to happen during his time as President. That's when the blitzkrieg on Corona happened and the all-out move to impeach him. Initially, he said that he had divested himself of all interest in HL, and was ready to abide by the court decision. Pakitang-tao. Why is it that they are on a second motion for reconsideration now? And of all people, it had to be his appointee Sereno to issue a so-called "concurring opinion" which in fact is a dissenting opinion to put the fair market value for compensation to the Cojuangcos to 2006 (instead of the 1989 value based on the majority opinion) which would in effect give them a whopping P46 billion! And at whose expense? The Filipino taxpayers' money.

it was explained that the unit was sold semi-bare. meaning, Megaworld never reached the point where they could sell the unit at 24M. when it was hit by a typhoon, it suffered considerable damage. so they sold it uncompleted and with damages, making the price reduction very reasonable considering some developers reduce prices even for undamaged completed units.

precisely my point bro. a semi-bare unit will not suffer considerable damage. and this Php24.2 unit comes with 3 free parking slots, each parking slot typically costs 700-1m.

sabihin natin 800k each. so 2.4 million. so that means, corona bought a 303 sqm property for P12m + 2.4m worth of 3 parking slots.

and don't tell me the parking slots also suffered water damage. :lol::lol::lol:

^ don't forget the 20- 25 % discount that MW gives to buyers who closed on the property early PLUS the incomplete fixtures PLUS the water damage/ force majeure PLUS the global economic debacle of 2008. These were all considerations in the price reduction!

Because PNoy is short-sighted. Like a spoiled brat that he is, he was so used to getting his way. He thought that like the decades before, they could hold on to Hacienda Luisita and skirt the issue.

But when the adverse decision of the SC was issued, BSA3 got the Cojuangcos goat because it had to happen during his time as President. That's when the blitzkrieg on Corona happened and the all-out move to impeach him. Initially, he said that he had divested himself of all interest in HL, and was ready to abide by the court decision. Pakitang-tao. Why is it that they are on a second motion for reconsideration now? And of all people, it had to be his appointee Sereno to issue a so-called "concurring opinion" which in fact is a dissenting opinion to put the fair market value for compensation to the Cojuangcos to 2006 (instead of the 1989 value based on the majority opinion) which would in effect give them a whopping P46 billion! And at whose expense? The Filipino taxpayers' money.

well, i think its good for CJ corona if the decision favored to the cojuangcos... coz this will be the triggering device for the Aquino supporters to rethink... don't you think?

the pressure is on the hands of the president... he

well, i think its good for CJ corona if the decision favored to the cojuangcos... coz this will be the triggering device for the Aquino supporters to rethink... don't you think?

the pressure is on the hands of the president... he

No. I think otherwise. Why would it be good for CJ Corona to favor the Cojuangcos?

^^ i don't know... maybe it is the LAST evidence of the anti-PNoy to justify their fight against the current administration... IMO

kapag nabaliktad ang isang unanimous decision ng supreme court at pumabor ito sa mga cojuangco, parang kumuha si PNoy ng ebidensya para suportahan ang paratang ng mga galit sa kanya.

Because PNoy is short-sighted. Like a spoiled brat that he is, he was so used to getting his way. He thought that like the decades before, they could hold on to Hacienda Luisita and skirt the issue.

But when the adverse decision of the SC was issued, BSA3 got the Cojuangcos goat because it had to happen during his time as President. That's when the blitzkrieg on Corona happened and the all-out move to impeach him. Initially, he said that he had divested himself of all interest in HL, and was ready to abide by the court decision. Pakitang-tao. Why is it that they are on a second motion for reconsideration now? And of all people, it had to be his appointee Sereno to issue a so-called "concurring opinion" which in fact is a dissenting opinion to put the fair market value for compensation to the Cojuangcos to 2006 (instead of the 1989 value based on the majority opinion) which would in effect give them a whopping P46 billion! And at whose expense? The Filipino taxpayers' money.

Have the Cojuangcos appealed for second motion? I didn't know that. I wonder how involved Aquino is with the Conjuangcos in this process?? I would love to have a wiretap into any of their exchanges, even though that would be very inappropriate.

^^ i don't know... maybe it is the LAST evidence of the anti-PNoy to justify their fight against the current administration... IMO

kapag nabaliktad ang isang unanimous decision ng supreme court at pumabor ito sa mga cojuangco, parang kumuha si PNoy ebidensya para suportahan ang paratang sa kanya ng mga galit sa kanya.

Kapag na-impeach si Corona, at ganyan ang nangyari, maari. Pero masyadong costly para sa bansa. Ma-mo-monopolize niya ang powers ng Executive, Congress (Legislative) at Supreme Court (Judiciary) sa kanya at kanyang mga kawani lamang. Wala na talagang checks and balance. Marami pa rin ang hindi nakakaunawa ng mga pangyayari sa likod ng galit ni Aquino kay Corona. At malakas si Aquino sa media katulad ng ABS-CBN at iba pa at ito lang ang laging nakikita ng karamihan sa mamayanan.

^ don't forget the 20- 25 % discount that MW gives to buyers who closed on the property early PLUS the incomplete fixtures PLUS the water damage/ force majeure PLUS the global economic debacle of 2008. These were all considerations in the price reduction!

lili, i know you are anti-aquino but let us not be naive in these things.

look at the pattern, of his actions. why would he sell "supposedly" a property to his own child for 18m?

why would he declare a property with an market value of 14-24m as Php6.8m?

there is a reason why binay is called mr. condo lili. even in 2011, when corona was already CJ, megaworld vs. cobarde was still being cited as a jurisprudence.

if corona had the delicadeza (which he obviously didn't), he wouldn't even be buying that property in the first place kasi dumaan sa kanya ang kaso nila.

don't tell me, hindi alam ng both parties, corona or megaworld that a buyer was a ponente in a case involving them.

^^ i don't know... maybe it is the LAST evidence of the anti-PNoy to justify their fight against the current administration... IMO

kapag nabaliktad ang isang unanimous decision ng supreme court at pumabor ito sa mga cojuangco, parang kumuha si PNoy ng ebidensya para suportahan ang paratang ng mga galit sa kanya.

i seriously doubt that HLI decision will ever be overturned. i explained it many post ago. kasi mathematically improbable yan eh.

you can overturn an 8-7 or 9-6 decision, but a 15-0 decision labo. kaya nga si aquino has been almost invisible sa usapan na iyan.

I only became anti-Aquino after seeing his pattern of behavior and incompetent decision-making eversince he became a President starting with the Quirino hostage massacre. That was the litmus test and it degenerated all the way since then. Believe you me, I was part of the Cory movement. Though I did not vote for Noynoy for President either because of his absence of track record as a Senator for years. I mean zero legislation? What did he do? Wasted public moneys?

Kapag na-impeach si Corona, at ganyan ang nangyari, maari. Pero masyadong costly para sa bansa. Ma-mo-monopolize niya ang powers ng Executive, Congress (Legislative) at Supreme Court (Judiciary) sa kanya at kanyang mga kawani lamang. Wala na talagang checks and balance. Marami pa rin ang hindi nakakaunawa ng mga pangyayari sa likod ng galit ni Aquino kay Corona. At malakas si Aquino sa media katulad ng ABS-CBN at iba pa at ito lang ang laging nakikita ng karamihan sa mamayanan.

alam mo lili, bordering on the imaginary na yan eh.

corona term will outlast aquino, and so would majority of the justices, if not all.

how then can aquino overturn a 15-0 decision? he has a little over 4 years left.

its almost a mathematical impossibility unless majority of the justices will die and be replaced by a new set of justices.

lili, i know you are anti-aquino but let us not be naive in these things.

look at the pattern, of his actions. why would he sell "supposedly" a property to his own child for 18m?

why would he declare a property with an market value of 14-24m as Php6.8m?

there is a reason why binay is called mr. condo lili. even in 2011, when corona was already CJ, megaworld vs. cobarde was still being cited as a jurisprudence.

if corona had the delicadeza (which he obviously didn't), he wouldn't even be buying that property in the first place kasi dumaan sa kanya ang kaso nila.

don't tell me, hindi alam ng both parties, corona or megaworld that a buyer was a ponente in a case involving them.

