Queber se, ahora lang daw ya llega el eroplano de CEPACTAKRAW na Manila Airport Terminal3!! Kalastima man. pero sige lng daw, yan enjoy man daw sila na de illa stay aqui..:lol: Yan text sila, grande daw gayod el de illa utang na loob, habla yo "De nada!" :lol:



ese el mas importante!;-)
alegre y sin arrepentimiento!;-)

ese el mas importante!;-)
alegre y sin arrepentimiento!;-)

in other words - "BUSINESS WITH PLEASURE!" :hilarious

entonces, el EF**K el culpable de esos atrocidad sila ya experiencia... Yan OT sila no hay na hora basta lang puede encontra sen, espera ya lang gayod sila conel maga pasajeros llega y carga con el de illa maga bagahe. :lol::lol::lol:


basih por cuantos anos gaja no hay yan junto por eso ese. . .
ta queda gat dol aquel ba tiene gat ellos de ellos mismo mundo...:):)


Marl, cualquier comento acerca el recomendacion mio contigo?

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Xmas...

^^

ese bale! panoramic view del City Hall during Pascua. Gracias por el post. Etu se ya saca? :okay:

^^

ese bale! panoramic view del City Hall during Pascua. Gracias por el post. Etu se ya saca? :okay:

YUPS... and tnx

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plaza del pilar

They need to do something about this place.. mahina el negosyo aqui

aqui iyo ya lleve con el maga estudyante de UST kome na STK Food Haus adentr. Unli el rice. :lol:

Guys, not everyone in the Philippines understands Chavacano / Spanish (unlike Bisaya, Tagalog, etc). Let's be considerate naman. Hindi naman dahil sa we want to preserve the Chavacano dialect eh we have to use it every time we talk to anyone (even to people who don't understand it!). What's the use of speaking Chavacano if only a handful of people here understands you, anyway? Yes, this is a thread for Zamboanga City and we can choose whatever language / dialect we wish to use here BUT, as much as possible, we need to open our communication lines with people from other places if we want to "sell" the city to them.

I know that some of you would ignore this message and insist on using Chavacano HERE even though you've already been told several times. I hope everyone will be enlightened by this message.

They need to do something about this place.. mahina el negosyo aqui

i think there's nothing wrong with the place its already attractive with its latin design, the question is if our spending power is catching up with the growing food chain in the city more and more resto is opening but offices are slow

sample

zamboanga people has a spending power of 45%
then
zamboanga resto has a service power of 75%

so ang ending d cia balance some resto will be left empty handed in competition

dapat ganito ang ratio

spending power 75%
service power is 45%

im sure lahat resto puno^^


pwede din

local spending power is 45%
tourist spending power is around 20%

then ang

resto service power is around 75%

pwede pa ^^

Guys, not everyone in the Philippines understands Chavacano / Spanish (unlike Bisaya, Tagalog, etc). Let's be considerate naman. Hindi naman dahil sa we want to preserve the Chavacano dialect eh we have to use it every time we talk to anyone (even to people who don't understand it!). What's the use of speaking Chavacano if only a handful of people here understands you, anyway? Yes, this is a thread for Zamboanga City and we can choose whatever language / dialect we wish to use here BUT, as much as possible, we need to open our communication lines with people from other places if we want to "sell" the city to them.

I know that some of you would ignore this message and insist on using Chavacano HERE even though you've already been told several times. I hope everyone will be enlightened by this message.


absolutely right...

yes i do read, write and understand Chavacano... but let us be sensitive to other users of this site... i myself skip reading those posts and comments that are written in Chavacano...

have a great day everyone

Some things to watch out for in 2011.

BANKING
Bangko Sentral Ng Pilipinas Complex
3 PNB Branches
3 BDO Branches
PS Bank Branch

BDO plans to open only one branch this year. they're targeting GUIWAN or Veterans.

^^ Guiwan is strategic place to open it's another branch. All BDO branches in Zamboanga are too far to go banking.

BDO plans to open only one branch this year. they're targeting GUIWAN or Veterans.

puede sa Tetuan na lng? ung sa mismong bakanteng lote sa side ng bahay namin? :rofl: para if ever may promo cebpac at magbook online sa midnight, tas antay ako magopen sila 8:00 para magpay OTC... :nuts::nuts::lol::lol::lol:

BDO plans to open only one branch this year. they're targeting GUIWAN or Veterans.

Sir can you give us update about Robinsons? thanks and God bless :)

^^yes sir, any updates? thanks

yeah, updates. haha!


OT: day by day, padami ng padami nag pupunta sa SCI. khpon lng 8 total groups ang pumunta doon sa Sta.Cruz Island. one group composes of a korean family that's totaling to 10. :okay:

BDO plans to open only one branch this year. they're targeting GUIWAN or Veterans.

So what I saw on a previous post was right then. I was scrolling through the posts in the compiled threads of ZC when I came across a post saying that a person (bank manager, I guess) working in BDO-Pilar Street revealed that the bank is looking for a site to open a new branch. I thought there were amendments on the plan because the succeeding posts there stated that there would be 3 upcoming branches of BDO in the city. Thank you for the correction, Sir! :)

If BDO would open a branch in Guiwan, it would be the sixth bank to do so after BPI, Metrobank, Allied Bank, Chinabank, and One Network Bank. :okay:

yeah, updates. haha!


OT: day by day, padami ng padami nag pupunta sa SCI. khpon lng 8 total groups ang pumunta doon sa Sta.Cruz Island. one group composes of a korean family that's totaling to 10. :okay:

That's great news! :banana: yan talga ang kailangan natin..mga turista para mawala na ang bad impression sa city natin. I hope the LGU will intensify its campaign in promoting zamboanga in the tourism industry!

Guys, not everyone in the Philippines understands Chavacano / Spanish (unlike Bisaya, Tagalog, etc). Let's be considerate naman. Hindi naman dahil sa we want to preserve the Chavacano dialect eh we have to use it every time we talk to anyone (even to people who don't understand it!). What's the use of speaking Chavacano if only a handful of people here understands you, anyway? Yes, this is a thread for Zamboanga City and we can choose whatever language / dialect we wish to use here BUT, as much as possible, we need to open our communication lines with people from other places if we want to "sell" the city to them.

I know that some of you would ignore this message and insist on using Chavacano HERE even though you've already been told several times. I hope everyone will be enlightened by this message.


>>>>i am more on being a Patriotic!;-) i love my culture! Language defines a culture!;-) banning in using the birth-language of the city (formerly Republica de Zamboanga) is totally a betrayal to one's identity!
Tribes from other Hilo uses their own language but when peopl ask them to translate that's the only time they translated it to other language.
in this case, i rather publish in my own native language as i wish masquen importante pa el issue. since i've started on 2007, ralo lang yo ta escribi na Ingles sino firmi na Lenguaje Zamboangueño!

even Windlady gave her emphasis when she first created the Zamboanga Thread 1... She gave importance in using the Zamboangueño Latino's Language rather than in extranijero's language.
if they who can't understand wants a certain issue to be translated, so be it... but to banned in using my Zamboangueño Language is terribly unacceptable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ya dura ya yo aqui... por eso gane yo taqui cay precura yo promove el Cultura Zamboangueño!!!! conversa su lenguaje con Orgollo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hasta para cuando NUNCA GAYOT yo cumple na tu condicion.... NO HAY yo quever si hay QUITA man o Prohibi man USTED conmigo...

>>>>i am more on being a Patriotic!;-) i love my culture! Language defines a culture!;-) banning in using the birth-language of the city (formerly Republica de Zamboanga) is totally a betrayal to one's identity!
Tribes from other Hilo uses their own language but when peopl ask them to translate that's the only time they translated it to other language.
in this case, i rather publish in my own native language as i wish masquen importante pa el issue. since i've started on 2007, ralo lang yo ta escribi na Ingles sino firmi na Lenguaje Zamboangueño!

even Windlady gave her emphasis when she first created the Zamboanga Thread 1... She gave importance in using the Zamboangueño Latino's Language rather than in extranijero's language.
if they who can't understand wants a certain issue to be translated, so be it... but to banned in using my Zamboangueño Language is terribly unacceptable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ya dura ya yo aqui... por eso gane yo taqui cay precura yo promove el Cultura Zamboangueño!!!! conversa su lenguaje con Orgollo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hasta para cuando NUNCA GAYOT yo cumple na tu condicion.... NO HAY yo quever si hay QUITA man o Prohibi man USTED conmigo...

Tupaw! :banana:

i myself skip reading those posts and comments that are written in Chavacano...


I guess I'm not alone then in skipping posts / comments written in Chavacano. :lol:

That's great news! :banana: yan talga ang kailangan natin..mga turista para mawala na ang bad impression sa city natin. I hope the LGU will intensify its campaign in promoting zamboanga in the tourism industry!




(ESCRIBIENDO NA LENGUAJE ZAMBOANGUEñO)
jendeh lang el LGU de aton sino masquen kita mismo puede tambien promove el Ciudad de Zamobanga de aton.... Como yo!
masquen taqui yo afuera del pais, ta hace gat yo conoce con el Ciudad de aton... que bonito, por este, por aquel! jendeh dura, ellos ya mismo ta habla "Quiere man gat yo alli anda!!" habla tambien yo, no problemo...

meintras tan cuento tambien kame dos mi esposa despues tiene Arabo ta oi conamon.. ta pregunta gayot "r u Filipino? but u speak differently! so you'r outside Manila right?" constesta tambien yo! "sI! de Zamboanga Soy! un Ciudad Hispanica donde el mana Zamobangueño Latino esta orgulloso con su Idioma como kame ta conversa ahora ---el LENGUAJE Zamboangueño Chavacano."... repuesta tambien el AraBO... "wow! thats nice.... i wanna go to your place but are the Abusayaf present in your City?" ya respuesta tambien yo "No! en paz y tranquilo el Ciudad de amon!!! siendo que el de amon Ciudad es el UNA o PRimer CIUDAD CATOLICA na entero MIndanao y el Una Ciudad donde que ya estlabece le su UNA y PRIMER SOVERINA el Republica de Zamobanga" pero ese ya perde cuando el mana Amejicano ya conquera con el Republica de Zamboanga.. pero este esta existe siempre hasta el año 1903 antes este ya inclui na Republica de Las Filipinas del año 1904 bajo Commowealth de Manuel Queaon." (mientras ta explica yo, el Arabo ta oi gayot tambien conmigo....)

I guess I'm not alone then in skipping posts / comments written in Chavacano. :lol:



amo se el umaling con algunos mana Zamboangueño Hablantes alli...
sarcastica gayot... tampa todo ya... que no quiere conversa Zamboangueño!
pero si na otro lugar ya ta dale gayot bien grande emphasis "Zamboangueño Yo".
mucho ya yo ya conoce aqui afuera, masquen talli yo na Filipinas peroa afuera del Ciudad... ta habla gat sila "Zamboangueño YO! Y zAMBOANGUEñO CHAVACANO EL DE AMON LENGUAJE""
pero cuando talla pa ele na su Ciudad "Ta pone verguenza con su Cultura"
jendeh guachinaggo gane gayot?! Traidor pa na su Herencia!!!

absolutely right...

yes i do read, write and understand Chavacano... but let us be sensitive to other users of this site... i myself skip reading those posts and comments that are written in Chavacano...

have a great day everyone



entonces, jendeh tu debe lleva na nombre de "ilovezambo" sino "ihatezambo".

That's great news! :banana: yan talga ang kailangan natin..mga turista para mawala na ang bad impression sa city natin. I hope the LGU will intensify its campaign in promoting zamboanga in the tourism industry!

yeah sa october madami na naga mark ng calendar to visit fiesta and sta. cruz =)

may 8 na ako confirm from cebu^^ group of call center agents na mag vacation dito sa pink sand^^

may students din kaso d ko na ma accommodate hahaha

entonces, jendeh tu debe lleva na nombre de "ilovezambo" sino "ihatezambo".

deberas ace si tan skip to na lenguahe di atun daw yan snub lang tamen tu na dituyo pagka zamboangeño,

si chika lang man ta husa chavacano nuay man problema para mesclao de atun hilo de chavacano eh tagalog e english

:cheers:

deberas ace si tan skip to na lenguahe di atun daw yan snub lang tamen tu na dituyo pagka zamboangeño,

si chika lang man ta husa chavacano nuay man problema para mesclao de atun hilo de chavacano eh tagalog e english

:cheers:


verdad gat se!!!

mucho ya yo yan encuentro Zamboangueño aquellos tampa gayot y sarcastic gayot!
mientras:
>talli na Ciudad tampa tagalo gayot con todo Zamboangueño... que verguenza gayot!!!!

cunado ya llega afuera:
jendeh! zamboangueño yo! tiene kame de amon lenguaje... spanish kame ta conversa (Masquen jendeh cay zambpoangueño chavacano man)... yucks!!! zamboangueño gayot kame! de herencia kame!!!


oh!jendeh ba sarcastica gayot!!! maga verguenzaron gayot estos clase mana gente!!!!

How could you actually share your culture with other people if those people whom you want to share it with don't understand a thing about what you're saying?

If you don't want to introduce Zamboanga City to the Philippines (and perhaps the world) using a language / dialect that most of the Philippines (or the world) understands, fine. If you want to isolate yourselves from the rest of the country, fine. I guess I can do nothing to change the kind of mindset that you've got. Go ahead and live the solitary life you want.

:okay::okay::okay:

From Davao City and Samal Island Thread 118:

speaking as a member of the airline industry, ang may potential talaga ng international flights besides dvo are iloilo and zamboanga..excluding of course manila, clark, and cebu..

:okay:

How could you actually share your culture with other people if those people whom you want to share it with don't understand a thing about what you're saying?

If you don't want to introduce Zamboanga City to the Philippines (and perhaps the world) using a language / dialect that most of the Philippines (or the world) understands, fine. If you want to isolate yourselves from the rest of the country, fine. I guess I can do nothing to change the kind of mindset that you've got. Go ahead and live the solitary life you want.



How did Korea introduce with their korean pop songs isn't korean language? (and now madami na pinoy gusto sa k-pop and even learning their language)

How did MALDITA got the attention people from LUZON, VISAYAS AND MINDANAO d ba CHAVACANO language? (same thing with people interest to learn our culture =) )

very simple =)

and if some one already wants to interact, that's the time will use the world language ENGLISH and if taga dito lang TAGALOG

so i agree when may info using TAGLISH but if chika lang i think we beter use chavacano ^^

How did Korea introduce with their korean pop songs isn't korean language?

How did MALDITA got the attention people from LUZON AND VISAYAS AND MINDANAO d ba CHAVACANO? language

very simple =)

But do the people who listen to those songs actually get what those songs mean / are saying? The content is what matters, not the packaging.

But do the people who listen to those songs actually get what those songs mean / are saying? The content is what matters, not the packaging.

yes but interest to learn of its meaning is an effort to learn our culture =)

meaning if people find it interesting by using our own language (take note its language since spain and europe already consider it as a spanish creole language) then we better often use our language like

another xample

if zamboangeño to anda to cebu para studia el mga hente hende man husa english or tagalog, ta husa sila cebuano man, abla tamen kita kunila uy pwede husa english or tagalog? d ba kita ta prigunta kosa sila tan kwento meaning kita ta pone interest para aprende di ila lenguahe =)

I guess I'm not alone then in skipping posts / comments written in Chavacano. :lol:


STERN HONESTLY, mali rin yan. I mean, if you're not comfortable in reading his posts, so be it. You may have a point that posting in Chavacano may lead to non-chavacano speakers having hard time comprehending, but how about those readers who are even better speaking and comprehending the Spanish literature & language so to speak. If a reader ignores posts written and Chavacano, so be it. No one's forcing you to read it. I may sound rude, but that's the way it is. If you have time, it's my pleasure to let u read Cebu City thread, many of them do write their posts in Visayan. :)


On the other side, I still commend @Acer_cycle for writing his posts to where he is comfortable with - CHAVACANO! In that, it promotes our own dialect to the country and to the world... 'Yo ta rendi muchas gracias contigo Señor! Bravo contigo! :applause: :okay:

STERN HONESTLY, mali rin yan. I mean, if you're not comfortable in reading his posts, so be it. You may have a point that posting in Chavacano may lead to non-chavacano speakers having hard time comprehending, but how about those readers who are even better speaking and comprehending the Spanish literature & language so to speak. If a reader ignores posts written and Chavacano, so be it. No one's forcing you to read it. I may sound rude, but that's the way it is. If you have time, it's my pleasure to let u read Cebu City thread, many of them do write their posts in Visayan. :)


On the other side, I still commend @Acer_cycle for writing his posts to where he is comfortable with - CHAVACANO! In that, it promotes our own dialect to the country and to the world... 'Yo ta rendi muchas gracias contigo Señor! Bravo contigo! :applause: :okay:


exactly, these will give them the effort to learn for those who wants lang naman to learn and if im not mistaken some schools offer spanish subjects^^

so totaly not all were noobies with chavacano its still close related to spanish and mexican =)

But do the people who listen to those songs actually get what those songs mean / are saying? The content is what matters, not the packaging.

You may also find time reading comments from Maldita's Porque video in Youtube.com. thousands of fans they've got all over the country, and many from Latin America do post comments of appreciation. :)

yes but interest to learn of its meaning is an effort to learn our culture =)

meaning if people find it interesting by using our own language (take note its language since spain and europe already consider it as a spanish creole language) then we better often use our language like

another xample

if zamboangeño to anda to cebu para studia el mga hente hende man husa english or tagalog, ta husa sila cebuano man, abla tamen kita kunila uy pwende husa english or tagalog? d ba kita ta prigunta kosa sila tan kwento meaning kita ta pone interest para aprende di ila lenguahe =)

The thing with Cebu and their use of Cebuano language is different. Cebuano is one of the most widely used dialects in the Philippines so it's easily understandable to most people. Chavacano is used by a tiny portion of the Philippine population and Spanish is barely used in the country.

Actually, the situation that you've cited is quite different from the actual situation here. You see, this forum is to discuss developments in the city with your fellow townspeople and people from other places. It's about having a two-way connection and communication with people. We can't achieve that if one party doesn't understand what one party wants to say.

How could you actually share your culture with other people if those people whom you want to share it with don't understand a thing about what you're saying?

If you don't want to introduce Zamboanga City to the Philippines (and perhaps the world) using a language / dialect that most of the Philippines (or the world) understands, fine. If you want to isolate yourselves from the rest of the country, fine. I guess I can do nothing to change the kind of mindset that you've got. Go ahead and live the solitary life you want.

world hehehe did you know with our pass thread some from mexico, and european can understand us? they even commented to our hilo =)

How did Korea introduce with their korean pop songs isn't korean language? (and now madami na pinoy gusto sa k-pop and even learning their language)

How did MALDITA got the attention people from LUZON, VISAYAS AND MINDANAO d ba CHAVACANO language? (same thing with people interest to learn our culture =) )

very simple =)




E diba MALDITA band is now the newest contract artist of VIVA RECORDS?? That means, they have regarded much likeness and appreciation w/ their songs sang in Chavacano. With that, thy have a new album with songs that are actually mixed with Chavacano and in Tagalog.


Bravo Maldita! :applause:

The thing with Cebu and their use of Cebuano language is different. Cebuano is one of the most widely used dialects in the Philippines so it's easily understandable to most people. Chavacano is used by a tiny portion of the Philippine population and Spanish is barely used in the country.

