Project | Suburban Development | WESTSIDE

[docker]

there were calls for this thread since the seperation of the inner city thread and to start it off.

Railway 18
18 Railway Road, SUBIACO
http://www.ph3.com.au/Property_pages/Subiaco_page.htm
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Railway 18 makes a lifestyle statement in the corporate arena. It's your opportunity to mix business with pleasure. Comprising of 28 executive stata suites, an on-site cafe, an art gallery and plenty of parking, Railway 18 is not like your usual work environment. Imagine saying "thank God it's Monday"



418 Hay Street, SUBIACO
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Situated in the new Subi Centro Precinct on the corner of Hay Street and Railway Road and close to Rokeby Road retail and cafe strip and the Subiaco Train Station. Brand new office development with state of the art building services and finishes associated with an 'A' grade office building. Under cover, secure car parking, easy lift access and excellent natural light.

Claremont Quarter

Claremont Quarter is the retail component of the refurnishing and expansion redevelopment of the existing Claremont Arcade site, a joint project by Hawaiian and Mutiplex.

Claremont Quarter will provide 30,000m² of retail shops over 2 levels; in addition to 79 residential apartments, 600 squares of commercial offices and 1500 car spaces.

The proposed overall development has been designed as an integrated commercial development which will create an active urban village where people work, shop, live and are entertained within the locality of the Town Centre.

Stage 1 will be built between 2007 and 2009 and encompasses is the western half of the site which will house Coles, fresh food, youth fashion and services.

Construction of Stage 1 commenced in May 2007 with completion and opening of Stage 1 anticipated early 2009. Stage 1 will consist of a new Coles Supermarket, and approximately 50 speciality stores.

Stage 2 will be built between 2009 and 2011. This eastern end of the development will house the new David Jones store, high end fashion, homewares, general merchandise and cafés.

The end value for the retail component of the project is estimated at more than $300 million.

Visit the Claremont Quarter website at www.claremontquarter.com.au

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THE VISION

The proposed overall development has been designed as an integrated commercial development which will create an active urban village where people work, shop, live, and are entertained within the locality of the Town Centre. The combination of Claremont Residences and Claremont Quarter is expected to generate high levels of vitality and activity throughout the day, particularly beyond retail hours.

The buildings will bring an eclectic blend of architectural style and form to the area by providing a visual sense of ‘harmonious diversity’. The development will result in a centre providing quality civic amenity to the locality while balancing commercial objectives. This will be achieved by incorporating a town square as a nodal point, being linked by articulated street frontages and pedestrian orientated main street shopping.

The retail component intends to provide a ‘wow factor’ through provision of convenience, services and architectural point of difference while incorporating an individual visual elements to provide additional signage opportunities and optimal product display.

The residential component will be visually separated and evoke sentiments of a private and exclusive sanctuary. This is to be achieved through the use of solid construction techniques, natural materials and façade modulation. The design should blur the transitions from internal to large external balconies and evoke a sense of a modern classic.

Claremont Current Retail (2007)
The current Claremont Arcade: 8,750 m²
Balance of Claremont Strip retail: 17,200m²
Total 25,950m²
Claremont Projected Retail (2011)
Claremont Quarter will offer: 29,500m²
Balance of Claremont Strip retail: 15,000m²
Total 44,500m²


ABOUT THE CLAREMONT REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT

Claremont Arcade was purchased by Hawaiian in 1993. Since this time, redevelopment planning has been an ongoing venture.

In 2003, Multiplex purchased a 50% interest to become a joint venture partner and the design for a mixed use scheme for the site was advanced. Development Application approval was received in April 2006.

The redeveloped centre will comprise the exclusive Claremont Residences atop the urban village of Claremont Quarter.
http://www.claremontquarter.com.au/Portals/0/images/Photo%20Gallery/TOWN_SQUARE_STQUENTIN.jpg

[WAuzzie]

lol nothing betta then going to an 'art gallery' during ur lunch break .... hmmmmm

[aaronaugi1]

Saint Quentin's
Stirling Highway, Claremont
http://www.domain.com.au/ore/Gallery/Photo.aspx?adid=2007284348&pic=3

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[Johnvb]

St Q's is coming along nicely, in fact the whole claremont redevelopment is packing a fast pace. Encouraging to see

[Auxodium]

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By Auxodium (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/Auxodium)

look at all that space that could be used too!

[TRS-80]

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/5400/20072843483fswy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
By Auxodium (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/Auxodium)

look at all that space that could be used too!

Err, that's where the Claremont Quarter (http://www.claremontquarter.com.au/) redevelopment is going on.

http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/claremont-quarter-2008-03.jpg

Ripped from their pdf newsletter as the main site has tiny images. Once they finish this stage next year they'll demolish the existing centre and rebuild it, finishing in 2009.

Claremont council is also working on redeveloping the area north-east of the current town centre, although their website is shocking so I can't find out where they're up to. The old Lakeway drive-in (http://www.lakeway.net.au/) is coming along as well.

[Auxodium]

ahh then that picture is old that i edited. my apologies. i dont visit claremont often.

[aaronaugi1]

ahh then that picture is old that i edited. my apologies. i dont visit claremont often.

you should. There has been a lot of development over the past 5 years or so. Claremont Quater, Refurb of David Jones, Christ Church development, MLC is building a new 5 story middle school. Should be some new development to the north of Saint Quentin's. Creating a nice little hub. To bad its squished between a train line and Stirling Highway. I hope the Claremont secton of the Fremantle line goes underground sooner rather than later. Would open up the Showgrounds and Claremont Oval to the rest of the strip. My favourite part of Perth.

