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Mr.Nellai
February 26th, 2011, 04:07 AM
Government Employees were Lathi charged during protest in front of secretariat

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Mr.Nellai
February 26th, 2011, 04:53 AM
Comedy about pollution in chennai

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ChennaiIndian
February 26th, 2011, 05:59 AM
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/secretariat-tops-list-power-bill-defaulters-615

Feb. 24: The Secretariat, the power centre of the state, is also the top defaulter on electricity bill payments in Chennai with dues to TANGEDCO (a subsidiary of TNEB) of Rs 6.49 lakh as of January 2011. It is closely followed by the office of the tahsildar, which has dues of Rs4,29 lakh, and the office of the deputy commissioner of commercial taxes with dues of Rs2.61 lakh, according to documents available with this newspaper.
“While most private consumers pay their electricity bills on time, government organisations, especially local bodies, default on payment of EB bills on a regular basis. In any given month, nine of the top 10 defaulters are government organisations,” a reliable source in TANGEDCO said. “But we cannot disconnect power supply to these organisations.”
Although TANGEDCO has an enviable record of having collected over 90 per cent of outstanding bill amounts every year, the most prominent defaulters in almost all of the seven regions of the board are either the district collector’s office, or the office of the commissioner of police, or a senior PWD engineer’s office.

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gtmashok
February 26th, 2011, 08:05 AM
I just want an unbiased and neutral opinion. What were Jayalalitha's achievements during her 2001-2006 regime? I know law and order was better, but how did TN do industry-wise? I know politics-wise both parties are culprits but I wanted to shift the focus on their development policies.

bonoslack7
February 26th, 2011, 08:20 AM
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?270628

Leo_r
February 26th, 2011, 09:19 AM
I just want an unbiased and neutral opinion. What were Jayalalitha's achievements during her 2001-2006 regime? I know law and order was better, but how did TN do industry-wise? I know politics-wise both parties are culprits but I wanted to shift the focus on their development policies.

Planning ,Development initiatives ,assets building. financial resourcing , a slight tilt towards urban centres ,DMK is the best.

Rural development, HDI improvement ,Police Raj ADMK is the best.

Both are welcome to learn from past mistakes and move ahead.


Kumki elephant gored to death....

Pollachi: A 27-year-old tamed/trained kumki elephant of the Forest Department at the Kozhikamudhi elephant camp in Top Slip of Animalai Tiger Reserve (ATR) was gored to death by two male elephants near Thammampathy and Saralapathy on Thursday late evening. It was involved in a number of rescue and herd-chasing operations. The Kozhikamudhi elephant camp has close to 20 tamed/trained kumki elephants.

The kumki elephant unchained itself and escaped into the wilderness on February 2. Officials said that the elephant was in “musth” and was in search of a female companion. The elephant that made its way to Thammampathy was monitored by the forest staff and tribal watchers of the department.

On Thursday evening, the 9-foot kumki was gored by two elephants possibly because “Karthik” entered their habitation leading to a conflict, officials said.

http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/25/stories/2011022564161000.htm

Leo_r
February 26th, 2011, 09:35 AM
Arul.. continuing from Metro rail thread...

Brazil Carnival

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They are too late and have something covered.. We have better images of voluptuous young women in their glory permanently captured in granite.

Old Habits

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Really don't know why the priests devised this practice... Any stories abound? Thousands pulling a oversized car with a small statue of God with a frenzy , looks out of date for a scientific society.

Subra
February 26th, 2011, 11:25 AM
hmm...so everyone here is going to vote for jayalolita?

Nope. There are people like me who still think DMK is far better with industrialization and growth. Anti-incubency always favors the opposition. People have limited memory and only the latest issues come to mind.:)
Any way it is democracy. The game is just starting.

Subra
February 26th, 2011, 11:26 AM
Planning ,Development initiatives ,assets building. financial resourcing , a slight tilt towards urban centres ,DMK is the best.

Rural development, HDI improvement ,Police Raj ADMK is the best.

Both are welcome to learn from past mistakes and move ahead.




I agree with you. I prefer a non-DMK, non-AIADMK govt though because we haven't given a chance to them in a long time.

kannan infratech
February 26th, 2011, 12:36 PM
^^ Interesting!

The womenfolk in the first family and extended family (except the one who got them all into trouble recently) are either well educated / from good & established business families / doing BUSINESS and making profits.

gvijayan
February 26th, 2011, 09:05 PM
SSC TN/Chennai Sub-forums

Friends,

Until a couple of months back, SSC used to be place where we were just getting infrastructure updates - and once in a while city-vs-city fights.

Lately the forum has turned out to have lots of friendly/healthy/funny discussion between members. It may be due to the fact that, there is no worthy updates in infrastrucure front across the state and also the upcoming state elections!

kongutamizhan
February 26th, 2011, 09:29 PM
They are too late and have something covered.. We have better images of voluptuous young women in their glory permanently captured in granite.


Ok since you opened this can of worm here, tell us what you know about the significance of those voluptuous young women that we captured in granite (or at-least the reason why you perceive it so) to take the discussion beyond this flaming 1-liner.

It's your prerogative. Like you always do in this forum, you can always choose to escape from any honest discussion if you want to.

Really don't know why the priests devised this practice... Any stories abound? Thousands pulling a oversized car with a small statue of God with a frenzy , looks out of date for a scientific society.

Answer my previous question first. If not for this statement of yours, I would have considered yours as genuine questions. I doubt your genuinity now

Mr.Nellai
February 26th, 2011, 09:37 PM
SSC TN/Chennai Sub-forums

Friends,

Until a couple of months back, SSC used to be place where we were just getting infrastructure updates - and once in a while city-vs-city fights.

Lately the forum has turned out to have lots of friendly/healthy/funny discussion between members. It may be due to the fact that, there is no worthy updates in infrastrucure front across the state and also the upcoming state elections!

:lol: Yah that's true. But nowadays each and every city gets equal opportunity(or according to its size) so the discussion never deviates into comparison mode. When u get what u deserve, then there is nothing to refute!

kongutamizhan
February 26th, 2011, 09:42 PM
:lol: Yah that's true. But nowadays each and every city gets equal opportunity(or according to its size) so the discussion never deviates into comparison mode. When u get what u deserve, then there is nothing to refute!

Huh?:nuts:

wlbkng
February 27th, 2011, 12:30 AM
Students studying in Classes 5 and below in minority schools across the state can no longer take the language subject for granted. An official release on Friday said that it will now be mandatory for these students to secure the minimim pass percentage for language.

In 2006, after the Tamil Nadu Learning Act was passed, the state had made it mandatory for children joining Class I in schools in the state to take up Tamil as the second language. Linguistic minority schools in the state teaching Urdu, Telugu, Malayalam and Kannada as their mother tongue protested pointing out that the new Act would result in children neglecting their mothertongue.

The state then made it a rule for children studying in linguistic minority schools to study their mothertongue as a third language but relaxed the minimum pass mark criteria to clear the subject. However, linguists felt that students would not take the subject seriously or learn their mothertongue with as much zeal as they did other subjects if a minimum pass percentage was not made mandatory for clearing the subject.

Taking this view into consideration, the state government said students have to clear the third language with a minimum pass percentage. The pass mark would be fixed at a later date, the release said.


Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Minimum-pass-percentage-in-mother-tongue-compulsory/articleshow/7583452.cms#ixzz1F6ukKXuW

Mr.Nellai
February 27th, 2011, 02:36 AM
Huh?:nuts:

குசும்பு ?

Mr.Nellai
February 27th, 2011, 02:38 AM
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Subra
February 27th, 2011, 03:57 AM
http://truthdive.com/2011/02/26/vijayakanth-abandons-people-and-god.html

Vijayakanth the leader of DMDK ( National Progressive Dravida Party ) has decided to face the Tamil Nadu Assembly elections 2011 in alliance with AIADMK by accepting 48 assembly seats offered by J.Jayalalithaa. Vijayakanth who had a declared policy of having alliance only with People and God has decided otherwise. Now he has surrendered on the feet of Amma who is the godmother to another vocal politician Vaiko.

DMDK was known for a mercurial rise in the tamil nadu politics by standing alone in the past elections and gaining around ten percent of votes. Many people and media were spreading a news that DMDK was an alternative to other two Dravidian parties. This concept has now taken a back seat and those who voted for Vijayakanth excluding the influential Telugu minority are wondering what to do this time.

But in Tamil nadu politics it is very difficult to win the major Dravidian Parties DMK and AIADMK in just a decade of time. DMDK is a phenomenon of informal split in the Dravidian vote bank. DMK has suffered and survived two formal splits in the birth of ADMK and MDMK. While the core DMK vote bank remained intact, birth of DMDK hijacked a part of vote banks of AIADMK and MDMK. Therefore it may be said that AIADMK has now regained its core strength. In fact this election is going to be a test between DMK and AIADMK with their original core electorate. During the MGR period under such a strait contest AIADMK always maintained a winning streak.

Now the conventional players the Congress party and Communist parties are remaining as stronger or weaker as were in the past. The association of Congress with DMK adds strength by percentage of votes but may not really work at ground level due to strain in their relation. Communist parties are useful to AIADMK only at selected constituencies. But arrival of (post MGR period) new players cannot be ignored.

Important players on AIADMK side are the Puthiya Thamizhagam of Dr Krishnasamy who is expected to bring the votes of Devendra Kula Velala community in southern Tamil nadu and TMMK who are to add Muslim votes.

Important players on DMK side are PMK which strengthens their alliance in North Vanniar belt and VCK the Dalit party also in North Tamil nadu.

With North and South somewhat balanced in both the opposing fronts, the west Kongu belt is crucial for either side. Traditionally considered AIADMK stronghold the emerging Kongu Munnetra Kazhagam of Gaundar community may spoil the sports.

For the DMK government, their welfare schemes such as subsidized rice, Free TVs, Gas stoves, SHGs are to bring more votes from rural side. But in the urban side the price rise, 2G scam and Power cut issues will be advantageous to AIADMK.

With all the calculations get balanced in this way the sway votes at the time of campaign should decide the winner as it happened in the last assembly elections. Whether AIADMK wins or not DMDK will improve its tally from its single seat. It is Jayalalithaa who accused Vijayakanth as a drunkard is going to help him rather than People or God. As for as Vijayakanth is concerned the credibility lost is the gain in politics, the strange phenomena in Indian caste ridden Democracy:)

Sampathkumar
February 27th, 2011, 04:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsIkVyF4AUs&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izqS93q_Z7o

Subra
February 27th, 2011, 12:58 PM
http://truthdive.com/2011/02/27/will-the-dmk-recapture-the-power.html

The speech of the Chief Minister comes closely on the heels of the bagging of Diamond States Awards by Tamil Nadu , the state being adjudged India’s best big state for overall development by IBN7 television channel in partnership with Outlook magazine.

The state received three other awards in the women empowerment, water and sanitation and citizen security and justice categories. The more interesting factor is that the two awards go to rural development and urban development departments held by deputy chief minister M.K. Stalin. These awards are announced based on a scientific survey handled by experts in this field at National level and are fool proof declaration of the ground reality in those categories.

The states of Kerala and Gujarat are in the second and third position respectively. This news has been underplayed by media who usually celebrate the performance oriented achievements of Narendra Modi and Nitish Kumar for obvious reasons

http://diamondstatesawards.com/
Check the above link for all award categories
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It is not just media. Even this forum didn't pay much attention to this achievement. This award comes from a Delhi based media which is generally biased towards Northern states. How come a state govt considered very inefficient by many forum members could get these awards?

Malaysia Mustafa
February 27th, 2011, 04:14 PM
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wlbkng
February 27th, 2011, 07:00 PM
http://truthdive.com/2011/02/27/will-the-dmk-recapture-the-power.html

The speech of the Chief Minister comes closely on the heels of the bagging of Diamond States Awards by Tamil Nadu , the state being adjudged India’s best big state for overall development by IBN7 television channel in partnership with Outlook magazine.

The state received three other awards in the women empowerment, water and sanitation and citizen security and justice categories. The more interesting factor is that the two awards go to rural development and urban development departments held by deputy chief minister M.K. Stalin. These awards are announced based on a scientific survey handled by experts in this field at National level and are fool proof declaration of the ground reality in those categories.

The states of Kerala and Gujarat are in the second and third position respectively. This news has been underplayed by media who usually celebrate the performance oriented achievements of Narendra Modi and Nitish Kumar for obvious reasons

http://diamondstatesawards.com/
Check the above link for all award categories
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It is not just media. Even this forum didn't pay much attention to this achievement. This award comes from a Delhi based media which is generally biased towards Northern states. How come a state govt considered very inefficient by many forum members could get these awards?

The reason is FEAR. We are silent performers dude. Not like Gujarat which goes on advertising for sappa projects and organising (literally 'meratifying') investors to invest in their states. We dont create rat races. The growth in TN is organic. When media takes TN & Chennai to the world sure everyone will know the real growth happening.

kongutamizhan
February 27th, 2011, 09:43 PM
Polls might be in April

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/02/27/tn-assembly-poll-date-may-be-announced-few-days-aid0091.html

kongutamizhan
February 27th, 2011, 09:45 PM
Spectrum sarees (http://savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=456:2011-02-25-07-40-03&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2). New design :)

kongutamizhan
February 27th, 2011, 09:53 PM
உங்கள் நெஞ்சுக்கு நீதியில் எழுதியிருக்கிறீர்கள் நினைவிருக்கிறதா இல்லையா என்று தெரியவில்லை. நான் நினைவு படுத்துகிறேன்.

“நண்பர்களே….இந்த சிம்மாசனத்தில் உள்ள மகிழ்ச்சியை விட, ஆயிரம் மடங்கு மகிழ்ச்சியை தரக்கூடியது சிறைக்கூடம். ஆனால் அடக்குமுறைகளும் சிறைச்சாலைகளும் நல்ல லட்சியங்களை அழித்து விட முடியாது.”

சிம்மாசனத்தை விட மகிழ்ச்சி தரக்கூடிய சிறைச்சாலையில் நான் இருக்கிறேன்…. என்னோடு மகிழ்ச்சியை பகிர்ந்து கொள்ள நீங்களும் வாருங்கள் தலைவரே…..

Raja's imaginative letter (http://savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=454:2011-02-25-03-06-35&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2)to MK.

bonoslack7
February 28th, 2011, 01:07 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Maha-residents-sitting-ducks-reveals-disease-risk-survey/articleshow/7590999.cms

According to the final results of "The Non Communicable Diseases Risk Factors Survey" — conducted jointly by Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and National Institute of Communicable Diseases (NICD) in seven states — while a Maharashtra resident spends 2.1 hours on work-related physical activity a day, an individual in MP spends 4.8 hours.

In comparison, people from Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh spend 3.8 hours, Uttarakhand (2.9 hours), Mizoram (2.7) and Kerala (2.6).

The study factored in the mean time spent in doing physical activity at work, travelling for work and recreation. Over 5,000 households were surveyed in the exercise that was carried out in 2008. MP also topped the list in time spent on recreational physical activities per day. However, Andhra residents don't seem to like too much physical activity while taking a break.

An MP resident spent 67.2 minutes a day on recreational physical activity. While, an average AP resident spent only 3.7 minutes. Kerala took to it for 15.4 minutes, Mizoram (12.7 minutes), Uttarakhand (14.5), Maharahstra (7.5) and Tamil Nadu (4.7).

ICMR director general Dr V M Katoch wrote, "Globally, non-communicable diseases (NCDs) are the major cause of morbidity and mortality. According to WHO, they account for almost 60% of deaths and 47% of the global burden of disease."

He explained, "In India, estimated deaths due to NCDs were double than those from communicable diseases. Envisaging the magnitude of the public health problem of chronic diseases, the government initiated the NCD risk factors survey (phase-I) in seven states."

Overall, the mean time spent (in MET minutes) on total physical activity per day was lowest in Maharashtra (924.1 MET minutes) and highest in MP (2106.3 MET minutes). In Tamil Nadu and Uttarakhand, it was 1308.5 MET minutes a day, AP (1209.6 MET minutes), Mizoram (1143.2 MET minutes) and Kerala 1032.8 (MET minutes). MET is the ratio of a person's working metabolic rate.

Malaysia Mustafa
February 28th, 2011, 05:24 AM
Dinamalar

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Sampathkumar
February 28th, 2011, 05:44 AM
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Sampathkumar
February 28th, 2011, 05:48 AM
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Dont vote for money , free food. Former Cheif Election Officer advices.

Arul Murugan
February 28th, 2011, 05:54 AM
:lol:Spectrum sarees (http://savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=456:2011-02-25-07-40-03&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2). New design :)

ha ha! gonna rock TN for coming diwali...

gtmashok
February 28th, 2011, 06:16 AM
The reason is FEAR. We are silent performers dude. Not like Gujarat which goes on advertising for sappa projects and organising (literally 'meratifying') investors to invest in their states. We dont create rat races. The growth in TN is organic. When media takes TN & Chennai to the world sure everyone will know the real growth happening.

I think media doesn't pay attention due to politics practiced by both parties in TN. So their impression on the politics of the state makes them think that state is not as developed. On a side note, the strange paradox about TN is despite its corrupt and extremely selfish politicians, it has strong education and health indicators, and industrial growth.

bonoslack7
February 28th, 2011, 06:41 AM
Its not that media doesn't give attention and all; media will give importance to the place that gives higher monetary returns, most of them in tn are interested in regional news only. I read in wsj/ft last month or so, they recognize only gujarat and tn as good states.

Arul Murugan
February 28th, 2011, 07:24 AM
Again GJ vs TN.... common growth engine of Tamilnadu is in Tamilnadu only not like GJ! its growth engine is in Mumbai. :lol:

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Unless they solve the power cut problem, we cannot accept that last 5yr gvt is efficient. The power crisis which TN never seen appeared from 2006 and not yet solved... 5yrs not enough?:bash:

TN might have got selected in the award before 2G scam was blown out of proportion :lol:

kongutamizhan
February 28th, 2011, 04:42 PM
X-posting from CBE thread

Collective effort needed to brand South Indian teas.

http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/28/stories/2011022857010900.htm

kongutamizhan
February 28th, 2011, 05:17 PM
P. Chidambaram's dialogue!! Can somebody decode what he is trying to say? :)

ஒரு இலை உதிர்ந்தால் இரு இலை துளிர்க்கும்: பட்டமரம்தான் அப்படியே இருக்கும். பச்சை மரத்தில் ஒரு இலை உதிர்ந்தால் இரு இலை துளிர்க்கும். காங்கிரஸ் பட்டமரம் கிடையாது, பச்சைமரம். அதனால் இதில் உதிரும் இலை குறித்து யாரும் கவலைப்பட வேண்டாம். ஒரு இலை உதிர்ந்தால்தான் இரு இலை துளிர்க்கும். எனவே காங்கிரஸ் கட்சிக்கான அடுத்த தலைமுறையை அடையாளம் காட்டத்தான் நாங்கள் இளைஞர் காங்கிரஸ், மாணவர் காங்கிரûஸ உருவாக்கி வைத்துள்ளோம்

kongutamizhan
February 28th, 2011, 06:08 PM
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kongutamizhan
February 28th, 2011, 06:35 PM
ivaru than (http://savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=461:2011-02-28-12-00-06&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2) DK-oda Minor Kujaa?

Thambi viveku, unakku savukku-la oru vela irukkupa :)

Leo_r
February 28th, 2011, 07:19 PM
IBN Diamond award was given to Kerala last year. There was so much of appreciation in the Press and in the Net. Even today if you search for this award you may get many Kerala results.

Is it a question of blacking out something good about your idealogical enemy? If so why? Is it 'fear' as wlbkng felt? If yes, what is there to be afraid of?

A question in'ask' , " Is hatred a natural response to fear or is it taught? " may give some answers,

Epics Ramayana and Mahabhartha thrive even today due to this "Hate" element. Elders want their children to imbibe this 'hate' factor as a survival technique.

A passage in MSN's Encarta narrates Indian social system like this..


The traditional caste system of India developed more than 3000 years ago when Aryan-speaking nomadic groups migrated from the north to India about 1500 bc. The Aryan priests, according to the ancient sacred literature of India, divided society into a basic caste system. Sometime between 200 bc and ad100, the Manu Smriti, or Law of Manu, was written. In it the Aryan priest-lawmakers created the four great hereditary divisions of society still surviving today, placing their own priestly class at the head of this caste system with the title of earthly gods, or Brahmans. Next in order of rank were the warriors, the Kshatriyas. Then came the Vaisyas, the farmers and merchants. The fourth of the original castes was the Sudras, the laborers, born to be servants to the other three castes, especially the Brahman. Far lower than the Sudras—in fact, entirely outside the social order and limited to doing the most menial and unappealing tasks—were those people of no caste, formerly known as Untouchables. (In the 1930s Indian nationalist leader Mohandas Gandhi applied the term Harijans, or 'children of God,' to this group.) The Untouchables were the Dravidians, the aboriginal inhabitants of India, to whose ranks from time to time were added the pariahs, or outcasts, people expelled for religious or social sins from the classes into which they had been born. Thus created by the priests, the caste system was made a part of Hindu religious law, rendered secure by the claim of divine revelation.


