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kongutamizhan

January 9th, 2011, 04:53 PM

Little more on spectrum

http://idlyvadai.blogspot.com/2011/01/9-1-11.html

Few excerpts

ஸ்பெக்ட்ரம் என்றதும் எல்லாரும் ராசாவை பற்றியே பேசுகிறோம். ஆனால், இத்தனை கோடிகள் சம்பந்தபட்ட விவகாரத்தில், கருணாநிதியின் அனுமதி இன்றி,அவரது ஆலோசனை இன்றி ராசா சின்னதாக ஒரு கையெழுத்து கூட போட்டுஇருக்க வாய்ப்பே இல்லை

ஒரு பெரும் பங்கு கலைஞர் குடும்பத்திற்கு சென்று இருக்கிறது. அந்த தொகை சென்னையில் உள்ள சில ஆடிட்டர்களிடம் ஒப்படைக்கப்பட்டு, முதலீடுகள் அல்லது தொழில் நிறுவனங்களுக்கு கடன் தரவும் உத்தரவு தரப்பட்டு உள்ளது. இதனால், சில ஆடிட்டர்களின் கையிருப்பு மிக சமீபமாக கன்னாபின்னா என்று எகிறி இருக்கிறது என்று ஒரு செய்தி

மற்றொன்று, ஒரு பெரும் தொகை, இத்தாலியில் இருக்கும் சோனியாவின் சகோதரிகளுக்கு பட்டுவாடா செய்யப்பட்டுஇருப்பதாகவும் சொல்கிறது

இன்று நம் தமிழக முஸ்லிம்களிடையே செல்வாக்கு பெற்று இருக்கும் தவ்ஹீத் ஜமாஅத் தலைவர் திரு.ஜைனுல் ஆபிதீன் ஒரு படி மேலே சென்று,"ஸ்பெக்ட்ரம் போன்று எதனை கோடி யார் ஊழல் செய்தாலும், அதை பற்றி எங்களுக்கு கவலை இல்லை. முஸ்லிம்களுக்கு யார் ஆறு சதவித இட ஒதுக்கீடு தருவார்களோ அவர்களுக்கு நாங்கள் ஓட்டு போடுவோம்" என்று அறிவித்து இருக்கிறார். அவரை போலவே, நாமும் நமக்கு என்ன லாபம் என்று பார்ப்பதுதான் சரி என்று தோன்றுகிறது
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ChennaiIndian

January 10th, 2011, 01:40 AM

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article1073392.ece

Union Health Secretary K. Chandramouli has commended the healthcare delivery system in government hospitals in Tamil Nadu.

For instance, the infant mortality rate and the maternal mortality rate in Tamil Nadu were less than the national average.

The Tamil Nadu practice in this regard deserved to be replicated in other States, he said.

Mr. Chandramouli made a surprise visit to Cuddalore Headquarters' Government Hospital here on Saturday and attended a workshop on the process of getting accreditation for government hospitals.

ChennaiIndian

January 10th, 2011, 01:42 AM

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article1073377.ece

For the first time in recent years, all southern States recorded excess rainfall during the previous year's October-December, popularly called north-east monsoon.

In the north-east monsoon of 2005, parts of the southern region other than coastal Karnataka, north interior Karnataka and Kerala registered excess rainfall.

Though the Meteorological Department has not formally declared withdrawal of the monsoon of 2010, the period of October-December is regarded as north-east monsoon for accounting purposes. The Department has divided the southern States and Union Territory of Puducherry into eight sub-divisions: Coastal Andhra Pradesh, Telangana, Rayalaseema, Tamil Nadu-Puducherry, Coastal Karnataka, North Interior Karnataka, South Interior Karnataka and Kerala.

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kongutamizhan

January 10th, 2011, 05:08 AM

Gnani's O'pakkangal from this week

http://gnani.net.in/?p=602

எத்தனை காலம்தான் ஏமாற்றுவார்…….

புது வருடக் கணக்கைத் தொடங்கிவிட்டார் கலைஞர் கருணாநிதி. இந்த வருடத்தின் முதல் பொய் – “ முதலமைச்சரை விடப் பெருமைக்குரியவர் ஒரு புலவர் என்பதை இன்று நேற்றல்ல என்றைக்குமே நான் மதித்து அந்தத் தமிழுக்குப் பெருமையைத் தரக் கூடியவன்.”

பாடலாசிரியர் வைரமுத்துவின் நூல் வெளியீட்டு விழாவில் கலந்துகொள்வதற்காக சென்னை வரும் பிரதமர் மன்மோகன்சிங்கை விமான நிலையத்தில் வரவேற்கவேண்டிய “முதலமைச்சரின் கடமையை” செய்யாமல் வந்துவிட்டதாக கருணாநிதி பேசியிருக்கிறார். இது உண்மையென்றால் அடுத்த நாள் தமிழக அரசு சார்பில் முதல்வர் பிரதமரை சந்திக்கச் செல்லாதது ஏன் என்று அளித்த விளக்க அறிக்கையிலும் இதையேதானே சொல்ல வேண்டும் ? அதில் “முன்கூட்டியே ஒப்புக் கொண்ட நிகழ்ச்சிக்கு செல்லவேண்டியதாயிற்று. அங்கே ஒளிவிளக்குகளால் கண்ணில் நீர் கசிந்தது. மருத்துவரை சந்தித்துவிட்டு பின்னர்தான் பிரதமரைக் காண செல்ல முடிந்தது” என்று விளக்கியிருக்கிறார்கள். “பிரதமரை வரவேற்பதை விட புலவரை கௌரவிப்பதே முதன்மையானது என்று முதலமைச்சர் கருதியதால் செல்லவில்லை” என்று தமிழக அரசு அறிக்கையிலும் சொல்ல வேண்டியதுதானே?

கிழிந்து கந்தலாகிக் கொண்டிருக்கும் காங்கிரஸ்-தி.மு.க கூட்டணியில் ‘ கெஞ்சினால் மிஞ்சுவது, மிஞ்சினால் கெஞ்சுவது’ என்ற உத்தியை எப்போதும் பிரயோகித்துவரும் கருணாநிதி இப்போதும் அதே வேலையைச் செய்திருக்கிறார். அவ்வளவுதான். காங்கிரசுடன் உறவு எப்படியிருக்கிறது என்று நிருபர்கள் கேட்டபோது, ”எனக்கும் உங்களுக்கும் (பத்திரிகையாளர்களுக்கும்) உள்ள அளவு இருக்கிறது “ என்று பதில் சொல்கிறார் கருணாநிதி. அவருக்கும் பத்திரிகையாளர்களுக்கும் உள்ள உறவு எப்படி இருக்கிறது ? சங்கடமான கேள்விகளைத் தப்பித் தவறி ஏதேனும் ஒரு நிருபர் கேட்டால், “ யார்யா நீ ?”, “ உனக்கு என்ன அதைப் பத்தி ?”, “ உங்க வீட்டுலயா ரெய்டு நடந்துது ?” என்று எரிந்து விழும் உறவுதான் அவருடையது. தானே பதில் சொல்ல விரும்பும் கேள்விகளைக் கேட்பதற்கென்றே நிருபர்களில் ஒரு கோஷ்டியை தயார் செய்து வைத்திருப்பது அவரது உறவின் மறுபக்கம். இதே அணுகுமுறைதான் காங்கிரசுடனும் உள்ளது. ரெய்டு, ஸ்பெக்ட்ரம் போன்ற சங்கடமான பிரச்சினைகளில் தன் எரிச்சலைக் காட்ட பிரதமரைப் புறக்கணிப்பது; தான் விரும்பும் அறிக்கைகளை வெளியிட காங்கிரசுக்குள்ளே ஒரு தி.மு.க காங்கிரஸ் பிரிவை வைத்த்திருப்பது. இவைதான் அவரது கூட்டணி அணுகுமுறை.

‘புலவர்களை எப்போதும் மதிக்கும் ‘மன்னன்’ நான் என்று கருணாநிதி சொல்லியிருப்பது இன்னொரு பொய். ஜால்ரா அடிக்கும் புலவர்களை மதிப்பது என்று அதை திருத்தி வாசிக்க வேண்டும். வைரமுத்து தன் ஜால்ராவை நிறுத்தினால், அடுத்த நிமிடமே வேண்டாத புலவராகிவிடுவார் என்பது இருவர் மனசாட்சிக்கும் தெரியும். வாலி ஜால்ராவை நிறுத்தின அடுத்த நொடியில் ஆரிய நச்சுப் பாம்பாகிவிடுவார் என்பதும் அவருக்குத் தெரியும்.

ஓரிரு வாரங்கள் முன்புதான் சாகித்ய அகாதமி பரிசு அறிவிக்கப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. பரிசு பெறும் நாஞ்சில் நாடனைப் பாராட்டி கருணாநிதியிடமிருந்து ஒரு அறிக்கை உண்டா? கேரளத்தில் இப்படிப்பட்ட பரிசுகள் அறிவிக்கப்பட்டால், உடனே முதலமைச்சர் எழுத்தாளர் வீடு தேடிப் போய் பாராட்டுகிறார். இங்கே “ யாருய்யா அவன் நாஞ்சில் நாடன் ? யாரு ஆளு ? கனி(மொழி) கூப்பிட்டா சங்கமத்துக்கு வரமாட்டேங்கறானாமே?” என்றுதான் இங்கே அரண்மனை உரையாடல்கள் நிகழும் வாய்ப்பிருக்கிறது. நாஞ்சில்நாடன் கிண்டலாகச் சொல்வது போல, பரிசு பெறும் எழுத்தாளன் தானே ஒரு மஞ்சள் சால்வையும் சிவப்பு சால்வையும் வாங்கிக் கொண்டு தலைமைச் செயலகத்துக்குப் போய் பல மணி நேரம் காத்திருந்து ஒரு சால்வையைப் போர்த்தி இன்னொன்றைப் போர்த்தவைத்து, தன் செலவில் படமும் எடுத்து பத்திரிகைகளுக்கு தரவேண்டிய நிலை.

கடந்த ஐம்பது ஆண்டுகளில் சாகித்ய அகாதமி ஏராளமான தமிழ்ப் படைப்புகளை பிற இந்திய மொழிகளிலும் பிற மொழிப் படைப்புகளை தமிழிலும் வெளியிட்டிருக்கிறது. இது போல ஒரே ஒரு ஆக்கப்பூர்வமான வேலையையாவது தமிழக அரசு செய்ததுண்டா? எழுத்தாளர் படைப்புகளை நாட்டுடைமையாக்குகிறேன் என்ற பெயரில் தகுதியானவர்களுடன் சேர்த்து கும்பலோடு கோவிந்தாவாக எந்தத் தகுதியும் இல்லாத வேண்டப்பட்டவர்களின் படைப்புகளுக்குக் காசு கொடுத்ததுதான் ஒரே சேவை. இயல் இசை நாடக மன்றத்தின் கலைமாமணி விருதுகளை 25 ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் ரேட்டுக்கு விற்றுக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார்கள். எழுத்தாளர் பிரபஞ்சன் வாடகைக்குக் குடியிருக்கும் அரசுக் குடியிருப்பு ஒழுகுகிறது. வேறு வீடு மாற்றிக் கொடுங்கள் என்று மனு போட்டு அலுத்துப் போய்விட்டார் என்று வேதனையுடன் நாஞ்சில் நாடன் ஒரு மேடையில் குறிப்பிட்டார்.

சாகித்ய அகாதமியின் தென் மண்டல அலுவலகம் – நான்கு தென் மாநிலங்களுக்குமானது, சென்னையில்தான் பல காலம் இயங்கி வந்தது. தங்களுக்கென்று தனியே நிலம் ஒதுக்கித்தரும்படி தமிழக அரசைக் கேட்டது சாகிதய அகாதமி. புலவர்களை மதிக்கும் அரசு, முரசுக்கட்டிலில் புலவரோடு சேர்த்துக் கோப்புகளையும் தாலாட்டு பாடித் தூங்க வைத்துக் கொண்டிருந்த வேளையில், கர்நாடக அரசு முந்திக் கொண்டது. கன்ண்ட படைப்பாளிகளும் அரசும் கை கோர்த்து நின்றதால், தென் மண்டல அலுவலகமே அங்கே போய்விட்டது. இங்கே எஞ்சியது சாகித்ய அகாடமியின் சென்னை அலுவலகம் எனப்படும் விற்பனை நிலையம்தான். அதற்கும் புலவர்களை மதிக்கும் அரசில் ஆபத்து வந்துவிட்டது. தரமணி உலகத் தமிழாராய்ச்சி நிறுவன வளாகத்தில் ஒதுக்கிய இடத்தை காலி செய்யச் சொல்கிறது தமிழக அரசு. சாகித்ய அகாதமிக்கு சென்னையில் அலுவலகம் கூட இல்லாமல் போய்விடும் நிலை.

kongutamizhan

January 10th, 2011, 05:09 AM

Next he talks about freebies on the same article.

http://gnani.net.in/?p=602

இலவசங்களை வழங்குவதையே அரசுக் கொள்கையாக வைத்திருக்கும் முதலமைச்சர் இலவசமாக இப்படி வழங்கும் பொய்களுக்கு நாம் தரும் விலை மிகப் பெரியது.

ஏழைகள் இருக்கும்வரை இலவசங்கள் தன் ஆட்சியில் தொடரும் என்று மிகுந்த பெருமிதத்துடன் அறிவித்திருக்கிறார் கருணாநிதி. எவ்வளவு காலத்துக்கு ஏழைகள் ஏழைகளாகவே இருப்பார்கள் ? கனிமொழியின் மகன் ஆதித்தன் அரசுக் கட்டிலில் அமரும்வரையா? அதற்கு அப்புறமுமா? தமிழ்நாட்டில் மொத்தம் ஆறு கோடி 65 லட்சம் மக்கள் இருக்கிறார்கள். வறுமைக் கோட்டுக்கு கீழே உள்ளவர்களுக்கு இலவச வேட்டி செல்ல அளிக்கப்படுகிறது. அதன் எண்ணிக்கை எவ்வளவு தெரியுமா? மக்கள் தொகையில் ஏறத்தாழ சரி பாதி. மூன்று கோடி 11 லட்சத்து 23 ஆயிரம் ! ஐந்து முறை கருணாநிதி முதலமைச்சராக இருந்து சாதித்தது என்ன ? தமிழர்களில் சரி பாதி பேரை வறுமைக் கோட்டுக்குக் கீழேயே வைத்திருப்பதுதானா ?

சுமார் 15 நாட்களுக்கு முன்பு புதுக்கோட்டை மாவட்டம் கொத்தமங்கலம் கிராமத்தில் இலவச டி.வி பெட்டி வழங்கும் நிகழ்ச்சி நடைபெற்றது. மாவட்ட தி.மு.க செயலாளர் தலைமையேற்று டி.வி.பெட்டிகளை வழங்கிக் கொண்டிருந்தார். அரசு விழாவில் ஏன் கட்சியின் மாவ்ட்ட செயலாளர் பெட்டிகளை வழங்குகிறார் என்றெல்லாம் நாம் அசட்டுத்தனமாகக் கேட்கப்போவதில்லை. அங்கே பெட்டி வாங்க வந்த விவசாயி விஜயகுமார் என்பவர் பெட்டியை வாங்கிக் கொண்டு திருப்பி அளித்துவிட்டு கூடவே ஒரு கடிதத்தையும் கொடுத்தார். அந்தக் கடிதம் சாதாரணக் கடிதமல்ல. வர்லாற்றில் இடம் பெற வேண்டிய கடிதம்.

”மனிதனுக்கு டி.வி. என்பது பொழுதுபோக்கு சாதனம்தான். ஆனால் அதைவிட முக்கியமானது உணவு, உடை, உறைவிடம். தமிழகத்தில் மொத்தம் 88 துறைகள் இருக்கின்றன. இவை தன்னிறைவு அடைந்து விட்டனவா? குறிப்பாக, விவசாயிகளைப் பாதிக்கும் மின்சாரத் துறை தன்னிறைவு அடைந்து விட்டதா? துறைகள் எல்லாம் தன்னிறைவு அடைந்த பிறகு மிதமிஞ்சிய பணத்தில் இந்த டி.வி.யை வழங்கியிருந்தால் மகிழ்ச்சியாக இருந்திருக்கும். இதற்கு மட்டும் எங்கிருந்து நிதி வந்தது?இந்தியாவின் முதுகெலும்பான விவசாயிகள்
தமிழகத்தில் அதிகம் வசிக்கிறார்கள். டி.வி. வழங்கும் பணத்தை வைத்து விவசாயிகளுக்குத் தேவையான மின்சாரத்தைக் கொடுத்திருக்கலாம்.

தமிழகத்திலேயே மிகவும் பின்தங்கிய மாவட்டத்தைக் கண்டறிந்து போதுமான மின்சாரத்தை தடையின்றிக் கொடுத்து அந்த ஒரு மாவட்டத்தையாவது தன்னிறைவு அடையச் செய்திருக்கலாம். இலவசம் என்பது எங்களுக்கு வேண்டாம். தரமான மருத்துவம், கல்வி, மும்முனை மின்சாரம் மற்றும் வேலை வாய்ப்புகளை வழங்கினாலே போதும். அதை வைத்து நாங்களே சம்பாதித்து டி.வி.முதல் கார் வரை அனைத்தையும் வாங்கிக் கொள்வோம். எங்களுக்கு என்ன தேவையோ அதை நாங்களே பூர்த்தி செய்து தன்னிறைவு அடைந்து விடுவோம்.

விலைவாசி உயர்வு, எரிபொருள் விலை உயர்வு, குடிநீர் பற்றாக்குறை, லஞ்சம், ஊழல் என்று ஆயிரக்கணக்கான குறைகள் இருக்கும்போது ஒரு நடமாடும் பிணமாக நான் எப்படி டி.வி. பார்க்க முடியும்? எனவே எனக்கு இந்த டி.வி. வேண்டாம். முதல்வர் கருணாநிதி மீது எனக்கு மிகுந்த மதிப்பும், மரியாதையும், அன்பும் உள்ளது. எனவே,இந்த டி.வி.யை அவருக்கே அன்பளிப்பாகக் கொடுக்க இந்த சந்தர்ப்பத்தைப் பயன்படுத்திக் கொள்கிறேன்.அவர் இதை ஏற்றுக் கொள்ளாவிட்டால் என் மனம் மேலும் வேதனைப்படும். அரசு மற்றும் அதிகாரிகள் தங்கள் கடமைகளை சரியாகச் செய்தாலே போதும். இந்தியா வல்லரசாகிவிடும்’ என்று அந்தக் கடிதத்தில் விஜயகுமார் சொல்லியிருக்கிறார்.

ஒரு பத்திரிகைக்கு அளித்த பேட்டியில் அவர் மேலும் சொல்கிறார் : “சாராயத்தை குடிச்சுட்டு, ஒரு ரூபாய் அரிசியை தின்னுட்டு உழைக்கும் வர்க்கம் சோம்பேறியாகிக் கிட்டிருக்கு.ரொம்ப சீப்பா கணக்குப் போட்டாலும் ஒரு டி.வி. ஆயிரம் ரூபாய்னு வச்சிக்குங்க. தமிழ்நாட்டில் ரெண்டு கோடி குடும்ப அட்டைக்கும் டி.வி. கொடுத்தால் இருபது லட்சம் கோடி செலவாகும்.இதை வைத்து 88 துறைகளையும் தன்னிறைவு அடையச் செய்தாலே போதுமே.”

விஜயகுமாரின் கடிதம் கடிதம் அல்ல. செருப்பு. அல்லற்பட்டு ஆற்றாது அழும் ஒருவர் கண்ணீர் விடாமல் ரௌத்ரம் பழகி அரசுக்குக் கொடுத்த செருப்படி.

கலைஞர் அவர்களே, நீங்கள் முதல்வராக இருக்கும் காலம் வரையில் “நல்லது செய்தல் ஆற்றீராயினும் அல்லது செய்தல் ஓம்புமின்”. குறைந்தபட்சம் ‘நான் ஒரு கம்யூனிஸ்ட்’, ‘நான் ஏழைகளுக்காகவே வாழ்கிறேன்’, ‘புலவர்களை மதிக்கும் மன்னன்’ மாதிரி பொய்களைச் சொல்லாமல், இருக்கும் காலம் வரை இருந்துவிட்டுப் போங்கள். எங்கள் எரிச்சலாவது குறையும்.

Leo_r

January 10th, 2011, 09:34 AM

20 Lakh Crores ? TN People love those huge figures..(Kushbu,JJ,Nayanthara,Namitha) .@ Rs 2500 a piece, the expenditure will be Rs 5000 Crores.

Mad 4 Madras

January 10th, 2011, 09:41 AM

"ரொம்ப சீப்பா கணக்குப் போட்டாலும் ஒரு டி.வி. ஆயிரம் ரூபாய்னு வச்சிக்குங்க. தமிழ்நாட்டில் ரெண்டு கோடி குடும்ப அட்டைக்கும் டி.வி. கொடுத்தால் இருபது லட்சம் கோடி செலவாகும்”

கணக்கு உதைக்குதே ! 2000 கோடி தான வரும். இப்படி தான் அரசியல்வாதிங்க கணக்கு செய்வானுங்க போல...

kongutamizhan

January 10th, 2011, 04:18 PM

20 Lakh Crores ? TN People love those huge figures..(Kushbu,JJ,Nayanthara,Namitha) .@ Rs 2500 a piece, the expenditure will be Rs 5000 Crores.

You folks can look at it this way too.

In 43 years of kazhaga kanmanigal rule, this is the basic state of people at the bottom of social hierarchy. They can't even get basic mathematics to common man like they do to TASMAC :)

OC TV kuduthu, Sun TV / Kalaigner TV cable edukka vecha Namitha, Nayanthara-va pidikkama pinna enna Einstien-m, Ramanujamum-a makkalukku pidikkum? Ippa ippa enakkaE 9tharavum, Nami-um illatha TV program parka mudiyalaina parthukongalaen :cheers:

bonoslack7

January 10th, 2011, 06:36 PM

http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/western-leader/4525855/Tamil-advocate-earns-a-medal

ChennaiIndian

January 11th, 2011, 01:34 AM

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/TN-first-state-to-develop-HIV-stigma-index/articleshow/7256484.cms

CHENNAI: Sreelatha S (42) was good at her work. But she was asked to quit after people at her workplace learnt about her HIV-positive status six months ago.

"Suddenly people started feeling uncomfortable around me. I was asked to quit," she says. Experiences of people like Sreelatha will go into the making of a stigma index' which Tamil Nadu hopes to use for fighting discrimination. The state, which has 1.5 lakh people living with HIV, will be the first in the country to have such an index.

HIV positive people will interview victims of stigma so that they open up and discuss their experiences. The accounts of thousands of such people would go into developing the index which will eventually reflect the levels and spread of discrimination.

"The research outcome would help the government and communities strategise programmes to reduce stigma and discrimination," said Vishwanath Koliwad, secretary veneral of the Family Planning Association of India, the implementing agency. The project launched on Friday is funded by the Department for International Development. The family planning body and some other designated organisations would set up a Project Advisory Committee to set goals and review the progress of the project.

...

ChennaiIndian

January 11th, 2011, 01:38 AM

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/lca-takes-skies-land-tn-soon-743

Jan. 10: It was the much awaited moment under the sun for defence scientists and engineers as the ‘Made in India’ supersonic combat jet ‘Tejas’ blazed the skies over this tech hub to mark an entry into the Indian Air Force (IAF)’s fleet on Monday.
This multi-role fourth generation fighter - Tejas Mark 1 - the fruition of two-and-half decades of design and production, ranks almost on par with the Swedish JAS-39 Gripen NG, according to Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal P V Naik.
The IAF will initially induct 40 of these fighters, each costing about Rs 200 crores, and deploy them at Sulur, Tamil Nadu. It was originally designed to replace the ageing MIG-21 fleet, but has been equipped with several advanced elements: avionics, radar, Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles and higher endurance in flight.

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ChennaiIndian

January 11th, 2011, 01:38 AM

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/jallikattu-loses-flavour-741

Jan. 10: The Supreme Court’s guidelines on conducting jallikattu in Tamil Nadu have played spoilsport to such an extent that the number of bulls taking part in the event has come down drastically this year putting the animal welfare board and sports enthusiasts at loggerheads.
The seven-page application issued by the animal welfare board of India for the use of bulls in jallikattu is in English. The board has asked for pre-event and post-event fitness certificates of animals from veterinarians, certificate of approval from it for transporting them to the venue and certificate from the animal husbandary department that performance enhancement drugs have not been administered to animals.

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vs007

January 11th, 2011, 03:36 AM

The IAF will initially induct 40 of these fighters, each costing about Rs 200 crores, and deploy them at Sulur, Tamil Nadu.
Uh Oh! They should adequately test them elsewhere before bringing into TN.

kongutamizhan

January 11th, 2011, 04:25 AM

^^ :dunno:

doccbe

January 11th, 2011, 06:07 AM

Uh Oh! They should adequately test them elsewhere before bringing into TN.

I dont understand...... :nuts:

Alphastallion

January 11th, 2011, 06:28 AM

Uh Oh! They should adequately test them elsewhere before bringing into TN.
pls refer the following blog by shiv aroor..lca s were tested and they were given ioc by IAF.
IT Is based in sulur for the easy maintenance which will come when any new developed vehicle were into the hands of customer.
http://livefist.blogspot.com/

Brand coimbatore

January 11th, 2011, 03:35 PM

I work in HAL, and FYI it is going to take some(may be a year or so) time before the final induction takes place, and in the mean time all the required tests will be carried out in bangalore itself.
Also stationing a squadron in sulur early next yr or by june 2011 as reported by some news earlier may not at all be possible.
Wot we get out by stationing in sulur would be an Aircraft operating centre by ADA and hopefully a maintenance unit by HAL near sulur, coimbatore

spidermanusa

January 11th, 2011, 05:13 PM

Anniyan

January 11th, 2011, 06:07 PM

Has anyone read the novel "Kaval Kotam" which seems to be the inspiration for VasanthaBalan's next film "Aravaan"?

Whats the main theme of the novel?

kongutamizhan

January 11th, 2011, 06:37 PM

^^I haven't read it, but here is a detailed review that will give you an insight of what's in the novel

http://www.keetru.com/literature/review/melanmai.php

PS. S.Ramakrishnan, Author Venkatesan's close friend and fellow-writer called this novel a 1000 page absurdity though. And commies are dissappointed with their fellow leftist's novel too. Just trying to point out the other side.

Brand coimbatore

January 12th, 2011, 03:13 AM

A special congrats and thanks to you on getting the IOC for the LCA. I know the ADA did most of the work but HAL gets kudos too. Keep up the good work.

Thanks!

No actually ARDC of HAL was also totally involved in the project (design) but ADA took the credit of the full design and it looked like only production was done at HAL. In could be better put as the LCA was jointly produced by HAL and ADA.

Sampathkumar

January 12th, 2011, 06:15 AM

டூவீலரில் 3 ஜி கருவி மூலம் 80 சத விபத்துகளை குறைக்கலாம்: மாணவரின் அரிய கண்டுபிடிப்பு
விருதுநகர்: விருதுநகரில் நடந்த, 37வது மாநில அளவிலான ஜவகர்லால் நேரு அறிவியல் கண்காட்சியில் இடம் பெற்ற மானாமதுரை மாணவர் மணிகண்டனின் புதிய கண்டுபிடிப்பான "3 ஜி' வாகன கட்டுப்பாட்டு கருவியால், 80 சதவீத விபத்துகளை குறைக்க முடியும்.

உலகில், ஆண்டுக்கு 12 லட்சம் பேர் சாலை விபத்துகளில் உயிரிழக்கின்றனர். டூவீலர்களால் 75 சதவீத விபத்துகள் அதிகரித்துள்ளன. இதை கட்டுப்படுத்தும் விதமாக, சிவகங்கை மாவட்டம், மானாமதுரை ஓ.வி.சி., மெட்ரிக் பள்ளி மாணவர் வி.ஆர். மணிகண்டன், ஜி.எஸ்.எம்., தொழில்நுட்பத்திலான கருவி மூலம், "3 ஜி' வாகன கட்டுப்பாட்டு கருவியை கண்டுபிடித்துள்ளார். ஆர்.டி.ஓ., அலுவலகத்தில் டூவீலரை பதிவு செய்யும் போது, அதில் இந்த டிவைஸ் பொருத்தலாம். இதன் விலை 2,200 ரூபாய். இதை பொருத்திய பின், இதற்காக தனி எண் தரப்படும்.வாகனம் திருடு போனால் அதற்குரிய எண்ணை, மொபைல் போன் மூலம் அழைத்தால் வாகனம் நின்று விடும். அதிலிருந்து எச்சரிக்கை ஒலி எழும்பும். வாகனம் இருக்கும் இடத்தை எஸ்.எம்.எஸ்., மூலம் தெரிவிக்கும். மேலும், "ஹெல்மெட்' அணிந்த பின்பே வாகனத்தை இயக்க முடியும். வாகனம் விபத்துக்குள்ளாகும் போது, சம்பந்தப்பட்ட மொபைல் எண்ணிற்கு இந்த இடத்தில் வாகனம் விபத்துக்குள்ளாகியுள்ளது என எஸ்.எம்.எஸ்., தரும்.சைடு ஸ்டாண்ட் போட்டிருக்கும் போது, டூவீலரை இயக்க முடியாது. குறிப்பிட்ட இடங்களில் இத்தனை கிலோ மீட்டர் வேகத்தில் செல்ல வேண்டும் என்பதை கண்டுபிடிக்கும். "பிரேக் ஷூ' தேய்ந்து விட்டால், வாகன ஓட்டிகளுக்கு எச்சரிக்கை செய்யும்.

இரவு நேரங்களில் மட்டுமே முகப்பு விளக்குகள் எரியும். பகலில் "ஆன்' செய்தாலும் எரியாது. "எப்.சி.' எடுக்க வேண்டிய தேதியை, அறிவுறுத்தும். திருட்டு வாகனங்களோ, ரோடுகளில் தவறு செய்யும் வாகனங்கள் 200 மீட்டரில் வரும் போதே, நெடுஞ்சாலை கண்காணிப்பு போலீசாருக்கு தகவல் தெரிவிக்கும். வாகன "பயோ டேட்டா' வழங்கும் விதமாக "3 ஜி' கட்டுப்பாட்டு கருவியை கண்டுபிடித்துள்ள மணிகண்டனுக்கு, விருதுநகரில் நடந்த மாநில அறிவியல் கண்காட்சியில் முதல் பரிசு வழங்கப்பட்டது.

இதுகுறித்து மணிகண்டன் கூறியதாவது: நான் கண்டுபிடித்துள்ள கருவிகளை டூவீலரில் பொருத்தும் போது, ஹெல்மெட் அணியாமல் ஏற்படும் பலியை 95 சதவீதம், விபத்து நடந்த இடத்தை தெரிவிப்பதன் மூலம் பலியை 75 சதவீதம், வேக கட்டுப்பாடு மூலம் 85 சதவீதம், பிரேக் ஷூ, இண்டிகேட்டர், முகப்பு விளக்கு கட்டுப்பாடு, சைடு ஸ்டாண்டு ஆகியவற்றால் ஏற்படும் விபத்துகளை 95 சதவீதம் குறைக்க முடியும். டூவீலர்களால் ஏற்படும் விபத்துகளில் 80 சதவீதத்தை கட்டுப்படுத்த முடியும். இதற்கான தொகை மிகக் குறைவு தான். ஆர்.டி.ஓ., அலுவலகங்களில் வாகனங்களுக்கு, "ஸ்மார்ட் கார்டு' வழங்குவதற்கு பதிலாக ஜி.எஸ்.எம்., கருவிகளை பயன்படுத்தலாம்.இவ்வாறு மணிகண்டன் கூறினார்.

Manikandan - Manamadurai school student invented an intelligent device to prevent accidents and many more functions..

^^^^

dhandapanik

January 13th, 2011, 05:35 AM

Marana Utham - Photo Courtesy: Dinamalar
http://img.dinamalar.com/data/uploads/WR_587051.jpeg

Sampathkumar

January 13th, 2011, 06:32 AM

தமிழர் திருநாள் வாழ்த்துக்கள்.

அவ்வப்போதாவது தமிழ்ர் பாரம்பரிய உடையான வேட்டி அணியலாம்.

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/4755/13012011151008001.jpg (http://img818.imageshack.us/i/13012011151008001.jpg/)

Anniyan

January 13th, 2011, 03:29 PM

TShyam

January 13th, 2011, 06:57 PM

பொங்கல்: கேரளத்தில் 5 மாவட்டங்களுக்கு அரசு விடுமுறை

திருவனந்தபுரம், ஜன. 12: தமிழர் திருநாளாம் பொங்கல் பண்டிகையை முன்னிட்டு கேரளத்தில் 5 மாவட்டங்களுக்கு அரசு விடுமுறை அறிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. தமிழக முதல்வர் கருணாநிதியின் கோரிக்கையை ஏற்று, தமிழக எல்லையில் உள்ள கேரள மாவட்டங்களுக்கு ஜனவரி 15-ம் தேதி விடுமுறை அளிக்க மாநில அரசு முடிவு செய்துள்ளது என்று கேரள முதல்வர் வி.எஸ். அச்சுதானந்தன், திருவனந்தபுரத்தில் புதன்கிழமை தெரிவித்தார். இதன்படி திருவனந்தபுரம், பாலக்காடு, பத்தனம்திட்டா, இடுக்கி, வயநாடு ஆகிய மாவட்டங்களுக்கு விடுமுறை அளிக்கப்படுகிறது. இங்கு தமிழர்கள் அதிகம் வசிக்கின்றனர். Source (http://www.dinamani.com/edition/Story.aspx?SectionName=India&artid=360735&SectionID=130&MainSectionID=130&SEO=&Title=%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8A%E0%AE%99%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D:%20%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%B3%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D%205%20%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%99%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%81%20%E0%AE%85%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%81%20%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%88)

Translation: Tamilnadu declares holiday every year for Onam in the districts bordering Kerala and in Chennai. Kerala has reciprocated this gesture by declaring holiday for Pongal in the districts of Trivandrum, Palakkad, Pathanamthitta, Idukki, and Wayanad from this year onwards following a request made by TN CM.

chennaidesi

January 13th, 2011, 07:47 PM

Good gesture by Kerala Govt.
Liquor sales will shoot up in these districts since they have one more holiday.

ChennaiIndian

January 14th, 2011, 12:05 AM

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article1090337.ece

The revenue from Commercial Taxes in the State is all set to cross the Rs.30,000-crore mark in the current year, said S.N.M. Ubayadullah, Commercial Taxes Minister, on Thursday.

Inaugurating a Large Taxpayers' Unit (LTU) of Commercial Taxes Department, he told The-Hindu that in the last five years, the commercial taxes collection had increased from Rs.16,616 crore and it was set to cross the Rs.30,000-crore mark.

With the inclusion of VAT compensation of Rs.3,040 crore and CST Rs.2,400 crore, it would be well over Rs.35,400 crore.

According to the Minister, the monthly collection was around Rs.2,500 crore and it represented a 25.94 per cent growth over the corresponding period last year.

Up to December 2010, the department collected Rs.22,890 crore. It was decided to form an LTU to provide better services to dealers under one roof, as they contributed 60 per cent of the State's tax receipt.

“Income Tax LTU gave us the inspiration to form this LTU. Nearly 170 dealers, who have a taxable turnover of more than Rs.200 crore, would be provided service by 43 dedicated officers. It would be headed by S. Kumaraguruparan, Commercial Tax Joint Commissioner.

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Sampathkumar

January 14th, 2011, 05:45 AM

Good gesture by Kerala Govt.
Liquor sales will shoot up in these districts since they have one more holiday.

This was delcared after TN CM Wrote a letter requesting to grant leave. For onam leave was declared 4 yrs back in TN.
And there was few protest and agitation demanding leave in border districts. Then only they declared leave.

They didnt declare leave generously like tamil nadu govt

Sampathkumar

January 14th, 2011, 05:49 AM

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Leo_r

January 14th, 2011, 09:22 AM

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article1090337.ece

With the inclusion of VAT compensation of Rs.3,040 crore and CST Rs.2,400 crore, it would be well over Rs.35,400 crore.
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So Money circulation in Tamil Nadu is quite impressive and people are confident and enjoying themselves by spending large sum. Surprise!,this is happening in a very thrifty society.

But remove Rs 1 from any of the subsidies, they will be up in a flash protest.

kannan infratech

January 14th, 2011, 02:34 PM

If revenue from VAT (Sales Tax) and TASMAC are removed, TN will collapse.

The Sales Tax was introduced as a very short term temporary measure by Rajaji in Madras Presidency to tide over expenses during some famine.

After that each successive Govt has increased the same to the present level. All other states followed suit.

TN is a pioneer in this.

TASMAC Revenue - The single most remarkable achievement by Kazhagams.

satchitananda

January 14th, 2011, 03:43 PM

TASMAC Revenue - The single most remarkable achievement by Kazhagams.

No wonder the moral fibre of the country is standing on the weakened legs of drunkards.

If they avoid populist measures like Free.. Re1 stuff, then the government can avoid wasteful spending. In US, if few such provisions are given, its called Pork, but what we have in TN is the world's biggest Pig farm/porkery.

vs007

January 14th, 2011, 04:15 PM

No wonder the moral fibre of the country is standing on the weakened legs of drunkards.

If they avoid populist measures like Free.. Re1 stuff, then the government can avoid wasteful spending. In US, if few such provisions are given, its called Pork, but what we have in TN is the world's biggest Pig farm/porkery.
The subsidized food also keeps many from breaking the law.

satchitananda

January 14th, 2011, 09:46 PM

The subsidized food also keeps many from breaking the law.

If the above is true, then the problem should be understood as much more bigger. Also will be an acknowledgement that the failure has been a systemic one and the success shown is only a facade.

kongutamizhan

January 15th, 2011, 03:08 AM

^^Well said. The development that DMK folks have been talking about is fabricated if freebies is what keeping people from breaking the law. Thanks to the DMK supporter of SSC for such open statement :)

kongutamizhan

January 15th, 2011, 03:09 AM

Thuglak 41st Anniversary function. Here is the excerpts with Cho and Gurumurthy speech

http://idlyvadai.blogspot.com/2011/01/41.html

vs007

January 15th, 2011, 03:48 AM

Thuglak 41st Anniversary function. Here is the excerpts with Cho and Gurumurthy speech

http://idlyvadai.blogspot.com/2011/01/41.html

She is an able administrator and I had hopes during her second term until she fired the IT secretary.
She proved once again to be one arrogant mercurial lady whose only shtick is vendetta and her blind anger does nothing to improve or have any vision for the state.

kongutamizhan

January 15th, 2011, 04:09 AM

^^ Am I missing anything? Would be glad to hear from you the kind of vision DMK camp have.

vs007

January 15th, 2011, 04:29 AM

^^ Am I missing anything? Would be glad to hear from you the kind of vision DMK camp have.

We have seen the airport project taking off, the new assemble, cleanup of Marina, new Library, and ofcourse Dayanidhi Maran during IT ministry was instrumental in bringing Nokia,Motorola, FLextronics, Dell putting Chennai on hardware map.

As I said IT secretary Harinarain under Jaya was doing great job doing marketing for Chennai in her absence or vision and when he was getting the traction and credit, she unceremoniously dumped him and replaced him with some bookish PhD kinda guy who did nothing to continue the momentum.

Atleast here we know Stalin is interested in improving Chennai and TN. Ofcourse if Alagiri or Ramadoss comes up as CM, then I would rather prefer Jaya. :)

PS: I am not on any of the *DMK* side, only on the side of the TN's progress. If Congress,CPI takes to that path, I would support them too.

kongutamizhan

January 15th, 2011, 04:43 AM

^^ Few projects doesn't make a vision. If that's the case Ford and Hyundai were finalized by Jaya without which the Sriperumbudur - oragadam corridor would have been a distant dream. (I don't consider it as her vision though, however rainwater harvesting was a visionary project).

By the way Flextronics opened shop during Jaya too and expanded now:) Not that I want to rise and walk her flag. Just setting facts straight:)

Whatever it's, DMK doesn't deserve another term for what they did to TamilNAdu the past 5 years.

vs007

January 15th, 2011, 04:50 AM

Whatever it's, DMK doesn't deserve another term for what they did to TamilNAdu the past 5 years.
Precisely the opposite, whatever they did is the reason why they should get the post, I mean Stalin. I expressed before that I would choose Jaya if ALagari creeps in.

^^ Few projects doesn't make a vision. If that's the case Ford and Hyundai were finalized by Jaya without which the Sriperumbudur - oragadam corridor would have been a distant dream. (I don't consider it as her vision though, however rainwater harvesting was a visionary project).
Yes, Ford goes to her credit and the failed execution of IT corridor ( awarding to an unknown malaysian company???)
In 2000 IT boom CBE and Pune were the next IT hotspot and Jaya announced Tidel Park with NO execution or movement and went into deep hibernation and land prices skyrocketed so much that it became financially untenable and flat prices now compare to BLR, in the meantime we know where Pune went and now we are happy to be content with compared to Lucknow.
Screwing up CBE's chances and firing Harinarain(the only performing IT secretary) are the main reason she should be avoided.

kongutamizhan

January 15th, 2011, 05:01 AM

Precisely the opposite, whatever they did is the reason why they should get the post, I mean Stalin. I expressed before that I would choose Jaya if ALagari creeps in.

Yes, Ford goes to her credit and the failed execution of IT corridor ( awarding to an unknown malaysian company???)
In 2000 IT boom CBE and Pune were the next IT hotspot and Jaya announced Tidel Park with NO execution or movement and went into deep hibernation and land prices skyrocketed so much that it became financially untenable and flat prices now compare to BLR, in the meantime we know where Pune went and now we are happy to be content with compared to Lucknow.
Screwing up CBE's chances and firing Harinarain(the only performing IT secretary) are the main reason she should be avoided.

As per India Today issue in 95, CBE and Pune were rated as top ten boom cities with CBE ranking above Pune. DMK killed boom in CBE by removing the check post @ Kottaimedu and by releasing criminals in 96-97. Any IT boom you are talking about in 2000 is imaginary. Real estate market @ Coimbatore was right down pathetic during 1999-2003. Real estate started picking up only after 2004. So please check facts before posting.

In fact CBE started commanding unreasonable RE price during 2006-2010 compared to 2001-2006 and DMK government did nothing about it. We could get reasonably priced homes till 2005. And now the status is still same, not much value added IT companies @ CBE even after 5 years of your ayya's so-called golden rule.

vs007

January 15th, 2011, 05:06 AM

DMK killed boom in CBE by removing the check post @ Kottaimedu and by releasing criminals in 96-97. Any IT boom you are talking about in 2000 is imaginary.

:)

kongutamizhan

January 15th, 2011, 05:11 AM

^^ :)

TShyam

January 15th, 2011, 04:35 PM

We have seen the airport project taking off, the new assemble, cleanup of Marina, new Library, and ofcourse Dayanidhi Maran during IT ministry was instrumental in bringing Nokia,Motorola, FLextronics, Dell putting Chennai on hardware map.

As I said IT secretary Harinarain under Jaya was doing great job doing marketing for Chennai in her absence or vision and when he was getting the traction and credit, she unceremoniously dumped him and replaced him with some bookish PhD kinda guy who did nothing to continue the momentum.

Atleast here we know Stalin is interested in improving Chennai and TN. Ofcourse if Alagiri or Ramadoss comes up as CM, then I would rather prefer Jaya. :)

PS: I am not on any of the *DMK* side, only on the side of the TN's progress. If Congress,CPI takes to that path, I would support them too.

Duh!! These were in spite of DMK, not because of DMK. All the manufacturing units came here because of intrinsic merit of TN.

Arul Murugan

January 15th, 2011, 05:10 PM

@DMK supporters!

Can any one give "any" valid statistics on FDI, Manufacturing output, IT exports, other exports, gvt revenue. gdp growth for past 10years? It will tell whether the state has seen any Himalayan growth during the past 5years which usually the DMK supporters claim.

In my view the above stats will be in steady growth rate irrespective of the parties ruling the state. The growth rate will be much similar for the so called pro-development DMK also the so called anti-development ADMK.

As T.Shyam told, any investment, development of the state is due to the merit of TN and the people and not due to any gvt.

Hope this merit is not ruined by opening TASMAC shops which is growing in every village and also in every street of cities/towns. It is a big shame that this TN gvt runs only with the money from TASMAC!

We need a gvt which can spin money from TNEB, Infrastructure, and also taxes and not from TASMAC or brothel.

srinivasan1@hotmail.

January 15th, 2011, 05:21 PM

No one can denie that Jayalalithaa was responsible Chasing away iinvestments away from Tamilnadu.The bigest investment was Singapore corridor.Others like Volkswagen.Semindia,addidas were also sentaway to neibouring states because of Jayalalithaa's lethargy.Statistically more foreign and Indian invvestments have taken place during DMK rule. If all these investments are due the intrinsic advantages of Tamilnadu,then why this difference in the quantum of investments dring the two periods.
srinivasan1@hotmail

TShyam

January 15th, 2011, 05:52 PM

^^Statistically speaking the quantum of FDI increases each year in India. So statistically speaking any 5 year period will have a higher FDI flow than its previous 5 years. Thats why statistically speaking the last 5 years attracted more FDI than the previous 5 years. So statistically speaking DMK government is not pro investment as claimed. Statistically speaking 2001 - 2006 ADMK government received more investment than 96 - 01 DMK government which inturn I am sure would have attracted more investment than 91-96 ADMK rule. So statistically speaking do you agree ADMK is better than DMK?? So much for "statistics" sigh. It is so convenient you took the last two terms to find out who attracted more investments. Grow up people, you cannot use statistics to further your own point.

This government has the dubious distinction of finishing the whole term without improving the power situation. In 2006 - TN was power surplus, in 2007 - slipped into power deficit. 2008,09,10 - the magnitude of the deficit kept on rising and the peak deficit is now pegged at over 3000 MW!!

Limit this forum to healthy discussions and please do not further your own personal or political agenda.

bonoslack7

January 15th, 2011, 06:00 PM

Any government that closes down tasmac has my vote. I like dmk as they have done their bit for the state, as there has been a little amount of partiality from the ministers at the centre towards TN. But getting revenue from tasmac is beyond nonsensical as it breaks the social fabric. I think the government has decided that there is nothing profitable a gov. company can do, like how power finance made a huge loss, tneb loss, etc. So, they probably ended up selling sarakku because thats the easiest to lure.

TShyam

January 15th, 2011, 06:05 PM

I dont think that is financially feasible. Our government is addicted to TASMAC more than our kudimagans.

murlee

January 15th, 2011, 06:08 PM

Reg this TASMAC thing... DO u ppl wanna see complete ban in sale of liquor in TN or fully private setup without the involvement of govt??

TShyam

January 15th, 2011, 06:24 PM

^^
Each one will have one opinion. As far as I am concerned, privatization with stiff increase in taxes is the way to go.

srinivasan1@hotmail.

January 15th, 2011, 06:24 PM

As I said before Jayalalithaa was responsible for sending away investments to neighbouring states.Where as the Dmk government made policy decisions regardig in the IT sector and theAutomobile sector.Many Big investments in recent times have been because of these policies.Examples are Nissan-Renault,Daimler,Nissan-Ashok Leyland.Michelin,Apollo Tyre expansion ,Samsung expansion and Hyundai expansio.
srinivasan1@hotmail

murlee

January 15th, 2011, 06:35 PM

If u r willing to go private for liquor sale, then why not govt?? Atleast with govt, there could be a limit for the number of shops.. If private players come in, dont u think there is gonna be tremendous increase in the number of shops??

vs007

January 15th, 2011, 06:45 PM

Duh!! These were in spite of DMK, not because of DMK. All the manufacturing units came here because of intrinsic merit of TN.

At the same time we praise Modi for attracting industries. :)

You need some one at the top willing to listen and meet the honchos, not expect them to prostrate in front of them.
I have mentioned about CBE whereby Jaya announced the Tidel Park and after 8 years it was DMK Govt that pushed it and got it done.

Jaya never went anywhere outside TN to attract industries, atleast the thatha went to BLore and Stalin is visiting Korea,China etc to get more investments.

If Jaya comes, then her single point agenda would be put thatha in jail, stop metro rail, give monorail contract to her fav malayasian companies and fire people and then rehire them.
Rajani said it right that even God cannot save TN if the mercurial lady comes back to power.

kongutamizhan

January 15th, 2011, 06:45 PM

With respect to previous discussions on alcohol, setting emotions aside think of it this way

You cannot ban liquor altogether by citing moral reasons. What about the right of those who wanted to drink without causing trouble to others?
If you still uphold moral reasons you might have to ban lots of things like Cigars, Beedis and I could extend that arguement to anywhere on moral lines like leather, wool, diamonds (slavery in Africa) to non-vegetarianism and even vegetarianism (like milk). Everything I mentioned here are morally wrong too. Where will u draw the line?
Liquor is business, generates income so it's not illegal. All Nordic countries runs it as a business. It's not that DMK or ADMK invented it.
It's injurious to one's personal health and doesn't affect the third person if he /she doesn't consume (Unlike cigars where passive smokers are affected). I foresee what next arguement on this point will be. The drunkard's nuisance. Come up with strict laws to combat it. Create awareness to drink responsibly. Ban alcohol @ public places.

What's frustrating with respect to TN government is

Government does it for personal gains of few in power.

They think that's the only way to generate income. Easy to open a TASMAC (Or private liqour when it used to be that way) shop faster compared to a frachise of let's say a fast food. The red-tapism was something that always was absent when it came to liqour and existed on other businesses.

Lack of commitment when it comes to enforcement of alcohol abusive laws.

Yet to see the commitment to create awareness on the impacts of alcohol with respect to ones personal health and other social reasons (Like drunk-and-drive, respecting third persons privacy etc.,). Yet to see a AIDS like campaign that's committed to create awareness among common man. Despite all this if someone drinks then it means that they are making an informed decision. Currently I don't think people are making an informed decision when it comes to drinking.

Having said all that alcohol business is okay, but I still think government should stay away from any business and privatize them all for pure economic reasons.

Happy pongal to everyone. Enjoy with family and stay away from alcohol. If you still want to drink, drink responsibly. More discussions welcome:)

kongutamizhan

January 15th, 2011, 06:49 PM

Rajani said it right that even God cannot save TN if the mercurial lady comes back to power.

Same Rajini is scared to say it now despite this government's 5000X times atrocities compared to Jaya. Why?

TShyam

January 15th, 2011, 06:51 PM

A private company looks at all possible locations and zeroes in on one. If it doesnt invest after taking a look, it is not equivalent to government "chasing it away". Toyota, Honda, GM didnt invest in TN - so should I consider DMK chased away those (oh yeah they all looked into Chennai too before zeroing in on their respective locations)??

And FYI Hyundai, Ford all came in Jaya term only. These were the first massive true blue automotive FDI's which came into India.

And as I have said neither Jaya can take credit for Hyundai or Ford nor DMK can take credit for Nissan or Samsung. They all set shop here for a reason. Policy framework and government were conducive - yes but there is no difference between DMK and ADMK in this matter. If you think DMK is better, there is nothing on the ground to back that up.

@Murlee: Simple. Its not the government's job to sell liquor. If government gets involved, it would only lead to inefficiency. Why do you think there will be proliferation of shops? Private shops still need permits. Government should stop with issuing permits. It has no role running those shops.

TShyam

January 15th, 2011, 07:03 PM

At the same time we praise Modi for attracting industries. :)

You need some one at the top willing to listen and meet the honchos, not expect them to prostrate in front of them.
I have mentioned about CBE whereby Jaya announced the Tidel Park and after 8 years it was DMK Govt that pushed it and got it done.

Jaya never went anywhere outside TN to attract industries, atleast the thatha went to BLore and Stalin is visiting Korea,China etc to get more investments.

If Jaya comes, then her single point agenda would be put thatha in jail, stop metro rail, give monorail contract to her fav malayasian companies and fire people and then rehire them.
Rajani said it right that even God cannot save TN if the mercurial lady comes back to power.

TN achieved universal literacy at the primary level in 2002, Gujarat hasnt achieved it yet.

TN achieved 98% completion rate at the upper primary and secondary level. Gujarat is around 70%

TN produces almost 200000 engineering graduates a year. Gujarat does not even produce 1/4 of it.

IMR of TN is less than 30, Gujarat has an IMR of around 50. MMR of TN - 110, Gj - 250.

Inspite of all these things, look at the investments Gujarat is getting. That is why everyone is praising Modi. For a state he inherited, he is doing an outstanding job.

Regarding traveling and wooing investors, that trend is a recent phenomenon popularized by Modi. For example, how many trips did MK and his son made while they were in power during 96-01?? Leave 96 - 01, how many trips did they make in the first 2 or 3 years of the present government? Now it has become a fashion statement to do foreign trips and call it attracting investment.

And seriously, Bangalore?? Its hardly 40 Km from TN border. You call it a trip to attract investment?? And the main reason he went there was to open the statue of Thiruvalluvar.

bonoslack7

January 15th, 2011, 07:09 PM

^^yeah...thats exactly what i wanted to say about tasmac. Our government is great at setting rules for private players than following them and wouldnt mind closing them down incase of breach. Moreover the gov. builds tasmac shop in each and every place because they don't mind making a small loss unlike private ones. If they make a sincere effort towards tnstc and start building new airport themselves instead of aai, it can do wonders in terms of earnings.

As for dmk, dhayanidhi did a lot of things convincing companies to set up here. azhagiri did something for madurai, etc etc.

Arul Murugan

January 15th, 2011, 07:13 PM

Jaya never went anywhere outside TN to attract industries, atleast the thatha went to BLore and Stalin is visiting Korea,China etc to get more investments.

:lol: r u serious? Thatha went there to one of his family member house.

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I wonder why still people talk in air or just with media brain wash about this building was opened, that park was opened, that flyover was opened... etc., Anyone have statistics on IT output/export of the state right from 2000? which will educate us to know how much DMK has done and how much ADMK have done!!

P:S I couldn't find any detail stats on that.

kongutamizhan

January 15th, 2011, 07:15 PM

And seriously, Bangalore?? Its hardly 40 Km from TN border. You call it a trip to attract investment?? And the main reason he went there was to open the statue of Thiruvalluvar.

And also add to it that the first family have a farm house there where the Sun TV settlement was made so that thatha could come out and say "Kangal panindhadhu, Idhayam inithathu".

TShyam

January 15th, 2011, 07:29 PM

And also add to it that the first family have a farm house there where the Sun TV settlement was made so that thatha could come out and say "Kangal panindhadhu, Idhayam inithathu".

But I have to confess I have high hopes for Stalin. Another thing is that the Mannargudi mafia is worse than this first family. Atleast they have the people's mandate whereas that mafia is extra constitutional.

krishnaswamy

January 15th, 2011, 08:06 PM

But I have to confess I have high hopes for Stalin. Another thing is that the Mannargudi mafia is worse than this first family. Atleast they have the people's mandate whereas that mafia is extra constitutional.
This time Mannargudi group cant exploit because DMDK will be there to stop them..
1. Sarkaria commission in 1967 itself certified that "no body can loot as intellectual as "thatha".
2. Do you think "Spectrum Raja" is wise enough to cause the potential loss of the 1.76 lakh crore rupees to exchequer of Central Govt? Its all thatha's mastermind that he asked one of the BIG reputed Dubai firm to buy the spetrum from low profile companny. BIG reputed Dubai Group is coming bing in real estate, and insurance(TN govt's insurance..big money) where one of his binami is in Execute board..
3. TNSTC is under loss because Omni bus operators pouring money, low quallity of spare parts, commission in buying new buses. Remeber why we are not maintaining the TNSTC buses is, because poor quality of buses, new buses will be bought and lot of commission in each order. TN Transport dept is worst corrupted Dept of all in TN.
4. MK Family allocated TN cities accordingly. TN-Chennai North and ECR to Maran Family, TN-Chennai South upto tindivanam and Sriperumbudur side- Stalin, Madurai for Alagiri. Trichy for Kanimozhi and Nehru. CBE for Raja and later it can ge given to either dhaya or udaya :-)
These present DMK Govt sucks..

vs007

January 16th, 2011, 06:11 AM

:lol: r u serious? Thatha went there to one of his family member house.

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I wonder why still people talk in air or just with media brain wash about this building was opened, that park was opened, that flyover was opened... etc.,
P:S I couldn't find any detail stats on that.

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/now-tn-comes-calling-to-woo-bangalore-it-firms/164538/0
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/karunanidhi-woos-infosys-wipro/249137/

TShyam

January 16th, 2011, 06:44 AM

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/now-tn-comes-calling-to-woo-bangalore-it-firms/164538/0
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/karunanidhi-woos-infosys-wipro/249137/

Arre baba the BS article says that he was on a private visit. Ehtukkum irukatume nu Infosys, Wipro campus ku pona athu odane wooing the investors ah? Are you saying that they wouldnt have come to Chennai if MK did not visit their campus?

It also says MK wanted them to expand into tier 2 cities. How many of them have expanded into tier 2 cities? - Even now? why?

The other article says Kumaraswamy didnt want software companies to open in Bangalore anymore. Has is stopped Bangalore from being the premium destination in India? (although it is much easier for govt to scuttle development than create development)

"The seven-member team that included TN industries secretary Sakthi Kant Das, also studied the Bangalore IT corridor after visiting Infosys and Wipro, on instructions from Mr Karunanidhi, the sources said."

What a joke!! The IT corridor till Tidel Park which was ready in 2006 looks far better and is genuinely world class as compared to the rest of the corridor which can compete for the the title of worst IT corridor in the world.

Anyway I am repeating the same thing again and again and am being forced to take sides even though I want to be objective. So otherwise I see a genuinely different point of view, I am not going to reply on this topic anymore.

kongutamizhan

January 16th, 2011, 07:02 AM

Anyway I am repeating the same thing again and again and am being forced to take sides even though I want to be objective. So otherwise I see a genuinely different point of view, I am not going to reply on this topic anymore.

I see what you are saying :lol: When I decided to join and write in SSCI after being a passive reader for a while the forum was so full of DMK propagandists (especially the Chennai side) talking about how they made TN a heaven.

To give them fair credit they did make it a heaven -> for criminals, gangsters, bribed even common man and soaked their hands with corrupt money, made people lazy by giving freebies, paying people for not having to work for Infrastructure projects (Paying 1/2 wage and showing as if they worked and swindling the remaining) etc.,

vs007

January 16th, 2011, 07:07 AM

1. Arre baba the BS article says that he was on a private visit.

2.Ehtukkum irukatume nu Infosys, Wipro campus ku pona athu odane wooing the investors ah?
Aren't your two statements self contradictory? First you guys said it was a private visit to BLR, and upon producing the links you once again claim the same and then ridicule his visit to Infy and Wipro.

Are you saying that they wouldnt have come to Chennai if MK did not visit their campus?
Whats your idea of wooing? Did Jaya ever go to BLR or Hyd(not her pvt visits to visit her unofficial family :), see what goes around comes around).

What a joke!! The IT corridor till Tidel Park which was ready in 2006 looks far better and is genuinely world class as compared to the rest of the corridor which can compete for the the title of worst IT corridor in the world.
Maybe Jaya can explain thru her malaysian contractors.

Anyway I am repeating the same thing again and again and am being forced to take sides even though I want to be objective.
Ah I see!!! :)

Arul Murugan

January 16th, 2011, 07:23 AM

I see what you are saying :lol: When I decided to join and write in SSCI after being a passive reader for a while the forum was so full of DMK propagandists (especially the Chennai side) talking about how they made TN a heaven.

To give them fair credit they did make it a heaven -> for criminals, gangsters, bribed even common man and soaked their hands with corrupt money, made people lazy by giving freebies, paying people for not having to work for Infrastructure projects (Paying 1/2 wage and showing as if they worked and swindling the remaining) etc.,

I have seen many justifying 2G scam for the sake TN(opps! Chennai) is getting infrastructure from the so called pro-infra DMK. At the same time I wonder what was that world class infra in Chennai... Now the city is chocked with cars/two wheelers.. it is getting worst than Bengaluru which was once called as traffic jam capital of India.

Arul Murugan

January 16th, 2011, 07:33 AM

Aren't your two statements self contradictory? First you guys said it was a private visit to BLR, and upon producing the links you once again claim the same and then ridicule his visit to Infy and Wipro.

Whats your idea of wooing? Did Jaya ever go to BLR or Hyd(not her pvt visits to visit her unofficial family :), see what goes around comes around).

Maybe Jaya can explain thru her malaysian contractors.

Ah I see!!! :)

Thanks for the link. This is what I called as media brain wash! I can also paste hundreds of links about the news of stalin or the ruling party MLA's visits to many countries and within the country to look after integrated drinking water, sewage treatment, restore river from sewage.... etc.,

There is only a small difference between ADMK and DMK.... first party goes to Kodanadu for rest, but the guys in former party goes to different cities/places in the official disguise to enjoy their holidays.

What we got in reality? Final outcome will be much similar growth. b/w how these visits are considered seriously as pro-development? even the much hyped GJ submit by MODI didn't draw the investment in reality as painted in the submit.

People easily forget about Lalu and Velu visits to many countries for running bullet trains in India. It is paid LTA for politicians and babus. :lol:

TShyam

January 16th, 2011, 07:41 AM

Aren't your two statements self contradictory? First you guys said it was a private visit to BLR, and upon producing the links you once again claim the same and then ridicule his visit to Infy and Wipro.

Not only me, the link you gave also says the same thing. Prove me that visit made the companies invest in Chennai. Mahindra world city was already under construction and Infosys was all set to move in as soon as the facility is complete. Ditto with Wipro

Whats your idea of wooing? Did Jaya ever go to BLR or Hyd(not her pvt visits to visit her unofficial family :), see what goes around comes around).
My idea of wooing is giving the right ecosystem for a company to grow. Did I ever claim that her visit to Hyderabad brought in investments? (you are smug but not smart enough :))

Maybe Jaya can explain thru her malaysian contractors.
The same contractors did a outstanding job till 2006 and turned mediocre after that - doesnt it say something?

Ah I see!!! :)
Keep on seeing :). Good that you conveniently didnt quote the questions I asked which you could not answer.

vs007

January 16th, 2011, 08:00 AM

Not only me, the link you gave also says the same thing. Prove me that visit made the companies invest in Chennai.

Feel free to revisit the post #3325 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=70703189&postcount=3325) to read upon the original claim from where the discussion about the thata's visit starter before you start expanding the claims!

Nevertheless I am sure you would appreciate the need and necessity of building rapport and relationship between Govt and pvt entities and sometimes its done by the Govt going to their places than the other way around.

TShyam

January 16th, 2011, 08:17 AM

Feel free to revisit the post #3325 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=70703189&postcount=3325) to read upon the original claim from where the discussion about the thata's visit starter before you start expanding the claims!

Duh!! These were in spite of DMK, not because of DMK. All the manufacturing units came here because of intrinsic merit of TN.

This was the original statement, and I still stand by it. Look at the strikes in the manufacturing centers and there are enough media reports which say all of it has something to do with DMK. These people are in power in center and state. Who are they protesting to? They are not getting a foothold in IT because it is not unionized. As simple as that (note that I am not saying ADMK are/will be any better)

Nevertheless I am sure you would appreciate the need and necessity of building rapport and relationship between Govt and pvt entities and sometimes its done by the Govt going to their places than the other way around.

No! Government is government and business is business. There is no need for building a relationship (unless the leader is a person with unquestionable integrity). It will only be counterproductive and will lead to under the table dealings. In other words, it is a conflict of interest.

Provide infrastructure, advertise it (ofcourse inviting companies is one of the way to do it), and make sure the companies stick to the rules. That is all is required from the government. Anyway as far as I know, blackmailing companies with unions is not the best way to "build rapport and relationship".

vs007

January 16th, 2011, 08:35 AM

There is no need for building a relationship.

:)

TShyam

January 16th, 2011, 08:36 AM

The government cannot claim credit for things which would happen anyway but was not scuttled by it. Not scuttling development is hardly an achievement.

Just look at the sectors where government could make a difference

1) Education: Nothing revolutionary was done in this space. The general trend of increasing literacy, increasing enrollment ratios continued. Initiatives like abacus teaching, IIT JEE coaching in a few schools is a step in the right direction but they are few and far. Nothing done on the higher education front.

2) Health: Again, nothing revolutionary.

3) Roads: Few initiatives which are all cases of supply coming much later than demand - nothing visionary.

4) Railways: bah

5) Ports: meh

6) Power: next

Here, that is the report card of DMK government.

bonoslack7

January 16th, 2011, 12:11 PM

I have seen many justifying 2G scam for the sake TN(opps! Chennai) is getting infrastructure from the so called pro-infra DMK. At the same time I wonder what was that world class infra in Chennai... Now the city is chocked with cars/two wheelers.. it is getting worst than Bengaluru which was once called as traffic jam capital of India.

i guess dmk added the largest number of jobs in whole of india last year. But regarding infra, its improving with flyovers and grade separators being built like kathipara etc. I am no supporter of dmk or admk, just my observations.

robertashok

January 16th, 2011, 12:13 PM

^^

I agree more than 100% for sure.

The reason why Tamilnadu has good educated force is because of Kamraj.
And the reason why things are getting better despite the problems is because of people themselves.

Right now all that the Govt should do is act as facilitators of improving the economy by clearing the projects for Infrastructure .

Secondly Concentrate on implementing the law and order properly,so that people have fear inorder to break it up.

srinivasan1@hotmail.

January 16th, 2011, 12:47 PM

TShyam! I wish to relate an experience I had in 1992.I happened to stay at The Connamara.[I met about ten Singaporean Industrialists.They had come to establish the Singapore corridor at Tharamani.They had waited for over two weeks for an appointment with Jayalalithaa,without any success.They were disappoited and disgusted.They left for Singapore in a hurry.Sometime lster the Sngapore Corridor was established in Bangalore.This has been the nucleus for all the devolopment in It and Electronics.This is the reason why Chennai lags benhind Bangalore.Perhaps this behaviour of Jayalalithaa was to help her home state
Similarly in 1984 Texas Instrunents.which had abandoned its proposal for a factory in Srilanka,because of the political situation prevailig then,decided to invest in Tamilnadu. As no encouragement was forthcoming from theMGR government, the moved to Bangalore to establish the Science City.
srinivasan1@hotmail

vs007

January 16th, 2011, 04:35 PM

kongutamizhan

January 16th, 2011, 05:24 PM

TShyam! I wish to relate an experience I had in 1992.I happened to stay at The Connamara.[I met about ten Singaporean Industrialists.They had come to establish the Singapore corridor at Tharamani.They had waited for over two weeks for an appointment with Jayalalithaa,without any success.They were disappoited and disgusted.They left for Singapore in a hurry.Sometime lster the Sngapore Corridor was established in Bangalore.
srinivasan1@hotmail

This is the second or third time you are posting this incident here. If someone is coming from abroad to meet a CM for business they should have fixed an appointment indicating the agenda even prior to their departure from foreign land. That's called planning:)

They just can't walk in and stay at Radison or Kamatchi lodge and call CM indicating they would be interested to meet him / her. If I make a trip to Chennai and call CM's office indicating that I would like to start a business will he be accessible to me in 2 weeks? Don't talk BS here(I am sure film actress and actors could meet him in 2 hour notice, so don't go by that example)

bonoslack7

January 16th, 2011, 06:52 PM

kongutamizhan

January 16th, 2011, 07:06 PM

lol...you seem to be considering businessmen from singapore to be worse than nutcases, who don't even know how to approach head of state. I presume the businessmen are from JTC, which is a reputed company and I am pretty much sure they are not retards.

Well if an appointment is made I don't see a CM of any state to be a nut case not willing to honor an appointment.

Not interested in project perhaps that's a different issue, but what he posted is someone waiting to meet CM.

TShyam

January 16th, 2011, 07:52 PM

Cut it out guys. This can go on and on.

For a change, watch this video of a true visionary leader from Andhra Pradesh, Dr. J.P. Narayan talking about the parliamentary reforms needed. He is someone who inspires hope among the public and shows all is not bad in India. I wish you spread the word about this man. Send these videos to as many people as you can, post it in your fb profile and create awareness among well meaning but clueless people.

About Dr.JP (Adopted from Wikipedia)

Dr. Jayaprakash Narayan is a noted Indian politician, social reformer and columnist. He is the President of Lok Satta Party and currently a Member of the Legislative Assembly from Kukatpally constituency in Andhra Pradesh. He is also a former Indian public administrator. He is well known for his role in bringing electoral reforms and for his columns on democracy in leading Indian daily newspapers.

He joined Andhra Loyola College in 1969 for his intermediate education. He obtained his medical degree from Guntur Medical College. Jayaprakash Narayan, a physician, joined public administration after making it to I.A.S. in 1980 standing all India second. He worked on agriculture, irrigation, technology and youth rehabilitation projects in various capacities in various districts of Andhra Pradesh. He resigned from the I.A.S in 1996, as he wanted to work on grass roots for good governance. Jayaprakash Narayan, an optimistic individual, talks about the efficacy of reforms in the governance, Economy of Andhra Pradesh among several other issues on various platforms in educational and political institutes.

Dr. JP has served on the following panels.

* The National Advisory Council (NAC) for the implementation of the National Common Minimum Programme (CMP), July 2004 through August 2006.
* Vigilance Advisory Council, constituted by the Central Vigilance Commission, November 2004
* Second Administrative Reforms Commission constituted by the Government of India in September 2005

He started the Lok Satta party in 2006 with clean politics and good governance and improvement of India as the main agenda. Lok Satta party contested in 2008 in the Assembly by-elections for the first time, and was able to secure second place in two of the four places (Khairatabad, Terlam) it contested from. His party, Lok Satta, contested again in the 243 Legislative Assembly seats in 2009 general elections. He toured Andhra Pradesh in trains similar to the way freedom fighters traveled to reach people. Jayaprakash Narayan himself contested from Kukatpally, and won with 15,000 votes majority over the nearest opponent. His victory is quoted as "the victory of people" as he won the election without distributing money or liquor.

Loksatta Movement achieved significant results in administrative and political reforms in the last 10 years including constitutional amendments to eliminate defections, reduce the size of cabinet, Right to Information Act (RTI), disclosure of criminal records and assets by all candidates and many more.

The TN wing if Loksatta is called Makkal sakthi katchi. (http://www.loksatta.org/TN/)

Now going on to the videos.

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After watching these I feel like i should join the party. Please spread the word. "The silence of good men is more dangerous than the brutality of bad men" - Martin Luther King.

vs007

January 16th, 2011, 08:04 PM

Well if an appointment is made I don't see a CM of any state to be a nut case not willing to honor an appointment.

The CM in question is Jaya, though. :lol:

bonoslack7

January 16th, 2011, 08:19 PM

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/1326-Indians-die-due-to-accidents-suicide-every-day/articleshow/7300325.cms

Every fifth person who killed himself in Maharashtra in 2009 was a farmer, recent suicide data says, nailing the state for most farm suicides for the tenth year in a row. Nationwide, 17,368 farmers killed themselves in 2009, 7% more than the count in 2008.

The data is part of National Crime Records Bureau`s annual report of deaths and suicides across the country. Overall, India reported 418 accidental deaths a day in 2009. Road accidents killed 348 people a day; as many killed themselves daily for reasons ranging from illness to failure in love. The suicide count rose 1.7% compared to 2008 while accidental deaths, including those in road mishaps, increased by 7.3% over the last year. Around 1.27 lakh people committed suicide and 3.57 lakh died accidental deaths.

Five states accounted for nearly two-thirds of all farm suicides in the country: Maharashtra (2,872), Andhra Pradesh (2,414), Karnataka (2,282), Chhattisgarh (1,802) and Madhya Pradesh (1,395). A total of 17,368 farmer suicides were reported in 2009. The figures almost doubled for Tamil Nadu, which reported 1,060 farmers` suicides in 2009, compared to 512 a year ago.

While poverty remained among the most common reasons for committing suicide, poorer states such as Bihar, Orissa and Jharkhand reported far fewer suicides than others. Bihar, for instance, reported 112 suicides while West Bengal reported most cases, 14,648. Orissa and Jharkhand reported 154 and 164 cases respectively. Bengal, along with four other states — Andhra Pradesh (14,500), Tamil Nadu (14,424), Maharashtra (14,300) and Karnataka (12,195) — accounted for more than 55% of the countrywide count.

Delhi fared better, with 1,477 cases being reported in 2009. Uttar Pradesh reported a comparatively lower number of suicides, accounting for only 3.3% of the total cases.

"A total of 223 males commit suicides per day in the country while the number for women is 125 out of which 69 are housewives," the records said. "Seventy-three people commit suicide on a single day due to illness while 10 are driven to suicide due to love affairs." Illness drove 21% of suicide victims while family problems was the reason cited in 21% of the cases.

Around 68.7% of the 1.27 lakh people who committed suicide across the country were in their prime -- 15-44 years.

"It is observed that social and economic causes have led most of the males to commit suicide whereas emotional and personal causes have mainly driven women to end their lives," the report said, adding the number of suicides due to unemployment and professional or career problems showed an increase of 18.8% and 15.1% respectively in 2009, when recession was just wearing off.

Among cities, Bangalore (2,167), Chennai (1,412), Delhi (1,215) and Mumbai (1,051) together reported almost 43.3% of the total suicides in 35 big cities in the country. However, in terms of rate of rise in accidental deaths, the sharpest climb was in Pune. Road accidents accounted for 37.9% of accidental deaths, followed by poisoning (8%), railway accidents (7.8%), drowning (7.7%) and fire accidents (7%).

bonoslack7

January 16th, 2011, 10:04 PM

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/ew/2011/01/17/stories/2011011750100300.htm

Three years ago, Dell set up a manufacturing plant in Sriperumbudur near Chennai, which now makes 1.5 lakh units annually — desktops, notebooks and servers. At this facility, about 425 young men and women have been recruited from the rural areas of Tamil Nadu. Lakshminarayan explains that this decision was taken because, initially, the Tamil Nadu government was keen that Dell India set up its manufacturing unit in a Tier II or III city. Chennai was chosen as it had the required infrastructure, but the management made a conscious decision to hire only from rural Tamil Nadu.

^^This is one of the differences between both ADMK and DMK. DMK created lots and lots of jobs.

TShyam

January 16th, 2011, 10:28 PM

The CM in question is Jaya, though. :lol:

All you are doing is taking personal potshots. Talking about her "alternate family", calling her a nut case, what more have you got?

I feel like a jackass trying to argue with you with genuine points. All I should have done was to call MK a polygamist, nepotist and a loser.

srinivasan1@hotmail.

January 16th, 2011, 10:53 PM

kongutamizhan

January 16th, 2011, 11:40 PM

^^

Your name is Srinivasan
You call our H'ble CM as Karunanidhi
You have 27 posts and most of them indirectly provoke anti-MK sentiments in the forum
I do see "vanja pugazhchi" written allover your posts whenever you talk about MK

Don't you think we can't identify who you are? Pasunthol porthiya nari. Ozhiga parpaneeyam :lol: :cheers:

TShyam

January 17th, 2011, 12:53 AM

Do not call Karunanidhi a polygamist.I could quote Kalimuthu(former ADMK speaker) who said jayalalithaa lived openly with many men.Can you describe as moral the performance of shashtiapurthi with Sasikala.
srinivasan1@hotmail

Thanks. That explains why MK is a polygamist. Nice justification. Anyway dont accuse me of personal comments. The person above me started it (god, i feel like a 7 yr old kid complaining to mommy).

vs007

January 17th, 2011, 03:33 AM

All you are doing is taking personal potshots. Talking about her "alternate family", calling her a nut case, what more have you got?

I feel like a jackass trying to argue with you with genuine points. All I should have done was to call MK a polygamist, nepotist and a loser.

A lady expecting her ministers to prostrate in front of everybody as if she is some mariamman and lowers the prestige of the state and makes it look like a bunch of jokers needs to be called out. A nut case is a very charitable remark at that.

Whatever you said about MK is also true and is not an ideal choice of CM either. Both of them including Ramadoss, Alagiri should have never won the election, but then Churchill is so true(You deserve the kinda govt you get)

PS: If you express that you feel like jackass, child or whatever when discussing this and yet continue to post, then its high time you stop either of the two. :D

TShyam

January 17th, 2011, 06:40 AM

Oh this is "discussion". Alright. Now I feel good. Afterall we were engaged in "discussion".

Leo_r

January 17th, 2011, 09:11 AM

Be an Internet troll..

In other words, how to lose friends and irritate people on the Internet.

A troll is like the scum of the Internet. The purpose of his existence is to challenge the hero and play pest/spoilsport/critic/villain/supervillain by constantly attempting to discredit, rubbish and criticise all of the hero's attempts. To be a troll, you need not have any argument or merit, just a string of abuses targeted towards your object of obsession does the trick, and gets you noticed. All a troll needs is attention. And, you should get it no matter what it takes.

http://www.hindu.com/mp/2011/01/13/stories/2011011351340500.htm

srinivasan1@hotmail.

January 17th, 2011, 11:12 AM

kongutamizhan! You are at liberty to come to any conclusion.I have only mentioned the truth.If any statement made by anyone provokes DMK and Karunanidhi bashing,it shows the prejudice of those provoked.I am only interested in the welfare and progress of all people of Tamilnadu,infact all people of India.
Anyone visitig India regularly in recent years could see the increased affluence and the overall progress of some parts of India.Tamilnadu definitely is one such part.
srinivasan1@hotmail

bonoslack7

January 17th, 2011, 08:00 PM

http://www.cambridgefirst.co.uk/news/more_indian_success_for_sepura_1_776151

Cambridge company Sepura has secured another deal in India – hot on the heels of its monorail contract announced earlier this month.

Its terrestrial trunked radio (TETRA) devices have been chosen to provide secure communications for the Tamil Nadu Police.

They will enable the force to track the location of officers and vehicles accurately, even where global positioning system (GPS) technology is unable to provide accurate information – such as dense urban environments with high-rise buildings.

Central control will also be able to match officers to immediate demand – which is particularly important in emergencies or when specialist units are required.

“This is another significant step forward for Sepura in a region where TETRA is progressively expanding,” said Satya Kommanapalli, country manager for Sepura, which is based in St Andrew’s Road, Cambridge.

The contract was made possible by Consort Digital – a major distributor for Sepura in India – which recently secured the contract for the Mumbai Monorail TETRA project.

Tamil Nadu is one of India’s 28 states and lies in the southernmost part of the Indian peninsula. Its police force is the fifth largest in the country.

ChennaiIndian

January 18th, 2011, 02:07 AM

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article1095621.ece

Finance Minister K. Anbazhagan on Sunday hailed the linguistic and literary contributions of Tamil to the composite culture of Asia. Inaugurating a three-day silver jubilee symposium hosted by the Institute of Asian Studies, Mr. Anbazhagan said ancient Tamil had a historicity comparable to Hebrew, and had cast its influence far and wide.

Linguistic evidence

He pointed to linguistic evidence about spiritual leaders like the Buddhist monk Bodhidharma, who hailed from Kancheepuram, being ambassadors of Tamil and expanding the sphere of influence of the language. Researchers also indicate that Lord Buddha too was well acquainted with ancient Tamil, he said.

...

ChennaiIndian

January 18th, 2011, 02:10 AM

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Vijayakanth-dares-Karunanidhi/articleshow/7307516.cms

CHENNAI: Actor-turned-politician Vijayakanth has thrown a challenge at chief minister M Karunanidhi, saying he would contest in the same constituency as the DMK chief for the forthcoming assembly election. Participating in a Pongal function in Villupuram on Saturday, the actor, who heads the DMDK, said, "If need be, I will contest against the chief minister himself." :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

The actor who is likely to align with the AIADMK, said he would contest in whichever assembly constituency Karunanidhi chose to fight. Vijayakanth's challenge could throw up an interesting electoral contest. In most assembly elections, the DMK chief has contested from the Chepauk assembly constituency that falls within Chennai.

...

kongutamizhan

January 18th, 2011, 05:04 AM

^^ What is there to laugh?

ChennaiIndian

January 18th, 2011, 06:24 AM

^^ Vijayakanth generally creates laughter. Adhaaaaaaaaaaaaan. :)

ChennaiIndian

January 18th, 2011, 07:14 AM

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/scientists-leave-their-mark-957

Chennai, Jan. 16: The journey to the South Pole by a team of Indian scientists, on a shorter and relatively unused route, was fraught with danger, says Kandaswamy Krishnamoorthy, who drove the lead truck to the southernmost part of the world.
Krishnamoorthy, the first Tamilian to reach the South Pole, says there were many crevasses along the path and even heavy-built Arctic trucks could have just fallen into them and disappeared for ever. :cheers::cheers::cheers:
Krishnamoorthy was the driver-cum-mechanic who provided logistic support to the eight-member Indian team led by Prof Rasik Raveendra, director, Natio-nal Centre For Antarctic and Ocean Research, Goa.
“The route between Mythri (the Indian research station in Antarctica) and South Pole is dangerous in all respects. We ventured out only in the night because in the South Pole the sunlight is so severe and can leave you dead because of high temperatures,” he said.
“Our team flew from Goa to Cape Town via Mumbai. From Cape Town, we had chartered IL 76, a special giant aircraft, to transport us to Antarctica. We reached South Pole on November 22 and Dr Raveedra hoisted the national tricolour. It was a proud moment,” said Krishnamoorthy.

...

kongutamizhan

January 18th, 2011, 07:19 AM

^^ Vijayakanth generally creates laughter. Adhaaaaaaaaaaaaan. :)

oozhalukku naan neruppunu solradha vidava idhu comedy-a irukku? :lol: hmmm

ImsaiArasan

January 18th, 2011, 07:24 AM

^^ Vijayakanth generally creates laughter. Adhaaaaaaaaaaaaan. :)

Nothing to laugh. IN last assembly election MK won the chepauk consituency by 2K margin, which is very low for all the talks MK made. And his 2nd man Anbazhagan won from Harbour by 500 votes. There won't be any surprise if he looses to Vijayakanth in Chepauk itself. That too the way rowdy elements are troubling life in Chepauk constituency, ther are more chances if any strong man contest against MK.
Vridhachalam is a vanniar belt and Vijayakanth came from Madurai and won there against PMK.

spidermanusa

January 18th, 2011, 02:32 PM

satchitananda

January 18th, 2011, 02:56 PM

I have one genuine non partisan doubt. The way the state budget is balanced tells you how one runs the state. (Atleast in West thats a big deal).

What is the fiscal situation of TN in the last four-five years ? Have they built a surplus ? Have they built a deficit owing to useless free every nonsense schemes ?

The reason I am trying to ask is simple, if someone who cannot balance the budget in a growing economy and still keep it in deficit, I would give them no matter who it is, a big -ve. My question is factual. Please keep politics and personal obervations apart. Maybe provide a table with SDP, per capita, Fiscal Deficit/surplus etc for the last 4-5 years. Thanks in advance.

TShyam

January 18th, 2011, 04:22 PM

^^ No SG in India balances the budget. Its always deficit no matter what.

satchitananda

January 18th, 2011, 05:07 PM

^^ No SG in India balances the budget. Its always deficit no matter what.

I am quite aware most states do not balance budgets. The idea of raising this Q is to highlight based on the facts how sound the state is on financial matters. I am not sure if there is an increasing or decreasing deficit trend. These numbers will give an idea into the attitude and approach of SG. Now if you were to tell that they dont bother about these, then it would amount to a BIG RED FLAG by itself.

ChennaiIndian

January 18th, 2011, 06:57 PM

oozhalukku naan neruppunu solradha vidava idhu comedy-a irukku? :lol: hmmm
Yeah, that is even more funny! :rofl:

kongutamizhan

January 18th, 2011, 11:55 PM

At the same time we praise Modi for attracting industries. :)

Though Shyam replied to you on this, just thought of posting this article that I happned to read today. See the difference :)

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/is-it-time-to-acknowledge-the-gujarat-miracle/articleshow/7295775.cms?curpg=1

wlbkng

January 19th, 2011, 12:00 AM

CHENNAI : Tamil Nadu Government on Tuesday constituted a 14-member committee, headed by retired judge S Mohan, to deliberate upon issues involved in encoding Tamil alphabets in unicode standard. The unicode standard is a character coding system designed to support the worldwide interchange, processing, and display of the written texts in different scripts.

An order directing setting up of the committee, was issued by the chief minister M Karunanidhi here.

An official release said that the appointed members including noted poet Vairamuthu and Vice Chancellor of Tamil University, Tanjavur among others would hold wider consultations and make recommendations to the state government, which would then convey its stance to the Centre.

The Centre sent a communication to the Unicode Consortium, proposing to encode Indian heritage (Vedic, Sanskrit and Grantha) in the unicode standard, so that ancient knowledge could be represented on electronic media, computers and internet.

The Unicode Consortium is a non-profit organization involved in developing, maintaining, and promoting software internationalisation standards and data.

Tamil Nadu Government had already written a letter to the Centre that the proposal has raised considerable concern among a cross-section of the Tamil community. The letter also stated that Tamil community has indicated that sufficient consultations have not taken place with eminent Tamil language scholars, before submitting the proposal.

Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Tamil-alphabet-unicoding-panel/articleshow/7315540.cms#ixzz1BQlLuLM1

dhandapanik

January 19th, 2011, 12:54 PM

Latest Union ministers.. Some Important portfolios

Vayalar Ravi : Overseas Indian Affairs and additional charge of Civil Aviation (earlier handled by Praful Patel) --- தமிழ்நாடு airports நிலைமை கொஞ்ச கஷ்டம் தான்

E. Ahamed : External Affairs - Earlier MOS for railways

Bharatsinh Solanki : Railways -- Is it MOS for railways?

KC Venugopalsworn in as Power minister. MP from Alapuzha.

bonoslack7

January 19th, 2011, 11:12 PM

http://www.hindu.com/2011/01/20/stories/2011012060380500.htm

This university has seen students from many countries. But not from the United States. That vacuum was filled when Megan Elizabeth Fenton from Penn-Yann, New York, walked into its portals.

She has travelled all the way to Coimbatore to pursue a master's degree at Tamil Nadu Agricultural University (TNAU). Megan registered as a full-time student for the post-graduate degree programme in agronomy on Wednesday.

While the movement of Indian students to foreign shores, especially the U.S., for higher education is on the rise with every academic year, the reverse is not comparable to it. Even some of the students who come from the country on exchange programmes do so for attending short-term courses.

In this scenario, the girl, an agricultural science graduate from Cornell University, the U.S., has come to India on her own initiative.

The university has nearly 30 students from countries such as Africa, Sri Lanka, Egypt, Iran and Iraq. Though their entry began more than four decades ago, there has not been a single student from the U.S.

According to Vice-Chancellor P. Murugesa Boopathi, it is a matter of great pride. “It goes to show that the infrastructure and other facilities in TNAU are on a par with international universities. A student coming here from the U.S. is unique in the sense that even with the best facilities available in her own country, she has chosen to pursue it here”.

While those from other countries choose to study at TNAU for better academic and research prospects, the case with Megan is different. She was one among a group of students who came on a visit to India under the aegis of the International Agricultural Rural Development (IARD) programme of Cornell University and TNAU two years ago when she was a student of agricultural science in the former.

Inspired by the research and extension activities of TNAU, she decided to pursue any kind of programme here. Owner of 400-acre of agricultural land which Megan manages with a partner, she has both theoretical and practical knowledge of the subject. She also worked as an extension worker for a year before applying to TNAU. Her goal, however, is to become a teacher in international agriculture. Having decided her career chart, Megan took it upon herself to get admission in TNAU. “My most favourite teachers were those who have had practical experience. So, I believe that my work on my farm and also as an extension worker will help me be a good teacher. ”.

“I did not know where to begin. I sent an e-mail to the Dean of Post-Graduate Studies sharing my desire. He advised me on the application procedures and also gave me the provision to join the course mid-way,” Megan says.

According to Dean C. Udayasooriyan, Megan will be in class along with other PG students pursuing agronomy. Since she has joined mid-way, she will begin with the second semester and then do her first semester with the next batch of students. The second year will be research-oriented, both in the field and in the laboratory.

Megan has to obtain 55 credits from the papers she chooses to pursue under the Choice-based Credit System and her research work put together.

She was chosen by a Recognition Committee, set up to select such students who do not have to undergo an entrance test or other such selection formalities. Students from foreign countries will be admitted only if they apply through the embassy, Indian Council of Agricultural Research, or Indian Council for Cultural Relations.

A thoroughly ‘scared yet excited' Megan is all set to start her course. She reached Coimbatore on January 14 to see Pongal being celebrated. She is yet to come out of the euphoria of the three-day extended celebrations with a family of her IARD Indian counterpart Priyadarshini Murugan in Sulur.

She vows to go back to her country with the knowledge of agriculture, the Tamil language and the culture of the Tamils.

wlbkng

January 20th, 2011, 01:31 AM

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/DM/DINAMALAR/2011/01/20/Article//013/20_01_2011_013_027.jpg

wlbkng

January 20th, 2011, 01:32 AM

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/DM/DINAMALAR/2011/01/20/Article//013/20_01_2011_013_032.jpg

CBE-SINGAKUTTY

January 20th, 2011, 07:43 PM

http://65.175.77.34/maalaimalar/coimbatore/2012011/epaperimages/2012011/2012011-md-co-7/92229406.jpg

bonoslack7

January 20th, 2011, 10:42 PM

http://www.hindu.com/2011/01/21/stories/2011012161100700.htm

Tirupur, more known for its prowess in knitwear production, is also getting prominence, but for a wrong reason. Consumption of liquor in the district has been sharply rising in the last few years.

Turnover from Indian Made Foreign Liqour (IMFL) from the district, sold through 250 TASMC outlets, stood at a whopping Rs. 819.5 crore in 2010 (i.e. calendar year).

TASMAC sources told The Hindu that the district is second in the state, after Chennai, in terms of revenue earned from sale of liquor - brandy, whisky, rum and beer. Increase in sales in the last four years was a staggering Rs. 309 crore.

According to the TASMAC district unit sources, the sales picked up at a steady pace from Rs 510.5 crore in 2006 to Rs 610.2 crore in 2007, Rs. 701.5 crore in 2008, Rs. 732.9 crore in 2009 to finally touch the figure in 2010 (Rs. 819.5 crore).

Brandy is the most preferred drink followed by rum and whisky. “Brandy sales account for about 70 per cent of the overall sales since it is cheaper than the others but has a high 42.8 per cent alcohol content in it," TASMAC officials said.

Dr. K. Sakthivel, psychiatrist, District Headquarters Hospital, said the number of tipplers was on the rise mostly due to occupational stress, socio-economic problems and peer pressure. But the most worrying aspect, according to Dr. Sakthivel, is the increasing fatal accidents caused by drunken driving. The District Crime Records Bureau sources said such accidents were high on Saturdays and Sundays, after weekend drunken revelry.

The district police had registered 12,203 cases for drunken driving in 2010 alone compared to the total motor vehicle cases of 14,423 booked in 2009.

satchitananda

January 21st, 2011, 04:22 PM

Interesting new dimension on climate change.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article1106044.ece

bonoslack7

January 21st, 2011, 09:25 PM

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/draft-cdps-ready-for-eight-urban-areas/422579/

The urbanization rate was the highest for Tamil Nadu at 53 per cent followed by Gujarat and Maharashtra, the rate being 44 per cent in both the states. In Orissa, the rate of urbanization is 18 per cent and this is expected to reach 24 per cent by 2030.

bonoslack7

January 21st, 2011, 09:28 PM

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/131067/nearly-half-criminals-arrested-youths.html

Maharashtra tops the list of juvenile crimes with 6,972 arrests for various IPC and special and local law crimes, followed by Madhya Pradesh where police have apprehended 6,186 people up to 18 years of age.

Chhattisgarh is placed third with 5,112 such arrests, followed by Tamil Nadu (2,927), Gujarat (2,466) and Rajasthan (2,456).

chennaidesi

January 21st, 2011, 09:41 PM

TShyam

January 21st, 2011, 10:30 PM

So TN can no more be called Agriculture heavy state and its economy lies on cities like developed countries.:banana:

TN crossed the 50% threshold long back. Even the 53% figure seems to be a bit outdated and old. I believe the current figure to be closer to 60%.

bonoslack7

January 21st, 2011, 11:19 PM

http://www.hindu.com/2011/01/22/stories/2011012262370400.htm

The State recorded software exports to the tune of Rs. 45,181 crore during 2009-2010, Poongothai Aladi Aruna, Information Technology Minister, said on Friday.

[However, according to information available on the website of Software Technology Parks of India (STPI)-Chennai, the value of exports in the State was Rs. 36,765.53 crore.]

After handing over land allotment letters to various IT firms at Fort St. George here, she told reporters that the current year's performance was expected to be better [as the spell of economic recession was over]. Pointing out that the State had recorded the highest growth rate in the category of exports through Tier II and Tier III cities, she said the value of exports under this category went up from about Rs. 400 crore to around Rs. 900 crore. In terms of volume of exports, the State ranked second.

On the implementation of e-waste policy, P.W. C. Davidar, Principal Secretary in charge of IT Department and Santosh Babu, Managing Director of the Electronics Corporation of Tamil Nadu (ELCOT), said the State government would work in tandem with the Union government. The Centre had formulated draft guidelines, the text of which had been made available in the public domain. The Minister said the Madurai and Tirunelveli IT/IT-Enabled Services special economic zones were ready for inauguration. Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi would formally declare them open soon.

An official release stated that as part of its efforts to bring IT to Tier II cities, the ELCOT had developed IT/ITES SEZ Parks in Viswanathapuram village (174.47 acres) of Hosur and Jagirammapalayam village (164.26 acres) of Salem.

In Hosur, work on the creation of infrastructure was under way at an estimated cost of Rs. 24 crore and the total investment proposed by the ELCOT was Rs. 48 crore. Besides, the Corporation was building a building of 50,000 sq. ft. at an estimated cost of Rs. 13.74 crore. Twenty seven acres were allotted to six companies.

In Salem, work on infrastructure establishment was in progress at a cost of Rs. 9.43 crore and the total proposed investment was Rs. 33 crore.

Five and a half acres were given to two companies. Already, six acres had been allotted to two firms in Salem.

The Hosur IT SEZ was expected to draw an investment of Rs. 2,000 crore and the Salem SEZ Rs. 800 crore, the release added.

bonoslack7

January 22nd, 2011, 12:47 AM

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/state-tops-attacks-women-311

West Bengal has got the sad record of being the most suicide prone state in the country with 14,648 people taking their lives in 2009.

AP follows just behind with 14,500, Tamil Nadu with 14,424 , Maharashtra with 14,300 and Karnataka with 12,195.

kongutamizhan

January 22nd, 2011, 01:54 AM

wlbkng

January 22nd, 2011, 02:46 AM

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/01/22/20110122a_004101002.jpg

chennaidesi

January 22nd, 2011, 04:07 AM

ChennaiIndian

January 22nd, 2011, 05:05 AM

http://www.picoolio.com/photos/medium/24309-2fhw2.jpg

Arul Murugan

January 22nd, 2011, 05:34 AM

chennaidesi

January 22nd, 2011, 07:04 AM

True , I cant believe he spoke that in CII meet when all expert are there.

ChennaiIndian

January 22nd, 2011, 08:42 AM

Is really Tamilnadu no.1 in manufacturing? when MH contributes 18% and GJ contributes 12% to India's manufacturing output, how come 8% contributor TN which is in 3rd place can become as no.1

Can't DCM tell real facts without fooling the people around? or the data's available in online is wrong?
He is talking about the TN that existed during Raja Raja Cholan when the Tamil kingdom was a regional superpower. :lol:

ChennaiIndian

January 22nd, 2011, 08:45 AM

Loyola college survey predicts landslide victory (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=325:-----j&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2) for ADMK.

They give ADMK alliance 180-185+ and DMK alliance 50-55

I still remember how DMK with Sun TV News made a big fuss out of the Loyola survey in the previous Assembly elections. Now they are like "Satti suttadhada...". :lol:

bonoslack7

January 22nd, 2011, 08:50 AM

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?270152

Leo_r

January 22nd, 2011, 09:58 AM

Is really Tamilnadu no.1 in manufacturing? when MH contributes 18% and GJ contributes 12% to India's manufacturing output, how come 8% contributor TN which is in 3rd place can become as no.1

Can't DCM tell real facts without fooling the people around? or the data's available in online is wrong?

Muthalidam-Munnodi-Muthalnilai ; different words convey diff. .meaning.''

Munnodi' for TN is okay and acceptable. Let JJ try for 'muthalidam'.

Arul Murugan

January 22nd, 2011, 12:18 PM

Muthalidam-Munnodi-Muthalnilai ; different words convey diff. .meaning.''

Munnodi' for TN is okay and acceptable. Let JJ try for 'muthalidam'.

even all three will be okay for TN. But presently no way TN is muthalidam as covered in the ruling party media in manufacturing.

bonoslack7

January 23rd, 2011, 07:49 AM

hi..can anyone tell me the advantages if state gov. has no debt at all?

Leo_r

January 23rd, 2011, 10:45 AM

^^
No outgo on interest payment. Then it will be like risk averse middle class in TN. Capital expenditure will be limited to surplus fund and progress will take a beating.

Look at People who enjoy life liberally..Invariably, they will be in Business, leveraging a lot and using other's funds.

Prime examble. USA. 14 Trillions in Debt.

TShyam

January 23rd, 2011, 11:34 AM

hi..can anyone tell me the advantages if state gov. has no debt at all?

It is the same reason why you dont sink into debt yourself. If the SG's and CG decided to act responsibly, there wont be any inflation as there wont be any need to print extra money out of thin air.

@Leo: The idea that government has to go into debt for public expenditure is itself a farce. Infact its the other way round. Higher your surplus, higher your ability to make productive investment. You have to just look at the corporates. Do they run profits or losses?

Why are taking the example of US? You can as well take the example of Ireland of Greece. Not much is different between these. The only difference is that US is an issuer or reserve currency hence benefiting from the largesse of China and Japan. These countries with trillions of dollars invest back in the US thereby suppressing the interest rate. US can borrow at 2-3%. Can we?

CBE-SINGAKUTTY

January 23rd, 2011, 03:22 PM

http://65.175.77.34/maalaimalar/coimbatore/2312011/epaperimages/2312011/2312011-md-co-5/102657890_1.jpg

kongutamizhan

January 23rd, 2011, 05:46 PM

For those who support Stalin, this is what his leadership quality is:(

Overall a disappointing attitude from both the Central and State government

http://idlyvadai.blogspot.com/2011/01/23-01-11.html

செய்தி # 2

ஆளும் கட்சியை இது கடுமையாக விமர்சிக்கபோகின்ற செய்தி.

திமுகவின் தேர்தல் அறிக்கையில் குறிப்பிடப்பட்ட...முதன்மையானதும், முதலில் நிறைவேற்ற வேண்டியதுமான "தென்னக நதிகள் இணைப்பு திட்டம்" கிடப்பில் போடப்பட்டது குறித்து சட்டசபையில் யாரும் கேள்வி கேட்கவும் இல்லை...விளக்கம் சொல்லவும் இல்லை.

ஆளும் கட்சி ஆதரவு சானல்களை தவிர்த்து பாருங்கள். ஒவ்வொரு வாரமும் தவறாமல் நம் தமிழக மீனவர்கள் மீது தாக்குதல்கள் நடைபெற்றுக்கொண்டே இருப்பது உங்களுக்கு தெரியவரும். எதோ ஒரு அன்றாட நிகழ்வு போல ஆகிவிட்டது...நமது மீனவர்களின் படகுகளை உடைப்பதும், வலைகளை அறுப்பதும், அப்பாவி மீனவர்களை தாக்குவதும்...இலங்கை கடற்படையினருக்கு.

இதன் உச்ச கட்டமாக அவ்வபோது மீனவர்களை அவர்கள் சுட்டுக்கொல்வதும் உண்டு. சென்ற வாரம் புதுக்கோட்டை மீனவர் பாண்டியன் என்பவர் இலங்கை கடற்படையினரால் சுட்டுகொல்லபட்டது உங்களுக்கு தெரியும்.

இதை இலங்கை கடற்படை செய்யவில்லை என்று மறுத்து இருக்கிறார் அதிபர் ராஜபக்ஷே. பின்னர் வேறு யார் இதை செய்து இருப்பார்கள்..இலங்கையின் அதிரடிப்படையா?

மீனவர் பாண்டியன் கொல்லப்பட்டதும், ஒட்டுமொத்த மீனவ சமுதாயமும் வெடித்து கிளம்பி இருக்கவேண்டுமே....அரசுகளின் கவனத்தை ஈர்க்கும் ஒரு பெரும் போராட்டத்தை அவர்கள் நடத்தி இருக்கவேண்டுமே.

ஆனால், இத்தனை முறைகள் அவர்கள் தாக்கப்பட்டும் அப்படி ஒரு போராட்டத்தை அவர்கள் செய்யமுடியாத அளவுக்கு, சாதி, மத, இன, அரசியல் ரீதியான பிளவுகள் அவர்களுக்கு உள்ளே இருக்கிறது என்று எனக்கு தோன்றுகிறது.

பொதுவான, மாநிலம் தழுவிய ஒரு போராட்டமாக இல்லாமல், ஒரு குறுகிய பகுதி அளவில் மட்டும் இருக்கிறது அவர்கள் போராட்டங்கள்.

மீனவர் படுகொலை சம்பந்தமாக சிறப்பு கவன ஈர்ப்பு தீர்மானம் சட்ட மன்ற கூட்டத்தொடரில் கொண்டு வரப்பட்டது.

அதற்க்கு, பதில் அளித்த கருணாநிதி மீனவர் குடும்பத்திற்கு 5 லட்ச ருபாய் நிவாரணம் வழங்கப்படும் என்றார்.

அவ்வளவுதான் அவர் கடமை முடிந்துவிட்டது. மீனவர்களும் இத்துடன் அமைதி அடைந்துவிடுவார்கள்.

உள்துறை அமைச்சர் ஸ்டாலின் " மீனவர்கள் மீது அவ்வபோது நடக்கும் தாக்குதல்கள் எனக்கு வேதனை அளிக்கிறது" என்று சொன்னார்.

அய்யா ஸ்டாலின் அவர்களே, நீங்கள் இப்படி பேசியதுதான் எங்களுக்கு வேதனையை இருக்கிறது. வேதனை படுவதர்க்குதான் நாங்கள் இருக்கிறோம்.இது போன்ற கொடுமைகளை தடுத்து நிறுத்தவேண்டிய இடத்தில், பொறுப்பான பதவியில் நீங்கள் இருக்கிறீர்கள்.

மத்திய அமைச்சர் எஸ். எம். கிருஷ்ணா இது சமபந்தமாக இலங்கை அரசுக்கு கண்டனம் தெரிவித்தாராம்...அதுவும் கருணாநிதியின் வேண்டுகோளை ஏற்று. நான்றாக இந்த வார்த்தையை கவனியுங்கள்...முதல்வர் கருணாநிதியின் வேண்டுகோளை ஏற்று அவர் கண்டனம் தெரிவித்தார்.

"ஒரு அப்பாவி இந்தியன் அயல்நாட்டுநாட்டு கடற்படையால் சுட்டுகொல்லபட்டு இருக்கிறான்".

ஏன் உள்துறை அமைச்சகம் உடனே கடுமையான நடவடிக்கையில் இறங்கவில்லை? கருணாநிதி சொல்லித்தான் அவர்கள் கண்டன அறிக்கை வெளியிடவேண்டுமா?

ஏன், தமிழ்நாடு இந்தியாவில் இல்லையா? நாம் எல்லாம் இந்தியர்கள் இல்லையா?

அமிதாப்பச்சன் வீட்டுக்கு முன்னால் மழைநீர் தேங்கி நிற்பதையும்,தீபிகா படுகோனே, சித்தார்த் மல்லையாவுக்கு 'கிஸ்' கொடுத்ததையும் சொன்ன கேடு கெட்ட வடஇந்திய சானல்கள், ஏன் ஒரு அப்பாவி இந்தியனின் படுகொலை பற்றி ஒரு சிறுசெய்தி கூட வெளியிடவில்லை?

தமிழ் பேசுபவர்கள் எல்லாம் விடுதலைபுலிகளா? வந்தே மாதரம், ஜெய் ஹிந்த் எல்லாம் வெறும் கோஷங்களா?

"மத்திய அரசு , டெல்லி போன்ற சில மாநிலங்களை தவிர வேறு மாநிலங்களை திரும்பிகூட பார்ப்பதில்லை" என்று சொன்னார் ஒரு நக்சல்பாரி இயக்க தலைவர். நக்சலைட்டுகள் பக்கம் பெரும் நியாயம் இருப்பதாகவே எனக்கு படுகிறது.

பின்னே, மத்தியில் இத்தனை செல்வாக்கு உள்ள நமக்கே இந்த மெத்தனம் என்றால், வட கிழக்கு மாநிலங்களை நினைத்துபாருங்கள்.

அறிக்கை விடுவது, கண்டனம் தெரிவிப்பது, பேச்சு வார்த்தை நடத்துவது எல்லாம் இருக்கட்டும். இந்திய மீனவர்கள் மீதான தாக்குதல்களுக்கு முடிவு எப்போது? நிரந்திர தீர்வு எப்போது?

காவேரி நதிநீர் பிரச்சினையில் தமிழகத்திற்கு உரிய நியாயம் எப்போது கிடைக்கும்? சொந்த நாடே அதன் மக்களுக்கு இழைத்த அநீதியின் சின்னமாக இருக்கும் கச்சதீவில் நமக்கு உரிய உரிமை எப்போது நிலைநாட்டப்படும்?

இப்படியெல்லாம் துணிச்சலுடன் கேள்விகள் கேட்க ஒரு முதுகெலும்பு உள்ள தலைமை இல்லாமல் நாதியத்து கிடக்கிறோம் நாம்.... இலங்கையில் மட்டும் அல்ல...இந்தியாவிலும்தான்.

Leo_r

January 23rd, 2011, 07:30 PM

The idea that government has to go into debt for public expenditure is itself a farce. Infact its the other way round. Higher your surplus, higher your ability to make productive investment. You have to just look at the corporates. Do they run profits or losses?

I am talking about 'Capital Expenditure' and not using debt for Public(Revenue) expenditure. That is the most inefficient way of using debt.(many Govts do that)

Every successful Corporate will have a sound borrowing program. Tata Steel can not acquire Corus or Airtel can not acquire MTN or Indigo Air can not order 180 A320 planes from their own funds and for that matter "Banks" can not exist without a borrower, Even a small business borrower will be welcomed with a cup of Coffee ,bur a creditor like Public will get a cold look.

Same way Govts can not implement huge Capital projects without borrowing. A good Finance Minister should know all the tricks of sourcing funds.

But borrowing should be limited to the Servicing ability; otherwise it will result in "Default"

At $14 trillion, US govt debt surges to all-time high

Already, both sides are blaming each other for an approaching economic mess as Washington wrestles over how to keep the government in business and avoid default on global financial obligations

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/at-14-trillion-us-govt-debt-surges-to-all-time-high/articleshow/7296859.cms

What US can do if China dumps its debt...

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/what-us-can-do-if-china-dumps-its-debt/articleshow/7329020.cms

TShyam

January 23rd, 2011, 10:57 PM

I am talking about 'Capital Expenditure' and not using debt for Public(Revenue) expenditure. That is the most inefficient way of using debt.(many Govts do that)

All governments do that. If it curtails non productive expenditure (bureaucracy, subsidies, schemes like NREGA), it will automatically have more money for productive expenditure.

Every successful Corporate will have a sound borrowing program. Tata Steel can not acquire Corus or Airtel can not acquire MTN or Indigo Air can not order 180 A320 planes from their own funds and for that matter

Same way Govts can not implement huge Capital projects without borrowing. A good Finance Minister should know all the tricks of sourcing funds.

Curiously if you look at all the productive investment our government is doing (golden quad and other road works, most of the UMPP's, Metros, airports etc), you will find it is not the government which is taking the loans (or the major spender). Most of its money is actually invested by the private sector. I am not against debt per se. Infact it is good from a strategic point of view. But our governments are in perpetual debt. If you acquire debt, you should try to annul it. Running consecutive budget deficits is not how you do it.

And you cannot compare private company taking debt to government taking debt (i brought in corporates to show that budget deficit whose equivalent is "loss" in corporate world is a bad thing). Unlike private companies, governments have the capacity to print money (which being the easier way out, almost always use it) which leads to inflation. Another way of saying it is if a private company takes debt, the shareholders pay it back. If the government takes debt, the whole country pays it back (either through inflation or through taxes).

"Banks" can not exist without a borrower, Even a small business borrower will be welcomed with a cup of Coffee ,bur a creditor like Public will get a cold look.

Banks are to bridge short term mismatch of supply and demand of capital for an entity. Some entities have a supply surplus and some entities have demand surplus at the same time and banks are the channels to bridge the two. Again I repeat that I am not against the concept of lending and borrowing. World cannot function without that. But every entity should aim to annul that mismatch. If a government takes on debt, its aim should be to pay it back.

Infact if you go back to Bono's original question, "the advantages if state gov. has no debt at all?" Ability to take in more debt is the biggest advantage of having no debt at all. Thats my whole point. Debt is negative net worth. There is no excuse to glorify it.

But borrowing should be limited to the Servicing ability; otherwise it will result in "Default"
Obvious.

At $14 trillion, US govt debt surges to all-time high

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/at-14-trillion-us-govt-debt-surges-to-all-time-high/articleshow/7296859.cms

What US can do if China dumps its debt...

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/what-us-can-do-if-china-dumps-its-debt/articleshow/7329020.cms

These show US in a bad light right? They have to inflate out of it.

bonoslack7

January 24th, 2011, 12:15 AM

thanks for clearing doubt,leo and shyam.

bonoslack7

January 24th, 2011, 12:18 AM

http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4831209

It was a wake-up call for India Inc, recalls Jamshed J Irani, Director, Tata Sons, when in early 2006, the then Minister for Social Justice and Empowerment and the Congress party's Dalit face, Meira Kumar, started meeting top CEOs to seek their support for a legislation on employment reservation for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in the private sector. In an interview with The Indian Express some time back, Irani who leads the affirmative action plan in the Tata Group that employs some 3.75 lakh people—tacitly admitted that the corporate sector had not quite consciously worked to mainstream the idea till five years ago.

To create more jobs for SCs and STs, Meira Kumar said there was no third way besides voluntary action by India Inc. or a legislation mandating reservation. The idea of a statute gained political traction in the first term of the United Progressive Alliance government, particularly with the Left demanding that the industry play a leading role in empowering the less privileged—the SCs and STs—who account for almost a quarter of the country's population.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was, however, more subtle in his message to India Inc. In his address to corporate honchos at the annual meeting of the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) on April 18, 2006, he asked the industry to assess, at the company level, the diversity in its employee profile and voluntarily commit to broad-base it.

Almost five years later, the CII, India's largest industry chamber, undertook the first-ever caste census of its member firms--numbering 8,250 and employing 35 lakh--across the country. This, arguably, is also representative of India Inc. The survey, at first glance, shows the private sector in poor light, especially in states like Maharashtra, Gujarat and Karnataka, if one looks at its results from a narrow prism of the share of SC/STs in the workforce compared with their strength in the total population. In these two regions, SCs/STs are just about 16 per cent of the workforce. In the northern and eastern regions, they are 22 per cent and 24 per cent, respectively, reflecting the average national

SC/ST population.

With the threat of a legislation looking real, the corporate sector's response, according to Irani, was two-fold, and he explained this in detail to the Prime Minister. "It (quotas) is not really going to help them. Corporate India could challenge it, but would like to avoid this situation. So, let us cooperate. The CII and others will cooperate with the government on affirmative action and this will bring more benefit to SC/STs." The government saw merit in the argument, and in the last five years, India Inc has made progress, but just enough to keep the government off from passing a law.

"If you ask me, if I am satisfied, the answer is 'no'. But the progress is better that what it was four years ago," says Irani, who kick-started a sensitisation drive among the CII members as the first chairman of the CII Affirmative Action Council. He undertook an all-India tour from Delhi to Bangalore, talking to all companies, enthusing them to see candidates from the disadvantaged sections with a positive bias.

"Within the Tata Group, we saw it as the right thing to do. So, we have a positive discrimination policy. That is, we prefer a disadvantaged community candidate," he says. Like Tatas, there are others, including Thermax, Maruti, Forbes and Mahindras, who have taken affirmative action seriously...

AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, FEW BUYERS

...but the corporate sector is not just a handful of companies. It is hugely divided on the very idea of affirmative action. Sanjeev Bikhchandani, founder and Executive Vice Chairman of naukri.com, a portal which offers a 24.3-million strong database of searchable resumes to job providers, says: "Affirmative action has not really caught on in India. Most private sector companies, at best, regard this as a part of their corporate social responsibility. There are multinational companies that look specifically for women candidates. In fact, some of them have a target too. But caste-based recruitment is not mainstream yet."

The CII's caste census also bears it out. Maharashtra, Gujarat, Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and West Bengal, some of the most industrialised states, show a sharp mismatch between SC/STs as a percentage of the total workforce in the private sector and SC/STs as a percentage of the state's population. In Maharashtra, SCs and STs make up 19.1 per cent of the total state population, but their share in private sector employment is only 5 per cent. In Gujarat and Karnataka, SCs and STs constitute just 9 per cent of the staff strength, but account for 22 per cent and 23 per cent, respectively, of the state population. Ironically enough, these are the states that rank high in the pecking order, both in terms of the number of factories and employment. The only exception is Tamil Nadu, which ranks number one in industrialisation and employment and where SC/STs account for almost 18 per cent of the industrial workforce and 20 per cent of the state's population.

The states in east India, where jobs are far and few, have the highest percentage of SC/STs. So, in Bihar, which has little to show in terms of industrialisation, SCs and STs constitute a fourth of the total workforce, much higher than their 16.6 per cent share in the state's population. Similarly, the private sector in Chhattisgarh has almost half its workforce from the SC/ST community, comparable to their strength in population (See map).

SERVICES, THE SILVER LINING

Services today account for almost 60 per cent of the country's economy. In Maharashtra, according to the same CII survey, banks, financial institutions and information technology or software services companies contribute almost 18 per cent to the total employment. And within services, SC/STs account for a quarter of the total workforce. "Most private sector is caste and religion agnostic," says K Ramkumar, Executive Director, ICICI Bank, who is responsible for human resources in the country's largest private sector bank. "In Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu and Karnataka, a lot more people are eligible to apply for jobs because they are graduates," he says.

Down south, barring Karnataka, private sector in the other three states— Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and Kerala— can pull their collars up. Infosys board member Mohandas Pai, who is responsible for human resources in the most-celebrated software company, says, "If you look at fresh hiring at Infosys, much of it is from the disadvantaged section. Both the parents of 17 per cent of our fresh hires in Mysore are non-graduates. Almost 40 per cent of these hires had only one graduate parent." A silent revolution seems to be happening from the bottom. "And this is happening in high-paying jobs, going right up to the top," says Pai.

Indeed, according to the CII survey, in all four southern states combined, the share of SC/STs among trainees in the IT and IT-enabled services sector is 10 per cent of the total trainee strength. If you look at the total employee stock across all levels of management, then it is only 5 per cent. IT and ITeS account for 26 per cent of the total employment in southern India and CII members alone employ about 1.5 lakh in the region.

DRAWING THE RIGHT LESSONS

Manish Sabharwal, Chairman, TeamLease Services Ltd, the country's biggest player in the temporary staffing industry, notes that the only macro economic variable that has stayed where it was in 1991 is the high proportion of labour force in the unorganised sector—at 93 per cent. "The organised sector that accounts for a mere 7 per cent of the labour force enjoys disproportionately the fruits of higher incomes. Economic reforms, at the end of the day, is not just about goofy rich guys buying Mercedes."

Sabharwal and Infosys' Pai are least surprised by India Inc's good show in Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh. These two states have blended huge capacities in higher education with generous scholarships. "Tamil Nadu's 300 colleges have 1,20,000 seats. A larger proportion of disadvantaged population goes through colleges," says Pai. "Even Karnataka has reservation, but the key is to create large capacities. Otherwise, even from the SC/ST communities, the upward layers crowd out capacities," he points out. That, in a way, explains the private sector's poor show in affirmative action in Karnataka.

Uttar Pradesh, in another 10 years, will fare better than most other states. Mayawati has started 270 engineering colleges this year. The UP Technical University has added 1,00,000 seats in the last three years. "But the Ayatollahs of education have tried to control quality by controlling quantity," says Sabharwal.

All this is not to say that India Inc is doing a great job on affirmative action. "But in board rooms, there is serious awareness today," says Ramkumar, who sits on the board of ICICI Bank. Only better education and skill development will expand the catchment area for SC/ST recruitment. In India, there is no shortage of jobs, only a scarcity of qualified people.

bonoslack7

January 24th, 2011, 01:24 AM

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Chennai-tops-the-list-of-failed-love-suicides/articleshow/7350621.cms

Are we in the land of brokenhearted lads and lasses who love ... to die? Seems so.

Going by the count of the National Crime Records Bureau for 2009, Chennai tops the list of cities where maximum number of people committed suicide because of love failures. And the city contributed 15% to the total number of suicides fuelled by love — or the lack of it — in the country. Close on the heels of Chennai in the list of 35 cities are Delhi and Bangalore.

As a state, Tamil Nadu ranks second and looks up to West Bengal sitting at the top of the love-led suicides chart. The bureau records say that on an average, India sees 10 suicides born out of affairs, and most of the victims fall in the age bracket of 15 to 29.

Experts say that it can be because youngsters break their head, and eventually heart, over fleeting relationships. Peer pressure is also forcing them to be in relationships.

"Generally, in Tamil Nadu and in Chennai a lot of value is attached to relationships and in case of a love failure, young people tend to think it is the end of life," says Dr S Abhilasha, a psychotherapist. She is the founder of Aarudhal Charitable trust, a psychological counselling and suicide prevention centre in the city.

Abhilasha says since Chennai is more conservative compared to other cities, failure in love affects youngsters more severely than in other cities. "It is also seen that more boys than girls commit suicide because of love failures as they do not have an emotional vent and do not share their pain with anyone. Just talking to someone close or sharing your feelings can help fight depression but most boys do not do this," she says. "Love-lorn boys are also prone to do drugs or take their lives."

Dr Lakshmi Vijayakumar, founder of SNEHA, a suicide prevention helpline in the city, explains why people in the south, compared to the north, have a self-harm problem.

"We have observed that people in the north are more aggressive and this aggressiveness is directed towards others. Which is probably why while the south tops when it comes to suicides, more cases of rapes and murders are reported from the north," she says.

In order to address this issue, Dr Abhilasha says that professional intervention and an emotional support system were very important for young people to give a vent to their feelings. "Media also plays a huge role in this and our movies ought to stop portraying love as the be-all-and-end-all of life," she says.

In Chennai, the there is just one government-run helpline for the depressed at Government Royapettah Hospital.

wlbkng

January 24th, 2011, 03:16 AM

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/DM/DINAMALAR/2011/01/24/Article//157/24_01_2011_157_026.jpg

Enna kodumai sir idhu :(

Brand coimbatore

January 24th, 2011, 03:51 AM

bonoslack7

January 24th, 2011, 03:59 AM

I guess its high time tn gov. adopts telugu as the third optional language in chennai...there are more telugu migrants than hindi ppl in chennai, and ban hindi which has no practical value in the state.

ChennaiIndian

January 24th, 2011, 05:49 AM

This is not a sole issue, now a days I find a lot of central govt advertisements in tamil channels in full hindi version. Recently the polio add was fully in hindi, I dont understand what is the motto of them? Also I found in the chennai city,koyembedu flyover hindi sign boards - what is the necessity for hindi in the city ?
Let them have Hindi. However the disappearance of Tamil in train ticket printings and others is a serious concern.

The so-called Tamil protectionists were in power at the Centre when these changes happened. :D :D

Sampathkumar

January 24th, 2011, 10:41 AM

:bash::bash:
இலங்கைக் கடற்படையால் கடந்த 12-ம் தேதி ஒரு மீனவர் சுட்டுக் கொல்லப்பட்டார். சரியாக பத்து நாள்கள் முடியவில்லை. அதற்குள் நாகை மாவட்டம், புஷ்பவனத்தைச் சேர்ந்த மீனவர் ஜெயக்குமாரை இலங்கைக் கடற்படை கழுத்தை நெரித்துக் கொன்றிருக்கிறது.

வழக்கம்போல மத்திய வெளியுறவுத் துறை அமைச்சர் இலங்கை அரசுக்குக் கண்டனம் தெரிவித்து, கடற்படையின் அத்துமீறலைக் கட்டுப்படுத்துங்கள் என்று கேட்டுக் கொண்டுள்ளார். வழக்கம்போல தமிழக அரசும் இறந்த மீனவரின் குடும்பத்துக்கு ரூ. 5 லட்சம் அறிவித்துள்ளது. வழக்கம்போல, இலங்கைக் கடற்படையும் இந்த மரணத்துக்கு நாங்கள் காரணமல்ல என்று கூறியுள்ளது. அப்படியானால் யார்தான் காரணம்? மீனவர் ஜெயக்குமார் வானத்தில் கயிறு மாட்டி தூக்கிட்டுக் கொண்டார் என்று சொல்லுமா இலங்கைக் கடற்படை?

அரபிக் கடலில் இந்திய-பாகிஸ்தான் கடல் எல்லையில் இந்திய மீனவர்கள் பாகிஸ்தான் ராணுவத்தால் சுட்டுக் கொல்லப்படுவதாகச் செய்திகள் வருவதில்லை.

அதேபோன்று வங்கக் கடலோரம் வங்கதேசப் பகுதியில் மீன் பிடித்தார்கள் என்று மேற்குவங்க மாநில மீனவர்கள் இறப்பதாகவும் செய்திகள் இல்லை. ஆனால், தொடர்ந்து தமிழக மீனவர்கள் மட்டுமே இலங்கைக் கடற்படையால் சுட்டுக் கொல்லப்பட்டு வருகின்றனரே, இது ஏன்? எப்படி?

விடுதலைப் புலிகள் முழு பலத்துடன் இலங்கையை எதிர்த்துக் கொண்டிருந்த நேரத்தில் தமிழக மீனவர்கள் கடலில் சுட்டுக் கொல்லப்பட்ட வேளையில் சொல்லப்பட்ட ஒரே காரணம், இந்த மீனவர்கள் விடுதலைப் புலிகளுக்கான இன்றியமையாப் பொருள்களை, மருந்துகளை, பெட்ரோல், டீசலை கொண்டு சென்றனர் என்பதாகவே இருந்தது. ஆனால், இப்போது இலங்கையில் விடுதலைப் புலிகளே இல்லை, அவர்களை முற்றிலுமாக அழித்து விட்டோம் என்று இலங்கை அரசே வாக்குமூலம் வழங்கிவிட்டிருக்கும் நிலையில் நமது அப்பாவி மீனவர்கள் கொல்லப்படுவதன் காரணம்தான் என்ன?

யாழ்ப்பாணத்துக்கு வந்து பொங்கல் பண்டிகையில் கலந்துகொள்கிறார் இலங்கை அதிபர் ராஜபட்ச. யாழ்ப்பாணத்தில் அமைதி நிலவுகிறது என்பதன் இன்னொரு அடையாளமாகஅங்கே அண்மையில் இந்தியன் வங்கி தனது அயல்நாட்டுக் கிளையைத் திறந்திருக்கிறது. இன்னும் நிறைய வங்கிகள் தங்கள் கிளையைத் திறக்கவுள்ளன என்றும் அறிவிக்கப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. அந்த அளவுக்கு மாறுதல் ஏற்பட்டுவிட்ட பிறகும், இந்திய மீனவர்கள் கடல் எல்லையைக் கடப்பது நிகழ்ந்தாலும் அது எந்த உள்நோக்கமும் இல்லாமல், மீன்பிடிக்கும் ஆர்வத்தில் எல்லை கடந்ததாக இருக்குமே தவிர, வேறு எந்தவித காரணங்களுக்காகவும் இருக்க முடியாதே! பிறகும் அவர்கள் கொல்லப்படுவதன் காரணம் என்ன? தமிழர்கள்மீதான வெறுப்பா, இல்லை இந்திய அரசு எதுவும் செய்யாது என்கிற நினைப்பா?

தமிழக மீனவர்கள் எல்லை கடக்காமல் இருக்கும்படிச் செய்வதற்கான அறிவியல் கருவிகளை அளிக்க வேண்டும் என்பதும், கரையிலிருந்து குறிப்பிட்ட கடல் மைல்களைத் தாண்டும்போது எச்சரிக்கை மணியோசை கூடிய பிரத்யேகமான ஒலிப்பான்களைப்படகுகளில் நிறுவுவதும் இத்தகைய சம்பவங்கள் நிகழாமல் தடுக்க உதவும். ஆனால்,தமிழக அரசு இதுவரை அப்படி எந்த நடவடிக்கையும் எடுக்கவில்லை. மத்திய அரசாவது அதற்காக முயற்சிகளை ஊக்குவித்ததா என்றால் இல்லை. அப்படியானால், செத்தால் சாகட்டும் என்கிற அக்கறையின்மையா?

கடந்த 12-ம் தேதி இலங்கைப் படையால் சுடப்பட்டு தமிழக மீனவர் இறந்தபோது சட்டப்பேரவையிலேயே இதுகுறித்து பேசப்பட்டது. இந்தியக் கடல் எல்லையை மீனவர் கடக்காதபடி, ஒளிரும் விளக்குகள் கொண்ட மிதவைகளை -அவை நகராதபடி நங்கூரம் பாய்ச்சி- மிதக்கவிடுவதாக அரசு அறிவித்தபடி செய்திருக்கலாமே, ஏன் செய்யவில்லை?

சபரிமலை விபத்தின்போது, மலையில் எவ்வளவு நெரிசல் இருக்கிறது என்பதை செயற்கைக்கோள் படங்களை மூலம் அளித்து உதவிடத் தயார் என்று அறிவித்த இஸ்ரோ,கடல்எல்லையில் ராணுவ வீரர்களின் அத்துமீறலையும் செயற்கைக்கோள் உதவியுடன் படம்பிடித்துக் கொடுக்க முடியும். இலங்கை - இந்தியக் கடல் எல்லை என்பது மிகக் குறுகிய தொலைவுதான். இப்பகுதியில்இந்தியக் கடற்படையின் கப்பல் நிலையாக நிறுத்தப்பட்டு, வானுயர்ந்த பலூன்களில் சக்திவாய்ந்த கேமிராக்களைப் பொருத்தி, பல மைல் தூரத்துக்குக் கண்காணிப்பதும் சுலபம். நவீன உலகில் இவற்றைக் கண்காணிக்க, தடுக்க நிறைய வசதி, வாய்ப்புகள் உள்ளன. இதிலெல்லாம் தமிழக அரசும் மத்திய அரசும் அக்கறை காட்டவில்லையே, ஏன்?

விடுதலைப் புலிகளுக்கு எதிராக ராஜபட்ச அரசு தாக்குதல் நடத்தத் தொடங்கியது முதல் இந்திய அரசியல் போக்கில் ஒரு மிகப்பெரிய மாறுதல் ஏற்படத் தொடங்கியது. இலங்கை அரசு எது செய்தாலும் அதை ஆதரிப்பது, தவறு செய்தால் கண்களை மூடிக் கொள்வது என்கிற மத்திய அரசின் போக்குக்கு என்ன காரணம் என்பது புரியவில்லை. தமிழிலும் இசைக்கப்பட்ட இலங்கையின் தேசிய கீதம் எந்தவிதக் காரணமும் இல்லாமல் ரத்து செய்யப்பட்டபோதுகூட, இலங்கைத் தமிழர்களுக்காக நீலிக்கண்ணீர் வடிக்கும் நமது மத்திய, மாநில அரசுகள் மௌனம் சாதித்தனவே தவிர, எச்சரிக்கைக் குரல்கூட எழுப்பவில்லை.

தொடர்ந்து மீனவர்கள் கொல்லப்பட்டு வருகிறார்கள். தமிழக அரசு கடிதம் எழுதுகிறது. முதல்வர் வேண்டுகோள் விடுக்கிறார். மத்திய அரசு எச்சரிக்கை செய்வதாக அறிவிக்கிறது. அத்தோடு பிரச்னை கைகழுவப்படுகிறது.

மத்திய அரசு நியாயமாக என்ன செய்ய வேண்டும்? இலங்கை அதிபர் ராஜபட்சவைஇந்தியப் பிரதமர் நேரில் அழைத்து எச்சரிக்க அல்லவா வேண்டும்? பலமுறை இலங்கைத் தூதரிடமும், வெளியுறவுத்துறை அமைச்சர் மூலமும் வேண்டுகோள், எச்சரிக்கை என்று விடுத்தும் பயனில்லாத நிலையில் அதுவல்லவா அடுத்த முடிவாக இருக்கும். ஆனாலும் தயங்குகிறார்கள்.

பயப்படுகிறார்கள். வலிமை மிகுந்த இந்தியா குட்டி இலங்கையிடம் பயப்படுகிறதே, ஏன்?

அவரவர் குடும்பத்தில் ஒருவர் மீன் பிடிக்கப்போய் சுட்டுக் கொல்லப்பட்டிருந்தால்தான் இவர்களுக்கு அதன் வலி தெரியும்! கொல்லப்படும் மீனவர்களின் குடும்பமும் ஒரு குடும்பம்தான் என்பது ஏன் நமது ஆட்சியாளர்களுக்கு மறந்து விடுகிறது?

எதையுமே செய்யாமல், எதையுமே கேட்டுப் பெறாமல் தமிழக அரசு கடிதம் எழுதுகிறது. கொல்லப்பட்டவர்கள் குடும்பத்துக்கு ரூ.5 லட்சம் வழங்குகிறது. தேர்தல் காலச் சாவு என்றால் அதிக நிதி கிடைக்கிறது. ஆனால், நீதி கிடைப்பது எப்போது?

:bash::bash::bash:MK :bash::bash::bash:

http://www.dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Editorial&artid=365868&SectionID=132&MainSectionID=132&SEO=&Title=

TShyam

January 24th, 2011, 01:33 PM

satchitananda

January 24th, 2011, 03:19 PM

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/variety-of-factors-behind-price-rise-chidambaram/articleshow/7343646.cms

Attributing the price rise to a variety of factors including the international trends, Union Home Minister P Chidambaram today said "it is difficult to explain" to the people the reasons for price hike .

"Sometimes, price of certain commodities, such as sugarcane, goes up when their their procurement price is increased. Some commodities such as petrol reflect the international prices whereas the others are based on demand-supply gap, like onion," he said here.

In his address at the release of the book 'Global Crisis, Recession and Uneven Recovery,' written by former Governor of Reserve Bank of India Dr Y V Reddy, Chidambaram, however, said the aforesaid issues could not be explained to the people.

"We cannot tell (these things) to the people. It is difficult to explain," he said. :bash:

However, inflation and such issues were part of the country's growth.

"There are ups and downs but we are building a stronger and more prosperous India, which will hold out more hope", he said, adding the Centre was taking steps to mitigate the price rise situation.

On recession and the global crisis, he said India had managed to see off the situation, thanks to the planning and steps taken by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission Montek Singh Ahluwalia and Reddy, who was the RBI Governor during those times.

He also said India's central bankers, including Dr Reddy, and previous RBI chiefs were persons of outstanding integrity.

The book is a sequel to his 'India and the Global Financial Crisis: Managing Money and Finance,' and provides a policymaker's understanding of the progression and impact of the financial crisis and the lessons it offered, a release said.

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Mr PC.. no matter how you glorify Inflation, it doesnt help a growing nation like India. Also you sure have the audacity to tell that you cannot tell people why its happening. Are people that dumb or you think you are the only one who can u'stand economics. :bash:

We got TShyam to demystify this.. hehe

I simply cannot digest that the brillant think tank of Dr MMS, PC, Pranab, Montek Singh etc still cannot wake up and focus on stemming Inflation. In US, with all their wierd monetary policies, the # 1 fear is always about inflation.

TShyam

January 24th, 2011, 05:01 PM

If inflation is a sign of growth as our esteemed triumvirate claims, then Zimbabwe and Yugoslavia should have some of the richest people on earth. Everyone there are trillionaires.

Demand supply explains why onion which was 25 a month ago is 40 rupees now. It does not explain why a dosa cost 2 anna 50 years back and 20 rupees now. It does not explain why US dollar was 1.25 rupees at the time of independence and 50 rupees now. It does not explain why gold which was 300 rupees a sovereign 40 years back is 17000 rupees now.

It can only be explained by ruthless money printing. More money chasing the same goods - inflation. These politicians have to tell this to the people. Is it so hard to understand? What is the big deal? In reality economics is so simple but these people create a big smokescreen around it and project it as if it is rocket science.

Leo_r

January 24th, 2011, 06:20 PM

:bash::bash:
வலிமை மிகுந்த இந்தியா குட்டி இலங்கையிடம் பயப்படுகிறதே, ஏன்?

http://www.dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Editorial&artid=365868&SectionID=132&MainSectionID=132&SEO=&Title=

Losing clout in Colombo...

Defence Secretary Pradeep Kumar was in Colombo late last month to salvage India’s declining influence after the demise of the LTTE by seeking to expand defence ties. These were constricted by New Delhi’s contradictory objectives of assisting Sri Lanka in eliminating the LTTE while withholding supply of offensive military equipment, thereby opening the doors to its arch foes, Pakistan and China.

New Delhi’s fading clout was reflected by President Asif Ali Zardari’s visit to Colombo even as Krishna was on a high visibility assignment to reassert India’s abiding ties with its southern neighbour. In the past, New Delhi never allowed any visitor from China or Pakistan to clash with the programme of any Indian political or military dignitary.

He is referring to the crucial help provided by India in crafting the military victory, credit for which some Sri Lankans give to China.

Post-LTTE , India-Sri Lanka relations have shifted significantly to Colombo’s advantage. It now enjoys a measure of strategic autonomy which it did not any time earlier. Before the defeat of the LTTE, Sri Lanka feared New Delhi and was careful in hedging with Pakistan and China, both allies, but India’s natural adversaries.

From being ‘irreversible’ , relations have diluted as Colombo is no longer prepared to be pushed around by New Delhi on the outstanding political question of power-sharing , the Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement, which is in limbo, or even its ever-deepening ties with Beijing. Yet, a Sri Lankan diplomat says India cannot be ignored.
India-Sri Lanka relations have to be reinvented and moved beyond the Tamil homeland in the North-East.

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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/7350672.cms

Sampathkumar

January 26th, 2011, 05:59 AM

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6985/26012011011023.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/26012011011023.jpg/)

Anniyan

January 26th, 2011, 01:03 PM

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/01/26/govt-s-r-day-gift-7-new-cities-in-6-states-aid0091.html

bonoslack7

January 26th, 2011, 01:21 PM

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/india-is-most-over-regulated-country-survey/123536/on

India has topped a list of the most "over-regulated countries in the world" in a survey on Asian business and politics by Hong Kong-based Political and Economic Risk Consultancy (PERC).

The survey used responses from American executives about regulatory conditions in the United States to provide a benchmark against which to assess the Asian scores.

India was rated worst in terms of over-regulation, scoring 9.16 points out of 10, followed by China with 9.04 points, Japan in third position with 3.28 points and the US at fourth with 1.51 points.

Hong Kong received the best score in the survey of 0.98 point, while Singapore was second with 1.08 points, according to the survey done in the last quarter of 2010, based on responses from 1,370 executives.

In general, regulations were complex and non-transparent, while standards and certifications procedures were onerous in India, according to the PERC survey findings.

Foreign exchange, capital transactions and some credit operations were subject to approvals, restrictions and additional requirements that went far beyond what most other countries require, concluded the survey.

Even procedures for something as simple as getting a tourist visa were more cumbersome in India than was typical elsewhere, it pointed out.

It also cited specific examples from the World Bank's Doing Business Survey of why India's regulatory system deserves to be graded as poorly as it was. It can take a month-and-a-half to register property, almost 200 days to obtain a construction permit, over 1,400 days to enforce a contract and seven years to close a business.

"Documentation requirements for both exports and imports are onerous," the PERC survey pointed out.

"Labor requirements are strict and companies lack flexibility on hiring and firing workers," it concluded.

Regulations in the country were frequently not enforced, which raised the question of why they were on the books at all, noted the survey.

"In a recent scandal involving the telecommunications ministry's mishandling of a landmark allocation of mobile telephone spectrum, as many as 85 of 122 new licences which were bundled with the bandwidth allocation were issued to companies that did not have the required capital to seek bandwidth," the survey pointed out.

These companies "suppressed facts, disclosed incomplete information and submitted fictitious documents", according to the survey.

"Of course they could not have done so without the complicity of bureaucrats at the ministry, who overlooked qualification shortcomings and arbitrarily moved forward the cut-off date for applying by one week to favor some companies that had applied earlier, while leaving others out," it said.

A few Indian states were trying to differentiate themselves from others by stressing how they were more efficient and pro-business.

The states of Gujarat and Tamil Nadu, for example, were trying to market themselves as being pro-business and efficient, said the survey.

Their actual situation was not as good as the states' marketing rhetoric. Nevertheless, the civil services of the both states were given credit by some investors for approving land purchases and environmental permits more quickly than was the case in other states.

"In the case of Gujarat, it has set up a web portal that lets foreign investors track their government requests and complain about delays," said the survey.

TShyam

January 26th, 2011, 02:06 PM

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/01/26/govt-s-r-day-gift-7-new-cities-in-6-states-aid0091.html

Those cities are coming in the Mumbai - Delhi Industrial corridor. I wonder what can they do with 2500 crores. Laying the roads alone will cost more than that.

bonoslack7

January 26th, 2011, 09:53 PM

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Tuitions-often-costlier-than-fees/articleshow/7368611.cms

Private coaching constitutes a significantly large portion of the expense students incur on education, sometimes even bigger than the expenditure on school fees, a study says.

In Gujarat, Maharashtra and Karnataka, school students who go for tuitions spend more on private coaching than the average school student does on all items including school fees, transport, books and stationary and uniforms.

These are the findings of a in 2007-08 National Sample Survey Organisation study on participation and expenditure on education by people aged between 5 and 29.

Among the larger states, West Bengal records the highest proportion of education expenditure on private coaching, about 40%. This is when the total amount spent on education is averaged across all students irrespective of whether they take private coaching or not.

No other component of school education in West Bengal constitutes as big a chunk of the total expenditure as private coaching. In urban West Bengal, the spending on private coaching is as high as 48% of the education expenses.

Other big states that spend a considerable share on private tutoring are Bihar (21%), Orissa (20%), Gujarat (20%), Maharashtra (16%) and Jharkhand (15%).

In most of these states, including West Bengal, school fees are quite low. The exception is Maharashtra, where it is rather high, about 38%, comprising the biggest chunk of average money spent on education in a state per student annually.

In Bihar and Orissa, rural students seem to be spending a much larger share on private tuitions than their urban counterparts — 24% in rural areas against 18% in urban

Bihar and 28% in rural Orissa vis-a-vis 16% in urban areas.

This could be because most rural students in these states attend government schools where fees are quite low. The states accounting for the smallest proportion on private coaching are Andhra Pradesh (3%), Tamil Nadu, Rajasthan and Himachal Pradesh, 4% each. There is little difference in the pattern between rural and urban areas in these states.

If the average amount spent on private coaching per year is calculated taking into account only those students who take private tuitions, then, among the bigger states, Gujarat has the highest spending of Rs 3,318. Maharashtra follows with Rs 3,273. Karnataka comes next with Rs 2,604 and Delhi Rs 2,593.

It is least in Tamil Nadu (Rs 1,052) and in Andhra Pradesh where it works out to an average of just Rs 1,108 per student per year.

Across the country, about 27% of students in urban areas and 15% of those in the rural parts spent money on private coaching, which included school as well as technical and vocational education.

The average yearly spending by rural school students who took private coaching was less than half of what was spent by their urban counterparts.

In Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Uttarakhand and Madhya Pradesh even rural students spent well over 60% of what the urban students paid for private coaching.

The greatest difference between what rural students and their urban counterpart spent on private tuition was in West Bengal. The urban spending on private tuition averaged Rs

3,485 a year per student — among the highest in the country. In the rural areas, it was a meager Rs 377, the lowest average rural spending on private coaching in the entire country.

A look at the way the money spent on private coaching is divided between the various stages of education shows that expenses are highest in the secondary and higher secondary levels, or from classes IX to XII. At this level, the spending on private tutoring accounts for a fifth of the expense on education, after which it falls to just 10%.

This reflects the practice of stepping up private tutoring at the level of board exams and further for entrance into professional courses and college. While the spending by both rural and urban segments on private tutoring remains more or less the same till class VII, when it comes to the secondary and higher secondary level, the urban segments pulls ahead with tuitions accounting for about a quarter of education expenses, while it is just 16% in the rural segment.

R2IChennai

January 27th, 2011, 01:43 AM

Losing clout in Colombo...

......

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/7350672.cms

Being an Indian I am ashamed, Its ridiculous to loose 500+ of its Indian citizens
NDTV/IBNLIVE and english media is sick and too low and they sponsor paid news only.

I feel its time srilanka give a fitting reply with Chinese military in lanka, I am happy for Indian govt's failure here. (sorry desadrohi aga pakkathinga its just i couldnt tolerate this indifference towards tamil bodies)
if this continues , the seperatist sentiments will become more and more deep rooted in this part of the country.

vs007

January 27th, 2011, 06:12 AM

Being an Indian I am ashamed, Its ridiculous to loose 500+ of its Indian citizens
NDTV/IBNLIVE and english media is sick and too low and they sponsor paid news only.

I feel its time srilanka give a fitting reply with Chinese military in lanka, I am happy for Indian govt's failure here. (sorry desadrohi aga pakkathinga its just i couldnt tolerate this indifference towards tamil bodies)
if this continues , the seperatist sentiments will become more and more deep rooted in this part of the country.

As some one said, if instead of tamils, it were biharis or punjabis penned up in animal enclosure, the sardar govt would have bombed lanka to dark ages.
Alas with a kannadiga foreign minister and a gandhi family more yearning for revenge, the tamils in lanka end up suffering. And ofcourse thatha more cares about which of his sons or daughter gets what portfolio and Jaya amma does not care about anything else apart from saddling herself with power.

R2IChennai

January 27th, 2011, 07:12 AM

As some one said, if instead of tamils, it were biharis or punjabis penned up in animal enclosure, the sardar govt would have bombed lanka to dark ages.
Alas with a kannadiga foreign minister and a gandhi family more yearning for revenge, the tamils in lanka end up suffering. And ofcourse thatha more cares about which of his sons or daughter gets what portfolio and Jaya amma does not care about anything else apart from saddling herself with power.

Leave alone tamils in lanka(thats another pathetic sad story), atleast you can claim they are foreignersm, my blood boils its the same tamils who hold Indian citizenship...
Seriously something wrong with India, I opened it up in chai bar to see what other forummers think about this

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 08:27 AM

If Chinese get control in Sri Lanka you can forget about any justice for Sri Lankan Tamils.

vs007

January 27th, 2011, 04:26 PM

If Chinese get control in Sri Lanka you can forget about any justice for Sri Lankan Tamils.

They have already forgotten about it, now its about basic survival.

But I blame the apathy of DMK Govt caused due to family constraints, and AIADMK which never cared about the cause in the first place, and the jokers like subramaniam swamy.

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 04:43 PM

Why Subramaniam Swamy? Because he is against LTTE? LTTE was never the solution. It caused a lot of the violence and suffering in the first place. Solution is always through negotiation.

Arasu

January 27th, 2011, 04:55 PM

There should be two parties to negotiate. Negotiation also means give and take and a win-win solution for both.

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 05:08 PM

True which is why GOI supported LTTE initially, but they burnt their hands later on when it went out of control.

IMO the only long-term solution is to make the India-SL border like the India-Nepal border. Jaffna peninsula can be made economically contiguous with India.

engineer.akash

January 27th, 2011, 05:16 PM

As some one said, if instead of tamils, it were biharis or punjabis penned up in animal enclosure, the sardar govt would have bombed lanka to dark ages.
Alas with a kannadiga foreign minister and a gandhi family more yearning for revenge, the tamils in lanka end up suffering. And ofcourse thatha more cares about which of his sons or daughter gets what portfolio and Jaya amma does not care about anything else apart from saddling herself with power.

Sorry dude is it only you are or all tamils think this way :ohno: We are like brothers and we have generously helped each other at time of crisis -- Kannadigas did help in setting up of houses for tsunami affected families-mostly fishermen.I don't think SM Krishna wants to take revenge on fellow Indians.

I feel sickened reading such comments.:ohno:

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 05:17 PM

Yagya

January 27th, 2011, 05:29 PM

vs007

January 27th, 2011, 05:51 PM

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 05:53 PM

It's the Tamil forum... such comments can be seen from time to time. Some of them act as if they've just survived a holocaust.

p.s. now don't create a hoopla over this comment. This is strictly for those who write comments like these i.e. a minority.

That's a bit unfair. I think TN forum is the biggest regional forum here so it's not surprising.
If we had a Punjabi or some other state forum of this size, I'm willing to bet that we would have had to read far more unpleasant stuff.

vs007

January 27th, 2011, 05:57 PM

And besides Punjabis, maharashrians, kannadigas,gujratis and many others have done lot of pretty unpleasant stuff to people from other states, religions or to people who are not like them. So please, spare us this moral preaching.

Yagya

January 27th, 2011, 06:07 PM

That's a bit unfair. I think TN forum is the biggest regional forum here so it's not surprising.
If we had a Punjabi or some other state forum of this size, I'm willing to bet that we would have had to read far more unpleasant stuff.

Kerala is big as well. Never seen them complain this much.

Yagya

January 27th, 2011, 06:09 PM

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 06:14 PM

Kerala is big as well. Never seen them complain this much.

They are well-adjusted I think. Not much history of violence or radical movements. Good human development.

vs007

January 27th, 2011, 06:21 PM

Tamils are in the same league as the people you've mentioned.
Show me example of sustained anti kannadiga or anti marathis or anti muslims and killing them like you had seen in punjab,maharashtra,gujarat,karnataka?

ChennaiIndian

January 27th, 2011, 06:35 PM

Sorry dude is it only you are or all tamils think this way :ohno: We are like brothers and we have generously helped each other at time of crisis -- Kannadigas did help in setting up of houses for tsunami affected families-mostly fishermen.I don't think SM Krishna wants to take revenge on fellow Indians.

I feel sickened reading such comments.:ohno:

Pls don't generalize these against Tamils. It is true Tamils in general are passionate about their region/language etc. However, this is also true for people of every state in India. Once again, this is based on my observation. By the way, you have to come out of India to realize this; in India, you will be in one state or the other and wouldn't draw conclusions. Only in a 'no-man's land' like outside India, you will see this. It is just that the way in which Tamils express these may at times be uncomfortable for others.

Coming to the tsunami thing, note that even adversaries of us like Pak helped us because it was a natural calamity beyond imagination. So, don't bring in Kannada people there. At that time, anyone would have come out and helped.

I disagree with comments on SMK. He is not to be blamed for this. He entered the scene when everything was over. There are others to be blamed based on various other events/facts.

ChennaiIndian

January 27th, 2011, 06:38 PM

chennaidesi

January 27th, 2011, 06:39 PM

Outside India a kashmiri or a Keralite they are treated as one Indian only.

ChennaiIndian

January 27th, 2011, 06:40 PM

Show me example of sustained anti kannadiga or anti marathis or anti muslims and killing them like you had seen in punjab,maharashtra,gujarat,karnataka?

India in general has failed to fix these problems over the decades. Kashmir is still a lingering problem. The only place where India managed to show courage and came out in flying colors was the liberation of East Pak. Once again, this is not because of the Bengali or Hindu refugees. It is because of the chance to break-even with Pak. If not for this, I am sure India wouldn't have interfered so rigorously as it did. Going by this theory, I am not surprised at India's reaction to the SL crisis in the 80s and thereafter.

ChennaiIndian

January 27th, 2011, 06:41 PM

Tamils are in the same league as the people you've mentioned.
+1.

Yagya

January 27th, 2011, 06:41 PM

Show me example of sustained anti kannadiga or anti marathis or anti muslims and killing them like you had seen in punjab,maharashtra,gujarat,karnataka?

Coimbatore riots 1997? plus the strong sentiments against people from other parts of the country. I think places the tamils in the same league as every other indian state.

vs007

January 27th, 2011, 06:59 PM

Coimbatore riots 1997?
Yes riots were shameful, you would never hear such a thing form other states who would condone or justify. However after that riots, things turned for better, lot better.

plus the strong sentiments against people from other parts of

I think places the tamils in the same league as every other indian state.
You think??? The strong sentiments is mainly due to insistence of northies coming to Chennai and having the chutzpah of demanding everyone speak hindi.
Besides sentiments alone are no match for being killed on the streets for your religion or your home state or mother tongue. Just ask those victims from those state and probably you would be influence to think again. :))

Yagya

January 27th, 2011, 07:08 PM

You think??? The strong sentiments is mainly due to insistence of northies coming to Chennai and having the chutzpah of demanding everyone speak hindi.
Besides sentiments alone are no match for being killed on the streets for your religion or your home state or mother tongue. Just ask those victims from those state and probably you would be influence to think again. :))

What makes you different to them then? you're just harping the same tune when it comes to your state. You believe that TN is somehow different/superior to these state when the fact is it is in the same league as them. Why adopt the holier than thou attitude when it comes to your own state?

vs007

January 27th, 2011, 07:24 PM

What makes you different to them then? you're just harping the same tune when it comes to your state. You believe that TN is somehow different/superior to these state when the fact is it is in the same league as them. Why adopt the holier than thou attitude when it comes to your own state?
Read my post again and I gave you the reasons why TN is different only with the regards of not killing people from other state, which the mentioned list did and hence we do not need lecture from other people. You are ofcourse free to fabricate new accusations when introduced to facts.

kannan infratech

January 27th, 2011, 07:31 PM

I think that the discussion goes off rail due to sentiments. Lets forget the sentiments for a while and focus on the real problem.

Post LTTE demise, India should have risen to the occasion and control the SL extremities.
What Pakistan is doing to USA, SL is doing to India. Take the money / aid but stab in the back. It is Afghan card in Pak & China card in SL.

The latest killings of fishermen seem different from what it was earlier. Now, there is no smuggling taking place. The fishermen who supposedly intruded (they can go upto Kacha Theevu island) into SL waters can be arrested, checked and let off after a trial. Why kill them and that too by adopting inhuman methods.

Indian Coast Guard can have warning Buoys with transmitters and have a common frequency on wireless to get the news of fishermen intruding immediately and take over.

Being a mute spectator and ignoring the plight of poor fishermen does not reflect statemanship. Probably Rajiv's murder has numbed the top guys at Delhi.

India should pro actively intervene in SL not by military force but by economical might. Jaffna should be adopted by India and iNdia should help Jaffna to develop and regain its past glory. China should be kept off SL: otherwise we will have a problamatic border in South also - which will zap our energy & wealth in unnecssary defence measures.

The ruling Govts both at the Centre and the state should consult the opposition and take an united stand which will arrest this trend immediately.

It is time to ACT

wlbkng

January 27th, 2011, 07:32 PM

You think??? The strong sentiments is mainly due to insistence of northies coming to Chennai and having the chutzpah of demanding everyone speak hindi.

+1. seriya sonneenga. idha sonna nammala dhan paithiya karanu solvanga. i don know why these ppl are obsessed with spreading with one language and forcing everyone to adapt. ppl have forgotten the 1965 riots for language implementation. we do not need such a violence again. learn and respect others' feelings. No language is superior over the other.

R2IChennai

January 27th, 2011, 07:36 PM

+1. seriya sonneenga. idha sonna nammala dhan paithiya karanu solvanga. i don know why these ppl are obsessed with spreading with one language and forcing everyone to adapt. ppl have forgotten the 1965 riots for language implementation. we do not need such a violence again. learn and respect others' feelings. No language is superior over the other.
Please dont bring Hindi argument here , even after all these I dint find Indian forummers condoning sl navy is what makes me sad

Yagya

January 27th, 2011, 07:39 PM

Read my post again and I gave you the reasons why TN is different only with the regards of not killing people from other state, which the mentioned list did and hence we do not need lecture from other people. You are ofcourse free to fabricate new accusations when introduced to facts.

No. Your first call was anti-minority riots. To which I gave the example Coimbatore so then it became a non issue all of a sudden.Then you pressed for language which is a flawed argument since you generalised all north Indians. Several north indian communities have settled in TN if they were all pressing for Hindi or their respective language then they would not have been able to settle. Racism is also faced by these communites if you remember an article posted on Bihari workers which is the same in other indian states as well. So in effect you do feel that Tamil Nadu is holier than others when the case is it isn't. It is as bad or good as other states.

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 07:44 PM

Please dont bring Hindi argument here , even after all these I dint find Indian forummers condoning sl navy is what makes me sad

What do you want? India should attack SL and create one more enemy in the region?
Some SL Navy people are too trigger-happy. This is not new - same problem exists on the India-Bangladesh border. But you must not have heard about Bengalis being killed by Bangladesh Rifles. Even BSF sometimes fires on B'deshis who cross the border into India.

Fact is that leaders of all SAARC countries cannot admit the problems. Even now SL keeps denying that their Navy did anything wrong.

black_investigation

January 27th, 2011, 07:47 PM

Colombo belongs to Mongolia not to China, and if there was no British invasion there was no LTTE. Let's go back to Thibet and kick them out of Dragonia.

wlbkng

January 27th, 2011, 08:09 PM

Please dont bring Hindi argument here , even after all these I dint find Indian forummers condoning sl navy is what makes me sad

Ofcourse those who know about these things, will feel sad and blood shoots up when I thinking abt these atrocities.

But condoning makes us indifferent from Kalaingar who sends a telegram or letter to PM everytime when such news surface or JJ who demands PM must resign. Both these politicians do nothing. Another lame duck is the CG including PM. Congress will never try to solve this problem due to the problems it faced and Rajiv gandhi's death in the past. BJP will have no idea who are these fishermen and what is going on SL.

TN as a state cannot use its power to bring peace. CG will keep ignoring TN as its doing for decades. While CG cant even face the Arunachal matter against China boldly, how can you expect it to involve in SL's matter?

What do you want? India should attack SL and create one more enemy in the region?

We already lost the chance. Rajapaksa once said India should not be bothered about SL's relation with China. China is building port(Hambantota) and airports in SL and is announcing packages as freebies and loans. India on the other hand is not much bothered about it. What is the need for China to do that? The core objective of China is to gain foothold in SL by befriending them and to spy India from SL. The SL on the other hand get some development rather than relying on never helping Indians.SL is like a child which goes after whoever gives a chocolate or gift(just for a comparison context, dont take in a literal sense). India is not understanding that.

A dialogue will ensure that Tamils and Sinhalese get their share and no one is discriminated. Norway tried it but failed. When a huge country like India with tens of different languages and 28 states can co-exist peacefully(on a large scale. ofcourse minor differences/problems do exist), why cant a country like SL with size less than TN be peaceful. A initiative can be taken by Indian govt atleast hereafter to ensure that peace and equal rights are obtained to all the people of SL. But do you think our govt will take the initiative?

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 08:13 PM

But SL has passed laws which protect the rights of Tamil minority right? At least that is what I have heard in the media.

vs007

January 27th, 2011, 08:16 PM

No. Your first call was anti-minority riots. To which I gave the example Coimbatore so then it became a non issue all of a sudden.
Read up again, that was the last in the list and you gave an example which I acknowledged sorrowfully, and you instead of acknowledging, started blaming the victims instead as seen below.

Racism is also faced by these communites if you remember an article posted on Bihari workers which is the same in other indian states as well. So in effect you do feel that Tamil Nadu is holier than others when the case is it isn't. It is as bad or good as other states.
This is often a track deployed by defense counsel of rapists to blame the vitims which is utterly reprehensible.
Presented with facts, most true blood tamils would be ashamed of any riots/killings in TN against people of other state,language,religion and not condone it. Yes in that regard, TN is lot safer and better to work than other states.

I see no point in dragging any further.

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 08:19 PM

Sri Lankan High Commissioner is claiming that attacks are done by a 'third element'.

“We have advised the Navy not to open fire on fishermen even if they cross the International Maritime Boundary Line [IMBL] for fishing. It is good if they do not cross the IMBL…but many do. Since we believe that the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam [LTTE] is no more in Sri Lanka and India, it appears that a third element is involved,” he said.

Asked whether there was a possibility of a common fishing policy between the two countries to emerge, Mr. Kariyawasam said: “There is scope for everything. I can only guarantee that the Sri Lankan Navy will not fire at Indian fishermen.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article1125075.ece

vs007

January 27th, 2011, 08:21 PM

and India, it appears that a third element is involved,” he said.

Yes, few days back Lankan papers had reported UFOs circling that area. :lol:

wlbkng

January 27th, 2011, 08:21 PM

But SL has passed laws which protect the rights of Tamil minority right? At least that is what I have heard in the media.

I am not sure about that(frankly speaking, not aware about that) so I could not comment much.
But do you think that SL govt will act according to the law? The law is for eyewashing UN and other countries, so that SL can keep doing those atrocities continuously. See in the internet that how many people are killed by SL army daily just based on the suspicion that those ppl may be LTTEs doing undercover operations.

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 08:22 PM

They keep denying everything and then promising that it will never happen again. If I was Prime Minister of India even I would confused how to deal with the situation :ohno:

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 08:24 PM

...

Yagya

January 27th, 2011, 08:26 PM

Read up again, that was the last in the list and you gave an example which I acknowledged sorrowfully, and you instead of acknowledging, started blaming the victims instead as seen below.

This is often a track deployed by defense counsel of rapists to blame the vitims which is utterly reprehensible.
Presented with facts, most true blood tamils would be ashamed of any riots/killings in TN against people of other state,language,religion and not condone it. Yes in that regard, TN is lot safer and better to work than other states.

I see no point in dragging any further.

You expressed sorrow but the comment before you claimed that hasn't had riots like the ones in maha,guj,karnataka,punjab etc. and excuse me are you branding Biharis as rapists?! and then you cry foul about generalisation and discrimination. Utter hypocracy! and what is this "true blood tamils"? now there are distinctions among tamils? and come out of your cocoon that all over india people are ashamed of riots and killings as well. It's not just TN.

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 08:30 PM

You expressed sorrow but the comment before you claimed that hasn't had riots like the ones in maha,guj,karnataka,punjab etc. and excuse me are you branding Biharis as rapists?! and then you cry foul about generalisation and discrimination. Utter hypocracy! and what is this "true blood tamils"? now there are distinctions among tamils? and come out of your cocoon that all over india people are ashamed of riots and killings as well. It's not just TN.

calm down will you? He's not calling anybody a rapist.

vs007

January 27th, 2011, 08:30 PM

They keep denying everything and then promising that it will never happen again. If I was Prime Minister of India even I would confused how to deal with the situation :ohno:

When many in UN (US,UK, EU) were blaming Lanka for its gross huma rights, India joined the company of russia and China to defend and protect lanka from criticism and any sanctions. He could start from there and be consistent about human rights, if he truly cares about them.

Ofcourse more than MMS, I blame MK who practically is mum about this serious issue and has power to do something about it, rather than defending the corrupt and his family.

PS: The British Foreign minister did a lot, or rather raise the heat on Lanka much better than anyone else:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/30/sri-lanka-tamil-tigers

Yagya

January 27th, 2011, 08:32 PM

calm down will you? He's not calling anybody a rapist.

I am calm.

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 08:36 PM

When many in UN (US,UK, EU) were blaming Lanka for its gross huma rights, India joined the company of russia and China to defend and protect lanka from criticism and any sanctions. He could start from there and be consistent about human rights, if he truly cares about them.

Ofcourse more than MMS, I blame MK who practically is mum about this serious issue and has power to do something about it, rather than defending the corrupt and his family.

PS: The British Foreign minister did a lot, or rather raise the heat on Lanka much better than anyone else:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/30/sri-lanka-tamil-tigers

British Foreign minister doesn't have a pawn in the game. If India starts accusing SL openly then tomorrow they will become enemy country and will simply refuse to cooperate.

Is P-kistan cooperating with India after 26/11? No. Did it help to condemn them loudly? No. It made matters worse. Even the K-shmir issue will have to be solved via dialogue. Threatening them will not and has not achieved anything.

wlbkng

January 27th, 2011, 08:38 PM

wlbkng, sadly this happens in all countries around us (Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nepal) but we cannot run their country for them. We can only put pressure on them to comply, but even that pressure is limited because they can always approach some unfriendly country for help.

About Indian fishermen, I agree that it is extremely shameful and something should and can be done about it. But what happens to Pakistani Punjabis or Bangladeshi Bengalis or Sri Lankan Tamils is not directly in our hands.

Yes I do agree that Punjabis in Pak and Bengalis in Bangladesh are suffering and as an Indian I feel bad about it. But see the level of problem in SL. Comparatively its more than Pak and Bdesh put together. So far in 27000+ tamilians were killed, and this is fact from wiki but no one knows the real numbers. Even they are brothers and sisters to us. When these things happen and the our own Indian brothers at the centre are not willing to solve this problem, then what is the solution? Keep killing all the tamils in SL and make it a country only for sinhalese?

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 08:42 PM

Yes I do agree that Punjabis in Pak and Bengalis in Bangladesh are suffering and as an Indian I feel bad about it. But see the level of problem in SL. Comparatively its more than Pak and Bdesh put together. So far in 27000+ tamilians were killed, and this is fact from wiki but no one knows the real numbers. Even they are brothers and sisters to us. When these things happen and the our own Indian brothers at the centre are not willing to solve this problem, then what is the solution? Keep killing all the tamils in SL and make it a country only for sinhalese?

India has tried everything

1. Negotiations
2. Creating LTTE
3. Sending IPKF to mediate
4. Trying to broker peace b/w LTTE and SL

....short of Invading Sri Lanka and creating Tamil Eelam. This option could have been possible in 1970s, but in 2011 you cannot invade another country so easily. Even America cannot invade any more countries, forget about India.

vs007

January 27th, 2011, 08:46 PM

British Foreign minister doesn't have a pawn in the game. If India starts accusing SL openly then tomorrow they will become enemy country and will simply refuse to cooperate.
They have trade though and did influence EU to do something about the quota and did lot more for Lankan tamils than India in that crucial moment when India was AWOL.
Besides India gave the tacit approval for the elimination by hook or crook and even supplied intelligence and arms, and Lanka chose the crook way instead of doing it humanely.
I bet had Wickramsinghe had conducted this war, it would be more humane.

Is P-kistan cooperating with India after 26/11? No. Did it help to condemn them loudly? No. It made matters worse. Even the K-shmir issue will have to be solved via dialogue. Threatening them will not and has not achieved anything.
Lanka is not holding the strategic position(next to Afghanistan and Iran, and nuclear) and could have been coerced if chosen. Ofcourse decision was made not to.

...short of Invading Sri Lanka and creating Tamil Eelam. This option could have been possible in 1970s, but in 2011 you cannot invade another country so easily.
Depends upon the country, LTTE AirForce brought down Colombo airport for hours. :D

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 08:51 PM

LTTE is not a country. For that matter LeT's "Navy" disrupted Mumbai for nearly a week. Remember that?

wlbkng

January 27th, 2011, 08:59 PM

India has tried everything

1. Negotiations
2. Creating LTTE
3. Sending IPKF to mediate
4. Trying to broker peace b/w LTTE and SL

....short of Invading Sri Lanka and creating Tamil Eelam. This option could have been possible in 1970s, but in 2011 you cannot invade another country so easily. Even America cannot invade any more countries, forget about India.

* Real Negotiations did not happen in past two-three decades by India.

* IPKF killed the LTTE who were actually groomed by Indian govt earning the ire of tamils. This was considered as betrayal. IPKF was one of the biggest screw ups by India, the result of which we lost Rajiv Gandhi.

Now its the time for the CG to initiate the talks. There is no LTTE. Why can't a rehabilitation and a peace settlement process be started by India. Why cant we help them rebuild the roads, hospitals, schools, universities and dwellings which were torn by war? (which china is doing silently and india as usual is watching).

Friend, remember when we get into SL and help them rebuild now, they will be friends for us forever. We have no friends around us(Pak, china, bangladesh..). Now we have a chance to make SL as the only friend. If we don't make use of the opportunity now, then we will be the losers forever. Also remember Pak and China will make use of this opportunity and create another security problem via SL if we dont act now.

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 09:20 PM

Honestly, I don't know why. AFAIK we did send a humanitarian team to SL and are helping in some way atleast. Maybe Karunanidhi should take up the issue.

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 09:24 PM

India has already started working on developing Palaly air port and Kankasanthurai harbour in the Jaffna peninsula to build airport as a regional aviation centre and the harbour as a trade and commercial hub.
High commission also donated medical equipments worth LKR 112 million to Jaffna hospital and inaugurated the second branch of Indian bank in Jaffna.

http://news.in.msn.com/international/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4829487

FICCI sends 10-member delegation to Jaffna to tap business opportunities (http://www.orissadiary.com/ShowBussinessNews.asp?id=24093)

New Delhi: A 10-member delegation, led by the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry, is visiting Jaffna (Sri Lanka) to participate in the Jaffna International Trade Fair to be held from January 21-23, 2011. The goal of the delegation is to tap business opportunities in Sri Lanka’s northern region.

The delegation members drawn from diverse industry sectors - farm machinery, agricultural tractors, spare parts, industrial minerals and chemicals, construction material, gems and jewellery, pharmaceuticals, herbal and household products -- will interact with entrepreneurs and investors and hold direct business to business meetings with the Jaffna Chamber of Commerce.

Dr.Amit Mitra, Secretary General, FICCI, commented, “With peace returning to Jaffna after years of strife, the region offers immense potential for investors in reconstruction and all-round development”. Indian companies have good prospects for tie-ups in the development of agriculture, construction, apparels, automobiles, hospitality, travel and tourism, consumer goods, housing, financial service institutions, information & communication technology, food & beverages and packaging.”

The Federation of Chambers of Commerce and Industry of Sri Lanka (FCCISL), the counterpart of FICCI in Sri Lanka, with whom FICCI has signed a Memorandum of Understanding, will organize investor forums on the sidelines of the Jaffna International Trade Fair. The forum will focus on market requirements and export opportunities in the Northern Province, institutional framework and regulatory issues for investments, business development for SMEs and financial services required for investments.

The Government of India recently opened a consulate in Jaffna in order to facilitate investments into Jaffna; FICCI is following up on that initiative to promote trade and commerce and create synergies between Indian and Sri Lankan companies.

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Jaffna International Trade Fair (JITF) 2011 started (http://www.samachartoday.com/jaffna-international-trade-fair-jitf-2011-started/15114)

The 2nd Jaffna International Trade Fair (JITF) was inaugurated by the Indian High Commissioner to Srilanka Ashok K Kantha today with strong presence of Indian business houses.

Nearly fourty five Indian companies are taking part under banner of National Small Industrial Corporation (NSIC) and State of Kerala.

The Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FICCI) and National Research Development Corporation (NRDC) have also sent business delegations.

Indian companies are showcasing various machinery, equipments and products for agro-based industries, food processing industries and equipments for SME sectors.

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wlbkng

January 27th, 2011, 09:33 PM

^^ Thanks for the links.

Ofcourse India is doing something.. But is that enough? My dream was to make the Indian subcontinent a zone like European union. Where peace exists between countries, people move across borders freely and can work/live anywhere inside the zone. Imagine if such things happen in our subcontinent.. With Pakistan, Bangladesh and Myanmar its not possible but it is possible with atleast SL. It will be a win-win for both India & SL. Is our Govt visionary and ready to make this possible? (Forget TN politicians, they run after money and votes)

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 09:35 PM

With Sri Lanka I'm sure it will happen in the coming years. I personally don't see the value of these borders much. Esp. Jaffna should become like Nepal so that there is no issue of border tensions or discrimination.

wlbkng

January 27th, 2011, 09:44 PM

Lets hope for the best. Atleast we, the common people are having good thoughts. Time will be the best medicine. Once rivals - Allies and Axis, are friends now in Europe. Lets hope we will also become friends in subcontinent.

Marathaman

January 27th, 2011, 09:58 PM

That is the advantage with SL, that we are atleast nominally "friends" with them. So we can send people into their country to build things, monitor things, etc. etc. and improve the lives of the people.

With Bd/P-k we cannot do anything because both country's governments are paranoid and always at loggerheads with us while common people are suffering daily terrorist attacks and rioting/violence. Maybe we feel good emotionally by always fighting with Pakistan but in the end it achieves nothing.

wlbkng

January 27th, 2011, 10:09 PM

That is the advantage with SL, that we are atleast nominally "friends" with them. So we can send people into their country to build things, monitor things, etc. etc. and improve the lives of the people.

True.. Imagine one day, a guy from Jaffna travels daily in a ferry to and fro to work at Rameswaram or a trader who goes to columbo from tuticorin to sell his business.. that would be one of the golden periods in history of indian subcontinent.

Maybe we feel good emotionally by always fighting with Pakistan but in the end it achieves nothing.

Sounds sarcastic :lol: but true.

Mr.Nellai

January 28th, 2011, 02:10 AM

http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/2812011/28012011-cni-mn-05/3625109.JPG

Mr.Nellai

January 28th, 2011, 02:12 AM

http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/2812011/28012011-cni-mn-06/37530.JPG

Jagadeesh R

January 28th, 2011, 07:21 AM

:bash::bash:

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/01/28/20110128e_016104017.jpg

Source: Dinakaran

ChennaiIndian

January 28th, 2011, 10:55 PM

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Rationalist-Karuna-blesses-Alagiri-on-his-star-birthday/articleshow/7375519.cms

CHENNAI: Chief minister and DMK president M Karunanidhi put aside his rationalist views for a brief while on Thursday and joined his family in celebrating his son's star' birthday. Union minister MK Alagiri will turn 60 on January 30, but the older son of Karunanidhi chose to come to Chennai to take the blessings of his father on January 27, which happens to be his birthday according to the Hindu calendar.

Although a die-hard rationalist Karunanidhi obliged when Alagiri, along with his wife, Kanthi, arrived at his Gopalapuram residence in the city, to seek his father's blessings. Vazhga manamakkal (blessings to the couple),' Karunanidhi said when Alagiri and wife Kanthi, with garlands around their neck, fell at his feet. Pictures of the happy family posing along with Karunanidhi for the camera on the occasion were circulated to the media by the state public relations department. Among the family members who took part in the Shastiabthapoorthi' (the 60th birthday celebration) were Karunanidhi's sister and Murasoli Maran's mother Shanmugasundarathamal, his sons, deputy chief minister MK Stalin and MK Tamizharasan, daughter Selvi, and grandnephew Kalanithi Maran. Kanimozhi and her mother, Rajathi Ammal, were conspicuous by their absence.

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Ipadi oru appa, ipadi oru pulla....what a family!! :lol::lol::lol:

ChennaiIndian

January 28th, 2011, 10:58 PM

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Best-crime-tales-of-last-100-years-all-in-a-book/articleshow/7375625.cms

CHENNAI: From the visha oosi killings in the 1970s, the first bank fraud to the shooting of MGR and the first bomb blast in Chennai, a book released by the Tamil Nadu CB-CID on Thursday details more than 200 sensational cases the agency has cracked since its inception in 1906.

Chief minister M Karunanidhi released the book, CB-CID: A Retrospect (1906-2010)', which was compiled by CB-CID ADGP Archana Ramasundram and her 10-member team. They spent nearly one year to collect, collate and edit the different articles that make the book. Most of the material has been taken from the agency's archives. A number of investigating officers have contributed first-person accounts of solving cases, which makes for interesting reading. There are also newspaper clippings of reports on the crimes.

"The book will be available in all government libraries, especially of the police, forensic sciences department and legal training institutions," said DGP Letika Saran. The 400-page book has chapters devoted to murder, fraud, cyber crime, counterfiet currency and crime against women. The book also contains rare photographs such as the injured MGR signing his nomination papers for elections from the hospital bed. According to the investigation, on January 12, 1967, actor M R Radha went to MGR's house, took a revolver and fired at MGR after an heated argument. MGR sustained a bullet injury on his neck and lower portion of his left ear.

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chennaidesi

January 28th, 2011, 11:05 PM

ChennaiIndian

January 28th, 2011, 11:06 PM

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article1134818.ece

Kalaimamani awards of the Tamil Nadu Iyal Isai Nataka Mandram have been announced for 2008, 2009 and 2010.

According to a State government release, music director Bhardwaj, cinematographer Rajiv Menon, comedian Karunas and writers Elasai Sundaram and Rani Mainthan have been selected to receive the award for 2008. Writers Sa. Kandasami, Nanjil Nadan and Rajeshkumar, actors Chinni Jayanth, Rohini and Saranya, vocalist Gayathri Girish, television artists Poovilangu Mohan and Revathi Sankaran and Naiyandi Melam artist Sivagangai Nagu figure in the 2009 list. Tamil scholar Tamilannal, theatre personality Prasanna Ramasamy, vocalists T.V. Gopalakrishnan and Sasikiran, flautist Tiruvarur Swaminathan, singer Kalyani Menon, actors Arya, Anuksha and Thana will get the award for 2010.

The award presentation will be held on February 13 at Valluvar Kottam.

ChennaiIndian

January 28th, 2011, 11:07 PM

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article1134871.ece

The State government on Thursday decided to fix energy quota for industrial consumers on the basis of average consumption during any three consecutive months between October 2007 and October 2008. The decision had been taken to give advantage to consumers, who would now get reasonable quota under the regime of restriction and control (R&C).

This was taken at a meeting between Deputy Chief Minister M.K. Stalin and a delegation of industrialists from Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) and Southern India Mills' Association (SIMA). Among other decisions were calculation of actual demand on the injected power at the receiving end (after deducting transmission loss), waiver of cross subsidy charge till the R & C measures were in force and the levy of appropriate commercial tariff only in excess of 0.5 per cent of the total power consumption on ancillary activities.

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Sampathkumar

January 29th, 2011, 07:10 AM

ஒரு ஆசிரியை மனது வைத்தால்... மெட்ரிக்குலேஷன் பள்ளியை மிஞ்சும் அரசுப் பள்ளி!

தொடக்கக்கல்வி ஆசிரியர்களான எங்களுக்கு, ஒவ்வொரு மாணவனின் வாழ்க்கையிலும் 'பிள்ளையார் சுழி!' போட்டுவிட்ட திருப்தி வாழ்க்கை முழுவதும் இருக்கும். எங்களோட மாணவர்கள் எல்லாம் எதிர்காலத்துல பெரிய ஆட்களா வரும்போது, அவங்க ஏணியோட முதல் படியா நாங்க இருந்தோம்ங்கற சந்தோஷம், ரொம்ப அற்புதமானது இல்லையா?!"Share26 Buzz

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திண்டுக்கல் மாவட்டம், பழநியிலிருந்து ஏழு கிலோ மீட்டர் தொலைவிலிருக்கும் மானூர் ஊராட்சி தொடக்கப்பள்ளியின் தலைமையாசிரியை சரஸ்வதி. தான் இந்தப் பள்ளிக்கு மாற்றலாகி வந்த ஐந்தே வருடங்களில், மாவட்டத்தின் 'சிறந்த தொடக்கப்பள்ளி'யாக தனது பள்ளியைத் தரம் உயர்த்தியவர். அதற்கு அங்கீகாரமாக, பழனி கல்வி மாவட்டத்தின் தொடக்கல்வித் துறை, மாவட்டத்தின் '2010-11 கல்வியாண்டின் சிறந்த தொடக்கப்பள்ளி'க்கான அரசு விருதுக்காக பரிந்துரைத்துள்ளது. கூடவே, மாவட்டத்திலுள்ள அனைத்து ஆசிரியர் பயிற்சி கல்லூரிகளும், தங்களின் பயிற்சி பட்டறைக்காக இந்தப் பள்ளியையே நாடுகின்றன.

'ஏய் வாத்திம்மா... எங்களையே அடிக்க வர்றியா...' என்று குருவுக்கான மரியாதையைக்கூட கொடுக்கத் தெரியாத முரட்டு கிராமப்புற மாணவர்கள்... சனி, ஞாயிறு மற்றும் விடுமுறை தினங்களில் சமூக விரோத கூடாரமாகிப் போகும் பள்ளி... 'இந்த ஸ்கூலெல்லாம் லாயக்கில்ல... இங்கிலீசு மீடியத்துக்கு அனுப்புவோம்...' என்ற பெற்றோர்களின் மனநிலை... இத்தகைய சூழலில் இங்கே பொறுப்பேற்ற சரஸ்வதி, அத்தனைக்கும் முற்றுப்புள்ளி வைத்திருக்கிறார்.

"என்னோட பணிபுரியற ஆசிரியைகளும், ஆசிரியரும் இணைந்து செயல்பட்டதுக்கான பலன் இது!" என்று எல்லோருக்குமான அங்கீகாரத்தோடு ஆரம்பித்த சரஸ்வதி,

"2005-ம் வருஷம் இங்கே வந்தேன். விடுமுறை தினங்கள்ல வகுப்பறைகளை சமூகவிரோதிகள் பயன்படுத்திக்கிட்டிருந்தாங்க. பொருட்களும் திருட்டுப் போயிக்கிட்டிருந்துது. ஆசிரியர்கள், ஊர் மக்கள், பஞ்சாயத்து தலைவர்னு எல்லாரும் ஒண்ணு சேர்ந்து அதை எல்லாம் சரி செஞ்சோம்.

அடுத்ததா, மாணவர்கள் பக்கம் கவனத்தை திருப்பினோம். 'டிரெஸ்'கூட சரியா போட்டுட்டு வராத நிலைமையில இருந்தவங்ககிட்ட, பள்ளி பத்தின மரியாதையான, ஆர்வமான பிம்பத்தை ஏற்படுத்தினோம். 'நல்லா படிக்கணும், ஆசிரியர்களை மதிக்கணும்'ங்கற அடிப்படை புரிதலை அவங்களுக்கு ஏற்படுத்தவே ரொம்ப மெனக்கெட வேண்டி இருந்தது.

அடுத்தக் கட்டமா, யூனிஃபார்ம் கலர், டிசைன் இதையெல்லாம் கல்வித்துறை ஒப்புதலோடு மாத்தினோம். ஒரு கட்டத்துல, மாணவர்கள் எங்க வட்டத்துக்குள்ள வந்தாங்க, வளர்ந்தாங்க. இப்போ அதுக்கான பலனை மனதார உணர்றோம்" என்று பூரித்த சரஸ்வதி, பள்ளியின் செயல்வழிக் கற்றல் (ஏ.பி.எல்) முறை வகுப்புகளுக்கு நம்மை அழைத்துச் சென்றார்.

ஒவ்வொரு வகுப்புக்கும் வெளியேயும் மாணவர்கள் வரிசைப்படுத்தி அடுக்கியிருந்த ஸ்கூல் பேக்குகளும், காலணிகளும் அவ்வளவு நேர்த்தி! பள்ளி வளாகத்தில் எங்குமே குப்பைகளைக் காணமுடியவில்லை. எல்லாவற்றையும்விட ஹைலைட்... பள்ளியில் அவர்கள் நடத்தும் 'மாதிரி அமைச்சரவை'!

"எங்க பள்ளியில ஒவ்வொரு ஆசிரியையும் ஒவ்வொரு துறைக்கு 'அமைச்சரா' பொறுப்பேற்று வேலைகளைப் பகிர்ந்துக்கறோம். துறை சார்ந்த விஷயங்களை மாணவர்களோட மனசுலயும் பசுமரத்தாணி போல பதிய வைக்கிறோம்" என்றபடியே, "சுகாதாரத்துறை 'அமைச்சர்' ரேணுகா, சுகாதாரத்துறை 'இணை அமைச்சர்' சுகன்யாதேவி, வெளியுறவுத்துறை மற்றும் மின்துறை 'அமைச்சர்' கதிரவன், உணவுத்துறை 'அமைச்சர்' விஜயராணி, நீர்வளத்துறை 'அமைச்சர்' ரஸியா பேகம், விளையாட்டு மற்றும் நூலகத் துறை 'அமைச்சர்' சுமதி, பாதுகாப்புத்துறை 'அமைச்சர்' சாரதா, தோட்டக் கலைத் துறை 'அமைச்சர்' ஈஸ்வரி" என்று 'அமைச்சர்'களை நமக்கு அறிமுகப்படுத்தினார் சரஸ்வதி.

அவரைத் தொடர்ந்த சுகாதாரத்துறை 'இணை அமைச்சர்' சுகன்யாதேவி, "தர்மபுரி மாவட்டம், பெண்ணாகரம் யூனியன்ல இருக்கற மலை கிராமமான மழையூர்ல ஈராசிரியர் பள்ளியில வேலை பார்த்தவ நான். அதனால பின் தங்கின கிராமத்துப் பள்ளிகளோட நிலைமை எனக்கு ஏற்கெனவே பரிச்சயம். 'இதை எல்லாம் எப்படி சரிசெய்யப் போறோம்?'ங்கற மலைப்பு இல்லாம, முழு மனசோட அதுக்கான வேலைகள்ல என்னையும் இணைச்சுக்கிட்டேன்.

தமிழ் எழுத்துக்களையே சரியா எழுத தெரியாத நிலையில இருந்த பிள்ளைங்க, இன்னிக்கு ஆங்கில அறிவுலயும் சிறந்து விளங்கறதப் பார்க்கும்போது, ரொம்ப பெருமையா இருக்கு. எங்க ஹெச்.எம். வேலை நாட்கள்ல தினமும் மதியம் 1 - 2 மணி மற்றும், மாலை 4.30 - 5.30 மணிக்கு 'ஸ்போக்கன் இங்கிலீஷ்' வகுப்புகளை எடுக்கறாங்க. அதனால்தான் ஒரு 'மெட்ரிக்' பள்ளியோட தரத்தை எங்க பள்ளியில் கொண்டுவர முடிஞ்சுது!" என்று பெருமையோடு சொன்னார்.

இங்கே படிக்கும் மாணவர்களின் படிப்பு நின்று போவதற்கு, பொருளாதாரம் ஒரு தடையாக இருந்துவிடக் கூடாது என்பதற்காக அக்கறையோடு பல ஏற்பாடுகளை செய்திருக்கிறார் சரஸ்வதி. அதில் ஒன்று... வசதி, வாய்ப்புகளோடு இருக்கும் பழைய மாணவர்களை சேர்த்துக் கொண்டது. அந்த வகையில் இன்றைய மாணவர்களுக்கு இலவசமாக நோட்டு, புத்தகங்கள் வழங்கி வருகிறார் பழைய மாணவர் செந்தில்.

"இருபது வருஷத்துக்கு முன்ன இந்த ஸ்கூல்ல படிச்சேன். அன்னிக்கு ஸ்கூலோட நிலைமை ரொம்பவே மோசம். இப்போ ஆசிரியர்களால அங்க மிகப் பெரிய மாற்றங்கள் நடந்திருக்கு. அந்த சந்தோஷத்துல நானும் பங்கெடுத்துக்க என்னால ஆன பொருளாதார உதவிகளைச் செய்றேன்..." என்றார் செந்தில் அடக்கமான வார்த்தைகளில்.

மெட்ரிக்குலேஷன் பள்ளியிலிருந்து இடம் மாறி இங்கே சேர்ந்திருப்பவர்களில் ஒருவர் சாராதஸ்ரீன். அவருடைய தந்தை சம்சுதீன் நம்மிடம், "எங்க பூர்வீகமே இந்த ஊர்தான். பத்து பதினைஞ்சு வருஷத்துக்கு முன்ன இருந்ததைவிட இப்ப இந்த ஸ்கூல் நல்லாயிருக்கு. அதனாலதான் 'மெட்ரிக்' ஸ்கூல்ல படிச்சுட்டிருந்த எம்பொண்ண, இந்த ஸ்கூல்ல சேர்த்தோம்" என்று சொன்னார்.

மொத்தம் 345 மாணவ, மாணவியர் இங்கே படிக்கிறார்கள். "எங்க ஸ்கூல் சூப்பர் ஸ்கூல்தானே!" என்று அவர்கள் கேட்பதைப் போலவே... தமிழகத்தில் இருக்கும் அனைத்து பள்ளி மாணவர்களும் கேட்க முடியாதா என்ன? என்ன, கூட்டணி பலமாக இருக்கவேண்டும்... மானூர் ஆசிரியர் கூட்டணியைப் போல!

அவள் விகடன் 28-ஜனவரி-2011