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wheel of steel

October 13th, 2007, 04:41 AM

No this isn't correct.
Northrail is not owned and operatoed by PNR.
PNR 'may' retain the land ownership (although I have had no proof of this being the case), but they can't excercise any running right on it during the contract period. Otherwise they would not be so angry about the whole thing.

Brad

^^ Hi mate!!! Welcome Back... ahhh!!! It's been a long time. :cheers: We'll anyway theres a lot of developments will happen here in Linkage 1 as most of the relocation activities are focused much on the remaining portions of the first part of the the linkage project of PNR specially in the Muntinlupa Area. The Caloocan portion are also done already as they are scheduled to be relocated near Novaliches Area. Part of the Caloocan Program was the clearing of the depot from squatters aside from the clearing of the line from Samson St. to Tondo Boundary.

I think your analysis is right with regards to the proposal of the NHA to build multistory houses inside the triangle shaped crossing of the PNR at Tondo. Although this was yet to be confirmed but construction activities begins to show up inside this crossing. Priorities are the families living inside the triangular crossing and nearby slums including from the Tayuman St. going to Tondo boundary. Earlier proposal was to transfer them in Rodriguez, Rizal but it is still unclear. Even when you view the google earth, a vacant area is very much visible. I will try to confirm this but in my opinion, the former idea has a better chance of reality...:)

wheel of steel

October 13th, 2007, 05:05 AM

No this isn't correct.
Northrail is not owned and operatoed by PNR.
PNR 'may' retain the land ownership (although I have had no proof of this being the case), but they can't excercise any running right on it during the contract period. Otherwise they would not be so angry about the whole thing.

Brad

^^ Yup, theres a possibity that Northrail Corp. will pay rental to PNR for thier usage of Main Line North. Although again, this is not yet confirmed, concerned authorities doing the relocation are government agencies and subsidies. The line once the government clears it, will be turnedover to the Northrail Corp. as they are the once who will build the infrastructure.

In my opinion, I think the PNR will retain it ownership of the land including all of its properties in the North provided that Northrail Corp. will build the infrasructures and operate it. The BCDA plans to operate up to San Fernando in the North and Subic in the West. If the PNR plans to revive and operate the Cabanatuan and Cagayan Railway, there would no problem. The PNR will use thier land provided that they are the one who will build it own infrastructure. The PNR will build its own track beside Northrail track. This technique was very common in Japan. Just to give you an idea, a 20 right of way can fit 4 tracks (2 double track)

wheel of steel

October 13th, 2007, 05:19 AM

The initial problem is the lack of real communication between the two operations. Advanced technology really renders many systems incompatible with each other, unlike the good old days of steam when anything could go anywhere that clearances and track weight allowed.
Through Clark-Calamba services and will we see them? Nope I don't think so, at least not in the early days. Still reliable cross platform connections would go a long way.

Brad

^^ I think it's just a matter of seconds or at least a couple of minutes before you can effectively tranfer from PNR train to Northrail train and vice versa. The most important thing for now at least all of this projects become a reality by the time when we will need them most. Actually we need it so badly now and always all the time. :)

wheel of steel

October 13th, 2007, 06:24 AM

Interesting, I am curious to see how they will go about access into PNR's Tutuban yard and station.
To have their own lines seperate to PNR lands would mean even more house removal and we know how popular that would be. Perhaps there is some track access agreement afterall.
Some arrangement would likely be put in place where Northrail cannot pickup at Caloocan for Tutuban so as not to take PNR profits on their section.

Brad

^^ Hi mate, actually this is so very interesting topic. If only Tutuban Station is located at the point along the Caloocan to Calamba Line, there would be no problem at all. Cross platforms and trasnfer between trains can easily be done just like at the Kuala Lumpur KTM Central Station. The problem is that Tutuban is actually a spur line of Caloocan-Calamba Line with crossing done at the triangular shaped barangay near tondo. Tutuban before is the central terminal of all trains and still has the potential of being a major terminal. It is only the station where it is very much near to the highly concentrated part of Central Manila. Although the government seen FTI as their new central, Tutuban offers a ready made structure and requires minor rehab.

The bottom line is the train scheduling. A passenger from Caloocan going to Calamba might wish a continous train ride without dropping at Tutuban Station and transfer to another train. Also a passenger from Clark going to Manila might not wish to drop at Caloocan and take the PNR train that will send him to Tutuban. This is the very main reason why Northrail was extended to Tutuban instead of up to Caloocan Station only.

Here is some of my planned train schedule/frequency.

For PNR

PNR Commuter
From Caloocan to Calamba VV (Every 10 mins)
From Tutuban to Calamba VV (Every 10 mins)

- We expect a 5min train intervals from Blumentrit Station to Calamba as both trains from Caloocan and Tutuban will merge.

PNR Commuter/Intercity
From Caloocan to Lucena VV (Every 1hr.)
From Tutuban to Lucena VV (Every 1hr.)

- We expect a 30min train intervals from Bluementrit Station to Lucena as both trains from Caloocan and Tutuban will combine. In some case where train to Calamba VV coincides with the train to Lucena, the train going to Lucena will take charge.

PNR Regional Commuter/Intercity
From Naga to Legazpi VV (Every 1hr.)
From Calamba to Batangas VV (Every 1hr.)

PNR Rapid
From Caloocan to Calamba (Every 1hr.)
From Caloocan to Lucena (Every 2hrs.)

PNR Limited/Express
From Tutuban to Naga VV (3 Trips/Day/Direction)
From Tutuban to Legazpi VV (3 Trips/Day/Direction)
From Tutuban to Matnog VV (2 Trips/Day/Direction)

WOW Tourist Express
From Subic to Clark to Legazpi VV (1 Trip/Day/Direction)

For North Rail

North Rail Commuter
From Caloocan to Malolos VV (Every 10min)
From Tutuban to Clark VV (Every 10min)

North Rail Rapid/Airport Express
From Tutuban to Clark VV (Every 30min)

North Rail Regional Commuter
From Subic to Clark VV (Every 1hr.)

For Inter Terminal Container, Chemical and Cargo Tain
with separate track from Manila Port to Batangas Port

From Subic to Clark VV (6 trips/day on night time only)
From Clark to FTI VV (6 trips/day on night time only)
From Manila Port to FTI VV (6 trips/day)
From Batangas Port to Calamba Container Terminal to FTI VV (6 trips/day)
From Lucena to Calamba Container Terminal to FTI VV (2 trips/day)
From Matnog to FTI to Manila Port (1 trip/day)

Garbage Train

From Manila to Quezon Dump Site VV (4 trips/day)

tisoycuba

October 14th, 2007, 01:58 AM

thanks bro!

kaelthas18

October 14th, 2007, 01:00 PM

halo helo....

hiiamdib

October 15th, 2007, 04:18 AM

wohoo! clear ng ang Cabuyao. Ready na for southrail! For those you doesn't know where Cabuyao is, it is a town next to Calamba City.

icarusrising

October 15th, 2007, 04:46 AM

wohoo! clear ng ang Cabuyao. Ready na for southrail! For those you who don't know where Cabuyao is, it is a town next to Calamba City.

Going to or coming from Metro Manila? :jk:

I think that area is very promising... Lots of developments going on...

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 04:47 AM

wohoo! clear ng ang Cabuyao. Ready na for southrail! For those you doesn't know where Cabuyao is, it is a town next to Calamba City.

^^ Really, oh nice to hear from you..:okay: Thanks for the latest update hiiiamdib. Can you get some photos of it if you don't mind. Kahit low quality video, ok na rin.. Thanks a lot for the update.:banana: .. more power to you!!! :okay:

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 05:04 AM

Going to or coming from Metro Manila? :jk:

I think that area is very promising... Lots of developments going on...

^^ Cabuyao Railway Clearing is already Phase 2 of the Railway Linkage Project of PNR. That is exactly an 8km cleared right of way of PNR with minimum width of 30 meters.. Some portions specially on the station premises has 60m right of way.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/95/Ph_locator_laguna_cabuyao.png/250px-Ph_locator_laguna_cabuyao.png

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 05:07 AM

Going to or coming from Metro Manila? :jk:

I think that area is very promising... Lots of developments going on...

^^ The whole right of way as long as it is in the Cabuyao. The whole stretch of Cabuyao was cleared already...

alcogoodwin

October 15th, 2007, 06:44 AM

^^ I think it's just a matter of seconds or at least a couple of minutes before you can effectively tranfer from PNR train to Northrail train and vice versa. The most important thing for now at least all of this projects become a reality by the time when we will need them most. Actually we need it so badly now and always all the time. :)

This is true.
If two trains were to stop either side of the one platform it wouldn't take long to change between trains. If this is done at a terminal station like Tutuban there likely wouldn't be much other passenger hinderance as they would already be on the other train waiting.
If that makes sense.

Brad
** Bit of sad news from Manila. My asawas mum has a stroke the other day. While she is doing OK, she needs an operation to prevent a bigger one :(

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 07:18 AM

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 07:18 AM

This is true.
If two trains were to stop either side of the one platform it wouldn't take long to change between trains. If this is done at a terminal station like Tutuban there likely wouldn't be much other passenger hinderance as they would already be on the other train waiting.
If that makes sense.

Brad
** Bit of sad news from Manila. My asawas mum has a stroke the other day. While she is doing OK, she needs an operation to prevent a bigger one :(

^^ :banana: :banana: ^^

Hello mate!!! wowie, welcome back... ha ha ha.. In Japan, the departure of one train depends on the arrival of the other train. Let say, were in Caloocan Station and a PNR train bound for Calamba would have to stay and wait at least 2 minutes after the arrival of a North Rail Train from say Malolos. In this case, passenger wish to transfer must be on the other train by 2 min.

If the platform of the train was put side by side, passenger can easily transfer to other train without much hassle. There must be no over pass as much as possible to avoid added time during transfer.

el_dasik_oo1

October 15th, 2007, 07:52 AM

^^ The whole right of way as long as it is in the Cabuyao. The whole stretch of Cabuyao was cleared already...

The Cabuyao area is already cleared? wow! That is great news! :D Btw, do you know Ayala's new project, NUVALI, Laguna? :D

alcogoodwin

October 15th, 2007, 07:56 AM

The bottom line is the train scheduling. A passenger from Caloocan going to Calamba might wish a continous train ride without dropping at Tutuban Station and transfer to another train. Also a passenger from Clark going to Manila might not wish to drop at Caloocan and take the PNR train that will send him to Tutuban. This is the very main reason why Northrail was extended to Tutuban instead of up to Caloocan Station only.
)

OK, heres an option.
Have an island platform at the main north/south junction in Tondo with two passing lines for trains not stopping.
Selected trains are then scheduled to meet at Tondo where people can easily exchange without need to go into Tutuban.
This would result in only a normal 4 minute delay, as opposed to a good 10-15 minutes for a quick Tutuban turnaround.

Brad

alcogoodwin

October 15th, 2007, 08:02 AM

Hope you MOM In-Law would recover soon.. My best wishes and prayers for her recovery...

Thanks mate.
Just been chatting with a niece on Yahoo Messenger (ahhh the wonders of the internet even allowed me to see in their house) and I am told she came out tomorrow.
She has medicines, but she urgently requires an operation.
She will go see a specialist soon.

Brad

alcogoodwin

October 15th, 2007, 08:03 AM

The Cabuyao area is already cleared? wow! That is great news! :D Btw, do you know Ayala's new project, NUVALI, Laguna? :D

Is this the new project they are doing near the old sugar mill close to Calamba?

Brad

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 08:05 AM

The Cabuyao area is already cleared? wow! That is great news! :D Btw, do you know Ayala's new project, NUVALI, Laguna? :D

^^ Bulls Eye!!! you've got it ed... This is supposedly what i want to share here about Ayala's super project..... I know, this project will be benifited much by the LInkage Railway....

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 08:09 AM

^^ Is this the new project they are doing near the old sugar mill close to Calamba?

Brad

^^ Yup, exactly, just very near to the Canlubang Estate...ahhhh!!! This is definitely a very very big project.. Just like Makati, see those countries tallest skyscraper sits here. Imagine, Makati now has gone very crowded but before it was just only a grassland developed by Ayala...

There is now really a very big call to finished it off the Southrail... NOW!!!:lol:

alcogoodwin

October 15th, 2007, 08:09 AM

Afternoon everyone,
It was announced (on the PhilippineRailways Yahoogroup) by the board of the 'PRHS' that memberships re now being taken.
Apparently they will soon have membership forms available and a newsletter is planned.
I hope to have more details about this on my website shortly, otherwise those of you on that forum could ask for more details from Jaime.

Cheers
Brad

el_dasik_oo1

October 15th, 2007, 08:13 AM

Brad: You mean Canlubang? It is actually a huge project for the Ayala's and Yulo's *Who are these Yulo? AFAIK, they are the owners of Canlubang*. They converting Canlubang and probably some parts of Sta Rosa into a City. It will be like a smaller Makati but only situated in Laguna. And most of the prestigious Colleges and Universities(DLSU, ADMU, UST, MAPUA and St. Scho *oh la la la ladies! :D*) in Manila already have branches in that area so imagine the possibilities. There will be possibly a spur railroad line linking to that project. I assume that answers to what will happen to that Cabuyao line that I always see in the SLEX. Well, that is what I know about NUVALI so far.. For me, this will be the biggest thing to hit Laguna. :D

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 08:16 AM

ALI set to start its biggest project ever
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña
Monday, September 24, 2007
PhilStar
http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Bu...&type=2&sec=27

Property giant Ayala Land Inc. is set to embark on its biggest project to date, the Nuvali township in Canlubang, Laguna, which is seven times the size of the Makati Central Business District.

The Nuvali community, to rise on a 1,600 hectare property, is being positioned as a regional center with retail, commercial, business process outsourcing, residential, transport and even recreational components. It will be developed over a period of 30 years and will stretch from Sta. Rosa to Canlubang to Cabuyao.

The project will have essential support facilities and amenities such as retail and service outlets, schools, training centers, residential facilities, sports and recreational amenities.

About eight hectares will comprise a lake and park.

Ayala Land will kick off the Nuvali community with the construction of an IT campus named Technopod. The first building, a four-story structure, will offer 10,805 square meters of office space and is slated for completion in 2008.

The project’s residential component is seen to create the “Next Forbes Park”. Around 70 hectares have been allotted for the residential component.

Only 380 lots will be made available, with residential lots priced at around P8,000 square meters and P20,000 for the commercial lots.

The residential project will have two phases — the first phase having 113 lots and phase 2 with 270 lots.

Nuvali is also expected to evolve into a university town housing Don Bosco College, De La Salle University, St. Scholastica’s College, University of Sto. Tomas, among others. Ateneo, University of Asia & the Pacific and Xavier School reportedly have parcels of land there there.

The Canlubang project follows the P6-billion investment of ALI over the next five to 10 years for the development of the 38-hectare property of the University of the Philippines (UP) into a fully integrated information technology (IT) and IT-enabled services community.

ALI, a unit of conglomerate Ayala Corp. , has set a capital spending budget of P16.2 billion this year, up 17 percent from P13.8 billion in 2006.

