X_Change @ Swinburne, last week


Big Black crane coming to a swinbourne near you, tomorrow, Thursday 2/9

Espy at St Kilda will be coming sooner or later.

notice the second starter is out at Swinburne as well, needs a coat of black paint like the first one, anyone know if the AbiGroup crane at Epworth Box Hill is still around?

one to wet Tayser's appetite....

Development off and racing
Kate Uebergang
01sep04

HISTORIC Caulfield racetrack is to join the modern urban age.

Glen Eira Council has unveiled a plan paving the way for multi-storey development in the members' car parks.
The council planning amendment gives the green light for medium to high-density development on the Phoenix Precinct, covering the racecourse, car parks, Caulfield station, Monash University, a shopping centre and a reserve.

But Melbourne Racing Club, which owns the racecourse, said development could be years away.

Deputy chief executive John Noy said the club was exploring ways to accommodate race-day parking needs and development.

Planning Minister Mary Delahunty said the plan would transform the car parks into lively neighbourhoods, in line with the State Government's Melbourne 2030 scheme.

Glen Eira Council has unveiled a plan paving the way for multi-storey development in the members' car parks.
The council planning amendment gives the green light for medium to high-density development on the Phoenix Precinct, covering the racecourse, car parks, Caulfield station, Monash University, a shopping centre and a reserve.


Hopefull not until I've completed all my uni requirements and exams (which are held at Caulfield Racecourse).

hah ;)

Caulfield looks to be set for the next 5 years,

The main building I'm based in at Caulfield is now mooted for demolition and redevelopment. School of Information Management and Systems (SIMS) - T Block, S.E cnr of Sir John Monash drive and Queens Ave is the old Caulfield Tech building. Easily 10 levels on the site (backs up against the rail lines and there's a rail maintenance depot (Alstom?) next to the rail lines. Could probably go even higher but would be somewhat limited due to the tennis courts / ovals to the east (afternoon shadow would probably be severe)

Which ones are the member's car parks?

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/monash-caulfield.jpg

EDIT: one thing's for certain: any residential development will sell / be rented out like hot cakes: there's tonnes of cashed up international students going to Caulfield every day & a lack of accomodation nearby.

No doubt that there is plenty of space monash can now utilise, its just a matter of getting the construction planned and going. I had heard a rumour that they were thinking of moving all business related courses from Clayton to Caulfield in the long-term, and moving the few Engineering places, etc at Caulfield over to Clayton... in essence making an almost specialised business/ technology campus (with a few others thrown in, arts mainly). But that was just a rumour....

Definately the SIMS building will be the next to go, as it is pretty derelict as it is.... and for sure any residential stuff they put up will easily rent out or sell 100% in no time, as you mentioned a major lack of housing for students in the area. Dunno what time frame they are thinking about for Caulfield plaza, that has a few large anchor tenents that wouldn't be too happy to move/ be shut down (that Coles makes a killing off students...).

But yeah, definately set for the next 5-10 years of growth.

stu

Coles' lease is up or is about to expire and Monash don't want to renew it ;)

This is what I think Caulfield could cope with in terms of height, so long as all the car poarking is underground and the podiums are of human scale (3-4 stories) with active street frontages along Station St facing the racecourse, Normanby Rd facing the train line and all development sites north of the train line.

http://img76.exs.cx/img76/2228/monash-caulfield.jpg

SIMS, right on the South East corner of the roundabout could go 10+ levels and a lower building closer to the rail line - easily, the shadows at 1pm in July would reach down towards the Franga junction (that aerial looks to be taken around 1pm). Likewise the site on the South West corner of the roundabout could also go higher.

And don't forget the station itself - (they'll need to move it closer to the city if they want to sort out the Franga junction in the years to come, i.e with flyovers) and integration with the Caulfield Plaza and car park site would probably be the best thing that happened to Monash Uni!

You can also see a car park right next to the pub on Watletree Road & Princes HWY - 5-8 levels there again.

$0.02

I think the problem with the SIMS site is the overshadowing of the public park to the east (I also think they should also keep the tennis courts and upgrade them). Thats why I think a low rise there would be best with a high rise on the Railway Maintenance site which would only overshadow the train lines.

http://www.grosswaddell.com.au/media/auction/107neerim/images/107neerim_01.jpghttp://www.grosswaddell.com.au/media/auction/107neerim/images/107neerim_02.jpg
http://www.grosswaddell.com.au/media/auction/107neerim/images/107neerim_03.jpghttp://www.grosswaddell.com.au/media/auction/107neerim/images/107neerim_04.jpg

http://www.grosswaddell.com.au/media/auction/107neerim/images/107neerim2_01.jpghttp://www.grosswaddell.com.au/media/auction/107neerim/images/107neerim2_02.jpg

its all happening!!!! ahhhhhh i live near there

also theres a new 7O signs of things to come just hope its innovative stuff...

prays :sleepy:

Coles' lease is up or is about to expire and Monash don't want to renew it ;)

Well, lets hope they don't, and we see some plans for that site soon. Although I have some doubts that construction would start before completition of the new academic building currently going up, so maybe at start of 2006 or so?

stu

holy crap - look at that aerial......

sakor: I also doubt anything would start before the new Ac. building goes up - scheduled to finish late 2005 from memory. Hopefully I'll have gradudated by then ;)

holy crap - look at that aerial......

sakor: I also doubt anything would start before the new Ac. building goes up - scheduled to finish late 2005 from memory. Hopefully I'll have gradudated by then ;)

I know, I was thinking that is a fantastic aerial, it is a pity that is is somewhat obscured. With all luck I'll be finished up in my course by the time it is ready as well!

stu

Mobile crane and putzmeister on site nextdoor to Tetley / South Yarra Station.

Mobile crane and putzmeister on site nextdoor to Tetley / South Yarra Station.

i saw a yellow sign in smith st guess who the applicant was.........

south yarra station development blah blah so hmmm

wha??

im guessing there is a company already set up for south yarra station even if they arnt launching a application yet....

VCAT has approved the Bates Smart 199-apartment 16L + 10L design for Mitcham

excellent design, but the shit's going to hit the fan now!

I am glad VCAT did the right things this time!

hmm SY station hey? that blank patch has been there awhile the building was demolished ages ago.
i wonder if anyone will plan to build over SY station, like the platforms and have the entrance still where it is, could be a good spot, but the platforms would have to be good to be under a building. and the tracks would just stick out the building lol.

News on Development at Caulfield! I've typed out what was in this weeks Stonnington Leader, front page

$40m car park sale

PHIL FIELDING

THE members' car parks at Caulfield Racecourse will be sold for more than $40m.
The 4ha site, bounded by Normanby Rd and Smith, Heywood and Bond streets, will become a new housing and business precinct. The car parks are owned by the Melbourne Racing Club and used for 10 meetings a year, including the Caulfield Cup.
One is leased by Monash University for student parking.
The racecourse is the border between Stonnington and Glen Eira.
State Planning Minister Mary Delahunty said a planning amendment had been passed to to make way for development of the site.
Ms Delahunty said the amendment - which will see the precinct divided into six areas covering the two car parks, Caulfield train station, the racecourse and Monash University - would bring new life into the area.
"This amendment is the first step in what will be a long-term process," Ms Delahunty said.
"The Melbourne Racing Club is about to undertake a masterplan that will flesh out the details, including how the racecourse will provide for its future car parking needs."
The minister described Glen Eira Council's plans for the area as "a very strong symbol of urban renewal" and "a good example of Melbourne 2030 in action".
Glen Eira Mayor Bob Bury said a new Monash University building that was under construction in Caulfield would include underground car parking.
That meant the university would no longer need to lease the racecourse car park, he said.
Cr Bury said the Zagame Corporation, which runs a chain of Melbourne hotels and gambling venues, had shown interest in the site and had "some big plans".
Melbourne Racing Club deputy Cheif executive John Noy said the sale of the members' car parks would be financially beneficial to the club, but that any plans for the site would need to include car parking.
"We are mindful that we need a car park" he said.

I particularly like the sounds of those "big plans", but surely anything will be a boost over the current wasted space... And I didn't know there was underground parking at the new academic building, perhaps they meant the multi-storey car park going up next to it. Anyway, altering tays pic from earlier, shaded in Blue are the car parks in question.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/skortum/monash-caulfield.jpg

stu

And here's what I think they should do to the station:

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/monash-caulfieldstation.jpg

Move the whole station towards the city, demolish current terminals, rebuild in two island platform configuration, two access points on to platforms, one at the down end and one at the up end - up end will bring the trams to within 10 metres of the platform on Sir John Monash Drive and the down end platforms coupled with a development of the car park will bring monash right to the doorstep of the station.

thanks for typing the article out sakor ;)

The station could really use a move like that, but that is not something I can see happenning I'm afraid, at least for the forseeable future :(. Anyway, no probs typing out the article, I found it a good little read ;)
stu

When I read that article in my local paper, I coudl hear all the people in East Malvern saying "nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo" and me saying "yessssssssssssssssssssssssss" and the developers saying "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$" and the council saying "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$"

:lol:
Too right
stu

VCAT have also approved a 10 storey tower in Frankston, the first of many :-)

well yeah, Frankston was named best place to live in the world or something like that. really weird. if it was in Melb i thought it would of been in Toorak, and well in '06 Eureka :P

Let's go around the metro and look at all the potential high-rse cluster which will no doubt follow in the coming years, with Dan's cam ;)

Doncaster
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2004-09-17%20Melbourne%20-%20Swanston%20St,%20Rialto,%20Collins%20St%20and%20Docklands/IMG_1010.jpg

Caulfield & Dandenong (plus the CBD and they're all in allignment :))

http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2004-09-17%20Melbourne%20-%20Swanston%20St,%20Rialto,%20Collins%20St%20and%20Docklands/IMG_1012.jpg

Moorabbin & Southland:

http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2004-08-28%20Melbourne%20-%20Kings%20Domain,%20Fed%20Sq,%20Flinders%20Lane%20and%20Rialto%20obs%20deck/IMG_0446.jpg

& Moonee Ponds takes the lead:

http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2004-09-17%20Melbourne%20-%20Swanston%20St,%20Rialto,%20Collins%20St%20and%20Docklands/IMG_1016.jpg

I've missed a few in the north and east, however I only really wanted to pimp dan's photos :)

Doncaster... there are plans for a 13 story apartment tower, it mgiht be 10, but i know its quite a few levels.
My friend from schhol, lives on a big block of land, right behind one of the already existing towers. His dad and there nextdoor neighbours plan to redevelop. Already form there 1 story house, you get a great veiw of the city from the balcony. And the reason why it might be able to go ahead is because there is a massive park accross the road, so no one will get overshadowd exept the other building. I dont know if it will go ahead and if it does it would get a permit in like 2 years or so. I shall talk to my friend after the holidays.

just on Caulfield again: if you go to Caulfield's homepage: http://monash.edu.au/campuses/caulfield/ you'll see on the right hand menu "Caulfield Campus Urban Plan executive summary" - it used to link to a PDF (That I'm now not able to get :() but it detailed the overview Monash has for the campus.

In short: The car park in between the station and the Monash-owned Plaza and the plaza itself is earmarked for student residential accomodation - they're calling it 'the west end' precinct of the campus, and from memory there were one or two more academic buildings planned.

they might have taken the Exec Sum down as they might be putting the whole plan up, dunno - b ut I've whitnessed (just briefly!) what they're planning for the University :)

Yeah i would like to see Caulfield going up in the world, because when i'm bored waiting for my train at Glenhuntly i can look northwest and see the Uni. and if there were about 3-4 more of the buildings around the same height as the one already there, it should e cool.

What a nice surprise!

This only just one or two weeks after Caulfield's high-density plan gets released ;)

Here we go ladies and gents:

10 level building proposed on the North West corner of Queens Ave & Sir John Monash Drive

was just walking back from getting some lunch (yer at uni on a saturday :() and saw the Yellow Planning Application advertisement in the Malaya Café's window (the building that currently exists on site).

In a nutshell: 'a building for student amenities (probably an extension to the Gryph Inn nextdoor & much more retail), reduction in car parking (only like 4 spots on site anyhow), basement delivery entry (under Building N) and student accomodation'

10, although accomodation would put it higher than Building B (North East corner of Queens Ave and Sir John Monash Drive). The site is very slim, so it'll be a tight squeeze - bulk bulk bulk! 2 10 level buildings in 2 years (and one is currently U/C!)

weeeee!

sakor: do you have any pics of the Malaya Café?

Wow, that is a really 'slim' site as you said, so that is a great bulk-up... One would hope that panning goes through and gets approved swiftly! Neway, don't have a pic of it now, I might snap one on Monday just to show the site ay.
Cheers,
stu

using the previous aerial, fleuro green = the 'slim' site - what makes it smaller is one of the lecture theatres that overhangs the site! no idea how they're going to get around that.

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/monashnewres.jpg

The red block is going by my memory from looking at the executive summary of the urban plan, they had footprints there and 3 (again, from memory) over the plaza and car park - the red block is now two old houses which will look (and do somewhat now) out of place once the new buildings are up.

very interesting tayser!

just praying for a good design

hehe:

Broadmeadows: (http://www.dse.vic.gov.au/dse/nrenpl.nsf/FID/-23201B02FD5CF5BACA256D480003CF04?OpenDocument)

http://www.dse.vic.gov.au/CA25677D007DC87D/LUbyDesc/Broadmeadows+Masterplan/$File/Broadmeadows+masterplan.jpg

!