So Tamils are historical enemies of migrants. Why build them up?

kongutamizhan
February 28th, 2011, 07:46 PM
IBN Diamond award was given to Kerala last year. There was so much of appreciation in the Press and in the Net. Even today if you search for this award you may get many Kerala results.

Is it a question of blacking out something good about your idealogical enemy? If so why? Is it 'fear' as wlbkng felt? If yes, what is there to be afraid of?

A question in'ask' , " Is hatred a natural response to fear or is it taught? " may give some answers,

Epics Ramayana and Mahabhartha thrive even today due to this "Hate" element. Elders want their children to imbibe this 'hate' factor as a survival technique.

A passage in MSN's Encarta narrates Indian social system like this..



So Tamils are historical enemies of migrants. Why build them up?

oh yeah!! Kerala communist government? ideologically similar with Hinduism? wow.

Keep blabbering. Now you are opening yourself up to the forumers with your motives. keep up the good work.

Did you reach your orgasm faster today sweetheart? :lol:

kongutamizhan
February 28th, 2011, 08:27 PM
விடுதலைப்புலிகள் தலைவர் பிரபாகரனின் தாயார் பார்வதி அம்மாளின் இறுதிச்சடங்கில் கலந்துகொள்ளச் சென்ற விடுதலைச் சிறுத்தைகள் தலைவர் திருமாவளவன் கொழும்பு விமான நிலையத்தில் திருப்பி அனுப்பப் பட்ட செய்தி மட்டுமே நம் கவனத்துக்கு வருகிறது. அவரை இறுதிச்சடங்கில் பங்கேற்க அனுமதித்திருக்கவேண்டும். அவர் அதில் பங்கேற்பதால் யாருக்கும் எந்த தீமையும் ஏற்பட்டுவிடப் போவதில்லை. தடுத்தது ராஜபக்*ஷே அரசின் முட்டாள்தனம் என்பதுதான் என் கருத்து.

அதே சமயம் கொழும்புவுக்கு விமானம் ஏறும் முன்னால் சென்னையில் நடந்த ஒரு நிகழ்ச்சி நம் கவனத்துக்கு கொண்டு வரப்படுவதில்லை. திருமாவளவனின் பாஸ்போர்ட் தொடர்பான ஒரு பிரச்சினைகாக இலங்கை புறப்படுவதற்கு சில நேரங்கள் முன்னர் சாஸ்திரி பவன் பாஸ்போர்ட் அலுவலகத்துக்கு அவர் ஆதரவாளர்கள் புடை சூழ ஏராளமான கார்களில் சென்று இறங்கினார். அலுவலக நேரம் முடிந்துவிட்டது. ஆனால் அவருக்கு பாஸ்போர்ட் வழங்கப்பட்டது. இப்படிப்பட்ட சலுகை ஒரு சாதாரண மனிதனுக்கு ஒருபோதும் எந்த அரசு அலுவலகத்திலும் கிடைக்கவே கிடைக்காது. பத்துப் பதினைந்து கார்களில் கொடி பறக்க ஆதரவாளர்களின் முழக்கங்கள் ஒலிக்க வரும் செல்வாக்கு இருந்தால் மட்டுமே இத்தகைய விதி மீறல்கள் சாத்தியம். ஒரு திருமா அல்ல, ஒவ்வொரு அரசியல் பிரமுகரும் அப்படிப்பட்டவர்களாகவே இங்கே வார்க்கப்பட்டிருக்கிறார்கள்.

And at the end...

இதையெல்லாம் ஏன் எழுதுகிறீர்கள், வேண்டாமே. கருணாநிதி, ஜெயலலிதா பற்றி பிளந்து கட்டுங்க போதும். இதெல்லாம் எதுக்கு என்று சொல்கிற படித்த மேதாவிகளை சந்திக்கும்போது மிகுந்த அயர்வுதான் ஏற்படுகிறது.

நமக்குத் தலைமையேற்க காமராஜ்களும் கக்கன்களும் கிடைக்கமாட்டார்கள். காவலன் விஜய்தான் நம் தகுதிக்கேற்றத் தலைமை.

so true :)


For more read this week's O'pakkangal (http://gnani.net.in/%E0%AE%A8%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B1-%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%88-%E0%AE%8E%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81/)

Marathaman
February 28th, 2011, 08:28 PM
So Tamils are historical enemies of migrants. Why build them up?

The oldest inhabitants of India are infact the tribes of central and eastern India. Those who speak Munda languages. Also, social segregation existed prior to the so-called "Aryans". MSN Encarta is probably not the best place to learn about history.

bonoslack7
February 28th, 2011, 09:12 PM
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a2406c0a-434a-11e0-aef2-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1FHoI8aaC

At the Erode turmeric market in the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu, fortunes are being made.

The price of turmeric – a key spice in Indian cookery – recently soared to Rs17,000 ($375) per quintal (100 kilograms), fuelled by robust demand from the US.

For S. Mahavishnu, who cultivates turmeric on four of his 15 acres, the price rise brought windfall gains.

He sold 60 bags – 70kgs each – of turmeric for Rs900,000, earning about Rs700,000 in profit, which he plans to use to buy a tractor to save on the expense of renting one in the future.

In a nearby village, A. Ganesan, 40, is harvesting his own two acres of turmeric with eager anticipation.

Though prices have since softened somewhat to Rs13,000 per quintal, his yield has doubled after installing drip irrigation last year, producing more to sell at the still lucrative price.

“It’s a good chance for farmers to improve their lives,” he said. “Finally, we are getting a price that reflects the value of our effort.”

Farmers improving their lives – and prospering – are not uncommon in southern and western India, where a new generation of better-educated cultivators are taking an increasingly commercial approach to agriculture: switching to more diverse, high-value crops, such as fruits and spices; investing in new technology and adopting new farming methods; and strengthening direct links to markets.

“The ordinary peasant produces what is possible, but when they face the market, they face distress sales – they do not pay attention to consumer preferences or the season,” said E. Vadivel, a professor of at the Tamil Nadu Agriculture University (TNAU). “But farmers are getting organised now, and are more market-driven.”

In what London School of Economics researchers have called “a second Indian green revolution”, TNAU scientists have been working directly with farmers to help them adopt water-conserving, productivity-enhancing technology such as drip-irrigation, resulting in bumper harvests – and helping them to capitalise effectively on rising prices.

“Those who have a good crop are getting the benefit,” said Mr Mahavishnu. Farmers’ abilities to navigate markets are also changing, buoyed by increasing education levels and improved communications.

Tamil Nadu’s state government-run wholesale markets for cash crops – such as turmeric, sesame oil, coconut, groundnuts and cotton – already sell through a system of secret, written bids. These are all publicly opened, a method far more transparent and protective of growers’ interests than the typically opaque negotiations, or rigged open auctions, of state-run markets in the north.

At the Erode turmeric market, “there are no brokers or commission, and the farmer is allowed to cancel and withdraw the lot within 10 or 15 minutes of opening the bids,” said N. Mani, the market’s superintendent. “He can also store his turmeric here for up to two weeks without any cost.”

Tamil Nadu farmers growing high-value fruits such as mangos and bananas – which have fairly long post-harvest shelf lives – are also establishing collectives to by-pass traditional transporters and middle men, sending their crops directly to distant urban markets, including Pune and Mumbai.

Even farmers growing more perishable items such as vegetables are forging their own direct links to consumers, setting up their own growers’ markets to cut out middle men, and keep more of the benefits themselves. “Ultimately, the farmer must be a seller,” said Prof Vadivel.

Not all farmers are yet prospering. Jai Prakash Narain, 63, still grows paddy on his five acres, but its looking at alternative crops. As the moment, his only customers are rice mills, but they refuse to buy directly from farmers, forcing him to rely on brokers who take a hefty cut. “The intermediaries digest the money,” he said.

But S. Peryaiasamy, a 43-year-old farmer who grows sugar, bananas and turmeric on 6.5 acres in the remote village of Gounderpalayam, feels that rising prices, coupled with his improved yields after adopting drip irrigation, are helping his family progress.

In the past few years, he has purchased a washing machine and spice grinder for his wife, and a desk-top computer, with an internet connection, for his children. Still, he knows he could be doing better – and that the situation could change easily.

“Whatever the price in the market, we are only getting half,” said Mr Peryaiasamy. “Times have definitely improved. Costs have gone up, but the price has gone up also. But I cannot predict anything about the future.”

TShyam
February 28th, 2011, 10:50 PM
Lot of good news about TNAU these days. FT giving space for this news is gratifying. TNAU has also started a radio service. Hope farmers shift to more commercial crops and get the full benefit of increasing prices.

Mr.Nellai
March 1st, 2011, 03:34 AM
A Master Services Agreement which comprises of SSDG, State Portal and e-Forms was signed between the Government of Tamil Nadu and WIPRO in the presence of the Honble Minister for IT

http://www.tn.gov.in/seithi_veliyeedu/pr28Feb11/pr280211p.jpg


http://www.tn.gov.in/seithi_veliyeedu/pr28Feb11/pr280211o.jpg

karthikarthik
March 1st, 2011, 07:00 AM
Power crisis hits TN. Except Chennai, all the places in TN experiencing three hour power cut. Not sure why Chennai being exceptional and why Govt is treating other places with this partiality.

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=196375

மறுபடியும் துவங்கி விட்டது, மின் தடை பிரச்னை. கடந்த ஒரு வாரத்துக்கும் மேலாக, தமிழகத்தில், சென்னை தவிர்த்த பிற பகுதிகளில், வழக்கமான இரண்டு மணி நேர மின் தடையைத் தாண்டி, மூன்று அல்லது நான்கு மணி நேரம் வரை, மின்தடை ஏற்படுகிறது. ராமநாதபுரம், விருதுநகர், சிவகங்கை மாவட்டங்களில் உள்ள கிராமப்புறங்களில், ஒரு நாளைக்கு ஐந்து அல்லது ஆறு மணி நேரம் கூட, மின்சார வினியோகம் இருப்பதில்லை.

நீர் மின் உற்பத்தி மற்றும் காற்றாலை மின் உற்பத்தி குறைந்து விட்டதால், மின்சார வினியோகத்தைக் குறைக்க வேண்டியிருப்பதாகக் காரணம் கூறப்படுகிறது. இதை பொது மக்கள் ஏற்றுக் கொள்ளத் தயாராக இருந்தாலும், மின் தடையை அமல்படுத்துவதில் காட்டப்படும் பாரபட்சம், தலைநகர் தவிர்த்த தமிழக மக்களை, கடும் அதிருப்திக்கு உள்ளாக்கியுள்ளது.தமிழகத்தின் மொத்த மின் தேவையான, 11 ஆயிரம் மெகா வாட் மின்சாரத்தில், சென்னைக்கு, இரண்டாயிரம் மெகா வாட் மின்சாரம் தேவைப்படுவதாக, புள்ளி விவரம் தெரிவிக்கிறது. ஆனால், எவ்வளவு இக்கட்டான சூழ்நிலையிலும், சென்னை மண்டலத்துக்குரிய பகுதிகளில் மட்டும் மின்தடை அமல்படுத்தப்படுவதே இல்லை. அதற்குப் பதிலாக, தமிழகத்தின் பல பகுதிகளில் பல மணி நேரம் கூடுதலாக மின்சாரம் பறிக்கப்படுகிறது.தலைநகரம், பெருநகரம் என்பதால் பாலம், சாலைகள், சுரங்கப்பாதை உள்ளிட்ட பிற கட்டமைப்பு வசதிகளில், சென்னைக்கு அதிக ஒதுக்கீடு தருவதில் பொது மக்களுக்கு எந்த ஆட்சேபமும் இல்லை. பாதிப்பு என்று வரும்போது, தலைநகரத்திலுள்ளவர்களும் அதை பகிர்ந்து கொள்வதே நியாயமான விஷயம். மின் உற்பத்தி குறையும்போது, மின்தடையை சென்னையிலும் அமல்படுத்த வேண்டியது மின் வாரியத்தின் கடமை. ஆனால், இரண்டு ஆண்டுக்கு முன், மின் தட்டுப்பாடு உச்சத்துக்குச் சென்றபோதும், சென்னையில் மின்சாரம் தடைபடவே இல்லை; இப்போதும் அங்கு மின்தடை அறவே இல்லை.

சென்னையை விட, வெயில் கொளுத்தும் வேலூர், சேலம் போன்ற மாவட்டங்களில் மின்தடை ஏற்படுவதால் மக்கள் படும் அவதிகள் அதிகம். கோவை, திருப்பூர் போன்ற தொழில் மாவட்டங்களில் மின்தடையால் உற்பத்தியும் கடுமையாக பாதிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.மொத்தம் இரண்டு ஆயிரம் மெகா வாட் மின்சாரத்தைப் பயன்படுத்தும் சென்னையில், ஒரே ஒரு மணி நேரம் மின் தடையை ஏற்படுத்தினால், தமிழகத்தின் பிற பகுதிகள் முழுவதற்கும் இரண்டு மணி நேரத்துக்கு மின்தடையைக் குறைக்க முடியுமென்று அறுதியிட்டுச் சொல்கின்றனர் மின் வாரியப் பொறியாளர்கள். மின் உற்பத்திக்கேற்ப மாநிலம் முழுவதற்கும் வினியோகத்தைப் பகிர்ந்து கொடுப்பதே சிறந்தது என்பது இவர்களின் கருத்து.

ஆனால், இதை ஆட்சியாளர்களுக்குச் சொல்லும் தைரியம், அதிகாரிகளிடம் இல்லை; அப்படியே சொன்னாலும், சென்னை மக்களை விட்டுக் கொடுக்க ஆட்சியாளர்கள் தயாராக இருப்பார்களா என்பதும் கேள்வியே. இத்தனைக்கும், தமிழகத்தின் பிற பகுதிகளில் வசூலிக்கப்படும் அதே மின் கட்டணம் தான், சென்னை நகரிலும் வசூலிக்கப்படுகிறது.
முன்பாவது, மெட்ரோபாலிடன் என்பதைக் குறிப்பிட்டு, யூனிட்டுக்கு, 10 பைசா வீதம், சென்னையில் அதிக மின் கட்டணம் வசூலிக்கப்பட்டது. சென்னையில் உள்ள பல்வேறு அமைப்புகளும் எதிர்த்த காரணத்தால், அதுவும் விலக்கிக் கொள்ளப்பட்டது. கன்னியாகுமரி மாவட்டத்தின் கடைக்கோடி கிராமத்திற்கான மின் கட்டணம் தான், இப்போது சென்னைக்கும் வசூலிக்கப்படுகிறது.அப்படியிருக்கையில், சென்னைக்கு மட்டும் விதிவிலக்கு ஏன் என்பது தான், தமிழகத்தின் பிற பகுதி மக்களின் ஆதங்கம். தேர்தலைக் கருத்தில் கொண்டு, சென்னைக்கு மட்டும் மின் தடையில் விதிவிலக்குக் கொடுப்பது என்றால், மற்ற பகுதி மக்களின் ஆதரவு இந்த அரசுக்குத் தேவையில்லையா என்ற கேள்வியும் எழுகிறது. இதற்கு, தமிழக அரசு தான் தனது நடவடிக்கையின் மூலமாக பதில் சொல்ல வேண்டும்.

எப்படியும் தேர்தலின் போது, வெளி மாநிலத்திலிருந்து மின்சாரத்தை வாங்கியாவது மின்தடை இல்லாமல் செய்து விடலாமென அரசு திட்டமிட்டிருக்கும். அப்படிச் செய்தாலும் மின் தடையை மக்கள் மறந்து விடலாம்; ஆனால், தங்களுக்கு மட்டும் காட்டப்பட்ட ஓரவஞ்சனையை மக்கள் மறந்து விடுவார்களா என்பது தெரியவில்லை. இதற்கு தேர்தல் முடிவின் போது தான் விடை தெரியும்.

அவசியமா ஆடம்பரம்?மின் தடையில் சென்னைக்கு மட்டும் விதிவிலக்கு தருவதை, "கோயம்புத்தூர் கன்ஸ்யூமர் காஸ்' அமைப்பு கண்டித்திருப்பதுடன், மற்றொரு விஷயத்தையும், அரசுக்கு சுட்டிக் காட்டியுள்ளது.வீடுகளுக்கும், தொழிற்சாலைக்குமே மின்சாரம் பற்றாக்குறையாகவுள்ள நிலையில், தமிழகம் முழுவதும் குறிப்பாக, கோவை நகரில் விளம்பரப் பலகைகள் மற்றும் பயணிகள் நிழற்குடைகளில் ஆடம்பர விளக்குகளுக்கு ஏராளமான மின்சாரம் செலவிடப்படுகிறது.
மின் சிக்கனத்தை வலியுறுத்தும் மின்சார வாரியம், இதை ஏன் கட்டுப்படுத்துவதில்லை என்று கேட்டு, மின் வாரிய ஒழுங்கு முறைத் தலைவருக்கு இவ்வமைப்பின் செயலர் கதிர்மதியோன் கடிதம் எழுதியுள்ளார்.

wlbkng
March 1st, 2011, 12:39 PM
TN govt announces three per cent cut on ST on petrol

Chennai, Mar 1 (PTI) The DMK government in poll-bound Tamil Nadu today announced a three per cent cut in sales tax on petrol that would make it cheaper by Rs 1.38 a litre. Chief Minister M Karunanidhi made the announcement a day after the presentation of the Union budget which skirted the demand for reduction of customs duty and sales tax on fuel prices amidst soaring global crude rates. "The government has decided to levy only 27 per cent as against 30 per cent as sales tax on petrol. This will result in a loss of Rs 210 crore for the exchequer annually but will bring down the price of petrol by Rs 1.38 per litre," he said in a statement here. He said the tax cut would be with immediate effect and the new rate of 27 per cent was the lowest among southern states. Explaining the rationale behind the tax cut, that comes ahead of state Assembly election due in April-May, Karunanidhi said it was done to ensure that two-wheeler users did not feel the pinch of 'frequent' hike of fuel prices by oil companies. "Since global crude rates are on the upswing, oil companies also revise the prices accordingly which affect middle-classes to a large extent," and this was the reason the government slashed sales tax on fuel on different occasions, Karunanidhi said. He recalled that his government had slashed sales tax on diesel and petrol on previous occasions also when fuel prices were hiked.

http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/tn-govt-announces-three-per-cent-cut-on-st-on-petrol/593748.html

Malaysia Mustafa
March 1st, 2011, 05:40 PM
F910XuH3Ny8

This is just a part of the speech

Malaysia Mustafa
March 1st, 2011, 06:00 PM
தமிழக சட்டப்பேரவைக்கான தேர்தல் தேதி அறிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. இதன்படி தமிழகத்தில் ஏப்ரல் 13-ம் தேதி தமிழகத்தில் ஒரே கட்டமாக தேர்தல் நடைபெறுகிறது. வாக்கு எண்ணிக்கை மே 13-ம் தேதி நடைபெறும் என தேர்தல் ஆணையம் அறிவித்துள்ளது.

தேர்தல் தேதி அறிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ள நிலையில் தேர்தல்கால நடத்தை நெறிமுறைகள் அமலுக்கு வரும்.
தமிழக சட்டப்பேரவைக்கான தேர்தல் தேதி ::
1. தேர்தலுக்கான முறையான அறிவிப்பு தேதி: 19.3.2011 (சனிக்கிழமை)
2. வேட்புமனுத் தாக்கலுக்கு கடைசிநாள் : 26.3.2011 (சனிக்கிழமை)
3. வேட்புமனு பரிசீலனை : 28.3.2011 (Monday)
4. வேட்புமனு திரும்பப் பெற்றுக்கொள்ளக் கடைசி நாள் : 30.3.2011 (புதன்கிழமை)
5. தேர்தல் :: வாக்குப் பதிவு நாள் : 13.4.2011 (புதன்கிழமை)
6. வாக்குகள் எண்ணிக்கை : 13.5.2011 (வெள்ளிக்கிழமை)
7. தேர்தல் நடைமுறைகள் முடிக்க வேண்டிய நாள் : 16.5.2011 (திங்கள்கிழமை)
* 234 தொகுதிகளுக்கும் ஒரே நாளில் (ஒரே கட்டமாக) தேர்தல் நடைபெறுகிறது.