And what about the other 2 Megaworld cases where Corona voted against them? Let's see the testimony, if ever it is presented. It was the daughter based in the U.S. who bought the property. The daughter is a physical therapist here married to a neuro-surgeon. These two occupations here were not hardly hit by unemployment/underemployment. They continue to be well-paying jobs.

I only became anti-Aquino after seeing his pattern of behavior and incompetent decision-making eversince he became a President starting with the Quirino hostage massacre. That was the litmus test and it degenerated all the way since then. Believe you me, I was part of the Cory movement. Though I did not vote for Noynoy for President either because of his absence of track record as a Senator for years. I mean zero legislation? What did he do? Wasted public moneys?

zero legislation? tulad ni gibo? unless you count his renaming a street and hospital for his relative as legislation.

i believe in the party system so i do not care too much for personality based politices. walang patutunguhan yan. you need a strong party policy, both in terms in of economic and polital stance.

LP lang naman ang may history of economic and political thought throughout its party history. aquino will just be a phase of the party history. having a stable admin for 10-15 years is key to having sustained growth, even though there will be trials sa simula.

just like indonesia.

it was either aquino or villar for me. alangan naman si erap iboto natin.

alam mo lili, bordering on the imaginary na yan eh.

corona term will outlast aquino, and so would majority of the justices, if not all.

how then can aquino overturn a 15-0 decision? he has a little over 4 years left.

its almost a mathematical impossibility unless majority of the justices will die and be replaced by a new set of justices.

Hindi yan bordering on the imaginary. Nakita mo na nga kung paano minabilis ng Congress yung Articles of Impeachment kahit na haphazard dahil sa pork barrel. Kahit si Rep. Tiangco hindi makapirma tapos tinanggal siya sa House Committee of Ways and Means bilang paghihiganti. Tapos, sinabi na nila, hindi pa tapos ang impeachment, naghahanap na sila ng kapalit ni Corona, the likes of Sereno raw ayun kay Lacierda. At sabi pa ni Tupas, apat pa raw na Justices ang iisa-isahin nila tanggalin. May Plan B pa. Aba, aba, aba! Lahat yan nasa dyaryo at TV. Hindi yan likhang-isip.

zero legislation? tulad ni gibo? unless you count his renaming a street and hospital for his relative as legislation.

i believe in the party system so i do not care too much for personality based politices. walang patutunguhan yan. you need a strong party policy, both in terms in of economic and polital stance.

LP lang naman ang may history of economic and political thought throughout its party history. aquino will just be a phase of the party history. having a stable admin for 10-15 years is key to having sustained growth, even though there will be trials sa simula.

just like indonesia.

it was either aquino or villar for me. alangan naman si erap iboto natin.

Hindi ko rin binoto si Gibo. You don't care about personality based politics? Have you read your past postings?!! Ang LP, nawalan na ng tunay na ideology and principles. Panay politicking na lang.

^^ Lahat ng asa kampo ng Pandak noon, lipatan lahat sa LP at ngayon balik gobyerno din.

Weather-weather lang talaga.

Hindi ko rin binoto si Gibo. You don't care about personality based politics? Have you read your past postings?!! Ang LP, nawalan na ng tunay na ideology and principles. Panay politicking na lang.

^^ate Lili in case you dont know si Eastern Butiki sumulpot lang yan bigla para maging Number 1 defender ni BS Aquino dito sa SSC.check mo past posts nya na lahat sa economy thread lang.para sa kanya walang bahid na kamalian si BSAquino.smokescreen lang nya ang defending LP kuno...yan kasi kontrata nya from noynoy :D

siya yung nag pa uso nyan dito sa SSc na pag anti-aquino ka pro-gloria ka :D

^^ate Lili in case you dont know si Eastern Butiki sumulpot lang yan bigla para maging Number 1 defender ni BS Aquino dito sa SSC.check mo past posts nya na lahat sa economy thread lang.para sa kanya walang bahid na kamalian si BSAquino.smokescreen lang nya ang defending LP kuno...yan kasi kontrata nya from noynoy :D

siya yung nag pa uso nyan dito sa SSc na pag anti-aquino ka pro-gloria ka :D

I have to give props to Eastern however, this is the most cordial i have ever seen him in a debate. Must be something about ate Lili....

^^ Lahat ng asa kampo ng Pandak noon, lipatan lahat sa LP at ngayon balik gobyerno din.

Weather-weather lang talaga.

Party alliance is more about convenience in the Philippines.

Hindi ko rin binoto si Gibo. You don't care about personality based politics? Have you read your past postings?!! Ang LP, nawalan na ng tunay na ideology and principles. Panay politicking na lang.

During the last elections, there were really no substantial debate on issues that could have enlightened the public as to where candidates stood on issues. There was no conversation among the public about ideology or principles. If the public did know more about how Aquino would approach the economy during the elections, then maybe some people's minds would have changed, although i doubt this because I don't think Pinoys are all that concerned about where candidates stand on issues during elections. Its all about the personality.

I have to give props to Eastern however, this is the most cordial i have ever seen him in a debate. Must be something about ate Lili....

nice of you to notice Eastern butiki wag his tail and make chirpy sounds.




:rofl:

Hindi yan bordering on the imaginary. Nakita mo na nga kung paano minabilis ng Congress yung Articles of Impeachment kahit na haphazard dahil sa pork barrel. Kahit si Rep. Tiangco hindi makapirma tapos tinanggal siya sa House Committee of Ways and Means bilang paghihiganti. Tapos, sinabi na nila, hindi pa tapos ang impeachment, naghahanap na sila ng kapalit ni Corona, the likes of Sereno raw ayun kay Lacierda. At sabi pa ni Tupas, apat pa raw na Justices ang iisa-isahin nila tanggalin. May Plan B pa. Aba, aba, aba! Lahat yan nasa dyaryo at TV. Hindi yan likhang-isip.

incorrect analogy lili. in congress, it is always a numbers game and hence, the influence of the president is enormous kasi coterminus ang term ng congressmen sa president every 6 years and during the mid term congressional election, malakas ang hatak ng president if he is popular.

your analogy is wrong there kasi justices are different, they retire only when they are 70 years old or incapacitated. kaya sinasabi ko, corona and all the justices will outlast the term of noynoy.

hence, you analogy of aquino influence over congress is not applicable to that of the judiciary who are not elected. i already explained it before and if you want to give it a try, i would be more than willing discuss with you on it.

but first, you have to elucidate your claim that aquino will reverse the HLI ruling. tell me, how will he reverse a unanimous 15-0 ruling?

it is simply mathematically impossible kaya mga most lawyers are not even considering such scenario.

explain how a 15-0 ruling can be reversed.

^^ Atty ED, ang hinahon nyo ho pag si Mam Lily ang kausap nyo :D

Pero gusto ko yung flow ng conversations nyo.

not necessarily bro, fungible items or consumer items like tv/phones/shoes lose their value immediately upon use. buy a cellphone or shoes now, next month when you try to sell it, it is already depreciated.

real estate on the other hand will appreciate or retain their value if property management, location etc are above standard or well maintained, secure

Atty, bakit naman napunta tayo sa depreciation at appreciation ang issue ay kung saan hangang bumaba ang selling price sa item. Lahat naman nang costing sa selling price ay halos ibinabatay sa Markup say sa sapatos malaking porsiyento ang sa production cost at sa real-estate ay sa construction cost. Kaya nadedetermine ang breakeven point kung saan dapat mabase ang talagang presyo. Yong sabi mong 70% sa sapatos posible pa rin na breakeven sila lalo kung mga gawang China na sobrang baba nang labor. Sa real-estate naman ganoon din ang calculation kung saang percentage level ang break even point, na kayang babaan dahil sa flexibility sa FAR, say breakeven na sila sa 50 units kayang doblehin. Marami kaming ginawang study na hindi makalusot dahil sa restrictions sa height at FAR, halos hindi makuha yong limitation sa ROI, kaya halos walang matuloy na proyekto. Diyan sa atin maluwag kaya ultimong pulitiko ay nasa real-estate at mag pera gaya ni Lucio Tan na hindi naman niya expertise pinapasok.

