Just because we got good airport and IT park(which is yet to start functioning) can we say DMK has done great to CBE?

I dont want to comment on railways. Because most of us know about SR work in CBE and even TN.

Did you know how many SMEs are crying in Coimbatore, Tirpur, Erode and other areas because of Power cuts? It is the SMEs which generates more employment for normal people. CM says we are giving 24 hr current to agri related works.. Is that real?? SMEs are forced to buy generators because of power cuts. If we get 24 hrs power then Coimbatore, Tirupur and Erode areas can grow better. Coimbatore and Tirupur areas give more employment to normal people. So if power cut continues, then we will lose all those jobs.

Coming to roads.. Most of the roads that were laid recently are going bad.. Before completing 1 year itself it is gone. Is that the quality you want??

Keeping tamil name to a film alone will grow tamil? They gave considerable amount of land to film technicians.. Instead they could have given the same to good amount of people who practice Tamil folk arts.. நாட்டுப்புற கலைகள் அழியும் நாள் வெகு தூரத்தில் இல்லை. Help those people to save that folk arts.

I agree with you on power problem but see my response on power projects. What was done by ADMK to solve power crisis? The current govt has at least started many power projects.
Also why ADMK is not protesting the ill-treatment on the railway front? Why can't amma undertake a fast to bring attention if she really cares for the city?

I agree with you on power problem but see my response on power projects. What was done by ADMK to solve power crisis? The current govt has at least started many power projects.
Also why ADMK is not protesting the ill-treatment on the railway front? Why can't amma undertake a fast to bring attention if she really cares for the city?

ADMK should also be blammed. At the same time, Do you need 5 yrs to complete a power project?? Just think it. Evlo thiruttu current edukuranga theriuma?

Bring back Entertainment tax. If Tamil films need entertainment tax to be waived off, then put more conditions like shooting should happen only in India, No Masala movies etc etc.,

^^Blaming DMK government for Powercut is purly political...

Do you need 5 yrs to complete a power project

yes need atleast 5 years to scratch from dust...

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
Arumai arumai... DMK va ila ADMK va?
Ana oru nalaiku 4-5 pakkangal oduthu, padika mudiyala pa :(

Like these fights will never end and I have a sincere request for you guys. Enadu miga thazhmayana vendugol:
DMK/ADMK visuvasigale, please do this and help us to choose the right government

DMK guys:
1) Please list out all the positives that happened from 2006-2011 (only +ves) (If you are proud and term that building assembly complex as an achievement, so be it, please list them as well)
2) List down your election agenda/propaganda like "naangal meendum aatchikku vandhaaaaaal"
3) What went wrong during 2001-2005 when ADMK were in power (-ves only)

ADMK Guys:

1) Please list out all the negatives that happened from 2006-2011 (only -ves)
2) List down your election agenda/propaganda like "naangal aatchikku vandhal"
3) What were your achievements from 2001-2005 when you ruled?

Instead of showing hands on each other, list down everything and it is upto the educated forumers/people to choose one

I dis-agree. To be fair, Amma is good for law and order, bold decision making etc but bad for industrial growth. Thatha is better than amma (i didn't say good) for industrial growth.
TN saw a strong growth in investments in the last 4 years. It will be much less compared to mineral rich states for obvious reasons. The industrial policies on automobiles, IT, small scale-micro sector etc is a positive step.

I just thought of adding a purely apolitical thought.

Chennai has been evolving based on its strengths. It is true it has never caught up to a fraction of its potential. When we say fave industrial policy, existing industrial ecosystem also plays a major factor - be it infrastructure like ports or existing big names like Ford/Hyundai or a viable base. Having said that the incentives announced by the government play a role.

For example, M&M may announce some major plans for Cheyyar. Thats a combination of all the factors and not purely DMK or ADMK policy.

One of the 2G issues if I understood correctly is, there were crores exchanged to get a license and also overlook the limitations of the applicant. In one (weird) sense this can be argued as fostering industrial growth.

If Amma wins, I would like :

- Keep her ego aside and also the useless middleman (Jalras and party strongmen) around aside from governance.
-Minimize personal vendetta with thatha family (Unless she really stumbles upon some reliable info involving hundreds of crores)
-Focus on some visionary plan for all parts of TN (Kongu Desam included.. ;) )
-Create a second tier of strong visionary leadership in her party, so that its not only about her all the time.
-Remember scams have cost many legacies. So cut extravaganze and see if you can tap into your potential and leave a lasting legacy.

If Thatha wins, I would like :

- Realize that we all have to kick the bucket one day - sooner or later.. so given up collecting wealth in proxy names
-Stop coming up with useless freebie schemes
- Kill Tasmac
-Think of TN as your family, because we know how tirelessly you facilitate your family interests. So take the concept of Udanpirappu to its heart.
- If Stalin comes up as next CM, stay as a visionary and also act on it. Let it not be like Cooum manakkum idea.. let it be in action..


In short for either parties.. "Your action speaks so loud that I cant hear what you are saying"

SOURCE: http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article1519956.ece

The Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam on Tuesday conceded 63 seats for the Congress under a seat-sharing deal between the two parties for the coming Tamil Nadu Assembly elections, ending three days of political drama.

The leadership of the DMK and the Congress have finally decided on the number of seats and the Congress will contest 63 seats, announced Ghulam Nabi Azad to reporters outside the residence of Congress cheif Sonia Gandhi.

The demand of 63 seats by Congress marks an increase of 15 seats over the number it got in the 2006 Assembly elections and a number that was frowned upon by the DMK cheif M. Karunanidhi when he announced pull out of the party from the UPA government on Saturday.

The deal was announced after DMK Union Minister Dayanidhi Maran held two rounds talks with senior Congress leader Pranab Mukherjee in Parliament House during which Mr. Azad and Ms. Gandhi’s Political Secretary Ahmed Patel was also present.

Emerging from the meeting a beaming Mr. Maran, accompanied by Union Minister M.K. Alagiri, and Congress leaders drove to Ms. Gandhi’s residence to thank her for the deal on behalf of the DMK leadership.

The DMK had on Saturday announced the pullout of its six Ministers from the Union Council of Ministers and offered issued-based support accusing the Congress of making attempts to push it out of the coalition.

On Friday night, Mr. Karunanidhi had accused the Congress of being unreasonable by escalating the demand for seats from 50 to 53 to 57 and then to 60. And after agreeing to settle for 60, the party later raised the demand to 63, he had complained.

But it was not clear whether there has been any agreement between the two parties on conceding to the Congress demand for its choice of constituencies and power sharing after the elections.

It was also not disclosed whether the Congress would get the extra three seats from the DMK or from the quota of other allies like Muslim League, the Pattali Makkal Katchi, the Viduthalai Chiruthaigal Katchi and the Kongunadu Munntera Kazhagam.

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What has not been disclosed is the fact that Congress will foul the CBI case on Kani and Thatha's wife..:bash:

I am a noob with regard to politics but i'll do my part

DMK:
1) Free tv, pro business ministries/policies, anna library, new parks, movie ticket rates
2)Dont know
3)Starting tasmac

My prediction is also the same. Coimbatore, Tiruppur, Erode, Namakkal and Karur will again go to ADMK basket, Salem/Dharmapuri/Krishnagiri will also go to ADMK basket except PMK strong constituiencies.

Now we should count on the Kongu party, how it is going to change the fortunes of ADMK/DMK.

If DMK gives cbe/other western constituencies to Congress, it is going to be thrown out for sure. Also if ADMK gives it to the useless CPM, we should kick those fellows from cbe soil.

Please talk about other regions as well - not just Chennai and Coimbatore/Western TN!

SOURCE: http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article1519956.ece
What has not been disclosed is the fact that Congress will foul the CBI case on Kani and Thatha's wife..:bash:

If we don't hear anything in the next week or so, we can be sure this was part of the deal. Karunanidhi would have made a brilliant chess player.

If we don't hear anything in the next week or so, we can be sure this was part of the deal. Karunanidhi would have made a brilliant chess player.

What he cannot checkmate is his own Karma. :D

Please talk about other regions as well - not just Chennai and Coimbatore/Western TN!

நாட்டாம! தீர்ப்ப மாத்தி சொல்லு!!

Please talk about other regions as well - not just Chennai and Coimbatore/Western TN!

Participate:)

Azhudha pullakku than paalu. Vaanga sernthu azhuvom :lol:

Super specialty hospital at Salem:nuts:


Are you talking about government hospital? What is that about?

athellam kalayana mandapama use panna solla sollunga

:rofl:

Heard from an ex-collegue of mine that wish he had taken a petromax for the TIDEL park tour that he had once. Completely makes sense that it will make good profit as a marriage hall than an IT park.

Attn: Subra / VS,

You folks are including lots of JNNURM projects and projects initiated as a part of NHAI and during BJP governments and showing that as DMK's achievements. Plus more than half of WTC work done @ CBE are not funded by state government FYI.

Jaya initiated the Sri-Oragadam corridor. Automobile industries started its presence in Chennai because of her. (The sector grew in Chennai only because of its strength and not because of her or DMK. I am stating this just to set the record straight).

Participate:)

Azhudha pullakku than paalu. Vaanga sernthu azhuvom :lol:

This looks more like Oppari...Olam...

If DMK/ADMK comes..

We want
1. 24 hrs power.. Three phase in both HT and LT. Not just single phase..
2. Very good industrial policy..
3. Make all TIDEL parks functioning. Not just building is fine.
4. Roads with better quality.
5. Improve TNSTCs.. :)
6. No freebies plss..
7. Close TASMAC shops near to educational institutions, Religious places, BS, RS etc.,

Atleast 1/2 points in the above list will happen? But 1st is must.

Please go to the power thread and see the list of projects initiated by the current govt and compare it with the previous govt. Because of the inefficient power minister from the current govt, the projects couldn't start generation. I admit that. But previous govt didn't initiate major projects and that costed us dearly. Now the new govt will open the plants and will claim credit. People's memory is very short and see things only for the last 3-4 years.

No thanks. I will prefer power in the current kambi rather than on paper. JJ atleast made sure there was no power cut. She bought current from other utilities using gajana money instead of giving tv sets. Bottom line is there was no current cut in 01-06.

Seriously, 70000 MW?? Engala paatha loosu maathiri irukka? 1000 MW kooda add pannala, ivanga 70000 MW ku adikal naatunaanga nu sonna naanga nambidanuma. Did you know that India as a whole would add only 63000 MW in 11 five year plan? why the hell should I care how much they started? Finishing is what is important.

Chennai la irukaravungalukku mattum enna komba molachu irukku? Why Chennai has no power cut when everyone takes 4-6 hrs cut? You can call me jealous or whatever crap you like but let me burst your bubble - you are doing that because you people simply cannot justify that in any other bloody way. That is the only "explanation" that you can give.

These people are sitting cosily in both Delhi and Chennai and not doing anything about the railway apathy but you want JJ to fast. What kind of logic is that?

All these "DMK is good for industry and ADMK is bad" talk is BS. If anyone is anti industry (except industries owned by them), it is DMK. If you say ADMK lost Volkswagen, then can I go to Pune thread and copy paste all the projects which went there in the last 5 years as "projects lost" by DMK, will you accept? Big companies look for many locations before deciding. Does that mean the SG lost it? If ford moves to GJ tomorrow, will you accept it was due to DMK? How can industries operate without power? This illusion is created by sun TV and gullible people are just falling for it. If you know any "industrialist" by person, go and ask him who he prefers.

And M4M, Please dont call me ADMK visuvaasi, I am just an ordinary college girl who is going to vote for the first time and I have no illusion who I am going to vote. If ADMK behaves badly, I wont hesitate a moment to call their bluff. A lot of people here is not doing the same thing. They come with a pre conceived notion blinded by dmk's flashy propaganda machine refusing to see the reality. Either they live outside the state or live in some ivory tower or they are party people.

No thanks. I will prefer power in the current kambi rather than on paper. JJ atleast made sure there was no power cut. She bought current from other utilities using gajana money instead of giving tv sets. Bottom line is there was no current cut in 01-06.

Seriously, 70000 MW?? Engala paatha loosu maathiri irukka? 1000 MW kooda add pannala, ivanga 70000 MW ku adikal naatunaanga nu sonna naanga nambidanuma. Did you know that India as a whole would add only 63000 MW in 11 five year plan? why the hell should I care how much they started? Finishing is what is important.

Chennai la irukaravungalukku mattum enna komba molachu irukku? Why Chennai has no power cut when everyone takes 4-6 hrs cut? You can call me jealous or whatever crap you like but let me burst your bubble - you are doing that because you people simply cannot justify that in any other bloody way. That is the only "explanation" that you can give.

These people are sitting cosily in both Delhi and Chennai and not doing anything about the railway apathy but you want JJ to fast. What kind of logic is that?

All these "DMK is good for industry and ADMK is bad" talk is BS. If anyone is anti industry (except industries owned by them), it is DMK. If you say ADMK lost Volkswagen, then can I go to Pune thread and copy paste all the projects which went there in the last 5 years as "projects lost" by DMK, will you accept? Big companies look for many locations before deciding. Does that mean the SG lost it? If ford moves to GJ tomorrow, will you accept it was due to DMK? How can industries operate without power? This illusion is created by sun TV and gullible people are just falling for it. If you know any "industrialist" by person, go and ask him who he prefers.

And M4M, Please dont call me ADMK visuvaasi, I am just an ordinary college girl who is going to vote for the first time and I have no illusion who I am going to vote. If ADMK behaves badly, I wont hesitate a moment to call their bluff. A lot of people here is not doing the same thing. They come with a pre conceived notion blinded by dmk's flashy propaganda machine refusing to see the reality. Either they live outside the state or live in some ivory tower or they are party people.

Stunning!!!

Please talk about other regions as well - not just Chennai and Coimbatore/Western TN!

Why to trichy/madurai or other TN as well.. Neengalum vaanga.. :)

Madurai didnt even had one govt engineering college.. Does anyone know about that?? Still we have a big powerhouse in madurai..

Trichy - Heard that BHEL is searching for land outsite TN..

No thanks. I will prefer power in the current kambi rather than on paper. JJ atleast made sure there was no power cut. She bought current from other utilities using gajana money instead of giving tv sets. Bottom line is there was no current cut in 01-06.

Seriously, 70000 MW?? Engala paatha loosu maathiri irukka? 1000 MW kooda add pannala, ivanga 70000 MW ku adikal naatunaanga nu sonna naanga nambidanuma. Did you know that India as a whole would add only 63000 MW in 11 five year plan? why the hell should I care how much they started? Finishing is what is important.

Chennai la irukaravungalukku mattum enna komba molachu irukku? Why Chennai has no power cut when everyone takes 4-6 hrs cut? You can call me jealous or whatever crap you like but let me burst your bubble - you are doing that because you people simply cannot justify that in any other bloody way. That is the only "explanation" that you can give.

These people are sitting cosily in both Delhi and Chennai and not doing anything about the railway apathy but you want JJ to fast. What kind of logic is that?

All these "DMK is good for industry and ADMK is bad" talk is BS. If anyone is anti industry (except industries owned by them), it is DMK. If you say ADMK lost Volkswagen, then can I go to Pune thread and copy paste all the projects which went there in the last 5 years as "projects lost" by DMK, will you accept? Big companies look for many locations before deciding. Does that mean the SG lost it? If ford moves to GJ tomorrow, will you accept it was due to DMK? How can industries operate without power? This illusion is created by sun TV and gullible people are just falling for it. If you know any "industrialist" by person, go and ask him who he prefers.

And M4M, Please dont call me ADMK visuvaasi, I am just an ordinary college girl who is going to vote for the first time and I have no illusion who I am going to vote. If ADMK behaves badly, I wont hesitate a moment to call their bluff. A lot of people here is not doing the same thing. They come with a pre conceived notion blinded by dmk's flashy propaganda machine refusing to see the reality. Either they live outside the state or live in some ivory tower or they are party people.

It is the bloody common man who always suffer. All power projects are in paper.. when it will come in reality?

^^Blaming DMK government for Powercut is purly political...



yes need atleast 5 years to scratch from dust...

KG,

Please check the TN gvt budget from 2004. North Chennai/Mettur/Tuticorin power plant expansion projects are initiated from then and no need to scratch from dust.

Atleast with Indian standard speed, 5th year the project should have been commissioned, but that is not the case as no one reviews the progress and 6months once we get updates even in our own media.

So both parties are equally responsible!

If DMK/ADMK comes..

7. Close TASMAC shops near to educational institutions, Religious places, BS, RS etc.,

Atleast 1/2 points in the above list will happen? But 1st is must.

Much needed one! b/w when TN gvt is so poor in marketing tier II cities to MNC, they are very good in TASMAC marketing strategy.

Education institutions, BS, RS where you can see good crowds right from a village to metro.

intha mathiri konjam tier ii cities marketing ku strategy apply pannunga rasa.. tn no.1 ayyidum.

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In online discussion, most of the modi/BJP lovers put an wierd information that more than 70% of revenue comes for TN gvt from TASMAC! But in reality it is less than 20%, I wonder who spread such a wrong information about TN in online. :bash:

No thanks. I will prefer power in the current kambi rather than on paper. JJ atleast made sure there was no power cut. She bought current from other utilities using gajana money instead of giving tv sets. Bottom line is there was no current cut in 01-06.

Seriously, 70000 MW?? Engala paatha loosu maathiri irukka? 1000 MW kooda add pannala, ivanga 70000 MW ku adikal naatunaanga nu sonna naanga nambidanuma. Did you know that India as a whole would add only 63000 MW in 11 five year plan? why the hell should I care how much they started? Finishing is what is important.



:lol: awesome

With commies on their side, Jaya may even become more anti industrial growth on top of her lethargic welcome to industries and become like Mamta Banarjee, or rather Mamta may be called mini Jaya.

In online discussion, most of the modi/BJP lovers put an wierd information that more than 70% of revenue comes for TN gvt from TASMAC! But in reality it is less than 20%, I wonder who spread such a wrong information about TN in online. :bash:

Even if it is only 10%, it shows a pathetic state. We are digging a grave for all these kudimakkal and sitting on a throne made of their dead bodies.

Well as a society in the west smoking is on the decline.. so is drinking.. its high time, we stop aping west in the name of progress .. building by pass to the cemetry in short cut.

As hypocrites both ADMK & DMK talk of Tamil legacy and Thiruvalluvar.. hasnt he dedicated 10 kurals for abstaining from drinking... there is a non religious take to it.. so these rationalists must get sobre to even understand this...

With commies on their side, Jaya may even become more anti industrial growth on top of her lethargic welcome to industries and become like Mamta Banarjee, or rather Mamta may be called mini Jaya.

Communists are snakes without fangs in TN. Anyway they contested in DMK alliance in 2006, there was no noise whatsoever. Frankly in TN, we dont have to care about the commies.

No thanks. I will prefer power in the current kambi rather than on paper. JJ atleast made sure there was no power cut. She bought current from other utilities using gajana money instead of giving tv sets. Bottom line is there was no current cut in 01-06.

Seriously, 70000 MW?? Engala paatha loosu maathiri irukka? 1000 MW kooda add pannala, ivanga 70000 MW ku adikal naatunaanga nu sonna naanga nambidanuma. Did you know that India as a whole would add only 63000 MW in 11 five year plan? why the hell should I care how much they started? Finishing is what is important.

Chennai la irukaravungalukku mattum enna komba molachu irukku? Why Chennai has no power cut when everyone takes 4-6 hrs cut? You can call me jealous or whatever crap you like but let me burst your bubble - you are doing that because you people simply cannot justify that in any other bloody way. That is the only "explanation" that you can give.

