Silly Bulgarian drivers must already change driving style

[radi6404]

Some roads in Bulgaria are improving, some not, the Stanishev government is doing way too little for Bulgarian infrastrucutre, basically nothing. But the drivers minds must be changed. Every night there are injured or dead people because of accidents on Bulgarian roads. That´s mostly because of the dumb chav teenagers who drive fast with fathers/brothers/foreing friends BMW or Mercedes and want to be cool and impress the girls "qkite Putki" in their languace. they do´t realise that they are doing very silly things and other people are dying because of them, because of their very careless driving, they think that some bitches and friends in the cafe will give them bonus points if they say, they overtook a fast car in a curve where there was no sight. Because of them being at the worng side of the two laned nationaroads many people are dying. A young girl I knew well for a long time died in an age of 20. They have to stop it already, Bulgaria is in the EU but many people aren´t, they are not intelligent and don´t have a clue of anything but they don´t care if others dye because of them. They have only intereest to be cool and get bonus points of their friends and even dumber girls who would let the guys fuck them even more easily if they would take them on a ride in their or not cars. But this thread and all the news are pointless since the chavs aren´t watching news and mostly don´t know how to use a forum aswell. they wont change their minds and apply clear european thinking but keep their careless village thinking and risk the lives of other people.

[just4ivaylo]

Yes, it's sad.

This forum is about developments and structures, if you haven't noticed Radi.

[nilix]

What about a thread "Silly Radi must stop spamming the forum".
Radi boy,you can't change the world,that's fact.Please write something that is not offtopic-for example you can write about the shiny Struma motorway or the roads in your village,post some photos or just stop spamming.
Radi,if write something different from "that's fucken,that's ugly,those men are silly,this is not goood" or Struma motorway I'll be so pleased.

[ВОДА]

Being careful at driving on the national roads is very important not for the driver`s life only but even for the surrounding people ones. :)

So, I support any idea improving the quality of drive in Bulgaria and anywhere else. ;)

That`s why for this thread I can simply say: I am with you Radi. :okay:

[Wizzard]

Radi, you are funny, I always smile when I read your new thread title :)

What I noticed in Bulgaria, I was very surprised that the drivers at Sunny Beach and surrounding towns drive very carefully, I think much better than in Bratislava. They always let us pass the road at "zebra crossing", even the drivers in expensive cars like Audi, BMW or Mercedes :)

[ВОДА]

Finally, something really creative. :)

Обсъжда се вариант за забрана младите шофьори да управляват автомобил сами

сряда, 20 август 2008

Всички млади водачи, които вземат книжка, трябва за първите шест месеца от своя стаж да шофират по улиците с придружител. Надзорникът от своя страна не трябва да има по-малко от четири години стаж зад волана, за да може да ги навигира.

Това е записано в част от препоръките на Държавно-обществената консултативна комисия по проблемите за безопасност на движението към Министерския съвет. Според един от членовете на комсията и бивш шеф на КАТ Алекси Кесяков новите предложения трябва да бъдат внесени за обсъждане в средата на септември в Министерския съвет, а до края на годината да станат факт чрез законови промени. Промените предвиждат за младите водачи да има специално изискване да не шофират в диапазона между 23 и 5 ч. сутринта, когато видимостта на пътя е най-слаба. За млади водачи се смятат всички, които имат стаж зад волана по-малко от две години, пише още в проекта, пише econ.bg.

Те няма да имат и правото да возят повече от двама пътници до 19 години. Ще бъде забранено да шофират без лепенка “Млад водач”. Лимитът за алкохол в кръвта на всеки млад шофьор е 0,2 промила, а не както за другите – 0,5.

Според експертите промените в закона ще помогнат на младите водачи по-бързо да придобият необходимия опит и увереност зад волана. Според черната статистика на КАТ всяка година десетки мъже и жени или такива, които нямат книжки, предизвикват катастрофи и така раняват или убиват хора. Само през 2007 година 92-ма са загинали, а 800 души са били тежко ранени заради неправоспособни водачи, сочи статистиката на Пътна полиция.

Ако полицаи хванат някого за трети път без книжка зад волана, пък ще може да се наказва с обществено-полезен труд между 40 и 80 часа. Всеки пътник, който пък се вози до водач без книжка, ще бъде глобяван с 50 лв.