[AndyGM]

Didn't Claremont council oppose any sinking of the rail line?

[docker]

carried over

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5412/5405412ml1212483959.jpg
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Subiaco Office Suites

Brand new self contained office suites due for completion in February 2009. Building has been designed to achieve a 4.5 Star Energy Rating under the Australian Building Greenhouse Rating System.

Located within the vibrant commercial precinct of Subiaco. Close by amenity includes shops, cafes and restaurants along Hay Street and Rokeby Roa. The development is within walking distance to the Subiaco train station. The office suites available have frontage onto Railway Road.

Areas Available:

Suite 1 – 144sqm
Suite 2 – 176sqm
Suite 3 – 70sqm

Rent $550/sqm.
Outgoings: estimated at $125/sqm per annum.
Car bays: secure undercover carbays available by negotiation at $200 per bay pcm.

http://www.realcommercial.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=o&id=5405412&f=60&p=30&t=com&ty=&fmt=&header=&cc=&c=78605283&s=wa&snf=as&tm=1212806052

[Auxodium]

wow how creative can perth get... let us have a shoe box design and cut an oval in it!

BRILLIANT!!!

[aaronaugi1]

Didn't Claremont council oppose any sinking of the rail line?

I think so. Only to preserve the station. I believe there has been a sign or two put up noting the historic significance of the station, but nothing has been done (yet) in terms of refurbing it. Currently is quite old and run down. They have done a bit of work on the street scape around the station and Claremont Hotel so i guess they wouldn't want all that to go to waste.

[PerthCity]

There has been a lot of development over the past 5 years or so. Refurb of David Jones,

Still looks dingy and squashed to me.

[aaronaugi1]

Still looks dingy and squashed to me.

inside...not the exterior. tony barlow got a refurb on the outside though...and i guess Times Square is fairly new.

[TRS-80]

Sinking the railway is part of the north-east precinct thing I think.

[perthgazer]

Study may lead to changes in Freo
WABN

Fremantle's Queen Victoria Street has long been home to an assortment of car dealerships and retailers, but plans to allow high-density development along the strip could lead to a redevelopment of the entire area.

The City of Fremantle has commissioned architectural firm Hassell to undertake a study of the street, with a view to amending its town-planning scheme.

It coincides with Match Property Group's proposed redevelopment of the heritage-listed Fort Knox site, formerly the Dalgety Wool Stores, which has been recommended for approval by the City of Fremantle's planning department.

A total of 222 units, ranging from one to three bedrooms, would be built under Match's current design, including a ground floor retail space for a cafe or art gallery.

If approved by council, the project could pave the way for other developments in the area.

Sydney-based EG Property Group, which owns 6,000 square metres of land either side of Queen Victoria Street, intends to build a mixed-use commercial and residential project, pending the outcome of Hassell's study.

The site's existing tenant, Fremantle Toyota, has a lease that expires in November next year.

Further down the road, car dealership Harbour Motor Company was recently put up for sale.

Under Hassell's study, which is close to being finalised, a number of scenarios for redevelopment have been put forward.

One of its key aims is to examine how the local planning scheme could encourage development to fit in with the state government's Network City and transit oriented development policies.

City of Fremantle strategic urban designer Ian James said the study would help to stimulate activity in the east end of Fremantle.

"A lot of properties through that area are certainly not developed to their best potential, but under the current scheme there is limited incentive for [owners] to redevelop, in terms of the built form and height limits," he said.

Under the existing planning scheme, new projects are restricted to a height of about four storeys and a maximum density of R60.

A revised scheme would allow high-density development, potentially up to R160, which would fit with the Network City objective.

"There's certainly been a fair bit of interest in the development potential of that area, by both property owners and others, but everyone is waiting to see what the outcome of the study will be," Mr James told WA Business News.

"The other side of Queen Victoria, fronting Quarry Street, is a residential area so the question of how any development will impact on the amenity of that area is an issue that needs to be addressed."

Also up for sale is Marilyn New's 11,130sqm Woolstores site on Cantonment Street, which is currently on the market for about $25 million.

The property consists of two lots, one of which has development approval for a mixed residential, retail and commercial project.

However, other high-density developments proposed for the Fremantle area have met resistance at council level.

SAS Global Ltd, owner of the OneSteel site in North Fremantle, is taking the City of Fremantle to the State Administrative Tribunal over its decision to reject a structure plan for the site.

The plan proposed by SAS, which contained 192 apartments and a total building height of up to 36 metres, was knocked back last month after the city adopted the recommendations of a height study of the McCabe Street area.

[aaronaugi1]

^^ key words..."if" "approved" "by" "council"

[Scraperfan]

what kind of heights are we talking about for R160?

[aaronaugi1]

what kind of heights are we talking about for R160?

9+

[tbor]

When talking development in Freo, DON'T bother talking about height. The mayor has specifically stated that new developments will not be taller than woolstores (6-7 stories yeah?).

... its ok in my opinion, you dont need to go tall to have high densities. I just wish the freo council would stop being so smug and actually realise they're sending it down the cultural shitter by letting the city stagnate for the last 20years. /end rant

[aaronaugi1]

When talking development in Freo, DON'T bother talking about height. The mayor has specifically stated that new developments will not be taller than woolstores (6-7 stories yeah?).

