They put signs up today for a new building to be built on the N-E corner of Orchard View and Duplex, which is one block N of Eg, one block W of Yonge.

This is a highly contested corner as the first building proposed for this sight was defeated by the NIMBYs in the area.

So the developers razed the homes that were on the corner and put in one of the THE MOST HIDEOUS Impark parking lots you'll ever see. They didn't even pave it. Just dumped down some rocks. And when the parking lot first opened, the developers had the original proposal sign built into a fence at the back of the lot (there was even a big NO! painted on it by a local resident when the building was first proposed). Talk about a royal screw you to the NIMBYs. "You didn't want my nice condo building. Fine, try this on for size."

Wonder what sort of battle the NIMBYs will put up now?

hopefully they will have given into the fact that their location and realistate values mean that developments like this are inevitable.

the houses in the immediate area aren't really that nice anyway. IMO, the houses get nicer the farther away you get from the yonge n eg intersection. .... Also i dont think the nimbys have much to bitch about now that a shitty parking lot is getting removed

Here's some more details:

20 storey, 236 unit condo. In addition, the development would include an 8 storey podium and six 2 storey townhouses on Duplex. Community meeting Oct 6th to discuss the application.

All this seems very reasonable, IMO. It's across the street from a 24 storey bldg and situated right beside another 17 storey bldg. And it tapers down to Duplex. And let's not forget, it beats an F'n parking lot.

and wayyy better then the crack houses that were there before the parking lot

Wonder what sort of battle the NIMBYs will put up now?

And let's not forget, it beats an F'n parking lot.


To address your your first point: mind your own fuc*ing business.:lol::lol:

2nd point: I disagree. I now have a beautiful view of the YEC loading door and I appreciate the fine grade of aggregate used in the PL at OV and Duplex.

Oh yeah, 95Bob. Or is it 95(year-old)Bob, who likes things just the way they were - in 1895?

Whatever. No matter what you do, a condo will be built right in front of you. You may win a little battle - perhaps a 2-3 floor height decrease - but you will lose the war. You live far too close to a major corner. A corner that's going to grow big time with a new cross-town transit line and developed TTC lands.

Times they are a changing, 9(0)5Bob.

It may be close to the Yonge/Eglinton intersection however this property should be considered as a transitional one between the highrise YEC and the lowrise community beyond. I imagine something possibly terraced from a maximum of 8 to 10 storeys down to 3 to 5 storey on the Duplex side . It's certainly not suited for the tallest and densiest development on this corner of Y&E and anyone to suggest otherwise is not thinking straight. (obsessed more with height and density than good planning)

Damn size queens!

17-20 stories is perfectly suitable for this spot if it is set back from the corner, more toward the east end of the property (next to the 17 storey library building). The proposal already calls for scaling down to 2 storey townhouses on Duplex.

17-20 stories is perfectly suitable for this spot if it is set back from the corner, more toward the east end of the property (next to the 17 storey library building). The proposal already calls for scaling down to 2 storey townhouses on Duplex.


Where do you get your information from?
Obviously you don't have a fu*ing clue what's happening here boy. Go back to yo basement bedroom at yo momma's house, smoke a spliff and play Donkey Kong till dawn looooser freak:lol:.

At least he didn't resort to juvenile name-calling...

Where do you get your information from?
Obviously you don't have a fu*ing clue what's happening here boy. Go back to yo basement bedroom at yo momma's house, smoke a spliff and play Donkey Kong till dawn looooser freak:lol:.

He probably got his information from the official plan which is a plan, in case you are interested, that sets out future growth objectives and current planning policies for the city. With a new planned rapid transit route along eglinton, you don't seriously expect that too remain a parking lot. Its going to be a building, likely with the same height and maybe gentler massing as the building above the library. You seem to want the perfect world, living close the a major intersection of midtown, yet off in a quiet nook. And we have had that in this area but pretty much the entire block west of Yonge from Eglinton, up to say Castlefield is potentially under the redevelopment zoning for the next decade or so. Things change, these developments will happen, if not at somewhat reduced heights. Also, I remember you and if you are just on here to name call and insult people, I think the MODS should either give you a warning or ban you altogether.

