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riles28

May 11th, 2009, 04:33 PM

Ay ganun. Sayang naman, kala ko may CR. Parang Tora-tora Coaches din lang pala na may aircon. Pero mas maganda pa rin siya sa Tora-tora Coaches... :)

Walang CR Yang mga ganyan tren maski yung tora tora ay wala talagang CR yan noong DMU pa yan noong way back 1980 actually inimprovise lang nila yun dahil ni remake lang nila ang Old DMU para maging Tora tora coaches ang talagang may CR Facility lamang ay ang mga Blue coaches dahil ito nga ay ginagamit sa mga long distance operation. At yung Commuter Express na sinasabi mo ay pwede pa rin naman ang mga Blue coaches pero may pili lang na mga station ang hihintuan na nito once na kasabay nitong mag operate ang mga bagong DMU Train. Pero tingnan pa rin natin kung magkakaroon ng ganito byahe kasi sa ngayon talaga ay tutukan ng PNR ay ang operation ng bagong tren at ang pagbabalik ng Bicol service and yung New DMU ay aabot rin yan sa Calamba once na maayos na ang riles at tulay papunta riyan dahil ito ang nasa plano at ganito rin naman talaga ang operation from Tayuman - Calamba.

wheel of steel

May 11th, 2009, 04:34 PM

Walang CR Yang mga ganyan tren maski yung tora tora ay wala talagang CR yan noong DMU pa yan noong way back 1980 actually inimprovise lang nila yun dahil ni remake lang nila ang Old DMU para maging Tora tora coaches ang talagang may CR Facility lamang ay ang mga Blue coaches dahil ito nga ay ginagamit sa mga long distance operation. At yung Commuter Express na sinasabi mo ay pwede pa rin naman ang mga Blue coaches pero may pili lang na mga station ang hihintuan na nito once na kasabay nitong mag operate ang mga bagong DMU Train. Pero tingnan pa rin natin kung magkakaroon ng ganito byahe kasi sa ngayon talaga ay tutukan ng PNR ay ang operation ng bagong tren at ang pagbabalik ng Bicol service and yung New DMU ay aabot rin yan sa Calamba once na maayos na ang riles at tulay papunta riyan dahil ito ang nasa plano at ganito rin naman talaga ang operation from Tayuman - Calamba.

That's correct Mr. Rail by age of 28. :)

wheel of steel

May 11th, 2009, 04:38 PM

This will be the future look of the Valenzuela Northrail Viaduct..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3415/3313590524_1f0c96fe97_o.jpg

Cheever

May 11th, 2009, 04:40 PM

riles28

May 11th, 2009, 04:45 PM

This will be the future look of the Valenzuela Northrail Viaduct..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3415/3313590524_1f0c96fe97_o.jpg

Wow pwede talaga rito umandar ang mga JR Train kapag nagkataon dahil elevated at makakatakbo ito ng full speed. Pero Sir Wheel talagang bang balik nasa narrow gauage ang riles na gagamitin for Northrail system?

wheel of steel

May 11th, 2009, 04:46 PM

Okey... :)

Ang ganda talaga ni Mr. Rail mg Tagalog. I thank him so much. I become used to it already here that this thread becomes so interesting in our daily lives. Sooner or later, right from my phone, magrereply ako just to make a fresh post.. :lol: But always in Tagalog.... :cheers:

riles28

May 11th, 2009, 04:47 PM

Update nga pala as of May 11, 2009 Nakita ko si 5002 Yata yun na may hilang mga flatcar from Blumentriit Station may dinala yata sila mga ballast at nag check na rin ng linya.

wheel of steel

May 11th, 2009, 04:50 PM

Wow pwede talaga rito umandar ang mga JR Train kapag nagkataon dahil elevated at makakatakbo ito ng full speed. Pero Sir Wheel talagang bang balik nasa narrow gauage ang riles na gagamitin for Northrail system?

Yun talaga ang nararamdaman ko tol. Sori gusto ko rin sana na standard pero malabo talaga. Malaki nga lang talaga ang riles kasi yung latest 54kg/m na raw. Dati 50kg/m ang laki na nga. Halos doble ng nilalagay na bago sa may Abad Santos. Tsaka yung sleeper nya ay state of the art. Talagang pang 130kph mag express, airport o cargo....

Sa Malaysia, Thailand at Indonesia, pinakamalaki na ang 50kg/m while sa Vietnam ay 44kg/m. :)

wheel of steel

May 11th, 2009, 04:51 PM

Update nga pala as of May 11, 2009 Nakita ko si 5002 Yata yun na may hilang mga flatcar from Blumentriit Station may dinala yata sila mga ballast at nag check na rin ng linya.

Wow naman, hopefully this week makapunta ako. It sad nga lang nasira yung Camera ko. :ohno:

wheel of steel

May 11th, 2009, 04:53 PM

hehe,sana makapunta me dyan?

riles28

May 11th, 2009, 04:55 PM

Lucentino

May 11th, 2009, 06:23 PM

I have placed some model numbers on there.

The website is just for basic information on what is running.
More railfan friendly details will be in the books we are proposing.

Problem is getting the content we need, especially locomotive and carriage information pre-80s.

Brad

Thanks mate! I have seen the webpages with updated model numbers, but I think you missed updating pages of Series 2500 (http://philippine-fleetlist.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-01-20T17%3A54%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=1) (U10B)... no hurry though... :)

When can we expect the books (mentioned up there)? Is that proposal like the Mindanao railway (hoping stage)? Or the Matnog line (Planning/Feasibility stage)? Or the Southrail (on-hold)? Or ZTE deal (cancelled)? :lol:

I hope, aside from history, it would also cover some technical information regarding locos, DMUs, etc. --- Note: dont forget that @kaelthas have those PNR blueprints as well... :cheers1:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3545/3404572650_490e748c7c.jpg

^Is this the result of this:

Tomorrow I will go to the railway room and get photos of the different plates and what locos they came off.

In the mean time, I am still looking forward to this:

Oh my goodness, don't know who originally drew those drawings, but I have never seen a U10B with a nose before. Indeed if you put a toilet there all the squatters would be laughing at you.
Even that U15 drawing is not correct.
I think they just got one standard Yankie drawing and used it for everything.
I'm sure I have drawing somewhere - hmmm somewhere :lol:

Sorry to drill a bit too much on this uncle Brad. You (and @Mithril Cloud) seem to be my only hope in getting to know our locos more. Before I get pretty tied up with other things, I plan to create a spec-sheet based on info you provide... and yes, diagrams/drawings will be included there (unless somebody stumbles upon a manufacturer's spec-sheet somewhere). :cool:

alcogoodwin

May 12th, 2009, 02:27 AM

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1364/fleet.png (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fleet.png)

Sir Alcogoodwin, is the line between Alabang and Biñan is close?...

It was suspended temporarily. A very short period it transpired and I am unsure the reason why.
Sadly it is impossible to instantly update all the websites regularly.

I shall update that one during the next session.

Thanks

alcogoodwin

May 12th, 2009, 02:29 AM

maybe in the future ,this train will be standing in front of the PNR terminal..hehe just like the good old Dagupan...

May still be possible.
Have had it confirmed that some of the 7E type carriages were still in Caloocan as of February, but all are likely destined for scrap.
Despite a number of railfan visits since, I have not recieved any confirmation of their continued existence.

alcogoodwin

May 12th, 2009, 02:49 AM

When can we expect the books (mentioned up there)? Is that proposal like the Mindanao railway (hoping stage)? Or the Matnog line (Planning/Feasibility stage)? Or the Southrail (on-hold)? Or ZTE deal (cancelled)? :lol:

OK!

Locomotive Book: Linkage project stage.

Carriage Book: Mindanao railway stsge.

Paco Booklet: Bicol line reopening stage.

Seriously though, it all comes down to the help we get from both societies (RIHSPI and Philippine Railways SIG).
The locomotive one can virtually be done with existing information, with some additions.

The carriage one will be hard and never complete. The best we could hope for is some publication with lots of carriage info and photos and hope readers will wish to contribute more.

The location booklets are small booklets with info on specific locations. Besides Paco, we have had no offers to do other locations from anyone.

daily commuter

May 12th, 2009, 03:07 AM

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_174306757l.jpg
(image was cropped from mithril cloud's photo)

Yun plate na nasa ilalim overhead carrier tabi ng window ang ibig ko sabihin. Dalawang number lang ang naka-sulat dyan example 16-window 17-aisle.

Oo nga, wala nga pong middle, hehehe. Gets ko na... :lol:

I have to correct my earlier post regarding seat number. Please see image below.

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_408757214l.jpg

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_396901296l.jpg
^^ (image taken 05/11/09) meaning kahit harapan kayo pare-pareho kayo na passenger # 16, ang difference lang ay kung A, B, C or D ka / window or aisle.

alcogoodwin

May 12th, 2009, 03:09 AM

daily commuter

May 12th, 2009, 03:17 AM

Railroad tracks of Pasay Road Station

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_800443944l.jpg
^^Before (Apr-29-09)

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_703936906l.jpg
^^After (May-12-09)

daily commuter

May 12th, 2009, 03:21 AM

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_197330747l.jpg
Okay na ang both platform at may gang chair na^^. Finishing touches na lang:)

Cheever

May 12th, 2009, 03:25 AM

Lucentino

May 12th, 2009, 04:13 AM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3623/3524152066_f1e0b8e02e.jpg

2531
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3348/3523346101_50c6db6e9a.jpg

5006
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3390/3524152214_f72bed9252.jpg

Another prize collection. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3341/3523346227_9ae29b8fca.jpg

Am I looking at my car's lost plate?! :nuts:

Thanks mate, just can't make out the details of that 5006 plate... :) How are you able to acquire those?

Priceless collection there! (talkin' 'bout the last pic) :cheers1:

Lucentino

May 12th, 2009, 04:16 AM

OK!

Locomotive Book: Linkage project stage.

Carriage Book: Mindanao railway stsge.

Paco Booklet: Bicol line reopening stage.

Seriously though, it all comes down to the help we get from both societies (RIHSPI and Philippine Railways SIG).
The locomotive one can virtually be done with existing information, with some additions.

The carriage one will be hard and never complete. The best we could hope for is some publication with lots of carriage info and photos and hope readers will wish to contribute more.

The location booklets are small booklets with info on specific locations. Besides Paco, we have had no offers to do other locations from anyone.

