Iran has agreed to share nuclear technology with Nigeria to help it increase its generation of electricity.

A senior Nigerian foreign ministry official, Tijjani Kaura, said the technology was not intended for any military use.

The agreement was announced after a four-day meeting between Iranian and Nigerian officials in Abuja.

Nigeria is Africa's biggest petroleum producer, but poor infrastructure has resulted in severe power shortages.

President Umaru Yar'Adua has said that improving Nigeria's power supply is one of his main priorities.

Details of the deal were not announced, so it is unclear what technology Iran would provide to Nigeria.

Iran is under sanctions for defying United Nations Security Council demands to halt uranium enrichment.

It insists that its nuclear programme is peaceful and says it has a right to continue uranium enrichment.

Iran, also a major oil producer, is due to bring on stream its first nuclear energy station at Bushehr early in 2009.
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Does Nigerian government know that Iran is under santion for uranium enrichment?

questions:
where will it be located?
who will have control of it?
who will maintain it?
how big or large is this deal?

questions:

where will it be located? Most likely in Taraba State along the Benue River. Nuclear plants have to be placed along fresh bodies of water.. like a river or lake.

who will have control of it?= It's become really Taboo to physically help a nation build a nuclear plant.. though that has nothing to do with showing a nation.. step by step how to go about do it by themselves. Already China, Pakistan and North Korea have aided Nigerian scientest and engioneers working for the Naija gov. in that regard... and now it's Iran. It wont be long before the Nigerian specialist inlisted in this federal task will have the all the knowhow they need to go about successfully building the nation's first plant.

The gov. will not find a Private company that will be willing to come a build such a plant... and thus the gov. will be building it themselves, but after a few successful years of continuous operations, they'd be in better shape to get a private company to buy plant out from under them.. and I'm sure this will be their aim.

who will maintain it?= The gov. at first.. and then whatever company they sell it off to in the future.

how big or large is this deal?= There is really know way to determin such a thing at this time. It really depeneds on the type of information that'll be exchanged.



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Great News! I'm so happy Nigeria can now benefit from Nuclear Power. Hopefully these plants can solve the power shortage woes once and for all. :banana:

Iran is a peculiar partner for nuclear technology. If Nigeria wanted research reactors, or reactors for power plants, these can be readily purchased from First World countries with nuclear technology: US, UK, France, Canada, Japan, etc.

I wonder if this story 'has legs,' or if this is rumor-mongering.

Iran is a peculiar partner for nuclear technology. If Nigeria wanted research reactors, or reactors for power plants, these can be readily purchased from First World countries with nuclear technology: US, UK, France, Canada, Japan, etc.

I wonder if this story 'has legs,' or if this is rumor-mongering.
I am sorry for not placing a link. It`s culled from the BBC online news-page.

Now the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7587582.stm

It's a Legit Story there are hundreds of articles on the net.

And Nigeria is not the sort of country to seclude itself. Iran and Nigeria are economic partners as they are both members of the D8, if the Western World cannot prove any danger that Iran poses with hard facts, then we shouldn't even bring up any questions.

^^ I agree.

Iran is a peculiar partner for nuclear technology. If Nigeria wanted research reactors, or reactors for power plants, these can be readily purchased from First World countries with nuclear technology: US, UK, France, Canada, Japan, etc.

I wonder if this story 'has legs,' or if this is rumor-mongering.

And you actually truly believe that any of those nations you've mentioned would actually give Nigeria such technology? :lol: Dream on. Not in a million years.

It's a Legit Story there are hundreds of articles on the net.

And Nigeria is not the sort of country to seclude itself. Iran and Nigeria are economic partners as they are both members of the D8, if the Western World cannot prove any danger that Iran poses with hard facts, then we shouldn't even bring up any questions.The fact is that Nigeria can`t contain the consequences of having one. Even Iran nuclear reators are constructed by other nations, so Iran is still not the rightful owner of the technology behind its reactors. There`s need for transparency, if Nigeria really wants a civil nuclear technology to generate electricity. Was it not formally put forth to Pakinstan to help them with it?

There`s enough available gas reserve in Nigeria to generate electricity. Nigeria should face that, face out gas flaring and as such helping out with the environment and the global warming warnings.

The fact is that Nigeria can`t contain the consequences of having one. Even Iran nuclear reators are constructed by other nations, so Iran is still not the rightful owner of the technology behind its reactors. There`s need for transparency, if Nigeria really wants a civil nuclear technology to generate electricity. Was it not formally put forth to Pakinstan to help them with it?

There`s enough available gas reserve in Nigeria to generate electricity. Nigeria should face that, face out gas flaring and as such helping out with the environment and the global warming warnings.

Actually, I think their talks with Pakistan was more so geared toward nuclear weapons technology rather than nuclear energy. At the same time they were talking with Pakistan they were talking with North Korea over long range missile technology.

I am sorry for not placing a link. It`s culled from the BBC online news-page.

Now the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7587582.stmThanks, I saw the story on the BBC also. But news reports out of Nigeria are not always accurate (even if they're picked up by major news outlets. For instance, the last time there was a major plane crash there were wildly differing reports about casualties etc.

And you actually truly believe that any of those nations you've mentioned would actually give Nigeria such technology? :lol: Dream on. Not in a million years.Give? No. Sell? Yes. Reactors for research and reactors for power generation can be purchased, transparently.

For example, Ghana's research reactor:
http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/pub1120/CD/PDF/Issue4/CN-82-05.pdf

Here is a story on the installation of Nigeria's first research reactor:

UPDATED: 08:34, January 19, 2005
Nigeria has no ambition to become nuclear power: president
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Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjoon Tuesday welcomed the chief of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in his office, saying that the west African country is interested in atomic energy for peaceful uses, but she has no ambition to become a nuclear power.

"Our desire is to use all available sources of power for the improvement of the lives of Nigerians through the development of health facilities, effective and efficient water management, agriculture and other peaceful purposes," Obasanjo told Mohamed El-Baradei, who is in Nigeria on a two-day working visit.

The Nigerian government inaugurated its first nuclear research reactor located at the north-central city of Zaira in September last year and says that the facility, which is donated to Nigeria by the IAEA, is strictly for research in nuclear technology and "analytical services" to various sectors of the economy.

Obasanjo solicited for the assistance of the IAEA in identifying, locating, testing and checking radioactive materials,especially in view of the danger it posed when it found its way into wrong hands.

He also appealed to the UN agency to help the west African country to train its personnel in the use of atomic energy for peaceful purposes.

Earlier, El-Baradei briefed Obasanjo on the role of the agency in world affairs, stating that 250 Nigerian scientists have so farbeen trained by the IAEA in the last five years and that the IAEA had three projects in the areas of health, agriculture and water management in Nigeria.

In February last year, there was nuclear mix-up as a statement from the Nigerian Defense Ministry said the country had discussed acquiring nuclear power from Pakistan. Nigeria later clarified thestatement issued after the visit of Pakistan's chairman of the Joint Services Committee, General Muhammad Aziz Khan, was a "typographical error" and should be ignored. http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200501/19/eng20050119_171098.html

I remember those press reports about Pakistan and Nigeria having a nuclear agreement, and that's why I was suspicious of this story.

I think the real purpose of the Pakistani visit was to try and sell Nigeria the FC-1 (AKA JF-17). http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/images/fc1_02large.jpg

Very good news!

Nuclear power: FG chooses four sites in the North, three in South

By Obinna Ezeobi
Published: Friday, 7 Nov 2008

Four sites in the northern part of the country and three in the south have been selected tentatively as locations for the nuclear power stations through which the Federal Government hopes to generate electricity.

Speaking at the end of the review workshop/expert mission on the Nigerian National Nuclear Power Programme by the International Atomic Energy Agency, the Director-General, Nigeria Atomic Energy Agency, Dr. Erepamo Osaisai, explained that the sites were currently undergoing evaluation and characterisation, adding that there was the need to do further work.

Although he refused to disclose the particular towns where the nuclear facilities would be sited, Osaisai admitted that a lot of technical work needed to be done, adding that the legal framework had been developed and improved upon.

Meanwhile, a senior official of IAEA, Mr. Ian Facer, who participated in the workshop, noted that building a nuclear power programme required a three-phase approach, saying that Nigeria was in the first phase and had satisfied many of the standards for the stage.

He, however, stressed that there were some issues, which needed to be straightened out, particularly the need for efficient collaboration between relevant agencies, particularly NAEC and the Nigerian Nuclear Regulatory Agency.

This, he said, was necessary to achieve synergy in action plans and synchronise the timing of the various activities.

He also charged Nigeria to step up communication with the public and other stakeholders in order to communicate the benefits of the project as well as the concomitant risks.

He assured that IAEA would help Nigeria in its quest for electricity generation through nuclear sources, noting however, that the bulk of work would be done in Nigeria by Nigerians.

A copy of the communiqué issued at the end of the workshop noted, that “implementation of a nuclear power programme is an enormous responsibility, which requires high level of coordination with all relevant stakeholders working in tandem to achieve set national objectives. NAEC should strengthen the national coordination and implementation of the nuclear power programme by constituting a more wholesome and operational working group, involving all stakeholders at the senior management level.

“Active participation of all stakeholders in the programme implementation is the key to the success of the programme.”

The participants also charged NAEC to encourage the participation of Nigerian professionals, including those in the diaspora in the project, and if possible create appropriate institutional linkages for their effective involvement in the implementation of the nuclear energy programme.

Osaisai assured that the observed lapses in collaboration between agencies were being addressed so as to ensure that Nigeria achieved the objective of generating electricity through nuclear sources.

He said, “You cannot approximate or defer any activity in the nuclear power programme. You must identify and address them. We can address all the issues that have been raised and resolve them in a few months, at most, by the first quarter of 2009 so that we can be on the same page with the IAEA.

The director-general further explained that there were 19 milestones published by the International Atomic Energy Agency, which any country that planned to build nuclear power infrastructure must meet.

According to him, “You need to satisfy them to different degrees at various stages. Nigeria is in the preliminary stage. After the preliminary stage, which is the development of a robust nuclear power programme, you now get on to implement the infrastructure development component, which will enable you to order for a nuclear power plant. You need to have the needed infrastructure in place and the needed manpower. That is what we need to do after the first phase.

“The third phase is where you now engage contractors, vendors and start building the nuclear power plants to generate electricity.”

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What`s the cost of bearing such expensive nuclear project when the masses are still very hungry?

Nuclear Power - IAEA Gives Country Pass Mark

11 November 2008
Hamisu Muhammad


The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has commended Nigeria's preparation for the deployment of Nuclear power in the country.

A communiqué at the end of the two day review workshop and expert mission to support the introduction of the nuclear power in Nigeria, quoted an IAEA official as saying although "the programme requires some technical thinking and work, we have very strong feeling that Nigeria is moving in a good direction."

Ian Fraser, Head of the IEA delegations said IAEA has three phases approach to the introduction of the nuclear power programme. "And it is agreed by all of us that Nigeria is still in the first phase, but Nigeria has satisfied the majority of the issues of this phase, however there are few indentify outstanding issues, that need to be reached".

Fraser said it is recognised by all the stakeholders involved in the workshop, that the greatest national coordination will be required between all t institutions.

"Some of the outstanding issues we mentioned such as coordination, how much national involvement is?

How much you want to start with? How far have you communicated with the public and all stakeholders to explain the benefits and implication of the nuclear programme?"

Mr Fraser said the IAEA is confident that Nigeria can lead achieve its nuclear power programme, but it that it has a lot of work to do, adding that "the agency can assist with some of these works, however, the majority of the work must be done here in Nigeria, by Nigeria.

We look forward for further collaboration; we wish you all success in doing the work".