Cheers Bob.

Where do you get your information from?
Obviously you don't have a fu*ing clue what's happening here boy. Go back to yo basement bedroom at yo momma's house, smoke a spliff and play Donkey Kong till dawn looooser freak:lol:.

switch to decaf, man.

He probably got his information from the official plan which is a plan, in case you are interested, that sets out future growth objectives and current planning policies for the city. Cheers Bob.

Key word here is "probably", you don't know either, do you?

With a new planned rapid transit route along eglinton, you don't seriously expect that too remain a parking lot. Cheers Bob.

Uh read the paper lately?
The City is raising property taxes 2% - 4%, don't forget the $60 levy when you renew your licence sticker for being priviliged enough to own a car in Toronto, the 9% increase in water. The city is financially challenged. Read on.

The province is now projecting a defecit. Something about reducing spending increases to health, education, etc and delaying new spending on things like new subway lines. The province is financially challenged. Read on.

PM Harper can announce the subway line until he's blue (no pun intended) in the face. In fact he's busy "back-stopping" banks, bank rolling our boys in Afghanistan and cutting taxes, see http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081024.wmartin25/BNStory/politics/home . Canada is financially challenged. Read on.

So THE POINT IS unless the Eglinton subway gets private financial backing, IT WON'T HAPPEN. If it does, it will be completed around 2025. See the abandoned bus bays? Nothing has happened there in ages either.


Its going to be a building, likely with the same height and maybe gentler massing as the building above the library. You seem to want the perfect world, living close the a major intersection of midtown, yet off in a quiet nook. And we have had that in this area but pretty much the entire block west of Yonge from Eglinton, up to say Castlefield is potentially under the redevelopment zoning for the next decade or so. Things change, these developments will happen, if not at somewhat reduced heights.


See 1717 Avenue Road? see http://www.1717avenue.com/ I don't have a problem if the developers build something that size. The folks who live on Duplex between Helendale and Montgomery will have a problem with it but you don't care about them. If you are in the neighbourhood, go knock on the door of the house that is just north of the 2 houses slated for demolition and ask him what he thinks of the proposed project. Its either 447 or 449 Duplex.


Also, I remember you and if you are just on here to name call and insult people, I think the MODS should either give you a warning or ban you altogether.

Cheers Bob.

Grow up. I frankly don't care what you do.

Grow up. I frankly don't care what you do.

Couldn't have spoken it better myself. Obviously you forgot what you posted earlier calling someone and idiot or other such insult. Anyways, your ideals for the area are very passe, if the city remains suburban near subways we are hurting ourselves and the growth of the city, growth which will happen inevitably. Best to grow responsibly, ideally redeveloping of current areas rather than expansion to new land area. You don't understand urban development, or if you do it is from a very 1900's view, nothing wrong with that, except its not 1900, and we have a huge influx of people coming to Toronto constantly, and land is finite. Therefore the only answer is to go UP. Im sorry you don't like it, but its coming no matter what, so either move to scarborough or north york or etobicoke, or fight, lose and be a frustrated person for the foreseeable future. Sorry mate, I kinda feel bad for you since you seem very upset about this development. If the building conforms to what is already there, ie, 20 stories right next door, I really don't see a problem. After all Duplex was built as a relief road for Yonge was it not? It was eventually going to be more than just single family dwellings.

Key word here is "probably", you don't know either, do you?

Uh read the paper lately?
The City is raising property taxes 2% - 4%, don't forget the $60 levy when you renew your licence sticker for being priviliged enough to own a car in Toronto, the 9% increase in water. The city is financially challenged. Read on.

The province is now projecting a defecit. Something about reducing spending increases to health, education, etc and delaying new spending on things like new subway lines. The province is financially challenged. Read on.

PM Harper can announce the subway line until he's blue (no pun intended) in the face. In fact he's busy "back-stopping" banks, bank rolling our boys in Afghanistan and cutting taxes, see http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081024.wmartin25/BNStory/politics/home . Canada is financially challenged. Read on.

