Any news on the Northrail? How is the progress?

Has the station behind Starmall in Alabang been improved already?



NorthRail work delayed for the umpteenth time (http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20110407-329930/NorthRail-work-delayed-for-the-umpteenth-time)
By Paolo Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:35:00 04/07/2011


MANILA, Philippines—Work on the controversial NorthRail project again has been put on hold as the government tries to renegotiate the terms of its contract with its Chinese contractor to get even better terms.

Construction of the 80-kilometer train line, which will link Metro Manila to key provinces in Northern Luzon, has been suspended since March 28 to give way to negotiations between state-run NorthRail Corp. and Chinese company Sinoach.

“There are some sections [of the contract] where the cost is being discussed,” Transportation and Communications Undersecretary Glicerio Sicat said.

The official explained that the Department of Transportation and Communications (DoTC) wanted to look into allegations of cost overruns in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

“We are renegotiating [the contract] to find out what the right prices are, and if the government is getting the best deal,” Sicat said. He could not say when the review would be concluded.

Sicat also said the project had been delayed several times because of poor planning.

The DoTC initiated renegotiation for the project, which was supposed to be completed in 2007. The target date has now been moved to 2013.

Last year, Transportation and Communications Secretary Jose de Jesus said the cost for stage one of the project, which would run 42 kilometers from Manila to Malolos, Bulacan, was originally pegged at $421 million.

But its cost rose to $621 million after revisions were made in the contract and approved by the previous administration.

The increase in cost came about even though the scope of the project had been reduced by the Chinese contractor.

De Jesus said that even though the train line would have fewer stations than originally planned, the cost for that stage of the project still rose.

Also, with the renegotiation underway, the 2013 deadline for completion is now in doubt.

NorthRail is supposed to run 80 kilometers all the way to Clark Freeport in Pampanga.

NorthRail chairman Jose Martin Aliling heads the team that will deal with the Chinese contractor, Sicat said.

Aliling was appointed head of NorthRail, a subsidiary of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority, last January.

putang ina naman oh! and i read in another article that they're laying off workers...
what the fuck?!?!

sorry.. nasira na ang araw ko...:ohno::bash:

^^ the hell with them. Sabi na nga bat matutulog lang ang mga project ni GMA sa term ni ABnoy!! :ohno:

^^ di ko na alam kung kanino magagalit eh, kay GMA ba, oh sa Northrail, sa China, oh sa Sinomach, oh kay ABnoy ba...:cry:

ang pinagtataka ko lang, bakit may nagta-trabaho sa bulacan??:dunno: mukhang tuloy-tuloy naman daw ang paglagay ng pierheads duon sa malolos...

ang pinagtataka ko lang, bakit may nagta-trabaho sa bulacan??:dunno: mukhang tuloy-tuloy naman daw ang paglagay ng pierheads duon sa malolos...

Ano bang ibig sabihin ng "delay" ayon sa article? Maaaring tuloy pa rin ito kahit "under scrutiny" sa term ni Pnoy. Baka ganun nga, tuloy pa rin ang project pero sobrang bagal ng progress tapos nagbawas pa ng trabahador.:ohno:

here's a pic from our friend in Bulacan (william)...:)

mga kuha ko..medyo panakaw lang, sensya sa quality. :)

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as you can see, 5 piers already have a pierhead, up from three about two weeks ago... may gumagawa talaga ewan ko lang talaga kung anu ang nangyayari sa review at renegotiation...

^^Ituloy na nila ang project at wag na nilang patagalin pa ito parang awa na nila.:bash:

If you're gonna ask something for the government to accomplish, you must also do your part in order for it to be done. So bakit ayaw nyo sa fare hike but then you are asking too much from the government? :dunno:

Please think before you make proposals and don't be crap enough to present yourselves to DOTC with that senseless ideas.. Also, I do not argue with the list. But the thing is, WHERE WILL WE GET THE GODDAMN MONEY?!! :bash::banana::lol::lol:

1. Ang kawalang ng mga elevators at escalator sa mga istasyon ng Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT 1), na nilabag ang batas na nagprorprotekta sa mga persons with disability.

No law was violated because there was no law. The Magna Carta for Disabled Persons was passed well after the construction of LRT-1!

ganyan talaga ang dikit sa balat ang kakuriputan. gusto ng magarang serbisyo, pero ayaw naman magbayad ng tama. "Certified Kuripot"

maituturing din na isang simpleng kurakot ang ayaw sa fare hike. mga taong gusto na lang samsamin ang kaban ng bayan para sa sariling interes.

Tulad ng isa, wag na lang pansinin ang mga ganyang uri ng nilalang. :banana:

No law was violated because there was no law. The Magna Carta for Disabled Persons was passed well after the construction of LRT-1!

I, for one believed that Republic Act No. 7277 failed to include a provision for a retro-actively effecting clause/s. Still, I hope all agencies or institutions give more thought on what the Republic Act No. 7277 intends to provide, that is, to integrate all persons into the mainstream society by reviewing and correcting structures which hinder persons with disabilities. IMO, grandfathering laws are sometimes the causes of building failures which could have been avoided if only building administrators complied with newer regulations instead of hiding behind the idea that their building was compliant when constructed!

No law was violated because there was no law. The Magna Carta for Disabled Persons was passed well after the construction of LRT-1!

Tama pala ung sinabi ko sa LRT thread. :lol::lol:

I, for one believed that Republic Act No. 7277 failed to include a provision for a retro-actively effecting clause/s. Still, I hope all agencies or institutions give more thought on what the Republic Act No. 7277 intends to provide, that is, to integrate all persons into the mainstream society by reviewing and correcting structures which hinder persons with disabilities. IMO, grandfathering laws are sometimes the causes of building failures which could have been avoided if only building administrators complied with newer regulations instead of hiding behind the idea that their building was compliant when constructed!

Such a provision would constitute an ex post facto provision and would be unconstitutional under the 1987 Constitution.

NorthRail work delayed for the umpteenth time (http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20110407-329930/NorthRail-work-delayed-for-the-umpteenth-time)
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Kahit di natin sabihin as in madedelay talaga yan, Parang di rin sigurado kung up to 2016 tapos na ang NR. (Phase 1).:nuts::bash:

I think this present government, aside from renegotiating the terms of its contract, will also try to reduce the price of northrail. That's why they are trying soooo hard to check and verify everything when it comes to it. Ang kaso, sa sobrang bagal ng progress, lalong tataas ang price nito due to inflation, cost of materials/labor or even availability of materials. yung target nilang mababawas sa price ay wala ring patutunguhan dahil sa delay. Baka in the end pa nga.. sa sobrang pagtitipid at adjustments ay dalawang stations na lang ang ma-approve, Caloocan at Clark.

hwag naman sana....

No way! Ang laaaaaaayooooooo ng agwat!! :bash: :nuts: :nuts:

ngayon lang ako nakadinig na project na binawasan ang scope of work pero tinaasan ang singil.

Para sa akin mentras ng tumatagal ang Northrail Project ay lalo lang tumataas ang cost ng proyektong ito, at sa mga kadahilanang pagbabago ng mga disenyo, pagtigil ng pag gawa, pag review ng mga kontrata, diba pwede namang rebyuhin ang kontrata pero tuloy ang konstruksyon, at sa totoo lang tayo na ang napapahiya sa mga tsino na naglaan ng pondo upang isagawa ang daang bakal na ito at para sa akin isa lang ang dapat sisihin ang kasalukuyang nakaupo dahil kung gusto nyang sa mabilis na panahon matapos ito ay sasabihin nyang bilisan ang paggawa at tuloy - tuloy, hay ano ba ang mangyayari sa riles patungong norte habang buhay na yatang hindi mararating ng tren ang hilaga at sentral luzon ng tren at kung magawa man baka matanda na tayo hay, wala bang pulitikong pwedeng tumulong para mapabilis ito.

Para sa akin mentras ng tumatagal ang Northrail Project ay lalo lang tumataas ang cost ng proyektong ito, at sa mga kadahilanang pagbabago ng mga disenyo, pagtigil ng pag gawa, pag review ng mga kontrata, diba pwede namang rebyuhin ang kontrata pero tuloy ang konstruksyon, at sa totoo lang tayo na ang napapahiya sa mga tsino na naglaan ng pondo upang isagawa ang daang bakal na ito at para sa akin isa lang ang dapat sisihin ang kasalukuyang nakaupo dahil kung gusto nyang sa mabilis na panahon matapos ito ay sasabihin nyang bilisan ang paggawa at tuloy - tuloy, hay ano ba ang mangyayari sa riles patungong norte habang buhay na yatang hindi mararating ng tren ang hilaga at sentral luzon ng tren at kung magawa man baka matanda na tayo hay, wala bang pulitikong pwedeng tumulong para mapabilis ito.

tama, pwede naman continuous yung project while undergoing review/adjustments. they can continue working on the essentials like piers, embarkment... probably even up to installation of rails. siguro naman nde na nila kailangang tipirin or mag adjust sa ganyang areas. also, dapat gawa sila ng timeline at publish sa media para alam nating mga pilipino kung ano ng status ng project. kawawa rin yung mga workers na lay-off since halos walang movement ang project.

without sacrificing quality, in any infrastructure project mas mabilis matapos, mas malaki ang matitipid. masaya ang mga investor at gov't since mas maagang mababawi ang investments.

tama, pwede naman continuous yung project while undergoing review/adjustments. they can continue working on the essentials like piers, embarkment... probably even up to installation of rails. siguro naman nde na nila kailangang tipirin or mag adjust sa ganyang areas. also, dapat gawa sila ng timeline at publish sa media para alam nating mga pilipino kung ano ng status ng project. kawawa rin yung mga workers na lay-off since halos walang movement ang project.

without sacrificing quality, in any infrastructure project mas mabilis matapos, mas malaki ang matitipid. masaya ang mga investor at gov't since mas maagang mababawi ang investments.

i concur... for the first bolded part, yeah this is what they are probably doing right now as fellow forumers from Bulacan have noted the presence of construction workers, especially in Bulacan... so the "delay" the article is talking about might only pertain to major aspects such as stations, bridges, and rolling stock acquisition... if that is the case, then i guess a short delay is okay...

as for the second bolded part, i agree with this as well, not necessarily the project itself but at least let the public know what the progress is on the contract review and renegotiation...

:cheers:

At PNR Lucena Station & Shed this morning

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PS. According to the Engr. I have spoken to, tuloy ang June 12 run at si 916 ang back-up kung sakaling may tumirik... due for refurb at painting na rin daw itong si 916 soon.

^^ Maunti na yung mga PC Ties sa Lucena shed Mayor...

Based sa picture mo, mukhang napinturan ng unti harap ni 916. Kamusta na si Buda?

^May improvements kahit papano sa lucena area, hmm, akala ko nasa tutuban si 916, asa lucena pala.:D

Nice updates, mayor. (join na ako sa tawagan. :nuts: ) :okay:

@Lucy: Mukhang makapal nanaman ang damo doon sa track papasok ng shed ah. Di ba yon nagagamit? Di gaya ng isang railfan dito.. nakakalbo na.. :nuts:

Yung sa nakakalbo kasi, hindi ginagamit eh. :nuts:

Great update Mayor, love that green truck too...:)

^^ Yan ba yung rail truck na nakita ko dati sa Tutuban?

