"Zlote tarasy" construction update (WARSAW)

Photos by @R:type: (1 IX 2003)



http://www.hexlabs.com/p/ZloteTarasyBudowa1.jpg http://www.hexlabs.com/p/ZloteTarasyBudowa2.jpg

And this is how it's going to look like (if someone still don't know):

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/zt06.jpg

Well, I didn't know! That's a good looking building. What's its purpose? Offices?

Under the biggest glass dome in Europe there will be big shoping center with cafes and restaurants. There will be also big cinema and offices. The talles building will be office building or hotel.

Some more visualisations :)


http://www.ayres42.com/portfolio/zlote/zlote03big.jpg

Damn :rant: "Zlote Tarasy" website is not working... I'm sorry, you won't see those visualisations :mad:

I don't think that this building fits next to Palace Of Culture And Sciense :(

The glass roof is great, who was the designer?

IMO it's too low as for the city center. It's being built on the place which is the most centrally located in Warsaw (and was empty)

Impressive project, that glass dome idea is fantastic! And how tall the tower is gonna be?

Originally posted by John

Impressive project, that glass dome idea is fantastic! And how tall the tower is gonna be?

105 meters / 344 feet

Actually I would like to see there a higher tower but it's not that bad after all.

105m is indeed not that bad ;), I thought it's like 85-90m after counting floors on the rendering.

but 150 would be perfeckt :)

http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image3.jpg

Originally posted by Kommentare

I don't think that this building fits next to Palace Of Culture And Sciense :(

Well, I don't know... it is indeed an interesting contrast compared to the design of the Palace of Culture and Science. I think it could work out well... but we'll see in a couple of years.

There are many threads about this city but I would like an overview off ALL construction in the recent past , the planned & approved and future plans for this city !

Who would like to start ? :)

Well, I guess I'll do current constructions 70 metres and up.

Starting off with Centrum Zelazna, 79 metres, the low part of the complex is almost finished, tower hasnt started rising yet. Rendering by PetKO.

http://www.warsaw3d.com/zel2-web.jpg

In the background you can see:

Hilton Hotel, 91 metres, Hotel under construction, 2x residential and 1x office tower will start later. Rendering by Petko. Note, picture used for rendering is old, so there are curently standing buildings which are missing from it(Hilton the one in the foreground)

http://www.warsaw3d.com/grzy-montage2-real.jpg

Recent construction photo. (In the background, you can see a small part of Lucka city construction.

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/hotel_hilton_01.jpg

Then we have the Belvedere Centrum, its currently a hole in the ground, but were not sure if the hole is for the tower itself, or for a multilevel parking lot right next to it. Its also around the 90 metre mark.

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/b6.jpg

Next we have the Zlote Tarasy Complex, at somewhere around 100 metres. It has just begun to rise.

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/zt06.jpg

Costruction a few weeks ago:

http://www.hexlabs.com/p/ZloteTarasyBudowa1.jpg

Then we have Lucka city at 106 metres, I think it has reached full height. As you can see, photo taken from the same spot as the Hilton rendering.

http://www1.gazeta.pl/im/1636/z1636302G.jpg

Photo from the WFC of the Rondo 1 construction site, but it provides a good view of Lucka.

http://www.starawarszawa.neostrada.pl/rondo3.jpg

And then at 192m with antenna we have the Rondo 1, currently still a hole in the ground
;)

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/rondo01.jpg
http://www.warsaw3d.com/Rondo-View4-RenderOK.jpg

Construction:

View from WFC:
http://www.starawarszawa.neostrada.pl/rondo2.jpg

View form across the street:

http://wawka.republika.pl/waw25.jpg

Hopefully somebody else will do proposals (although there arent many right now) and recently finished buildings.

Some photos from groundy.prv.pl, originally posted on the Polish forum by Misiek:


http://www.autolider.pl/warszawa/Zdjecia/centrum38.jpg

http://www.autolider.pl/warszawa/Zdjecia/centrum36.jpg

http://www.autolider.pl/warszawa/Zdjecia/centrum39.jpg

http://www.autolider.pl/warszawa/Zdjecia/panorama14.jpg

And these taken by Antares:

http://www.tommpl.privat.t-online.de/w02.jpg

http://www.tommpl.privat.t-online.de/w03.jpg

http://www.tommpl.privat.t-online.de/w05.jpg

http://www.tommpl.privat.t-online.de/w10.jpg

Some more:

Arkadia - huge shopping center:

http://wawka.republika.pl/ar1.jpg

http://wawka.republika.pl/ar2.jpg

http://wawka.republika.pl/ar3.jpg

Construction site (old photo :( )

http://www1.gazeta.pl/im/1419/z1419728G.jpg

New Metro station - Dworzec Gdanski:

http://www2.gazeta.pl/im/1453/z1453933G.jpg

Construction site (you can see Arkadia c. site in the background on the first photo ;) )

http://www.metro.projectcom.pl/grafika/mvc-637f.jpg


http://www.metro.projectcom.pl/grafika/mvc-634f.jpg

http://www.metro.projectcom.pl/grafika/mvc-640f.jpg

New Warsaw Frederic Chopin International Airport Terminal 2

http://nationframe.com/waw/news/okecie01.jpg

http://nationframe.com/waw/news/okecie02.jpg

Arkadia mall coinstruction:

http://nationframe.com/waw/news/arkadia01.jpg

http://nationframe.com/waw/news/arkadia02.jpg

http://nationframe.com/waw/news/arkadia03.jpg

New Business street (western part of Aleje Jerozolimskie):

It, s only one street - there is no all infrastructure yet.
Ten years ago there was only "cabbagefields" :)

(All pictures taken by forumer Cudak)


Daimler-Benz,s head office building:
http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0007.jpg

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0032.jpg

"any" officebuilding:
http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0045.jpg

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0034.jpg

and another one:
http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0030.jpg

Copernicus Office Center:
http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0028.jpg

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0033.jpg

What's this???? :)
http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0035.jpg

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0027.jpg

And this??? :)
http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0038.jpg

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0037.jpg

Heidelberg's Offices:
http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0046.jpg

One Panorama:

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Zachodnie/zach0039.jpg

Others biuldings (only at Webshots - sorry !)

Ericsson:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93097025qxtQkE

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/79091646gPrcsM

Millenium Bank:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93097151VNlOhN

Jerozolimskie Business Park:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93097338OwUgQz

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93097944EVxGxi

Shopping Centre "Reduta"

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93098282bfkDiK

Blue City - new "Funcentre"

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/92382610aGbzci

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/92380713FGYumq

Basf:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93098517ZRyTnj

Large complex "Ochota Office Park":

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93099237grWCaU

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93099077oWCPst

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93099429yccBYr

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93100014ZXTPLi

Agfa&Bayer

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93100242ScimRA

Warsaw Business Technology Park:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93100533aaduBR

http://community.webshots.com/photo/93096806/93100639WtqTUU

It,s not all - to be contynued :)

http://www.muratorplus.pl/images/kliwer1_new.pop.jpg

http://www.muratorplus.pl/images/kliwer2_new.pop.jpg

http://www1.gazeta.pl/im/1709/z1709308G.jpg

http://www.liebrecht-wood.com/images/Jerolzolimskie3.gif

http://www.tulipanhouse.colliers.pl/img/domaniewska_fronton.jpg

http://www.tulipanhouse.colliers.pl/img/dom50_4.jpg

more comming soon...

Some buildings from years 1990-2000:

(ALL photos by Yaros from stunning page www.nowawa.pl)

Avon:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_avon_04n.jpg

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_avon_03n.jpg

Handlowy Bank:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_bankhandlowypolczynska_01n.jpg

Bankowy Fundusz Gwarancyjny:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_bankfundgwar_02n.jpg

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_bankfundgwar_08n.jpg

Agriculture Bank:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_bgz_04n.jpg

Blue Point:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_bluepoint_stzjedn_05n.jpg

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_bluepoint_stzjedn_08n.jpg

Bokserska Office:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_bokserskaofficecenter_03n.jpg

BTE Office:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_bonartuke_01n.jpg

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_bonartuke_02n.jpg

Metro Office:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Miniaturki/am_btcmetro_02.jpg

Financial Centre:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_gielda_03n.jpg

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_gielda_05n.jpg

Centrum Millenium:

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_millenium_kijowska_01.jpg

City Gate:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_hotelibissolidarnisci_03n.jpg

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_hotelibissolidarnisci_12.jpg

CPN Centrale:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_cpnpankiewicza_01n.jpg

anothers:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_gtc_biura_04n.jpg

Holland Park:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_hollandpark_02n.jpg

Sheraton Hotel:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_hotelsheraton_03n.jpg

IPC Ofiice:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_ipc_03n.jpg

Kredit Bank:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_kredytbankkasprzaka_03n.jpg

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_kredytbankkasprzaka_04n.jpg

Kolmex:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_kolmex_01n.jpg

Nautylius:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_nautylius_01n.jpg

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_nautylius_06n.jpg

Norway house:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_norwayhouse_01n.jpg

Optimus house:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_optimustower_03n.jpg

PBK Bank:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_pbktowarowa_03n.jpg

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_pbktowarowa_01.jpg

PKO Bank
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_pekaogieldowa_01n.jpg

Pfizer Office:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_pfizer_05n.jpg

"office"
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_postepu5_04n.jpg

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_postepu5_02n.jpg

Reifeissen Bank:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_raiffeisenbc_06n.jpg

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_raiffeisenbc_08n.jpg

Renessaince Plaza:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_renaissanceplaza_03n.jpg

Renessaince Tower:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_renaissance_07n.jpg

Renault:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_renault_01n.jpg

Roma center:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_romacenter_03n.jpg

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_romacenter_02n.jpg

SuperExpress:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/as_superexpres_01y.jpg

Stratos:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_stratos_04n.jpg

Tajfun:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/ar_tajfun_03n.jpg

Telbank:
http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/Duze/as_telbank_03y.jpg


Ufff.... Pass! to be continued.... :hammer: ..... later :)

http://www.nationframe.com/waw/21.jpg

http://www.nationframe.com/waw/22.jpg

http://www.nationframe.com/waw/28.jpg

http://www.nationframe.com/waw/96.jpg

http://www.nationframe.com/waw/97.jpg

http://nationframe.com/waw/cu1.jpg

http://nationframe.com/waw/cu2.jpg

http://nationframe.com/waw/cu3.jpg

http://nationframe.com/waw/cu4.jpg

http://nationframe.com/waw/cu5.jpg

http://nationframe.com/waw/cu6.jpg

http://nationframe.com/waw/cu7.jpg

http://nationframe.com/waw/cu8.jpg

Nice pics :cool: .

Warsaw is amazing. I like this town :)

Any visions or cancelled projects ??

Originally posted by De Snor

Any visions or cancelled projects ??
No problem :D
Here they are:

Polkat: (its future is unknown, but probably won't be built)

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/polkat01.jpg http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/polkat03.jpg

Europrojekt Prosta (canceled)

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/prosta.jpg

Rotunda PKO (proposed)

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/w11.jpg

European Trade Tower (canceled - that would be Warsaw tallest...)

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/etc01.jpg

Centrum Bis (proposed)

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/bis.jpg

Centrum Zachód (proposed)

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/bc1.jpg

Jerozolimskie 107 (vision)

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/w6.jpg

Port Praski (some kind of Warsaw's Canary Wharf - now it's only vision...)

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/pp3.jpg http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/pp4.jpg

Nice, nice stuff! Keep it up Warsaw, let's get some more height happening there now! (250+m).

But doing well guys!

Latest photos from the construction site taken by @ryjek:



http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=113715&quality=50&identifier=65b32b5d04&maxpixel http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=113739&quality=50&identifier=1a6701e550&maxpixel

Cool! :banana:

Its a contrast old vs new, credit to the progress we've made in the last 13 years.

Anyone hear about Poland dressing up the Palace of Culture with Golden sheets (or something) when its joins the EU?