Source : Dinamani (http://dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Latest%20News&artid=384323&SectionID=164&MainSectionID=164&SEO=&Title=)

Malaysia Mustafa
March 1st, 2011, 06:05 PM
மத்திய பட்ஜெட்: ராமதாஸ் வரவேற்பு
மத்திய அரசின் பட்ஜெட்டுக்கு பாமக நிறுவனர் ராமதாஸ் வரவேற்பு தெரிவித்துள்ளார்.
இதுகுறித்து அவர் இன்று வெளியிட்டுள்ள அறிக்கையில் கூறியிருப்பதாவது:
நாடு முழுவதும் ஜாதிவாரியாக கணக்கெடுப்பு நடத்தப்படும் என்று மத்திய பட்ஜெட்டில் அறிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளதை பாமக சார்பில் வரவேற்கிறேன். தமிழகத்தில் நலிந்த பிரிவினருக்கு அரசின் சலுகைகள் மற்றும் வேலைவாய்ப்புகள் போதிய அளவில் கிடைக்க இந்த ஜாதிவாரிக் கணக்கெடுப்பு பெரிதும் பயனுள்ளதாக இருக்கும்.
நெசவாளர்கள், உழவர்கள் ஆகியோரின் மேம்பாட்டுக்காக பெருமளவு நிதி ஒதுக்கப்பட்டிருப்பது வரவேற்கத்தக்கது.
நடப்பு கல்வியாண்டில் இருந்து ஆதிதிராவிடர் மற்றும் பழங்குடியின மாணவர்களுக்கு புதிதாக கல்வி உதவித் தொகை வழங்கப்படும் என்ற அறிவிப்பு வரவேற்கத்தக்கது.
நலிந்த பிரிவினரின் முன்னேற்றை மையமாக கொண்டு பட்ஜெட்டை தயாரித்து அளித்துள்ள நிதியமைச்சர் பிரணாப் முகர்ஜி மற்றும் பிரதமர் மன்மோகன் சிங் ஆகியோர் பாராட்டுக்குரியவர்கள்.
இவ்வாறு ராமதாஸ் தனது அறிக்கையில் தெரிவித்துள்ளார்Source : Dinamani (http://dinamani.com/edition/Story.aspx?SectionName=Latest%20News&artid=384328&SectionID=164&MainSectionID=164&SEO=&Title=%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%20%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9C%E0%AF%86%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D:%20%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B8%E0%AF%8D%20%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%81)
வரவேற்றுதானே ஆகவேண்டும். கூட்டணி சேர்ந்த பிறகு வேற வழி!!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

krmpradeep
March 2nd, 2011, 02:04 AM
Do you know why there is a month gap for counting the votes? Is this normal or is this a new procedure?

தமிழக சட்டப்பேரவைக்கான தேர்தல் தேதி அறிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. இதன்படி தமிழகத்தில் ஏப்ரல் 13-ம் தேதி தமிழகத்தில் ஒரே கட்டமாக தேர்தல் நடைபெறுகிறது. வாக்கு எண்ணிக்கை மே 13-ம் தேதி நடைபெறும் என தேர்தல் ஆணையம் அறிவித்துள்ளது.

தேர்தல் தேதி அறிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ள நிலையில் தேர்தல்கால நடத்தை நெறிமுறைகள் அமலுக்கு வரும்.
தமிழக சட்டப்பேரவைக்கான தேர்தல் தேதி ::
1. தேர்தலுக்கான முறையான அறிவிப்பு தேதி: 19.3.2011 (சனிக்கிழமை)
2. வேட்புமனுத் தாக்கலுக்கு கடைசிநாள் : 26.3.2011 (சனிக்கிழமை)
3. வேட்புமனு பரிசீலனை : 28.3.2011 (Monday)
4. வேட்புமனு திரும்பப் பெற்றுக்கொள்ளக் கடைசி நாள் : 30.3.2011 (புதன்கிழமை)
5. தேர்தல் :: வாக்குப் பதிவு நாள் : 13.4.2011 (புதன்கிழமை)
6. வாக்குகள் எண்ணிக்கை : 13.5.2011 (வெள்ளிக்கிழமை)
7. தேர்தல் நடைமுறைகள் முடிக்க வேண்டிய நாள் : 16.5.2011 (திங்கள்கிழமை)
* 234 தொகுதிகளுக்கும் ஒரே நாளில் (ஒரே கட்டமாக) தேர்தல் நடைபெறுகிறது.

Source : Dinamani (http://dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Latest%20News&artid=384323&SectionID=164&MainSectionID=164&SEO=&Title=)

Anniyan
March 2nd, 2011, 02:31 AM
Do you know why there is a month gap for counting the votes? Is this normal or is this a new procedure?

I dont know the exact reason, but i think it gives plenty of time to manipulate the voting machines if thats possible.

Anniyan
March 2nd, 2011, 02:44 AM
F910XuH3Ny8

This is just a part of the speech

Why he is speaking like major sundarraian.

Mr.Nellai
March 2nd, 2011, 02:58 AM
http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/232011/02032011-cni-mn-03/24415828.JPG

Mr.Nellai
March 2nd, 2011, 03:03 AM
http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/232011/02032011-cni-mn-14/3920921.JPG

gvijayan
March 2nd, 2011, 03:17 AM
Distribution of Free Colour TV stopped in the middle as Election Date is announced, public stage road rocko

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/showxml.aspx?id=14251092&code=3476

Will this impact thaatha's vote bank? Or will these people be given more compensation than a normal citizen during the elections?

kongutamizhan
March 2nd, 2011, 04:48 AM
http://savukku.net/images/stories/5_January_2011/31233750.jpg

gtmashok
March 2nd, 2011, 07:36 AM
what does oozhal mean in english? I am referring to the cartoon posted by konguthamizhan. can someone translate the text also? thanks

Sorry, my tamil vocabulary is weak.

Sampathkumar
March 2nd, 2011, 08:22 AM
what does oozhal mean in english? I am referring to the cartoon posted by konguthamizhan. can someone translate the text also? thanks

Sorry, my tamil vocabulary is weak.

Corruption.

dhandapanik
March 2nd, 2011, 10:53 AM
what does oozhal mean in english? I am referring to the cartoon posted by konguthamizhan. can someone translate the text also? thanks

Sorry, my tamil vocabulary is weak.

Simple.. It is nothing but MK and his family..

bonoslack7
March 2nd, 2011, 11:19 AM
one doubt, do sun tv/kalaignar tv/vijay tv put tamil new year specials on april 14th?

Arul Murugan
March 2nd, 2011, 11:48 AM
why one both for counting the votes? Then whats the use of electronic voting machine!!

ruling parties can have sufficient time for tampering/screwing up the EVM.:lol:

They should have kept TN election along with the last phase of WB election, if they feel that TN's early result may affect WB voting patern.

Anniyan
March 2nd, 2011, 12:26 PM
one doubt, do sun tv/kalaignar tv/vijay tv put tamil new year specials on april 14th?
Yes in the name of chirhirai thiruvizha

Subra
March 2nd, 2011, 12:44 PM
Simple.. It is nothing but MK and his family..

yeah.. the opposition politicians are really saints:lol: TN will become an other Singapore when they get elected to power.

TShyam
March 2nd, 2011, 01:24 PM
why one both for counting the votes? Then whats the use of electronic voting machine!!

ruling parties can have sufficient time for tampering/screwing up the EVM.:lol:

They should have kept TN election along with the last phase of WB election, if they feel that TN's early result may affect WB voting patern.

Exactly.. Why the hell are they conducting elections on Apr 13th if they are planning to count only on may 13th? Ideally they should have held the elections only on May 10th. Not only in TN but Kerala and Pondy also has the same date. For Assam, its even worse. Two phase polls - on Apr 4 and 11. Ironically all these 5 states have a good chance of Congress capturing power either alone or as a junior alliance partner! Coincidence?? I am not a big believer in conspiracy theories but this is worrisome.

jaish
March 2nd, 2011, 01:39 PM
They have planned to conduct election early May would be peak summer. Voter turnout may be very less during the summer. May be this is the Primary reason for such a plan.

TShyam
March 2nd, 2011, 02:33 PM
Hmmm.. still waiting 1 month is too much. In WB they are starting the first phase only on 18th April, a full 2 weeks after Assam. They could have started on April 4th in WB and finished the whole process within April 25th and counting by April 28th. Then April 13th for TN and others wouldn't have sounded so weird.

Leo_r
March 2nd, 2011, 07:47 PM
Election Commission has to plan for deployment of Para Military force also. Anyway they could have had counting in Kerala,TN on 16th April. Bengalis are not going to be influenced by southern voting pattern. Stakes are different.

Anyway,for many here elections do not matter. Raman or Ravanan? And Modi too is not going to contest here!!!

A great 'bogey' excuse available for the loser!!! EVM

I am happy if developments have continuity.

Mr.Nellai
March 3rd, 2011, 03:27 AM
http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/03/03/20110303d_016107002.jpg

Mr.Nellai
March 3rd, 2011, 04:06 AM
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Mr.Nellai
March 3rd, 2011, 04:07 AM
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Mr.Nellai
March 3rd, 2011, 04:10 AM
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Mr.Nellai
March 3rd, 2011, 04:14 AM
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bonoslack7
March 3rd, 2011, 04:15 AM
http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/332011/03032011-cni-mn-03/22417250.JPG

awwww...how sweet, but his children standing on the side may be feeling sad that father is not giving cake to them first.

Mr.Nellai
March 3rd, 2011, 04:16 AM
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Mr.Nellai
March 3rd, 2011, 04:16 AM
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Mr.Nellai
March 3rd, 2011, 04:18 AM
awwww...how sweet, but his children standing on the side may be feeling sad that father is not giving cake to them first.

:lol: You can see his grandson- disgruntled

Mr.Nellai
March 3rd, 2011, 04:20 AM
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Mr.Nellai
March 3rd, 2011, 04:27 AM
Politicians from Nellai- Power house of DMK

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Subra
March 3rd, 2011, 04:54 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/coimbatore/KNMK-gets-seven-seats-from-DMK/articleshow/7616273.cms

COIMBATORE: Routed in the Kongu belt in the last two successive elections, the ruling DMK has now roped in the fledgling Kongunadu Munnetra Kazhagam (KNMK), to take on its main rival AIADMK in Coimbatore region. That's perhaps why the DMK has offered a generous seven assembly seats to KNMK.

For the beleaguered DMK, the two-year-old KNMK is a handy ally in the battle for western Tamil Nadu. The KNMK, which draws its vote base from the dominant Gounder community in Kongu region, had polled over 5 lakh votes in its electoral debut in the last Parliamentary election. The party comprising a curious combination of industrialists and farmers from western Tamil Nadu had not only raked in votes, but ensured the crushing defeat of the Congress-DMK alliance in the four Parliamentary constituencies of Coimbatore, Pollachi, Tirupur and Erode.

The KNMK was formed just ahead of 2009 Parliament election and had made neglect of the region by the two main political formations, the DMK and the AIADMK, of western Tamil Nadu, its main campaign theme. And, that seemed to strike a chord with voters.

The KNMK initially appeared to be tilting towards the AIADMK.

However, the AIADMK which is traditionally strong in Coimbatore region, found no use in aligning with the KNMK. Even when the KNMK leader Best Ramasamy was camping in Chennai to strike a deal with the DMK on Tuesday, the party general secretary E R Easwaran refused to rule out a tie-up with the AIADMK. The KNMK said it would align with the party that promised to lift the ban on toddy tapping and resolve pollution issues. Both issues remain unsolved, but the KNMK has walked over to the DMK side.

kongutamizhan
March 3rd, 2011, 05:21 AM
Sarkaria commission report missing (http://savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=467:2011-03-02-03-47-36&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2) from Connemara library. Thatha on a mission to erase anything nagative about him.

Press, public and opposition should try and make a huge issue out of it. This is a big deal!!!

dhandapanik
March 3rd, 2011, 05:33 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/coimbatore/KNMK-gets-seven-seats-from-DMK/articleshow/7616273.cms

COIMBATORE: Routed in the Kongu belt in the last two successive elections, the ruling DMK has now roped in the fledgling Kongunadu Munnetra Kazhagam (KNMK), to take on its main rival AIADMK in Coimbatore region. That's perhaps why the DMK has offered a generous seven assembly seats to KNMK.

For the beleaguered DMK, the two-year-old KNMK is a handy ally in the battle for western Tamil Nadu. The KNMK, which draws its vote base from the dominant Gounder community in Kongu region, had polled over 5 lakh votes in its electoral debut in the last Parliamentary election. The party comprising a curious combination of industrialists and farmers from western Tamil Nadu had not only raked in votes, but ensured the crushing defeat of the Congress-DMK alliance in the four Parliamentary constituencies of Coimbatore, Pollachi, Tirupur and Erode.

The KNMK was formed just ahead of 2009 Parliament election and had made neglect of the region by the two main political formations, the DMK and the AIADMK, of western Tamil Nadu, its main campaign theme. And, that seemed to strike a chord with voters.

The KNMK initially appeared to be tilting towards the AIADMK.

However, the AIADMK which is traditionally strong in Coimbatore region, found no use in aligning with the KNMK. Even when the KNMK leader Best Ramasamy was camping in Chennai to strike a deal with the DMK on Tuesday, the party general secretary E R Easwaran refused to rule out a tie-up with the AIADMK. The KNMK said it would align with the party that promised to lift the ban on toddy tapping and resolve pollution issues. Both issues remain unsolved, but the KNMK has walked over to the DMK side.

i never expected this to happen. KNMK :bash: thatha roping in all jathi katchi's again.

kongutamizhan
March 3rd, 2011, 05:40 AM
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bonoslack7
March 3rd, 2011, 12:12 PM
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_gujarat-sold-rs1450-crore-power-to-other-states-in-3-years_1514924

TShyam
March 3rd, 2011, 01:06 PM
^^

1. Its not surprising
2. The link doesn't work.

wlbkng
March 3rd, 2011, 11:25 PM
In a shocking incident, a 30-year-old man from north India was lynched to death by villagers at Vendipalayam near Erode on Thursday as they suspected him to be a thief.

Police have arrested a 50-year-old farmer and his son, in connection with the lynching. They had attacked the youth with wooden logs. Special police teams are searching for at least 10 others, who had participated in the lynching. The victim is yet to be identified.

"We have conducted a detailed enquiry and have arrested a father and son duo, who were involved in the attack. The others involved are absconding" said Modakkurichi police Inspector S Shanmuga Sundaram.

In the wee hours of Thursday, the victim had knocked on V Subramani's door. Peeping through the keyhole, the farmer saw a stranger. The youth spoke only Hindi, while Subramani knew only Tamil. He tried to communicate with the stranger, but in vain, so Subramani returned to his bedroom.

As the knocking continued the farmer suspected the youth to be a thief. He contacted his son S Thiagarajan, a financier, who lived next door. Together they tried to communicate with the youth but language barriers prevailed. Frustrated and angry, the duo beat up the youth who tried to flee the scene. However, the culprits went on a hot chase and further attacked the youth with wooden logs.

Hearing the commotion, villagers rushed to Subramani's house and joined in the attack. They then dumped the unconscious youth at a garbage yard nearby. The victim is said to have regained consciousness after an hour and staggered to a nearby grocery shop, pleading for water. However, within seconds he collapsed to his death.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Villagers-lynch-a-man-in-Erode/articleshow/7623683.cms#ixzz1FZszTFTf

Vandhaarai vaazhaveikkum thamizhagama idhu.. :ohno:
Whilst the whole article looks suspicious on the grounds on how that guy managed to come to erode and talk to a specific person that too in hindi (may be another ToI bad shit), this still is sad.. Justice should be done to that person and his family.

Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 12:41 AM
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chennaidesi
March 4th, 2011, 12:42 AM
Very sad. Bad behaviour by villagers and i am shocked.

Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 12:44 AM
Numbers to complain regarding Violations of Election rules

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Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 12:47 AM
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Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 12:51 AM
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Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 01:06 AM
Visually impaired girl from TN has passed IAS examination

:applause::applause::applause::bow::bow::bow::bow:

People like her inspire me a lot.

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Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 01:43 AM
An ode to Devi


Classical Carnatic music and the western classical piano married with enchanting results at Yaksha 2011.

Thousand and eight beautiful lamps lit up the backdrop. Classical pianist Anil Srinivasan and Carnatic vocalist Sikkil Gurucharan were awaited by the audience outside the Linga Bhairavi temple at the Isha Yoga Centre. The chill air was pregnant with the sweet smell of rajnigandha. The musicians ascended the stage and said they dedicated their music that evening to the Devi.

Sheer poetry

The first offering was Papanasam Sivan's famous composition in Navarasa Kaanada, Naan oru vilayaatu bommaya. Gurucharan, in his impeccable Tamil, echoed the poet's question – Why have you made me your play thing, Devi? Anil caressed the keys in accompaniment. Pillai Tamizh, a poet, inscribed his poems on Devi on the stone walls of a temple in Tirunelveli. One such poem was performed next. It was Nee varadhirundhaal. Poetry morphed into resonating sangathis as Gurucharan soulfully sang Kaanthimathi thaaye varuga. “Allied to music literature, we have inherited dance literature too. Padams are lyrical poems set for dance. In this poem that we are about to perform, Muthu Thaandavar, a prolific composer talks about a young maiden, who expectantly waits at a Chidambaram doorstep for her lover, Lord Shiva,” said Anil. Theruvil vaarano, based in Khamas, conveyed the yearning of the maiden, who asks, “Won't Lord Nataraja come dancing down my street?”

Twinkling compositions

Before moving on to the next song, Anil narrated a small story for the children, present in the gathering. It was about 12 year-old Mozart, who was given a test. He was asked to improvise on

‘Twinkle Twinkle Little Star'. Little Mozart composed 12 variations, within three hours, with only a quill and a paper! Anil said, “There are variations or sangathis in a song that can express a simple thought in various ways. It is not meant to merely state the genius of the composer or the composition.” True to what Anil said, Gurucharan's diverse sangathis in all the songs brought poetry to life.

Ulundurpettai Shanmugasundaram's Chinnanchiru pen pole set in Sindubhairavi was next. Devi was worshipped a young goddess, who played “aeroplane paandi” (hopscotch) on the sand. The following composition was dedicated to the ambience at Velliangiri hills. Ekkalathilum in Poorvi Kalyani divulged the poet's wish to stay as close to Devi as possible, forever in time.

Anil's prelude and Gurucharan's alapanai were hypnotising, to say the least. The tani avartanam by the Kanjira artist was equally wonderful. There were lengthy, introspective pauses in the vocalist's phrases, as well as the pianist's notes and moments of meditative silence.


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Mystic and philosopher Annamacharya's Ksheerabdhi kanyakaku (in Kurinji ragam) was rendered in praise of Lakshmi. The composition describes the beauty in performing neeraanjanam (bathing the goddess with water and turmeric) for Mahalakshmi. This tender adulation was followed by Sadashiva Brahmendra's poignant Sarvam brahmamayam in Madhuvanti .

The audience sat transfixed as the boundaries of Madhuvanti were stretched and Anil's interludes deepened the mood of contemplation.

The thillana set in Maand, the last song for the evening, left one yearning for more. The evening was a poetic love affair between Western notes and classical kritis.

The event was part of Yaksha 2011 organised by Isha Foundation recently.

Source (http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/metroplus/article1506109.ece)

Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 02:52 AM
"irulukkul olinthirukkum irul" book released


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Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 02:56 AM
Chennai High court refused to give bail to Sri Lankan minister

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Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 03:01 AM
Derision of veeramani's statements

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Arul Murugan
March 4th, 2011, 09:22 AM
In Tamil Nadu, however, the situation does not look good for the Congress-DMK combine.

In a House of 234, the Congress-DMK-Pattali Makkal Katchi are pegged to get just 77 seats while Jayalalitha's AIADMK is set to increase their tally and get 152 seats, marking her return as the next chief minister. The Left will get 4 and the BJP 1 seat, according to the survey.

All India Congress Committee General Secretary-in-charge of Tamil Nadu, Ghulam Nabi Azad who was in Chennai on Wednesday night and held meetings with DMK leaders came back on Thursday morning as the DMK was offering only 58 seats and the Congress was insisting on at least 62.

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-congress-survey-win-in-wb-kerala-loss-in-tn-assam/20110303.htm

spidermanusa
March 4th, 2011, 10:31 AM
Very sad. Bad behaviour by villagers and i am shocked.

I'm not condoning the murder but you can't question the behavior. If someone knocks on my door at midnight I would be suspicious too. The beating got a little out of hand. Why the hell can't the North ppl learn some rudimentary Tamil to get by (when they are in TN)?

slakhs
March 4th, 2011, 11:04 AM
^^So you will accept if the situation is reversed. You know, lot of unskilled Tamils migrate to other places in India and abroad and for some reason they had to knock the doors of someone, they can be lynched?

spidermanusa
March 4th, 2011, 12:13 PM
^^So you will accept if the situation is reversed. You know, lot of unskilled Tamils migrate to other places in India and abroad and for some reason they had to knock the doors of someone, they can be lynched?

Like I said I don't condone the murder but that guy paid for his ignorance of the local language with his life. If a Tamil guy goes to other places in India, he has to learn the local language for his well being. Simple as that.

TShyam
March 4th, 2011, 12:50 PM
The article obviously hides something. There has to be some intermediary incident which should have caused a friction. You just dont start beating persons with wooden logs for no reason. Not knowing the language seems to be TOI's sales pitch. Convenient to blame but doesn't carry any logic.

slakhs
March 4th, 2011, 01:06 PM
^^If you get involved in an accident out of state and even if you are not at fault, you will know how quickly a mob can gather even in the middle of thar desert at midnight and beat the **** out of someone for no (valid) reason. Indian mobs are just waiting to vent their frustrations on somebody for a tiny spark of a reason.

bonoslack7
March 4th, 2011, 01:24 PM
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/tamils-gain-refugee-status-in-indonesia-20110304-1bibq.html

TShyam
March 4th, 2011, 01:32 PM
^^If you get involved in an accident out of state and even if you are not at fault, you will know how quickly a mob can gather even in the middle of thar desert at midnight and beat the **** out of someone for no (valid) reason. Indian mobs are just waiting to vent their frustrations on somebody for a tiny spark of a reason.

True but we should not pass judgment on the farmer and villagers with limited data. Indian media has this habit of acting like kangaroo courts and passing quick judgments and verdicts. That is again at play.

Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 05:05 PM
CBI prepares a list of ineligible companies with regard to the spectrum issue

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Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 05:07 PM
Breaking coconuts in head - a bizarre ritual in South TN

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Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 05:09 PM
DMK relents


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Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 05:14 PM
As per election rule, digital boards displaying DMK govt achievements are being removed

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Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 05:17 PM
i never expected this to happen. KNMK :bash: thatha roping in all jathi katchi's again.


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Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 05:20 PM
Supreme court condemns Central Government regarding black money issue

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Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 05:24 PM
ADMK complain PM regarding Jayalalitha's voice (phone) taping issue

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krishnaswamy
March 4th, 2011, 07:11 PM
Finally, Vijayakanth made alliance with "Goddess" JJ :lol:
Thathavukku "aappu" confirmed?:banana:
When we think about Congress in TN,they are forced to take up either 60 or 62(from 98) :lol:

Anniyan
March 4th, 2011, 07:14 PM
Finally, Vijayakanth made alliance with "Goddess" JJ :lol:
Thathavukku "aappu" confirmed?:banana:
When we think about Congress in TN,they are forced to take up either 60 or 62(from 98) :lol:

incase if he dies before the election? Wont this alliance arithmetic go wrong?

Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 07:26 PM
Jayalalithaa gives Vijayakanth's DMDK 41 seats


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Putting at rest all speculation, DMDK on Friday evening signed a poll pact with the main opposition party AIADMK, led by Jayalalithaa, to contest the Tamil Nadu assembly elections scheduled for April 13.

DMDK founder-president Vijayakanth along with party presidium chairman Panruti Ramachandran and Youth wing secretary Sudheesh called on Jayalalithaa at her Poes Garden residence in Chennai, to cement the pact under which the party had been allotted 41 seats, a joint statement released to the media said.

On February 24, actor-politician Vijayakanth's DMDK had launched formal poll parleys with AIADMK to "oust DMK from power". Though backdoor negotiations were going on for some time, it was the first time that leaders of both parties had met to initiate poll talks.

Though Vijayakanth has been consistently holding that his alliance was only with the people and no other political party, the DMDK, however, opted for tie up under pressure from party cadres.

Founded in 2005 by Vijayakanth, DMDK made its debut in 2006 Assembly elections, with Vijayakanth winning from the Viruddhachalam seat, even as his party polled 8 per cent popular votes.

However, the party's performance in the subsequent by-polls and 2009 Lok Sabha polls were sub-par, even as it played spoilsport to AIADMK's prospects by splitting the votes.

Source (http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/jayalalithaa-gives-vijayakanth-s-dmdk-41-seats-89492)

spidermanusa
March 4th, 2011, 07:36 PM
i never expected this to happen. KNMK :bash: thatha roping in all jathi katchi's again.

I would say more than 50% of the parties are jathi katchi's one way or the other. Look at the party functionaries to get a good assessment.

DMDK - Telugu Naykar and Ottar
Karthik Party - Thevar
Sarathkumar Party - Nadaar
Moovendar Munnani Kazhagam - Thevar
Muslim League (all of them) - Muslim
Manithaneya Makkal Katchi - Muslim
Indian National League - Muslim
Puthiya Thamizhagam - Dalit (There are sub castes here too)
Viduthalai Siruthaikal - Dalit (again sub castes - mostly north TN)

and so on. By the way most of the above make up ADMK's alliance. PMK and KNMK and the Dalit parties openly ask for caste votes. Otherwise nothing to seperate others from them.

Arul Murugan
March 4th, 2011, 08:09 PM
^^

Add few more

ADMK-Thevar/Mukulathoor party
BJP-Brahmin party
INC - any human there?:lol:

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KNMK is the big caste party like PMK, hope like last time Western TN people gives big zero for KNMK and INC. Thatha will give more constituency for INC/KNMK in Kongu belt so that DMK loss will be minimal"

Arasu
March 4th, 2011, 08:51 PM
முள்ளை முள்ளால் தான் எடுக்க முடியும். அதைப் போல ஜாதியை ஜாதியால் தான் நீக்க முடியும் என்பது நமது அரசியல்வாதிகளின் முடிவு போல தெரிகிறது. :):bash:

I would say more than 50% of the parties are jathi katchi's one way or the other. Look at the party functionaries to get a good assessment.

DMDK - Telugu Naykar and Ottar
Karthik Party - Thevar
Sarathkumar Party - Nadaar
Moovendar Munnani Kazhagam - Thevar
Muslim League (all of them) - Muslim
Manithaneya Makkal Katchi - Muslim
Indian National League - Muslim
Puthiya Thamizhagam - Dalit (There are sub castes here too)
Viduthalai Siruthaikal - Dalit (again sub castes - mostly north TN)

and so on. By the way most of the above make up ADMK's alliance. PMK and KNMK and the Dalit parties openly ask for caste votes. Otherwise nothing to seperate others from them.

^^

Add few more

ADMK-Thevar/Mukulathoor party
BJP-Brahmin party
INC - any human there?:lol:

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KNMK is the big caste party like PMK, hope like last time Western TN people gives big zero for KNMK and INC. Thatha will give more constituency for INC/KNMK in Kongu belt so that DMK loss will be minimal"

vs007
March 4th, 2011, 09:03 PM
incase if he dies before the election? Wont this alliance arithmetic go wrong?

Yes, and hope so!

Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 09:23 PM
^^^^ Without caste no political party can survive in TN. That's the reality, and for south TN it works 100%. Also, the only party with no caste or communal background are the communists. But you see what their fate is? People use them only as "pickles"

Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 09:25 PM
Yes, and hope so!

Thatha making all possible efforts to release ponnar shankar before the formation of next government

Mr.Nellai
March 4th, 2011, 09:38 PM
TN: EC logs out CM info from government website

Gone are the days when the Election Commission enforced the model code of conduct by restricting welfare schemes. This time, it has cracked the whip from the cyber world.

So, the Tamil Nadu government website is going to be of no help to a person who wants to know who the chief minister is. Ditto for ministers and the mayor.

The names and telephone numbers of Chief Minister M Karunanidhi and all his Cabinet colleagues have been blocked by the EC. Even the link to the Budget documents has been blocked.

Information about the mayors of Salem, Coimbatore and Tirunelveli has been blocked so far.

When asked, Chief Electoral Officer Praveen Kumar told reporters on Thursday that on directions from the EC, more than 30 State government departments have removed the names of ministers and other details like their telephone numbers from the websites of their respective departments. Questioned whether it was a fair move on the part of the EC, the CEO said as per the Commission’s rules, politicians can’t do their propaganda on government expenditure.

Interestingly, a few minutes before the CEO took his seat at the press conference at Fort St George, a photograph of Karunanidhi in the room was taken down. Another vanishing act at an entrance was of a series of photographs on the welfare schemes of the State government. Elsewhere on Island Grounds, the photographs of the CM at various stalls in the government exhibition disappeared.

Source (http://expressbuzz.com/states/tamilnadu/tn-ec-logs-out-cm-info-from-government-website/253096.html)

Arasu
March 4th, 2011, 10:44 PM
^^
This is carrying it too far. Why should their information be removed from the website if it is election time? Have they ceased to be CM, Mayor, or whatever the case may be.
If you give babus some power, they apply it mindlessly.

kongutamizhan
March 4th, 2011, 11:19 PM
aathadi, edhukku indha kola veri??

Yes, and hope so!

incase if he dies before the election? Wont this alliance arithmetic go wrong?

gtmashok
March 5th, 2011, 05:11 AM
It is a mixed bag for the Congress in the upcoming elections to five state assemblies, says a pre-election survey of the 5 assemblies commissioned by the party.

The survey was carried out in February and is more or less on expected lines, says a senior party leader and tallies with what the party's own assessment is.

According to the findings, the Congress is all set to make a comeback in Kerala by trouncing the Left Front government in the state. The party is losing power in Puducherry and is also in line to lose Tamil Nadu along with the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam.

Jayalalithaa's All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam is set to return to power in both the states.





In Tamil Nadu, however, the situation does not look good for the Congress-DMK combine.

In a House of 234, the Congress-DMK-Pattali Makkal Katchi are pegged to get just 77 seats while Jayalalitha's AIADMK is set to increase their tally and get 152 seats, marking her return as the next chief minister. The Left will get 4 and the BJP 1 seat, according to the survey.

All India Congress Committee General Secretary-in-charge of Tamil Nadu, Ghulam Nabi Azad who was in Chennai on Wednesday night and held meetings with DMK leaders came back on Thursday morning as the DMK was offering only 58 seats and the Congress was insisting on at least 62.

The issue was discussed in the core committee on Thursday evening and sources said it will be sorted out.

In Puducherry again the news is not good for the Congress.

Out of the 30 seats in the assembly, the Congress will get 6, the DMK 5 while the AIADMK is slated to get 19 seats.

Clearly the influence of Tamil Nadu is very much there with the AIADMK set to return to power in next-door Puducherry as well.

Sources say the Congress managers are studying the results of the survey and it is likely that some course correction initiatives may be on the cards as the party works to minimise its negatives in the run up to the polls.



http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-congress-survey-win-in-wb-kerala-loss-in-tn-assam/20110303.htm

gtmashok
March 5th, 2011, 05:20 AM
As a further indication of deteriorating ties between the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam [ Images ] and the Congress ahead of the Tamil Nadu assembly election, Chief Minister M Karunanidhi [ Images ] issued a post-midnight statement slamming the Congress of being greedy.

"After starting from 51, and then going on to 53 and then again to 58, we finally agreed to give 60 seats to the Congress," Karunanidhi said in his statement.

"This was finalised and conveyed to Ghulam Nabi Azad [ Images ]. Instead of signing the agreement, the Congress on Friday called over the phone and demanded 63 seats -- that too constituencies of their choice. Is this fair? Only our party can decide the constituencies. We will now decide our final course of action in Saturday's meeting."

The statement comes hours after actor-politician Vijayakant and All India [ Images ] Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam chief J Jayalalithaa [ Images ] finalised their seat-sharing agreement.

The AIADMK has given Vijayakant's Desiya Murpokku Dravida Kazhagam 41 seats. Speculation was rife in Chennai that the state's top three parties were wooing Vijayakant till the last minute.

From the Congress's side, Home Minister P Chidambaram's [ Images ] son Karthi was said to have conducted two secret meetings with Vijayakant over the course of the last seven days.

Karunanidhi's elder son and Union Chemical and Fertilizers Minister M K Azhagiri [ Images ] also heaped praise on Vijayakant over the last two days. This was significant since all indications were that the Congress and DMK had not arrived at a final figure and the DMK too was keeping its options open. :nuts:

The AIADMK was the first party to tilt towards the DMDK, which had more than 10 per cent vote share in the past couple of elections and has been seen as dividing the votes of the Dravidian parties.

Though the two parties were said to have even finalised the number of seats and even the constituencies, Vijayakant's party was seen to be the trump card in the run up to the assembly elections stated for April 13.

Now, with Vijayakant and Jayalaithaa finalising their agreement and making it public, the DMK has chosen this moment to hit out at the Congress in the open for the first time.

The DMK has already finalised 52 seats with its other allies, leaving 182 seats for itself and the Congress to share. With the Congress demanding 63, it would have left the DMK with 119.

Significantly, the DMK sources had in private told rediff.com that 120 was the magic mark for their party. With the Congress pegging its desired number at three more than the DMK's final offer, this is seen as the final stand off between the two parties.

DMK sources said that if the party had any hopes of retaining power in the state with a dominant role, it would need to contest anywhere between 120 and 125 seats.

The DMK being very generous with allies like the Pattali Makkal Katchi and the Viduthalai Chiruthaikal Katchi was seen as a subtle tactic of arm-twisting against the Congress, which started negotiations with a supposed demand for 80 seats.

The biggest significance of Friday night's statement from Chief Minister Karunanidhi is that this is the first time in many months that the DMK has spoken openly about the alliance and negotiations in public.

Party sources see this as the final straw in the alliance's back.

Further developments are expected on Saturday following a high level meeting in the DMK, but there is no denying that the AIADMK led alliance has drawn first blood in the run up to the election, which is just 39 days away.



http://www.rediff.com/news/report/tn-greedy-congress-upsets-dmk-split-imminent/20110305.htm

The drama is getting very interesting. I think Rahul's influence is at work here... maybe he is trying the going alone strategy with a minor twist (i.e. contesting more seats than usual). I also think we need to remember that so far, Cong has won most number of seats in 2006 assembly election. Don't know if they are being daring or delusional with this current strategy of demanding more seats.

Arul Murugan
March 5th, 2011, 06:20 AM
aathadi, edhukku indha kola veri??

MGR forumula! America, Hospital pics, media..... election win with age old technology.

Now they can even do 24hrs telecast from hospital. :lol:

spidermanusa
March 5th, 2011, 09:16 AM
INC - any human there?:lol:

Yes, all of them form the ஐவர் குழு.

Malaysia Mustafa
March 5th, 2011, 09:57 AM
அப்பாவி பெண் பெயரில் 117 மொபைல் போன் கனெக்ஷன் (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=200028)

புதுடில்லி புறநகர் பகுதியை சேர்ந்த டர்கமான்கேட் என்ற பகுதியை சேர்ந்த 34வயது கொண்டகீதா (பெயர் மாற்றப்பட்டுள்ளது) என்ற பெண் ஒருவர் பெயரில் 117 மொபைல் கனெக்சன் பெற்றிருப்பதை கண்டறிந்தது. இதனையடுத்து தீவிரமாக விசாரிக்கத்துவங்கிய போது அப்பெண்ணின் சகோதரர் மற்றும் கணவன்,நண்பர்கள் என அப்பெண்ணின் பெயரை பயன்படுத்தி கனெக்ஷன் பெற்றிருப்பது கண்டறியப்பட்டது. கடந்த மூன்று ஆண்டுகளுக்கும் மேலாக அப்பெண்ணின் பெயரில் கனெக்ஷன் பெற்றிருப்பது கண்டறியப்பட்டுள்ளது. இதில் விசேஷம் என்னவெனில் 117 மொபைல் போன் கனெக்ஷனில் ஒன்று கூட அவரிடம் கிடையாது.எந்த ஒரு மொபைல் போனும் அவரிடம் கிடையாது என்பது தான் கூடுதல் தகவல். படிப்பறிவில்லாத அவரின் அறியாமையை பயன்படுத்தியுள்ளனர்.

kannan infratech
March 5th, 2011, 11:41 AM
^^
This is carrying it too far. Why should their information be removed from the website if it is election time? Have they ceased to be CM, Mayor, or whatever the case may be.
If you give babus some power, they apply it mindlessly.

Logically, what you say is correct.

But the Govt websites have been misused to propaganda ruling party's achievements. (under the guise of the Dept achievements)

Even huge money is being collected from all Govt contractors for Party election meetings by the Govt Dept officials. Already they all are suffering from the high cost of cement, steel, sand, blue metal etc. (and the BRIBES).

Most of the Govt works have been stopped for the past few months since the Govt has not paid the contractors for the jobs completed even 6 months back. Now they say that the Treasury is empty.

Whichever party comes next, will have a huge task of bringing back the state on the rails. Borrowing for development is not bad. But borrowing for salaries and freebies and not allotting money for development is a crime.

Arul Murugan
March 5th, 2011, 03:02 PM
Breaking news: DMK+Congress tie up breaks

Wow nice chance for TN people to wipe out congress from TN.:banana:

Well done DMK. :cheers:

CBE_Poonakutty
March 5th, 2011, 03:11 PM
:banana::banana::banana::banana:

You beat me by 5 mins Arul :lol::lol:

Now what? Congies going alone?

Naveenmech
March 5th, 2011, 03:17 PM
Breaking news: DMK+Congress tie up breaks

Wow nice chance for TN people to wipe out congress from TN.:banana:

Well done DMK. :cheers:

So what about minister posts?...lot of questions are arising....:nuts::nuts:

CBE_Poonakutty
March 5th, 2011, 03:18 PM
They have resigned :banana::banana:

krishnaswamy
March 5th, 2011, 03:45 PM
Its good chance for Congress... whether they have some "rosham" to kick back dmk...
but current TN Cong president is weak link in taking some strong decision from Congress

Yagya
March 5th, 2011, 03:47 PM
What if Congress and Jayalalitha come together?:colgate:

Arul Murugan
March 5th, 2011, 03:52 PM
Its good chance for Congress... whether they have some "rosham" to kick back dmk...
but current TN Cong president is weak link in taking some strong decision from Congress

when they had that rosham?? and which cong president was strong to take decision after Kamarajar?

Imagine if congress was ruling TN, this "Iavar koolu" will be inviting or asking permission from sonia raja matha or raul baba for opening a water tap at kothalchavadi.. :lol:

Arul Murugan
March 5th, 2011, 03:54 PM
What if Congress and Jayalalitha come together?:colgate:

No chance for this election! As already ADMK alliance is at the end of sealing. Further Sonia and Jaya waves never matched... Jaya may be the top one to bash sonia for being a foreigner and aspiring for PM. So even if Jaya likes, Sonia will dispose it.:nuts:

Yagya
March 5th, 2011, 03:58 PM
^^

well if we look in that perspective then Sharad Pawar also did the same but is now one of the allies so in politics everything can change!

krishnaswamy
March 5th, 2011, 03:59 PM
Ministers did not resign. they did not send their resignations in fax. They are going to give it in person to Manmohan.
So this might be tactics of DMK to black mail Congress and prevent the possiblity of CBI touching Kanimozhi..
We need to wait and see, do Congress has the courage to take it instead of bending down to Thatha

Anniyan
March 5th, 2011, 04:02 PM
Breaking news: DMK+Congress tie up breaks

Wow nice chance for TN people to wipe out congress from TN.:banana:

Well done DMK. :cheers:

Fantastic news! Double happy that it happened after vijaykanth signed poll pact with admk. Now congress has to go alone or form a third front with BJP. ROFL

CBE_Poonakutty
March 5th, 2011, 04:05 PM
What if Congress and Jayalalitha come together?:colgate:

In January after being snubbed by the congress, Jaya openly said she wont tie up with congress. Further, there are no seats to give to congress if they join this front. Already 50 seats given, and now communists (around 20) MDMK (around 30) has to be accomodated. Even under current circumstances, ADMK cant contest more than 130 - 135 seats. So noway they can accomodate congress. congies gonna be wiped out.