Also worthy noting that Box Hill, Ringwood, Epping and Footscray all have similar plans (probably smaller?) to Dandenong's in the draft stage.

Ok, took a few pictures up at Uni today. Below I have provided for your pleasure two shots of the Malaya Cafe (which as Tays mentioned will hopefully be banished in favour of that 10 storey development). I have also posted a few current shots of the Academic Building and carpark progess. Dear God am I in love with that glass.... it is incredibly reflective, you can see N block in it clear as day (I took a close up of that too). Anyway, enough from me:

Front of Malaya Cafe (yes it is that tiny pinkish building)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/skortum/malaya.jpg

Back of Malaya Cafe from the walkway (clearly you can see how narrow the site is)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/skortum/malaya4.jpg

<3 the glass
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/skortum/reflect2.jpg

From across the road
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/skortum/academic2.jpg

stu

Haven't heard anything about the Royal Domain Tower for a long time (2 years I think...) Is this project shelved??

Haven't heard anything about the Royal Domain Tower for a long time (2 years I think...) Is this project shelved??

No, its powering along, well into construction now... it has a separate topic by the way:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=2227865

stu

woooooot, thanks for that stu ;)

10 levels would definitely put it way up there among the tallest on the campus.

No probs ;). 10 Levels would make it the tallest at Caulfield wouldn't it? S Block is currently at 9 levels, what is the new academic building? About 10 as well isn't it? In any case, pending a good design, it will be a fantastic addition to campus! Next is T Block (SIMS), get that old derelict knocked down and another 10+ level tower in and we are really talking :righton:
stu

I have to say the Synchrotron is a piece of crap. For such a scientific buidling you think they could do better than a blue corragated iron round shed.

hey our unis are churning out good archiworks! and the new box hill tafe building on the corner of whitehorse rd and elgar rd (including overhead bridge) is likely to win some archi awards IMHO. there's an old 80s office block on the opposite corner which it sort of mirrors in terms of the angled/faceted facade. can anyone get pics?

I have to say the Synchrotron is a piece of crap. For such a scientific buidling you think they could do better than a blue corragated iron round shed.
i tried looking up old pages but i can't find a pic...somebody pls help...

The Synchrotron is basically an indiustrial building, I doubt that a ground breaking architectural design was high on the list of priorities.

http://www.synchrotron.vic.gov.au/retrievemedia.asp?Media_ID=1376

http://www.synchrotron.vic.gov.au/files/images/2004_09_10_a_full.jpg

http://www.synchrotron.vic.gov.au/files/images/2004_09_10_h_full.jpg

http://www.synchrotron.vic.gov.au/files/images/2004_07_23_a_full.jpg

http://www.synchrotron.vic.gov.au/files/images/2004_07_aerial_p_full.jpg

http://www.synchrotron.vic.gov.au/files/images/2004_07_aerial_al_full.jpg

http://www.synchrotron.vic.gov.au/files/images/2004_07_aerial_a_full.jpg

I just think they could've done better. It's not as bad from a distance as it is up close.

Check out the Monash density too. Gogogogo gadget uni.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527937222.html

Beware, a new bent on block
By Royce Millar
October 2, 2004

Melbourne is suffering from a new anti-development syndrome even more lethal than the NIMBY (not in my backyard) ailment of the past.

The :banana: (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody) phenomenon is now an obstacle to well-planned development and threatens to undermine the State Government's Melbourne 2030 strategy, says the Planning Institute of Australia.

In a speech to an international housing conference, institute president Marcus Spiller said state governments would struggle to combat the :banana: syndrome without help from the Commonwealth.

He called on the next federal government - Liberal or Labor - to introduce a national urban sustainability charter, under which it would financially reward states that adopt and meet environmental targets.

Urban consolidation - the main aim of 2030 - would be central to such a charter.

Mr Spiller likened his proposal to the National Compulsory Policy, which rewards state and local governments for scrapping uncompetitive practices.

Mr Spiller said neither major political party had spelt out detailed urban policies necessary to encourage states to realise plans such as 2030.

"We have seen time and time again that states cannot go it alone in bringing about sustainable cities," he said. "The states are just too politically exposed to the NIMBY, or even :banana:, phenomenon."

He also warned of the NOTE (not over there either) bug. Both acronyms originated in the United States.

:hilarious

Camberwell Station may get housing (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527941898.html)
The Age (www.theage.com.au)
By James Button, Royce Millar
2 October 2004

A building of five storeys or higher, possibly containing housing, is one of the proposals Boroondara Council is considering for the controversial redevelopment of Camberwell Station.

Of the two options that a council working group will release next week, one proposes no development - which is close to the preferred position of the powerful local resident group.

The other raises the possibility of a development no higher than the adjacent five-storey Qantas building, unless it is of "exceptional design".

The emergence of housing as an option is significant because the original site plan, produced for the Government authority VicTrack, deemed housing to be commercially unviable.

But in August, Planning Minister Mary Delahunty said she expected VicTrack to investigate the feasibility of including housing in the final design.

Greater housing density in activity centres such as Camberwell Junction is central to the State Government's 2030 plan

Mary Drost, of the Boroondara Residents Action Group, said residents were "categorically" opposed to housing on the site, wanting only a "very low-key beautification of the area".

Council planning director Phil Storer said the working group did not have a view about the best option for the site. However, the council believed that a public square should be part of any development. "We all agree that the junction is sadly lacking in public space."

After a public consultation period of three weeks, the working group will make a final recommendation this year.

Delahunty urged to act on towers (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527937197.html)
The Age (wwwthe.age.com.au)
By Royce Millar, Martin Boulton
2 October 2004

Planning Minister Mary Delahunty is under mounting pressure over the Government's Melbourne 2030 planning blueprint as councils across Melbourne demand that she intervene to block a spate of suburban high-rise towers.

Yesterday Ms Delahunty announced a panel to advise her and local councils on major and contentious developments, in part a response to the current planning storm.

Councils say they want the minister to call in (take the final decision on) high-rise projects to prevent repeats of last month's Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal's approval of controversial apartment towers at Mitcham.

The Government and local residents were stunned when the tribunal approved the 17-storey and 11-storey Mitcham towers in low-rise Mitcham, in the City of Whitehorse, in the name of 2030.

The same week the tribunal approved a 10-level tower in Lygon Street, Brunswick.

Moreland Council says it will now ask Ms Delahunty to call in every project rejected by the council that exceeds local height limits. Already the council has sought the minister's intervention on a dual 17-level apartment complex in Glenroy and a row of five-storey buildings in Stewart Street, Brunswick.

Moreland planning spokesman Robert Larocca said that the council supported 2030, but said the tribunal was giving the plan "a bad name".

Monash Council has also asked the Government to call in plans for an $85 million, nine-storey residential building in Wheelers Hill called The Peak.

This week the Hobsons Bay council asked Ms Delahunty to declare a 12-month moratorium on development over three levels in commercial areas of Williamstown.

Planning committee chairwoman Angela Altair said that if a moratorium was not declared the council would ask the minister to call in all problem projects.

In its April economic statement, the Government flagged the establishment of a panel to help speed up development of activity and transit centres under Melbourne 2030.

But the role of the panel has since expanded and Ms Delahunty yesterday said it would now include advising the minister on when to call in and how to deal with difficult development applications.

She said implementation of 2030 was "posing some challenges" and the Government wanted to ensure that 2030 proceeded "in partnership" with local councils. Ms Delahunty said the panel would give "flexible, adept and speedy" advice to the minister and to councils.

The panel will be chaired full-time by senior planning bureaucrat Paul Jerome. Other experts will join on a case-by-case basis.

tayser i think the cars should go underground! mabye ;)

this may sound weird but if you put these suburbn stations underground you also have to drop the train station level and well by about 4-5 metres ( no small feat ) because most of these stations are right next to crossings

also theres the out of sight out of mind theory burying these things if not done properly i can bet it will happen

again with also have the issue at melbourne central where you use to be able be of in the street in a matter of minutes...

now you have to weave through food and fashion multiple escalators in different directions slows things down hugely, they also do not have enough entry/exit ticket machines

this was not an accident but to make people slow down and spend money I dont mind if they do this but please have at least one quick exit like the one they destroyed

Here's the student accomodation proposal at Caulfield.

In short: 10 (squat!) levels, 33 metres, ground level will replace Malaya Cafe (probably still going to be Malaya Cafe), 61 units in all, 7 per floor from levels 1-7, 6 per floor thereafter. The units themselves remind me of the ones in the High-rises out at Clayton (wilson hall? I dunno), Bedroom with Bathroom / laundry attached in each unit. Exactly the same height as Building B across Queens Avenue.

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/projects/renders/greater/caulfield-monash1.jpg

The sites even skinnier than I thought, there's about a 1.5 metre gap between building K (odd-shaped lecture theatres) and this paper thin high-rise.

I didn't read too much into it, but I have no idea if Monash themselves are developing this or someone else, the architect was someone based in South Yarra (name escapes me). I read on the plans 'painted concrete' and groaned and then read dark reflective glass for windows and balconies and wondered how the hell that would work. Many references to the bleak concrete that is around the place (I never really noticed how they justify materials by comparing to the context) etc etc.

Just hoping that the stuff which was earmarked in the urban plan up around the plaza is a little more inspiring than this, still though, much needed accomodation for the area.

The most interesting I found bout this application was that it was ammended after the GECC unveiled their 'Phoenix Precinct Policy' - I couldn't see the original but I'd hazard a guess and say that this was increased (# of units, height / whatever) after that policy (basically Caulfield's transit city framework) was released.

At least these plans are showing signs of initial progress and they're not just white elephants!

Christ it certainly will be thin.... but the main thing as you said Tays, at least this one ain't a white elephant it seems ;). All we can hope for is some more..... interesting..... proposals than this one for the rest of the area in the near future, I mean, painted concrete is such a cop out especially considering the excuse.

stu

http://afr.com/premium/articles/2004/10/07/1097089490643.html [Premium]

Four bids for $200m city centre project Premium
Nicole Lindsay

Four major property groups are in the running to win a $200 million tender to redevelop the city centre of Greensborough about 20 kilometres north-east of Melbourne's CBD.

The shortlisted groups will now have to produce more detailed plans before Banyule City Council picks its preferred developer in mid-2005.

Investment banker NM Rothschild has teamed up with Cox Architects, Arup Engineering, Macroplan and Consolidated Properties.

Lend Lease and Deutsche Bank, which jointly own the nearby Greensborough Plaza, have put in a bid with Australian Prime Property Funds.

The James Fielding Group has partnered with Urbis JHD, and Lorenz Grollo's Equiset Developments is working with Prior Cheney Architects, Sinclair Knight Merz, EDAW and Gillespies.

The council's city development director, Simon McMillan, said the shortlisted parties were chosen from six that answered an expressions of interest campaign, largely because of the detail in their responses.

The proposal for the new city centre addresses the Bracks government's demands on local councils under its planning blueprint Melbourne 2030.

Planning minister Mary Delahunty said: "I'm not surprised that Banyule had been absolutely overwhelmed by consortiums wanting to get involved in this project."

Banyule was one of the first councils to prepare a structure plan that sets out how development should occur in specific areas.

Under Melbourne 2030, Greensborough is a principal activity centre, which means it will attract high-density residential and commercial development. Its orderly transformation is in stark contrast with the effects of Melbourne 2030 on other parts of the city.

Victoria's planning appeals body, the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal has been approving high-rise developments in areas without structure plans in place.

The most recent approval happened in Mitcham in the eastern suburbs where a developer is planning twin 11- and 17-storey towers.

The state government has offered areas which have started on structure plans interim controls to stop undesirable development occurring before the plans are in place.

The multimillion-dollar revamp at Greensborough is centred on a 40 hectare site in the hilly city centre, most of which is owned by the city council, which includes a railway station, an outdoor 50 metre swimming pool, car parks and the Greensborough Shopping Plaza.

Mr McMillan said a new aquatic centre with a 50 metre pool is a critical part of the new development.

"The community has indicated that an aquatic centre is important to them. A 50 metre pool is quite rare these days and it will make this a regional centre for swimming."

who ever drew those drawings needs a good slapping...!!!!


i dont even know where to start but they look like a 2 year old drew em...

what ever you do dont buy an apartment in this place....

tayser what scale they at???



:weirdo: :weirdo: :weirdo: :weirdo: :weirdo: :weirdo: :weirdo: :weirdo:

who ever drew those drawings needs a good slapping...!!!!


i dont even know where to start but they look like a 2 year old drew em...

what ever you do dont buy an apartment in this place....

tayser what scale they at???

Yeah, they ain't the best drawn plans going around. But they won't be up for sale anyway, they are intended as student accomodation for students on the Monash Caulfield Campus, so will be owned and rented out by the Uni I would say.

stu

Sakor1, i like the pic of the campus in your avatar (see it everyday on the train) looks cool.

The building is sure thin, i think it could of been 2 floors taller, without anyone complaining too much. oh well, still an alright building for that chunk of land, well lack of land.

Sakor1, i like the pic of the campus in your avatar (see it everyday on the train) looks cool.

Thanks :). Adapted from one of the photos I took around campus.

Cheers,
stu

The Chevron (http://www.thechevron.com)

greater melb's tallest for the time being, not too bad

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/mdo200410.jpg

:banana2:

while we're no the topic of Moonee Ponds, has Moonee Valley CC done G. Dandy, Banyule, Glen Eira et al and got a structure plan in place yet?