In his remark, the Director General of the NAEC, Dr Erepamo Osaisai said the commission is at its first stage of the project in which it identifies four suitable sites in the north and three in the southern parts of the country.


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Lots still need to be done. Nigeria is not getting nuclear power plant soon!

Interesting.I have never seen a African before in my life.What business do we have in Africa?

Nigeria should allow us to store military personel in Nigeria.Looks like the Persians are back in Africa :)

Interesting.I have never seen a African before in my life.What business do we have in Africa?

Nigeria should allow us to store military personel in Nigeria.Looks like the Persians are back in Africa :)

No matter where Iranian military tries to hide the american government will sniff you guys out. I think Africa is more safe than Iran.

No matter where Iranian military tries to hide the american government will sniff you guys out. I think Africa is more safe than Iran.

Sniff us out? What are they going to do? They have a muslim as a President.

Africa safer in Iran? In what regards.

Sniff us out? What are they going to do? They have a muslim as a President.

Africa safer in Iran? In what regards.But I did write my comment in Arabic. Sorry, if you cannot comprehend what I wrote.

But I did write my comment in Arabic. Sorry, if you cannot comprehend what I wrote.

You wrote it in English.You ok boy? :nuts:

Oh ! I didn`t know that I wrote it it English. Oh my goodness! You are as well bowling my eyes out.

Sniff us out? What are they going to do? They have a muslim as a President.America's new President is a Christian who won't let Iran threaten the world with nuclear weapons.

Africa safer in Iran? In what regards.Regarding not being bombed, as your country surely will be if your government stays on its current course.

America's new President is a Christian who won't let Iran threaten the world with nuclear weapons.

Regarding not being bombed, as your country surely will be if your government stays on its current course.

Barrack Hussein Obama is not Muslim? His name literally means "He is with us" in Persian and Hussein is one of our prophets..Ya hussein.


He will not dare bomb Iran. We will stay on course.We will not waiver in the face of aggression.

Barrack Hussein Obama is not Muslim? His name literally means "He is with us" in Persian and Hussein is one of our prophets..Ya hussein.It's just a name. He didn't pick his name, and in this country people are free to choose their own religions. Obama chose Christianity.

It's just a name. He didn't pick his name, and in this country people are free to choose their own religions. Obama chose Christianity.

Ok.Maybe you should watch this video.Hussein may change your life.

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He will not dare bomb Iran. We will stay on course.We will not waiver in the face of aggression.

it doesn't matter whether Obama is president or not. if iran is going on enriching uranium without international control, importing and developing missile technology and supporting terrorist organisations like hizbolla - the day will come the US or their allies have to attack irans key nuke facilities.

whoever wishes to have an iranian presence in field of nuclear technology in nigeria is a terrorist supporter... and it looks as if we have some here on board.

this news sound concerning and i ask myself which technology iran has to share with nigeria? luckily nigeria is in dialogue with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and paving the way to develop nucelar energy with trusted members of the international community.:)

this news story sucks...

This thread is getting insane or already insane

..imagine we got nucelar facilities in nigeria....one day a typical nigerian tragedy starting from unpayed wages to unmotivated workers leading to lax security and ending with a BIG BANG.. oh lord better no nuclear power to nigeria

Interesting.I have never seen a African before in my life.What business do we have in Africa?

Actually Iran has several economic MoU's with African states, hence Iran has a lot of business in Africa.

Nigeria should allow us to store military personel in Nigeria.Looks like the Persians are back in Africa :)

Did you post this statement just to piss off the local forumers?

No matter where Iranian military tries to hide the american government will sniff you guys out. I think Africa is more safe than Iran.

:hahaha:

What? Other than the boarder regions, two of which neighbouring states are in a state of war, the rest of Iran is secure, safe and policed. By what definition of 'safe' do you prescribe to?

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..imagine we got nucelar facilities in nigeria....one day a typical nigerian tragedy starting from unpayed wages to unmotivated workers leading to lax security and ending with a BIG BANG.. oh lord better no nuclear power to nigeria
The people in all strategic sectors (electricity, the civil service, the military and police, etc.) need to be well compensated so that labor unrest like that doesn't happen.

Anyway, the uranium won't be weapons grade so there's no risk of a nuclear explosion.

The U.S.A. is for this project? read below.



U.S., Govt Searching for Missing Nuclear, Radioactive Sources

Daily Trust (Abuja)

Hamisu Muhammad And Aisha Umar


The Nigerian Nuclear Regulatory Authority (NNRA) and the United State Embassy in Abuja are collaborating to search for nuclear and radioactive substances scattered in the country. US Ambassador to Nigeria, Robin Renee Sanders yesterday donated nuclear radiation detection equipment to the Nigerian government worth $100,000 (about N1.1billion) to search for the sources.

The Director General of the NNRA, Prof. Shams Elegba said radioactive sources are scattered everywhere in the country, especially the oil producing region, "We need to find them and bring them all under regulatory control".

Speaking at training programme for security personnel engaged to search and secure the radioactive sources, Prof. Elegba said the petroleum industry is the largest importer and user of radioactive sources in the country. "In several transactions between the oil companies and the service companies using radioactive sources, alot of undeclared personae are involved. These include those who transport the sources from the bunkers of the service company to storage pits at the facilities of the oil companies." He said there are thousands of radioactive sources for various applications in the country mainly used for nuclear well-logging, industrial radiography, nuclear gauging, radio tracing.


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Nigeria should generate 10,000MW from nuclear sources


Nigeria’s quest to generate electricity from nuclear sources should be ambitious, with the target being to generate 10,000 mega watts, the Director-General, Nigerian Nuclear Regulatory Authority, Prof. Shamsideen Elegba, said on Tuesday.

Speaking in Abuja when members of the Senate Committee on Petroleum, (Upstream) visited NNRA as part of their oversight functions, Elegba said it would make better economic sense to target 10,000MW than the original plan, which was to generate 1,000MW from nuclear sources in 10 to 12 years.

He explained that since Nigeria was planning to achieve a base load capacity of 30,000 mega watts, with hydro and thermal sources only able to contribute a limited capacity, there was the need to target a minimum capacity of 10,000MW from nuclear sources.

He said, “If we are talking of about 30,000 mega watts as the base load, when you add all the capacity that you can get from hydro, maybe you will get 10,000MW or 20,000MW.

“From gas, you could get another 10,000MW. So if you want the base load to be robust, you will not need more than one nuclear power plant.”

The DG stressed that planning to generate 10,000MW from nuclear power would bode well for meaningful business relationship and technological acquisition.

He said, “If you want to build one nuclear power plant and somebody wants to build 10, probably, the manufacturers will pay more attention to the person who wants to build 10, even though he will still have a relationship with you because he will have to be worried about the maintainace, change of fuel, spent fuel and new fuel.”

Elegba called on members of the National Assembly to support Nigeria’s nuclear power programme, because fixing the country’s acute electricity shortage was critical, without which its developmental aspirations would fail.

He further stated that while thermal power plants might operate optimally for 10 to 15 years, nuclear power plants can be operational for 50 years.

On why the agency was being supervised by the House of Representatives Committee on Petroleum Upstream, Elegba explained that the law which set up NNRA provided that it should be supervised by a ministry that does not use radioactive sources of nuclear materials.

He said, “That is the only way to guarantee the independence of the agency. NNRA had been under the Ministry of Health, and you want to close a hospital under the ministry because it violated regulations on the use of radioactive sources, the Minister can order you to stop.”

He added that the agency recently secured judgment against Shell, Western Atlas and some other oil companies because they brought in radioactive sources without approved licences, used them and lost them.

He said, “We gave them time to find it. When they could not, we had to head to the court and we asked the Attorney General to prosecute them and they were convicted.”


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I believe there is some Uranium in Nigeria, although there is more in Niger.

Nigerians should be careful with the way they handle nuclear materials cos they are very dangerous to lives and the environment.

Nigeria shouldn't even venture into Nuclear energy. If we can't power power stations with oil, gas and coal, or even Hydro, solar, wind or tidal power then we will sure fuck the Nuclear deal up. Excuse my french but I don't to read about a Nigerian Nuclear catastrophe on BBC news.

Why Nigeria must invest in nuclear power plants– Osaisai

Nuclear energy appears to hold the key to future investment prosperity. In this interview with OBINNA EZEOBI, the Director General, Nigeria Atomic Energy Agency, Dr. Erepamo Osaisai, speaks on the reasons behind Nigeria‘s foray into the world of nuclear power and why the venture makes business and economic sense

How safe is the use of nuclear power plants in the generation of electricity? Nuclear power is probably one of the safest among the energy sources you can deploy to generate electricity. For the over 11,000 reactors years (that is the total number of reactors and for how many years they have operated)- which has been for more than 50 years now, we have only had two major accidents. The first one happened in 1979 at the Trimal Island Power plant in the State of Pennsylvania, United States .

There was a human error and that led to a number of technical processes that led to the destruction of the reactor core. There was colossal capital damage of the reactor core, but no radioactivity was released to the environment. So, nobody died from it. It was just a loss of investment.

The other one was the Chernobyl accident in 1986, in the then Ukraine of the Soviet Union. And then it was because the reactor type was outmoded.

It was the graphite moderated reactor and it did not have the containment building.

And then again it was due to a human error. People were trying to run certain experiments that they should not have done. They lost control of it and there was an explosion and about 30 persons died on the spot. Since then, an additional 25 persons may have died as a result of the fall out.

Because once you have the release of radioactivity, it is transported to some other regions and could affect the food chain.

In 2004, there was an accident in one part of Japan, where there was a pipe failure.

There was a pipe burst and hot water came out and scalded about four persons to death. These kind of accidents can happen anywhere, in thermal plant, anywhere. But in terms of directly nuclear component related radioactivity exposures, there are only two known experiences. Early part of last year, there was an earthquake activity in some part of Japan, but because of the way these structures had been built, they withstood it.

So, no radioactivity was released. The safety features of nuclear power are given utmost priority in such a way that quite a number of failures you experience in other systems cannot be with nuclear power systems.

That is what you can talk about nuclear power. But when you go back, coal is used to generate about 40 per cent of global electricity and if you look at the fact that about 40 per cent of primary energy in the raw form is utilised for generating electricity and you look back at the number of accidents in the coal mines; if you also consider hydro as a source of electricity and you talk about dam failures and how communities are flooded and hundreds and thousands die; that will tell you that nuclear is quite safe. But that does not mean that we have to sit on our oars. It is a complex technology, and if it is not managed very well, it could lead to difficulties.

Because of the past experiences by way of these accidents, there has been improvements in the designs to the effect that some of these accidents cannot happen again. In fact, the probability of their reoccurring is almost zero.

What has been the experience of other countries in the use of nuclear power?

South Korea started its nuclear power programme a little over four decades ago. Their first order for a nuclear power plant was given in 1967 and the construction started in 1968.

At that time, the per capital income was about $70 per person and they only contributed sand, gravel and unskilled labour to the construction of the nuclear power plant.

In 1975, the plant was ready. By 1995, the Koreans were now able to put in about 75 per cent domestication into the nuclear power industry. In 2004/5, it was 95 per cent domestication. They do their architectural design, the engineering design, cord design, they build it, they forge the reactor core containment and so and so forth. Today, Korea generates about 40 per cent of its electricity from nuclear power plants.

France is one of the nuclear power pioneers and they generate about 80 per cent of its electricity from nuclear power plants. EDF, the electricity utility company of France, is now seeking to buy over the nuclear power plant in the United Kingdom, to generate them. And you know that the grid in Europe has been done in such a way that you can generate electricity across boundaries. It has been interconnected in a network.

Other countries, like Sweden, generate more than 50 per cent of its electricity from nuclear power plants.

What are the cost elements of building a nuclear power plant?

