Salford City Reds stadium coming on nicely as well.

http://www.ianj49.co.uk/stadium/stadium_2208_02.jpg

More about it here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=582849&page=22

All about it here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=582849&page=22

If you're going to make a topic on the UC board, at least have the decency to format your title and serving up something more than a link. Try following the format of the other threads, with relevant info and renders/construction pics.

Also, I could be wrong, but doesn't this section of the forum have a cut off point of 30,000 for stadiums to get their own thread?

I've seen better looking industrial estates!

I've seen better looking industrial estates!

??????

How come Rugby league/union teams are building new stadiums ?

How come Rugby league/union teams are building new stadiums ?

For obvious reasons like wanting to improve dilapidated facilities. You know, the usual reason for building new stadiums.

For obvious reasons like wanting to improve dilapidated facilities. You know, the usual reason for building new stadiums.

Yeah thats true but whats took them soo long.

The latest stand to be built at Highbury Stadium has been completed for many months now, but it's still worth posting this:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9963/fleetwood033.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/fleetwood033.jpg/)

We really do have some truly fantastic stadiums/stands at non-league level. :cheers:

Latest news regarding Craven Cottage:

http://www.fulhamfc.com/StadiumProject/FulhamForever.aspx#ixzz1aBy4UygV

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Fulham FC

Champions:
Football League Division One: 2000-1
Football League Division Two: 1948-9; 1998-9
Football league Division Three (South): 1931-2
Football Combination: 2001

Promoted:
Football League Division Two: 1958-9 (Runners-up)
Football League Division Three: 1970-1 (Runners-up); 1981-2 (Third Place); 1996-7 (Runners-up)

Cup Competitions:
UEFA Europa League Finalists: 2010
Inter Toto Cup Winners: 2002
FA Cup Finalists: 1975
FA Cup Semi-Finalists: 1908; 1936; 1958; 1962; 2002
Anglo Scottish Cup Finalists: 1975

Source:http://www.fulhamfc.com/Club/ClubHistory/Honours.aspx



http://www.reviewevents.com/VenueAdmin/Uploads/Venues/11648.jpg
Source: http://www.reviewevents.com/show-venue.asp?venueid=2397


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By Kenneth Yarham
Source: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Craven_Cottage_Football_Ground_-_geograph.org.uk_-_778731.jpg

Fulham to stay at Craven Cottage with plans to increase ground capacity

By Telegraph staff and agencies
9:00AM BST 08 Oct 2011

Fulham have confirmed they are staying at Craven Cottage and have revealed plans that would see the ground's capacity increase to 30,000.

The stadium has been the Fulham's home since 1896 and currently holds 25,700 after several refurbishment projects over the past decade.

Recent speculation suggested Fulham have been looking to move to a new stadium, and a potential ground share with west London neighbours QPR or Chelsea has also been reported.

However, the Cottagers have confirmed to Press Association Sport that no such talks have taken place with either club and that they intend to stay at a redeveloped Craven Cottage.

More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/fulham/8815046/Fulham-to-stay-at-Craven-Cottage-with-plans-to-increase-ground-capacity.html

very nice and classic design. lets hope they keep it when the renovating starts

Capacity of the stadium is less than 30k. According to the rules need to close thread.

^^^^ NO just move it to the England stadium thread.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Craven_Cottage_LH4736.jpg/800px-Craven_Cottage_LH4736.jpg

Didn't realize that Craven Cottage was that close to the water. Looks like there is absolutely no way to increase space on the sides.

Demolish the old stand at the road and build a new one at double the size.Love this ground.Im a scot,but i went to a Fulham-Blackburn game in 2000(2-1 to Fulham),but i had to go to the standing terracing in among the Blackburn fans,but my point is,i loved it,as leaning against a stantion is much more fun than sitting and its sad that those days will never return.
Whatever happens they should NEVER remove the cottage,as this is so unique in world soccer,that hopefully its a listed building and will remain here for ever.

Demolish the old stand at the road and build a new one at double the size.Love this ground.Im a scot,but i went to a Fulham-Blackburn game in 2000(2-1 to Fulham),but i had to go to the standing terracing in among the Blackburn fans,but my point is,i loved it,as leaning against a stantion is much more fun than sitting and its sad that those days will never return.
Whatever happens they should NEVER remove the cottage,as this is so unique in world soccer,that hopefully its a listed building and will remain here for ever.

Erm, so you want a stand that's listed to be demolished, but another historic part of Craven Cottage to be remain forever? :nuts:

Out of intertest, what, apart from the beautiful facade of the main stand warrants it being "listed"? Couldn't that be retained and a new internal structure built?

It's a lovely ground, along with Goodison Park and Loftus Road, the best in the PL. :)

Latest St.Helens rugby League stadium pictures.

The ground is almost complete, due to be handed over on the 24th October for internal fit out, which will then take a couple more months to complete.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310987_10150425217081233_588991232_10493841_1467636771_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/307468_10150425219966233_588991232_10493880_1451210746_n.jpg

the above two pics courtesy of smgphoto.co.uk

some interior shots as well

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6095/6226444368_bdd0044f23_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6153/6225925595_f23a6b2f4c_b.jpg

and some from outside the stadium

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6179/6246133291_2ff86a2d41_b.jpg

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Rotherham United's new stadium. :cheers:

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4674/23203834.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/23203834.jpg/)

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5151/11nov3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/11nov3.jpg/)

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6648/11nov4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/11nov4.jpg/)

http://www.rotherhamunited-mad.co.uk/roll/edb4/new_ground_pics_11th_november_712525/index.shtml