From what I remember the PKiN was supposed to be wrapped in bubble wrap or something. Frankly, instead of spending that money on bubble wrap, the city could hurry itself up and usher in a plan for the redevelopment of Plac Defilad. A new name would be nice too... defilad, or parade, is so.... inapproriate.

Havent you been reading the Polish forum lately? The new plan was presented 2 days ago, there are t least 15 pages on the topic :D

My spoken Polish is good, but written Polish is not shall we say strong. I can't really read the posts on the Plac Defilad, can someone please summarize what is happening with the design, and if that wierd design with all the low buildings is the final design or if its just one proposal out of several.

By the way, hey, Im new to this fourm.
I live in London Ontario Canada but I was born in Boleslawiec Poland. :)

Originally posted by Piotr

Havent you been reading the Polish forum lately? The new plan was presented 2 days ago, there are t least 15 pages on the topic :D

No I haven't, I guess I should mosey on over!

Some more interesting photos:

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=115885&quality=100&identifier=d7a9618bca&maxpixel http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=115884&quality=100&identifier=189c12176b&maxpixel=850 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=115883&quality=100&identifier=efe84a0b20&maxpixel=850 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=115882&quality=100&identifier=928d17c424&maxpixel=850 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=115881&quality=100&identifier=788a80b9a7&maxpixel=850

these photos are amazing !!!!!!!

Lates urban plan for Warsaw city center around the Palace of Culture.

Some people like it, some people don't...

http://www.rzeczpospolita.pl/teksty/wydanie_031113/kraj_a_1-1.F.jpg http://popularworld.republika.pl/plac-back.jpg

And here's latest plan proposal for al. Jerozolimskie with new planed skyscrapers :)

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/pl_zawiszy.JPG http://www1.gazeta.pl/im/1760/z1760896G.jpg

Is there a figure on how much this project will cost? Also, I learned in the Poish forum that there is more then one designer (companies) competing, if so why is this the only design we keep on seeing? I truely hope to God this isn't the last design, I don't like it one bit.

Wow! Cool!

When is the completion date of this project?

Its suppose to be the largest dome incapsulated area in Europe right?

Originally posted by wholagun

Is there a figure on how much this project will cost? Also, I learned in the Poish forum that there is more then one designer (companies) competing, if so why is this the only design we keep on seeing? I truely hope to God this isn't the last design, I don't like it one bit.

I think i will have to dissapoint you. Suposedly this is the last plan for the area around PKiN. The guy whos in charge of the developments in the city ( main Architect or whatever u call him) is not a very big fan of skyscrapers.

Originally posted by wholagun

When is the completion date of this project?

Its suppose to be the largest dome incapsulated area in Europe right?

Should be finished In 2005.

I don't have enough information about the domes in Europe :dunno: - and website of the project is not working... :mad:

This is very interesting proposal:



http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/yaros/Zdjecia/strabag_srebrna_01.jpg


And this project is amazing but rather have poor chances to be realized (but who knows?)

http://startbilder.cfasp.de/einzelbild.php?id=106670&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=41018f0dcc http://startbilder.cfasp.de/einzelbild.php?id=106671&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=0e21953c66 http://startbilder.cfasp.de/einzelbild.php?id=106673&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=2f5095631c

Design is interesting, Im not head over heels for it but I can live with it, one positive thing is the height, very please to see height.

Why is it so far from the city center....>( Lets begin building one big cluster like Frankfurt or London.

If the Tower of European Unity was built, and this new tower was built next to it then it would look good, but by itself looks wired, but I ain't complaining, its big..

Nice stuff all of it, I like the rounded design of the Srebna building.

But Warsaw needs more height, unlike a lot of other Europeans capitals Warsaw can afford to build higher since, as we all know, the goosesteppers levelled the place in WWII and there isn't that much historic architecture to protect by 'not building high'. This main architect dude should get shut up, ergo, fire him.

I think Warsaw is rare in it's stance as a European city that can develop a fully modern US style skyline because of this, so go for it guys! It's not like you don't have room!

Originally posted by SoboleuS

Damn :rant: "Zlote Tarasy" website is not working... I'm sorry, you won't see those visualisations :mad:

Now everything is OK :okay:

http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image5.jpg http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image6.jpg http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image11.jpg http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image15.jpg http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image4.jpg http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image12.jpg http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image7.jpg http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image8.jpg

Ok, Iv been hearing lately about this chief arictect and how he doesn't like tall buildings. Who is he, and how long has he been ont he job, and how long will he remain on the job?

OMG! It almost looks like ground zero area in NY...

He is Polish architect who were living for many years in Stocholm.

Another great photo by @cudak :master: :master: :master:

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/PICT0707.JPG

Sth more about New Warsaw Frederic Chopin International Airport Terminal 2:

http://poczta.pnet.pl/~zkp/21aa.jpg

"Miasteczko Wilanow":

There has never been an integreated development on such a scale in Europe. Plans cover over 170 hectares of land - a new community for sth like 20.000 of people. The whole thing will cost over 1 BILLION EURO. It's being done by a Polish company - Prokom Investments.

For the architecture of the whole investment is responsible Guy C. Perry.

Some parts of the development are already under construction. It will take 8-10 years to finish all.

The Miasteczko Wilanow plan

http://www.miasteczko-wilanow.pl/images/makieta.jpg

Centrum (the Center)

http://www.miasteczko-wilanow.pl/images/plac_krolewski.jpg http://www.miasteczko-wilanow.pl/galeria/centrum/1.jpg http://www.miasteczko-wilanow.pl/galeria/centrum/2.jpg http://www.miasteczko-wilanow.pl/galeria/centrum/4.jpg http://www.miasteczko-wilanow.pl/galeria/centrum/5.jpg http://www.miasteczko-wilanow.pl/galeria/centrum/6.jpg

Nearby there is consruction of a mega church called Holy God's Providence - one of the largest in Europe:

http://www.swiatynia.pl/images/wizualizacja_noc01.jpg http://www.swiatynia.pl/images/wizualizacja_wnetrze.jpg http://www.swiatynia.pl/images/koncepcja_zagosp.jpg http://www.swiatynia.pl/images/photo4d.jpg http://www.swiatynia.pl/images/photo9d.jpg http://www.swiatynia.pl/images/aktualne01.jpg

Originally posted by wholagun

Ok, Iv been hearing lately about this chief arictect and how he doesn't like tall buildings. Who is he, and how long has he been ont he job, and how long will he remain on the job?

Here he is \/ :D

http://www.architektura-murator.pl/images/BorowskMichal11_03.jpg

He's Michal Borowski - like Docent said he was living and working is Stockholm - he will probably remain on the job as long as Kaczynski will be president of Warsaw (about 3 years...). But Kaczynski is very controversial and maybe he will be dismissed, who knows... ;)

Living in Canada away from Poland I have noticed that the country is run by old conservative chumps.. I hate it, can't wait tilkl the new generation begin taking over especially in the Sejm.

The new chruch is not that good looking, very communistic looking, hard to explain, just something about it looks really odd.

The Wilanow place looks great, but why build 1billion dollar invest in such as small town? I know its near Warsaw, but why not build it in Warsaw itself?

Originally posted by wholagun

The Wilanow place looks great, but why build 1billion dollar invest in such as small town? I know its near Warsaw, but why not build it in Warsaw itself?
Wilanow is now a part of Warsaw ;) - one of 18 districts. And this is the best place for such investment because of big area of free land.

[QUOTE][SIZE=1]Originally posted by DocentX




http://startbilder.cfasp.de/einzelbild.php?id=106671&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=0e21953c66

I love this , like a blue curtain wrapped around a concrete base with a beacon on top !
Stunning piece of design :okay:

how can anyone like that design, that p.o.s belongs in some sci-fi movie. If they would get rid of the stupid triangle antennna, those yellow balls and make it jsut a one or two colored facade it would be fine. Now it just looks like a freakign rainbow.

Great thread, keep on posting

Interesting church...i've seen something similar in Kazakhstan.

Rondo 1, update:

http://www.rondo1.pl/siteview/siteview_1.jpg

http://www.rondo1.pl/siteview/siteview_3.jpg

Pics of some new designs in Warsaw (all photos by Arek - and his telephone :D )

Hotels near Towarowa Street:

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/Towarowa/0004.jpg

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/Towarowa/0005.jpg

Articom Center:

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/4.01.2004/0007.jpg

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/4.01.2004/0010.jpg

Crown Point:

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/crw4.jpg

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/crw1.jpg

Centrum Jasna:

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/jas4.jpg

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/jas6.jpg

Hotel Ibis:

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/mur2.jpg

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/mur1.jpg

Has Zloty Tarasy left the ground yet ?

Originally posted by De Snor

Has Zloty Tarasy left the ground yet ?
In some areas, but generally it's still "underground" ;)

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/zt30.JPG

hotel 'Novotel' 2004
http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Wwa/forum02.jpg

Originally posted by pawelloo

hotel 'Novotel' 2004


This:

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Wwa/forum01.jpg

Will change into this:

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Wwa/forum02.jpg

:banana::carrot::cucumber::pepper::banana2::dooby::cheers:

are you sure it will happen ?

and when ?

Originally posted by markus1234

are you sure it will happen ?

and when ?
In this year (probably in summer) - read the thread about Hotel Forum on Polish forum ;)

but the old building isn't so bad at all !

Originally posted by lux

but the old building isn't so bad at all !
People in Warsaw don't like it - it looks old and its facade is in bad condition. After renovation it will be much better :cool:

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/zt30.JPG

Rondo City project (construction should start this year):

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/rc01.jpg http://www.julian-jakob.de/wwa/rondo1.jpg

BLUE CITY (new gigantic schoping center)- almost completed:

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Budowy/PICT0210.JPG http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Budowy/PICT0212.JPG

wow, blue city is huge !!
In what part of Warsaw is it?

Originally posted by Mikael

wow, blue city is huge !!
In what part of Warsaw is it?
It's in Ochota district (South-West Warsaw) near Aleje Jerozolimskie (4 km from City center)

Old aerial (when this building was named Reform Center)

http://www.gorpol.krakow.pl/miasta/wawa/04/a-kl18.jpg

And this is extremly important info for me: "Srodmiescie" and "Gdanski" train stations are going to be renovated :cheers:

And I cross my fingers for "Warszawa Centralna" train station, "Warszawa Zachodnia" train station and "Warszawa Wschodnia" train station- I hope they will also change for better in the next few years :cool:



"Srodmiescie" train station now (very dirty :puke: )

http://www.render.waw.pl/image.php?id=104443151eeaec748deebd9b1aafec16

and how it will look like after renovation:

http://www.render.waw.pl/image.php?id=eb035d7a151e1597aee72016bfb80b40 http://www.render.waw.pl/image.php?id=3fde344806568b1a46133162927baa41 http://www.render.waw.pl/image.php?id=1ecb1eba703564797bd19e4734fd8e2a http://www.render.waw.pl/image.php?id=6f54625243f03b2d7edb5a3498987eea


"Gdanski" train station after renovation (it's located next to the new Metro station):


http://www.render.waw.pl/image.php?id=2fd80bda2eaf33f8f3952441bc9ab70b http://www.render.waw.pl/image.php?id=2db23d8910dc53e9793094fa71499989 http://www.render.waw.pl/image.php?id=1aa2efaf833cc56700167a339b914fd6

hmmm, look at the girl on the left :D :spam1:

http://www.render.waw.pl/image.php?id=2fd80bda2eaf33f8f3952441bc9ab70b

btw: are these projekts confirmed, or just projekts?

@Earendil- You should know that with PKP (Polish Railways) everything is posible so nothing is 100% sure but.... I cross my fingers!


OK- and now sth very interesting- MUSEUM of WARSAW UPRISING

It will be the most modern museum in Poland (will be opened in 60 anniversory of the uprising on the 1 of august 2004)

http://www1.gazeta.pl/im/1753/z1753769G.jpg http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/1803/z1803373G.jpg http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/1803/z1803371G.jpg

Are there High Spêed Lines in Poland to connect Warsaw with Berlin or Prague ?

