nadaanan ko yan kahapon..harap ng Las Palmas, dba?

nope... hmmmm sa harap ng manang terrys~ ^-^v

ITS QUITE ERRONEOUS TO SAY SO...
Mana is use both by the Zamboangueño and Caviteño... i actuali heard it from my visabuelo(great grandparent) speak to me that way....sometimes it sounds like as "m'na" while "maga" is pronounce as "maGa" but then the new generation pronounce it as "maÑga"

maga was used during the 1900's but mana exist since 1700's...
los only until 1600's
mana 1700's - late 1900's
maga late 1900's..

but stil, those words are stil using....

and definitely Zamboangaueño is the most develop Chavacano among the five-varieties! its vocabulary gradually increases... thats the truth...
before we only used "de" but now we use alredi "di" and its obviously an Italian Word..and zamboangueño language still evolving.. more and more or new words still adding to our vocabulary...compared to other variety! thats how pidgin becomes a creole and then a full pledge language! come to think our language has been living for alomst 371yrs. since 1635...


why linguist might say that, its because portuguese is very close to castillan...
Lexicon(vocabulary) definitely 70% castillan... but today it went down to 64%...
coz lots of words were lose.... because zamboangueño hablantes rarely used the word(s).

pls read in wikipedia... we wrote there an article bwt the six chavacano varieties.

lastly, Zamboangueño and or Chavacano is really a creollo castillano.. history can prove it! zamboanga was the last city, occupied by the these castillano people....



ahhhhhh............ ancina gle.. co0L~

buenas noches ali na todo taki ara....
ketal kosa el noticia ali?:)

Mega Fishing allots P500M for 2nd sardine manufacturing plant

By Marianne V. Go
Tuesday, March 4, 2008

Mega Fishing Corp., the maker of Mega Sardines, is investing an additional P500 million to put up a second plant in Zamboanga to expand its production capacity, meet increasing export demand for its products and diversify to other fish products.

This was learned from Michelle Tiu Lim Chan, vice president for export of Mega Fishing, who attended the recently concluded Dubai Gulfood Exhibition in Dubai, United Arab Emirates.

According to Chan, since it entered the market six years ago, Mega Sardines’ domestic growth has been remarkable. It is now among the top four leading sardines brands along with Ligo, Youngstown and 555.

Chan said Mega Fishing has been in the fishing business for the past 35 years and supplies about 85 percent of the fish for sardine manufacturing.

It used to do toll manufacturing for other brands, but six years ago the company decided to launch its own brand.

According to Chan, the company’s sales has reached P1 billion, 90 percent of which comes from the domestic market.

Mega Fishing has also decided to tap the export market where it now see’s a potential higher growth for the brand. Last year, Chan said its exports amounted to around P100 million.

In this year’s Dubai Gulfood Exhibit, Chan said the company was able to book sales of nearly $650 million.

Chan said Mega Fishing’s participation in various international trade exhibition has introduced the Mega Sardines to a much wider market reaching Europe, Central America and Africa.

To meet the increasing domestic and export demand, Chan said a second plant is being built which would double the firm’s existing output from 500,000 cans a day to almost one million cans by the end of this year.

Since sardines is seasonal, Chan said they plan to diversify to mackerel canning during the off-season.

Source: http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Business&p=49&type=2&sec=27

buenas noches winlady ya na todo....

yan lampas ya yo na 30... ahaha

buenas noches winlady ya na todo....

yan lampas ya yo na 30... ahaha

^^ Hala nuh, amazing, hehehe ur a man of ur word, anywayz where is zoroe nuay man yo mira su mga interesting post recently baka busy gayud hehehehe :lol:

Mega Fishing allots P500M for 2nd sardine manufacturing plant

By Marianne V. Go
Tuesday, March 4, 2008

Mega Fishing Corp., the maker of Mega Sardines, is investing an additional P500 million to put up a second plant in Zamboanga to expand its production capacity, meet increasing export demand for its products and diversify to other fish products.

This was learned from Michelle Tiu Lim Chan, vice president for export of Mega Fishing, who attended the recently concluded Dubai Gulfood Exhibition in Dubai, United Arab Emirates.

According to Chan, since it entered the market six years ago, Mega Sardines’ domestic growth has been remarkable. It is now among the top four leading sardines brands along with Ligo, Youngstown and 555.

Chan said Mega Fishing has been in the fishing business for the past 35 years and supplies about 85 percent of the fish for sardine manufacturing.

It used to do toll manufacturing for other brands, but six years ago the company decided to launch its own brand.

According to Chan, the company’s sales has reached P1 billion, 90 percent of which comes from the domestic market.

Mega Fishing has also decided to tap the export market where it now see’s a potential higher growth for the brand. Last year, Chan said its exports amounted to around P100 million.

In this year’s Dubai Gulfood Exhibit, Chan said the company was able to book sales of nearly $650 million.

Chan said Mega Fishing’s participation in various international trade exhibition has introduced the Mega Sardines to a much wider market reaching Europe, Central America and Africa.

To meet the increasing domestic and export demand, Chan said a second plant is being built which would double the firm’s existing output from 500,000 cans a day to almost one million cans by the end of this year.

Since sardines is seasonal, Chan said they plan to diversify to mackerel canning during the off-season.

Source: http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Business&p=49&type=2&sec=27

^^ THIS IS GOOD NEWS, IT ONLY MEANS MORE JOBS FOR THE LOCALS.
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

nope... hmmmm sa harap ng manang terrys~ ^-^v

^^ Kuanto Manang Terry tiene ali? deba yan spread out yan se ali as what ive heard?

nadaanan ko yan kahapon..harap ng Las Palmas, dba?

^^ hey zoroe where are u? were ka naman inilagay ni lord?:nuts:

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Ya anda Kme ayer man hike pra na Serenity Falls... the water was so0 cold and the rocks were so0 big... we also went rock climbing with bare fo0t... i realized that my our toes is usefull when climbing a rock.. lolz....
jumping from rock to rock... ahahaha prang Prince of Persia...

im in agony with my muscle pain... almost all my muscles is painfull.
i feel pain everytime i move. XD

senxa na panget yung cam ko.. ahahaha

^^ pensaba iyo ya seka ya se serenity falls lols:lol:

Animo & Acer_Cyle: I guess i still need alot of readings about our language to convince myself que e um crioulo espanhol....

Animo: i didnt knew u speak portuguese to0... talented..... m(-_-)m "bow"
o senhor fala portugues muito bem... bravo~



Estou cansado.. XD

Jajaja, not really. I used to hangout with other Spaniards and "troll" around with the Portuguese forumers who are so anti-Spanish in the European fora. :lol: I am sure if they see the post that you wrote about them being part of Spain before they would surely wage war with it! :D

Anyway, i'll try to help you guys later when I have time! :)

iQue tenga un buen día!

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THE CITY GOVERNMENT IS CONVERTING THIS BOG LAKE
INTO AN ECO TOURISM SPOT

GOOD AM ZAMBO PIPS:cheers:

Buenos Dias mi mana Compañeros(as)!
Vosotros que tal?
ojala vosotros esta muy bien...

ya desayuna vosotros en denantes aga?

entonces, ahora almuerzo, no tambien vosotros olvida almorza! malo ta pasa hambre cay ta tene ulcer...

y el ensiguidas hora de comida, Cena!

Vaya con Adios a todos ustedes!
mi paz por otros hay llega na cada y cual persona:)

Buenos Dias!

este un favor para con ellos interesado. . .:)

yo ta aplegi con vosotros para suporta el de nuestro mana local canciones en zaboangueño, tambien el mana banda que ta produci mana canciones solamente para con nosotros Zamboangueño Hablantes y por aquellos que enteresado...

como:
Comic Relief
One Tribe
Zigzag (Chavacano Raza)
Etc...

vuestro ayuda es necesita. . .

Gracias a todos ustedes!:)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/zam/2008/03/05/article_248844_03-05-2008.jpg

THE CITY GOVERNMENT IS CONVERTING THIS BOG LAKE
INTO AN ECO TOURISM SPOT

GOOD AM ZAMBO PIPS:cheers:


may i know su locacion y mas detalles acerca con ese proposal?
Gracias amigo!:banana:

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STREET SCENE LANG
NEAR WESTERN MINDANAO STATE U

fotos en storm:)

dats Normal Road..

Buenas Tardes Zoroe
que tal tu?
this was your msg. at Foro Chavacano...

"we have a debate yesterday with a motion, This House regrets the making of Chavacano as the lingua franca of Zamboanga..we are in the opossition...Yehey we won..

i would like to solicit pieces of additional info..as with this topic.."

may i know the details of it?jejejejejeje
Gracias....

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ya hace yo combinado todos retratos....
mi obra...

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US Submarine, Special Warfare Support Vessel In South RP (http://zamboangajournal.blogspot.com/2007_12_01_archive.html)

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SSV C-Champion at sea

ZAMBOANGA CITY, Philippines (Mindanao Examiner / Mar. 04, 2008) - The 220-feet SSV C-Champion is visiting Zamboanga City in southern Philippines.

The US military in Zamboanga City has invited local journalists for the tour of the SSV C-Champion, one of five Submarine and Special Warfare Support Vessels that are part of the 30 ships in Military Sealift Command's Special Mission Ships Program.

The US military did not give details about the SSV C-Champion, but the Military Sealift Command's Special Mission Program controls at least 30 ships that provide operating platforms and services for unique US military and federal government missions. Oceanographic and hydrographic surveys, underwater surveillance, missile flight data collection and tracking, acoustic surveys and submarine support are just a few of the specialized services this program supports.

Japanese media members have spotted the ship off the Sulu Archipelago last week and reported seeing many Americans on board.

Special mission ships work for several different US Navy customers, including the Naval Sea Systems Command and the Oceanographer of the Navy.

Both civil service and contractor-employed mariners operate the special mission vessels. Technical work, survey operations and communications are conducted by embarked military personnel, civilian scientists and related technicians.

The SSV C-Champion is manned by 14 crew members and 30 personnel.

Hi guys, may I remind you that shouting (posting in all caps) and text lingo is not allowed in the forums. Thanks.

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new building is rising infron baliwasan central school =)

sa cebu may i store na atleast may dealer na ng i gadgets d2 sa zambo hehehe amazing zamboanga hahahaha

Isn't IStore the official retail counterpart of Apple or is it just another of those dealers?

The Dawning of A New Conscience: They Taketh… Then They Giveth
An observation of human behavior – Past vs. Present
By: Zamboanga.com Editorial – May 1, 2006

http://www.zamboanga.com/news/images/Z-Editor_Fort_SOUTHCOM_sat-view1.jpg (http://www.zamboanga.com/news/images/Z-Editor_Fort_SOUTHCOM_sat-view2.jpg)The SOUTHCOM, Southern Command, of The Philippine Military, is one of the largest military bases (a fort – Fort SOUTHCOM) in the Philippines and a mandatory endeavor for many past and present Generals, along with their cohorts. The feat of their celebratory accomplishment is a reflection of the many forsaken feet that were mourned in sublime consequence of FortSOUTHCOM’s directive.

It must not be forgotten that as FortSOUTHCOM celebrates its 30th year of existence, the rule that created it is the very same principle that eliminated the people’s Writ of Habeas Corpus – in military jargon: Martial Law!

It is clearly seen as intentional caution that Fort SOUTHCOM is playing their momentous occasion with subdued civic events aimed at helping the public, the Zamboangueños, rather than playing their accustomed soldiering. FortSOUTHCOM is embarking on a commendable blood-giving drive to help local blood banks and other miscellaneous medical efforts.

It is poignantly ironic that the noble action of the present-day soldiers, in giving their blood to the locals now, is the complete opposite of what the vampire goons of Marcos’ militia did to the people then in taking their innocent blood away from them. Thousands died, murdered, and then others were never to be heard or seen from again. This was the reign of terror that Dictator Marcos enforced upon the Filipinos, with his blood-thirsty militia leading the way. There was no Al-Qaeda then, but Ferdinand Marcos was the historical Bin-Laden of the Philippines. The Marcos government’s martial war of terror against their own people miniaturizes the scale and effect Marcos’ counterpart – Bin Laden – has on the Americans’ own experience in their current “war of terror,” a hundred times over.

They taketh blood, then… and they giveth blood, now.

Dictator Marcos’ martial law and its reign of terror will forever be the foundation that was laid in FortSOUTHCOM.

How that evil foundation is clad in FortSOUTHCOM’s future evolution is a hope Zamboangueños have in the ongoing presence of American soldiers in their beloved city. The Americans are returning after decades of absence, bringing along with them their own colorful history of destruction and construction in Zamboanga after their purchase of the Philippines from the Spaniards, and after World War II Japan’s invasion of the Philippines, providing critical military guidance and an historical awareness of civic-mindedness to their counterparts from FortSOUTHCOM.

FortSOUTHCOM’s history is reminiscent of what the Americans did to the Filipinos after they purchased the islands from the Spaniards in 1898 for a mere $20,000,000.00. Thousands, hundreds of thousands, of Filipinos were killed by American soldiers before the extent of their annihilation was reported back to the mainland wherein horrified American citizens, government officials, and the national press took action to stop the bloody military rampage.


"Kill every one over ten." – U.S. General Jacob H. Smith
Criminals Because They Were Born Ten Years Before We Took the Philippines.
Editorial cartoon from the New York Evening Journal,May 5, 1902.

United States General Jack Smith promised to turn the Philippines into a "howling wilderness" where most casualties were civilians. General Smith defined the foe as any male or female "ten years and up," and told his soldiers: "I want no prisoners. I wish you to kill and burn; the more you kill and burn, the better it will please me."


After it was all said and done by 1911, there were over 200,000 Filipinos murdered (government cost: under $100.00 each person) and General Smith was very pleased. The American public, however, was not and they eliminated the bloody General Smith and installed a number of reformist Generals/Governors who initiated a nation-building program that became the United States’ first such human-scale program in its history and predicated all future nation-building programs it has ever endeavored to tackle. The Philippine Commonwealth that arose, and the country it became, is to this day one of the United States’ most loyal democratic allies in critical Asia and the world.

Time does heal wounds, accordingly.

The Americans are back in Zamboanga and their representatives, the ones whom the locals endearingly call “Joe,” as in G.I. Joe of WWII vintage who liberated them from Japanese occupation, are embarking on another nation-building program for a nation that has long been neglected and abused, but stubbornly refuses to be defeated – the “nation” called Mindanao. American General/Governor John “Blackjack” Pershing is credited for laying down the groundwork for developing Mindanao and Sulu from his headquarters in Zamboanga, the Capital of the old Moro Province he created.

General Pershing won the hearts and loyalty of the Zamboangueños, and his legacy is still strongly evident today in the language the Chavacanos of Zamboanga are very well-versed in, more expertly than any city of its size in the country - English. It is a symbol of the American General’s Normal School (http://www.zamboanga.com/news/normal_school.htm) program which emphasized education as part of the emancipation process for the local citizenry. Numerous American teachers came to educate, and countless more local teachers were sent to the U.S. to learn how to become teachers, then returned to continue their work in the city’s public Normal Schools. The “Normal School” name is long gone but its institutions of learning strongly prevail. Although a few of General Pershing’s physical civic projects are still around and touted as tourist destinations, his lasting legacy is quickly experienced as the first welcome sign any foreign, international or national, visitor hears from any Zamboangueño, regardless of their educational level, in their command of the English language – the American English!

Chavacano is still the lingua-franca of Zamboanga City, but English is the language of education and business. The Chavacano language is a living relic of the city’s over 300 years of Spanish influence, enamored by the Zamboangueños because it is their founding identity. It harkens an enlightened romantic past that has guided its peaceful but independent people. Zamboanga can be considered the Babylon of the Philippines with its myriad of exotic languages that proliferate in business and people’s homes. It is a melting pot of civilization and religion, and is considered the most exotic place in the Philippines. It’s like stepping into a time warp.

Thirty years is a long time to be established anywhere. If that anywhere happens to be in Zamboanga City, “The City of Flowers,” it lends an extra special significance to this ancient place that measures its own sense of time by centuries – over three.

FortPilar (http://www.zamboanga.com/fun_in_the_sun/Fort_Pilar1.htm) has been around for a mere 371 years and FortSOUTHCOM for an historical 30 years. They were both founded on military conquest, yet the people whom they intended to conquer have never been conquered. Fort Pilar evolved to become the pillar of strength and conscience of the Zamboangueños and their fellow brethren beyond. There’s hope that Fort SOUTHCOM will eventually be led in that same evolutionary path.

We want to thank the American Soldiers again, for coming back to visit your old friends and brothers, the Zamboangueños, and for teaching and helping the residents of a foreign fort that was erected to strike at the heart of the Southern “resistance” of the Philippines, almost mimicking the similar exploits of a local institution – Fort Pilar – except theirs is called: Fort SOUTHCOM. Their convergence will signify the tenacity of the industrious peace-loving people of an ancient place borne on a bed of flowers, affectionately called: Zamboanga. Together, our concerted effort as equals can help unify neighbors and a people.

You don’t win by taking blood from the people. You win by giving blood back to the people you wronged, and your conscience along with it. It is painful to remember the past, but it is inspiring to see movement towards a better future for everyone. Peace be with us all.

ooops... wromh foro..... admin&mode pls bura este..gracias!

enlarging photo on @Acer_Cyle's post...

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Cong. Risa Hontiveros Baraquel is in zambo now..she delivered her lecture on Political Science students of WMSU kanina at 9am..we had lunch together at Hai San..she's such a very nice person.

Buenas Tardes Zoroe
que tal tu?
this was your msg. at Foro Chavacano...

"we have a debate yesterday with a motion, This House regrets the making of Chavacano as the lingua franca of Zamboanga..we are in the opossition...Yehey we won..

i would like to solicit pieces of additional info..as with this topic.."

may i know the details of it?jejejejejeje
Gracias....


we won the debate not because of substance but by technicalities..by d way, our main team line is this: Zamboanga is a melting pot of ethnicities and Tausugs and Bisayas combined do have larger number compared to Chavacanos...

we won the debate not because of substance but by technicalities..by d way, our main team line is this: Zamboanga is a melting pot of ethnicities and Tausugs and Bisayas combined do have larger number compared to Chavacanos...


hala... i could'nt comprehen.... pls explain further...thanks!
wats exactly the topic ol about? if Zamboanga City failed to make Zamboangueño (Chavacano de Zamobanga) as the Lingua Franca?

Gracias GearX por tu esfuerzo...:banana:

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Sacando desde na aire por satlelite camara

This is a picture of Southway Square photographed and edited by yours truly, MBelleza:
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Actually, it may be less than 20,000 square meters or less than one hectare. I think the malls of Zamboanga are usually measured about 15,000-30,000 sq. meters or 1-2 hectares.

By the way, Gaisanos already scouted for a lot to put up a mall, maybe in the west coast. I wonder kung industrial center ng R-IX ang Zamboanga pati government center ang Pagadian, ano ba talaga ang commercial center ng R-IX? I know na kahit nasa Pagadian ang regional offices, financial capital pa rin ang Zamboanga.

Ang General Santos City is actually not the regional center of R-XII, but its economy and commercial development is strong. So is Naga City in Bicol Region (which Legaspi is its regional center), Olongapo, Angeles, Dagupan in Ilocos Region (which San Fernando, La Union is the regional capital) when it comes in playing roles of commercial development.

So tell me, what will be Zamboanga's role in R-IX?

Here in this thread, we need a debate regarding Zamboanga's role in economic development.

We pray na sana magkakaroon ng progress ang Zamboanga.

This is a picture of Southway Square photographed and edited by yours truly, MBelleza:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2249/2315585285_c44635235d_o.jpg
Actually, it may be less than 20,000 square meters or less than one hectare. I think the malls of Zamboanga are usually measured about 15,000-30,000 sq. meters or 1-2 hectares.

By the way, Gaisanos already scouted for a lot to put up a mall, maybe in the west coast. I wonder kung industrial center ng R-IX ang Zamboanga pati government center ang Pagadian, ano ba talaga ang commercial center ng R-IX? I know na kahit nasa Pagadian ang regional offices, financial capital pa rin ang Zamboanga.

Ang General Santos City is actually not the regional center of R-XII, but its economy and commercial development is strong. So is Naga City in Bicol Region (which Legaspi is its regional center), Olongapo, Angeles, Dagupan in Ilocos Region (which San Fernando, La Union is the regional capital) when it comes in playing roles of commercial development.

So tell me, what will be Zamboanga's role in R-IX?

Here in this thread, we need a debate regarding Zamboanga's role in economic development.

We pray na sana magkakaroon ng progress ang Zamboanga.

actually 10,000sqm is 1 hectare :)

with regards to development and being the regional center..does it matter? for me ang nakikita ko lang problem (aside from pride) is the impracticality of it since malaki ang population ng zamboanga compared to pagadian, parang impractical naman na ang mga tga zamboanga ang pumunta ng pagadian para mag transact ng business or kung ano man na transaction na malilipat sa pagadian

or baka mas accessible ang pagadian to the rest of the region? say the other towns? how far is pagadian from zamboanga city ba?

;18893993']actually 10,000sqm is 1 hectare :)

with regards to development and being the regional center..does it matter? for me ang nakikita ko lang problem (aside from pride) is the impracticality of it since malaki ang population ng zamboanga compared to pagadian, parang impractical naman na ang mga tga zamboanga ang pumunta ng pagadian para mag transact ng business or kung ano man na transaction na malilipat sa pagadian

or baka mas accessible ang pagadian to the rest of the region? say the other towns? how far is pagadian from zamboanga city ba?

Whats the role?

muchas que puede habla....
- Centro de Commercial
- Centro de Financial
- Centro de las oficinas regional (quiere que no quiere, se el verdad)
- Centro de Industrial
- Centro de Educacion
- Centro de la Puesto del Archdioceso
- Centro de Patrimonio
- Centro de Medical Cura
- Centro de las Transportaciones Regional (Aire y Mar)
- Centro de Comunicacion
- Centro del Informacion de Tecnologia


i dont think Pagadian is the center...Still Ciudad de Zamboanga is the Cemter of all! by land & by Air... it is very easy for those from basilan to transact in region-9.

but then, since z.c. no longer the regional center. why is it all the deportees still throwing in the city? hende ba talla ya gane el departamento que ta asisti con esos mana deportados? era alla ya se todo acaba buta..o larga o lleva. y no aqui na Ciudad! cay el presupuesto del ciudad es solamente para de la Ciudad de Zamboanga ta guinda con estos mana deportados entonces, el presupuesto para de zamboanga ta falta ya lang... y por otros informaciones, nunca el gobierno nacional ya y ta ayuda con ciudad de zambo. desde antes! el Ciudad de zamboanga solamente ta vive con sus mismo entrada de presupuesto(local income)... tambien, si sabe vosotros que el c.z. amo el tiene con todo algo entrada de presupuesto na entero Region-9... vosotros era ta desea el ciudad PARA billiones.. pero el ciudad de pagadian ni no puede gane mentene el 1million? solamente hasta 850,00 desde tres años que ya pasa...

lstly, c.z. ever since is an isolated city.... doesnt interact with her neighboring provinces...

and if there are thos who dont know, Ciudad de Zamboanga has always the highest annual incone in the entire mindanao and also one of the city in the phil's that has a highest income! and compare to other cities in Mindanao, the cash-to-cash transactions is only in z.c while in CDO and Davao is Cheque-to-Cheque transactions only..
Ciudad de Zamboanga has the most numbers of Banks and its branches throought the city of Zamboanga. see!no surprise Zamboanga City rich!

i myself, not infavor constructing an SM,Gaisano..etc... why? it kills the uniqueness of Z.C. maybe this why Nuestro OFiciales Local doesnt always infavor.. maybe they are looking for an investor that will bring progress together with its unique identity...being Zamboanga City.

;18893993']actually 10,000sqm is 1 hectare :)

with regards to development and being the regional center..does it matter? for me ang nakikita ko lang problem (aside from pride) is the impracticality of it since malaki ang population ng zamboanga compared to pagadian, parang impractical naman na ang mga tga zamboanga ang pumunta ng pagadian para mag transact ng business or kung ano man na transaction na malilipat sa pagadian

or baka mas accessible ang pagadian to the rest of the region? say the other towns? how far is pagadian from zamboanga city ba?

i think the main argument on that is accessibility..although, mas malaki ang population ng zamboanga sa Pagadian and its impractical for Zamboangaueños to transact businesses in Pagadian..still the provinces that surrounds Pagadian do have larger population..

If Pagadian is the regional center, it easier for the people of Dipolog, Dapitan, Eastern and Central part of Zanorte, the whole province of Zamboanga del Sur and the eastern provinces of Zamboanga Sibugay to access because it has direct connection to the city.

While f its Zamboanga, it would be easier for the people from Isabela City, Western part of Zanorte (Baliguian, Siocon, Sirawai, Sibuco, Liloy, Labason, Gutalac, Tampilisan, Kalawit) and the western part of Zamboanga Sibugay (Ipil, Titay, Naga, R.T. Lim and Tungawan)...

Zamboanga City by d way is more or less 300 kilometers from Zamboanga (8 hours travel by bus)

but still Zamboanga is undisputedly the regional center in trms of commerce and economic activity because of its infras that is capable of handling large volume of trades..

Pagadian, honestly is not yet prepared to become the regional center because it lacks the facilities that will cater to the activities being a regional center..

if they really mean "CENTER" i prefer "IPIL"

see map and we'll know which is more accessible?

en mi opinion, ese es un Decision de politica por el cambio del mana Oficina Regional a Pagadian!

What made the government decide to transfer regional center to Pagadian ba in the first place? :cheers:

What made the government decide to transfer regional center to Pagadian ba in the first place? :cheers:


^^my guess is more of politics again as usual:ohno:

This is a picture of Southway Square photographed and edited by yours truly, MBelleza:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2249/2315585285_c44635235d_o.jpg
Actually, it may be less than 20,000 square meters or less than one hectare. I think the malls of Zamboanga are usually measured about 15,000-30,000 sq. meters or 1-2 hectares.