Building a nuclear power plant is capital intensive. This means you need to put in a huge amount of resources to get the infrastructure off the ground and get it going. But once a nuclear power plant is completed, the amount of money you put into maintaining it, fuelling it and operating it is quite small.

Over the life time of the reactor, maintenance and operating costs is just 20 per cent over the life time and it is reasonably insensitive to little increases of maintenance and operating costs because it is small element of the operating costs.

For example, if you double the price of gas that you supply to a thermal plant, that will lead to about an increase of 50 per cent of electricity tariff.

When you double the price of uranium fuel, it can only lead to a maximum of between five and seven per cent increase in tariff. That is how insensitive it is.

After between 20 and 25 years, you are just making too much money out of it. When nuclear power plants were first built in 1960s and 1970s, it was expected that the lifespan of a reactor will be about 25 years.

Now we know that they can last up to 50 to 60 years. The ones they are designing now are for 50 to 60 years. You have an investment, which after 15 years, you are able to break even, and for the rest of the period, you are raking in profits.

You also just require a little amount of uranium to power a reactor that will generate huge amount of electricity. As a country, we also have to look at our national interest. We are not generating enough electricity from gas. We had some oil fired plants but they are no longer functioning.

The coal-fired plant stopped working since the Civil War, and it was just a 15-megawatts plant at Oji River .

Are there other benefits in it over other sources of energy?

Oil and gas are wasting assets. Even if you are burning coal to generate electricity, it will get depleted over time, and we all know about the global warming, green house gases.

We have more lucrative uses of gas and oil, rather than using them to generate electricity. Besides as a country, we should not just think about our life time, but our own children and the unborn children. In doing this, you have to think about energy security. It entails being able to optimally utilise all the available energy resources. Nigeria at this point in time earns a significant amount of money selling oil, but we have to think of ploughing that back into developing other sectors- be it hydro or whatever.

How will Nigeria source the fuel for nuclear power plants?

It does not even require that we must have uranium to generate electricity from nuclear power plants because the cost of the fuel is small. All you need is being able to have the needed strategic partnerships and assurances so that there is assurance of regular fuel supply, which is the major planks of the International Atomic Energy Agency. It is a project they are embarking on to ensure that any country that has a nuclear power plant, so long as the fuel is going to be used for civilian purposes, it is not denied.

The important thing is for us to have a secure energy resource base for a long time. It is very important.

How will the waste generated from nuclear power plants be managed and disposed?

A lot of technical work has been done on that area in the past. The technical solutions for managing the spent fuel from the reactors have been known for about two decades ago.

Because effective and successful management of nuclear fuel ensures that nuclear powers will continue to be used beyond our life time and coming decades if not centuries. Nuclear wastes can be safely put in away in what is called Geological Repositories and a lot of technology has been developed in that area.

Nigeria has to tune into the existing body of knowledge and be able to utilise the developments and also ensure that within the first 10 years of a nuclear power operating, you do not need to put the fuel away. All you need to do is to ensure that they are put in storage pools within the reactors sites. For about 50 to 60 years, nuclear power plants have been generating electricity to the point that they now contribute up to 20 per cent of global electricity. They are finding an amicable, scientifically feasible solution of dealing with radioactive wastes problem. We cannot wait until that has been dealt with in totality.

Through appropriate partnerships, we will be able to deal with nuclear waste management problem.

Why will the construction of nuclear power plant take Nigeria up to 10 years?

When you start the construction of a nuclear power plant from the first concrete to when it generates electricity, it takes about five years. But in our case, we have certain peculiarities. First, we do not have the resource base. We cannot have a nuclear power plant built in this country and expect foreigners to run them for us. So, we need to have the needed manpower base to be able to implement it. You have to also look at the infrastructure base. You need to have certain infrastructure in place to be able to construct a nuclear power plant. If you are going to be bringing heavy equipment from the sea ports to the hinterlands and you have an appropriate site, where a nuclear reactor is going to be built, how do you transport it? Our rail system?

The infrastructure along the marine corridor and other things are nearly totally dilapidated. Again if you have to implement a nuclear power programme in a sustainable fashion, you need to have certain technical capacity within the country and we have to build that.

If you don‘t build it and people just come and build a nuclear power plant for us, we will be attracting for ourselves a lot more responsibilities than we can deal with. That is why we have given ourselves some time to develop the core critical manpower that is needed to develop a nuclear power programme and also be able to build the infrastructure base that can support the implementation of a nuclear power plant.

Instead of thinking about six to seven years in other climes, you are thinking about ourselves as a developing country and the most important thing is that we must do it right. Nuclear does not offer anyone a second chance. If you bungle it, you are out of it and Nigeria cannot afford to bungle it. We must do it right, even if it is slow, it simply says that it will make us meet our long term energy requirements.

In the short time, you can explore other sources, but after a while, nuclear will gradually build its capacity that it becomes a major contributor to the national grid.

How much will it cost Nigeria?

Talking about the amount of money is a bit deceptive, and it can be taken out of context.

If you are talking about what it takes to build a nuclear power plant, it could have a totally different financial configuration. But we are also talking about building the needed infrastructure base, training the manpower. If you add all to it, you get a totally different dynamics. So, we have to be cautious.

But nuclear power, throughout its lifetime, is more competitive than a large number of other energy sources. But in terms of the unit cost, that depends on a number of factors. We know that we are starting from the bottom and some of those resources will go into building the needed manpower and infrastructure base, it will be faulty to just reel out numbers or figures.

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Don Makes Case for Nuclear Power Generation

A Professor in the Division of Applied Nuclear Nuclear Science and Technology, Centre for Energy Research and Development, Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, Osun State; Prof. Francis Ibitoye has stressed the need for Nigeria to upgrade its education and training capabilities so as to enhance its nuclear power generation.

He made the call at a lecture, organised by the Centre for Applied Research and Technology Innovation ( ARTI ), Yaba College of Technology (YABATECH) in Lagos , recently
Ibitoye, who spoke on ‘Nuclear Technology and National Development’ said the country should also utilise its relevant industrial institutions and infrastructure which must meet up with new responsibilities.

A major problem usually encountered in countries embarking on a nuclear power project for the first time, he said was the lack of sufficient numbers of, and qualified technicians and craftsmen required for the safe operation and maintenance of the nuclear power plant.

“This is the more reason why Nigeria Atomic Energy Commission (NAEC) is relying on the polytechnics and vocational college to train the technicians and craftsmen needed to support Nigeria ’s nuclear program”, he said.

Ibitoye attributed the dearth of nuclear-related professionals worldwide to low enrolment of students taking nuclear-related subjects, lack of young faculty members needed for the long-term quality and vigour of any academic discipline, and for replacement of ageing and retiring ones, as well as the decline in the number of new reactors being built especially in developed world.

“Even though Nigeria is yet to exploit the full potentials of the peaceful applications of nuclear technology, the observed trend is still applicable to our country, whereby there is a decline in the number of students registering for hardcore basic science subjects in our universities and tertiary institutions, due to poor job prospect for the graduates, and admissions are now mostly for those candidates who could not secure placement for high flying disciplines such as Computer Science, Electronics and electrical Engineering, Medicine, Pharmacy and Accounting.”

Professor of Technology Planning and Development Unit of the same institution, Prof. Matthew Ilori said the country would benefit from technological entrepreneurship if there was adequate provision of infrastructural facilities that would reduce the cost of production, if it encourages patronage of locally made goods, as well as search for entrepreneurs who will commercialise the research results and inventions from researches institutes and universities, among others.

The Professor who spoke on, ‘Technology and Entrepreneurship: A Bedrock of Market Driven and Knowledge- Based Economy’, said technological entrepreneurship has been recognised as important components of technology policy and economic planning as a result of its role in fostering economic development.

Rector of (YABATECH), Mr. Olubunmi Owoso, who was represented by his Deputy, Engr. Benjamin Omokwale urged the Federal Government to learn from the top 20 economies of the world if its vision 20-20-20 was to be attained so as to become relevant in the world.

Director of ARTI, Dr. Nkem Azike stressed the need for the country to utilise appropriate technologies to meet the needs of communities through adequate research.

Nuclear technology, she said has a great implication on national development, saying that the objective of the lecture was to better understand the potentials and increase the awareness of nuclear energy, thereby encouraging staff in the Schools of Science, Technology and Engineering to pursue higher degrees in nuclear energy, as well as run nuclear energy programmes in their departments.

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Nuclear power can deliver Nigeria from electricity problems, says NNRA boss


TO achieve the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) of cutting poverty by half in 2015, all sources of energy, including nuclear power, must come to play in meeting the electricity generation requirement of Nigeria.

The Director General of Nigerian Nuclear Regulatory Authority, Mr. S. Elegba, who made this assertion in Lagos recently, ascribed it to the projection that the national electricity demand would be above 50,000 Mega Watts (50GigaWatts) by the year 2020.

Acknowledging the former president Olusegun Obasanjo's move towards nuclear power initiative, Elegba said that this was premised to the fact that it was the only viable option since national reserves of conventional sources were dwindling and the total installed capacity could hardly fulfill national energy needs and therefore could not sustain national industrial and economic development.

His words: "The sorry state of our electricity generation is summarised by the fact that Nigeria has never scaled the four GigaWatts barrier in actual power generation for a population of over 140 million. This was aptly and sadly recounted again by the Director General of the IAEA at the International Conference on Nuclear Power in France in 2005."

Elegba quoted the IAEA as saying: "Per capital electricity consumption in Nigeria is closer to 70 kilowatt-hour per annum."

This, he said, translated to an average availability of eight watts, which is less than a regular light bulb for each Nigerian citizen.

Nigeria's present electricity generation is mainly from hydro and gas/thermal. This energy mix is limited and not comparable to a country like South Africa, which generates 40,000MW of electricity for a population that is less than half of Nigeria's.

It could be recalled that President Obasanjo, in May 2006 established the Nigeria Atomic Energy Commission with the vision of operating at least one nuclear power plant within the next 10-15 years. Nigeria needs to generate at least 3,000MW or 3G by 2020.

To him, generating power from nuclear is not peculiar to Nigeria alone, noting that about 440 power reactor were currently operational in 30 countries, while 40 were making move. These reactors, according to Elegba supply about 16 per cent of the world's electricity.

"Today, 40 developing countries have expressed the desire to develop nuclear power for electricity generation including eight from Africa; namely, Nigeria, Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Ghana and South Africa and 11 from Asia."

He stressed: "The country has invested the past 30 years in developing the physical and regulatory infrastructure for safe, peaceful, applications of nuclear energy. The power application of nuclear energy must now be developed to ensure adequate and reliable electricity supplies for industrialisation and national security."

Elegba, however, proffered a leeway from energy poverty. He said: "The way forward must necessarily be a hybrid of the two extremes, where the government regulates, the private sector generates, the government transmits while the private sector distribute. This is the 1010 model.

He gave the steps that would be required as regionalising of grids, generation of electricity by both private entrepreneurs and state governments. Others are

*introduction of modular nuclear power plants by the private sector operators,

*introduction of micro nuclear power plants (30-40MW) which can be completed in three years,

*introduction of mini 400-600MW which can be completed in seven to eight years, and

*introduction of the mainframe nuclear power reactors that will require 10-15 years to complete.

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Ok! Maybe with time they will use it for arsenals.

It seems Russia will be handling this project for Nigeria.

FG Moves to Boost Nuclear Energy Application


Federal government will soon inaugurate a technical advisory committee to accelerate the pace of application of nuclear technology to electricity generation in the country.