... its ok in my opinion, you dont need to go tall to have high densities. I just wish the freo council would stop being so smug and actually realise they're sending it down the cultural shitter by letting the city stagnate for the last 20years. /end rant

Thats no rant.

I agree. Id much rather see a city 5-10 stories everywhere rather than a CBD full of 250m+ towers.

[tbor]

ha yeah more of a whinge ;-)

[AndyGM]

I think seven stories is about the max for Freo. It would be great if Queen Vic st was completely redone though, the North East of Freo is such a crap hole.

[GAbE27]

The whole area near J.C and down Marmion St needs a firecracker up the ass. That area is great but it could be awesome!!

[docker]

SUBIACO IS considered westside, so don't post in the inner city thread.

Doesn't say how much they might go for though....

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=359&ContentID=94414

Young singles the target of new Subi development

2nd September 2008, 9:00 WST

Parents keen to boot their post-school children out of home but sympathetic enough to want to install them in non-grunge premises are expected to eye off a new Subiaco office and residential development that will include 10 apartments that have a single bedroom plus study nook.

Latitude 31 at 29-31 Roydhouse Street in the Subiaco Centro precinct will also have two three-bedroom 120sqm penthouses and 2276sqm of strata office suites over two levels, ranging in size from 80sqm to 570sqm.

Latitude 31, a play on the street number, was designed by the Bollig Design Group in collaboration with inner city property developer IDG and KKV Investments.

Senior architect and managing director Edwin Bollig said the one-bedroom apartments were quite large and ranged in size from 61sqm to 74sqm plus balcony.

“Parents would be able to help their kids get into their first place when they leave,” he said. “There is a bedroom with a study nook, a decent kitchen and outdoor living area. You can always go cheap and nasty but the whole idea was not to do that and cater for people looking for an alternative or an investment.”

The residences will have terraces and security features, including secured video intercom, lift and security basement parking.

“The idea is to cater specifically for Subiaco demand and that is for single parking, good access to public transportation, links to the railway, and trying to give people options so they don’t need to have two cars,” Mr Bollig said.

Most of the office suites on the ground floor have large private courtyards. In all, there will be 14 strata-titled offices which are well located, being close to the city and West Perth.

Roydhouse Street is one of the last under-developed land precincts directly connected to Subiaco Centro and is earmarked for a major transformation within the next 24 months, with an estimated $100 million worth of property investment expected to fire up next year. It will include developments containing offices, retail shops and upmarket residences.

A planned link to Hood Street will enable pedestrians to access the nearby train station, retail strip and cafes.

Subi Centro has proven a popular neighbourhood because of its proximity to the Subiaco campus of Central TAFE, Station Street Markets, Subiaco Oval, medical centres and hospitals, Home Base, and Subiaco Square shopping centre.

CATHY SAUNDERS

[Scraperfan]

drove past the new bold park housing estate yesterday, amazing location.

[Perth4life]

does anyone know when the next local election for Fremantle Mayor is?
i wana get rid of dickface, although i can't see it happening as he has a strong italian following.

[PD]

There's a new 7 level office/private hospital planned just down the road from King Edward hospital in subi. Looks sweet, pic is in the West.

[chrisaus]

why do we need a westside development thread are they going to be building in the ocean? its abit overboard consideing most of the western suburbs would be considered inner city, its getting to hard to figure out what threads to put projects in, why dont we just have 2 threads one for projects under 10 levels one for 10-20 levels and every development 20 levels plus can have its own thread?

[docker]

^^ i think it is pretty simple really;
inner city = City Of Perth
southside = South of the river
northside = northern suburbs (leederville, highgate, mt lawley UP)
westside = what people consider western suburbs (so from north fremantle up to scarborough and into subiaco and crawley) and
eastside = belmont to the east (midland, ellenbrook, kalamunda)

just basicly imagine a square in the centre of perth, encapsulating the City Of Perth (inner city thread) and then from each corner a line comes out and goes to the furtherest point, then you would have 4 areas surrounding the inner city thread which would be each of the north, south, east and west sides...

[Matt B]

Hmm I'd see Inner City as Subiaco, Vincent, Perth at least... then maybe South Perth and Vic Park if you want to cross the river.

Just seems wrong to say have a Leedy Development in the same thread as Jindalee...

[samboy]

Hmm I'd see Inner City as Subiaco, Vincent, Perth at least... then maybe South Perth and Vic Park if you want to cross the river.

Just seems wrong to say have a Leedy Development in the same thread as Jindalee...


Nothing to worry about there. I don't expect to see any leedy devleopments for a long time ;)

[chrisaus]

but freo and cott and scarborough cover the beach thread too.... get my point to many thread, i know i was the donkey who started these threads in the first place but I have done a political backflip :)

[docker]

well what about getting rid of the beach thread?

[dallastexjr]

It's all a bit pedantic really. Some suburbs cross over, eg Subiaco is west AND inner city imho. Most of us read all the threads anyway, so if we don't catch it in Inner City, we'll catch it in Westside. It seems to be personal opinion - Subi is west to you but inner city to me. Spell it out in the thread name if it bothers you that much, or just let it go.

[samboy]

here's my 2 cents... I think east/west/north/south is too confusing my suggestion would be

1. Inner City
2. Suburban
3. Beachfront

[Scraperfan]

I concur.