These people are sitting cosily in both Delhi and Chennai and not doing anything about the railway apathy but you want JJ to fast. What kind of logic is that?

All these "DMK is good for industry and ADMK is bad" talk is BS. If anyone is anti industry (except industries owned by them), it is DMK. If you say ADMK lost Volkswagen, then can I go to Pune thread and copy paste all the projects which went there in the last 5 years as "projects lost" by DMK, will you accept? Big companies look for many locations before deciding. Does that mean the SG lost it? If ford moves to GJ tomorrow, will you accept it was due to DMK? How can industries operate without power? This illusion is created by sun TV and gullible people are just falling for it. If you know any "industrialist" by person, go and ask him who he prefers.

And M4M, Please dont call me ADMK visuvaasi, I am just an ordinary college girl who is going to vote for the first time and I have no illusion who I am going to vote. If ADMK behaves badly, I wont hesitate a moment to call their bluff. A lot of people here is not doing the same thing. They come with a pre conceived notion blinded by dmk's flashy propaganda machine refusing to see the reality. Either they live outside the state or live in some ivory tower or they are party people.

Hello.. neenga unmayile poonakuttiya.. illa pulikuttiya..

Am very excited to see younger generation having clarity in thinking.. Proud of you for thinking above the blinded party follower line.

May you keep this clarity in all areas of life.

With commies on their side, Jaya may even become more anti industrial growth on top of her lethargic welcome to industries and become like Mamta Banarjee, or rather Mamta may be called mini Jaya.

Which part of the world were you in when they were part of DMK alliance? Anyways welcome to Tamilnadu :)

Are you opposing communist ideology or what communism is perceived now (made to perceive) or what they have become now or the people in communist parties? Just curious to know why you are opposing them.

With commies on their side, Jaya may even become more anti industrial growth on top of her lethargic welcome to industries and become like Mamta Banarjee, or rather Mamta may be called mini Jaya.

Do you seriously think Left will influence/control Jaya? :laugh:

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And M4M, Please dont call me ADMK visuvaasi, I am just an ordinary college girl who is going to vote for the first time and I have no illusion who I am going to vote. If ADMK behaves badly, I wont hesitate a moment to call their bluff. A lot of people here is not doing the same thing. They come with a pre conceived notion blinded by dmk's flashy propaganda machine refusing to see the reality. Either they live outside the state or live in some ivory tower or they are party people.

May be first girl to participate in TN subforum of SSC.

Jaya initiated the Sri-Oragadam corridor. Automobile industries started its presence in Chennai because of her. (The sector grew in Chennai only because of its strength and not because of her or DMK. I am stating this just to set the record straight).
You are right on both counts!!
I wish her third term brings more industrial growth to TN, but alas her commie friends and her mercurial antics filled two terms gives me a pause.


Are you opposing communist ideology or what communism is perceived now (made to perceive) or what they have become now or the people in communist parties? Just curious to know why you are opposing them.

Ideology to some extent, but more importantly their militiant implementation of saying NO to any progress.

Do you seriously think Left will influence/control Jaya?
The left is very disciplined to the level of suicide when it comes to any industrial growth and if they can tip the scale of majority, Jaya will pay heed as nothing is more important to politicians than their chair, esp a luck favored one with no progress to boast of.

one thing to note is that when people keep electing alternate governments every term, jayalolita will take all the money from karunanidhi and he will again become poor. And then, when dmk wins the next election (mostly karunanidhi will be dead by then), they will start making money afresh and take back jayalalitha's collected wealth.....a vicious circle...so its a major loss to the taxpayer.

The left is very disciplined to the level of suicide when it comes to any industrial growth and if they can tip the scale of majority

But they were in DMK's side from May 2006 till Jan 2009. There was no sound at all. If they dont speak against DMK, no way they will even think of waging their tail against Amma. Infact I can say they are not at all a factor. I am actually more worried about DMDK and all their free everything promises. They have serious capability to derail the govt if the alliance wins and some fissure develops in the future.

But they were in DMK's side from May 2006 till Jan 2009. There was no sound at all.
Hated them too, but the biggest spoiler was Ramadoss doing their bidding and the the state of AAI's Chennai airport is a testament of their screwed up mentality.

Hated them too, but the biggest spoiler was Ramadoss doing their bidding and the the state of AAI's Chennai airport is a testament of their screwed up mentality.

Well it was not just Ramdoss who screwed the airport deal.. Thatha didnt have the backbone to do the right thing there.. That I will count as one of the -ves in Thatha's current government.

I think given the trend of the discussion, looks like the forum has already voted out DMK. Given such a sly fox he is, I will wait for the official declaration of results. You never know what he can pull up, esp with both SG and CG in his influence.

The left is very disciplined to the level of suicide when it comes to any industrial growth and if they can tip the scale of majority, Jaya will pay heed as nothing is more important to politicians than their chair, esp a luck favored one with no progress to boast of.

Well Communism is a bane to humanity, not because of what it wants to achieve, but how. You can make a dog's tail straight, but not straighten a commie thought process.

It is definitely sad to even let them have a presence. But thats democracy. I do hope Jaya will keep them in check.

I wish a non kazhagam, non congress, non caste party (Definitely non commie) alternative arises in TN within the next decade.

satchitananda: pullikutty was taken already, so I took poonakutty :lol::lol:

Arul: I watched this forum for a few months. I registered to welcome singakutty who was leaving (many forummers complained when he posted the opening of a small hotel in Cbe thread - so he left). I am not a regular contributor here. But i felt i have to reply seeing all the posts here.

Btw, what about Raji? I thought it was a lady profile??

CBE Singakutty / CBE Poonakutty -> Colonial cousins :)

I would have called siblings if it were from same "cat" family (pulikutty instead of singakutty)

Well Communism is a bane to humanity, not because of what it wants to achieve, but how. You can make a dog's tail straight, but not straighten a commie thought process.

I too used to think that way for a long time. My tail got straightend :)

With an immature democracy, corrupt politicians, greedy corporate sector where there is no transperency and huge blue-collar worker population clubbed with 300 million poor, communism (as an ideology) has to stay to protect the weak. That's their last hope. Agreed that they have to be kept in check when they do it overboard.

^^ The real bane is the stinking thinking people subject themselves to. We live in a world where watching hours of SUN TV or NDTV or some junk TV takes a priority over working for for themselves. The thought process of feeling empowered by tapping into the SELF is critical. What politicians and media and other distractions have succeeded exceedingly well is to make us dependant. We constantly are lost in the need for approval.

Since we are all (made to believe) dependant, we forget that we are interdepandant. There is an echo of old MGR song from Vivasayi (Enna Illai intha thiru naatil.. yen kaiyai entha vendum veli naatil..)

This loss of bearings is at the root of many of societal problems of India. We could have should have been super power.. if we can empower ourselves.. we still feel that politician is not doing.. so and so is not doing.. (and in this line of thought, communism takes it to extreme.. which is the #1 reason why i am not in agreement with that ideology)

I urge that all of us should dig within.. find a connection to the great potential that is hidden within all of us.. not just the Tatas or Ambanis.. but also the ditch digger or even the most irritating autowalla.

Steven Covey is a great author of our times. He classifies people interactions in three stages.

Dependant - Like kids, invalids.. masses
Independant - People with slightly better self image and who think they can do most of their basic needs.

Interdependant - This is a very small minority.. only real leaders.. be it Mahatma Gandhi or Mandela.. or even amongst us who feel that together we are a mighty force. We need to increase this # in the society.

one thing to note is that when people keep electing alternate governments every term, jayalolita will take all the money from karunanidhi and he will again become poor. And then, when dmk wins the next election (mostly karunanidhi will be dead by then), they will start making money afresh and take back jayalalitha's collected wealth.....a vicious circle...so its a major loss to the taxpayer.

:rofl:

^^ Interdependant - This is a very small minority.. only real leaders.. be it Mahatma Gandhi or Mandela.. or even amongst us who feel that together we are a mighty force. We need to increase this # in the society.

How are you planning to achieve this interdependency? Easier said than done. You can do it in two ways

1) Link thru a commodity (meaning money). Here is where capitalism comes into picture. Nagative side is greedy corporates, which will suck unethical law-makers in. Even those who want to remain honest might get tempted which is what is happening even in matured capitalistic countries. Greed for more money!! It's difficult to get rid of it.

2) Socialism. What you are asking for is a text book definition for socialism. Unfortunately lot of countries including ours tried and miserably failed to spread wealth and happiness among all people.

Whether we like it or not capitalism is a necessary evil (the most known effective and proven way to spread wealth with whatever human kind have experimented so-far). The only effective way to counter the evil side of capitalism is with communism. Then we have democracy to keep communism in check. All 3 have to work together IMO.

I think we are on tangents here.

I am talking not of society.. talking about our inner selves.. more philosophical outlook of the individual. In a sense, I am interdependant not just with other humans (thats a good place to start) but with every other entity in Universe.(Lets not go that deep for now)

The challenge comes when you monetise everything. My point is more with the individual, rather than collection. When enough individuals fix their inner compass, the society will reflect it. The battle is individuals are too busy fixated on trivia or distracted by zillion things that they do not have an opportunity to grow.

While the society at large is something everyone would love to fix, it all begins and ends with the individual. Hence the responsibility was always given to the individual.

KT with your smartness I know from all your posts, if you dig bit deeper, you will amaze yourself that you can be of bigger positive influence on others.. that applies to all of us. Thats the challenge and thats the responsibility of all of us. When we go there, we find the universe operating with a different set of rules.

@ this rate KT, you and me are gonna change the Arattai Arangam into Socrates Sabha..lol .. Before someone chases me with that cup of poison.. jhoot..

Again you are talking about bottom-up approach where every individual has to change which will change the society. It's ideal.

What I was talking about is top-down where system will have to force individuals. That's practical.

What I was talking about is top-down where system will have to force individuals. That's practical.

Have heard of Pattukottai Kalayanasundaram song.. "Thirudana parthu thirunda vittal thiruttai ozhikka mudiyahtu".. holds true for all things.. not just theft.

Growth, evolution, going to the bathroom are all an inside job. You could make a man stand on the outside, but he may still be sitting on the inside (or vice versa).

What you call practical - Who controls the force.. how much force.. when.. and most importantly why.. and what happens when someone thinks otherwise..

Besides when you take responsibility for your future, you will be interested. How many times in human history you found people working ceaselessly for the common welfare of everyone.. ??!! .. Again if someone is not even taking responsibility for self growth, how can those folks collectively address the societal needs ??

^^ Majority of the individuals in our country do not even realize what we deserve and what we get. For them, seeing a crowded bus, seeing a jam packed train in a pleasure. For them, power cuts are daily routines. They do not make a big deal out of it.
They fail to understand that we are deprived by these politicians.
They get carried away with the currency they are given on the eve of the election day.

With this mindsent prevailing in majority, we cannot expect the bottom-up approach to work.

Again if someone is not even taking responsibility for self growth, how can those folks collectively address the societal needs ??

Simple, one who takes care of himself will rise to be a leader and will (and should) take care of collective needs. The lesser mortals should just follow :)

and most importantly why.. and what happens when someone thinks otherwise..


That's applicable to your individual bottom-up approach as well!!

Power projects have a gestation period of few years. When Amma ruled, TN was a power surplus state thanks to the previous DMK rule where they initiated new power projects. From 2001 to 2006 Amma did nothing on power front so we have power cuts now, thanks again to Thatha by 2013 TN would again be power surplus and if Amma rules TN by then I am sure many zombies would praise Amma again for that.

Amma laid the foundation for what Bangalore and Hyderabad is now.
What was supposed to come to Chennai as Singapore corridor went to Bangalore as ITPL and the rest is history, Bangalore became the silicon valley of India. In her second term Brand Hyderabad reached it zenith as she shoed away investors and CBN invited them. It was because of Thatha and his Tidel park in chennai TN is in the investors list of IT companies. IT corridor was conceived in the last year of the previous DMK rule the first deadline of the project was April 2001. Amma did lay the road for even 5 M (yes M= meters) during her five years rule.

If she is elected again then this time it is going to be boom time for Cochin or some other city.

^^what i don't get is after these many major negatives, why people in this forum are supporting admk? If I had to vote and make a decision based on the last few pages, there is little/no mention of any admk related project to go with them.

^^what i don't get is after these many major negatives, why people in this forum are supporting admk? If I had to vote and make a decision based on the last few pages, there is little/no mention of any admk related project to go with them.

Didn't you hear? She got Ford two decades back and people are still giddy over it and :banana:.

^^what i don't get is after these many major negatives, why people in this forum are supporting admk? If I had to vote and make a decision based on the last few pages, there is little/no mention of any admk related project to go with them.

What? Marubadiyum vediya vediya chitti serial partthitu Chittikku Saratkumar chittappa-nu solreengalae :lol:

First of all, folks here did talk about Sri - Oragadam corridor being started by Jaya. People did talk about electricity and Small scale enterpreneurs. I would also add rain water harvesting to the list.

Second of all several projects initiated by JNNURM, BJP and CG are shown as DMK projects by few members of this forum. Subtract that projects. Out of those whatever DMK could lay claim on, more than half of them are craps, half-baked, non-starter, paper-ones. (Which is also discussed here). So if you subtract all those crappy projects and just consider the genuine ones both DMK and ADMK are pretty much about the same.

Now bring in the corruption and power abuse equation. If you want to talk beyond 2G, there is a huge list. I started on one and CBE Poonakutty's post lists several (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=73934295&postcount=4226). All you have to do is read discussions in the last few pages instead of selectively reading what thatha devotees said :)

[And yeah I see that you called free tv as a development project in your post :)]

hmm...water supply, electricity supply, transport and investment/job opportunities are the only major things i/anyone should look at. So considering these factors how do you rate Chennai, Coimbatore, Madurai and Trichy during admk/dmk period?

I do remember that many years back I used to collect water from the water tankers in chennai (around 2001-02 i guess).

Neglect corruption. When laws are crap, no one can help it.

I tried to do some economic analysis of net state domestic product at current prices and it was higher for TN during 2002 to 2006 beating states like karnataka but it become lesser than karnataka during 2006 to 2009 period. Not sure if it is lagging indicator.
If lagging indicator we can assume amma did badly in 2002 to 2006 period so 2007 to 2009 stats are bad. If lagging indicator we can also assume Thatha did better during 1997 to 2001.

hmm...water supply, electricity supply, transport and investment/job opportunities are the only major things i/anyone should look at. So considering these factors how do you rate Chennai, Coimbatore, Madurai and Trichy during admk/dmk period?

I do remember that many years back I used to collect water from the water tankers in chennai (around 2001-02 i guess).

Amma fans will say she initiated the Desalination plant efforts for Chennai.
DMK pushed PC to get 1000 crores for the 2nd desalination plant at Nemmeli and the first one is already operational in Minjur by the state govt.

^^what i don't get is after these many major negatives, why people in this forum are supporting admk? If I had to vote and make a decision based on the last few pages, there is little/no mention of any admk related project to go with them.

Finally, some one is making a good judgement :)

hmm...water supply, electricity supply, transport and investment/job opportunities are the only major things i/anyone should look at. So considering these factors how do you rate Chennai, Coimbatore, Madurai and Trichy during admk/dmk period?

I do remember that around many years back I used to collect water from the water tankers in chennai (around 2001-02 i guess).

Everything that I'm gonna say below are relative. Both parties doesn't solve the issue for tamilians. So keep that in mind
Water supply - Pretty even between the two. I would give Jaya the edge because she made Rainwater harvesting the law.

Electricity - Definitely Jaya. She used treasury money to purchase power. DMK used that money for free TV and rice.

Transportation - Train services - MK, Air connectivity - MK, Bus - Jaya as per our resident transportation expert Dhandapani.

investment/job opportunities - MK. (selectively at chennai)

And here are few more that you left out

Law and Order - Jaya

Transparancy in public rationing - MK

What? Marubadiyum vediya vediya chitti serial partthitu Chittikku Saratkumar chittappa-nu solreengalae :lol:

First of all, folks here did talk about Sri - Oragadam corridor being started by Jaya.

So by just making a statement that Sri-Orgadam corridor was started by Jaya, does that mean it is a fact?
:)

Everything that I'm gonna say below are relative. Both parties doesn't solve the issue for tamilians. So keep that in mind
Water supply - Pretty even between the two. I would give Jaya the edge because she made Rainwater harvesting the law.


What about two mega desalination plants in Chennai?

So by just making a statement that Sri-Orgadam corridor was started by Jaya, does that mean it is a fact?
:)

Well if you can show empty 5 story, half finished buildings without power as kick-ass projects [jump starter :)] then why not this which really jump started this corridor?

Well if you can show empty 5 story, half finished buildings without power as kick-ass projects [jump starter :)] then why not this?

I am not sure what you are trying to say. Go and look around Oragadam and see the plants that went live. I am not talking about half finished buildings. The latest to go to production was 2000 crore Apollo plant. Michelin/Toshiba is getting ready for it also.

If you have a pre-concieved mindset against Thatha, then nothing can be done to convince you.
I agree that Amma is better in law and order and firm decision making. But she is NOT GOOD for industrial growth unless God changes her attitude and mind set.

cool, thanks kongutamizhan, both dmk and admk have their areas of expertise..hehe....and did dmk/admk abolish any good thing by the previous government?

And M4M, Please dont call me ADMK visuvaasi, I am just an ordinary college girl who is going to vote for the first time and I have no illusion who I am going to vote. If ADMK behaves badly, I wont hesitate a moment to call their bluff. A lot of people here is not doing the same thing. They come with a pre conceived notion blinded by dmk's flashy propaganda machine refusing to see the reality. Either they live outside the state or live in some ivory tower or they are party people.

Poonakutty, on seeing your posts I thought you are a hardcore fan of Amma and ADMK. But I am really surprised to know that you are just a college student. You are having very clear views about the things happening around and good focussed arguments. Hats off to you!!!

I am not sure what you are trying to say. Go and look around Oragadam and see the plants that went live. I am not talking about half finished buildings. The latest to go to production was 2000 crore Apollo plant. Michelin/Toshiba is getting ready for it also.

If you have a pre-concieved mindset against Thatha, then nothing can be done to convince you.
I agree that Amma is better in law and order and firm decision making. But she is NOT GOOD for industrial growth unless God changes her attitude and mind set.

Are you saying that you don't have any pre-concieved mindset against those you don't agree with? Everyone has it to some extent based on which we all form our opinions. Atleast majority who wants to get DMK out of power this time around acknowledges that Jaya is no saint. The reason we are giving is simple. This election is like 1996 where the ruling party was at its worst.

But you folks at DMK camp project MK and Stalin as god and saviour, while the reality is most of the development happened despite them and not because of them. What did your god do? Did he develop anything outside 50kms radius around Chennai? Even @ Chennai what is the quality of development? Did it benefit the folks at the bottom of social hierarchy?

Are you saying that you don't have any pre-concieved mindset against those you don't agree with? Everyone has it to some extent based on which we all form our opinions. Atleast majority who wants to get DMK out of power this time around acknowledges that Jaya is no saint. The reason we are giving is simple. This election is like 1996 where the ruling party was at its worst.

But you folks at DMK camp project MK and Stalin as god and saviour, while the reality is most of the development happened despite them and not because of them. What did your god do? Did he develop anything outside 50kms radius around Chennai? Even @ Chennai what is the quality of development? Did it benefit the folks at the bottom of social hierarchy?

Also i want to add one more point.Somewhere in this forum someone mentioned it was MK who started many power projects. But it is not true. Actually jaya did brought all those projects, especially suzlon

Tamil cinema and Tamil Nadu politics are like two sides of a coin. That too with the Assembly elections nearing, you just can’t separate these two powerful entities, which go hand in hand for decades.