Receiving a delegation of the Nigerian Academy of Science led by its chairman, Prof Oye Ibidapo-Obe in his office in Abuja on Wednesday, the Minister of Science and technology, Dr. Alhassan Zaku said members of the Academy would be involved in the committee as in other parastatals of the Ministry earmarked for repositioning

Dr Zaku said given the calibre of members of the Academy, the Ministry would do well to tap from its mine of wisdom in order to move science and technology forward.

The minister also said that research and development (R & D) in the ministry is now being refocused on practicalities that impact on the life of people at the grassroots.

In a statement by his spokesperson, the minister solicited the help of the Academy in offering fruitful and diligent advisory services to the Ministry, adding that efforts have to be made to make the grassroots appreciate the role of science and technology.

According to him, the country would only move forward with the broad participation of the people in science and technology development.

Responding, Prof. Ibidapo-Obe said if Nigeria is to fulfill its mandate to humanity, it needs to develop faster than it is doing by utilising science and technology as a springboard.

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They should really change the Name of this thread.:ohno:

I hope that proper regulatory framework will be put in place for safety. Now from my name and posts, people here will know that I am patriotic, so I will be happy if there is no emotive response here. We must remember that Nuclear technology separates the boys from the men. Nigeria cannot afford a Chernoby disaster and remember that Russia then was far more advanced than Nigeria now. I will not like to see any disaster. I think for now, the government should concentrate on Gas power plants.

I have be saying that here that Nigerians should go for Gas power turbines to generate electricity as they have it in abundant.

Agencies Partner On Nuclear Sites


The National Security and Civil Defense Corps (NSCDC) yesterday expressed interest to partner with the Nigeria Atomic Energy Commission (NAEC) for the protection of the proposed nuclear sites in the country.

The Deputy Commandant General of NSCDC, Evans Ewurum, discussed this with the Director General of the Commission Dr Franklin Erepamo Osaisai at the headquarters of the NAEC in Abuja yesterday.

He said the NSCDC primary responsibility is to protect infrastructures in the country, saying that he was at the commission's headquarters to seek relevant information on the activities of the commission and explore ways to partner in achieving their common objectives.

In his remark the DG NEAC, said as the nation's liaison office of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and coordinating body of Nigeria's nuclear program, the primary goal of the commission was "to develop the technical framework and harness atomic energy for the socio economic development of the country"

He said that NAEC will explore other areas which the commission can partner in other to achieve their common objective. Some of these areas include information exchange and personnel training.

The DG also briefed the delegation on the work done so far in the site selection for Nigeria's first nuclear power plant. The Site Selection Committee will continue with the second phase of the programme next week.

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Honk, since your the new mod, maybe you can finally rename this thread.

Honk, since your the new mod, maybe you can finally rename this thread.

^^GAR3TH, I've renamed the thread as NUCLEAR ENERGY FOR NIGERIA

Nuclear plants require great care. I would be very happy if Nigeria go for other alternative source of energy like the renewable ones, solar, wind,etc.

im sure nigeria is capable of maintaining a nuclear power plant if they are devoted to it. but if they are going to maintain it like the niger bridge than forget it i dont want to see nuclear power anywhere near nigeria.

im sure nigeria is capable of maintaining a nuclear power plant if they are devoted to it. but if they are going to maintain it like the niger bridge than forget it i dont want to see nuclear power anywhere near nigeria.

You have to factor in that Nigeria was highly unstable during the past 30 years with military soldiers taking turns in looting the nation’s treasury. That’s why maintenance culture wasn’t able to fester.

I think the real purpose of the Pakistani visit was to try and sell Nigeria the FC-1 (AKA JF-17). http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/images/fc1_02large.jpg


Good you guys could use it.

Good you guys could use it.Better they didn't accept Pakistani weapons deal.

Better they didn't accept Pakistani weapons deal.

Not really, that plan is a very good fighter, with a mixture of high tech Chinese and Russian technology. Cash struck Pakistan was offering it up for a much cheaper price than the planes are really worth on the world market. They offered to sell Nigeria the planes shortly after Nigeria signed a deal with the Chinese to obtain something like 15 specially upgraded J7's.

The J7 is primarily an air to air Mach 2 fighter. Though with few if any probable opponents in the nation's general theater of current probable future operation within Africa who can match Nigeria's Air Power.. the new fleet of J7 will simply just further deter likely opponent from even attempting to challenge the nation in Air to Air combat.


Pakistan took note of this situation and figured that Nigeria would want to relieve them of a significant portion of their J7 comparable JF-17's which are better designed for Air to ground combat in which Nigeria's Air Force will be most likely engaging in in their future operations over Africa.

With a high tech fleet of J7's and JF-17's.. Nigeria's Air Force would surge to become a much stronger and capable continental threat for its peace keeping and insuring operations.

JF17 is better than J-7. Anyway, even if you get that I think Pakistan does have maintenance facilities for that aircraft as well.

It took time to make this aircraft because Pakistan wants a lot from this aircraft compared to what they have to face vs. india. It might be a very good fighter for nigeria even if they go something more high tech like migs or rafale which I doubt would happen.

You can't decide for the country what would be good for them. I think their choice is something different and maybe better, NHawk.

Whose choice is better? Nigeria's?

Anyway, that was my personal take on the issue and none of us actually get to decide what NAF buys so yeah.. :D

LOL...I hope I wasn't getting on your nerves,Nhawk? I was trying to explain why is it possible for the Nigeria's to have decide on taking another direction.

Nigeria–Russia Set to Sign Nuclear Deal

06.20.2009

Nigeria and Russia are to sign a nuclear energy cooperation accord next Wednesday when President Dmitry Medvedev becomes the first Kremlin leader to visit Nigeria, officials said.

A joint venture between Russian oil and gas giant Gasprom and Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) will also be signed during the one day visit, Nigerian presidential spokesman Olusegun Adeniyi said, hailing what he called a "historic" visit by Medvedev.

"It will be the first ever visit by the head of state of the Russian Federation to Nigeria," said Adeniyi.

Adeniyi said the nuclear agreement "is for cooperation in the peaceful use of nuclear energy especially for the purpose of electricity."

Russia and Nigeria signed an agreement on March 18 this year to cooperate in building nuclear reactors in the West African country and jointly explore for uranium.

The protocol "foresees the possibility of bilateral cooperation for the development of Nigeria's nuclear infrastructure" and the "joint exploration and exploitation of uranium deposits," Russia's nuclear energy agency Rosatom said.

Nigeria believes there is "much to gain from closer ties with Russia given its oil and gas industry," the spokesman said.

Russia's envoy to Nigeria, Alexander Polyakov, said Medvedev was invited by President Umaru Yar'Adua following talks on the sidelines of the Group of Eight (G8) industrialised powers in Japan last year.

Polyakov said "international issues would be on the agenda but primarily, the visit would be about bilateral cooperation. We would like to give a very strong political impetus to our interraction in different fields.

"First of all in the area of economy and investment awe would aim to bring the Russian /Nigerian partnership to a completely new level. Maybe it can be in strategic partnership," he said.

Polyakov said Gasprom chief executive Alexei Miller was expected to accompany Medvedev on the one-day visit.

"Other potential areas of cooperation will also be discussed, including military and technical cooperation," said the diplomat, who added that there was already "huge" and growing cooperation between the two countries.
Polyakov quoted Nigerian statistics as saying that the volume of bilateral trade went past 1.5 billion dollars last year and was still rising this year despite the economic crisis.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh!

Good news...

Its better Nigeria and Nigerians wake up to be a strong powerhouse for itself and stop all this follow follow of British and Americans..

Russia! Why didn't Nigerian govt. involve U.S or Britain in this programme?

Africa: Medvedev to Visit Country, Three Others to Boost African Energy Deals

THIS DAY
Abimbola Akosile With Agency Reports
23 June 2009

Lagos — Russian President, Dmitry Medvedev, is billed to commence a four-nation tour to Nigeria and three other African nations today; in a bid to boost Russia's global influence and vie with China and the U.S. for control of energy and resources. The four African countries are Egypt, Nigeria, Angola and Namibia.

According to a Bloomberg report, Medvedev is expected to sign an agreement with Nigeria to allow commercial deals in the nuclear industry between the two countries. Russia is also said to be mainly interested in participating in Nigeria's uranium industry.

The Russian president, who will visit Egypt first before Nigeria, is to be accompanied by Energy Minister, Sergei Shmatko; chief executive officer of Rosatom Corp., Sergei Kiriyenko; and CEO of Russia's diamond monopoly ZAO Alrosa, Sergei Vybornov.

Medvedev's trip, the first to Africa by a Russian head of state in more than three years, comes amid diplomatic offensive that saw the president host three summits in three days last week, including the first meeting of leaders from the so-called BRIC countries.

His visit to Nigeria, Namibia and Angola are the first by a post-Soviet Russian Head of State. Medvedev's predecessor Vladimir Putin, now prime minister, visited Egypt as president in 2005. One year later, Putin travelled to South Africa.

Energy is likely to dominate Medvedev's visits to Egypt, Nigeria and Angola, as Russia, the world's largest energy supplier, seeks allies among other producers. Companies including OAO Gazprom, OAO Rosneft, OAO Lukoil and OAO Novatek either have active projects in the three countries or seek to break into these markets, according to the Economy Ministry.

Rosneft, Russia's largest oil company, seeks to expand in Africa and will pursue joint projects with Italy's Eni SpA, Chief Executive Officer Sergei Bogdanchikov said on June 19.

"We have seriously overlooked Africa", said Alexei Vasiliev, director of the Institute for African Studies, part of the Russian Academy of Sciences. "Nigeria's trade with Russia is about $300 million a year, compared with $40 billion with the U.S. and $11 billion with China, he said.

Angola currently holds the OPEC presidency, while another member of the cartel, Nigeria, is Africa's biggest oil producer, with reserves of more than 30 billion barrels. Russia, which is not an OPEC member, was the world's largest oil producer in April after Saudi Arabia cut output in line with a cartel decision, according to Bloomberg data.

Russia, Egypt and Nigeria are members of the Gas Exporting Countries Forum, an organisation set up by 15 states to coordinate forecasts, investments and relations with consumers to defend their market interests amid volatile energy prices.

Nigeria in April selected 15 companies, including Gazprom, to participate in its natural-gas development plan aimed at satisfying local and foreign demand. Nigeria, which has the world's seventh-largest gas reserves at 187 trillion cubic feet, plans to spend $30 billion building domestic processing and transmission facilities to send gas across the Sahara Desert by pipeline to Europe.Novatek, Russia's second-biggest gas producer, has exploration rights for an offshore gas field in Alarish in Egypt and said in May it would start drilling in the first quarter of next year.

Kiriyenko will accompany the president to Egypt and Nigeria, the first two stops on his tour. "We plan to take part in the tender for constructing nuclear reactors in Egypt," Sergei Novikov, a Rosatom spokesman, said.

Russia and Egypt signed an accord on nuclear power cooperation in March that allowed Russian companies to bid for reactor construction contracts.

Alrosa's Vybornov will accompany Medvedev to Namibia and Angola, the last two stops on his trip. In Angola, where it has operated since 1990, Alrosa has stakes in two joint mining ventures, Catoca and LUO-Camatchia-Camagico, and has said it will explore for diamonds, oil and gas as well as build hydropower plants.

Given the global crisis, "the company plans to focus on existing projects, such as Catoca," Alrosa spokesman Andrei Polyakov said.In five years' time, competition will make African markets almost inaccessible for Russian companies, Vasiliev said.

The continent is becoming "the key region" for the world's largest consumers of mineral resources, including China and the U.S., according to Alrosa's Vybornov. China has been bolstering its presence in Africa 10-fold each year, he said. "Russia also wants to stall the relentless march of China across Africa," UralSib's Weafer said. "It will be a tough task."

Medvedev will meet his U.S. counterpart Barack Obama in Moscow next month before attending the Group of Eight summit in Italy.