Actually, the situation that you've cited is quite different from the actual situation here. You see, this forum is to discuss developments in the city with your fellow townspeople and people from other places. It's about having a two-way connection and communication with people. We can't achieve that if one party doesn't understand what one party wants to say.

ok to make the story short

if im from manila and i will visit the cebu thread usualy they are using cebuano question will i understad?

or lets not go far if im pure zamboangeño and i will visit cebu thread and naga cebuano sila ang pangutana kung makasabot ba sad ko sa ila ge pang storya? or akung pangutanun sila kung unsa ila ge storya, or akung pangutana mga tao na maka sabot nia e pa sabta ra ko sa ila mga storyahan sa thread =)

STERN HONESTLY, mali rin yan. I mean, if you're not comfortable in reading his posts, so be it. You may have a point that posting in Chavacano may lead to non-chavacano speakers having hard time comprehending, but how about those readers who are even better speaking and comprehending the Spanish literature & language so to speak. If a reader ignores posts written and Chavacano, so be it. No one's forcing you to read it. I may sound rude, but that's the way it is. If you have time, it's my pleasure to let u read Cebu City thread, many of them do write their posts in Visayan. :)


On the other side, I still commend @Acer_cycle for writing his posts to where he is comfortable with - CHAVACANO! In that, it promotes our own dialect to the country and to the world... 'Yo ta rendi muchas gracias contigo Señor! Bravo contigo! :applause: :okay:

Actually, I've already said in an earlier post that I've given up in changing their mindset and that I leave to them the kind of life they wish to live. And I've actually used a similar sentence structure to the one that you've used in the first part of your post. For the Cebu City Thread and their use of the Cebuano dialect, I've explained why it's different from the Zamboanga City and Zamboanga City's use of the Chavacano dialect in my response to Psylock.

ok to make the story short

if im from manila and the cebu thread is usualy using cebuano question do they understad?

or lets not go far if im pure zamboangeñ and i will visit cebu thread and naga cebuano sila ang pangutana kung makasabot ba sad ko sa ila ge pang storya? or akung pangutanun sila kung unsa ila ge storya, or akung pangutana mga tao na maka sabot nia e pa sabta ra ko sa ila mga storya sa thread =)


kay ga chika-chika ra man pud ang mga amiguhun nato sa Cebu thread, kay kato man jud ang ilang lengguahe. Igual lang cunamon di Acer_, kay tan chika-chika:lol: kame, igual kame ta combersa na dialecto Chavacano! :okay:

Actually, I've already said in an earlier post that I've given up in changing their mindset and that I leave to them the kind of life they wish to live. And I've actually used a similar sentence structure to the one that you've used in the first part of your post. For the Cebu City Thread and their use of the Cebuano dialect, I've explained why it's different from the Zamboanga City and Zamboanga City's use of the Chavacano dialect in my response to Psylock.


ganito kasi Stern:


Many of us here do also know how to speak/understand Visayan dialect, because we hear it from people around us speak in Bisaya. Therefore, If non-Chavacano speakers are curious too in our dialect, they will exert more effort by using Spanish-English online translations, clarifying translations one-on-one, matter-loading discussions, and the likes. :)


Much has been said, I rest my case. :)

ok to make the story short

if im from manila and i will visit the cebu thread usualy they are using cebuano question will i understad?

or lets not go far if im pure zamboangeñ and i will visit cebu thread and naga cebuano sila ang pangutana kung makasabot ba sad ko sa ila ge pang storya? or akung pangutanun sila kung unsa ila ge storya, or akung pangutana mga tao na maka sabot nia e pa sabta ra ko sa ila mga storyahan sa thread =)

Why make things difficult for them when we can actually just use a language wherein they won't need to ask for translations and just simply understand every bit of discussion that we have? It's not practical to translate every Chavacano word that we say here just to get a tiny piece of message to someone. The time that it would consume might vanish the interest of people in the city. It's just like a medical practitioner talking to an ordinary patient using medical terms. The patient may be at awe with the words you've used, but at the end of the day, the most important question is: did the patient understand what you intended to say?

ganito kasi Stern:


Many of us here do also know how to speak/understand Visayan dialect, because we hear it from people around us speak in Bisaya. Therefore, If non-Chavacano speakers are curious too in our dialect, they will exert more effort by using Spanish-English online translations, clarifying translations one-on-one, matter-loading discussions, and the likes. :)


Much has been said, I rest my case. :)


in short period hahahaha bitaw ui kung mag cge sad ta chika ug chinavacano ba kay ma retain man na sa mga tao ang mga word by word aldo mu dugay lang pero atleast their getting familiar with it na ba as we daily use it =)

Why make things difficult for them when we can actually just use a language wherein they won't need to ask for translations and just simply understand every bit of discussion that we have? It's not practical to translate every Chavacano word that we say here just to get a tiny piece of message to someone. The time that it would consume might vanish the interest of people in the city. It's just like a medical practitioner talking to an ordinary patient using medical terms. The patient may be at awe with the words you've used, but at the end of the day, the most important question is: did the patient understand what you intended to say?

dito its a good example take note the practitioner might not use medical terms but he or she will use the local dialec or language in simpliest form for the patient to understand

meaning kung ang practitioner is from

cebu
doctor to patient by using cebuano

manila
doctor to patient by using tagalog

zamboanga
doctor to patient by using zamboangenio


this is usualy practice d ba?

same here

cebu thread - binisaya
manila thread - tagalog
zamboanga thread - chavacano =)

ganito kasi Stern:


Many of us here do also know how to speak/understand Visayan dialect, because we hear it from people around us speak in Bisaya. Therefore, If non-Chavacano speakers are curious too in our dialect, they will exert more effort by using Spanish-English online translations, clarifying translations one-on-one, matter-loading discussions, and the likes. :)


Much has been said, I rest my case. :)

Nope, I don't think that it's because of that. It's more like because the words in the Cebuano dialect are much closer to those of most of the dialects in the Philippines that we are familiar with, than Chavacano is. Besides, again, the primary reason people join this forum is to learn about the developments / recent happenings in places and not about the language used in the discussions. Why make it harder for them to get what they primarily want?

Nope, I don't think that it's because of that. It's more like because the words in the Cebuano dialect are much closer to those of most of the dialects in the Philippines that we are familiar with, than Chavacano is. Besides, again, the primary reason people join this forum is to learn about the developments / recent happenings in places and not about the language used in the discussions. Why make it harder for them to get what they primarily want?

my god for the last time stern isn't it that we already agreed that information about development in our city is in ENGLISH or TAGALOG? but for gossip we use chavacano?

when did we post news and development in chavacano? its always in ENGLISH and TAGALOG =)

and beside not all are using chavacano =) its good nga that marlowe and acer is using it atleast alam nila ano un tono ng chavacano

in short period hahahaha bitaw ui kung mag cge sad ta chika ug chinavacano ba kay ma retain man na sa mga tao ang mga word by word aldo mu dugay lang pero atleast their getting familiar with it na ba as we daily use it =)

In the posts just before I posted the message asking everyone to use a language / dialect that most people can understand, Chavacano wasn't just used in discussing gossips or other small, unimportant things - in those posts mentioned, it was used to discuss very informative things. That gesture bothered me because, in the past (just a few days ago actually), most of us discussed important things in a language that any visitor could easily understand, but that changed when, a few hours ago, a few forumers began discussing big things in a dialect that only a small number of people could understand.

In the posts just before I posted the message asking everyone to use a language / dialect that most people can understand, Chavacano wasn't just used in discussing gossips or other small, unimportant things - in those posts mentioned, it was used to discuss very informative things. That gesture bothered me because, in the past (just a few days ago actually), most of us discussed important things in a language that any visitor could easily understand, but that changed when, a few hours ago, a few forumers began discussing big things in a dialect that only a small number of people could understand.

this is not good, why? if we totaly banned the using chavacano in this thread same as well we kill our own chavacano =)

its good to use it sometimes than to totaly eradicate.


and guess what? CHAVACANO makes zamboanga unique and alive. if zamboanga is just a mere bisaya and taosug then walang chance and zamboanga.

(baka ma miss interpret^^ what i mean about walang chance is, bisaya na ang major part of mindanao and it would be very dificult for us to compete if were also bisaya kasi most are already in bisaya na.)

CHAVACANO IS OUR FLAGSHIP always remember that =) with out it were nothing =)

In the posts just before I posted the message asking everyone to use a language / dialect that most people can understand, Chavacano wasn't just used in discussing gossips or other small, unimportant things - in those posts mentioned, it was used to discuss very informative things. That gesture bothered me because, in the past (just a few days ago actually), most of us discussed important things in a language that any visitor could easily understand, but that changed when, a few hours ago, a few forumers began discussing big things in a dialect that only a small number of people could understand.

It's a matter of identity, when your thread or i may say zamboanga thread there should be discussion in chavacano, english or tagalog... hinde lang na chika ta usa. And never forget, you're in zamboanga thread. Visitors wether he/she understand or not it's their problem.... why bother when someone use chavacano dialect? you have to be thankful coz someone used it. Besides, you have to be proud of it... anyway just continue what u want to use english man o tagalog. C pwede ase mix ase entra umpoco dialecto chavacano.:)

this is not good, why? if we totaly banned the using chavacano in this thread same as well we kill our own chavacano =)

its good to use it sometimes than to totaly eradicate.


and guess what? CHAVACANO makes zamboanga unique and alive. if zamboanga is just a mere bisaya and taosug then walang chance and zamboanga.

(baka ma miss interpret^^ what i mean about walang chance is, bisaya na ang major part of mindanao and it would be very dificult for us to compete if were also bisaya kasi most are already in bisaya na.)

CHAVACANO IS OUR FLAGSHIP always remember that =) with out it were nothing =)

Well, I think it's okay to use Chavacano in this forum is only when we discuss a very few minute topics, ie, those that other people won't have the slightest interest in (if ever they understand what the topic of the discussion is).

I don't think that without Chavacano, we'll be nothing - we can still be there, but we may just not be the same as we are now. But, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to kill Chavacano and neither do I consider Chavacano unessential. I love Chavacano, I just don't think it's proper to use it as the only dialect in important discussions here.

para nu hay problema, nunca ya quita usa con el de aton Chavacano.Period. Mga hente alli que quierre tambien combersa Chavacano. No mas ya. Cay ta commanda ya el unu aqui. Adios! :( :( :(

It's a matter of identity, when your thread or i may say zamboanga thread there should be discussion in chavacano, english or tagalog... hinde lang na chika ta usa. And never forget, you're in zamboanga thread. Visitors wether he/she understand or not it's their problem.... why bother when someone use chavacano dialect? you have to be thankful coz someone used it. Besides, you have to be proud of it... anyway just continue what u want to use english man o tagalog. C pwede ase mix ase entra umpoco dialecto chavacano.:)

Everything became complicated when a couple of people here began discussing important things in Chavacano a few hours ago. It was a mutual agreement by most of ZC forumers that we use languages that most people anywhere can understand easily when we discuss important things. I just don't know why all of a sudden, their informative posts were purely in Chavacano. We can't really say that it's not a problem if visitors don't understand what we're talking about here. We don't really get all our reliable sources on different projects from ZC forumers. Many of them come from non-Chavacano folks, who from time to time, drop by this thread to herald some news, correct some infos, etc. There are also some instances when one should consider the possibility that big investors may be lurking through this forum. They may be using this forum to make initial assessment of the happenings in the city, etc. Isolating ourselves through language barrier is not always good.

demolition has started already gale na side de 3rd cup. yun car wash.

I guess I'm not alone then in skipping posts / comments written in Chavacano. :lol:


No, I don't. For information and enrichment.:)

para nu hay problema, nunca ya quita usa con el de aton Chavacano.Period. Mga hente alli que quierre tambien combersa Chavacano. No mas ya. Cay ta commanda ya el unu aqui. Adios! :( :( :(

Don't exaggerate things and indirectly seek the sympathy and alliance of people. Your comprehension of my simple message seems to have been compromised by your impermeable, restricted mindset.

demolition has started already gale na side de 3rd cup. yun car wash.

Thanks for the great news, d_wade03! :colgate:

How did Korea introduce with their korean pop songs isn't korean language? (and now madami na pinoy gusto sa k-pop and even learning their language)

How did MALDITA got the attention people from LUZON, VISAYAS AND MINDANAO d ba CHAVACANO language? (same thing with people interest to learn our culture =) )

very simple =)

and if some one already wants to interact, that's the time will use the world language ENGLISH and if taga dito lang TAGALOG

so i agree when may info using TAGLISH but if chika lang i think we beter use chavacano ^^


Very correct!!! And how did Mexico introduce their finest boxers and became the boxing capital of the world? Most Mexican champions need interpreters! Identity... (i FOR ONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND HEAR PACMAN SPEAK BISAYA ON WORLD TV AND BEING INTERPRETED BY SOMEONE FLUENT IN ENGLISH THAN WHAT HE'S DOING ON INTERVIEWS).:bash:
USING CHAVACANO ION THIS THREAD IS AN ADDED EYE CATCHER.... BUT IF U URSELVES ARE SKIPPING CHAVACANO POSTS... I DON'T KNOW...:ohno:

Buenas Noches!
Que tal Usted?

i like your profile pic!;-)

Empowering Technology and Empowering me Acer_Cyle..este ACer!jejejejejejejeje:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Hahaha... That's acer because I patronize acer products :cheers:

Que tal Usted?


what kind of Rendering and 3D Modeling Software you're using? is it 3D Max with Vray or Sketchup Pro 8 with Vray7? Gracias!;-)

i like your entorage..but on your Butuan City Museum, ur Entorage dominates your structure...

Ow... For the 2 renditions concerning Butuan City Museum and Training Center, I didn't made those, those are actual projects made by the Government... I think Autocad was used...

I guess I'm not alone then in skipping posts / comments written in Chavacano. :lol:

Me too, I skip posts in Chavacano, including english and tagalog waterloo :bash::lol:. But that doesn't bother me. :)


Very correct!!! And how did Mexico introduce their finest boxers and became the boxing capital of the world? Most Mexican champions need interpreters! Identity... (i FOR ONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND HEAR PACMAN SPEAK BISAYA ON WORLD TV AND BEING INTERPRETED BY SOMEONE FLUENT IN ENGLISH THAN WHAT HE'S DOING ON INTERVIEWS).:bash:
USING CHAVACANO ION THIS THREAD IS AN ADDED EYE CATCHER.... BUT IF U URSELVES ARE SKIPPING CHAVACANO POSTS... I DON'T KNOW...:ohno:

hmmm... They were know not because of their language but because of their talents, which doesn't have any correlation with the language they are speaking...

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Chavacano is just a part of Zamboanga's features. What makes Zamboanga different from other cities is "unity in diversity", different cultures in one society. Most minor tribes do know how to speak chavacano...

Don't exaggerate things and indirectly seek the sympathy and alliance of people. Your comprehension of my simple message seems to have been compromised by your impermeable, restricted mindset.


ano ba tlgang problema mo? last time, gusto mo ipatanggal ang signature mo, tas un tinanggal ko na.. ngayon i speak for myself, tinatanggihan mo, so ano pa ang use ko dito ang tinatanggihan mo lang? parang mod ka na rin kung umasta ah... iba tlga level mo bro! di ka ma-reach!


pa impermeable-meable at restricted mindset ka pang nalalaman, sabihin mo na lng narrow-minded ako, para maintindihan ng mga tao! diba un ang gusto mo? para maintindihan ng lahat ng mga mambabasa? tsong naman! kinakain mo rin ang mga salita mo DUUDEEE!!

Very correct!!! And how did Mexico introduce their finest boxers and became the boxing capital of the world? Most Mexican champions need interpreters! Identity... (i FOR ONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND HEAR PACMAN SPEAK BISAYA ON WORLD TV AND BEING INTERPRETED BY SOMEONE FLUENT IN ENGLISH THAN WHAT HE'S DOING ON INTERVIEWS).:bash:
USING CHAVACANO ION THIS THREAD IS AN ADDED EYE CATCHER.... BUT IF U URSELVES ARE SKIPPING CHAVACANO POSTS... I DON'T KNOW...:ohno:

Normal people don't usually buy products whose words on the packaging they do not understand. They would simply return that product on the shelf and pick another one which a package that is understandable. The design and the language used on the packaging of a product should be familiar and understood by most of the consumers if the people behind that product want it to be a hit.

Do I actually have to elaborate that? The issue here is about using a method of communication wherein you can advertise the city to as many people as possible. I don't think using a "foreign" packaging is a good marketing strategy. Most of the people won't have a clue what the content of your product is except for how it would look like if it has a picture on it.

An eye catcher in Davao City "LEARN KOREAN LANGUAGE FOR A GOOD JOB".
How I wish that soon a Slogan "LEARN CHAVACANO FOR A BETTER LIFE" will be seen all over the country.

But do the people who listen to those songs actually get what those songs mean / are saying? The content is what matters, not the packaging.




Yes! Stern!
im very active na wikipedia na Ingles y Zamboangueno, activo tambien yo na Youtube, na facebook, friendster..todo escribiendo na LENGUAJE ZAMBOANUENO Stern!

pero el mana gente interesado ta pregunta gayot y queire gat aprende!

Chavacano Language "NOT" a dialect. it is LANGUAGE with six(6)dialects and with Sub-dialects as we specified in the Wikipedia.

about Maldita?
yes! they do... for those who're INTERESTED to know the meaning. they ask!

there was even a comment i've read from an Ilocano stating "Honestly, Chavacano is the MOST BEAUTIFUL LANGUAGE among the Philippines languages in my whole life living here on earth!!!" imagine that?
then, you're like other Zamboangueno who are Sarcastico y Traidor!

Maldita receaves lots and so many GOOD comments among the People from Latin America, from Europe, from the Philippines herself... so, whats the impact? "people wanted to learn also our Zamboangueno Language, thus most of the people who want to learn more about the Zamboangueno Language are these other Filipinos to include from other countries.. imagine! another, whats the impact? Tourism... many people really wanted to go LATINA CIUDAD DE ZAMBOANGA is because they wanted to interact with the Zamboangueno Latino People" see!?

si usted lang man el esta contra conmigo, noy, bubot pa gat tu para esta contra... ive been using my native language not only here but also in my project's Specifications. cosa el comentario del mana Cliente? alegre pa mira... ambos Zamboangueno y non-zamboangueno...

but there was one who told that he doesn't want to write it in local language but iv told him..okey, better look for another insted me. cosa le hace? okey! dejalo ya lang.. puede ya se!

sabe tu Stern.... language defines one's self personality and Culture... entonces, si quilaya man yo ta escribi o si cosa man lenguaje yo ta usa...it defines me also!!!!


aqui na Bahrain Stern, mucho tambien mana LatinoAmejicano... they were so amazed si ta puede kame de mi esposa comunica con ellos... ta pregunta pa gane "hablo Espanol?" contesta kame "no! hablo zamboangueno" then suddenly these people will reply... "i see...i remember, there's a language in the Philippines who're spoken by latino of asia called Zamboangueno or Chavacano... someday, i also want to go there...para mira el lugar de aton como Hispanica..." jendeh ba, ya promote ya tambien yo el de aton LATINA CIUDAD?


