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Hed_Kandi June 29th, 2008, 09:20 PM http://www.mirax.ru/img/headers/721_lg.gif
http://www.dynamicarchitecture.net/moscow.html
Moscow will have its Rotating Skyscraper
to become the new icon of the Russian capital.
According to the Chairman of the MIRAX GROUP Sergey Polonsky, “the brightest feature of the building will be rotation of most floors around the central core, irrespective of the movement of other floors. Thus, floors will not be identical, which will allow the building to change the form constantly. Another characteristic feature of the building will be the system of connection of pipelines: all engineering systems of the central core will be connected to the rotating parts of floors, which will allow to use water, electricity, heating and the sewerage in the apartments in a habitual mode. The method of construction will be also unique: the central core will be poured in-place, and the floors will be made section by section at a factory and fastened to the core when assembled, with all MEP systems and, probably, even furniture”. "After initial estimates, this method will allow us to reduce the time of construction minimum to 30 %, and besides, to essentially lower the site pollution during construction", - adds the Russian project manager.
This tower will have 70 stories, 400 Mt high. (1312 ft).
The developer is the international Moscow based, MIRAX GROUP Company headed by Mr. Sergei Polonsky.
The volume of investments into the tower construction is going to exceed $400 million.
The total area of the tower will be almost 110,000SM (1184000SF) with offices and retail premises as well as apartments and penthouses.
The project, to be realized in the new area of Moscow City within the limits of the third transport ring, is now in the stage of advanced design and coordination.
The beginning of construction is planned for the end of the year, and the commissioning of the tower into operation will be for 2010.
http://www.dynamicarchitecture.net/moscow.html
Main features of the Rotating skyscraper
The project will offer apartments with:
• Astonishing view: the tenants of the “villas” can rotate their Villas according to the sun from sunrise to sunset, just by a voice-activated system;
• State-of-the-art design details;
• Very high quality finishing;
• The most sophisticated electronic devices;
• Completely custom-made luxury apartments
• Complete guaranteed maintenance service;
• The most advanced safety systems;
• Pools and sauna at the apartments and penthouses
Click here for Rotating Tower Moscow Movie (http://www.dynamicarchitecture.net/Moscow-Video/moscow.html)
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eddie88 June 29th, 2008, 09:23 PM another one, i didnt think it was possible.
igor June 29th, 2008, 09:23 PM A beautiful project!
Cristobal_illo June 29th, 2008, 09:24 PM Another one. This tower with the Dynamic Tower in Dubai will be amazing!
coth June 29th, 2008, 09:27 PM it's a vision. not even proposed yet.
Gamma-Hamster June 29th, 2008, 09:29 PM If this render is correct, then it will be somewhere here:
Photo by Axort:
http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/8/panorama2ryl0/panorama2ryl0-webbig.jpg
LeMoN-SK June 29th, 2008, 09:32 PM I like this one much more than the Dubai one...
skyboi June 29th, 2008, 09:35 PM it's a vision. not even proposed yet.
I though I read an article about his dynamic Tower a while ago and they have had put down some payment for this Tower already , how come It's only a vision when money has been involved for transaction Coth ? btw ,I would love to see this Tower rising sooner or later in Moscow as well as other awsome Towers like Metropolia and Crystal tower, they are amazing projects , Moscow keeps fascinating me every day
Hed_Kandi June 29th, 2008, 09:35 PM Moscow will have an amazing skyline in 5 years.
Hed_Kandi June 29th, 2008, 09:38 PM it's a vision. not even proposed yet.
"The beginning of construction is planned for the end of the year, and the commissioning of the tower into operation will be for 2010"
soloveich June 29th, 2008, 09:44 PM some links?
Hed_Kandi June 29th, 2008, 09:52 PM some links?
Look at the first post
skyboi June 29th, 2008, 09:56 PM Look at the first post
I better believe you Hed_Kandi :lol:
skyperu34 June 30th, 2008, 12:07 AM Very beautiful and innovative ! I like the new fashionning concept
coth June 30th, 2008, 12:13 AM "The beginning of construction is planned for the end of the year, and the commissioning of the tower into operation will be for 2010"
It's not proposed yet. Mayor said few days ago - "never heard of it, we were never discussing it". I'm not saying it won't be built - i'm just saying the title is wrong. No one picture shows correct position. First is in botanic garden, second is on a site of Chigirinsky's Russian Land (Zaryad'ye redevelopment by Norman Foster). It most probably will be located on a place of recently refused by Luzhkov 54 story tall Mirax egg building (few meters to right of first picture) or on an opposite side of upper Kutuzov motorway in the Big City.