^^ Ilan ba yung green trucks na ganon ng PNR? O yan na nga yon? Kung yan nga yun, mabuti at umalis na nga sa Tutuban.

^^ Maunti na yung mga PC Ties sa Lucena shed Mayor...

Based sa picture mo, mukhang napinturan ng unti harap ni 916. Kamusta na si Buda?

Matagal na rin napinturahan si 916 almost 6 months ago na rin siguro... pero nakapila na raw sya for refurb sa tutuban depende lang sa sched... kasi sya ang workhorse dito sa area ng Calamba-Gumaca (and beyond pa ata).

Yung mga ties sobra daw yan kasi tapos na silang ilatag sa mga area na nabanggit ko. Sabi pa ni Engr. sana raw magkaron ng budget ang mga tamping equipment para mas maganda ang pagkaka-rehab dito.

Wala na si Buda sa pwesto nya... di alam nun nakausap ko kung sino at saan dinala... :?



Nice updates, mayor. (join na ako sa tawagan. :nuts: ) :okay:

Di ako Mayor ha tawag lang sakin yan... baka magalit yung tunay na Mayor dito hehehe! :nuts:



@Lucy: Mukhang makapal nanaman ang damo doon sa track papasok ng shed ah. Di ba yon nagagamit? Di gaya ng isang railfan dito.. nakakalbo na.. :nuts:

Di masyadong naaalagaan ang yard dito... medyo kapos sa budget... baka pag kumikita na ulit ang PNR may 'taga-tabas' na...



Great update Mayor, love that green truck too...:)

Yung mga nakasakay mukhang trabahador ng contractor at yung foreman nagpunta pa sa office ng Sta. Manager nagpaalam na sisibat na sila... May video ako ng pagdaan nito kaso maigsi lang... mabilis din ito ha pumapalo rin ng mga 60-80kph sa railtrack... minsan nakikita ko ito sa hwy sa Pagbilao-Lucena ganun rin kabilis ang takbo... siguro pag retired na ang mga BW eto ang hahatak sa mga railcars... :lol:


:cheers1:

Napanood ko sa youtube yung video ng yakap ni L.A. Lopez feature doon ang commex in good condition pala at yung loob bg tutuban station i thing it's way back year 1998 ng kinuhanan ang video

mukhang maluwag ang right of way dyan sa lucena at unting ayos rin ng riles pwede na ang 60 - 75 Km/h na takbo dyan basta iangat lang ang riles mula sa putik at lgayan ng maraming gravel.

Yes Uncle Brad, you can actually get to the railroad bridge if you want. I'd like to really take a closer look, but I can't because my mother and brother will be waiting for far too long :lol:

If you're Lucena-bound, this bridge is located right after the Tiaong bypass road. :)

Hi there,
Yeah its hard to explore when travelling with non-believers :lol:

Thanks for the location. Would you believe that I didnt take that bypass road on both trip down to Lucena, went via the town. Know exactly where it is and will take a looksie next time.

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PS. According to the Engr. I have spoken to, tuloy ang June 12 run at si 916 ang back-up kung sakaling may tumirik... due for refurb at painting na rin daw itong si 916 soon.

Many thanks for the memories, Lucena looks just I remember her.

If talking to the Engr again, ask him about 916s reliablity compared to the rest of the fleet. In manila I was told that she was usually relegated to Lucena as she was the dog of the fleet.
Hopefully they can find the reasons through a good overhaul.

putang ina :

Among some of the earlier Tagalog terms I was taught :)

kumusta na! halos 2 weeks ko nadadaanan ang mga karilisan mula san pablo rr crossing tiaong at candelaria at ang stretch ng pagbilao malicboy area to gumaca. at sa may km 148 me imbakan ng mga ties doon ang dami pa gagamitin siguro sa rehab ng riles hanggang bicol. sayang wala lang ako camera..

Ang bilis na nyang 70 to 80kph..diba uuga riles nyan di kasi natatamping ang mga riles dyan..Kaya naba karerahin sa lucena lines pa calauag??

mukhang negatibo na ata talaga ang NR. Talagang maghaharian parin sila limang bituwin at panalo liner.sa CL.

Paltik sa bilis ata ang NR siguro pag nagawa... Ala talaga to si Noysiyo Sabihin nyo nga ke noynoy pagkasama nya yung pamangkin nya si baby james manuod ng Thomas and Friends at Chuggington Ahihihihihhi!

sana talaga ay ganito kalinis ang ROW ng PNR. ang gandang tingnan kapag walang squatters.
Shortcutan nyan ng mga Bicol bound busses. Minsan kahit Jac. ganda dyan pag nakikipagsabayan yung tren at bus..

Some photos taken today, 04.05.11

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^^ Another look
anu ba yung mga bundok dyan? Cristobal ba at makiling?? Palagi ako nakakadaan dyan

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mukhang naalagaan si Dagupan 17 kumpara dun sa tutuban kinakalawang at parang wala lang.

Kumpirmado naba ang June 12 na commercial run ng Manila - Naga, if tuloy na it's very exciting at for sure marami na ang mag re - reserve ng slot sa slepper train.

Napansin ko lang bakit ganon may nakaharang na yero doon sa riles ng lucena staion, ano ba yun gate?

any news? tuloy na daw ang south extension project ng LRT.. ?

P-Nays PNR Bicol Achievement

1. 40% complete Travesia Bridge.
2. 75% complete San Rafael Eroded Embankment clearing.

P-Nay's first wave of PNR spending.

DBM disburses P1B for infra work (http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20110410-330425/DBM-disburses-P1B-for-infra-work)


MANILA, Philippines—The Department of Budget and Management has released P1.065 billion to fund various airports, seaports and other transportation infrastructure projects that the Department of Transportation and Communication (DoTC) will undertake.

According to Budget Secretary Florencio B. Abad, President Aquino has already given the green light on special allotment release orders (SAROs) for several projects to enable the DoTC to begin implementing the various projects and take advantage of the favorable weather in the coming months.

Of the total amount released, P530.5 million has been allocated for airports and navigational facilities, P284.5 million for seaports and lighthouses, and P250 million for the rehabilitation of the Philippine National Railways commuter line linking Alabang in Muntinlupa City to Calamba in Laguna.

For airport projects, the SAROs include P75 million to acquire property for the Alaminos Airport in Pangasinan; P75 million for construction of a new terminal for the Dipolog airport in Zamboanga del Norte; P65 million for the San Vicente Airport in Palawan; and P35 million for the rehabilitation of the old domestic terminal in Aklan’s Kalibo Airport.

For the seaport projects, the SAROs include P45.5 million for the development of the Codon roll-on roll-off port in Catanduanes; P30 million for the expansion of the Placer Port in Surigao del Norte; and P25 million for the development of the Lupon Port in Davao Oriental.

“The Aquino administration is committed to invest properly in infrastructure projects,” the budget secretary said. “If done in the right way, these transportation infrastructure projects are expected to increase economic activities, such as tourism and trade of agricultural goods.”

Abad added that the airport and seaport projects would spur business in key local tourism destinations, and help local agribusiness companies in marketing their products in other places.

Also, Abad said the PNR commuter line would provide a faster alternative for those commuting to work in Metro Manila from nearby provinces in the south.

Last month, the DBM also released P2 billion for the National Power Corp.’s small power utilities group (SPUG) as part of efforts to augment fuel supply in small power plants serving far-flung areas across the country.

P-Nay's first wave of PNR spending.

DBM disburses P1B for infra work (http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20110410-330425/DBM-disburses-P1B-for-infra-work)


MANILA, Philippines—The Department of Budget and Management has released P1.065 billion to fund various airports, seaports and other transportation infrastructure projects that the Department of Transportation and Communication (DoTC) will undertake.

According to Budget Secretary Florencio B. Abad, President Aquino has already given the green light on special allotment release orders (SAROs) for several projects to enable the DoTC to begin implementing the various projects and take advantage of the favorable weather in the coming months.

Of the total amount released, P530.5 million has been allocated for airports and navigational facilities, P284.5 million for seaports and lighthouses, and P250 million for the rehabilitation of the Philippine National Railways commuter line linking Alabang in Muntinlupa City to Calamba in Laguna.

For airport projects, the SAROs include P75 million to acquire property for the Alaminos Airport in Pangasinan; P75 million for construction of a new terminal for the Dipolog airport in Zamboanga del Norte; P65 million for the San Vicente Airport in Palawan; and P35 million for the rehabilitation of the old domestic terminal in Aklan’s Kalibo Airport.

For the seaport projects, the SAROs include P45.5 million for the development of the Codon roll-on roll-off port in Catanduanes; P30 million for the expansion of the Placer Port in Surigao del Norte; and P25 million for the development of the Lupon Port in Davao Oriental.

“The Aquino administration is committed to invest properly in infrastructure projects,” the budget secretary said. “If done in the right way, these transportation infrastructure projects are expected to increase economic activities, such as tourism and trade of agricultural goods.”

Abad added that the airport and seaport projects would spur business in key local tourism destinations, and help local agribusiness companies in marketing their products in other places.

Also, Abad said the PNR commuter line would provide a faster alternative for those commuting to work in Metro Manila from nearby provinces in the south.

Last month, the DBM also released P2 billion for the National Power Corp.’s small power utilities group (SPUG) as part of efforts to augment fuel supply in small power plants serving far-flung areas across the country.

OMG PNAY I LOVE YOU!!!!!:banana::banana::banana: Although I don't like the guy, if he can make this happen then I'll give him credit!!! PNR rehab Muntinlupa to Calamba anak ng!!!!!! GM RAGRAGIO GO GO GO GASTOS NA AGAD PUTCHA BAKA BAWIIN PA..... Sa private sector, katulad sa companya ko, kapag me approval na ng presidente on capital expenditure.... ang mga project manager mabilis pa sa alas kwatro kung gumastos para hindi na mabawi pa yung funding anak ng!!!. SPENDING BONANZA AGAD, of course complying to all anti-graft and corruption practices.

Php250M for rehabilitation of PNR commuter line - isn't this the same fund for the transportation of the trains from Japan or is this a new fund?

transportation of the trains from Japan

We're getting trains from Japan?

^^Yeah. Second-hand though.

Just googled around and found that they're going to give us 50 trains. Hopefully they'll still get here despite what heppened there.

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^^^^w0w ayus ah sobra2x pa yung mga concrete ties jan sa lucena.anu2x bang mga lugar jan sa lucena ang mga napalitan na ng concrete ties sir lucentino?edi mula lucena papuna ng gumaca nanaman ang rehab work nila tapos ung mga sobra2x na mga concrete ties dun ilalagay sa kahabaang ng gumaca tama ba sir lucentino?:banana::banana::banana:

Php250M for rehabilitation of PNR commuter line - isn't this the same fund for the transportation of the trains from Japan or is this a new fund?

I think it's a new fund. Last year pa napirmahan ang budget for the EMU shipping.

Just googled around and found that they're going to give us 50 trains. Hopefully they'll still get here despite what heppened there.

The units might be delayed on coming here. Worst case scenario would be they won't be delivered in here anymore because of what happened.

