Throughout Islamic history, the work of calligraphers was collected and appreciated. Consideration of figurative art as idolatrous led to calligraphy and abstract figures becoming the main forms of artistic expression in Islamic cultures.

Arabic, Persian and Ottoman Turkish calligraphy is associated with geometric Islamic art (the Arabesque) on the walls and ceilings of mosques as well as on the page. Contemporary artists in the Islamic world draw on the heritage of calligraphy to use calligraphic inscriptions or abstractions in their work.

Modern Kuific style

http://29letters.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/kufi-ams-13.jpg

http://29letters.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/vernacular_kufi_05.jpg

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i think that's better to make Islamic calligraphy ^_^

^ Why? It's in Arabic.

Anyway, I think that it's beautiful.

Arabic, Persian and Ottoman Turkish calligraphy is associated with geometric Islamic art (the Arabesque) on the walls and ceilings of mosques as well as on the page.

Why do you mention Arabic, Persian and Ottoman Turkish Calligraphy, and disregard ur country's Amazigh Islamic Calligraphy :bash:





:lol:
:nuts:

Comedy indeed isn't for everyone...

Anyways, very pretty calligraphy indeed.

amazing!

amazing!

No it's amazigh

^^ :lol:

Arabic calligraphy is maybe the most beautiful calligraphy. 2nd is Chinese

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9733/sanstitresy0.png

* Arabic
* Azeri (Iran)
* Balochi
* Berber
* Fulani (on occasion)
* Hausa (on occasion)
* Kanuri (on occasion)
* Kashmiri
* Kazakh in China
* Kurdish (Iran and Iraq)
* Malagasy (until the 19th c.)
* Malay (14th - 17th c.)
* Mazanderani
* Ottoman Turkish
* Punjabi (Pakistan)
* Persian
* Pashtu
* Sindhi
* Sulu
* Swahili (on occasion)
* Tajik (on occasion)
* Urdu
* Uyghur

Many languages of Russia and Central Asia before replacement with Latin and later Cyrillic

* Bashkir
* Kazakh
* Kyrgyz
* Tatar
* Uzbek* in occasion Belarusian language

http://www.ethiotrans.com/images/Sample/arabic.gif

Kufi style from Irak

http://www.thrasherqawwal.com/Kufi01_1.gif

Nashki style from Morocco

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Fes_Medersa_Bou_Inania_Mosaique3_Calligraphy1.jpg/800px-Fes_Medersa_Bou_Inania_Mosaique3_Calligraphy1.jpg

Deewani style from Turkey

http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/arts/painting/islamic-paint/arabic-callig/classic-cursiv/deewani/d10.jpg

Riqa style from Egypt

http://www.firdaous.com/images/art_culture/riqa.jpg

Taliq style from Iran

http://www.firdaous.com/images/art_culture/taliq.png

Thuluth style from Arabia

http://arab-esque.cz/img/kaligrafie/Thuluth.jpg

Maghribi style from Morocco

http://cas.uchicago.edu/workshops/islamart/tile1.jpg

Mohaqq style from Arabia

http://www.firdaous.com/images/art_culture/mohaqqaq.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2140/2270608427_82923f9e55_b.jpg

http://www.yeniresim.com/data/media/272/www.yeniresim.com_-_Hat_Sanat_Resimleri-_Ay_Yldz.jpg

http://photos.linternaute.com/image_photo/550/bas-reliefs-mosquees-maroc-1564447284-620438.jpg

http://www.essential-architecture.com/STYLE/TajCalligraphy3.jpg

http://www.taj-mahal.net/common/MMImages/calligraphy1.jpg

http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/imageislam/Calligraphy.gif

xiaojing , special alphabet used by the Huis in China

http://www.chinaheritagequarterly.org/005/_pix/xiaojing.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9733/sanstitresy0.png



Arabic is an official language in Israel, why was it left gray?

center of Tel Aviv
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7359/4841028957a641fe547ha0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and it's illegal to use any other script other than latin in Turkey since 1923.The map is wrong.

and it's illegal to use any other script other than latin in Turkey since 1923.The map is wrong.

it's more better for turkey
ans yes the map is wrong why adding china india ... etc

hebrewtext look well Israel isn't green just Lebanon and you think that's Isr.
erci79 welcome back we miss you ^_^

signature of ottoman han Mahmud II

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/1051/tugramahmudsiioq6.gif

hebrewtext look well Israel isn't green just Lebanon and you think that's Isr.
erci79 welcome back we miss you ^_^


well, thats the problem Israel is gray, and suppose to be light green.

and it's illegal to use any other script other than latin in Turkey since 1923.The map is wrong.

in which language turks are pray?

in which language turks are pray?

zohar all muslims in world pray in arabic language

it's more better for turkey
ans yes the map is wrong why adding china india ... etc

China:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2479767055_6e567b2056_o.jpg

India:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/South_asia_local_lang.PNG

in which language turks are pray?

