Height unknown but Montevetro is under construction whilst Bolands Mill proposal is progressing through planning.


http://www.treasuryholdings.com/TreasuryHoldingsCMUI/UserFiles/montevetro08%20small.jpg

http://www.treasuryholdings.com/files/Montevetro_view_5(Low).jpg


Malec any more images available for this? - these are a little small....


http://www.treasuryholdings.com/projectDetail.aspx?id=73

^^ You can just copy them from the dublin developments thread

Your images dont work no more:ohno:

OK, here they are:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5225/15634084rt3.th.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15634084rt3.jpg)

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3928/20811619kz4.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20811619kz4.jpg)


And the old proposal which I would have liked to be built :)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3564/60967563ks0.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=60967563ks0.jpg)

can someone explain a little more about these. what they are... eg offices. who the architect is?

can someone explain a little more about these. what they are... eg offices. who the architect is?



I will see if I can find out the architect - there is more info on the Treasury Holdings website - TreasuryHoldings.com in the Ireland section. The one beside the station is for offices only and is 16fls AFAIK. This is the one under construction.


Malec, yes id have preferred the original - unfortunately NIMBYism plays its part again. Having said that I do like both new proposals. The Bolands Mill development looks good. :)

so montevetro is the one next to the station and bolands mill is further down the river bank?

Yep!!

thanks. all is clear now :)

http://www.montevetro.ie/images/AERIAL-VIEW.jpg

Montevetro website


http://www.montevetro.ie/

Amazing photo of Dublin. Well impressed. Do you have any looking more westward to take in St Stephen's Green and TCD?

Unfortunately not but TCD and St Stephens Green are to the West of this picture - not East:)

Yes, I quickly realised that, hence the edit. You were quick off the mark.

Thats a great pic of Dublin, you can see all the way out to the airport.
Croker looks really impressive there.

WOW!! Thats a stunning areal of Dublin!!
I'm speechless!

Good find Odlum :applause::applause:

thanks oodlum, that has really been a big help with getting montevetro (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=1343) added properly to the site :) if you find any more information heavy pages please post them and ill see skyscrapernews is updated accordingly. i'll add bolands mill tomorrow.

NP - Dont think there is much info yet on Bolands Mill though. I think it is for commercial use though and looks around 20, 21 floors.


Also these buildings do look nice. Not overkill and not underkill - just right and around the scale we are looking for - well impressed from that point of view. In the context of the nearby U2 tower this area is really going to be transformed. Is the IFSC going to look average in comparision?:)


Identify the numbers in the aerial you get a prize!:D

Seems the Monte Vetro lift shaft preparations are complete. They have just erected a tower crane so the lift shaft should go up quickly enough:)

Looks like it'll beat watchtower to tallest for a while.

What height will it actually be?
It has to beat 60M to become the tallest.

There is a video now on the website

www.montevetro.ie


Just scroll over the pic.
Interesting building...

What height will it actually be?
It has to beat 60M to become the tallest.

63m

Cool, a new tallest, just about :)

From yesterdays Irish Times


Montevetro is going up by 3 floors a week.

The 15-storey building, Montevetro, will eventually stand 63 metres above the dock, offering uninterrupted views over much of the docklands area.

Treasury Holdings is spending €148 million on the office scheme which will be integrated into the Dart station at Grand Canal Dock. It will have a floor area of 19,509sq m (210,000sq ft) with the average floor offering 1,579sq m (17,000sq ft). Three penthouse floors will each have 650sq m (7,000sq ft) of space.

Apart from direct access to the Dart, the building will have up to 80 car-parking spaces over three basement levels. There will also be parking for bicycles and motorcycles.

Derek Nolan of Treasury Holdings said the radical design of the office building will provide column-free floor space and a flow of natural light. The 11th floor, 50 metres above ground, will also have a south-facing garden terrace, on a fifth of an acre, from which there will be views of Howth Head and across Dublin Bay to the Dublin mountains.

Nolan said they were noticing the popularity of the Grand Canal Dock area among the new media companies, evidenced by Google’s decision to locate there. “We believe that this is down to its central location, its accessibility and transport links and its array of trendy bars and restaurants.”