Php250M for rehabilitation of PNR commuter line - isn't this the same fund for the transportation of the trains from Japan or is this a new fund?

yung Php250M. ay para sa pag re-rehab ng riles at kasama din sa pag commence ng double tracking ng PHASE2 alabang-sucat segment.kung my sosobra yun ang gagamitin para sa additional coaches:cheers:.

any news? tuloy na daw ang south extension project ng LRT.. ?

Dun ka sa kabilang thread. :) Ayon, langaw pa din. :nuts:

I think it's a new fund. Last year pa napirmahan ang budget for the EMU shipping.

The budget was released this year so the funds came from the 2010 GAA. I'm also thinking what Madam LR is thinking.

yung Php250M. ay para sa pag re-rehab ng riles at kasama din sa pag commence ng double tracking ng PHASE2 alabang-sucat segment.kung my sosobra yun ang gagamitin para sa additional coaches:cheers:.

Kulang pa P250M for Alabang-Calamba double tracking.

Kulang pa P250M for Alabang-Calamba double tracking.

Bahala na daw si Batman sa kulang.

The budget was released this year so the funds came from the 2010 GAA. I'm also thinking what Madam LR is thinking.



Ay, this year pala lumabas yung budget. My bad. :lol:

If all of this will be materialized this year it's good for P-noy government, the good people will appreciate it, because this is progress for our country specially for those people living in south.

Kapag ba tumakbo na ang tren for Manila - naga anong oras ba ang slot nito, tulad ba nang dati na hapon ang alis at ang dating naman sa naga ay umaga.

ano nang status ng double tracking between Sucat and Alabang? sana ma-kumpleto in time yung double tracking ng stretch from Tutuban to Calamba so that regular PNR Commuter Train services can finally commence to serve more of the train-riding public. :)

Kung susuriin marami na rin na accomplish ang PNR lalo na sa mga refurbish locomotive at ang pagsusumikap nilang ayusin ang riles patungong Naga, at kasabay nito ay maka ilang ulit nilang test run na naging manipestasyon rin na muling magbabalik ang byaheng bicol at ang pag acquire ng mga slepper coaches upang lalong guminhawa ang pagsakay sa tren ng ating mga kababayan nais magtungo sa timog luzon at ang inaasahang pang 50 donasyon ng mg bagon mula sa japan, na sa kabila nang nangyari sa kanilang trahedya ay willing silang matulungan ang PNR upang mas mapalawak pa ang serbisyo ng tren sa kamaynilaan at kalapit probinsya.

Sana nga ma commence na ang double tracking mula sucat to alabang at ang alabang to calamba upang sa ganon ay isa rin bahagi ito na dapat i - inagurate alin sabay sa panunumbalik ng Manila - Naga run.

ano nang status ng double tracking between Sucat and Alabang? sana ma-kumpleto in time yung double tracking ng stretch from Tutuban to Calamba so that regular PNR Commuter Train services can finally commence to serve more of the train-riding public. :)

^^ Kung sakaling matapos ang double tracking. DMU ba ang bibiyahe sa Calamba o Commex? Kung Commex, madadagdagan kaya ang byahe nito?

sorry ha if napaka inosenteng tanong... yun bang current rehabilitation ng PNR eh standard gauge na or susundin pa rin nila yung lumang configuration?

^^ Still narrow gauge.

^^ pero ang NR at SR ay standard gauge na dba?

teka nalilito ako...:nuts: ung P250 million na yan iba yan dun sa loan ng Korea diba?? ung 2nd set ng mga DMU's saan kasama yun??:dunno:

^^ pero ang NR at SR ay standard gauge na dba?

Yan na naman yang "Southrail" na yan :ahihihi: este :D

teka nalilito ako...:nuts: ung P250 million na yan iba yan dun sa loan ng Korea diba?? ung 2nd set ng mga DMU's saan kasama yun??:dunno:

sa phase II daw ..pag natapos yung alabang to binyan? ..hindi ko alam eh, basta phase II

^^ Kung sakaling matapos ang double tracking. DMU ba ang bibiyahe sa Calamba o Commex? Kung Commex, madadagdagan kaya ang byahe nito?

i am thinking that the idea using the DMUs all the way to Calamba is quite inappropriate. masyadong malayo ang Calamba para tiisin ng mga pasahero yung pagtayo at sobrang siksikan, both of which are already being experienced by passengers who take the current Tutuban-Alabang trips. instead, for the much longer Tutuban-Calamba trips, dapat refurbished COMMEX coaches (may maayos na air conditioning systems at CRs, may comfortable na seats, well-ventilated, etc.)yung mas dapat gamitin. ;)

sa phase II daw ..pag natapos yung alabang to binyan? ..hindi ko alam eh, basta phase II

kelan naman magsisimula ung phase II?? di pa ata tapos ung double tracking mula Sucat-Alabang diba??

i am thinking that the idea using the DMUs all the way to Calamba is quite inappropriate. masyadong malayo ang Calamba para tiisin ng mga pasahero yung pagtayo at sobrang siksikan, both of which are already being experienced by passengers who take the current Tutuban-Alabang trips. instead, for the much longer Tutuban-Calamba trips, dapat refurbished COMMEX coaches (may maayos na air conditioning systems at CRs, may comfortable na seats, well-ventilated, etc.)yung mas dapat gamitin. ;)

Sa opinion ko pre, pwede din DMU yan kaya lang dapat mag improve dramatic yung service i.e. dumami tren at dumalas ang round trips at higit sa lahat maging efficient ang stop & go parang sa LRT talaga..... Distance wise short lang yan...

Yung sa Singapore LRT nila longest route ay 50 kilometers. Yung Alabang to Calamba ay about 35 KM lamang

i am thinking that the idea using the DMUs all the way to Calamba is quite inappropriate. masyadong malayo ang Calamba para tiisin ng mga pasahero yung pagtayo at sobrang siksikan, both of which are already being experienced by passengers who take the current Tutuban-Alabang trips. instead, for the much longer Tutuban-Calamba trips, dapat refurbished COMMEX coaches (may maayos na air conditioning systems at CRs, may comfortable na seats, well-ventilated, etc.)yung mas dapat gamitin. ;)

talagang i rerefurbish lahat ng mga natitirang commex ayon kay GM at maaring mawala na ang Non Aircon dahil gagawing aircon na ang lahat.. oo ata aayusin pati CR.Ideal talaga ang commex sa calamba kasi aabutin ng 2 oras byahe don mula TU to Calamba.

i am thinking that the idea using the DMUs all the way to Calamba is quite inappropriate. masyadong malayo ang Calamba para tiisin ng mga pasahero yung pagtayo at sobrang siksikan, both of which are already being experienced by passengers who take the current Tutuban-Alabang trips. instead, for the much longer Tutuban-Calamba trips, dapat refurbished COMMEX coaches (may maayos na air conditioning systems at CRs, may comfortable na seats, well-ventilated, etc.)yung mas dapat gamitin. ;)

dapat dito gamitin ang Car 1, 2, 3 at NR-01 ..yung sleepers nalang ang i byahe pa-bicol

Sa opinion ko pre, pwede din DMU yan kaya lang dapat mag improve dramatic yung service i.e. dumami tren at dumalas ang round trips at higit sa lahat maging efficient ang stop & go parang sa LRT talaga..... Distance wise short lang yan...

Yung sa Singapore LRT nila longest route ay 50 kilometers. Yung Alabang to Calamba ay about 35 KM lamang

actually, we can really use the DMUs to serve the Tutuban-Calamba route. my concern, however, is more about the comfort of passengers who will be take the 50 kilometer or so journey from Tutuban to Calamba and vice versa. if the DMUs serving the from Tutuban to Alabang route and vice versa are already cramped, with most passengers literally standing on their seats and enduring quite a lengthy amount of time during the trip, there will definitely be more discomfort on the part of passengers who will take a cramped DMU from Tutuban to Calamba and vice versa.

i agree with your two points regarding the need for more trips, which means the PNR acquiring additional DMUs, and having the COMMEX coaches and GE Blue Whale locomotive fleet refurbished, and a vast improvement on the way the PNR is serving the riding public.

dapat dito gamitin ang Car 1, 2, 3 at NR-01 ..yung sleepers nalang ang i byahe pa-bicol

Not all passengers can afford the Sleeper service.

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Found by pipi sa Flickr, a TPLUEx viaduct that will traverse the PNR ROW somewhere in Carmen (?), Pangasinan:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/demosthenes/5496547284/in/photostream

actually, we can really use the DMUs to serve the Tutuban-Calamba route. my concern, however, is more about the comfort of passengers who will be take the 50 kilometer or so journey from Tutuban to Calamba and vice versa. if the DMUs serving the from Tutuban to Alabang route and vice versa are already cramped, with most passengers literally standing on their seats and enduring quite a lengthy amount of time during the trip, there will definitely be more discomfort on the part of passengers who will take a cramped DMU from Tutuban to Calamba and vice versa.

i agree with your two points regarding the need for more trips, which means the PNR acquiring additional DMUs, and having the COMMEX coaches and GE Blue Whale locomotive fleet refurbished, and a vast improvement on the way the PNR is serving the riding public.

Ako naman, sa tingin ko, pwede tayong magpatakbo ng regular DMU trips na Tutuban-Alabang, Calamba-Alabang, tapos merong biyaheng mga COMMEX coaches na Tutuban-Calamba, pero mas konti ang bilang. Sa tingin ko, uubra ito kung hindi pa kaya ng PNR na magdagdag ng enough number of units na bibyahe ng Tutuban-Calamba ng tuloy-tuloy.

anu ba yung mga bundok dyan? Cristobal ba at makiling?? Palagi ako nakakadaan dyan

Yan nakikita mo Mt. Banahaw lang tol (Yung conical shape sa right ang Banahaw de Lucban)... :)


Napansin ko lang bakit ganon may nakaharang na yero doon sa riles ng lucena staion, ano ba yun gate?

Dating ginawang fabrication area ng concrete ties yun... ino-open ang magkabilang pinto nito kapag may dumadaan na tren o truck... mapapansin mo wala na ang batching plant (FS) sa loob nito (compare it to my previous pics last yr)... tapos na kasi silang mag-produce ng ties at naisalpak na raw lahat ng bagong ties sa dapat kalagyan (Calamba to Bicol)... kulang na lang lagyan ng ballast at i-tamper ang karilesan.


^^^^w0w ayus ah sobra2x pa yung mga concrete ties jan sa lucena.anu2x bang mga lugar jan sa lucena ang mga napalitan na ng concrete ties sir lucentino?edi mula lucena papuna ng gumaca nanaman ang rehab work nila tapos ung mga sobra2x na mga concrete ties dun ilalagay sa kahabaang ng gumaca tama ba sir lucentino?:banana::banana::banana:

Mga sobra nga ang ties na yun... ewan kung saan ito gagamitin... sa area ng Pagbilao marami rin nakatambak na concrete ties sa gilid ng PNR-ROW...


Many thanks for the memories, Lucena looks just I remember her.

If talking to the Engr again, ask him about 916s reliablity compared to the rest of the fleet. In manila I was told that she was usually relegated to Lucena as she was the dog of the fleet.
Hopefully they can find the reasons through a good overhaul.

