Pourquoi Les Tunisiens se sentent plus proches des Marocains et vice versa ?

[Tounsi]

Je sais que je rsique de faire des remouds avec ce thread mais la question se pose !!! ^^

Alors que la Tunisie acceuillent chaque année plus de 1.5 millions de toursites Algériens et malgré la proximité géographique de l'Algérie je peux vous affirmer que la majorité des Tunisiens se sentent bien plus en phase avec les Marocains qu'avec nos voisins Algériens ..

Et il semblerait que cela soit le cas chez nos voisins Marocains... Personnellement j,ai beaucoup d d'amis marocains avec qui je m'entends à merveille et qui me disent que eux aussi se sentent bine plus proche des Tunisiens que de leur voisins Algériens même si linguistiquement le dialecte marocain est plus proche de l'Algérien que du Tunisien.

Nous partageons une histoire commune qui est à travers les âges est bien plus dense avec les Algériens qu'avec les Marocains .

[Mister79]

What is the relations between Tunisians and Libyans? because you have also a lot of Libyan tourists..

[MoroccanChica]

Je pense que c'est un petit peu du aux relations amicales entre les deux pays. Malheureusement on a beau se dire que les politiciens menent leurs propres guerres mais le conflit algero-marocain cause quand meme des frictions. Peut-etre que le regime plutot stable, ferme et monotonique de BenAli a fait en sorte que les Tunisiens, comme les Marocains sous leur roi, soient apolotiques, pratiques et traditionnels. De plus, Les Tunisiens comme les Marocains considerent leur melting-pot historique et leur capacite de marier les extremes comme un de leur plus grands atouts.

Mais bon, sans jouer aux favoris bien...Nous aimons tout nos Magrebins et vive la difference.

[Amazigh_89]

oui c'est vrai je pense aussi que les marocains se sentent plus prooche au tunisiens et vice versa

[Redalinho]

Perso je me suis aussi bien proche d'un Algérois que d'un Tunisois ou que d'un Marrakchi

[setifis]

Je sais que je rsique de faire des remouds avec ce thread mais la question se pose !!! ^^

Alors que la Tunisie acceuillent chaque année plus de 1.5 millions de toursites Algériens et malgré la proximité géographique de l'Algérie je peux vous affirmer que la majorité des Tunisiens se sentent bien plus en phase avec les Marocains qu'avec nos voisins Algériens ..

Et il semblerait que cela soit le cas chez nos voisins Marocains... Personnellement j,ai beaucoup d d'amis marocains avec qui je m'entends à merveille et qui me disent que eux aussi se sentent bine plus proche des Tunisiens que de leur voisins Algériens même si linguistiquement le dialecte marocain est plus proche de l'Algérien que du Tunisien.

Nous partageons une histoire commune qui est à travers les âges est bien plus dense avec les Algériens qu'avec les Marocains .


Don’t get mistaken, You are totally wrong, don’t trust your feelings or base you judgements on a few relationships between u and some Moroccans friends.

Politically there is a trouble between Morocco and Algeria. But in fact Moroccans and Algerians are the same people, they get on with each other much easier from the Romans time. Tunisians are closer to Libyans and Egyptians.

[simo13]

les tunisiens ne sont ni proches des algériens ni des marocains, mais plutot des libyens et pays du golfe.

et puis il n'y a pas vraiment de conflit entre les algériens et les tunisiens

l'algérie acceuille toujours les réfugiés tunisiens chez eux et regularise leur situation sans probleme

[jazair000]

qu'est que vous racontez setifis et simo13
moi je vient de l'est et pour moi et bien d'autres les tunisiens sont comme nous
mais ce qui est vrais c'est que certaines personnes de l'ouest ce sentent plus proches des marocains

[jazair000]

a entendre parler setifis (c'est pas une insulte) c'est que tu connais mal les differents regions de l'algerie et les diversités culturelles



l'algerie le pays continent

[Tounsi]

qu'est que vous racontez setifis et simo13
moi je vient de l'est et pour moi et bien d'autres les tunisiens sont comme nous
mais ce qui est vrais c'est que certaines personnes de l'ouest ce sentent plus proches des marocains


Par contre ca il faut l'avouer les Algeriens de l'est( qui me semble sous-represente ) sont similaire aux Tunisien a plusieurs niveaux , Annaba Constantine, Tebessa,

Les annabois parle presque le meme dialecte que nous .