Yeah, the trains in Warszawa Gdanska Station look a bit like TGV.

Originally posted by SoboleuS

This:

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Wwa/forum01.jpg

Will change into this:

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Wwa/forum02.jpg

:banana::carrot::cucumber::pepper::banana2::dooby::cheers:

NOOOOOOOooooooo!!!!!!!........ :cry:

No, whoever did the rendering just threw those TGV's in for effect. Polands fastest trains go 160 km/h.

Originally posted by sOmeOne

NOOOOOOOooooooo!!!!!!!........ :cry:

allways these evil commieblock-fetishists... tztztz :D ;)

Originally posted by Piotr
No, whoever did the rendering just threw those TGV's in for effect. Polands fastest trains go 160 km/h.

what just 160 km/h thats not fast. Anything going 200 km/h + is fast. I consider 160km/h to be average. Shit even the Via trains in Canada go that fast and its not fast at all.

Next important info (at least for me ;) ) :

renovation of "Kubicki" arcades at the back of Royal castle will end in 2005. Furthermore reconstruction of Royal gardens should start.


Royal castle in XVIII century (view from Vistula river):

http://www.zamkipolskie.com/wars/wars07.jpg

Royal castle with "Kubicki" arcades (present photos):

http://www.zamkipolskie.com/wars/wars08.jpg http://www1.gazeta.pl/im/1751/z1751154G.jpg

Good job updating this thread, DocentX:)

About the TGVs...yes, there is a project.
Its about building a high-speed line to connect Berlin and Moscow.

The three station along the way will be:
Warsaw, Minsk and Smolensk.


In the future, i'd like to see a high-speed line between Belgrade and Warsaw:)

where exactly are these lines planned ?
i searched in the PKP website = no results :(

I don't like the changes on the Novotel hotel !
Why noy change only the sides and the top into a different color ?

About the Zlote Tarasy project : on which side of the park around the Palace is it U/C ?
Have an aerial pic to show me plz ?

Changes to the Piulsudski Square. There are Plans to rebuild two palaces which were destroyed douring WWII. Theres a huge debate on Plish Forum about that. Some people want it rebuild and some want some modern architecture or some sort of war monument on that place.


Now
http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/met01.jpg

Plans

http://www.adrk.neostrada.pl/parksaski3.jpg

http://warszawa.sarp.org.pl/php/seminarium/3_saski.jpg

http://warszawa.sarp.org.pl/php/seminarium/3_saski.jpg

There are no decisions made yet.

what a construction site :eek:
hwo many people are working over there ?

Originally posted by De Snor

About the Zlote Tarasy project : on which side of the park around the Palace is it U/C ?
Have an aerial pic to show me plz ?
Of course we have :cool:

http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image7.jpg

http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image8.jpg

If You want to see BIG amaount of older Warsaw projects, just check this site:


http://www.pbase.com/warsawfreak2/inbox&page=1


Unfortunatelly most of them are 'canceled' or 'on hold'.

Originally posted by DocentX

If You want to see BIG amaount of older Warsaw projects, just check this site:


http://www.pbase.com/warsawfreak2/inbox&page=1


Unfortunatelly most of them are 'canceled' or 'on hold'.


You could post a marvellous thread about these projects with these pictures.
It's just a tought...

http://warszawa.sarp.org.pl/php/seminarium/3_saski.jpg

All I can say is: beautiful !!!

Another very interesting investment:

revitalization of "Prozna" street- this is the only remaning street of former Warsaw Jewish Ghetto (rest was completely destroyed by Germans)!!!

It's hard to belive but the street is just in the city center (few hundered meters from Palace of Culture).

It looks terrible, but it has it's own special atmosphere:


http://ping.neostrada.pl/foto/Wawa8/big/10600034.jpg http://ping.neostrada.pl/foto/Wawa8/big/10600033.jpg http://ping.neostrada.pl/foto/Wawa8/big/10600036.jpg http://ping.neostrada.pl/foto/Wawa12/big/29210035.jpg http://ping.neostrada.pl/foto/Wawa8/big/10600037.jpg


There is a chance that in few years the street will look like this:

http://www.mediakreator.com.pl/images/jpg_arch/prozna01.jpg http://www.mediakreator.com.pl/images/jpg_arch/n0000.jpg http://www.mediakreator.com.pl/images/jpg_arch/prozna02.jpg http://www.mediakreator.com.pl/images/jpg_arch/n0061.jpg

Niiiiccccceeee.

:eat:

Brick by brick we are yet again rebuilding Warsaw.

Originally posted by DocentX

Another very interesting investment:

revitalization of "Prozna" street- this is the only remaning street of former Warsaw Jewish Ghetto (rest was completely destroyed by Germans)!!!


Interesting, and a good idea... the city should seriously consider rebuilding a larger part of the former Jewish Ghetto, if it's possible. Are there any plans besides this street?
It would no doubt be worth investing in a project like that.... think of all the Jewish tourists visiting the place and the amount of money that could bring for Warsaw.... :clown:
The project for revitalizing Prozna street looks excellent, btw.

the investment in the Prozna Street is worth every zloty.
excellent idea !




I do have a question about the traffic in Warsaw : are there plans to construct a beltway around the city ?
I believe lots of areas are congested today so a long term vision of traffic planning is very wanted.

It would be difficult to rebuild the rest of the jewish district because there is now a giant commie block district on it called Muranow. This area was literally like 1/3 of the city too.

De Snor, the A2 motorway will get to Warsaw by 2007, by then a beltway will be constructed as part of this. Its sort of a problem because none of the boroughs want it going through their territory.

I think the getto area should'nt be reconstructed . I guess that the Jewish Museum is an appropiate method to bring Jewish to Warsaw. But of course the reconstruction of Prozna is a fantastic idea.

Another view to Warsaw from Zoliborz.
http://www.autolider.pl/warszawa/Zdjecia/panorama5.jpg

Reconsturction of larger part of former Jewish Ghetto in Warsaw is simply impossible- completely new district, which is called Muranow was built there after the War.

But I cross my fingers for revitalization of "Prozna" street which goes to Grzybowski square (historic squre- there are also many historic buildings connected with Jewish culture left), there is Jewish theatre there and very nearby the only remaining synagogue of Warsaw Ghetto- "Nozyk" synagogue.

All this part of the city needs revitialization, but it can become big turist attraction in the near future!

Furthermore near the monument of Heroes of Warsaw Ghetto there will be constructed very modern Musem of Polish Jews- inside the Museum there are plans to recreate whole street whith prewar atmosphere of Jewish quarter in Warsaw.


Anyway there are some Warsaw Ghetto traces that are left and if You asking about Jewish turists- lots of them are coming to Warsaw already.



Monument at Umschlagplatz on Stawki Street

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/WarsawGhetto/WarsawGhetto01.jpg http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/WarsawGhetto/WarsawGhetto03.jpg

Memorial to Heroes of Warsaw Ghetto

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/WarsawGhetto/WarsawGhetto05.jpg

remaining section of Warsaw Ghetto wall

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/WarsawGhetto/WarsawGhetto10.jpg http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/WarsawGhetto/WarsawGhetto11.jpg

Nozyk Synagogue at # 6 Twarda Street in Warsaw

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/WarsawGhetto/WarsawGhetto14.jpg http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/WarsawGhetto/WarsawGhetto15.jpg http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/WarsawGhetto/WarsawGhetto16.jpg

Yiddish Theater to the left with Catholic Church in background

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/WarsawGhetto/WarsawGhetto17.jpg

The Jewish Cemetery

http://warsawghetto.epixtech.co.uk/Cemy%20graves%202.jpg





Some article:

JEWISH WARSAW
In the Ghetto
By Magda Kuszewska
10 April 2003

April 19 marks the 60th anniversary of the uprising in the Jewish ghetto in Warsaw. The four-hour tour Through Jewish Warsaw traces the most significant and tragic places of the Holocaust.

"We're moving about mainly in the area of the large ghetto," explains Jerzy Maleñczyk, director of the Our Roots Jewish Information&Tourist Bureau at the beginning of the tour. It is here, in the area of Grzybowski Square and part of Muranów district, that the most important ghetto landmarks were situated. Before the war, the area was occupied by houses, shops, markets, hospitals and cultural centers belonging to the Jewish commune.

60 Z³ota St.-A great wall surrounding the ghetto during World War II was situated along the section of Z³ota and Sienna streets. In order to see the preserved fragments of the wall one has to walk into the yard. "Mieczys³aw Jêdrzak, who still lives here, was the first person to commemorate this place," explains Maleñczyk. Jêdrzak marked the line of the wall with red bricks embedded in the ground.

It was only years later that a plaque was put up. A Jewish children's hospital, one of the oldest hospitals in Warsaw, built in the early 18th century, was situated at 60 Sienna St. The surrounding buildings were built nearly 100 years ago and later became part of the ghetto; they have been preserved in their original condition.

The corner of Waliców and Pereca streets-Near the ONZ Circle, down Prosta and along ¯elazna streets. "A small factory belonging to the ghetto area was situated here," says Maleñczyk. "However, the entrance to the factory was on the other side, since Poles worked there." A wall with visible traces of bullets from the period of the Jewish uprising of 1943 has been preserved. "So we have a double monument. The damaged wall is more telling than a plaque," says Maleñczyk. The damaged buildings, witness to the uprising, are still inhabited.

Ch³odna Street-Down Waliców St., crossing Krochmalna St. Entrances to the ghetto were situated here. "Ch³odna divided the ghetto into two parts," says Maleñczyk. "A large wall was built along it, over which there was a bridge." The street could not be included in the ghetto for practical reasons-it was located on the main transport route. At 20 Ch³odna St. is a building where Adam Czerniakow, head of the Judenrat administrative unit in the ghetto, used to live. He committed suicide as a sign of protest against the first transports of people to Treblinka. The paving stones and the streetcar rails come from the times of World War II. Mirowski Square is the place where markets were situated in which residents traded before the war. The Mirowska Market Hall, whose shape has actually been changed, is still situated there.

The Jewish cemetery on Gêsia Street-Approaching the cemetery driving down Karolkowa St. along Gibalskiego St. "It's a miracle that the cemetery has survived," says Maleñczyk. "Nobody knows why the Nazis didn't destroy it. About 200,000 graves have been preserved-an extraordinary number." Not only Jews from Warsaw rest in the cemetery. It also includes the graves of famous Jews such as Czerniakow, Perec, Zamenhoff and numerous artists, doctors, professors, actors, poets and writers. A separate part of the cemetery incorporates the graves of orthodox Jews, rabbis and zaddikim.

Zamenhoffa and Anielewicza streets-In the early 1980s the Memory Lane was created. Walking down the 300-meter-long section of Anielewicza St., one can see 16 commemorative stones devoted to the heroes of the Jewish uprising battles. Several steps further is a beautiful monument created by Natan Rappaport: Memorial of the Ghetto Heroes from 1948. It commemorates the uprising. The central part of the ghetto was situated here; the stones lead towards the Umschlagplatz.

The Umschlagplatz, 5/7 Stawki St.-A plaque stating that over 300,000 Jews died in this place, either executed or taken to death camps, has been placed on a large wall. As it would be impossible to place all the names of the thousands of victims of the Holocaust here, a symbolic set of 350 Jewish names have been written on the wall.

Nearby, at 6/8 Stawki St., a Jewish ghetto hospital was situated.
The small ghetto-Heading back down Jana Paw³a II and Solidarnoœci avenues towards Bankowy Square, the Jewish Historical Institute is situated at 3/5 T³omackie St. The institute presents photographic exhibitions and video projections about the Holocaust. There is also a small museum of religious structures where a life-size house of prayer can be seen. The Great Synagogue used to be situated near the institute-it was blown up May 16, 1943, the day after the ghetto was destroyed. The Silver Tower, one of Warsaw's office buildings, was built where the synagogue was once situated.