It's ok!

Russia, Nigeria sign gas, space cooperation agreements

RIA Novosti
24 June 2009

Russia and Nigeria signed six agreements on cooperation, including in the natural gas and space spheres, following talks between the two countries' presidents, Dmitry Medvedev and Umaru Yar'Adua, on Wednesday.

Russian energy giant Gazprom and the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) agreed to set up a joint venture, and deals on capital investment protection, extradition, and nuclear power were signed.

Vladimir Ilyanin, managing director at Gazprom Nigeria, said earlier the Russian gas monopoly could invest some $2.5 billion in the joint venture.

Nigeria is the second stop on Medvedev's African tour, following a trip to Egypt.Russia is Nigeria's tenth largest trade partner, with trade of around $300 million per year.

The nuclear deal will allow Russia to take part in tenders for the construction of nuclear reactors in Nigeria.

Nigeria, which has recoverable uranium reserves, plans to build its first nuclear power plant in 2017, with generation capacity of between 1-4 GW.

Nigeria is rich in natural resources, including tin, columbite, iron ore and coal. It has 35 billion barrels of explored oil reserves and 4.1 trillion cubic meters of natural gas. The country is ranked among the world's top 10 crude exporters, and started exporting liquefied natural gas (LNG) in 1999.

Russia! Why didn't Nigerian govt. involve U.S or Britain in this programme?

Are you not tired of being controlled ?

Nigerians needs to stand on its own and only Russia can create that chance, those you mention just want to use ur resources and then discriminate againts u.

will the first nuclear power plant start construction in 2017 or will be complete by 2017?

Are you not tired of being controlled ?

Nigerians needs to stand on its own and only Russia can create that chance, those you mention just want to use ur resources and then discriminate againts u.Russia! can create chance!? Are you serious about that? See that country's records!

will the first nuclear power plant start construction in 2017 or will be complete by 2017?

Completed by 2017 it means.

Russia! can create chance!? Are you serious about that? See that country's records!

And which country's record is good ?

I bet Russia can....you see India and Iran today all have there nuclear power/plants.

Russian tech is still not highly on the advanced side of things! 2017 nuclear power plant will commence and the Gas in return would have long be utilized leaving the nation with nothing to rely on for the future.

Russian tech is still not highly on the advanced side of things! .

You are funny....Russia tech is not highly on the advanced side ?

They are the best in technology...believe me brother.

If you dont see their stuffs in market.....is all politics

Ok! You are very enthusiastic about Russians' but, not in U.S!

I am waiting to see more images of Nigerian power plant and the proposed Nuclear power plant if possible.

Update,please.

and the proposed Nuclear power plant if possible.
.

Best option.

Best option.Why are you so much enthusiastic about Nigeria having nuclear plant?
Managing nuclear power plant is not an easy task, you know.

who cares how hard it is i just want a stable power supply.

Why are you so much enthusiastic about Nigeria having nuclear plant?
Managing nuclear power plant is not an easy task, you know.

Your funny, so in 140million with billions of oil being sold, we cant manage just a nuclear plant in Nigeria...is that not shameful ?

who cares how hard it is i just want a stable power supply.

Thank you my guy, what a funny stuff Nigeria cant manage a Nuclear plant..so what can Nigeria manage when they cant even manage their own airline ..Bagames pula!!!

Well is up to you guys but it is beyond fund. It require advanced expertises and good security. I hope the govt. can provide those as Niger-delta crisis lingers.

Well is up to you guys but it is beyond fund. It require advanced expertises and good security. I hope the govt. can provide those as Niger-delta crisis lingers.

I understand u friend, but dont u think we need this at all cost ?

It would be better to invest in wind,wave or solar energy than nuclear.

nigeria needs every source of electricity they can get right now.

It would be better to invest in wind,wave or solar energy than nuclear.

Ur funny, even countries like Spain, Sweden are now diverting to Nuclear power cus they said its more cheaper and will be the best option due to increase in population in coming yrs.

All this wave and bla bla bla is just a waste of money.

I don't think so. Spain is more advanced than Nigeria to handle the implication of nuclear plant problem.

Ur funny, even countries like Spain, Sweden are now diverting to Nuclear power cus they said its more cheaper and will be the best option due to increase in population in coming yrs.

All this wave and bla bla bla is just a waste of money.


I don’t think it’s quite true that Spain is “now diverting to Nuclear power …”. The Spaniards are among the world’s top-ten wind-power countries. I believe they are second or third to the United States and only because they are a much smaller country than we are. Nigeria has much potential in this regard particularly the northern region. It perplexes me that the country would overlook the free sources of power at its disposal for a much more technologically challenging Nuke.

BTW, nukes are not at all cheaper to build and run than other types of power plants particularly when you consider expenses for security, disposal and storage of spent fuel.

I am not aware of any proposed Nuke in Nigeria. However, if it’s true, it will be another grandstanding proposal from the prodigally wasteful government of Nigeria. Here is a government that can’t provide clean water or reliable electricity for its citizens after 40 years of prodigious oil revenue talking about building Nukes.

To demonstrate how messed up the Nigerian government is on the issue of power generation, consider this recent event: the government bought numerous gas turbines from abroad to power generators on different sites in the country. But the turbines have been sitting idle for months in the port of Lagos because the roads leading to their destinations couldn’t support them.

This one is even better:
My understanding is that about $10b was invested in power production under former president Obasanyo’s administration, yet Nigeria doesn’t have much to show for it. What happened to all the money?

How about this one:
In 1979, then-military-ruler Obasanyo initiated the Ikere Gorge Dam project. Construction work started in 1982/3 under his civilian successor but was never completed. The dam, the forth (that’s right, 4th) largest in the world, would have produced 3700MW of electricity if it was completed. The Nigerian government spent $millions to purchase hydroelectricity equipment for the dam which were left to rust uncrated. As far a know, the project was never completed.

This comedy just doesn’t stop.

The Nigerian government can’t even run its universities well. Due to governmental apathy, the science and technology graduates coming out of that country’s universities in recent times are unemployable because they don’t have useable skills. Where will Nigeria find the skilled people to run the plant(s)?

What this is folks -- if it’s true Nigeria is proposing a nuke -- is an avenue for government officials to siphon money from public works project. It’s the classic modus operandi of government officials in Nigeria: run a big project, embezzle a fortune. That Nuke will never be built, but many government officials will get very rich off the project.

I am not aware of any proposed Nuke in Nigeria. However, if it’s true, it will be another grandstanding proposal from the prodigally wasteful government of Nigeria. Here is a government that can’t provide clean water or reliable electricity for its citizens after 40 years of prodigious oil revenue talking about building Nukes.

To demonstrate how messed up the Nigerian government is on the issue of power generation, consider this recent event: the government bought numerous gas turbines from abroad to power generators on different sites in the country. But the turbines have been sitting idle for months in the port of Lagos because the roads leading to their destinations couldn’t support them.

This one is even better:
My understanding is that about $10b was invested in power production under former president Obasanyo’s administration, yet Nigeria doesn’t have much to show for it. What happened to all the money?

How about this one:
In 1979, then-military-ruler Obasanyo initiated the Ikere Gorge Dam project. Construction work started in 1982/3 under his civilian successor but was never completed. The dam, the forth (that’s right, 4th) largest in the world, would have produced 3700MW of electricity if it was completed. The Nigerian government spent $millions to purchase hydroelectricity equipment for the dam which were left to rust uncrated. As far a know, the project was never completed.

This comedy just doesn’t stop.

The Nigerian government can’t even run its universities well. Due to governmental apathy, the science and technology graduates coming out of that country’s universities in recent times are unemployable because they don’t have useable skills. Where will Nigeria find the skilled people to run the plant(s)?

What this is folks -- if it’s true Nigeria is proposing a nuke -- is an avenue for government officials to siphon money from public works project. It’s the classic modus operandi of government officials in Nigeria: run a big project, embezzle a fortune. That Nuke will never be built, but many government officials will get very rich off the project.

if nigeria was serious about producing enough energy they wouldnt have abandoned it. is there any plan to revive this project?

... is there any plan to revive this project?

I don’t know what they plan to do with it. My dad’s friend left Nigerian exasperated over that project. I visited Lagos last year and this is what I learned.

I was also informed that almost every state in Nigeria has a dam, particularly in the northern half of the country. Is that true? That makes it even more perplexing that the government would be thinking nukes at this junction.

i doubt that every state has a dam

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

It's a concrete plan. The Russians are getting gas in return. There are chances it will be built.

It's a concrete plan. The Russians are getting gas in return. There are chances it will be built.


That makes no sense (not you, but the deal). Russia sits on over a quarter of the world's gas reserves, but their lack of advanced exploration and drilling technology, coupled with bad management is precipitating a decline in their gas production. Didn't they recently hike gas prices for Western Europe and the former Soviet countries?

Now I get it: this is a case of the blind leading the blind.

How do you spell Chernobyl?

I agree with you to some extent. The idea was that the Russians can monopolize the supply of gas to Europe. You know what that means, a thing of power struggle. Th gas pipeline through the desert will commence next year.

I agree with you to some extent. The idea was that the Russians can monopolize the supply of gas to Europe. You know what that means, a thing of power struggle. Th gas pipeline through the desert will commence next year.


I can’t discount geopolitics from this deal, but it’s a curious development for the Russians to be interested in consuming Nigerian gas, given the mindboggling reserves in their country.

Admittedly, much of the Russian reserve is located in inhospitable fields of Siberia that require substantial investments to develop. Add to that huge internal consumption in Russia and the fact that the Russian government practically gives away gas to its citizens (vestiges of communism, I guess), and derives pittance revenue from it. It is conceivable then that the Russians simply have no money to exploit their own reserve. So, they supply the nuke technology in return for gas and Nigeria funds construction.

Nigeria is the only country I know that gets screwed in one hole and then turns the other hole begging to be screwed again.

Here is what I think and hope will happen: The West (and perhaps with complicity of the Russians themselves) will do everything to sabotage that plant from being operational. I know that may sound like the industrialized world suppressing progress in a developing country. Some may even see a racial angle to this. But based on the record of incompetence of the Nigerian government, I don’t think the world needs another major disaster.

The Nigerian government can’t even prevent guns from walking out of army barracks into the hands of armed robbers. What makes one think that it can prevent radioactive material from falling into the hands of terrorists?

But it goes back to what I said earlier: That nuke will never be built. If construction has started, it will never be completed, but many Nigerian officials will embezzle enough to feed the whole nation for a year.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

There are other better alternatives which are more sustainable.

I can’t discount geopolitics from this deal, but it’s a curious development for the Russians to be interested in consuming Nigerian gas, given the mindboggling reserves in their country.

Admittedly, much of the Russian reserve is located in inhospitable fields of Siberia that require substantial investments to develop. Add to that huge internal consumption in Russia and the fact that the Russian government practically gives away gas to its citizens (vestiges of communism, I guess), and derives pittance revenue from it. It is conceivable then that the Russians simply have no money to exploit their own reserve. So, they supply the nuke technology in return for gas and Nigeria funds construction.

Nigeria is the only country I know that gets screwed in one hole and then turns the other hole begging to be screwed again.

Here is what I think and hope will happen: The West (and perhaps with complicity of the Russians themselves) will do everything to sabotage that plant from being operational. I know that may sound like the industrialized world suppressing progress in a developing country. Some may even see a racial angle to this. But based on the record of incompetence of the Nigerian government, I don’t think the world needs another major disaster.

The Nigerian government can’t even prevent guns from walking out of army barracks into the hands of armed robbers. What makes one think that it can prevent radioactive material from falling into the hands of terrorists?

But it goes back to what I said earlier: That nuke will never be built. If construction has started, it will never be completed, but many Nigerian officials will embezzle enough to feed the whole nation for a year.