Hi Uncle Brad... 916 is still a beast according to the Engr. (name witheld)... the primary workhorse for all jobs Calamba to Tagkawayan and perhaps beyond)... I just noticed corrosion all over her (buldging paint) but she is reportedly due for a (much deserved) overhaul at Tutuban (or Caloocan?) in the very near future (if funds allow)... the past year, she has been pulling an average of 2 flatbeds full of concrete ties... I guess she has taken a break just lately.

:cheers1:

^^ Mayor Lucy, yung bang mga PC ties na nakatambak sa tabi ng Pagbilao ROW and beyond nung September ay yun padin ang nakatambak ngayon doon?

Yan nakikita mo Mt. Banahaw lang tol (Yung conical shape sa right ang Banahaw de Lucban)... :)




Dating ginawang fabrication area ng concrete ties yun... ino-open ang magkabilang pinto nito kapag may dumadaan na tren o truck... mapapansin mo wala na ang batching plant (FS) sa loob nito (compare it to my previous pics last yr)... tapos na kasi silang mag-produce ng ties at naisalpak na raw lahat ng bagong ties sa dapat kalagyan (Calamba to Bicol)... kulang na lang lagyan ng ballast at i-tamper ang karilesan.




Mga sobra nga ang ties na yun... ewan kung saan ito gagamitin... sa area ng Pagbilao marami rin nakatambak na concrete ties sa gilid ng PNR-ROW...




Hi Uncle Brad... 916 is still a beast according to the Engr. (name witheld)... the primary workhorse for all jobs Calamba to Tagkawayan and perhaps beyond)... I just noticed corrosion all over her (buldging paint) but she is reportedly due for a (much deserved) overhaul at Tutuban (or Caloocan?) in the very near future (if funds allow)... the past year, she has been pulling an average of 2 flatbeds full of concrete ties... I guess she has taken a break just lately.

:cheers1:
diba magkatabi ang banahaw at cristobal?di ba bulkan yan banahaw?gaano kalayo sa LGCTI sa may ilayang dupay ang istasyon ng PNR sa lucena?

dapat dito gamitin ang Car 1, 2, 3 at NR-01 ..yung sleepers nalang ang i byahe pa-bicol

Wag si NR-01.

^@Gov888 parang ganun nga nakatambak lang sa ROW nun pa... meron pa nga mga portion parang hindi standard ang distansya ng pagkakalagay ng ties (masyadong malapit sa isa't-isa)...


@915 dun sa angle ng pic buong profile ng Banahaw at hindi kita ang Sn. Cristobal (nasa bandang left pa yun)... yun namang PNR-Lucena malayo sa LGCT (3-4km)... gawin mo sakay ka ng jeepney (Bayan) kamo ibaba ka sa DBP/Kapitolyo (minimum pamasahe)... walking distance lang sya mula DBP (more or less 300m)...

^^ bakit pinoproblema nyo ang pag byahe ng mga DMU sa Calamba? Eh diba ang plano gamitin doon ay ang mga EMU na galing japan.

Kaso nga na-disgrasya sila.

^^ think positive. Darating yon dito. With free radioactive materials. :nuts: joke lang. :tongue:

^@Gov888 parang ganun nga nakatambak lang sa ROW nun pa... meron pa nga mga portion parang hindi standard ang distansya ng pagkakalagay ng ties (masyadong malapit sa isa't-isa)...

Ang dami kasing nakabalandrang mga PC ties doon sa ROW noon, pero kita namin na pinaltan na yung sa line mismo. Tapos walang ballast, lupa lang nasuporta sa ties.

Howdy-ho, mga ka-riles, y'all!

I understand that Holy Week is the one time of year much of working life in the Philippines shuts down to reflect on the reason for the Lent season. My observance of Holy Week is no different: as part of active involvement in my church, I of course have my usual Maundy Thursday till Easter activities there - together with my girlfriend (BTW, this month of this year, she and I celebrate the 5th Year anniversary of when we began dating!). And then after the Holy Week, I go on a personal post-Easter vacation. (This year, I leave for the U.S. on Easter Sunday evening and will be away for two weeks.)

So tomorrow, I shall once again take the fullest advantage of my early dismissal from office to head on down to Tutuban and see all the PNR action there (and you guys too, hopefully) as I catch the Blue Whale 201, on board which I head back to Makati (EDSA). This will be the last time I'll be able to do so, since over the coming week, I have a lot to wrap up on my end before the Holy Week itself sets in - and before I leave.

So PNR friends and fellow SSCers in that area who are available and can make it tomorrow, kita-kits tayo, y'all!

dapat dito gamitin ang Car 1, 2, 3 at NR-01 ..yung sleepers nalang ang i byahe pa-bicol

yeah, bakit di muna nila gamitin un kasi naka-garahe lang sila dun sa Tutuban tapos wala pa namang trips sa Bicol... kahit wag na si NR 01 para naman ma-refurbish ung mga kinakalawang na Commex...:)

Dating ginawang fabrication area ng concrete ties yun... ino-open ang magkabilang pinto nito kapag may dumadaan na tren o truck... mapapansin mo wala na ang batching plant (FS) sa loob nito (compare it to my previous pics last yr)... tapos na kasi silang mag-produce ng ties at naisalpak na raw lahat ng bagong ties sa dapat kalagyan (Calamba to Bicol)... kulang na lang lagyan ng ballast at i-tamper ang karilesan.

:cheers1:

really?!?! wow, so kulang na lang talaga ballast ah... mukhang matutuloy na nga ang Bicol line sa summer...:banana:

i am thinking that the idea using the DMUs all the way to Calamba is quite inappropriate. masyadong malayo ang Calamba para tiisin ng mga pasahero yung pagtayo at sobrang siksikan, both of which are already being experienced by passengers who take the current Tutuban-Alabang trips. instead, for the much longer Tutuban-Calamba trips, dapat refurbished COMMEX coaches (may maayos na air conditioning systems at CRs, may comfortable na seats, well-ventilated, etc.)yung mas dapat gamitin. ;)

Ok lang naman ang DMU. nagamit na yan sa Bicol commuter train, Naga-ligao (60+ km) and naga - sipocot (30+ km.)

makakatulong na rin yan sa pagexercise sa mga pasahero na nakatayo. :ahihihi: este :lol:

yeah, bakit di muna nila gamitin un kasi naka-garahe lang sila dun sa Tutuban tapos wala pa namang trips sa Bicol... kahit wag na si NR 01 para naman ma-refurbish ung mga kinakalawang na Commex...:)

Wag nga si NR-01...kung tutuusin, parang "Inspection Coach" na ng PNR top brass yun kasi :D

really?!?! wow, so kulang na lang talaga ballast ah... mukhang matutuloy na nga ang Bicol line sa summer...:banana:


Dapat matamper riles simula Tutuban hanggang Naga. Kung tutuusin, pwede na naman talagang magbyahe na pa-Bicol. Problem is the average 16hr travel time due to the undergoing rehab. Pag natamper ng maganda, travel time will be reduced immensely.

Ano na pala ang status ng Linkage Project? Parang ang tagal na renovation ata nito? Pati rin yung Bicol line.

^^ Kung ano yung iniwan ni GM Andal na LP. Ganun pa rin ngayon. Nabago lang ay gumagana na ang mga barriers.

^^ Kung ano yung iniwan ni GM Andal na LP. Ganun pa rin ngayon. Nabago lang ay gumagana na ang mga barriers.

meron pa, nag sayang ng pera sa pag pintura ng mga train na meron bagong logo at binalik yung lumang logo

Hi Uncle Brad... 916 is still a beast according to the Engr. (name witheld)... the primary workhorse for all jobs Calamba to Tagkawayan and perhaps beyond)... I just noticed corrosion all over her (buldging paint) but she is reportedly due for a (much deserved) overhaul at Tutuban (or Caloocan?) in the very near future (if funds allow)... the past year, she has been pulling an average of 2 flatbeds full of concrete ties... I guess she has taken a break just lately.

:cheers1:

Hiya Lucentino,
Well she was brought up to be a tough engine with all the projectiles and grenades she encountered :)
According to the Engr I talked to, she had just recently been repainted when I was there in 2010. Twas straight over the rust, but still she was looking much better.
She looks like having the distinction of being the last to wear that early 2000s livery. It would be interesting to know which was the first.

^^^^^^

I should say, the last to recieve it, not wear it.

i am thinking that the idea using the DMUs all the way to Calamba is quite inappropriate. masyadong malayo ang Calamba para tiisin ng mga pasahero yung pagtayo at sobrang siksikan, both of which are already being experienced by passengers who take the current Tutuban-Alabang trips. instead, for the much longer Tutuban-Calamba trips, dapat refurbished COMMEX coaches (may maayos na air conditioning systems at CRs, may comfortable na seats, well-ventilated, etc.)yung mas dapat gamitin. ;)

Hiya Bahay,
Probably not innappropriate if they were to run them as 6 cars sets, at a minimum, and limited stops around Manila, with a connecting all stopper meeting it at Alabang.
The Tutuban to Calamba run is not a very long one, and a six car set could carry many.
However, the long promised, but never arriving, Phase II ROTEMs would really be desperately needed for such a plan.

i agree with your two points regarding the need for more trips, which means the PNR acquiring additional DMUs, and having the COMMEX coaches and GE Blue Whale locomotive fleet refurbished, and a vast improvement on the way the PNR is serving the riding public.

Which again raises my often raised, but largely ignored, enquiry as to the under utilization of that ancient COMMEX set.
Instead of having it sitting around Tutuban all day and Binan all night, why not run two extra Binan services during the day. I am sure it will be utilized enough to make it a viable proposition.
Its a hugely wasted asset, despite being a derelict one.

Dont worry mga guys sa mga darating na tren from japan may kasama tulad ng commex na umaandar ngayon bukod sa mga sinasabing EMU, kaya baka eto rin ang gamitin for binan service.

Pwede rin yung dmu pero maging tulad sa commex ang mga seat arragement

Does anybody have pictures of the type of trains that'll hopefully be donated by Japan?

^^ It was already posted in the previous threads...

@Riles 28: Are there COMMEX-type coaches that would be donated by JR East?

How are the trains powered, BTW?

^^ Locomotive hauled. They will tinker with the EMU electrical system to energize the doors, AC, etc.

Does anybody have pictures of the type of trains that'll hopefully be donated by Japan?

You may want to go here:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=173297342685859&id=143064952375765&aid=46759

Thanks for the pictures. (I removed my question because, thanks to Google, it's already been answered.)

meron pa, nag sayang ng pera sa pag pintura ng mga train na meron bagong logo at binalik yung lumang logo

Para po kasi bumagay sa Sleeper coaches.

Are they also going to give us the errm... how do I say it:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=217632704918989&set=a.173297342685859.46759.143064952375765&type=1 This!

^^ It was already posted in the previous threads...

@Riles 28: Are there COMMEX-type coaches that would be donated by JR East?

@ absinthe_888: Sa pagkakaalam kasi meron rin silang tinanggal na series 14 coaches na ang seating arrangement ay face to face at nare - recline ang mga seat.

Maganda sa meron talagang makakuha ng pic, ng mga donation train na kuha mismo sa Japan, kahit na medyo kritikal ang sitwasyon roon.