Grzybowski Sq.-"The most significant Jewish buildings of the present times are situated here," says Maleñczyk. Several centuries ago the square was a marketplace. In the 19th century the construction of buildings began; they were later damaged during the war and renovated over a dozen years ago. The famous No¿yk Synagogue (6 Twarda St.) and the Jewish Theater are situated here. Organizations such as the Ronald Lauder Foundation, the Association of Children of the Holocaust in Poland, the Polish Union of Jewish Students, the American-Polish Foundation for the Promotion of Polish-Jewish Culture and the editorial office of Midrasz magazine are also situated nearby. This is the area where the cultural, educational and artistic life of Jewish Warsaw is concentrated.

Originally posted by DocentX
[B]Another very interesting investment:

revitalization of "Prozna" street- this is the only remaning street of former Warsaw Jewish Ghetto (rest was completely destroyed by Germans)!!!

There is a chance that in few years the street will look like this:

http://www.mediakreator.com.pl/images/jpg_arch/prozna01.jpg

Few years ago "Pro¿na" was bought by the Lauder
Foundation. Project was made, promisses were spelled out,
but nothing has been done so far. Shame on Lauder
with this one.

There is a security guard guarding the buildings on one side of the street. Last summer I asked him what was up with the buildings. He said theres absolutely nothing currently going on, they just got him to watch it.

Here you are link to official website of Zlote Tarasy, there is link to english version of site. http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/

New, amazing rendering of Rondo1 :cool:

http://www.kion99.com/wawa/new/9.jpg

And new photo of construction site:

http://www.rondo1.pl/siteview/siteview_3.jpg

:eek:

You guys sure are lucky...:)

:yes: yes, we are! :angel1:

Originally posted by Tom1968

Warsaw is amazing. I like this town :)

Right, Warszwa was just sleeping last 50 Years I think.Now it`s coming back very fast into the highrise World..
But beware Poland: Not too fast if you don't want to make mistakes like Shanghai did it for the last few Years!
(Shanghais District Pundong is sinking 2 cm every Year!!)
Anyway Warszwa is on a good way Soboleus...

Originally posted by derpappenheimer

Right, Warszwa was just sleeping last 50 Years I think.Now it`s coming back very fast into the highrise World..
But beware Poland: Not too fast if you don't want to make mistakes like Shanghai did it for the last few Years!
(Shanghais District Pundong is sinking 2 cm every Year!!)
Anyway Warszwa is on a good way Soboleus...
Thanks :colgate:
And don't worry, skyscrapers in Warsaw are situated far from water ;)

Latest photos thanx to @cudak :

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Budowy/Pict0003.JPG http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Budowy/Pict0004.JPG http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Budowy/Pict0005.JPG http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Budowy/Pict0007.JPG http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Budowy/Pict0008.JPG

http://www.makieta.neostrada.pl/pies/bigpies/big_r4657.jpg http://www.makieta.com/webcam/ztgotowiec.jpg

Photos from construction of Lucka city:

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/lucka/0002.jpg http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/lucka/0006.jpg

Zloty Taras will become sunonimous with Warsaw once its built.
I have only two questions:
1) are there any plans now or in the future to repair the ugly train station ( I think its a train station, but Im not sure) or build a new one?
2) Is there any plan to get rid of the parking lot in the downtown area and put a building there? The parking lot is an eye sore right in the centre of downtown.

Rondo 1 by Warr

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=163129&quality=100&identifier=dc036a05a0&maxpixel=700

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=163128&quality=100&identifier=cbe0128061&maxpixel=700

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=163127&quality=100&identifier=6b973d0a88&maxpixel=700

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=163126&quality=100&identifier=bff8d0df9b&maxpixel=700

Photos by @proletariat:

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/571KL9Q1UL8 http://picserver.org/view_image.php/X4X8AH4Q43U

the people who are responsable for the co-ordination here must be genius !

What an impressive site :eek:

Originally posted by wholagun

Zloty Taras will become sunonimous with Warsaw once its built.
I have only two questions:
1) are there any plans now or in the future to repair the ugly train station ( I think its a train station, but Im not sure) or build a new one?
2) Is there any plan to get rid of the parking lot in the downtown area and put a building there? The parking lot is an eye sore right in the centre of downtown.
Of course there are plans for both places, but ONLY plans, because this whole terrain is a property of Polish Railways...

:eek:
HUGE!!
I love the glass dome thingy - awesome!

Pics of less known construction sites in Warsaw :cool:
(photos by Arek)

Residential building near Dworzec Gdanski Metro Station

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/20luty2004/0014.jpg

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/20luty2004/0010.jpg

Karowa 31 (office building)

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/20luty2004/0002.jpg

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/20luty2004/0004.jpg

"Przy operze" - apartment building

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/20luty2004/00076.jpg

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/20luty2004/00044.jpg

And Hilton Hotel (pics by Pafcio)

http://www.kapsle.fr.pl/forum/0003.jpg

http://www.kapsle.fr.pl/forum/0001.jpg

"Zielna"- some ofice building in the city center:

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Martin/lekcje-004.jpg http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Martin/lekcje-005.jpg

New hotel under construction in the WARSAW city center:

photos from 4 I 2004 by @Arek:

http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/4.01.2004/0001.jpg http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/budowy/4.01.2004/0003.jpg

Olympic Park:

http://www.echo.com.pl/bi_pkol/pix/pkol_pers.jpg

An Open Warsaw

25 February 2004

Micha³ Borowski, Warsaw City's chief architect, talks to Ewa Kielak Ciemniewska.


-Why should investors come to Warsaw?




This is a developing city, striving to catch up to other European capitals, so it will also want to have some 10 percent of the country's population living within its limits. So in some time, the city should have over 3 million residents, not counting the metropolitan area, which should double its population and exceed 6 million. !!!!!! :cheers:

This means that with the constant growth of the number of residents, the city's needs and opportunities for investors will keep growing.

Second, Warsaw still has much free land, and not only in the central districts. Even in the districts far from the center, Warsaw has very attractive areas because it's a city developing in all directions at the same time.

And third, this is a city that in a certain respect is exceptionally attractive to investors because it has no real center, unlike other European capitals-which means this center has to be built.

At the same time, the investment-oriented policy declared by Mayor Lech Kaczyñski is to be based on clear free market rules and principles. These guarantees from Kaczyñski should particularly attract serious institutional investors to build in Warsaw.


-You have spent most of your professional life in Sweden. Stockholm and many other Swedish cities are considered models of urban development, which cannot be said of Warsaw-a city ruined during the war and haphazardly rebuilt afterwards. What can you do to bring order to Warsaw?



A country that has lived and developed over the past few centuries in peace, without wars, partitions or communism, can hardly be compared to Poland, which has experienced all of these-although, earlier, it did not differ much from Sweden. Similarly, it is difficult for me to compare my home city of Stockholm with Warsaw, which of all European cities was the one most hurt by history.

Warsaw has been a self-governing, democratic city for just 15 years. Over that time it has undergone several administrative reforms and changes to its system which did not facilitate urban planning. Each of the 11 self-governing independent communes carried out planning tasks on its own and prepared investment plans that were not always compatible with the needs of the whole agglomeration. Only recently, over a year ago, the city was merged into one body, for which one person is responsible-the mayor, for the first time elected democratically. And in this context the responsibility Mayor Kaczyñski bears is enormous.

As for planning, work has to be started basically from scratch. This does not mean we can stop investment projects in Warsaw until the time when we have full control of the situation and when local development plans are ready. In line with the law on spatial development, we issue decisions on the conditions of construction and land development, and on their basis-the building permits. However, these decisions are always preceded by area and design analyses. The city must live and develop.

At the same time, we are conducting intensive planning. A study of conditions is being prepared which, when completed by the end of this year, will reflect the city's development strategy and will be a superior document for the local spatial development plans. This will be quite a detailed study, scaled 1:10,000-much more precise than the general plan of 1992, which has just expired. The study will define quarters, density of buildings, their height and line, and so on. Local plans will have to take into consideration the study's provisions.



-Since you began supervising the City Architect's Department, preparatory work on the development of Defilad Square and the western part of Pi³sudskiego Square has clearly accelerated. As for Pi³sudskiego Square, a tender has already been announced to reconstruct the historic Saski and Brühla palaces. What other projects do you consider priorities for Warsaw?



Investment priorities for Warsaw are set by Mayor Kaczyñski. The City Architect's Department scope of responsibility includes administrative activities: issuing decisions on land development and construction permits, planning work already mentioned, and task activities-preparatory work for launching individual projects, and supervision of those in progress.
Of course, the development of the western part of Pi³sudskiego Square and Defilad Square are at the moment the most important, most prestigious, even historic, events. These are central places in Warsaw. Defilad Square is right in the heart of downtown-it is a city-creating project that in the future will be the heart of the city, not only in the geographical sense. And Pi³sudskiego Square is a historic square to which Warsaw residents feel a strong emotional connection. Its development is of state importance and raises understandable interest among residents. In addition, I'm the head of the tender committee, so I'm aware of the great responsibility I bear-not only for the concept but, eventually, for the quality of the future buildings.

We also deal with other projects at the city mayor's order. For example, as the chief architect of the city,I supervise the project of the Warsaw Uprising Museum, which is to open Aug. 1, on the Uprising's 60th anniversary. Preparations are underway to build a National Stadium on the land used by Legia soccer club. Soon there will be a tender for a developer and contractor. We are also working on a concept to develop part of the land in Powiœle district, located on top of the tunnel, between Œwiêtokrzyski Bridge and Karowa Street. I'm also involved in the Wilanów Town project because it's the biggest urban development project in Warsaw. Five thousand apartments are to be built there, along with offices, services, schools, health care facilities, a shopping mall, and hypermarket. The project is based on the local development plan approved by the previous local government of Wilanów. Due to its large scale, this project and its implementation require particular supervision by the Chief Architect of the City, so that a quality town is created there.



-Warsaw's attractiveness is diminished by the lack of a conference and convention center, a trade fair center and a big modern arena. But the city also lacks municipal housing and an aquatic sports center. Where would you locate these projects in Warsaw?



We intend to build a convention and exhibition center on Defilad Square, near the Palace of Culture and Science, on the Jerozolimskie Avenue side. We expect facilities that will provide 30,000 square meters of new space, which, combined with the capacity and exhibition space in the Palace and with Kongresowa Hall, will create a completely new, original and exclusive congress and exhibition complex in the heart of the city.

Land for investment in trade fair and exhibition facilities is being prepared in Bielany district, on the premises of Lucchini Steel Mill, near the planned last stop of the Metro, M³ociny. In the future this area will have very good transportation connections, with a junction at the intersection of expressways, and the Pó³nocny (Northern) Bridge will be nearby.

As for municipal housing, whose construction is urgently needed, at present I can only say that a program of revitalization and renovation of the city's old municipal resources is being prepared, and it will also propose the location of welfare residential construction for the poorest residents. Revitalization of city quarters is connected with welfare construction because people living in old dilapidated houses are often poor and cannot afford new apartments.

An aquatic sports center may appear in the beautiful Cypel Czerniakowski area or in ¯erañ Port, which is a fascinating place linked by canals and the Zegrzyñski Lake with the Mazurian lakes.

A big arena may be constructed on the premises of Skra Sports Club on Wawelska Street, or elsewhere. No decisions have been made so far. In Warsaw, there are many large empty areas-£uk Siekierkowski, Praski Port, or big and attractive lots owned by the Polish State Railways (PKP). These hectares of empty land are waiting for investors.




-Under the condition that they will not build shopping malls-strongly opposed by Mayor Kaczyñski.




