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mr.x
August 8th, 2008, 09:55 PM
Vanoc has tough act to follow after Beijing opening

JEFF LEE, Vancouver Sun
Published: Friday, August 08, 2008

BEIJING - At the Beijing Games if there is one lesson that John Furlong and his team at the Vancouver Organizing Committee are taking away from the opening ceremony of the 2008 Beijing Games, it is that there are no limitations on human ingenuity.

China's spectacular performance broke barriers Furlong never thought could be broken, from the artistic performances to the lighting of the torch.

As a result, Vanoc's ceremonies planners will probably sweep away many ideas and rewrite them knowing that the Chinese just put on "the greatest show on earth," he said.

"David Atkins (Vanoc's executive producer of ceremonies) and his team will be going over every inch of this," Furlong said. "I can tell you that their minds will be racing with all the opportunities to put on a better show. It will be done in a very Canadian way."

Summer and winter Games are vastly different in many respects.

Different sports, different scale, different climate.

Vancouver's Games will have half the athletes, officials and media of Beijing's.

But one thing largely the same is the treatment of the opening and closing ceremonies.

Whether it is staging the pre-ceremonies show, making sure the media tribunes work, corralling and coordinating the performers or making sure every one of the seats has a guest package, the issues are similar from one Games to the next.

But it is the artistic performance and the parade of athletes that always draws the attention of the audience.

For Beijing, this ceremony was about linking China's history with its modernity while paying homage to the promises it made to the International Olympic Committee to make this "a green Games, a technological Games, a peoples' Games."

Furlong said that message came through loud and clear.

"I have to tell you that I had very high expectations when I came into the stadium," he said. "Beijing went far beyond what I expected. It was a stunning night. Anyone who underestimated the Chinese won't do that again.

"I mean, did you ever think you would see a torch-bearer running around the inside of the stadium roof?"

Beijing's stunning opening ceremony brings the 2010 Games into sharp focus.

In less than two years it will be Vancouver's turn, something that Premier Gordon Campbell said he is keenly aware of.

"It is hard to believe that the next time we will see athletes from every corner of the earth gathering together for a Games, it will be in 2010 in Vancouver."

Campbell said the ceremony left him both in awe at the Chinese ingenuity and excited about the opportunities Vancouver will have to put on just as great a show.

"It was mesmerizing, inspirational, and a real invitation to get to know China, all of its' history, from the start to the modern day," the premier said.

Campbell, who was critical of Vanoc for using cliched Canadian images during its segment of the closing ceremonies for the 2006 Turin Games, said he believes Vanoc will put on a performance that will cover the sweep Canadian history, culture and sport.

"I would hope that we would do a ceremony that takes in all of Canada, and would be as inspiring as this one was."

David Guscott, Vanoc's executive vice-president of celebrations and partnerships, had a chance to tour the stadium during the dress rehearsal. He said there is no comparing Beijing's event in scale to Vancouver's, and he was stunned by the size and logistical complexity of the project.

Underneath the cavernous stadium was a "rabbit warren of rooms and interconnecting hallways" where many of the estimated 15,000 performers and 2,000 handlers lived and practiced.

"I would describe it as organized confusion," he said. "A lot of the performers are from the military, and when you went into their rooms you'd find their backpacks and beds all in a perfect grid, parallel to one another. You'd go into another room where the performers weren't from the military and it was all a jumble."

Guscott said Vanoc doesn't have the budget to put on a spectacle like China's but it will capture the quintessential elements that make Canada what it is.

Unlike Beijing, Vanoc also doesn't expect its performers to live in the stadium, Guscott said.

He said Vanoc's creative concepts for the ceremonies are still under development until the end of the year, but already the committee is working with computer modeling to prevent the kind of bad camera imagery in Turin that led to Campbell's criticism.

"That all translates into a book and a script that will be used to make sure every part of the ceremony is properly choreographed," he said.

"What tonight was really was the breaking of barriers," Furlong said.

"While the bar has been set incredibly high, we've now got a target to aim above."

jefflee@vancouversun.com

gameseven07
August 8th, 2008, 10:45 PM
You get a Retractable Roof on that Stadium or forget about putting on any respectable looking show for the world to see.

Do something right or don't do it at all.

And banning me from SSP is just childish and stupid.

deasine
August 9th, 2008, 03:42 AM
Hoh first of all, you EVIDENTLY don't know who is boss. Clearly you have been ignoring all of my warnings.

I can tell you, if you continue this obnoxious behavior at SSC, you will be banished immediately.

DrT
August 9th, 2008, 05:53 PM
Vanoc has tough act to follow after Beijing opening


That was exactly what came out of my mouth last night watching the opening ceremonies in Beijing. I was awstruck.

Of course, the winter Olympics are smaller in scope, and, maybe a more "intimate" ceremony would be a welcome contrast.

This Beijing opening, the commentator mentioning it costs 10 times what they spent in Athens, does take the standard to another level.

gameseven07
August 10th, 2008, 04:49 AM
It is my hope that after the Premier sees how glorious a show it was, he will push to have the Retractable Roof done by 2010.

I'm hearing that in 2 weeks there will be a Zoning Application for the proposal around BC Place and this could put the Retractable Roof in limbo.

Does anyone have any details about this hearing? I will be showing up in a black vest with yellow trim.

