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It looks as if the core's starting to speed ahead of the floorplates / podium on 1FWP now (I counted at least 3 maybe 4 levels above the podium now) - may have been a core rise just over the weekend, and

2SB's core's have risen half a level, almost going to have L14 exposed.

Think it's fair to say 2SB's core is now 1/3 of its full height

Levels for core: 14/38

And the tower is certainly now taking shape. Not long til we see some GLASS.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/07/201409.jpg

thought might want this from archived thread.

pix by Tays-

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp3010031.jpg

Is this the first site which isn't labelling level 13 ? (superstitious bastards! :))

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp3010032.jpg

oh yeah ^^ core rise.

No Cul - Crown Towers famously does not have level 13.

Did anyone else see the Freshwater Place ads in the ad break just before the Melbourne Cup ??????

:guns1: :guns1: :guns1:

Yes - but I must admit I wasn't really paying attention.

I saw them! Played in quite a few of the ad breaks! Bloody awesome ads! Eureka in view looks great!

Pretty recent helicopter shots too Eureka looks level with IBM..

Kasper: yeah, I'd say only 6 - 8 weeks old (the footage)

BigV: I wasn't either, until I heard "new landmark" - and I thought it was E, but up - good old FWP :guns1:

will be interesting to see how successful the ads were - would have cost Australand a CRAPLOAD of money for just before the race!

Yeah ditto on the TV Ad!!

I saw it yesterday too and first I thought - 'Hmm this is a nice heli view down the Yarra canyon.. will look great when E is up' ..

Then realised that the E appears almost the height it is now, and looks awesome too at less than half height!!! So yes the ad must have been shot v.recently..

Then finally the reveal at the end that its FWP .. which also looks great..

Can't wait to see that canyon shot when all the big boys are up ... along with E&Y on the right side to fill out as well..

I have to agree with everyone else the Ads were awesome and very well done I wonder if they were shown right around the country?

Meanwhile, while people bitch and moan about the Unions and Eureka - Freshwater Place was running HOT today (Thur 7/11)

- 1FWP's now has labels!!!
- 1FWP main core = level 7 exposed, 9 to the top of the corebox (probably more like 8.5, it doesn't look like a full 2 floor height corebox)
- 1FWP's podium is most certainly halfway home, I stood infront of the main rendering outside Pac.Internet HQ and compared it to the actual thing, once they've done the roof of these two floors their doing right now, it'll be beyond half way.
- 2SB's core is starting to really look high now ("duh" :P)
- CURVE IT UP - Curve HAS APPEARED (see rendering above) - can only see it from the bridge, subtle right now, but bring it on :guns1:
- The first TWO floors of the tower / office space itself are on their way, next two shortly

:guns1:

No pics, and won't be any til:

- more people start posting, can't be bothered posting pics, only to come across no-one's replied when I go to post the next batch - why should I or anyone else for that matter bother?, plus
- waiting for new camera.

Originally posted by tayser
Meanwhile, while people bitch and moan about the Unions and Eureka - Freshwater Place was running HOT today (Thur 7/11)

- 1FWP's now has labels!!!
- 1FWP main core = level 7 exposed, 9 to the top of the corebox (probably more like 8.5, it doesn't look like a full 2 floor height corebox)
- 1FWP's podium is most certainly halfway home, I stood infront of the main rendering outside Pac.Internet HQ and compared it to the actual thing, once they've done the roof of these two floors their doing right now, it'll be beyond half way.
- 2SB's core is starting to really look high now ("duh" :P)
- CURVE IT UP - Curve HAS APPEARED (see rendering above) - can only see it from the bridge, subtle right now, but bring it on :guns1:
- The first TWO floors of the tower / office space itself are on their way, next two shortly

:guns1:

No pics, and won't be any til:

- more people start posting, can't be bothered posting pics, only to come across no-one's replied when I go to post the next batch - why should I or anyone else for that matter bother?, plus
- waiting for new camera.

All the threads seem to be slowing down quite noticeibly lately with not that many posts, maybe people are getting bored with the topics or are having Uni exams

probably a mixture of both really: I have exams as well.

But it takes more than one person to make a thread "interesting". :)

Originally posted by bearbrass
All the threads seem to be slowing down quite noticeibly lately with not that many posts, maybe people are getting bored with the topics or are having Uni exams

Year 12 exams! finish all next wednesday...I haven't been on here in a while.....I'll take some pics soon! I love this development!

Thanks for the update tays! Now get back and study!

When you say the curve has started? How have they started it when they haven't finished the podium? I thought the curve only happened above the podium?

Originally posted by kasperluke


Thanks for the update tays! Now get back and study!


YESSIR!

Originally posted by kasperluke

When you say the curve has started? How have they started it when they haven't finished the podium? I thought the curve only happened above the podium?

It is above the podium, they've structurally completed it, it's just the fine details / facade / cladding & what not they have to do :)

Originally posted by Blabbyboy
No Cul - Crown Towers famously does not have level 13.
blabby, that was one of taysers posts transfered to this new thread. he was the one asking about level 13.-read the post?

tays- thanks for updates! (its starting to look tall)lol:D

enjoy, thats it for a while, someone else can take some photos

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483f1.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483f2.jpg

Nice pics Marko. I love that angle. The Southbank dev. (FWP and big E) look best from that side of the yarra. Still can't wait to see it (Southbank) in a year or two.

P.S. Anyone got any more news on the 3rd FWP tower? Is it sill a goer or is it only proposed?

Like Prima, I hope that the 3rd tower starts soon, as these two additions (plus the others on Southbank already U/C) will just make it look bloody fantastic.

That's Quality

Originally posted by Richo
Nice pics Marko. I love that angle. The Southbank dev. (FWP and big E) look best from that side of the yarra. Still can't wait to see it (Southbank) in a year or two.

P.S. Anyone got any more news on the 3rd FWP tower? Is it sill a goer or is it only proposed?

Like Prima, I hope that the 3rd tower starts soon, as these two additions (plus the others on Southbank already U/C) will just make it look bloody fantastic.
yeah i contacted bates smart a few weeks back and asked about the 3rd tower . The architect said its now a mixed tower )office/res) and wont start now until 2006.

Great pics silvermb! Only thing I don't like in each pic is the color of the Yarra :puke:

When are they going to do something about it? For an area that is going to be the show piece for Melbourne they better fix it smartly!!!:rant:

Ciao,

re the river. It is what it is. It's brown 'cos the silt is brown, c'est la vie. Dirt, not dirty.

nothing (altohugh great pics!) compared to what it's going to be :guns1: :D

Originally posted by ciaobellaxo
Great pics silvermb! Only thing I don't like in each pic is the color of the Yarra :puke:

When are they going to do something about it? For an area that is going to be the show piece for Melbourne they better fix it smartly!!!:rant:


As Big man said it is silt! It is the same reason the Murray is the same colour? It isn't dirty...as in polluted it is just silt that doesn't sink to the bottom!