Stern, no gat tu esta contra.... ive been to other palces outside zamboanga city... on my first time, i was so very disappointed..why? becoz these people will NEVER adjust to you masquen tan tagalo o ingles ya tu con ellos... isnteds they will reply "you'll be the one who must adjust to us and not us to you"

por eso.. por causa aquel suceso, jendeh mas ya tambien yo ta hace el mi ajuste si talli yo na ciudad para con aquellos mana ESTRANIJEROS. fuera conocidos!

dejalo lang Stern, simple lang man mi deseo na vida.. algun dia, hay puede tu mira un Establecemiento que el Comunidad solamente ta conversa "Zamboangueno" que na cada dia comunicacion, na documentos, na papeles y otras." inshort "An Architectural Firm of Zamboangueno Chavacano Speaking Community ONYL."

basih algun dia hay aplica tu como un NURZA... mira kita si puede pa tu man-palac!:bash::bash::bash:


por ultimo Stern, si NO quiere USTED lee mis comentarios escribiendo na LENGUAJE ZAMBOANGUENO (el lenguaje de un Zamboangueno Latino), desaleja ya lang USTED!!!:bash::bash::bash:

ano ba tlgang problema mo? last time, gusto mo ipatanggal ang signature mo, tas un tinanggal ko na.. ngayon i speak for myself, tinatanggihan mo, so ano pa ang use ko dito ang tinatanggihan mo lang? parang mod ka na rin kung umasta ah... iba tlga level mo bro! di ka ma-reach!

pa impermeable-meable at restricted mindset ka pang nalalaman, sabihin mo na lng narrow-minded ako, para maintindihan ng mga tao! diba un ang gusto mo? para maintindihan ng lahat ng mga mambabasa? tsong naman! kinakain mo rin ang mga salita mo DUUDEEE!!

Oh, thanks for defining what "narrow-minded" means. I didn't know that it means having a mind open to different possibilities such as the possibility of people creating a wrong impression about the people of Zamboanga just because of one simple signature; the possibility of big investors lurking through this forum to know more about the events in the city directly from its people; and the possibility of having fewer people with interest on the city's latest developments because they can't understand / relate to the discussions.

PS Sorry if those two (or three) words were too big for you. I won't be using them next time I speak with you. Promise.

world hehehe did you know with our pass thread some from mexico, and european can understand us? they even commented to our hilo =)



Psylock, despensa ya lang tu con ese de aton Soltero Bubot... nuevo lang ba se aqui... jendeh igual conaton, de antes pa gayot... ya alcansa pa kita el HILO UNO que ya crea si Windlady...


este pa Psylock, ta senti gat yo grande VERGUENZA na mi cuerpo como un Zamboangueno Latino.. porque?

tena un hilo existe na tema de Chavacano and Heritage Thread... el maca-huya conaton cay JENDEH un zamboangueno ya crea con aquel sino un ILONGO pa gayot!

jendeh Psylock, mismo si Jose Rizal ta conversa Chavacano con Emilio Aguinaldo.. y ele mismo ta escribi carta escribiendo na Ermiteno/Caviteno(Chavacano dialects).. tambien ele mismo ya habla "El que No Amo su Idioma, mas Yede pa na un Pescao bien LAnza!" asi??:banana::banana::banana:

The thing with Cebu and their use of Cebuano language is different. Cebuano is one of the most widely used dialects in the Philippines so it's easily understandable to most people. Chavacano is used by a tiny portion of the Philippine population and Spanish is barely used in the country.

Actually, the situation that you've cited is quite different from the actual situation here. You see, this forum is to discuss developments in the city with your fellow townspeople and people from other places. It's about having a two-way connection and communication with people. We can't achieve that if one party doesn't understand what one party wants to say.



Noy, si el un gente interesado lee de aton hilo despues no comprendo entonces "pedi le favor conaton para traduci el textos desde zamboangueno para ingles". jendeh ba?

Moy, yo ta pasa tambien na thread de Cebu... siendo que jendeh yo ta entende... pero interesado yo sabe, ta pregunta yo y ta pedi yo favor para traduci el textos para conmigo... and they are even happy to see you there...

STERN HONESTLY, mali rin yan. I mean, if you're not comfortable in reading his posts, so be it. You may have a point that posting in Chavacano may lead to non-chavacano speakers having hard time comprehending, but how about those readers who are even better speaking and comprehending the Spanish literature & language so to speak. If a reader ignores posts written and Chavacano, so be it. No one's forcing you to read it. I may sound rude, but that's the way it is. If you have time, it's my pleasure to let u read Cebu City thread, many of them do write their posts in Visayan. :)


On the other side, I still commend @Acer_cycle for writing his posts to where he is comfortable with - CHAVACANO! In that, it promotes our own dialect to the country and to the world... 'Yo ta rendi muchas gracias contigo Señor! Bravo contigo! :applause: :okay:


(Escribiendo na LENGUAJE ZAMBOANGUENO)
muchas gracias senor Marlowe por tu comentario...

y despensa tambien si tene man tiempo ya tresspasa yo contigo!:):):)

Yes! Stern!
im very active na wikipedia na Ingles y Zamboangueno, activo tambien yo na Youtube, na facebook, friendster..todo escribiendo na LENGUAJE ZAMBOANUENO Stern!

pero el mana gente interesado ta pregunta gayot y queire gat aprende!

Chavacano Language "NOT" a dialect. it is LANGUAGE with six(6)dialects and with Sub-dialects as we specified in the Wikipedia.

about Maldita?
yes! they do... for those who're INTERESTED to know the meaning. they ask!

there was even a comment i've read from an Ilocano stating "Honestly, Chavacano is the MOST BEAUTIFUL LANGUAGE among the Philippines languages in my whole life living here on earth!!!" imagine that?
then, you're like other Zamboangueno who are Sarcastico y Traidor!

Maldita receaves lots and so many GOOD comments among the People from Latin America, from Europe, from the Philippines herself... so, whats the impact? "people wanted to learn also our Zamboangueno Language, thus most of the people who want to learn more about the Zamboangueno Language are these other Filipinos to include from other countries.. imagine! another, whats the impact? Tourism... many people really wanted to go LATINA CIUDAD DE ZAMBOANGA is because they wanted to interact with the Zamboangueno Latino People" see!?

si usted lang man el esta contra conmigo, noy, bubot pa gat tu para esta contra... ive been using my native language not only here but also in my project's Specifications. cosa el comentario del mana Cliente? alegre pa mira... ambos Zamboangueno y non-zamboangueno...

but there was one who told that he doesn't want to write it in local language but iv told him..okey, better look for another insted me. cosa le hace? okey! dejalo ya lang.. puede ya se!

sabe tu Stern.... language defines one's self personality and Culture... entonces, si quilaya man yo ta escribi o si cosa man lenguaje yo ta usa...it defines me also!!!!


aqui na Bahrain Stern, mucho tambien mana LatinoAmejicano... they were so amazed si ta puede kame de mi esposa comunica con ellos... ta pregunta pa gane "hablo Espanol?" contesta kame "no! hablo zamboangueno" then suddenly these people will reply... "i see...i remember, there's a language in the Philippines who're spoken by latino of asia called Zamboangueno or Chavacano... someday, i also want to go there...para mira el lugar de aton como Hispanica..." jendeh ba, ya promote ya tambien yo el de aton LATINA CIUDAD?


Stern, no gat tu esta contra.... ive been to other palces outside zamboanga city... on my first time, i was so very disappointed..why? becoz these people will NEVER adjust to you masquen tan tagalo o ingles ya tu con ellos... isnteds they will reply "you'll be the one who must adjust to us and not us to you"

por eso.. por causa aquel suceso, jendeh mas ya tambien yo ta hace el mi ajuste si talli yo na ciudad para con aquellos mana ESTRANIJEROS. fuera conocidos!

dejalo lang Stern, simple lang man mi deseo na vida.. algun dia, hay puede tu mira un Establecemiento que el Comunidad solamente ta conversa "Zamboangueno" que na cada dia comunicacion, na documentos, na papeles y otras." inshort "An Architectural Firm of Zamboangueno Chavacano Speaking Community ONYL."

basih algun dia hay aplica tu como un NURZA... mira kita si puede pa tu man-palac!:bash::bash::bash:


por ultimo Stern, si NO quiere USTED lee mis comentarios escribiendo na LENGUAJE ZAMBOANGUENO (el lenguaje de un Zamboangueno Latino), desaleja ya lang USTED!!!:bash::bash::bash:

I haven't really read everything but I guess I got your points / what you were trying to say.

I don't know why your defense has reached such a massive scale. All I was asking for was for everyone to use a dialect / language that most of the people in SSC (including the lurkers) understand. So please. Don't act as if I have condemned Chavacano or that I called for it's total destruction in the world beyond this forum.

yes but interest to learn of its meaning is an effort to learn our culture =)

meaning if people find it interesting by using our own language (take note its language since spain and europe already consider it as a spanish creole language) then we better often use our language like

another xample

if zamboangeño to anda to cebu para studia el mga hente hende man husa english or tagalog, ta husa sila cebuano man, abla tamen kita kunila uy pwede husa english or tagalog? d ba kita ta prigunta kosa sila tan kwento meaning kita ta pone interest para aprende di ila lenguahe =)


corecto gat tu senor Psylock!:banana::banana::banana:
el punto lang man de aton, si kita kita lang..we better use our native language, pero si tiene man estranijero interesante y ta pregunta... traduci lang kita para con ellos. jendeh ba?
en ese manersa, estos estranijeros, ta aprende ya tambien desde conaton.

How did Korea introduce with their korean pop songs isn't korean language? (and now madami na pinoy gusto sa k-pop and even learning their language)

How did MALDITA got the attention people from LUZON, VISAYAS AND MINDANAO d ba CHAVACANO language? (same thing with people interest to learn our culture =) )

very simple =)

and if some one already wants to interact, that's the time will use the world language ENGLISH and if taga dito lang TAGALOG

so i agree when may info using TAGLISH but if chika lang i think we beter use chavacano ^^


>>Ellos ya queda bien nombrao na entero Filipinas y tambien na Latina amejicano por ellos canciones na Zamboangueno Chavacano!;-)

yes! masquen jendeh kita ta entende el cancion na Koreano pero ta canta siempre kita... despues, tiempo que viene, ta precura ya tambien kita aprende el cada letra o palabra na cancion koreano.. jendeh ba?

woah.. no ya man pelyahan kita2x ya lng ki tan pelyahan pa..:ohno:

Actually, I've already said in an earlier post that I've given up in changing their mindset and that I leave to them the kind of life they wish to live. And I've actually used a similar sentence structure to the one that you've used in the first part of your post. For the Cebu City Thread and their use of the Cebuano dialect, I've explained why it's different from the Zamboanga City and Zamboanga City's use of the Chavacano dialect in my response to Psylock.



Stern, por tu ignorancia... bastante ya llama "dialect" el de aton Lenguaje.... Chavacano is Language, a creole language, a memeber of latin language family, a member of the Austro-Iberian language family and a member of the Philippine spanish Creole. a full-pledge LANGUAGE with SIX(6) Dialects. Zamboangueno Dialects is one of them!;-)got it?:bash:

Why make things difficult for them when we can actually just use a language wherein they won't need to ask for translations and just simply understand every bit of discussion that we have? It's not practical to translate every Chavacano word that we say here just to get a tiny piece of message to someone. The time that it would consume might vanish the interest of people in the city. It's just like a medical practitioner talking to an ordinary patient using medical terms. The patient may be at awe with the words you've used, but at the end of the day, the most important question is: did the patient understand what you intended to say?


the diference between Medical, interesting to learn at first but in dt ue time it turns out to be sofucating. whereas, learing other culture is like an Art and Literature, the more deeper you go, the more interesting it will be. gets?

it is like learning Architecture.. very interesting though very tiring... evey detail you really to know becoz its needed. after, alegre!


jendeh practical? na gente lang ese... jendeh practical para na un gente guevon!!!

In the posts just before I posted the message asking everyone to use a language / dialect that most people can understand, Chavacano wasn't just used in discussing gossips or other small, unimportant things - in those posts mentioned, it was used to discuss very informative things. That gesture bothered me because, in the past (just a few days ago actually), most of us discussed important things in a language that any visitor could easily understand, but that changed when, a few hours ago, a few forumers began discussing big things in a dialect that only a small number of people could understand.



otra vez!!!! jendeh mas se problema de aton... si ellos BIEN interesado entonces sabe ellos quilaya usa el esfuerzo para aprende!!!

proque, si talla tu Cebu, tene ba tambien ellos quever si jendeh tu ta entende con ellos? no hay! sino tu problema ya se... jendeh ba?

anda tambien tu na Pampanga... no hay tambien ellos quever si jendeh tu ta entende.... tu problema ya se... si interesado tu, pregunta! ancina lang se de simple!!!

por tu ignorancia tambien.... Zamboangueno Chavacano was the Oficial language of the lost Republic of Zamboanga existe desde 1899-1903 antes este ya inclui ya na Republica de las Filipinas.

corecto gat tu senor Psylock!:banana::banana::banana:
el punto lang man de aton, si kita kita lang..we better use our native language, pero si tiene man estranijero interesante y ta pregunta... traduci lang kita para con ellos. jendeh ba?
en ese manersa, estos estranijeros, ta aprende ya tambien desde conaton.


PERFECT!

i won't use my dialect, Joe. Even thou im just telling this for you, Joe. and not for everybody else, Joe! :nuts:

para nu hay problema, nunca ya quita usa con el de aton Chavacano.Period. Mga hente alli que quierre tambien combersa Chavacano. No mas ya. Cay ta commanda ya el unu aqui. Adios! :( :( :(


jejejejejejejeje....


Language defines a culture and indentity...
be proud that we're the first Catolico or Cristiano na Entero MIndanaoo del ano 1635.... thus the first Cristian Race/Ethnic Group or Herencia were the Zamboanguenos or formally know as the Chavacanos de Zamboanga.

Marl, muerte solamente el que puede para manda descansa conmigo usa,escribi,conversa el de aton LEnguaje Zamboangueno...jejejejejejeje

Everything became complicated when a couple of people here began discussing important things in Chavacano a few hours ago. It was a mutual agreement by most of ZC forumers that we use languages that most people anywhere can understand easily when we discuss important things. I just don't know why all of a sudden, their informative posts were purely in Chavacano. We can't really say that it's not a problem if visitors don't understand what we're talking about here. We don't really get all our reliable sources on different projects from ZC forumers. Many of them come from non-Chavacano folks, who from time to time, drop by this thread to herald some news, correct some infos, etc. There are also some instances when one should consider the possibility that big investors may be lurking through this forum. They may be using this forum to make initial assessment of the happenings in the city, etc. Isolating ourselves through language barrier is not always good.


Stern, haaaaaaaay... porpiao gat usted! jendeh se problema!!!
masquen yo ta visita man na otro hilo... if found something interesting pero tormento para comprende "JENDEH YO TA RECLAMA CAY ESTRANIJERO LANG YO ALL" sino i humbly ask someone para TRADUCI. got it?!

Don't exaggerate things and indirectly seek the sympathy and alliance of people. Your comprehension of my simple message seems to have been compromised by your impermeable, restricted mindset.


otra vez Stern! speaking english doesn't make a person brilliant!!!! but rather knowing his own herencia...


don't worry Stern... someday if im alredi the Alcalde.. ill change ol signboard and caratulas desde Ingles para Zamboangueno! todo anncios eres escribiendo na Zamboangueno con Subtitulo na Ingles.

deveras ese Stern!!!! but i'll start first na mi own company!!!!

Stern, por tu ignorancia... bastante ya llama "dialect" el de aton Lenguaje.... Chavacano is Language, a creole language, a memeber of latin language family, a member of the Austro-Iberian language family and a member of the Philippine spanish Creole. a full-pledge LANGUAGE with SIX(6) Dialects. Zamboangueno Dialects is one of them!;-)got it?:bash:

Okay. I'll stop calling the Chavacano dialect, oops, language, a dialect.


the diference between Medical, interesting to learn at first but in dt ue time it turns out to be sofucating. whereas, learing other culture is like an Art and Literature, the more deeper you go, the more interesting it will be. gets?

it is like learning Architecture.. very interesting though very tiring... evey detail you really to know becoz its needed. after, alegre!


jendeh practical? na gente lang ese... jendeh practical para na un gente guevon!!!

Actually, Architecture and Medicine / Health Care are, well, not different. It all depends on a person's interests.


otra vez!!!! jendeh mas se problema de aton... si ellos BIEN interesado entonces sabe ellos quilaya usa el esfuerzo para aprende!!!

proque, si talla tu Cebu, tene ba tambien ellos quever si jendeh tu ta entende con ellos? no hay! sino tu problema ya se... jendeh ba?

anda tambien tu na Pampanga... no hay tambien ellos quever si jendeh tu ta entende.... tu problema ya se... si interesado tu, pregunta! ancina lang se de simple!!!

por tu ignorancia tambien.... Zamboangueno Chavacano was the Oficial language of the lost Republic of Zamboanga existe desde 1899-1903 antes este ya inclui ya na Republica de las Filipinas.

Do I actually have to repeat that all I'm asking from everyone in that particular message is to use lingua franca instead of Chavacano here in this forum alone? I didn't include the world beyond SSC.

jejejejejejejeje....
Language defines a culture and indentity...
be proud that we're the first Catolico or Cristiano na Entero MIndanaoo del ano 1635.... thus the first Cristian Race/Ethnic Group or Herencia were the Zamboanguenos or formally know as the Chavacanos de Zamboanga.

Marl, muerte solamente el que puede para manda descansa conmigo usa,escribi,conversa el de aton LEnguaje Zamboangueno...jejejejejejeje

Stop bringing back the past. The historical stuff that you've been posting are irrelevant to the message that I said. How could a simple request for a two-way communication between ZC thread and the rest of the Philippine / global threads actually have any connection with those pieces of history? For the nth time, I am not advocating for the eradication of Chavacano from the face of the Earth.

Does anyone know how much it costs to go to SCI? What's the schedule of the ferry? Is there still a need for military escort? Thanks.

哇，哈哈！，发生了什么事？这种团结变成敌意！ :ohno:

نجاح باهر، هاهاها!، ماذا حدث؟ تحول هذا العداء إلى وحدة وطنية!! :ohno:

:lol:

deberas ace si tan skip to na lenguahe di atun daw yan snub lang tamen tu na dituyo pagka zamboangeño,

si chika lang man ta husa chavacano nuay man problema para mesclao de atun hilo de chavacano eh tagalog e english

:cheers:

DO I REALLY NEED TO WRITE IN CHAVACANO AND READ ALL THE POST/S WRITTEN IN CHAVACANO ON THIS THREAD to prove that I LOVE ZAMBO??? WTH...

SINCE when is it WRITTEN that NOT reading Chavacano post/s here or SPEAKING the DIALECT MAKES me LESSER of a ZAMBOANGUEÑO?

I HAVE NOT and never CONDEMNED the Chavacano dialect that is if you try to read and have a look on my previous post/s. All that I am saying is I SKIP reading post or posts that are written in Chavacano.

I may be a NEWBIE on this THREAD but I guess I am not that FOOL enough to BAN the USE of CHAVACANO on this thread.

entonces, jendeh tu debe lleva na nombre de "ilovezambo" sino "ihatezambo".


DO I REALLY NEED TO WRITE IN CHAVACANO AND READ ALL THE POST/S WRITTEN IN CHAVACANO ON THIS THREAD to prove that I LOVE ZAMBO??? WTH...