Maidstone United's new stadium is now under construction. Good for them. :)

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9582/capture1cp.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/683/capture1cp.jpg/)

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http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/2011/11/whatman-way-snapshot-12-november/

Work is progressing nicely with Rotherham's new stadium:

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5163/aezcy8bciaexhizjpglarge.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/aezcy8bciaexhizjpglarge.jpg/)

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http://twitter.com/#!/RotherhamGround/media/grid

Also in the news is Carlisle United's plan to build a new stadium:

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/home/carlisle-united-plan-to-move-from-brunton-park-1.898344?referrerPath=home

Now QPR are looking for sites to build a new stadium:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15919454.stm

More on the new stand at Craven Cottage:

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http://www.fulhamfcstadium.com/

More on the new stand at Craven Cottage:
a) Good for Fulham. They always appear a solid, honorable club and have historically had very nice support. Glad to see they're staying at the Cottage, too.

b) Says they can do this without impacting existing gameday attendance, but I really am struggling to see how. Even if they're simply building over the existing stand the sheer scale of the construction were talking about, in such cramped quarters no less, will surely have to impact the seating areas in some way? Maybe by timing the hardiest part of the construction during the silly season...

c) As for the overall look, this image has its charm but it seems decidedly out-of-sorts with everything else about the cottage and the neighborhood. Shouldn't they incorporate more brick into the facade, and/or a design with a few more historical influences? If not, and assuming the Cottagers fans are content, then I say more power to them.

Agree with gunner, this won't be an easy upgrade. It does look good though, even though its not in line with the feel of the stadium, I still like it.

Fulham have twice averaged over 30,000 (highest being 33,000), from 1950-52 (when pretty everyone was pulling numbers), and then again in 1960. I think thats really the benchmark for Fulham, a support base of around 30,000 in the Premier League, that dips to 15-18,000 in the second tier. That's pretty standard for English football clubs the size of Fulham.

If they can hit that 30k mark with this, then I think they'd have done well overall.

whoww fulham!

It's a good to see someone care of this old stadium by shed the lights on its renovation. I love this stand! Hope the others will follow quickly

Another one from inside the ground:

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/3830/77658107.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/77658107.jpg/)

^Be nice if they made that the new camera end, though it would mean they'd have to redevelop the current one.

There was a plan back in 2007 to refurbish the Riverside Stand and give it a mainly glass facade, but thankfully that didn't happen:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3241/75673433i.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/75673433i.jpg/)

Included in the 2007 redevelopment plans was the removal of the hospitality boxes in both the Riverside Stand and Putney End Stand. These areas were to be replaced with extra seating, which would've taken the capacity to 30,000, oh, and the Hammersmith End Stand was also going to be upgraded. I wonder if one day they'll still go ahead with the Putney End Stand and Hammersmith End Stand redevelopment? Here you can see an aerial view of the proposed 2007 redevelopment:

Before

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http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4485/17973313.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/17973313.jpg/)


After


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One last thing, here's the design that was proposed back in 2002 (so glad this didn't become a reality):

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1738/moderncravencottageorig.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/moderncravencottageorig.jpg/)

what would this new stand bring capacity up to?

^^ 30,000

I don't think that 2002 project is that bad at all tbh.

Does Appear at first glance a bit reminiscent of Swansea's ground though.

english stadiums are a nightmare to upgrade!!!
just because of their location. almost all of them are in an urban area with houses close to them...like chelsea, newcastle, or near a rail track like old trafford or close to a river like this one.

where came the idea to make a stadium so close to a river?!

I'm not sure whose idea it was, but it was first used as Fulham's ground in the 19th century. Here's a photo of the "stadium" in the early 20th century.

http://www.oldstratforduponavon.com/sitebuilder/images/cravencottage-465x298.jpg

I suspect it's only very recently that the Thames could be seen as an impedement to Fulham's progress (which is what I suspect you were implying in asking that question). In general it's a lovely location.

Taking into account Fulham aren't a traditionally "large" team the barrier of the Thames wasn't much of an issue. I remember Gillingham vs Fulham games in the bottom division not too long ago.

Exactly

I like that they're preserving that old Archibald Leitch stand. If I remember correctly it's the 2nd oldest stand still in use in England.

Taking into account Fulham aren't a traditionally "large" team the barrier of the Thames wasn't much of an issue. I remember Gillingham vs Fulham games in the bottom division not too long ago.

The ground was designed in the classic early 1900s design with one "grandstand" and three sides of terracing. This allowed a capacity of over 40,000 which clearly was big enough for Fulham, even when in the top flight.

It's only in the all-seater era that constrained sites have been a real headache for most clubs.

Another one from inside the ground:

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/3830/77658107.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/77658107.jpg/)

Reminds me a bit of Stamford Bridge's main grandstand.

Underhill (current home of Barnet F.C.) appears to be doomed. What a sorry state of affairs that is. :ohno:

http://www.barnetfc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10431~2547578,00.html

Try to ignore the red and blue seats if you can. ;)

Completed Salford City Stadium

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https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.182446831851363.40179.132590823503631&type=1

Underhill (current home of Barnet F.C.) appears to be doomed. What a sorry state of affairs that is. :ohno:

http://www.barnetfc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10431~2547578,00.html

What will happen with Barnet in near future?

^^ Groundshare until they build a new stadium. Watford? Leyton Orient? Guess we'll just have to wait and see who they're going to share a ground with.

Maybe even Stevenage, Dagenham and Redbridge or at a pinch Boreham Wood. Either way it'll hit their attendances hard. Barnet get around 1500 per week in Barnet, god knows how travelling across London to play their home games will affect them.

