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RajBang March 13th, 2011, 09:38 PM தமிழகத்தில் மனு தாக்கல் துவங்க இன்னும் 5 நாள் : இரு அணிகளிலும் கடைசி கட்ட பரபரப்பு
தமிழகத்தில் வேட்பு மனு தாக்கல் துவங்க இன்னும் ஐந்து நாட்களே உள்ள நிலையில், தொகுதிப் பங்கீடு விஷயத்தில் கூட்டணிக் கட்சிகள் மத்தியில் கடைசி கட்ட பரபரப்பு ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது.
தி.மு.க., அணியில் காங்கிரஸ் 63 தொகுதிகளிலும், பா.ம.க., 30 தொகுதிகளிலும், விடுதலைச் சிறுத்தைகள் 10 தொகுதிகளிலும் போட்டியிடுகின்றன. மூன்று கட்சிகளுடன் தொகுதிகள் அடையாளம் காணும் பேச்சுவார்த்தை முடிந்து விட்டது. காங்கிரஸ் ஐவர் குழுவினர் நடத்திய பேச்சுவார்த்தையில், சில தொகுதிகளை ஒதுக்குவதில் சிக்கல் ஏற்பட்டது. காங்கிரஸ் கோஷ்டித் தலைவர்கள் சிலர் தங்களது ஆதரவாளர்களுக்காக தி.மு.க.,விடம் கேட்ட தொகுதிகளும் கிடைக்கவில்லை என்ற பிரச்னையும் எழுந்துள்ளதால், பரபரப்பு தொடர்ந்த வண்ணம் உள்ளது.
அ.தி.மு.க., அணியிலும் நீண்ட இழுபறிக்கு பின், ம.தி.மு.க., - மார்க்சிஸ்ட் இந்திய கம்யூனிஸ்ட் கட்சிகளுடன் தொகுதிப் பங்கீடு எண்ணிக்கை தொடர்பான உடன்பாடு இன்று முடிவுக்கு வர வாய்ப்பிருப்பதாகக் கூறப்படுகிறது.அ.தி.மு.க., அணியில் ம.தி.மு.க., 25 தொகுதிகளும், மார்க்சிஸ்ட் 18 தொகுதிகளும், இந்திய கம்யூனிஸ்ட் 15 தொகுதிகளும் கேட்கின்றன. ஆனால், அ.தி.மு.க., தரப்பில் ம.தி.மு.க.,வுக்கு - 13, மார்க்சிஸ்டுக்கு - 11, இந்திய கம்யூனிஸ்டுக்கு - 9 என்ற அடிப்படையில் தொகுதிகள் ஒதுக்க சம்மதம் தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.இதனால், அ.தி.மு.க., அணியில் தொகுதிப் பங்கீடு இறுதி வடிவம் பெறாமல் இழுபறியாக இருந்தது.
இந்நிலையில், மூன்று கட்சிகளிடமும் அ.தி.மு.க., நடத்திய இறுதிக் கட்ட பேச்சுவார்த்தையில் ம.தி.மு.க.,வுக்கு 18 தொகுதிகளும், மார்க்சிஸ்ட் கம்யூனிஸ்ட் கட்சிக்கு 13 தொகுதிகளும், இந்திய கம்யூனிஸ்ட் கட்சிக்கு 10 தொகுதிகளும் ஒதுக்குவதற்கு அ.தி.மு.க., தரப்பில் விருப்பம் தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. இந்த தொகுதிகளை ஏற்றுக்கொண்டு மூன்று கட்சிகளும் இன்று, தொகுதி உடன்பாடு ஒப்பந்தத்தில் கையöழுத்திட வாய்ப்பு உள்ளதாக கட்சி வட்டாரங்கள் தெரிவிக்கின்றன. இன்று தசமி திதி என்பதையும் கருத்தில் கொண்டு முடிவு செய்யலாம் என தெரிகிறது.
பணப் பட்டுவாடா, அதிகார துஷ்பிரயோகம் உள்ளிட்ட பல குற்றச்சாட்டுகளின் விளைவாக, தமிழகத்தில் தேர்தலுக்கு மிக குறுகிய காலமே இருக்கும் வகையில் தேர்தல் அட்டவணையை தயாரித்து தேர்தல் கமிஷன் அறிவித்துள்ளது. கூட்டணி கட்சிகளுக்கு தொகுதி எண்ணிக்கையை முடிவு செய்து, தொகுதிகளை அடையாளம் கண்டு, வேட்பாளர்களை முடிவு செய்து அவர்களை வேட்பு மனு தாக்கல் செய்ய முடுக்கி விட வேண்டும். தேர்தல் பிரசாரத்திற்கான திட்டத்தையும் வகுக்க வேண்டும்.
இவ்வளவு பணிகள் எஞ்சியுள்ள நிலையில் தேர்தல் வேட்பு மனு தாக்கல் வரும் 19ம் தேதி துவங்குகிறது. வேட்பு மனு தாக்கலுக்கு ஒரு வாரம் மட்டுமே அவகாசம் உள்ளது. இருந்தாலும், வேட்பு மனு தாக்கல் துவங்க, இன்னும் 5 நாட்களே உள்ள நிலையில், இவ்வளவு பணிகளையும் முடிக்க வேண்டிய கட்டாயத்தில் ஆளுங்கட்சி கூட்டணியும், எதிர்க்கட்சி கூட்டணியும் உள்ளன. இதனால், கூட்டணி தலைவர்கள் மத்தியிலும், தொண்டர்கள் மத்தியிலும் கடைசி கட்ட பரபரப்பு ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது.
The source says:
Aiadmk has finally deciided to offer a maximum of
MDMK- 18
CPM- 13
CPI-10 seats. The deal between AIADMk and the respective parties will be sealed today. will this happen. keeping the fingers crossed. lets see.
bonoslack7 March 13th, 2011, 11:07 PM http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/kerala/article1534602.ece
The explosion and radiation leak at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Japan following the massive earthquake on Friday has raised concern in Kerala over the presence of an atomic power plant at Koodankulam, less than 100 km away across the border with Tamil Nadu.
Though Koodankulam falls within seismic zone 2, making it vulnerable to earthquakes of very low intensity, the lack of preparedness in Kerala to handle such an emergency magnifies the threat perception.
According to A. Gopalakrishnan, former chairman of the Atomic Energy Regulatory Authority, though the accident at the nuclear plant in Japan was being portrayed as an extremely rare confluence of three disasters, namely earthquake, tsunami and the failure of the cooling system, the fact remains that the explosion and radiation leak were induced by the quake alone.
“The tsunami had nothing to do with it, the plant was not flooded. That this accident happened in a country that has the best quake-resistant designs shows the magnitude of the quake. India cannot be complacent on the grounds that the country is not vulnerable to such massive earthquakes. Our nuclear plants are not equipped to handle quakes of lesser magnitude,” he said.
C.S.P. Iyer, former scientist at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre, said there was no comparison between the seismic vulnerability of the nuclear plants in Japan and the one at Koodankulam. “The Japanese plant is located in seismic zones 7, 8 and 9 representing vulnerability to high intensity quakes. The building itself was damaged,” he said.
Besides, Dr. Iyer said, the nuclear plants in Japan had boiling water reactors for higher efficiency, while the one at Koodankulam built with Russian technology, employed pressurised water reactors with a steel shell as the core and outer concrete shells that were inherently safer.
“Post-Chernobyl, the Russians have incorporated safeguards into the design of their reactors to prevent a core meltdown or radiation leak even under extreme conditions. Apart from the electrical system, the Koodankulam plant has a diesel and battery back up for the cooling mechanism,” he said.
K.G. Thara, member, State Disaster Management Authority, admitted that the possibility of a nuclear accident had not been factored into the State's disaster management plan. She said hospitals were not yet fully equipped for mass casualty management in case of a radiation leak at Koodankulam. “The radiation would certainly reach across the border to affect the population in Kerala. But we have no contingency plan in place,” she said.
Ms. Thara said the location of the Koodankulam plant in seismic zone 2 was not really relevant in the absence of micro zonation studies to identify pockets of enhanced vulnerability. “Besides, it does not rule out the possibility of quakes generated offshore or their impact on a coastal area like Koodankulam,” she said.
Officials admitted that even basic measures like facilities for decontamination and mass administration of iodine were lacking.
The National Alliance of Anti-nuclear Movements (NAAM) based in Nagercoil expressed concern over the nuclear accident in Japan. Terming the incident as a calamity, a pressnote quoting S.P. Udayakumar, coordinator, NAAM, said the full and complete details of the disaster would be known only in a few more weeks or months.
“The Japanese nuclear authorities have claimed that small amounts of radioactive material were likely to leak out. This is the universal attitude and approach of the nuclear departments of all countries,” he said.
The pressnote said India's Department of Atomic Energy (DAE) and Nuclear Power Corporation of India Ltd. (NPCIL) would try to reassure the people of India that they were far more superior and this kind of accidents would never happen in Indian facilities.
“Common sense would instruct us not to tread this path of Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima but generate energy from safe and sustainable sources. We urge the Government of India to reverse its nuclear adventurism immediately and chart out a different course to achieve energy security that also incorporates human security,” it added.
vs007 March 13th, 2011, 11:34 PM http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/kerala/article1534602.ece
The explosion and radiation leak at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Japan following the massive earthquake on Friday has raised concern in Kerala over the presence of an atomic power plant at Koodankulam, less than 100 km away across the border with Tamil Nadu.
Its 100kms deep in TN and kerala is worried. :)
bonoslack7 March 13th, 2011, 11:45 PM Seriously everyone should stop building nuclear plants from now on; more of this is going to happen in the future. No one in TN knew what a tsunami is some years ago. Japanese must have big guts to build them on the ring of fire.
vs007 March 14th, 2011, 01:01 AM Seriously everyone should stop building nuclear plants from now on; more of this is going to happen in the future. No one in TN knew what a tsunami is some years ago. Japanese must have big guts to build them on the ring of fire.
Its the earthquake zone that matters more and such plants should have been built in lesser activity Seismic Zone.
ChennaiIndian March 14th, 2011, 05:59 AM Its 100kms deep in TN and kerala is worried. :)
That's right. That news article is :nuts: For a nuclear emergency, everyone has to be prepared and not just one state.
natarajan1986 March 14th, 2011, 07:43 AM Its 100kms deep in TN and kerala is worried. :)
tn is happy but kerala is worried,our politicians and ppl rocks:lol:
sudheeshnairs March 14th, 2011, 07:53 AM http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/kerala/article1534602.ece
K.G. Thara, member, State Disaster Management Authority, admitted that the possibility of a nuclear accident had not been factored into the State's disaster management plan.
Dr. K G Thara was my lecturer for Geology during my B Tech Civil course.:)
Its 100kms deep in TN and kerala is worried. :)
Koodankulam had always been a worry personally for me.;) I am looking for a comfortable relaxed life in my city and now there is a chance of a threat of nuclear radiation at some point of time. You cannot rule out natural calamities, but nuclear plants are in fact an added liability. The discussion about this was live in media years back when the proposal for Koodankulam Plant was mooted. The only solace was that since around 100kms away, at least I may get some time to wake up and run/drive further up for safety.
Leo_r March 14th, 2011, 10:25 AM Now Indian Media will arouse a fear psychosis among our people. Danger to life lurks everywhere. A very essential Fertilizer Plant may be handling, Hydrogen at 300 Atmosheric pressure - a deadly situation with sources for ignition all around - But one has to have belief in self and others on safety.
Kalpakkam Atomic Centre is so close to Chennai a huge Metro city. Handles all Research projects in conventional and Fast Breeder tech., Fabrication of Nuclear devices, Power Plants to Subs, apart from operating Power plants and building a "Sodium cooled" FB Reactor for the first time in the World...faced a Tsunami already.. 8 Millions around
Bhaba Atomic Centre in Chembur is doing similar activiites - Central Mumbai.. 16 Millions around
Trivandrum folks.. two more Reactors 1200 MW each will be added in 10 years time at Koodamkulam, besides the present 1000*2 MW reactors.
So have faith and just insist on provision of lots of standby mechanisms to cover the most unexpected.
Arul Murugan March 14th, 2011, 10:59 AM Its the earthquake zone that matters more and such plants should have been built in lesser activity Seismic Zone.
Exactly. Sendai falls under Pacific's ring of fire zone, Chennai or TN does not fall under such zone.
We should be worried about increase in water level as we have already lost port town Mahabalipuram and Poompuhar in past history.
bonoslack7 March 14th, 2011, 11:52 AM Exactly. Sendai falls under Pacific's ring of fire zone, Chennai or TN does not fall under such zone.