SINCE when is it WRITTEN that NOT reading Chavacano post/s here or SPEAKING the DIALECT MAKES me LESSER of a ZAMBOANGUEÑO?

I HAVE NOT and never CONDEMNED the Chavacano dialect that is if you try to read and have a look on my previous post/s. All that I am saying is I SKIP reading post or posts that are written in Chavacano.

I may be a NEWBIE on this THREAD but I guess I am not that FOOL enough to BAN the USE of CHAVACANO on this thread.

BTW, I still am and will always LOVE ZAMBO...

cosa klase de pensamiento tu tiene ñor si ancina de tu mentalidad...

Does anyone know how much it costs to go to SCI? What's the schedule of the ferry? Is there still a need for military escort? Thanks.


i guess the boat ride will cost you around P1,000.00

all you need to do is to register on DOT and list all the names of your companions who are coming with you to SCI

an escort will be assigned on the day you go to SCI...

the boat/banca leaves early in the morning between 7-9 AM

great night

哇，哈哈！，发生了什么事？这种团结变成敌意！ :ohno:

نجاح باهر، هاهاها!، ماذا حدث؟ تحول هذا العداء إلى وحدة وطنية!! :ohno:

:lol:

This is how blind any visiting forumer might feel when he /she goes to a thread wherein the only language / dialect used is the one that he / she doesn't understand. It's difficult for him / her to formulate questions because they don't even know what the discussions are all about. That's why, in ZC thread, we mustn't discuss big things in Chavacano exclusively so that non-Chavacano people from other places who want to interact / know more about the city may do so.

otra vez Stern! speaking english doesn't make a person brilliant!!!! but rather knowing his own herencia...


don't worry Stern... someday if im alredi the Alcalde.. ill change ol signboard and caratulas desde Ingles para Zamboangueno! todo anncios eres escribiendo na Zamboangueno con Subtitulo na Ingles.

deveras ese Stern!!!! but i'll start first na mi own company!!!!

WHO EVER SAID that SPEAKING ENGLISH makes a person BRILLIANT???
Where on Earth have you got that notion??? And KNOWING my "HERENCIA" makes me BRILLIANT??? whoah!!! nice try...

Other forumers from this thread and other site are having a good laugh right now upon reading all these commotions on the Zamboanga Thread.

As an observation, STERN just want you guys to minimize the use of CHAVACANO on this thread so that anyone and everyone who visits and uses this thread can understand all the writings on this wall.

i guess the boat ride will cost you around P1,000.00

all you need to do is to register on DOT and list all the names of your companions who are coming with you to SCI

an escort will be assigned on the day you go to SCI...

the boat/banca leaves early in the morning between 7-9 AM

great night

Really? I've read that on blogs but I didn't think it is still necessary up to now. Isn't there a ferry with scheduled trips to SCI?

Really? I've read that on blogs but I didn't think it is still necessary up to now. Isn't there a ferry with scheduled trips to SCI?

Really? yes

I've read that on blogs what have you read on other blogs?

but I didn't think it is still necessary up to now. what is necessary? listing of guest at DOT??? It is a must i believe...

Isn't there a ferry with scheduled trips to SCI? There is no scheduled ferry that comes and goes to SCI, all of them are for an EXCLUSIVE HIRE. The P1,000.00 that you are going to pay is for R/T and the ferry will be stationed ashore SCI and wait for you to go back to the city...

I hope there are other forumers who can help you on this... as far as I know, these are what usually happens for a trip to SCI... hope i am able to help you even for a bit... great nyt/day

Really? yes

I've read that on blogs what have you read on other blogs?

but I didn't think it is still necessary up to now. what is necessary? listing of guest at DOT??? It is a must i believe...

Isn't there a ferry with scheduled trips to SCI? There is no scheduled ferry that comes and goes to SCI, all of them are for an EXCLUSIVE HIRE. The P1,000.00 that you are going to pay is for R/T and the ferry will be stationed ashore SCI and wait for you to go back to the city...

I hope there are other forumers who can help you on this... as far as I know, these are what usually happens for a trip to SCI... hope i am able to help you even for a bit... great nyt/day

I was referring to the military escort. Thanks for your help.

classmate, hehe.. incluhido ya na tourist police for your escort service once anda tu reserva de ustedes trip para SCI alla na DOT office (1F Lantaka Bldg).

manda con ustedes escribi el maga nombre quien ay segui na trip, y inporma ustedes con ese na Istacion del Tourist Police locao na entrance del PDMar, y inporma con el bancero Manong Ramon adentro na Lantaka, onde ta bende maga bracelet souvenir/s na side del Swimming pool si cosa hora ustedes debe sale para Sta. Cruz y bira estaba Sta. Cruz. Simple lang le classmate! :)


Ferry Rate:
1T - mid-sized ferry boat. (maximum of 15pax)
1,5T - big ferry boat (maximum of 30pax)


**paga ese acaba de ustedes trip, si ay llegar na docking point na PDMar.


Mas de impormaccion:

*antes ustedes ay sale; paga ustdes 5p entrance fee.
*Cottage Fee: ranges from 200 to 300, depends on the size of the cottage.

**No need to pay tourist police escort.


Other than that, no hay mas cosa otro para paga. :)


HAPPY TRIP! :okay:

IMO. I don't see any thing wrong if some people in here uses CHAVACANO. Besides, all the important discussions are discussed in ENGLISH or TAGALOG.

BTW, we have the mods here if you want to settle this issue with them. just a suggestion. :)

anyways it seems stern will never get the POINT OF VIEW, VALUES, POSITIVE IMPACT, NEGATIVE IMPACT and INFLUENCE why we need to use a BIT of chavacano.




eto na lang update sa LA CASA SUBDIVISION that i posted the tarpoline @ ayala dream ville^^

TWO STORY PERSPECTIVE
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1359.snc4/163149_132307150165188_132299073499329_220358_631422_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs050.snc6/168022_132307503498486_132299073499329_220374_3325983_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs044.snc6/167418_132310490164854_132299073499329_220419_2486253_n.jpg

D ko na lahatin kasi ang dami^^

eto un mga finish na

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs047.snc6/167710_132303800165523_132299073499329_220286_15314_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs764.ash1/165550_132304193498817_132299073499329_220306_3582134_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs001.snc6/165100_132304276832142_132299073499329_220310_1729048_n.jpg




1 story persperctive

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs055.snc6/168556_132304236832146_132299073499329_220308_5469166_n.jpg



eto un site nila http://www.facebook.com/pages/OBL-La-Casa/132299073499329?v=wall#!/pages/OBL-La-Casa/132299073499329

classmate, hehe.. incluhido ya na tourist police for your escort service once anda tu reserva de ustedes trip para SCI alla na DOT office (1F Lantaka Bldg).

manda con ustedes escribi el maga nombre quien ay segui na trip, y inporma ustedes con ese na Istacion del Tourist Police locao na entrance del PDMar, y inporma con el bancero Manong Ramon adentro na Lantaka, onde ta bende maga bracelet souvenir/s na side del Swimming pool si cosa hora ustedes debe sale para Sta. Cruz y bira estaba Sta. Cruz. Simple lang le classmate! :)


Ferry Rate:
1T - mid-sized ferry boat. (maximum of 15pax)
1,5T - big ferry boat (maximum of 30pax)


**paga ese acaba de ustedes trip, si ay llegar na docking point na PDMar.


Mas de impormaccion:

*antes ustedes ay sale; paga ustdes 5p entrance fee.
*Cottage Fee: ranges from 200 to 300, depends on the size of the cottage.

**No need to pay tourist police escort.


Other than that, no hay mas cosa otro para paga. :)


HAPPY TRIP! :okay:

caro man... nada ya lang yo... hahaha

Robredo, Celso unveil P10M projects for police, Upper Calarian (http://www.zambotimes.com/archives/27023-Robredo,-Celso-unveil-P10M-projects-for-police,-Upper-Calarian.html)
Tuesday, January 11. 2011

by Sheila Covarrubias

Local Government Secretary Jesse Robredo will be in Zamboanga City today to personally supervise the turnover of city government-funded projects and equipment—estimated to cost some P10million and intended for the police and the barangay of Upper Calarian.

Mayor Celso Lobregat has personally invited the DILG secretary to grace the turn over rites for 66 firearms to the City Police Office, a fire station, health center and police action center in Upper Calarian and 2 units of 4x4 jeep for the Sangali police station and military's Task force Zamboanga to showcase the city government's ever-aggressive support and assistance to the police and the barangays.

The turnover of the firearms will be held 3pm at the Zamboanga City Police Office. The 66 M4 rifles are high powered rifles Sam Trailblazer with magazines and accessories costing approximately P60,000 each. This is the second batch of firearms turned over by the Lobregat administration to the Zamboanga City Police office in a period of 10 months in line with the city's commitment to constantly support and assist the police to improve public safety.

Last March 25, 2010, Mayor Lobregat turned over 50 similar rifles costing a total of P3M to help upgrade the capability of the local law enforcers. The turnover was done in the presence of- PNP Director Gen. Leandro Versoza.
From the Central Police office, Mayor Lobregat will lead Sec. Robredo and other members of the DILG family to Upper Calarian for the unveiling of the P1.39 million Community Police Action Center, P1.801M Health Center and P2.123M Fire Station—all located in a 1,500 square meter property turned over to the city government through a usufruct agreement by the Philippine Tourism Authority last October 2008.

The 3 infrastructures as well as the P3.827million barangay hall that was unveiled last October are part of the P9, 146, 900.08 worth of projects constructed by the city government for barangay Upper Calarian also in the same area.

Aside from the infrastructures, Sec. Robredo will also witness the turnover of 2 units of 4x4 jeep to the Sangali Police station and the Task Force Zamboanga -also in Upper Calarian.

Costing P400, 000 each, these transportation facilities are intended to improve mobility and ultimately to sustain peace and security in the city. Last October, the city turned over 3 similar vehicles for the use of Vitali, Curuan and Sangali police stations. These are all off road vehicles that are capable on and off paved or gravel surface.

Secretary Robredo, according to Mayor Lobregat, will enplane from Manila this morning to attend a series of activities with officials from the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao together with Education Secretary Bro. Armin Luistro and Mindanao Development Authority chair Secretary Luwalhati Antonino.

CPOC oks reorganization of ZCPO—Celso (http://www.zambotimes.com/archives/27022-CPOC-oks-reorganization-of-ZCPO8212;Celso.html)
Tuesday, January 11. 2011

by Sheila Covarrubias

The City Peace and Order Council (CPOC) yesterday approved the proposed reorganization of the Zamboanga City Police Office that calls for the creation of the Central Police Station, intended to enhance police performance.

Mayor Celso Lobregat, CPOC chair said the reorganization, set to be implemented immediately, involves the creation of the Central Police Station that will no longer be under the Chief of Police but a station commander whose jurisdiction will cover 16 barangays located within the city proper area.

In a meeting initiated by the chief executive at the City Hall conference room yesterday morning, the CPOC agreed with the move that will lessen the tasks of the city police director who has also been acting as the station commander and in charge of the traffic and patrol and other divisions before.

With the creation of the central police station, the traffic and patrol will be under the station commander of the central police station giving the City Police Director ample time to supervise the entire 11 police stations of Zamboanga City.

The Sacol Island Police Station will become a police action center under the Culianan Police Station but all the personnel and equipment will remain under the COMPAC unit, according to Mayor Lobregat.

Mayor Lobregat said the City Police OIC director Col. Edwin de Ocampo will continue to hold office in the central police station's second floor with operational units under him. As to who will man the central police station will be discussed by the mayor and de Ocampo soon.

The central police station will cover Sta. Barbara, Sta. Catalina, Kasanyangan, Zones 1, 2, 3, and 4, Camino Nuevo, Canelar, Sto. Nino, San Jose Cawa-cawa and Baliwasan and other areas in the city proper.

With the newly created police station, Zamboanga City still has 11 police stations—the maximum number for a highly urbanized city. These are the stations located in Tetuan, Sta. Maria, Vitali, Curuan, Sangali, Cullianan, Divisoria, Sinunuc, Labuan, Ayala and the newly created Central Police station.

The reorganization of the ZCPO was only one of the numerous items in the agenda of the CPOC meeting that was also attended by top military officials from the Western Mindanao Command, Naval Forces Western Mindanao, Directorate for Integrated Police Operations (DIPO), Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency (PDEA), Task force Zamboanga, Regional and City Police office and other law enforcement units.

Other items included issues about the prevailing peace and order situation, drug concerns, implementation of the gun ban and several others.

hola

I really commend ACER for writing in Chavacano language in this thread. This promotes the language and above all, Zamboanga culture. I hope that there are many ACERs in this thread. I learn the Chavacano language from him more. Verdad, El Chavacano lenguaje es muy bonito oi y lee.

To Stern, I understand your point. There were times that I skipped reading Acer's posts too.

To Marlowe, I agree with your comment. That is, if you do not feel like reading Chavacano then skip reading.

My suggestion: We may suggest but do not impose. We cannot convince a person to subscribe our views overnight. Secondly, do not be too reactive.

I have been reading the posts of the forumers here since Thread 1. You know pretty well how long you have been and how active as a forumer. Respect "authority" in the thread.

Peace.

Untouched - The unexpected peacemaker out of nowhere. hehe.. thanks for bringing PEACE bro! ;)


STERN, ACER, and everybody here, KISS? hehehe.. Katuwaan lang oi. Back to reality, everybody hapi! :D

Untouched - The unexpected peacemaker out of nowhere. hehe.. thanks for bringing PEACE bro! ;)


STERN, ACER, and everybody here, KISS? hehehe.. Katuwaan lang oi. Back to reality, everybody hapi! :D


LOLZ... yups ebribadi hapi:)

Por favor! cosa ta pasa aqui? haha. bastante ya se!

i guess the boat ride will cost you around P1,000.00

all you need to do is to register on DOT and list all the names of your companions who are coming with you to SCI

an escort will be assigned on the day you go to SCI...

the boat/banca leaves early in the morning between 7-9 AM

great night

ganun 1k each? or per group na?

In the posts just before I posted the message asking everyone to use a language / dialect that most people can understand, Chavacano wasn't just used in discussing gossips or other small, unimportant things - in those posts mentioned, it was used to discuss very informative things. That gesture bothered me because, in the past (just a few days ago actually), most of us discussed important things in a language that any visitor could easily understand, but that changed when, a few hours ago, a few forumers began discussing big things in a dialect that only a small number of people could understand.


este un Zamboanga Thread!
banning speaking in Zamboangueño Language while pernitting English and Tagalog is very ridiculous...haaaaaaaaay.. que un traidor!

Okay. I'll stop calling the Chavacano dialect, oops, language, a dialect.




Actually, Architecture and Medicine / Health Care are, well, not different. It all depends on a person's interests.




Do I actually have to repeat that all I'm asking from everyone in that particular message is to use lingua franca instead of Chavacano here in this forum alone? I didn't include the world beyond SSC.


amo ya gane! entonces, Zamobangueño es el LIngua Franca del Ciudad de Zamboanga y de la Provincia de Basilan y RECOGNIZADO LENGUAJE MINORIYIA y Co-official language na Semporna-Sabbah, Malaysia....

Stop bringing back the past. The historical stuff that you've been posting are irrelevant to the message that I said. How could a simple request for a two-way communication between ZC thread and the rest of the Philippine / global threads actually have any connection with those pieces of history? For the nth time, I am not advocating for the eradication of Chavacano from the face of the Earth.


History? well, History is what makes us now a Filipino after all and even is what makes our country called Filipinas!!!
History is what makes people fight about for this and for that...
History is the main reason why the Jews reconquer again their long lost land from the Palestinians and called it "Israel" as what stated in the Biblical Text about Israel, the land of the Hebrews....
History, is the main reason why until now the Greeks are still kept on Strenghtening their Arm Forces to reconquer their long lost land from the Turks.
History is what makes us! History is what gives us our Identity.
History is what we're fighting for... especially our country.. while? its because again of History that the Philippines is the Richest country in Asia before.. now, we aim for this again. and thats because of History Sake!!!!
same thing, with some or several Zamboangueño People wanted their long lost Republic to re-establish again to give a better future for their people.. thus, the Zamboangueño culture is much likely the same as of those from the Latins.

the Hispanic Culture are very much alive in Business and Commerce only among Latin People... and thats why, the population of the Hispanic People in USA are now continous multiplying from 1/3 of the population but almost 1/2.. not all state in the USA which English is official. but there many states in the USA which Spanish is the Official.


again, it is History again why the Ariane Catholic hates the Jews.
History is a very important part in our lives.
studying the greatest inventor and scientist of the past is what gives to our generations the inspiration to pursue also... isn't it History again?

I haven't really read everything but I guess I got your points / what you were trying to say.

I don't know why your defense has reached such a massive scale. All I was asking for was for everyone to use a dialect / language that most of the people in SSC (including the lurkers) understand. So please. Don't act as if I have condemned Chavacano or that I called for it's total destruction in the world beyond this forum.


oh! really you didn't?
it is the same Stern!
indirectly u'r trying to note that "stop using it!".

DO I REALLY NEED TO WRITE IN CHAVACANO AND READ ALL THE POST/S WRITTEN IN CHAVACANO ON THIS THREAD to prove that I LOVE ZAMBO??? WTH...

SINCE when is it WRITTEN that NOT reading Chavacano post/s here or SPEAKING the DIALECT MAKES me LESSER of a ZAMBOANGUEÑO?

>>Yes! Language defines a Culture and Indentity!
>>>example: how can you be called an Ilocano if you ca not even speak, write and read Ilocano?

I HAVE NOT and never CONDEMNED the Chavacano dialect that is if you try to read and have a look on my previous post/s. All that I am saying is I SKIP reading post or posts that are written in Chavacano.

I may be a NEWBIE on this THREAD but I guess I am not that FOOL enough to BAN the USE of CHAVACANO on this thread.


:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

Untouched - The unexpected peacemaker out of nowhere. hehe.. thanks for bringing PEACE bro! ;)


STERN, ACER, and everybody here, KISS? hehehe.. Katuwaan lang oi. Back to reality, everybody hapi! :D


:banana::banana::banana::banana:Buajajajaja.... tene ba quien yan picon?:banana::banana::banana::banana:

ya oberva tambien yo Marl, no hay mas de LatinAmejica y de Europa que ta visita aqui na de aton Hilo...:):):):)

Bueno, Paza ya a todos!

Goood Dayyyyyyyysssss Zamboanga Forumers......

Grabe ang init ng talakayan dito subranggggg init....naku sana magkakaintindihan na tayo dito sa threads natin...grabe tayo tayo nlng mga Zamboanga forumers nag babangayan pa...naku naging mess na tong threads natin...pwde naman ata tayo gumamit ng dialecto nating Chavacano, English, Tagalog at kahit bisaya at tausug as long as naiintindihan natin..

grabe sa tagal kong di naka visit dito ang gulo na ng threads..

Peace na tayong lahat

Any way may good news naba sa bagong big projects dito?

^^
wala bang magandang news jan?
^^

espera kita con Marl, basih tiene ele alli!;-)

espera kita con Marl, basih tiene ele alli!;-)

^^
sana nga meron tlg
heheh
^^
:):):)

^^
sana nga meron tlg
heheh
^^
:):):)



Que tal ya man Jai?

































































oooooooooooops....basih tiene ya tambien quien dale comentario que segun malo man chica aqui.jejejeje

Por favor! cosa ta pasa aqui? haha. bastante ya se!