Икономически портал на регион Стара Загора

[RawLee]

Actually,this is not something restricted to Bulgaria...not too long ago,a Mercedes crashed in Szentendre,because the driver wanted to "impress" its passengers(I think all below 18). Result is 2 dead and 2 seriously wounded,driver(17) unhurt. He will get 1-5 years,supposedly. I bet he wont evade the law this time,as one of the dead victims is the son of the environmental minister...

[ВОДА]

Last 45 minutes case... :ohno:

That`s why this thread is so important.


Кола блъсна майка с дете на зебра

20 август 2008 11:49


Майка и детето й са били прегазени на пешеходна пътека в Русе, съобщават от полицията. Инцидентът е станал в кв. „Средна кула".

25-годишната жена е пресичала улицата заедно с 5-годишния си син, когато били блъснати от лек автомобил „Опел Кадет", управляван от 21-годишен шофьор.

Майката има контузии по тялото, но няма опасност за живата й, докато детето е с контузии по главата и има риск за живота му.

Проверка е установила, че водачът не е употребил алкохол. По случая е образувано дознание.

[Le Clerk]

A Ferrari was speeding on the other side of the road last night in Timisoara and bumped into a car coming from the other direction and then hit a couple walking on the sidewalk. Both are dead, while the Ferrari is destroyed. :ohno:

You are not alone, so to say. :ohno:

[bgrs]

Това е някак по-забавно, макар и броят на жертвите да е много по-голям:


http://ruse-news.com/images/topics/news/agneta-lukovit08.jpg



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Няколкостотин агнета намериха смъртта си при катастрофа по пътя Плевен-София, недалеч от Луковит, видя „Русе нюз”.


Гръцки ТИР с ремарке, превозващ невръстните животни от Румъния към Гърция, не успял да вземе един от завоите, пропаднал в крайпътна канавка и се преобърнал. При „каскадата” голяма част от животните останали затиснати и предали мигом „Богу дух”.
Според участници в почистването, наети от пристигналия на място собственик на фирмата-превозвач, на място намерили смъртта си повече от 300 животни.
Тъй като при катастрофата преградните стени на ТИР-а се потрошили други, които явно били късметлии, успели да отърват кожата и избягали в крайпътните ниви. Спасителите загубили няколко часа докато ги събират.

[just4ivaylo]

300 jivotni v edin TIR? Wow.

That picture is not easy to look at. :(

[Cosmin]

Ny-_wn9mSfI
v_AMEYsBxZA
The faster the speed, the bigger the mess.
No seatbelt, no excuse.
Never ever drink & drive.
Pay attention or pay the price.

And another one, this time less shocking, but equally convincing.
fhV5O-it9kY

[Le Clerk]

I do not have those pictures with the guys who were competing who's car travels more in the sea. That's a first for me. I think the competition was betweeen a 4x4 Lexus and a Porsche Cayenne. Both cars were up to their windows in the sea.....:lol:

I think this is funny...it's a pity I can't find the pictures on the net....

[tomis3]

I do not have those pictures with the guys who were competing who's car travels more in the sea. That's a first for me. I think the competition was betweeen a 4x4 Lexus and a Porsche Cayenne. Both cars were up to their windows in the sea.....:lol:

I think this is funny...it's a pity I can't find the pictures on the net....

Did they drown? Not the cars...but the idiots driving....

[Ivanski]

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/Ivanski_sf/163561_orig.jpg

[[s2jc]hyp]

radi, this thread is about to be closed moron. you suck random dicks man

[Le Clerk]

Did they drown? Not the cars...but the idiots driving....

There was another case about a week ago....an idiot driving his Porsche Cayenne on the beach run over a couple who was sleeping there...the couple is fine but they got scared like shit. So, I gues, there should be some signs on the beach: Look out for the traffic! :lol::ohno:

[[s2jc]hyp]

if you don't stop i'll start a thread in general discussion Deutsch Forum: Radi's looking for a home forum and a country to call home and still can't figure out whether it be Bulgarisches Struma Autobahn oder Deutsch hubsch Madchen. DIN'T WORRY I CHECKED THE MAXIMUM LENGHT OF THREAD NAMES AND IT'S TOTALLY COMPATIBLE

[Wizzard]

I have one question, what means a "CA" mark on a car registration plate? I saw a lot of these marks at Sunny Beach. In Slovakia, we have also this mark and it means Čadca district ("okres Čadca" in Slovak, Čadca is a town in Slovakia)

[Le Clerk]

Precisely my question also while in Bulgaria! :cheers:

[Wizzard]

Precisely my question also while in Bulgaria! :cheers:

I guess you have also this mark in Romania (CA) and it means Constanta, am I right? :)

[Turnovec]

СА is for Sofia registration plate... as Sofia in Bulgarian is София, due to the fact that there is no "Я" letter in latin alphabet it is replaced with "A" thus - "CA" stands for Sofia. "СО" for example means Sofia district as "district" in Bulgarian is "Област" "Софийска Област" is Sofia district(all the small towns and villages around Sofia)

[Le Clerk]

I guess you have also this mark in Romania (CA) and it means Constanta, am I right? :)

Nope, Constanta is CT.

