New in Cairns "Pier Monde".

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/0521/101130521ml1067321744.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/0521/101130521al1067321735.jpg

jt

thanks Jayt,its a nice looker!
ill add to ss.com!

doesen't QLD have any nimby's or something? skyscrapers seem to get the green light all over the place!

Well, there was a public debarcle over emerald and Brisbane's height limit is now 200m as a result...so yes!

Fortunately (or unfortunately) Queensland's property frenzy has fuelled the proliferation of these towers.

Originally posted by oztraelian
Well, there was a public debarcle over emerald and Brisbane's height limit is now 200m as a result...so yes!

Fortunately (or unfortunately) Queensland's property frenzy has fuelled the proliferation of these towers.

Oh thank God!!

For a minute there I though you said Emerald had been reduced to 200m. I went all over the forum looking for an official announcement from Cul.

Gee you scared me;)
jt

Wow, great find JAYT.
Great looking renders. Cairns has a bright future.
Shame that can't be said as confidently for Townsville.

Originally posted by Mr MacPhisto
Wow, great find JAYT.
Great looking renders. Cairns has a bright future.
Shame that can't be said as confidently for Townsville.

Really? How so? What's wrong with Townsville? I haven't been to either city, so I don't know a whole lot about the two...except I do know that Townsville has far outstripped Cairns in terms of population growth over the past 7 or 8 years!

Originally posted by finn
Really? How so? What's wrong with Townsville? I haven't been to either city, so I don't know a whole lot about the two...except I do know that Townsville has far outstripped Cairns in terms of population growth over the past 7 or 8 years! My opinion's mostly based on dicussions with residents of North Queensland. Alot of people feel that Townsville isn't going anywhere, with it's economy based around what little (medium-heavy) industry it has, growth prospects aren't looking as certain as Cairns predominantly tourism based economy.
Not as much money makes it from the big mines in the North to these cities as alot of people think.
Cairns is beginning a bit of a rennaisance at the moment, with some significant projects in the cities heart.
I'm certainly no expert on either city, but it's interesting to hear what some of the locals have to say.

cheers

Originally posted by JayT
Oh thank God!!

For a minute there I though you said Emerald had been reduced to 200m. I went all over the forum looking for an official announcement from Cul.

Gee you scared me;)
jt

My apologies. What a scary thought that is!:dizzy:

Originally posted by Mr MacPhisto
My opinion's mostly based on dicussions with residents of North Queensland. Alot of people feel that Townsville isn't going anywhere, with it's economy based around what little (medium-heavy) industry it has, growth prospects aren't looking as certain as Cairns predominantly tourism based economy.
Not as much money makes it from the big mines in the North to these cities as alot of people think.
Cairns is beginning a bit of a rennaisance at the moment, with some significant projects in the cities heart.
I'm certainly no expert on either city, but it's interesting to hear what some of the locals have to say.

cheers


Well i was born and bred in townsville before moving to Brisbane. And i did my first year of study at Jame Cook Uni in cairns so i could make it into the course i wanted then i transferred back to brissie.

And i honestly think that the two cities are pretty similar and i enjoyed Townsville more then Cairns. Though since i moved from Townsville ive only been up there for a a week or two every so often, and i havent been to cairns in one maybe two years.

but Townsville just had the "Strand" build which has really helped to bring a change to the city and is definetly one of the major attractions in the city at the moment.

Cairns just had the same thing done but this time in the form of the "Esplanade"(i was there when it was first U/C) which has basically brought about the exact same thing, a nice change to the cities

For those of you who dont know what the "Strand" of the "Esplanade" is, basically its there version of Southbank but on the edge of the ocean not a river.

um i cant really comment on the cities economies as i only worked at old mick D's when i lived there, but a interesting thing is that a lot of uni students who live in cairns have to move to townsville to complete there last year of the course. I guess that little example can be used to rate the cities importance.

Cairns admittedly has a much stronger Tourism market though a lot of the people arent really there for the city, there their for what surrounds it. So Cairns is pretty much stop over city on the way to bigger and better things.