Are you alright? Can you proffer solutions instead of going on a bashing tirade, we’re all Nigerian here, we hear enough of the rhetoric you’re spewing we don’t want to come on this site to hear more of the same.

Moreover, when you spoke of Nigeria’s 40 years of oil supply, you forgot to mention the Civil War, 35 years of military dictatorship, ethnic clashes and religious riots.

When you try and present things from one perspective by omitting certain key facts, it makes you come off as disingenuous.

Don't agitate the issue. He sees it from another perspective and it shouldn't be taken on the ground of contention. There is some fact to that,the Nigerian govt. has to use the oil for the benefit of the ordinary people. It is sad to hear the truth somehow sometime but this is the very truth, be it spewed as you said or just being told in the right way --there's lot to blame on the nation. I think everybody here is matured enough to accept reasonable arguement,which I think Cardozoh comment really stands for. C'mon guys.

Are you alright? Can you proffer solutions instead of going on a bashing tirade, we’re all Nigerian here, we hear enough of the rhetoric you’re spewing we don’t want to come on this site to hear more of the same.

Moreover, when you spoke of Nigeria’s 40 years of oil supply, you forgot to mention the Civil War, 35 years of military dictatorship, ethnic clashes and religious riots.

When you try and present things from one perspective by omitting certain key facts, it makes you come off as disingenuous.
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I disagree with the sheers icon.

I disagree with the sheers icon.
And I disagree with your disagreement. :lol:

And I disagree with your disagreement. :lol:Meaning what?

Nuclear energy is still on the infantile stage of development. I wish Nigeria should wait until it safer to use it in underdeveloped nations.

Nuclear energy is still on the infantile stage of development. I wish Nigeria should wait until it safer to use it in underdeveloped nations.

Where do you come from?

Moreover, when you spoke of Nigeria’s 40 years of oil supply, you forgot to mention the Civil War, 35 years of military dictatorship, ethnic clashes and religious riots.



You can make all the excuses you want for your country’s inability to produce power for its citizens; meanwhile, little Ghana will supply you with electricity.

You can make all the excuses you want for your country’s inability to produce power for its industries; meanwhile, Ghana lures major international companies to its shores with guaranteed electricity supply.

You can make all the excuses you want for your country’s inability to produce power for its citizens; meanwhile, Nigeria is bustling with 160 (one six zero) dams, which could have been used to produce electricity (a few produce electricity, but in many cases, their output have been erratic).

You can make all the excuses you want for your country’s inability to produce power for its citizens while nature has blessed Nigeria with abundant, year-round sunshine and many hours of it per day. Ever wonder what you could do with it?

You can make all the excuses you want for your country’s inability to produce power for its citizens while nature has blessed Nigeria with abundant wind in certain corridors of the country. Ever wonder what you could do with it?

You can make all the excuses you want for your country’s inability to produce enough food for its citizens as long as you acknowledge that Nigeria has the potential to be Africa’s bread basket with its fertile land and abundant rainfall, but everyone in government seems to be drunk on the easy money provided by petroleum. So, Nigeria spends over $3.5b/yr on food imports because the country’s leaders considers agriculture to be of second tier importance to oil

Do you know the potential your country holds in producing salt? Yet, Nigeria imports salt for its petroleum industry, food and other industrial consumption despite large deposits of brine, saline and rock salt?

Very few countries on this planet have the abundant natural resources Nigeria has…I mean, there’s water, water, water everywhere, yet the Nigerian government can’t provide clean water for its citizens.

Oh, it’s because we fought a civil war...oh, it’s because we’ve had military rule for so long…oh, it’s because we have ethnic clashes…oh, it’s because of this or that. Didn’t Ghana experience stints of military rule in the 70s and 80s? Didn’t Angola fight a civil war? Heck, Angola had to shed its blood to gain independence from Portugal.

India was in the same economic situation Nigeria was 50 years ago, but no Westerner would laugh at India today. They have proven their mettle in science and technology. Soon, India’s Tata Industries will be exporting automobiles to Nigeria.

I’ve worked with many Indian immigrants in the US and I’ve never heard them make the type of excuses you made for Nigeria’s inadequacies, despite the fact that they have ethic and religious tensions in India, too. India even has to deal with an unfriendly Pakistani neighbor that harbors extremist who would like nothing more than to destroy India.

If Nigeria had used oil money to develop its agricultural and industrial base since it started earning petroleum income in the sixties, the country’s GDP, by some estimate, would have topped $650b by now.

How much money has Nigeria wasted over the last 35 years flaring gas that could have been captured for revenue? For the record, Nigeria throws away 2.5b std cu ft of natural gas a day, which amounts to about $8.5-10m/day revenue loss. If captured for liquefaction, it would have placed Nigeria as the 4th largest producer of LNG in the world.

How do you explain to a foreigner that 40 years after then-military-president Gowon ordered a stop to gas flaring, Nigeria still accounts for 12.5% of the world's gas flaring…or that 10 years after Mr. Obasanyo came to power and ordered a stoppage to gas flaring, nothing has changed?

How do you explain to a foreigner that after 40 years of prodigious oil revenue, Nigeria still imports refined petroleum for internal consumption? It shouldn’t have to take US Secretary of State Clinton to admonish the Nigerian government that it is simply bad management to be importing refined petroleum when you are the 8th largest oil producer in the world.

No worries, though. The Nigerian government would rather waste money on projects like nuclear power to fulfil its delusions of grandeur than spend the money to provide basic amenities for its citizens. In 2007, the Nigerian government spent $325m to launch its first ComSat only to shut it down after just 18 months in orbit because of...guess what...power failure! How ironic.

“Nigeria exported its power problem into outer space” was the joke making the internet rounds last November.

I made a business trip to Ghana and Lagos last year. The Ghanaian officials we talked with were incredulous at how endowed with natural resources Nigeria is and how Nigeria wastes its chances of becoming a major economic force around the globe. Their refrain was always “If we had only half of what they have...”

I don’t think you’ve fully grasped the potential your country holds in its hands.

Cardozoh,

What exactly do you hope to achieve on the Nigerian forum? You want to teach Nigerians how to run their country? From your posts I gather that you are not a Nigerian and you find the posts here boring. So why do stay and keep getting into arguments with the Nigerian forumers? Make your point and leave it at that.

I am not a Nigerian and I have been visiting this site frequently for over 3 years and I have never felt the need to educate Nigerians on how to run their country or tell how much better my country is. I think you are out of line.

You have already said you find the projects here boring. Kindly go somewhere where the projects are more interesting, may I suggest the Dubai forum!!

You can make all the excuses you want for your country’s inability to produce power for its citizens; meanwhile, little Ghana will supply you with electricity.

Ghana doesn’t produce enough electricity to supply Nigeria, Nigeria’s current needs exceeds Ghana’s overall production.


You can make all the excuses you want for your country’s inability to produce power for its industries; meanwhile, Ghana lures major international companies to its shores with guaranteed electricity supply.

Nigeria receives most of Africa’s Foreign Direct Investment, not Ghana, by comparison, despite all the positive mantra, Ghana receives very little in way of investments.

You can make all the excuses you want for your country’s inability to produce power for its citizens; meanwhile, Nigeria is bustling with 160 (one six zero) dams, which could have been used to produce electricity (a few produce electricity, but in many cases, their output have been erratic).

The planning was never there because of the constant breaks in leadership.

You can make all the excuses you want for your country’s inability to produce power for its citizens while nature has blessed Nigeria with abundant, year-round sunshine and many hours of it per day. Ever wonder what you could do with it?

It’s partially realisable today, under democratic rule, but it’s hardly a solution for Nigeria’s current power issue, given the costs for solar power.

You can make all the excuses you want for your country’s inability to produce power for its citizens while nature has blessed Nigeria with abundant wind in certain corridors of the country. Ever wonder what you could do with it?

You’re a strange individual.

You can make all the excuses you want for your country’s inability to produce enough food for its citizens as long as you acknowledge that Nigeria has the potential to be Africa’s bread basket with its fertile land and abundant rainfall, but everyone in government seems to be drunk on the easy money provided by petroleum. So, Nigeria spends over $3.5b/yr on food imports because the country’s leaders considers agriculture to be of second tier importance to oil

Could you give me a link that supports your assertion on food imports?

There are many countries in Africa that could effectively be the bread basket for the continent.

Do you know the potential your country holds in producing salt? Yet, Nigeria imports salt for its petroleum industry, food and other industrial consumption despite large deposits of brine, saline and rock salt?

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Very few countries on this planet have the abundant natural resources Nigeria has…I mean, there’s water, water, water everywhere, yet the Nigerian government can’t provide clean water for its citizens.

Yes because it must be cleaned in order to be made drinkable, this requires infrastructure.

Oh, it’s because we fought a civil war...oh, it’s because we’ve had military rule for so long…oh, it’s because we have ethnic clashes…oh, it’s because of this or that. Didn’t Ghana experience stints of military rule in the 70s and 80s? Didn’t Angola fight a civil war? Heck, Angola had to shed its blood to gain independence from Portugal.

Ghana hasn’t had as many breaks in leadership as Nigeria has. Moreover, Nigeria is doing better than Ghana economically.

Yes, Angola had a civil war which ended in 2002 – 3.

India was in the same economic situation Nigeria was 50 years ago, but no Westerner would laugh at India today. They have proven their mettle in science and technology. Soon, India’s Tata Industries will be exporting automobiles to Nigeria.

Nigeria is doing better than India economically; India has a higher HDI score because of the development gap, but that’s it.

I’ve worked with many Indian immigrants in the US and I’ve never heard them make the type of excuses you made for Nigeria’s inadequacies, despite the fact that they have ethic and religious tensions in India, too. India even has to deal with an unfriendly Pakistani neighbor that harbors extremist who would like nothing more than to destroy India.

Well I’m not Indian, we weren’t all made alike, I thought this would be evident to you by our obvious ocular differences.

If Nigeria had used oil money to develop its agricultural and industrial base since it started earning petroleum income in the sixties, the country’s GDP, by some estimate, would have topped $650b by now.

That’s conjecture, moreover Nigeria was originally an agricultural country circumstances beyond our control now have since changed that.

How much money has Nigeria wasted over the last 35 years flaring gas that could have been captured for revenue? For the record, Nigeria throws away 2.5b std cu ft of natural gas a day, which amounts to about $8.5-10m/day revenue loss. If captured for liquefaction, it would have placed Nigeria as the 4th largest producer of LNG in the world.

During military dictatorship, I’d imagine primary emphasis was on collecting funds rather than maximising profits, this is evident by the crass actions witnessed by our past military rulers.

How do you explain to a foreigner that 40 years after then-military-president Gowon ordered a stop to gas flaring, Nigeria still accounts for 12.5% of the world's gas flaring…or that 10 years after Mr. Obasanyo came to power and ordered a stoppage to gas flaring, nothing has changed?

There’s no correlation between Gowan’s actions and the time leading up to Obasanjo, this is because of the numerous regime changes witnessed between these two periods. Moreover gas-flaring has dropped since Obasanjo came to power in 1998-99.

How do you explain to a foreigner that after 40 years of prodigious oil revenue, Nigeria still imports refined petroleum for internal consumption? It shouldn’t have to take US Secretary of State Clinton to admonish the Nigerian government that it is simply bad management to be importing refined petroleum when you are the 8th largest oil producer in the world.

You speak on Nigeria’s government as if it was one continuous life cycle from 1960 up and till now, which isn’t the case. During that 40 year period, Nigeria witnessed numerous breaks in leadership, ushering in new heads of state along with their policies which were never intended to be implemented but were rather crutches deployed to hold on to power for as long as possible.