[Bonga]

I think that would make things a little too broad.

I like having the east/west/etc. threads, but we don't have to get carried away with enforcing it, especially with suburbs like Leederville and Subi that are sort of ambiguous. Maybe somebody could do up a simple map of the suburbs/relevant areas to use as a basic guide?

I personally am not bothered by a bit of overlap, or when threads stray off-topic a bit. That's how some of the most interesting discussions begin.

[samboy]

There isn't that much going on north/south/east west (outside of inner city) to make it viable. The burbs are the burbs so they don't need individual threads. Add inner city to that (including Mt lawley, leederville, subi etc) add beachfront (beach should override the burb) and that's it.

[dallastexjr]

In this thread just for you, docker...:)

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=359&ContentID=95795

Private hospital planned for Subiaco corner site

3rd September 2008, 9:00 WST

A $50 million private hospital is being mooted for a corner site next to King Edward Memorial Hospital in Subiaco, backed by a syndicate of businessmen that includes Murray Burton, best known for his Ferngrove Wines connection.

The plans for a hospital on the corner of Bagot and Railway roads come in a climate of woeful overcrowding of hospitals and long elective surgery waiting lists.

The developers want to build a hospital with more than 8000sqm of net lettable area plus 92 car bays. The proposal allows for a seven-storey development with a combination of medical facilities, 36 to 40 hospital beds, operating theatres, consulting rooms, pathology, pharmacy and potentially a gymnasium for physiotherapy patients.

It is likely to offer day surgery but might also provide overnight hospital stays.

The well-known, high-traffic 2032sqm site, which is zoned medical, now has five old houses and a delicatessen on it.

Mr Burton said the site, worth $10 million to $12 million, was owned by a syndicate that included his family company, Benfair Holdings, of which he is a director, and David Lynch, a director of Peard West Coast Real Estate.

Mr Burton is listed as a director of many other companies, including Ferngrove Wines and Ellenbrook Developments.

“Our plan is to provide the basic structure and allow someone to operate the hospital,” Mr Burton said. “We are looking at two floors being allocated to a hospital/day surgery operator and they would be the ones seeking to operate that outside the consultancy rooms, pathology and pharmacy.”

Mr Burton said the Subiaco City Council was happy with the concept.

“Medical-zoned land in the inner suburbs of Perth is in pretty short supply and certainly most of the specialists in Perth prefer to operate in close proximity to a major hospital,” he said. “So it is a unique piece of land.

“The design feature on the corner of this very busy road will provide Subi with an iconic private hospital that is really quite nice.”

The plans have been drawn up by the Campion Design Group.

Kristian Jeromson, of Peard West Coast Real Estate, said it was not certain yet what procedures would be carried out in the hospital but they could include plastic surgery, oral surgery and other treatment.

“It is dependent on the people who are leasing it,” Mr Jeromson said. “It could be a day surgery or maybe with overnight stays but it would not be a long stay ICU (intensive care unit).” The equipment is expected to be supplied by the lessors of the space.

Although leasing deals will be some way off, the rents are likely to be below $600/sqm.

“Because it is hospital or medical use, once completed you would probably think they will be around $550/ sqm,” Mr Jeromson said.

The plans will be submitted to the WA Planning Commission as the area falls under the Metropolitan Region Scheme. “We have been consulting with the City of Subiaco and obviously we have had their guidance on what they would like to see on the corner project there,” Mr Jeromson said. “It will be very contemporary.”

If approved, the hospital will probably not be ready for two to three years. The most likely name is Subiaco Private Hospital. The WA branch of the Australian Medical Association recently called for an extra 400 hospital beds to reduce emergency department overcrowding and cut waiting lists.

CATHY SAUNDERS

[chrisaus]

here's my 2 cents... I think east/west/north/south is too confusing my suggestion would be

1. Inner City
2. Suburban
3. Beachfront

sounds fair to me:banana:

[RocStar]

Here are some renders on the private hospital for subi.
http://www.campiondesign.com.au/files/subi1-colour_large.jpg
http://www.campiondesign.com.au/files/subi2_large.jpg

[Scraperfan]

that big blank blade wall is a mistake, too much bare concrete. will end up with dirty marks over time.

[dallastexjr]

Maybe it won't be just blank concrete - perhaps they'll cover it with an interesting render (I hope). Is tagging considered a render?

[city_thing]

Maybe a big giant sign saying 'Hospital'? Or that medicine sign that has the snake crawling all over the stick... or something

like this one, but without the globe in the background...

http://healthcare.zdnet.com/images/world-health-organization-logo.jpg

or a big red cross?

Add a focal point to the fucking thing.

[Scraperfan]

That might be a bit to extraavagent but signage there is a great idea even if its just writing, to be lit at night.

[TRS-80]

Claremont council released on Friday the documents for the Claremont North-East Precinct TOD (http://claremont.wa.gov.au/NEP/Page%201.htm) (warning: website doesn't work at all if you're not using IE, but you can browse the files directly (http://claremont.wa.gov.au/NEP/)). It's full of references to Network City, and one hopes it'll go through even if the libs scrap that. The proposed heights vary from 3-6 stories, with patches of 1/2 at the edges. There was talk of sinking the railway line, but I don't see it featured in this report.