New Gloucester City Stadium

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/3625/capture1yd.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/capture1yd.jpg/)

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http://glcstrplnng12.co.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=externalDocuments&keyVal=LJC95EHM0BR00

Brighton's plan to expand their stadium to 30,000 with an extra 8000 seats:

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Those corners are looking almost as bad as the one's built at Old Trafford last decade. No uniform bowl.

Those corners are looking almost as bad as the one's built at Old Trafford last decade. No uniform bowl.

I think that's a good thing, gives it some character, there's too many uniform bowls.

I think that's a good thing, gives it some character, there's too many uniform bowls.

Totally agree with that. :)

I shouldn't have used the word uniform, what I meant was 'seamless' as the corners don't look naturally integrated into the ground.

A stadium can have stands which are not all identical and maintain their own look yet also clearly make a unified appearance, for example the end stands (or at least one) being one giant tier but the rest multiple with the corners blending it in. There is also a balance between having enough character so a stadium looks unique and too much difference so it appears as a complete mess (not the case here I should add).

are currently any new stadiums under construction ? Except Rotherham thx :)

Rotherham Stadium Update

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/264/56514259.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/56514259.jpg/)

http://twitter.com/#!/RotherhamGround/media/grid

are currently any new stadiums under construction ? Except Rotherham thx :)
Aside from Salford, another rugby team just finished their new ground

St Helens' Langtree Park
http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=385845&start=2770

^^Makes me happy

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7023/6691803851_11e851aae3_b.jpg

Concourses in UK stadiums really are breeze block heaven. :(

Interesting story (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2012/jan/12/darlington-insolvent-arena-trust-administration) about the death knell of Darlington FC because they built a stadium far too big for their income levels.

^^ Ah, the scumbag that is George Reynolds. Yep, build a 25,000 seater stadium, yet the capacity is limited to 10,000. :|

Maybe even Stevenage, Dagenham and Redbridge or at a pinch Boreham Wood.

Could be, well, if you believe the latest rumour. It's not a bad ground, but more seats would be needed.

http://hoppysnaps.blogspot.com/2010/04/boreham-wood.html

Interesting story (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2012/jan/12/darlington-insolvent-arena-trust-administration) about the death knell of Darlington FC because they built a stadium far too big for their income levels.

The stadium was too big for their city, not so much the income levels. Darlington hovers around 100k people, so to build a stadium of 25,000 is utter insanity. Then you also have Middlesbrough half an hour away (they also overbuilt mind you). Something in that Teeside water

when it going to get completed

The stadium was too big for their city, not so much the income levels. Darlington hovers around 100k people, so to build a stadium of 25,000 is utter insanity. Then you also have Middlesbrough half an hour away (they also overbuilt mind you). Something in that Teeside water

I'd just like to point out that Aker Stadium in Molde Norway has a capacity of 11,800 and a total catchment area of about 30,000.

Could be, well, if you believe the latest rumour. It's not a bad ground, but more seats would be needed.

http://hoppysnaps.blogspot.com/2010/04/boreham-wood.html

Looking at that ground if Barnet were to ground share they'd most likely have to install some temporary seating to satisfy Football League regulations of seating capacity...but it's atleast feasible. Let's hope it doesn't have to come to that as I quite like Barnet (just not Izale Mcleod...).

Interesting story (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2012/jan/12/darlington-insolvent-arena-trust-administration) about the death knell of Darlington FC because they built a stadium far too big for their income levels.

Yes it does seem like were going to lose the club. they club never built the stadium the former owner george reynolds who blew £35million on the stadium and land but had no real plan for the football club, he just wanted a big stadium named after him

^^ Ah, the scumbag that is George Reynolds. Yep, build a 25,000 seater stadium, yet the capacity is limited to 10,000. :|

Scumbag is being very nice to his former convicted criminal. the local council put a limit on the stadiums capacity because of traffice plans

The stadium was too big for their city, not so much the income levels. Darlington hovers around 100k people, so to build a stadium of 25,000 is utter insanity. Then you also have Middlesbrough half an hour away (they also overbuilt mind you). Something in that Teeside water

Yes we the fans know the stadium was way to big for the town. we have only had 23,000 fans once for a game against chelsea in the 1950's. has for middlesbourghs riverside I think they only just built it that big because they were in the premier league but now are not. plus its not haft an hour a way its more like 15minutes. Darlington is not in Teesside.

http://www.darlofc.co.uk/ this is the Darlington FC Forum which is trying to rise funds to help save the club.

Is it possible to move back to Feethams? Is this stand still there?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Feethams_Football_Ground,_Darlington_-_geograph.org.uk_-_76612.jpg

^^ No, it was taken down. In fact, that stand was in the news last year:

http://www.gethampshire.co.uk/sport/farnboroughfc/s/2091214_football_boro_stand_up_to_woking

the stand is sitting in a lock up ready for someone else to buy it. plus the cricket club don't want the football club back now since they own the land. the land is beind ear marked for houses but that is taking its time. the club are looking at playing at Darlington Railway Athletic Club's ground which is a bit small or going to Eastbourne Sports Complex which has a running track around the pitch.

[QUOTE=RMB2007;86667498]Try to ignore the red and blue seats if you can. ;)

Completed Salford City Stadium

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9890/37895818244805851790713.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5325/38729518244901518447813.jpg

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2350/39230818244798518458113.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.182446831851363.40179.132590823503631&type=1[/QUOTstadiums never seem to end up quite like their renders. I remember seeing a render with nice looking green seats.

the stand is sitting in a lock up ready for someone else to buy it. plus the cricket club don't want the football club back now since they own the land. the land is beind ear marked for houses but that is taking its time. the club are looking at playing at Darlington Railway Athletic Club's ground which is a bit small or going to Eastbourne Sports Complex which has a running track around the pitch.

