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ryanr April 15th, 2006, 08:40 PM Beautiful pics, Paul!:) Nice to see that they are wasting no time in remodelling BGC's layout. Those pics were worth the sunburn because they show people me outside the Philippines how great BGC is:okay:
Thanks tootjap for posting that here. Very nice, I love the integration of parks and curved shopping plazas. If only it was bigger so we can see the details.
bagel April 15th, 2006, 10:03 PM Yeah I've been looking over the ALI website. Can't find anything about FBGC.
ryanr April 15th, 2006, 10:15 PM Same...I checked the site map and everything.
geebeng April 15th, 2006, 10:45 PM go to ayaland website click on Investor Relations and download Presentations.
ryanr April 15th, 2006, 10:59 PM ^ Thanks, interesting presentations. Lots of new things to look forward to. They also have a rendering of the retail promenade along the linear park.
I thought BGC is larger than MCBD? Before Ayala bought the majority shares, Metro Pacific has been claiming it is almost twice the size of MCBD.
bagel April 15th, 2006, 11:05 PM Interesting...
Here's the presentation in question.
http://www.ayalaland.com.ph/admin/images/irRepPres/Presentations/452006/JIAspeakerssupport-April5-2006AGSM.pdf
But there's a slide entitled "Strategic Landbank Management: Driving land values."
The slide says that MCBD has 54 hectares whereas FBGC has 44 hectares. Isn't FGBC much larger than MCBD?
Oh. heehehehehehehhehehhehhehehehhehhehehhehhehhe.
ryanr April 15th, 2006, 11:10 PM ^ I said that:D
Where is Canlubang?
EDIT: I google earthed it and found it in Laguna, just north of Calamba. Am i correct?
No wonder Ayala Land is building a lot of mid to high end residential communities in that area.
bustero April 16th, 2006, 04:23 AM BGC is larger, they don't include the 12 hectares of metrobank (given by fbdc as dacion en pago) and another 10 hectares still owned by bcda. The original plan also included more land further west but this has been taken over by megaworld (mckinley park) and/or is just sitting there. Cuidao with using Ayala for such type of land stats, it's their perspective only.
Canlubang is a 8000 hectare sugar plantation the Yulo's bought from the Madrigals in the 50's. Ayala has 2000 hectares there. If you've been to that area it's near the Sta Rosa Exit. Greenfield also has tons of land, as does Cathay, and Lucio Tan. Funny thing Greenfiled and Ayala had a tussle , as in naguguglangan sila with the alignment of the road . Ayala wanted the road from Mamplasan to realign to them , even if the orignal alignment was supposed to go through Greenfield, anyway the short of it is that Greenfield just built their own interchange sharing with Asia Brewery , Lucio Tan. This is a very long term project but There is not as much excitement as still the central core. Long Term urban trends leans toward a denser core and not sprawl so they need to take care of makati.
c0kelitr0 April 16th, 2006, 04:58 AM The slide says that MCBD has 54 hectares whereas FBGC has 44 hectares. Isn't FGBC much larger than MCBD?
the slide says that Ayala has a landbank of 54 hectares in MCBD and 44 hectares in FBGC ;)
Jefferyi April 16th, 2006, 05:04 AM isn't it henry n. cobb as the principal architect and not im pei?
Yes. Henry Cobb and Richard Barris are the architects on record, according to the website.
Thanks for posting those pics @Pau. Looks like things are fast changing there in BGC.
Btw, What's the name of this building:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/Global%20City/DSC07757.jpg
3cr April 16th, 2006, 10:52 AM That's called Regent Parkway Jeffery! It's located between Essensa and Fairways Tower as shown in the pic below :)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/geebeng/fairwaystower.jpg
3cr April 16th, 2006, 11:52 AM ]http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7724/fbgc0ul.jpg[/URL]
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f7/bkatoots/fbgcoldnew.jpg ^^ As much as I like Ayala's revised FBGC Masterplan, don't you think Ayala's revision makes that inner core/area more dense and packed by placing the lots and future building developments more side by side one another when compared to the space and separation between the staggered condo buildings on the outer core/part of FBGC such as the case of Essensa, Regent Parkway, Fairways Tower and Pacific Plaza to name a few. Their staggered placement gives those buildings openess and breathing space which imo will be all the more appreciated, desired, and valued as FBGC gets more developed into a Makati like city-block designed Metropolis/CBD. Just an observation lang naman. What you think?
ryanr April 16th, 2006, 07:19 PM ^ I know. That was my initial concern a few months ago when they first released the new masterplan. I just hope they leave enough space so that it wont be like Makati, where we have a situation of more wall to wall buildings! I agree with you, there should be enough space so that we get four sided buildings and some distance like Essensa and its neighbors. Skyline will just look better that way. And from the streetlevel, the density wont feel like its choking the inner core. I hope Ayala knows what they are doing, lets just see what happens. That new layout we got is not zoomed in and detailed enough for us to evaluate.
Jefferyi April 16th, 2006, 10:09 PM That's called Regent Parkway Jeffery! It's located between Essensa and Fairways Tower as shown in the pic below :)
Thank you. I think it is one of the better examples of buldings having just about the right amount of metallic cladding and glass panels. It's one of my faves list now.
pau_p1 April 17th, 2006, 03:11 AM looking at the construction of the linear shops... you'd notice that that gap in between is a bit narrow for vehicular traffic.... this is the centermost gap of the whole development.... do you think this will provide vehicular traffic or it will be part of the walking areas of that strip? I'm trying to look more closely on the new plan and I'm not sure if the lots would have the buildings' backs to the linear park or if they will be facing it... it also seem that that center area would have a pedestrian walk from a northern park to a southern park (basing from the color of that path)...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/Global%20City/DSC07719.jpg
ryanr April 17th, 2006, 03:26 AM ^ Its too small for vehicles. I think its for pedestrians. My guess is they will make the retail promenade area as pedestrian friendly as possible.
Edmundtanso April 17th, 2006, 04:02 AM i am very excited that they've started to build along the linear park! i am suprise that they were no announcement regarding this construction...hmmm maybe mitch would know =)
pau_p1 April 17th, 2006, 04:24 AM oo nga ehh.. I was surprised too when I saw the constructions going on there when I took the shots... :D at first I thought they might just be rebuilding the new roads... until I saw the structures there...
maybe they'll open up that strip at same time that they open up the Piazza...
pau_p1 April 17th, 2006, 04:40 AM I tried putting two pics to the Urban Photo Contest thread and see how others like them.. hehehe.. experiment lang.. :D
ryanr April 17th, 2006, 04:44 AM I tried putting two pics to the Urban Photo Contest thread and see how others like them.. hehehe.. experiment lang.. :D
They are good entries, Paul:)
I'm still waiting for dudz to post his magical MM shots too...esp the ones from Antipolo.
AH-7Raja April 17th, 2006, 04:45 AM ]http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7724/fbgc0ul.jpg[/URL]
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f7/bkatoots/fbgcoldnew.jpg ^^ As much as I like Ayala's revised FBGC Masterplan, don't you think Ayala's revision makes that inner core/area more dense and packed by placing the lots and future building developments more side by side one another when compared to the space and separation between the staggered condo buildings on the outer core/part of FBGC such as the case of Essensa, Regent Parkway, Fairways Tower and Pacific Plaza to name a few. Their staggered placement gives those buildings openess and breathing space which imo will be all the more appreciated, desired, and valued as FBGC gets more developed into a Makati like city-block designed Metropolis/CBD. Just an observation lang naman. What you think?
:eek2:
i think mas baduy na yung new plan, no more originality ang global city and i think its not worthy anymore to call it a global city... maybe just call it the new taguig city... i just dont see too much globalization around fort bonifacio global city, no more round thingies mostly are squarish now, and city-blocked style... pumapalpak nanaman ang civilization natin... :bash:
Francis20 April 17th, 2006, 04:47 AM [QUOTE=3cr^^ As much as I like Ayala's revised FBGC Masterplan, don't you think Ayala's revision makes that inner core/area more dense and packed by placing the lots and future building developments more side by side one another when compared to the space and separation between the staggered condo buildings on the outer core/part of FBGC such as the case of Essensa, Regent Parkway, Fairways Tower and Pacific Plaza to name a few. Their staggered placement gives those buildings openess and breathing space which imo will be all the more appreciated, desired, and valued as FBGC gets more developed into a Makati like city-block designed Metropolis/CBD. Just an observation lang naman. What you think?[/QUOTE]
i guess the revised plan is supposed to give way for more office buildings within the area. i can't read what's written on those lots, but that's one of the rationale of the revision (according to Colliers). then i would assume that residentials will be placed at the edges and offices in the middle.
pau_p1 April 17th, 2006, 04:47 AM :eek2:
i think mas baduy na yung new plan, no more originality ang global city and i think its not worthy anymore to call it a global city... maybe just call it the new taguig city... i just dont see too much globalization around fort bonifacio global city, no more round thingies mostly are squarish now, and city-blocked style... pumapalpak nanaman ang civilization natin... :bash:
naku naman.. wag mo naman idamay ang civilization natin.. it's a market force that's why I guess the corporate minds of Ayalas has thought of this...
amras April 17th, 2006, 04:51 AM they could have preserved the idea of having a central park on top of the linear park, mas astig yun. but what the heck, just like someone posted here, it's all about business and making more money. And these planners are not idiots (I suppose), so I hope the new plan would work for the better not only for business but for urban planning and skyscraper enthusiasts as well. :)
AH-7Raja April 17th, 2006, 04:58 AM nice pictures.
bustero April 17th, 2006, 06:12 AM They basically took out the centerpiece or core. IF they maintain the present FAR (which I think they would) then this will result in lower buildings. Plus there are now more small roads this will worsen traffic IMO. THe old plan had a circular flow with one way streets hence you wouldn't have congested intersections in the core. Without the central feature they've also taken out what was supposed to be the choicest lots and a rival in terms of address to Ayala Avenue. Now there is not "Ayala Avenue" in the Fort.
3cr April 17th, 2006, 09:39 AM i guess the revised plan is supposed to give way for more office buildings within the area. i can't read what's written on those lots, but that's one of the rationale of the revision (according to Colliers). then i would assume that residentials will be placed at the edges and offices in the middle. Mukha talagang packing it in for maximum occupancy. If that's their rationale then swerte talaga yung mga condos in the outskirts and along Manila Golf. Sana naman even if the lots in the inner core are cut side by side as Bustero mentioned, the developers will be allowed to buy multi lots to increase the assigned FAR for the project as well as to allow for the taller structure(s) not have to be wall to wall with other buildings as Grey mentioned. Looks like magiging parang volcano shape (butas yung gitna) yung FBGC with the establishments closest to the linear park being shorter in stature and gets progressively taller as they move outward away from the center/core. I guess interms of FBGC's skyline, it will also resemble a volcano instead of a perfect mountain if such is indeed what they have planned on doing.
3cr April 17th, 2006, 09:58 AM They basically took out the centerpiece or core. IF they maintain the present FAR (which I think they would) then this will result in lower buildings. Plus there are now more small roads this will worsen traffic IMO. THe old plan had a circular flow with one way streets hence you wouldn't have congested intersections in the core. Without the central feature they've also taken out what was supposed to be the choicest lots and a rival in terms of address to Ayala Avenue. Now there is not "Ayala Avenue" in the Fort. Bustero, What do you think of McKinley Parkway and/or Fifth Avenue? My hunch is both will be good candidates to be developed as FBGC's equivalent to Ayala Ave. though if I have to choose one I'll probably be leaning on the former. Both of those streets seem to be the longest and widest stretch of roads (and can still be widened further at this time if need be) that will make it quite an ideal place to locate FBGC's signature buildings. There is also built in name recognition already if ever they become FBGC's CBD thoroughfare (McKinley Parkway-as the so-called avenue of the elite in Pinas while Fifth Ave-New York of course). Just my opinion lang naman. What do you think? :)
pau_p1 April 17th, 2006, 11:20 AM originally.. i think they planned to make main avenue that road that will pass thru to old central circle from the Kalayaan Ave Gate to the American Cemetery rotund.... that being designed with an island.... it appears in the newer plan, that avenue still exists but stops at a northern park (I think that's where PriceMart stands now)...
renell April 17th, 2006, 11:25 AM I guess for Ayala less money is more baduy than more money ;)
Btw does mass transit come into plan with this new masterplan?
Raktak April 17th, 2006, 11:43 AM I like the new masterplan... Whether its a circular road or a grid road network, if there are a lot of cars in the street, it will still be traffic... I think the new masterplan solves this by making the fort more pedestrian friendly... Car parks are conveniently located so you can just park your car and go to places by walking... The center area of the fbgc (where the revision was done) is not really that big... I tried walking from market market to fort strip in 10 minutes (more or less)... with trees lining the streets, and the linear park and two rectangular park, walking just makes more sense... Ortigas center is also adopting this kind of urban planning...
I dont trust circular roads in the philippines... True it can be more effective than intersections but it is only effective when drivers follow the rules and give way (ie welcome rotunda)... it is also more accident prone... In paris, the most car accidents happen in the rotunda of the arc de triumph...
The smaller cut of the lots doesnt mean small buildings will be built there... It just gives the developer more flexibility. If they want to build a skyscraper, then they can buy two lots...
Parks makes property value increases... more so than big avenues... why? becuase big avenues is very traffic and noisy so nobody would want to live there... i think the choice lots will be besides the two rectangular parks.
Im happy with the new masterplan. Cant wait for the promenade to finish along with its linear park...
pau_p1 April 17th, 2006, 11:48 AM yeah that central area is not that big.. it is a 10-15min walk from Market Market to the Forbestown area.... buildings in that area that will be very tall might probably take a whole block...
3cr April 17th, 2006, 12:39 PM Btw does mass transit come into plan with this new masterplan? The subway/rail system plan is still intact as far as I know. Duon pa rin sa may MarketMarket and future Taguig convention center & coliseum yung location niya as transpo hub for FBGC. The rail is suppose to connect to MRT and Airport.
Sinjin P. April 17th, 2006, 03:30 PM Bonifacio Global City and Taguig City V
Bonifacio Global City I (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=187505) Bonifacio Global City II (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=262346) Bonifacio Global City III (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=261991) Bonifacio Global City IV (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=313428)
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Bonifacio Global City is Metro Manila’s newest business district-- it boasts of an unbeatable location next to the Makati Central Business District and just minutes away from the international airport. Bonifacio Global City’s award-winning masterplan was created by a team of international experts, while its infrastructure is one of the most advanced in the country. Already, a host of companies and individuals are proudly making Bonifacio Global City their home.
Located within Metro Manila adjacent to Manila’s Central Business District of Makati, this 246 hectare project is the first phase of an over plan to privatize a 530-hectare military base. The project concept is to develop a long term strategy to implement a phased development comprised of 138 million square feet of mixed-use commerical, retail, residential, and institutional facilities. The project is envisioned as a self-contained state-of-the-art community incorporating international standard public (above and below grade rail sytems), infrastructure and telecommunications system required for an “intelligent city.”
MASTERPLAN
A team of international consultants, tasked to design a world-class city of the future, put together the best elements in urban design, site planning, zoning, density management, pedestrian systems, infrastructure and aesthetic guidelines. The result was Bonifacio Global City's award-winning master plan.
Predominantly zoned as Mixed-use, Bonifacio Global City allows a wide range of possible uses, thereby providing lot owners with great flexibility. At the same time, specific restrictions are in place to standardize the developments and to protect the order, value and attractiveness of the City.
One such restriction is the Floor Area Ratio (FAR) scheme, which imposes a limit on the density allowed on each lot. This ensures that utilities are adequate to service the area and prevents over-congestion in the future.
Although Bonifacio Global City's original masterplan has been adopted under the new Ayala-Campos management, it is undergoing continuous review, with further refinements made to better serve the needs of today's market.
RESIDENTIAL
A sweeping view of the adjacent Manila Golf fairways. Breath-taking sights of the Makati and Ortigas skylines. These are the visual feasts available to residents of luxury condominiums at Bonifacio Global City. And since they live conveniently close to the workplace, residents have more time to relax and savor the soothing scenery.
Plush residential condominiums located in Bonifacio Global City include Pacific Plaza Towers, Essensa, Regent Parkway and One McKinley Place. Most recently, Penhurst Parkplace and FBDC's own project, Bonifacio Ridge™, have been completed.
Soon, more residential projects shall rise at the City: Ayala Land's 12-hectare Serendra, as well as Forbestown, Fairways Tower, Fifth Avenue Place and Kensington Place.
Close to all the daily destinations and surrounded by refreshing views, living in Bonifacio Global City is a hassle-free delight.
OFFICE
Bonifacio Global City offers significant benefits for office buildings. Poised as the natural extension of the Makati Central Business District, major corporate establishments are nearby. The domestic and international airports are minutes away. The industrial parks in the South are accessible. And companies can take full advantage of the City's advanced IT infrastructure.
A portion of Bonifacio Global City called E-Square has been designated as a special economic zone by the Philippine Economic Zone Authority (PEZA). PEZA-accredited companies may avail of tax and other incentives in this location.
Located in E-Square are the City's first two office buildings: FBDC-owned Bonifacio Technology Center and Net One. Tenants include international call centers and IT companies. Both buildings enjoy high occupancy levels and have turned down further demand due to unavailability of space.
COMMERCIAL
Dining and shopping options have expanded considerably in Bonifacio Global City. No longer are choices limited to a few establishments like Le Souffle, Jollibee and Price Smart.
At The Fort™, joining Le Souffle are new upscale restaurants such as Good Earth, Palm Beach and Prince of Jaipur. Behind The Fort™, there is Fort Pointe with Zong, Pasto and Kaiseki, among others. Nearby is Fort Strip, with several outlets like Fitness First, Minggoy's and Gonuts Donuts.
Aside from Shell, Starbucks and Jollibee, Bonifacio Stop-over now includes Pancake House, Pizza Hut, Chow King, Gloria Jeans Café and other popular eateries.
But the most significant addition in retail space has been brought about by Ayala Land's Market!Market!, the City's very first shopping mall. With a leasable area of over 150,000 square meters, the mall houses popular retail and specialty stores, restaurants and cafes, amusement centers, themed bazaars, a Hawkers food center and seven cinemas.
Bonifacio Global City has emerged as a retail haven. Whether bargain-hunting or splurging, feasting or snacking, it is a pleasurable and satisfying experience.
INSTITUTIONAL
A community is not complete without medical, educational and other support facilities.
One thing Bonifacio Global City can boast of is the number of schools located in it. The prestigious International School Manila, British School Manila and Manila Japanese School were among the City's early locators. Joining them are Summit School, Victory Leadership Institute and Manila Gospel. Several other schools are also leasing space at existing buildings.
A much anticipated development is the St. Luke's Medical Center. The complex will include a 16-storey hospital building with 600 patient beds and an 11-storey medical arts building with 366 doctor's offices. The hospital will offer the most advanced medical technology administered by a highly trained staff.
As Bonifacio Global City grows, other support services are expected to be made available. These will contribute to a self-sufficient and fully-integrated community.
INFRASTRUCTURE
Bonifacio Global City's utilities and infrastructure are probably the most modern and of the highest standards in the country. This assures a convenient and worry-free environment. To preserve the City's visual appeal, all utilities are laid underground.
Flooding is virtually non-existent in Bonifacio Global City. This is because it is served by country's largest private underground drainage detention structure. Twelve meters deep, the structure is capable of holding 22 million liters of water and releasing the same under controlled conditions.