Brad June 30th, 2008, 12:44 AM It most probably will be located on a place of recently refused by Luzhkov 54 story tall Mirax egg building.
And the Mirax egg was rejected because according to Luzhkov Moscow-city can not afford more office space :) (because of traffic jams)
Hed_Kandi June 30th, 2008, 12:49 AM Corporation MIRAX GROUP is to realize in Moscow a unique project Rotating Tower where each floor will rotate around of the central core of the building, irrespective of other floors.
The corporation has signed a corresponding agreement with architect David Fisher who owns the patent for the project concept. The volume of investments into the tower construction is going to exceed $400 million.
The agreement between MIRAX GROUP and president of Dynamic Architecture David Fisher was signed on July 12, this year. At the beginning of August, the initial payment was made, however, the partners do not want to disclose the cost of the contract. According to the contract, MIRAX GROUP has received exclusive rights for realization of the Rotating Tower concept in the territories of Moscow and St.-Petersburg.
The project is now in the stage of coordination, but it is already known that the total area of the tower will make almost 130 thousand sq. m., and it will have over 60 floors: there will be offices and retail premises on the ground floors while other areas will be for apartments.
According to Chairman of the MIRAX GROUP Board of Directors Sergey Polonsky, the brightest feature of the building will be rotation of most floors around the central core, irrespective of the movement of other floors. Thus, floors will not be identical, which will allow the building to change the form constantly. Another characteristic feature of the building will be the system of connection of pipelines: all engineering systems of the central core will be connected to the rotating parts of floors, which will allow to use water, electricity, heating and the sewerage in the apartments in a habitual mode. The method of construction will be also unique: the central core will be poured in-place, and the floors will be made section by section at a factory and fastened to the core when assembled, with all MEP systems and, probably, even furniture. "After initial estimates, this method will allow us to reduce the time of construction minimum to 30 %, and besides, to essentially lower the site pollution during construction", - adds project head Vladimir Antimonov.
"Now we are negotiating at once several land areas within the limits of the third transport ring, in one of which we are going to realize this project,” - Sergey Polonsky says. By his estimate, the construction working costs of the rotating part of the tower will reach $4 thousand for a square meter, and the total amount of investments into the project will exceed $400 million. The beginning of construction is planned for the end of 2008, and the commissioning of the tower into operation – for the first half of 2011.
http://eng.mirax.ru/tabid/75/Default.aspx
Brad June 30th, 2008, 01:07 AM the brightest feature of the building will be rotation of most floors around the central core, irrespective of the movement of other floors.So, it is almost impossible that the building's curves (shown on all pics) will be so smooth.
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rgarrison June 30th, 2008, 05:01 AM You know I just realized that the renders aren't very realistic. If tenants are able to control the position of there villas independently then the corners of the levels wouldn't be all lined up all orderly like in the render. wouldn't it be more random.
soloveich June 30th, 2008, 07:05 AM So, it is almost impossible that the building's curves (shown on all pics) will be so smooth.
it, actually, is possible and very easy...
hifisoftware June 30th, 2008, 07:07 AM You know I just realized that the renders aren't very realistic. If tenants are able to control the position of there villas independently then the corners of the levels wouldn't be all lined up all orderly like in the render. wouldn't it be more random.
Either that or tenants will not have a full control over their floor. Or another way to look at it: maybe not all tenants will have a full control over their floor. There are various ways to solve this issue. None of them are perfect (it seems impossible to have both full control and smooth edges), but something workable.
Another interesting aspect is how quite the rotation mechanism will be. If I pay that much money for a flat I would not want to be woken up by the machinery noise.
All these questions make this project very intriguing in my view. It's also nice that tower has a nice shape to it.
Infrasuper Planet June 30th, 2008, 08:14 AM I like this one much more than the Dubai one...
yeah, same here.
this is more fluid and smooth, and integrates into its environment much better.
gamma_ray_burst June 30th, 2008, 02:36 PM Also in Milano they are proposing a similar building for the 2015 Expo.
