Why has Ireland been given there own Sub-Forums but the North East hasn't even come anywhere near it?

I was sure we were told that no more sub forums were going to be created as there were too many?

might have something to do with the sheer amount of projects going up and proposed in dublin and belfast. dublin alone has three times as many as the whole of the north east of england!

We have the same problem in the South-West.

I love the North-East the cradle of England and the library of Northern Europe, it was there where the greatest seats of learning were established North of the Alps in the Post-Roman period and the tradition still burns brightly there today. It is with sadness that I feel that both of our areas have been denied forums and I think not entirely without prejudice, the Celts seem to very quickly get their own way on this forum, yet we who have been campaigning for longer our denied it.

I hope that the North-East will work with us in the South-West in working to establish a forum for each of our regions.

might have something to do with the sheer amount of projects going up and proposed in dublin and belfast. dublin alone has three times as many as the whole of the north east of england!


How many does Wales / Cymru have?

only twice as many as the north east!

Gothicform:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/4/6796340_154bdb231e.jpg?v=0

only twice as many as the north east!

Wales has twice as many projects as the east coast of England from Newcastle to Hull?

might have something to do with the sheer amount of projects going up and proposed in dublin and belfast. dublin alone has three times as many as the whole of the north east of england!

I'm sorry gothicform but, unless i am missing something, thats a load of crap tbh, somehow i don't think Dublin has more than the whole of NE, unless your an expert and regularly read up and research developments just in Teesside never mind the whole of the North-East, you'll be surprised at how much is going on here, i'm sure there is many other projects in the rest of the North East that are worthy of a forum.

@Lost Boy: Loved your comments, and they are true. :P Teesside/North East Built the World!!! :P Without us this country wouldn't be what it is today e.g. just thinking off the top of my head - they'd be no match, meaning no light, no electricity and no trains either. I;m sure the SW played a great part too. ;)

Heres a good poem for you:

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I think if we had our own forum (as well as SW) we would all get more inovled in each others sub regions too, so there would be no issue of inactivity either.

dry your eyes

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I'm sorry gothicform but, unless i am missing something, thats a load of crap tbh, somehow i don't think Dublin has more than the whole of NE, unless your an expert and regularly read up and research developments just in Teesside never mind the whole of the North-East, you'll be surprised at how much is going on here, i'm sure there is many other projects in the rest of the North East that are worthy of a forum.

over ten floors. yes. 61 active projects for dublin alone, 23 for the entire north east of england.

To be honest, although I would love a NE forum I personally don't think we merit one- we not only don't have that many new developments we also don't have many people who use the current threads for each individual cities- It can go days on end with no one using the threads for the Teesside, Sunderland or Newcastle/Gateshead. The reason is that in reality we don't have much going on in our cities in comparison to other ares of the UK/ Ireland. The three north east current threads (and you are pushing it a bit to include Hull in a North East Forum) have a few people talking about possible projects and then nowt really happens.
In Teesside- I can find only 4 projects currently underway (not proposed or finished) and they include 2 lots of student accom, a college and a footbridge? Not a great deal. Newcastle aint much better just 11 projects currently underway (Downing 18 storey offices, Welbar office development, Eldon Square extension, RVI childrens hospital,Ncl Uni Student services building, New student accom,New Haymarket Metro station, Waygood Gallery, New City Library, Baltic Bus. Quarter and Metro Centre redevelopment)- not really that many- and I think there are even less projects underway in Sunderland compared to Teesside and with just a handfull of regular users each day on each thread I reckon they are right to not give us our own thread.
Of course the fact that this website is called Skyscraper City and none of our cities/ towns have any also doesnt bode well either!

I agree that they are not very active ( also take into account of population compared to the rest of the UK) but i don't agree that there isn't much going on, all of the projects in Teesside aren't listed there too, its just major ones.

Yes it may be a skyscraper forum but the majority of threads aren't discussing skyscrapers, infact alot of the time they aren't even discussing developments!