(ESCRIBIENDO NA LENGUAJE ZAMBOANGUEÑO)
:banana:Hola Paso!:banana:
:banana:Que tal usted?:banana:


no hay lang...:ohno:
tene lang gaja poco estruendo pero ya solve ya.:):):)

A cousin of mine working at Central bank told me that the groundbreaking and construction of the said edifice will commence this month. Yehey! FYI they will also preserve the large acacia trees in the area.:banana::cheers:

A cousin of mine working at Central bank told me that the groundbreaking and construction of the said edifice will commence this month. Yehey! FYI they will also preserve the large acacia trees in the area.:banana::cheers:


este el good news!!! :cheers::lol:

Quote:
Originally Posted by iLOVEzambo View Post
DO I REALLY NEED TO WRITE IN CHAVACANO AND READ ALL THE POST/S WRITTEN IN CHAVACANO ON THIS THREAD to prove that I LOVE ZAMBO??? WTH...

SINCE when is it WRITTEN that NOT reading Chavacano post/s here or SPEAKING the DIALECT MAKES me LESSER of a ZAMBOANGUEÑO?

I HAVE NOT and never CONDEMNED the Chavacano dialect that is if you try to read and have a look on my previous post/s. All that I am saying is I SKIP reading post or posts that are written in Chavacano.

I may be a NEWBIE on this THREAD but I guess I am not that FOOL enough to BAN the USE of CHAVACANO on this thread.



:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:


>>Yes! Language defines a Culture and Indentity! YES I AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE... LANGUAGE INDEED IS A TOOL TO DEFINE ONES CULTURE, HERITAGE AND IDENTITY
>>>example: how can you be called an Ilocano if you ca not even speak, write and read Ilocano?BY VIRTUE OF BIRTH...TRY TO REVIEW YOUR POLITICAL SCIENCE NOTES...

I HAVE NO ZAMBOANGEÑO BLOOD THAT RUNS THRU MY VEIN FOR I AM 1/4 CEBUANO, 1/4 WARAY, 1/4 BICOLANO AND 1/4 ILOKANO...BUT I AM A TRUE BLUE ZAMBOANGEÑO COZ I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN ZAMBOANGA

AND IF YOU STUDIED AT ADZU, YOU WILL LEARN ALL OF THESE THRU THE "CULTURA DE ZAMBOANGA" SUBJECT

Hope this will all end... this won't bring any good to this thread... what STERN has been asking us is to minimize the use of CHAVACANO especially when writing or dealing with important developments so that other readers, lurkers, contributors can understand and appreciate the post/s... WHAT IS WRONG IF WE skip on reading your chavacano posts... nuay pwersahan si no quiere man kame le el cosa tu ta acaba escribi... duele ba bariga if your posts are IGNORED? that must me the REASON on why UNTIL NOW bien ABURIDO y MALO pa el de tu CABESA...right?

great nyt doys...

:lol::lol::lol:BACK TO NORMAL... Pwede?:lol::lol::lol:

I think that if the intention is to arouse interest in Zamboanga city as a city, then we should write in English. I do believe that is already being followed in the thread. All the news article which should be of interest to non Zamboanguenos like the construction of a new mall this year are in English.

For comments/ opinions though, i think it is alright if we write in Chabacano since it won't matter anyway whether they would be understood by non Zamboanguenos.

STA CRUZ ISLAND!!! mo balik nasad kow dira...

:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

I think that if the intention is to arouse interest in Zamboanga city as a city, then we should write in English. I do believe that is already being followed in the thread. All the news article which should be of interest to non Zamboanguenos like the construction of a new mall this year are in English.

For comments/ opinions though, i think it is alright if we write in Chabacano since it won't matter anyway whether they would be understood by non Zamboanguenos.


I Agree...

and to ACER... get over it and accept the fact that some people do really disregard your chavacano posts... si no quiere man sila o kame le, no pwersa manda traga el cosa tu quiere... write all the chavacano that you want to prove that you are indeed a REAL ZAMBOANGEÑO... :lol::cheers::lol:

Gov’t to spend P2 billion on port dev’t (http://bworldonline.com/main/content.php?id=24310)
Posted on 10:13 PM, January 11, 2011

THE PHILIPPINE Ports Authority (PPA) plans to spend P2 billion on capacity building projects this year, the agency said in a statement yesterday.

"Most of the key ports are nearing the saturation level," the statement read, adding that expansion of piers is a major part of the thrust.

Juan C. Sta. Ana, PPA general manager, said in a phone interview yesterday that his office plans to finalize the budget and specific plans by next month.
"We will finalize the budget in one month, but we are looking at P2 billion budget for the project," he said.

"The ports that will be included in the project are Iloilo, Zamboanga, General Santos, Batangas, Manila including South and North harbors, Cagayan de Oro, Dumaguete in Negros Occidental," Mr. Sta. Ana said.

The statement said that "PPA hopes to embark more aggressively on port capacity-building projects to include the extension of piers and berth lengths, continuous expansion of pier back-up areas such as container yards and truck holding areas, rehabilitation of port facilities, construction of adequate modern, safe and comfortable Passenger Terminal Buildings."

"For this year, PPA plans to accelerate the implementation of its medium-term plans which include capacity build-up with the plan to start enhancing or improving the major gateways utilizing the corporate funds or if necessary through borrowing from financial institutions who are always ready to provide the PPA with the needed assistance," he said.

Mr. Sta. Ana added that the agency plans to add more Vessel Traffic Monitoring Systems (VTMS) in at least four more ports, namely: Iloilo, Davao, Zamboanga and Romblon.

"At present, PPA has constructed VTMS facilities in Manila and in Batangas Port," he said.

One major project the PPA plans to implement is the expansion of the Manila’s harbor, involving reclamation of about 200 hectares. PPA had noted that some shipments of bulk cargoes like wheat, flour, minerals and petroleum products have had to be rerouted or handled shipside due to lack of space and facilities.

Do you have info regarding to this?

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs009.ash2/33816_190633477614854_100000046086386_727214_6438004_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1356.snc4/162816_190633540948181_100000046086386_727220_2403639_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs797.ash1/168726_190633567614845_100000046086386_727221_7948830_n.jpg

Fil-Japanese firm to put up 41 MW of solar projects nationwide (http://www.zambotimes.com/archives/27062-Fil-Japanese-firm-to-put-up-41-MW-of-solar-projects-nationwide.html)
Wednesday, January 12. 2011
by LAM/ASF/utb

A Filipino-Japanese company, Eco-Merge Philippines, is looking at putting up four solar power projects in the country that will deliver 41 megawatts in the next two to three years.

Eco-Merge president Edgar Morada told reporters that the company is working with SMEC (Snowly Mountains Engineering Corp.), an international consultancy to conduct the feasibility study on its four solar projects that would need investments of around $ 150 million to $ 164 million.

"It is a long-term commitment of Eco-Merge with support from SMEC for this series of projects we are going to have," Morada said.

Morada said they will also eventually venture into other renewable energy (RE) sources such as wind and hydro.

"We will eventually diversify our RE portfolio, but for now the focus is on solar energy," Morada said.

Eco-Merge's projects are in response to the call of the government for investments in the power sector particularly in renewable energy following the passage of the Renewable Energy Act of 2008.

Eco-Merge will first undertake the proposed 11 MW solar photovoltaic power plant in Camarines Sur located in south Luzon.

Other priority areas being considered is Negros Occidental in the Visayas (10MW), Agusan Del Norte (10 MW) and Zamboanga (10 MW) both in Mindanao. A 1-MW solar project requires an investment of around $ 3 million to $ 4 million.

"(The Camsur) is one of the first projects we are planning to undertake. What is more important is we now have a partnership with SMEC. It is just one of the projects we are going to undertake in cooperation with SMEC," Morada said.

"SMEC will be involved from establishing the feasibility of the project all the way to the engineering and technical side. Right now the initial estimate is about $ 40 million (cost) for the 11 MW," he said.

Eco-Merge is now talking with commercial banks and multilateral institutions to fund at least 70 percent of the CamSur project.

Eco-Merge, which has a sister company in the US, signed an agreement with SMEC Philippines for the feasibility study of the Camsur project on Monday.
The feasibility study is expected to take between three to four months. Eco-Merge targets the groundbreaking ceremonies for the Camsur project on November 11 this year.

SMEC chief operating officer for Asia Pacific Division Michael Blee said SMEC was appointed as consultant to provide technical advise for the development of the proposed 11-MW solar plant in CamSur. SMEC is one of the leading engineering and development consultant in the world particularly in the field of new and renewable energy.

SMEC will prepare the study and provide assistance to Eco-Merge in securing government clearance and permits particularly the service contracts with the Department of Energy (DOE).

Eco-Merge's wants to partner with local government units for the requirement of the solar projects either through joint venture or lease agreements. The Camsur project needs about 22 hectares for the establishment of facilities needed to install 11 MW of solar power.

The company is currently discussing initial collaboration with potential partners, including the provincial government of Camarines Sur. Eco-Merge targets to sell electricity output from the 11 MW solar plant to the Camarines Sur Electric Cooperative II and any excess to the grid. (PNA)

Do you have info regarding to this?

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs797.ash1/168726_190633567614845_100000046086386_727221_7948830_n.jpg

Most of those on the list are under construction or are already done. The hospital, Badjao Festival Center, and the seaport aren't there yet. :colgate:

thank you sir for the info. i hope you have picts soon. good luck zambo zampen

from davaoenyo madla.

thank you sir for the info. i hope you have picts soon. good luck zambo zampen

from davaoenyo madla.

I guess other ZC forumers have some a few month old photos of some of the facilities, Sir. Thanks and more blessings for Davao! :)

Btw, here's the link (http://www.zambofreeport.com.ph/) to the quite outdated website of Zamboanga Freeport and Ecozone.

A cousin of mine working at Central bank told me that the groundbreaking and construction of the said edifice will commence this month. Yehey! FYI they will also preserve the large acacia trees in the area.:banana::cheers:

Thanks for this, Sir! :colgate: This one's a great news indeed!

Quote:
Originally Posted by iLOVEzambo View Post
DO I REALLY NEED TO WRITE IN CHAVACANO AND READ ALL THE POST/S WRITTEN IN CHAVACANO ON THIS THREAD to prove that I LOVE ZAMBO??? WTH...

SINCE when is it WRITTEN that NOT reading Chavacano post/s here or SPEAKING the DIALECT MAKES me LESSER of a ZAMBOANGUEÑO?

I HAVE NOT and never CONDEMNED the Chavacano dialect that is if you try to read and have a look on my previous post/s. All that I am saying is I SKIP reading post or posts that are written in Chavacano.

I may be a NEWBIE on this THREAD but I guess I am not that FOOL enough to BAN the USE of CHAVACANO on this thread.






>>Yes! Language defines a Culture and Indentity! YES I AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE... LANGUAGE INDEED IS A TOOL TO DEFINE ONES CULTURE, HERITAGE AND IDENTITY
>>>example: how can you be called an Ilocano if you ca not even speak, write and read Ilocano?BY VIRTUE OF BIRTH...TRY TO REVIEW YOUR POLITICAL SCIENCE NOTES...

>>>this deals only to citizenship... ask an Ilocano, and see their opinions. im sure they're against your opinion.;-)


I HAVE NO ZAMBOANGEÑO BLOOD THAT RUNS THRU MY VEIN FOR I AM 1/4 CEBUANO, 1/4 WARAY, 1/4 BICOLANO AND 1/4 ILOKANO...BUT I AM A TRUE BLUE ZAMBOANGEÑO COZ I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN ZAMBOANGA

AND IF YOU STUDIED AT ADZU, YOU WILL LEARN ALL OF THESE THRU THE "CULTURA DE ZAMBOANGA" SUBJECT

Hope this will all end... this won't bring any good to this thread... what STERN has been asking us is to minimize the use of CHAVACANO especially when writing or dealing with important developments so that other readers, lurkers, contributors can understand and appreciate the post/s... WHAT IS WRONG IF WE skip on reading your chavacano posts... nuay pwersahan si no quiere man kame le el cosa tu ta acaba escribi... duele ba bariga if your posts are IGNORED? that must me the REASON on why UNTIL NOW bien ABURIDO y MALO pa el de tu CABESA...right?

great nyt doys...

:lol::lol::lol:BACK TO NORMAL... Pwede?:lol::lol::lol:



buajajaja! rabiao dao!;-)
usted gaja el rabiao noy!

Do you have info regarding to this?

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs009.ash2/33816_190633477614854_100000046086386_727214_6438004_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1356.snc4/162816_190633540948181_100000046086386_727220_2403639_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs797.ash1/168726_190633567614845_100000046086386_727221_7948830_n.jpg


from what I'ver seen the progress being undertaken last month is the construction of additional swimming pools as part of ZAMBOECOZONE ecotourism capital in this part of the country, aside from being an investment hub.



Have u seen some photos of the ecotourism amenities, Bai Glenn? :)

este el good news!!! :cheers::lol:



>>>>buen noticia gat este marl! gracias!;-)

I Agree...

and to ACER... get over it and accept the fact that some people do really disregard your chavacano posts... si no quiere man sila o kame le, no pwersa manda traga el cosa tu quiere... write all the chavacano that you want to prove that you are indeed a REAL ZAMBOANGEÑO... :lol::cheers::lol:

:cheers:

Robredo, Lobregat unveil P10-M projects in Zamboanga City (http://www.zambotimes.com/archives/27049-Robredo,-Lobregat-unveil-P10-M-projects-in-Zamboanga-City.html)

Interior and Local Government Secretary Jesse Robredo has commended Mayor Celso Lobregat and the city government for extending multi-million-peso worth of projects to the local police, fire department and the barangays.

See photos here: Robredo, Lobregat unveil P10-M projects in Zamboanga City (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=26559&id=108035559261323)

"I have been mayor (of Naga City) for nine years but I must admit, we pale in comparison with Zamboanga City in terms of assistance to the police," Robredo said.

Robredo, Lobregat and Philippine National Police (PNP) Director-General Raul Bacalzo led the unveiling Tuesday afternoon of some P10 million worth of projects that the city extended to the police and Barangay Upper Calarian, west of this city.

From his series of meetings with Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM) officials here, Lobregat ushered Robredo and party to the Zamboanga City Police Office (ZCPO) where they turned over 66 units of high-powered Sam Trailblazer M4 rifles which the city bought for some P60,000 each. This is in addition to the 50 similar rifles worth P3 million that was turned over to the local police in March last year.

From the ZCPO headquarters, Robredo and Lobregat proceeded to Barangay Upper Calarian for the unveiling of the P1.394-million Police Action Center which forms part of the massive infrastructure program and continuing support to the peacekeeping and security efforts of the local police.

Also inaugurated in the area was the newly constructed Calarian Fire Station worth P2.123 million.

Also inaugurated was the Upper Calarian Health Center amounting to P1.801 million, which is expected to accelerate delivery of health services in the barangay in line with this city's vision of "Un Ciudad sin Enfermedad" ( A Disease-Free City).

Robredo also accepted from Lobregat two units of four-by-four jeep which he turned over to the local police and Task Force Zamboanga to improve their mobility in sustaining peace and security in the city. (PNA)

They need to do something about this place.. mahina el negosyo aqui

The place needs proper publicity or probably not getting any at all. Aside from advertising, public relations is one effective way to build a brand. Nowadays, a lot of huge companies and SMEs spend more on PR and a little on advertising.

What a lot of Zamboangenos and our kababayans want to hear is a good story – stories on public affairs, community relations, investor relations, media events, etc.

I spoke with my cousin (who is a councilor in Zamboanga) at our in-law’s wake last Sunday and volunteered myself to help lobby the city by simply pushing La Bella to the media, helping seed positive press releases nationally, placements and getting our city back on track. I’m pretty much well connected with the national media..just taking advantage of my resources.
We definitely need to get the word out! Just saying………..

Salud! :cheers:

buajajaja! rabiao dao!;-)
usted gaja el rabiao noy!


:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:

:lol::lol::lol:LOLZ... bien MAKA-MALO brain NOY si nuay quien quiere le de tu chavacano post nu? BWAHAHAHAHhahahahahaaa... :lol::lol::lol:

dol hasta ara bien duele pa man bariga... quetal man? toma dayun diatabs...BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahaaa

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

:cheers:

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

The place needs proper publicity or probably not getting any at all. Aside from advertising, public relations is one effective way to build a brand. Nowadays, a lot of huge companies and SMEs spend more on PR and a little on advertising.

What a lot of Zamboangenos and our kababayans want to hear is a good story – stories on public affairs, community relations, investor relations, media events, etc.

I spoke with my cousin (who is a councilor in Zamboanga) at our in-law’s wake last Sunday and volunteered myself to help lobby the city by simply pushing La Bella to the media, helping seed positive press releases nationally, placements and getting our city back on track. I’m pretty much well connected with the national media..just taking advantage of my resources.
We definitely need to get the word out! Just saying………..

Salud! :cheers:

Good Job Sir... :cheers:

A cousin of mine working at Central bank told me that the groundbreaking and construction of the said edifice will commence this month. Yehey! FYI they will also preserve the large acacia trees in the area.:banana::cheers:

Thanks for the info, sir! :okay:

Chuck23 likes this!

^^si Psyluck to hehehehe...not the other one...next si Chuck naman ibuking dito ahahahahaah....

Haha.. sure ka ba? :lol:

I spoke with my cousin (who is a councilor in Zamboanga) at our in-law’s wake last Sunday and volunteered myself to help lobby the city by simply pushing La Bella to the media, helping seed positive press releases nationally, placements and getting our city back on track. I’m pretty much well connected with the national media..just taking advantage of my resources.
We definitely need to get the word out! Just saying………..

Salud! :cheers:

Are you referring to Councilor VP Elago? I heard that his brother-in-law succumbed to massive heart attack a few days ago.

i saw kanina, may on going activities sa side na hexagon bar nunez ext. may bulldoser, mixer at back hoe. ano kaya ang ginagawa nila dun. can anyone verify this?:ohno:

I passed by the u/c Hyundai and Ssyangyong Showroom in Putik
and I saw a huge tarp on the lot with the message:



This property has been acquired

and is operated by

6 Mix Realty Inc.

(San Juan, Metro Manila)




The construction workers were installing the glass panels on the showroom building.
The other u/c building near the showroom is already having its exterior painted.

i saw kanina, may on going activities sa side na hexagon bar nunez ext. may bulldoser, mixer at back hoe. ano kaya ang ginagawa nila dun. can anyone verify this?:ohno:

Matagal tagal na yun sila andun. Early December pa ata or November. :)

Matagal tagal na yun sila andun. Early December pa ata or November. :) may mga drivers sa loob ng sasakyan at parang may ginagawa sila dun.

may mga drivers sa loob ng sasakyan at parang may ginagawa sila dun.

Yes. Matagal ko na ring hinihintay kung ano yung gagawin nila dun. Hmm. Pero sinabi naman ni Zuki na binenta na yung lot ng Hexagon nung nagmeet sila pati ang RLC reps sa GOH. :)

nasa zamboanga ako ngayong sabado...

nasa zamboanga ako ngayong sabado...

Welcome in advance, Sir! :colgate:

nasa zamboanga ako ngayong sabado...

