Nottingham Forest - City Ground, 30,602

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/east_midlands/nottingham_city_ground1.jpg

Swansea City - Swans Stadium, 20,000

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/wales/swansea_stadium1.jpg

Huddersfield Town - The Galpharm Stadium, 24,000

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/yorkshire_humber/huddersfield_galpharm1.jpg

Bristiol City - Ashton Gate, 21,479

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/south_west/bristol_ashton_gate1.jpg

Barnsley - Oakwell Ground, 22,752

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/yorkshire_humber/barnsley_oakwell1.jpg

Bradford City - Bradford and Bingly Stadium, 25,136

http://www.lutonfc.com/images/guide_bradford_city-ground.JPG

Tranmere Rovers - Prenton Park, 16,789

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/north_west/birkenhead_prenton.jpg

Yeovil Town - Huish Park, 9,400

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/yeovil2.jpg

Southend United - Roots Hall, 12,306

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/eastern/southend_roots_hall.jpg

Gillingham - Priestfield Stadium, 11 582

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/south_east/gillingham_priestfield.jpg

Brentford - Griffin Park, 12,763

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/london/london_griffin.jpg

Bournemouth - Fitness First Stadium, 9,600

http://www.lutonfc.com/images/guide_afc_bournemouth-ground.JPG

Oldham Athletic - Boundary Park, 13,700

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/north_west/oldham_boundary_park.jpg

Doncaster Rovers - BelleVue, 7,758

http://www.doncasterroversfc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/ad/fd/0,,10329~327085,00.jpg

Walsall - Bescott Stadium, 11,300

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/west_midlands/walsall_bescot.jpg

Swindon Town - County Ground, 16,000

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/south_west/swindon_county.jpg

Scunthorpe United - Glanford Park, 9,183

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/scunthorpe20.jpg

Blackpool - Bloomfield Road, 11,295

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/north_west/blackpool_bloomfield.jpg

MK Dons - Stadium MK, 30,000 2006/7

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/pictures/future_stadiums/milton_keynes_mk.jpg

Hartlepool United - Victoria Park, 7,629

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/hpool3.jpg

Port Vale - Vale Park, 22,546

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/west_midlands/port_vale.jpg

Rotherham United - Millmoor Ground, 11,158

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/yorkshire_humber/rotherham_millmoor.jpg

Chesterfield - Saltergate, 8,880

http://www.lutonfc.com/images/guide_chesterfield-ground.JPG

Colchester United - Layer Road Ground, 6,200

http://www.lutonfc.com/images/guide_colchester_united-ground.JPG

Nottingham Forest what the Fuck are they doing in League 1 it is a ccomplete and utter joke how the fuck they went from European Champions 1979, 1980 to this is a joke. I've only been to one of those grounds and that is Gillingham small ground and the away was stafolding really poor, the area don't look the best in the world it has to be said and the train station which is close is dirty and soggy. By the way I thought it nmight be a good idea to up date the Bradford picture.

http://www.lutonfc.com/images/guide_bradford_city-ground.JPG

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ENG/Bradford_and_Bingley4.jpg

http://www.derby.org/neil/valleyparade3.JPG

Nottingham Forest what the Fuck are they doing in League 1 it is a ccomplete and utter joke how the fuck they went from European Champions 1979, 1980 to this is a joke. I've only been to one of those grounds and that is Gillingham small ground and the away was stafolding really poor, the area don't look the best in the world it has to be said and the train station which is close is dirty and soggy. By the way I thought it nmight be a good idea to up date the Bradford picture.

http://www.lutonfc.com/images/guide_bradford_city-ground.JPG

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ENG/Bradford_and_Bingley4.jpg

http://www.derby.org/neil/valleyparade3.JPG

Thanks. I thought the Bradford pic was old. Not sure about the Dons one either but since it doesn't exist yet I suppose it shouldn't matter too much

Some pretty large stadiums for 3rd division. Why is it that the second deck of Bradford Stadium stops at about 2/3 of the field? It looks a bit strange.

Is Bradfords stadium also used for rugby, or do they have their own ground?