Ayala Land, builder of upscale malls, quaint residential villages, and residential and office condominiums, reported a seven-percent rise in net income last year to P3.9 billion.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Nuvali/Nuvalimapeditedcopy.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/geebeng/abriomap.jpg

el_dasik_oo1

October 15th, 2007, 08:19 AM

^^

^^ Yup, exactly, just very near to the Canlubang Estate...ahhhh!!! This is definitely a very very big project.. Just like Makati, see those countries tallest skyscraper sits here. Imagine, Makati now has gone very crowded but before it was just only a grassland developed by Ayala...

There is now really a very big call to finished it off the Southrail... NOW!!!:lol:

The Canlubang estate will be/is part of this project, AFAIK. That is possibly the reason why the Yulos is involved in this project. :)

One of the reason why the Southrail should be push through and fast! Wow this gets me more excited. :lol:

I just hope that my parents will buy a piece of land on that area. Anyway, both of them worked/works with one of Ayala's companies. :D

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 08:24 AM

^^ The red-line is where the Linkage Project Southrail will pass. It can be seen in this picture that the NUVALI is so big it even occupies a kilometer squared lots... :banana:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2181/1574366595_5d76391326_o.jpg

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 08:26 AM

^^ he he he... I think my dream of reviving Canlubang Line into a Modern Railway is coming into reality now.. hmmmm.....:banana:

el_dasik_oo1

October 15th, 2007, 08:27 AM

alcogoodwin

October 15th, 2007, 08:33 AM

alcogoodwin

October 15th, 2007, 08:37 AM

Brad: You mean Canlubang? There will be possibly a spur railroad line linking to that project. I assume that answers to what will happen to that Cabuyao line that I always see in the SLEX. Well, that is what I know about NUVALI so far.. For me, this will be the biggest thing to hit Laguna. :D

Yep thats it, just couldn't remember the name. I suffer from CRAFT disease :lol:

There used to be a railway spur up there and the PRHS are expected to be contacting Ayala regarding this in the future.

Brad

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 08:50 AM

The Canlubang estate will be/is part of this project, AFAIK. That is possibly the reason why the Yulos is involved in this project. :)

One of the reason why the Southrail should be push through and fast! Wow this gets me more excited. :lol:

I just hope that my parents will buy a piece of land on that area. Anyway, both of them worked/works with one of Ayala's companies. :D

^^ Yup, you better buy a lot there while its too early. Same thing, with this huge developments Im kind of excited also. Remember, before the Ayalas are also one of the bidders for the Southrail Project. Unfortunately they back out, but we hope they will still invest in railways by operating a private lines and have train services.

el_dasik_oo1

October 15th, 2007, 08:52 AM

el_dasik_oo1

October 15th, 2007, 08:53 AM

^^ Yup, you better buy a lot there while its too early. Same thing, with this huge developments Im kind of excited also. Remember, before the Ayalas are also one of the bidders for the Southrail Project. Unfortunately they back out, but we hope they will still invest in railways by operating a private lines and have train services.

yep. Actually they talked about it already but I don't know if they are serious or not. Anyway, Hope they are serious about it. :D

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 08:53 AM

man.. If they are gonna build a Glorietta-like.. wait no.. no.. no.. a Greenbelt-like or TRINOMA-like mall in Nuvali, then there's no reason to go to Manila to chillax. I just need to take a train ride and go to Nuvali. woot! :D

^^ ha ha ha... This is I think when finished, will house better than Trinoma and Greenbelt. I consider it for me as the best real estate development ever to happen south of Manila. This by far is the most credible evidence that Manila is growing as in Mega and is very much dead serious in implementing infrastructure to support it...:) :) :)

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 08:55 AM

Thanks mate.
The PRHS guys recently did a field trip along the old railway formation to this location.

Brad

^^ Really, oh nice... Can they post it here in the drawing. I kind of lost when I am tracing the Canlubang Line in the Google earth of where it goes.. Thanks mate and the PRHs GROUP...

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 08:58 AM

oh btw.. a family friend who lives near the rail line here in San Pablo told us that the houses(including hers) in her neighborhood will be demolished soon. No exact date. Though it is sad that her house will also be demolished, at least they are already informed about it. :)..

^^ Yup, actually the roar of the notice heated up to Lucena. ha ha ha... My friends PNR lot their says they already received a notice and NHA have already conducted series of consultation regarding the proper relocation of the squatters. BTW, they will be relocated in the In_CITY Resettlements...

alcogoodwin

October 15th, 2007, 09:14 AM

^^ Really, oh nice... Can they post it here in the drawing. I kind of lost when I am tracing the Canlubang Line in the Google earth of where it goes.. Thanks mate and the PRHs GROUP...

I am almost certain there is a Google earth shot with the line marked out on the Laguna railways blog site.

Brad

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 09:31 AM

^^ This one I guess.. from the google earth. The Canlubang Branch line as seen from satellite with a yellow thick line emerging from Cabuyao Triangle. The Red Line was the Main Line Southrail to Matnog, and the Blue Line is the Batangas Spur Line.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/1575685535_4fb166db98_o.jpg

Lucentino

October 15th, 2007, 10:54 AM

el_dasik_oo1

October 15th, 2007, 11:09 AM

^^ This one I guess.. from the Laguna Railways. The Canlubang Branch line as seen from satellite.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_hac0Jx4d5lY/Ro5Tmu2fWjI/AAAAAAAAAD0/XAtE_02aWGA/s1600/Canlubang%2BPNR%2BBranch.jpg

I'm still looking for any telltale signs of this line at SLEX but it seems I can't find any.. I just downloaded the new version of google earth. *I was hoping they finally got a satellite view of my hometown but to my dismay.. oh well..*. Right now, I'm just tracing the Calamba line.. :D

edit: Just explored the Calamba line in google earth. lol. I'm trying to trace the Cabuyao line and where it goes. Right now I'm stuck at the right side (Asia Brewery side) of that Cabuyao Rail overpass.

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 11:33 AM

I'm still looking for any telltale signs of this line at SLEX but it seems I can't find any.. I just downloaded the new version of google earth. *I was hoping they finally got a satellite view of my hometown but to my dismay.. oh well..*. Right now, I'm just tracing the Calamba line.. :D

edit: Just explored the Calamba line in google earth. lol. I'm trying to trace the Cabuyao line and where it goes. Right now I'm stuck at the right side (Asia Brewery side) of that Cabuyao Rail overpass.

^^ Sorry el, the former photo was not working from the website so I've tried it by myself.

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 11:37 AM

^^ Actually guys, there have been some developments already happening but mostly after Alabang Line. Since PNR has stopped the train going to Calamba thereby loosing a chance to see all of the developments of the railway clearing thru riding a train. But hopefully, not to mention friends from concerned authorities continously gives us the latest updates and happenings around there. The biggest one and most coordinated relocation will take place this month of October on the whole stretch of Muntinlupa. :cheers:

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 11:39 AM

Howdy!

Good day everyone! I can see that this forum is very much alive once more... I'm very happy to read updates of the Southrail... thanks guys, I hope there will be more in the coming days.

So Nuvali will be the name of the Ayala project down at Canlubang... Nice! a dependable rail service will surely become a necessity when this area is developed.

^^ Wowie!!! :banana: Welcome back my friend. Im glad your comeback again. Your presence is highly appreciated. Yup, tha'ts true, Ayala will going to have a big fish project at Canlubang. Just like its simililar predecessors in the likelihood of Makati. This expect to boost the ridership of Southrail once this huge projects completed. :banana:

el_dasik_oo1

October 15th, 2007, 11:59 AM

^^ Sorry el, the former photo was not working from the website so I've tried it by myself.

No worries. Yun na lang Cabuyao line.. The last time I passed by the Greenfield/Asia Brewery exit, the line was already asphalted. :ohno:

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 12:14 PM

No worries. Yun na lang Cabuyao line.. The last time I passed by the Greenfield/Asia Brewery exit, the line was already asphalted. :ohno:

^^ Actually, when ICTSC trains are still operational, they used to spool their container at a point along this line. That's what I am so interested to know wheres that place. It appears that ICTSC before has many container train trips per day and that's amazing. You will really determine how great the activities of this container service down south of Manila..

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 12:22 PM

No worries. Yun na lang Cabuyao line.. The last time I passed by the Greenfield/Asia Brewery exit, the line was already asphalted. :ohno:

^^ I think asphalting the abandoned line was the best option in order to reuse the line and put the old line in an even more usable space. In the case of the Manila Port Line, I guess they temporarily put asphalt over lay in order to beautify the place and makes easy cleaning a lot more faster. Actually converting the abandoned line into a more usable space like converting it to a road does prevent squatters from staying at least for a few meters from the rail. This is also what the local gov't here in our province did. They build roads in parallel to the railroad. Resulting in a much more cleaned railway sides. But we can't still expect that they will not disturb or distract nor prevent any vehicle that will cross the railway. The best and best option still is to get rid of those houses inside the PNR right of way. :lol:

el_dasik_oo1

October 15th, 2007, 12:37 PM

^^ Actually, when ICTSC trains are still operational, they used to spool their container at a point along this line. That's what I am so interested to know wheres that place. It appears that ICTSC before has many container train trips per day and that's amazing. You will really determine how great the activities of this container service down south of Manila..

yep.. My mom told me about that. ICTSI used to have a warehouse or something near Calamba/Cabuyao. I was able to somewhat trace the cabuyao line on the left side. There are some traces that seems to be its line. However, I hit a dead end because there are some subdivision construction or something that blocked its path.

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 01:05 PM

yep.. My mom told me about that. ICTSI used to have a warehouse or something near Calamba/Cabuyao. I was able to somewhat trace the cabuyao line on the left side. There are some traces that seems to be its line. However, I hit a dead end because there are some subdivision construction or something that blocked its path.

^^ Me too, I've got stucked with this tracing, but fortunately I jus assumed it was the old line that I was tracing. Take a look at the laguna railway website...:cheers:

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 01:07 PM

wheel of steel

October 15th, 2007, 01:12 PM

^^ ooopppssss...LATEST!!!! ha ha ha... latest updates tol... Demolition alon Bicutan Interchange together with railway squatters. Wow! Nice improvements... thanks to GMA.

Chek this out!!!

http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/related/12808/Tension-up-during-MMDA-clearing-operation-in-Bicutan

http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/related/12894/MMDA-demolitions-continues-violence-mars-Taguig-operation

From the railroad, you can actually see the Skyway without any obstruction... nice!!! Talagang malinis na... Very good achievement MMDA boys, keep on doing....

kaelthas18

October 15th, 2007, 04:39 PM

^^ ooopppssss... ha ha ha... latest updates tol... Demolition alon Bicutan Interchange together with railway squatters. Wow! Nice improvements... thanks to GMA.

Chek this out!!!

http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/related/12808/Tension-up-during-MMDA-clearing-operation-in-Bicutan

http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/related/12894/MMDA-demolitions-continues-violence-mars-Taguig-operation

hi, im back agin, anyway, fyi, in that area , many are no discipline people, and super war freak, also there are a lot of muslims there, and the people there are very "masusungit".. believe me..

le Reine

October 15th, 2007, 06:37 PM

na-demolish ang mga squatters sa bicutan? oh my, I can't believe it.

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 03:53 AM

na-demolish ang mga squatters sa bicutan? oh my, I can't believe it.

^^ he he he... You won't really believe it at start. This shows how serious in their job the MMDA is. Lucky we have already people and authority that greatly do what is suppose to undertakings to put order the long time problem in this country. .

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 03:58 AM

hi, im back agin, anyway, fyi, in that area , many are no discipline people, and super war freak, also there are a lot of muslims there, and the people there are very "masusungit".. believe me..

^^ You're right my friend. They are also corrupt people because they claim things that does not belong to them. Naging kalunos lunos ang kalagayan ng PNR its only because of this squatters. The people doesn't like it the way they threat the passengers and can never be right that there presence can somehow be considered right. As long as there are things that at the start is wrong already, am sure this could always be never be right forever. Thanks again that we have corrected it now..:banana:

hiiamdib

October 16th, 2007, 04:41 AM

^^ Really, oh nice to hear from you..:okay: Thanks for the latest update hiiiamdib. Can you get some photos of it if you don't mind. Kahit low quality video, ok na rin.. Thanks a lot for the update.:banana: .. more power to you!!! :okay:

would like to take pics but... Nabalitaan ko lang din to sa locals sa amin. Ang alam ko, binayaran daw ng mga P50K - P150K ung mga squatter families. Cguro ung relocation site e in town din kse madami pa nmn lupa sa Laguna tsaka nandun na ung relocation sites nang mga nauna na nilipat from MM.

btw, ung eton city ba sa Sta. Rosa, tuloy? kse kung tutuloy un, mag bebenifit din sila sa tren.

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 05:00 AM

would like to take pics but... Nabalitaan ko lang din to sa locals sa amin. Ang alam ko, binayaran daw ng mga P50K - P150K ung mga squatter families. Cguro ung relocation site e in town din kse madami pa nmn lupa sa Laguna tsaka nandun na ung relocation sites nang mga nauna na nilipat from MM.

btw, ung eton city ba sa Sta. Rosa, tuloy? kse kung tutuloy un, mag bebenifit din sila sa tren.

yup!!! Thanks for the help.. Actually, any infrastructure or any real state that would be set up along the lines corrigidor would definitely be given an apple advantages. I think, before any real state development study being conducted, they first look into concerned authorities for future inrastructure projects on the areas concerned. I am sure that NUVALI will definitely considered and put too much emphasis to Southrail for their real state success...

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 05:08 AM

^^ ha ha ha..... :lol::lol::lol: maiba nga tayo.. Let's try this MRT...

Taken from Universal LRT Corporation website http://www.ulc.com.ph

Here's the future MRT7 North Avenue Station mixed up with LRT1 Extension and the "Ang totoy ng lahat ng tren" or the "Baby Train" the MRT3.he he he...:lol:

http://www.ulc.com.ph/Images/Station-1.jpg

http://www.ulc.com.ph/Images/Stn1-Sec.jpg

Here's the future MRT7 Quezon Memorial Circle Subway Station.

http://www.ulc.com.ph/Images/Station-2.jpg

http://www.ulc.com.ph/Images/Stn2-Sec.jpg

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 05:15 AM

would like to take pics but... Nabalitaan ko lang din to sa locals sa amin. Ang alam ko, binayaran daw ng mga P50K - P150K ung mga squatter families. Cguro ung relocation site e in town din kse madami pa nmn lupa sa Laguna tsaka nandun na ung relocation sites nang mga nauna na nilipat from MM.

btw, ung eton city ba sa Sta. Rosa, tuloy? kse kung tutuloy un, mag bebenifit din sila sa tren.