By the way, Gaisanos already scouted for a lot to put up a mall, maybe in the west coast. I wonder kung industrial center ng R-IX ang Zamboanga pati government center ang Pagadian, ano ba talaga ang commercial center ng R-IX? I know na kahit nasa Pagadian ang regional offices, financial capital pa rin ang Zamboanga.

Ang General Santos City is actually not the regional center of R-XII, but its economy and commercial development is strong. So is Naga City in Bicol Region (which Legaspi is its regional center), Olongapo, Angeles, Dagupan in Ilocos Region (which San Fernando, La Union is the regional capital) when it comes in playing roles of commercial development.

So tell me, what will be Zamboanga's role in R-IX?

Here in this thread, we need a debate regarding Zamboanga's role in economic development.

We pray na sana magkakaroon ng progress ang Zamboanga.

^^lets not use the term debate mbell hehehehehe

if they really mean "CENTER" i prefer "IPIL"

see map and we'll know which is more accessible?

en mi opinion, ese es un Decision de politica por el cambio del mana Oficina Regional a Pagadian!

^^ ipil would be more appropriate atleast it will give a push in the economic progress of the sibugay area.....:)

What made the government decide to transfer regional center to Pagadian ba in the first place? :cheers:

actually there was already a PD during past past.... president, implementing the PD to transfer Regional Offices to Zamboanga del Sur but during Cory Aquino(not quite sure if Cory) it has been cancelled... to some reasons that Zamboanga de Sur is not Prepared, Strategically Not the best place, Financially unstabled..and sort of historically... etc!

First, During Gloria's terms Ciudad de Zamboanga is already an opposition City... not facts but its True! whoever anyway might feel akward if you knew that you only got a 10%Votes in city of Zamboanga?imagine!

Second, The truth is finally exposed by us - PGMA is forced to make HER/Their decision!
Malacañang steals IRA money from Zamboanga City for past 20 years and gives it to Zambo del Sur, and then cahoots with them to transfer Regional Office HQ from Zamboanga City to Pagadian City,Zambo del Sur courtesy of PGMA&Co. The Zamboanga City IRA funds worth over 500 million pesos were given to ZdelSur to help them qualify to accept PGMA&Co.'s hatred of ZC and the Zamboangueños. Not to worry... Zamboangueños are far above PGMA&Co.'s hatred towards them, but they are not stupid, eh Forrest! We shall overcome, as we have always done! (see www.Zamboanga.Com ]

Third, Nosotros Zamboangueños are always on the side as opposition against her administracion. because "No hay rabo el Chonggo na ciudad de Zamboanga" masque tu ya dale ya dinero! Principio y consencia el bala del mana Zamboangueño!

Fourth, wether they will say its strategic purpose, accessibility and etc.. still, its "Political"

i dont wanna talk anymore because everything will fall to politics.....
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and if there are thos who dont know, Ciudad de Zamboanga has always the highest annual incone in the entire mindanao and also one of the city in the phil's that has a highest income! and compare to other cities in Mindanao, the cash-to-cash transactions is only in z.c while in CDO and Davao is Cheque-to-Cheque transactions only..
Ciudad de Zamboanga has the most numbers of Banks and its branches throought the city of Zamboanga. see!no surprise Zamboanga City rich!
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what stats are we talking about here?

as far as revenues are concerned, davao earned P2.98 billion (http://durianpost.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/mindanao-billionaire-city-in-all-time-high-revenue-collection/) in revenue in 2007

and according to this blog (http://durianpost.wordpress.com/2007/11/18/davao-city-is-mindanaos-biggest-revenue-earner/), davao is mindanao's biggest revenue earner

how much did zamboanga earn ba in 2007?

about the cash to cash transactions, ano po significance nun? and care to show us the source for this? is that cash to cash thing more imporant than this?

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=business03_july18_2006

Outside Metro Manila, Cebu recorded the largest bank deposits of P134.225 billion or 4.5 percent of the total.

Laguna followed with P63.953 billion;
Cavite, P49.142 billion;
Pampanga, P49.016 billion;
Davao del Sur, P48.928 billion;
Negros Occidental, P37.991 billion;
Batangas, P36.462 billion;
Iloilo, P34.999 billion; Bulacan, P33.170 billion,
Pangasinan, P31.296 billion;
Rizal, P31.127 billion.

pero according to this, nasa top 10 richest cities naman ang zamboanga (pero hinahanap ko pa ang source nito)

http://www.asiapacifictraveltips.com/philippines-2/q-2585404.html

Q: As of 2006-2007? I just wanna know. Tnx.

A: 1. Quezon City 2. Manila City 3. Caloocan City 4. Davao City 5. Cebu City 6. Zamboanga City 7. Pasig City 8. Valenzuela City 9. cagayan de oro City 10. makati City **

;18913544']what stats are we talking about here?

as far as revenues are concerned, davao earned P2.98 billion (http://durianpost.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/mindanao-billionaire-city-in-all-time-high-revenue-collection/) in revenue in 2007

and according to this blog (http://durianpost.wordpress.com/2007/11/18/davao-city-is-mindanaos-biggest-revenue-earner/), davao is mindanao's biggest revenue earner

how much did zamboanga earn ba in 2007?

about the cash to cash transactions, ano po significance nun? and care to show us the source for this? is that cash to cash thing more imporant than this?

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=business03_july18_2006



pero according to this, nasa top 10 richest cities naman ang zamboanga (pero hinahanap ko pa ang source nito)

http://www.asiapacifictraveltips.com/philippines-2/q-2585404.html

i lost the file!

but i know it its in billion...
zamboanga City is a dependent city on era and or from city tax collection!

hope i can find it..

i think ive seen that file you were referring to

dun sa report na yun, davao still had the biggest income in mindanao but zamboanga is among the top even beating cebu not because of the income but because it had fewer expenditures

kumbaga, konti lang ginagastos ng zamboanga from its income hence malaki ang savings nila versus the other cities

but regarding zamboanga being among the "billionaire" cities, that i have to see pa (im not sure if it is or its not) one thing im sure though is that davao has the biggest income among cities in mindanao

;18919044']i think ive seen that file you were referring to

dun sa report na yun, davao still had the biggest income in mindanao but zamboanga is among the top even beating cebu not because of the income but because it had fewer expenditures

kumbaga, konti lang ginagastos ng zamboanga from its income hence malaki ang savings nila versus the other cities

but regarding zamboanga being among the "billionaire" cities, that i have to see pa (im not sure if it is or its not) one thing im sure though is that davao has the biggest income among cities in mindanao

Paano kaya yun @Waway sa gov't accounting kasi kailangan zero-zero ang balance sa yearend... kaya yung ibang LGU's yung may malalaking mga savings ginagawang bunos sa mga officials and employees. :)

im not sure kuya ibex. basta parang nabasa ko yun somewhere, gino google ko nga pero di ko makita basta isa ang zamboanga sa mataas ang net income

cebu on the other hand mataas ang gross income pero mababa ang net income kasi malaki ang gastos (sa SRP ata)

but i think what matters more is the gross income since dun naman nakikita ang totoong kinikita ng lugar, and high expenditures could be a sign that the city is investing in itself anyway thru services etc :)

;18919168']im not sure kuya ibex. basta parang nabasa ko yun somewhere, gino google ko nga pero di ko makita basta isa ang zamboanga sa mataas ang net income

cebu on the other hand mataas ang gross income pero mababa ang net income kasi malaki ang gastos (sa SRP ata)

but i think what matters more is the gross income since dun naman nakikita ang totoong kinikita ng lugar, and high expenditures could be a sign that the city is investing in itself anyway thru services etc :)

Ok gotcha @Waway...:cheers:

sayang nga eh di ko na makita ang article, basta parang table yun ng mga gross income, expenses and net income ng bawat city sa philippines :) ginoogle ko pero di ko makita :(

;18919257']sayang nga eh di ko na makita ang article, basta parang table yun ng mga gross income, expenses and net income ng bawat city sa philippines :) ginoogle ko pero di ko makita :(

Parang nakita ko rin yun somewhere before nung kasagsagan ng discussion dito sa SSC bout that topic. May memory lapse na yata. :)

yeah dito sa SSC ko rin yun nakita basta natatandaan ko ang zamboanga highlight nun is it is among the top cities na malaki ang savings :) pero not with regards to gross income

Whats the role?

muchas que puede habla....
- Centro de Commercial
- Centro de Financial
- Centro de las oficinas regional (quiere que no quiere, se el verdad)
- Centro de Industrial
- Centro de Educacion
- Centro de la Puesto del Archdioceso
- Centro de Patrimonio
- Centro de Medical Cura
- Centro de las Transportaciones Regional (Aire y Mar)
- Centro de Comunicacion
- Centro del Informacion de Tecnologia


i dont think Pagadian is the center...Still Ciudad de Zamboanga is the Cemter of all! by land & by Air... it is very easy for those from basilan to transact in region-9.

but then, since z.c. no longer the regional center. why is it all the deportees still throwing in the city? hende ba talla ya gane el departamento que ta asisti con esos mana deportados? era alla ya se todo acaba buta..o larga o lleva. y no aqui na Ciudad! cay el presupuesto del ciudad es solamente para de la Ciudad de Zamboanga ta guinda con estos mana deportados entonces, el presupuesto para de zamboanga ta falta ya lang... y por otros informaciones, nunca el gobierno nacional ya y ta ayuda con ciudad de zambo. desde antes! el Ciudad de zamboanga solamente ta vive con sus mismo entrada de presupuesto(local income)... tambien, si sabe vosotros que el c.z. amo el tiene con todo algo entrada de presupuesto na entero Region-9... vosotros era ta desea el ciudad PARA billiones.. pero el ciudad de pagadian ni no puede gane mentene el 1million? solamente hasta 850,00 desde tres años que ya pasa...

lstly, c.z. ever since is an isolated city.... doesnt interact with her neighboring provinces...

and if there are thos who dont know, Ciudad de Zamboanga has always the highest annual incone in the entire mindanao and also one of the city in the phil's that has a highest income! and compare to other cities in Mindanao, the cash-to-cash transactions is only in z.c while in CDO and Davao is Cheque-to-Cheque transactions only..
Ciudad de Zamboanga has the most numbers of Banks and its branches throought the city of Zamboanga. see!no surprise Zamboanga City rich!

i myself, not infavor constructing an SM,Gaisano..etc... why? it kills the uniqueness of Z.C. maybe this why Nuestro OFiciales Local doesnt always infavor.. maybe they are looking for an investor that will bring progress together with its unique identity...being Zamboanga City.

Unfair pala kayo, ang pagpunta ng Gaisano sa Zamboanga ang siya sanang magpapabago ng development ng city, mas maganda kasi pag may mga major malls eh tsaka actually gusto talaga ng Gaisano mag-invest sa Zamboanga dahil marami talaga potentials dito tsaka sa support ng local government dito. And if you said na you're not in favor sa pagpasok ng mga major mall developers, you are saying na ayaw mo maging competent ang Zamboanga. Ang dahilan ng sinabi mo... marami retail stores ang nasa city center kaya di pa tatayo ang mga major mall developers. Sana gumising ka na sa katotohan... Bitin talaga at limited lang mga produkto dito, kelangan pang pumunta pa ng Maynila o Cebu kasi mas maganda dun kesa dito, ganon ba?

Siguradong ang Southway pati Shoppers Center naglulure ng mga shoppers para piliting tangkilikin mga produkto nila na di maaasahan. Thhink of it, desperate na ang Zamboanga sa mga major malls.

Unfair pala kayo, ang pagpunta ng Gaisano sa Zamboanga ang siya sanang magpapabago ng development ng city, mas maganda kasi pag may mga major malls eh tsaka actually gusto talaga ng Gaisano mag-invest sa Zamboanga dahil marami talaga potentials dito tsaka sa support ng local government dito. And if you said na you're not in favor sa pagpasok ng mga major mall developers, you are saying na ayaw mo maging competent ang Zamboanga. Ang dahilan ng sinabi mo... marami retail stores ang nasa city center kaya di pa tatayo ang mga major mall developers. Sana gumising ka na sa katotohan... Bitin talaga at limited lang mga produkto dito, kelangan pang pumunta pa ng Maynila o Cebu kasi mas maganda dun kesa dito, ganon ba?

Siguradong ang Southway pati Shoppers Center naglulure ng mga shoppers para piliting tangkilikin mga produkto nila na di maaasahan. Thhink of it, desperate na ang Zamboanga sa mga major malls.

kaya nga, di po ba parang makalumang pamamaraan na yung di pagpapapasok ng mga investors galing sa labas para protektahan ang mga locals?though its a noble idea, in the end di siya healthy practice :yes:

;18919463']kaya nga, di po ba parang makalumang pamamaraan na yung di pagpapapasok ng mga investors galing sa labas para protektahan ang mga locals?though its a noble idea, in the end di siya healthy practice :yes:

Pati nga China Industrial-Socialist na ngayon. :)

ok i found the report here (pero 2006 lang ito)

Financial report of provinces and cities 2006

http://www.coa.gov.ph/Reports/RFP/2006FP-ProvCities.pdf

based on annual income eto ang income and expenses (in thousands) ng 1st class cities sa mindanao + nationwide ranking

format as : city : income[nationwide ranking] ----expenses [nation wide ranking]

davao P2,930,420 [5] ----- P2,681,301 [4]
zamboanga P1,529,971 [10] ----- P1,006,686 [15]
general santos P881,233[24] -------- P708,781[24]
cagayan de oro P1,219,384 [16] ------P959,809 [16]
iligan P1,142,396 [19] ------P1,073,260 [12]
malaybalay P566,303 [33] --------P466,755[37]
Tagum P483,659 [43] -------P358,641[46]
Butuan P755,265 [29] --------P605,786[27]


nationwide top 3 income and expenses

income

1 Manila P8,298,759
2 Quezon City P7,861,810
3 Makati P7,691,140

expenses

1 Manila P6,633,250
2 Quezon City P4,927,922
3 Makati P4,352,515



**** cebu and tacloban did not submit their report as of cut-off

CORRECCION...

it was actually on 2004-005
that zc got the highest...followed by Davao.!
i read it in the News paper... but i 4got!

Unfair pala kayo, ang pagpunta ng Gaisano sa Zamboanga ang siya sanang magpapabago ng development ng city, mas maganda kasi pag may mga major malls eh tsaka actually gusto talaga ng Gaisano mag-invest sa Zamboanga dahil marami talaga potentials dito tsaka sa support ng local government dito. And if you said na you're not in favor sa pagpasok ng mga major mall developers, you are saying na ayaw mo maging competent ang Zamboanga. Ang dahilan ng sinabi mo... marami retail stores ang nasa city center kaya di pa tatayo ang mga major mall developers. Sana gumising ka na sa katotohan... Bitin talaga at limited lang mga produkto dito, kelangan pang pumunta pa ng Maynila o Cebu kasi mas maganda dun kesa dito, ganon ba?

Siguradong ang Southway pati Shoppers Center naglulure ng mga shoppers para piliting tangkilikin mga produkto nila na di maaasahan. Thhink of it, desperate na ang Zamboanga sa mga major malls.


maybe thats your opinion...
for me... i want something unique... como "Marca de Zamboanga"

example: in CDO u will always remember.. yeah its "limket kai" it is the biggest y widest mall in CDO.

Manila - SM, Robinson etc..

IMO lang po: i think Davao's income did not dip to P1.5B in 2004 & 2005.

;18919044']i think ive seen that file you were referring to

dun sa report na yun, davao still had the biggest income in mindanao but zamboanga is among the top even beating cebu not because of the income but because it had fewer expenditures

kumbaga, konti lang ginagastos ng zamboanga from its income hence malaki ang savings nila versus the other cities

but regarding zamboanga being among the "billionaire" cities, that i have to see pa (im not sure if it is or its not) one thing im sure though is that davao has the biggest income among cities in mindanao

maybe thats what u might think.. have u not ever thought... where do zc exactly get its budget to sustai n the necessities of these deportees from malaysia, (known as "dumping site for deportees")? imagine, budget for zc wil just go there...

lastly,zc has the most expenses in the mindanao area...

maybe thats your opinion...
for me... i want something unique... como "Marca de Zamboanga"

example: in CDO u will always remember.. yeah its "limket kai" it is the biggest y widest mall in CDO.

Manila - SM, Robinson etc..

Ang alam ko lang, Southway lang ata pati Mindpro ang mapagkatiwalaang malls sa Zamboanga. Pero bitin talaga. Ang LimKetKai meron nang maraming choices especially Robinson's Department Store. Davao has Victoria Plaza and NCCC Malls, Cotabato has South Seas Complex, GenSan has KCC malls, Dagupan has CSI Warehouse and Malls. But all the said cities (except Cotabato) have or will also have SM, Robinson's, Gaisano Malls. Bakit ang Zamboanga wala pa rin major mall.

Tsaka ang alam ko lang sa Shoppers' Mall na yan, 10-storey mall?! Imposible yan, eh (lalo na kung magkakaearthquake, delikado!). Ang itatayong Shoppers' Mall actually walang originality at nanggagaya lang sa mga major malls ng Pinas, plus di maaasahan mga produkto basta Shoppers' chain of stores. Poor maintenance pa. Ang Golden Bell, pansin ko, unti-unting humina tsaka may mga stalls na nagbebenta ng mga pekeng gadgets at TV sa may Jaldon, pati na rin sa may Pershing.

By the way, to those who are part and be part of this forum, click the link/s below:
- Gaisano Boss Eyes Zamboanga Investment from Sunstar.Com.Ph (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/zam/2007/10/25/bus/gaisano.eyes.investment.in.zambo.html)
- Gaisano's Entry A Welcome Sight from Zamboanga Today (http://www.zambotoday.com/index.php?/archives/5488-Gaisanos-entry,a-welcome-sight.html)

If you read the article regarding on Gaisano Pagadian's construction and the proposed investment of Gaisano in Zamboanga in Business World online site, the president of Zamboanga City Chamber of Commerce and Industry James Makasiar said that reports on local investors lobbying against major mall developers are not true. He said that there are no barriers in investing business in Zamboanga (meaning major investors are welcome to Zamboanga since it has many potentials). But seeing in a different perspective, the major mall developers have not yet successfully build up malls here, the reason- too many retail stores in the city proper.

Ask lang. Mawawalan ba ng unti-unti ang economy ng Zamboanga since nalipat na ang regional center sa Pagadian?

I hope and pray that Zamboanga will be more competitive in terms of economic development no matter what happens.

^^lets not use the term debate mbell hehehehehe

I said the term debate because we wanted to do debates on certain issues affecting here in Zambonga through this forum. But not too much.

Ang alam ko lang, Southway lang ata pati Mindpro ang mapagkatiwalaang malls sa Zamboanga. Pero bitin talaga. Ang LimKetKai meron nang maraming choices especially Robinson's Department Store. Davao has Victoria Plaza and NCCC Malls, Cotabato has South Seas Complex, GenSan has KCC malls, Dagupan has CSI Warehouse and Malls. But all the said cities (except Cotabato) have or will also have SM, Robinson's, Gaisano Malls. Bakit ang Zamboanga wala pa rin major mall.

Tsaka ang alam ko lang sa Shoppers' Mall na yan, 10-storey mall?! Imposible yan, eh (lalo na kung magkakaearthquake, delikado!). Ang itatayong Shoppers' Mall actually walang originality at nanggagaya lang sa mga major malls ng Pinas, plus di maaasahan mga produkto basta Shoppers' chain of stores. Poor maintenance pa. Ang Golden Bell, pansin ko, unti-unting humina tsaka may mga stalls na nagbebenta ng mga pekeng gadgets at TV sa may Jaldon, pati na rin sa may Pershing.

By the way, to those who are part and be part of this forum, click the link/s below:
- Gaisano Boss Eyes Zamboanga Investment from Sunstar.Com.Ph (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/zam/2007/10/25/bus/gaisano.eyes.investment.in.zambo.html)
- Gaisano's Entry A Welcome Sight from Zamboanga Today (http://www.zambotoday.com/index.php?/archives/5488-Gaisanos-entry,a-welcome-sight.html)

If you read the article regarding on Gaisano Pagadian's construction and the proposed investment of Gaisano in Zamboanga in Business World online site, the president of Zamboanga City Chamber of Commerce and Industry James Makasiar said that reports on local investors lobbying against major mall developers are not true. He said that there are no barriers in investing business in Zamboanga (meaning major investors are welcome to Zamboanga since it has many potentials). But seeing in a different perspective, the major mall developers have not yet successfully build up malls here, the reason- too many retail stores in the city proper.

Ask lang. Mawawalan ba ng unti-unti ang economy ng Zamboanga since nalipat na ang regional center sa Pagadian?

I hope and pray that Zamboanga will be more competitive in terms of economic development no matter what happens.

nOPE! IT WONT..
hu sayys poor?
r u an Architect?
i dont think so.... before constructing a bldg. it is being studied...and considering its siesmic, climatic, environment condition...
in designing for structural load... mucho se technic para puede aguanta na mana destroso naturales...

lastly, in designing a bldg. it is 90%planning and 10% implementation...
poor soil can be cop up wth tecnology....

bdw, regarding dat edificio de shopper's mall.. i hv its Perspective Presentation... quiere tu? IT IS 10-STOREY BLDG. 4-storey mall with 6-sotrey hotel.. 8-cinemas, with balling, ice-skating..etc...all nuevo! y no como convecional!

CORRECCION...

it was actually on 2004-005
that zc got the highest...followed by Davao.!
i read it in the News paper... but i 4got!

proof? kasi maski 2003 consistent na top ang davao

kaya before you make claims, back it up with proofs para di nakakatawa

maybe thats what u might think.. have u not ever thought... where do zc exactly get its budget to sustai n the necessities of these deportees from malaysia, (known as "dumping site for deportees")? imagine, budget for zc wil just go there...

lastly,zc has the most expenses in the mindanao area...

bakit? gaano ba kalaking part ng budget ang pag sustain ng deportees?

and most expenses sa mindanao area? did you look at the stats i posted? look it up pa sa COA

like i sad, back your claims with sources, otherwise di yan credible..wag lang yung "but i forgot" :lol:

wahhh... masyadong nakakatakot naman dito sa thread na ito... wooshh!!! im back!!! waway, have me problem sa sc4 ko... help me naman oh... huhuhu

^^ nah di naman nakakatakot hehe..FYI di naman ako anti-zamboanga, ganito talaga ako sa lahat ng threads (maski sa davao) pag may false claims.kino correct ko lang talaga or nag i-inquire ako for proof or sources

eto pa Acer_Cyle, fiscal year 2003 naman (ang available lang sa COA is 2003 and 2006 FYI so i dunno you got the "so called" 2004-05 figures)

red column is income, yellow is national ranking (excluding metro manila), blue ang expenses and green is national ranking (excluding metro manila)

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5417/40085597nc6.jpg

waway, help me sa city ko, ung mga buildings na dinowload ko di umiilaw sa gabi... huhuhuhu

pirated ba ang copy mo?

ung sc4 ko? nope, original un. kaso na reformat ung pc ko last month. di ko alam ulit paano gawin ung mga dinowload kong bat buildings na umilaw sa gabe... huhuhuh

ah kung orig, download ka lang ng updates/patches :)
search mo lang SC4 patch

ahh... oki po, salamat =]

;18923602']proof? kasi maski 2003 consistent na top ang davao

kaya before you make claims, back it up with proofs para di nakakatawa

accepta yo si yo mali...
pero macirisas conmigo? depende ya lang se... nosotros taque para man "share" idea" y no para brutalmente juzga!!!! macarisas conmigo, depende si el gente bien perfecto y mal juzgador! ese...

translation please

Im sorry for asking, but uhmmm do u know how to speak english or even tagalog Acer? I hope you dont mind if i'll suggest that you post in Tagalog or Taglish coz not all forumers can understand your dialect.

People who visit this thread, I believe, are not Zamboangeños alone. Thank you. :okay:

google came up with this translation..



Accepts me if I mali ...
But macirisas me? Lang is already depends ... Taque for us to "share" idea "and not for brutally judged! Macarisas me, it depends if the people good and evil judge perfect! That ..

but i dont know what macirisas is

as far as brutally me brutally judging you, i didnt, i just wanted proof of your claims since the research i did showed a different result..nothing brutal with that IMO

^^ So is he saying that the info from Commission On Audit is a lie? hmmmm...so where did he get his research then? hay...mga tao tlga...cant accept a fact if certain info would go againts them :ohno:

i dunno since medyo barok yung translation ng google :lol:

as far is his research, he saw it somewhere daw pero he forgot where

waway, ung sku 1 lang ba kailangan ko?

;18923981']i dunno since medyo barok yung translation ng google :lol:

as far is his research, he saw it somewhere daw pero he forgot where



^^ looking at his avatar, i think mas matured pa si Acer satin. so im pretty sure that he is aware that not all news coming out on newspapers are factual and true. Hmmmm.....kunting research lang din po and go straight to where the stat is coming from. Based on your previous posts, you guys are talking about income and expenses of certain cities right? So Acer, did you know that COA or the Commission On Audit is the most reliable source for such info? you may have read something different, but that doesnt mean that what you've read is true. Do not just eat everything that is being fed to you...it's best to think and analyze things before accepting them as true!

Hmmmmm example, if you would read it somewhere that the Philippines is now the strongest economy in the whole world and that our currency is now the benchmark of other currencies, it may be a positive news, but dont tell me na maniniwala ka!