Providing for cutting-edge information and communication technology, Bonifacio Global City is equipped with an integrated 48-core single mode fiber optic cable network designed by the world-renowned telecommunications consultants Ove Arup and Partners. This broadband superhighway supports a wide range of telephone, video and data applications.
Water pressure is strong and continuous in Bonifacio Global City. The state-of-the-art water and sewage system is managed by a joint venture with Veolia Water (formerly Vivendi), known for its international expertise in water operations. Water reservoirs with a combined capacity of over 18,000 cubic meters assure residents of water supply 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Water quality is guaranteed to meet the Philippine National Standards for Drinking Water. Meanwhile, the City's waste water is treated at a central sewage treatment plant located outside the City. The treatment plant complies with all national environmental standards.
A first in the Philippines, gas is distributed through an underground piping system managed by Pilipinas Shell. Patterned after international gas systems, it aims to provide residents with greater convenience.
Also underground are the electric power lines. Continuous supply of electric power is provided by MERALCO. As the population grows, sub-stations will eventually be built to service the City's growing power requirements.
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JAMAICUS April 17th, 2006, 03:31 PM I think you should post the new masterplan.
Sinjin P. April 17th, 2006, 03:33 PM Please wait for a while... I'm not a robot to do things too fast. ;)
Sinjin P. April 17th, 2006, 03:34 PM Taguig City
http://www.taguig.gov.ph/images/banner_mayor.jpg
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FORT BONIFACIO
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A 2,578 hectare property acquired by the US Gov't. during the American Colonial Period, then known as Fort McKinley which was turned over to the Philippine Government and renamed Fort Bonifacio on May 14, 1949. In 1992, it was turned over to BCDA and in 1995, Bonifacio Land Corporation, a consortium led by Metro Pacific, won the bidding to become BCDA's partner in the development of a major part of Fort Bonifacio. In 2003, Ayala Land, Inc. and Evergreen Holdings, Inc. of the Campos Group purchased from Metro Pacific a controlling stake in BLC and is now BCDA's partner in Fort Bonifacio Development Corporation (FBDC) which spearheads the master-planning of the Bonifacio Global City.
New developments continue to rise at Fort Bonifacio, home to upscale residential condominiums such as Essensa, Pacific Plaza and Regent Parkway and office buildings such as Net One and Bonifacio Technology Center. Three more residential buildings, Bonifacio Ridge, One McKinley Place and Penhurst Parkplace, have been completed, while Fairways Tower, Forbes Town, Fifth Avenue Place and Serendra have begun construction. It is also home to International School Manila, Japanese School and British School, among others. Many fine dining restaurants, fast food outlets, commercial and retail shops have opened at The Fort Square, Bonifacio Stop-over and the Car Plaza, complemented by a major retail mall: Ayala Land's Market! Market! Soon, St. Like's Medical Center will rise in the area.
SOON TO RISE: TAGUIG COLISEUM AND CONVENTION CENTER
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Soon to rise on a 3.5 hectare property beside Market! Market!, to be built by Northshore Holdings, Inc. and Mayor Fredie Tinga's administration. The place will also have a hotel, office building, service apartments, shopping center and food court.
LAKESHORE DISTRICT
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The Lakeshore District is envisioned to be the premier tourist and recreation destination of Metro Manila. Located only minutes away from the Bonifacio Global City and the new NAIA 3 Terminal, the 250-hectare lakeshore property will be home to a world-class recreational and residential development.
SOON TO RISE
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GOLF COURSE AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
A 36-hole all weather golf course
Residential fairway lots and villas
Fully equipped Golf and sports club
Natures preserve
COMMERCIAL AND MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT
Marina and Boardwalk
Floating Grandstand
Water Sports Facilities
Ferry Terminal and Fish Port
Multi Modal Transport Terminal
Sports Complex
The lakeshore is designed to have a mix of land uses and activities to create a vibrant and dynamic neighborhood. Parks and places of recreation, community and commercial buildings and lively streets make the Lakeshore development another hub for leisure and business within Taguig City.
UPPER TAGUIG
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Upper Taguig was once known as "Pinagbicutan or Pinaghukayan" later shortened to BICUTAN and eventually subdivided into four independent barangays, under the integrated reorganization plan in 1972. This former military reservation is composed of Barangays Upper Bicutan, a hilly portion of Taguig; Western Bicutan, seceded from Bicutan and Bagumbayan; Signal Village, a community for enlisted personnel of the AFP; and Maharlika Village, a Muslim settlement especially created under Proclamation No. 1217 by then President Ferdinand Marcos.
POBLACION / TIPAS
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Poblacion is comprised of barangays Sta. Ana, Wawa, Bambang, Tuktukan, Ususan and Hagonoy with Tuktukan as the seat of government and Sta. Ana as the seat of the Catholic Church. This extends to Brgys. Calzada, Palingon, Ligid and Ibayo-Tipas and Napindan. These barangays of Lower Taguig are the origins of the native Taguigenos.
BAGONG BAYAN
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Lower Taguig is composed of barangays Lower Bicutan, Bagumbayan and Bagong Tanyag. The new barangays were also named by the circumstances of their creation. Bagong Tanyag was so named because it was a newly known barrio and named after the longest serving town Mayor Monico Tanyag; Lower Bicutan, because it is on the low-lying portion of Bicutan. To Tagalogs, new is "bago" and the settlement is "bayan". When a new settlement grew south of Bicutan, the same was called BAGUMBAYAN.
Sinjin P. April 17th, 2006, 03:35 PM Fort Bonifacio Development Plan
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JAMAICUS April 17th, 2006, 03:37 PM Please wait for a while... I'm not a robot to do things too fast. ;)
Oh, sorry I thought you were finish.
thomasian April 17th, 2006, 03:39 PM The retail promenade @ BGC from ALI's presentation.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/BGC-Promenade.jpg
Sinjin P. April 17th, 2006, 03:41 PM BGC MASTERPLAN (Originally posted by 3cr)
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http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f7/bkatoots/fbgcoldnew.jpg
Pictures compiled by: boybaha and tootsjap
Sinjin P. April 17th, 2006, 03:43 PM The retail promenade @ BGC from ALI's presentation.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/BGC-Promenade.jpg
Reposting the latest update from Thread IV
Sinjin P. April 17th, 2006, 03:44 PM Thread Unofficially Closed...
The latest updates have now been posted in thread V:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=339734
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JAMAICUS April 17th, 2006, 03:47 PM Thomasias, where did you get that pic? PLEASE tell me, PLEASE!
smallvillelost April 17th, 2006, 05:46 PM Interesting...
Here's the presentation in question.
http://www.ayalaland.com.ph/admin/images/irRepPres/Presentations/452006/JIAspeakerssupport-April5-2006AGSM.pdf
But there's a slide entitled "Strategic Landbank Management: Driving land values."
The slide says that MCBD has 54 hectares whereas FBGC has 44 hectares. Isn't FGBC much larger than MCBD?
Oh. heehehehehehehhehehhehhehehehhehhehehhehhehhe.
Thanks for the info.
ryanr April 17th, 2006, 09:43 PM ^ From the Ayala Land website. Its in one of the presentations: http://www.ayalaland.com.ph/admin/i...l5-2006AGSM.pdf
I like the new masterplan... Whether its a circular road or a grid road network, if there are a lot of cars in the street, it will still be traffic... I think the new masterplan solves this by making the fort more pedestrian friendly... Car parks are conveniently located so you can just park your car and go to places by walking... The center area of the fbgc (where the revision was done) is not really that big... I tried walking from market market to fort strip in 10 minutes (more or less)... with trees lining the streets, and the linear park and two rectangular park, walking just makes more sense... Ortigas center is also adopting this kind of urban planning...
I dont trust circular roads in the philippines... True it can be more effective than intersections but it is only effective when drivers follow the rules and give way (ie welcome rotunda)... it is also more accident prone... In paris, the most car accidents happen in the rotunda of the arc de triumph...
The smaller cut of the lots doesnt mean small buildings will be built there... It just gives the developer more flexibility. If they want to build a skyscraper, then they can buy two lots...
Parks makes property value increases... more so than big avenues... why? becuase big avenues is very traffic and noisy so nobody would want to live there... i think the choice lots will be besides the two rectangular parks.
Im happy with the new masterplan. Cant wait for the promenade to finish along with its linear park...
Good post...its changing my mind a little bit, as i now agree with you. You are right, the center core isnt that big and easily walkable. So Ayala is doing the right thing by reducing vehicular traffic in the area and making it pedestrian friendly. The parks, the retail promenade and the outer carparks, make it ideal for commuters and shoppers alike to just walk to their destination. This is kinda like what Singapore did to their CBD. It doesnt have wide streets because they encourage pedestrian flow. I just hope their are good sized car parks around the area once its built up.
And yeah, to accomodate skyscrapers and build taller according to FAR regulations, developers would just have to buy several lots, maybe even a whole block. This is good, so that there will be a variety of building sizes in the downtown core of BGC, thus preventing wall-to-wall buildings. Also, because some buildings occupy a whole block, there will be space between them and neighboring buildings (road or plaza between them).
pau_p1 April 18th, 2006, 02:27 AM yeah.. more walkable areas for the pedestrians.. :D
geebeng April 18th, 2006, 02:45 AM Yan ang version ng Pinas ng Outlet Stores dito sa tate :) Nandyan ang GAP, Banana Rep, Lacoste, Polo, Armani, Coach, Nordstrom Outlets, Golfsmith, Kenneth Cole, etc., --- Nothing wrong cheaper lang kasi Off Season or discontinued, stuff from regular stores or Mall Outlets.
bustero April 18th, 2006, 04:24 AM nice job sinjin
the old transportation hub is where market market is, they catually have a jeepney terminal there now, hte plans for a north rail fast train terminus is gone
I agree that is is much more pedestrian friendly but in general it helps the middle but remember that the fort goes all the way to the north gate. What's happened here is that the areas where metrobank and bcda own which are not part of fbdc have been shut off. That's way this plan is not as good. Trace the pathway for the northgate in the old plan and you'll see that aside from the main avenue to the center of the rotunda has now been cut off. This essentially neccesitates that area to make several turns before connecting with the main area in the center.
I also do not think you'll see real tall commercial office buildings in the central area. Green queit spaces attract residents but the center was supposed to be for commerce. Without a prime address on a big broad street that can handle flows, even if you combine the small lots to get the neccesary FAR to build, you'll have traffic flow problems.
JAMAICUS April 18th, 2006, 04:35 AM Somebody who works for FBGC, originaly posted by 3cr.
Sir's & Ma'ams -
Greetings po! We surely are grateful that most of our Serendra buyers here are excited and very well-informed regarding their purchases, while prospects are enthusiastic. So happy to find a Serendra thread here. =) Us agents are excited too. Hoping though that our buyers here have already received any of their official receipts/invoices and notarized contracts/deeds of sale. If in case you haven't, you may send me a private message with all the details (name of buyer, unit # and name of your agent) and I will gladly forward it then to my colleagues.
If I may provide updates: Serendra, as it is divided into 2 districts, has now changed names. District 1 Serendra has been named One Serendra and District II is now called Two Serendra. Also, for The Promenade (European-inspired commercial/retail area), it is now called the Piazza. Since each district has its own sections, we are about to launch the newest phases Section D for each district.
If I may answer some questions regarding Serendra,
1. The 8th floor of Serendra Section A (technically the 7th) is higher than the Market!Market! roof, thereby giving its residents a c5 skyline view for One Serendra with partial Ortigas BCD skyline and partial views of Laguna de bay for Two Serendra. Sections B & C of each district facing Market! Market have higher floors (15-17floors approx).
2. Two Serendra Sections B&C (technically Phase 2) is almost the u/c opposite fitness first at the Fort Strip. Though these 2 are technically blocks away from each other, the 11th ave side of Serendra will face exactly the opposite of yet another new retail development, to cater the mid to high end markets, Rodeo-inspired.
3. All phases (as discussed by our project heads) for One Serendra will have split-type aircons, while all phases for Two Serendra will have window-type aircons. We still haven't heard of any change in current plans as of yet.
4. The issue of the sando and chinelas crowd (specifically the below D browsers/consumers) is already being addressed. Since we can't also discriminate, there are special means that our institution for Ayala property management, APMC, are employing through our Ayala Security Force. We have received many complaints, yes, but the good news is that we're doing something about it already. The interests of our would-be Serendra unit owners are also taken into account.
5. The International Esplanade is the area which leads to The Piazza, which is the round-shaped retail area. It was first thought of as European-inspired, but now it is now the culture fusion type (European, Asian, Mediterranean, Scandinavian, etc.).
6. The Fort Boni/BGC Traffic, thanks to top US consultants that we have, is improved. Hence, we have to be stricter since this area is now a widely-known shortcut route. If you are familiar po with the strict traffic managements systems they have in Subic, that's also the plan that they have in BGC. Public transportation, like the Fort Bus, is now in place, and jeeps are strictly regulated. Tricycles are strictly prohibited inside FBGC. Subways/underground trains are still in the planning mills because we would eventually have to link this to the existing MRT, MRT2, and further studies to be conducted yet since our water and LPG pipelines are also underground.
7. The Master Deed of Restrictions for Serendra (annexed in the Contract to Sell and Deed of Absolute Sale) prohibits, among others, clotheslines hanging visibly. This would ruin the property's value appreciation and overall aesthetic value. Since APMC would handle all the property management concerns even before a Condo corporation is formed, we would definitelt prohibit that. All units of both One Serendra and Two Serendra have provisions for laundry areas. We also have a consignee laundry shop in place.
Hoping some of these bits helped. Also hoping to see you in the partial public opening of The Piazza!
LhexiMont April 18th, 2006, 06:19 AM Ilang percent ba ang part ng Taguig City sa Bonifacio Global City ?
Edmundtanso April 18th, 2006, 06:22 AM nice rendring.....i hope to see high rise buildings and not just low rise in the inner core on BGC...
thomasian April 18th, 2006, 06:56 AM ...a larger extraction from the ALI presentation
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/BGC_New-Masterplan.jpg
renell April 18th, 2006, 09:15 AM nice rendring.....i hope to see high rise buildings and not just low rise in the inner core on BGC...
me too. right now the tallest is at its very edges, the Pacific Plaza twins at 179m. actually the main skyline in BGC at the moment is the side facing the golf club.
pau_p1 April 18th, 2006, 10:08 AM yeah.. and I think that skyline will remain for years to come until a taller structure stands in the inner core area.... or else Pacific Plaza, Bellagios, and Icon might be blocking their view...
pau_p1 April 18th, 2006, 10:18 AM do any of the guys know when FBGC plans to construct the roads on that northern part of the city where the avenue leads to the Kalayaan gate? I see in the Bonifacio Global City website that they are selling those lots there already, yet that area is still undeveloped...
thomasian April 18th, 2006, 01:08 PM do any of the guys know when FBGC plans to construct the roads on that northern part of the city where the avenue leads to the Kalayaan gate? I see in the Bonifacio Global City website that they are selling those lots there already, yet that area is still undeveloped...
Could it be possible that they're leaving the development (including the roads) of the whole northern area to the lot buyers?
3cr April 18th, 2006, 10:50 PM Just reposting this interesting FBGC tidbit from Gibson (Thanks btw). Happy reading... :)
I was talking to Jun Bisnar Head of commercial operations of FBDC, and he used this terminology..."Flight to quality", which I really liked.
That is the guidelines that they use in making decisions for BGC. Now that the market is getting stonger...the more people appreciate quality in projects.
We were discussing how there are more and more nuisance players that are coming up, now that the economy is becoming better, there are companies who have no capability or track record in building, but can still market due to the bullish nature of people.
We both agreed that, this time however, clients are becoming more and more careful in purchases as it is becoming more "need" based rather than "speculation" based. People who tend to live in their units look at quality more, rather than people who are buying for speculation. Because of this combination of a bullish market, and the "need" based reason for buying, that there is a good opportunity for "Flight to Quality" based developments, where quality and value for money is becoming the priority.
People demand the best quality for the price they are paying. This does not necessarily mean that people will buy the cheapest, they will buy the one with the best quality and price combination.
The new re-developed FBGC will be operational before the year ends, according to Jun.
ryanr April 19th, 2006, 12:09 AM do any of the guys know when FBGC plans to construct the roads on that northern part of the city where the avenue leads to the Kalayaan gate? I see in the Bonifacio Global City website that they are selling those lots there already, yet that area is still undeveloped...
That area is not Ayala owned right? I recall reading that part of the northern section of BGC will be an IT area.
pau_p1 April 19th, 2006, 02:34 AM I remember reading in earlier posts that those lots are targeted by the Gokongweis, Sys, and other big names...
bustero April 19th, 2006, 11:37 AM The northern part is owned by metrobank (around 10 hectares I think) and BCDA (also around 10 hectares I think). They will make their own roads. FBDC on the other hand also has more roads to make, these are the ones near the American Cemetary.
Raktak April 19th, 2006, 03:09 PM http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/04/09/1554878.htm
PSE revives bid to create one trading floor
(Manila Standard Via Thomson Dialog NewsEdge)The Philippine Stock Exchange plans to unify trading operations by housing the Ayala and Tektite trading floors under one roof.
Reelected PSE president and chief executive officer Francis Lim said during the PSE's annual stockholders' meeting Saturday that the board was studying the possibility of putting up a single trading floor in a property inside the Bonifacio Global City in Taguig City.
"We are the product of the marriage between the Manila and Makati stock exchanges. But we still live in two different households. Your management wants this changed," Lim said in a report to PSE shareholders.
Lim said the property in Bonifacio Global City, which was donated by Fort Bonifacio Development Corp., will likely be headquarters of the exchange.
"We will vigorously study a plan to house ourselves under one roof, just one exchange with just one headquarters. We want this renewal of vows, this second wedding, solemnized sooner than later," Lim said.
PSE in 2002 entered into an agreement with FBDC to transfer of the exchange's operations in the Bonifacio Global City.
FBDC under the agreement transferred a 2,182 square meter lot valued at over P182 million to a corporate vehicle, whose shares will gradually be donated to the PSE over a seven-year period.
PSE has the option to construct the building on the lot with a third party developer if FBDC declines to build it within the period.
Lim said the exchange could start construction by January 2008.
Lim said the Ayala trading floor could be transferred to Tektite in Ortigas or vice versa in the interim period.
The single trading floor is one of the many plans that the new PSE board of directors want to address this year.
The exchange plans to invest $4 million to acquire a new trading system to replace its 15-year-old facility. The acquisition will further minimize trading glitches and enable the exchange to launch new products and services. Jenniffer B. Austria
thomasian April 19th, 2006, 04:16 PM So it's just for the PSE HQ alone? No more Capital Place? :cry:
Francis20 April 19th, 2006, 04:27 PM pau, are you referring to the Bonifacio triangle? i've seen it fenced last year. i just wonder if it will be FBGC who will develop the area or would it be the buyers.
as for the blocked views...it'd be better to have the offices at the middle and residentials at the edges. office workers do not need awesome views or fantastic backdrops anyway, while these are big selling points for residentials. then we can say that those those structures positioned at the Manila Golf side will enjoy the makati views forever. no potential structures to block their views. unless Forbes or Dasma residents decide to build towers at their neighborhood.