We should be worried about increase in water level as we have already lost port town Mahabalipuram and Poompuhar in past history.
like i said earlier, even scientists don't know when a tsunami/earthquake is going to strike. we can't be sure of what happens in the future. it would be catastrophic if a reactor goes berserk, millions will die and the whole area cant be used again. At least in the case of India, it would make sense not to take a risk.
Marathaman March 14th, 2011, 11:56 AM like i said earlier, even scientists don't know when a tsunami/earthquake is going to strike. we can't be sure of what happens in the future. it would be catastrophic if a reactor goes berserk, millions will die and the whole area cant be used again. At least in the case of India, it would make sense not to take a risk.
I don't know what sort of reactors India uses, but Chernobyl-type incidents are impossible in most modern nuclear plants. Even if the reactor cores in the Japanese ones blow up, the effect will be minor in comparison to Chernobyl. Maybe a fraction of the population will have a higher cancer risk. That's about it. There is too much hysteria around nuclear plants. Statistically, massive coal-fired plants kill far more people in the vicinity due to long term pollution. I have lived in a town located close to a mega thermal project. The air is always filled with fly-ash and an alarmingly high number of people suffer from lung disease.
wlbkng March 14th, 2011, 11:56 AM No need to worry to be honest. The article itself clarifies it . Kudankulam is in seismic zone 2. The japan nuke plant is in zone 7,8,9. And we are not that much careless to build a feeble reactor.
Though Koodankulam falls within seismic zone 2, making it vulnerable to earthquakes of very low intensity, the lack of preparedness in Kerala to handle such an emergency magnifies the threat perception.
“The Japanese plant is located in seismic zones 7, 8 and 9 representing vulnerability to high intensity quakes. The building itself was damaged,” he said.
If still you are worrying, first you need to worry about Trivandrum itself as it falls under Seismic zone 3 (Technically more prone to earthquakes than kudankulam which is in zone 2). Atleast you will have time to react when an earthquake occurs in kudankulam.
Our old Kalpakkam plant built in the 80s have withstood 2004 Tsunami. So no need to panic to be honest!
chidambaram_mech04 March 14th, 2011, 12:49 PM In ADMK Alliance CPM gets 12 seats and CPI gets 10 seats.
Arul Murugan March 14th, 2011, 12:55 PM ^^
Instead of commies, she should have alloted seats to MDMK first..
TShyam March 14th, 2011, 01:50 PM I don't know what sort of reactors India uses, but Chernobyl-type incidents are impossible in most modern nuclear plants. Even if the reactor cores in the Japanese ones blow up, the effect will be minor in comparison to Chernobyl. Maybe a fraction of the population will have a higher cancer risk. That's about it. There is too much hysteria around nuclear plants.
+1. I recently read that the modern reactors imported from Russia are much safer specifically made to protect against Chernobyl type situations (with a concrete outer core or something like that). Infact they are safer than Japanese ones which are mostly pre Chernobyl era.
Statistically, massive coal-fired plants kill far more people in the vicinity due to long term pollution. I have lived in a town located close to a mega thermal project. The air is always filled with fly-ash and an alarmingly high number of people suffer from lung disease.
Its called Anthracosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthracosis). From a purely public health point of view, thermal power plants are a disaster. The faster we wean ourselves from it, the better.
sudheeshnairs March 14th, 2011, 02:58 PM Though Koodankulam falls within seismic zone 2, making it vulnerable to earthquakes of very low intensity, the lack of preparedness in Kerala to handle such an emergency magnifies the threat perception.
If still you are worrying, first you need to worry about Trivandrum itself as it falls under Seismic zone 3 (Technically more prone to earthquakes than kudankulam which is in zone 2). Atleast you will have time to react when an earthquake occurs in kudankulam.
Are you asking bonoslack? I think he may not have the reason to worry about Trivandrum?:)
Trivandrum or Kerala need to worry much by itself for the reason for being in Zone 3 and not Zone 2. The zone may not matter much, the buildings are all structurally designed to withstand the quakes of that zone. And on a comparo scale, in Kerala, the building laws are stricter, self enforced as well as by the authorities, and the less occurrences of haphazard development of match box structures, say like in a Zone 2 city like Bangalore.
The point here is the ‘magnitude’ of the disaster of a nuclear catastrophe as well as the relative ‘helplessness’ on that account once it occurs. I would say like contracting a general veneral disease and AIDS. The former has treatment and can be managed, but not with the latter.
Anyway there is no point in panicking and we will not even think of it most times, but yes, with nuclear reactors there is of course a matter for concern.
Sree Padmanabhaa, tava charanam saranam!!.;)
Brand coimbatore March 14th, 2011, 03:41 PM Exactly we cannot predict an earthquake or the nuclear disaster, rather we should be prepared to better handle it if it occurs.
Japan has prepared for itself to withstand many adversities like wall over its shore line cities like sendai to minimize the effects of tsunami and invested heavily on quake resistant buildings( though the magnitude was terrible this time; once again nature's fury ). But the question in india is the building rules and the adaptations for such a situation and also the country's growing power demand can be satisfied only by nuclear power.
satchitananda March 14th, 2011, 03:51 PM Its definitely a wake up call. If anything is growing faster than information (Mankind is set to double all the info since existence in the next five years) it is need for energy.
What may be prudent is to start investing heavily in green tech. Energy conservation must be given a higher priority as well. Nuclear always has issues in its current form be it mining or waste disposal. Unless we hit a stable fusion tech, we must think of using innovative solar tech (Thank God thats in plentiful supply for us).
We may not be in the ring of fire, but the himalayan belt sure is most vulnerable. It may be wiser for our nuclear scientists to review the Japan episode and revisit the safety concerns - be it earthquake or tusnami.
vs007 March 14th, 2011, 03:51 PM Koodankulam had always been a worry personally for me.;) I am looking for a comfortable relaxed life in my city and now there is a chance of a threat of nuclear radiation at some point of time. You cannot rule out natural calamities, but nuclear plants are in fact an added liability. The discussion about this was live in media years back when the proposal for Koodankulam Plant was mooted. The only solace was that since around 100kms away, at least I may get some time to wake up and run/drive further up for safety.
The reality is there is a sever power shortage even for residences, let alone for the incoming comforts of the west and there aren't enough places to build huge dams or required output from green sources, leaving only the polluting coal plants and India will get the cheapest coal available.
If the reactor can be kept safe, nuclear power is the greenest for its potential power. I would have preferred had we given koodankulam to the French companies (like Areva) who are considered the safest in the industry than the than the russian ones which has Indian like mentality.
bonoslack7 March 14th, 2011, 04:25 PM this is the company building kudankulam, Atomstroyexport.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomstroyexport
jaish March 14th, 2011, 04:28 PM But the question in india is the building rules and the adaptations for such a situation and also the country's growing power demand can be satisfied only by nuclear power.
I have my own doubts on ONLY by nuclear power. Is this message being spread by Nuclear Lobby?. Why not we can concentrate more on Green energy.
kongutamizhan March 14th, 2011, 04:34 PM I have my own doubts on ONLY by nuclear power. Is this message being spread by Nuclear Lobby?. Why not we can concentrate more on Green energy.
Nuclear is green :)
bonoslack7 March 14th, 2011, 04:38 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_Alienation
krishnaswamy March 14th, 2011, 04:52 PM ^^
Instead of commies, she should have alloted seats to MDMK first..
Comrades are much powerful than sick MDMK..
MDMK switched from dmK to ADMK for just 5 seats in 2006.. their vote banks is also not so strong... may be in south they have few.. but this can be nullified by Vijayakant...
In my opinion, JJ does not MDMK.. so any seats will be gain for MDMK..
So vaiko should accept the seats given by JJ, win them and then strengthen the party.
else
"suya mariyadhai" vaiko can walk out
kannan infratech March 14th, 2011, 05:23 PM Do you not know who Sri Sathya Sai Baba of Puttaparthi is?
srinivasan1@hotmail.
To throw some light on an old story:
A disciple of Sri Sathya Sai Baba donated his property - Abbotsbury Wedding Hall on Anna Salai in Teynampet - to Baba.
Who owns the property now?
Baba offered to bear the cost of strengthening the canals of Krishna Water Scheme from AP to TN.
Who got benefited ?
Property in Ooty had problems. Who helped ?
vs007 March 14th, 2011, 05:30 PM To throw some light on an old story:
A disciple of Sri Sathya Sai Baba donated his property - Abbotsbury Wedding Hall on Anna Salai in Teynampet - to Baba.
Who owns the property now?
Baba offered to bear the cost of strengthening the canals of Krishna Water Scheme from AP to TN.
Who got benefited ?
Property in Ooty had problems. Who helped ?
Not sure I understand all the references here, am not that tuned.
kannan infratech March 14th, 2011, 06:04 PM @ Nuclear Disaster & Aftermath Management:
I was part of an Initiative which collected info on exactly this, which was started Post Tsunami. I am ashamed that I / We are not able to do anything, despite that we are well aware of the lurking dangers.
As a Chemical Engineer & Infrastructure specialist, I would like to vouch for the safety since every thing is OK on the paper.
But as a Human Being & a concerned citizen, I am not so confident.
We all are blissfully ignorant and so are not afraid. The chances for a disaster is remote and so we have the comfort factor.
But if something similar happens in Kalpakkam, I am afraid that we do not have a plan. Human Beings are so cheap here (only Rs. 1000 per vote, isn't it?)
I do not want to get into trouble by revealing too much here. But if anyone wants to spearhead, I am willing to help.
satchitananda March 14th, 2011, 06:17 PM @ I do not want to get into trouble by revealing too much here. But if anyone wants to spearhead, I am willing to help.
@Kannan - Spearhead info collection ?? activism ?
It is very true, that we neither have the infrastrucutre nor the value attached to a human life. I am not sure if it is only due to the population explosion or a worser degrading value system. (am sure its a combo of even other factors).
I can surely contribute whatever I know. Be it Chemfab or Shasun or Kalpakkam, or for that matter even basic Ambattur Industrial estate industries, most of them lack basic safety plan.
bonoslack7 March 14th, 2011, 06:51 PM not much can be done when people of that area (nagercoil, tirunelveli, etc) don't know the ill effects, if any action needs to be taken it must be from there. So, the first step should be to teach the adv. and disadv. of any system, not just for nuclear power but for all critical decisions.
Subra March 14th, 2011, 08:50 PM http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_maximum-economic-freedom-in-tamil-nadu-least-in-bihar-study_1519977
Tamil Nadu enjoys maximum economic freedom - greater wealth and improvement in human development - among the 20 largest states in the country, a study said today.
As per the Economic Freedom of the States of India 2011 report, which ranked the economic status of the states in 2009, Gujarat and Andhra Pradesh were the next most prosperous states.
This is significantly different from 2005, when Tamil Nadu was still on top but Madhya Pradesh came second and followed by Himachal Pradesh, Haryana and Gujarat, it said.
The study ranks economic freedom in the 20 biggest Indian states, using a methodology from Fraser Institute' Economic Freedom of World Annual Report.
The bottom three states in 2009 were Bihar, Uttrakhand and Assam, in that order, the study said.
Back in 2005, Bihar was still ranked at the bottom (20th) while Assam was at the 19th position and West Bengal at 18th.
The report said the state with fastest improvement in economic freedom was Andhra Pradesh, moving up from 7th position in 2005 to third position in 2009.
The index score for Andhra Pradesh went up from 0.4 to 0.51 on a scale from zero (no freedom) to 1 (high freedom), an improvement of 27.25%.
The second fastest improvement was in Gujarat, which moved up from the fifth to second position.
Economic freedom is associated with greater wealth, higher growth and improvement in whole range of human development indicators.
"Even as some states improved in economic freedom, others worsened, showing that there is no uniform all India trend," the study said.
As per the study, only two states - Andhra Pradesh and Gujarat -- registered large increases in economic freedom. Haryana, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Rajasthan and Jammu and Kashmir registered moderate increases in economic freedom.
States with largest decrease in economic freedom were Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Uttarakhand, Punjab and Himachal Pradesh.
Punjab, once among the best performers, slipped from 6th position in 2005 to 12 position in 2009.
"States with higher level of economic freedom tended to perform better across a range of economic variables. They also had a higher levels of in-migration, while states with least economic freedom had higher level of out-migration," the study said.
Bibek Debroy, Laveesh Bhandari and Swaminathan Aiyar are the authors of the report.
kongutamizhan March 14th, 2011, 09:34 PM Kalaigner TV and Nakeeran might close their shop as per this scoop (http://savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=520:--2&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2). If Amma wins then it might happen for sure.
RajBang March 14th, 2011, 10:24 PM ^^
Instead of commies, she should have alloted seats to MDMK first..
