New York Freedom Tower (1 World Trade Center) Vs Shanghi World Finance Center + With Poll

[NewYorkForever2016]

Which do you think is better?

FreedomTower

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/kyle444444/Freedom_Tower_New.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/kyle444444/13_36_Downtown-Skyline-by-Day-credi.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/kyle444444/13_36_dbox_99church_dusk_revised1.jpg

Shanghai World Finance Center

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/kyle444444/2744002972_bebcc45329_b.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/kyle444444/2750596984_7c4bbfed3b_b.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/kyle444444/2708110958_f7e5563527_b.jpg

[fish]

New York - Freedom Tower (One World Trade Center)
That's my vote!
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[Cosmin]

Better? In what way? But anyhow... as to not overcomplicate things, my vote goes to...
*drums beating*
1 WTC aka Freedom Tower!
:D

P.S.: TalB would kill me for this.:shifty:

[MrColombia]

I still dont get the FREEDOM tower...its just like "OK" another building more in the NY SKYLINE.....would have rather just left that area as a BIG MEMORIAL PARK (ZERO BUILDINGS)

[fish]

I still dont get the FREEDOM tower...its just like "OK" another building more in the NY SKYLINE.....would have rather just left that area as a BIG MEMORIAL PARK (ZERO BUILDINGS)

Wow, you are such an anti-skyscraper fan, aren't you http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/mr-fish/Miscellaneous/q.gif :ohno:

[NewYorkForever2016]

I still dont get the FREEDOM tower...its just like "OK" another building more in the NY SKYLINE.....would have rather just left that area as a BIG MEMORIAL PARK (ZERO BUILDINGS)

The memorial park was nothing but a big rock the height of wtc 7, why would you want that?:? The freedom tower is Beautiful and 4 years after it's finsished i'm sure a lot of people that hate it will love it:D

[fish]

^^ I believe that once the entire World Trade Center complex (along with other related projects) are complete, everyone shall see the new vision of Lower Manhattan come to life. :)

[np93]

Freedom Tower is very pleasing to the eye but some people might still miss the old skyline.... looking toward the brooklyn bridge and seeing the twin towers. Hopefully people will grow to love the new World Trade Center Complex just like they did to the old WTC

[fish]

Hopefully people will grow to love the new World Trade Center Complex just like they did to the old WTC

I believe it is a matter of time.

The entire complex, along with surrounding developments all combined will create a new enhancement to the skyline.

No matter where the view, every single tower will contribute, in their own unique ways a better, more vibrant Lower Manhattan.

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[ElCrioyo]

why such a stupid comparison?(always comparing shit to other countries...)

Both of them look nice, similar, but how could you say which one is better?

[fish]

why such a stupid comparison?(always comparing shit to other countries...)

It's not about the countries, but the designs of the towers.

For example, on its own, the Shanghai tower looks awesome, but as a complex comprising all developments, the Freedom Tower has a much more substantial presence.

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[Vrysxy]

The Freedom Tower rocks :D

[Ichiban]

I was one of the advocates of rebuilding the twin towers. I think the new Freedom Tower looks like shit so by default my vote goes to the Shanghai building.

[fish]

I was one of the advocates of rebuilding the twin towers.

So was I.

But Lewis Epstein was too stubborn to quit leading his group down the wrong path.

Many of us deflected and formed our own opinions.

I think the new Freedom Tower looks like shit so by default my vote goes to the Shanghai building.

Pathetic excuse!
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[NewYorkForever2016]

I was one of the advocates of rebuilding the twin towers. I think the new Freedom Tower looks like shit so by default my vote goes to the Shanghai building.

No you don't you just wan't the old twin towers so much you despise this one so much. :nono: It's going to be beautiful ad you know it :D

[fish]

^^ NewYorkForever2016, I know you loved the original twin towers as much as everyone did, probably more since you have it as your iconic badge (avatar)!

Just glad to see someone with an opinion that makes sense!
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[Ichiban]

^^ NewYorkForever2016, I know you loved the original twin towers as much as everyone did, probably more since you have it as your iconic badge (avatar)!

Just glad to see someone with an opinion that makes sense!
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Let me expand on my original sentiments although most may not agree with me.

I don't want the twin towers back for their architectural merit per se but the fact that they were a symbol of American economic might. The twin towers were grey, domineering, and imposing. It gave that image of "hey we're America the richest nation on earth you cocksuckers".