Francis20 April 19th, 2006, 04:51 PM So it's just for the PSE HQ alone? No more Capital Place? :cry:
aron...don't lose heart. the article does not explicitly say so.
note that both locations are hirises - Tektite and ATO.
The reason? Stock Exchange entices companies to have their offices where the stock exchange is. Maybe for some reasons - prestige or something else. So there's still a good chance that Capital Place will materialize. It already has a lot alloted for the project and is already fenced. So let's be optimistic on this. :)
thomasian April 19th, 2006, 05:18 PM You mean Capital Place is still very much in-place even with the release of a revised masterplan?
Francis20 April 19th, 2006, 05:52 PM i guess so. it already has its own lot.
ryanr April 19th, 2006, 08:42 PM ^ And i dunno about now, but its a fenced off lot;) (the blue barrier)
Yeah, the article doesnt say anything about Capital Place being scrapped, so there's a good chance of it getting built in the future. If you look at the old masterplan visual in the first page of this thread, you can see that the trading floor is a seperate building from Capital Place. I think they want a Wall Street type trading floor building and then the offices are nearby in Capital Place.
Good news on that article btw...at least we know that they are still keen in moving the stock exchange to BGC.
bagel April 19th, 2006, 09:07 PM I don't know.... If I were a Zobel de Ayala I would fight to keep the stock exchange on the avenue with my name on it. And I would keep my avenue as the premier business address in the country...
ryanr April 19th, 2006, 09:10 PM ^ maybe he isnt that self-centered?:D
3cr April 19th, 2006, 11:08 PM BGC MASTERPLAN as compiled by: boybaha (top) and tootsjap (bottom)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7724/fbgc0ul.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f7/bkatoots/fbgcoldnew.jpg
I am very positive on their changes. Many of the clients I talked to that saw the changes had a very positive response to it.
A fact about the change is that there are now more roads than lots before, which in the future will help improve the traffic flow. (Too bad for us, Ayala is increasing lot prices to offset the lesser saleable areas...but I guess this is a good investment for the future well-being and development of the area)
The retail centers are also very much needed in the area right now. Even on the weekdays, "The Fort" area is already getting filled up and parking is becoming much harder than before.
Thanks Gibson. So Ayala is increasing prices again on choice lots which is a good indicator that they are bullish on the prospect of a continued and sustained development in FBGC which is welcome news indeed for early investors (those who invested after the Asian Crisis) there. Just wondering from your FBGC connections as well as people "in the know" whom you've interacted, has there been any indication what road/ave in FBGC is being groomed as the so called "Ayala Ave." equivalent for the main CBD thoroughfare in FBGC? I was suspecting it may either be McKinley Parkway or Fifth Avenue (or both?) but this is only my opinion; hence my inquiry. Curious lang naman as to which way/direction (North to South) or (East to West) Ayala may be planning when developing FBGC's (office bldg side of the) CBD. Perhaps the proposed future site of the unified Philippine Stock Exchange might be an early indication of how it is going to be. :)
ryanr April 19th, 2006, 11:21 PM Retail is east/west (as evident in the new masterplan)...while the business/financial towers will be north/south? because its longer and the north gate area is mixed use, so expect offices there too:)
macky April 19th, 2006, 11:46 PM I like this now. Like francis said, big financial companies will soon move to BGC. It will have a positive domino effect as it will increased demands for retail and residential space.
renell April 21st, 2006, 03:49 AM The problem would be if that since BGC has a lot of space, it won't be anything as tall as the Ayala Tower One. Stock exchanges really don't take up a lot of height, of course it can be an added bonus but.. I dunno
3cr April 21st, 2006, 04:16 AM Just wondering has there been any indication what road/ave in FBGC is being groomed as the so called "Ayala Ave." equivalent for the main CBD thoroughfare in FBGC? I was suspecting it may either be McKinley Parkway (due proximity to the transport hub) or Fifth Avenue (or both?) but this is only my opinion; hence my inquiry. Curious lang naman as to which way/direction (North to South) or (East to West) Ayala may be planning when developing FBGC's (office bldg side of the) CBD. Perhaps the proposed future site of the unified Philippine Stock Exchange might be an early indication of how it is going to be. :) Look at the areas where the FAR classification is 12 and that should be it. Used to be closer to the center but I don't know how they are reclassifying it now. Someone can go to the FBDC office, too lazy to do so sorry. :) Retail is east/west (as evident in the new masterplan)...while the business/financial towers will be north/south? because its longer and the north gate area is mixed use, so expect offices there too:) Thanks Bustero and Grey. Curious lang kasi ako since I have not seen any road in FBGC, including McKinley Parkway and Fifth Avenue, that is currently wide enough to really handle the kind of traffic a true CBD is expected to have. Just thought that McKinley Parkway and Fifth Ave. are quite feasible candidates since both are the longest stretch of roads in FBGC at the moment and currently still have the space around them available to widen these roads as necessary. I'm sure Ayala has made the necessary traffic studies/plans to possibly prevent/avoid a Makati and Ortigas like traffic from happening in FBGC as it develops into the kind of metropolis its destined to be. :runaway:
bustero April 21st, 2006, 06:16 AM ^^Well the original plan and flow accomodated highest density at the center with the expanded rotunda ( much larger than a normal one) as the main center and the north south axis in the middle having the important buidlings like the stock exchange . Since the north south axis has been cut off and turned to an east west axis, remains to be seen how it will develop, can say though that the northern part has now been relagated to lesser role in this plan. I wouldn't expect much high rises here.
3cr April 21st, 2006, 08:12 AM Yes I agree Ayala totally changed the traffic flow by removing the rotunda and replacing it with an East/West oriented linear park, though it will be such a shame if the northern tip is indeed relegated to a lesser role because the Kalayaan flyover was an expensive undertaking and should be used/utilized better in the over all scheme of things. That's why I'm hoping for a North/South orientaion naman for the CBD possibly running up Fifth Avenue to connect to the north side to take advantage of the Kalayaan entrance into FBGC. On the south end naman Fifth Avenue will be so close and easily accessible to McKinley Parkway which will house the transport hub and Taguig Convention Center. Another good thing is Fifth Avenue already has intrinsict value interms of int'l name recognition (Saks/5th Ave. NY) which is good for the CBD. Guess we'll just have to see how they address this. :)
pau_p1 April 21st, 2006, 10:08 AM regarding the Kalayaan Bridge.. when this is built, will this connect to Shaw Blvd?
asraz April 21st, 2006, 10:34 AM http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/04/09/1554878.htm
PSE revives bid to create one trading floor
(Manila Standard Via Thomson Dialog NewsEdge)The Philippine Stock Exchange plans to unify trading operations by housing the Ayala and Tektite trading floors under one roof.
Reelected PSE president and chief executive officer Francis Lim said during the PSE's annual stockholders' meeting Saturday that the board was studying the possibility of putting up a single trading floor in a property inside the Bonifacio Global City in Taguig City.
From this News Article from Inquirer, it looks like FBGC will be home not only for the PSE but for the SEC and DTI as well...
Taguig entices SEC, DTI
Posted: 7:28 PM | Apr. 16, 2006
Victor Agustin
Inquirer
Published on Page B3 of the April 17, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer
THE FORWARD-LOOKING MAYOR OF Taguig, Freddie Tinga, has all but convinced the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Department of Trade and Industry to relocate and form the nucleus of a government financial center in The Fort.
According to the grapevine, Tinga is looking at allowing up to 10 hectares of city land for usufruct use of the financial agencies, provided the Department of Finance, which currently shares space with the Bangko Sentral in the congested district of Malate, is also brought on board.
There is a powerful incentive for Trade and Industry Secretary Peter Favila to favor the Taguig transfer.
The Department of Trade and Industry currently pays about P230 million a year in lease payments for the five low-rise buildings it occupies on Buendia.
The SEC has been scouting for a new, bigger office to replace its structurally challenged building near the corner of Edsa and Ortigas.
The SEC would have chosen a squatter-infested area in Quezon City near the Bangko Sentral Mint as its future site had not Taguig gotten wind of the plan.
A meeting between Tinga and SEC Commissioner Jesus Martinez, the SEC official in charge of the relocation plan, was hastily arranged, with SEC Chair Fe Barin later on agreeing that The Fort would be more accessible to investors and the market than the Quezon City site is.
What needs to be done now is to commission an architectural and engineering study to align the future site--an undeveloped tract adjoining the McKinley Hills village after the Essensa condo--with The Fort's master plan.
And that, according to the grapevine, is where the rubber meets the road. Taguig does not yet know from whose pockets it would raise the money, not only for the master plan but for the pre-development expenses, as well.
bustero April 21st, 2006, 11:52 AM Yes I agree Ayala totally changed the traffic flow by removing the rotunda and replacing it with an East/West oriented linear park, though it will be such a shame if the northern tip is indeed relegated to a lesser role because the Kalayaan flyover was an expensive undertaking and should be used/utilized better in the over all scheme of things. That's why I'm hoping for a North/South orientaion naman for the CBD possibly running up Fifth Avenue to connect to the north side to take advantage of the Kalayaan entrance into FBGC. On the south end naman Fifth Avenue will be so close and easily accessible to McKinley Parkway which will house the transport hub and Taguig Convention Center. Another good thing is Fifth Avenue already has intrinsict value interms of int'l name recognition (Saks/5th Ave. NY) which is good for the CBD. Well guess we'll just have to see how they adress this. :)
Your guess is as as good as mine! But toward the northern end 5th Ave peters out after price smart, the curve of the original circle seems to be a green arc as per the drawing so let's see. Still need to determine if this is the final layout, baka like in makati they'll convert parts of the parks into buildings, like Ugarte field and the parking lots at the back of the buildings along Ayala in salcedo and Legaspi. I'll spend a little time tom just checking things out.
ryanr April 21st, 2006, 07:19 PM ^Thanks, bustero:)
@ 3cr - I agree with you. Lets just see what the developer in the north arm of BGC decides to do in response to Ayala's new masterplan.
topnotch97 April 22nd, 2006, 01:03 AM nasan na po yung ibang BGC threads, di ko na makita yung IV atsaka previous ones.
sorry po, n00b po ako!
ryanr April 22nd, 2006, 01:10 AM ^ Oh sorry...the links to the other threads werent posted in the first page.
Here they are:
Bonifacio Global City I (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=187505) Bonifacio Global City II (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=262346) Bonifacio Global City III (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=261991) Bonifacio Global City IV (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=313428)
3cr April 22nd, 2006, 05:39 AM Your guess is as as good as mine! But toward the northern end 5th Ave peters out after price smart, the curve of the original circle seems to be a green arc as per the drawing so let's see. Still need to determine if this is the final layout, baka like in makati they'll convert parts of the parks into buildings, like Ugarte field and the parking lots at the back of the buildings along Ayala in salcedo and Legaspi. I'll spend a little time tom just checking things out.
Uy Thanks Bustero though we hope we did not put pressure on you kasi I know you said in an earlier post na tinatamad ka to check it out. You don't have to go out of your way ha, kung mapadaan ka lang naman. Salamat ulit! :)
KiBeN April 22nd, 2006, 07:31 AM some pics from antipolo, it's very far, so sorry for the blurry pic, but when you are there, you could see almost Muntinlupa scrapers (filinvest city)
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2497/roadtrip10458ae.jpg
hahaha, yun lang eh, di na kaya i-zoom :)
macky April 22nd, 2006, 06:43 PM Looks like Kensington and Fairways will be done soon..... followed by Bellagio 1.
_zner_ April 23rd, 2006, 08:25 AM cool shot kiben... :D
bustero April 24th, 2006, 04:54 AM From today's cocktales,
Heard through the grapevine
FORT Bonifacio Development Corp. plans to build a new road and link it with the Pasay Road end in Dasmarińas Village to relieve the growing bottleneck at McKinley Road.
The millionaire residents of Dasma are expected to oppose the road link, while the Ayalas are said to be in favor of the plan, now that they control The Fort as well.
How they plan to accomplish this I have no idea, probably another wild tsismis by Cocktales. Must say it's a good idea though. Perhaps tunnel would make sense, but it would probably make better sense to tunnel under Mckinley to Ayala.
by the way, was just driving around the fort yestereday, and the linear pedestrian green with retail outlets look halfdone,you can see the structures already. Someone with a better camera take pix.
3cr April 25th, 2006, 12:13 AM Newest arena for developers is Bonifacio Global City
By Tessa R. Salazar
Inquirer
IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS, the selling price of commercial land of Bonifacio Global City has gone up from just P50,000 per square meter in 2004 to P132,000 today. Compare this to prime lands in the Makati CBD, estimated to have posted a 15 percent year-on-year increase in 2005, to an average of P216,632 per sq m, as reported in the property indicator of Colliers International Philippines in January 2006.
In two years, new concepts in development have emerged in Bonifacio Global City, and so have large-scale residential developments with quality and design comparable to the condos in Makati CBD and the Rockwell. A total of 83 completed, ongoing and about-to-be-constructed buildings can now be found in Bonifacio Global City.
Jun V. Bisnar, head for commercial operations of Fort Bonifacio Development Corp., said that based on industry estimates last year, 40 percent of the total new condominium supply projects in Metro Manila is being developed in the Bonifacio Global City. FBDC is the principal developer of Bonifacio Global City. Bisnar added that the FBDC is spending more than P2 billion for the redevelopment of the Bonifacio Global City's master plan of the City Center and other projects.
Battleground for developers
A significant update in the real estate scenario is Bonifacio Global City becoming the burgeoning battleground for developers such as Robinsons, Century Properties, G&W, Philtown Properties (an RFM Subsidiary), Megaworld Corp. and Ayala Land Inc. (ALI).
Insofar as ALI is concerned, its projects have no equal in terms of magnitude.
ALI developments include Market! Market!, a 10-hectare retail complex; Serendra, the biggest residential complex at 12 hectares boasting of 50 percent open space; and ALI's office building projects with the FBDC.
Of the 240 hectares comprising Bonifacio Global City, 137 hectares are owned and developed by FBDC. FBDC is 55 percent controlled by Bonifacio Land Corp. BLC is majority owned by Ayala Land Inc. and Evergreen Holdings Inc.
Ninety-three hectares belong to the Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA), while the remaining 10 hectares are controlled by Metrobank.
Showdown
But for Megaworld, it's in the thick of a showdown with ALI.
Megaworld's projects include McKinley Hill, a 50-hectare master-planned community located in Fort Bonifacio but is not within the main Bonifacio Global City development.
ERA Philippines country president and CEO Eric Soriano said the heavyweight developers are ALI and Megaworld as their strategic focus is on building mixed-use developments much like clustered city centers in one burgeoning CBD.
Noli Hernandez, Megaworld vice president for marketing, stressed that McKinley Hill in Fort Bonifacio which covers 50 hectares is a self-contained master-planned community with a garden setting.
These include single-detached luxury homes, townhouses, four-story residential garden villas, high-rise condominiums, schools and universities, campus-type office buildings, shopping centers, a public museum and library, a community center and sports club.
Hernandez said Megaworld's five-hectare Forbes Town Center development in Global City sits on "very prime property" that covers almost half a kilometer of golf course views.
The Forbes Town Road will house more than a hundred high-end shops, restaurants and coffee shops lining the road.
Existing buildings
Existing residential buildings at the Bonifacio Global City include Bonifacio Ridge, One McKinley Place, Regent Parkway, Penhurst Parkplace, Pacific Plaza, and Essensa while the ongoing residential projects include Kensington Place, Fairways Tower, South of Market, Forbestown, Fifth Avenue Place, and Serendra.
Existing office buildings are Bonifacio Technology Center, Net One, Net Square, and the Fort 26th St. The Fort Square has upscale fine-dining restaurants while The Car Plaza has Mercedes-Benz/CATS' showroom, Ford, Mancor service center and other autoshops. There are other commercial buildings and six upscale and international schools.
The St. Lukes Medical Center, which started construction last year, will house 600 beds and 366 doctors' offices.
BGC lies on the Guadalupe Plateau that has a competent and solid bedrock ideal for urban development and building construction.
Elevated in comparison to other areas in Metro Manila, its highest point is at 40 meters above sea level.
Lessons learned from CBDs
Bisnar said lessons in traffic management, pedestrians, green spaces and clean air learned from years of the Makati CBD experience are now being applied in BGC.
The mushrooming developments in BGC will complement the traditional CBDs that are experiencing decreasing office vacancy rates, from double digits a few years back down to just seven percent at present.
The year 2006 sees businesses bracing for an increase in rental rates of 15 to 20 percent because of the increased demand for office space.
This trend would most likely be feeding the frenzy at BGC as well.
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topnotch97 April 25th, 2006, 04:01 AM ^ Oh sorry...the links to the other threads werent posted in the first page.
Here they are:
Bonifacio Global City I (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=187505) Bonifacio Global City II (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=262346) Bonifacio Global City III (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=261991) Bonifacio Global City IV (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=313428)
thank you po. now i can catch up from thread I
engot engot kasi ako... :bash:
c0kelitr0 April 25th, 2006, 04:18 AM Existing office buildings are Bonifacio Technology Center, Net One, Net Square, and the Fort 26th St.
this is erroneous...they haven't even dug up the lot of fort 26th st yet :sleepy:
bustero April 25th, 2006, 04:30 AM well you know our press, lots of factual errors
Interesting to know what exactly that 2billion is that they are spending on hehe
3cr April 25th, 2006, 12:30 PM Just reposting this article posted by Jamaicus. I can't believe how much projects Megaworld is planning on doing. That's alot of money they're investing though I just hope they don't spread themselves too thin resulting in lesser quality projects. I bolded the part that talks about their projects in FBGC.
Megaworld to spend P47B over 10 years for new projects
By Zinnia B. Dela Peńa
The Philippine Star 04/25/2006
Upscale property developer Megaworld Corp. is setting aside P47 billion over a 10-year period for the development of new residential projects, office buildings for business process outsourcing (BPO) firms, and retail outlets.
Megaworld chairman Andrew Tan said P20 billion of the programmed capital budget will be channelled to the construction of office buildings catering to the needs of call center companies or BPO firms and acquisition of additional properties to expand rental income.
To take advantage of the continued robust growth of the call center business, Tan said the company has set aside 80 percent of the proceeds from the international and local offering of shares for the construction of office space for BPO companies. Megaworld raised P5.41 billion from the sale of shares to the public.
Tan said Megaworld intends to build around 400,000 square meters of BPO-ready office space over the next five years in Eastwood City, Mckinley Hill and Newport City.
For this year, Megaworld is building two call center buildings. Once completed, these structures would raise the company’s BPO leasable space to 105,000 square meters.
Among the big-ticket township or residential projects of the company include the 50-hectare McKinley Hill in Bonifacio Global City, the 25-hectare Newport City near the Villamor golf course in Pasay City, and Manhattan Garden City in Araneta Center, Cubao. These projects combined require total investments of $787 million (roughly P40.14 billion).
Funding for the projects will come from pre-selling activities and proceeds from its recently-concluded offering, said Megaworld senior vice-president Kingson Sian. "With over 50 institutional investors covered in the global management road show, Megaworld was successful in attracting mostly high-quality long-term investors with particular strong interest from European investors," he said.
Mckinley Hill will comprise a residential subdivision, low-rise condominiums and a commercial center. The project is a 50-50 joint venture with the Alliance Global Group Inc. Another project is the P15-billion Forbes Town Center, a joint development with the Bonifacio West Development Corp.