[samboy]

I think Network City is just a 'name' and libs will scrap that for political purposes (to disengage themselves from labor's policies etc) however it doesn't mean they want use certain elements of it under a different banner. (a-la Rudd's workchoices etc).
-one would hope-

[Dilaz89]

New plan for Claremont redevelopment
Property: 25-September-08 by Emily Piesse


FIVE years after the first plans were drafted, the Town of Claremont has released its vision for a redevelopment of Claremont Oval and its surrounds.

To be developed by LandCorp, the Claremont North East Precinct project will contain about 520 new apartments and terrace houses - including a mix of one- and two-bedroom and studio apartments - along with 3,400 square metres of retail space and 11,700sqm of commercial/office space.

Twelve cottage lots, of 280sqm, have been put aside for terrace dwellings, while the rest of the residential area will be apartments, ranging from two to six storeys in height.

Most of the commercial buildings will be contained in the area between Shenton Road and the train station, in the parking area adjacent to Claremont train station, and discussions are being held to locate WA Police's western suburbs district metropolitan hub in the precinct.

Under the plans, two plazas will be created, with the oval acting as a village green space in the middle of the development.

Rooftop gardens and 'living roofs' have also been proposed, with more than 7,800sqm of public open space. In total, the area to be developed covers 7.2 hectares, which includes the council depot, Police and Citizens' Youth Centre, and land around the football club.

LandCorp is yet to decide whether to develop the site through a joint venture, as it has in Cockburn Central, or independently.

It will be the second major transit-oriented development undertaken by the government agency, as part of the Network City strategy.

Public transport is a strong focus of the plans, with a proposed Claremont-Scarborough bus service to be introduced and more frequent train services in the longer term.

A total of 1,064 car bays will be created, 620 of which will be for residents.

Claremont Mayor Peter Olson said in a statement that the precinct would be a leading example of sustainable development, creating improved pedestrian connections with the town centre.

"The overwhelming purpose is to ensure the [precinct] becomes a highly livable, people-focused area for future generations wanting to live in Claremont," Mr Olson said.

The structure plan will be advertised until October 10, before it gets adopted by council and forwarded to the WA Planning Commission for final approval, expected in 2009.

[Skyline Art]

New plan for Claremont redevelopment
Property: 25-September-08 by Emily Piesse

Rooftop gardens and 'living roofs' have also been proposed, with more than 7,800sqm of public open space. In total, the area to be developed covers 7.2 hectares, which includes the council depot, Police and Citizens' Youth Centre, and land around the football club.

LandCorp is yet to decide whether to develop the site through a joint venture, as it has in Cockburn Central, or independently.

It will be the second major transit-oriented development undertaken by the government agency, as part of the Network City strategy.

A total of 1,064 car bays will be created, 620 of which will be for residents.



That is great news, pitty I knew about this for a long time already... I just didn't think it would actually be given the green light to be published in the paper just yet...

The green roofs idea is great, about time this is starting to happen around the place...

Why so many car bays though, this is meant to be a TOD development.

[docker]

thanks to BartBart

From http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuId=3&ContentID=99968

Town sets high-rise and village green goal

27th September 2008, 11:45 WST


Claremont Town Council is pushing ahead with plans to redevelop 9.4ha around Claremont Oval for high-density living.

The proposal, developed over five years, is out for public consultation. It creates a new “village green” and a train station plaza and allows buildings up to six storeys.

Designed to conform with the previous government’s Network City planning policy for high- density residential and commercial development around transport nodes, the council is expected to adopt the plan in November.

Under the plan, the oval becomes a landscaped village green surrounded by walkways and playgrounds with a ring of commercial and residential buildings from two to six storeys.

A total of 527 dwellings are expected, mainly at the northern end of the oval and down Graylands Road. Commercial and mixed use buildings will be centred on Shenton Road and the western edge will cater for the football club’s needs.

Mayor Peter Olson said existing trees would be kept to help the area retain Claremont’s “leafy” character. Talks had been held with WA Police to construct its planned new western suburbs district metropolitan hub within the development.

“The overwhelming purpose is to ensure that the (development) becomes a highly liveable, people-focused area for transforming the poorly utilised north-east precinct into a vibrant centre with excellent access to public transport and improved pedestrian (access) to the town centre,” he said.

Chief executive Arthur Kyron said almost $750 million would be spend on infrastructure within the town over the next three years, including the $400 million Claremont Quarter shopping and residential redevelopment which is due for completion in 2011.

DANIEL HATCH

Image that was with newsprint copy p58

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1724/claremontiz3.jpg

[NailZ]

570 odd dwellings is pa-thetic considering its a 9ha site. I suppose that includes all that green space, claremont oval and such.

I suppose its a step in the right direction from such a backward antiquated locality such as Claremont.

[repi]

Oh come on, it's an amazing step forward and if there were much more density dumped there then it would be totally out of character with the area. This is exactly the type of development that we need.

We need more developments like this - it's sustainable, it's greatly increased density (527 dwellings, not 527 residents), it's mixed use, it's Network City, and above all it's interesting - it maintains the heritage of the oval and the footy club (ie the actual heritage of the area, not just fascades of old buildings).

We need more of this. To describe this as "pathetic" because of the lack of density is to advocate completely ignoring the existing environment and built form, and is to make the mistake of treating the pre-existing culture of an area as something that needs to be disposed of. This isn't a greenfields site like Cockburn Central. This is a sustainable, dense development in the heart of the western suburbs. It's brilliant.

