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VfB Stuttgart

5x Champion:
1950, 1952, 1984, 1992, 2007

3x Cup Winner:
1954, 1958, 1997

1x Supercup:
1992


New endzone stands for the Gottlieb Daimler Stadium
http://www.pro-vfb-stadion.de/stadionmodell.jpg
will cost 73,2 mil €
capacity: 56,400 (currently 55,900)

Great find Sercan thx.
Looks quite acceptable although Im not really sure about that video-cube (talking about the shadows in the Commerzbank-arena)

@Ipioe
Yes it seems pretty certain that this project will be realized very soon. That said, I still had hopes that Stuttgart would go for a new 50 or 60k stadium. But the money just isnt there so fair enough.
Atleats that athletics track will disapear.

the 2nd tier will be great
it will get more and more rows towards the main stand

BTW, name will be changed.
Gottlieb Daimler Stadion -> Mercedes Benz Arena

New endzone stands for the Gottlieb Daimler Stadium
http://www.pro-vfb-stadion.de/stadionmodell.jpg
will cost 73,2 mil €
capacity: 56,400 (currently 55,900)

Considering the distance between touchline stands and pitch, shouldn't touchline stands get renovated as well? On the render it seems much closer than what it is now.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/67228011_05a556a2a8_b.jpg

And sercan.de, do you have any idea when the renovation will start?

Maybe they will add some rows?!

As i remember tey want t start next year?!

Maybe they will add some rows?!


Yeah they should lower the pitch again now that the athletics track will be fully gone.

http://www.pro-vfb-stadion.de/stadionmodell.jpg

strange there's no loundge vip suits???

they already some at the main stand
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/GER/Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion.jpg

they already some at the main stand
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/GER/Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion.jpg


few vip seats in the city and stadium of mercedes benz!! :lol:
come on germans! why to be so shy! :lol:

Actually in germany there aren't so many vip boxes
I do not why.
Allianz Arena has got the most boxes in a german stadium (106)
Those are ok
Allianz Arena 106
Veltins Arena 81
Olympiastadion Berlin 76
Commerzbank-Arena 76
Weser Stadion 70
MSV-Arena 41
Volkswagen-Arena 32
LTU Arena 27
Zentralstadion 16


need more IMO
AOL Arena 50
RheinEnergie Stadion 48
Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion 44
Borussia-Park 42
AWD Arena 29
east-Credit Stadion 14
Fritz-Walter-Stadion 12
Signal Iduna Park 11
BayArena 10

few vip seats in the city and stadium of mercedes benz!! :lol:
come on germans! why to be so shy! :lol:

Mercedes should have sponsored a new stadium, so that we would have had an equivalent in the state of Bawü to the Allianz in Bavaria :D

http://www.vfb.de/media/images/news_2008/mercedes_benz_arena1_552x245.jpg

The Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion in Stuttgart will be renamed to Mercedes-Benz Arena.
The renovation works will start in May 2009 and they will finish in July 2011.
The pitch will be lowered and the stands behind te goals will be rebuilt.
The stadium will have a cap. of 39.000 during construction and 55.000 after completion.

http://www.vfb.de/media/images/news_2008/mercedes_benz_arena1_552x245.jpg

The Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion in Stuttgart will be renamed to Mercedes-Benz Arena.
The renovation works will start in May 2009 and they will finish in July 2011.
The pitch will be lowered and the stands behind te goals will be rebuilt.
The stadium will have a cap. of 39.000 during construction and 55.000 after completion.

No increase in capacity? I think Stuttgart should expand the stadium to at least 60K. They saw the average attendance of 44,800 in 2006/2007 season even when the stadium had athlectics tracks around the pitch. Maybe there isn't enough sponsorship from Benz to add a few thousand seats?

No increase in capacity? I think Stuttgart should expand the stadium to at least 60K. They saw the average attendance of 44,800 in 2006/2007 season even when the stadium had athlectics tracks around the pitch. Maybe there isn't enough sponsorship from Benz to add a few thousand seats?

No increase in cap albeit the al-track will be gone.
But I also think they should have gone for 60k. Imo they should even have built a new stadium, but as usual the money apparently isnt there.
Bit of a shame considering that there isnt a big modern stadium around in the state of Bawü.

Instead I hope them to see almost every game sold out after 2011/2012 season. That means they would enjoy about 10K attendance increase on average :) I'm sure they will do.

The Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion, WC 2006-venue and next season named Mercedes-Benz-Arena, will be renovated from 2009. The stands behind the goals will be demolished.

more informations here: http://www.pro-vfb-stadion.de/

from:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion-2007.jpg/800px-Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion-2007.jpg

to:
http://www.pro-vfb-stadion.de/stadionmodell.jpg

If this renovation project goes forward, I'm gonna dislike the stadium. I like it better in its current configuration. If the Gottlieb-Dalmier stadion gets redeveloped into a rectangular stadium, it won't be the Gottlieb Dalmier Stadium anymore. It'll just be a frakked-up stadium with rectangular stands and a oval roof.

^^
Agreed I like this stadium at the moment one of the best in Europe with an athletics track. I don’t see why they need to re-configure the stadium especially seeing as capacity isn't going to be increased are there going to be any financial rewards out of this? And as far as i know even with the athletics tracks dont Stuttgart still sell-out.

Club and fans wants a football stadium

few vip seats in the city and stadium of mercedes benz!! :lol:
come on germans! why to be so shy! :lol:

vip boxes don't make noise and don't make atmosphere. but on the other side, they generate money.

i find it good that the running track will disappear. just looks better. compare a video from a bundesliga game in the 80s (where nearly all stadia had a running track) to a premiership game in the 80s. big difference.

