wen it was made de red part Bitxofo?

It was made 30 years ago to carry goods!!
But since May 23rd 2005, it is also for trains with people. Line 7.
;)

I see, thanks!!

Lisbon subway and rail system; the subway is small, onli 38 km and 48 stations, but he made conection with all rail systems except the line Praias do Sado/Barreiro, in thys line the conection with Lisbon center is made by both (line Cais do Sodre/cascais, line Alverca/Sintra, line Azambuja/Lisboa, Line Areeiro/Setubal), subway map:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/mirim1/linhadometrolx.gif
-line Praias do Sado/Barreiro - 38 km, in thys line we can take the train to Algarve:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/mirim1/linhadosado.gif
the both station and both:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/mirim1/BarreiroA.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/mirim1/BarreiroB.jpg http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/mirim1/BarreiroC.jpg http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/mirim1/BarreiroD.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/catamaran1.jpg
-line Areeiro (Lisbon)/Setubal - 54 km, thys line across the bridge under the Tagus River:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/fertagus00.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/fertagus12.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/fertagus03.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/fertagus06.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/fertagus18.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/mirim1/estacaopnovo.jpg
-line Alverca/Sintra - 68 km, we can take eare the train to Figueira da foz and Torres Vedras and use part of the line and the same train of the line Azambuja/Lisbon:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/mirim1/linhadesintra.gif
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/mirim1/linhadaazambuja1.jpg
-line Azambuja/Lisbon - 50 km, thys line goes to Oporto and north of Portugal too:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/mirim1/linhadaazambuja.gif
-line Cais do Sodre/Cascais - 30 km:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/mirim1/linhadecascais.gif
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/mirim1/linhadecascais1.jpg

^^ I love Lisboa metro!
Stations are so beautiful...
:wink2:
Muito obrigado!!
;)

thanks Bitxofo :)

Thanks Arpels for the details, I added 240km for commuter rail to Lisbon, at the beginning post of this thread.

wellcome :okay: sorry in relation to Oporto I dont have datos about Oporto subway and rail system :(

I went this Christmas to Lisboa and I spent a morning riding on local trains.

It has imporved a lot in the last 10 years... Specially Fertagus, with modern, light and big stations in the South side of the Tejo river.

I have been searching for lenght of the Lisboa's suburbans lines but I have not found anything. What I have is the number of trains per line.

Number of daily trains per line
Sintra - 354
Cascais - 279 (106.292 passenger per day)
Azambuja - 163
Sado - 62
Fertagus - ?

:cheers:

I try to find that too but I dont find anythink abouth Fertagus, line Areeiro/Setubal, with substance :( yes in 10 ears the situation improve a lot, I stil thinking that the subway is to small but they have some new planes to expancion, lets see waths apenn, next yeare the south banc of the river Tagus wil have a new metro between Monte da Caparica and Cacilhas (the both station in Almada) with 12 stations and a line between Corroios and Cacilhas with 7 stations

@Justme:
Please, correct these metro lenghts in the list:

-Barcelona: 106,40 km.
-Madrid: 226,78 km.
:wink2:
Danke schön!!
;)

I went this Christmas to Lisboa and I spent a morning riding on local trains.

It has imporved a lot in the last 10 years... Specially Fertagus, with modern, light and big stations in the South side of the Tejo river.

I have been searching for lenght of the Lisboa's suburbans lines but I have not found anything. What I have is the number of trains per line.

Number of daily trains per line
Sintra - 354
Cascais - 279 (106.292 passenger per day)
Azambuja - 163
Sado - 62
Fertagus - ?

:cheers:

hello? Arples just posted a complete list of Lisbon's suburban trains and their lengths!!! :|

this is a map for Porto's suburban/commuter train lines :

http://www.cp.pt/servicos/imagens2/mporto.gif

these are known as the Porto suburban trains by CP, the Portuyguese railway company. I have no idea for distances though... :(

About Porto Metro:

phase 1:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/PedroCid/metroporto.jpg

total extension: 70 KM ( 10 Km underground)


Lines A and B are already in service.(blue and red) . Line C (yellow) is due to open by the end of the summer..

I hope you can update it , Mr. Justme ;)

thanks Pedrocid, How much is the Porto "metro" today? I only include the current lengths, when the extensions are complete, post here, and I'll update.

I think the correct definition of Porto's metro is Light Rail/metro, as most of the service I believe is technically light rail.

is more ligt rail im my opinion too but have some stations under ground!!

thanks Pedrocid, How much is the Porto "metro" today? I only include the current lengths, when the extensions are complete, post here, and I'll update.

I think the correct definition of Porto's metro is Light Rail/metro, as most of the service I believe is technically light rail.


I can't find any accurate data on its actual length at the moment. You are right, it is light rail, although it goes underground in the city centre. Phase two predicts some more underground lines and stations as well.. I'll keep you posted if I find more data and news ;)

UP!!
:wink2:

@justme, updated data for tram network of moscow - 418,8km
http://mos.ru/cgi-bin/pbl_web?vid=2&osn_id=0&id_rub=1716&news_unom=42215

The heritage tram line in A Coruña has 4.6 Km of length today from "Puerta Real" to "Las Esclavas", shortly will be increased till "Monte de San Pedro" and there are plans to expand the system through the whole city as a modern transport or Light Rail:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cellete2/Tranvia.jpg

Thanks Coth & Cellete, I've made the updates to the front page listing.

Hi, your figures for Munich's metro seem a little outdated: According to this list http://mic-ro.com/metro/metrolist.html it's 85 km and somewhere else I read it's even 89 km.

Hi, your figures for Munich's metro seem a little outdated: According to this list http://mic-ro.com/metro/metrolist.html it's 85 km and somewhere else I read it's even 89 km.

Nowadays, Barcelona Metro is 106.40km. long, not 102km.
;)

Thanks guys, I have made the changes/updates, also, Chavito, I have taken your advise and deleted the Cercedilla - Los Cotos LR listing.

Again, thanks for all this updating, this list could be one of the most comprehensive and updated list available on the Internet for European Urban and commuter rail!

Thanks guys, I have made the changes/updates, also, Chavito, I have taken your advise and deleted the Cercedilla - Los Cotos LR listing.

Again, thanks for all this updating, this list could be one of the most comprehensive and updated list available on the Internet for European Urban and commuter rail!

Thanks to you!
:okay:
Good list.
:wink2:
By the way:
Nowadays, Madrid Metro is 226.78km. long, not 232km.
;)

Looking at Porto's map makes me cringe. I wish every city had a Beck design.

thanks Pedrocid, How much is the Porto "metro" today? I only include the current lengths, when the extensions are complete, post here, and I'll update.

I think the correct definition of Porto's metro is Light Rail/metro, as most of the service I believe is technically light rail.

it was on the newspapers today

actual extension: 35Km

Alexbn told me that now Barcelona Metropolitan Region whole rail system is 800 km. long.
I need to update and correct some figures...
Give me some days, please!
;)

Actual extensión Metro Madrid 226,759 Km (M). In 2007, extension will be 276,559 Km (M) + 28 Km (Light Metro)= 304,559 Km (M+LR) (thanks Spastik).

Moscow Metro plans to expand to somewhere 290-295km by 2007.

Coth, 290-295 Km of full metro or full metro+light metro? Thanks

Moscow does not have light rails. We just call light metro - the metro that mostly elevated above the ground. Actually it is heavy metro. Terms of Light Metro and Mini Metro was made up just for appearance. However lines of Light Metro have shorter stations (102m long). Mini metro has 120m long stations.

However, term Mini Metro was rejected this year.

All metro in Moscow is full metro, actually!
;)

Update about the total length of the tram line in A Coruña; It´s 6.2 KM

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cellete2/101.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cellete2/57.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cellete2/32.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cellete2/27.jpg

Those A Corunã trams remind me of the vintage stock they keep running in San Francisco for the tourists (it's not like those lines actually serve another purpose).
Considering the length of the line and the second picture's scenery, do the Coruña trams have the same purpose?

:applause: wow!

Those A Corunã trams remind me of the vintage stock they keep running in San Francisco for the tourists (it's not like those lines actually serve another purpose).
Considering the length of the line and the second picture's scenery, do the Coruña trams have the same purpose?

Yes.It´s exactly that; but there are plans to extend the net through the city with more lines and modern vehicles as a light rail system, but at the moment, the single line is an heritage line.

Here are the newest facts from Germany(Straßenbahn-Jahrbuch 2005)

Tram:

Augsburg: 31,6 km
Berlin: 187,7 km
Braunschweig: 34,3 km
Cottbus: 23,7 km
Darmstadt: 41,8 km
Dessau: 13,1 km
Freiburg: 27,5 km
Halle: 84,5 km
more facts from Germany soon...

ESTONIA
Tallinn: 39 km

Hey Justme, here is news from Russia.

First metro line has just recently opened in Kazan'.
5 stations - 7,7km

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=252226

Alexbn told me that now Barcelona Metropolitan Region whole rail system is 800 km. long.
I need to update and correct some figures...
Give me some days, please!800 km long... by 2010. Nowadays Barcelona metro region has got:

104.7 km metro
574.0 km commuter train
18.8 km light rail
1.5 km funicular
TOTAL 699.0 km

This is the integrated railway network, with the same fares for everything; there are other transports not integrated (Gelida, Sant Joan, Santa Cova and Tibidabo funiculars, Montserrat rack train). In addition, all suburban and night buses and most of the urban are also integrated, with a total of ca 500 lines.


PS: Sorry for the question in Spanish, ¿es correcta la traducción de "cremallera" por "rack train"?

Thanks guys, I have updated the list with all the new stats.

@beta29, looking forward to more latest German figures :cheers:

So, here are some new facts for Germany!

Jena: 26,3 km
Köln: 191,2 km
Krefeld: 46,0 km
Magdeburg: 60,9 km
Oberhausen: 9,6 km
Rostock: 33,6 km

For the other cities I have facts too but there´s the difference with "Streckenlänge" and "Linienlänge". The problem is that in the book sometimes only the "Linienlänge" is given
and you use "Streckenlänge" here.

The other problem is that networks like Stuttgart, Frankfurt or Ruhrgebiet are just to big.
So many facts and differences between Straßenbahn, Stadtbahn, U-bahn, Zahnradbahn, Bergbahn...

Here are some other facts I found:

Linz: 19,7 km
Zürich: 109,0 km

btw: Thanks Mr. Pizza!

Here is also new station will be opened in Moscow metro this saturday (10 sep) - Business Center.

So total route lenght will be 278,3km.

Also. Here is no Light Rails. It's just shorter stations than classic metro and mostly above the ground, but it still heavy metro. We call it Light Metro just for pronouncing.


And there is heavy metro in Yekaterinburg, not Light Rails.
http://meta.metro.ru/ekaterinburg/ekaterinburg.html

Here some new facts for the metro part! (facts from urbanrail.net)

Athens: 52,0 km
Bucuresti: 62,4 km
Hamburg: 101 km
Kharkiv: 35,3 km
Kriyvy Rih: 17,7 km
Kyiy: 59,0 km
Lisboa: 38,0 km
London: 415,0 km
Madrid: 228,0 km
Minsk: 23,7 km
Munich: 85,6 km

more soon..!

And some more new facts for the metro part:

Nizhniy Novgorod: 17,0 km
Prague: 53,8 km
Sankt Peterburg: 112,0 km
Sofia: 9,9 km

Here some new facts for the metro part! (facts from urbanrail.net)

Athens: 52,0 km
Bucuresti: 62,4 km
Hamburg: 101 km
Kharkiv: 35,3 km
Kriyvy Rih: 17,7 km
Kyiy: 59,0 km
Lisboa: 38,0 km
London: 415,0 km
Madrid: 228,0 km
Minsk: 23,7 km
Munich: 85,6 km

more soon..!
Corrections:
Barcelona: 106.40 km.
Madrid: 226.78 km.
:wink2:

update: Added top Tram Networks List by City Proper at front of thread, networks over 100km

Justme,

Copenhagen's S-tog system should definately be on that list as well - it's considered metro since 2000 (one year before the "real" Metro opened). I don't have any stats on the length of the S-tog system, but it sure as hell is large...

Justme,

Copenhagen's S-tog system should definately be on that list as well - it's considered metro since 2000 (one year before the "real" Metro opened). I don't have any stats on the length of the S-tog system, but it sure as hell is large...


From what I underdstand, the S-tog is a commuter/suburban rail system that runs like an S-bahn in Germany or the RER in Paris. It may look like a metro in the city center, but because it's primary use in suburban traffic, it does not qualify as one.

I have not included S-bahns or RER type systems in the metro list for any city.

However, I am greatly interested in the stats of the S-tog, as it has a place in the commuter/suburban section near the bottom of the list. If you can find these details, I will add them.

From what I underdstand, the S-tog is a commuter/suburban rail system that runs like an S-bahn in Germany or the RER in Paris. It may look like a metro in the city center, but because it's primary use in suburban traffic, it does not qualify as one.

I have not included S-bahns or RER type systems in the metro list for any city.
I'm not sure about the S-bahns or RER type systems - but the S-Tog system is totally independent from other traffic - it runs with metro frequency, and is primaly used to move people within the city. That's, at least, what I call a metro. In the end I guess it all comes down to definition, but according to UrbanRail.net's definition - Copenhagen's S-Tog system indeed is a metro.

In opposite from regular "commuter rail" systems, the S-togs are very similar to the T-bana (subway) in Stockholm - with extensive network within the city, and "fingers" out into the suburbs. The Copenhagen RE-trains, as well as Ø-tog (to Malmö) and the Lille Nord/Hornbækbanen/etc.-systems stands for a lot of the commuting traffic. It's hard to compare the systems of different cities - since "metros" are used for different purposes depending on where you are. The Copenhagen Metro (M-system) only moves within the inner-city and is fully automated, i.e. a metro in its perfect sense - compared to that many other cities' metros wouldn't maybe qualify into the metro definition.

Tallinn commuter suburban rail system is 131,6km - 6 lines... according to www.elektriraudtee.ee

I'm not sure about the S-bahns or RER type systems - but the S-Tog system is totally independent from other traffic - it runs with metro frequency, and is primaly used to move people within the city. That's, at least, what I call a metro. In the end I guess it all comes down to definition, but according to UrbanRail.net's definition - Copenhagen's S-Tog system indeed is a metro.


Not quite.

Urban Rail say's the following.

"Nørreport provides interchange to Copenhagen's S-Tog system (a commuter rail system operated by DSB - Danish State Railways) which runs like a metro within the city."

It is defined as a commuter rail system. It does say that it runs like a metro within the city, but that also describes the S-bahn or RER through city centers.

Now, I havn't actually seen the S-tog system, and it could be something completely different to what I am reading, but other sources I have looked at also describe it as a commuter rail system (and yes, like the S-bahn or RER, one that operates much like a metro in the city center).

Not quite.

Urban Rail say's the following.

