Cheap Homes for Sale?

Documentary in which newly-married presenter Alex Riley finds out what it takes to climb on to the property ladder and discovers that nearly a million properties lie empty.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00d2xqb/

Liverpool prominently featured

It's been a good watch so far, the point he's making in Liverpool is that corpys and agencies are boarding up and knocking down perfectly good houses when people are willing to buy them and live in them!

it was a good programme, particularly as he pointed out that the idea that these areas have failed because of 'market failure' was a lie. He also pointed out how the LA and their agents make their money in this scam!

Saw that a few weeks ago and found it interesting.

didn't realise that the boarded up houses were basically being used as pawns in a grant seeking game.

opened my eyes i have to say, and I live here!

I have actually changed my thinking now and agree with Riley. we should be protecting our buildings. We have lost enough already.

I loved his 'Norfolk & Homes' agency.. (say it fast in a broad northern accent) :lol:

Really good programme ... funny how it takes a comedian to carry out some effective journalism in this Country.

Rather than criticizing BBC 3 Blue Lou, you should be congratulating it on exposing a disgraceful policy endorsed and perpetuated by Warren Bradley. If you want to know what the future holds for those area's, click on the link.

Affordable housing for everyone, my arse!

http://salfordstar.blogspot.com/2006/08/fight-for-salfords-future.html

Rather than criticizing BBC 3 Blue Lou, you should be congratulating it on exposing a disgraceful policy endorsed and perpetuated by Warren Bradley. If you want to know what the future holds for those area's, click on the link.

Affordable housing for everyone, my arse!

http://salfordstar.blogspot.com/2006/08/fight-for-salfords-future.html

Who was criticising BBC 3? ... Blue Lou simply highlighted a programme that people may be interested in. As to the politics behind the policy, there is a strong hand in Central Government in this one too with the council playing for available funding. The whole bullshit of replacing decent housing stock with lower density, less affordable, shared ownership housing is a total disgrace all round.

Affordable housing for everyone, my arse!

http://salfordstar.blogspot.com/2006/08/fight-for-salfords-future.html

Nice link. I am pissed off with this affordable housing tripe. The key to housing for all lays primarily in the private sector - not the public sector. Relax planning, have decent urban planning policies, land ownership laws and the market, not using large wedges of public money, will provide the vast bulk of solution to the need. Public money should be used primarily for infrastructure and little for homes. If infrastructure is uprated the private sector flood in - look at the London Jubilee line extension.

See:
How to get cheaper and larger homes (http://tinyurl.com/4h8fpc)

Saw that a few weeks ago and found it interesting.

didn't realise that the boarded up houses were basically being used as pawns in a grant seeking game.


I am not condoning manipulation, however this preserving small terraced house nostalgia is wearing thin. Those houses are past their sell-by dates - built for another time. It is cheaper to demolish these homes and build from scratch. Old houses are very expensive to bring up to current insulation levels. The insulation levels for new builds are to rise too.

Keeping these expensive to heat old home going, just keeps poorer people in fuel poverty. Common sense has to prevail and new quick to build, using SIP panels, superinsulated spacious homes should be built.

Also, most of these of these old terraced homes look like crap!

Who was criticising BBC 3? ... Blue Lou simply highlighted a programme that people may be interested in. As to the politics behind the policy, there is a strong hand in Central Government in this one too with the council playing for available funding. The whole bullshit of replacing decent housing stock with lower density, less affordable, shared ownership housing is a total disgrace all round.


BBC 3 - Mischief

Open your Eyes. Even you could see Blue Lou's angle. That title wasn't worthy of a 'BBC' programme that highlighted a very important issue for Liverpool and it's residents. It's very easy to criticise the BBC, but sometimes the BBC deserves credit and to be left alone. This is one of those occasions. I'll leave it at that.

Have I missed something? The show is actually called Mischief (http://www.bbc.co.uk/mischief/) jrbs. What have you been putting in that gravy?

Anyway, it was a good watch.

I've not criticised anyone, the thread title is named after the channel it aired on (BBC 3) and the name of the show, 'BBC3 - Mischief'. I then copied and pasted the description of the show from the BBC website and pasted a direct link to where it could be watched online.

I also noticed that Liverpool was prominently featured i.e. the reason I made the post in the Liverpool forum.

Did I do something wrong? :weird:

I've not criticised anyone, the thread title is named after the channel it aired on (BBC 3) and the name of the show, 'BBC3 - Mischief'. I then copied and pasted the description of the show from the BBC website and pasted a direct link to where it could be watched online.

I also noticed that Liverpool was prominently featured i.e. the reason I made the post in the Liverpool forum.

Did I do something wrong? :weird:

No, I think jrb thought you were creating Mischief ... I blame the evil BBC for naming the programme Mischief ... how dare they :)

Open your Eyes. Even you could see Blue Lou's angle. That title wasn't worthy of a 'BBC' programme that highlighted a very important issue for Liverpool and it's residents. It's very easy to criticise the BBC, but sometimes the BBC deserves credit and to be left alone. This is one of those occasions. I'll leave it at that.

Mix up over the name of the programme I think. The programme highlighted a very important set of issues for the country and used Liverpool as an example representative of many others too. Very well put together programme I thought ... the supposedly serious "journalists" should take a leaf out of the book of their lighter hearted friends and learn a trick or two.

I am not condoning manipulation, however this preserving small terraced house nostalgia is wearing thin. Those houses are past their sell-by dates - built for another time. It is cheaper to demolish these homes and build from scratch. Old houses are very expensive to bring up to current insulation levels. The insulation levels for new builds are to rise too.

Keeping these expensive to heat old home going, just keeps poorer people in fuel poverty. Common sense has to prevail and new quick to build, using SIP panels, superinsulated spacious homes should be built.

Also, most of these of these old terraced homes look like crap!

Actually it has been shown time and again that the older stock can be brought up to standard far more cost effectively than modern stock. The programme itself looked at the fact that the Welsh Street houses could be renovated fully and sold on at £65K as a pose to the lower density, noddy housing proposed which will take £80K to buy a 50% stake (i.e. £160K list price and a higher mortgage and a lifetime of rent).

I am certainly not one to stand in the way of imaginative and well thought out modern alternatives and accept that there will be many instances where old stock is beyond redemption, but ill conceived social engineering programmes have been the ruination of whole swathes of Liverpool in the past and have gone hand in hand with the "managed decline" of our City.

I loved his 'Norfolk & Homes' agency.. (say it fast in a broad northern accent) :lol:

:lol: it tok me ages to cotton onto that when I watched the prog!


It is also one of a whole series of shows that exposes mean practices, another one is an expose of elements of the cheap food industry!!!!

Sincere apologies Blue Lou. :hug: I didn't know that was the name of the show. Sometimes you've got to hold your hands up and admit you've made a mistake. :clown:

Ok No problem :). Tell that to Bay City!! :D