Coming to the latest buzz, Vijay’s Makkal Iyakkam, which is said to be the actor’s launch vehicle for his political entry, is all set to face the elections by joining hands with the main opposition AIADMK.

“In all probability, the AIADMK leadership may allot three seats to Vijay’s outfit. The actor will not contest the polls. However, he may tour the whole State campaigning for the alliance,” sources say.

“Two important office bearers of the Makkal Iyakkam and Vijay’s father S A Chandrasekar will fight the elections on behalf of the Ilaya Thalapathi,” they add. Remember Vijay recently came down heavily on the ruling DMK for allegedly posing hurdles to his film ‘Kavalan’.

Source (http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/64646.html)

This election is like 1996 where the ruling party was at its worst.

You guys are projecting like that. Not sure if every one supports your view.


But you folks at DMK camp project MK and Stalin as god and saviour, while the reality is most of the development happened despite them and not because of them. What did your god do?

No one is saying they are gods. They are equally corrupt like Jaya.


Did he develop anything outside 50kms radius around Chennai? Even @ Chennai what is the quality of development? Did it benefit the folks at the bottom of social hierarchy?

Example-1: look at Cheyyar which is 100 KM away. Nike has a huge factory there now. M and M just signed their MOU.
Example-2: Videocon was convinced to setup plant in South TN
Example-3: Zynergy is setting up a plant in Nanguneri SEZ. Amma wants to kills this SEZ.
The state gov amended the policy to give huge concessions for industries set up outside the urban areas. Check govt website.
I can go on and on. You seem to conveniently ignore the positives and only look at the negatives.

Also i want to add one more point.Somewhere in this forum someone mentioned it was MK who started many power projects. But it is not true. Actually jaya did brought all those projects, especially suzlon

Yep you are correct. Suzlon is from her (http://www.suzlon.com/about_suzlon/milestones_result.aspx?startdate=2004)time. 600 MW capacity as per wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzlon_Energy). I was not aware of it. Bloody Sun TV propaganda, even me thought it was from MK time :)

You guys are projecting like that. Not sure if every one supports your view.


You don't have to agree with me. But people will. You will get to know by mid-May :)

You don't have to agree with me. But people will. You will get to know by mid-May :)

I am fine with any result. This is democracy and people win/loose. I am not running away from this forum if DMK looses.:) Lets see what majority think in the state.

I am fine with any result. This is democracy and people win/loose. I am not running away from this forum if DMK looses.:) Lets see what majority think in the state.

:okay: :cheers1:

Yep you are correct. Suzlon is from her (http://www.suzlon.com/about_suzlon/milestones_result.aspx?startdate=2004)time. 600 MW capacity as per wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzlon_Energy). I was not aware of it. Bloody Sun TV propaganda, even me thought it was from MK time :)

+1 100 MW is lost because power generating turbines are under repair/poor maintenance for the past 4 years in servalaru and papanasam dam :bash: People who complain about ADMK has to note that DMK hasn't made anything to repair these turbines for the past 4 years. This 100 MW can be handy for the power deficit TN.

I am fine with any result. This is democracy and people win/loose. I am not running away from this forum if DMK looses.:) Lets see what majority think in the state.

Like alternating current (AC) [in electricity], the power :lol: in TN is also alternating in TN for the past 2-3 decades between DMK and ADMK

Congress strikes deal with DMK, crisis over

http://l.yimg.com/t/frontpage/dmkupa_60.jpg

The Congress party struck a deal on Tuesday with the Dravida Munnetra Kazagham (DMK) in a row over seat-sharing in the Tamil Nadu elections, ending days of jitters over the stability of a government already hit by a series of crises.

The decision by the DMK is a respite for Prime Minister Manmohan Singh as he battles a series of corruption scandals as well as inflation problems, which have already weakened his government.

The DMK, which had planned to quit Singh's council of ministers, said it would remain in the coalition following the election deal.

"The agreement has been reached. We are very happy about it," the DMK chief M. Karunanidhi told reporters in Chennai where the party is based.

The DMK has 18 seats in parliament and gives the ruling Congress a majority of one seat. A pull-out would have forced the Congress to search for other allies or continue as a minority government dependent on conditional support from other parties.

The coalition was not in danger of collapse even if the DMK ministers left because the party said it would continue to give conditional support to the government.

But instability would hurt government policymaking, already hit by an aggressive opposition which has stepped up pressure, seeing a chance to discredit the coalition in the eyes of voters.

The coalition has been struggling to push reform legislation through parliament, including a bill for a uniform goods and services tax across the country as well as a bill to make land acquisition easier.

"WE WILL WORK TOGETHER"

The intervention of Congress head Sonia Gandhi, India's most powerful politician who normally stays above the fray, played a key role in the deal struck for the election in Tamil Nadu.

"We will work together. It is a willing alliance," said another DMK leader M.K. Alagiri.

For years the two main national parties, Congress and the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), have depended on regional parties for support in government. Several governments have fallen early on scandals and controversies, but since 1999 both Congress and the BJP have survived their full terms.

Ties between the Congress and the DMK have been strained since former telecoms minister A. Raja, a DMK member, was fired for selling 2G telecom licences at low prices, which an audit said had cost the government up to $39 billion.

Analysts said the Congress had toughened its stand toward the DMK after the scandal, one of India's biggest, embarrassed Singh and seen his unimpeachable reputation dashed to the ground.

Under the election deal agreed upon on Tuesday, the Congress forced the DMK to accept its demand to contest 63 seats in the 234-member Tamil Nadu state legislature. The regional group which dominates the state had asked the Congress to run in 60 seats and leave the rest to it.

The BSE Sensex rose 1.2 percent earlier on Tuesday on hopes of a political solution after a fall the previous day when the regional group announced its decision to submit resignation letters of its six ministers in the federal council of ministers.

The cracks in the ruling alliance had reinforced the image of an administration adrift, unable to tackle a culture of corruption or curb inflation that has stoked public anger.

On Tuesday, Singh appeared before parliament for a second time accepting responsibility for naming a civil servant to the country's top anti-graft watchdog, even though the officer himself was facing allegations of wrongdoing.

In February, he bowed to demands for a parliamentary investigation into the scandal after months of protests by the opposition stalled the assembly's last session.

Source (http://in.news.yahoo.com/congress-patches-deal-dmk-20110308-050403-647.html)

^^ DMK contesting in 121, congress in 63 - more than half the seats of DMK.Shameful for DMK:bash:

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/03/09/20110309d_016107010.jpg

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/03/09/20110309a_002107012.jpg

May be first girl to participate in TN subforum of SSC.

There is one more active member "Aruna Kandhasamy" in TN sub forum...

I am fine with any result. This is democracy and people win/loose. I am not running away from this forum if DMK looses.:) Lets see what majority think in the state.
+1. However, I think there will be minimal updates to TN threads especially Chennai threads in Amma wins. I know avar kongu naataar will love the second part! ;)

By the end of last year of Amma's aatchi, Chennai will be ranked 25th in the city rankings in India. Shillong, Gangtok etc. will be above Chennai in all rankings. :(

Even if it is only 10%, it shows a pathetic state. We are digging a grave for all these kudimakkal and sitting on a throne made of their dead bodies.

Well as a society in the west smoking is on the decline.. so is drinking.. its high time, we stop aping west in the name of progress .. building by pass to the cemetry in short cut.

As hypocrites both ADMK & DMK talk of Tamil legacy and Thiruvalluvar.. hasnt he dedicated 10 kurals for abstaining from drinking... there is a non religious take to it.. so these rationalists must get sobre to even understand this...

If I am correct, Thirukural also says eating non-veg/killing animals is sin.. so should be we ban non-veg in the state?

I am not supporting the TASMAC money for gvt, but the point was such a hatredness on TN by particular party members as if GJ is Singapore and TN is Coumn. :nuts:

+1. However, I think there will be minimal updates to TN threads especially Chennai threads in Amma wins. I know avar kongu naataar will love the second part! ;)

Half of the Chennai updates comes from the so called national traditional english news paper and ruling party tamil dailies, yes if amma wins they will not show the paper projects like MTC bus stop will be mordernized which is coming for past 3yrs in the interval of 15days once.

+1. However, I think there will be minimal updates to TN threads especially Chennai threads in Amma wins. I know avar kongu naataar will love the second part! ;)

By the end of last year of Amma's aatchi, Chennai will be ranked 25th in the city rankings in India. Shillong, Gangtok etc. will be above Chennai in all rankings. :(

If Amma wins, who said no project will come to Chennai. If no project is coming then why ADMK share in chennai constituencies got increased last time?

I'm seeing modernization of bus stop news for the past 3 yrs. Will it take 3 yrs to complete those modernization?

+1. However, I think there will be minimal updates to TN threads especially Chennai threads in Amma wins. I know avar kongu naataar will love the second part! ;)
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yedhukku ungalukku ippadi saniyana thooki baniyan kulla podura vela? :lol:

^^ Forget those 'sticky bit projects'. The main ones like airport which are already running late, could be severely hit.

Forget these...the hint that Amma gave about the new LA is sending shivers down the spine for a potential conflict. :ohno:

yedhukku ungalukku ippadi saniyana thooki baniyan kulla podura vela? :lol:
:rofl:

Power projects have a gestation period of few years. When Amma ruled, TN was a power surplus state thanks to the previous DMK rule where they initiated new power projects. From 2001 to 2006 Amma did nothing on power front so we have power cuts now, thanks again to Thatha by 2013 TN would again be power surplus and if Amma rules TN by then I am sure many zombies would praise Amma again for that.

Amma laid the foundation for what Bangalore and Hyderabad is now.
What was supposed to come to Chennai as Singapore corridor went to Bangalore as ITPL and the rest is history, Bangalore became the silicon valley of India. In her second term Brand Hyderabad reached it zenith as she shoed away investors and CBN invited them. It was because of Thatha and his Tidel park in chennai TN is in the investors list of IT companies. IT corridor was conceived in the last year of the previous DMK rule the first deadline of the project was April 2001. Amma did lay the road for even 5 M (yes M= meters) during her five years rule.

If she is elected again then this time it is going to be boom time for Cochin or some other city.

^^what i don't get is after these many major negatives, why people in this forum are supporting admk? If I had to vote and make a decision based on the last few pages, there is little/no mention of any admk related project to go with them.

If you think thatha only initiated the present u/c power plants, then pls read the TN budget from 2004!

As poonakutty said, should we copy and paste those projects of Pune, Noida, Bengaluru and Hyderabad from 2006-2011 and say that thatha left all those investment to other states and dumped Chennai/TN?

And why the same thatha has opened the half baked IT corridor which can be termed as the worst arterial road of Chennai city! Since it was sanctioned during Jaya rule, thatha dumped it?

I wonder why the same forumers forget the tons of paper projects announced in last 5years for Chennai/TN
1. Koovam cleaning project
2. IT corridor executed in stinking way
3. Gvt didn't bother to acquire inch of land after Adambakkam for connecting the MRTS to St.Thomas mt
4. Financial city
5. port expressway

we can write more if Chennai/TN sub forum posts are gone through from 2006 to till now.

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It looks we are grinding the same flour daily... araichamava araipoma thovaicha thuniya thuvaipoma..

^^ Forget those 'sticky bit projects'. The main ones like airport which are already running late, could be severely hit.

Forget these...the hint that Amma gave about the new LA is sending shivers down the spine for a potential conflict. :ohno:

What Amma can do if AAI is delaying it? May be thatha should gear it up with congress's CG. kandippa athu nadakka porathu illai.

erm...this is what i am saying again, everyones mentioning only the negatives of the current government and not much about the positives of the previous one(admk).

Poonakutty, on seeing your posts I thought you are a hardcore fan of Amma and ADMK. But I am really surprised to know that you are just a college student. You are having very clear views about the things happening around and good focussed arguments. Hats off to you!!!

haha maybe I will be a hardcore DMK fan after 5 years. Everything is in Amma's hands :lol::lol:.

But on a serious note, our level of governance has to improve by an order of magnitude. In the post independence period, TN was a model state and we are still reaping rich dividends due to the visionary policies of that era. Now everything has changed and other states looks upto GJ for inspiration. The kazhagams has definitely degraded the intellectual fabric of public life. May TN get back its glory and let this election be a landmark one.

I have only one request to the forum - please dont support a party just because you voted for it in the last election. Politics is dynamic and what was once a good party may turn worse and what was once bad may change. Always keep the mind open and vote for the party which you think is the best bet in the current circumstances.

I feel that all the developments during the past decade were mainly because of the inherent advantage of the state, its eco system, industrial establishments, relatively low labor problems etc.

Both the current ruling and earlier ruling parties can not claim 100% credit for the development.

JJ initiated it in Auto & IT. Senior Maran was also instrumental in Hyundai & Tidel Park. Junior Maran was also bullish esp on Hardware SEZ.

But as rulers this is the least one can do to their state and it is their duty and not out of the world achievement.

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^^ Majority of the individuals in our country do not even realize what we deserve and what we get. For them, seeing a crowded bus, seeing a jam packed train in a pleasure. For them, power cuts are daily routines. They do not make a big deal out of it.
They fail to understand that we are deprived by these politicians.
They get carried away with the currency they are given on the eve of the election day.

With this mindsent prevailing in majority, we cannot expect the bottom-up approach to work.

That is somewhat ok. Most of the people especially ladies were voting for the colour of skin. During our NSS camps in most of the villages around Chennai People used to say first eligibility of jays was her colour and way she speaks English. This exactly same as vadivel and Madhavan joke in movie. Vellaia Errukravanka Ellorum Nallavanga.


Can any body deny the fact Jaya is a personification of Ego. Because of Her Ego She has destroyed ADMK . Even during MGR's Period there were lot Second rung leaders. I dont Think MGR would ever forgive her for the things that she has done to ADMK. It was very much unfortunate that TN could not get proper governance from her even though she has the potential to deliver.

Can any body say Why jaya has toppled Vajpayee governement after 13Month on the lame reason of Admiral General Vishu bagahawat.

At Present big Void for a next generation Leader. we need to seek divine help by following the old custom of using an Elephant with Garland to select one King as a responsible voter we have failed to identify one among us who really cares about TN and Its people

Wow, oru naalaiku minimum 5 pages poguthu. Ethukku ivlo menakkettu eluthurangannu theriyala. Namma enna thaan vai kiliya pesinaalum TN nelavaram ithu thaan. 2011-2016 ADMK 2016-2021 DMK 2021-2026 ADMK 2026-2031 DMK and so on. DMDK, PMK, Congress, Communist ellam side dish. Namma enna thaan avanga senja project perusa ivanga senja project perusa nu pulli vivarama argue pannalum makkaloda mindset ithu thaan. :bash::bash::bash:
Romba theliva:nuts: argue panra Poonakutty ye "maybe I will be a hardcore DMK fan after 5 years" nu solrappo sinthikkave theriyaatha namma TN makkaloda mindset ethuva irukka mudiyum ?????

Jaya is very famous for abusing power I can quote so many Examples.

1) Arrest of Kanchi Sankarachiriar.
2) Kanja Cases against her own foster son.
3) Tansi
4) Her changing of stance in SL issue.
5) Arrest of MK and when TN was in turmoil she was in Kerala donating the Elephant
6) Mahamaham Accident.
7) Just enquire about How people suffered during her cavalcade passes thro Mountroad.

There are so many such incidents / mis rule are there in JJ's rule I know there were/are mis rule during DMK's regime. But no body can deny it is relatively less during MK's Period.

I am very much sure that She has never changed and she will ever change.

I know something blinds people from making a right judgement. May be mamiyar udaithal Mankudam Marumagal udaithal Pon kudam.

May be mamiyar udaithal Mankudam Marumagal udaithal Pon kudam.

ஒவ்வொரு தடவ ஒவ்வொரு பழமொழி விடறீங்க! கலக்குங்க.

Wow, oru naalaiku minimum 5 pages poguthu. Ethukku ivlo menakkettu eluthurangannu theriyala. Namma enna thaan vai kiliya pesinaalum TN nelavaram ithu thaan. 2011-2016 ADMK 2016-2021 DMK 2021-2026 ADMK 2026-2031 DMK and so on. DMDK, PMK, Congress, Communist ellam side dish. Namma enna thaan avanga senja project perusa ivanga senja project perusa nu pulli vivarama argue pannalum makkaloda mindset ithu thaan. :bash::bash::bash:
Romba theliva:nuts: argue panra Poonakutty ye "maybe I will be a hardcore DMK fan after 5 years" nu solrappo sinthikkave theriyaatha namma TN makkaloda mindset ethuva irukka mudiyum ?????

இதே ஒரு அரட்டை அரங்கம் இங்க போய் பேசாதீங்க சும்மா உக்காருங்கன்னு சொன்னா எப்புடி?

இதே ஒரு அரட்டை அரங்கம் இங்க போய் பேசாதீங்க சும்மா உக்காருங்கன்னு சொன்னா எப்புடி?

இவங்க எல்லாம் அரட்டை அடிக்கற மாதிரி தெரியலயே. :lol::lol::lol:

Jaya is very famous for abusing power I can quote so many Examples.

1) Arrest of Kanchi Sankarachiriar.


Godmen are not above law.

2) Kanja Cases against her own foster son.

Unless you are her next foster son, why do you care? Further, are you sure he didnt indulge in any such activities?

3) Tansi
The supreme court acquitted her. Do you know more law than SC? If yes, then take your case to the police station. The SG and CG will be more than happy to help with your case.

4) Her changing of stance in SL issue.
Yes Congress and DMK are the saviors of SL Tamils. Happy? Atleast she was consistently anti LTTE (which is the correct stand - they are after all a terrorist organization who killed our PM in our own soil).

5) Arrest of MK and when TN was in turmoil she was in Kerala donating the Elephant


How convenient you forgot MK tearing the sari of JJ in 89 in front of the whole assembly (do you even understand what a cheap mentality that is?) and arresting her immediately after coming to power in 96. When was TN ever in turmoil?? Why do you care if she donates an elephant or a monkey to temple? Its her personal belief and you dont have any right to question it.

6) Mahamaham Accident.
What about it?

7) Just enquire about How people suffered during her cavalcade passes thro Mountroad.

During 91-96 - yes. But in 01-06 she actually made it a point not to disturb the traffic when she is leaving for secretariat. Not only that, she also made it a point not to wear any jewelery after 96 (we ladies note it very well, you cannot cheat us on that).

There are so many such incidents / mis rule are there in JJ's rule I know there were/are mis rule during DMK's regime. But no body can deny it is relatively less during MK's Period.


I can deny. Prove it.

I am very much sure that She has never changed and she will ever change.
I already replied to it. JJ of 01-06 was profoundly much better than 91-96. There is no reason why we cant expect a better JJ this time too.

I know something blinds people from making a right judgement. May be mamiyar udaithal Mankudam Marumagal udaithal Pon kudam.

In your case its easy to see who is mamiyar and who is marumagal.

Jaya Lalitha + Vijayakant + Vijay ... Alikum

Vetri Chitram... Makkalin per atharavudan...

Sentiments; Action ; Mystery ; Pathos ; Stomach churning non-stop humour

Releasing in May ...

Tamil Nadu, the Ultimate Superstar " Numero One "

what about Kalaignar movies?

1. Sun Pictures
2. Red Giant
3. Cloud nine

But athellam waste, thatha movie is the best... Eelam Tamils fasting start panni neythi congress drama varaikkum soopper dooper hit... hope last 5yrs sucessful movie of thatha comes to end in may. :nuts:

இவங்க எல்லாம் அரட்டை அடிக்கற மாதிரி தெரியலயே. :lol::lol::lol:

amam.. dmk & admk oda online pracharam madri dan theriyudhu.. inga naama developmemt adhu idhu nu kathikitrukkom aana vera engayo pettigalai parimaatram senjutrukkanga..

dmk & admk: innumaada makkal nammala nambitrukkanunga..
makkal: adhu enga thala ezhuthu..