Farnborough originally had first refusal on it, but they've hit the buffers financially, and it seems unlikely they'll go ahead and build the stand.

Woking are rumoured to be nipping in to buy it instead now.


Where Darlington play for the next couple of years (if re-formed) could make or break the club. A very basic venue like railway athletic's ground will probably hit support badly, and there's not much scope for expansion even if things do improve.

The problem is, it's not as if there are loads of options. In an ideal world the current stadium could be sold off for redevelopment and smaller stadium built from the proceeds, but that doesn't seem likely.

I'd just like to point out that Aker Stadium in Molde Norway has a capacity of 11,800 and a total catchment area of about 30,000.

the population of Watford is only 80k also,and the Vic holds around 20k(with one stand closed )

the population of Watford is only 80k also,and the Vic holds around 20k(with one stand closed )

The difference is that Watford's support isn't limited to the confines of Watford.

Molde doesn't exactly have much of a population nearby to draw from. The catchment area is undoubtedly over 30,000 but not by that much.


On the other hand Watford (like Darlington, but probably unlike Molde) suffers from having a large number of the fans in the area supporting another club.

^^^^ Yep supporting newcastle,sunderland, boro. then the big teams has in man utd and liverpool

Another non-league stadium with a bleak future by the sounds of it:

The club has been issued with a notice to vacate the Victoria Stadium after learning from joint charge receivers at business advisory firm Deloitte Touche that a third party bid for the land has been accepted.

http://northwichvics.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=633:club-statement&catid=35:club-announcements&Itemid=107

Would be a shame to see it go, 'cause Northwich only moved to the stadium in 2005. :ohno: The two stands are pretty decent for that level, especially the terrace. :)

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/579/p1050702h.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/p1050702h.jpg/)

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9573/p1050658g.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/p1050658g.jpg/)

https://picasaweb.google.com/bertiew58/NorthwichVictoria01OssettAlbion#

Fulham FC submits planning application

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http://www.lbhf.gov.uk/Directory/News/Fulham_FC_submits_planning_application.asp#4

I was watching Swansea defeat Arsenal last night (Yes we get EPL here, some games live, some delayed Fox Soccer Channel!!!) in Liberty Stadium. Now that's a beautiful little stadium. Maybe if Swansea keeps playing like that they will stay in the Premier League for awhile, but I fear expanding that stadium would ruin it.

http://www.freewebs.com/tims92/Swansea%20City/Liberty%20Stadium%20Panoramic%203.jpg

Fulham are £180 million in debt, so I've no idea how they can afford that.

I was watching Swansea defeat Arsenal last night (Yes we get EPL here, some games live, some delayed Fox Soccer Channel!!!) in Liberty Stadium. Now that's a beautiful little stadium. Maybe if Swansea keeps playing like that they will stay in the Premier League for awhile, but I fear expanding that stadium would ruin it. It is a great venue by appearances, but I don't think there's any fear of expanding soon seeing as it's still only 2-3 years old and there's little demand for more seating right now.

Fulham are £180 million in debt, so I've no idea how they can afford that.I didn't think it was that much. Last article I recall talking about the debts among Premiership clubs had Fulham listed as only having debts that were considered servicable with their revenues. I'll see if I can find that.

Even so, if this can be done without impacting existing matchday seating and if there really is demand then in theory this would remain a sound investment, provided they could land the up-front financing.

Edit: Okay, so after checking they're listed as having £167M in debts as of last year, most of it in the form of overinvestment/losses credited to their wealthy owner, Mr. Al-Fayed. According to some boards at least some of that could be officially written off as past losses and/or translated into new equity shares, providing MAF is willing to finally take those write-offs. But that's still a substantial debt.

Similarly, some boards are indicating the expansion is part of this process to improve financial states. An overvaluation of the resulting construction would allow the club to take off some of those debts (pay 50M, but value it at 60M, say) and increase avg revenues just as the Fair Play rules kick in. So if the club can hold on then by comparison the debt load would slowly represent a smaller and smaller figure compared to Fulham's net valuation. Especially as the new premiership contracts kick in.

That new stand at Craven Cottage is a beauty! Hope it goes ahead :cheers:

I was watching Swansea defeat Arsenal last night (Yes we get EPL here, some games live, some delayed Fox Soccer Channel!!!) in Liberty Stadium. Now that's a beautiful little stadium. Maybe if Swansea keeps playing like that they will stay in the Premier League for awhile, but I fear expanding that stadium would ruin it.


Even if Swansea wanted to expand it would be tricky, as they don't own the stadium. They are tenants along with the Ospreys rugby team.

I was watching Swansea defeat Arsenal last night (Yes we get EPL here, some games live, some delayed Fox Soccer Channel!!!) in Liberty Stadium. Now that's a beautiful little stadium. Maybe if Swansea keeps playing like that they will stay in the Premier League for awhile, but I fear expanding that stadium would ruin it.
There is absolutely nothing unique or distinctive at all about this identikit stadium so why would expanding it hurt anything? I would say KC Stadium is far more distinctive and yet they are planning a revamp in Hull.