L'Algerie est immense et je crois que les differences entre l'Ouest et lEst sont aussi importante que celle que nous ressentons avec les Algeriens de Oran par exemple...

@ Simo13: Des refugies tunisiens ?ou bien tu voulais dire des refugies algeriens ?

Nous ne somems definitivement pas plus proche des pays du golfe et surtout pas des Egyptiens !!! Du Liban oui c est clair , les Lybiens oui on parle le meme dialecte presque mais la encore un Lybien de Benghazi ...^^

[setifis]

a entendre parler setifis (c'est pas une insulte) c'est que tu connais mal les differents regions de l'algerie et les diversités culturelles



l'algerie le pays continent


II know Algeria very well, myself I am from Setif (east Algeria). True that’s Algerians near Tunisian borders sounds similar like Tunisian near Algerian borders.. But you are speaking a bout a limited number.. Don’t forget that there are 5 Algerian Wilayats on the east that they speak Tachaouit or they are Chaoui they are the grand sons of Kahina..
That doesn’t mean we don’t love the Tunisian, we like them and they are brothers, in Setif we have many families living there, and never felt stranger. And never get treated like strangers.

[jazair000]

i'll talk people spoke or chaoui identfying

i thank you know the history and geography from all the countries of north africa ( from morocco to egypt ) from punic period

i just say that the east algerians is in general have always been linked with tunisia
this is not the case of west algerians


L'ALGERIE LE PAYS CONTINENT

[UtopianSkyscraper]

Algériens, tunisiens ou marocains tous les même ! Personnellement je ne fait pas la différence... du moins je ne la fait plus aujourd'hui.
Vive la paix et la fraternité entre les peuples ! :nocrook:

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[Tetwani]

Peut être à cause de notre politique économique et politique tout court.
Dans un vieux Royaume capitaliste jusqu'à la moelle comme le Maroc, on aime pas trop l'agitation et les révolutions... Donc, on apprécie les Tunisiens pour leur calme. Par contre les algériens passe (ou plutôt passaient) pour des révolutionnaires socialo-communistes.

Mais encore une fois je n'en sais rien, ce qui est sûr c'est que les marocains pensent que si les Algériens avaient plus de pragmatisme et moins d'idéologie comme les Tunisiens, l'UMA aurait été l'une des plus importante union au monde.

[apocalypse 2012]

allow me to add one small statement which seperate the history of morocco from our neighbours, algerians or tunisians or even the libyans is that, first of all morocco is the only country in north africa and the arab world that hasn't been ruled by the ottomans turks despite of their persistence in doing so and their several wars they waged against the souveregnity of morocco but turned always into failure morocco managed to stay an independent standing power and also a feared kingdom by the super powers back then, especialy after morocco managed to defeat the mighty then spaniard/portugeuse armies in the famous battle of the 3 kings where the portuguese monarch was crushed and perished as for the french the last country in the maghreb to be colonized is morocco and the spaniard and the french unite against us after their single individual efforts prove to be ineffective. they had to devide the country into two colonies as that proved to be the only feasible way to control morocco unlike our neighbours tunisia after the ottmans the french ruled it for alomost 80 years, algeria 131years. morocco submited the protectorate rule for 10 years and the proclaimed occupation 34 years so in total 44 years of rule by the french which makes their staying into morocco the SHORTEST RULE IN THE HALL MAGHREB ......these are just historic facts that could be added to this intresting ( table ronde ) subject:):cheers:

