is it true that water rates @ Bonifacio is very expensive? This could be something homebuyers are not aware of... tsk tsk tsk

Fort's water woes
THE FAST-FOOD stall operators of the new Market!Market! in The Fort are drowning in their own version of killer storm Winnie over their water bills.

For example, a stall owner who used to pay an average of P500 a month for water usage in her previous strip mall stall turned livid when shown a P38,000 monthly bill for her 20-meter stall in the new Ayala market-mall.

Ayala Land inherited the mutiny-inducing rates from the Metro Pacific-Vivendi joint venture that developed the world-class water and sewerage system in the new global city.

Unfortunately, world-class, especially when dollar-denominated, comes with a First World price tag. The Asian currency crisis not only exposed the water venture to devaluation risk, but the projected Fort market base also shrank, resulting in fewer consumers carrying a heavier debt burden.

The good news, according to the grapevine, is that Ayala is now meeting with the restive stallholders to discuss the reduction of their water rates.

But, then again, even if Ayala slashes the rates by half, P19,000 from P500 a month still represents a financial tsunami for a stall that gets by on P55 meals.

(Latebreaker: According to an Ayala Land spokesperson, there are no negotiations with Market!Market! fast-food merchants on any reduction of their water rates. That means the rates, which the spokesperson claim have already gone down "tremendously," would remain.)

what a disaster it would be pag nalaman ng mga unit buyers yan....pag nagkataon...mas mura pang maligo ka na lang sa distilled water

what a disaster it would be pag nalaman ng mga unit buyers yan....pag nagkataon...mas mura pang maligo ka na lang sa distilled water
yeah. we should inform serendra buyers!

one 5 gallon distilled water cost just 45 pesos....solve na ko nun....yun na lang gagamitin ko tapos i-turn-off ko na lang yung tap...hehe

Gonna make BGC attractive to the middle-class, therefore development will be stunned because of this, if let to grow.

ONE AWESOME PICTURE!

http://www.pbase.com/image/34045587

Really , ganon kamahal ang water rates dun? kawawa naman pala yung small stallowners and worse baka sa sobrang mahal ng tap water ay tipirin nila ang pag-wash dun sa mga utensils and plates na kinakainan ng consumers, mabuti na lang hindi ako taga-diyan.

Magpagawa na lang ako ng drum sa likuran ng resto ko at ako na ang mag i-import ng sarili kong tubig kung ako sila. Really, this is the trade-off of privatized utilities.

I know there's a service granted here by BGC in their state-of-the-art filtration system, but clean water's really a human right for all and shouldn't be commodified.

ONE AWESOME PICTURE!

http://www.pbase.com/image/34045587

I love how the fog and the flood lights make it so futuristic looking. hahaha...! not exactly, but it still does look really cool...!!

I hope they work out a way to make tap water more affordable for residents and tenants of BGC. no one wants to see Market! Market! nor any other part of BGC die out just because of that...

Really , ganon kamahal ang water rates dun? kawawa naman pala yung small stallowners and worse baka sa sobrang mahal ng tap water ay tipirin nila ang pag-wash dun sa mga utensils and plates na kinakainan ng consumers, mabuti na lang hindi ako taga-diyan.
nyay! baka punasan na lan nila at hindi na hugasan. :jk: :goodnight:

well, a rare shot ryan. finely captured, but not the best view imo. but can't take away anything from it, and the photographer

Been away for months now but glad to see all this activity going on right now. To your question EXACC re One Mckinley Place. My parents moved into their unit Nov 26th. My mom claims there are so far only 3 to 4 tenants that have moved in so far as the interior of the other units have not been completed yet. The president of OMP (Joe Concepcion III moved into the penthouse unit too).

the exterior looks pretty much done after being idle for quite a while... is that right?

re: water - I asked my friend to ask Ayala about the water rates.. and they said that it's a bit high compared to the other parts but it is drinkable (like purified water), that's why it's a bit high.

Well , drinkable pala , siguro okay na rin kasi ang mga nakatira diyan ay mga well-off individuals din naman at kaya nila magbayad ng mahal.

Located within Metro Manila adjacent to Manila’s Central Business District of Makati, this 246 hectare project is the first phase of an over plan to privatize a 530-hectare military base. The project concept is to develop a long term strategy to implement a phased development comprised of 138 million square feet of mixed-use commerical, retail, residential, and institutional facilities. The project is envisioned as a self-contained state-of-the-art community incorporating international standard public (above and below grade rail sytems), infrastructure and telecommunications system required for an “intelligent city.”

http://www.rnlinternational.com/Images/Projects/Fort-Bonifacio_1.jpg http://www.rnlinternational.com/Images/Projects/Fort-Bonifacio_3.jpg http://www.rnlinternational.com/Images/Projects/Fort-Bonifacio_2.jpg

This is probably really old, but it would be cool if Fort bonifacio turned out like this!!!

Original BGC thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=187505

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wait, just let me finish my paper due tomorrow... (now i cant concentrate :drool: )

omg, thanks for the renderings, are those renderings of BGC? that is so cool! i really hope that the people behing BGC would follow all the studies and planning did by HOK and hope that more developments would take place very soon!

:eek2::omg: Even if they probably are old, they are still amazing renderings! BGC could still very much end up like that. Simply Awesome, nice find:okay:

hehe... looks like something out of Sim City:D

wouldn't those photos be in relation to that video thomasian i think was it posted? especially those twins with a Petronas-like skybridge in the middle?

whow! very nice. awesome! :okay:

WOAH....!!! holy shoot... those are amazing renderings!! it reminds me of KL City Center (even though I'm not really sure what KLCC is exactly...). hmm... that'll be the day. can't wait!!

check it out... i see a monorail in the third pic :cool:

those tall buildings are nice. anyone who wants to take a stab and guess how tall they are? a wild guess perhaps :D

check it out... i see a monorail in the third pic :cool:

yeah... it's kinda visible in the first shot too. that white thing running down the road. or maybe not... hehe. but why does it look like a bunch of those towers are sharing the same podium? that would be awesome though... really makes BGC seem very city-center-ish... hahaha.

very nice..........

just concept renderings though, right? more like massing studies?

hehe... looks like something out of Sim City:D

wouldn't those photos be in relation to that video thomasian i think was it posted? especially those twins with a Petronas-like skybridge in the middle?

well those are not part of the video that I posted before but I think they have the same concept with a lot of twins with a road between all those twins. And I think those twins in the current pic look like the one that I posted before.

Its a very ambitous concept...Lets hope reality comes pretty close:)

:eek2: Hope it gets done.

Here are some key pictures from the old BGC thread:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/pf1f46db30d5b5436ae64b5a9413b9182/f9444f35.jpg
http://www.metropacific.com/investor/map.gif
http://www.geocities.com/mikerasalan/americancem.txt


Possible future BGC skyscrapers:
Capital Place (PSE, offices and Grand Hyatt)
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/2703331-L.jpg
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/2703332-L.jpg

Sunlife Financial HQ
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/2206279-L.jpg

BGC video (captured by thomasian)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p31f6abaa8475fbf1c3d7588aaeb19e5e/f9146a61.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p638dc610a24d44de26b1715a4f97b9db/f9146a88.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p6345112071110b9ce75b3585f4936b1b/f9146a5a.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pdde45bc3ed78c8e57ae5c343b9d23ff8/f9146a7a.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p2954dcb3486aa09b3e1a0b2f48ca200e/f9146a5f.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pf3aa376a127ce037d8c2d440a333463f/f9146a76.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p2f47c607eb50a75b8387ba352826de1e/f9146a72.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pfdc542b99cb616c1c9583c74128b4a0f/f9146a56.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pc43e7659c43f00002fb73609c6a41a26/f9146a65.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pb7df65a219e982e6748d5f2955e1d25d/f9146a5b.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p5fb7af5342ea09a55e7d5fd41f208383/f9146a83.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pb995145282c5870140961f8874285bcc/f9146a5e.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pd6798df5b0950e9029953457159cc230/f9146a52.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p2e78d7f9efb4ae158452b7eb567f26c1/f9146a6e.jpg

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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p2d59cc915327de99fcf089c8b9c5bcb2/f9146a8b.jpg

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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p874ce66fe0750bc54f5e61b35bc34d52/f9146a58.jpg
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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p58cec6e17ce03c9470ec42e31040bd8f/f914336d.jpg