"Nørreport provides interchange to Copenhagen's S-Tog system (a commuter rail system operated by DSB - Danish State Railways) which runs like a metro within the city."
I am perfectly aware of that.
However, UrbanRail.net defines a metro like this:

"1) An urban electric mass rail transport system, i.e. it is primarily used to move within the city
2) Totally independent from other traffic, rail or street traffic
3) High frequency service (maximum interval approx. 10 minutes during normal daytime service)"

The S-tog system totally fulfills this definition - just as much as the T-bana in Stockholm for example.

It is defined as a commuter rail system. It does say that it runs like a metro within the city, but that also describes the S-bahn or RER through city centers.

Now, I havn't actually seen the S-tog system, and it could be something completely different to what I am reading, but other sources I have looked at also describe it as a commuter rail system (and yes, like the S-bahn or RER, one that operates much like a metro in the city center).
I've been on both RER in Paris and S-Bahn in Berlin and Køln, and those systems are very different from the S-Togs in Copenhagen.

It became totally separated from other rail traffic in 2000, and the frequency is as high as in many other metro systems around the world. But hey, it's your list - you make the calls here..

I am perfectly aware of that.
However, UrbanRail.net defines a metro like this:

"1) An urban electric mass rail transport system, i.e. it is primarily used to move within the city
2) Totally independent from other traffic, rail or street traffic
3) High frequency service (maximum interval approx. 10 minutes during normal daytime service)"

The S-tog system totally fulfills this definition - just as much as the T-bana in Stockholm for example.


I've been on both RER in Paris and S-Bahn in Berlin and Køln, and those systems are very different from the S-Togs in Copenhagen.

It became totally separated from other rail traffic in 2000, and the frequency is as high as in many other metro systems around the world. But hey, it's your list - you make the calls here..

Well, this is a democratic list, right from the beginning it has always been updated by other people who know the various systems.

If a couple of other people know the S-tog system well, and can accurately compare it with other metro's and S-bahns/RER and still believe it is a full metro then by all means. It would also help if they were unbiased, as would some references from web sources help the case.

But keep in mind. No other questionable suburban system has been included for any of the other cities in this list. Many Parisians have argued that the RER is a metro, and others that the S-bahn (especially in Berlin) is a metro and they still are not on the list. All sources I have seen on the internet, including Urban Rail, describe it primarily as a suburban/commuter network.

I get your point. Though, as a Malmö resident, working in Copenhagen, I consider myself pretty "in the know" in this particular area. Putting S-tog on the list may require other users to prove the fact, and that's totally fine by me. It's not a big deal anyay. ;)

RER and S-Bahn are not metros.

The S-tog system totally fulfills this [urbanrail's] definition - just as much as the T-bana in Stockholm for example.

I've been on both RER in Paris and S-Bahn in Berlin and Køln, and those systems are very different from the S-Togs in Copenhagen.
Why is Copenhagen's S-Tog different from Berlin's S-Bahn? IMO Berlin's S-Bahn (and even more so, Hamburg's, but not the other German ones) fulfills Urbanrail's definition properly.

But it's always difficult to draw a border between metros and some other systems, so I agree with Justme's classification.

OH, my favourite thread!!
:happy:
New tramway stations to be opened in Barcelona soon, this year if there are no delays.
:wink2:
I will inform you, as usual.
:yes:
@Justme:
I am going to Frankfurt very soon! Do you live near there? :?
;)

Hungary
Budapest (1896) 206.8km M+LR

Isn't that too high figure? are You sure You didn't include tram lines here?

Katowice (1894) 245km

That's defintely figure for whole upper silesian metro area.

@bitxofo, you betcha. I live in Frankfurt.

@Look. It's been so long since I posted those figures, and I can't remember if someone on the previous 15pages gave them to me, or I found them in my book. I have a book I bought in London which had all the figures for Europe in, although much was out of date, so the forumers on this thread helped to update them.

@bitxofo, you betcha. I live in Frankfurt.

@Look. It's been so long since I posted those figures, and I can't remember if someone on the previous 15pages gave them to me, or I found them in my book. I have a book I bought in London which had all the figures for Europe in, although much was out of date, so the forumers on this thread helped to update them.
:banana2:
May we meet one day and you show me Frankfurt U bahn?
:)

What is that skytrain thing in Léon called?

bump

In January 6th, a new section of tramway will be added to BCN network!
;)

nice one,

In January 6th, a new section of tramway will be added to BCN network!
;)

Is it a stub, or linking the two seperate networks together? I really like the trams in Barcelona, but they seriously have to build more in the central area as well as the extremes.

Is it a stub, or linking the two seperate networks together? I really like the trams in Barcelona, but they seriously have to build more in the central area as well as the extremes.
It is only a new branch for Sant Just town, opening in January the 5th.
;)
The central section to link both networks through Diagonal must wait 3 or 4 years because Barcelona major do not want it yet... :bash::bash:
:(

As per UrbanRail (http://www.UrbanRail.Net), Tbilisi (Georgia) has a 26.3km metro system. Also, Yerevan (Armenia) has a 13.4km metro system in place.

Thanks Migman, updated.

The new branch in Barcelona (orange) +2,1 km

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4449/trambaix6ye.jpg

Thanks Migman, updated.

Do you not think Liverpool's Merseyrail should be acknowledged to some extent, at least? It's a two line electric heavy rail system completely isolated from all other rail systems and is locally controlled. I've never been able to fathom why Newcastle always seems to qualify but Liverpool's doesn't. And since when has Birmingham had a metro?

Do you not think Liverpool's Merseyrail should be acknowledged to some extent, at least? It's a two line electric heavy rail system completely isolated from all other rail systems and is locally controlled. I've never been able to fathom why Newcastle always seems to qualify but Liverpool's doesn't. And since when has Birmingham had a metro?

Very good point. Birmingham's really is a light metro, or light rail with some metro characteristics. It was incorrectly entered into the list.

Liverpool is a hard one. It's technically considered an S-bahn type service, or something like the RER in Paris. Some people do consider these as a metro, but in most rail circles they are still considered as suburban lines.

I would put it in the suburban rail section, but I would also like to know the full length of all lines in Liverpools metro area, otherwise it would appear smaller than it should.

At the same time, it's one of those cross over ones. I believe one line is still fully desiel, but the two electric lines do have a frequent service in the central area.

I don't make decisions here, it's a fully democratic thread, if enough people consider it a metro, then I'll add it into the metro list (probably labeled M+S or something)

To be honest, it looks pretty close to a metro to me, it seems fully urban (am I correct?) excellent frequencies (is it something like every 5minutes off peak?) and some underground sections.

Some photos of new Barcelona's tram branch in this thread:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=302977&page=1&pp=20

Some photos of new Barcelona's tram branch in this thread:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=302977&page=1&pp=20
I tried this new branch yesterday Friday.
:yes:
I have got some photos too, but my Internet connection at home is not working and I cannot upload them...
:(

Any updates, guys?
:?
Come on, post them here!
:wink2:

Some updates from Germany(just tram):
Facts from: "Straßenbahnjahrbuch 2005"

Rostock: 33.6km
Potsdam: 27.5km
Strausberg: 6.2km
Magdeburg: 60.9km
Essen: 94.2km(tram), 35.2km(Stadtbahn)
Köln: 191.2km
Krefeld: 46.0km
Oberhausen: 9.6km
Frankfurt/Main: 63.4km
Gotha: 26.3km
Stuttgart: 10.9km(all tram lines will be stadtbahn lines, this is the last tram line!)

Austria:

Linz: 19.7km
Vienna: 185.0km(240km is "Linienlänge")

Thanks beta29, I've updated

Are you absolutely sure that the 240km is track length, as I have three books at home that describe it as route length.

"Linienlänge" is exactly the german word for "route lenght"!

Italy
Catania (1999) 3.8km M
Genova (1929-2000) 29.1km M+LR
Milano (1964) 84.2km M
Napoli (1993) 40km M
Napoli-Sorrento (1891) 144km LR
Roma (1916-1955) 214.6km M+LR
Soprabolzano (1907) 7.5km LR
Trento-Malé (1908) 56km LR

Napoli Sorrento is the Circumvesuviana, a suburban railway (with 950 mm gauge). The same for the Soprabolzano line. Trento-Malé is all but urban, being a long interurban line.

Switzerland
Aarau (WSB) (1901) 32.3km LR
Arth-Rigi-Vitznau (1871) 15.3km LR
Bern (1898-1812) 53.7km LR
Bremgarten-Dietikon (1902) 18.8km LR
Bulle (GFM) (1901) 48.4km LR
Genève (1994) 15km LR
Interlaken (1890) 23.6km LR
Lausanne (1873) 22.6km LR
Lauterbrunnen (1891) 23.4km LR
Lugano-Ponte Tresa (1912) 12.2km LR
Zürich (1875) 26.9km LR

Here, for Switzerland, all infos are wrong. The Arth-Rigi and Vitznau-Rigi is the second oldest touristic rack railways. These two line don't have any local traffic, mainly because...there is nothing other than hotels or farms, along the lines.

All the othern are interurban or suburban metric-gauged railways. In Lausanne there is, other than the suburban metric line cited in the list (LEB), one real light rail, the only one in Switzerland, 7.8 km long and called M1. A real metro line is under construction, M2, for 6 km.

Genève/Geneva, Bern, Basel and Zürich have urban tramway networks.

Italy
Catania (1999) 3.8km M
Genova (1929-2000) 29.1km M+LR
Milano (1964) 84.2km M
Napoli (1993) 40km M
Napoli-Sorrento (1891) 144km LR
Roma (1916-1955) 214.6km M+LR
Soprabolzano (1907) 7.5km LR
Trento-Malé (1908) 56km LR

Napoli Sorrento is the Circumvesuviana, a suburban railway (with 950 mm gauge). The same for the Soprabolzano line. Trento-Malé is all but urban, being a long interurban line.

mancano totalmente i km di linee S e di ferrovie urbane di Milano.
se le calcoli nel totale di Napoli, Roma, Sorrento, Bolzano e Trento, devi metterli anche quelli dell'AM di Milano!

agli 84.2 km di metropolitana reale devi aggiungerci 305 km di Ferrovie Nord Milano e 168.3 km di Linee S.
305+168.3+84.2 = 557.5 km.


@ Justme
there was a mistake in the upper list of Italian cities.
in the city of Milan total km number was consider only the Subway system.
in all the other cities there were cosider Light Rail, Subway and Urban Railways.

the total of Milan is:
Subway: 84.2 km - 96 stations
S Line: 168.3 km - 108 stations
Metro Area Railways (F.N.M.): 305 km - 120 stations

TOTAL 557.5 KM - 324 stations.
this in April 2006

the correct date of Milan is 1874, when were opened the first line of F.N.M.
in the 1906 it was opened in Milan the first line of Elevated Light Rail, for the World Fair 06.

mancano totalmente i km di linee S e di ferrovie urbane di Milano.
se le calcoli nel totale di Napoli, Roma, Sorrento, Bolzano e Trento, devi metterli anche quelli dell'AM di Milano!

agli 84.2 km di metropolitana reale devi aggiungerci 305 km di Ferrovie Nord Milano e 168.3 km di Linee S.
305+168.3+84.2 = 557.5 km.


@ Justme
there was a mistake in the upper list of Italian cities.
in the city of Milan total km number was consider only the Subway system.
in all the other cities there were cosider Light Rail, Subway and Urban Railways.

the total of Milan is:
Subway: 84.2 km - 96 stations
S Line: 168.3 km - 108 stations
Metro Area Railways (F.N.M.): 305 km - 120 stations

TOTAL 557.5 KM - 324 stations.
this in April 2006

the correct date of Milan is 1874, when were opened the first line of F.N.M.
in the 1906 it was opened in Milan the first line of Elevated Light Rail, for the World Fair 06.

cheers gruber, did I correct it properly? As far as I understand, the subway stands at 84.2 km. Is the S-line similar to an S-bahn? If so, I added it to the F.N.M. railways in the suburban/commuter list (this doesn't include subways added)

the S lines are today 8 lines that run underground in the city of Milan and at grade in the Metro Area. the main corridor are 4, with 2 lines (that change corridor more times) for each one. the frequency is around few minutes inside the city and around 20-30 minutes in the Metro Area.
It's exactly as the RER or the S-Bahn.

the other upgrade proposed by Coccodrillo, are wrong IMO.

Catania (1999) 3.8km M
Genova (1929-2000) 29.1km M+LR
Milano (1964) 84.2km M
Napoli (1993) 40km M
Napoli-Sorrento (1891) 144km LR
Roma (1916-1955) 214.6km M+LR
Soprabolzano (1907) 7.5km LR
Trento-Malé (1908) 56km LR

Soprabolzano, Trento Male, Genova aren't Light rail, but suburban railways or Cable cars!
Roma have 33.5 km of Subway, nothing more. the rest are commuters regional lines that runs also inside the urban Roma.
Napoli Sorrento is a commuter Line that run with a very low frequency. it was upgraded in the last year. it runs underground for few kms inside the city of Napoli.

it was opened few weeks ago the new subway of Torino, totally underground. 9.6 kms.

the correct list of Italy today is:

ONLY SUBWAY:

Milano 84.2 km
Roma 33.5 km
Napoli 28.0 km
Torino 9.6 km
Genova 5.5 km
Catania 3.8 km

then there are the urban railways that runs inside the city borders and very often have a service similat to the subway one. in Milan, Roma, Napoli, Palermo, Genova and Bari its runs often underground or elevated with trains every 3, 5, 10 minutes.
some of them are under upgradin (Napoli, Palermo, Bari and Milan) to have more trains, stations and highest frequency.

other light rail systems are under construction in Salerno, Parma, Bologna, Sassari, Cagliari and Bergamo.

the only one city where a real subway is under construction is Brescia.

in Milan, Roma, Napoli, Torino and Genova are under contruction new lines of subway.

Some updates from Germany(just tram):
Facts from: "Straßenbahnjahrbuch 2005"
Frankfurt/Main: 63.4km

Is Frankfurt "U-Bahn" really a Subway ?

It's more like a premetro or stadtbahn system:

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/ffm/frankfrt.htm

Tram (Street Car) networks (city proper, not metropolitan area)
[b]France (FR)
Grenoble (1987) 23km since 20 March 2006
Grenoble (1987) 32km the 20 May 2006
Grenoble (1987) 34.5km at the end of the year 2006
...
Grenoble (1987) 36km at the beginning of the year 2009

http://sniavlys.free.fr/images_web/inaugurationB/Plaine_des_Sports.jpg
http://www.snotag.com

Is Frankfurt "U-Bahn" really a Subway ?

It's a combination Metro and Light Rail, which is why it is listed as "M+LR"

Is Frankfurt "U-Bahn" really a Subway ?

It's a combination Metro and Light Rail, which is why it is listed as "M+LR"

Please, you can also update the French section. Thank you.