SMB! Great pics!

And the river is a little browner than normal once again due to reasonable amount of rain in the past few months which stirs up the silt somewhat..

In summer it'll return to a more normal greeny-brown river colour typical of most city rivers..

As has been said the Yarra used to be much more freakin awfully coloured than that! Genuine fecal matter coloured. But its cleaning itself naturally now that the EPA comes down on instutional polluters like a ton of bricks, and I think people do actually litter less! Yarra rocks!!
Oh yeah, so does FWP! :)

2nd Tower a mixed use building now? Response to market forces I suppose, but I would've like to have seen the original scheme stay unchanged; it was very deliberately designed so that office and residential functions did not encroach on each other; or view each other directly; this can be seen in the placement of the first two towers. This could mess that up. Be interesting to see how it is handled.

Blue

Took the ferry trip from Willy up the Yarra to Southbank yesterday and the river was quite clean really.
You get a good perspective on how things are shaping up around the Docklands and just how big the area is as well.
The forecourt/wharf of Mirvacs project looked pretty ordinary from the water nowhere near as grand or as impressive as New Quay.

Level 14 is only one or two days away from appearing on 2SB's core.

and I get my new cam soon too :guns1:

Originally posted by Bluestar


2nd Tower a mixed use building now? Response to market forces I suppose, but I would've like to have seen the original scheme stay unchanged; it was very deliberately designed so that office and residential functions did not encroach on each other; or view each other directly; this can be seen in the placement of the first two towers. This could mess that up. Be interesting to see how it is handled.

Blue

Mixed use for the 2nd Resi tower *could* (fingers and toes) mean it stays close to it's original planned height of ~180m-200m and not shrunk down to 160m as has been rumored here on the forum..

Originally posted by bearbrass
The forecourt/wharf of Mirvacs project looked pretty ordinary from the water nowhere near as grand or as impressive as New Quay.
What you're seeing is only a tiny part of it. That huge bulging section of that part of the river is all going to be a harbour. Once Mirvac gets final approval (which is practically inevitable) that whole area will be full of boats, and once some shops opened and life is brought to the forecourt, the area will have a great atmosphere.

I love Optical Zoom.

I've always thought / said to myself everytime I go down here, that the view down Riverside Quay is one of the most inviting vistas in terms of construction :)

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp1111031.jpg

as I said above, not long til 14 appears:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp1111032.jpg

Tower formation / Whos your daddy / Mess of cranes

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp1111033.jpg

:cool:

New Camera Tays?! I am lovin' it! Keep it up!!! WOW! I want one!

Tays, this one should come with a black plastic cover

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp1111033.jpg

:cool: :cool: :cool: Great stuff!

Article in the paper today that the Ice Skating Rink is finally closing after 18 months to make way for construction of the plaza..

I would say your prediction of 14 very soon is right Tays!

Just looked at the LSS camera North core has risen I assume to 14 exposed!

Great pic Tays.

Good to see some progress to Freshwater Place!

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp1511031.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/eureka1511031.jpg

One more double level core rise on E, and that'd be almost smack bang on the height of which 2SB will be.

:guns1:

Plenty of rises today! Eureka's core, East floor plate

AND more importantly: The south side of 2 Sb has come to meet the north at level 14 exposed.

(lSS cam....(if you took pictures of that today it would look great! 3 rises all up!?)

Dog. Up. Ya.

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp2011031.jpg

^^ Maximum Optical & Digital Zoom from Rialto

:angel:

I think we just had a core rise at FWP1 as you could see an orange '8' on the core...

Also noticed for the first time today on the train you can start to see the curved shape of the East (or left) side of the E&Y Tower... (you can just make it out as well in Lord Melbourne's sunny pic above, but the angle isn't great) ..

This is going to be one kick ass looking office tower and a great support act for the Big E & FWP1 ..

And I tell you.. looking at the whole thing from the train coming around the overpass from Spencer St to Flinders St .. words can't describe how good it looks *already* and with so much yet to go..

We are one lucky mo-fo of a city..

Does anyone think that FP will beat the big E to the finish line?

which tower?

2SB? yes.

1FWP - maybe.

Another core rise at E&Y today.. Level 15 exposed ..

And FWP1 is definately showing Level 8 exposed ..

My answer to the above question:

E&Y: Almost certaintly but not defiantely

FWP1: No way Jose'

Also.. the skirts have come off the podium!! They have just raised all the scaffolding that was covering the front of the podium facing the river so now you can see inside the ground level quite clearly..

A-brain, Ernst & Young is up the other end of the CBD ;)

it's: http://www.pwc.com/images/topnav/logo.gif at Freshwater Place :cool:

thanks for the update anyhow :cool:

PWC core was pumping today. Were they just finishing it off? Or was one side coming up to meet the other!?

I also think 1fwp is ready for a rise (I think!?) the yellow things in the core are sticking up?!

Originally posted by tayser
A-brain, Ernst & Young is up the other end of the CBD ;)

it's: http://www.pwc.com/images/topnav/logo.gif at Freshwater Place :cool:

thanks for the update anyhow :cool:

Ahh nuts.. I always get the two mixed up !! Bloody TLA corporations (Three Letter Acronym) :?

Anyway yeah.. the south core rose to meet the north core at Level 15 exposed - whenever you see a pumping arm at PWC it means core rise same day (geez I wish Eureka would adopt that policy !!)

well then, it's only 4 more rises and it's 1/2 way point for 2SB........... :banana2:

Core rise on 1FWP, 9 is almost exposed.

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp2911031.jpg

The car park's now -too- close for any decent pics

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp2911032.jpg

And podium keeps going up and up

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp2911033.jpg

ALSO: does anyone have a TV tuner card in their PC? The Freshwater Ads are playing again whilst tennis is on, and I'd LOVE to get an .mpg / .avi version :guns1: :banana2: :cool:

Level 16 exposed on the North Core for PWC today..

I tell you what it sure doesn't look close to half height yet with (now) 3 more rises - but I guess they are very large floor plates.

Still hard to imagine it finally ending up roughly where the crane booth above Eureka is now !

took this pic today of back of WT.
In this pic you cant see top 30m of WT, so its approx 200m high at the first setback -level 65, which is height of 1FWP!!
WT is 51m wide from this elevation , 1FWP will be 63m in width!
amazing!

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/233047.jpg

Wow cool comparison in heights.

Anyone been past recently? A week ago the Ice Rink was coming down - still there? or?

Looking at the webcam, the rink seems to be almost all gone!

Notice that they are starting to put the glass onto PWC.

http://hyperhealth.customer.netspace.net.au/IMGP0602.JPG

At last we'll be a little more sure where FWP is UP to as they have started numbering the core. It's at 9 as at today.

http://hyperhealth.customer.netspace.net.au/IMGP0604.JPG

The whole site taken from the other side of the river:

http://hyperhealth.customer.netspace.net.au/IMGP0612.JPG

Wow, I am impressed with the progress! Cool. Have not seen the project for a month. Way to go.

good pics phil (all threads)

the glass on pwc is spot on. some nice silver contrasting patterns along with the vertical strips running the lenght of the eastern facade - contrast is good, gives character to the building along with its shape

god damnit, I had the chance to check this out today - but no.

anyhow, great stuff Phil!

Piling appears to be under way on the site of the resi south tower.

Blue

doubt it - it's a year or more from going to sales...!

:?

Yeh that's what I thought Tays, but I was doing the loop thing yesterday, and sure enough, way up the back there, the mobile cranes with there hole-driving drill things (what are they called?) were sitting there. Unless someone is building some unrelated structure on the site, but i doubt it would need such serious foundations.

Blue

Bates smart told me the south resi tower wont even start til 2005/6.Its actually 50% office %50 resi now btw.
great pix pburt!

that's right [ladies &] gents, we can now see where the lanes / arcades are going to go :D :D :D

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp2612031.jpg

Seen it before, but never in its own context (lol? :D)

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp2612032.jpg

Very high level ceilings for the retail

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp2612033.jpg

2SB's entry taking shape

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp2612034.jpg

creating some curves :D

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp2612035.jpg

watch this space

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp2612036.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/boxingdaypanosmall.jpg (http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/boxingdaypano.jpg)

taken boxing day, click for bigger image (300k)

http://www.australand.com.au/images/Freshwater.gif

They finally got around to updating the FWP official website --> http://www.freshwaterplace.com.au/ ... be sure to check out the links

http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/fwp-new.jpg

and some photos to get you all warm and fuzzy:

http://www.australand.com.au/images/freshwater_aerial2.jpg
(note the reduced height in FWP south and the removal of the word 'residential')

http://www.australand.com.au/images/freshwater_interior2.jpg

would be good to come back to this shot at the end of the year and compare how much has changed:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp0501041.jpg

Tays' pic just highights that although there is a shit load going on at Southbank atm, there's so much more for the future.

Im talking about the other third of the FWP site, the Prima site next door and what Mirvac have in store for the 3 Riverside Quay buildings they now own right in front of Eureka.

i hear they'll probably build a resi tower around 200m on that large site

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

PWC rose another level today to expose 17..

But it still looks so tiny compare to Eureka given how high it is and is supposed to become. Particularly from the LSS camera - I know it's on the wrong side but hard to see it rising to the height that Eureka more or less is at the moment!

Still - 161m is 161m so it's gotta get there somehow.

FWP != EUREKA.

FWP = FWP.

thanks for the info though A-Brain ;)

Lots glass action happening now on PWC! And it looks *very* promising - big ass corporate style with char-grey glass and silver vertical ribs..

Someone here said a while back that horizontal features make a building look squat while vertical lines make it look tall. Well only one level of glass is on PWC and it already makes it look taller!

tays - check it out.. I got through a non E****a post (only my 3rd in the past 6 months) without referencing E****a at all !!

:drunk:

HAH! :)

already a step ahead of you A-Brain ;)

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp1501041.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp1501042.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp1501043.jpg

And they've updated their renderings on Queensbridge Square:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/fwp1501044.jpg

^^ :drool: :drool: :drool:

1 FWP will look a real winner. Love the look of it.

The new square is plain and very open but i guess if u want to have a lot of people there u need lots of open space etc.

Tays is that a series of water fountains in the middle???

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

I'm surprised nobody posted, but the other half of the core rose today so the double core is level again.


James.

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8963/101278963al1068424547.jpg

joed: yeah had a funny feeling it'd go up today, as they're always pouring 2SB's core(s) and raising the corebox(es) at the same time ;)

I can just see a perfect proposal for that BMW showroom site (I refuse to believe BMW will stick to their guns and not sell up that site considering the pressure they're sure to come under and what's happening to that block), a Shell House-like curved floor-plate - 1/4 circle, ~130 - 140m tall, 8 level podium to match up with 2SB, and the cruve to run from 2SB sweeping right around to 2FWP. Drenched in glass.

mmm.

pic thanks to Hacksaw ;)

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/hackseureka.jpg

Eureka's corebox = pretty much the height of 2SB, and halfway up the corebox crane (or top of it?) is where, roughly, 1FWP will be :guns1:

That picture is awesome. Another one that we can check back on at the end of the year. Fantastic pic. Will be a great site in a few months.

can someone (lozza) go down and check out the glass on the resi podium

may be wrong but could have sworn that its blue-green, more aqua than anything else - really interesting colour. if the renderings are any guide the tower will be the same colour as the podium which would look spectacular

btw lozz did you enjoy your stroll around docklands this afternoon?

I would swear as of Sunday there was no glass yet on the Resi podium, but I'll shoot by tomorrow for sure and have a gab..

Core rise to half of core earlier today :D

Gee it's going much faster than Eureka!



James.

Yeah PWC is really going at it also like Hammer and Tong (again have no idea who they are) ..

Hate to state the bleeding obvious but 'It's Really Starting to look *BIG* now!!' (c) Some Forumer 2002

It's progressed from a Campus-look-a-like, to a mid-rise-look-a-like now:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/lssenight.jpg

who knows the exact RL proposed for the tallest tower?

is it still 225.45m

205m + 2 or 3m RL?

its now 62 levels, it's been chopped back from 220m, likewise the 2nd residential is now around 160m

cheers & welcome to the board

OK, the main core box is level again :D

The other half rose today. Woohoo!


James.

things are coming along well if only i had a digital camera and a helicopter...

Puntzmeisters galore

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp3001041.jpg

Plotstyle check your private messages: http://skyscrapercity.com/private.php?s=

Originally posted by tayser
205m + 2 or 3m RL?

its now 62 levels, it's been chopped back from 220m, likewise the 2nd residential is now around 160m

cheers & welcome to the board
the very topof plant room is RL207m. The average height at street level is 2m, thus 205m above ground. The actual roof is RL199m or 197m above ground. Theres a total of 63 storeys incl the 3storeys in the plantroom on top.

just looking at me plan of FWP. so the floor plate is at leve15 with 3 more fl in core thus lev18? or 75m above grd! one more rise and its exactly half way up!

when it gets to lev20 the core reduces in size for the highrise levels.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126scraperstatusfeb1-med.jpg

its all good!:D

by the time its complete i think pwc will be the best looking tower on southbank - oozing Bates Smart quality. blue glass for the tower, black glass around the podium with silver/grey features

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483fwp_20040204_2.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483fwp_20040204_1.jpg

and a core pour for good measure

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/fwp_20040204.JPG

nice shots i went for a walk around there today it would be good if we just orgainse to go on site one day...

silvermb did u get those drawings?

Originally posted by plotstyle
nice shots i went for a walk around there today it would be good if we just orgainse to go on site one day...

Hey I'm in :D

Gotta love the sight of all those cement trucks lined up :laugh: :laugh:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/fwp_20040204.JPG
If I was to hand an award for the construction shot of the year, it would be this one of silvermb's, the core pore at FWP.
The cement trucks all lined up in front, the Big E on the left and those CRANES!!! Ooooohhhh Yeah!!!
Definitely Construction heaven!!!

Good one Silvermb!!!

___________________________________________________
'It is not the bulk of a fabric, the richness and quantity of the materials, the multiplicity of lines, nor the gaudiness of the finishing that gives grace or beauty or grandeur to a building, but the proportion of the parts to one another and to the whole, whether entirely plain or enriched with a few ornaments properly disposed'
James Gibbs 1728

Originally posted by silvermb
by the time its complete i think pwc will be the best looking tower on southbank - oozing Bates Smart quality. blue glass for the tower, black glass around the podium with silver/grey features


:nocrook:

I'm just waiting to see more 1FWP :guns1:

:bow: silvermb :bow:

Core rise again this morning. Half the core that is.

I thought someone else would have got in before me. Is nobody interested in FWP? Or all too busy watching Eureka maybe ;)

I am sick of hearing about Eureka. I am more interested in all the other projects like SX Office, Fresh Water, H&WT, UW etc.

Originally posted by joed
Core rise again this morning. Half the core that is.

I thought someone else would have got in before me. Is nobody interested in FWP? Or all too busy watching Eureka maybe ;)
if you do what im doing, its fun watching not only Eureka but FWP towers rise on lss.com webcam.
All you do is save an image once a week (or every core rise) and save to a folder. Then after you have alot of images just put it on slideshow mode and wam! the cores grow before you its excellent.
Ive noticed FWP office has split cores and rise at dif rates.
checkout latest pic>

http://www.lss.com.au/lss/webcam.htm

Noticed the North Tower of FWP has now risen to level ten.

Originally posted by Aussie Steve
I am sick of hearing about Eureka. I am more interested in all the other projects like SX Office, Fresh Water, H&WT, UW etc.

join the club ;)

Awesome shots there SilverMelb!

Its construction Nirvana down there at Southbank and I agree with The Collector about the last shot, its particularly spunk-tastic for all the reasons he mentioned. You should post it in the SSC urban photo compeition an call it.....construction nirvana.:)

Great shots !!!
They say it all - thanks.

Looking at the plans Cul's sourced for me from Bates Smart - is 1FWP going to the country's skinniest tower?

by my calcs:

The tower's maximum width on the North Elevation will be 24 metres (give or take a few centremetres), and the tower being 205m tall:

205 / 24 = 8.54

.: height to width ratio:

8.54:1

is that right?

not the best way to display it

http://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2003/07/201415.jpg

however, joed's pic of the model displays it better:

http://homepage.mac.com/jbadcock/Melbourne/Southbank-Images/6.jpg

yeah, FWP1 was going to be the skinniest in oz but the new contender will be Adelaides 74m high/21st PINNACLE office tower at only 6m wide, thus ratio of 12.3.
its a "sandwiche" bldg so you cant comprehend its slimness.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/pc3ab1c7612b8f66218c7ae6498b70280/fae5ff7a.jpg

as for stand alone towers,FW1 might be the best example of slimness. BUT having said that its mighty wide (63m) so this distracts from its size. As for floor plate size you would have to find the thinnest and also length wise.
Sydney's Rialto is only 23m wide x 30m. so its floor plates are fairly small making the tower seem extremely tall.

Six metres wide :? Damn!! Hate to be clostraphobic in that tower!

Hey Cul, I've been looking for that render showing FWP, PWC and the big E when completed (has a bit of the rest of south bank in it as well). I've looked throughout both the FWP and big E threads but can't find it. Any ideas? Cheers! :cool:

Originally posted by ciaobellaxo
Six metres wide :? Damn!! Hate to be clostraphobic in that tower!

Hey Cul, I've been looking for that render showing FWP, PWC and the big E when completed (has a bit of the rest of south bank in it as well). I've looked throughout both the FWP and big E threads but can't find it. Any ideas? Cheers! :cool:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85013

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/126southbank2006redun-med.jpg

i noticed the 2SB towers floor plate has risen over past days, i noticed on lss cam.

FWP 1967!!
view from newly completed L&G bldg.

http://www.statelibrary.vic.gov.au/pictoria/a/4/7/im/a47206.jpg

the first skyscraper in the St Kilda rd precinct you can see in background just completed also (Domain Apts)

http://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/5/2000/09/121904.jpg

Hi Cul,

Great pic, but the view is looking south towards where the blue glass, low-rise office towers (in front of Eureka) on the edge of the Yarra owned by Mirvac. Freshwater is just out of the picture on the right.

Core pour and rise today of PWC I believe(?).....just the North section so the south will join it soon!

That is great pic cul! I love looking at the historic pics!

Originally posted by kasperluke
Core pour and rise today of PWC I believe(?).....just the North section so the south will join it soon!

That is great pic cul! I love looking at the history pics!


Heres a whole sight with thousands of pix. Be warned though its addictive and I waste heaps of time on it when I should be more productive.

www.pictureaustralia.org.au

Thanks for that Jaq!!! That is where you get them from! hehe it is actually www.photoaustralia.org not .au! Just in case other people are wondering!!

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/ShowImage.jpeg

Don't know about everyone else but neither of those url's are working for me

Originally posted by CULWULLA
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85013

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/126southbank2006redun-med.jpg

Thanks for the pic Cul but I was actually referring to a render of Southbank that looks similar to tays' post above (a color pic) that included the big E, FWP and PWC.

great site to see after two weeks of not seeing it :D

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/40degrees24.jpg

I concur wholeheartedly with silvermb

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp1402041.jpg

Originally posted by ciaobellaxo
Don't know about everyone else but neither of those url's are working for me

Try this http://www.pictureaustralia.org/index.html

the other half of the core rose today.

So the whole core is now level again.

Go FWP :D

Pee-Dubya-Cee is In Tha House !!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Cons/DSC00686.jpg

Welcome to Melbourne's soon-to-be tallest Office Tower outside the Grid..

Multiplex are clearly doin a Grocon@QV and working fast on getting the office tower done at the expense of the taller resi building which is going at a snails pace in comparison..

:banana:

the texture of the facade's looking schmick as.

:banana:

thats all good and well A-brain but Baulderstone Hornibrook are building PwC

Office tower may appear to be going quicker than the resi section due to the resi section having shorter floors. The office tower has taller floors so for the same amount of effort in setting up for each floor pour, the building gains more height than the resi section. Maybe..............and as silvermb noted, different builders, two separate jobs so different outcomes and priorities.

Yep.. just like I said - PWC is going up quicker because Boulderstone Hornybrook are quicker builders than Multiperplexed ..

:tongue4:

More good news. The southern half of the main core has risen - looks like about half a floor.

Yay :D


James.

Make that a full floor core rise for the southern half.