So THE POINT IS unless the Eglinton subway gets private financial backing, IT WON'T HAPPEN. If it does, it will be completed around 2025. See the abandoned bus bays? Nothing has happened there in ages either.


See 1717 Avenue Road? see http://www.1717avenue.com/ I don't have a problem if the developers build something that size. The folks who live on Duplex between Helendale and Montgomery will have a problem with it but you don't care about them. If you are in the neighbourhood, go knock on the door of the house that is just north of the 2 houses slated for demolition and ask him what he thinks of the proposed project. Its either 447 or 449 Duplex.



Yes I do know the official plan and the zoning bylaws for this area, as that is what I have studied, still study, and practice as part of what I need to do real property appraisal. So yes, and while this is slightly out of the zoning right now, and may be reduced, it will be slight.

1717 Avenue: Its called expropriation, and that comes with fair market value compensation, meaning what that owner would get if the house sold on the open market at that exact time with a willing buyer and willing seller, the only thing is the seller is only sometimes willing in this situation, still, he or she is well compensated.

Eglinton Subway? No not a subway, a light rapid transit is what I heard was in the works. Is it not? Either way, Eglinton and yonge is a major hub and needs development here rather than at some obscure intersection such as Dufferin and Wilson. So THE POINT IS less funding required from all three levels of govt since it isn't a subway, means it is more likely to go ahead before 2025, either way, good to have people to ride it when it does get built.

So THE POINT IS unless the Eglinton subway gets private financial backing, IT WON'T HAPPEN. If it does, it will be completed around 2025. See the abandoned bus bays? Nothing has happened there in ages either.

The Eglinton Crosstown is on schedule to be completed by 2014 at the latest.

Regardless, this line is irrelevant, Orchard View & Duplex is closest to Eglinton Station...all of 300 metres. Add in the fact that there are dozens of existing towers in the vicinity and this is a perfect spot for a 20 storey development.

The crosstown has ZERO chance of being completed in 6 years. First of all, the st clair row has taken almost 6 years already to build. The st clair row is a much shorter line than the eglinton crosstown and it also required no tunnelling. And most importantly, the eg crosstown line hasnt even started construction yet. Anyone who believes that the crosstown line will be completed in the next six years is ignoring all of the aforementioned reasons and is in a serious state of denial.

Yes I do know the official plan and the zoning bylaws for this area, as that is what I have studied, still study, and practice as part of what I need to do real property appraisal. So yes, and while this is slightly out of the zoning right now, and may be reduced, it will be slight.


Yeah try about 18 floors out of zoning.

Eglinton Subway? No not a subway, a light rapid transit is what I heard was in the works. Is it not? Either way, Eglinton and yonge is a major hub and needs development here rather than at some obscure intersection such as Dufferin and Wilson. So THE POINT IS less funding required from all three levels of govt since it isn't a subway, means it is more likely to go ahead before 2025, either way, good to have people to ride it when it does get built.

Call it what you want. Less funding? Whatcha smokin' boy? :nuts:
Your subway/light rapid transit/dingo widget train thingy costs $220,000,000 per kilometer which puts the project north of $3,000,000,000 and knowing how capital projects work in this country, the price will probably double when all is said and done. I'll go on record saying this project won't have a shovel in the ground before January 2011.

What do you have against the folks who live at Dufferin and Wilson?

Couldn't have spoken it better myself. Obviously you forgot what you posted earlier calling someone and idiot or other such insult. Anyways, your ideals for the area are very passe, if the city remains suburban near subways we are hurting ourselves and the growth of the city, growth which will happen inevitably. Best to grow responsibly, ideally redeveloping of current areas rather than expansion to new land area. You don't understand urban development, or if you do it is from a very 1900's view, nothing wrong with that, except its not 1900, and we have a huge influx of people coming to Toronto constantly, and land is finite. Therefore the only answer is to go UP. Im sorry you don't like it, but its coming no matter what, :blahblah:

Hey, don't count your chickens before they hatch.


so either move to scarborough or north york or etobicoke, or fight, lose and be a frustrated person for the foreseeable future. Sorry mate, I kinda feel bad for you since you seem very upset about this development. If the building conforms to what is already there, ie, 20 stories right next door, I really don't see a problem.