Buong train ba ibibigay or yung pax cars lang?

Buong train ba ibibigay or yung pax cars lang?

Walang detalyadong porma ng mga tren na ibibigay at according.

Are they also going to give us the errm... how do I say it:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=217632704918989&set=a.173297342685859.46759.143064952375765&type=1 This!

EMU, ser. :D

ser? sure ako na mas bata pa ko sa inyo :))

17 pa lang ako. :nuts: Huwag sabihing 15 pa lang kayo? :lol: :lol:

How did you know?

Chamba. :nuts:

Anyways, marami daw ang sirang barriers....

barriers?

Howdy-ho, PNR riders, supporters, and fans in SkyscraperCity Philippines, y'all!

Yesterday's rail ride was as usual an adventure in itself despite how exhausted I felt when I got to Tutuban. But nevertheless, I'm happy to have made what I could out of it despite not too many people I knew showing up for my last rail ride prior to the Holy Week.

Wednesday, April 13th, 2011
Around 6 PM
Tutuban Terminal

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Boarding 201, pulled by Locomotive 919.

We pulled out right on time at 6:20 PM, nicely puffing and chugging along down the line as more and more people climbed in, crowding the train at each stop.

One thing I noticed about Commex trips I've been taking in recent time is that it gets unusually crowded as early as Sta. Mesa (before even crossing the Pasig River!). I guess one factor to it is the fact that the train is pulling only as few as 4 carriages; not too long ago, it had as many as 5 or even 6! Well... that's how I observe it anyway - but I noticed with 5 or 6 carriages it didn't use to get that crowded that soon; I remember remaining seated until my usual EDSA stop and still being able to get out easily. Nowadays, I'd have to stand up as early as Buendia - two stops before mine - as exemplified:

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Uncomfortable, isn't it? (Especially for a ginormous-gutted dude like me!)

Around 7:10 PM
EDSA Station, Makati

It was only after I got out at my stop that I was able to breathe again.

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Some on-camera driver banter... :D BTW - my "camera" (an ageing Nokia 9500) suddenly blipped out, which is why the ending got truncated the moment I normally let out my trademark holler.

Anyway, next week is Holy Week, and I understand that PNR (and also the LRT and MRT rail network) will not be operating from Maundy Thursday all the way till Easter Sunday; regular services resuming Monday after Easter.

As for me, I have a TON of work to finish before the Holy Week kicks in. Once it does, I have my activities in church, and after that (evening of Easter Sunday, in fact), I leave for the U.S. for a two-week personal vacation. Therefore, this rail ride is my last until after I come back.

So until then, keep ridin' the rails, y'all....

THE END.
(Awkward end?)

Chamba. :nuts:

Anyways, marami daw ang sirang barriers....

^^ Meron nga nakakalbo at napapanot na eh.. :nuts:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=173297392685854&set=a.173297342685859.46759.143064952375765&type=1&theater

ksma po ba ang E231-1000 series(train in left)?
ksi sa alm ko po bgo ln po ung unit na yn
ksi po 2000 lang po yan pinatakbo so bago pa po

In observance of the Lent Season, as well as to facilitate thorough maintenance checks on the lines, vehicles, and the system in general, all PNR services shall be suspended on Maundy Thursday (April 21st), Good Friday (the 22nd), Black Saturday (the 23rd), and Easter Sunday (the 24th).

Regular services resume on Monday after Easter (the 25th).

Source: PNR drivers and staff told me during yesterday's rail ride.

sana ung Paco station din mabigyan ng facelift...

Historic railway station to get P5-M facelift

By Jovi T. De Leon (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/pampanga/local-news/2011/04/12/historic-railway-station-get-p5-m-facelift-149948)
Tuesday, April 12, 2011

CITY OF SAN FERNANDO – The restoration of the historic Philippine National Railways station in Barangay Sto. Nino pegged at P5 million has earned the nod of authorities.

Mayor Oscar Rodriguez led the groundbreaking and time capsule laying for the restoration of the station during the commemoration of the 69th Araw ng Kagitingan.


Rodriguez said authorities from North Rail have approved the planned restoration. “They will incorporate it in the modernization plan of the station.”

The station will be restored and converted into a museum for veterans and housing war artifacts.

The railway station, where the Death Kilometer 102 marker stands, has played a vital role during the infamous death march, where thousands of Filipino and American soldiers fell during World War II under the hands of the Japanese army.

City Tourism Officer Ching Pangilinan said the restoration will be in collaboration with the Tourism Infrastructure and Enterprise Zone Authority and the San Fernando Heritage Foundation.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5026/5610735604_4a156f2090.jpg
PAMPANGA. Mayor Oscar Rodriguez, veterans, and city officials join in laying the time capsule during last Saturday’s groundbreaking ceremonies for the restoration of the PNR station in Barangay Sto. Nino. (Jovi T. De Leon)

Published in the Sun.Star Pampanga newspaper on April 12, 2011.

How's northrail going along?

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4084/69280721.jpg


The above ad circa 1928 promotes Mayon Volcano while actively erupting. The ad was published a year after the Manila Railroad company promoted "Bicol Express". The Manila Railroad Company started using "Express" after they used oil-fired locomotives. The trip starts with a train ride from Paco to Aloneros, Guinayangan, Quezon. A night boat to Pasacao, Camarines Sur along the Ragay Gulf, then motor drive to Pamplona, Camarines Sur. The last leg of the travel is a train ride from Pamplona to Legaspi City or Tabaco, Albay.


Source (http://peoplesrepublicofguinayangan.blogspot.com/2009/07/railway-ad-circa-1928-quezon-and-bicol.html)

barriers?

Crossing barriers po.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=173297392685854&set=a.173297342685859.46759.143064952375765&type=1&theater
ksma po ba ang E231-1000 series(train in left)?
ksi sa alm ko po bgo ln po ung unit na yn
ksi po 2000 lang po yan pinatakbo so bago pa po

The one on the right is the one.

How's northrail going along?

Tanungin mo si Abnoy. :nuts:

Mabuti pa ang south rail , napag-uusapan kahit wala pang nasisimulan , ang NR Dedma lang.:lol::nuts:

Mabuti pa ang south rail , napag-uusapan kahit wala pang nasisimulan , ang NR Dedma lang.:lol::nuts:

under the radar kasi ang NR... gugulatin na lang nila tayo pag may tren nang tumatakbo sa Bulacan..:D

ewan ko lang kung magugulat nila tayo sa kabaong, namatay na kakahintay...:lol::nuts:

:cheers:

^^ Bago makarating ng Bulacan...ayusin muna nila ang karilesan sa Kalookan :nuts:

under the radar kasi ang NR... gugulatin na lang nila tayo pag may tren nang tumatakbo sa Bulacan..:D

ewan ko lang kung magugulat nila tayo sa kabaong, namatay na kakahintay...:lol::nuts:

:cheers:

:rofl:

Nakakagulat rin ang radar ng NR kapag bigla humihinto o natutulog ang construction. :nuts:

Diyan sa part na iyan na kulang pa ng isang istasyon ang PNR.:nuts:

Mabibigla na lang kayo kung tren ng PNR ang tumatakbo dyan. :nuts:

In observance of the Lent Season, as well as to facilitate thorough maintenance checks on the lines, vehicles, and the system in general, all PNR services shall be suspended on Maundy Thursday (April 21st), Good Friday (the 22nd), Black Saturday (the 23rd), and Easter Sunday (the 24th).

Regular services resume on Monday after Easter (the 25th).

Source: PNR drivers and staff told me during yesterday's rail ride.

Disgraceful.

I'm sorry, I realise the importance of the event, but essential services like this should be excluded from such stopages if not for maintenence reasons.

One thing I noticed about Commex trips I've been taking in recent time is that it gets unusually crowded as early as Sta. Mesa (before even crossing the Pasig River!). I guess one factor to it is the fact that the train is pulling only as few as 4 carriages; not too long ago, it had as many as 5 or even 6! Well... that's how I observe it anyway - but I noticed with 5 or 6 carriages it didn't use to get that crowded that soon

Sadly it is a result of lack of continued maintenence, the recently rebuilt ROW will be the same, that means the slow decrease in carriages.
Regretfully the carriages expected from Japan will also take the same path.

Disgraceful.

I'm sorry, I realise the importance of the event, but essential services like this should be excluded from such stopages if not for maintenence reasons.

Relax....... if you have been in Manila during the Holy week, it is literal to say that it is a ghost town... Nobody needs to use the Tututban to alabang routes... If ever you needed to travel, use the bus... Filipinos lived without those trains for years, it won't hurt them to now.

Relax....... if you have been in Manila during the Holy week, it is literal to say that it is a ghost town... Nobody needs to use the Tututban to alabang routes... If ever you needed to travel, use the bus... Filipinos lived without those trains for years, it won't hurt them to now.

I am fully relaxed. Why would I be otherwise?

You mean to tell me that not anyone needs to travel during this event? Nobody works, the whole place shuts down economically?

Are all other essential services shutting down for it?

If ever you needed to travel, use the bus... Filipinos lived without those trains for years, it won't hurt them to now.

Interesting.
Maybe the cost of Northrail can be spent elsewhere, afterall, they have done without it for many, many years.

Interesting.
Maybe the cost of Northrail can be spent elsewhere, afterall, they have done without it for many, many years.

Don't turn it into a fallacious argument.... we're talking 4 days of suspension not scuttling the line...................

I am fully relaxed. Why would I be otherwise?

You mean to tell me that not anyone needs to travel during this event? Nobody works, the whole place shuts down economically?

Are all other essential services shutting down for it?

If you have been here and live here? YES....... Even the Filipino's beloved Shopping Mall is closed... If you happen to have a brain hemorage, there is no neurosurgeon available unless you are filthy rich..........

Don't turn it into a fallacious argument.... we're talking 4 days of suspension not scuttling the line...................

But why?
You have not said if nobody wants to use a train, or the who place just shuts down economically?

Will they be utilizing the time for the desperate track maintenence that is needed?

I'm sorry, but even Christmas in most countries is not an excuse to shut down essential services nowdays.
I think its a safe bet that the trains would still see some great patronage numbers, compared to other major cities, if they were to operate.

You have since answered my question.

What about the Philippines huge growth in tele-marketers and company service phone representatives?
Hope I don't have any Telstra, Intergral, Optus, 3 or similar problems over Holy Week. Nobody will answer my call :)

You have since answered my question.

What about the Philippines huge growth in tele-marketers and company service phone representatives?
Hope I don't have any Telstra, Intergral, Optus, 3 or similar problems over Holy Week. Nobody will answer my call :)

The call centers provide their agents shuttle services via bus, taxi fare reimbursement or some have cars... Mojacko did say they will use the time for maintenance and checking the line.

The call centers provide their agents shuttle services via bus, taxi fare reimbursement or some have cars... Mojacko did say they will use the time for maintenance and checking the line.

Wow, shame my nieces in the call centres are not subject to such benefits - according to them anyway (which may or may not be the same bollocks I'm often fed).

This is great news. This will obviously lead to all those decaying and dangerous sections being rebuilt. Will check that out in May.