^^ Yup, they were relocated to in-city relocation site. In Southville Cabuyao, Laguna. Infact not only those residents from Cabuyao that was transfered inthis relocation site but based from my information, the Makati, Paco and Pandacan Slums were also relocated here. Excellent relocation site..

kaelthas18

October 16th, 2007, 05:36 AM

pi_malejana

October 16th, 2007, 05:42 AM

update sa bicutan demolishion..:)

http://www.gmanews.tv/video/12932/MMDA-eases-out-sidewalk-vendors-in-Bicutan

hiiamdib

October 16th, 2007, 06:01 AM

^^ Yup, they were relocated to in-city relocation site. In Southville Cabuyao, Laguna. Infact not only those residents from Cabuyao that was transfered inthis relocation site but based from my information, the Makati, Paco and Pandacan Slums were also relocated here. Excellent relocation site..

excellent indeed kse madami factory dun sa area and close to MM.

kaelthas18

October 16th, 2007, 06:38 AM

http://file.uploadr.com/1116e-embed

sna underground nlng along that commonwealth avenue, hindi lng up to dun sa qc circle para naman hindi eyesore when elveated, tska along qc circle..magmmukha lng xa k2lad sa monumento...dpat mga planners d2 gayahin ung tulad sa Paris sa Arc de Triomphe , ung wlang obstructions and eyesores along the area.

el_dasik_oo1

October 16th, 2007, 06:40 AM

^^ Me too, I've got stucked with this tracing, but fortunately I jus assumed it was the old line that I was tracing. Take a look at the laguna railway website...:cheers:

ok.. I already saw that one on the Laguna site. I'll try to post the "trace" pic I did yesterday. :D

Hindi kaya papunta Cavite yun? hehehe Just a speculation :D

kaelthas18

October 16th, 2007, 07:00 AM

gnda update

harley

October 16th, 2007, 07:35 AM

great updates! would appreciate pictures on that canlubang and nuvali area. hehe!

walrus357

October 16th, 2007, 07:52 AM

@WoS...very informative pics i must say, tnx a lot. bossing, baka po sa susunod kung pede p@ki re-size. ang hirap kc mag-scrool up/down, side to side..:nuts: suggestion lang po, tnx ulit:)

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 08:10 AM

y are they using lrt rolling stocks pa din? ang liit liit nyan e, sana ka2lad nlng ng mrt2 (lrt2 dw)almost 3 meters in width, dpat nga kung kkasya lng ung mrt2 roling stock sa mrt 3 bkit hindi, kaya lng maliit ung row ng mrt3 e, exclusive 4 baby lrt lng,hahaha... , naaawa ako sa passengers ng mrt3 2loy, bakit di nalang gawin ng dotc like the lrta did, they convert the orginal 2 car into 3 car and 4 car train, para maka expand capacity...

^^ Nathan, your wish is granted.. ha ha ha..:). sa drawing lang po yun but eventually the MRT7 trains will follow the MegaTren, just like what youre dreaming of. Check their website and you know what I mean...

I think, the reason why MRT3 and LRT1 came up to this "Baby Train" is that these trams can easily negotiate in a very sharp curve, unlike Mega Tren, they carefully designed the line in such a way that trains could smoothly pass in sharp curves. In other words, we really don't have an option but to accept this fact since EDSA and Taft Ave. by that time the LRT1 and MRT3 was being built has so many infrastructure to avoid already like those giant flyovers and narrow median lane of EDSA and Taft Ave.. :)

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 08:15 AM

y are they using lrt rolling stocks pa din? ang liit liit nyan e, sana ka2lad nlng ng mrt2 (lrt2 dw)almost 3 meters in width, dpat nga kung kkasya lng ung mrt2 roling stock sa mrt 3 bkit hindi, kaya lng maliit ung row ng mrt3 e, exclusive 4 baby lrt lng,hahaha... , naaawa ako sa passengers ng mrt3 2loy, bakit di nalang gawin ng dotc like the lrta did, they convert the orginal 2 car into 3 car and 4 car train, para maka expand capacity...

^^ Ngayong ko lang naiintidahan ng lubusan na talagang makipot ang daan sa EDSA and that Engineers has no option but to take the trams as the best train. Trams can easily bend since in every 10 meters of it's body there's is a pivot that makes them move like a centipede. The only option we've got is to increase the trains by doubling it's length. In this way, many passengers can take a ride on one time.

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 08:16 AM

update sa bicutan demolishion..:)

http://www.gmanews.tv/video/12932/MMDA-eases-out-sidewalk-vendors-in-Bicutan

^^ Thanks pi for the updates... :cheers:

el_dasik_oo1

October 16th, 2007, 08:22 AM

jeez.. Sila pa yung nagaalma sila na nga yung nasa mali. "Kasi Mahihirap lang kami" is such a lame excuse. Alam naman nilang bawal eh dun pa rin sila. *frustrated* *frustrated* :bash:

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 08:23 AM

@WoS...very informative pics i must say, tnx a lot. bossing, baka po sa susunod kung pede p@ki re-size. ang hirap kc mag-scrool up/down, side to side..:nuts: suggestion lang po, tnx ulit:)

^^ ha ha ha... sorry guys.. actually, before I posted it here in NS Forum, I've seen it in MRT forums but I was stunned also. ha ha ha... Opo, next time promise... Your welcome guys..:)

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 08:27 AM

jeez.. Sila pa yung nagaalma sila na nga yung nasa mali. "Kasi Mahihirap lang kami" is such a lame excuse. Alam naman nilang bawal eh dun pa rin sila. *frustrated* *frustrated* :bash:

^^ Tama, they are frustrated... hmmm.... parang mas malaki nawala dun sa may ari ng mga concretong bhay.. he he he... In fairness, an laki tlaga ng damage sa kanila, kasi yung iba botika at malaking grocery.. he he he.....

Sa mga taga MMDA, saludo po kami sa inyo!!!:rock:....

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 08:30 AM

ok.. I already saw that one on the Laguna site. I'll try to post the "trace" pic I did yesterday. :D

Hindi kaya papunta Cavite yun? hehehe Just a speculation :D

^^ Tama you po, that's intentionall going to Cavite before. Im not sure how did they ended up to Canlubang Only. Maybe they focused so much the Carmona Line. Ok... hintay ko pictures you.. but bfore you post it, your picture had been higly appreciated already... :):):)

el_dasik_oo1

October 16th, 2007, 08:33 AM

el_dasik_oo1

October 16th, 2007, 09:03 AM

Disclaimer: More investigation is needed to confirm the location of the line. I just assume that those are the Cabuyao ext. Railway line. I base it on the land features or something. :D

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8311/cabuyao1us0.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5073/cabuyao2zp9.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5756/cabuyao3fr9.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4407/cabuyao4nj4.jpg

If this line is right then It will most likely reach Canlubang and possibly part of that Canlubang line.

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 09:33 AM

WoS: umabot na kaya sa San Pedro yung demolition? kasi dun andami mga business ang maapektuhan ng demolition. Last time I was there eh nagtayo na ang MMDA ng temporary office para sa demolition at makikita mo me mga MMDA Spray paint na nakalagay sa mga buildings na maapektuhan. To remind them to remove those structures or else.

^^ Sa mga taga NHA, lagpas na ata sila and they are focusing the Calamba, Los Banos, Atimonan, San Pablo to Lucena. Although there still houses, voluntary transfer is already taking place. I think they have a dead line for their relocation, if I am not mistaken by November, the line from San Pedro, Binan and Santa Rosa should be cleared already. The Cabuyao Line pala, last year pa na clear. Kaya pala ang may ilang portion ng Canlubang sa google earth, ang linis na....

wheel of steel

October 16th, 2007, 09:35 AM

hiiamdib

October 16th, 2007, 07:53 PM

^^ the line do pass a bridge.

le Reine

October 16th, 2007, 09:10 PM

wheel of steel

October 17th, 2007, 06:25 AM

The Malolos Northrail Station before any major construction commenced.. Taken from internet. It's too ovious that the right of way is so wide. Beside it is the Malolos Flyover.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/159/365030761_8ffd32a45f_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173/365017264_4789a353cf_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/142/365030768_59e7d8a1a5_o.jpg

wheel of steel

October 17th, 2007, 07:18 AM

Lucentino

October 17th, 2007, 11:22 AM

wheel of steel

October 17th, 2007, 11:38 AM

^^Thanks for the updates!

I wonder if there are any news regarding the Cosco(?) port in Cavite (Naic/Cavite City) or Mauban and the planned spur lines into the area...

I think the govt can easily clear the ROW of Calamba-Lucena section of the Southrail --- not too many illegal settlers, and lots of space to relocate them :).

^^ Yup, that's true my friend. In fact when you view it in the google earth, you will totally see that some portions of the line going to Lucena are not so crowded. Most of them made of woods and can easily be removed. Unlike in Manila to Calamba, very dense.

alcogoodwin

October 17th, 2007, 09:54 PM

alcogoodwin

October 17th, 2007, 10:19 PM

^^ Photos of old Caloocan PNR Station in the early 80's. These pictures was taken from the internet. Originally this station has an island platform on the right. It is also the platform being use by the passengers for trains bound for San Juan.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/120/257810739_2e6c72ee22_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/113/257810736_e1001501c1_o.jpg

Howdee,
I am unsure that this is actually Caloocan Station.
The area, plus the structure of the main station, is different. I also note the station name ends in 'AMAY' although a quick perusal of the PNR map dosen't immediately suggest a station with that name.
Hard to tell but does that sign say 'San Jose' or 'San Juan'? It looks like the former of the two. These 'change here' type signs usually occured at a junction station or very near by.

Cheers
Brad

alcogoodwin

October 17th, 2007, 10:21 PM

wheel of steel

October 18th, 2007, 03:32 AM

Howdee,
I am unsure that this is actually Caloocan Station.
The area, plus the structure of the main station, is different. I also note the station name ends in 'AMAY' although a quick perusal of the PNR map dosen't immediately suggest a station with that name.
Hard to tell but does that sign say 'San Jose' or 'San Juan'? It looks like the former of the two. These 'change here' type signs usually occured at a junction station or very near by.

Cheers
Brad

^^ Hi Brad, morning... You probably right Brad, actually I've got this in the internet with PNR North Label. If this would be the case then going to San Jose,NE would mean crossover from Tarlac Station.

Check this out...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Philippine_National_Railways.png

Im not sure if threre is no other line going to San Juan. If we based on this plan, it clearly shows that only one route going to San Juan from Tarlac.

wheel of steel

October 18th, 2007, 03:34 AM

Further, I have to say these are lovely shots of carriages in the old colours. Nce to see some closeups of the near extinct 7Es to.

Brad

^^ Yup, me too. Its amazing to see the PNR in different colors aside from just being blue all the time.. he he he.... :)

el_dasik_oo1

October 18th, 2007, 09:42 AM

I will be going to Makati tomorrow for a job interview *Wish me luck guys*. Hopefully, I'll be able to take some pics of the newly demolished squatter area in Sucat/Bicutan. :)

kalbongdad

October 18th, 2007, 11:03 AM

great updates......been gone for quiet some time.....

kalbongdad

October 18th, 2007, 11:04 AM

nice updates.....been gone for quiet some time......sana nga totoo...but i still have not heard the cabinet decision on the approval of mrt7....

wheel of steel

October 18th, 2007, 11:33 AM

I will be going to Makati tomorrow for a job interview *Wish me luck guys*. Hopefully, I'll be able to take some pics of the newly demolished squatter area in Sucat/Bicutan. :)

^^ Oy, how nice naman... ha ha ha... O cige, good luck for the interview ha.. More power to you guys, hope you could get a job soon. Targetin mo yung Makati ha.. Kasi by December next year, tapos na ang Alabang to Tayuman/Caloocan railroad.. he he he... :banana:

wheel of steel

October 18th, 2007, 11:35 AM

great updates......been gone for quiet some time.....

^^ Uy, si daddy ngayon lang ng post.. Nice to hear from you dad.. Meron na ba tayong rendering of Guiginto Intermodal Station.. Sana makakuha tayo ulit para ipost ko agad dun sa International Thread sa railways forum.... :)

hiiamdib

October 18th, 2007, 08:59 PM

first of all, pag natapos ng i-modernize ang riles. Wohoo! kse pag pumunta na ako sa aamin, mag tre tren nlang ako. Hopefully, madami silang sched sa tren para masaya. Secondly, Guiguinto intermodal station?

kalbongdad

October 19th, 2007, 07:53 AM

^^ Uy, si daddy ngayon lang ng post.. Nice to hear from you dad.. Meron na ba tayong rendering of Guiginto Intermodal Station.. Sana makakuha tayo ulit para ipost ko agad dun sa International Thread sa railways forum.... :)

ya.....been quiet busy.....so medyo nde ako nakapag post for some time.....

el_dasik_oo1

October 19th, 2007, 11:03 AM

What's up ladies? I'm here in Alabang. Just came from makati. I'm safe and sound and not among the victims of alleged bomb blast in Glorietta. I saw the extent of th damage of the blast.. I was shocked. Grabe kung aksidente lang ito I guess a bit ok lang but if it is a bomb then to hell the one who planted it!

WoS: I'll post some pics probably tomorrow. Hindi ko naman masyado nakita yung mga nademolished eh.. Dun sa area na napicturan ko wala naman.

alcogoodwin

October 19th, 2007, 12:31 PM

^^ Hi Brad, morning... You probably right Brad, actually I've got this in the internet with PNR North Label. If this would be the case then going to San Jose,NE would mean crossover from Tarlac Station.

Check this out...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Philippine_National_Railways.png

Im not sure if threre is no other line going to San Juan. If we based on this plan, it clearly shows that only one route going to San Juan from Tarlac.

Interestingly there is a San Jose on the Batangas line as well. Though this still wouldn't explain the letters in that station name.
Don't ya just love a mystery :)

Brad

** Sympathies to anyone affected by the horrific explotion at the Glorietta Mall. Really brings it home when you hear of these things happening in places I have been. So sad in such a great country

alcogoodwin

October 19th, 2007, 12:34 PM

^^ Yup, me too. Its amazing to see the PNR in different colors aside from just being blue all the time.. he he he.... :)

When I first went in 1999 locomotives were found in four different liveries and rollingstock in many others.
Although it is suposed to give a bad image, it certainly was colourful.
Nowdays nearly everything is blue with red lining, with a few rare traces of red with yellow lining.

Brad

alcogoodwin

October 19th, 2007, 12:40 PM

What's up ladies? I'm here in Alabang. Just came from makati. I'm safe and sound and not among the victims of alleged bomb blast in Glorietta. .

Hi dude, good to hear from you.
Was a bit worried when I read your post about going to Makati. At least you are OK.

Brad

wheel of steel

October 20th, 2007, 04:51 AM

wheel of steel

October 20th, 2007, 04:54 AM

^^ Actually andito me sa Manila ngayon.. he he he... kaso balikan lang, maya uwi na me... Let's see if I can get some photos of the railway happenings... he he he.. But but , I have some very very good news for you... Coz only today, I took up the PNR Ride from Tayuman to Alabang and vice versa... and I just discovered something to ba glad for... but Il post it na lang 2m cause I have no time... Pressure ang time ko today so everythings means hurry up, he he he.. :)
^^

kaelthas18

October 21st, 2007, 01:29 PM

hi good news everyone yesterday i saw aroung buendia station, rinerenovate na nila... i dont have pics kc nakisakay lng ako sa ate ko pumunta ng makati med.

kaelthas18

October 21st, 2007, 01:31 PM

study about northrail

http://file.uploadr.com/11322-embed

http://file.uploadr.com/11323-embed

wheel of steel

October 21st, 2007, 01:48 PM

hi good news everyone yesterday i saw aroung buendia station, rinerenovate na nila... i dont have pics kc nakisakay lng ako sa ate ko pumunta ng makati med.

