The Property Company Home Properties have acquired the rights to build a hotell in Arenastaden next to Mall of Scandinavia and Swedbank Arena.

Arenastaden is in the dense municipality Solna north of Stockholm. There is a commuter train station in the area. A LRT station will be built in the area by 2011. Solna Municipality also want to build a subway station in the same area. A skybar will be built on the top.

Links:
Arenastaden (http://arenastaden.se.loopiadns.com/hotell_och_konferens.php)
Jernhusen (http://www.jernhusen.se/templates/newspage.aspx?id=1326)
DN (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=801482)

http://arenastaden.se.loopiadns.com/files/images/hotellkonferens02.jpg

I like the design of this project. I think it is a bit to low though (no big surprise there ;)

This is what the proposed area will look like (the hotel is just beside the new arena):

http://www.yimby.se/Publishing/FileStore/d9483072-a506-4c04-9871-bbfe95d9fb34.jpg

Yimby in Stockholm has sent a "yttrande" (the groups opinion about the project) to Solna where we amongst other things provide this modified version:
http://www.yimby.se/Publishing/FileStore/be50ba49-2f59-4967-9846-b6b151ca8050.jpg

Now this is an excellent location for a building such as this, the area need more buildings like it too make this perfect.

Interesting proposals, hoping for the tallest version! :cheers:

Shouldn't the title be changed to approved for this one?

No. It's not approved yet so...

Ok, thought it was because it's already marketed or am I wrong again? :P

The project is here on the solna website:
http://www.solna.se/templates/Page_solna_submenu____32468.aspx

On display until 25:th of november.

Okay. :)

The new renders and it is now legal with 94 meters and 23 floors! An update would be great! :)
Don't know if it is still called Quality Hotel?

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/540/arenahotell02.png

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7729/arenahotell01s.png

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7062/arenahotell03.png

It looks very nice. Fingers crossed for this project. :)

Hm, I count 28 floors? :)

Hm, I count 28 floors? :)

Me too, but probably it's more than just one circle per floor. Perhaps that the ground floor and the top floor has more circles then the rest? höhö


(me from sweden, me no good english) ;)

Hm, I count 28 floors? :)

:lol: Priceless!

I wonder if they know themselves! :)

The quote bellow is where it says 23 floors
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=57442887&postcount=7969

but then it says:

Hotellrummen finns på plan 6-25. Högst upp finns även bar och gymavdelning. :lol:

It seems like 94 meter is agreed up on though!

Found this PDF-file:

http://www.solna.se/Global/Stadsbyggnad%20och%20trafik/Projekt/Nationalarenan/SBN_2010_436%20-%20Sektionsritning.pdf

:)

Found this PDF-file:

http://www.solna.se/Global/Stadsbyggnad%20och%20trafik/Projekt/Nationalarenan/SBN_2010_436%20-%20Sektionsritning.pdf

:)

Great find! Sadly it shows the tower being 81.5 meters and 24 floors tall. Very much within the norm for Stockholm "skyscrapers". Color me unimpressed. I wanted a real skyscrapers there, but I guess the investors and the city didn't want one.

^^

That is really stange since it says 94 meters on the Solna Kommun site:

Edit : The pdf posted above has an older date than the Solna kommun site below so that might explain why there are diffrent heights?
I'm hoping that Solna kommun is the correct one! :)

http://www.solna.se/sv/stadsbyggnad-trafik/nyheter-stadsbyggnad-trafik/hotell-och-konferensanlaggning-i-arenastaden/

Nope, the article is basically a press-release based on the .pdf (and related documents, I assume). There's a link from the article to the .pdf which it refers to as "hela ritningen".

They're calling it a landmark, but it won't be IMO. It's way to short to be the landmark when sitting next to the new arena (which is huge).

Nope, the article is basically a press-release based on the .pdf (and related documents, I assume). There's a link from the article to the .pdf which it refers to as "hela ritningen".

They're calling it a landmark, but it won't be IMO. It's way to short to be the landmark when sitting next to the new arena (which is huge).

But looking closer at the pdf it says 'krön + 94,00' but is it wrong then to look at that as the buildings height?
I don't understand, please explain? :) Why is it 81.5 meters and not 94 meters which it says it is?

94 m above what, is the question to always ask when looking at drawings like that. In this case it doesn't say, but it does say an even more relevant number: the elevation of the main entrance (in the same scale). In this case the entrance level is at +12.5.
94-12.5=81.5

This is the standard used so we can actually compare the different buildings.

94 m above what, is the question to always ask when looking at drawings like that. In this case it doesn't say, but it does say an even more relevant number: the elevation of the main entrance (in the same scale). In this case the entrance level is at +12.5.
94-12.5=81.5

This is the standard used so we can actually compare the different buildings.

I understand but this confuses me:

http://a.imageshack.us/img651/9543/arenay.png

if you begin to count from the dark grey does that mean that the first section of the arena to the left is underground? Surley it isn't or? Do you understand why I think it looks strange not counting the white part below the grey?

I'm not used to look at drawings like this but why not learn by asking? :)

Edit:

Earlier render but it shows that the entrance is on the overdecked part or what it now is called, but shouldn't one count the hotels hight from ground level and thus making it 94 meters? Instead of counting it from the overdecked part making it 81,5?