I don't remember reading anything with regards to a structure plan when we were looking through a few of the 'Ponds proposals back in July, silvermb?

regardless, I'm impressed if the stuff that's proposed over there has been approved based on other means (or something that doesn't directly relate to Melb2030)!

forgot to mention Mondo's crane is slightly off perpendicular, has a slight lean to the east; very visible from Mt Alexander rd/Buckley St...a little strange.

tayser Moonee Valley is formulating MV2020, stay tuned but sites for towers have already been established

one for you train-traveller, where's caulfield medical centre, near monash?. its subject to a $120 million redevelopement into mixed-use

Glen Eira needs to get its act together. noth major planned around my part of Glen Eira.
If i am correct, the Caulfield is on kooyong road, just off Glenhuntly road in South caulfield.

^ I doubt much else apart from the 'Phonenix' precinct will see much in Glen Eira - the rest of the municipality has no land left and is full of 'I love to go home to the suburbs in Malvern & Caulfield - Fraser / Menzies' types that would rather throw themselves infront of a train than have a 3 level block of flats looking over into the rose gardens.

well, slight exageration as Hawthorn Road is fairly tightly packed with the 60s/70s walk ups and a fair bit of modern gated apartments, but you get my drift: Caulfield's too far away for anyone to care :lol: thus it'll probably be the only place that'll see anything decent, not that 3 levels in normal suburban streets isn't decent, just gated crap isn't.

stop ranting tayser.

ok.

silvermb: thanks & I have no idea bout the medical centre. A. Steve posted an aerial of a massive site next to Glenhuntly station a page or two back *shrug*

:)

The site next to Glenhuntly Safeway, is turning into Townhouses, and a shopping/office center, i pass it everyday while waiting to get off the train. But Its ment to be three levels, and maybe an open 'garden' type cafe area. It is being built on the site of the old council storage place (trucks, road signs, and stuff)
That is quite major for Glenhuntly, their trying to get people who hop off the train, and go straight to the tram, to stop and shop.

EDIT: its here, the red patch, and also the dirt next to it. Construction on the townhouses has started, no idea when they will start the complex.
http://www.grosswaddell.com.au/media/auction/107neerim/images/107neerim_03.jpg
http://www.grosswaddell.com.au/media/auction/107neerim/images/107neerim2_01.jpg
Both posted by Aussie steve a few pages back ^^
EDIT2: hmm the pics are cut out :/ well look back a few pages (page 13 i think) and see for yourself.

Moonee Ponds View (soon to be blocked by new towers?):

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/7055/101937055ml1097687743.jpg

Just a thought????? Why is everyone..........except a few of you guys so paranoid about Density or height in the greater Melbourne area. This is a sprawling city. OK on a world scale we have reasonable public transport and road systems...... If you compare with cities around the world most have much higher density than we do. If centers are near a railway hub why not allow taller towers for residential or Offices???? Or accept that our city will spread far beyond its current boundaries. If you go to any fringe area you will see more housing estates..........infrustructure is required at great cost. I lived in South Yarra and was surprised to see single story residents objecting to 2nd story additions to their neighbours. Can we afford the luxury of that. OK in some areas we need to keep the character of terraces etc. so I am not for the destruction of many of Melbournes suburbs, but selected areas should be available for development. Landmark towers,in the right location, designed well need not be the disaster we hear on the nightly news

Grollo: yep, that car park has at least two (silvermb?) towers proposed, or at least it had MVCC had them back in June/July.

OK on a world scale we have reasonable public transport

incorrect.

Actor Rush lifts lid on Camberwell station plan (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/17/1097951560203.html)
The Age (www.theage.com.au)
By Chris Evans
18 October 2004

Melbourne actor Geoffrey Rush and the Boroondara Residents Action Group have unveiled their own alternative to the giant retail and residential development the State Government has proposed to build over the Camberwell railway station.

Designed by landscape architect Elizabeth Peck and her husband, Michael, of Albert Park, their alternative would see the construction of a public park and restaurant over what would remain the station's car park.

Rush, an Academy Award-winner, dubbed the likely impact of the State Government's preferred development proposal "Godzilla's footprint" with all the character and charm of mid-1960s "box" architecture.

In unveiling an architectural model commissioned by the action group, he ceremoniously lifted the "Godzilla" building off the landscape, "like the lid of an old Sunbeam frying pan", to reveal the group's alternative vision for central Camberwell instead.

The architects, while not present for the launch, describe their projection as one for a friendly and safe meeting place with sunlit open space in which the historic railway station would be preserved.

It would also provide for pedestrian links between Burke Road, Railway Parade and Camberwell station. They also emphasise that their plan would see important vistas retained.

Action group president Ian Angus said that more than 80 activist groups from across Melbourne were represented at yesterday's launch, including one from St Albans, which would welcome a major commercial developmentover its own railway station in Melbourne's outer north-west.

Boroondara City Council will accept public responses to the various development proposals until Friday.

_________________________________________________

Geoffrey Rush locks horns with Godzilla (http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,11103206%255E2862,00.html)

Herald Sun (www.heraldsun.com.au)
John Masanauskas
18 October 2004

ACTOR Geoffrey Rush yesterday unveiled an alternative plan to the controversial redevelopment of Camberwell station.

The Oscar-winning resident described a proposal for a multi-storey development over the historic station as "Godzilla's footprint".

Rush is a key activist in the Boroondara Residents Action Group, which has been fighting the redevelopment since last year.

Last May, Rush and fellow entertainer Barry Humphries led a protest of more than 1000 people against the project.

The State Government has earmarked air space above the station for commercial and residential development under its contentious 2030 planning policy.

Rush yesterday unveiled an architectural model that leaves the station intact while providing a park and modest retail area above the existing car park.

"The elegance of the vista . . . acknowledges what has been there in the past and what we like about it," he told a residents' meeting at the Camberwell Civic Centre.

"(It will) provide a gateway to the marvels of Camberwell junction and the uniqueness of its strip shopping."

Rush said BRAG's plan was an alternative to the "short-term, fast-buck mentality" of a commercial redevelopment.

Boroondara Council is considering two options for the site -- no development, or a building of five storeys or higher.

Residents and traders have until this Friday to comment on the options.

Opposition planning spokesman Ted Ballieu supported BRAG's proposal. "It's right for the station, its right for the heritage area and it preserves an important separation for the residential area from the consolidated commercial district," he said.

"If the Government chooses to ignore them, they're going to have a hell of a battle."

BRAG has also won qualified support from building unions.

Trades Hall building industry group chairman Brian Boyd said residents must be treated properly in the planning process.

"Building unions have said residents deserve as much consultation as possible from the State Government," he said.

But Mr Boyd said unions were not considering any bans on redevelopment work.

______________________________________________________

Did anyone see the news last night? The proposal by Mr Rush is very very poor, in fact, its awful, dead open space!

i want pics!

Good, they've finally stopped whinging and done something constructive. I only hope this plan includes a new entrance direct from Burke Rd.

$40m training home for fire brigade (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/18/1097951628100.html)
The Age (www.theage.com.au)
By Martin Boulton
19 October 2004

A $40 million training centre for the Metropolitan Fire Brigade will be built in Burnley after the sale of its old site in Abbotsford. Development company Salta Properties paid $20 million for the 30-year-old building and $26.5 million for 56 hectares of vacant MFB land in Sunshine West.

The brigade was facing a $1 million bill to remove asbestos from its old building, which was used to train firefighters since 1973.

Deputy chief fire officer Keith Adamson said the new centre, on the old Transfield site at the corner of Burnley Street and Barkly Avenue, should be built within three years. "We monitored the asbestos in the building constantly . . . and the cost of stripping all of the asbestos out of the building basically meant going back to brick and concrete," he said.

"On top of that the area is becoming quite sensitive, in terms of new development, so we decided it was better to build a state-of-the-art facility somewhere else."

Fire sale clears way for new-look Richmond (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/18/1097951628097.html)
The Age (www.theage.com.au)
By Martin Boulton
19 October 2004

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/18/richmond_wideweb__430x287.jpg
Developer Sam Tarascio outside the old fire brigade building in Richmond.
Photo: Paul Harris


A bold plan to create a new retail, residential and commercial gateway to Richmond is a step closer following the sale of the former Metropolitan Fire Brigade training site in Abbotsford.

Salta Properties - which built the adjacent Victoria Gardens retail and residential complex - has paid $20 million for the site. The company now owns land on every corner of the busy intersection of Victoria, Burnley and Walmer streets.

General manager Sam Tarascio said securing the MFB site was part of a long-term plan to gain control of the Victoria Street precinct. The company would now develop a master plan for the area, aimed at integrating new development in line with the Yarra Council's framework.

"We're looking at it as a total development," Mr Tarascio said. "We've been accumulating all this property around Victoria Gardens . . . now it's all falling into place."

He said the company planned to spend $300 million on a retail, residential and commercial development on the 17,000 square metres of former fire brigade land, which backs on to the Yarra River.

"It was always our long-term ambition to control the area, all the corners around Victoria Gardens," he said. "That's been achieved."

He said plans for the 27,000 square metres in Burnley Street (opposite Victoria Gardens) would depend on whether the land was rezoned from residential to mixed use. The council will discuss it next month.

The company's application for an eight-storey office building at the corner of Walmer and Victoria streets was rejected by the council. The company will appeal against the decision at the state's planning tribunal in December.

The Victoria Street east precinct is one of the major activity centres identified in Melbourne 2030 - the Government's planning blueprint for higher-density development in metropolitan Melbourne.

The council's urban design framework confirms that the precinct will experience "significant change" in future, but emphasises that development should be "constrained" to help protect river corridors.

A planning amendment to enhance protection along river corridors is being considered by a government-appointed panel.

"The Yarra River corridor is the most significant public space in the precinct," the council said. "Management and improvements should be supported by the State Government."

Mayor Kay Meadows said the council supported a mix of land uses and modern development on the former industrial sites lining the river. But it also wanted new buildings to respect established residential neighbourhoods, including west of Burnley Street, next to land owned by Salta Properties.

Cr Meadows told The Age the key issues facing the Victoria Street precinct were building setback from the river, more bicycle and walking links and better public transport.

"We're having some traffic work done in Burnley Street, but won't support any road widening in Victoria Street," she said. "What we'll be seeking is better public transport. More road space just leads to more traffic, we know that."

couple of rarely seen projects

barrett apartments, getting there
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/brt200410.jpg

X_Change@Swinburne, not a bad job; sit on your rear-end most of the day, the guy on the left in the bottom pic with the pushabout trowel is wondering how he got the raw end
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/@200410.jpg

X_Change@Swinburne, not a bad job; sit on your rear-end most of the day, the guy on the left in the bottom pic with the pushabout trowel is wondering how he got the raw end

now now, don't make lozza give you a lecture ;)

not bad for Swinb0rk:

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/swinbork.jpg

Whilst we're on Universities: I'll have Caulfield's new academic building to blame if I fail one of my subjects this semester - had interviews just this week in the S block tower with a prime view directly at the site, I was more interested in the two cranes madly working rather than 'reflecting on 2nd year studio work' *wank wank*.

Whilst we're on Universities: I'll have Caulfield's new academic building to blame if I fail one of my subjects this semester - had interviews just this week in the S block tower with a prime view directly at the site, I was more interested in the two cranes madly working rather than 'reflecting on 2nd year studio work' *wank wank*.

That was my excuse, get your own ;). For the past couple weeks I have been too distracted by all the purdy reflections in the glass of the new building to study... not to mention all the activity going on.... :tongue4:

Stu

How many levels is that Swinburn Uni building? I can't quite make it out!

From the perspective it looks to be about 8 levels?

Stu

I finally got around to getting a hold of the Caulfield Urban Plan Exec. Sum.

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/caulfieldplan.jpg

In Summary:

New 'gateway' to the campus from the North & Dandenong Road
Sir John Monash drive looks to be made into a local road only.
The Walkways look to be removed and the main access to the campus moved to ground level (I'd love to see what they're going to do around the Library & B / C blocks!)
Two old houses in the middle of the campus gone, making way for a central common that has moved once again
Central access Road removed
Plaza car park built over
Plaza building removed and multiple buildings replace it
Better linkages to Caulfield Station.

I haven't seen anything else on it, however the exec sum is from 2003, dunno if Monash have endorsed it though!

Don't know if you guys will remember me, but gooday again anyways heard they wanted to build a few 8 story buildings in Boronia, might be a rumour but I hope so:D

I finally got around to getting a hold of the Caulfield Urban Plan Exec. Sum.

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/caulfieldplan.jpg

In Summary:

New 'gateway' to the campus from the North & Dandenong Road
Sir John Monash drive looks to be made into a local road only.
The Walkways look to be removed and the main access to the campus moved to ground level (I'd love to see what they're going to do around the Library & B / C blocks!)
Two old houses in the middle of the campus gone, making way for a central common that has moved once again
Central access Road removed
Plaza car park built over
Plaza building removed and multiple buildings replace it
Better linkages to Caulfield Station.

I haven't seen anything else on it, however the exec sum is from 2003, dunno if Monash have endorsed it though!


:eek2: Awesome, simply awesome. Pity I won't be around to see it all in action (hoping it goes through), but that would be a huge and I suggest very lengthy expansion. I also wouldn't mind seeing how they would manage to convert it to ground level... personally I think that walkway works fantastically well (if needing a little beautification), but would be intriging to see how they do it. It also clears in my mind why they made that tacky, temporary and horrible looking extension being the new student service centre if it would eventually be replaced ;).