@Gothicform: N. Ireland have been given there own forum too, how many do they have?

belfast has 33, theres a LOT missing from the belfast list too. you might as well count cork, waterford and so on. people might not realise on these forums but the proposals for dublin have been rivalling manchester in terms of size and frequency!

Wales has twice as many projects as the east coast of England from Newcastle to Hull?

wales has 46 not counting completed ones! that makes it double the entire north east of england. the current tallest building under construction outside london right now is in wales. who'd have thunk it.

belfast has 33, theres a LOT missing from the belfast list too. you might as well count cork, waterford and so on. people might not realise on these forums but the proposals for dublin have been rivalling manchester in terms of size and frequency!

Office take-up in Dublin has been trouncing every regional UK city for years ( 2-3 times the space on a yearly basis ).

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I now don't think its fair to work on the basis of activity in these threads, as some may have 1000s of posts but less than half may be discussing developments, or they could be one word posts etc. etc.

P.S. I Hope you are all aware that Teesside encompasses Stockton, Middlesborugh, Darlington, Hartlepool and Redcar & Cleveland?

I suppose you could also count N. Yorkshire and County Durham in with us too if you had too.

in all fairness blame your local council. these are the guys who for years refused proposals for newcastle. other councils for the major cities in the uk approved some of theirs and have now built or are building 100m-ish towers. newcastle missed out on the tower boom. simple really. this below is an example... refused planning permission because newcastle apparently had no need for tall buildings!

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1771QuaysideTower_pic1.jpg

Isn't there a case for creating a forum to encourage people from different areas to get involved with the discussions on here? A lot of what we read is just willy-waving between Liverpool, Manchester and Leeds... which just goes round in circles and is insanely repetitious. I'd rather hear more about other places, as well as what's going on in these cities.

in all fairness blame your local council. these are the guys who for years refused proposals for newcastle. other councils for the major cities in the uk approved some of theirs and have now built or are building 100m-ish towers. newcastle missed out on the tower boom. simple really. this below is an example... refused planning permission because newcastle apparently had no need for tall buildings!

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1771QuaysideTower_pic1.jpg

Well in fairness that tower would have look daft where it was proposed and I agree with the council that there shouldnt be towers (of say over 15 storeys or over) down on the quayside.
The council has missed the boast to to speak in terms of building towers, and there is prime development land that would have suited towers but the council says "why build it just for the sake of it?"- and to be honest they are right- I don't think Newcastle could support tall towers. Newcastle city centre living is no where near as popular as in Manc, Leeds and Liverpool- so if you build loads of tall towers full of apartments they wouldn't have sold (the are struggling to sell the apartments that have been built) and as a city we certainly wouldnt have filled the towers with new businesses. So as much I would have loved to have seen a cluster of towers by St James's Park- it just aint gonna happen and I do kind of understand a little bit why the council hasnt done it.
I would just love to see what publics views of the towers that have been built in cities in say 25 years time? Some of then don't look like very good quality now, and will we end up with people hating them as people did after they built all the council blocks of flats- that they are currently knocking them down across the UK.

...And then they'll all be winging and you can say i told you so! :P

You could have the 'Dave's backyard development' thread.. don't mean we'll have owt big built at the mo.. The UK/Eire forum must have more sub-forums than half the other regions and yet, somehow.. we probably also have the least major developments going on at present!!!!

I'm pledging my support to 2 new subforums. One for the North East and one for the South. Only yesterday I produced a list of 70m+ towers U/C in the country and completely forgot about Portsmouth. I also had no idea there was a big one U/C in Ipswich. Big projects in these areas need there own threads!

There is also the Prada Skirts in Middlehaven , that says around 55m but i think the height could be much higher maybe 60-70m+ and the Student Accomidation maybe bigger than 55m approaching 70m and also if you were to see the 3d model of phase one of Middlehaven there is 3 tall towers closest to the riverside that are yet to be unvieled although i'm guessing those are in the early stages, theres also a couple dotted about in Stockton and other places in Teesside.