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6691/swedbankarena2.jpg

Overdecked part with the hotel continuing below it
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7062/arenahotell03.png

I'm probably way off here but I don't mind! ;)

If we counted from the ground level surrounding the building KST would be several meters taller. But it's main entrance we go by as an international standard. Basically, the concept is that with the new deck and entrance a new ground level is created. Areana's might be counted differently, since the function and planning of those is very different. In this case I'd count from the railway level, since the new deck is so small on most sides sompared to the area of the stadium.

If we counted from the ground level surrounding the building KST would be several meters taller. But it's main entrance we go by as an international standard. Basically, the concept is that with the new deck and entrance a new ground level is created. Areana's might be counted differently, since the function and planning of those is very different. In this case I'd count from the railway level, since the new deck is so small on most sides sompared to the area of the stadium.

I see thanks for explaining! :)

I think this is from the short side where the hotel will be built just to the right isn't it?

http://a.imageshack.us/img831/4318/arenastaden21280.jpg
So the bottom part above which now has gotten walls will be overdecked?

Although it looks like it will be opened down around the hotel doesn't it? Are there even stair there going down?
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7062/arenahotell03.png

Going by the main entrance sure can have some fun results since I think this is the main entrance to this building! :)
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6672/soder034b.jpg

It would be nice if this thread was updated with the new renders on the first post too! :)

Någon som vet statusen på hotellet? Känns som att bygget borde komma igång under början på detta år om de ska hinna bli färdigt samtidigt som arenan?

Någon som vet statusen på hotellet? Känns som att bygget borde komma igång under början på detta år om de ska hinna bli färdigt samtidigt som arenan?

At least it was ment to be finished at the same time as the arena.


Byggstart planeras till år 2009 och hotellet beräknas stå klart samtidigt som arenan, år 2012.

Will they be able to finish at the same time if starting 2011? I hope so!

The mall which also was supposed to be finished at the same time might not even happen now, not in that scale at least, it might turn out to be a much smaller one and instead they might build more housing and offices.

Jag fattar inte.
Skulle den inte se ut så här? :bash:
MYCKET snyggare iallafall.

http://www.jernhusen.se/upload/img/Quality%20Hotel%20Arenastaden%20Bild_500px.jpg

I sent an email to Solna city and asked them when construction would start on the hotel. The answer I got was that the hotel was given building permission last year, which I knew, and that they probably already has started building it. From the webcam it doesn't look like it, but I suppose it can't be very far away if the city think that they have started! :)

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/2011april.jpg

Correct?

^^

Is that what it is? Thank you for spotting it! That really makes me happy because I wan't to see it rising soon! :)

^^ Hmm.. I don't think that is for the hotel, i could be wrong though, because if you look at the renders the hotels position is more to the left than the pillars. I think the hotel will be placed by the woody things to the left.

^^ Hmm.. I don't think that is for the hotel, i could be wrong though, because if you look at the renders the hotels position is more to the left than the pillars. I think the hotel will be placed by the woody things to the left.

But what is clear is that they have started to build the section which will reach the hotel, I hope it won't take to long before they acctually start the hotel construction now! :)

Nice to see this thing under construction (which it probably is). I think the buildings looks great, hopefully it will look even better when completed. What about the five highrises? Are they going to start construction soon?

^^

Havn't heard anything about it.

I prey and hope by some sort of miracle that those highrises has been redesigned totally.

By the way for those that doesn't know it they do have their own thread:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=998919

I really do think Ingenioren was right! :)
To me it really doeslook like construction has started, or doesn't it? :)

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4285/2011maj.jpg

^^

Interesting. It certainly appears to be U/C. By judging from the picture above the high rise is very, very close to the arena.

Really hope you (and Ingenioren was) are right Bosco! Mot skyarna!

Really hope you (and Ingenioren was) are right Bosco! Mot skyarna!

Yes it would be great! There is so much fun in Stockholm with all construction going on and more are starting! :)

^^

Interesting. It certainly appears to be U/C. By judging from the picture above the high rise is very, very close to the arena.

Since you say they look close I'm thinking perhaps it is part of what will be holding up the deck and not the Highrise after all?

It says that the hotel will be finished by august 2013! :) An update to under construction please!

2011-05-30
Peab har fått uppdraget att bygga ett nytt hotell inom Arenastaden i Solna. Beställare är Pasab Fastighetsutveckling AB, som ägs av norrmännen Petter Stordalen och Arthur Buchardt. Kontraktssumman uppgår till 502 Mkr.

Hotellet ska byggas i nära anslutning till Swedbank Arena och det ska drivas av Nordic Choice Hotell A/S. Byggnaden kommer att bli 94 meter hög och rymma 399 hotellrum.

Arbetet har påbörjats och det beräknas vara klart i augusti 2013.

http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/view/pressrelease/peab-bygger-nytt-hotell-i-solna-642150

Första spadtaget togs idag! :)

http://www.solna.se/ImageVault/Images/height_640/conversionFormatType_WebSafe/width_415/conversionFormat_135/id_8706/ImageVaultHandler.aspx

http://www.solna.se/ImageVault/Images/conversionFormatType_WebSafe/width_415/conversionFormat_135/id_8705/ImageVaultHandler.aspx

Idag, 19 oktober, togs det första spadtaget för Arenastadens hotell och konferensanläggning. Byggnaden blir ett 94 meter högt landmärke som byggs i anslutning till Nationalarenan.

Hotellet beräknas står klart samtidigt som Nationalarenan 2012.

Petter A. Stordalen, ägare till hotellkedjan Choice Hotels, bjöd in alla närvarande att gemensamt ta det symboliska spadtaget som utgör startskottet för bygget.

http://www.solna.se/sv/om-solna/nyheter-om-solna/byggstart-for-nytt-landmarke-i-arenastaden/

I live close by and will try to update reguarly. I will acctually see it rise from my window/balcony... :)

The design is a little too boxy for me and not a good choice considering the rounded shape of the arena.

mayby they should have made it thiner and higher instead, and shape it like a spire. im ok whit d shape, but do not like the facade, it reminds me of some ugly golf ball. it looks like it belong in globen area but someone moved it.....but its a highrise so im happy.

I remember reading that the hotel is never ment to be the main focus, the arena is, so that is why they went for making it as 'simple' as it is.

I remember reading that the hotel is never ment to be the main focus, the arena is, so that is why they went for making it as 'simple' as it is.

yeah, a shame that it wont fill on regular events. exept for our nattional teams big games and concerts.

I remember reading that the hotel is never ment to be the main focus, the arena is, so that is why they went for making it as 'simple' as it is.
That's a rather strange argument imo. "Let's make it ugly so the arena gets better looking". :)

A hotel so close to the arena must have an integrating design with the arena.


But who knows. Sometimes the final result surprises you in a positive way.

And let us pray with all of our thumbs that they will change the design of the planned "Hötorgshusen lookalike" residentials near the arena.

That's a rather strange argument imo. "Let's make it ugly so the arena gets better looking". :)

A hotel so close to the arena must have an integrating design with the arena.


But who knows. Sometimes the final result surprises you in a positive way.

And let us pray with all of our thumbs that they will change the design of the planned "Hötorgshusen lookalike" residentials near the arena.

I don't think they intended to make it ugly though! :)
And personsally I don't hink it is ugly either! I rather like it!
But then intention just wasn't to make it a spectacular highrise building making it the main focus. Unfortunately although I like the arena that one isn't really spectacular design wise either.
I think they could have gone for making the hotel stick out architecturally, why would that have mattered?

I like it! it´s like a modern little brother to jardine house in hong kong.

Guess what the inspiration for the round windows are?

http://www.solna.se/ImageVault/Images/height_640/conversionFormatType_WebSafe/width_415/conversionFormat_135/id_8706/ImageVaultHandler.aspx

Just read about it today and it's quite fun.

When Wingårdh designed Victoria Tower then his inspiration was Charlotte Perellis microphone in 'Melodifestivalen' and this is even more odd! :)

I like it when inspiration comes from the most unexpected places.

Have a guess!

^^Cheese!

Guess what the inspiration for the round windows are?

http://www.solna.se/ImageVault/Images/height_640/conversionFormatType_WebSafe/width_415/conversionFormat_135/id_8706/ImageVaultHandler.aspx

Just read about it today and it's quite fun.

When Wingårdh designed Victoria Tower then his inspiration was Charlotte Perellis microphone in 'Melodifestivalen' and this is even more odd! :)

I like it when inspiration comes from the most unexpected places.

Have a guess!

I can only think of those small dots on the lower part of car windows...:lol:

The inspiration is Zlatan and the sweat pearls he had on his forehead after a game the architect watched! :)

A newspaper now calls the building 'Zlatanskrapan'.

The inspiration is Zlatan and the sweat pearls he had on his forehead after a game the architect watched! :)

A newspaper now calls the building 'Zlatanskrapan'.

:lol: :nuts:

So for Wingårdh this microphone became this building:

http://www.expressen.se/polopoly_fs/1.1331778!slot100slotWide75ArticleFull/3447786819.jpg http://www.svd.se/multimedia/dynamic/00450/Victoria-Tower00_450463d.jpg

And this mans sweat pearls became this building:

http://cdnstatic.expressen.se/polopoly/bilder/2011/04/20/1.2410010TS1303310856236_slot100slotWide75ArticleFull.jpg http://www.solna.se/ImageVault/Images/height_640/conversionFormatType_WebSafe/width_415/conversionFormat_135/id_8706/ImageVaultHandler.aspx

I love it when people get inspired by odd things! :)

^^

Artikeln i sin helhet:

Sidan 5
http://epaper.mitti.se/edoris?tem=epaper_miso#

I hate to sound overly cynical, but I think it would benefit Mr Wingård greatly to look at more accomplished architects for inspiration, rather than glitter and sweat. :)

Från Solna stads hemsida: "Byggnaden blir ett 94 meter högt landmärke som byggs i anslutning till Nationalarenan."
Är det samma höjdräkningsstandard som används på vissa angivelser? Alltså "höjd från havet" eller har de höjt byggprojektet? Det står ju 81,5 m på tråden. :nuts: OF

^^

Som jag kommer ihåg det så var det Swede som drog ifrån eftersom det byggs en ramp några meter upp som blir ny marknivå.

På bilden nedan så märks det att hotellet fortsätter ner under den upphöjda nya marknivån.
95 meters höjd från den egentliga marknivån då?

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9425/arenahotell03.jpg

En bild som visar rampen (som jag kaller den) bättre:

http://www.swedbankarena.se/images/bildbank/Fasad_skymning.tif

Exactly, this is just like La Défense... As long as the building is completly surrounded by the plattau it would be wrong to include the "basement levels."

The design reminds me of the sony logo http://www.goodlogo.com/extended.info/2763

I wonder if this acctually is the hotel going up to the right of the picture?
But it is a bit far from the arena isn't it, I thought it would be closer?

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7964/unledqof.png

Arena.... Hotel.... Bridge....

Arena.... Hotel.... Bridge....

I see thanks! I only thought about the bridge further down the area.

I read 90m in Aftonbladet today. Media and numbers....:ohno:
Anyway it is still tall to be in Sweden. When will construction begin? I have added it to the SSP diagram.:)

I read 90m in Aftonbladet today. Media and numbers....:ohno:
Anyway it is still tall to be in Sweden. When will construction begin? I have added it to the SSP diagram.:)

Den 19 oktober togs det första spadtaget men jag tror ändå inte att det märks så mycket. Jag ser i alla fall inget på den web cam som finns uppe över området.

idag, 19 oktober, togs det första spadtaget för Arenastadens hotell och konferensanläggning. Byggnaden blir ett 94 meter högt landmärke som byggs i anslutning till Nationalarenan.


http://www.solna.se/sv/om-solna/nyheter-om-solna/byggstart-for-nytt-landmarke-i-arenastaden/

http://webbkameror.se/byggkameror/arenastaden/index.php

Som jag kommer ihåg det så var det Swede som drog ifrån eftersom det byggs en ramp några meter upp som blir ny marknivå.
95 meters höjd från den egentliga marknivån då?

Exactly, this is just like La Défense... As long as the building is completly surrounded by the plattau it would be wrong to include the "basement levels."
Exakt så! hade det bara varit hotellet som hade en terrass runt om så hade det varit från "jorden" som räknats, men eftersom denna upphöjning är så stor till ytan och innefattar/omfamnar :D flera andra byggnader...

^^

Jag har ju alltid tyckt att det är lite märkligt att göra så men det är bara att acceptera! :)

^Varför märkligt? garagevåningar beukar ju inte inkluderas, och huvudentré mot gatuplan tycker iaf jag är en logisk 0-nivå när man ska jämföra hur höga hus är. Annars känns det som man lika gärna kan ta med t.ex. höjdskillnaden på marken Victoria Tower står på jämfört med den Science Tower står på.

^^

Det är bara en personlig åsikt baserat på att det inte är slutet, utan det är öppet på sidan till den nedre 'egentliga' nivån om du förstår vad jag menar.

Fast det är bara en personlig åsikt och den kan vara hur fel som helst men det är vad jag tycker! :)

Nu är huset på väg upp! Första fasadbitarna har kommit på plats:
http://www.liveevent.se/arenastaden/arenastaden_2_1280.jpg?counter=1337090719425

Häftigt. Lite förvånad att man börjar montera fasaden så tidigt. Än så länge så är det svårt att ens se var själva hotellet ligger när man åker förbi med pendeln, då själva byggnaden inte har börjat resa sig över däcket ännu.

The facade is rising I see (Unusual sentence...). I think I will enjoy this building more than I thought I would. It also gives a nice "shape clash" with the arena facade.

But isn't the construction a bit weird, as pointed out? Why are they putting up the facade so early? You usually see the core first at least.

Det där är nog inte fasaden! för jag hoppas verkligen inte alla skarvar ska synas på det färdiga huset! dom flesta bilderna visar en rätt blank fasad så hoppas det ska bli så också!

^^

Hoppas då verkligen att det inte är fasaden. Fantastiskt att se byggnaden resa sig högre och högre. :)

^^
^^Ah, makes sense! Maybe they are building it like this to give a better impression for the debut of the stadium or something.

Yeah the facade looks pretty cheap with those visible prefab seams. Surely no serious architect would design a high profile building using... Oh wait, didn't Wingårdhs design this building? Nevermind then!

Judging from the several pictures seen on the net, the project looks quite promissing. Of course, the round windows of a different size create the likeable variety factor. :)

Fasaden ser lite plastig ut, jag hoppas det bara är tillfälligt. Annars är detta är mycket intressant projekt att följa.

En till våning på väg upp! :)

Nu är huset på väg upp! Första fasadbitarna har kommit på plats:
http://www.liveevent.se/arenastaden/arenastaden_2_1280.jpg?counter=1337090719425

En till:

http://www.liveevent.se/arenastaden/arenastaden_1_1280.jpg?counter=1341950241692

Two pics from today.
http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q566/neopokekun2/construction/solna/qualityhotelarenastaden01.jpg

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q566/neopokekun2/construction/solna/qualityhotelarenastaden02.jpg

http://pixholder.com/upload/1347129457.jpg

^^

That didn't look nice!

How does those dark grey parts look like when you see it for real and up close?


http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q566/neopokekun2/construction/solna/qualityhotelarenastaden02.jpg

Are they going to put cladding ontop of that facade on the hotel? Because it looks pretty bad with those lines...

Anyway, thanks for the update!

How does those dark grey parts look like when you see it for real and up close?
You can see a little bit closer here:

http://pixholder.com/upload/1347145610.jpg

I didn't liked it very much. Reminded me of this failure:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/3181672773_4cfd68b338.jpg?v=1231512004

http://pixholder.com/upload/1347129457.jpg

I know I've said it before... but I fucking hate Wingårdhs.