Bring it.

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp2402041.jpg

A-Brain: I think it's safe to assume it's 1FWP's podium that is holding everything up.

*shrug*

Great pic tays! It is making a great presence now, and they are also powering ahead another core rise! go BH....they should build more buildings...they finished the western half of citylink on time too didn't they??

! When was the last time we had a rise of 1FWP?? SMB's pics last week show the pour!

I think it has risen, silvermb's pics have it at 9, today (from train) it had half of a fluoro '10' exposed... 10's the top of the podium isn't it? it's either 10 or 13.

cheers

I think it rose last week, they've only recently sprayed the fluro ten.

Originally posted by tayser
I think it has risen, silvermb's pics have it at 9, today (from train) it had half of a fluoro '10' exposed... 10's the top of the podium isn't it? it's either 10 or 13.

cheers

Actually I think the Level 10 is the first resi level. If you look at the exposed core the Level 10 extends longer and is a totally different shape to the levels below it..

Originally posted by A-brain
Actually I think the Level 10 is the first resi level. If you look at the exposed core the Level 10 extends longer and is a totally different shape to the levels below it..
The first resi level is actually level 1. The 10 level podium consists of Queensbridge square units. The first low rise unit is level and there will be 29 levels (level11-40) inthe "low rise" section.
# if the core in the office tower is at lev20, this means its 85m above ground! looking good.

Pretty cool! The project may be overshadowed by Eureka, but it is really coming along nicely!

The south core box of PWC has just been narrowed over the past coupla days.. the southern most 1/3 of the core box was removed competely..

Looking more awesome by the day PWC - now if only FWP1 would get a move along..

just checked lss webcam. the PWC core is rising as we speak!:guns1:

views from Eureka website>

http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/mar04/12.jpg

http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/mar04/13.jpg

http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/mar04/6.jpg

Fast becoming one of the classiest office towers in Melbourne..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/DSC00699.jpg

It appears FWP1 has had a core rise.
Now at Level 11.

How long has it been since any of us went up to this particular spot!? :D

Well. I can tell you..

May 17th 2003
http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/DSC00501a.jpg

And now..

March 20th 2004
http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/DSC00724a.jpg

Ditto over at the Eureka thread..

Yar, go 2SB

http://metropolis.tayser.net/tours/190304/greyscale6.jpg

:banana2:

just looking at my elavation of 2sb. the floors are now at level21 which is approx 90m/300ft high and core at lev23 which is 97m above ground.another 15 floors for core or 4 months, so maybe July top out?
great pix guys

Its a good looker, dark is nice! Will complement Eureka very nicely (Much in the same way that Latitude complements World Tower nicely):

http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v127/andadoo/Southbank1.jpg

Latitude & World Tower are too close and they don't compliment IMO, building Latitude so close does nothing more than boxing WT in - they're both still good towers, just far too close to each other, and don't seem to do much other than the fact they're so damn close, like many buildings up there, whereas Freshwater's a whole development conceived from scratch encompassing three towers (just being built at different times) which interact with the central Piazza & Queensbridge Square, not a bit of this and bit of that from different architects. It's sad World Square wasn't built in its original form (well maybe not, but in this cycle it would have been cool if it were a master development like FWP)

anyhow back to Freshwater:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp1903041.jpg

Finally looking like a podium now

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp1903042.jpg

Obviously still a lot of work to do inside of course

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp1903043.jpg

Getting harder to get the whole thing in now from here

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp1903044.jpg

GREAT SHOTS:colgate:

Originally posted by tayser
Latitude & World Tower are too close and they don't compliment IMO, building Latitude so close does nothing more than boxing WT in - they're both still good towers, just far too close to each other, and don't seem to do much other than the fact they're so damn close, like many buildings up there, whereas Freshwater's a whole development conceived from scratch encompassing three towers (just being built at different times) which interact with the central Piazza & Queensbridge Square, not a bit of this and bit of that from different architects. It's sad World Square wasn't built in its original form (well maybe not, but in this cycle it would have been cool if it were a master development like FWP)

anyhow back to Freshwater:



Nah density is awesome! Anyway here is another pic I took from Rialto Observation deck that might be of interest:

http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v127/andadoo/FWP2.jpg

Is the long thin core for the 205m FWP resi tower?

tays i understand what you mean about the closeness of World Tower and Latitude tower but this was always the design way back from original World SQuare 1986 project. The reason why the Latitude tower is so close to Wt is that the whole mass of the tower had to be pushed away from the southern face (or Goulburn street) so the roof wouldnt shadow impact on Belmore Park.Theres always sems to be a reason for most tower designs in Sydney. I reckon its too strict! The masterplan of the 4 tower envelopes were planned way back in 1986.
It is same except the Pitt st tower rose from 120m to 150m and the last tower (east) will be 100m instead of 160m). the whole site has a limited floor space ratio as does all development sites in Australia!Im glad the original design never went ahead. it would look so dated now.
the currnt 4 towers are perfect! all different yet they interact nicely at podium level.
FWP is lucky that the is built in a new precinct with no heritage items of public parks to restrict its height or shape.its only limitation seems to be floor space ratio.
Anyway it will be cool when FWP is finally complete. Hopefully you wont be waiting as long as we did with World Square. The 3rd and final tower of FWP wont commence til 2006 and completion set for 2008.So thats pretty good with a total of 6 or so years of construction.
World Square has had a total of 7years.
First they had to demolish the monumental Anthony hordern bdlg which took 6 months then excavations-6 months (1986/7). The site recommenced for 6months in 1991, then stopped until 1997 when Hordern Towers took 2 years. Then world tower from 2001-2004, latitude from 2003-2004. and finally east from 2004-2005.]
So a total of 7and 1/2 years out of 20 years were demolishing and actual construction.

excellent pic sydney dude, thats the core...

can anyone tell me if they remove the tower sections from the crane in the middle of freshwater's podium?

maybe the just stick up some precast panels around the tower section on each level and leave it in?

One more month and the 1FWP podium will be complete?

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp0204041.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp0204042.jpg

not happy regarding the blankness.

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp0204043.jpg

Its blank because it the boundary of the site. You can't put windows on a property boundary! Don't you want another tall tower right next door with a podum of the same size & scale as FWP?

Yeah but the silly thing is it butts up against QBH nightclub - which has the beautiful old pub facade which I'm fairly sure would be heritage listed or protected in some way? So doubtful to see something that high built directly against..

^^ exactly - is QBH heritage listed? Could be. Is it on its last legs? doubt it. Is it likely to be another Shitbox house where we've been waiting for 20 years for TWO blank walls to be covered up? Bet your bottom dollar.

I HATE BLANK WALLS. that is all, carry on. lol!

QBH is not heritage listed and does not deserve to be heritage listed. And as such, can be demolished any time.

2sbb core is currently rising! just checked lss webcam.

If you look closely at Taysers 2nd pic, there's a slight stuff up...