On the other hand, Newport City, a joint development with the Bases Conversion Development Authority, is expected to generate P150 million in recurring income a year from an airport hotel and retail and commercial operations. Marketing of the residential section of Newport City is slated to kick off by the third quarter of this year.
Other projects slated for completion this year up to 2008 are The Eastwood Excelsior (2005), One Orchard Road, The Grand Eastwood Palazzo and the Eastwood Parkview. The Eastwood Excelsior is a twin-tower residential condominium building while Parkview is a Miami-style twin tower residential-cum-mall development.
Apart from property development, Megaworld is also into hotel operations through Prestige Hotels & Resorts Inc., a subsidiary which operates the Richmonde Hotel in the Ortigas Center.
http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200604250704.htm
P15B Forbes Town Center
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http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/geebeng/ForbesHeightsRetail.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/aaron_charles_ofngol/Bellagio_Retail.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/geebeng/belsiteplan.jpg
hi neighbors! you are probably referring to this. 100% tuloy yan from Parklane to Bellagio 1 mahaba yan. My agent told me, kumpleto na raw yan sa tennant. :)
renell April 25th, 2006, 04:26 PM Megaworld is the new Cityland, spreading like wildfire ;) Except Megaworld has more capital and more ambition, but not much architectural ambition as Cityland... :bash:
ryanr April 25th, 2006, 07:47 PM I disagree, Megaworld is in a whole different market to Cityland. They have much better designs as of late (Bellagio, Parkview, etc) and their targer market is the middle class. Cityland is selling well because of their simplistic affordable units competing with the likes of Ayala's Avida subsidiary. Cityland condos continue to mushroom around the metro.
renell April 26th, 2006, 03:48 AM That's two of the tens of buildings they have started. You might be right in the target class, I don't produce much research into that, but as far as I know Bellagio and Parkview are peanut M&Ms in a plain bowl (or vice versa, depending on your preference)
bagel April 26th, 2006, 04:00 AM I want to see our mods get into fistycuffs. :colgate:
Anyway, Megaworld's Eastwood project is very ambitious. But I think that while it is ambitious, there seems to be too much maximization of space in this design. It is upscale, I suppose, but it seems like they crammed as much as they could in such a small plot of land. Let's hope that McKinley Hill won't be as crammed.
Gibson@G&W April 26th, 2006, 07:03 AM Could it be that Megaworld has different target markets for different projects? Just a thought...
ryanr April 26th, 2006, 07:04 AM lol...i can still read that renell:D
bustero April 26th, 2006, 08:34 AM From cocktales today.
Too bad it's a good plan but wont' work out, This si where you see the interests of Ayala, FBDC, and BCDA diverge.
Ayala shoots down BCDA plan
A PLAN by the government's Bases Conversion Development Authority to decongest McKinley Road by opening up the Pasay Road end of Dasmarińas Village and linking it with The Fort has been shot down by the Ayalas.
Ayala Land sent a statement to say that neither their company nor their affiliate, Fort Bonifacio Development Corp., "nor any of its officers," is behind such initiative.
The statement, a reaction to a Monday item in this column, also branded as "incorrect" a claim that the Ayalas, in reference to the Zobel de Ayala family, were said to be supportive of the plan.
The planned road, which is outside of the Ayala-controlled district in The Fort, is part of the BCDA master plan for the 440-hectare former military base developed in the 1990s under then chair Rogelio Singson.
The proposed road link would benefit the Dasmarińas homeowners who would escape the gridlock on McKinley Road by providing them with an alternative route to The Fort, said BCDA executive vice president Isaac Puno III.
The proposed road link would be a limited-access road for Dasma residents, Puno said, adding that the funding for the project had already been allocated by the Department of Public Works and Highways.
According to the grapevine, the Philippine Army brass is supportive of the plan since the planned road would also fork off toward Pasong Tamo and provide an alternative route for the Army housing complex being developed by the Consunjis of DMCI.
As well, Taguig Mayor Freddie Tinga is said to be in favor of the new road since it would also connect with Lawton Parkway and Commando Link Road, and provide an alternative access route to the proposed SEC and DTI office complex.
In explaining their opposition to the planned road link, Ayala Land said: "Our efforts are directed toward ensuring that the seven entrances to the FBDC properties in our current plan are as well-designed and efficiently operated as possible."
thomasian April 26th, 2006, 03:12 PM lol...i can still read that renell:D
Me too. :lol:
I disagree, Megaworld is in a whole different market to Cityland. They have much better designs as of late (Bellagio, Parkview, etc) and their targer market is the middle class. Cityland is selling well because of their simplistic affordable units competing with the likes of Ayala's Avida subsidiary. Cityland condos continue to mushroom around the metro.
It's not right to compare Megaworld to Cityland cause they're targeting different market segments. Maybe it's better if your compare Megaworld's subsidiary - Empire East, to Cityland, they're more of the same league. :nocrook:
thomasian May 1st, 2006, 01:27 PM 04.17.06
"Ang Supremo" - back view, with Fairways, Net One, One McKinley, and Pacific Plaza
(text and details from Bonifacio Art Foundation website)
BY BEN-HUR VILLANUEVA. This brass monument depicts Andres Bonifacio in a powerful stance holding a torn certificate. A momentous event in Philippine history marking the beginning of Filipinos' aspiration for a better life. The second figure is Lakambini, the wife of Bonifacio, holding a flag. The third figure is a Katipunero and Kasapi holding a bamboo spear.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/BGC_04-17-06_4.jpg
kinda bumpy ride: :)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/BGC_04-17-06_3.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/BGC_04-17-06.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/BGC_04-17-06_2.jpg
KiBeN May 1st, 2006, 03:25 PM wow! ganda ng pics! what's that uc sa likod ng forbes town...? and that one beside netsquare?
mhe-ann May 2nd, 2006, 11:32 AM I like the 2nd pic. :D hehe. nice aaron.
thomasian May 2nd, 2006, 11:55 AM ^^ hehe, kaya nga ba love ko si ate Mhe-ann eh. :colgate:
renell May 2nd, 2006, 12:30 PM lol...i can still read that renell:D
Lol might as well tell everyone else what I said then? ;) I was just repeating stuff basically.
rockwell baller May 4th, 2006, 07:30 AM the monument of andres is very good but they should try making monuments gold-plated para mas catchy! tama lang yun sa isang ambitious/world-class city tulad ng BGC!
jbkayaker12 May 4th, 2006, 10:41 AM the monument of andres is very good but they should try making monuments gold-plated para mas catchy! tama lang yun sa isang ambitious/world-class city tulad ng BGC!
Not gold plated, tacky! Ok kung bronze sculptures!
Lightspeed May 6th, 2006, 12:32 PM Ayala will be launching the City Center of Fort Bonifacio Global City in a few weeks. Abangan!
Francis20 May 6th, 2006, 02:07 PM hmmm...ano kaya yun? mukhang interesting yan ah.
OtAkAw May 6th, 2006, 02:21 PM Go Ayala! I hope they come up with BIG ideas again!!! If I was them, I'll turn FBGC into a techno-European inspired place, think of Hotel Arts Barcelona, Guggenheim Bilbao, St Mary Axe London, Calatrava designs. I'm sure FBGC would be LOVELY!
LhexiMont May 6th, 2006, 02:47 PM Hindi i-build ng Ayalas ang City Center sa Makati CBD ? Filinvest Alabang had a similar City Center concept incorporated in their masterplan , in fact it is way ahead with the existing Festival Supermall and future developments like convention center / hotels /museum/ high rise- offices in the drawing board for the city center concept .
Ito bang City Center ng BGC na ila-launch ng Ayala ay yung may Taguig convention center to be constructed near Market!Market! ? or different pa ?
tyronne May 6th, 2006, 08:11 PM Ayala will be launching the City Center of Fort Bonifacio Global City in a few weeks. Abangan!
nakaka-excite naman ito. baka tama si lhexi. baka yung taguig convention center ito...:dunno:
3cr May 6th, 2006, 09:39 PM Bustero,
Guess we'll finally find out which way Ayala plans to develop FBGC's CBD. Yippee! :) Your guess is as as good as mine! But toward the northern end 5th Ave peters out after price smart, the curve of the original circle seems to be a green arc as per the drawing so let's see. Still need to determine if this is the final layout, baka like in makati they'll convert parts of the parks into buildings, like Ugarte field and the parking lots at the back of the buildings along Ayala in salcedo and Legaspi. I'll spend a little time tom just checking things out.
LhexiMont,
Malamang that might be it kung saan proposed itatayo yung Taguig Convention Center, Coliseum, Amphitheater, and central transpo hub (including a subway/railway system). Lilipat din daw yung unified Philippine Stock Exchange in FBGC though I don't know where exactly their location will be in FBGC. This is indeed very exciting since the commercial areas in FBGC have been addressed already with MarketMarket, Piazza, Ayala Linear Park Commercial Area, Forbestown Commercial Area, and even an SM mall to boot so it's high time that Ayala address their plans for the business center naman ngayon. Let's also not forget that there are still so much available land to build in McKinley Hill in the South-end as well as duon sa North by the Kalayaan flyover though I'm not sure if Ayala has developing rights on these land. Guess we'll find out soon! :)
Hindi i-build ng Ayalas ang City Center sa Makati CBD ? Filinvest Alabang had a similar City Center concept incorporated in their masterplan , in fact it is way ahead with the existing Festival Supermall and future developments like convention center / hotels /museum/ high rise- offices in the drawing board for the city center concept .
Ito bang City Center ng BGC na ila-launch ng Ayala ay yung may Taguig convention center to be constructed near Market!Market! ? or different pa ?
3cr May 7th, 2006, 04:37 AM By MARICEL E. ESTAVILLO, Reporter
New office supply insufficient for growing BPO industry needs
At least 12 new large office buildings in Metro Manila are due for completion next year, equivalent to an all-time high of 210,000 to 240,000 square meters of additional office supply.
But even this is not enough to soften the expected increase in monthly rental rates nor sufficiently address the ever-growing demand for office space of the business process outsourcing (BPO) industry for next year, according to property consultants polled by BusinessWorld.
"There has been very little new construction in core areas in Manila between 2002 and 2006. Once new supply starts to come on stream next year, occupiers will have some attractive options to choose from. Developers who proceed now will be well-positioned to benefit," said Alan J.M. Dalgleish, managing director of Colliers International Phils., Inc.
"A few large office buildings are expected [for next year] -- delays are likely -- but will not relieve price hike in Makati and Ortigas central business districts," said David T. Leechiu, president and general manager of Leechiu & Associates, Inc, citing the firm’s latest research.
"The call center business [accounting for 80% of BPOs] is here to stay and continued growth is expected. Our current market is the US and we already have phenomenal growth. What happens [now] is centers from Europe, Australia, New Zealand and other locations start to move [their non-core business functions overseas]," said Ryan L. Isip, associate director of CB Richard Ellis Phils., Inc.
Most of the buildings expected to be completed next year will be located outside the Makati Central Business District (CBD), which now holds some 48 of the 114 call centers the country has to date.
In fact, Leechiu & Associates said about 14% of the overall estimated office supply for next year -- up from 9% in 2005 -- will be spread out among emerging business districts outside Makati and Ortigas CBDs, which will have 62% and 24% of office supply, respectively.
Last year, Makati and Ortigas CBDs respectively held 65% and 26% of the total office supply.
Furthermore, most of the new buildings for next year are either "build-to-suit" -- custom-built for a tenant -- or already sold in agreement to companies even at the start of construction.
A few of the planned buildings for next year have not been announced in public by their respective developers, although talks with their prospective locators and partners have been progressing. "Construction has not yet commenced on some of these, so it likely that for some, actual completion may slip to 2008," Mr. Dalgleish said.
New office building projects with completion target of 2007 are spread out among Bay City in Pasay City, Fort Bonifacio in Taguig City, Mandaluyong City, Quezon City and Alabang.
There is the One E-comCenter in Bay City of SM Investments, a 10-storey building with total floor space of 94,000 sq.m.
In Fort Bonifacio, there are the 16,000-sq.m. Fourth 26th Street, the 23,000-sq.m. McKinley Hill Tower, the 32,000-sq.m. Net Cube Center and the 15,000-sq.m. HSBC Manila Back Office -- a build-to-suit facility to serve entirely the requirements of HSBC’s domestic backroom operation.
In Filinvest Corporate City in Alabang, there is the Plaza @D, a six-storey building with total floor space of 10,800 sq.m.
And in Mandaluyong, there are the 12-storey EDSA Central IT Park of Greenfield Development Corp., with total floor space of 35,000 sq.m. and the Robinsons Cybergate Center 2 [phase2], with total floor space of 20,000 sq.m.
Except for the HSBC Manila Back Office, Net Cube Center and the second phase of the Robinsons Cybergate, most of the new buildings due for completion next year will either be scheduled for turn over to tenants at the start of third quarter.
For next year, amid the anticipated 240,000 sq.m. of additional of office supply, Mr. Dalgleish said there will still be a "significant office supply shortfall," as the demand from the BPO industry continues to grow.
Industry group Business Processing Association of the Philippines (BPAP) has projected that industry workforce will double from 162,250 persons at the end of last year to 343,013 persons by the end of 2007, meaning 180,763 new jobs will be created from this year until next year.
"This [forecast for 2007] is theoretically equivalent to around 1.1 million sq.m. of office demand, assuming six square meters of floor space per person. This is a slightly crude measure, but significantly there is some anecdotal evidence from occupiers to show that floor space requirements are indeed growing as rapidly as this," Mr. Dalgleish said.
"Even if you refuse to believe the BPAP forecasts and reduce them to historic growth levels, there is still a significant office supply shortfall. And don’t forget the rest of the service sector -- finance, banking, real estate and insurance -- which will also be the source office [space] demand," Mr. Dalgleish added.
For this year, Mr. Isip said the the estimated 90,000 cumulative call center seats is roughly equivalent to some 640,000 sq.m. of space occupied. Leechiu & Associates has estimated annual growth in demand for office space in Metro Manila at about 150,000 sq.m.
The growing demand for office space amid insufficient supply is expected to result in higher monthly rental rates next year, particularly for buildings in Makati and Ortigas central business districts (CBDs).
"Rental levels will likely be under the most upward pressure in Makati, in the absence of new supply. Vacancies, all grades, could hit 4.7% at the end of 2006 from 7.4% at the end of 2005," Mr. Dalgleish said.
He added that premium grade office rents -- such as Ayala Tower One, The Enterprise Center, PhilamLife Tower and RCBC Plaza -- will likely hit P780 per sq.m., an increase of 20% from current average of P650/sq.m.
"With most new supply due for completion in the latter part of 2007, we expect further rental growth in 2007," Mr. Dalgleish said.
In Makati City, Leechiu & Associates said rents for prime and grade A buildings have gone up by 20% to 25% from 2004 and renewals are at risk of 40% to 80% rental increases.
In Ortigas CBD, the firm added that rents for prime and grade A buildings have gone up 20% from 2004 and renewals are at risk of 20% to 30% rental increases, slightly lower than those of buildings in Makati CBD.
Office spaces are considered prime and grade A if located in prime or more luxurious buildings in key CBDs, with contiguous floor space of at least 2,000 sq.m., have the accreditation from the Philippine Economic Zone Authority for tax cuts and incentives, and if they have facilities and amenities required by big companies.
3cr May 7th, 2006, 07:56 AM Interesting article about the planning behind FBGC...
http://www.philippine-properties.com/bonifacio_global_city.htm
Fort Bonifacio, The Global City e2
"Technology is changing the world". We are bombarded daily with this message. Industries are transforming right before our very eyes. Companies that are too slow to adapt die, while new and better suited organizations come in and take their place. It is the age-old cycle of evolution, although the speed with which change is happening is surprising even the so-called experts.
The real estate scene is no different. The changing rules of the new economy are both an opportunity and a threat. The concept of e2 revolves around the building of a community within the Global City, aimed at the IT industry.
It will be a development where infrastructure is just as important as the lifestyle; where chips could refer to potato or silicon; where java could be the application you are developing or the coffee you are drinking.
Fort Bonifacio is well positioned to take advantage of this situation. We are at a crossroad where our decisions and actions can potentially lead the company and the country to great success. And e2 is Fort Bonifacio's proactive solution to what we see will be the requirements of the next millenium.
e2 will be where digital and analog converge. It will make Fort Bonifacio the IT capital of the Philippines.
Only five years ago the vision was conceived. Today rising towers designed by world renowned planners and architects, growing infrastructure and green landscapes attest to the project's steady progress. Art, culture, entertainment, spacious parks, efficient mass transport and state-of-the-art communications technology are taking shape in this carefully crafted city.
The Global City is in the heart of Metro Manila, minutes from the airport, just beside Makati's central business district, and close to upscale residential neighborhoods and world-class golf and sports facilities. The relocation of the Philippine Stock Exchange and the Goverment Center for Investments will make it the country's business hub, an ideal destination for local and international business, and a superb place to live.
Fort Bonifacio was an urban developer's dream: an unprecedented opportunity to create from the ground up a technologically advanced, environmentally friendly city, one which would be a model of functionality, efficiency, and beauty, and an inspiration to urban planners around the world.
The vision for Fort Bonifacio, now popularly known as the Bonifacio Global City, was founded upon solid research. The master planners and designers collaborated with world-renowned consulting firms to plot key trends of modern city life: urban growth, regional and international interaction, information technology, and environmental concerns. Innovative and reponsible land use is a major element of the Global City's design for a world-class urban community. The City is arranged in six integrated neighborhoods, zoning of which allows for a combination of high-rise mixed use residential and low-rise institutional uses. These neighborhoods are Bonifacio Center, Bonifacio South, Crescent West, North Bonifacio, Station Square East and University Park.
Mixed-use
As market forces change, the Global City will adapt. The zoning plan incorporates built-in flexibility-mixed-use land and designated flexible areas will allow the City to adjust to changes in market requirements. Mixed land use is allowed in several sections, but it will be predominant in the Bonifacio Center and along Bonifacio Boulevard. The Bonifacio Center will be an exciting, vibrant and convenient 24-hour urban core. Three successive concentric circles are formed by the Central Commons, Entertainment District, the Bonifacio Center Promenade and the Transit Stations. North Bonifacio will be a business and financial zone, flanked by residential areas.
Residential
The residential areas will offer grand views of the Manila Golf & Country Club as well as the Ortigas and Makati skylines. Despite its proximity to bustling Metro Manila and the airport, the residential zones will offer a serene, exclusive mood. Residential districts will be located in the Bonifacio South, the Crescent West and North Bonifacio neighborhoods, but will predominate in the Crescent West, where it can take advantage of the imposing views and the crescent-shaped community park.
Institutional
A green and relatively low-density campus-type environment has been designated for institutional uses. Called University Park, this 25-hectare site will house educational, medical and cultural institutions. The City will also accomodate world-class medical facilities with the country's best physicians.
Retail and Entertainment
In the heart of the metropolis will be the retail and entertainment district. The zone created to put "soul" in the City will feature a traffic-free road network with ample parking. On the site now, a low-rise 3,500 square meter structure popularly known as "The Fort" is currently Metro Manila's trendiest and liveliest dining and entertainment hub. This successful retail and entertainment center offers the public an opportunity to sample the City's unique lifestyle. It will eventually occupy 100,000 square meters, in order to accommodate more local and international retailers.