You're saying that Zamboanga has a bigger income than Davao? Thats good then...Good for you. However, I viewed the links provided by Waway and its giving me a different info. If nakasulat dun na Zamboanga indeed has a bigger income, then I would succumb to your claims. Pero iba ang nakikita ko eh....at iba ang nakasulat sa stats...Stats which are factual and true! and not mere hearsays or "ive read it from somewhere". Just my 2 cents.

waway, ung sku 1 lang ba kailangan ko?

if english version ang simcity mo

basta malaman mo na magwork yan if nasa version 640 na ang simcity mo

and dont use a no-cd crack since kahit updated ang simcity mo tapos gumamit ka nun, di talaga iilaw ang mga building mo :)

@ TJ

yun nga eh

accepta yo si yo mali...
pero macirisas conmigo? depende ya lang se... nosotros taque para man "share" idea" y no para brutalmente juzga!!!! macarisas conmigo, depende si el gente bien perfecto y mal juzgador! ese...

Translate ko:

accept ko kung mali ako
pero, anu nakakatawa skin? depende na lang yan. nandto tayo para magshare ng idea tska hindi para manghusga!!! nakakatawa sakin, depende na lang kung ang ngipin mo perfect para maghusga ka...

macirisas means: nakakatawa =]

meron akong nakita sa sc4 na new update para magilaw ung mga bat buildings, kaso site register lang ako, ung problem ko ung serial code ng deluxe edition ko may nakaregister na...

^^ based on the previous posts, i think waway was not being a prejudice. He was just presenting a fact. Ideas can either be factual or not. I think waway was just setting the record straight.

Thnx for the translation Chrisvenz!

Anyway.....

IMO, Zamboanga is one of the most beautiful cities in Mindanao. And indeed it is Mindanao's pride....but dont let this pride make a clown out of our island. People in this forum are smarter than what we think of. They only not read information online, they scrutinize and look for other references that would prove and back certain claims. Thanks!

Next to Davao, I would love to see Zamboanga and General Santos rise up as well! I believe that these two cities deserve more! I dont know why, but i believe that Dabawenyos have stronger affinity to people coming from Zamboanga or General Santos. I personally see these two cities as lil brothers and comrades in development.

meron akong nakita sa sc4 na new update para magilaw ung mga bat buildings, kaso site register lang ako, ung problem ko ung serial code ng deluxe edition ko may nakaregister na...

ouch mukhang mahirap nga yan :( san mo nabili ang simcity mo, ireklamo mo na lang doon :)

accepta yo si yo mali...
pero macirisas conmigo? depende ya lang se... nosotros taque para man "share" idea" y no para brutalmente juzga!!!! macarisas conmigo, depende si el gente bien perfecto y mal juzgador! ese...

Translate ko:

accept ko kung mali ako
pero, anu nakakatawa skin? depende na lang yan. nandto tayo para magshare ng idea tska hindi para manghusga!!! nakakatawa sakin, depende na lang kung ang ngipin mo perfect para maghusga ka...

macirisas means: nakakatawa =]

thanks for the translation chrisvenz..wow! what a mature reply from acer huh? :lol:

my apologies to acer for the "nakakatawa" term, i couldnt find a proper term lang sa manner na pag rebut nya sa post ko

accepta yo si yo mali...
pero macirisas conmigo? depende ya lang se... nosotros taque para man "share" idea" y no para brutalmente juzga!!!! macarisas conmigo, depende si el gente bien perfecto y mal juzgador! ese...

Translate ko:

accept ko kung mali ako
pero ano, nakkatwa sakin? depende na lang yan. nandto tayo para magshare ng idea tska NOT TO JUDGE BRUTALLY!!! MAGING KATAWATAWA Ako, depende na lang kung ang tao ay perfect at mal-mala juzgador-taga-juzga...

why i sed this because you're so tactless!
but anyway, perdoname! un Zamboangueño knws how to accept...PAZ!


macArisas means: funny,laugh, smiling
gente(h' ente) - man,people
Diente (Di'ente) - tooth
Dientes - Teeth


sorry! i couldnt really speaks tagalo y ingles..

and bdw, this is a Zamboanga Thread.. and i have the rights to speak our local language...

ouch, if meron kang execute file ng patch ng sc4, pwde send mo na lang skinj sa ym? huhuh, svenzalimatiks_24 <<< ym ko... hehehe if its okay lang sayo waway. I spent 2k sa sc4 deluxe edition. huhuhuhu

http://www.geocities.com/sharpblade123/234.JPG

ay sorry acer!!! lol, bawal ang pikon dito sa thread natin, be kind naman. Tska if your wrong na, wag na magsabe ng pangit sa kapwa tao, mas okay nga yun may tumutulong pa satin itama tayo... saan ka ba nagaral? sa wmsu ba?

;18923910']google came up with this translation..



but i dont know what macarisas is

as far as brutally me brutally judging you, i didnt, i just wanted proof of your claims since the research i did showed a different result..nothing brutal with that IMO


ok...

but anywayy, i didnt say that the above were lies....
but its true i have read a newspaper.. but i'l try to look for it and read it agen to confirm myself... but if incase i was wrong then wrong.accept... its ok with me.. i dont mine!

Adios...PAZ

accepta yo si yo mali...
pero macirisas conmigo? depende ya lang se... nosotros taque para man "share" idea" y no para brutalmente juzga!!!! macarisas conmigo, depende si el gente bien perfecto y mal juzgador! ese...

Translate ko:

accept ko kung mali ako
pero ano, nakkatwa sakin? depende na lang yan. nandto tayo para magshare ng idea tska NOT TO JUDGE BRUTALLY!!! MAGING KATAWATAWA Ako, depende na lang kung ang tao ay perfect at mal-mala juzgador-taga-juzga...

why i sed this because you're so tactless!
but anyway, perdoname! un Zamboangueño knws how to accept...PAZ!
.

brutally judged? OA mo naman preng :) i already apologized for the "kakatawa" statment since i couldnt think of a word (at that time) to describe how i felt about your post

siguro i should have said "kaya before you make claims, back it up with proofs para di ka parang gumagawa ng kwento"

yan ok na ba yan? :)

ang point ko lang naman, before we make big claims, we should back it up with credible sources para naman mas kapanipaniwala :yes:



and bdw, this is a Zamboanga Thread.. and i have the rights to speak our local language...

yeah but its quite rude IMO to talk to someone in a language na di nya naiintindihan especially during a heated discussion :yes:


@chris, masyadong malaki :( nasa 40mb lahat..di kaya sa email yan

ill try to ask my friend who has a rapidshare account to upload it later :)

wah
thanks po waway... i owe you...

http://www.geocities.com/sharpblade123/234.JPG

i was talking about gross income :yes: ( yun diniscuss namin ni ibex sa previous posts)

kasi IMO mas significant yun kasi yun ang nagpapakita ng kinikita ng isang lugar..having expenses or minimal (basta wag lang masyadong mababa) na net income is ok lang naman kasi dapat naman talaga ginagastos ang income ng city para maibalik naman sa tao ang taxes na binabayad nila :yes:

ACER!!! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!!! lol

i think they base it on net income... cause if we see on the figure, Davao has a bigger Expenses than zamboanga thus gross income will be relatively higher that zamboanga. compare the net income (gain) of both cities, which has potential.. less capital but high income or more capital but less income?

wah
thanks po waway... i owe you...

inu upload ko na, kaso mabagal nag net ko (plan 1299 lang) so it could take a while..check mo after 1 hour baka ok na ang upload :D

oki po.=] saan mo isend?

i think they base it on net income... cause if we see on the figure, Davao has a bigger Expenses than zamboanga thus gross income will be relatively higher that zamboanga. compare the net income (gain) of both cities, which has potential.. less capital but high income or more capital but less income?

well maraming possible interpretation yan (net income)

in my opinion, dapat proportion ang gross income mo sa expenses mo (kung city ha, kung tao ok lang siguro magtipid lols)

kasi pera ng tao yun eh, so dapat ibalik sa tao thru projects and services (expenses) and pasweldo sa govt workers

for example, the past two years malaki ang expenses ng davao dahil sa traffic signalization project, waste disposal, drainage and peoples park..almost 900 million ang cost ng lahat ng ito so expected na mbababa ang net income kasi na translate ang gross income to services and projects :yes:

ang importante, may mataas na gross income para may pantustos sa projects and services (expenses)


@chrisvenz

dito ko na lang ipost ang link (rapidshare yun)

35 minutes to go :)

I want you all to analyze the figures... Equity to net income...


http://www.geocities.com/sharpblade123/234.JPG

from the site:
http://www.coa.gov.ph/Reports/RFP/2006FP-ProvCities.pdf

mainit tlaga ang dicussion..ayaw ko na lang makisali...

ahh. okay po.=] daming salamat waway.

hindi ba assets-liabilities = equity?

Zoroe, open tayo topic...

sa tingin mo pwde bang maging Hong kong style ang zamboanga?
I mean maging independent city / state. Na hinde nakikialam ang government ng Pilinas,
na may sarili tayong government system pero under parin tayo sa Philippines...

;18924267']i was talking about gross income :yes: ( yun diniscuss namin ni ibex sa previous posts)

kasi IMO mas significant yun kasi yun ang nagpapakita ng kinikita ng isang lugar..having expenses or minimal (basta wag lang masyadong mababa) na net income is ok lang naman kasi dapat naman talaga ginagastos ang income ng city para maibalik naman sa tao ang taxes na binabayad nila :yes:

Isa rin sigurong explanation nyan ay ganito:

In government ang budget natin for this year was made last year basing on that year's income. Siguro naging efficient yung collection ninyo than the projected kaya may difference kayong malaki. Pero that doesn't prove na malaki ang income nyo than davao kasi in the government wala yang malaking surplus dahil at the end of the year dapat zero-zero ang numbers. Kaya yung ibang LGU's ginagawang bonus yung mga savings.

assets= liabilities + equity

and

equity= assets - liabilities

and

assets - liabilities = equity (wayway wrote)

in alegraic expression will yield the same result.

Zoroe, open tayo topic...

sa tingin mo pwde bang maging Hong kong style ang zamboanga?
I mean maging independent city / state. Na hinde nakikialam ang government ng Pilinas,
na may sarili tayong government system pero under parin tayo sa Philippines...

why not? or at least mala subic (freeport zone) muna and the rest will follow :)

@ibex

yun din ang point ko, what matters is malaki ang income na pantustos sa expenses

ok lang na malaki ang expenses and maliit ang net income (in my opinion) lalo na kung ang expenses ay binabalik sa tao thru services and projects

di naman kasi parang "personal savings" ang income ng city na dapat tipirin

assets= liabilities + equity (to get the assets if liab and equity wr provided)

and

equity= assets - liabilities (to get the equtity if liab and assets wr provided)

and

assets - liabilities = equity (wayway wrote)(to get the equtity if liab and assets wr provided)

in alegraic expression will yield the same result.

assets= liabilities + equity

and

equity= assets - liabilities

and

assets - liabilities = equity (wayway wrote)

in alegraic expression will yield the same result.

alam ko po

ang point ko lang naman po is di po ba ang equity ang final number (i was asking)

na at the end of the day, what you have is the quity? (again tanong po ito) and not the assets? (since bawasan ng liabilities ang assets?)

but in accounting
they usually
use the

assets = liability + equity

as their general formula

thats why i wrote it that way.

since you mentioned about this lets see on the equityscale of both cities...

any updates about shoppers' center... im just eager to see the new building..

can anyone post a pic...

but in accounting
they usually
use the

assets = liability + equity

as their general formula

thats why i wrote it that way.

since you mentioned about this lets see on the equityscale of both cities...

im not an accountant so wala akong background sa ganyan :) thats why i asked

so eto po bang assets na ito, di ba kasali dito yung mga properties na pwedeng ma liquidate/mabenta?

lahat ba ng assets ay pwedeng gamitin as funds to support the city's projects and services?

kumbaga, sa annual budget ng city, saan ba ito kinukuha? sa assets or sa gross income?

@chris, na upload ko na

heres the download link http://rapidshare.com/files/98166272/Desktop.rar.html

kailangan mo ng winrar para ma extract ang file since 2 updates yan :)

kailangan ko pang idownload ung rapidshare? wahhh....

but in accounting
they usually
use the

assets = liability + equity

as their general formula

thats why i wrote it that way.

since you mentioned about this lets see on the equityscale of both cities...

Assets naman can be accumulated over the years, yung income that particular year yun.:)

Income statement and Balance sheet are two different things...

Kung malaki ang equity ng isang lugar maraming posibleng source ng funds like nagpapautang dahil may pang collateral ito, ganyan ang Zamboanga mayaman sa asset. I love ZC...:cheers:

okay na po, waway... nadownload ko na... =]

gross income is part only of the assets in term of funding.

gross income is the money you received from what you sell and by rendering services...

gross income is part only of the assets in term of funding.

gross income is the money you received from what you sell and by rendering services...

Yes but ibahin natin ang Gov't Accounting @wends kasi it is not there to income in the services it rendered. It is not profit oriented. Kaya sa mga nag aaccountancy dyan or sa mga accountants alam nila na iba ang Gov't accounting .

gross income is the money you received from what you sell and by rendering services...

di po ba ang gross income ay based on taxes?

while yung sa assets ay kasali na ang mga properties ng city gaya ng lupa, heavy equipement etc?

sa pag prepare ng annual budget, ang alam ko ang gross income ng city ang pinagkukunan at hindi ang assets

okay na po, waway... nadownload ko na... =]

goodluck sa pag update mo :)

at wag kang gagamit ng no-cd crack ha, otherwise the nightlights still wont work

wahh,,, ang saya!!! salamat waway... i owe you so much!!! daming salamat sayo!!!

no problem :)

ok..thanks ibex....im just trying to define gross income in general term...
thanks anyway....:)

;18924992']di po ba ang gross income ay based on taxes?

while yung sa assets ay kasali na ang mga properties ng city gaya ng lupa, heavy equipement etc?

sa pag prepare ng annual budget, ang alam ko ang gross income ng city ang pinagkukunan at hindi ang assets

Precisely kuya waway...:)

ok..thanks ibex....im just trying to define gross income in general term...
thanks anyway....:)

You are welcome wends... Friends gud ang ZC ug DC...:okay:

so bakit ang ibang city nag s-save ng malaki? di po ba dapat proportional sa ine earn nya ang spending?

;18925078']so bakit ang ibang city nag s-save ng malaki? di po ba dapat proportional sa ine earn nya ang spending?

Hehehe wala akong masagot dyan waway.

^^ Mas mabuti sana kung may Cashflow na ipresent para makita ang liquidity, para maexamine ang income at para ma-evaluate ang performance, rate of returns. etc.

we won the debate not because of substance but by technicalities..by d way, our main team line is this: Zamboanga is a melting pot of ethnicities and Tausugs and Bisayas combined do have larger number compared to Chavacanos...

u mean that chabacano will be like primary language. in bussiness like malls and others? like the CR's door label will be like "Hombre" y "Mujer"? government documents and non goverment documents to0?

just asking hehehe

Jajaja, not really. I used to hangout with other Spaniards and "troll" around with the Portuguese forumers who are so anti-Spanish in the European fora. :lol: I am sure if they see the post that you wrote about them being part of Spain before they would surely wage war with it! :D

Anyway, i'll try to help you guys later when I have time! :)

iQue tenga un buen día!

ic ic.. but they cant change the history.. ^-^v



In 1578, a very young king Sebastian died in battle without an heir (the body was not found), leading to a dynastic crisis. The late king's elderly grand-uncle, Cardinal Henry, became king, but died two years later. Portugal was worried about the maintenance of its independence and sought help to find a new king. Philip II of Spain was on his mother's side the grandson of King Manuel I, and on that basis claimed the Portuguese throne. He was opposed by António, Prior of Crato, the illegitimate son of one of the younger sons of Manuel II. As a result, following Henry's death Spain invaded Portugal and the Spanish king became Philip I of Portugal in 1580; the Spanish and Portuguese Empires came under a single rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Portugal

^^ Kuanto Manang Terry tiene ali? deba yan spread out yan se ali as what ive heard?

i only know 2... yung isa sa likod ng adzu...

(^_^'')v

Zoroe, open tayo topic...

sa tingin mo pwde bang maging Hong kong style ang zamboanga?
I mean maging independent city / state. Na hinde nakikialam ang government ng Pilinas,
na may sarili tayong government system pero under parin tayo sa Philippines...


Gusto ko yan!!! pra di na makealam si gloring sa aten.. tanggalin ba naman kung ano galing saten.. taz ilipat sa ibang lugar..... baket kya di sya gumawa ng sarili nyang gimik pra sa fav lugar nya.. di yung kinukuha lng nya taz ibigay sa iba...

no offence sa iba.. im just voicing out..

^-^v 私達のプレジデントは本当悪いだね～　ばかだ～

nawala lng aq ng sandali.. taz ang haba na pla.. ang init ng usapan...


(-__-")?

Zamboanga Skyline from the Perlita Hotel Roofdeck

http://photos-096.friendster.com/e1/photos/69/08/19408096/1_949480094l.jpg

http://photos-096.friendster.com/e1/photos/69/08/19408096/1_308164019l.jpg

http://photos-096.friendster.com/e1/photos/69/08/19408096/1_920753149l.jpg

http://photos-096.friendster.com/e1/photos/69/08/19408096/1_312399054l.jpg

http://photos-096.friendster.com/e1/photos/69/08/19408096/1_627279249l.jpg

;18924267']i was talking about gross income :yes: ( yun diniscuss namin ni ibex sa previous posts)

kasi IMO mas significant yun kasi yun ang nagpapakita ng kinikita ng isang lugar..having expenses or minimal (basta wag lang masyadong mababa) na net income is ok lang naman kasi dapat naman talaga ginagastos ang income ng city para maibalik naman sa tao ang taxes na binabayad nila :yes:


WAWAY..
i already sed 'PERDONAME and PAZ" for "FORGIVE ME and PEACE" read it agen...:)

but anyway, maybe iwas wrong coz i im not that specific to my answer...PAZ lol:banana:

anyway, as wat i hv read in the above illustration... i gues, z.c. stil has the highest income... even at our daily sueldo, we actually based it on our net income.. or the one that we bring home...

u mean that chabacano will be like primary language. in bussiness like malls and others? like the CR's door label will be like "Hombre" y "Mujer"? government documents and non goverment documents to0?

just asking hehehe


you're ryt... not war but peac.. entonces AMOR CON AMOR SE PAGA A TODOS USTEDES!

tha would be great....if all the signs, documents will be written agen in zamboangueño... even our nacional hymn...
and lastly nuestro Himno debe tambien implementa gayot y debe canta este cada antes el Hinmo Nacional... que debe canta el "Zamboanga Hermosa" cay este el de nuestro Himno de Zamboanga.

or Zamboanga City must become again as she is before, not part of the Phil. clic here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Zamboanga

ese mi deseo, tambien de tuyo.
thats my wish/dream, and also yours.

ACER!!! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!!! lol

Si, not war...but

Amor con Amor se Paga:banana:

Im sorry for asking, but uhmmm do u know how to speak english or even tagalog Acer? I hope you dont mind if i'll suggest that you post in Tagalog or Taglish coz not all forumers can understand your dialect.

People who visit this thread, I believe, are not Zamboangeños alone. Thank you. :okay:

perdoname, but sometimes its quite normal for people losing his vobucalary in tagalo or in ingles...:)

ay sorry acer!!! lol, bawal ang pikon dito sa thread natin, be kind naman. Tska if your wrong na, wag na magsabe ng pangit sa kapwa tao, mas okay nga yun may tumutulong pa satin itama tayo... saan ka ba nagaral? sa wmsu ba?

ok.. but anyway, i didnt say bad words to my kapwa... read the lines amigo... im using the "3rd person plural" and not the "2nd person"

ok...PAZ a todos ustedes..

No hay tu, no hay mañana
Por: Comic Relief

1- Estribillo:
No sabe porque
No sabe cosa
No puede habla
El de tuyo amor
Hende ya igual
Como primero
Ojala hay vira
Tu sentido..

Coro:
Hende aguanta
Si no hay tu conmigo
No puede que habla
Si cosa yo ta senti
Ya deja tu conmigo
sin rason.
Dolorido mi Corazon
Si no hay tu aqui
Quilaya yo hay vivi
Tu eres mi vida, mi alma
Si no hay tu, no hay mañana.

2- Estribillo:
No hay yo rason
para dicta
El mi amor
o insisti
Porza el cosa
ta senti
Ta roga yo
hay vira tu sentido.
(repiti coro)


Mi Estrella
Por: Comic Relief

Coro:
Tu eres mi estrella
Mi pregunta alumbra
Ayer y ahora
Hasta mañana
Contigo lang yo
Hay pensa.

1- Estribillo:
Taque yo
Tu retrato
Ta mira
Dol perro loco
Tu el laman del cabeza
Donde tu?
Puede yo contigo hay mira
Para man contento
Queda completo mi vida.
(repiti coro:)

3- Estribillo:
Serioso yo
Bien quiere man
gayot yo contigo
Dale yo todo mi vida,
alma y mi cuerpo
Otro yo
Hende yo hay hace loco
O hay man embustero
Verdad este mi amor .
(repiti coro:)


Cuando
Por: Comic Relief

1- Estribillo:
que tal man tu ahora
donde anda
libre ba tu
puede yo lleva pasea

pasencia comigo
si bodi man yo
pero precura yo dale el todo contigo

Hende ba tu ta sinti
Dejalo lang que hay sufri
ta canta yo con este cancion
con todo mi corazon
y mi pensamiento

Coro:
cuando
cuando contesta
firmi yo ta reza que kita dos hay queda
tu dulce palabra firmi yo ta espera

cuando tu contesta
si hende ahora, cuando
cuando

2- Estribillo:
todo el hora
yo ta pensa
si OK ba tu? (si tu esta muy bien?)
ta come ba tu na hora

perdona tu conmigo
si quebrao man yo
pero precura yo cambia solamente para contigo.


No hay mas
Por: Comic Relief

1-Estribillo:
Hende ba
ya habla ya yo
que no quiere mas
yo contigo
cuanto veces
que necesita habla
tan suh-mut ya yo
man vira-vira.

Coro:
No sabe por que
hende tu ta cree
bien mucho rason
puede ba entende
mio amor
hinay ta perde
tu el rason
mi Corazon ta duele

2-Estribillo:
Mira derecho na mis ojos
(habla si cosa tu ta mira)
no estraña
si yo tan lejos
alegre yo
cuando kita pa dos
pensaba yo
hay llega kita años
(Repiti Coro)

Interludio:
Donde ya el amor
perdido ya
pero por que pa
necesita porza
hace yo sale na mi pecho
el maga sentimiento
tiempo ya

Cosa yo ya falta
para tu hay rabia
todo’l dia conmigo
tu ta pelea
mas bueno gaja
yo ya lang hay separta
para no hay mas ya
no hay mas ya kita…
(Repiti Coro)

Finale:
No sabe por que
no quiere tu cree
bien mucho rason
puede ba entende
mio amor
derepente ta perde
tu el rason
mi corazon…
…ta duele.

y otras canciones como

Salta PAteando
Dulce Tira-Tira
Dale dale Candela


a todos Zamboangueños...
yo ta apela con ustedes que ojala ustedes y nosotros hay suporta el nuestro mana canciones y banda local..

Muchisimas Gracias a todos ustedes!

i gues, z.c. stil has the highest income... even at our daily sueldo, we actually based it on our net income.. or the one that we bring home...

you said take home pay, di ba ang take home pay ay ang sweldo mo after taxes and mga SSS deductions etc? take home pay is the one you bring home para gastusin mo pambayad ng bills, pangkain etc..

sa city kasi, parang yung gross income ang take home pay since yun naman ang gagamitin pang gastos ng city, yung net income ay ang natitira ata pagkatapos mong gumastos (pang sweldo sa govt employees, pang fund ng projects at pang render ng services sa citizens among others na pagkakagastusan ng city sa bawat taon)

ganito ha, mas sisimplehin ko

dalawang tao

ang isa kumikita ng P30,000 every month pero out of the P30,000 eh P5000 lang ang natitira sa kanya kasi yung P5000 is for bills and P10,000 for food and entertainment and P10,000 for pag-aaral sa anak nya

yung isa naman is P20,000 ang kita nya every month, pero P8000 ang natitira sa sweldo nya since ang bills nya is P2000 lang, P5000 lang ang food and entertainment and P5000 lang ang sa pag-aaral ng anak

sa dalawa ba masasabi mo na mas malaki ang sweldo nung taong P20000 ang sweldo per month? or mas malaki lang ang savings nya per month?

di po ba mas malaki pa rin ang kinikita nung P30,000 ang sweldo kaso lang mas maliit ang savings nya kasi nga marami siyang ginagastos?

;18939786']you said take home pay, di ba ang take home pay ay ang sweldo mo after taxes and mga SSS deductions etc? take home pay is the one you bring home para gastusin mo pambayad ng bills, pangkain etc..

sa city kasi, parang yung gross income ang take home pay since yun naman ang gagamitin pang gastos ng city, yung net income ay ang natitira ata pagkatapos mong gumastos (pang sweldo sa govt employees, pang fund ng projects at pang render ng services sa citizens among others na pagkakagastusan ng city sa bawat taon)

ganito ha, mas sisimplehin ko

dalawang tao

ang isa kumikita ng P30,000 every month pero out of the P30,000 eh P5000 lang ang natitira sa kanya kasi yung P5000 is for bills and P10,000 for food and entertainment and P10,000 for pag-aaral sa anak nya

yung isa naman is P20,000 ang kita nya every month, pero P8000 ang natitira sa sweldo nya since ang bills nya is P2000 lang, P5000 lang ang food and entertainment and P5000 lang ang sa pag-aaral ng anak

sa dalawa ba masasabi mo na mas malaki ang sweldo nung taong P20000 ang sweldo per month? or mas malaki lang ang savings nya per month?

di po ba mas malaki pa rin ang kinikita nung P30,000 ang sweldo kaso lang mas maliit ang savings nya kasi nga marami siyang ginagastos?


thats another stories i guess...