Well sa kaso nang impeachment yan din ang problema nang prosecution kung saan-saan nila dinadala ang issue kaya pati mga senator judges tuliro. Hindi ako abogado pero kung ako ay litong-lito paano ako makikisimpatiya.

lili, i have read it and in fact watched the replay of the hearing. anyone in the real estate industry would be laughing his ass off with what he was saying because his statements do not add up. of course megaworld will deny it because under the graft and corrup practices act, the bribe giver will also be liable as the bribe taker.

two statements that really made me chuckle.

1. the unit suffered water damage because of a typhoon, but since condo's are enclosed, only water seepage is the only possible cause. and senator osmena correctly pointed out that water problem is the least of the problems because it only takes a coat of paint. and water seepage does not cause scattered problems but localized problems where the water will flow. but the question is, how much water damage will there be when the unit is semi-bare.

semi-bare? if its semi-bare, one coat of paint lang yan, the floors are not typicall finished, walls also. baka ceiling lang yung tapos nyan.

is that a discount of P10m? seriously.

2. they were willing to give it at a price of 14.5? did they offer the same price to the 5 other penthouse owners? which should have first crack at it? do you understand the feeling of incredulity of present megaworld unit owners who were not given that discount also?

an informal survey of our class in law school are happy to see this thief justice, er, i mean cheap justice go. :lol::lol::lol:

do you see the courts around the country rallying in support unlike the time of davide? that should give you an idea how "beloved" corona is.

Sir, nasa Penthouse yong unit, usually ang design nang ganyan ay panoramic kaya prone to typhoon damage. Masyadong mahal ang mga materyales diyan say salamin dahil makakapal ang kailangan at tempered dahil sa wind velocity. Kapag nasira yan palit halos lahat. Kapag pinasok nang tubig yan at hindi basta seepage yan dahil sa ordinary days nga magalakas ang hangin lagi sa taas bagyo pa, halos apektado ang wiring, ceiling, painting na mas mahal gastusan dahil kasama pa ang pag-kayod at dismantling kung grabe may mg i-dedemolish pa yan.

Sa kaso lang nang bahain ang bahay namin malaki pa ang ginasatos namin sa renovation kesa bagong structure.

precisely my point bro. a semi-bare unit will not suffer considerable damage. and this Php24.2 unit comes with 3 free parking slots, each parking slot typically costs 700-1m.

sabihin natin 800k each. so 2.4 million. so that means, corona bought a 303 sqm property for P12m + 2.4m worth of 3 parking slots.

and don't tell me the parking slots also suffered water damage. :lol::lol::lol:

a semi-bare unit will not suffer that much damage, but a semi-bare unit will not cost as much precisely because it is inhabitable. a unit, just for being complete and habitable, will cost more of course. add the fact taht furnishings, decors, drives the price of the unit higher even further

if I may put it in terms of food... a big chunk of meat, won't cost that much compared to a well-seasoned and well executed dish. the condo unit as what was described by Megaworld is just that, a big chunk of meat void of flavorings and seasoning. a condo unit that was bland, flavorless was damaged by a typhoon, to boot.

now, I'm not going to argue about the accuracy of the testimony of the Megaworld exec... which is precisely why the prosecution should not have called him in the first place as their witness!

by doing so, they put themselves in a very peculiar position of not being able to cross-examine Mr Hernandez... ang nangyari tuloy eh, niluto nila ang kanilang mga sarili, sa sarili nilang mantika! tsk tsk tsk

^^ Atty ED, ang hinahon nyo ho pag si Mam Lily ang kausap nyo :D

Pero gusto ko yung flow ng conversations nyo.

:lol::lol::lol: a master treats a an adversary differently from the latter's dogs.

di ba si fpj matagal ang laban at maganda ang dialogue pag si max alvarado kalaban.

peron, yung mga miron, tinatapon tapon at binabaril lang. hinahati pa nga ni lito lapid dati ang bala eh. :lol::lol::lol:

tsaka tinuruan ako ng parents ko na maging respectful sa mga nakakatanda.

Sir, nasa Penthouse yong unit, usually ang design nang ganyan ay panoramic kaya prone to typhoon damage. Masyadong mahal ang mga materyales diyan say salamin dahil makakapal ang kailangan at tempered dahil sa wind velocity. Kapag nasira yan palit halos lahat. Kapag pinasok nang tubig yan at hindi basta seepage yan dahil sa ordinary days nga magalakas ang hangin lagi sa taas bagyo pa, halos apektado ang wiring, ceiling, painting na mas mahal gastusan dahil kasama pa ang pag-kayod at dismantling kung grabe may mg i-dedemolish pa yan.

Sa kaso lang nang bahain ang bahay namin malaki pa ang ginasatos namin sa renovation kesa bagong structure.

i know very well about water seepage kasi problema lahat ng developers yan.

but yun nga eh, it is a semi bare unit. what damage can it incur kahit bagyo?

under legal ethics, judges are prohibited from acquiring properties which have been subject of a case pending in their sala. period. no if no buts.

si corona, wala delicadeza. just even a couple of years removed from deciding on a case, bumili ng property from one of the litigants who have so many cases filed against them.

why do you think vp binay is called mr. condo? pareho lang naman ng hibla yan at si corona eh. :lol::lol::lol:

even in 2011, the megaworld vs. cobarde case was being cited by the SC, when corona was already CJ.

and we have been skirting around my question for the longest time.

why did he declare a 14.5m property only as Php 6.8m in his saln?

why did he declare a 14.5m property only as Php 6.8m in his saln?

dapat sa issue na it na lang nagfocus ang prosecution.. their insistence to paint Corona as an evil-judge, soliciting favors from developers not only backfired on them, but made them look so amateurish, even pedestrian, in the impeachment trial.

http://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri2011/aug2011/gr_179978_2011.html

ayan, decision last 2011 when corona was cj and still citing jurisprudence of megaworld vs. cobarde.

how can you not cast impropriety on him or cast aspersions on his character eh buyer siya from megaworld on the years in between.

dapat sa issue na it na lang nagfocus ang prosecution.. their insistence to paint Corona as an evil-judge, soliciting favors from developers not only backfired on them, but made them look so amateurish, even pedestrian, in the impeachment trial.

you cannot expect people who have been years or decades removed from trial practice to be as adept compared sa mga historical artifacts like cuevas. :lol::lol::lol:

selling your property to your own child for 18m? seriously?:lol:

Hindi ko rin binoto si Gibo. You don't care about personality based politics? Have you read your past postings?!! Ang LP, nawalan na ng tunay na ideology and principles. Panay politicking na lang.

politicking is part of it kasi you need to have the numbers to advance your agenda.

nawalan ng tunay na ideology? not necessarily, compromise yes as it is required.

but economic thought and policy? we have not matured as a nation and only when we have mature party based politics can we say that we will have matured as a democracy.

but what party has survived since its inception? NP died for some time. LP has survived through the years despite being a fringe party for so long.

the LP stalwarts have been with the party for the longest time. aquino has been there since 1998 or earlier and has never been a political butterfly, unlike gordon, gibo, villar, miriam, joker, enrile.

ayoko sa balimbing. gusto ko tao matigas ang ulo, kaya i chose to support LP.

you cannot expect people who have been years or decades removed from trial practice to be as adept compared sa mga historical artifacts like cuevas. :lol::lol::lol:

selling your property to your own child for 18m? seriously?:lol:

non-lawyers are actually making more sense than them... the prosecution is reaching, making all these look more like a witch-hunt.

sayang lang pera ng mamamayan. i think they should move on to another article of impeachment.

non-lawyers are actually making more sense than them... the prosecution is reaching, making all these look more like a witch-hunt.

sayang lang pera ng mamamayan. i think they should move on to another article of impeachment.

regardless of their performance, at least the truth has come out. kaya nga si cuevas is really trying to deny the admission of all these things as evidence.

a 24m property declared as 6.8m sa saln.

when government employees make do with loans from pag ibig and gsis, we have Cheap justice, i mean a thief justice living in a 303 sqm penthouse in belaggio.

ayus. pati yung nakausap ko sa forum na taga sc, tuwang tuwa na lumabas ang baho sa mga iyan.