^^ ha ha ha ha..... ohhh wow wow wowie!!! The wait has finally over... :banana::banana:
^^

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2407/1670224933_e72acced7d_o.jpg

I WAS THERE!!!! YESTERDAY... HE HE HE...

wheel of steel

October 21st, 2007, 01:53 PM

^^ ha ha ha.... Hi, Nathan, sayang di tayo nagkita golden boy... I had only 1 day affair in Manila... So, andito na naman ako sa Bicol.. But anyway... arrrggghhhh.... andami kong kwento sa inyo.. But, 2m na lang ha.. kasi... paggood na paggooddd me... bugbug sarado sa biyahe sa bus mga 24hrs roundtrip in around 36hrs.. he he he... bali 12 hrs. lang me nagstay diyan sa Manila... and I've got the opportunity to ride on, balikan sa PNR Alabang to Tayuman...

Promise guys, 2m more pictures to come and analysis.. But I don't have the video guys.. Sori for that... see you tomorrow....:banana:

wheel of steel

October 22nd, 2007, 08:08 AM

^^ Hi, there... hello guys... who whe...:banana: he he he.. update muna po tayo sa Northrail Ha...

This is already for sure that the Hanjin took over the construction of the North Line and South Line Linkage Project. Last Saturday, I was in Manila for my business trip, but due to my insistence I took a ride of a PNR Train bound for Alabang at morning. Amid excited, I noticed that there are already many houses voluntarily being demolished along the Blumentrit section of the project. I think the governments program is really working now, and that no force eviction should take place and that the intiative should alwasys come from the squatters itself. While I am on my way to Espanya, I noticed that small no. of houses are recently demolished already but one thing it surprised me a lot is that this time it's not only the houses near the railroad that was demolished but also houses along Algeceras and Antipolo St. were demolished..

From Dapitan St. to Espanya St., houses supposedly part of the PNR Pabahay sa riles remains and set backed at 5meters from the outer rails. Though, part were demolished already, the certainty does not guarrantee since I actually talked to some of the locals there that the government has no agreement or whatsoever with this 5meters setbacked. They will truly pursue with the 30 meters right-of-way.

From Espanya St. to Magsasay Ave... oh, yess... a little no. of houses were already starting to be demoloshed and many are voluntarily demolishing their shanties. Actually, there are already houses abandoned and only waiting for demolition teams to come.

From Magsaysay St. to FTI, as usual it is cleared already... From FTI to Bicutan, many activities already happening. Some of the houses were torn already. Some residents says the government of Paranaque will start the demolition this middle of October.

From Bicutan to Sucat, very interesting activities I've witnessed here. Many houses were already being demolished by the residents mostly concrete with 2nd and 3rd floor levels. I think the lenth is 2km to 3km, left and right. It's very interesting to see that the developments its so huge since most of the structures removed are so big. Many are part of the factories. If anyone of you guys want to go there, you must ride on the train because its deep inside the line. Aside from these concrete houses, many wooden houses already starts to move out. From Sucat to Alabang, most of the houses were made of woods and small no. of houses already volunteered to move out. They say that it's better to move with the help of demolition team as they cannot remove it by themselves the torned house.

wheel of steel

October 22nd, 2007, 08:15 AM

^^ Ahhh... In addition nga pala guys, the line from Alabang to Santa Rosa, have already started to move out since 2 weeks ago upon the completion of the Muntinlupa Relocation Site. The Cabuyao Part was aready 100% cleared. The NHA will be focusing much of their attention along the Calamba to San Pablo and Lucena new railway depot.

wheel of steel

October 22nd, 2007, 08:40 AM

^^ The most important thing is the finally the NS Linkage Project has started. Preliminary phase are the renovation of Pasay and Buendia Station and the other teams are assigned at the Sta. Mesa Station. Here are some of my photos actually taken by me... he he he.... :banana::banana::banana:

Nice Blue Liveries!!! :banana::banana: bound for Alabang running between Buendia Station and Pasay Station. Nice!!!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2118/1670962156_b7381186ee_o.jpg

Another Close-Up View of the Great PNR Locomotives and Coaches...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2202/1671046492_6d20fad607_o.jpg

Hanjin Boys on ACTION!!!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2108/1671046520_e2af4bd864_o.jpg

From expressway looking at the Construction Site of the Buendia Station...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2262/1671046504_6fc9239568_o.jpg

Seating at the Buendia Station. Hanjin program includes the elevation of the station's platform by 3 feet and the elevation of the tracks as the new trains will require same platform level as that of the train. Meaning no more jumping between trains and the station platform. The original design of the station will be retained and the platform will be asphalt overlayed with yellow tiles serving as the buffer lines. The design have been long used in Japan and it proves so well.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2290/1671046556_94d1b26065_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2077/1670224917_f72f7029eb_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2407/1670224933_e72acced7d_o.jpg

^^ Pasay Station Premises Under Construction. Im seating from the station waiting area looking towards the Buendia Station.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2290/1670962118_2dd760519b_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2400/1670962048_ae4ae16c4f_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2084/1670962100_d88e29dfea_o.jpg

diz

October 22nd, 2007, 09:15 AM

whoa! amazing!! thanks.

wheel of steel

October 22nd, 2007, 09:27 AM

whoa! amazing!! thanks.

^^ Thanks you diz, thanks for the appreciation.... :banana: Well actually, ngayon naumpisahan na talaga, maramirami na rin ang maiipopost ko dito. Promise more pictures to come.. specially in the Los Banos to Lucena Section where almost every structure will be absolutely modern includng one major bridge...:)

el_dasik_oo1

October 22nd, 2007, 10:14 AM

woot! hindi ko nakita yan renovation ah.. andito ulit ako sa Makati for a final interview.. Anyway, the interview is finished and I just need to finish the requirements then I'm employed again. hehehe
I went to Glorietta *yes inside of it* during lunch time.. man, it is noticebly few people at Glorietta right now. Supposedly there are should be employees from various companies looking for restos but unfortunately there are only few of them. :(

WoS: I'll post my pics tomorrow.. Pero ayus yan pre :D

wheel of steel

October 22nd, 2007, 12:33 PM

wheel of steel

October 22nd, 2007, 01:15 PM

el_dasik_oo1

October 22nd, 2007, 02:22 PM

Nakita ko na kanina though madilim nga lang *ginabi ako ng uwi eh* hehehe. Ang ganda talaga tignan kapag walang mga skwating sa riles. :D

manchowyin

October 22nd, 2007, 07:31 PM

You deserve an award for keeping this thread interesting and worthwhile following! :):):):):)

harley

October 23rd, 2007, 05:00 AM

hey WoS galing naman! gusto ko rin mag trip from Tutuban to Alabang. PAano ba gagawin? Never pa ako nakasakay eh.. sasama ko girlfriend ko for a very weird date. :D

wheel of steel

October 23rd, 2007, 05:16 AM

hey WoS galing naman! gusto ko rin mag trip from Tutuban to Alabang. PAano ba gagawin? Never pa ako nakasakay eh.. sasama ko girlfriend ko for a very weird date. :D

^^ Many thanks Harley, and sa girlfriend mo....

Ok simple lang harley, go to Tayuman PNR Station thru Tayuman St., then wait at the station trains from Tutuban. Pwede rin sa Tutuban. In riding PNR, wear only usual clothes and avoid wearing expensive earings, neck lace, etch. and always keep your cellphones always at the pocket.

It's really nice to ride on the PNR Trains except that it is so bumpy, he he he.... If only the rails are properly set in place, the ride from Tutuban to Alabang would take up only around 45 mins. That's is enourmously fast already since youre departing from Manila. An ordinary bus usually take about an hour or more.

Marami nang nabago sa PNR at matutuwa ka, marami marami nang concrete houses and nagiba voluntarily. So more and more houses will be demolished soon. You will be glad because in all of your life, it is only the time you will see the PNR running on railroad without squatters anymore. So, hang on and enjoy your ride.. Take Care!!!

hiiamdib

October 23rd, 2007, 05:21 AM

Mr. Wheel, so are those stations are only going to be renovated? Do you know their ticketing scheme and what does the station would look like, waiting are and such?

wheel of steel

October 23rd, 2007, 05:41 AM

Mr. Wheel, so are those stations are only going to be renovated? Do you know their ticketing scheme and what does the station would look like, waiting are and such?

^^ Hi there, hiiamdib.... Actually, with a budget of only $50M, I don't think they are going to build a modern look station. I talk one of the supervisor there about what are they going to do with the stations. He said they will just renovate all of the stations and retain the original design. But they will elevate it, increasing the platform level to almost 3 feet. Other facilities will include modern ticketing system similar to the one the LRTs are using. They will also put asphalt overlay to the platforms and tiles for buffer zones. Monitors and digital board for train schedules would be installed. Ask why they will elevated the platform, he said it's because the train to be used will all be new and modern with same platform level to the train. There will be a 4 car formation. Sidings for extra trains will also be built on selected stations such as Pasay, Sta. Mesa and Sucat as extra 3 more tracks will be laid in addition to the 2 running tracks..

Part of their programs also was the addition of 1 more tracks in addition to 2 existing tracks from FTI to Calamba for container trains services.

wheel of steel

October 23rd, 2007, 05:48 AM

You deserve an award for keeping this thread interesting and worthwhile following! :):):):):)

^^ Thank you so much Manchowyin for the great appreciation. This is what I really wanted to be for PNR. I hope they could finished it already from Caloocan to Alabang as the expressway project along South Expressway is already in full swing and expecting too much traffic in that area.

wheel of steel

October 23rd, 2007, 05:58 AM

^^ Sori guys for not having pictures of the demolished houses along the tracks as I am observing first what is the NHA is doing so far.. Well, it's nice that more and more houses now are being removed and voluntariy cleared by the squatters. Some portions have already markers set by NHA as limit for the demolition team.

I manage to ask one of the squatter affected by the project. He said that all the papers leading to the relocation site are already signed and approved and they are just waiting for the demolition team to come so they could transport their still usable part of their house to be demolish like wooden lumbers and corrugated roofings. Aks if they are satisfied with the relocation site, he said that they appreciate it a lot bacause it is only the first time they can truly own their house and lot. They also thank the NHA for their orderly and scheduled transfer for their respective relocation site.

There are some who voluntarily demolished their houses especially those concrete ones. They are patiently destroying post, beams and slabs of thier houses to extract usuable items one of which is reinforcement bars. Demolition of the houses have started this October and will be finished by the end of November....

hiiamdib

October 23rd, 2007, 05:59 AM

^^ Hi there, hiiamdib.... Actually, with a budget of only $50M, I don't think they are going to build a modern look station. I talk one of the supervisor there about what are they going to do with the stations. He said they will just renovate all of the stations and retain the original design. But they will elevate it, increasing the platform level to almost 3 feet. Other facilities will include modern ticketing system similar to the one the LRTs are using. They will also put asphalt overlay to the platforms and tiles for buffer zones. Monitors and digital board for train schedules would be installed. Ask why they will elevated the platform, he said it's because the train to be used will all be new and modern with same platform level to the train. There will be a 4 car formation. Sidings for extra trains will also be built on selected stations such as Pasay, Sta. Mesa and Sucat as extra 3 more tracks will be laid in addition to the 2 running tracks..

Part of their programs also was the addition of 1 more tracks in addition to 2 existing tracks from FTI to Calamba for container trains services.

well as long as it is clean and efficient, I think I will be okei with it. I like the ticketing system they are going to implement now plus the digital boards and monitors. I think that there is room for improvement anyway specialy if the railways system becomes a big hit. heheh Tnx for the updates!!!! ^^ Before I left the country, I used to ride the train to metro manila with my father (when they still offered the air-conditioned carriers. Do they still offer that today or it will come with the new trains?). I would often dream that one day, I could see the plains and farms around the Laguna area without hindrances. I think my plan dreams would materialize soon.

By the way, the northrail stations look cool. I guess that is what you get with bigger budgets huh. Will the whole railway system use the same kind of trains?

kalbongdad

October 23rd, 2007, 06:01 AM

^^ Hi there, hiiamdib.... Actually, with a budget of only $50M, I don't think they are going to build a modern look station. I talk one of the supervisor there about what are they going to do with the stations. He said they will just renovate all of the stations and retain the original design. But they will elevate it, increasing the platform level to almost 3 feet. Other facilities will include modern ticketing system similar to the one the LRTs are using. They will also put asphalt overlay to the platforms and tiles for buffer zones. Monitors and digital board for train schedules would be installed. Ask why they will elevated the platform, he said it's because the train to be used will all be new and modern with same platform level to the train. There will be a 4 car formation. Sidings for extra trains will also be built on selected stations such as Pasay, Sta. Mesa and Sucat as extra 3 more tracks will be laid in addition to the 2 running tracks..

Part of their programs also was the addition of 1 more tracks in addition to 2 existing tracks from FTI to Calamba for container trains services.

well....renovation does not mean retaining the old design... they could infuse a modern look for the roof not the usual galvanized iron roofing...by using other materials and.. redesigning the roof....voila...a new and modern looking station....restrooms should also be provided in each station...

wheel of steel

October 23rd, 2007, 06:12 AM

well as long as it is clean and efficient, I think I will be okei with it. I like the ticketing system they are going to implement now plus the digital boards and monitors. I think that there is room for improvement anyway specialy if the railways system becomes a big hit. heheh Tnx for the updates!!!! ^^ Before I left the country, I used to ride the train to metro manila with my father (when they still offered the air-conditioned carriers. Do they still offer that today or it will come with the new trains?). I would often dream that one day, I could see the plains and farms around the Laguna area without hindrances. I think my plan dreams would materialize soon.

By the way, the northrail stations look cool. I guess that is what you get with bigger budgets huh. Will the whole railway system use the same kind of trains?

^^ I will assure you hiiamdib, from what I've seen in the developments along the Bicutan to Sucat, they are certainly aiming for a wider space with totally no hindrances. Actually the right of way is even more wider than what we see in Makati.....

With regards to the trains, PNR Linkage Project 1 and 2, is a lot more different from North Rail Phase 1 and PNR Southrail 1... Though both will use new and modern trains and new tracks, North Rail 1 and PNR Southrail 1 projects has really an inch with their massive budget, they can truyly build and ultra modern, brand new and fast railway system. Northrail 1 (Caloocan to Malolos to Clark) cost at $1.2billion and Southrail 1 (Calamba to Lucena to Legazpi to Matnog) costs at $1billion

wheel of steel

October 23rd, 2007, 06:21 AM

well....renovation does not mean retaining the old design... they could infuse a modern look for the roof not the usual galvanized iron roofing...by using other materials and.. redesigning the roof....voila...a new and modern looking station....restrooms should also be provided in each station...

^^ Hi dad, yup they might wish to add a modern looks as existing frames and roofs could no longer be usable. They might be using a pre fab system in which the parts of the station are prefabricated already. Remember, back in July the PNR remitted already $14million for advance payment. Hanjin might use it to build the prefabricated items.

harley

October 23rd, 2007, 07:50 AM

thanks wheel! where is the tutuban station located? i just know the mall itself. :D
how much will it cost by the way?

wheel of steel

October 23rd, 2007, 08:02 AM

thanks wheel! where is the tutuban station located? i just know the mall itself. :D
how much will it cost by the way?

^^ The Tutuban Mall itself was the original terminal of the Philippine National Railways. It is the main central terminal of all the PNR operations be it Northrail or Southrail. In 1990s, the PNR was forced to leased this property due to its heavy revenue loss. ..