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4084/69280721.jpg


The above ad circa 1928 promotes Mayon Volcano while actively erupting. The ad was published a year after the Manila Railroad company promoted "Bicol Express". The Manila Railroad Company started using "Express" after they used oil-fired locomotives. The trip starts with a train ride from Paco to Aloneros, Guinayangan, Quezon. A night boat to Pasacao, Camarines Sur along the Ragay Gulf, then motor drive to Pamplona, Camarines Sur. The last leg of the travel is a train ride from Pamplona to Legaspi City or Tabaco, Albay.


Source (http://peoplesrepublicofguinayangan.blogspot.com/2009/07/railway-ad-circa-1928-quezon-and-bicol.html)

I really like this ad. Very classy yung pagkakagawa. Ang ganda ng choice of words. Ang galing nung pagkakabenta sa Bicol as a top tourist destination.
Sana makagawa ulit sila ng ganyan.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5310/5621162830_1ddfe4db0b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5026/5621162826_13a223d5d1.jpg

^^ SPC station has been transformed into a manukan :nuts:

Disgraceful.

I'm sorry, I realise the importance of the event, but essential services like this should be excluded from such stopages if not for maintenence reasons.

Don't worry Ser Brad, Metro Manila during Holy Week is like a ghost tow as people head to the provinces or Boracay :nuts: You can drive in EDSA 100kph in broad daylight :lol:

Mabuti pa ang south rail , napag-uusapan kahit wala pang nasisimulan , ang NR Dedma lang.:lol::nuts:

Ano ba, wala pa ang SR. Weirdo yang project na yan eh, Narrow tapos sa tabi eh Standard. :nuts::nuts::nuts:

manok mania ba mga taga san pablo?

Palikpiks
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff419/MichaelGeorgeCacho/palikpik.jpg

Why do people separate replies when they can just edit their posts.

Nahihilo ka na din no? :nuts:

Ako?

Uu. Tignan mo yung nireplyan ko. :nuts:

Ang labo! :| Question. Ddouble rail ba nila ang buong system?

NR pa lang ang may double-track. Same as Tutuban-Sucat. Pero dapat may double track na sa Alabang-Calamba area.

Dapat lahat double track.

Commuter lines lang ang double track eh. Hindi naman maya't-maya ang byahe ng Manila-Bicol.

Pero pag na double track kasi nila yan, pwede silang mag invite ng ibang companies para magpatakbo rin ng rail services.

Guys check this out..found this in thailand thread
heres the link:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=935054&page=13

How is this related to railroads?

Guys check this out..found this in thailand thread
heres the link:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=935054&page=13



^^this article isn't supposed to be here.....Military is not connected with the Railways...:)


Anyway, ano latest??:)

Ganun pa din po. Manila-Naga will resume na on June.

good evening Pinoy railfans! :)

passing through Buendia PNR station minutes ago: BW 5001(?), hauling the DMT (police caboose plus several flatbeds), on her way back to Tutuban from the south. :)

^^^ Any pics?

^^ sorry Sir. i failed to capture the moment the DMT passed through the area.

Bakit ba lahat nag s-sir?! Hello?!?! 15-year old here!

good evening Pinoy railfans! :)

passing through Buendia PNR station minutes ago: BW 5001(?), hauling the DMT (police caboose plus several flatbeds), on her way back to Tutuban from the south. :)

So 5001 was the loco which I heard in LB going Southbound. Presumably delivered rails to Lucena Shed.

Share ko lang sa inyo...

3_BN7gm4SLA

Ano ang say ng mga dating taga-Bicutan dito >:)

Dapat lahat double track.

Where?

Commuter lines lang ang double track eh. Hindi naman maya't-maya ang byahe ng Manila-Bicol.

That's not always the case. There are also huge cargo trains that are capable of ferrying all kinds of goods like vehicles that shares with the commuter lines w/ commuter trains.

A double track railway usually involves running one track in each direction, compared to a single track railway where trains in both directions share the same track.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_track

Share ko lang sa inyo...

3_BN7gm4SLA

Ano ang say ng mga dating taga-Bicutan dito >:)

Anak ng tinola yan ha... Sa thailand ito di ba?

Ganun pa din po. Manila-Naga will resume na on June.

^^ Will resume operation or will resume rehabilitation? :nuts:

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PNR 915 on yellow and green livery park at tayuman shed year 80's, Nasa magandang kundisyon pa lahat ng mga GE U15 Series.

Sigurado naba ang June for the revenue run ng Manila - naga service?

Bakit ba lahat nag s-sir?! Hello?!?! 15-year old here!

Common courtesy lang naman. Gusto mo bang i-hoy? :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:

^^^ sanay na naman ako eh :P

Sa Japan meron na rin silang tinanggal na two set of locomotive yung type DD51 nila na humihila sa mga slepper train, at mukhang pwede pa sana makasama yun sa ibibigay sa atin maski papano laking tulong na rin sa mga locomotive natin, at tamang tama hindi na kailangan pang baguhin ang livery dagil blue na ito lagyan na lang ng orange line at logo pwede na.

^^ Eh sir, electric locos po sila.

^^

hinila dati ang mga sleepers ng DD51 pati nga commex hinila na rin nila in past........

^^ Eh sir, electric locos po sila.

Diesel po sila kaya nga type DD sila, dahil ang mga electric loco. naman ay type EF at ED, marami talagang tren sa japan ang tinatanggal nasa serbisyo but in good condition pa.:)

Ay, hindi ko po kasi alam ang ibig sabihin ng mga abbrev na yun. Pardon me. :lol:

Sa mga pics kasi ng Hokuriku, electric locos ang humihila sa kanila. I dunno in the past, though.

Disgraceful.

I'm sorry, I realise the importance of the event, but essential services like this should be excluded from such stopages if not for maintenence reasons.

people usually stays at home or use the ports and airports for vacation.

people usually stays at home or use the ports and airports for vacation.

At least it justifies the road transport lobby and its push for fare increases and desire for no rail infrastructure improvements.

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PNR 915 on yellow orange and green livery park at tayuman shed year 80's, Nasa magandang kundisyon pa lahat ng mga GE U15 Series.

Orange?
I was unaware the yellow and green utilised orange.

^^ SPC station has been transformed into a manukan :nuts:



Don't worry Ser Brad, Metro Manila during Holy Week is like a ghost tow as people head to the provinces or Boracay :nuts: You can drive in EDSA 100kph in broad daylight :lol:

Sounds like the perfect time to visit and practise driving around the capital :lol:

New Liveries

With the Philippines undergoing so many livery changes, thought I would share a brand new one here that is very catching, although somewhat impractical (especially in coal traffic).
The following were taken of recent repaints during a big day trip south on Saturday.

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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5105/5628954076_af3b2fd020.jpg

In the last shot they are seen behind preserved 4716 and 4204, the latter being a classin Bulldog EMD.
Looking forward to seeing 902 restored like this one day.

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Orange?
I was unaware the yellow and green utilised orange.

I'm sorry for that, I noticed it was pure yello with green.:)

Tanong lang bakit hindi na sinasabak si 917 para hilahin ang commex? nasa caloocan rin ba sya o nakabalik nasa tutuban?

Nasa Hondagua ngayon si 917. Nagbabakasyon. :lol:

Nasa Hondagua ngayon si 917. Nagbabakasyon. :lol:

Ano naman ang ginagawa nya roon, kasama ba sya sa mga nag aayos ng riles at sa mga clearing na ginagawa, eh si 2535 naman bakit hindi sya ginagamit muli para humila sa commex pero dati isang beses ko syang nakita na sya ang humila but later palagian si 919 na ang humahatak.

Si 915 ba sinisimulan ng ayusin sa caloocan yard.

Ano naman ang ginagawa nya roon, kasama ba sya sa mga nag aayos ng riles at sa mga clearing na ginagawa, eh si 2535 naman bakit hindi sya ginagamit muli para humila sa commex pero dati isang beses ko syang nakita na sya ang humila but later palagian si 919 na ang humahatak.

Dalawa po yata sila ni 916 na nag-aayos. SI 2535 hindi na daw po kaya mag-hila ng Commex trip kaya palaging si 919 na lang daw po. At opo, sinisimulan na din daw pong ayusin si 915.

ibabalik kaya yung dati nyang busina ni 915 na two tone note..Pang bicol at commex na ang datin nila.

me bagong pakulo ang PNR at jolibee sa Alabang station for min purchase na 150 sa jolibee present pati ticket ng PNR me raffle entry ka na for chance of winning Cherry mobile phones

^^

I think major station improvements would really help the image and ridership of the PNR, but right now, are they still lacking in passengers? It seems like those trains are always full.

Nagkaroon ba bicol trip last weekend? Umuwi kasi ako sa probinsya nung weekend, parang me narinig kasi akong dumaan na tren malapit sa amin.

PD: Well, siguro kulang pa..

^^

I think major station improvements would really help the image and ridership of the PNR, but right now, are they still lacking in passengers? It seems like those trains are always full.

Surely a lack of passengers would not be a concern :)
I reckon capacity could be tripled and still no lack be experienced.

A great position for a railway operator to be in.
However the lack of capacity does loose them a lot of money.

Surely a lack of passengers would not be a concern :)
I reckon capacity could be tripled and still no lack be experienced.

A great position for a railway operator to be in.
However the lack of capacity does loose them a lot of money.

Problem with PNR today, it is still run as a public service rather than a pure commercial interest. The LRT and MRT's are somewhat in the middle of being a commercial operation..... Case in point, the current GM Ragragio was interviewed on TV on why the PNR was not asking for a fare hike and his response was "we do not need it, with current pricing and ridership we can break even"......

Who in the world wants to operate on break even basis if not only for purely humanitarian and public service right? This is where the lack of foresight and innovation is glaring.... If I was the GM, i would demand a fare hike now, make a profit and then in turn drive the extra revenue and profit into making the stations better (i.e. more commercially viable to rent out) and also subsidize railway rehab up to Bicol....

What do we expect of government employees anyway though? Everyone tries to be the hero for the masa.... This is why I vote to privatize the PNR even if we're only talking the southrail legs Caloocan to Calamba laguna.... Any profit sharing the government can get out of that operation can subsidize non-viable lines until they become viable.

Problem with PNR today, it is still run as a public service rather than a pure commercial interest. The LRT and MRT's are somewhat in the middle of being a commercial operation..... Case in point, the current GM Ragragio was interviewed on TV on why the PNR was not asking for a fare hike and his response was "we do not need it, with current pricing and ridership we can break even"......

Who in the world wants to operate on break even basis if not only for purely humanitarian and public service right? This is where the lack of foresight and innovation is glaring.... If I was the GM, i would demand a fare hike now, make a profit and then in turn drive the extra revenue and profit into making the stations better (i.e. more commercially viable to rent out) and also subsidize railway rehab up to Bicol....

What do we expect of government employees anyway though? Everyone tries to be the hero for the masa.... This is why I vote to privatize the PNR even if we're only talking the southrail legs Caloocan to Calamba laguna.... Any profit sharing the government can get out of that operation can subsidize non-viable lines until they become viable.

Hiya S40,
While privitization does scare me a bit, I do fully agree with you.