Joe P
August 12th, 2008, 05:11 PM
I too hope for a retractable roof.

Seeing as how this is Vancouver's Games, I feel the flame should be visible in Vancouver's skyline as opposed to being hidden indoors.

D J M K
August 13th, 2008, 02:00 AM
yes i thought the opening ceremony was pretty cool, however, after i just thought it was just a huge meaningless spectacle. personally, i thought it was a huge waste of money which kinda had a slight propaganda message to it (even though i hate to say that)

i hope 2010 is nothing like this. i want gritty and dirty. i would love to see the lights stay on with nothing but bagpipes and mounties ushering the athletes in. maybe wayne gretzki can light the torch with a flaming puck....

unfortunately, i think our opening ceremonies will be a 3 hour homage to celine dion and the toque with a sprinkling of maple syrup, poutine, cowboy hats and touristy native stuff. i have a feeling that the ceremony will have nothing to do with BC or our culture or heritage. it will be a messy conglomeration of all canadian stereotypes that does no justice to anybody.

i pray that i am wrong :rant:

nonetheless, now i am really curious how they are going to light that torch.

DrT
August 13th, 2008, 03:35 AM
^^
Totally agree DJMK.

They spent way to much money to be a show of power and glory to the "system".

I think there is pressure to be all things to everyone for our opening ceremonies, and be all "inclusive", which will be a hodge-podge of all things "Canadian", which is the end is too diluted to represent anything relating to BC.

As you, I would also love to have the Mounties in full regalia escort the athletes during the opening. It is a wonderful symbol of Canada, glorifying a non-corrupt police force, which is an example to the world of what makes a country great and unlike many of the holes of the world.

Alphaville
August 13th, 2008, 03:57 AM
yes i thought the opening ceremony was pretty cool, however, after i just thought it was just a huge meaningless spectacle. personally, i thought it was a huge waste of money which kinda had a slight propaganda message to it (even though i hate to say that)



I think no matter what the World did, China was doomed to forever be judged as propaganda-- despite the fact it may have been.

I think Vancouver having an enclosed stadium is a chance to do something totally original, despite what it restricts.

As for having a hard act to follow from Beijing? I think that judgement will fall more on London. The Winter Olympics, globally, don't have the exposure of the Summer Olympiad, would their ceremonies would not be judged to the extent of the quad-annual event.

As for "Canadian things" -- the Olympics are international-- so that happens. It happend at Beijing, Turin, Athens, Salt Lake City, Sydney.. ("all things" Chinese/Italian/Greek/American/Australian) . As an Australian, in retrospect parts of Sydney's ceremonies were a huge cultural cringe. It's just apart of being the host nation.

urbanfan89
August 14th, 2008, 02:06 AM
As you, I would also love to have the Mounties in full regalia escort the athletes during the opening. It is a wonderful symbol of Canada, glorifying a non-corrupt police force, which is an example to the world of what makes a country great and unlike many of the holes of the world.

Hopefully they aren't armed with tasers.

It would be a big shock to the audience.

koolio
August 14th, 2008, 03:14 AM
Hopefully they aren't armed with tasers.

It would be a big shock to the audience.

LOL :D

spongeg
August 26th, 2008, 06:03 AM
maybe they can have some junkies dispersed into the crowd asking for just 10 cents that they are short for their lunch or their $5 hostel room (thats my fave when they ask that)

give the audience the true Vancouver experience

maldini
August 26th, 2008, 08:04 AM
They should ask some native Indians to perform during the show. Make sure the world does not know that the natives are still being abused and that their native lands were taken away from them for economic development.:)

mr.x
September 6th, 2008, 08:39 PM
The Beijing Paralympic Opening probably cost just as much as what Vancouver will spend on its 2010 Olympic opening:

http://img01.beijing2008.cn/20080906/Img214590201.jpg

http://img03.beijing2008.cn/20080907/Img214590318.jpg

http://img00.beijing2008.cn/20080906/Img214590219.jpg

http://img07.beijing2008.cn/20080906/Img214590279.jpg

http://img03.beijing2008.cn/20080906/Img214590203.jpg

http://img10.beijing2008.cn/20080906/Img214590074.jpg

http://img01.beijing2008.cn/20080906/Img214589618.jpg

http://img10.beijing2008.cn/20080906/Img214589637.jpg

Yellow Fever
September 7th, 2008, 03:55 AM
^^ How much?

deasine
September 7th, 2008, 11:35 AM
Ours is $40M

peacedot
September 10th, 2008, 12:43 AM
What Vancouver can make a wonderful opening ceremony, in my perception is: Respect Toronto and Montreal. Peace. We are all humanbeings, when China, a country that many western countries criticize about its human rights, and when many westerners who's never been there,
and they suddenly realize what a fabulous job that Chinese (and all the minority people, 56 of them) did and is keep on going, thanks for China, a good coach.

Yellow Fever
September 10th, 2008, 06:39 AM
^^ Don't know WTF you were talking about?

nova9
September 10th, 2008, 07:33 AM
Nonsensical english aside....well, no....i don't comprehend either.

My contribution, the differences between 2010 and 2008 are just, well, too different. I think as long as we just focus on putting a good show without the incumberences of oneupmanship, we'll get something wonderful. nothing in Canada besides the geography has ever been done in immense scales and we'll do fine to not forget that.


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