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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pbf5406d99540a4d93642bdc96b8cc15b/f9143353.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p97351cf12c8de97be6b6418e2994746d/f9143359.jpg

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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p913b105a41d7491162bee5a382169b01/f914336c.jpg

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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p1f538a147a3904705e5455c2c9cd10a1/f914335f.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pb050dc63a4df4b31910f13750b8ee223/f914335c.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p74ffe47a3365054e565aaf99711df208/f9125e55.jpg

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http://www.imagesphilippines.com/images/030104_114341.jpg
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Some BGC guidelines to urban development and construction: (originally posted by Francis)

SECTION 5. ARCHITECTURE AND URBAN DESIGN

The objective in drawing up Design Standards and Guidelines is to
encourage the creation of a visually interesting and stimulating
environment, with varied architectural forms and a level of detail that constantly delights occupants and visitors alike.
5.1 BUILDING CHARACTER
5.1.1 Building character is created by use of a range of exterior
visual patterns expressed through cornices, columns, glazing and
variations in massing, colors, texture, and materials, etc. In
identifying a particular character for a building, it is important that
facades should employ different but related architectural elements so
as to create harmony but avoid repetition and monotony.
5.1.2 The expression of building character should include horizontal
and vertical banding and rhythm; lintel, cornice and molding and the
organization of glazing, etc. Comparable and compatible design
details should be employed on all sides of the building. Vernacular
architecture is encouraged to reflect the culture of the Philippines. In
addition, the design of a building should respond to the local climate
in both its overall form and materials used.
5.2 BUILDING MATERIALS
5.2.1 Buildings and other improvements, including landscaping,
lighting and signage must be consistent with and blend with the
character of the particular local environment in which they are
located.
5.2.2 Environment-friendly materials shall be used for all the
buildings. External reflective glass should be clear with a maximum
outdoor reflectance of 20% and the shading co-efficient of 0.3 or
anything with an equivalent performance in terms of reflectivity and
energy efficiency.
5.2.3 The external finish materials of any building constructed on the
lot shall be capable of easy maintenance and shall be of such color,
type and materials, as shall be permitted in writing by the Declarant.
5.2.4 The actual specific minimum construction(s) cost of buildings
may be determined by the Declarant in supplemental declarations to
these Design Standards and Guidelines that it may issue from time to
time.
5.3 FAÇADE
5.3.1 All building walls, including parking structures, shall be
designed with sufficient architectural details as to create identity
while still in harmony with the buildings/developments in immediate
vicinity.
5.3.2 Buildings should provide for a hierarchy of horizontal and
vertical expression and patterns that should relate to the particular
form and proportion of a building. The purpose of detailing is to
create consistency among the building frontage and other
architectural features, such as the building entrance, corner, and
variation in setback, etc.
5.3.3 The main entrance to a building should be clearly defined by its
size and form as well as in the use of colors, texture, materials and
lighting.
5.3.4 Relentless grids and "eggcrate" fenestration shall be avoided.
5.3.5 Balconies are allowed and encouraged.
5.3.6 To preserve the serenity and “green character” of the
University Park, the following guidelines apply to all buildings:
a. All plumbing and other pipeworks of any building constructed on
the lot shall be embedded or concealed accordingly. For gas pipes,
concealment should provide for free vent.
b. Utilities and equipment on roofs must be visually screened from
top and sides with appropriate treatments that conform with the
building design.
c. Vehicles in parking structures shall not be visible from both the top
and the sides. Open/transparent areas should not exceed 50% of the
parking structure openings.
d. Retail outlets shall not be visible from any public road. Within the
building where such outlet(s) are located, unifying elements with
respect to signage, graphics, awning and lighting etc. should be
adopted.

Thank God you found those photos again, I forgot that I placed them on Imagestation. I was looking for those BGC Video captures in all my geocities account without realizing that they were in my imagestation account. :)

I just went to the original BGC thread and went through its pages:D

wow...! thanks for putting those up, GreyX...!! hahaha...!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p1f538a147a3904705e5455c2c9cd10a1/f914335f.jpg
those twins look hot...!! hahaha...! I love the shape of the future skyline in that video. it just looks so cool...

No problem:) And if you scroll quickly through the video clips, it becomes animated

mejo animated nga. :applause:

Makati, Taguig fight over Fort Bonifacio

By Ma. ELISA P. OSORIO, Reporter
The cities of Taguig and Makati are steeped in legal battle for territorial jurisdiction and ownership over a portion of the former Fort Bonifacio military camp known as Inner Fort.

In a December 17 filing, the Makati government insisted the court should void the special order by former president Fidel V. Ramos that gave Taguig jurisdiction over two barangays at the border of Fort Bonifacio and Forbes Park in Makati City.

"The authority of then President Ramos to issue Special Patent No. 3596 and for the Registrar of Deeds to issue OCT No. SP-001 must emanate from a valid legal declaration by the court of where the subject tracts of land are actually located," Makati argued.

In an interview, Pio Kenneth Dasal, assistant city attorney of Makati City, said Inner Fort comprised two middle-class residential barangays, South Side and North Side. South side is nearer Forbes Park.

During his term of office, President Ramos, through Special Patent No. 3596, declared that the lands in dispute fell within the territorial boundaries of the City of Taguig.

Mr. Ramos likewise granted ownership of the property to Fort Bonifacio Development Corporation (FBDC), the joint venture company of state-run Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) and Metro Pacific Corp.

But the City of Makati, led by Mayor Jejomar Binay, assailed the validity of the special patent issued by Mr. Ramos.

Makati claimed that Mr. Ramos committed grave abuse of discretion when he placed the two barangays within the City of Taguig.

Makati questioned why the executive proclamation preceded a Pasig court decision on the issue.

"[That] cannot be the case," Makati said, "there is a need to squarely address the grave abuse of discretion committed by the executive branch in arrogating unto itself the determination of the boundary dispute between the petitioner City of Makati and the respondent."

Roberto Rafael V. Lucila, legal counsel of the petitioner, told BusinessWorld that the proclamation of Mr. Ramos could be considered unconstitutional.

"In the original technical descriptions of the land, it was so stated that the location was Muniocipality of Makati/Municiplality of Taguig; however, Municipality of Makati was erased," he claimed.

In fact, Mr. Lucila said that before the time of Mr. Ramos, residents of the two barangays were registered with Makati City.

"Ask the residents who they voted for at that time for a seat in the local office," Mr. Lucila said in the vernacular.

The City of Makati also asked the court to order the City of Taguig to turn over and remit to it all amounts received in the form of realty and municipality tax, and license fees collected from Inner Fort.

Mr. Dasal estimated these taxes and fees to have reached millions of pesos.

"FBDC had paid and continues to pay such license fees, taxes, assessment dues relative to the tracts of land to respondent Municipality [now City] of Taguig, not to the Makati, has caused and continues to cause damage to the City of Makati and its constituents," Makati added.

In December eight years ago Northside residents also ran to the Supreme Court to stop BCDA and Metro Pacific as well as Public Estates Authority from evicting them.

see below article from the Inquirer:

Metrobank gets fortified
Posted: 1:55 AM | Dec. 22, 2004

Victor Agustin
Inquirer News Service

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METROPOLITAN Bank and Trust Co. (Metrobank) has become a serious player in the competitive Fort Bonifacio Global City real estate business.

The bank of tycoon George Ty emerged as the owner of over 10 hectares in the Fort Bonifacio property, after submitting the lone bid of over P2.4 billion at Tuesday's sheriff sale at the Pasig Regional Trial Court.



The sale came after Metrobank itself obtained court approval to foreclose on the real estate mortgage that Metro Pacific Corp. had submitted.

In addition to the land, Metrobank acquired 12 condominium units in the Pacific Plaza Towers. One other bidder, said to be from the Gaisano group, acquired one unit with a P23-million bid.

The remaining seven condo units will be returned to Metro Pacific since, according to the grapevine, the proceeds of the sale of the over 10-hectare land and the 13 condo units were enough to extinguish Metro Pacific's obligations to Metrobank.

Metro Pacific said the auction should have wiped off the largest remaining debt in its balance sheet.

It is not immediately clear what Metrobank intends to do with the Fort Bonifacio property.