Source: Dinamalar
Aiadmk has told it can offer a total of 8 seats
to Mdmk which it has rejected. :nuts:
Subra March 14th, 2011, 10:34 PM http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_maximum-economic-freedom-in-tamil-nadu-least-in-bihar-study_1519977
Tamil Nadu enjoys maximum economic freedom - greater wealth and improvement in human development - among the 20 largest states in the country, a study said today.
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http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/tamil-nadu-retains-top-slot-in-economic-freedom-ranking/428571/
Tamil Nadu retains top slot in economic freedom ranking
The Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK) may be hogging headlines for giving headaches to the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government at the Centre, but when it comes to governing Tamil Nadu, DMK scored highest so far as economic freedom is concerned.:)
Tamil Nadu retained the top slot in a ranking of 20 states from 2005 to 2009.
The Narendra Modi-led government may be accused of many counts on political freedom, but Gujarat progressed from 5th position in 2005 to 2nd in 2009
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I am surprised to find out TN topped the list with a worst govt in history and a horrible governance. I think spectrum money played some role here or paid news :)
Maharashtra, known as the financial capital of the country, is still the laggard so far as the index, developed on the lines of the Fraser Institute’s Economic Freedom of the World report, is concerned. The state further slipped to 11th position from ninth in 2005.
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The index is based on three areas — size of government, legal structure and security of property rights, regulation of labour and business.
Planning Commission Deputy Chairman Montek Singh Ahluwalia said, “We should not only look at economic freedom but negative freedom and also positive freedom. Lot of times, low taxes are considered to be as a big measure of economic freedom of doing business but it should also be remembered that it will lead to the state withering away, which is not an ideal situation. Notion of economic freedom is important; there is danger that when there is not enough data, the end analysis becomes convoluted
bonoslack7 March 14th, 2011, 11:03 PM This has no relation with the ruling party whatsoever.
vs007 March 14th, 2011, 11:42 PM This has no relation with the ruling party whatsoever.
Doesn't the Govt creates the politico-business environment?
bonoslack7 March 14th, 2011, 11:52 PM maybe a little, to put it clearly i actually meant that tn was already at the top in 2005.
Malaysia Mustafa March 15th, 2011, 12:21 AM I am surprised to find out TN topped the list with a worst govt in history and a horrible governance. I think spectrum money played some role here or paid news :)
நல்லா இருந்தாலும் குத்தம். நல்லா இல்லாட்டியும் குத்தம். என்ன கொடுமை சார் இது...:nuts:
Subra March 15th, 2011, 12:26 AM நல்லா இருந்தாலும் குத்தம். நல்லா இல்லாட்டியும் குத்தம். என்ன கொடுமை சார் இது...:nuts:
You didn't realize that I was sarcastic in my comment :)
My point was inspite of being criticized for bad governance and terrible business environment, TN could still retain the numero one position whereas states like Maharastra has gone down in the rankings.
Marathaman March 15th, 2011, 01:34 AM Its definitely a wake up call. If anything is growing faster than information (Mankind is set to double all the info since existence in the next five years) it is need for energy.
What may be prudent is to start investing heavily in green tech. Energy conservation must be given a higher priority as well. Nuclear always has issues in its current form be it mining or waste disposal. Unless we hit a stable fusion tech, we must think of using innovative solar tech (Thank God thats in plentiful supply for us).
We may not be in the ring of fire, but the himalayan belt sure is most vulnerable. It may be wiser for our nuclear scientists to review the Japan episode and revisit the safety concerns - be it earthquake or tusnami.
As of today solar, wind, hydro etc. cannot replace the mega thermal projects that produce most of the electricity. The only potential replacement is nuclear, that is why there should be more efforts to reduce the fear psychosis around them. This Japan disaster won't help :ohno:.
People have this irrational fear that nuclear power plants are like nuclear bombs which could blow up in a giant mushroom cloud :bash:.
Mr.Nellai March 15th, 2011, 01:43 AM 63 constituencies in which Congress is going to contest
தமிழக சட்டப் பேரவைத் தேர்தலில், தி.மு.க. கூட்டணியில் இடம்பெற்றுள்ள காங்கிரஸ் கட்சிக்கு ஒதுக்கப்பட்டுள்ள 63 தொகுதிகளின் பட்டியல் கிடைத்துள்ளது.
சென்னை, திருவள்ளூர் மாவட்டங்களில் காங்கிரஸ் கட்சிக்கு 5 + 5 தொகுதிகள் ஒதுக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன. தென் மாவட்டங்களில் மிக அதிக அளவிற்கு தொகுதிகள் ஒதுக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன. திருநெல்வேலி, கோவை, ஈரோடு, சிவகங்கை ஆகிய 4 மாவட்டங்களில் முறையே 4 தொகுதிகள் வழங்கியுள்ளது தி.மு.க. மாவட்ட வாரியாக காங்கிரஸ் கட்சிக்கு ஒதுக்கப்பட்டுள்ள தொகுதிகள் விவரம் வருமாறு:
சென்னை:
தியாகராயர் நகர், அண்ணா நகர், மயிலாப்பூர், இராயபுரம், திரு.வி.க. நகர்
திருவள்ளூர் மாவட்டம்:
ஆவடி, ஆலந்தூர், மதுரவாயல், திருத்தணி, பூந்தமல்லி
காஞ்சிபுரம் மாவட்டம்:
ஸ்ரீபெரும்புதூர், ஆலந்தூர், செய்யார், மதுராந்தகம்
வேலூர் மாவட்டம்:
வேலூர், சோளிங்கர், ஆம்பூர்
திருவண்ணாமலை மாவட்டம்:
ரிஷிவந்தியம், கலசப்பாக்கம்,
கடலூர் மாவட்டம்:
விருத்தாச்சலம்,
தஞ்சாவூர் மாவட்டம்:
பேராவூரணி, பட்டுக்கோட்டை, பாபநாசம்
நாகை மாவட்டம்:
திருத்துறைப்பூண்டி, மயிலாடுதுறை
புதுக்கோட்டை மாவட்டம்:
அறந்தாங்கி, திருமயம்
அரியலூர் மாவட்டம்:
அரியலூர்
கரூர் மாவட்டம்:
கரூர், முசிறி
சேலம் மாவட்டம்:
சேலம் (மேற்கு), ஆத்தூர்
ஈரோடு மாவட்டம்:
மொடக்குறிச்சி, .ஈரோடு (கிழக்கு), திருச்செங்கோடு, காங்கேயம்
தருமபுரி மாவட்டம்:
கிருஷ்ணகிரி, ஓசூர்
சிவகங்கை மாவட்டம்:
திருவாடானை, பரமக்குடி, சிவகங்கை, காரைக்குடி
இராமநாதபுரம் மாவட்டம்:
இராமநாதபுரம்
திண்டுக்கல் மாவட்டம்:
நிலக்கோட்டை, வேடசந்தூர்
கோவை மாவட்டம்:
சிங்காநல்லூர், வால்பாறை, அவிநாசி, தொண்டாமுத்தூர்
நீலகிரி மாவட்டம்:
ஊட்டி
மதுரை மாவட்டம்:
மதுரை (வடக்கு), மதுரை (மேற்கு), திருப்பரங்குன்றம்
விருதுநகர் மாவட்டம்:
விருதுநகர்
தூத்துக்குடி மாவட்டம்:
விளாத்திகுளம், ஸ்ரீவைகுண்டம்
திருநெல்வேலி மாவட்டம்:
வாசுதேவநல்லூர், கடையநல்லூர், நாங்குனேரி, ராதாபுரம்
கன்னியாகுமரி மாவட்டம்:
விளவங்கோடு, குளச்சல், கிள்ளியூர்
Source (http://tamil.webdunia.com/newsworld/news/tnnews/1103/14/1110314062_1.htm)
Malaysia Mustafa March 15th, 2011, 04:53 AM தினமணி (http://dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Tamilnadu&artid=390520&SectionID=129&MainSectionID=129&SEO=&Title=)
இதற்கிடையே தொகுதிகளைக் குறைத்துக் கொள்ளுமாறு மட்டும் கூறி வந்த அ.தி.மு.க. நிர்வாகிகள், கடந்த 8-ம் தேதி நடந்த பேச்சுவார்த்தையின்போதுதான் ம.தி.மு.க.வுக்கு ஒதுக்கவுள்ள தொகுதிகளின் எண்ணிக்கையைக் கூறியதாகத் தெரிகிறது. அதைக் கேட்ட ம.தி.மு.க. தரப்பு மிகவும் அதிர்ச்சியடைந்ததாகக் கூறப்படுகிறது.
அடுத்து 12-ம் தேதி சந்திப்பின்போது ம.தி.மு.க., இந்தியக் கம்யூனிஸ்ட், மார்க்சிஸ்ட் கட்சிகளுக்குக் கடந்த தேர்தலில் வெற்றிபெற்ற இடங்களைவிட 2 இடங்கள் அதிகமாகத் தர இருப்பதாகவும் அதற்குமேல் தொகுதிகளை ஒதுக்க இயலாது என்றும் அ.தி.மு.க. தரப்பு கூறிவிட்டதாகத் தெரிகிறது. எனினும், 14-ம் தேதி காலை ம.தி.மு.க.வைச் சந்தித்த அ.தி.மு.க. நிர்வாகிகள், முந்தைய நாள் தெரிவித்த 8 தொகுதிகளுக்குப் பதிலாக 7 தொகுதிகள் மட்டுமே ஒதுக்க இயலும் என்று கூறினார்களாம். மீண்டும் 14-ம் தேதி மாலை வைகோவைத் தொடர்பு கொண்ட அ.தி.மு.க. தரப்பினர் முன்பு கூறியபடியே 8 தொகுதிகள் தருவதாகவும், தங்கள் கட்சி பொதுச் செயலாளர் ஜெயலலிதாவைச் சந்திக்குமாறும் அழைத்ததாகக் கூறப்படுகிறது. எனினும், ம.தி.மு.க. தலைமை அந்த அழைப்பை நிராகரித்து விட்டதாதக் கூறப்படுகிறது.
அ.தி.மு.க.வின் இத்தகைய அணுகுமுறையால் ம.தி.மு.க.வினர் மனதளவில் மிகவும் புண்பட்டிருப்பதை அறிய முடிகிறது.
அ.தி.மு.க. தலைமையின் இந்தப் பிடிவாதத்துக்கு அந்த அணியில் தே.மு.தி.க. உள்ளதால் நிச்சயம் வெற்றி பெற்று விடுவோம் என்ற அதீத நம்பிக்கை ஒரு காரணமாகக் கூறப்படுகிறது.
sudheeshnairs March 15th, 2011, 06:57 AM @ Nuclear Disaster & Aftermath Management:
As a Chemical Engineer & Infrastructure specialist, I would like to vouch for the safety since every thing is OK on the paper.
But as a Human Being & a concerned citizen, I am not so confident.
We all are blissfully ignorant and so are not afraid. The chances for a disaster is remote and so we have the comfort factor.
Rightly said!!!
Marathaman March 15th, 2011, 07:00 AM Why are people not concerned about widespread health issues caused by thermal power plants, which is a reality as opposed to just a possible threat? A properly constructed nuclear plant with excellent safety and backup systems is far less likely to harm the population than your average coal-fired plant.
It's all perception. Just like people are so afraid of flying even though it is extremely safe, but nobody is scared of driving even though India has the worst road death statistics in the world.
bonoslack7 March 15th, 2011, 09:02 AM i think you are unable to understand the magnanimity of a nuclear disaster. If theres a thermal power plant on the road side and I pass by it,in most probability am not going to die overnight/become disabled. Thermal power plants can be equated to cigarettes. Its not without reason that all major developed countries are moving away from nuclear power.
The developing world is going through a phase where coal leads to nuclear leads to green energy. Those who bypass nuclear power and start with green energy tremendously have a major major advantage.
TShyam March 15th, 2011, 09:12 AM Probably we should start worrying about meteorites hitting. Or maybe lightning striking. How about being hit by blimps? oh oh I know - alien attacks.
The government should do something to protect us against these!!
Two disasters in 6 decades and this have got people worried. Seriously guys, you have a higher chance of dying because of the reasons I mentioned earlier than due to a nuclear reactor disaster.
TShyam March 15th, 2011, 09:14 AM i think you are unable to understand the magnanimity of a nuclear disaster.
Magnanimity?? I hope you meant magnitude.
TShyam March 15th, 2011, 09:20 AM For those who dont know what is a blimp - It is the floating air balloon usually used for advertisements. Here is an example
http://www.winkman.com/blimp.jpg
Marathaman March 15th, 2011, 09:26 AM i think you are unable to understand the magnanimity of a nuclear disaster. If theres a thermal power plant on the road side and I pass by it,in most probability am not going to die overnight/become disabled. Thermal power plants can be equated to cigarettes. Its not without reason that all major developed countries are moving away from nuclear power.