Metro (Subway)/ Lightrail networks

France
Lille (1983) 45km M
Lyon (1978) 30km M
Marseille (1977) 19km M
Paris (1900) 212km M
Toulouse (1993) 12.5km M
Rennes (1997) 9.4km M

Under Construction:
Lyon (2007) 1km under construction M
Paris (2007 ) 0.7km under construction M
Toulouse (2007) 15km under construction M



Tram (Street Car) networks (city proper, not metropolitan area)

France (FR)
Bordeaux (2003) 27.4km
Grenoble (1987) 23km
Lille (1874) 22km
Lyon (2001) 25km
Marseille (1876) 3km (closed in 2004, see below)
Montpellier (2000) 15.2km
Nantes (1985) 39km
Orleans (2000) 18km
Paris (1992) 20.4km
Rouen (1994) 15.8km
St Etienne (1881) 9.3km
Strasbourg (1994) 24.6km


Under Construction:
Bordeaux (2007) 20km under construction
Grenoble (20/05/2006) 11.5km under construction
Le Mans (2007) 15.4km under construction
Lyon (200) 14.6km under construction
Marseille (2007) 11km under construction
Montpellier (03/01/2007) 19.6km under construction
Mulhouse (13/05/2006) 12km under construction
Nantes (2006) 2.2km under construction
Nice (2007) 8.8km under construction
Orleans (2007) 21km under construction
Paris (2006-2008) 10.2km (7.9 + 2.3) under construction
St Etienne (2006) 2km under construction
Strasbourg (2008) 13.5km under construction
Valenciennes (06/2006) 9.5km under construction
Valenciennes (2007) 8.5km under construction

Kyiv, Ukraine does actually have a LR system built in 1976.

http://mashke.org/kievtram/pictures/routes/tram/03/tram-03-5720+5721-20040607-rollana.jpg

The LR route is completely separated from other traffic. It's in a bad condition now but there are plans to renovate the system.

LR length is 8.53 km and this should be substracted from tram system length.

Moscow is plans to build about 100km of fast tram lines. Final decision will depend on first line that could be build by 2007.

Ok,. thanks guys. I think I've updated everything above. Let me know if I stuffed up.

:cheers:

Roma have 33.5 km of Subway, nothing more. the rest are commuters regional lines that runs also inside the urban Roma.


the correct list of Italy today is:

ONLY SUBWAY:

Milano 84.2 km
Roma 33.5 km
Napoli 28.0 km
Torino 9.6 km
Genova 5.5 km
Catania 3.8 km

.


Rome has 36,5 km of subway (http://www.metroroma.it/MetroRoma/HTML/IT/Azienda/Descrizione/I+numeri+di+metro.htm )


and 3 Urban Railways operated by the Met.Ro transportation company :

Roma-Pantano (this is a light rail line)
http://www.romaone.it/immagini/QuiRoma/03/trenino160.jpg

Roma-Nord (Viterbo)
http://www.mondoferroviario.it/rohrer/f0208.jpg

Roma-Lido
http://www.ilmondodeitreni.it/Lido%20-%20file/0393880b60.jpg


http://www.atac.roma.it/linee/images/metro_map.gif

^^
Part of Roma-Pantano infrastructure will be modernized and used by furure Metro C (then the current light rail service, even in the remaining tracks, will be deleted)

There are projects even to reconvert to metro Roma-Lido and the urban stretch of Roma Nord

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Italy
Catania (1999) 3.8km M
Genova (1929-2000) 29.1km M+LR
Milano (1964) 84.2km M
Napoli (1993) 40km M
Napoli-Sorrento (1891) 144km LR
Roma (1916-1955) 214.6km M+LR
Soprabolzano (1907) 7.5km LR
Trento-Malé (1908) 56km LR

Napoli Sorrento is the Circumvesuviana, a suburban railway (with 950 mm gauge). The same for the Soprabolzano line. Trento-Malé is all but urban, being a long interurban line.

Switzerland
Aarau (WSB) (1901) 32.3km LR
Arth-Rigi-Vitznau (1871) 15.3km LR
Bern (1898-1812) 53.7km LR
Bremgarten-Dietikon (1902) 18.8km LR
Bulle (GFM) (1901) 48.4km LR
Genève (1994) 15km LR
Interlaken (1890) 23.6km LR
Lausanne (1873) 22.6km LR
Lauterbrunnen (1891) 23.4km LR
Lugano-Ponte Tresa (1912) 12.2km LR
Zürich (1875) 26.9km LR

Here, for Switzerland, all infos are wrong. The Arth-Rigi and Vitznau-Rigi is the second oldest touristic rack railways. These two line don't have any local traffic, mainly because...there is nothing other than hotels or farms, along the lines.

All the othern are interurban or suburban metric-gauged railways. In Lausanne there is, other than the suburban metric line cited in the list (LEB), one real light rail, the only one in Switzerland, 7.8 km long and called M1. A real metro line is under construction, M2, for 6 km.

Genève/Geneva, Bern, Basel and Zürich have urban tramway networks.

Anyhing to add to what I have yet written :)

^^
Obviously you forgot Torino metro, opened last February

Do you include tramways in themeparks as well?

Coruna tram system is seems as a heritage system and there is a heritage tram systems thread here can you post these nice pictures also in mentioned thread...?

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Coruna tram system is seems as a heritage system and there is a heritage tram systems thread here can you post these nice pictures also in mentioned thread...?

I did it

Coruna tram system is seems as a heritage system and there is a heritage tram systems thread here can you post these nice pictures also in mentioned thread...?
Thanks, I think I posted in one of those threads but as a matter of fact in some themeparks these tramways can be quite extensive. I guess most visitors of the National Heritage Museum in Arnhem use these tramways, and it attracts about 2 million visitors each year.

Many other countries will have similarly frequently used tramways in themeparks. I think they would count. These transport many people; are well-maintained and are operated on tracks independent of others. To reach Arnhem you'd take the train, take the trolleybus to the museum, pay your way in and use the trams to hop around its heritage assets.

Sorry, but Vitoria don't has a tram or metro line yet, it's aprobed, but no under construction.

Saltsjö- and Roslagsbanan are in Swedish officially called "förortsbana", meaning suburban rail. Nockeby- and Lidingö- are trams, while I believe that Tvärbanan is a light rail line.

About the 2003 tram picture, it's not linked on the tram.ruz.net site. As well, someone who are speaking/reading Russian here might translate the legend on the picture, as PROMPT doesn't recognize the words used.

does anyone know the average distance between stops in, say, the new Torino metro?

Torino? 640 m.

^^ thx a lot!

Torino? 640 m.
Very similar here, in Barcelona metro!
:yes:

^^ hey bitxofo, i have one questiona bout barcelona: if it already had a metro, how come they built that (FRIGGIN BEAUTIFUL) tram line?

and do they speak català in barcelona? do you speak it?

^^ hey bitxofo, i have one questiona bout barcelona: if it already had a metro, how come they built that (FRIGGIN BEAUTIFUL) tram line?

and do they speak català in barcelona? do you speak it?
Metro and tramway are complementary means of transportation, one does not exclude the other one!
;)
In Barcelona we are bilingual, we speak Catalan and Spanish. Also all people under 35y.o. speak English.
:wink2:
Cheers!!
:cheers1:

Just a quick note for Paris. The Transilien suburban trains do not consist in 5 lines, it actually consists in 5 networks (and 2 extra lines), each network serving several lines.

- Paris-Est network consists in 5 lines.
- Paris-Lyon network consists in 4 lines.
- Paris-Nord network consists in 6 lines.
- Paris-Montparnasse network consists in 3 lines.
- Paris-Saint Lazare network consists in 4 lines (+ 2 extra lines*)

*La Verrière - La Défense and Noisy-le-Roi - Saint-Germain are two other extra lines which are managed by the Paris-Saint Lazare network but which do not serve Gare Saint-Lazare station.

As a whole, Transilien suburban trains are about 5 networks consisting altogether in 26 lines.

I guess I'm going to have to update the original list. Won't have time until early next week though. Thanks for the updates everyone.

^^Thanks a lot for your effort and your great list!!
:okay:

Hi everybody.

Some data about Bilbao and northern Spain.

First of all, there is no light rail in Bilbao, Santander, San Sebastian, Oviedo, etc. There is no light rail in northern Spain, but there is a long narrow gauge line (1.000 mm) from Hendaye (french border) to Ferrol, along the Cantabrian Sea. It´s very old, and slow, but is heavy rail tecnology, with freight trains and so on.

In Bilbao, you can find five different systems.

Euskotren, narrow gauge, commuter train.:
Bilbao-Lezama, 15,83 km.
Bilbao-Bermeo, 49,40 km.
Bilbao-Ermua, 45 km. more or less
Bilbao-Bermeo and Bilbao-Durango share the first kilometers, around 13 km.

Euskotren has got 97 km. of commuter train.


FEVE, narrow gauge, commuter train:
Bilbao-Balmaseda, 32 km.

RENFE, iberian gauge, commuter train:
Bilbao-Orduña, 40 km.
Bilbao-Santurtzi, 11km.
Bilbao-Muskiz, 21 km.
Bilbao-Santurtzi and Bilbao-Muskiz share the first kilometers, around 5 km.

RENFE has got 67 km. of commuter train.

EUSKOTRAN, a part of Euskotren, moderm tramway, line and trains, closer to a light rail, 4,9 k

MetroBilbao, two lines, 36,39 km., full metro service.

BILBAO, last figures.

Metro, 36,39 km.
Tramway, 4,9 km.
Commuter train, 196 km.
No light rail.

Some figures are aproximated. It is very difficult to separate between different lines and networks. I will try to send you data from San Sebastian, Santander, Oviedo and so on, but remenber, there is no light rail in northern Spain.

Bye.

Hi!
That's a great idea you got there, although i'd like to add Clermont Ferrand in France that is to open its tram line A, which consists in a 14km rubber tyre tram line with a guiding rail.
http://www.letram-clermontferrand.com/
Angers is also planning to open its first (12km, rail only) tram line by 2008-2009, I guess that the building of the infrastructures might start anytime now (if it hasn't already started).
http://www.angersloiremetropole.fr/tramway/

Barcelona, nowadays:
;)
Metro........................106.40 km.
Tramway.................... 22.50 km.
Trains........................560.00 km.
Funiculars......................1.50 km.
------------------------------------
TOTAL........................690.40 km.
:wink2:
@Justme:
Update the front page, please!
:yes:
ThankS
:bowtie:

Update for Barcelona, new commuter train line, line R10 since 22/7/2007:
;)
Metro........................106.40 km.
Tramway.................... 22.50 km.
Trains........................566.00 km.
Funiculars......................1.50 km.
------------------------------------
TOTAL........................696.40 km.
:happy:
New T5 tramway line will be added this coming September.
:wink2:

New tram facts for Germany::

Berlin: 189,4 km
Dresden: 131,0 km
Köln: 191,2 ĸm....Please don´t forget to add this facts in your top tram networks list

:)

New opening in Barcelona on Saturday 14/10/2006:

Tram line T5: 2.8 kilometres and 6 stations.
;)

Thanks for keeping this thread alive guys, I have made the update to the main list.

The metro-ring opened in Oslo 21'st of August. This means that the metro now has one new station and 1.7km of new tracks.

The new metro-map: http://sporveien.no/upload/Dokumentvedlegg/Nettkart/TbaneAug06web.pdf

^^^ Updated as well NorthStar77

Thanks for keeping this thread alive guys, I have made the update to the main list.
This is my favourite thread!!
:happy:
Update for Barcelona networks, next 14/10/2006:
;)
Metro........................106.40 km.
Tramway.................... 25.30 km.
Trains........................566.00 km.
Funiculars......................1.50 km.
------------------------------------
TOTAL........................699.20 km.
:wink2:

Justme - When the London Overground network comes into force next year, would that essentially become a metro service (it will run at metro frequencies, be standardised and literally a London Underground, but with most of it overground) or would that be combined with the London Underground figure or a combined LU & LO figure?

An idea of the beginning London Overground network 'lines' - as you are aware, there are some 788km of non-London Underground heavy rail lines in London, so its possible that this network could eventually become the largest metro network in the world by route km:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/North-london-line.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d8/West_London_line.svg/450px-West_London_line.svg.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d9/Gospel_Oak_to_Barking_line.svg/750px-Gospel_Oak_to_Barking_line.svg.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/EastLondonLineRouteMap.png

Hi Nick,

Yes, the Overground is quite an exciting project. However, it is a difficult one to categorize, a bit like the RER. In fact, very much like the RER.

I do know that it will be included on the standard Tube Map, but I don't know if it qualifies as a full metro. Probably more like a hybrid metro such as RER and S-bahn. (That said, not all S-bahns qualify as anything near a metro - some S-bahn lines in Frankfurt have frequencies peak hour of 2 trains an hour! whilst others are much better).

So, like the RER in Paris, or the S-bahn in Berlin, it will be quite hard to define. But personally, it looks separate still to the underground.

What will be the frequencies?

Obviously the frequencies will vary over certain stations, but I believe the minimum is going to be 4tph off-peak, so perhaps 6tph minimum peak? The likes of the North London Line will however get far more routes. I'd expect that the suburban approaches into London Waterloo and the other termini will be also of a very high frequency.

http://www.alwaystouchout.com/img/projects/orbirail-phase-2.png

And thats exactly my problem - its not really like Thameslink or Crossrail in that all lines carry straight on through, some don't even go close to the core. I think it will be a lot like the S-Bahns, but again still differences - perhaps this will be an entirely new class of ril mode!?!?!

Torino, Italia

Suburban Rail Networks: 117 km

^ Thanks Hogan, updated for Torino.

Updates for France :


Metro networks

France
Lille (1983) 45km M
Lyon (1978) 37km M (38km in 2007, 42km in 2013)
Marseille (1977) 19km M (25km in 2006)
Paris (1900) 212km M (223km in 2007)
Toulouse (1993) 12.5km M (27.5km in 2007)
Rennes (2001) 9.4km M


Tram networks

France (FR)
Bordeaux (2002) 24.5km (43.3km in 2007)
Grenoble (1987) 21km (34.5km in 2006, 53km in 2009)
Lille (1874) 18.5km
Lyon (2001) 23.7km (25.5km in 2005, 40km in 2006)
Marseille (1876) 3km
Montpelier (2000) 15.2km (34.2km in 2006)
Nantes (1985) 39km (41.2km in 2005)
Orleans (2000) 18km
Paris (1992) 20.4km (33km in 2007, 91.6km in 2010)
Rouen (1994) 15.8km
St Etienne (1881) 9.3km
Strasbourg (1994) 24.6km (40km in 2007)
Le Mans (2007) 15km
Nice (2006) 8.7km (35.2km in 2010)
Mulhouse (2005) 12km (19.7km in 2010)
Valenciennes (2006) 9.5km
Toulon (2006) 17.7km

Actually, most French tram networks can be considered as light rail networks since they always run separate from any other road traffic and usually have priority when crossing the road.

+ Any French Region has its local train network named TER, which, in my region's case (Nord Pas de Calais) is mostly used as a commuter service to connect any city to Lille.