Incidentally, another Ty company, Federal Homes, is engaged in building residential condominiums for the upper- and middle-class markets, notably in the Greenhills area in San Juan town and in the Roxas Boulevard reclaimed area but so far never in Fort Bonifacio.

Metro Pacific, in the meantime, is expected to parlay its toehold in the Citra Skyway project into a new major business leg: infrastructure/tollways.

does anyone know which part of the Global city the 10 hectares is located at ????

Nice! hopefully Metrobank will build a new skyscraper, possibly their hq in BGC. They did a great job with GT, so lets see what they will build in BGC.

I think Metrobank will build residentials there because Metrobank owns Federal Land which is the developer of Oriental Gardens, Bay Gardens, Valencia Hills etc.

But why did Metrobank buy 10 Pacific Plaza condo units,what for? For their workers???

But why did Metrobank buy 10 Pacific Plaza condo units,what for? For their workers???

hahahaha...!! who knows. maybe they'll resell them. or rent them out...?

also from the Inquirer:

Neighborly jump

THE PRESIDENT of Philippine Townships (Philtown), Raul Martinez, is leaving the Concepcion company to join and help revive Philippine Realty (Philrealty) of the Lanuzas after being offered a partnership status.

Philtown developed the One McKinley condominium building and the still-rising Fairways Tower condo building in the Fort Bonifacio Global City area near the Makati business district, while Philrealty plans to build two condos in what is now the parking lot between the Pacific Plaza Towers and UCC Café.

Incidentally, the Philrealty condos will be right across from the rotunda from One McKinley.

I am really wondering. FBGC by the name itself is supposed to be a global city, but most of the constructions so far are for residential purposes.

has anyone heard of these two new condos? what other projects were done by Philrealty...?

I am really wondering. FBGC by the name itself is supposed to be a global city, but most of the constructions so far are for residential purposes.

Thats only because the residential market has been experiencing a boom lately. But once the office market becomes hot, there will be office skyscraper proposals.

But why did Metrobank buy 10 Pacific Plaza condo units,what for? For their workers???

i guess that article of victor agustin of INQ was written in a way that's confusing. based on other articles i read regarding the Metrobank and Metro Pacific issue, the latter used those properties to secure a loan from Metrobank. Metro Pacific was not able to pay its obligations to Metrobank, plus interests, so Metrobank forclosed those properties. so basically Metrobank didn't buy those properties as the article made it appear like it did.

has anyone heard of these two new condos? what other projects were done by Philrealty...?

I think Philrealty was bankrupted then they're now rehabilitating it. Part of the rehab plan includes finishing the long on-hold Skyline Tower of the Andrea North condominium complex in QC. It's the tall u/c condo along Aurora blvd. beside Nestle Ice Cream.

I think I read somewhere that the money that they'll get from selling units of the Skyline Tower when it's finished will be used to fund their proposed BGC Condominiums in their various BGC lots.

But why did Metrobank buy 10 Pacific Plaza condo units,what for? For their workers???

This was a foreclosure.

The sale was to cover the whole obligation of FBDC to Metrobank. It happened that the included in the package were the Pacifica Plaza units. If they could have gotten all the units I'm sure metrobank would be happier. In situations like this the bank wants everything because they have hard time monetizing such assets.

has anyone heard of these two new condos? what other projects were done by Philrealty...?
These are actually old projects of Philrealty. They had actually dug the foundations before but filled them up in the 97 crash due to poor market conditions. They're probably reviving the project with new designs to fit current market conditions.

Thats only because the residential market has been experiencing a boom lately. But once the office market becomes hot, there will be office skyscraper proposals.
There's a lot of interest in the Fort for commercial projects, but there is an impilcit load of Php10,000 per square meter floor price (pre vat and other fort charges) due to their far (in the big delta basically lots with far 8 are 80,000, far 9 are 90,000 so on) , to get these costs spread out in a project you'll need to build a grade a building with budgets of over 20,000 Per square minimum. At rentals of 400 to 500 per square, this is achievable but not in big areas yet. Perhaps if by years end this starts to climb and a developer sees the market for a 50000 sq.m. building will you see a really tall one ( 40 floors leasable space at around 4 meters slab to slab) in the fort. Remains to be seen if we'll see such a spec project online so soon, specially with ortigas so cheap on land and alabang getting a lot of interest.

very informative... appreciate the analytical information too. am in the process of deciding what to do with my unit at Penhurst Parkplace. To rent out or to sell is the big question for me right now.

http://www.fbglobalcity.com/publicdocs/fbdccurrdev403.pdf

if only the resolutions were a bit bigger..


edit.... i found the zoom :D

thanks for that renell, it dosn't look like there are a lot of aloocated open area, too bad serendra took some open green area, look closely to the circular patteren with green area....

Are there areas in BGC allocated for greeneries ? What I saw there was vacant spaces with a sporadically planted trees and mostly treelets lining up the roads.

^YES!! About 40% of the BGC area will be allocated for open spaces and parks.

thanks for that renell, it dosn't look like there are a lot of aloocated open area, too bad serendra took some open green area, look closely to the circular patteren with green area....
yeah i noticed that too eh. serendra destroyed one of the circles. :(

yes rico, you noticed that too ha.....i like the serendra project but i beleive it would create gridlocks around the project because the whole serendra project were suppose to consists of several lots with avenues, now it's just one big project. oh well,,,

hey guys,did you know about BELLAGIO II in the global city be side the first BELLAGIO of megaworld.nakita ko kc yung advertisement nya sa newspaper.confirmed ba ito

hey guys,did you know about BELLAGIO II in the global city be side the first BELLAGIO of megaworld.nakita ko kc yung advertisement nya sa newspaper i think last dec.confirmed ba ito

hey guys,did you know about BELLAGIO II in the global city be side the first BELLAGIO of megaworld.nakita ko kc yung advertisement nya sa newspaper i think last dec.confirmed ba ito

Megaworld's website actually hasn't said anything yet. But you're not the first person to say it, but you somewhat confirm the rumours. :) Will it be a twin?

yeah, someone mentioned before (can't remember who) that there will be a Bellagio II.

Yeah...i heard about Bellagio II. Have they started on Bellagio I?

cool! yeah anyone have an update on bellagio 1?

I had lunch in the fort on monday and I didn't see any builtup area where bellagio is, though they may be doing foundation work.

hmmmm belagio is going slow, maybe not a lot of buyers, but the views are excellent. maybe the rpice and sq. footage

Finish date is 2008 so it could be still in the foundations asides from its Eastwood projects Megaworld's other projects aren't very much publicised

Its too bad if its not selling well. It has a very nice design; its one of the better new condos. Target completion date is 2008, which is still some time from now so it could start rising soon.

guys the color of the window of bellagio 1 is green right but the window bellagio 2 is color blue kung hindi ako nagkakamali.di ba parang ang pangit tingnan nun.

well... from the sounds of it it will look funky:D but yeah perhaps a rendering we will see here soon....

guys the color of the window of bellagio 1 is green right but the window of bellagio 2 is color blue kung hindi ako nagkakamali.di ba parang ang pangit tingnan nun.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I'll say it again I think it looks funky. Goodness only knows how creative Megaworld will, or could be at night when it's all done:D :colgate:

You can continue the Bellagio conversation in its own thread in the U/C forum.:)

As for BGC...have they installed the fibre optic cables around BGC?

fiber optic is laid out in the e-square area in the big delta

how about BGC as a whole, since it is part of their infrastructural plans to attract business offices.

i may sound stupid for this but i will even more if i dont ask but what is FAR? It doesn't seem to be your normal height regulations as you can buy it from other buildings...

Oh Renell there are no really stupid questions. We're all ignorant to a certain degree about other things which we've not yet encountered.
In any Case here's a definition.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/bustero/far100.gif
A FAR of 1.0
The illustration above shows a Floor Area Ratio (FAR) of 1.0. This simply means that, if the area of the plot is 100 square meters, then 100 square meters of gross floor area has been built on the plot. The illustration above shows a 4-story building covering 1/4 of the site, giving a FAR of 1.0. Four floors of 25 square meters each are built on a site of 100 square meters.