Other Uses
The Station Square East will be a bright, active transit and pedestrian-oriented entrance to the Global City. It will feature business, convention, hotel and shopping mall space, creating synergy with multi-modal Bonifacio Grand Central Station. This multi-modal station will be a transport hub for people moving in and out of the Global City. The North Rail Line will become the central spine of the Metro Manila Light Rail Transit System, connecting the City with north and south Luzon. It will also become the country's international gateway, with its direct link to the airport.
3cr May 7th, 2006, 08:18 AM Sir dudz,
Ganda talaga ng mga pics mo duon sa Makati thread!
Hope it's OK if I repost this in the FBGC thread as well. :okay:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/imagesaver1206/makati%20view/from%20zamora%20bridge%20050606/3f1b6839.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/imagesaver1206/makati%20view/from%20zamora%20bridge%20050606/b095dd6e.jpg
thomasian May 7th, 2006, 09:39 AM I hope other malls could gain entry into BGC. BTW, I know Robinsons land is eyeing to get a mixed-used chunk of land north of BGC, but what happened to the planned (years ago) high-end mall of SM in BGC, set to become like the second Podium?
macky May 7th, 2006, 10:19 AM Aaron, thanks for the pics buddy!
3cr, the article you have posted was primarily the top most main reason aside from being aesthetically Yawsa,yawsa,yawsa why i decided to invest at Fbgc with it's wired competitive edge to meet the future.
3cr May 7th, 2006, 10:28 AM I hope other malls could gain entry into BGC. BTW, I know Robinsons land is eyeing to get a mixed-used chunk of land north of BGC, but what happened to the planned (years ago) high-end mall of SM in BGC, set to become like the second Podium? Aaron,
Tuloy pa rin daw yun SM mall. It's still being mentioned in several articles I've read so far. So pati pala Robinson's will be joining the FBGC commercial center bandwagon. Wow FBGC will then be a true destination spot for shopping and dining. How about FBGC's CBD may balita ka ba? Ayala raw is suppose to be announcing/releasing details regarding the City Center in the coming weeks. :)
JAMAICUS May 7th, 2006, 10:39 AM ^^Define City Center? What would this be?
3cr May 7th, 2006, 10:40 AM Interesting article about the planning behind FBGC...
http://www.philippine-properties.com/bonifacio_global_city.htm
Fort Bonifacio, The Global City e2
"Technology is changing the world". We are bombarded daily with this message. Industries are transforming right before our very eyes. Companies that are too slow to adapt die, while new and better suited organizations come in and take their place. It is the age-old cycle of evolution, although the speed with which change is happening is surprising even the so-called experts.
The real estate scene is no different. The changing rules of the new economy are both an opportunity and a threat. The concept of e2 revolves around the building of a community within the Global City, aimed at the IT industry.
It will be a development where infrastructure is just as important as the lifestyle; where chips could refer to potato or silicon; where java could be the application you are developing or the coffee you are drinking.
Fort Bonifacio is well positioned to take advantage of this situation. We are at a crossroad where our decisions and actions can potentially lead the company and the country to great success. And e2 is Fort Bonifacio's proactive solution to what we see will be the requirements of the next millenium.
e2 will be where digital and analog converge. It will make Fort Bonifacio the IT capital of the Philippines.
Only five years ago the vision was conceived. Today rising towers designed by world renowned planners and architects, growing infrastructure and green landscapes attest to the project's steady progress. Art, culture, entertainment, spacious parks, efficient mass transport and state-of-the-art communications technology are taking shape in this carefully crafted city.
The Global City is in the heart of Metro Manila, minutes from the airport, just beside Makati's central business district, and close to upscale residential neighborhoods and world-class golf and sports facilities. The relocation of the Philippine Stock Exchange and the Goverment Center for Investments will make it the country's business hub, an ideal destination for local and international business, and a superb place to live.
Fort Bonifacio was an urban developer's dream: an unprecedented opportunity to create from the ground up a technologically advanced, environmentally friendly city, one which would be a model of functionality, efficiency, and beauty, and an inspiration to urban planners around the world.
The vision for Fort Bonifacio, now popularly known as the Bonifacio Global City, was founded upon solid research. The master planners and designers collaborated with world-renowned consulting firms to plot key trends of modern city life: urban growth, regional and international interaction, information technology, and environmental concerns. Innovative and reponsible land use is a major element of the Global City's design for a world-class urban community. The City is arranged in six integrated neighborhoods, zoning of which allows for a combination of high-rise mixed use residential and low-rise institutional uses. These neighborhoods are Bonifacio Center, Bonifacio South, Crescent West, North Bonifacio, Station Square East and University Park.
Mixed-use
As market forces change, the Global City will adapt. The zoning plan incorporates built-in flexibility-mixed-use land and designated flexible areas will allow the City to adjust to changes in market requirements. Mixed land use is allowed in several sections, but it will be predominant in the Bonifacio Center and along Bonifacio Boulevard. The Bonifacio Center will be an exciting, vibrant and convenient 24-hour urban core. Three successive concentric circles are formed by the Central Commons, Entertainment District, the Bonifacio Center Promenade and the Transit Stations. North Bonifacio will be a business and financial zone, flanked by residential areas.
Residential
The residential areas will offer grand views of the Manila Golf & Country Club as well as the Ortigas and Makati skylines. Despite its proximity to bustling Metro Manila and the airport, the residential zones will offer a serene, exclusive mood. Residential districts will be located in the Bonifacio South, the Crescent West and North Bonifacio neighborhoods, but will predominate in the Crescent West, where it can take advantage of the imposing views and the crescent-shaped community park.
Institutional
A green and relatively low-density campus-type environment has been designated for institutional uses. Called University Park, this 25-hectare site will house educational, medical and cultural institutions. The City will also accomodate world-class medical facilities with the country's best physicians.
Retail and Entertainment (Could this be the so-called City Center?)
In the heart of the metropolis will be the retail and entertainment district. The zone created to put "soul" in the City will feature a traffic-free road network with ample parking. On the site now, a low-rise 3,500 square meter structure popularly known as "The Fort" is currently Metro Manila's trendiest and liveliest dining and entertainment hub. This successful retail and entertainment center offers the public an opportunity to sample the City's unique lifestyle. It will eventually occupy 100,000 square meters, in order to accommodate more local and international retailers.
Other Uses
The Station Square East will be a bright, active transit and pedestrian-oriented entrance to the Global City. It will feature business, convention, hotel and shopping mall space, creating synergy with multi-modal Bonifacio Grand Central Station. This multi-modal station will be a transport hub for people moving in and out of the Global City. The North Rail Line will become the central spine of the Metro Manila Light Rail Transit System, connecting the City with north and south Luzon. It will also become the country's international gateway, with its direct link to the airport. 3cr, the article you have posted was primarily the top most main reason aside from being aesthetically Yawsa,yawsa,yawsa why i decided to invest at Fbgc with it's wired competitive edge to meet the future. Hi Macky. Uy gising ka pa? Mukhang burning the midnight oil ka yata bro. It's 1:30AM na here in Cali so what 4:30AM na diyan sa NJ di ba? Yup I agree with you, I was quite impressed with the thought that went in the planning of FBGC. Master-planned and World-class talaga siya not just interms of facilities and ammenities but also in lifestyle and ambiance. Ibang-iba ang dateng compared to any other area developments in and around Metro Manila. :)
3cr May 7th, 2006, 10:43 AM ^^Define City Center? What would this be? Jamaicus,
I imagine City Center is just another term for the actual CBD (central business district) core area. :)
Lightspeed May 8th, 2006, 01:50 AM ^^Define City Center? What would this be?
City Center is the exciting development that will be built in the Fort Bonifacio Central Circle that extends from Serendra all the way to Fifth Avenue and might even include the area very near the Megaworld's Forbestown complex.
Fort Bonifacio City Center will be mammoth and huge.
Think Ayala Avenue but instead of cars plying the entire stretch, it will be one gigantic landscaped promenade for leisurely strolling, shopping, as well as streetside dining.
Naiiba! It's probably an amalgamation of the National Mall in Washington DC (with its huge and sprawling area), Paris and Rodeo Drive.
Abangan!
pau_p1 May 8th, 2006, 02:54 AM the City Center will only be the old Central Core..... the Serendra and Market!Market! area is Station Square East while the Forbestown and the condos on the Manila Golf side is Cresent West.... I know that it is Crescent West because, we just got informed of our future new addres in BGC..... Net Square, Crescent West, BGC, Taguig City... :D
3cr May 8th, 2006, 06:38 AM City Center is the exciting development that will be built in the Fort Bonifacio Central Circle that extends from Serendra all the way to Fifth Avenue and might even include the area very near the Megaworld's Forbestown complex.
Fort Bonifacio City Center will be mammoth and huge.
Think Ayala Avenue but instead of cars plying the entire stretch, it will be one gigantic landscaped promenade for leisurely strolling, shopping, as well as streetside dining.
Naiiba! It's probably an amalgamation of the National Mall in Washington DC (with its huge and sprawling area), Paris and Rodeo Drive.
Abangan! Hi Lightspeed.
Di ba Ayala is removing the Circular Core (Central Circle) and replacing it with an East/West oriented linear park that will be surrounded by commercial establishments? So will the City Center basically be the linear park that's under construction and the structures that will be surrounding and eminating from the said linear park? And how about the actual CBD (Central Business District) itself where will the office buidings be located in conjunction to the City Center? Do you have info as to which way/direction (North to South or East to West) Ayala may be planning to develop FBGC's CBD? Not sure kasi if Ayala's announcement of the City Center plan will include/address the CBD. Just that if the CBD follows the East/West orientation of the linear park, then this will essentially mean the northern tip of FBGC will be relegated to a lesser role. And this will be such a shame because the Kalayaan flyover was an expensive undertaking and should be used/utilized better in the over all scheme of things. That's why sana North/South orientation naman ang development ng CBD sa Fort Boni to act as a counterpoint to the East/West orientation of the City Center (linear park and its surrounding commercial developments). This will also be better for the traffic flow. :)
KiBeN May 8th, 2006, 07:01 AM nasa dyaryo yun ah, yung business friday, yung bagong plan nila at yung bagong logo.
renell May 8th, 2006, 07:44 AM City Center is the exciting development that will be built in the Fort Bonifacio Central Circle that extends from Serendra all the way to Fifth Avenue and might even include the area very near the Megaworld's Forbestown complex.
Fort Bonifacio City Center will be mammoth and huge.
Think Ayala Avenue but instead of cars plying the entire stretch, it will be one gigantic landscaped promenade for leisurely strolling, shopping, as well as streetside dining.
Naiiba! It's probably an amalgamation of the National Mall in Washington DC (with its huge and sprawling area), Paris and Rodeo Drive.
Abangan!
You mean like the Champs Elysses? let's hope it's not cobblestoned so as to preserve high-heels and make it not as slippery:D no, really, this is thrilling stuff can't wait for the renderings. This is something Makati and Ortigas really don't have, the real "heart" of the CBD. only the SM development in the reclaimed area comes close at the moment. Or maybe Eastwood, though it's not really a business district.
pau_p1 May 8th, 2006, 07:50 AM my thoughts would be the neighborhoods will be divided this way...
orange - Bonifacio North
violet - University Park (the article says to contain schools and hospitals..)
red - Crescent West
blue - Bonifacio Center
green - Station Square East
cyan - Bonifacio South (this is in the BGC site)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/fbgcoldmasterplan_sections.jpg
3cr May 8th, 2006, 09:40 AM Taguig's Baywalk: Lake Shore
I got these images from Taguig's website.
OVERALL CONCEPT
http://www.cyberworksbs.com/oth_img/concept.jpg
THE BOARDWALK
http://www.cyberworksbs.com/oth_img/boardwalk.jpg
PAROLA AND GRANDSTAND
http://www.cyberworksbs.com/oth_img/parola.jpg
kontrabida May 8th, 2006, 09:45 AM sana may magpropose ng tower sa BGC around 400m or more para landmark..
parang ganito hehehe..http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c367/tayonglahat/other/bonitower.jpg
thomasian May 8th, 2006, 02:29 PM nasa dyaryo yun ah, yung business friday, yung bagong plan nila at yung bagong logo.
Pwede pa-scan. :D
KiBeN May 8th, 2006, 04:49 PM Pwede pa-scan. :D
picturan ko na lang, hahaha, sumabog... hindi naman sa sumabog :jk: nasira kasi yung Printer at scanner namin eh, ayaw gumana... tsaka lukot na ata yung issue na yun eh, katabi ko kasi sa kama, pnapag-aralan ko... hahaha :jk:
JAMAICUS May 8th, 2006, 05:07 PM ^^ Well, can you take a picture of it and post it here...
KiBeN May 8th, 2006, 05:14 PM ^^ Well, can you take a picture of it and post it here...
oh my... I forgot that my digi-cam ay nasa cousin ko sa Dubai, uhm... teka, gagawa ako ng paraan... :)
3cr May 8th, 2006, 06:09 PM Intayin ang susunod na kabanata mula kay Kebin! Hehehe... :)
Pasensiya ka na Kebin we don't mean to put pressure on you bro.
Kaya lang excited na kami makita yung City Plan ng Ayala for FBGC.
Thanks in advance for your effort. We look forward to your posting! :)
KiBeN May 8th, 2006, 06:27 PM Intayin ang susunod na kabanata mula kay Kebin! Hehehe... :)
Pasensiya ka na Kebin we don't mean to put pressure on you bro.
Kaya lang excited na kami makita yung City Plan ng Ayala for FBGC.
Thanks in advance for your effort. We look forward to your posting! :)
while I'm studying on how to put pics from my digicam to my newly ayused PC, isasumarize ko na lang yung nabasa ko... very short lang siya, kung nakita niyo sa newspaper, it has a new logo, the plan was to make a very long Greenbelt - like structures in the middle which stretch up to 500meters daw, like what they said, it will have less traffics. (hirap mag-english :jk: )
ok.... I give up, hahaha, tinatamad na ako eh, tsaka naaantok na ako, bukas na lang ha? nasa dyaryo naman nung friday lang sa inquirer. check niyo na lang... need to go na... :runaway:
macky May 8th, 2006, 10:43 PM 3cr, I'm up around that time since my work hours is 7p to 7a graveyard shift sa hospital but only 3 times a week,and i'm off thursday to sunday( plenty of time to bum around).
Exciting talaga itong relaunching ng Bgc center core. I hope it turn out like Champs Elysee like Renell said, with its long promenade parks and that all glassy pyramid museum where they house the famous original ' Mona Lisa'. Btw, here in NY,they are planning also to make Times Square area and 42nd Street a pedestrian friendly by reviving back the Monorail system.
Lightspeed May 9th, 2006, 01:54 AM Hi 3cr,
Yes, the Fort Bonifacio City Center is the area in the former Central Circle which is now linear in nature and which will have commercial establishments, mini-parks and a huge promenade/esplanade.
The City Center will also incorporate office buildings that will be in the outer core of the Center.
So parang the promenade, landscaped mini-parks and low-rise commercial structures will be found in the center of the City Center. Surrounding this pedestrian nerve center will be high-rises.
Hi Lightspeed.
Di ba Ayala is removing the Circular Core (Central Circle) and replacing it with an East/West oriented linear park that will be surrounded by commercial establishments? So will the City Center basically be the linear park that's under construction and the structures that will be surrounding and eminating from the said linear park? And how about the actual CBD (Central Business District) itself where will the office buidings be located in conjunction to the City Center? Do you have info as to which way/direction (North to South or East to West) Ayala may be planning to develop FBGC's CBD? Not sure kasi if Ayala's announcement of the City Center plan will include/address the CBD. Just that if the CBD follows the East/West orientation of the linear park, then this will essentially mean the northern tip of FBGC will be relegated to a lesser role. And this will be such a shame because the Kalayaan flyover was an expensive undertaking and should be used/utilized better in the over all scheme of things. That's why sana North/South orientation naman ang development ng CBD sa Fort Boni to act as a counterpoint to the East/West orientation of the City Center (linear park and its surrounding commercial developments). This will also be better for the traffic flow. :)
asraz May 9th, 2006, 07:55 AM News Article from Business World...
Work-life balance enhanced in Bonifacio Global City
Filipino executives, together with their Singaporean counterparts, are the most stressed among Asian executives, according to Asian Wall Street Journal’s recent Managing in Asia survey. Stress levels for both groups are attributable to rising costs and the strong pressure to compete on price, according to the study.
As more families in the Asia-Pacific region experience the tension of having both parents working outside the home, stress levels are ever increasing. The struggles of executives to seek quality of life not only on the job but outside of the workplace as well have given rise to an expressed need for work-life balance. The survey discloses that as many as two-thirds of families have both parents working outside the home.
Work-life balance, however, requires more than simply granting employees more benefits or more time off to attend to their personal needs. Urban planning can also play a key role in helping executives achieve work-life balance, according to Jun Bisnar, Fort Bonifacio Development Corp.’s head of commercial operations.
By providing the infrastructure and systems for a city where residents live, work and play in areas within walking distance of one another, a balance between career, family and personal life can be achieved. In fact, work-life balance for its residents is the overarching goal of the Bonifacio Global City master plan which will be launched soon.
"We’ve picked up lessons from the experiences of other central business developments that are now fully built-up," Mr. Bisnar said.
Under the current setup, business districts are devoted mostly to offices and some support commercial use. Because there are few residential areas near places of work, people arrive at about the same time in the morning and return home en masse in the late afternoon. These peak rush hours lead to massive gridlocks in urban centers. At the same time, power demand peaks during the day and wanes in the evenings when the districts become virtual ghost towns.
By adapting a mixed-use approach, people will be able to live and work in the same place. When work is a few minutes drive, or even a walk, away from home, they are freed to spend more time with their families and can attend to personal concerns, Mr. Bisnar said.
Behind the master plan is a multi-disciplinary team comprised of Ayala Land experts in planning, office development, commercial centers, and property management who brainstormed for 18 months to map out development in the area together with officers from the Fort Bonifacio Development Corp. (FBDC) and Ayala Land’s partners in FBDC, Unilab and the Bases Conversion Development Authority. The team also benefited from the inputs of the best consultants in the fields of urban design, landscaping, transportation, utilities and infrastructure.
The team took into consideration not only present problems of existing business districts that led to the current work-life imbalance, but also requirements of the future global city such as an estimated 6,000 to 8,000 new families who are expected to establish residence there in the next 10 years.
"They will enjoy the benefits of a less stressful work environment, while taking pleasure in spending more quality time with their loved ones," Mr. Bisnar said.
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Story Location: http://www.bworldonline.com/BW050406/content.php?id=103
asraz May 9th, 2006, 07:59 AM Here is another news article from Philippine Star about the new FBGC City Center...
40-hectare commercial center to rise in Taguig
By Rhodina Villanueva
The Philippine Star 05/09/2006
A 40-hectare commercial complex will soon rise in Taguig as part of the local officials’ vision of developing the city into a premier business district.
City Councilor Allan Paul Cruz said the "city center" which will be developed by the Fort Bonifacio Development Corp. and Ayala Land Corp. will bring all activities including work and leisure to a centralized urban center.
"After 18 months of planning, Bonifacio Global City has unveiled a new master plan that will transform the emerging district along C-5 into a city that never sleeps," Cruz noted.
"The new master plan is a reaction to traffic and long commutes to work and the demand for recreational and entertainment venues. The vision for the new Bonifacio Global City is to allow those who live and work there to have balanced activities," he added.
Cruz likewise pointed out that the revised master plan will be a general road map to a city planned to meet future needs of residents.