Net Income...is the excess or the profit..
tama nga mas malaki nga talga ang GRP ng Davao...yes! pero kung tutuusin... mas malaki parin ang nasesave ng zambo.. and in that sense malaki tlga ang sa zambo..

tama ka rin... if GRp yes.. if NET, no!
tatanungin din kita.. sino kaya sa palagay mo ang mas aasenso:
malaki ang savings kahit not so mlki ang sueldo O yung malki ang sueldo pero maliit ang savings?


lastly... peace...


lets go back to our main topic kc we're alreadi out of topic..

What made the government decide to transfer regional center to Pagadian ba in the first place?

Net Income...is the excess or the profit..
tama nga mas malaki nga talga ang GRP ng Davao...yes! pero kung tutuusin... mas malaki parin ang nasesave ng zambo.. and in that sense malaki tlga ang sa zambo..

tama ka rin... if GRp yes.. if NET, no!
tatanungin din kita.. sino kaya sa palagay mo ang mas aasenso:
malaki ang savings kahit not so mlki ang sueldo O yung malki ang sueldo pero maliit ang savings?

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kung sa tao, mas ok siguro ang malaki ang savings, but then iba ang usapan pag city eh, you have to spend the money you are making para sa citizens (thru projects and services and investments) may sig nyan dati ang isang cebuano forumer na agree ako which goes like this "you have to invest in yourself for you to grow". In the case of cebu, they invested sa SRP, in Davao , thru modernization ng garbage collection and disposal, central 911 funding, world class traffic signalization projects, the new people's park etc

yung kinikita ng city, dapat binabalik sa tao hence dapat proportion yung expenses mo sa kinikita mo..di naman personal savings ang pag approach mo sa income ng city goverment and whats more imporant is the gross income ng city para malaki ang budget sa pag render ng services sa mga tao :)

so to answer your question, for me, mas aasenso pa rin ang malaki ang sweldo kasi mas makaka invest sya sa sarili nya





lets go back to our main topic kc we're alreadi out of topic..

What made the government decide to transfer regional center to Pagadian ba in the first place?

actually di naman off topic yung discussion about city income kasi pinag uusapan natin ang approach ng 2 cities sa pagmanage ng finances nito :)

about the transfer of the regional center, i wouldnt know since im not privy to whats going on naman sa politics..kung haka haka lang naman, heres what i think

1. it could be politics
2. it could be to give pagadian a chance to grow (sadly at the expense of zamboanga and zamboangeños kasi they have to travel to pagadian for their transactions)
3. maybe they think pagadian is more accessible to the majority of the regional population?

;18939786']

sa city kasi, parang yung gross income ang take home pay since yun naman ang gagamitin pang gastos ng city, yung net income ay ang natitira ata pagkatapos mong gumastos (pang sweldo sa govt employees, pang fund ng projects at pang render ng services sa citizens among others na pagkakagastusan ng city sa bawat taon)

In addition to Acer statements.

when we think the system itself, we will find that theres a cycle on it..

Where do we get the gross income? from the taxes,right? so if we consider this we can say that this income comes from the pocket of the people... in which the gov. oath to render services out of this money...cun baga ito ang blood life..and from the services or through expenses, people will have another way of earning which will attribute to the gross income...again it goes back to gross income and so on... its a cycle...

Gov. system is like a business.

the gov. sustains out of the collection they get if and only if their gross income is greater than that they need other wise there is a loss...same as for business..

in business, you must invest first before you can rip...

so therefore, if the government of zamboanga spend their money to invest as what you said the result of the gross income will depend on the 35% net (this is zamboanga's percentage net income...

this will determine the potential of the city to prosper....

on the other hand, if you have 5% net then you see no matter how big you invest you will just raise only 5% percent of what you investment....it is all proportional...

in addition...zamboanga is less maintenance city... because the gov. are wise when spending money....maybe zamboanga has a plan why they are saving money...it is nice if we have savings if in case of natural calamities or etc...
rather than spending all money without seeing the future posibilities... this will remain a barren gov...

now... i understand why zamboanga opens up a freefort.
lots of barter trade with cheap products...its all for the people...

And despite of the impression "that zamboanga is not a safe place" which is not true, zamboanga still competes locally as well as globally.

In addition to Acer statements.

when we think the system itself, we will find that theres a cycle on it..

Where do we get the gross income? from the taxes,right? so if we consider this we can say that this income comes from the pocket of the people... in which the gov. oath to render services out of this money...cun baga ito ang blood life..and from the services or through expenses, people will have another way of earning which will attribute to the gross income...again it goes back to gross income and so on... its a cycle...

Gov. system is like a business.

the gov. sustains out of the collection they get if and only if their gross income is greater than that they need other wise there is a loss...same as for business..

in business, you must invest first before you can rip...

so therefore, if the government of zamboanga spend their money to invest as what you said the result of the gross income will depend on the 35% net (this is zamboanga's percentage net income...

this will determine the potential of the city to prosper....

on the other hand, if you have 5% net then you see no matter how big you invest you will just raise only 5% percent of what you investment....it is all proportional...

in addition...zamboanga is less maintenance city... because the gov. are wise when spending money....maybe zamboanga has a plan why they are saving money...it is nice if we have savings if in case of natural calamities or etc...
rather than spending all money without seeing the future posibilities... this will remain a barren gov...

now... i understand why zamboanga opens up a freefort.
lots of barter trade with cheap products...its all for the people...

And despite of the impression "that zamboanga is not a safe place" which is not true, zamboanga still competes locally as well as globally.


Good... mabuting indication ang mga developments ng ZC. It is going into greater heights. But sa topic natin... your net income will vary year by year baya. Oo nga mataas kayo ngayon but baka next year baka lumiit o wala depende kasi sa projection and collection, kaya di ito indication, pwede siguro for the year na kinoconsider natin. :) :hug:

In addition to Acer statements.

when we think the system itself, we will find that theres a cycle on it..

Where do we get the gross income? from the taxes,right? so if we consider this we can say that this income comes from the pocket of the people... in which the gov. oath to render services out of this money...cun baga ito ang blood life..and from the services or through expenses, people will have another way of earning which will attribute to the gross income...again it goes back to gross income and so on... its a cycle...

Gov. system is like a business.

the gov. sustains out of the collection they get if and only if their gross income is greater than that they need other wise there is a loss...same as for business..

in business, you must invest first before you can rip...

so therefore, if the government of zamboanga spend their money to invest as what you said the result of the gross income will depend on the 35% net (this is zamboanga's percentage net income...

this will determine the potential of the city to prosper....

on the other hand, if you have 5% net then you see no matter how big you invest you will just raise only 5% percent of what you investment....it is all proportional...

in addition...zamboanga is less maintenance city... because the gov. are wise when spending money....maybe zamboanga has a plan why they are saving money...it is nice if we have savings if in case of natural calamities or etc...
rather than spending all money without seeing the future posibilities... this will remain a barren gov...

now... i understand why zamboanga opens up a freefort.
lots of barter trade with cheap products...its all for the people...

And despite of the impression "that zamboanga is not a safe place" which is not true, zamboanga still competes locally as well as globally.

lols

daming numbers

eh ang pinag uusapan lang naman is income (when acer said na zambo ang pinakamalaking income sa mindanao) to which i rebutted na its not necessarily true since if we speak of income (gross) davao has a larger income (and more money to dispose of for rendering services to the people)

ganito na lang

in terms of income, davao earns more but spends more (for its people and its projects) while zamboanga earns big too (in fact, nasa top 10 sa pinas) but saves more kasi di masyado nag s-spend :)

Koreans laud Zamboanga as one
of Philippines’ best golf courses http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5/2122/200/zgcsc_golfcourse2.jpg (http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5/2122/1600/zgcsc_golfcourse2.gif)

text HADER GLANG The golf course has a total land area of approximately 78 hectares. It is an 18-hole championship course, par 72, 6, 404 yards. The front 9 holes are layed-out on flat ground while the back 9 holes are over rolling terrain. Numerous varieties of trees provide demarcation for the fairways.(DOT-9)





“The golf in Calarian, Zamboanga City is one of the beautiful golf courses we have visited and played so far in the Philippines because of its challenging terrain.”
One of the Officials of Vodus Golf Korea asserted this on Sunday during their five-day visit to the Zamboanga Golf Course and Beach Park in Calarian, Zamboanga City.
They were among the four million Korean golfers who migrated to other countries due to lack of golf courses in their country.
“We only have around 220 golf courses to play upon in our country, thus the migration to other countries to accommodate the increasing number of players,” the official said.
"We lack golf courses to accommodate our players, and we like it here very much. The golf here is very good and there are only very few people in this city who plays golf," he added.
He said last month, there were at least 46 Koreans who visited Zamboanga City and played golf.
The Vodus Golf Korea officials vowed to bring in more Korean tourists and golfers to Calarian, Zamboanga City in the coming days.
They have also scheduled to bring the Korean tourists to the different tourist spots in this city before they return to Korea, it was learned from the Department of Tourism (DOT) regional office-9.(ZS)




posted by Zamboanga Southwall

Good... mabuting indication ang mga developments ng ZC. It is going into greater heights. But sa topic natin... your net income will vary year by year baya. Oo nga mataas kayo ngayon but baka next year baka lumiit o wala depende kasi sa projection and collection, kaya di ito indication, pwede siguro for the year na kinoconsider natin. :) :hug:

thats true but do not consider the future assumptions as your basis of developemnt... you must first gather all facts from the current time before you can make a right decssions for the future...

since this is the only fact we have this is the basis....

kung baga ito ang feasibilty study in the form of figures....


and peace......

thats true but do not consider the future assumptions as your basis of developemnt... you must first gather all facts from the current time before you can make a right decssions for the future...

since this is the only fact we have this is the basis....

kung baga ito ang feasibilty study in the form of figures....


and peace......

Peace...:)

JEJEJEJEJ


waway...
that'l be a good idea...
coz if we come to think, definitely everything is the same... wise spend and wise budget..ryt?

but of course other things would be differ is, that Nuestra Ciudad de Zamboanga has mush/more Assets...

assets would be another thing to be discuss... short, se un addicional puntos para la ciudad!:)

PAZ Amigo...

i would appreciate it though if you would communicate with me in english or tagalog

i do understand that this is the zamboanga thread and you may speak in chavacano if you like, pero out of courtesy, dapat pag alam mong di nakakaintindi ng chavacano ang kausap mo you should at least provide a translation

In addition to Acer statements.

when we think the system itself, we will find that theres a cycle on it..

Where do we get the gross income? from the taxes,right? so if we consider this we can say that this income comes from the pocket of the people... in which the gov. oath to render services out of this money...cun baga ito ang blood life..and from the services or through expenses, people will have another way of earning which will attribute to the gross income...again it goes back to gross income and so on... its a cycle...

Gov. system is like a business.

the gov. sustains out of the collection they get if and only if their gross income is greater than that they need other wise there is a loss...same as for business..

in business, you must invest first before you can rip...

so therefore, if the government of zamboanga spend their money to invest as what you said the result of the gross income will depend on the 35% net (this is zamboanga's percentage net income...

this will determine the potential of the city to prosper....

on the other hand, if you have 5% net then you see no matter how big you invest you will just raise only 5% percent of what you investment....it is all proportional...

in addition...zamboanga is less maintenance city... because the gov. are wise when spending money....maybe zamboanga has a plan why they are saving money...it is nice if we have savings if in case of natural calamities or etc...
rather than spending all money without seeing the future posibilities... this will remain a barren gov...

now... i understand why zamboanga opens up a freefort.
lots of barter trade with cheap products...its all for the people...

And despite of the impression "that zamboanga is not a safe place" which is not true, zamboanga still competes locally as well as globally.

Correcto..... LO APRBARON!!

not only that, we're been suppressed too... discriminized.... brutally!
especialemente those mediamen, when reporting they dont know how to report...

example:

MAL GUSTO OI y LEEIDA: zamboanga City Zamboanga Peninsula,Region-IX, another abusayf was capture in sulu...
w/c might give bad an impression to the reADERs, specially for the foriegner readers..

BUEN OIDA y LEEIDA: Reporting from Zamboanga City, another abusayaf was capture in Jolo, Sulu province,ARMM Region.

though zamboanga has no big malls like sm and other tall buildings as compare to other cities etc....yet still they recognize as fastest growing highly urbanized city... what if zamboanga having all of these? what it would be like?

though zamboanga has no big malls like sm and other tall buildings as compare to other cities etc....yet still they recognize as fastest growing highly urbanized city... what if zamboanga having all of these? what it would be like?

recognized by whom?

;18941495']recognized by whom?


Me...Hehehe. Well, I can say that Zamboanga City is one of the fastest growing cities. ^^

PIA Press Release
2008/02/14


Zambo, 5 others vie for "Best CPO Award"


Zamboanga City (February 14) -- Zamboanga City is one of the six highly urbanized cities in the country selected to vie for the "Best City Peace and Order" Council award, a search organized by the National Police Commission and the Department of Interior and Local Government.
As this developed, Mayor Celso Lobregat expressed elation over this development but stressed that the city government undertakes all efforts to help sustain the city's peace and order situation "without thinking of getting an award".
A three-man team, commissioned by the NAPOLCOM Manila was in the city yesterday to evaluate the performance of the Lobregat led City Peace and Order Council during the past years.
The team, led by Zenonida Brosas of the National Security Council called on Mayor Lobregat at City Hall yesterday morning where they also took the opportunity of asking questions regarding the city's support and assistance program for the Zamboanga City Police Office, the Task Force Zamboanga, City Fire Department, the City Reformatory Center and other law enforcement agencies under the DILG.
"Here in Zamboanga City we do everything possible without thinking of getting an award but if we win the award we would be very proud to receive it", Mayor Lobregat said.
Lobregat in his briefing before the team members emphasized the city's vigorous campaign to implement the gun ban, a practice that is being replicated by the local government units of the nearby provinces like Sulu and Basilan.
The mayor also informed the team about the relentless drive to correct the misimpression that Zamboanga City is a conflict area, which is merely brought about by the incorrect dateline attribution.
"We are a victim of bad and negative publicities", Lobregat said.
The city government has been all out in its support and assistance to the police and military ranging from transportation and communication facilities, infrastructure facilities including computer units and allowances to the police, firemen, jail personnel and aviation security personnel.
In 2007, the city turned over a 4x4 jeep each to the police and Task Force Zamboanga; 20 computer units; Smart handyphones to police sub-stations without telephone connections; and increased the monthly allowances for law enforcers.
Lobregat stressed that the support and assistance will continue in an effort to sustain peace and tranquility in Zamboanga.
Accompanying the evaluation team to City Hall yesterday morning were City Police Director Col. Manuel Barcena, Task Force Zamboanga Chief Col. Darwin Guerra, City DILG Director Pedro Cuevas, City Jail Warden Col. Pepito, City Fire Marshall Col. James Ramirez and other officials.
Councilor Abdurahman Nuno also joined the meeting and also talked about efforts of the barangay sector in helping maintain a stable peace and order situation in the city. The NAPOLCOM has selected Zamboanga as one of the finalists in the nationwide search based on the CPOC?s accomplishment report which is being submitted to the agency yearly through the DILG. (CIO/PIA 9-zc)

Me...Hehehe. Well, I can say that Zamboanga City is one of the fastest growing cities. ^^

No doubt about it...!!!:)

Me...Hehehe. Well, I can say that Zamboanga City is one of the fastest growing cities. ^^

me too...:lol::lol:

;18941408']i would appreciate it though if you would communicate with me in english or tagalog

i do understand that this is the zamboanga thread and you may speak in chavacano if you like, pero out of courtesy, dapat pag alam mong di nakakaintindi ng chavacano ang kausap mo you should at least provide a translation


se un addicional puntos para la ciudad!
-thats another points for the City...
-thats an additional points for the city.

casi, if we Zamboangueño will go to ur place we try our best to speak in tagalo mas que broken o utal-utal.. pero ustedes-"kayo po" mga tagalo dont! or any other estranjeros...
anyway....PEACE!:banana:


thats just the sentiments from one of the zamboangueño or any out there who's mother tounge is not tagalo...

;18941495']recognized by whom?


amigo waway..

Por los filipinos y entero paises - by the filipinos and the entire countries!:)

amigo waway..

Por los filipinos y entero paises - by the filipinos and the entire countries!:)


ahh

so parang personal opinion lang pala nung nag post :) i thought wends posted is as a fact

;18941955']ahh

so parang personal opinion lang pala nung nag post :) i thought wends posted is as a fact


no comentos mi amigo..
no comments my friend...

maybe she can answer your cuestion.:)

NOTE: Nacimiento del Idioma Chavacano es na Junio 23, 1635
1. Cosa el con todo viejo Criollo Lenguaje na entero mundo que derativa desde castillano y portuguese?
2. Cuantos criollos tiene que derativa de Castillano y Portuguese?
3. cual de esos el mas mejor de todo "well-develop"?
4. Cuantos dialectos tiene na Lenguaje Chavacano?
5. Cual de esos seis dialectos chavacano el una ya nace?
6. Donde ya nace el Lenguaje Chavacano?
7. Ciudad Natal del Lenguaje Chavacano?

Cosa/que-what
quien-who
cual-which
onde-where
donde/ de onde - from where
cuanto-how many/how much
quelaya/quilaya/quemodo-how
porque/por que-why

acer, sobra ka namn... prang walang galang sa opinion ng mga tao. try to be gentle naman... tsktsktsk! parang pinapakita mo na parang itchurang hinde edukado ang zamboangenous...

Me...Hehehe. Well, I can say that Zamboanga City is one of the fastest growing cities. ^^

ako rin pasali.. ^-^v

you're ryt... not war but peac.. entonces AMOR CON AMOR SE PAGA A TODOS USTEDES!

tha would be great....if all the signs, documents will be written agen in zamboangueño... even our nacional hymn...
and lastly nuestro Himno debe tambien implementa gayot y debe canta este cada antes el Hinmo Nacional... que debe canta el "Zamboanga Hermosa" cay este el de nuestro Himno de Zamboanga.

or Zamboanga City must become again as she is before, not part of the Phil. clic here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Zamboanga

ese mi deseo, tambien de tuyo.
thats my wish/dream, and also yours.


ive read that in zamboanga.com

the first president was Vicente alvarez.. ^-^v

here is my basis. :P
http://www.zamboanga.com/history/history_zamboanga.htm

acer, sobra ka namn... prang walang galang sa opinion ng mga tao. try to be gentle naman... tsktsktsk! parang pinapakita mo na parang itchurang hinde edukado ang zamboangenous...


Zamboangueños are well educated and very hospitable...

this is just my sentimientos...(who knows, theirs too)

NOTE:
To those only....not all!

if we zamboangueño will go to non-zamboangueño place, we're trying to adjust and or adopt their culture, tradicion, even to speaks with them to able to communicate or b with them as pakisama or be one of them... masque, tan tico ya el lengua! and if also these non-zamboangueño will go to our place, we still adjust ourselves to these people who cant even comprehend just a single word from us (to show courtesy)... but in return these people doesnt even try their best to be one of us too by adjusting themselves, be part of our culture and even try their best to speak our language.... am i totally wrong with my sentiments and opinions Señorito ChrisVenz? and if so, then crticize me...

anyway.... PAZ amigo!:)

Zamboangueños are well educated and very hospitable...

this is just my sentimientos...(who knows, theirs too)

NOTE:
To those only....not all!

if we zamboangueño will go to non-zamboangueño place, we're trying to adjust and or adopt their culture, tradicion, even to speaks with them to able to communicate or b with them as pakisama or be one of them... masque, tan tico ya el lengua! and if also these non-zamboangueño will go to our place, we still adjust ourselves to these people who cant even comprehend just a single word from us (to show courtesy)... but in return these people doesnt even try their best to be one of us too by adjusting themselves, be part of our culture and even try their best to speak our language.... am i totally wrong with my sentiments and opinions Señorito ChrisVenz? and if so, then crticize me...

anyway.... PAZ amigo!:)

i understand your sentiments acer pero maitanong ko lang

sakali pumunta ka ng germany (tapos di ka nakakaintindi ng german) tapos nag-uusap kayo ng isang german, sa umpisa english ang usapan nyo pero nung medyo nagtatalo na kayo, in german na siya kung kausapin ka (syempre wala kang naiintindihan)

how would you feel?

tama waway, duh... feeling ko tga WMSU si acer, kaya di kaya i accept ang PAGKATALO DITO SA DISCUSSION NA ITO!!! btw, kung edukado ka man acer, dapat your teacher taught you how to respect the decision even the opinion of every person. Satsat ka lang ng satsat! blahblah ka ng blahblah!!! haiz wala kang mgawa sa buhay mo..

peace bro!!!

tama waway, duh... feeling ko tga WMSU si acer, kaya di kaya i accept ang PAGKATALO DITO SA DISCUSSION NA ITO!!! btw, kung edukado ka man acer, dapat your teacher taught you how to respect the decision even the opinion of every person. Satsat ka lang ng satsat! blahblah ka ng blahblah!!! haiz wala kang mgawa sa buhay mo..

peace bro!!!

what are u trying to imply Chrisvenz?? WMSU people dont know how to accept defeat.? of course we are not, we are taught to have proper social values..values that we can treasure forever..

its not proper that you will undermine educational institutions, most especially if you know that your school is not also performing properly..

remember, ADZU still holds the distinction of being the breeding ground of maleducated individuals, inspite the fact that you are a sectarian school...

[quote=zoroethgenre_003;18965894]what are u trying to imply Chrisvenz?? WMSU people dont know how to accept defeat.? of course we are not, we are taught to have proper social values..values that we can treasure forever..

its not proper that you will undermine educational institutions, most especially if you know that your school is not also performing properly..

remember, ADZU still holds the distinction of being the breeding ground of maleducated individuals, inspite the fact that you are a sectarian school...

what are u trying to imply Chrisvenz?? WMSU people dont know how to accept defeat.? of course we are not, we are taught to have proper social values..values that we can treasure forever..

its not proper that you will undermine educational institutions, most especially if you know that your school is not also performing properly..

remember, ADZU still holds the distinction of being the breeding ground of maleducated individuals, inspite the fact that you are a sectarian school...



burado po mi....

what are u trying to imply Chrisvenz?? WMSU people dont know how to accept defeat.? of course we are not, we are taught to have proper social values..values that we can treasure forever..

its not proper that you will undermine educational institutions, most especially if you know that your school is not also performing properly..

remember, ADZU still holds the distinction of being the breeding ground of maleducated individuals, inspite the fact that you are a sectarian school...



YOU'RE right zOROE!

cHISVENZ... you want me to be direct?
well ok, il give it to you...

no labeling of scho0Ls students/products here po.. ^-^v

ngaUn q lng nalaman　ganyan pla ang tingin nla sa mga taga wmsu..
di ko lam yun ahh.. 　(-_- ")

anywayz~
taga wmsu rin ako.. (^_^")v　ピース~

hey! let me set it straight, were here to promote zambo, this is what this thread is all about, instead of putting down one another why dont you guys help by focusing in your own little way promoting our beloved city instead. The school doesnt matter what matters most is the thing inside your head. we are all zambo pips here ok. bare that in mind plsssssss:ohno:

hey! let me set it straight, were here to promote zambo, this is what this thread is all about, instead of putting down one another why dont you guys help by focusing in your own little way promoting our beloved city instead. The school doesnt matter what matters most is the thing inside your head. we are all zambo pips here ok. bare that in mind plsssssss :)

hey! let me set it straight, were here to promote zambo, this is what this thread is all about, instead of putting down one another why dont you guys help by focusing in your own little way promoting our beloved city instead. The school doesnt matter what matters most is the thing inside your head. we are all zambo pips here ok. bare that in mind plsssssss :)

Zambo dribblers join `Araw' cage tourney
ZAMBOANGA City has confirmed its participation to the 2008 Mayor RRD-Araw ng Dabaw Basketball Tournament on March 12 to 17 at the Davao City Recreation Center.

The Zamboanga squad will be bannered by Cris Concepcion, Darwin Cordero, Emrey Ramirez, Jomie Alvarez, Junie Navarro, David Sebastian, Tantan Parreño, Eter Chua, Jeffrey France, Ronald Saracho and two other big men that will be named soon by team manager Jun Navarro.


M. Lhuillier Kwarta Padala of Cebu City, Montaña Pawnshop Davao and Philippine Air Force have been invited to join the six-day event and another Davao squad, possibly a combined squad of the Duterte Agilas and Goldstar Hardware will be the fifth team.

Entrance is free at the DCRC and would be spectators are advised to follow the security measures to be implemented by the local authorities.

BIR launches 2008 tax campaign


THE Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR) has launched its Tax Campaign 2008 on Tuesday in Zamboanga City in a bid to meet if not surpass its target collection goal for this year.

Roberto Buocy, head of the Revenue District Office-93, said part of the campaign is the implementation of the taxpayer's account monitoring program to monitor payment of taxes by taxpayers.

Bucoy said through the program, they could determine who among the taxpayers are paying the right amount of taxes and who are not.

He said taxpayers found not paying the right amount of taxes will be placed under surveillance "to find out how much they are earning."

"That (monitoring program) is one of the major activities that we will undertake to be able to reach our target (collection)," Bucoy said in an interview.

BIR Regional Director Perla Bala said the target goal of Bucoy's office for this year is P1.2 billion, the highest among the six revenue district offices under her.

Bucoy is optimistic that his office could meet its target collection for this year.

Aside from Zamboanga City, Bucoy's office also covers four towns in nearby Zamboana Sibugay province namely Tungawan, R.T. Lim, Ipil and Titay.

Lawyer Emilio Aquino, the incoming head of the Philippine Institute of Certified Public Accountants (PICPA) Zamboanga-Basilan chapter, has pledged to help the BIR in meeting its target collection for this year. (Bong Garcia)

Zambo City mayor seeks bidding of P100-M worth of infra for March


Zamboanga City (4 March) -- City Mayor Celso Lobregat challenged the City Engineer's Office to submit P100 million worth of infrastructure projects for bidding this month with the ultimate goal of fast tracking the implementation of projects in the city.

At the same time, Lobregat urged the cooperation of the Bids and Awards Committee as well as the City Budget Office, the City Engineer's Office, the City Treasurer's Office and the City Accounting Office.

"The City Engineer's Office will need the support and cooperation of the BAC and the other concerned departments to ensure the swift implementation of the projects", the mayor declared during the flag raising ceremony of city government employees fronting City Hall yesterday.

The challenge is being issued in support of the present administration's thrust to undertake a massive implementation of infrastructure projects for the city's development and progress.

The projects he said would include farm to market roads, school buildings, multi-purpose buildings, covered court, riprap, shoreline protection, river control and other projects in the barangays.

In his state of the city address last January 17, Mayor Lobregat reported that the City Engineer's Office completed a total of 585 projects worth P318.4 million in 2007.

204 other projects worth P213.3 million were ongoing while another 127 projects worth P84.7 million were with the Procurement Acquisition and Awards Division (PAAD) undergoing the bidding process.

For 2008, Lobregat said P608 million or 36 percent of the budget has been appropriated for more projects and purchase of equipment.

The amount, he stressed is P259 million or 74 percent more than the 2007 capital outlay budget. :cheers:

;18941495']recognized by whom?

Of course for me, i strongly believe that zamboanga city is one of the

fastest growing cities in the Phil...and oh it is not an opinion as a matter

of fact. Below is a part of an article that i have read that says

the city is one of the fastest growing cities...

I don't think the author wrote this article without any basis. The author is

well aware that what he wrote will broadcast on the web and he will be using

the name of zamboanga as well as their business...

*******
Zamboanga City is one of the top 10 taxpayer to almighty Malacañang.

Zamboanga City is a revenue generator.
One of the fastest growing cities with the #1 GDP growth area in the

country - an unbelievable 7.2% in 2005! Wow!

Zamboanga City is the biggest fresh fish producer and of canned

sardines-it is the Sardines Capital of The Philippines

One of the largest coconut oil producer in the Philippines is located

here in the city.

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if you want to read the whole article go to this site:

http://www.zamboanga.com/midtown/midtown_body.htm

ahh ok

sa pagkasulat mo kasi, na "yet still they recognize as fastest growing highly urbanized city"

i thought you meant "the fastest growing"..

you meant "one of the fastest growing" pala :) for that i agree with you

and its not only one of the fastest growing, its also one of the most important :) :cheers:

It is not easy to build a new modern home without destroying the old one...

Zamboanga city as i see is doing a modern home that adheres the American

standard policies in building road network, infastructures, facilities,

especially job opportunities, etc...(Zambo Ecozone and freeport)

Zamboanga city knows how to sacrifice...They do not only know how to plant

but they know how to project things for the future...

They are not planting mongos that can be harvested for just a couple of days

but gain not so much, and also require replanting for the next harvest...

instead they are planting mangoes that can be harvested for about 5 years and
pays them a good fortune, and do not require replanting...

*************

The zone has two development sites. The First Development Site is composed of

the 64.70 hectare (1st Industrial Park) and the 664.68 hectare (2nd

Industrial Park). The Second Development Site on the other hand consists of

15, 391 hectares of highland, which is ideal for agro-forestry, eco-tourism,

high-end residential neighborhood, retirement and university villages and

information technology ventures.

*****

ZamboEcozone Chairman and Administrator Georgina P. Yu said that this project

will kick-off the realization of the long time dream of Zamboanga City, that

is, to have an international seaport facility being the only one in the

Visayas and Mindanao. An American firm had already expressed intention in

investing and building the world class port facility which will soon be

enjoyed by both the foreign and local locator investing in the zone.

*****

Indeed, the Zamboanga City Special Economic Zone has taken off on a dawdling

start but it has slowly but surely increased its pace with the entry of local

and foreign investors that believe in this project and what it stands for.

The availability of jobs has definitely given the Zamboangueños something to

look forward to and has given them hope for a better tomorrow. With Zamboanga

Freeport leading the way, the more than 600,000-resident population of the

city and the rest of Mindanao can all look forward to share in the bountiful

social and economic rewards that it can offer.:banana::banana::banana:

Go to these sites for complete information...

http://www.zambofreeport.com.ph/AboutUs.htm
http://www.zambofreeport.philippine.org/Newslink/web-content/e_newslink.html

*************

;18982608']ahh ok

sa pagkasulat mo kasi, na "yet still they recognize as fastest growing highly urbanized city"

i thought you meant "the fastest growing"..

you meant "one of the fastest growing" pala :) for that i agree with you

and its not only one of the fastest growing, its also one of the most important :) :cheers:


I didn't mention "in the phil" thats why i omit the one of the fastest growing... it is a modifier that describe the city without comparing other cities in the philippines...


peace...

"yet still they recognize as one of the fastest growing highly urbanized city in the philippines"...

peace...

I didn't mention "in the phil" thats why i omit "the one"... it is a modifier that describe the city without comparing other cities in the philippines...

I didn't mention "in the phil" thats why i omit "the one"... it is a modifier that describe the city without comparing other cities in the philippines...

medyo malabo kasi yung statement mo and is open to a lot of interpretation

if gusto mo sana i describe ang growth ng zamboana without comparing other cities, you could have said

" a fast growing city"

by virtue of saying "fastest" nag compare ka na kasi :) but even if you said "one of the fastest" des pues comparing it to other cities, i still agree din naman..ZC is among the fastest growing cities in the philippines IMO although wala gaanong nationally hyped big ticket projects like Iloilo, Bacolod and the other fast growing cities :)

Zamboanga City was, is and will remain one of the philippines most important cities :)

"yet still they recognize as fastest growing highly urbanized city"

which mean zamboanga includes among the fastest.... in the Philippines.

Don't you see there's no "the" after as and before fastest

-->yet still they recognize as "the" fastest growing highly urbanized city

-->yet still they recognize as "fastest growing highly urbanized city"

"fastest growing highly urbanized" this is to emphasize the "city"

in the statement i didn't compare cities... i just cited the "fastest growing highly urbanized city" from the what they say.

and

I didn't described the city by my own word...

This goes out to all.....

For heaven sake, we are here to promote Zamboanga city...not finding holes...This only shows that Pinoy really lives like a crab. can we all help one another as a pinoy?...

we've got only one Philippines...

if you don't know about zamboanga, ask?

and if you have idea about the place be sure it is pleasant....

And be thankful to acer, he is trying his best to teach Chavacano to those non-chavacano... and for those non-chavacano this is your chance to learn chavacano... the more dialects or languages you can speak the better... just like us, we can understand and speak several dialects and languages...


Lets cut this issue right here....
this is going no where....

Promote.............
Promote.............
Promote.............


Paz...

peace...

"yet still they recognize as fastest growing highly urbanized city"

Just an opinion no reply is needed:

This is superlative... no one.. nothing...not even at par... sans rival... leaving Cebu, Manila and other highly urbanized cities behind.:)

parang mali nga pakinggan ang "yet still they recognize as fastest growing highly urbanized city"..im not an expert sa grammar but parang may kulang

either you say "yet still they recognize as the fastest growing highly urbanized city" or "yet still they recognize as one of the fastest growing highly urbanized city"

by virtue of saying fastest nag compare ka na po :) fastest in comparison to what (yan ang maaring pwedeng tanong) so better complete the message by adding either "the" (if you mean it is the fastest or "one of the" if it is among the fastest :)

kaya nga yung message na na quote mo says


Zamboanga City is a revenue generator.
One of the fastest growing cities with the #1 GDP growth area in the


eto ang kumpleto at klaro :) at agree din naman ako

i agree that we are here to promote zamboanga, wouldnt it be better if yung pag promote natin may basis at factual? di ko naman sinisira ang zamboanga ah, were just discussing things here anyway..wala namang siraan at pag pull down


And be thankful to acer, he is trying his best to teach Chavacano to those non-chavacano... and for those non-chavacano this is your chance to learn chavacano... the more dialects or languages you can speak the better... just like us, we can understand and speak several dialects and languages...

wala naman akong reklamo dun, ang request ko lang naman is dagdagan nya ng translation..paano naman ako makakaintindi kung walang translation aber?

itatanong ko sa iyo ang tinanong ko kay acer a few pages back..



sakali pumunta ka ng germany (tapos di ka nakakaintindi ng german) tapos nag-uusap kayo ng isang german, sa umpisa english ang usapan nyo pero nung medyo nagtatalo na kayo, in german na siya kung kausapin ka (syempre wala kang naiintindihan)

how would you feel?

;18983215']

sakali pumunta ka ng germany (tapos di ka nakakaintindi ng german) tapos nag-uusap kayo ng isang german, sa umpisa english ang usapan nyo pero nung medyo nagtatalo na kayo, in german na siya kung kausapin ka (syempre wala kang naiintindihan)

how would you feel?


kung nagtatalo na kayo syempre hind nakakaintindihan... how would you feel?

yun ang mafifeel mo...

kung nagtatalo na kayo syempre hind nakakaintindihan... how would you feel?

yun ang mafifeel mo...

:rofl:

Zamboanga City is a revenue generator.
One of the fastest growing cities with the #1 GDP growth area in the...

Agree din ako 101%...:okay:

Go..go ZC ^^

Orphan from Zambo tops PMA Baghawi class (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/84473/Orphan-from-Zambo-tops-PMA-Baghawi-class)
03/12/2008 | 02:38 PM

PILAR, Baguio City – An orphan from Zamboanga City is this year’s valedictorian of the Philippine Military Academy’s Baghawi Class composed of 197 men and 23 women.

Cadet First Class Ariel G. Rallos of Limon Drive, Canelar Triplett in Zamboanga City will receive the Presidential Saber Award, PGMA Achievement Award for Excellence, Philippine Navy Sword, Jusmag Award and five other citations and plaques during PMA’s graduation rites on March 18.

Rallos, 26, lost his father when he was still in high school. His mother died in 2005.

“Dedication and the will to excel are what brought me here," he said in an interview.

Rallos obtained his BS Physics diploma from the Western Mindanao University before entering the country’s premiere military academy.

The 2006 top PMA graduate, Air Force Lt. Ariel Toledo of the Mandala Class, was also an orphan. Toledo himself died of liver last September.

The Baghawi class salutatorian is Bernard Roderick Joaquin from Aguilar, Pangasinan. He will receive the Vice Presidential Saber and the Philippine Air Force Award for being the top Air Force recruit.

Third in the class is Me-Ann Sinson of Ligao City, Albay, the only woman cadet in the Top 10. She is joining the Air Force.

Dennis T. Legaspi of Zamboanga Sibugay is fourth, getting the Philippine Army Saber.

After graduation, Rallos, Joaquin and Legaspi will pursue further studies in the United States as part of their Jusmag awards.

Vergel Lacambra of Pagadian City comes fifth and Carlo Catalan of Dumaguete City is on the sixth place.

Others in the top 10 are: Francisco Pondoyo Jr of Zamboanga del Sur; Marc Louis Parado of Baliuag, Bulacan; Dennis Moreno of Banga, South Cotabato; and, Vay Caballero of Cagayan de Oro City.

PMA Superintendent Maj. Gen. Leopoldo Maligalig said the top graduates were chosen for their academic records as well as physical and sports training, military science training and character development program. - GMANews.TV

what are u trying to imply Chrisvenz?? WMSU people dont know how to accept defeat.? of course we are not, we are taught to have proper social values..values that we can treasure forever..

its not proper that you will undermine educational institutions, most especially if you know that your school is not also performing properly..

remember, ADZU still holds the distinction of being the breeding ground of maleducated individuals, inspite the fact that you are a sectarian school...

just want to comment on ADZU holding the distinction of being the breeding ground of maleducated individuals... Any statistics, results, studies, and the like to validate such claim? if u can't show any, then u r no different from chrisvenz.

peace...;)

to the latest update... its not anymore 600,000.....
as of 2004, we're already 850,000 people leaving in Zamboanga City.... 70% are the Zamboangueño speakers... sadly, went down from 650,000... cay mucho ya quien ta anda alli na zamboanga city...

favor hace clic aqui..
pls click here...

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En mi Lenguaje nativo:
lo menos de dos semana que viene es nuestro dia de semana santa pero antes hay llega ese dia, yo quiere habla.... perdoname na mi mana mal juzgada o culpa y especialmente por aquelllos quien ya senti ofendido....

Ingles Version:
in my native language:
few days from now its our "semana santa" but before that day will come, i'll just want to say: "pls forgive me to ol my bad judgement and most specially to those who feel offended.

mi rezo para con vosotros...
my prayers for you...

en la nombre de tata, del hijo y del espiritu santo..
Dios todopoderoso, creador del tierra y del cielo
nosotros eres bien pecador y no hay ni un segundo que nosotros hende ta comete el mana pecado, Dios mio, favor perdona de nuestro mana pecado y no deja con nosotros hay cae na tentacion sino ensiguidas con nosotros libra de mal. Amen.

Ingles Version:
Our almighty God, Creator of heaven and Earth.
we're very sinful and no seconds in our life that we do commit sins. my God, pls forgive our sins and do not let us fall from temptation but to always deliver us from evil.Amen.

mis amigos....
el bandera de nuestra pais antes.(the flag of our country before)
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Republica de Zamboanga
Presidente: Vicente Alvarez

good luck acer... i like how u promote zamboanga city. :)

just want to comment on ADZU holding the distinction of being the breeding ground of maleducated individuals... Any statistics, results, studies, and the like to validate such claim? if u can't show any, then u r no different from chrisvenz.

peace...;)

dont need statistics to validate the claim...go here in Zamboanga, try to ask young people here..they will reveal to you which school serves as haven of maleducated individuals..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_City

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_creole

Mayor hails PMA for continuing education

Mayor Celso Lobregat has highly praised the Philippine Medical Association for continually acquiring new strategies and approaches to meet the complex demands in patient care.

In a message before some 200 participants to the PMA Regional Assembly for Western Mindanao last Sunday, Lobregat described the gathering as very timely and appropriate at this time when many challenges beset the medical profession in the country.

“I am confident that this assembly will be the best forum where you share, discuss and plan strategies and approaches on how to best meet the increasingly complex health demands of our people”, the mayor told the physicians.

The PMA Regional Assembly, themed “Nagkakaisang Manggagamot Tungo sa Kalusugan ng Sambayanan”, was hosted by the Zamboanga City Medical Society, a component of the PMA, and was held at the Garden Orchid Hotel. Dr. Nida Tan, is the PMA Governor for Western Mindanao .

The assembly brought together doctors of varied medical specialties from the different component societies in Region 9 such as Zamboanga City , Basilan, Tawi-tawi, Zamboanga del Sur and Zamboanga del Norte.

PMA officials from Manila graced the day long assembly, they included PMA president Jose Asa Sabili, MD; PMA Vice President Rey Melchor Santos, MD; PMA-CME Commissioner Alberto de Leon, MD and PMA Secretary General Oscar Tinio, MD.

Topics discussed during the assembly included the Illegal Detention of Patients Law; Medical Ethics hurdling legal obstacles in Medical practice, Cheaper Medicine law, Pelvic Inflammatory Disease and Inflammatory Issues among others. — SEC

Zamboanga: Latin City of Asia
March 8th, 2008 · No Comments

Zamboanga
El orgullo de Mindanao, which means “the pride of Mindanao” in the Spanish derivative language spoken in Zamboanga City, is located on the southernmost tip of the Zamboanga Peninsula 850 kilometers south of Manila. It is bounded on the east by the Moro Gulf, on the west by the Sulu Sea and on the south by the Celebes Sea and the Basilan Strait. Its proud Chavacano speaking residents affectionately refer to the only Latin city in Asia, which they call home, as Zamboanga hermosa, or beautiful Zamboanga for good reason. In the olden days before the arrival of the Spaniards, the Subanon highlanders called the place “Jambangan,” which means “Garden” or a place blooming with plenty of flowers. Later, their boat dwelling descendants called Badjaos and Samals transliterated the word to “Samboangan,” which was corrupted to its present place name of “Zamboanga.”

Curiously, despite its exotic sounding name that is rooted on the Bahasa Sug, a strain of Austronesian language that is now spoken by over one million people in the Sulu Archipelago, Zamboanga City presents as a pocket of Castillian influence and culture in the heart of Muslim Mindanao. More interesting still is that the Chavacano language spoken by most of its residents is actually a Spanish creole which has an ifluence with local dialects, making it a place unlike any other in the country. To better appreciate this cultural paradox, we need to travel back in time to the 13th century when this coastal settlement became a barter trading post among its native Subanons, Samals, Badjaos, Tausugs and the Chinese-Malays from the nearby islands in Southeast Asia. By the time the first Spanish galley appeared on the horizon off Caldera Bay in 1593, Zamboanga was already a major trading center with a vibrant economy and a culture of its own.

It was in this place that the Spanish colonialists staked the Cross enabling Christianity to gain a foothold in Mindanao. To preserve their presence in the area, they built Fort Pilar in 1635 around which the city eventually grew. While Spain was never able to subjugate the rest of the island of Mindanao and the Sulu Archipelago because of the strong influence of Islam, the heavy influx of Spanish nationals in Zamboanga during their colonization efforts that lasted until the end of the 19th century has resulted in the growth of the Spanish Creole language that is now popularly known as Chavacano langauge.

The economy of Zamboanga today is largely agro-aqua culture based that provide livelihood and income to more than seventy percent of its population. Its biggest produce is coconut, corn, fish and is the country’s principal producer of carageenan, or sea weeds. The city is also pretty well-known for its sardine and canning industries whose famous brands cater to the domestic and foreign markets in the US, Europe and Asia.

Its robust fishing industry is supported by the fishing barangays in twenty-eight islands off the mainland coast that fall under the political and administrative jurisdiction of the city. The most popular of these islands among locals, tourists and scuba divers are the Santa Cruz islands because of their exquisite pink coral sands.

What to See in Zamboanga
Fort Pilar: A must-see for first time visitors, this ancient fortress is a fifteen- minute walk from the City Hall along NS Valderrosa Street. It was originally built in 1635 by Father Melchor de Vera to ward off foreign invaders and intrusions from pirates. From the protection of this Spanish fortification, the present City of Zamboanga grew to what it is today.

Pasonanca Park: Located about 7.5 kilometers from the city proper, this world-renowned tourist attraction that lies 500 feet above sea level is dubbed as the “Little Baguio” of the south because of its cool air and cleanliness of surroundings. The verdant mountains and hills that surround the park make it the perfect venue for camping and scouting jamborees.

Exquisite Beaches: A favorite destination of scuba divers and snorkelers are the pink coral-sand beaches of the Sta. Cruz islands off the Zamboanga mainland which are teeming with sea life. The adventurous visitor would certainly be surprised to learn that the surrounding Sulu Sea holds more than half of the world’s known shell species.

Where to Eat in Zamboanga
Like the city’s culture and language, Zamboanga cuisine is a delicious mix of Iberian and local flavors. Food names still reflect vestiges of their Spanish origin such as callos de andalucia or arroz valenciana. Because of its proximity to the sea and robust fishing industry, there is an abundance of fresh sea food at prices you can afford. A sea food outing is something you should not miss when in Zambaonga where a serving of the fabled “curacha,” or red frog crab will take your culinary experience to new heights.

La Vista Del Mar: About six kilometers out of town along the West Coast Highway, you’d find this elegant outdoor sea food restaurant that offers good food with a great view of the sea complemented with its décor of vinta sail boats. Try its roasted freshly harvested prawns served on bamboo trays or grilled milk fish called “bangus” with a dipping of soy sauce, mild vinegar and chili.

Hai San Sea Food Market & Restaurant: Located along San Jose Road, this unique sea food restaurant allows its customers to pick their choice of fresh sea catch contained in shallow containers before these are brought to the kitchen. The fresh catch include the famous “curacha,” lobsters and “lapu-lapu,” or groupers.

Alavar Sea Food Restaurant: Along Don Alfaro Street, you’d find one of the most popular sea food restaurants in the city. Alavar is just about one of the few places where the young and the young at heart will not only get to taste excellent sea food, but the original Spanish Creole recipes as well that evoke memories of Zamboanga’s colorful past.

Where to Stay in Zamboanga

Grand Astoria Hotel: With standard rooms priced at P650.00 equipped with air conditioning, ref, telephone, cable TV and hot and cold shower, this hotel is perfect for budget travelers and backpackers

Jaldon Street
Telephone. No.: (62) 991-2510
Email: infor@grandastoria.com
Website: http://www.grandastoria.com

Lantaka by the Sea Hotel: This standard class hotel offers reasonable priced standard air conditioned rooms which start at P1,320.00. But what is particularly extraordinary about this place is located on the paved area by the wharf behind the hotel. Here, you will find colorful vinta sail boats and stalls of the Badjao sea gypsies, one of the original people who settled Zamboanga. The Badjaos offer various decorative items and trinkets fashioned out of materials harvested from the sea. The most common are pearls that have been stringed into necklaces or fashioned into ear rings. While a set of these can be bought at ridiculously low prices, the real bargain lies in your experience of having bought these right off the hands of a Badjao diver who retrieved these gems from the bottom of the sea and which he crafted himself into jewelry with a story to tell.

Valderrosa St.
Tel.No.: (6362) 991-2033

Garden Orchid Hotel: Equipped with air conditioning, cable TV, NDD/IDD telepnone, hot and cold showers, the price for standard rooms start at P1,736.00. This hotel is highly recommended for businessmen in search for luxury and who wish to live within striking distance from every major place or facility in the city. It’s also an excellent place to rub elbows and be seen with affluent Chavacanos who frequent the hotel.

Gov. Camins Avenue
Tel. Nos.: (6362) 991-0031 up to 34

How to Get to Zamboanga

Manila to Zamboanga and Back: The fastest way to get to Zamboanga from Manila is by plane. Philippine Airlines, Cebu Pacific and Air Philippines have daily flights that can whisk you away to the Latin City of Asia in about one hour and thirty-five minutes for a round trip plane fare of about P8,000.00. If you choose to travel by sea you can board a ferry in Manila and sail to Zamboanga City at a travel time of approximately 45 hours. A round trip ticket for a super value non-air conditioned bunk will cost you about P2,600.00.

Cebu to Zamboanga and Back: If you want to get there pronto, hop on a Cebu Pacific flight bound for Zamboanga City. A round trip plane fare will cost you about P4,000.00 and travel time is approximately one hour and twenty-five minutes. If you are on a tight budget, you may want to travel aboard the Super Ferry which regularly leaves Cebu bound for Zamboanga City. A round trip super value boat fare for a non-air conditioned bunk is about P2,100.00 and travel time is approximately 19 hours.

Dumaguete to Zamboanga and Back: Board the Oceanjet fast craft that leaves Dumaguete at 2:20 PM bound for Cebu via Tagbilaran. A round trip boat fare would cost you P1,600.00 and travel time is approximately 4 hours. Upon reaching Cebu, you can either fly or sail to Zamboanga City depending on your budget and time. The cheapest option is to take the Oceanjet fast craft that sails from Dumaguete directly to Dapitan for P520.00 (one way). From Dapitan, take a bus going to nearby Dipolog City 14 kilometers away. From there, travel overland to Zamboanga City aboard the Rural Transit. The cost of the bus fare is about P500.00 (one way) and travel time is approximately 8 hours.

dont need statistics to validate the claim...go here in Zamboanga, try to ask young people here..they will reveal to you which school serves as haven of maleducated individuals..

so, are these young people u r referring to representative of the whole of zamboanga? i wonder if u know that importance of statistics in establishing generalizations. actually, i am one with waway to request from those whoever wishes to post some info to at least back it up with some reliable sources, references, etc.

peace...

p.s. should i ask young people from wmsu and udez? well, what answer should i expect from these respondents? also, who are these young people who should be asked regarding the matter if these are not wmsu and udez?for all we know, wmsu might and again, i say MIGHT come in first and then followed by udez...hehe

dont need statistics to validate the claim...go here in Zamboanga, try to ask young people here..they will reveal to you which school serves as haven of maleducated individuals..

so, are these young people u r referring to representative of the whole of zamboanga? i wonder if u know the importance of statistics in establishing generalizations. actually, i am one with waway to request from those whoever wishes to post some info to at least back it up with some reliable sources, references, etc.

peace...

p.s. should i ask young people from wmsu and udez? well, what answer should i expect from these respondents? also, who are these young people who should be asked regarding the matter if these are not wmsu and udez students?for all we know, wmsu might and again, i say MIGHT come in first and then followed by udez...hehe

NOTE: Nacimiento del Idioma Chavacano es na Junio 23, 1635
1. Cosa el con todo viejo Criollo Lenguaje na entero mundo que derativa desde castillano y portuguese?
-what is the oldest creole language in the entire world that derived from spanish and portuguese?

2. Cuantos criollos tiene que derativa de Castillano y Portuguese?
-how many creole languages that derived from spanish & potuguese?

3. cual de estos el mas mejor de todo ?
-which of these creole are more/well develop?

4. Cuantos dialectos tiene na Lenguaje Chavacano?
-how many dialects are there in the Chavacano language?

5. Cual de estos seis dialectos chavacano el una ya nace?
-which of these six dialects was born first?

6. Donde ya nace el Lenguaje Chavacano?
-where did the chavacano langauge was born?

7. Ciudad Natal del Lenguaje Chavacano?
-birth place of Chavacano language?

Cosa/que-what
quien-who
cual-which
onde-where
donde/ de onde - from where
cuanto-how many/how much
quelaya/quilaya/quemodo-how
porque/por que-why

Chavacano es un Iberiano lenguaje, el solamente idioma criollo español na entero asia y el solamente idioma na filipinas que hende miembro de la Familia Astronesiano.