PS: Let's not forget that Swansea is NOT in England ;)

^^ Indeed. The Liberty Stadium really is one of the bog-standard bowl type stadiums that football clubs here in the UK just love to build. :no:

http://tims92.blogspot.com/2011/02/swansea-city-liberty-stadium-ground-no.html

Hartsdown Park (Margate F.C.) redevelopment:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5112/stadiumartistimpression.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/stadiumartistimpression.jpg/)

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5112/stadiumartistimpression.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/403/stadiumartistimpression.jpg/)

www.margate-fc.com/content/Club/Stadium/development.php

Pretty decent for a non-league club at that level. It'd be nice to see a slightly bigger terrace behind at least one goal, but a modern ground, covered all round, is a good upgrade and should see crowds rise.

I would say KC Stadium is far more distinctive and yet they are planning a revamp in Hull.Really? Why?

Really? Why?
Why more distinctive or why are they thinking of revamping it?
I think it's way more distinctive due to the main stand's 2nd tier that used to be something rare in England, especially within the uninspiring identikit stadium range of Miller Partnership. Surely most dynamic of their designs.
As to why they were/are thinking of revamping it, it was around a year ago, in Jan 2011 that Ehab Allam announced aspirations to have a 40k+. Not sure about current affairs at HCAFC though.

Hartsdown Park (Margate F.C.) redevelopment:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5112/stadiumartistimpression.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/stadiumartistimpression.jpg/)

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5112/stadiumartistimpression.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/403/stadiumartistimpression.jpg/)

www.margate-fc.com/content/Club/Stadium/development.php

About time! They had hugely ambitious plans of getting a 5000 seater stadium at a time when they were in the conference, so bulldozed their entire stadium (except one stand) and then nearly went out of business twice. Nice to see where this goes, and if the Gills will play there once in a pre-season friendly.

London Road Redevelopment (Peterborough United F.C.)

Moy's End Terrace:

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5466/56589079843b0f50c903b.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8596/574239018196b54372ebb.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/574239018196b54372ebb.jpg/)

Images above from uplandswolf on Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/uplandsgeoff/5742390181/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/uplandsgeoff/5658907984/in/photostream

The future Moy's End :cry::

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6653/61527517.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6238/29071038.jpg

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3906/66897388.jpg

FWP have been appointed by DTP to progress the redevelopment of Peterborough United's London Road Stadium. The first phase East Stand is a proposed 2500 seater facility with an integral 30000 square feet educational 'STEM' facility.

http://www.fwpgroup.co.uk/projects/default_item.php?id=113

to be fair london road could do with some redevelopment, I went there in 2009 and they still had wooden seats.. although I think the new Moys end should have some kind of safe standing as well as seating.

York Community Stadium :yawn:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4679/25520048.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/25520048.jpg/)

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/1802/23762838.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/814/23762838.jpg/)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6452/90258259.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/338/90258259.jpg/)

www.yorkcommunitystadium.com/

Nice of the them to be eco friendly by seemingly replacing one of the stands with a bicycle shed.

The other three sides look like a direct copy of Chesterfield. The lack of imagination in this country is tragic.

Erm, anyone remember this? :eek:

The Meridian Stadium

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1633/meridianlrg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/meridianlrg.jpg/)

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9084/meridsml1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/meridsml1.jpg/)

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8770/meridsml3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/meridsml3.jpg/)

I've never heard of it. A quick search suggests it was more of a feasability study rather than an actual plan. There just isn't any call for a 60,000 seat stadium there. Who would use it?

I know before rebuilding The Valley, Charlton were looking at possibly moving there, but any plans they'd have had back then would have been rather more modest.

Nice of the them to be eco friendly by seemingly replacing one of the stands with a bicycle shed.

The other three sides look like a direct copy of Chesterfield. The lack of imagination in this country is tragic.

Lack of money more than anything.

Especially if this is to be a community stadium then I'm assuming it's local government funded.

As long as it has decent facilities and serves it's purpose well then they won't care what it looks like and they'll pick the cheapest option.

As far as I'm concerned, for it's purpose, it looks very smart. Doesn't need arches and swoops and curves and allsorts.

Lack of money more than anything.

Especially if this is to be a community stadium then I'm assuming it's local government funded.

As long as it has decent facilities and serves it's purpose well then they won't care what it looks like and they'll pick the cheapest option.

As far as I'm concerned, for it's purpose, it looks very smart. Doesn't need arches and swoops and curves and allsorts.

But it's worse than what they have currently, and in a poor location. A stadium is more than an extension next to a function room, yet that's how they seem to get treated these days.

There must have been about 50 grounds built in England over the last 20 years. How many of them are liked more than the stadiums they replaced? A tiny handful, if that. How many are considered crushingly dull? Nearly all of them.

It the total inability to even try to make new grounds interesting here that's depressing. It's as if the architechts just don't give a toss.

Rotherham United new stadium:

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4113/amclpmaceaad8zvjpglarge.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/amclpmaceaad8zvjpglarge.jpg/)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9359/amckhuuciaag7iwjpglarge.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/amckhuuciaag7iwjpglarge.jpg/)

http://twitter.com/#!/RotherhamGround/media/grid

Torquay United

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9145/fromgullsnest.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/fromgullsnest.jpg/)

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8823/frombehind.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/frombehind.jpg/)

http://torquayfansforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=general&thread=8793&post=89470

New renders of the boring Bristol Rovers stadium:

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/158/0103281057976100.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/513/0103281057976100.jpg/)

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/299/0103281057977500.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/0103281057977500.jpg/)

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/5493/0103281057977400.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/0103281057977400.jpg/)

Whats the cap?

It does look nice and compact

I like it :)

Bristol looks amazing. City need their permit too.

Torquay United

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9145/fromgullsnest.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/fromgullsnest.jpg/)

BBC Radio Bristol have recently tweeted This photo (http://twitpic.com/8ug9vo) of the new stand.