Welcome sir... hope you will have a great time. :cheers:

ganda ng new look ng jollibee camins.

I Agree...

and to ACER... get over it and accept the fact that some people do really disregard your chavacano posts... si no quiere man sila o kame le, no pwersa manda traga el cosa tu quiere... write all the chavacano that you want to prove that you are indeed a REAL ZAMBOANGEÑO... :lol::cheers::lol:


Doy, atrasao ya este.....
ya acaba ya este!
el punto de este jendeh que ta porza sino del primero cuento que tene alguno quiere probihi el usada aqui. por eso este issue ya sale. antes tambien tu dale comento alli, lee el una publicado de Stern y el ultimo publicado de todos donde que ambos lao ya declara ya "paz".
porque dol boca puet de Pollo lang tu siempre alli?
no puede esta quieto?

por ultimo, siempre, real Zamboangueño gayot yo! aunque no hay lang sangre de bisaya(Cebuano) ta corre na mis venas sino sangre de Ilonggo(Hiligaynon), Subano, Español y Zamboangueño!

porque, duele na corazon cuando ya menciona el palabra "NEWBIE"?

Fil-Japanese firm to put up 41 MW of solar projects nationwide (http://www.zambotimes.com/archives/27062-Fil-Japanese-firm-to-put-up-41-MW-of-solar-projects-nationwide.html)
Wednesday, January 12. 2011
by LAM/ASF/utb

A Filipino-Japanese company, Eco-Merge Philippines, is looking at putting up four solar power projects in the country that will deliver 41 megawatts in the next two to three years.

Eco-Merge president Edgar Morada told reporters that the company is working with SMEC (Snowly Mountains Engineering Corp.), an international consultancy to conduct the feasibility study on its four solar projects that would need investments of around $ 150 million to $ 164 million.

"It is a long-term commitment of Eco-Merge with support from SMEC for this series of projects we are going to have," Morada said.

Morada said they will also eventually venture into other renewable energy (RE) sources such as wind and hydro.

"We will eventually diversify our RE portfolio, but for now the focus is on solar energy," Morada said.

Eco-Merge's projects are in response to the call of the government for investments in the power sector particularly in renewable energy following the passage of the Renewable Energy Act of 2008.

Eco-Merge will first undertake the proposed 11 MW solar photovoltaic power plant in Camarines Sur located in south Luzon.

Other priority areas being considered is Negros Occidental in the Visayas (10MW), Agusan Del Norte (10 MW) and Zamboanga (10 MW) both in Mindanao. A 1-MW solar project requires an investment of around $ 3 million to $ 4 million.

"(The Camsur) is one of the first projects we are planning to undertake. What is more important is we now have a partnership with SMEC. It is just one of the projects we are going to undertake in cooperation with SMEC," Morada said.

"SMEC will be involved from establishing the feasibility of the project all the way to the engineering and technical side. Right now the initial estimate is about $ 40 million (cost) for the 11 MW," he said.

Eco-Merge is now talking with commercial banks and multilateral institutions to fund at least 70 percent of the CamSur project.

Eco-Merge, which has a sister company in the US, signed an agreement with SMEC Philippines for the feasibility study of the Camsur project on Monday.
The feasibility study is expected to take between three to four months. Eco-Merge targets the groundbreaking ceremonies for the Camsur project on November 11 this year.

SMEC chief operating officer for Asia Pacific Division Michael Blee said SMEC was appointed as consultant to provide technical advise for the development of the proposed 11-MW solar plant in CamSur. SMEC is one of the leading engineering and development consultant in the world particularly in the field of new and renewable energy.

SMEC will prepare the study and provide assistance to Eco-Merge in securing government clearance and permits particularly the service contracts with the Department of Energy (DOE).

Eco-Merge's wants to partner with local government units for the requirement of the solar projects either through joint venture or lease agreements. The Camsur project needs about 22 hectares for the establishment of facilities needed to install 11 MW of solar power.

The company is currently discussing initial collaboration with potential partners, including the provincial government of Camarines Sur. Eco-Merge targets to sell electricity output from the 11 MW solar plant to the Camarines Sur Electric Cooperative II and any excess to the grid. (PNA)



gqacias na este informacion Stern!:):):)

:cheers:


:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:

:lol::lol::lol:LOLZ... bien MAKA-MALO brain NOY si nuay quien quiere le de tu chavacano post nu? BWAHAHAHAHhahahahahaaa... :lol::lol::lol:

dol hasta ara bien duele pa man bariga... quetal man? toma dayun diatabs...BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahaaa

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:




dol Moñeca de Pugon ya man este!:bash::bash::bash:

magkakaroon kaya rito ng mini stop or 7 eleven ano sa tinigin nyo?

magkakaroon kaya rito ng mini stop or 7 eleven ano sa tinigin nyo?

Puede.. Pero as of now, tingin ko well-served naman ang most places ng mga home-grown convenience store chains. :) Gaya na lang nga drug stores, hindi masyadong maka-expand ang Mercury Drug kasi grabe ang expansion ng mga local pharmacy chains na mostly ay pang national level din naman ang services. :colgate:

Puede.. Pero as of now, tingin ko well-served naman ang most places ng mga home-grown convenience store chains. :) Gaya na lang nga drug stores, hindi masyadong maka-expand ang Mercury Drug kasi grabe ang expansion ng mga local pharmacy chains na mostly ay pang national level din naman ang services. :colgate:

Na basa ko new lng na ang mini stop business unit din ng JG summit pareho sila ng RLC.. baka may possibilty pag may Rob na dito dba.:)

sarap din kasi ang mga binibenta ni lng mga food at drinks sa mini stop at 7 eleven..hehehe

dol Moñeca de Pugon ya man este!:bash::bash::bash:

:bash::bash::bash:Gracias moñeca de posos negro:bash::bash::bash:

bien bale usa escribi el dialect de Chavaculu... sorry, its Chavacano... my bad:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

sarap din kasi ang mga binibenta ni lng mga food at drinks sa mini stop at 7 eleven..hehehe

yups, masarap nga yung mga tinapay sa mini stop and yung mga "microwaveable" foods (is there such a word as "microwaveable"???...lolz):cheers:

Na basa ko new lng na ang mini stop business unit din ng JG summit pareho sila ng RLC.. baka may possibilty pag may Rob na dito dba.:)

Siguro at sana nga :colgate: Karamihan kasi sa mga sineserve ng mga current convenience stores eh yung mga well-established residential areas na kasi. Marami na ngayong mga nagsusulputang mga subdivisions sa iba't ibang lugar so I guess there's still / there's going to be plenty of room pa for them to fill in. :)

yups, masarap nga yung mga tinapay sa mini stop and yung mga "microwaveable" foods (is there such a word as "microwaveable"???...lolz):cheers:

It's in the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, so I guess it is. :colgate:

Siguro at sana nga :colgate: Karamihan kasi sa mga sineserve ng mga current convenience stores eh yung mga well-established residential areas na kasi. Marami na ngayong mga nagsusulputang mga subdivisions sa iba't ibang lugar so I guess there's still / there's going to be plenty of room pa for them to fill in. :)


Yung GoHotel sa Mandaluyong may Mini Stop sa tabi ng entrance right after the coffee shop... Be at Gohotels again this Saturday...

Most probably lalagyan ng Mini Stop yung Rob-Zambo:cheers:

Yung GoHotel sa Mandaluyong may Mini Stop sa tabi ng entrance right after the coffee shop... Be at Gohotels again this Saturday...

Most probably lalagyan ng Mini Stop yung Rob-Zambo:cheers:

saan pala location mo po?

It's in the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, so I guess it is. :colgate:

tnx... didn't check it earlier before i posted that one:wallbash:

saan pala location mo po?

am from Zamboanga... will be traveling a lot this year due to CebPac and AirPhil promos... got three round trip tickets from CebPac @ P97.20 each... all for this month:rofl:

Siguro at sana nga :colgate: Karamihan kasi sa mga sineserve ng mga current convenience stores eh yung mga well-established residential areas na kasi. Marami na ngayong mga nagsusulputang mga subdivisions sa iba't ibang lugar so I guess there's still / there's going to be plenty of room pa for them to fill in. :)

maganda din sya 24hrs open..:)

Yung GoHotel sa Mandaluyong may Mini Stop sa tabi ng entrance right after the coffee shop... Be at Gohotels again this Saturday...

Most probably lalagyan ng Mini Stop yung Rob-Zambo:cheers:

MagkakaGo Hotel man din ang Zamboanga by 2013. So I guess magkakaMiniStop din yan eventually. :colgate:

am from Zamboanga... will be traveling a lot this year due to CebPac and AirPhil promos... got three round trip tickets from CebPac @ P97.20 each... all for this month:rofl:

wow.. bien barato.. nakuha ko yun 980.. sobrang mahal na compare to yours. nung wen yan promo mo? dec ko to nakuha..

ganda ng buhay mo travel2x lng buti ka pa.:D

stern your the youngest here?

am from Zamboanga... will be traveling a lot this year due to CebPac and AirPhil promos... got three round trip tickets from CebPac @ P97.20 each... all for this month:rofl:

I got 4 200-peso roundtrip tickets from CebPac's 10-10-10 promo! :lol: You got yours from CebPac's Dec2010 Piso Sale or also from the 10-10-10 promo? :)

I got 4 200-peso roundtrip tickets from CebPac's 10-10-10 promo! :lol: You got yours from CebPac's Dec2010 Piso Sale or also from the 10-10-10 promo? :)

saan yun destination cebu or manila? pag promo ng CebuPac's GO lite lahat?

stern your the youngest here?

I'm not sure about that. :) I think there are other ZC forumers na halos ka-age ko lang, months / days lang ang difference. :)

ganda ng buhay mo travel2x lng buti ka pa.:D

got my tickets last June 10-11, 2010... independence day promo nila

got my Gohotels room @ 388.00... also a promo

til December 2011 tickets ko for travel... all @ promo price

kansaw tamen si pirmi biyahe y magastos...
enough of this... baka tiene quien rabya

great nyt

saan yun destination cebu or manila? pag promo ng CebuPac's GO lite lahat?

Puede yun sa lahat ng destination ng CEB. :) Manila, Cebu, and Davao yung kinuha ko. :colgate: Hindi. Puede din hindi Go Lite. P100 yung dagdagan sa Go Lite fare. :)

Puede yun sa lahat ng destination ng CEB. :) Manila, Cebu, and Davao yung kinuha ko. :colgate: Hindi. Puede din hindi Go Lite. P100 yung dagdagan sa Go Lite fare. :)

wow! buti ka pa.. ako parts of luzon pa lng napuntahan ko.. di pa ako naka apak ng davao at cebu..:lol: always wanted to go to cebu.

Philippines may get $5-M grant for PPPs
By Cai U. Ordinario, Business Mirror
Posted at 01/12/2011 10:44 PM | Updated as of 01/12/2011 10:51 PM

MANILA, Philippines - If all goes well, the Philippines could get $5-million (P220.6 million) grant to help push the government’s public-private partnership (PPP) projects.

Rolando Tungpalan, National Economic and Development Authority (Neda) deputy director general for Investment Programming, said the government has just concluded a fact-finding mission with the prospective donors of the capacity development technical assistance.

These are the

* Asian Development Bank
* Canadian International Development Agency
* Australian Agency for International Development

The fact-finding mission is a prelude to providing the government with the grant, which aims to build the government’s capacity to ensure the “bankability” of all projects to be structured as under the PPP, the Project Development and Monitoring Facility (PDMF).

“The Philippine government appreciates the early response of these three major partners.” Tungpalan said. The signing could take place within the month.

Tungpalan said the grant will be used to, among other things, obtain the services of “transactional advisors” for each PPP project to be undertaken by the government. Such advisors help ensure that the risks involved for both the private and public sectors are fair for both parties, he said.

Tungpalan said if the government could successfully bid out at least two or three PPP projects of the 10 launched in October, this would already be a good sign of the interest of the private sector in PPPs.

Earlier, Socioeconomic Planning Secretary Cayetano Paderanga, who is also Neda director general, said the government was negotiating with donor countries, agencies and multilateral institutions to help replenish the P300-million PDMF.

Resorting to financial support from donors and multilaterals is just insurance in case the PDMF, a revolving fund, does not get replenished in time to finance the PPPs needs, he said.

The PDMF, Paderanga said, will be used to finance the needs of the PPP, such as hiring consultants and undertaking project evaluation and design activities.

Due to the high costs of project preparation, implementing agencies are also tapping donors to finance project preparation.

Ruben Reinoso, transportation and communication undersecretary for planning and concurrent director of the Neda infrastructure staff, told the BusinessMirror the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) was also tapping several donors to finance the project preparations for various PPP airport projects.

Reinoso said they include the US, through the US Trade and Development Agency (USTDA), Japan, Singapore and China.

Through the technical grants, Reinoso said the government would also be able to reduce its costs by $1 million or even more than $2 million per project.

Reinoso said the DOTC was proposing to the USTDA to finance the project-preparation cost of 4 airports,

* Laguindingan airport
* Coron-Busuanga airport
* Cebu-Mactan international airport
* Zamboanga international airport

He said if the USTDA finances even just one of these projects, this would already be a big help in reducing the government’s expenses.

Japan and Singapore are being tapped to finance the project- preparation requirements for the Panglao airport and Puerto Princesa, respectively, he said.

^^
Thanks, Sir! :cheers:

:bash::bash::bash:Gracias moñeca de posos negro:bash::bash::bash:

bien bale usa escribi el dialect de Chavaculu... sorry, its Chavacano... my bad:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:



que? tu cu____ olor enbornal?buajajajajajaja

usted ya lang gaja el jendeh pa ta calla huh?

kame callao ya... pero alli el hombreyoquiere bien caliente pa gayot hasta ahora.:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Government taps donors for PPP airports (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/regions/6051-government-taps-donors-for-ppp-airports)
TUESDAY, 11 JANUARY 2011 20:15 CAI U. ORDINARIO / REPORTER

THE national government is in the process of negotiating with several donors to finance the preparation and tender documents for various airport projects that will be implemented through the Public-Private Partnership (PPP).

This was confirmed by the Department of Transportation and Communication (DOTC) undersecretary for planning and concurrent National Economic and Development Authority (Neda) infrastructure staff director Ruben S. Reinoso in an interview with the BusinessMirror.

Reinoso said the donors being tapped to provide grants include the United States through the US Trade and Development Agency (USTDA) and the governments of Japan, Singapore and the People’s Republic of China.

Through the technical grants, Reinoso said the government will also be able to reduce its costs by $1 million to as high as over $2 million per project. This means that if each donor will finance one airport preparation each, this would mean a combined grant of around $4 million to $8 million.

This, Reinoso said, is the cost of updating the feasibility studies made for the airports, structuring the projects for PPP, and drafting the tender documents, among other project preparation activities.

“We want to access these grants. If we use what we have already allocated in the DOTC for project preparation, sandali lang 'yun, dalawa, tatlo at most, apat na projects lang ang magagawa namin dun [We will only be able to make two, three at most, four projects]. It’s not cheap, definitely,” Reinoso said.

Reinoso explained that on top of the regular DOTC budget of P200 million, the PPP project preparation allocation in the DOTC budget only amounts to P250 million, which is not sufficient to cover all project preparation costs of multiple projects.

He added that even with a P5-billion additional budget provided to the DOTC, this is not allotted for project preparation but actual counterpart funds for PPP projects being implemented by implementing agencies.

Based on the 2011 budget, the government alloted an additional PPP budget worth P15 billion for three agencies with the most PPP undertakings—the DOTC, the Department of Agriculture, and Department of Public Works and Highways.

Reinoso said the DOTC is proposing to the USTDA to finance the project preparation cost of four airports*—the Laguindingan airport, Coron-Busuanga airport, Cebu-Mactan international airport, and the Zamboanga international airport. He said that if the USTDA will finance even just one of these projects, this will already be a big help in reducing the government’s expenses.

The government official added that financing the project preparation requirements for the Panglao airport and Puerto Princesa airport are being proposed to be financed by the governments of Japan and Singapore, respectively.

However, the project preparation for other airport projects slated to be submitted as PPP projects such as the Daraga airport in Bicol and the Kalibo airport in Aklan will be financed by the DOTC and be patterned after the airport development in Panglao and Puerto Princesa.

“We’re about to conclude the negotiation for the Singapore $1.2 million [financing] with the Singaporean government for project preparation and capacity building,” Reinoso added.

Earlier, Neda director general and Socioeconomic Planning Secretary Dr. Cayetano W. Paderanga Jr. said the national government is now in talks with donor countries and agencies as well as multilateral institutions to help replenish the P300 million worth Project Development and Monitoring Facility (PDMF).

Paderanga said, however, that resorting to financial support from donors and multilaterals is just an insurance in case the PDMF, a revolving fund, does not get replenished in time to finance the PPP Center’s needs.

The PDMF, Paderanga said, will be used to finance the needs of the PPP Center such as hiring consultants and undertaking project evaluation and design activities.

The Neda chief said the PDMF will be replenished once projects are already designed and approved by the Neda board. Paderanga said the proponent will bid for the project and include a reimbursement to the PDMF.

(Escribiendo Na Lenguaje Zamboangueño)




Confirmado Noticia desde con mi mentor y maestro antes na Colegio de Arquitectura na Universidad Estada de Occidental Mindanao si Arquitecto Rodel Falcasantos, el Jefe del Departamento del OBO alli dentro del Ayuntamiento.


favor lee el enseguduigas. . .


RPBD January 5 at 5:19pm
que tal sir?

Sir, tene lang yo poco de cuestiones contigo por acerca el entrada del Robinson, SM y otras Grande Establecemiento si tiene ba estos aseguro. o base alli na de tu Deaprtment, cosa cosa ahora el proyectos del Ciudad de Zamboanga?

Sir, y tene tambien yo pregunta...
posible ba puede obtene una el Business Permit segun el un negociante de Manila (ejemplo, dueño del Robinson) tan plano plano pa lang entra na Ciudad para construi su Edificio? o posible ba puede una saca Business permit antes Building permit, Occupation Permit o Permit from the Fire Protection?

muchas gracias Sir!


Rodel Falcasantos January 12 at 6:15pm Report
no hay seguro, baka hype lng. para subi value d real estate. no plans hav been submitted to us yet. bldg pemit is a prwrequisite for a business permit.


Claro este conaton todo aqui...
mucho proceso que necesita hace antes obtene el building permit.
una, complete Working Drawings i.e. Architectural Plans, Structural Plans, Electrical Plans, Sanitary, Mechanical, et.al.
2nd, debe obtene una el Clearance from the Beureu on Fire Protection, etc. etc.

entonces que Robinson Zamboanga que hay entra alli conaton na Ciudad de Zamboanga es un clase de Hyper Maket Solamente y no como grande esttablecemiento gayot.



(Escribiendo Na Lenguaje Zamboangueño)

PPA to invest more than P1B in ship-traffic tracking (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/regions/6090-ppa-to-invest-more-than-p1b-in-ship-traffic-tracking-)
WEDNESDAY, 12 JANUARY 2011 19:51 VG CABUAG / REPORTER

THE Philippine Ports Authority (PPA) may invest more than P1 billion to put up various vessel traffic monitoring system (VTMS) in four major areas in the country as a part of its move to modernize the country’s ports.

PPA general manager Juan Sta. Ana said the agency will accelerate the implementation of its medium-term plans which includes putting up VTMS facilities in Iloilo, Davao, Zamboanga and Romblon.