Let's try to chip-in whatever we have... :)

Was able to download a GE Loco Operation Manual from the net... will post details when I have time... got to go! :runaway:

shranethomas

May 12th, 2009, 04:20 AM

Good Day to all,

I,m back. Wow thread 13 na pala. Wala na ako updates sa mga nangyari. Nandito na ako sa Alabang ngayon kaya masubaybayan ko ang happnenings dito. Kahapon pumunta kami Divisoria and gusto magtrain ng sis in law ko kaya sumakay kami. Dami improvements especially sa stretch between blumentrit to espana yung dati na lubak lubak na inasahan ko nawala na... smooth ang ride sa part na yon. Busy ang tampering machine between bicutan and fti... I think. Sa Tutuban nag preprepare na sila ng mga ties para sa mga sidings ng station. Binilang ko umabot ng apat ang dagdag. Sa lobby nakita ko ang display ng risphi picutres and sa project na buda car. Buda car is still not on display pero malapit na. Ganda ng mga pictures sir Jaime, yung mga taong dumadating galing sa tren tinitingnan talaga yung mga pictures. Kung mairestore ang steam magandang idisplay at paaindarin sa gitna ng CM Recto yan...hehhe:lol: Pero ang mga steam locomotives kailangan ng money para mabuo uli kaya please help the cause of Risphi. TY.

alcogoodwin

May 12th, 2009, 04:30 AM

Am I looking at my car's lost plate?! :nuts:

Thanks mate, just can't make out the details of that 5006 plate... :) How are you able to acquire those?
:

hehehehehe no, these were off scrapped buses :-)

As for acquiring. Hmmmmm, corruption isn't ALWAYS a bad thing I suppose.

5006 708kW U6B 4754.6 1992 GE Canada

alcogoodwin

May 12th, 2009, 04:31 AM

Let's try to chip-in whatever we have... :)

Was able to download a GE Loco Operation Manual from the net... will post details when I have time... got to go! :runaway:

Any help from anyone there would be greatly appreciated.
You will of course recieve credit for your work in the book and it will help the RIHSPI greatly.

Brad

alcogoodwin

May 12th, 2009, 04:35 AM

Priceless collection there! (talkin' 'bout the last pic) :cheers1:

Not in view is the 15yo stuff in the blue labled bottle.
Next trip I have to get the small bottle of ESQ and some Tanduay white to add to the collection.

Also not in view is the collection of Tanduay banners and posters on the other wall, something I am trying to always add to.

Can't help it, I love collecting Philippine stuff - much to the asawas disgust. She should be happy, at least I don't have a large collection of Pinays :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

alcogoodwin

May 12th, 2009, 04:37 AM

daily commuter

May 12th, 2009, 04:46 AM

daily commuter

May 12th, 2009, 04:50 AM

Buendia Station 12-May-09

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_920175072l.jpg
Entrance

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_473308382l.jpg

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_676274783l.jpg
Ticket Booth

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_975676799l.jpg
Train Schedule (but only 401, 402, 404 and 407 are operational)

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_413758048l.jpg
To the platform

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_931294648l.jpg
The other platform

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_569511124l.jpg
Bye-bye 402. See you later pag 407 ka na:lol:

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_623165354l.jpg
binutas ng plasser ang lupa

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_482016827l.jpg

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_530378896l.jpg
The railroad (north: point-of-view of all photos)

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_997320539l.jpg

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_628213928l.jpg
Bike on tracks:lol: (transformer po ang bike ko:nuts:)

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_507213715l.jpg
The railroad crossing

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_211520893l.jpg
Maka-alis na nga. Bawal daw tumambay eh:lol:

daily commuter

May 12th, 2009, 05:02 AM

Can't help it, I love collecting Philippine stuff - much to the asawas disgust. She should be happy, at least I don't have a large collection of Pinays :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

Sind24

May 12th, 2009, 05:33 AM

Bikol Express (http://www.voxbikol.com/story/669/bikol-express)
09.05.2009

It is welcome news indeed that the operations of the Philippine National Railway or PNR are set to re-commence by the middle of next year. The reopening of PNR's Manila-Bikol line may yet provide an economical and efficient transportation alternative for travelers who remain at the mercy of bus operators. For the latter appear oblivious to several oil price rollbacks and maintain fare prices set when oil prices reached an all-time high.

Nicolas Beda Priela, the Private Sector Consultant to the PNR, informed Regional Development Council (RDC) members that the completion of PNR's rehabilitation work for Bikol is scheduled by the end of this year. He identified the numerous tasks of this rehabilitation project which include not only repairing of tracks and train stations, but also the much needed refurbishing of locomotive engines, freight cars, and passenger coaches. By May 2010, the trains which were known as "the Bikol Express" (nowadays though, the name had been popularly affixed to a native, spicy dish) return to serve the public after a hiatus.

With its return, commuters may expect better coaches and shorter travel time as compared to the Bikol Express of old. Among the targets of the rehabilitation project is enabling the train to speed up to 120 kph on some track sections, hereby transporting passengers faster but in safety. Another is improving safety in its operations by installing protection devices in road-rail level crossings and by the upgrade of signaling and communication equipment and facilities Moreover, with fares expected to be usually lower than those of buses, the new Bikol Express is seen to be a more economical means of transport between the region and Manila.

Hence, it is hoped that with Bikol Express' return, the law of competition within the market would benefit commuters by driving bus fares down and by offering the former a suitable alternative in travelling. The train would give the buses a run for their money. Literally.

pi_malejana

May 12th, 2009, 05:41 AM

^^ kala ko ba this year na magsisimula...:(

happosai

May 12th, 2009, 05:59 AM

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_975676799l.jpg
Train Schedule (but only 401, 402, 404 and 407 are operational)

^^Walang byahe papuntang Tutuban ng 6:30pm? Kailan daw ibabalik?

happosai

May 12th, 2009, 06:33 AM

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/Image055.jpg

^^ Introducing the revolutionized concrete bed. Its strength its amazing. It can even withstand a speeding locomotive. If you call now you'll receive the Revolutionized concrete bed plus rail tracks for FREE!!! :nuts::lol::lol::nuts:

daily commuter

May 12th, 2009, 07:43 AM

ayhan456

May 12th, 2009, 07:45 AM

ayhan456

May 12th, 2009, 07:50 AM

Sa tuwing daraan ako rito sa Blumentriit para bumili ng ulam namin ay di ko talaga maiwasang magtanong sa sarili ko na magpasanghanggang sa ngayon ay ang dami pa ring mga tao sa riles kaya may aksyon ba talagang gagawin ang PNR hinggil rito sabi nila ay may mga tauhan sila para i disperse ito pero mukhang wala naman nangyayari dahil ang dami pa rin natutulog sa riles. May suggestion nga ang Ma'm ko bakit di raw manghingi ng police power ang PNR Management para may kapangyarihan na silang gumamit ng dahas para alisin ang mga pasaway ng mga taong yan.

d2 sa amin sa sta.mesa my mga PNR Police na dumadaan para i-check kung my mga pasaway na bumabalik at nag tatayo ng mga kubo,kaya nga lang hinde na pangunguha ang ginagawa nila.pag nanakaw na sa madaling salita puwersahan.hinde ba umaabot ang mga PNR Police jan para pa alisin cla?^^

Arciga_01

May 12th, 2009, 08:13 AM

angelneo

May 12th, 2009, 08:39 AM

news muna po tayo

SC allows lower court to hear Northrail case
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abs-cbnNEWS.com | 05/12/2009 1:26 PM

The Supreme Court has denied a bid by the Chinese contractor in the controversial Northrail project to stop the Makati City Regional Trial Court from hearing a case filed by a group of lawyers and civil society organizations questioning the multi-billon dollar railroad project.

“Acting on the prayer for the issuance of temporary restraining order and/or writ of preliminary injunction, the Court Resolved to DENY the prayer for lack of merit,” the High Court said in a one-page en banc resolution dated March 24, 2009 and made public Monday.

Judge Cesar D. Sta. Maria, former presiding judge of the Makati City Regional Trial Court’s Branch 145, earlier denied a motion by China National Machinery and Equipment Corporation Group, its Philippine partner Northrail and the Office of the Solicitor General to dismiss a petition brought against the allegedly graft-ridden deal by lawyers Harry. L. Roque Jr., Joel R. Butuyan, Roger R. Rayel, Romel R. Bagares and Christopher Francisco C. Bolastig and joined by urban poor groups affected by the project.

CNMEC later filed a petition before the Court of Appeals asking for a reversal of the lower court ruling.

When the Court of Appeals threw out the petition, CNMEC filed an appeal with the Supreme Court. In its appeal, the Chinese firm asked the High Court to issue a temporary restraining order against the trial court while its appeal is being heard. The Supreme Court’s Third Division initially heard the case but it subsequently turned the case over to the High Court en banc.

The Office of the Solicitor General brought a separate certiorari petition with the Court of Appeals, now pending with the Seventh Division of the appellate court. Roque’s group has asked the appellate court to put on hold any hearing on the petition in deference to the High Court.

“We’re ready for an oral argument before the Supreme Court on this case,” said Roque, who chairs the Center for International Law, an NGO dedicated to the promotion of the Rule of Law in the Philippines and Asia through the observation of international legal norms.

The citizens’ suit, docketed as Civil Case No. 06-203, sought to void the contract between the Philippine government-owned Northrail and CNMEC to build a US$ 509-million railroad from Caloocan City to Malolos and a loan agreement executed between the Philippine government and China EximBank to fund the project.

In their suit, the lawyers argued that various legal and constitutional defects hound the two deals, including, among other things, (1) that it did not comply with the twin constitutional requirements that the loan should first get a nod from the Monetary Board and that it pass through the Senate’s concurrence; and (2) that it did not go through a public bidding as required by law.

Northrail and its Chinese counterpart CNMEC asked the court to dismiss the case, anchoring their principal argument on the claim that the court has no jurisdiction over the case because what is being sued is an agent of China, a sovereign state.

A May 15, 2007 omnibus order issued by the judge had denied the motions to dismiss filed by Northrail, CNMEC and the government, represented by the Office of the Solicitor General.

In his omnibus order, the judge ruled that the plaintiffs have capacity to sue because they are taxpayers who may question a government action involving the expenditure of public funds. He also said the plaintiffs were able to show in their pleadings that the contract violated the constitution and other laws that the case is of such urgency because aside from public expenditure, many informal settlers stood affected by the project.

Judge Sta. Maria also brushed aside the contentions of the defendants that CNMEC acted as an agent of the sovereign state of China, saying the deals involve private or commercial transactions and are not treaties or executive agreements between two sovereign states.

He also downplayed fears by the defendants that he has already prejudged the case by calling for summary hearings because such hearings are only meant to determine whether or not the proper court should issue a preliminary injunction against the project while the case is being heard in court. Judge Sta. Maria retired from the Bench in early April this year.