So you'll die if you pass by a nuclear power plant? I don't understand your point. You're more afraid of a potential and highly unlikely disaster than an ongoing and very real problem which is killing people as we speak. Which is more dangerous?
I'm quite positive that even if the worst case scenario plays out at that Japanese plant, its overall impact will be far lesser than what people living in the vicinity of thermal power plants have been facing for decades. Going by plain statistics we should ban thermal power plants and build only nuclear ones because their safety record is far better. Nuclear energy is green energy. It's the only viable replacement for coal that we have as of today. Both solar and wind are too expensive and too inefficient.
Of course, I haven't mentioned the other effects of thermal power plants:
Mercury Poisoning (http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/2009/08/19/mercury-contamination-mainly-from-coal-plant-emissions-pervasive-in-fish-nationwide-usgs-finds/)
Arsenic Poisoning (http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/02/high-arsenic-levels-found-near-nc-coal-plant-ash-pond.html)
In fact, Coal Ash is more radioactive than nuclear waste (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste) which explains the high rate of genetic abnormalities found in people living near thermal power projects, especially in India (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_poisoning_in_Punjab).
By contrast, nuclear power plants have little or no impact on the surrounding population unless an unfortunate once-in-a-blue-moon disaster takes place. Their only by-product is steam and once every few decades perhaps, they need to dispose off the spent fuel by burying it under so many layers of concrete that it will never cause any harm to a single person for thousands of years.
bonoslack7 March 15th, 2011, 09:44 AM hehe....yes i meant magnitude.
If war comes, nothing much would happen to a thermal plant, what i am saying is that even if theres a minute case of anything happening to nuclear plants, its devastating in its effects.
If nuclear power is safe, why Germany etc. etc. are moving away from nuclear power?
Marathaman March 15th, 2011, 09:51 AM hehe....yes i meant magnitude.
If war comes, nothing much would happen to a thermal plant, what i am saying is that even if theres a minute case of anything happening to nuclear plants, its devastating in its effects.
If nuclear power is safe, why Germany etc. etc. are moving away from nuclear power?
No it's not devastating. As I said earlier, Chernobyl type incidents are a thing of the past. A nuclear meltdown today will not be anywhere as devastating as that.
There is too much paranoia in European countries about a lot of things - Genetically modified crops, nuclear power etc. You should stop looking at Europe and see what the more progressive countries like China are doing. They are rapidly expanding their nuclear capacity because they don't have powerful anti-nuclear lobbies spreading false information.
But even in Europe, France today produces most of its energy (78.8%) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_France) from nuclear power plants.
karthikarthik March 15th, 2011, 12:57 PM Received a mail today...
Experts shed light on this. Not sure whether to believe this?
There was a nuclear blast 4:30pm Sunday in Fukushima Japan. If it rains today or in the next few days, DO NOT GO UNDER THE RAIN. If you get caught out, use an umbrella or raincoat, even if it's only a drizzle. Radioactive particles, which may cause burns, alopecia or even cancer, may be in the rain.
BBC flash news: Japan government confirms radiation leak at Fukushima nuclear plants. Asian countries should take necessary precautions. If it rains, remain indoors first 24hours, close doors n windows, swab neck skin with beta-dine where thyroid area is, radiation hits thyroid first. Take extra precautions, radiation may hit Philippines starting 4pm (Pinas time) today!
PLEASE PASS THIS MESSAGE.
Arul Murugan March 15th, 2011, 01:04 PM ^^
This was the first mail to me today in morning. Saw news in TOI that it was spreading in Chennai through sms... it is just a hoax as per the article.
sudheeshnairs March 15th, 2011, 01:24 PM Maratha,
I am not getting the point why you are bringing up and stressing on ‘Thermal’ plants. Did anybody talk about them or say that they are ok? The concern raised was only regarding Nuclear Plants. Of course, I would like to stay away from a thermal plant also.
In my context, my concern is only the Nuclear Power Plant at Kudankulam. The closest thermal power plant is the Kayamkulam NTPC Plant, about 100 kms north, and it is Naptha based and not coal.
So put in perspective, I don’t see any hazard for myself from the Kayamkulam Plant. But I need to worry about Kudankulam eventhough it is as far as (or more) Kayamkulam, as my city will fall under the secondary or tertiary (not sure) influence zone of that nuclear plant.
Malaysia Mustafa March 15th, 2011, 01:38 PM காங்., போட்டியிடும் தொகுதிகள் பட்டியல் அறிவிப்பு (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=206253)
Several Changes from previous expected list.
சென்னையில் 5 இடங்கள் : 1.மயிலாப்பூர் ,2.தி.நகர், 3.ராயபுரம்,4.திரு.வி.க., நகர்,5.அண்ணாநகர்
காஞ்சிபுரம் மாவட்டம்: 6.மதுராந்தகம், 7.ஆலந்தூர், 8. ஸ்ரீபெரும்புதூர்,
திருவள்ளூர் மாவட்டம்: .9. பூந்தமல்லி, 10. திருத்தணி. 11. ஆவடி
வேலூர் மாவட்டம்:12.சோளிங்கர், 13.வேலூர், 14..ஆம்பூர்
திருவண்ணாமலை மாவட்டம்: 15.செய்யாறு, 16.செங்கம், 17.கலசப்பாக்கம்
விழுப்புரம் மாவட்டம்: 18.ரிஷிவந்தியம்,
கடலூர் மாவட்டம்: 19.விருத்தாசலம்.
நாகை மாவட்டம் 20.மயிலாடுதுறை,
திருவாரூர் மாவட்டம் : 21. திருத்துறைப்பூண்டி
தஞ்சாவூர் மாவட்டம்: 22.பேராவூரணி, 23.பட்டுக்கோட்டை, 24.பாபநாசம்
புதுக்கோட்டை மாவட்டம்: 25.அறந்தாங்கி, 26. திருமயம்
சேலம் மாவட்டம்: 27.சேலம் (வடக்கு ). 28.ஆத்தூர்,
விருதுநகர் மாவட்டம்: 29. விருதுநகர்
ஈரோடு மாவட்டம் : 30.மொடக்குறிச்சி, 31.ஈரோடு மேற்கு, 32 .காங்கேயம்.
கிருஷ்ணகிரி மாவட்டம்: 33. கிருஷ்ணகிரி, 34. ஓசூர்,
சிவகங்கை மாவட்டம்: 35.சிவகங்கை, 36.காரைக்குடி.
கோவை மாவட்டம்: 37. தொண்டாமுத்தூர், 38. சிங்காநல்லூர் , 39 வால்பாறை .
நாமக்கல் மாவட்டம்: 40. திருச்செங்கோடு,
கரூர் மாவட்டம்: 41. கரூர்.
அரியலூர் மாவட்டம்: 42. அரியலூர்.
திருநெல்வேலி மாவட்டம்: 43. வாசுதேவநல்லூர், 44.கடையநல்லூர், 45. நான்குநேரி, 46. ராதாபுரம்.
கன்னியாகுமரி மாவட்டம்: 47. குளச்சல், 48. விளவங்கோடு, 49. கிள்ளியூர்.
மதுரை மாவட்டம்: 50. மதுரை (வடக்கு) , 51. மதுரை ( தெற்கு), 52. திருப்பரங்குன்றம்.
ராமநாதபுரம் மாவட்டம்: 53. ராமநாதபுரம், 54. பரமக்குடி.
தூத்துக்குடி மாவட்டம்: 55. விளாத்திக்குளம், 56 . ஸ்ரீவைகுண்டம்.
திருச்சி மாவட்டம்: 57. மணப்பாறை , 58. முசிறி .
திண்டுக்கல் மாவட்டம்: 59. நிலக்கோட்டை, 60. வேடச்சந்தூர்
நீலகிரி மாவட்டம் : 61. உதகமண்டலம்
திருப்பூர் மாவட்டம்: 62. திருப்பூர்( *தெற்கு ) , 63. அவினாசி
Congress constituencies identified in TN Assembly Election. For the brief list, check Hindu (http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article1539999.ece?homepage=true)
wlbkng March 15th, 2011, 01:47 PM Kudankulam reactor commissioning in April
India has started the final stage of tests at Kudankulam NPP designed in Russia.
http://indrus.in/assets/images/2011-03/medium/kun_m.jpg
In the middle of March 2011 India has started the main stage of equipment tests at the first nuclear power unit of Kudankulam NPP under construction in the country’s south, The Hindu reported.
Kudankulam NPP is the first nuclear power plant, which is built with the Russian equipment by the Nuclear Power Corp of India Ltd. (NPCIL). Its phase one includes two power units with VVER-1000 reactors.
NPCIL Chairman and Managing Director Shreyans Kumar Jain said the “hot runs” are the last stage before loading fuel in the reactor. According to the technology, the hot runs that take about one month are followed by looping that also takes about a month. Only after the reactor first criticality is possible.
In December 2010 key hydraulic tests were carried out at the power unit. All separate systems have passed acceptance procedures. Some systems have been accepted as assembled after the cold runs. In spite of the fact that a VVER-1000 is installed in India for the first time no problems took place during acceptance procedures of separate systems, the newspaper quotes Jain as saying.
The agreement to build the Kudankulam nuclear power plant was signed by the USSR and India in November 1988. Ten years after, in June 1998 a supplemental to it was signed. Russia provided India a preference loan to build the facility. In 2002 construction of the first two units started under Atomstroyexport JSC management.
India and Russia have agreed to build at least four more units on this site.
http://indrus.in/articles/2011/03/14/kudankulam_reactor_commissioning_in_april_12280.html
Lets stop worrying unnecessarily. KKNPP is silently but slowly inching towards power production. Lets enjoy the power from less polluting resource. :D
vs007 March 15th, 2011, 01:51 PM Maratha,
So put in perspective, I don’t see any hazard for myself from the Kayamkulam Plant. But I need to worry about Kudankulam eventhough it is as far as (or more) Kayamkulam, as my city will fall under the secondary or tertiary (not sure) influence zone of that nuclear plant.
At the same time, we all also want electrical energy right?
The "Not my backyard" syndrome is understandable, but wherever you put up the plants, it would be some body's "backyard".
This one is far off from a major city, and in relatively low activity seismic zone. As mentioned earlier, more focus should be on safety measures (especially the secondary and tertiary and adequate secondary power backups for coolants), which turned out to be a huge issue in Japan's case whereby even the diesel power generators failed and lack of coolant. ( They are getting it from US now to prevent the meltdowns of the rods).
Jagadeesh R March 15th, 2011, 02:22 PM Comrades are much powerful than sick MDMK..
MDMK switched from dmK to ADMK for just 5 seats in 2006.. their vote banks is also not so strong... may be in south they have few.. but this can be nullified by Vijayakant...
In my opinion, JJ does not MDMK.. so any seats will be gain for MDMK..
So vaiko should accept the seats given by JJ, win them and then strengthen the party.
else
"suya mariyadhai" vaiko can walk out
Well said...
pdykid March 15th, 2011, 02:25 PM In my context, my concern is only the Nuclear Power Plant at Kudankulam. The closest thermal power plant is the Kayamkulam NTPC Plant, about 100 kms north, and it is Naptha based and not coal.
So put in perspective, I don’t see any hazard for myself from the Kayamkulam Plant. But I need to worry about Kudankulam eventhough it is as far as (or more) Kayamkulam, as my city will fall under the secondary or tertiary (not sure) influence zone of that nuclear plant.
OMG
God bless
sudheeshnairs March 15th, 2011, 02:45 PM ^^What OMG? Concern about a nuclear plant is natural. If the plants would have been reversed, say Nuclear Plant at Kayamkulam and Thermal Power Plant, I would be worrying about the one at Kayankulam.
At the same time, we all also want electrical energy right?
The "Not my backyard" syndrome is understandable, but wherever you put up the plants, it would be some body's "backyard".
This one is far off from a major city, and in relatively low activity seismic zone. As mentioned earlier, more focus should be on safety measures (especially the secondary and tertiary and adequate secondary power backups for coolants), which turned out to be a huge issue in Japan's case whereby even the diesel power generators failed and lack of coolant. ( They are getting it from US now to prevent the meltdowns of the rods).
Yes, energy is needed, it is a catch 22 situation. But of course one gets worried when it is there in his backyard. If it had been a thermal power plant, there would not have been much concern.
In this context what comes in to my mind is the Environment Ministry’s red signal to KSEB’s plan for ‘Aathirapally hydro electric Power Project’. We should focus more on alternate sources.
Marathaman March 15th, 2011, 02:48 PM ^You fail to understand the point. Thermal power plant is MORE HARMFUL than nuclear power plant.
