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Newcastle Guy June 20th, 2008, 04:52 PM I thought this deserved it's own thread.
http://www.bdonline.co.uk/Pictures/web/o/l/h/Battersea_HP_web_2.jpg
http://www.bdonline.co.uk/Pictures/web/c/i/d/Riverfront_view_WEB.jpg
http://www.bdonline.co.uk/Pictures/web/d/d/a/Turbine_Hall_A_WEB.jpg
http://www.bdonline.co.uk/Pictures/web/b/t/g/Power_station_central_roof_gardenWEB.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/20/article-1027956-01AE7B9800000578-220_468x286_popup.jpg
Keep in mind the masterplan won't be submitted until the end of the year, and changes will more than likely be made.
Battersea Power Station set for 300m 'eco dome' (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/construction_and_property/article4178079.ece)
The new owners of Battersea Power Station today unveiled plans to build a 300 metre "eco-dome" next to the London landmark as part of a planned conversion of the entire site that will cost £4 billion and take 12 years to build.
Real Estate Opportunities (REO), the AIM-quoted owner of Battersea Power Station, is proposing that the complex will include new homes, hotel and offices.
REO also plans to use two of the landmark's famous four white chimneys, that have lain dormant for a quarter of a century, to help power the new riverside flats through an energy efficient electricity generator installed in the station's basement.
In the meantime, REO will spend £150 million on keeping what is Britain's largest brick built building from falling down over the next few years while it pushes its proposals through the planning system.
It is unlikely that the scheme, if formally approved, will be completed before 2020.
Rest at link
Some facts:
- Tower is currently planned to be 300m tall
- Construction starting in or around 2012
- Construction completed around 2018-2020
- The roofs of the office blocks will be turned into tropical gardens
- The scheme will be zero-carbon
- The cost will be £4bn ($7.8bn)
- The power station will include flats and a hotel
CrazyMac June 20th, 2008, 04:54 PM Keep in mind the masterplan won't be submitted until the end of the year, and changes will more than likely be made.
I.e, the 300m tower will get cutback to some pointless 120m dumpy little turd or scrapped altogether.
Newcastle Guy June 20th, 2008, 05:01 PM I.e, the 300m tower will get cutback to some pointless 120m dumpy little turd or scrapped altogether.
Yes, the tower is going to come up against stiff opposition. however, the scheme will hopefully not be affected by the economy as it is not planned to start for another 4 years. However, the developers are looking to start on the power station earlier by the sounds of things, making it safe.
helghast June 20th, 2008, 05:20 PM just another pipe dream
helghast June 20th, 2008, 05:20 PM just another pipe dream
Densetsu June 20th, 2008, 05:23 PM Strange but nice design. :nuts:
BTW, is it the factory which was featured on the cover of Pink Floyd's album, Animals?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/20/article-1027956-01AE7B9800000578-220_468x286_popup.jpg
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/7/74/Pink_Floyd-Animals-Frontal.jpg
ZZ-II June 20th, 2008, 05:27 PM very interesting design...looks almost like a mix out of TV Tower and Skyscraper :)
malec June 20th, 2008, 05:34 PM Looks like a big project. Sorry but have to chuckle a little, comparing to the situation the shard has been in for god knows how long. :)
Newcastle Guy June 20th, 2008, 05:37 PM just another pipe dream
Well, we'll see what happens. At this point I'm inclined to agree, but at least we have the Shard and the Pinnacle to tide us over:)
MelbourneMaverick June 20th, 2008, 06:49 PM Well err I hope the best, I doubt it though.
wjfox June 20th, 2008, 07:19 PM More chance of Hell freezing over than this project being built. For those who don't know, London just got a new mayor who is anti-highrise, and his Chief Planning Advisor is even more anti-highrise.
wjfox June 20th, 2008, 10:24 PM Anyway, I've updated my 2012 rendering to include this.
http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/battersea/pano_2012.jpg
TallBox June 20th, 2008, 10:29 PM This looks horrible - wrong design and wrong location. It'd probably end up turning Londoners off tall buildings in the city. One redeeming feature is that it echos Battersea's heritage of power generation (from a coal plant) to a solar plant, but I hope it doesnt get built.
lMl June 20th, 2008, 10:40 PM I love this powerstation. She`s beautiful ;)
DarJoLe June 20th, 2008, 10:44 PM Pig ugly.
TallBox June 20th, 2008, 11:05 PM ^^ Dunno why, but I would've thought you'd liked this proposal? :dunno:
Any reasons for your opinion?
sturman June 20th, 2008, 11:18 PM I would be angry that with this building they will destroy the classical view, but - it's just another fantasy proposal for London :D
http://www.quieromislyrics.com/images/covers/pf-animals.jpg
Liberty City June 20th, 2008, 11:19 PM Hmmm... the first mind is a factory but it is a building. :okay:
DrT June 20th, 2008, 11:25 PM Damn straight this deserves it's own thread. No updates on this in over a year.