No worries, though. The Nigerian government would rather waste money on projects like nuclear power to fulfil its delusions of grandeur than spend the money to provide basic amenities for its citizens. In 2007, the Nigerian government spent $325m to launch its first ComSat only to shut it down after just 18 months in orbit because of...guess what...power failure! How ironic.

Nigeria’s first SAT is working fine, it was the second SAT that suffered technical difficulties. China recently agreed to rectify the problem by building a new SAT at no additional cost. Nigeria is also working on a third SAT, moreover the current projected revenue from Nigeria’s SATs hovers around the $4 Billion Per Annum mark.

“Nigeria exported its power problem into outer space” was the joke making the internet rounds last November.

Is this an attempt at humour?

I made a business trip to Ghana and Lagos last year. The Ghanaian officials we talked with were incredulous at how endowed with natural resources Nigeria is and how Nigeria wastes its chances of becoming a major economic force around the globe. Their refrain was always “If we had only half of what they have...”

Okay, I don’t know what you’re getting at here. Are you implying that Ghanaians are somehow superior to Nigerians? I don’t know, maybe you should leave this subject area alone.

I don’t think you’ve fully grasped the potential your country holds in it’s hands.

Oh please don’t patronise me.

Where do you come from?Where do you come from?
Where do I come from is that your arguement? Jeez!!! Eve managing plants in places like China, India, Pakistance are among major challenges. The disposing off the radioactive waste is a major challenge to those countries. Why would country like Nigeria with little or no expertise,uncontrolled society,bunch of corrupt leaders want to engage in Nuclear power plant when the gas deposit is abundant(It is more safe though likely a good pollutant yet exist in many developed countries). Meanwhile, the radioactive waste that was once deposited in one of Nigeria states is still posing a threat till today.The inability of some Nigerians to look into detail the consequences this Nuclear plant in the long run is surprising to me here. Before undertaking this process of Nuclear power plants, not based on what IAEA thinks(which will agree with any country based on their political preferences), there are areas that must be addressed like, does this country really needs it because it's a sign of power or want to use it for electricity is enough reason,Does it worth having Nuclear plants when radioactive waste is an issue, how is the state of security of plants(how safe), how much is the potentials compare to gas(which Nigeria has in abundant),etc. Even developed countries do grapple with their plants regularly, sometimes they are shutdown for many reasons. Comeon, I don't think popping up a words like where do you come from? is the arguement but how much having a Nuclear power plant means. I hope Nigerians see beyond the tip yet, it's up to the country to decide.

its not like if nigeria has a nuclear power plant its bound to explode. they will get experts to run the plant not just some guy they find off the street. :nuts:

its not like if nigeria has a nuclear power plant its bound to explode. they will get experts to run the plant not just some guy they find off the street. :nuts:

Exactly, when these individuals make these silly rationalisations, they’re nothing more than an attack on Nigerian People as a whole, labelling us all as defective, deficient and incompetent People.

If I’m not mistaken I thought it was us (Nigerians) that are the model minorities in the Western World.

So unless this guys Nigerian, I think he should humble himself.

Where do I come from is that your arguement? Jeez!!! Eve managing plants in places like China, India, Pakistance are among major challenges. The disposing off the radioactive waste is a major challenge to those countries. Why would country like Nigeria with little or no expertise,uncontrolled society,bunch of corrupt leaders want to engage in Nuclear power plant when the gas deposit is abundant(It is more safe though likely a good pollutant yet exist in many developed countries). Meanwhile, the radioactive waste that was once deposited in one of Nigeria states is still posing a threat till today.The inability of some Nigerians to look into detail the consequences this Nuclear plant in the long run is surprising to me here. Before undertaking this process of Nuclear power plants, not based on what IAEA thinks(which will agree with any country based on their political preferences), there are areas that must be addressed like, does this country really needs it because it's a sign of power or want to use it for electricity is enough reason,Does it worth having Nuclear plants when radioactive waste is an issue, how is the state of security of plants(how safe), how much is the potentials compare to gas(which Nigeria has in abundant),etc. Even developed countries do grapple with their plants regularly, sometimes they are shutdown for many reasons. Comeon, I don't think popping up a words like where do you come from? is the arguement but how much having a Nuclear power plant means. I hope Nigerians see beyond the tip yet, it's up to the country to decide.

It wasn’t an argument, it was a question, are you from Nigeria? Because I do not know

Will you not answer the question or do you think you’ll lose credibility with the Nigerian forumers if you do?

Where do I come from is that your arguement? Jeez!!! Eve managing plants in places like China, India, Pakistance are among major challenges. The disposing off the radioactive waste is a major challenge to those countries. Why would country like Nigeria with little or no expertise,uncontrolled society,bunch of corrupt leaders want to engage in Nuclear power plant when the gas deposit is abundant(It is more safe though likely a good pollutant yet exist in many developed countries). Meanwhile, the radioactive waste that was once deposited in one of Nigeria states is still posing a threat till today.The inability of some Nigerians to look into detail the consequences this Nuclear plant in the long run is surprising to me here. Before undertaking this process of Nuclear power plants, not based on what IAEA thinks(which will agree with any country based on their political preferences), there are areas that must be addressed like, does this country really needs it because it's a sign of power or want to use it for electricity is enough reason,Does it worth having Nuclear plants when radioactive waste is an issue, how is the state of security of plants(how safe), how much is the potentials compare to gas(which Nigeria has in abundant),etc. Even developed countries do grapple with their plants regularly, sometimes they are shutdown for many reasons. Comeon, I don't think popping up a words like where do you come from? is the arguement but how much having a Nuclear power plant means. I hope Nigerians see beyond the tip yet, it's up to the country to decide.



Yes Nuclear waste is a problem, even the mighty US ships it Uke weapons to France for processing.

But that doesn't mean , Nigeria Shoudn't get Nuke power plants. They have to spend less than or a bit more $100 million for diposal of the Waste. But it wil benefit the Nigerian economy in long term.

So, you choose no tohave enough electricity than having enough because of the waste? Everything we do in the world world have prices.





So what's your alternatives?

Cardozoh,

What exactly do you hope to achieve on the Nigerian forum? You want to teach Nigerians how to run their country? From your posts I gather that you are not a Nigerian and you find the posts here boring. So why do stay and keep getting into arguments with the Nigerian forumers? Make your point and leave it at that.

I am not a Nigerian and I have been visiting this site frequently for over 3 years and I have never felt the need to educate Nigerians on how to run their country or tell how much better my country is. I think you are out of line.

You have already said you find the projects here boring. Kindly go somewhere where the projects are more interesting, may I suggest the Dubai forum!!I sincerely disagree with that. The very reason why Nigeria has a part to play in the world is the very reason everybody has to be concerned about what it does. Cardozoh is righ in his comments and they are what they are, comments.He's not forcing them on anybody or on Nigeria.

It wasn’t an argument, it was a question, are you from Nigeria? Because I do not know

Will you not answer the question or do you think you’ll lose credibility with the Nigerian forumers if you do?I never said it was argument either. I was asking if that was your argument. Time without number I have said that I am not a Nigerian here .

This might lead to proliferation of nuclear plants. I read Dubai will be having theirs come on line in four to six years time. I wonder what it will look like when the whole world countries have one or more nuclear power plants.

I never said it was argument either. I was asking if that was your argument. Time without number I have said that I am not a Nigerian here .

I'm asking you where your from, not whether your Nigerian?

I sincerely disagree with that. The very reason why Nigeria has a part to play in the world is the very reason everybody has to be concerned about what it does. Cardozoh is righ in his comments and they are what they are, comments.He's not forcing them on anybody or on Nigeria.

So let us know where you’re from, so we can continuously lambast your nation and her people.

So let us know where you’re from, so we can continuously lambast your nation and her people.TX. Lambast!?Hahaha...I like you. You're very funny.

TEXAS!!! I thought you were from New Zealand

Where in Nigeria will be the best place to locate the plant?

TEXAS!!! I thought you were from New Zealand
For some reason, I had been under the impression that English is not his primary language.

Where in Nigeria will be the best place to locate the plant?

i would guess some isolated area in niger state

Cardozoh,

What exactly do you hope to achieve on the Nigerian forum? You want to teach Nigerians how to run their country? From your posts I gather that you are not a Nigerian and you find the posts here boring. So why do stay and keep getting into arguments with the Nigerian forumers? Make your point and leave it at that.

I am not a Nigerian and I have been visiting this site frequently for over 3 years and I have never felt the need to educate Nigerians on how to run their country or tell how much better my country is. I think you are out of line.

You have already said you find the projects here boring. Kindly go somewhere where the projects are more interesting, may I suggest the Dubai forum!!


I once stood in line inside a US Postal Office in Santa Clara, CA. The line was long and moved slowly and people became increasingly agitated, evident by the constant shift in their posture. A gentleman with a foreign accent spoke aloud disapprovingly of the slow service and long line. An American woman in line didn’t appreciate that a “foreigner” would dare criticize a UNITED STATES establishment.

Condescendingly, she said, “Well, in some countries, they don’t have this kind of post office.” Perhaps in her mind, the displeased postal customer should be so grateful for the privilege to be in America that he should see even the most abysmal of service as an improvement over what he left behind in his native country.

“Leave him alone! Let him criticize”, an elderly American man admonished her. “In this country, we don’t leave good enough alone...”

I witnessed the whole episode without saying a word. But silently, I thanked the elderly man for the civic lesson and his comprehension of what makes America the country it is today.

No, I wouldn’t want to hear constant criticisms of the United States, but Americans also realize that if we didn’t know what’s not good about America, we would never fix it and we would never be where we are today as a nation.

I can’t speak for whatever country you come from (I certainly hope you’re not an American), but in America, we have a long-cherished concept called “freedom of speech”. So, the notion that only Nigerians have a right to criticize the Nigerian government is sophomoric and shallow.

its not like if nigeria has a nuclear power plant its bound to explode. they will get experts to run the plant not just some guy they find off the street. :nuts:

But that’s not the point. The concern here is the record of corrupt and inept management, and abandonment of infrastructure by successive Nigerian governments.

What happened to the Ikere Dam? What happened to the steel mill that could have ushered the dawn of industrialization in Nigeria and indeed, West Africa? What happened to the National Stadium I inquired about in another thread? The answer is that the Nigerian government spent $billions to build these projects and simply abandoned them. Google “uncompleted projects in Nigeria”, if you want an eyeful. I believe the UN also has a report on these uncompleted projects

Why embark on yet another grandiose project when you can simply revive the moribund hydropower infrastructure that is the 4th largest in the world? That large dam can provide 3700MW, if utilized fully. Why not look into utilizing some of the other 160 dams in Nigeria to supply electricity to the people?

How about wind for power generation? Spain, the world’s 3rd largest producer of wind power, got over 20% of its power requirements from wind in 2008. To get an idea of the whopping amount of power Spain generates from wind, simply google “wind power in Spain”. You will be pleasantly surprised to learn that Spain gets enough power from wind to supply the entirety of Nigeria’s current electricity needs. And wind farms can be put into operation a lot quicker than a Nukes.

For some inexplicable reason, nuclear has become the latest sexy thing in Africa and that worries me. Even Kenya, another African country with a corrupt government, has embarked on a nuclear plant project.

Just last year, the International Atomic Energy Agency had to scour Nigeria for stray radioactive materials that were used in hospitals and research facilities. You have to ask yourself this question: If Nigeria had problem managing its low-level radioactive waste, how would it cope with highly toxic spent fuel from nuclear plants?

FYI: Nigeria does operate a mini reactor as a radiation (neutron) source for research into crop contamination in areas of the country that mine tin and columbite. Many colleges here in the US have these miniature reactors, so it’s no big deal.