weird no, kami mga abodago or connected sa legal profession, we are so happy to see that corona go.

pero yung mga non lawyers, seem to be see corona as some santo. :lol:

regardless of their performance, at least the truth has come out. kaya nga si cuevas is really trying to deny the admission of all these things as evidence.

a 24m property declared as 6.8m sa saln.

when government employees make do with loans from pag ibig and gsis, we have Cheap justice, i mean a thief justice living in a 303 sqm penthouse in belaggio.

ayus. pati yung nakausap ko sa forum na taga sc, tuwang tuwa na lumabas ang baho sa mga iyan.

weird no, kami mga abodago or connected sa legal profession, we are so happy to see that corona go.

pero yung mga non lawyers, seem to be see corona as some santo. :lol:

I think that's a more reasonable issue to focus into... but I would wait for the defense to present their explanation.

from my understanding about assessment, and having dealt with the assessors office a few times, eh sila ang nagbibigay or nag-aassess ng value ng isang property... one time, i could not believe how low they assessed the value of one of my properties... :nuts:

I think that's a more reasonable issue to focus into... but I would wait for the defense to present their explanation.

from my understanding about assessment, and having dealt with the assessors office a few times, eh sila ang nagbibigay or nag-aassess ng value ng isang property... one time, i could not believe how low they assessed the value of one of my properties... :nuts:

correct on taxes sa assessor kasi, RPT ang binabayaran diyan.

but the CAR issued by the BIR will have its own valuation. the taxes will be based on the BIR zonal value or the market value whichever is higher. check arnold clavio article now regarding discrepancy sa binayaran na tax ni corona.

kasi dapat the taxes should be paid on the market value because it is the higher amount, bakit pinalusot sa BIR nung 2009 na naging based on zonal na according to the article.

your guess is as good as mine. :lol::lol::lol:

Mukhang malulusutan ng defense ang mga bintang ng prosecution a...

Re: the columns... E may valid reason naman bakit hindi kaagad nilagay sa SALN yung property. Kahit ako, pag tinatayo palang ang property, wala pang kasiguraduhan kung matuturn over talaga sa akin, aba e hindi ko muna i-rerecognize yan under the principle of conservatism. Dapat yata full F/S with explanatory notes ang isubmit ng bawat public official at hindi lang SALN parang sa business enteties...

Kaya mahirap talaga mag conclude at magbintang agad,..

Naaasar na ako kay PNOY kasi pinagdidiinan nyang wala daw syang kamay sa pagkaka impeach ng CJ e halatang siya yung nagiinit sa tao. Kaya one big liar siya. Halatang may kasamang pandidiin yung move nya against CJ. In bad faith siya. Walang pinagkaiba kay Gloria. Tao nga naman. Pati economy poor performance.

Labas nalang lahat ng SALN ng magkaalaman :D

Labas nalang lahat ng SALN ng magkaalaman :D

:banana::banana::banana:

aminin na lahat ng posters dito, if not for drilon, hindi nyo malalaman na may belaggio si thief justice corona. :lol::lol:

^^ Sakin lang, hindi lang naman si Corona ang nagawa nan. Pero wala e, asa kabilang bakod kasi, so kailangan tirahin.

^^ Sakin lang, hindi lang naman si Corona ang nagawa nan. Pero wala e, asa kabilang bakod kasi, so kailangan tirahin.

yep. karamihan sa mga iyan, ganyan talaga although in varying degrees. iba level ka pag CJ. siguro yung iba justice dyan, regular size condo lang, mga 100 sqm. :lol:

but let us be practical, this world would be a better placed with one less thief justice.

it would do our country good to show to the whole world that we are a mature democracy enough to handle an impeachment without a circus.

sa senators and congressmen, recall and election and sagot dyan. at least we have every three years to kick them out.

just imagine if we are stuck with a corrupt sc justice who was appointed at 50 years old. we will be stuck with him for 20 fuicking years.

pasalamat kayo sa impeachment. :banana:

si chief justice may condo sa the fort, yung clerk nga ng customs may porscge carrera

kayat di imposible ang anuman pag nakikita ng tao at nahahawakan

Preparing some popcorn again for today's comedy show in Senate. LOL
Ano na naman kaya gagawin ng mga prostitute team. haha

si chief justice may condo sa the fort, yung clerk nga ng customs may porscge carrera

kayat di imposible ang anuman pag nakikita ng tao at nahahawakan

huh, hindi ko maintindihan. are you saying a clerk sa customs can afford a porsche?

huh, hindi ko maintindihan. are you saying a clerk sa customs can afford a porsche?

Actually ikaw ang hindi naiintindihan dito...:lol:

Mukhang malulusutan ng defense ang mga bintang ng prosecution a...

Re: the columns... E may valid reason naman bakit hindi kaagad nilagay sa SALN yung property. Kahit ako, pag tinatayo palang ang property, wala pang kasiguraduhan kung matuturn over talaga sa akin, aba e hindi ko muna i-rerecognize yan under the principle of conservatism. Dapat yata full F/S with explanatory notes ang isubmit ng bawat public official at hindi lang SALN parang sa business enteties...

Kaya mahirap talaga mag conclude at magbintang agad,..

Naaasar na ako kay PNOY kasi pinagdidiinan nyang wala daw syang kamay sa pagkaka impeach ng CJ e halatang siya yung nagiinit sa tao. Kaya one big liar siya. Halatang may kasamang pandidiin yung move nya against CJ. In bad faith siya. Walang pinagkaiba kay Gloria. Tao nga naman. Pati economy poor performance.

after watching the trial, to me this is a witch-hunt orchestrated by the PNoy Camp or the Liberal Party...

this is a demolition job or character assassination similar to the one they launched against Manny Villar when he tied Noynoy in surveys.

:banana::banana::banana:

aminin na lahat ng posters dito, if not for drilon, hindi nyo malalaman na may belaggio si thief justice corona. :lol::lol:

dapat usisiin din ni Drilon yung nagbigay at nabigyan ng iPhone 4S. :D :lol:

:banana::banana::banana:

aminin na lahat ng posters dito, if not for drilon, hindi nyo malalaman na may belaggio si thief justice corona. :lol::lol:

Alam na ng lahat tungkol sa bellagio kasi nilabas ni tupas sa media. At according to the hearing today inamin ni tupas na hindi pala 45 properties 24 lang daw, nagsinungaling lang sila para sumikat sa media.

dapat usisiin din ni Drilon yung nagbigay at nabigyan ng iPhone 4S. :D :lol:

oo nga di ba bribe din un ng globe kay pnoy????! Same situation.

huh, hindi ko maintindihan. are you saying a clerk sa customs can afford a porsche?

Napalabas yan kagabi sa news, a clerk of court owns a porsche carerra S and went after a hapless innova owner for accidentally side swipping him. PInagbabaril ng clerk ng customs yung innova buti may mga gwardya sa resorts world ang pumigil. Yang ganyang mga tao ang dapat inuusig muna.

Siguro kapag nagkakaroon nightmare si Tupas ay yung tawa ni Cuevas ang naririnig nya.

Siguro kapag nagkakaroon nightmare si Tupas ay yung tawa ni Cuevas ang naririnig nya.

at yung ngiti ni noy:lol::lol::lol:

at yung ngiti ni noy:lol::lol::lol:

Alin kaya dun yung ngiti na mapanagimpan ni Tupax? Yung ngiting aso o yung ngiting bwaya?

Alam na ng lahat tungkol sa bellagio kasi nilabas ni tupas sa media. At according to the hearing today inamin ni tupas na hindi pala 45 properties 24 lang daw, nagsinungaling lang sila para sumikat sa media.

:lol::lol::lol:

do you really believe no one tipped off the prosecution from the ranks of the judiciary?:lol:

Napalabas yan kagabi sa news, a clerk of court owns a porsche carerra S and went after a hapless innova owner for accidentally side swipping him. PInagbabaril ng clerk ng customs yung innova buti may mga gwardya sa resorts world ang pumigil. Yang ganyang mga tao ang dapat inuusig muna.

huh?

clerk of court, then clerk sa customs. can you clarify?:lol:

^^ Sakin lang, hindi lang naman si Corona ang nagawa nan. Pero wala e, asa kabilang bakod kasi, so kailangan tirahin.