I think that no one should count on building what they want and how they want in Warsaw, as happened in the past. Or that each project, even the worst, can be somehow pushed through the offices. That time has passed. Investors have to take into consideration the investment policy of the Warsaw authorities, with clear and transparent rules, and the needs of the city. The fact that the city needs no more hypermarkets in steel "cans" that are called "shopping centers" does not mean that we are withholding all other investment projects in the trade segment of the real estate market. On the contrary, we are waiting for investors who will build city shopping malls combined with other functions-services, offices, facilities surrounded by attractively arranged public space. We have such places like the vicinity of Dworzec Po³udniowy bus station in Mokotów, in ¯oliborz, Praga, or Ochota, where local centers should be built, blending with the city and corresponding with the surroundings. We certainly want no more haphazard projects or lawlessness in construction in Warsaw. We want to carry out a conscious and balanced development of the city, observing the standards concerning height and size, so that the new facilities correspond with their surroundings. We want residents to live in a cultural, pleasant city that is friendly to people.

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A Reason to Cheer
25 February 2004

A national soccer stadium will be built in Warsaw, following a decision by Mayor Lech Kaczyñski. The new facility will hold some 35,000 spectators and will be used for matches played by Legia Warszawa club and the Polish national team.

The project-design and construction-will be financed by the city. The Ministry of Education and Sports will help finance the project.Construction is scheduled to be completed in the second half of 2006.

The mayor's approval puts an end to many years of indecision involving city authorities, club managers and the Polish Soccer Association (PZPN). Now the Polish capital will have a high-standard stadium meeting international requirements. If the planned tender for the design and the choice of the general contractor proceed smoothly, fans will soon be able to cheer in the new stadium at the corner of £azienkowska and Czerniakowska streets.

The Polish Army stadium, where Legia has played its matches to date, will not be demolished. It will be renovated and modernized at the city's expense-with or without the participation of Legia's owners. The ITI media holding company, which has come up with a preliminary offer to buy the club, wants to develop the land around the stadium according to its own plans. However, the mayor's declaration is clear: only sports and recreation facilities may be built there. It is consequently unclear what strategy Legia's potential sponsors will finally adopt. But one thing is certain-regardless of who owns the club, Legia will play in a new stadium.

Przemys³aw Molik

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Pi³sudskiego Square
25 February 2004

The City of Warsaw invites you to participate in a two-stage bidding, which has been announced, for the realization of the investment project entitled "The Development of the Western Frontage of Marshal Józefa Pi³sudskiego Square in Warsaw."


Pi³sudskiego Square is located in the center of Warsaw, in the vicinity of the historic Royal Route. Its western frontage, along with the Saski Palace, made up an important element of the 18th-century town planning arrangements-the Saska Axis. The former palace courtyard became a city square and always has been one of the most significant public places in the city. After Warsaw's destruction during World War II, only a fragment of the palace colonnade with the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (a place of national remembrance) was preserved.

Today Pi³sudskiego Square is a site of national ceremonies. The status of this place is the result of the traditions connected to it. Restoring the historic buildings on the western side of Pi³sudskiego Square must be accomplished in accordan with the requirements and guidelines of the conservators of historic monuments.

Within the framework of the contract, it is planned that three structures will be built the Brühla Palace the Saski Palace and a corner building at the entry to Królewska Street.

Brühla Palace

Its outstanding architectural and historic values justify the necessity of rebuilding the Brühla Palace (before World War II it was the headquarters of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs).
The main body of the palace should be rebuilt, along with the annexes flanking the courtyard with a decorative gate, preserving the arrangement and style of the building and the proportion of the courtyard. It is necessary to reconstruct the elevation (front and back) of the main body, as well as the interior elevations of the annexes on the courtyard side with architectural sculptural decorations.

However, it is permitted to introduce contemporary capacity forms in place of the prewar pavilion standing next to the main structure. The form should correspond to the architecture of the reconstructed Saski and Brühla Palaces, as well as harmonize with the space of the park around it-the Saski Garden.

The realization of the elevation of the building using traditional technology is required.

Sections where a contemporary resolution will be permitted should refer in their appearance to the character of the historic building.

Proposed function: office-service
- surface area of lot-9,245 sq m
- height of building-from 12 to 15 m
- total area of aboveground stories-19,100 sq m
- total area of two underground levels (under building and courtyard)-18,490 sq m
- number of parking spaces-around 600.

Saski Palace

The historic form of the Saski Palace makes up the most valuable element of the Saski Axis with the openwork colonnade, linking the park (Saski Garden) to the square in front of the palace. The part of the palace, connected to the facades of the open air courtyard in front of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, should only have official functions (excluding any commercial services) and should take into consideration the fact that a place should be left to accommodate the honor guards and room for permanent exhibitions dedicated to the history of the creation of this monument.

The present preserved authentic form of the Tomb of the Unknown should be legible and adequately marked in the reconstructed facade.

A separation of the arrangement of the wings of the palace is permitted, under the condition that the symmetry is preserved and identical building materials are used.

Proposed functions of the building, as well as public functions:
- surface area of lot-6,800 sq m
- height of building-16.5 m
- total area of above-ground stories-19,800 sq m
- total area of two underground levels-13,200 sq m
- number of parking spaces-around 440
- permission for possibility of transparent roofing over the courtyards in the northern and southern wings.

Building along Królewska Street

In the place where formerly three townhouses once stood, the realization is advised of a new building in architectural form that creatively refers to the historic buildings there, preserving the historic line of the building on the Królewska Street side.

The use of elegant finishing material is required. The building should correspond in its form and architectural details to the neighboring buildings on Pi³sudskiego and Ma³achowskiego Squares.

Proposed function: office-service
- surface area of lot-2,800 sq m
- height of building-up to 19.5 m (possibility of surpassing the Saski Palace by one story)
- total area of above-ground stories-13,000 sq m
- total area of two underground levels-5,200 sq m
- number of parking places-around 170.
- service functions located on the ground floor in the building on the western side should be open to the Saski Garden.

http://www.rzeczpospolita.pl/teksty/wydanie_031113/kraj_a_1-1.F.jpg

Warsaw City Center

25 February 2004

In 2005, Defilad Square will be turned into a construction site. There will be no skyscrapers; instead, public buildings and an open-air theater will appear in front of the Palace of Culture and Science (PKiN).

The main aim is to restore the layout of the streets which existed before World War II. They are supposed to cross at right angles and constitute an extension of existing streets-Poznañska, Pankiewicza, Chmielna and Œliska. These streets will also recover their prewar sections, those which hindered the builders of the Square and Palace in the 1950s when the remnants of old houses and streets were demolished and their residents resettled.

Until World War II, an important feature of the city's identity was an even system of buildings going in all directions from the intersection of Marsza³kowska Street and Jerozolimskie Avenue. The very center of the city was teeming with life, a place of trade and entertainment. After the failure of the Warsaw Uprising, the former center never recovered its prewar character. A huge palace, a "gift" from Stalin, was built on a large square in the very heart of the city.

Because of the PKiN's size and location, the city developed around it. The palace was a point of reference and a Soviet symbol of communist Warsaw. This is why, after 1989, people wanted to demolish it or at least hide it behind skyscrapers. There were many ideas and much debate on how the large empty space in the city center should be developed. In the end, thanks to the joint effort of Warsaw's authorities and the Urban and Architectonic Council, a concept was worked out which, according to everybody, has the greatest chances of being implemented and is most rational and economically justified.

In line with this concept, a square-provisionally called "Warsaw Agora"-is to be built in front of the palace. Concerts, demonstrations and New Year's celebrations for tens of thousands of people are to be held here. The location of a large commercial center is planned here-the Galeria Warszawska-at the intersection of Jerozolimskie Avenue and Marsza³kowska Street, as well as office buildings and apartments, which will create a frontage on Marsza³kowska Street and Jerozolimskie Avenue, as well as a congress center and hotels on the Emilli Plater side of the street. There will also be cultural sights, for example, a museum of contemporary art, which, along with a city square situated near the main entrance to the Palace of Culture and Science, as well as an underground exhibition space, would make up one of the main attractions of this part of the city.

Buildings which could house a theater and a concert hall will be erected in the part of the square close to Jerozolimskie Avenue. Conference facilities are planned in the vicinity of Kongresowa Hall; a wintergarden and indoor recreation space-near the PKiN. Also planned is an underground parking lot. The existing park along Œwiêtokrzyska Street will be preserved, with residential buildings erected on the edge of the park.

Compared to the plans prepared 12 years ago, the number of buildings is to be 30-40 percent smaller and their height should not exceed 10 stories or 25-30 meters. Only some of the buildings may be up to 40 m high. The dimensions and density of development are to be in accordance to the context of nearby surroundings. According to the design presented by Warsaw's Chief Architect Micha³ Borowski, the space will be divided into quarters to facilitate smaller detailed development plans and enable the organization of separate tenders. In the initial concept, the functions of individual parts of the complex have not been strictly defined: they will be decided by the city's needs and proposals made by investors. What is known is that this place has to be revived. This means that offices, apartments and hotels, shopping and entertainment space, as well as a convention and exhibition center, are needed. "There are still many open questions," said Borowski. How large the central square should be: for 50,000 or 200,000 people? Should the underground passage from Centralny Railway Station to the Metro station have shops competing with those to be built above ground? At present intense work is being done on this area in regard to its future.The goal is to create a new symbol for the capital: a City Center of high functional and aesthetic values.

One of the conditions which Mayor Lech Kaczyñski set when appointing Micha³ Borowski to the newly established post of Warsaw's chief architect was that construction work on Defilad Square should start in 2005.
The authorities expect that the most difficult task will be the development of the site on Jerozolimskie Avenue, owned by the Polish State Railways (PKP), with a cross-town railway line running underground. This is where the conversion of Defilad Square is to start. Although the final conditions of the tender have not yet been specified, many developers are interested in these projects. This is a rare opportunity for developing land in the very heart of a European capital.
Jolanta Karpacz

So in some time, the city should have over 3 million residents, not counting the metropolitan area, which should double its population and exceed 6 million. !!!!!!

No shit, thats a nice round number. When will Warsaw have 6 million ppl? And how would that put us in comparasion with other European cities?

Defilad IMHO will either be a boom or bust. It will either a good idea and look great or total shit. My problem with it is that it will leave a gaping hole in the centre of warsaw and will be lacking in height. Was it really too much to ask for just one skyscrpaer just one, jesus I guess it was. :bash:

When can we expect to see tenders and rendering for possible buiilding designs?

Does anyone have any renderings of the proposal soccer Stadium for Warsaw?

I dont see how there could be a hole considering there are skyscrapers on only one side of the Plac Defilad (West). The east is low rise buildings and the forum. I wouldnt mind a skyscraper on the corner of E. Plater and Jerozolimskie, but I'm not gonna cry about it if its low rise either.

Here is a pic of the stadium, i don't know anything about it though.

http://www.pbase.com/image/26397388

Well ok you said there are only skyscrapers east of Defilad thats a good point I didn't think of that, but you decide to put a skyscraper or skyscrapers west of it your screwed it will look bad. But as I said I have to see the designs for the buildings to really comment, it can be great or it can be crap we'll have to wait and see.

As for the stadium it looks as though it lacks immagination and vision.

Such a possibility doesnt exist because east is Warsaw's historical district, no one would allow an investor build a skyscraper there. And if they did, it would be the stupidest decision ever.

It has happenned once, TPSA built a fairly tall (I think 70m) building in the area, but this was the free for all of the mid 90's. Those days are long gone, we have laws and regulations now regarding new buildings.

oh really, I didn't know that. In fact I know very little about Warsaw and whats happening so....

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Destination Warsaw

25 February 2004

Warsaw is still a leader among Central and Eastern European cities in terms of the flow of investment. It is the wealthiest city in Poland, which is the largest country in the group of new European Union members.