[Tetwani]

allow me to add one small statement which seperate the history of morocco from our neighbours, algerians or tunisians or even the libyans is that, first of all morocco is the only country in north africa and the arab world that hasn't been ruled by the ottomans turks despite of their persistence in doing so and their several wars they waged against the souveregnity of morocco but turned always into failure morocco managed to stay an independent standing power and also a feared kingdom by the super powers back then, especialy after morocco managed to defeat the mighty then spaniard/portugeuse armies in the famous battle of the 3 kings where the portuguese monarch was crushed and perished as for the french the last country in the maghreb to be colonized is morocco and the spaniard and the french unite against us after their single individual efforts prove to be ineffective. they had to devide the country into two colonies as that proved to be the only feasible way to control morocco unlike our neighbours tunisia after the ottmans the french ruled it for alomost 80 years, algeria 131years. morocco submited the protectorate rule for 10 years and the proclaimed occupation 34 years so in total 44 years of rule by the french which makes their staying into morocco the SHORTEST RULE IN THE HALL MAGHREB ......these are just historic facts that could be added to this intresting ( table ronde ) subject:):cheers:

Thank you for that interesting part of history.

But this is not the topic!!

Hors-sujet!

[Tounsi]

allow me to add one small statement which seperate the history of morocco from our neighbours, algerians or tunisians or even the libyans is that, first of all morocco is the only country in north africa and the arab world that hasn't been ruled by the ottomans turks despite of their persistence in doing so and their several wars they waged against the souveregnity of morocco but turned always into failure morocco managed to stay an independent standing power and also a feared kingdom by the super powers back then, especialy after morocco managed to defeat the mighty then spaniard/portugeuse armies in the famous battle of the 3 kings where the portuguese monarch was crushed and perished as for the french the last country in the maghreb to be colonized is morocco and the spaniard and the french unite against us after their single individual efforts prove to be ineffective. they had to devide the country into two colonies as that proved to be the only feasible way to control morocco unlike our neighbours tunisia after the ottmans the french ruled it for alomost 80 years, algeria 131years. morocco submited the protectorate rule for 10 years and the proclaimed occupation 34 years so in total 44 years of rule by the french which makes their staying into morocco the SHORTEST RULE IN THE HALL MAGHREB ......these are just historic facts that could be added to this intresting ( table ronde ) subject:):cheers:

With all the due respect we do not share the same perspective of these actual historical facts .

Tunisia is in the center of the mediterranean world , as such it has been very the focal point of all the civilisations throughout our history . Tunisia is known for it s flexibility and it s hospitality . With all the various super powers that invaded Tunisia, they adapted to the tunisian way of living and it made us stronger and diverse wich is in my opinion a very good thing .


We do not look at our history as a serie of invasion but as different layers ,contributions to what is Tunisia today . From the first Berbers who settled into our land we are the result of people from all the mediterranean world and above ^^

[simohamed]

c'est que les marocains pensent que si les Algériens avaient plus de pragmatisme et moins d'idéologie comme les Tunisiens, l'UMA aurait été l'une des plus importante union au monde.

Et vice versa :)

[Tetwani]

Et vice versa :)

Arrête tu le dit juste par orgueil, tu vas pas me dire que vous êtes plus pragmatiques que nous!

[simohamed]

chouf c'est comme le magnétisme

le pole sud + le pole sud ne s'attirent pas :) car ils sont pareils
le pole sud + le pole nord s'attirent car ils sont differents


c exactement pareil avec nous , "on se ressemble" tellement que bon .. on va pas dire qu'on se deteste mais se repousse un peu

tu demande a un algérien pk il aime pas les marocains
tu demande a un marocain pk il aime pas les algériens

ils vont te répondre la meme chose fait l'experience tu verra tu va dire kane 3andou lha9 had simohamed :)

[Tetwani]

chouf c'est comme le magnétisme

le pole sud + le pole sud ne s'attirent pas :) car ils sont pareils
le pole sud + le pole nord s'attirent car ils sont differents


c exactement pareil avec nous , "on se ressemble" tellement que bon .. on va pas dire qu'on se deteste mais se repousse un peu

tu demande a un algérien pk il aime pas les marocains
tu demande a un marocain pk il aime pas les algériens

ils vont te répondre la meme chose fait l'experience tu verra tu va dire kane 3andou lha9 had simohamed :)

Mdr:lol::lol:

C'est possible!