An earlier version of the said master plan entailed a snapshot of the Global City 30 to 50 years from now.
"The city center to be built in Barangays Western Bicutan and Ususan will give residents in the area easy access to work and relaxation, including nightlife activities, so that there would be no need for them to leave the Global City’s premises," the official explained.
He added that the development of the "city center" has been approved by the city council recently.
Cruz said these recent developments show that the city has been attracting more investors that would generate more income for Taguig.
"The city has not only become a highly urbanized area but has also been earmarked as an upcoming center for industrial and commercial development by the business community," he said.
Earlier, it was reported that the Singapore Embassy has bought a property in Fort Bonifacio in Taguig and is expected to transfer its office there by 2008.
Meanwhile, the Hongkong Shanghai Banking Corp. (HSBC) office is planning to move in by January 2007.
ryanr May 9th, 2006, 09:06 AM As always, superb pics Dudz!:okay:
3cr May 9th, 2006, 10:12 AM Kiben, Lightspeed and Asraz,
Thanks for your respective posts on FBGC's City Center. Nakaka-excite talaga to read what's in the pipeline for FBGC. The area is really developing quickly into an urban city like no other in and around Metro Manila. FBGC is such a desireable community in terms of overall combination of location, infrastructure, facilities, amenities, ambiance, and other intrinsic values such as the City Center. This is the beauty of FBGC (it's trump card so to speak) which is why demand is very strong and prices are rising fast and steady. Swerte those who have invested early since it can be quite expensive there now but I think it's worth it to be able to live/work in FBGC. :okay:
_zner_ May 9th, 2006, 11:11 AM kaso expensive masyado yung mga condo sa global city..
ishtefh_03 May 9th, 2006, 01:59 PM BTW, I know Robinsons land is eyeing to get a mixed-used chunk of land north of BGC...
yup, mga 60,000 sqm (60 hectares) sya and it's a mixed used development comprised of residential towers, office towers and hotel blocks, commercial/ retail development.. ok 'to!!! promise... :D
mas malaki pa sa "city center" kung matutuloy ito ng RLC... :D
ishtefh_03 May 9th, 2006, 02:09 PM here's a photo pala taken early this morning at around 8am... medyo foggy lng nga pag morning kaya hindi kita ang ganda ng pacific plaza... :D
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ishtefh_03/DSC02995.jpg
btw, kuya boe, i saw kase in the old issue of bluprint, mga issue 1999 ata yun where they feature pacific plaza and they interviewed people who owns a unit there and one of them is ung dad ni sir nick, hanggang ngayon ba dun pa rin??? edi nakita mo na rin yun??? ganda ng interior ng unit nya pinakita rin kase sa mag eh... :D
KiBeN May 9th, 2006, 02:41 PM eto na po yung pics, sorry ha, tinamad ako kagabi eh... haha :)
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3635/dsc001633gk.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8633/dsc001644ge.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2787/dsc001656pt.jpg
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8196/dsc001666nw.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7199/dsc001682fy.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2199/dsc001692xg.jpg
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5731/dsc001713ez.jpg
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7229/dsc001720pm.jpg
pinicturan ko lang eh, sira yung scanner namin... :)
JAMAICUS May 9th, 2006, 03:02 PM WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THANKS KIBEN!!!!!! THAT 6th pic really does gives you the picture of the linear park!!!!
richard24 May 9th, 2006, 04:24 PM i love that 6th pic too... i hope those building they used in that rendering get built... hehehe.. :)
3cr May 9th, 2006, 08:17 PM eto na po yung pics, sorry ha, tinamad ako kagabi eh... haha :)
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3635/dsc001633gk.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8633/dsc001644ge.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2787/dsc001656pt.jpg
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8196/dsc001666nw.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7199/dsc001682fy.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2199/dsc001692xg.jpg
pinicturan ko lang eh, sira yung scanner namin... :)
^^ Salamat ulit Kebin. Ang ganda naman nito ah. The last pic above really rocks! I like it! :applause: :bow: :righton:
rockwell baller May 9th, 2006, 08:28 PM i also got an issue of inquirer last friday and saw that BGC is in the cover of business section! they've come up with the final plan(see the 5th pic of Kiben) and their perspective of the city square that looks like tokyo in the last pic. inside the issue was an artwork by jaime ayala and at the back where the articles.
@ishtefh_03: nice pic of the morning Pcfic plaza look!
3cr May 9th, 2006, 09:05 PM here's a photo pala taken early this morning at around 8am... medyo foggy lng nga pag morning kaya hindi kita ang ganda ng pacific plaza... :D
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ishtefh_03/DSC02995.jpg
Hi Steph.
Where in did you take this pic? Parang ang lapit lang ng Pacific Plaza. Thank You din ha at na-extra pa ang Fairways Tower. Lakas ko talaga sa iyo! Hehehe... :)
3cr May 9th, 2006, 09:07 PM btw, kuya boe, i saw kase in the old issue of bluprint, mga issue 1999 ata yun where they feature pacific plaza and they interviewed people who owns a unit there and one of them is ung dad ni sir nick, hanggang ngayon ba dun pa rin??? edi nakita mo na rin yun??? ganda ng interior ng unit nya pinakita rin kase sa mag eh... :D
Hi Steph. I saw the pics of the unit in Pacific Plaza too at gaya ng sabi mo maganda nga yung pagkakagawa at pagkaka-ayos nung unit. They are really a very talented/gifted father and son team that's why nga papatulong ako kay Tito and Nick with my unit when it's turned over to me na. :)
ryanr May 9th, 2006, 10:33 PM :eek2: Awesome, Kiben! Thanks for scanning (EDIT: taking a photo) and posting that newspaper feature.:master:
The last rendering makes it look like Chicago!:okay: Do they have an online version of the article? I'm sure it would be a great read.
pau_p1 May 10th, 2006, 05:00 AM I was trying to search it in inq7.net or even in google but I can't find it...
OtAkAw May 10th, 2006, 06:25 AM Ang SUPER pala ng mga plans for FBGC!!!!!!!!
c0kelitr0 May 10th, 2006, 06:30 AM OMG! are some of those buildings real projects???
_zner_ May 10th, 2006, 06:59 AM http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2199/dsc001692xg.jpg
juice koh... mangyari naman kaya ito? as in ganitong ganito? :lol:
bustero May 10th, 2006, 10:28 AM ^^why not those are mostly doable projects nothing really tall and flashy
_zner_ May 10th, 2006, 10:32 AM ^^ thats how they see m.manila in the future.. small.
rustyboi May 10th, 2006, 11:40 AM I was hoping if they can still come up with this in the future.
http://www.rnlinternational.com/Images/Projects/Fort-Bonifacio_3.jpg
http://www.rnlinternational.com/Images/Projects/Fort-Bonifacio_1.jpg
http://www.rnlinternational.com/Images/Projects/Fort-Bonifacio_2.jpg
Thanks for the images Kiben!
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2199/dsc001692xg.jpg
^^this one still looks great and more doable! this is exciting..
3cr May 10th, 2006, 11:42 AM http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2199/dsc001692xg.jpg
juice koh... mangyari naman kaya ito? as in ganitong ganito? :lol:
^^ thats how they see m.manila in the future.. small.
^^ Myx,
That linear park is the core of FBGC's City Center which is why the buildings/structures along side of the park are on the smallish side as shown in that pic though the structures eminating from the linear park will progressively get taller as they move away from it. This is also one way of ensuring FBGC's fututre skyline will be made up of it's tallest and hopefully most striking of it's buildings. Ito rin ang sabi ni Lightspeed in his explanation which I've posted below. Now that we've seen the rendering we'll just have to wait and see how it turns out in its execution. And with Ayala's track record I feel assured it will be nothing less than spectacular especially when you consider the fact that there will be nothing quite like it (especially in its scale) anywhere in and out of MetroManila when that City Center finally comes to fruition. FBGC Rocks! :)
Hi 3cr,
Yes, the Fort Bonifacio City Center is the area in the former Central Circle which is now linear in nature and which will have commercial establishments, mini-parks and a huge promenade/esplanade.
The City Center will also incorporate office buildings that will be in the outer core of the Center.
So parang the promenade, landscaped mini-parks and low-rise commercial structures will be found in the center of the City Center. Surrounding this pedestrian nerve center will be high-rises.
3cr May 10th, 2006, 12:29 PM my thoughts would be the neighborhoods will be divided this way...
orange - Bonifacio North
violet - University Park (the article says to contain schools and hospitals..)
red - Crescent West
blue - Bonifacio Center
green - Station Square East
cyan - Bonifacio South (this is in the BGC site)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/fbgcoldmasterplan_sections.jpg
I hope other malls could gain entry into BGC. BTW, I know Robinsons land is eyeing to get a mixed-used chunk of land north of BGC. yup, mga 60,000 sqm (60 hectares) sya and it's a mixed used development comprised of residential towers, office towers and hotel blocks, commercial/ retail development.. ok 'to!!! promise... :D
mas malaki pa sa "city center" kung matutuloy ito ng RLC... :D Guess this means the Northern area of FBGC will no longer be solely for office buildings as originally zoned. So looks like hindi na duon nakaplano yung financial/business center (main CBD) ng FBGC. Mixed use na siya ngayon.
ishtefh_03 May 10th, 2006, 12:47 PM Hi Steph.
Where in did you take this pic? Parang ang lapit lang ng Pacific Plaza. Thank You din ha at na-extra pa ang Fairways Tower. Lakas ko talaga sa iyo! Hehehe... :)
from ayala over pass, nung dumaan ako then kitang kita ung bldg...
excited na talaga fairways tower si kuya boe!!! :D
Hi Steph. I saw the pics of the unit in Pacific Plaza too at gaya ng sabi mo maganda nga yung pagkakagawa at pagkaka-ayos nung unit. They are really a very talented/gifted father and son team that's why nga papatulong ako kay Tito and Nick with my unit when it's turned over to me na. :)
that's what i know rin, na sa makati natira si sir nick, sa my kahon daw sa kanto ng ayala ave sya nakatira sabi nya dati!!! :lol:
kung papatulong ka, edi siguradong maganda nyan ang unit mo!!! :D
geebeng May 11th, 2006, 04:30 AM http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7199/dsc001682fy.jpg
labo naman ni Ayala tinanggal na sa mapa Bellagio :ohno:
marites4 May 11th, 2006, 04:49 AM He he ^ ayaw makita mga karival.
3cr May 11th, 2006, 05:19 AM http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7199/dsc001682fy.jpg
labo naman ni Ayala tinanggal na sa mapa Bellagio :ohno:
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8196/dsc001666nw.jpg
Di bale Geebeng notice in the pic how close the linear park and City Center will be to Bellagio, Forbestown Heights as well as to other neighboring condo developments along Manila Golf. This is indeed great news to those who have invested in the area. Ang ganda na and so convenient pa kasi meron nang Forbestown Commercial Center tapos meron pang City Center as well! No need to drive anymore to shop and dine since it's basically walking distance from most of the condo developments in FBGC. :okay:
IsaganiZenze May 11th, 2006, 09:44 AM Taken by REY NOCUM from pinoyphotography.com
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/aLueZgAniZen/FORTBONI.jpg
_zner_ May 11th, 2006, 09:51 AM ^^ :eek:
ishtefh_03 May 11th, 2006, 01:18 PM Taken by REY NOCUM from pinoyphotography.com
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/aLueZgAniZen/FORTBONI.jpg
nice pic you got there!!! :D
3cr May 11th, 2006, 08:26 PM ^^ Yup I agree maganda nga yang night shot of FBGC that Rey took and many thanks to Isagani for posting it! :okay:
geebeng May 12th, 2006, 03:45 AM http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2199/dsc001692xg.jpg
sa susunod na peoples power kasama na FBGC :nocrook:
KiBeN May 12th, 2006, 04:38 AM wow! ganda nung kuha! nasa isang straight line lng ang mga buildings... hehehe
Dvorak May 12th, 2006, 04:39 AM anong street sa FBGC ba yan??
asraz May 12th, 2006, 04:40 AM http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2199/dsc001692xg.jpg
sa susunod na peoples power kasama na FBGC :nocrook:
I hope not. Kaya nga balak na mag-alisan ang mga businesses sa Makati dahil sa rally sa Ayala Avenue. Good thing, very good ang Mayor ng Taguig.
JAMAICUS May 12th, 2006, 04:54 AM anong street sa FBGC ba yan??
I think that's the linear park...
Gibson@G&W May 13th, 2006, 07:40 AM Taken by REY NOCUM from pinoyphotography.com
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/aLueZgAniZen/FORTBONI.jpg
Wow! Amazing picture! Galing!
3cr May 13th, 2006, 10:23 AM Wow just came across this in the web. Can this possibly be another FBGC project in the making?
MCKINLEY CENTER: Pagbabago Master Plan
Client: Pagbabago Development Corporation
Primary Architects: Philip Johnson / Alan Ritchie
Associate Architects: Recio Casas
Covering some 64 hectares, the program lays out what is in effect a small city. This master plan is to be built in Fort Bonifacio District in one of several defined development zones. Close to Ninoy Aquino International Airport and 2 kilometers from Makati, this development will be reached by road and light rail and include residential towers, offices, hotels, a theme park, country club, retail mall and chapel. Arnold Palmer will be involved in the design of the18-hole golf course.
Taken from: http://www.pjar.com/pdf/McKinley_Center_Master_Plan.pdf
renell May 13th, 2006, 10:42 AM http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2199/dsc001692xg.jpg
sa susunod na peoples power kasama na FBGC :nocrook:
uhm. nah.
i like this a lot though....
3cr May 13th, 2006, 10:56 AM Robinsons Land Eyeing 15-hectare Fort Boni Lot
Article published in Business World
By: Jennee Grace U. Rubrico, Senior Reporter
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Robinsons Land Corp. is eyeing for its next acquisition the 15-hectare property the bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) is set to auction this year.
In an interview, Danilo E. Ignacio, general manager for the high-rise buildings division of the Gokongwei-led firm, said Robinsons Land is interested in bidding for the undeveloped lands.
The 15 hectares are located north of Fort Bonifacio in Taguig. Of the 15 hectares, the North Central Business District lot comprises 8.5 hectares. The lot is beside the 10-hectare property of the Metropolitan Bank & Trust Co. (Metrobank). The North Bonifacio lots comprise the remaining 6.6 hectares.
“We are interested in BCDA's tender for the Northern area [of Fort Bonifacio]. We're interested in the whole thing,” Mr. Ignacio told BusinessWorld.
He said Robinsons Land is just waiting for the BCDA to release the terms of reference for the bidding.
“We want to acquire it at the right price, and the right terms,” he said.
He said the firm will embark on a mixed-use project for the area if it wins in the auction.
“For a property that large, it will be mixed-use. That's our model. We pioneered in the mixed-use concept.”
BCDA Vice-President Aileen Anunciacion R. Zosa told BusinessWorld the bidding is scheduled for the middle of this year.
She said the government agency is prioritizing the re-planning of the area.
“Because Metrobank already has the 10 hectares that is beside the 8.5 hectares we need to coordinate with them on the master planning. Right now, we are into joint planning. We might finish this in the second quarter.” she said.
The master plan, she said, will need the approval of a number of government agencies, including the local government and the Housing and Land Use Regulatory Board.
She said that issues on financing the construction of common roads and access roads are currently being threshed out.
BCDA, she said has the option to pass on the cost of the road construction to the winning bidder.
Ms. Zosa said the terms of reference for the bidding will be released “when we are ready to bid it out.”
BCDA expects to raise P4 billion in revenues from the sale of the 15 hectares in Fort Bonifacio .
Robinsons Land, which acquires land on an as-needed basis, is looking at acquiring the 15 hectares in Fort Bonifacio shortly after it won the bid for the Manila Gas property.
As part of the company's plan to expand its presence in Fort Bonifacio , Mr. Ignacio said the firm is also in talks with other landowners in Fort Bonifacio for either acquiring their property or entering into joint-venture agreements.
Currently, Robinsons Land's projects in Fort Bonifacio include Fifth Avenue Place, which is sold out, and McKinley Park Residences.
Robinsons Land eyes Fort Boni property
An article published in The BusinessWorld, April 24, 2006
By: Jennee Grace U. Rubrico
Taken from the offiicial website of Robinsons Land Corporation..
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Publicly listed Robinsons Land Corp. is in talks with a property owner in Fort Bonifacio, Taguig for either a purchase or a joint venture agreement to develop a property in the area into a residential condominium project..
In a talk with reporters last Friday, RLC High Rise Division General Manager Danilo E. Ignacio said the site is located near The Fort, Fort Bonifacio's food and entertainment strip. "The property is very neart the entertainment area. We are now negotiating with the owner," he said. He declined to divulge details about the property, saying this might jeopardize ongoing negotiations.
But he said the property, currently vacant, is privately owned and that it is of "standard size." "It's a typical lot for Fort Bonifacio. A typical lot would be around 1,600 square meters," he said. Mr. Ignacio said RLC is hoping to develop the property into a high rise condominium project that will cater to the Filipino-American market. "We hope to acquire it within the quarter," he said. He noted RLC's units in Fort Bonifacio are running out. The company has two projects in Fort Bonifacio - Fifth Avenue Place, and McKinley Park Residences. RLC officials earlier said Fifth Avenue Place has been sold out. McKinley Park Residences, for which the company is doing a roadshow abroad, is down to its last few units, Mr. Ignacio said. "It's not sold out yet but we only have few units left, which is why we're looking at a negotiating for the acquisition property in Fort Bonifacio," he said.
Bases Conversion
Besides the privately owned lot that RLC is trying to secure, the firm is also set to bid for the lots that the Bases Conversion Development Authority plans to auction by June. The lots, covering over 15 hectares of property, are raw lands located north of Fort Bonifacio and on the North Central Business District. Of the 15 hectares, 66,621 square meters comprise the North Bonifacio lots, which start at the North Gate of the former military base, while another 85,138 square meters are on the North Central Business District lots. As this developed, RLC is set to develop the Jardine Davis Investments Inc. property it acquired early this year into a residential project for overseas Filipino workers. The property is located at Merville, Parańaque City. Mr. Ignacio said the 9.3 hectare property will be used for mid-rise condominiums with units priced at P2 million and sized at 45 square meters.
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We are looking forward for another of Mc kinley Park Residences or perhaps a Fifth Avenue Place 2..
Lets wait and see.. :) Thanks for the post Bevepi. Keep us updated! :)
thomasian May 13th, 2006, 11:07 AM Wow just came across this in the web. Can this possibly be another FBGC project in the making?
MCKINLEY CENTER: Pagbabago Master Plan
Client: Pagbabago Development Corporation
Primary Architects: Philip Johnson / Alan Ritchie
Associate Architects: Recio Casas
Covering some 64 hectares, the program lays out what is in effect a small city. This master plan is to be built in Fort Bonifacio District in one of several defined development zones. Close to Ninoy Aquino International Airport and 2 kilometers from Makati, this development will be reached by road and light rail and include residential towers, offices, hotels, a theme park, country club, retail mall and chapel. Arnold Palmer will be involved in the design of the18-hole golf course.
Taken from: http://www.pjar.com/pdf/McKinley_Center_Master_Plan.pdf
Nah, that project is currently known as Megaworld's "McKinley Hill" project, a mixed-use development, parang katulad nung Newport, Eastwood at Forbestown projects nila.