This was the origanal plans for the new MK Dons stadium

http://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/projects/wimbledon/images/MKDons01.jpg

This is what the club is now building in time for next season.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/Ginola90/123newstadium.jpg

Is Bradfords stadium also used for rugby, or do they have their own ground?

The Bradford Bulls rugby league team play at Odsal Stadium, which is basically a big hole in the ground at the end of the M606. A few years ago they moved out and shared Valley Parade with City so that a massive redevelopment of Odsal could take place... but it didn't - instead a few changes were made to meet safety requirements and the Bulls moved back in 2003.

Some pretty large stadiums for 3rd division. Why is it that the second deck of Bradford Stadium stops at about 2/3 of the field? It looks a bit strange.

Yeh, Bradford had plans to complete the whole stadium if they survived in the Premiership a few years ago, they didnt splashed all thier money went into liquidation and ended up with a hlaf finished staidum

MK Dons new ground

http://www.buckinghamgroup.net/images/jpgs/MK%20Dons%20Stadium%20720%20B.jpg

Some pretty large stadiums for 3rd division.

That's because some weren't always in the third flight - Nottingham Forest, Barnsley, Bradford City and Swindon have all been in the Premier League in the 1990s or more recently...

Yes, it does seem strange that Notts Forest have allowed themselves to slip so far down the tiers of the football league. Then again nobody has the divine right to be a premiership club, you got to put in the hard work to climb up that greasy pole to the upper echelons of footballs elite. And if your punching above your weight you all too easily slip right back down, as a latics supporter I can all but testify to that. We had our glory years in the very early 90's, but when your not bankrolled, it can be very hard to sustain your position of being amongst the creme de la creme of ball kickers.

Yes, it does seem strange that Notts Forest have allowed themselves to slip so far down the tiers of the football league. Then again nobody has the divine right to be a premiership club, you got to put in the hard work to climb up that greasy pole to the upper echelons of footballs elite. And if your punching above your weight you all too easily slip right back down, as a latics supporter I can all but testify to that. We had our glory years in the very early 90's, but when your not bankrolled, it can be very hard to sustain your position of being amongst the creme de la creme of ball kickers.

Too true. It took Wolves 19 years to get back into the top division. And then they only lasted for the blink of an eye.

MK Dons new ground

http://www.buckinghamgroup.net/images/jpgs/MK%20Dons%20Stadium%20720%20B.jpg
This is a nice stadium...what's the capacity?

This is a nice stadium...what's the capacity?

30,000

And here's hoping it's a great big White Elephant :nono:

It will be, but Milton Keynes doesnt care, its just another scheme to help their ambition of becoming a city on a par with the other large South East ones (Southampton, Portsmouth, Brighton&Hove...)

The reason the main stand at bradford doesn't extend all the way across the pitch is because there's a road cutting into the corner of that side of the ground. The former chairman Geoffrey Richmond once had long term plans to get the road moved and extend it along the pitch but unfortunately we went tits-up and I doubt anything more will happen at Valley Parade for a very long time.

[QUOTE=Iain1974]MK Dons - Stadium MK, 30,000 2006/7

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/pictures/future_stadiums/milton_keynes_mk.jpg

White Elephants are coming :)

And here's hoping it's a great big White Elephant :nono:

Agreed. Let's hope that AFC Wimbledon eventually take their league place. What happened to the old Wimbledon FC was a disgrace and few things would give me greater pleasure than to see MK Dons fail and AFC Wimbledon flourish.

I'm pretty sure that the Walsall (Bescott stadium) picture is out of date. They added another tier at one end.

And Doncaster will move into a new 15,000 seat stadium in the summer.

The Bournemouth pic is out of date, aswell, they now have a small, uncovered stand at that empty end. And the terraced end in the Rotherham pic is now all seated, and their new Main Stand is nearly completed.

it is stunning how big the stadiums are, damn!

it is stunning how big the stadiums are, damn!

Well some of the teams such as Forest have only recently slipped down that far.

There's a thread on here somewhere with Second Division grounds. I'll try to fing it so you can see those grounds as well.