[Wizzard]

СА is for Sofia registration plate... as Sofia in Bulgarian is София, due to the fact that there is no "Я" letter in latin alphabet it is replaced with "A" thus - "CA" stands for Sofia. "СО" for example means Sofia district as "district" in Bulgarian is "Област" "Софийска Област" is Sofia district(all the small towns and villages around Sofia)

I see :) But... if the latin alphabet is used on the plates, why it is not "SA"? Now it looks that a mixed alphabet is used :) Is it like cyrilics is not allowed by EU? I think that the Greeks use their alphabet.

[Le Clerk]

It's interesting that in BUlgaria there are number plates for regions and cities. We only have for regions.

[Turnovec]

I see :) But... if the latin alphabet is used on the plates, why it is not "SA"? Now it looks that a mixed alphabet is used :) Is it like cyrilics is not allowed by EU? I think that the Greeks use their alphabet.

Yep it is a mixed use of the letters that only appear in both alphabets - A, B, C, E, H, K, M, O, P, T and X .

Letter like S, R or Я, Щ are forbiden. Veliko Tarnovo(Велико Търново) licence plate for example is "ВТ" ... Haskovo(Хасково) is "X" etc. ...

[Turnovec]

It's interesting that in BUlgaria there are number plates for regions and cities. We only have for regions.

^^ It is only for Sofia and Sofia region. I suppose because there are a lot more cars registred there than anywhere else in the country.

[Le Clerk]

Oh, we also have that here: B for BUcharest (because Bucharest is considered also a region in itself), and then IF for the region surrounding BUcharest. Maybe this is the explanation for Sofia and Sofia region.

[bgrs]

I think in Romania it's the same - they have B for Bucharest and IF for Ilfov (which is like Sofia-oblast).

Edit: ahhh you were first :)

[Le Clerk]

I think in Romania it's the same - they have B for Bucharest and IF for Ilfov (which is like Sofia-oblast).

Edit: ahhh you were first :)

^^:cheers:

[insertnickhere]

CA C CO = sofia, except pernik

started with C.. kept adding

[Turnovec]

Oh, we also have that here: B for BUcharest (because Bucharest is considered also a region in itself), and then IF for the region surrounding BUcharest. Maybe this is the explanation for Sofia and Sofia region.

I already wrote that 2 weeks ago when i was home in Veliko Tarnovo i noticed a lot of romanian cars parked all around the town. Even shot some fo them but didn't have time to upload the photos. There was one with "PH" on the registration plate ... What place soed that stand for ?

[bgrs]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Romania

Should be Prahova county....Ploesti :)

[Le Clerk]

I already wrote that 2 weeks ago when i was home in Veliko Tarnovo i noticed a lot of romanian cars parked all around the town. Even shot some fo them but didn't have time to upload the photos. There was one with "PH" on the registration plate ... What place soed that stand for ?

Prahova, the county N of Bucharest (Ploiesti is the main city). :)

[Turnovec]

^^ Thanks! Ploesti is the place where you got oil reserves, right ?

[bulgrai]

I see :) But... if the latin alphabet is used on the plates, why it is not "SA"? Now it looks that a mixed alphabet is used :) Is it like cyrilics is not allowed by EU? I think that the Greeks use their alphabet.

Haha, Cyrillic alphabet is the third official alphabet of the European Union after Greek and Latin. :) We use our alphabet, we just don't use some letters.

[Le Clerk]

^^ Thanks! Ploesti is the place where you got oil reserves, right ?

Well, Prahova county is the main place for oil reserves. Ploiesti is the one of the most industrialized town in Romania after Bucharest, mainly because it's only 60 km away from Bucharest and a lot of businesses have established there instead of Bucharest. Incomes in Ploiesti are very close to Bucharest. Petrom also has its main industrial platform over there.

[Wizzard]

Haha, Cyrillic alphabet is the third official alphabet of the European Union after Greek and Latin. :) We use our alphabet, we just don't use some letters.

