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ryanr
March 21st, 2004, 03:14 PM
Our future CBD!! It currently has less than 10 highrises/skycrapers which are all residential. This well planned city of the future should boom in a few years time.

absent-minded
March 22nd, 2004, 08:26 AM
Does anyone still have that nice picture we had of FBGC with the Polo Club in the foreground and then Pacific twins behind?

3D Map (http://www.fbglobalcity.com/images/ctondrise.gif)

here's a rendering of what we should expect
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/pf1f46db30d5b5436ae64b5a9413b9182/f9444f35.jpg

MasterPlan
http://www.fbglobalcity.com/images/masterplan.gif

Pacific Plaza Towers
http://www.seapac-philippines.com/images/Pacific%20Plaza.jpg

Essensa Towers
http://www.pcf-p.com/a/p/9603/9603-1.jpg

Bonifacio Ridge
http://www.philonline.com.ph/~philprop/images/bonifacioridge/2towers.jpg

ryanr
March 22nd, 2004, 08:43 AM
Wow, nice. thats the first time i've seen that essensa rendering!!:D

Let me post the 3D map
http://www.fbglobalcity.com/images/ctondrise.gif

absent-minded
March 22nd, 2004, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by GreyX

Wow, nice. thats the first time i've seen that essensa rendering!!:D

Oh... I got it from I.M. Pei website. He was the architect right? I couldn't find any pictures. Are the Essensa Towers fully occupied? I want a unit!!! Hahaha... Love the design. Very unique - like all of IM Pei's other works.

ryanr
March 22nd, 2004, 08:50 AM
I dont know if it is fully occupied, but it is occupied.:D IF you want a unit, you would have to have lots of $$$$.... And i think all units are sold. Yes, IM Pei's buildings are gorgous.

Francis20
March 22nd, 2004, 10:41 AM
haha...ok, u want a unit at the penthouse? a 4-bedroom unit costs about Php 54 million. i think One Roxas Triangle is almost as expensive as that. the difference is...Essensa was sold out, ORT was not.

ryanr
March 22nd, 2004, 10:48 AM
Sayang naman ang ORT. It's such a wonderfully designed building. If its twin was built, they would have been a nice set of twins.

Francis20
March 22nd, 2004, 11:07 AM
no worry, someone told me that US Embassy employees are occupying the condo.

ryanr
March 22nd, 2004, 11:14 AM
hmmm...thats good. But too bad they wont build ORT II.:(

As you can see in the masterplan, only a little of BGC will be high rise residential. Most of it is mixed use, which is mostly skyscraper offices.:)

Just to get this thread moving, here are some of my old BGC pictures.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93bgc-from-air.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93p1010036.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93p1010034.jpg
ewww..look at McKinley's ugly side!!
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93p1010032.jpg
Ortigas Center from BGC
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93p1010035.jpg

Francis20
March 22nd, 2004, 11:39 AM
once again...nice photos...i like the areal photo...and the Ortigas photo. but the portays are always superb! i just wish they were clearer (the aerial) . i thought ur into a chartered plane just to take the photo.

ryanr
March 22nd, 2004, 03:21 PM
nah, havent got the money to do so...;) The glass was kinda dirty, so its not that clear.

weirdo
March 22nd, 2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by GreyX

Sayang naman ang ORT. It's such a wonderfully designed building. If its twin was built, they would have been a nice set of twins.

i agree. they coudlve been the nicest set of twins in the whole world. ok that was exag. :)

weirdo
March 22nd, 2004, 05:22 PM
i feel like posting my bad weatherd bgc pics. feel free to delete my post if you find them disgusting.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid79/p77c58cb0272b728f08263935a4097d82/fb10b48c.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid62/p9c916e9bf04f0555c53b5089baf5ea23/fc239ad9.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid79/p08a812251f4119bc4819ff846fa20400/fb10b489.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid79/p44f2c83be8eab4835a6d38d151842ff5/fb0f81fd.jpg

weirdo
March 22nd, 2004, 05:26 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid79/p97bdcdc8ea6325c28a6f71076148dcb3/fb0f81fb.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid79/p4e04d06cdaaf9316d301848395c47fdc/fb0f81f5.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid79/p0329f14968cbb20186039e9ad061d92c/fb0f81f9.jpg

sad na ito na nga ang closest area sa place ko sa makati ito pa ang pinakapangit at konti sa collection ko. hehe.

renell
March 22nd, 2004, 05:54 PM
i wonder when we'll start seeing tall skyscrapers, not just One Mckinley and Pacific Plaza, in BGC.

what was the building beside Essensa?

Francis20
March 23rd, 2004, 12:43 AM
That's Regent Parkway. I thought it was a slim tower.

ryanr
March 23rd, 2004, 05:45 AM
So currently there are 9 skyscrapers/highrises in BGC:
Pacific Towers 1 and 2
Essensa Towers 1 and 2
Regent Parkway
Bonifacio Ridge 1 and 2
One McKinley
Net One Centre

with Penhurst Place and Fairways u/c...Am i right?

Francis20
March 23rd, 2004, 08:32 AM
yes right!

let's add up Kensington Place to make it 3 u/cs
proposals include:

Fifth Avenue Place

anything more?

ryanr
March 23rd, 2004, 04:06 PM
Is the Pricesmart in BGC a temporary structure?? It kinda does look like one, but i doubt it is. I'm asking because it is right in the middle of BGC and might ruin the future outcome of the skyline.

absent-minded
March 23rd, 2004, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by GreyX

Is the Pricesmart in BGC a temporary structure?? It kinda does look like one, but i doubt it is. I'm asking because it is right in the middle of BGC and might ruin the future outcome of the skyline.

it's a warehouse type of thing. Like most of the Costco's in Canada and the U.S.

it can easily be torn down, I guess... but I think lotsa people wanna keep it there....

ryanr
March 23rd, 2004, 04:43 PM
Yeah i figured it can be easily torn down...Its one of those warehouse membership hypermarts... They can always move;)

renell
March 23rd, 2004, 06:08 PM
is it like those Wal-Marts? anyways i doubt them moving

bagel
March 23rd, 2004, 10:28 PM
http://www.geocities.com/mikerasalan/americancem.txt
A view from the American Cemetery.

Here's a classic shot. Eriq can post his title for this picture if he wants.

absent-minded
March 24th, 2004, 05:02 AM
wow... that place looks real nice. it's a bit hard for the scrapers to blend in with it though... what more if the place is surrounded by them in like 10 years??

weirdo
March 24th, 2004, 05:05 AM
i find them cool actually.

The Pride
March 24th, 2004, 07:32 AM
yeah.. its sooo clean and tidy.. :).. yea more skyscrapers are needed!:bleep:

Eriq
March 24th, 2004, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by boybaha

Here's a classic shot. Eriq can post his title for this picture if he wants.

"Dead American Soldiers and Skyscrapers"?

God, I'm still annoyed about the thread title change on that one. I know it was a little teeny weeny bit insensitive, especially considering the times, but I liked it and it was the truth. I didn't lie and I did not mislead. There were buried dead american soldiers and skyscrapers on the pictures that I posted. Oh well.

absent-minded
March 25th, 2004, 11:40 AM
Bonifacio Global City: the next growth area
from: Real Estate Movers (http://www.realestatemovers.com)

Bonifacio Global City (formerly known as Fort Bonifacio or Fort Boni) is poised to be the next growth area . Its strategic location is a big advantage for investors and end- users since Bonifacio Global City is bounded by 3 major roads: EDSA, C-5 and the South Luzon Expressway (SLEX). This makes the area very accessible from Paranaque, Alabang, and Laguna in the South; Quezon City in the North; and Antipolo City, and Rizal province in the East. It only takes 5 minutes to go to the Makati Central Business District via the Kalayaan flyover. The place is perfect for the mobile individual and for corporations which intend to set up office in the area.

The Bonifacio Global City has an excellent masterplan. Its features include:

1) Zoning of certain areas for schools, commercial developments, office buildings and residential condominium developments are strictly followed.

2) The road networks including traffic management are well planned.

3) Telecommunication facilities - Fiber optic cable network can accommodate the needs of high-technology industries.

4) Underground power line system

Several significant developments have occurred within the Bonifacio Global City in the last several years:

1) Relocation of the International School, Japanese School and British School in the area

2) Bonifacio Stopover - a commercial area composed mostly of food establishments

3) The Fort - another commercial area composed of fine and casual dining restaurants

4) Price Smart - membership warehouse store

5) MC Home Depot - specializing in hardware supplies

5) Presence of 2 automobile dealerships

6) Shell gas station

7) First-class office buildings catering to the Information Technology industry (namely, Net One Centre and HatchAsia Global Centre)

8) A nursing school located at the HatchAsia Global Centre

9) Presence of McDonald's and Seattle's Best Coffee Shop at the Forbestown Centre Commercial area (which will undergo further development)

10) Completed residential condominium developments (namely, Pacific Plaza Towers, Essensa, Regent Parkway, and One McKinley). The Bonifacio Ridge is 80% complete and will be turned over to unit buyers within the year.

11) Ongoing construction of Penhurst Place, a residential condominium development which will be turned over to buyers this year.

12) Ongoing construction of Market! Market! - a mall being developed by Ayala Land

Within the next few months, more activities are expected to take place in Bonifacio Global City:

1) Construction of the first 3 towers of the Forbeswood Heights Condominium project

2) Construction of Fairway Towers

3) Construction of Kensington Place

4) Construction of the St. Luke's Medical Centre

renell
March 25th, 2004, 01:54 PM
by looking at that, it seems that BGC will be more of a all-around community, rather than a new business district

Edmundtanso
March 25th, 2004, 08:50 PM
cool! BGC would be the new business/residential center of the philippines!

ryanr
March 26th, 2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by renell

by looking at that, it seems that BGC will be more of a all-around community, rather than a new business district

Yup, hence the name GLOBAL CITY...;) That doesnt worry me though, there is lots of land it is good it will be a cultural, technological and institutional center, apart from being the future CBD... It will be our new CBD of the future, but its more than just that, it will be the heart of MM:okay:

btw, thanks for that Lance.:)

ryanr
March 26th, 2004, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by absent-minded

wow... that place looks real nice. it's a bit hard for the scrapers to blend in with it though... what more if the place is surrounded by them in like 10 years??