The reference design for carfree cities is based on a FAR of 1.5. Here are some ways to get to a FAR of 1.5:

Build a 2-story building on 75% of the site (2 x 0.75 = 1.5)

Build a 3-story building on 50% of the site (3 x 0.5 = 1.5)

Build a 4-story building on 37.5% of the site (4 x 0.375 = 1.5)
It will be noted that a FAR of 1.5 is quite high, although this density is not unusual in Venice or central Paris, and is considerably exceeded in most of Manhattan. It requires 4-story buildings and narrow streets with modest interior courtyards. (Higher buildings would leave more room for streets and gardens, but buildings higher than 4 stories are not desirable because they are expensive to construct and unpleasant to live in.)

Simply put if the lot is 1000 sq.m. and the FAR is 8 then your buildable Gross Floor Area is 8000. This different from Net Sellable Area which is the condominum proper, the GFA ussually includes the the Net Sellable area plus the common areas like hallways and lobbies. In many cases like the fort they do not include parking in the computation for GFA so this is added to their CFA or Construction Floor Area.

In the fort you can make tawad with the FAR with FBDC. e.g. in the big delta near the golf course the lots are FAR 8 so if you buy 1000 sq.m then you can build a 8000 gfa building, if this is not enought you can ask fbdc to transfer other unsold properties rights to you for a price, this will detract the value from that property but it will add to yours since you can now build taller. This is what I mean.

Mind you Pacific Plaza is on FAR 8 land and yet they managed to build some impressively tall buildings and the trick is...

they have huge lots and very thin buildings:)

Seems to be most of the case in BGC condominiums, huge lots and relatively thing buildings. Or in the case of Serendra and that Megaworld Forbes development, even bigger lots but smaller buildings...

Does FAR remove the possibility of Makati-CBD like buildings in BGC?

No, but it would mean that most of it would be short. The highest in FBDC is 12 so if people build building to building like along Ayala or Manhattan it can't really go too high up as they would be occupying a big piece of the land. There will be high buildings though but it will look like KL where the tall buildings are far apart from one another.

Well I remember BGC had massive plans to create a dense central core where Makati would look shameful. It looks something like

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/pf1f46db30d5b5436ae64b5a9413b9182/f9444f35.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pd6798df5b0950e9029953457159cc230/f9146a52.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pbf5406d99540a4d93642bdc96b8cc15b/f9143353.jpg

Thanks for the info and explanation, bustero. But im confused like renell...so they cant make a dense supertall center for BGC because of FAR regulations? Or is there a way to do it?

GT International Tower on Ayala Avenue is on what kind of slot? The land it is on is not that big for its tall size. Same for LKG and PBcom.

hmm... but really it's not taking up the full 712ft/217m of floor area is it? I thought from 591ft it's all spire from then on. hmm... actually now come to think of it the tallest building in Ayala Avenue (with the exception of PBCom, Enterprise and RCBC, which are in corner lots themselves)) are either 180m to the roof or lower....

i quite got that. so they have FAR restrictions in different zones of FBGC? i know there are height restrictions, but having FAR as the criteria seems more logical to me. But then, height rule should still prevail since FBGC wants to create a dome-like skyline (according to my readings) with increasing heights as you go towards that inner circle.
In Makati, there seems to be no way to reduce your FAR. The number of your floors will be your FAR since most Makati skyscrapers are placed wall-to-wall with each other.

By the way, I read from somewhere before that Gross leaseable space does not include lobbies and hallways. is it true?

FBGC's plan to create a dome like skyline using FAR regulations is a very good move...so future buildings in the inner circle of big delta will be very tall. But Serandra does not follow this case, because its taller condos are in the outer part of BGC while the low rise condos are very near to the inner circle...

The FAR explaination is why a lot of the condos near the golf course arent that tall...ahh, i get it now:)

speaking of lobbies francis, almost all of those buildings in the video thomasian posted seems to have huge lobbies, podiums.

You can clearly see FAR increasing nearer to the inner circle of BGC...

http://www.fbglobalcity.com/images/esquare.jpg

Grey X pointed it out correctly the Fort is designed to be highest in the center as can be seen by the FARs going lower as you get to the lots away from the center.

Renell your picture shows exactly how it will work, notice that the buildings are NOT side by side like in Legaspi village or Ayala Ave. They're either sticking out of the ground or have very low podiums. Over all this actually creates a higher valuebuilding as , if the buildings are not side by side then the perimieter of the building will allhave views or at the least light.

Serendra is in a way different because it's actually not part of the original FBDC lot, its BCDA but in essence Serendra still follows the original plan, it just that in gettng such a big lot they can choose to lower the buildings for the majority of the area and move that space to a few chosen buildings. I think the reason they have the tall ones on the side is that they chose to finish the core first (which includes quite a bit of commercial and is an attractive feature of the project) and then use this to slowly increase the prices as when they have the higher towers.

Again even with a low FAR you can build a high building jsut have a lot of open space, like Pacific Plaza which has 1 hectare of space but each floor of the twin building have only 700sq.m.

Gross leasable space is tricky and you have to watch out for it when it's used.
In development the developer will not count the lobbies as he can't sell it. So there's ussually the Construction Floor Area (everything including roof slabs, roads, driveways) then take away all of those mentioned above or similar in nature to it and you have the Gross floor area which still includes the halls, elevators, stairwells , lobbies, take those away then you have net leasable or sellable. This is the actual space you use. Brokers and Developers may sometimes use this interchangeable and best is to ask if they are including the common areas in the count. Megaworld policy has gross leasable area where you actually pay for the rental of your proportion of the hall. Tektite (PSEC) on the other hand charges only for the exact space you use the net usable space. Best not to get caught up in terminology/semantic and ask for the exact difference.

Wow...thanks for the valuable info once again, bustero. Let me move these posts to the BGC thread.

I heard that most of the land in fort bonifacio is sold/leased out

Anybody know what buildings will be built in the future?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid151/p7f385f0625faffebac77b0f0243fac63/f5d071f1.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid156/pb71084751606ead50e667529d43823ae/f54554ab.jpg

there's quite a number of buildings, in developments mostly, that are u/c in BGC, just check Projects on the Rise. I count it at at least 10 high-rises

by the way what happened to that E-square area? does that zone include Net One Center? It already has PEZA Certification.

st lukes medical center in bonifacio global city inaugurated today.kailan ang construction

My doctor cousin said 2007 ang tapos.

Cool...2007 is not too far away.

Yes, Net One is included in the E-Square area.. Net One and Hatch Asia (now Bonifacio Technology Center), are both PEZA accredited.

by the way what happened to that E-square area? does that zone include Net One Center? It already has PEZA Certification.

ok, thanks for that @ Dvorak.

And isn't there another Net One-like development happening too in BGC?

you're referring to net two, which the owners of net one are planning, i've not heard anything concrete lately on this.

Yeah couple of weeks back there was some articles about it, also about increasing demand in office space in Global City. How about some u/c happening in the site itslef, anything?

2.6.05
http://www.geocities.com/a_ofngol/Photo_020605_007x.jpg

wow great picture. great view and potential! makes me feel like I'm there right now!

nice shot

is that tower crane at fairways tower site? construction is kinda slow.

i'd love to answer it without any doubt but there's so much projects in BGC i dunno which is which with the current lack of numerous landmarks:D I think it's Forbes something Town I think it was, I remember I, or maybe someone, mentioned the contrast between its more country-style look and Pacific twins' post-modernism

nice view of BGC...what u/c is that crane for?

I agree with renell...hope that there are future landmarks in bGC. I want more post-modernism buildings:D

construction crane on little building is Forbestown.

Tower crane on left is for Serendra , as is the hydraulic crane.

http://www.geocities.com/a_ofngol/Photo_020605_007x.jpg

the crane on the left is for Fairways. Im not sure on that crane on the right of net one. it probably is for one of the buildings of Forbes Town heights or maybe Bellagio 1. Serendra construction is not shown in the photo...if you have it shifted farther right, you would see another 3 or 4 cranes.

What are those utility cables on the right? I thought all BGC utilities were underground.

thanks for the photo pau!

What are those utility cables on the right? I thought all BGC utilities were underground.

They are temporary cables. The more developed areas of BGC already have them underground.

Does BGC have hotels already ?

Posted: 11:08 PM | Feb. 08, 2005

XFN-Asia


PHILIPPINE Realty & Holdings Corp. (Philrealty) said it would undertake a joint venture agreement with Next Properties Inc. for the development of residential condominiums in Philrealty's property at the Bonifacio Global City in Metro Manila.