Love the proposal, with the scraper mimicking or echoing the built form of the chimneys.
Only thing that may undo this project is a prolonged world economic slowdown.
jayo June 20th, 2008, 11:30 PM Not really,because the skyscraper would start in about 4 years.
DrT June 20th, 2008, 11:32 PM I would be angry that with this building they will destroy the classical view, but - it's just another fantasy proposal for London :D
http://www.quieromislyrics.com/images/covers/pf-animals.jpg
Yes, Pink Floyd Animals album cover with the flying pig.
Are you saying this will be built "when pigs fly".:lol:
ferge June 20th, 2008, 11:32 PM Someone obviously had a spare afternoon in the office to pen this one..
this is ugly, impracticle and economically not feasible, I mean look of it... 300m?! 200 of that must be enclosing thin air? it might as well be a 300m pedestrian concrete bollard for all its worth, ugly ugly ugly.
The giant multicoloured dildo (Greenbird was it??)was more relatable to the cityscape :| n thats sayin somet
sturman June 20th, 2008, 11:36 PM Yes, Pink Floyd Animals album cover with the flying pig.
Are you saying this will be built "when pigs fly".:lol:
No, it will be (I'm sure it won't be ;)) built between the pig and the camera. So, if it's built, this perspective will be totally lost.
DrT June 21st, 2008, 12:19 AM The timeline for development seems inordinately long. Why?
Never seen a project (except for the 20 year buildouts in some of the massive residential subdivision projects) take this long.
Anticipate slow sales, one small phase done at a time, technical issues, slow approval proccess, or what?
Buyckske Ruben June 21st, 2008, 12:19 AM Be realistic... its almost a vision concept.
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/10011_2_Battersea2big.jpg
Phobos June 21st, 2008, 04:26 AM It's out of scale with the rest of the city.
jmancuso June 21st, 2008, 04:33 AM it's ugly
ElVoltageDR June 21st, 2008, 04:40 AM I don't know why, but I kinda like this.
Sagaris June 21st, 2008, 04:51 AM Would completely ruin the view of Battersea Powerstation, an icon for industry and England.
MelbourneMaverick June 21st, 2008, 12:02 PM It's out of scale with the rest of the city. Exactly thats what makes it stand out.
Downfallen June 21st, 2008, 12:12 PM Ive explored every inch of this power station first hand over the last year and a half.
Great building ?? ...no doubt it certainly
Time to redevelop the area, make something new..? ......absolutely
jak3m June 21st, 2008, 12:37 PM I welcome any redevelopment for battersea power station but i think that the tower on this one is just too tall and directs attention away from the actual power station. i think there is going to be a lot of redesigning before this redevelopment gets built.
Ni3lS June 21st, 2008, 01:00 PM Nice modern looking tower. But I don't think it becomes reality..
Newcastle Guy June 26th, 2008, 04:02 PM Some new pics, taken from here:
This is now available with a few more pictures and plans to drool over;
http://www.battersea-powerstation.com/pdf/BPS_exhibition.pdf
and a feedback form
http://www.battersea-powerstation.com/pdf/BPS_QnaireDownload.pdf
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/regabc123/untitled5.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/regabc123/untitled1.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/regabc123/untitled2.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/regabc123/untitled3.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/regabc123/untitled-3.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/regabc123/untitled4.jpg
If they can pull this off it will be absolutely amazing.
Densetsu June 26th, 2008, 06:10 PM Absolutely useless. :ohno:
Poor Animals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_(album))
Newcastle Guy June 26th, 2008, 06:19 PM Absolutely useless. :ohno:
Poor Animals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_(album))
Sorry, but a Pink Floyd album cover is no reason to stop what will be one of the greenest and most innovative projects around.
Densetsu June 26th, 2008, 06:27 PM ^^I didnt say stop the project. They can build it but i just find it useless. ;)
CrazyMac June 26th, 2008, 06:27 PM Absolutely useless. :ohno:
Poor Animals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_(album))
At least it's not as bad as these..:)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/TheOriginalCooper/307692048_e40f91d4c0_o.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/TheOriginalCooper/xcss.jpg
Newcastle Guy June 26th, 2008, 07:14 PM ^^I didnt say stop the project. They can build it but i just find it useless. ;)
It's not 'useless' though, it will have lots of uses, office, resi, hotel;)
And the tower will be the most important part of the project, as it allows it to have 0 carbon emissions.
Alexriga June 26th, 2008, 07:37 PM Power station will include hotel and flats? I don't know what to say..
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TallBox June 26th, 2008, 07:41 PM The tower tooks dog-ugly. I hope it doesnt get built.