Not really surrounded...skyscrapers will just be on one side. And the cemetery looks quite nice with skyscrapers in the background. That photo is amazing.

renell
March 26th, 2004, 05:17 PM
well residential or office, they're all skyscrapers, so what the hell:D

ryanr
March 26th, 2004, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by renell

well residential or office, they're all skyscrapers, so what the hell:D

but not all of them will be skyscrapers...cultural buildings will be short. and so will institutional. but thats ok, there is lots of space. but that pricesmart bothers me. It is warehouse looking and right in the middle of BGC...it doesnt look so nice and will interfere with the future developments...:D it is also quite big and takes up lots of land.

renell
March 26th, 2004, 06:01 PM
cultural buildings? what's that supposed to mean?:colgate:

ryanr
March 26th, 2004, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by renell

cultural buildings? what's that supposed to mean?:colgate:

theatres, museums, libraries (but that counts as institutional too), performance centers, art gallaries, technology centers, etc....

ryanr
March 26th, 2004, 06:24 PM
Look how big S&R Pricesmart is!! Taking up so much skyscraper land in the middle of BGC!:rant:
http://www.holmesds.com/vagabond/photos/pi/Makati02.jpg

renell
March 26th, 2004, 06:38 PM
yeah, museums there sounds like a good idea.

about pricemart, well it is a GLOBAL CITY, so it has to be all around.. i think that all around also invovles flat buildings;)

ryanr
March 26th, 2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by renell

yeah, museums there sounds like a good idea.

about pricemart, well it is a GLOBAL CITY, so it has to be all around.. i think that all around also invovles flat buildings;)

but it will make a gap in the skyline...:( plus, i dont want a warehouse structure in the middle of BGC, it just doesnt sound and look right.

Edmundtanso
March 27th, 2004, 01:34 AM
does the price smart warehouse builfing looks plain and simple?

well, are they leasing the land or they owned it? pretty sure they would demolish this warehouse and build a highrise once the demand is there...so it's okay for now :)

Edmundtanso
March 27th, 2004, 01:36 AM
i like the landscpaing of BGC btw. i like the uniform lined tress and the street light looks nice!

absent-minded
March 27th, 2004, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by Edmundtanso

i like the landscpaing of BGC btw. i like the uniform lined tress and the street light looks nice!

yup... and the "walkable" sidewalks... something that the rest of Manila desperately needs but lacks. Thank God for all the new economic zones being put up. like Filinvest/Alabang and those in Subic and Clark. They're the only ones that are actually planned well - with sidewalks and tree-lined streets and stuff... I mean, more than half our roads aren't even painted with the lines separating different lanes!

The should remove those orange and yellow/black dividers and put up center islands inside BGC as well as plant them with tress like they've done the sidewalks. That would look so nice! a lot of cities around the world are lined with trees which make them look a lot cleaner (that's if they're properly planted) and classier...

absent-minded
March 27th, 2004, 04:24 AM
oh yeah... all our government agencies should relocate to several skyscrapers insdide the BGC, just like what they did in Malaysia. I think it was Putrajaya or something where Mahathir Mohammed created a government center thing.

that would be so cool, and it would make our government look a lot better... all our current gov't offices look so run down already...

ryanr
March 27th, 2004, 04:50 AM
Originally posted by absent-minded

yup... and the "walkable" sidewalks... something that the rest of Manila desperately needs but lacks. Thank God for all the new economic zones being put up. like Filinvest/Alabang and those in Subic and Clark. They're the only ones that are actually planned well - with sidewalks and tree-lined streets and stuff... I mean, more than half our roads aren't even painted with the lines separating different lanes!

The should remove those orange and yellow/black dividers and put up center islands inside BGC as well as plant them with tress like they've done the sidewalks. That would look so nice! a lot of cities around the world are lined with trees which make them look a lot cleaner (that's if they're properly planted) and classier...

Yeah, exactly. These new places are very well planned and create a "First World" atmosphere. They are also well maintained and are always clean. I like the streetlamps in BGC, while i like the center median (island) of Filinivest lined with that oasis like plant which is sooo beautiful. Hopefully as we progress, more areas of MM will look like these.

I'm sure they will, absent. It is still the beginning of BGC and they will do everything they can to make it look amazing in the future when everything is getting developed.

ryanr
March 27th, 2004, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by absent-minded

oh yeah... all our government agencies should relocate to several skyscrapers insdide the BGC, just like what they did in Malaysia. I think it was Putrajaya or something where Mahathir Mohammed created a government center thing.

that would be so cool, and it would make our government look a lot better... all our current gov't offices look so run down already...

Nah, i think the government should stay in Manila and QC. Their classic rennaissance art deco buildings look pretty good already. They should just clean up the area around them.

bagel
March 27th, 2004, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by GreyX

Nah, i think the government should stay in Manila and QC. Their classic rennaissance art deco buildings look pretty good already. They should just clean up the area around them.

There were so many plans in the past to have a centralized government center. The area around Rizal Park was supposed to be the government center according to the original BUrnham plan for Manila. After WWII, the Batasang Pambansa Complex was supposed to be the centralized government center.

But poor follow-through with great plans has always been the curse here.

I think the government can move out of their existing buildings without demolishing those classics. They can just find new uses for them.

renell
March 27th, 2004, 10:16 AM
well spreading out their agencies all over Metro Manila isn't such a bad idea. :) but i seriously doubt government agencies in skyscrapers... espeically after 9/11.

ryanr
April 3rd, 2004, 05:10 AM
And thats why they shouldnt and wont move to BGC.

Edmundtanso
April 4th, 2004, 09:44 AM
guys have any info about serandra in BGC?

ryanr
April 4th, 2004, 11:20 AM
Well Ayala hinted about it being commenced this year...not sure if it was Serandra they were talking about.

Here's a map of BGC i found from the Metro Pacific website. Colors are quite confusing though.
http://www.metropacific.com/investor/map.gif

Edmundtanso
April 4th, 2004, 06:57 PM
thanks for that GreyX! could you please post BGC website =) thanks

ryanr
April 5th, 2004, 07:47 AM
Well the BGC website has been offline for a looong time now. They are still updating it. Its taking them ages though! http://www.fbglobalcity.com

renell
April 5th, 2004, 12:02 PM
man, i still have to go to BGC... anything interesting or something i should be looking there?

bagel
April 5th, 2004, 12:38 PM
man, i still have to go to BGC... anything interesting or something i should be looking there?

Hmm. I believe there's a Dencio's Grill somewhere in BGC and they make a very good sisig and crispy pata.

ryanr
April 5th, 2004, 01:30 PM
hehehe...I love grilled food, i'll check that out on June:)

renell, just go and see the residentials being built there. See if there is anything going on the Capital Place site (it is fenced but there i dont think it is u/c). And take a look at Market! Market! as well as Serandra's site.

renell
April 5th, 2004, 04:43 PM
ok. i'll do that.

Edmundtanso
April 6th, 2004, 12:55 AM
renell!
yeah check the site of "serendra" and take photos. try to go to BGC office also and get some info on upcomming projects, maybe get broshure and newsletter! thanks

ryanr
April 6th, 2004, 02:57 PM
Yeah, try going to the BCDA office near Pacific Towers. They let me in and showed me some sketches, renderings and maps. They dont allow you to take photos though. I was really hoping to see a 3D scale model of the whole Global City, but they didnt have any. But if you dont have time, you dont have to go there:)

Where is the serendra supposed to be located anyways? near Market Market? Eastern side of BGC?

rico
April 6th, 2004, 05:04 PM
Here's some information i got about Serendra. I actually got pictures too. I'll post them later. :cool:

Located right across Market! Market!, it will be a sprawling residential compound covering approximately 12 hectares. Inspired by the latest trends and innovations in architectural designs in Northern Europe and the United States, it will be the first of its kind in the Philippines. SERENDRA combines tranquil suburban living with the city’s modern conveniences. Award winning and world renowned Moore Ruble Yudell Architects and Planners collaborated with Ayala on the project. It is the firm’s first development in the Philippines.

The concept is that of garden residences, with an enormous 65% of the total area reserved for wide open spaces comprising of gardens, water fountains and organic landscape forms. What is more, that 65% does not even include the roads, sidewalks and pathways. The remaining 35% will be devoted to the residential units which will be offered in low, mid and high-rise buildings.

These buildings will be positioned in a circular cluster around a boulevard, which will be called the Promenade. The Promenade, a 20-meter wide (almost as wide as Paseo de Roxas) boardwalk will serve as a retail area as well as the dividing line that separates the compound into 2 districts.

So as not to spoil the serenity of this garden community, no vehicles will be allowed inside. Parking will be underground, accessed by entrances around the perimeter. There will also be designated drop off points for the residents. This is all to ensure the peacefulness and tranquility of the garden themed environment.

ryanr
April 6th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Cool...sounds dreamy:D Sounds like it will be truly world-class. Looking forward to seeing renderings. Any info on when it will start construction?

ryanr
April 6th, 2004, 05:09 PM
I hope by saying they will be offered in low, mid and highrise; they mean highrise as in really tall:D

rico
April 6th, 2004, 05:10 PM
Cool...sounds dreamy:D Sounds like it will be truly world-class. Looking forward to seeing renderings. Any info on when it will start construction?
Construction will commence 3rd quarter of this year and is slated for completion by 2nd quarter of 2007.