Switzerland
Aarau (WSB) (1901) 32.3km LR
Arth-Rigi-Vitznau (1871) 15.3km LR
Bern (1898-1812) 53.7km LR
Bremgarten-Dietikon (1902) 18.8km LR
Bulle (GFM) (1901) 48.4km LR
Genève (1994) 15km LR
Interlaken (1890) 23.6km LR
Lausanne (1873) 22.6km LR
Lauterbrunnen (1891) 23.4km LR
Lugano-Ponte Tresa (1912) 12.2km LR
Zürich (1875) 26.9km LR

I think I had yet replied to this thread, anyway:

Aarau: ok, anyway those two lines are suburban

The Arth Goldau-Rigi and Vitznau-Rigi are two nice cog railways (the second one is the second oldest mountain rack railway in the world, buil after the Mt Washington in the USA), used only by tourists. Except those tourists, that's the population served: 5 farmers, 50 cows and 8 dogs. See also:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigi-Bahnen
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitznau-Rigi-Bahn
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arth-Rigi-Bahn

Bern: ok, but the second yer is obviously 1912, not 1812! Lines S7, S8, S9 of Bern's S-Bahn and and tramway G (that runs on urban streets in Bern)

Bremgarten-Dietikon: ok, line S17 of Zürich's S-Bahn

Bulle-Romont line: former GFM, now the company is called TPF (www.tpf.ch), and runs an hourly service between the small town of Bulle (20.0000 inhabitants) and the SBB main line at Romont (5.000 inhabitants)

Genève/Geneva: it's a normal tramway like in French cities (perhaps with more sections shared with cars), in a continuos expansion

Interlaken: another touristic group of railway, the one that leads to the Jungfrau (highest railway station in Europe, at 3500 m). Here probably you can't find neither the cows. LAuterbrunnen is one station on this network of five railway lines (BOB, SPB, BLM, WAB, JB), and several aerial cableways

Lausanne: here there are three lines:
M1: really a light rail, the only one in Switzerland. 8 km on reserved tracks and some short streches in tunnels
M2: until 22nd february 2006 a 1.5 km cog railway, from autumn 2008 a 6 km automatic rubber-tyred metro (NOT a VAL, but similar to Paris' line 14)
LEB: suburban railway, 30' minutes headway (15' in planning)
See also here:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSOL
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LEB

Lauterbrunnen: see Interlaken

Lugano-Ponte Tresa: a suburban line, now with 20' minutes headways, 15' next year, 10' in the future

Zürich: what is this? The Forchbahn? Zürich has a network of 68 km of urban tramways plus a suburban one (The Forchpahn, or S18)

Italy
Catania (1999) 3.8km M
Genova (1929-2000) 29.1km M+LR
Milano (1964) 84.2km M
Napoli (1993) 28km M
Napoli-Sorrento (1891) 144km LR
Roma (1916-1955) 214.6km M+LR (incl. 33.5km M only)
Soprabolzano (1907) 7.5km LR
Torino (???) 9.6km M
Trento-Malé (1908) 56km LR

All is ok, except:

Genova: it has only a 5 km metro, any light rail, plus some short funiculars and an urban service on interurban and freight railways

Soprabolzano: interesting, the old Rittnerbahn called "light rail"...

Torino: a VAL that has been opened in spring 2005

Trento-Malé-Marilleva: an interurban metric gauge railway (certainly NOT a light rail)

(PS I don't call "light rail" every vehicle that runs on rais...)

This is my favourite thread!!
:happy:
Update for Barcelona networks, next 14/10/2006:
;)
Metro........................106.40 km.
Tramway.................... 25.30 km.
Trains........................566.00 km.
Funiculars......................1.50 km.
------------------------------------
TOTAL........................699.20 km.
:wink2:

The reason, the new T5 tram line, between Glòries and Besòs.

Photos and more information in this thread:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=181598&page=12

Hi Justme

Vitoria- Gasteiz (2004) 7.9km << this is under construction now, no finished.

Torino: a VAL that has been opened in spring 2005



The line was opened on February 4, 2006. :)

Welcome to Sassari (Sardinia, Italy) in the list of the cities with a tram web

On October 27 opened its first tram line (just 2.5 km and 5 stops for now... I don't know how the line will be long as the works end)

Here the news (in Italian) http://www.ferrovie.it/fol.tim/timdett.php3?id=2306

http://www.ferrovie.it/fol.tim/img/FN2306101.jpg

http://www.ferrovie.it/fol.tim/img/FN2306102.jpg

http://www.ferrovie.it/fol.tim/img/FN2306103.jpg

Antalya Tram is 4,8km
Planning new streetcar(or tram) line is 12km

Italy
Catania (1999) 3.8km M
Genova (1929-2000) 29.1km M+LR
Milano (1964) 84.2km M
Napoli (1993) 40km M
Napoli-Sorrento (1891) 144km LR
Roma (1916-1955) 214.6km M+LR
Soprabolzano (1907) 7.5km LR
Trento-Malé (1908) 56km LR

Napoli Sorrento is the Circumvesuviana, a suburban railway (with 950 mm gauge). The same for the Soprabolzano line. Trento-Malé is all but urban, being a long interurban line.

Switzerland
Aarau (WSB) (1901) 32.3km LR
Arth-Rigi-Vitznau (1871) 15.3km LR
Bern (1898-1812) 53.7km LR
Bremgarten-Dietikon (1902) 18.8km LR
Bulle (GFM) (1901) 48.4km LR
Genève (1994) 15km LR
Interlaken (1890) 23.6km LR
Lausanne (1873) 22.6km LR
Lauterbrunnen (1891) 23.4km LR
Lugano-Ponte Tresa (1912) 12.2km LR
Zürich (1875) 26.9km LR

Here, for Switzerland, all infos are wrong. The Arth-Rigi and Vitznau-Rigi is the second oldest touristic rack railways. These two line don't have any local traffic, mainly because...there is nothing other than hotels or farms, along the lines.

All the othern are interurban or suburban metric-gauged railways. In Lausanne there is, other than the suburban metric line cited in the list (LEB), one real light rail, the only one in Switzerland, 7.8 km long and called M1. A real metro line is under construction, M2, for 6 km.

Genève/Geneva, Bern, Basel and Zürich have urban tramway networks.

Or, better:

Switzerland
Aarau (WSB) (1901) 32.3km LR
Arth-Rigi-Vitznau (1871) 15.3km LR
Bern (1898-1812) 53.7km LR
Bremgarten-Dietikon (1902) 18.8km LR
Bulle (GFM) (1901) 48.4km LR
Genève (1994) 15km LR
Interlaken (1890) 23.6km LR
Lausanne (1873) 22.6km LR
Lauterbrunnen (1891) 23.4km LR
Lugano-Ponte Tresa (1912) 12.2km LR
Zürich (1875) 26.9km LR

I think I had yet replied to this thread, anyway:

Aarau: ok, anyway those two lines are suburban

The Arth Goldau-Rigi and Vitznau-Rigi are two nice cog railways (the second one is the second oldest mountain rack railway in the world, buil after the Mt Washington in the USA), used only by tourists. Except those tourists, that's the population served: 5 farmers, 50 cows and 8 dogs. See also:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigi-Bahnen
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitznau-Rigi-Bahn
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arth-Rigi-Bahn

Bern: ok, but the second yer is obviously 1912, not 1812! Lines S7, S8, S9 of Bern's S-Bahn and and tramway G (that runs on urban streets in Bern)

Bremgarten-Dietikon: ok, line S17 of Zürich's S-Bahn

Bulle-Romont line: former GFM, now the company is called TPF (www.tpf.ch), and runs an hourly service between the small town of Bulle (20.0000 inhabitants) and the SBB main line at Romont (5.000 inhabitants)

Genève/Geneva: it's a normal tramway like in French cities (perhaps with more sections shared with cars), in a continuos expansion

Interlaken: another touristic group of railway, the one that leads to the Jungfrau (highest railway station in Europe, at 3500 m). Here probably you can't find neither the cows. LAuterbrunnen is one station on this network of five railway lines (BOB, SPB, BLM, WAB, JB), and several aerial cableways

Lausanne: here there are three lines:
M1: really a light rail, the only one in Switzerland. 8 km on reserved tracks and some short streches in tunnels
M2: until 22nd february 2006 a 1.5 km cog railway, from autumn 2008 a 6 km automatic rubber-tyred metro (NOT a VAL, but similar to Paris' line 14)
LEB: suburban railway, 30' minutes headway (15' in planning)
See also here:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSOL
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LEB

Lauterbrunnen: see Interlaken

Lugano-Ponte Tresa: a suburban line, now with 20' minutes headways, 15' next year, 10' in the future

Zürich: what is this? The Forchbahn? Zürich has a network of 68 km of urban tramways plus a suburban one (The Forchpahn, or S18)

Italy
Catania (1999) 3.8km M
Genova (1929-2000) 29.1km M+LR
Milano (1964) 84.2km M
Napoli (1993) 28km M
Napoli-Sorrento (1891) 144km LR
Roma (1916-1955) 214.6km M+LR (incl. 33.5km M only)
Soprabolzano (1907) 7.5km LR
Torino (???) 9.6km M
Trento-Malé (1908) 56km LR

All is ok, except:

Genova: it has only a 5 km metro, any light rail, plus some short funiculars and an urban service on interurban and freight railways

Soprabolzano: interesting, the old Rittnerbahn called "light rail"...

Torino: a VAL that has been opened in spring 2005

Trento-Malé-Marilleva: an interurban metric gauge railway (certainly NOT a light rail)

(PS I don't call "light rail" every vehicle that runs on rails...)

^^ ^^


Torino: a VAL that has been opened in spring 2005



........

The line was opened on February 4, 2006.

Wow, Belgrade has more tram tracks than Prague..

Beograd: 127.3km
Prague: 125k

Who would have thought?:)

@ Just Me

Stockholm update

The Subway
Total length: 113,3 km (65,6 km tunnel)

Saltsjöbanan (Don't know if you count this as suburban rail or light rail)
Picture of a train (http://www.jarnvag.net/bild/framsida/solsidan.jpg)
Total length: 18,6 km

Lidingöbanan (Don't know if you count this as tram or light rail)
Picture of a tram (http://ssr.pp.ru/vis/w1_rr_swe_lidingobanan.jpg)
Total length: 9,2 km

Nockebybanan (Don't know if you count this as tram or light rail)
Picture of a tram (http://www.kynerd.nu/Tunnelbanan/AlvM_020710.jpg)
Total Length: 5,6 km

Tvärbanan (Don't know if you count this as tram or light rail)
Picture of a Tram (http://www.uta.fi/~mp58522/tvarbanan3.jpg)
Total Length: 11,5 km

Hello!

By swedish law the definition for the rail transit in the Stockholm area is:

subway/metro: Tunnelbanan routes 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19

tramway: The Nockebybanan route 12 and Tvärbanan route 22.

railway: The Lidingöbanan route 21, Saltsjöbanan, Roslagsbanan, Pendeltåg.

regards / PCC

By opening the new Randstadraillines The Hague, Netherlands) 3 and 4, please note that there will be a correction on the KM list from The Hague and Rotterdam tramnetworks. One metroline from Rotterdam belongs for a part to randstadrail now (Erasmusline). The line from (Spijkenisse)-Slinge-Zuidplein-Rotterdam Centraal-Nootdorp and then further north to Den Haag Centraal as lightrail and further, into the centre of The Hague as "tram".
The old "Zoetermeerlijn" from the Nederlandse Spoorwegen now belong to the tramnet of The Hague, including a new tramline branch to the most eastern part of Zoetermeer, Oosterheem, new built for tramway exploitation.

Update for Madrid, new 2.4 km. metro extension in line 11:

Madrid metro network before: 226.78 kms.
Madrid metro network since 20/12/2006: 229.18 kms.
;)
Correct, please!
:wink2:
Thanks!!
:bowtie:

"correct, please"???

I still se the Rigi Bahn, in that list :nuts:

Sankt Peterburg: 692km

Really? When I visited the city (with a guided tour, I hadn't the visa), I saw only a single Tatra tram and a few disused tracks. A lot of trolleybuses, however.

^^I went to Saint Petersburg in June 2006, there are a lot of tramway lines and vehicles!
:yes:
I rode a tramway inside the cabin, with the driver, and we went to the tramways depot, it was really big.
;)

Actually, I still don't know if the St. Petersburg tram data is for Route km, or Track km. I am suspecting track km now though.

Amsterdam is construction a new underground line, 9,7 km long. The so-called Noord-Zuid lijn.

Rotterdam and The Hague have opened a lightrail line between the two cities, the RandstadRail, I don't know the length.

Justme, you have still not corrected the datas for Paris.

There are indeed 5 RER lines representing 800 million trips a year (as a comparison, the London tube represents 976 million trips a year with 12 lines), but the suburban trains, which represents 250 million trips a year, are divided in 8 different networks, each managing several lines.

Those 8 networks are as such :
- network P : for trains to Gare de l'Est. (7 lines)
- network R : for trains to Gare de Lyon. (5 lines)
- network N : for trains to Gare Montparnasse. (3 lines)
- network U : for trains to La Défense. (1 line)
- network J : Northern network to Gare Saint-Lazare. (7 lines)
- network L : Southern network to Gare Saint-Lazare. (5 lines)
- network H : Western network to Gare du Nord. (4 lines)
- network K : Eastern network to Gare du Nord. (2 lines)

As a whole the 8 suburban train networks for Paris represents 34 lines (and 250 million journeys in 2004).

There's a new light rail system...probably a tramway system: in Florence (italy).
Visit: http://www.comune.firenze.it/tramvia/index.htm

Yes, a tramway is under construction. Works on the first line are quite advanced, for the other two I think they are just started.

I have found also some pics of the Rigi light rail. Maybe the first post of the thread should be corrected...

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/private/RB/BDhe2_4/rigi20000401A.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/private/RB/locomotive/rigi20000426.jpg

Ok guys, please forgive me for not updating the list for a while, I have been just so busy these last couple of months, and when there was a relaxing lull I tended to forget about this thread and concentrated on beverage consumption instead ;)

Anyway, I think I've updated all the outstanding ones, so if I have made a mistake, please correct me. I'm only human ;)

@Coccodrillo, many thanks for your detailed information. I think I have updated it all according to your list, but I may have messed somethings up as I got a little confused at some points. I am still confused on the two systems in Geneva (also do you have details on the total lengths including completed extensions), which should be in the Light Rail list, and which in the Trams list. Also Zurich confuses me as another source suggests 108.9km for trams.

@ Genius Loci, thanks updated. Do you have details for Istanbul's tram network, as I believe they had some extensions last year - are they included on this list.

@Bitxofo. Always thanks for your Spanish updates!

@ Metropolitan. Please forgive me for the lack of updates. Certainly not wanting one of my favourite rail networks (Paris) to be left behind here. Do you have route km details for the list you gave?

@Ricu, do you have details on the new tram in Florence (sorry, I couldn't read the Italian web site). I would need route length and year opened.

Again, I'm sorry for the delay's in updating this thread. Hopefully I can get it all back on track

I see that you have noted as "light rail" many european suburban or interurban narrow-gauge railways.