Over on archiseek alonso snapped this shot of the lift shafts going up.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u33/alonso32/P1000117.jpg


It's an interesting building as a wing of it juts out at an angle. It's not the height im intested in with this building, it's not that high, but it will still be a big building. Nice to see the pace at which construction is proceeding on it. Refreshing.

There is a live webcam on the website overseeing the construction of this - currently at basement level

http://kgi.ie/files/Projects/


Monte Vetro is a prime New Headquarters Building with water frontage frontage which is adjacent to Grand Canal Station.

The new offices Dublin's latest landmark commercial building in the rapidly expanding area of grand Canal Dock it delivers what it promises.

Kildownet working in conjunction with a Slipform climbing system constructed the core structure a height of 76 meters in just 18 working days which is over 4.2 meters vertical climbing every day bringing the overall program for the development forward by over six weeks.

Designed by leading world architects and office space planers DEGW working alongside with renowned Irish Architects O`Mahony Pike , Monte Vetro combines sensational looks with the best of office flexibility shape and form offering an incredible working environment with panoramic views.

http://kgi.ie/files/Projects/monte_vetro_04.jpg

http://kgi.ie/files/Projects/monte_vetro_10.jpg

http://kgi.ie/files/Projects/monte_vetro_01.jpg

http://kgi.ie/files/Projects/monte_vetro_02.jpg

http://kgi.ie/files/Projects/monte_vetro_07.jpg


To get the lift shafts up to 76m in just 18 days is excellent progress. Currently work is almost complete at basement level so main floor construction is about to begin.

more...




http://www.slipform-int.com/projects/2_fullsize_images/barrow_st/barrow_st02.jpg
http://www.slipform-int.com/projects/2_fullsize_images/barrow_st/barrow_st04.jpg

On webcam

http://www.montevetro.ie/webcam/Webcam.aspx

you can see the steel starting to go up on the right hand side.

Does anyone have any recent pics of this? How is it coming along? I haven't been down that way in a while.

The steel structure is going up pretty fast atm

Latest pic


http://www.flickr.com/photos/turgidson/3929454601/

The steel structure is going up pretty fast atm

Latest pic


http://www.flickr.com/photos/turgidson/3929454601/

wow big footprint. Much bigger than Liberty hall

New pics on flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/turgidson/4019868548/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/turgidson/4019835348/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/turgidson/4019835340/

Progress on this scheme

http://www.flickr.com/photos/turgidson/4126574042/

some glazing now...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/turgidson/4170037585/in/set-72157622114287660/

Nice project. What is the completition date?

Last time I saw this it was starting to look good . The windows had a blueish tint to them. I wonder if they'll be able to find tenants for such a large development.

now it looks like tall concrete prison :) what's the next step?

It's just a big corporate slab really.

Pic on flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/turgidson/4468822000/in/set-72157623148984860/

Took a DART in today and this looks very corporate but inpressive too. Looks well.

now it looks like tall concrete prison :) what's the next step?

your arrest.

Sorry to start a dead thread up again...
Anybody got any mock-ups of what they're going to do with bolands mill.
I stuck out like a sore thumb when i went down to grand canal to see the theatre

Fancydan, 'Aqua Vetro' can be seen in the background of this image. I don't know if these are still the uptodate plans for the site or what the current situation is. They dont have much on the treasury website for it.

http://www.montevetro.ie/images/gallery/gal06.jpg

Is Monte finished yet?

Has work temporarily halted on this development?

Thanks rubaDub, but what i'm wondering is whether Aqua Vetro is going to replace the old stone building or the big concrete silos on that site or both. And there are issues of the older buildings being listed because of 1916...
A big glass building between the old stone storehouses would look great, but i'd prefer if they kept the concrete silos and cut it with windows at all sorts of mentel angles it could look great. Could become the Irish War Museum or something like that.. Rather than just giving up such an important spot to offices

http://stephentrainor.com/images/_photos/boland's_flour_mill_l.jpg

Hi
Im taking Dart to Grand Canal almost every day and Monte Vetro is going really well. Right now they installing all windows around the building.