(btw, i dont actually bother abt congress, dmdk in TN)

There are so many such incidents / mis rule are there in JJ's rule I know there were/are mis rule during DMK's regime. But no body can deny it is relatively less during MK's Period.


I know something blinds people from making a right judgement. May be mamiyar udaithal Mankudam Marumagal udaithal Pon kudam.

Relatively less during DMK?

Coimbatore bomb blasting happened in 1998 during DMK rule! which is the worst terrorist attack in TN so far.. athukkum amma thaan karanama?

Have we all forgot Tirunelveli Manjolai massacre during 1999?

To competete with ADMK's live burning of three girls at Dharmapuri, 2 lives were burnt alive at Madurai....

athu eppadinga, onnukku innoru katchi salachavanga illai.

2 lives were burnt alive at Madurai....



Its 3. Further the ADMK people didnt receive any party backing and are now awaiting their death in the jail. What happened to those burned the journos? Everything was conveniently buried in the name of "kangal panithathu, ithayam inithathu".

Kalanidhi Maran was so furiously saying "engalukkum thaan gnaayam venum" to the poor relatives of the journos in front of TV cameras. Little did they realize that "gnaayam" is a code word used by thatha family for cabinet ministry. He got his gyayam but the victims got only 1 lac rupees.

Kalanidhi Maran was so furiously saying "engalukkum thaan gnaayam venum" to the poor relatives of the journos in front of TV cameras. Little did they realize that "gnaayam" is a code word used by thatha family for cabinet ministry. He got his gyayam but the victims got only 1 lac rupees.

Sarcasm at its caustic best. Poonakutty is rapidly acquiring many fans.

Sarcasm at its caustic best. Poonakutty is rapidly acquiring many fans.

Thank you :) But i have a feeling that i am getting addicted to this forum. Sem is coming in 45-50 days. For me that is more important.

I have to skip this thread I guess. I could see only finger pointers and out-criers here. There is no one who has given a balanced and a well deserved comments who stands out of both the party till now and we have scrolled 4more pages :(

Kongu, I was expecting a better stand and reply from you (as you are a better critique for both the parties) and you betrayed me.

Seriously, shall we give something like point system to all the parties? :dunno: coz party supporters take us no where.

For every finished projects 3points, every project started 2 points, and for paper projects no points. Every delayed project -1 point. Aptly stopped unnecessary projects gives points to opposition, plus projects on the election agenda takes 1 point each.

Every against law activities -1 point.
Something like that, atleast we'll know who scores over the edge on other.
:dunno:

Wow, oru naalaiku minimum 5 pages poguthu. Ethukku ivlo menakkettu eluthurangannu theriyala. Namma enna thaan vai kiliya pesinaalum TN nelavaram ithu thaan. 2011-2016 ADMK 2016-2021 DMK 2021-2026 ADMK 2026-2031 DMK and so on. DMDK, PMK, Congress, Communist ellam side dish. Namma enna thaan avanga senja project perusa ivanga senja project perusa nu pulli vivarama argue pannalum makkaloda mindset ithu thaan. :bash::bash::bash:
Romba theliva:nuts: argue panra Poonakutty ye "maybe I will be a hardcore DMK fan after 5 years" nu solrappo sinthikkave theriyaatha namma TN makkaloda mindset ethuva irukka mudiyum ?????
It is exactly for this reason, I urge forumers to contribute aptly and I don't want to be a prey for this.

Thank you :) But i have a feeling that i am getting addicted to this forum. Sem is coming in 45-50 days. For me that is more important.

Good for you. It is good that you realized that within 27 posts. After more than 700 posts, I still cannot wean myself out of here. Poi polaikura vazhiya paakanum.

Seriya soneenga "tractor" :lol::lol:

Like alternating current (AC) [in electricity], the power :lol: in TN is also alternating in TN for the past 2-3 decades between DMK and ADMK

Both with shocking results.. for the public.. ;)

Seriya soneenga "tractor" :lol::lol:

huh. neenga enna aanjineyar ah?

If I am correct, Thirukural also says eating non-veg/killing animals is sin.. so should be we ban non-veg in the state?

I am not supporting the TASMAC money for gvt, but the point was such a hatredness on TN by particular party members as if GJ is Singapore and TN is Coumn. :nuts:

You are right. Thought of the meat eating part in Thirukkural afterwards.

But my point is about hypocrisy. Smoking and drinking are proven to be health deterrants. Meat eating is bit more wide open as it clashes with cultural and other angles. Besides promoting smoking and drinking may be fashionable amongst youngsters or folks addicted to it, but if its a moral thing for a govt to perpetuate.. thats a NO on my books.

Well comparisons are always limitations as two is not one. I agree with you its idiotic to keep comparing GJ or Modi at the drop of a hat.

The fact that govt has been leaning on TASMAC so much doesnt auger well for its citizens.

huh. neenga enna aanjineyar ah?

I have p.m ed you :)

Seriously, shall we give something like point system to all the parties? :dunno: coz party supporters take us no where.

For every finished projects 3points, every project started 2 points, and for paper projects no points. Every delayed project -1 point. Aptly stopped unnecessary projects gives points to opposition, plus projects on the election agenda takes 1 point each.

Every against law activities -1 point.
Something like that, atleast we'll know who scores over the edge on other.
:dunno:

TShyam already did analysis for road/flyover projects in Chennai thread. Points for infrastructure projects are of no use as we all know how much decades it takes for completion.

We can put weightage for ruling party based on their 2006 manifesto.

^^ I'm fine. Something valuable please.

^^

http://www.arasiyaltalk.com/content/binary/dmk_manifesto_e2006.pdf

It will take time to read this.

Godmen are not above law.

The supreme court acquitted her. Do you know more law than SC? If yes, then take your case to the police station. The SG and CG will be more than happy to help with your case.


Also wanted to add one more thing here. Amma faced all her corruption charges in-front of court of law. Thatha never did that. Starting from Veeranam / Sarkaria days to recent 2G he always used politics and drama to get acquitted. That's something to think about.

erm...this is what i am saying again, everyones mentioning only the negatives of the current government and not much about the positives of the previous one(admk).

Marubadiyum first-lendha? Raasa unga kaala kaaminga.

People have given ADMK achievements in various individual posts. I tried considating it and replied to your earlier query on similar lines here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=73970749&postcount=4304). Between that post and this here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=73980073&postcount=4320)is one more regarding power plant that Mr.Nellai mentioned.

As far as the positives of DMK, I see that you have already read various posts here where people even claimed Obama's achievements as Kalaigner's. I heard a rumour that FBI is keenly watching this thread :)

I tried consolidating both parties strength's here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=73972171&postcount=4309).

Idhukkumela ivanga rendu perum senja nallathu mattum pesanum-na karpana senji than sollanum. Naan mattum enna vechikitta vanjana seyuren? :)

Amma faced all her corruption charges in-front of court of law.

அம்மாடியோவ்....பெரிய கின்னஸ் சாதனை. அம்மா face பண்றாங்க, face பண்றாங்க, face பண்ணிக்கிட்டே இருக்காங்க.:lol::lol::lol: தமிழ்நாட்ல face பண்ணது இல்லாம பெங்களூர் லாம் போயி face பண்றாங்க :lol::lol::lol:

^^ The point I am trying to make is she is atleast trying to face the court. If she is guilty she deserves any punishment.

Thatha is scared to face court which is evident from the DMK-congress drama in 80's with Indira Gandhi (to get acquitted from Sarkaria) to day-before-yesterday's drama with IG's DIL SG to get his family acquited from 2G. Bottomline is he has never changed. Neither his age nor experience brought him the wisdom. People here say that Jaya never changes her attitude. While I agree with it when it comes to her ego, thatha never changed his attitudes either.

Thatha is scared to face court which is evident from the DMK-congress drama in 80's with Indira Gandhi (to get acquitted from Sarkaria) to day-before-yesterday's drama with IG's DIL SG to get his family acquited from 2G.

வாய்தா வாங்கி வாங்கி போலீஸ் கான்ஸ்டபிள் லேர்ந்து ஆரம்பிச்சு ஜட்ஜ் வரைக்கும் எல்லாரோட Time ஐயும் வேஸ்ட் பண்ணி அலக்கழிக்கறதுக்கு :nuts::nuts::nuts: இது எவ்வுளவோ மேல்.

^^ Can we make it a rule and make it applicable to thiefs, murderers and rapists as well? All they have to do is get some political connections high up so that they don't waste precious times of constables and judges with vaidas. Let's dismantle law and order :nuts:

An open letter to Jayalalitha from Savukku (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=509:2011-03-09-06-29-07&catid=10:2010-10-16-14-42-56)

Godmen are not above law.

Yes If They have committed the crime. What happened to that case now. Every one knows it is Vendetta for a property In chennai

Unless you are her next foster son, why do you care? Further, are you sure he didnt indulge in any such activities?

Dear madam kanja case was not framed only against his foster so many such cases were there. If you need i can take it out.

The supreme court acquitted her. Do you know more law than SC? If yes, then take your case to the police station. The SG and CG will be more than happy to help with your case.

She was punished in lower court for that, After she has denied that it was not her signature she was acquitted and read strictures by SC judge in that case.

Yes Congress and DMK are the saviors of SL Tamils. Happy? Atleast she was consistently anti LTTE (which is the correct stand - they are after all a terrorist organization who killed our PM in our own soil).

yes you right I hate DMK and congress for this issue, Infact i flew back to Chennai from UAE to vote against DMK and congress. But TN people have decided the other. Please dont use words like Terrorist organisation let us talk about this later.

How convenient you forgot MK tearing the sari of JJ in 89 in front of the whole assembly (do you even understand what a cheap mentality that is?) and arresting her immediately after coming to power in 96. When was TN ever in turmoil?? Why do you care if she donates an elephant or a monkey to temple? Its her personal belief and you dont have any right to question it.

What were the words uttered by her in Budget session before such incident supposed to have taken place. It was not MK who did that. It was usual practice of JJ she complained like this against so many people (chenna reddy, RM V so many people)

When MK was arrested whole TN was in turmoil she along with her associate went to kerala to donate elephant. Her act just reminded of Nero.


What about it?

21 People have died during Mahamaham festival in kumbokonam when both udanpirva sisters were taking bath.


During 91-96 - yes. But in 01-06 she actually made it a point not to disturb the traffic when she is leaving for secretariat. Not only that, she also made it a point not to wear any jewelery after 96 (we ladies note it very well, you cannot cheat us on that).

Not true. we have suffered this time too may not be like earlier.

I can deny. Prove it.

I can quote so many incidents. You also give such incidents during MK's rule.

I already replied to it. JJ of 01-06 was profoundly much better than 91-96. There is no reason why we cant expect a better JJ this time too.

You are highly positive. I strongly feel this time Capital of TN will be changed to Kodanadu. Do you have any property there.


In your case its easy to see who is mamiyar and who is marumagal.

Do you need some more incident i Can add so many such incidents May be another five pages of thread will be consumed.

1) Attack on the reporters during MK's arrest and attack in procession by Veeramani's goondas

2) Mass dismissal of government staff

3) Stopping of metro and ill treating Sreedharan.

4) False case against ramesh Stalin's friend and forcing them to death.

5) Transfer of Official's and minister at her wish

6) Appointing O.pannerselvam as Chiefminister

If some body believes that even after all these TN developed during her regime what can i say to them.

But once again i am reiterating she has got much potential to develop TN but I think there some psycological or historical reason she is not doing deliberately.

Jayalalitha may contest from Gobi.

Karunanidhi may not contest this time. He is thinking about issuing statement that he don't want to contest in elections till DMK name is cleared of 2G. In reality he wants to test with Stalin about how DMK will perform after him by staying out. He himself seemed to resign to the fact that it's advantage Jaya this time and thinking about playing his cards for long-term benefit of the party (and probably his son).

Heard it thru a grapevine 2 days back and these 2 articles @ thatstamil (1 (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/03/09/jaya-may-contest-from-gobi-aid0090.html) & 2 (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/03/09/karunanidhi-may-not-contest-the-polls-aid0128.html)) also seem to lean towards it.

Jayalalitha may contest from Gobi.

Karunanidhi may not contest this time. He is thinking about issuing statement that he don't want to contest in elections till DMK name is cleared of 2G. In reality he wants to test with Stalin about how DMK will perform after him by staying out. He himself seemed to resign to the fact that it's advantage Jaya this time and thinking about playing his cards for long-term benefit of the party (and probably his son).

Heard it thru a grapevine 2 days back and these 2 articles @ thatstamil (1 (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/03/09/jaya-may-contest-from-gobi-aid0090.html) & 2 (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/03/09/karunanidhi-may-not-contest-the-polls-aid0128.html)) also seem to lean towards it.


any room booked in Apollo?

But once again i am reiterating she has got much potential to develop TN but I think there some psycological or historical reason she is not doing deliberately.
She has a huge potential to develop herself also! (psychological not physical)

any room booked in Apollo?

Why Apollo? Logically it should be in US or UK :)

Why Apollo? Logically it should be in US or UK :)

US or UK means paduthukitte jeyichuruvar.. apuram ungalluku innum 5 varusham naraga vedhanaya irukkum... :lol: parava illaya..

^^ jeyichittu pogattum!! ennaya apollo-la padukka vekkama irukara varikkum ok-than :)

^^ DMK contesting in 121, congress in 63 - more than half the seats of DMK.Shameful for DMK:bash:

what shameful?? athellam paatha pondatti pullaya yaaru kaapathurathu.....?!?!

What happened to ADMK alliance ?? I read in news they finalize seats for communists and MDMK before yesterday (9th) evening.

what shameful?? athellam paatha pondatti pullaya yaaru kaapathurathu.....?!?!

Very true. He is a good father and nice husband.

கடந்த சட்டசபை தேர்தலை போல், இம்முறையும் தி.மு.க., தேர்தல் அறிக்கையில் ஏதாவது ஒரு பொருள் இலவசமாக வழங்கப்படும் என்ற அறிவிப்பு நிச்சயம் இடம்பெறும் என பெண் வாக்காளர்கள் எதிர்பார்க்கின்றனர்.

கடந்த சட்டசபை தேர்தலில் அனைவருக்கும் இலவச கலர் "டிவி' என்ற தி.மு.க.,வின் தேர்தல் வாக்குறுதி வாக்காளர்களை வசியம் செய்தது; தி.மு.க., கூட்டணிக்கு வெற்றியையும் தந்தது. இம்முறையும் பொதுமக்களிடம், குறிப்பாக பெண்களிடம், ஒவ்வொரு கூட்டணியும் என்ன இலவசமாக வழங்கும் என்ற எதிர்ப்பார்ப்பு நிலவி வருகிறது. குறிப்பாக, கிரைண்டர், மிக்ஸி, வாஷிங்மிஷன் என ஏதோ ஒரு பொருள் இலவசமாக கிடைக்கும் என்ற எதிர்பார்ப்பு உள்ளது. குறிப்பாக, கிராமப்புறங்களில், பெண்கள் அதிகம் கூடும் இடங்களான சந்தை, வயல்வெளி, ஆடு, மாடு மேய்க்கும் இடங்களில் இலவச பொருட்கள் குறித்து பரபரப்பாக பட்டிமன்றமே நடத்தி வருகின்றனர்.

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=201998

^^ Very sad such a crappy entitlement mentality has become ubiquitous. The price we will have to pay is democracy and ourselves.

If DMK comes with such freebie scheme this time, Voters must ask how they plan to pay for that.. Its high time people start tracking government's finances (esp loopholes)

Why Apollo? Logically it should be in US or UK :)

US,UK hospitals may not issue fake medical report, Apollo can claim sever heart attack. :)

She has a huge potential to develop herself also! (psychological not physical)

Often seen similar statements. Based on what people think she has potential?
She never showed any brilliance either in administration or vision in all the chances she got to lead.
The best reason that I have got so far as justification for the above statement is 'She can speak in good english'. Is that a good qualification to lead? then we must fill our assembly halls with toilets cleaners/ home less beggars from USA, they all speak good english.

I am not saying that MK is a geniis/visionary.

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தனிநபர் வருமானத்தில் கோவா முதலிடம்: தமிழகம் எங்கே? (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=202697)

தனிநபர் ஆண்டு வருமானத்தில் கோவா மாநிலம் முதலிடம் பெற்றுள்ளதாக, பார்லிமென்ட் விவகாரத்துறை இணையமைச்சர் அஸ்வினி குமார் தெரிவித்துள்ளார்.

இது தொடர்பாக, பார்லிமென்ட் விவகாரத்துறை இணையமைச்சர் அஸ்வினி குமார், லோக்சபாவில் எழுத்துப்பூர்வமாக அளித்த பதிலில் கூறியிருப்பதாவது: நாட்டில், கடந்த 2009-10ம் நிதியாண்டில், தனிநபர் ஆண்டு வருமானத்தில் கோவா மாநிலம் முதலிடம் பெற்றுள்ளது. அம்மாநில ஆண்டு தனிநபர் வருமானம் 1 லட்சத்து 32 ஆயிரத்து 719 ரூபாய். இந்த பட்டியலில் சண்டிகார் இரண்டாம் இடத்தை பெற்றுள்ளது. சண்டிகாரின் தனிநபர் ஆண்டு வருமானம் 1 லட்சத்து 20 ஆயிரத்து 912 ரூபாய். மூன்றாம் இடத்தில் உள்ள டில்லியின் ஆண்டு தனிநபர் வருமானம் 1 லட்சத்து 16 ஆயிரத்து 886 ரூபாய். இப்பட்டியலில் பீகார் மாநிலம் கடைசி இடம் பெற்றுள்ளது. இம்மாநிலத்தின் ஆண்டு தனிநபர் வருமானம் 16 ஆயிரத்து 119 ரூபாய். தமிழகத்தில் தனிநபர் ஆண்டு வருமானம் 62 ஆயிரத்து 499 ரூபாய்.

DMK vandhaalum sari , AIADMK vandhaalum sari..enga veettu tap'la thanni vara maatengudhu...edhaavadhu pannungappa..

DMK vandhaalum sari , AIADMK vandhaalum sari..enga veettu tap'la thanni vara maatengudhu...edhaavadhu pannungappa..

Motor potu tank la thanni yethuna tapla thanni varum. Simple...:):) Ithukku yen DMK vum ADMK vum varanum???:nuts::nuts:

Motor potu tank la thanni yethuna tapla thanni varum. Simple...:):) Ithukku yen DMK vum ADMK vum varanum???:nuts::nuts:

மோட்டார் வைத்து உறிஞ்சினால் நடவடிக்கை எடுக்க உறுதி
உடுமலை : "உடுமலை நகராட்சி பகுதியில், மோட்டார் வைத்து குடிநீர் உறிஞ்சினால், சட்டப்படி நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கப்படும்' என நகராட்சி நிர்வாகம் எச்சரிக்கை விடுத்துள்ளது.உடுமலை நகராட்சி கமிஷனர் சுந்தராம்பாள் வெளியிட்டுள்ள அறிக்கை:உடுமலை நகராட்சி பகுதிகளில், நகராட்சி குடிநீர் வினியோக திட்டத்தில், வீடுகளுக்கு வழங்கப்பட்ட குடிநீர் இணைப்பில், நேரடியாக மின்மோட்டார் பொருத்தி குடிநீர் உறிஞ்சுவது சட்ட விரோதமான செயலாகும். வீட்டு இணைப்பு உரிமையாளர்கள் இது போன்ற நடவடிக்கையில் ஈடுபட்டது கண்டுபிடிக்கப்பட்டால், குடிநீர் இணைப்பு நிரந்தரமாக துண்டிக்கப்படுவதுடன், சட்டப்படி நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கப்படும். கோடை காலம் என்பதால், பொதுமக்கள் குடிநீரை சிக்கனமாக பயன்படுத்துவதுடன், காய்ச்சி குடிக்க வேண்டும் என அறிக்கையில் கூறியுள்ளார்


dmk/admk varangalo illayo, neenga sonna idea va follow panna kandipa police varuvanga :lol: J/K

Motor potu tank la thanni yethuna tapla thanni varum. Simple...:):) Ithukku yen DMK vum ADMK vum varanum???:nuts::nuts:

motor pottu katha yethuna eppadi thanni varum? keela thanni venumla? adhukku than DMK / ADMK -va vara solli kettirukaru :)

AArambichutangappa

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Motor potu tank la thanni yethuna tapla thanni varum. Simple...:):) Ithukku yen DMK vum ADMK vum varanum???:nuts::nuts:

Ada ponga pa, currente kidayaathaam! ithula etha vachi motora run panrathu:)

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When such a simple act can fetch you vote, why to think about development.