I think, by June next year, the first phase of the linkage project will be operational already. I am not sure if the line from Tutuban to Blumentrit Station will be operational already. First Phase covers from Caloocan to Alabang where a junction after Blumentrit Station goes to Tutuban Central Station. Estimated fare for Caloocan to Alabang is in the range of 20 to 30 pesos, airconditioned with traveling time of 40mins with 5 min train intervals....

kaelthas18

October 23rd, 2007, 08:44 AM

kaelthas18

October 23rd, 2007, 08:51 AM

btw wheel of steel, the pic in buendia station, are they going to raise the platform there?.. so that pwde sa mga disabled or just a design..?..

kaelthas18

October 23rd, 2007, 08:52 AM

by next yr, after i finish schl il be posting my designs here of my pnr commuter rail stations..haha..

el_dasik_oo1

October 23rd, 2007, 09:18 AM

Here are some shots of the bicutan to magallanes area.. Baka nga sa kabilang side yung nademolished kasi wala naman ako masyadong nakita mga bahay na natanggal na. Bungi bungi siya pero medyo dumami na compared dati.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3209/sshrail1gn9.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1439/sshrail2dt4.jpg

Sakto pagdating ko sa Buendia ave., me dumadaan na tren. Mabait yung katabi ko kasi tumungo siya para makuha ko yan pic. :nuts:

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3355/sshrail3wn4.jpg

wheel of steel

October 23rd, 2007, 09:34 AM

mga parekoy, on hold daw ang northrail.. sbi ng friend ko...

^^ ha ha ha... hindi po hold ang Northrail Project..... may problema pa kasi sila sa right of way sa parteng Pampanga.... They need it very badly that's why until now they coudn't come up to a full blast construction. But on some portion other than the Malolos Station, they have already busy with the enbankment procedure. Just like what happened in the Malabon Right of Way...

wheel of steel

October 23rd, 2007, 09:39 AM

btw wheel of steel, the pic in buendia station, are they going to raise the platform there?.. so that pwde sa mga disabled or just a design..?.....

^^ Absolutely they will raise the platform in such a way that all type of passengers can easily access the door of the train without leaping. Just like what we see in the LRT and MRT.. The railroad also will be raised since more ballast will be put in place and that the new rail is quite bigger than we currently use.

At first I couldn't believe that the final platform is 3ft above the current one.. I think the trains will be standardized and completely a 4 car DMU formation.

wheel of steel

October 23rd, 2007, 09:40 AM

by next yr, after i finish schl il be posting my designs here of my pnr commuter rail stations..haha..

^^ he he he.... Try to post it na here... Kahit sample lang.... I love to see the design of my fellow Thomasian... :banana:

wheel of steel

October 23rd, 2007, 09:44 AM

Here are some shots of the bicutan to magallanes area.. Baka nga sa kabilang side yung nademolished kasi wala naman ako masyadong nakita mga bahay na natanggal na. Bungi bungi siya pero medyo dumami na compared dati.

^^ Whoaahhhh.... :banana: Nice picture el...ha ha ha.... I think your cp is a hightech one. Many thanks for the pictures. We'll actually, pademolished na ang mga yan. They were completely made of wood and it's hole part of Paranaque City. But your right, when I rode on the PNR Train, I noticed that the other side was almost cleared already. It's only the Expressway Side that still remains but unfortunately they will be romoved soon. Many riders already said they have seen many houses already being demolished since the relocation begun last June, 2007.

Try riding the PNR Train and you know what I mean.... :banana:

wheel of steel

October 23rd, 2007, 12:12 PM

^^ This is only a verification why the slums from the Toll Gate of South Expressway to Near Bicutan still there. Infact they are scheduled to be demolish this October prior to the consideration being given to them by VP Noli when they were visited last July. This portion is part of Brgy. San Martin de Porress which is part of Paranaque. Again the reason why they are still there because the mayor ask at least three months preparation from July to present. Heres is the follow-up news posted last July. The relocation will definitely start this October till November..

Squatters along railways given three months to move out

By Julie M. Aurelio
Inquirer
Last updated 07:52pm (Mla time) 07/18/2007

MANILA, Philippines -- Squatters living along the railroad tracks in Parañaque City on Wednesday were given three more months to move out of the area in order to give way to the modernization of the South Luzon Railway.

City mayor Florencio Bernabe Jr. said the affected informal settlers along the rail tracks are currently being polled on their preferred relocation sites as the Philippine National Railway (PNR) continues its clearing operations.

"The informal settlers along the railroad tracks in Barangay (village) San Martin de Porres have expressed their desire to be relocated to San Pedro town in Laguna as it would keep them close to their places of work," the mayor said.

Under the guidelines set by the Community Mortgage Program, the city government would ascertain the legitimacy of the residents' claims to the land and would find the most suitable relocation area for the residents.

Mayor Bernabe added that he is holding a dialogue with seven homeowners associations and one traders group in the 2.5- to 3-kilometer strip within the jurisdiction of San Martin de Porres.

He also expressed concern over the concrete commercial structures some residents have built along the railway.

"Some claim to be sitting partly on PNR property and partly on private properties. These residents have expressed fears over the possibility that their business establishments would be demolished without due compensation," the city official explained.

In a recent visit to San Martin de Porres, vice president Noli de Castro gave the city government and the settlers until October to clear the area.

"The clearing operation and relocation of the settlers should be completed within three months," de Castro said while commending the city government for ensuring the settlers' orderly transfer to the relocation areas.

Part of the modernization of the South Luzon Railway includes four railroad tracks which would be placed 15 meters apart of each other, the vice president added.

However, de Castro voiced his opposition to San Pedro, Laguna as a relocation area because it was near an open dumpsite and would pose health hazards to the 1,650 families due to relocate there.

Instead, the vice president offered Biñan, Laguna or Trece Martires City, Cavite where ready-for-occupancy houses and 100 to 125 square meter lots are available.

De Castro said the houses already have running water and electricity, and that the settlers would only pay a monthly rate of P200 for the homes plus the bill for water and electricity.

Here is the Map of the Paranaque Section of Southrail highlighted by red thick line.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2344/1707250028_a9d6258b49_o.jpg

Highlighted by yello thick line.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2151/1707125552_4a511c13f8_o.jpg

hiiamdib

October 23rd, 2007, 08:31 PM

^^ The Tutuban Mall itself was the original terminal of the Philippine National Railways. It is the main central terminal of all the PNR operations be it Northrail or Southrail. In 1990s, the PNR was forced to leased this property due to its heavy revenue loss. ..

I think, by June next year, the first phase of the linkage project will be operational already. I am not sure if the line from Tutuban to Blumentrit Station will be operational already. First Phase covers from Caloocan to Alabang where a junction after Blumentrit Station goes to Tutuban Central Station. Estimated fare for Caloocan to Alabang is in the range of 20 to 30 pesos, airconditioned with traveling time of 40mins with 5 min train intervals....

first question, are they going to revive the old look of paco station? Secondly, tutuban station will be the main terminal? and lastly, so the linkage project will be operated like the MRT and LRT, was that you were saying? So trains rounding in circles inside MM route would be different with the trains that move out of MM, is that right?

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 02:54 AM

first question, are they going to revive the old look of paco station? Secondly, tutuban station will be the main terminal? and lastly, so the linkage project will be operated like the MRT and LRT, was that you were saying? So trains rounding in circles inside MM route would be different with the trains that move out of MM, is that right?

^^ One thing for sure is that Paco Station will be preserved and it was declared by DOT as Historical Site together with other well knowned PNR Stations. The PNR however will build a station in Paco. Im not sure if it will be in the old Paco Station.

With regards to the PNR central operations, Caloocan City will be the 1st option since the initial phase will cover the Caloocan to Alabang Segment but there will also trains to ply the Tutuban to Alabang route. Though, FTI Central Station eyed as the future central operation center, Tutuban Station for a while will serve as temporary central station once the Northrail and Southrail Projects are complete done since all of the trains will originate from this station.

Yup, PNR trains that will ply the Mega Manila route will be completely different from those long distance trains. Commuter and Rapid Train service will be served along Caloocan to Alabang to Calamba and later to Lucena section while Express Trains will be served in long distance routes such as Tutuban to Naga, Legazpi and Matnog sections. Northrail on the other hand will also offer commuter and rapid train services from Caloocan to Malolos to Clark and later on to Subic and San Fernando La Union. On ther other ultra modern Airport Express Trains will be served from For Bonifactio to DMIA.

odyssey

October 24th, 2007, 03:06 AM

WheelofSteel Photo:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173/365017264_4789a353cf_o.jpg

This train station exudes an "antique-ish" character. How many more stations have this type of structure. It must be preserved and good to juxtapose with a bit taller, yet modernized one, like the buildings found in Washington DC.

alcogoodwin

October 24th, 2007, 05:36 AM

^^ Hi, there... hello guys... who whe...:banana: he he he.. update muna po tayo sa Northrail Ha...

From Magsaysay St. to FTI, as usual it is cleared already... From FTI to Bicutan, many activities already happening. Some of the houses were torn already. Some residents says the government of Paranaque will start the demolition this middle of October.
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WoS, many thanks for so many great updates.
Great also to see the upgrade photo of Buendia station as well. Terrific stuff.

Brad

alcogoodwin

October 24th, 2007, 05:42 AM

^^ Thanks you diz, thanks for the appreciation.... :banana: Well actually, ngayon naumpisahan na talaga, maramirami na rin ang maiipopost ko dito. Promise more pictures to come.. specially in the Los Banos to Lucena Section where almost every structure will be absolutely modern includng one major bridge...:)

Still never ceases to amaze me the actual changes that have taken place since February.
Thanks for the shots, if it wasn't for your efforts I would never now what it looks like.

Brad

alcogoodwin

October 24th, 2007, 05:48 AM

I went to Glorietta *yes inside of it* during lunch time.. man, it is noticebly few people at Glorietta right now. Supposedly there are should be employees from various companies looking for restos but unfortunately there are only few of them. :(
D

What? They let you inside the building already?
Streeeewth not even an engineers inspection or anything? Surely this would take quite a few days.

Brad

alcogoodwin

October 24th, 2007, 05:56 AM

well as long as it is clean and efficient, I think I will be okei with it. I like the ticketing system ?

Which part of the ticketing system do you like?

Until we have intermodal ticketing between transport modes it would take a lot to impress me with the ticketing system.

Brad

harley

October 24th, 2007, 06:29 AM

yes. do we have any updates regarding our ticketing system?
all updates lead to physical contstruction. how about tech stuff?

hoping for an Octopus card, reloadable and also can be used in vendos :D

alcogoodwin

October 24th, 2007, 07:04 AM

yes. do we have any updates regarding our ticketing system?
all updates lead to physical contstruction. how about tech stuff?

hoping for an Octopus card, reloadable and also can be used in vendos :D

Octopus card?

What is badly needed for the Phils is an integrated ticketing system with transfers available directly between all rail, bus and LRT/MRT services.
No more individual ticket purchases would speed things up, while timetable coordination and removal of service duplication would be a HUGE improvement for public transportation in the Phils.

Ultimately you can have the latest ticketing system, with gold printed tickets and electronic sales. But it all means nothing if it isn't usable across all transport and this transport all made to work together.

Brad

alcogoodwin

October 24th, 2007, 07:05 AM

Eviction continues in spite of moratorium
By Rio N. Araja

THE Metro Manila Development Authority has granted a Senate committee’s order of a month-long moratorium on the eviction of urban slum dwellers but vows to continue the drive against settlers along the railroad in Taguig City.

Chairman Bayani Fernando ordered the Sidewalk Clearing Operations Group to freeze the demolition of houses encroaching on the roadways, waterways or occupying danger zones.

Taking exception, group head Robert Esquivel said ongoing campaign against makeshift illegal business establishments would continue along Commonwealth Avenue in Quezon City.

While honoring the Senate directive, Fernando said work on the 32-kilometer Philippine National Railway southline had to continue at a slum section in Bicutan.

“The government must reclaim the 30-meter width of the right-of-way from the property line or the edge of the two-track railway.”

He called on the settlers to voluntarily leave for their own safety.

“I saw garbage all over during my several surveys. It’s terrible. The railroad was even covered with mud.”

Fernando said foreign engineer-contrators had stopped the project when squatters stuck to their hovels.

Earlier in Makati City, Esquivel said he received Fernando’s instruction after Thursday’s removal of 50 informal settlers on Tripa de Gallina Estero stretching to Vito Cruz Street in Manila.

“We are giving all informal settlers a month to pack up their belongings and leave,” Esquivel told Standard Today.

He dismissed the allegations of Urban Poor Associates of any violation of the moratorium.

Ted Añana, the group’s deputy coordinator, claimed that the Senate committee on urban planning, housing and resettlement had issued a moratorium order, directing Fernando to give the slum dwellers a one-month grace period during an inquiry involving 100 leaders of various urban poor groups.

Esquivel said the lives of slum dwellers are imperiled in danger zones such as creeksides, river banks, under bridges and other sections of the metropolis prone to flashfloods.

The railway rehabilitation will serve 16 stations from Caloocan City to Alabang, Muntinlupa City.

Fernando said the railroad has been around “for more than 20 years... most parts are considered museum pieces.”

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 07:09 AM

WoS, many thanks for so many great updates.
Great also to see the upgrade photo of Buendia station as well. Terrific stuff.

Brad

^^ Hi, Brad, wow!!! ha ha ha... Thanks for the appreciation. By the way, you can use the pictures for the PRHS website. I love it to be displayed there and also it for all of us here. By 1st week of November, Il be coming back again to Manila but this time Il be prepared... Il be bringing my video cp and digital camera. I suppose to take a shots along the Sucat to Alabang but I was a little affraid and having concentrations to the markings set by the NHA as boundary.

Anyway, Im very much glad that Southrail begins its initial phase. This week, Engineers and Hanjin workers are scheduled to groundbreak at the Sta. Mesa and Pandacan Bridge as informed by one of the Hanjin workers in Buendia Site. He said they are divided into three groups, the other one at the Paco Stations and Vito Cruz Station...:banana:

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 07:13 AM

WoS, many thanks for so many great updates.
Great also to see the upgrade photo of Buendia station as well. Terrific stuff.

Brad

^^ I guess our we were right about our analysis before that how much a 50$m dollar rehab can make.. he he he.... We'll it's really awesome to see the site. Too many busy workers at the site and they themselves are excited also about the project as a lot of them are using the PNR as their best transportation choice to Laguna. Some of them are squatter's... wow!!! it's so amazing..

Guys, im sorry I couldn't take any photos of the Tutuban Station. Maybe next time. :)

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 07:16 AM

Octopus card?

What is badly needed for the Phils is an integrated ticketing system with transfers available directly between all rail, bus and LRT/MRT services.
No more individual ticket purchases would speed things up, while timetable coordination and removal of service duplication would be a HUGE improvement for public transportation in the Phils.

Ultimately you can have the latest ticketing system, with gold printed tickets and electronic sales. But it all means nothing if it isn't usable across all transport and this transport all made to work together.

Brad

^^ Yup that's more efficient. yes, when Im in Japan, I just both this JR card and not only JR trains you can ride but also buses and even taxis. It works just like a credit card.... yewww!!!:)

alcogoodwin

October 24th, 2007, 07:21 AM

^^ Hi, Brad, wow!!! ha ha ha... Thanks for the appreciation. By the way, you can use the pictures for the PRHS website. I love it to be displayed there and also it for all of us here. By 1st week of November, Il be coming back again to Manila but this time Il be prepared... Il be bringing my video cp and digital camera. I suppose to take a shots along the Sucat to Alabang but I was a little affraid and having concentrations to the markings set by the NHA as boundary.