Thanks rubaDub, but what i'm wondering is whether Aqua Vetro is going to replace the old stone building or the big concrete silos on that site or both. And there are issues of the older buildings being listed because of 1916...
A big glass building between the old stone storehouses would look great, but i'd prefer if they kept the concrete silos and cut it with windows at all sorts of mentel angles it could look great. Could become the Irish War Museum or something like that.. Rather than just giving up such an important spot to offices

http://stephentrainor.com/images/_photos/boland's_flour_mill_l.jpg

Yeah, the idea would be to demolish the silo. It wasn't in existance in 1916, so it's of little historical significance.
The older buildings and warehouses, which are in themselves rather attractive will remain and be restored.

Montevetro seems to be nearly finished. I'm not sure if I like this building, but it's certainly imposing. Took some photos down that way this morning in brilliant sunshine.

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Here it is up close.

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And it's sexier neighbour just across the dock - Altovetro
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The real gem of the area of course is the new theatre and Grand Canal Square

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The area looks great down there now. Importantly for an urban setting, there's plenty of colour too.

As a highrise fan in Dublin, I have so little to celebrate that generally I like anything over 10 floors.....simply because their getting through An Bord Pleanala is an achievement.

However, its fairly hard to be enthusiastic about Montevetro. Granted the phot is from its plainer side, its definately much better view from the railway. However, basically its just an office slab.

Part of me wonders why this got permission whilst much betters designs were rejected....perhaps the anti highrise planners want to be able to point to how awful and uninspiring anything over 6 floors is!! That might seen crazy, but look at the thread about Montevetro on Archiseek.....you will see the DDDA rejected several more daring designs at pre-planning stage.

Personally I think this is a fine site for such a building. If they had allowed 5-10 more floors gradually tapering towards the waterside it would be much finer visually and still have the same if not more lettable space.

C

Really well taken photos Viking, thanks for sharing them. I'll be able to forgive the shortcomings of Montevetro if Aquavetro ever goes ahead.

Anyone actually know if Aqua has pp, or is it just a proposal??

They fixed the maximum shoulder height of this at 50 metres as far as I know, and the final height is around 63 metres. Pathetic really, but what can you do when they starting fixing maximum heights into a master plan. It's such a load of crap and infuriating. As far as I remember, Alto Vetro (the more interesting) went through Dublin City Council planning and not through the DDDA.

And as for the Watchtower and U2 tower, they started by fixing the maximum heights of these at 60 metres. Then more stalling, and competitions etc. before finally deciding on 120 metres. The delays and indecision took so long that I'll eat my shorts if either of these gets built in the next 5 years. Fat chance of anything happening in the near future.

Really well taken photos Viking, thanks for sharing them. I'll be able to forgive the shortcomings of Montevetro if Aquavetro ever goes ahead.

Anyone actually know if Aqua has pp, or is it just a proposal??

Thanks Nordisk celt. I had some better ones but they were too big in size to put them up. I think Aqua was just a proposal and I'm not sure if it ever went any further. Anyway - here's hoping!

Imagine we had a few 150m+ towers down there, it would look great, maybe someday...
Altovetro looks very nice.

Imagine we had a few 150m+ towers down there, it would look great, maybe someday...
Altovetro looks very nice.
High-rise is overstated as a panacea to Dublin's problems with low density developments. You need very strong business growth to fill these glass towers.

Don't confuse high rise with high density. It's possible to have a low-density, high-rise district. What we need in Dublin is consistently medium-rise everywhere, not just a few token areas of the city with 10-storey buildings. Our long term goal here should be to have the whole inner city up to the 8-storey level. This would do far more for density than a few token skyscrapers.

High-rise is overstated as a panacea to Dublin's problems with low density developments. You need very strong business growth to fill these glass towers.

Don't confuse high rise with high density. It's possible to have a low-density, high-rise district. What we need in Dublin is consistently medium-rise everywhere, not just a few token areas of the city with 10-storey buildings. Our long term goal here should be to have the whole inner city up to the 8-storey level. This would do far more for density than a few token skyscrapers.

Fully agree. However, that isn't the point. In dublin high-rise buildings are opposed and refused for no reason other then certain people don't want skyscrapers in Dublin.

Interesting view of Altovetro from Montevetro

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Another good shot. I know I've been known to take the odd photo or two in the past, but for any keen photographers out there, there's a good angle to shoot Montevetro from the Grand Canal at Herbert Place or the bridge at Northumberland Road...