If approved it will be probably a little bit shorter than this one but that can be considered as a proof of the fact that it is an interesting project
ZZ-II June 30th, 2008, 07:03 PM i read an article that also Germany is interested in such a tower...maybe we'll have a few more threads about the same tower for different cities :)
Joy Machine June 30th, 2008, 07:38 PM I like this one much more than the Dubai one...
I was about to say the same. The others are pretty cool too. I think there's one that looks like rocks or something really weird.
skyboi June 30th, 2008, 10:00 PM Right ^^maybe they will have to programe the building rotation in gradual synchronization ,so that it won't end up like a brick pile
Joy Machine June 30th, 2008, 10:10 PM hmm I could be totally wrong about this, but for some reason I was under the impression that you owned a floor and you controlled the rotation. I'm not sure, but I agree, it would be far more interesting if they programmed it to create different spaces. I think if it was under the owner's control, it could just end up looking like a big mess spinning in the sky.
Jim856796 June 30th, 2008, 10:13 PM This tower may be impossible to construct since the floors of this tower are supposed to rotate.
skyboi June 30th, 2008, 10:32 PM This tower may be impossible to construct since the floors of this tower are supposed to rotate.
Watch the video _It's David Fisher the Architect who made this render possible to the public , so I don't hink He would like his Reputation tarnished though
Peloso July 1st, 2008, 01:36 AM Watch the video _It's David Fisher the Architect who made this render possible to the public , so I don't hink He would like his Reputation tarnished though...not that he has much of a reputation anyway.:lol:
skyboi July 1st, 2008, 01:50 AM ...not that he has much of a reputation anyway.:lol:
Frankly I don't much about him , but I could assume no Architect would want to be labeld as a hoax ,when it comes to International Competitions to sell their designing Projects
Peloso July 1st, 2008, 02:21 AM Frankly I don't much about him , but I could assume no Architect would want to be labeld as a hoax ,when it comes to International Competitions to sell their designing ProjectsI'm not saying it's necessarily so, but, let's say, there's a possibility this project was designed to attract publicity in the first place, not to be actually realized. After all, with all the coverage he got, this Fisher is more likely to get his future projects through to a large public, even if some "last minute decision" will see these "dynamic towers" cancelled for whatever reason. But what I'm still struggling to understand is, how could some poor 3d animation and dull catchphrases stir so much interest for a shady Jewish-Italian architect and bathroom designer? Maybe I'd understand if at least the concept was new, but it isn't.
Cidade_Branca July 1st, 2008, 03:20 AM How many energy that will loose?
Anberlin July 1st, 2008, 03:33 AM I like this one better than the Dubai one, IMO. :D
Assemblage23 July 1st, 2008, 03:37 AM People may like this building or hate it, but if it ever gets built, EVERONE would be marveled to just look at it. It might even become a tourist attraction (as long as they don't become too common :nuts:)
Bori427 July 1st, 2008, 03:39 AM I also like this tower more than the Dubai one.
Assemblage23,I think they'll be pretty common in a few years...
Joy Machine July 1st, 2008, 05:18 AM As I said in another thread, there are numerous high rise rotating restaurants and there is also a rotating house in san diego. The only additional difficulty is taking that one rotating restaurant or house, and making 40 of them all in the same space. But I think with a big enough core it could easily be done.
-=JAG=- July 1st, 2008, 04:02 PM How many energy that will loose?
Good question!:lol:
ZeeM July 3rd, 2008, 12:19 AM As I said in another thread, there are numerous high rise rotating restaurants and there is also a rotating house in san diego. The only additional difficulty is taking that one rotating restaurant or house, and making 40 of them all in the same space. But I think with a big enough core it could easily be done.
There was also a rotating restaurant on the ostankino tower, not sure if it still operates.
hella good July 3rd, 2008, 01:53 AM very nice building indeed
SpaceScraper July 3rd, 2008, 02:23 AM The video on the building's web site is certainly entertaining to watch. However, I do not believe the building will change shape so quickly. Otherwise, they would have to rename the building the Nausea Building or the Sea Sick Building.
:puke:
Joy Machine July 3rd, 2008, 06:37 AM oh i think somewhere, maybe on the architects website??? it said it would do like one rotation per 24 hrs. Very slow
iliamo July 4th, 2008, 09:43 PM It looks amazing, way better than the Dubai one.
Densetsu July 6th, 2008, 05:11 AM WOW what an amazing tower! Awesome :eek:
Herr Lind July 7th, 2008, 10:35 AM it, actually, is possible and very easy...