Stu

nah the new service centre's ok - but that's just that, it looks very temporary!

other misc stats from the Exec Sum:

Monash want to add 50% more academic / general use space ( :eek2: ) to the whole campus, which is just - f**king mindboggling when you try and think of where it's all going to go
The West End (plaza) will be 24/7 residential, retail and other commercial interests.

the two main things which weren't obvious is why F Block (1950s building) and T Block (Sims) are in the yellow colour on that image above - I doubt much could happen to F block as that would surely be heritage protected? T Block is anyone's guess.

This is all over 10-15 years btw.

lol welcome back proudmelbourneguy - haven't seen you since Bourke Place! :)

F block... perhaps internal renovations? Not much they could do externally (doesn't matter as it looks great anyhow ;)) but it is sure due for an update inside in several places... not sure what they would do though. As for T-block, where do you start? Get rid of the whole bloody thin IMHO, lol.

And the service centre.... maybe OK standalone, my major beef is that it is totally out of character with the building it is attached too, it looks temporary and out of place.... and bloody bleak too compared to the rest of the colour around campus don't ya reckon ;).

Stu

Level 3 in F has only just been recently renovated I think? go up there and have a look, the Mech. Eng. school office is very slick, and the whole floor is fairly cool too - I've not been to the floor above or below that though (had a tute in there last sem).

OK, haven't been level 3.... but ground and level 1 are pretty sore (have tute in there). But seeing as the whole thing is a long term plan, may be something undertaken after some more academic buildings are finished to pick up the slack whilst it's being fixed up? Dunno, it's all speculation isn't it, but hell its fun to think about :D

Stu

This is a great Master Plan for Monash Uni, Caulfield Campus. Now we need a Master Plan for the areas south of the train line!

DANDENONG:

Dandenong city is now to get a 15 level appartment tower on the corner of Walker and Thomas Street: 53 apartments including 1 penthouse, ground floor restaurant and s retail & 4 level carpark.

According to 1 council member of City of Greater Dandenong who I work with, he explained to me that Dandenong will approve anything if it's tall providing it meets appropriate criteria. If the design is good and will not have any bad effects on the CBD it will approve it even if it were to be 40 levels. The city is screaming for high rise because it's vision is to be Melbourne's second city! And to do so it needs a skyline! Eventually one day it may have a city skyline equal to what Adelaide's has today. Objective is a population of 7000 just in the Dandenong CBD!

FRANKSTONE:

VCAT approves a 10 story apartment tower on Clyde Street near station and council has accepted VCAT's decision and won't take it further.

The 12 story Peninsula centre on Nepean Highway built in 1980 said to be Melbourne's South East's ugliest building ever is to get a makeover in excess of $40 million turned into residential appartments, offices and a new shopping centre below!! According to council, more applications are on the way for medium highrise development for the CBD

GREAT NEWS FOR SUBURBAN MELBOUNRE

Don't know if you guys will remember me, but gooday again anyways heard they wanted to build a few 8 story buildings in Boronia, might be a rumour but I hope so:D

What? Housing commission? Jk, jk :) The main shopping centre in Boronia would need a bit of infrastructure to support extra cars in the area, but there is a train station and a cop shop right in the heart of the town.

Hi everyone,

I'm new to Ozscrapers and have been invited on by tayser, since he got sick of quoting me as the guy from Railpage everytime something from there about Dandenong was posted. :jk:

I have been observing the site for a little while and I have found it to be a great source of information so hopefully I can contribute a little as well. :)

On a light-hearted note I would like to recommend that the site next to the proposed building at 56-62 Walker Street Dandenong, which is locally known as GT (aka 'Golden Triangle Pool Parlour') should also have a similiar sized building built over the top of it, and the Golden Triangle Pool Parlour should become the Golden Triangle Restaurant, as it would be preferable that fish be chopped there rather than fingers. :jk:

my first $0.02

What? Housing commission? Jk, jk :) The main shopping centre in Boronia would need a bit of infrastructure to support extra cars in the area, but there is a train station and a cop shop right in the heart of the town.

lmao smartass:P Yeah definately, most of the people here wouldn't mind seeing the entire mall getting demolished and rebuilt, keeping some of the smaller shops.. People here in the outer eastern cannibis capital are crying out for some new infrastructure. In terms of the cop shop it is on the fringes of the shopping area along with the station and maccas.. You could develop towards ferntree gully down dorset... I've got a new camera so I'll have to show you guys some pics like I promised last time round:P

theres golden triangles everywhere....

nothing of interest as yet, just bare in mind the site is opposite 20-level flats and backs onto CityLink and is surrounded by offices, no overshadowing issues.
the mind boggles at what they could build here?


Property Description
Bensons Property Group is embarking on its largest project ever in Flemington by redeveloping of one of Melbourne's most prominent sites at the entrance to the CityLink expressway.

Formerly owned by Lombard the Paper People, who will occupy new premises in the development on Mount Alexander Road, the substantial sized site is an absolute gateway to Melbourne. Every visitor arriving from the Hume Highway, the Western Ring Road and Melbourne International Airport will drive past it.

Bensons Property Group understands the tremendous responsibility it has to deliver a visionary statement about Melbourne in this development.

The site is currently undergoing a rezoning application. A mix of retail, office and residential spaces is envisaged, with buildings arranged around a series of landscaped open spaces and internal avenues. The plan is to create a subtle, visual effect that will sit sensitively with the adjacent visually strong CityLink gateway elements. However some focal elements are also planned, incorporating technologies that will represent firsts for Australia.

^ ching.

Had a quick look on Mirvac's site, but couldn't find anything about it, perhaps a crane being borrowed from Mirvac?

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/canterburyproject.jpg

from the train at the up (city) end of Canterbury station (site looks to be facing Canterbury road)... ?

http://www.mirvac.com.au/forsale/VIC/Abingdon/images/temp_branding.gif (http://www.mirvac.com.au/forsale/VIC/Abingdon/index.html)

http://www.mirvac.com.au/forsale/VIC/Abingdon/images/sales_pic03.jpg http://www.mirvac.com.au/forsale/VIC/Abingdon/images/temp_pic04.jpg http://www.mirvac.com.au/forsale/VIC/Abingdon/images/sales_pic01.jpg

http://www.mirvac.com.au/forsale/VIC/Abingdon/images/location_pic04.jpghttp://www.mirvac.com.au/forsale/VIC/Abingdon/images/location_pic05.jpg

http://www.mirvac.com.au/forsale/VIC/Abingdon/images/location_map.gif

well at least someone has the patience to wade through the junk on Mirvac's site.

:runaway:

^ ching.

Had a quick look on Mirvac's site, but couldn't find anything about it, perhaps a crane being borrowed from Mirvac?

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/canterburyproject.jpg

from the train at the up (city) end of Canterbury station (site looks to be facing Canterbury road)... ?

I would bet $100 that this is the crane that was up in Swanston St just up from the gelati piece of crap early this year or late last year.

It is a Liebherr hammerhead, and is the only one up in Melb at the moment. It looks to have lots of boom, so I would guess that it is Lindores 290, somewhere on the cab there will be a blue and red LCR, same as the cranes at HWT, MC, Mondriane.

drove past Abington a while back, genuinely suprised to see this bulky project flanked by residential streets, really bringing it to suburbia! looks to be three building over a big footprint.

Caelli are doing all the construction but only have diesel-powered cranes so i guess they got a Lindores/electric so as not to ruffle the feathers of the well-heeled?

>>Doncaster Hill take 2

Queen Mary launched Donc Hill today with a media conference and a relaunched website, considering Queen Mary is behind it there shoudn't be too many obstacles toward the towers

major points include large public transport upgrade, 8000 residents and 150,000sqm of commercial and retail space

30-year donc hill strategy (tays loves it)
http://www.doncasterhill.com/KeyDocs_DHillStrategy_Docs.htm
18mb movie of new Donc Hill
www.iii.rmit.edu.au/ufl

anyway the 103,000sqm Westfield redevelopment is to start soon and the towers that were on the news were excellent

first pic shows tower/development sites
http://www.iii.rmit.edu.au/ufl/projects/manningham/1.gifhttp://www.iii.rmit.edu.au/ufl/projects/manningham/3.gifhttp://www.iii.rmit.edu.au/ufl/projects/manningham/5.gif



>>footscray skyline study
http://www.iii.rmit.edu.au/ufl/projects/maribyrnong/3.gifhttp://www.iii.rmit.edu.au/ufl/projects/maribyrnong/5.gif

Allegro Tower is at sales, a tower for the Barkly Hotel site and a massive development at the Kinnears site are also with council along with a few more around V.U.T


gpood to see plenty of councils devising strategies for highrises,at a stage in Melbourne where the Melb 2030 activity zones are just starting to move upwards

Doncaster still needs a rail line in one form or the other. Personally, I see suburbs such as Box Hill and Glenferrie taking off far quicker than Doncaster, even though Doncaster has been in the vision line for a while.

That looks really promising. It does need more transport links though...

Stu

What exactly has happened in Doncaster Hill in the past 12 months?

>>footscray skyline study
http://www.iii.rmit.edu.au/ufl/projects/maribyrnong/3.gifhttp://www.iii.rmit.edu.au/ufl/projects/maribyrnong/5.gif

Allegro Tower is at sales, a tower for the Barkly Hotel site and a massive development at the Kinnears site are also with council along with a few more around V.U.T


gpood to see plenty of councils devising strategies for highrises,at a stage in Melbourne where the Melb 2030 activity zones are just starting to move upwards[/QUOTE]

Yes I reckon that the Footscray area will be the "next big thing" in development in the close inner west it has all the infrastructure and an abundence of large former factory sites coming on stream for major residential projects.The council seems pretty positive and there are at the moment no powerfull local ratepayer groups aka the Carlton Association to put up any fight.

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Edited

drove past Abington a while back, genuinely suprised to see this bulky project flanked by residential streets, really bringing it to suburbia! looks to be three building over a big footprint.

Caelli are doing all the construction but only have diesel-powered cranes so i guess they got a Lindores/electric so as not to ruffle the feathers of the well-heeled?

Caelli's have a big Liebherr on the way to them right now. It is a 300t mobile crane. Should be here very soon, if not now.

Address: Puckle Street & Mt Alexander Road, Moonee Ponds, MELBOURNE

http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/JLL/JLL_42/300/JLL_42_34553_23461.jpg
Complete the Picture

Expressions of interest are being sought from capable and experienced parties to deliver, or partner in delivering, one of the most exciting mixed use development opportunities in metropolitan Melbourne. Lengthy pre commitment to Australia's largest retailers combined with existing development plan approvals leaves you to simply complete the picture.

Total m2: 13,026

Additional Information:
Lot 1
4 Hall Street, Moonee Ponds
3-7 Homer Street, Moonee Ponds
8-10 Aspen Street, Moonee Ponds
667-685 Mt Alexander Road, Moonee Ponds
A former Coles Supermarket and a bitumen car park adjoining the supermarket. The total site area is 10,500 sqm

Lot 2
21-31 Hall Street, Moonee Ponds - Comprises land used as bitumen sealed open paved carpark of 1,619 sqm

Lot 3
72-80 Puckle Street, Moonee Ponds - Comprises 4 shops fronting Puckle Street that are currently tenanted on a monthly basis

^ Continuing on with an abridged version from today's Fin. Review.

The report states that Coles Myer has gained approval to redevelop its site in Moonee Ponds for a mixed-use high-rise (no render/s as yet).

It's now seeking a developer for the 13,000 sq m site bounded by Puckle St and Mount Alexander Road.

The plan includes a 5000 sq m discount department store, 4800 sq m of specialty retail stores and 963 car spaces. Also to be included are 2000 sq m of office space and 254 apartments in a 14-level residential tower and a 3-level building.

An 187-unit 15-storey hotel is also part of the overall plan.

ahhh brilliant Aussie & Muse, the site north in this pic will also host a similar development in due course
http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/JLL/JLL_42/300/JLL_42_34553_23461.jpg

the revised plans tays and i picked up include the 15-level hotel plus 250-odd apartments in 3/10/15-level buildings as per the plans
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/cmmp.jpg

What's a Residentil tower? :lol:

^ hah

nicer render of Allegro in Foot-a-scray

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/4465/101984465ml1098918903.jpg

We need to get DAN (:D) to go here and take one big mutha pano with his cam:

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/7055/101937055ml1100269444.jpg

Time for an update of Monash Caulfield.

Couple of the Academic building
http://stuart.kortum.com.au/photos/albums/album02/constr1.jpg

http://stuart.kortum.com.au/photos/albums/album02/contructionaccross2.jpg

The carpark (with nice reflection :))
http://stuart.kortum.com.au/photos/albums/album02/carpark.jpg

Stu

Cannot wait for the glass on the carpark to get around to the south-western side, then i can see it from the train! nice pics. will the carpark go any higher? or is that the roof?

I think that is it for the carpark, at roof level now. They still have a lot of finishing work to do on it though. The Academic building has still got a long way to go, another 4 stories or so on top of its current level.

Stu

ahh good pics; no more glass on the carpark, just the metal fins seen in sakor's second pic (right).

any glass on a carpark is a rarity

Yep, just the 'fins' for car park externally now... but it still looks pretty damn good for a carpark. The Glass on these look amazing I tell you, uber reflective, and the colour shifts a bit from lighter to darker (as evidenced by looking at the first pic I posted compared to the other two).

Stu

When did the crane climb?????

Nice photo's Stu, the first one is a cracker.

http://afr.com/articles/2004/11/17/1100574501322.html

Babcock & Brown to develop Melbourne showgrounds
Nov 17 09:58
Dow

A joint venture involving investment bank Babcock & Brown has been appointed preferred bidder for the redevelopment of the Royal Melbourne Showgrounds.