3cr May 13th, 2006, 11:10 AM Nah, that project is currently known as Megaworld's "McKinley Hill" project, a mixed-use development, parang katulad nung Newport, Eastwood at Forbestown projects nila. Thanks for the clarification Aaron. Sabi kasi the client is Pagbabago Development Corporation tuloy kala ko bagong project nanaman. So this is Megaworld's McKinley Hill pala. :)
Speaking of McKinley Hill...
Call Centers Give Rise To New Business Districts
Article taken from Business World
BY MARICEL E. ESTAVILLO, Reporter
Pushed by the call center boom, 14 new business districts are rising in Metro Manila. Combined, these emerging locations will add about 1,300 hectares of developed land, alternatives to the already congested Makati City and Ortigas Center, according to data from property consultancy firm Leechiu & Associates Inc.
Leading the development are big-ticket real estate firms -- the same ones which took the brunt of the 1997 Asian crisis but now with renewed optimism from a sudden rise in office demand.
"All of these have solid developers behind them, with deep pockets, long-term vision and track record to build buildings that are at least the same if not better than the ones you find in Makati. These buildings will be better able to address the needs of tenants," said David T. Leechiu, president and general manager.
Megaworld
First in the list is Megaworld Corp. After its successful bet on Eastwood City in Libis in Quezon City, the listed firm is now focusing on the 50-hectare McKinley Hill Cyber Park in Taguig City and the 25-hectare New Port City in Pasay City.
Designed for a mixed-use development, New Port is expected to start construction in 2007 after McKinley Hill, Megaworld investor relation officer John T. Hao said. New Port is a joint venture between Megaworld and state-owned Bases Conversion and Development Authority (BCDA).
"We don’t have the final plan yet for the office development in New Port but we are expecting a dozen more IT buildings to rise in that area," he said. Along with office buildings, development will also include residences and hotels.
Office construction in McKinley is set to start early next year, to run for seven to ten years. Megaworld has already set aside some P8.2 billion for McKinley Hill. It plans to put up at least 2,000 square meters of office space, mostly for call center and business process outsourcing (BPO) companies and to build retail shops and condominiums in the area, replicating the Eastwood City development.
Prospective company locators in McKinley Hill include new ones and those operating in the Eastwood City CyberPark that are gunning for expansion. "This is for our future clients and existing clients in Eastwood which want to expand but still choose to locate inside Metro Manila," Mr. Hao said.
Eastwood has about 60 technology company locators, employing some 12,000 to 15,000 people.
McKinley Hill is just a piece of a bigger emerging business district in Taguig City -- the mixed-use 41-hectare Fort Bonifacio Global City that is now controlled and managed by Ayala Land, Inc. and Evergreen Holdings, Inc. of the Campos Group.
"The Ayala-Campos consortium provides credibility and foundation for sustained development and it has high potential for capital appreciation in the mid-term," Mr. Leechiu said.
At present, office facilities in Fort Bonifacio are 100% occupied and upcoming buildings such as Net Square are already pre-sold, with strong interest coming from large multinational tenants wanting 8,000 square meters and up of office space.
Araneta Center promoted
In Quezon City, meanwhile, Araneta Center Inc. (ACI) is now aggressive in promoting its 35-hectare Araneta Center as a premier business location.
In its master plan, an eight-hectare Cyber Park will be developed on the land where the Elephant World, Fiesta Carnival and parking space fronting the Coliseum are located. The Cyber Park has been initially planned to house up to 10 office buildings.
Most of these prospective buildings are for build-to-suit development on which construction will start as the market asks, ACI leasing manager Eugenio C. Barcelona said.
Next year, it will convert the 3,000-square meter old SeaFood Market Restaurant -- now called the Expo Centro -- into a call center location. This is a one-floor facility located at the corner of EDSA and McArthur Street.
It is also looking at converting a portion of the top floor of the Ali Mall, which now hosts cinemas, into office facilities to meet urgent demand from the industry. These will add to the four-floor office facility at the Gateway Mall, which is now fully occupied by BPO firm Accenture Philippines.
ACI is also looking at expanding the Gateway and the Plaza Fair buildings, to make way for the Gateway Office Tower.
Mandaluyong developments
In Mandaluyong City, Campos-led Greenfield has EDSA Central and Robinsons Land Corp. (RLC) is in the process of creating a mixed-use complex.
At an estimated cost of P2 billion, Greenfield will build a 12-storey and 35,000-square meter office building called EDSA Central IT Park by first quarter next year. It has also started the development of the two-storey and 16,000-square meter EDSA Central IT Center II that will replace Uniwide mall, located at the corner of United Street and EDSA.
These will add to the operational EDSA Central IT Center, which is composed of two buildings with a combined floor area of 36,393 square meters.
Meanwhile, RLC’s 28-storey office building for call centers and BPO firms, Robinsons Cybergate Center (RCC) Tower 2, will be completed by third quarter next year. This will replicate the already sold out RCC Tower 1.
These office buildings are part of RLC’s mixed-use community that includes Robinsons Place Pioneer Mall and RLC’s residential condominiums -- One Gateway Place, Gateway Garden Ridge and Gateway Garden Heights.
In Pasay City, Federal Land is pitching its 45-hectare Metropolitan Business Park as the next business destination.
"We are also looking at call centers and technology companies as tenants in our future office buildings. Our buildings in Makati City such as Philippine AXA Life Center and GT Tower are already 100%- occupied," said Ramon Aldaba, Federal first vice-president for sales and marketing.
Development for Metropolitan Business Park will run for 25 years. Mr. Aldaba said it has already started commercial and residential developments.
Mall developer SM Investments Corp. has also waded into office construction with its 10-storey building for call centers and BPO, to be located at the SM Central Business Park in Bay City in Pasay.
Targeted for completion by third quarter of 2007, the building, dubbed the SM Call Center Building, will have a total floor space of 55,000 square meters on a 1.2-hectare piece of land.
Other emerging business districts include Greenhills in San Juan, Rockwell Center in Makati City, Aseana IT Business Park and AsiaWorld City along the Manila-Cavite Coastal Rd. Filinvest Corporate City in Alabang, Muntinlupa.
Districts to rise in attractiveness
"The trend has started and over the course of the next ten years these districts will become more attractive locations. I think the take-up will be gradual, over a 2.5- to three-year period, because it will be unlikely for tenants to flock too far away from Makati or Ortigas so soon. Decision makers do not like drastic change, gradual, until the critical mass is achieved," Mr. Leechiu said.
Office supply in the 14 emerging business districts is increasing. By 2007, it is expected that these districts will account for 13% of the total office supply in the country. Makati will get 62% and Ortigas Center will get 25%, he said. The figure is an increase from the current 9%, Makati City’s 61% and Ortigas Center’s 26%. The consolidated annual demand for office space in Metro Manila is pegged at 150,000 square meters per annum. Also, the emergence of these new business districts are expected to lead to a gradual decline in land values in Makati City and Ortigas Center as competition cuts into rental rates.
Office rental rates in Metro Manila are expected to peak in 2010 and 2011 but are expected to correct either in 2012 or 2013.
Prime buildings such as Ayala Triangle Tower One & Exchange Plaza, The Enterprise Centre, Philamlife Tower, and RCBC Plaza -- are now testing the P700 per square meter monthly lease, from P600 currently.
Grade A buildings are also trying to push up lease rates to P500 to P600 from P400 to P450. Grade A buildings in the Makati CBD are 6750 Ayala Avenue Office Tower, Philamlife Tower, and PBCom Tower while Grade A facilities in Ortigas Center are Antel Global Corporate Center, Discovery Center, and Wynsum Corporate Tower.
Current lease rates are significantly higher, almost 70%, from the P280 per square meter during the 1997 Asian financial crisis.
dcdr76 May 15th, 2006, 04:44 PM http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2006/may/16/yehey/business/20060516bus2.html
IN A BID to develop a city comparable to those in Singapore and Hong Kong, the Fort Bonifacio Development Corp. will spend billions of pesos on building the Bonifacio Global City.
Vincent Tan, FBDC director and Ayala Land Inc. (ALI) executive vice president, on Monday said the FBDC would spend P8 billion from its internal funds over a period of 20 years to implement the master plan for the 240-hectare city located in Taguig.
Of the P2 billion that FBDC has allocated for this year’s work, P600 million would be used for the construction of the city’s retail center, the Promenade, which will be opened in December in time for the Christmas season.
Last year, FBDC spent a little less than P1 billion for infrastructure development.
“The development’s focus is a 40-meter wide landscaped area that will be 500 meters in length and will be lined by stores and restaurants with the latest and most novel concepts,” Tan said.
Joel Luna, ALI assistant vice president, said the revision of the original plan, which featured a circulatory road network, into a new master plan caused FBDC to give up some six hectares of “saleable land” worth between P150,000 and P200,000 for every square meter.
However, Luna, said the original plan for the city center, if it were pursued, would have given rise to a number of problems such as numerous traffic choke points, odd-shaped lots and unevenly distributed access to parks and other amenities.
The new master plan introduces four new elements such as a road grid that would allow a more efficient traffic management, dedicated bus lanes for a smooth-running public transit loop, pedestrian walkways that conveniently link buildings to parking and transit systems, and a well-distributed and broadly accessible park areas to serve as focal points.
ALI and its partner, the Campos-led Evergreen Holdings Inc., have acquired the controlling stake in FBDC.
Tan revealed that the Singapore Embassy has recently bought a 2,000-square-meter in the city to build its new office, which is presently located in Makati City.
Besides the Singapore Embassy, some three to five embassies have signified interests to acquire lots in the area and build their offices there.
Meanwhile, ALI expects a 10-percent increase in its net income for the second quarter of the year.
Jaime Ayala, ALI president, told reporters that with the remittances from overseas Filipino workers fueling the continued growth in the real estate sector, key interest rates have been kept low and confidence in the government in its effort to improve fiscal position is renewed.
ALI recently announced that its net income for the first three months of the year reached P1.28 billion from P1.233 billion in the same period last year.
Ayala International (AI), a wholly owned subsidiary of Ayala Corp. engaged in real- estate development outside the Philippines, is looking for some partners to help it develop projects abroad.
AI has projects in the United States, Thailand, Hong Kong and Singapore.
_zner_ May 16th, 2006, 04:04 AM i cant wait for the promenade!!!
thomasian May 16th, 2006, 05:48 AM ^^ Here's Promenade... construction now in fulll swing!!!
All pictures taken 05.14.06
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SoMa - Rising really fast!!!... also 05.14.06
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HSBC
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Serendra (Northern end)
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Fairways
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boju May 16th, 2006, 05:58 AM By December matatapos na yan, kakaibang experience naman sa Global city.
ryanr May 16th, 2006, 06:51 AM wow...all those u/cs are quickly progressing. thanks guys.
Your Sky May 16th, 2006, 07:05 AM Message me if you wanna hear more about it.... =) Its irght in the heart f the beautiful masterplan of Bonifacio Global City.
Your Sky May 16th, 2006, 07:07 AM How do I post pictures? :weirdo:
_zner_ May 16th, 2006, 07:27 AM ^^ tinypic.com copy & paste the IMG.. ;)
_zner_ May 16th, 2006, 07:28 AM do you guys have the renderings for the promenade?
bustero May 16th, 2006, 08:03 AM P8-B new blueprint for Boni 'city center' unveiled
Posted: 2:51 AM | May 16, 2006
Elizabeth L. Sanchez
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FORT Bonifacio Development Corp. (FBDC), a joint venture of the Ayala group and Jose Campos Jr. of the United Laboratories group, announced Monday a new P8-billion blueprint for the "city center" of the 240-hectare Bonifacio Global City near the Makati business district.
The "city center" will form the physical core of the project and consist of high-tech offices, residential buildings, retailing outlets, and roads and walkways. It is bounded by 32nd Street on the north, 11th Avenue on the east, 26th Street on the south and 5th Avenue on the west.
The P8-billion financing program will cover 20 years and funded through internally generated cash and sale of lots, said Ayala Land Inc., one of the controlling partners at FBDC.
Ayala Land Fernando Zobel de Ayala, vice chairman of FBDC, said the new master plan for the 36-hectare "city center" would feature five critical elements: a road network with a grid layout that would allow for more efficient traffic management as opposed to the current design with a circular road network; ample parking spaces for current and future requirements; fully planned, integrated and managed transport system, such as dedicated bus lanes and pedestrian walkways that would make it easy to access and travel around the community; significant portions of land allotted for a number of landscaped areas that would make each reconfigured lot a piece of prime space.
"Our vision for (Global City) is that it will be a dynamic, thoroughly modern, district and community that will feature a mix of commercial, residential and retail land uses," Zobel de Ayala said.
Ayala Land executive vice president Vincent Tan said full implementation of the master plan would result in loss of saleable land area of more than six hectares. Lots in the area were last sold at P140,000 a square meter.
"In revising the master plan for the city center, we actually lost a significant amount of saleable land, not a decision any businessman makes lightly," Tan said. "But the plan we now have works better in all respects. Its rectangular street grid leads to reduced traffic congestion, more lots with regular shapes and better distribution of amenities. For all this, the loss of saleable land is a price we are quite willing to pay."
One of the anchor features of the new master plan is a P600-million retailing strip dubbed "Promenade," which will open in December. At 40 meters wide and 500 meters long, it is as wide as Ayala Avenue, the main street of the Makati business district, and will have more than 80 retail shops and restaurants.
Filadelfo Rojas, chairman of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority, overseer of the development of former military lands, including Bonifacio Global City, said a number of foreign embassies had expressed a desire to locate in Global City.
Ayala Land officials said the Singaporean embassy had acquired a 10,800-square-meter lot in Global City and construction of its new headquarters might start in the third quarter of the year. With INQ7.net
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renell May 16th, 2006, 08:04 AM that's a lot of bloody concrete blocks.
Francis20 May 16th, 2006, 11:59 AM now i see where Ayala is going!
not bad at all. so do we have to forget those elliptical roads now?
3cr May 16th, 2006, 12:28 PM my thoughts would be the neighborhoods will be divided this way...
orange - Bonifacio North
violet - University Park (the article says to contain schools and hospitals..)
red - Crescent West
blue - Bonifacio Center
green - Station Square East
cyan - Bonifacio South (this is in the BGC site)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/fbgcoldmasterplan_sections.jpg
now i see where Ayala is going!
not bad at all. so do we have to forget those elliptical roads now?
Yup looks like it Francis. Wala ng circular/elliptical roads based on the revised City Center Master Plan. What's interesting is that they said the circular roads are less efficient in promoting a smoother traffic flow which is why they were willing to sacrifice 6 hectares of land they could have otherwise sold at a premium to convert the circular park into a linear park with grid-type roadways (surrounding the city center) instead. Guess we'll just have to see if the end result is indeed more traffic friendly. I am also quite excited as to how the Promenade will turn out since this is essentially FBGC's City Center core, the main lifestyle and business district of Fort Boni. With Ayala's track record it's safe to say we can expect nothing short than spectacular, especially sa FBGC pa so siguradong bongga yan! :)
Btw Aaron, thank you much for posting those wonderful FBGC pics! :)
_zner_ May 16th, 2006, 01:42 PM parang ang tagal ng 20years... :D di ko lam kung buhay pa ko nun ah... :D
JAMAICUS May 16th, 2006, 01:45 PM Yes, I love the PROMENADE!!! If this keeps up, with FBGC being a lively CBD, soon, we'll just refer Makati as your old sleepy CBD...
ishtefh_03 May 16th, 2006, 01:45 PM P8-B new blueprint for Boni 'city center' unveiled
Posted: 2:51 AM | May 16, 2006
Elizabeth L. Sanchez
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FORT Bonifacio Development Corp. (FBDC), a joint venture of the Ayala group and Jose Campos Jr. of the United Laboratories group, announced Monday a new P8-billion blueprint for the "city center" of the 240-hectare Bonifacio Global City near the Makati business district.
The "city center" will form the physical core of the project and consist of high-tech offices, residential buildings, retailing outlets, and roads and walkways. It is bounded by 32nd Street on the north, 11th Avenue on the east, 26th Street on the south and 5th Avenue on the west.
The P8-billion financing program will cover 20 years and funded through internally generated cash and sale of lots, said Ayala Land Inc., one of the controlling partners at FBDC.
Ayala Land Fernando Zobel de Ayala, vice chairman of FBDC, said the new master plan for the 36-hectare "city center" would feature five critical elements: a road network with a grid layout that would allow for more efficient traffic management as opposed to the current design with a circular road network; ample parking spaces for current and future requirements; fully planned, integrated and managed transport system, such as dedicated bus lanes and pedestrian walkways that would make it easy to access and travel around the community; significant portions of land allotted for a number of landscaped areas that would make each reconfigured lot a piece of prime space.
"Our vision for (Global City) is that it will be a dynamic, thoroughly modern, district and community that will feature a mix of commercial, residential and retail land uses," Zobel de Ayala said.
Ayala Land executive vice president Vincent Tan said full implementation of the master plan would result in loss of saleable land area of more than six hectares. Lots in the area were last sold at P140,000 a square meter.
"In revising the master plan for the city center, we actually lost a significant amount of saleable land, not a decision any businessman makes lightly," Tan said. "But the plan we now have works better in all respects. Its rectangular street grid leads to reduced traffic congestion, more lots with regular shapes and better distribution of amenities. For all this, the loss of saleable land is a price we are quite willing to pay."
One of the anchor features of the new master plan is a P600-million retailing strip dubbed "Promenade," which will open in December. At 40 meters wide and 500 meters long, it is as wide as Ayala Avenue, the main street of the Makati business district, and will have more than 80 retail shops and restaurants.
Filadelfo Rojas, chairman of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority, overseer of the development of former military lands, including Bonifacio Global City, said a number of foreign embassies had expressed a desire to locate in Global City.
Ayala Land officials said the Singaporean embassy had acquired a 10,800-square-meter lot in Global City and construction of its new headquarters might start in the third quarter of the year. With INQ7.net
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read this kanina sa office, sa newspaper and dun my kasamang pic nila while looking at the model of city center...
LhexiMont May 16th, 2006, 02:31 PM Promenade din ba ang name nung sa may Greenhills ?
thomasian May 16th, 2006, 02:51 PM ^^ Yes, same name with the one in Greenhills. Pati yung former name ng bayfront ng MoA (PEA) Promenade din, buti na lang pinalitan na sya into (PRA) Esplanade matapos i-abolish ang PEA (Public Estates Authority) at palitan ng PRA (Philippine Reclamation Authority)
macky May 16th, 2006, 07:27 PM Allright!! Let's get that Promenade thingy going, 24/7. Hope they put several live band entertaiment bars ,playing funked-up jazz,guitar-pickin blues,doobie folkrock ,and then some.
I can envision the Promenade to be all jazzed-up atmosphere, lined with sleek neon display lights. Way cool!!!
Aaron, thanks for the updated pics.
bustero May 17th, 2006, 04:12 AM Yup looks like it Francis. Wala ng circular/elliptical roads based on the revised City Center Master Plan. What's interesting is that they said the circular roads are less efficient in promoting a smoother traffic flow which is why they were willing to sacrifice 6 hectares of land they could have otherwise sold at a premium to convert the circular park into a linear park with grid-type roadways (surrounding the city center) instead. Guess we'll just have to see if the end result is indeed more traffic friendly. I am also quite excited as to how the Promenade will turn out since this is essentially FBGC's City Center core, the main lifestyle and business district of Fort Boni. With Ayala's track record it's safe to say we can expect nothing short than spectacular, especially sa FBGC pa so siguradong bongga yan! :)
You mean to make up for the roads and parks they ate up in the development of Serendra and Market Market. Remember there were supposed to be public roads running through the property before they made it into a super block! Anyway let's hope they are correct in the traffic pattern studies.
sugbuanon May 17th, 2006, 05:00 AM PGMA gets first hand view of redesigned Global City
MANILA - Government efforts to attract more investors got a big boost when developers of Fort Bonifacio as a Global City presented to President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo last night a redesigned master plan that would make it comparable to those of Singapore and Hong Kong.