Do you know?

"Cosa" in spanish means "Thing"
"Cosa" in chavacano means "Thing" or "What"
"Cosa" in Italian means "What" to0....

also..
"di/de" in chabacano means "of" or "from" (ex: di mio nombre. de onde tu? )
"di" in Italian also means "of" or "from"

Co0L isnt it?

^-^v i just love my language~

Do you know?

"Cosa" in spanish means "Thing"
"Cosa" in chavacano means "Thing" or "What"
"Cosa" in Italian means "What" to0....

also..
"di/de" in chabacano means "of" or "from" (ex: di mio nombre. de onde tu? )
"di" in Italian also means "of" or "from"

Co0L isnt it?

^-^v i just love my language~

yes... indeed! thats why in wikipedia en Chavcano de Zamboanga, Chavacano is define as "Chavacano language is an iberian language, a spanish creole evolved and derived from spanish with influences from european, mexican-indian langauges family and philippines astronesian."

"Languages that influences the Chavacano language"

European:
Castellano
Italiano
others

Maxican-indian family: Lexicon
Mexican-indian
Nahaut'l.
Quebec
other native from latin america

Philippines Astronesian: as for the grammatical structures and lexicon
tagalog
bisaya
ilongo
yakan
tausug
sama-bangingi
Subanon
and others

yes... indeed! thats why in wikipedia en Chavcano de Zamboanga, Chavacano is define as "Chavacano language is an iberian language, a spanish creole evolved and derived from spanish with influences from european, mexican-indian langauges family and philippines astronesian."

"Languages that influences the Chavacano language"

European:
Castellano
Italiano
others

Maxican-indian family: Lexicon
Mexican-indian
Nahaut'l.
Quebec
other native from latin america

Philippines Astronesian: as for the grammatical structures and lexicon
tagalog
bisaya
ilongo
yakan
tausug
sama-bangingi
Subanon
and others


yeah thats why its co0L~. hehe

Cadet from Zamboanga tops PMA grads


Of the ten members of ‘Bagong Halaw ng Lahi’ Class in the roster of merit, one is a female cadet

By Harley F. Palangchao Correspondent

FORT DEL Pilar, Baguio: A 26-year-old cadet from Zamboanga City will
graduate as valedictorian of the 220-strong members of the Philippine Military Academy Baghawi (Bagong Halaw ng Lahi) Class of 2008.

Navy Cadet Ariel G. Rallos of Limon Drive, Canelar Triplett, Zamboanga City, the topnotcher, will also receive the Presidential Saber and the PGMA Achievement Award for Excellence from President Gloria Arroyo. The President will be the guest of honor and speaker during the ceremony to be held at the Borromeo Field on March 18.

Rallos will also receive the Philippine Navy Sword, the JUSMAG (Joint United States Military Advisory Group) Award, the Aguinaldo Saber, the Academic Group Award, the Mathematics and Natural Sciences plaques and the Department of Tactical Officers plaque.

Air Force cadet Bernard Roderick A. Joaquin, 22-year-old from Aguilar, Pangasinan, is class salutatorian and he will received the Vice Presidential Saber, the Philippine Air Force Saber, Tactics Group and JUSMAG Awards.

It was only late after the press conference Wednesday that some journalists learned that Joaquin is the younger brother of now Army 1st Lt. Rolly Joaquin, the valedictorian of PMA Class 2004.

Filipino women have all reasons to be happy this Women’s Month celebration as one of the 23 graduating cadettes, Air Force cadette Me-ann P. Sinson of Bagumbayan, Ligao City, Albay is third in the over all roll of merits.

Sinson, the only female in the top 10 list, will also receive the Secretary of National Defense Saber and Air Force Professional Courses plaque.

The graduation will be one of the happiest moments in the life of Army cadet Dennis T. Legaspi of Ipil, Zamboanga City, who ranked fourth in the over all roll of merits, if his separated parents will reunite on March 18.

“My parents are separated and how I wish both of them attend the graduation. It would be one of the happiest moments in my life,” said Legaspi, who abandoned his civil engineering course at the Mindanao State University in Iligan when he entered PMA four years ago.

Legaspi, the youngest of three siblings, shared that his parents had separated as soon as he entered PMA. He said his older brother, now currently a security guard in Legaspi, dropped his schooling due to financial constraints while his older sister is now married.

PMA superintendent, M/Gen. Leopoldo Maligalig, told reporters that each of the cadets have compelling stories and anecdotes to share, experiences that inspired and challenged them to finished their rigid military training.

Named fifth in the class is Army cadet Vergel U. Lacambra of Pagadian City, who will also receive the Humanities, Management, Social Sciences and Army Professional Courses plaques. Above that, he is also the recepient of the PMA Journalism Award.

Ranked sixth is Army Cadet Carlo L. Catalan of Dumaquete City while the Army Cadet Francisco B. Pondoyo Jr. of Zamboanga del Sur ranked seventh and he will received the Association of Generals and Flag Officer (AGFO) award.

Army cadet Marc Louie Parado of Sta. Barbara, Baliuag, Bulacan ranked eighth in the class while Dennis Moreno of Banga, South Cotabato ranked ninth, with Army cadet Vay L. Caballero of Lapasan, Cagayan de Oro City completing the top 10.

Out of the 220-strong members of the PMA Class 2008, 119 will join the Army service, 57 in the Navy and 44 in the Air Force.

Some 11,064 applicants across the country’s archipelago took the PMA entrance examination four years ago but only 197 made it to PMA Class 2008.
--Harley F. Palangchao

The Manila Times (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2008/mar/13/yehey/prov/20080313pro1.html)

Cadet from Zamboanga tops PMA grads


Of the ten members of ‘Bagong Halaw ng Lahi’ Class in the roster of merit, one is a female cadet

By Harley F. Palangchao Correspondent

FORT DEL Pilar, Baguio: A 26-year-old cadet from Zamboanga City will
graduate as valedictorian of the 220-strong members of the Philippine Military Academy Baghawi (Bagong Halaw ng Lahi) Class of 2008.

Navy Cadet Ariel G. Rallos of Limon Drive, Canelar Triplett, Zamboanga City, the topnotcher, will also receive the Presidential Saber and the PGMA Achievement Award for Excellence from President Gloria Arroyo. The President will be the guest of honor and speaker during the ceremony to be held at the Borromeo Field on March 18.

Rallos will also receive the Philippine Navy Sword, the JUSMAG (Joint United States Military Advisory Group) Award, the Aguinaldo Saber, the Academic Group Award, the Mathematics and Natural Sciences plaques and the Department of Tactical Officers plaque.

Air Force cadet Bernard Roderick A. Joaquin, 22-year-old from Aguilar, Pangasinan, is class salutatorian and he will received the Vice Presidential Saber, the Philippine Air Force Saber, Tactics Group and JUSMAG Awards.

It was only late after the press conference Wednesday that some journalists learned that Joaquin is the younger brother of now Army 1st Lt. Rolly Joaquin, the valedictorian of PMA Class 2004.

Filipino women have all reasons to be happy this Women’s Month celebration as one of the 23 graduating cadettes, Air Force cadette Me-ann P. Sinson of Bagumbayan, Ligao City, Albay is third in the over all roll of merits.

Sinson, the only female in the top 10 list, will also receive the Secretary of National Defense Saber and Air Force Professional Courses plaque.

The graduation will be one of the happiest moments in the life of Army cadet Dennis T. Legaspi of Ipil, Zamboanga City, who ranked fourth in the over all roll of merits, if his separated parents will reunite on March 18.

“My parents are separated and how I wish both of them attend the graduation. It would be one of the happiest moments in my life,” said Legaspi, who abandoned his civil engineering course at the Mindanao State University in Iligan when he entered PMA four years ago.

Legaspi, the youngest of three siblings, shared that his parents had separated as soon as he entered PMA. He said his older brother, now currently a security guard in Legaspi, dropped his schooling due to financial constraints while his older sister is now married.

PMA superintendent, M/Gen. Leopoldo Maligalig, told reporters that each of the cadets have compelling stories and anecdotes to share, experiences that inspired and challenged them to finished their rigid military training.

Named fifth in the class is Army cadet Vergel U. Lacambra of Pagadian City, who will also receive the Humanities, Management, Social Sciences and Army Professional Courses plaques. Above that, he is also the recepient of the PMA Journalism Award.

Ranked sixth is Army Cadet Carlo L. Catalan of Dumaquete City while the Army Cadet Francisco B. Pondoyo Jr. of Zamboanga del Sur ranked seventh and he will received the Association of Generals and Flag Officer (AGFO) award.

Army cadet Marc Louie Parado of Sta. Barbara, Baliuag, Bulacan ranked eighth in the class while Dennis Moreno of Banga, South Cotabato ranked ninth, with Army cadet Vay L. Caballero of Lapasan, Cagayan de Oro City completing the top 10.

Out of the 220-strong members of the PMA Class 2008, 119 will join the Army service, 57 in the Navy and 44 in the Air Force.

Some 11,064 applicants across the country’s archipelago took the PMA entrance examination four years ago but only 197 made it to PMA Class 2008.
--Harley F. Palangchao

The Manila Times (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2008/mar/13/yehey/prov/20080313pro1.html)


I salute you sir..

^^:applause::applause::applause:

^^ :bow: :master:

Cadet from Zamboanga tops PMA grads


Of the ten members of ‘Bagong Halaw ng Lahi’ Class in the roster of merit, one is a female cadet

By Harley F. Palangchao Correspondent

FORT DEL Pilar, Baguio: A 26-year-old cadet from Zamboanga City will
graduate as valedictorian of the 220-strong members of the Philippine Military Academy Baghawi (Bagong Halaw ng Lahi) Class of 2008.

Navy Cadet Ariel G. Rallos of Limon Drive, Canelar Triplett, Zamboanga City, the topnotcher, will also receive the Presidential Saber and the PGMA Achievement Award for Excellence from President Gloria Arroyo. The President will be the guest of honor and speaker during the ceremony to be held at the Borromeo Field on March 18.

Rallos will also receive the Philippine Navy Sword, the JUSMAG (Joint United States Military Advisory Group) Award, the Aguinaldo Saber, the Academic Group Award, the Mathematics and Natural Sciences plaques and the Department of Tactical Officers plaque.

Air Force cadet Bernard Roderick A. Joaquin, 22-year-old from Aguilar, Pangasinan, is class salutatorian and he will received the Vice Presidential Saber, the Philippine Air Force Saber, Tactics Group and JUSMAG Awards.

It was only late after the press conference Wednesday that some journalists learned that Joaquin is the younger brother of now Army 1st Lt. Rolly Joaquin, the valedictorian of PMA Class 2004.

Filipino women have all reasons to be happy this Women’s Month celebration as one of the 23 graduating cadettes, Air Force cadette Me-ann P. Sinson of Bagumbayan, Ligao City, Albay is third in the over all roll of merits.

Sinson, the only female in the top 10 list, will also receive the Secretary of National Defense Saber and Air Force Professional Courses plaque.

The graduation will be one of the happiest moments in the life of Army cadet Dennis T. Legaspi of Ipil, Zamboanga City, who ranked fourth in the over all roll of merits, if his separated parents will reunite on March 18.

“My parents are separated and how I wish both of them attend the graduation. It would be one of the happiest moments in my life,” said Legaspi, who abandoned his civil engineering course at the Mindanao State University in Iligan when he entered PMA four years ago.

Legaspi, the youngest of three siblings, shared that his parents had separated as soon as he entered PMA. He said his older brother, now currently a security guard in Legaspi, dropped his schooling due to financial constraints while his older sister is now married.

PMA superintendent, M/Gen. Leopoldo Maligalig, told reporters that each of the cadets have compelling stories and anecdotes to share, experiences that inspired and challenged them to finished their rigid military training.

Named fifth in the class is Army cadet Vergel U. Lacambra of Pagadian City, who will also receive the Humanities, Management, Social Sciences and Army Professional Courses plaques. Above that, he is also the recepient of the PMA Journalism Award.

Ranked sixth is Army Cadet Carlo L. Catalan of Dumaquete City while the Army Cadet Francisco B. Pondoyo Jr. of Zamboanga del Sur ranked seventh and he will received the Association of Generals and Flag Officer (AGFO) award.

Army cadet Marc Louie Parado of Sta. Barbara, Baliuag, Bulacan ranked eighth in the class while Dennis Moreno of Banga, South Cotabato ranked ninth, with Army cadet Vay L. Caballero of Lapasan, Cagayan de Oro City completing the top 10.

Out of the 220-strong members of the PMA Class 2008, 119 will join the Army service, 57 in the Navy and 44 in the Air Force.

Some 11,064 applicants across the country’s archipelago took the PMA entrance examination four years ago but only 197 made it to PMA Class 2008.
--Harley F. Palangchao

CONGRATULATIONS!!

Navy Cadet Ariel G. Rallos

VALEDECTORIAN, BAGONG HALAW NG LAHI CLASS OF THE PHILIPPINE MILITARY ACADEMY

PRESIDENTIAL SABER AWARDEE

PGMA AWARDEE FOR EXCELLENCE

ENHORABUENA CONTIGO
SEñOR CADETE NAVAL ARIEL G. RALLOS!

hi! plz inquire the list of UPCAT passers in the diffferent high schools here in zamboanga city...my aunt is requesting for that....most probably kac kung san madami pumapasa sa UPCAT duon kmi mag-high school...i've heard dat claret school of zamboanga has 7 UPcat passers, chonghua 1, st joseph 1....we want a complete list

hi! plz inquire the list of UPCAT passers in the diffferent high schools here in zamboanga city...my aunt is requesting for that....most probably kac kung san madami pumapasa sa UPCAT duon kmi mag-high school...i've heard dat claret school of zamboanga has 7 UPcat passers, chonghua 1, st joseph 1....we want a complete list

^^halo twilight, ive search for it but to no avail, ang posted lang ay mga names and respective campuses for the said passers ang nakalagay:).....

Orphan from Zambo tops PMA Baghawi class (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/84473/Orphan-from-Zambo-tops-PMA-Baghawi-class)
03/12/2008 | 02:38 PM

PILAR, Baguio City – An orphan from Zamboanga City is this year’s valedictorian of the Philippine Military Academy’s Baghawi Class composed of 197 men and 23 women.

Cadet First Class Ariel G. Rallos of Limon Drive, Canelar Triplett in Zamboanga City will receive the Presidential Saber Award, PGMA Achievement Award for Excellence, Philippine Navy Sword, Jusmag Award and five other citations and plaques during PMA’s graduation rites on March 18.

Rallos, 26, lost his father when he was still in high school. His mother died in 2005.

“Dedication and the will to excel are what brought me here," he said in an interview.

Rallos obtained his BS Physics diploma from the Western Mindanao University before entering the country’s premiere military academy.

The 2006 top PMA graduate, Air Force Lt. Ariel Toledo of the Mandala Class, was also an orphan. Toledo himself died of liver last September.

The Baghawi class salutatorian is Bernard Roderick Joaquin from Aguilar, Pangasinan. He will receive the Vice Presidential Saber and the Philippine Air Force Award for being the top Air Force recruit.

Third in the class is Me-Ann Sinson of Ligao City, Albay, the only woman cadet in the Top 10. She is joining the Air Force.

Dennis T. Legaspi of Zamboanga Sibugay is fourth, getting the Philippine Army Saber.

After graduation, Rallos, Joaquin and Legaspi will pursue further studies in the United States as part of their Jusmag awards.

Vergel Lacambra of Pagadian City comes fifth and Carlo Catalan of Dumaguete City is on the sixth place.

Others in the top 10 are: Francisco Pondoyo Jr of Zamboanga del Sur; Marc Louis Parado of Baliuag, Bulacan; Dennis Moreno of Banga, South Cotabato; and, Vay Caballero of Cagayan de Oro City.

PMA Superintendent Maj. Gen. Leopoldo Maligalig said the top graduates were chosen for their academic records as well as physical and sports training, military science training and character development program. - GMANews.TV

^^nakaka inspire naman ang story nya:)

CONGRATULATIONS!!

Navy Cadet Ariel G. Rallos

VALEDECTORIAN, BAGONG HALAW NG LAHI CLASS OF THE PHILIPPINE MILITARY ACADEMY

PRESIDENTIAL SABER AWARDEE

PGMA AWARDEE FOR EXCELLENCE


^^CONGRATS MUCHO!!!!!!!!!!!:cheers:

hi

Viaje na wow Zamboanga

1-Estribillo:
Que tal ustedes maga hermano y hermana
Vene pasea na lugar de zamboanga
Nativo lugar del de mio nacimiento
Contigo ta lleva y mira mi pueblo
Pasea, mira maga deferente flores
Conoce maga bonita mujeres
Zamboanga tu no olvida na pensamiento
Un paraiso que yo ta ama.

Coro:
Ya pasea ya ba usted
Man aire fresca na cawa-cawa
Y mira maga de colores
Vinta na su mar.

Ya subi ya ba usted
na un casa arbol
senta na plaza pershing
y subi na abong-abong
visita na museo…

ya reza ya ba usted
na fortaleza del pilar
sendi candela na su altar
por la paz na zamboanga..

2-Estribillo:
Vene, pruba maga
diferente comida
Pasea y nada na
un isla sta. cruz
Zamboanga un ciudad
El orgullo de Mindanao
Un paraiso que yo ta ama.
(Repiti Coro)

Interludio:
Viaje ya maga amigo
Man junto kita todo
Aprende el lenguaje
Chavacano como
Lenguaje latino,
Lenguaje chavcano.

Coro final:
Ya pasea ya ba usted
Man aire fresca na cawa-cawa
Munta maga de colores vinta,
Viaje ya!.

Ya subi ya ba usted
na un casa arbol
senta na plaza pershing
y subi na abong-abong
visita na museo…

ya reza ya ba usted
na fortaleza del pilar
sendi candela na su altar
por la paz na zamboanga..



:banana::banana::banana:

Me gusta ese cancion...
que muy tranquillo na orejas...:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

si vosotros quiere oi con este cancion, anda vosotros alla na youtube y escribi "viaje na wow zamboanga" y despues pulsa o fincha o fichi con el botun "busqueda" na chavacano es decir "search"

Chavacano language

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Chavacano is a creole language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_language) or a Spanish-based creole language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish-based_creole_language), a name also given to the several varieties of the philippine creole spanish (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippine_creole_spanish&action=edit&redlink=1). a language evolved from spanish with influences from european (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European), quechua (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quechua), mexican indian (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mexican_indian&action=edit&redlink=1), taino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taino) and from philippines austronesian languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesian_languages) as for its grammatical structure.
Chavacano speakers are concentrated mostly in Zamboanga City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_City) and in the provinces of Zamboanga del Sur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_del_Sur), Zamboanga Sibugay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_Sibugay), Zamboanga del Norte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_del_Norte), and Basilan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilan). It is also spoken in some areas of Cavite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavite), Davao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davao), and Cotabato (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotabato). According to the official 2000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000) Philippine census, there were altogether 607,200 Chavacano speakers in the Philippines in that same year. The exact figure could be higher than the census figure as the population of Zamboanga City, whose main language is Chavacano, far exceeded the census figure in 2000.
Speakers are also found in Semporna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semporna), Sabah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabah) in Malaysia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia)—not surprisingly—because this northern part of Borneo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borneo) is close to the Sulu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulu) islands and Zamboanga Peninsula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_Peninsula) and was once part of Spanish Philippines until the late 19th century. Some people of the Muslim ethnic tribes of Zamboanga such as the Tausugs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tausug), the Samals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samal), and of Basilan such as the Yakans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakan) also speak the language. In the close provinces of Sulu and Tawi-Tawi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawi-Tawi) areas, there are muslim speakers of the Chabacano de Zamboanga.
There are several varieties of this creole and their classification is based on their substrate languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substratum) and the regions where they are commonly spoken. The three known varieties of Chavacano/Chabacano which have Tagalog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagalog_language) as their substrate language are Caviteño (spoken in Cavite), Ternateño (spoken in Ternate, Cavite), and Ermitaño (once spoken in Ermita (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermita%2C_Manila) and now extinct). The other varieties which have Cebuano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cebuano_language) and ilongo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilongo_language) as their substrate language are Zamboangueño (spoken in Zamboanga City), Davaoeño (spoken in areas of Davao), and Cotabateño (spoken in Cotabato City). Zamboangueño is the variety with the most number of speakers, being the main language of Zamboanga City.
The vocabulary is predominantly derived from the Spanish language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language), while grammar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar) is mostly based on other Philippine languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_Philippines) such as Tagalog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagalog_language) and Cebuano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cebuano). It is used in education (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education), print media (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Print_media), television (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television) and radio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio).
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<LI class=toclevel-1>1 Chabacano? Chavacano? Chabakano? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Chabacano.3F_Chavacano.3F_Chabakano.3F) <LI class=toclevel-1>2 Historical development (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Historical_development) <LI class=toclevel-2>2.1 Zamboangueño (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Zamboangue.C3.B1o)
2.2 Caviteño / Ternateño (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Cavite.C3.B1o_.2F_Ternate.C3.B1o)<LI class=toclevel-1>3 Samples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Samples) <LI class=toclevel-2>3.1 (Zamboangueño) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#.28Zamboangue.C3.B1o.29)
3.1.1 Another sample of Chavacano de Zamboanga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Another_sample_of_Chavacano_de_Zamboanga)
3.2 (Caviteño / Ternateño) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#.28Cavite.C3.B1o_.2F_Ternate.C3.B1o.29)
3.2.1 Another Sample of Chavacano de Cavite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Another_Sample_of_Chavacano_de_Cavite)<LI class=toclevel-1>4 Translation of the Lord's Prayer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Translation_of_the_Lord.27s_Prayer) <LI class=toclevel-2>4.1 Zamboangueño (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Zamboangue.C3.B1o_2) <LI class=toclevel-3>4.1.1 Zamboangueño (Common) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Zamboangue.C3.B1o_.28Common.29)
4.1.2 Zamboangueño (Formal) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Zamboangue.C3.B1o_.28Formal.29)<LI class=toclevel-2>4.2 Caviteño (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Cavite.C3.B1o)
4.3 Ternateño (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Ternate.C3.B1o)<LI class=toclevel-1>5 Writing System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Writing_System) <LI class=toclevel-1>6 Vocabulary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Vocabulary) <LI class=toclevel-2>6.1 Forms and Style (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Forms_and_Style) <LI class=toclevel-2>6.2 Months, Days and Numbers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Months.2C_Days_and_Numbers)
6.3 Greetings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Greetings)<LI class=toclevel-1>7 Grammar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Grammar) <LI class=toclevel-2>7.1 Nouns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Nouns)
7.1.1 Plural nouns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Plural_nouns)<LI class=toclevel-2>7.2 Pronouns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Pronouns)
7.3 Verbs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Verbs)<LI class=toclevel-1>8 Archaic Castillian words and False Friends (Spanish words that have changed in meaning) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Archaic_Castillian_words_and_False_Friends_.28Spanish_words_that_have_changed_in_meaning.29) <LI class=toclevel-1>9 Trivia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Trivia) <LI class=toclevel-1>10 See also (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#See_also) <LI class=toclevel-1>11 Codes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#Codes) <LI class=toclevel-1>12 References (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#References)
13 External links (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#External_links)

Chabacano? Chavacano? Chabakano?

Zamboangueños usually (but not always) spell the word as Chavacano in reference to their language or to themselves as Chavacanos, and they spell the word as chabacano referring to the Spanish meaning of the word or Chabacano referring also to the language itself. Thus, Zamboangueños generally spell the word in two different ways. Caviteños, Ternateños, and Ermitaños spell the word as it is spelled originally in the Spanish language - as chabacano. Davaoeños, Cotabateños and especially those from Basilan province tend to lean more on the Zamboangueño spellings. It is important to take note that the varieties of the language are geographically-related. Thus, Ermitaño, Caviteño, and Ternateño are similar to each other having Tagalog as their substrate language while Zamboangueño, Davaoeño, and Cotabateño are similar having Cebuano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cebuano_language), Ilongo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilongo_language) and other languages as their substrate language also some words from Portuguise, Nahaut'l., Italian and Mexican-Indian.
In contrast with the Luzon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luzon)-based creoles, the Zamboangueño variety has the most borrowings from other more languages including Hiligaynon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiligaynon), Subanon (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Subanon&action=edit&redlink=1), Sama-Banguingui (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banguingui), and Tausug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tausug). Mexican Spanish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Spanish) and some words of Nahuatl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl) and Taino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taino) origin are present in Zamboangueño. Tagalog words are also present in Zamboangueño and few other words from other languages such as Ilocano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilocano_language) and other native Philippine languages. Also, a Zamboangueño would call his variety Zamboangueño or Chavacano de Zamboanga, a Caviteño would call his variety Caviteño or Chabacano de Cavite, and etc. to emphasize the difference from one another using their own geographical location as point of reference.
There are also other alternative names and spellings for this language depending on the varieties and context (whether hispanized or native). Zamboangueños sometimes spell their variety as Chabakano. Caviteño is also known as Caviten, Linguaje di Niso or sometimes spell their variety as Tsabakano while Ermitaño is also known as Ermiteño and Ternateño as Ternateño Chabacano, Bahra or Linguaje di Bahra. Davaoeño is also Davaweño, Davawenyo, Davawenyo Zamboangenyo, Abakay Spanish, or Davao Chabacano/Chavacano. Cotabateño is also known as Cotabato Chabacano/Chavacano.
Speakers from Basilan consider their Chavacano as Zamboangueño or Chavacano de Zamboanga.