PPP Solutions, a joint venture between Babcock and property trust Multiplex, will be redevelop and maintain the facilities over 25 years.

PPP Solutions' appointment by the Royal Agricultural Society of Victoria and the Victorian government is subject to agreement on the documentation.

Babcock & Brown is joint sponsor with Multiplex Infrastructure and will underwrite 50 per cent of the equity required by PPP Solutions for the project.

The Victorian government previously said it would contribute $101 million to the showground redevelopment as part of a joint venture with the Royal Agricultural Society of Victoria. The project is scheduled to be completed by 2006.

What is the project?

Show heritage at risk in development (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/11/17/1100574537133.html)
By Royce Millar
City Reporter - The Age
18 November 2004

Shoppers will get more space but sheep and cows will get much less under a redevelopment scheme for the Royal Melbourne Showgrounds chosen by the State Government.

The Government has signed an agreement with a preferred consortium made up of financier Babcock & Brown, builder Multiplex, and architect Daryl Jackson - known as PPP Solutions.

The redevelopment deal, a public-private partnership, will cost state taxpayers $101 million over 25 years.

But in a highly unusual move, the Government yesterday refused to discuss details. Usually an agreement on such a major project is accompanied by government chest-beating.

A well-placed source said last night that the Government's approach was because it was "running scared" over revelations by The Age about the former chairman of the redevelopment, ex-federal Labor MP and mate of Premier Steve Bracks, Neil O'Keefe. "Between you (The Age) and Louise Asher (the Opposition major projects spokeswoman) you've got them running scared," the source said.

The deal became public yesterday through a Babcock & Brown announcement to the Australian Stock Exchange.

Under the scheme, the 27-hectare Showgrounds will be divided into a core area to house the show and a non-core area that can be developed. The consortium would be entitled to use show facilities in the 50 weeks they are not used for the show.

Sources told The Age that under the scheme the main arena and exhibition space would be cut by half. Three of four historic grandstands would be demolished, some other heritage buildings would either be removed or altered and a large shopping complex would be built on land fronting Epsom Road.

Industry sources have said that an earlier version included a large component of housing and a retirement village. But The Age believes that housing is now likely to be ruled out.

Under Government instructions, all companies involved yesterday referred media inquiries to Toby Hemming, a spokesman for Major Projects Minister Peter Batchelor. Mr Hemming denied that the Government was being secretive. "There's nothing to announce because no contract has been signed," he said.

He said the Government hoped to sign a contract before the end of the year.

But Ms Asher said it was clear the Government did not want attention drawn to the Showgrounds project.

"Usually the minister at these times has multiple announcements, wild fanfare, lots of spin and copious self-congratulations. But with the Showgrounds, we have this extraordinary situation - a secret major project," she said.

Early this year, the former redevelopment chairman, Mr O'Keefe, encouraged bidders to include a $100 million ABC theme park in plans. Sources close to the project said yesterday that the theme park would not be included.

Nor would the redevelopment include the Flemington racetrack, as Mr O'Keefe had hoped. He resigned in May after concerns were raised by a probity auditor and a senior Government officer about his media comments and business links to the project. In his resignation letter he rejected the concerns.

A Heritage Victoria spokeswoman, Lisa Hurley, said it was too early to comment on whether the plan would win heritage approval.

ABC themepark....the horror!!

the state government's $101 million is for redevelopment of existing facilities while PPP will put in $600 million. the majority of that $600 mill will go to the 1/3 of the 27 hectares that will be given to PPP to develop how they see fit. AFR says there will be apartments and probably a hotel for Flemington racecourse. $600 gets you a a fair few 10-20 level towers?

don't knock it! I hear the Mother and Son, Yes Minister and the Dad's Army rides will kick ass.

whats going to happen with BDO?

Don't think this has been posted before, so here is the Fountain Gate - Narre Warren CBD Development Plan (http://www.casey.vic.gov.au/doclib/document3568.pdf) (PDF - dated July '04). The most interesting aspect is the renders of the "10 year plan" on pp 50-1. Not a masterplan as such, but it really gives a sense of Narre Warren becoming a miniature Sydney-style satellite CBD. (But no plans to divert the railway under the shopping centre. :()

Nazzzza Wazzzzzaaa.

hah, this is the council that wants to promote the country feel in the suburbs - gold.

What's more disgusting is the fact that on the corner of the Princes HWY and Narre North road, they've built this massive car park with a few homeware joints out the back, one of the most repulsive suburban sights you'll ever come across.

They should be pulverising the old Webb Street shopping strip and incorporating that area into this development plan so as it will give the train station relevance in the broader context - otherwise nothing much will change.

on another note: I don't even recognise half of these areas in those plans, so completely different to what's there now.

I have no idea whereabouts this is:

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/narre1.jpg

Note the massive slabs of surface car parking (snore)

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/narre2.jpg

This looks interesting (just barely recognisable), this will possibly be their attempt at linking Fountain Gate with the train station, notw all those footprints are amalgamations of massive amounts of land / derelict shops that have been owned by Fountain Gate over the years

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/narre3.jpg

all the low-rise / campus footprints to the East of Narre North Road (main spine running top to bottom) are a complete change - wonder if the cop shop will sell up :lol:

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/narre4.jpg

I'd say the tallest would be 15 levels, Kath or Kim could buy the penthouse - she'd be lovin it.

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/narre5.jpg

this is why i hate 2030....

towns and futures mapped out by num nuts...

there is no evolution just stock standard shitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt...

The City of Casey is obsessed with providing ever more car parking and more and more roads. They even want the Dandenong Southern Bypass extended east from where it is set to end at the South Gippsland Highway, over the South Gippsland Freeway, and along O'Grady and Centre Roads possibly up to the Centre Road/Shrives Road Intersection so that the suburban car hell Fountain Gate can have not one but two freeways spewing cars out into Narre Warren.

I'd imagine the City of Casey are about as serious as Greater Dandenong with regards to Melbourne 2030 and activity centres/transit cities. A case of all talk and no action.

seems the public housing concept has taken a quantum leap forward, only question now is where they're supposed to be built?

** Spowers - The design is a curved 9 storey, self shading building across the site with a narrow 11 storey tower to the north.

The fast moving shadow of the tower over the arc acts as a sundial. All habitable rooms capture northern light.

The project is designed for full disabled access. On site power generation is from solar thermal collectors; rainwater is collected for on site use.

http://www.spowers.com.au/images/projects/esd%20building5.jpg

http://www.spowers.com.au/images/projects/esd%20building4.jpg

hey better than the crap around flemington/collingwood

Wow. Thats too cool .

Seven-storey tower plan for Camberwell station (http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Sevenstorey-tower-in-Camberwell-station-plan/2004/11/24/1101219614631.html?from=moreStories)
The Age (www.theage.com.au)
By James Button
25 November 2004

A commerical development containing a building as high as seven storeys could be built at Camberwell Station if plans by the State Government's rail authority are approved.

The authority, VicTrack, yesterday released a new proposal for the controversial Camberwell Station development that includes up to 30 dwellings and a public plaza on the east side of the Burke Road bridge.

The proposal significantly amends VicTrack's original plans for the site, which provoked large public protests in Camberwell earlier this year. Yet the changes have not appeased residents and Boroondara Council could reject the development because of its size. A final decision on the site is likely to be made by Planning Minister Mary Delahunty.

The proposal by VicTrack's preferred developer, Tenterfield, includes the creation of a five-storey building on the car park next to the station on the east side of Burke Road. The building could rise to seven storeys if the council deems it to be "of exceptional design".

Tenterfield also proposes a mainly residential four-storey building at the back of the car park site - a change that could appeal to the Government because it meets its desire for greater residential density in activity centres such as Camberwell Junction. VicTrack chief executive John Sutton said the proposal would improve shopping on Burke Road by creating new retail buildings, while the plaza would retain views of the city from Cookson Street next to the station.

He said money raised from sale of land, plus air rights above the tracks, would go to improving the station, including the provision of disability access.

A member of the Boroondara Residents Action Group, Mary Drost, said that "obviously the Government has not heard one word the residents have said".

Mrs Drost said the new proposal was "just too big again. It is the Godzilla footprint and it absolutely ruins this lovely old station."

Boroondara city planning director Phil Storer said a council working group on the station site had received 694 submissions. It would make a recommendation to the council in February.
__________________________________________________________________

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Bugger the loss of views, and bugger the open plaza. The original design sounds a hell of a lot better as it addresses the street.

only time will tell funny how they say they will spend the money on improving the station isnt it run by a private company...

"of exceptional design" i believe it when i see it... (dont hold your breath)

Eh uh, with Franga right (lol) - there's one absolutely e-frikking-normous construction site to the north of the Myer, just west of the rail line - que?

(that's not the stuff Wilko was talking about 3 pages back?)

Thats Bayside North Shopping centre (Expansion to existing complex) For more info look at Frankston City's website. It will show you in detail it's plans for high density residential development in and around Frankston city and what thay call the 'Kananook Creek precint!

The Bayside North shopping centre is to include a Kmart and Safeway and heaps more shops linked by a bridge over beach street. Not sure about the original proposal to rebuild a Myer store!

The new Entertainment Complex on Wells Road looks awsome also. It has just opened!

There is no doubt that if planned properly, Frankston is going to be a very vibrant and major hub in terms of what the state government is trying to achieve with it's Melbourne 2030 strategy despite any flaws it may have. It wouldn't supprise me if it became Melbounre's second city over Dandenong one day!

how could you miss two cranes like this!

you missed 260 apartments not like u! :P

http://www.rivierarichmond.com.au/

Getting close now, one crane about to go :runaway:

Getting close now, one crane about to go :runaway:

its gone :)

the view is amazing take my word for it...

Metro 3125 is hotting up:

Something to Build On
.
Civil engineering design for Stages 1 and 2 planned for completion by mid December. VicUrban is planning to advertise tenders for civil works for Stage 1 in December with the view to works commencing on site in February 2005.

Our 4 residential builders for Stages 1 and 2 (Burbank Homes, Wincrest Homes, Zuccala Family Builders and Madisson Homes) are all in the process of designing houses for these first 2 stages and are expected to commence construction of houses on the site in the second half of 2005.

Each of VicUrban’s builders will commence marketing and pre-sales initiatives in the coming months and a display suite will be erected on site for people to get a better understanding of the project and see plans of the housing proposed.

News Update

Substantial landscape improve-ments are planned along Dandenong Creek and these works will be undertaken as part of Stages 1 and 2 to ensure that new residents have a high quality linear park at their doorstep.

Vicurban is also negotiating with the Department of Infrastructure and VicTrack to finalise the relocation of Freight Australia Pty Ltd, and Mainco Pty Ltd who are located near the Dandenong Station so that a high quality pedestrian plaza and improved car parking can be developed to enhance pedestrian safety and help create a more friendly experience when coming and going from the station. It is a high priority to VicUrban that these works be completed by the time the first residents move into the new community.

^ That should be Metro 3175 Tays and don't forget there's a seperate Greater Dandenong Thread on the Victoria forums! :bash:

Coincidentally I was having a walk along the back of the Freight Australia facility at Dandenong yesterday observing some of the tracks that run behind there. Looks like they will be ripped out of the ground as part of the "gentrification" of Dandenong in favour of a more eclectic "pedestrian plaza".

So far all the work has been undertaken to the south of Cheltenham Road. The fireworks will begin when development begins on the northern side and we will see a few 6 storey buildings fronting the station........

Mondo complete, good without being great...

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/mdo200412.jpg

Thank god they painted the concrete :)

And now for some more towers if you please Westies ;)

www.thevillage111.com.au

At Clayton and Springvale, billboards have been erected with train travel time to The Village 111 "Your home is only 3 minutes away" :rofl:

Although, I doubt much over 3 levels is going to come out of this, it'll be interesting to see how this turns out, Westall station is so isolated at the moment, and they've cleared a lot of the site - especially around the station entry, you never know, this village could open right up onto the Up platform and pave the way for a new station to boot!

In all the diagrams and models and pics Mondo appears to have a white painted finish. However, with folks having moved in and it pretty looking like all is said and done on the construction front; it has ended up a deep cream colour. Still looks the good but can't think that it would look so much better white? Anyone know anything about this?

www.thevillage111.com.au

At Clayton and Springvale, billboards have been erected with train travel time to The Village 111 "Your home is only 3 minutes away" :rofl:


At Westall station, there's a billboard saying "You Belong Here" and next to the billboard is a rusty shack that could collapse any second, plus several silos and warehouses in ruins.

Westall station is in desperate need of renovation though. I've seen quite a few people jump onto the tracks and climb onto the other platform to get to the other side.

I wouldn't really get my hopes too high for any sort of density in this development though.

Mondo - still looks like undercoat to me! What happened to the blue in the models???

hey northerly

Mondo's not the first tower that looks different to the renders and it wont be the last, just about every tower turns out different.

hey if you haven't checked out Foxtel's new centre over the road, dont! what a genuinely disgraceful piece of planning and architecture it is, i'd post pics but

the horror! the horror!

post!

last time I saw it was a few slabs of concrete stacked on top of one another - so it's not much better now? :lol:

silver - I see that FOXTEL building every day... it's at the end of my street. For some reason it annoys me less than Mondo. Everything you see in the models/pics earlier in this thread that was supposed to be white ended up a pukey cream, and everything that was supposed to be blue has ended up this terrible "undercoat" pink colour! It's not even CLOSE to the renders tho - shame, it'd look so much better if they'd finished the job off properly.