In a disclosure to the stock exchange, Philrealty said it would contribute its two lots, with a combined area of 4,423 square meters, to the joint venture and in turn would be paid the cost of the lots plus a share of the profits from the sale of the condominiums.

Next Properties will be solely responsible for the construction of the two towers over a period of five to six years, Philrealty added.



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I think wala pa.

I think wala pa.

OMG, sorry bebehmaldita, I'm just using the library PC and I didn't notice you are the one logged in SSC so my post appeared under your name.
Anyway, as I was saying I think wala pa ngang hotel sa BGC.

Wow. An accidental expose of a mystery member. Welcome to the forums bebehmaldita!

Wow , Thom saang library naman ikaw nag access , ang galing naman ng library na iyan may free internet access .

OMG, sorry bebehmaldita, I'm just using the library PC and I didn't notice you are the one logged in SSC so my post appeared under your name.
Anyway, as I was saying I think wala pa ngang hotel sa BGC.

so does that mean that bebehmaldita goes to the same library as you?:D

yeah, there arent any hotels in BGC yet.

uhhh, sa Central Library ng UST.

so does that mean that bebehmaldita goes to the same library as you?:D

yeah, there arent any hotels in BGC yet.

not just in the same library, but also in the same PC. If I counted it right, there are like 60 PCs in this room.

i thought theyre going to construct a grand hyatt in bgc, wht happen to that project xxled????

Kasi , kaya wala pang hotel , napakalapit ng BGC sa Makati ....same thing with Rockwell or Eastwood wala rin yatang hotel pa pero bawi naman sa high-rise residentials ... booming naman kasi ang residentials.

The last high-end open space in the Fort Bonifacio Global City prime development area adjoining the Manila Golf Club, currently wasting away as parking space in front of the popular UCC Terrace Café, will finally be developed.

Lot owner Philippine Realty has agreed to a joint venture with ICTSI's Enrique Razon Jr., developer Alfred Xerez-Burgos Jr., and ex-Philtown president Raul Martinez, with the latter group putting in capital and technical/marketing expertise for the planned twin condos.

i thought theyre going to construct a grand hyatt in bgc, wht happen to that project xxled????

perhaps in the future but not now. most probably it is not needed, so why build one.

How tall will those twin condos be?

I guess Hyatt is just waiting for the perfect time to build a hotel in BGC. Also, there is no news of Capital Place starting soon. And Grand Hyatt will be part of that office complex.

@ thomasian - wow...what are the chances:D

another twins for BGC... cheers :cheers:

would it be new or something we have heard of already?

CA declares Inner Fort part of Taguig and not Makati
By MERCEDES E. RULLAN | TODAY Reporter | ABS-CBNNews.com

The 74 hectares of land at Fort Bonifacio also known as the “inner fort” and its military camp proper, namely the Barangay Northside and Southside, was declared part of the Municipality of Taguig and not Makati City, it was learned Thursday.

This was ruled in a 20-page decision of the Special Fourteenth Division of the Court of Appeals penned by Justice Edgardo Sundiam that affirmed its earlier ruling dated February 24,2004 and July 18, 2003 denying the petition for a preliminary injuction by the City of Makati regarding the said lots.

“The Jacinto decision dated April 27, 1995 in CA-GR SP 35857 as modified by the Jacinto resolution, dated September 11, 1995, reinstating the preliminary injuction over the ‘inner fort’ became final and executory on July 2, 1996,” the appellate court said.

The preliminary injunction was also granted due to the failure of the Makati City to question before the Supreme Court the reinstatement of the preliminary injuction over the “Inner Fort” in the Jacinto resolution; the said resolution attained finality and became executory on July 2, 1996.

“Therefore, the Jacinto resolution, which has long become final and executory, is now the law of the case on the issue of the propriety of the issuance of a writ of preliminary injunction over the ‘inner fort’ and can no longer be modified and reviewed,” the appellate court ruled.

The appellate court ruled in favor of the Taguig government as it has other equally relievable evidence with which to show and establish that Makati in fact is not exercising jurisdiction over the inner fort.

“It is worthy to note that the foregoing evidence were given credence by the Court a quo when it ruled that respondent Taguig’s application for preliminary injuction is impressed with merit,” it said.

The boundary dispute between the City of Makati and the Municipality of Taguig started way back in November 22, 1993 after a complaint for a judicial confirmation of the territory and boundary limits of Taguig and declaration of the unconstitutionality and nullity of certain provisions proclamaitions 245 and 518 with prayer for a writ of preliminary injuction and restraining order by the Taguig government.

The case was filed at the Regional Trial Court Branch 153, Pasig City.

So on the map, where are the boundaries? I wonder how this would be administratively.

YES, again...google crazy for FBGC! (add .orig.jpg again for og pics!) :)

thanks again to all photographers, all credits goes to them: Nat Pagoyonan, Kelly Mark/ Ryan Takuma, Regie Fernando, Steve Hughes, Antonio Ablog, Deo David, Jessica Price, Larry Lam, Cheryl Borsoto, Manny Max Abecia, Jill Kuehnert, Patrick Chan, Brian McMorrow, Lou Giroud, Jon Tengco, Edita Rodulfo, Jill Lejano, Mar1e, Bryce Allison, Doris Baltazar, Derick Gamboa, Mel Labrador, PS_Imaging, Glen Nabarrete, Loren X, Rex Rafael, Jaime Bartolome, Joel Garcia, Mitbatch91, R.M. De Luna, James Bonner, Dorian Chan, Jon Agner, Ramon Marcelino Avypooh, yeyeri1, Tonypet, Kersti, Alfred Floro, Xavier Lin, and Vic Icasas.


THIS IS MY FAVE, i think its the coolest bgc pic ever
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/pe5071255f0a32ebe17764da5183ae169/f529160a.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p91541736d5fa465e56f12aaed0282c51/f5291603.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p2206f6d85f610496efe7bbad63dc4ffa/f52915fd.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p05d352c2e68464f3cdb8a80f4ae45baf/f52915f4.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p6e24682bb37179179a65db16d2fe1acf/f52915e2.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p952e4b72b755873ad0b0a2093d11fda5/f52915dd.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p7c10d6157cda89ca830ae7c472edd78d/f52915d7.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p3e9fb1cdf4fbbbbd59c54c92c5d04ab5/f52915d3.jpg

thanks again for the photgraphers who took these photos

Wow...great pics, especially the aerial. BGC is is very brown, how come there isnt much grass in the open areas? They should plant more trees along the streets.

I love Manila Polo Club...its so clean and well kept:okay:

but Taguig is no longer a municipality but already a city!

aha so youre a disc player isagani, good game.

I don't think the ruling by the CA is really news, the area has been under taguig administration for a long time now. it's just that mankait wanted the extra revenue since they see the area becomeing higher value like makati so they can tax , regulate and leach on it.

here are some pictures that I took in BGC when I went to Market! Market! last sat...

Andres Bonifacio
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/pa7ed7fb7cd0e5832aef27eaface67406/f522bf6d.jpg

view from Market! Market!'s window
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/456403de.jpg

a panoramic view of surrounding CBDs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/93d37c8c.jpg

Metro Market! Market! - sensya di lang maganda pagka-stitch ng pix..:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/f734fb96.jpg

Serendra site and Market! Market!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/39e11f1d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p33ee10cf410de05e7d3ad58cb15c8e56/f522c13d.jpg

Essensa viewed from Market! Market!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/pc5dd5c45072b7e787d6be4d2321df395/f522c49c.jpg

Pacific Plaza
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p77d170cebda3ba2db7fd442f6852cfe5/f522c1d6.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p710e4b14b993bc3cdd01e2c1ca445644/f522beac.jpg

NBC Tent and Essensa
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/peb89c689a11c8ed3091b9da48945b922/f522bdcf.jpg

thanks for the pictures pau! market market looks alright, not as nice as the other ayala mall, sayang..

:applause: :master: Wow...superb pics, paul! Great job...i really like the panos. Serandra is indeed a huge project, i love the sight of many cranes:D Market! Market! is a very attractive mall:okay:

:cheers: PAU IS THE GREATEST! always awesome, yummy pics!

thanks guys.. :D

great pix. What's the name of the building beside pacific plaza?

One McKinley Place. same builder as Essensa Towers

which is? isn't it RFM? or.... same owner different name, isn't it Fil-Estate?