Hehehe. :cool:

ryanr
April 6th, 2004, 05:11 PM
Cool! Thanks. Its in the not-so-distant-future:okay:

Edmundtanso
April 7th, 2004, 01:54 AM
yeah i saw the website of the architect from california and their designs are awesome!

rico, please post the photos soon =) excited to see it! thanks

rico
April 7th, 2004, 03:37 PM
here are the pictures. ;D
http://www.geocities.com/eipangan/images/serendra_040407_01.txt

http://www.geocities.com/eipangan/images/serendra_040407_02.txt

http://www.geocities.com/eipangan/images/serendra_040407_03.txt

http://www.geocities.com/eipangan/images/serendra_040407_04.txt

http://www.geocities.com/eipangan/images/serendra_040407_05.txt

Enjoy! :cool:

ryanr
April 7th, 2004, 03:44 PM
Nice!! Sounds so lush, relaxing and luxurious!:cool:

"Terraced sections of 6 to 9 floors gradually spiraling to taller sections in later phases" Errrr, they dont give specifics!! I wanna know how tall. Too bad they dont give any renderings to the buildings. Oh well, project still sounds very promising.

Looks like this project will create a lot of dead end roads as there is only one road that goes through the site. Look at the difference of the number of roads in the west side of BGC compared to the east side...

Thanks, Rico:)

Thunderflip
April 8th, 2004, 03:26 AM
These residential highrises and subdivision developments look very modern and pretty but what worries me is that they take up so much space.Hopefully,there will be enough space left for the malls,highrises,banks,theatres etc.

It is hard to make a vision of what BGC will loook like in the future...still, I am so happy coz if Berlin has its Potzdamer Platz and Paris has La Defense,then we will have our Bonifacio Global City in the future!

absent-minded
April 8th, 2004, 06:39 AM
hahahaha.... Serendra looks nice. I like the architecture of the low rise condos. They're like half Pinoy and half american to me. a lot of the new low-rise condos being built here in Richmond (somewhere near Vancouver) look a lot like that and are only 3 to 6 storeys high.

renell
April 8th, 2004, 03:43 PM
These residential highrises and subdivision developments look very modern and pretty but what worries me is that they take up so much space.Hopefully,there will be enough space left for the malls,highrises,banks,theatres etc.

It is hard to make a vision of what BGC will loook like in the future...still, I am so happy coz if Berlin has its Potzdamer Platz and Paris has La Defense,then we will have our Bonifacio Global City in the future!

i think you have to realize that most banks are settled in Makati CBD, therefore office demand in BGC is lower than what you would expect. so the residential buildings use this wide land of greenery. while there is still space in the ground, they will try and use that up. that is also why the latest BGC residential arent so tall.

Thunderflip
April 8th, 2004, 04:24 PM
I want to see renderings of the skyscrapers that will be built in the center,the future downtown.I've never seen a rendering of One Capital Place, or was it those sharp silver buildings that were once posted here?So there won't be a lot of office buildings in BGC?

ryanr
April 8th, 2004, 05:45 PM
Well we BGC is getting several tall residentials. Of course, not all projects will be "tall". Really depends on the developer, market atmosphere, demand and design ideas. I think there is still lots of room for office skyscrapers in BGC and there will be future investors willing to build their office in BGC. Many banks will build additional offices in BGC (or a new HQ) and there are many other firms capable of building scrapers.

ryanr
April 8th, 2004, 05:45 PM
All BGC requires is time....Lots of time

ryanr
April 8th, 2004, 05:50 PM
Thunderflip, there will definitely be many, many office skyscrapers in BGC. Much more than Makati and Ortigas. The land area is more than 3 times larger than the Makati CBD. All it needs is time.

Yes, Capital Place was that silver edgy skyscraper. I cant find it now, i've lost the renderings since the hack.

Edmundtanso
April 8th, 2004, 07:39 PM
i beleive once we have a clean election and the right president, the construction boom would continue.

btw, smart, sunlife plan to have thier HQ in BGC.

Edmundtanso
April 8th, 2004, 07:49 PM
Sunlife HQ BGC
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/2206279-L.jpg

Capital 1
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/2703331-L.jpg

http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/2703332-L.jpg

renell
April 8th, 2004, 08:09 PM
while BGC has more land area than Makati CBD, it has a lot of greenery, and not all of those will be used for skyscrapers. it will be used for landscaping, gardens, etc. that imo is the biggest difference between BGC and Makati CBD


there was also a 172m proposal for the Pioneer Insurance building. i havent heard from it

Edmundtanso
April 8th, 2004, 08:16 PM
yeah, BGC won an award for "best master plan" few years ago for the architect HOK, it's just funny it's not even on their website =( BGC is a very well planned community! just hope they would stick with the original zoning

renell
April 8th, 2004, 09:00 PM
it's beautifully planned indeed. now this isnt just a fast boom, so i believe we have to wait until, hmmm... ryan gets old? :D

Edmundtanso
April 8th, 2004, 09:15 PM
=) well, if the economy keeps up or gets better, we will see a lot od development in BGC because makati, ortigas have hardly any vacant lot to build anymore.

absent-minded
April 8th, 2004, 10:55 PM
yup... they have to stick with the original zoning and master plan of the city for it to become truly world class. every american city is planned out into different zones for different types of facilities and that's what makes them work so well. Manila would've been as great as one of these cities if only planners had stuck to the Burnham plan.... hopefully, the people behind BGC will be able to stick to the very well planned city they have in mind...

Edmundtanso
April 8th, 2004, 11:48 PM
yeah i hope also, eventhough the behind the BGC have sold a lot of their land to other developers. they should also make sure they keep the open areas as zoned! we dont like it to be like makati or ortigas where it's like a concrete and glass jungle. well, atleasts makati have the open area where the tower 1 is.

absent-minded
April 9th, 2004, 10:04 AM
yeah... I forgot about the open spaces... the masterplan has quite a bit of space for parks and stuff... that is what Manila really lacks but needs. it helps make the city look cleaner while at the same time better. the renderings above look nice with the densely tree-lined streets and open grassy areas. I agree.... makati and ortigas are nice from skyline level, but at street-level, they look almost as bad as any other part of manila.filinvest, FBGC, Clark and Subic al look great right now with not too much development.

renell
April 9th, 2004, 12:22 PM
=) well, if the economy keeps up or gets better, we will see a lot od development in BGC because makati, ortigas have hardly any vacant lot to build anymore.


actually they still have quite a number more lots, especially in Ortigas.

thomasian
April 9th, 2004, 01:46 PM
Hey guys, is there any way to upload a movie here
because I have a movie of BGC's masterplan :?

If it's not possible then i'll just capture significant parts of the movie and post them here.

Francis20
April 9th, 2004, 02:39 PM
cool, u have the vid? what about uploading it at imagestation? then let us have the access. you got the vid of masterplan...? i got the hardcopy of the plan. i mean that one presented at the Taguig government, something. tells what to be developed where.

thomasian
April 9th, 2004, 04:23 PM
Okay, it's in avi format and it's 4.20mb.
Can it be uploaded to imagestation :?

thomasian
April 9th, 2004, 05:28 PM
Imagestation won't accept the video so I'll just upload captures of the video.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p31f6abaa8475fbf1c3d7588aaeb19e5e/f9146a61.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p638dc610a24d44de26b1715a4f97b9db/f9146a88.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p6345112071110b9ce75b3585f4936b1b/f9146a5a.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pdde45bc3ed78c8e57ae5c343b9d23ff8/f9146a7a.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p2954dcb3486aa09b3e1a0b2f48ca200e/f9146a5f.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pf3aa376a127ce037d8c2d440a333463f/f9146a76.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p2f47c607eb50a75b8387ba352826de1e/f9146a72.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pfdc542b99cb616c1c9583c74128b4a0f/f9146a56.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pc43e7659c43f00002fb73609c6a41a26/f9146a65.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pb7df65a219e982e6748d5f2955e1d25d/f9146a5b.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p5fb7af5342ea09a55e7d5fd41f208383/f9146a83.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pb995145282c5870140961f8874285bcc/f9146a5e.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pd6798df5b0950e9029953457159cc230/f9146a52.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p2e78d7f9efb4ae158452b7eb567f26c1/f9146a6e.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pda568197ec5a1721e7edc7be1844ede3/f9146a81.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p2d59cc915327de99fcf089c8b9c5bcb2/f9146a8b.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pa20e2779289c180aa5dff0d3393cd476/f9146a68.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p874ce66fe0750bc54f5e61b35bc34d52/f9146a58.jpg

These are just the 1st installment i'll post the other half after I get Windows Media Player to work.

Edmundtanso
April 9th, 2004, 07:03 PM
thanks for that thomasian! that's awesome! now i could imagine the whole area better, i also see where serendra would be.

rico
April 9th, 2004, 07:17 PM
nice. hey. i think i saw that video on philippine tv before. i want a copy. where did you get it? maybe you can post it on yahoo files. :cool:

Edmundtanso
April 9th, 2004, 07:35 PM
i want it be thomasian! =)

thomasian
April 9th, 2004, 07:46 PM
How do I use that yahoo files thingy :?

Edmundtanso
April 9th, 2004, 08:05 PM
hm...i dont know. do you have yahoo account?

ryanr
April 10th, 2004, 07:32 AM
it's beautifully planned indeed. now this isnt just a fast boom, so i believe we have to wait until, hmmm... ryan gets old? :D

:lol: then Francis and Queetz will be :ancient:
If that is the meaing of lots of time, then yeah. But for sure it will take less than that;)

Imo, Makati is better planned than Ortigas because they have more parks. And better avenues.

ryanr
April 10th, 2004, 07:36 AM
:eek2: sweet video clips, thomasian! I've always wanted to see that video, but it doesnt work in my internet connection. This is the next best thing. See what i mean, despite all the great open parks, we will still have a dense skyline. There is a lot of room for skyscrapers. I'm sure the developers will stick to the masterpan and zoning partitions.