Historical development


Zamboangueño

On June 23 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_23), 1635 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1635), Zamboanga became a permanent foothold of the Spanish government known as San José Fort (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Pilar). Bombardment of Muslim attackers, harassments of Muslim pirates and the determination to spread Christianity forced friars to request Spanish reinforcements. Zamboanga or San José Fort was also a crucial strategic location.
The military authorities decided to import labor from Luzon and the Visayas. Thus, the construction workforce eventually consisted of Spanish soldiers, masons from Cavite-who comprised the majority, sacadas from Cebu and Iloilo, and those from the various local tribes of Zamboanga like the Samals and Subanons.
Differences in dialect and culture made it difficult for one tribe to communicate with another. To add to this, work instructions were issued in Spanish. The majority of the workers were unschooled and therefore did not understand Spanish but needed to communicate with each other and the Spaniards. A lingua franca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca) developed and became a full-fledged language still in use today, mainly in Zamboanga City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_City).
From then on, constant Spanish military reinforcements as well as increased presence of Spanish religious institutions and educational institutions have fostered the Spanish creole. see also http://www.zamboanga.com/history/history_Chavacano_de_Zamboanga.htm (http://www.zamboanga.com/history/history_Chavacano_de_Zamboanga.htm) http://www.zamboanga.com/history/history_Chavacano_de_Zamboanga_middle.htm (http://www.zamboanga.com/history/history_Chavacano_de_Zamboanga_middle.htm)

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chavacano_language&action=edit&section=4)] Caviteño / Ternateño

The Merdicas (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Merdicas&action=edit&redlink=1) were a tribe of Malays of Ternate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternate) in the Moluccas which was a small Spanish colony. Before this Ternate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternate) was a Portuguese colony. In 1574 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1574), the Merdicas volunteered to come to Cavite to support the Spanish against the threat of invasion of the Chinese pirate, Limahong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limahong). The invasion did not occur but the community of Merdicas settled in a place called Barra de Maragondon (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barra_de_Maragondon&action=edit&redlink=1) at a sandbar at the mouth of the Maragondon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maragondon) River. Today, the place is called Ternate and the community of Merdicas continued to use broken Spanish which came to be called Ternateño or Ternateño Chavacano.

Samples


(Zamboangueño)

Donde tu anda? Spanish: ¿A dónde vas? (‘Where are you going?’) Ya mirá yo con José. Spanish: Yo miré a José. (‘I saw José.’) Ele ya empezá buscá que buscá con el sal. Spanish: Ella empezó a buscar la sal en todas partes. (‘He/She began to search everywhere for the salt.’) Ele ya andá na escuela. Spanish: Ella fué a la escuela. (‘He/She went to school.’) Si Mario ya dormí na casa. Spanish: Mario durmió en la casa. (‘Mario slept in the house.’) El hombre, quien ya man encuentro tu, amo mi hermano. Spanish: El hombre, a quien conociste, es mi hermano. (The man [whom] you met is my brother.) El persona con quien ta conversa tu, bien alegre gayot. Spanish: La persona con quien conversas, está bien alegre. (The person you are talking to is very happy indeed.)
[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chavacano_language&action=edit&section=7)] Another sample of Chavacano de Zamboanga

Treinta y cuatro kilometro desde'l pueblo de Zamboanga, el Bunguiao que un barrio chico estaba como un desierto. No hay gente quien ta queda aqui. Abundante este lugar del maga animal particularmente como puerco, gatorgalla, venao y otro mas pa. Maga pajariador lang ta visita con este lugar.
'Bunguiao, a small village, thirty four kilometers from the city of Zamboanga, was once a wilderness. No people lived here. The place abounded with wild animals like pigs, wildcats, deer, and still others. The place was visited only by (bird) hunters.'
(Caviteño / Ternateño)

Nisós ya pidí pabor cun su papang. Spanish: Nosotros ya pedimos un favor de tu padre. (‘We have already asked your father for a favor.’)
[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chavacano_language&action=edit&section=9)] Another Sample of Chavacano de Cavite

Puede nisos habla: que grande nga pala el sacrificio del mga heroe para niso independencia. Debe nga pala no niso ulvida con ilos. Ansina ya ba numa? Debe haci niso mga cosa para dale sabi que ta aprecia niso con el mga heroe. Que preparao din niso haci sacrificio para el pueblo. Que laya? Escribi mga novela como Jose Rizal?
Translation in Zamboangueño:
'Quiere decir, puede nosostros habla cay el que grande sacrificio gale ya ofrece nuestro maga heroe para obtene nosotros con nuestro independencia. Entonces, no debe nosostros olvida con ellos. Ancina gane, hende ba? Necesita nosotros manda sabe con todos que nosotros ta aprecia con nuestro maga heroe y nosotros preparado tambien sacrifica para con el nacion. Quemodo ese nosotros hace? Maga clase de novela como ya escribi si Jose Rizal,nosotros hay escribir tambien?' In English:
'We can say what great sacrifices our heroes have done to achieve our independence. We should therefore not forget them. Is it like this? We should do things to let it be known that we appreciate the heroes; that we are prepared to make sacrifices for our people. How? [should we] write novels like José Rizal?'
Translation of the Lord's Prayer


Zamboangueño


Zamboangueño (Common)

Tata de amon talli na cielo,
bendito el de Usted nombre.
Manda vene con el de Usted reino;
Hace el de Usted voluntad aqui na tierra,
igual como alli na cielo.

Dale kanamon el pan para cada dia.
Perdona el de amon maga culpa,
como ta perdona kame con aquellos
quien tiene culpa kanamon.
No deja que hay cae kame na tentacion
y libra kanamon na mal.


Zamboangueño (Formal)

Nuestro Tata talli na cielo,
bendito el de Usted nombre.
Manda vene con el de Usted reino;
Hace el de Usted voluntad aqui na tierra,
igual como alli na cielo.

Dale con nosotros el pan para cada dia.
Perdona el de nuestro maga culpa,
como nosotros ta perdona con aquellos
quien tiene culpa con nosotros.
No deja que nosotros hay cae na tentacion
y libra con nosotros de mal.


Caviteño

Niso Tata Qui ta na cielo,
quida santificao Tu nombre.
Manda vini con niso Tu reino;
Sigui el qui quiere Tu aqui na tierra,
igual como na cielo!

Dali con niso ahora,
niso comida para todo el dia.
Perdona el mga culpa di niso,
si que laya ta perdona niso con aquel
mga qui tiene culpa con niso.
No dija qui cai niso na tentacion,
pero salva con niso na malo.

Ternateño

Padri di mijotru ta allí na cielo,
quidá alabaó Bo nombre.
Llevá cun mijotru Bo trono; Viní con mijotru Bo reino;
Siguí cosa qui Bo mandá aquí na tiehra,
parejo allí na cielo!

Dali con mijotro esti día,
el cumida di mijotro para cada día.
Perdoná quél mgá culpa ya hací mijotro con Bo,
como ta perdoná mijotro ‘quel
mga culpa ya hací el mga otro genti cun mijotro.
No dijá qui caí mijotru na tintación,
sinó hací librá con mijotro na malo.

Writing System

Main article: Chavacano orthography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_orthography)
Chavacano is written using the Latin alphabet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_alphabet) with the additional characters from Spanish alphabet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_alphabet).
a, b, c, ch, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, ll, m, n, ñ, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z.
Vocabulary


Forms and Style

Chavacano (especially Zamboangueño) has two levels of usage for words: The common, the familiar form and the formal form.
In the common or familiar form, words of local origin or a mixture of local and Spanish words predominate. The common or familiar form is used ordinarily when conversing with people of equal or lower status in society. It is also used more commonly in the family, with friends and acquaintances. Its use is of general acceptance and usage.
In the formal form, words of Spanish origin or Spanish words predominate. The formal form is used especially when conversing with people of higher status in society. It is also used when conversing with elders (especially in the family and with older relatives) and those in authority. It is more commonly used by older generations, by Zamboangueño mestizos, and in the barrios. It is the form used in speeches, education, media, and writing.


Grammar

Nouns

Unlike Spanish, Chavacano nouns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouns) do not follow gender rules in general. In Zamboangueño, the article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_%28grammar%29) 'el' basically follows every singular noun. However, this rule is not rigid (especially in Zamboangueño) because the formal vocabulary mode wherein Spanish words predominate almost always is the preferred mode especially in writing. The Spanish article 'la' for feminine singular nouns do exist in Chavacano. When in doubt, the article 'el' is safe to use.
And just like Spanish, Chavacano nouns do have gender but only when referring to persons. However, they are always masculine in the sense that they are generally preceded by the article 'el'. Places and things are almost always masculine. The -o is dropped in masculine nouns and -a is added to make the noun feminine:

Not all nouns referring to persons can become feminine nouns. In Chavacano, some names of persons are almost always masculine and doesn't always end in -o. Examples: el politico, el negociante, el chufer.
All names of animals are always masculine preceded by the article 'el'. Examples: el gato (gata is uncommon), el puerco (puerca is uncommon), el perro (perra is uncommon)
Names of places and things can be masculine or feminine, but they are considered masculine because the article 'el' always precedes the noun: el cocina, el pantalon, el comida, el agua, el camino, el trapo.

Plural nouns

In Chavacano, the Spanish articles 'los' and 'las' have almost disappeared when naming plural forms of persons, places or things (whether masculine or feminine). They have been replaced by 'maga'. Maga comes from the native Tagalog or Cebuano 'mga'. This rule applies whether in common, familiar or formal mode.
There are some Chavacano speakers (especially older Caviteño or Zamboangueño speakers) who would tend to say 'mana' for 'maga'. 'Mana' is accepted and quite common especially with older speakers, but when in doubt and almost always, the article 'maga' to pluralize nouns is safer to use.

Again, this rule is not rigid (especially in Zamboangueño). The articles 'los' or 'las' do exist sometimes before few nouns and are accepted: los caballeros, los dias, las noches, los chavacanos, los santos, las mañanas, las almujadas, las mesas, las plumas, las cosas
When in doubt, it is always safe to use 'maga' to pluralize singular nouns: maga caballero, maga dia, maga noche, maga chavacano, maga santo, maga dia que viene (this is a phrase; 'maga mañana' is uncommon), maga almujada, maga mesa, maga pluma
In Chavacano, it is common for some nouns to become double when pluralized: maga cosa-cosa (maga cosa is uncommon), maga casa-casa (maga casa is common), maga gente-gente (maga gente is common), maga bata-bata (maga bata, 'child', is common), maga juego-juego (maga juego is common)
In general, the letters -s, -as, -os to pluralize nouns in Spanish have also almost disappeared in Chavacano. The singular form of the noun generally retains although it becomes plural because of the preceding article 'maga' or 'mana':
maga caballeros (wrong) maga caballero (correct) maga dias (wrong) mana dia (correct)
However, the use of adding -es to some nouns is quite common and accepted, and sometimes nouns ending in -cion can be pluralized by adding -es: maga meses, maga mujeres, maga mayores, maga tentaciones, maga contestaciones, maga naciones, maga organizaciones
Still, it is safer to use the general rule (when in doubt) of retaining the singular form of the noun preceded by the article 'maga' or 'mana': maga mes, maga mujer, maga mayor, maga tentacion, maga contestacion, maga nacion, maga organizacion

Pronouns

Chavacano pronouns are based on native (Tagalog and Cebuano) and Spanish sources; many of the pronouns are not used in either but may be derived in part.
In Chavacano de Zamboanga, there are three different levels of usage for certain pronouns depending on the level of familiarity between the speaker and the addressee, the status of both in family and society, or the mood of the speaker and addressee at the particular moment: common, familiar, and formal. The common forms are, particularly in the second and third person plural, derived from Cebuano while most familiar and formal forms are from Spanish. The common forms are used to address a person below or of equal social or family status or to someone is who is acquainted. The common forms are used to regard no formality or courtesy in conversation. Its use can also mean rudeness, impoliteness or offensiveness. The familiar forms are used to address someone of equal social or family status. It indicates courteousness, and is commonly used in public conversations, the broadcast media, and in education. The formal forms are used to address someone older and/or higher in social or family status. It is the form used in writing.
Additionally, Zamboangueño is the only variety of Chavacano which distinguishes between the inclusive we (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusive_and_exclusive_we) (kita) - including the person spoken to (the addressee) - and the exclusive we (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusive_and_exclusive_we) (kame) - excluding the person spoken to (the addressee) - in the first person plural except in the formal form where nosotros is used for both.

Verbs
In Zamboangueño, Chavacano verbs are mostly Spanish in origin. In contrast to the other varieties, there is rarely a Zamboangueño verb that is based on or has its origin from other Philippine languages. Hence, verbs contribute much of the Spanish vocabulary in Chavacano de Zamboanga.
Generally, the simple form of the Zamboangueño verb is based upon the infinitive of the Spanish verb, minus the final /r/. For example, continuar, hablar, poner, recibir, and llevar become continuá, hablá, poné, recibí, and llevá with the accent on the final syllable.
There are some rare exceptions. Some verbs are not derived from infinitives but from words that are technically Spanish phrases or from other Spanish verbs. For example, dar doesn't become da but dale (literally in Spanish, to "give it"). In this case, dale has nothing to do with the Spanish infinitive dar. The Chavacano brinca (to hop) is from Spanish brinco which means the same thing.
Chavacano uses the words ya, ta, and hay plus the simple form of the verb to convey the basic tenses of past (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_tense), present (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Present_tense), and future (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_tense) respectively:


Archaic Castillian words and False Friends (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_Friends) (Spanish words that have changed in meaning)
Chavacano has preserved plenty of archaic Spanish words in its vocabulary that modern Spanish no longer uses; for example:
En denantes - a while ago (Spanish: "hace un tiempo"). Take note that "En denantes" is an archaic Spanish phrase. Modern Spanish would express the phrase as "poco antes de hoy" or "hace un tiempo," but Chavacano still retains this archaic Spanish phrase and many other archaic Spanish words. Masquen/masquin means 'even (if)'. In Spanish, "mas que" is an archaic Spanish phrase meaning 'although', nowadays replaced by the Spanish word aunque.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano_language#_note-0) On the other hand, some Spanish words have evolved or have acquired totally different meanings in Chavacano. Hence for Spanish speakers who would encounter Chavacano speakers, some words familiar to them have become false friends (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_friends).
Some examples of false friends (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_friends) are:
Cerilla means 'earwax'. (In Spain, "cerilla" means 'match' (and earwax too); Although in Latin America its meaning is 'earwax'.) Siguro/Seguro means 'maybe'. (In Spanish, "seguro" means 'sure', 'secure', or 'stable'. But as well it could imply a probability, "Seguro el vendrá" (Probably he will come)) Siempre means 'of course', 'Still' also 'always' but its rare. (In Spanish, "siempre" means 'always'.) Firmi means 'always'. (In Spanish, "firme" means 'firm' or 'steady'.) Since accents and punctuation are an important part of Spanish, Spanish words often change meaning when the accents are removed. In Spanish, "mama" and "ingles" mean the imperativeform of the verb 'to suck' and 'groin', respectively, instead of their intended 'mother' and 'English' (i.e. "mamá", "inglés")
In Portuguese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese), which is similar to Old Spanish "na" is a contraction of "em a" ('in the'). However, in Chavacano it can mean a whole slew of prepositions. "Ele" is also similar to the Portuguese pronoun "Ele" ('him').

Trivia

The word chabacano—which the name Chavacano is derived from—is Spanish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language) for "poor taste," "vulgar," "common," "tasteless," "tacky," or "coarse."
Chabacano is apricot for Mexican Spanish speakers. Although apricot is albaricoque or damasco in Spanish, in Mexico 'chabacano' is an apricot variety, to be exact. Chabacano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Chabacano) is also the name of a metro station in Mexico City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City) where 3 lines meet.
Chavacano language an iberian language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_language). one of the oldest creole language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_language) in world living for about 373 years since 1635. and it is the only spanish creole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_creole) in asia, also the only language in the philippines which is not a member of the austronesian languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesian_languages).

OTHER LANGUAGES FROM NATIVE AMERICAN BECAME PATRT OF OUR LEXICON:

TAINO
The Taínos were pre-Columbian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian) indigenous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas) inhabitants of the Bahamas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamas), Greater Antilles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Antilles), and the northern Lesser Antilles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_Antilles). It is believed that the seafaring Taínos were relatives of the Arawakan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arawak) people of South America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_America). Their language is a member of the Maipurean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maipurean) linguistic family (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_family), which ranges from South America across the Caribbean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean). The Taínos of the Bahamas were known as the Lucayan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucayan) (the Bahamas being known then as the Lucayas), while those in Puerto Rico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico) called themselves Borinquen.
At the time of Columbus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus)'s arrival in 1492, there were five Taíno kingdoms or territories on Hispaniola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispaniola) (modern day Dominican Republic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic) and Haiti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti)), each led by a principal Cacique (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cacique) (chieftain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_chief)), to whom tribute was paid. As the hereditary head chief of Taíno tribes, the cacique was paid significant tribute. Caciques enjoyed the privilege of wearing copper pendants, living in square bohíos instead of the round ones the villagers inhabited, and sat on wooden stools when receving guests. At the time of the Spanish conquest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_conquest), the largest Taíno population centers may have contained around 3,000 people or more. The Taínos were historical neighbors and enemies of the fierce Carib (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carib) tribes, another group with origins in South America who lived principally in the Lesser Antilles. The relationship between the two groups has been the subject of much study.
For much of the 15th century (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15th_century), the Taíno tribe was being driven to the Northeast in the Caribbean (out of what is now South America) because of raids by fierce Caribs (Many Carib women spoke Taíno because of the large number of female Taíno captives among them).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taino#_note-0)
By the 18th century (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18th_century), Taíno society had been devastated by introduced diseases (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectious_diseases) such as smallpox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox), as well as other problems like intermarriages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarriages) and forced assimilation into the plantation economy that Spain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain) imposed in its Caribbean colonies, with its subsequent importation of African slave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery) workers. It is argued that there was substantial mestizaje (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mestizo) as well as several Indian pueblos that survived into the 19th century in Cuba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba). The Spaniards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaniards) who first arrived in the Bahamas, Cuba and Hispaniola in 1492, and later in Puerto Rico, did not bring women. They might have taken Taíno wives in civil marriages or otherwise impregnated Taíno women, which would have resulted in mestizo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mestizo) children.

example words:
batata(taino origin) - patata(s) Chavacano - sweet potato
guayaba(taino origin) - guava(chavacano)

Quechua
Quechua (Runa Simi) is a Native American language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_language) of South America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_America). It was already widely spoken across the Central Andes long before the time of the Incas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_Empire), who adopted it as the official language of administration for their Empire, and is still spoken today in various regional forms (the so-called ‘dialects (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quechuas)’) by some 10 million people through much of the South America, including Peru (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peru), south-western and central Bolivia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivia), southern Colombia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombia) and Ecuador (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecuador), north-western Argentina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina) and northern Chile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile). It is the most widely spoken language of the indigenous peoples of the Americas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas).
Quechua is a very regular agglutinative language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agglutinative_language), as opposed to a fusional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusional_language) one. Its normal sentence order is SOV (subject-object-verb). Its large number of suffixes changes both the overall significance of words and their subtle shades of meaning. Notable grammatical features include bipersonal conjugation (verbs agree with both subject and object), evidentiality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidentiality) (indication of the source and veracity of knowledge), a topic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic_%28linguistics%29) particle, and suffixes indicating who benefits from an action and the speaker's attitude toward


Mexican Indian:
this are the but not limited to Nahautl, Aztec and more..
Nahuatl ([ˈnaː.wat͡ɬ] (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1e/Nawatl.ogg) (help (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_help)·info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nawatl.ogg)))[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl_language#_note-1) is a group of related languages and dialects of the Aztecan, or Nahuan, branch of the Uto-Aztecan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uto-Aztecan) language family. It is indigenous to Mesoamerica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerica) and is spoken by an estimated 1.5 million Nahua people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahua_peoples), mostly in Central Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico).
Nahuatl has been spoken in Central Mexico since at least the 7th century AD.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl_language#_note-2) At the time of the Spanish conquest of Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_conquest_of_Mexico) in the early 16th century it was the language of the Aztecs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec), who dominated central Mexico during the Late Postclassic period of Mesoamerican chronology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_chronology). The expansion and influence of the Aztec Empire led to the dialect spoken by the Aztecs of Tenochtitlan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenochtitlan) becoming a prestige language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prestige_dialect) throughout Mesoamerica in this period. With the introduction of the Latin Alphabet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Alphabet), Nahuatl also became a literary language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_language) and many chronicles, grammars, works of poetry, administrative documents and codices (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_codices) were written in the 16th and 17th centuries.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl_language#_note-3) This early literary language based on the Tenochtitlan dialect has been labelled Classical Nahuatl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Nahuatl) and is among the most-studied and best-documented languages of the Americas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas).[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl_language#_note-4)
Today Nahuan dialects (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl_dialects)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl_language#_note-5) are spoken in scattered communities mostly in rural areas. There are considerable differences between dialects and some are mutually unintelligible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_intelligibility). They have all been subject to varying degrees of influence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_contact) from Spanish. No modern dialects are identical to Classical Nahuatl, but those spoken in and around the Valley of Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_Mexico) are generally more closely related to it than those on the periphery.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl_language#_note-6) Under the Mexican "Law of Linguistic Rights" (ley general de derechos lingüisticos de los pueblos indígenas), Nahuatl is recognized as a "national language" with the same status as Spanish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language) and Mexico's other recognized indigenous languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_languages_of_Mexico).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl_language#_note-7)
Nahuatl is a language with a complex morphology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphology_%28linguistics%29) characterized by polysynthesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polysynthesis) and agglutination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agglutinative_language), allowing the construction of long words with complex meanings out of several stems and affixes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affix). Nahuatl has been influenced by other Mesoamerican languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_languages) through centuries of coexistence, becoming part of the Mesoamerican Linguistic Area (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_Linguistic_Area). Many words from Nahuatl have been borrowed into Spanish and further on into hundreds of other languages. These are mostly words for concepts indigenous to central Mexico which the Spanish heard mentioned for the first time by their Nahuatl names. English words of Nahuatl origin include "tomato (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato)", "avocado (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avocado)" and "chocolate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate)".


example words:
(from Nahuatl tomatl). - tomates(chavacano)
(from Nahuatl ahuacatl) - avocado(chavacano)
(from Nahuatl cacahuatl 'shell, rind'); - cocao(chavacano)
(from Nahuatl tatal). - tata(chavacano) - tatay(tagalo/cebuANO)
(from Nahuatl nanal). - nana(chavacano) - nanay(tagalo/cebuano)

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^^bale man te ya ase tu acer_cyle, bravo!!!!!:cheers:

^^Gracias Windlady...

cay ya gusta tu mi obra de foto!:banana:

pero ya habla mi amiga aqui cay tiene dao falta... sabe que? falta un poco arte!:banana:

buenos diaz a todos!

¿Como sona la lengua chavacana (de Zamboanga)?
¡oye!

un video (youtube) de mi tio (rajah soliman) :cheers:

o6tofnmn6Ec

Tv Patrol Chavacano is only one of the many TV Stations broadcasting in Chavacano..another are Dateline Zamboanga, RPN News..etc..

wala na lagi lami ang forum karun. asa man daw nabikil? kung dili away, puros na lang history sa zamboanga, nasobraan na pud pag promote. para sa akoa lang ha, ug para sa akoa lang, sumo na kaayo. hehehe

^^tama na sobra na, lets cut the school issue pls. lets look on the brighter side ok..... :nuts:

wala na lagi lami ang forum karun. asa man daw nabikil? kung dili away, puros na lang history sa zamboanga, nasobraan na pud pag promote. para sa akoa lang ha, ug para sa akoa lang, sumo na kaayo. hehehe

^^btaw i agree sumo na dyud kaaaaaaaayo.:cheers:

Book Review: Zamboanga Remembered (http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/55459)
Mike Banos

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I've recently published a memoir entitled Zamboanga Remembered. The author, Cesar Lee, writes about his experiences as a child growing up in the Magay district of Zamboanga City during the 1930's and 1940's, a period that covers both the Depression and the Japanese invasion of WWII. This is a child's-eye view and covers much of the daily life of the area for that era."

With those words in an email message, a world in my past I thought I had all but forgotten was once more opened, thanks to a wonderful lady named Leila Joiner and her Imago Press, which published Cesar Lee's memoirs of his childhood in the place of both our youths.

I came across Ñor Cesar's book when Ms. Joiner emailed me about it, having seen my name and email address in Zamboanga.com, the online resource for Zamboanga of my cousin Philip, who now lives in Florida. She offered to send me a copy if I did a review of it, and would I? Wow, a chance to relive the Zamboanga of the childhood days of my father Rene and mom Nena! I told her I would be very happy to do it, thank you very much, though book reviews aren't really my forte.

The Zamboanga that Cesar Lee reminisces about, from 1932 when he was born, to his departure for Tucson, Arizona in 1951, is far removed from the Zamboanga I knew as a child and adolescent, growing up there from 1958 to 1981 when I moved away for good to Cagayan de Oro.

Yet having both spent our youth there, albeit two decades and a half apart, we still share many of the same memories growing up in this extraordinary place we both deep in our hearts shall forever know as home.

The places Ñor Cesar reminisces about—the Burleigh School (Central School to me), the pantalan (pier), Fort Pilar, Rio Hondo, Moret Field (as the old airport road where we used to live and I spent the greater part of my young life used to be called), and especially his ancestral home in Magay street—I imagine were pretty much the way they were for my generation, though perhaps Magay would forever remind me of billiards, because that's where our high school gang would walk to (to save on the 25 centavo jeepney fare) from the Normal School (already renamed State College during our time) so we could have more mesadas or games of pool at the Olympic Billiard Hall.