Anyway, Im very much glad that Southrail begins its initial phase. This week, Engineers and Hanjin workers are scheduled to groundbreak at the Sta. Mesa and Pandacan Bridge as informed by one of the Hanjin workers in Buendia Site. He said they are divided into three groups, the other one at the Paco Stations and Vito Cruz Station...:banana:

Thanks mate. I will be updating the websites soon so these will be very handy.

Is this Hanjin company related to the container freight company of the same name? You always see their name plastered over (blue?) containers.

Brad

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 07:21 AM

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 07:27 AM

Thanks mate. I will be updating the websites soon so these will be very handy.

Is this Hanjin company related to the container freight company of the same name? You always see their name plastered over (blue?) containers.

Brad

^^ Your welcome mate!!! Nice if there are new updates and I will always update this site for new photos and informations and you can also use it at PRHS and www.lagunarailways.org.ph.

Wow!!! Talking about this site, its really informative.. Because of this website, I learned a lot about the Canlubang Railways and the ICTSC Container Spool Terminal at Cabuyao...Actually it was a sort of a siding along the mainline south at Cabuya..

Ha ha ha... Before Im kind of lost of tracing it at the Google Earth. I taught it was located at the wide lot portion near the South Expressway.. He he he... :bash:

alcogoodwin

October 24th, 2007, 07:28 AM

^^ Yup that's more efficient. yes, when Im in Japan, I just both this JR card and not only JR trains you can ride but also buses and even taxis. It works just like a credit card.... yewww!!!:)

It would certainly be a huge hurdle, but not impossible.
Would certainly be a huge challange for a government. Probably have to begin at a start of a term so as to ensure its done before the next person moves in.
Its awesome to think what could be achieved with a bit of transport planning there. It could result in much less busy roads etc.

Brad

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 07:30 AM

Thanks mate. I will be updating the websites soon so these will be very handy.

Is this Hanjin company related to the container freight company of the same name? You always see their name plastered over (blue?) containers.

Brad

^^ Ahh , from what I know, these containers we see in everywhere might be owned by the Hanjin Heavy Industries. It might be exclusive for company's use only. Because Hanjin also build ships and infrastructure. Maybe these containers are their way of bringing parts and container for their logistics, everything are for company's usage only...

alcogoodwin

October 24th, 2007, 07:32 AM

^^ Your welcome mate!!! Nice if there are new updates and I will always update this site for new photos and informations and you can also use it at PRHS and www.lagunarailways.org.ph.

Wow!!! Talking about this site, its really informative.. Because of this website, I learned a lot about the Canlubang Railways and the ICTSC Container Spool Terminal at Cabuyao...Actually it was a sort of a siding along the mainline south at Cabuya..

Ha ha ha... Before Im kind of lost of tracing it at the Google Earth. I taught it was located at the wide lot portion near the South Expressway.. He he he... :bash:

Yep Jaime has done a really good job on that site. His historical research and contacts are fantastic.
Never met him yet, but hope to do as such when I get back there next.

Brad

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 07:35 AM

It would certainly be a huge hurdle, but not impossible.
Would certainly be a huge challange for a government. Probably have to begin at a start of a term so as to ensure its done before the next person moves in.
Its awesome to think what could be achieved with a bit of transport planning there. It could result in much less busy roads etc.

Brad

^^ And we can even reduced the traffic build up especially in the suburbs of Metro Manila. If you can only come here and see the South Expressway, oh my goodness, you won't believe... It's really a chaotic scence, lots and lots of traffic with the simulaneous construction of the Skyway Extension from Bicutan to Alabang, the South Expressway Widening, the Nichols Super Interchange and the C5 Expressway plus the squatter demolitions along the portion of Sucat.... tssskkkkk!!!!

I just taught that if only they finished the Linkage Project, we would have no problem.

alcogoodwin

October 24th, 2007, 07:38 AM

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 07:40 AM

Yep Jaime has done a really good job on that site. His historical research and contacts are fantastic.
Never met him yet, but hope to do as such when I get back there next.

Brad

^^ I would love to meet these people also, but my busy time really doesn't warrant it, at least for a while. We'll everytime I hook on these tread, I also browse the PHRS and www.lagunarailways.org.ph regularly... I hope can come here at least in the inagural of the Linkage 1 Project.. he he he... Maybe PGMA, wants to finished it imediately round the clock because of the severe traffic at the metro. We'll actually I've seen them working round the clock as the bus im riding going to Bicol happened to pass by at the site... he he he....

alcogoodwin

October 24th, 2007, 07:41 AM

I just taught that if only they finished the Linkage Project, we would have no problem.

It would be nice, though while the new railway will attract many new passengers, it needs to really attract a huge amount of people off the roads to make a big impact.
I truly hope it can.

Brad

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 07:51 AM

It would be nice, though while the new railway will attract many new passengers, it needs to really attract a huge amount of people off the roads to make a big impact.
I truly hope it can.

Brad

^^ We'll, it mus really warrant a huge riding patronage, but surely it can. On my PNR ride, there are so many passengers some are standing and I was surprised, I taught it was weekdays, it's Saturday pala.. he he he.... I talked to one of the passengers and ask why he like to take trains. He said "riding train doesn't take long time to reach in my destination". He also noted of the very cheap fare compared to Buses. The fare is so cheap that the conductor charge me P15 only from Caloocan to Alabang.. wow!!!

He also said that more passengers will take the train if they will remove squatters and buy more trains for faster and reliable service.

bagel

October 24th, 2007, 07:51 AM

^^ Ahh , from what I know, these containers we see in everywhere might be owned by the Hanjin Heavy Industries. It might be exclusive for company's use only. Because Hanjin also build ships and infrastructure. Maybe these containers are their way of bringing parts and container for their logistics, everything are for company's usage only...

Hanjin is what you can call a chaeobol from Korea-- a huge conglomerate that participates in several vertical industries... They have interests in container shipping transportation logistics, transportation infrastructure, heavy industrial construction, among others. You see their containers as far as the USA (along the likes of Evergreen from Taiwan).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanjin_Group

They have several subsidiaries listed in the Korean stock index.
* Hanjin Heavy Industries & Construction (KRXS: 003480)
* Hanjin Shipping (KRXS: 000700) --- the 7th largest container shipping company in the world
* Hanjin Transportation (KRXS: 002320)
* Korea Airport Service (KRXS: 005430)
* Korean Air (KRXS: 003490)
* Meritz Investment Bank (KRXS: 012420)

Other subsidiaries, not listed in the stock market:
* Cyber Logitec
* Meritz Fire & Marine Insurance
* Hanil Country Club/Hanil Leisure
* Hanjin Information System & Telecommunication
* Hanjin Logistics
* Hanjin Travel Service
* Hankuk Aviation University
* Inha University
* Inha University Hospital
* Jeongseok Education Foundation
* Jeongseok Enterprise
* KAL Catering
* Keoyang Shipping
* Korea Engineering Consultant
* Korean French Banking
* Senator Lines
* TOPAS-Total Passenger Service System
* TRAXON-Global Logistics System Korea

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 07:56 AM

Hanjin is what you can call a chaeobol from Korea-- a huge conglomerate that participates in several vertical industries... They have interests in container shipping, heavy industrial manufacturing and heavy construction. You see their containers as far as the USA (along the likes of Evergreen from Taiwan).

^^ wow!! Thanks bagel for the information.. Just like the Cosco, they have this huge shipping and container business. Maybe this container service are subsidize by Hanjin Heavy Industries.. Nice info bagel, thanks a lot!!!

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 07:58 AM

^^ So the responsible for the construction of the North and South Link 1 is the Hanjin Heavy Industries and Construction ....:banana:

bagel

October 24th, 2007, 08:02 AM

Yeah I guess. Weren't they also responsible for MRT2? So they have a great track record for quality work in Philippine mass transportation. That MRT2 is so well made compared to MRT4.

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 08:05 AM

Yeah I guess. Weren't they also responsible for MRT2? So they have a great track record for quality work in Philippine mass transportation. That MRT2 is so well made compared to MRT4.

^^ Yeah!!! I knew it.. he he he.... because the time they constructed the LRT2, im still studying in Manila and I always pass by along the LRT2 line so I can see how they are building the massive columns for the elevated section. Hanjin works it well and infact the design is really hightech and clean..

dreamtime07

October 24th, 2007, 11:43 AM

Support MINDANAO RAILWAY:banana::banana:

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 12:36 PM

:banana::banana:MINDANAO RAILWAYS:banana::banana:

Mindanao Railways Phase 1 Section 1
(Cagayan De Oro to Iligan City)

Type of Service: Commuter, Container and Cargo
Trackage Legth: 80km Partially Elevated and Partially Ground Levelled
Tracks: Double Track (Standard Gauge) 1454mm
No. of Stations: ?
No. of Depot: 1

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2113/1726589872_0473ee8504_o.jpg

el_dasik_oo1

October 24th, 2007, 12:41 PM

WoS: I was at Buendia station kanina. I took some pictures but it turns out bad. :lol: pero it is looking great. :D

el_dasik_oo1

October 24th, 2007, 12:44 PM

What? They let you inside the building already?
Streeeewth not even an engineers inspection or anything? Surely this would take quite a few days.

Brad

Glorietta is business as usual at that time but the Glorietta 2 is closed. Anyway, they have closed it today because of building inspections. I don't know when will they open it.

wheel of steel

October 24th, 2007, 02:09 PM

WoS: I was at Buendia station kanina. I took some pictures but it turns out bad. :lol: pero it is looking great. :D

:banana: Hi there my friend, ahem...It doesn't matter whether it's too bad or too really bad, the important is you post it na... not 2m but now... he he he he... Joks!!! What was there today my friend at Buendia Stn. ? Any updates...

hiiamdib

October 25th, 2007, 04:19 AM

^^ this is great. Please support rail transportation modes.

kalbongdad

October 25th, 2007, 06:18 AM

WoS: I was at Buendia station kanina. I took some pictures but it turns out bad. :lol: pero it is looking great. :D

post mo na wag mo na kaming bitinin....baka sumakit puson namin....

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 06:51 AM

Glorietta is business as usual at that time but the Glorietta 2 is closed. Anyway, they have closed it today because of building inspections. I don't know when will they open it.

^^ I post you na please!!!

el_dasik_oo1

October 25th, 2007, 08:19 AM

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 08:27 AM

WoS, KalbongDad: Sorry guys. Ok lang sana ipost kung langit at yung signage ng Makro ang topic dito. Ang hirap ng pasimpleng kumukuha ng pic eh. :lol: Anyway, I will be back at Buendia Station tomorrow. Hope that I'll be able to get a good shot of it. :)

^^ ha ha ha... ok lang po yun.... Promise mo yun ha, 2m.... :bash: he he he....:) Kahit konti lang plus konting imformation sa status ok na.

I think el, mgsstart na sila siguro sa bandang Sta. Mesa as I've heard from my friend that they are poolling their heavy equipments to be used in replacing and raising of the Pandacan Raiwaly Bridge. I think guys, based on his statement, the new bridge seems to wider than the old one. I don't know how many tracks will they lay there. :)

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 08:29 AM

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 08:34 AM

^^ Actually guys, what I've seen there at the Pasig River along the Sta. Mesa Section is that Manilad is nearing completion of its pipe relocation though the Major Pipe that crosses the Pasig River is still there. Im not sure if it still working but it is supposedly removed now. tssskkkk... Kasi yung major pipes nila crossess some portions of PNR Tracks. They should finished it by the time the construction of tracks starts. It's chaotic and dangerous to work while the new tracks is still there. Another reason probably why it took so long before Hanjin Boys finally started the Sta. Mesa Station.

el_dasik_oo1

October 25th, 2007, 08:44 AM

^^ Ako, may technique dyan sa pasimpleng pagkuha ng picture!!!...

Sa Pandacan? teka.. Paging Kaelthas! picture update pleas. :lol:

Anong technique? Mali nga nagawa ko eh.. Napataas kasi masyado yung ginawa ko. eh napadaan lang kasi ako sa station na yun. :D

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 08:44 AM

^^ Guys I coudn't help myself analysing what's going in near the vacant lot at Sta. Mesa. They are installing enourmous amount of concrete piles. It's too dense and I can't really figure it out what amount of load warrant's these no. concrete piles. They are all concentrated inside the red thick line box..

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2177/1740093185_5dae8aaad6_o.jpg

I suspect that Meralco will put up large post, sort of metal made quite big. Remember those electric posts along the PNR Sta. Mesa. They must also relocate it as requested by PNR. What do you think guys?

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 08:48 AM

Sa Pandacan? teka.. Paging Kaelthas! picture update pleas. :lol:

Anong technique? Mali nga nagawa ko eh.. Napataas kasi masyado yung ginawa ko. eh napadaan lang kasi ako sa station na yun. :D

^^ Just take a shot but kunyari nakatingin you sa iba. Tsamba lang kungbaga.. he he he... But you must check it before you leave. Some pictures are not that good because tsamba nga lang. When I went to that area kasi kunyari pasahero ako ng Tren so obviously I can go inside the station.

el_dasik_oo1

October 25th, 2007, 09:05 AM

^^nyahaha. ganun nga ginawa ko kahapon. kaso konti lang nakuhanan ko. dami ko kasi dala at that time tapos naulan pa.

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 09:21 AM

^^nyahaha. ganun nga ginawa ko kahapon. kaso konti lang nakuhanan ko. dami ko kasi dala at that time tapos naulan pa.

^^ Ok na yun... kahit konti lang ok na.. Really the best way to do it is to get closer to the station like what I did. What I can't do is to take a shot from inside the train. Taking a shot thru C.P. is also another option since it would apper your just calling or texting.

Next time, I suggest you ride on the train with your C.P. ready to take shots. Or use necklace and suspend your C.P. with video recording open and hide it with a small back or belt back. In this case you will have a control of it.

pau_p1

October 25th, 2007, 11:44 AM

wow.. I hope this pushes through.. Mindanao being a big land mass indeed need this railway system to connect its cities....

hmmm so this will only connect Iligan and CDO?... hmmm I hope they'd do a circumferential railways to connect the northern Mindanao cities with the southern ones...

GearX

October 25th, 2007, 12:06 PM

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x287/GearX_2007/another/MINDA.gif

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 01:05 PM

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x287/GearX_2007/another/MINDA.gif

Wow!!! Ang galing naman. Thanks GearX.. Did you just draw this. Ang galing and how did you do it that fast. Gumamit you ba ng adobe photoshop. Very colorful ang dating. In my post, I just find a map and edited it with the Paint..

Galing.... :banana:

alcogoodwin

October 25th, 2007, 01:09 PM

^^ And we can even reduced the traffic build up especially in the suburbs of Metro Manila. If you can only come here and see the South Expressway, oh my goodness, you won't believe... .

Believe me, I have seen it.
Wow, quite scary at times. After a fewtrips down there I am ready for a :cheers:

Brad

alcogoodwin

October 25th, 2007, 01:11 PM

^The fare is so cheap that the conductor charge me P15 only from Caloocan to Alabang.. wow!!!

.