I coudn't find an appropriate thread to place this image so I guess that it had to be GREATER Melbourne.

This is a satellite image showing Melbourne and the outer Melbourne towns and cities. Clearly visible are Werribee, Melton, Sunbury, Bacchus Marsh, Ballarat, Bendigo and Geelong. But I wonder if you can make out Maryborough (NW of Ballarat, and Castlemaine (Due South of Bendigo). You can even make out Seymour and the Hume HWY and the main Sydney rail lines heading NE (About 80 km North from the city).

http://www.ga.gov.au/education/facts/images/melbourne1.jpg

dont know whats being built but the crane sticks out like dogs balls in barkly st, footscray. hopefully its the first of many cranes in the area

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/bfc200501.jpg

edit : one and one would suggest this is Allegro Apartments u/c, 250 Barkly st

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/4465/101984465ml1098918903.jpg

I thought there was a thread for this, but I can't find it ... my interest was spurred by the site of this crane appearing in Barkly St. Footscray. I first noticed it yesterday:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/Suburban/footscray/allegro_1765.jpg

This is the start of the Allegro Apartments, basement plus nine stories. Melways Map 2S shows them already in place, but there was just a big hole there today:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/Suburban/footscray/allegro_1767.jpg

More apartments in French St. There was a big crane with a jib about 20 metres mounted on the back of a truck there yesterday, but by the time i got there with my camera today it had gone:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/Suburban/footscray/french_1771.jpg

And last year's contribution to the streetscape, still on Map 2S, corner of Byron & Leeds Streets:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/Suburban/footscray/byron_1764.jpg

merged.

Looks like Footscray is moving faster then I had expected. Pitty its not a little higher like Moonee Ponds.

for this one on the Emporis site with no luck , sure its been seen before , nice reminder though !

Montage Apartments , Doncaster Hill ! :)

http://www.designpost.com.au/montage/home_brand_new_b.jpg

yeah montage has been around for a while, think its on hold

Building 2005 @ Monash Uni, not a bad result to date

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/05 200501.jpg

Seems like some of the Stonnington councillors are not happy with the height!

Oh well. :D

^ lol.

Who'd thunk high-rises in Bayswater?

http://thehoddlegrid.net/dump/bayswater-height-limits.jpg

http://thehoddlegrid.net/dump/bayswater-vision-realised.jpg

For only a Tier three activity centre (Tier 1: CBD, Tier 2: Principal (Dandenong, Ringwood, Frankston etc), Tier 3: Major (Bayswater, Narre Warren, Caulfield), Tier 4: Other (Stud Park, Waverley Gardens etc) - I LIKE what I see.

much the same talk about medium density (3 levels max) surrounding high-density right up close to the station. And Knox talk about redeveloping the station itself, such as doing what they did further down the line at Boronia: sinking it, which Bayswater could easily and kill two birds with one stone (Mountain HWY and Baywater Road).

:banana:

im all for this kind of development but im afraid it will be the same old same old its still early days...

i would like to see councils saying this town is going to be different from the other towns because of x,y,z that has never been done before...

how many of these towns will use grey water???? im guessing about .05% of water used

eh anyone know what the tallest building is on the Island?

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/01/26/eddie_jensz2,0.jpg

i know there is a three story hotel in cowes. Maybe the airport control tower? doubt it though.

Phillip Island is just screaming out for some highrise development! :lol:

Regards Bayswater, no serious development should be done unless the station was guaranteed to get the "Boronia Treatment", IMHO.

From memory there are a couple of 5 or 6 storey apartment buildings in Cowes. There is also a hotel proposal at the reacetrack which was around 10 stories from emory.

The Bayswater Structure Plan is great. :D

There's only two or three structures standing on The Village 111 site in Westall. So strange seeing absolutely nothing there.

The planned redevelopment of the Isle of Wright Hotel in Cowes will be a 7 storey 4.5 star hotel with 255 rooms and a height of 25.5 metres.

Its about time they built something of international standard. The island was missing out on overnight visitors and there's certainly enough on Phillip Island to warrant 2 days at least.

nothing left.

http://thehoddlegrid.net/dump/thevillage.jpg

There were still buildings (I use the term loosely) there when I went to Westall station on Sunday, so all that demolition would have been done on the Monday morning.

I've got a crappy "before" picture from a similar angle but I don't have a data cable for my phone.

The sales office has moved in to the shopping strip on Rosebank Ave (at the other end of the site). I might pop in if it's open on Sundays (I get tutored at Westall SC).

w00t, please do :)

it's looking like it's going to be fairly low-mid-rise, but this (will hopefully depending on Westall station) be one of the first complete PT-orientated developments under Melbourne2030 that we'll actually see results from (my main interest in the site even though it's most likely not going to be high-rise) :D

:banana2:

perhaps another Grollo project?

http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/80m-development-plan-for-Preston-market/2005/02/02/1107228767708.html

$80m development plan for Preston market
By Royce Millar
City reporter
February 3, 2005

Preston Market is to be redeveloped into a residential and retail complex, including high-rise apartments and factory outlets, under an $80 million scheme by the new owner, Salta Properties.

Salta executive director, Sam Tarascio told The Age that his company was in negotiations with Darebin Council about a scheme to make better use of the open-air car park at the four-hectare market.

The plan includes:

* A multi-level car park to free up the existing car park.
* Ground-level retail focused on direct factory outlets.
* Apartments above retailers.
* Retention of the existing market.
* Possible addition of a major new supermarket.

Mr Tarascio stressed that the existing market buildings would be retained but "we will probably tidy them up a bit".

Darebin Council is known to be keen to protect the affordable, fresh food character of the market. The market already has Aldi, Bi-Lo and Safeway supermarkets nearby, but Salta is talking to Coles about opening a store at the redeveloped site.

Mr Tarascio said he hoped to finalise redevelopment plans in about three months.

Salta, which also developed the Victoria Gardens complex in Richmond, bought the market with partners last year for an estimated $37 million. Mr Tarascio said he did not intend to add to the growing number of factory outlet complexes in Melbourne but hoped to bring together existing, individual outlets from around Preston.

Preston Central, including the market, is earmarked as one of Melbourne's principal activity centres under the State Government planning blueprint, Melbourne 2030.

In line with blueprint the Government and Darebin Council are believed to be open to the idea of high-rise housing as part of the market project.

The council's strategy and governance manager, Kevin Breen, said a draft planning strategy would consider both high-rise towers or medium-rise housing of between five and eight levels at the market.

"Nothing has been ruled out or ruled in. We want to test ideas with the community," he said.

Mr Breen said that while the council supported higher density housing at the market, it was committed to protecting existing low-rise character of surrounding neighbourhoods.

Mr Tarascio said that because it was a large site separated from residential streets, the market would be suitable for buildings higher than the norm for the area. "If there was any site where you could look at height it's here. We would certainly be looking at getting some height."

But he conceded the apartment market would need to pick up before his company proceeded with residential construction.

The market owners, the council and Government have also joined forces in a pilot scheme to provide free home deliveries to shoppers who travel to the market by public transport, bicycle or foot. Mr Breen said the scheme was in line with the council's policy of encouraging public transport use.

Preston is the largest market in Melbourne outside the Queen Victoria market.

____________

anyone got any pics of the area?

Future beckons for Essendon Airport
Karina Barrymore
10 February 2005

Property developer and funds manager Becton Group has quit the $1 billion Essendon Airport development project after selling its 15 per cent stake to Becton founder and executive chairman Max Beck.

Becton confirmed yesterday that it had sold its stake in the suburban Melbourne airport to the Beck family in a deal late last year.

Becton and Max Beck had originally purchased a 99-year lease over the commonwealth-owned airport in partnership with Lindsay Fox's Linfox, for $30 million.

Mr Beck will now be a sole joint-venture partner with Linfox. The parties would not disclose the resale price of Becton's stake.

"The decision by the Beck family to move to a 50 per cent interest in Essendon Airport has been made on the basis of a good match in the investment philosophies of us and Linfox," Mr Beck said in a statement.

"Although the airport is not anticipated to provide a return in the short-to-medium term, I see it as a very solid long-term investment for the Beck family," he said.

Linfox founder Lindsay Fox said in a statement that he was happy to continue his association with the airport and Max Beck.

"The Beck and Fox families have been close friends for 25 years and the joint venture suits both families for the long term," Mr Fox said.

Becton Group said the share sale would allow it to retire debt which was provided by Mr Beck to acquire the investment in 2001.

Becton managing director Hamish Macdonald said the release of the airport investment would let it "pursue other projects that better support the growth and future of the business".

There has been little development at Essendon Airport, which is about 10 kilometres north of the Melbourne CBD. It did, however, secure a major commitment from a retail tenant, when Austexx's Direct Factory Outlet agreed to lease a 25,000 square metre factory-outlet centre as part of the first stage in the revamp of the airport.

The outlet, which will include bulky-goods retailing, will be part of a new $120 million retail precinct that began construction last year.

The retail centre, to be known as Freeway Central, is the first of six new airport precincts planned for Essendon and is to be followed by a major commercial office development with up to 350,000 sq m of office space.

Direct Factory Outlet also has a similar agreement to lease a large retail complex at Brisbane Airport.

Becton Developments Ltd, which recently listed on the Australian Pacific Exchange, is a public offshoot of the private construction company Becton. Becton Group span off Becton Developments about four years ago as a new public investment vehicle to help fund construction projects.

Where is Essendon airport? Oops, that was probably answered 250 posts ago. Better ban me and close the thread for a few days as punishment Mr Tayser oh great revered one! lol.

I know you are being "funny", but here it is anyway:

http://www.nowwhereroute.com/Mapimage/TEMPqfy0lpbrza5122mpdyni4x331160.png

Stu

Update on Monash Caulfield..... I took a quick couple of shots with my camera phone (so forgive quality) when I went up to gym today. The carpark is pretty much completed (even with some landscaping now!) and I may try to get some proper photos of that during the week cause I didn't take any just now. The main academic building is powering along, and still has a few levels to go yet, looking big. enjoy:

http://stuart.kortum.com.au/photos/albums/album02/mini_DSC00079.jpg

http://stuart.kortum.com.au/photos/albums/album02/mini_DSC00080.jpg

http://stuart.kortum.com.au/photos/albums/album02/mini_DSC00075.jpg

http://stuart.kortum.com.au/photos/albums/album02/mini_DSC00076.jpg

Stu

$500m FACELIFT (The Journal Monday 14 Feb 2005 P1)

Casey Council has given the go-ahead for a $500 million redevelopment of the Fountain Gate-Narre Warren central business district that will provide cosmopolitan shopping and living.

A council review into the area's future found it had the potential to become a regional urban CBD of national importance and would facilitate the creation of Melbourne's premier suburban CBD

Not quite, Council just approved an updated structure plan and approved the exhibition of amendment C86 to the planning scheme which would put the updated Fountain Gate – Narre Warren CBD plans into the planning scheme.

After the exhibition period is completed the proposal will be assessed by a planning panel and then has to be approved by the minister.

Even after all this is done it is just a structure plan and the $500 million dollars is just potential future investment.

It'll just be a massive auto-centric office park unless they sort out buses in the area.

Well the structure plan has two pages with detailed plans of road works and traffic engineering required and one paragraph stating that further investigation is needed into the provision of better bus services :-(

bingo. :)

It would need good access to Narre Warren train Station at least if it is going to work. Sadly, it has good access to Monash Freeway dam it! Have to admit the area is a shocker for traffic! real USA style of suburbs I find shithouse and I totally agree with tayser's view on urban sprawl to a certain extent.

The concept is encouraging though, having people live above the shopping/commercial activity precinct and close to work is a good sign they are trying to tackle the car dependant sprawl insn't it?

Here's the full article:

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From the Journal, Monday February 14, 2005, p.1

$500m facelift
Designs on town centre

By Chris Mallon

CASEY Council has given the go-ahead for a $500 million redevelopment of the Fountain Gate-Narre Warren central business district that will provide cosmopolitan shopping and living.

A council review into the area’s future found it had the potential to become a regional-urban CBD of national importance and would facilitate the creation of Melbourne’s premier suburban CBD.

The proposed redevelopment is also an integral part of Melbourne 2030, the State Government’s planning strategy for Melbourne for the next 30 years.

The council’s strategic development officer Halvard Dalheim said the council started its review in 2003.

“Melbourne 2030 has a strong focus on activity centres in terms of moving away from the stand-alone shopping centres to a more diverse town environment.”

Mr Dalheim said planning controls would guide the Fountain Gate-Narre Warren redevelopment from a shopping centre and car park into a modern, cosmopolitan town centre environment.

“The council is continuing to look at the different activities that are possible in the longer term. One of the important elements is the creation of a more liveable town centre. The structure plan puts forward the concept of a town park and apartments to try and change the amenity of a town centre.

“We feel that apartments facing a town park with (commercial) activity on the ground floor is the environment where people may want to live in the CBD.”

Mr Dalheim said that the redevelopment would generate a substantial increase in retail and commercial activity.

“In terms of the additional retail and commercial activities, we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars developed over the next 30 years. There will be some 80,000 square metres of office development.”

The redevelopment was also part of the council’s C21 strategy to build employment, transport and community facilities in the area. The redevelopment will be co-financed by the council and private sector.

hope that's not surface car parking behind those buildings on the right ;)

Patterson lakes:

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The new City of Hume officesa in Broadmeadows have been design by Lyons Architects to achive a 5 star energy rating:

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Go Broady! :lol: :eek2:

WOW Go Broady

^ Has this been approved and ready to go or is it still a proposal at this stage.
I know when Broadmeadows released it's renders to the local press on it's transit city structure plan, visions etc, it was met by a lot of negative public opinion to any high rise or the structure plan itself. It's a shame because the town centre's retail core consisting mainly of a standalone shopping mall, although a good one, is walking distance to the station.