You should be demanding a nuclear power plant in your backyard (well designed with all modern safety features) rather than a polluting thermal power plant. Even hydro power plants are bad for the surrounding population. Hence Narmada Bachao Andolan (NBA), Medha Patkar etc.
satchitananda March 15th, 2011, 02:50 PM Any form of energy creation entails some side effects even the most so called benign hydro power. (There is a big move in some parts of US to reclaim the mini dams, as they are mostly silted up and not functional.. so that they can restore the natural causeway for aquatic life. Just mentioning this to say even hydro power has its other side)
Having said that,
a) We all can contribute by minimizing our wastage and reducing our personal carbon footprint.
b) Increase the awareness by educating our sphere of influence.
c) Besides energy consumption, it will also aid if we do small steps like carry a bag for groceries, reduce plastic usage, compost if you can etc.. This is called the Butterfly effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect).
Nuclear plants are relatively safe. I had the privilege of entering into one of the layers of Kalpakkam reactor long time back. Usually the reactors are built based on the earthquake zone plus a buffer factor. The Japanese one survived the 9.0 earthquake, but it got tripped by tsunami side effect. Irrespective of that, the safety issue and the lessons to be learnt are very important. World over the lessons are keenly being watched.
India needs to invest in R&D - tapping newer energy sources and minimizing over dependance on oil.. We have the brain power... just need a determined political will and futuristic vision (We know Kalam could have provided, but for the most corrupt userless ridiculous congress..)
We need more Kalams from younger generation and I dare each one of us to explore within.
seku March 15th, 2011, 02:52 PM Agreed to the point that we need to ensure the utmost safety measures in any sort of plants, may it be Thermal, Chemical, or Nuclear etc etc.
We have learnt the impact of Nuclear from Japanese, and felt the impact of Chemical from our own Bhopal.
Question is, whether our nuclear facilities are in a shape to withstand any disaster similar to the recent Japan NPP disaster?
This is applicable to all NPP in India, irrespective of Kudankulam, Tarapur, Kaiga or Kalpakkam.
I hate to see news articles or comments on worries on one particular plant, and it's impact on a city which is 100 Kms away. :bash:
It's a wake up call for all of us.
wlbkng March 15th, 2011, 03:05 PM Adding to Maratha, who said hydroelectric projects are always safe? Dams also stress the earth's crust and can trigger earthquakes. There are lots of examples which happened in the past including Koyna Dam in Maharastra. There are lots of "water bombs" in the form of dams in India that might explode when an earthquakes happen or it may even trigger earthquake. When such things happen, life of people living downstream is still more danger and riskier than a potentially less accident prone nuclear power plant.
ChennaiIndian March 15th, 2011, 03:23 PM Well it seems strange to me that many think that only a 100 km radius will be affected if something goes wrong to a reactor. During Cheronbyl, the whole of Europe was affected. :nuts:
There are reactors near major cities in India which have been functioning for over half a century. Many of these are in seismic zones. So, if something goes wrong, everyone will be affected.
To all Blore vaasis...even you will be affected! :lol:
satchitananda March 15th, 2011, 03:26 PM The way we handled Bhopal case and the wonderful CG not pulling all the stops to punish one guilty company or atleast to get proper remuneration for the great losses only highlights the level to which safety is.
In the West, apart from other guidelines, cos are very afraid to get put our of business or incur very heavy losses for every loss of life. (Last year there was a coal mine disaster in W Virginia, where the co. is being taken to task by the federal govt.)
The reason why such issues exist is we still have a license raj system.. not only causes corruption, but also undermines safety.
We need not have to worry about immediate nuclear disaster in India, but its high time we have healthy discussions.. Not triggered by fear, but one based on raising the standards and quality..
Marathaman March 15th, 2011, 03:29 PM Well it seems strange to me that many think that only a 100 km radius will be affected if something goes wrong to a reactor. During Cheronbyl, the whole of Europe was affected. :nuts:
There are reactors near major cities in India which have been functioning for over half a century. Many of these are in seismic zones. So, if something goes wrong, everyone will be affected.
To all Blore vaasis...even you will be affected! :lol:
^^Oh god. Chernobyl again.
Comparing modern nuclear plants to Chernobyl is like comparing a Boeing jet to a WWII fighter plane. Reactor designs have improved vastly since then.
Japan: Chernobyl-style disaster 'unlikely' (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/2011/03/15/japan-chernobyl-style-disaster-unlikely-91466-28338659/)
kannan infratech March 15th, 2011, 03:30 PM As I had mentioned earlier, though my brain accepts the argument on Safety of the Reactors at Kalpakkam, their design & protective measures, my heart does not accept.
In the case of disaster, what is Plan A? How many people know about this? How much preparedness is there? Has it been tested ?
In case Plan A fails, what is Plan B ?
Why we all are kept in dark when it comes to Nuclear or Space in India? Is the state secret more important than the lives of the Citizen?
What are the health issues already faced by the employees, workers & nearby residential colonies? Why we are not informed of the same?
What happened at the Construction site during Tsunami ? Why Public were not informed?
What Sudheesh is expressing is a genuine fear. Why cant the authorities explain to his kind of people ?
We all are so confident since we are blissfully IGNORANT. Since the Probability of a disaster is also very remote, we tend to ignore the threats.
We should be AWARE of the threats and we should be properly trained and prepared for the same.
Marathaman March 15th, 2011, 03:39 PM ^Well on that I agree with you. Govt. should install safety mechanisms and informs the citizens about them. That's a different issue altogether.
seku March 15th, 2011, 03:58 PM As I had mentioned earlier, though my brain accepts the argument on Safety of the Reactors at Kalpakkam, their design & protective measures, my heart does not accept.
In the case of disaster, what is Plan A? How many people know about this? How much preparedness is there? Has it been tested ?
In case Plan A fails, what is Plan B ?
Why we all are kept in dark when it comes to Nuclear or Space in India? Is the state secret more important than the lives of the Citizen?
What are the health issues already faced by the employees, workers & nearby residential colonies? Why we are not informed of the same?
What happened at the Construction site during Tsunami ? Why Public were not informed?
What Sudheesh is expressing is a genuine fear. Why cant the authorities explain to his kind of people ?
We all are so confident since we are blissfully IGNORANT. Since the Probability of a disaster is also very remote, we tend to ignore the threats.
We should be AWARE of the threats and we should be properly trained and prepared for the same.
I don't think many here deny to your point. Safety has to be ensured, and public should be aware of the risks and consequences, and what is the contingency plan for any project which involves mass risk?
In fact, few went beyond nuclear, to Thermal/ Hydro/ Chemical. Which is good, as safety in all measures is required.
I don't think, anyone here is trying to say that Govt has ensured all safety measures, and the public is taken into confidence.
My point is, it's a concern of everyone & everywhere, and not specific to any particular plant/ region.
kannan infratech March 15th, 2011, 04:04 PM http://www.kalpakkam.com/node/59
satchitananda March 15th, 2011, 04:09 PM Think it goes both ways. Public are equally ignorant on the need for such awareness. Unless there is a strong requirement from public, our government usually tries to avoid doing even the basics.. You can blame our docile nature believing that if something is wrong, government has to take care of it..
@Kannan - If you have some contacts in DAE or Kalpakkam, I am sure they will be anxious to spread the word out for PR.
To start with some interested forummers can band together to visit IGCAR and get some first hand info and post it for forummers.
This will be far better than crying foul at government or having FEAR (all fears are imaginary - False Evidence Appearing Real)
bonoslack7 March 15th, 2011, 04:09 PM http://news.in.msn.com/business/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5035429
At present, there are 25,367 registered FPIs in the country, Minister of State for Food Processing Harish Rawat said in a written reply to Lok Sabha.
Andhra Pradesh topped the list with 6,402 operational FPIs with a capital investment of Rs 9,676 crore, he said quoting the competitiveness report of National Manufacturing Competitiveness Council (NMCC).
Among Southern states, Tamil Nadu has 3,736 operational FPIs while Karnataka (1,390) and Kerala (1,059), Rawat said.
Western states Maharashtra and Gujarat have an impressive 2,238 and 1,307 FPIs, respectively.
With 191 and 108 FPIs in Bihar and Jharkhand, respectively, Eastern states reflect poor showing. Besides, West Bengal has 1,147 units, Assam (897 units) and Orissa (535 units).
As per the official data, among the Northeastern states Tripura has 50 operational FPIs, Nagaland (16), Meghalaya (13) and Manipur (12).
seku March 15th, 2011, 04:12 PM ^^Oh god. Chernobyl again.
Comparing modern nuclear plants to Chernobyl is like comparing a Boeing jet to a WWII fighter plane. Reactor designs have improved vastly since then.
Japan: Chernobyl-style disaster 'unlikely' (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/2011/03/15/japan-chernobyl-style-disaster-unlikely-91466-28338659/)
Technical advancement could reduce or even avoid human mistakes drastically. But it cannot avoid the risks caused by any natural calamity of larger magnitude. May be it can improve the sustainability to certain extent ONLY.
kongutamizhan March 15th, 2011, 05:35 PM ^^ Forget about natural calamities. Do we have (and follow) an emergency procedure for predictable and man-made emergencies? We live in a society that has utter disregard to human life. IMO Sudeesh's concern is completely valid.
I do agree that as individuals and NGO's our response was laudable after Dec 2004 Tsunami. What about the prepardness prior to it? Even now what did we learn from it? Have we built any levies? Chennai-la assembly building kattuna kaasula oru sevura kattirukalamla? :lol:
Kalavaram nadantha edathukku balatha padhukappu podurathu ellam seri than. Nadakamma irukarathukku (illa nadantha impact-a koraka) naama idhu varikkum edhum senjatha varalaaru illayaEpa :)
kongutamizhan March 15th, 2011, 06:09 PM Cross posting from CBE thread. Jaya might contest (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/03/11/jaya-may-contest-from-gowndampalaya-aid0091.html)from CBE or Trichy
Arul Murugan March 15th, 2011, 06:10 PM I do agree that as individuals and NGO's our response was laudable after Dec 2004 Tsunami. What about the prepardness prior to it? Even now what did we learn from it? Have we built any levies?
Nothing! Just still they are building shelters/houses with world bank funds for those who lost house during 2004 Tsunami. innum vedae katti mudikila.. ithula lesson/protections/prepardness kellam engae porathu...??
The devastation was too large in Japan inspite they have sea wall...
Atleast Mangroves like in Cuddalore dt should help the coast.
From Kodikarai to Thiruchendur Srilanka and Palk strait is there to protect us from Tsunami.
But from Tiruchendur to Colachel... nothing is there.
http://web.mit.edu/12.000/www/m2009/teams/2/image005.jpg
http://web.mit.edu/12.000/www/m2009/teams/2/image002.jpg
this shows Cuddalore dt has less death than Kanchipuram/Nagai dt.
http://www.fao.org/docrep/010/ag124e/AG124E14.gif
Arul Murugan March 15th, 2011, 06:12 PM Cross posting from CBE thread. Jaya might contest (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/03/11/jaya-may-contest-from-gowndampalaya-aid0091.html)from CBE or Trichy
Why Andipatti gonna be Anjanenjan pocket? or she feared of Bargur like effect?:nuts:
kongutamizhan March 15th, 2011, 06:37 PM ^^ Guess could be Azhagiri effect. Bargur is from a different era, different political scenario.
Rumours from the beginning have been she is considering around Kongu belt. Earlier it was rumoured as Gobi.
Anniyan March 15th, 2011, 06:42 PM ^^ Guess could be Azhagiri effect. Bargur is from a different era, different political scenario.
Rumours from the beginning have been she is considering around Kongu belt. Earlier it was rumoured as Gobi.
SriRangam too in the rumour list.
saysenthil March 15th, 2011, 07:36 PM @Kannan_Infratech & @Sachitananda:
As I had mentioned earlier, though my brain accepts the argument on Safety of the Reactors at Kalpakkam, their design & protective measures, my heart does not accept.
In the case of disaster, what is Plan A? How many people know about this? How much preparedness is there? Has it been tested ?
In case Plan A fails, what is Plan B ?
Why we all are kept in dark when it comes to Nuclear or Space in India? Is the state secret more important than the lives of the Citizen?
What are the health issues already faced by the employees, workers & nearby residential colonies? Why we are not informed of the same?
What happened at the Construction site during Tsunami ? Why Public were not informed?
What Sudheesh is expressing is a genuine fear. Why cant the authorities explain to his kind of people ?
We all are so confident since we are blissfully IGNORANT. Since the Probability of a disaster is also very remote, we tend to ignore the threats.
We should be AWARE of the threats and we should be properly trained and prepared for the same.
Think it goes both ways. Public are equally ignorant on the need for such awareness. Unless there is a strong requirement from public, our government usually tries to avoid doing even the basics.. You can blame our docile nature believing that if something is wrong, government has to take care of it..