Judge Sta. Maria also denied the motions for reconsideration the defendants subsequently filed in a one page-order dated March 10, 2008. On March 17, 2006, the Makati RTC granted the plaintiffs’ motion to hold preliminary summary hearings on the case. Judge Sta. Maria retired from the Bench in early April this year.

as of 05/12/2009 1:26 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/05/12/09/sc-allows-lower-court-hear-northrail-case

sushi___

May 12th, 2009, 09:12 AM

http://cdn.wn.com/o25/ph//2009/04/20/488aa2802933b41f22122baecfc90317-grande.jpg

where this?

pi_malejana

May 12th, 2009, 09:21 AM

^^ pandacan bridge??:dunno:

Sind24

May 12th, 2009, 10:05 AM

waaa...kala ko ba by september mag sisimula na ang operation ng Bicol Trains,bkit prang na delay ung operation?:ohno::cry:

Yung sa september na sinasabi ay yung sa tagkawayan, quezon - iriga, cam sur ata

absinthe_888

May 12th, 2009, 11:46 AM

Question: yung bang mga coaches na gagamitin sa Bicol Express at Peñafrancia Express if ever, aayusin din ba yung mga restrooms nila o derecho padin sa riles ang wiwi at pupu?

Cheever

May 12th, 2009, 11:56 AM

Peñafrancia Express? Ano po yun?... :)

Sky Harbor

May 12th, 2009, 12:26 PM

^^ The Peñafrancia Express (577) is the successor of the Prestige, otherwise known as the express train from Manila to Legazpi. The regular train to Legazpi is the Mayon Limited (587), while the economy train is the Bicol Express (no longer in operation).

Cheever

May 12th, 2009, 12:34 PM

Sky Harbor

May 12th, 2009, 12:37 PM

^^ That's right. Sayang lang na wala man lang mention ito sa website ng PNR. :(

Cheever

May 12th, 2009, 12:41 PM

Focus lang muna kasi sila sa Commuter Train. Hehehe. Busy-busyhan...

alcogoodwin

May 12th, 2009, 12:52 PM

^^ pandacan bridge??:dunno:

Yes.
Went there myself in 2007.
It is a great morning shot for trains, either after the sun gets up a little to stop shadow on side of train, or on overcast days at any time.

Brad

wheel of steel

May 12th, 2009, 02:06 PM

waaa...kala ko ba by september mag sisimula na ang operation ng Bicol Trains,bkit prang na delay ung operation?:ohno::cry:

I really don't trust that information as Bicol Trains can only travel with 120kph by the time they finished implementing Southrail or they have replaced the rails and ties suitable for heavy railways.

wheel of steel

May 12th, 2009, 02:07 PM

I really don't trust that information as Bicol Trains can only travel with 120kph by the time they finished implementing Southrail or they have replaced the rails and ties suitable for heavy railways. Our current rails and ties can only allow trains for max operation of 70-80kph. Although at some portion, 90kph.

barrera_marquez

May 12th, 2009, 02:30 PM

Northrail Malolos City, Bulacan Updates as of May 12, 2009:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9560/1004107.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1004107.jpg)
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/3848/1004135t.th.jpg (http://img2.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1004135t.jpg)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4723/1004108.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1004108.jpg)
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9869/1004134.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1004134.jpg)
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jafiti

May 12th, 2009, 02:50 PM

jafiti

May 12th, 2009, 02:57 PM

Just in case Jafiti feels I may be discriminating against other quality Filipino beverages. :lol:

One this I don't believe Tanduay has ever had is its own railway.

One locomotive: An O&K built 0-4-0T of 1910.

He may be able to tell us when they stopped using it, or of any photos exist.

Brad

Is this a very narrow gauge locomotive used for the building of MRR lines? I have two pictures of O & K in action in Laguimanoc (now Padre Burgos)

Cheever

May 12th, 2009, 02:58 PM

Northrail Malolos City, Bulacan Updates as of May 12, 2009:

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Mas pinalaking version lang po ng mga picture ni Sir barrera_marquez... :)

happosai

May 12th, 2009, 03:10 PM

^^Bat parang ang bagal ang progress ng Northrail? Wala pa bang nakatayong mga pylons at beams? O talagang matulin lang talaga ang LRT1 North Extension?

wheel of steel

May 12th, 2009, 03:12 PM

Wow!:banana: Kitang kita ko na lumilitaw na yung pile foundation sa Malolos Station. Tama, mas madali ang ganitong style ng paggawa. Dati na kaming ng try ng ganito. We have tried this style and it was proven good and fast. Sa umpisa mukhang mabagal at pagnkatapos nalahat ng pile footing, iaaply na simultaenous column erection. Di kasi pwede yung style ng MRT dito. Malambot ang lupa kasi dito sa Malolos at Bulacan..

Thank you so much Marco...Thank you... Bebe.... :cheers:

wheel of steel

May 12th, 2009, 03:16 PM

^^Bat parang ang bagal ang progress ng Northrail? Wala pa bang nakatayong mga pylons at beams? O talagang matulin lang talaga ang LRT1 North Extension?

Im very confident happssss, they will reach the target. I know there technique and very much similar to KTM double tracking between Ipoh and Padang... Di pwedeyung LRT1 North Style ng pagconstruct. Mas mabigat ang loading ng Northrail and they must able to stabilize the soil ASAP.

wheel of steel

May 12th, 2009, 03:17 PM

The embankment is already on the making. They are starting to fill the embankment in this picture.

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happosai

May 12th, 2009, 03:17 PM

Ibig sabihin malalapad ang foundations ng mga pylons? Parang yung style ng LRT1?

wheel of steel

May 12th, 2009, 03:22 PM

Ibig sabihin malalapad ang foundations ng mga pylons? Parang yung style ng LRT1?

They were separated with each other. Yung diameter ng pile is almost 1 meter and every column 6 piles are ereceted. In LRT1, they simply create a big whole of 2.5 m in diameter and simply sunk the rebars then puor concrete. In the case of Northrail viaduct, they'll have to bore those 6 piles and create a huge footing emcompassing these 6 piles. Columns will be erected above this huge footing.

happosai

May 12th, 2009, 03:24 PM

Im very confident happssss, they will reach the target. I know there technique and very much similar to KTM double tracking between Ipoh and Padang... Di pwedeyung LRT1 North Style ng pagconstruct. Mas mabigat ang loading ng Northrail and they must able to stabilize the soil ASAP.

Kung mabibigat ang dadaan dyan, eh di sing laki pala ng skyway pylons ang gagamitin dyan?

Sabagay sa pag construct ng mga building, tumatagal sa foundations. Pero pag nagawa na yung foundation matulin na ang pag erect ng mga floors. Same concept lang din siguro dyan sa northrail.

wheel of steel

May 12th, 2009, 03:25 PM

A ramp is expected in this portion of northrail.

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happosai

May 12th, 2009, 03:28 PM

happosai

May 12th, 2009, 03:30 PM

BTW, hanggang saan ba aabot ang Northrail? Aabot ba yan ng Ilocos norte?

wheel of steel

May 12th, 2009, 03:39 PM

Kung mabibigat ang dadaan dyan, eh di sing laki pala ng skyway pylons ang gagamitin dyan?

Sabagay sa pag construct ng mga building, tumatagal sa foundations. Pero pag nagawa na yung foundation matulin na ang pag erect ng mga floors. Same concept lang din siguro dyan sa northrail.

Parans same ang concept pero mas mabigat ang load ng Northrail. Tonetonelada ang bigat ng isang locomotive pag dumaan sa riles. Thank GOD, hindi masyadong bahain ang Caloocan to Calamba kaya at grade lang. Even if it is at grade, ginagawan pa rin ng solusyon yan para tumigas ang ilalim ng riles. Meron tayong Jet Grouting kung saan iniinject ang cement na may halong tubig sa ilallim ng lupa para mag silibing foundation. Kasing tibay niya ang concre o adobe. Hindi muna kailang humukay. Ganyan ang nakikita kong gingawa ngayun ng Northrail. Once you design a viaduct, kailangan you have to specify kung ano yung topography ng lupa na dadaanan ng riles. Before they started construction, they made first series of soil test. Because in these soil test, they will deteremine which type concruction is suitable for that area.

wheel of steel

May 12th, 2009, 03:40 PM

BTW, hanggang saan ba aabot ang Northrail? Aabot ba yan ng Ilocos norte?

Aabot yan ng Ilocos Norte pero dito ang daan sa Appari. Mas feasible na ang linya ay ipadaan sa Cagayan kaysa sa Ilocos Sur.

wheel of steel

May 12th, 2009, 03:44 PM

Magaan lang kasi ang load ng LRT at MRT natin. When designing viaducts for railways you need to study the load expected on that viaduct. Theyre were very much concerned of the locomotives (the heaviest one expected to pass) and that is no other than Diesel Locomotives. Yung mga bago ngayon, average weight is 80 - 90 tons and LRVs are no match with this.

happosai

May 12th, 2009, 03:54 PM

Parans same ang concept pero mas mabigat ang load ng Northrail. Tonetonelada ang bigat ng isang locomotive pag dumaan sa riles. Thank GOD, hindi masyadong bahain ang Caloocan to Calamba kaya at grade lang. Even if it is at grade, ginagawan pa rin ng solusyon yan para tumigas ang ilalim ng riles. Meron tayong Jet Grouting kung saan iniinject ang cement na may halong tubig sa ilallim ng lupa para mag silibing foundation. Kasing tibay niya ang concre o adobe. Hindi muna kailang humukay. Ganyan ang nakikita kong gingawa ngayun ng Northrail. Once you design a viaduct, kailangan you have to specify kung ano yung topography ng lupa na dadaanan ng riles. Before they started construction, they made first series of soil test. Because in these soil test, they will deteremine which type concruction is suitable for that area.

I've learned a lot.. :banana:

Aabot yan ng Ilocos Norte pero dito ang daan sa Appari. Mas feasible na ang linya ay ipadaan sa Cagayan kaysa sa Ilocos Sur.

Kung aabot yan ng Norte, matatapos kaya yan by MAy 2010? Di kaya kapusin sa oras yan?

Magaan lang kasi ang load ng LRT at MRT natin. When designing viaducts for railways you need to study the load expected on that viaduct. Theyre were very much concerned of the locomotives (the heaviest one expected to pass) and that is no other than Diesel Locomotives. Yung mga bago ngayon, average weight is 80 - 90 tons and LRVs are no match with this.

Diba mag extend yan up to Tutuban Terminal. Magiging 4 tracks itong riles malapit dito sa amin. At from Tutuban Terminal ba ma extend din ba ang northrail up to North Harbor? Sa Recto pa rin ba idadaan yan if ever na ituloy hanggang North Harbor?

firebar10

May 12th, 2009, 04:00 PM

Hi, ang bilis naman talaga ng thread na ito..by far ito yata ang pinaka busy sa Philippine Transportation. Anyway sorry kung wala ko ma contribute kasi nasa abroad ako ngyon eh, pero I enjoyed reading your updates lalo na yung narration ni daily commuter..hehehehe, ang dami ng intrested sa railway sa Pilipinas.