Lyons recently won the tender to design the building so I presume it is going ahead.

Gee, a few tall buildings will really destroy the wonderful ambiance and heritage of Broadmeadows :-)

Looks good to me!

^ Agree!! Perfect place for highrise development!, the so called town centre at the moment is all carpark and spaced out buildings, the centre has so much potential. It has a large TAFE College, new global learning centre and a large trainstation on it's doorstep!!

But gee that train station is a steaming pile of late 80's designed Joan Kirner opened crappe. This new building though is certainly hot hot hot!

Background: (from the Cranbourne Leader, Wednesday May 5, 2004, p.5.)
Casey refuses high-rise office

By Jeannette Langan

HAMPTON Park residents last week welcomed a Casey Council decision to knock back a five-level office complex planned for a former petrol station site on the corner of Somerville Road and Stuart St.

The town’s progress association and other nearby residents had objected to what they described as an overly large building that would overshadow their homes, remove backyard privacy and cause traffic and parking chaos.

Hampton Park Progress Association president Warren Calder said although in a business zone not far from Hampton Park Safeway, the site bordered residential areas.

“From the upper storeys, workers will be able to look directly down into the backyards of people living in Stuart and neighbouring streets,” he said.

“It is too high, too close and intrudes on their privacy. There is nothing of this nature in or around Hampton Park. It’s totally out of character.”

The applicant, a local accountancy firm, countered that the building would create jobs and be the first top-class corporate office building in the town, enticing professional businesses such as law, medical specialists and accountants to the area.

Councillors agreed with the objectors, describing it as an overdevelopment of the site.

A report by the council’s planning department found the building was out of character with the low-line retail and residential surroundings and it would create a parking shortfall in surrounding areas.

It also raised safety issues because the CFA did not have equipment to fight fires in a building of this size, and recommended the building be dropped tow levels for a more “harmonious relationship” with the surroundings.

Christine Lohrey, a spokeswoman for the applicant, said the firm had not yet decided whether to appeal to the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal.
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There has been virtually no coverage of this development since the above article was written although the building is still going ahead minus two storeys, which is a real shame, as it would have potentially been the largest building in the City of Casey.

The photos of the development were taken yesterday from a real estate sign at the site on the corner of Somerville Road and Stuart Avenue in Hampton Park:

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Hampton Park Progress Association - almost as much of an oxymoron as Upper Beaconsfield Progress Association ;)

^ For sure, kind of like the "Liberal" party in a way....lol.....the part I found most amusing about this whole episode though was the fact that the main objector was a resident living on Stuart Avenue, who runs a barber shop from his/her premises (in a Residential 1 Zone), was objecting to a commercial development on land in a Business 1 Zone. Am I the only one who finds such a stance just a touch hypocritical?

ROFL!!!!

That is sooooooooooooooooooooooo funny for so many reasons!!

Gee, what happens in the backyards of Stuart!?! :naughty:

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http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Moorabbin-station-project-aims-high/2005/03/16/1110913662712.html

Moorabbin station project aims high
By Martin Boulton
March 17, 2005

Property developer MAB Corporation is in a strong position to acquire air rights above Moorabbin railway station after paying $6.5 million for the former council offices site.

MAB signed the deal yesterday after a protracted and confidential tender process and plans to begin work immediately on a $60 million mixed-use precinct with office space, serviced apartments or a hotel and retail space. The sale does not include the Kingston Arts Centre or Kingston City Hall.

The company, which developed NewQuay at Docklands, is jointly owned by brothers Andrew and Michael Buxton.

Paul Hameister, the general manager of capital and acquisitions, said the first stage of construction was part of a 10 to 15-year development of the station through to the shopping centre. "This is a long-term partnership with the council (and) a prime example of what can be achieved with activity centres under Melbourne 2030," Mr Hameister said.

Melbourne 2030, the Victorian Government's planning blueprint, encourages higher-density living around "activity centres" with major train and bus transport hubs, such as Moorabbin.

The strategy aims to contain urban sprawl while accommodating an additional 1 million Melburnians over the next 25 years. But last month a leaked report by the Melbourne 2030 Implementation Reference Group said the Government had failed to account for the major transport improvements needed.

Yesterday a spokeswoman for VicTrack, the government-owned rail and infrastructure authority, said: "At this stage there is no VicTrack air space included in the process with (Kingston) Council."

Mr Hameister said MAB was in discussion with VicTrack about Moorabbin station and that "we'd like to see those air rights become part of a future stage of the development".

Kingston Council Mayor Topsy Petchey said redevelopment of the former council offices would revitalise the precinct.

:D :D :D :D :D :D

NEXT: Station next to Southland, Cheltenham CBD & the complete rejuvination of it.

Cmon VicTrack, set a precedent PLEASE!~!!

How long before the nothing over two storeys for Morrabbin group is formed and we have protest marches featuring a couple of toss-pot actors who only go to Morrabbin once every five years?

How long before they come up with their own plan to put a park over the rail lines with a small cafe to raise funds for the local RSL and a two storey community centre to hold their meetings in to ensure that nothing else ever gets built in morrabbin??

The State Government should take control and declare it a Comprehensive Development Zone NOW with no VCAT appeal rights and no stuffing around with petty self interest groups for 10 years.

I could give some fabulous non commercial examples of this fine township, but I have 2 sets of plans in atm, so restraint is needed.

GGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

typical ridiculous name, good development that starts later this year

Westville Central, 2 sub-levels for 150 carparking spaces, 25 retail spaces and a 500 seat convention/function centre plus 75 apartments. just off barkly st footscray near Allegro thats u/c.

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noice.

Footascray's definitely not afraid of new development.

From the Age: Wednesday March 23, 2005, Domain, pp.4-5

Westville Central: Nicholson Street, Footscray, Hayball Leonard Stent

A $40 million apartment, retail and entertainment development in the heart of Footscray aims to bring a new architectural identity to the area.

John Hair, an associate director with architectural firm Hayball Leonard Stent, says the practice was approached a year-and-a-half ago about designing the project as a residential, retail and entertainment complex that could form a focal point for the surrounding Vietnamese community.

"Basically they came to us and said that in the Footscray area they have a critical mass of the Vietnamese community and they have no identity for them in that area.," sayd Hair.

"The main feature of this building to them was really to create a landmark project for the Vietnamese community similar to what Chinatown offers the Chinese community in central Melbourne."

The complex, which has been designed as two building forms above a ground level podium reaching with heights of five and seven storeys, will have a large function centre and about 20 ground level retail outlets. These include shops along adjoining malls running between Nicholson and Droop Streets, and Dennis and Donald Streets. There will be eight one-bedroom, 39 two-bedroom and 27 three-bedroom apartments.

"It's kind of a little microcosm of the community," says Hair.

He says that while the apartments might be a little larger - and perhaps more colourful - than some of those in other parts of the city, the approach to the project's design had not been different to projects in other parts of the city.

"The building in a sense, would be no different from a building we would do in Carlton or a building we would do in Southbank - we'd use contemporary materials, " says Hair. "I wouldn't say the building is particularly Vietnamese in its look - we've introduced a bit of red in some of the retail areas which is a signature colour.....but overall the building is a modern, contemporary building. (The developer's) feeling was that they wanted to have a building that would look good in any part of Melbourne."

Project director Michael Nikolic says the developer (also named Westville Central) selected Hayball Leonard Stent to handle the project because they were after a design that would "help inspire the change in Footscray".

Nikolic says the location - which he describes as the "Paris end of Footscray" - meant the architecture could be a bit more liberal in their approach than would perhaps be possible in some other areas of Melbourne.

A planning permit for the project has been granted and construction is expected to begin in October.

FROM THE MINISTER FOR PLANNING

DATE: Thursday, March 31, 2005

PANEL RECOMMENDS GO AHEAD FOR NORTHCOTE PLAZA

The Planning Minister, Rob Hulls, today said he had accepted the recommendations of an independent Panel and Advisory Committee that would allow the revitalisation of Northcote Plaza to commence.

The decision to accept the Panels recommendations clears the path for the development of two multi-level apartment buildings, four new shops, a new restaurant and a new pedestrian piazza.

"The dated Plaza will now be given a new lease of life," Mr Hulls said.

"Through the cooperation of the Darebin City Council, the development will see a better integration of the Plaza, library, community precinct and All Nations Park.

Mr Hulls said the Panel recommended a number of significant refinements to the original plans to improve the visual impact of existing buildings and augment the south and north carparks with the planting of canopy trees, further tree planting on the western edge adjacent to the piazza, improved pedestrian paths and the establishment of parking facilities for bicycles.

Mr Hulls said he understood there were some concerns in the community about the height of the proposed development, but the Panel found that taller apartment buildings offered a better built form than lower options that would result in squat, bulky buildings.

"The Panel concluded that the proposed development would transform the currently poor presentation of Northcote Plaza's 'back of house' to the park and provide a public space that integrates the park with the Plaza," he said

Mr Hulls said the development would provide flexible housing choices within an activity centre to better meet the need for housing diversity in the local community.

"We cannot ignore the need to provide more housing in well-serviced established areas. As communities age and change people need different types of housing. At the same time we must protect Melbourne's liveability by making sure we have the right sort of development in the right places."

Once complete, the Northcote Plaza Development will include:
· Two multi-level apartment buildings
- Northern building – 8 storeys (maximum height 35m) accommodating 34 two-bedroom dwellings
- Southern building – 10 storeys (maximum height 41.5m) accommodating 47 single-bedroom, 31 two-bedroom dwellings and 4 three-bedroom dwellings.
· A pedestrian piazza
· Four new shops – accessed from the centre mall and proposed piazza
· A Restaurant – to seat 105 people and overlooking the proposed piazza.

FRANKSTON Nicknamed the "New Brighton" I though I would bring your attention to this suburb on the bay that I do not think gets enough attention.

It is a city with an undeserving bad reputation that has stuck from the 1980's early 90's. lol! Instead, look at Frankston now, it's CBD clearly has eye opening potential!!! The location of the station to the shops and to the forshore can not be argued as being other than ideal.

Below are a few images of the New Entertainment Complex that opened early in the year and the New Bayside North shopping precinct underconstruction ready to open in November 2005 with the final stage to be opened by March 2006.

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The proposed $40m redevelopment of the old 12 story Peninsula Centre (Melbourne ugliest suburban highrise built in early 80's)

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There is a lot of vision and proposed major projects earmarked for the Frankston Central Acitivies District, the Frankston forshore has been redeveloped and landscaped and the kiosk/restaurant is well underconstruction. Anyone with more info about Frankston please post!

Pictures from the City Of Frankston website.

Mr. Fixit better fix many other things too.

nice, go Franga, :lol: @ Penin. Centre. :D

PANEL RECOMMENDS AGAINST GLENROY DEVELOPMENT
The Minister for Planning, Rob Hulls, today announced he had accepted the recommendation of the independent Priority Development Panel not to support the current proposal for a multi-storey development in Glenroy.

Mr Hulls said the Panel found the development proposed for Blenheim Street and Glenroy Road had not been well conceived or thought through and left a number of key design and traffic issues unresolved.

“The panel found the proposed development, which incorporated two buildings of 12 and 17 storeys plus a basement carpark, made only superficial attempts to integrate the site with the area as a whole,” Mr Hulls said.

The Panel also found there was no attempt to address the Department of Sustainability and Environment’s ‘Guidelines for Higher Residential Development’, minimal attempt was made to address the streetscape of adjacent streets, and there were no specific proposals for additional open space.

The independent panel report concluded that “overall the proposal did not stand up on its own merits”.

Mr Hulls said there was general agreement by the panel this was an important and suitable site for development.

“The panel found that while this particular proposal should not proceed, the site is one that can accommodate residential development. The onus is now on the council and the developer to work together with the community to come up with the right plan for the site,” Mr Hulls said.

“We can’t ignore the need to provide more housing in well-serviced established areas. As communities age and change people need different types of housing. But we must also protect Melbourne's liveability by making sure we have the right sort of development in the right places.

“The Panel indicated that a number of issues could be resolved as part of the Council’s structure planning process and I am encouraging the council to advance this process to provide clearer guidance for the future of the site.”

mmm. well at least they're rejecting shite (that is if you believe what was said bout the proposal).

Moonee Ponds Activity Centre (proposed)

A - 2-3L
B - 3-4L
C - 5L
D - 5-7L
E - 8-10L
F - 10+L

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there's all the open space and PT shit that Tays likes covered by the plan but the height limits are the interesting thing

1, 8-10L height limit, existing 17 tower
2, 8-10L height limit, approved 17 & 15L
3, 5-7L height limit, approved 10L
4, 3-4L height limit, approved 12L
5, readings site, id say 25L+ towers are possible

so an interesting plan thats well thought out, although i think the suggested height limits are to appease the locals and not really set in stone. i think it'll be somewhat more denser and higher than the plan suggests, and there are future plans to expand the bounds of the activity centre

What an excellent plan!

Moonee P's fortunate enough to have very decent PT atm with multiple routes across all modes converging - what would make it rock harder is the rerouting of Vline services via Upfield (rebuild Upfield - Somerton) then bring the Broadmeadows (Craigieburn) line up to 10" frequencies, could easily make a -real- transit city of Moonee Ponds in no time.