Re: highrise. Don't think agree with tall buildings in the historic core at all, and would advocate the demolition of O'Connell Bridge House, Hawkins et al and Central Bank. However, a distinct high-rise district should be promoted east of the Customs House...

You can also get a good view of it from Baggot street bridge, of course you miss the lower floors but it still looks good

High-rise is overstated as a panacea to Dublin's problems with low density developments. You need very strong business growth to fill these glass towers.

Don't confuse high rise with high density. It's possible to have a low-density, high-rise district. What we need in Dublin is consistently medium-rise everywhere, not just a few token areas of the city with 10-storey buildings. Our long term goal here should be to have the whole inner city up to the 8-storey level. This would do far more for density than a few token skyscrapers.
Yeah I understand, but in the future if the economy gets better in years to come and starts to grow again, we could get more and more businesses to move into this district and create a dense cluster of 120m+ towers maybe 10-15 of them and we could have a skyline to look at from all parts of the city and break the tradition of low rise buildings, probably will never happen but you never know.:lol:

Another picture from a different angle:

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Actually - it looked better in real life ;-)

This is Monty from the other side.

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The building must look cool from the 'DORT'.

Actually not at all - very plain looking really. The front of it reminds me of a monolith.

REO to sell Montevetro building to Google (http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0217/reo-business.html)

Real Estate Opportunities has agreed the sale of the Montevetro office building on Barrow Street - Dublin's tallest commercial office building - to Google for €99.9m in cash.

Discussions between Treasury Holdings, a majority shareholder in REO, and Google began last year about Google taking a lease of the building but late last year developed into discussions for an outright sale. The company's existing Dublin facility is located in Barrow Street.

REO's development of the 15-storey building, which started in March 2008 and completed last month, comprises 210,000 square feet of prime office space in Grand Canal Dock, Dublin 2.

The three basement levels provide 80 car parking spaces and extensive additional bicycle and motor cycle spaces.

'The transaction is one of the largest sales of commercial property in Ireland in several years and the company believes it has achieved a very good price in the current market environment. Google is an iconic name globally and its decision to buy Montevetro is good news for Ireland and we wish them every success in their new home,' said REO Chairman Ray Horney.

'We are at capacity in our EMEA headquarters in Barrow Street and the additional space will allow us to relocate some teams to Montevetro and to create an even more spacious working environment for Googlers in our existing building,' commented John Herlihy, head of Google in Ireland.

'Acquiring Montevetro also means we have the space and flexibility to support our future operations,' he added.

NAMA has welcomed the deal. 'Based on the sale price achieved, all NAMA's outlay - acquisition price and further investment - has been recovered,' said NAMA chairman Frank Daly.

'It is an excellent example of NAMA's ability to enhance the value of its assets and will be seen as a positive sign for the Irish commercial property market,' he added.

REO also said this morning that the oil and gas exploration company Tullow Oil is to lease a total of 48,000 sq ft in the Central Park development in Leopardstown, Dublin.

Central Park is home to a range of blue chip clients including Vodafone, Volkswagen Bank, Lease Plan and Merrill Lynch.

Google must be about to expand big time taking that much office space. Good sign for the commercial property market in the city.

Google must be about to expand big time taking that much office space. Good sign for the commercial property market in the city.
It's a good sign for Google. Everywhere else in the city, stock is not moving.

This made me chuckle when I read it:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/1102/1224306913177.html?via=mr

EMPLOYEES AT Google’s European headquarters in Dublin could soon be able to add an onsite swimming pool to their list of office perks.

The internet search giant says it intends to apply to Dublin City Council for permission to build the pool and gym in the Montevetro building on Barrow Street, which it bought for just under €100 million.

The 15-storey block was built by Treasury Holdings, but sold by the National Asset Management Agency for €99.9 million after it acquired responsibility for bank loans held by the Dublin development company.

At 67m (220ft), the Montevetro is the tallest office building in the city and was intended to serve as a dramatic landmark at one of the entrances to Dublin’s docklands. Construction of the building started in March 2008 and was completed last January, but finance for the project had been controlled by Nama since April last year.

The building was constructed with three basement levels, which included parking for up 80 cars. While details of the application for planning permission for the pool, likely to be made to the council by the end of this week, are not yet available it is understood that it would occupy some of this space.