Was it ever used in some other projects?
drew.magoo July 8th, 2008, 04:56 AM How many energy that will loose?
according to the buildings website, there will be a wind turbine between each floor.
apparently, it will generate its own power and even provide some for nearby buildings. :)
The video on the building's web site is certainly entertaining to watch. However, I do not believe the building will change shape so quickly. Otherwise, they would have to rename the building the Nausea Building or the Sea Sick Building.
:puke:
lol, i was just thinking the same thing! it would be funny to watch though! :lol:
TXSkyWatcher July 15th, 2008, 01:14 PM OK...I haven't watched the vid yet but I cannot see how the plumbing will work. Electricity is easy to transfer to rotating floors but drains and water supply?
PS....the quiet factor is a non issue...there are many, many rotating restaurants and they are all whisper quiet.
nilkiimas July 17th, 2008, 09:31 AM OK...I haven't watched the vid yet but I cannot see how the plumbing will work. Electricity is easy to transfer to rotating floors but drains and water supply?
Water supply and drains (kitchen, bath) are probably in the core, which doesnt rotate.
(same for the elevators)
rizalhakim July 17th, 2008, 10:08 AM beautiful!!!
Peloso July 17th, 2008, 11:22 AM Err... people, are you aware yet that this building - and its "cousin" in Dubai - is very possibly a scam? :fiddle:
Twipsy July 17th, 2008, 12:51 PM oh i think somewhere, maybe on the architects website??? it said it would do like one rotation per 24 hrs. Very slow
Wow, that would mean that from some apartments you would NEVER see the sun and from some other apartments you could see the sun from sunrise to sunset.
hrvat July 17th, 2008, 01:50 PM This is amazing!!!
Alexriga July 17th, 2008, 03:48 PM Looks like science fiction to me. Is such building really safe? Star Trek returns lol. It's just a vision.
Brad July 17th, 2008, 05:26 PM Water supply and drains (kitchen, bath) are probably in the core, which doesnt rotate.
(same for the elevators)In this case only one apartment can be on each floor.
Twipsy July 17th, 2008, 06:40 PM But at least some floors will have eight apartments:
http://www.dynamicarchitecture.net/IMG/Moscow_Project/Moscow.jpg
I think there are ways to solve this problem. Water supply could work with tanks and the water pressure could be achieved via pumps, which rotate with the floors. At least if those pumps are not very loud. I am not an engeneer, but there I can´t imagine that that will really be a major problem.
Hunt July 17th, 2008, 11:36 PM how does the plumbing and electricity come in?
RapidRail July 18th, 2008, 04:02 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/2608322098_f2e73d460e_b.jpg
:eek: wooow....
jayo July 18th, 2008, 04:31 PM Now,thats something speical :D
RapidRail July 18th, 2008, 04:48 PM Wow, that would mean that from some apartments you would NEVER see the sun and from some other apartments you could see the sun from sunrise to sunset.
it's true if it ROTATES within 24 hour periode. but from the animation @the architect's website you'd see that it didn't continuously rotate clockwise, it sometimes swivels and rotates counterclockwise. so i guess all tenants will experience sunrise / sunset at any days...
one think i'm not sure about this building... all tenants will be allowed to control their floor, as there will be 8 households on some floors (despite each floor can be rotated individually) <---i just read: only 'villas' owners are allowed to do so.
However i'm sure there will be a building authority to control its movements, for the sake of external reasons (creating artistic sequence) and internal reasons (tenants' fairness of exposure <--- i just made that up:) )
can't wait to see it manifests into real life
wazcaster July 18th, 2008, 04:52 PM How would the central core be abe to support the weight of the building despite having holes in it for pipes, electricity and lift shafts?
What sort of motors would be used to drive this?
Slurms Mackenzie July 18th, 2008, 06:11 PM Err... people, are you aware yet that this building - and its "cousin" in Dubai - is very possibly a scam? :fiddle:
Yeah what's going on with all of this? I gather the Dubai one is dead (ie revealed to be a scam). Is the Moscow one dead too?
After the allegations about faking credentials, the 'architect' of these two supposed buildings seems to have disappeared in a puff of smoke.
This has always been very suspicious, which is why I was so critical of the proposal on the thread for the Dubai one.