Eto pala out my memory lang, there is (or was) a short spur line of PNR in Tunasan, Muntinlupa. Its actually a line that goes inside Pacwood, I think its the one that made timber power post for Meralco before. the switch is right after the Tunasan river at the boundary of San Pedro and Muntinlupa if you are coming from the south heading north. Although I can't verify it, most probably there is another spur line for train coming from the north entering this factory.

happosai

May 12th, 2009, 04:15 PM

kalbongdad

May 12th, 2009, 05:30 PM

yung mga machines ginagamit ba yun.....baka naman nakatingga lang...pero mukhang meron mga tao...may ginagawa na talaga ha....

wheel of steel

May 12th, 2009, 05:32 PM

yung mga machines ginagamit ba yun.....baka naman nakatingga lang...pero mukhang meron mga tao...may ginagawa na talaga ha....

Nakatingga nga. Wala namang nagtratrabaho sa site. May suspension order na tigil ulit.

tisoycuba

May 12th, 2009, 06:05 PM

kailan matatapos ang terminal sa clark pala.

le Reine

May 12th, 2009, 09:04 PM

They were separated with each other. Yung diameter ng pile is almost 1 meter and every column 6 piles are ereceted. In LRT1, they simply create a big whole of 2.5 m in diameter and simply sunk the rebars then puor concrete. In the case of Northrail viaduct, they'll have to bore those 6 piles and create a huge footing emcompassing these 6 piles. Columns will be erected above this huge footing.I see. If I'm not mistaken, this was also done in the foundations of the Petronas towers because the soil there is also very soft. I think the same it also true for the Tibet railway to avoid permafrost. So that's how soft the soil is in Bulacan?

Nakatingga nga. Wala namang nagtratrabaho sa site. May suspension order na tigil ulit.The reason might be because of the resumption of the case against CNMEC in the Makati Regional Trial Court ordered by the SC. :(

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=36534216&postcount=253

pi_malejana

May 12th, 2009, 11:05 PM

^^ :(

ang sarap talagang ipasagasa sa tren si roque...!:bash::ohno:
imagine urban poor groups daw ang nagkwe-question sa contract?! :ohno:

Arciga_01

May 13th, 2009, 12:31 AM

Mga Epal talaga tong mga pulubi na to, Dapat sa kanila palayasin dahil dayo lang sila dito sa Metro Manila..

Also, did my eyes just decieved me or nung tumitingin ako sa isang Metro Manila map. I just saw a road named "Manila Railroad", The location of it is beside pasig river and C-5...Mukha syang part ng abandoned Pasig-Antipolo line..

barrera_marquez

May 13th, 2009, 12:44 AM

I see. If I'm not mistaken, this was also done in the foundations of the Petronas towers because the soil there is also very soft. I think the same it also true for the Tibet railway to avoid permafrost. So that's how soft the soil is in Bulacan?

The reason might be because of the resumption of the case against CNMEC in the Makati Regional Trial Court ordered by the SC. :(

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=36534216&postcount=253

Bulacan? Yung lupa namin? Medyo malambot nga kasi nang naghuhukay sila sa Barasoain Church medyo maputik at malapot ang lupa e.

jafiti

May 13th, 2009, 12:53 AM

jafiti

May 13th, 2009, 12:56 AM

Bulacan? Yung lupa namin? Medyo malambot nga kasi nang naghuhukay sila sa Barasoain Church medyo maputik at malapot ang lupa e.

Most of the areas along the ROW in Bulacan are alluvial deposits. When they constructed the original Manila-Dagupan line, they had difficulty constructing bridges because of this. Opening of the line was delayed too because of problems encountered in constructing Calumpit bridge. If they will not elevate Northrail, baka kailangan ng steam boat instead of trains.

jpdm

May 13th, 2009, 01:09 AM

^^ :(

ang sarap talagang ipasagasa sa tren si roque...!:bash::ohno:
imagine urban poor groups daw ang nagkwe-question sa contract?! :ohno:

Anyway, the Northrail proponents should not be affected by the case and should continue and finish their work. Eventually the success of PNR revival and Northrail operation (i am sure about its viability) will prove their detractors wrong.

jpdm

May 13th, 2009, 01:13 AM

Mga Epal talaga tong mga pulubi na to, Dapat sa kanila palayasin dahil dayo lang sila dito sa Metro Manila..

Ok lang dumayo problema naninira at sakit ng ulo ng metropolis ang taong tulad niyan....

Dapat damputin mga yan at paglinisin ng lahat ng estero sa Metro manila para may pakinabang sa kanila.

pi_malejana

May 13th, 2009, 01:22 AM

Anyway, the Northrail proponents should not be affected by the case and should continue and finish their work. Eventually the success of PNR revival and Northrail operation (i am sure about its viability) will prove their detractors wrong.

that's the problem... nahinto na naman ang project because of the hearings...:( na-delay na nga dati, meron na naman...:ohno:

alcogoodwin

May 13th, 2009, 01:49 AM

Is this a very narrow gauge locomotive used for the building of MRR lines? I have two pictures of O & K in action in Laguimanoc (now Padre Burgos)

It was of 2ft gauge.
I suppose it may have been used for building MRR, but it was supplied new to San Miguel to work for them.

There were however four other narrow gauge O&K narrow gaugelocos that went there.

All 0-4-0T
2 x 750mm
2 x 600mm (strange gauge, just under normal 2ft)
Two for LAGER MANILA
Two for A.MOLL & Co

Brad

wheel of steel

May 13th, 2009, 02:14 AM

China firm loses bid to stop Northrail case (http://www.bworldonline.com/BW051309/content.php?id=046)

THE SUPREME Court has junked a Chinese company’s bid to halt litigation over the legality of the $503-million Manila-Clark Rapid Railways or the Northrail project before the Makati Regional Trial Court.

In a resolution, the high court said the Chinese firm’s request for an injunction did not have merit.

In February, the China National Machinery & Equipment Corp. Group asked the high tribunal to halt proceedings at the Makati court.

The litigation could strain the relationship between China and the Philippines, it claimed.

The Makati Regional Trial Court has received evidence on the Northrail case on the back of a Court of Appeals ruling. The appellate court late last year ordered the proceedings to continue amid a clamor from nongovernment organizations for the contract be annulled as it did not go through public bidding.

The project, which will rehabilitate the old northern line of the moribund Philippine National Railways, will link Metro Manila to the Clark Economic Zone in Pampanga.

le Reine

May 13th, 2009, 02:23 AM

wheel of steel

May 13th, 2009, 02:25 AM

I am sure CNMEG will not construct Phase 2 anymore. They will just need to finished Phase I. China had to find another one for this. There were clamors to award this to Filipino Contractors.

pi_malejana

May 13th, 2009, 02:26 AM

^^ how long do you think will it take??:cry:

wheel of steel

May 13th, 2009, 02:26 AM

wheel of steel

May 13th, 2009, 02:28 AM

^^ how long do you think will it take??:cry:

Phase I will surely be completed next year. Ciguro, 60% lang ang kayang tapusin sa Phase II next year. Construction for Phase II will start as soon as the relocation is completed for Phase II.

le Reine

May 13th, 2009, 02:30 AM

I am sure CNMEG will not construct Phase 2 anymore. They will just need to finished Phase I. China had to find another one for this. There were clamors to award this to Filipino Contractors.I am sorry but I don't think there's any Filipino company competent enough to finish that project. China at least has some reputation to brag about when it comes to railways. Nationalism is good, but too much is stupid. Look at what nationalism did to Manila Hotel. Sometimes it pays to be practical.

Only the New Paco Station, just beside the Paco Road. The Old Station will be repaired for preservation.Someone said that it was demolished completely. I am nervous. That building is a heritage site, for goodness' sake.

And $1.3B for a 82km double track railway is not expensive! Heck, MRT3 costs almost $600M for just a 13km inefficient and stupid line! !@#^())*&%^% is the fu@%&*()%ng problem with these people?

omsky

May 13th, 2009, 02:31 AM

China firm loses bid to stop Northrail case (http://www.bworldonline.com/BW051309/content.php?id=046)

This is NO GOOD :ohno:

pi_malejana

May 13th, 2009, 02:32 AM

I am sorry but I don't think there's any Filipino company competent enough to finish that project. China at least has some reputation to brag about when it comes to railways. Nationalism is good, but too much is stupid. Look at what nationalism did to Manila Hotel. Sometimes it pays to be practical.

totally agree with this...:yes: ang gusto ko lang may tumulong na mga filipino contractors para mapabilis ang construction pero not complete turnover...:no:

Someone said that it was demolished completely. I am nervous. That building is a heritage site, for goodness' sake.

i though RIHSPI is working hard to preserve that area/building...??:dunno:
i hope Jafiti or sir brad would clarify this rumor...

:cheers:

EDIT

And $1.3B for a 82km double track railway is not expensive! Heck, MRT3 costs almost $600M for just a 13km inefficient and stupid line! !@#^())*&%^% is the fu@%&*()%ng problem with these people?

sabi ko nga kanina, kasama daw kasi nila ung mga urban poor groups...:mad::bash:

wheel of steel

May 13th, 2009, 02:37 AM

I am sorry but I don't think there's any Filipino company competent enough to finish that project. China at least has some reputation to brag about when it comes to railways. Nationalism is good, but too much is stupid. Look at what nationalism did to Manila Hotel. Sometimes it pays to be practical.

Someone said that it was demolished completely. I am nervous. That building is a heritage site, for goodness' sake.

And $1.3B for a 82km double track railway is not expensive! Heck, MRT3 costs almost $600M for just a 13km inefficient and stupid line! !@#^())*&%^% is the fu@%&*()%ng problem with these people?

China is superb and magnificient they invent their own technology. Im still positive China government will be able to find another one. Relocation is ongoing and is about to be completed this June.

Yeah, of all the things MRT3 Line is really a hellish and disguting ride of my life.. :ohno:

The reason to smile is still there as construction is still in full swing unless executive order takes effect... he he he....

The Paco Restoration is a reality already.

daily commuter

May 13th, 2009, 03:02 AM

POSTERS

Dear SSC Railways Forumers and Team RIHSPI,

I would like to propose that we put the following posters inside the 7A coaches:

1. AKO AY RESPONSABLENG PASAHERO NG TREN. ANG PAMASAHE AY BINABAYARAN NG TAMA AT HINDI DINARAYA.

2. TICKET FIRST BEFORE BOARDING

3. HUWAG IPATONG ANG PAA SA UPUAN

4. PNR TRAIN: PILIPINONG NAGMAMAHAL SA RILES AT TRAIN

5. ANG TREN AY SASAKYAN, HINDI BASURAHAN

6. NEW PNR AIRCON TRAINS SOON

Kahit 8.5 x 11 bond paper lang. Naiinis kasi talaga ako sa ibang pasahero na hindi marunong magmamahal sa tren:ohno:.

jpdm

May 13th, 2009, 03:11 AM

I am sorry but I don't think there's any Filipino company competent enough to finish that project. China at least has some reputation to brag about when it comes to railways.