Oldham Athletic (my club) are redeveloping Boundary Park. The redevelopment starts in may I think.

http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/images/150206web4.jpg

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5648/oldhamarena19iv.jpg

Brighton and Hove Albion

Currently - Withdean Stadium - 8,850

http://stadiums.football.co.uk/shared/images/Championship/Brighton%20FC/Withdean-Stadium01.gif

Eventually - Falmer Stadium - 22,500

http://ussu.info/files/falmerstad.jpg

Bristol Rovers

Memorial Stadium - 11,916

http://www.nickhodge.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/memorial-ground.jpg

Carlisle United

Brunton Park - 16,651

http://www.visitcumbria.com/car/carlisle-united-5870b.jpg

Cheltenham Town

Whaddon Road - 7,300

http://www.cheltenham4u.co.uk/images/whaddon1.jpg

Colchester United

Colchester Community Stadium / Cuckoo Farm - 10,000 opening in a few weeks.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9872/designforcuckoofarmad1.jpg

Crewe Alexandra

Gretsy Road - 10,046

http://www.shepherd-gilmour.co.uk/images/crewealexander_428.jpg

Hartlepool United

Victoria Park - 7,691

http://www.leedsunited.com/javaImages/73/5/0,,10273~2950515,00.jpg

Hereford United

Edgar Street - 7,100

http://www.county4life.com/hereford.bmp

Huddersfield Town

Galpharm Stadium - 24,500

http://www.seatwave.com/FileStore/VENUE/IMAGE/000412_1_the-galpharm-stadium.jpg

Leeds United

Elland Road - 40,242

http://www.geocities.com/neil2bn/ellandroad.jpg

Leicester City

Walkers Stadium - 32,500

http://www.noble-online.com/Portals/0/Website%20Pictures/walkers.jpg

Leyton Orient

Brisbane Road - 9,271

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/198/477200050_5c2ceaa809.jpg?v=0

Millwall

The New Den - 20,146

http://www.freewebs.com/tims92/Millwall/New%20Den%20Panoramic.jpg

Milton Keynes Dons

stadium:mk - 22,000

http://www.county4life.com/DSC00098.JPG

Northampton Town

Sixfields Stadium - 7,653

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/northant1.jpg

Oldham Athletic

Boundary Park - 10,638

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x180/holls69_2007/boundary_park_1024.jpg

Peterborough United

London Road Stadium - 15,460

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/east_midlands/peterborough_london1.jpg

Scunthorpe United

Glanford Park - 9,088

http://www.benzo.org.uk/imagez/glanfordpk.jpg

Southend United

Roots Hall - 12,306

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/850000/images/_850699_roots_hall300.jpg

Stockport County

Edgeley Park - 10,852

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Edgeley_Park_1.JPG/800px-Edgeley_Park_1.JPG

Swindon Town

The County Ground - 15,728

http://www.lutonfc.com/images/guide_swindon_town-ground.JPG

Tranmere Rovers

Prenton Park - 16,789

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d3/Prenton_park.jpg

Walsall

Bescott Stadium - 11,300

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/236/450654966_85c428bcb5.jpg?v=0

Yeovil Town

Huish Park - 9,400

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/yeovil2.jpg

Anyone with corrections/updates, please let me know.

That's an old Picture of Walsall's Bescot Stadium (aka the Banks Stadium) as now one end has a massive two tiered stand in place of an old terrace. It's a shame the Gills got relegated...in a weird way i'm gonna miss the little pokey ground of League 1!

Don't suppose you can do a League 2 one too lol

Jeez! That new stand in Walsall looks like it holds more people than the rest of the stadium combined, although for stands that don't quite fit in, you really can't book beyond Brunton Park.

http://www.thefa.com/NR/rdonlyres/7AC0D72A-8134-4918-9BCB-21F897AAF8DF/0/bruntonpark_carlisle_large.jpg

This stand was built at a time when the club were thinking about shifting the pitch a few metres North from where it currently is. The stand was build with this in mind but the rest of the redevelopment never materialised, so the ground is left with a stand that has its centre about 10 metres north of the half way line...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/58690361_49b95ba2bb.jpg?v=0

Comparing some of the stadiums, Leeds/Huddersfield/Leicester/MK for example are definately the haves and Cheltenham/Hartlepool/Hereford the have nots.