Both cities have problems with development as Cairns is currently facing. Waterfront locations are being bought up and developed yet a lot of people think that its making the city lose its character. Townsville is proably a more steady going city while Cairns seems to be a varying city, as in the sense that when tourism slumps the city slumps and when tourism shines the city shines....where as Townsville just continues along at a steady pace.

Townsville is actually just in the process of having a new power station build which will help to attract more industry to the city. Townsville is seemingly turning into a industry driven city yet its still pretty diversified..

i just got back from cairns last weekend, have to say, love the casino! its brilliant. despite being small, its a really really attractive building. its got a big glass dome structure in the centre of the building shaped like a green house... and any city that has a louis vutton is bloody fantastic in my books... hehehe

the lone gay club 'nutrix' up there was pretty ordinary, but the gay resorts were everywhere! i think theres at least 4 main ones. turtle cove was crap, but having its own private beach makes up for it... liberty resort near kuranda was absolutely stunning, very very very noice!!! guess we know where all the money greg fisher laundered from satelite!! hehehe

I spent about 6 years in cairns and about 4 in townsville driving cranes on some of the hotels and buildings i found townsville to be a very dirty and depressing place to live even darwin was better cairns on the other hand was totally the opposite it was much cleaner the people were friendlier especially the overseas backpackers all round a very nice place to live

My mum comes from townsville, spent the early years of her life there (moved to brisbane early-teens I think), and she swore she would never go back it was that bad - However, for the first time in about 30-40 years or so we all went up in june (2003), and I saw Townsville and Cairns (among many other towns up there) and I must say, I was actually very impressed with Townsville, it was a lot better then I imagined. Even my mother who hated it, started talking about how much it had changed and really enjoyed it. I think both Cairns and Townsville were great, and I think they will both have fairly bright futures ahead of them whether it be in tourism and industry, or something else. But lets be realistic as well, their populations aren't about to explode past the 1 million mark any time soon, so they will still be small North Queensland centres for a long time to come. But I do believe Townsville will emerge as a flourishing city before Cairns - Townsville seems to have more current development and change and future development prospects - plus about double the population?? (not sure about that tho).

Hi guys, i'm from Townsville, i've been trying to find the article out of "The Townsville Bulletin" from about a month or so ago about all the new property developments in the city. I know from memory there are a number of new developments to start very soon. They are just finishing a new apartment development on Ross Creek (I can't remember what it's called) 3x7 storey towers with a coles supermarket as well. There are also proposals for the old T&G clock tower site, they are talking about demolishing it and building a new apartment complex on the site (7 or 8 storey from memory). There has also been an approval to build a new 10 storey 5 star hotel on Palmer st in South Townsville, approval has also been given for a new shopping complex on Stanley st (i think?) Woolworths etc etc at a cost of $14.5 million approx. Then there is the pending decision on the old hospital site, i for one, hope that they knock it down because it is a complete eyesore. (Maybe they could build a nice big 30 or 40 storey tower there?? :) Anyway, will let you know more when i find it out.

There must be a pretty strict height limit in Cairns though, with the airport being right next to the CBD?

Originally posted by BrizzyChris
There must be a pretty strict height limit in Cairns though, with the airport being right next to the CBD?

the planes land and take off in the opposite direction to the city of cairns. so flightpaths shouldnt effect building heights in the cbd.

Originally posted by Wezza
Hi guys, i'm from Townsville, i've been trying to find the article out of "The Townsville Bulletin" from about a month or so ago about all the new property developments in the city. I know from memory there are a number of new developments to start very soon. They are just finishing a new apartment development on Ross Creek (I can't remember what it's called) 3x7 storey towers with a coles supermarket as well. There are also proposals for the old T&G clock tower site, they are talking about demolishing it and building a new apartment complex on the site (7 or 8 storey from memory). There has also been an approval to build a new 10 storey 5 star hotel on Palmer st in South Townsville, approval has also been given for a new shopping complex on Stanley st (i think?) Woolworths etc etc at a cost of $14.5 million approx. Then there is the pending decision on the old hospital site, i for one, hope that they knock it down because it is a complete eyesore. (Maybe they could build a nice big 30 or 40 storey tower there?? :) Anyway, will let you know more when i find it out.