New model photos of Stuttgart's Mercedes-Benz Arena (55,896 -> 60,000)

http://www.stadionwelt.de/neu/sw_stadien/images/news/1224256001.jpg
http://www.stadionwelt.de/neu/sw_stadien/images/news/1224256002.jpg

Looks great!

is that SketchUp?:sly: :lol:

The birth of another huge football specific stadia. Congratulations!

Looks amazing

I'm sure this is one of the rare cases where a render is no worth of the real thing! I suspect it to be a very cool football venue!

Does anyone have any more pictures or info on the design? If so can anyone tell me if it's going to have a sloping second tier similair to Shakhtar's third tier?

I also found this here

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/9868/86668411689294517002sp9.jpg

I don't want this stadium redeveloped. I don't care if the new stands behind the goals improve views of the field. The redevelopment will make the stadium look bad. You use an oval stadium for the World cup and in three years, you get redeveloped into a terrible football-specific stadium. And did the stadium undergo renovations for the 2006 World Cup?

They built a new 2nd tier at the East stand.

Everybody wants a footballstadium. So it will be built :D

^^Well, then they should have thought about turning it into a rectangle before the 2006 World Cup. I sill do not want a (rectangular) footballstadium transformed from an oval footballstadium. I ain't gonna like it. The new stadium is gonna be a terrible one and I like the current situation better.

Also, have there been other examples of rectangular stadiums renovated from old oval stadiums?

City do not allowed because they bid for IAAF World Athletics Final and won it.
It hosted the IAAF World Athletics Final 2006, 2007 and 2008

IAAF Final in Stuttgart for 2006~2008 three consecutive years? Isn't it held every 4 years like FIFA World cup?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAAF_World_Athletics_Final

http://www.stadionwelt.de/neu/sw_stadien/images/news/1228498264.jpg

see here: http://www.stadionwelt.de/neu/sw_stadien/index.php?folder=sites&site=news_detail&news_id=2694

When are they expected to start the construction? I can't wait to see the final output!

http://www.stadionwelt.de/neu/sw_stadien/images/news/1228498264.jpg


hm...there is still a lot of space between the stand and the pitch.

Another pic
http://e.imagehost.org/0856/mba.jpg

Also, have there been other examples of rectangular stadiums renovated from old oval stadiums?
They're just doing that right now in Bremen...

Everybody wants a footballstadium. So it will be built :D
Not everybody :P It was blocked by those crazy athletics lovers once ;)

Does anyone know if the current second tier of the main stand is going to be kept or is it going to be demolished to make a smaller more so that the second tier is a continuos bowl?
I hope the second tier is similar to the third tier at Shakhtar, I hope they do it would look terrific much better and refreshing from a boring 2 tier cookie cutter bowl that is the norm.

I hope the second tier is similar to the third tier at Shakhtar, I hope they do it would look terrific much better and refreshing from a boring 2 tier cookie cutter bowl that is the norm.

they are pretty much restricted by the current roof so I wouldn't sount on it...

They will just built new endzone stand.

Stands at the sights will stay

Btw does anyone know what's going on in the redevelopment project where they are planning to convert Mercedes Benz Arena into football specific stadium with no tracks?

^^ This project is unlikely to go ahead. Good stadium currently. Bad stadium in the future.

^^ Athletics stadiums are never good stadiums for football, Never i tell ya.

^^ This project is unlikely to go ahead. Good stadium currently. Bad stadium in the future.
Is this any confirmed/official info or just your estimations?

^^ Athletics stadiums are never good stadiums for football, Never i tell ya.
Well said.

You might call me a p#$$y for saying this, but I like athletics stadiums. I also like few rectangular stadiums that have been converted from oval stadiums.

You might call me a p#$$y for saying this, but I like athletics stadiums. I also like few rectangular stadiums that have been converted from oval stadiums.


YOU'RE A PU$$Y!!11:lol:

And did the stadium undergo renovations for the 2006 World Cup?About 25 millions, mainly for infrastructure and the 2nd tier at the East stand. Those renovations won´t be touched.

^^Well, then they should have thought about turning it into a rectangle before the 2006 World Cup.They built a new 2nd tier at the East stand.That´s the problem. They should have rebuilt the complete East stand before WC 2006, namely moving it nearer to the field. Now it still is little steep and the proportions between East stand´s tiers are unfavourable. In contrast the main stand is really good-looking.

Unfortunately the field can be lowered down only circa 1 meter, since Stuttgart owns Western Europe´s largest occurence of mineral water and some springs reside near the stadium. Otherwise adding more rows would be possible - resulting in higher capacity and closeness to the field.

It'll just be a frakked-up stadium with rectangular stands and a oval roof.:yes: For that reason the arena is hardly gonna look optimal as if it were designed from scratch.


Also, have there been other examples of rectangular stadiums renovated from old oval stadiums?Hannover, to some extent.

Timetable (so far only in German): http://www.vfb.de/de/mercedes_benz_arena/konzeption/umbauphasen

Timetable (so far only in German): http://www.vfb.de/de/mercedes_benz_arena/konzeption/umbauphasen

The timetable in German says the renovation will start on May 2009 and finish on Dec 2011??????????????

May 2009... Say goodbye to the Gottlieb-Daimier-Stadion I know and love and in two years say hello to the stadium I'm gonna hate for the rest of my life.

http://www.vize.com/?p=1
animation

ugly 2nd tier

official website: http://www.mercedes-benz-arena.de

they gonna start with reconstruction on 18/05

I found simple and pretty

Another football specific stadium with the size of Emirates Stadium... Very very good

not very original. Isn't there a stadium under construction in South Africa that this looks like?