BGC Global City will be our greatest future landmark.

rico
April 10th, 2004, 03:39 PM
hm...i dont know. do you have yahoo account?
yes. then visit http://briefcase.yahoo.com :cool:

thomasian
April 10th, 2004, 04:06 PM
Here's the last installment of the video.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p7e33e1204af15a3fc15e4e2ab3f7f56b/f9143366.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p58cec6e17ce03c9470ec42e31040bd8f/f914336d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p17670669a46dc3522987d44d47c56e9d/f9143360.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p238e92b95ce02cb8e5efb4359c9d8913/f914317e.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pd4ffaa56d37a189ccb1d1aab7f002857/f9143363.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p44ef878fc52e680dbd4b480279fedfee/f914336b.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pc42183d5ae356a664e8896b62a0629a4/f9143368.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pbf5406d99540a4d93642bdc96b8cc15b/f9143353.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p97351cf12c8de97be6b6418e2994746d/f9143359.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p8da0c7004e025f360254f4cf0d0f8934/f9143357.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p913b105a41d7491162bee5a382169b01/f914336c.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pc06bf46fae5b72e3e1b6b2ed46dda5ab/f9143362.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/p1f538a147a3904705e5455c2c9cd10a1/f914335f.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid110/pb050dc63a4df4b31910f13750b8ee223/f914335c.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p74ffe47a3365054e565aaf99711df208/f9125e55.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p2d3185d51f575555dc3d8801eeb1cd25/f9125e70.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/pc8c1ff4ffcc691bf93f0d044eb21de5a/f9125e4a.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p5bf2dfa51085022de25d67d89fc236a4/f9125e69.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p9f78370021e698aacdd4da7e63567300/f9125e53.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p5c6a5af8ffc48b612fca822232d3e5ff/f9125e67.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p24711ca022b3b104a5f08e08722b8779/f9125e62.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p488c603148b655f5ccf2ec3354f3783d/f9125e48.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p0bab9e77fba106b6b54d12f1cc52a59d/f9125e58.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/pa64ad58ec3110d7fa9b466aa1d799440/f9125e4d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p5bac2d7300a2c22b975251a395f98940/f9125e6e.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p61a1612e90f20264939c2fd7447c4ba4/f9125e50.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p49fcaf6b3732912ce3cfaf0b2ef95a49/f9125e47.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p5957a11864f08597cdf7a10f0ec87b0f/f9125e5f.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p540963dfc8a427e09b431b94f4727793/f9125e6d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p19871531cf65ee650d87d43277234704/f9125e71.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p08c4cd1d11a80aea78e96899973ba261/f9125e5b.jpg

weirdo
April 10th, 2004, 06:00 PM
nice. thanks for sharing thomasian.

thomasian
April 10th, 2004, 06:28 PM
I forgot to greet you.

Happy Birthday :colgate: :weirdo:

weirdo
April 10th, 2004, 08:08 PM
thanks!

absent-minded
April 10th, 2004, 08:51 PM
WOW!!! the future of the FBGC look absolutely great!! its so cool how the skyscrapers are zoned out to form sort of a cross with the huge park right in the middle!! and the densely tree-lined streets look nice!!! they should turn that open area in the middle into something like the famous Central Park of NY...!

Edmundtanso
April 10th, 2004, 09:48 PM
awesome!

ryanr
April 11th, 2004, 03:55 AM
Awesome!!:cool: great final installment. Those dummy buildings dont look bad, either:D Skyline is so dense!

Absent, that central park circle isnt that big...quite big but not as big as Central park;)

renell
April 11th, 2004, 06:25 PM
looks nice but i hope it will be better, all i see are boxes.

Edmundtanso
April 11th, 2004, 09:20 PM
oh yeah, that was a presentation on how it would look once it's developed!

ryanr
April 12th, 2004, 03:53 AM
looks nice but i hope it will be better, all i see are boxes.

of course they are all boxes!! It was BGC that made that video, they are just filling up the place with buildings as a rough estimation of how the skyline will look like. They will not build all the buildings in BGC, thats the role of developers and corporations.

renell
April 12th, 2004, 04:26 AM
i didnt see Pacific Plaza or One Mckinley there. but probably the modem was so slow i didnt bother waiting for all the photos to appear

ryanr
April 12th, 2004, 01:26 PM
Yes they are there. In the first few clips.:)

Edmundtanso
April 12th, 2004, 10:44 PM
does anyone know if all the roads in BGC are paved already? how about the circular park in center, is that built already?

ryanr
April 13th, 2004, 12:18 PM
Some roads are paved, most are not yet. The center circle is not yet a park. It is basically and open area just like the most of BGC.

Edmundtanso
April 13th, 2004, 09:21 PM
thanks greyX, they should do the parks now so after few years the tress have matured

ryanr
April 14th, 2004, 01:25 PM
I know. They should have already planted the trees and plants in the parks and roadside areas, to give them time to mature. But i guess they will only do that when BGC really gets going. Then they would have to plant trees that are already quite big.

Edmundtanso
April 15th, 2004, 03:59 AM
also i heard the developer of BGC been loosing money for years already, but they are doing better

renell
April 15th, 2004, 06:27 AM
i wasnt able to go to BGC for the two weeks. that sucks

but isnt Ayala now the developer of BGC, after Metro Pacific sold it?

ryanr
April 15th, 2004, 12:30 PM
Yes. Metro Pacific was loosing a lot of money, so Ayala bought the majority share of BGC. Now, Ayala is developing BGC.:okay: But Metro Pacific nowadays is doing great.

ryanr
April 17th, 2004, 06:34 AM
Capital Place, BGC
Future home of the Philippine Stock Exchange, tons office space and The Grand Hyatt Manila. Designed by SOM

http://www.lera.com/capitalplace.JPG
http://www.lera.com/capital3.JPG
http://www.lera.com/capital2.JPG

Thanks to style for finding these pics again and re-posting them:)

ryanr
April 17th, 2004, 06:35 AM
Wait am i wrong about SOM designing this? More like LERA.:D

renell
April 17th, 2004, 12:26 PM
those designs imo are dull, especially for a building host to the Stock Exchange and a Hyatt

ryanr
April 17th, 2004, 12:30 PM
Imo, they are really nice. Edgy, modern, sleek and powerful looking. I like it:)

renell
April 17th, 2004, 12:35 PM
given the fact that it's home to PSE and a Grand Hyatt,it could be better. thats my opinion. improve it!!

ryanr
April 17th, 2004, 12:42 PM
Well it still isnt u/c (was supposed to be finished this year!!) so we could see an improvment when it starts. Any idea when it starts, btw? I like this project, they should really get on with it. Maybe they are still waiting for an office demand boom.

renell
April 17th, 2004, 01:01 PM
well yeah i was only referring to the renderings. but i think there's a high chance that'll be changed. it's not really that detailed.

ryanr
April 18th, 2004, 02:05 PM
True. When they build they will add more detailing. How many storeys is Capital Place again? And how many buildings? They will occupy quite a large area of BGC.

ryanr
April 23rd, 2004, 01:33 PM
Earlier posted by Francis20.

what about talking about these restrictions at FBGC. if u could find some more details at the net, good! i know some of u have read this before.
what ive read applies to the University Park since this, according to
the article has a detailed masterplan. It's less likely to have
amendments. unlike the other Sections of global City.
Here's some excerpt taken from that long Article.
And hey, this applies only to the University Park, but i guess there are also restrictions/provisions for the other parts.
if this is so, then i now know why Pacific Plazas look the way they do,
and One McKinley, Regent Parkway etc. in other words, that explains
the whole story why existing towers at Fort Boni look the way they
do and are located on places they are right now. ive pasted only the Section 5. but the other sections are equally interesting to read.

SECTION 5. ARCHITECTURE AND URBAN DESIGN

The objective in drawing up Design Standards and Guidelines is to
encourage the creation of a visually interesting and stimulating
environment, with varied architectural forms and a level of detail that constantly delights occupants and visitors alike.
5.1 BUILDING CHARACTER
5.1.1 Building character is created by use of a range of exterior
visual patterns expressed through cornices, columns, glazing and
variations in massing, colors, texture, and materials, etc. In
identifying a particular character for a building, it is important that
facades should employ different but related architectural elements so
as to create harmony but avoid repetition and monotony.
5.1.2 The expression of building character should include horizontal
and vertical banding and rhythm; lintel, cornice and molding and the
organization of glazing, etc. Comparable and compatible design
details should be employed on all sides of the building. Vernacular
architecture is encouraged to reflect the culture of the Philippines. In
addition, the design of a building should respond to the local climate
in both its overall form and materials used.
5.2 BUILDING MATERIALS
5.2.1 Buildings and other improvements, including landscaping,
lighting and signage must be consistent with and blend with the
character of the particular local environment in which they are
located.
5.2.2 Environment-friendly materials shall be used for all the
buildings. External reflective glass should be clear with a maximum
outdoor reflectance of 20% and the shading co-efficient of 0.3 or
anything with an equivalent performance in terms of reflectivity and
energy efficiency.
5.2.3 The external finish materials of any building constructed on the
lot shall be capable of easy maintenance and shall be of such color,
type and materials, as shall be permitted in writing by the Declarant.
5.2.4 The actual specific minimum construction(s) cost of buildings
may be determined by the Declarant in supplemental declarations to
these Design Standards and Guidelines that it may issue from time to
time.
5.3 FAÇADE
5.3.1 All building walls, including parking structures, shall be
designed with sufficient architectural details as to create identity
while still in harmony with the buildings/developments in immediate
vicinity.
5.3.2 Buildings should provide for a hierarchy of horizontal and
vertical expression and patterns that should relate to the particular
form and proportion of a building. The purpose of detailing is to
create consistency among the building frontage and other
architectural features, such as the building entrance, corner, and
variation in setback, etc.
5.3.3 The main entrance to a building should be clearly defined by its
size and form as well as in the use of colors, texture, materials and
lighting.
5.3.4 Relentless grids and "eggcrate" fenestration shall be avoided.
5.3.5 Balconies are allowed and encouraged.
5.3.6 To preserve the serenity and “green character” of the
University Park, the following guidelines apply to all buildings:
a. All plumbing and other pipeworks of any building constructed on
the lot shall be embedded or concealed accordingly. For gas pipes,
concealment should provide for free vent.
b. Utilities and equipment on roofs must be visually screened from
top and sides with appropriate treatments that conform with the
building design.
c. Vehicles in parking structures shall not be visible from both the top
and the sides. Open/transparent areas should not exceed 50% of the
parking structure openings.
d. Retail outlets shall not be visible from any public road. Within the
building where such outlet(s) are located, unifying elements with
respect to signage, graphics, awning and lighting etc. should be
adopted.