That is Wlbkng signature here is very important to remember when we are encountering with such Arasial viyathi's

It is interesting to see all you youngsters fighting out in the cyber world.

My first request to you all is TO VOTE in this election, preferably during the first hour itself (to avoid the scene of your name in the already voted list).

You may vote for whatever Party, you wish. But VOTE PLEASE.

I have been involved in the developments happening in TN for the past 15 years actively - mainly in Private sector to start with and of late with more in Govt sector also.

I have worked under and also along with both the Parties. So I have a somewhat insider look into the issues compared to you guys & the Gal, who go generally by TV and Print media.

If you see the developments happening, it is obvious that the pace and volume is much more during the last 5years compared to the previuos 5 years. This is true for entire India and not limited to TN.

JNNURM schemes (infra) though conceived and planned earlier took shape mainly during the last 5 years. Cell phone Explosion, Media Explosion all happened all over India during the last 5 years.

Money for infrastructure and other developments poured in due to policy changes by the central govt, which were conceived and started during Vajpayee period and continued with more vigour by Congress Govt.

So comparing volumes alone will not be a correct method. I would rather compare the attitude, policy making, decision making, corruption and will to complete a project, which is important to the state.

The major difference between JJ & MK is that JJ did not have a team of good personal advisors (apart from IAS), who can think beyond the petty Party politics. More than MK, Stalin has a good team of advisors.

JJ, in spite of being in the film world for decades, do not have a proper PR team to project her in the media. Thanks to Maran (Sr & Jrs), MK has been the best towards media and has a very favourable press.

JJ allowed her name to be used by a family for their gains, whereas MK has an iron grip over what to do, what not to do, except in 2G issue, which went beyond his control also, due to his weakness for his daughter.

ATTITUDE:
JJ: Eager to learn, Arrogant, Egoistic & Aggressive (mainly due to the Lone Female Syndrome in a Male dominated world - more as a form of defencive tactic), Able Administrator (Quick to understand & Quick to decide), Relying more on Instinct than pragmatic, Believing a few who are closer to her

MK: Old School of thought, Never to forget past deeds & vengence, Pre Conceived Opinions, Selfish, Great Manipulator, Knows when to be dominant & when to be submissive, knack of helping & taking care of those who matter most, Planning for his / his family dominance over Party

(To be continued)

If you see the developments happening, it is obvious that the pace and volume is much more during the last 5years compared to the previous 5 years. This is true for entire India and not limited to TN.


This is so not true, TN had maximum central fund for infrastructure during TR Balu tenure in spite of JJ.
You seen to be suggesting that the current UPA govt is the best that India has had since independence.


The major difference between JJ & MK is that JJ did not have a team of good personal advisors (apart from IAS), who can think beyond the petty Party politics. More than MK, Stalin has a good team of advisors.

Here things have not changed; she is not going to have a team this time also so are you saying do not vote for her


So comparing volumes alone will not be a correct method. I would rather compare the attitude, policy making, decision making, corruption and will to complete a project, which is important to the state.


It is performance alone that matter, we elect leaders to govern us how they govern us is the only important thing. You talk about attitude, why would you do that, here we have candidates that have ruled us more than once, and should we not see how they performed?
Why should I care if the ruler is a male/female?
Is there a difference if the looters are the leader’s girl friend or Son?
Is deciding faster better or deciding smarter better? If the former than a LKG student with a coin flip is the best leader.

Giving credit to central govt for all the developments in TN is hilarious. Did all the states benefit equally by the CG largesse? State that bargained harder got better benefits, Amma did not care for that benefits but Thatha did, please be mature enough to the devil its due.

If you can please list the achievements of JJ, I have been looking for it for more than a decade.

ATTITUDE:
JJ: completing a task which she believes in at any cost (good or bad), Brilliant Comprehension of any issue, Megalomaniacal tendencies, Theist, Best output if cornered (Confident during any crisis), Playing one against another within party (on ill advice from close circle), Hatred towards MK & his family

MK: Not going deep into any admin issue, Short Term view, Taking a decision not on true merits but on the fall out from his benefit angle, Scheming & Wily, Outwardly Atheist, Crankiness if cornered, Excellent Management of Intra Party tangles, (except the Great Sibling Rivalry), Cheap methods & vulgar tactics to criticise JJ & clan


POLICY MAKING:
JJ: Listens intently to the presentations made by the IAS & Engineers and contributes productively and adds value, Drives everybody mad till her decision is implemented at the ground level, Goes by the advice of IAS & Auditors in financial matters & fiscal policy, Not afraid to levy tax on people if needed, Does not have independent Advisory panel out of IAS lobby (to gauge people's mood / reaction and for course correction midway). Treating other ministers as mere figureheads, Not building a second Line of Leadership, Lack of Delegation in true sense, Lack of Diplomatic Niceties, Blunt, Long Term View Perception, if presented with proper Facts & Projections, Transfers of IAS / IPS officers hapazardly on ill advice from the close circle

MK: Goes by the brief prepared by his assistant, Average Comprehension of Policies and with a very short Term view, Uses the Red Tape & Lethargy within the Govt to his advantage, prefers North Indian IAS / IPS officers who are accomodative, planning IAS / IPS and other Govt appointments / transfers tactfully and gaining max out of the same, Honed Skills for siphoning public funds, Managing & Maintaining the 2nd line of leaders in control, Subservient to Central Govt when it matters, Very flexible & ductile in policy


CORRUPTION:
JJ: Allowed her coterie to make more money in her name without any control
Very blatant & upfront in her approach wrt to bribes and does not cover her tracks well. Ministers were afraid to go beyond a point due to fear. Does not have the wilyness & wherewithal to extract more money from a particular situation

MK: Scientific Planning & Great execution. Technically correct approach which can not be disputed later. Allows ministers to make money provided that the agreed portions are paid. Creates situations to extract more money. Uses Judiciary, Executive & Legislature brilliantly to cover his tracks and also to pin the opposition down & extract benefits out of them also.

COMPLETING A TASK:
JJ: In positive side, JJ is way ahead eg Veeranam Scheme, SHGs, RWH, Cycles to female students, water supply to rural areas. In Negative side, she is blissfully unaware of the progress of other schemes which are normal but closer to her heart

MK: In positive side, He drives the projects if it is going to help him in a big way. (Land Acquisition for SIPCOT, Road Projects, Sethu Samudhram, 2G etc)
He has a tab on each & every task even the minor ones and milk them to the maximum. Not bothered about their completion. Knows how to market even a small event. eg: Old Veeranam scheme, Cooum cleaning, Ulavar Sandhai, Samathuvapuram, Thousands of MOU signed, advertised and silently abondoned etc.

MK Stalin: Though in his younger years, he was nowhere near in qualification, of late, he has developed a knack of keeping people with knowledge as advisors. This has done some good for the state. Marans will be an asset even though there will be a lurking suspicion on their ambitions. He has understood that by bringing in big projects, he stands to gain both politically & financially. He should get rid of the old Bandicoots in the party and promote the young & educated who believe in DMK idealogy.

But both Mk & Stalin fail miserably, when it comes to family. It is blatant aggression towards others and which looks like over confidence, which may backfire.

JJ, if she escapes from the clutches of her coterie may make an excellent CM. She should also develop a lasting relationship with the Central Government (despite politically opposite sides). She should develop a second line of leadership preferably from the young & educated mass with commitment for a long term sustenance. She should develop a back channel (apart from the official & political) to get true unadulterated facts from the field.

This is so not true, TN had maximum central fund for infrastructure during TR Balu tenure in spite of JJ.
You seen to be suggesting that the current UPA govt is the best that India has had since independence.


Here things have not changed; she is not going to have a team this time also so are you saying do not vote for her



It is performance alone that matter, we elect leaders to govern us how they govern us is the only important thing. You talk about attitude, why would you do that, here we have candidates that have ruled us more than once, and should we not see how they performed?
Why should I care if the ruler is a male/female?
Is there a difference if the looters are the leader’s girl friend or Son?
Is deciding faster better or deciding smarter better? If the former than a LKG student with a coin flip is the best leader.

Giving credit to central govt for all the developments in TN is hilarious. Did all the states benefit equally by the CG largesse? State that bargained harder got better benefits, Amma did not care for that benefits but Thatha did, please be mature enough to the devil its due.

If you can please list the achievements of JJ, I have been looking for it for more than a decade.

Premature Problems, eh..???? Please understand what is written first.

I have just given my observations from close quarters for the past 15 years and I have not asked you to follow what I say.

If you can please list the achievements of JJ, I have been looking for it for more than a decade.

Many have asked for the list in this thread, didnt get one yet. All are keen on what thatha didnt do for that state. Even if he did something, its been tagged as natural progression or its by CG or JNNURM. Even if its CG/JNNURM, I really doubt JJ would have brought such shares to TN. Really dont know what achievements jj did in the past to hail her.

Many have asked for the list in this thread, didnt get one yet. All are keen on what thatha didnt do for that state. Even if he did something, its been tagged as natural progression or its by CG or JNNURM. Even if its CG/JNNURM, I really doubt JJ would have brought such shares to TN. Really dont know what achievements jj did in the past to hail her.

You folks keep asking again and again doesn't matter how many times we give the list. Here u go again (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=74011185&postcount=4371). Kannan gave you a balanced view on both sides that also includes JJ's achievements in his last post. All you have to do is open your eyes and read the discussion forum instead of just selectively reading the points you want. If you folks ask again then it will be clear that you don't want to read or hear anything outside Murasoli, Sun TV or Kalaigner TV :)

Here is one from Tamizharuvi Maniyan article (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=509:2011-03-09-06-29-07&catid=10:2010-10-16-14-42-56), where he sees both sides of Jaya. Here is the positives he mentioned.

போகட்டும். உங்கள் 10 ஆண்டு ஆட்சியில் நல்லதே நடக்கவில்லை என்று நான் சொல்லவில்லை. கந்துவட்டிக் கொடுமையில் இருந்து ஏழைகளைக் காப்பாற்றிய நடவடிக்கை, பாமர மக்களின் வாழ்வாதாரத்தைச் சுரண்டிய லாட்டரி சீட்டுக்குத் தடை விதித்த நற்செயல், வீரப்பன் விவகாரத்துக்கு முற்றுப்புள்ளி வைப்பதில் வெளிப்படுத்திய துணிச்சல், காஞ்சி சங்கராச்சாரியாரைக் கைது செய்ததில் காட்டிய கண்டிப்பு, மழை நீர் சேகரிப்பில் மக்களை ஈடுபடுத்திய ஆளுமை, கலைஞரால் கை கழுவப்பட்ட வீராணம் திட்டத்தை வெற்றிகரமாக நிறைவேற்றிச் சென்னையின் தாகம் தவிர்த்த ஆட்சித் திறன், தாய்மை உணர்வுடன் தொடங்கிய தொட்டில் குழந்தைத் திட்டம் மூலம் வெளிப்படுத்திய சமூகப் பார்வை, கல்வி வளர்ச்சியைக் கருத்தில்கொண்டு பள்ளிப் பிள்ளைகளுக்கு இலவச சைக்கிள் வழங்கிய கருணை போன்றவற்றுக்காக நிச்சயம் நீங்கள் பெருமைப்படலாம். உங்கள் ஆட்சியின் சிறப்பு அம்சமாக மக்கள் மறவாமல் நினைப்பது சட்டம் - ஒழுங்கு பராமரிப்பு. கட்சிக்காரர்கள் அதிகாரம் செலுத்தும் கொத்தடிமைக் கூடங்களாக காவல் நிலையங்கள் கழிந்துபோக நீங்கள் அனுமதித்தது இல்லை!

Is this election going to be the last one for MDMK?
vaiko a good politician but unfit to suit today’s TN political scenario

Kannan... Great comparisons.. and I can see how much pains you have taken to keep it objective without introducing too many subectivity. Glad you shared your long term observations.

I find most folks in the admk vs dmk war seem to be overly biased one way or the other. Guess it from the passion and the pages..

As you have noted, the biggest -ve for JJ is her coterie. Equally big -ve of hers is she has no second and third tier leadership. She cannot be end all. Well she genuinely deserves to be an ADMK leader, but a true leader is one who can create more leaders who follow them. It happened to mighty alexander too.. no second level strong leaders (esp the ones who are loyal)..

MK definitely is family focussed, but atleast he has MKS and Marans (ditch MKA) as potential leaders.

If she can keep the coterie at a distance and promote leadership within her own party, she can morph into something better than we know.

Is this election going to be the last one for MDMK?
vaiko a good politician but unfit to suit today’s TN political scenario

If he survives financially till post MK period, he may get a chunk of Vaiko admirers, who are still in DMK due to power play compulsions.

He still draws huge crowds and appeals to 40+ 60- crowd. He is a tireless orator and talks very emotionally which draws the crowds.

But he is not in sync with the present day Power Plays.

I am curious to know how the present day Youth 20+ 30- view DMK or AIADMK. Rural Youth seem to favour Vijayakanth or Vijay. What about the city youth ?

Kannan... Great comparisons.. and I can see how much pains you have taken to keep it objective without introducing too many subectivity. Glad you shared your long term observations.

I find most folks in the admk vs dmk war seem to be overly biased one way or the other. Guess it from the passion and the pages..

As you have noted, the biggest -ve for JJ is her coterie. Equally big -ve of hers is she has no second and third tier leadership. She cannot be end all. Well she genuinely deserves to be an ADMK leader, but a true leader is one who can create more leaders who follow them. It happened to mighty alexander too.. no second level strong leaders (esp the ones who are loyal)..

MK definitely is family focussed, but atleast he has MKS and Marans (ditch MKA) as potential leaders.

If she can keep the coterie at a distance and promote leadership within her own party, she can morph into something better than we know.

sarath babu, bits,iima in dmdk has good potential.

sarath babu, bits,iima in dmdk has good potential.

That's a great point. Yes I do hope he brings in a different perspective to the alliace and DMDK in particular.

I really wish DMDK grows as a positive alternative to DMK/ADMK.

sarath babu, bits,iima in dmdk has good potential.

Yes!! That's a great point.

I really do hope that he brings in a new perspective to the alliance and DMDK in particular. I really wish DMDK grows as a positive alternative to DMK / ADMK. And Saratbabu can play major role in it

Y. Here is the positives he mentioned.

போகட்டும். உங்கள் 10 ஆண்டு ஆட்சியில் நல்லதே நடக்கவில்லை என்று நான் சொல்லவில்லை. கந்துவட்டிக் கொடுமையில் இருந்து ஏழைகளைக் காப்பாற்றிய நடவடிக்கை, பாமர மக்களின் வாழ்வாதாரத்தைச் சுரண்டிய லாட்டரி சீட்டுக்குத் தடை விதித்த நற்செயல், வீரப்பன் விவகாரத்துக்கு முற்றுப்புள்ளி வைப்பதில் வெளிப்படுத்திய துணிச்சல், காஞ்சி சங்கராச்சாரியாரைக் கைது செய்ததில் காட்டிய கண்டிப்பு, மழை நீர் சேகரிப்பில் மக்களை ஈடுபடுத்திய ஆளுமை, கலைஞரால் கை கழுவப்பட்ட வீராணம் திட்டத்தை வெற்றிகரமாக நிறைவேற்றிச் சென்னையின் தாகம் தவிர்த்த ஆட்சித் திறன், தாய்மை உணர்வுடன் தொடங்கிய தொட்டில் குழந்தைத் திட்டம் மூலம் வெளிப்படுத்திய சமூகப் பார்வை, கல்வி வளர்ச்சியைக் கருத்தில்கொண்டு பள்ளிப் பிள்ளைகளுக்கு இலவச சைக்கிள் வழங்கிய கருணை போன்றவற்றுக்காக நிச்சயம் நீங்கள் பெருமைப்படலாம். உங்கள் ஆட்சியின் சிறப்பு அம்சமாக மக்கள் மறவாமல் நினைப்பது சட்டம் - ஒழுங்கு பராமரிப்பு. கட்சிக்காரர்கள் அதிகாரம் செலுத்தும் கொத்தடிமைக் கூடங்களாக காவல் நிலையங்கள் கழிந்துபோக நீங்கள் அனுமதித்தது இல்லை!

Kandhu is eliminated? That is news to me

Veeranaman solved Chennai water problems? When there is no water in the source lake how can it deliver to Chennai. People giving credit to JJ for this has conveniently ignored Desalination efforts by Thatha; it is a perennial source and deserves a million more praises.
Rain water harvesting, it is highly debatable if that process per se contributed to water table increase. With surplus monsoon for the last several years RWH as implemented in Chennai houses is in fact redundant. The several hundred crores could have been spent in a more scientific manner to recharge Chennai water reservoirs.

Free cycle a populist move just like Tatha/MGR

Law and order, this is highly perception based. There is no statistics to prove either way. To me TN is always a peaceful state in either rule

The only Achievement I see is 'Banning lottery', one entry would not make a list at least it is a beginning!

sarath babu, bits,iima in dmdk has good potential.
Last time he got few thousand votes. He made a good decision to join DMDK.
one more person from DMDK is MaFoi Pandiyarajan.(virudunagar)..
In DMDK, vijayakant's wife Premalatha is getting more powerful, crowd puller and leader in making now.
L.K. Sudheesh, i hate him.. but no choice as long as he is with Vijayakant.

Kandhu is eliminated? That is news to me

Veeranaman solved Chennai water problems? When there is no water in the source lake how can it deliver to Chennai. People giving credit to JJ for this has conveniently ignored Desalination efforts by Thatha; it is a perennial source and deserves a million more praises.
Rain water harvesting, it is highly debatable if that process per se contributed to water table increase. With surplus monsoon for the last several years RWH as implemented in Chennai houses is in fact redundant. The several hundred crores could have been spent in a more scientific manner to recharge Chennai water reservoirs.


This is a purely apolitical response.

Veeranam - I believe this was to only bring the surplus and also focussed on enhancing the veeranam storage.

desal - well hold your million (mostly blinded jalras) praises. It has its own kinks and will show up its other side in next 5-10 sides. Having said that Desal option has eased the pressure on chennai a little bit for sure.

RWH -Your idea of improving the storage is definitely still wanted (why thatha didnt get that idea.. wonder wonder...) But RWH is a key component of a larger strategy (again talking apolitical.. not ADMK vs DMK) It again highlights the individuals have to take collective effort.

The RWH was a move that was good enough to get results that many other cities are mulling their implementation.