The economic crises reported in Poland over the past few years have affected the capital city as well, though to a much smaller extent. The unemployment rate in Warsaw is 6.1 percent, as compared to Poland's average of 20 percent. Warsaw has 68 institutions of higher education which have a total of 350,000 students; there are also numerous research centers. Warsaw is a city of young people. One quarter of the city's population of 1.7 million is under 19 years of age. Another important asset is Warsaw's location on the route from Western Europe to Moscow.

In other words, Warsaw has plenty of advantages to attract investors. These include undeveloped land for construction. This issue of The City Voice features articles on large construction plans concerning Defilad Square, Pi³sudskiego Square and the area of the Legia sports club. Aside from these projects, the city administration is compiling development plans for a number of other areas, including interesting investment proposals in Praga-three large plots of land ready to welcome investors. The first is Praski Port with 18 hectares of land under development. Next to it is the vast area of the Dziesiêciolecia Stadium, earmarked for future public purposes of international significance, with hotels, catering services, commercial zones and congress and conference venues. It could also become home to multifunctional cultural and sports centers.

A few kilometers to the north is another unused river port - the ¯erañski Port. development plans concern commercial functions, housing and a water sports center. An additional attraction is the ¯erañski Canal, which leads to Zegrzyñski Lake, 30 km north of Warsaw.

Large areas for investment are also located outside downtown Warsaw on the left bank of the Vistula River. Like the district of Powiœle, Pole Mokotowskie has several university-level schools in its neighborhood. The city would like to create an academic quarter here. Sport and recreation activities, services and exhibition facilities with complementary housing estates are planned around the Pod Skoczni¹ Park, comprising 220 ha in Mokotów between Wilanowska Avenue, Gen. Sikorskiego, Sobieskiego, Kostrzewskiego, Piwarskiego, Konduktorska, Dolna, Pu³awska and Potoki streets.

Near Pod Skoczni¹ Park is another large area of 35 ha. The Dworzec Po³udniowy bus station, situated between Wilanowska and Niepodleg³oœci avenues and Potoki Street, can be used as a multifunctional trade, service and administration center to support the downtown zone.

When the Trasa Siekierkowska expressway was opened, the investment value of areas located along the thoroughfare in the western part of Warsaw rose significantly. The area called £uk Siekierkowski, assigned for urban functions with housing structures, is waiting for investors.

Apart from vast areas which should become home to significant new urban projects, Warsaw has dozens of smaller plots of land which the city authorities want to hand over to investors through tenders. Places which will become available this year include properties in Ursynów, on Pu³awska Street (8,151 sq m and 2,076 sq m), K³obucka Street (3,364 sq m), Kuropatwy Street (9,972 sq m), in the district of Wola on Wolska Street (6,103 sq m), and large plots of land in Bemowo on Po³czyñska Street (13,267 sq m, 5,970 sq m). In the city center, on Inflancka Street, almost 60,000 sq m is for sale on the site of a former bus depot. In Wilanów, over 20,000 sq m is available on Bruzdowa Street, 10,000 sq m on Orszady Street and nearly 28,000 sq m on Syta Street.

There is also a lot of land, free from any ownership claims, in Bia³o³êka, Targówek and Rembertów.

Information on undeveloped land is gathered in practically all Warsaw districts by the Development Strategy and European Integration Department. Information on plots of land ready for sale can also be found on the city administration's website: www.um.warszawa.pl along with www.warszawa-biznes.pl

The Promotion Department has recently created a new website about Warsaw for tourists and businesspeople. The main version is in English, but there is also information available in French, German, Spanish and Russian.

Go to www.e-warsaw.pl.
R.C.

Originally posted by DocentX

Olympic Park:

http://www.echo.com.pl/bi_pkol/pix/pkol_pers.jpg

I like this very much , but instead of 4 buildings they should have been stacked up imo
A tower of 20 floors would have been very nice behind the front entrance with that oval shape.

New Warsaw City Center:

http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/images/26-2.gif
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I know I have asked this question a 1000 times but i haven't gotten a straight answer yet. I wanna know when we will see the first design proposals for Plac Defield. I read in an article that many of the worlds best design companies are itching to get have thier design in defield because Warsaw has the chance to be a major European city some day and this would give the company more prestige.

So when can we see the first proposals for plac defield, i havn't seen anything and construction is suppose to begin 2005.

New skyscraper proposal in the Warsaw city center :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

http://www.bt-invest.com.pl/image_rep/btd/btd-wspolna.jpg

YES THAT THE SHIT IM TALKING YES!!!!! made my day.

With the lack of construciton updates in recent times, I was begging to worry that the skyscraper god had left and forgotten about Warsaw :devil: . With this, yet again im a believer.

Ok whats the damage like: how far from city centre?, how much meters below 200m? and how much little chance does this have of not being built by Borowski and his altitude sickness posse.

Originally posted by wholagun

YES THAT THE SHIT IM TALKING YES!!!!! made my day.

With the lack of construciton updates in recent times, I was begging to worry that the skyscraper god had left and forgotten about Warsaw :devil: . With this, yet again im a believer.

Ok whats the damage like: how far from city centre?, how much meters below 200m? and how much little chance does this have of not being built by Borowski and his altitude sickness posse.

Its going to be build right in the city center. U can see it on this rendering right behind Intrako and Mariot:

http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/images/26-3.gif

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Wwa/wbn19.jpg

http://www.imageshack.us/files1/26-3.gif

which building will it be number 1 or number 2 as indicated by the arrows ablove

How tall will it be in meters?

What are the chances it will be built?

Originally posted by wholagun

http://www.imageshack.us/files1/26-3.gif

which building will it be number 1 or number 2 as indicated by the arrows ablove

How tall will it be in meters?

What are the chances it will be built?

Its the one to the left of number 2. It will probably be similar height to Mariot and Intrako so around 140-150 meters. We dont know much yet, this is all very fresh info.

Originally posted by DocentX
http://www.bt-invest.com.pl/image_rep/btd/btd-wspolna.jpg

Bleh, I think this one might turn out bad...

are there any actual renderings of the building?

Originally posted by treds

Bleh, I think this one might turn out bad...

keep in mind that most projects are changed in one way or another before the finall design, so we may still see a few alternations to the design. Im not crazy about he black and white cominbation either, i would prefer clear class or a combination of other colors. then again i can't really judge cause these pics are not good quality and you can't see all the angles.

Why hasn't anyone posted this in the polish foum? I havn't seen it there, if it is there can someone link me to it.

Originally posted by wholagun

keep in mind that most projects are changed in one way or another before the finall design, so we may still see a few alternations to the design. Im not crazy about he black and white cominbation either, i would prefer clear class or a combination of other colors. then again i can't really judge cause these pics are not good quality and you can't see all the angles.

Why hasn't anyone posted this in the polish foum? I havn't seen it there, if it is there can someone link me to it.

Prosze bardzo:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93686

Originally posted by wholagun

keep in mind that most projects are changed in one way or another before the finall design, so we may still see a few alternations to the design.

Sure, but I'm just referring to how the project looks now. It reminds me of something more in the category of Vahap Toy's creations. :crazy: But who knows.

Pic from the construction of huge shoping center ARKADIA

http://wawka.republika.pl/ar1.jpg

photos taken by @ryjek :



http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=182738&quality=50&identifier=556cd68ed6&maxpixel http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=182739&quality=50&identifier=066279003f&maxpixel http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=182743&quality=50&identifier=e0c7a7344a&maxpixel http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=182744&quality=50&identifier=b12f77ee80&maxpixel

Lucka city:

http://www.fdi.i5.pl/yaros/yaros/040316_101-0119_IMGn.jpg

Zielna 37:

http://www.fdi.i5.pl/yaros/yaros/040316_101-0107_IMGn.jpg

Centrum Jasna:

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New hotels at Towarowa street:

http://www.fdi.i5.pl/yaros/yaros/040322_100-0086_IMGn.jpg

Pic of the finishing phase of the construction of CROWN POINT office building taken by @cudak at the begining of December 2003:

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/PICT0385.JPG http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/PICT0384.JPG



and bonus photos of the office buildings nearby:

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/PICT0388.JPG http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/PICT0391.JPG http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/PICT0392.JPG http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/PICT0394.JPG http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/PICT0395.JPG

KLIWER office building:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/1942/z1942753G.jpg

yo whats the status of the 1 billion Euro project just outside of Warsaw, its the huge shopping area and little residential area just outside of Warsaw is Wilno or something like that. You know what im refering to?

has construciton started there or no?

what is the completion date of Arcadia?

Wilanow, it is under construction.

Arkadia will open in 6 months.

http://www.fdi.i5.pl/pafcio/04.04/zt1.jpg http://www.fdi.i5.pl/pafcio/04.04/zt2.jpg http://www.se.com.pl/iso/Dzisiaj/Regiony/WwaNews/wa_tarasy1.jpg

Interesting article about the new shopping center:

Kind of Blue
By Ewa Kielak Ciemniewska
17 December 2003

31 March is the scheduled date for the opening of a giant shopping and entertainment center called Blue City, located on Jerozolimskie Avenue in Warsaw. The 186,000-square-meter complex will consist of three parts: a shopping mall, a three-star hotel and offices which will be completed at a later date.

The first part to open will be the shopping mall, with 200 stores and an entertainment center. According to Yoram Reshef, head of the managing staff of Blue City, the mall will be an exceptional and ultra modern place combining digital technology with sports and music. The entertainment center-with a surface area of 5,000 sq m-will house video games, billiard tables, bars, restaurants and discos. The organizer of the entertainment center is MagiCorp. Other planned facilities include an interior design store, a car showroom and a medical clinic. Seventy-five percent of the commercial area is already rented.

Interest among tenants is sizable, matching this unique and impressive mall. The top of its seven floors of shopping galleries is an enormous glass dome, 55 m above the ground floor. The floors will be connected by escalators and a panoramic elevator. Next to the elevator is a fountain with a 26-meter spray. The fountain will be the centerpiece of the mall's main square, which for now is still unfinished, but already provides an impressive view of the surrounding galleries. The structure forms a monumental and spacious enclosed space, pure in terms of composition and proportions.

The thorough redevelopment of Blue City is taken care of by the APA Wojciechowski architecture studio, which is working on the project together with American architects from the Laguarda Low design office. The construction of the complex was started a few years ago by Turkish investors related to the Reform Company and Sabri Bekdas-the man behind the idea for the Blue City project. Then, the developer company collaborated with a group of investors who do business primarily on the American market. Two Dutch companies, Singspiel Investeringen B.V. and Anandrous B.V. purchased 51 percent of the stock. These companies are owned by Albert Nasser and his family-owners of the Congress Hotel in Chicago and office buildings in New York City-the Nakash brothers, owners of the textile company Jordache, and Amnon Shiboleth, a lawyer and real estate owner.

The new investors entrusted the redevelopment and organization of the mall to experienced manager Yoram Reshef, who is credited for the success of Galeria Mokotów. Reshef is not planning to open a supermarket in Blue City and is going to reduce the amount of food products to a minimum. As in Galeria Mokotów, he has prepared a detailed rental plan which takes into consideration the most accurate of particular sectors.

Underneath the building is a parking lot for 2,600 cars and a tunnel which leads under the busy thoroughfare of Jerozolimskie Avenue, providing quick passage to the shopping mall and supermarket Reduta.