Thought I would have preffered the original Bristol Rovers redevelopment plans, and I'm generally against generic bowls in general, if they're more suited capacity wise to each team that's atleast a positive.

There's no point having a 25'000 seater bowl with only 5000 punters, that lesson was learnt the hard way with Darlo.

Thought I would have preffered the original Bristol Rovers redevelopment plans, and I'm generally against generic bowls in general, if they're more suited capacity wise to each team that's atleast a positive.

There's no point having a 25'000 seater bowl with only 5000 punters, that lesson was learnt the hard way with Darlo.

:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :gaah:

The former owner built the stadium for his own ego and had no ideal how to run a football club. The fans never wanted the arena and alot of fans still don't want the stadium

I went uwe university and brfc is my home club.
please build it.:)

:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :gaah:

The former owner built the stadium for his own ego and had no ideal how to run a football club. The fans never wanted the arena and alot of fans still don't want the stadium

I never said the fans wanted that stadium, just that building a horrendously over-capacitied stadium that would never get full was bound to come back to haunt the club....which it has.

Barnet staying at Underhill for another year:

http://www.barnetfc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10431~2656206,00.html

The new Wembley is really nice.http://www.youngbin.info/jie2.jpg
http://www.youngbin.info/jie3.jpg
http://www.youngbin.info/jie1.jpg

Finally some news on a new East Stand at Vicarage Road:

The Stanmore businessman said building work on the 5,000-seater stand will begin once the redevelopment of the half-built South-West corner is complete, which he expects to be anywhere between four to nine months.

Bassini said: “In the East Stand, we are going to have a medical centre, a sports centre, 20 new boxes, a community centre, there will be restaurants and a function room for 300 people.

“It is all signed and I have got the medical contracts.”

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/9536801.East_Stand_to_be_demolished_this_summer/r/?ref=rss

As it is now:

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/83/cimg5094p.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/cimg5094p.jpg/)

Torquay United. Update from Plainmoor's new 1,750 seater main stand

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9648/sam0465d.jpg

if we do put in another bid.http://www.progtours.info/jie2.jpg
http://www.progtours.info/jie3.jpg
http://www.progtours.info/jie1.jpg

MLB eyes London Olympic stadium

Major League Baseball officials have been watching with envy for years as the NBA, NFL and NHL played games in Europe. Now, stadiums in London and the Netherlands could provide the chance for baseball to follow suit.

The biggest obstacle for MLB in Europe has been to find a facility with the right dimensions and seating capacity, and London's Olympic Stadium is under consideration.

"That (London) stadium, the way it's built, actually is big enough for a baseball game," Clive Russell of MLB International told The Associated Press on Wednesday. "It's not perfect, but it has some real potential."

West Ham football club is among the bidders vying to take over the stadium after the Olympics, and Russell said that MLB is also talking to the games' legacy committee.

The London stadium will seat 80,000 spectators for the Olympics. After the games, it will be downsized to a 60,000-capacity multipurpose venue, including for track and field.

...

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7755976/mlb-eyes-london-olympic-stadium-baseball-games

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7755976/mlb-eyes-london-olympic-stadium-baseball-games

The biggest obstacle is that one in Europe cares, and for a good reason too. Out of the 4 major US sports it's the most boring one by faaaaaaaaaaaar.

Would go watch MLB over an NBA game any day !

Surely if baseball wants to come to england Lords would be better?

Hasn't someone played Baseball in England before? I seem to remember a large cricket stadium hosting a baseball game.

Yeah we did play baseball in this country for years and it was a very popular sport. Tho think you're thinking about when a team of professionals cricket players played a baseball game with professional baseball players at lords.

http://www.stanfordlehopeprimary.co.uk/Images/content/958/273429.gif


League One/Third Division (3rd tier)
Champions: 2005–06
Runners-up: 1989–90
League Two/Fourth Division (4th tier)
Champions: 1980–81
Runners-up: 1971–72, 1977–78
Play-off Winners: 2004–05
Football League Trophy
Runners-up: 2003–04, 2004–05

On 3 August 2006 local media reported that work was to start in 2007 on a £25 million 22,000 superstadium on the site at Fossetts Farm. Martin exclaimed that "plans are at an advanced stage now!"[41] and added that they would be submitted in late September 2006 after which there will be a 16-week public consultation. The new ground would be designed by HOK Sport, the company which built Arsenal's new Emirates Stadium and Sydney's Telstra Stadium, which hosted the 2000 Olympics. Ominously, they have also been involved in the building of the new Wembley Stadium. Martin also hinted that the new stadium would probably attract sponsorship from a local company, revealing that Coventry City get £1 million a year from Ricoh in return for naming their new ground the Ricoh Arena.
Planning Application 06/01021/RSO - Relocation of Southend United Football Club / Hotel, Residential and Retail Development.[42]
On 2 October 2006 plans were finally submitted for a 22,000 all-seater stadium to be built on the Fossetts Farm site to the north of the town. Designed by architects HOK, the stadium proposal incorporates both a 114-bedroom hotel and conference facilities along with a retail development project. There are also plans for the relocation of the club's training facilities from Boots & Laces to the new site, freeing up land on which retail plots can be developed to fund the relocation project and the club in the future.
Southend-on-Sea Borough Council passed the application at the end of January 2007, with Rochford District Council following suit just 24 hours later. The application was subsequently delivered to Ruth Kelly, Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, for state approval, a procedure that many hoped would be a mere formality and that Southend would be playing their first game in the new stadium early in the 2008/09 season. However, after a lengthy delay, Kelly "called in" the application for further review in early April 2007, a move that would not only considerably delay the project but might result in permission not being granted at all.
On 6 March 2008, after years of frustration for the Southend faithful, Fossetts Farm was given the green light by the Government. However by this time the economy had turned sour. The scheme is dependent on financing from the out of town retail development, and it is not known if or when this will become financially viable.
Recently the club announced that the development would be in two stages. The first stage would see the development of North, South and East stands of the ground. This would make the capacity 13,941. The last phase would be the construction of the 8,000 seater West stand, which would make the overall capacity 21,941. Sainsbury's are funding the first three stands of the stadium, but the last stand is being funded by the football club itself.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Fossetts-farm-stadium.jpg