Switzerland
Aarau (WSB) (1901) 32.3km suburban narrow-gauge railway
Bern (1898-1912) 53.7km (exact lenght unknown), narrow-gauge tramways and suburban railways
Bremgarten-Dietikon (1902) 18.8km suburban narrow-gauge railway
Bulle (GFM) (1901) 48.4km interurban (nearly mountainous) narrow-gauge railway
Genève (1994) 15km tramway (streetcar)
Lausanne (1873) 22.6km suburban narrow-gauge railway + 7 km light rail (the unique real light rail line in Switzerland) + under construction: 6 km subway/underground/metro
Lauterbrunnen (1891) 23.4km mountain touristic railway
Lugano-Ponte Tresa (1912) 12.2km suburban narrow-gauge railway
Zürich (1875) 68km tramways

Italy
Catania (1999) 3.8km M
Genova (1990) 5.5km M (there are no LR, but some funicularas not included in the 5.5 km)
Milano (1964) 84.2km M + 200 km tramways
Napoli (1993) 28km M
Napoli-Sorrento (1891) 144km suburban narrow-gauge railway
Roma (1916-1955) 214.6km M+LR (incl. 33.5km M only) (there are 33.5 km of metro, plus some suburban railways, plus about 50 km of tramways)
Soprabolzano (1907) 7.5km interurban railway
Torino (2005) 9.6km M + 150 km tramways
Trento-Malé (1908) 56km narrow-gauge interurban railway

In Spain, the Ribes-Nuria line is a rack touristic railway similar to the Rigi. The Laxey-Snaefell in UK also.

Han-sur-Lesse line in Belgium is a touristic line.

I see that you have noted as "light rail" many european suburban or interurban narrow-gauge railways.

Switzerland
Aarau (WSB) (1901) 32.3km suburban narrow-gauge railway
Bern (1898-1912) 53.7km (exact lenght unknown), narrow-gauge tramways and suburban railways
Bremgarten-Dietikon (1902) 18.8km suburban narrow-gauge railway
Bulle (GFM) (1901) 48.4km interurban (nearly mountainous) narrow-gauge railway
Genève (1994) 15km tramway (streetcar)
Lausanne (1873) 22.6km suburban narrow-gauge railway + 7 km light rail (the unique real light rail line in Switzerland) + under construction: 6 km subway/underground/metro
Lauterbrunnen (1891) 23.4km mountain touristic railway
Lugano-Ponte Tresa (1912) 12.2km suburban narrow-gauge railway
Zürich (1875) 68km tramways

Italy
Catania (1999) 3.8km M
Genova (1990) 5.5km M (there are no LR, but some funicularas not included in the 5.5 km)
Milano (1964) 84.2km M + 200 km tramways
Napoli (1993) 28km M
Napoli-Sorrento (1891) 144km suburban narrow-gauge railway
Roma (1916-1955) 214.6km M+LR (incl. 33.5km M only) (there are 33.5 km of metro, plus some suburban railways, plus about 50 km of tramways)
Soprabolzano (1907) 7.5km interurban railway
Torino (2005) 9.6km M + 150 km tramways
Trento-Malé (1908) 56km narrow-gauge interurban railway

In Spain, the Ribes-Nuria line is a rack touristic railway similar to the Rigi. The Laxey-Snaefell in UK also.

Han-sur-Lesse line in Belgium is a touristic line.

Thanks again. I have updated. However, some questions.
* Wasn't Genoa's metro extended recently? Anyway, I have no idea where to include the funicular's, as these are clearly part of the city's transport network. Should they be included as light rail? Do you have complete lengths?

I have several sources that say Milan's tram network has route length of between 240km to 280km, are these wrong?

I have moved the Napoli-Sorrento line to the Napoli commuter section. Do you have details of the full rote length of Napoli metropolitan area commuter rail network?

This is everything I have: the system will consist in 3 line of tram that will link the city center with some towns of the metropolitan area. The firs line will be complete in this year...the tram will be grey with a red stripe and a flower (ancient symbol of Florence). There's another project financed by the italian government and some tuscanian authority also: a metro VAL for the city center very similar to Turin metro...but it will be hard to build it becouse Florence is too much ancient for a subway and Florence has a population of 550 000 only!
http://i11.tinypic.com/3yr8pe8.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/2iktg2f.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/29bloxc.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/2vrvs0p.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/4cswd4j.jpg
http://i18.tinypic.com/2rc99ft.jpg

...

In Spain, the Ribes-Nuria line is a rack touristic railway similar to the Rigi. The Laxey-Snaefell in UK also.
...
Another rack railway in Spain is "Cremallera de Montserrat".
;)
@Justme:
This is one of my favourite threads.
:yes:
I feel very happy helping you with my updates!
:wink2:

Great list, but really hard to maintain it up-to date!

About tramways in Switzerland:
Basel (1895) 139km ==> probably about 70 km but I don't know
Bern (1890) 17.6km
Bex-Bévieux (1898) 3.4km ==> no more existing: it was the urban service of an interurban railway with street-running (the railway still exists)
Genève (1862) 10.2km ==> about 15
Zürich (1882) 108.9km ==> about 70

Wasn't Genoa's metro extended recently? Anyway, I have no idea where to include the funicular's, as these are clearly part of the city's transport network. Should they be included as light rail? Do you have complete lengths?

Genoa's metro is...a disaster. It's now 5.5 km, it was opened in 1990 with two stations and extended by addin one station each time since then. :bash:

I have several sources that say Milan's tram network has route length of between 240km to 280km, are these wrong?

Milan streetcars network is about 170 km, 200 counting interurban lines, but I don't have exact figures. But 287 km is too much. Maybe the 287 counts the overlapping lines. If two lines of 10 km each have a common trip on 5 km, then the network lenght is 15 km, not 20.

I have moved the Napoli-Sorrento line to the Napoli commuter section. Do you have details of the full rote length of Napoli metropolitan area commuter rail network?

No, I don't. And anyway it's hard to define where a metropolitan area ends.

Milan streetcars network is about 170 km, 200 counting interurban lines, but I don't have exact figures. But 287 km is too much. Maybe the 287 counts the overlapping lines. If two lines of 10 km each have a common trip on 5 km, then the network lenght is 15 km, not 20.
287 is the figure given by Atm (Milan transport authority) in its official website

Milan streetcars network is about 170 km, 200 counting interurban lines, but I don't have exact figures. But 287 km is too much. Maybe the 287 counts the overlapping lines. If two lines of 10 km each have a common trip on 5 km, then the network lenght is 15 km, not 20.


This could be the problem, however, usually track length is much greater than route length as most lines in the city are dual, plus there are the turning points, maintenence lines, tram depot lines etc. I would imagine if the route km was 170-200km, the track km length would be greater than 287km.

I have heard that there are about 170 km of urban double track used by one or more services, plus 30 km of suburban single track lines (with passing loops). There aren't a lot of unused tracks, but I don't know if these are counted into the 170+30 km.

I see that you have noted as "light rail" many european suburban or interurban narrow-gauge railways.

Italy

Catania (1999) 3.8km M
Genova (1990) 5.5km M (there are no LR, but some funicularas not included in the 5.5 km)
Napoli-Sorrento (1891) 144km suburban narrow-gauge railway
Roma (1916-1955) 214.6km M+LR (incl. 33.5km M only) (there are 33.5 km of metro, plus some suburban railways, plus about 50 km of tramways)
What about the 111 kms of Circumetnea Railway in Catania, since 1883?

http://community.iexplore.com/photos/journal_photos/trein_1.JPG

(The current Catania metro data is correct, other 5 kms are under construction: news (http://web.tiscali.it/andreacatania/catania/metro.html))

The Circumetnea is an interurban railway and cannot be considered urban transit.

^^

But it crosses urban areas linking also different areas of the same city. :)


Catania metro:

yQ1d1LHiP40

(only in Italian, sorry)

^^But it is not "metro".
;)

^^But it is not "metro".
;)
Well, it's metro too! The same company provides the metro service and the railway interurban one. Maybe the video doesn't distinguish it very well, especially if you don't understand the comment.

The current subway consists of just one line serving six stations. The length of the line is increasing and there are many new stations under construction.

(Catania Subway (http://web.tiscalinet.it/andreacatania/catania/metro_eng.html))

There is only one train per hour (roughly, sometimes there is a hole of 1h30)...

The metro has a 15-minutes headway.

There is only one train per hour (roughly, sometimes there is a hole of 1h30)...

The metro has a 15-minutes headway.
Some authors say never more than 10 minutes. :yes:

:wink2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7dulrOirag

Here is my trip from Østhorn to Majorstuen. Dont know if you like the music etc, but I tried atleast to come up with something :)

Line 3 is the line.

Location: Oslo, Norway

Antalya Tram is 4,8km

Built on 1999

Update for Madrid metro: now 282 kms.
:eek:
Update for Barcelona metro: now 145 stations, 108 kms.
Update for Barcelona tramway: new line T5 to Sant Adrià de Besòs.
;)

There's also a commuter & suburban rail network in Copenhagen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Train)...couldn't find out how many km it is

Update for Madrid metro: now 282 kms.
:eek:
Update for Barcelona metro: now 145 stations, 108 kms.
Update for Barcelona tramway: new line T5 to Sant Adrià de Besòs.
;)

Fantastic. That's a massive update for Madrid. Pitty Spain is letting Barcelona lag a bit behind here.

This is everything I have: the system will consist in 3 line of tram that will link the city center with some towns of the metropolitan area. The firs line will be complete in this year...the tram will be grey with a red stripe and a flower (ancient symbol of Florence). There's another project financed by the italian government and some tuscanian authority also: a metro VAL for the city center very similar to Turin metro...but it will be hard to build it becouse Florence is too much ancient for a subway and Florence has a population of 550 000 only!
http://i11.tinypic.com/3yr8pe8.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/2iktg2f.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/29bloxc.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/2vrvs0p.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/4cswd4j.jpg
http://i18.tinypic.com/2rc99ft.jpg

Oslo got 550 000 and its the capital of Norway. We have 6 subway lines, 8 tram lines and also local train lines. So Florence as any other big towns of this sizes should have some sort of electric transportation. It gives so much better feeling overal.

Justme I don't get your point about how you classify the french networks, e.g. Lille is considered a metro in your list but Toulouse and Rennes are considered light rails, while all 3 of them use the same VAL system (light metro). Anyway by french standards a VAL is considered a metro, while some networks we call trams would be considered light rails in other countries because most of them are not streetcars but operate in full ROW systems (e.g. T2 in Paris or T4 which is actually a tram-train).

Anyway here are my figures for Paris :
"Métro" : 213
Light metro ("VAL") : 10,8
"RER" : 571 (with 246 stations, not 240)
"Tram" : 19 (streetcar) ; 19,2 (light rail)

so technically we have :
243 (M + LR)
19 (streetcar)

Fantastic. That's a massive update for Madrid. Pitty Spain is letting Barcelona lag a bit behind here.
Do not worry about Barcelona, we have 120 km. of full metro under construction.
;)
The problem is that everything is delayed...
:dunno:

120km under construction! Now that's impressive. Including the delays, what are the time scales we are looking at?

I've updated the list for France (modifications in bold):

Metro + Light Rail:

Lille (1983) 45.2km M *
Lyon (1862-1978) 30.5km M
Marseille (1977) 21.8km M
Paris (1900) 243km M+LR
Rennes (1997) 9.4km M *
Rouen (1994) 15.7km LR **
Toulouse (1993) 27.5km M ***

Tram (Street car):

Bordeaux (2003) 30.4km
Caen (2002) 15.5km
Clermont-Ferrand (2006) 14.2km
Grenoble (1987) 32km
Lille (1993) 19km
Lyon (2001) 40.7km
Marseille -> network closed since 2004
Montpelier (2000) 35.3km
Mulhouse (2006) 11.7km
Nancy (2000) 11.1km
Nantes (1985) 40.4km
Orleans (2000) 18km
Paris (1992) 19km (street cars only)
Rouen -> see LR
St Etienne (1881) 11.7km
Strasbourg (1994) 31.5km
Valenciennes (2006) 9.5km

Under Construction:
Bordeaux (2007) 20km under construction
Grenoble (20/05/2006) 11.5km under construction
Le Mans (2007) 15.4km under construction
Lyon (200) 14.6km under construction
Marseille (2007) 11km under construction
Montpellier -> done
Mulhouse -> done
Nantes -> done
Nice (2007) 8.8km under construction
Orleans (2007) 21km under construction
Paris (2008) 16.3km under construction
St Etienne -> done
Strasbourg (2008) 22.2km under construction
Valenciennes -> done
Valenciennes (2007) 8.5km under construction

Suburban Rail:

Paris - 1401km (Ile de France, 5xRER lines and 8xSuburban lines)
(571km for RER, 246 stations + Commuter 833km, 237 stations)


Notes:
* technically the 'VAL' is light Metro
** Rouen has a pré-métro which is the equivalent to Frankfurt or Stuttgart Stadtbahn. Here many call it 'métro' but I don't know where you would classify it in your list...
*** The 15km line 2 of Toulouse métro is opening this month.

120km under construction! Now that's impressive. Including the delays, what are the time scales we are looking at?
They were expected to be ready in 2010, but in the end they will be ready in 2015. So:
At least 230 km. of full metro in Barcelona in 2015. Plus many new kilometres of light metro, called TRAM.
:wink2:

In Rouen, it is a light rail or tram not a subway
* In France tram are light rail, :)
Streetcar is more for old tramways wich are not separeted that the traffic. :)


The list for France (modifications in bold):

Metro and light metro (VAL)

Lille (1983) 45.2km M *
Lyon (1862-1978) 30.5km M
Marseille (1977) 21.8km M
Paris (1900) 243km M+LR
Rennes (1997) 9.4km M *
Toulouse (1993) 27.5km M ***

Tram (Light rail) :

Bordeaux (2003) 30.4km
Caen (2002) 15.5km
Clermont-Ferrand (2006) 14.2km
Grenoble (1987) 32km
Lille (1993) 19km
Lyon (2001) 40.7km
Marseille -> network closed since 2004
Montpelier (2000) 35.3km
Mulhouse (2006) 11.7km
Nancy (2000) 11.1km
Nantes (1985) 40.4km
Orleans (2000) 18km
Paris (1992) 19km (street cars only)
Rouen (1994) 15.7km**
St Etienne (1881) 11.7km
Strasbourg (1994) 31.5km
Valenciennes (2006) 9.5km

Under Construction:
Bordeaux (2007) 20km under construction
Grenoble (20/05/2006) 11.5km under construction
Le Mans (2007) 15.4km under construction
Lyon (200) 14.6km under construction
Marseille (2007) 11km under construction
Nice (2007) 8.8km under construction
Orleans (2007) 21km under construction
Paris (2008) 16.3km under construction
Strasbourg (2008) 22.2km under construction
Valenciennes (2007) 8.5km under construction

Suburban Rail:

Paris - 1401km (Ile de France, 5xRER lines and 8xSuburban lines)
(571km for RER, 246 stations + Commuter 833km, 237 stations)


Notes:
* technically the 'VAL' is light Metro
** Rouen has a pré-métro which is the equivalent to Frankfurt or Stuttgart Stadtbahn.
*** The 15km line 2 of Toulouse métro is opening this month.