Cardozoh,

What exactly do you hope to achieve on the Nigerian forum? You want to teach Nigerians how to run their country? From your posts I gather that you are not a Nigerian and you find the posts here boring. So why do stay and keep getting into arguments with the Nigerian forumers? Make your point and leave it at that.



Look, there’s nothing I’ve said here has not been said on VOA, BBC, Canadian and Nigerian media. This is not about the Nigerian people. Nigerian leaders need to hear this constantly because a failed state in Nigeria will have a profound effect on the world (West Africa in particular) in terms of mass migration, starvation, crime, disease migration, catastrophic climate effects...the list goes on. But I am sure liberals from whatever country you come will see this as another opportunity to assuage their collective guilt by organizing yet another “Feed Starving Kids in Africa Campaign”.

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Could you give me a link that supports your assertion on food imports?

There are many countries in Africa that could effectively be the bread basket for the continent.



Geez...all you had to do was google "Nigeria imports food"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/02/AR2009080202091.html

http://allafrica.com/stories/200903270302.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=948nsljW2WA&feature=related

Geez...all you had to do was google "Nigeria imports food"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/02/AR2009080202091.html

http://allafrica.com/stories/200903270302.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=948nsljW2WA&feature=related
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

A whopping sum of $27.97 billion was expended on food importation last year alone.
Funny, considering that Nigeria's entire exports in 2006 was just under $23 billion, while imports for 2007 was probably the $26-27 billion region. Accordingly, if we are to believe these "Google" stats, all of those new cars, buses, heavy machinery, medical equipment, aircraft, computers, telecommunications equipment, etc., that arrived in Nigeria in 2007 were actually manufactured in Nigeria!

As I noted elsewhere, Nigeria actually imports about $2-3 billion worth of food products annually (mostly rice and wheat), which is a relatively MINISCULE percentage of the tens of billion of dollars worth of food products (by conservative estimates) that are consumed annually in Nigeria. But of course, even the US (purportedly, the world's food basket) imported as much as approximately $80 billion worth of food products in 2007 (including, interestingly, shrimp from Nigeria).

And btw, those of us actually resident here in Nigeria must have slept through purported 2005 "bad harvest" in Nigeria, a year in which agricultural output was actually reported to have increased by 7 per cent, up from 6.2 per cent in 2004 (both FAO estimates). Frankly, the notion that the world's largest producer of cassava (which is actually Nigeria's primary food staple), and Africa's largest producer of the nutrients-rich soybean, is on the verge of mass starvation is quite laughable.
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I would like to engage this your laughs for once. USA is in most ways incomparable to Nigeria. So, poking fun at US in this regard would make your comments look more rediculous.

Nevertheless, every comment made here by Cardozoh is for the benefit of the ordinary Nigerians - and you seem to see it as letdown on your country. Produce more of your imported foodstuffs is a good thing, anyway.

I would like to engage this your laughs for once. USA is in most ways incomparable to Nigeria. So, poking fun at US in this regard would make your comments look more rediculous.

Nevertheless, every comment made here by Cardozoh is for the benefit of the ordinary Nigerians - and you seem to see it as letdown on your country. Produce more of your imported foodstuffs is a good thing, anyway.

By patronising Nigerians…I don’t see any good in that, maybe if he knew what he was talking about…or if he actually had something vested in the country i.e. being Nigerian himself…

By patronising Nigerians…I don’t see any good in that, maybe if he knew what he was talking about…or if he actually had something vested in the country i.e. being Nigerian himself…
:cheers1:

Anyway, it has become clear to me that FOTC's primary language is not English, so I have elected not to bother engaging in any more divergent monologues with him.

By patronising Nigerians…I don’t see any good in that, maybe if he knew what he was talking about…or if he actually had something vested in the country i.e. being Nigerian himself…My observation as a whole is based on what Cardozoh said and they are what needed to be addressed. I don't see anything bad in patronising one's people.

@JoblessBeggar. Why not give my English a break? You are very donnish!Lol.

Yet with all these ideas yet Nigeria is still unable to provide enough for its citizens. Why that, Rdokoye?

@JoblessBeggar. Why not give my English a break? You are very donnish!Lol.
Beacuse your apparent problems with the language means we are often left having two divergent discussions (actually, monologues). For instance, you are responding above to a purported "laughing at the US" post that has absolutely nothing to do with mine.

Yet with all these ideas yet Nigeria is still unable to provide enough for its citizens. Why that, Rdokoye?

The issues in Nigeria are complex and delve much deeper than surface level analytics.

The issues in Nigeria are complex and delve much deeper than surface level analytics.If that's the case, Cardozoh is right in his own comments for better logical ways to finding simple solutions. For example producing more(as I said in one of my comments) is a good solution to Nigeria in so many way. It will employ some part of the citizens,reduce importation(both revenue and volume),bring prices down,etc.If there is more copmlexity to that it is rather political(just my thought).

@friendofthecity

get off the thread if u have nothing better to contribute
why not move to your owncountry irans thread?
or wherever u are from
ppl like u like to act like u know it all,well for your info,no one cares about your info or views
nigeria should own at least one nuclear plant,with solar and wind to back up
140million ppl cannot wait for energy,govt has to start thinking about future solutions and generations

@friendofthecity

get off the thread if u have nothing better to contribute
why not move to your owncountry irans thread?
or wherever u are from
ppl like u like to act like u know it all,well for your info,no one cares about your info or views
nigeria should own at least one nuclear plant,with solar and wind to back up
140million ppl cannot wait for energy,govt has to start thinking about future solutions and generationsCalm down fool. What is the matter with you here,angry punk?

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yea am angry,go to your country thread and tear it down,stop lurking over here,

IAEA Boss Endorses The Country's Nuclear Project

The Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Ambassador Yukiwa Amano yesterday declared his support for the Nigerian nuclear project.

Ambassador Amano expressed the support in Abuja while addressing newsmen after a tour of the Gamma Irradiation Facility situated within the Sheda Science and Technology Complex, Kwali, Abuja.

He said the agency would send expert missions and other related manpower assistance to help Nigeria achieve its objective of generating power to meet its energy need, using nuclear technology.

The IAEA's Director General who assumed position as the world atomic watch dog agency on December 1, was on a three day official visit to Nigeria, the first after his assumption of office.

He said: "Yesterday (Monday), I had a very constructive meeting with the political leadership of the country including the Vice President. Today, I had the opportunity to get a firsthand experience with your scientific activities. Before coming here, I saw the land for the international cancer centre. I was very much impressed about your systematic effort at using nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, including food conservation, sterilisation, and even your effort to manufacture things by yourself. You are in the right direction and the IAEA will continue to cooperate with you."

In his remarks, the Director General of the Sheda Science and Technology Complex, Professor Sunday Thomas said most of the Gamma Irradiation Facility (GIF) is being manned by Nigerians.

allafrica.com (http://allafrica.com/stories/200912160146.html)

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yea am angry,go to your country thread and tear it down,stop lurking over here,Shut up,PRICK! I have been advocating for Nigeria not to follow the footstep of Iran.It is foolish of you to allude to the idea that am an Iranian.

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yea am angry,go to your country thread and tear it down,stop lurking over here,

Would you seriously shut up. We really don't need people like you on this forum.

Would you seriously shut up. We really don't need people like you on this forum.

zip it homie. .u cant be more catholic than the pope. . .u cant love my country more than i do. . .i dont care if u post 1000 pictures here.

As far as Climate change is the future challenge the world is facing the need for civilian nuclear power plant is imminent to the survival of human on earth. To reduce carbon emission(mostly CO2) in the atmosphere is the best way forward yet, the danger associating with mishandling of nuclear material is almost as great as the climate change effect.

NIGERIA TO BUILD NUCLEAR POWER PLANT (http://www.nigeriancuriosity.com/2009/12/nigeria-to-build-nuclear-power-plant.html)

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House Seeks Cooperation on Nuclear Technology

The House of Representatives, yesterday sued for mutual collaboration and cooperation amongst relevant stakeholders to enable Nigeria realise her dreams of developing nuclear technology, enhancing power generation and boosting industrial growth. The lower chamber of the parliament has however assured that Nigeria will continue to respect international control of development, production and use of nuclear energy, including the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and nuclear explosives.
Speaker of the House, Honourable Dimeji Bankole stated these while declaring open a public hearing on Nuclear Safety, Security and Safeguard Bill organized by the Joint Committees on Petroleum (Upstream) and Science and Technology.

The piece of legislation tagged: A Bill for an Act to repeal the Nuclear Safety and Radiation Protection Act No. 19 of 1995, enact the Nuclear Security and Safeguards Act, and Re-establish the Nigerian Nuclear Regulatory Authority seeks to reduce to a reasonable level and in a manner that is consistent with Nigeria’s international obligations, the risk of nuclear technology to national security.

It is also designed to ensure the health and safety of persons and environment that are associated with development, production and use of nuclear energy and nuclear substances.
Bankole who was represented by the Chief Whip of the House, Honourable Emeka Ihedioha said Nigeria needed to explore some new areas of technology not only to enhance its technological and economic growth but to be able to safeguard its population from either natural or human-induced risks.

He canvassed a constant interaction between policy makers, research institutes and the universities to keep the country abreast of developments in modern technology across the world.
The public hearing, Bankole said, was designed to serve as a platform upon which will emerge policy and legislative frameworks that will boost collaboration amongst key stakeholders in science and technology, adding that not much will be achieved in the areas of oil exploration and environmental safety without these regular interactions.

Chairman, House Committee on Petroleum Resources (Upstream), Honourable Bassey Otu disclosed that the use of nuclear and radioactive materials and radioactive in Nigeria came through an agreement in 1994 in which the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) sought to donate a Miniature Neutron Source Reactor (MNSR) to Nigeria under a Technical Cooperation Project (TCP).

The agreement, Otu said, became necessary because going by the rules of the International Nuclear Safety, Security and Safeguards regime, practices involving nuclear materials and radioactive sources cannot be carried out without legal and regulatory framework. He said it was this agreement that laid the foundation for the Nuclear Safety and Protection Act of 1995.

According to the lawmaker, the project commenced in 1995 but the installation was only completed in 1999 and subsequently the Nigerian Nuclear Regulatory Authority (NNRA) was established in 2001 because under the Convention on Nuclear Safety (CNS), the country could not operate a research reactor without the establishment of a regulatory agency.

He however disclosed that the new bill became necessary because after nine years, the Nigeria Nuclear Regulatory Agency Act has been found inadequate and unable to satisfy the demands of the International Safety Standards for Radiation Protection, Nuclear Safety and Security.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=178356

If the Nigerian govt. can meet the security and handling of nuclear waste there should be no reason for Nigeria not to embrace civilian nuclear facilities like nuclear power plant for electricity generation yet, am still sceptical of the country capacity and ability to do that.

Country, Russia to Partner On Nuclear Power Generation

Nigeria would collaborate with Russia in its plan of using uranium for nuclear power generation in the country, Minister of Mines and Steel Development Arch Musa Muhammad Sada has said.

He made this known in Abuja when he received Russian investors and the representatives of Nigerian Atomic Energy Commission.He said this is in attempt to address the country's energy challenges, adding that the Federal Government is also considering the use of coal for power generation.

The leader of the Russian investors Mr. Viadimir N. Averkiev said the essence of their visit was to discuss with the Nigerian government on how uranium could be used as a nuclear energy for power generation in Nigeria.

In his remarks, representative of the Director-General, Nigeria Atomic Energy Commission, Prof. Imo B. Obioh, who accompanied the Russian investors said they visited the ministry as a result of the bilateral agreement between Russia and Nigeria on atomic energy, human capacity development and steps that could be taken with the use of Uranium for nuclear power generation in Nigeria.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201010190642.html