Someone said that it was demolished completely. I am nervous. That building is a heritage site, for goodness' sake.

Agree.

jpdm

May 13th, 2009, 03:12 AM

alcogoodwin

May 13th, 2009, 03:27 AM

^^:(:cry:

Who was able to see Paco Station lately? IS it really true that the structure is now in ruins? I thought they're going to use that again as a railway station? Could anybody please confirm this?

It has seen better days thats for sure.
No I think they are going to have another station between it and the second.
Will this be the only Philippine station to have had three sites? I think a couple have had two, Tutuban especially.

As for the future of the station, I can't comment on that sadly for fear of spankies :lol: . Will let those in power do so.

Tally pip
Brad

alcogoodwin

May 13th, 2009, 03:31 AM

I am sure CNMEG will not construct Phase 2 anymore. They will just need to finished Phase I. China had to find another one for this. There were clamors to award this to Filipino Contractors.

I don't hold much hope for Phase 2 in the short, or even medium term.
New government, new ideas. Seems to be the way that they don't wish to finish ff projects that would give the previous administration credit.

Brad

alcogoodwin

May 13th, 2009, 03:33 AM

i though RIHSPI is working hard to preserve that area/building...??:dunno:
i hope Jafiti or sir brad would clarify this rumor...
:

A rumour is al it is my friend.
Unless they did it within the last two weeks. Which is VERY doubtful.

Brad

alcogoodwin

May 13th, 2009, 03:40 AM

POSTERS

Dear SSC Railways Forumers and Team RIHSPI,

I would like to propose that we put the following posters inside the 7A coaches:

1. AKO AY RESPONSABLENG PASAHERO NG TREN. ANG PAMASAHE AY BINABAYARAN NG TAMA AT HINDI DINARAYA.

2. TICKET FIRST BEFORE BOARDING

3. HUWAG IPATONG ANG PAA SA UPUAN

4. PNR TRAIN: PILIPINONG NAGMAMAHAL SA RILES AT TRAIN

5. ANG TREN AY SASAKYAN, HINDI BASURAHAN

6. NEW PNR AIRCON TRAINS SOON
.

No idea what most of it says, but I think I get the drift and yes, why not.
In a return deal, PNR may allow the society to also add ones about the society for promotional purposes.

Actually I have just had a very interesting business idea. BRB

Arciga_01

May 13th, 2009, 03:47 AM

Wait...What? Un old Paco station dinemolish???!

Mojacko

May 13th, 2009, 04:55 AM

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_211520893l.jpg
Maka-alis na nga. Bawal daw tumambay eh:lol:

Shouldn't they mean more specifically "Bawal tumambay dito - ang WALANG ticket"?

alcogoodwin

May 13th, 2009, 04:59 AM

Wait...What? Un old Paco station dinemolish???!

Hindi!!!!!!!!!!

happosai

May 13th, 2009, 05:01 AM

Shouldn't they mean more specifically "Bawal tumambay dito - ang WALANG ticket"?

Hindi rin papansinin yan. Parang "Bawal umihi" signage na lang yan. Kahit may ganung signage marami pa rin ang umiihi sa pader. Dapat sa mga stations ay may nakabantay na PNR police...

Cheever

May 13th, 2009, 06:07 AM

^^ Dati sumasakay kami ng PNR from San Lazaro station (blumentritt) to Sucat station pag pumupunta kami sa Cupang. At na alala ko dati na nagkaroon din ng Cupang station kaso di kasing laki ng Sucat station kasi mababa lang ang platform, at kailangan mo pa tumalon mula sa tren pag gusto mo bumaba. Meron pa bang Cupang station ngayon?

Haps... Yung tinutukoy mo po siguro ay yung Buli Station, malapit nga po yun dito sa amin sa Cupang, wala na po yung station na yun... :)

OT: Saan ka nga pala pumupunta dito sa Cupang?...

happosai

May 13th, 2009, 08:37 AM

Dreamtofly

May 13th, 2009, 08:39 AM

Angbilis naman ng thread na ito. parang Tren. walang traffic. paki summarized naman kung ano na update dito.

Cheever

May 13th, 2009, 08:45 AM

^^ OT:Sa lola ko sa Cupang. Tagal ko na rin di nakakapunta doon. Ibang iba na itsura ngayon ng Cupang kaysa noong huli ko napuntahan. Kaya di ko na alam kung panu pumunta sa bahay ng lola ko doon.. :lol:

Tama.. Buli station nga pala yon...

Buli Stop lang daw po yun ehh. Hindi daw talaga Buli Station yun... ^^

Parang alangan naman ang distance ng Buli Stop na yun ehh kasi masyado siyang malapit sa Sucat Station at masyado namang malayo sa Alabang Station...

happosai

May 13th, 2009, 09:19 AM

^^Hindi talaga sya station. Kasi wala syang platform. Kasi pag sa sucat kami bumababa sumasakay pa kami trisikel papunta sa bahay ng lola ko. Pag dyan kasi walking distance na lang.

Mithril Cloud

May 13th, 2009, 09:20 AM

The Old Paco station still has a long way to go before it sees restoration.

alcogoodwin

May 13th, 2009, 09:26 AM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2125/3527965566_f6abe1f96b_o.jpg

alcogoodwin

May 13th, 2009, 09:54 AM

Just a couple of things in the archive for the book.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3640/3527983844_6171dcc29a_o.jpg

riles28

May 13th, 2009, 10:13 AM

riles28

May 13th, 2009, 10:18 AM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2125/3527965566_f6abe1f96b_o.jpg

Very Memorable rin ang ICTSI Freight train service natatandaan ko ay high school ako ng magsimula silang mag service from North harbor to Cabuyao
lagi kung nakikita ang tren na ito sa may ilalim ng Tutuban mall approaching to Recto or papasok nasa PNR Yard sa Tayuman. Kailan kaya magkakaroon ng freight service ulit sa PNR line.

pi_malejana

May 13th, 2009, 10:25 AM

Update May 12, 2009 ( Blumentriit - Triangulo Abad Santos Segment)

Sinuyod ko ang kahabaan ng riles mula sa Tomas Mapua sa may Blumentriit hanggang Abad Santos Triangulo section una ay sa Tomas Mapua Crossing ginagawa na nila ngayon ang bagong quarter ng crossing keeper at doon naman sa Abad Santos ay sinimulan na nila bungkalin ang embankment para sa paglalatag ng bagong riles mula sa abad santos patungong Solis at Tayuman nakakatuwa sigurong tingnan kapag maayos na ang triangulo dahil dito ang palitan ng linya patungong tayuman o caloocan, Yun nga lang magpasahanggang ngayon ay marami pa rin natutulog sa riles at yung estero na nasa gilid ng riles ay sinimulan ng linisin ng MMDA siguro isa ito sa contribution ng MMDA upang maiwasan ring bahain ang riles.

wow, amazing report... could have been better if there were photos...:D

it's nice to hear MMDA is "contributing" something... madali namang tanggalin ang mga squatter na yan since di naman na sila nagtatayo ng mga bahay... pagka dumalas na uli ang frequency ng mga trips, mahihirapan na silang mag stay jan sa riles..:lol:

:cheers:

daily commuter

May 13th, 2009, 10:45 AM

chris_nigel

May 13th, 2009, 12:26 PM

pics naman on restoration of paco station

happosai

May 13th, 2009, 01:04 PM

Update May 12, 2009 ( Blumentriit - Triangulo Abad Santos Segment)
Yun nga lang magpasahanggang ngayon ay marami pa rin natutulog sa riles at yung estero na nasa gilid ng riles ay sinimulan ng linisin ng MMDA siguro isa ito sa contribution ng MMDA upang maiwasan ring bahain ang riles.

Di yata MMDA yung nag lilinis ng estero sa may Blumentritt. Walang logo ng MMDA yung mga heavy equipments na nag ooperate doon sa area. Parang mga contractor ng PNR yon. Kasi yon din ang nakita kong nag aalis ng mga lumang rails ng PNR dati.

Arciga_01

May 13th, 2009, 01:06 PM

Oo nga, natakot kasi ako nung may nagsabi na dinemolish un paco station! We need proof na nakatayo parin sya! :D

ayhan456

May 13th, 2009, 01:10 PM

:shocked:anu,my kaso ang PNR at ang China dahil sa pondo na nag kakahalaga ng $503-million na hinde dumaan sa public bidding...tama ba ako ?

ayhan456

May 13th, 2009, 01:13 PM

:shocked:anu,tigil nanaman ang project ng NORTH RAIL dahil sa hinde dumaan ang pera na nagkakahalaga ng $503-M sa public bidding.tama ba ako ?:ohno:

jafiti

May 13th, 2009, 01:17 PM

from port area to cabuyao, doon ba sa depot sa cabuyao naghihintay ang mga trailer truck para ma-transfer ang mga container na sakay ng freight train?

also, yun riles na tumatawid ng SLEX via viaduct/overpass sa may cabuyao ay sa ICTSI din ba? ito ba ang riles na papunta ng canlubang sugarland?

Nasa Calamba ito. Katabi ng San Cristobal Bridge at ang triangulo papuntang Canlubang. Nasa kaliwa ito ng SLEX kung galing ka sa Maynila.

ayhan456

May 13th, 2009, 01:18 PM

Yung sa september na sinasabi ay yung sa tagkawayan, quezon - iriga, cam sur ata

ibig sabihin,hanggang quezon lang ang biyahe ng Blue Whale?panu naman kaming mga taga Bicol?pede pa bang sumakay ng train sa quezon hanggang Bicol ?or talagang doon nlang talaga?

alcogoodwin

May 13th, 2009, 01:21 PM

Nasa Calamba ito. Katabi ng San Cristobal Bridge at ang triangulo papuntang Canlubang. Nasa kaliwa ito ng SLEX kung galing ka sa Maynila.

I am guessing on all this tagalog, however today I found a track diagram of the terminal which I assume must be close to what it used to be.
Amazing to read all that publicity, they had such big plans, but now nothing.

Brad

wheel of steel

May 13th, 2009, 01:47 PM

from port area to cabuyao, doon ba sa depot sa cabuyao naghihintay ang mga trailer truck para ma-transfer ang mga container na sakay ng freight train?

also, yun riles na tumatawid ng SLEX via viaduct/overpass sa may cabuyao ay sa ICTSI din ba? ito ba ang riles na papunta ng canlubang sugarland?

Pagnatapos yung Northrail at batangas line, diretso na sila sa Clark at Subic from Manila Port at Batangas Port. Very seamless diba?

wheel of steel

May 13th, 2009, 01:48 PM

I am guessing on all this tagalog, however today I found a track diagram of the terminal which I assume must be close to what it used to be.
Amazing to read all that publicity, they had such big plans, but now nothing.