[Shield]

allow me to add one small statement which seperate the history of morocco from our neighbours, algerians or tunisians or even the libyans is that, first of all morocco is the only country in north africa and the arab world that hasn't been ruled by the ottomans turks despite of their persistence in doing so and their several wars they waged against the souveregnity of morocco but turned always into failure morocco managed to stay an independent standing power and also a feared kingdom by the super powers back then, especialy after morocco managed to defeat the mighty then spaniard/portugeuse armies in the famous battle of the 3 kings where the portuguese monarch was crushed and perished as for the french the last country in the maghreb to be colonized is morocco and the spaniard and the french unite against us after their single individual efforts prove to be ineffective. they had to devide the country into two colonies as that proved to be the only feasible way to control morocco unlike our neighbours tunisia after the ottmans the french ruled it for alomost 80 years, algeria 131years. morocco submited the protectorate rule for 10 years and the proclaimed occupation 34 years so in total 44 years of rule by the french which makes their staying into morocco the SHORTEST RULE IN THE HALL MAGHREB ......these are just historic facts that could be added to this intresting ( table ronde ) subject:):cheers:


So what's the conclusion ?

With all the due respect we do not share the same perspective of these actual historical facts .

Tunisia is in the center of the mediterranean world , as such it has been very the focal point of all the civilisations throughout our history . Tunisia is known for it s flexibility and it s hospitality . With all the various super powers that invaded Tunisia, they adapted to the tunisian way of living and it made us stronger and diverse wich is in my opinion a very good thing .


We do not look at our history as a serie of invasion but as different layers ,contributions to what is Tunisia today . From the first Berbers who settled into our land we are the result of people from all the mediterranean world and above ^^


Well that's not what all Tunisians think,you should speak only on your behalf.
Because not everyone sees the french colonisation the same way as you.

[Tounsi]

So what's the conclusion ?




Well that's not what all Tunisians think,you should speak only on your behalf.
Because not everyone sees the french colonisation the same way as you.


The french colonisation took place for roughly about 70 years . it is also the most recent one , as such it s still vivid in our collective memory. despite all the atrocities , and the pillage of our natural ressources it has also been 50 years of development at many levels including our constitution and that is a fcat not a presumption Shield ^^^^

[Shield]

The french colonisation took place for roughly about 70 years . it is also the most recent one , as such it s still vivid in our collective memory. despite all the atrocities , and the pillage of our natural ressources it has also been 50 years of development at many levels including our constitution and that is a fcat not a presumption Shield ^^^^



It's your opinion and i repect it but i just advice you to speak on your behalf because not all Tunisians think that way,i don't speak in the name of France here everyone has the right to express his own opinion.

[apocalypse 2012]

With all the due respect we do not share the same perspective of these actual historical facts .

Tunisia is in the center of the mediterranean world , as such it has been very the focal point of all the civilisations throughout our history . Tunisia is known for it s flexibility and it s hospitality . With all the various super powers that invaded Tunisia, they adapted to the tunisian way of living and it made us stronger and diverse wich is in my opinion a very good thing .


We do not look at our history as a serie of invasion but as different layers ,contributions to what is Tunisia today . From the first Berbers who settled into our land we are the result of people from all the mediterranean world and above ^^