Similar journey here would cost about P350 :(

Brad

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 01:12 PM

Believe me, I have seen it.
Wow, quite scary at times. After a fewtrips down there I am ready for a :cheers:

Brad

Hi there Brad, yup, another Tanduay, he he he... Wow!!! It looks like our railway projects are alreay underway. But this is awesome, the Calamba Station in the Lagunarailways.com. Wow!!! It's amazing to see this pictures. It means that Calamba Station is really a big station down south.. Did you see it also Brad at Laguna Railways.com..

Id like to thank those people who posted it. Thanks a lot.

alcogoodwin

October 25th, 2007, 01:13 PM

Hanjin is what you can call a chaeobol from Korea-- a huge conglomerate that participates in several vertical industries... They have interests in container shipping transportation logistics, transportation infrastructure, heavy industrial construction, among others. You see their containers as far as the USA (along the likes of Evergreen from Taiwan).

Thanks dude, certainly a huge business concern.
Far bigger than I expected.

Brad

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 01:14 PM

Similar journey here would cost about P350 :(

Brad

^^ ha ha ha.. Almost 20x the fare but it is as scary as you expected it. :) But anyway our railways will be modernize soon, even if we pay her P50, it's still cheap since by that time buses fare from Caloocan to Alabang would be something in the P60. And not only that the time is really a factor because the trains can only travel that for 45min...

alcogoodwin

October 25th, 2007, 01:15 PM

Glorietta is business as usual at that time but the Glorietta 2 is closed. Anyway, they have closed it today because of building inspections. I don't know when will they open it.

OK thanks.
As sad as it still is, I am glad it does not seem to be an act of terrorism. At least people can rest a little easier again.

Brad

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 01:16 PM

Thanks dude, certainly a huge business concern.
Far bigger than I expected.

Brad

^^ Yup, infact these container services of Hanjin are well known in many countries. I hope it was also included in the negotiated deal between the Korean and Philippine government in their railroad deal and hoping it would spur business in our country...

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 01:18 PM

OK thanks.
As sad as it still is, I am glad it does not seem to be an act of terrorism. At least people can rest a little easier again.

Brad

^^ Il bet you Brad, It is only the media here that makes the situation and hard and worst.. Tssskkk.. actually they want to create bad news and make chaos so that they have something totally bad to be reported and make money. Politician pay them inorder to destroy reputation of other politician. In turn, media is really not a good example here and does not promote peace...:ohno:

alcogoodwin

October 25th, 2007, 01:18 PM

alcogoodwin

October 25th, 2007, 01:19 PM

Oct 25, 2007

THE Supreme Court has ordered the Philippine National Railways to pay P172,000 to the family of a man who died after his car was hit by a PNR train 15 years ago in Pandacan, Manila .

In an 11-page decision, the SC’s Third Division affirmed the ruling of the Court of Appeals on March 31, 2003 which held that the death of Jose Amores was due to PNR’s negligence to put up precautionary measures to warn motorists crossing its railroad tracks.

The SC established that PNR and its train driver, Virgilio Borja, were negligent when the collision took place on April 27, 1992.

The Court noted that the only visible warning at that time was the defective signboard “Stop, Look and Listen.” By: Hector Lawas

alcogoodwin

October 25th, 2007, 01:20 PM

^^ Il bet you Brad, It is only the media here that makes the situation and hard and worst.. Tssskkk.. actually they want to create bad news and make chaos so that they have something totally bad to be reported and make money. Politician pay them inorder to destroy reputation of other politician. In turn, media is really not a good example here and does not promote peace...:ohno:

Absolutely.

This explosion being a sad accident only sells papers for a week.
The threat of more terrorism will help sell papers for months.
Very sad but very true

Brad

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 01:24 PM

You mean that big pipe next to the Pandacan bridge is to be removed??? :banana:

Yeeehhaarrr, finally some good photos of trains with the Pasig behind.

Brad

^^ Yup, im totally sure about it Brad, because the last time I went there this Saturday only, I made a stop and ask one of their laborer about what's going on in that area. He said they are trying to divert a big pipe supposedly (the subject here) because the space will be used by Hanjin. Sort of things like that made wonder again why there's is a huge pile driving work beside it. It's really numerous piles that it is impossible to be a building or any huge plant.

The one with a red rectangle box if you can see on my post is really awesome and intriguing.. He he he We'lll anyway the question is, was it again the new foundation of the pipe to be removed? Well I guess... yes... because there is no other means to avoid the PNR right of way but to build right next to it and beside the row....

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 01:26 PM

wheel of steel

October 25th, 2007, 01:39 PM

^^ got to go for a while guys.... see you tommorrow!!! GOOD NIGHT TO ALL :banana::banana:

harley

October 26th, 2007, 05:56 AM

ah parang bus pala pag sumakay ng PNR? may conductor?

@brad
you maybe wanna try other Pinoy drinks. empi (emperador) and grandma (gran matador) if you like drinking Brandy.

Is it really true that if Tanduay is dried using sunlight it turns into plastic?

wheel of steel

October 26th, 2007, 06:53 AM

^^ Ahhh!!! You exactly right about it... We'll PNR has to maintain this to serve passengers patronizing the PNR. I think, their revenue now goes for just for employees and small maintenance for the trains... including the salary of the conductors.

wheel of steel

October 26th, 2007, 09:58 AM

^^ Hi el_dasik... How your update about Buendia Station. Did you take the shots already. Hope you've got a closer shots.. Thanks.... :)

tough

October 26th, 2007, 10:27 AM

Cities And Towns
London-based company to finance feasibility study of Mindanao railway project
By
Oct 24, 2007 - 9:12:43 AM

DAVAO CITY, Oct. 25 (PNA) -- The intention of MCC Capital Projects, Ltd., based in London, to finance the feasibility study of the Mindanao Railway Project highlighted the 21 business ventures sealed between and among investors during the business matching at the Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines-East ASEAN Growth Area (BIMP-EAGA) Investment Conference (iCon) Tuesday.

BIMP-EAGA Business Council (BEBC) chair Antonio Santos in his report to the BIMP-EAGA 15th Senior Officials Meeting (SOM) held at the Marco Polo, Davao said Mindanao Business Council (MinBC) chair Vicente Lao and Faisal Kasim MCC chief executive officer discussed the mechanisms of the said business venture.

The Mindanao Railway is a priority project of the Arroyo administration.

According to Santos, Lao has proposed that the project will be undertaken under a BOT scheme.

Kasim for his part suggested entering into a joint venture agreement with the concerned local government units.

Both parties have agreed that the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) will assist in convening the local government units (LGUs) to put forward the possibility of forming a corporation which can go into a 60-40 percent partnership agreement with MCC Capital, with the LGUs having the majority stake.

By end of October, documentary requirements will be facilitated afterwhich, survey will be conducted by MCC Capital engineers on November.

MCC Capital together with Amerint Company based in Manila also displayed interest to undertake the development of Hijo Port Town of the Hijo Resource Corporation.

Amerint Company has committed to infuse million to fund the big-ticket projects of the Hijo Port Town.

MCC Capital, on the other hand, is eyeing to develop the Apo Industrial Estate, Port and Housing Development. The company already visited the site on the day after the discussion, Santos said.

Santos said there were a total of 28 projects listed for business matching during the BIMP iCon, however only 21 were the subject of discussions and business partnerships.

The said projects discussed by proponents were in the areas of transport, infrastructure, development, mining, agriculture and trading.

The projects include the following: Mindanao Railway Project, Development of Hijo Port Town, Housing Development in Zamboanga, hotel/resort development, coal mining, mining, rubber, coconut derivatives such as coco oil, motor oil desiccated coconut, Jatropha (biodiesel, Jathropa research center), seaweeds, processed seafoods, goat raising and prawn farm development.

The 28 listed projects include the areas of Natural Resource Development Cluster, four for tourism development, and seven for transport, infra and communication.

Santos said there were buyer-supplier requirement with 19 suppliers looking for buyers, and six buyers looking for suppliers. A total of 15 projects were listed for technical assistance and nine for financing assistance.

There were 16 institutional exhibitors which joined the BIMP Icon including Brunei Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade, three from Indonesia from North Sulawesi province, West Papua province, and East Kalimantan province, two from Malaysia such as Malaysian Industrial Development Authority and POIC Sdn Bhd and eight from the Philippines such as Board of Investments, enterprise challenge fund, Davao City Investment and Promotion Center, Surigao City local government, Philippine-EAGA NRD cluster, BFAR Mariculture Park, World Ocean Summit and Philippine Mining Development Corporation.

Santos said a total of 263 delegates participated in the major BIMP-EAGA event. (PNA)

Positive News Media (http://www.positivenewsmedia.net/am2/publish/Cities_And_Towns_23/London-based_company_to_finance_feasibility_study_of_Mindanao_railway_project_printer.shtml)

tough

October 26th, 2007, 10:38 AM

British company eyes M’nao railway system
By Carmelito Q. Francisco Published : 2007-10-24

A BRITISH COMPANY is looking into funding the feasibility study and eventual construction of the Mindanao Railway System under the build-operate-transfer scheme.

Based on initial reports obtained during the business matching activity during the BIMP-EAGA (Brunei-Indonesia-Malaysia-Philippines-East Asean Growth Area) Investment Conference, Faisal Kasim, chief executive officer of the MCC Capital Projects Inc., met with Chair Vicente Lao of the Mindanao Business Council during the business matching activity to discuss the proposal.

The initial reports said Lao even proposed to Kasim that his company build the project in a build-operate-transfer scheme. However, Kasim proposed that in setting up the project, it is looking into possibly coming up with a joint venture agreement with local government units that the system will serve.

This prompted the representatives of the Trade department to propose that the agency convene these local government units to discuss with them the proposal. The agency even proposed that the local government units form a corporation and partner with Kasim’s company in a 60-40 percent partnership, with the local government units getting the biggest slice of the investment.

“Documentary requirements are being facilitated by end-October to pave the way for the conduct of the survey by MCC Capital Projects Ltd. engineers come November 2007,” the report said.

The Mindanao Times tried to contact Lao on this, but he did not return the call and the text messages. As chair of the local business council, he was to report the proposal during the closing event of the two day meeting, an information from the organizers revealed.

This writer also tried to talk with Kasim, who met with an official of the Trade department, but he begged off to talk about it, saying nothing is final yet.

The proposal to set up a railway in Mindanao was first announced when then President Fidel Ramos

The report said this was the biggest highlight of the event on Tuesday as there were 15 other projects discussed, although the initial reports did not mention the companies involved.

Other projects discussed were a development of a port in Davao del Norte, a housing project in Zamboanga City, a coal mining project, another mining project, rubber plantation, development of coconut derivatives, development of jathropa plantation, seaweeds, seafood processing and goat raising.

The report, however, did not identify the companies involved in the projects and did not name the areas that these will be implemented.

The proposal to set up a railway in Mindanao was first announced when then President Fidel Ramos first visited Davao City as president of the country on July 15, 1992. However, not much has been done since then.

Mindanao Times (http://www.mindanaotimes.com.ph/story.php?id=18348)

tough

October 26th, 2007, 10:47 AM

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z50/tough_bucket/MindanaoRailway.jpg

NEDA (http://www.neda.gov.ph/odamon/ProjectProfile.asp?ProjectId=1171)

kaelthas18

October 26th, 2007, 03:59 PM

if only the pnr is rich and supported by the gov't , i proposed that all station must have automatic ticket barriers to avoid the increasing ticket evasion of some passengers...:bash:

kaelthas18

October 26th, 2007, 04:03 PM

i have a vid last oct 24 ,2007 while passing the espana station facing welcome rotonda at españa blvd., still no change at all.. and increasing squatters again.

EXtFuBIxr5g

in my pc the video is clear, but when i uploaded it on youtube, it compresses it, thats why the quality of the vids that i had uploaded in the past months were poor quality and pixelated. =(

alcogoodwin

October 27th, 2007, 12:32 AM

^^ Yup, im totally sure about it Brad, because the last time I went there this Saturday only, I made a stop and ask one of their laborer about what's going on in that area. He said they are trying to divert a big pipe supposedly (the subject here) because the space will be used by Hanjin. Sort of things like that made wonder again why there's is a huge pile driving work beside it. It's really numerous piles that it is impossible to be a building or any huge plant. .

Great stuff.
I had long wanted to use that Pandacan bridge and threw a few curse words at that pipeline on seeing it. Ruins a very good shot :(

Brad

alcogoodwin

October 27th, 2007, 12:39 AM

@brad
you maybe wanna try other Pinoy drinks. empi (emperador) and grandma (gran matador) if you like drinking Brandy.

Is it really true that if Tanduay is dried using sunlight it turns into plastic?

Hi Harley,
I have promised a friend who works for San Mig that I will give their rum a chance the next time I am there.
The Tanduay is a great drop, it has become a firm fave with all the Aussies here in Sydney. Sadly this means I forever have to hide my stocks as it goes missing every time they come over.

Not sure if it turns to plastic. Are you serious?? I shall have to give it a try.
One thing I only learn't recently is that it (like other alcohols) can't be frozen. I now keep a bottle in the freezer and it become ice cold without going hard. I do notice there is a little thickness to it, but it returns to normal as soon as some Coke is added.

Oooohhhhhhhhh :cheers1: :master: TANDUAY

Cheers
Brad
** Heard the latest bad news last night regarding the PAL plane accident. At least all survived. As if the Glorietta explosion wasnt bad enough.

alcogoodwin

October 27th, 2007, 12:41 AM

i have a vid last oct 24 ,2007 while passing the espana station facing welcome rotonda at españa blvd., still no change at all.. and increasing squatters again.

in my pc the video is clear, but when i uploaded it on youtube, it compresses it, thats why the quality of the vids that i had uploaded in the past months were poor quality and pixelated. =(

There fine mate and much enjoyed.

Brad

alcogoodwin

October 27th, 2007, 12:46 AM

alcogoodwin

October 27th, 2007, 12:49 AM

http://jftiongson.googlepages.com/PRHSBylaws.pdf

kaelthas18

October 27th, 2007, 02:34 AM

http://jftiongson.googlepages.com/PRHSBylaws.pdf

wow a proposed bill.. hahaha.. nice, galing ng gumawa..:)

kaelthas18

October 27th, 2007, 02:39 AM

...

^^ Absolutely they will raise the platform in such a way that all type of passengers can easily access the door of the train without leaping. Just like what we see in the LRT and MRT.. The railroad also will be raised since more ballast will be put in place and that the new rail is quite bigger than we currently use.