I'm dissapointed with the size and the lack of ambition, but it will do. German stadiums are easier to increase through terracing, just look at hamburg!

not very original. Isn't there a stadium under construction in South Africa that this looks like?

no, i don't see any resemblance to the ones being built here.

Today the work officially started so I think the thread can be moved to "under construction"

Webcam

http://s274630103.online.de/mercedes-benz-arena/webcam/live/live.jpg

And so the total frack-up of the soon-to-be-ex-Gottlieb Daimler Stadium has begun.

And I am sticking with my opinion on the stadium's new shape. I hate it, the stadium's roof will not match the new stands behind the goals properly even if its extended, and there is nothing you can say to do to change my mind. They should have either completely demolished the stadium and built a new football-only stadium, or they should have built a new 45,000 seat stadium elsewhere in Stuttgart.

This stadium was sustainable before its redevelopment, and it will be an insustainable white elephant after its redevelopment. RIP, the good Gottlieb Daimier Stadium 1933-2009.

^^ $???

^^ $???

Yes, but then again less successful clubs have managed to build a new ground aswell. I guess theres just no willingness by the club to risk taking up a big loan, and the city seems to be equally sceptical when it comes to financing a new stadium.

Btw what's the exact capacity? 58K or 60K? I remember it was 58K in the thread title a few days ago.

i changed the title to 60k on 2nd Jul 2008 :D
Old one was just with the current capacit of ~56k

18 bombs have been found under the pitch of the Arena.
The dud-bombs where droped by english bombers in the year 1944 while a bombing of the Mercedes Benz factories which are near to the stadium.

A team of specialists deactivated the bombs and the works at the Arena can go on.

18 bombs have been found under the pitch of the Arena.
The dud-bombs where droped by english bombers in the year 1944 while a bombing of the Mercedes Benz factories which are near to the stadium.

A team of specialists deactivated the bombs and the works at the Arena can go on.

That means people have been playing and watching football for over 70 years on top of 18 bombs? It was built in 1933! LOL:rofl:

^^ they find unexploded bombs from WW2 suprisingly regularly in London/the UK, it's not uncommon at all for this sort of thing to happen

18 just until now, they might find some more.

Interestingly there´s no hint for bombs on the pitch in this aerial (http://www.rp.baden-wuerttemberg.de/servlet/PB/show/1039461/rps_ref14_kmb_luftbild.jpg), which was taken shortly before the end of WWII.

http://www.vfb.de

wow, nice project ;)

http://www.vfb.de/media/images/news_2009/02_kurve_abriss_05_06_09_348x348.jpg
http://www.vfb.de/media/images/news_2009/07_kurve_abriss_05_06_09_348x348.jpg
http://www.vfb.de/media/images/news_2009/09_kurve_abriss_05_06_09_348x348.jpg
http://www.vfb.de/media/images/news_2009/01_kurve_abriss_05_06_09_348x348.jpg
http://www.vfb.de/media/images/news_2009/06_kurve_abriss_05_06_09_348x348.jpg
http://www.vfb.de/media/images/news_2009/04_kurve_abriss_05_06_09_348x348.jpg
http://www.vfb.de/media/images/news_2009/10_kurve_abriss_05_06_09_348x348.jpg

Noooo this was a great stadium!! :ohno:
I hope they leave it as good as it was!!!

^^No they will not. I already said several times that the reconfigured Mercedes-Benz Arena will be a terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad stadium.

No, the reconfigured Mercedes-Benz Arena will be a fantastic, comfortable, full-good, very good stadium.

Very average looking stadium At least they get rid of the running track.

Very average looking stadium At least they get rid of the running track.

Yeah IMO it has never been one of Germany's best, but removing the running track so the capacity is increased and football fans are properly served is a good thing. This is afterall primarily a football ground, not an athletics stadium.

Carrerra: Well, if it was that way, they should have left the lower tier alone and just added a second tier to the stadium.

And another thing: i hae Mercedez-Benz. Are they responsible for this bad restructuration?

Carrerra: Well, if it was that way, they should have left the lower tier alone and just added a second tier to the stadium.

Because they wanted to pull the bottom bowl towards the pitch so it would hug it in a rectangular shape. As someone who has sat at the ends of oval cricket stadiums for football matches, it sucks being that far away. It makes it so much better and basically, the athletics track made football watching bad.

And another thing: i hae Mercedez-Benz. Are they responsible for this bad restructuration?

I very much doubt a car company would have that much influence in the stadium reconstruction, but that's me. Probably got more important things on their plate right now like trying to sell cars.

^^I guess football-specific stadiums have to be a comfort zone for everybody here at SSC, huh?

^^No they will not. I already said several times that the reconfigured Mercedes-Benz Arena will be a terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad stadium.

What have you got against it?

I just liked the old stadium's look better. And I bet the conversion of Bremen's Weserstadium is better than this project.

jim stop with your football specific stadium bashing, athletics stadiums have no place in football and if they can't sustain themselves on their own at that capacity then so be it. Priority should be given to the sport which actually sustains the venue and the fans who use it on a regular basis!

^^I guess football-specific stadiums have to be a comfort zone for everybody here at SSC, huh?

They don't have to be they just are. Speaking from experience, athletic stadiums used for football suck from a fans perspective and football should be doing everything it can to support the fan especially with the increase in ticket sales among other things. Trust me 99% of Stuttgartians (?) will be happy with this move. Anyway, you're the guy about sustainability, this stadium will be even more sustainable with more fans and more happy fans of this stadium. :banana:

Ignore what Jim856796 says about football stadium conversion from athletic one. Basically he's anti-football, so, he's always against the conversion whether the original athletic stadium in good shape or not. From his perspective, a football stadium is at its best with huge gaps from stands with running tracks around the pitch.