The critical components missing are :

a) Catchment area improvement
b) Working on creating newer reservoirs, even if its in neighboring districts. Improving the existing ones.
c) The water bodies have been literally raped (I personally have seen this happen more under thatha.. but let me stay apolitical here in the response)
Good example, Korattur, ambattur lakes and their feeder lakes/pnds (the last one has virtually vanished).
d) Proper CMDA planning - allowing vertical growth of the city will help retain more open spaces.

Yes!! That's a great point.

I really do hope that he brings in a new perspective to the alliance and DMDK in particular. I really wish DMDK grows as a positive alternative to DMK / ADMK. And Saratbabu can play major role in it

hmmm.. many educated youths are coming into mainstream politics which is a good sign.. did yu ppl hear abt the iim-c grads joining trinamool congress.. one of them is a chennai guy :)

...
COMPLETING A TASK:
JJ: In positive side, JJ is way ahead eg Veeranam Scheme, SHGs, RWH, Cycles to female students, water supply to rural areas. In Negative side, she is blissfully unaware of the progress of other schemes which are normal but closer to her heart

MK: In positive side, He drives the projects if it is going to help him in a big way. (Land Acquisition for SIPCOT, Road Projects, Sethu Samudhram, 2G etc)
He has a tab on each & every task even the minor ones and milk them to the maximum. Not bothered about their completion. Knows how to market even a small event. eg: Old Veeranam scheme, Cooum cleaning, Ulavar Sandhai, Samathuvapuram, Thousands of MOU signed, advertised and silently abondoned etc.
..

Kannan,

A very balanced and cogent article. Great write up!!!

Cheers,
VS

-dup post-

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Madras-tiffin/Article1-671881.aspx

circa 2006...LOL: http://www.sysindia.com/forums/Politics/posts/2496.html

In DMDK, vijayakant's wife Premalatha is getting more powerful, crowd puller and leader in making now.
L.K. Sudheesh, i hate him.. but no choice as long as he is with Vijayakant.

Another Political family. I dont know why no body blames this. I feel Premalatha could be dangerous if she gets power.

Another Political family.I feel Premalatha could be dangerous if she gets power.
TN has CMs (Leaders with their family) as well as Leaders without their family, but with the friends...
so nothing wrong in 3rd party to have the same thing.. After all "woman behind the success of man"...
Vijayakanth is far better than thatha who has manaivi, thunaivi, etc..

I dont think Premalatha is that much dangerous when compared to thatha's 2nd family..

TN has CMs (Leaders with their family) as well as Leaders without their family, but with the friends...
so nothing wrong in 3rd party to have the same thing.. After all "woman behind the success of man"...
Vijayakanth is far better than thatha who has manaivi, thunaivi, etc..

I dont think Premalatha is that much dangerous when compared to thatha's 2nd family..
why do u thin so, give them 20 mps and 33% vote we will see the results.
I dont see vijaykanth as an alternative to dmk/admk he is another cut throat who wants to milk money and openly using his family.
I would vote for vaiko and give him a chance rather.

Thatha is trying hard (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=514:2011-03-10-03-11-33&catid=8:news).

Whether he is right or wrong, got to applaud this man (well not for this news!!). At his age (if alive) I am not sure if I will be mobile or if I can think. We have someone who is planning strategies for elections @ 87..

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/1132011/slm1103pgeffe16ph1.jpg

Vijay as Ponniyin Selvan.

This is so not true, TN had maximum central fund for infrastructure during TR Balu tenure in spite of JJ.
Giving credit to central govt for all the developments in TN is hilarious. Did all the states benefit equally by the CG largesse? State that bargained harder got better benefits, Amma did not care for that benefits but Thatha did, please be mature enough to the devil its due.

Valid point. budget la ethavathu kidaikalaina TN Ministers onnu sernthu Kural kudukkalainu solrathu. Ethavathu kedacha, athu CG senjathunnu solrathu. என்ன கொடும சார் இது? Balu got lot of projects sanctioned (atleast). What JJ brought to TN from Vajpayee CG ??? Compare to what MK did, that is nothing

TN has CMs (Leaders with their family) as well as Leaders without their family, but with the friends...
so nothing wrong in 3rd party to have the same thing.. After all "woman behind the success of man"...
Vijayakanth is far better than thatha who has manaivi, thunaivi, etc..

I dont think Premalatha is that much dangerous when compared to thatha's 2nd family..

MK ku edutha vodane Manaivi Thunaivi laam varala. Thaniya arambichu family ya kootu sethukittar. Athu madhiri thaan Vijayakanth um. Ippa thaane wife lernthu aarambikkuthu. Poga poga valarum. Appa dangerours a illaya nu theriyum. :)

Enakku oru santhegam:

Naama ivlo peru intha forum la, avangala ellarayum naaradichutu irukom.. also neraya bloggers um kevala paduthitu irukaanga..
Ivanga itha ellam padichutu vetkame illama thiriyaranungala, illa naama ipdi pesarathulam ivangaluku theriyatha?

Enakku oru santhegam:

Naama ivlo peru intha forum la, avangala ellarayum naaradichutu irukom.. also neraya bloggers um kevala paduthitu irukaanga..
Ivanga itha ellam padichutu vetkame illama thiriyaranungala, illa naama ipdi pesarathulam ivangaluku theriyatha?

இதெல்லாம் அரசியல்ல சகஜமப்பா :lol:

Enakku oru santhegam:

Naama ivlo peru intha forum la, avangala ellarayum naaradichutu irukom.. also neraya bloggers um kevala paduthitu irukaanga..
Ivanga itha ellam padichutu vetkame illama thiriyaranungala, illa naama ipdi pesarathulam ivangaluku theriyatha?
This is like "evalavu thitinaalum avan tension aagama pannathayae panraan da. Avan romba nallavan da!". :)

Valid point. budget la ethavathu kidaikalaina TN Ministers onnu sernthu Kural kudukkalainu solrathu. Ethavathu kedacha, athu CG senjathunnu solrathu. என்ன கொடும சார் இது? Balu got lot of projects sanctioned (atleast). What JJ brought to TN from Vajpayee CG ??? Compare to what MK did, that is nothing

அது மத்திய அமைச்சருக்கும் மாநில அமைச்சருக்கும் உள்ள வித்தியாசம். உதாரணத்துக்கு கோவையில் ஏற்பட்ட முன்னேற்றங்கள் அனைத்தும் தில்லியில் இருந்து வந்தவை தான்.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnHOMYedxVs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnHOMYedxVs

Man! The first few mins tells why the politics in the state is so messed up.

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9153/p112.jpg (http://img854.imageshack.us/i/p112.jpg/)

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2802/p113.jpg (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/p113.jpg/)

Kandhu is eliminated? That is news to me

Veeranaman solved Chennai water problems? When there is no water in the source lake how can it deliver to Chennai. People giving credit to JJ for this has conveniently ignored Desalination efforts by Thatha; it is a perennial source and deserves a million more praises.
Rain water harvesting, it is highly debatable if that process per se contributed to water table increase. With surplus monsoon for the last several years RWH as implemented in Chennai houses is in fact redundant. The several hundred crores could have been spent in a more scientific manner to recharge Chennai water reservoirs.

Free cycle a populist move just like Tatha/MGR

Law and order, this is highly perception based. There is no statistics to prove either way. To me TN is always a peaceful state in either rule

The only Achievement I see is 'Banning lottery', one entry would not make a list at least it is a beginning!

It bugs me no end when people post without the right facts.
Minjur desalination plant MOU was signed in mid 2005 when JJ was CM. See attached link for proof. At that time 2G Raja was environment minister at Centre and did not give clearance to any TN project to spite JJ. As soon as DMK came back in 2006, they took it forward and also got more money for a second one in Nemeli.

http://www.befesa.es/corp/web/en/prensa/historico_de_noticias/2005/20050920.html

JJ gets credit for

1. Ford
2. Hyundai
3. Veeranam. This still supplies 180 mld/day due to Mettur getting filled more regularly these days. People shud remember that the water supply situation during JJ's time was so bad that evacuation was imminent in areas like Choolaimedu. This was a lifeline to Chennai.
4. Desal plant
5. Foreshore Estate eco park - groundwordk started by her

Everything else after 2006 - DMK can take credit.

http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/1904/dinamalarp.jpg

I have very little knowledge of TN politics but here are my feelings...

While DMK and AIADMK have done development works in different areas and on an on-off basis, I feel the bigger problem in TN politics is the below-the-belt tactics employed and the corrupt nature of politicians. None of them offer any creative vision..

On the night of the 2009 General Election results, the irrepressible Suhel Seth, opinion television's angry impresario for all seasons, described the DMK as Delhi Money for Karunanidhi. Seth's propensity to spit out the outrageous has made him a great favourite on talk shows and the DMK remark appeared to strike a chord with the chattering classes. After being in power at the Centre for all but one of the last fifteen years, the DMK seems to have been branded as a regional party that uses its clout in Delhi to build an election war-chest. Indeed, as the DMK faces a do-or-die battle in Tamil Nadu, the 2G scam has only heightened the party's image in the media as epitomizing political corruption.


M Karunanidhi, the octogenarian patriarch of the DMK family, has been cast in the role of an ageing political godfather, someone who is attempting to ensure a successful transition to his next generation by parceling the spoils of power between them. The children too are seen to be dividing the Dravida empire amongst themselves. Son and heir M K Stalin controls Chennai; the other son MK Azhagiri is responsible for southern Tamil Nadu while English-speaking daughter Kanimozhi was seen as the party's youthful face in Delhi till the 2G scam hurt her credibility. Not to forget the urbane Dayanidhi Maran, who had established a reputation for being a savvy union minister.


It all has the makings of a perfect, tightly-knit family business, like most regional parties in the country. Only the DMK is not just another regional force created around a personality cult like a Lalu Yadav's RJD or a Mamata Banerjee's Trinamool Congress. This is a party whose roots lie in agitational politics, in principles of social justice, rationalism and equality that shaped the Justice Party and later the Self-Respect movement of the 1920s in Tamil Nadu. The DMK traces its history to the powerful reformist agenda of E V Ramasami 'Periyar' who made a remarkable contribution to the non-Brahmin movement of the pre-independence period.


Karunanidhi, or Kalaignar, which means connoisseur of literature, was part of this great tradition of reformist Tamil society. His film scripts and passionate prose reflected his political idealism, shaped by the idea of creating an egalitarian society. Movies on themes like widow remarriage and religious hypocrisy earned him a deserved reputation of being at the vanguard of social change. By spearheading the language agitation of the 1950s and 60s, by being jailed during the Emergency in 1975, Karunanidhi was seen as a politician of courage and principles.


Yet, today, in the autumn of a long and distinguished career in public life, Karunanidhi is being reduced to a political caricature, a leader who is seen to have put family before ideology. By insisting on prized portfolios for DMK ministers, by issuing periodic threats to withdraw support to the center, by anointing his children in key posts, Karunanidhi has devalued the rich traditions of reformist zeal which once imbued his politics. Instead, he has allowed himself to become, like so many of his ilk, a dynastical politician who allows loyalty to his family to overwhelm all else.


It is indeed hard to believe that the benefits of the 2G scam were being monopolized by A Raja and friends without the knowledge of the Tamil Nadu chief minister, or that the money was not being transferred from Delhi to Chennai. Certainly, the manner in which Karunanidhi virtually held the UPA government to ransom in May 2009 while insisting that the telecom portfolio stay with the DMK is reason enough to believe that behind the muscle-flexing lay the desire to be part of the 2G loot. In parties like the DMK, an A Raja is only the trusted family retainer; the rules of the game are set by the head of the family. Karunanidhi, whatever his compulsions, cannot escape responsibility for the actions of Mr Raja.


Which is why, logically, the DMK should be heading for a resounding defeat in the forthcoming assembly elections in Tamil Nadu. Unfortunately, logic doesn't always fashion election results, and personal corruption need not always be an impediment in providing good governance, or determining voter preferences. At the recent IBN7 Diamond States awards, based on an extensive survey of the comparative performances of different states on social and human development indicators, Tamil Nadu emerged as the overall number one state, a tribute to its legacy of progressive administration.


During the last elections, Karunanidhi made two major promises: 2 rupees rice under the Public Distribution system and a free colour television for every family which did not have one. By all accounts, both schemes have been highly successful. A colour television for free may be scoffed at by the elite, but its role in giving a poor family 'recreational' benefits cannot be minimized. Moreover, the DMK government's schemes like providing a maternity assistance of Rs 1000 per month for six months and Rs 300 per month to unemployed youth amount to a direct cash transfer that bypasses bureaucratic procedures.


Which brings us to the larger question: can an efficient distribution of public utilities make corruption irrelevant in the popular imagination? There is a precedent. The late Y S Rajasekhar Reddy and family were seen to have enriched themselves when he was Andhra chief minister, but through his pro-poor schemes that again involved direct cash transfers, he was successfully re-elected. Will the YSR model work in Tamil Nadu, or will Karunanidhi be felled by the stench of family corruption? In the answer to that question lies the future of not just the DMK, but even the UPA at the center.`



http://ibnlive.in.com/blogs/rajdeepsardesai/1/62278/rajdeep-sardesai-will-tn-punish-karunanidhi.html

It bugs me no end when people post without the right facts.
Minjur desalination plant MOU was signed in mid 2005 when JJ was CM. See attached link for proof. At that time 2G Raja was environment minister at Centre and did not give clearance to any TN project to spite JJ. As soon as DMK came back in 2006, they took it forward and also got more money for a second one in Nemeli.

http://www.befesa.es/corp/web/en/prensa/historico_de_noticias/2005/20050920.html

JJ gets credit for

1. Ford
2. Hyundai
3. Veeranam. This still supplies 180 mld/day due to Mettur getting filled more regularly these days. People shud remember that the water supply situation during JJ's time was so bad that evacuation was imminent in areas like Choolaimedu. This was a lifeline to Chennai.
4. Desal plant
5. Foreshore Estate eco park - groundwordk started by her

Everything else after 2006 - DMK can take credit.


BMW
Foxconn
Dell
Nokia & its Finnish suppliers
Hitech SEZ - Motorola

Enakku oru santhegam:

Naama ivlo peru intha forum la, avangala ellarayum naaradichutu irukom.. also neraya bloggers um kevala paduthitu irukaanga..
Ivanga itha ellam padichutu vetkame illama thiriyaranungala, illa naama ipdi pesarathulam ivangaluku theriyatha?

comedy keemedy pannadheenga. paadhi perukku ezhudha padikave theriyadhu.. meedhiperukku computer use panna theriyadhu.. idhula naama ezhudharadha avanga padichittu feel vera pannuvangala.. :lol:

BMW
Foxconn
Dell
Nokia & its Finnish suppliers
Hitech SEZ - Motorola

Also if i am correct Siruseri SIPCOT got shape in 2004-05 and led to boom further.

comedy keemedy pannadheenga. paadhi perukku ezhudha padikave theriyadhu.. meedhiperukku computer use panna theriyadhu.. idhula naama ezhudharadha avanga padichittu feel vera pannuvangala.. :lol:

Atleast their peran/pethi, kollu peran, eellu perans would be surfing and might have come across this, blogs, orkut, fb etc., pavam.. avanga manasu evalo kasta padum. :nuts:

BMW
Foxconn
Dell
Nokia & its Finnish suppliers
Hitech SEZ - Motorola

I like to point to the fact that Maran Jr pushed Foxconn, Dell, Nokia to Chennai. Neither JJ or Karuna can cliam credit for it. DMK was lucky to have Maran. After he left the ministry, things slowed down drastically.
Nokia almost went to Goa.

I like to point to the fact that Maran Jr pushed Foxconn, Dell, Nokia to Chennai. Neither JJ or Karuna can cliam credit for it. DMK was lucky to have Maran. After he left the ministry, things slowed down drastically.
Nokia almost went to Goa.

You have been in this forum for a while, I though you would have better understanding of things work. I donno if you are really unaware or your love for a particular party refuses to see beyond Maran's photograph in the media. I will explain you about TN Govt's ( i dont see it as DMK or ADMK) efforts to bring in these investments at my leisure.

In the meantime, pls so some research about the background of Volkwagen, Nokia and Foxconn. It will save my time.

Dont assume I am a ADMK supporter, I am happy if they rule alternatively until a new leader/party emerges for the interest of TN & Tamils.

Also if i am correct Siruseri SIPCOT got shape in 2004-05 and led to boom further.

I can remember that JJ has opened the UK MNC Xansa in 2003 and the boom was from there on.

Some interesting Facebook pages..:lol:

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3876/53580561.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2254/25086205.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3835/69929771.jpg

^^

Manja paiyodu vanthar manja thundu.... ithu thirutu rail eri vanthathoda soopera irukku.

:rofl:

176 koodi illai... it is 1,76,000,000,000... moonu zero miss pannitanga.

vijay's profile and his status msgs were the ultimate.. lol on tr's comment. egypt pyramid mukkonam, vellore pakkathula arakkonam.. :lol: :lol:

Why no Sangavi on vijay friend list? Atleast she should've been there on "people you may know "

I would vote for vaiko and give him a chance rather.
Let Vaiko develop his party.. imagine his situation.. he started his own party in 90s. still he is running with thatha and Amma. He could not even bargain.
He could not even control his MLAs going to other side..
Vaiko is the biggest Joker :lol: in Tamilnadu politics..
He beat even Subramaniyam Swami... Atleast Subramaniyam Swami brought 2G Scam to limelight..

Let Vaiko develop his party.. imagine his situation.. he started his own party in 90s. still he is running with thatha and Amma. He could not even bargain.
He could not even control his MLAs going to other side..
Vaiko is the biggest Joker :lol: in Tamilnadu politics..
He beat even Subramaniyam Swami... Atleast Subramaniyam Swami brought 2G Scam to limelight..

For your kind information, people like Subramaniyam swami and Vaiko are not jokers. Rest of the politicians and media made the society believe that they are jokers.

There is a proverb that "Ammanama thiriyara oorula, kovanam kattunavan paithiyakaran". That fits well for Su.Swamy and Vaiko. In their field ofcourse they are jokers meaning -> Pozhaika theriyathavanga.

We need more people like them.

A group of 10 Christians from Oakland who call themselves Family Radio are travelling around the country preaching that the apocalypse is slated to happen on May 21 this year.

On that date a massive earthquake will shake the world apart, littering the ground with "many dead bodies," according to the not-so happy campers.

They say that those who believe in Jesus will go to heaven and the rest will be left to endure 153 days of "death and horror" before the world ends on October 21.

'Project Caravan', as it has become known, is made up of members of the Family Radio network all of who have given up jobs, families and all their possessions to join this final mission.

"I know it's absolutely true, because the Bible is always absolutely true. If I were not faithful that would mean that I'm a hypocrite," the Daily Mail quoted the group's leader, 89-year-old Harold Camping as saying to CNN.

Despite his conviction, Camping has predicted the world would end before - on September 4 1994. That, he says, was a mistake, a misreading of the biblical codes used to decipher the exact date of the 'rapture'.

According to them, Noah's great flood occurred in the year 4990 B.C., 'exactly' 7000 years ago. Taking a passage from 2 Peter 3:8, in which it is said a day for God is like a thousand human years, the church reasoned that seven 'days' equals 7000 human years from the time of the flood, making 2011 the year of the apocalypse.

In its second 'proof' the exact date is revealed by working forward from the exact date of the crucifixion - April 1, 33 AD. According to their reasoning, there are exactly 722,500 days from April 1, 33 A.D. until May 21, 2011 - the alleged day of judgement. This number can be represented as follows: 5 x 10 x 17 x 5 x 10 x 17 = 722,500.

The church then argues that numbers in the bible have special meanings, with the number 5 signifying atonement or redemption, the number 10 signifying 'completeness' and the number 17 equalling heaven.