Well it doesn't conform to the library and the Knowles co-op. You study urban geography so I'm sure when I read your f-up to my post you will see how wrong you are. Here's a hint, note the shadows of the library and the Knowles co-op on the houses on the north side of Helendale.


After all Duplex was built as a relief road for Yonge was it not? It was eventually going to be more than just single family dwellings.

You're making this up as you are going along aren't you?

btw did you see the exquisite paving job that was done on the parking lot and Duplex and OV last weekend? They also brought in artisans to paint the lines on the asphalt. Its truly a thing of beauty.

Honestly, your posts don't make a lot of sense, and I don't have time to respond, so believe what you will. Either way, you won't win this one, it conforms to the neighbourhood close to yonge and eg, conforms to the official plan and zoning, so you are very wrong about that. As for making stuff up? I asked a question, thats why I put a (?) Obviously you're a speed reader, and not a very good one. Try to pay attention bobby! :) 2011 lrt? Yeah I agree with that, 2 years, actually might be later than that, but I accept your backtrack from 30 years, and your apology. Hope the stress of a 20 story or so tower doesn't give you health problems or sleep problems, valium or meditation seems to work well, either path, u choose.

Honestly, your posts don't make a lot of sense, and I don't have time to respond, so believe what you will. Either way, you won't win this one, it conforms to the neighbourhood close to yonge and eg, conforms to the official plan and zoning, so you are very wrong about that. As for making stuff up? I asked a question, thats why I put a (?) Obviously you're a speed reader, and not a very good one. Try to pay attention bobby! :) 2011 lrt? Yeah I agree with that, 2 years, actually might be later than that, but I accept your backtrack from 30 years, and your apology. Hope the stress of a 20 story or so tower doesn't give you health problems or sleep problems, valium or meditation seems to work well, either path, u choose.


You are such a whining twat, you remind me of my ex. You do seem to forget that in my hood there are a lot of lawyers are willing to work pro bono to fight this project tooth and nail.

Have you knocked on the door of the chap that lives at 447 Duplex? No because you are a (insert adjective here) coward to ask him mano a mano what he thinks of this project.

Where did you get your Bachelor of Urban Studies degree?

The real question is:
WHY DO YOU WANT TO TURN MY HOOD INTO THE NEXT (insert adjective here) ST JAMESTOWN?

The real question is:
WHY DO YOU WANT TO TURN MY HOOD INTO THE NEXT (insert adjective here) ST JAMESTOWN?

Yes because anywhere with skyscrapers = St. Jamestown! :banana:

Though, two protips:

1. Its not YOUR "hood". Its the neighbourhood of many thousands of people.
2. It already bears more resemblance to Jamestown than perhaps you'd care to admit. Most area inhabitants live in the surrounding high-rises.

I can't believe how sensationalist and downright simplistic it is to equate condominium towers with a half century old complex of apartment buildings. You may as well worry that tall buildings are dangerous because they might fall over.

You are such a whining twat, you remind me of my ex. You do seem to forget that in my hood there are a lot of lawyers are willing to work pro bono to fight this project tooth and nail.

Have you knocked on the door of the chap that lives at 447 Duplex? No because you are a (insert adjective here) coward to ask him mano a mano what he thinks of this project.

Where did you get your Bachelor of Urban Studies degree?

The real question is:
WHY DO YOU WANT TO TURN MY HOOD INTO THE NEXT (insert adjective here) ST JAMESTOWN?

447--> Don't care, not looking for the opinion of only one person, looking for the best we can do for the hood.

Your hood--> Definitly not just your hood, how long have you lived there, I bet my family has been there decades longer, so not really accurate.

Whining twat? --> I followed your lead mate.

Lawyers--> You are right, but there are also tons of lawyers who can be hired by corporations, some are in my family in YOUR HOOD. Good luck with that.

Your ex--> Probably had more sense than you.