If this does indeed turn out to all be a hoax, it has made a lot of people look very silly.
Dale July 18th, 2008, 06:53 PM I suppose we'll find out very soon whether it's legit. They say they're starting later this year.
skyboi July 18th, 2008, 07:04 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/2608322098_f2e73d460e_b.jpg
:eek: wooow....
^^ It doesn't really have to rotate ,just stay the way it is like this enough to make people paused to stare at it :)
Dale July 18th, 2008, 07:06 PM I agree. Just build it like that and leave the 'on' switch alone.
infratot July 18th, 2008, 08:06 PM that design looks really awesome, but I doubt the tower will so much 'aligned' in the end. If every floor can be rotated individually, the tower will look rather disheveled
Junkie July 20th, 2008, 04:08 PM If this tower is going to be build then I think Moscow will be out of concurrence at least in Europe.
Nneznajka July 20th, 2008, 06:43 PM Im 90% sure that this tover isnt going to be built ... at last in the nex 10 years ...
infratot July 20th, 2008, 07:29 PM I think this company is just doing some door-to-door business in severyl cities to sell their idea. I really much doubt that it will be build, except in cities craving for recognition... Dubai?
Sky_Crawler July 20th, 2008, 09:36 PM I don't think a floor could rotate independently any number of circles regardless of other floors, it will just be able to turn a little in respect with adjacent levels.
OMH July 21st, 2008, 07:36 PM The idea for this tower certainly is very interesting, though it seems to be too futuristic for nowadays, but who knows maybe its not..the technique to make each individual floor rotate IMO isn't too complicated , but i gess there will have to be some adjustments made...certainly a very interesting idea for a skyscraper, though i really doubt that construction will start this year...the design looks great though, and i would love to see this building in Moscow's skyline in the future.
the sock July 31st, 2008, 09:07 PM looks fab, just dont know how they will move all the services up and down the building, lifts,water electric?
ZZ-II July 31st, 2008, 10:47 PM the core won't be moveable ^^, this should answer your question :)
the sock August 10th, 2008, 12:22 AM thanx zz11
Krattle August 10th, 2008, 12:48 PM Can you imagine the complexity of the motors alone? To rotate a whole floor...
How could you support it? The beams have to connect to the central core but if the floor is going to rotate then so would the core. I'm sorry, I can't figure out how this could ever work no matter what kind of technology we have. The laws of physics won't change.
droneriot August 10th, 2008, 06:59 PM Can you imagine the complexity of the motors alone? To rotate a whole floor...
How could you support it? The beams have to connect to the central core but if the floor is going to rotate then so would the core. I'm sorry, I can't figure out how this could ever work no matter what kind of technology we have. The laws of physics won't change.
All been done before.
Dequal August 10th, 2008, 07:02 PM All been done before.
Just look to the CN Tower in Toronto with the rotating restaurant...
http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/TAE1440.jpg
Marcanadian August 10th, 2008, 07:04 PM ^^ But the plumbing is in the core of the tower (washrooms, kitchen). I still don't understand how movable floors with movable pipes would connect to the core.
Dequal August 10th, 2008, 07:07 PM ^^ But the plumbing is in the core of the tower (washrooms, kitchen). I still don't understand how movable floors with movable pipes would connect to the core.
The restaurant is also turning in the CN Tower, so they already have a solution for the pipes, elektricity, etc.
Quote from a website about the Dynamic Tower:
The floors consist of 12 units and on each floor there will be individual plumbing, electric connections and air conditioning among others.
coth August 10th, 2008, 07:47 PM Ostankino Tower has also rotating floors.
Krattle August 10th, 2008, 11:18 PM Rotating restaurants just use rotating floors. They don't also move the walls and ceiling.
I also don't see how a floor can have individual plumbing. The water has to be pumped up there and it has to flow away. Therefore the pipes must go to the water tanks which I doubt they would keep in each floor. There's no room under the floor for a water tank.
ross410 August 11th, 2008, 12:01 AM If it is actually to be built, the only thing that worries me is the 'garden' level about a quarter of the way up, as it leaves the rest of the building from then on to be supported solely by that one section of core on that level. Can imagine it getting wobbly in high winds..
kingsc August 11th, 2008, 07:11 PM It looks like Chicago Spire had a stroak. Nothing more nothing less.
worldclass August 12th, 2008, 03:49 AM :cheers:free GEORGIA
dars-dm August 12th, 2008, 08:03 AM del
Big Texan August 12th, 2008, 08:08 AM Rotating restaurants just use rotating floors. They don't also move the walls and ceiling.
I also don't see how a floor can have individual plumbing. The water has to be pumped up there and it has to flow away. Therefore the pipes must go to the water tanks which I doubt they would keep in each floor. There's no room under the floor for a water tank.
wouldn't each pipe be attached in the core at a central pivot point, allowing it all to turn and all feed into one pipe?
There is my idea. Unless it fills one kind of Tank and empty's into the main tower line once or twice a on a rotation.
I do think that first, we need to see a tower that has one or 2 or even 5 floors that rotate independently one on top of the other, and not just the interior floor with no walls moving, I mean the entire floor plan rotates. It needs to be addressed and taken care of on that small level before a massive tower id made with ever floor rotating.
supermario August 12th, 2008, 08:43 AM a step ahead indeed but does it really look good? Will it go with close sorroundings? I am not convinced.
Second City August 13th, 2008, 03:38 AM Very, very nice tower!
vancouverite/to'er August 13th, 2008, 04:04 AM It will be cool seeing Dubai, Moscow, New York and Toronto getting their rotating towers:banana:
Densetsu August 13th, 2008, 06:19 AM ^^New York and Toronto? I dont think that a rotating building would look nice in these cities.
skyboi August 13th, 2008, 06:47 AM Why not ? they would look good in either City , the problem is can they build them ? we have been hearing much of them but none really being built yet !
Dequal August 13th, 2008, 09:43 AM Why not ? they would look good in either City , the problem is can they build them ? we have been hearing much of them but none really being built yet !
It's a very different style then the architecture of New York and other North-American cities.
skyscraper100 August 13th, 2008, 12:05 PM its nice, the dubai's rotating tower is much better IMO
ZZ-II August 13th, 2008, 12:41 PM why is the dubai one much better, it is the same tower :lol:. because of 20m difference??
djmaxliving August 13th, 2008, 12:42 PM russia v georgia plus the west.
Dequal August 13th, 2008, 12:43 PM why is the dubai one much better, it is the same tower :lol:. because of 20m difference??
The design is different too ;)
ZZ-II August 13th, 2008, 01:04 PM oh, indeed...didn't saw that until now :D
1059860 November 4th, 2008, 10:36 AM What's with the gap in the middle?
Shortest Skyscraper November 13th, 2008, 12:55 AM Either that or tenants will not have a full control over their floor. Or another way to look at it: maybe not all tenants will have a full control over their floor. There are various ways to solve this issue. None of them are perfect (it seems impossible to have both full control and smooth edges), but something workable.
Another interesting aspect is how quite the rotation mechanism will be. If I pay that much money for a flat I would not want to be woken up by the machinery noise.
All these questions make this project very intriguing in my view. It's also nice that tower has a nice shape to it.
When the building gets old, the noises coming from the rotation will sound like the sinking Titanic... just like in the movie... metal-bending deep-sounds.
OK...I haven't watched the vid yet but I cannot see how the plumbing will work. Electricity is easy to transfer to rotating floors but drains and water supply?
PS....the quiet factor is a non issue...there are many, many rotating restaurants and they are all whisper quiet.
You'd know the engineers screwed up, when you see on on the ceiling some dripping brown water: "Oh, not again... the neighbors rotated the floor too fast too much again!"
Water supply and drains (kitchen, bath) are probably in the core, which doesnt rotate.
(same for the elevators)The elevator stops, and displays a message to the people riding it: "Please wait for floor below to arrive!"
^^ It doesn't really have to rotate ,just stay the way it is like this enough to make people paused to stare at it :) Yes, it looks great... I'd rather have the tenants not have control over the rotation... because it will start looking like somebody had mentioned -- stacked up concrete blocks.
NEWUSER November 13th, 2008, 03:13 PM The idea that you can lose your view because someone decided to rotate the floor sounds like trouble waiting to happen. It's a beautiful building no doubt.
NEWUSER November 13th, 2008, 03:17 PM You'd know the engineers screwed up, when you see on on the ceiling some dripping brown water: "Oh, not again... the neighbors rotated the floor too fast too much again!"
I highly doubt that the tenants would have access to rotate, this is 8 apartments per floor, so it must be controlled by building management or central computer that will oversee the rotations.
The elevator stops, and displays a message to the people riding it: "Please wait for floor below to arrive!"
Not possible. Core of the building will not rotate, that's fixed. If you look at plan, you can see the big circle core and corridor, these are all fixed.
Yes, it looks great... I'd rather have the tenants not have control over the rotation... because it will start looking like somebody had mentioned -- stacked up concrete blocks.
Again, 8 apartments, cant have 8 units rotating floors 24/7.
My only concern is how they will decide when they rotate it. I wonder if all apartments - on same floors that are same size - will come with exact price tag.
Peloso November 13th, 2008, 03:29 PM Wouldn't it be easier to have the tower stand still and the city rotate around it? In Dubai they must have envisioned something like that.
welshdragon08 November 13th, 2008, 04:04 PM this building is awesome wit all of the twists in it. I'm sure it was difficult to construct. http://tinyurl.com/5lst4c/.gif (http://tinyurl.com/6bshx5) http://tinyurl.com/5lst4c/.gif (http://tinyurl.com/6bshx5) http://tinyurl.com/5lst4c/.gif (http://tinyurl.com/6bshx5)
Basincreek November 13th, 2008, 08:34 PM Wouldn't it be easier to have the tower stand still and the city rotate around it? In Dubai they must have envisioned something like that.
No, Dubai is going to realign the tilt of the Earth's Axis and put itself in a more temperate latitude. Unfortunately this means Moscow will end up at the literal North Pole and will have to replace its tap water with vodka.......not that anyone will notice.
radiant_city November 13th, 2008, 09:39 PM You know I just realized that the renders aren't very realistic. If tenants are able to control the position of there villas independently then the corners of the levels wouldn't be all lined up all orderly like in the render. wouldn't it be more random.
Thank you.
Exactly why this, and the Dynamic Tower in Dubai, will be an eyesore on the Moskva skyline.
Want a different view? Get off your backside and walk to a different room.
drew.magoo November 14th, 2008, 06:05 AM No, Dubai is going to realign the tilt of the Earth's Axis and put itself in a more temperate latitude. Unfortunately this means Moscow will end up at the literal North Pole and will have to replace its tap water with vodka.......not that anyone will notice.
actually, theyre gonna stop the earth, and instead use a tractor beam put the sun into orbit around dubai, like it was originally meant to be.
Peloso November 14th, 2008, 06:40 AM No, Dubai is going to realign the tilt of the Earth's Axis and put itself in a more temperate latitude. Unfortunately this means Moscow will end up at the literal North Pole and will have to replace its tap water with vodka.......not that anyone will notice.The Muscovite are tough and won't care... but don't you worry about your fellows Californians being brought close to the equator?? How will they live with the monsoons? Lots of windsurfing but no more bikinis! The holiday season completely messed up! They might not survive the shock.
Manitopiaaa December 20th, 2008, 10:28 PM Such a drastic change since 1988. No one would have expected this. But Russia needs to diversy from just natural gas and oil and needs to become an a full member of the global community, and not be seen with such disdain as many in America and the West do.
sturman March 6th, 2009, 09:21 AM ^^ Go fuck yourself. Thank you.
webeagle12 March 6th, 2009, 10:00 AM Such a drastic change since 1988. No one would have expected this. But Russia needs to diversy from just natural gas and oil and needs to become an a full member of the global community, and not be seen with such disdain as many in America and the West do.
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The Sage March 9th, 2009, 11:03 AM I don't see what's so wrong with his statement. Russia's pretense at calling itself a 'democracy' is laughable. It's run by a group of power-hungry tyrants who deeply miss the days when they they could simply shoot someone if they said something they didn't like, and are trying to get it back to those days as quickly as possible. I think many do view them with disdain.
Georgia, anyone?
coth March 9th, 2009, 11:10 AM @The Sage
Did you noticed the thread title, what does it say?
roccocancun March 11th, 2009, 07:53 PM super tower its very nice
huge tower
Manitopiaaa March 15th, 2009, 10:37 PM It looks okay. It doesn't exude "RUSSIAN" to me though.
**RS** July 9th, 2009, 05:13 PM I like this incredible tower more than Dubai analogue. :cheers:
Aiacos July 13th, 2009, 04:15 AM I don't see what's so wrong with his statement. Russia's pretense at calling itself a 'democracy' is laughable. It's run by a group of power-hungry tyrants who deeply miss the days when they they could simply shoot someone if they said something they didn't like, and are trying to get it back to those days as quickly as possible. I think many do view them with disdain.