You can see a little bit closer here:

http://pixholder.com/upload/1347145610.jpg

I didn't liked it very much. Reminded me of this failure:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/3181672773_4cfd68b338.jpg?v=1231512004

It seems to be quite popular. Several more projects in Stockholm has got that dark grey stuff going on.

^True. But I believe the Fail he was refering to was that the intention there was for the pre-fab edges to be invisible while the flower-pattern was supposed to be highly visible.

^True. But I believe the Fail he was refering to was that the intention there was for the pre-fab edges to be invisible while the flower-pattern was supposed to be highly visible.
Both the visible pre-fab edges but also the pre-fab look in general. Also, I'm not a big fan of dark gray concrete, but that's my personal opinion. But I guess it's cheap to build that way?

^True. But I believe the Fail he was refering to was that the intention there was for the pre-fab edges to be invisible while the flower-pattern was supposed to be highly visible.

Ok, but the question I asked about was the dark grey and which he then answered. :)

Wow, it looks awful.

I actually e-mailed the labor chef on Peab that takes care of this project, and he answered me with this (in swedish):

''Kul att du är intresserad av vårt projekt. Jag ska försöka svara på dina frågor.
Huset monteras ihop med sk sandwichelement. Elementen består av 3 skikt som är stomme, isolering och fasad i ett. De gjuts på fabrik och monteras på plats. Skarvarna kommer att fogas och hela fasaden ska tvättas och målas.''

Edit:
Hej,
Byggtiden kortas med ca 3 månader på detta sätt. Huset når full höjd i mars( om vintern blir snäll). Fasadjobben Kräver värme så dom startar i April.

Edit 2 :-):

Hotellet Öppnar i September nästa år.

^^

Känner någon till ett exempel på ett byggnad som redan är uppförd där man gjort på samma sätt?

^^

Känner någon till ett exempel på ett byggnad som redan är uppförd där man gjort på samma sätt?

Hur såg det ut när man byggde Kungsholmsporten? Kanske inte var särskilt mycket fogande samt målning och tvättning av dem husen, men ritades ju av samma arkitektbyrå.

Hur såg det ut när man byggde Kungsholmsporten? Kanske inte var särskilt mycket fogande samt målning och tvättning av dem husen, men ritades ju av samma arkitektbyrå.

Och det som ut som skit. Kungsholmsportens fasad är något av det sämsta jag har sett.

Och det som ut som skit. Kungsholmsportens fasad är något av det sämsta jag har sett.

Hehe, var väl inte det mest lyckade slutresultatet :-)
Vi får väl hoppas att detta blir bättre med tanke på att fasaden kommer fixas till och förhoppningsvis likna renderingarna!

Jag har i alla fall aldrig hört eller läst att Kungsholmsporten skulle ha blivit målad i efterhand.

^^

Känner någon till ett exempel på ett byggnad som redan är uppförd där man gjort på samma sätt?

Borde vara samma princip som för ett vanligt bostadshus som tillåter synliga skarvar i putsen, dock byggs väl dessa så fort så man bara ser det slutliga resultatet!

Borde vara samma princip som för ett vanligt bostadshus som tillåter synliga skarvar i putsen, dock byggs väl dessa så fort så man bara ser det slutliga resultatet!

Jag kanske övertolkade det man skulle göra, för jag uppfattade det som att det skulle bli ett väldigt speciellt och annorlunda resultat. Kanske den feta stilen på 'hela fasaden ska tvättas och målas' som fick mig att tro det. :)

Jag kanske övertolkade det man skulle göra, för jag uppfattade det som att det skulle bli ett väldigt speciellt och annorlunda resultat. Kanske den feta stilen på 'hela fasaden ska tvättas och målas' som fick mig att tro det. :)

Om jag tolkade arbetschefen rätt så menar han att man kommer foga samtliga skarvar samt måla och tvätta resten av fasaden så den blir slät och fin som på bilderna :-)

Edit: Om ni vill kontakta arbetschefen kan ni skicka ett PM så får ni mejl-adressen.

^^

Vi får hoppas att resultatet blir bra. :)

Det får vi hoppas!

Eftersom att fasaden i vår kommer bearbetas kan vi ju hoppas att linjerna försvinner och fasaden blir vit och fin! Det kan väl knappast bli sämre än det är nu? :-)

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q566/neopokekun2/qualityhotelarenastaden03_zps3b6990ca.jpg

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q566/neopokekun2/qualityhotelarenastaden04_zps42b35513.jpg

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q566/neopokekun2/qualityhotelarenastaden05_zpsdf8b7722.jpg

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q566/neopokekun2/qualityhotelarenastaden06_zps712e7624.jpg

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http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q566/neopokekun2/qualityhotelarenastaden08_zps593d3812.jpg

mellanrummen ser hämska ut! Hoppas verkligen dom ska täcka dom! annars gillar jag huset!!

Tack för uppdateringen!

The façade has grown on me. My family who have been visiting Stockholm (hence my lack of updates) really quite liked it too - said it was very striking architecture and quite different to the rest of the city.

The difference between the small and big windows should have been bigger. Up close it just looks like a mess and the "rings pattern" cant be seen unless you are really far away. A shame because so many will see this building up close.