My degree--> Not your business, but if you must know, I have my H.BA in biz comm from Brock, and am studying currently for real property administration which requires us to study the OP, the focused OP for Yonge and Eg, and bylaws that go in to all this stuff. Imho, shared by many, the tower here would be fine, so long as it relates to what is already there (precedent), the OP, bylaws, etc. If this goes to the OMB, they will look at precedent and probably give it a green light.

447--> Don't care, not looking for the opinion of only one person, looking for the best we can do for the hood.

Your hood--> Definitly not just your hood, how long have you lived there, I bet my family has been there decades longer, so not really accurate.

Whining twat? --> I followed your lead mate.

Lawyers--> You are right, but there are also tons of lawyers who can be hired by corporations, some are in my family in YOUR HOOD. Good luck with that.

Your ex--> Probably had more sense than you.

My degree--> Not your business, but if you must know, I have my H.BA in biz comm from Brock, and am studying currently for real property administration which requires us to study the OP, the focused OP for Yonge and Eg, and bylaws that go in to all this stuff. Imho, shared by many, the tower here would be fine, so long as it relates to what is already there (precedent), the OP, bylaws, etc. If this goes to the OMB, they will look at precedent and probably give it a green light.

:lol:
The OMB hahahha, what would you say if I sat on the OMB?

IF i didn't know any better, I caught a nerve! hahahaha

:lol:
The OMB hahahha, what would you say if I sat on the OMB?


I'd say in that case I hope you aren't Rita McNeil! :)

Ok, MODS, I think it's time to ban 95Bob. Go into his Public Profile and view his posts. They are all mean-spirited and antagonistic. He incites people for the sake of doing it. He's a NIMBY in the worst possible way. He doesn't care about these forums. He only visits on an occasional basis. And only to see if he can stir up some more shit. Don't give him the opportunity to be insulting anymore. Just ban him.

I'll second that.

I'd say in that case I hope you aren't Rita McNeil! :)

Why is it that every time the holidays roll by, 'Eat a Big Meal' is left, right, and centre?

I actually met her once or twice and she is an uncommonly nice woman.

Ok, MODS, I think it's time to ban 95Bob. Go into his Public Profile and view his posts. They are all mean-spirited and antagonistic. He incites people for the sake of doing it. He's a NIMBY in the worst possible way. He doesn't care about these forums. He only visits on an occasional basis. And only to see if he can stir up some more shit. Don't give him the opportunity to be insulting anymore. Just ban him.

WHINE
WHINE
WHINE

You should be banned because you don't agree with my opinions.
such petty pathetic whimps you all are.
Happy Holidays and may the ghost of Christmas bless you and your families with severe stomach cramps and bad diarrhea.

See ya in February!!

Love Bob

My degree--> Not your business, but if you must know, I have my H.BA in biz comm from Brock, and am studying currently for real property administration which requires us to study the OP, the focused OP for Yonge and Eg, and bylaws that go in to all this stuff. Imho, shared by many, the tower here would be fine, so long as it relates to what is already there (precedent), the OP, bylaws, etc. If this goes to the OMB, they will look at precedent and probably give it a green light.

WOW A DEGREE FROM BROCK!!
That's hugely impressive. I just googled "Brock Nobel Prize" and guess how many results came up. Yes none. The main prerequisite for attending Brock is not having your mastercard charge being declined? whatta dork you are...

WHINE
WHINE
WHINE

You should be banned because you don't agree with my opinions.
such petty pathetic whimps you all are.
Happy Holidays and may the ghost of Christmas bless you and your families with severe stomach cramps and bad diarrhea.

See ya in February!!

Love Bob

Sorry to tell you this bob but you won't even be seeing January. A ban request has gone in.

Poor Bob. He is, to use one of his words, a "looser"! :lol:

lol. Pwned!


We're clearly not his crowd.

I decided enough was enough. I figured he was gone but he came back for some reason. The fact that he mentioned Brock, and my sister goes there also struck a nerve. No worries now though, he's gone. If anyone else needs a baning just PM me, i'll try to be swift lol.

Wow! This thread was hilarious.

Anyways this is on the market now.

http://neoncondos.com/

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