Brad

Very much closer to San Cristobal Bridge at just about to reach the railroad triangle going to Canlubang.

alcogoodwin

May 13th, 2009, 02:08 PM

Howdee,
As of today the RIHSPI-ANZ Chapter has got PayPal facilities.

Membership is available to anyone outside the Philippines who cares enough to help support the preservation of Philippine railway history.

More info can be found HERE! (http://philippinerailwayhistoricalsociety.blogspot.com/)

While the RIHSPI-ANZ (http://anz.rihspi.org) website should be updated to reflect this tomorrow.

Allllllllll Aboard! :)

Best wishes
Brad

Mithril Cloud

May 13th, 2009, 02:18 PM

pics naman on restoration of paco station

Unfortunately, it's not yet happening.

barrera_marquez

May 13th, 2009, 02:40 PM

Nakatingga nga. Wala namang nagtratrabaho sa site. May suspension order na tigil ulit.

Hindi ko pala nasabi... gumagalaw ang mga makina nang kinuhanan ko ng litrato ang mga iyan sa Malolos City, Bulacan.

wheel of steel

May 13th, 2009, 02:47 PM

Hindi ko pala nasabi... gumagalaw ang mga makina nang kinuhanan ko ng litrato ang mga iyan sa Malolos City, Bulacan.

:banana: Yeeeeehhhhhhhheeeeeeeyyyyyyyy!!! :banana:

wheel of steel

May 13th, 2009, 03:20 PM

Ang ganda....

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/PNR_Tutuban3_MC.jpg

Sky Harbor

May 13th, 2009, 04:19 PM

Mithril Cloud

May 13th, 2009, 05:36 PM

Better yet, turn it into fully Filipino.

Sky Harbor

May 13th, 2009, 05:49 PM

Mithril Cloud

May 13th, 2009, 05:52 PM

But is that translation even recognized by the PNR? If not, that would be overdoing it.

Anyway, to complete the set: 2. TIKET MUNA BAGO SUMAKAY

Sky Harbor

May 13th, 2009, 05:54 PM

^^ It's in a list of translations of state-owned companies and government agencies I found in a dictionary. The list was issued by the Surian ng Wikang Pambansa, the current Komisyon sa Wikang Filipino, back in the 1960s, when Filipino (then Pilipino) was still unfettered by the scourge of Taglish.

Anyway, if you want to be really purist, number 2 would be "BOLETO MUNA BAGO SUMAKAY".

Mithril Cloud

May 13th, 2009, 06:00 PM

I'm not sure if many would be able to understand that. :lol:

Anyway, the point is making it understandable to the general masses, not to purely translate.

Sky Harbor

May 13th, 2009, 06:02 PM

^^ Well, not a lot of people know that the Filipino word for "card" can either be the English "kard" or the Spanish "tarheta". By extension, "credit card" can either be "kredit kard" or "tarheta de kredito" (at one time, I translated it as "tarhetang utang"), with the latter sounding better than the former. As much as Filipino is an evolving language, it is a horrible sight to see its written form be littered with English words where there are appropriate Filipino/Tagalog translations.

But moving on from signage, hopefully the new DMUs will have electronic signs! :D

Wind Shear

May 13th, 2009, 07:00 PM

Sky Harbor

May 13th, 2009, 07:22 PM

^^ Not in Tagalog/Filipino. Y sí, yo conozco la ortografía de "tarjeta" en español. :D

shyaman

May 13th, 2009, 11:10 PM

Ang ganda....

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/PNR_Tutuban3_MC.jpg

Looks orderly and clean... at the moment :D

Where or what is that?

Mithril Cloud

May 13th, 2009, 11:33 PM

PNR Tutuban Terminal in Manila.

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 02:09 AM

Looks orderly and clean... at the moment :D

Where or what is that?

Welcome back Shyaman.......

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 02:10 AM

As much as Filipino is an evolving language, it is a horrible sight to see its written form be littered with English words where there are appropriate Filipino/Tagalog translations.

Perhaps so, but it helps to half understand posts :lol:

daily commuter

May 14th, 2009, 02:11 AM

Nasa Calamba ito. Katabi ng San Cristobal Bridge at ang triangulo papuntang Canlubang. Nasa kaliwa ito ng SLEX kung galing ka sa Maynila.

ah ok sir. so ito yun dating riles na nasa sa old national highway before the bridge sa may mayapa-checkpoint kapag galing ka sa mamatid cabuyao area. tama po ba ako sir?

daily commuter

May 14th, 2009, 02:19 AM

Sirs Sky Harbor, Wind Shear and Mithril Cloud, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Dami ko natutunan. For sure, magiging maganda ang mga posters natin sa tren at estacion :)

Sir Riles28, comments ka naman din sa mga posters since sa ______ ka affilated :)

daily commuter

May 14th, 2009, 02:37 AM

Mithril Cloud

May 14th, 2009, 02:56 AM

daily commuter

May 14th, 2009, 02:59 AM

I think you meant wooden ties. :D

noted sir. thanks

happosai

May 14th, 2009, 03:35 AM

^^ Sign number 6: PARATING NA ANG BAGONG TREN NG PNR NA MAY AIR-CON. Actually, PNR is translated into Filipino as Pambansang Daangbakal ng Pilipinas. The appropriate acronym would be PDaP, since PDP is already used by the Partido Demokratiko Pilipino-Lakas ng Bayan (PDP-LABAN, Aquilino Pimentel's party). That would mean that the sign, if fully Filipinized, would read as follows: PARATING NA ANG BAGONG TREN NG PDaP NA MAY AIR-CON.

^^Anu sa tagalog ng air-con? :lol:

Ang ganda....

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/PNR_Tutuban3_MC.jpg

Bakit nung nagpunta ako dyan parang ang dumi dumi? Di nga ako na impress. Mas gusto ko pa mga stations ng LRT2.

Inaayos na din ang crossing dito sa Malugay Street, Makati (near Buendia Station). Ang tibay pala ng wooden ties na ginagamit sa riles. Yun tinanggal dun buong-buo pa din.
----

Matitibay talaga yang mga wooden ties. Magandang gawing furniture yan.. :lol:

Mithril Cloud

May 14th, 2009, 03:39 AM

Looks can deceive. ;)

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:05 AM

ah ok sir. so ito yun dating riles na nasa sa old national highway before the bridge sa may mayapa-checkpoint kapag galing ka sa mamatid cabuyao area. tama po ba ako sir?

This is the area where the ICTSC is. The lines with yellow are the tracks being used for container cargo system. The red line is for the Canlubang Railways system and the blue line is the Mainline South.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2185/3530120912_83c519d27c_o.jpg

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:08 AM

happosai

May 14th, 2009, 04:12 AM

^^Kung gagawin mo dito yan. Pag balik mo wala na bike mo.. :lol:

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:12 AM

Guys, yung mga tropa ko na ticket sellers (commission agents) ay may DOTC-PNR ID na din. Siguro naman kahit kaunting benepisyo mula sa Pambansang Daangbakal ng Pilipinas ay mabiyayaan sila.
----

Inaayos na din ang crossing dito sa Malugay Street, Makati (near Buendia Station). Ang tibay pala ng wooden ties na ginagamit sa riles. Yun tinanggal dun buong-buo pa din.
----

They will replace it with concrete blocks. Crossings normally has the same construction with ties and ballast in order to be tampered and straighten. Of all the portions in the tracks, crossings must be secured enough to allow smooth pass. Once tampered, the precast concrete blocks will be installed to flatten the surface of the tracks and also for the vehicles to pass smoothly.

The current ones that were using is only asphalt covered which cannot be tampered. Its a quick fix but it will soon be replaced with concrete blocks like the one in Espanya.

[dx]

May 14th, 2009, 04:16 AM

Old Legaspi PNR Station

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5561/img1300y.jpg
by Yves Yu

I hope they just renovate this one instead of demolishing and building something new.

I made a 3D model of it on Sketchup hehe

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9250/pnr2.jpg http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6807/pnr9.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3404/pnr6.jpg http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8238/pnr4.jpg

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:16 AM

^^Kung gagawin mo dito yan. Pag balik mo wala na bike mo.. :lol:

We'll ciguro baka hindi na mangyari yan. Definitely PNR will privatized parking system.

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:17 AM

;36633598']Old Legaspi PNR Station

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5561/img1300y.jpg
by Yves Yu

I hope they just renovate this one instead of demolishing and building something new.

I wonder what kind of fate will this old and great station waits upon the reservation made by the NHA for PNR depot in Alobo.

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 04:19 AM

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:24 AM

Hmmmm I just discovered the Google translater.
It does better on Japanese than Tagalog, but it will prove useful here.

Translated in reverse.

Hmmmm ko lamang natuklasan ng Google translator. Ito ay mas mahusay kaysa sa Japanese Tagalog, ngunit ito ay patunayan ang kapaki-pakinabang dito.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Wow, ang galing mo nang mag Tagalog ha, Uncle Brad! Congratulations, welcome to the party....

The problem is much of the Tagalog words now is hard to understand because most of the Filipinos today abbreviate words for the sake of TEXTING. he he he h....:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

daily commuter

May 14th, 2009, 04:24 AM

^^Kung gagawin mo dito yan. Pag balik mo wala na bike mo.. :lol:

Sa Binan station may area kung saan pwede iparada ang mga motor. Parang garahe siya tabi ng ticket office pero mga empleyado ang madalas ko makita na naglalabas ng motorsiklo at bisekleta dun.

OT: Yun bike ko naman ayos na din na natitiklop kasi ginagamit ko din yun sa mga OB ko within Makati CBD

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 04:24 AM

This is the area where the ICTSC is. The lines with yellow are the tracks being used for container cargo system. The red line is for the Canlubang Railways system and the blue line is the Mainline South.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2185/3530120912_83c519d27c_o.jpg

OK that is close to the track layout ICTSI gavce me, except they show three sidings next to the PNR mainline instead of two and crossovers at the end of these for locos to run around.

Brad

Mithril Cloud

May 14th, 2009, 04:25 AM

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:26 AM

OK that is close to the track layout ICTSI gavce me, except they show three sidings next to the PNR mainline instead of two and crossovers at the end of these for locos to run around.

Brad

Wew!!! It's hard to zoom it here. We'll thats good, can you redraw it Uncle Brad. Lets see if they can still revived this or just look into other Places like linking Batangas Port directly to Manila Port.

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 04:26 AM

Wow, ang galing mo nang mag Tagalog ha, Uncle Brad! Congratulations, welcome to the party....

The problem is much of the Tagalog words now is hard to understand because most of the Filipinos today abbreviate words for the sake of TEXTING. he he he h....:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yeah, it didn't make much sense of DC's recent post.

"Binan station with the area where you park the motor. Garage next to him but the ticket office employees are often I see that a motorcycle and bisekleta dun."

What the? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:28 AM

Yeah, it didn't make much sense of DC's recent post.