They've put the wrong colour glass - darker glass instead of lighter glass in the RHS edge of the photo

^^ they've since fixed it up ;)

Near or far, I'm yet to see anyone capture the texture of this facade in a way that does it justice... just fantastic [in person]

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp1404041.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp1404042.jpg

Finishing touches on podium upper levels, before the reo starts to disappear I'd say

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp1404043.jpg

:angel:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp1404044.jpg

Southbank Office Daddy ..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/DSC00748.jpg

Looks *even better* on the reverse side from Power St in the afternoon sun. Those grey glass inserts come up a beautiful platinum silver..

Cool guys!
very good pics

I'll hurl many a technicolour yawn if they don't do much else with the podium - god DAMN I hope they do something just a little more than what's there atm - it's far too multi-level car park for my liking, when you look at 1FWP, which is the same, but they've hidden the fact that that's what the podium is by spamming apartments around it, nevertheless, the rest of the tower is 110% sensational.

a brain what lenses is that?

It's called 2 x Crappy Sony 2.0 Megapixel non-zoom Cybershot lens photos with marvellous Canon PhotoStitch software to merge them together.

i just hope that the queensbridge plaza really goes off well - i.e. not a dead zone, which it shouldn't given the huge foot traffic already there. there's a danger with building so much from scratch - look at places like Shanghai, Kuala Lumpur and (gulp) Docklands.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/directions/2sbrender1.png

Other stats from Baulderstone Hornibrook's site:

Site area: 6,000m squared
GFA: 100,000m squared
Lifts: (passenger) 18
Lifts: (car park shuttle): 3
Lifts: (podium office shuttle): 2

:wave:

my only gripe is the "Front door" to the tower (podium along Southbank Boulevard) still looks pretty crap-tacular. (see my comments about "hoping" for something else to happen to the podium... blarg)

The resi tower has really taken off now.

Getting a core rise once a week at the moment.

Tayser I reckon the podium impression will improve; there is an overhanging guillotine-like roof yet to be built on top of that thing...patience.

Blue

Fantastic work there tayser. Such detailed diagrams :okay: I'm guessing that they may be from Baulderstone Hornibrook's site.

Hi silvermb, No they certainly will not leave the tower sections inside the building. They will be coming out once the crane is pulled off the top of them.


excellent pic sydney dude, thats the core...

can anyone tell me if they remove the tower sections from the crane in the middle of freshwater's podium?

maybe the just stick up some precast panels around the tower section on each level and leave it in?

http://www.users.bigpond.com/Dwight.Veenman/MyPics/20040226FWPsmall.jpg

Close up of base of resi tower today. You can see the form taking place now

:banana2: finally :)

http://www.users.bigpond.com/Dwight.Veenman/MyPics/20040226FWPsmall.jpg

Close up of base of resi tower today. You can see the form taking place now

Ummm... I gather the very narrow section with the Multiplex sign is the lift core. That is incredible how narrow it is :uh: It isn't the first time I've seen the core but seeing it from this perspective really brings it home!

so would core box have level 16 inside? (being podium is 10 levels and core is 5 with box?
just geting ready to draw diagram update.
;-)

checkout FWP1 core has popped up at far right (above beige bldg). this will be a great cam also to watch FWP1 rise up.
Since Eureka is currently at 191m., we should be able to watch FWP1 rise to its maximum height!
http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/36eurekaapril27.jpg

Dare I say that it looks like FWP may catch up to the Big E!

^^ errrrr?

Dare I say that it looks like FWP may catch up to the Big E!

^^ errrrr?

Yeah...um...isn't that kinda...impossible :runaway:

its not easy to get shots of this from a moving train

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic35.jpg

^^ nup - a Hitachi on a Williamstown service is the train you want to use for photos ;)

(uses track closest the river and you can hang the camera out of the window) :cool:

^^ nup - a Hitachi on a Williamstown service is the train you want to use for photos ;)

(uses track closest the river and you can hang the camera out of the window) :cool:

i normally stick my head out when they go through the loop : P
:banana2:

Sounds like you've done that before Tays ;) The things we do for a good shot!

What I mean is that FWP is moving a hell of a lot faster then E is at the moment.

Maybe that's due to the size of the core and floorplates?

Might also be that The Big E has a leaning tower of pisa problem. How long since the liftshaft moved??????

Last week

Gday

The first bit of blue scaffolding for the footprint of the residential tower has now been put into place and is now clearly visible ! Its for the curvy bit of the tower that faces the river !

Looks Great !

CHEERS

LOZZA :drunk:

images from last week, getting harder to snare sunny days when im free from uni/work but these turned out well

spot the facade error
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/fwp.JPG

excellent podium features, only dissapointment is that it may have been a less boxy shape; something more like Yve for the podium. Regardless compare the last pic to the diagram and thats what the eastern side of the tower will look like - impressive!
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/fwp1.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/freshwater_place6.JPG

Whats with Melbourne builders? Don't they know how to build to plans drawn by architects?

[blatant generalisation mode] No, they're just paid too much for doing too little, and consequently don't bother doing it right. [/blatant generalisation mode]

Guys , what exactly is wrong with it , compared to the renders ?

Its not finished yet ???

cheers

lozza :dooby:

In that second pic there's 2 columns of that blue glass without a break in the top row of glass.

great close shots!!!

thinks its the glass again i would lov to have rto's : (

naw the box podium rules, it's a multi-storey carpark, just hidden behind lofts (1FWP) - however 2SB's podium is just a multi-storey carpark full stop.

Plus, if you want to really get a good grasp of the 1FWP podium, Pacific Internet HQ & Queensbridge Square context, stop and stare at the rendering just outside the display suite (it'll become obvious why the 1FWP is like it is then ;))

thanks fer the update silvermb,

not long til it lights southbank up like no tomorrow

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp0405041.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp0405042.jpg

[whinge & bitch]blank walls blow[/whinge & bitch]
the context rendering I was talking about is like an oblique view from here

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp0405043.jpg

stalinist Russia indeed Muse.

there's two facade stuff-ups

two light blue strips next to one another and on the far right, the corner panel is one light blue square short of th others

hahhaha - i thought you were talking about more facade stuff-ups on eureka, silvermb!!! i was screwing up my eyes trying to work out where it was - but since you're talking about fwp, i couldn't care less! hahahahah! :D

went past on the train today and things are looking good!

2sbb core just rose up! :cucumber: now lev28

Gday

Notice on 2ssb how level 20 has a larger floorsize in height from the other levels ! Must be something special planned for that level me thinks ! :cucumber:

This site is really kicking arse ! Love the Glass and i love how residential one is coming along ! :banana:

cheers

Lozza :drunk:

Gday

Notice on 2ssb how level 20 has a larger floorsize in height from the other levels ! Must be something special planned for that level me thinks ! :cucumber:

This site is really kicking arse ! Love the Glass and i love how residential one is coming along ! :banana:

cheers

Lozza :drunk:

PS~ CULWULLA, What has happened to my Dooby :dooby: smiley ?