Great updates K-J N :okay:

I'm still withholding judgement on the facade. The pattern of windows isn't nearly as important to me as the lines between the prefab elements. I'm not holding out much hope there tho, most likely it'll keep looking like it does now with the lines way to visible.


btw - can a mod change the status on this one? it is clearly u/c now :)

Some more pictures of the new hotel:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8592270823_2f0392f2c7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/soldyrkaren/8592270823/)
Friends Arena grönpyntad (http://www.flickr.com/photos/soldyrkaren/8592270823/) par soldyrkaren (http://www.flickr.com/people/soldyrkaren/), sur Flickr

http://i.imgur.com/GLm9YCq.jpg?1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/malter/8507937422/

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8524/8482971400_552ea03117_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482971400/)
Arenastaden Quality Hotel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482971400/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8527/8482971888_595d36d01e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482971888/)
Arenastaden Quality Hotel Potain MD 560 B M25 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482971888/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8392/8482973374_147876f447_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482973374/)
Potain MD 560B M25 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482973374/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8374/8481886409_9612ef5fdf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8481886409/)
Potain MD 560B M25 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8481886409/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8384/8481887013_452007f6ae_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8481887013/)
Potain MD 560B M25 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8481887013/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8520/8482968524_d14a2702eb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482968524/)
Potain MD 560B M25 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482968524/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8371/8481884807_f390160174_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8481884807/)
Potain MD 560B M25 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8481884807/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

Some more pictures of the new hotel:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8592270823_2f0392f2c7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/soldyrkaren/8592270823/)
Friends Arena grönpyntad (http://www.flickr.com/photos/soldyrkaren/8592270823/) par soldyrkaren (http://www.flickr.com/people/soldyrkaren/), sur Flickr

http://i.imgur.com/GLm9YCq.jpg?1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/malter/8507937422/

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8524/8482971400_552ea03117_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482971400/)
Arenastaden Quality Hotel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482971400/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8527/8482971888_595d36d01e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482971888/)
Arenastaden Quality Hotel Potain MD 560 B M25 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482971888/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8392/8482973374_147876f447_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482973374/)
Potain MD 560B M25 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482973374/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8374/8481886409_9612ef5fdf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8481886409/)
Potain MD 560B M25 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8481886409/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8384/8481887013_452007f6ae_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8481887013/)
Potain MD 560B M25 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8481887013/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8520/8482968524_d14a2702eb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482968524/)
Potain MD 560B M25 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8482968524/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8371/8481884807_f390160174_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8481884807/)
Potain MD 560B M25 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24116224@N05/8481884807/) par Potain Lady (http://www.flickr.com/people/24116224@N05/), sur Flickr

Beautiful pics!

Indeed, very cool pictures! Especially the ones taken from the point of view of the crane!

The hotel from my balcony :) Whit Both arenas :)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4052/arenastadencustom.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/arenastadencustom.jpg/)

I saw this hotel up close yesterday when I went to Friends Arena, and I'm not a fan. The white face and the round windows remind me too much of Ericsson Globe Arena (which I dislike). Honestly I see very few qualities to this building in general. It lacks elegance, it lacks distinguishing features, it's not elegant at all. It's a shame since I think the arena turned out pretty well, especially lit up at night. Communications-wise it's pretty much a disaster though.

^^ Exactly, the arena is a public transport nightmare at the moment and I wonder how much this new bridge to it from Solna station will improve things...

I do like the hotel building, though.

^^ Exactly, the arena is a public transport nightmare at the moment and I wonder how much this new bridge to it from Solna station will improve things...

I do like the hotel building, though.

I guess the parking situation must be remedied partly through the shopping center they intend to build? Mall of Scandinavia probably needs a lot of parking, which I guess could in part double as parking for the arena. But building an arena with 50 000 seats, no parking, no turn-zone for shuttle buses and 15-20 minutes to the nearest train station is insane. This saturday people were walking in the middle of the street to get to Solna centrum metro station, through neighbourhoods with apartment buildings. I was thinking of the situation after a football game with thousands of drunk and potentially angry (or happy for that matter) fans... I would not like to have my car parked in that neigbourhood then.

The fun thing is that we very nearly bought an apartment there a few years ago. It was great, a balcony towards the lake Råstasjön and very quiet. But it's not that quiet any more...

I guess the parking situation must be remedied partly through the shopping center they intend to build? Mall of Scandinavia probably needs a lot of parking, which I guess could in part double as parking for the arena. But building an arena with 50 000 seats, no parking, no turn-zone for shuttle buses and 15-20 minutes to the nearest train station is insane. This saturday people were walking in the middle of the street to get to Solna centrum metro station, through neighbourhoods with apartment buildings. I was thinking of the situation after a football game with thousands of drunk and potentially angry (or happy for that matter) fans... I would not like to have my car parked in that neigbourhood then.

The last thing one wants to encourage is getting to the game by car. Drunken fans and what not are massive problems in undisciplined Europe. Mass transit is the primary (and best way) to get to stadiums by far. Plus, aren't we meant to be making Stockholm less reliant upon cars rather than more?

Stupid lack of foresight by the council though and now we're still um'ing and ah'ing about a tunnelbana extension.