The President got a first-hand view of the revised plan of the Fort Bonifacio Development Corp. which will spend close to P8 billion over 20 years to make the 240-hectare Bonifacio Global City (BGC) in Taguig City a premier business district.
Joel Luna, Ayala Land assistant vice president, told the President that the envisioned business district will definitely attract foreign and local investors because it was designed with a "physical form that nourishes the spirit of creativity and passion."
The President led the launching of the new logo and master plan of the BGC titled: Grand Celebration of Passions: Rediscovering Bonifacio Global City.
Following the acquisition of a controlling stake in FBDC, partners Ayala Land Inc. and Evergreen Holdings Inc. together with the Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) and the City of Taguig, collaborated to give a grand makeover to the rising business district.
Luna, in his remarks, justified the need for a new master plan for BGC.
He recalled that upon takeover, Ayala Land realized that a circular road network would give rise to a host of problems including traffic choke points because of the odd-shaped lots.
The new City Center master plan will transform BGC into a premier business district that really works.
The revised master plan introduces four new elements: 1) a road network with a grid layout that would allow more efficient traffic management; 2) dedicated bus lanes for a managed public transit loop; 3) pedestrian walkways which comfortably and conveniently link buildings to parking and transit systems; and 4) well-distributed and broadly accessible park areas to serve as focal points.
"For investors, the plan ensures that value will accrue to every property since each one is adjacent to one or more amenities. At BGC, every lot will be a prime lot," Luna said.
One of the tangible benefits of the new master plan is an innovative retail development which will be launched later this year.
The development’s centerpiece is a 40-meter wide landscaped area that will be 400 meters in length and will be lined by stores and restaurants with the latest and most novel concepts.
OtAkAw May 17th, 2006, 08:01 AM I am dreaming of a place that is comparable to Times Square or Picadilly Circus with all the LCD Screens, plasma screens, neon lights and magnificent billboards and signages!
_zner_ May 17th, 2006, 08:03 AM ^^ i guess we have the same thoughts too.. :D
thomasian May 17th, 2006, 08:17 AM ^^ Why settle for "comparable" when we can have a better one, one that is unique, one that is... the Bonifacio Global City. hehe :)
_zner_ May 17th, 2006, 08:31 AM ^^ we have the same thoughts too! :D :D :D
3cr May 17th, 2006, 09:13 AM You mean to make up for the roads and parks they ate up in the development of Serendra and Market Market. Remember there were supposed to be public roads running through the property before they made it into a super block! Anyway let's hope they are correct in the traffic pattern studies. Bustero,
Actually, I just pulled the info from what they mentioned in the article...
P8-B new blueprint for Boni 'city center' unveiled
Posted: 2:51 AM | May 16, 2006
Elizabeth L. Sanchez
Inquirer
FORT Bonifacio Development Corp. (FBDC), a joint venture of the Ayala group and Jose Campos Jr. of the United Laboratories group, announced Monday a new P8-billion blueprint for the "city center" of the 240-hectare Bonifacio Global City near the Makati business district.
The "city center" will form the physical core of the project and consist of high-tech offices, residential buildings, retailing outlets, and roads and walkways. It is bounded by 32nd Street on the north, 11th Avenue on the east, 26th Street on the south and 5th Avenue on the west.
The P8-billion financing program will cover 20 years and funded through internally generated cash and sale of lots, said Ayala Land Inc., one of the controlling partners at FBDC.
Ayala Land Fernando Zobel de Ayala, vice chairman of FBDC, said the new master plan for the 36-hectare "city center" would feature five critical elements: a road network with a grid layout that would allow for more efficient traffic management as opposed to the current design with a circular road network; ample parking spaces for current and future requirements; fully planned, integrated and managed transport system, such as dedicated bus lanes and pedestrian walkways that would make it easy to access and travel around the community; significant portions of land allotted for a number of landscaped areas that would make each reconfigured lot a piece of prime space.
"Our vision for (Global City) is that it will be a dynamic, thoroughly modern, district and community that will feature a mix of commercial, residential and retail land uses," Zobel de Ayala said.
Ayala Land executive vice president Vincent Tan said full implementation of the master plan would result in loss of saleable land area of more than six hectares. Lots in the area were last sold at P140,000 a square meter. "In revising the master plan for the city center, we actually lost a significant amount of saleable land, not a decision any businessman makes lightly," Tan said. "But the plan we now have works better in all respects. Its rectangular street grid leads to reduced traffic congestion, more lots with regular shapes and better distribution of amenities. For all this, the loss of saleable land is a price we are quite willing to pay."
One of the anchor features of the new master plan is a P600-million retailing strip dubbed "Promenade," which will open in December. At 40 meters wide and 500 meters long, it is as wide as Ayala Avenue, the main street of the Makati business district, and will have more than 80 retail shops and restaurants.
renell May 17th, 2006, 10:12 AM ^^ Why settle for "comparable" when we can have a better one, one that is unique, one that is... the Bonifacio Global City. hehe :)
:cheers1:
well one thing it'll have up on Times Square is that it's all pedestrian, and maybe from Picadilly is that there'll be less annoying pigeons, though I guess that's each to their own opinions about pigeons. No traffic of the vehicular kind to contend with, I like it
LhexiMont May 17th, 2006, 10:26 AM The Promenade looks promising ... will it be a direct competitor of Greenbelt ?
thomasian May 17th, 2006, 10:38 AM ^^ :lol: I don't think Ayala Land will be positioning Promenade to compete with their other development which is Greenbelt. :hilarious
Lightspeed May 17th, 2006, 11:59 AM As I posted earlier, the Fort Bonifacio Global City Promenade will look like Ayala Avenue that has pedestrians walking the broad avenue instead of cars zooming around.
I've seen the plans and I can tell you that Ayala Land is truly aiming high with this showcase project of theirs.
The Fort Bonifacio Global City Promenade and the City Center will be a true City of the Future.
It is something that the Philippines will be really proud of.
dancethingy May 17th, 2006, 12:58 PM YAY, this project is great. It is reminiscent of the Chicago moto "make no small plans!!!" Its about time we Pinoys start to dream big!
_zner_ May 17th, 2006, 01:35 PM i hope the promenode will look futuristic and oozing modern!!
3cr May 17th, 2006, 11:36 PM Sana naman maging ganito kaganda ang landscaping ng Promenade sa FBGC. :)
Sana ganito kaganda ang mga landscape satin :D
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dancethingy May 18th, 2006, 04:25 AM ^^^^ 3CR, i think we can do much much better than that. We are a tropical country, we can add much more color and texture to our gardens.
marites4 May 18th, 2006, 04:35 AM parang hindi ata maganda yung landscaping dun sa picture ni 3cr he he
3cr May 18th, 2006, 06:18 AM parang hindi ata maganda yung landscaping dun sa picture ni 3cr he he
^^^^ 3CR, i think we can do much much better than that. We are a tropical country, we can add much more color and texture to our gardens. Wow if Ayala can do even better than that then all for the better for FBGC di ba? Hehehe...naku eh mas mataas pa pala ang expectations ninyo sa landscaping ng Promenade and City Center kaysa sa akin. That's great at sigurado talagang bongga at nakakabilib niyan ang FBGC kung masmaganda pa diyan ang kalalabasan. Can't wait for December to come so that we can all start enjoying the scenery as well as the shops, restaurants, and bars of course! FBGC will definitely be "The Place" to go! :righton:
OtAkAw May 18th, 2006, 07:59 AM Naisip ko lang, if ever FBGC City Center, the promenade thingy would become as successful as the Makati CBD, then the people who bought units at the Serendrad may have good fortune in the future. Imagine living so near an area where everything is just wow! It's like having a penthouse in Champs Elysee if placed in Metro Manila perspective!
gridloc May 18th, 2006, 11:18 AM hi! im quite new here at ssc forum. im a big fan of bgc. have you heard of a future project to be developed reportedly by lucio tan group. its called chateau de noble to be built at bgc. its a 43 storey condo project. ill update u with renderings.
bustero May 18th, 2006, 12:31 PM ^^
put it in the under construction and proposal threads.
Bustero,
Actually, I just pulled the info from what they mentioned in the article...
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Oh I know that, I was just being a little sarcastic re their seemingly magnanimous gesture:)
gasrock May 18th, 2006, 05:57 PM Naisip ko lang, if ever FBGC City Center, the promenade thingy would become as successful as the Makati CBD, then the people who bought units at the Serendrad may have good fortune in the future. Imagine living so near an area where everything is just wow! It's like having a penthouse in Champs Elysee if placed in Metro Manila perspective!
Let's not forget the people that bought at all of G&W projects and other residential projects nearing completion. For example take Grand Hamptons tower 1&2 which are 2 or 3 blocks away from the promenade. Walking distance to enjoy the beauty and convenience of the promenade but far enough not to be affected by possible issues like noise, traffic or parking. Best of both worlds.
So to those lurkers and fence sitters out there better move fast and start calling G&W or my really helpful broker www.realestatemovers.com
Francis20 May 18th, 2006, 06:22 PM hi! im quite new here at ssc forum. im a big fan of bgc. have you heard of a future project to be developed reportedly by lucio tan group. its called chateau de noble to be built at bgc. its a 43 storey condo project. ill update u with renderings.
please do. can't find any article about it on the web. :)
macky May 18th, 2006, 09:03 PM 43 storey??? But i thought that area is designated as FAR 8.
hi! im quite new here at ssc forum. im a big fan of bgc. have you heard of a future project to be developed reportedly by lucio tan group. its called chateau de noble to be built at bgc. its a 43 storey condo project. ill update u with renderings.
macky May 18th, 2006, 09:50 PM ^^^^ 3CR, i think we can do much much better than that. We are a tropical country, we can add much more color and texture to our gardens.
Wow, that's a very well-manicured landscape. I wanted to see though tall palm trees lining down the Promenade strip,para LA or Miami ang dating. As for the parks and mini-parks, i prefer something functional. A stroll garden with open bermuda grass lawn and sporadic plantings of shade trees.Also designed in a way that will give an aura of romance,art,play and relaxation, kind of like a small Central Park here in the big apple. :)
Dvorak May 19th, 2006, 05:29 AM must be a big lot then.. kaya pwede up to 43 storey..
43 storey??? But i thought that area is designated as FAR 8.
palawan_buddy May 19th, 2006, 05:32 AM i hope they'll have a unique design for the landscaping of BGC so that it will have a different identity. how about instead of palms, they put coconut trees? there are a lot of trees endemic in this country, i hope they utilize whatever we have here. palms are not associated with our country; besides, makati and alabang already have palms. i am thinkin of acasia, but thats a very big tree. palawan cherry is also beautifil in bloom, as well as kalachuchi and ilang-ilang.
_zner_ May 19th, 2006, 05:41 AM acacia tree is much better! ;)
KiBeN May 19th, 2006, 06:56 AM yah, i also like acacia trees, what do you call those trees which have redish orange flowers, and every summer ata, nagiging orange yung tree... hehe
thomasian May 19th, 2006, 07:15 AM i hope they'll have a unique design for the landscaping of BGC so that it will have a different identity. how about instead of palms, they put coconut trees? there are a lot of trees endemic in this country, i hope they utilize whatever we have here. palms are not associated with our country; besides, makati and alabang already have palms. i am thinkin of acasia, but thats a very big tree. palawan cherry is also beautifil in bloom, as well as kalachuchi and ilang-ilang.
I still like Royal Palms better than Coconut trees, they're bigger, longer (I mean taller :D ) and straighter than coconuts. And they look more stately. :)
Plus, you won't get any falling coconuts which could injure people. :lol:
Imagine taking a walk along the Promenade's park when suddenly, a coconut falls on you, and days later, you wake-up at St. Lukes BGC. :colgate: At least you get free buko juice. :hilarious
3cr May 19th, 2006, 08:03 AM Imagine taking a walk along the Promenade's park when suddenly, a coconut falls on you, and days later, you wake-up at St. Lukes BGC. :colgate: At least you get free buko juice. :hilarious Buti nga kung yung buko nandiyan pa when you wake up. Baka naman somebody else will enjoy the fruits of your labor instead! Hehehe... :)
thomasian May 19th, 2006, 08:09 AM ^^ Oh well, even if you don't get the buko juice, at least you'll get billeted in a world-class hospital just a few blocks away. :D Of course you'll also have to pay world-class fees after that. :lol:
c0kelitr0 May 19th, 2006, 08:22 AM i hope they'll have a unique design for the landscaping of BGC so that it will have a different identity. how about instead of palms, they put coconut trees? there are a lot of trees endemic in this country, i hope they utilize whatever we have here. palms are not associated with our country; besides, makati and alabang already have palms. i am thinkin of acasia, but thats a very big tree. palawan cherry is also beautifil in bloom, as well as kalachuchi and ilang-ilang.
i remember having seen a pic of a suburb in mumbai where the streets are lined with coconut trees...ang panget! it looks so cheap...
thomasian May 19th, 2006, 08:30 AM Even Westin and Roxas Blvd. may coconut tress. Pwede pa sa Roxas pero sa former-Westin (soon to be Sofitel Philippine Plaza), ang pangit, hindi bagay, panira sa landscaping ng poolside nila.
marites4 May 19th, 2006, 08:30 AM yeah but coconut trees are exotic and beautiful to foreigners. Palm trees are also very expensive outside the PHils.
_zner_ May 19th, 2006, 08:31 AM ang wild naman ng nasa isip nyo at coconut trees pa tlga.. :lol:
bustero May 19th, 2006, 09:30 AM tama si marites, tayo nababaduyan sa coconut tree because it's so ubiquitous but the same way mga puti type na type ang mga bar girls , natutuwa rin sila sa coconut tree. Of course puede ka talagang tamaan ng nahuhulog na coconut hehe
palawan_buddy May 19th, 2006, 11:38 AM yah, i also like acacia trees, what do you call those trees which have redish orange flowers, and every summer ata, nagiging orange yung tree... hehe
-- fire tree. maraming ganun sa palawan. its called fire tree bec when it blooms, the tree looks on fire.
if not coconut tree, how about buri :) . i photographed this from our lawn. there are lots of wild buri in palawan. (actually, dos palmas got its name from the two buri towing over the island)
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/palawan_buddy/CIMG0666.jpg
OtAkAw May 19th, 2006, 01:51 PM Kawawa naman si coconut, maraming may ayaw sa kanya. But I believe that coconuts must be limited to resorts and recreation places only, di masyadong photogenic kapag sa urban landscape nilagay. I was going to suggest some really good trees like the Red Maple, if they grow here. We've always been to preoccupied with tropical palms and coconuts, it's about time developers choose an alternative tree to design landscapes with.
amras May 19th, 2006, 05:11 PM I also prefer "real" trees being planted instead of palm tress or coconut coz I dont see the point if we use the latter. Aside from better landscaping, it doesnt serve any other purpose. They also tend to create a warmer feeling/environment. On the other hand, bigger trees looks more refreshing and greener and becomes better as they grow (just like those acacia lined trees at UPD). Plus they have more leaves to fight pollution (heheh) and cut some brances for firewood (hehehe).
marites4 May 19th, 2006, 06:39 PM coconut coconut coconut trees the real symbol of the tropics :cheer: :cheer:
macky May 20th, 2006, 12:26 AM -- fire tree. maraming ganun sa palawan. its called fire tree bec when it blooms, the tree looks on fire.
if not coconut tree, how about buri :) . i photographed this from our lawn. there are lots of wild buri in palawan. (actually, dos palmas got its name from the two buri towing over the island)
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/palawan_buddy/CIMG0666.jpg
Not that kind of palm tree, that's really ugly. More like the ones they planted around the swimming pool of Pacific plaza, the more typical ones.Or maybe that's a coconut. Acacia i really like too....a mature acacia tree will form a denser canopy and will better filter and freshen the air.
You know what's good idea too, a waterfountain works right smack in the middle of the center core to replace the scrapped-out circle park. Something ultra modern like they have in front of Market Market but more grand and gloriously lit at night.
Lili May 20th, 2006, 02:45 AM coconut coconut coconut trees the real symbol of the tropics :cheer: :cheer:
Coconut trees are beautiful. Look at this old picture of Malecon Drive along Roxas Boulevard. Baka ka nga lang tamaan ng buko sa ulo. ;)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/ECdoesit/MaleconDrive.jpg
junex May 20th, 2006, 03:34 AM ANAHAW is good for landscapping i think......at pambansang dahon pa ito...what ya think?
macky May 20th, 2006, 08:17 AM I wish somebody can also post pictures of the inner-landscaped pool and courtyard gardens of those already finished condominiums. Because of its size, i will be interested to see the landscape structure of Serrenda and Forbestown compound once it gets done.
amras May 20th, 2006, 01:14 PM ANAHAW is good for landscapping i think......at pambansang dahon pa ito...what ya think?
siguro sa mga courtyards ok ang anahaw, saka maganda din siyang fillers sa mga center islands.
Alitaptap May 20th, 2006, 08:45 PM I like the fire trees (especially when they turn red) in the Manila American Cemetery and I hope they plant more of them.
http://image36.webshots.com/37/6/31/60/280763160vUxZcf_ph.jpg
http://www.freshflowersblog.com/wp-content/firetree.jpg
3cr May 20th, 2006, 10:07 PM Actually as far as FBGC's City Center and Ayala's Promenade Commercial Strip is concerned, it will really be nice to have a botanical garden type atmosphere for landscaping as some of you have suggested but if they do end up doing this I hope FBGC/Ayala will also be able to maintain it properly for people to enjoy for many years to come kasi madalas nangyayari impressive sa umpisa and then it's downhill from there. In fairness Ayala's Greenbelt Mall is indeed an exception. As far as architecture of the Promenade, I really hope the structures surrounding this linear park will be as impressive or better yet even more impressive than their Greennbelt Mall counterpart. This way the whole spectrum of shoppers can be taken cared of starting with the affordable (Ayala's Market Market, and the future Robinson/SM malls) and progressing to the high end (Ayala's Promenade and Piazza as well as Megaworld's Forbestown Commercial Center). And what's great is FBGC is going to have a pedestrian friendly designed (for walking or public transport) City Center (CBD) so driving in and around FBGC will really be more of an option than a necessity for those who live and work there. So very convenient di ba. I don't think other CBD's including Makati nor Ortigas/Mandaluyong can claim to have such a featured ammenity (City Center/Promenade) of this beauty and magnitude. Buti na lang Ayala is the one developing it for FBGC since their track record speaks for itself. Whatever they decide to do siguradong maganda at bongga yan! Guess we'll see how the Promenade turns out soon enough. Sa December na yan di ba. :okay:
Raktak May 21st, 2006, 01:34 AM there are a lot of fire trees planted already in BGC as well as Eucalyptus...
macky May 21st, 2006, 01:43 AM Yeah,i'm a big fan now of the Ayala. Salute!!! :cheers:
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