Turkish and Arabic

in which language turks are pray?

thread is about use of arabic script, and turks don't use it cos %99 can't understand arabic.
here's a turkish kuran

http://www.tulumba.com/mmTULUMBA/Images/bk/zBK982267BT672_250.jpg

in which language turks are pray?

The ritualistic parts are in Arabic (the parts most people don't understand the meaning of), the true prayers (where you actually pray and not perform ritualistic parts of the prayer) are in Turkish.

For example at a funeral I would say the Fatiha (a verse from the Quran usually used as a prayer at funerals) in Arabic but pray for that persons soul in Turkish using my own words.

It's like the Arabic calligraphy, the art is still carried out but only as a traditional art form, not as something with meaning.

thread is about use of arabic script, and turks don't use it cos %99 can't understand arabic.
here's a turkish kuran

http://www.tulumba.com/mmTULUMBA/Images/bk/zBK982267BT672_250.jpg


There is nothing called Turkish Qur'an, Qur'an is the word of God and it was revealed in Arabic, what you are talking about is a Turkish translation of Qurr'an.

You serious? All those years I've been living in a lie.Next you're gonna tell me that mohamad is an arab too? get out of here, it can't be

Now it's my turn to ask you, are you serious?

^^ Of course not, he is trying to say that "I know it's a translation, what else would it be!"

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9733/sanstitresy0.png

This map is more accurate IMO:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Arabic_alphabet_world_distribution.png

In Moritania and Sudan other scripts are official?

^^Yes. French is official in Mauritania and English in Sudan (hence the Latin alphabet).

^^ Of course not, he is trying to say that "I know it's a translation, what else would it be!"

It doesn't matter whether he knows it or not, but he used a wrong term (Turkish Qur'an). Actually its a misconception among many people that Qur'an is like the bible, can be translated to different languages and still be called Qur'an.

^^

What's wrong with Turkish Quran? It's a Quran and it's in Turkish :dunno:

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Anyhow, an interesting example of Ottoman Arabic Calligraphy:

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/957/farkli1gb1.jpg

By the way India is in light green because Muslims in India speak and write in the language Urdu. Which is official along with other languages in quite a few provinces.

^^

What's wrong with Turkish Quran? It's a Quran and it's in Turkish :dunno:



A translation of the Holy Quran from Arabic to another language is just that a Translation but not the Quran itself. The Quran has to be read/understood/intrepret in the Arabic language because certain words/sentences in the Holy Quran have dual meanings which can only be understood through its original language - Arabic.

That's what i've been told. And I agree with them, even though I don't understand Arabic myself.

^^


http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/957/farkli1gb1.jpg


Always loved Ottoman signatures, I heard many businessman in the Gulf model their signatures after Ottoman one's because its just so beautiful.

Always loved Ottoman signatures, I heard many businessman in the Gulf model their signatures after Ottoman one's because its just so beautiful.

Here's one of Süleyman the Magnificent, I don't know what it's called in English but in Turkish it's called a Tuğra (something like a signiture)

http://www.kaliteliresimler.com/data/media/1594/Kanuni.jpg

A translation of the Holy Quran from Arabic to another language is just that a Translation but not the Quran itself. The Quran has to be read/understood/intrepret in the Arabic language because certain words/sentences in the Holy Quran have dual meanings which can only be understood through its original language - Arabic.

That's what i've been told by Arab/Non-Arab Muslims and the like. And I agree with them, even though I don't understand Arabic myself.

I know, but I don't get why some people are acting over sensitive over a name, when someone says Turkish Quran obviously they are implying a Turkish translation of the Quran.

some mentality, of course only in middle east or by arabs to be precise.I should inform my german friend that his german bible is invalid and we should all give credit to jews for the first bible written in hebrew.

^The first Bible was written in ancient Aramaic and Greek! please cut the religious debate guys! :)


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Anyhow, an interesting example of Ottoman Arabic Calligraphy:

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/957/farkli1gb1.jpg

That is awesome! I would pay money for that and hang it on my wall, stare at it all day!

It's the cross section from a tree that does it for me :yes:

Hajji Sinan's Tekke in Sarajevo.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5561/p6280008jj0.jpg

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why with Magen David?:nuts:

Hajji Sinan's Tekke in Sarajevo.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5561/p6280008jj0.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7403/p6280010ns4.jpg

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why with Magen David?:nuts:


I've heard it's called "Sulejmanov pecat" or "Solomon's seal". It says: There is no god but God, and Muhammad is his prophet.