Yes, but strictly said, for example, "C" in latin is not the same letter like "С" in cyrilics, am I right? Those letters just look equally, but they cannot be the same, because they represent different characters. Also in Unicode, they have different codes, afaik.

[radi6404]

hyp;24276996']if you don't stop i'll start a thread in general discussion Deutsch Forum: Radi's looking for a home forum and a country to call home and still can't figure out whether it be Bulgarisches Struma Autobahn oder Deutsch hubsch Madchen. DIN'T WORRY I CHECKED THE MAXIMUM LENGHT OF THREAD NAMES AND IT'S TOTALLY COMPATIBLE

Okay, this time it was enough, I already reported you because it´s enough.

[zzibit]

something that is very on topic

630 casualties on the road so far this year, 6800 injured

and we still have 5 more months to go :ohno:


630 жертви на катастрофи от началото на годината

От началото на годината 630 са жертвите при катастрофи у нас.

Над 6800 са ранените. Това съобщи за БНР комисар Алекси Стратиев - директор на Пътната полиция - КАТ.

Той допълни, че не е оптимистично настроен за статистиката следващите месеци.

[Le Clerk]

something that is very on topic

630 casualties on the road so far this year, 6800 injured

and we still have 5 more months to go :ohno:


^^About 2.500 people die yearly in Romania from car accidents. That is, an entire village is wiped out yearly. :ohno:

This is also because both Romania and BUlgaria do not have proper roads. Motorways are a big factor for reducing accidents and especially fatal accidents. :ohno:

[radi6404]

^^ that´s amazing, that´s mass dying and is very embarassing, I guess there are too many chav kids who want to impress the girls and friends of each other, too. Taht´s a major factor why there are so many accidents. And ofcourse the other major factor is lack of motorways, it is a different feeling to have the road in one direction while the other direction is divided by hopefully shiny crashbarriers. But if the drivers would be careful a big amount of accidents could be avoided.

[zzibit]

^^About 2.500 people die yearly in Romania from car accidents. That is, an entire village is wiped out yearly. :ohno:

This is also because both Romania and BUlgaria do not have proper roads. Motorways are a big factor for reducing accidents and especially fatal accidents. :ohno:

I disagree. Although poor road infrastructure is also responsible, the main reason for this genocide is primitive driving mentality. the road culture around here is absurd. and the result is genocide:bash:

[bgrs]

Well, hundreds of accidents happen because there are still very busy 1x1 roads. People attempt to overtake then crash into the car in front or smth like that. So the roads are to blame as well. Road infrastructure should be more idiot-friendly.

[Wizzard]

While my stay in Bulgaria, I was very surprised when I saw the traffic lights with a "timer" displaying the number of seconds remaining to the red light. I never saw something like this before and was very impressed by that :)

[RawLee]

Well, hundreds of accidents happen because there are still very busy 1x1 roads. People attempt to overtake then crash into the car in front or smth like that. So the roads are to blame as well. Road infrastructure should be more idiot-friendly.

Actually,do you know which is the most secure location on a 2x1 road? This:









http://www.nagykutya.hu/pictures/kamion.jpg

So you know why? Because of this:













http://tuzoltosag.siofok.hu/kepek/051215kamion.jpg

This particular yellow truck was hit by an other truck,so its safe to say you're safe behind it.

[bgrs]

Unless you can't stop quick enough and bump into its back :)

[bgrs]

While my stay in Bulgaria, I was very surprised when I saw the traffic lights with a "timer" displaying the number of seconds remaining to the red light. I never saw something like this before and was very impressed by that :)

Yeah, they're pretty common here, dunno the exact reason though.

[RawLee]

Unless you can't stop quick enough and bump into its back :)

Show me a truck that stops faster than a car...if you keep that 10m distance,you wont have problems at 90.

[bgrs]

Well if it bumps into another truck, it will stop faster than most cars behind it :)

[radi6404]

Well if it bumps into another truck, it will stop faster than most cars behind it :)

:lol::lol::lol:

[Le Clerk]

^^ that´s amazing, that´s mass dying and is very embarassing, I guess there are too many chav kids who want to impress the girls and friends of each other, too. Taht´s a major factor why there are so many accidents. And ofcourse the other major factor is lack of motorways, it is a different feeling to have the road in one direction while the other direction is divided by hopefully shiny crashbarriers. But if the drivers would be careful a big amount of accidents could be avoided.