Pwede pakisilip na rin ang mga tonggressman at mga senador..with their millions of pork barrel and budget di malayong mas matindi pa sa condo ni CJ corona ito..pare parehos lang naman sila dyan nagkataon nga lang na balakid si CJ corona kay.PENOY.

^^yeah...i wonder why pnoy was able to get a Porsche at a cost way, way below its market price and nobody complained. di ba dapat, imbestigahan din yon bakit binigtan sya ng ganong kalaking discount?:ohno: tit for tat.

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kumusta na ang pangingilkil nga Cojuangco OLIGARCH sa pagsasayang ng public taxpayers money ninyo upang gatasan ang impeachment trial para mapanatili sa kanila ang Hacienda Luista mula sa mga magsasakang tunay na may-ari?

ano naman ang inuto ng OLIGARCH ABiaS at OINKquirer tungkol sa kapuplupan ng mga Dilaw na "tong"ressmen na sinasayang ang oras ng Senado na dapat sana'y ibinaling ang oras para solusyunan ang lumalalang ekonomiya at tumitinding kahirapan sa naghihikahos na bansa?

Prosecutors: We didn't say Corona has 45 properties (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/02/02/12/corona-has-24-not-45-properties-prosecutors)

Senate to prosecution: Show us proof of impeachable offense

MANILA, Philippines - The House prosecution panel on Thursday denied saying that Chief Justice Renato Corona has 45 real estate properties.

During questioning, Senator-judge Francis Escudero said he has counted so far 18 properties, excluding the 6 parking lots the prosecution said were not properly disclosed in the statement of assets, liabilities, and net worth.

“You announced to the media, there are 45 properties,” he asked lead House prosecutor Iloilo Rep. Niel Tupas Jr.

"We just want to put on record that the 45 did not come from the prosecution. It was a letter..." Tupas replied before being cut off due to loud groans from spectators inside the Senate.

Tupas said the 45 properties were listed by the Land Registration Authority, which was attached in their complaint. He said the prosecution will be presenting titles to 24 properties instead of 45 since the other real estate titles were canceled or sold.

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^^yeah...i wonder why pnoy was able to get a Porsche at a cost way, way below its market price and nobody complained. di ba dapat, imbestigahan din yon bakit binigtan sya ng ganong kalaking discount?:ohno: tit for tat.

Yun nga eh at cost daw saka yung sya daw ang unang binigyan ng apple iphone 4s ng globe. Diba same situation lang yan ni corona for getting a 40% discount allegedly from megaworld? Same banana lang. Kaya nga kalokohan lang itong impeachment pang patawa lang. Ang senate ata gustong makipag kumpetensya sa abs-cbn at gma7 sa paglalabas ng afternoon soap opera. For sure after nitong impeachment meron na tayong mabibiling DVD copies nyan sa record bars in 10 languages pa! :lol:

Why doesnt senate investigate this tupas thing? Tupas is a former lawyer employed in the law office who is now handling the hacienda luisita case. Tupas apparently is also close to pnoy since pnoy appointed tupas' wife as a member of the pnoc(phil national oil company) board when the fling of this impeachment raps are being processed in congress. Tupas's father was also appointed in the govt despite the pending graft cases filed against him in the supreme court.

huh?

clerk of court, then clerk sa customs. can you clarify?:lol:

God, are you living under a rock? Nasa youtube pa ang news report. Do i have to spoon feed everything? And stop being so arrogant like those prosecutor fools, kaya eto sila ngayon mukhang mga tanga. Mayayabang kasi.

Tandaan mo ang failed challenge mo nung tungkol sa 3rd qtr gdp ng pilipinas. Sa sobrang yabang mo at nag dare ka ba na magpa self ban, napahiya ka tuloy. Teka nga nagpaself ban ka nga ba?

During the last elections, there were really no substantial debate on issues that could have enlightened the public as to where candidates stood on issues. There was no conversation among the public about ideology or principles. If the public did know more about how Aquino would approach the economy during the elections, then maybe some people's minds would have changed, although i doubt this because I don't think Pinoys are all that concerned about where candidates stand on issues during elections. Its all about the personality.

Well, it's funny how you see the same rhetorical antics every election and of course they never have the initiative to question and learn. They made their campaigns more like noon time shows rather getting down to the business where it matters because they knew that the voting public doesn't care anyway for issues they can hardly understand at all.

The chances of winning is very simple and formulaic - just keep those freebies coming in so you earn their utang na loob during the election.

God, are you living under a rock? Nasa youtube pa ang news report. Do i have to spoon feed everything? And stop being so arrogant like those prosecutor fools, kaya eto sila ngayon mukhang mga tanga. Mayayabang kasi.

Tandaan mo ang failed challenge mo nung tungkol sa 3rd qtr gdp ng pilipinas. Sa sobrang yabang mo at nag dare ka ba na magpa self ban, napahiya ka tuloy. Teka nga nagpaself ban ka nga ba?

ugok ka pala eh, nakipagpustahan nga ako, wala naman tumanggap sa inyo. ok din kayo ah, ayaw nyo pumusta pero gusto nyo mangolekta. :lol::lol::lol:

i do not spend all my time here nor watching news. it makes it a lot easier if you can compose your thoughts and right clearer.

clerk of court=clerk ng customs?:lol:

^^ nangagamoy ban ang dragon.. LOL

^^ nangagamoy ban ang dragon.. LOL

Talaga lang! Dragon katol, umuusok yan eh!

Eto ang pinayayabang ng mga DA YELLOW HORDE especial mention to Dragon.. :lol:

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Eto ang pinayayabang ng mga DA YELLOW HORDE especial mention to Dragon.. :lol:

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WAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :hilarious:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious...Napahalakhak ako doon ah! Comedy show nga! Comedy show +reality TV huh! at ang main actors eh mga prosecution :lol::lol::lol::lol:...kitang kitang ang pagkasupalpal nila with relative ease from the defense team...pahiyang pahiya ang prosecution kulang na lang ipagsingitan ang ulo nila sa pagitan ng hita nila :laugh::laugh::laugh:


COMEDY REALITY SHOW: More Fun (and realistic :lol:) In Th Philippines!!

Prosecutors: We didn't say Corona has 45 properties (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/02/02/12/corona-has-24-not-45-properties-prosecutors)

This has got to be a joke.

Please lang. Wag nyo isiping t@nga mga Pilipino. Please.

^^ Di nman nila sinabi eh.. PINANGALANDAKAN nga lang sa buong bansa.. haha

(did i spell it right?)

kumusta na ang pangingilkil nga Cojuangco OLIGARCH sa pagsasayang ng public taxpayers money ninyo upang gatasan ang impeachment trial para mapanatili sa kanila ang Hacienda Luista mula sa mga magsasakang tunay na may-ari?

ano naman ang inuto ng OLIGARCH ABiaS at OINKquirer tungkol sa kapuplupan ng mga Dilaw na "tong"ressmen na sinasayang ang oras ng Senado na dapat sana'y ibinaling ang oras para solusyunan ang lumalalang ekonomiya at tumitinding kahirapan sa naghihikahos na bansa?


hahahaha....

Eto, nakalimutan mo na naman... naguumpisa na naman mangantso etong TV Patrol. Nagsusurvey na naman ulit sila sa TV. Habang punong puno ng saksakan ng yabang ang mga host nila na si Corona Sanchez at Teddy Bear Falcon ..:bash: What a yellow tard move again by this yellow tard ABiasCBN Network...:lol:

Exept Manong Noli: I like him so much ever since because he loves PNR...

Reduction or discount, Corona’s Bellagio purchase ‘unethical’
By Cynthia D. Balana
Philippine Daily Inquirer
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/138375/reduction-or-discount-corona%e2%80%99s-bellagio-purchase-%e2%80%98unethical%e2%80%99

Whether it was a reduction or a discount, the fact that Chief Justice Renato Corona accepted the P10 million off-the-price offer of Megaworld Corp. for the Bellagio penthouse he was buying in 2009 violated the Canons of Judicial Ethics, according to a spokesperson of the House of Representatives’ prosecution panel.