"Binan station with the area where you park the motor. Garage next to him but the ticket office employees are often I see that a motorcycle and bisekleta dun."

What the? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

That garage will soon be demolished.

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 04:28 AM

Wew!!! It's hard to zoom it here. We'll thats good, can you redraw it Uncle Brad. Lets see if they can still revived this or just look into other Places like linking Batangas Port directly to Manila Port.

Batangas is a must really, as are inland freight terminals outside of Manila and at other major locations.
It must be so obvious to anyone in government that the day of road freight must be brought to an end, except as feeders to a major rail hub.

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:29 AM

Batangas is a must really, as are inland freight terminals outside of Manila and at other major locations.
It must be so obvious to anyone in government that the day of road freight must be brought to an end, except as feeders to a major rail hub.

Even Cambodia has it's own freight line... Whew!!! Pilipinas Pa Kaya! he he he...

Sky Harbor

May 14th, 2009, 04:34 AM

The problem is much of the Tagalog words now is hard to understand because most of the Filipinos today abbreviate words for the sake of TEXTING. he he he h....:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Actually, those words are now hard to understand because they fell out of common use in the 1970s. Taglish, propagated by the "Manila Sound" of Hotdog, became in, so to speak. Prior to that, very rarely would Tagalog and English mix in either dialogue or print, and people were still fluent in both languages. Pilipino at the time had purist tendencies.

The bigger blunder though in Taglish came from the moving of the medium of instruction from English to Filipino. No only did we begin replacing words en masse out of convenience ("Nasa refrigerator ang pagkain mo" is supposedly easier than "Nasa palamigan ang pagkain mo"), our English fluency also went into decline. The second was the definition of what Filipino is: a Tagalog-based language which is enriched by other Philippine languages, English, Spanish, etc. More often than not, instead of borrowing from Philippine languages or Spanish, we borrow from English, which led to our current predicament.

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:35 AM

happosai

May 14th, 2009, 04:37 AM

We'll ciguro baka hindi na mangyari yan. Definitely PNR will privatized parking system.

Sa Binan station may area kung saan pwede iparada ang mga motor. Parang garahe siya tabi ng ticket office pero mga empleyado ang madalas ko makita na naglalabas ng motorsiklo at bisekleta dun.

OT: Yun bike ko naman ayos na din na natitiklop kasi ginagamit ko din yun sa mga OB ko within Makati CBD

^^Once operational na ang mga bagong DMU. Plano ko na rin mag bike from our house to the PNR station in Blumentritt or station that is nearer the triangulo area. Magkakaroon kaya ng station within the triangulo area? May nakita kasi akong parang station ang structure, pero dinemolish.

OT: This is the bike I plan to buy:

http://fcolaco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/a_bike.jpg

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:37 AM

Going back to Tiaong Tracks again.. Straight na Straight....

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/Philrail/Tiaong-PNR2.jpg

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:39 AM

^^Once operational na ang mga bagong DMU. Plano ko na rin mag bike from our house to the PNR station in Blumentritt or station that is nearer the triangulo area. Magkakaroon kaya ng station within the triangulo area? May nakita kasi akong parang station ang structure, pero dinemolish.

OT: This is the bike I plan to buy:

http://fcolaco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/a_bike.jpg

Wow, HighTech, pero DC, bago nga ang tren pero baka pinahirapan mo naman ang sarili mo nyan magbisikleta. :lol:

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:56 AM

ay usapang kalye, last staurday i passed by along Mc Arthur Highway (Guguinto-Malolos)
pansin ko lang their doing road improvement from 2-lane to 4-lane. i think sinasabay nila sa nortrail project since this could be a major factor for industrialization of that area.

Very we'll accepted. If they will not expand the road before Northrail do its embankment, they will find it hard to excavate the drainage.

daily commuter

May 14th, 2009, 05:14 AM

OT: This is the bike I plan to buy:

http://fcolaco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/a_bike.jpg

OT: my friend, sa 168 mall meron ng ganyan model, i think 2nd floor sa area ng mga nagtitinda ng mga anime toys at airsoft guns. 5K ang price tawaran mo na lang. Ayoko kasi ng ganyan short distance lang ang kaya parang DMU. Yun akin naman 5000series :lol:

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 05:16 AM

daily commuter

May 14th, 2009, 05:28 AM

Pang LRT lang yata yan.

oo nga pala pang-LRT lang yan hehehe....

happosai

May 14th, 2009, 05:29 AM

OT: my friend, sa 168 mall meron ng ganyan model, i think 2nd floor sa area ng mga nagtitinda ng mga anime toys at airsoft guns. 5K ang price tawaran mo na lang. Ayoko kasi ng ganyan short distance lang ang kaya parang DMU. Yun akin naman 5000series :lol:

OT: Di kaya imitation lang yon? Mabisita nga this weekend. Kala ko online pa ako bibili.. :lol: Dalawa kasi pinag pipilian ko.. yang A-Bike or the Strida... Medyo malaki ng lang yung Strida...

http://www.omkmtb.co.kr/pds/rideimage/Strida50_SE0002012011.jpg

OnT:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/PNR_Updates/Image000.jpg
^^I stand corrected. MMDA pala yung nag lilinis ng estero sa Blumentritt. May nakita akong signage nakalagay MMDA. :lol: Nag improve na yung estero, medyo bumaba na yung tubig at nabawasan na ng basura. Pero tignan mo naman yang nasa kaliwa. Ang kakapal ng mga pagmumukha ng mga business establishment dyan. Nagtayo sila ng tolda sa ibabaw ng estero at ginawang imbakan ng gulong. Dba bawal yan.

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 05:39 AM

Actually, those words are now hard to understand because they fell out of common use in the 1970s. Taglish, propagated by the "Manila Sound" of Hotdog, became in, so to speak. Prior to that, very rarely would Tagalog and English mix in either dialogue or print, and people were still fluent in both languages. Pilipino at the time had purist tendencies.

The bigger blunder though in Taglish came from the moving of the medium of instruction from English to Filipino. No only did we begin replacing words en masse out of convenience ("Nasa refrigerator ang pagkain mo" is supposedly easier than "Nasa palamigan ang pagkain mo"), our English fluency also went into decline. The second was the definition of what Filipino is: a Tagalog-based language which is enriched by other Philippine languages, English, Spanish, etc. More often than not, instead of borrowing from Philippine languages or Spanish, we borrow from English, which led to our current predicament.

This is a very interesting topic for me. I watched a fantastic episode of Manalo Quezon's show here all about Tagalog and how it came about.
Think it was on my last trip, or the one before, they were debating mostly teaching english in schools there.
Many were complaining, and I agree, that this would mean the awful loss of the language. This should never be done.

Where do you guys personally see the Tagalog language in 30 years given the changes now?
My youngest son has been taught to speak Tagalog. Wish his dad found it so easy :-)

Brad

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 05:41 AM

OT: This is the bike I plan to buy:

http://fcolaco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/a_bike.jpg

How much?

What a strange looking bike. I presume it folds up?

daily commuter

May 14th, 2009, 05:43 AM

Tol, you are really a commuter one. A Japanese look, kasi importante sa Japan ang bisekleta, laging kaakibat sa transportation. Every station in Japan has parking spaces for bicycles. You can leave your bike there and take a train ride.

sana nga sir magkaroon na ng parking area para sa mga bicycle sa mga PNR station.

happosai

May 14th, 2009, 05:54 AM

How much?

What a strange looking bike. I presume it folds up?

Yup.. it folds like this:

http://www.abikecentral.com/images/Sinclair%20A-Bike%20Folding%20Bicycle.jpg

The price is around ￥58,800 in Japan.

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 05:54 AM

I take back the comment about Google translating better Japanese.

I have been trying to translate the Philrail site and this is what I got for 7C.

"The 20 vehicles from Japan delivered輌1949. Capacity 122, 2 +3配SHITA the box seat of passenger cars and people hanging, hung near the entrance is 2 +2, put the toilet in the middle. (The toilet was now removed, and any modifications to the vehicle RONGUSHITO) Overall length 22 meters. Legaspi"

daily commuter

May 14th, 2009, 05:54 AM

How much?

What a strange looking bike. I presume it folds up?

Sir Brad, price is P5,000.00 as per one store inside 168 mall, very near to tutuban mall.

daily commuter

May 14th, 2009, 05:57 AM

my friend happy happs, siguro nga imitation lang yun nasa 168 kasi laki ng diperensya sa price.

happosai

May 14th, 2009, 06:01 AM

^^OT nanaman: The original A-Bike is made of aluminum and weight at around 10kilos or less.

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 06:07 AM

Sir Brad, price is P5,000.00 as per one store inside 168 mall, very near to tutuban mall.

168 Mall. I am sure we have been there before.
The name sounds very familiar.
Imagine bringing one out here. Theres nothing like it here :lol:

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 06:09 AM

Yup.. it folds like this:

http://www.abikecentral.com/images/Sinclair%20A-Bike%20Folding%20Bicycle.jpg

The price is around ￥58,800 in Japan.

Incredible.
Now if we can convert it to 3ft 6inches we could do a ride to Legaspi :lol:

raphael478

May 14th, 2009, 07:20 AM

^^Anu sa tagalog ng air-con? :lol:

kahong pampalamig... :lol:

Sky Harbor

May 14th, 2009, 07:33 AM

^^ That's cooling box. Not all air conditioners are boxy. :lol:

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 07:44 AM

Yup.. it folds like this:

http://www.abikecentral.com/images/Sinclair%20A-Bike%20Folding%20Bicycle.jpg

The price is around ￥58,800 in Japan.

