http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2008/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-14216.pdf

Christ, three projects in the same area.

I'm confused. Information overload. :nuts:

man, I hate Adobe documents.. they take so long to open for me and half the time
they freeze.

I don't know about this one. it will be right in front and blocking metro hall as well as the new Lightbox tower.

should gets bonus points for block Metro Hall

Christ, three projects in the same area.

I'm confused. Information overload. :nuts:

This one would make it four or five if you include the Lightbox. Let's hope it makes for competitive pricing.

Over density.

What about the sun?

Why can't this be a 6 storey building?

The sun? Why do we need to see the sun? This is downtown Toronto. People don't come down here to look at the sky. This is probably the 0.1% of Canada's land mass where tall should be encouraged. It's a bit greedy to expect every stitch of land in this country to be the domain of low height advocates. There's over 9.9 million square kilometres of low height land in this nation, how much more do you want? Good grief.

The sun? Why do we need to see the sun? This is downtown Toronto. People don't come down here to look at the sky. This is probably the 0.1% of Canada's land mass where tall should be encouraged. It's a bit greedy to expect every stitch of land in this country to be the domain of low height advocates. There's over 9.9 million square kilometres of low height land in this nation, how much more do you want? Good grief.

:)

mmm I'm not sold on this one. More prime downtown land being used up for residential uses. IMO King is the main business street (outside of maybe Bay), and by the looks of it they are putting townhouse style retail/residential along the king frontange. I think that should be directed more towards to commercial offices.

Anything to take one's eyes off of just Metro Hall would be nice.

The hat on this tower looks like that of 18 Yorkville. If it turns out the same as that tower, I'd be very pleased. :cheers:

The sun? Why do we need to see the sun? This is downtown Toronto. People don't come down here to look at the sky. This is probably the 0.1% of Canada's land mass where tall should be encouraged. It's a bit greedy to expect every stitch of land in this country to be the domain of low height advocates. There's over 9.9 million square kilometres of low height land in this nation, how much more do you want? Good grief.

We still need to encourage intelligently planned developments.

^^ Of course, but a height reduction to 6 floors doesn't necessarily translate into good design or intelligent planning. That someone would suggest this here, indicates that this person simply is opposed to anything tall. Of all the places in Canada, this is where we should be encouraging height. Intelligent planning and good design is something that should be mandatory everywhere.

Yeah, in saying that I think this building is fine where it is.

mmm I'm not sold on this one. More prime downtown land being used up for residential uses. IMO King is the main business street

Bah...once you've hit John St, you're no longer in the financial district. And seeing as there is an almost unlimited supply of development sites outside of that area, there is no danger of non-residential uses being shut out, if and when the desire to build it arises.

Plus, the best use of "prime" downtown land is residential. Even with Toronto's enormous downtown residential population, the downtown working population is still even bigger. Ideally, it's best to tamper massive working population areas with an even larger residential population.

We are extremely fortunate that our downtown already has very large and diverse mixed-use, mixed-demographic qualities. There's no such thing as too much residential...only too much of every other kind of use. Residential towers downtown will not drive out business...it will attract it.




KGB

man, I hate Adobe documents.. they take so long to open for me and half the time
they freeze.
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php

Thanks, kettal.. I think I have downloaded it, but will have to wait and see if the download was successful.

Bah...once you've hit John St, you're no longer in the financial district. And seeing as there is an almost unlimited supply of development sites outside of that area, there is no danger of non-residential uses being shut out, if and when the desire to build it arises.

Plus, the best use of "prime" downtown land is residential. Even with Toronto's enormous downtown residential population, the downtown working population is still even bigger. Ideally, it's best to tamper massive working population areas with an even larger residential population.

We are extremely fortunate that our downtown already has very large and diverse mixed-use, mixed-demographic qualities. There's no such thing as too much residential...only too much of every other kind of use. Residential towers downtown will not drive out business...it will attract it.




KGB



I'm sure you have KGB, but for the rest, see Jane Jacobs take on Manhattan after 5pm.

http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php

Ok, now I have downloaded foxit, when I click on the Adobe document, it still comes up as "Adobe"... is that correct? It did come up a lot faster, though.

(I'm not aware of a thread for this project on SCC)

First posted by interchange42 on UT from Adam Vaughan's Flickr stream.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3427900108_447f8a2e20_o.jpg

Hmm...:hm:

Montevideo Tower, Rotterdam, Mecanoo Architecten
http://i44.tinypic.com/izotwk.jpg
http://www.backstein.de/3.0/kk_redsystem_media/montevideo_totale_2_144_kl.jpg

Different for Toronto but still a dumbed-down import of overseas originality. Come on T.O. You can do better than that, can't you?

mehh

im just thankful adam vaughan supports atleast ONE development

He's gone against city planning in support of buildings. Nothing new there.

To get it on the radar...
http://www.8mercer.com/

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100228098.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100228099.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100228100.jpg

Is it this one?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3425/3276675803_008e653f8e.jpg

I think it's this one from UT (Interchange42)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3427900108_447f8a2e20_o.jpg

I like the podium element, it looks to top heavy for me though. I'd be happier if it was 10 floors shorter. Also I wish Toronto would impose a setback regulation like in NYC, this tower is way too bulky.

Delete.