CBE_Poonakutty
March 5th, 2011, 04:08 PM
Fantastic news! Double happy that it happened after vijaykanth signed poll pact with admk. Now congress has to go alone or form a third front wi BJP.

and what? Sonia and Advani sharing a platform for campaigning?? That would be the wierdest day in Indian politics.

krishnaswamy
March 5th, 2011, 04:18 PM
Friends,
Please find the facts behind this move by "thatha'.
It is just political stunt since congress has no other choice. This also to blackmail Congress to Stop CBI from questioning Kanimozhi

wlbkng
March 5th, 2011, 05:18 PM
Breaking news: DMK+Congress tie up breaks

Wow nice chance for TN people to wipe out congress from TN.:banana:

Well done DMK. :cheers:

One of the best news I have heard in the recent times. Even if DMK loses this poll, congress cant even imagine for a come back in TN hereafter. Greediness has paid for congress. than thalaiyile thaane manna vaari potukitanga.. Severe blow to National parties in TN. :cheers:

It would only be DMK / ADMK / DMDK for the rest of history hereafter in TN... :banana:

Malaysia Mustafa
March 5th, 2011, 06:30 PM
Breaking news: DMK+Congress tie up breaks

Wow nice chance for TN people to wipe out congress from TN.:banana:

Well done DMK. :cheers:

Now Cong is going to know clearly what is their vote bank in TN. :lol::lol::lol:. Chinna pullainga chocolate ku adichikara madhiri adichukittanga. Ippa ellame puttukichu...:lol::lol:.But wait and watch. Anything can happen tomorrow are day after tomorrow. கவுண்டமணி டயலாக் தான் பிரபல்யமாச்சே. அரசியல்ல இதெல்லாம் சகஜமப்பா

nonamio
March 5th, 2011, 07:11 PM
One of the best news I have heard in the recent times. Even if DMK loses this poll, congress cant even imagine for a come back in TN hereafter. Greediness has paid for congress. than thalaiyile thaane manna vaari potukitanga.. Severe blow to National parties in TN. :cheers:

It would only be DMK / ADMK / DMDK for the rest of history hereafter in TN... :banana:

Why are you against national parties ruling TN. Is there any particular reason ? its high time we need an alternative to DMK family and AMMA dont you think. Do you think DMK is less greedy than congress. Kamaraj-Congress and Modi-BJP.

CBE_Poonakutty
March 5th, 2011, 07:22 PM
If there is a Kamaraj or Modi, why should we vote against them? What do we have? Thangabalu, G.K Vasan, Elangovan and few other good for nothing stooges. If we elect these fellows, there wont be one leader with a spine to represent us.

wlbkng
March 5th, 2011, 07:40 PM
Why are you against national parties ruling TN. Is there any particular reason ?

Thats my view and this is a democratic country. You cant question me. The congress in TN is a headless chicken. No one knows who has the power of leadership in congress in TN. There are innumerable factions. And if state ends in their hands, it will be like Korangu kaila poomalai.

its high time we need an alternative to DMK family and AMMA dont you think.

Dont u think its the high time we have an end to Gandhi family ruling the country?

Do you think DMK is less greedy than congress. Kamaraj-Congress and Modi-BJP.

All politicians are greedy. so wat? Kamaraj was a great leader(I, including many people in this country admire him, he was one of the visionary). But he is no more and congress has been lying in coma since then in TN. :lol:

You go and ask anyone who was born and brought up in TN, they will either support DMK or ADMK at a macro level for ruling the state.

Congress and BJP standing alone and dreaming of ruling TN is just a joke. Like it or not, thats the fact!

Mr.Nellai
March 5th, 2011, 08:43 PM
Why are you against national parties ruling TN. Is there any particular reason ? its high time we need an alternative to DMK family and AMMA dont you think. Do you think DMK is less greedy than congress. Kamaraj-Congress and Modi-BJP.


It is people's opinion and it has been the same for past 4-5 decades.

Mr.Nellai
March 6th, 2011, 03:47 AM
With DMK out, it will be a big relief for congress- E.V.K.S ELANGOVAN

http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/632011/06032011-cni-mn-09/31631250.JPG

Mr.Nellai
March 6th, 2011, 05:58 AM
Reason to withdraw from cabinet


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Mr.Nellai
March 6th, 2011, 06:00 AM
Some interesting stuff


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jaish
March 6th, 2011, 08:18 AM
Breaking news: DMK+Congress tie up breaks

Wow nice chance for TN people to wipe out congress from TN.:banana:

Well done DMK. :cheers:

Very good news. This is the time congress needs to be wiped out from major Sounthern Indian States except Kerala and Ponidcherry. I hope even in Pondicherry congress will suffer a lot due to the split.

Congress needs to be taught a good lesson. Congress Posture now reminds me of the song from Munram Pirai "Munnuru Kalathula Kulla nari story"

jaish
March 6th, 2011, 08:21 AM
With DMK out, it will be a big relief for congress- E.V.K.S ELANGOVAN

http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/632011/06032011-cni-mn-09/31631250.JPG


Biggest Comedian.

jaish
March 6th, 2011, 08:28 AM
What if Congress and Jayalalitha come together?:colgate:

With two mericurial temper ladies, Manmohan singh will get admitted in hospital to get another By pass surgery.

BTW MM would thanked MK for this decision as he might get relieved very soon from the post of PM.

jaish
March 6th, 2011, 08:33 AM
Its good chance for Congress... whether they have some "rosham" to kick back dmk...
but current TN Cong president is weak link in taking some strong decision from Congress

Only Current Cong President is not strong. When was the lost time Congress had strong Leader.

jaish
March 6th, 2011, 08:38 AM
Why are you against national parties ruling TN. Is there any particular reason ? its high time we need an alternative to DMK family and AMMA dont you think. Do you think DMK is less greedy than congress. Kamaraj-Congress and Modi-BJP.

Congress Has never respected the aspiration of the people in the state and It never encouraged any Mass leader from the state for that from any state. They only need leader who got no spine and no head and should be the bonded labor of Gandhi Family. Kindly learn what has happened to Kamaraj in his final days and Presently to Jagmohan Reddy of Andhra

Mr.Nellai
March 6th, 2011, 03:55 PM
Even if DMK withdraws support, central government won't be destabilized

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Mr.Nellai
March 6th, 2011, 04:38 PM
NASA scientist finds 'worm-like alien life form in meteorite'

Maybe this is what an alien really looks like - a worm-like bacteria.


NASA scientist Dr Richard Hoover claims to have found life form, which may explain how life on earth started and what's more, he challenges anyone to come forth and disprove his claim.

An astrobiologist with Nasa's Marshall Space Flight Center, Hoover explains that travelling to Antarctica, Siberia and Alaska he has studied an extremely rare form of meteorites - CI1 carbonaceous chondrites - of which only nine are known to exist on earth.

Under microscopes, these meteorites showed numerous different fossils of bacteria - some which are similar to ones on earth and others which are well, alien.

According to him, life on earth could have been planted by bacteria in an asteroid hitting the planet in its infancy.

In one case he found on a meteorite an organism similar in size and overall structure to the giant bacterium Titanospirillum velox, an organism found here on planet Earth.

"I interpret it as indicating that life is more broadly distributed than restricted strictly to the planet earth," the Daily Mail quoted him as telling Fox News.

"The exciting thing is that they [the bacteria] are in many cases recognisable and can be associated very closely with the generic species here on earth," he said.

He added, "There are some that are just very strange and don't look like anything that I've been able to identify, and I've shown them to many other experts that have also come up stumped."

In one of the remains, Hoover found no nitrogen.

"If someone can explain how it is possible to have a biological remain that has no nitrogen, or nitrogen below the detect ability limits that I have, in a time period as short as 150 years, then I would be very interested in hearing that," he said.

"I've talked with many scientists about this and no one has been able to explain."

Dr Rudy Schild, editor-in-chief of the journal Cosmology, said, "Given the controversial nature of his discovery, we have invited 100 experts and have issued a general invitation to over 5,000 scientists from the scientific community to review the paper and to offer their critical analysis."

The findings are published in the March edition of the Journal of Cosmology.

Source (http://in.news.yahoo.com/nasa-scientist-finds-worm-alien-life-form-meteorite-20110305-200338-401.html)

Mr.Nellai
March 6th, 2011, 05:46 PM
Heart surgery by Robot

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Mr.Nellai
March 7th, 2011, 01:26 AM
More parties may join DMK alliance


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Mr.Nellai
March 7th, 2011, 01:44 AM
Interceptor missile test-fired successfully




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Mr.Nellai
March 7th, 2011, 01:47 AM
Start Music - Election campaign started

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Mr.Nellai
March 7th, 2011, 01:52 AM
Communists should join DMK alliance

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Mr.Nellai
March 7th, 2011, 01:54 AM
DMK ministers to resign today


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kongutamizhan
March 7th, 2011, 06:46 AM
DMK confirmed alliance with Kongu Munnetra Peravai last week by alloting 7 seats. Now the Kongu party is reconsidering the alliance with DMK (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=503:2011-03-07-02-47-30&catid=8:news)...



திமுகவுடனான தொகுதிப் பங்கீடு மறுபரிசீலனை - கொங்கு முன்னேற்றப் பேரவை

திங்கட்கிழமை, 07 மார்ச் 2011 08:12

திமுக காங்கிரஸ் கூட்டணியில் ஏற்பட்டுள்ள பிளவை அடுத்து, திமுக கூட்டணியில் 7 இடங்கள் பெற ஒப்பந்தம் செய்துள்ள கொங்கு முன்னேற்றப் பேரவை, தங்களது முடிவை மறுபரிசீலனை செய்வதாக தகவல்கள் வெளியாகியுள்ளன. இது குறித்து டைம்ஸ் ஆப் இந்தியா நாளேட்டுக்கு அளித்த பேட்டியில், கொங்கு முன்னேற்றப் பேரவையின் பொருளாளர் கே.பாலசுப்ரமணியம், அரசியலில் எதுவும் நிரந்தரம் கிடையாது. காங்கிரஸ் திமுக கூட்டணி தொடரும் என்று எதிர்ப்பார்க்கிறோம். அப்படித் தொடரவில்லையெனில் நாங்கள் மீண்டும் கொங்குப்பேரவை திமுக கூட்டணியோடு உள்ள சாதக பாதகங்களை அலசி ஆராய்ந்து ஒரு நல்ல முடிவை எடுப்போம் என்ற தெரிவித்துள்ளார். (சார், திமுக குடுக்கறதா ஒத்துக்கிட்ட 50 கோடியப் பத்தி சொல்லவே மாட்றீங்களே... ?)

On a seperate development PMK might ditch the DMK alliance (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=499:2011-03-06-15-32-49&catid=8:news) and go with congress. Congress is trying to woo PMK with a cabinet post for Anbumani and also trying to blackmail PMK with the CBI raid on Anbu's secretary. Lots of drama and action at the last minute.

காங்கிரஸ் திமுக கூட்டணிக்கு ஈமக்கிரியை நடந்து விட்ட நிலையில், காங்கிரஸ் கட்சி தமிழக சட்டமன்றத் தேர்தலில் தனித்துப் போட்டியிட முடிவு செய்துள்ளது. புதிய திருப்பமாக பாட்டாளி மக்கள் கட்சியை திமுக கூட்டணியிலிருந்து பிரித்து, தேர்தலை பாமகவோடு சந்திக்க காங்கிரஸ் கட்சி திட்டமிட்டு வருவதாக நம்பகமாக டெல்லி வட்டாரங்கள் தெரிவிக்கின்றன. காங்கிரசோடு சேர்வதற்கு பாமகவுக்கு, தூண்டுதலாக மத்திய மந்திரி சபையில் இடம் வழங்கப் படும் என்றும், மிரட்டுவதற்கு, அன்புமணியின் உதவியாளர் வீட்டில் நடந்த சிபிஐ சோதனைகளை பயன்படுத்துவதாகவும் தெரிவிக்கின்றன.

gtmashok
March 7th, 2011, 06:54 AM
Krishnakumar Padmanabhan in Chennai

'How come?', 'why now?', 'what next?' Rediff.com's Krishnakumar Padmanabhan answers all your questions on the DMK-Congress drama!

The Congress-Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam seat sharing talks, which began on February 20, finally seems to have broken down after three rounds on March 5, with the DMK quitting the Union cabinet and giving issue-based support to the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance government.

What happened in the meeting?

As soon as it became clear that the Congress was not going to agree to the DMK's best offer, everybody in Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi's family and other senior party leaders wanted to quit the alliance.

Chief among them was the chief minister's elder son, M K Alagiri. When it became clear on Thursday that talks are about to break down, Karunanidhi convened an informal meeting at his home.

In that meeting, Alagiri made it very clear that he had had enough with the Congress and was said to be the most vocal about ending the alliance. He is said to have promised to deliver a huge chunk of seats from the 110 southern Tamil Nadu constituencies to compensate for the Congress's absence.

Tamil Nadu Deputy Chief Minister and Karunanidhi's younger son, M K Stalin, took a neutral stand, wanting to thoroughly weigh the pros and cons of the

Senior party leader K N Nehru was among those who were firmly for continuing the alliance with the Congress at any cost.

With so many variations and opinions on how to continue with the situation, Karunanidhi is said to have ended the argument. He asked the senior leaders that though there may be merit in continuing in the government, whether it was judicious to carry on despite the repeated humiliation heaped by the Congress.

Thus, the decision to quit the government was taken on Friday night, after which Karunanidhi released a statement making public the various 'unreasonable Congress demands.'

The Congress's views

"We can afford to lose badly in the five states that are going to polls," said a Tamil Nadu congress functionary. "But that will be nothing as compared to the kind of damage that will be caused to our image if we are seen to be clinging on the DMK."

With the Tamil Nadu Congress being ridden by factionalism, the party as a whole was looking to New Delhi for direction with respect to the DMK alliance. That direction, TN Congress sources say, is being given by Rahul Gandhi, who takes inputs from his bunch of youth leaders in the state.

"It is very clear that he does not want to continue with the DMK," said the functionary , who is from a north Indian state and has spent the last one year in Tamil Nadu Congress. "Moreover, if we have ambitions in a state like Tamil Nadu, we will have to stand on our own legs at some point or the other. So, why not now? Even if we lose badly, this would at least be a starting point to regain our glory days in the state"

DMK sources also said the Congress is being very ambitious.

From a different camp, former Union Minister T R Baalu promised to negotiate with the Congress and take the talks to a fruitful conclusion.

Union Minister Dayanidhi Maran was in favour of ending the alliance, citing the arrogant Congress behaviour.

"Take everything out of the equation and tell me," started a DMK leader. "Isn't 60 seats a very respectable figure for the Congress, that too in a state like Tamil Nadu, where it has no standing? They have proved that they clearly have other agendas. And it is very clear that we do not fit in that agenda new agenda. Otherwise this charade would not have lasted this long."

"Take everything out of the equation and tell me," started a DMK leader. "Isn't 60 seats a very respectable figure for the Congress, that too in a state like Tamil Nadu, where it has no standing? They have proved that they clearly have other agendas. And it is very clear that we do not fit in that agenda new agenda. Otherwise this charade would not have lasted this long."

The 2G backlash

The biggest question that arises out of the DMK's latest move is whether there would be a Congress-motivated backlash against it in the 2G scam via the Central Bureau of Investigation.

"We have clear signals from the party leadership that we have to be prepared for such an eventuality," said a DMK leader from a southern district.

He said that whoever is implicated in the 2G scam is prepared to "face the consequences."

"But that doesn't mean we will go down with a whimper," he said, adding, "Even as we are ready to face the consequences, we will also take the real truth behind the scam to the people."

What does issue-based support mean?

The way Karunanidhi's statement was framed reminded one of a parody of the convoluted way Time magazine was written: 'Backward ran sentences, till reeled the mind.'

Phrases like 'our good ally Congress', 'this long-standing alliance built on the foundation of secular ideas', Thyaga Thiruvilakku (Epitome of sacrifice) Sonia Gandhi, 'the situation that was inevitably created in the current environment left us with no other option' peppered the painstakingly written statement.

What was not said in the resolution was more significant than what was said. By implication, the simple message was that if the Congress agreed to take 60 seats, all could still be well with the alliance.

A DMK leader explained it thus: "Even if this means severing ties, our leader wants to do it cordially. That is why he has left the door open for the Congress to still agree and stay on in the alliance. And he also doesn't want to let go of political niceties."

That is why, the leader said, instead of completely withdrawing support, Karunanidhi had said the DMK will give the Congress issue-based support.

"He could have very well walked out clean and dry," he said. "But he doesn't want to be the one to take that decision. He has now left it to the Congress and it is up to them to decide how to proceed from here."

Even official spokesperson TKS Elangovan, when asked if the alliance can survive if the Congress agrees to take the number of seats allotted, said: "It is up to the Congress."

Consequences for the UPA at the Centre

The general belief in Congress circles is that the party can fill the 18-seat void left by the DMK in many ways. They may have to look at less reliable allies than the DMK for sure, but there wont be any major harm to the government.

But the DMK's thought is different on this topic.

"We stood by them through thick and thin for so long," said a leader at the party headquarters. "Now they have treated us badly. Whichever way they make up the numbers, they can never deny that no other party has stood by them the way we have, barring probably (former Railway Minister) Lalu (Prasad Yadav's Rashtriya Janata Dal). And we all know how the Congress treated him. We should have learnt our lessons earlier."

Cadres' reaction

Probably what nobody noticed was how the news was received on Friday in the respective party headquarters.

While there were slogans urging the DMK leadership to sever ties with the Congress from Friday morning, the kind of jubilant roar that greeted the announcement in the evening was unprecedented.

The low and mid-level cadre are the ones who make or break elections. Further, the DMK is primarily a cadre-based party.

The indecision in the alliance with merely weeks to go before the elections was getting on the grassroot level workers' nerves. Lower and middle level functionaries have been thronging Anna Arivalayam for the past three days with the hope that the alliance would be cemented and they would be given clear directions to start work in their respective constituencies.

Similarly, the Congress headquarters in New Delhi too witnessed similar scenes.

Both sets of leadership definitely heard the roar outside the respective party offices when the news came. It would be in their best interest if they also listened to their cadre.



Sorry for long article... But it proved my intuition correct that Rahul is behind this Congress move.

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-explained-the-dmk-congress-showdown/20110306.htm

gtmashok
March 7th, 2011, 06:58 AM
Sheela Bhatt in New Delhi
Sheela Bhatt analyses the gameplan behind the Congress's decision to play hardball in Tamil Nadu, to the extent that it doesn't care if the DMK walks out of the UPA government at the Centre.

The battle for the 234-seat Tamil Nadu assembly is getting intriguing with the Congress party unwilling to accept the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam's offer of 60 seats, 12 seats more than the last assembly election, but 18 seats less than what the party's high command wanted before the talks for seat sharing began.

The impact of Congress General Secretary Rahul Gandhi is at work. He wants the party to rebuild its grassroot base and prefers to go alone at the polls. The Congress party's debacle in the Bihar assembly election last year has not made any enduring impact on the spirit of the Gandhis.

The audacity of the Congress party is worth noting. A full day has passed since the DMK threatened to walk out of the government, but the Congress has remained unmoved.

Samajwadi Party chief Mulayam Singh Yadav is desperate to have ties with the Congress for next year's assembly election in Uttar Pradesh. His party's fixers are already talking about offering 100 seats to the Congress in the state.

Yadav has lent his support to the United Progressive Alliance, so the UPA government has no risk to its survival. That is why it seems the Congress-DMK electoral alliance will fructify only on terms suitable to the Congress party.

The first glimpse into the Congress's future strategy will be visible if the Congress-DMK alliance breaks.

"If we go with 60 seats, which are not entirely of our choice, then how many of it will we win ultimately?" asks a Congress leader, adding, "On the other hand, if we go alone, we will manage more or less the same number of seats that we will get by having an alliance with the DMK."

The real politics is actually being played at another level.

The Congress wants the DMK to pay the political price for the 2G spectrum scandal. For long, the Congress has survived at the mercy of its ally in Tamil Nadu. Now, the party wants equal footing.

The Congress wants to be compensated in terms of seats for preserving the alliance in spite of the 2G spectrum taint on the DMK.

In fact, the latest party survey has thrown up two different propositions.

If the Congress, J Jayalalithaa's All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam and actor-politician Vijayakanth's Desiya Murpokku Dravida Kazhagam party join hands, that alliance would win 200 seats and sweep the polls.

Another possibility that emerged from the survey was that the DMDK, which polled 8.38 per cent and 10.08 per cent votes in the 2006 assembly and 2009 Lok Sabha elections respectively, was the kingmaker.

If the DMDK had remained unattached, instead of going along with the AIADMK as it has done now, there were some chances of the DMK retaining power.

Armed with such figures and ground reports, the Congress's oft-repeated word for the DMK's predicament is 'compulsion'.

The Congress finds its hand stronger due to the DMK's sliding fortunes and former telecom minister and DMK leader Andimuthu Raja's arrest in the 2G spectrum case.

The Congress has also taken a tough stand due to the divisions within the party in the state.

Home Minister Palaniappan Chidambaram is aiming to make a mark in his native state this election. But Shipping Minister G K Vasan, arguably the most influential Congress leader in Tamil Nadu, wants to cut every other leader down to size.

The same is true within the DMK where sharp divisions have emerged with M K Alagiri, Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi's elder son, understanding grassroots politics better than anyone else in the party's next generation.

Many known and hidden forces and logic drove the talks between the Congress and the DMK.

Caste calculations, local issues, a future power-sharing arrangement, the money game and the impact of an alliance in Chennai on the power-sharing arrangement in New Delhi were the influencing factors.