Its fair enough for the current fare to allow them to break even. But they need to more than break even, they need to invest, upgrade, expand and maintain.
You are 500% correct. They do need to raise the fares to continue this development and to be a bit more self sustaining. There is no guarantee that any future government is going to be inclined to throw money at them to keep going.
It even seemed a battle to get Noynoy to open the moth filled purse to obtain more second hand rollingstock and rail upgrades.

Privatization does seem the sole hope for the Philippine railways, with government (or overseas) assistence with expanding the system to such locations as Pagsanjan again.
Perhaps even the privatization of the rail assets seperate to the operators, with access fees charged. The rail owning company would utilize this money to maintain and extend, gaining more income as the passenger and freight operators expand. Afterall, improvments is in the companies best interest.

Example ARTC (http://www.artc.com.au/default.aspx?p=1)

I suppose we can just wait and hope that privatization comes, fixes the problems, delivers a world class rail system - but without world class price rises each year.
Because the Calamba to Legaspi runs will not be breaking even with just two services a day, not even Alabang to Calamba if just having the one return journey as was the case before.

Does PNR have a manager in charge of seeking out freight opportunities?

Has PNR been actively seeking freight rollingstock, especially container flats, for use should any of these opportunities arise? Or solely looking at less money returning passenger stock?

Could the inland port (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_port) idea be of benefit to Manila roads and port activities. A brilliant concept in which PNR could excel.
Inland ports located north and south of Manila, removing a large amount of trucks from already clogged city streets?

Who in the world wants to operate on break even basis if not only for purely humanitarian and public service right? This is where the lack of foresight and innovation is glaring.... If I was the GM, i would demand a fare hike now, make a profit and then in turn drive the extra revenue and profit into making the stations better (i.e. more commercially viable to rent out) and also subsidize railway rehab up to Bicol....



Agree on fare hike to improve the revenue take of the PNR.

Plus, the PNR GM should at least start identifying stations that can be rented out to advertisers or operators of convenience stores.Again to get additional revenues.

Mabait naman ang GM ngayon. So why not suggest those on him? :)

Mabait naman ang GM ngayon. So why not suggest those on him? :)

May get blacklisted again :)

Seriously though, it can't hurt to put ideas to him for the betterment of railways. Hopefully he can be moved away from his 'break even' outlook.

Plus, the PNR GM should at least start identifying stations that can be rented out to advertisers or operators of convenience stores.Again to get additional revenues.

Ticket sales could be made part of any lease agreement, thus relieving PNR of the burden of ticket seller wages. The stations could theoretically be good money spinners for a smartly run PNR.

Add advertising manager to my question about freight managers above.

^^ Ticket selling has already been outsourced, as far as I know.

Mi Kumusta de Huwades Assocacion de ferrocariles el makasariles!!!!

Mabait naman ang GM ngayon. So why not suggest those on him? :)

Di kausapin mo si GM! Di puro salita pati kay MP kausapin nyo.. pati mga valued passengers sa tutuban???Di naman kayo makalapit eh.... kasi nakatunganga kayo sa forum nyoTry nyo naman baka masarap magpalamig dun...

Nagkaroon ba bicol trip last weekend? Umuwi kasi ako sa probinsya nung weekend, parang me narinig kasi akong dumaan na tren malapit sa amin.

PD: Well, siguro kulang pa..

DMT yun baka si 916....

Dalawa po yata sila ni 916 na nag-aayos. SI 2535 hindi na daw po kaya mag-hila ng Commex trip kaya palaging si 919 na lang daw po. At opo, sinisimulan na din daw pong ayusin si 915.

Bakit naman mahina, diba pinalitan ang makina nito at overhauled talaga, pero kung talagang di pwede na ano sya pang shunting na lang ba o isasabak pa rin sa byahe

For emergency purposes si 2535, 5001, at 5009.

Di kausapin mo si GM! Di puro salita pati kay MP kausapin nyo.. pati mga valued passengers sa tutuban???Di naman kayo makalapit eh.... kasi nakatunganga kayo sa forum nyoTry nyo naman baka masarap magpalamig dun...

Huwag mo naman gawing personal ang pagkaka-ban mo, Kuya. Trabaho lang naman eh.

The bikers cheer on as the PNR goes southbound across España Boulevard :)

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repost ^^

Di kausapin mo si GM! Di puro salita pati kay MP kausapin nyo.. pati mga valued passengers sa tutuban???Di naman kayo makalapit eh.... kasi nakatunganga kayo sa forum nyoTry nyo naman baka masarap magpalamig dun...

yun bang "pakikipag-usap" na tinutukoy mo ay isang rally?

Call ako sa suggestion na ito...

Maybe we should submit a letter addressed to the GM (via RIHSPI, o pwede rin hindi). It would be better if we can submit a mini-feasibility study regarding this, pero kung hindi kaya, ok lang rin.

Maganda rin siguro na parang lagyan ng direct link from Metropolis Starmall to the PNR station sa Alabang, just like the LRT and MRT stations na naka-augment sa mga mall. :)

Tama kailangan nga ng tulong ang GM sa mga ganyan mahirap din naman malagay sa situation nya. Pero hindi naman maganda kung mangagaling lang sa isang tao. Maganda kung collective idea ng mga forumers dito ang i submit sa GM. Mga suggestions na maayos para coherent naman. Di naman maganda kung Rhispi lang ang magsasalita, eh yun nga isa sa mga imahe na hinde akma sa grupo na mag mukang diktador sa companya. Kung humingi lang naman ng advice ang PNR okay lang siguro mag bigay ng advice. :cheers:

^Anyway, tapos na ba ang traversia Bridge? :D

DOTC still reviewing Northrail project (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?publicationSubCategoryId=63&articleId=678201)

By Rainier Allan Ronda (The Philippine Star)
Updated April 20, 2011 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Several months after starting a review of the $503-million contract with a Chinese firm for the Northrail project, the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) said discussions are still ongoing to determine the fate of the project.

“We are still in discussions with the Chinese contractor,” said Transportation Secretary Jose de Jesus on the government’s contract with China National Machinery and Equipment Corp. Group (CNMEG).

“We’re looking at the terms of the agreement, the pricing, and so on.” The department had originally set a timetable of six months to review the contract and was expected to release its findings last January. In July last year, President Aquino returned the Northrail project under the supervision of the DOTC and ordered the agency to review the contract with the Chinese firm. During her term, former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had placed the Northrail project under the supervision of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority (BCDA).

Di kausapin mo si GM! Di puro salita pati kay MP kausapin nyo.. pati mga valued passengers sa tutuban???Di naman kayo makalapit eh.... kasi nakatunganga kayo sa forum nyoTry nyo naman baka masarap magpalamig dun...
^^ Tino topak ka nanaman ba? Patingin ka na sa doktor. Malala na yan.. :nuts:

DOTC still reviewing Northrail project

By Rainier Allan Ronda (The Philippine Star)
Updated April 20, 2011 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Several months after starting a review of the $503-million contract with a Chinese firm for the Northrail project, the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) said discussions are still ongoing to determine the fate of the project.

“We are still in discussions with the Chinese contractor,” said Transportation Secretary Jose de Jesus on the government’s contract with China National Machinery and Equipment Corp. Group (CNMEG).

“We’re looking at the terms of the agreement, the pricing, and so on.” The department had originally set a timetable of six months to review the contract and was expected to release its findings last January. In July last year, President Aquino returned the Northrail project under the supervision of the DOTC and ordered the agency to review the contract with the Chinese firm. During her term, former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had placed the Northrail project under the supervision of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority (BCDA).

Does this mean more feasibility studies?

Railfan din po, share ko lang.


Sana ganito gawin ng PNR

Amtrak taps into rail fan base to boost security (http://www.cnbc.com/id/42652703)

BALTIMORE - Amtrak is tapping into the rail fan community to help keep the nation's passenger railroad safe.

Through a new program dubbed Partners for Amtrak Safety and Security being launched Tuesday, Amtrak will recruit people who are already watching and riding trains to keep an eye out for suspicious activity on trains and around stations and tracks.

Passengers and rail fans can register online to participate in the "neighborhood watch style program." They'll be issued membership cards and learn more about what safety and security concerns they should look out for and how to report them.

Rail fans — or "railfans" as they call themselves — are the ideal candidates for the program, Amtrak Police Chief John O'Connor said Monday. They're already out watching trains and tracks across the country every day and will notice if something is amiss.

"They know sometimes better than our employees," he said. "They know engine numbers and car numbers and time tables. They know better than the fisherman knows the tides."

The program grew out of a forum with Amtrak executives organized by Trains magazine last year. In the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, people who watched and photographed rail operations were sometimes viewed with suspicion and that led to tension between rail fans and railroads.

The forum was meant to help foster dialogue between rail fans and Amtrak, according to Trains associate editor Andy Cummings. Amtrak officials were impressed with the enthusiasm they saw and decided to create a program like this, O'Connor said.

Rail fans will sign up for PASS because they want formalize their relationship with the railroad, Cummings said.

"People want to feel connected to the railroad in some way," he said. "Up to now, the railfan's role and connection has been ambiguous. Generally, there have been some suspicions about what their motives are."

Amtrak's new initiative is based on Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway's Citizens for Rail Security program, which launched in 2006, O'Conner said.

BNSF's security team recognized the value of supplementing the vigilance of railroad's 38,000 employees with the large, passionate group of train enthusiasts, according to BNSF spokesman Steve Forsberg.

"We saw the railfans as potential allies," he said. "They have a shared interest with the railroad."

Since the program began, the more than 10,000 members CRS members have reported everything from potential suicides, trespassers, lost children, suspicious activity and stolen equipment, Forsberg said.

Steve Glischinski, a correspondent for Trains based in St. Paul, Minn., joined BNSF's program because he wanted to help and he has found staff to be very responsive when he reported broken gates at crossings and spotting a person on a gondola.

"We like the railroad. Instead of them hassling us about being near the railroad, they were saying, 'No, you can be our eyes and ears,'" he said.

Glischinski has traveled around the country to photograph trains in action, getting to know how the rail systems work in the process.

"You can tell when something isn't right or if someone is where they aren't supposed to be," he said.

Amtrak's new initiative will help get past the antagonistic relationship between railroad and rail fans and take advantage of a valuable asset, Glischinski said.

"The good news is that they are recognizing that we can help them, not hurt them," he said. "I hope other railroads follow suit."

Magaling, magaling maganda ngang idea yan. :cheers:

good morning Pinoy railfans! :)

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PNR and railfans like us should be partners. we can work hand-in-hand in ensuring that the Philippines will have an efficient and safe rail transport system.

good morning Pinoy railfans! :)

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PNR and railfans like us should be partners. we can work hand-in-hand in ensuring that the Philippines will have an efficient and safe rail transport system.

It is a great idea in theory, a similar thing happened here with a private company wishing to keep track of asset use.
Rampant paranoia will probably mean it won't happen with PNR, like many of the operators here.
As someone who 'used' to ring and report wrong doings on the railway here, I can see the benefit of using those who support railways to the benefit of your operation. I personally have saved some bigger hassles for operators and track companies and know many more who have done the same - however the advantage of this fre service seems to be lost on many.

Does this mean more feasibility studies?

Review lang ng contract.