Not only the Premier League has a disparity of wealth.

League 2? I'll do it if I get the time.

Well Leeds and Leicester are ex Premiership teams fallen upon hard times, Huddersfield's ground was built for co-operative use with the Huddersfield Giants Rugby League team, and the less said about football club stealing, Franchise FC the better.

Hartlepool, Cheltenham and Hereford definitely don't have the commercial appeal, or modern conveniances of other grounds in this day and age, but they certainly have character in abundance.

and the less said about football club stealing, Franchise FC the better.
Ah yes, England's Dynamo...

Leicester got relegated all the way down to "league one"? Shame to see them and Leeds so low. Clubs with good fanbase...

Football takes no prisoners. If you're not good enough on the pitch you'll go down regardless of fanbase. I'm sure both clubs will go up soon. I'd certainly expect Leeds to be a Championship side in 09/10.

Leicester got relegated all the way down to "league one"? Shame to see them and Leeds so low. Clubs with good fanbase...

Well that’s English football for you very few clubs are safe from hitting levels such as these. In fact the only clubs in the premier league that I would say that are as good as guaranteed premiership status are the big 4. Leicester got relegated despite spending something like £4m the previous summer and bringing in 2/3 players that were important players in promotion winning squads from the previous season for me this says a lot about the championship. The championship is for me possibly the most competitive league in Europe any one can go up and anyone can go down.
On the stadiums I can’t wait to see Falmer Stadium open from the renders that I have seen it looks as if it might be the best new stadium built in England.

Cant wait for the new season up at Edgeley Park what with Leicester and Dirty Leeds about its gonna be exiting stuff, theres some great stadia in League 1 this term and im exited as county normally do well in the big arenas ( wembley :nocrook: ). for a ground with a cap of less than 10k the noise we can gererated from the cheadle end ( the big stand ) is absolutley awesome so the singing and banter when the big boys visit this year will be world class (!!!)

P.S - I know county has a capacity of slightly over 10k but im being realistic fellas !!!!

looking at the photos Id have to say that theres tons more charachter in 90% of the grounds in league 1 than in the "bowl" that be the Walkers any thoughts?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/content/images/2005/10/20/gal1_470x350.jpg

The Memorial Stadium (Bristol Rovers) was due to be knocked down and rebuilt, starting this summer and ending in 18 months time. However at the last minute the company who were going to run the student accomodation pulled out, and it has been put back until summer 2009. During the redevelopment they were going to groundshare at Cheltenham's Whaddon Road.

The new stadium will be 18,500 capacity, on the same orientation and on the same site.

looking at the photos Id have to say that theres tons more charachter in 90% of the grounds in league 1 than in the "bowl" that be the Walkers any thoughts?

I think it depends how one views it - did any of the stadia in this thread, especially those that are deemed to have character by the majority, have character when they were first built? At the time when they were originally built, they would have looked little different than any other ground at the time. If at some arbitrary point in the future, it is decided that current stadium design is no longer 'safe', the way terracing was deemed, then I'd say that stadia like the Walkers Stadium would suddenly find character again as parts of the stadium were changed over time.

Ultimately, the character that we talk about, especially in the UK and Ireland is something that is a product of time and time alone. When many stadia in these countries were first built, they followed two general rules - either an oval of terracing (Old Trafford, Wembley, Hampden, Ibrox, Celtic Park, Windsor Park, Stamford Bridge, or various terraces and probably one stand crammed in amongst housing or on sites not suited to sports played on rectangular fields (Lansdowne Road, The Den) or perhaps a combination of the two (St. James Park, Anfield). Very few of these stadia, at the time, would have been considered to have 'character' - perhaps with the exception of Wembley, they were all built in the easiest and most cost effective way possible - I'd also wager, although I cannot say with certainty, that they were built with the most cost effective materials available.