[NailZ]

I suppose i was asking to much with this project, but ~500 is f*all. The western suburbs councils are going to have to churn out hundreds of renewal projects like this to house the hundreds of thousands people migrating to Perth in the next decade.

I would like to see Parisian density in suburbs such as Claremont, Peppy Grove and Dalkeith. I'll keep dreaming.

[repi]

I wouldn't be too quick to blame the useless western suburbs councils - after all, they're only responding to the useless western suburbs people :-)

It's all working out quite nicely, we're just taking baby steps first. Perry Lakes site was not as dense as it should have been (but has poor PT links). Leighton was slightly denser. This is denser still, and don't forget the Claremont town centre over the railway will have quite a lot of apartments. When it's successful, the next steps will be sites like the army barracks near Karrakatta, smaller chunks of the railway reserve, the KEMH site, Stirling Hwy near UWA...

[Sanj]

I would like to see Parisian density in suburbs such as Claremont, Peppy Grove and Dalkeith. I'll keep dreaming.


parisian density in peppy grove and dalkeith?

what have u been smoking?

[Lowdy79]

A couple of questions.

How the "China Green" development going?? driving past it seems no real progress.

What is being built opposite 418 hay street on the corner??

What happening with the outdoor/subiaco markets?

I can't believe the progress of subiaco these days.It has completely change to when i was kid.

:cheers:guys

[NailZ]

parisian density in peppy grove and dalkeith?

what have u been smoking?

Don't burst my bubble, I can dream can't I? :cheers:

[docker]

part 1
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part 2
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and there might still be some markets in Subi...
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6700/image003np1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


just wanna add my appriectiacion for Cathy Saunders, and Beatrice Thomas. Dan always seems to get the attention on here, but the other tend to do just as good of a job as him. so thank you to those two...

[Sanj]

"tenants locked in include a leading perth restaurateur who will open a tapas bar and restaurant" - i hope it's david coomer (star anise), he's been rumoured to have been opening a new tapas style place for ages now. will be able to do it justice as well.

i think the plans look great actually. $450/sqm for some of the office space is extremely cheap as well. I wonder why.

Bollig are doing a fair bit of the new stuff in Subi from memory.

EDIT: i agree with the praise of Cathy and Beatrice. Well done.

[samboy]

ACE cinemas bldg looks very nice (in color)

[Lowdy79]

Thanks docker for posting those articles about subiaco.

[Johnvb]

Subiaco really is hotting up, I think it will become perth's first true self-contained and active precinct. Projects include:
-China Green
-10 levels at the old market site
-ACE Cinemas Site
-The 'Edge' 100m down the road from the ACE site
-New Hospital

Not to mention its close proximity to the CBD and the other resi/commercial projects, oval, underground train and new bars and retailers!!

I think Claremont is not too far behind as well, just a pity its so overpriced.
-Claremont quarter: Retail, resi, offices and bars
-Saint Quentins
-Oval redevelopment
-Close to train and city

[Sanj]

claremont isnt overpriced.

it is pretty expensive and isnt my favourite place but it isnt overpriced. it is probably about fair value for what it is.

[PD]

Subiaco really is hotting up, I think it will become perth's first true self-contained and active precinct.

Would you not call Fremantle a self contained and active precinct?

[Bonga]

http://www.postnewspapers.com.au/20080927/news/009.shtml

Six-storey battlers take heart

The change in government has given Claremont residents opposed to six-storey shops and offices near the railway line new hope of stopping the high buildings.

Plans released this week show big blocks of six-floor commercial buildings around what is now the south-west entrance to Claremont Oval.

"Residents on both sides of the railway line have approached me to say they are very concerned," said councillor Jock Barker.

"Six storeys is overbearing, even to houses in the heritage precinct south of the railway line.

"People are watching the new central Claremont apartments being built and are telling me they do not want the same thing to happen next to the railway station.

"The units now under construction were in the plan as seven storeys but are effectively nine storeys," he said.

"All the walkways and village atmosphere that were promised have disappeared."

The new plan for the opposite side of the railway line, circulated to Claremont residents this week, also shows a proposed building identified only as "potential landmark structure" next to the train station.

"You have to wade through pages and pages of highly technical reports to discover that this is a proposed multi-storey carpark," he said.

The plan shows three, four and five-storey apartment buildings circling Claremont Oval.

There is another rooftop carpark where the council depot is now, next to the subway.

New Treasurer Troy Buswell this week signaled a change of government policy when he said Homeswest houses in the western suburbs might be sold.

The Claremont plan released this week, covering Claremont Oval and the land that is now a carpark north of the railway line, incorporates social housing under the policy of former Planning Minister Alannah MacTiernan.

The north-east precinct is in the electorate of new Premier Colin Barnett.

Claremont residents have been invited to have their say on the north-east precinct plans.

A special issue of the council's newsletter, Town Talk, outlines the plans and contains a survey form for feedback to the council.

Anyone who has not yet received a copy can pick one up at the council offices or the library.

Forms will also be available from the public display to be held at Claremont Arcade (outside Coles) this Thursday from 3pm, and on Saturday, October 4, at the special open day in the councillors' lounge (entrance in the library foyer).

[WAuzzie]

village atmosphere ... ffs.

High buildings ... get out of perth and visit the world u fucking clowns.

[WCG]

1. What new hospital in Subi???
2. Wouldnt it be cool if they sunk the tracks at Claremont???

[aaronaugi1]

1. What new hospital in Subi???
2. Wouldnt it be cool if they sunk the tracks at Claremont???

Council wanted to. Too costly and residents complained....as per usual.