The general contractor of Blue City is Warbud. Next year, a three-star hotel is expected to open in one of the two wings surrounding the central shopping rotunda. The operator of the hotel is Barceló-a Spanish hotel chain that manages around 50 hotels in South America, the United States, the Iberian Peninsula and islands of the Mediterranean Sea. The chain also has one hotel in Prague.

http://serwisy.gazeta.pl/im/1996/z1996283G.jpg http://www.mieszkania.tabelaofert.pl/imagesrc/klient_156/ogrody_shiraz_z_gory_-_wiz.jpg http://www.gorpol.krakow.pl/miasta/wawa/04/a-kl06.jpg http://www.gorpol.krakow.pl/miasta/wawa/04/a-kl18.jpg http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Budowy/PICT0210.JPG


photos from the opening :weird:

http://www.arbiter.pl/files/g/2_3375_1.jpg http://www.arbiter.pl/files/g/2_3378_4.jpg http://www.arbiter.pl/files/g/2_3386_12.jpg http://www.arbiter.pl/files/g/2_3387_13.jpg http://www.arbiter.pl/files/g/2_3388_14.jpg http://reality.pl/BC/bluecity_0019_filtered%20(Large).jpg http://reality.pl/BC/bluecity_0051_filtered%20(Large).jpg

Some more info (unfortunatelly in Polish) and localization of the BLUE CITY:

http://www.rzeczpospolita.pl/teksty/warszawa_040330/warszawa_a_5-1.F.jpg

http://www.arbiter.pl/files/g/2_3378_4.jpg
Wow, people in Warsaw are sure hungry of shopping malls!

what I have a hard time recognizing and understanding is which part of Zloty Taraszs is being built in the construciton photos? Do you know DocentX?

Wow, people in Warsaw are sure hungry of shopping malls!

you gotta love consumer capitalism. :D

It's not so much the mall that interests these people, it's the opening sale at an electronics retailer where they were selling a Grundig DVD player for less than 25 €. It was advertised throughout the city and apparenty the whole mall was more than overwhelmed by the masses of village people pouring into the shop.

:llama:

rednecks hehehehe

There are construction works on the all parts of the "Zlote Tarasy" complex.


This part is a future multiplex cinema:

http://www.fdi.i5.pl/pafcio/04.04/zt1.jpg

This is the building in the west-south corner:

http://www.se.com.pl/iso/Dzisiaj/Regiony/WwaNews/wa_tarasy1.jpg

Photos by @ryjek:

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=196394&quality=50&identifier=268c6a3ba4&maxpixel http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=196395&quality=50&identifier=5d263b6c94&maxpixel http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=196396&quality=50&identifier=c4ca381542&maxpixel

Metro station "Plac Wilsona" ('Wilson square')

renderings:

http://www.metro.projectcom.pl/grafika/a18-18.jpg http://www.metro.projectcom.pl/grafika/a18-16.jpg

construction works:

http://www.metro.projectcom.pl/grafika/kopula0-1.jpg http://www.metro.projectcom.pl/grafika/kopula0-2.jpg http://www.metro.projectcom.pl/grafika/img_0702.jpg http://www.metro.projectcom.pl/grafika/kopula2-2.jpg http://www.metro.projectcom.pl/grafika/kopula3-4.jpg

-BlueCity looks very colorful.The number of shopping centres is booming in the city.Within a few years it turns into a shopping mecca :)

-That kind of dish in the ceiling of the Plac Wilsona is really beautiful :eek:

- I wonder how the people from Warszawa are looking against the huge amount of construction sites in their city ...

-That kind of dish in the ceiling of the Plac Wilsona is really beautiful :eek:


You can't be serious!! I feel your being overly generous, as usual.
That is the biggest eye sour Iv ever seen. It totally ruins the whole thing. I gotta say, the metro looks like it was designed without any creativity, and no that dish is not creativity but rather really bad taste which does not substitute for creativity.

:down: :toilet: :puke:

Centrum Grzybowska:

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/gc02.jpg http://www.warsaw3d.com/grzy-montage2-real.jpg

construction photos (4 IV 2004 by @pafcio) :

http://www.fdi.i5.pl/pafcio/04.04/hilton1.jpg http://www.fdi.i5.pl/pafcio/04.04/hilton2.jpg http://www.fdi.i5.pl/pafcio/04.04/hilton3.jpg

If you what to see a comercial of Warsaw just click on link :) http://www.destinationwarsaw.com/video.html I havent seen this on Euroscrapers so I posted it :)

Revitalization of the 'Krakowskie Przedmiescie' street (one of the most representative streets in Warsaw):

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2037/z2037195G.jpg http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2037/z2037194G.jpg

Pictures by @Jakub (14 IV 2004):

http://sprytux.republika.pl/zt.jpg http://sprytux.republika.pl/zt2.jpg


pictures by clerykucjo:

http://www.xsi.co.za/hackunion/a6.jpg http://www.xsi.co.za/hackunion/a7.jpg http://www.xsi.co.za/hackunion/a8.jpg http://www.xsi.co.za/hackunion/a9.jpg http://www.xsi.co.za/hackunion/a10.jpg http://www.xsi.co.za/hackunion/a11.jpg http://www.xsi.co.za/hackunion/a12.jpg http://www.xsi.co.za/hackunion/a13.jpg http://www.xsi.co.za/hackunion/a14.jpg http://www.xsi.co.za/hackunion/a15.jpg

Looks very nice but how does it look today ?

Across the street where that huge parking lot is , is there something planned ?

Across the street where that huge parking lot is , is there something planned ?
There are some proposals but nothing will be built there in near future because of property pretensions to this terrain (I'm not sure how to say this in English ;)) We have to wait for a verdict of Administrative Court...

Looks very nice but how does it look today ?

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2036/z2036676G.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2037/z2037195G.jpg

Sounds heavy !
Wait for what verdict => how the terrain shall be used in the future ?

@ wholagun :
are you really so against that dish ?
I believe it gives a kind of extra dimension to the whole structure .

@ Luke84 : thank you !

@ DocentX : are that 4 office towers for the Centrum Grzybowska ?

The Court is going to find who is the real owner of this terrain ;) (It's quite complicated...) Officially this is the property of Polish Railways but some people have diferrent opinion :sly:
And of course both sides want to build something there or sell this terrain to foreign investors ;)

Probably a strange question but do ALL PKP buildings , yards and grounds belong to the Polish state ?

Probably a strange question but do ALL PKP buildings , yards and grounds belong to the Polish state ?
Yes, unfortunately... :| And that's why it's almost impossible to build (or even to modernize) something on these grounds... :wallbash:

@ DocentX : are that 4 office towers for the Centrum Grzybowska ?

Yes, here's another picture of this design:

http://www.kir-architekci.com/katalog/wybrane/koncepcje/grzybowska_centrum/pages/2.jpg

New headqater of Polish Public TV:

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/Pict0719.jpg

Some new projects (photos by @AGC) :

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=209510&quality=100&identifier=3fe4cdb4f5 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=209505&quality=100&identifier=fce14f400b http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=209504&quality=100&identifier=c91adc1de6 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=209498&quality=100&identifier=7a4eb4b371 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=209495&quality=100&identifier=0e9cab3432 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=209494&quality=100&identifier=f4af09d65a http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=209491&quality=100&identifier=975e408328 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=209490&quality=100&identifier=92d8649f95 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=209487&quality=100&identifier=1b6a69f175 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=209486&quality=100&identifier=a9eaea4062

this city is becoming one huge construction site :eek:
that green thing is a weird thing , very unusual design !
it looks like there are 2 projects in one when looking to those renderings
:dunno:

this city is becoming one huge construction site :eek:
that green thing is a weird thing , very unusual design !
it looks like there are 2 projects in one when looking to those renderings
:dunno:

You are correct. The building will incorporate whats left of a pre-war bank which ruins have been standing in that place since WWII ended. I dont have a picture of it but it looks really bad.

Zlote Tarasy update:

http://members.rogers.com/wiezowce/tarasy.jpg

http://members.rogers.com/wiezowce/tarasy.jpg

Hotel Hilton:

http://www.architektura-murator.pl/images/wizualizacja_hilt.jpg http://www.architektura-murator.pl/images/inter_hilton_przek.gif
http://republika.pl/arekkj1983/wawa22.04.2004/0009.jpg

Night shot from Jacek

http://members.rogers.com/wiezowce/rondo.jpg

Wow,ale masakra! :applause: ,świetna fotka!Thx Soboleus

and thx Jacek :-)

very nice picture :eek:

With Rondo1 and Golden Terraces completed it would be a sight.:soon:

My photos got screwed up.

Centrum Jasna:

http://strony.aster.pl/war/fota/033SC.jpg http://www.autolider.pl/warszawa/Zdjecia/38.jpg

Articom Center:

http://www.bhi.com.pl/foto/zdjecie121012004.jpg http://www.bhi.com.pl/foto/zdjecie321012004.jpg http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2084/z2084749G.jpg http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2084/z2084697G.jpg

Looks awesome, u can see that the tower is already two floors tall

Warsaw's Olimpic Center:

http://www.echo.com.pl/bi_pkol/pix/pkol_pers.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2102/z2102583G.jpg

photos by @Ryjek:

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=232723&quality=50&identifier=2c46e7d346&maxpixe

photos by @Jedlinio:

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/jedlinio/4.jpg http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/jedlinio/5.jpg http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/jedlinio/9.jpg http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/jedlinio/10.jpg http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/jedlinio/14.jpg

New Warsaw city center - construction should start next year:

http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_01.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_02.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_03.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_04.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_05.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_06.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_08.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_09.jpg

The glass dome of Zlote Tarasy under construction:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2123/z2123253G.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2123/z2123252G.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2123/z2123255G.jpg

And some facts about this structure:
Area: 10 200 square meters
Weight: 1 400 tons
It will be made of 4780 glass triangles and 7120 steel bars :dizzy:

Dutch investors are building this project.

http://www.ingrealestate.pl/images/03.jpg

http://www.rodamco-eu.com/gfx/rodamco_logo.gif


RODAMCO EUROPE AND ING REAL ESTATE TOGETHER IN ZLOTE TARASY, POLAND

Rodamco Europe and ING Real Estate have agreed terms on the acquisition by Rodamco Europe of a 50% interest in a large multifunctional project, located in the heart of Warsaw. The project, known as Zlote Tarasy, consists of a shopping centre, offices, a hotel and underground parking. Rodamco Europe will acquire 50% of the project on completion, excluding the hotel, delivered on a turnkey basis. The remaining 50% will be held by ING Real Estate.

The total investment for Rodamco Europe is expected to be approximately EUR 150-175 million. The acquisition will be Rodamco Europe's first investment in Poland, and furthers Rodamco Europe's investment policy of expanding its high-quality retail portfolio in Europe. The investment is expected to provide a net initial yield of 8.5-9%. Construction will start in late 2001, and completion is scheduled for the end of 2004.

Zlote Tarasy is a mixed-use retail and entertainment centre designed to restore Warsaw's urban identity. The project will be sited near the landmark "Palace of Culture", between Warsaw's central railway station and Zlota Street. The purpose of the project is to embed a modern multifunctional complex in Warsaw's
existing urban structure. The total area of the complex will be approximately 205,000 m2. The first three levels will contain retail establishments, restaurants (approximately 60,000 m2), a multiplex cinema and a hotel (370 rooms). Approximately 24,000 m2 of offices will be located above these three levels, and 1,400 parking spaces will be provided underground. The central part of the complex will feature a large plaza and will be used for concerts, shows and other performances. The restaurants and entertainment terraces will look out on green, landscaped areas with water features. An axis runs through the project, with public transport connections to the city's central business district.

The American architectural firm The Jerde Partnership International, Inc., which specialises in urban and architectural planning, has prepared the design for the project. Rodamco Europe's Hans Pars, Managing Director Central and Eastern Europe, comments: "Following our entry into the shopping centre market in Hungary and the Czech Republic, Rodamco Europe now has the opportunity to enter Poland, Central Europe's largest consumer market, with approximately 40 million inhabitants. This investment furthers our strategy for Central Europe of investing in high-quality shopping centres in terms of turnover and long-term growth potential."

ING Real Estate's Jan Doets, CEO, adds: "Zlote Tarasy will be a new landmark in the city of Warsaw. Due to its multifunctional aspect and the quality of the design, Zlote Tarasy will set a standard for new urban developments in Poland. We will place this project in the shortly to be launched ING Central Europe Fund, thus emphasising its long-term quality."

Company Profile

Rodamco Europe (Rotterdam)
Rodamco Europe is the largest listed property investment company in continental Europe, with a diversified portfolio of commercial property valued at EUR 5.5 billion. Rodamco Europe is a major player in the European Retail sector.