Personally, I'd say that no new build stadium can be built with character - I've been quite vociferous about this in the New Anfield thread. I find that stadium a poor imitation of one that has character that is totally devoid of the tradition of newly built stadia in England. Perhaps more worryingly, I can only assume that New Anfield is a product of the fact that the club's owners feel that the club can afford it. That final condition is simply not an option for clubs like Leicester City or Southampton, to whom the most economical design and materials are optimal.

I guess this is a very pleonastic way of agreeing with you, but I dislike the ethic behind the post (and I mean that non-specifically - the comment, and it comes from many, annoys me rather than your question itself) - but I don't feel this is the product of the design of stadia like The Walkers Stadium or a problem that only exists currently - in their respective times, there was little difference between many newly built stadia - those that stand out are the ones that have evolved over many years.

Most stadia we consider to have character have changed over time, as safety concerns and how clubs maximise revenues have changed, with stands built over a number of years and even decades and that follow the the previous rules of a club's capacity demands and most economical design. If these demands and concerns change as drastically as they have in the last 50 years or so then I'd say we'll see similar transformations of stadia like The Walkers or St. Marys.

no, thats a valid and very good point. I guess that im relating to bowls like a lot of others in that they are drab and a bit boring without considering the whole picture. Id say the charachter i am speaking of is the scenario of the older ground with 4 differing but identifiable stands that are different in look but that somehow fit into the look of the ground. Take Edgeley Park, we have a crusty old main stand, an "open" scoreboard end, a small pitch length stand and a whacking great kop - the Cheadle End. This stand is 13 years old and you'd think this would look stupid sat next to the much older stands but it doesnt at all and fits it really well, and is instantly recognisable. Therefore adding to the charm of the ground.

"Kamaras Hair Gel", are you of greek descent btw?
Kamaras was the captain of Panathinaikos team that reached euro final (Wembley) in 1971.

Nice photos

I think it depends how one views it - did any of the stadia in this thread, especially those that are deemed to have character by the majority, have character when they were first built? At the time when they were originally built, they would have looked little different than any other ground at the time. If at some arbitrary point in the future, it is decided that current stadium design is no longer 'safe', the way terracing was deemed, then I'd say that stadia like the Walkers Stadium would suddenly find character again as parts of the stadium were changed over time.

Ultimately, the character that we talk about, especially in the UK and Ireland is something that is a product of time and time alone. When many stadia in these countries were first built, they followed two general rules - either an oval of terracing (Old Trafford, Wembley, Hampden, Ibrox, Celtic Park, Windsor Park, Stamford Bridge, or various terraces and probably one stand crammed in amongst housing or on sites not suited to sports played on rectangular fields (Lansdowne Road, The Den) or perhaps a combination of the two (St. James Park, Anfield). Very few of these stadia, at the time, would have been considered to have 'character' - perhaps with the exception of Wembley, they were all built in the easiest and most cost effective way possible - I'd also wager, although I cannot say with certainty, that they were built with the most cost effective materials available.

Personally, I'd say that no new build stadium can be built with character - I've been quite vociferous about this in the New Anfield thread. I find that stadium a poor imitation of one that has character that is totally devoid of the tradition of newly built stadia in England. Perhaps more worryingly, I can only assume that New Anfield is a product of the fact that the club's owners feel that the club can afford it. That final condition is simply not an option for clubs like Leicester City or Southampton, to whom the most economical design and materials are optimal.

I guess this is a very pleonastic way of agreeing with you, but I dislike the ethic behind the post (and I mean that non-specifically - the comment, and it comes from many, annoys me rather than your question itself) - but I don't feel this is the product of the design of stadia like The Walkers Stadium or a problem that only exists currently - in their respective times, there was little difference between many newly built stadia - those that stand out are the ones that have evolved over many years.

Most stadia we consider to have character have changed over time, as safety concerns and how clubs maximise revenues have changed, with stands built over a number of years and even decades and that follow the the previous rules of a club's capacity demands and most economical design. If these demands and concerns change as drastically as they have in the last 50 years or so then I'd say we'll see similar transformations of stadia like The Walkers or St. Marys.