^^Not too huge, though. I don't bash all football-specific stadiums. You know that Soccer City, San Siro Stadium, Santigo Bernabeu, Camp Nou, Wembley Stadium, Monumental U, Saitama Sadium, Suncorp Stadium, Sukru Saracoglu, and the Westfalenstadion, and several others are among some of the greatest rectangular football specific stadiums in the world. I am not completel anti-football (soccer). I was only against this conversion and not the convetsion in Bremen.

And one more thing: the Jornalisto Mario Filho Stadium is a oval, but that stadium does NOT have athletics track.

Then he can't pretend to be about sustainability (which his sig and the bit underneith his name says) since many stadiums used for football struggle when they have an athletics track and do much better without. You don't see many football stadiums being built with a track and that's for a good reason. Bad crowds, bad stadium, sucks for fans. If you look at the stadiums that get the most attendances and money, they have no athletics tracks. Stuttgart needs money to sustain their success, good luck to them.

^^Not too huge, though. I don't bash all football-specific stadiums. You know that Soccer City, San Siro stadium, Santigo Bernabeu, Camp Now, Wembley Stadium, Monumental U, Saitama Sadium, Suncorp Stadium, Sukru Saracoglu, and the Westfalenstadion, and several others are among some of the greatest rectangular football specific stadiums in the world. I am not completel anti-football (soccer). I was only against this conversion and not the convetsion in Bremen.

What's wrong with this one? Better for the fans. Do you go to sports events? I do and I like stadiums and clubs keeping fans' needs in mind.

Today the work officially started so I think the thread can be moved to "under construction"

Webcam

http://s274630103.online.de/mercedes-benz-arena/webcam/live/live.jpg

i like something like this because i hate athletic stadiums

Ditto. Plus I love capacity increases. Good for business and good for fans. Only 2,000 I know but still!

As far as I know the capacity rises by 4K(56K->60K) from this work.

looks really nice..

http://vfb.de/de/mercedes_benz_arena/konzeption/visualisierung/

Impressive :cheers:

Impressive :cheers:

Indeed it is :)

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/rudel_mba-rasen26_348x348.jpghttp://vfb.de/media/images/arena/rudel_mba-rasen27_348x348.jpghttp://vfb.de/media/images/arena/rudel_mba-rasen26_348x348.jpg

need to push this thread a little.. :)

so they just demolished the stand without lowering the pitch?

nope, they lowered the pitch about 1,50m and added some new rows.

When will the new stand be finished?
What's the capacity of the stadium while it's being constructed?

Are those red seats going to be the official seats of this stadium? Or are they going to change them?

The red seats may have to stay the same.

here you can see some of the rows that have been added:
http://www.vfb.de/media/images/news_2009/sitze_4_348x348.jpghttp://www.vfb.de/media/images/news_2009/sitze_14_348x348.jpg

^^ That's good, that will increase the capacity even more :)

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/15082009%20329.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/15082009%20331.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/15082009%20332.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/15082009%20335.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/15082009%20336.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/15082009%20337.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/15082009%20338.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/15082009%20342.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/15082009%20343.jpg

Capacity for this season is apparently about 42k.

Please post smaller resolution pics,we can still see them!

^^if u find better ones, feel free to post them...

When are they going to work on the foundations on the South part of the stadium (I believe) where there is nothing but sand?

When are they going to work on the foundations on the South part of the stadium (I believe) where there is nothing but sand?
july/august '09 until june '10

http://s274630103.online.de/mercedes-benz-arena/index.php?tacoma=webpart.pages.TacomaDynamicPage&navid=4353&coid=4353&cid=0&tacomasid=c930a19c58538a7c03631be972ad29fd
^^only in german

First the roof, then the stand. Interesting. It's usually the other way round. Oh well. The French always do things their own way, don't they?

First the roof, then the stand. Interesting. It's usually the other way round. Oh well. The French always do things their own way, don't they?

The roof was already there.

First the roof, then the stand. Interesting. It's usually the other way round. Oh well. The French always do things their own way, don't they?

:nuts::nuts::nuts:

First the roof, then the stand. Interesting. It's usually the other way round. Oh well. The French always do things their own way, don't they?

http://givingmylife.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/fail.jpg

All of it was an epic fail...

I like the seats very much

what was the original capacity??

First the roof, then the stand. Interesting. It's usually the other way round. Oh well. The French always do things their own way, don't they?

Umm, you know that Stuttgart is in Germany, not France :lol:

:hahano:

First the roof, then the stand. Interesting. It's usually the other way round. Oh well. The French always do things their own way, don't they?

Thats because the workers don't like rain :lol:

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/15082009%20329.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/15082009%20336.jpg


I assume the first rows are for wheelchair users and their helpers?

what was the original capacity??
55,896

Thats because the workers don't like rain :lol:

:lol:

I hope they wont mess up since the roof came in first :)

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/29082009%20003.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/29082009%20004.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Aug/29082009%20005.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.04.10/03102009%20119.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.04.10/03102009%20120.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.04.10/03102009%20121.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.04.10/03102009%20124.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.04.10/03102009%20123.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.04.10/03102009%20129.jpg

some new pictures:

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Dez/05122009%20001.jpg
http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Dez/05122009%20002.jpg
http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Dez/05122009%20004.jpg
http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Dez/05122009%20005.jpg
http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Dez/05122009%20007.jpg
http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Dez/05122009%20031.jpg

this is similar to what will be done to ANZ stadium

yeah i think the stand will be great when finished
http://www.mercedes-benz-arena.de/filerepository/HpyzNVL78MPhDhNtx2yJ.jpg

^^ classy

There´s some special reason for the second tier not be completed as you see in the upper right corner?