Btw. I too find it odd. Here is the bigger version, the one I already posted is much smaller and probably used as a trial model for this one:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5576/sulejmanovmuhurhsinanovem5.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2324/p6280013bp8.jpg

Btw. for Arabic speakers: if you notice something strange, please report. :D Thanx.

absolutely gorgeous! thank you zmey !

why with Magen David?:nuts:

Actually the Muslims never had anything against the Magen David.
In Andalusia Muslims encouraged the Jews to adopt the Magen David as their symbol over the Menorah. Which did happen atleast in Muslim Spain and some can argue its influence is strong to this day with it being in the Israeli flag.

You'll find all sorts of geometrical shapes along with Magen David in many islamic architecture in the world over. I've seen them in a lot of places even in countries like Saudi Arabia.

Muslims might not like the Magen David today because it symbolizes Zionism, but historically they have been quite warm towards it. It probably symbolizes the seal of one of the biblical prophets that Muslims believe in as well?

Here's one of Süleyman the Magnificent, I don't know what it's called in English but in Turkish it's called a Tuğra (something like a signiture)

http://www.kaliteliresimler.com/data/media/1594/Kanuni.jpg

There must be many of these "Tugra's" of Sulieman all over Istanbul. The greatest Sultan the world has ever known must have left quite the mark.

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why with Magen David?:nuts:

It's actually an ancient Turkish symbol too. Many Turkish buildings have it. Even the masterpiece of Sinan, Selimiye mosque has them on its doors. If you remember I posted some of historical flags of Turkish principalities in Israeli forum;)

Solomon's Seal has always been used in Morocco:

http://rami.tv/fr/alaouites/drapeau/dvdmaroc.jpg

http://www.telquel-online.com/262/images/image5_maroc_262.jpg

Moroccan money in the 19th centery

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3035/piecessf3.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/500/dvdmarocde1.jpg

Almoravid Koubba | Marrakesh

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The Quran has to be read/understood/intrepret in the Arabic language because certain words/sentences in the Holy Quran have dual meanings which can only be understood through its original language - Arabic.

That is the main problem with translations of the Bible...

^The first Bible was written in ancient Aramaic and please cut the religious debate guys! :)

The New Testament was originally in Aramaic, the Old Testament was written in Hebrew. And yes let's cut the religious debate. :)

why with Magen David?:nuts:

It's not like us Jews have copyright over this symbol. :sly: Geometric shapes are quite common in Islamic art.

Keep posting pics, people! I like Arabic calligraphy :yes:

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That is awesome! I would pay money for that and hang it on my wall, stare at it all day!

It's the cross section from a tree that does it for me :yes:

There are also examples of caligraphy written on leaves, for example:

http://img257.echo.cx/img257/1074/29es.jpg

I think you can find replicas of such things in shops in Istanbul which specialise in such items, next time I go to Istanbul if I find a replica of the one written on the tree I'm gonna buy it :)

It's not like us Jews have copyright over this symbol. :sly: Geometric shapes are quite common in Islamic art.



yeah but its a jewish symbol:D

There must be many of these "Tugra's" of Sulieman all over Istanbul. The greatest Sultan the world has ever known must have left quite the mark.

Yes, it's one of the most recognisable Ottoman symbols in Turkey.

Actually the Muslims never had anything against the Magen David.
In Andalusia Muslims encouraged the Jews to adopt the Magen David as their symbol over the Menorah. Which did happen atleast in Muslim Spain and some can argue its influence is strong to this day with it being in the Israeli flag.

You'll find all sorts of geometrical shapes along with Magen David in many islamic architecture in the world over. I've seen them in a lot of places even in countries like Saudi Arabia.

Muslims might not like the Magen David today because it symbolizes Zionism, but historically they have been quite warm towards it. It probably symbolizes the seal of one of the biblical prophets that Muslims believe in as well?

:yes:

It's known as the Seal of Solomon and was very popular amongst the Seljuks and Ottomans as well as other Turkish Muslim states.

Here's the flag of the Admiral of the Ottoman fleet, Barbarossa:

http://korsan.uskudar.biz/resimler/barbaros_sancak_gercek.jpg

currently it is displayed at the Istanbul maritime museum.

yeah but its a jewish symbol:D

A Seljuk Muslim tombstone ;)

http://bp1.blogger.com/_zoA-ZomYOKQ/R_3HLer1iOI/AAAAAAAAFj4/ykWExiLB-Q0/s400/Ahlat-seljuk.jpg

Photo of a Moslem Solomon Seal from Ahlat in East Turkey is courtesy of Yossy Stepansky. It appears on a Seljuk tombstone from the middle ages.