and this thing interesting ive read...the height of structures goes
taller as it approaches the Global City Core. so if this is also true on
the residential section, then expect to see a lot of "domes." but
maximum height at university park is only 60 m above sea level. so
that's about 20 storey high.
and if this dome will be followed at that Part where Pacific Plazas are,
that might explain why the Boni Ridge midgets are shied away to the edge, while One McKinley is just nearby. I dunno what happened to Net One Center. And that might also explain why this cluster of
Essensa and Regent Parkway are of the same heights. towers of the
same heights must be grouped together into one cluster, etc etc...

ryanr
April 23rd, 2004, 02:21 PM
I love those regulations! It sure will make the BGC skyscrapers look great. I guess thats why the existing and u/c buildings in BGC are well-designed. Even boxy designs are getting good facades:okay:

If the center is where the tallest skyscrapers are, we should expect many of the office towers being built there. There is a high chance of the tallest skyscrapers in the country being built there.:applause:

These regulations are sure to make the skyline a showcase one! And from streetlevel, BGC would be a modern and beautiful city!:cool:

I really hope the economy improves a lot so that we may see BGC go up really soon.

ryanr
April 23rd, 2004, 04:10 PM
From DCCD:

http://www.dccd.com/images/landdevfort.jpg

This model is outdated but still is good reference. Serandra will occupy basically the whole left side (right of Market Market!, bottom of international schools) on this model.

renell
April 23rd, 2004, 06:17 PM
old model indeed. with that one, i don't see Serendra. and there's just too much talls there. the way it's going, i don't see -that- much talls, but still sufficient to make another imposing skyline in MM

Edmundtanso
April 23rd, 2004, 09:31 PM
greyx
i think serendra is on the lower right?

guys have a photo of market market? is this like a greenhills mall? is it built? thanks

ryanr
April 24th, 2004, 04:16 AM
I will take pics of Market Market later on this June.

From C-5 highway, there is a a big lowrise white building right? That is supposed to be Market Market. Across the street from it to the left is Serandra. That model is old, so they dont show Serandras low rises, parks, mid rises and highrises. Instead the just placed a bunch of boxes.

apiong
April 26th, 2004, 08:59 AM
I will take pics of Market Market later on this June.

From C-5 highway, there is a a big lowrise white building right? That is supposed to be Market Market.

its exterior is actually color peach (I think it's color peach)...

http://www.ayalamalls.com.ph/othermalls/index.asp (see bottom of page)

Jerico_08
April 26th, 2004, 09:32 AM
Market!Market! will surely be one of the biggest indoor shopping center in Asia! I'm so excited to see this place opened

ryanr
April 26th, 2004, 12:53 PM
its exterior is actually color peach (I think it's color peach)...



Yeah i know...but in that model it is white:D The actual things has some orange too. Should be a pretty good mall...:okay:

absent-minded
May 3rd, 2004, 01:48 AM
Market! Market! looks and sounds like another great mall by Ayala, but it somehow makes me feel it'll bring so much unwanted traffic into BGC and C5 like Megamall, Shangri-la, Araneta Center and Robinsons have all done to EDSA...these have repeatedly been cited as major zoning flaws and yet new malls have continued to sprout up along many other major highways and even expressways... i hope I'm wrong and luckily, the people behind BGC have thought it all out already...

ryanr
May 3rd, 2004, 06:47 AM
Yeah they did. There are well built ramps from C5 and the road infrastracture in that area is good. So the mall shouldnt have much impact on the traffic flow.

weirdo
May 3rd, 2004, 10:32 AM
i dun like the colour of market!market! sa labas. sana maganda sa loob. bukas na ba ito? and kung hindi pa kailan ito magbubukas? salamat po.

ryanr
May 4th, 2004, 03:03 PM
I like the exterior color of Market! Market! Its funky. I also like the exterior design. I'm looking forward to its opening. Which is in July or August. I wanna go inside. I'll take pics when im there.

akaflores
May 5th, 2004, 02:00 AM
Anybody has any comments on up and coming Robinson Land Corp. condo bldg called Fifth Avenue Place? I have heard many accolades and articles - well-designed, reasonable price, good location. Preselling for turnover 2008.

Any comments is appreciated.

absent-minded
May 5th, 2004, 02:48 AM
I like the Fifth Avenue Place's design - at least from the renderings. looks pretty classy to me. a lot like Fairways Towers though. both are pretty nice though. guess it's just a little lower end compared to Fairways...

akaflores
May 5th, 2004, 02:51 AM
Thx. for a quick reply. Is it under construction na?

ryanr
May 5th, 2004, 07:15 AM
I dont know if it is underconstruction, maybe Francis can tell you that. But from the renderings, its a pretty nice condo. Are you interested in buying a unit? If so, you've made a good choice.

akaflores
May 5th, 2004, 07:37 AM
Thx. for the response. Yes I am seriously considering buying a 2-br for 5.2M (5.6 - 200000 discount). I am an expat from California. I have to check if I can buy (30%-40%-30%) installment and the protocol.

I have been researching and after Ayala Land, Robinson seems to be a very reputable and solid company.

Question, how far is it from Makati, how close it is to Market!Market! and Essensa, and how close is it to the cemetery. For the latter, I am not comfortable having cemetery as my view. Medyo nakakatakot.

Any input is appreciated.

PS love this forum. Lots of knowledgeable people and few garbage posts and posters. Best of luck to all!

ryanr
May 5th, 2004, 07:50 AM
Forgot to do this but, Welcome to the Forums!!:) Yeah, this forum is great...
why dont you say "Hi" in the roll call thread? I'll add you in the list of forumers:D

I'll dig up some Fifth Ave. Place info and renderings we lost during a hack attack and post in on the thread you started. Francis20 should also have lots of info on it coz he is the official u/c man in the forum:D

Essensa is very close to Fifth Ave. Place. In fact, you can just walk to it in a few minutes. Market! Market! is not far either... You can walk and get there in 10 minutes. The cemetery is right across the street from Fifth ave place. It will be your primary view if you get a unit facing south. And Makati is across EDSA from Bonifacio Global City. You would have to take a taxi to get there.

I agree, Ayala Land is a very solid company. Buying a Ayala condo would be a excellent choice. Some of their projects include the Residences, the Columns, etc... Check out the threads in the u/c forum for additional information.

akaflores
May 5th, 2004, 09:07 AM
Maraming salamat GreyX for the welcome. I will try to post in the roll call thread.

I was looking at Ayala condos, as well as Manansala. Masyadong mahal for me. When I was offered Fifth Ave. Place, the price was very appealing. Hope I did make the right choice.

Mabuhay to all.

ryanr
May 5th, 2004, 09:24 AM
I heard The Columns is not that pricey...You should check that out. We have thread on it in the u/c forum.
The Residences is quite expensive so that might be out of your list.

imo, 5th Avenue Place is a very good choice.

Francis20
May 5th, 2004, 11:41 AM
it depends how much your budget is...and how long could you wait.
im guessing Columns will be turned over by 2007. Im pretty sure its a Good Buy. amenities are great. low monthly amortization...and completion is not far ahead. plus great location. if you got real big bucks for a condo, u might want to buy Pacific Plaza units...there are some more left i guess. GreyX, what about a thread comparing all these condos - amenities wise, price wise, location wise, etc...
i can put in a lot of info...plus i got some agents as contacts.
well, i gain nothing from it. jsut to to help these fellows looking for units to buy.

akaflores
May 5th, 2004, 07:29 PM
Thanks GreyX and Francis20. That is a very good idea for a thread. It will help prospective buyers. Of course, due diligence is still a must. I know perosnally, it will help me a bunch.

Mabuhay kayong lahat. Best of luck to the election.

fbgcxxxx
May 5th, 2004, 09:45 PM
Hey guys... accidentally surfed through this site and found it very helpful specially for me who resides in L.A.
I'm glad I could read all feedbacks regarding Fort Bonifacio Global's development. I happened to invests on a couple of condominiums in fbgc and one will be turned over to me next month. The unit is in Penhurst Parkplace, do you guys know of any good designer (competitively priced), because the developer is willing to do it but is charging P6000.00 per sq.meter?
Please count me in for discussions and ideas.... Also, to the others that want to try out a good restaurant in FBGC, I suggest CAFE BORA at the MC Home Depot along Kalayaan blvd.... They serve good pasta and pizza and the price is very reasonable plus ambience is great !!!!

ryanr
May 6th, 2004, 02:42 PM
Welcome:) heheh, we all accidentally found this forum;)

I dunno of any good designer. You mean interior designer? Maybe someone else knows.