TUNISIA IS THE CENTER OF THE MEDITERANEAN WORLD....THAT'S THE FUNNIEST STATEMENT I VE READ IN THIS FORUM.:lol:
TO MY UNDERSTUNDING ABOUT HISTORIC FACTS OF CARTHAGE IS THAT AFTER THE BRAVE HANIBAL FAILED OF CAPTURING ROME & DESTROYING IT WHEN HE WAS PRETTY CLOSE OF DOING SO THE ROMANS CAME TO CARTHAGE SAT IT ALL ON FIRE AND THREW SALT BEHIND THEM, SO THAT LIFE WILL NEVER RISE THERE AGAIN AS THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR PRACTICES BACK THEN TO FINNISH OFF WITH THEIR ENEMY ONCE AND FOR ALL .CARTHAGE HAS BEEN UNHEARD OF SINCE THEN AND THE ROMANS TOOK OVER ...WHICH CONTRADICT TOTALY WHAT YOU SAY AS FOR YOU NOT SHARING MY HISTORIC FACTS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF MOROCCO NOT ONLY WE WERE THE ONLY NATION THAT MANAGED TO PUSH THE TURKS FROM INVADING US AFTER MANY DESPERATE ATTEMPTS UNLIKE THE OTHER PARTS OF NORTH AFRICA THAT SURROUNDERD TO THE OTTOMANS MOROCCO WAS THE ONLY AFRICAN COUNTRY THAT HAD BORDERS IN AFRICA AND EUROPE THAT WAS SPREAD FROM THE RIVER OF SENGAL AND OTHER PARTS OM MALI ( TIMBOUKTOU ) FROM SOUTH TILL THE BORDERS OF FRANCE AND SPAIN IN THE NORTH ALL MONOPOLIZED AND GOVERNED FROM THE MOORISH SEVILLA AND MARRAKECH AS MOROCCO WAS SPREAD TILL THE EAST BEYOND TUNISIA AND UP TO LIBYA AT A CERTAIN TIME. HOW EVER THE 800 YEARS THE IBERIAN PENASULA (PORTUGAL+SPAIN) WAS PART OF MOROCCO BIT AFTER THE OMMAYADES OF BAGHDAD WERE OBLIGED TO BREAK OFF THE TIES WITH ( AL-MAGHREB ) AND LEAVE IT FOR IT'S OWN PEOPLE TO RULE FROM MOROCCO AND SOME TIMES FROM FES AND SOME TIMES FROM MARRAKECH....MY DEAR FELLOW THESE ARE ALL HISTORIC FACTS THAT ARE STANDING TILL TODAY BESIDES THE SOUL CAPTIVATING ARCHITECTURE THAT IS IDENTICAL IN ANDALUCIA TO THE MOROCCAN IMPERIAL CITIES ONES SUCH AS FES,MARRAKECH,MEKNES,TETOUANE,RABAT AND SO ON THESE FACTS THAT YOU DISPUTE ARE TAUGHT AT WORLD RENOUND UNIVERSITIES AND COULD BE READ FROM ANY RELEVENT SOURCES SUCH AS ENCYCLOPYDIA,WIKEPEDIA,HISTORY OF THE WORLD ETC... AND PLEASE LOOK BRIEFLY AT THIS VIDEO CLIP OF 5MN TO SEE WHAT I MEAN I M NOT TRYING TO ARGUE WITH SOME ONE FOR THE HEC OF IT I HAVE 1200 YEARS OF HISTORY AS BACK UP ARGUMENTS NOT VEIN FUNNY STATEMENT THAT SOME JUVENILES WOULD WITH OUT HESITATIONS THROW AT THIS FORUM.....GOD BLESS THE WISE MAN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2T7zRAk0Vk&feature=related;):wink2:

[Tounsi]