Deputy Speaker Erin Tañada said that regardless of the amount involved, the Chief Justice got his 303-square-meter Bellagio unit at a substantially reduced rate, which seriously put into question the propriety of a judge receiving a discount due to his position.

“It is clear under Canon 5.04 of the Canons of Judicial Ethics, judges are prohibited from receiving gifts in any form,” Tañada said.

Noli Hernandez, Megaworld Corp. senior vice president for marketing and sales, testified at the Senate impeachment trial on Tuesday that Corona had received a P5-million discount from the original P24-million cost of the unit to P19.6 million because of the effects of the global financial crisis and the “water damage” caused by a typhoon on the “semi-bare” unit.

From P19.6 million, Hernandez said Megaworld offered an additional P5-million discount, P3 million of which was given “because the client was paying almost in cash,” Hernandez said.

‘Special’ discount only 1M

He said the only “special” discount given to the Chief Justice amounted to P1 million.

But Tañada insisted that even ordinary judges from the Metropolitan Trial Court and the Regional Trial Court were disciplined for receiving P50,000.

“And what makes the discount received by Chief Justice Corona different?” Tañada asked.

‘Badges of fraud’

“Our witnesses from Megaworld have testified that they really gave a special discount (to Corona). But like we said, that now goes into the moral fitness of the Chief Justice. It is now up to the impeachment court how it is going to appreciate (the evidence),” Quimbo said.

He maintained that the prosecution was also able to establish the “badges of fraud” surrounding Corona’s statement of assets, liabilities and net worth (SALN) from 2002 to 2010 as opposed to his lawful income.

Based on the evidence presented so far, Corona and his wife Cristina bought the Bellagio property for P14.5 million in 2009; a unit at Bonifacio Ridge, also in Taguig City, for P9.1 million in 2004; and a unit at The Columns in Makati City for P3.6 million in 2003.

However, the prosecution noted that Corona undervalued the three properties by P16.9 million in his SALN and only declared these in his 2010 filing.

In his 2010 SALN, Corona declared that the Bellagio property cost P6.8 million; Bonifacio Ridge, P2.3 million; and The Columns, P1.2 million.

‘Almost in cash’

Aurora Representative Juan Edgardo Angara said the next question would be where Corona got all the money to pay for the Bellagio property “almost in cash.”

'Did Corona commit a high crime?'
by Jojo Malig, ABS-CBNnews.com
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/02/02/12/did-corona-commit-high-crime

Enrile asks if Corona committed an impeachable offense

Cuevas says law allows Corona to correct his SALNs

Prosecution: Corona betrayed public trust with wrong SALNs

The question of what are impeachable offenses surfaced on day 11 of the Corona impeachment trial, as prosecutors continued to present proof on Article 2 or the chief justice's alleged failure to disclose his true wealth in his statements of assets, liabilities and net worth (SALNs).

A debate on whether Corona can be impeached for filing questionable SALNs ensued after Senator-judge Ralph Recto asked one of the registrars of deeds the meaning of the different items in the SALN.

He asked if the fair market value, zonal valuation and deeds of sale should all be disclosed in the SALN. The fair market value is the price by which 2 parties decide on, while zonal value is fixed by the Bureau of Internal Revenue for purposes of taxation. The price in the deed of sale, meanwhile, follows closely the zonal valuation.

All parties agreed that all these should be included in the SALN.

Recto also noted there is room for corrective measures. A person who has omitted unintentionally some details may correct his or her SALN. If found it was unintentional on his part, he is not liable under the laws.

Prosecutor Elpidio Barzaga said omission, or leaving some items blank in the SALN, falls under the crime of perjury.

"According to the Supreme Court, if there has been omission or not a faithful or true declaration of the properties, the filer will be liable for perjury because statements as far as the SALN is concerned is made under oath," he said.

Is perjury a high crime?

Enrile then posed the question: “If it is a crime, is it a high crime?”

"No, your honor. It is not a high crime," Barzaga replied.

Enrile then said: "All right, you read the Constitution. Culpable violation of the Constitution, treason, bribery, graft and corruption, and other high crimes could be the basis for impeachment. So that's the law."

Associate Justice Serafin Cuevas, head of Corona's defense team, said the Chief Justice is not liable for any discrepancies in his SALNs.

"If there may have been discrepancies, inaccuracies, or incompleteness, these can me remedied after a review of the SALN has been made. If it is not intentional, no criminal liability or any administrative liability is incurred by the filing official," he said.

Other senator-judges also stood up and reminded the prosecutors about what is provided in the Constitution.

Joker: Evidence must amount to impeachable offense

"Not every offense, omission is an impeachable offense," said Senator Joker Arroyo. "So the responsibility of the prosecution is to present evidence that would amount to an impeachable offense, and the defense must defuse it."

Arroyo noted that United States President Bill Clinton was impeached, but senators acquitted him because they did not believe that the accusations lodged against him were impeachable offenses.

"We might be wasting our time discussing crimes that are not impeachable," Senator-Judge Francis Escudero said.

Arroyo added, “What we’re overlooking here, we should check if offenses have reached level of impeachable offenses.”

Escudero agreed, saying: “Assuming he’s seen on television jaywalking, is it already an impeachable offense? Pag nakita syang nagbigay ng lagay para mapabilis ang kaso, is it already an impeachable offense.”

He noted that in the United States, there is a “range” for a particular offense.

Prosecution: Corona betrayed public trust

Prosecution panel chief Rep. Niel Tupas explained that their complaint says Corona's failure to truthfully disclose his SALN is a betrayal of public trust

He cited an opinion of Fr. Joaquin Bernas, one of the authors of the 1987 Constitution.

Bernas has explained some issues regarding what the Constitution says about impeachable offenses.

"The offenses for which an officer may be convicted on impeachment are 'culpable violation of the Constitution, treason, bribery, graft and corruption, other high crimes, or betrayal of public trust,'" he said in his blog.

"The word 'other' modifying 'high crimes' indicates that every offense in the list must be a 'high crime.' This meaning is dictated by the principle of legal construction that the word 'other' makes the meaning of all those enumerated of the same level of gravity. In legal gobbledygook this is the eiusdem generis rule," he added.

Enrile has ordered the 2 parties to submit a legal memorandum on the issue.

After the trial, prosecution panel spokesman Rep. Sonny Angara said the framers of the 1987 Constitution added betrayal of public trust as an impeachable offense due to the high crimes committed by the Marcoses.

"Pinakamahalaga po diyan, iyung pagtaksil at pagkalulo sa tiwala ng publiko o betrayal of public trust, kasi nga malawak po iyan kaya nga yan ang intension ng ating may akda ng ating Saligang Batas na talagang panagutin po ang mga makasalanang opisyal," he said.

Tamano explains betrayal of public trust

ANC's resident legal analyst, lawyer Adel Tamano, explained that betrayal of public trust is also a ground for impeachment introduced in the 1987 Constitution.

"What are the grounds for impeachment? Under Article XI, Section 2 of the Constitution, there are 6: 1 - culpable violation of the Constitution; 2 - treason; 3 - bribery; 4 - graft and corruption, 5 - other high crimes, 6 - betrayal of public trust."

"You might ask what is high crimes. The easiest way to understand it is that these are crimes of such gravity. For example, murder, it is so serious that is is so obvious that an impeachable official should be removed from public office. The impeachable act is so grave that it constitutes a high crime," Tamano explained.

"Fr. Joaquin Bernas, when he talks about betrayal of public trust in his book, he says betrayal of public trust is a catch-all provision, and even acts that are not necessarily criminal can be a betrayal of public trust," he said.

"But if you take a look at the Constitutional records, it is very clear that not every act is a betrayal of public trust," he added.

Tamano said any impeachable act has to be of such magnitude that it impacts on the moral fitness of the official, leaving no other recourse but to remove the official by impeachment.

Recto asks: Was there intent to deceive?

In an interview with ANC after day 11 of the trial, Senator-judge Ralph Recto said they will look into the "timeliness" of Corona's declaration of 5 properties.

"Should we fault him for declaring them in 2010 kung nakaligtaan in the previous years? I don't know, but we will look into that later on."