According to estimates, each VTMS is worth about P400 million which already include all the necessary equipment and link-ups to the current government systems. The price of the VTMS equipment may vary depending on the area that it hopes to cover.

At present, the PPA has constructed VTMS in Manila and Batangas Port.

The establishment of the VTMS is in accordance with the International Convention on the Safety of Life at Sea finalized in 1974. VTMS is commonly used by port operators to manage vessel traffic, monitor the port environment and as support to port and harbor resources. This can be compared with the air traffic control center for airports.

Setting up of VTMS facilities is part of PPA’s strategy to modernize the country’s ports during the term of President Aquino.

“As a forward-looking strategy, the PPA hopes to embark  more aggressively on port capacity-building projects to include the extension of  piers  and  berth lengths,  expansion of pier backup areas such as container yards and truck holding areas,  rehabilitation of port facilities, construction of  adequate modern, safe and  comfortable Passenger Terminal Buildings and undertaking of dredging  works nationwide,” Sta. Ana  said in a statement.

The PPA, however, did not give estimates as to how much funds it will allocate for the said modernization plans.

Capacity buildup ranks number one in the PPA’s plan, according to Sta. Ana, with the plan to start improving the major gateways utilizing the corporate funds or, if necessary, through borrowing from financial institutions. 

“The PPA likewise will be aggressively pursuing its computerization plans which hopefully will be in full swing nationwide anytime soon so that various strategies already are being implemented in order to achieve this goal,” he said.  

In addition to the already existing x-ray machines and other similar port equipment, the state firm also plans to procure more safety and security equipment so that safety of the passengers and the cargoes entering the port zone can be better assured, Sta. Ana added.

entonces que Robinson Zamboanga que hay entra alli conaton na Ciudad de Zamboanga es un clase de Hyper Maket Solamente y no como grande esttablecemiento gayot.


What brought you to this conclusion? There's nothing stated about a hypermarket or anything close to that type of establishment in the response that you've got. If I remember correctly, a forumer from ZC said that the Director of Human Resources in the city hall disclosed that Robinsons already has its Mayor's Permit.

Monday, 20 December 2010 13:57
Zamboanga Today

"The mayor also announced that Robinsons Mall, one of the biggest malls in Manila is scheduled to ground break in this city on April next year."

src (http://www.zamboangatoday.ph/index.php/news/13-top-stories/2188-lobregat-says-price-of-local-lots-hinder-entry-of-big-malls-.html)

What brought you to this conclusion? There's nothing stated about a hypermarket or anything close to that type of establishment in the response that you've got. If I remember correctly, a forumer from ZC said that the Director of Human Resources in the city hall disclosed that Robinsons already has its Mayor's Permit.


Stern, favor lee el mensaje de Arch. Rodel Falcasantos...
HyperMarket lang.
ta acorda yo aquel que aquel alguno ya habla alla pa na Hilo 39. pero ya explica ya gane que no puede saca una Business Permit si no hay pa tu building Permit.

Building Permit to Obtain prior to business permit. after building Permit, Occupation permit... but before el Building Permit debe anay saca el Certifcado na Fire Protection as Clearance que el edificio ya cumple todo si cosa man ya habla na Fire Code of the Philippines.

prior to above stated, of course, Feasibility Studies first, Proposal in a form of Documents, etc.

Stern, favor lee el mensaje de Arch. Rodel Falcasantos...
HyperMarket lang.
ta acorda yo aquel que aquel alguno ya habla alla pa na Hilo 39. pero ya explica ya gane que no puede saca una Business Permit si no hay pa tu building Permit.

Building Permit to Obtain prior to business permit. after building Permit, Occupation permit... but before el Building Permit debe anay saca el Certifcado na Fire Protection as Clearance que el edificio ya cumple todo si cosa man ya habla na Fire Code of the Philippines.

prior to above stated, of course, Feasibility Studies first, Proposal in a form of Documents, etc.

if im not mistaken mr acer. i think he is pointing to sm prime since sm has a hypermart, makro, sm city, etc

while the robina corporation is - cebu pac, go hotel, robinsons place, robinsons mall, c2, jack and jil, sun celular, robinsons supermarket =)

if im not mistaken mr acer. i think he is pointing to sm prime since sm has a hypermart, makro, sm city, etc

while the robina corporation is - cebu pac, go hotel, robinsons place, robinsons mall, c2, jack and jil, sun celular, robinsons supermarket =)


mira ya lang kita Psy..jejejeje
pero tene tambien Hypermarket el Robinson...
jendeh ba aquel na CdO el Robinson alla es dentro lang de mismo mall del Limketkai? si acorda yo....Hypermarket gaja aquel.not sure.. basih sabe se si Pagadianongyud cay jendeh ba talla le ahora ta trabaja?:):)

If Robinsons Place Zamboanga has been completed..

What are the odds that some of its tenants in manila will also be expanding in robinsons zamboanga?

I like that to happen

Rodel Falcasantos January 12 at 6:15pm Report
no hay seguro, baka hype lng. para subi value d real estate. no plans hav been submitted to us yet. bldg pemit is a prwrequisite for a business permit.




As I understand. he is not also sure of the plans yet. The word "yet" should tell us something.

Guys, Let us just wait for the coming months. How about that one? If we were able to wait for so many years then a few months would not be a problem. Right?:)

(Escribiendo Na Lenguaje Zamboangueño)




Confirmado Noticia desde con mi mentor y maestro antes na Colegio de Arquitectura na Universidad Estada de Occidental Mindanao si Arquitecto Rodel Falcasantos, el Jefe del Departamento del OBO alli dentro del Ayuntamiento.


favor lee el enseguduigas. . .


RPBD January 5 at 5:19pm
que tal sir?

Sir, tene lang yo poco de cuestiones contigo por acerca el entrada del Robinson, SM y otras Grande Establecemiento si tiene ba estos aseguro. o base alli na de tu Deaprtment, cosa cosa ahora el proyectos del Ciudad de Zamboanga?

Sir, y tene tambien yo pregunta...
posible ba puede obtene una el Business Permit segun el un negociante de Manila (ejemplo, dueño del Robinson) tan plano plano pa lang entra na Ciudad para construi su Edificio? o posible ba puede una saca Business permit antes Building permit, Occupation Permit o Permit from the Fire Protection?

muchas gracias Sir!


Rodel Falcasantos January 12 at 6:15pm Report
no hay seguro, baka hype lng. para subi value d real estate. no plans hav been submitted to us yet. bldg pemit is a prwrequisite for a business permit.


Claro este conaton todo aqui...
mucho proceso que necesita hace antes obtene el building permit.
una, complete Working Drawings i.e. Architectural Plans, Structural Plans, Electrical Plans, Sanitary, Mechanical, et.al.
2nd, debe obtene una el Clearance from the Beureu on Fire Protection, etc. etc.

entonces que Robinson Zamboanga que hay entra alli conaton na Ciudad de Zamboanga es un clase de Hyper Maket Solamente y no como grande esttablecemiento gayot.



(Escribiendo Na Lenguaje Zamboangueño)

What? Hypermarket lang? Matapos nang magexpect ng matagal na full-service mall, hypermarket lang pala? That sucks... I hope they will change their minds to make even a two-storey mall... I don't believe that!

I think its a mall.. they wont acquire a really big lot if it was only a supermarket they were planning to build.. dba hypermarket sa mga SM yun?

There's no confirmation whether it's a mall or hype. Wait na lng talaga tayo. :)

I think its a mall.. they wont acquire a really big lot if it was only a supermarket they were planning to build.. dba hypermarket sa mga SM yun?

Un nga, pero i don't think yung parking ng mga cars. If i'm in the place of Robinsons, I suggest there will be a spacious terminal for jeepneys/tricycles or a load/unloading area sa may Nuñez area. Maraming mga jeep ng Pasonanca, Tumaga, Santa Maria ang dumadaan sa Nunez.

To add naman sanang excitement, dapat may cinehan din kahit tatlo lang para maeenjoy ung mga manonood... Bitin kasi pag mindpro lang, limited kasi ang showing days that would last in a week or less...\

There's also a possibility of having the country's national bookstore, NBS, because there are more students who are in need of high quality books and supplies...

Local establishments like Chinito's and Joan's Pharmacy will have a branch in Robinsons.

That's what I wanted to observe.

Huwag naman sanang Hypermarket lang or matulad sa Novaliches at Sta. Rosa.... as in MaRket!

last 2 months na lang man we will know the truth than years^^

Un nga, pero i don't think yung parking ng mga cars. If i'm in the place of Robinsons, I suggest there will be a spacious terminal for jeepneys/tricycles or a load/unloading area sa may Nuñez area. Maraming mga jeep ng Pasonanca, Tumaga, Santa Maria ang dumadaan sa Nunez.

To add naman sanang excitement, dapat may cinehan din kahit tatlo lang para maeenjoy ung mga manonood... Bitin kasi pag mindpro lang, limited kasi ang showing days that would last in a week or less...\

There's also a possibility of having the country's national bookstore, NBS, because there are more students who are in need of high quality books and supplies...

Local establishments like Chinito's and Joan's Pharmacy will have a branch in Robinsons.

That's what I wanted to observe.

Huwag naman sanang Hypermarket lang or matulad sa Novaliches at Sta. Rosa.... as in MaRket!

yup dapat talaga may cinehan yun state of the art cinemas sana para we can watch 3D movies here.. yup hindi sana hypermarket lng.
si ancna lng man mas manpili ata mga hente kompra na local kaysa na hypermarket kay mas barato.
and for National Book Store dapat talaga meron dito kasi may mga universities tau at mas maraming schools dito compare to other cities in our region.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs008.ash2/33751_156643494355796_100000304392784_367983_5752114_n.jpg

ngaun ko lang nalaman na may railway na pala during 1900 ang zambo^^ para saan kaya to^^

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs008.ash2/33751_156643471022465_100000304392784_367979_5259878_n.jpg

American-Zamboangueno high officials in front of the now City Hall....

Zamboanga was used to be the leading city in Mindanao during the American era. Since World War II, Zamboanga is always lagging behind new cities like Davao, then Cagayan de Oro, Iligan, Butuan and GenSan. Even Dipolog and (most controversially) Pagadian makes the status of Zamboanga worse than ever.

I've watched Dateline Zamboanga, especially the Cuando Cuando segment, and Ronnie Lledo, anchor of the said news program, stated that the transference of the regioinal offices to Pagadian will worsen the economic and financial impact of the city as well as social impact sinces 75% of the offices are still in Zamboanga and the families of the employees will be displaced. I bet that PNoy will hear the people's voice rather than of Pagadianon officials.

If La Hermosa is tagged as the commercial and industrial city in Region IX (Pagadian-managed), why Gaisano, Robinsons and even SM put up investments in Pagadian? Is it being lured or hypnotized by Sammy Co and the Cerilleses to divert businesses from Zamboanga to Pagadian? I hope that once Robinsons will come to the city, the economic situation in Zamboanga will be better.

If Zamboanga is a highly urbanized city, why Pagadian have enjoyed more quality of life, whilst Zamboanga has goods that are pirated or imitation ones? How can Zamboanga enjoy the spur of development when Pagadian is not the logical or practical choice for regional center?

If GenSan is merely developed even it's not the Regional Capital of RXII, why Zamboanga is still stagnant in economy and financial aspects?

The Bigdate... January 21, 22, or 23... To whom PNoy will follow? the corruptive officials of Pagadiuan-Zambosur or the suffering employees and Zamboanguenos?

nasa zamboanga ako ngayong sabado...

guys, pls do take charge of nj.. please, if you want to promote our city well, then pls do accommodate and/or (entertain?:lol:) our visitors and tourists as well. VIVA!! :banana:

Zamboanga was used to be the leading city in Mindanao during the American era. Since World War II, Zamboanga is always lagging behind new cities like Davao, then Cagayan de Oro, Iligan, Butuan and GenSan. Even Dipolog and (most controversially) Pagadian makes the status of Zamboanga worse than ever.

I've watched Dateline Zamboanga, especially the Cuando Cuando segment, and Ronnie Lledo, anchor of the said news program, stated that the transference of the regioinal offices to Pagadian will worsen the economic and financial impact of the city as well as social impact sinces 75% of the offices are still in Zamboanga and the families of the employees will be displaced. I bet that PNoy will hear the people's voice rather than of Pagadianon officials.

If La Hermosa is tagged as the commercial and industrial city in Region IX (Pagadian-managed), why Gaisano, Robinsons and even SM put up investments in Pagadian? Is it being lured or hypnotized by Sammy Co and the Cerilleses to divert businesses from Zamboanga to Pagadian? I hope that once Robinsons will come to the city, the economic situation in Zamboanga will be better.

If Zamboanga is a highly urbanized city, why Pagadian have enjoyed more quality of life, whilst Zamboanga has goods that are pirated or imitation ones? How can Zamboanga enjoy the spur of development when Pagadian is not the logical or practical choice for regional center?

If GenSan is merely developed even it's not the Regional Capital of RXII, why Zamboanga is still stagnant in economy and financial aspects?

The Bigdate... January 21, 22, or 23... To whom PNoy will follow? the corruptive officials of Pagadiuan-Zambosur or the suffering employees and Zamboanguenos?


Yes i also heard from my uncle that it is the leading city in mindanao in the american era..
thats why the japanese chose to invade zamboanga and put their base here. sayang talaga
kung hindi sana napili ang ZC for their invasion the progress of the city didn't stop.. tuloy-tuloy sana un..
kaya na divert raw in to other cities in mindanao like CDO and Davao.. kaya mas progressive ngayon sila kaysa sa City natin.

magkakaroon kaya rito ng mini stop or 7 eleven ano sa tinigin nyo?


Our local convenient stores can manage that for us! ZALO's for one. :okay:



Our local versions are the ones dominating and running the different kinds of establishments for us. ;)

wow.. bien barato.. nakuha ko yun 980.. sobrang mahal na compare to yours. nung wen yan promo mo? dec ko to nakuha..


cEbu ako now with family. priced at 231pesos for a RT tix each. Thanks to promos from our local airlies. Sana pumasok na ang Zestair. para maging stiffer ang competition... :banana::banana::banana:

whats the meaning of orgullo de mindanao?

cEbu ako now with family. priced at 231pesos for a RT tix each. Thanks to promos from our local airlies. Sana pumasok na ang Zestair. para maging stiffer ang competition... :banana::banana::banana:

yes sana nga.. para mas bumaba ang air fares..:banana:

Our local convenient stores can manage that for us! ZALO's for one. :okay:



Our local versions are the ones dominating and running the different kinds of establishments for us. ;)

Agree! Zamboanga's economy is growing through homegrown businesses. We should not conclude that Zamboanga's economy is stagnant just because we don't have big national malls here.

wow! buti ka pa.. ako parts of luzon pa lng napuntahan ko.. di pa ako naka apak ng davao at cebu..:lol: always wanted to go to cebu.

Puede yun sa lahat ng destination ng CEB. :) Manila, Cebu, and Davao yung kinuha ko. :colgate: Hindi. Puede din hindi Go Lite. P100 yung dagdagan sa Go Lite fare. :)

got my tickets last June 10-11, 2010... independence day promo nila

got my Gohotels room @ 388.00... also a promo

til December 2011 tickets ko for travel... all @ promo price

kansaw tamen si pirmi biyahe y magastos...
enough of this... baka tiene quien rabya

great nyt


ano kaya kung abang tayo ulit next promo tas travel tayo sabay2x SSC Zambo and meet with other SSC from the Phils. :) Gandang trip yun! Gastos! haha :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

ano kaya kung abang tayo ulit next promo tas travel tayo sabay2x SSC Zambo and meet with other SSC from the Phils. :) Gandang trip yun! Gastos! haha :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

pwd din.:lol:

yes sana nga.. para mas bumaba ang air fares..:banana:


kahapon pala sa flight 2P356 7pm flight bound for Cebu, 5 seats lang natira, imagine? peak season rin kasi for destinations for Sinulog Fest.. hehe...



Speaking of which, there's a new pakulo from APX...



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Zamboanga was used to be the leading city in Mindanao during the American era. Since World War II, Zamboanga is always lagging behind new cities like Davao, then Cagayan de Oro, Iligan, Butuan and GenSan. Even Dipolog and (most controversially) Pagadian makes the status of Zamboanga worse than ever.

You really need to calm down, you know?.

I've watched Dateline Zamboanga, especially the Cuando Cuando segment, and Ronnie Lledo, anchor of the said news program, stated that the transference of the regioinal offices to Pagadian will worsen the economic and financial impact of the city as well as social impact sinces 75% of the offices are still in Zamboanga and the families of the employees will be displaced. I bet that PNoy will hear the people's voice rather than of Pagadianon officials.

The study is already on the process. This time a fair and just decision will be given. (I Hope).

If La Hermosa is tagged as the commercial and industrial city in Region IX (Pagadian-managed), why Gaisano, Robinsons and even SM put up investments in Pagadian? Is it being lured or hypnotized by Sammy Co and the Cerilleses to divert businesses from Zamboanga to Pagadian? I hope that once Robinsons will come to the city, the economic situation in Zamboanga will be better.

I guess their LGU is just active in inviting investors in their place. Pray our LGU is more aggressive this time. It seems they were too confident in the past.

If Zamboanga is a highly urbanized city, why Pagadian have enjoyed more quality of life, whilst Zamboanga has goods that are pirated or imitation ones? How can Zamboanga enjoy the spur of development when Pagadian is not the logical or practical choice for regional center?

This is the second time you mentioned the issue on quality of life? I don't get it. Sorry.

Zamboanga is already enjoying daily flights to MNL-CEBU-DVO. It has flights to JOLO and Tawi2x too. We have an International air and seaport. So are you not enjoying this kind of things already?

Zamboanga have the known Universities in the region or if I may say in the country as well. Students from Pagadian even come here to enroll in these universities. Are you not happy with that?

If GenSan is merely developed even it's not the Regional Capital of RXII, why Zamboanga is still stagnant in economy and financial aspects?

I know our economy isn't moving that fast compared to Gensan but I'm sure our economy is NOT stagnant.

The Bigdate... January 21, 22, or 23... To whom PNoy will follow? the corruptive officials of Pagadiuan-Zambosur or the suffering employees and Zamboanguenos?

Now now, You sure our officials here are not corrupt? We really need to be patient mbell at least now a review of the transfer is being done. Ok. :)

kahapon pala sa flight 2P356 7pm flight bound for Cebu, 5 seats lang natira, imagine? peak season rin kasi for destinations for Sinulog Fest.. hehe...



Speaking of which, there's a new pakulo from APX...



http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs794.ash1/168400_497706896846_638086846_6681540_2418614_n.jpg

paano i upload sa wall?

Welcome in advance, Sir! :colgate:

yes... mag enjoy talaga ako for stay 2 days sa zamboanga at mag libot... pasyalan ko ang pasio del mar at kakain ng knickerbocker.. hehehe.. salamat sa pag welcome

^^Do take pictures as well sir. :) Btw, Land trip?

^^Do take pictures as well sir. :) Btw, Land trip?

^^ok...

Good NEWS guys.