On this side of town, Oakleigh, Box Hill and Moorabbin are in the same boat. Speaking of Oakleigh, there's a PRIME corner site abutting the bus station (next to rail station) which is easily landmark status and far away from houses & could easily piss a 20L in.

Latest from Monash Caulfield, circa 23/4

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Stu

nice pics.

funny thing is that no-one knows (or is willing to divulge the info) who - i.e. which department / school - is moving into it yet. It can't all be 100% seminar rooms hah.

the next development will be for more IT studios - there's currently only two for SIMS in T block (old tech school building). All Monash IT degrees are changing from 9 odd degree structures to one next year or next and they're (all the other IT schools) are taking a leaf out of SIMS' book and going for studios right throughout each degree - every IT u/grad will do the same first year - mixture of Systems Analysis & Design, Programming/Coding, Networking & 'people skills' (an oxymoron for most IT students :lol: ) - the studios. Then in 2nd and 3rd they do their specialisation (B. Information Systems, B. Business Systems, B. Soft. Eng., B. Computing, B. Network Computing, B. Computer Science etc) - point being Caulfield needs more studios - at least ten.

Well from what I have heard the majority of it will be devoted to postgraduate study. But logically you would have to assume more computer labs/ studios because there are just too few of them... as for what school, you are right, no-one I have spoken to has any idea either. Maybe they will devote the whole building to seminar rooms, lecture rooms and tute rooms, etc... although I doubt it.

Stu

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Above and below are aerials of the recently completed, but not fully functional Australian Synchrotron at Monash University.
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A shot I took at the open day.

Go go gadget Swinburne? pic thanks to smileyface

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I've been going past the site on a weekly basis but only really noticed it today, how's this for out of the blue and 'wtf factor' equaling 10 out of 10:

Cnr North and Warrigal Roads there's a 3 level apartment building going up with excavation works in full swing (I'd say bout 15-20 apartments?), right on the intersection.Down nearer Mentone, just south of Centre Dandenong road bout 100m from Warrigal road there's been a really cool townhouse development crop up in a typical suburban Cheltenham street - not that it looks out of place, it's just that it makes you wonder what the inevitable backlash would have been - they've no setbacks from the street, doors (and a garage) literally are sitting on the footpath (feels like somewhere with terraces in inner Melbourne), hardly feel 'suburban' at all and they have massive (I mean massive!) balconies overhanging a strip shopping area all with a view into at least 10 backyards :lol:

gg Kingston.

^^ yeah thanks for that informative nothingness tays

a nine-level 130 serviced/apartment complex has been approved for the Racecourse Hotel, 1 Ascot Vale Rd. directly opposite the Gates of Flemington Racecourse. more needed!

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From The Age, Thursday May 19, 2005, p.3:

Planners OK five storeys at Camberwell site
By Jewel Topsfield

IT'S the Boroondara City Council meeting no one wants to miss.

Academy Award-winner Geoffrey Rush, overseas filming the sequel to the Pirates of the Caribbean, hopes to fly home for it. Opposition planning spokesman Ted Baillieu has written urging 2000 residents to attend.

Hanging in the balance is the future of Melbourne's most feted railway station. On Monday night 10 councillors will vote on planning guidelines to control the redevelopment of the Camberwell Station site.

In a report obtained by The Age, planning officers recommend the council allow a residential and retail building of up to five storeys above the car park at the station. A five-storey building, its says, would be no higher than the adjacent Qantas building on Railway Walk. But the recommendation has angered residentsm, who have fought an 18-month battle against State Government plans for a large scale redevelopment.

Mary Drost, the vice-president of the Boroondara Residents' Action Group, said the site was not suitable for residential development. She said a five-storey building would block city views, dominate the historic station and result in loss of open space. "The huge thing would absolutely swamp the poor little station down there," Ms Drost said. "We are so opposed to it, it's just unbelieveable"

Camberwell Station became a cause celebre when Rush and Barry Humphries - who once described Camberwell as his "spiritual resting place" - played leading roles in fighting plans by the State Government's owner of rail property, VicTrack to redevelop it. Greater housing density in activity centres such as Camberwell Junction is central to the State Government's Melbourne 2030 plan.

But Rush, who lives near the station, dubbed the likely impact of VicTrack's development proposal "Godzilla's footprint", with all the character and charm of mid-1960's "box" architecture.

A working group of Government, council, residents and traders was set up early last year to develop planning guidelines.

The council report's recommendation of five storeys is a taller version of two options presented to council. Ted Baillieu said he was concerned attempts were being made to ensure the Bracks Government could proceed with a development of its choosing, regardless of the wishes of people in Boroondara.

Mayor Jack Wegman, a member of the working group, was coy about how he would vote.

"I think it would detract from the heritage qualities of the area," Cr Wegman said. He said councillors would consider the feasibility of council buying or leasing the site and relocating the Camberwell Library.

But Cr Heinz Kreutz said buying the site for a community development would cost more than $16 million. "I wonder how the lower reaches of East Burwood, Ashburton and other less well-served and fortunate parts of the city would respond to the council spending more than 20 per cent of its rate revenue on a single highly localised project," he said.

Also from The Age, Thursday, May 19, 2005, p.8:

Planning
Blueprint challenged in tower block appeal

AN EASTERN suburban council has challenged the legal status of the State Government's planning blueprint, Melbourne 2030, in a Supreme Court bid to overturn planning approval for a dual-tower development in Mitcham.

Whitehorse Council appealed against a decision by the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal to approve the 17 and 11-storey development, arguing it gave too much weight to Melbourne 2030 - the Government's strategy for accommodating an extra 620,000 households over the next 25 years.

The plan received more than 600 objections but was approved by tribunal. The council appealed against the decision after obtaining legal advice the tribunal had "misconstrued" Melbourne 2030.

The court reserved its judgement.

MARTIN BOULTON

How long before the nothing over two storeys for Morrabbin group is formed and we have protest marches featuring a couple of toss-pot actors who only go to Morrabbin once every five years?



KRAMMED already exists

Kingston Residents Against M??? M???? E??? Development

Barett Apartments in Hawthorn are now completed and looking good:

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I like the streetfront - is that retail?

Looks good to me. Great quality developemnt for the leafy eastern suburbs.

probably late 2004 since X_Change was last seen up close

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edit: and not half-arsed from Rialto hey Tays

^ ho ho ho merry christmas.

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the approved coles myer development in MPonds has been revised down from 17/15/10 Levels to one 9 level building.

let me be the first to say FUCK!

what is the point developing a master plan for the area that recommends 15 levels + for the site only to back this piece of shit. whats even worse is that they have incorporated a readings site in this as well, what a useless development of this 2.5 hectare site. . .one of if not the best in greater melbourne right on top of a major public transport hub

typical leftie, tree hugging fucking 'i cant see past the end of my nose' decision, Doncaster comes to mind, where they wont let you develop certain site unless you stick a tower on it. if the govt wanted to enforce 2030, they'd get involved. maybe they'll 'look into it.' by no means apples to apples, but the Chatswood Interchange master plan comes to mind.

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^^^^^^^^^
Another reason why Melbourne will never be as good as Sydney.

2030 is a joke

^^ no 2 people posting on the same account is a joke.

the left, which i would include myself in, should support this kind of development. It encourages public transport use therefore decreasing car dependency, curbs urban sprawl, creates 'urban villages', limits water wastage...and so on.

I'm crossing my fingers the ALP loses its majority in the Legislative Council (which it looks like it will) as the new PR system they entrenched in the state constitution is likely to return at least one Green, maybe two, and maybe one Dem - of which both those parties have far superior transportation policies compared to the Tories and Unionists.

If these minor parties were to grab the balance of power, then it would all be for the better as the the ALP 'talks' about the right things, and a green / dem alliance would make sure they 'do' it.

God fucking help us if the Liberals got a majority in the LA, Melbourne 2030 would be canned and this Moonee Ponds site would be turned into a car park for all the self-serving auto-centric arsewipes from the Eastern burbs funnelling out of the newly built privately funded & backed Eastern-Tullamarine FWY tunnel.

Meanwhile, the more socio-economically & ethnically diverse sandbelt (southern burbs) will become far more densely populated and the push to buy votes will move from the claybelt (eastern burbs) to the sanbelt, thus ending the Eastern burbs grip on Melbourne's balls AT LONG LAST.

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shut up tays.

ok.

^^^^^^^^^
Another reason why Melbourne will never be as good as Sydney.

2030 is a joke

How do I make that rolly eyed smiley?

Sydney's suburban centres are not going to go down in history as the finest examples of 20th century urban planning and architecture. No matter what the girls are telling you, it's not all about how big it is ;)

Melbourne's charm is in it's inner city urban centres, which have much better architecture and atmosphere and generally are much less than 9 storeys.

And yes, Sydney is what happens when Righty, tree choppers have free reign over development.

Show me 3 highrise buildings in Sydney's burbs that would be listed in any guide to contemporary architecture.

the approved coles myer development in MPonds has been revised down from 17/15/10 Levels to one 9 level building.


Don't worry, the only reason this has happened is because the housing market as gone down the tubes. Nobody is building anything in the activity centres at the moment so even this nine storey proposal won't get built.

Just wait a couple of years until the property market recovers and the proposals will start to flood in again.

How do I make that rolly eyed smiley?

Sydney's suburban centres are not going to go down in history as the finest examples of 20th century urban planning and architecture. No matter what the girls are telling you, it's not all about how big it is ;)

Melbourne's charm is in it's inner city urban centres, which have much better architecture and atmosphere and generally are much less than 9 storeys.

And yes, Sydney is what happens when Righty, tree choppers have free reign over development.

Show me 3 highrise buildings in Sydney's burbs that would be listed in any guide to contemporary architecture.
there are many great highrise bldgs in Sydney's burbs. ive driven around and seen them. all i have to do is to prove it with some piccies. give me some time and ill post some.

^^^ this has nothing to do with sydney and its merits. the fact of the matter is MVCC have formulated MV2020 and the state govt 2030 and this decision goes directly against the principles set out by these guidelines. ahh yes i forgot to mention that with this one nine level residential and retail proposal comes 1704, yes 1704 car parking spaces. everyone knows thats traffic around MP Junction is shot to shit all hours of the day due to citylink. the local govt have seen this proposal and thought yay - less highrise and a plaza and thats it? bus and tram services run late enough due to traffic and this wont improve - it will get worse. the nature of the previous proposal near forced people on PT as there less parking spaces for residents and the mixed use plan had good traffic directional flow

this is one of four tendered designs still to be assessed, the fact that MVCC have publically backed this one before the private tender process has been completed says enough in itself. yes they are a bunch of short sighted, leftie tree hugging idiots and if 1704 car spots is a good urban planning outcome for a development this size then we have major problems with 2030 when MP sits one a major PT junction - train/tram/bus.

to think mirvac has submitted a tender as well....opportunity lost in favour of another lowrise carpark/retail blob, and highpoint is two km's down the road...thats just great!

Sorry I just jumped off the deep end there for a moment, I completely misunderstood what Silvermb said in his orginal post about the Coles Myer Site. I had understood that the 9 level proposal had been approved. Now re-reading it seems that out of the 4 main options for the site the Moonee Valley City Council has backed the the proposal for surface carparking/retail and a 9 level tower.

That is a disgrace and is very short sighted. They approve Mondo at 17 Levels ~56m but now back a tower of 9 levels on a site that can very easily be devloped with 25 levels just to save themselves.

Does anyone think that this proposal will even get off the ground?? Any proposal in Suburban CBD's for that matter??

this is one of four tendered designs still to be assessed, the fact that MVCC have publically backed this one before the private tender process has been completed says enough in itself.

Actually all the council has done is say that it will consider approving a development plan which has for the site by one of the four companies tendering for the site. They have indicated they don't oppose the development plan because it includes more retail and office space than previous proposals.

The council has sought legal advice which indicates that it can approve four seperate development plans for the site at the same time. So each of the companies can prepare a development plan and have it approved by council if they want.

Council have not approved the development plan or indicated support for any of the four tenders. It is up to the current owners of the site to pick the winning tender, not council.

A more detailed report has been requested and will be considered by council on 21 June together with the responses from the many referral authorities.

If the MVCC is leftie, Silvermb, that makes the Brack Government a model socialist regime.

The current crop of MVCC have precided over wholesale destruction of large street and park trees and replaced them with a single species - some sort of pear tree. We inherited a refugee possum and occasionally a fruit bat when the council acquiesed in the destruction of the trees around to old Essendon hospital.

To be fair to the MVCC, the outcome at the Coles Myer and the old Moonee Ponds market site is more the work of private operators (including private planning action via the Supreme Court) than the council; council has been trying to get development going but the land owners and financiers keep on sitting on their hands and leaving their properties vacant and undeveloped.

The process was started while we had no council - the Kennett Government's Commissioners presided over the sale of the community owned Moonee Ponds market which was eventually allowed to fall into disrepair when it was owned by the Highpoint West and onsold to Readings Cinemas. One of the current cimema operators blocked Reading's development in the Supreme Court years ago.

LOL @ the Manchurian Pear Tree, Everywhere you go in Melbourne you can find them. They are a recent craze, some wholesaler must be making a mint from the sale of the young trees. Every major road route in the City of Whittlesea has them, the new Medium Strip and main roads around Preston and many areas within the Moonee Valley City Council also have extensive plantings.

http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/2002/__data/page/433/manchurianpear_18.jpg

http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/2002/__data/page/433/chanticleer_18.jpg

http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/2002/__data/page/433/ornpear_18.gif

Any news on the Supreme Court case re: Mitcham towers?