Recto said that while Corona declared 5 properties in his SALNs, some declarations were "late in many instances."

He added that the Senate impeachment court also needs to review the valuations of the declared properties.

"Dapat ilalagay mo iyung value. Iyung assessed, iyung market value, and the third will be the transaction value," he said. "Iyun ang maliwanag sa batas, tatlo eh. Kung 2 out of 3, ano ang ibig sabihin niyan?"

"Kung 1 out of 3, kung transaction cost lang ang inilagay niya, may misdeclaration din ba iyon dahil di niya na-fill up iyung acquisition?" he added. "The current fair market value, that's another issue."

Recto said he will grill Corona's lawyers when they present their own evidence in the impeachment court.

"I will confront them as well with many parts of the law," he said.

"Katulad niyan iyung accounting. Iyan ba may deceit on the part of the Chief Justice?" he asked.

"Halimbawa na hindi pa nata-transfer sa iyo iyung ownership of the property pero iyung accounting practice, dapat, may nilagay ka na roon na advance payments o di kaya may liabilities ka pa for installments," he added.

"Was there a willful intent on the part of the Chief Justice to reduce his net worth and not to disclose his properties? I think that these are valid issues that we should ask the defense also later on," Recto said.

naku, paano na yan beloved corona nyo.

nyahahahahahhaha. may property pala sa the columns. mukhang he is giving binay a run for his "mr. condo title."

bwahahahahaha.

naku, paano na yan beloved corona nyo.

nyahahahahahhaha. may property pala sa the columns. mukhang he is giving binay a run for his "mr. condo title."

bwahahahahaha.

Tupas ikaw ba yan??? :D :lol: hindi kaya ikaw sya at nagtatago ka lang sa pangalang Eastern Dragon. :D :lol:

patunayan nyo muna!

Tupas ikaw ba yan??? :D :lol: hindi kaya ikaw sya at nagtatago ka lang sa pangalang Eastern Dragon. :D :lol:

patunayan nyo muna!

:lol::lol::lol:

so nagsisinungaling pala yung deed taga avp ng ayala land.

yung deed of sale sa ayala land, gawa gawa pala yun. :lol::lol::lol:

mas marami si jejomar binay na condo, 100 plus, si corona katiting lang...

kong kaya ng presidente,vp,senate president,congressmen,and a clerk of the BOC ang Chief Justice pa kaya?

isa ngang assoc justice lang may 30 million unit condo sa may ateneo sa salcedo

kapit bahay ng tita ko kaya

Despite using almost the entire government resources and power, the use of major newspapers, the whole political machinery of LP of 188 congressmen and pro- senators help, of more than 50 private lawyers plus the private money pouring in from patronage politics and the entire executive department to support prosecution. Why is it that CJ with just himself, Midas touch and few defense team is on his way for acquittal?

Despite using almost the entire government resources and power, the use of major newspapers, the whole political machinery of LP of 188 congressmen and pro- senators help, of more than 50 private lawyers plus the private money pouring in from patronage politics and the entire executive department to support prosecution. Why is it that CJ with just himself, Midas touch and few defense team is on his way for acquittal?

Good observation! It's karma, I guess.

Quality > Quantity

It's really ironic to see that a decrepit Cuevas is still razor sharp compared to the 50 best lawyers (kuno) by the prosecution.

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ACQUITTAL COULD TURN AQUINO INTO LAME DUCK
by: JEFFERSON ANTIPORDA REPORTER
Manila Times
Published : Saturday, February 04, 2012 00:00 Article Views : 1,007 Written
http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/opinion/editorials/16458-acquittal-could-turn-aquino-into-lame-duck

A “not guilty” verdict of the Senate impeachment court on Supreme Court Chief Justice Renato Corona could make President Benigno Aquino 3rd a lame duck leader because he had personally exerted efforts to remove the top magistrate from office.

But former Sen. Francisco Tatad said that he believed that it was not too late for President Aquino to prevent this from happening and he should start by distancing himself from the impeachment proceedings at the Senate impeachment court.

“Certain errors were made, certain statements were issued that are not needed . . . but there is still time for him to distance himself,” Tadtad added during an interview aired on ANC on Friday morning.

He said that there was a need for the President to improve his public posture and act more like a statesman rather than giving all his attention to the conviction of Corona.

Tatad added that there were problems that needed Mr. Aquino’s attention and that they should be his priority and that he should leave the impeachment process to itself.

The President even before the House of Representatives impeached the Chief Justice had been attacking Corona, calling him a “disciple” of then-President Gloria Arroyo in his public speeches.

He cited Corona’s vote in declaring as unconstitutional an executive order establishing the so-called Truth Commission and in issuing a temporary restraining order against a travel ban on Mrs. Arroyo.

The President also hailed the congressmen who supported the impeachment of Corona.

Tatad said that Mr. Aquino’s confidence in Congress could be wrong based on the performance of members House prosecution panel who are having a hard time proving their supposed case against Corona.

“I do not believe that he [President] has people around him who tell him these, most of them only listen and agree and they are so afraid to disagree with him,” he explained.

Tatad noted that what Mr. Aquino needs are people who can disagree with him when needed, not those who agree with everything that he says and do.

He said that it was not the impeachment trial that had “shaken” the judiciary but the President’s open intervention in the Corona case.

itong mga politico na mga ito mga hypocrites, pare-pare kayong mga guilty!!!

wow, pansin ko lang..parang nasa senate din ang thread na to..the lead prosecutor here is Eastern Dragon..biliiiib ako sa deeeepppeennsa mo..

Heto po ang mga heroes ni Dragon.. LOL

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ok, lets put this way:D..and watch this, a simple wake-up call for everybody:)

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Indi kaya si BRIAN MILLS nakabangga ni Not-Not???:lol::lol::lol:

i wonder what people would say about miriam right now. dati qinuquote tulad ni lagman. pero si lagman, hindi na qinuquote ngayon. demonyo at communist na raw eh.

nagpaparamdam na ba si miriam sa kanyang intention. is she telegraphing her punches already? :)

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/139585/criminal-intent-not-number-of-properties-is-key-in-corona-trial%E2%80%94sen-santiago


Criminal intent, not number of properties, is key in Corona trial—Sen. Santiago

MANILA, Philippines – While probably terrified of her, prosecutors at the House of Representatives may have found an ally in Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago, who thinks there’s been too much ado over the prosecution’s “flip-flop” on the number of Chief Justice Renato Corona’s properties.

“There is a Latin phrase we often use, ‘falsus in unum falsus in omnibus’ [false in one thing, false in everything ]. If a witness is caught lying in one detail, he has been lying in other details,” Santiago said in a telephone interview.

However, regardless of the number of properties, Santiago said, the more important issue was whether there has been “criminal intention” on the part of the respondent not to declare his assets, which she said would constitute “proof of a high crime.”

mas marami si jejomar binay na condo, 100 plus, si corona katiting lang...kong kaya ng presidente,vp,senate president,congressmen,and a clerk of the BOC ang Chief Justice pa kaya?

isa ngang assoc justice lang may 30 million unit condo sa may ateneo sa salcedo

kapit bahay ng tita ko kaya

this is probably one of the best post ever. :ohno::ohno::ohno:

jinustify pa. :lol::lol::lol:

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HA_OP NA DRILON may kababalaghan di pala :bash: :bash: paano sya nagkaroon ng ganito kalaking property? taba ba 'to ng PORK? tst! tsk! tsk! :ohno: dapat pala si epal d
Drilon ang imbestigahan :bash:

defense being skewered by henares right now.

cuevas. patay ang defense. cuevas trying to have the testimony stricken out.

hahahahahaha. patay ang defense.

henares. the truth.