@Kannan - If you have some contacts in DAE or Kalpakkam, I am sure they will be anxious to spread the word out for PR.
To start with some interested forummers can band together to visit IGCAR and get some first hand info and post it for forummers.
This will be far better than crying foul at government or having FEAR (all fears are imaginary - False Evidence Appearing Real)
^^
I am myself from Kalapakkam ( & my dad is working at IGCAR). So I guess I could forward your concern and get back to you as soon as possible as far as safety is concerned.
Hope this helps to bring clarity among us!
seku March 15th, 2011, 07:47 PM That will really help. Also, can you share us your experience, as you live there.
1. Are there any special awareness spread across the town on safety & others?
2. How the post Tsunami was handled in the town?
3. Any regular drills?
kongutamizhan March 15th, 2011, 08:00 PM Tsunami. innum vedae katti mudikila.. ithula lesson/protections/prepardness kellam engae porathu...??
May be our politicians and media are thinking that they will lose the sensationalism from future Tsunami's if they reduce the impact by building walls.
Andha velaya mattum kaleengaro, JJ-o senja Tsunamiyai vizhungiya TsunamiyaE -nu stage pottu pattam kuduthu parattalam, thappillai. Kuthu dance ellam kooda oru 24 hourskku arrange seyyalam. Indha offer-a edhuthukirangala pappom.
bonoslack7 March 15th, 2011, 08:06 PM some more questions:
1) what will happen if 3-4 missiles strike the reactors?
2)what will happen if an earthquake as large as the one in japan strikes? Is the one in Japan superior/inferior to Kalpakkam?
3) If Kalpakkam is to be closed down, what will happen to the area, the reactors, uranium at the plant, etc.? Is it easy to close such a plant?
Thanks.
bonoslack7 March 15th, 2011, 08:13 PM http://www.sify.com/news/kudankulam-reactors-are-safe-news-international-ldpxkkadaih.html
The Kudankulam nuclear reactors are designed to be safe against natural calamities like earthquake and tsunami and there is no risk of flooding by sea, a senior official said here Tuesday.
M. Kasinath Balaji, site director, said the buildings that house the nuclear reactor and auxiliary equipment, reactor safety systems, safety diesel generators and others are designed to operate safely under seismic activity.
He said the Kudankulam project, located around 600 km from Chennai, has been provided with a shore protection bund of 7.5 metres from the mean sea level (MSL).
According to him, the design got testified during the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami that hit the Tamil Nadu coast.
The Nuclear Power Corporation of India Ltd (NPCIL) is building two 1,000 MW nuclear reactors at Kudankulam. The entire equipment is supplied by Russia.
According to Balaji, the Kudankulam reactor has the state of art Gen 3 plus safety design features that ensure reactor core is always filled with water containing boron.
This would ensure the temperature of water below the limits.
He said the reactors are cooled by natural circulation when there is loss of power supply to the re-circulation pumps.
According to him, each reactor has four diesel generator sets to supply standby power to keep the reactor cool when it is shut down.
He said there is remote possibility of the reactor core melting due to heat. And even if the core melts, there is a special feature known as core melt catcher to contain the damage.
According to the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board (AERB) of India, the situation at Japan's nuclear sites after the earthquake and tsunami is being monitored.
Technical information is coming in as the situation is evolving and a clearer picture will emerge progressively.
In India, of the 20 reactors (19 are in operation), only two units - namely Tarapur 1 and 2 - are Boiling Water Reactors (BWR) similar to ones at Fukushima, Japan.
All the reactors in India are designed to withstand the effects of earthquake and tsunami of specific magnitudes, which are decided, based on conservative criteria.
AERB will be carrying out a comprehensive reassessment of safety and emergency mitigation measures of all the Indian nuclear power plants in the light of the unprecedented event in Japan.
satchitananda March 15th, 2011, 08:54 PM 1) what will happen if 3-4 missiles strike the reactors?
2)what will happen if an earthquake as large as the one in japan strikes? Is the one in Japan superior/inferior to Kalpakkam?
Situations could be similar result (except from military stand point).
Usually world over (including US), they assume the worst known/anticipated earthquake, add a buffer safety factor and build a plant. For eg., a reactor in california will have higher earthquake withstanding ability than the one in new jersey.
Since Japan is in ring of fire and Kalpakkam was built when seismic zone of the region was much lower, I would expect it to be inferior in terms of earthquake withstanding.
3) If Kalpakkam is to be closed down, what will happen to the area, the reactors, uranium at the plant, etc.? Is it easy to close such a plant?
To answer this above question correctly is what the forummers have been trying to point out that the safety info is not disseminated properly.
saysenthil March 15th, 2011, 08:56 PM 1. Are there any special awareness spread across the town on safety & others?
2. How the post Tsunami was handled in the town?
3. Any regular drills?
4) what will happen if 3-4 missiles strike the reactors?
5)what will happen if an earthquake as large as the one in japan strikes? Is the one in Japan superior/inferior to Kalpakkam?
6) If Kalpakkam is to be closed down, what will happen to the area, the reactors, uranium at the plant, etc.? Is it easy to close such a plant?
Answers (from my knowledge):
1. Are there any special awareness spread across the town on safety & others?
Around 20 km must be minimum distance maintained for any residential or commercial complex. I guess its maintained to "certain level". Say upto the accuracy of 90%.
2. How the post Tsunami was handled in the town?
Kalpakkam is a township. Both reactor as well as township has been always procted against the sea waves using well constructed wall engulfing the region. (This was primarily done to prevent theft & not for Tsunami). However post Tsunami, they have really built unbeleivably good, strong & huge walls along the sea shore.
3.Any regular drills?
I have heard of it; I havent experienced that. Its mostly done for those located outside the township.
4. what will happen if 3-4 missiles strike the reactors?
---> Its too high level question for me to answer.
5.what will happen if an earthquake as large as the one in japan strikes? Is the one in Japan superior/inferior to Kalpakkam?
---> Its too high level question for me to answer. But will certainly ask my dad.
6.If Kalpakkam is to be closed down, what will happen to the area, the reactors, uranium at the plant, etc.? Is it easy to close such a plant?
I have heard about this. I guess they have a plan to build a stucture around the core; once its half life is reached then it will be buried safely deep into the sea. BUT I CAN ASK & TELL U ACCURATELY.
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Well, well, well, even when Tsunami struck TN & Kalpakkam no one raised these many questions. :nuts:
But I got to tell u the fact that when Tsunami happened in Kalpakkam luckily no water (very less amount) entered the nuclear power plant as such when compared with Kalpakkam township or adjacent regions. THis was the KEY reason that no one would have heard anything about what happened exactly in Kalpakkam nuclear reactor during Tsunami!
Let me clarify few more points & then let u all know! :)
satchitananda March 15th, 2011, 08:57 PM @Kannan_Infratech & @Sachitananda:
^^
I am myself from Kalapakkam ( & my dad is working at IGCAR). So I guess I could forward your concern and get back to you as soon as possible as far as safety is concerned.
Hope this helps to bring clarity among us!
SaySenthil that would be invaluable.
kongutamizhan March 15th, 2011, 09:06 PM This guy beats DMK (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/03/15/mansoor-ali-khan-election-promise-aid0091.html)in their game for now.
kongutamizhan March 15th, 2011, 10:37 PM 3. Any regular drills?
I think drill is happening. This is what vaiko has to say (http://new.vikatan.com/news.php?nid=1432)about "othigai payirchi". Someone has to educate vaiko about the drill. Other than that his questions remain valid!!
இந்திய அணு உலைகளின் பாதுகாப்பு தன்மையை மக்களுக்கு தெளிவுபடுத்த வேண்டும்: வைகோ
சென்னை, மார்ச்.15, 2011
கல்பாக்கம், கூடங்களம் உள்ளிட்ட இந்தியாவின் 20 அணு உலைகளின் நிலை குறித்து அச்சம் ஏற்பட்டுள்ளதால், அவற்றின் பாதுகாப்பு விஷயத்தில் உண்மை நிலையை மக்களுக்கு தெளிவுபடுத்த வேண்டும் என்று மத்திய அரசுக்கு மதிமுக பொதுச் செயலாளர் வைகோ வலியுறுத்தியுள்ளார்.
இதுகுறித்து அவர் இன்று வெளியிட்ட அறிக்கையில், "சாம்பலில் இருந்து உயிர் பெற்று எழுந்திடும் ஸ்பீனிக்ஸ் பறவையைப் போல, இரண்டாம் உலகப் போரில் அமெரிக்கா வீசிய அணுகுண்டுத் தாக்குதலில் இருந்து உயிர்த்து எழுந்த ஜப்பான், உலக வல்லரசுகளுக்குச் சவால் விடுகின்ற வகையில், நவீன விஞ்ஞான கண்டுபிடிப்புகளுக்குத் தாயகமாக விளங்கி வருகிறது. அமைதியான வாழ்க்கையை நடத்தி வந்த ஜப்பானிய மக்களின் வாழ்வில், கடந்த 11.3.2011 கருப்பு தினமாக மாறி விட்டது.
தொடர் பூகம்பம், எரிமலைச் சீற்றம், ஆழிப் பேரலை என இயற்கை சீற்றமும், அதனைத் தொடர்ந்து அணு உலை வெடித்துச் சிதறி செயற்கைப் பேராபத்தும் ஜப்பானை முற்றுகை இட்டன. பத்து ஆயிரத்துக்கும் மேற்பட்டோர் பலியாகி விட்டனர். லட்சக்கணக்கானோர், உயிர்களையும், உடமைகளையும் இழந்து, வெட்ட வெளியில் கடும் குளிரில் வாடி வதங்கிக் கொண்டு இருக்கின்றனர்.
நவீன விஞ்ஞான உலகில் எட்டிப் பிடிக்க முடியாத சிகரத்தில் இருந்த ஜப்பானுக்கே இந்த நிலை என்றால், இந்திய அணு உலைகளின் பாதுகாப்பு என்ன? என்பது கேள்விக்குறியாகி இருக்கிறது. ஏனெனில், இந்தியாவும் சுனாமித் தாக்குதலுக்கு உள்ளாகி, பல்லாயிரக்கணக்கான உயிர்களைப் பலிகொடுத்து இருக்கிறது. எதிர்காலத்திலும், அத்தகைய ஆபத்து நிலவுகிறது.
எனவே, இந்தியாவில் உள்ள 20 அணு உலைகள் தமிழ்நாட்டில் உள்ள கல்பாக்கம், கூடங்குளம் போன்ற அணு உலைககளின் நிலை குறித்து அச்சம் ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது.
பாதுகாப்பான அணு உலைகள் என்றால், அவ்வப்போது அணு உலை நிர்வாகமும், மாவட்ட ஆட்சித் தலைவர், காவல் துறை உயர் அதிகாரிகள், தீயணைப்புத் துறையினர், அபாயச்சங்கு ஒலிக்கச் செய்து மக்கள் பொதுமக்கள் பாதுகாப்பான இடம் நோக்கி ஓடித் தப்பிக்க பாதுகாப்பு ஒத்திகை பயிற்சி அளிப்பதன் மர்மம் என்ன?
எனவே, பாதுகாப்பு விஷயத்தில் உண்மையை மக்களுக்குத் தெளிவுபடுத்த வேண்டும் என்றும் அணு உலைகளுக்கு மாற்று சக்திகளைக் கண்டறிந்து பயன்படுத்த வேண்டும் என்றும் மதிமுக சார்பில் கேட்டுக்கொள்வகிறது என்று வைகோ கூறியுள்ளார்.
vs007 March 15th, 2011, 11:41 PM As I had mentioned earlier, though my brain accepts the argument on Safety of the Reactors at Kalpakkam, their design & protective measures, my heart does not accept.
In the case of disaster, what is Plan A? How many people know about this? How much preparedness is there? Has it been tested ?
In case Plan A fails, what is Plan B ?
Why we all are kept in dark when it comes to Nuclear or Space in India? Is the state secret more important than the lives of the Citizen?
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Your points are all valid and a matter of grave concern esp after 4 levels of security including the diesel generator failed in the Japanese reactor causing the radiation. Besides the decades old kalpakkam reactoris near a major metro.
Hence I was hoping that reactor comes under IAEA inspection with the nuclear deal, but I believe the GoI have kept it out of its purview. Had IAEA been allowed to inspect, atleast there would be guarantee of atleast some primary protective measures be present.
A safe nuclear reactor( maybe oxymoron) is still the best energy source unlike a thermal power point which releases toxic gases on a daily basis making you sick. Had we gone for the French design with regular intl inspectors and the operation given to a EU firm requiring a huge liability insurance, it would have been much much safer making everyone sleep better.( and Sudheesh probably with still one eye open. j/k :) ).