'Ambassador' Sheila Jonas, another of the Family Radio faithful, said, "I'm in it until the end. This is so serious, I can't believe I'm here."

And for anyone harbouring doubts over the accuracy of the prediction, the group has a cast iron answer - "the Bible guarantees it." (ANI)

http://www.sify.com/news/doomsday-campers-predict-earth-will-witness-apocalypse-on-may-21-news-international-ldiladjichh.html?sifyoutbrainnewsrecco=obinsite

Siringada siringa.. boomadevi vaaya polakka poraa.. neenga ellam ulla poga poreenga.

KT: encountered this group yet?

http://www.sify.com/news/doomsday-campers-predict-earth-will-witness-apocalypse-on-may-21-news-international-ldiladjichh.html?sifyoutbrainnewsrecco=obinsite

Siringada siringa.. boomadevi vaaya polakka poraa.. neenga ellam ulla poga poreenga.

Yaarukaaga indha statement-u?

Nope, haven't heard of this group or this particular doomsday forecast.

Idha than namma yaagava munivarae 2001-la sollitu poyitare, innum pathu varushathula london azhinjidumnu :)

To all those laughing in the thread. look above almost all posts have :lol: or :rofl:

What they didnt decipher is the code "mallaka paduthaa pasumaadu, mount road la mala penja sudugaadu"

So sad we wont know who will win IPL 4.

What they didnt decipher is the code "mallaka paduthaa pasumaadu, mount road la mala penja sudugaadu"

So sad we wont know who will win IPL 4.

Decode senjitanga. "mallakka paduthu vittatha parkurathula enna sugamu" ninaichi decode senji paduthukittu irukaanga pola. Adhutha shot sequence-la ellarum therijipanga.

Idha than namma yaagava munivarae 2001-la sollitu poyitare, innum pathu varushathula london azhinjidumnu :)

Ayyayo appo adhukkula naan odi vandudaren.. :lol:


What they didnt decipher is the code "mallaka paduthaa pasumaadu, mount road la mala penja sudugaadu"

So sad we wont know who will win IPL 4.

I dont know why there is a sudden twist in this thread..

I already got cheated when they said world will get destroyed in 2000. :nuts:

Indha dhadavai naan emara maten.. We have grown well enough to learn that these things are planted by people who want to capitalise on the short term benefits from the people fearing due to these fake stories.

The mankind has seen hundreds of famines, volcano eruptions, earthquakes etc. The infiltration and effect of media and internet in current day is multiplying the magnitude and wreaking unnecessary havoc..

So lets move on TN related discussions :)
:cheers:

If Jayalalithaa is returned to it will be doomsday for Tamilnadu.She is arrogant and vindictive.The last time she was in power she foisted many false cases against many.Her foster son Sudhakaran and the girl from Madhurai amongst others.She attemtpted to arrest Malini Parthasarathy,editor of the hindu,Subramaniam Swamy and K.P Sunil of the defunct Illustrated Weekly of Inndia.The last mentioned for exposing theChicago Rahasyam.If you ask Subramaniam Swamy or E.V.K.S.Elangovan you will be able to findout what this rahasyam is.Do not forget that Vaiko was put in jail for 19 months by the Anbuchchakodar. srinivasan1@hotmail.

These doomsday cults are one step higher than Indian politicians in their humor value. Historically they have predicted the arrival of Jesus and apocalypse multiple times ... and everytime they say they got the decoding wrong (are they trained by weather forecast ppl.. everytime wrong.. )

There is another cult based on Mayan calendar claiming 2012 as the day.

Two reasons, I find - a real shaky foundation (esp the interpretation of Christ.. still respect HIM.. ) and declining #s of adherents.. some big bold proclamation usually with interviews from some very old ppl to prop it is the formula.

On a side note from Hindu flavor - The Bhavishya Purana (which predicted the arrival of Christ and Islam religions) does talk of the impending Kalki avatar.. Our guys quickly capitalized that also...

But in Hindu theology, the doom and gloom of Pralaya (Cosmic delusion) is not all -ve and is cosmic in nature.. Also we believe in Yugas which implies things go in cycles.. so there is a safety mechanism in interpretations (no safety from hypocrites though)

Thats a good example of aping the west.. and expecting rationale to be exclusive to west (Wonder why the Rationalists do not challenge this..)

If Jayalalithaa is returned to it will be doomsday for Tamilnadu.She is arrogant and vindictive.The last time she was in power she foisted many false cases against many.Her foster son Sudhakaran and the girl from Madhurai amongst others.She attemtpted to arrest Malini Parthasarathy,editor of the hindu,Subramaniam Swamy and K.P Sunil of the defunct Illustrated Weekly of Inndia.The last mentioned for exposing theChicago Rahasyam.If you ask Subramaniam Swamy or E.V.K.S.Elangovan you will be able to findout what this rahasyam is.Do not forget that Vaiko was put in jail for 19 months by the Anbuchchakodar. srinivasan1@hotmail.

Was just expecting some wisecrack to come with such interpretation.

When an atheistic DK rule didnt bring apocalypse, I think some theistic rule person (how ever egotistical) will not trigger it..

I guess it could be doomsday for thatha family if CBI sniffs a real case, if Supreme Court comes to know...also for Raja..

Looks like doomsday everywhere.. with tsunami in Japan.. So many marathadi josiyars reading the crystal ball.. wonder if the ball itself will melt.

So lets move on TN related discussions

Marubadiyuma? Ungalukku ellam bore eh adikaatha? konjam thread name kaavathu arattai adipom. Illati thread kovichukkum.

^^ Okay here u go. Namitha is now "tamizhagathin chella cheemati (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/heroines/2011/03/04-students-give-new-title-namitha-aid0136.html)".

Doubt: Is this a Chennai development and belong there since the title is conferred by Chennai college students? Apologize if I have posted it in wrong section of the TN forum :cheers:

Note to Mods: Please move this post to that thread if you think Chennai discussions is more appropriate :)

In Jeppiar college?? How did this happen? I heard that guy is a total jerk.
"Boy boy talk, girl girl talk but boy girl no talk".

I have seen one of his speeches in youtube

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"discipline is curry kolambu for sathyabama"
"seelapus","smart walking smile","same manner of father mother"

NEE PESU THALA

^^ Okay here u go. Namitha is now "tamizhagathin chella cheemati (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/heroines/2011/03/04-students-give-new-title-namitha-aid0136.html)".

Doubt: Is this a Chennai development and belong there since the title is conferred by Chennai college students? Apologize if I have posted it in wrong section of the TN forum :cheers:

Note to Mods: Please move this post to that thread if you think Chennai discussions is more appropriate :)

namma culture romba munneruthu athanaala ithu chennai development thread ku thaan poganum.

p.s: maatukellam onnum puriyaathu. vanthu paathutu mandaya mandaya aatittu poyiduvaanga.

If Jayalalithaa is returned to it will be doomsday for Tamilnadu.She is arrogant and vindictive
then how are you going to punish thatha for his corruptions?
2G scam corruption, big scam in land allotment,
TN State Transport Corporation is worst corrupted. they get funds for new buses and do not take care of maintenance. causing lot of accidents/so on.
Tax payer money is spent for color television.. no useful projects..
bringing the MNCs not achivement. MNCs will come if they have advantage over it.. does any money spent to improve the infrastructure for the growth? big zero..
In thatha's rule, Rowdies and anti social elements are raising...
TN State treasury is bankrupt because of freebies.....
you know how much TN has got a loan for development projects?

During JJ Period, our economy was good.. Thatha swindled all the money in terms of Freebies..
just for a thought.. money for TV set is given from Govt Treasury.. but people are paying for cable ..110 Rs/ month.. where this money goes?

Thatha is master in swindling money in a scientific way..Sarkaria commission has reported way back 33 yrs itself.

if it is thatha or JJ, we need to go with JJ for this time and lets see our options in 2016

In Jeppiar college?? How did this happen? I heard that guy is a total jerk.
"Boy boy talk, girl girl talk but boy girl no talk".

I have seen one of his speeches in youtube



"discipline is curry kolambu for sathyabama"
"seelapus","smart walking smile","same manner of father mother"

NEE PESU THALA

Enga thalaiviyoda saadhanai pathi pesikittu irukkum bodhu jeppiyar romba mukkiyam :bash:

Thalaivikku indha pattam thanthatha pathi unga karutha sollunga. Ennoda karuthu ennana, this title has value and better than "Illaya thalapathi" and "Puratchi thalapathi". Adhellam avangala vechikittathu, idhu makkal kuduthatu..

Tamizhaga makkal madayargal, moodargal. Tamizhagathin chella cheemaati endral athu Nayanthara mattume.

Nayantharavukku andha pattam tharalai-ngara varutham enakku irundhallum, Namikku kudutha dealing enakku romba pidichirukku.

Namiyum, Nayanum en iru kangal :)

Neer thanya unmayaana kongu thamizhan.

appadi ippadi indha arattai-la postu count yeridichi. Naanum seekirama oru 1000 postinga pottu counting-a kaamichi, namma ChennaiIndian-ku pottiya panchathukku maadu aaganum :lol:

CI -If you are reading this J/K :lol:

Are you planning to fly here to vote?

If my (official) trip aligns with that then yes

For your kind information, people like Subramaniyam swami and Vaiko are not jokers. Rest of the politicians and media made the society believe that they are jokers.
There is a proverb that "Ammanama thiriyara oorula, kovanam kattunavan paithiyakaran". That fits well for Su.Swamy and Vaiko. In their field ofcourse they are jokers meaning -> Pozhaika theriyathavanga.
We need more people like them.
Subramaniyam swami is not "Pozhaika theriyathavanga". He is not 100% politician and he does not want to be a big political lobby.. But he made sure that his presence is felt.

Vaiko, unfortunately he could not withstand the money power in politics.. he is not that much big as he thinks about himself.

Subramaniyam swami is not "Pozhaika theriyathavanga". He is not 100% politician and he does not want to be a big political lobby.. But he made sure that his presence is felt.

Vaiko, unfortunately he could not withstand the money power in politics.. he is not that much big as he thinks about himself.

Check this out. In 4 parts you might have to do some reading [1 (http://koottanchoru.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/%e0%ae%9a%e0%af%81%e0%ae%aa%e0%af%8d%e0%ae%b0%e0%ae%ae%e0%ae%a3%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%af-%e0%ae%9a%e0%ae%be%e0%ae%ae%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%af%e0%af%88-%e0%ae%9a%e0%ae%a8%e0%af%8d%e0%ae%a4%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%a4%e0%af%8d/), 2 (http://koottanchoru.wordpress.com/2010/07/04/சுப்ரமணிய-சாமியுடன்-விவா/), 3 (http://koottanchoru.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/சுப்ரமணிய-சாமியின்-அரசிய/), 4 (http://koottanchoru.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/சுப்ரமணிய-சாமி-என்னதான்/) ]. This reflects close to my view about Su. Swamy. In-fact I changed my opinion. He gained more respect after this..

Vaiko never thought himself as a big power. If that's the case he would have seriously tried for a 3rd front in TN.

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^^
On a related note, I just came across this site for reporting bribes that you were asked/refused to pay in any government office in your city..... check it out: http://www.ipaidabribe.com/

^^
On a related note, I just came across this site for reporting bribes that you were asked/refused to pay in any government office in your city..... check it out: http://www.ipaidabribe.com/

What do they plan to do with it? I don't see anything about how they are planning to proceed with the reported bribe incidents. I didn't go-thru the site completely, so it's possible that it might have slipped. But one would assume that it's clearly mentioned on FAQ's..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tamil/news/story/2011/03/110311_kaniquestioned.shtml

திமுக தலைவரும் தமிழக முதலமைச்சருமான கருணாநிதியின் மகள் கனிமொழி, மனைவி தயாளு அம்மாள் ஆகியோரிடம், சிபிஐ எனப்படும் மத்தியப் புலனாய்வுப் பிரிவு அதிகாரிகள் இன்று வெள்ளிக்கிழமை விசாரணை நடத்தினார்கள்.

2ஜி எனப்படும் இரண்டாம் தலைமுறை செல்லிடத் தொலைபேசி அலைக்கற்றை ஒதுக்கீட்டில் நடந்ததாகக் கூறப்படும் முறைகேடுகள் தொடர்பான விசாரணையின் ஒரு பகுதியாக அவர்களிடம் இந்த விசாரணை நடத்தப்பட்டுள்ளது.

சென்னையில் திமுக தலைமையகமான அண்ணா அறிவாலயத்தில் அமைந்துள்ள கலைஞர் தொலைக்காட்சி அலுவலகத்தில் இந்த விசாரணை நடத்தப்பட்டது.

மும்பையைச் சேர்ந்த ரியால்டி நிறுவனத்தின் துணை நிறுவனமான ஸ்வான் டெலிகாம், முறைகேடான அலைக்கற்றை ஒதுக்கீட்டில் பயனடைந்ததாகவும், அதைத் தொடர்ந்து 214 கோடி ரூபாயை வேறு நிறுவனம் மூலம் கலைஞர் தொலைக்காட்சிக்கு அந் நிறுவனம் வழங்கியதாகவும் புகார் கூறப்பட்டது.

இதுதொடர்பாக, கடந்த மாதம் கலைஞர் தொலைக்காட்சி அலுவலகத்தில் சிபிஐ அதிகாரிகள் சோதனை நடத்தினார்கள். அத்துடன், அந்த நிறுவனத்தின் மேலாண்மை இயக்குநர் ஷரத் குமாரிடம் விசாரணை நடத்தப்பட்டது. அவரிடம் 20 சத பங்குகளும், கனிமொழியிடம் 20 சதமும், தயாளு அம்மாளிடம் 60 சத பங்குகளும் உள்ளன.

பின்னர், கலைஞர் தொலைக்காட்சி நிர்வாகம் வெளியிட்ட அறிக்கையில், 214 கோடி ரூபாய், டி. பி. குரூப் நிறுவனமான சினியூக் பிலிமஸிடமிருந்து பங்குகள் பரிவர்த்தனைக்காக 214 கோடி ரூபாய் முன்பணமாகப் பெறப்பட்டதாகவும், ஆனால் பங்கு விலையில் ஏற்பட்ட முரண்பாட்டால் அந்தத் தொகை, வட்டியுடன் திருப்பித் தரப்பட்டதாகவும், அது வருமான வரித்துறைக்கும் தெரியும் என்றும் தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டது.

இந் நிலையில், அடுத்ததாக, கனிமொழியிடம் விசாரண நடக்கும் என்று தகவல்கள் வெளியாகி வந்தன. அதன்படி, இன்று விசாரணை நடைபெற்றது. ஆனால், தயாளு அம்மாளிடம் விசாரணை நடைபெறுமா என்று சந்தேகம் நிலவி வந்த நிலையில், அவரிடமும் சிபிஐ விசாரணை நடத்தியிருப்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது.

ஏற்கெனவே, திமுகவைச் சேர்ந்த முன்னாள் மத்திய அமைச்சர் ஆ. ராசா, அலைக்கற்றை ஒதுக்கீடு விவகாரத்தில் கைது செய்யப்பட்டு, சிறையில் அடைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளார். டி.பி. குரூப் நிறுவனத்தைச் சேர்ந்த ஷாகித் பல்வாவும் கைது செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளார்.

இன்றைய விசாரணை குறித்து, செய்தியாளர்களிடம் கருத்துத் தெரிவித்த கனிமொழி, ஏற்கெனவே கலைஞர் தொலைக்காட்சி மேலாண்மை இயக்குநர் ஷரத்குமார் தெரிவித்த தகவல்களை உறுதிப்படுத்தும் வகையில் தன்னிடம் கேள்விகள் கேட்கப்பட்டதாகவும் அனைத்து விவரங்களையும் தெரிவித்ததாகவும் கூறினார்.

http://www.sify.com/news/doomsday-campers-predict-earth-will-witness-apocalypse-on-may-21-news-international-ldiladjichh.html?sifyoutbrainnewsrecco=obinsite

Siringada siringa.. boomadevi vaaya polakka poraa.. neenga ellam ulla poga poreenga.

Only 70 days more... and 4 days in Office for JJ ? I pity JJ and Young India ..

I have seen enough of this Boologam.Time to return back to my abode, near the Polar Star!

Anybody saw yesterday Ban vs Eng match ??? B'desh won the match after they lost 8 wickets. Their Bowlers batted very well. Intha news a dinamalar la yeppadi theriyuma pottirukkan ??
"வால் ஆடியது: வங்கம் வென்றது!
எதுகை மோனை ல செய்தி போட்றதுல்ல தமிழ் செய்தித்தாள்களை அடிச்சிக்கவே முடியாது.

Satchitananda! Jayalalithaa has managed to postpone the verdict of the case being heard in Bangalore.Thus removing any hurdles in submitting her nominations for the assembly elections.In case Jayalalithaa succeeds in winning the elections and subsequently the courts find her guilty and sentences herto prison then even if she appeals in the higher courts she would be a Criminal Chief Minister.
srinivasan1@hotmail.

^^ Okay here u go. Namitha is now "tamizhagathin chella cheemati (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/heroines/2011/03/04-students-give-new-title-namitha-aid0136.html)".

Doubt: Is this a Chennai development and belong there since the title is conferred by Chennai college students? Apologize if I have posted it in wrong section of the TN forum :cheers:

Note to Mods: Please move this post to that thread if you think Chennai discussions is more appropriate :)

Aiya, Tamizhagathin Chella cheemati inu kodutha paravaillai. Tamizhagathin Nirandhira mudalvar or Akila ullaga Matha nu edavathu kodukama irunda sari.

Satchitananda! Jayalalithaa has managed to postpone the verdict of the case being heard in Bangalore.Thus removing any hurdles in submitting her nominations for the assembly elections.In case Jayalalithaa succeeds in winning the elections and subsequently the courts find her guilty and sentences herto prison then even if she appeals in the higher courts she would be a Criminal Chief Minister.
srinivasan1@hotmail.

Exactly.. Let the court convict her.

My poser to you is what if CBI finds the money trail leading to MK ?? and if he wins will he take the title of criminal chief minister...

JJ is no saint, but that definitely doesnt make MK or his tribe any better.

My point was only against your doomsday predicition that JJ will bring the doomsday.. I can only hope and pray that the next CM stays level headed.. vision oriented.. people friendly but not afraid to take bold decisions.. If JJ will step up to the plate.. good for her.. if MKS does that.. good as well..

But you cant expect that from a phony atheist rationalist octagenarian ..

I have a new theory.. MK has been preventing the doomsday .. warding it off with a manja thundu... :lol:

I wish someone like Subramanian Swamy can be in a mentorship role for the next CM.. only thing he wont get votes.. but he is a great thinker..

I sincerely wish the next CM be surrounded by good wise people who can speak the truth without bias.

Phoney,Atheist,Rationalist Octogenerian that Karunanidhi.Sri Sathya Sai Baba thought it fit to visit at his home.
srinivasan1@hotmail.

Phoney,Atheist,Rationalist Octogenerian that Karunanidhi.Sri Sathya Sai Baba thought it fit to visit at his home.
srinivasan1@hotmail.

what are you trying to say?

JJ's strategy (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/03/12/jayalalithaa-field-dmdk-take-on-pmk-north-tn-aid0090.html).