The last thing one wants to encourage is getting to the game by car. Drunken fans and what not are massive problems in undisciplined Europe. Mass transit is the primary (and best way) to get to stadiums by far. Plus, aren't we meant to be making Stockholm less reliant upon cars rather than more?

Stupid lack of foresight by the council though and now we're still um'ing and ah'ing about a tunnelbana extension.

But the problem is that people will be going by car whether we want them to or not, and not building parking spaces will just create a chaotic situation. Especially since the public transportation to this arena is not up to standard. It was different with Råsunda which was five minutes from the metro, and close to Solna centrum which is served by a lot of bus lines. Of course we should encourage people to use public transportation (a necessity in Stockholm considering the poorly dimensioned infrastructure for cars), but I believe more in the carrot than in the stick. If they really want people to take the train or the bus, make sure that it's easy.

The metro extensions are many years into the future, I wouldn't rely on that for anything at the moment.

But the problem is that people will be going by car whether we want them to or not, and not building parking spaces will just create a chaotic situation. Especially since the public transportation to this arena is not up to standard. It was different with Råsunda which was five minutes from the metro, and close to Solna centrum which is served by a lot of bus lines. Of course we should encourage people to use public transportation (a necessity in Stockholm considering the poorly dimensioned infrastructure for cars), but I believe more in the carrot than in the stick. If they really want people to take the train or the bus, make sure that it's easy.

The metro extensions are many years into the future, I wouldn't rely on that for anything at the moment.

But there will be the pendeltåg bridge extension at least. That might help, but like I said in my previous post that won't be ideal until Citybanan is finished and frequency ramped up. As for driving vs. public transport, well, push factors such as limiting parking do help. Stops people being lazy.

But there will be the pendeltåg bridge extension at least. That might help, but like I said in my previous post that won't be ideal until Citybanan is finished and frequency ramped up. As for driving vs. public transport, well, push factors such as limiting parking do help. Stops people being lazy.

Sure, it can help, as long as there is also a reality check involved. With Friends Arena, the reality check was completely omitted and they built the arena like an island. No logical access road, no parking, no transfer, no train, no dedicated path to walk from the station... I live att Brommaplan now and I went to the "plansamråd" held by the Stockholm municipality where they presented the plans to build 800 new apartments on top of Brommaplan, and on top of today's bus station. Some people had the same idea that I did, what will happen to (a) traffic from all the places beyond Brommaplan like Vällingby and Ekerö, commuter parking etc? (b) the load on the metro and buses? The answer we got was that "this is the project to build housing, traffic is another future project that we know nothing about and haven't prepared for today"... It's unbelievable.

Citybanan is a great project, but it has the "Södra länken"-disease written all over it, too little too late... It should have been built ten years ago.

Sure, it can help, as long as there is also a reality check involved. With Friends Arena, the reality check was completely omitted and they built the arena like an island. No logical access road, no parking, no transfer, no train, no dedicated path to walk from the station... I live att Brommaplan now and I went to the "plansamråd" held by the Stockholm municipality where they presented the plans to build 800 new apartments on top of Brommaplan, and on top of today's bus station. Some people had the same idea that I did, what will happen to (a) traffic from all the places beyond Brommaplan like Vällingby and Ekerö, commuter parking etc? (b) the load on the metro and buses? The answer we got was that "this is the project to build housing, traffic is another future project that we know nothing about and haven't prepared for today"... It's unbelievable.

Citybanan is a great project, but it has the "Södra länken"-disease written all over it, too little too late... It should have been built ten years ago.

Agreed, they should have addressed the public transport issue right from the start. Once something is built, if the infrastructure is not in place from the start it is much, much harder to encourage people to use it if they are not accustomed to using it right from the start. Fingers crossed the walkway from Solna Station will be of a high enough quality to move the vast number of people that matches and other events at Friends will generate.

Just for a little off-topic because I like discussions like this: Brommaplan tunnelbanestation definitely has additional capacity - especially during rush hour as it garners quite a significant frequency. With 9 car trains running the number of people it can shift is quite substantial based upon the performance of metro systems abroad. Osaka Subway which heaves a vast number more commuters around than the Stockholm tunnelbana has a tph (trains per hour) of 24, compared to Brommaplan having 25tph between 7:00 and 8:00. This shows that the capacity is definitely there on the system to handle extra commuters at Brommaplan.

Commuter parking in Bromma should not be encouraged (or should be heavily charged for). The bus services to Ekerö are surprisingly good and more than sufficient for the population there. For buses between Bromma and other suburbs on tangital connections - that will be improved by the Tvärbanan from Alvik through to the north-western suburbs (Solna and Sundbyberg) to speed up connections there too, giving commuters yet more options. What additional loading on the buses or parking would you see for constructing apartments on top of the bus station? I mean the main concern I would have is "where would the bus terminal go"?

I do agree that Citybanan should have been built earlier but it is being built and in conjunction with other improvement measures for the Pendeltåg so at least something is happening.

The station at Brommaplan has a great capacity if you consider the trains passing by, but not so great considering the station itself. Very narrow stairs, since they switched the turnstiles to these plastic doors the capacity there is also too low, the ability to pass through with a pram is also unacceptable. So it really needs a refit, but I guess that was also in the plans for a remodeling of Brommaplan in general.