It will be the same on the other side. the main stand will be separated from the rest optically. I think it is because the main stand's second tier is higher. Otherwise there would be a kind of a sharp bend.

a few more renders from asp Architects Stuttgart (also the architects for Türk Telecom Arena Istanbul)

http://www.asp-stuttgart.de/data/photos//617_MBA/source/image/617_mba01.jpg
http://www.asp-stuttgart.de/data/photos//617_MBA/source/image/617_mba02.jpg
http://www.asp-stuttgart.de/data/photos//617_MBA/source/image/617_mba03.jpg
http://www.asp-stuttgart.de/data/photos//617_MBA/source/image/617_mba04.jpg
http://www.asp-stuttgart.de/data/photos//617_MBA/source/image/617_mba05.jpg
http://www.asp-stuttgart.de/data/photos//617_MBA/source/image/617_mba08.jpg
http://www.asp-stuttgart.de/data/photos//617_MBA/source/image/617_mba09.jpg

here are also 2 pictures I made with my cell phone before the champions league game against FC Sevilla. There wasn't much progress on the untertürkheim stand, but maybe you can get a feeling for what the arena will look like when finished :)
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7453/foto0076h.jpghttp://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7335/foto0075m.jpg

I already begin to hate this type of roof :lol: . London, Warsaw, Kiev, Bucharest, Wien, Stuttgart...

Hah, but in Warsaw roof will be also above the pitch

Amazing photos and can't wait until finished

how much terracing will this stadium have?

how much terracing will this stadium have?

about 10.000 in the new cannstatt sand. Here is a picture

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2139/stehpltze.jpg

^^ cheers, why so little? surely if they fill the whole of the lower tier of the cannsatt stand the capacity would be even bigger?

^^ cheers, why so little? surely if they fill the whole of the lower tier of the cannsatt stand the capacity would be even bigger?

10.000 is already an increase. Currently only a small part (about one third on the left side behind the goal) of the Cannstatt Curve is for terrarcing - about 6.000 people. So I think the ambiance will be great.

Fair enough I was just thinking clubs like Dortmund and Schalke have 16,000 and 25,000 and Stuttgart is a bigger city, and a big club also, hey ho!

Just another question (sorry), what's the distance between the stands and the pitch it doesn't look as bad as in the first render I saw. It looks better than the emirates at least!

Oh and another question what's happened to stuggarter kickers, do people in stuttgart still support them?

yeah you're right....but Dortmund, the Signal Iduna Park and maybe also Schalke are a completely a class of it's own. Bayern München with it's 70k Allianz Arena and by far the most fans in Germany does have 13.000. So 10.000 sounds like a good number to me =)

concerning the pitch..I don't know exactly. The only numbers I found are saying that the distance between the ditch for the stewards and the goal line is 8.50 to 9.80 meters.

Stuttgart had a bad coach this season. Now they got a new one. They already won the last 2 champions league games and also the last bundesliga game vs. Hoffenheim....so it is going up =) we're looking forward to the champions league game vs. FC Barcelona :banana:

pictures from 19.12.09

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Dez/Sta%20hoffe/19122009%20020.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Dez/Sta%20hoffe/19122009%20021.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Dez/Sta%20hoffe/19122009%20022.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Dez/Sta%20hoffe/19122009%20024.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta.Dez/Sta%20hoffe/19122009%20026.jpg

al lot of building materials were delivered in the last days, so maybe cunstruction will speed up again =)
they should soon start with the columns for the sports hall....these will also carry the upper levels of the stand.

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9048/livexf.jpg

Update: good progress last week.
This week the prefabricated parts for the two staircases should be delivered, the ground floor of the sports hall should be concreted and the outside round wall of the sports hall should be finished too.
The first tier parts are expected for the first week of february.

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/arena190110_1_348x348.jpg
http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/arena190110_2_348x348.jpg
http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/arena190110_3_348x348.jpg
http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/arena190110_4_348x348.jpg
http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/arena190110_5_348x348.jpg
http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/arena190110_6_348x348.jpg
http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/arena190110_7_348x348.jpg
http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/arena190110_8_348x348.jpg
http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/arena190110_9_348x348.jpg
http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/arena190110_10_348x348.jpg

more pcitures showing the new Untertürkheim stand. I know some of you like all these little facts and numbers :)

http://www.allianz-volley-stuttgart.de/filerepository/FB7zHkYw8vFHMsfe7UVd.jpg
http://www.manfredbauer.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/arena.jpg

and a bigger pciture of the sports hall

http://www.allianz-volley-stuttgart.de/filerepository/6Zddr5rsbKSEPxtAvyHe.jpg

so first tier has got 45 row?

yeah seems so. the first tier is not very steep, but of course they had to adapt it to the ENBW stand.

first parts of the tier arrived :banana:

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4238/live112.jpg

Some pictures VFBSchreiner took on sunday when Stuttgart played vs. Borussia Dortmund (4:1 :banana:)

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/31.01.10/31012010%20001.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/31.01.10/31012010%20002.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/31.01.10/31012010%20004.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/31.01.10/31012010%20006.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/31.01.10/31012010%20007.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/31.01.10/31012010%20009.jpg

I also made a small timelapse gif =)
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9038/timelapse1.gif

how come the stand behind the other goal is not lowered ? Are there plans to lower that part too?