^^kaya din kaya nya imbestigahan ang ITR ni abnoy why his income jumped by 400%?:nuts:

^^kaya din kaya nya imbestigahan ang ITR ni abnoy why his income jumped by 400%?:nuts:

why should he be investigated? is he being accused of wrongdoing? in fact it was aquino who filed and disclosed that increase.

large increase in wealth is not uncommon especially if there are one time gains, like inheritance. because his mother died in 2009 right? :lol:

hindi nga tinatago nung tao, galit pa kayo. dun kayo sa nagtatago magalit. :lol:

^^bir's mandate is to investigate all that they perceive or suspect that there is something to look into, re: abrupt increases in SALN. that's according to the words of the commissioner herself. indi lang kung whether the party is involved in a court case or not. di obvious ang pagiging yellow fanatic mo.:lol::lol:

^^bir's mandate is to investigate all that they perceive or suspect that there is something to look into, re: abrupt increases in SALN. that's according to the words of the commissioner herself. indi lang kung whether the party is involved in a court case or not. di obvious ang pagiging yellow fanatic mo.:lol::lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: you do not know arse from ass with what you are talking about?

abrupt increase in saln is not questionable if you can back it up, like receipt of inheritance within the past 2 years. :lol::lol::lol:

the reason why the cj was investigated is because after accusations and after premilinary assessment, there was indeed a discrepancy kaya nga a letter of authority was issued by the BIR based on the preliminary findings. :lol::lol::lol:

kay aquino wala discprepancy sa saln, kaya nga hindi siya iniimbestigahan. siya pa nga nagparelease eh.

hanep, after a month, expert na pala mga tao dito sa saln. :lol::lol::lol:

Prosecution: Corona filed SALN
By Jun Pasaylo Home Updated February 06, 2012 02:38 PM 1 comment to this post

MANILA, Philippines – Whether a slip of a tongue or not, the prosecution panel admitted that Chief Justice Renato Corona has filed his statement of assets, liabilities and networth (SALN).

This after prosecution lawyer Arthur Lim admitted that they have the copies of the SALN of Corona.

Lim made the admission as Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR) commissioner Kim Henares told the impeachment court during the resumption of the hearing today that the bureau is conducting a probe on the discrepancies of the income tax returns of Corona.

Henares said that the BIR has sent letter of authority to Corona to inform him that he was under investigation.

The BIR chief, however, noted that they started the probe late January, days after the start of the impeachment trial against the Chief Magistrate.

"I'm investigating after a review of SALN, ITRs of CJ Corona, and his family," he said.

But Presiding Judge-Senator Juan Ponce Enrile retorted: "But it is only now that you are conducting probe."

Henares was allowed by the court to continue her testimony after the prosecution insisted on having another round of direct examination with her.

Even as Enrile told the prosecution that it is already finished with the direct examination, he still allowed the BIR chief to continue her testimony.

http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200&articleid=774954

Slip of the tongue pala hah :lol::lol::lol::lol:...ingat ingat baka ma-sabon na naman kayo ng Sen Estrada and Sen Escudero...not to mention the Dreaded Sen Santiago..:lol::lol::lol:...nagsisimula pa lang naman pala imbistigasyon ng BIR...as if may kalalabasan kaagad ito at may maitutulong agad sa korte :nuts::nuts::nuts:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: you do not know arse from ass with what you are talking about?

abrupt increase in saln is not questionable if you can back it up, like receipt of inheritance within the past 2 years. :lol::lol::lol:

the reason why the cj was investigated is because after accusations and after premilinary assessment, there was indeed a discrepancy kaya nga a letter of authority was issued by the BIR based on the preliminary findings. :lol::lol::lol:

kay aquino wala discprepancy sa saln, kaya nga hindi siya iniimbestigahan. siya pa nga nagparelease eh.

hanep, after a month, expert na pala mga tao dito sa saln. :lol::lol::lol:

^^grabe pag si abnoy, abswelto agad merely because he said so, without even going into an investigation.:lol::lol::bash::bash::bash:

^^grabe pag si abnoy, abswelto agad merely because he said so, without even going into an investigation.:lol::lol::bash::bash::bash:

dude, you are so dense.

what i am saying is, akin to criminal investigations.

1. kay aquino, wala suspicion, walang complaint kaya walang preliminary investigation.

2. kay corona. may suspiciion. may complaint. may preliminary investigation. at may probable cause.

don't compare the two of them saln wise. because aquino has been publishing his saln while the other one, well, sabi nga ni manny pacquiao. you know.

^^maaring wala pang complaint, but "no suspicion" oh, come on.:lol:

^^^^ Lam mo talagang napakayabang ng taong yan...may nalalaman pang "arse from ass" miski sumagot ka ng matino...kaya siguro dumami rin ang anti-pnoy at pnoy critic dahil sa mga taong katulad nyan na kung sumagot eh animo'y lahat tayo bobo at sya lang ang matalino lagi rin namang barado dito...kaya sa halip makakuha ng sympathy at pumanig kay pnoy ang mga tao eh baligtad ang nangyayari, nagagalit ang mga tao, becuase die hard pnoy supporter becomes the mirror of the person they are supporting...typical of pnoy and pnoy's men...ang yayabang, galing magsalita 3.7% GDP lang naman ang kayang gawin sa paglago ng ekonomiya :ohno::ohno::ohno:

^^^^ Lam mo talagang napakayabang ng taong yan...may nalalaman pang "arse from ass" miski sumagot ka ng matino...kaya siguro dumami rin ang anti-pnoy at pnoy critic dahil sa mga taong katulad nyan na kung sumagot eh animo'y lahat tayo bobo at sya lang ang matalino lagi rin namang barado dito...kaya sa halip makakuha ng sympathy at pumanig kay pnoy ang mga tao eh baligtad ang nangyayari, nagagalit ang mga tao, becuase die hard pnoy supporter becomes the mirror of the person they are supporting...typical of pnoy and pnoy's men...ang yayabang, galing magsalita 3.7% GDP lang naman ang kayang gawin sa paglago ng ekonomiya :ohno::ohno::ohno:

wawa ka naman. paiyak iyak ka na diyan.

nag issue na ang senate regarding the bank deposits ni corona.

tingnan natin ang susunod na kabanata.

^^ Fiesta time na yan Atty. ED.

"But it is only now that you are conducting probe." - Sen. Enrile


phishing.. phishing... anong isda kaya ang mahuli? wag naman sana dilis lang...

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: you do not know arse from ass with what you are talking about?

abrupt increase in saln is not questionable if you can back it up, like receipt of inheritance within the past 2 years. :lol::lol::lol:

the reason why the cj was investigated is because after accusations and after premilinary assessment, there was indeed a discrepancy kaya nga a letter of authority was issued by the BIR based on the preliminary findings. :lol::lol::lol:

kay aquino wala discprepancy sa saln, kaya nga hindi siya iniimbestigahan. siya pa nga nagparelease eh.

hanep, after a month, expert na pala mga tao dito sa saln. :lol::lol::lol:

I have a strong feeling you work for pnoy. Hmm.... Carandang, coloma, lacierda, is that you? Or maybe you could be ms valte perhaps?

Kapag walang complaint laban kay aquino hindi nangangahulugan na wala na syang bahong tinatago. Wala ren naman mag lakas loob na mag file ng complaint sa kanya dahil sa maraming dahilan. Una, sikat pa sya ayon di umano sa mga bayarang survey firms. Pangalawa, takot ang taong mag file ng complaint dahil alam nila kung gaano ka vengatibo si pnoy, bastat kaaway lagot ka. Pangatlo, ang mga kongresista ay natatakot magfile ng complaint kasi hawak ni pnoy ang pork barrel nila, pag nagcomplaint ang isa sa kanila pihado tanggal sila sa listahan tulad nung isang congressman na liberal na ayaw pumirma sa impeachment rap.

Pero lahat ng bagay may hangganan, pag napuno na ang mga tao, pag nagising na sila sa katotohanan, pag kumalam na ang kanilang sikmura,kikilos din ang mga yan upang mag file ng complaint dahil ayaw nilang pagbalingan ng galit ng taong bayan. Kung nangyari yan kay gma, erap at marcos pwede reng mangyari yan kay noy. Sabi nga ni erap "weder weder lang yan"

too much ado about nothing.....kahit pa may makita na discrepancies ang bir sa ITRs ni corona....ang gagawin lang dyan is bir will inform corona about his tax deficiencies para bayaran nya.....walang isyu dun.....kung hindi sya magbabayad saka lang siya pwedeng ipakulong ng bir..... para yan sa mga nagbubunying yellowtards...:lol: sori to spoil your parade...but that is how it is...