I love using that one and it doesn't work any more ?? Sob Sob ! hehe !

the larger levl 20 is just a mid level plant level. most office towers (especially large ones) have these.

Yeah , i thought it migh be a plant level or something to that nature !

Level 25 is now exposed in the core on the Office Tower

Cheers

Lozza

PS ~ Tayser Or Culwulla - Why has the "Dooby Smiley" been deleted ?

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp0405043.jpg

I remember seeing a great description for this pic in another thread somewhere. I believe it was 'Crane porn' ;)

As per usual tays - awesome pics!

thats one thing about cranes, there are bloody fantastic site to behold (this normally indicates skyscraper construction, which is a good thing) but on other hand its a real blight on a skyline! it ruins good photos if your trying to take photos of nearby buildings or a pano.not sure which i want?

Not sure which one you want?????

It's a bit hard to have your buildings without our cranes!!!!! At the end of the day, we make everyone's dreams and aspirations happen.

The combination of someones idea, someone elses money, someones planning and then our diesel induced black smoke and sweat make them buildings get closer to the sky. It's a happy happy joy joy circle of love. (not)

All you need is patience to get your photo you want, sooner or later we will be looking into someone elses apartment windows seeing what some of you freaky people out there get up to!! The sights we see everyday would curl your toes.

Hey favco, just a very quick question about the cranes. How do you know which way to steer the crane to get the hook in the right place down below? I gather you'd use radios to communicate with the guys down below but how do they direct you? Always wanted to know this :)

Hey favco, just a very quick question about the cranes. How do you know which way to steer the crane to get the hook in the right place down below? I gather you'd use radios to communicate with the guys down below but how do they direct you? Always wanted to know this :)

I think they still use whistles, so whistle signals, small blows, to blows one loud one to stop i imagine!

Anyway, I am not a crane driver.

Southern Core rose today on 2SB. The southern one is the smaller in size. So that made it 38 exposed...ahh I have forgotton!

most sites these day have the portable speaker on the crane handler, similar to those bouncers pin on their shoulders. mobile cranes still use the whistle as it's close-in work. what i'd like to know is what do different coloured helmets represent on construction sites? i think red represents a crane handler, white is a standard worker, black a union rep but the others like yellow/green?

core rise today on both towers! checkout lss webcam.

most sites these day have the portable speaker on the crane handler, similar to those bouncers pin on their shoulders. mobile cranes still use the whistle as it's close-in work. what i'd like to know is what do different coloured helmets represent on construction sites? i think red represents a crane handler, white is a standard worker, black a union rep but the others like yellow/green?


And green is for safety and first aid reps and yellow is also std worker hat, white is also for the suits on the jobs. And your right those evil rambunctious halfwits wear the black hats.

Hey favco, just a very quick question about the cranes. How do you know which way to steer the crane to get the hook in the right place down below? I gather you'd use radios to communicate with the guys down below but how do they direct you? Always wanted to know this :)


The dogman and driver talk on 2 ways

core rise today on both towers! checkout lss webcam.
One happened yesterday! As I noted on the last page!

I love LSS cam!

Freshwater place is looking great at the moment! I nearly missed my train because I stood their just watching it! Looks great!

The dogman and driver talk on 2 ways

Thanks jag and everyone else! But I still don't know how they direct the crane driver! Do they still use the whistle or have they got a more sophisticated method now ;)

Today from City Rd..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/FWP/DSC00761.jpg

A new crane for the upper section of the tower???

"Noice.. Different.. Un-ewe-sual"

is that new crane is the spot where the core's narrowed? or has it been too long since I've been to the site and subsequently getting my bearings wrong? lol ;)

Yes No No Yes your right !! That is the right side..

And to answer your question from the E-thread .. it's my same old Cybershot digicam - but happens to be the perfect distance for nice sharp 50% of full res pics !! My normal fuzzier shots are the cam at 100% res

Thanks jag and everyone else! But I still don't know how they direct the crane driver! Do they still use the whistle or have they got a more sophisticated method now ;)
I still carry my whistle the signals are as follows 1 short-stop,1 long-hoist down,2 short-hoist up,3 short-jib up,4 short-jib down,1 long & 1 short-slew left,1 long & 2 short-slew right these are all in blows of the whistle, all these apply for luffing and hammerhead cranes.hope this helps :)

that was going to be my next question: what settings have you changed lol.

it's all good, thanks for the updates. Hoping friday's going to be the day I get my weekly fix. :)

hehe I was just looking at this pic and thinking exactly the same thing, I thought it must have been some kind of optical illusion that cut the top of the seond tower crane off!

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/freshwater.jpg

sen-freaking-sational.

Look out Melbourne, here comes 1 Freshwater Place!

:banana:

yar, here we go:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/fwp/fwp1405041.jpg

(go the wires at Fed. Square!)

No. 1 pin-up for taking shots of FWP North's progression will be tays.

go the MBs of tays ;)

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic61.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic62.jpg

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic67.jpg

I still carry my whistle the signals are as follows 1 short-stop,1 long-hoist down,2 short-hoist up,3 short-jib up,4 short-jib down,1 long & 1 short-slew left,1 long & 2 short-slew right these are all in blows of the whistle, all these apply for luffing and hammerhead cranes.hope this helps :)

Kewl! Thanks for that Fav!

A-brain - sensational shot from City Rd. This tower is looking good! :banana:

The third crane is actually the same crane that was down on the ground level grillage that was being used to load up the yellow loading bays. It is now sitting up on top as it went up today.

As Favelle mentions, communication between the crane driver and the dogmen can be a combination of whistle signals that all mean separate directions. However most tower cranes are directed by a two way radio like the coppers have, with a microphone attached via a springy cord to the radio which is worn on the belt. Having the microphone on the springy bit allows the dogman to use both hands whilst still being able to talk to the driver. Every dogman carries a whistle, in case the radio buggers up and it is handy to clip the mic onto the string around your neck.

Mobile cranes use radios as well, especially when the work is "in the blind" - where the hook is behind a wall or something like that. The vision from the tower cranes is limited, you can see less than you would think. The core sticks up so you can't see behind it, you can only see down the side of the building where the crane is, and in the case of the crane in the core at Eureka, FWP, etc, you cant see any of the ground where the crane picks up it's loads so good communication is a must.

most sites these day have the portable speaker on the crane handler, similar to those bouncers pin on their shoulders. mobile cranes still use the whistle as it's close-in work. what i'd like to know is what do different coloured helmets represent on construction sites? i think red represents a crane handler, white is a standard worker, black a union rep but the others like yellow/green?
You are right in observation on the sometimes black hats for shop stewards, sometimes red for crane crew, sometimes white for shiny bums etc etc etc; but none of this is ever adhered to in any way. The reason for the crane crew having a different colour is basic, it's easier to spot a red/pink/flouro purple hat amongst the more standard white and yellow ones. So if it is easier to spot, it makes it easier on the crane operator.