ADMK against congress, Vijaykanth against PMK in seat allocations. Remaining seats are where amma-captain combines will take on thatha

^^ Not at all surprising. With deep mistrust between the rank and file of congress and DMK, it is expected the DMK grass roots wont work very enthusiastically in congress constituencies. Infact pissed off powerful local functionaries whose chance of becoming MLA's were spoiled may even double cross in some constituencies. This makes congress a sitting duck for ADMK. I would be really surprised if congress win more than 10 seats.

btw a little patchi with political connections told me that Alagiri was very vocal in the last week standoff against congress in DMK seraykuzhu meeting. He is the one most uncomfortable aligning with congress. I don't know he has influence in Nagercoil and Kanyakumari but if yes, then congress is in a bit of bother as they are planning to contest a lot of seats there.

As far as PMK Vs DMDK goes, it makes sense. Vijayakanth has a higher capacity to cut into PMK's and VC's vote bank rather than JJ. I think atleast 25 of 41 seats will be in North TN. He wont get much in west and delta districts.

superb.. amma and thatha's kootu sathi... hope it works out well. :lol:

Congress will not get votes in urban cities like Chennai and other tier II and tier III cities... rurala thaan mudiyum.

காங்கிர கேட்டுள்ள தொகுதிகள் விவரம்:

1. ராயபுரம் (அ) துறைமுகம்
2. வேளச்சேரி
3. பூந்தமல்லி
4. உத்திரமேரூர் (அ)
செங்கல்பட்டு
5. ஸ்ரீபெரும்புதூர்
6. பொன்னேரி
7. ஆவடி
8. சோளிங்கர்
9. செங்கம்
10. ஆரணி
11. போளூர்
12. வேலூர்
13. செய்யார்
14. காட்டுமன்னார்கோயில்
15. ரிஷிவந்தியம்
16. ஓசூர்
17. சேலம் மேற்கு
18. ஓமலூர்
19. ராசிபுரம்
20. தொண்டாமுத்தூர்
21. கோவை தெற்கு
22. வால்பாறை
23. காங்கேயம்
24. மொடக்குறிச்சி
25. ஊட்டி
26. போடிநாயகனூர்(அ) கம்பம்
27. நிலக்கோட்டை
28. மதுரை மேற்கு
29. மேலூர்
30. வேடச்சந்தூர்
31. முசிறி
32. அரியலூர்
33. ஸ்ரீரங்கம்
34. மயிலாடுதுறை
35. பட்டுக்கோட்டை
36. பேராஊரணி
37. பாபநாசம்
38. திருமயம்
39. காரைக்குடி
40. திருவாடனை
41. மானாமதுரை
42. பரமக்குடி
43. ராமநாதபுரம்
44. விருதுநகர்
45. கடையநல்லூர்
46. நாங்குநேரி
47. ஸ்ரீவைகுண்டம்
48. தென்காசி
49. அம்பாசமுத்திரம்
50. குளச்சல்
51. கிள்ளியூர்
52. மணச்சநல்லூர்

இவைத் தவிர மேலும் 11 தொகுதிகளும் இனங்காணப்பட்டுள்ளதாக தெரிகிறது.

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Where is EVKS's Erode? ayyo pavam... vanga sir thangabalu Salem merkku la nilunga... ponathadava vetiya thaan orivinanga congress ku.. intha thadava? :lol:

Tshyam sonna mathiri bhooma devi vayapilaka poranga, ella ulla poga porom.

Thatha considering suing (http://savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=519:2011-03-12-13-39-32&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2)Dinamalar

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i think there are some serious issues in Aiadmk alliance. Amma inviting all smaller parties and allotting seats like Aismk(sarathkumar), kongu peravai but not inviting the remaining three big parties.(MDMK, CPI , CPM) .

it is believed that Amma has offered less seats to these parties compared to 2006 elections where they got CPM-13 , CPI-10 , MDMK- 35. so the buzz is that the three parties are planning to form a third front and contest against both Aiadmk & dmk.

the ruling Dmk is very happy to see this because it thinks that the opposition vote will split thereby helping DMK-congress combine to win.

analysts say Aiadmk has even not allotted the number of seats these parties will contest whereas the ruling DMK has almost finalised even the constituencies its combine will fight.

i think there are some serious issues in Aiadmk alliance. Amma inviting all smaller parties and allotting seats like Aismk(sarathkumar), kongu peravai but not inviting the remaining three big parties.(MDMK, CPI , CPM) .

it is believed that Amma has offered less seats to these parties compared to 2006 elections where they got CPM-13 , CPI-10 , MDMK- 35. so the buzz is that the three parties are planning to form a third front and contest against both Aiadmk & dmk.

the ruling Dmk is very happy to see this because it thinks that the opposition vote will split thereby helping DMK-congress combine to win.

analysts say Aiadmk has even not allotted the number of seats these parties will contest whereas the ruling DMK has almost finalised even the constituencies its combine will fight.

Jayalalitha is making a bigmistake by loosing vaiko, he is the only other star campaigner. I think giving the same number to commies and 18 seats to mdmk will keep them happy in the same alliance. Lets wait and see.

ராமநாதபுரம்: சேது சமுத்திர திட்ட மாற்றுப்பாதை ஆய்வுப் பணிகள் திடீரென முடிந்து விட்டதாகக் கூறி, அதற்கான கருவிகளை கரை சேர்த்துள்ளது சந்தேகத்தை எழுப்பியுள்ளது.

தி.மு.க.,வைச் சேர்ந்த டி.ஆர்.பாலு மத்திய அமைச்சராக இருந்த போது, சேது சமுத்திர திட்டம் துவங்கப்பட்டது. ராமர் பாலம் சர்ச்சையை தொடர்ந்து, திட்டம், சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட் விசாரணையில் உள்ளது. 600 கோடி ரூபாய்க்கு மேல் பணி மேற்கொள்ளப்பட்ட நிலையில், தாமதத்தால் அதற்கான பணிகள் வீணானது. யார் மனதையும் புண்படுத்தாத வகையில் மாற்றுப்பாதையில் திட்டத்தை நிறைவேற்றும் காரணிகளை கண்டறியுமாறு, மத்திய அரசுக்கு கோர்ட் வலியுறுத்தியது.

இதைத் தொடர்ந்து, பச்சோரி என்பவர் தலைமையில் கமிட்டி அமைக்கப்பட்டு, மாற்றுப் பாதை ஆய்வுப் பணிகளை மேற்கொள்ள வலியுறுத்தப்பட்டது. ஆனால், ஆய்வுப் பணிகள் ஆமை வேகத்தில் நகர்ந்தன. மாற்றுப்பாதை ஆய்வு அறிக்கை குறித்து மத்திய அரசிடம் கடந்த ஆண்டு சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட் கேள்வி எழுப்பியது. மத்திய அரசு தரப்பில் கால அவகாசம் கேட்கப்பட்டது. இதைக் கண்டித்த கோர்ட், குறிப்பிட்ட காலத்தில் மாற்றுப்பாதை பணிகளை நிறைவு செய்து, அறிக்கையை ஒப்படைக்குமாறு வலியுறுத்தியது. அதன் பின், மன்னார் வளைகுடா பகுதியில் மிதவை கருவிகள் பொருத்தப்பட்டு, கடலின் நீர் ஓட்டம், மண் அரிப்பு, தட்பவெப்பம், காற்றின் வேகம் போன்றவை கணக்கிடும் பணி நடந்தது. இயற்கை சீற்றத்தால், மாற்றுப் பாதை ஆய்வுப் பணியும் பாதிக்கப்பட்டது. இதற்கிடையில், சேது சமுத்திர திட்டப்பணிகளில் பணம் வீணடிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளதாக, அ.தி.மு.க., பொதுச் செயலர் ஜெயலலிதா அறிக்கையில் கூறியிருந்தார்.

இந்நிலையில் நேற்று, சேது சமுத்திர மாற்றுப்பாதை ஆய்வுப்பணிகள் நிறைவு பெற்றதாகக் கூறி, அதற்கான கருவிகள் படகுகள் மூலம் கரைக்கு கொண்டு வரப்பட்டன. பணிகள் தொடர்ச்சியாக முழுமை பெறாத நிலையில், திடீரென பணிகள் முடிந்ததாகக் கூறியிருப்பது சந்தேகத்தை கிளப்பியுள்ளது. ஆய்வுப்பணியின் தொழில்நுட்ப உதவியாளர் சிங் கூறியதாவது: பதினான்கு மாதமாக நடந்த ஆய்வுப்பணி நிறைவு பெற்றுள்ளது. இதற்கான அறிக்கைகள் முறையாக உயர் அதிகாரிகளுக்கு அனுப்பப்படும். இலங்கைக்கு மின்சாரம் கொண்டு செல்வதற்கான ஆய்வுக் கருவிகள் மட்டும் நடுக்கடலில் உள்ளன. சேது சமுத்திர மாற்றுப் பாதை ஆய்வுப் பணி கருவிகள், கரைக்கு கொண்டு வரப்பட்டுள்ளன. இவ்வாறு சிங் கூறினார்.


http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=204535
:bash:...Entire South TN's growth in a Big doubt again..:wallbash::skull::skull::skull:......:cripes::down::banned:....:stupid:...:deadthrea

superb.. amma and thatha's kootu sathi... hope it works out well.

Hope this works out. Both DMK and ADMK are digging their own grave by nurturing this 'poisonous plant' for long. Wish this plant dies.

The proverb "Aavathum Pennale ...." is laughing at DMK..The ripe big hole has turned 5 years of development initiatives to a big zero when it matters...Will be safe in an underground cell.

Since my main interest lies in Human Development,another term under Stalin to complete 'Huts free TN' scheme will be very welcome. I have been thinking about such a scenerio for long time. If JJ promises to complete that scheme if she wins will show her as a good leader.

I live in CBD and represented by Stalin and Maran in LA -LS. Most slum dwellers in our area (Mudaliars,Gounders-original DMK voters) are given Housing Board tenements and their way of life has become like any other simple Middle class folks. So proper housing provision can lift the standard of living of all.

Seeing a well nourished ,well clothed.well groomed Citizen is the first sign of Prosperity of a Nation.

அதிமுகவின் காக்க வைக்கும் போக்கு-விலகுகிறார் கார்த்திக்?


சென்னை: அதிமுக கூட்டணியிலிருந்து நடிகர் கார்த்திக் விரைவில் விலகுவார் என்று தெரிகிறது. அதிமுக தரப்பு தன்னிடம் எதுவும் பேசாமல் இருப்பதால் அவர் அதிருப்தி அடைந்துள்ளாராம்.


சரணாலயம் என்ற அமைப்பை நடத்தி வந்தவர் கார்த்திக். அந்த அமைப்புக்குக் கூடிய கூட்டத்தைப் பார்த்து அவரை அகில இந்திய பார்வர்ட் பிளாக் கட்சி அவரை தனது தமிழக பிரிவுக்குத் தலைவராக்கியது. ஆனால் அவரது போக்கு கட்சியினருக்கு பெரும் எரிச்சலை ஏற்படுத்தியதால் கட்சியை விட்டு நீக்கி விட்டனர் கார்த்திக்கை.

இதையடுத்து 2009ம் ஆண்டு அகில இந்திய நாடாளும் மக்கள் கட்சியைத் தொடங்கினார் கார்த்திக். கடந்த லோக்சபா தேர்தலின்போது பாஜகவுடன் கூட்டணி சேர்ந்து போட்டியிட்டது கார்த்திக் கட்சி. விருதுநகர் மற்றும் தேனி ஆகிய தொகுதிகள் கார்த்திக் கட்சிக்குக் கிடைத்தது. இதில் விருதுநகரில் கார்த்திக்கும், தேனியில் பார்வதி என்பவரும் போட்டியிட்டனர். இதில் இருவருமே டெபாசிட்டைப் பறி கொடுத்தனர்.

இந்த நிலையில், சமீபத்தில் போயஸ் கார்டன் சென்று ஜெயலலிதாவை சந்தித்து அதிமுக கூட்டணியில் இணைந்தார் கார்த்திக். தனது கட்சிக்கு 3 தொகுதிகள் தேவை என்றும் கோரினார். ஆனால் அதற்குப் பின்னர் இதுவரை அதிமுகவிடமிருந்து கார்த்திக்குக்கு அழைப்பு வரவில்லை. அதேசமயம், கார்த்திக் கேட்கும் தொகுதிகளைத் தர முடியாது என்றும் அதிமுக தரப்பு கூறி விட்டதாம். சரி, ஒரு தொகுதியாவது தாருங்கள் என்று கார்த்திக் தரப்பில் கேட்டபோது அதற்கும் பதில் வரவில்லையாம். அதாவது கார்த்திக்குக்கு ஒரு சீட் கூட கிடையாதாம். வெறும் ஆதரவு மட்டுமே போதும் என்று கூறி விட்டார்களாம்.

இதனால் கடுப்பாகியுள்ளார் கார்த்திக் என்கிறார்கள். அதிமுக தன்னை மறுபடியும் அழைக்காவிட்டால், தனித்துப் போட்டியிடுவது என்றமுடிவுக்கு அவர் வரப் போகிறாராம்.

அப்பாடா, பாஜகவுக்கு மீண்டும் கூட்டணிக்கு ஆள் கிடைத்தாயிற்று!



it says

Actor-Politician Karthick is upset over ADMK's attitude over seat sharing. Karthick had asked 3 seats from ADMK. But ADMK has refused even for one seat. This has angered the party and they are urging Karthick to take a decision.

ரஜினி - சோ திடீர் சந்திப்பு-அதிமுக கூட்டணிக்கு ஆதரவு?

சூப்பர் ஸ்டார் ரஜினியை ரகசியமாக சந்தித்துப் பேசினார் பத்திரிகையாளரும், அதிமுக கூட்டணியின் அறிவிக்கப்படாத அரசியல் தூதுவர் என வர்ணிக்கப்படுபவருமான துக்ளக் சோ.


அதிமுகவுக்கு ஆதரவான சக்திகளை திரட்டும் வேலையில் சோ உள்ளிட்ட சிலர் ஈடுபட்டு வருகின்றனர். இவர்களது ஆலோசனையைத்தான் தற்போது ஜெயலலிதா மிக மிக அதிகமாக கேட்கிறார், நம்புகிறார், செயல்படுகிறார். இந்த சோ மாதிரியானவர்கள் யோசனைப்படிதான் அவர் மதிமுக , இடதுசாரிகளை கண்டுகொள்ளாமல் கிடப்பில் போட்டுள்ளதாகவும் அரசியல் வட்டாரத்தில் பேசப்பட்டு வருகிறது.

இப்படிப்பட்ட சோ ரஜினிகாந்த்தை சந்தித்துப் பேசியுள்ளார்.

1996-க்குப் பிறகு ஒவ்வொரு தேர்தலிலும் ரஜினி ஆதரவு யாருக்கு என்ற கேள்வி எழும். அவர் யாருக்கு வாய்ஸ் கொடுக்கப் போகிறார் என்பதை ஒரு கட்டாயக் கேள்வியாகவே மாற்றி விட்டனர். அவர் அரசியலுக்கு வருவார் என்று இன்னும் அவரது ரசிகர்கள் நம்பிக் கொண்டிருக்கும் நிலையில், தனக்கு அரசியல் ஆசை இல்லை என்பதை அவர் சூசகமாகக் கூறி வருகிறார். தொடர்ந்து சினிமாவில் கோலோச்சுவதே அவரது விருப்பமாகவும் உள்ளது.

வழக்கம் போல இந்த முறையும் தமிழக சட்டசபைத் தேர்தலில் ரஜினி ஆதரவு யாருக்கு? என்ற கேள்வியை எழுந்துள்ளது.

இதற்குக் காரணம் சமீபத்தில் நடந்த ஒரு சந்திப்பு. ரஜினியை போயஸ் கார்டனில் உள்ள அவரது வீட்டில் துக்ளக் ஆசிரியர் சோ சந்தித்துப் பேசியுள்ளார். அவர்கள் இருவரும் சுமார் 1 மணி நேரம் இன்றைய நிலவரம், கூட்டணிகள், யாருக்கு ஆதரவு தரவேண்டும் என்பது குறித்தெல்லாம் பேசியதாகக் கூறப்படுகிறது.

சந்திப்பு முடிந்த பிறகு ரஜினியும், சோவும் காரில் ஏறி புறப்பட்டுச் சென்றனர். அவர்கள் இருவரும் தனியாகவே சென்றனர். அவர்கள் எங்கு சென்றனர்? யாரை சந்தித்துப் பேசினார்கள்? என்ற விவரம் மர்மமாகவே உள்ளது.

இன்னும் சில தினங்களில் தமிழக அரசியல் பிரசாரம் சூடு பிடிக்கும் போது ரஜினி தனது கருத்தை வெளியிடுவார் என்றும் கூறுகிறார்கள்.

இதுகுறித்து சோவிடம் கேட்ட போது, "இதுபற்றி எதுவும் சொல்வதற்கில்லை. ரஜினியின் முடிவு குறித்தும், அரசியல் நிலைப்பாடு குறித்தும் இப்போதைக்கு சொல்ல இயலாது" என்றார் சோ.

அ.தி.மு.க அணியில் விஜயகாந்தின் தே.மு.தி. க.வை இடம் பெற செய்ததில் சோ முக்கிய பங்கு வகித்ததாகக் கூறப்படும் நிலையில், அவர் ரஜினியைச் சந்தித்தது பெரும் பரபரப்பைக் கிளப்பியுள்ளது.

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Political analysist and Journalist Cho S Ramasamy met Rajinikanth recently and discussed the current political situation about 1 hour. Later both were left in the same car and continued their talks. When questioned about this meet, Cho refused to comment anything on it.

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I think no one has mentioned the fact that jayalolita wasn't interested in building a metro - it should have been ready by now had she approved. Thats another negative.

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Jayalalitha is making a bigmistake by loosing vaiko, he is the only other star campaigner. I think giving the same number to commies and 18 seats to mdmk will keep them happy in the same alliance. Lets wait and see.

MDMK surely deserves to get more than 25, but this time it is a stiff competition. The communists have a stronghold in cbe, triuppur region as well as in south. MDMK also has a stronghold in the above mentioned regions. So if at all both the parties join together it would be beneficial for them, instead of getting 9 0r 10 seats. Surely, it was MDMK that was responsible to divide DMK votes in 2001 election. So in my opinion MDMK has been loyal to AIADMK unlike communists, so this time they should get what they deserve.

^^ Well said!! I too think that JJ is making a huge mistake here by not yielding. I definitely don't want to see commies quota increased more than what they have now. But MDMK should get at least 10 more seats IMO

^^ Well said!! I too think that JJ is making a huge mistake here by not yielding. I definitely don't want to see commies quota increased more than what they have now. But MDMK should get at least 10 more seats IMO


MDMK is the only political party without any corruption charges so far.

Vaiko seems to be so loyal to JJ, but in last election the communists and PMK joined AIADMK camp, because they are left with no other option. But JJ gave more importance to the circus-man ramadoss who jumps from one party to the other(இது தான் கூடு விட்டு கூடு பாயிரதுன்னு சொல்வாங்க) for his own personal gain. But everybody knows what happened tpPMK ("மன்ன கவ்வியது! ") in election and in which allaince they are headed!

Vaiko should atleast understand know, what is needed to be a successful politician

MDMK is the only political party without any corruption charges so far.

The reason is they haven't got much opportunity i.e, ministries and big powers to get into corruption like other parties.

Jayalalitha is making a bigmistake by loosing vaiko, he is the only other star campaigner. I think giving the same number to commies and 18 seats to mdmk will keep them happy in the same alliance. Lets wait and see.
MDMK will be added advantage. their party is weak. Vaiko should accept the seats given by JJ and try to win the maximum, so that he can sustain in politicis.
But better, he can dissolve his party and join with DMK.. because in DMK, all are getting old and retirle(thatha, anbazhagan, ko.si.mani....)
so that he can get some strengths within next 5 yrs to contest back.
MDMK is one of the useless directionless party.