Google, which employs more than 2,000 people in the docklands area, has been operating from Ireland since 2003.

An onsite swimming pool, if approved by Dublin City Council planners, would be the latest leisure facility on offer to staff, who already have access to a gym and several pool tables, table tennis, table football, Scalextric and video-game consoles. Employees may also avail of a weekly relaxation massage.

While the company has no active policy against unions it is understood that most of its Dublin workers are not members of a union.

The company had been renting its two office buildings, also on Barrow Street, but bought them last March just two weeks after the Montevetro sale went through. It paid just over €100 million for the office blocks, Gordon House and Gasworks House, adjoining buildings on Barrow Street which were developed by Liam Carroll. His business subsequently collapsed, leaving him owing the banks some €1.2 billion.

Some Google staff have already moved into the Montevetro property, which is on the opposite side of the road to Gordon House and Gasworks House. The company says it is still planning the final “fit-out”, which it will use to support future growth in Dublin.

(We have to pay for the massages so they are not free anyway :p)

Google have been given permission by Dublin city council to changes to the Montevetro building which Google own outright. They are taking on 1,000 extra employees and renaming the building "Google Docks"

http://sociable.co/business/google-to-open-google-docks-in-dublin/

Google Docks > Montvetro. Is this an entirely new 1000 people, or have they already hired most of them?

This is Monty from the other side.

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The building must look cool from the 'DORT'.

Actually not at all - very plain looking really. The front of it reminds me of a monolith.

I don't know if they are still on the Net but originally there were much more dynamic plans for Montevetro....which were turned down several times. An Bord Planala eventually allowed the current design......since they are avowedly anti-highrise, the cynical amongst us wonder did they deliberately allow this version to proceed to reinforce the myth that "tall buildings are ugly"!:)

What kind of changes do Google want to make.
Do they want to construct anything on to it or is it just the name.

I don't know if they are still on the Net but originally there were much more dynamic plans for Montevetro....which were turned down several times. An Bord Planala eventually allowed the current design......since they are avowedly anti-highrise, the cynical amongst us wonder did they deliberately allow this version to proceed to reinforce the myth that "tall buildings are ugly"!:)

But I don't think it's ugly at all. Plain, but strong lines, and the yellow inserts inside the windows look good.

But I don't think it's ugly at all. Plain, but strong lines, and the yellow inserts inside the windows look good.

I actually like those too:) They are especially pleasing when the spine of the building is viewed from the basin!

I actually like those too:) They are especially pleasing when the spine of the building is viewed from the basin!

I like it better then most buildings in the city.

Google is inviting Barrow street residents around tomorrow evening to discuss their plans for Monty and changes they're going to make to Gordon House. Might be worth a nosey.

Google given go-ahead for glass bridge linking offices

Tuesday May 22 2012

GOOGLE has got the go-ahead for a new development at its European HQ in Dublin with the blessing of docklands chiefs.

The tech giant was given planning permission by Dublin City Council to build a three-armed link bridge connecting Google Docks at Grand Canal Dock in Dublin 4 to both Gordon House and the Gasworks office block.

Primarily constructed of steel and glass, it will be 4.2 metres in height and nearly eight metres above street level.

In response to local concerns, the council asked the company to submit details on how the bridge will be lit during the day and at night-time.

The Dublin Docklands Development Authority (DDDA) had weighed in behind the bridge proposal, saying it would provide an "interesting element" to the corners of the buildings and Barrow Street.

A separate application from Google to convert part of a ground-floor car park into a 380-seater auditorium has been delayed, with planners requesting more details on the proposals.

In respect of the auditorium proposal, the council asked the firm to lodge a flood risk assessment. The council will consider the auditorium assessment before coming to a final decision on the application.

www.herald.ie

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Nice winter shot. Thanks for sharing. It'll be really nice down there when aqua vetro site is developed!!!

On such a prime site right beside a rail station, it should have been this height.

http://i.imgur.com/TIjdNjG.jpg

On such a prime site right beside a rail station, it should have been this height.



I would disagree - sticks out like a sore thumb, high rise needs to be built in clusters (should have happened on the North quays)

I would disagree - sticks out like a sore thumb, high rise needs to be built in clusters (should have happened on the North quays)

This is the perfect place for a cluster of highrises. You have the dock, the DART station, future Luas to Poolbeg, easy access to port tunnel via East Link.