It's a very good point, personally I believe character to be involved in the entire matchday experience, of which the stadium is key. For instance at my club, Gillingham F.C., our ground was built originally on what was the edge of town, but extensive migration of people out of London to Medway led to the expansion of terraced houses surrounding our ground, til eventually it was tucked away. It had one main stand, and three sides of terracing. It's location was not too far from a number of pubs, in terms of parking it's pretty much pointless. We had to park about a mile away and walk in, which meant we all walked together in the direction of the floodlights, only a couple of thousands Gills fans i'll have you, but still there was something about it.

The ground itself has been extensively rebuilt in the last couple of years, with three new seated stands, and traditionalists have lambasted it's lack of character, however as the stands were built when i was relatively young, i've begun to question that character is more of how willing people are to accept it, for I did, and still do love Priestfield stadium.

Which brings me onto the topic of new stadiums, it seems that as you said, when grounds we being built for the first time, they followed a set pattern (a pattern you can still see at sound grounds, like Barnet's Underhill and the Old Belle Vue of Doncaster) that was one main stand, and terracing everywhere else. Old Trafford was the same. These stadiums most likely were built in what was probably free space of the time, aka edge of town arenas in todays knowledge.

I guess what i'm trying to say is, despite not agreeing with the tendancy now to make Identikit bowls, it seems to just be a natural progression of stadium development, and character is a matter of acceptance that develops over time.

Saying that however, i believe there are a few key aspects of grounds that can influence the development of this atmosphere. I've always said this, you need one main stand as a focal point, two tiered. It's where the players come out from, the Chairmen and big wigs sit. Then you need a single tiered "kop" at one end of the ground for the most vocal areas of the home support. The opposing end could be given completely to the away fans or just partially but this should also be a single tier. The remaining stand is basically filler, and isn't going to be a centre for the vocal lot...at priestfield its the gordon road, and it's full of old people, so a single tiered stand all the way along would be alright.

Thats basically my dream ground, and it may shock you to realise, but i've just described Priestfield, home of the Mighty Gills lol. Apologies for the essay! Congratulations to those who actually read it!!

Cant wait for the new season up at Edgeley Park what with Leicester and Dirty Leeds about its gonna be exiting stuff, theres some great stadia in League 1 this term and im exited as county normally do well in the big arenas ( wembley :nocrook: ). for a ground with a cap of less than 10k the noise we can gererated from the cheadle end ( the big stand ) is absolutley awesome so the singing and banter when the big boys visit this year will be world class (!!!)

I take it you'll be chanting the unique "We all hate Leeds scum" next season, even though theres no history between the clubs but just seem to want to join in with the rest of the tin pot clubs who'll have there biggest crowd ever for a league game.

Thought so, i'll probably be a Edgeley Park depending if I can get a ticket.

I take it you'll be chanting the unique "We all hate Leeds scum" next season, even though theres no history between the clubs but just seem to want to join in with the rest of the tin pot clubs who'll have there biggest crowd ever for a league game.

Thought so, i'll probably be a Edgeley Park depending if I can get a ticket.


Not at all arrogant are we? :|

I've met a couple of Leeds fans in person and the majority are pretty decent people, aware of the fact they're in League 1 for a reason. Unfortunately it seems a large percentage who make their way onto internet message boards etc seem to want to portray Leeds fans are arrogant, holier than thou fans.

Oh and before you say, Leed's didn't relegate us the last game of the season, as even if we had won we we were already relegated because of Cheltenham beat Doncaster. So stick that "Poetic Justice" up your arris! :D

Not at all arrogant are we? :|

I've met a couple of Leeds fans in person and the majority are pretty decent people, aware of the fact they're in League 1 for a reason. Unfortunately it seems a large percentage who make their way onto internet message boards etc seem to want to portray Leeds fans are arrogant, holier than thou fans.

Oh and before you say, Leed's didn't relegate us the last game of the season, as even if we had won we we were already relegated because of Cheltenham beat Doncaster. So stick that "Poetic Justice" up your arris! :D

praise be brother, up the Gills!!!!( thats a one off for you matthemod ) were in league one for our holidays from league 2, dirty leeds are there for trusting a power hungry slimeball with a hole in his pocket with their cash..simple

In responce to the earlier comment, I wont be singing tin pot anti Yorkshire rhymes...I'll leave that to my kids....well prehaps an odd reference to those wooly hill dwellers of the pennines !!!!!