The main reason why each person wears a certain colour hat is that is the colour they were given. They are supplied by the employer so you wear what 'chu get. Multiplex are issuing their current crane crews with red hats so Vic Point, Southern Cross, Freshwater Res etc red hats are probably dogmen. Also depends on who owns the crane or who is supplying the labour for it!

I havent noticed how fwp was progressing because of eureka. can you see it on the lss webcam?

The curve bits on FWP1 have moved along to 3 levels now i think! And they are going to look great! If you have a camera and zoom up on the core you'll get a great photo!

I havent noticed how fwp was progressing because of eureka. can you see it on the lss webcam?
yes, this will be great to watch grow to full height.
also the core rose over weekend to lev17.

Cul, the core rose this morning.

oh ok, i knew it was over last few days.
also noticed 2SBB core rose today.

argh it shits me how the big consultancy firms aren't doing their own updates on new offices et al.

PWC in Melbourne has the most locations of any CBD in Aus, and they're all about to be united in holy matromony on Southbank, and they don't seem to really want to get involved [by the lack of info on their site].... hope they won't a divorce not far down the track.

bwahah....hahahah.....hah.......ha......h ;)

EY's the same (plant a seed finn! :D) - it's only the developers who want to scream "look the frig at me" [wonder why? ;)].

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When Eureka adds another 4 floors to its floor plates to lev50 it will be approx 160m which is height of what 2SBB will be! Thats fairly tall!
checkout comparison on todays lss webcam>

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/61eurekamay25.jpg

Gday

FWP Residential 1 is going to fark'n fly up real quick !!!!! :kiss: :grouphug: :)

The floorplates are sooooo small , so it will be at level 60 before long !

Its already up to the 4th level of the actual floorplates of the tower itself !

After Eureka's next core rise , it will be at the height of FWP residential
( about 205 metres ) so its going to be MASSIVE !

I wonder how quickly it will top out ?

What do u think guys ?

Cheers

Lozza :drunk:

Gday

FWP Residential 1 is going to fark'n fly up real quick !!!!! :kiss: :grouphug: :)

The floorplates are sooooo small , so it will be at level 60 before long !

Its already up to the 4th level of the actual floorplates of the tower itself !

After Eureka's next core rise , it will be at the height of FWP residential
( about 205 metres ) so its going to be MASSIVE !

I wonder how quickly it will top out ?

What do u think guys ?

Cheers

Lozza :drunk:
its up to lev17 in core, so 45 lev (62 in total) to go or 45 weeks, maybe 11 months or this time next year?

Sounds good CUL !

I think it will really fly this one as it is such a small floor footprint ! It seems last week that they were just finishing the podium , and now they are already flying into the tower itself ! :runaway: :runaway:

cheers

lozza :drunk:

its actually quite a large footprint! its only 25m across BUT its a massive 65m wide (north/south), so it will still be a large floor plate. (wider than Eureka by 10m)!

um why are the concrete arms different only a few days apart?????

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SX photo moved to its thread ;-)

Gday Cul

Interesting that FWP Res 1 has a larger floorplate , as it appears to be very small. Anyhow , it is certainly flying up anyway none the less ! ( Much quicker than Eureka ! )

Hey Cul , with PWH Coopers at Freshwater Place , Would i be correct in saying that one of the 2 cores will terminate pretty soon as its up to about level 28 now?

Cheers

Lozza :drunk:

plotstyle, that's the 101 Exhibition Street (SX office) development Multiplex core. Thread is in this forum section.

BTW Great to see FWP's PWC still has a couple of floorplates to go!! ...and quite a few to be clad as yet.

Gday Cul

Interesting that FWP Res 1 has a larger floorplate , as it appears to be very small. Anyhow , it is certainly flying up anyway none the less ! ( Much quicker than Eureka ! )

Hey Cul , with PWH Coopers at Freshwater Place , Would i be correct in saying that one of the 2 cores will terminate pretty soon as its up to about level 28 now?

Cheers

Lozza :drunk:
yeah i think it will, havent got plans in front of me. ill look tonight.
cheers

[QUOTE=plotstyle]um why are the concrete arms different only a few days apart?????
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anyone????

What do you mean by "concrete arms"? - Oh you mean the "pumper arms" - the preying mantis-like creatures atop.

What do you mean by "concrete arms"? - Oh you mean the "pumper arms" - the preying mantis-like creatures atop.

ones red then it turns white??? mabye they have to clean them?

Guess what's up for sale?

http://www.grosswaddell.com.au/media/sales/180_CityRd/Page_2_01.jpghttp://www.grosswaddell.com.au/media/sales/180_CityRd/Page_2_02.jpg
http://www.grosswaddell.com.au/media/sales/180_CityRd/Page_2_03.jpghttp://www.grosswaddell.com.au/media/sales/180_CityRd/Page_2_04.jpg

Yeah poor old Imperium.. finally biting the dust once and for all.

Wonder if the permit is still valid?

there are at least five facade stuff-ups on PwC now, the latest on the south-side, what is going on?

Plotstyle, Caelli are using placement booms at PwC. they have about 3-4 placements that 1-2 pumping arms are interchanged with depending upon which area is ready to pour. the pumping arms are also interchangeable with the truck-mounted pedderstal

stick a few pics together
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/fwp1.JPG

Plotstyle, Caelli are using placement booms at PwC. they have about 3-4 placements that 1-2 pumping arms are interchanged with depending upon which area is ready to pour. the pumping arms are also interchangeable with the truck-mounted pedderstal


cheers!!! someone knows what there talking about! do they have a 30m span???

they range between 16-50m, but the 28m booms are commonly used

are the 1FWP tower levels up to 4 above the podium yet?

RE: are the 1FWP tower levels up to 4 above the podium yet?

Yup ! Certainly are Olly !

The core is up to level 19 in the box and the floorplates are up to about level 14 ( 4 above the podium level ) :rock: :rock:

cheers

Lozza :drunk:

Yer went for a power walk to all the "big bastard" sites today actually.

They've started putting up all the awnings over Southbank Blvd and Queensbridge Square. And I counted that the top floor of the floorplates at current was 5 above the podium.

It's been a long time, but the podium's almost complete :guns1:

Over at 2SB: I sat for about 10 minutes just gazing at the facade. The tower's also looking nice and imposing now from that little pissy native tree courtyard infront of Eureka, unfortunately my cam is on loan to a friend, so no pics (was perfect weather for them too :( )

my fkn camera is stuffed at the moment i think it corrupted the memory card while doin a movie :(
not happy...

FWP1 is hammering now that construction has cleared the podium area and we're into the main skinny tower..

Heaps happened here over the weekend. The crane through the resi (MPX) carpark slab came down, one of the resi cranes climbed 5 towers, and the crane on the Eureka side of comm climbed 5 towers as well.