According to reliable sources in the party, the Congress negotiating team had asked for 78 seats to begin with.

But the DMK had already given 31 seats to the Pattali Makkal Katchi much before talks with the Congress began.

Of the remaining 203 seats, the Congress leaders claim the DMK had moved ahead in fixing constituencies for its party candidates and were adamant about not placing certain seats on the table for discussion.

Chidambaram was blunt in reacting to this allotment of seats to other allies.

It is important to note that Congress General Secretary Rahul Gandhi was present when DMK president M Karunanidhi met Congress chief Sonia Gandhi on January 31. The trio had then discussed some basic issues of seat-sharing.

Whatever the final fate of the DMK-Congress alliance, it is clear that the Congress is ready to strike back.

After a series of scandals and adverse Supreme Court rulings, the party seems to be taking a grip on the situation.

In spite of the scandals and the credibility crisis, the Congress neither appears down nor out. It is as if the 2G scam left no taint behind.

According to a senior Congress leader, "In the 2G spectrum investigation, things have moved as much as possible. After A Raja's arrest, nobody can accuse the government about not doing enough."

In fact, there is buzz in New Delhi that the Hasan Ali Khan case may see a shocking turn.

The investigating agency is verifying if the documents related to Hasan Ali Khan's foreign bank accounts are genuine or not.

Some lawyers claim it may be fake, got into government files, and that it was on the basis of those documents that notices were issued to Hasan Ali Khan for tax violations with serious implications.

The investigation to verify the documents in the Hasan Ali Khan case is still not complete. But the Congress party is slowly and firmly showing it will be back on its feet in less than two to three months.

A senior Cabinet minister and an important party leader in a South Indian state told Rediff.com, "See me after six months. You will see the difference."

The minister said his party is banking on the Food Security Bill to create socio-political-economic history.

The Congress became ambitious in dealing with the DMK after the 2G spectrum scam.

What they cherish is that the investigation has not arrived at the door of any Congress leader and they are, so far, able to claim that the 2G spectrum is the doing of the DMK alone.

The turning point in the DMK-Congress dynamics came when the money trail, investigated by agencies like the Central Bureau of Investigation, led to the DMK's first family. Congressmen had their bargaining chip.

As we know, no political alliance breaks for three seats -- that too a seven-year-old alliance.

The two parties are playing games behind the scenes and using the media to ensure that if the alliance doesn't work out, the blame should fall on the other side.

The blame game, the expressions of leaders and their message are very important. Tamilian parties wear pride on their sleeves.

If the Congress breaks up the alliance with arrogance in its body language, then the DMK leadership will have an excuse to pacify its agitated cadres that they did not buckle under New Delhi's (read North Indian) pressure.

DMK leaders will go to town saying they were ready to sacrifice power in New Delhi to preserve the Dravidian identity.

Azhagiri said on Sunday night, 'We have no expectations of a patch-up. It won't affect our poll results.'

He asked his supporters, 'I am very happy to come out of the UPA. Are you also happy?'

'Our problem is gone,' he declared, 'because the Congress is gone.'

If the DMK-Congress alliance ends this week, then some questions arise:

Is it advantage J Jayalalithaa and her AIADMK party?

Will the Congress consider talking to the AIADMK?

The AIADMK has already sealed a deal with the DMDK, giving Vijaykanth's party 41 seats. Jayalalithaa has also held talks with the Left parties. The Congress will find that out of 234 assembly seats, again, there are less than 200 seats on the table.

Why would Jayalalithaa cut into her sphere of influence by allowing the Congress to dictate terms?

If the Congress gets a reasonable number of seats, Jayalalithaa will cut her space much before the election.

However, the pre-election surveys suggest an impressive victory for her if the AIADMK joins hands with the Congress.

Rahul Gandhi's 'Eklo Chalo (let us go it alone)' tune has many notes, which needs refinement.

Let us wait and see the fascinating permutations and combinations in the Tamil Nadu bioscope.



http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-audacious-moves-of-the-congress-in-chennai/20110307.htm

CBE_Poonakutty
March 7th, 2011, 09:50 AM
DMK confirmed alliance with Kongu Munnetra Peravai last week by alloting 7 seats. Now the Kongu party is reconsidering the alliance with DMK (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=503:2011-03-07-02-47-30&catid=8:news)...



திமுகவுடனான தொகுதிப் பங்கீடு மறுபரிசீலனை - கொங்கு முன்னேற்றப் பேரவை

திங்கட்கிழமை, 07 மார்ச் 2011 08:12

திமுக காங்கிரஸ் கூட்டணியில் ஏற்பட்டுள்ள பிளவை அடுத்து, திமுக கூட்டணியில் 7 இடங்கள் பெற ஒப்பந்தம் செய்துள்ள கொங்கு....

KNMK lost all its credibility even among its own base. It seems "Pest" Ramasamy and Easwaran got license for a distillery and sugar factory respectively and 100 cr each. If the public mood is anything to go by, they are not going to win even one of the seven seats.

Rahul Gandhi thinks Indian politics is made up in corporate style board rooms but will soon realize that it is made in the dust and grime of the country's vast hinterland. Although he has seen the trailer in Bihar, he is going to see the full show in TN. Atleast in Bihar congies managed 4 seats but in TN, I cant even say whether they will get their deposit in 4 seats. It is laughable that a congie commented that they would get the same amount of MLA's if they compete alone!!

Congress cannot go all out against DMK in the 2G scam. Even the most naive person wont think that congress has nothing to do with it. Subramanian Swamy in his letter to PM a few months back told that Sonia "G" transferred funds worth 18000 crores from this loot to her 2 sisters in Italy. If they stretch it too far, DMK will be left with no option to strike back. Not only 2G but I am sure they know a lot of things about Adarsh, CWG etc etc.. So I am not expecting congress to go against DMK in a no holds barred kinda way. Then mata"Rome" will be in real big trouble.

Into_salem
March 7th, 2011, 10:08 AM
This is the data taken from Census 2011 official Web Site. Data seems to Provisional though !

Source :Directory of Tamilnadu (http://www.censusindia.gov.in/downloads/ppt/Dir-33.rar)


City 2001 2011

Chennai (M Corp.) 4169899 6254849
Vellore (M. Corp) 170141 255211
Salem (M Corp.) 668890 1003334
Erode (M.Corp) 144519 216779
Tiruchirappalli (M Corp.) 721983 1082975
Madurai (M Corp.) 891714 1337572
Thoothukkudi (M.Corp.) 207412 311118
Tirunelveli (M.Corp.) 395358 593036
Coimbatore (M.Corp.) 893646 1340470
Tiruppur (M.Corp) 330762 496142

jaish
March 7th, 2011, 10:13 AM
KNMK lost all its credibility even among its own base. It seems "Pest" Ramasamy and Easwaran got license for a distillery and sugar factory respectively and 100 cr each. If the public mood is anything to go by, they are not going to win even one of the seven seats.

Rahul Gandhi thinks Indian politics is made up in corporate style board rooms but will soon realize that it is made in the dust and grime of the country's vast hinterland. Although he has seen the trailer in Bihar, he is going to see the full show in TN. Atleast in Bihar congies managed 4 seats but in TN, I cant even say whether they will get their deposit in 4 seats. It is laughable that a congie commented that they would get the same amount of MLA's if they compete alone!!

Congress cannot go all out against DMK in the 2G scam. Even the most naive person wont think that congress has nothing to do with it. Subramanian Swamy in his letter to PM a few months back told that Sonia "G" transferred funds worth 18000 crores from this loot to her 2 sisters in Italy. If they stretch it too far, DMK will be left with no option to strike back. Not only 2G but I am sure they know a lot of things about Adarsh, CWG etc etc.. So I am not expecting congress to go against DMK in a no holds barred kinda way. Then mata"Rome" will be in real big trouble.

Well and Rightly said. I feel congress was hiding its corruption in the name of coalition dharma.

dhandapanik
March 7th, 2011, 11:02 AM
Well and Rightly said. I feel congress was hiding its corruption in the name of coalition dharma.

KNMK will not do anything for CBE i guess. Like how PMK is doing in few areas. Congresss in TN??:lol: Just oru kudusaila poi sapta mattum rahul "G" peria thalaivar ahida mudiathu. Kudisaila sapdren nu solli, avunga sapdara oru vela sapattayum pudingi sapdraru..

First let them improve their home constituency "Amethi" then let them think about other places. Amethi is represented by Nehru, Sanjay, Rajiv, Sonia, Rahul.. It got 2 PMs and the others are big power houses.. but what is the status? Congress should be wiped out of TN, DMK has done a good job. But again MK, idhayam inithathu nu solli sethukuvar..

Arul Murugan
March 7th, 2011, 11:26 AM
This is the data taken from Census 2011 official Web Site. Data seems to Provisional though !

Source :Directory of Tamilnadu (http://www.censusindia.gov.in/downloads/ppt/Dir-33.rar)


City 2001 2011

Chennai (M Corp.) 4169899 6254849
Vellore (M. Corp) 170141 255211
Salem (M Corp.) 668890 1003334
Erode (M.Corp) 144519 216779
Tiruchirappalli (M Corp.) 721983 1082975
Madurai (M Corp.) 891714 1337572
Thoothukkudi (M.Corp.) 207412 311118
Tirunelveli (M.Corp.) 395358 593036
Coimbatore (M.Corp.) 893646 1340470
Tiruppur (M.Corp) 330762 496142


Exactly 50% growth in population in all the corporation. It is impossible with present boundaries.

CBE_Poonakutty
March 7th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Arul is correct. It is exact 50% difference between the two numbers for each city. I went through the document and no where it is written 2001 and 2011. I am not a statistician but I have a feeling that these are what is called "95% confidence limit numbers". They are theoretical and we have to wait for the official announcement. I highly doubt that the top 10 cities will grow by exactly 50% each. There has to be some variation between the growth numbers.

CBE_Poonakutty
March 7th, 2011, 11:53 AM
And if I remember correctly, Cbe and Madurai were million plus cities in 2001 census itself. So the figures on the left is definitely not 2001 census numbers. I also think Chennai's population in 2001 was 45 or 46 lacs and not the one given in the left side column.

Into_salem
March 7th, 2011, 11:55 AM
^^ May be the nos are something else. Yes the document does not say it 2001 and 2011, based on the familiarity of nos, I guessed it should be 2001 and 2011. My assumptions may be wrong.

CBE_Poonakutty
March 7th, 2011, 12:00 PM
Thats ok. I appreciate you taking the effort to go to the website and dig out the data. That is the most important thing :)

spidermanusa
March 7th, 2011, 03:14 PM
KNMK lost all its credibility even among its own base. It seems "Pest" Ramasamy and Easwaran got license for a distillery and sugar factory respectively and 100 cr each. If the public mood is anything to go by, they are not going to win even one of the seven seats.

Public mood is unfavorable against the present alliance. They will definitely lose deposit in all the constituencies they stand in.

Arul Murugan
March 7th, 2011, 03:31 PM
^^

KNMK will loose all its 7 for sure. Even majority Kongu Vellalars or Gounders will not vote for them.

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It looks aliance patch up work going to work out, congress proved that they have more "rosham" than anyother party.:lol:

I thought thatha atlast did a good thing for tamils in tamilnadu at the fag end of his family rule by "kalitifying congress" to wipe it out in coming election. But now it looks to be drama.... :bash:

But at grounds leg pulling is bound to happen if they face election together. :nuts:

Arul Murugan
March 7th, 2011, 03:39 PM
Going by vote share: 2006 election

DMK + INC + PMK + VCK + Others - 26.46+8.38+5.65+1.29= 41.78
ADMK + DMDK + MDMK + Communists + Others - 32.64+8.38+5.98+4.26 = 51.26

Same appeared in Ananda Vikatan this week

http://new.vikatan.com/av/2011/03/09/images/p9.jpg

Arul Murugan
March 7th, 2011, 04:08 PM
மருத்துவ படிப்பிற்கு பொது நுழைவு தேர்வு : சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட்

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=201256

Slowly CG imposing their wish on state government? Hope TN gvt oppose this move strictly and keep this entrance/admission under state gvt control. Both MK and JJ are opposing this move from begining. All because of congress...:bash:

spidermanusa
March 7th, 2011, 04:24 PM
It looks aliance patch up work going to work out, congress proved that they have more "rosham" than anyother party.

Congress is taking a tough stance. They are not losing control of the situation. Long term this might help to establish a presence in TN.

Arul Murugan
March 7th, 2011, 04:50 PM
Congress is taking a tough stance. They are not losing control of the situation. Long term this might help to establish a presence in TN.

It was a sarcastic post. Meaning is that no rosham... hope it just have presence and never come to rule.

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KNMK divides! majority wants alliance with ADMK :lol:

http://www.dinamalar.com/video_Inner.asp?news_id=2943&cat=32

krishnaswamy
March 7th, 2011, 04:52 PM
hm.. looks Congress will get their 63 seats.. (3 seats will be taken from PMK)

chidambaram_mech04
March 7th, 2011, 04:59 PM
Dinamalar News:

It seems PMK losing 3 seats in the alliance. Again Congress goimg to come to DMK alliance?

CBE_Poonakutty
March 7th, 2011, 05:32 PM
KNMK divides! majority wants alliance with ADMK

http://www.dinamalar.com/video_Inner...id=2943&cat=32

Not at all surprising.

Regarding the politics going on between DMK and congress, a person named Manickam's comment in dinamalar is worth posting here.

இவ்வளவு கொள்ளை அடித்தும் போதாத மஞ்சள் துண்டு முழு ஊழலுக்கும் காரணமான தனது குடும்பத்தை சிபிஐ மற்றும் உச்சநீதிமன்றத்தின் பிடியில் இருந்து காப்பாற்ற காங்கிரசை மிரட்டுகிறார். 60 தொகுதிகளுக்கும் 63 தொகுதிகளுக்கும் பெரிய வித்தியாசம் இல்லை. மூன்று தொகுதிகளுக்காக யாரும் கூட்டணியை முறிக்க மாட்டார்கள் என்பது குழந்தைக்கும் தெரியும். ஆனால் திமுக சொம்புகள் காங்கிரசுக்கு ஐம்பதே அதிகம் அறுபதே அதிகம் என்று கூவுவது மக்களையும், பத்திரிக்கைகளையும் முட்டாளாக்கும் செயல். என்னைக்குதான் பத்திரிக்கைகள் மனசாட்சிக்கு பயந்து செய்தி வெளியிட போகிறீர்களோ? SWAN நிறுவனத்தை சேர்ந்த பல்வா சிபிஐ விசாரணையில் கலைஞர் டிவியுடனான தொடர்பை முழுவதும் கக்கி விட்டார். சில நாட்களுக்கு முன் சிபிஐ தனது அறிக்கையை உச்ச நீதிமன்றத்தில் சமர்பிக்கும் போது அதில் 63 நபர்களை கண்காணிக்கிறோம்.அவர்களை விசாரணைக்கு அழைத்து கைது செய்ய உள்ளோம் என்று கூறி இருந்தது. அந்த பட்டியலில் கனிமொழி 13 வது இடத்திலும் அதை தொடர்ந்து ராசாத்தி, தயாளு அனைவரும் அடக்கம். உச்ச நீதிமன்றம் தீவிரமாக கண்காணிப்பதால் இவர்களை கைது செய்வதை தவிர சிபிஐ க்கு வேறு வழி இல்லை. சிபிஐ தனது குற்ற பத்திரிக்கையை மார்ச் 31 க்குள் இறுதி வடிவம் கொடுத்து நீதிமன்றத்தில் சமர்பிக்கவேண்டும். இன்னும் சில வாரங்களில் விசாரணையை சிபிஐ முடித்தாக வேண்டிய கட்டாயத்தில் உள்ளது. எனவே மஞ்சள் துண்டு குடும்பம் திகார் ஜெயில் செல்வதை தவிர வேறு வழி இல்லை. இதை தடுக்க ஒரே ஒரு வழி தங்களுக்கு சாதகமான சிபிஐ அதிகாரியை நியமித்து தற்போதுள்ள கெடுபிடியான அதிகாரியை மாற்றுவதுதான். உச்ச நீதிமன்றத்தை மாற்ற முடியாது. இல்லை என்றால் அதையும் மாற்ற சொல்வார். அதற்கு தான் மஞ்சள் துண்டு காங்கிரசை கடுமையாக மிரட்டுகிறார். இதற்கு ஒத்து கொண்டால் நூறு சீட்டுகள் கூட கொடுக்க தயார் என்பார். ஏற்கனவே 2ஜி விவகாரத்தில் காங்கிரஸ் மற்றும் பிரதமர் போதுமான அளவு அவமான பட்டுவிட்டனர். அதோடு மட்டும் இல்லை ஊழல் கண்காணிப்பு அதிகாரி தாமசை நியமிக்க காரணம் யார் தெரியுமா? மஞ்சள் துண்டும் ராசாவும்தான். அதன் மூலம் எவ்வளவு அவமானத்தை காங்கிரஸ் மற்றும் பிரதமர் சந்தித்துள்ளார்கள். இந்திய பிரதமரை மன்னிப்பு கேட்கும் அளவுக்கு தள்ளி விட்டனர் இந்த திமுகவினர். கபில்சிபல் கொஞ்ச நாள் முன் வரை நல்ல மனுஷனத்தான் இருந்தார். அவரை கூப்பிட்டு ஊழல் இல்லை, இழப்பு இல்லை என்று அறிக்கை விட சொல்லி உச்ச நீதிமன்றத்தில் கொட்டு வாங்க வைத்தீர்கள். அன்று வாயை மூடிகிட்டு போனவர்தான். பயபுள்ளை இன்று எங்கு இருக்கிறார் என்றே தெரியவில்லை. இப்படி அனைத்து வகையிலும் திமுகவினால் கடுமையாக பாதிக்கப்பட்டது காங்கிரஸ்தான். இந்தியா முழுவதும் அனைவரும் காரிதுப்பும் அளவுக்கு பாதிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. எங்கேயும் போய் வோட்டு கேட்கமுடியாத நிலை. மற்ற மாநில காங்கிரசார் திமுகவையும், தமிழ்நாட்டு காங்கிரசையும் கேவலமாக நினைக்கும் அளவுக்கு தள்ளி விட்டனர். சும்மாவா சொன்னார் எம்ஜிஆர் "தீயசக்தி" என்று. ஒரு வாசகம் என்றாலும் திருவாசகம். மஞ்சள் துண்டை பற்றி அவர் கூறிய ஒவ்வொரு வார்த்தைகளையும் கல்வெட்டில் பொறித்து, பாட புத்தகமாக வெளியிட்டு இன்றைய மாணவர்கள் படிக்கவேண்டும்.

satchitananda
March 7th, 2011, 07:53 PM
I think this entire episode of DMK-Congress is purely enacted drama.

DMK in theory has more to lose than Congress with the failing equation. They why such bravado. (Of course Congress has nothing much in TN to lose. Even after the withdrawal, DMK'as absence is not going to be crash the UPA govt.)

I presume that diverting 2G scam from the media headlines would have been difficult without this drama. I bet that DMK and Congress will patch up without a meek squeak and become undanpirappu's again.

The firm bargain will be not based on seats(60 or 63.. thats ridiculous to even buy that argument), but whether his nth wife and daughter will be spared by CBI. Any case CBI is toothless and useless puppet agency, having released all the info about the case to the public and the culprits, how do they even dream to build a case when all the accused can wipe clean all the left over evidences.

kongutamizhan
March 7th, 2011, 08:30 PM
^^ My thoughts exactly. DMK needs congress badly than the other way round. Even if congress runs alone and wins 2-3 seats they don't have anything to lose.

I don't even think that congress will be interested in governing TN. They are safe at Delhi till 2014 and that's what matters to the G's. As mentioned in recent Savukku article (here (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=495:2011-03-06-03-18-37&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2) and here (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=501:2011-03-06-19-39-38&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2)) congress wants to return back the favour that Karunanidhi did to them in 2004 and 2009 LS elections.

Whether for good or bad congress is calling shots now and not DMK as widely perceived here. DMK is not in a position to severe ties on its terms as Minor Kunju claims here (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=500:2011-03-06-16-57-45&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2).

krishnaswamy
March 7th, 2011, 08:58 PM
Friends,
cross posting from Another thread
Both Thatha and Amma are corrupt..
Currently media is more powerful. Lot of awareness has come to the public.
People are using RTIs, PILs effectively..
So any new person comes into power, it is difficult for them to plunder it easily. So it is difficult for Amma to plunder.
Whereas, if you dont punish Thatha now by voting him again, he will plunder entire TN and it will be come "Karuna Nadu"... We all became Slaves for this family.

vs007
March 7th, 2011, 09:02 PM
So please dont ever think of supporting Thatha that he is pro for infrastructure.