Developer of One McKinley Place is Philtown (Philippine Townships Inc.) a subsidiary of RFM.
Other Philtown developments are Fairways Tower and The Metropolitan.

Right:D

What are Fil-Estate projects?

Buyers snap up Fort Boni lots
The Philippine STAR 02/19/2005

Mirroring the country’s strong economy in 2004, Bonifacio Global City reported heightened investor interest in the emerging business district and brisk lot sales in the past 10 months. The market was particularly keen on a section of the business district close to the international schools and Kalayaan Avenue named Bonifacio Triangle. Since its launch in April 2004, almost half or 17 out of 36 lots were snappedup in Bonifacio Triangle.

With land values expected to increase following the 6.1 percent growth of the economy, Jun Bisnar, head for commercial operations of Fort Bonifacio Development Corp., foresees that the remaining lots in Bonifacio Triangle will be sold quickly. "Buyers are likely to take advantage of current prices before real estate demand shoots up as it always does in a strong economy," he says.

The five-hectare Bonifacio Triangle offers quick and convenient access to the Makati and Ortigas business district, the country’s major centers of business and finance. According to Bisnar, this strategic advantage has been cited by urban planners as key to a new business district’s success.

Lot buyers will soon experience the benefits of locating at Bonifacio Triangle, with 40 percent disclosing that they shall start construction on their properties withhin the next two years. Another 27 percent said they shall begin within three to five years. Close to 40 percent of the buyers indicated that they planned to build office buildings; 28 percent said they would develop retail and commercial buildings; while the rest would opt ffor residential complexes.

Bonifacio Triangle is located nearest to Kalayaan Avenue, which connects to both C-5 and EDSA. Its location guarantees high visibility and customer traffic for businesses and other enterprises. At the same time, the project also benefits from being part of Bonifacio Global City, which boasts of world-class infrastructure and is envisioned as the country’s future premier business district. Horizontal development of Bonifacio Triangle is in full swing and will be completed by 2006.

More information about Bonifacio Triangle is available from Bonifacio Global City’s website www.fbglobalcity.com.

Excellent!:applause: But i think buildings in Bonifacio Triangle will be shorter than the ones in the center because its in the northern outskirts of BGC. I expect a smaller FAR regulation.

More info about Bonifacio Triangle from http://www.fbglobalcity.com/.

Bonifacio Triangle
http://www.fbglobalcity.com/images/bonitriangle.jpg

<br><h2>Project Details.</h2>
<li><p>Floor Area Ratio: 6</p></li>
<li><p>Lot sizes: 950- 1,279 square meters</p></li>
<li><p>Zoning: Mixed-Use</p></li>
<h2>Project Features.</h2>
<li><p>Bonifacio Global City’s gateway to the north, with easy access to Makati and Ortigas.</p></li>
<li><p>Close to high-end international schools and right across the Japanese School.</p></li>
<li><p>Along main roads: Kalayaan Avenue and University Parkway</p></li>
<li><p>Lower density given lower FAR and surrounding low-rise institutions.</p></li>
<li><p>Lot sizes provide greater flexibility, so buyers may opt for one lot or a combination of lots.</p></li>

http://www.fbglobalcity.com/images/setframe.jpg

Thanks, thomasian. Yep, FAR is only 6...so the buildings wont be that tall. Its alright, it will make a good dome like BGC skyline.

Floor Area Ratio of 6? Care to explain more? I'm still a little confused about this.

I understand it...but i cant explain it well:D Bustero can explain it very well. You can turn to page 4 of this thread for info about FAR.

a FAR as the name implies is the total floor area divided by the lot area.
it's like having a 6-storey building that occupies 1/6 of the whole lot area.
now let's do some speculation...assuming the lot area is 3000 sq.m...and only 1/5 of the lot is used to build the structure...then to achieve a FAR 6:

X*(1/5) = 6 where X is the number of floors of the structure then:
X = 6*5
X = 30

then a 30-storey tower should be constructed on a 3000sq.m lot. Each floor should have 600 sq m in each floor. i think that is just ideal for a residential tower.
what do you think guys? am i right @ bustero?

time for another set of pics. taken from Metro Pacific annual report

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid80/pe7fee96e6efcfab6cc6072996322e24f/fb0b4589.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid80/paa6cbf647e63a518de2b171a5c39f268/fb0b4427.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid80/pb0757bfa95e22d930c9428b729c8c186/fb0b4394.jpg

Great pics...The Pacific Plaza Towers always looks nice.

i could see some of the lower floors of One McKinley already occupied by tenants. but still, Pacific Plaza boasts itself as being the residential condominium with highest occupancy of its owners. it was bought by the owners mainly for them to stay there and not for investment. but still, not all units were sold out.

I like the third one, although I have seen it before. :)

Floor Area Ratio of 6? Care to explain more? I'm still a little confused about this.

All I have to remember is higher the FAR, more floor area IE taller buildings or wide buildings. If we're to see any high-rises here they have to be pretty narrow with huge lots, like Bustero explained.

Here's another question I pose, how would buildings with setbacks be affected by FAR?

Scrap my question.. this should clear things up

"Simply put if the lot is 1000 sq.m. and the FAR is 8 then your buildable Gross Floor Area is 8000" -bustero

Buyers snap up Fort Boni lots

The Philippine STAR 02/19/2005

Mirroring the country’s strong economy in 2004, Bonifacio Global City reported heightened investor interest in the emerging business district and brisk lot sales in the past 10 months. The market was particularly keen on a section of the business district close to the international schools and Kalayaan Avenue named Bonifacio Triangle. Since its launch in April 2004, almost half or 17 out of 36 lots were snappedup in Bonifacio Triangle.

With land values expected to increase following the 6.1 percent growth of the economy, Jun Bisnar, head for commercial operations of Fort Bonifacio Development Corp., foresees that the remaining lots in Bonifacio Triangle will be sold quickly. "Buyers are likely to take advantage of current prices before real estate demand shoots up as it always does in a strong economy," he says.

The five-hectare Bonifacio Triangle offers quick and convenient access to the Makati and Ortigas business district, the country’s major centers of business and finance. According to Bisnar, this strategic advantage has been cited by urban planners as key to a new business district’s success.

Lot buyers will soon experience the benefits of locating at Bonifacio Triangle, with 40 percent disclosing that they shall start construction on their properties withhin the next two years. Another 27 percent said they shall begin within three to five years. Close to 40 percent of the buyers indicated that they planned to build office buildings; 28 percent said they would develop retail and commercial buildings; while the rest would opt ffor residential complexes.

Bonifacio Triangle is located nearest to Kalayaan Avenue, which connects to both C-5 and EDSA. Its location guarantees high visibility and customer traffic for businesses and other enterprises. At the same time, the project also benefits from being part of Bonifacio Global City, which boasts of world-class infrastructure and is envisioned as the country’s future premier business district. Horizontal development of Bonifacio Triangle is in full swing and will be completed by 2006.

More information about Bonifacio Triangle is available from Bonifacio Global City’s website www.fbglobalcity.com.

uhhmm... I already posted that article before. It's on page 7 of this thread.

wow, buss is really booming inside the fort, i could see cranes everywhere :colgate:

uhhmm... I already posted that article before. It's on page 7 of this thread.

oh sorry:D

wow, buss is really booming inside the fort, i could see cranes everywhere :colgate:

Well you'd see another crane (two actually, because the project would be twins) in BGC thanks to The Icon Residences soon to rise at BGC.
The Icon Residences (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=182479)

I bet in a few years, BGC will have cranes everywhere!