TUNISIA IS THE CENTER OF THE MEDITERANEAN WORLD....THAT'S THE FUNNIEST STATEMENT I VE READ IN THIS FORUM.:lol:
TO MY UNDERSTUNDING ABOUT HISTORIC FACTS OF CARTHAGE IS THAT AFTER THE BRAVE HANIBAL FAILED OF CAPTURING ROME & DESTROYING IT WHEN HE WAS PRETTY CLOSE OF DOING SO THE ROMANS CAME TO CARTHAGE SAT IT ALL ON FIRE AND THREW SALT BEHIND THEM, SO THAT LIFE WILL NEVER RISE THERE AGAIN AS THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR PRACTICES BACK THEN TO FINNISH OFF WITH THEIR ENEMY ONCE AND FOR ALL .CARTHAGE HAS BEEN UNHEARD OF SINCE THEN AND THE ROMANS TOOK OVER ...WHICH CONTRADICT TOTALY WHAT YOU SAY AS FOR YOU NOT SHARING MY HISTORIC FACTS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF MOROCCO NOT ONLY WE WERE THE ONLY NATION THAT MANAGED TO PUSH THE TURKS FROM INVADING US AFTER MANY DESPERATE ATTEMPTS UNLIKE THE OTHER PARTS OF NORTH AFRICA THAT SURROUNDERD TO THE OTTOMANS MOROCCO WAS THE ONLY AFRICAN COUNTRY THAT HAD BORDERS IN AFRICA AND EUROPE THAT WAS SPREAD FROM THE RIVER OF SENGAL AND OTHER PARTS OM MALI ( TIMBOUKTOU ) FROM SOUTH TILL THE BORDERS OF FRANCE AND SPAIN IN THE NORTH ALL MONOPOLIZED AND GOVERNED FROM THE MOORISH SEVILLA AND MARRAKECH AS MOROCCO WAS SPREAD TILL THE EAST BEYOND TUNISIA AND UP TO LIBYA AT A CERTAIN TIME. HOW EVER THE 800 YEARS THE IBERIAN PENASULA (PORTUGAL+SPAIN) WAS PART OF MOROCCO BIT AFTER THE OMMAYADES OF BAGHDAD WERE OBLIGED TO BREAK OFF THE TIES WITH ( AL-MAGHREB ) AND LEAVE IT FOR IT'S OWN PEOPLE TO RULE FROM MOROCCO AND SOME TIMES FROM FES AND SOME TIMES FROM MARRAKECH....MY DEAR FELLOW THESE ARE ALL HISTORIC FACTS THAT ARE STANDING TILL TODAY BESIDES THE SOUL CAPTIVATING ARCHITECTURE THAT IS IDENTICAL IN ANDALUCIA TO THE MOROCCAN IMPERIAL CITIES ONES SUCH AS FES,MARRAKECH,MEKNES,TETOUANE,RABAT AND SO ON THESE FACTS THAT YOU DISPUTE ARE TAUGHT AT WORLD RENOUND UNIVERSITIES AND COULD BE READ FROM ANY RELEVENT SOURCES SUCH AS ENCYCLOPYDIA,WIKEPEDIA,HISTORY OF THE WORLD ETC... AND PLEASE LOOK BRIEFLY AT THIS VIDEO CLIP OF 5MN TO SEE WHAT I MEAN I M NOT TRYING TO ARGUE WITH SOME ONE FOR THE HEC OF IT I HAVE 1200 YEARS OF HISTORY AS BACK UP ARGUMENTS NOT VEIN FUNNY STATEMENT THAT SOME JUVENILES WOULD WITH OUT HESITATIONS THROW AT THIS FORUM.....GOD BLESS THE WISE MAN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2T7zRAk0Vk&feature=related;):wink2:


First you should take a closer look to my my quoting ; I said Tunisia is IN the center of the mediterranean world wich is if you had any geographical knowledge, true ...

as far as your argumentation about Morrocco let s go back to the topic please ^^^^

[Shield]

First you should take a closer look to my my quoting ; I said Tunisia is IN the center of the mediterranean world wich is if you had any geographical knowledge, true ...

as far as your argumentation about Morrocco let s go back to the topic please ^^^^

Argumentation ?
You're too generous :lol:

[Tetwani]

Argumentation ?
You're too generous :lol:

Where are you from Shield?

[Shield]

Where are you from Shield?

Why is everyone asking me this question ?
France.

[Black Mamba]

Je ne suis pas d'accord, je crois que les Algériens et les Tunisiens sont plus proches parce qu'ils ont combattues les Français pratiquement ensemble.

Mais dans l'ensemble les Algériens, les Marocains et les Tunisiens se sentent bien dans le pays de l'autre :)

[Black Mamba]

What a load of gibberish.