Tama kailangan nga ng tulong ang GM sa mga ganyan mahirap din naman malagay sa situation nya. Pero hindi naman maganda kung mangagaling lang sa isang tao. Maganda kung collective idea ng mga forumers dito ang i submit sa GM. Mga suggestions na maayos para coherent naman. Di naman maganda kung Rhispi lang ang magsasalita, eh yun nga isa sa mga imahe na hinde akma sa grupo na mag mukang diktador sa companya. Kung humingi lang naman ng advice ang PNR okay lang siguro mag bigay ng advice. :cheers:

Sadly the Google translator i at its pathetic best, but it says that RIHSPI should be the voice.
If this is the case, I would suggest probably not and I imagine President and board would say same. They are a historical group, not an advocacy group.
This would be better served coming through a properly set up advocacy group, removed from the heritage side of things. There is a number of them there, including the new one that everyone here sems happy to abuse each time they post.

^^ Ticket selling has already been outsourced, as far as I know.

Ahh Ok.
So the current ticket sellers must also take a cut out of ticket sales. Though it could not be much given the low cost of the fares.
It would be seriously interesting to see the costs ratio of the tickets for seller and PNR if this is the case.

Sadly the Google translator i at its pathetic best, but it says that RIHSPI should be the voice.
If this is the case, I would suggest probably not and I imagine President and board would say same. They are a historical group, not an advocacy group.
This would be better served coming through a properly set up advocacy group, removed from the heritage side of things. There is a number of them there, including the new one that everyone here sems happy to abuse each time they post.

Hello sir Brad :), yes Google translator is not correct and made you misinterpret what I was saying. I meant that good minded people in the forum might form some kind of collective ideas to help the GM. And Rhispi should not do that because that would make the society's image not good with the management, and we know that. Only if PNR would ask some advice from the society it will be their decision and not the society's. :cheers:

^^ NOSEBLEED. :nuts: :nuts:

Hello sir Brad :), yes Google translator is not correct and made you misinterpret what I was saying. I meant that good minded people in the forum might form some kind of collective ideas to help the GM. And Rhispi should not do that because that would make the society's image not good with the management and we know that. Only if PNR would ask some advice from the society it will be their decision and not the society. :cheers:

I dream of the perfect translator one day :lol:

I fully agree with you. I just read Hatfield's post and thought (via that translator thingie) that it was a continuence in agreement.

What would be great is a overall unbiased transportation advocacy group.
There are three groups existing there to my knowledge, only learnt about the third yesterday.
The group should work on serious solutions, ideas and proposals for all the transport, but avoid fighting against plans of operators (raising fares etc). While all price rises are probably not liked, this is, in the end, up to the operator. A more proactive and positive group could achieve a lot, or at the very least, have their proposals heard.

There is so many good things that could be done, but it would be great to see it worked as an entire transport solution, not just one mode or another, which is how the actual transport operators tend to think most of the time.

^^ NOSEBLEED. :nuts: :nuts:

http://moneysavingmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/211_kleenex.jpg

Joke only :lol:

I checked out how my post in question ended up in the translator, and turned out be a gimirish thought. :lol:

@1105 sana tinulungan mo kasi ako... :nuts:

http://moneysavingmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/211_kleenex.jpg

Joke only :lol:

oh...save some for the google translator...:lol:

:lol: :lol:

Can't help it but laugh. Kasi naman Kuya Shrane, hindi ko naman kaagad nabasa yung message mo. :nuts:

I checked out how my post in question ended up in the translator, and turned out be a gimirish thought. :lol:

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It seems to have varying levels of success, but the longer pieces always seem to be the worst.
Have occasionally tried words my asawa has taught me, but even some of them it does not know - even the non-rude ones :lol:

They did improve it a while back, and while it did improve a little, it had a long way to go before reaching Star Trek translating technology :)

Ahh Ok.
So the current ticket sellers must also take a cut out of ticket sales. Though it could not be much given the low cost of the fares.
It would be seriously interesting to see the costs ratio of the tickets for seller and PNR if this is the case.

Ticket sellers now receive fixed salaries from the company where they were outsourced to. When they were still PNR employees, they were entitled to a certain percentage of ticket sales, which in some cases for some stations can reach as high as P10,000 in a single day. I'm not sure how much this was, though.

^^ Is the PNR contract with Omni still valid or was this outsourced to another company?

Bakit nga pala nawala yung E-ticket ng PNR?

Does PNR have a manager in charge of seeking out freight opportunities?

Has PNR been actively seeking freight rollingstock, especially container flats, for use should any of these opportunities arise? Or solely looking at less money returning passenger stock?

Could the inland port (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_port) idea be of benefit to Manila roads and port activities. A brilliant concept in which PNR could excel.
Inland ports located north and south of Manila, removing a large amount of trucks from already clogged city streets?

Timely suggestion sir.

^^ Is the PNR contract with Omni still valid or was this outsourced to another company?

As far as I know, it's still Omni Prime.

^^ Tino topak ka nanaman ba? Patingin ka na sa doktor. Malala na yan.. :nuts:
Kayo ang tinotopak mga FAKERS Assholes di kayo paniniwalaan ng nakakarami...Hindot Pwe!

Nagkukulong kasi kayo sa nabibitak nyong samahan...Para kayong nasa faultline abay labas na baka kainin kayo ng lupa kasama ng mga wala ng pakinabang na nabubulok na bagay.

yun bang "pakikipag-usap" na tinutukoy mo ay isang rally?
E tungaw ka pala. Nakinig lang kami sa forum di naman rally yun KUNDI PUBLIC CONSULTATION!! kung ano mga saloobin ng mga ibat ibang panig kung ano nararamdaman dyan.... Punta kayo kaya sa atimonan ng pag me humaharurot na bus masabuyan ng putik ng lubak ng kalsada ng maharlika hiway...Kung gaano kahirap maging pangakaraniwang commuter o byahero..

Hay nako ewan ko sa inyo mga hindi bukas ang isipan para sa masa..Di nyo nga naranasan nung college na ang baon lang 50php 2006-08 era pa yan...makaturangan ba na lahat itaas kung sahod ng ordinaryong mang gagawa di rin nakakahabol sa pagtaas ng mga bilihin....


HINDI KAYO PWEDENG MAGING PUBLIC SERVANT!!!! UTAK KAPITALISTA!!!

Hay nako ewan ko sa inyo mga hindi bukas ang isipan para sa masa..Di nyo nga naranasan nung college na ang baon lang 50php 2006-08 era pa yan...makaturangan ba na lahat itaas kung sahod ng ordinaryong mang gagawa di rin nakakahabol sa pagtaas ng mga bilihin....


HINDI KAYO PWEDENG MAGING PUBLIC SERVANT!!!! UTAK KAPITALISTA!!!

kung hindi kikita ang kapitalista, wala kang tren na sasakyan. kaya ang sasama ng tren dito, puro "isipin ang masa" ang mentalidad.

kapitalista din ang mga jeepney operator at driver. pinagkakakitaan din nila mga pasaherong katulad mo. pano ba yan? edi maglalakad ka na lang? :lol:

kung hindi kikita ang kapitalista, wala kang tren na sasakyan. kaya ang sasama ng tren dito, puro "isipin ang masa" ang mentalidad.

kapitalista din ang mga jeepney operator at driver. pinagkakakitaan din nila mga pasaherong katulad mo. pano ba yan? edi maglalakad ka na lang? :lol:

Ang tinatanong dyan kung di papatawan ng presyong ginto ang pamasahe. e alam mo naman diba. di ko naman sinasabing libre. KUNDI ABOT KAYA!!!!ng LAHAT..PAMASAHE...

Oo nga kung ihahalintulad mo nalang sa mga tollways ang karilisan sasakay kapa nyan kung mas malupit pa sa pamasahe na 71.00 mula cubao to calamba na tren na gusto presyong ginto.. manila calamba 100???? Lupit naman nun...

Mas tatangkilikin nalang nila ang me wifi enabled bus..me CR...atbp....Kung magkakaganyan..

Tamad na kasi pamahalaan ng estado ang mga public utilities kaya nagkakaganyan...

Kaya nararapat ba puro PRIVATE PROPERTY NALANG ang mga public service.

Kayo ang tinotopak mga FAKERS Assholes di kayo paniniwalaan ng nakakarami...Hindot Pwe!

Nagkukulong kasi kayo sa nabibitak nyong samahan...Para kayong nasa faultline abay labas na baka kainin kayo ng lupa kasama ng mga wala ng pakinabang na nabubulok na bagay.

Wag na mainit ulo. Wala ka nmn talaga sa katwiran e. Kng magtataas nmn ay nasa katwiran nmn siguro. Saka yaan nlng natin ang mamayan kng san nila gusto sumakay kng sakasakaling magtaas pamasahe sa tren. Di lahat nng sinasbi mo sa pasahero ay pabor syo. Buti ka pa nga na kakapagpost ka pa dito at nakita ko pa sa mga post mo na nag iinuman kyo.

Kng sa pagtaas nng presyo ng mga alak ay di kayo nagrereklamo. Sa pagtaas nmn nng pamasahe ay dami mng talak.:cheers::lol::lol:

Ang talagang wala ay ang walang wala.:nuts::nuts::nuts:

Meeting with National Council for Commuters Protection

Ang pag uusap ng Philippine Railways at NCCP ay para sa kapakanan ng mga train commuters. At lalaban ang anumang fare hike sa mga train. Suportahan ang hakbang na ito para sa mamayang Pilipino!
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Ang pag uusap ng Philippine Railways at ng National Council for Commuters Protection sa DOTC Building, ay para tulungan ang mga train commuters at makatulong din sa ating railway system sa bansa. Layunin din ng pag uusap ay para harangin ang anumang fare hike sa mga tren at railway electrification sa PNR na dapat nang simulan para sa ikakabuti ng ating mamayan. Sa darating na Mayo 2011, balak magtaas ng pasahe ang MRT at LRT at pinaplano namin ang pag harang dito para sa mamayan. Maraming salamat sa Department of Transport and Communications at National Council for Commuters Protection. GOD BE THE GLORY!

List of PNR Diesel Locomotive

900 Series

902
906
911
913
914
915
916
917
918
919
920
921
922

2500 Series


2535
2538
2540

5000 Series

5001
5002
5003
5004
5005
5006
5007
5008
5009
5010


Credits to M.C


http://philippinerailways.blogspot.com/2011/04/list-of-pnr-diesel-locomotive.html

Kayo ang tinotopak mga FAKERS Assholes di kayo paniniwalaan ng nakakarami...Hindot Pwe!

Nagkukulong kasi kayo sa nabibitak nyong samahan...Para kayong nasa faultline abay labas na baka kainin kayo ng lupa kasama ng mga wala ng pakinabang na nabubulok na bagay.

^^ Ang kapal talaga ng bungo mo. Kaya pala wala nang space para sa utak mo. Sour graping ka lang dahil nabuking ang 2nd account mo. Reklamo ka ng reklamo tungkol sa RIHSPI. Pero pasok ka naman ng pasok sa forum. Gumawa ka pa ng 2nd account para lang makapasok ulit.

Masyado kang reklamador. Magtago ka na lang sa lungga mo kasama ni buddy panot!