I'd even prefer Tour Phare, than this :puke:
Newcastle Guy June 26th, 2008, 08:08 PM Ah well. I'd say it looks very futuristic, and the concept is absolutely brilliant.
no1gizmo June 26th, 2008, 09:48 PM looks ugly, hope they will change the design.
Newcastle Guy June 26th, 2008, 10:14 PM ^^ I don't think you quite get the point of it. They can't change the design, because it is designed specifically to make the project have no carbon emissions
Mplsuptown June 27th, 2008, 05:36 AM It looks wonderful and doesn't look like it's incomplete and lacking of cohesion as some other European towers this is being compared too. Absolutely 100 percent a tower that is at once a part of it's past and pointing to the future without making one want to vomit.
DrT June 27th, 2008, 07:02 AM I love it.
Take the old and propel it to the 21'st century.
cmjohns6 June 27th, 2008, 11:35 AM cool tower, but it doesnt belong in london.
wjfox June 27th, 2008, 02:36 PM http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/20/article-1027956-01AE7B9800000578-220_468x286_popup.jpg
These photos by DarJoLe show where the tower will appear on the skyline. You can see the old chimneys of the power station to the left of Big Ben. Clearly it will have a massive impact on the Houses of Parliament. I would give this project less than a 1% chance of being approved:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2613379719_c648333988_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/2613376873_bcb49bda09_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3264/2614191842_7b4b09be6c_b.jpg
cubix June 27th, 2008, 02:43 PM Not a hope in hell..!
NothingBetterToDo June 27th, 2008, 02:45 PM As someone else pointed out in the UK forum, look at that pic Wjfox posted - you have the London Eye, the Hungerford Foot bridge, Milbank Tower and multiple residential buildings and yet, the Houses of Parliament doesn't suffer from being 'overshadowed' by one iota.
Lets wait and see what the planners have to say before making claims that the project won't go ahead. If it was turned down by either the local authority, or the mayor of London it certainly wouldn't look too good - they would be turning down an Uber Green project, that is offering to restore and protect a world famous Grade II listed building, that will regenerate a totally run down area close to central London, and is also promising a Northern Line extension.
Public opinion seems quite favourable on this one, even the media (bar one or two outlets) seems broadly supportive of it - that is all important for schemes like this.
DarJoLe June 27th, 2008, 02:51 PM It's no longer in use as a powerstation...
wazcaster June 27th, 2008, 03:25 PM I'm not sure about this one. I dont really like it, but it will probably grow on me. I just think the bits around the glass core look a little tacky, a bit like those horrible tower blocks in mediterranean tourist hotspots.
I dont think it would have a massive effect as it looks like about 100m of it is going to be nothing more than glass, so in reality the actual inhabitable building might only reach 200m. If that is the case, the effect on the views of the houses of parliament would be negligable.
Edit: In actual fact, if you look at the houses of parliament from the right angle, the tower would be obscured by either the clock tower or victoria tower.
citygeek June 28th, 2008, 08:10 AM I'm not sure if it looks more like Marina City in Chicago or a bong.
OMH June 28th, 2008, 08:39 AM This looks like a very interesting and very futuristic project...i personally think that the design isn't bad at all, and the idea of creating such a green building that will be zero-carbon (if i understand it right, the building is planned to produce no greenhouse emissions ?) by re-developing a powerstation is also very interesting IMO.
It certainly will have a big impact on the skyline of London, but IMO this impact will be very positive, since its not too close to the historic center of London , and also because there aren't any other high buildings in the area (the Battersea power station is close to the proposed St. Georges Wharf Tower, am i right?) , so if this gets built it will certainly create a new landmark in the skyline of London and will have a very positive impact, IMO, especially with the new planned towers like St. Georges Wharf and Vauxhall cross and thus create a cluster in the west of London.
I'm not sure how high the chances for approval are for this project since I'm not an expert about London, but of what i heard , Boris Johnson isn't a big fan of skyscrapers, but obviously they're still 4 years until construction is supposed to start, so lets hope that it will get approved, because this is a great proposal IMO and a great way to re-develop the Battersea Powerstation.
chjbolton June 28th, 2008, 06:36 PM I am SO skeptical about this project. How many club, hotel, conference center, olympic swimming pool, concert hall and God knows what other projects have been imagined for Battersea?
It's been going on for yeeeeeeeears. And quite frankly, if all those talks lead to a semi visible glass tube... I just don't wanna say.
AND!!! Foster is not even involved! For a major London project! What the hell is going on here!?
delores June 29th, 2008, 09:21 AM thankgod he isn't, foster has his fingers in too many pies at the moment and i'm glad this scheme was devised by someone else for once.
(fabrizio) June 29th, 2008, 11:02 AM One day I read there's a sort of law prohibiting buildings to be made in such a way that Saint Paul's Cathedral is not visible from certain angles, eg Tower Bridge. Is it the same for the House of Parliament?
however, i judge this building interesting, but NOT there. I'd love to see it in the docklands, perhaps.