Plus it would be a difficult project. Not much room to move or create a temproary track to keep the link between Swanbourne and Showgrounds while the construction took place. I'm sure it could be done...would just add to the cost.

[Bonga]

Council wanted to. Too costly and residents complained....as per usual.
Why didn't the residents want the line sunk? Fear of construction noise, disruptions, etc.?

Plus it would be a difficult project. Not much room to move or create a temproary track to keep the link between Swanbourne and Showgrounds while the construction took place. I'm sure it could be done...would just add to the cost.
Yeah. I guess this would not have been a problem at Subiaco, given all the empty/industrial land they had nearby.

Can anyone remember if/how badly the Freo line was disrupted by the sinking of the line around Subi? I didn't live in Perth at the time.

[acc521]

Amazing how people can judge the atmosphere of a project that is still under construction. Fools!

[chrisaus]

Barker Road, Subiaco

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/1242/5461242ml1224837481.jpg

http://www.realcommercial.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=o&id=5461242&f=60&p=30&t=com&ty=&fmt=&header=&cc=&c=1053219&s=wa&snf=as&tm=1225205070

[Johnvb]

The Claremont Quarter Redevelopment... looking very nice. It is a serious big development. 7 floors mixed use office, resi and retail with two levels below ground parking and street activation coming!! Stage one opens March 2009, about the only multiplex project running on time

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6361/cmontjm1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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[city_thing]

Looks very South Yarra-ish.

[Ipggi]

Looks like concrete slabs to me lol

[chrisaus]

yeah but we wouldnt expect you to say anything positive piggi

[Scraperfan]

ippgi does not resemble a pig.

[Auxodium]

he does now lol ;)

[Ipggi]

yeah but we wouldnt expect you to say anything positive piggi

Lol get over your premenstrual syndrome .. Does this not look like concrete slabs to you?!

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6361/cmontjm1.jpg

[city_thing]

Looks like concrete slabs to me lol

lol - there's this development beside South Yarra station that it reminds me of. Plus the whole development reminds me of something from the area.

I have a hangover....

[Scraperfan]

^^

http://www.thewest.com.au/getfile.aspx?Type=image&ID=429822&ObjectType=3&ObjectID=216429

Six storey office building planned for Subiaco site
31st October 2008, 9:45 WST

Former Subiaco industrial land will be transformed into a residential and office development up to six-storeys under a $150 million plan before the Subiaco Redevelopment Authority.

Subiaco-based developer Australasian Property Investments has plans for five buildings on the one hectare former Arcus Refrigeration site between Homebase Wembley and Subi Centro on Roydhouse Street.

The buildings will include 100 apartments, three-storey townhouses, 10,000sqm of office space and artists’ studios.

API director Adam Zorzi said the development, which is expected to go before the authority’s board this year, would include a high level of public art including a landmark “sculptural pavilion”.

Each building would be architecturally distinctive.

The company was in negotiations with the University of WA to use some of the space for artists’ studios.

Under the plan, two of the buildings are of six storeys and the others are three to four storeys.

Mr Zorzi said there was a deliberate mix of housing options within the development, which would go on the market at a wide range of prices to appeal to a diverse demographic.

Construction is expected to begin next year and completion is expected in 2010.

A community information day will be held at the Subiaco Square Shopping Centre on Saturday.

DAN HATCH

[samboy]

Looks Nice - My guess totally overpriced but will still sell

[Dilaz89]

I've met one of the directors of API. He spoke well of this development and how they've paid attention to quality architecture.

[Scraperfan]

I love subiaco. At this time of year im also pleased at their foresight to plant jacaranda trees.

When evaluating property im going to give serious consideration to living here.

[TRS-80]

http://www.postnewspapers.com.au/20080927/news/009.shtml

Six-storey battlers take heart


The council voted to go ahead with the plans as-is:
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[aaronaugi1]

Was in Claremont for the first time in quite a while the other day. Development is progressing well.

Certainly changes the vista looking down Stirling Highway and in the suburbs in and around.

A nice view from the always shitty Lake Claremont Golf Course!

[WAuzzie]

fuck small shit makes news ... uuuuh a 6 storey buildings is gonan get built ... holly cow dude mind blowing!

[Sanj]

it's the local paper. u dont think they should report what is happening locally? perhaps the news of a high rise building in say melbourne would be more relevant in a local paper in the western suburbs of perth?

[urbanwriter]

Sanj is totally right. From my point of view, I actually felt this was worthy of a small piece in the daily as well because it is such an interesting/new/different-for-the-area plan, but it was considered that little bit too local. That happens a lot to me, but I have to pitch these things anyway.
This kind of story is bread-and-butter for local papers. I spent six years on country and suburban papers and can tell you, people care about this stuff. This is huge news in the local area. Especially in the Western Suburbs.

[Dilaz89]

I hate how they call 6 storeys highrise.

Why don't papers adhere to the correct definitions?

[Bonga]

I hate how they call 6 storeys highrise.

Why don't papers adhere to the correct definitions?
Do we even have official definitions for this in WA? I've always thought of it as a subjective term without a widely accepted standard.

[Dilaz89]

even by skewed definitions, 6st does not equate to highrise.

Perhaps it would be good to introduce an official definition of highrise into state planning legislation.