^^ see my post on top:

Anyway by french standards some networks we call trams would be considered light rails in other countries because most of them are not streetcars but operate in full ROW systems (e.g. T2 in Paris or T4 which is actually a tram-train).

Au passage Minato 'Light Rail' ça ne correspond pas à grand chose chez nous, on se contente du dualisme métro/tram. De toute évidence on ne peut pas mettre dans le même panier le pré-métro de Rouen, le T2 parisien, le tram-train des Coquetiers, le TVR nancéien, et le TSF nantais. Les allemands font la distinction stadtbahn/strassenbahn, nous non, faut-il pour autant appeler (à tort) tout système de tram 'Light Rail' ?

edit: j'avais oublié le tram sur pneus clermontois, difficile de fourrer ça dans la catégorie LR non?

Tram is the perfect word. :)

Tram is the perfect world. :)
World or word?
:?

Sorry :D

Spain

Barcelona (1892/1924) 108km M
Bilbao (1995-2002) 60km M+LR
Donostia (San Sebastian) (1882) 156km LR
Gijón-Pravia (1909) 64km LR
Madrid (1919) 282km M
Palma-Sóller (1912) 23km LR
Santander (1892) 153km LR
Valencia (1988) 127km LR

Regarding Palma: Metro has a lenght of 8,1KM.

Palma - Sóller is not Light - rail, the tramway runs only from Sóller to Port de Sóller and it's maybe 2Kms only. Both systems are nowadays expensive touristic attractions.

Update for Madrid metro: now 282 kms.
:eek:
Update for Barcelona metro: now 145 stations, 108 kms.
Update for Barcelona tramway: new line T5 to Sant Adrià de Besòs.
;)

282 or 283?

^^ 282,459km ;)

Do not worry about Barcelona, we have 120 km. of full metro under construction.
;)
The problem is that everything is delayed...
:dunno:

I'd really like to see those numbers broken down, all I know is that under construction is the new L9/L10 with 47-50km and three extensions to L2 ~1 km L3 ~2 km and L5 ~3km so about 55 km of new metro, where do you get the other 65 km from?

The former L12 (~30 km) was changed to Commuter line and I don't know of any other large scale projects except for some planned short extensions to L1 L2, L4 L6 and L8 but these are only short sections between 1km and up to 5 km.

^^I was counting new Metro del Vallès, Metro del Llobregat extensions and the old line 12 too.
;)

^^ I never understood the idea with L12/R3 line, it is supposed to improve transport between Castelledefells, Gava, Villadecans and Sant Boi but also relieve the congested C2/R2 line. Now if they had opted for the metro solution it would have had little impact on relieving the comuter line, no one would have used the metro as an alternantive to commute from Castelldefells to Bacelona.

With a metro trip close to 50 min when the train takes 20 it would have been useless, then they changed it to comuter but still kept the same station distance 7-800 meters, that means a very slow comercial speed so it will still take 40 min to reach Barcelona from Castelldefells, really stupid I think. Why not instead build a rapid tram between these cities and up the frequecy on the C2/R2 line instead.

Tram (Street Car) networks (city proper, not metropolitan area)

Czech Republic (CZ)
Brno (1884) 75.6km
Liberec (1887) 21km
Most (1957) 19km
Olomouc (1889) 14.2km
Ostrava(1894) 58.2km
Plzen (1899) 26km
Praha (Prague) (1875) 270km




New
Top Tram networks in Europe by city proper network over 100km (Route km)
This list doesn't include the total trams within a metropolitan area.

Sankt Peterburg: 692km (possibly track length, not route length)
Moskva: 418.8km
Milano: 287km
Katowice: 245km
Vienna: 240km
Sofia: 222km
Bruxelles: 205km
Köln: 188.5km
Berlin: 187.7km
Budapest: 156km
Bucuresti: 155km
Leipzig: 152.6km
Oslo: 152.5km
Karlsruhe: 149.9km
Düsseldorf: 146.3km
Göteborg: 144km
Kyiv: 139.9km
Basel: 139km
Amsterdam: 138km
Kharkiv: 132.2km
Dresden: 129.6km
Den Haag: 128.1km
Beograd: 127.3km
Prague: 125km

@Justme: great work!!!
Both lists networks within city proper and not the metropolitan area; still Prague seems to have two different numbers. What is the story behind this difference?

Belgium:
Charleroi, Antwerpen

You forget some main french cities!!!
Cities with tramway/light rail:
Nantes
Grenoble
Saint Etienne
Caen
Rouen
Clermont Ferrand
Strasbourg
Valenciennes
Bordeaux
Orléans
Mulhouse
Montpellier
Laon (POMA)

Thanks

I disagree with you!!
In french, we say only tramway or métro, but technically, we call some network Métrobus (kind of tramway with underground part) in Rouen, but in Caen, it is tram sur pneus, or hybride. Concerning métro, Lille or Rennes use VAL (Véhicule Automatique Léger) but the one of Lyon (Maggaly=Métro à grand gabarit de l'agglomération lyonnaise) is bigger than traditionnal VAL.

^^ the system used in Lyon is the same of PAris (lines 1, 4, 6, 11 and 14) and is *NOT* a VAL.

The system in Rouen is a tramway with some underground sections, or a prémetro, like in Bruxelles and Antwerpen. "Metrobus" is only a commercial name, often used everywhere in the world to design any type of new transit line (metro entirely underground, tramways, bus rapid transit, ...).

^^ the system used in Lyon is the same of PAris (lines 1, 4, 6, 11 and 14) and is *NOT* a VAL.

The system in Rouen is a tramway with some underground sections, or a prémetro, like in Bruxelles and Antwerpen. "Metrobus" is only a commercial name, often used everywhere in the world to design any type of new transit line (metro entirely underground, tramways, bus rapid transit, ...).

Sorry, but MAGGALY in Lyon is not the same system than Paris.
And Lyon's system is not the same than all lines in Paris.

Lyon's lines A, B, D and Paris' 1, 4, 6, 11, 14 use all the same type of tracks and wheels. Line D or MAGGALY and line 14 (METEOR) use two different types of automatic trains, and lines A-B-1-4-6-11 are human operated. but all use the same track system (two rails for iron wheels plus two beams for tyres).

The VAL is differend, using only wheels with tyres.

A commuter rail system in Stockholm called Roslagsbanan appears to be missing from the list. Its three lines are 65 km long in total. It terminates at Östra Station near Tekniska Högskolan (Royal Institute of Technology) in Östermalm and runs to Kårsta, Österskär and Näsbypark. The first part of the system was inaugurated in 1876

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/X10p.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Roslagsbanan.svg/600px-Roslagsbanan.svg.png

More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roslagsbanan

Sorry, but MAGGALY in Lyon is not the same system than Paris.
No it is same, Paris metro line 14 use MAGGALY technology but with PED.

Prague has 565 km of the tram routes (133 km of track - 12 2006)
Metro: 59,3 km, 57 stations (2007)

Correct these facts, please!!!

Cities with more than 100km. of full metro, updated 20/8/2007:
:)
1. London ...................421.00km.
2. New York................398.00km.
3. Tokyo......................292.30km.
4. Seoul.......................286.90km.
5. Moscow...................279.30km.
6. Madrid.....................265.00km.
7. Paris.........................213.00km.
8. Mexico City...............201.70km.
9. Washington..............171.20km.
10. San Francisco.........166.90km.
11. Chicago..................166.00km.
12. Berlin.....................144.10km.
13. Osaka.....................137.80km.
14. Beijing…….........……..114.00km.
15. Singapore...............109.00km.
16. Barcelona...............106.40km.
17. Stockholm..............105.70km.
18. Saint Petersburg…...105.50km.
19. Shanghai…...……......103.50km.
20. Hamburg.................100.70km.
:wink2:

The Line lenght of Zurich seems to be wrong. Official length on the VBZ.ch Webpage is 111.6km. I'm not sure if in this the new extension to Auzelg ist allready included, but sure the extension to the Airport is missing...

Cities with more than 100km. of full metro, updated 20/8/2007:
:)
1. London ...................421.00km.
2. New York................398.00km.
3. Tokyo......................292.30km.
4. Seoul.......................286.90km.
5. Moscow...................279.30km.
6. Madrid.....................265.00km.
7. Paris.........................213.00km.
8. Mexico City...............201.70km.
9. Washington..............171.20km.
10. San Francisco.........166.90km.
11. Chicago..................166.00km.
12. Berlin.....................144.10km.
13. Osaka.....................137.80km.
14. Beijing…….........……..114.00km.
15. Singapore...............109.00km.
16. Barcelona...............106.40km.
17. Stockholm..............105.70km.
18. Saint Petersburg…...105.50km.
19. Shanghai…...……......103.50km.
20. Hamburg.................100.70km.
:wink2:

And very soon in about 2 years, also Santiago with 104,5 km.

The Line lenght of Zurich seems to be wrong. Official length on the VBZ.ch Webpage is 111.6km. I'm not sure if in this the new extension to Auzelg ist allready included, but sure the extension to the Airport is missing...
But that is not full metro...
;)

But that is not full metro...
;)
Yep. But the topic is about Metro, lightrail and tramlines ;)

Yep. But the topic is about Metro, lightrail and tramlines ;)
Yes, you are right.
;)

By the way, correction and update for my list:
:)
1. London ...................421.00km.
2. New York................398.00km.
3. Tokyo......................292.30km.
4. Seoul.......................286.90km.
5. Moscow...................285.52km.
6. Madrid.....................281.58km.
7. Paris.........................213.00km.
8. Mexico City...............201.70km.
9. Washington..............171.20km.
10. San Francisco.........166.90km.
11. Chicago..................166.00km.
12. Berlin.....................144.10km.
13. Osaka.....................137.80km.
14. Beijing…….........……..114.00km.
15. Singapore...............109.00km.
16. Barcelona...............106.40km.
17. Stockholm..............105.70km.
18. Saint Petersburg…...105.50km.
19. Shanghai…...……......103.50km.
20. Hamburg.................100.70km.
:wink2:
Thanks to ARRiACA!
:bowtie:

Thanks for the info guys. I'll update in a couple of days when I get some time.

Damn busy at the moment.

Moscow - 278,8km at the moment. 282,52km by the end of august and 294,0km by 20th december.

"New
Top Tram networks in Europe by city proper network over 100km (Route km)
This list doesn't include the total trams within a metropolitan area.

Sankt Peterburg: 692km (possibly track length, not route length)
Moskva: 418.8km
Milano: 287km"

Milan also has 267 km of Suburban network

Barcelona update, for my favourite thread:
;)
Since 8/9/2007:
:happy:
Metro........................106.40 km.
Tramway.................... 30.00 km.
Trains........................566.00 km.
Funiculars......................1.50 km.
------------------------------------
TOTAL........................703.90 km.
:wink2:

fantastic. Updated (though Barcelona seems to have dropped from the previous 108km to 106.4km?

fantastic. Updated (though Barcelona seems to have dropped from the previous 108km to 106.4km?
It is more exact counting.
;)
Also in Madrid you need to add the new tramways: 10 or 20km.
:yes:

It is more exact counting.
;)
Also in Madrid you need to add the new tramways: 10 or 20km.
:yes:

Thanks. For Madrid, I need the accurate figure.

1. London ...................421.00km.
2. New York................398.00km.
3. Tokyo......................292.30km.
4. Seoul.......................286.90km.
5. Moscow...................279.30km.
6. Madrid.....................265.00km.
7. Paris.........................213.00km.
8. Mexico City...............201.70km.
9. Washington..............171.20km.
10. San Francisco.........166.90km.

SF does not have a real metro. And these line go far outside the city. Only less than 20 km are in San Francisco! With less than 8 stations! It is really a regional commuter railroad with the appearence of a metro.

In October Munich Metro will exceed 100 km. Actually there's a length of 98,4 km under service. The extension of the U3 north opening in October will add another 2,2 km to the network.

1. London ...................421.00km.

London is 408 km... if you include the DLR then it's 439 km, but in no way can be 421 km.

2. New York................398.00km.

This figure seems in contradiction with many other sources which report the NYC Subway at 368 km.

BTW, does anyone have the accurate figure for the length of Madrid's metro (just metro, not counting ML) as of today?

Moscow - 294,0km by 20th december.

Good. How many stations then? (by 20th of December)

...

BTW, does anyone have the accurate figure for the length of Madrid's metro (just metro, not counting ML) as of today?
Nowadays, 281,58 km. of full metro in Madrid, no tramways counted.
:yes:
Tramways ML are around 10-20 km. long.
;)

Tours in France has a project of tram line, north/south. Open in 2013???

Thanks. For Madrid, I need the accurate figure.
Exact figure for Madrid tramways: 27,78 km.
;)

Again and again, it's the third time I repeat this, the following lines are not light rails:

Bulle (GFM) (1901) 48.4km LR
Lauterbrunnen (1891) 23.4km LR
Bex-Bévieux (1898) 3.4km

The first is an interurban line running in the countryside, with about one traineper hour.

The second is a touristic railway with a few interurban traffic.

The third was the first part of an interurban railway worked by a sort of small two-axle tramways, but this service has been discontineud a few years ago (the interurban line still runs, thought).

Actually the System length of Athens metro is bigger:
35 km (21.75 mi) (blue line)
11.6 km (7.21 mi) (red line)
25.6 km (15.91 mi) (green line)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athens_metro

;)

The tram figures table apparently combine track and route lengths. I have searched some the official sites of the operators and other sources and these are the figures of track lengths that should better reflect reality:

Sankt Peterburg 692 220 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramways_in_Saint_Petersburg)
Moskva 418,8 181,3 (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B9)
Milano 287 170 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trams_in_Europe)
Vienna 240 188 (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_Stra%C3%9Fenbahn)
Sofia 222 84 (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofia#Verkehr)
Oslo 152,5 40 (http://www.sporveien.no/upload/Dokumentvedlegg/facts_2006.pdf)
Karlsruhe 149,9 68,4 (http://www.kvv.de/vbk/documentpool/geschaeftsberichte/VBK_GB_2006.pdf)
Göteborg 144 80 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothenburg_tram)
Amsterdam 138 80,5 (http://www.gvb.nl/english/aboutgvb/facts-and-figures/transport.html)
Prague 125 140,9 (http://www.udipraha.cz/rocenky/rocenka06/texty/dtx03.htm#k1)

Wikipedia is certainly not the most reliable source on Earth, but its still better than nothing. I do not insist on replacing the current figures with the wiki-sourced, but they should definitely be marked as "route length". Figures for Katowice, Bruxelles, Basel and Den Haag seem also extremely high to be the track lengths only, but I was unable to find any source.

Milan track lenght is about 200 km, including the two suburban lines, 287 km may be the route lenght without suburban lines.

The page on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trams_in_Europe has some errors.

Justme's post still includes some Swiss touristic rack railways as "light rail" or "tramways".