Mr.Nellai March 16th, 2011, 03:13 AM http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/1632011/16032011-cni-mn-01/22112937.JPG
Mr.Nellai March 16th, 2011, 03:18 AM http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/1632011/16032011-cni-mn-09/2473878.JPG
Mr.Nellai March 16th, 2011, 03:46 AM ''No fears of Japan type crisis in Koodankulam nuke plant''
Tirunelveli (TN),Mar 15 (PTI) Seeking to allay fears of a possible nuclear crisis like the one in Japan following the devastating tsunami, a top official of the Koodankulam Nuclear Plant today said the design and safety aspects of the plant had withstood such tests. "Koodankulam is in very low seismic category zone 2 area. Morever, ground elevation of all buildings is 25 feet above sea level to preclude any type of flooding, including tsunami. All buildings have been designed to operate safely under seismic activity," KKNP director Kasinath Balaji told reporters.
The December 2004 tsunami tested all safety aspects of the plant, which have reactors of ''Generation Three'' plus designs pressurised water reactor type reactors with latest safety features like double containment with liner, passive heat removal system to provide cooling for removal of decay heat. Additional shutdown systems for the reactor had also been put in place, he said.
He said the reactor core is always filled with boron water ensuring temperatures are well below limits. There are 12 huge water accumulators in the reactor building to ensure it is filled with boron water if there is water loss from the core. Cooling is by natural circulation of water. "Each reactor at Kudankulam is provided with four redundant diesel generators, of which only one is required to keep the reactor cool under shutdown condition. These are 30 feet above mean sea level, isolated from tsunami like floods," he said.
In the most unlikely event of core meltdown, a special feature called core melt catcher contains the process. If any hydrogen is formed, passive hydrogen re-combiners in the containment re-combines the hydrogen back to water. All system circuits were recently hydro tested to verify their structural integrity and the results were certified and accepted by Indian and Russian specialists as well as the Indian Atomic Energy Regulatory Board, he said. Unit-1 of KKNPP would soon be ready for a ''hot run'' in a couple of days when all safety systems would be tested for its design capability during operation, he said.
Source (http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5036835)
ChennaiIndian March 16th, 2011, 04:16 AM ^^Oh god. Chernobyl again.
Comparing modern nuclear plants to Chernobyl is like comparing a Boeing jet to a WWII fighter plane. Reactor designs have improved vastly since then.
Japan: Chernobyl-style disaster 'unlikely' (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/2011/03/15/japan-chernobyl-style-disaster-unlikely-91466-28338659/)
Exactly!
bonoslack7 March 16th, 2011, 06:42 AM http://www.bestmediainfo.com/2011/03/irs-q4-2010-top-10-dailies-in-tamil-nadu/
The fourth quarter results of Indian Readership Survey in 2010 have been very disappointing for most of the top publications in Tamil Nadu while all the top 10 dailies in the state have lost ground over the year.
The largest read daily of Tamil Nadu ‘Daily Thanthi’ has seen a considerable decline once again in this quarter. By losing 4.1% readership, the Tamil daily has registered an AIR of 67.96 lakh in IRS Q4 2010 as compared to 70.84 lakh in the previous quarter. Daily Thanthi had lost 1.79 lakh readers in Q3 while it had added 68,000 readers in Q2. The daily has seen an overall decline of 5.5% over the year.
The No.2 daily of the state ‘Dinakaran’ has registered a marginal increase in its average issue readership (AIR) in the last quarter of IRS 2010. Its current AIR stands at 48.25 lakh as compared to 48.09 lakh in the previous quarter. The daily had lost 1.82 lakh readers in Q3 and 1.5 lakh readers in Q2. Thus, the readership of Dinakaran has declined by 6.1% in the state over the year.
The 3rd major player in Tamil Nadu, ‘Dinamalar’ has also registered a loss of 5.5% in the fourth quarter of IRS 2010. Its current AIR stands at 25.13 lakh as compared to 26.6 lakh in IRS Q3 2010. The paper had lost 2 lakh readers Q3 and 1.24 lakh readers in Q2. The readership of Dinamalar has fallen by 15.8% during 2010.
Tamil Nadu as strong hold for ‘The Hindu’ has not been a fertile ground for the daily in the state this year where it has lost its readers in every quarter. By losing 29,000 readers, its AIR now stands at 10.85 lakh as compared to 11.11 lakh in IRS Q3 2010. The paper had lost 20,000 readers in Q3 and 23,000 in Q2. The Hindu has seen an overall decline of 6.2% over the year.
The No.5 daily of Tamil Nadu ‘Malai Malar’ has continued losing its average issue readership throughout the year. The newspaper has recorded an AIR of 4.28 lakh as compared to 5.06 in Q3, 5.56 in Q2 and 6.06 in Q1.
At No.6 ‘Dinamani’ has also lost 13.3% readers in IRS Q4 2010. It has recorded an AIR of 3.98 lakh as compared to 4.59 lakh in the last survey findings. It had lost 53,000 readers in Q3 and 24,000 readers in IRS Q2 2010.
‘Deccan Chronicle’ remains at 7th spot in the state with an AIR of 2.24 lakh as compared to 2.15 lakh in IRS Q3 2010. It had lost 35,000 readers in Q3 and 20,000 readers in Q2.
As No.8 daily in Tamil Nadu, ‘The Times of India’ has an AIR of 2.11 lakh readers as compared to 2.04 lakh in Q3, 2.21 lakh in Q2 and 2.20 lakh in Q1.
Climbing up a position at No.9 is ‘The New Indian Express’ which has recovered its losses in Q3. Its current AIR stands at 1.1 lakh as compared to 95,000 in Q3, 1.08 lakh in Q2 and 1.12 in Q1.
‘Tamizh Murasu’ has an AIR of 97,000 in IRS Q4 2010 as compared to 1.42 lakh in Q3. The newspaper has now No.10 position in Tamil Nadu.
Arul Murugan March 16th, 2011, 07:41 AM ^^
Is this due to internet penetration right from Chennai to Villages?
Ranking is here...
1. Daily thanthi
2. Dinakaran
3. Dinamalar
4. The Hindu
5. Malai Malar
6. Dinamani
7. Deccan Chronicle
8. TOI
9. The new Indian express
10. Tamil murasu
seku March 16th, 2011, 08:27 AM ^^ Even internet may not be the factor. It's TVs.
Arul Murugan March 16th, 2011, 09:40 AM TN assembly seats
http://www.mapsofindia.com/assemblypolls/tamil-nadu-asembly-constituencies-map.jpg
seku March 16th, 2011, 10:45 AM http://www.hindu.com/2011/03/16/images/2011031661990101.jpg
CHENNAI: Politicians and their aides in Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh admitted to violating election law to influence voters in the 2009 Lok Sabha polls through payments in the form of cash, goods, or services, according to a revealing cable sent to the State Department by Frederick J. Kaplan, Acting Principal Officer of the U.S. Consulate-General in Chennai. In conversations with a visiting consulate team, Karti Chidambaram of the Congress, M. Patturajan, confidant of Union Minister for Chemicals and Fertilizers M.K. Alagiri and former Mayor of Madurai, and Member of Parliament Assaduddin Owaisi of the Majlis-e-Ittenhadul Muslimeen spoke without inhibition about how they, their principals, or their parties made payments to voters during the election campaign.
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For example, during visits to slums in Chennai and Hyderabad, they “learned that poor urban voters expect political parties to pay come election time.” They were told by a DMK political strategist that “slums are critical to a campaign because their population density and poverty allows them to be more ‘easily mobilized' by bribes.” Representatives of a non-governmental organisation working in a Chennai slum said that “the two main political parties in Tamil Nadu – the DMK and the AIADMK – regularly bribe voters.” They described a “sophisticated operation” to distribute cash: “Weeks before the elections agents of the parties come to the neighborhood with cash carried in rice sacks. They have copies of the voter lists and they distribute the money based on who is on the list.” The agents come in the middle of the night, “between two and four in the morning, when the Election Commission is asleep.”
‘Can I get another morning paper?'
In Madurai, “virtually every conversation centred on the parliamentary candidacy of Mr. M.K. Azhagiri,” who according to Mr. Kaplan had “added money” to his “political muscle” and was “using it to a degree previously unseen in Tamil Nadu.” His “confidant” Mr. Patturajan confirmed that cash payments were paid to voters by the DMK to secure the Assembly seat in the January 2009 by-election at Thirumangalam. “It is no secret at all, Azhagiri paid 5,000 rupees per voter in Thirumangalam,” he is quoted as saying in the cable.
http://www.hindu.com/2011/03/16/stories/2011031661990100.htm
Arul Murugan March 16th, 2011, 12:45 PM A Raja's business associate Sadiq Batcha commits suicide
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/a-raja-s-business-associate-sadiq-batcha-commits-suicide-92080
Arul Murugan March 16th, 2011, 01:01 PM நெருக்கடி ! சாதிக்பாட்ஷா தற்கொலையின் பின்னணியில் அரசியல் நெருக்கடி இருக்கலாம் என கூறப்படுகிறது. 2ஜி வழக்கில் கைதாகி சிறையில் இருக்கும் ராஜா மீது வருகிற 31ம் தேதியன்று குற்றப்பத்திரிகை தாக்கல் செய்யப்படும் என சி.பி.ஐ., இன்று சுப்ரீம்கோர்ட்டில் தெரிவித்தது. இதையடுத்து இந்த வழக்கில் தனக்கு நெருக்கடி ஏற்படும் என கருதிய சாதிக்பாட்சா தற்கொலை செய்திருக்கலாம் என்றும் கூறப்படுகிறது.
http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=206895
TShyam March 16th, 2011, 01:05 PM Looks like murder. This is what happens when people try to make a quick buck illegally.
I dont want to speak ill of the dead. May his soul RIP.
I feel Raja is safer in Jail.
saysenthil March 16th, 2011, 01:10 PM Here I have added the reply from my dad employed @ IGCAR, Kalpakkam....
As I had mentioned earlier, though my brain accepts the argument on Safety of the Reactors at Kalpakkam, their design & protective measures, my heart does not accept.
In the case of disaster, what is Plan A? How many people know about this? How much preparedness is there? Has it been tested ?
Ans:
We have been informing all the employees how to behave during emergency every year .
We also make mock up drills for the neighbourhood what to do during emergency.
this is done in concultation with district admininstartion with the help of collector.
In case Plan A fails, what is Plan B ?
Why we all are kept in dark when it comes to Nuclear or Space in India? Is the state secret more important than the lives of the Citizen?
Ans:
Through periodic review committess our activities are reviewed. It is documented and submitted to various committes. When public raises issues on safety , dept replies positively in time.
What happened at the Construction site during Tsunami ? Why Public were not informed?
Whatever happened during Tsunami has been published in newspapers and public is informed.
What Sudheesh is expressing is a genuine fear. Why cant the authorities explain to his kind of people ?
We all are so confident since we are blissfully IGNORANT. Since the Probability of a disaster is also very remote, we tend to ignore the threats.
We should be AWARE of the threats and we should be properly trained and prepared for the same.
Ans:
One thing is clear that son of a DAE employee also has a lot of doubts about our nuclear programme. May be some more tarnsparency and awareness must be made to public.
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Hope this helps to bring clarity!!
vs007 March 16th, 2011, 03:06 PM Here I have added the reply from my dad employed @ IGCAR, Kalpakkam....
Wow! Thanks!
Could you ask him whether international bodies like IAEA have done any third party verification of the design and operating procedures etc?
Malaysia Mustafa March 16th, 2011, 03:46 PM வரும் சட்டசபை தேர்தலில்* அ.தி.மு.க., பொதுச்செயலாளர் ஜெயலலிதா திருச்சியில் உள்ள ஸ்ரீரங்கம் தொகுதியில் போட்டியிகிறார். கடந்த சட்டசபை தேர்தலில் அவர் ஆண்டிபட்டி தொகுதியில் வெற்றி பெற்றார் என்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது.
http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=206920
greatshankar March 16th, 2011, 05:32 PM World Tamil Population
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35144105/Tamil-Population
http://www.tamilo.com/tamil-population-education-29.html
kongutamizhan March 16th, 2011, 05:47 PM http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/03/16/congress-has-got-more-seats-north-tn-aid0091.html
அதிமுகவின் கோட்டையாக கொங்கு மண்டலம் திகழ்வதால் அங்கு திமுக அதிகம் போட்டியிடவில்லை. மாறாக அந்தப் பகுதியில் 10 தொகுதிகள் உள்பட மேற்கு மண்டலத்தில் மொத்தமாக 11 தொகுதிகளையும் காங்கிரஸுக்கே கொடுத்து விட்டது. இது தவிர அப் பகுதியில் மேலும் 7 தொகுதிகளையும் கொங்கு நாடு முன்னேற்றக் கழகத்திடம் திமுக தரவுள்ளது. இதனால் கொங்கு மண்டலத்தை திமுக கிட்டத்தட்ட கை கழுவிவிட்டதாகவே தெரிகிறது.
saysenthil March 16th, 2011, 06:12 PM @vs007
Wow! Thanks!