Copyrights: Yossy Stepansky 2008

From:


wikipedia /Ahlat


Ahlat is a historic town and a district in Turkey's Bitlis Province in Eastern Anatolia Region. The center town of Ahlat is situated on the northwestern coast of the Lake Van. Ahlat and its surroundings are known for the large number of historic tombstones left by the Ahlatshah dynasty.

From:


wikipedia /Ahlatshahs


Ahlahshahs were the 11th-12th century rulers of an Anatolian Turkish Beylik of the first period founded after the Battle of Manzikert, and centered in Ahlat on the northwestern shore of the Lake Van in Eastern Anatolia. The dynasty is sometimes also called Sökmenli in reference to the founder of the principality, Sokmen el Kutbi, literally Sokmen the Slave, one of the commanders of the Great Seljuk Alp Arslan.


source (http://star-of-david.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html#1103576685730893457)

some mentality, of course only in middle east or by arabs to be precise.

What is that supposed to mean? :bash:

I should inform my german friend that his german bible is invalid and we should all give credit to jews for the first bible written in hebrew.

Are you trying to say that Christians and Jews DO NOT give credit to the first bible written in Hebrew? :nuts:

I don't know know why Bangladesh is excluded. Most Bangladeshis can read Arabic.

thread is about use of arabic script, and turks don't use it cos %99 can't understand arabic.
here's a turkish kuran

http://www.tulumba.com/mmTULUMBA/Images/bk/zBK982267BT672_250.jpg

I have seen Arabic Quran with Turkish translation and tafsir.

I don't know know why Bangladesh is excluded. Most Bangladeshis can read Arabic.
.


Interesting, you mean the arabic language or only the alphabet?

the picture of the flag I posted before has for some reason become :redx:

here it is again:

http://www.sunusi.com/images/sancak.JPG

Interesting, you mean the arabic language or only the alphabet?

Native Banglsdeshi language is called Bengali. Written Bengali looks like this:

http://www.omicronlab.com/avrokeyboard/bangla-fonts/bangla.gif

85% of 154 million Bangladeshis are Muslim. We put much emphasis on learning to read Quran and pray in Arabic and understand them from translations and tafsirs. Arabic plays a very important role in our country.

Look underneath the clock of Dhaka municipality building:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/297494331_3543212239.jpg

Native Banglsdeshi language is called Bengali. Written Bengali looks like this:

http://www.omicronlab.com/avrokeyboard/bangla-fonts/bangla.gif

85% of 154 million Bangladeshis are Muslim. We put much emphasis on learning to read Quran and pray in Arabic and understand them from translations and tafsirs. Arabic plays a very important role in our country.

Look underneath the clock of Dhaka municipality building:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/297494331_3543212239.jpg

What's the percentage of Bangladeshis who know Arabic? do you learn Arabic in schools?

^^Very few people can really speak or understand Arabic. Almost anybody who has passed 10th grade (matriculation), has learnt how to read and write Arabic. Matriculation syllabus includes reading and knowing the meaning of 10 surah and 20 hadith. So, yes Arabic is taught in schools. Non-Muslims are exempted from this subject. Actually we have some very good qaris too. As a matter of fact I am going to an adult class to learn to read Arabic with tajwid.

Excellent thread if u ask me ... thanks alot for all this Redalinho :)

Calligraphy from the Bursa center for Calligraphy (using latin script) in the making:

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Fez, Morocco. Tilework and Calligraphy in Archway over a Public Fountain

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Calligraphy at Medersa Ben Youssef Marrakesh Morocco

http://www.**********/thumbs/6/%7B6D1BC1F4-8F99-430B-AF26-8C3C2E6A2425%7D/A0XYPR.jpg

Elegant calligraphy of the Koran script in Fes Morocco

http://www.**********/thumbs/6/%7BE38FE4FA-7327-459A-BFA3-553C475312F3%7D/AJ865C.jpg

Traditional Arabic Koranic Calligraphy on Mosque Walls, Morocco

http://www.**********/thumbs/6/%7BF42FDF83-D527-44D0-82A4-308089F12F4B%7D/APAA93.jpg

Details of intricate plasterwork in Bou Inania Medersa Meknès Morocco

http://www.**********/thumbs/6/%7B869C74FB-26E3-4F49-8EF2-186A2AA1F773%7D/AP1NG2.jpg

Fez, Morocco. Calligraphy and Stucco Work, Bou Inania Medersa, 14th Century

http://www.**********/thumbs/6/%7B06216358-FA38-42F7-B6B1-6B83BEF8FBBC%7D/ACE5WC.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/7/7472957_3b91568f8c.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/120/274537189_39350a387a.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/99/266355456_ff79a8c667.jpg

I am willing to do anything to be able to write/draw arabic that beautifully.

Spectacular