But isn't infrastructure the need of the hour?

krishnaswamy
March 7th, 2011, 09:05 PM
del

gvijayan
March 7th, 2011, 09:20 PM
Friends,
cross posting from Another thread
Both Thatha and Amma are corrupt..
Currently media is more powerful. Lot of awareness has come to the public.
People are using RTIs, PILs effectively..
So any new person comes into power, it is difficult for them to plunder it easily. So it is difficult for Amma to plunder.
Whereas, if you dont punish Thatha now by voting him again, he will plunder entire TN and it will be come "Karuna Nadu"... We all became Slaves for this family.

It will again become 'KaruNaadu' - Black Region, as thaatha will surandify the remaining wealth of the state with the help of all his wives, sons, daughters, grandchildren.

ceeznic pirate
March 7th, 2011, 09:34 PM
So please dont ever think of supporting Thatha

Please dont try to influence others. Everyone has their own views.


Currently media is more powerful. Lot of awareness has come to the public.


very true except that what kind of awareness is also decided by the media.


he will plunder entire TN

If it is based on 2G, is it TN? I am more a Tamilan than an Indian.

kongutamizhan
March 7th, 2011, 09:42 PM
^^ Are you trying to say that plundering the wealth of India (as long as it's done by a Tamilian) is okay? :lol:

Subra
March 7th, 2011, 09:44 PM
^^
Apart from 2G scam, what are the other local issues at the state level?
Power situation is really an issue. It should have been resolved in 5 years if the concerned minister was efficient. Now the next govt will open all the new plants and claim credit.

satchitananda
March 7th, 2011, 09:49 PM
Please dont try to influence others. Everyone has their own views.



The only purpose of any communication is to influence.

I agree that everyone has a right to their view. I believe thats why he was expressing.

Bottom line: We need some real high quality governance from anyone who forms the next government. Hopefully with less vendetta and ego trips.

While JJ is no saint, that doesnt give the license to corrupt. This is the sickest yardstick to have. In fact, MGR came to power riding on an anti corruption plank against DMK.

Let us hope and pray that the next government, whoever it is, will place the people above the self.

ceeznic pirate
March 7th, 2011, 09:53 PM
^^
Now the next govt will open all the new plants and claim credit.

And also some threads like automobile,oragadam threads in Chennai forum can be permananently closed

kongutamizhan
March 7th, 2011, 09:54 PM
^^
Apart from 2G scam, what are the other local issues at the state level?
Power situation is really an issue. It should have been resolved in 5 years if the concerned minister was efficient. Now the next govt will open all the new plants and claim credit.

hmm where do you want to begin? from 1967 or 2006? :lol:

Okay since DMK followers tends to believe their leader's historical twists and might might not have heard about veeranam or sarkaria, and won't acknowledge that 2G is scam enough I'll start with 2006. I promise I'll just stick to state level scams. Since you already talked about electricity too I'll give you a discount so that 'thatha devotees' need not bother about defending him on that.

Let's take a baby step here and do it one by one. Which one you are comfortable talking about first? Shall we start with "Manal Kollai"?

ceeznic pirate
March 7th, 2011, 09:57 PM
^^ Are you trying to say that plundering the wealth of India (as long as it's done by a Tamilian) is okay? :lol:

You got it wrong Kongu. I am not talking about plundering the wealth of India. I just asked how he plundered the wealth of TN

satchitananda
March 7th, 2011, 09:58 PM
hmm where do you want to begin? from 1967 or 2006? :lol:


Let's take a baby step here and do it one by one. Which one you are comfortable talking about first? Shall we start with "Manal Kollai"?

Kongu.. neenga KTaa KDaaa.. ;)

ceeznic pirate
March 7th, 2011, 09:59 PM
Let's take a baby step here and do it one by one.

:popcorn:

Subra
March 7th, 2011, 10:00 PM
hmm where do you want to begin? from 1967 or 2006? :lol:

Okay since DMK followers tends to believe their leader's historical twists and might might not have heard about veeranam or sarkaria, and won't acknowledge that 2G is scam enough I'll start with 2006. I promise I'll just stick to state level scams. Since you already talked about electricity too I'll give you a discount so that 'thatha devotees' need not bother about defending him on that.

Let's take a baby step here and do it one by one. Which one you are comfortable talking about first? Shall we start with "Manal Kollai"?
Please start with manal kollai but may I request you to compare the pros/cons with Amma also to be fair ?

satchitananda
March 7th, 2011, 10:01 PM
Please start with manal kollai but may I request you to compare the pros/cons with Amma also to be fair ?


manal kollai vs pagal kollai.. aaana thatha will take the second title also..

manal kollai vs ego raani..

ceeznic pirate
March 7th, 2011, 10:23 PM
The only purpose of any communication is to influence.

I agree that everyone has a right to their view. I believe thats why he was expressing.

There is difference between influencing and expressing

There is difference between

So please dont ever think of supporting Thatha

and

"I ll ever think of supporting thatha" (like)

Bottom line: We need some real high quality governance from anyone who forms the next government. Hopefully with less vendetta and ego trips.

Let us hope and pray that the next government, whoever it is, will place the people above the self.
+100

kongutamizhan
March 7th, 2011, 10:27 PM
Please start with manal kollai but may I request you to compare the pros/cons with Amma also to be fair ?

I thought you will start the discussion :lol:

As much as I think that we would be better off without communists, when it comes to issues like this I would be the first to acknowledge their consistant fight against it..

Read the articles here (http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/16/stories/2011021661190300.htm), here (http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/cpi-total-sand-mining-ban-222) and here (http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/cpi-slams-cm-sand-mining-420) about communists protests.

In one of the above protets A.B.Baradhan asks "Just because the DMK is in power, does it mean that the kin of the ruling family can do as they like". You should know better than me now about under whose supervision things happen down south in TN :).

Now what did the DMK do to stop this!!

kongutamizhan
March 7th, 2011, 10:29 PM
There is difference between influencing and expressing

There is difference between



and

"I ll ever think of supporting thatha" (like)

Is this rationalism applicable only to anti-thathaists of the forum? Or is it akin to DMK rationalism? :lol:

kongutamizhan
March 7th, 2011, 10:42 PM
Here is the agony (http://youtubes.5aa5.com/viewOs48udn42oY&feature=youtube_gdata_player.html) :)

kongutamizhan
March 7th, 2011, 10:54 PM
Kongu.. neenga KTaa KDaaa.. ;)

KT-a mattum (Kongu tamizhanaa) irundha molaga arachittu poyiruvanuva!! Enga oorukaranga ellam konjam veguli. Adhanala than KD-thanamana KT-ya naan ennaya maathikitten :)

Mr.Nellai
March 8th, 2011, 02:22 AM
http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/832011/08032011-cni-mn-10/25259640.JPG

Mr.Nellai
March 8th, 2011, 02:40 AM
http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/832011/08032011-cni-mn-05/23951281.JPG

Mr.Nellai
March 8th, 2011, 03:02 AM
சிங்கம் களம் இறங்கிடிச்சு! இவரும் கேளம்பிட்டாரா?

Sarath Kumar enters with a big bang (with his caste identity:lol:)


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Mr.Nellai
March 8th, 2011, 03:08 AM
CBI investigation soon


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Mr.Nellai
March 8th, 2011, 03:10 AM
MDMK, communists desperate


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vs007
March 8th, 2011, 04:28 AM
If Jaya wins, the biggest winner would be this thread filled with her gargantuan antics. As some one mentioned, the rest of infrastructural threads would go into hibernation for 5 years.

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My prediction is DMK would win and Stalin would win as they have ruled better and brought industries, new assembly,Marina beach cleanup, new library, Metro rail coming up, CBE got better with Tidel Park completed at last, roads widened due to the classical meet.. The 2G Scam does not affect the TN masses who should vote for development happening in the state.

I will go on a limb here and proclaim DMK will come on top.

kongutamizhan
March 8th, 2011, 04:53 AM
My prediction is DMK would win and Stalin would win as they have ruled better and brought industries, new assembly,Marina beach cleanup, new library, Metro rail coming up, CBE got better with Tidel Park completed at last, roads widened due to the classical meet.. The 2G Scam does not affect the TN masses who should vote for development happening in the state.

I will go on a limb here and proclaim DMK will come on top.

Are CBEians and folks at rest of TN aware of it? :lol:

jaish
March 8th, 2011, 05:07 AM
KT Do you think there was no positive things in the last five years in TN ???. I am not a avid supporter of especially after their Fasting stunt during LS election. But TN sees development only during this regime during the other five years It sees only strike and New laws that will get repeal after the protest.

jaish
March 8th, 2011, 05:09 AM
Congress is taking a tough stance. They are not losing control of the situation. Long term this might help to establish a presence in TN.

It is their day dream, Look for Pondi even there they will loose their control.

jaish
March 8th, 2011, 05:17 AM
I think this entire episode of DMK-Congress is purely enacted drama.

DMK in theory has more to lose than Congress with the failing equation. They why such bravado. (Of course Congress has nothing much in TN to lose. Even after the withdrawal, DMK'as absence is not going to be crash the UPA govt.)

I feel it is other way around. Do you Think Congress can breathe freely with UP parties support at the center for next three years. It would Nithya Kandam Poorna Ayasu for Congress and Further to this their dream of reviving congress in UP will fall flat. On the other hand DMK knows very well that there is nothing in congress hand regarding 2G Scam as it is followed by Supreme court any way they need to face this and can claim they are victimised by CG for not supporting them. Further Any one feels that 2G is only done by DMK is not true surely Congress has its share in this loot.

jaish
March 8th, 2011, 05:25 AM
Following is the Article appeared in THE HINDU. Kindly comment. Why there is CBI enquiry and Public writ petition by Subramaiam swamy on this.

Corporate socialism's 2G orgy
P. Sainath

The Union budget writes off Rs.240 crore in corporate income tax every single day on average — the same amount leaves India each day in illicit fund flows to foreign banks.

In six years from 2005-06, the Government of India wrote off corporate income tax worth Rs.3,74,937 crore — more than twice the 2G fraud — in successive Union budgets. The figure has grown every single year for which data are available. Corporate income tax written off in 2005-06 was Rs.34,618 crore. In the current budget, it is Rs.88,263 crore — an increase of 155 per cent. That is, the nation presently writes off over Rs.240 crore a day on average in corporate income tax. Oddly, that is also the daily average of illicit fund flows from India to foreign banks, according to a report of the Washington-based think tank, Global Financial Integrity.

The Rs.88,263 crore covers only corporate income tax write-offs. The figure does not include revenue foregone from higher exemption limits for wider sections of the public. Nor higher exemptions for senior citizens or (as in past budgets) for women. Just income tax for the big boys of the corporate world.

Pranab Mukherjee's latest budget, while writing off this gigantic sum for corporates, slashes thousands of crores from agriculture. As R. Ramakumar of the Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) points out, the revenue expenditure on that sector “is to fall in absolute terms by Rs.5,568 crore. Within agriculture, the largest fall is to be in crop husbandry, with an absolute cut of Rs.4,477 crore.” Which probably signals the death of extension services, amongst other things, in the sector. In fact, “within economic services, the largest cuts are to be in Agriculture and Allied Services.”

Even Kapil Sibal cannot defend the revenue losses as notional. For the simple reason that each budget sums up these numbers clearly in tables within a section called ‘Statement of Revenue Foregone.' If we add to this corporate karza maafi, revenue foregone in customs and excise duty — also very largely benefiting the corporate world and better off sections of society — the amounts are stunning. What, for instance, are some of the major items on which revenue is foregone in customs duty? Try diamonds and gold. Not quite aam aadmi or aurat items. This accounts for the largest chunk of all customs revenue foregone in the current budget. That is, for Rs.48,798 crore. Or well over half of what it takes to run a universal PDS system each year. In three years preceding this one, the customs write-off on gold, diamonds and jewellery totalled Rs.95,675 crore.

Of course, this being India, every plunder of public money for private profit is a pro-poor measure. You can hear the argument already: the huge bonanza for the gold and diamond crowd was only to save the jobs of poor workers in the midst of a global economic crisis. Touching. Only it didn't save a single job in Surat or elsewhere. Many Oriya workers in that industry returned home jobless to Ganjam from Surat as the sector tanked. A few other workers took their own lives in desperation. Also, the indulgence for industry predates the 2008 crisis. Industry in Maharashtra gained massively from the Centre's Corporate Socialism. Yet, in three years before the 2008 crisis, workers in the State lost their jobs at an average of 1,800 a day.

Returning to the budget: There's also the head of ‘machinery' with its own huge customs duty concessions. That includes surely, the crores of rupees of sophisticated medical equipment imported by large corporate hospitals with almost no duty levied on it. The claim of providing 30 per cent of their beds free of charge to the poor — something that has never once happened — is an excuse to dole out these ‘benefits' (amongst others) to that multi-billion rupee industry. Total revenue foregone on customs duty in the present budget: Rs.1,74,418 crore. (Which does not include export credit-related numbers).

With excise, of course, comes the standard claim that revenues foregone on excise duty translate into lower prices for consumers. There is no evidence provided at all that this has actually happened. Not in the budget, not elsewhere. (Sounds more like the argument now making the rounds in some Tamil Nadu villages that nothing was looted in the 2G scam — that's the money translating into cheaper calls for the public). What is clearly visible is that the write-offs on excise directly benefit industry and business. Any indirect ‘passing on' to consumers is a speculative claim, not proven. Revenue foregone on account of excise duty in this budget: Rs.1,98,291 crore. Clearly more than the highest estimate of the 2G scam losses. (The preceding year: Rs.1,69,121 crore).

Also fascinating is that the same classes benefit in multiple ways from all three write-offs. But how much does revenue foregone under corporate income tax, excise and customs duty add up to across the years? We have baldly stated budget figures for six years starting 2005-06, when the total was Rs.2,29,108 crore. To the current budget where it is more than double that sum at Rs.4,60,972 crore. Add up the figures since 2005-06 and the grand total is Rs.21,25,023 crore. Or close to half a trillion U.S. dollars. That is not merely 12 times the 2G scam losses. It is equal to or bigger than the Rs.21 lakh crore sum that Global Financial Integrity tells us has been siphoned out of this country and illegally stashed away in foreign banks since 1948 ($ 462 billion). Only, this loot has happened in six years starting 2005-06. The current budget figure for these three heads is 101 per cent higher than it was in 2005-06 (see Table).

Unlike the illicit fund flows, this plunder has a fig leaf of legality. Unlike those flows, it is not the sum of many individual crimes. It is government policy. It is in the Union budget. And it is the largest conceivable transfer of wealth and resources to the wealthy and the corporate world that the media never look at. Oddly, the budget itself recognises how regressive this trend is. Last year's budget noted: “The amount of revenue foregone continues to increase year after year. As a percentage of aggregate tax collection, revenue foregone remains high and shows an increasing trend as far as corporate income tax is considered for the financial year 2008-09. In case of indirect taxes, the trend shows a significant increase for the financial years 2009-10 due to a reduction in customs and excise duties. Therefore, to reverse this trend, an expansion in the tax base is called for.”

Rewind a year further. The 2009-10 budget says the same thing in almost identical words. Only the last line is different: “Therefore it is necessary to reverse this trend to sustain the high tax buoyancy.” In the current budget, the paragraph is absent.

This is the government that has no money for a universal PDS or even an enhanced one. That cuts anyway meagre food subsidies from the largest hungry population in the planet. That, at a time of rising prices and a great food crisis. In a period when its own economic survey shows us that the daily average net per capita availability of foodgrain for the five year period 2005-09 is actually lower than it was in 1955-59 — half-a-century ago.

dhandapanik
March 8th, 2011, 05:42 AM
Are CBEians and folks at rest of TN aware of it? :lol:
Road widening works and Tamil classical meet is really good. But most of the chairs in Tamil classical meet was occupied by MK family. Many scholars praised MK rather than showing their work on classical tamil.

The same DMK govt kept their mouth shut when my home town was transferred to Palakkad divn. We got Salem divn, thats good.. At the same time why we want to give pollachi to palakkad divn? Already kanyakumari dist and Dharmapuri, Krishnagiri, hosur areas want to come out of Bangalore divn(SWR) and Trivandrum divn(SR), then why they want to transfer Madurai divn town to Palakkad divn??

We are getting rice at Rs.1 per kg but how many are using it? Huge number of bags being transferred to KL from our CBE dist itself.

2G scam.. tamilan peyara ulagariya vachuthu.. :lol:

kongutamizhan
March 8th, 2011, 07:08 AM
KT Do you think there was no positive things in the last five years in TN ???. I am not a avid supporter of especially after their Fasting stunt during LS election. But TN sees development only during this regime during the other five years It sees only strike and New laws that will get repeal after the protest.

Positive development illainu sollalai, irunda nalla irkumnu than solluren :lol:

On a serious note, not that I don't think that there are no positive developments. Definitely there are a few for selected set of people at a selected place. Other than that majority of the developments are due to natural progression. Every 5 years things are bound to get better compared to previous 5 years irrespective of who rules the state or country. My point is I don't see DMK going out-of-way doing anything for the state. Having said that, as far as the current government the negatives outweigh the positives (Strictly talking about last 5 years). The gross abuse of power, corruption and the atrocities committed by them doesn't have parallels to compare with in the post-independent India. For that reason don't you think that they deserve to be kicked in their butt?

I would agree that some "X" or "Y" did something for the state only if I see marked improvement in quality and standard of living across the board. I don't agree with the notion that Stalin is an abeled administrator. But do acknowledge that he is the best we have among current lot for Chennai. I can accept him at the max as a Mayor of Chennai, but not as CM of Tamilnadu, because he is just not good enough for rest of us. Let me put it this way so that it doesn't come out as an offence. He haven't proved himself yet as a CM material for folks outside Chennai.

NOTE: In my opinion the single solitary library and assembly building are duds and don't count as development.

dhandapanik
March 8th, 2011, 07:12 AM
Positive development illainu sollalai, irunda nalla irkumnu than solluren :lol:


A diplomatic reply.. :lol:

They need 5 years to reduce the current cut in TN? i dont think so.. Still he want to complain previous ADMK regime after completing 5 yrs as CM?? TN is purchasing power Gujarat. Once upon a time, TN sold power to other state.. Ippa nilamai veru...

Arul Murugan
March 8th, 2011, 08:22 AM
If Jaya wins, the biggest winner would be this thread filled with her gargantuan antics. As some one mentioned, the rest of infrastructural threads would go into hibernation for 5 years.

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whats the difference sir? Did they build any expressway? any mega airport? mega bridges?

Dozens of ROB(Tambaram, Pallavaram, Vandalur etc.,) opened in Chennai are 10year long project, Major flyovers at Kathipara, Padi, Madurovoyl, Koyamedu etc., are BJP gvt sanctioned projects.

Again it is only for Chennai... what about another 5.5 crores population living out of Chennai? They opened only toilets, halfbaked buildings etc.,

DMK projects are just bullets "world class" will reach people through their mass media both on TV and papers... they are just paper projects. :nuts:

If ADMK was having a mass media like Sun TV, Kalaignar TV(even ADMK cadres don't see Jaya TV) and major tamil dailies their paper projects also will reach the people.

Both the parties are same in the case of infrastructure! No difference...

etho chennai la irunthu singaporeku thatha bullet train vitta mathiri, dmk infra admk infra oda super nu certificate tharangappa.:lol:

Arul Murugan
March 8th, 2011, 08:29 AM
NOTE: In my opinion the single solitary library and assembly building are duds and don't count as development.

You forgot IT parks at CBE/Madurai/Trichy and Nellai.. Super specialty hospital at Salem:nuts:

athellam kalayana mandapama use panna solla sollunga 100% works complete pannura varaikkum, marriage halls ku romba demand vara summer la.:lol:

CBE_Poonakutty
March 8th, 2011, 08:47 AM
My prediction is DMK would win and Stalin would win

I cant talk for other regions, but I can assure you in the west, they wont even get to double digits of the 50 odd seats available.

new assembly
Waste of tax payer money

Marina beach cleanup, new library.

Acceptable, but hardly enough to show for 5 years.

Metro rail coming up

With even Jaipur getting one, do you think this is an "achievement"? If Cbe and Mdu had got one, then it would have been termed an achievement. Dont say JJ scuttled Chennai metro. That time only Delhi had it and it was a brand new unknown concept. Anyway she was going for a massive monorail.

, CBE got better with Tidel Park completed at last

:lol::lol: Have you visited it? So cheesy, so small, a private company could have built it in 10 months. Infact the govt owes an apology for embarrassing Cbe.

roads widened due to the classical meet..

2 km of road widening does not justify 380 crores. It was just party propaganda with tax payer money.

The 2G Scam does not affect the TN masses


Yeah because TN people are living outside India right?