Since you bought a unit in Penhurst, maybe you could tell us stuff about it in the Penhurst Parkplace thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=96822

Francis20
May 6th, 2004, 03:12 PM
u really own a unit up there? great! then u could invite us in, then we'll feast for the opening/turnover of your condo unit. I dunno any interior designer either, but since u asked for it, ill ask my acquaintances if they know someone who specializes on that. but hey, what about yourself doing it? so is it bare? then u do the furnishing yourself?
btw, im guessing Penhurst has a very good view of makati skyline, unless you're unit is facing South of Manila. hopefully, u coud invite us, then let's sneak thru the rooftop! :D

ryanr
May 6th, 2004, 03:27 PM
hahaha, thats a great idea. Penhurst's rooftop will offer awesome views of Makati, Ortigas and BGC. I would be great if you can bring us to the rooftop. We can take great pictures from up there.:okay:

JudeD
May 6th, 2004, 05:33 PM
I know several interior designers, but they're all rather costly. If you were a "close friend" I guess they'd lower their rates a bit, but for casual acquaintances I don't think so. I'll see if I can dig up somebody more reasonably priced. How much are you planning to spend on interiors? An interior designer told me that the secret to getting good results and spending less is to buy things piece by piece, one at a time, and not to rush.

pau_p1
May 6th, 2004, 09:44 PM
I have been lurking on the Fort Bonifacio site and thought that this was a very well planned district... with its size and potential... I hope that one day a very tall structure will rise in this area that will become an international landmark like the Petronas....:D

fbgcxxxx
May 6th, 2004, 10:26 PM
thanx for welcoming me Greyx, Francis20, Juded and Pau p1. Yup, I was able to purchase this unit (actually, one of the last ones...) during the pre-selling (very reasonable priced). I don't think my view is that fantastic as it is in the 12th floor (afraid of heights...) and if I'm not mistaken it's view is either Bonifacio Ridge and or side of the Call Center (not sure of the name). I'm quite not sure of a lot of things because I only visited the construction once when I went home for a vacation last year. I will be visiting on August again to formally receive the unit. And hey, everyone's welcome to come over and check out the views from the roof top.
B.T.W. The reason I'm curious about interior designers is because I'm contemplating on either selling this unit bare, or furnishing it then renting it out.
Lastly, if you guys want good views then wait till my unit at Fairways Tower gets turned over. This one has the view of Manila Golf Club/Forbes/Dasma and lastly the beautiful Makati Skyline... Now this one is definitely for keeps....
Talk to you again guys... remember I'm on a different time zone (California time....)

fbgcxxxx
May 6th, 2004, 10:29 PM
ANYBODY interested with pictures of the famous Frank Gehry design Disney Hall that was just inaugurated last year. What about the new Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels. Let me know....

bagel
May 6th, 2004, 11:03 PM
Maybe you can post those in the USA forum?

fbgcxxxx
May 7th, 2004, 12:58 AM
ok will most likely do that....

Francis20
May 7th, 2004, 07:35 AM
you got unit at Fairways??? You have too much money dude!
what about leasing me one of them? hahaha...i don't have the money for that tho. im guessing Penhurst units will be be leased at relatively high rate...since its at Fort Boni.
Fairways btw is still on the process of digging up the foundation.

fbgcxxxx
May 7th, 2004, 09:59 AM
not much money here.... really spread thin right now. just my way of contributing to the economy of the Philippines. Yeah right !!! Actually, i really think real estate prices in Manila are a steal right now compared to California. Fairways pay plan is very reasonable too. Have been paying for a few months only, still a long ways to go... :fiddle:

Francis20
May 7th, 2004, 10:06 AM
good decision!
it will be ully furnished, right?
Penhurst is not.
well, dont forget to invite us in when the unit will be turned over.
hehe...

fbgcxxxx
May 7th, 2004, 07:56 PM
will definitely invite u guys... i'll be flying in sometime August. will have to get ur cell #'s then ok.... :drunk:

Francis20
May 7th, 2004, 08:10 PM
sure thanks...that's 3 months from now...just tell us if u'r heading here already.

ryanr
May 7th, 2004, 08:37 PM
Hey, if you will be in MM on August, maybe you could join the Phil forum meet! Check out the thread about it in Samahan.

JudeD
May 7th, 2004, 09:24 PM
fbgcx, can I do a feature on your unit in the manila bulletin when you arrive? :-)

fbgcxxxx
May 8th, 2004, 11:04 AM
sure you may JudeD....
GreyX... How do I get to join the Phil Forum Meet??? Where's the samahan thread???? :bash: Guide me if you'd please... THANKS IN ADVANCE :)
i'm really enjoying this group....

fbgcxxxx
May 8th, 2004, 11:05 AM
whoops sorry GreyX... Already found the "samahan" thread... :wallbash:
Please be patient with me people :bash:

renell
May 8th, 2004, 11:10 AM
hey there dude. :guns1:

as a beginner, you'll be quite confused and stuff. but don't worry :)

ryanr
May 8th, 2004, 04:32 PM
hehe, no problem fbgcx... :)

Actually Samahan is a sub-forum of the Philippine Forum. Inside, there is a SSC Phil Meet thread;)

Francis20
May 19th, 2004, 03:22 AM
there's a crane rising again at Fort Boni. i cant figure out what part of Fort Boni is this. seems like its near Market Market, so probably its Serendra? but i don't think they're building Serendra that soon.

ryanr
May 19th, 2004, 04:52 AM
there's a crane rising again at Fort Boni. i cant figure out what part of Fort Boni is this. seems like its near Market Market, so probably its Serendra? but i don't think they're building Serendra that soon.

It could be Serendra...they said they will start soon. If not, it might be SOMA towers as that is supposedly next to Market Market. If its not one of those, maybe its a building we are not aware of.

Francis20
May 19th, 2004, 08:07 AM
the crane has been there since last 2 months. not SOMA or Serendra imo.

ryanr
May 20th, 2004, 06:31 AM
Ok then. It could be something we are not aware of.

Francis20
May 20th, 2004, 06:47 AM
or maybe still a part of Market Market! i haven't been at Fort Boni. I only passed by onced when i went to my former boss' residence at Pasig.

ryanr
May 20th, 2004, 06:59 AM
I dont think it is part of Market Market, as it is structurally completed already. Maybe there is a small building u/c or something.

renell
May 20th, 2004, 11:18 AM
the crane has been there since last 2 months. not SOMA or Serendra imo.

could be possibly a proposal we have forgotten, The Bellagio perhaps?

ryanr
May 20th, 2004, 01:20 PM
Bellagio is near the Manila Golf Course, not Market Market.

JudeD
May 21st, 2004, 01:13 PM
fbgcxxxx, I sent you a PM. I was able to find you a good-and-reliable-but-cheap interior designer!

JudeD
May 21st, 2004, 01:13 PM
fbgcxxxx, I sent you a PM. I was able to find you a good-and-reliable-but-cheap interior designer!

fbgcxxxx
May 28th, 2004, 09:08 PM
thanks JudeD... Been disconnected quite a while and just read your PM today. I will keep the information in hand and will get in touch when I get to Manila on August. :)

Edmundtanso
June 2nd, 2004, 11:19 PM
i will ask an agent for serendra about that mysterious cranes besides market market =)

Francis20
June 6th, 2004, 04:08 PM
so, any info Edmund? the projects looks huge. im sure its not part of Market Market!

Edmundtanso
June 8th, 2004, 02:49 AM
yup....he said it's part of Market Market....that's a pretty huge and boxy mall. too bad it doesnt compliment with serendra

Francis20
June 8th, 2004, 01:54 PM
so what are those cranes near Market2 for? any info so far? i just got flyers of Bellagio. i will ask some info when i got time.

ryanr
June 12th, 2004, 06:55 AM
Prolly an extention or something... I thought that Market2 was almost finished. Last time i saw it, it looked like its ready be opened soon.

apiong
June 12th, 2004, 06:05 PM
Prolly an extention or something... I thought that Market2 was almost finished. Last time i saw it, it looked like its ready be opened soon.

saw that crane and a predominantly steel structure rising right beside Market! Market!... I guess its probably a multi-level parking structure for the mall?

Francis20
June 14th, 2004, 01:42 PM
part of Market Market opened last Sat...June 12...only part of it. the whole of it will be opening within the year.

federal
June 14th, 2004, 03:14 PM
what's inside?...

Francis20
June 14th, 2004, 04:48 PM
retail shops i guess.
i didnt really go inside.
just watched the fireworks. :D

Edmundtanso
June 16th, 2004, 12:36 AM
cool! it'a a massive building (market market), is it by ayala?

pau_p1
June 16th, 2004, 09:16 AM
I was just browsing at the FBGC's site and found this article...
http://www.fbglobalcity.com/developmenta.html

http://www.fbglobalcity.com/images/btriangle.jpg

Bonifacio Global City, the country’s newest master-planned business district, will soon host a much-anticipated development. Fort Bonifacio Development Corporation (FBDC), now controlled and managed by Ayala Land Inc. and the Campos Group, recently launched Bonifacio Triangle, a 5-hectare property with 36 mixed-use lots.

The development is strategically situated at the heart of Metro Manila’s three major business districts---Ortigas Center, Makati Central Business District, and Bonifacio Global City. It is located in the vicinity of premier educational institutions like the International School Manila, the Manila Japanese School, and the British School of Manila, as well as recreational and shopping centers. Major thoroughfares EDSA and C5 are easily accessible via Kalayaan Avenue, which is adjacent to the site.

Since the Ayala-Campos group purchased a controlling interest in FBDC in April 2003, interest in Bonifacio Global City has heightened. In September 2003, McKinley Business Park was successfully launched, with all 17 lots taken up in a span of 3 weeks. “Those who missed out will now get opportunities to invest in Bonifacio Triangle.” says Bobby Dy, Head of Commercial Operations at FBDC. “We expect Bonifacio Triangle to complement and benefit from the developments in Bonifacio Global City.”

Situated at northern tip of Bonifacio Global City, - Bonifacio Triangle’s 36 lots will have areas ranging from 950 to 1,279 square meters. Its mixed-use zoning allows for residential and commercial uses, which includes hotels, serviced apartments, restaurants and small-scale retail arcades.