Perhaps it's a little wide, but it's only 27 floors.

I would disagree - sticks out like a sore thumb, high rise needs to be built in clusters (should have happened on the North quays)

It only sticks out because the Accenture and BT buildings are undersized anyway. They should each be about 12 storeys at least. The apartments next to them could do with a bit of stretching too. There exists fantastic potential to create a cluster of properly-tall buildings around Grand Canal Dock - Alto and Montevetro plus Millennium Tower provide precedent, there are still plenty of underdeveloped sites and Aqua Vetro presents much promise. We could yet have a skyscraper district if a couple more buildings taller than Liberty Hall get built around it. It'd also provide the producers of Raw with loads of cool urban establishing shots for Series 9!

I would disagree - sticks out like a sore thumb, high rise needs to be built in clusters (should have happened on the North quays)

But how can this not stick out and how can you build a cluster of high-rise when there is no high-rise in the city? This building could of been a start.

It only sticks out because the Accenture and BT buildings are undersized anyway. They should each be about 12 storeys at least. The apartments next to them could do with a bit of stretching too. There exists fantastic potential to create a cluster of properly-tall buildings around Grand Canal Dock - Alto and Montevetro plus Millennium Tower provide precedent, there are still plenty of underdeveloped sites and Aqua Vetro presents much promise. We could yet have a skyscraper district if a couple more buildings taller than Liberty Hall get built around it. It'd also provide the producers of Raw with loads of cool urban establishing shots for Series 9!

I am sorry guys but I get all these buildings mixed up. Which one is Aqua Vetro again? Is that the one that's been proposed? How high is/was that supposed to be?

I am sorry guys but I get all these buildings mixed up. Which one is Aqua Vetro again? Is that the one that's been proposed? How high is/was that supposed to be?

Treasury Holdings do make things a little confusing with their fascination with the Italian word for glass! Alto Vetro(High Glass) is this slim residential tower of 16 storeys -
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It has the distinction of being the apartment building with the highest plot ratio in the city (and probably country).

Monte Vetro (Mount of Glass) is the building up above while Aqua Vetro (Water Glass) is a bit more vague but the overall plan is to replace a lot of the grain silos of the former Boland's Mill with a set of new office blocks. This is the latest design on the Treasury site-
http://www.treasuryholdings.com/rubylith/images/banner_image/227/aquavetro_Aug_2011.jpg?1312902972

which is quite different to the design mooted in the Monte Vetro brochures (Aqua Vetro is the one to the background of the shot) - photo of Monte and Aqua (http://www.google.ie/imgres?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&sa=X&tbo=d&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&biw=1366&bih=665&tbm=isch&tbnid=Ee5nel8Ulyu_qM:&imgrefurl=http://www.thejournal.ie/google-snaps-up-namas-montevetro-for-e99-9m-86154-Feb2011/&docid=yJ0_6VjNPJmSIM&imgurl=http://s1.jrnl.ie/media/2011/02/Montevetro-390x285.jpg&w=390&h=285&ei=IUQAUfzjOIOHhQfw_4Ag&zoom=1&iact=hc&dur=704&sig=102510302827765813670&page=1&tbnh=154&tbnw=196&start=0&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:0,i:98&tx=117&ty=131&vpx=836&vpy=64&hovh=192&hovw=263)


I prefer the latter design as it would blend better with Monte and Alto. The new design in comparison looks very uninspiring. It also looks taller!

Cheers Dvblvnia for that:)

I remember them now. That whole ''aqua'' thing is annoying. Soon they will be naming buildings Aqua Shite and mad other names like that.

I heard that Aqua Vetro was supposed to be something like 90 meters tall. It probably wont even be built. Has it been cancelled?

Cheers Dvblvnia for that:)

I remember them now. That whole ''aqua'' thing is annoying. Soon they will be naming buildings Aqua Shite and mad other names like that.

You're welcome! Hahaha, yeah they are fairly pretentious alright. In fairness they were conceived in the last few years of the Celtic Tiger so it was part of a general madness.

I heard that Aqua Vetro was supposed to be something like 90 meters tall. It probably wont even be built. Has it been cancelled?