PAL will be having their ZAM-CAGAYAN route effective APRIL 1, 2011

ZAMBOANGA to CAGAYAN

PR 990 Mo-We-Fr-Su DH4 07:30 08:40

CAGAYAN to ZAMBOANGA

PR 991 Mo-We-Fr-Su DH4 09:00 10:10

PAL will be taking over Airphil's bombardier aircraft. And there will be changes in their cebu-zam and dvo-zam flight no longer twice daily but reduce to one daily. I guess it's still ok. :cheers:

http://www.philippineairlines.com/Images/Domestic_Timetable_10Jan2011_tcm61-25085.pdf

Good NEWS guys.

PAL will be having their ZAM-CAGAYAN route effective APRIL 1, 2011

ZAMBOANGA to CAGAYAN

PR 990 Mo-We-Fr-Su DH4 07:30 08:40

CAGAYAN to ZAMBOANGA

PR 991 Mo-We-Fr-Su DH4 09:00 10:10

PAL will be taking over Airphil's bombardier aircraft. And there will be changes in their cebu-zam and dvo-zam flight no longer twice daily but reduce to one daily. I guess it's still ok. :cheers:

http://www.philippineairlines.com/Images/Domestic_Timetable_10Jan2011_tcm61-25085.pdf


ah.. buti na lng pinili namin ang night flight for CEbu last night,. it's enjoying to see the lights at night. Pweden paki-retain? hehe... Sige lang! at least my CGY-ZAM flyt na! :D

^^What will happen to airphil's MNL-ZAM route? may changes kaya?

Holidays in the Latin City of Asia (Last of 2 parts)
By Paul John A. Vesagas, RN, RM

Nurse Station

Tuesday, January 11, 2011


ZAMBOANGA City boasts of its wealth in cultural heritage. Its geographical location and dynamic history have made the city a cultural and religious melting pot for both Christians and Muslims.

With my desire to advance my knowledge on the city’s culture and history, I was lured to visit Zamboanga’s National Museum, which was named after the patroness of Zamboanga, Nuestra Señora del Pilar.

The interior of the said museum is where the historic fortress of Zamboanga stands. History has it that sometime in 1634, this fortress was built to forestall Spanish enemies like the Moro pirates and other foreign invaders. Over time, this fortress has become a major historical site for the numerous battles that took place in the city.

On the other hand, the museum also showcases centuries-old sunken vessels or boats made out of woods by the Moro natives then.

Adjacent to the museum was the city’s Paseo del Mar, a 2.5 hectare coast facing the scenic Basilan Strait. For me, it’s like the Night Market/Café we have in Cagayan de Oro only that it’s open 24/7 and it has a permanent location that fosters a relaxing atmosphere considering its location by the coast.

To further quench my thirst for Zamboangenio history, I thought it was worthwhile visiting institutions like The Gallery of the Peninsula and Archipelago, which was housed at the Ateneo de Zamboanga University (ADZU).

I then learned that the said Gallery showcased artworks -- paintings, woodworks and artifacts -- mostly made by local artists with the goal of promoting local talents. Apart from displaying their collections, the Gallery also does outreaches and workshops in painting, photography and sculpturing.

My eclectic search for answers to my interests, especially about the historic Shrine and Fortress of Fort Pilar, has moved me to interview Dr. Robert V. Panaguiton, a resident anthropologist of ADZU.

According to Dr. Panaguiton, the Shrine at the present has become a Catholic Place of Worship.

“Originally, the Shrine of Fort Pilar was an ecumenical place. Both Christians and Muslims pay homage to God and Allah. However, as time evolved and as more catholic icons like the cross and the ‘Lady’ were introduced, gradually the place became so Christian that Muslims felt alienated whenever they set foot on the Shrine,” he shares.

When asked about his opinion regarding the origin of the Chavacano language, he shares, “During the construction of the Fortress of Fort Pilar, the Spaniards had to solicit local manpower, mostly residents and natives from the Visayas region to help build the defensive wall. In order to overcome the language barrier between the Espanyol and the vernacular used by the Spaniards and natives, the Chavacano language was conceived. This was probably the reason why the Chavacano language earned the stigma of being a street language or ‘wrong grammar’ version of the Spanish language even up to date.”

After the interview, I was off to Jardin de Maria Clara, a butterfly garden named after the late mayor Maria Clara Lobregat.

A few kilometers away from the butterfly garden, I was able to reach another tourist spot -- the Lantaka area.

Lantaka is a Spanish word for cannons and it explains why the place was named as such because of the two centuries-old cannons left on display strategically located on the slope of a hill which was used by the Spanish troops to defend its turf during the American invasion.

The hill straight up following the road of the Lantaka area is the placed called the Cruz Major. It’s somewhat like the Malasag of Cagayan de Oro where there are stations of the cross as one progresses his way up to the hill only that the Cruz Major is three times farther the distance compared to Malasag.

Thinking that it was the best way of burning the calories and cholesterol I’ve taken during Christmas and New Year, I took the challenge of hiking my way up to the top of the hill where the Cruz Major was stationed. Upon reaching the top, the spectacular view of sunset overlooking the city and the Basilan strait was probably the best reward I’ve ever had of the experience.

After the adventurous trip to the Cruz Major, I got hungry. My cousin asked me if I had tried eating “Pastil,” a favorite Muslim dish that is patronized by both Christians and Muslims in Zamboanga. Since I also believed that in order to get into the culture of the place, one has to try their dish, so I did tried Pastil. The taste was quite unusual but exotic and palatable.

It’s no question that Zamboanga City has so much to boast. Unfortunately, the beautiful “hermosa-like” face of Zamboanga is less known to the public. Violence, the unending bombings and kidnappings mostly blamed to Muslim bandits have become the usual headlines whenever Asia’s Latin city is being talked about.

I love to stay, but at the end of this holiday trip, I can always say to myself that there’s no place like home. (paul_careline@live.com)

Published in the Sun.Star Cagayan de Oro newspaper on January 12, 2011.

^^Thanks sir Taegon

Airphil Express per Timetable
*Operated last Jan. 3, 2011 to March 31, 2011.
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*Effective on April 1, 2011 until further notice.
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Cebu Pacific Air per Timetable
*As of January 3, 2011.
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Philippine Airlines per Timetable
*Operated last Oct. 31, 2010 to March 31, 2011
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*Effective on April 1, 2011 until further notice.
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What? Hypermarket lang? Matapos nang magexpect ng matagal na full-service mall, hypermarket lang pala? That sucks... I hope they will change their minds to make even a two-storey mall... I don't believe that!

sad to say but ROB-Zambo will just be a hypermarket only, just like what they have built in davao...:bash::bash::bash:

guys, pls do take charge of nj.. please, if you want to promote our city well, then pls do accommodate and/or (entertain?:lol:) our visitors and tourists as well. VIVA!! :banana:

as much as i'd love to tour him around zambo... i just can't... i'll be flying to manila on that day... til when will our visitor be here in zambo?

sad to say but ROB-Zambo will just be a hypermarket only, just like what they have built in davao...:bash::bash::bash:

confirmed already?

Good NEWS guys.

PAL will be having their ZAM-CAGAYAN route effective APRIL 1, 2011

ZAMBOANGA to CAGAYAN

PR 990 Mo-We-Fr-Su DH4 07:30 08:40

CAGAYAN to ZAMBOANGA

PR 991 Mo-We-Fr-Su DH4 09:00 10:10

PAL will be taking over Airphil's bombardier aircraft. And there will be changes in their cebu-zam and dvo-zam flight no longer twice daily but reduce to one daily. I guess it's still ok. :cheers:

http://www.philippineairlines.com/Images/Domestic_Timetable_10Jan2011_tcm61-25085.pdf

let's :cheers: for this..

Go ZAM Hub!!

^^Biyahe na... madali na lng pumunta CDO tamang tama sa summer.. heheh :banana:

^^Thanks sir Taegon


You are welcome! Hindi na tayo magsakripisyo sa 8 hour land trip from Zamboanga-CdeO and vice versa. ^^

Let's :cheers: again!

You are welcome! Hindi na tayo magsakripisyo sa 8 hour land trip from Zamboanga-CdeO and vice versa. ^^

Let's :cheers: again!

:cheers:

As I understand. he is not also sure of the plans yet. The word "yet" should tell us something.


el palabra "yet" ta pertene que "no hay pa ni planos ya sumite na su Oficina suyo. Plans as in Working Drawings. "plans" ta pertene con el mana Documentos Contrata (Contract Documents) i.e. A Agreement
General Conditions
Specifications
Drawings
Project Estimate

As I understand. he is not also sure of the plans yet. The word "yet" should tell us something.


Holamrboy!
que tal?

hmmmm. "plans" ta pertene con el mana Contract Documents ese...

okey, puede ba yo explica mas largo?jejejejej gracias...

As I understand. he is not also sure of the plans yet. The word "yet" should tell us something.


el palabra "yet" ta pertene que "no hay pa ni planos ya sumite na su Oficina suyo. Plans as in Working Drawings. "plans" ta pertene con el mana Documentos Contrata (Contract Documents) The Contract consists of the following documents, including all additions, deletions, and modifications, incorporated therein before the execution of the Contract. 1. Agreement a letter stipulating the agreement between the owner and the Architect.
2. General Conditions >The printed documents stipulating the procedural and administrative aspects of the contract.
3. Specifications >The written or printed descriptions of work to be done describing qualities of material and mode of construction.
4. Drawings >Architectural PLans, Structural Plans, Electrical Plans, Mechanical Plans, Sanitary Plans, et.al.
5. Project Estimate >Bill of Quantities and Cost Estimate

prior in obtaining a Business Permit, debe obtene una Building Permit, Occupation Permit, Fire Protection Permit, et.al.:):)

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ngaun ko lang nalaman na may railway na pala during 1900 ang zambo^^ para saan kaya to^^

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American-Zamboangueno high officials in front of the now City Hall....





(Escribiendo na lenguaje Zamboangueño)

Muchas gracias con usted Psy!;-)
Lo Aprobaron gayot por tu contribucion...jejejejeje
masquen yo, ahora lang tambien yo este ya puede mira..;-) gracias!;-)

thanks for the explanation sir.

did he confirmed it's a hypermarket sir?



Rodel Falcasantos January 12 at 6:15pm Report
no hay seguro, baka hype lng. para subi value d real estate. no plans hav been submitted to us yet. bldg pemit is a prwrequisite for a business permit.





correct me if I'm wrong sir but is the "baka" in his statement "baka hype lng" means not also sure?

Thanks again for the info..:)

nasa zamboanga ako ngayong sabado...



:):):)Hola señor nj tHan!:):):)
:):):)que tal?:):):)
i'll hope that you'll enjoy ur stay in our Latin Zamobanga City..;-)







>>>para con mana Forumeros aqui, si quien man puede dale su hora o ayuda con NJ, favor ya lang kita acomoda.:):):)

whats the meaning of orgullo de mindanao?



hola Wade!
que tal usted?


"Orgullo de Mindanao, Zamboangueño for "Pride of Mindanao":):):)

Orgullo it is a noun Zamboangueño for "Pride"
Orgulloso or Orgullosa, it is an Adjective that describe the person of being such.
ex. bien orgulloso man gat vos doy.

de, is a preposition, Zamboangueño for "of, from" synonyms to "de" is "desde" meaning "from" although the word "desde always pertains to "from".

Agree! Zamboanga's economy is growing through homegrown businesses. We should not conclude that Zamboanga's economy is stagnant just because we don't have big national malls here.



Que tal usted Paso?:):):)
si! tupao gat tu...
y ese el buen ejemplo de todo donde que el de aton Ciudad esta progresivo no por causa de mana negociante estranijero sino ciudadanos mismo del ciudad de Zamboanga.

en este punto, cosa y quilaya ya lang gaja si hay entra pa el mana engrande establecemiento de afuera alli conaton?jendeh ba?:):):)

take note... segunmente que aqui na MIndanao, solamente aqui na Ciudad de Zamboanga que tiene el se llama "Cash-to-Cash transactions, et.al."

ano kaya kung abang tayo ulit next promo tas travel tayo sabay2x SSC Zambo and meet with other SSC from the Phils. :) Gandang trip yun! Gastos! haha :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:




Hola Marl!
Que tal usted?

hmmmm....puede! bonito gat se idea tuyo!;-)jejejejeje:banana::banana::banana:

thanks for the explanation sir.

did he confirmed it's a hypermarket sir?




correct me if I'm wrong sir but is the "baka" in his statement "baka hype lng" means not also sure?

Thanks again for the info..:)



Hola señor MRboy!
que tal otra vez!:)

ya borra ba yo el su mensaje... but according to him que 70/30 el chanza que basih Hypermarket lang... pero dejalo lang anay, cross-fingers anay kita..jejejeje si dale gat se conaton, hay dale gat el Dios conaton jendeh ba?

lastly, na su statement "Para Subi lang el Real Tax Property", entonces tene posibilidad que amo gane gayot.

ojala... con fasvor de Dios que jendeh Hypermarket. gracias!:)

^^thanks sir!

Wait, I'm getting a little confused here. So the architect's reply includes the entire thing below and not just the "bolded" sentences (red)? I thought the succeeding paragraphs (after the "bolded" sentences) were already your personal opinion.

Rodel Falcasantos January 12 at 6:15pm Report
no hay seguro, baka hype lng. para subi value d real estate. no plans hav been submitted to us yet. bldg pemit is a prwrequisite for a business permit.


Claro este conaton todo aqui...
mucho proceso que necesita hace antes obtene el building permit.
una, complete Working Drawings i.e. Architectural Plans, Structural Plans, Electrical Plans, Sanitary, Mechanical, et.al.
2nd, debe obtene una el Clearance from the Beureu on Fire Protection, etc. etc.

entonces que Robinson Zamboanga que hay entra alli conaton na Ciudad de Zamboanga es un clase de Hyper Maket Solamente y no como grande esttablecemiento gayot.

Still, I don't get where the idea that Robinsons will build a hypermarket instead of a mall come from. His office has not yet received any document from RLC but then he said that it would be just a hypermarket. Hmm.

Yes i also heard from my uncle that it is the leading city in mindanao in the american era..
thats why the japanese chose to invade zamboanga and put their base here. sayang talaga
kung hindi sana napili ang ZC for their invasion the progress of the city didn't stop.. tuloy-tuloy sana un..
kaya na divert raw in to other cities in mindanao like CDO and Davao.. kaya mas progressive ngayon sila kaysa sa City natin.




yes! verdad gat ese!

mi mismo nana ya habla que antes dao que cada vez ta vene mana alto oficiales aqui na Mindanao, na Ciudad de Zamboanga dao gat ta anda para queda.

my Granduncle and grandfather Bulahan who were also among the guerrilas and/or member of the USAFE during the Filipino/American war contra Japon.

^^thanks sir!




de nada mrboy!:)

Anyway, April is few months away. Let's hope for the best...:)

Wait, I'm getting a little confused here. So the architect's reply includes the entire thing below and not just the "bolded" sentences (red)? I thought the succeeding paragraphs (after the "bolded" sentences) were already your personal opinion.



Still, I don't get where the idea that Robinsons will build a hypermarket instead of a mall come from. His office has not yet received any document from RLC but then he said that it would be just a hypermarket. Hmm.





(Escribiendo na Lenguaje Zamboangueño)

Hola Stern!:)
Que tal usted?

ancina ya lang, espera ya lang kita si ya acaba ya construi el Edificio del Robinson y en ese manera hay puede kita sabe si cosa ba gayot el verdad...jendeh ba?:)

y tambien, si en caso tene man tu muchas cuestiones que hasta ahora almariao lang tu siempre, puede man tu favor anda visita con Ar. Rodel Falcasantos alla na su oficina dentro del OBO y dentro mismo del Ayuntamiento. gracias!:)


bueno.....adios anay..jejejeje Adelante Ciudad de Zamboanga Latina!;-)

Anyway, April is few months away. Let's hope for the best...:)

^^
:okay:
yup lets just wait na lang and hope for the best

correct me if I'm wrong sir but is the "baka" in his statement "baka hype lng" means not also sure?

Thanks again for the info..:)

Actually, from my own understanding of the sentence, the word "hype" there doesn't pertain to "hypermarket". It would make more sense if he used the word "hype" there to refers to:

1. exaggerated publicity; hoopla.
2. an ingenious or questionable claim, method, etc., used in advertising, promotion, or publicity to intensify the effect.
3. a swindle, deception, or trick.

I think what he was trying to say is that the entry of Robinsons if just another rumor.. a "hype".. possibly originating from the lot's owner to increase the value of his / her lot OR originating from the lot owners adjacent to the alleged RLC lot to increase their lots' value.

Phoenix petroleum conducts dealers selection for ZamboPen (http://www.zamboangatoday.ph/index.php/news/13-top-stories/2525-phoenix-petroleum-conducts-dealers-selection-for-zambopen.html)
Thursday, 13 January 2011 11:12

In their continued quest to expand operations in Zamboanga Peninsula, Phoenix petroleum, one of the fastest growing oil companies in the country conducted their dealers selection process for the region in one of the local hotels in the city.

Edgar A. Alerta, Assistant Vice President for Sales, in an interview said at least ten dealership applicants coming from different parts of Zamboanga peninsula came to the city for the evaluation process.

The applicants were evaluated based on their financial capability, educational qualification, capability to generate business, experience, business ability, personality and character.

Alerta explained that those who will pass the screening process will already be allowed to franchise Phoenix petroleum in their respective areas. He added that the dealers will also have to undergo a 5-day orientation before commencing actual operations.

Phoenix is scheduled to establish twelve gasoline stations in the entire Zamboanga peninsula by end of 2011.

As of now, they already have fully operational stations in Kabasalan, Zamboanga Sibugay and Suterville in this city. The construction of their stations in Pagadian City, Ipil in Zamboanga Sibugay, Barangays Boalan, and Labuan in this city are nearing completion and expected to be operational in February or March. Five more stations are scheduled to open in Zamboanga city soon.

According to Alerta, Phoenix will have 165 stations by the end of the year in the entire country. 124 of those stations are in Mindanao, 4 in Cebu and the rest are in Luzon.

Phoenix petroleum invested more or less P80 Million for the construction of their storage facilities or bulk depot in Talisayan, this city on April last year. Their first station in the city started operation on the later part of 2009.

Phoenix petroleum is a home grown oil company and the only one based in Mindanao. They started operation in 2005 with their main office in Davao city. They are also publicly listed in the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), second only to Petron.

Phoenix is the provider of aviation fuel for Cebu Pacific Airline. They are also the main supplier of fuel for the city’s fishing industry.

Joining Alerta in the dealers selection were Rebecca Pilar Caterio, Assistant Vice President for Credit and Collection, Peter Paul Tombo, Corporate Legal Officer, Ray S. Inocencio, Commercial Sales Manager for Mindanao, Reggie B. Otos, Commercial Account Manager for Zamboanga Peninsula, and Mariano Claridad, Retail Territory Manager for Zamboanga Peninsula.

Julie's Bakeshop - Foodmart
Opens soon

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Villa Theresa - Divisoria
U/C

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Alliance Church - Canelar (New Building)
U/C

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Small Business Complex near Hyundai Showroom - Putik
U/C

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Ford Showroom- Canelar

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Jollibee - Camins
Under Renovation

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LandCo's Woodridge Subdivision - Tumaga/Lunzuran
U/C

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Filinvest's Villa San Ignacio - Tumaga/Lunzuran
U/C

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whats the meaning of orgullo de mindanao?

It means Pride of Mindanao

Orgullo is pride
De is of