Bonifacio Triangle offers tremendous value and potential long-term rewards. The project benefits from the firmly established track record of the Ayala-Campos partnership. Those attracted to their previous developments are now looking forward to this endeavor, a chance to take part in Bonifacio Global City’s dynamic growth.

http://www.fbglobalcity.com/images/btrianglemap.jpg

pau_p1
June 16th, 2004, 09:28 AM
Bonifacio Global City Current Developments as of April 2004

http://www.fbglobalcity.com/images/bgcdistricts.jpg

to download a clearer copy, click the link below
http://www.fbglobalcity.com/publicdocs/fbdccurrdev403.pdf

Francis20
June 16th, 2004, 11:25 AM
nice article. this is very interesting. i wanna check out the real thing.
and Yes, Market Market is by Ayala.

Edmundtanso
June 16th, 2004, 11:39 PM
thanks francis! the rendering of market market on the BGC website looks so much nicer =) i like the older website better, there are not much on this website, hope they would improve it.....

what i noticed is they did some revisions on the original masterplan of BGC, it too bad that there seem to be more open areas before =(

pau_p1
June 17th, 2004, 04:18 AM
yeah... they seemed to change the plans... and the bonifacio triangle being a business center would make it look like a Rockwell center of the Makati District... a distant centro from the main business center...

also, i agree that the older website seems better, 'coz this new site makes it look like a newsletter only...

ryanr
June 17th, 2004, 10:17 AM
They finally released the brand new BGC website...but i agree, it was much better before. Wonder why it took them so long to update it, and its not even that good.

Anyways...nice updates. The map really helps. BGC is getting built up now, but i really wish there are more skyscraper proposals.

Edmundtanso
June 18th, 2004, 02:03 AM
and BGC looks smaller on that map....hope they would designate more land for parks and open spaces

pau_p1
June 18th, 2004, 03:36 AM
yeah.. it seemed small... for 1/3 or almost half is already Serendra and Market! Market!...

Edmundtanso
June 18th, 2004, 03:48 AM
you are right....is market market that big? i wonder if they have other plans for market market lot.

ryanr
June 18th, 2004, 05:22 AM
and BGC looks smaller on that map....hope they would designate more land for parks and open spaces

dont worry, more than 1/3 of BGC will be parks and open spaces, and not just the Ayala/Campos area of the development.

ryanr
June 18th, 2004, 05:44 AM
If you zoom in on this map, you will see stars on some of the existing developments. That means they are for interim (temporary) use only.. So that means, MC Home Depot, PriceSmart, NBC Tent, etc are all just temporary structures! Whoo hoo! More space for skyscrapers:okay: My earlier predictions were correct:D

http://www.fbglobalcity.com/images/bgcdistricts.jpg

pau_p1
June 18th, 2004, 02:25 PM
from their map... what I am not sure is.. what are those white areas?...

hmmm... and it seems that very big structures can develop on those areas huh..

muzic_lover2981
July 16th, 2004, 10:55 AM
concerned forumers! can u pls help me , i'd like to post some picture but i really dont know how?! pls, pano?thanks

Kiel
July 16th, 2004, 10:56 AM
You want to post one?

Use this code:

URL OF IMAGE

:) Hope that helps.

muzic_lover2981
July 16th, 2004, 11:04 AM
hey, kiel, i did many times as you have said but as i preview it, it wont work?

muzic_lover2981
July 16th, 2004, 11:10 AM
anyway, kiel thank u!

muzic_lover2981
July 16th, 2004, 11:27 AM
http://C:\Documents and Settings\jon\My Documents\My Pictures\my litrato\jon2\vli-building[1]gif

muzic_lover2981
July 16th, 2004, 11:44 AM
http://www.morningstar2010.com/default.asp?tl=244&id=244

http://www.morningstar2010.com/default.asp?tl=244&id=244

Eriq
July 16th, 2004, 02:13 PM
what you're doing is linking the website itself, not the picture (.jpg, .jpeg, .gif, .png extensions). You want post the picture so what you have to do is get the address (URL) of it. To get the URL of the picture, right click on it and select "properties". Highlight the Address, right click and copy (or Ctrl+C) the address then paste (or Ctrl+V) it in between the tag.

For example, from the website you hotlinked:
here's the page: http://www.morningstar2010.com/pic.asp?iCat=42&iPic=24

the picture from that page:
http://www.morningstar2010.com/pictures/youthnite.jpg

http://www.morningstar2010.com/pictures/youthnite.jpg

akaflores
July 16th, 2004, 07:41 PM
muzic_lover,

Do you want to post an image that resides on your computer, ie hard drvie? If so, you can do it by posting with attachments. You should have the privilege of posting attachment. See FAQ. If it is form another website, just follow eriq's advise.

Hope this helps.

muzic_lover2981
July 20th, 2004, 10:57 AM
hey, eric thanks by way for the effort! hey, i have questions to ask to you! are you member of Morning Star International? actually thats what i want to post here! nope, the VLI Building of Victory located in University Park ,,Fort Bonifacio!

muzic_lover2981
July 20th, 2004, 10:59 AM
eriq, regarding sa Picture what u have posted here, actually i was there! It was in ULTRA, Pasig, Metro Manila..thanks

muzic_lover2981
July 20th, 2004, 11:02 AM
http://www.morningstar2010.com/pictures/vlibldg_nite_2.jpg
VLI Building in University Park, Fort BOnifacio, it was great, ryt?

http://www.morningstar2010.com/pictures/vli_HQ.jpg

mhe-ann
July 20th, 2004, 01:28 PM
yeah, it looks nice.

Edmundtanso
July 20th, 2004, 07:55 PM
not bad! lots of glass very modern! wish it was taller though =)

Edmundtanso
July 20th, 2004, 08:22 PM
guys have any info or update on the following projects?

Charter Land Executive Club Building - BGC
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/6357061-L.gif

Manila Golf Crest Condominium - BGC

The Conservatorium Condominiums - BGC

thanks

Edmundtanso
July 20th, 2004, 08:23 PM
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/6357064-L.jpg

http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/6357062-L.jpg

absent-minded
July 20th, 2004, 08:44 PM
the VLI Building (what's VLI, btw??) looks nice!!! I like the lighting. is that first pic a rendering or a real photo? the BGC streetscape looks nice as well. I really loved Centennial City's streetscape design though... I wanna see what bus/jeepney stops will look like at FBGC...

Edmundtanso
July 20th, 2004, 10:24 PM
yeah based on the BGC streetscpae, on the middle of the street, it looks like a light rail right? i like how they did study the street and landscape lighthing, looks really good! i should look at the centennial city streetscape agian, cant remember how it looks now.

pau_p1
July 21st, 2004, 03:42 AM
wow... is that the planned streetscape for BGC?... wow.. it seems like that thing in the middle is a tranvia... like those in Budapest I presume...:D

good with the lightings.. I we can see this in the future...:D

MixedMike
July 21st, 2004, 06:45 AM
cool ya..! Bonifacio global city will rock in the future. *crossing my fingers*

renell
July 21st, 2004, 09:32 AM
hmm.. so a Light Rail system in BGC? hmm.. that wouldnt be a bad idea. and good timing too, it's better to build the LRT earlier than later. but the big drawback is that most of the folks living in those scrapers is that they all have cars and drivers :D or most of them. but no doubt it will be useful for future potential workers

muzic_lover2981
July 21st, 2004, 10:08 AM
YUP, the original plan for this building is 15 floor if im not mistaken..its just phase 1 completed..it composed of phase 1,2, 3, by 2007 they gonna build the phase 2, which is the state of the ARt Performing ARts theatre beside of the Building and the the phase 3 is the extension of the building....they will add more floors from 6 to 15 floors...

Eriq
July 21st, 2004, 02:59 PM
@muzic, no i'm not member of MSI, just posted it because I assumed you're trying to post something from there and was just making an example.

BTW, I remember seeing another render of that building with the additions you were talking about but I'm too lazy to look for it right now, sorry. The blue hues make it look like some sort of government intelligence building, eerie but cool. I like.

BGC had so much potential, and still, has but I heard lots of talks of tramways, airconditioned sidewalks, high speed train to Clark or Subic, how traffic would be a thing of the past, overhead cables would be a thing of the past... all before the Asian crisis hit, sigh.

I'm also curious what happened to Conservatorium. If I'm not mistaken, that's the building with gardens from top to bottom, right? I was pretty excited seeing the renderings of the building and thought how cool it would be to live in a high rise with a rainforest inside.

Edmundtanso
July 21st, 2004, 09:06 PM
eriq
conservatorium - yeah i used to have a broshure of that project. really neat project and on of it's type. it's a 2 tower building. i think the developer got bankcrupt or something. do you have any renderings of this project? tried the net but no luck.

manila golf crest - was another great project, it's right by manila golf club, maybe it's the site of the fairways tower, not sure. but it was supppose to be a high end condo, great design, like an oval shape. any renderings on this to eriq?

capital place is suppose to house the grand central train station of MM, grand hyatt will house one of the towers. the building permit is already there, guess they are just waiting for the right time to build it. i hope they do it soon because it's an awesome building from KPF, same guys behind GT tower and KLG Tower.

Thunderflip
July 28th, 2004, 03:30 PM
This is not the Global City I was imagining.I never knew this would be a modern, intelligent and well-planed new business center with full of highend residentials with International Schools,leisure and entertainment areas along with future offices of localfirms,banks etc. including the future Stock Exchange.

I guess,I was a dreamer coz I expected a whole lot more.I thought there would be space for a row of buildings for foreign firms to open branches in the offices of BGC,I never knew there would be more residential than office buildings.I'm afraid Market Market will be the main mall of the city,the main shopping area,I expected something more grand.I was also hoping for a theatre, a museum, a public library and even a sports stadium to be built.Those were just some silly thoughts of mine.But as I see,the latest developments take up lots of space.I was also expecting something like a central park to exit.Oh,well.I'm still thankful that our country has something like this.