I remember hearing something like that. There were supposed to be about 24 floors and with an average floor-height of about 4.5m it'd give the building a height of 90-100 metres. I don't think it's been cancelled, just put on almost indefinite hold which is almost the same. Treasury were fairly ballsy in pushing ahead with Montevetro even as the commercial property market was collapsing so it's possible they'll want to move ahead with it whenever they can. That said, they are under the aegis of NAMA now so it'll be up to them to decide whether it's worth it. Their experience with successfully selling Monte to Google may encourage them that there's a market for another tall office block on Grand Canal Dock.

But how can this not stick out and how can you build a cluster of high-rise when there is no high-rise in the city? This building could of been a start.

It couldn't have been - there are no sites vacant like there were in the Docklands 10 years ago. High rise building in a Georgian city like Dublin need a master plan not just builders building sporadic high rises in the hope that owners of surrounding buildings will rebuild in a similar fashion. The docklands was the perfect opportunity as was the area around Hueston station.

That said, they are under the aegis of NAMA now so it'll be up to them to decide whether it's worth it. Their experience with successfully selling Monte to Google may encourage them that there's a market for another tall office block on Grand Canal Dock.

They aren't under the aegis of Nama - Treasury have been wound up, some of the directors have set up a company which is employed by Nama to manage the buildings such as Spencer Dock but Treasury is no more.

It couldn't have been - there are no sites vacant like there were in the Docklands 10 years ago. High rise building in a Georgian city like Dublin need a master plan not just builders building sporadic high rises in the hope that owners of surrounding buildings will rebuild in a similar fashion. The docklands was the perfect opportunity as was the area around Hueston station.

But the Grand Canal Docks is a perfect place for high-rise. That area and the docks are perfect.

What I like about it is that its on a waterfront and a perfect way to welcome people into the city. Dublin would look amazing if it had high-rise on the docks and a coastal skyline. Pictures on a postcard please:)

We had/have an opportunity to have a coastal skyline. Most cities would die for that. We can have it but we have people in this city who reject to every bit of height under the sun(funny JD:lol:). We have an opportunity to show the world that we are open for business and a world class city by welcoming them into the city via the port or airport which would show off our fancy new skyline.

I am going to stay positive and say that we still have that potential even though we will never show it under the current people who run, or should I say ruin this city.

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In 50-100 years Dublin will have a coastal skyline. That is if it continues to expand economically. Hopefully I might be around to see it!!!

Not only are we fortunate to have the possibilty of a coastal waterfront skyscraper district. The views of hills, coastal villages, islands, howth and beaches that would be afforded from such a district would be pretty spectacular.

Anyway, it's a long, long way off at this stage!!!

I'd edge more towards the 100 year mark though :ohno:

But the Grand Canal Docks is a perfect place for high-rise. That area and the docks are perfect.

What I like about it is that its on a waterfront and a perfect way to welcome people into the city. Dublin would look amazing if it had high-rise on the docks and a coastal skyline. Pictures on a postcard please:)

We had/have an opportunity to have a coastal skyline. Most cities would die for that. We can have it but we have people in this city who reject to every bit of height under the sun(funny JD:lol:). We have an opportunity to show the world that we are open for business and a world class city by welcoming them into the city via the port or airport which would show off our fancy new skyline.

I am going to stay positive and say that we still have that potential even though we will never show it under the current people who run, or should I say ruin this city.

You mean Ringsend sewage treatment plant isnt the ideal way to welcome visitors coming through our port!!??

You mean Ringsend sewage treatment plant isnt the ideal way to welcome visitors coming through our port!!??

I love the chimneys because they are a part of Dublin but the rest of it can go. Develop the chimneys into something good and build a brand new high-rise area down there.

I love the chimneys because they are a part of Dublin but the rest of it can go. Develop the chimneys into something good and build a brand new high-rise area down there.

The chimneys are the ESB's - landmark in themselves and there was talk of them becoming a protected structure at one stage...not sure if it ever materialised.

The chimneys are the ESB's - landmark in themselves and there was talk of them becoming a protected structure at one stage...not sure if it ever materialised.

Very true mate. They are a part of the cities history and the tallest things in the city. We should do something good with them. Give them a clean and they will be looking brand new.