Anyway back on subject ...matthemod I completley agree with your idea for a stadium concept absolutley brilliant..would there be room at the back of each stand for clapped out programme stalls and 'owd wooden pie n' Bovril shacks lol

Ha that'd be nice! In all truthness though, thats an example of what i mean by the character and atmosphere of a ground. It's the little things that all add up to the feeling you get from a place. I've been to a good number of these league 1 grounds over the last couple of seasons, and even though a lot of them were utter rubbish in contrast to modern new grounds, it's nice to experience some of their little foibles, like Luton's leg crippling away stand accessed via somebody's back garden lol.

So yeah bring on the Bovril!

Not at all arrogant are we? :|

I've met a couple of Leeds fans in person and the majority are pretty decent people, aware of the fact they're in League 1 for a reason. Unfortunately it seems a large percentage who make their way onto internet message boards etc seem to want to portray Leeds fans are arrogant, holier than thou fans.

Oh and before you say, Leed's didn't relegate us the last game of the season, as even if we had won we we were already relegated because of Cheltenham beat Doncaster. So stick that "Poetic Justice" up your arris! :D

I'm not really being arrogant, I know Leeds are now shit. but our support has been fantastic. I don't really mind if we didn't technically relegate you, nor would I be that sad to even brag about it, I mean since when have Leeds or Gillingham had any sort of rivalry? They haven't same goes with Stockport.

No arrogance at all, just funny sometimes how 99% of the teams in the championship and league 1 sing songs like

"We all hate Leeds scum" and the funniest is "You're not famous anymore"

For example, the year we got relegated from the championship, Hull had this obsession with Leeds. 'Surprisingly' they sang "You're not famous anymore" just as they were singing it "Tonights attendence is (Whatever is was), the biggest 'EVER' crowd seen at the KC Stadium"

But now it seems a must for these random teams to which come have never played Leeds before to sing these songs and act like they've been Leeds most bitter rivals for decades. No doubt the promoted teams will be like the Cod heads and sing the same songs, yet still have their highest ever attendences.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy the upcoming season, and I hope to god that we get promoted, last season was fantastic and I thoroughly enjoyed it, from having a -15 point deduction to the play off final in one season is pretty good. Shame we had a bad patch, otherwise we could of gone up automatically. But anyway i'm looking forward to visiting a few more stadiums I haven't visited before. Then again i'll probably miss most if I get in the army. :(

You Leeds boys may as well have a rivalry with Gillingham/Stockport.

Man United fans only remember you as one of our feeder clubs. You're not even rivals for our reserves anymore.

You Leeds boys may as well have a rivalry with Gillingham/Stockport.

Man United fans only remember you as one of our feeder clubs. You're not even rivals for our reserves anymore.

You Leeds boys may as well have a rivalry with Gillingham/Stockport.

Man United fans only remember you as one of our feeder clubs. You're not even rivals for our reserves anymore.

oh dear HOI your for it now pal the reds have turned up!!!!!!

the only rivalry county/leeds have is the lanc/yorkie divide..always worth shouting about ...but i'll not go near the 20/20 if you wont haha

You Leeds boys may as well have a rivalry with Gillingham/Stockport.

Man United fans only remember you as one of our feeder clubs. You're not even rivals for our reserves anymore.


Thats why you still sing about us. Then again you're probably from Essex and has never actually been to Old Trafford before.

And why would we have a rivalry with Stockport or Gillingham, seeing as there is no history between Leeds and the two stated clubs, oh but you wouldn't know that would you, because you're a complete plastic cunt. Obviously Leeds' rivalries with Man Utd have died down seeing as we aren't in the same league, but then again we weren't in the same league for parts in the 80's but the rivalry was still there.

Oh and feeder club? Hardly.

pls, when was renovated Yeovil Town F.C. stadium (Huish Park)??? thx for answer...