I thought it already has? :D

Most notably Serendra and Forbes Town.

share ko lang mga not so good pics ko. :D

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p3ca4d2d506c5c0e80406c43dc7720ea6/f50f6218.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p9b5a0eea8413cf49ff8e8cc51f488d2e/f50f624d.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p5085b4d23eba5484728f990982466f46/f50f625d.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/pa0cb59097dd7d46a6edf3d6ebb6bc71f/f50f6242.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p4535c20ed61fe3b96718fe7b29f07dcb/f50f33c2.jpg

wow... nice naman ahh... :D

yep. better than nothing. plus those photos still shows one side of BGC which is still to be developed.

thanks. pampalubag-loob kc pinagtitinginan ako ng mga tao ng kumukuha ako ng pics. parang "she's crazy!" :crazy: arggh! I don't care. basta I enjoyed taking pics. :D
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/pde19a790d7e970688d6cc5e4c1c50a06/f50f3377.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p23ae85ab684e98e2ef14f0450a5d175e/f50f33be.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p735a826345bccf5803b0f2dff7dd1f95/f50f339a.jpg

thanks. pampalubag-loob kc pinagtitinginan ako ng mga tao ng kumukuha ako ng pics. parang "she's crazy!" :crazy: arggh! I don't care. basta I enjoyed taking pics. :D

Ok lang yun, wala namang tumawag ng ambulansya para itakbo ka sa Mandaluyong diba:?
Kasi kung wala pa, kami na bahalang magpatawag ng limo para ihatid ka sa Mandaluyong, at least sosy yung arrival mo sa Manda di ba? naka limousine ka na nga tapos baka mapagkamalan ka pa nung ibang patients na si Bea Alonzo! :colgate:

peace po tayo ha :nocrook: , baka bigla mo na lang akong upakan sa meet natin eh :colgate:

^ grrr. hindi po ako kamukha ni Bea Alonzo, ang ganda nun. wag nyo na akong asarin. :cry: pag inasar mo pa ako, uupakan talaga kita (mapagaya ka pa sa kaklase ko nun college). haha. :jk:
anyway, back to the topic na.

Just hope someone doesn't try to steal money by using low grade steel beams from a fake manufacturer like they did back in 1992 - 1997. Countless unamed buildings around ortigas and were already built using those beams. If the next big earthquake hit, don't be surprised...

Maybe in Ortigas, not with the prices of those residential units in BGC.

cool pics...i like the palm trees:)

@ renell - i mean A LOT of cranes:D

Pardon my ignorance, how many skycrapers were built there since 2000.

thanks. pampalubag-loob kc pinagtitinginan ako ng mga tao ng kumukuha ako ng pics. parang "she's crazy!" :crazy: arggh! I don't care. basta I enjoyed taking pics. :D


naiintindihan kita... it's a normal reaction of bystanders... na after mo kumuha ng pix... lilingon silang lahat sa kinukunan mo... na medyo gulong gulo ang mga isipan nila at di maipinta ang mga mukha... na parang nasa isip nila... ano naman meron dun sa kinukunan ng lokong 'to!.. hehehehe

:lol: exactly. mag-isa pa naman ako..kc mga kasama ko nawe-weirdo-han din sa akin, so iniwan ako. Pakiramdam ko nga sinusundan ako ng guard..kc from Flower Shop hanggang sa Parking Lot kasunod ko cya. o natutuwa na natatawa cya sa akin na "bakit kaya kinukunan nito un walang kamalay-malay na fruits? flowers? parking lot? un napakalayong buildings? etc." :hilarious:

same here... ung iba pa nga nawiwierdohan pag nakita mga pix ko... 'ba't daw puro building... bakit daw puro scenery ang kinukunan ko at hindi tao'... hehehe....

Pardon my ignorance, how many skycrapers were built there since 2000.

umm.. there's..

-Penhurst Parkplace
-Bonifacio Ridge (2)
-Essensa (2)
-Regent Parkway
-One Mckinley

There's also a couple more, Pacific Plaza, Net One most notably, but I know the former was built in 1999, the latter I'm not so sure. :)

Thomasian,

Just came back from a very short vacation in the Philippines. I've visited the Global City but I did not have a meal inside Market!Market! but instead had dinner at Pier One which was a disappointment, BAD SERVICE!! Too many diners and the staff was overwhelmed although the view was beautiful. We had dinner on the topmost floor with a view of the surrounding areas. I took only couple of shots so hopefully it comes out nice but I have back up pictures taken of Global City at another location to add to my album I will share them here with you guys later on.

Pearl of the Orient Seas - The Philippines (http://community.webshots.com/user/jbkayaker12)

Jon

ok, thanks guys for sharing your photos. inactive ako ngayon sa pagkuha ng pics. kasi walang fund and resources, saka walang appetite ngayon.
lahat din ng nakakakita ng kinukuhanan ko na weweirduhan talaga sa kin. at napapakunot ng noo. me 2 albums na nga ako ng sobrang kakapal na collection, tho di gaanong de kalidad at products lang ng pagprapraktis. pero ok na rin. pampalubag loob.
pero yung iba naaappreciate din ang pagiging big fan ko ng skycrapers. pero me gagawin pa akong album...this time, places and people naman ang subject para di boring sa iba. hopefully, i could show them pag matuloy ang get-together ng mga forumers. wala lang pintasan ah.

same here... ung iba pa nga nawiwierdohan pag nakita mga pix ko... 'ba't daw puro building... bakit daw puro scenery ang kinukunan ko at hindi tao'... hehehe....

Yup...i get the same reaction from bystanders. I also get the same reaction from my family and friends when they look at the pics in my digicam.

Thanks, Jon. Looking forward to your pics:) Hope you had a refreshing visit back home.

One time, I was in my work clothes and was taking pictures of Manila on my SLR. Some old woman came up to me and asked me if I was from ABS-CBN and asked me to take pictures of her because she had problems.

hahaha.... people can be a showbiz huh.. hehehe.....

that's odd.... really odd..... maybe some forms of poverty in the metro is that bad, to the point of TV desperation.

I would have taken the photos anyways, at least gives half her wish:D

okay, oops. this is a little late... i was on thought the page before this was the last page. hahaha!

wow... nice shots mhe-ann! =D not too common view of BGC nga naman.

i dunno... BGC looks so different in those. looks like there's already a low, slightly dense skyline forming behind the three famous BGC scrapers. umm, what's the u/c with the big yellow crane?

I think it's Serendra, because of its proximity to Market 2x. And the small cluster forming around the Pacific Plaza twins and One Mckin is Forbes Town I believe

I think it's Serendra, because of its proximity to Market 2x. And the small cluster forming around the Pacific Plaza twins and One Mckin is Forbes Town I believe

oh.. okay... i see. thanks..! Forbes Town is freakin huge...!! hahaha!

Stacked up to each other they'd make up quite a imposing structure:D

And now I'm a convert of the style changes from country look to vast amounts of glass.

Just got my pictures today and will start posting them here. Here are a couple of shots. :)

http://photobucket.com/albums/v635/jbkayaker12/pac.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/v635/jbkayaker12/e.jpg

Pearl of the Orient Seas - The Philippines (http://community.webshots.com/user/jbkayaker12)

Jon

Beautiful. Thanks.

ei.. those are beautiful shots.... they should be moved to the BGC thread... :D

Boybaha/Pau

Your welcome, too bad I had a short vacation but anyway it was fun....

Jon

Beautiful pics, Jon. Great job...I will move these posts to the BGC thread:)

nice pictures, would be looking forward to see others pictures of yours!

so... artistic

wow! nice work...!

nice. :)

Has this autumn-like feel. Like thomasian has said artistic Great shot :yes: :cheers:

I wished I had more time to explore and take pictures. It was a very short walk through and also nearing the end of the day. I would love to see this place when all the trees start sprouting their leaves and flowers during daytime. Thanks for the kind remarks!

Jon

would be nice to see all the tress get bigger....

what do you mean? they're already sizable.

what do you mean? they're already sizable.

haha! yeah... I was looking at jon's gallery and some of those trees at the Philippine-American Cemetery and Memorial are unusually big...

This are some pictures of the International School Manila during its construction...
http://www.jeepneygang.com/graphics/ism/ISMfortboni1.jpg
sideview
http://www.jeepneygang.com/graphics/ism/ISMfortboni2.jpg
front side
http://www.jeepneygang.com/graphics/ism/ISMfortboni5.jpg
back side
http://www.jeepneygang.com/graphics/ism/ISMfortboni4.jpg
sports field
http://www.jeepneygang.com/graphics/ism/ISMhallway.jpg
inside
http://www.jeepneygang.com/graphics/ism/ISMfortboni3.jpg
from above
http://www.jeepneygang.com/graphics/ism/ISMsolarhotwater.jpg
This solar collector system worth 6 Million Pesos (about $120,000) is being installed on the rooftop.

http://www.jeepneygang.com/graphics/ism/ftbonicampussketch600.jpg
Rendering

WooW!!!! :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

This is one heck of a school....reminds of the schools here in singapore...How I wish this type of facility will be available soon to average filipino students and not the elites only.