The tram figures table apparently combine track and route lengths. I have searched some the official sites of the operators and other sources and these are the figures of track lengths that should better reflect reality:

Sankt Peterburg 692 220 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramways_in_Saint_Petersburg)
Moskva 418,8 181,3 (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B9)
Milano 287 170 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trams_in_Europe)
Vienna 240 188 (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_Stra%C3%9Fenbahn)
Sofia 222 84 (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofia#Verkehr)
Oslo 152,5 40 (http://www.sporveien.no/upload/Dokumentvedlegg/facts_2006.pdf)
Karlsruhe 149,9 68,4 (http://www.kvv.de/vbk/documentpool/geschaeftsberichte/VBK_GB_2006.pdf)
Göteborg 144 80 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothenburg_tram)
Amsterdam 138 80,5 (http://www.gvb.nl/english/aboutgvb/facts-and-figures/transport.html)
Prague 125 140,9 (http://www.udipraha.cz/rocenky/rocenka06/texty/dtx03.htm#k1)

Wikipedia is certainly not the most reliable source on Earth, but its still better than nothing. I do not insist on replacing the current figures with the wiki-sourced, but they should definitely be marked as "route length". Figures for Katowice, Bruxelles, Basel and Den Haag seem also extremely high to be the track lengths only, but I was unable to find any source.

Milan track lenght is about 200 km, including the two suburban lines, 287 km may be the route lenght without suburban lines.

The page on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trams_in_Europe has some errors.

Justme's post still includes some Swiss touristic rack railways as "light rail" or "tramways".
Interesting... it could be
Anyway nothing would change in list positions

For Milan I think there is to add a km or so for for recent route 7 extension; coccodrillo, when will the new tracks to Cinisello will be opened? next year? other 5 km to add

Up

Netherlands
Amsterdam (1977-1990) 60.5km M+LR
Rotterdam (1968) 75.9km M
Utrecht-Nieuwegein (1983) 21.5km LR

You can ad Zoetermeer 47km, LR to this list. The Zoetermeer Stadsline, a former city railroad, was completly rebuild. The lines reopend oktober 2007 as the RandstadRail lightrail project.

You can ad Zoetermeer 47km, LR to this list. The Zoetermeer Stadsline, a former city railroad, was completly rebuild. The lines reopend oktober 2007 as the RandstadRail lightrail project.

Actually it is a lightrail between Rotterdam and The Hague, right?

^^

Nope, not right :)

There are three RandstadRail routes. The Erasmusline, which runs from The Hague central station to Rotterdam central station, where it will be connected to existing subway system this year. This is actually an extended subway line, not a light rail. This line is operated by the RET public transport company and uses subway trains.

The other two lines run between The Hague and Zoetermeer, of which 47 km in Zoetermeer. In the Hague it runs like a normal tram/streetcar, between The Hague and Zoetermeer it runs like a commuter train and in Zoetermeer it runs like a real light rail. This line is operated by the HTM public transport company and uses light rail trains.

More info and pics in this topic; http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=560610

Please:
Add 2 more km. for Barcelona tramways. New line T6 opened some days ago.
;)

Added Alicante with km in operation:

Metro (Subway)/ Lightrail networks:
Spain (ES)

Alicante (2003) 95km M+LR
Barcelona (1892/1924) 106.4km M
Bilbao (1995-2002) 60km M+LR
Donostia (San Sebastian) (1882) 156km LR
Gijón-Pravia (1909) 64km LR
Madrid (1919) 281.58km M
Palma-Sóller (1912) 23km LR
Santander (1892) 153km LR
Valencia (1988) 127km LR

Steet Car:
Spain (ES) (Murcia, Seville and Tenerife added with km in operation)

Barcelona (1872/1997) 30km
Bilbao (2002) 4.4km
La Corunna (1997) 6.2km
Murcia (2007) 2km
Seville (2007) 1,3km
Sóller (1913) 5km
Tenerife (2007) 12,5km
Valencia (1994) 9.8km
Vitoria- Gasteiz (2004) 7.9km

For Germany, Garmisch-Partenkirchen doesn't have a Light Rail. If you're thinking of the Zugspitzbahn, it's a narrow-gauge rail used mainly by tourists and some few interurban passengers.

Lots of tram networks are missing, too (for example Augsburg and Munich).

New tunnel for commuter trains in Madrid, opened 1 month ago.
:yes:

Major Update.... Now starting commuter/suburban networks

Ok, here's a complete list of Metro (subway), Light Rail, and Tramlines (streetcars) in Europe... and now, starting commuter/suburban rail networks

A few points before looking at them:

* Many of the figures are inaccurate due to enlargements to the various networks. Some networks have increased enormously since the data on this list was printed. I have updated a couple of cities, but I certainly don't have the time to do them all.

Homework for SSC forumers: If your city is on this list, and you know of the latest figures. Or if I missed your city, please post details here

* The tram lines are generally based on city proper area's only. Many cities in Europe, especially Germany, may have more than one network in the metropolitan area (connected together by Metro, LR and/or commuter rail). However, these are listed seperately here, so if you wish to compare different metro's in network size... no luck unless you manually add them together.

* NO COMMUTER/SUBURBAN Rail is included in the Metro or Tram figures. Most, if not all of the more important cities also have extensive suburban rail networks, often ones that work similar to metro's in the city center by going unbderground and usually many times larger than their Metro or Light Rail network: These are NOT included in the figures below.

Updated: I am now starting (from scratch) Commuter & Suburban Rail networks seperate to Metro networks.... DETAILS REQUIRED.

There are very few details regarding exactly har far should be included in commuter rail in Europe, due in part to the haphazard way in which a city, it's suburbs or it's metro are decided. So, accurate information may be difficult or impossible to find.

As an example, all the German city figures, are only those designated S-bahn. It doesn't include any R-bahn which in all cases act as a commuter railway within the metro area of German city's. Finding this added information has be elusive to me...

anyway... enjoy:

Metro (Subway)/ Lightrail networks

LR=Light Rail
M= Metro(Subway)
M+LR = either Metro/light Rail combination, or seperate metro and Light Rail lines

Armenia
Yerevan (1981) 13.4km M

Austria
Gmunden-Vorchdorf (1912) 14.7km LR
Vorchdorf-Lambach (1903) 15.5km LR
Lambach-Haag (1901) 26.3km LR
Linz-Postlingberg (1898) 2.9km LR
Linz-Waizenkirchen (1912) 58.9km LR
Salzburg (1886) 34km LR
Serfaus (1985) 1.28km M
Vocklamarkt-Attersee (1913) 13.4km LR
Vienna (1865) 67km M+LR
Wien-Baden (1873) 30.4km LR

Azerbaijan
Baku (1967) 30.5km M

Belarus
Minsk (1984) 16.4km M

Belgium
Bruxelles (1976) 40.5km M
De Panne-Knokke (1885) 55km LR

Bulgaria
Sofia (1998) 5km M

Czech Republic
Prague (1974) 59.3km M

Denmark
Copenhagen (2002) 21km M

Finland
Helsinki (1982) 21.1kmM

France
Lille (1983) 45km M
Lyon (1862-1978) 30km M
Marseille (1977) 19km M
Paris (1900) 243km M+LR
Toulouse (1993) 12.5km LR
Rennes (1997) 9.4km

Georgia
Tbilisi (1966) 26.3km M

Germany
Berlin (1902) 143km M
Bochum-Gelsenkirchen (1989) 14.9km LR
Bonn (1911) 26km LR
Brannenburg (1912) 8km LR
Essen (1977) 35.2km LR
Frankfurt/Main (1968) 58km M+LR
Garmisch-Partenkirchen (1929) 20km LR
Hamburg (1912) 100km M
Hannover (1872) 116.6km M+LR
Königswinter (1883) 1.5km LR
Lichtenhain-Cursdorf (1923) 2.5km LR
Mannheim-Bad Dürkheim (1913) 16.3km LR
Mannheim-Heidelberg (1868) 61km LR
Munich (1971) 85km M
Nürnberg (1972) 26.4kmM
Strausberg (1893) 6.2km LR
Stuttgart (1975) 84.2km M+LR
Trossingen (1898) 4km LR
Wuppertal (1903) 13.3km LR

Greece
Athens (1904) 25.8km M

Hungary
Budapest (1896) 206.8km M+LR

Ireland
Dublin (200?) ??km M+LR

Italy
Catania (1999) 3.8km M
Genova (1929-2000) 5.5km M
Milano (1964) 84.2km M
Napoli (1993) 28km M
Roma (1916-1955) 33.5km M
Torino (2005) 9.6km M

Netherlands
Amsterdam (1977-1990) 60.5km M+LR
Rotterdam (1968) 75.9km M
Utrecht-Nieuwegein (1983) 21.5km LR

Norway
Oslo (1909-1966) 123.4km M+LR

Poland
Warszawa (1929-1995) 49.5kmM+LR

Portugal
Lisboa (1959) 30km M
Oporto (200?) ??km LR

Romania
Bucuresti (1959) 59.2km M

Russia
Kazan (2005) 7.7km M
Moscow (1935) 282.52 M+LR
Nizhni Novgorod (1985) 13km M
Novosibirsk (1986) 13km M
Sankt Peterburg (1955) 107km M
Samara (1987) 12.5km M
Ust-Ilimsk (1988) 14.6km LR
Volgograd (1972) 12.8km LR
Yekaterinburg (1991) 12km LR

Slovakia
Poprad-Strbské Pleso (1912) 35.0km LR
Strba-Strbské Pleso (1970) 5km LR

Spain
Barcelona (1892/1924) 106.4km M
Bilbao (1995-2002) 60km M+LR
Donostia (San Sebastian) (1882) 156km LR
Gijón-Pravia (1909) 64km LR
Madrid (1919) 281.58km M
Palma-Sóller (1912) 23km LR
Santander (1892) 153km LR
Valencia (1988) 127km LR

Sweden
Lidingö (1907) 9.2km LR
Nockebybanan (??) 5.6km LR
Saltsjöbanan (??) 18.6km LR
Stockholm (1877-1950) 113.3km M+LR
Tvärbanan (??) 11.5km LR

Switzerland
Aarau (WSB) (1901) 32.3km LR
Bern (1898-1912) 53.7km LR
Bremgarten-Dietikon (1902) 18.8km LR
Bulle (GFM) (1901) 48.4km LR
Genève (1994) 15km LR
Lausanne (1873) 22.6km LR
Lauterbrunnen (1891) 23.4km LR
Lugano-Ponte Tresa (1912) 12.2km LR
Zürich (1875) 26.9km LR

Turkey
Adana (??) 14km LR
Bursa (??) 17km LR
Istanbul (1989) 16.7km LR
Izmir (??) 13km LR

Ukraine
Dnipropetrovsk (1996) 11.2km M
Kharkiv (1975) 26km M
Kyiv (1969) 55.03km M+LR
Kriviy Rih (1986) 11.6km LR

United Kingdom
Birmingham (1999) 20km M+LR
Glasgow (1896) 10.4km M
London (1863) 408km M
Newcastle/Tyne (1980) 59.3km M+LR

Tram (Street Car) networks (city proper, not metropolitan area)

Austria (AT)
Gmunden: (1894) 2.5km
Graz (1878) 30.3km
Innsbruck (1891) 36km
Linz (1880) 19.2km
Wien (Vienna) (1865) 240km

Belarus (BY)
Minsk (1892) 32km
Masyr (1988) 22km
Navapolatsk (1974) 11.3km
Vitsyebsk (1898) 34.5km

Belgium (BE)
Antwerpen (1873) 57km
Bruxelles (1869) 205km
Charleroi (1887) 20km
Gent (1875) 30km

Bosnia Herzegovina (BA)
Sarajevo (1895) 16km

Bulgaria (BG)
Sofia (1901) 222km

Croatia (HR)
Osijek (1884) 12km
Zagreb (1891) 54.4km

Czech Republic (CZ)
Brno (1884) 75.6km
Liberec (1887) 21km
Most (1957) 19km
Olomouc (1889) 14.2km
Ostrava(1894) 58.2km
Plzen (1899) 26km
Praha (Prague) (1875) 133km

Estonia (EE)
Tallin (1888) 39km

Finland (FI)
Helsinki (1891) 75km

France (FR)
Bordeaux (2003) 27.4km
Grenoble (1987) 32km
Lille (1874) 22km
Lyon (2001) 25km
Marseille (1876) 3km
Montpelier (2000) 15.2km
Nantes (1985) 39km
Orleans (2000) 18km
Paris (1992) 20.4km
Rouen (1994) 15.8km
St Etienne (1881) 9.3km
Strasbourg (1994) 24.6km

Under Construction:
Bordeaux (2007) 20km under construction
Grenoble (20/05/2006) 11.5km under construction
Le Mans (2007) 15.4km under construction
Lyon (200) 14.6km under construction
Marseille (2007) 11km under construction
Montpellier (03/01/2007) 19.6km under construction
Mulhouse (13/05/2006) 12km under construction
Nantes (2006) 2.2km under construction
Nice (2007) 8.8km under construction
Orleans (2007) 21km under construction
Paris (2006-2008) 10.2km (7.9 + 2.3) under construction
St Etienne (2006) 2km under construction
Strasbourg (2008) 13.5km under construction
Valenciennes (06/2006) 9.5km under construction
Valenciennes (2007) 8.5km under construction

Germany (DE)
Augsburg (1881) 31.6km
Bad Schandau (1898) 8.1km
Berlin (1865) 189.4km
Bielefeld (1900) 26.1km
Bochum-Gelsenkirchen (1894) 87.8km
Bonn (1891) 28.7km
Brandenburg (1897) 19.6km
Braunschweig (1879) 34.3km
Bremen (1876) 58.6km
Chemnitz (1880) 22.3km
Cottbus (1903) 23.7km
Darmstadt (1886) 41.8km
Dessau (1894) 13.1km
Dortmund (1881) 75.5km
Dresden (1872) 131km
Duisburg (1881) 58.6km
Düsseldorf (1876) 146.3km
Erfurt (1883) 29.3km
Essen (1893) 94.2km
Frankfurt/Main (1872) 63.4km
Frankfurt (Rhein Main metro region) 125km
Frankfurt/Oder (1898) 25.1km
Freiburg/Breisgau (1902) 27.5km
Gera (1892) 14km
Görlitz (1882) 13.4km
Gotha (1894) 26.3km
Hagen (19??) ??km
Halberstadt (1887) 8.3km
Halle (1882) 84.5km
Heidelberg (1885) 19.7km
Herne (19??) ??km
Jena (1901) 21.4km
Karlsruhe (1877) 149.9km
Kassel (1877) 47.4km
Kohlfurth (1995) 1.2km
Köln (Cologne) (1877) 191.2km
Krefeld (1883) 46km
Leipzig (1872) 152.6km
Ludwigshafen (1878) 30.2km
Magdeburg (1877) 60.9km
Mainz (1883) 21.9km
Mannheim (1878) 58km
Mülheim/Ruhr (1897) 32.4km
München (Munich) (1876) 78.5km
Nordhausen (1900) 8.7km
Nürnberg (1891) 42.1km
Oberhausen (1996) 9.6km
Plauen (1894) 17.3km
Potsdam (1880) 27.5km
Rostock (1881) 33km
Saarbrücken (1997) 17.5km
Schönberger Strand (1996) 0.3km
Schöneiche (1910) 15.2km
Schwerin (1881) 22.2km
Strausberg (???) 6.2km
Stuttgart (1864) 10.9km
Ulm (1897) 5.8km
Woltersdorf (1913) 5.6km
Wuppertal (1901) 13.3km
Würzburg (1892) 19.4km
Zwickau (1894) 9.1km