Also just a couple of weeks ago Stuttgart was in relegation zone, now they are in the middle of the table...kinda of disappointing considering the fact that the team finished 3rd last season.

how come the stand behind the other goal is not lowered ? Are there plans to lower that part too?

Also just a couple of weeks ago Stuttgart was in relegation zone, now they are in the middle of the table...kinda of disappointing considering the fact that the team finished 3rd last season.

the stand/curve behind the other goal will be demolished by the end of the current season in june. Therefore this stand has to be completed in august when the new season starts.
They do not rebuild both stands at the same time because Stuttgart wanted a minimum capacity of around 41.000

Like I said: Stuttgart had a bad coach. They did not lose a game since they fired him. In the last 5 games they made more points than in the 15 with the old coach. If this streak continues they could make to Euro League.

the stand/curve behind the other goal will be demolished by the end of the current season in june. Therefore this stand has to be completed in august when the new season starts.
They do not rebuild both stands at the same time because Stuttgart wanted a minimum capacity of around 41.000

Like I said: Stuttgart had a bad coach. They did not lose a game since they fired him. In the last 5 games they made more points than in the 15 with the old coach. If this streak continues they could make to Euro League.

Ahhh smart move... I like the renovation, makes it look much football like and not Olympic with the running track around it...

Yup, im sure if they continue they will make the European League....unless they mess up in the months to come....Wolfsburg has the same problem, but so far with their new coach they managed to just draw....and they face bayern next so they will probably lose or darw...if they win its going to be a huge surprise...

also Stuttgart faces Nurnberg next...should be a easy victory...

update:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/743/bild1ox.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8312/bild2o.jpg

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6761/bild3bq.jpg

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5229/bild4g.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4841/bild5a.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9546/bild6ij.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7197/bild7t.jpg

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8052/bild8n.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/704/bild9b.jpg

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5950/bild10f.jpg

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/627/bild11v.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3294/bild12j.jpg

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6223/bild13un.jpg

www.mercedes-benz-arena.de

today:

http://www.mercedes-benz-arena.de/filerepository/KU8VLURMAhvh5ryGnYBa.jpg

http://www.mercedes-benz-arena.de/filerepository/WT4maNLwHSZedW6wAkXn.jpg

www.mercedes-benz-arena.de

are the fans happy with the new stands?

what capacity for international matches?

very nice stadium :)

are the fans happy with the new stands?

Well the ones I know are very happy :) Most of the fans did not like the running track. I visited some games this year and was standing in the fan-block...the atmosphere is always great in Suttgart, but the sight from the curve isn't the best. You can hardly see what's happening at the other goal side when you're in the lower area of the curve.

I also like the fact that the new stands have a second tier, even if it has only 10 rows.
There will also be a big fan-pub in the new Canstatt-stand :cheers:

There are always some guys who say "leave the stadium like it is", but I believe that everyone will be happy once the stadium is finished.

@likasz: I don't know yet. The capacity was 53.198 during the world cup....I think it will be around 55.000

There is another problem with round tiers from fans point of view... The sound comes later to the stand sides so its hard to control singing from middle to the sides of the stand... ;)

Watch and learn Werder Bremen...

yeah seems so. the first tier is not very steep, but of course they had to adapt it to the ENBW stand.I also like the fact that the new stands have a second tier, even if it has only 10 rows.Just okay for rural Stuttgart.

Thx 4ze Pix

update:

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7084/34440543.jpg

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/7533/54456089.jpg

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/9548/89302447.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2764/75359247.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2469/26199792.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5720/28880588.jpg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1630/91631518.jpg

www.mercedes-benz-arena.de

This was a nice stadium before reconstruction, but I can't say this is a bad project. Anyway, I will be missing that green atlethics track :(

pictures from 13.02.

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20001.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20003.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20029.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20040.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20041.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20042.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20043.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20044.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20046.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20048.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20049.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20050.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20051.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/13.02.10/13022010%20053.jpg

old:
http://www.eventbuero.com/pics/lci_49_l.jpg

new:
http://www.stuttgart.de/img/mdb/item/278950/37861.jpg

but this must be an old plan. Unfortunately it does no show the second tier of the new stands and the two upper tunnels are still where they are now. It will look more like this:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5213/37861.jpg

Nice project! :okay:
But i don't understand how this stadium will get at the end of renovation works to a capacity of 60.000?? It's a difference of 20.000 compared to the old capacity! I understand that the pitch was lowered, but 20.000 is still too much(a small stadium) and by eliminating the athletics track the capacity should actually decrease?! Will the roof be lifted somehow for new stands???

ohoh, the current capacity is 40,000 due to the construction site ;)
the old capacity was 55,896.

ohoh, the current capacity is 40,000 due to the construction site ;)
the old capacity was 55,896.

I still don't understand. The stadium gets smaller if you take out the running tracks. Unless the stands get higher......
Otherwise if the capacity now is 40.000 than it means that the one stand which is being built on the photos will alone have 20.000 ???

I still don't understand. The stadium gets smaller if you take out the running tracks. Unless the stands get higher......
Otherwise if the capacity now is 40.000 than it means that the one stand which is being built on the photos will alone have 20.000 ???

not exactly... the two new stands + the 5 rows that have been added to the existing main stand and the ENBW stand will increase the capacity to 60.000. You have to consider that the new stands have a second tier with 10 rows and a first tier with 45 rows....so they are quite massive.

and no, the roof won't be lifted. It will be expanded to the middle because now it is not covering the complete new stand

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5213/37861.jpg
But distance pitch-new stands looks more than 7,5m

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5213/37861.jpg
But distance pitch-new stands looks more than 7,5m

totally agree. Definitely more than 7.5 meters. Don't know what happened to this plans. Do you know the lates UEFA/FIFA regulations?