Go back to school and pay attention to your geography and History classes, you'd amazed at how much stuff you missed.

[Black Mamba]

TUNISIA IS THE CENTER OF THE MEDITERANEAN WORLD....THAT'S THE FUNNIEST STATEMENT I VE READ IN THIS FORUM.:lol:
TO MY UNDERSTUNDING ABOUT HISTORIC FACTS OF CARTHAGE IS THAT AFTER THE BRAVE HANIBAL FAILED OF CAPTURING ROME & DESTROYING IT WHEN HE WAS PRETTY CLOSE OF DOING SO THE ROMANS CAME TO CARTHAGE SAT IT ALL ON FIRE AND THREW SALT BEHIND THEM, SO THAT LIFE WILL NEVER RISE THERE AGAIN AS THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR PRACTICES BACK THEN TO FINNISH OFF WITH THEIR ENEMY ONCE AND FOR ALL .CARTHAGE HAS BEEN UNHEARD OF SINCE THEN AND THE ROMANS TOOK OVER ...WHICH CONTRADICT TOTALY WHAT YOU SAY AS FOR YOU NOT SHARING MY HISTORIC FACTS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF MOROCCO NOT ONLY WE WERE THE ONLY NATION THAT MANAGED TO PUSH THE TURKS FROM INVADING US AFTER MANY DESPERATE ATTEMPTS UNLIKE THE OTHER PARTS OF NORTH AFRICA THAT SURROUNDERD TO THE OTTOMANS MOROCCO WAS THE ONLY AFRICAN COUNTRY THAT HAD BORDERS IN AFRICA AND EUROPE THAT WAS SPREAD FROM THE RIVER OF SENGAL AND OTHER PARTS OM MALI ( TIMBOUKTOU ) FROM SOUTH TILL THE BORDERS OF FRANCE AND SPAIN IN THE NORTH ALL MONOPOLIZED AND GOVERNED FROM THE MOORISH SEVILLA AND MARRAKECH AS MOROCCO WAS SPREAD TILL THE EAST BEYOND TUNISIA AND UP TO LIBYA AT A CERTAIN TIME. HOW EVER THE 800 YEARS THE IBERIAN PENASULA (PORTUGAL+SPAIN) WAS PART OF MOROCCO BIT AFTER THE OMMAYADES OF BAGHDAD WERE OBLIGED TO BREAK OFF THE TIES WITH ( AL-MAGHREB ) AND LEAVE IT FOR IT'S OWN PEOPLE TO RULE FROM MOROCCO AND SOME TIMES FROM FES AND SOME TIMES FROM MARRAKECH....MY DEAR FELLOW THESE ARE ALL HISTORIC FACTS THAT ARE STANDING TILL TODAY BESIDES THE SOUL CAPTIVATING ARCHITECTURE THAT IS IDENTICAL IN ANDALUCIA TO THE MOROCCAN IMPERIAL CITIES ONES SUCH AS FES,MARRAKECH,MEKNES,TETOUANE,RABAT AND SO ON THESE FACTS THAT YOU DISPUTE ARE TAUGHT AT WORLD RENOUND UNIVERSITIES AND COULD BE READ FROM ANY RELEVENT SOURCES SUCH AS ENCYCLOPYDIA,WIKEPEDIA,HISTORY OF THE WORLD ETC... AND PLEASE LOOK BRIEFLY AT THIS VIDEO CLIP OF 5MN TO SEE WHAT I MEAN I M NOT TRYING TO ARGUE WITH SOME ONE FOR THE HEC OF IT I HAVE 1200 YEARS OF HISTORY AS BACK UP ARGUMENTS NOT VEIN FUNNY STATEMENT THAT SOME JUVENILES WOULD WITH OUT HESITATIONS THROW AT THIS FORUM.....GOD BLESS THE WISE MAN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2T7zRAk0Vk&feature=related;):wink2:

What a load of gibberish.

Go back to school and pay attention to your geography and History classes, you'd be amazed at how much stuff you missed.