Wow!!!

pi_malejana

May 14th, 2009, 07:56 AM

OnT:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/PNR_Updates/Image000.jpg
^^I stand corrected. MMDA pala yung nag lilinis ng estero sa Blumentritt. May nakita akong signage nakalagay MMDA. :lol: Nag improve na yung estero, medyo bumaba na yung tubig at nabawasan na ng basura. Pero tignan mo naman yang nasa kaliwa. Ang kakapal ng mga pagmumukha ng mga business establishment dyan. Nagtayo sila ng tolda sa ibabaw ng estero at ginawang imbakan ng gulong. Dba bawal yan.

hmm.. nawala na ata ung mga natutulog sa riles haha...
hayaan mo yang mga business establishment na yan; pag umulan sana bahain na lang sila dyan...:bash:

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 07:59 AM

hmm.. nawala na ata ung mga natutulog sa riles haha...
hayaan mo yang mga business establishment na yan; pag umulan sana bahain na lang sila dyan...:bash:

Kailangan dyan sabunutan para yung mga baba nila pumasok sa mga suso nila.... :lol:

happosai

May 14th, 2009, 08:15 AM

Kailangan dyan sabunutan para yung mga baba nila pumasok sa mga suso nila.... :lol:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/icons/illustrations_tuzki015.gif Pumasok saan?? :lol: Kahit anung basa ko parang iba pagkaka intindi ko.. :lol:

happosai

May 14th, 2009, 08:18 AM

hmm.. nawala na ata ung mga natutulog sa riles haha...
hayaan mo yang mga business establishment na yan; pag umulan sana bahain na lang sila dyan...:bash:

Di sila nawala... di ko lang sila sinama sa picture. :lol: Kung makikita mo lang.. Ang bibigat na ng mga concrete ties. Napag dikit-dikit pa nila ito para gawin kama... http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/icons/illustrations_tuzki018.gif

absinthe_888

May 14th, 2009, 08:22 AM

pi_malejana

May 14th, 2009, 08:24 AM

Di sila nawala... di ko lang sila sinama sa picture. :lol: Kung makikita mo lang.. Ang bibigat na ng mga concrete ties. Napag dikit-dikit pa nila ito para gawin kama... http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/icons/illustrations_tuzki018.gif

haha, napansin ko nga...:bash: di bale, matapos tapos lang yang project na yan naku ewan ko na lang..

sa Pasay Road ginagawang tulugan din yung mga concrete ties. Sa Magallanes nakakita ako mga vagrants sa riles ngpipicnic, nagluluto sa riles mismo. ???

di ba this just shows na matalino at resourceful talaga ang mga pinoy... sana lang i-apply nila ito sa mas productive na paraan at hindi katamaran...:ohno:

:cheers:

happosai

May 14th, 2009, 10:03 AM

Hinugot sa Retrato: Filipinas Collection Thread 3

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/e8426.jpg

daily commuter

May 14th, 2009, 11:33 AM

jafiti

May 14th, 2009, 04:03 PM

As of May 14, 2009 - 4:05PM, ang Paco Station ay nandoon pa din po. Pumunta ako doon kanina after ng isang official business sa Remedios (via folding bike). Hinahanap ko din ang tanggapan ng RIHSPI kaso hindi ko nakita. Sana maayos pa ang building na iyon..

Office located opposite Paco Railroad Station. Please email first if you intend to visit

BTW, Buda 22 now in Tutuban... To be positioned Saturday...

ionmarx

May 14th, 2009, 04:26 PM

Hinugot sa Retrato: Filipinas Collection Thread 3

Wow... Those were the days... Ang luwag luwag luwag pa ng Tutuban!!!

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:29 PM

Photo courtesy of happss....
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/PNR_Updates/Image000.jpg

What do you think those small flag is all about? The color pink?

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 04:29 PM

Wow... Those were the days... Ang luwag luwag luwag pa ng Tutuban!!!

That's correct and were trying our best to revive it.

Mithril Cloud

May 14th, 2009, 05:17 PM

Some Tutuban Photos (5/14/09)

Facade:
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/PNRTutubanFacadeMC.jpg

Tracks:
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/PNRTutubanTracksMC.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/PNRTutubanTracks3.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/PNRTutubanTracks2MC.jpg

Towers:
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/PNRTutubanTowerMC.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/PNRTutubanWaterTower2MC.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/PNRTutubanWaterTowerMC.jpg

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 05:22 PM

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

YEEEEAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 05:24 PM

Mith, paano ba maglagay ng pangalan dyan sa pictures?

Mithril Cloud

May 14th, 2009, 05:29 PM

Just use an image editing program. Even MS Paint will do. How the watermark looks is all up to your imagination. :)

ionmarx

May 14th, 2009, 06:22 PM

^^ Kung tamad ka kagaya ko (hehehe), pwede rin Picasa by Google. Not very complex (which is nice) tapos pwede batching :D

Sky Harbor

May 14th, 2009, 06:55 PM

Some Tutuban Photos (5/14/09)

Facade:
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/PNRTutubanFacadeMC.jpg

Wikipedia can really use this pic, as well as that of the old Tutuban station. :D

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 06:57 PM

Wikipedia can really use this pic, as well as that of the old Tutuban station. :D

Sa June, babasagin ng mga Pasahero ng PNR ang tahimik ng lugar na eto. :)

Mithril Cloud

May 14th, 2009, 07:02 PM

A preview of what just arrived in Tutuban: :D

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/RIHSPIBudaArrival-1.jpg

wheel of steel

May 14th, 2009, 07:14 PM

A preview of what just arrived in Tutuban: :D

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/RIHSPIBudaArrival.jpg

Okkkkssss, extremely attractive.! :cheers:

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 11:10 PM

Okkkkssss, extremely attractive.! :cheers:

Looks terrific, great work guys.

manila_eye

May 14th, 2009, 11:33 PM

A preview of what just arrived in Tutuban: :D

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/RIHSPIBudaArrival.jpg

what is attractive in this picture?

barrera_marquez

May 14th, 2009, 11:39 PM

Teka nga pala people matanong nga, ang IRRI ba sa UP Los Baños may station malapit? Maganda kasi ang kundisyon ng riles nang nagpunta ako roon pero ginagamit ng mga de-tulak na trolley and sabi nila nung December, 2008 2 years ago pa raw may huling dumaan na tren doon.

May riles kasi ng PNR na dumaraan sa harap ng gates ng IRRI at ito ay papunta ng Bicol.

pi_malejana

May 14th, 2009, 11:42 PM

what is attractive in this picture?

:crazy:

that's a restored PNR car... a valuable piece...:okay:
all because of RIHSPI...:applause:

:cheers:

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 11:44 PM

:crazy:

that's a restored PNR car... a valuable piece...:okay:
all because of RIHSPI...:applause:

:cheers:

And a small bit by the RIHSPI-ANZ (sadly we are still in formation and are limited at the mo)

The work Karel and the guys did on it is nothing sort of fantastic. Its hard to believe the transformation since last I saw it.

Brad

alcogoodwin

May 14th, 2009, 11:44 PM

what is attractive in this picture?

The woman in the orange and white :lol:

pi_malejana

May 14th, 2009, 11:45 PM

^^ :lol: nice

Arciga_01

May 15th, 2009, 12:25 AM

A preview of what just arrived in Tutuban: :D

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/RIHSPIBudaArrival.jpg

Wow lufet! :banana:

Last time na nakita ko yan ay nabubulok na sa Tayuman yard diba? :nuts:

Mithril Cloud

May 15th, 2009, 12:41 AM

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/buda03.jpg
Before

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/RIHSPIBudaArrival4.jpg
After

Arciga_01

May 15th, 2009, 01:03 AM

Woo Lufet!! Kaso, nasan na un gulong nyan? :crazy:

Mithril Cloud

May 15th, 2009, 01:08 AM

It's still there.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/RIHSPIBudaArrival5.jpg

Arciga_01

May 15th, 2009, 01:16 AM

Thanks! Hinde ko sya napansin kanina :lol:

pi_malejana

May 15th, 2009, 01:19 AM

And a small bit by the RIHSPI-ANZ (sadly we are still in formation and are limited at the mo)

The work Karel and the guys did on it is nothing sort of fantastic. Its hard to believe the transformation since last I saw it.

Brad

and that too..:okay: hope there's also RIHSPI-N. America...:D

:cheers:

wheel of steel

May 15th, 2009, 02:51 AM

The woman in the orange and white :lol:

:lol:

daily commuter

May 15th, 2009, 03:01 AM

Office located opposite Paco Railroad Station. Please email first if you intend to visit

BTW, Buda 22 now in Tutuban... To be positioned Saturday...

Noted Sir Jafiti. Doon po ba nag office sa may building ng mayroon sangay ng Banco De Oro? Ang ganda talaga ng Paco Station lalo na yun eagle na nasa itaas. Tanda ko mayroon dati malaking orasan sa gitna ng gusali, nasaan na po iyon?

happosai

May 15th, 2009, 03:06 AM

A preview of what just arrived in Tutuban: :D

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/RIHSPIBudaArrival.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/icons/illustrations_tuzki012.gif Yeah baby!!! :banana::banana:

daily commuter

May 15th, 2009, 03:40 AM

Buendia-Malugay Update
as of May 14, 2009

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_229016037l.jpg
Wooden Ties

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_871222828l.jpg
Happy Happs, thank you very much. Na-deliver mo na pala yun order ko na concrete ties:lol:.

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_367288650l.jpg

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_496566535l.jpg

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_349521800l.jpg
^^Plasser & Theurer OBW 10S

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_220802861l.jpg
^^Future Site of Task Force Bantay Riles Makati Unit, Buendia-Malugay Chapter :lol:

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_796962584l.jpg
^^Buendia Crossing

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_593961285l.jpg

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_699601460l.jpg

http://photos-p.friends^^ter.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_593961285l.jpg

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_133438173l.jpg

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_232129155l.jpg
^^Malugay Crossing

alcogoodwin

May 15th, 2009, 04:23 AM

and that too..:okay: hope there's also RIHSPI-N. America...:D

:cheers:

At the moment the ANZ division is handling North America and we invite members to help us with this project..
Check HERE (http://philippinerailwayhistoricalsociety.blogspot.com) for more details.
Please feel free to join, we need all the support we can get, so we can give the guys in Manila all the support we can.

One day there may be a seperate division, if anyone else is as mad as us to go into the huge amount of work required to set such a group up outside the Phils.

Brad

timberpro

May 15th, 2009, 04:27 AM

they should really fix all the railroad crossings. They cause so much traffic. Vehicles slow down because of the uneven junctions.

alcogoodwin

May 15th, 2009, 04:31 AM

Trackwork Trains

Howdy where abouts would you be most likely to find those track machines and track work trains with PNR locomotives operating at the moment?
Is this work a 7 day a week things.

Any help appreciated
Cheers
Brad

GOODBYE Charles 'Bud' Tingwell - You will be sadly missed.
1923 - 2009
http://videodetective.com/photos/523/002196_19.jpg

daily commuter

May 15th, 2009, 05:16 AM

Trackwork Trains

Howdy where abouts would you be most likely to find those track machines and track work trains with PNR locomotives operating at the moment?
Is this work a 7 day a week things.

Any help appreciated
Cheers
Brad

Sir Brad,

They are doing works between Tutuban (I presummed) and Bicutan Station. All of the trackwork beasts are resting at Pasay Road Station under the shade of Skyway.

jpdm

May 15th, 2009, 05:43 AM

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

YEEEEAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!

I second the motion!!!!:cheers:

daily commuter

May 15th, 2009, 07:51 AM

I received an invitation for a gathering of Philippine Railways forumers on May 30, 2009 - Saturday. RIHSPI will surely be there. Anyone of you interested in joining the affair?

Mithril Cloud

May 15th, 2009, 07:54 AM

Buendia-Malugay Update
as of May 14, 2009

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/34/74/101944743/1_229016037l.jpg
Wooden Ties

Just my preference though, but I think it would look better with some transparency. Also, sent you a PM.

wheel of steel

May 15th, 2009, 08:29 AM