At first I couldn't believe that the final platform is 3ft above the current one.. I think the trains will be standardized and completely a 4 car DMU formation.

so ilan ang height ng proposed platform?.. db ngaun irregular ang mga height, sa pandacan mababa, tpos sa paco, nako parang basua... kabababa ..hay..

kaelthas18

October 27th, 2007, 02:41 AM

so if the pnr is extending its row, then ung basketball court sa may temporary paco e matatanggal?.. kc db mlpit ung columns nya sa may wall tbi ng steel platform?..

kaelthas18

October 27th, 2007, 02:53 AM

^^ Ngayong ko lang naiintidahan ng lubusan na talagang makipot ang daan sa EDSA and that Engineers has no option but to take the trams as the best train. Trams can easily bend since in every 10 meters of it's body there's is a pivot that makes them move like a centipede. The only option we've got is to increase the trains by doubling it's length. In this way, many passengers can take a ride on one time.

ung analysis at study nla sa edsa mrt sa tingin ko tinipid, substandard ang ibang mechanical equipments e, escalators to utilities, at lalo na ang stairs, not very welcoming pa lalo na sa mga bagong passengers, look at wat happen sa mga exit ways nla ang sikip pababa.., magallanes station napaka sikip when rush hour, pati nrin guadalupe,e kung space lng kulang nla, y did the gov't didn't bought those lands.. tska ung pagkakadesign nla ng stations e may palpak din, "y u will build a column sa malapit na mismo sa platform edge?".. minsan when i ride mrt natatpat ako sa column e, tuloy hirap makalabas kc naguumpukan mga tao e wla pa ata lagpas 1 mtr e, ang liitl liit pa ng width ng train, i hope pnr ang sasagot sa lahat ng mga kakulangan ng mga metros ntin at lalo na ang mga buses when it comes to long distance travel..

matanong ko lng, ung dMU ba nag-eemit din ng smoke the one northrails's going to use..? db wla na xa locomotive?and ilan din ang prefered elevation ng isang train, for example paakyat sa isang viaduct?.. ok lng ba na mglagay ako ng arched-roof sa tutuban terminal to make it decent?.. as like to St. pancras, waterloo tsaka NY grand station and other station terminals in the world.?... kc ang purpose ko tlaga e , malinis, efficient at confortable sa mga ssakay ng tren. Last night have u guys watch maaLa Ala Mo KAya?... ung emu train sa Spain sumabog nung 2004 madrid bombing..haha pero infairness ha blis ng trains

kaelthas18

October 27th, 2007, 03:06 AM

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 03:54 AM

frm WOS
I think, the reason why MRT3 and LRT1 came up to this "Baby Train" is that these trams can easily negotiate in a very sharp curve, unlike Mega Tren, they carefully designed the line in such a way that trains could smoothly pass in sharp curves. In other words, we really don't have an option but to accept this fact since EDSA and Taft Ave. by that time the LRT1 and MRT3 was being built has so many infrastructure to avoid already like those giant flyovers and narrow median lane of EDSA and Taft Ave..

basta ako i had different call names sa mga lrt natin haha, metro 1 metro 2 metro 3... haha. i dont care what dotc-metro star and the lrta difference, basta i wll call it Metro "yellow", "blue" .. much decent e,haha

Hi Nathan!!!! Good morning to alll.. Sori friends, I've just got up.. Wow!!! It seems that its really working nice again this thread... Thank's for the video Nathan. It's really awesome. And don't worry about it for not having a change in that area. But if you will ride on the train, you will see that some of them have started packing up already. I guess it's not anymore NHA that will domolish their building soon. All I know is that MMDA will take over the job.

Have a latest update that MMDA will continue demolishing the Upper and Lower Bicutan portion of the row. I guess this will be so interesting since the MMDA has been successful in their demolition activities. Though the Senate issued a 1 month moratorium on the relocation of shunties around Metro, but railway clearing will be an exemption for them.

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 03:59 AM

if only the pnr is rich and supported by the gov't , i proposed that all station must have automatic ticket barriers to avoid the increasing ticket evasion of some passengers...:bash:

^^ Yes, surely they will implement this system. Actually the project scope is the rehabilitation of the station plus the complete installation of fences be it concrete or steel around the station premises. And also provision for the installation of concrete barricades to protect their right of way from being occupied illegally again. The MMDA on the other hand will help beautify the unoccupied surroundings of the right of way of the PNR and theres a big possiblity that they will put landscape there.

In this case, PNR ridership will increase since there are no more eyesore along their way. If theres a lot of passengers, surely it will warrant the use of automated ticketing system.

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 04:05 AM

Great stuff.
I had long wanted to use that Pandacan bridge and threw a few curse words at that pipeline on seeing it. Ruins a very good shot :(

Brad

^^ Hi Brad, good day, I guess your wish will be granted soon.. he he he.. Together riding with a train full packed with nice, young and lovely ladies, wow you can surely throw a lot of curse words there.. he he he...:banana:

GearX

October 27th, 2007, 04:41 AM

Wow!!! Ang galing naman. Thanks GearX.. Did you just draw this. Ang galing and how did you do it that fast. Gumamit you ba ng adobe photoshop. Very colorful ang dating. In my post, I just find a map and edited it with the Paint..

Galing.... :banana:

got it from a NEDA R-X presentation....^^

alcogoodwin

October 27th, 2007, 05:02 AM

^^ Hi Brad, good day, I guess your wish will be granted soon.. he he he.. Together riding with a train full packed with nice, young and lovely ladies, wow you can surely throw a lot of curse words there.. he he he...:banana:

No curse words thrown around a train full of mahanda Pinays. I am sure they would not be impressed :-)

Brad

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 05:39 AM

http://jftiongson.googlepages.com/PRHSBylaws.pdf

^^ Nice!!!! very nice!!!!:applause:

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 05:41 AM

so ilan ang height ng proposed platform?.. db ngaun irregular ang mga height, sa pandacan mababa, tpos sa paco, nako parang basua... kabababa ..hay..

^^ We'll as i've seen and informed at the construction site, it seems that the new height there is approximately 3feet from the current platform. I guess this warrant the use of modern trains as our old system need to leap before getting inside the train.

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 05:46 AM

Upon transfer, who would it go to?
I suppose the PNR, who has the actual mandate to run heavy rail trains in the Phils, could operate it but the gauge difference would not lend itself to intersystem transfer of stock as was done between the systems on Luzon and Panay in the past.

Brad

Hi Brad, yup they are planning to set up a standard rail gaue railways here in Mindanao. Although there is a possibity that all Philippine Islands will be interconnected by tunnels and subways, still we need to address how it's gonna be? I hope that extreme consideration must be planned in order to arrive in a seamless interconnection train ride between Luzon, Samar, Leyte, Surigao and eventually Mindanao islands.. :banana:

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 05:49 AM

Upon transfer, who would it go to?
I suppose the PNR, who has the actual mandate to run heavy rail trains in the Phils, could operate it but the gauge difference would not lend itself to intersystem transfer of stock as was done between the systems on Luzon and Panay in the past.

Brad

^^ Unless otherwise specified in the contract and agreement, it can be operated by another company say Mindanao Railway Corporation, stuff like that. Buy I always assume that it is still a PNR project with different operating gauge so the PNR as mandated by law should be the main operator.

el_dasik_oo1

October 27th, 2007, 06:02 AM

As promised I was able to take pics of the Buendia station.. With some bonus.. :D

Guessing game

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/542/guessyj6.jpg
I'm gonna test your rail knowledge.. Do you know where this is? :D

Ladies and Ladies, The Buendia Station

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6209/buendiastationti5.jpg

Pasay Road Station, Magallanes Station and A station that I forgot its name :lol:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1327/randomstationam6.jpg

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 06:04 AM

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 06:08 AM

As promised I was able to take pics of the Buendia station.. With some bonus.. :D

Guessing game

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/542/guessyj6.jpg
I'm gonna test your rail knowledge.. Do you know where this is? :D

hmmmm..... teka!!! hmmmm....ahhhhhh!!!! Sa Carmona.... di ba.. along South Superhighway bridge, underneath it is the Carmona Branch Line..... :banana::banana::banana:

Yeheeey!!!! Panalo ako.... ha ha ha, may utang ka sakin ng isang update sa Bicutan Relocation.... he he he.....:lol::lol::lol:

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 06:19 AM

^^ wow!!! Big changes already took place since I visited it 1 week ago.. See those hollowblocks guys, actually mas taller pa dyan yung final elevation of platform.

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 06:34 AM

so if the pnr is extending its row, then ung basketball court sa may temporary paco e matatanggal?.. kc db mlpit ung columns nya sa may wall tbi ng steel platform?..

^^ Oo naman, sure they will removed it. It should be cleared from whatever structures inside the 30 meters right of way. Even the 5 story bldg. Pabahay sa riles. Actually more rails will be put not only two or three...

ph_matrix

October 27th, 2007, 09:25 AM

It looks like there is a lot of company so interested for the said project, this is a good news... :cheers:

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 12:24 PM

^^ The next to be completely freed right of way of PNR from Nichols Interchange to Bicutan and Lower Bicutan. The line was highlighted by a red thick line. The length of the clearing is estimated to be 7km, and will be implemented my MMDA as the moratorium has finally ended. Clearing will be expected to start this October till 1 month after. Although some of the houses were already demolished this July to October period, major and final clearing will be done this month. Upon completion of the clearing operations, the new cleared line from Nichols to Lower Bicutan will be next to be prioritized by the Hanjin Construction as their construction has started already in Buendia and Pasay Stations. This line will be in addition to the 10 km existing cleared right of way from Magsaysay Ave. in Sta. Mesa to Nichols Interchange in Makati.

On the other hand, Muntinlupa section has voluntarily moving out already prior to the completion of their relocation sites inside the Bilibid Government Property. The relocation will be handled with the help of the local government. Once completed, this will add another 10 km of cleared right of way from Lower Bicutan to tip end of Muntinlupa.

The PNR will be expecting to clear the whole strech of Linkage Railway Phase 1 by end of November as they are about to start the full blast construction of the project.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2406/1772199339_a91c45df99_o.jpg

wheel of steel

October 27th, 2007, 12:27 PM

As promised I was able to take pics of the Buendia station.. With some bonus.. :D

Ladies and Ladies, The Buendia Station

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6209/buendiastationti5.jpg

^^ Seems a lot of improvements now, 1 week after i visited the construction site. They have finally removed the roofing frames. Nice Job!!!! :banana: Hanjin Boys....

wheel of steel

October 28th, 2007, 08:48 AM

ung analysis at study nla sa edsa mrt sa tingin ko tinipid, substandard ang ibang mechanical equipments e, escalators to utilities, at lalo na ang stairs, not very welcoming pa lalo na sa mga bagong passengers, look at wat happen sa mga exit ways nla ang sikip pababa.., magallanes station napaka sikip when rush hour, pati nrin guadalupe,e kung space lng kulang nla, y did the gov't didn't bought those lands.. tska ung pagkakadesign nla ng stations e may palpak din, "y u will build a column sa malapit na mismo sa platform edge?".. minsan when i ride mrt natatpat ako sa column e, tuloy hirap makalabas kc naguumpukan mga tao e wla pa ata lagpas 1 mtr e, ang liitl liit pa ng width ng train, i hope pnr ang sasagot sa lahat ng mga kakulangan ng mga metros ntin at lalo na ang mga buses when it comes to long distance travel..

matanong ko lng, ung dMU ba nag-eemit din ng smoke the one northrails's going to use..? db wla na xa locomotive?and ilan din ang prefered elevation ng isang train, for example paakyat sa isang viaduct?.. ok lng ba na mglagay ako ng arched-roof sa tutuban terminal to make it decent?.. as like to St. pancras, waterloo tsaka NY grand station and other station terminals in the world.?... kc ang purpose ko tlaga e , malinis, efficient at confortable sa mga ssakay ng tren. Last night have u guys watch maaLa Ala Mo KAya?... ung emu train sa Spain sumabog nung 2004 madrid bombing..haha pero infairness ha blis ng trains

^^ Hi, Nathan good day... The normal train width of PNR plays at 2.9m to 3m while our MRT3 and LRT1 Trains measures 2.5m to 2.6m only. The Mega Trains has also at least 3m car width. So in fairness, kayang hindi lang pasahero ang kayang ilagay sa loob ng PNR trains, pati TV at Refrigerator kayang ipasok sa loob... he he he......

tisoycuba

October 28th, 2007, 05:25 PM

wheel of steel

October 29th, 2007, 03:29 AM

thanks wheel of steel@ buti kapa very update ka talaga...minsan kasi yun ibang thread dto sila ang nang start tinamad na porke makamahirap daw!!!!thanks hah wheel of steel.sa pampanga po sir wala pa update no sir?tanong lang sir!

^^ Nice!!! tisoycuba, thanks and I really appreciate your comments.

We'll I suppose to go there at Malolos Station Construction Site and have a snap photo and video but unfortunately due to my limited time I decided to scheduled it the next time Ill be back again in Manila. We'll continous naman po ang relocation sa Pampanga sections and infact the committe that is taking care of it said that they will complete the right of way needed by the Northrail by November, so the full blast construction will definitely start on January 2008. But it doesn't mean that there's no activity at the Malolos Site, continous pa rin ang pile erection nila doon and the enbankment procedures along the line from Caloocan to Malolos. See the photos of the Malabon enbankment, actually ready for the track laying. This is the procedure being done by most of the railway projects before any major track laying commenced

I am not so sure but I think they have cleared already most parts of the Pampanga Section and they are scheduled for the full blast construction on January. The only problem before is that right of way is too narrow for the double track railway so they will have to acquire more to widen the right of way. That's the most important requirement for this line to be operated at least 160km/h of train speed.

The cost really very justifying for Northrail 1. Tingnan mo naman ang mga stations at depot, no. 1 tlaga and it's all brand new including the trains and other facilities. Compared to Linkage Project phase 1 and 2, rehabilitation lang ang gagawin although there will be track relaying and replacement, every station and other facilities have to be rehabilitated and remodelled only as agreed by contractor and PNR. The Northrail Project also involves the concrete fencing of the whole length of line by at least 3 meters in height. Although fencing will be very costly but it will assure that no more squatters will be coming back again.

wheel of steel

October 29th, 2007, 03:59 AM

^^ It really looks like CDO-Iligan is winning as the best place to invest down south. Any city with railway projects and proposal are signs of good business climate. :banana:

tisoycuba

October 29th, 2007, 04:21 AM

thanks @wheel of steel!kasi lalo na sa angeles dami na squatter sa riles eh ..

D'Watcher

October 29th, 2007, 04:39 AM

nice! no more eyesores in that part.

wheel of steel

October 29th, 2007, 04:40 AM

thanks @wheel of steel!kasi lalo na sa angeles dami na squatter sa riles eh ..

^^ Yup, another thing that delays them is the spur line from Angeles to DMIA. They will also acquire for the right of way although the line will be elevated. We'll actually the design of the Angeles Station is the same as that of the Malolos Station, elevated also.

kaelthas18

October 29th, 2007, 06:35 AM

^^ Yup, another thing that delays them is the spur line from Angeles to DMIA. They will also acquire for the right of way although the line will be elevated. We'll actually the design of the Angeles Station is the same as that of the Malolos Station, elevated also.

matanong ko lng wheel of steel, kaya b ng locomotive haul train ung aakyat sa elevated ?...

wheel of steel

October 29th, 2007, 06:43 AM

^^ Another valid and good reasons of the delays in the construction of Pandacan Railway Bridge...

This picture is along the Pandacan side. You will actually see the huge tower of Napocor along the right of way and the huge MWSS pipe. This all have to removed prior to the alignment of the new bridge. The MWSS is already in finishing stages of the pipe relocation while not much information about the tower relocation.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2268/1797438804_9ed44a0d9e_o.jpg

This is the Sta. Mesa side. This clearly shows how the Napocor, Meralco and MWSS took advantage of the previliges given by the PNR right of way for a long time.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2060/1797442686_b82c758059_o.jpg

kaelthas18

October 29th, 2007, 06:43 AM

kung ttaasan ng pnr ang mga platform, then theres the need to place a pedestrian bridge na?...and a lift para sa disabled..or a portion where the platform has a slope and becomes a level crossing..wat u think?...

kaelthas18

October 29th, 2007, 06:45 AM