Very much like Ñor Cesar, our family had Chinese blood on both sides of our family. Although my Lolo Pantaleon Baños, who was appointed deputy provincial governor of Basilan province shortly after the Liberation, was three-quarters Castellano (Spanish, his father Julian Baños was a surveyor for the Spanish Army from Seville, Spain, while his mother Felipa Lorenzo was a mestiza), my Lola Maling's father, Jose Espinosa, better known as Que Kiala of Isabela, Basilan was from Amoy, in present-day Fujian province in China. My Maternal Lolo Lorenzo Jr.'s father was also obviously Chinese (Maximino Lee Desembrana of Mauban, Quezon), while my Nanay Ester's Maternal Great Grandfather Quentin Hee Yong Ko (later hispanized to Jiongco) of Navotas, Rizal was also from Amoy.

What's the point of going through three quarters of my family tree? Hey, look inside any Zamboangueño (even those of us who are often mistaken for foreigners in our own country) and you will invariably find traces of our Chinese ancestry. Unlike Ñor Cesar's father, Percy, our Lola Maling, Lolo Lorenzo, and Nanay Ester had long ceased speaking Fukienese and preferred to converse in English and their dialect, Chavacano, for Lola Maling, and Tagalog for my mother Nena's parents.

But Chinese friends who still spoke the old dialect as well as Mandarin were in our neighborhood aplenty, and just across Barcelona street where we used to have our apartment lived the numerous siblings of the Bangayan clan and their neighbor, the Wee's, one of whom was nicknamed Pating (Shark!). I should ask Fr. Buds Wee, S.J. about that nickname someday.

Even school and the old main street of Guardia Nacional were dominated by Filipino-Chinese businessmen. I remember the ABC Bakery nearby and Wellington's Clothier and New Life Trading where we used to have our trousers sewn.

But we digress from Zamboanga. Like Ñor Cesar, I wasn't only a boy scout, but a cub scout as well. And being one in the Normal School meant that, because of our relatively small classes, we received a more intensive training in the skills and knowledge of being one, even to getting to Dapitan, some 500 kms away, when I was only around nine, to earn a merit badge for the Dapitan Trek. Camping at the Pasonanca (spelled today with a c instead of a ck) Park was almost a weekly affair, and I learned the finer points of not only knot tying but pioneering as well (setting up monkey bridges, towers, and other structures with bamboo and abaca rope). Our Scout Master, the late Mr. Estipona, who originally came from the Chong Hua Chinese School, was an excellent teacher, as were his students. Alas, for all the camping and trekking I did as a Boy Scout, I never did scale Mt. Pulumbato (we stand corrected, thanks to our former Mindanao Today news editor Bing Puno, who now calls Texas home).

And yes, like the youngsters of his youth, our gang in Moret Field, Baliwasan also indulged in tiempos like biking, smoking (we tried all sorts of home-made cigarettes like those made from dried leaves of the Lomboy or papaya trees), kite flying with fighting charanggolas, trompos (spinning tops) and biben (yoyos), pitikan (slingshots), peashooters, hiringga during San Jan, movies, fighting cocks, and of course food!

Alto magirada! I recalled always pronouncing it as marigada instead of magirada! Probably just one of the reasons why our Castellano padres were mortified with the way their noble tongue was barbarized, thence the reason why they looked down on Chavacano (or Chabacano, if our compoblano Antonio Enriquez had his way) as a bastardized form of Spanish, when in fact it was not, but is a living language of its own, its 70% Spanish content notwithstanding, with other contributions from Fukien and other dialects which at one time or another were in vogue in Zamboanga, including Ingles, Japon, Bisaya, Illongo, and many more.

Christmas in Zamboanga as a child remains vivid to me as it was to Ñor Cesar, with the setting up of the Christmas tree and lights as welcome an event as it was to him. Not only did we have Chinese for neighbors, our next door neighbors in the apartment were Bombay, being the Parmanand family of the Calcutta Bazaar. I can't forget even till today the way Mr. Pama used to set up, in the middle of the street full of exploding firecrackers on New Year's Eve, his kwitis (baby rocket) in a coke bottle and light it.

I let out a particularly loud guffaw when I came to the section about unwanted carolers or pastores, as we called them. I didn't realize there were already too many of them even during the 1930's and, if anything, the problem has even multiplied in scale! But the good memories always outweigh the bad, and I had particularly fond memories of the cumbancheros, unlicensed carolers who usually were older folks who came by later at night with their harmonicas and drums made of bamboo tubes with one end tied with rubber tube "skins" to specialize in "instrumental" Christmas carols.

Besides Ñor Cesar's book, I was also curious about Imago Press, his publisher, which was started in 2002 by Leila Joiner, when she was taking a creative writing class, and the teacher wanted the people in his class to publish a book of their work. The class was sponsored by The OASIS Institute, a national non-profit organization devoted to ongoing education for people over 50.

"OASIS has centers in 26 US cities. The book was a success, and the following year we went national with it (the first issue was local to Tucson AZ). Thus the OASIS Journal was born, which rapidly grew from a modest 100 pages to over 350 pages annually of short fiction, short non-fiction, and poetry by writers over 50," Ms. Joiner said.

"I'm 71, and have been writing on and off myself since I was a child, so I know how difficult it is for older people to get published, especially if they've never been published before. So it just seemed natural to focus on older writers. I chose the name of the press with that in mind: 'imago' is the adult form of an insect, like a butterfly, for example. Hence my logo, a butterfly inside the AZ state outline," she added.

Well, bless your heart Leila Joiner! Even just for Cesar Lee's Zamboanga Remembered, you'd provided us migrants to other places a reason to remember and perhaps visit Zamboanga again, one of these days. Muchas gracias, Ñor Cesar y Ñora Leila! Dios te bendiga!

WindLady: hello.. unsa ang meaning sa "sumo"??? suhmut ba ese?


GearX: interesting... what example of japanese words? fo0ds only?

All set for hosting of national Prisaa games


PRIVATE Schools Athletic Association (Prisaa) regional executive director Elbert Atilano Sr. announced that all is set for the conduct of the national Prisaa meet to be held next month in Zamboanga City.

Atilano announced that the Prisaa meet would run from April 8 to 14 and will be participated in by private schools from Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao.

The 15-man Prisaa national board unanimously voted to elect Zamboanga City as the host of this year's private sports event, according to Atilano.

Atilano said at least 4,000 athletes, coaches, and other school staff from the entire country are coming to the city for the seven-day national athletic event.

"The preparations are virtually complete. The city is now 80 percent prepared and the remaining 20 percent will happen when the delegates from the regions arrive," he said.

The different athletic events will be held at the Joaquin F. Enriquez Jr. Memorial Sports Complex (JFEJMSC) in the village of San Jose-Cawa-Cawa.

Atilano said the local government has released P2 million for the refurbishing of some of the sports facilities at the complex.

Aside from the sports facilities, Atilano said they have also prepared billeting places for the participating delegations.

Zamboanga City's hosting of the national Prisaa games this year is its third. The first was in 1993 and the second in 2005.

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo is expected to be the guest of honor for this year's national Prisaa games. (Bong Garcia)

WindLady: hello.. unsa ang meaning sa "sumo"??? suhmut ba ese?


GearX: interesting... what example of japanese words? fo0ds only?


^^sumo means nakakasawa na:nuts: hehehehehehe

WindLady: hello.. unsa ang meaning sa "sumo"??? suhmut ba ese?


GearX: interesting... what example of japanese words? fo0ds only?

japanes words... included, but not realy familiar in the Chavacano de Zamboanga lexicon instead in the two varieties of Chavacano de Davao (davoaeño) and cotabato(cotabateño)...

but mostly the speakers of these chavacano which japanese, chinese are include in their lexicon... are so called Zamboangueño-Chino Chavacano speakers.. pero "con nosotros" (to us) native Zamboangueño or any Chavacano dialects doesnt used it anymore.... or we dont include that in our daily lexicon.

i guess its "suh-mot" ellos alla arriba ya escribi el palabra "sumo" para no tanto notable na ojos del mana foronos leeandores...

All set for hosting of national Prisaa games


PRIVATE Schools Athletic Association (Prisaa) regional executive director Elbert Atilano Sr. announced that all is set for the conduct of the national Prisaa meet to be held next month in Zamboanga City.

Atilano announced that the Prisaa meet would run from April 8 to 14 and will be participated in by private schools from Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao.

The 15-man Prisaa national board unanimously voted to elect Zamboanga City as the host of this year's private sports event, according to Atilano.

Atilano said at least 4,000 athletes, coaches, and other school staff from the entire country are coming to the city for the seven-day national athletic event.

"The preparations are virtually complete. The city is now 80 percent prepared and the remaining 20 percent will happen when the delegates from the regions arrive," he said.

The different athletic events will be held at the Joaquin F. Enriquez Jr. Memorial Sports Complex (JFEJMSC) in the village of San Jose-Cawa-Cawa.

Atilano said the local government has released P2 million for the refurbishing of some of the sports facilities at the complex.

Aside from the sports facilities, Atilano said they have also prepared billeting places for the participating delegations.

Zamboanga City's hosting of the national Prisaa games this year is its third. The first was in 1993 and the second in 2005.

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo is expected to be the guest of honor for this year's national Prisaa games. (Bong Garcia)


wow! muy maravillosa...

no wonder, nosotros firmi el ta gana na mana nominado para queda hogar de torneo (home court/host)!

vosotros era, nuestra ciudad tiene el mas completo equipo, y etc...

tambien mas bueno ese para con aquellos quien tiene mal impression haciando a nuestra ciudad se hay cambia!asi?

i dont think tiene plaito que ya ocuri, pero asuguraomente tene discusion pero ese duiscusion es parte na mana debate especialmente si nosotros ta man cambia idea y saber por ellos y vise versa!

pero para conmigo, no este macasuh-mot... actualmente tiene de estos aqui mana articulo que yo mismo no sabe pa...y aqui lang tambien yo ya sabe! y mas cree yo que mayoria de estos aqui mana articulo acerca de promocion para la ciudad de zamboanga es bien informativo y tiene de buen calidad...

Gracias y paz por el apreciamiento!

PIA Press Release
2008/03/04


Zambo City thanks Taiwan Gov't for including city in its goodwill mission


Zamboanga City (4 March) -- Mayor Celso Lobregat last night applauded the outstanding performance of Taiwan's Keelung Chung Cheng Junior High School Folk Sports Troupe as he expressed gratitude to the Taiwanese government for including Zamboanga City in the list of areas for its goodwill mission the last four years.
The spectacular performance, dubbed as 2008 Lunar New Year Tawainese Goodwill Mission and held at the City Coliseum in Tetuan was witnessed by thousands of people from the cross-section of the community.
Presented by the Overseas Compatriot Affairs Commission of Taiwan, the one and a half hour was co-sponsored by the Zamboanga Filipino-Chinese Chamber of Commerce, Inc. and the Zamboanga Chong Hua High School Board of Trustees in cooperation with Mayor Celso Lobregat.
The troupe's visit to Zamboanga is part of a 5-country tour and in the Philippines only Zamboanga and Tarlac are the selected performance sites. The group visited Malaysia and Thailand and from the Philippines, it will proceed to Vietnam and Japan.
"It is a pleasure to welcome the Taiwanese folk sports troupe", the mayor declared in a press conference with the performers and officials from the Overseas Compatriot Affairs Commission and Taiwan Economic Cultural Office at the City Hall conference room yesterday morning.
Jacqueline Lie, Deputy Representative from the Taiwan Economic Cultural Office expressed elation over the warm welcome afforded to the performers and the delegation of Taiwan officials to the city.
"You have a lovely, nice and place, the people are so warm and your mayor is so nice", Lie replied when asked why Zamboanga was one of the only two cities selected for the goodwill mission this year.
The goodwill mission is not only in celebration of the lunar new year but also to promote understanding and cultural exchange, she said.
The performance at the City Coliseum last night was a combination of music, dance, folk arts and sports. It was divided into 7 parts: the ancestors migrating to Taiwan, Diablo spinning, amazing iron fans, folk attractions of Naluwan, Top Twirling, Welcome a whole new year and the rope skipping.
The troupe's outstanding performance has attracted international attention. The group has been invited to perform in large festivals all over the world including the United States, Canada, Germany, France, Austria, Switzerland, Holland, Netherlands and several others.
Meanwhile, thousands of people trooped to the City Coliseum to witness the breath taking performance of Folk Sports Troupe.
The crowd, composed of students, professionals, barangay folks and employees—both from the government and private institutions marveled at the world class performance of the 40-man troupe.
Mayor Lobregat on the other hand, thanked the Zamboanga Filipino Chinese Chamber of Commerce Inc. led by Wee Sion Ben and the Zamboanga Chong Hua High School Board of Trustees for making the Taiwanese goodwill mission in Zamboanga possible. The mission is now on its fourth year in Zamboanga. Last year, the performance was an acrobatic show. (CIO/PIA ZC)

PIA Press Release
2008/02/04


Region 9 deal: Pagadian as reg'l gov't center; Zamboanga as industrial center


Zamboanga City (February 4) -- To eliminate resistance from Zamboanga City officials for the implementation of Executive Order 429 in favor of Pagadian City, Malacañang promised to make the former the industrial or trade center in Region IX.
With this arrangement, City Government officials of Pagadian are now more relaxed in addressing issues and concerns for the transfer of regional offices to this city following a calibrated scheme as agreed by the Technical Working Group under the supervision of Secretary Silvestre Bello III, the Presidential Assistant on New Regional Government Centers.
During the 6th Regional Transfer TWG held here last January 15, Pagadian City officials headed by City Mayor Samuel Co have agreed with their counterparts from Zamboanga City officials that every time the TWG meets, discussion on making Zamboanga City an Industrial Center should also be tackled.
With Mayor Co were City Councilors Wilson Co, Arnulfo Garcia, Bienvenido Culve, Arnold Gavenia and SK Federation President Fausto Lingating together with Engr. Leonila Sisona, the Executive Director of the Pagadian Regional Center-Management and Coordinating Office and her staff.
On the other hand, Zamboanga City Mayor Celso Lobregat sent city councilors Juan Climaco Elago, Lynette Abarro, Rudy Lim and Asbi Edding who voiced out their apprehension of possible economic infertility as soon as majority of the regional offices move out to Pagadian, the new regional center.
Elago, in agitation said Zamboanga City would be disadvantaged because of the vacuum left as soon as all the regional offices will be transferred to Pagadian.
Elago added that while discussing the transfer of regional offices to Pagadian, the TWG should also discuss Zamboanga City's 3 main projects which need budget allocation from the national government, such as: 1) new airport; 2) new industrial seaport and 3) circumferential road.
The Zamboanga City solon was hopeful that these projects will offset the economic and social vacuum by the time the over 7,000 regional employees and their dependents are already settled in Pagadian.
NEDA Regional Director Rafael Evangelista presided the said meeting. He told the body that he was commissioned by Assistant Secretary Danny Encenas of the office of Presidential Assistant on New Government Centers.
In that meeting, Regional Directors Julita Ragandang (DAR), Oscar Parawan (DA), Brenda Nazareth (DOST); DENR Regional Technical Director Reynaldo Bayabos and DPWH's Winefreda Constantino were called to give updates on the status of their full transfer to this city. The bottomline of the matter is that Pagadian people simply "want to push what has been promised that the city will be converted into a business district in the region." (PBB/PIA 9-zc)

PIA Press Release
2008/03/07


OMA abolition eyed; National Commission on Muslim Filipinos proposed


By Mimi G. Bern-Edaga (piazambocity@yahoo.com)
Zamboanga City (March 7) -- A public hearing on the proposed Bill on National Commission on Muslim Filipinos was conducted yesterday at the Western Mindanao State University (WMSU) Social Hall.
Second District Rep. Erico Basilio Fabian, chairman of the Committee on Government Reorganization and Lanao Representative Pangalian Balindong of the Committee on Muslim Affairs said their group is here today for the public hearing on the proposed consolidated bill which seeks to create the National Commission on Muslim Filipinos.
Fabian said the coordinating secretariat of the two committees has contacted the OMA to work out the list of invitees, mostly leaders of Muslim organizations and the representatives from the different Muslim tribes.
Once the proposed bill would be passed into law, the Office of Muslim Affairs will then be abolished and replaced by the National Commission on Filipino Muslims.
Rep. Balindong shared that the important feature of the proposed bill is the representation of all the Muslim tribes such as the Maranao, Maguindanao, Tausog, Yakan and Samal to the Commission through 7 commissioner-tribal representatives.
Rep. Fabian on the other hand pointed out that the proposed bill has passed through the 13th Congress but failed to reach the Senate for lack of time.
Ask on the safety features of the proposed bill in relation to the peace agreements signed by the MILF and the GRP panel, Reps. Fabian and Balindong were one in saying that series of committee hearings with stakeholders were earlier done in Manila and fortunately, no opposition has been met so far. He added that a technical working group headed by Rep. Rufus B. Rodriquez has also been formed to consolidate bills of the same tune.
On the other hand, Zamboanga City Mayor Celso Lobregat reserved his comment about the proposed bill until he hears what the attendees have to say.
However, he was quick to voice out the sentiments of the Zamboaguenos on the creation of the Bangsamoro judicial entity. While Muslims and Zamboanguenos both long for a lasting peace in Zamboanga, Lobregat said the "95% and 96% "no results" respectively to the two plebiscites on the inclusion of Zamboanga City to the bangsamoro homeland, is a clear indication that Zamboanga City and its residents doesn't want to be a part it." He emphasized that the plebiscite results reveal that even Muslim residents in Zamboanga City voted against the inclusion of Zamboanga City to the Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao (ARMM). (PIA 9/zc)

Zambo selected for TAG-3 project


Zamboanga City (5 March) -- Zamboanga City has been chosen as one of the only nine cities nationwide where follow-on activity for the Transparent Accountable Governance (TAG) project initiated by the Asia Foundation and the League of Cities.
Mayor Celso Lobregat said under the TAG-3 project, the Asia Foundation with funding aid from the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) will provide technical assistance to the city government in the field of Real Property Tax System (RPTS) to improve overall business environment, increase competitiveness and increase city revenues for additional services and projects.
Asia Foundation consultants yesterday were in the city for a prioritization workshop where the city government and stakeholders in the tax collection system identified a reform agenda.
The consultants included Cesar Cuyugan and Prof. Julieta Bokingo.
According to Lobregat, Zamboanga City is originally one of the 16 cities nationwide included in the early phase of the TAG project which focused on the Business Processing Licensing System (BPLS).
He said the project saw the city government of Zamboanga working together with the private sector and civil society partners to improve the issuance and renewal of business permits to increase local revenues and to make it easier for local businessmen to legally conduct business within the city.
The improvement of the real property tax system is being sought in a bid to improve services and implement more projects.
One half percent of the real property collection goes to the special education fund which is used to finance the personal services of local school board teachers, the construction and repair of school buildings, comfort rooms, fences and participation in division and regional meets.
Also present during the TAG 3 Prioritization workshop held at the Garden Orchid Hotel yesterday were City Planning Officer Melinda Cabato who talked on the city's economic profiles, the annual investment plan and the investment code; Assistant City Budget Officer Ferdie Alvarez who delved on the city budget; City Treasurer Soledad Li who spoke about business tax collection and City Licensing Officer Dangin Jacinto who presented the businesses registered and number of medium and small economic enterprises operating in the city.
City Assessor Erwin Bernardo gave the welcome remarks. The TAG project is one of the interventions that the city government has been receiving since its enrollment in the City Development Strategies (CDS) project of the League of Cities. (CIO/PIA 9-zc)

Emergency response teams activated for Lenten Season
Thursday, March 20, 2008

THE City Health Office (CHO) has activated emergency response teams to provide medical assistance to devotees who might suffer health problems while on the course of penitence during the observance of the Lenten Season.

CHO chief Rodel Agbulos said they have organized and activated three emergency response teams that would be deployed at Mayor Cesar C. Climaco Freedom Park commonly known as Abong-Abong Park, the center of religious activities on Maundy Thursday and Good Friday.

Thousands of Catholic faithful from the different villages of this city including from nearby provinces, foreign and domestic tourists gather at Abong-Abong Park for the way of the cross since it is where the station of the cross is located.

They usually spent overnight in the place since most if not all of them gathers at the Abong-Abong Park on Maundy Thursday and goes home on Good Friday just after the seven last words mass.

Agbulos said the three emergency response teams will be deployed in strategic areas of the park to provide assistance to people who might experience health problems like heat stroke and others.

Agbulos said the emergency response teams of physicians and personnel from the Philippine National Red Cross-Zamboanga City chapter, Zamboanga City Medical Center Stop Death response team and other concerned agencies will stay at Abong-Abong Park from 8 a.m. of Maundy Thursday until 3 p.m. of Good Friday. (Bong Garcia)

Lenten Season ya tamen..subi kita na abong-abong....

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JOLLIBEE - SHOPPER'S CENTER MALL
will be Opening Soon as the 11th Jollibee Store in Zamboanga

Lenten Season ya tamen..subi kita na abong-abong....

^^nya subi ta na abong abong zoroe, si tiene to time man picture tamen alia ariba kabar man post aki... have a blessed lent ahead.:)

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JOLLIBEE - SHOPPER'S CENTER MALL
will be Opening Soon as the 11th Jollibee Store in Zamboanga


^^hala bien manada yalang gayod kita jollibee ali hehehehe era otro ya tamen like wendy"s :cheers:

Zambo to host PRISAA National Games this April

Angel Tiamson-Saceda/MindaNews
Thursday, 20 March 2008 09:04
ZAMBOANGA CITY (MindaNews/19 March) – At least 4,000 athletes, coaches, and officials from the country’s 17 regions will converge in this city for the 38th Private Schools Athletes Association (PRISAA) National Games come April 8 to 14. It is the third time for Zamboanga City to host this annual sports competition -- the first time in 1993 and the second in 2005. According to the PRISAA national project director, Prof. Elbert Atilano, positive media reports about the city and the warm reception of Zamboangueños to visiting delegates have apparently encouraged more schools from Luzon and Visayas to join this year's competition.

"We are very pleased that our city has been chosen to host (the games) this year, particularly because the number of delegates has almost doubled compared to the last time Zamboanga hosted the national games," said Mayor Celso Lobregat.

Sixteen schools will be hosting the regional delegations, and with the increased number of participants, the mayor has requested the public school sector to provide additional billeting venues for student athletes.

The city government has allotted a budget of P2 million for operational expenses and the repair and improvement of some facilities of the competition's venue, the Joaquin Enriquez Jr. Memorial Sports Complex. Total operational cost of the PRISAA national games is between P11 and P12 million.

The sports complex will serve as the main venue for sports events such as basketball, baseball, sepak takraw, softball, football, volleyball, swimming, lawn tennis and athletics. Competitions on table tennis and chess will be held at Pilar College, and events on taekwondo, karatedo, judo, and badminton at the Ateneo de Zamboanga University. The dancesport competition and contests on vocal solo and search for Mutya ng PRISAA will be held at the Zamboanga City Summit Center.

"Zamboanga City athletes are preparing for this year's competition. We expect tougher competition, as the National Capital Region delegation will arrive in full force," Atilano said. He added that the city's athletes are confident they will excel in taekwondo, karatedo, swimming, and athletics.

Last year, the PRISAA National Games was hosted by Iloilo City with the Western Visayas region as the overall winner, followed by Northern Mindanao and Southern Tagalog.

PRISAA is an organization of private schools all over the country with a vision to serve as a venue for sports, academic, and cultural development of the Filipino youth. It developed several outstanding athletes who represented the country in international competitions, which include renowned sprinter Mona Soliman from Mindanao and shot put and discus throw athlete Josephine dela Viña from the Visayas. (Angel Tiamson-Saceda / MindaNews) :cheers:

^^nya subi ta na abong abong zoroe, si tiene to time man picture tamen alia ariba kabar man post aki... have a blessed lent ahead.:)


bonito se....ARRIBA! Subi ARRIBA y saca retrato pero aquel hora de escuridad para bonito mira el mana luzes abajo!

Nosotros aqui na Wikipedia en Chavacano de Zamboanga ta invita con todos mana interesante Zamboangueño Hablantes para contribuji... tu ayuda es bien importante cay esos de vosotros cada y uno saber hay puede ayuda grande por el Pueblo Zamboangueño y pais de Filipinas.

puede vosotros aqui crea articulo na tu deseo, tambien puede vosotros corregi o edita el mana ortografia que ta mira vosotros hende amo....

este Wikipedia en Chavacano de Zamboanga es un encyclopedia de Net que tiene ta sigui estandar y este wikipedia es para la internacional para todos gente aqui na mundo ha puede mira y hace el enbusqueda!

tambien publice vosotros aqui el de vosotros mana articulo se escribido en Chavacano, y los traducciones desde ingles a chavacano..

y otras articulos acerca de filipinas, zamboanga y filipinas desde escribido en ingles hay traduci para chavacano y ademas publice alla na wikipedia...

pero no vosotros man liyos o esta lingasa si mucho o munton de mala(mali) na vuestro ortografia y grammar nosotros wikipediano ya se el cuidao para corregi, edita, modifica y mejora...

por ultimo, el mision de este wikipedia en Chavcano de Zamboanga no solamente para la preservacion sino para la propagacion, mentenimiento y para la mejoramiento del idioma chavacano.

Buen Noticia para todos, tiene ya mas de diez personal que ya gradua na doctoral bajo na estudiada del idioma chavacano.

asegun con alguno profesor, el grammar del chavacano es no bastante simple como cosa ya habla si profesor Bascar siendo el chavcano grammatica es bien un poco complicado cay puera na past,present,future tenses, tiene tambien este como ensiguidas: past,present and future perfect tenses, tambien mana participles...

puede tambien vosotros vene aqui na wikipedia en ingles..

aqui abajo na mi mana enlace, escogi lang vosotros alli...!

Muchas Gracias a todos por este mi momento que ya puede yo explica y dale mi anuncimiento...