I definitely think that commuter parking should be encouraged, although commuter parking serving Brommaplan does not necessarily need to be placed AT Brommaplan... Preferably it should be located for instance at a major bus station in Ekerö. There is commuter parking in Åkeshov, Råcksta and Johannelund that I know of and they seem to work fine.

And the additional load for parking and buses on Brommaplan would of course be from the residents in the 800 planned apartments. Most of them will probably commute somewhere and many of them will have cars (no matter what Miljöpartiet thinks about it). The parking situation is already awful with commuters parking in our neighbourhood where parking on the street is free, which causes problems for the people living here who own a car.

The bus station will be under the new apartment buildings, the drawings I have seen look a lot like Liljeholmen. I can't find any great drawings right now, but this gives a general idea of the layout.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/830/brommaplan.jpg

A few pics of Arenastaden from the heights of Råsunda (2013.04.11)

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2013/130411_arenastaden/130411_arenastaden_6375_v1.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2013/130411_arenastaden/130411_arenastaden_6345_v1.jpg

From the left side you can see: Friends Arena, Quality Hotel Friends, the first of Fribiljetten's residential buildings...

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2013/130411_arenastaden/130411_arenastaden_6377_v1.jpg

... Mall of Scandinavia, "Uarda 1 - Hus A" office building and Vattenfall's main office:

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2013/130411_arenastaden/130411_arenastaden_6346_v1.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2013/130411_arenastaden/130411_arenastaden_6430_v1.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2013/130411_arenastaden/130411_arenastaden_6477_v1.jpg

Friends Arena facing Råstasjön (with hungry eyes ;)):

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2013/130411_arenastaden/130411_arenastaden_6452_v1.jpg

Cool aerial by Arild Vågen (February 2013)

The old National Stadium and the new one :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/R%C3%A5sunda_February_2013_02.jpg/1280px-R%C3%A5sunda_February_2013_02.jpg
Source: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:R%C3%A5sunda_February_2013_02.jpg Foto: Arild Vågen

Full resolution: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/R%C3%A5sunda_February_2013_02.jpg


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More aerial photos of Stockholm by Arild Vågen: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_by_Arild_V%C3%A5gen-Aerial_photography

I think I saw this tower from up on the ridge between Telefonplan and Aspudden yesterday. There are a few 1990s 4 storey residentials up there. The view from one of the few places on the ground that didn't have trees blocking was awesome! There was a white tower I couldn't quite place tho, but I guess it was this one.

EDIT: yeah, looked it up on google maps. It was the Nya Råsunda Hotel!

/I want an apartment with a view like that.

Great thread here! I worked on the Quality Hotel on the large Potain tower crane. Some of my photos are featured here. Kind Regards!

The pictures you made are great! Thank you. :)

Welcome to the forum!

Great thread here! I worked on the Quality Hotel on the large Potain tower crane. Some of my photos are featured here. Kind Regards!

Thanks for the pics! and like dj4life said: welcome to the forum :)

Thank you for the warm welcome! I was happy to find a forum discussing this hotel and seeing some photos from a different perspective other than sitting in my crane!

I love the aerial view! Just some higher than my view! :)

Thank you for the warm welcome! I was happy to find a forum discussing this hotel and seeing some photos from a different perspective other than sitting in my crane!

I love the aerial view! Just some higher than my view! :)

Welcome to the forum! :)

Do you happen to have any info about the small spaces between each "window square" on the hotel? Do you know how they will take care of it?

I have to be honest. Arenastaden has the most ugly architecture I've seen. Let's go back to the 70's, architects had more creativity back then...

The vattenfall building looks unfinished to me, but other than that I don't think it's ugly per se. The hotel is quite nice actually, and the arena is very cool from up close. The highrises are not THAT bad, but the fact that there's 5 of them is quite bad. The black rectangular box next to the arena is ugly, though.

I think everything will look at bit better when there's more density in the area.

Welcome to the forum! :)

Do you happen to have any info about the small spaces between each "window square" on the hotel? Do you know how they will take care of it?

Thank you for the welcome!

Each section was filled after setting so there are no actual spaces... however they could do a cosmetic fill to take care of the appearance of a gap. They should at minimum clean up some of the spills from the filling that gushed out and can be noticed.

I have to be honest. Arenastaden has the most ugly architecture I've seen. Let's go back to the 70's, architects had more creativity back then...

Weren't 60's and 70's the golden age of 'shoe boxes'?

I have to be honest. Arenastaden has the most ugly architecture I've seen. Let's go back to the 70's, architects had more creativity back then...

I agree. The hotel itself looks awful and uninviting (I'm not a fan of having only circular windows) and the buildings surrounding it are just coloured boxes. A wasted opportunity.

I agree. The hotel itself looks awful and uninviting (I'm not a fan of having only circular windows) and the buildings surrounding it are just coloured boxes. A wasted opportunity.

Yes, I'm definitely not a fan of the hotel, and I don't like it more now than the first time I saw it (which is a bad sign). I still think the white facade and round windows remind me too much about Ericsson Globe which I seriously dislike.

I don't like the surrounding buildings either. The architecture feels quite muted and dull, I'm not convinced about the green hues at all. I think I've said it before, but I really like the arena itself so it's a shame that the surrounding buildings are not more attractive. Especially the Vattenfall-building looks depressing with it's completely flat facade, dark colour and darker windows. In Sweden where it's already dark most of the year, this should be avoided.