Then after the tragedy of 9/11 I immediately started wincing when these new artsy-fartsy proposals started coming in for the WTC site. Oooh it's 1776 feet tall. Oooh the sun will reflect inside on 9/11 at the exact moment when the first plane hit. LAME ASS BULLSHIT.

I first responded in haste but looking at the renderings again, the Freedom Tower just does nothing for me. It would probably look good in Las Vegas but for being on the WTC site it just doesn't move me. Fuck at least that Shanghai building has a distinct look with that box on top.

Anyways I'd love to debate this further but I'm getting ready to get the fuck outta here for the weekend. Happy Labor Day everybody!

[fish]

^^ The Freedom Tower by itself looks uninspiring (it cheats to get to the height with a spire), but as a unified complex comprising supertalls, it looks outstanding (not imposing in the way the Twin Towers did).

I support the idea of more towers of various heights versus identical twins, but would have preferred for a more substantial height of 2,001 feet to show respect for the year of the attack of the original Twin Towers.
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[redbaron_012]

Even the Shanghai WFC will soon be trumped by a taller building nearby....making a supertall grouping like the WTC complex.
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6118/shanghaicenterdragonalarh5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
PS.....the trouble with making a building a signficant height in 'Feet' doesn't concider the likelyhood of imperial measurements to be obsolete in the future....years ago we erected a 150ft plagpole for our 150th birthday but now have metric system so people don't see the height as a figure of note.

[MrColombia]

Wow, you are such an anti-skyscraper fan, aren't you http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/mr-fish/Miscellaneous/q.gif :ohno:

I'm not, i just think what they are doing is "CHEAP" looking. They could have done better, especially with this project.


It looks somewhat like the Bank of America building.....


Will the building have a tourist view at the top?

[koolkid]

Are you saying BOA is cheap looking?

[fish]

^^ Ignore those ignorant comments! :ohno:

A real skyscraper fan would never insult a good lookin' skyscraper like the BOA for example.

[MrColombia]

They are not ignorant.....its a personal choice & opinion...

Its like if you hate this building and i dont, its simple enough....its not your taste.

and Yes...i think its ugly.

[fish]

^^ Fair enough!

I don't follow threads of "ugly" buildings and spewing disrespect throughout these forums.
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[MrColombia]

Its not disrespect....its an opinion.

[koolkid]

fish, take it easy..

Anyway, both buildings are great. I say freedom tower works better with it's suroundings.

[fish]

I say freedom tower works better with it's suroundings.

I agree 100% with your opinion, koolkid! :okay:

Like you said, by itself, it's not very interesting, but as a part of the complex of surrounding super talls, it looks great!
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[gusgazman]

A building is like an art piece... you can like it or not...
In my humble opinion SWFC is like a beautiful Dali painting, FT is like a Picasso, which I don't particulary like... Both are masterpieces, but it depend on us if we like them or not...

[NewYorkForever2016]

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[NewYorkForever2016]

I'm not, i just think what they are doing is "CHEAP" looking. They could have done better, especially with this project.


It looks somewhat like the Bank of America building.....


Will the building have a tourist view at the top?

Well if you mean the observation deck, there isn't a plan for one outside but there is going to be one on the 102nd floor.

[christos-greece]

Freedom Tower :okay:

[luci203]

This thread here is irelevant.

Of course In a New York Thread, FT will win, just like in Shanghai thread SWFC would. (be sure a Russia Tower vs Chicao Spire on the russian forum, most people would choose RT)

How many people from asia really visit this thread. I guess a lot of the votes colected by SWFC are actually americans anti new WTC design.

As an European, SWFC get my vote.

WTC is a box with a spike on top (BoA Tower have a much more complex and original design). SWFC is an interestig design, and that hole make-it very unique.

Both towers look good. :cheers:

[cornish pasty]

I am a fan of both towers but I have to say in regards to the individual towers, the sheer elegance of SWFC wins it for me.

Although as a complex, this image is particularly impressive:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/kyle444444/13_36_Downtown-Skyline-by-Day-credi.jpg

I would not mind waking up to that every morning.

[johnt_gr]

Freedom tower of course!

[meh_cd]

I used to love the SWFC but now that it is finished I find it a little underwhelming. Going to have to go with WTC1. I'm hoping the crown pans out as well as it looks in the renders. The antenna on the original was always one of my favorites.

[nygirl]

:dunno:One is built the other is in the earliest stages of construction.:dunno: