There is too much paranoia and hatred going around. As a coastal state TN would have been more developed than landlocked 'cowbelt' states irrespective of government.

South already has a high rate of urbanization while interior states need better urban development. That's why these new cities in interior states.
You should be happy because this will reduce the northie migrant workers in TN :lol:

There is too much paranoia and hatred going around. As a coastal state TN would have been more developed than landlocked 'cowbelt' states irrespective of government.

South already has a high rate of urbanization while interior states need better urban development. That's why these new cities in interior states.
You should be happy because this will reduce the northie migrant workers in TN :lol:

Relax Marathaman, I am sure he was just kidding.

No it's okay. People will always complain. If center develops only coastal cities then all the migrant workers will come and flood TN cities like Chinese coastal cities. Then they will blame center for altering the demographics.

No it's okay. People will always complain. If center develops only coastal cities then all the migrant workers will come and flood TN cities like Chinese coastal cities. Then they will blame center for altering the demographics.

hmmm I am hoping that happens someday. I would love to have a few Shenzens on the coast of TN someday :)

^^I am going to give you a shock.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8278315/China-to-create-largest-mega-city-in-the-world-with-42-million-people.html

^^Such things cannot happen in India because everybody speaks different languages. Delhi-Mumbai industrial corridor is the best solution for urbanization in interior states. Mumbai is already a cosmopolitan city and Marathi/Hindi are similar enough with same script so can accommodate migrants from North.

If people from UP belt migrate in millions to TN then it will change the politics of the state and cause lot of tensions.

Some times I get a feeling that Chinese are way too ambitious.

^^Such things cannot happen in India because everybody speaks different languages. Delhi-Mumbai industrial corridor is the best solution for urbanization in interior states. Mumbai is already a cosmopolitan city and Marathi/Hindi are similar enough with same script so can accommodate migrants from North.

If people from UP belt migrate in millions to TN then it will change the politics of the state and cause lot of tensions.

But the plan looks way too puny to my mind. 17500 crores for 7 cities. 2500 crores for a city. At best it can be something like an integrated township and at worst, it will end up as real estate business and this plan will facilitate large scale acquisition of cheap agricultural land.

^Ask SSCAddict for details. He keeps track of all megaprojects.

At last, there is some good news for the bruised souls in TN.

Thanks for posting.

wow pattai nammam for southern states by central government. Only congress can do such wonders! Imagine if this party was ruling Tamilnadu now with no dravidian parties...

*education might have become under central gvt control
*Nill investment....
*Hindi might have become the state language
*tamilnadu might have been sold to srilanka....

if neither dmk or admk supports this party, it will face natural death in the state. thatha is developing this party at the cost of his own party for his own family interest.

:nuts:

Arul!

Why are you getting so frustrated? Cool down Yaar!

Chennai Bangalore Highway has a similar plan and it may happen. Please be positive.

^^

just a frustration on congress government, Nothing else.

^^I am going to give you a shock.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8278315/China-to-create-largest-mega-city-in-the-world-with-42-million-people.html

wow! thats my fav belt in China... Guangzhou is not a branded city in China like Shanghai or Beijing or Shenzhen... but Guangzhou is the main cultural point/capital of richest province of China. i.e Guangdong.

I hope Chennai-Bengaluru forms such megalapolis in future.

No it's okay. People will always complain. If center develops only coastal cities then all the migrant workers will come and flood TN cities like Chinese coastal cities. Then they will blame center for altering the demographics.
+1.

But the plan looks way too puny to my mind. 17500 crores for 7 cities. 2500 crores for a city. At best it can be something like an integrated township and at worst, it will end up as real estate business and this plan will facilitate large scale acquisition of cheap agricultural land.
Even the Chennai airport modernization costs more than Rs.2500 crores. :lol:

Are they gonna develop housing board flats everywhere and call it a new city? :lol:

See, even if Congress or any other national party is there, the people’s representatives will only be locals, right? They will have priority for their state, right? Anyway this is my personal opinion only based on the example of my state.


Frankly speaking, Congress workers in TN have no idea who their leader is.. Every now and then there will be announcement of one leader and suddenly they will be removed and another person will be instated. Also it is formed of many groups. Erstwhile TMC(Tamil Maanila congress) has a group under GK Vasan, a group under Thangabalu, a group under EVKS elangovan, a group under P.Chidambaram, a group under Mani sankar ayyar and so on. Of these all except Thangabalu were/are ministers. They have not brought in big investments as AK Antony did for KL. GK Vasan is doing something but too early to comment about him.

On the other hand if you take TR Baalu, Dayanidhi maran etc have brought in unimaginable amount of investments in the past 8-9 yrs(keeping apart corruption).

The advantage of a regional party is that you can command even CG as DMK did and doing to CG. But if Congress/BJP has ministers from the state they will be controlled by their leaders in Delhi (BJP's situation is worse than Congress in terms of leadership in TN) and hence degree of freedom is low. I do not think hereafter Congress/BJP can stand on its own without the help of DMK/ADMK and actually this will only be a good factor for TN.

Dont worry we have Japanese government to look after us.

Absolutely. Japan and Korea investments should be brought in more for improving infrastructure. No point in begging unresponsive CG.

Ironically, TN is what it is because of some visionary congress leaders. The literacy rate of TN was 11% (to compare, Kerala had 45%) at the time of independence. Leaders like Rajaji and Kamaraj had the foresight to start large number of schools, introduced noon meals and concentrated on improving the livelihood of the people. Today TN has 80% literacy. Most of the 20% are those who belonged to the 90% at the time of independence. In other words, Those visionary leaders made sure almost everyone born after independence went to school (when there was not a culture of sending kids to schools).

Kamajar was gem of a politician. No wonder why he was called as 'kingmaker'. But there is no such visionary leaders now and there wont be. 1965 anti-hindi riots and 1967 elections changed TN and I think its better to continue with these regional politics as far as TN is concerned.

^^Such things cannot happen in India because everybody speaks different languages. Delhi-Mumbai industrial corridor is the best solution for urbanization in interior states. Mumbai is already a cosmopolitan city and Marathi/Hindi are similar enough with same script so can accommodate migrants from North.

If people from UP belt migrate in millions to TN then it will change the politics of the state and cause lot of tensions.

Coastal cities/states have much development obviously. Ports attract more investments in terms of industries. There is no wonder why the states of TN/AP/MH/Guj has a lot of industries.

You can ofcourse create new cities for betterment of people from northern part of India. If development was the statement for such corridor proposals then why they are not giving importance to Chennai-Blr corridor? Why are they continuously ignoring NE states? Why cant they create a corridor connecting all the NE state capitals? This will bring in more employement and prosperity to that region thereby controlling migration from NE and helping people to rather stay at their home cities itself.

Chennai - Blr- Hbad are only three metros in India which are close to each other with huge contributions to growth of india. creating corridors between these cities will help the people from these states thereby controlling emigration from these states to rest of India and world. Creating corridors will reduce migration but such corridors should be creating in all possible parts of India. Not only between Delhi and Mumbai but also in south, east and north-east india.

Arul, isn’t this more of an exaggeration?

Regarding your SriLankan reference, I agree, there is some indifference outside TN when it comes to the plight of Tamils in SriLanka as well as Tamil fishermen. Anyway there is no point in blaming Congress/Centre alone. It is true even with regards to the neighbouring states. I am not much sure about the reasons.

Coming to the State and Central Governments, my personal feeling is that there would not be much difference if National parties like Congress were in power in TN/elected as MPs from the state rather than the state/regional parties like DMK/AIADMK. Of course, not sure about the education of Hindi. Anyway just like personal preferences, it is all regional/local choices.

See, even if Congress or any other national party is there, the people’s representatives will only be locals, right? They will have priority for their state, right? Anyway this is my personal opinion only based on the example of my state.

For example, I would say the Congress MPs/Ministers etc from Kerala had always been good to the state. Even during this tenure of UPA govt, on a comparo scale, Kerala has been benefitted. The establishment of factories/Institutions relating to defence in Kerala after Sri A K Antony became the Defence Minister, like BrahMos Aerospace unit under the Defence Research and Development Organisation in Thiruvananthapuram, BEML’s Defence Vehicle unit in Palakkad, Product Support Centre of BEL India in Kochi, HAL Strategic Avionics unit in Kasaragod, BEL unit in Kasaragod, NIRDESH (National Institute for Research and Development in Defence Shipbuilding) in Kozhikode are examples. The same thing with Railways, Civil Aviation, etc.
Have you ever observed any reply to any question even to a senior Congress leader? It will always be "The high command will take a decision.". So, even if the people's representatives are from the states, it is still the "high command" (sitting on top of Mt.Everest? :nuts:) that will take the decision. This means, it will boil down to what many people think - that states won't have a better regional representation and there will be bias from the Central Govt. overriding the states' interests. See what's happening in AP over Telegana - national level parties have joined the mix and diluted the regional parties resulting in utter confusion and bottlenecks to resolve a regional problem.

I always believe that what happened in TN in 1967 was the best thing for the state - the first regional party to take control of a State Govt and providing a nice balance between the CG and SG. However, nothing remains good for long. Things changed over time and people can't relish these benefits anymore. Yet, that 'one event' in 1967 was required to change the face of Indian polity. :cheers:

When most other developed states of today were being ruled by national parties for a very very long time before some regional parties took over, the case of TN is totally different - a very very long time of regional party rule, yet, the state is amongst the most developed in the country on all fronts. All these were because of bureaucrats from TN and politicians from the state who demanded a good share of the benefits based on performance. :cheers: Of late, these are for political interests but the initial years were totally different.

Coastal cities/states have much development obviously. Ports attract more investments in terms of industries. There is no wonder why the states of TN/AP/MH/Guj has a lot of industries.

You can ofcourse create new cities for betterment of people from northern part of India. If development was the statement for such corridor proposals then why they are not giving importance to Chennai-Blr corridor? Why are they continuously ignoring NE states? Why cant they create a corridor connecting all the NE state capitals? This will bring in more employement and prosperity to that region thereby controlling migration from NE and helping people to rather stay at their home cities itself.

Chennai - Blr- Hbad are only three metros in India which are close to each other with huge contributions to growth of india. creating corridors between these cities will help the people from these states thereby controlling emigration from these states to rest of India and world. Creating corridors will reduce migration but such corridors should be creating in all possible parts of India. Not only between Delhi and Mumbai but also in south, east and north-east india.

Chennai Bangalore corridor is nowhere as important as Delhi-Mumbai corridor which will not only connect two of India's most important cities but also affect the maximum number of people and bring urbanization to some of the most backward parts of India - Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh. If it doesn't immediately pass through your state doesn't mean it won't affect it. India's internal economy is interconnected. Prosperity in one region will benefit other region by increasing consumer demand.

Besides, Bangalore-Chennai corridor is also in the pipleline as far as I know. Frankly, a lot of India's important institutions have been located in the south since Independence. If anything, Central and North has been totally ignored in terms of development. If you're too selfish to think beyond simplistic thoughts like "They are getting chocolate why can't I also get chocolate" then nobody can help you.

I always believe that what happened in TN in 1967 was the best thing for the state - the first regional party to take control of a State Govt and providing a nice balance between the CG and SG. However, nothing remains good for long. Things changed over time and people can't relish these benefits anymore. Yet, that 'one event' in 1967 was required to change the face of Indian polity.


Small correction, best thing for the nation.
Else those hindi chauvinists would have achieved their next goal: to make hindi the only medium of education and killing English, without which there would be no IT revolution in India.

Intentional or otherwise, we all are beneficiary of what they fought for.

--
If Anniyan is reading, he would post that kamat's article, which changed my opinion too.

Chennai Bangalore corridor is nowhere as important as Delhi-Mumbai corridor which will not only connect two of India's most important cities but also affect the maximum number of people and bring urbanization to some of the most backward parts of India - Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh. If it doesn't immediately pass through your state doesn't mean it won't affect it. India's internal economy is interconnected. Prosperity in one region will benefit other region by increasing consumer demand.

Besides, Bangalore-Chennai corridor is also in the pipleline as far as I know. Frankly, a lot of India's important institutions have been located in the south since Independence. If anything, Central and North has been totally ignored in terms of development. If you're too selfish to think beyond simplistic thoughts like "They are getting chocolate why can't I also get chocolate" then nobody can help you.

^^ +1. wlbkng probably wanted to say that Chn and Blore are closer to each other than Mum-Del and so implementing, Chn-Blr will be a lot quicker and easier. I don't see a point why we can't do both of these together.

As far as I can see, CG is more interested in Mum-Del and TN Govt is more interested in the Chn-Blr one. Above all, the Japanese are interested to pay for both of them. :lol:

Central Government think from what will benefit maximum number of people. That is obviously Del-Bom corridor. TN government thinks what will benefit TN. Nothing wrong with either but plz stop treating it like a zero-sum game.

Small correction, best thing for the nation.
Else those hindi chauvinists would have achieved their next goal: to make hindi the only medium of education and killing English, without which there would be no IT revolution in India.

Intentional or otherwise, we all are beneficiary of what they fought for.

--
If Anniyan is reading, he would post that kamat's article, which changed my opinion too.

There is even an article in some English magazine which links to Annadurai's stand on Hindi and English and how it helped English to stay in the country thereby contributing to the IT revolution indirectly. It was posted in this forum a while back.

To your point that it is best thing for the nation, I would say that it may not be true because outside of TN no one realizes that and they blame TN for all language crisis in the nation. So, until they realize that, I wouldn't agree that the whole nation is benefited. However, TN has already benefited. :cheers:

However, one thing is true - it is Dravidian revolution that gave birth to regional parties elsewhere in India by influencing them indirectly. One example is the Shiv Sena in MH. I am not saying that what they are doing is good or bad. I am only quoting the result.

In any case both corridor projects are in the conceptual stage and years if not decades away from completion so it's rather early to complain about being neglected.

Besides, Bangalore-Chennai corridor is also in the pipleline as far as I know. Frankly, a lot of India's important institutions have been located in the south since Independence. If anything, Central and North has been totally ignored in terms of development. If you're too selfish to think beyond simplistic thoughts like "They are getting chocolate why can't I also get chocolate" then nobody can help you.

I think there is a small misunderstanding of my point. I did not say/mean that I don't like Mum-Del corridor and against it. My point is that CG should give equal importance and inclusive growth. There is no favouring in one separate region. This has nothing to do with your chocolate concept.

Chennai-Blr point is also proposed by SG but there is no financial and firm commitment from CG. That is my point. I did also mention about northeast. Migrations do happen from there to rest of India. Moreover I was not limiting my idea to only Chennai-B'lore but creating something like a triangular corridor between Chennai-bangalore-hyderabad is doing something keeping future in mind.

^^ +1. wlbkng probably wanted to say that Chn and Blore are closer to each other than Mum-Del and so implementing, Chn-Blr will be a lot quicker and easier. I don't see a point why we can't do both of these together.

As far as I can see, CG is more interested in Mum-Del and TN Govt is more interested in the Chn-Blr one. Above all, the Japanese are interested to pay for both of them. :lol:

yes you got my point. :cheers:

There is even an article in some English magazine which links to Annadurai's stand on Hindi and English and how it helped English to stay in the country thereby contributing to the IT revolution indirectly. It was posted in this forum a while back.

To your point that it is best thing for the nation, I would say that it may not be true because outside of TN no one realizes that and they blame TN for all language crisis in the nation. So, until they realize that, I wouldn't agree that the whole nation is benefited. However, TN has already benefited. :cheers:

However, one thing is true - it is Dravidian revolution that gave birth to regional parties elsewhere in India by influencing them indirectly. One example is the Shiv Sena in MH. I am not saying that what they are doing is good or bad. I am only quoting the result.

Who was better - Annadurai or Ambedkar? :)

Who was better - Annadurai or Ambedkar? :)
Apples and oranges. But both are good.

Who was better - Annadurai or Ambedkar? :)

Both are in different league. It would not be fair to compare each other. Each one is king in their ideologies.

I think they both had positives and negatives. In hindsight, both of them had some absurd theories but they fought for social upliftment in their respective capacities. Both were against Gandhi's ideas at some level yet worked with him at various points of time. It's quite interesting to follow their life histories.

Who was better - Annadurai or Ambedkar? :)
What is the logic behind the comparison? We are talking about historical language conflicts in independent India. How is Ambedkar a part of this? :nuts:

Both were primarily working for social upliftment of lower castes. Annadurai used Tamil language as the tool to overthrow the upper castes while Ambedkar used Buddhist religion.

Both were primarily working for social upliftment of lower castes. Annadurai used Tamil language as the tool to overthrow the upper castes while Ambedkar used Buddhist religion.
Annadurai went one step further and took on the regionalism thing (good or bad).

Hmm...but those were different times. Ambedkar initaillly wanted to create a new country for Buddhists, but later he dropped the idea. Political situation was not clear or decided at the time.

You shouldn't be comparing Ambedkar with Anna...you should compare him with Periyar. It was Periyar who formed the Dravidian Movement which was an offshoot of a very small Justice Party in the 30s. Periyar was a critic of almost everything around him. He wasn't interested in launching a political party and stayed with his movement like Gandhiji. He also differed with Gandhiji in the method of delivery of his social agenda.

Anna was shrewd guy. He knew that things won't change totally with just social movements and they have to be political, especially during his time. This is because the nation had already seen lots of social movements especially the one by Gandhiji. He also realized that he cannot target his own people and their practices (Tamil and Hindu people) and gain votes. So, he started DMK as a political party of the Dravidian Movement but made sure that he doesn't show his party as an evil in front of everyone by tearing down temple idols, affecting Hindu sentiments, preaching atheism in the Land of Temples (TN) - basically the things that Periyar did. DMK was fighting just untouchability and showcased itself as the only savior of the masses. To his luck, he found that a loser (you all know who it was! ;)) in Delhi wanted to make Hindi compulsory in the country. So, Anna took to the anti-Hindi stance because this time he was not fighting against his own Tamil people; he was fighting with the Northies and used that as a plank to strengthen the Aryan-Dravidian divide that helped his party. Added to that, he delivered the 'practical and tangible things' like rice for Re.1, land reforms of distributing lands to the poor, education for all etc. which saw the total whitewash of Cong from TN in 1967.

Ambedkar on the other hand used his education and his position as the Head of the Drafting Commission to deliver his social agenda. If you see the current state, Ambedkar's political party is nowhere to be seen in mainstream politics. However, his principles have been used by many political parties over the decades to become successful.

Guys, have a look at this,

http://www.nation.lk/2011/01/30/inter2.htm

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article1138070.ece

P. Thamarai Kannan, Joint Commissioner of Police (Central), Chennai, has been chosen for the Professor Sir Anthony Bottoms Scholarship.

Mr. Kannan was among 97 IPS officers from India who participated in a training programme, which the Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel National Police Academy organised in collaboration with Cambridge University.

During the two-week stay in London, the officers presented a strategic leadership case study. Mr. Kannan was one of the two officers chosen for the scholarship to attend a postgraduate course in Applied Criminology and Police Management offered by Cambridge University.

...

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/tn-women-scientists-honoured-awards-797

Chennai, Jan. 29: From atomic nuclear reactors to hybrid cashewnut seedlings… women scientists from Tamil Nadu show they can excel men in all fields of science and technology. The list of scientists who have been honoured with Young Women Scientist Awards for 2009 could definitely evoke awe among all.
Tiruchy born R. Mythili, a material scientist working with IGCAR, Kalpakkam, has the solution for a problem which has been haunting the country’s nuclear scientists. She has successfully developed a titanium-based alloy which could be used in reprocessing the spent fuel generated in reactors. The material is capable of withstanding any kind of corrosion. “The reprocessing processes will be done in containers made of this material,” said Dr Mythili, a Ph.D. in physics and material science. She has been selected for the best scientist award in Physical Sciences.
Prof Jaideep Mahendra of Meenakshi Ammal Dental College and Research Institute, Chennai, has been honoured for establishing the link between oral hygiene and heart disorders. “We proved that oral hygiene is a must to keep one’s heart healthy,” said Prof Mahendra. She succeeded in isolating pathogenic molecules from oral bacteria in the hearts of patients who have been directed to undergo open heart surgeries.
Ms K. Sujatha of the School of Biological Sciences, Madurai Kamaraj University, has been selected for the award in the category of life sciences.
“This honour is in recognition of my work towards developing biopolymers, an alternative to plastic,” said Ms Sujatha. The uniqueness of the biopolymers is that they could be degraded by microorganisms present in the atmosphere.
Dr Kezi Selva Vijila, Christian College of Engineering and Technology, used her expertise in software development for evolving a mechanism for noise-free detection of electrocardiograms of foetus.

...

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/u-turn-cpm-backs-gm-crops-854

Jan. 26: The CPI(M) has made a U-turn in its stand against genetically modified crops. The party, hitherto fighting against the introduction of Bt cotton and Bt brinjal, now says only genetically-modified crops can meet the food requirements of an ever-increasing population.
“The Centre should set up public sector undertakings to produce and market seeds of GM crops at subsidised prices,” said S. Ramachandran Pillai, member, politburo, the highest decision-making unit of the CPI(M). Mr Pillai, who is also the general secretary of the All-India Kisan Sabha, had vehemently opposed the concept of GM crops, terming it as anti-farmer and anti-poor.

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http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/tn-gets-due-share-padma-awards-612

Jan. 25: Eminent legal luminary and former solicitor general of India Dr. K. Parasaran has been awarded the Padma Vibushan for the year 2010. An alumnus of Hindu High School and Presidency College, Mr Parasaran began his practice at the Madras high court and went all the way up in his career to become the Solicitor General of India in 1980.
Another prominent Chennaiite in the list of Padma Bhushan awardees during this year is the veteran playback singer S.P. Balasubramanian whose melodious voice has rendered life to countless songs in thousands of movies over the past decades.
Speaking to this newspaper, SPB appeared modest in urging the government to consider conferring such awards to seniors in the field. “I am grateful to the government for having chosen me for this award,” he said expressing happiness. He however, said the government could think of giving the award to the several seniors in the field.

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http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/tn-likely-witness-milk-famine-production-dips-605

Jan. 25: There has been a dip in milk production in Tamil Nadu this year. Officials in the dairy department say that they have faced five per cent shortfall in the milk production. They said Aavin, the state-run milk cooperative, received 20 lakh litres every day during 2009-10 and now there is a shortfall of 10,000 litres in various districts.
Requesting anonymity, a senior Aavin officer said, “Grazing lands are shrinking and the real estate boom has turned several farmlands into concrete jungles. Apart from this crisis, heavy rains which hit the state last year resulted in a dip in milk production by about five per cent in the state.”
But the official ruled out fear of milk shortage, saying, “Efforts are on to increase production. We are maintaining the supply of milk to all our cardholders without fail.”
However, M.G. Rajendran, general secretary of the Tamil Nadu milk producers’ welfare association said, “The native cow breeds are becoming extinct. The hybrid cows need heavy fodder to provide milk. Dairy farmers cannot afford to buy the fodder and so sell their cattle in bulk. This has certainly hit milk production in the state.”

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http://www.tamilsagainstgenocide.org/

His speech when he was the President of India. :cheers:

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Yaadhum oorae, yaavarum kaeleer! :cheers:

Who was better - Annadurai or Ambedkar? :)

To be honest, this question caught everybody by surprise. If you came up with this yourself, congrats - you are an original thinker. Believe me, thats an extremely rare species. I would love to contribute but I am data poor on this subject. So i will just be a spectator.

Yes I do agree that Punjabis in Pak and Bengalis in Bangladesh are suffering and as an Indian I feel bad about it. But see the level of problem in SL. Comparatively its more than Pak and Bdesh put together. So far in 27000+ tamilians were killed, and this is fact from wiki but no one knows the real numbers. Even they are brothers and sisters to us. When these things happen and the our own Indian brothers at the centre are not willing to solve this problem, then what is the solution? Keep killing all the tamils in SL and make it a country only for sinhalese?


I accidentally saw this thread here, well I have to tell something. Yep, I have heard about both TN fishermen incidents, I feel sorry about them. But actually SL Navy has involved such incidents? I also smell there's some other third party which is trying to make dispute between Sri Lankan and Indian governments. Both incidents has happened with in few days, it's really doubtful. What India should do at this moment is let their Indian Navy to joint-patrolling with SL Navy, so they can catch who is actually behind this, also it will help to prevent TN fishermen who are trying to come SL waters Or other drug smugglers etc. so both countries get advantage from it!

Some TN people have no idea about Sri Lanka and Sri Lankan Tamils. Tamils are NOT the only minority group in Sri Lanka, There is 6-7 % of Muslim community here, also Malay, Burghers and more ethnic. Everyone has the same right to live any part of the country, Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims live in all districts with different percentages. Sri Lankan districts and provinces ARE NOT based on ethnic base, we're just like most of other countries in the world. India has divided areas by ethnic base, I personally believe it has some risk and it effects other ethnic communities, if something happens it will end up with different states!

We had a problem with a terrorist group called "Tamil Tigers", SL government has responsibility to protect all citizens so they act against the terrorism. Some people talk about huge numbers have got killed etc if SL army wanted to make massacre all Tamils then why they're rehabilitating "Tamil Tiger" carders over than 11000 ? Already 5000 of them are back to their families, SL government is providing education and facilities to improve their skills to enjoy normal life style.
Most of Sri Lankan Tamils are enjoying better life with solid homes and facilities than most Tamilnadu Tamils, :) how many of you have visited Sri Lanka?? Visit here and see it your own eyes! :)

We respect all minority communities who live here,
In Sri Lankan flag- Orange represents the Tamils, Green represents Muslims. ( I don't know Tamilnadu Tamils have such a represent in Indian flag, or other ethnic)
All government documents come with Sinhala/Tamil and English.
All Sri Lankan coins/banknotes come with Sinhala/Tamil and English. Tamilnadu Tamils has to read it in English/Hindi right?
SL Tamils has 5 national holidays, SL Muslims has 3 national holidays, not only minorities we respect religions also, so there are 3-4 national holidays for Catholics apart from other national holidays. Buddhist temples, Tamils temples, catholic churches, mosques are can find around the country, if you come to my city you'll see dozens! Come and see......! :)

Just google this, "best country in south asia".

here's the first link which I got on first page , see the comments of foreigners who have visited here!
http://www.bestcountriestolive.com/best-countries-to-live/best-south-asia-country-to-retire-in

^^ Looks like an advertisement. But will be happy if facts are true. But no one can believe that those facts are true.

All Sri Lankan coins/banknotes come with Sinhala/Tamil and English. Tamilnadu Tamils has to read it in English/Hindi right?

Wrong. Indian currency notes carry 15 languages including Tamil in it. You probably have no idea how an Indian currency notes look like.

Most of Sri Lankan Tamils are enjoying better life with solid homes and facilities than most Tamilnadu Tamils
Sure that this is an advertisement.. Even god will keep laughing when he sees this.

India has divided areas by ethnic base, I personally believe it has some risk and it effects other ethnic communities, if something happens it will end up with different states!
Dude dont talk rubbish. Read Indian history. We have 28 different states and more languages than that. You have only 2 language and you have a civilian war.

Now stop spamming my friend

I accidentally saw this thread here, well I have to tell something. Yep, I have heard about both TN fishermen incidents, I feel sorry about them. But actually SL Navy has involved such incidents? I also smell there's some other third party which is trying to make dispute between Sri Lankan and Indian governments. Both incidents has happened with in few days, it's really doubtful. What India should do at this moment is let their Indian Navy to joint-patrolling with SL Navy, so they can catch who is actually behind this, also it will help to prevent TN fishermen who are trying to come SL waters Or other drug smugglers etc. so both countries get advantage from it!

Some TN people have no idea about Sri Lanka and Sri Lankan Tamils. Tamils are NOT the only minority group in Sri Lanka, There is 6-7 % of Muslim community here, also Malay, Burghers and more ethnic. Everyone has the same right to live any part of the country, Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims live in all districts with different percentages. Sri Lankan districts and provinces ARE NOT based on ethnic base, we're just like most of other countries in the world. India has divided areas by ethnic base, I personally believe it has some risk and it effects other ethnic communities, if something happens it will end up with different states!

We had a problem with a terrorist group called "Tamil Tigers", SL government has responsibility to protect all citizens so they act against the terrorism. Some people talk about huge numbers have got killed etc if SL army wanted to make massacre all Tamils then why they're rehabilitating "Tamil Tiger" carders over than 11000 ? Already 5000 of them are back to their families, SL government is providing education and facilities to improve their skills to enjoy normal life style.
Most of Sri Lankan Tamils are enjoying better life with solid homes and facilities than most Tamilnadu Tamils, :) how many of you have visited Sri Lanka?? Visit here and see it your own eyes! :)

We respect all minority communities who live here,
In Sri Lankan flag- Orange represents the Tamils, Green represents Muslims. ( I don't know Tamilnadu Tamils have such a represent in Indian flag, or other ethnic)
All government documents come with Sinhala/Tamil and English.
All Sri Lankan coins/banknotes come with Sinhala/Tamil and English. Tamilnadu Tamils has to read it in English/Hindi right?
SL Tamils has 5 national holidays, SL Muslims has 3 national holidays, not only minorities we respect religions also, so there are 3-4 national holidays for Catholics apart from other national holidays. Buddhist temples, Tamils temples, catholic churches, mosques are can find around the country, if you come to my city you'll see dozens! Come and see......! :)

Just google this, "best country in south asia".

here's the first link which I got on first page , see the comments of foreigners who have visited here!
http://www.bestcountriestolive.com/best-countries-to-live/best-south-asia-country-to-retire-in

The smileys in your posts really irritates me. If a Third party is doing, Why always Indian Fishermen are shot dead? Why Srilankan Fishermen are not given any trouble?

If Tamilians have representation in National flag does it mean they are living happily? Here there is no seperate Color for a certain category of people and differentiate into a seperate group.

If a Srilankan Tamil saying that we are getting good Education, good medical facilities, good place of stay and food I will be happy rather by saying from someone else.

^^ That guy is a spammer dude. Ignore him.

This is turning into major political issue:

Sushma Swaraj to visit family of killed fisherman in TN (http://www.sify.com/news/sushma-swaraj-to-visit-family-of-killed-fisherman-in-tn-news-national-lb4q4dcihjd.html)

New Delhi: Senior Bharatiya Janata Party leader Sushma Swaraj will go to Nagapattinam in Tamil Nadu Feb 4 to meet the family of a fisherman who was 'tortured and killed' allegedly by the Sri Lankan Navy.

BJP slams 'casual attitude' of Central Government towards fishermen deaths (http://www.sify.com/news/bjp-slams-casual-attitude-of-central-government-towards-fishermen-deaths-news-national-lb4sOdfdeib.html)

Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) President Nitin Gadkari on Sunday criticized the attitude of the Central Government against the killing of innocent fishermen by the Sri Lankan Navy.

Addressing the media in Chennai, Gadkari said: "It is very alarming to note that more than 500 fishermen have lost their lives in the bullets of Sri Lankan navy while fishing in the coastal water of Tamil Nadu. During this visit in Chennai it is noticed that there is sheathing anger in the fishing community."

Fishermen killings: Nirupama Rao visits Colombo (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/fishermen-killings-nirupama-rao-visits-colombo/141930-3.html)

Nagapattinam, Tamil Nadu: Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao visited Colombo on Sunday to discuss fishermen killings with Sri Lankan government. Back home, the killing of fishermen is now a big political issue ahead of assembly elections in Tamil Nadu.

^^ Read this,

http://www.nation.lk/2011/01/30/inter2.htm

the SL minister is blabbering nonsense like corals and stuff.

What visits?, what talks?

I beleive if you are strong, it SHOWS. You need not visit or talk!! SIZE should SHOW.

If you are strong, you should flex your muscles. Your neighbours, your friends, your relatives, your enemies and everybody should know you well and the damage you can cause to him if messed up with you. You need not hit them, they should be wary by just your look.

BTW no point, India has always been a 'soft' state. Personally I do not follow or believe in 'Gandhiji' or his principles. And I find always amusing to hear Indian policy that 'we will not hit first'. What use, when the other guy chop your head off with his first blow, can you hit second?? Offence is the best defence.

This is turning into major political issue:

Hope it puts pressure on thatha to realize there are people in his state instead of just his goonda son in Madura to appease.

However I am scared that Jaya will make a political hay and get power and ignore this SL issue as she always had, as her only life mission is vendetta like the character draupadi and the state would be the victim.

Discussion about inclusive growth on NDTV. Plz watch:

India@Davos: Batting for inclusive growth (http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/ndtv-davos/india-davos-batting-for-inclusive-growth/189493)

^^ Looks like an advertisement. But will be happy if facts are true. But no one can believe that those facts are true.


Wrong. Indian currency notes carry 15 languages including Tamil in it. You probably have no idea how an Indian currency notes look like.


Sure that this is an advertisement.. Even god will keep laughing when he sees this.


Dude dont talk rubbish. Read Indian history. We have 28 different states and more languages than that. You have only 2 language and you have a civilian war.

Now stop spamming my friend

I just let my view here, that's all.
well I haven't recently seen new Indian banknote, I only remember there was some mention in the reverse. sorry about it.

My next door neighbors are Tamils, They mentioned about that.

we had a terrorist problem, and that has come to end.

The smileys in your posts really irritates me. If a Third party is doing, Why always Indian Fishermen are shot dead? Why Srilankan Fishermen are not given any trouble?

If Tamilians have representation in National flag does it mean they are living happily? Here there is no seperate Color for a certain category of people and differentiate into a seperate group.

If a Srilankan Tamil saying that we are getting good Education, good medical facilities, good place of stay and food I will be happy rather by saying from someone else.

That's why I said there should be proper investigation, why Indian government not doing it? I actually like to see who is really behind this.

I mean the respect to minority communities.

Yep, all those mention facilities are better here comparing to other countries in over region.
Yep, ask from Sri Lankan Tamil.

I've nothing to say more, not interest about politics, just only wanted to give some facts here. If you guyz interest about Sri Lanka just check , sri lanka section here. If you have time, sri lanka via Indian eye > http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1129933
Good day!

^The real reason is that SL Navy is acting as executioner. Please don't invent "third party" nonsense.

Sri Lanka is beautiful country but that has no relationship with the actions of SL Navy.

The war is now over, there is no more LTTE, so there is no more excuses for killing innocent people simply for being in the wrong place.

Yep, all those mention facilities are better here comparing to other countries in over region.
Yep, ask from Sri Lankan Tamil.


My flatmate here is a SL Tamilian. I showed him your post. He laughed and commented "Ivar solvadhu unmayenil engal makkal en innum agathigalai veliyeri kondirikkirom?" (If what he tells is truth, then why our people are escaping as refugees still?). He mentioned that Sinhalese are being now settled in northern SL further fuelling tensions (He also told that this is on the advice from Chinese who follow the similar strategy by settling Han immigrants in non-Han majority areas)

He showed some videos which are very disturbing. One is given below..
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http://english.aljazeera.net/video/asia/2010/11/2010111010021857352.html

There are many other videos/website which he showed me which shows such disturbing pictures/news. I do not want to post them here.

We were actually discussing about Indian fishermen but your post is factually false and misleading. Talk all your rubbish in SL forums. There wont be takers here.. There are still innocent people being executed in SL on the suspicion that they operate for LTTE.

What visits?, what talks?

I beleive if you are strong, it SHOWS. You need not visit or talk!! SIZE should SHOW.


Many times they refer India to a sleeping Elephant. It is a huge animal with a small head, A tiny snake with its tongue out looks more menacing.

Order Navy and Coast guard to move around Nagapattinam and Rameswaram if India has a desire to protect its citizens. But it has no intention..That is the fact. As Gadgari said this is just an eyewash(visit)

That's why I said there should be proper investigation, why Indian government not doing it? I actually like to see who is really behind this.

I mean the respect to minority communities.

Yep, all those mention facilities are better here comparing to other countries in over region.
Yep, ask from Sri Lankan Tamil.

I've nothing to say more, not interest about politics, just only wanted to give some facts here. If you guyz interest about Sri Lanka just check , sri lanka section here. If you have time, sri lanka via Indian eye > http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1129933
Good day!

havent you heard of those notorious white vans, cmon dude who are u kidding Tamils in SL will have to disapear and become budhist sinhalese to live in that Island country...

Arul, isn’t this more of an exaggeration?

Regarding your SriLankan reference, I agree, there is some indifference outside TN when it comes to the plight of Tamils in SriLanka as well as Tamil fishermen. Anyway there is no point in blaming Congress/Centre alone. It is true even with regards to the neighbouring states. I am not much sure about the reasons.

Coming to the State and Central Governments, my personal feeling is that there would not be much difference if National parties like Congress were in power in TN/elected as MPs from the state rather than the state/regional parties like DMK/AIADMK. Of course, not sure about the education of Hindi. Anyway just like personal preferences, it is all regional/local choices.

See, even if Congress or any other national party is there, the people’s representatives will only be locals, right? They will have priority for their state, right? Anyway this is my personal opinion only based on the example of my state.

For example, I would say the Congress MPs/Ministers etc from Kerala had always been good to the state. Even during this tenure of UPA govt, on a comparo scale, Kerala has been benefitted. The establishment of factories/Institutions relating to defence in Kerala after Sri A K Antony became the Defence Minister, like BrahMos Aerospace unit under the Defence Research and Development Organisation in Thiruvananthapuram, BEML’s Defence Vehicle unit in Palakkad, Product Support Centre of BEL India in Kochi, HAL Strategic Avionics unit in Kasaragod, BEL unit in Kasaragod, NIRDESH (National Institute for Research and Development in Defence Shipbuilding) in Kozhikode are examples. The same thing with Railways, Civil Aviation, etc.

Sudesh,
Between 1975 and 1990 in those two decades, TN was totally underrepresented in the cabinet we did not even have a single cabinet minister for long time where as we were giving 30 solid Mps + 10 allies, No big projects came, nobody cared about tn because it was easy to retain those 30 mps. TN got some due recognition only after the coalition era.

What visits?, what talks?

I beleive if you are strong, it SHOWS. You need not visit or talk!! SIZE should SHOW.

If you are strong, you should flex your muscles. Your neighbours, your friends, your relatives, your enemies and everybody should know you well and the damage you can cause to him if messed up with you. You need not hit them, they should be wary by just your look.

BTW no point, India has always been a 'soft' state. Personally I do not follow or believe in 'Gandhiji' or his principles. And I find always amusing to hear Indian policy that 'we will not hit first'. What use, when the other guy chop your head off with his first blow, can you hit second?? Offence is the best defence.

From 1980-present more than 500 fisherman were brutally killed by sri lankan govt. There is a Thing called indian costal guard to facilitate srilankan navy to attack rameshwaram fishers (IT DOES THIS JOB SO WELL).aND IF SOMEONE RAISE THEIR VOICE REGARDING THIS ISSUE, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO GIVE EXPLANATION THAT THESE INCIDENTS HAPPEN BECAUSE OF SOME GREEDY FISHERMANS. eVEN IF FISHERMENS CROSS THE BORDERS, WHO R THEY TO KILL OUR CITIZENS, EVEN PAKISTAN COSTAL GUARD WON'T INVOLVE IN THESE KIND OF BARBARIC ACTS (THEY JUST ARREST). iF SUCH INCIDENTS HAD HAPPENED IN cHINA BORDER OR PAK BORDER THE SITUATION WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

...

Sudesh,
Between 1975 and 1990 in those two decades, TN was totally underrepresented in the cabinet we did not even have a single cabinet minister for long time where as we were giving 30 solid Mps + 10 allies, No big projects came, nobody cared about tn because it was easy to retain those 30 mps. TN got some due recognition only after the coalition era.

CONGRESS HAS COMPLETELY LOST ITS HOLD IN TN AND AT PRESENT THERE R MORE FORCES ACTING AGAINST IT. IT IS EVIDENT BY THE WAY THANGABALU AND E.V.K.S WAS DUMPED IN THE ASSEMBLY ELECTIONS (BOTH OF THEM ARE AGAINST LTTE)

BJP trying to woo TN voters:

BJP to take SL Tamil issue to UN
(http://expressbuzz.com/states/tamilnadu/bjp-to-take-sl-tamil-issue-to-un/243523.html)
CHENNAI: Stating that Sri Lankan Tamils issue is not related only to Tamil Nadu, BJP national pr*e*sident Nitin Gadkari on Sa*turday promised that his party would take up the miseries of Sri Lankan Tamils wi*th the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHCR). Presiding over the valedictory of the TN BJP's 'Ta*marai Yatirai,'Gadkari said, "We always support the de*mand of Sri Lankan Tamils for getting fundamental rights. They are part of our family," he added.

Not only BJP, all parties try to get political mileage out of this issue. No one has real concern over fishermen. With the assy elections in the near vicinity, no wonder even if LJD/RJD give voice.. At the end Tamil people are made fools...

It will be good if BJP can get a strong leader from TN. Will be difficult because most media is controlled by DMK/AIADMK. BJP being right-wing nationalist will be very aggressive if Indian citizens are getting killed by neighbouring country.

http://www.picoolio.com/photos/medium/24758-eamqa.jpg

Friends,
I would like to discuss with you all on possible good election candidates who won/lost elections and what is going to be their fate this time.. Please these are my views only..
1. IIM-A guy(whose mother is idly seller in roadshops).. he contested last time as a independent candidate and got 10k votes, i think. He has joined DMDK now.
2. To a extend S.Ve.Sekhar is honest person who did few things to his consituency inspite of without ADMK/DMK support.
3. Ma.fo. Pandiyarajan from virudunagar (DMDK) contested in loksabha
4. few IIT person started the party and got around 10k votes in Mylapore
5. what about "Makkal Sakthi katchi" which is related with Lok Satta party Jai Prakash Narayan
6. what about I.J.K(india Jananayaga katchi)?

It will be good if BJP can get a strong leader from TN. Will be difficult because most media is controlled by DMK/AIADMK. BJP being right-wing nationalist will be very aggressive if Indian citizens are getting killed by neighbouring country.

At present as far as TN is concerned, only minorities determine the outcome of the election as they are the only people who whole heartedly vote for one particular side. Aftermath of Gujarat and orissa incident, no christain or islam will be willing to vote for BJP. Eventually DMK and ADMK are in no mood to accomodate BJP. Also to be honest, the only strong leader that BJP had in TN was thirunavakarasar, but after realizing too late that there is no future for BJP in TN he joined congress.

http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/3112011/31012011-cni-mn-04/15948468.JPG

It will be good if BJP can get a strong leader from TN. Will be difficult because most media is controlled by DMK/AIADMK. BJP being right-wing nationalist will be very aggressive if Indian citizens are getting killed by neighbouring country.

Height of optimism. Between 1998-2004 BJP was in power and Indian fishermen were killed by SL Navy. BJP did nothing that time. Their so-called policy will remain in papers as far as TN is concerned. If there are no elections then BJP would not have bothered to show attention. These killings were happening throughout the past 5 yr DMK period. But that time BJP did not bother about these fishermen.

This report says between 1997-2004, over 100 Indian fishermen were killed by SL. And BJP was in power between 1998-2004. So what they did. Some excerpts from that page. Read more from that page.

One of the strongest assurances came in the year 2000. In response to a letter from the then Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi on November 28, pleading to stop the killings of Tamil Nadu fishermen by the Sri Lankan Navy, the then Prime Minister A. B. Vajpayee of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) led coalition government sent a letter dated December 22, assuring him that that the Indian Government would take steps to stop the killings. But on January 29, 2001 (just over five weeks from the Prime Minister's assurance) the Sri Lankan Navy killed two more fishermen. India did nothing to stop the continued killings. Mr. Vajpayee held the office of Prime Minister for another three years and there were more shootings and killings. Is an Indian Prime Minister's assurance worth anything?

http://www.tamiltribune.com/04/0901.html

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/01/31/20110131a_006107006.jpg

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/01/31/20110131a_006107012.jpg

That's why I said there should be proper investigation, why Indian government not doing it? I actually like to see who is really behind this.

I mean the respect to minority communities.

Yep, all those mention facilities are better here comparing to other countries in over region. Yep, ask from Sri Lankan Tamil.

I've nothing to say more, not interest about politics, just only wanted to give some facts here. If you guyz interest about Sri Lanka just check , sri lanka section here. If you have time, sri lanka via Indian eye > http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1129933
Good day!

I hope you don't even know what is happening. Does any Indian go for Srilanka for Hospitalization or Education? Do you know how many Singaleese students are studying here?

Innocent Tamils are still tortured by you. Again they trouble our Indian Fishermen. If one Singaleese was shot dead by Indian Navy will you keep quite? I know from my Srilankan Tamil friends who are now settled in Canada, how many troubles they have faced.

Please stop spamming.

Order Navy and Coast guard to move around Nagapattinam and Rameswaram if India has a desire to protect its citizens. But it has no intention..That is the fact. As Gadgari said this is just an eyewash(visit)

Yes, Navy and Coast Guard should patrol the seas. This should give confidence to the fishermen. Today also I saw a report in Times of India which the Navy Chief warns pirates of the Somalia Coast not to mess with us , after freeing those kept captive by the pirates and sinking their vessel. If Navy can keep an eye several thousands of kilometers away, why not just under their nose?

Navy’s presence should be deterrent to those who attack Indians. But yes, the Govt should have some sincerity.

Height of optimism. Between 1998-2004 BJP was in power and Indian fishermen were killed by SL Navy. BJP did nothing that time. Their so-called policy will remain in papers as far as TN is concerned. If there are no elections then BJP would not have bothered to show attention. These killings were happening throughout the past 5 yr DMK period. But that time BJP did not bother about these fishermen.

This report says between 1997-2004, over 100 Indian fishermen were killed by SL. And BJP was in power between 1998-2004. So what they did. Some excerpts from that page. Read more from that page.

Karunanidhi is part of govt. If he wants he can put his foot down.

Yes, Navy and Coast Guard should patrol the seas. This should give confidence to the fishermen. Today also I saw a report in Times of India which the Navy Chief warns pirates of the Somalia Coast not to mess with us , after freeing those kept captive by the pirates and sinking their vessel. If Navy can keep an eye several thousands of kilometers away, why not just under their nose?

Navy’s presence should be deterrent to those who attack Indians. But yes, the Govt should have some sincerity.

If killings are happening inside SL territorial waters then they will have to escort the fishing trawlers into SL territorial waters. I suppose there are many thousands of such trawlers so not possible to escort all of them, even if the decision is taken to breach the maritime border...

This is a very strange situation. If we had a border dispute with SL then I guess govt. would use more aggressive language, but it would not have solved the problem either.

Also we need more national leaders from TN. Chidambaram is the only guy who can become PM in the future.

Also we need more national leaders from TN. Chidambaram is the only guy who can become PM in the future.
Though Chidambaram is powerful in congress party, he was unable to win convincingly in LS elections.
He entered Ls through back door by silencing Raja kannappan.

Well those are 'allegations' :). Nonetheless, even Manmohan never won election but he is a very god PM.

Well those are 'allegations' :). Nonetheless, even Manmohan never won election but he is a very god PM.
On what basis, Manmohan is a good PM? he is a good man personally. but he simply watched his cabinet to plunder the wealth of this country. He could not act independently. Congress used his honesty, so that at the backside they can do all illegal activities.
Why the congress not acting on Black money? because the money belongs to people who are either from congress or close aid of congress..

Also we need more national leaders from TN. Chidambaram is the only guy who can become PM in the future.
Chidambaram is a PM material. Ok. However, he can't be a PM because he doesn't know Hindi and I am doubtful if the Northie folks will excuse him just like how they excused H.D.Gowda in the 90s. :ohno: Meanwhile, we have a prince in waiting to take the crown - this can happen only in Indian democracy. :bash:

On what basis, Manmohan is a good PM? he is a good man personally. but he simply watched his cabinet to plunder the wealth of this country. He could not act independently. Congress used his honesty, so that at the backside they can do all illegal activities.
Why the congress not acting on Black money? because the money belongs to people who are either from congress or close aid of congress..
The problem is Manmohan succumbs to party politics. On the other hand, Cong has made sure that there is no alternative to him at this point of time. :(

Chidambaram is a PM material. Ok. However, we can't be a PM because he doesn't know Hindi and I am doubtful if the Northie folks will excuse him just like how they excused H.D.Gowda in the 90s. :ohno: Meanwhile, we have a prince in waiting to take the crown - this can happen only in Indian democracy. :bash:

I'm sure it won't be an issue in the future. Manmohan Singh always speaks in English, but it's become a sort of tradition to give Independence/Republic Day speech in Hindi. Nonetheless, it's not some sacred rule.

I would like to see the day when R-day speech can be given in the native language of the PM.

But yes, sadly Rahul Gandhi has already been declared the Crown Prince by many.

There is too much paranoia and hatred going around. As a coastal state TN would have been more developed than landlocked 'cowbelt' states irrespective of government.

South already has a high rate of urbanization while interior states need better urban development. That's why these new cities in interior states.
You should be happy because this will reduce the northie migrant workers in TN :lol:

Central Government think from what will benefit maximum number of people. That is obviously Del-Bom corridor. TN government thinks what will benefit TN. Nothing wrong with either but plz stop treating it like a zero-sum game.

Perfectly right. :cheers:

The need of the hour is to have inclusive and uniform growth across the nation. Many people do not understand how damaging the impact would be to everyone if regional economic disparities increase. The central government is doing the right thing by focusing on giving a "push" to regions which need it.

As some one said, if instead of tamils, it were biharis or punjabis penned up in animal enclosure, the sardar govt would have bombed lanka to dark ages.
Alas with a kannadiga foreign minister and a gandhi family more yearning for revenge, the tamils in lanka end up suffering. And ofcourse thatha more cares about which of his sons or daughter gets what portfolio and Jaya amma does not care about anything else apart from saddling herself with power.

:colbert: You need to tone down on this nonsense. You might be aware that I am supportive of regional identities and strongly discourage thinking which tries to suppress regional identities. But frankly, you are making the same mistake which you claim to be fighting against.

Before talking about "Punjab and sardar government", you ought to read the history of post-independent India and see the amount of suffering that Punjab has endured till very recently. I am pretty sure you know nothing about it. Also look into the problems faced in Assam, the backwardness and lack of economic development in Bihar and UP, and so on.

TN, KA and other Southern states have had their fair share of central institutions and investment. The only thing I actively campaign for is for the thinking of ordinary Indians to accept and understand the diversity and regional identities of India, and stop trying to think of India as a monolith with one kind of language and one kind of people. Barring that, I have no major gripe with the "central government", and neither should you, because it has no basis.

^^In coming decades ppl from southern states will have a greater role in shaping the character of the country. Earlier the balance of power was in the North but that has been shifting in the last decade.

More Autonomy to states like US would help many states to develop without facing the constraints. Also this partiality between states and centre will reduce and development can be put on fast track(assuming the SGs loot less and focus more on development). Sensitive regions/states shall continue with the current system.

Atleast relatively developed states like TN/Guj/AP/Kar/KL/MH (and quite few other states) shall be given more autonomous power in decision making on huge infrastructure & power projects, fund allocations, tax decisions etc. This will spur the growth of India. This allows CG to focus on under-developed states and slowly they can be set on track for inclusive growth.

MK was pushing CG for more autonomy for states few years before but slowly forgot it. Atleast these relatively developed states should join hands together and push for more powers to SG.

Depends on what specific area/laws need to be made state subjects. Some things are better managed by center, others are better managed by states.

At the moment the trend is to give financial and administrative power to the village panchayat level. Earlier this was not possible because of low literacy, lot of caste discrimination etc. but now it is becoming apparent that local bodies are capable of taking on more responsibilities.

But since this is an urban forum, I've been of the opinion for quite a while that city municipalities need to be given more autonomy. Mayors need to be given the same status that they have in most other countries. In India nobody knows who the Mayor is and everybody looks to the state CM for urban development. We need powerful Mayors.

Even a drainage project needs approval from the center, let alone an industry or a garden!

At the same time, all state govts should be forced to follow good governance and tracking of projects.

Even a drainage project needs approval from the center, let alone an industry or a garden!

At the same time, all state govts should be forced to follow good governance and tracking of projects.

I agree that there is too much power with the center...but think where we are coming from...when these laws were written we had some 15% literacy.

IMO, both center and state level should play an advisory role as well as investigative role but things like approval and implementation should be given to local government.

But then it depends from project to project - National Highways need to be executed at national level. Urban transport and infrastructure should be solely the responsibility of the municipality IMO.

Also there are too many stakeholders at every level - For example the Governor has no accountability but he can interfere with all sorts of projects. Lots of redundant administrative posts are there which make it very difficult to get things done. There should be more focus on simplicity both in terms of administrative structures and laws. People should know who is ultimately responsible for what.

At the moment the trend is to give financial and administrative power to the village panchayat level. Earlier this was not possible because of low literacy, lot of caste discrimination etc. but now it is becoming apparent that local bodies are capable of taking on more responsibilities.


Giving states more powers will pave the way to autonomy at panchayat level. Decentralisation of certain powers will prove good for states at both macro and micro level.

But since this is an urban forum, I've been of the opinion for quite a while that city municipalities need to be given more autonomy. Mayors need to be given the same status that they have in most other countries. In India nobody knows who the Mayor is and everybody looks to the state CM for urban development. We need powerful Mayors.

Regarding mayor, I don't think thats always the case in all Indian cities. I have personally met chennai mayor a few times at his house without any appointments or through politicians. And all those were for social causes and the outcomes were positive(this happened sometime in 2007-08). The thing is many people are not proactive and they dont take initiatives and approach concerned officials(may be because of their bad experience in past with other officials) Many Indians think that someone else would do for them.

Even a drainage project needs approval from the center, let alone an industry or a garden!

At the same time, all state govts should be forced to follow good governance and tracking of projects.

Nice point. Why don't govt make everything available online? Like if there is a flyover project, why don't they put the important milestones of the project and their expected deadline vs. current progress(like a gantt chart) online? Also these informations should be made real-time and will be much more powerful than filing RTI. Anyone should be able to access the status of the project including the cost of the project, amount spent so far(break-ups for individual milestones) etc.

I'm sure it won't be an issue in the future. Manmohan Singh always speaks in English, but it's become a sort of tradition to give Independence/Republic Day speech in Hindi. Nonetheless, it's not some sacred rule.

I would like to see the day when R-day speech can be given in the native language of the PM.

But yes, sadly Rahul Gandhi has already been declared the Crown Prince by many.
If Manmohan retires and if Rahul is not in a hurry, Chidambaram can become the PM and manage the R.Day and I.Day speeches in Hindi by transliterating in English just like Dewe Gowda did in the 90s. It won't be a big deal for just 2 days in a year given the fact that Chidambaram has been living and working out of Delhi and not out of TN for a very long time now.

By the way, Chidambaram has participated in the latest Hindi Day celebrations and urged the importance of learning Hindi. Plus, he is participating in big national and international forums and takes care of the Finance Dept as and when it is needed. Are these the signs of Cong preparing him for his future post?

If Manmohan retires and if Rahul is not in a hurry, Chidambaram can become the PM and manage the R.Day and I.Day speeches in Hindi by transliterating in English just like Dewe Gowda did in the 90s. It won't be a big deal for just 2 days in a year given the fact that Chidambaram has been living and working out of Delhi and not out of TN for a very long time now.

I'm sure some compromise of that sort will be worked out :lol:. But this is more of a protocol issue. if PM wants to use some other language for his speech I don't think anybody will stop him.


By the way, Chidambaram has participated in the latest Hindi Day celebrations and urged the importance of learning Hindi. Plus, he is participating in big national and international forums and takes care of the Finance Dept as and when it is needed. Are these the signs of Cong preparing him for his future post?

He's emerged as the most likely PM candidate in my opinion. I can't see a better leader than him in Congress at the moment apart from Manmohan Singh.

As far as Rahul is concerned, I'm just hoping that Congress High Command has better sense than to simply make him PM without achieving anything in life, but I suppose Sonia ji doesn't care for all that.

^^ Other than Chid, the only Cong non-Nehru-family guy who can become PM is Kapil Sibal. However, I will vote for him only after he does more credible things like bringing in the much needed educational reforms.

Reg. the Hindi speeches on those 2 days, I don't think its a big thing that the nation would care apart from one Burkha Dutt interview on that day if something goes awkward :lol:. I still remember how Dewe Gowda struggled to give those speeches during his tenure. However, I appreciated him as being the first non-Cong southern politician to take up the top post. His short-tenure, performance etc. come next; its his chance to become the PM coming from that background that is to be appreciated. :cheers:

Narashima Rao was from Andhra right? Maybe TN people think that Andhra is "north" but for Delhi, Andhra is definitely "south" :lol:

Under him only License Raj was diluted and economic reforms were started, so a very important PM for India's history!

^^ No no. I thought you will know and that is why I didn't mention PVNR. He was Cong guy and closely associated with Delhi politics much like Chid is today. Unlike Chid, he knew Hindi very well.

Dewe Gowda was neither a Cong person nor a Delhi-based politician. He represented KA politics for the most part. That is why his climbing up the post of PM was significant.

Nice point. Why don't govt make everything available online? Like if there is a flyover project, why don't they put the important milestones of the project and their expected deadline vs. current progress(like a gantt chart) online? Also these informations should be made real-time and will be much more powerful than filing RTI. Anyone should be able to access the status of the project including the cost of the project, amount spent so far(break-ups for individual milestones) etc.

In my opinion it is too much to expect our officials to make such information online. The deadlines are going to be always missed big time. We know the level of planning of the construction of infrastructure in the country. We know of a world-record 18KM BG doubling between Coimbatore North and Irugur that is going on for several decades now. We know of the Salem - Karur new BG line that is still in beginning stage for several years now.

With this being the track-record, how can we expect these people to put these data online?

Indian Railways is a lost case. Forget about it. It's sole responsibility is to provide jobs for the home state of Railway Minister :lol:

But you can find easily the progress for National Highways online for example.

மீனவர்கள் மீது துப்பாக்கியால் சுடுவதை நியாயப்படுத்த முடியாது: இந்தியா – சிறிலங்கா கூட்டறிக்கை

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கடல் எல்லையைத் தாண்டி மீன் பிடிக்கும் மீனவர்கள் மீது எந்தச் சூழலிலும் துப்பாக்கியால் சுடுவதை நியாயப்படுத்த முடியாது என்று இந்தியாவும் சிறிலங்காவும் இணைந்து வெளியிட்ட கூட்டறிக்கையில் கூறப்பட்டுள்ளது.

தமிழக மீனவர்கள் மீது சிறிலங்க கடற்படையினர் நடத்திய துப்பாக்கிச் சூட்டில் புதுக்கோட்டை, இராமேஸ்வர மீனவர்கள் இரண்டு பேர் கொல்லப்பட்டதையடுத்து தமிழ்நாட்டில் எழுந்த கடும் எதிர்ப்பைச் சமாளிக்க அயலுறவுச் செயலர் நிருபமா ராவை இலங்கைக்கு அனுப்பினார் பிரதமர் மன்மோகன் சிங்.

இன்று காலை இலங்கை வந்த நிருபமா ராவ், சிறிலங்க அயலுறவு அமைச்சர் ஜி.எல்.பெய்ரீஸ் உடன் மீனவர் மீது நடத்தப்படும் தாக்குதல் குறித்து பேசினார். இந்த சந்திப்பிற்குப் பிறகு இரு நாடுகளும் இணைந்து ஒரு கூட்டறிக்கை விடுத்துள்ளன.

அந்த கூட்டறிக்கையில், எந்த சூழலிலும் எல்லைத் தாண்டி மீன் பிடிக்கும் மீனவர்கள் மீது துப்பாக்கிச் சூடு நடத்துவது நியாயப்படுத்த முடியாது என்று கூறப்பட்டுள்ளது.

இந்தியாவிற்கும் இலங்கைக்கும் இடையிலான கடற்பரப்பில் சமீபத்தில் இரண்டு இந்திய மீனவர்கள் சுட்டுக்கொல்லப்பட்டது தொடர்பாக இந்திய அயலுறவுச் செயலர் நிருபமா ராவ் கவலைத் தெரிவித்ததாகவும், அப்படிப்பட்ட சம்பவங்கள் இதற்கு மேலும் தொடராமல் இருக்க, அச்சம்பவம் குறித்து தீவிரமாக புலனாய்வு செய்து, கடுமையான நடவடிக்கைகள் எடுக்கப்பட வேண்டும் என்று கேட்டுக்கொண்டதாகவும் கூறப்பட்டுள்ளது.

“எல்லைத் தாண்டி வந்து மீன் பிடிக்கும் பிரச்சனையில் - அது இந்திய மீனவர்கள் உட்பட எந்த மீனவர்கள் ஆனாலும் - மனிதாபிமான கண்ணோட்டத்தோடு அணுகுவது என்பதே சிறிலங்க அரசின் கொள்கையாக இருந்து வருகிறது என்று சிறிலங்க அதிகாரிகள் வலியுறுத்தினர்” என்று கூறியுள்ள அந்தக் கூட்டறிக்கை, “இந்த சம்பவத்தின் பின்னணி குறித்த விவரங்களை சிறிலங்க அரசு கண்டுபிடிக்கும். இந்த புலனாய்வில் இந்தியத் தரப்பும் தங்களுக்குக் கிடைக்கும் விவரங்களை சிறிலங்க அதிகாரிகளுக்கு அளிக்க வேண்டும். எந்தச் சூழலிலும் மீனவர்கள் மீது துப்பாக்கிச் சூடு நடத்துவது என்பதை நியாயப்படுத்த முடியாது என்று இரு தரப்பும் ஒப்புக்கொள்கின்றன” என்று கூறப்பட்டுள்ளது.

“இந்திய - சிறிலங்க அரசுகளுக்கு இடையே 2008ஆம் ஆண்டு அக்டோபர் 28ஆம் தேதி கையெழுத்தாகி வெளியிடப்பட்ட மீன் பிடித்தல் தொடர்பான கூட்டறிக்கையில் ஒப்புக்கொண்டபடி, எல்லைத் தாண்டி மீன் பிடிக்கும் மீனவர்கள் பிரச்சனையை சமாளிக்க உருவாக்கப்பட்ட ஏற்பாட்டால், மீனவர்களின் மீதான தாக்குதல் குறைந்துள்ளது” என்றும், “மீனவர்களின் பாதுகாப்பை மேலும் உறுதி செய்ய இரு நாடுகளும் மீண்டும் பேசுவது என்றும் ஒப்புக்கொள்ளப்பட்டுள்ளது” என்றும் கூறப்பட்டுள்ளது.

“மீன் பிடித்தல் தொடர்பாக இரு நாடுகளின் கூட்டுப் பணிக் குழு விரைவில் கூடி பேசுவது என்றும், அப்போது இரு நாடுகளும் மீன் பிடித்தல் தொடர்பான பல்வேறு பிரச்சனைகளுக்குத் தீர்வு காண்பது என்றும் கூட்டறிக்கையில் ஒப்புக்கொள்ளப்பட்டுள்ளது.

மீன் பிடித்தல், மேம்பாடு மற்றும் ஒத்துழைப்பு தொடர்பாக புதியதொரு புரிந்துணர்வு ஒப்பந்தம் ஏற்படுத்தவது குறித்தும் இந்த கூட்டுப் பணிக் குழுக் கூட்டத்தில் பேசுவது என்றும், இரு நாடுகளின் மீனவர் அமைப்புகளுக்கிடையே சந்திப்பை ஏற்படுத்தி, அதன் மூலம் இரு தரப்பிற்கும் பயனளிக்கும் வகையில் செயலாற்றுவது என்றும் ஒப்புக்கொள்ளப்பட்டுள்ளதாக அந்த கூட்டறிக்கை கூறி முடிக்கிறது.

மொத்தத்தில், இந்த கூட்டறிக்கையில் இந்த மாதத்தில் தமிழக மீனவர்கள் இருவர் கொல்லப்பட்டதை மட்டுமே மையப்படுத்தி இரு நாடுகளும் பேசியுள்ளன. இதுவரை 500க்கும் அதிகமான தமிழக மீனவர்கள் சிறிலங்க கடற்படையினரால் கொல்லப்பட்டுள்ளனர். அது குறித்து இந்த கூட்டறிக்கை ஏதும் பேசப்படவில்லை.

அதுமட்டுமின்றி, இரண்டு மீனவர்கள் சுட்டுக்கொல்லப்பட்டது தாங்கள் காரணமல்ல என்று சிறிலங்க அரசு கூறியதை ஏற்றுக்கொ்ண்டு இந்த கூட்டறிக்கை விடுக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது ஏமாற்றமளிக்கிறது.

Source (http://tamil.webdunia.com/newsworld/news/tnnews/1101/31/1110131042_1.htm)

இந்திய கடலோர காவற்படை எதற்காக?

Read this article here (http://tamil.webdunia.com/newsworld/news/currentaffairs/1101/25/1110125051_1.htm)

^^^^^^ Someone posted in last page indian navy should do this and that? See what they are doing?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/New-syllabus-aims-to-make-learning-Tamil-easier/articleshow/7399910.cms

In a state where Tamil is a political catchword, Tamil script reform, championed by scholars for years, is all set to take off in schools. The school education department has asked teachers handling schoolchildren to overlook errors children might make while learning Tamil to make language learning easier and develop Tamil as a vehicle for modern knowledge.

The final draft of the Tamil common syllabus for classes II to V and VII to X, released on the school education website on Monday, mentions in its curriculum objectives that, "Teachers should not attach too much importance to the mistakes being committed while the child is learning the language initially. The syllabus should be drafted in a way that is easy for the child to pick up the language so he or she can use it in newer ways or situations."

The government appointed a committee on script reform in 1996, but some Tamil teachers continued to insist on students writing in pure Tamil. Academics feel this has resulted in many students losing interest in pursuing the language.

Prince Gajendra Babu, general secretary, State Platform for Common School System, said, "Tamil scholars have for long been suggesting this reform as many students find Tamil too difficult to pursue. The positive side of this move is that the various dialects of Tamil may become acceptable to Tamil teachers when they no longer insist on Maraimalai Adigalar's Thani Tamil'. But this should not be taken as a licence to kill the language."

The school education department has also tried to make mathematics less intimidating. The new curriculum drawn up by the state says the maths studied in school should help students solve real-life problems.

With maths, teachers have been asked to encourage students to think rather than recall and give them the chance to formulate problems as well as solve them. The concept note suggests that students be given a free hand on what they what would like to learn: "Students of lower ability should be given the opportunity to experience a range of mathematics that is appropriate to their age, interests and capabilities. Equally, students with exceptional ability in mathematics must be extended and not simply expected to repeat different permutations of work they have clearly mastered."

The curriculum suggests that calculators and computers be used in the classroom. "Calculators, graphing calculators and computers are learning tools which students can use to discover and reinforce new ideas. They enable students to concentrate on mathematical ideas rather than on routine mechanical manipulation, which often intrudes on the real point of particular learning situations," it said.

Do we have human rights commission in U.S:bash:

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The cost that this person has paid for supporting tamil people in Lanka


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^^^^^^ Someone posted in last page indian navy should do this and that? See what they are doing?

What are they doing?

^^Yes.. Nellai, you should give a brief of what the news is about in English so that everyone could have a general idea.

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Do we have human rights commission in U.S:bash:


This is a common way of keeping track of accused individuals. Nothing for the Indian govt to be concerned about. If a similar law-breaker was caught in India, he would have been arrested and put in jail immediately. This guy is atleast free to go home and wait till the case is ironed out, while still being under monitor. This device informs the law enforcement officials if the accused moves out of a certain radius.

While commonly used for DUI (drunken driving) cases, this is also now frequently used for for such house-arrests.

We must keep in mind that these guys are actually living and working here illegally. US law enforcement treats citizens and non-citizens alike, celebrities and common man alike.... so, human rights is very existent. Heck, Lindsay Lohan has one on her ankle !

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UPDATE: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/US-justifies-radio-trackers-says-standard-procedure/articleshow/7400255.cms
It also seems that these illegal students were given a choice between sitting in jail or wearing this radio-tagged ankle monitor, and they chose the ankle monitor. If it is their choice, why is our Indian govt getting all worked up over this?

@ Fishermen issue:

Foreign Sec's visit to SL is to bolster the claim of the TN ruling party that they forced the CG to act. A huge leap from forming human chain, fasting between breakfast and lunch with a bed and air coolers on the beach, sending letters and telegrams to CG (where the ruling party is a part).

Though there were instances of smuggling across Palk Staraits earlier, there is nothing of that sort going on now. By SL Govt's own admission that SL is in full control of Colombo.

SL has understood India's weakness (rather CG's and Congress Chief's ) and is exploiting.
By playing China Card, it extracts aid from India.

I have travelled across SL and find the people - Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims very similar to Indians. The younger generation is fed up with the Tamil Sinhalese tiff and they want to co exist and live peacefully.

The problem lies only with the past & present rulers and Buddhist Clergy.

Srilankan Press has been gagged and the press is fed only what the Govt wants. The situation is somewhat similar to the Emergency period we had, way back in 70's. I hope that the younger generation of SL will rise to the occasion and throw out these old chauvanists and bandicoots.

WRT fishermen's killings, indian coast guard has a big role to play. There are solutions from modern technology like Buoys marking international maritime border with warning transmitters. Having a common frequency for emergency will also help for easier and faster communication among Coast Guard, SL Navy and fishermen.

As per Katch Theevu agreement, the fishermen should be allowed into SL waters upto and around the Katcha Theevu island. SL Govt does not allow this and kills the indian fishermen.

For centuries, the fishermen of Indian coasts and Srilanka have been resolving their problems by the local Fishermen panchayat in both countries. Even during the last decade, the tresspassers were arrested but not punished. They used to get deported through the external affairs ministries.

We are spending so much money for the trials on a Terrorist who held Mumbai to ransom and the Parliament attackers are still not punished.

India takes pride in being labelled as a SOFT NATION. But it ends up being a SOFT TARGET.

Shame!!! Shame!!! Puppy Shame!!!

This is a common way of keeping track of accused individuals. Nothing for the Indian govt to be concerned about. If a similar law-breaker was caught in India, he would have been arrested and put in jail immediately. This guy is atleast free to go home and wait till the case is ironed out, while still being under monitor. This device informs the law enforcement officials if the accused moves out of a certain radius.

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It also seems that these illegal students were given a choice between sitting in jail or wearing this radio-tagged ankle monitor, and they chose the ankle monitor. If it is their choice, why is our Indian govt getting all worked up over this?

Most of the students seem to have joined this university with full knowledge that what they were doing is illegal. Since H1B Visa is difficult to obtain, this is used as another route to get into USA. This incident may unearth more such sham universities.

We also observe that AP students are in majority in pursuing studies / jobs abroad. May be it is because of the social pressure. AP Govt should guide the students properly so that they do not join such univs and end up in jails.

I remember a similar scam in Dubai Job Market a decade or two back. Both TN and Kerala Govts intervened and regulated the manpower supply agencies.

Australia may also have similar issues soon.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Puducherry-leads-pack-in-elementary-education/articleshow/7407641.cms

For the second year in a row, Puducherry is the number one state in terms of Educational Development Index (EDI) at the elementary level (class I to VII/VIII), followed by Lakshadweep and Kerala.

Kerala has made remarkable progress in primary education — moving up from ninth position in 2008-09 to third in 2009-10. The Andaman & Nicobar Islands has moved from seventh to fourth slot, while Tamil Nadu continues to hold on to its fifth position.

Chandigarh, too, is a success story — sixth in 2009-10 from 10th in 2008-09. Punjab is at number seven, and Delhi — for the second year in succession —is at eighth position. EDI is prepared by National University for Educational Planning & Administration.

Hindi heartland states — Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan —and West Bengal are at the bottom of the heap. Despite massive investment in elementary education, Bihar continues to bring out the rear. "The last five years were spent in overcoming the historical shortcomings. In the next few years, Bihar will catch up with performing states," an official said.

EDI is prepared after taking into account four components — access, infrastructure, teachers and outcomes. In case of access, the two important factors were looked into — availability of schools per 1,000 child population and ratio of primary to upper primary schools. Access-wise, northeast states are on top. Arunachal Pradesh holds number one position at primary level, and Mizoram at upper primary level. Jammu & Kashmir is number two at primary level, followed by Gujarat at upper primary level.

In case of infrastructure, four factors were looked into — schools with student-classroom ratio of more than 40, schools with drinking water facility, common toilet and girls toilet.

Punjab has the best infrastructure at the primary level, followed by Puducherry and the Andaman & Nicobar Islands. At upper primary level, the Andaman & Nicobar Islands tops in terms of infrastructure. Punjab is at second position, followed by Sikkim.

^^ :applause:

TN being a big state, has done a commendable job to secure 5th place!

7 lorries collide on Krishnagiri - Hosur Highway

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/showxml.aspx?id=14126474&code=3913

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/222011/slm0202fe13pgkrne03.jpg

It is very funny to read!!!

A moving lorry first hit a stationary one at 6AM. When the police personnel were clearing the traffic, one more lorry joined the party and collided with the second one.

In the process, 4 more lorries collided on the rear!

How on earth this can happen!!! Senseless driving by these truck-drivers!!!

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/02/01/20110201a_002101006.jpg

* ICF, Perambur is manufacturing 45 train coaches for Sri Lanka based on the agreement signed last year.

* 12 coaches including normal passenger and AC coaches have been manufactured so far.

* Being transported to Chennai Port. From there it will be shipped to Columbo

Be Careful friends. Do Not travel in Footboard.

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Source: Dinamalar

What happened?

Be Careful friends. Do Not travel in Footboard.

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Source: Dinamalar

That victim was travelling in the bus foot board. His feet stuck inbetween the bus and road roller when both collide. That feet almost fully crushed.

@ Fishermen issue:



MK during his visit to Delhi requested PM, to increase Navy,Coast Guard patrol in Palk Straits. PM replied,

"Let me have word with Mr Antony",

Chief Executive should be decisive and be a man of action. A reply

' I have already ordered Defence Ministry to do that"

would have been more apt and welcome.

2G scam: Former minister A Raja, key aides arrested by CBI
Former Telecom Minister A Raja and his close associates R K Chandolia and Siddharth Behuria were arrested by the Central Bureau of Investigation today afternoon for their alleged role in the procedural irregularities in the allocation of 2G spectrum.

On Tuesday, the one-man panel set up to examine the procedures for awarding 2G licences between 2001 and 2009, had submitted its report to Union Telecom Minister Kapil Sibal. It is understood the panel of retired chief justice Shivaraj V Patil had named Raja and his former personal secretary Chandolia and telecom secretary Behuria for wrongdoing in his 150-page report.

“I have identified the officials on whose part there were deficiency or lapses,” Justice (retd) Shivaraj Patil had said after submitting the report, which has annexures running into 1,300 pages. However, he had refused to name the officials allegedly responsible for failing to implement the policy in a transparent and fair manner.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/2g-scam-former-minister-a-raja-key-aides-arrested-by-cbi/745123/

And from Idly Vadai Blog - அ.ராசா ஜாமினில் விடுதலை

அ.ராசா அரஸ்ட் என்று செய்தி. அவர் ஏன் அரஸ்ட் என்று கலைஞர் அறிக்கை சொல்லும். இந்த கைது சரி என்று நாம் நினைத்தாலும், தப்பு என்று பத்ரி எழுதுவார். எது எப்படியோ பாராளுமன்ற பட்ஜட் கூட்டம் அமைதியாக நடைபெறும். JPC என்று எதிர்கட்சிகளின் குரல் கொஞ்சம் கம்மியாக கேட்கும். கடைசியாக அப்பலோ மருத்துவமனைக்கு சில கஸ்டமர்கள் இதனால் வருவார்கள்.
தலைப்பு - அடுத்த தலைப்பு செய்தி இதுவாக தான் இருக்கும். அதனால்..

MK during his visit to Delhi requested PM, to increase Navy,Coast Guard patrol in Palk Straits. PM replied,

"Let me have word with Mr Antony",

Chief Executive should be decisive and be a man of action. A reply

' I have already ordered Defence Ministry to do that"

would have been more apt and welcome.

Words may be important for Diplomacy.

What we need now is A C T I O N.

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http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/322011/slm0302th20pgnphss01.jpg

I don't know when the attitude of people in our country is going to change. Why do they damage public properties for arresting a person after a thorough investigation, which in fact should have been done way back.

I don't know when the attitude of people in our country is going to change. Why do they damage public properties for arresting a person after a thorough investigation, which in fact should have been done way back.

They instigate their caste people and messed up this issue. But they let down the very same people in the MRF company issue

Finally karthik too..... makes his statement


http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/322011/03022011-cni-mn-07/31844187.JPG

State and central governments will be sent notices-for killing of 570 fishermens

அட்ராசக்க

News to watch for is-a fisherman has been shot by srilankan navy within India border, this is what indian navy does:bash:, which i mentioned in my previous post. Also since FIR has been filed in such a way, this has attracted attention. There may be many fishermen who might have been shot within indian border, but they might have gone unnoticed.

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Egypt president Hosni Mubarak's net worth....

Egypt's embattled President Hosni Mubarak's and his family's net worth is estimated to be between US dollars 40 and 70 billion, a media report said.

The wealth of the Egypt's first family was built largely from military contracts during his days as an air force officer; Mubarak eventually diversified his investments through his family when he became President in 1981, the 'ABC News' quoted experts as saying.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/egypt-president-hosni-mubaraks-net-worth-estimated-at-40-bn-to-70-bn-report/articleshow/7424263.cms

DB Realty hits record low on CBI probe report..

According to the report, Rs 214 crore was transferred by DB Realty to Kalaignar TV, which is a broadcaster majority-owned by family members of DMK party chief M Karunanidhi, by way of two other companies in the 2009-10 fiscal.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/stocks-in-news/db-realty-hits-record-low-on-cbi-probe-report/articleshow/7423680.cms

SpiceJet purchase by Kalanithi Maran under CBI lens..

The deal is estimated to range between Rs 750-800 crore as Maran is said to have agreed to pay Rs 47 per share to the airline promoters, which include Wilbur Ross and his investment companies as well as Bhupendra Kansagara.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/2g-spectrum-scam-spicejet-purchase-by-kalanithi-maran-under-cbi-lens/articleshow/7422359.cms

^^

Why Egypt's first family and Tamilnadu's first family was quoted in the same post? :lol:

தமிழர்களை வாழைமட்டை என்று திட்டியவர்கள் தானே!!

[B]DB Realty hits record low on CBI probe report..
SpiceJet purchase by Kalanithi Maran under CBI lens..
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/2g-spectrum-scam-spicejet-purchase-by-kalanithi-maran-under-cbi-lens/articleshow/7422359.cms
"Kuthunga Esaman Kuthunga!! Enthe Aalunga ellarum romba mosam! Nalla kuthunga!
i bet you, when the next govt comes, 1st corruption case will be on TN Insurance scheme, where ETA- start group is beneficiary..(again DMK group)

2G quiz... got this thro mail.

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that eta group has an empire in TN! chennai citi centre, crescent engg. college, star insurance, etc etc. all are theirs! the owners hail from ramanathapuram where theres a healthy muslim community.

lol...nice pic arul...i wonder if anyone would have any interest in the questions mentioned as it doesn't affect our lives directly.

^^

6000rupees worth prize was there.. atleast ADMK party member kids might have tried it. Nowadays many 2G scam sms is roaming around... as the Feb10th is nearing again 2G scam fever has started in TN.:nuts:

lol...nice pic arul...i wonder if anyone would have any interest in the questions mentioned as it doesn't affect our lives directly.
if it would have been honest, indian govt would have got more money. no need of tax burdening and so less cost of living.
did you feel the pinch of 1kg onion 90 rs? brinjal 40 rs?tomato for 60 rs?
In TN everywhere corrruption..

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/salem-milestone-turns-siva-lingam-223

Salem, Feb. 4: Highwayswarar, a new Siva idol, has been attracting a large number of devotees at Jalagandapuram in Salem district. The story how this idol came up is a bit amusing. The highways department put up milestones on the Jalagandapuram-Idapadi highway a year ago and painted them in yellow.
According to the locals, three months ago, T. Venkatachalam, a real estate manager in Jalagandapuram, who spotted a lemon close to the three feet milestone, thought that it was an Eswar idol and prayed there. He returned to the place the same evening and invited the public and told them that he had been successful in his business after he prayed to the Eswar on the highway. People who swarmed the place christened the Lord as 'Highwayswarar'.
Speaking to DC in praise of Highwayswarar, Venkatachalam said he visits the idol every day. "I garland Highwayswarar and pray to him daily. I received Rs 3 lakh profit when I prayed sincerely to him. I hope he would help people who pray with true devotion," he said.

...

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/pranksters-take-jaya-ride-twitter-926

Feb. 3: At a time when she should be busy strategizing on alliances for the coming Assembly elections in Tamil Nadu, the AIADMK leader J. Jayalalithaa has been driven to distraction by what pranksters are doing in her name in cybcerspace in the medium of Twitter.
Taking strong exception to the tweets appearing in her name, Ms Jayalalithaa on Thursday said someone was posting messages on the micro-blogging site Twitter using her name.
“It has been brought to my notice that ‘tweets’ are being sent out through the social networking and micro-blogging website Twitter.com in my name. I would like to clarify that I am not on Twitter and as such the tweeting purportedly done in my name is by an imposter or impersonator,” she said in a statement here.
“I am initiating criminal action through the police Cyber-Crime department. Meanwhile, I request my friends, followers, party cadres and political colleagues not to be misled by the tweets attributed to me,” she said.

...

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/tn-keeps-fingers-crossed-outcome-election-655

Feb. 2: If the DMK and its allies believe that the embarrassment of Raja’s arrest will thin out before the Assembly election expected in May and not impact the voter, the Opposition parties are determined to keep the fire on the DMK leadership and hope it would deliver big at poll time.
Setting the tone for the opposition broadside, AIADMK chief Ms Jayalalithaa dubbed the Raja arrest as a ruse to hoodwink the public and the Supreme Court, and asked why no action was taken against the DMK’s first family despite it being the ‘prime beneficiary’ in the spectrum deal. The common man will be hearing more of this in the coming days.
“Our stand has been vindicated by this arrest but that’s not enough. The CBI should bring out the entire truth as we all can see that one individual called Raja could not have perpetrated a crime of this proportion. We will talk to the voters about this,” state BJP president Pon Radhakrishnan told DC.
Noted journalist and political analyst Cho Ramaswamy feels that the spectrum developments are sure to hurt the DMK-led alliance in the state election and “just this arrest of Raja will not help.”
Already, public opinion has been strong that chief minister M. Karunanidhi did his best to shield Raja — even saying that he’s being targeted because he is a Dalit — and was forced to step aside as the CBI spoor got stronger. “It is now up to the Congress to break the (DMK) alliance if it wants to prove to the people that it benefited in no way from the spectrum deal,” said Cho.
“As for the DMK, they may now say the party is suspending Raja but that’s not going to help much because the DMK name is already in the mud. Karunanidhi will say let us wait for the court verdict and his party will not be able to criticize Raja, whereas the opposition parties will do it, in louder terms now,” Cho said.

...

Cross-posting from India seaports and shipping thread. Courtesy: Bombay2Calcutta

http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/PUBLICATIONS/HT/HD/2011/02/04/Article//010/04_02_2011_010_017.jpg

This man challenged before few years that they will capture power in 2011, now backed up to 2016


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where r those messages and conversations between me and satishanu.

Keral government has mentioned in it's governor report that new dam will be build across mullai periyar, which is a contempt of court order

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/02/06/20110206a_009107009.jpg

TN to wipe out revenue dificit by 2011-12 fiscal end

Backed by a positive growth, Tamil Nadurevenue deficit would be wiped out completely by the end offinancial year 2011-12, Financial Secretary K Shanmugam saidtoday.

The state would have revenue surplus of Rs 439 crore by theyear end, he told reporters here.


"After the global financial crisis, the revenue growth ofthe state is good and payment of the Sixth Pay Commissionarrears has also given the state good financial position..,"he said.

http://news.oneindia.in/2011/02/06/tnto-wipe-out-revenue-dificit-by-2011-12-fiscalend-aid0126.html


Is it true or just a cooked up data? Last time when DMK left and ADMK came in, CM said "Gajana Gaali". I think we will experience the deja vu after the elections.

TN to wipe out revenue dificit by 2011-12 fiscal end

Is it true or just a cooked up data? Last time when DMK left and ADMK came in, CM said "Gajana Gaali". I think we will experience the deja vu after the elections.
I am not sure whether this project talks about loans for TN Govt and interest paid to that... since it is a interim budget, they did not include the expense of interest paid during these 2 months(April 2011 to June 2011).
Could some one clarify whether this project is for those 3 months only?

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Since ,Debt incurred during the last five years has been fully used for "Capital Expenditure", one should feel happy over the prudence of the Finance Ministry.

Lots of money could have been saved on the salary front if they have not rushed with the 6 th Pay commission implementation and limited ,expansion of the Bureacracy. DMK Govt's hands are wide open when comes to adding employees. Currently they cost 49.5 percent of the total income.(But, all those who got employment will be thanking the Govt. 3,00,000 * 4 = 12,00,000 residents)

If we could save Rs 10,000 crores from that account and invest Rs 300 crores per District every year in creating useful assets and SMEs,the State will start riding a stallion along the growth path.

Can even think of using MLA,MP constituency funds to set up Industrial units (SMEs -Sidco Industrial Estates) in every Assembly limit to spread the Indusrial Culture all over and to earn 10 percent return on Capital Expenditure.

.....what thatha did? It took 4.5long years to complete a simple office building.

He opens only half baked buildings every where, including the CBE IT park. And this may be the 5 or 6th reply.

Arul, I agree Thatha shares blame too for the incessant delays and the hopeless state of IT corridor.
PS: I dislike both the parties(heck lets say all *DK*), but atleast Stalin gives atleast 10% of his time on new projects and made all the right noises about industrial growth in Korea and China.


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Times Of India Coimbatore
This is a welcome change. Its good to have competition for Hindu which typically channels DMK family and plays safe leftist journalism. ToI started pointing to infrastructural issues in Chennai and mobilizes the city to address those issues in bringing the administration and people under one roof. Ofcourse they get revenues being Tabloid of India. Its good to have competition, else the Hindu would sell stale newspapers like the Ambassador car.

Times of India, for all its faults will be a very welcome addition to Coimbatore. There will be a lot more more coverage of infra issues (with questionable facts), shrill headlines and tabloidy journalism but they also project / hype a lot of the city for even minor things. Kovai will start finding mention in many surveys over a period of time and any publicity will be welcome. It will be a lot like Dinamalar with a much bigger reach.

Times of India, for all its faults will be a very welcome addition to Coimbatore. There will be a lot more more coverage of infra issues (with questionable facts), shrill headlines and tabloidy journalism but they also project / hype a lot of the city for even minor things. Kovai will start finding mention in many surveys over a period of time and any publicity will be welcome. It will be a lot like Dinamalar with a much bigger reach.
Yes, and CBE news will get coverage in their other editions.

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/02/08/20110208a_005101007.jpg

* TN Govt plans to install Thiruvalluvar statue near neighbouring state borders along with landscaping each at a cost of Rs.10 Lakhs

Its a very good decision by TN Govt

Subject: பொதுமக்களை ஏமாற்றி பணத்தை கொள்ளையடிக்கும் மத்திய மாநில அரசுகள்! சிறப்பு ஆய்வு கட்டுரை!....









பெட்ரோல் விலை: பொதுமக்களை ஏமாற்றி பணத்தை கொள்ளையடிக்கும் மத்திய மாநில அரசுகள்! சிறப்பு ஆய்வு கட்டுரை!
செய்தி வெளியிடப்பட்ட நாள் Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 14:40
மோட்டார் வாகனம் பயன்படுத்வோர் மட்டுமல்லாது இன்றைக்கு நாட்டில் உள்ள அடித்தட்டு மக்கள் முதல் மேல் தட்டு மக்கள் வரை அனைவரும் பணத்தை பரிகொடுத்தவர்கள் போன்று புலம்புவது ”அடப்பாவிங்களா கேக்குரதுக்கு ஆள் இல்லன்னு பெட்ரொல் விலைய இஷ்டம் போல அளவே இல்லாம இப்படி கூட்டிக்கிட்கிட்டே போரானுங்களே” என்று தான்.
இதில் நாமும் விதிவிலக்கல்ல..
ஏனெனில் கடந்த ஓராண்டில் மட்டும் 9 முறை பெட்ரோல் விலை உயர்த்தப்பட்டுள்ளது. கடந்த சனிக்கிழமை பெட்ரோல் விலை 2.55 ரூபாய் உயர்த்தப்பட்டு தற்போது 63.45 ரூபாய்க்கு தமிழகத்தில் பெட்ரோல் விற்கப்படுகின்றது.
பிரதமர் உட்பட உயர் மட்ட அளவில் கூட்டம் போடும் அளவிற்கு நாட்டில் விலைவாசி உயர்ந்துள்ள இந்த நிலையில், நமது இந்திய அரசு இதை (எண்னை நிறுவனங்கள் அரசின் ஒப்புதலுடன் தான் விலையை ஏற்றுகின்றது) செய்திருப்பது, ”நாட்டு மக்கள் செத்தாலும் பரவாயில்லை தங்களுக்கு கோடிகோடியாய் பணம் தரும் பெரும் தொழிலதிபர்கள் நல்லா இருக்கனும் உலகின் பணக்கார பட்டியலில் அவர்கள் பெயர் முன்னேர வேண்டும்” என்ற அரசியல் வாதிகளின் நயவஞ்சகத்தனத்தை வெட்ட வெளிச்சமாக்கியுள்ளது.
நாம் இதை ஆதாரத்தோடே கூறுகின்றோம்!
விலையை உயர்த்து சொல்லப்படும் காரணங்கள்
1.ஆயில் நிறுவனங்களுக்கு நஷ்டம்
அடிக்கடி விலையை உயர்த்துவதற்கு அரசு சொல்லும் முதல் காரணம் ஆயில் நிறுவனங்களுக்கு ஒருநாளைக்கு ”இத்தன கோடி நஷ்டம்” என்பது தான்.
இது கடைந்தெடுத்த பொய்யாகும்! இது பச்சைப் பொய்யாகும்!! இது மகாப் பொய்யாகும்!!
நாம் இதை இவ்வளவு அழுத்தமாக சொல்லக் காரணம், அரசு எந்த நிறுவனங்களை நஷ்டம் ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது என்று கூறுகின்றதோ அந்த எண்னை நிறுவனங்களின் (IOC -Indian Oil Corparation , HPCL -Hindustan Petroleum Corporation , BPCL-Bharat Petroleum Corporation) 2010-2011 ன் இரண்டாம் காலாண்டின் நிதிநிலை அறிக்கையை நாம் படித்தது தான்.
நிதி நிலை அறிக்கை (நான்கு மாதத்தில் மட்டும் கிடைத்த லாபம்)
IOC யின் 2010-2011 ன் இரண்டாம் காலாண்டின் நிகர லாபம் – (அரசுக்கு வரி கட்டியது போக) 5294 கோடி.
அரசுக்கு செலுத்தியுள்ள வரி 832.27 கோடி
5294 + 832.27 = 6126.27 கோடி லாபம்
HPCL யின் 2010-2011 ன் இரண்டாம் காலாண்டின் நிகர லாபம் – (அரசுக்கு வரி கட்டியது போக) 2142.22 கோடி.
அரசுக்கு செலுத்தியுள்ள வரி 90.90 கோடி
2142.22 + 90.90 = 2233.12 கோடி லாபம்
BPCL யின் 2010-2011 ன் இரண்டாம் காலாண்டின் நிகர லாபம் – (அரசுக்கு வரி கட்டியது போக) 2142.22 கோடி.
அரசுக்கு செலுத்தியுள்ள வரி 198.00 கோடி
2142.22 + 198.00 = 2340.22 கோடி லாபம்
மேற்குறிப்பிட்ட மூன்று எண்னை நிறுவனங்கள் மூலம் மட்டும் நான்கு மாதத்தில் கிட்டதட்ட 10699.61 கோடி ரூபாய் லாபம் சம்பாதித்து விட்டு, எண்ணை ‘நிறுவனங்களின் நஷ்டத்தை ஈடுகட்டவே விலையை உயர்த்தி உள்ளோம்’ என்று அப்பட்டமாக பொய் கூறி பொதுமக்களை மத்திய அரசு ஏமாற்றுகின்றது.
நஷ்டம் என்று அரசு கூறுவது ‘வர வேண்டிய லாபத்தை என்று’ சில பொருளாதார வல்லுணர்கள் விளக்கம் கொடுக்கின்றனர்.
அதாவது உதாரணத்திற்கு: 2000 கோடி லாபம் வர வேண்டும் ஆனால் 1500 கோடி தான் லாபம் வந்துள்ளது எனவே 500 கோடி இலாபம் குறைந்துள்ளது என்று ஒருவர் கூறுவது போன்று.
லாபத்தில் குறைவு ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது என்பதற்கும் ”விலையை கூட்டும் அளவிற்கு இத்தன கோடி நஷ்டம் ” என்பதற்கும் மலைக்கும் மடுவிற்கும் உள்ள வித்தியாசம் இருக்கின்றது.
பொதுமக்கள் சோத்துக்கே வழியில்லாமல் இருக்கும் போது கோடிக்கணக்கில் எண்னை நிறுவனம் மூலம் லாபம் சம்பாத்தித்து விட்டு ‘அதுவும் போதவில்லை இன்னும் விலையை ஏற்று’ என்று மத்திய அரசு கூறுவது, அரசு எந்த அளவிற்கு பொதுமக்களின் பணத்தை கொள்கை அடிக்க வழிகளை தேடுகின்றது என்பதை தெளிவுபடுத்துகின்றது.
நான்கு மாதத்தில் மூன்று எண்னை நிறுவனங்கள் மூலம் 10 ஆயிரம் கோடிக்கும் மேல் லாபம் ஈட்டிவிட்டு, பொதுமக்களிடம் கோடிக்கணக்கில் நஷ்டக் கணக்கு காட்டி, பெட்ரோல் விலையை கூட்டவது நியாயமான அரசு செய்யும் வேலையா?
எனவே அரசுக்கு எண்னை நிறுவனங்கள் மூலம் இதுவரையிலும் எந்த நஷ்டமும் இல்லை மாறாக கொடிக்கணக்கில் லாபம் தான், மத்திய அரசு அப்பட்டமாக பொய் கூறுகின்றது என்பதை பொதுமக்கள் நன்கு புரிந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும்.
நஷ்ட கணக்கு நாடகத்தை பொதுமக்கள் தற்போது உணர்ந்திருப்பார்கள்.
2. குரூட் ஆயில் விலை உயர்ந்து விட்டது
அடுத்து சொல்லும் காரணம் குரூட் ஆயில் விலை உயர்ந்து விட்டது. இதுவும் பொய்யாகும்.
தற்போது குரூட் ஆயில் பீப்பாய் ஒன்று 92 டாலருக்கு விற்கப்படுகின்றது. தற்போது பெட்ரொலின் விலை லிட்டர் 63.54 ரூபாய்.
ஆனால் இதே பீப்பாய் 2008 ஆம் ஆண்டில் கிட்டதட்ட 135 டாலருக்கும் மேல் விற்கப்பட்டது. அப்போது விலை என்ன தெரியுமா ? பெட்ரொல் லிட்டர் ரூபாய் 54 மட்டும் தான்.
2008 ஐ ஒப்பிடும் போது தற்போது பீப்பாய் விலை 34 சதவிகிதம் குறைந்துள்ளது. எனவே பெட்ரோல் விலையையும் 34 சதவிகிதம் குறைக்க வேண்டும். அது தான் நியாயம் அதாவது பெட்ரோல் விலையை லிட்டருக்கு 35 ரூ ஆக ஆக்க வேண்டும். ஆனால் மத்திய அரசு குறைப்பதற்கு பதிலாக தற்போது 55 சதவிகிதம் விலைய உயர்த்தி 63 ரூபாய்க்கு விற்கின்றது.
இது மிகப்பெரும் அநியாயமாகும்.
2008 ல் பீப்பாய் ஒன்று 135 டாலருக்கும் மேல் சர்வதேச சந்தையில் விற்கும் போதே பெட்ரோலை லிட்டர் 54 ரூபாய் தான். ஆனால் தற்போது பீப்பாய் ஒன்று 92 டாலர் தான் விற்கின்றது எனவே பீப்பாய் விலையை கவனத்தில் கொண்டு தற்போது மத்திய அரசு விலைய குறைக்க வேண்டுமே தவிர கூட்டக் கூடாது.
எனவே பெட்ரோல் விலை உயர்வுக்கு குரூட் ஆயிலின் விலை உயர்வு தான் காரணம் என்று கூறுவது பொய் என்பதை பொதுமக்கள் உணர்ந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும்.
விலை உயர்ந்துள்ளதற்கு உண்மையான காரணம்
உண்மையில் தற்போது உள்ள சந்தை நிலவரப்படி கணக்கு பார்த்தால் பெட்ரோல் விலை லிட்டருக்கு 25 ரூபாய் கூட வராது.
ஆம், நாம் பெட்ரோலுக்கு கொடுக்கும் பணத்தில் பாதிக்கு மேல் உள்ள தொகை மத்திய மாநில அரசு விதித்துள்ள வரிகள் தான்.
இதோ தற்போதைய பெட்ரோலுக்கான வரி நிலவரம் 2011

வரி என்ற பெயரில் கோடி கோடியாய் கொள்ளையடிக்கும் மத்திய மாநில அரசுகள்
22 ரூபாய்க்கு விற்க வேண்டிய பெட்ரோலை 41 ரூபாய் கூடுதலாக வரிமேல் வரி விதித்து 63.45 க்கு அநியாயமாக விற்கும் மத்திய மாநில அரசுகள் இன்னும் என்ன காரணம் சொல்லி விலையை உயர்த்தலாம் என்று யோசித்துக் கொண்டிருக்கின்றது. பொய்கணக்கு கூறி பொதுமக்களிடம் நாடகமாடிக்கோண்டிருக்கின்றது.
ஒரு வருடத்திற்கு நாம் அரசிற்கு செலுத்தும் பெட்ரோல் வரி .. ஒரு சிறிய கணக்கு..
மோட்டார் வாகனத்தில் அலுவலகத்திற்கு செல்லும் ஒருவர் சராசரியாக மாதம் ஒன்றுக்கு 15 லிட்டர் பயன்படுத்துகின்றார் என்று வைத்துக் கொள்வோம்.
மாதம் பெட்ரோலுக்காக இவருக்கு ஆகும் செலவு ரூபாய் 951.75.
இதில் 650.7 ரூபாயை இவர் அரசுக்கு வரியாக மட்டுமே செலுத்துகின்றார். பெட்ரோலுக்கான விலை அல்ல!
இதில் பெட்ரோலுக்கான விலை வெறும் 330 ரூபாய் மட்டும் தான்!
மாதம் 650.7 எனில் வருடத்திற்கு 7808.4 ரூபாயை இவர் பெட்ரொல் வாங்குவதன் மூலம் அரசிற்கு வரியாக மட்டுமே செலுத்துகின்றார்.
நானும் நீங்களும் பெட்ரோலுக்காக அரசிற்கு வருடா வருடம் கிட்டதட்ட 8 ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் வரியாக மட்டுமே கொடுக்கின்றோம். (மாதம் 15 லிட்டர் எனில்) இது தெரியுமா உங்களுக்கு ?.
இதில் 4 ஆயிரம் தமிழக அரசிற்கு, 4 ஆயிரம் மத்திய அரசிற்கு! என்ன கொடுமை இது!!!
100 கோடி மக்கள் தொகையில் 10 சதவிகிதம் பேர் மோட்டார் வாகனம் பயன்படுத்தவதாக வைத்துக் கொண்டாலும் அரசுக்கு ஆண்டுதோறும் ரூபாய் 780840000000 (எத்தன ஆயிரம் கோடின்னு நீங்களே கணக்கு பன்னிக்கோங்க) பெட்ரோல் மூலம் வரி மட்டுமே வருகின்றது.
ஒரு பக்கம் எண்ணை நிறுவனங்கள் மூலம் வரும் லாபம், மறு பக்கம் அதை விட இரண்டு மடங்கு வரி என்ற பெயரில் பொதுமக்களிடமிருந்து வரும் லாபம்.
இவையெல்லாம் போதாது என்று மேலும் மேலும் பச்சை பொய் கூறி பெட்ரோல் விலைலை உயர்த்துகின்றது மத்திய அரசு.
எனவே பெட்ரோல் விலையின் உயர்வுக்கு காரணம் மத்திய மாநில அரசுகள் நிர்ணயித்துள்ள வரிகள் தானே தவிர பீப்பாய் விலையோ எண்னை நிறுவனிங்களின் நஷ்டமோ (அப்பட்டமான பொய்) கிடையாது என்பதை பொதுமக்கள் புரிந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும்.
கூடுதலாக வரி விதிக்க காரணம்
1. தனியார் நிறுவனங்கள்
சமீபகாலமாக அரசு அதிகமாக வரி விதிப்பதற்கும் விலைய உயர்த்துவதற்கும் முக்கிய காரணம் தற்போது முலைத்துள்ள தனியார் எண்னை நிறுவனங்கள் தான்.
கனிமவளங்கள் நிறந்த நாட்டுடமைகளை அரசியல்வாதிகளுக்கு பணம் கொடுத்து குறைந்த விலைக்கு வாங்கி தனியார் எண்னை நிறுவனங்கள் அதிலிருந்து வரும் எரிபொருளை அரசிற்கே கூடுதல் விலைக்கு விற்கின்றது மேலும் வெளிநாட்டில் இருந்து பெட்ரோலை வாங்கி உள்ள நாட்டில் அதிக விலைக்கு விற்கின்றது.
ஆம்! பெட்ரோலுக்காக நாம் கொடுக்கும் பணத்தில் ரிலைன்சுக்கும் பங்கு செல்கின்றது. இது போன்ற தனியார் எண்னை நிறுவனங்களின் வற்புறுத்தலின் பேரில் தான் அரசு, பெட்ரோல் விலையை நீங்களே (எண்னை நிறுவனங்களே) நிர்ணயித்துக் கொள்ளுங்கள் என சட்டம் கொண்டு வந்தது.
இதனால் தான் தற்போது பெட்ரொல் விலை அடிக்கடி உயர்கின்றது.
Reliance Industries என்று சொல்லப்படும் ரிலைன்சின் எண்னை நிறுவனத்தின் 2010-2011 ன் இரண்டாம் காலாண்டின் லாபம் (நான்கு மாதத்தில்) எவ்வளவு தெரியுமா? 4923 கோடியாகும்.
இந்த லாபம் அரசின் நிறுவனங்களான பாரத் பெட்ரோலியம், ஹிந்துஸ்தான் ஆகியவற்றின் லாபத்தை விட இரண்டு மடங்கு கூடுதலானதாகும்.
தனியார் நிறுவனங்கள் அரசிடமிருந்து கனிமவலளங்கள் நிறைந்த இடத்தை குறைந்த விலைக்கு வாங்கி அதில் உள்ள எரிபொருளை சுத்திகரிப்பு செய்து மீண்டும் அரசிற்கே விற்கின்றன மேலும் வெளிநாட்டில் இருந்து வாங்கியும் அரசிற்கு விற்கின்றது.
இதை அரசே செய்தால் பெட்ரோல் விலையை உயர்த்த வேண்டிய அவசியமும் இல்லை, அரசிற்கு கூடுதல் லாபம் வரும் என்பதால் 65 சதவிகிதம் அளவிற்கு வரி விதிக்கவும் தேவையில்லை.
முகேஷ் அம்பானி போன்ற தனியார் நிறுவன தொழிலதிபர்கள் உலக பணக்கார வரிசையில் நான்காவது இடம் பிடிக்க நமது அரசியல் வாதிகள் பாடுபடுவதோடு பொதுமக்களையும் அதற்கு பணயமாக்குகின்றனர்.
2. வட்டி
65 சதவிகிதம் அளிவிற்கு வரி விதிப்பதற்கு மற்றுமொரு முக்கிய காணரம் உலக வங்கியில் இந்திய அரசு வாங்கியுள்ள கடன் தான்.
இத்தனை சதவிகிதம் வரி விதித்தால் தான் அரசின் கடன் மற்றும் வட்டியை கட்ட முடியும் என்ற கணக்கு உள்ளது.
அதன் அடிப்படையில் தான் வாங்கிய கடன் மற்றும் அதற்குரிய வட்டியை அடைப்பதற்கு ஏற்றாற்போன்று மத்திய மாநில அரசு வரிகளை விதிக்கின்றது.
பெட்ரோல் அன்றாடம் அனைவரும் பயன்படுத்தப்படும் பொருளாக இருப்பதால் அதற்கு கூடுதல் வரிகளை விதித்துள்ளது.
பெட்ரோல் விலை உயர்வை தவிர்க்க அரசு, வட்டி மற்றும் தனியார் கலாச்சாரத்தை கைவிட வேண்டுமே தவிர பொதுமக்களை சுரண்டும் வண்ணம் வரிக்கு மேல் வரி விதிக்கக் கூடாது.
அமெரிக்காக போன்ற வளர்ந்த நாட்டில் வெறும் 18 சதவிகித வரி தான் பெட்ரோலுக்கு விதிக்கப்படுகின்றது.
18% எங்கே 65% எங்கே ?
பெட்ரோல் விலை உயர்வுக்கு தமிழக அரசும் காரணம்
மற்ற மாநிலங்களை விட அதிகமாக தமிழக அரசு 30 சதகவிதம் பெட்ரோலுக்கு வரி விதிக்கின்றது. ஒரு ரூபாய் க்கு அரிசி போடுகின்றேன் என்று கூறி தினமும் அன்றாடம் வேலைக்கு செல்லும் பொதுமக்களிடம் கோடி கோடியாய் பணத்தை பெட்ரோல் மூலம் சுருட்டுகின்றது இந்த தமிழக அரசு.
இந்த வரியை குறைக்குமாறு கலைஞரிடம் கேட்டதற்கு இதை குறைக்க முடியாது என்று சமீபத்தில் கூறியுள்ளார்.
இப்படி கோடிகோடியாய் பொதுமக்களிடமிருந்து வரி என்ற பெயரில் கொள்ளையடித்த பணத்தை தான் ஓட்டு வாங்குவதற்காக கூத்தாடிகளுக்கு ‘சொந்த இடம், சொந்த வீடு, படத்திற்கு வரி விலக்கு’ பொன்ற சலுகைகள் வழங்க பயன்படுத்துகின்றார் இந்த கருணாநீதி.
இதுவல்லாமல் பொதுமக்களுக்கு ‘அந்த திட்டம் இந்த திட்டம்’ என்று அவ்வப்போது அறிவிப்புகளை வெளியிடுகின்றார்.
மேலோட்டமாக சலுகைகளை அறிவித்து விட்டு பொதுமக்களுக்கு தெரியாமல் பெட்ரோல் மூலம் பணத்தை வரி என்ற பெயரில் கொள்ளை அடிக்கின்றது இந்த தமிழக அரசு.
பெட்ரோல் விலை உயர்வுக்கும் கலைஞருக்கும் சம்பந்தமே இல்லாததை போன்ற மாயத் தோன்றம் ஏற்படுத்தப்படுகின்றது.
மற்ற மாநிலங்களை ஒப்பிட்டு பார்க்கும் போது தமிழகத்தில் கூடுதலாகவே பெட்ரோலுக்கு வரி விதிக்கப்படுகின்றது.
மாநிலம் வாரியான பெட்ரோல் வரி பட்டியல்
State Petrol tax
Andhra Pradesh 33
Maharastra 25
Gujarat- 23
Madhya Pradesh- 28.7
Chattisgarh- 22
Goa- 22
Uttar Pradesh 26.5
Uttarakhand- 25
Delhi- 20
Himachal Pradesh-25
Jammu , Kashmir-20
Punjab- 27.5
Rajasthan- 28
Haryana4 20
Chandigarh- 20
Tamilnadu- 30
Pondicherry- 12.5
Kerala- 29
Karnataka 25
Orissa-18
Assam-25
Bihar21
Jharakhand-20
West Bengal-25
Manipur-20
Meghalaya-20
Tripura-15
Mizoram-18
Arunachal Pradesh-20
nagaland-20



article got from net.

Anirudh

another bit from net...

Time for story telling : Vikram and Vetal
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Once there lived an old and pious man, renowned for his honesty. One day his neighbor, a rich merchant comes to him with a request. The merchant was leaving on a voyage and wants the old man to safeguard his wealth, until his return. The old man agrees and with God as witness promises to protect and safeguard the merchant’s wealth.
The old man then entrusts the safe keep of the merchant’s wealth to his son, from whom he takes an oath of propriety and honesty. Slowly the son starts dipping into the merchants wealth, people notice this and warn the old man of the son’s misdeeds. The old man calls his son asks him to explain, he also reminds him of his oath on following the right path. The son rubbishes the accusations as rumors and the idle gossip of jealous people, who could bear to see his prosperity. The old man accepts the son’s explanation and things go on as before.


The merchant returns and demands his wealth. The old man calls his son, who hands over a quarter of the merchant’s wealth saying that is all there was. The merchant realizing that he has been cheated approaches the King. The King listens to the merchant’s complaint and summons the old man. The old man comes to the court with his son and handing him over to the King says “your majesty, the merchant is right. My son has confessed to the crime. Please punish him.”



The king has the son flogged and imprisoned. He then praises the old mans honesty and dismisses the case. But the merchant demands punishment for the old man saying, “I have still not received justice. I had entrusted my wealth to the old man which he swore by God to safeguard. The old man’s integrity is intact, but what of me, I have been robbed of my life’s savings, and made a pauper. It was the old man’s decision to entrust my wealth the son for safe keeping. As far as I am concerned the old man is the culprit, and should be punished.



The king is astounded by this demand. The old man, was neither a party to the theft nor did he benefit from it. In fact, he had sent his son to jail. Yet, the merchant was asking for the old man’s punishment.


The Betal asks Vikramaditya, “What should be the Kings decision.”



Vikramaditya’s replies, “Though the old man is innocent of the actual theft, he is guilty of dereliction of duty. The son’s crime was a straight forward one, the old man’s was a graver crime. He did nothing to protect the merchant’s wealth. Far from being vigilant he failed to take action even when he was warned of his son’s misdeeds. Because of his laxity the merchant is condemned to a life of penury. He should be punished.”


India 2010, Dr. Manmohan Singh, esteemed economist, former Governor of RBI, Deputy Chairman of Planning Commission, former Finance Minister, a man whose personal ethics and integrity are unblemished, takes oath to protect and safeguard the Nation and its assets. He appoints Raja, as his Cabinet Minister for IT & Telecom.


Unlike the story, this heist of a precious national asset is carried out in full view of Dr. Manmohan Singh and his cabinet colleagues. Newspapers across the country cry out at this outrage in front page headlines.


The Indian Constitution grants the Prime Minister absolute power in running the country. He is the head of the Government and the Union Cabinet functions at his pleasure. As per the Transaction of Business Rules the Prime Minister has the unrestricted right to demand and get any file, any record from any Ministry. Dr. Man Mohan Singh could have at any time stopped this heist of a National asset, yet he chose to remain silent. The Minister’s failure to exercise his constitutional rights has caused irreparable loss to the Nation.


Dr. Singh did not profit personally from Raja’s shenigans, but his failure to act, to honor the oath of office, to protect and safeguard the nation and its wealth is unforgivable. Like the old man, he has sacked Raja from his ministerial berth, but does his culpability end there.

The people of India had entrusted their faith and the future of the Nation in Dr. Manmohan Singh, believing him to be a man of integrity and honesty, and not to Raja. Does dismissing Raja absolve Dr. Singh or like the old man is he guilty of dereliction of duty and failure to safeguard the Nation and its citizens. Does he deserve punishment?

It is for the Indian citizen to decide.


anirudh





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Everything is free:)

http://idlyvadai.blogspot.com/2011/02/blog-post_08.html

If we could save Rs 10,000 crores from that account and invest Rs 300 crores per District every year in creating useful assets and SMEs,the State will start riding a stallion along the growth path.

Can even think of using MLA,MP constituency funds to set up Industrial units (SMEs -Sidco Industrial Estates) in every Assembly limit to spread the Indusrial Culture all over and to earn 10 percent return on Capital Expenditure.

Now you are talking :) Naice imbrovment :colgate:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article1165490.ece

The Geological Survey of India (GSI) recently unearthed lignite deposits in Ramanathapuram district, said A. Sundaramoorthy, director general, GSI.

Inaugurating the refurbished economic geology gallery at Government Museum on Monday, he said a GSI team was continuing work and drilling was in progress in Misal area in Boalur panchayat in the district. Lignite in this area occurred at 325 to 400 metre depth and GSI has established the occurrence of 1,100 million tonnes of lignite in Misal area, he said.

GSI has already established the presence of a 130-km long and 5 to 10-km wide lignite belt between Mannargudi and Bahur in Puducherry in which Neyveli and Jayamkondam are located.

Resources of molybdenite, a strategic mineral, in Dharmapuri district, the only source of primary ore of molybdenum in the country, has also been established. A 23-km long belt (Harur–Uttangarai belt) has been extensively explored and a reserve of 9.96 million tonnes has been proved. TAMIN, a State government undertaking, has taken up further work in this belt, he said.

The State has platinum group of elements in Sittampundi and Mettupalayam area which were under investigation. It also had large deposits of limestone mainly around Ariyalur supporting a number of cement industries which were not able to meet the demand. Recently, GSI established the occurrence of about 3 million tonnes of low grade limestone in Sengurichi area in Villupuram district and an additional reserve of 0.72 million tonnes of graphite in Sivaganga district.

In addition, about 0.79 million tonnes of zinc and lead, 26.85 million tonnes of bauxite, 481.9 million tonnes of iron ore, 45.52 million tonnes of magnesite and 67,000 tonnes of gold ore occur in the State, Mr. Sundaramoorthy said.

T.S. Sridhar, Commissioner, Department of Museums, said the government museum opened with the geology section.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article1168592.ece

The new Science and Technology policy being formulated by the Tamil Nadu Government has for the first time included Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) as an important component.

S. Vincent, Member-Secretary, Tamil Nadu State Council for Science and Technology (TNSCST), said here on Tuesday that the new Science and Technology policy was ready and was awaiting approval of the Government.

“A committee constituted by the Government for coming out with a policy for science and technology in the State has completed its task and is ready with inputs. For the first time, we have included IPR as one of the components,” he informed.

Dr. Vincent was speaking at the inauguration of an awareness workshop on IPR organised by the Department of Botany and Microbiology, Lady Doak College, Madurai, with the support of Patent Facilitation Centre in Department of Science and Technology, New Delhi, and the Patent Information Centre of Tamil Nadu State Council for Science and Technology.

SPECIAL COMMITTEE

He said that a committee formed by the Principal Secretary to Higher Education K. Ganesan for preparing a policy document had S.P. Thiayagarajan, former Vice-Chancellor, University of Madras; P. Mannar Jawahar, Vice-Chancellor, Anna University; K. Dharmalingam of Madurai Kamaraj University and others as members.

Explaining the efforts taken for encouraging patent regime, Dr. Vincent said that a Patent Information Centre was established at the council's office in Chennai in 2007.

...

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article1165578.ece

Chennai-based media company Krishnaswamy Associates will shortly launch Krishna TV, a not-for-profit television channel that will broadcast programmes on Indian art, culture and heritage.

Presiding over the 48{+t}{+h} anniversary of the company that produces documentary films and television programmes, its founder S. Krishnaswamy said the high-end infrastructure for the project was in place and the channel could go on stream in the next couple of months.

A key figure who will be supporting the venture is Janata Party president Subramanian Swamy, who was also the chief guest at the anniversary celebrations. Dr. Swamy has volunteered to support the project by raising resources, Mr. Krishnaswamy said.

In his address, Dr. Swamy said initiatives like Krishna TV were important to propagate the essential values of India's civilisation. The core of Indian culture was the harmonisation of material growth with spiritual advancement.

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http://expressbuzz.com/images/ratantataletter.pdf

http://expressbuzz.com/nation/ratan-tata-praised-raja-for-fair-and-rational/246585.html

Arul, I agree Thatha shares blame too for the incessant delays and the hopeless state of IT corridor.
PS: I dislike both the parties(heck lets say all *DK*), but atleast Stalin gives atleast 10% of his time on new projects and made all the right noises about industrial growth in Korea and China.

Just for discussion do we even have a 3rd option ? Vaiko is leftist, PMK is cast based, dont know much about Vijayakanth...may be Congress or BJP...?

Everything is free:)

http://idlyvadai.blogspot.com/2011/02/blog-post_08.html

தமிழ் நாட்டில் தொடரப்போவது இலவசமா? இல்லை இனி இலை-வசமா? :)

TN condemns Kerala's move on Mullaiperiyar


The Tamil Nadu government Saturday strongly condemned the Kerala government for acting against the Indian constitution over the Mullaperiyar Dam issue and said it was tantamount to contempt of the Supreme Court.

Reading out a statement while presenting the interim budget for the year 2011-12, Finance Minister K. Anbazhagan said: "In the Mullaperiyar Dam issue, the Kerala government is functioning in a way that is against the Indian Constitution and also affecting the relations between two neighbourly states."

He said part of that plan is the Kerala governor's speech in which it was mentioned that the government would start the Mullaperiyar Dam construction work this year itself.

Kerala Governor R.S. Gavai addressing the state assembly Friday declared construction of a new dam at Mullaperiyar will begin this year itself.

Tracing the dispute, Anbazhagan said the Kerala government amended its laws nullifying the Supreme Court's order of February 2006, the validity of which is contested by Tamil Nadu in the apex court.

Anbazhagan said the Supreme Court has appointed an empowered committee headed by retired Justice of the apex court A.S. Anand to go into various issues of the dam, which is located in Kerala's Idukki district but serves Tamil Nadu.

"The committee on Dec 21, 2010 inspected the dam. Given this position the Kerala government's statement that new dam construction work at Mullaperiyar would commence this year itself contemptuous of the Supreme Court," Anbazhagan said.

According to him the Tamil Nadu government would urge the centre to prevent Kerala from acting in a manner that affects the relationship between two states.

"At the appropriate time the state government would put forth its views before the Supreme Court," Anbazhagan said.

Kerala and Tamil Nadu have been at loggerheads over the Mullaperiyar dam built under an agreement signed in 1886 between the then maharaja of Travancore and the British administration.

The dam, located in Kerala's Idukki district, serves Tamil Nadu. In recent years, Tamil Nadu has demanded that the storage capacity of the dam be raised from 136 feet (41.5 m) to 142 feet (43 m) to meet the increasing demand of water for irrigation.

However, Kerala is seeking construction of a new dam, saying that the existing structure had outlived its life.

While the Supreme Court gave its order in favour of Tamil Nadu to raise the storage levels to 142 ft in February 2006, the Kerala government passed a law effectively nullifying the judgment in March that year.

Opposing the Kerala law, Tamil Nadu had filed a case in the Supreme Court in 2006.

Source (http://expressbuzz.com/states/tamilnadu/tn-condemns-keralas-move-on-mullaiperiyar/245479.html)

TN condemns Kerala's move on Mullaiperiyar



In recent years, Tamil Nadu has demanded that the storage capacity of the dam be raised from 136 feet (41.5 m) to 142 feet (43 m) to meet the increasing demand of water for irrigation.

Source (http://expressbuzz.com/states/tamilnadu/tn-condemns-keralas-move-on-mullaiperiyar/245479.html)



Whoevr reading this will think TN is asking to increase the height of the dam from 136 to 142. The truth is it is not.
Actual height of dam was 142 ft and upon kerala's request MGR conceded the demand of kerala to decrease the height of dam to 136 ft for maintenance and repair works. and when it was done and kerala wasnt increasing theheight , TN requested to RESTORE the height to 142 ft which kerala rejected rghtaway citing the developed districts downstream of the dam and the age of the dam and dragging the issue for more than 20 years.

such a biased news coverage.. either the reporters dont know the story or it was covered and biased.

Lee Kuan Yew on Singapore Indians in his new book "Hard truths to keep Singapore going". Bottomline, he is saying Indians are selfish. Absolutely correct from his / his country's perspective.

http://new.vikatan.com/article.php?mid=2&sid=76&aid=2557

சுயநல இந்தியர்கள்..

சூடு போடும் சிங்கப்பூர் லீ
சிங்கப்பூரின் முன்னாள் பிரதமரும், இந்நாள் மதியுரை அமைச்​சருமான



லீ க்வான் யூ எழுதிய, 'சிங்கப்பூரை வழி நடத்திச் செல்லும் கசப்பான உண்மைகள்’
(Hard truths to keep Singapore going) என்ற புத்தகம்தான் சமீபத்திய பரபரப்பு. சிங்கப்பூரில் குடியேறி வரும் இந்தியர்​களைப் பற்றிய லீயின் கருத்துகள்... செம காரம்!
சிங்கப்பூரின் முக்கியமான மூன்று இடங்களில் இருக்கும் குளோபல் இண்டியன் இன்டர்நேஷனல் பள்ளி​களில் மட்டும் சுமார் 4,000-க்கும் மேற்பட்ட இந்திய மாணவர்கள் படிக்கின்றனர். சிங்கப்பூர் உட்பட மேலும் எட்டு நாடுகளில் செயல்படும் இந்தப் பள்ளிகளில், இந்தியப் பாரம்​பரியத்தையும், காந்தியின் அஹிம்சை கருத்துகளையும் போதிக்கிறார்கள்.

2000-ம் ஆண்டின் தொடக்கத்தில் 7 சதவி​கிதமாக இருந்த இந்திய மக்கள்​தொகை, தற்போது 9.2 சதவிகிதமாகி விட்டது. இந்தப் பள்ளிகளின் கொள்ளும் திறனைவிட மேலும் 300 இந்தியக் குழந்தைகள் விண்ணப்பித்து உள்ளனர். அவர்களுக்காக ஒரு புதிய பள்ளியைக் கட்ட அனுமதி கேட்க... மறுத்துவிட்டது அரசாங்கம்.

இதற்கான காரணங்களைத்தான் தனது புத்தகத்தில் விளக்கி உள்ளார் அமைச்சர் லீ. 'இந்தியப் பள்ளிகளில் தொடக்கக் கல்வியைப் படித்து முடிக்கும் குழந்தைகள், நல்ல அறிவாற்றலையும், உயர்ந்த கல்வித் தகுதிகளையும் பெற்றுள்ளனர். இருப்பினும் ஒருவன் தனது உயர் நிலைக் கல்வியில் படிக்கும் கலாசாரமும், பயிலும் நட்புமே, அதன் பிறகு வாழப்போகும் வாழ்க்கையை அர்த்தமுள்ளதாக்கும். இந்தப் பள்ளிகளில் பாடத் திட்டங்கள், அறிவாற்றல், உணர்வுகள்... எல்லாமே இந்தியாவைச் சார்ந்தே இருப்பதுதான் பிரச்னை. சீனாவில் இருந்து வருபவர்கள், தங்களது குழந்தைகளை உள்ளூர்ப் பள்ளிக்கூடங்களில் படிக்கவைக்கின்றனர். இந்நாட்டின் 80 சதவிகித மக்கள்தொகையாக இருப்பவர்களே, இந்நாட்டின் கலாசாரத் தேவைகளுக்கு வளைந்து கொடுக்கிறார்கள். ஆனால், தொடக்கப் பள்ளியை முடிக்கும் இந்தியக் குழந்தைகள் பலர், தங்களை சிங்கப்பூரின் தேவைகளுக்குத் தயார்ப்படுத்திக் கொள்ளவில்லை என்பதே நிதர்சனமான உண்மை!' என்கிறார்.



இதுபற்றி சிங்கப்பூரிலேயே பிறந்து வளர்ந்து, இந்நாட்டின் தேசிய ராணுவப் படையில் பணி புரியும் தமிழர் ஒருவர், 'நாங்கள் காலம் முழுக்க தேசியப் படையில் சேர்ந்து உழைத்தாலும் எட்ட முடியாத ஊதியங்களை இவர்கள் ஈட்டுகிறார்கள். அதை நாங்கள் தட்டிக் கேட்க முடியாது. ஏனெனில் திறமைக்கும், தேவைக்குமான இடைவெளியே ஊதியத்தை நிர்ணயிக்கிறது. ஆனால், அதுவல்ல விஷயம். இவர்கள் சில வருடங்கள் சிங்கப்பூரில் தங்கி நிரந்தரக் குடியுரிமையைப் பெற்றுக்கொள்பவர்கள், திடீரென அமெரிக்காவுக்கோ, ஆஸ்திரேலியாவுக்கோ பறந்துவிடுகிறார்கள். இவ்வூர் நிரந்தரக் குடிமகன் என்கிற அடையாளத்தை வைத்துக்கொண்டு பல்வேறு நாடுகளுக்கு விசாவே இல்லாமல் பிரயாணிக்கலாம். இந்த வசதியை Visa waiver program என்பார்கள். இதனால் இவர்கள் செல்லும் நாடுகளில் க்ரீன் கார்டு வாங்குவதும் எளிதாகிவிடுகிறது.

ஆனால், சிங்கப்பூரில் பிறந்து நிரந்தரக் குடியுரிமைப் பெறும் இரண்டாம் தலைமுறைக் குழந்தைகள் கட்டாயமாக ராணுவப் படையில் சேர்ந்து, இரண்டு ஆண்டு காலமாவது தேர்ச்சி பெற வேண்டும். இது சிங்கப்பூரில் உள்ள ஒவ்வொரு குடிமகனையும் உடல் அளவிலும், மனதளவிலும் தயார் செய்யும். ஆனால், இதை சில இந்தியப் பெற்றோர்கள் வெறுக்கிறார்கள். 'நான் எனது தொழில் ரீதியாக சிங்கப்பூர் வந்ததுக்கு, எனது குழந்தை ஏன் ராணுவத்தில் சேர்ந்து அல்லல்பட வேண்டும். அதனால் என் குழந்தைகளுக்கு இந்நாட்டு நிரந்தரக் குடியுரிமை வேண்டாம்’ என்ற மனரீதியில்தான் இருக்கிறார்கள்.

1940-ல் வெறுங்கையோடு இங்கே பிழைக்க வந்து, தன் கடுமையான உழைப்பால் படிப்படியாக முன்னேறி இன்று உயர்ந்த நிலையில் இருக்கும் சிங்கப்பூர் தமிழர் ஒருவர், 'அந்தக் காலத்தில் வெறும் 2.5 வெள்ளிக் காசு கூலிக்காக ஜுராங்க் பார்க் வரை நடந்து போய் வேலை பார்ப்பேன். சொந்த ஊரில் இருந்து, இங்க வந்து தோத்துடுவோமோ என்கிற பயத்தில் இரவு பகல் பார்க்காமல் உழைத்தேன். எங்க குடும்பத்தோடு நான் கழித்திருக்க வேண்டிய சந்தோஷமான பல தருணங்களை என் உழைப்பும் இந்த மண்ணும் கேட்டிருக்கு. அதே சமயம், வறுமையில் வந்து சேர்ந்த எங்களோட கண்ணீர்த் துளிகளையும் தாங்கியிருக்கு. பிழைக்கணும் என்ற ஆசை இருப்பதில் தவறில்லை. ஆனால், இந்நாட்டின் பொருளாதார மூலதனம், இட வசதி, அரசாங்க சலுகைகளை மட்டும் நன்றாகப் பயன்படுத்திக்கொண்டு, கடைசியில் காரியவாதிகளைப் போன்று குடும்பத்தோடு ஒரேடியாக ஊரைவிட்டுக் கிளம்புவதைத்தான் ஏற்றுக்​கொள்ள முடியவில்லை...' என்றார்.

இன்றைய நிகழ்வுகள் தொடரும் பட்சத்தில், இந்தியர்​களுக்கு எதிராகக் கடுமையான சட்ட திட்டங்களை சிங்கப்பூர் அரசு விதிக்கும் நாள் வரும் என்றே எதிர்பார்க்​கப்படுகிறது. அப்படி நிகழ்ந்தால், அது இன்றைய தலை​முறையை மட்டுமல்ல, எதிர்கால சந்ததியினரையும் பாதிக்கும்!

திசை மாறும் இந்தியர்கள் லீ-யின் ஆலோசனையைக் கேட்ட பிறகாவது மாறுவார்களா, பார்ப்போம்!

X-post from Tirupur thread. Gnani's (http://gnani.net.in/%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%82%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B1-%E0%AE%8E/) article


முதலில் இந்த வார…இல்லையில்லை இந்த பத்தாண்டுகளுக்கான பூச்செண்டை சென்னை உயர்நீதிமன்ற தலைமை நீதிபதி இக்பால், நீதிபதி சிவஞானம் ஆகியோருக்கு அறிவித்துவிடுகிறேன்.

கடந்த இருபதாண்டுகளாக நொய்யல் ஆற்றை சாயக்கழிவுகளால் கெடுத்து நாசமாக்கி, லட்சக்கணக்கான விவசாய நிலங்களையும் விவசாயிகள் வாழ்க்கையையும் வீணாக்கிய திருப்பூர் சாயப்பட்டறைகளை உடனடியாக மூடிவிட்டு, ஒவ்வொரு பட்டறையும் ஒரு சொட்டுக் கழிவையும் வெளியில் அனுப்பாத நிலையை அடைந்தபின்னரே திறக்க அனுமதிக்கப்பட வேண்டும் என்று நீதிபதிகள் பிறப்பித்திருக்கும் உத்தரவு வரலாற்றுச் சிறப்பு மிக்கது.

அது மட்டுமல்ல. சீரோ டிஸ்சார்ஜ் என்று சொல்லிக் கொண்டு சூழலை இதுவரை மாசுபடுத்தி வந்த பட்டறைகளை இத்தனை வருடம் அனுமதித்த தமிழக அரசின் மாசுக் ‘கட்டுப்பாட்டு’ வாரியத்தின் அதிகாரிகள் பட்டியலைத் தயாரித்து அவர்கள் மீது நடவடிக்கை எடுக்க்வேண்டும் என்றும் நீதிபதிகள் அரசுக்கு உத்தரவிட்டிருக்கிறார்கள்.

இதற்கெதிராக மறு பரிசீலனை மனு போடுவோம் என்று வாரியம் சொல்லியிருப்பது வெட்கக்கேடானது.

இது தேர்தல் நேரமென்பதால், நீதிமன்ற உத்தரவுகளை நடைமுறையில் நீர்த்துப் போகச் செய்து சாயப்பட்டறை அதிபர்களை சந்தோஷப்படுத்தும் முயற்சிகளில் அரசியல் கட்சிகள் இறங்கும் வாய்ப்பு அதிகமாக இருக்கிறது. ஏற்கனவே ‘சூழலைக் கெடுத்தவன்தான் இழப்பீட்டைக் கொடுக்க வேண்டும்’ என்ற தெளிவான உச்ச நீதிமன்ற தீர்ப்புகளுக்கு முரணாக, தமிழக அரசு பொது மக்களின் வரிப்பணத்தை, சுற்றுச்சூழலை மாசுபடுத்தியவர்களுக்கு மான்யமாக வழங்கிக் கொண்டிருக்கிறது. இதுவரை 320 கோடி ரூபாய் மக்கள் பணத்தை அளித்திருக்கிறது. இது போதாது, இன்னும் வேண்டும் என்று நதி முழுங்கி சாயக்காரர்கள் கேட்டுக் கொண்டே இருக்கிறார்கள். ஆற்றை மட்டுமல்ல, கடலையும் கெடுப்போம் என்று திட்டம் தீட்டிக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார்கள்.( கல்கி நவம்பர் 2010 ஓ பக்கங்கள்)

உடனடியாக ஆயிரக்கணக்கான தொழிலாளர்கள் பாதிக்கப்படுவார்கள்; உற்பத்தி பாதிக்கப்படும்; அந்நியச் செலாவணி சம்பாதிப்பது பாதிக்கப்படும் என்ற கூக்கூரல்களை எழுப்பி நீதி மன்ற உத்தரவை நீர்க்கச் செய்யும் வேலைகளில் தொழிலதிபர்கள் இறங்குவார்கள். இந்த மிரட்டல்களுக்கு மக்களோ அரசோ அடிபணியக் கூடாது. தொழிலாளர்கள் பெயரைச் சொல்லி பூச்சாண்டி காட்டி ஏற்கனவே ஆயிரக்கணக்கான விவசாயக் கூலிகளையும் விவசாயிகளையும் கடுமையாக பாதிப்புக்கு உள்ளாக்கியவர்கள் இவர்கள். திருப்பூரில் கோடி கோடியாக சம்பாதித்தாலும், விவசாயத்தை சாகடித்துவிட்டு, டைனிங் டேபிளில் தட்டில் சாயப் பட்டறையின் சோடா உப்பையும் குளோரைடையும் பரிமாறினால் உணவாக யாரும் சாப்பிடமுடியாது. நெல்லும் பருப்பும் உற்பத்தி செய்தே ஆகவேண்டும்.

நீதிபதிகள் இக்பால், சிவஞானம் ஆகியோரின் உத்தரவில் உள்ள முதல் முக்கியமான அம்சம் பற்றி கொஞ்சம் ஆழமாகப் பார்ப்போம். ஒரு சொட்டு கூடக் கழிவை வெளியேற்றாமல் சீரோ டிஸ்சார்ஜ் நிலையை சாதித்தால் மட்டுமே ஒரு சாயப்பட்டறையை திரும்பவும் இயங்க அனுமதிக்கலாம் என்பதே நீதிபதிகளின் உத்தரவு.

இப்போதுள்ள சுத்திகரிப்பு நிலையங்களால் சீரோ டிஸ்சார்ஜ் நிலையை எட்டவைக்க முடியவே முடியாது என்பதே அறிவியல்படியான உண்மை நிலை.சாயக் கழிவுகளில் வரும் நீரை மட்டுமே இவை சுத்தப்படுத்துகின்றன. ரிவர்ஸ் ஆஸ்மாசிஸ் எனப்படும் ஆர்.ஓ நிலையங்கள் இவை. நீரை எடுத்த பிறகு திடக் கழிவுகளை சாக்குப் பைகளில் கட்டி, பட்டறை வளாகத்திலேயே வைத்துக் கொள்ள வேண்டியதுதான். அப்படித்தான் வைத்து வருகிறார்கள்.சோடா உப்பு, குளோரைடுகள், இதர ரசாயனங்களின் திடக்கழிவுகள் இவை.

ஆர்.ஓ முறையில் பயன்படுத்தும் சவ்வுகள் இரு வருடங்களுக்கு மேல் தாக்குப் பிடிக்காதவை. உண்மையில் இவை கடல் நீரில் இருக்கும் உப்பை அகற்றி நல்ல நீராக்கும் வேலைக்கே சாலச் சிறந்தவை. துணிகளுக்கு சாயம் போடும் பட்டறைகளில், துணியை வெளுப்பதிலிருந்து ( பிளீச்சிங்), வண்ணம் ஏற்றுவது வரைப் பயன்படுத்தும் பல்வேறு ரசாயனங்களுக்கு உகந்தவையே அல்ல.

இது மாசுக் கட்டுப்பாட்டு வாரியத்துக்கும் பட்டறை அதிபர்களுக்கும் தெரியாதது அல்ல. அதனால்தான் புத்திசாலித்தனமாக நீதிமன்றம் முன்பு வைக்கும் ஆவணங்களில் தொடங்கி, எல்லா இடத்திலும் சீரோ டிஸ்சார்ஜ் என்று சொல்லாமல் சீரோ லிக்விட் டிஸ்சார்ஜ் என்று மட்டும் சொல்லிக் கொள்கிறார்கள். அதாவது திரவக் கழிவு மட்டும் நிறுத்தப்படும். திடக்கழிவு ? கோணிப் பையில் கட்டிக் கட்டி வாரிசுகளுக்கு சொத்தாகக் கொடுத்துவிட்டுப் போக வேண்டியதுதான்.

அப்படியானால் திடக்கழிவையும் வெளிவிடாமல் சுத்திகரிக்கும் முறை இல்லையா? இருக்கிறது என்று தமிழகத்தை சேர்ந்த ஒரு விஞ்ஞானியே பைலட் ப்ளாண்ட் வைத்து செய்து காட்டியிருக்கிறார். தற்போது 77 வயதாகும் டாக்டர் எஸ்.ஆர்.ராமசாமி அமெரிக்காவில் விஞ்ஞான தொழில்நுட்ப ஆலோசகராக இருக்கிறார். தன் உருவாக்கங்களுக்காக ஐந்து அமெரிக்க காப்புரிமைகள் ( பேடண்ட்டுகள்) பெற்றவர். அண்ணாமலைப் பல்கலைக்கழகம், கரக்பூர் ஐ.ஐ.டி, லூயிவில்லி பல்கலைக்கழகம், லண்டன் பலகலைக்கழகங்களிலெல்லாம் படித்தவர்.

நேரடி ஆவியாக்கும் முறைப்படி இவர் உருவாக்கியிருக்கும் சுத்திகரிப்பு முறையில் திரவக்கழிவு சுத்தமாகி நல்ல தண்ணீராக்கப்படுகிறது. திடக்கழிவுகளில் இருந்து வண்ணமும், மாசுகளும் நீக்கப்பட்டு, சோடா உப்பும், குளோரைடுகளும் மறுபடியும் பயன்படுத்தத் தயாரான நிலையில் மீட்டெடுக்கப்படுகின்றன.

ஒரு சோதனை ஓட்டமாக, கோவை வசுந்தரா, கரூர் கே.பி.ரங்கசாமி ஆகிய தொழில் முனைவர்களின் ஏற்பாட்டில், திருப்பூர் அருகே சுல்தான்பேட்டையில் ஒரு சாயப்பட்டறையில் இந்த நேரடி ஆவியாக்கல் முறை சுத்திகரிப்பை விஞ்ஞானி ராமசாமி செய்து காட்டினார். வெற்றிகரமாக செய்யப்பட்ட இந்த முயற்சியில் தினசரி 10 ஆயிரம் லிட்டர் கழிவு சுத்திகரிக்கப்பட்டது.

இதை நிர்மாணிப்பதற்கு ஆகக்கூடிய செலவு சுமார் 80 லட்சம். ஆனால் இதுவரை போடப்பட்டிருக்கும் ஆர்.ஓ சுத்திகரிப்பு முறையில் இல்லாத ஒரு பெரும் லாபம் இதில் உள்ளது என்று இந்த முனைவர்கள் தெரிவிக்கின்றனர். சோடா உப்பு, குளோரைடுகளை மீட்டெடுப்பதால், ஆண்டுக்கு சுமார் 40 லட்சம் ரூபாய் மிச்சமாகிறது. எனவே சுத்திகரிப்பு நிலையத்தை நிறுவ போட்ட முதலீட்டை இரண்டே வருடங்களில் எடுத்துவிடலாம். அதன்பிறகு சுத்திகரிப்பினால் வருடத்துக்கு 40 லட்ச ரூபாய் லாபம் கிடைக்கிறது !

ஆனால் ஏற்கனவே ஆர்.ஓ முறையை தமிழக மாசுக் கட்டுப்பாட்டு வாரியம் அங்கீகரித்துவிட்டிருந்தபடியால், மாற்று வழிகளில் அது அக்கறை காட்டவில்லை. தமிழகத்துக்கு வந்து இந்த முயற்சியில் ஈடுபட்ட விஞ்ஞானி ராமசாமியும் சோர்வுற்று திரும்ப அமெரிக்காவுக்குப் போய்விட்டார்.

இப்போது தெளிவான, கறாரான உத்தரவை நீதிபதிகள் பிறப்பித்திருக்கும் நிலையில், இனி வெறுமே சீரோ லிக்விட் டிஸ்சார்ஜ் என்றில்லாமல் சீரோ ஆல் டிஸ்சார்ஜை உறுதிப்படுத்த வேண்டும். அதற்கான தொழில்நுட்பத்தில் ஏன் மாசுக் கட்டுப்பாடு வாரியம் இதுவரை அக்கறை காட்டவில்லை என்று விசாரிக்க வேண்டும். இனி அக்கறை காட்டும்படி உத்தரவிடவேண்டும். தேவைப்பட்டால், நீதிமன்றமே ஓர் உயர்நுட்ப வல்லுநர் குழுவை நியமித்து எந்த தொழில்நுட்பம் உகந்தது என்று குறிப்பிட்ட காலத்துக்குள் பரிந்துரைக்கும்படி உத்தரவிடலாம். விஞ்ஞானி ராமசாமியின் தொழில்நுட்ப முறையை அரசோ, சாயப்பட்டறை உரிமையாளர்களின் சங்கமோ சோதனை ஓட்டமாக நிறுவி, மற்றவர்களுக்கு நம்பிக்கை வரச் செய்து காட்டலாம்.

இதுவரை இருந்த அரைகுறை சுத்திகரிப்பையே பல பட்டறைகள் செய்யாமல் சட்ட விரோதமாக இயங்கி வந்திருக்கின்றன. இனி சுத்திகரிப்பை செய்யத் தொடங்கினால் பழைய தவறுக்கு தண்டனை இல்லாமல் அவர்களை அனுமதித்துவிடலாம் என்பது தவறான முன்னுதாரணமாகிவிடும். அவர்களுக்கு கடுமையான அபராதம் விதித்து அந்த அபராதத்தொகைகள் நொய்யல் மாசினால் பாதிப்புக்குள்ளான விவசாயிகளுக்கு செலவிடப்படவேண்டும்.

எப்படியானாலும் இந்த முறை சீரோ ஆல் டிஸ்சார்ஜ் இல்லாமல் மறுபடியும் சாயப்பட்டறைகளை இயங்க அனுமதிக்கவே கூடாது. ராமேஸ்வரம் மீனவர்களை சிங்களப் படைகள் கொல்கின்றன. தமிழ் விவசாயிகளை தமிழ் தொழிலதிபர்களே சித்ரவதை செய்து கொன்றுகொண்டிருப்பதும் கூடவே நிறுத்தப்படவேண்டும். நம் சுற்றுச்சூழலைக் கெடுக்காமல் பணம் சம்பாதிக்கும் மன நிலை வந்தால்தான் உண்ஐயில் திருப்பூரைக் காப்பாற்றமுடியும். இல்லாவிட்டால் ஒரு பக்கம் பண மூட்டையும் மறுபக்கம் திடக்கழிவு மூட்டையுமாக அழிவோம்.

இந்த வார நகைச்சுவை:

கருணாநிதி ( டெல்லியில்):தி.மு.க கூட்டணியில் பா.ம.க உள்ளது.

ராமதாஸ் ( சென்னையில்): அது பற்றி இன்னும் நாங்கள் இன்னும் முடிவு செய்யவில்லை.

கருணாநிதி:(டெல்லியில்) அப்படியானால், நாங்களும் அது பற்றி இன்னும் முடிவு செய்யவில்லை.

இந்த வார பூச்செண்டு:

சபரிமலையில் மகரவிளக்கு மனிதர்களால்தான் ஏற்றப்படுகிறது என்று பகுத்தறிவாளர்கள் நீண்ட காலமாக சொல்லி வருவது உண்மைதான் என்று அறிவித்திருப்பதற்காக திருவாங்கூர் தேவஸ்வம் போர்டுக்கு இ.வா.பூ.

இந்த வார கேள்வி:

டெலிகாம் ஊழலுக்காக ஆ.ராசாவை கைது செய்திருக்கும் சி.பி.ஐ, ராசாவுக்கு டெலிகாம் இலாகாதான் கிடைக்க வேண்டும் என்பதற்காக லாபி செய்தவர்களையும் ராசாவுக்கு அந்தத் துறைதான் தரவேண்டும் என்று அடம் பிடித்த கட்சித்தலைமையையும் இன்னும் கைது செய்யாமல் இருப்பது ஏன் ? ஊழல் முன்கூட்டியே திட்டமிடப்பட்டது என்பதற்கு லாபியிங்கே ஓர் ஆதாரமில்லையா?

இந்த வார சந்தேகம்:

ஒருவர் மீதான வழக்கு விசாரணையில் இருக்கும்போது, குறிப்பிட்ட ஊரில் மட்டுமே தங்கியிருந்து தினசரி காவல் நிலையத்துக்கு வந்து கையெழுத்திடவேண்டுமென்ற நடைமுறை நம் ஊரில் இருக்கிறது. இப்படி ஒருவரை அலைக்கழிக்காமல் அவரை சுதந்திரமாக நடமாடவிட்டுவிட்டு, அவர் எங்கிருக்கிறார் என்பதை அதிகாரிகள் தெரிந்துகொள்ள நவீன தொழில்நுட்பமான ரேடியோ காலரை அவரிடம் பொருத்திப் பயன்படுத்தும் அமெரிக்கா செய்வதை மட்டும் தவறு என்று ஏன் சொல்ல வேண்டும் ?

Number of wards in Madurai, Coimbatore to go up to 100

CHENNAI: A Bill seeking to raise the number of wards in the Corporations of Madurai and Coimbatore to 100 was introduced in the State Assembly on Wednesday.

Introducing the Bill, Deputy Chief Minister M.K. Stalin said the government had decided to expand the limits of the Madurai and Coimbatore cities by including some adjoining local bodies.

In view of this expansion, the government had decided to raise the number of wards to 100, he said.

The present number of divisions in these two Corporations is 72.

AIADMK members opposed the Bill at the introduction stage itself.

Since it is common news to MDU & CBE, I am posting here.

Question is, why opposition party is opposing the bill???

That is blind opposition! If ADMK do that, DMK will oppose.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12217458

Since it is common news to MDU & CBE, I am posting here.

Question is, why opposition party is opposing the bill???

They should stop calling minority party as the 'Opposition' Party. Then they may stop 'opposing' everything blindly. :ohno::banana::bash:

ஊட்டி அருகே, கூக்கல்தொரை பகுதி பெண்களின் இரண்டு நாள் தொடர் சாலை மறியல் போராட்டத்தால், "டாஸ்மாக்' மதுக்கடைக்கு சீல் வைக்கப்பட்டது.நீலகிரி மாவட்டம் ஊட்டி தாலுகாவில், கூக்கல் ஊராட்சிக்குட்பட்ட பஜாரில், டாஸ்மாக் மதுக்கடையும், ரேஷன் கடையும் அருகருகே உள்ளன. ரேஷன் பொருள் வாங்க வரும் பெண்கள், போதையில் சுற்றும், "குடிமகன்'களால் பாதிக்கப்பட்டனர். இதனால், "கூக்கல்தொரை பஜாரில் உள்ள மதுக்கடையை அகற்றவேண்டும்' என, இப்பகுதி மக்கள் கோரி வந்தனர்.

படுகர் அமைப்பான, "நாக்குபெட்டா' இளைஞர் பேரவை சார்பில் உண்ணாவிரத போராட்டமும் நடத்தப்பட்டது. தொடர்ந்து, நீலகிரி கலெக்டரை நேரில் சந்தித்தும், கலெக்டர் அலுவலகத்தை முற்றுகையிட்டும், குறிப்பிட்ட மதுக்கடை அகற்றப்படவில்லை.நேற்று முன்தினம் அதே கிராமத்தை சேர்ந்த ரமேஷ் என்பவர், டாஸ்மாக் கடையில், "சரக்கு' வாங்கியபோது, ஊழியர்களுடன் வாக்குவாதம் செய்தார். ஊழியர்களை உள்ளே வைத்து கடையை அடைத்த ரமேஷை, போலீசார் கைது செய்து சிறையில் அடைத்தனர்.

இந்த தகவல் பரவியதும், கிராம மக்கள் கொதிப்படைந்தனர்."ரமேஷை விடுதலை செய்வதுடன், சர்ச்சைக்குரிய மதுக்கடையை அகற்றவேண்டும்' என, வலியுறுத்தி, நேற்று முன்தினம் மாலை முதல் சாலை மறியலில் ஈடுபட்டனர். கோத்தகிரி - கூக்கல்தொரை வழித்தடத்தில் போக்குவரத்து ஸ்தம்பித்தது. அதிகாரிகள் பேச்சு நடத்தியும் முடிவு ஏற்படவில்லை.பெண்கள் உட்பட ஒருவரும் கலைந்து செல்லாமல், நள்ளிரவு முழுவதும், கடும் குளிரிலும் தொடர் மறியலில் ஈடுபட்டனர். நேற்று விடிந்தபிறகும், போராட்டம் தொடர்ந்ததால், பதட்டம் அதிகரித்தது; ஏராளமான போலீசார் குவிக்கப்பட்டனர்.

குன்னூர் ஆர்.டி.ஓ., காந்திமதி, ஊட்டி தாசில்தார் ஜோகி, ஆய தீர்வை துணை ஆணையர் முபாரக் அலி, டாஸ்மாக் பொதுமேலாளர் ராதாகிருஷ்ணன், மண்டல துணை தாசில்தார் பாக்கியநாதன், ஆர்.ஐ., தினேஷ் ஆகியோர் மறியலில் ஈடுப்பட்டவர்களுடன் காலை மீண்டும் பேச்சு நடத்தினர்."மக்களுக்கு இடையூறாக உள்ள டாஸ்மாக் கடையை நிரந்தரமாக அகற்றவேண்டும்; இல்லையெனில், சாகும்வரை உண்ணாவிரதம், ரேஷன் கார்டு மற்றும் வாக்காளர் அட்டை ஒப்படைப்பு போராட்டம் நடத்துவோம். தேர்தல் புறக்கணிப்பு போராட்டம் நடத்துவோம்' என, ஆவேசத்துடன் பெண்கள் தெரிவித்தனர்.

வேறு வழியில்லாத அதிகாரிகள், மக்கள் கோரிக்கையை ஏற்று, மதுக்கடைக்கு சீல் வைத்தனர். ஒரு வழியாக, இரண்டு நாள் நீடித்த சாலை மறியல் போராட்டம் கைவிடப்பட்டது.தாசில்தார் ஜோகி கூறுகையில், ""நீண்டநேரம் பேச்சு நடத்தியும், போராட்டம் தொடர்ந்ததால், மாவட்ட கலெக்டர் உள்ளிட்ட சம்பந்தப்பட்ட உயர் அதிகாரிகளிடம் இப்பிரச்னை குறித்து தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. நிரந்தரமாக கடை அகற்றுவது அரசின் நடவடிக்கையை பொறுத்துள்ளது. இருப்பினும், மக்கள் உணர்வுகளுக்கு மதிப்பளிக்கும் வகையில் அதுவரை, கடைக்கு "சீல்' வைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது,'' என்றார்.

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=185216

ithe madhiri TN fulla nadanthaal nalla irukkum, not only for tasmac but also for all kind of corruptions.

When we can call a minority party as a ruling party, why not as opposition party :)


They should stop calling minority party as the 'Opposition' Party. Then they may stop 'opposing' everything blindly. :ohno::banana::bash:

'Much is forgiven if there is development. Corrupt leaders of two parties, the DMK and AIADMK, have between them run Tamil Nadu state assembly coalitions continuously for 44 years. Operating in the style of Malaysia’s former prime minister Mahathir bin Mohamad, they have led strong economic, social and industrial development (including respectable SEZs) and awarded jobs and business contracts in the state and ministerial coalition posts in Delhi. This may not be ethical government, but it is a model of development that works.'

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2011/02/11/india%E2%80%99s-protection-against-egypt-style-rebellions/

Since it is common news to MDU & CBE, I am posting here.

Question is, why opposition party is opposing the bill???

OMG.. when is the tradition going to change!!! What problems do ADMK have in these cities expanding? These senseless people should be sent to a dense forest. :bash:

When we can call a minority party as a ruling party, why not as opposition party :)

Only because the 'opposition' party takes the name 'opposition' seriously and opposes everything.:lol:

BBC on history of Tamil Nadu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8U_Lx52WGs

Only because the 'opposition' party takes the name 'opposition' seriously and opposes everything.:lol:

"minority" (ruling) party too takes the word "minority" seriously and acts only in minority's interest ignoring majority blindly lots of times. We seriously have to revamp our political terminologies :lol:

"minority" (ruling) party too takes the word "minority" seriously and acts only in minority's interest ignoring majority blindly lots of times. We seriously have to revamp our political terminologies :lol:

Atleast they are also trying to grow the city too.
Why is the "majority" party oppose everything for the sake of opposing just like PMK? :)

Atleast they are also trying to grow the city too.
Why is the "majority" party oppose everything for the sake of opposing just like PMK? :)

Talking about "majority" party and giving PMK as example -------> :lol::lol::lol:

Atleast they are also trying to grow the city too.
Why is the "majority" party oppose everything for the sake of opposing just like PMK? :)

:nuts:

My definition of "minority" in that particular post was different:) Though not related to TN forums things like this (http://centreright.in/2011/02/islamic-banking-ii-kerala-hc-judgment-in-subramanyam-swamy-v-state-of-kerala/#) and this (http://centreright.in/2011/02/guest-post-islamic-banking-in-india/#), are the what all our "minority" ruling parties are hell-bent on doing.

I really don't understand the need to do things like this in a so-called "secular" republic like India. Don't we have enough problems already? Why fan more of it with such stupid acts? It's definitely bad for everyone involved. By "everyone" I mean both the majority and minority.

Constitution should be changed to enforce that "no individual should hold CM seat or PM seat for more than 10 years". This will inject some fresh blood and new leadership. Amma and Tatha would have retired by now. Individual or Family politics is very unfair to both people and the party.

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Very sensible suggestion. I will modify your statement..."no individual should hold any Political position in Govt. or Quasi Govt. Institutions for more than 10 years".

Thatha is becoming like Egypt's Mubarak :D. Even in West Bengal commies have ruled for too long. WB definitely needs Egypt-style revolution. But the other option is Mamata Bannerjee. Not a good prospect.

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Very sensible suggestion. I will modify your statement..."no individual should hold any Political position in Govt. or Quasi Govt. Institutions for more than 10 years".

Makes sense and we need to do Egypt type Revolution to get this accomplished.

Revolution for what? If Karunanidhi dies and someone else comes into power, will everyone be happy? These are short term. I would like to be part of a revolution for the president to be also elected by the people and to give him equal/more powers as with the pm....someone like abdul kalam with more powers, he should decide what the cbi does, not the pm. Also, I would like a revolution where our archaic constitution/law book is burnt and a new one is freshly written, taking good inputs from all the constitutions of the world.

^^ The number of people going behind 500 rupee notes, and biriyani packets are much much much much more than the number of people who really want a revolution/change to take place.
At the end of the day, biriyanies and quarter packets beat the whole nation. This is the truth, and it will never change.

Constitution should be changed to enforce that "no individual should hold CM seat or PM seat for more than 10 years". This will inject some fresh blood and new leadership. Amma and Tatha would have retired by now. Individual or Family politics is very unfair to both people and the party.

then puppet PM, CMs, daughters, manaivi, thunaivi, son, daughter in law, son in law, grand son, grand daughters, son, friend, friends family will be in CM/PM chairs.

Our politicians will bring systems in such way that it will suit their family at the best rather than people of the nation.

Revolution for what? If Karunanidhi dies and someone else comes into power, will everyone be happy? These are short term. I would like to be part of a revolution for the president to be also elected by the people and to give him equal/more powers as with the pm....someone like abdul kalam with more powers, he should decide what the cbi does, not the pm. Also, I would like a revolution where our archaic constitution/law book is burnt and a new one is freshly written, taking good inputs from all the constitutions of the world.

Absolutely yes. Let us come to the reality. Anybody in power, if they are not doing well, we start to blame them and we want them to leave the power. Before we want them to leave the power, we really need to ask ourself, do we really have any good person to rule us ????? No No and No will be the answer. It is not to blame only polititions. If we really want to blame somebody, we have to blame every individual of this country including us. Corruption starts from an individual, then from family, then from community, then from city - state and finally country. Everybody need to ask ourself, do we really perfect and got full eligible to blame others without seeing us ???? Producing a good leader is not something that can be made in over night. It is a long term and it starts from every individual i.e., everyone of us. Not by changing polititions.

then puppet PM, CMs, daughters, manaivi, thunaivi, son, daughter in law, son in law, grand son, grand daughters, son, friend, friends family will be in CM/PM chairs.

Our politicians will bring systems in such way that it will suit their family at the best rather than people of the nation.

Then let's go back to the old way. Let the representatives tour the entire country / state with a garland on its trunk. Whoever it chooses is CM / PM :)

The reps are allowed to use multiple elephants for various cabinets / MP seats

^^ The number of people going behind 500 rupee notes, and biriyani packets are much much much much more than the number of people who really want a revolution/change to take place.
At the end of the day, biriyanies and quarter packets beat the whole nation. This is the truth, and it will never change.

yeah...i forgot to mention, a revolution to implement 0 campaigning atleast for the post of president. Some ad agencies can create uniform videos for all the presidential candidates, regarding what they have done for the country, and thats it.

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நண்பர்களே!!!

தேசிய அவமானமான ஸ்பெக்ட்ரம் பற்றி நாம் அறிவோம், அதில் ஒண்ணேமுக்கால் லட்சம் கோடி ரூபாய் அளவுக்கெல்லாம் ஊழல் செய்யப்படவேயில்லை என்றெல்லாம் மக்களே பேச ஆரம்பித்துவிட்டனர். ராஜா கைது தான் செய்யப்பட்டாரே தவிர குற்றம் நிரூபிக்கப்படவில்லை, அதுவரை நாங்கள் அவரை அரவணைத்துக் காப்போம் என்கிறார் முதல்வர். இது தினம் ஒரு அறிக்கை வரும் தேர்தல் நேரம்,மக்கள் சிந்திக்க வேண்டிய காலம், அப்படி ஸ்பெக்ட்ரம் ஊழலில் மெய்யாகவே நடந்தது என்ன ?!!! என்பதை துபாயில் பணிபுரியும் சிவக்குமார் என்னும் பொறியாளர் அருமையாக ஆய்வு செய்து எழுதியுள்ளார், இது இப்போது இமெயிலில் வரத்துவங்கிவிட்டது, இனியேனும் நன்கு படித்தவர்கள் அவசியம் சிரமம் பாராமல் சிந்தித்து வாக்களித்து நாட்டைக்காக்கவேண்டும். அவசியம் இதைப்படித்துவிட்டு ஃபேஸ்புக், ஆர்குட், ட்விட்டர் தளங்களில் ஃபார்வர்டும் செய்யவும்.

மக்கள் அனைவரையும் இலவசங்களை மட்டுமே வாங்க தெரிந்த மாக்கான்கள் என்றே நினைத்து விட்டார் நம் முதல்வர். அதற்காகத்தான் தமிழ்நாட்டில் அனைவரும் குழந்தை பெற்றுகொள்கிறார்கள் என்று சொன்னாலும் ஆச்சரிய படுவதற்கு இல்லை. என்னது ஏழைகள் பயன்படுத்தும் அளவிற்கு குறைந்த விலையில் சேவையை கொண்டுவந்தது ராசாவா? மக்களே உண்மையை புரிந்து கொள்ளுங்கள். இந்த புளுகு மூட்டைகளின் பாவத்திற்கு ஆளாகாதீர்கள். விலை குறைந்ததிற்கான காரணத்தை இங்கு குறிப்பிடுகிறேன்.

1999 ஆண்டில் தான் தொலைதொடர்பு உரிமங்கள் வழங்க ஆரம்பிக்கபட்டது. அன்று வெறும் பணம் படைத்தவர்கள் மட்டுமே கைபேசியை பயன்படுத்தினர். எனவே நுகர்வோரின் எண்ணிக்கை மிக குறைவு. சில பல லட்சங்கள் மட்டுமே. தொழில் நுட்பவளமான 1G அல்லது 2G அலைக்கற்றைகள் மிக அதிக அளவில் அரசிடம் கையிருப்பு இருந்துள்ளது. ஆனால் உரிமம் வாங்க உலக அளவிலோ இந்திய அளவிலோ போட்டிகள் இல்லை. விலை கொடுத்து உரிமம் வாங்கியவர்கள் லாபம் பெற நுகர்வோரிடம் நிமிடத்திற்கு அதிக கட்டணம்(In coming and out going ) வசூல் செய்ய கட்டாயம் ஏற்பட்டது. இதில் கவனிக்க வேண்டிய இன்னொரு விஷயம் என்னவென்றால் நாம் தான் வசதி படைத்தவர்களாயிற்றே என்று இஷ்டத்திற்கு பேசி நேரத்தையோ பணத்தையோ அன்றைய வசதி படைத்தவர்கள் விரயம் செய்யவில்லை. குறைவான நேரத்துக்குதான் கைபேசியை பயன்படுத்தினர்.

நுகர்வோரின் எண்ணிக்கை குறைவாக இருந்ததால்தான் அன்று அலைகற்றை உரிமம் பெற அதிக நிறுவனங்கள் முன்வரவில்லை. இதை சரி செய்ய அன்றைய அரசு ஒரு தொலை தொடர்பு புரட்சியை உருவாக்க முயன்றது. விளைவு நாளுக்கு நாள் நுகர்வோரின் எண்ணிக்கை அதிகமானது. இன்றும் அதிகமாகி கொண்டே இருக்கிறது. 2010 நுகர்வோரின் எண்ணிக்கை சுமார் 60 கோடிக்கும் மேல். 2008 இல் 50 கோடிக்கும் மேல்.

இதற்கும் அதிகமான மக்கள் பயன்படுத்தும் அளவுக்கு போதிய அலைகற்றைகள் அரசிடம் இன்றும் உள்ளனர். ஆனால் பயன்படுத்துவோரின் எண்ணிக்கை வெறும் 60 கோடிதான். 122 தகுதி இல்லாத நிறுவனங்களுக்கு உரிமம் வழங்க பட்டுள்ளது. தகுதி என்றால் என்ன? போதிய அனுபவம், வங்கி காசோலை, வங்கி செக்யூரிட்டி டெபொசிட் அது மட்டும் இல்லை வாங்கியவுடன் குறிப்பிட்ட காலத்திற்குள் சேவையை தொடங்க வேண்டும். இந்த குறிப்பை நினைவில் வைத்து கொள்ளுங்கள். பின்னால் உதவும். டாட்டா, ரிலையன்ஸ் போன்ற பெரிய நிறுவனங்களும் உரிமம் வாங்கியுள்ளனர். இதோடு அந்த 122 தகுதி இல்லாத நிறுவனங்களையும் சேர்த்து கொள்ளுங்கள்.

நியாயக் கணக்கு:

இந்தியாவில் 60 கோடி மக்கள் கைபேசி சேவையை பயன்படுத்துவதாக உண்மை தகவல் உள்ளது. எல்லோருக்கும் தெரியும் என்று நினைக்கிறேன். ஒரு நபர் தனது கைபேசியை ஒரு நாளைக்கு சராசரியாக வெறும் 15 நிமிடங்கள் (LOCAL CALLS ONLY) பயன்படுத்துவதாக வைத்துக்கொள்வோம். ஒரு நிமிடத்திற்கு 40 பைசா கட்டணம்.

அப்போது 15x0.40 =6.0 ரூபாய் ஒரு கைபேசியின் மூலம் செலவாகிறது. 60 கோடி கைபேசிகள். 60x6.0 = 360 கோடிகள் ஒரு நாளைக்கு செலவாகிறது. ஒரு மாதத்திற்கு 30x360 = 10,800 கோடிகள். ஒரு வருடத்திற்கு 12x10,800 = 1,29,600 கோடிகள். 2008 இல் 2G ஏலம் விடப்பட்டது. இன்று வரை இரண்டு வருடங்கள் ஆகிறது. அப்போ து குறைந்தபட்ச வருமானம் இன்றுவரை2,59,200 கோடிகள். இது ஒரு நாளைக்கு வெறும் 15 நிமிடங்கள் கைபேசியை பயன்படுத்தினால் இரண்டு வருடத்திற்கு கிடைத்திருக்கும் வருமானம்.

இதோடு SMS, MMS, STD, ISD, சேவை கட்டணம், இணைப்பு கட்டணம்.......இன்னும் என்ன என்னவோ கட்டணங்கள் உள்ளது என்று சொல்கிறார்கள் மற்றும் 15 நிமிடத்திற்கு அதிகமாக பயன்படுத்துவோரின் செலவையும் சேர்த்தால் எத்தனை கோடி கோடிகள் வருமானமாக கிடைக்கும் என்பதை நீங்களே கணக்கிட்டு கொள்ளுங்கள். என்னால் கணக்கிடவே முடியவில்லை. என்னிடம் உள்ள கால்குலேட்டர் மற்றும் கணினி காண்பிப்பது "INFINITIVE". நான் தற்போது இந்தியாவில் இல்லை. இருந்திருந்தால் அனைத்தையும் அலசி ஆராய்ந்து இதைவிட இன்னும் துல்லியமாக நடந்த ஊழலின் அளவை குறிப்பிட்டு இருப்பேன். இந்த வருமானம் அனைத்தும் அரசுக்கு கிடைத்திருக்க வேண்டும். அது மக்களை சென்று அடைந்து இருக்கவேண்டும். கிடைத்ததா?

மக்களை சென்றடைந்ததா? நிச்சயம் இல்லை என்றுதான் ஒவ்வொரு மக்களும் கூறவேண்டும். அப்படி என்றால் இந்த மக்கள் பணம் சட்டத்திற்கு புறம்பாக யாரிடமோ சென்று அடைந்துள்ளது. இந்த ஊழல் பணம் அடுத்த சில ஆண்டுகளில் தனது சொந்தநாட்டு மக்களையே தாக்கப்போகிறது. விலைவாசி உயரும். பொருளாதாரம் நாசாகும். "Above middle Class" மக்கள் நடுத்தர மக்களாகவும், நடுத்தர மக்கள் ஏழைகளாகவும், ஏழை மக்கள் மேலும் பரம ஏழைகளாகவும் மாறுவார்கள்.

ஜனநாயகம் வேரோடு அழியும். மனிதாபிமானம், மனிதநேயம் மண்ணோடு மண்ணாகும். ரௌடிசம்,குற்றசம்பவங்கள் தலைவிரித்து ஆடும். கடந்த ஐந்தாண்டுகளாக ஆயுள் கைதியாக உள்ள நடுநிலை பத்திரிகைகள் இனி மரண தண்டனை கைதிகளாக மாற்றப்பட்டு தூக்கில் போடப்படும்.

துரோகம்-1: உரிமம் வாங்கிய அனைத்து நிறுவனங்களும் சுமார் 13000 கோடிக்கும் அதிகம் பொறுமானம் உள்ள(உதாரணம் S .TEL நிறுவனம்13000 கோடிக்கு வாங்க முன்வந்தது) அலைகற்றைகள் உரிமத்தை அடிமாட்டு விலைக்கு அதாவது 1200 , 1300 ,1650 கோடிகளுக்கு திட்டமிட்டு விற்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. அரசுக்கு சேரவேண்டிய, மக்களுக்கு சேர வேண்டிய வருவாய் சில சுய நலவாதிகளை சென்றடைந்துள்ளது.

துரோகம்-2: பெரும்பாலான நிறுவனங்கள் தங்கள் உரிமத்தின் பங்குகளை வெளி நாட்டு நிறுவனங்களுக்கு விற்று கொள்ளை லாபம் பார்த்துள்ளனர். இதனால் அரசுக்கு அதாவது பல கோடி மக்களுக்கு கிடைக்க வேண்டிய அரசின் வருவாய் சில சுய நல தனி மனிதர்களை சென்று அடைந்துள்ளது.

துரோகம்-3: தகுதி இல்லாமல் உரிமம் வாங்கிய 122 நிறுவங்களில் பெரும்பாலான நிறுவனங்கள் இன்னும் சேவையை தொடங்கவில்லை. இதில் "swan, Unitech" போன்ற லெட்டர் பேட் நிறுவனங்களும் அடங்கும். இந்த நிறுவனகள் ஏன் இன்னும் சேவையை தொடங்கவில்லை என்று உள்ளூர ஆராய்ந்தால் மிக தெளிவாக புரியும். பெரிய நிறுவனங்கள் போட்டி இல்லாமல் தொலைதொடர்பு துறையில் கொள்ளை லாபம் பார்க்க அதாவது கட்டணம் என்ற பெயரில் மக்களின் உழைப்பை சுரண்ட பெரும்பாலான தகுதி இல்லாத பினாமி லெட்டர் பேட் நிறுவனங்கள் இன்னும் சேவையை தொடங்கவில்லை.

இவைகள் சேவையை தொடங்கி இருந்தால் சந்தையில் போட்டி அதிகமாகி கைபேசியில் பேசும் கட்டணம் இப்போது இருப்பதை விட மேலும் குறைந்திருக்கும். ஒரு வேளை இதற்காகத்தான் திட்டமிட்டு "S.TEL போன்ற போட்டி நிறுவனங்களுக்கு உரிமம் வழங்கவில்லை என்ற சந்தேகம் தெளிவாக எழுகிறது.

துரோகம்-4: MTNL BSNL போன்ற அரசு நிறுவனங்களுக்கு அதிக அளவில் அலைகற்றைகளை ஒதுக்கி போதிய ஆப்பெரடர்களை நியமித்து இருந்தால் கைபேசியில் பேசும் கட்டணம் நிமிடத்திற்கு வெறும் ஒரு பைசாவுக்கு வந்திருக்கும். மக்கள் அரசினால் பயன் அடைந்து இருப்பார்கள்.
துரோகம்-5: தகுதி இல்லாமல் உரிமம் வாங்கிய லெட்டர் பேட் நிறுவனங்கள் தனது பங்குகளை பல வெளி நாட்டு நிறுவனங்களுக்கு விற்றுள்ளனர். அதில் பாகிஸ்தான் போன்ற நாடுகளும் அடங்கும். இந்தியாவின் தொலை தொடர்பு துறையை இந்த நாடுகளும் பயன்படுத்துகின்றனர். இது உள்நட்டு மக்களின் பாதுகாப்புக்கு மிக பெரிய அச்சுறுத்தல்.

துரோகம்-6: நீரா ராடியா தொலைபேசி உரையாடல்கள், CAG ,தொலைதொடர்பு சம்பந்தபட்ட, கைபற்றபட்ட ஆவணங்கள், சம்பந்தபட்ட பிரதமர் அலுவலக கடிதங்கள் புறகணிப்பு, சட்ட,நிதி துறை கடிதங்கள் புறகணிப்பு, TRAI பரிதுரைகள் புறகணிப்பு இப்படி கோடி கணக்கில் ஆதாரங்கள், சாட்சிகள். முதலில் வருபவருக்கே முன்னுரிமை என்று முந்தைய ஆட்சியாளர்கள் வகுத்த அடிப்படை கொள்கை கூட பின்பற்றப்படவில்லை. அதிலும் முறைகேடு.

துரோகம்-7: இவ்வளவு குற்றங்கள் செய்தும் சம்பந்தபட்ட குற்றவாளிகள் செய்த தவறை ஒப்பு கொள்ளாமல் நாங்கள் தவறு செய்யவில்லை என்று மக்களிடம் பொய் பிரச்சாரம் செய்வது மக்களுக்கு இழைக்கப்பட்ட ஏழாவது துரோகம். இதன் உச்சகட்டம்தான் 2G யில் ஊழலும் இல்லை நஷ்டமும் இல்லை என்று மத்திய அமைச்சரின் பத்திரிகை பேட்டி. இந்த உலகத்திலே தான் மட்டும்தான் புத்திசாலி வக்கீல் மற்ற அனைவரும் அடி முட்டாள்கள் என்ற ஆணவ நினைப்பு.
துரோகம்-8: நடந்த அனைத்து தேச துரோகங்களும், குற்றங்களும் பொருளாதார மேதை பிரதமருக்கு தெரிந்தே கண்முன்னே நடந்துள்ளது. இருந்தும் பிரதமர் வாய் மூடி மௌனியாக இருப்பது மக்களுக்கு இழைக்கபடும் மகா மகா துரோகம்.

துரோகம்-9: ஸ்பெக்ட்ரம் விவகாரத்தில் முறைகேடாக பெறபட்ட பணங்கள் பெரும்பாலானவை இந்தியாவில் புழக்கத்தில் இல்லாமல் அந்நிய நாடுகளில்,வங்கிகளில் முதலீடு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளதாக தகவல். இந்த பணம் அரசுக்கு வருவாயாக கிடைத்து இருந்தால் ஏராளமான அரசு கல்லூரிகள், பள்ளிகள், பாலங்கள், மருத்துவமனைகள், தொழிற்சாலைகள் என்று உருவாக்கி அனைவருக்கும் கல்வி,வேலைவாய்ப்பு, அடிப்படை வசதிகள் என்று ஏற்படுத்தி ஏழைகளே இல்லாத நாட்டை உருவாக்கி இருக்கலாம். இலவசங்கள் பெறாத மக்களை கண்டிருக்கலாம்.

துரோகம்-10: ஸ்பெக்ட்ரம் ஊழல் பணத்தை பயன்படுத்தி தலித் பற்றும் பிற இனத்தை சேர்ந்த ஏழை விவசாய மக்களிடம் மிரட்டி விளை நிலங்களை அடிமாட்டு விலைக்கு வாங்கப்பட்டதாக தகவல். இது மக்களுக்கு இழைக்கபட்ட துரோகம் பத்து. ஒரு முறைகேட்டை செய்து அதையே மூலதனமாக வைத்து இன்னொரு முறைகேடு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளது. ஊழல் செய்வதினால் மக்களுக்கு இழைக்கபடும் துன்பங்களுக்கு இதை விட சிறந்த உதாரணம் வேறென்ன வேண்டும். நண்டு கொழுத்தால் வலையில் தங்காது. இதுதான் ஊழலின் விளைவுகள். இவர்கள் ரத்தம் குடிக்கும் கொசுக்கள் மாதிரி. நம்மிடம் உள்ள ரத்தத்தை உறிஞ்சுவதோடு மட்டும் இல்லை அதோடு சேர்த்து நோய் கிருமிகளையும் நமது ரத்தத்தில் விட்டு செல்கின்றனர்.

இப்படி 2G ஊழலில் மக்களுக்கு இழைக்கபட்ட துரோகங்கள் எண்ணில் அடங்காதது. இந்த ஊழலின் தாக்கம் இதோடு நிற்காது. மக்களைத்தான் சுத்தி சுத்தி அடிக்கும். எப்படி? ஊழல் பணத்தை வைத்து ஏழைகளின் நிலங்கள் அடிமாட்டு விலைக்கு வாங்கப்பட்டு அதை பிளாட் போட்டு அதே மக்களிடம் அதிக விலை வைத்து விற்கப்படுகிறது.

ஒரு ஏக்கரை குறைந்த விலைக்கு விற்ற மக்கள் அந்த பணத்தை வைத்து அதே இடத்தில் அதாவது முந்தைய சொந்த இடத்தில ஒரு கிரௌண்ட் நிலம் கூட வாங்க முடியவில்லை. இதுதான் ஊழலின் விளைவு. இப்போது புரிந்து இருக்கும் ஏழைகள் எப்படி உருவாகிறார்கள் என்று. இது மட்டும் இல்லை ஊழல் பணத்தை வைத்து அனைத்து இடங்களையும் வளைத்து போட்டு ரியல் எஸ்டேட் நடத்தும் அனைத்து அரசியல்வாதிகளும் இப்படி ஊழல் பணத்தில்தான் செய்கின்றனர்.

அவர்கள் சொல்வதுதான் விலை. விலைவாசி உயர்வது இயற்கை அல்ல. அனைத்தும் மிக மிக செயற்கையே. இயற்கை என்று ஆளும் கட்சியினர் கூறுவது தவறு. உண்மையை மூடி மறைக்கும் செயல். இது ரியல் எஸ்டேட் மட்டும் இல்லை. அனைத்து பொருள்களுக்கும் பொருந்தும். குறைந்த விகிதத்தில் உள்ள பணக்காரர்கள் மேலும் பணக்காரர்கள் ஆவார்கள். அதிக விகித்தில் உள்ள நடுத்தர மக்கள், ஏழைகள் மேலும் ஏழைகளாக ஆவார்கள். இந்த ஏழை, பணக்காரன் இடை வெளியை குறைக்கத்தான் அரசாங்கம் ஒன்றை மக்கள் தேர்ந்தெடுக்கிறார்கள்.

இன்று ஆளும் வர்க்கத்தினரே அதற்கு முழு முதல் காரணமாக திகழ்கிறார்கள். சொல்லபோனால் அரசின் கடமைகளை அரசியல்வாதிகளும் மறந்துவிட்டனர். இவர்களை தேர்ந்தெடுக்கும் மக்களும் தங்கள் கடமைகளை மறந்து இலவசத்துக்கு பின் செல்கின்றனர். இலவசம் வாங்கும் மக்களே ஒன்றை நன்றாக தெரிந்து கொள்ளுங்கள்.

உங்கள் உழைப்பு என்னும் மூலதனத்தை மறந்து இலவசம் வாங்குவதால் எத்தனை தலைமுறைகள் கடந்தாலும் நீங்கள் ஏழைகளாகத்தான் இருக்க முடியும். உங்கள் வாழ்கை தரமும் உயரபோவதில்லை. இலவசம் கொடுக்க தேவையான வரிபணத்தை செலுத்தும் உழைக்கும் மக்களின் வாழ்கை தரமும் உயரபோவதில்லை. இது நிச்சயம். மாற்றம் ஒன்றே மாறாதது. இலவசம் மாறவில்லை என்றால் உங்கள் வாழ்கை தரமும் மாறபோவதில்லை.

எனது நோக்கமே இந்த 2G உலக மகா ஊழலால் மக்கள் எவ்வாறு வஞ்சிக்கபட்டார்கள் என்பதை ஒவ்வொரு இந்திய குடிமகனும் பத்திரிகை நிறுவனங்களில் பணிபுரியும் நண்பர்கள் உள்பட அனைவரும் தெரிந்து கொள்ளவேண்டும் என்பதுதான். எனவே தெரிந்துகொள்ளுங்கள், புரிந்துகொள்ளுங்கள். ஒவ்வொரு ஏழை மக்களுக்கும் தெரியபடுத்துங்கள். ரோட்டில் இறங்கிதான் போராடவேண்டும் என்று இல்லை.கொடி பிடிக்க அவசியமும் இல்லை. e -mail, FAX , Facebook , orkut என்று எவ்வளவோ தொழில் நுட்ப வசதி உள்ளது. தங்களுக்கு உகந்த ஏதேனும் ஒன்றை தேர்வு செய்து தங்களின் அன்றாட வேலைகள் பாதிக்காத வகையில் சுலபமாக இதை செய்யமுடியும். செய்வீர்கள் என்று நினைக்கிறேன். நன்றி.

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180892_492055707477_98924422477_6107872_1047248_a.jpg

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/krishna-s-gaffe-at-the-un-reads-out-portugal-minister-s-speech-85080

S M Krishna reads out Portugese ministers speech in UN Gen Assembly..

ayyo... ayyo... ivugathan srilankan tamils, india-pak, india- china problem ellathaiyum solve panna porangalam... thamasu, thamasu....

http://www.businessworld.in/bw/2011_02_11_Trimming_Exercise.html

As part of the government’s perform, achieve and trade (PAT) mechanism under the National Mission for Enhanced Energy Efficiency (NMEEE), companies in eight select industries need to get serious about saving energy beginning 1 April.

The 563 designated consumers are expected to save 10 million tonne of oil equivalent (mtoe) by 2014. To achieve this, the units would need to collectively invest Rs 30,000 crore. But the reduced usage would also help these companies cumulatively save Rs 30,000 crore annually after the first three years of the scheme. It is estimated that the reduced energy usage will result in saving of thousands of megawatts.


The eight industries — thermal power, iron and steel, cement, fertilisers, textiles, aluminium, pulp and paper, and chlor-alkali — account for about 55 per cent of the country’s total energy consumption. Since the bulk of the energy consumption is in thermal power plants, they are expected to save 6.9 mtoe of the targeted 10 mtoe. Tamil Nadu alone has 99 of the 563 units.

The PAT mechanism is one of the four initiatives under NMEEE. In the next step, it will enable designated consumers — who use less energy than the set norm — earn Energy Saving Certificates (ESCerts). These certificates can be bought by other designated consumers who find it difficult to comply.

One certificate will be valued at 1 tonne oil equivalent and will be traded on the energy exchange. “The exchange would create a platform and prices would be market driven,” says Ajay Mathur, director general, Bureau of Energy Efficiency. Trading should start in six months to a year from the 1 April start.

Same person receives 8 hall tickets of different persons who applied for!


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Y'Day Jaya news.

ADMK to Organise protest against land acquisition for SIPCOT Ind. Estate at Cheyyar.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/services/education/uk-honour-for-indian-origin-doctor/articleshow/7487816.cms

Indian origin doctor Srinivasan Madhusudan has been awarded the prestigious Goulstonian lectureship for 2011 by the Royal College of Physicians, London.

Dr Madhusudan, who gained his MBBS from the Tamil Nadu Dr MGR Medical University in 1994, is the Clinical Associate Professor in Medical Oncology at the School of Molecular Medical Sciences and a Consultant Medical Oncologist at Nottingham Cancer Centre .

The Goulstonian lecturership is one of the college's most prestigious lectureships and is the highest honour that can be awarded to a young fellow for academic excellence.

The Lecture dates back to 1635 and has considerable historical significance.

Dr Madhusudan will deliver the Goulstonian lecture at the Royal College of Physicians later this year on his translational research targeting DNA base excision repair, an exciting new approach for personalised cancer therapy.

Thatha is becoming like Egypt's Mubarak :D. Even in West Bengal commies have ruled for too long. WB definitely needs Egypt-style revolution. But the other option is Mamata Bannerjee. Not a good prospect.
Yeah, DMK/ADMK was good to TN only until MGR was alive; until that time, even MK wasn't heard of stooping down to these levels. In the last 25 years, things have taken a different turn and slowly and steadily let TN down - MK brought in his whole family and then there was this Amma acting weirdly on many occasions. This is why people are talking of change, especially after the 2G scam.

Yeah, DMK/ADMK was good to TN only until MGR was alive; until that time, even MK wasn't heard of stooping down to these levels. .

:rofl:

A G.K question for you

1) Who started personal attacks on Kamaraj by calling him "Andang kakkai"?
2) Who called Rajaji as "Kullukkka battar"?
3) Who called MGR as "Komaali"?
4) Who stooped down to such a low level on "Veeranam" scam that finally got him the most acclaimed title from Justice Sarkaria -> The scientific scambug
5) Who stared the culture to use marriage celebration stage of a family to bash a third person totally unrelated to that wedding in the name of "vazhthu"?

To quote Kamaraj, whether MGR, Mu.Ka, Jaya, Vaiko whoever it is, they are all "Ore kuttaikul ooriya mattaigal"

^^ Friend, I am telling you about the overall position of TN in terms of economic and social growth until the late 80s as compared to the rest of India (except MH) and not just pockets of political attacks on opposition party leaders.

In fact, Chennai lost to Blr in the IT revolution starting in the mid 90s. The rest is history. This was also the time when KA and AP grew leaps and bounds and TN was (and is still) playing catch-up. This was also the time when Amma took to power for the first time and angered people by stopping traffic whenever she was out; then the multitude of scams and nothing for the people. Then, MK grew his family into DMK and many long timers in DMK like Vaiko left the party. All of a sudden, Rajni was pulled in; Congress in TN split into two. :nuts:

I personally see that this time was the time when TN started declining at a time when it had all weapons in its armory to ride the economic liberalization in the early 90s due to its historical advantages to do so.

At the end of the day, what matters to the common man is jobs, welfare and prosperity. All these were there in TN and in fact more than the national average until the early 90s. Then, slowly things started tumbling down and all that is happening is a balancing act to get it restored.

By saying 'above national average', I am not saying that TN was like a Western country; I am saying that it is best that you could have got in India at that time. :)

^^My reply was specific to your comment mk never stooped down to low prior to MGR death

^^ To me, 2G scam and bringing all family members into the party and giving them all the positions and throwing aside long timers in the party is stooping down to the lowest levels.

Things like attacking opposition party leaders and calling them by various names, bringing in caste politics were common things in India and don't qualify for this term. :)

http://www.businessworld.in/bw/2011_02_11_Trimming_Exercise.html

As part of the government’s perform, achieve and trade (PAT) mechanism under the National Mission for Enhanced Energy Efficiency (NMEEE), companies in eight select industries need to get serious about saving energy beginning 1 April.

The 563 designated consumers are expected to save 10 million tonne of oil equivalent (mtoe) by 2014. To achieve this, the units would need to collectively invest Rs 30,000 crore. But the reduced usage would also help these companies cumulatively save Rs 30,000 crore annually after the first three years of the scheme. It is estimated that the reduced energy usage will result in saving of thousands of megawatts.


The eight industries — thermal power, iron and steel, cement, fertilisers, textiles, aluminium, pulp and paper, and chlor-alkali — account for about 55 per cent of the country’s total energy consumption. Since the bulk of the energy consumption is in thermal power plants, they are expected to save 6.9 mtoe of the targeted 10 mtoe. Tamil Nadu alone has 99 of the 563 units.

The PAT mechanism is one of the four initiatives under NMEEE. In the next step, it will enable designated consumers — who use less energy than the set norm — earn Energy Saving Certificates (ESCerts). These certificates can be bought by other designated consumers who find it difficult to comply.

One certificate will be valued at 1 tonne oil equivalent and will be traded on the energy exchange. “The exchange would create a platform and prices would be market driven,” says Ajay Mathur, director general, Bureau of Energy Efficiency. Trading should start in six months to a year from the 1 April start.

Carbon Trading & ESCs have lots of inherent flaws. These have been designed by those who want to escape from past misdeeds which affected Global ecology in a great manner and they want to make more money using these instruments.

India has to be careful before accepting these and have to check thorughly all the points.

Then let's go back to the old way. Let the representatives tour the entire country / state with a garland on its trunk. Whoever it chooses is CM / PM :)

The reps are allowed to use multiple elephants for various cabinets / MP seats

Well, I believe elephants have a much lesser tolerance level to folks who violate dharma. So instead of having MPs selected, you could have more elephant trampled deaths. (On a second note, I am tempted we should give your idea a sincere try for my reasons.. hehe)

contd from Chennai Elevated expressway thread

lol

you can't provide drinking water to 120 crore people in 20 yrs... yes it will take another 50 yrs to reach 70-80% population with drinking water

is it not happening?

so according to you india is not developing and is under developing? :nuts:

FYI, India got her independence on Aug 15th 1947. You have to count from that date and not the date we opened up our markets globally for these kind of very basic issues. That'll tell u that we didn't ask for basic facilities like sanitation and water in 20 years :)

Now can your government let us know why the hell it's taking 63+ years and beyond, with still over 50% with no clean water and sanitation access? You want me to be proud of the achievement they did in 63 years providing water to just 50% of the population? Don't you think that it's shame on ourselves to celebrate such half-baked works?

Now to your other points. Your argument for all the questions can be summed up to the following conclusions

1) Population
2) We are getting there
3) Usage of technology in future will make some things get better (like direct access to government without middlemen)

First of all let me tell u upfront that I beg to differ with your conclusions. Having said that for argument sake let's say that I hypothetically agree to your points. (If I don't then we won't get to the next stage of discussion, so mark this post and we'll visit later to these issues)

Assuming your answers are the way that we are supposed to "read" development in the nation, keeping that in mind please answer the following

Does any of the state / local or the central governments have any vision or action plan with an Estimated Target date for each of the basic issues that I listed? Well these are not my list, hope you would agree that they are lifeline of the country. Hope you would agree that if your country has to be perceived as developed nation those things have to be accomplished. Does any state, local administration or central government have any intention to provide them to us. If so show the vision in plan or paper. If it's in 5-year plans did it meet the date?

You folks in the forum see people like me as "complaining" if we report why certain things are not changing. Okay fair enough!! Now would it be wrong if people like me to see people like you and your government as complaining if you / they cite population as a reason for all their in-efficiency and slowness? Yes population exists and you have to develop beyond that. Show me the plan and vision from the government side for development taking that in to account? How am I supposed to believe that we are developing if your administration don't have a plan? What will I track against?

Now don't come back and say that we are developing a without plan. It's impossible

Does any of the state / local or the central governments have any vision or action plan with an Estimated Target date for each of the basic issues that I listed? Well these are not my list, hope you would agree that they are lifeline of the country. Hope you would agree that if your country has to be perceived as developed nation those things have to be accomplished. Does any state, local administration or central government have any intention to provide them to us. If so show the vision in plan or paper. If it's in 5-year plans did it meet the date?

You folks in the forum see people like me as "complaining" if we report why certain things are not changing. Okay fair enough!! Now would it be wrong if people like me to see people like you and your government as complaining if you / they cite population as a reason for all their in-efficiency and slowness? Yes population exists and you have to develop beyond that. Show me the plan and vision from the government side for development taking that in to account? How am I supposed to believe that we are developing if your administration don't have a plan? What will I track against?

Now don't come back and say that we are developing a without plan. It's impossible

every country works with an action plan... in our case we have a five year plan and under that different govts are given financial grants as per their requirements...and if you are asking for a long term plan then go to google and type "vision 2020" you will get detailed analysis of what was planned in 2003

different targets are set for different states and then we have an organization to review those targets and release the funds as per the progress- the organization which does this is PLANNING COMMISSION...

if you want detailed analysis of how much the target are reached and what are the different schemes and targets set... the please visit the planning commission website :):):) :cheers:

At a recent computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated, “If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon.”
In response to Bill’s comments, General Motors issued a press release stating: “If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics (and I just love this part, especially 7th point and 10’Th point):
1. For no reason whatsoever, your car would crash twice a day.
2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road, you would have to buy a new car.
3. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You would have to pull to the side of the road, close all of the windows, shut off the car, restart it, and reopen the windows before you could continue. For some reason you would simply accept this.
4. Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn wouldcause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you would have to reinstall the engine.
5. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was reliable, five times as fast and twice as easy to drive – but would run on only five percent of the roads.
6. The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would all be replaced by a single “This Car Has Performed an Illegal Operation” warning light.
7. The airbag system would ask “Are you sure?” before deploying.
8. Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.
9. Every time a new car was introduced car buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car.
10. You’d have to press the “Start” button to turn the engine off.”Never undervalue the manufacturing & automobile industries

^^ Planning commission was again established since we became republic. My point is we never got detail enough down the hierarchy to pass that vision to local administration level.

Planning commission alone, or a vision 2020 document at 30,000 ft level based on a book written by Abdul Kalam will not help me or anyone track the progress. What is the use of those documents if it's not followed up or realized?

In-fact such 30,000 ft level vision should have the next-steps documentation and discuss things a level below. Where is it and why are they not made transparent? Has the planning commission which has been around for decades helped to address the key issues? If it does, did it mark atleast one basic issue as complete so far. By complete I mean that project should be only in maintanance mode now. Sorry to say this, do we ever have a plan like "Every town planning authority should have a procedure to install street lights and water / sewage / drainage connection enabled within 2 months of layout approval" and have that ticked-off as something that's efficiently followed?

Now this article has appeared in many newspapers, and now Deccan Herald has lifted it also:

Chennai has emerged as India’s Detroit (http://www.deccanherald.com/content/137425/chennai-has-emerged-indias-detroit.html)

The most glaring part is Ford,Nissan,Hyundai, BMW and Ashok Leyland have all same amount: 4576 Crores!! :)
http://www.deccanherald.com/images/editor_images1/2011/02/13/auto.jpg

^^ :lol:

They got their math completely wrong!! It should be 4,5,6 and 7. So 4567 it is. :cheers:

Karunanidhi and his control over print media (http://savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=91:2010-09-10-07-31-10&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2).

^^ To me, 2G scam and bringing all family members into the party and giving them all the positions and throwing aside long timers in the party is stooping down to the lowest levels.

Things like attacking opposition party leaders and calling them by various names, bringing in caste politics were common things in India and don't qualify for this term. :)

Happened to read this (http://gnani.net.in/%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%93%E0%AE%AF%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%88/)article as we speak. Gnani has some more news for you. It's primarily about Raja arrest, also touches on MGR period a little :)

Also those who argue that country is fast developing should read about his questioning on ISRO-Devos deal. See how the powerful play with people's money. Doesn't matter if the "powerful" person is a political figure or ex-ISRO chief.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/court-blasts-tn-free-tv-sets-170

Chennai, Feb. 11: Pulling up the state government for not providing basic infrastructure to the subordinate judiciary when it is distributing lakhs of televisions for free, the Madras High Court on Friday directed it to provide facilities necessary.
After Chief Justice M.Y. Eqbal, Justice P. Jyothimani and Justice T.S. Sivagnanam made a surprise inspection of the Metropolitan Magistrate Courts in George Town Friday morning, at the instance of the Registrar General, and found glaring deficiencies in facilities available, the full bench took up the issue as a writ petition.
When it came up for hearing, the bench asked additional advocate general P. Wilson, “Within how many days will the government provide infrastructure facilities?”
“In September 2009, we requested the government to provide the facilities required in all subordinate courts. Why you are not providing these facilities?”

...

Happened to read this (http://gnani.net.in/%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%93%E0%AE%AF%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%88/)article as we speak. Gnani has some more news for you. It's primarily about Raja arrest, also touches on MGR period a little :)

Also those who argue that country is fast developing should read about his questioning on ISRO-Devos deal. See how the powerful play with people's money. Doesn't matter if the "powerful" person is a political figure or ex-ISRO chief.
For that matter, people still link Rajiv to Bofors. :)

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/winter-takes-bloom-roses-863

Feb. 10: Rose exports from Tamil Nadu, which generally peak during the Valentine month, have come down by 10-15 per cent this year thanks to an extended chilly winter season.
“Cooler night temperatures during December resulted in delayed blooming of flowers and affected the harvest,” said a senior official at Tanflora Infras-tructure Park, India’s largest co-operative rose farm in Hosur.
Tanflora has about 80 hectares under rose cultivation. Generally, rose flowers are picked around December 10 and despatched between Feb-ruary 1 and 3 to cater to the demand around Valentine’s Day in export markets.
“This year, rose despatches have begun only from February 8,” said the official. “This crucial time lag of one week has caused a 15 per cent drop in export volumes.”

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http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/tn-robot-vie-world-title-533

Feb. 9: Come July 2011 Turkey’s capital Istanbul will be bowled over by the “Man from Chennai”. We are talking about a robot that will demonstrate a slew of rescue techniques in all weather conditions, something people get to see only in action-packed Hollywood movies.
A humanoid robot weighing almost 150 kg is getting readied at the robotic laboratories of Bharath University, a private university in Chennai suburbs. More than 50 students drawn from various engineering branches of the university are working round-the-clock to develop the yet unnamed humanoid robot under the watchful eyes of Mr Jai Shankar Bharadwaj, an information technologist turned entrepreneur. The robot will “represent” India in the Robo Cup 2011 World Championship to be held in Istanbul in July.
Humanoids are robots that look like humans. They may not be a replica of a man or a woman but they will have hands, legs, and fingers and are capable of doing mechanical jobs with precision. “The first humanoid robot, OASIS, developed by the students of Bharath University bagged the best innovation award in the recently-held Spring Innovation competition held at Singapore,” Mr Jai Shankar told reporters here on Wednesday. He said OASIS, which weighs 4.3 kg and is 58 cm tall, can sing, dance, walk, sit, pick objects and perform a host of jobs.
“It was its capability to identify nearly 500 persons by name and photographs which stole the show,” said Mr Sridharan Venugopal, a Final Year engineering student who is one of the brains behind OASIS. According to Mr Venugopal, the robot has a high degree of freedom of movement. “It can turn its wrists and arms 360 degrees,” said Mr Venugopal.

...

For that matter, people still link Rajiv to Bofors. :)

U think it's unfair? :)

Seeman's speech- அனல் பறக்கும் சீமானின் நெல்லை தமிழ் ஈழ எழுச்சி பேச்சு

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U think it's unfair? :)
I am telling you that we can't stop calling names and pulling people into various controversies. That will go on as an endless debate. So, we have to focus at what's at hand. :)

Real estate hot spots -Chennai & tier II cities from Nanayam Vikatan:

Chennai

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Coimbatore:

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Madurai

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Trichy

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Salem

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Real estate hot spots -Chennai & tier II cities from Nanayam Vikatan:

Chennai

Flat

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Coimbatore:

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காக்கா சாவடி இல்லை. க க சாவடி. கந்தே கவுண்டன் சாவடி. :lol::lol:

^^ Planning commission was again established since we became republic. My point is we never got detail enough down the hierarchy to pass that vision to local administration level.

Planning commission alone, or a vision 2020 document at 30,000 ft level based on a book written by Abdul Kalam will not help me or anyone track the progress. What is the use of those documents if it's not followed up or realized?

In-fact such 30,000 ft level vision should have the next-steps documentation and discuss things a level below. Where is it and why are they not made transparent? Has the planning commission which has been around for decades helped to address the key issues? If it does, did it mark atleast one basic issue as complete so far. By complete I mean that project should be only in maintanance mode now. Sorry to say this, do we ever have a plan like "Every town planning authority should have a procedure to install street lights and water / sewage / drainage connection enabled within 2 months of layout approval" and have that ticked-off as something that's efficiently followed?

Based on my experience with the Govt Depts, I can authentically confirm that the Govt Dept spend far more time on collecting & forwarding the data on various schemes than really implementing them.

Ststistics is ok to some extent but does not really reflect the reality. Govt thrives on these data for brownie points.

Huge Data collected need more storage space and more people to sort, read and collate. IT can do wonders to cut all these unnecessary expenses.

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/farmers-advised-to-go-for-sowing-potato/125852/on

Farmers are recommended to go for sowing potato in neerbogum (in February under irrigation conditions), since the crop would get better prices and particularly that of Nilgiris district, would fetch a premium price for its better quality, according to Tamil Nadu Agricultural University (TNAU).

The Domestic Export and Marketing Intelligence Cell (DEMIC) in TNAU has analysed the price behaviour of potato that prevailed in Nilgiris Cooperative Marketing Society in nearby Mettupalayam for the last 20 years and found that farmers would get a price of Rs 14 to Rs 16 per kg of in May and June, when the neegbogum potato for harvesting, it said in a release here.

The society is one of the major trading centres in India, with 100 private commission mandies functioning in and around. The peak arrival of potato is during June to December and in Nilgiris neerbogum potato is sown uring February, it said.

In Tamil Nadu, potato is grown in the hilly regions of Dindigul, Nilgiris and Krishnagiri and Erode districts, with Dindigul and Nilgiris contributing 95 per cent.

In 2010-11, potato productioin in the state was expected to be 97,20 tonnes fror an area of 4,600 hectares, with an average production of 21.13 tonnes per hectare, it said.

The major problem faced by the Nilgiri farmers were the highest cultivation cost, labour shortage and higher arrivals from other states at competitive prices.

Traders are sourcing potato from Agra and Hasanpur in Uttar Pradesh, Indore in Madhya pradesh and Kolar in Karnataka for consumers of Tamil Nadu. They also export fresh potato to Sri Lanka, UAE, Singapore, Nepal and Kuwait, Demic said.

http://www.thehindu.com/business/article1458219.ece

India, with its status as a technology hub and an IT destination, is poised to play a significant role in revolutionising the technology for ODR (online dispute resolution), says Chittu Nagarajan, Head - Community Courts, eBay & PayPal (http://bit.ly/F4TChittu).

“Leveraging technology for grievance redressal, customer complaints, or dispute resolution is inevitable. The latest entrant to this is the Tamil Nadu Electricity Board (TNEB) which will soon introduce a unique 10-digit number to every consumer for redressal of grievances,” informs Chittu, during a recent interaction with Business Line. The key technologies which will play the fourth party here are software, algorithms, databases and mobile SMS functionality, and this manifests the power of the “O” in ODR, she adds.

^^

TNEB site e-payment is much user friendly than any other gvt online service. It is more efficient than IRCTC or BSNL online service provided by central gvt. :)

1. Registration process
2. To confirm the registration it displays your name when you provide the customer ID no. which we can usually find in our TNEB cards at home
3. Displays the bill even that was paid manually at counters
4. Display the detailed bill like units charged, units consumed, payment receipt no. etc.,
5. Once bill is generated a remainder via mail
6. Once bill is paid, thank you wishes and paid receipt via mail.

If TNEB can do this, I wonder why SETC/TNSTC still not opening the online reservation for public. :bash:

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Dosai machine

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Vada machine

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/most-indians-still-bank-with-psbs/750432/0

The credit-deposit (C-D) ratio of scheduled commercial banks (SCBs) stood at 73.6% as on September 24, 2010.

Among the states and Union Territories, the highest C-D ratio was observed in Chandigarh (124.3 %) followed by Tamil Nadu (113.6%) and Andhra Pradesh (110.5%).

வருங்காலத் தூண்கள், எதிர்கால இந்தியா என்றெல்லாம் வர்ணிக்கப்பட்டாலும், நம் குழந்தைகள் வாழ, ஒரு ஆரோக்கியமான சமூக சூழலை நாம் உருவாக்கிக் கொடுக்கவில்லை. குறிப்பாக பெண் குழந்தைகள் சந்திக்கும் பிரச்னைகளைப் பார்த்தால், ஆக., 15 அர்த்த ராத்திரியில் அறிவிக்கப்பட்ட சுதந்திரம் ஆண்களுக்கு மட்டும்தான் என்றே நம்ப வேண்டியிருக்கிறது.

உணவு, உடை, கல்வி அனைத்திலும் ஒடுக்கப்பட்ட சமூகமாகவே இருக்கும் பெண்கள் இந்த தலைமுறையில்தான் ஓரளவு கல்விக் கூடங்கள் பக்கம் காலடி எடுத்து வைக்க அனுமதிக்கப்படுகின்றனர். இதனால் மட்டுமே, கிடைத்தது பெண் கல்வி; ஒழிந்தது ஆணாதிக்கம் என்று சந்தோசப்படும் சூழல் வாய்க்கவில்லை என்பது வருத்தத்துக்குரிய உண்மை. பள்ளிகளில் குழந்தைகள் சமமாகப் பாவிக்கப்பட வேண்டும் என்பதற்காகவே சீருடை அணிவது நடைமுறையில் உள்ளது. ஆனால், சீருடையின் அமைப்பு பாதுகாப்பானதா என்பது விவாதித்துக்கு உள்ளாகி இருக்கிறது.அரசு பள்ளிகளில் சில ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்வரை, தாவணி சீருடையாக இருந்தது. பாரம்பரிய உடை என்பதைத் தாண்டி, பாதுகாப்பு, சவுகரியங்களோடு ஒப்பிடுகையில் மேம்பட்டு இருந்த சுடிதார் அந்த இடத்தைப் பிடித்துக் கொண்டது. தனியார் பள்ளிகள், தனித்தன்மை என்ற பெயரில் விதவிதமான சீருடைகளை நடைமுறைப்படுத்தின. "பளிச்'சிடும் தோற்றம், "கான்வென்ட்' தோரணை என பெற்றோர்களும் அந்த சீருடைகளுக்கு வரவேற்பளிக்கத்தான் செய்தனர். ஆனால், சமீபகாலத்திய குழந்தைகளுக்கு எதிரான பாலியல் குற்றங்கள், வேறு எங்கோ தப்பு நடக்கிறது என்ற கோணத்தில் சிந்திக்க வைத்திருக்கின்றன.

பாடப்புத்தகம் தவிர, மென்திறன், தொடர்பியல் திறன் என்று தனிமனித மேம்பாடு பற்றிச் சிந்திக்கும் பள்ளிகள், சீருடை விஷயத்தில் அதன் நிறத்தில் மட்டுமே கவனம் செலுத்துகின்றன. வளர்இளம்பருவ மாணவிகள் அணியும் சீருடை, நிச்சயம் பாதுகாப்பானதாக இல்லை; மற்றவர்களின் கவனத்தை உறுத்தும் வகையில் இருக்கிறது. கோவையில் பள்ளிச்சிறுமி ஒருத்தி, பாலியல் பலாத்காரத்துக்கு உட்படுத்தப்பட்டு; சிறுமியும், அவரது சகோதரனும் படுகொலை செய்யப்பட்டனர். இச்சம்பவத்துக்குப் பிறகு, தாமதமாக விழித்துக் கொண்ட பெற்றோரும், கல்வியாளர்களும், சீருடையின் அளவும், குழந்தைகளுக்கு எதிரான பாலியல் குற்றத்துக்கு, தூண்டுதலாக அமைகிறது என்ற வாதத்தை முன்வைக்கின்றனர். வளர்இளம் பருவத்தில் பெண் குழந்தைகளுக்கு ஏற்படும் உடல் ரீதியான மாற்றங்களுக்கு ஏற்றவாறு, அவர்களின் சீருடை இல்லை. முழங்கால் வரையிலும், சில சமயங்களில் முழங்காலுக்கு மேலேயும் என்ற அளவில்தான் பாவாடைகள் இருக்கின்றன.புத்தகச் சுமையை, முதுகில் ஏற்றிக் கொண்டு செல்லும் பெண் குழந்தைகளின் பாடு சொல்லவே வேண்டாம். புத்தகப்பையை இரு தோள்கள் வழியாகச் செல்லும் கச்சையின் உதவியோடு சுமக்கின்றனர்; பின்னோக்கி இழுக்கும்சுமை, அவர்களின் முன்புற உடையை உடலோடு ஒட்டி இருக்கும்படிச் செய்கிறது. பெண்குழந்தைகள் உடையைச் சரி செய்யும் மனோபாவத்தில் இருப்பதில்லை. மாறாக, வீட்டுப்பாடம், தேர்வு, பள்ளி செல்லும் அவசரம், வீடு திரும்பும் அவசரம் என்பதில்தான் கவனம் இருக்கும்.
முன்னங்காலுக்கு மேலேயும், முற்புறத்தில் பலர் கண்களை உறுத்தும் வகையிலும் அணியும் "பினோபார்', பாவாடை சட்டை போன்ற சீருடை வகைகளும் கண்களை உறுத்தும் வகையில் இருப்பதாகவும் குற்றச்சாட்டு எழுந்துள்ளது.

சில சமூகவிரோதச் செயல்களுக்கு, இவ்வகையிலான தூண்டுதல்களே காரணம் என்ற புகாரும் உள்ளது.சீருடை அவசியம் என்ற போதும், அவற்றின் அளவும், அமைப்பும் சரியாக இருக்கிறதா என்பதும் கவனத்தில் கொள்ளப்பட வேண்டும். பள்ளிச்சிறுமி படுகொலை செய்யப்பட்டபோது, சூட்டோடு சூடாக விவாதிக்கப்பட்ட சீருடை விஷயம், வழக்கம் போல் மறக்கப்பட்டு விட்டது.அடுத்த கல்வியாண்டு விரைவில் துவங்க உள்ள நிலையில், இதுகுறித்த முடிவு எட்டப்பட வேண்டும். சீருடை தொடர்பாக சிலரிடம் பேசினோம்.

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=187327

Innaiku nadakkara periya periya corruption la, particularly cultural corruption la intha madhiri evlavo pinvizhaivugal irukkaratha yaarum kandukkarathe illa. School ponnu thaane nu asaltaga irunthu vidugirom. But Matriculation, Convent, Anglo-Indian nu pala perula dress vishayathil evlo kodumaigal nadakkuthu. These are the fundamental reasons for rape and problems against women.

"பளிச்'சிடும் தோற்றம், "கான்வென்ட்' தோரணை என பெற்றோர்களும் அந்த சீருடைகளுக்கு வரவேற்பளிக்கத்தான் செய்தனர். ஆனால், சமீபகாலத்திய குழந்தைகளுக்கு எதிரான பாலியல் குற்றங்கள், வேறு எங்கோ தப்பு நடக்கிறது என்ற கோணத்தில் சிந்திக்க வைத்திருக்கின்றன.......

வளர்இளம்பருவ மாணவிகள் அணியும் சீருடை, நிச்சயம் பாதுகாப்பானதாக இல்லை; மற்றவர்களின் கவனத்தை உறுத்தும் வகையில் இருக்கிறது. .........

வளர்இளம் பருவத்தில் பெண் குழந்தைகளுக்கு ஏற்படும் உடல் ரீதியான மாற்றங்களுக்கு ஏற்றவாறு, அவர்களின் சீருடை இல்லை. முழங்கால் வரையிலும், சில சமயங்களில் முழங்காலுக்கு மேலேயும் என்ற அளவில்தான் பாவாடைகள் இருக்கின்றன.புத்தகச் சுமையை, முதுகில் ஏற்றிக் கொண்டு செல்லும் பெண் குழந்தைகளின் பாடு சொல்லவே வேண்டாம். புத்தகப்பையை இரு தோள்கள் வழியாகச் செல்லும் கச்சையின் உதவியோடு சுமக்கின்றனர்; பின்னோக்கி இழுக்கும்சுமை, அவர்களின் முன்புற உடையை உடலோடு ஒட்டி இருக்கும்படிச் செய்கிறது. பெண்குழந்தைகள் உடையைச் சரி செய்யும் மனோபாவத்தில் இருப்பதில்லை. மாறாக, வீட்டுப்பாடம், தேர்வு, பள்ளி செல்லும் அவசரம், வீடு திரும்பும் அவசரம் என்பதில்தான் கவனம் இருக்கும்.
முன்னங்காலுக்கு மேலேயும், முற்புறத்தில் பலர் கண்களை உறுத்தும் வகையிலும் அணியும் "பினோபார்', பாவாடை சட்டை போன்ற சீருடை வகைகளும் கண்களை உறுத்தும் வகையில் இருப்பதாகவும் குற்றச்சாட்டு எழுந்துள்ளது.

சில சமூகவிரோதச் செயல்களுக்கு, இவ்வகையிலான தூண்டுதல்களே காரணம் என்ற புகாரும் உள்ளது.

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=187327



Geez look at the way the article is written. The writer has written like a serial pervert. While the issue he tries to rise is important and legitimate, the way he handles the topic is disgusting. This could have been handled in a much better way. There are lot of factors which increases the sexual precociousness of young kids. For example, reality shows in popular electronic media and fashion shows competitions play a much more important role than school uniforms.

His contention that revealing cloths increases crime is totally unscientific and not backed by any evidence. Rape and violence against women are much more common in oppressed societies. The reason is simple - women are seen as objects of pleasure rather than humans with emotions in these societies.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/rice-bowl-begs-farm-hands-230

Feb. 15: Agricultural lands are fast becoming house site plots in the delta districts due to uncertainty over water release from Mettur dam, unremunerative income, shortage of agricultural workers and boom in land development.
Marginal and medium farmers owning up to five acres, who consider agriculture as a not-so-profitable venture, are now selling their agricultural lands to developers. This has resulted in a sudden boom in real estate in the delta region.
“As agriculture is not a profitable venture, the marginal and medium farmers are now selling their agricultural lands in Thanjavur, Tiruvarur and Nagapattinam districts. Thousands of acres of agricultural lands have so far been sold and converted into house site plots in the delta region,” says Swamimalai Sundara Vimalanathan.
According to him, implementation of the Mahatma Gandhi National Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme (MGNREGS) in the delta region has now deprived them of agricultural workers. “A woman worker who toils in the agriculture field from dawn to dusk earns only Rs 60, whereas, she is paid Rs 100 a day under the Mahatma Gandhi NREGS,” Mr Vimalanathan explained.

...

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article1462702.ece

With the inability to closely follow-up on women during their pregnancy period impairing its ability to bring down maternal mortality rate, the State government has rolled up its sleeves to address the problem.

The solution, here too, seems to lie in technology. The Directorate of Public Health has commissioned the use of the Pregnancy Infant COHORT Monitoring Evaluation (PICME) software for all staff members, primarily in all primary health centres (PHC), and for outreach workers.

The software is calculated to keep tabs on the mother throughout her ante-natal period and the child until the age of one year, R.T. Porkaipandian, Director of Public Health, has told The Hindu.

By ensuring that the mother is followed up right through the term, and the child for a year, there is a better guarantee for the health of both, he explains. “If we are able to make sure that the mother gets all the required check-ups and health care during the pregnancy period, safer deliveries and healthier children are likely to be the result in the long run.”

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http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article1462703.ece

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/1722011/slm1702pgefe02ad9.jpg

Two important points:

* PM requests media not to portrait India as a corrupt nation. (Sir, please make the nation corruption free - Engum correption, ethilum corruption)
* 'I am not as bad a criminal (to assume: who failed to perfom to his duty) as what the media portay me as' - PM (No comments)

I am not sure, if our Legandery Daily Thanthi reported exaggerated anything from the original statements the PM had made in the interview.

"DMK protests against the arrest of fishermen"

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/02/17/20110217a_001107006.jpg

15,000 DMK workers including kanimoli arrested during protest




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AIADMK workers throng the party office for seat in election

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2448/31340468.jpg

India should not take part in Srilankan air force celebrations-Vaiko

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5530/3155731.jpg

Fishermen-Strike


http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/02/17/20110217a_006107014.jpg

Geez look at the way the article is written. The writer has written like a serial pervert. While the issue he tries to rise is important and legitimate, the way he handles the topic is disgusting. This could have been handled in a much better way. There are lot of factors which increases the sexual precociousness of young kids. For example, reality shows in popular electronic media and fashion shows competitions play a much more important role than school uniforms.

His contention that revealing cloths increases crime is totally unscientific and not backed by any evidence. Rape and violence against women are much more common in oppressed societies. The reason is simple - women are seen as objects of pleasure rather than humans with emotions in these societies.

Totally agree with you in your assessment of the view point of the writer. While he is seemingly against the crime against girl children, he is accusing the children themselves (the way they dress, to be precise) for the crimes against them. Such baseless and idiotic reasons can only be offered in under-developed countries such as ours. The actual reason is the lawless nature of society and the delayed or non-existing judicial system in India. If only such perverts are dished out severe punishments quickly, they will not contemplate such acts.
There is no doubt that the writer of the article was one dumb idiot.

15,000 DMK workers including kanimoli arrested during protest




http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9806/33310656.jpg

Just Drama and nice photo OPP.!

Just Drama and nice photo OPP.!

ammani avnga panatheyellam eppavo swiss/cayman island

^^

makkal intha drama pona varsham thanae pathanga, athukula vera nadakam.:lol:

tamilaga meenavargal vishyamla eppadi ellam politics pannuranga...:bash:

http://savukku.net/images/stories/14_January_2011/tamilmakkalkural_blogspot_kanimozhi_rajapaksa.jpg

http://netindian.in/news/2011/02/17/00011040/japan-commits-oda-loans-rs-2257-crore-three-projects-india

The Tamil Nadu Biodiversity Conservation and Greening Project will get assistance worth Rs 486.47 crore.

It is designed to strengthen biodiversity conservation by improving ecosystem and the management capacity as well as undertaking tree planting outside the recorded forest areas, thereby contributing to environmental conservation and harmonized socio-economic development of Tamil Nadu.

Its very very complex.

First option:
Ask all Tamilians to leave SL and nuke the whole island.

Second option:
Ask the good for nothing coast guard to deploy all resources into palk strait/gulf of mannar preventing anyone from straying into SL territory/blocking SL vessels from entering Indian territory.

Third option:
Compulsory radio tags for all boats

Its very very complex.

First option:
Ask all Tamilians to leave SL and nuke the whole island.

Second option:
Ask the good for nothing coast guard to deploy all resources into palk strait/gulf of mannar preventing anyone from straying into SL territory/blocking SL vessels from entering Indian territory.

Third option:
Compulsory radio tags for all boats

easiest option that indian government may be contemplating is that donate all coastal part of tamilnadu to srilanka like kachadeevu. Then srilanka will solve this problem easily.

^^ This is nice! On one hand, we are donating to B'desh and on the other to SL. :D :D Appo naama Antarctica pogalama? In fact, for people complaining about Chn's weather, that will be the best option! :lol:

The B'desh situation was different. Read:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/asiaview/2011/02/enclaves_between_india_and_bangladesh

http://i.imgur.com/ZuToG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fFYB1.jpg

Much of the current debate on the National Food Security Bill has focused on the Public Distribution System. Crucial as this is, the Bill’s vision of food security aims to address wider nutritional concerns including maternal and child nutrition and not just through PDS but through existing programmes such as the Mid-Day Meal Scheme (MDMS) and Integrated Child Development Services (ICDS). Performance on these schemes thus merits urgent attention.

Let’s take ICDS first, or rather the lack of it. In an overall environment of poor quality data, ICDS stands out for being particularly bad. Reporting on ICDS budgets and expenditures is particularly haphazard and sporadic. Crucially, a significant portion of ICDS funds comes from state contributions that are difficult to ascertain. Even parliamentary questions could not unearth this data. Reports on nutritional status too have similar anomalies making it difficult to track. Undoubtedly, the first step to ensuring ICDS entitlements is to improve the quality of monitoring and information available. But we can glean some broad trends. Data reveals significant deficits in ICDS implementation—shocking for a scheme that has been around since 1975. The programme suffers from a severe human resource capacity gap which requires urgent attention if entitlements are to be provided. Anganwadi centres managed by an Anganwadi worker (AWW) and helper are the mainstay of the ICDS programme. While 84% of India has the required number (sanctioned by the Union government) of operational centres, they are not well staffed: 78% of these have AWWs in position. In states such as Uttarakhand, this goes down to 45%. Existing AWWs are also overworked. When measured on the basis of AWWs-to-enrolled children, on average one Anganwadi worker looks after 33 pre-school children in India. There are extreme variations. Himachal, for instance, has nine children per AWW and UP has 65 children per worker. Of course, in practice, AWWs are handling far fewer children as attendance is not very high; but even if half the enrolled children turn up, the AWW will have difficulties. The human resource deficit is compounded by the fact that AWWs are loaded with non-ICDS duties, and salary and other payments for running the centres are delayed. That ICDS is a disaster is a well-acknowledged truth. Even the Prime Minister has repeatedly talked of ICDS reforms. But precisely what these reforms are remains unclear, and if there is one thing this data shows, it is that nothing short of a radical overhaul is needed.

The MDMS programme has a relatively better track record. Budgetary allocations and expenditures are improving. In 2009-10, a mere 6% MDMS funds remained unspent compared with 20% in 2007-08. Better still, children are being fed. The latest Annual State of Education Report, or ASER, shows that 83% of the schools across the country were serving MDMS meals at the time of the survey. But corruption and quality are serious concerns particularly because of the lack of oversight and monitoring mechanisms. Every day, headlines point to stories of leakage and pilfering. The good news is some states are beginning to innovate with mechanisms to reduce corruption and these hold important lessons. Tamil Nadu (TN) has introduced various innovations to strengthen delivery, including setting monitoring targets for local officials and delivering foodgrains directly to schools. UP, too, seems to be taking steps towards introducing monitoring innovations including the use of mobile phone technologies to ensure that meals are being served in schools.

Monitoring apart, UP’s overall experience with implementing MDMS is interesting. Cooking costs (expenses of ingredients, fuel etc.) account for about 52% share of the MDMS. These costs are shared between the Central government and the states. UP, usually a laggard when it comes to development schemes, increased its cooking cost allocation from Rs3.63 per child per day in 2008-09 to Rs4.20 in 2009-10 to come in second after TN—a leader in implementing MDMS. Interestingly, it also spent 85% of this, and is reported to have provided meals to 83% of its targets up to December 2009—these are calculated on the basis of the number of meals actually served and the numbers planned at the start of the fiscal. Compare this with Bihar which met 59%, and Kerala which achieved 80% of their targets. The reasons for this improved performance and the ground level accuracy of these numbers need further investigation. But recent newspaper reports seem to indicate that the state is beginning to improve implementation by introducing innovative monitoring, including the use of mobile phone technologies.

But the greatest lesson that state experiences afford is that MDMS ought to have greater flexibility to ensure state-specific needs are accounted for and wastage reduced. TN regularly received funds for building kitchen sheds. But it doesn’t need these funds as over 96% (ASER figures) schools already have these sheds. So, this money, which could have been allocated to another state, or a different activity specific to the state, goes unspent. In 2008-09, a mere 13% of kitchen-shed funds were spent. Greater flexibility and greater monitoring with community involvement could go a long way towards improving the programme.

A final word on caste discrimination in MDMS. Proponents of the programme rightly argue that it can play a role in eroding caste discrimination as children of different backgrounds have to share a meal together. But a study by Thorat and Lee of discrimination faced by Dalits tells a depressing tale. About 52% of respondents in Rajasthan, 24% in AP and 36% in TN reported caste discrimination. About 48% reported opposition to Dalit cooks and 31% reported that Dalit children were made to sit apart from dominant caste children at meal times. In some cases, teachers showed favouritism by treating upper caste children preferentially and reserving smaller portions for Dalit children. Shocking for a country that claims to have arrived on the global stage.

http://www.livemint.com/2011/02/17223835/Child-nutrition-an-area-of-con.html

Its very very complex.

First option:
Ask all Tamilians to leave SL and nuke the whole island.

Second option:
Ask the good for nothing coast guard to deploy all resources into palk strait/gulf of mannar preventing anyone from straying into SL territory/blocking SL vessels from entering Indian territory.

Third option:
Compulsory radio tags for all boats


India has always had a very docile foreign policy. W.r.t. SriLanka, it has been pathetic. The best thing to do will be to integrate SL 's economy very closely to India, so that if they act foolishly they will backfire on themselves. Let us not wait for SAARC nonsense, just have a special deal with SL where there must be a win-win clause for both.

Secondly, Delhi has been notoriously ignorant and arrogant towards SL Tamils and their plight. As it is a national policy not just state issue, Delhi must acknowledge it and take to driver seat. (Right now they are still wondering whose car it is).

Thirdly, SL is trying to invite China to play safe. SL must be told not to play with fire and we must do everything to tone down the Chinese impact on SL. (Be it their investments or their war machinery being sold)

India has always had a very docile foreign policy. W.r.t. SriLanka, it has been pathetic. The best thing to do will be to integrate SL 's economy very closely to India, so that if they act foolishly they will backfire on themselves. Let us not wait for SAARC nonsense, just have a special deal with SL where there must be a win-win clause for both.

Secondly, Delhi has been notoriously ignorant and arrogant towards SL Tamils and their plight. As it is a national policy not just state issue, Delhi must acknowledge it and take to driver seat. (Right now they are still wondering whose car it is).

Thirdly, SL is trying to invite China to play safe. SL must be told not to play with fire and we must do everything to tone down the Chinese impact on SL. (Be it their investments or their war machinery being sold)


Hmm, pics of chineese troops making their camps in Katchatheevu and Indian fishers being attacked by Chinese miltrary have been reported several times in J.V (jnior vikatan) and other local newspapers with evidence. But still................

Atleast it is good that all sides are talking to each other. Hopefully in a short while they will find a permanent solution to this problem.

Kanimozhi: We will set up a meeting on the fishermen’s safety (http://www.tehelka.com/story_main48.asp?filename=Ws170211TAMIL_NADU.asp)

I understand that our fishermen are desperate and that fishermen from Jaffna, Sri Lanka, are complaining that Indians are going into Sri Lankan waters. The Tamil Nadu Government would set up a meeting between the fishermen from the two countries, and they can come to an agreement that our governments should stick with. This could go a long way in resolving the livelihood issue. But the violence must stop first, and for this we will take on the Indian and the Sri Lankan governments.