Yeah, that old hospital certainly is an eyesore. The quicker they knock it down the better. Don't think you'd get a 30 or 40 storey tower though hehe. But It's impossible to build something worse then the old hospital (or at least I'd hope so!).

Originally posted by Danubis
the planes land and take off in the opposite direction to the city of cairns. so flightpaths shouldnt effect building heights in the cbd.
Wouldn't that usually depend on wind direction. I've flown in over the city before.

"the planes land and take off in the opposite direction to the city of cairns. so flightpaths shouldnt effect building heights in the cbd."

Wind has a major bearing on what heading the aircraft take off and land. An aircraft should land into the wind. That being said, it is ok to land with a cross wind, but it's harder for the pilot and less safe. Landing with a tail wind could be just plaine stupid if the wind is strong enough.

After all that, i would say yes, there would be a strict height limit on the CBD.

Looks good, very fresh and colorful, but a bit grey and fat....but still ok...

I'm surprised the Townsville hospital lasted as long as it did. It looked so old and run down!

The land the only hospital takes up is prime land. It will be exciting to see what they do to it.

Originally posted by Wezza
"the planes land and take off in the opposite direction to the city of cairns. so flightpaths shouldnt effect building heights in the cbd."

Wind has a major bearing on what heading the aircraft take off and land. An aircraft should land into the wind. That being said, it is ok to land with a cross wind, but it's harder for the pilot and less safe. Landing with a tail wind could be just plaine stupid if the wind is strong enough.

After all that, i would say yes, there would be a strict height limit on the CBD.

be that as it may, having flown to cairns on quite a few occasions, the flight path has never been over the city itself, however, i concede that perhaps they do fly over the city when the wind dictates... in which case, WHO WAS THE NUTTER WHO PUT THE RUNWAY LIKE THAT!!!

The former Townsville General Hospital is slated to begin redevelopment mid-year. They are not knocking down the old building. I for one would not want to live in an old hospital. Besides, it's an extremely ugly building anyway. It will be interesting to see how it turns out when completed!!

Thought I'd bump this one up - Pier Monde is now well under construction. Anyone got details or pics?

I had a pic of Piermonde UC but it was on My Mum's Mobile and I wouldn't have a clue how to put it on the Internet. But either way its not too good of a quality and we were moving so I dont think its that good enough.

Any recent pics townsvillians?

Danubis, I posted a couple of pics of Piermonde on the Cairns Projects forum, look there. I'll put one or two on this thread.

http://www.twhedley.com.au/piermonde270904-1.jpg

Here's one for the forum.

Some recent pics:

Looks about 15 storeys - 2 to go
http://www.twhedley.com.au/piermonde111104-3.jpg
http://www.twhedley.com.au/piermonde111104-2.jpg

Probably already finished in terms of Construction but the Crane will still be there by the start of 2005. Just the Interior stuff to do now.

This is probably finished by now?? You there ferdinand? Been to Cairns lately Gertzy?
There hasn't been an update on the Hedley website since Feb.
http://www.twhedley.com.au/piermonde_update.html

Can't wait to see the finshed product.

I would say that they've finished with The construction part at least, and taken down the Crane even, but they probably might be doing interior work and the finishing touches etc.

Pier Monde is now almost complete - just some work to go on the podium by the looks. Residents should be moving in this month.

This photo is from realestate.com.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Oriolus/PierMonde2.jpg

That is looking good, kind of like Observatory Tower in BNE.

Hedley has updated the photos on the site, and may I say, boy, this is frigging good Apartment Complex.

Here's some of the new pics with The renders, and Its better quality than the one before.

http://www.twhedley.com.au/piermonde220605-1.jpg http://www.twhedley.com.au/piermonde220605-3.jpg
Wharf and Lake streets (22/06/05)

http://www.twhedley.com.au/piermonde220605-5.jpg http://www.twhedley.com.au/piermonde220605-6.jpg
Rear and Wharf Street Entrance

http://www.twhedley.com.au/piermonde1.jpg
Original Render.