Still this is 1 cool school facility.

hmm, nice pics.

Yep. It's a school for rich expats.

Note: The rich, the expats and rich expats. After visiting some of my friends' homes in Belgium, I never considered ourselves rich expats, just expats.

There's also the British and the Japanese school. Though I'm not sure of their size. Reminds me of Bene, except with more modern structures and no hills.

very nice school! huge also.....

http://www.jeepneygang.com/graphics/ism/ISMfortboni4.jpg

what's this structure across the road

bene wouldn't be bene without its strange rustic vine-choked garden feel :D this is certainly not bene.

and ISM most certainly looks pretty :) at least its got nice, wide roads leading to it, unlike every other school in the metro.

I was referring to the massive structures that were lined up throughout the campus. And the massive expanses of open space.

My school is still better than ISM;) hehehe..but ISM has facilities that are now on par or better than the other IASAS schools. renell is right, not just the rich and rich expats but also middle class expats since tuition is paid by the company.

@Aragon - That would have to be either the Japanese or British School.

Global City definitely looks promising. Nice architecture on the buildings, top rate schools. There are numerous restaurants to dine and a nearby shopping mall to boot. It can only get better if people in charge stay focus and if there is one corporation that can do this, its the Ayala Land Inc.

Pearl of the Orient Seas - The Philippines (http://community.webshots.com/user/jbkayaker12)

Jon

nice

Here are photos of condos at Bonifacio Global City taken at dusk.

http://photobucket.com/albums/v635/jbkayaker12/fb1.jpg

Http://photobucket.com/albums/v635/jbkayaker12/fb4.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/v635/jbkayaker12/fb3.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/v635/jbkayaker12/fb2.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/v635/jbkayaker12/fb5.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/v635/jbkayaker12/fb6.jpg

Pearl of the Orient Seas - The Philippines (http://community.webshots.com/user/jbkayaker12)

Jon

whowowow! awesome!!! :bow:

way to go jon, keep it up! :okay:

Indeed, awesome pics:okay:

awesome pics&skyscrapers ;) :yes:

Regent Parkway's mediocrity is somewhat cancelled out by the Essensa twins.

That's it for now until next year for more photos of BGC. Thanks. :)

Jon

Next year!? Why next year!? :(

www.realtyph.com/aboutglobalcity

Thanks for the link! BGC indeed has potential for greatness! :okay:

Next year!? Why next year!? :(

That'll be my next trip, Jan of 2006. Hopefully the new international airport would be open by that time. :)

Jon

What a developing and modern place, in the Philippines! And this school is so amazing that it's hard to believe that it's in the Philippines. It's true that it will probably be the elite Filipinos who will be attending there, but there will also be expats and foreign students, which is a good thing because we need to get things going again with our educational system and how the country once was the place to study and foreign students would come to study in the Philippines.

nice shots!! I hope I'll be able to go to BGC when I go back to Manila... haven't been there too many times before.

International School Manila looks awesome!!! wow... definitely the most stunning elementary/secondary school I've to come across! is it already complete or are those recent u/c pics? where was the old ISM?

It was in.... I think it was near (correction: it was in) Bel-Air village, Makati. And yeah they're in their new campus... i think ryan, or the website told me that:D

Hope to get BGC pics, whenever I go back (Dec. 05 or Dec. 06)

They've been using their new campus for about 2 years now, i believe. The old campus wasnt near Bel-Air, it was in Bel-Air;)
And yes of course there are lots of expats in ISM (hence the name "International School of Manila")

Old IS capmus is along Kalayaan (Imelda) ave, infront of Bel Air 1 (I think... am not sure of the numbering of belair).

The british school and the Japanese school are also very beautiful. These international standard schools really spent on their campuses.

Indeed...Does anyone know how bad the traffic is in that area during school days? I can imagine its pretty bad because there are 3 major IS schools.

Going to my school, the traffic congestion is pretty bad in the morning, and its just my school and a local school in the area.

Good point. It's pretty bad in my IS in this rural village south of Brussels where you had a two-lane road servicing a school with something like 1000 students everyday, include with that staff. We are talking about 3 international schools eh? Probably crap then:D I mean not 90's EDSA crap though.... and probably 0% of them walk, even if they live in Essensa or whatever BGC apartment.

All arguments lead to bad traffic 30 minutes before the start of school and 30 minutes after.

Yeah...traffic should be at around 7am and 3pm every school day. And their are only two access points to those schools which are not that wide (one is two lanes and the other is 4 lanes with a center median). Plus, to add more traffic congestion, there are PNP checkpoints because of security issues (terrorism, etc).

What a developing and modern place, in the Philippines! And this school is so amazing that it's hard to believe that it's in the Philippines. It's true that it will probably be the elite Filipinos who will be attending there, but there will also be expats and foreign students, which is a good thing because we need to get things going again with our educational system and how the country once was the place to study and foreign students would come to study in the Philippines.
lots of koreans still go and study english in the philippines..i believe one of them is in baguio or is it subic

lots of koreans still go and study english in the philippines..i believe one of them is in baguio or is it subic

Or the Philippines sends English teachers to Korea to teach at the numerous English Language Institutes that abounds there. :)

Or the Philippines sends English teachers to Korea to teach at the numerous English Language Institutes that abounds there. :)

Although out of topic here, the USA also hire Filipino teachers to teach English in their schools. :)

Jon

Update! Original BGC thread in the archives can be found here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=187505

and around 10,000 koreans are in the country just to learn their basic English.

a couple of recent aerials of BGC from the Philskies forums...credits go to "pancreas".

http://www.philskies.net/library/pancreas/Planespotting/Feb_March/Dsc05710.jpg

http://www.philskies.net/library/pancreas/Planespotting/Feb_March/Dsc05881.jpg

BGC looks very different now... real nice though!! especially in the second picture. seems like there are a couple new roads. but they were probably there long ago...

that area facing the Manila golf course, or around it has turned brown. Must also be fenced, or most of it. Well after all it is the hottest part of BGC.

awesome pics

yeah.. beautiful shots.. specially the second one

Yeah, the second one is sweet. Parang Sim City :D

:eek2: Amazing aerials! So much room for development. I like how the city is very green from that angle:D

Yeah, the second one is sweet. Parang Sim City :D
one thing, the second shot looks a lot clearer

wow! looks good

I love those photos. Thank you.

great aerials! thanks for posting. :okay:

Yeah, the second one is sweet. Parang Sim City

i wish to see philippine skyscrapers on Sim City, particularly the Pacific Plaza towers. playing SC would be more enjoyable :D

St. Luke’s to complete Bonifacio development
ABS-CBNNews.com | March 12, 2005

The completion of St. Luke’s Medical Center’s P6.5-billion 600-bed facility is seen to complete the overall development of the Fort Bonifacio Global City in Taguig.

According to the Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA), the facility will complement the development of Fort Bonifacio and will further lure investors to the area.

“The Bonifacio Global City is currently made-up of an educational/institutional area, commercial/business area and residential area. The addition of St. Luke’s will complete the overall development plan of Global City,” said Dean Santiago, BCDA dean of land and assets development department.

Last month, St. Luke’s held its groundbreaking ceremonies and the project is slated for completion by 2008.

With the new hospital, St. Luke’s will be operating two world-class hospitals in the country, including the St. Luke’s Medical Center in Quezon City.

St. Luke’s said it has maintained its position as the most advanced hospital in the country, with the highest standards in terms of medical equipment and technology, range of services, professional expertise, quality of patient care, customer service and medical research.

On the other hand, the Bonifacio Global City boasts of a central location that is a few minutes away from the Makati Central Business District, the Naia Terminal 3, C-5 and the Ortigas area. With the current pace of investments taking place, the development of the Global City is on track in making it a key international business district that is expected to generate the needed revenue for the government and create more jobs for the Filipino people, the BCDA said. Alena Mae S. Flores
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I think BGC still lacks museums and convention centers and stadiums for it to become a truly world-class city, but it's a given that all that can't just happen overnight and that new developments - like St. Luke's - will potentially spark the construction of such in the future. I hope, though, that developers don't just close themselves into merely putting up residential after residential and that they will go beyond office towers and condos. but there's still lots of time... and it is BGC we're talking about, so I'm sure all that and more can and will happen.