St. Tim of Sussex July 10th, 2008, 12:31 PM My dear friends this is so clearly wrong.. I took to my cell for hours not knowing how to calm the brothers.. it looks like an industrial tower on a hideous scale.. and to build it there.. oh no.
The quadrant was littered with hooded recluses, not able to eat their porridge.. this news was a shock to them when we discovered the project today.. all agree the old powerstation is an eyesore and should be flattened, it is a foul memory in need of wiping.
Yes to a low, domed eco-friendly bio-spere of epic priportions.. but the originator of the tower should be sent to Itchingfield Priest house !! :bash:
Must go and pray now!
Bless you all,
St. T
radiant_city November 7th, 2008, 08:47 PM My dear friends this is so clearly wrong.. I took to my cell for hours not knowing how to calm the brothers.. it looks like an industrial tower on a hideous scale.. and to build it there.. oh no.
I'll disagree that it looks hideous... I rather like the design. I just don't like the location.
I mean, I understand the need to develop, and I know that architecture didn't stop with Christopher Wren... but surely putting that building butt up against Battersea is at best jarring and at worst a cognitive dissonance of the highest magnitude?
The building as designed would be better suited in The City, although where you'd put it there is open to view, too.
My US$0.02.
poshbakerloo November 8th, 2008, 01:51 AM I have to be honest...I dnt like it! It looks waaaaayyyy too STRANGE! I think the height is perfect for the location...but the style is nnaaassty
wjfox December 18th, 2008, 01:04 PM http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23604080-details/Battersea+power+struggle/article.do
Battersea power struggle
Jonathan Prynn, Consumer Affairs Editor
18.12.08
http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/battersea-power-new-415x275.jpg
PLANS to build a 300-metre glass tower next to Battersea Power Station have been scaled back after opposition from campaigners and heritage groups.
The tower formed the centrepiece of a £4billion scheme to restore and redevelop the derelict Grade II*-listed generator and the surrounding area.
However, the height of the tower and its impact on views of landmarks, such as the Palace of Westminster, was labelled "catastrophic" by opponents and the original plans have been scrapped.
The tower made up part of an "eco-dome" enclosing 2.5million sq ft of office space that would be naturally ventilated by air sucked in from outside, heating up and rising through the "chimney" of the tower. The natural air-conditioning will reduce the energy needs of the offices by up to two thirds.
Developers Treasury Holdings said they would trim 50 metres from the height of the tower from 300 to 250 metres, reduce its diameter from 32 to 25 metres and move it 100metres further away from the Giles Gilbert Scott-designed industrial landmark.
The eco-dome will be roughly halved in size with the amount of office space reduced to 1.25 million sq ft. This will make the power station more visible. Rob Tincknell, managing director of Treasury Holdings, today presented the revised plan to Mayor Boris Johnson and CABE, the Government's advisers on urban design.
He said: "We have taken on board the comments made to us and believe the new masterplan responds to every concern raised in the last six months.
"One of them was the height of the building, people felt it was just a bit too high. It popped up above a couple of buildings in Westminster but now it has no impact on four out of the five views in the London view management framework."
He added: "By reducing the size of the eco-dome we have reduced the need for such a high chimney. CABE wanted the tower closer to the river and we've moved it as close as possible."
The scheme also involves the construction of a privately funded 1.75 mile Tube extension to the power station at a cost of about £400million.
The power station itself would be turned into a retail and hotel complex. Added features under the new plan include a performance arena inside the power station, a huge ball room, a primary school and a medical centre.
But critics remained doubtful whether the changes had gone far enough.
Keith Garner, a member of the Battersea Power Station Community Group, said: "The odd 50 metres is neither here nor there. It will still be poking up above the Palace of Westminster."
But Mr Tincknell said that without the go-ahead the power station may be doomed.
He said it had three to five years before being beyond restoration and no other viable scheme was in sight.
Eric Offereins December 18th, 2008, 01:09 PM here we go again. :ohno:
SkyscraperSuperman March 28th, 2009, 03:15 PM Dammit, and to think London could have had a second supertall. :(
ferge March 28th, 2009, 03:58 PM I thought this had been cancelled anyway, or was that just wishful thinking..
SkyscraperSuperman March 28th, 2009, 04:05 PM Just scaled down...for now. It still could possibly be put on hold or cancelled. :(
Natataek March 28th, 2009, 04:08 PM London continues to become more and more generic with its skyscraper policies. I can't see the aesthetic advantage of this build; at least not the above impression, however the impressions on earlier pages of this thread seem a much better design option.
skyperu34 April 1st, 2009, 06:04 PM The whole project looks interesting but i dont like the tower specifically...
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