Francis20
July 28th, 2004, 04:46 PM
of course there will be those Thunder!
only that the residentials came into it earlier than the others.
SM and Robinsons are both planning to put up their retails malls...I just dunno where, but lots were already taken up. Hotels, and entertainment centers, I guess are the ones underway. based on my readings. Hopefully, the residentials wouldnt take much of the lands. Forbes Town and Serendra took so much space, but there are still a lot of spaces for parks and leisure. Well, who knows, the whole area might extend farther. What about getting rid of the American Cemetery? hehe...kidding! :D

Edmundtanso
July 28th, 2004, 07:56 PM
francis - the american cemetery is a landmark, no no no no getting rid of it =)

actually BGC, was designed by HOK (us firm) it won an award as the best urban planning few years back. the original plan is very good, mixture of residential, commercial, retain, entertainment, institution, open spaces, park and etc. if they stick with the original plans, then this would be a worls class city.

i noticed that there were suppose to be roads that goes trough serendra, guess they omited that.

i agree, market market looks ugly =(

Edmundtanso
July 28th, 2004, 10:54 PM
BGC description from the designer (HOK)
Envisioned as the centerpiece for a new Manila that will be at the forefront of Asian planning and urban design, Fort Bonifacio will ultimately house a daytime population of more than one million people and accommodate 250,000 full-time residents. The creation of neighborhoods and a distinct "character of place" was interwoven with strategies for transportation, open spaces, infrastructure, public facilities, and environmentally-sensitive solid waste and water use.

For more info:
http://www.hok.com/new/projects/F5EC16B5-EDB8-11D3-9909-0090274EC5CC/Fort_Bonifacio.htm?sort=Time

Edmundtanso
July 28th, 2004, 10:59 PM
FORT BONIFACIO MASTERPLAN RECEIVES INT'L AWARD

Business Daily (Philippines); 8/19/1997

Business Daily (Philippines)
08-19-1997
The Fort Bonifacio Global City project was recently awarded the year's
Grand Prize for Best Community/Town Site Plan in the Over 500 Acres category
by the US PCBC/Western Building Show and Builder Magazine's 35th Annual
Gold Nugget Award. The Nugget Award is said to be the US real estate industry's
equivalent of Hollywoods Oscar Awards.

An annual gathering in planning and design, the event was held in San Francisco,
California and was attended by renowned architects and urban planners from
the US and the Pacific Rim.

The area of selection covered the 14 western states and six countries from
the Pacific Rim. A total of 480 entries were received for this year's

for more info:
www.highbeam.com/library/doc0.asp?docid=1P1%3A4609059&refid=ink_d1

Edmundtanso
July 28th, 2004, 11:17 PM
Found this on the net, not sure the status though.

Mc Kinley Center Master Plan
Manila, The Philippines

Covering some 64 hectares, the program lays out what is in effect a small city. This master plan is to be built in the New Fort Bonifacio District of Manila in one if several defined development zones.

Close to Ninoy Aquino International Airport and 2 kilometers from Makati, this development will be reached by road and light rail and include residential towers, offices, hotels, a theme park, country club, retail mall and chapel. Arnold Palmer will be involved in the design of the18-hole golf course.

http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/6654681-L.jpg

http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/6654682-L.jpg

http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/6654683-L.jpg

architect's website for more info:
http://www.pjar.com/projects_type_master_planning.html

Francis20
July 29th, 2004, 05:59 AM
Wow...so Fort Boni masterplan won an award? Cool!
I guess those photos above are indeed on the drawing board now. Ive read about that. Or is it the McKinley Business Center/Park? I dunno. I think that plan will push thru. Thanks for the article and photos Edmund.

pau_p1
July 29th, 2004, 08:09 AM
hmm... FBGC definitely is a masterpiece huh... I hope all projects on this land will push through with good funding.. plus I hope tall skyscrapers (I hope taller than Taipei 101 hehehe...) would stand on its grounds..:D

mhe-ann
July 29th, 2004, 08:51 AM
taller with Taipei 101 and with better design. hehehe. :D

Edmundtanso
July 30th, 2004, 01:34 AM
your welcome friends! =) yeah, just hope that they would stick with the original plans and we will all be happy =)

is BGC a good place for high rise building like 300m+? because it's close to the airport...but i would love to see 300m+ skyscrapers in BGC!

pau_p1
July 30th, 2004, 03:21 AM
well... I do think it is... specially on the areas near Kalayaan Ave or EDSA....

mhe-ann
July 30th, 2004, 05:01 AM
[QUOTE=Edmundtanso...but i would love to see 300m+ skyscrapers in BGC![/QUOTE]

yeah. If that happens, I will definitely find way to sneak thru in that bldg. :D Naakyat ko na kc ang PBCom...e 54th flr.lan un. hehehe. ang yabang!

absent-minded
July 30th, 2004, 10:50 PM
McKinley Center looks nice! in the first picture, where would FBGC be located? is that big road supposed to be C5 or some new highway? how come in the last pic it says Light Rail ------ (can't see) along the big road?

anyway, I'd want our supertall to go to Makati right now. if BGC was more populated (with scrapers of course, not people... haha) then I'd want it there.

Francis20
July 31st, 2004, 09:13 AM
some updates...
Penhurst was inaugurated last week. and at the same time Kensington broke grounds.
I really admire these projects. They have nice and unique payment schemes. Tho they're not so tall.

akaflores
August 5th, 2004, 08:39 PM
from Manila Bulletin (8/5/04)

BCDA sees R8.1-B revenues

The state-owned Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) is expecting to generate a total of R8.1 billion in the next 25 years from its joint venture project with property developers Megaworld Properties and Alliance Global Group Inc. (AGGI). Megaworld and AGGI entered into a joint development agreement with BCDA to redevelop the Lawton Parkway bounded on the northeast by the C-5 near Forbes Park Village and the Manila Golf and Country Club. The lot which covers 25 hectares is now being developed into a high-end residential subdivision cum commercial area dubbed McKinley Hill. A substantial portion of McKinley Hill is the McKinley Village, a high-end residential subdivision that was launched last May. McKinley Village is the first phase of the three–phased redevelopment of the 25-hectare McKinley Hill. Once completed in 2011, McKinley Village will have a direct route to the Makati Business District via the Upper McKinley road which is now under construction. The new road, a 22-wide meter avenue, will be linked to the existing McKinley Road. The Upper McKinley Road will also link up with the existing Lawton Road and the C-5 Road providing McKinley Hill easy access to various key urban points such as NAIA and Ortigas.
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Without familiarity, I am at a lost of the exact location. Anybody knows?

federal
August 10th, 2004, 04:35 PM
a friend told me there is some new donut store sa area... is it Krispy Kreme? Or nahihilo lang siya. Please enlighten me. Thanks

ryanr
August 10th, 2004, 05:28 PM
The McKinley Center Master Plan is awesome!!:okay: I like it how there will be a small skyline in that part of C-5, right below the future massive skyline of BGC. The golf course is also pretty good.

absent-minded
August 10th, 2004, 07:51 PM
a friend told me there is some new donut store sa area... is it Krispy Kreme? Or nahihilo lang siya. Please enlighten me. Thanks

hahaha..! it's Go Nuts Donuts, which is supposedly a franchise or something of Krispy Kreme with another name. the license to use Krispy Kreme was probably too expensive. last time i heard, you had to wait 40 minutes in line. dunno about now though. got to try it once and it was good enough to be called Krispy Kreme...

akaflores
August 10th, 2004, 10:03 PM
Krispy Kreme is a publicly traded company here sa US., so I doubt if it is a franchise or something. If anything else, it is a copy-cat.

Last I read is that the Araneta's got the franchise and they are planning to have the first KK at the Araneta Complex. Since I am from US, I am guessing that is at or around Cubao.

IMHO, Krispy Kreme Donut is more a fad. We have KK about a mile away, and we got tired of them quickly. Their donuts are not really that special.

akaflores
August 10th, 2004, 10:15 PM
sorry double post!

Edmundtanso
August 10th, 2004, 10:35 PM
yeah...once the property boom gets better and continues, we should see a lot of developments in BGC and the whole MM!

federal
August 11th, 2004, 04:42 AM
so where is it at?

mysaong03
August 11th, 2004, 07:56 AM
it isnt realy hard for us to convince well known intl brands to franchise their brands here & market their products, coz believe it or not, phils. has the most dynamic & developed franchising industry in asia, & its no joke. well, most ordinary people may not be aware of this, pero complete talaga tayo ng mga famous intl brand names from clothes, shoes, fast-food & stuff & theyre just 2 many to mention. 1 remarkable instance is the starbucks 58++branch network here compared to thailand's only 37. & more & more new names & branches are to be expected w/in this yr coz our malling culture just never ever stops!!! we're the new shopping capital indeed:->

renell
August 11th, 2004, 09:00 AM
if pinoys want donuts, they'll go to Mister Donut or that other donut store which i forgot its name. if its 40 minutes, screw that. krispy kreme has too much sugar, which probably contributes to Americas obesity problem.

rico
August 11th, 2004, 09:19 AM
if pinoys want donuts, they'll go to Mister Donut or that other donut store which i forgot its name. if its 40 minutes, screw that. krispy kreme has too much sugar, which probably contributes to Americas obesity problem.
the other doughnut shop is called dunkin donuts. :D

Kiel
August 11th, 2004, 04:27 PM
There's a new donut shop that opened in the Philippines. It's like Krispykreme and it's Gonuts Donuts. They're getting popular and the line is seriously very long when you try to buy one. Most people buy 3 boxes of donuts and eat donut costs 16.50. I can say it's much better than Dunkin and Mister Donut. ;)

federal
August 11th, 2004, 04:30 PM
again, where is it located?

Kiel
August 11th, 2004, 04:33 PM
It has one in BGC and it recently opened a new branch in Greenbelt. In Greenbelt, it's at the foodcourt (Greenbelt 3), while at BGC, it's near Fitness First. :)