[Bonga]

I personally agree, and think that it's often used misleadingly for emotional effect.

That said, Wikipedia does cite a few examples (including Massachusetts General Law) which would classify six stories as high rise:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_rise

[urbanwriter]

even by skewed definitions, 6st does not equate to highrise.

Perhaps it would be good to introduce an official definition of highrise into state planning legislation.

Okay, let's analyse this, because I come up against this a lot.

The term high-rise for us is a moveable feast and it depends on the local perception. Frankly anything above five storeys qualifies as high-rise if we're talking about suburban developments. Why? Because the locals (mostly in bungalows and two storey homes) fear overshadowing from what they consider massive and out-of-character buildings.

Five to six storeys in Subiaco or Claremont or Cockburn is probably going to be worth a story for us... because it will either be a landmark, is a significant investment or because the locals are up in arms.

In the Perth CBD however, I don't even think about writing about anything under eight storeys unless it is particularly special (Durack 2's application for turbines, for instance). I haven't got a definition for high-rise in the CBD because it's almost a mute point - people don't get upset about tall buildings there usually (lets ignore the Waterfront Project proposal). It's totally a matter of comparison and perception.

While six storeys might not be high-rise to a planner, it is to the person living nearby. In that sense, giving it an official definition enshrined in legislation is not going to do any good. Frankly, I hope our legislators have better things to spend their time on.

(Sidebar: we have stopped using the word architect to describe ANYBODY because it is a restricted word and the Architect Board shoots an angry letter threatening a $5000 fine if it is misused [which is only ever an accident]. Result, architects are now just called designers. We've got better things to do than prop up your egos).

Frankly, there is a sh*tload of jargon in planning and local government. My chief of staff will not actually let me use the term "Enquiry By Design" in a story, despite the fact that is the official name the Government has given the process. The reason is, it doesn't mean anything to anyone. We also have to edit out words like "recreate" (apparently a verb)and "strategise" which don't actually exist. What I'm saying is, come up with an official definition if you like, but we'll probably ignore it or find a way around it.

PS. So yes, I guess that's emotive, if you want to call it that. However, if you want to see ANY planning/development/new building stories get in the paper, you're going to have to put up with me using words like "high rise" when you're not convinced it is. Otherwise they'll get completely ignored. Trust me... I've been doing this for a very long time.

[acc521]

I'm confused about not using recreate. It is a real word - and yes it is a verb.

[Auxodium]

I hate how they call 6 storeys highrise.

Why don't papers adhere to the correct definitions?

gets people who dislike buildings that are taller than 3cm's to read the paper...

[urbanwriter]

I'm confused about not using recreate. It is a real word - and yes it is a verb.

In the sense of "recreation"?
I defy you to get it past one of our sub-editors!

[acc521]

Just curious as to why it wouldn't be used. For example how would "x stated the government's intention to recreate y on its former site" be written?

[docker]

http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/login.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wabusinessnews.com.au%2Fstory%2F9%2F69033%2F-50m-Swanbourne-project-doubt

$50m Swanbourne project doubt
11-December-08
Written by Janelle Macri

THE company behind the redevelopment of the old Swanbourne Hospital site says it will review its position following the State Administrative Tribunal's decision to back the City of Nedlands' rejection of the proposal.

The $50 million Montgomery Residences project, by Osborne Park-based Watersun Property Group, involved the conversion of most of the heritage building into 34 residential apartments and 16 grouped residences within the former hospital buildings.

The tribunal determined that the proposal warranted refusal, saying, "The demolition of substantial buildings with considerable heritage significance...is not generally in accordance with a development plan referred to in the local planning scheme."

Article continues...

[urbanwriter]

Just curious as to why it wouldn't be used. For example how would "x stated the government's intention to recreate y on its former site" be written?

No no no... I'm talking about "the park is used by people to recreate".
When the sentence should be "the park is used for recreation".

[acc521]

Ahhhh. Makes a lot more sense now :)

[docker]

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[GAbE27]

So its the councils fault that it is closing.... ?? Makes you think!!

[desperaterobots]

No no no... I'm talking about "the park is used by people to recreate".
When the sentence should be "the park is used for recreation".

What kind of recreation are we talking about here? Medieval, perhaps?

Hehe.

[Ipggi]

I thought I would go and check out the changes in Claremont today. I think this area will have real local high street feel to it once it is complete.

http://www.defacto2.net/x/claremont/1.jpg
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http://www.defacto2.net/x/claremont/1 (8).jpg

[aaronaugi1]

and residents were scared of this "high rise" ?

[Skyline Art]

Wow, that is somewhat a pretty bulky wide building...6 storeys at the highest point retail/residential? what are the street coordinates of this development again?
:cheers:

[aaronaugi1]

Wow, that is somewhat a pretty bulky wide building...6 storeys at the highest point retail/residential? what are the street coordinates of this development again?
:cheers:

Basically the whole area Queenslea Drive to Bayview Terrece will be overhauled in someway over the next decade. Couldn't give you the street names of this precice site.

[Ipggi]

Anything is better then the old open air carpark and stand alone Target Country store that used to be on the current development site. That was embarrassing hehe

[Johnvb]

I think it is one of Perth's biggest projects, the whole area will actually have some life to it afterwards. It may only be 7 storeys high but it is a significant area being re-developed!

[Scraperfan]

Right on there John. Its got more detail than most of the suburban cookie cutter style redevelopments.

Should have had more apartments though.