Greece
Athens (2004) 26km

Hungary (HU)
Budapest (1866) 156km
Debrecen (1911) 6km
Miskolc (1897) 9km
Szeged (1884) 15km

Italy (IT)
Messina (2003) 7.7km
Milano (1876) 287km
Napoli (1875) 23km
Roma (1882) 65.9km
Sassari (Sardinia) (2006) 2.5km
Torino (1872) 150km
Trieste (1883) 5.2km

Latvia (LV)
Daugavpils (1946) 25.2km
Liepaya (1899) 14km
Riga (1882) 123km

The Netherlands
Amsterdam (1875) 138km
Den Haag (1864) 128.1km
Rotterdam (1879) 67km

Norway (NO)
Bergen (1997) 0.4km
Oslo (1875) 152.5km
Trondheim (1901) 8.8km

Poland (PL)
Bydgoszcz (1880) 32km
Czestochowa (1959) 10.5km
Elblag (1894) 14km
Gdansk (1873) 50km
Gorzów WLKP (1899) 14km
Grudziadz (1896) 9.5km
Katowice (1894) 245km
Krakow (1882) 79.5km
Lodz (1898) 113km
Poznan (1880) 85km
Szczecin (1879) 40km
Torun (1891) 11km
Warszawa (1865) 119km
Wroclaw (1877) 85km

Portugal (PT)
Lisboa (1873) 72km
Porto (1872) 13.9km
Sintra-Atlantico (1903) 3km

Romania (RO)
Arad (1896) 45.5km
Botosani (1991) 11km
Braila (1900) 15km
Brasov (1987) 6.7km
Bucuresti (1874) 155km
Cluj-Napoca (1987) 11.5km
Constanta (1984) 42km
Craiova (1987) 19km
Galati (1899) 35km
Iasi (1900) 64km
Oradea (1905) 20km
Ploeisti (1987) 18.5km
Resita (1988) 9.5km
Sibiu (1905) 10km
Timisoara (1899) 42km

Russia (RU)
Achinsk (1967) 19.5km
Angarsk (1953) 48.4km
Arkhangelsk (1916) 37.3km
Astrakhan (1900) 41.3km
Barnaul (1948) 61.5km
Biysk (1960) 35.7km
Chelyabinsk (1932) 79.4km
Cherepovets (1956) 13.9km
Cheryomushki (1991) 5.9km
Dzerzhinsk (1933) 43.2km
Irkutsk (1947) 20.7km
Ivanovo (1934) 20.7km
Izhevsk (1935) 37.8km
Kaliningrad (1881) 51.5km
Kazan (1875) 75.3km
Kemerovo (1940) 44.4km
Khabarovsk (1956) 37.3km
Kolomna (1948) 20.2km
Komsomolsk-na-Amure (1957) 20.9km
Krasnoarmeisk (1959) 10.2km
Krasnodar (1900) 56.6km
Krasnoturinsk (1954) 10.2km
Krasnoyarsk (1958) 38.8km
Kursk (1898) 46.1km
Lipetsk (1947) 54.5km
Magnitogorsk (1935) 71km
Moskva (Moscow) (1872) 418.8km
Naberezhnye (1973) 43.9km
Nizhnikamsk (1967) 29km
Nizhni Novgorod (1896) 100km
Nizhni Tagil (1937) 54.5km
Noginsk (1924) 13.7km
Novocherkassk (1954) 21.3km
Novokuznetsk (1933) 70km
Novosibirsk (1934) 90.3km
Novotroisk (1956) 15.1km
Omsk (1936) 65km
Orel (1898) 17.4km
Orsk (1948) 34.9km
Osinniki (1960) 11.6km
Perm (1929) 64.5km
Prokopyevsk (1936) 41.3km
Pyatigorsk (1904) 20.7km
Rostov-na-Donu (1887) 60.1km
Ryazan (1963) 12.4km
Sankt Peterburg (1863) 692km ??? Possibly Track length
Salavat (1957) 18.3km
Samara (1895) 91km
Saratov (1887) 18.4km
Shakhty (1932) 16,2km
Smolensk (1901) 28.1km
Stary Oskol (1981) 30km
Taganrog (1932) 22.7km
Tomsk (1949) 22.2km
Tula (188) 46.1km
Tver (1901) 45.5km
Ufa (1937) 78.2km
Ulan-Ude (1958) 28.4km
Ulyanovsk (1954) 59.9km
Usolye Sibirskoye (1967) 16.2km
Ust-Katav (1973) 4.1km
Vladikavkaz (1904) 26.4km
Vladivostok (1912) 22.1km
Volchansk (1951) 15.4km
Volgograd (1913) 41.2km
Volzhskiy (1963) 23.9km
Voronezh (1891) 87.4km
Yaroslavl (1900) 33.4km
Yekaterinburg (1929) 89.3km
Zlatoust (1924) 29.8km

Serbia (YU)
Beograd (1885) 127.3km

Slovakia (SK)
Bratislava (1895) 35.3km
Kosice (1891) 33.6km
Trencianská Teplá (1909) 5.4km

Spain (ES)
Barcelona (1872/1997) 30km
Bilbao (2002) 4.4km
La Corunna (1997) 6.2km
Sóller (1913) 5km
Valencia (1994) 9.8km
Vitoria- Gasteiz (2004) 7.9km

Sweden (SE)
Göteborg (Gothenburg) (1879) 144km
Malmö (1987) 1.4km
Norrköping (1904) 13km
Stockholm (1991) 2.6km

Switzerland (CH)
Basel (1895) 139km
Bern (1890) 17.6km
Bex-Bévieux (1898) 3.4km
Genève (1862) 10.2km
Zürich (1882) 111.6km

Turkey (TR)
Antalya (??) 4.8km
Eskisehir (??) 15km
Istanbul (1990) 11km
Konya (??) 18km

Ukraine (UA)
Avdiyivka (1965) 18km
Dniprodzerzhinsk (1935) 43km
Dnipropetrovsk (1897) 79km
Donetsk (1928) 60.2km
Druzhkivka (1945) 17.4km
Horlivka (1932) 31.2km
Kharkiv (1882) 132.2km
Kyiv (1892) 139.9km
Konotop (1949) 23.8km
Kostyatinivka (1931) 25.7km
Kramatorsk (1937) 19.2km
Kriviy Rih (1935) 36.8km
Luhansk (1934) 46km
Lviv (1880) 38.2km
Makiyivka (1935) 32.7km
Mariupol (1933) 56.8km
Molochne (1989) 1.5km
Nikolayiv (1887) 37.1km
Odesa (1910) 108.9km
Stakhanov (1937) 18km
Vinnitsya (1913) 21.2km
Yenakiyeve (1932) 16.4km
Yevpatoriya (1914) 17km
Zaporizhzhya (1932) 54.8km
Zhitomir (1899) 8.8km

United Kingdom (GB)
Birkenhead (1995)0.8km
Birmingham - Wolverhampton (1998) 20.4km
Blackpool (1885) 18km
London Croydon (2000) 28km
Douglas (IOM) (1876) 2.8km
Douglas-Ramsey (1893) 28.4km
Llandudno (1902) 1.6km
Leeds (????) ??km
Manchester (1992) 32km
Nottingham (????) ??km
Seaton (1970) 5.2km
Sheffield (1994) 3ß.5km
South Hampshire (????) ??km

Commuter & Suburban Rail Networks:

Austria
Vienna - 1579km

Belgium
Brussels - 210km (Not full metro area)

Czech Republic
Prague - 639.7km

Estonia
Tallinn - 131.6km

Finland
Helsinki - 60km

France
Paris - 1401km (Ile de France, 5xRER lines and 5xSuburban lines)
(571km for RER, 246 stations, Commuter 833km, 226 stations)

Germany
Berlin - 3107 (Combined S-bahn and Heavy Rail commuter)
Frankfurt - 1500km (complete Rhein Main commuter Rail)
Stuttgard - 117km (Does not yet include R-bahn coverage)

Italy
Milan - 250km (Only in official metro area, not including full commuter region)
Rome - 470km
Torino - 117km
Napoli-Sorrento (1891) 144km LR (not including other Napoli commuter rail)

Netherlands
Amsterdam, Rotterdam & Den Haag, amonsgt otehrs, forms a metropolitan area that should have a combined commuter network. Figures below are only within the direct urban area.
Amsterdam - 128km
Den Haag - 118km

Portugal
Lisbon - 240km.

Russia
Moscow - 3458km

Spain
Barcelona - 566km
Bilbao - 89.43km ( ET only )
Madrid - 335.7km
Seville - 30.1km (not full metro area)
Valencia - 101.1km

Sweden
Stockholm - 200km

Switzerland
Geneva - 30.8km (Not full metro area)
Zurich - 660km

United Kingdom
Birmingham - 186km
Glasgow - 109.3km
London 4642km (Network South East commuter system (788km in city proper)
Manchester - 292km

New
Top Tram networks in Europe by city proper network over 100km (Route km)
This list doesn't include the total trams within a metropolitan area. e.g. Frankfurt's metro area has three networks that are linked by S-bahn with a total of 125km. The Rhein Ruhr would also be enormous in total.

Sankt Peterburg: 692km (possibly track length, not route length)
Moskva: 418.8km
Milano: 287km
Katowice: 245km
Vienna: 240km
Sofia: 222km
Bruxelles: 205km
Köln: 188.5km
Berlin: 187.7km
Budapest: 156km
Bucuresti: 155km
Leipzig: 152.6km
Oslo: 152.5km
Karlsruhe: 149.9km
Düsseldorf: 146.3km
Göteborg: 144km
Kyiv: 139.9km
Basel: 139km
Amsterdam: 138km
Kharkiv: 132.2km
Dresden: 129.6km
Den Haag: 128.1km
Beograd: 127.3km
Prague: 125km
Torino: 123km
Riga: 123km
Warszawa: 119km
Lodz: 113km
Zürich: 111.6km
Odesa: 108.9km
Nizhni Novgorod: 100km

if this has been mentioned before, my apologies, but you missed off LIVERPOOL, UK - We have one of the oldest and most extensive local and underground/metro networks in the UK and Liverpool is one of the few cities in the UK to have an underground network at its centre.

3 Lines converge on the City of Liverpool - CITY LINE (national) Then the northern and wirral lines (wirral loops the city centre before passing back out over the river.

Debrecen,Szeged and Miskolc also have tramlines. I think Szeged has 24,6km and Miskolc 9,6 km and Debrecen about 5-6km(I cant get a number for this)

if this has been mentioned before, my apologies, but you missed off LIVERPOOL, UK - We have one of the oldest and most extensive local and underground/metro networks in the UK and Liverpool is one of the few cities in the UK to have an underground network at its centre.

3 Lines converge on the City of Liverpool - CITY LINE (national) Then the northern and wirral lines (wirral loops the city centre before passing back out over the river.

No problems. Liverpool is purposely left out as it doesn't qualify as a metro system. It usually lives under the suburban rail category. Yes, it does have underground sections but so do many suburban rail networks. In the city where I live is an S-bahn network where all lines pass through the central city at some point underground - it even looks like a metro here, but it's not listed in this thread except as part of the suburban/commuter networks at the end of the post.

If you have details on it's total route length, then I'll post it under the suburban/commuter list.

Debrecen,Szeged and Miskolc also have tramlines. I think Szeged has 24,6km and Miskolc 9,6 km and Debrecen about 5-6km(I cant get a number for this)

Can you confirm these lengths? If so, I'll update.

Can you confirm these lengths? If so, I'll update.



Szeged(in hungarian)
http://www.szkt.porta.hu/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=46&Itemid=77

Miskolc(document is about the new extension,which will contain the reconstruction of all old tracks)
http://www.mvkzrt.hu/tram-project/

For Debrecen,I got it with the distance-measurement tool in GM,thats why I said what I said...this site says 9 km:
http://www.torqmatic.extra.hu/DKV_HV.html (hungarian)


EDIT: Debrecen got trams in 1911,Szeged in 1908 and Miskolc in 1897.

Szeged(in hungarian)
http://www.szkt.porta.hu/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=46&Itemid=77

Miskolc(document is about the new extension,which will contain the reconstruction of all old tracks)
http://www.mvkzrt.hu/tram-project/

For Debrecen,I got it with the distance-measurement tool in GM,thats why I said what I said...this site says 9 km:
http://www.torqmatic.extra.hu/DKV_HV.html (hungarian)

Thanks. I take it they are route length (not track length which adds each track, i.e. double tracks) If so, I'll make the update

Thanks for the input.

Thanks. I take it they are route length (not track length which adds each track, i.e. double tracks) If so, I'll make the update

Thanks for the input.

Possible,but halving the number wont be good either...many of these lines use loops to turn around...

EDIT: BTW,the first tramline in Budapest opened in 1887

Budapest HÉV(suburban rail) is 102,9 km long,of which
-27,3 km single
-75,6 km double
-track length is 239,5 km
(2007 report of BKV)
But I cant give you exact number,as the national railways serve this purpose too,but dont count their lines separately...

In AUSTRIA the following information is missing:

Innsbruck (1891) 19.5 km LR
Gmunden (1894) 2.315 km LR
Graz (1878) 66.4 km LR

and Vienna is not correct it should be

Vienna (1865) 69km M + 181km LR

And Commuter and Suburbans misses:
Salzburg (2004) 93km (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Bahn_Salzburg)
Graz (2007) (no information http://www.s-bahn.steiermark.at/)
Innsbruck (2007) 36km (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Bahn_Innsbruck)

The numbers for Mannheim, Ludwigshafen and Heidelberg would really need to be combined due to being an interoperating network.

These are the following ones:

Light Rail
Mannheim-Bad Dürkheim (1913) 16.3km LR official: 16.4 km LR
Mannheim-Heidelberg (1868) 61km LR official: 63.8 km LR
Tram
Ludwigshafen (1878) 30.2km official: 25.3 km
Mannheim (1878) 58km official: 69.8 km LR
Heidelberg (1885) 19.7km official: 25.3 km LR


The entire "Rhine-Neckar" network is run in interoperation by a single company (RNV) nowadays, with identical trains using both tram and LR lines.

Combined length of interoperated LR+tram network - 200.6 km
of this:
Light Rail - 80.2 km
Metro - 4.2 km (officially; part of tram network)
Tram - 116.2 km (without above metro parts)

New numbers have been taken from operating company literature, and reflect split of companies within the new joint operating company RNV; the Ludwigshafen/Mannheim numbers were always screwy due to being an interoperated network officially split in 1964, with subsequent joint operation of lines.