didnt seem to have one that i could find so i made this thread

for people that don't know Southend-on-Sea is in the English county of Essex, 40 miles to the south east of London, has a population of 165,300 and Essex has a population of 1,737,900 as of 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southend-on-Sea


http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Fossetts+Farm+Stadium&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wl

This one has been dragging on for years now.
There is barely a mention in the local press these days. This is the latest article I could find in the local paper dated January 2012.
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/local_news/southend/9484724.Council_set_to_intervene_in_Blues____stadium_battle/

Ron Martin has promised so many start dates that nobody bothers any more.

The plans themsleves aren't too bad (as long as you dont mind a generic bowl) and the finished stadium, retail outlets etc should look pretty good, but yep..its another edge of town, retail park, souless, no pubs, nearest station 20 minutes walk type of scenario that we all know and 'love'.

Yer i know they had to reapply for planning permision. Its good they have decided to build it in two phases means its more likely to start soon, even though im spurs through and through i would love southend to be succesful and a regular championship club. Brighton should be a model for every lower league club.

I feel really sorry for the pubs etc around roots hall tthey could be in a lot of trouble when.they finally move

Yeah, I believe the Nelson is already shut down and only the Golden Lion ever seems to have any punters in it on non matchdays. There are 5 pubs around the ground who only ever seem to get anyone in on matchdays...doesnt bode well.

I can see this stadium getting started soon enough but whether they will ever get 4 sides done is open to speculation. Perhaps they will have a Bournemouth/Blackpool 2-3 sided ground for a number of years until any sort of success brings a completed upgrade.

Despite losing a lot of fans (like me :runaway:) each weekend to London clubs, Southend still have pretty decent gates at home and could easily get 12 -15k regularly if they ever got back into the championship.

Does anyone have a direct link to the planning application for this?

Yeah, I believe the Nelson is already shut down and only the Golden Lion ever seems to have any punters in it on non matchdays. There are 5 pubs around the ground who only ever seem to get anyone in on matchdays...doesnt bode well.

I can see this stadium getting started soon enough but whether they will ever get 4 sides done is open to speculation. Perhaps they will have a Bournemouth/Blackpool 2-3 sided ground for a number of years until any sort of success brings a completed upgrade.

Despite losing a lot of fans (like me :runaway:) each weekend to London clubs, Southend still have pretty decent gates at home and could easily get 12 -15k regularly if they ever got back into the championship.

yer tbh starting of at only 14 thousand is maybe best idea any way get a real core level of support back and then if they get into the championship maybe build the last stand. i have looked into going to a few games this season but its £22 for a league 2 ticket which IMO is far too much as i can got to see a Cat C game at the lane for around £32 quid. think if they were sensible with there pricing and tbh geared it torwards kids then in the championship they could attract low to mid 20's.

on the playing side it has always baffled me how poorly run southend have been, they never seem to get loanee players from the big london clubs even though they are 40 mins away, they always seem to bounce between the bottom 3 divisions, why a club in a "city" of Southends size in a quite large county doesnt become a self sustained championship club is beyond me. thats what you get with poor ownership i geuss

Does anyone have a direct link to the planning application for this?

i couldnt find one, doesnt mean it doesnt exist though dont really know that much on computers tbh

here you go RMB

http://www.southend.gov.uk/downloads/download/227/southend_united_football_club-new_stadium

I took a lot of interest in this stadium a few years back but like many I got sick of the constant delays and gave up. For the record I wouldnt class myself as a Southend fan, I supported Spurs long before I moved to the town. But like any new build I was as interested as the next geek and as Im now a local this one took on another dimension.......for a bit!

oops double post

Maidstone United's new stadium is well under way. Does seem a bit lame but then again they are playing in ryman div 1 and any stadium is better than having to travel to Sittingbourne to watch them. :)

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/2012/03/gallagher-stadium-gallery-27-march/

Rotherham's New Stadium

More aerial pics from Beaufighter:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3531/312as.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/213/312as.jpg/)

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9088/395ije.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/395ije.jpg/)

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/7432/266gb.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/266gb.jpg/)

http://footballgroundguide.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19259&view=findpost&p=341930

From 55peterf on YouTube:

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Credit to tauntongull for the pic:

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/606/img0075sa.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/img0075sa.jpg/)

http://torquayfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3648&start=120#p68225

A considerable upgrade from the stadium they use nowadays.

Rotherham's New Stadium

More aerial pics from Beaufighter:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3531/312as.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/213/312as.jpg/)

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9088/395ije.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/395ije.jpg/)

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/7432/266gb.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/266gb.jpg/)

http://footballgroundguide.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19259&view=findpost&p=341930

^^^ Good aerial pics^^^

This ones still bubbling over.

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/9648027.Boost_for_Blues_stadium__Prospects_College_site____sold_for___2m___/

You can judge the pervading mood of most people in the town about this stadium ever being built by the few readers comments at the end.