Georgia, anyone?
Do you think that USA, UK, Italy or spain are democracies? Because that way more laughable :lol:
I think Russia is one of the few countries (or maybe the only one) that can call themselves a democracy.
ONTOPIC: Is this builing going to have a parking lot inside the aparments? :nuts:
Imperfect Ending July 13th, 2009, 09:21 AM I didn't like Dubai's... I don't like Moscow's
[{x}] July 23rd, 2009, 07:37 PM Does anyone know if they went ahead with this? Is it being built? All I can tell from their website is that construction was supposed to start at the end of 2008 and the tower should have been operational in 2010...I can't find any further information.
The Phenom August 25th, 2009, 09:32 AM ;40202904']Does anyone know if they went ahead with this? Is it being built? All I can tell from their website is that construction was supposed to start at the end of 2008 and the tower should have been operational in 2010...I can't find any further information.Considering the developer (MIRAX) is bankrupt and considering that there are a dozen other major projects on hold and they haven't really even started on this one, I'd say the chances of it actually being built are fairly slim. Certainly not before 2015 or so.
aceflamingo23 August 27th, 2009, 10:47 PM If not 2015, lets get this thing built in 2016!
yangkhm August 28th, 2009, 05:58 AM Very great project, It looks like the Spire Chicago and Dynamic tower in Dubai.
It would be great when it will finish.............
dark_shadow1 December 8th, 2009, 10:35 PM I've never quite understood these things. If there are 8 apartments per floor- when will each floor rotate? And if the floors rotate almost all the time- it will be stupid since they will line up with the elevators only once in a while, a thing which will create situations like "I'll come in 10 mins, I've just missed the elevator...".
This is a vision tower, a vision which has no reason to come true. Only 1 apartment-per-floor-rotating-tower is possible, but not very economical.
coth December 9th, 2009, 01:17 AM The core will not rotate
WiGgLz01 December 9th, 2009, 07:35 AM Wow it's amazing!!
ожежи April 6th, 2010, 10:55 PM I don't see what's so wrong with his statement. Russia's pretense at calling itself a 'democracy' is laughable. It's run by a group of power-hungry tyrants who deeply miss the days when they they could simply shoot someone if they said something they didn't like, and are trying to get it back to those days as quickly as possible. I think many do view them with disdain.
Georgia, anyone?
Why are britishers so annoyed of Russia's growing power ?!
Ah yes, they are USA`s barking dogs :ohno:
City of Rain April 6th, 2010, 11:12 PM delete
Abdy April 6th, 2010, 11:21 PM Any news : rejected or for future under construction ???? Or under study ?
Abdy April 6th, 2010, 11:23 PM On June, it will be a two year proposal ! I don't think we have news of approval before 2 or 3 years...
AUTOTHRILL April 7th, 2010, 12:58 AM Oh dear
Donodöner June 5th, 2012, 08:42 PM two years later....
Influence June 5th, 2012, 10:50 PM What's good with this baby is that it's in the rightest place ;)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3147/2607482543_56c3699058_b.jpg
igor June 5th, 2012, 10:57 PM This project will be never realized...
AnOldBlackMarble June 5th, 2012, 11:10 PM All these rotating towers from Russia to Dubai are all a fraud. They were designed by this guy, David Fisher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Fisher_%28architect%29) who is currently in prison. This nor any of the other "rotating" towers will ever be built.
Los Earth June 6th, 2012, 01:04 AM All these rotating towers from Russia to Dubai are all a fraud. They were designed by this guy, David Fisher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Fisher_%28architect%29) who is currently in prison. This nor any of the other "rotating" towers will ever be built.
:eek: What, why?
Peloso June 6th, 2012, 06:26 AM I hate to say I said it, but... :)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=653206&page=2
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=651041&page=3
AnOldBlackMarble June 9th, 2012, 11:05 PM :eek: What, why?
Because the guy is a conman. He set up this company, promoted these buildings for which he had no idea how to feasibly construct them but got investors to give him over 30 million dollars, and then filed for bankruptcy, and tried to pocket all the money. It was all a scam from the start to take investors' cash.
Los Earth June 9th, 2012, 11:33 PM Ok thanks again! :laugh:
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