Urban Toronto's thread states it as being 33 floors, by BBB Architects...producers of crap architecture by the looks of it.

http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?5762-8-Mercer-%28-John-Graywood-Beaverhall-33s-BBB-Architects%29/page6

http://www.bbb.ca/

Urban Toronto's thread states it as being 33 floors, by BBB Architects...producers of crap architecture by the looks of it.

http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?5762-8-Mercer-%28-John-Graywood-Beaverhall-33s-BBB-Architects%29/page6

http://www.bbb.ca/

I thought I saw the property notice say 38-39 stories but, of course, it may be out-of-date...

the proposal was revised to 33 storeys, 112 metres

Looks like one where you leave lights out. (not that I've ever been in such a situation)

Looks like one where you leave lights out. (not that I've ever been in such a situation)

Huh?

I like the design. Looks very Dutch (contemporary not traditional). I think it's been changed substantially since that render though. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

New renders. The brise-soleil's a little fussy but otherwise I like the design.

Posted by Solaris and casaguy on UT.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z133/markus919/2010/fade_2.jpg

http://www.8mercer.com/floorplans/manager/upload/1267468259_duskrender8mercer.jpg

Source: http://www.8mercer.com/

Is it this one?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3425/3276675803_008e653f8e.jpg

Thats the proposal for 21 Widmer.

I count only 33 stories. Meh, nothing about it particularly offensive, except that it looks a bit top-heavy with the solid part. A little chunky, but better than Festival. Podium looks very Vancouver.

I count only 33 stories. Meh, nothing about it particularly offensive, except that it looks a bit top-heavy with the solid part. A little chunky, but better than Festival. Podium looks very Vancouver.

It is 33 stories, 111.6 m

I agree, it reminds me of some of those Yaletown and downtown Vancouver condo towers--bland, with "polite" nod to the past via red brick podiums, the fussy top and lotsa glass between. Slightly better than most Vancovuer towers perhaps, but not as detailed.

Not a fan.

(The quality of the red brick is gonna make or break this project--if it's good red, like aA used on their DD condo, then it may be saved.)

i give this thing a solid 'good enuf' stamp of approval -so far. finishes and clean lines will make or break this decent pylon.

I had to smile seeing these posters:

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/115/dsc02015vi.jpg

Then I frowned realizing this old building is being pulled to put up the new crappy 8 Mercer:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6295/dsc02022.jpg

What cheered me up: Realizing this "dead" district will be radically transformed over the next 10 years, with at least a dozen highrise condos.

This one should sell well. However, I hope they choose to beef up the reinforced concrete structure with that McFatty's sales office.

Ehhhhh.. it's whatever.

:sleepy:

Can we change the title to say 33st instead of 39st?

http://www.dailycommercialnews.ca/cgi-bin/top10.pl?rm=show_top10_project&id=aee76ba7a38c9f8f54fe6e68b1b5988d8e1ea006&projectid=9092409&region=ontario

RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, RETAIL Proj: 9092409-4
Toronto, Metro Toronto Reg ON PREPARING PLANS
60 John St, Mercer St, M9N 1J7
$40,000,000 est
Note: Council rezoning approvals are in place. Sales and marketing are underway. Schedules for Working drawings, tender for Gen Cont and construction will be determined based on occupancy. Further update July, 2010.
Project: proposed construction of a condominium apartment building with 337 units and 11,550 sq ft of retail space at grade level.
Scope: 337,000 square feet; 33 storeys; 6 storeys below grade; 337 units; parking for 190 cars; 8 acres
Development: New
Category: Apartment bldgs; Retail, wholesale services
Owner Complete information is available to subscribers. Click HERE to find out how to subscribe.
Architect Complete information is available to subscribers. Click HERE to find out how to subscribe.
First report Fri Nov 14, 2008. Last report Fri Nov 13, 2009.
This report Tue Apr 13, 2010.

Done. If a final height comes up, let us know! Thanks!

Scale model pics by Solaris on UT.

Southwest / Southeast / Northeast Elevations
Click to Enlarge
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/th_IMG_4088.jpg (http://s350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/IMG_4088.jpg) http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/th_IMG_4087.jpg (http://s350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/IMG_4087.jpg) http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/th_IMG_4086.jpg (http://s350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/IMG_4086.jpg)

Rooftop Terrace
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/th_IMG_4089.jpg (http://s350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/IMG_4089.jpg)

By interchange42 on UT.

The only obvious change is the shortening of the brick frame.

New:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/TheMercerDusk.jpg


Old :

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/MercerDayRendering.jpg


Slight changes to the podium and penthouse levels too.

Do I dare to say I like the old render better?

It looks like the architect is struggling with the brick frame. I think it should go all the way up to the top or eliminate it all together.

It looks like the architect is struggling with the brick frame. I think it should go all the way up to the top or eliminate it all together.

agreed.

Too busy at the top.

Too busy at the top.

Can't echo this enough.

Well, this has been long forgotten but sales are now done and demolition of the building behind the sales centre has begun as well! Let's change this to PREP please :)

A rather odd looking creature; it looks a bit top heavy or something. Perhaps it could benefit from a setback or two.

I'm way over comb-over hats.

^^ Can you change it to Prep, TB?

^^ Thanks!

^^ Thank YOU!

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Toronto/DSCF3547.jpg

This one is officially under construction. September 12th by Jasonzed at UT.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Toronto-04-21-2012-onward/DSCF6899.jpg