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2024/live1.jpg

its actually still 7,5. But know they say 7,5, but 10m is better.
But can still use 7,5m :)

Maybe its just the plan of the first asp version.
I remember the first one hat just 1 tier at the goalstands

I've got to say I don't like the second tier, but still positive to make it a solely football stadium.

I noticed that one of the stands was under constructions yesterday during the game.

jap....too bad they didn't have full capacity in this game...stadium of this year's champions league winner ^^^^ höhö

and yes sercan...must be an earlier version of the arena.

the old one i meant
http://www.pro-vfb-stadion.de/stadionskizze.jpg
as far as i remember at this version distance was 7,5m

wow I've never seen that before. But this picture shows a lowering of the pitch of 4 meters? and a new curve instead of a straight stand. I'm glad they didn't decide to do something like this.

No. New goal stands were planned as normal stands. Not curve :)
The new ones were even stepper and closer than the real ones which are u/c :

what's the new capacity???

what's the new capacity???
lol?!? just read the last posts.........

27th of February

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20017.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20050.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20087.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20091.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20094.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20097.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20101.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20105.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20108.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20110.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20111.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20119.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/27.02.10/27022010%20122.jpg

Too flat.

update:

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9638/arena8.jpg

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6391/arena20.jpg

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6666/arena19.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6185/arena18.jpg

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/7710/arena17.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7913/arena16.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4520/arena14.jpg

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5120/arena13.jpg

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6011/arena12.jpg

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/7986/arena11.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5089/arena10v.jpg

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4558/arena9.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3353/arena7.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7673/arena5.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8986/arena4.jpg

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3118/arena3.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2040/arena2m.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2347/arena1d.jpg

www.mercedes-benz-arena.de

Fantastic shots! The perspectives are amazing and we can clearly see the progress!

No offense Bremen fans but this project impresses me more. They haven't tried to merge two curved lines, they're got rid of the corners and rebuilt them so they're coming from a straight line instead of a curved line, so you don't get the dog's breakfast which is Bremen's right corner on the end they're currently doing (everyone knows what I'm talking about, right?)

Oh and it's good to see sun in Stuttgart and Europe in general, good for building times. :cheers:

It will be great stadium although the pace is little slow.

update:

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6100/bild8p.jpg

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5056/bild7g.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3641/bild6o.jpg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/47/bild5yw.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5002/bild4j.jpg

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9498/bild3js.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3275/bild2h.jpg

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7413/bild1w.jpg

some pictures I made on Saturday

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4055/foto0087p.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8117/foto0086r.jpg

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6448/foto0071m.jpg

also from last Saturday

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/20.03.10/20032010%20002.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/20.03.10/20032010%20003.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/20.03.10/20032010%20005.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/20.03.10/20032010%20007.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/20.03.10/20032010%20008.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/20.03.10/20032010%20010.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/20.03.10/20032010%20012.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/20.03.10/20032010%20013.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/20.03.10/20032010%20014.jpg

http://www.vfbschreiner.de/VfB%20Schreiner%203/Bilder/Stadionumbau/Sta2010/20.03.10/20032010%20015.jpg

Very Bery Pery good.

found a great picture of the roof construction =)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/2391240640_7a0db40487_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/laurenmanning/2391240640/

and an areal view
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8816/p1090353ic4.jpg

Just to clarify. Is this 60,000 all-seated or 60,000 with terraces? If it's with terraces, then what will the all-seated capacity be?

Just to clarify. Is this 60,000 all-seated or 60,000 with terraces? If it's with terraces, then what will the all-seated capacity be?

it's 60.000 with terraces. I still don't know the final capacity for international matches but it should be around 55.000

60,000 including terraces? I was thinking the number of seats is 60,000. Thanks for the info.

60,000 including terraces? I was thinking the number of seats is 60,000. Thanks for the info.

There will be a terracing area for 10.000 fans behind the north goal (the Canstatt stand that will be demolished after this season).
You can see it in the picture below. The stand will be all-seated, but i think with folding seats in this area.

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2139/stehpltze.jpg

Update (pictures were made on 1st of April)

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9638/arena8.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3353/arena7.jpg

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5512/arena6.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6169/arena5k.jpg

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8986/arena4.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6752/arena3d.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2848/arena2x.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3047/arena1m.jpg

www.mercedes-benz-arena.de

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7913/arena16.jpg

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/2448/arena15.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4520/arena14.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5306/arena13y.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6011/arena12.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7986/arena11.jpg

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I think this is were the final height of the first tier (45 rows) is reached.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2826/livea.jpg

I like the main-stand it has a touch of old trafford :)

Maybe some of you havn't seen this video yet =)

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Thanks for the video and the photos ;)

The contruction site looks so clean!

What is the atmosphere like in this stadium? With the huge open gap between the stands and the roof it must be difficult to generate any whatsoever?

What is the atmosphere like in this stadium? With the huge open gap between the stands and the roof it must be difficult to generate any whatsoever?

In the curve where the terracing is the atmosphere is always great ^^
I think it will be much better with the new stands (more terracing^^)

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Bye Bye Cannstatt-stand!
Todays game in Stuttgart was the last one with the old cannstatt-stand. Soon it will be demolished.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1082/cannstatterkurve2.jpg

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5447/cannstatterkurve.jpg

update

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and a new Webcam showing the demolition of canstatt-stand
http://www.mercedes-benz-arena.de/webcam/live2/live2.jpg

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14.05.10

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6900/live20100514.jpg

Just looking at these pictures again, and wondering, why did they not bring the new stands in even closer to the park?