Thanks for the post topalex. Always good to have a back team if spurs keep on playing like this lol oh well im sure i have a whole life time of many disapointmemts, a few sucesses along the way, and a good few heart attacks too :-) god bless spurs

I hope this gets up and running maybe if they go up through the play offs this season it might get sped up

Maidstone United's new stadium is almost complete now. The 3g artificial pitch has been laid and when they play Brighton on 14 July it will be the first time in 24 years that Maidstone will be playing in the town.

Photos from Brendan Donnelly.

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jww291.jpg

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jww292.jpg

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jww293.jpg

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jww294.jpg

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jww295.jpg

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jww296.jpg

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jww297.jpg

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jww298.jpg

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jww299.jpg

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jww300.jpg

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/category/thegallagherstadium/

^^ Looks nice

what a pile of shit

Exciting times for Maidstone United, especially as they've been in exile for bloomin' ages. Great to see the new stadium nearing completion, so good luck to them in finally returning home. :)

I bet Chris Smalling is now well gutted he left Maidstone.

I bet Chris Smalling is now well gutted he left Maidstone.

A few months ago the Premier League World magazine show did a piece on Smalling and Maidstone. The Maidstone club director was basically saying he wanted to cry when he saw the fee Man United paid for Smalling after Maidstone had let him go for peanuts.

A few months ago the Premier League World magazine show did a piece on Smalling and Maidstone. The Maidstone club director was basically saying he wanted to cry when he saw the fee Man United paid for Smalling after Maidstone had let him go for peanuts.

Its a pity they never had a clause to get a percentage of his sell on fee.

Its a pity they never had a clause to get a percentage of his sell on fee.

If i remember rightly as he was playing for england schoolboys at the time he didn't have a professional contract at maidstone. Therefore no money was needed to be given to maidstone but fulham gave them £10,000 or so as a gesture.

Just found an article. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/sam-wallace-its-sad-that-maidstone-miss-out-on-share-of-16310m-smalling-windfall-1892299.html

New stand at Plainmoor update. :)

From northyorkshiregull on the Torquay United forum:

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4350/25672285.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/207/25672285.jpg/)

http://torquayfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3648&start=150#p72956

Is it right that Southampton plans to expand St. Mary's to a 50.000 capacity?

Is it right that Southampton plans to expand St. Mary's to a 50.000 capacity?

From Wikipedia:

All stands bar the Itchen stand can be built upon and expanded. This will be planned for construction should Southampton make a return to the Premier League. Overall this would give an approximate capacity of around 50,000, and would cost a similar amount to how much it cost to build the stadium in the first place, which was approximately £32,000,000

I guess they're going ahead with expansion now...? Anybody have any info on this?

50,000...??? What planet are they living on? Too many teams are building grounds that are simply too big for them. They're not as big as they think.

50,000...??? What planet are they living on? Too many teams are building grounds that are simply too big for them. They're not as big as they think.

Well though it's ambitious...it's not too out of the realm of possibility for it to succeed. Southampton basically share the county of Hampshire with Portsmouth, a total population of 1.7 million people to tap into. It's just far away enough from London to be it's own central hub of activity, though there are non-league teams present but if they are able to achieve a good sustained period back in the Premiership, and maybe some decent ticketing options, 50'000 isn't too ridiculous.

Think of it similar to the status in the North East. Newcastle and Sunderland essentially share the Tyne and Wear and County Durham areas and both have a core 50k or so following with stadiums that are appropriate, so it's not too out of the realm of possibility for Southampton to increase their stadium to something similar.

It's probably more that they have planning permission to do it should they become regulars in the Europa League (or even Champions League, hey, they can hope) and are challenging for cups on a regular basis. They probably won't do it anytime soon. I'd be shocked if they did anyway.

As modest as Maidstone's new stadium is, that's really big for them. They haven't always had it easy and hopefully this brings about an era of stability for them.

Rotherham's new stadium is solid! I wish we had one of those here.

Well though it's ambitious...it's not too out of the realm of possibility for it to succeed. Southampton basically share the county of Hampshire with Portsmouth, a total population of 1.7 million people to tap into. It's just far away enough from London to be it's own central hub of activity, though there are non-league teams present but if they are able to achieve a good sustained period back in the Premiership, and maybe some decent ticketing options, 50'000 isn't too ridiculous.

Think of it similar to the status in the North East. Newcastle and Sunderland essentially share the Tyne and Wear and County Durham areas and both have a core 50k or so following with stadiums that are appropriate, so it's not too out of the realm of possibility for Southampton to increase their stadium to something similar.

Newcastle and Sunderland have always had a far bigger following than Southampton and Portsmouth.

40K would be more than enough for Southampton for the foreseeable future. If they can establish themselves as a Premier League perennial and if they can consequently sell out 40K for a number of years, only then would it be time to consider expanding further.

I'm not saying that Southampton and Portsmouth are as big as Newcastle and Sunderland, just that their situations are quire similar and that if they do manage to achieve some sort of sustained success in the top division, maybe even European football, that they would be able to fill a 50k stadium. I admit as it stands now however, 50k would be a touch too high for Southampton.

From their (Southampton's) forum:

Nothing is going to happen until the end of next season. A year of consolidation before anything happens. There is also infrastructure challenges brought on by more fans that need to be addressed. Finally Nicola Cortese is looking at procuring other property around the ground to make it all easier.

Norwich are adding a temporary stand (800 seats), whilst their chief executive has confirmed that they've asked UEA to begin a feasibility study into replacing the City Stand (the small one).

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where is the temporary stand going to be ?

^^ Here:

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ah yes of course, forgot about the space there.. are there actually plans to replace the city stand then?