As KT and Arul said, the investment gets better every 5 years simply because the country is growing. I bet 2001-2006 investment would have been definitely higher than 96-01. Regarding closure of oragadam thread, FYI ford and Hyundai came in JJ period. If someone made the breakthrough critical investment flowing then it is JJ (I am not saying it was due to her but I definitely cant accept DMK brought more investment - it is just an illusion caused by Sun TV)

I wouldnt care to waste my time here if this election was like 2001 or 2006. But this is like 96. Back then, JJ needed to be taught a lesson. As Rajni said, if she comes again, even god wont be able to save TN. That sentence now applies to DMK. It is no more "both are same - there are no good politicians" crap. DMK has gone too far and has to be put on a leash just like JJ back then. More than ADMK winning, DMK has to lose this election and there is only one realistic way that is going to happen - ADMK winning. I dont know if you reside in TN but most "residents" feel the same way. So ADMK is definitely going to win this one.

CBE_Poonakutty
March 8th, 2011, 09:00 AM
Dont even get me started on power situation,
treatment of SL Tamils,
cornering the film industry,
real estate mafia,
law and order particularly in south and west TN,
continued apathy of railways (we have 25% electrification and Kerala has 60%),
cement and manal mafia,
abusing power to get deals in telecommunication, satellite tv, air lines (remember AI was kicked out of MAA-CL sector just before SJ started their operations??),
causing unrest in the SPD-Oragadam industrial belt (these people rule both SG and CG - who are they protesting to?? That was just to blackmail the industries)
building flyovers exclusively in Chennai - that too most of them around their home, etc etc. These are things that they should or should not have done. If I start with what the govt could or could not have done, it will take an entire day.

We have tax on essential goods that even the poorest of the poor buy but no entertainment tax on films in the garb of "promoting Tamil". Any one here really convinced that foregoing entertainment tax was to promote Tamil and not his own family?? Please stand up.

jaish
March 8th, 2011, 09:16 AM
Positive development illainu sollalai, irunda nalla irkumnu than solluren :lol:

On a serious note, not that I don't think that there are no positive developments. Definitely there are a few for selected set of people at a selected place. Other than that majority of the developments are due to natural progression. Every 5 years things are bound to get better compared to previous 5 years irrespective of who rules the state or country. My point is I don't see DMK going out-of-way doing anything for the state. Having said that, as far as the current government the negatives outweigh the positives (Strictly talking about last 5 years). The gross abuse of power, corruption and the atrocities committed by them doesn't have parallels to compare with in the post-independent India. For that reason don't you think that they deserve to be kicked in their butt?

I would agree that some "X" or "Y" did something for the state only if I see marked improvement in quality and standard of living across the board. I don't agree with the notion that Stalin is an abeled administrator. But do acknowledge that he is the best we have among current lot for Chennai. I can accept him at the max as a Mayor of Chennai, but not as CM of Tamilnadu, because he is just not good enough for rest of us. Let me put it this way so that it doesn't come out as an offence. He haven't proved himself yet as a CM material for folks outside Chennai.

NOTE: In my opinion the single solitary library and assembly building are duds and don't count as development.

I think your angry on DMK is a result of your envy on Chennai's growth. I dis agree with you regarding your claim of step mother treatment of other parts in Tamilnadu by SG government. Power abuse was there and will there more in Jaya's rule for examble is Foster son marriage, Kanja Cases against foes. But I think were some initiation for spreading of development across tamilnadu in the lost five years which may bore fruit in near future. Karur Textile park, IT complexes , Small ports, Power Projects, Nanguneri Park, Perambulur Park. Ofcourse there are so many things has to be done. we as people of Tamilnadu has to force the next goverment to do.

Anniyan
March 8th, 2011, 10:38 AM
majority of the developments are due to natural progression. Every 5 years things are bound to get better compared to previous 5 years irrespective of who rules the state or country.

True. Glad atleast there is one person in this forum who have understood this.

I don't agree with the notion that Stalin is an abeled administrator. But do acknowledge that he is the best we have among current lot for Chennai. I can accept him at the max as a Mayor of Chennai, but not as CM of Tamilnadu, because he is just not good enough for rest of us.

I think current Mayor Ma.Subramaniyan is doing a good job. Hope gets a second chance.

Anniyan
March 8th, 2011, 11:01 AM
My prediction is DMK would win and Stalin would win as they have ruled better and brought industries, new assembly,Marina beach cleanup, new library, Metro rail coming up, CBE got better with Tidel Park completed at last, roads widened due to the classical meet.. The 2G Scam does not affect the TN masses who should vote for development happening in the state.

I will go on a limb here and proclaim DMK will come on top

Industries, Tidel park, Road widening etc wont bring votes (in India).

New Assembly, Marina beautification, new library will not bring votes and even DMK wudnt speak about these projects in their election campaign.

Metro Rail - Yes it would bring vote in Chennai when its running, not now.

Spectures - Wont affect the DMK. People might feel jealous that they were able to loot several lakh of crores but they wont see it as a wrong thing (that too it was done in the Central Govt, so not a big problem). Thats the curreny mentality of our people.

The main factors that helped DMK & Congress to get vote in the Lok sabha election was the rural job guarantee scheme, loan waiver schemes, self-help groups etc. I dont think the bribe given to voters was the main factor for DMK-Congress victory, it was a consolation made by the opponent parties.

Leo_r
March 8th, 2011, 11:05 AM
Different Strokes - Elevating and Sunny...

Reference to my post in Salem thread, for those who love joy,brightness and hope.

A friend of mine recently went from Bangalore to Kanyakumari - she says there's a WORLD of difference between the infrastructure of Karnataka vs Tamil Nadu - TN has gone generations ahead - in terms of quality of life, as well as development - in roads, power, etc.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=72322557&postcount=82

Dude - I'm not stating something out of thin air. I'm FROM Karnataka - and I'm Praising TN !! Lets give them credit where credit is due !! - TN is ahead of Karnataka in each of the following:

1) Roads - TN roads - both Rural and Urban have undergone a sea-change. Most of SH's in Karnataka are decrepit.

2) Power - TN has become the first state in the country that has allowed the Power industry to directly approach the govt for all clearances, including environmental. This is an acknowledgment that govt involvement only causes delays - and this is leading to a slew of projects taking off - especially on TN coast. It takes DECADES to get a power project off in Karnataka - the UMPP in Karnataka is a joke - first Karwar, then Tadri then kudgi ... even that isn't 100% certain!! Cogentrix packed up and went off because they got tired of paying bribes and got no result! Our mainstay - Raichur - is literally falling apart!! We're not ADDING capacity - we're LOSING what we have. I get the old BIHAR deja vu here!!

3) Health care - TN along with Gujarat has the most advanced health care in the country. Karnataka doesn't even feature.

This is a small list - we can do apples-to-apples by looking at each sector!

All WE have to show for ourselves is services, which other states are now catching up

govt focusing on very specific sections unlike TN which is targeting the WHOLE state!!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=72374903&postcount=86

I recently made two road trips thru' various cities in TN. I was astounded at the progress, prosperity, literacy ....

Ved Vedamanikam Austin, TX

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=73596483&postcount=3334

Subra
March 8th, 2011, 11:45 AM
Road widening works and Tamil classical meet is really good. But most of the chairs in Tamil classical meet was occupied by MK family. Many scholars praised MK rather than showing their work on classical tamil.

The same DMK govt kept their mouth shut when my home town was transferred to Palakkad divn. We got Salem divn, thats good.. At the same time why we want to give pollachi to palakkad divn? Already kanyakumari dist and Dharmapuri, Krishnagiri, hosur areas want to come out of Bangalore divn(SWR) and Trivandrum divn(SR), then why they want to transfer Madurai divn town to Palakkad divn??

We are getting rice at Rs.1 per kg but how many are using it? Huge number of bags being transferred to KL from our CBE dist itself.

2G scam.. tamilan peyara ulagariya vachuthu.. :lol:

Coimbatore always votes for amma but what amma did to improve Coimbatore's infrastructure in her 2 terms? She didn't bring TIDEL park, she didn't initiate airport expansion. In fact, when the IT industries were fast expanding into the hinderlands of Karnataka (Mysore, Managalore), CBE should have been markedted from TN. Not sure exactly what amma did to Coimbatore that Thatha did't do.

On your comment on 2G - How about politicians from other states? Saints? Do you see Singapores around you? TN's health and socail infrastructure is one of the best in the country based on various surveys. The educated elite in ISRO is involved in a bigger scam. Why no publicity for it?

Anniyan
March 8th, 2011, 11:53 AM
I wouldnt care to waste my time here if this election was like 2001 or 2006. But this is like 96. Back then, JJ needed to be taught a lesson. As Rajni said, if she comes again, even god wont be able to save TN. That sentence now applies to DMK. It is no more "both are same - there are no good politicians" crap. DMK has gone too far and has to be put on a leash just like JJ back then. More than ADMK winning, DMK has to lose this election and there is only one realistic way that is going to happen - ADMK winning. I dont know if you reside in TN but most "residents" feel the same way. So ADMK is definitely going to win this one.

I ve few tips for ADMK front to win the election.

Avoid making personal attacks on MK & his family.

Tell people what it will do if it comes to power - like freebies, payrise for govt servants, schemes for industries (textile, SMEs etc) that employs many people (voters).

Talk about rising food prices & Corruption at local levels.

Subra
March 8th, 2011, 11:55 AM
Industries, Tidel park, Road widening etc wont bring votes (in India).

New Assembly, Marina beautification, new library will not bring votes and even DMK wudnt speak about these projects in their election campaign.

Metro Rail - Yes it would bring vote in Chennai when its running, not now.

Spectures - Wont affect the DMK. People might feel jealous that they were able to loot several lakh of crores but they wont see it as a wrong thing (that too it was done in the Central Govt, so not a big problem). Thats the curreny mentality of our people.

The main factors that helped DMK & Congress to get vote in the Lok sabha election was the rural job guarantee scheme, loan waiver schemes, self-help groups etc. I dont think the bribe given to voters was the main factor for DMK-Congress victory, it was a consolation made by the opponent parties.
Very true. Industries, TIDEL parks don't count much. The rural population looks at things on a day to day basis. Rural job schemes, hut replacement schemes etc will get votes.

Subra
March 8th, 2011, 11:59 AM
I don't agree with the notion that Stalin is an abeled administrator. But do acknowledge that he is the best we have among current lot for Chennai. I can accept him at the max as a Mayor of Chennai, but not as CM of Tamilnadu, because he is just not good enough for rest of us. Let me put it this way so that it doesn't come out as an offence. He haven't proved himself yet as a CM material for folks outside Chennai.
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We have seen amma for 10 years. She is an extra-constitutional authority. Combined with that mannarkudi mafia, TN will progress overtaking Gujarat. She is a great proven CM material :)

Arul Murugan
March 8th, 2011, 12:04 PM
I cant talk for other regions, but I can assure you in the west, they wont even get to double digits of the 50 odd seats available.




My prediction is also the same. Coimbatore, Tiruppur, Erode, Namakkal and Karur will again go to ADMK basket, Salem/Dharmapuri/Krishnagiri will also go to ADMK basket except PMK strong constituiencies.

Subra
March 8th, 2011, 12:06 PM
True. Glad atleast there is one person in this forum who have understood this.
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Natural progression?? When TN was loosing every single auto investment to Maha (e.g. M and M-Navistar, Volkswagen etc), people were cribbing in TN forums.
In the last 4 years, we got M and M, Renault-Nissan, Daimler, Ashok Leyland-Nissan etc. The Ultra-Mega-Auto policy was published by the current govt.
Also with Maran's support, check the list of electronic manufacturing industries that are dotting Sri-orgadam corridor. This is not natural progression. It was an achievement.
People will again crib for the next 5 years regarding industries for sure.

jaish
March 8th, 2011, 12:08 PM
Very true. Industries, TIDEL parks don't count much. The rural population looks at things on a day to day basis. Rural job schemes, hut replacement schemes etc will get votes.

To make them count we need to conduct election in outside India or Tamilnadu. As most of the benefitted through these have moved away from Tamilnadu. This is what happened during 2001 Election

Arul Murugan
March 8th, 2011, 12:13 PM
. Not sure exactly what amma did to Coimbatore that Thatha did't do.



You can get the answer from entrepreneurs/small scale business people in Western TN belt and especially Coimbatore to know which government is favourable for running their business! You will get the answer....

Subra
March 8th, 2011, 12:25 PM
You can get the answer from entrepreneurs/small scale business people in Western TN belt and especially Coimbatore to know which government is favourable for running their business! You will get the answer....

In terms of infrastructure, airport, bringing new industries, what was ADMK's contribution to Coimbatore? Did amma resolved railway issues? Why IT park was never initiated during her tenure?

Arul Murugan
March 8th, 2011, 12:44 PM
Natural progression?? When TN was loosing every single auto investment to Maha (e.g. M and M-Navistar, Volkswagen etc), people were cribbing in TN forums.
In the last 4 years, we got M and M, Renault-Nissan, Daimler, Ashok Leyland-Nissan etc. The Ultra-Mega-Auto policy was published by the current govt.
Also with Maran's support, check the list of electronic manufacturing industries that are dotting Sri-orgadam corridor. This is not natural progression. It was an achievement.
People will again crib for the next 5 years regarding industries for sure.

So you mean to say that the FDI during 2001-2006 is "ONLY" due to MK family members? FYKI TN was maintaining 3 or 4th rank in FDI even in 2001-2006.

Rama rules or Ravana rules, the growth of the state will be in same curve, we didn't see any steep downfall or steep growth in either of the rule.

Subra
March 8th, 2011, 12:49 PM
So you mean to say that the FDI during 2001-2006 is "ONLY" due to MK family members? FYKI TN was maintaining 3 or 4th rank in FDI even in 2001-2006.

Rama rules or Ravana rules, the growth of the state will be in same curve, we didn't see any steep downfall or steep growth in either of the rule.

I dis-agree. To be fair, Amma is good for law and order, bold decision making etc but bad for industrial growth. Thatha is better than amma (i didn't say good) for industrial growth.
TN saw a strong growth in investments in the last 4 years. It will be much less compared to mineral rich states for obvious reasons. The industrial policies on automobiles, IT, small scale-micro sector etc is a positive step.

Arul Murugan
March 8th, 2011, 12:51 PM
In terms of infrastructure, airport, bringing new industries, what was ADMK's contribution to Coimbatore? Did amma resolved railway issues? Why IT park was never initiated during her tenure?

As everyone knows Airports, Railways comes under central government. When DMK was enjoying the CG portfolios for past 10years, what did they do?

Just marking 3 lanes for Avinashi road does not make any pride for DMK that they are the infrastructure savior of Coimbatore. Yes they did some goodies for CBE in the name of Tamil conferance because of their worst defeat in LS election 2009.

Both the gvt failed to make enough infrastructure, when one of the gvt makes a favourable environment for business, people are bound to vote for that party.

Subra
March 8th, 2011, 12:53 PM
As everyone knows Airports, Railways comes under central government. When DMK was enjoying the CG portfolios for past 10years, what did they do?

Just marking 3 lanes for Avinashi road does not make any pride for DMK that they are the infrastructure savior of Coimbatore. Yes they did some goodies for CBE in the name of Tamil conferance because of their worst defeat in LS election 2009.

Both the gvt failed to make enough infrastructure, when one of the gvt makes a favourable environment for business, people are bound to vote for that party.

I am not still getting the contributions of ADMK to Coimbatore. I am only hearing what DMK didn't do for Coimbatore.

Arasu
March 8th, 2011, 12:58 PM
^^ soodana, suvaiyana vivadhangal ... thodarattum.

CBE_Poonakutty
March 8th, 2011, 01:03 PM
I am not still getting the contributions of ADMK to Coimbatore. I am only hearing what DMK didn't do for Coimbatore.

First and foremost - power. You have to understand that Cbe, tirupur, Palani, Kangeyam is basically 100's of small, medium and micro scale industries stitched together competing with the world. We simply cannot be successful in the cut throat world industry if we have 4-6 hours of forced shut down. There was no power cut in ADMK

Law and order: Maybe you have no idea how much the small businessmen are harassed. It is not that it was not in ADMK period but it was much less, much much less. Lot of kidnaps are not even reported.

I think these two are enough to convince you. I can give a lot more though.

Arul Murugan
March 8th, 2011, 01:13 PM
I am not still getting the contributions of ADMK to Coimbatore. I am only hearing what DMK didn't do for Coimbatore.

Does this not answer?

Both the gvt failed to make enough infrastructure, when one of the gvt makes a favourable environment for business, people are bound to vote for that party.

I never claims development (investment/infra) happens or can happen only in particular gvt.

Development perception differs from individual

1. New bridges, flyovers, buildings, roads is termed as development.
2. New industries, investment
3. Favourable condition for running the existing business is also development.

Majority of business population in TN will fall under the 3rd category and not in 1&2.

Sampathkumar
March 8th, 2011, 01:19 PM
First and foremost - power. You have to understand that Cbe, tirupur, Palani, Kangeyam is basically 100's of small, medium and micro scale industries stitched together competing with the world. We simply cannot be successful in the cut throat world industry if we have 4-6 hours of forced shut down. There was no power cut in ADMK

Law and order: Maybe you have no idea how much the small businessmen are harassed. It is not that it was not in ADMK period but it was much less, much much less. Lot of kidnaps are not even reported.

I think these two are enough to convince you. I can give a lot more though.

To me, both ADMK & DMK are same. No difference when they are ruling. No foresights.
For power shortage, we cannot blame DMK alone. What ADMK has done in 2001-2006?.
ADMK Ministry also unreliable... Madam will bring any crap into the ministry and she will send out good performer any time..

Subra
March 8th, 2011, 01:19 PM
First and foremost - power. You have to understand that Cbe, tirupur, Palani, Kangeyam is basically 100's of small, medium and micro scale industries stitched together competing with the world. We simply cannot be successful in the cut throat world industry if we have 4-6 hours of forced shut down. There was no power cut in ADMK

Law and order: Maybe you have no idea how much the small businessmen are harassed. It is not that it was not in ADMK period but it was much less, much much less. Lot of kidnaps are not even reported.

I think these two are enough to convince you. I can give a lot more though.

Please go to the power thread and see the list of projects initiated by the current govt and compare it with the previous govt. Because of the inefficient power minister from the current govt, the projects couldn't start generation. I admit that. But previous govt didn't initiate major projects and that costed us dearly. Now the new govt will open the plants and will claim credit. People's memory is very short and see things only for the last 3-4 years.

Subra
March 8th, 2011, 01:22 PM
Does this not answer?

Both the gvt failed to make enough infrastructure, when one of the gvt makes a favourable environment for business, people are bound to vote for that party.

I never claims development (investment/infra) happens or can happen only in particular gvt.

Development perception differs from individual

1. New bridges, flyovers, buildings, roads is termed as development.
2. New industries, investment
3. Favourable condition for running the existing business is also development.

Majority of business population in TN will fall under the 3rd category and not in 1&2.

We need 1 and 2 also for the youth population. Once the power situation is solved, things will be good for Coimbatore regardless of who comes to power.

dhandapanik
March 8th, 2011, 01:28 PM
In terms of infrastructure, airport, bringing new industries, what was ADMK's contribution to Coimbatore? Did amma resolved railway issues? Why IT park was never initiated during her tenure?

Just because we got good airport and IT park(which is yet to start functioning) can we say DMK has done great to CBE?

I dont want to comment on railways. Because most of us know about SR work in CBE and even TN.

Did you know how many SMEs are crying in Coimbatore, Tirpur, Erode and other areas because of Power cuts? It is the SMEs which generates more employment for normal people. CM says we are giving 24 hr current to agri related works.. Is that real?? SMEs are forced to buy generators because of power cuts. If we get 24 hrs power then Coimbatore, Tirupur and Erode areas can grow better. Coimbatore and Tirupur areas give more employment to normal people. So if power cut continues, then we will lose all those jobs.

Coming to roads.. Most of the roads that were laid recently are going bad.. Before completing 1 year itself it is gone. Is that the quality you want??

Keeping tamil name to a film alone will grow tamil? They gave considerable amount of land to film technicians.. Instead they could have given the same to good amount of people who practice Tamil folk arts.. நாட்டுப்புற கலைகள் அழியும் நாள் வெகு தூரத்தில் இல்லை. Help those people to save that folk arts.

doccbe
March 8th, 2011, 01:29 PM
My dad who runs a small scale textile industry in western TN always says that it is very easy to do business with ADMK than DMK as Arul pointed it out rightly. An IT park is nothing when compared to the loss incurred by business people in western TN. Airport expansion was not thought of because the air traffic raised recently only and there was no requirement of expansion during ADMK rule. The plans announced by DMK in CBE are nothing when compared to the loss in small scale business. Also ADMK contribution to Chennai has been argued many times in the thread.