ING Real Estate (Amsterdam)
ING Real Estate is an international real estate company operating in the specialist areas of development, asset management and finance. Its activities are concentrated on retail, residential, office and parking facilities. With continually growing capital of approximately EUR 26 billion, ING Real Estate is one of the world's three largest real estate companies.

:)

What is that white building built close to the riverbank ?

http://members.rogers.com/wiezowce/2.jpg

My my , Rondo is getting shape , very fast :eek:

Why is the façade not cleaned up enterely (different tennants) ?

http://www.autolider.pl/warszawa/Zdjecia/38.jpg

De Snor that photo is not from Warsaw, sorry for mistake.

Why is the façade not cleaned up enterely (different tennants) ?


I think you've just answered your question ;) (but the dirty or only partly cleaned facades are a serious problem in Warsaw... :| )

From where is it then ?

@ Jacek , should I delete the picture then ?

CROWN TOWER

-renderings:

http://www.biura.tabelaofert.pl/imagesrc/klient_534/crowntower_ghelamko.jpg

-const. works:

http://duzer.webpark.pl/IMG_2110.jpg http://duzer.webpark.pl/IMG_2113.jpg

PROSTA 69 - face lifting ;)

http://duzer.webpark.pl/IMG_2081.jpg
http://www.brochocki.pl/photo/82prosta1.jpg

Warsaw Uprising Museum - constr. works:

http://duzer.webpark.pl/IMG_2089.jpg http://duzer.webpark.pl/IMG_2088.jpg

Photo was from Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

Here are some new photos from Zlote Tarasy project in Warsaw

18 june

photos: clerykucjo
hosting: by me

http://members.rogers.com/wiezowce/1.jpg

http://members.rogers.com/wiezowce/2.jpg

http://members.rogers.com/wiezowce/3.jpg

WOOW! That's a big boomer

photos by @MutaTom from 27 VI 2004:

http://www.tomekem.website.pl/PICT0008.JPG http://www.tomekem.website.pl/PICT0010.JPG http://www.tomekem.website.pl/PICT0014.JPG http://www.tomekem.website.pl/PICT0018.JPG http://www.tomekem.website.pl/PICT0019.JPG http://www.tomekem.website.pl/PICT0002.JPG http://www.tomekem.website.pl/PICT0004.JPG

Awesome pics for Mutatom. You can really see it taking shape. The tower is already on the 5th floor and the wavy roof is making quick progress!

New WKD train for Warsaw
(the WKD line connects some cities outside Warsaw with Warsaw city center) :

http://kmmetra.republika.pl/13EW-1.jpg http://kmmetra.republika.pl/13EW-2.jpg http://kmmetra.republika.pl/13EW-3.jpg http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2154/z2154363G.jpg http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2154/z2154224G.jpg

Hilton hotel:

http://www.architektura-murator.pl/images/wizualizacja_hilt.jpg

construction photos by @kafarek ( 29 VI 2004 ) :

http://www.ee.pw.edu.pl/~daniszem/zt2/00033.jpg http://www.ee.pw.edu.pl/~daniszem/zt2/00032.jpg http://www.ee.pw.edu.pl/~daniszem/zt2/00034.jpg

The Hilton is a very elegant building , how tall is it going to be ?

...


probably a silly question but how many buildings are U/C in WaWa today ?

Hilton will be 92 metres to the roof. Eventually two 80m apartment towers and an office building of unknown height will be built as part of the same project. They'll be built where you can see the constructiuon containers and the third last pic.

There are 4 buildings > 90m under construction right now. How many buildings altogether though, I'm not sure.

Some lates news about projects and construction in Warsaw:

Construction of National football stadium in Warsaw should start next year and should be finished in 2007:

http://www.rzeczpospolita.pl/teksty/warszawa_040727/warszawa_a_5-1.F.jpg

Construction of New terminal of Warsaw airport:

http://www.lotnisko-chopina.pl/images/dziennik/13_07_2004_00.jpg http://www.lotnisko-chopina.pl/images/dziennik/13_07_2004_01.jpg http://www.lotnisko-chopina.pl/images/dziennik/13_07_2004_03.jpg

renderings of the new terminal:

http://www.floornature.com/worldaround/img_news/news401_2_popup.jpg http://www.floornature.com/worldaround/img_news/news401_3_popup.jpg

construction of the first stage of the WARSAW UPRISING museum will be finished on the 1st of August (in the 60th anniversory of the Uprising):

It will be the most modern museum in Poland !

http://www.rzeczpospolita.pl/teksty/warszawa_040720/warszawa_a_1-1.jpg

link to the museum :

http://www.1944.pl/


And finally...... Warsaw is going to have new trash containers :) :cheers:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2199/z2199442G.jpg http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2199/z2199441G.jpg

these rubbish bins are elegant.

I like the roof but how are they going to keep it clean ??

Acid rain? :)

Acid rain? :)

:hilarious

Stadion Narodowy with only 35 tys. mijesc?
Warsaw surely deserves better!:)

Other projects are all great....does anyone have a map of that WKD line?

Yeah, its not gonna be a "real" national stadium, thats generally considered as propaganda to get some funding from the gov't :D It doesnt look like Poland will get a reall, 50k+ national stadium for a long time. :(

It will be the main Legia Warszawa stadium though, and I still think its a little small, but what can ya do.

New hotel in Warsaw's downtown is beeing finished.

photos by @sojuz:

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=270168&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=1a1346062c http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=270169&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=29b7dbdb87 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=270170&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=2a58357723 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=270171&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=d0b05154b1

Another update

http://members.rogers.com/wiezowce/zlote.jpg

Lucid Entertainment Inc. opens its third "Lucid" entertainment venue as part of the "Magic City" entertainment complex in Warsaw, Poland.

Friday August 6, 12:57 pm ET

Lucid Entertainment Inc. (Formerly MagiCorp Entertainment Inc.) LUC : TSX-V

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2215/z2215683G.jpg

TORONTO, Aug. 6 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ - MR. ALAN MOORE, President of Lucid Entertainment Inc. ("LEI"), was present at the opening of LUCID, Warsaw last night, Thursday August 5th, 2004 and reports that the opening was a sell- out success, with an over-capacity crowd in attendance.
LUCID, WARSAW forms part of the "Magic City" entertainment complex, which was conceived, designed and built by LEI under the terms of turnkey design/build contracts. LEI holds an indirect 30% ownership interest in both Magic City and Lucid, Warsaw and manages the entire Magic City operation under a long-term management contract. LEI will receive a management fee equal to 4% of the gross revenues of both Magic City and LUCID, Warsaw, in addition to its 30% ownership participation.

Magic City is located within the new 1,500,000 square feet Blue City Mall and comprises three areas, one for children, one for all the family and LUCID for age 21 and up. The children's area includes rides, playgrounds and a carousel; the family area includes a 3-D cinema, virtual reality games arcade, a Horror House, Mirror Maze and Bumper Cars, which can also be ridden at night by customers of LUCID, which connects to the family entertainment area via a sky bridge.

The total development cost of Magic City was approximately US$10 million, which was funded by landlord's allowances, two term loans provided by Bank Zachodni WBK S.A. (as previously announced on April 7th, 2004) and shareholder's subordinated loans.

Magic City, Warsaw is the first fully integrated entertainment complex in Eastern Europe, extends to a total of 65,000 square feet and expects to attract 500,000 customers annually.

Lucid Entertainment Inc. (formerly, MagiCorp Entertainment Inc.) is a leading operator and developer of branded entertainment and hospitality venues internationally.

Photos by @REDHATT:

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=275331&quality=100&identifier=f18929d9e4& http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=275323&quality=100&identifier=aac0b30d04&

Warsaw airport : const. of the second terminal:

by @jendrus:

http://startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=272387&quality=100&identifier=eb6b8a4be1 http://startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=272390&quality=100&identifier=5331266b0d http://startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=272389&quality=100&identifier=f64b558f68 http://startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=272388&quality=100&identifier=bb34a078c8

Lucka Tower by @REDHATT:

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=275329&quality=100&identifier=6076ccab5f&

Crown Tower by @maly:

http://img56.exs.cx/img56/2108/DSC06963.jpg

around Crown Tower:

http://img52.exs.cx/img52/2291/DSC06955.jpg http://img68.exs.cx/img68/9553/DSC06960.jpg http://img52.exs.cx/img52/6113/prosta69.jpg

Grzybowska center by @duze:

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=275451&quality=100&identifier=941242d3b1&maxpixel=800 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=275452&quality=100&identifier=7b2f88e743&maxpixel=800

some bonus photos from the redevelopment of the French ambassy by @sojuz:

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=273057&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=1423ab65be http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=273058&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=ecfade03a3

Interesting panoramic photo:

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/zentrum.jpg

Renovation of the historic hotel in the very center of Warsaw is being finished. :cheers:

small photo of the elevation of Hotel "Polonia" :

http://www.rzeczpospolita.pl/teksty/warszawa_040819/warszawa_a_11-1.jpg

Poland wants to build it's own "Pentagon" in Warsaw.

http://mojawawa.w.interia.pl/pentagon.JPG

Some new projects :

http://www.biura.tabelaofert.pl/imagesrc/klient_586/wiz_equator_1.jpg http://www.biura.tabelaofert.pl/imagesrc/klient_586/wiz_passat_karimpol_1.jpg

Warsaw:

'Arkadia' - the biggest shoping center in this part of Europe is almost finished.

Photos by @Pafcio:

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/forum/ark1.JPG http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/forum/ark2.JPG http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/forum/ark3.JPG http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/forum/ark4.JPG http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/forum/ark5.JPG http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/forum/ark6.JPG

Which tower is this ?

http://www.pawelkam.neostrada.pl/forum/ark3.JPG

It is Babka Tower (residental building) about 105m.

Proposals for Pilsudskiego square in WARSAW
(constr. of the palaces will start next year and should be finished in 2007) :

square today:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2245/z2245955G.jpg

proposal of the French firm Bouygues:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2245/z2245956G.jpg

proposal of Hungarian Trigrant:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2245/z2245957G.jpg

very interesting proposal by Buelens Real Estate (firm from Belgium) -
glass columns:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2245/z2245958G.jpg

so where will be the new grave of the unknown soldier be?

so where will be the new grave of the unknown soldier be?

In the same place - the Tomb of unknown soldier was here before the II WW.

Saski Palace and Tomb of unknown soldier before the war:

http://www.warszawa1939.pl/zdjecia/szymon/sas3.jpg http://www.warszawa1939.pl/zdjecia/aa/0020.jpg http://www.warszawa1939.pl/zdjecia/aa/0022.jpg

photos by @sojuz:

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=285639&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=af3dc199bf http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=285640&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=05167806bf http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=285641&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=85c331e582 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=285642&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=296049cc5d http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=285643&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=d667c7b964

photos by @svir:

http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/ZT1.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/ZT3.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/ZT5.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/ZT6.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/ZT7.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/ZT8.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/ZT9.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/ZT10.jpg

Proposals for Pilsudskiego square in WARSAW
(constr. of the palaces will start next year and should be finished in 2007) :

square today:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2245/z2245955G.jpg

proposal of the French firm Bouygues:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2245/z2245956G.jpg

proposal of Hungarian Trigrant:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2245/z2245957G.jpg

very interesting proposal by Buelens Real Estate (firm from Belgium) -
glass columns:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2245/z2245958G.jpg

More info about it:

Trigrant project :

http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Wegry1.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Wegry2.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Wegry3.jpg

Bouygues Batiment International :

http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Francja1.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Francja2.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Francja3.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Francja4.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Francja5.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Francja6.jpg

Buelens Real Estate :

http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Belgowie1.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Belgowie2.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Belgowie3.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Belgowie7.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Belgowie9.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/fotki/Belgowie10.jpg

will the interior be new?

will the interior be new?

Yes