Tonight there was a debate on a central news TV about young rich kids who cause accidents when their parents buy them expensive cars. I was telling you yesterday about the accident of 2 days ago in Timisoara when a 20 years old kid driving a Ferrari raced someone else and entered the wrong direction, hit another car and then hit a couple who were walking on the sidewalk. It was the first day the kid drove the car.

The same thing happened one week ago when another young kid driving a Lamborghini Murciellago raced another kid who was driving a Lamborghini Galardo (I am not kidding about the cars!!) on the streets of Bucharest. The first kid derailed and hit another person who died. It was also the first day the kid was driving that car.

I agree that education is part of the problem (and not only the education of kids), but a lot more accidents happen because of poor roads where people take high changes when taking over other cars on 1x1 roads.

There are several campaigns in Romania now, initiated by the government and some private companies (including Petrom) who aim at dissuading people from driving carelessly.

[bgrs]

I remember OMV giving you a leaflet about safe driving...it was some months ago.

BTW in Bulgaria they tried many things...like false police cars at the roads (they scare only some foreigners)...or the most brutal one, they put some badly destroyed cars near some junctions, tunnels, etc.

[Wizzard]

Lamborghini Murciellago raced another kid who was driving a Lamborghini Galardo

Omg, those kids has very rich stupid parents (I saw one Lamborghini in Bratislava today too, though :))

But what I wanted to say, I was also surprised at Sunny Beach (yes, again :)) that most of the cars was the brand that is still hard to find in my city (Ferrari etc.). Seems like all the "elite" from Sofia etc. really like that destination :nuts:

[ВОДА]

I remember OMV giving you a leaflet about safe driving...it was some months ago.

It`s a very good initiative! ;)

Do they still do that?

[bgrs]

Hmmm...no, maybe there are some at the stands though, dunno. It was full of good advices for example what happens if you put your suitcase on the backseat and crash at 80km/h, making it kinda dangerous weapon.

[bgrs]

Omg, those kids has very rich stupid parents (I saw one Lamborghini in Bratislava today too, though :))

But what I wanted to say, I was also surprised at Sunny Beach (yes, again :)) that most of the cars was the brand that is still hard to find in my city (Ferrari etc.). Seems like all the "elite" from Sofia etc. really like that destination :nuts:

Did you notice how many drunk/high drivers were there in the night :( Absolute hell. BTW last year a famous sportist (he had many gold medals from world championships) killed one man and injured badly a girl, driving drunk, not very far away from Sunny Beach. The ironic thing is that he was one of the people that took place in the "don't drive drunk" campaign. His car had those stickers.

[ВОДА]

Hmmm...no, maybe there are some at the stands though, dunno. It was full of good advices for example what happens if you put your suitcase on the backseat and crash at 80km/h, making it kinda dangerous weapon.

OMG, that`s true.

Especially if you put a briefcase instead of suitcase it might be very painful... :lol:

[zzibit]

Omg, those kids has very rich stupid parents (I saw one Lamborghini in Bratislava today too, though :))

But what I wanted to say, I was also surprised at Sunny Beach (yes, again :)) that most of the cars was the brand that is still hard to find in my city (Ferrari etc.). Seems like all the "elite" from Sofia etc. really like that destination :nuts:

hmm let me explain something. SB has been a money laundering machine for a while now. So imagine who the owners of some hotels are. The Ferraris you saw are owned by businessmen, rich spoiled kids, mafia etc.

[petet]

Вчера,пък някакъв тъпак с бясна скорост на кръстовище си мина съвсем обезпокояващо с Пежото си на червено и така си продължи...дано си получи Коледната картичка...

Цяла България трябва да се "ъпдейтне" по-сериозно,и поне половината няма да имат книжки или няма да знаят дори 1 правило...просто с всеки изминал ден се убеждавам,че тези тъпаци стават по-зле и по-зле...

На цяла България "майките" й вече оправиха ...

То не само шофьорите,но и пешеходците дето седят на краят на бордюрите и като мине градски автобус отиват под колелата или изкачат изведнъж и са премазана,а и изперкалите бус-шофьори,тирове,камиони...абе просто таз България като че ли с всеки ден по-зле става...на всички ли им е писнало да живуркат...да умреш в автомобилна катастрофа...жалка работа

[Wizzard]

hmm let me explain something. SB has been a money laundering machine for a while now. So imagine who the owners of some hotels are. The Ferraris you saw are owned by businessmen, rich spoiled kids, mafia etc.

Yep, I thought it is just like you explained...