I'm assuming the idea is to bring them in to improve the ground as a football stadium, but there still seems to be a fair sized gap from the goalline to the front of the new stand, which seems a bit of a missed opportunity to make this as good as possible, IMO.

^^If I´m not mistaken the stadium must have a gap of 7,5m(?) between the stand and the pitch.

The stands that are being dismantled had steps that are two narrow for regular seating. A row of seating is added every third step. The new stands are going to have wider steps for regular seating, despite one of the stands being a standing-only area. It's still going to be a weird stadium with rectangular stands and a oval roof, that just ain't natural in a stadium.

Indeed it looks weird. The roof is great and I understand why they kept it, but the roof and the new stands simply doesn't fit together. Does the roof even cover all seats?

^^Roof's probably going to be extended to be that way. I wish back in 1992 that this stadium were redeveloped into a football-only stadium and a smaller athletics stadium (35k capacity would be constructed elsewhere in Stuttgart. Otherwise, if this stadium or its roof were kept as an oval, these renovations could ruin the look of the stadium and its roof.

Indeed it looks weird. The roof is great and I understand why they kept it, but the roof and the new stands simply doesn't fit together. Does the roof even cover all seats?

Yes the roof is going to be extended in 2011

update:

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3552/neuesbild11.jpg

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Thanks for the update!

They won´t remove the pitch right? Amazing how the grass looks absolutely great with all that work around.

Just looking at these pictures again, and wondering, why did they not bring the new stands in even closer to the park?

I'm assuming the idea is to bring them in to improve the ground as a football stadium, but there still seems to be a fair sized gap from the goalline to the front of the new stand, which seems a bit of a missed opportunity to make this as good as possible, IMO.

Yes, it looks as if the gap was more than 7,5 meters. Maybe 10-12 meters, I'd guess.

The reasons should be quite obvious:

- a bigger gap means that a sufficient extension of the roof needs to be smaller as well. The closer the first row is to the pitch, the more new roof has to be installed, what means more tricky and expensive constructions. For the last rows, there is an existing roof anyway.
- a bigger gap means than not so uch of main and opposite stand have to be cut off. Those two stands just have been totally reconstructed in the last decades, every meter to be cut off means the expenses for the reconstruction dont pay anymore, ans every more meter to be cut off costs something like 100 seats (taken 50 rows for example). So if you bring both ends 5 meters closer to the pitch, you lose a total of 20 meters on main and opposite stand and a total of roundabout 2.000 seats.


All these things don't make sense if you already have existing stands and an existing roof that are still in excellent condition.

update:

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Now that I watched this update I was wondering...won´t be a difference in the colours between the old seats and the new ones? They will all be red right but the "used" ones will look different from the new ones...

The roof sucks ...

Now that I watched this update I was wondering...won´t be a difference in the colours between the old seats and the new ones? They will all be red right but the "used" ones will look different from the new ones...

Those seats that were in a good condition will be used in the new stand again. Then I think that all seats were not installed at the same time. The seats in the main stand should be newer.

Too flat, too bad :(

Those seats that were in a good condition will be used in the new stand again. Then I think that all seats were not installed at the same time. The seats in the main stand should be newer.

Oh yes, I forgot that they didn´t destroy the old seats...
thanks for the info ;)

they changed the angle of the webcam a bit. Now you can also see the first parts of the second tier =)

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2165/livekt.jpg

update:

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update:

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Looks like the best organized mess in a stadium construction :D

Swabians :D everything is planned =)

Much better than in Bremen... :okay:

thanks =)

first seats
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4482/liveqo.jpg

Much better than in Bremen... :okay:

Great shout! I'd say Bremen fans are more than a little miffed at the difference between how the two clubs went about doing the same job of removing the curves

so seats will be the same?

Pamirez, it looks like we (aslantepe.biz9 will visit asp next tuesday. Do you have any questions to them :)

so seats will be the same?

Pamirez, it looks like we (aslantepe.biz9 will visit asp next tuesday. Do you have any questions to them :)

yes i think so....as they use some of the old seats too.

You could ask them for pictures and plans of the Cannstatt stand :D if it will also have a round shape on the outside, interior, fan bar and so on =)

OK, no problem. Hope it will work. Still its not 100% clear

good luck =)

Much better than in Bremen... :okay:

Not hard...

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/752/livej.jpg

http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/752/livej.jpg^^

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www.mercedes-benz-arena.de

i know the capacity is 60000 but how many are seated and standing?
also this is much more impressive than werder bremens although bremens is still quite good

10.000 standing (folding seats) and about 50k seated
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2139/stehpltze.jpg

10.000 standing (folding seats) and about 50k seated
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2139/stehpltze.jpg

thanks
BTW very nice pictures you posted

the second tier is growing. This stand should be ready soon :banana:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9076/livex.jpg

some small pictures from VFB homepage:

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/ukzielgerade_1_348x348.jpg

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/ukzielgerade_2_348x348.jpg

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/ukzielgerade_3_348x348.jpg

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/ukzielgerade_4_348x348.jpg

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/ukzielgerade_5_348x348.jpg

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/ukzielgerade_7_348x348.jpg

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/ukzielgerade_8_348x348.jpg

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/ukzielgerade_9_348x348.jpg

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/ukzielgerade_11_348x348.jpg

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/ukzielgerade_13_348x348.jpg

http://vfb.de/media/images/arena/ukzielgerade_12_348x348.jpg

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