Could you ask him whether international bodies like IAEA have done any third party verification of the design and operating procedures etc?
I could answer this imme..... As per our agreement with internation bodies, we have agreed to open up partially. Kalpakkam is a strategic establishment where they do more than just power production. So I am sure that they havent opened that up for any sort of inspection, nor will they do.
However it doesnt means that they dont adhere to international safety standards. I have always heard that Kalpakkam is probably one of the most safe place to have a reactor (Due to its geographical position). And whenever u construct a nuclear reactor u do it in association with nuclear experts from abroad. So always the norms have been maintained. I am sure sure about this information.
TShyam March 16th, 2011, 06:21 PM Western TN has 7 districts and 50 seats of which DMK is contesting exactly half (25) which is proportionate with the overall picture. So it is not as if they are abandoning west. Infact they are contesting only 35 of 80 seats in north and central TN.
VS007: Kalpakkam is a strategic reactor. It is out of IAEA inspections.
chidambaram_mech04 March 16th, 2011, 06:44 PM ADMK Announces candidates list for 160 constituences. No seats alloted for MDMK!!!!
bonoslack7 March 16th, 2011, 07:38 PM one doubt..how does cash for votes work? how do parties ensure that people vote for them only? thanks
kongutamizhan March 16th, 2011, 08:06 PM one doubt..how does cash for votes work? how do parties ensure that people vote for them only? thanks
I guess it's trust!! When they give money, they trust us and appears like we never fail them. But when we trusted them and voted them in (prior to vote-for-money scheme) they failed to deliver. Doesn't it show that the society is better than their leaders? It breaks the myth that society deserves the leadership it gets :lol:
Anniyan March 16th, 2011, 08:09 PM one doubt..how does cash for votes work? how do parties ensure that people vote for them only? thanks
Voters have to give 'god promise' by beating the camphor flame at their local temple.
Our folks are god fearing you know.
OnionPrice March 16th, 2011, 08:11 PM More parties, more money!!
OnionPrice March 16th, 2011, 08:12 PM Voters have to give 'god promise' by beating the camphor flame at their local temple
Other religion voters? :nuts:
vs007 March 16th, 2011, 08:22 PM Kalpakkam is a strategic establishment where they do more than just power production. So I am sure that they havent opened that up for any sort of inspection, nor will they do.
Thanks for your response!
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I still wish that they had chosen some other reactor than Chennai's for weapon grade uranium production, so that IAEA can fully inspect and monitor. Mark me as a skeptic, but I would trust an independent foreign bodies over any Indian organizations.
The map shows the seismic zones of India and the nuclear reactors and surprisingly both Chennai and KK nuclear plants are in border of Zone 3, thats a shame!
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/india-nuclear-and-seismological-map/146125-3.html
Malaysia Mustafa March 16th, 2011, 08:30 PM Cross Posting from Funny Pics of India
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6553/funnyak.jpg
ceeznic pirate March 16th, 2011, 08:43 PM ADMK Announces candidates list for 160 constituences. No seats alloted for MDMK!!!!
Thats too harsh :)
kongutamizhan March 16th, 2011, 08:48 PM Thanks for your response!
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I still wish that they had chosen some other reactor than Chennai's for weapon grade uranium production, so that IAEA can fully inspect and monitor.
Why?
CBE_Poonakutty March 16th, 2011, 09:53 PM AIADMK contests 29 of the 37 (Almost 80%) "Greater Chennai" constituencies (in Thiruvallur, Chennai and Kancheepuram districts) while the DMK is contesting only 17 (45%) of them.
Both the major parties are on the retreat in northern TN. They contest only 18 of the 43 northern TN constituencies. They have left it to their allies to battle it out here.
These two parties are pretty evenly spread out in the remaining regions except ADMK which has clearly avoided the Vanniyar-Dalit hinterland of Ariyalur, Perambalur and Cuddalore districts. It is contesting only 3 of the 13 (23%) constituencies. Expect some DMDK Vs VC-PMK fireworks here.
ADMK is going out full steam in the western districts contesting 38 of 50 seats (76%) and in regions south of Madurai (37 of 47 - 79%). These regions has the highest concentration of ADMK Vs DMK/INC face offs. Watch out particularly for ADMK Vs DMK battles in southern districts where anjanenjan Alagiri is out to prove his worth in traditional ADMK bastions manned by ADMK heavy weights including former CM O.P.S himself. It promises to be a high voltage affair.
PMK is up against ADMK in 19 of its 30 constituencies. No significant statistical deviation there. But what this data hides is the fact that 5 of those constituencies (Kovilpatti - Tuticurin dist, Sholavandan - Madurai dist, Alangudi - Pudukottai dist, Dindugal, and Bhavani - Erode dist) dont have any captive caste votes for PMK whatsoever. It is clear thatha has pushed these to PMK. Unless something really weird happens, expect some decimation in these constituencies. In addition, PMK is up against ADMK in Gummidipoondi and Velacherry constituencies in the greater Chennai area. Very little hopes for PMK here too. So If PMK doesnt do well in its traditional bastions (where they are mostly up against DMDK), they may not get into double figures.
Newbie KNMK is facing ADMK in 6 of its 7 constituencies where they are invariably up against heavy weights and ministerial hopefuls - Sengottaiyan, Pollachi V Jayaraman, KP Paramasivam among others. I am expecting KNMK to change its name to AVK (Adi Vaanguna Kaipulla) after elections.
P.S:
1.Classifying Dindugal is confusing - constituencies like Palani and Odanchathiram are too close to western TN (Udumalpet, Pollachi) and places like Dindugal and Vedansanthur are closer to Madurai. So I did not include it in either.
2. Except for the fact that JJ is contesting in Srirangam, there is nothing exciting in Trichy, Pudukottai districts.
3. I wanted to write a racy account of the elections. Hope I have done a good job. It promises to be more exciting once DMK releases its list. We can get an idea of whether DMDK will be able to manage DMK's onslaught.
kongutamizhan March 16th, 2011, 10:22 PM ^^ Do you have complete breakup (across all parties) for all seats in CBE-Tirupur-Nilgiris area?
Mr.Nellai March 16th, 2011, 11:03 PM Jaya to contest from Srirangam: AIADMK announces list
The opposition AIADMK General Secretary and former Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa will seek election from Srirangam in Tiruchirapalli district, in the April 13 Assembly elections in Tamil Nadu, as the party announced the list of candidates for 160 seats, ejecting its long-time ally, the MDMK, from the front.
Ms Jayalalithaa announced the list of candidates after finalising the identification of seats to its allies, including Vijayakanth's DMDK, Left parties and other minor allies.
As widely speculated, Ms Jayalalithaa is seeking election from the temple town of Srirangam, shifting from Andipatti in Madurai district, from where she got elected to the assembly in the 2006 elections. Andipatti had also been the constituency of her mentor and AIADMK founder, and former Chief Minister MGR.
Most of the AIADMK senior leaders, including O Panneerselvam, K A Sengottaiyan, E Madusoodanan, D Jayakumar, B Valarmathi and former ministers K P Krishnan, Raja Kannappan and sitting members V P Kalairajan, S M Velusamy, S Ve Shanmugam have been renominated.
Surprisingly, the AIADMK has fielded only 12 women candidates, which constituted 7.5 per cent of 160 seats.
DMDK Youth Wing leader L K Sudhish said the party has been given 41 seats and party leader Vijayakanth would announce the list of candidates in a couple of days.
CPI(M) state unit secretary G Ramakrishanan said the party would announce the list of candidates after the state committee meeting on March 19.
The MDMK, led by Mr Vaiko is now on the horns of a dilemma, what with the AIADMK refusing to concede its demand for more seats. The party was offered around eight seats, which Mr Vaiko had turned down and convened the party's high level meeting on March 19 to decide the future course of action.
Source (http://netindian.in/news/2011/03/16/00011826/jaya-contest-srirangam-aiadmk-announces-list)
kongutamizhan March 16th, 2011, 11:08 PM Guys!! another fresh rumor I heard from my friend @ Chennai. Amma trying to pressurize Vaiko to dissolve party and contest on ADMK ticket. He also added that she is planning to develop vaiko as #2 leader in ADMK. Any truth in it?
Mr.Nellai March 16th, 2011, 11:09 PM DMK rules out possibility of MDMK joining its alliance
DMK president and Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi on Wednesday ruled out the possibility of MDMK joining his party-led alliance after the AIADMK virtually shut the door on that party.
Answering reporters' queries here, he said there was "no chance" of the Vaiko-led party joining the DMK-led alliance to fight the April 13 Assembly polls.
AIADMK had announced contesting from 160 seats in the state, thus virtually shutting the door on Vaiko, the party's ally since 2006.
To a question on the constituency problems involving CPI-M and AIADMK, Karunanidhi said he "does not peep into neighbours' houses".
Asked when his party would hit the campaign trail, he said that would be after the release of the party manifesto, scheduled on March 19.
The 86-year-old leader evaded direct replies on his party allotting more seats to allies (such as Congress) in Chennai, considered to be his party's stronghold.
Meanwhile, Karunanidhi firmed up his party's poll pact with the Kongunadu Munnetra Kazhagam, allotting them seven seats.
The DMK allotted one seat each to Moovendar Munnetra Kazhagam and Peruthalaivar Makkal Katchi, which will fight elections from the DMK symbol, the Rising Sun.
Source (http://www.sify.com/news/dmk-rules-out-possibility-of-mdmk-joining-its-alliance-news-national-ldqxEceefca.html)
TShyam March 16th, 2011, 11:13 PM Guys!! another fresh rumor I heard from my friend @ Chennai. Amma trying to pressurize Vaiko to dissolve party and contest on ADMK ticket. He also added that she is planning to develop vaiko as #2 leader in ADMK. Any truth in it?
Ask your friend what is he smoking. I may need it :lol:
TShyam March 16th, 2011, 11:17 PM @KT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Nadu_legislative_assembly_election,_2011
The list is not complete but wherever there is gap in DMK+ column, assume DMK is contesting. Allotment is over for all other parties.
kongutamizhan March 16th, 2011, 11:22 PM Ask your friend what is he smoking. I may need it :lol:
He is basing it on what he heard from some vattam / mavattam guy and vikatan news. Dammit just realized that my vikatan subscription ended. For some reason ICICI payment gateway is blocked at work. Got to renew it once I get home.
TShyam March 16th, 2011, 11:25 PM Hmmm feels too far fetched. But hey this is TN and we are talking politics.
Mr.Nellai March 16th, 2011, 11:30 PM Vice chancellors of Anna University and M.S(nellai) university to contest in election?
Enna koduma saravanan ithu!
நெல்லையில் அதிமுக, திமுக சார்பில் துணை வேந்தர்கள் போட்டியா?
தமிழக சட்டபேரவை தேர்தலில், நெல்லையில் அதிமுக, திமுக சார்பி்ல் முன்னாள் துணை வேந்தர்கள் போட்டியிடுவார்கள் என பரபரப்பான தகவல்கள் வெளியாகியுள்ளன.
பட்டமளிப்பு விழாவில் மாலை ராஜா எம்எல்ஏ-வால் தாக்கப்பட்டதாகக் கூறப்படும் நெல்லை அண்ணா பல்கலைகழக துணை வேந்தர் காளியப்பன் விருப்ப ஓய்வு பெற்றுவிட்டார். தற்போது அதிமுகவில் ஐக்கியமாகி சீட் கேட்டு விருப்ப மனுவும் தாக்கல் செய்துள்ளார். இவருக்கு அதிமுகவில் ஒரு தொகுதி உறுதியாக வழங்கப்பட உள்ளதாகவும், நெல்லை மாவட்டத்தில் ஒரு தொகுதியில் போட்டியிட வாய்ப்பு வழங்கப்படும் என்றும் கூறப்படுகிறது.
அதேசமயம் நெல்லை மனோன்மணியம் சுந்தரனார் பல்கலைக்கழக துணைவேந்தர் பணியில் இருந்து ஓய்வு பெறப்போகும் சபாபதி மோகனுக்கு திமுக சார்பில் போட்டியிட வாய்ப்பு கிடைக்கும் என்று தகவல்கள் தெரிவிக்கின்றன. திமுக அனுதாபியாக இருக்கும் சபாபதிக்கு வாய்ப்பு கிடைக்கும் என்று கட்சி பிரமுகர்கள் தெரிவிக்கின்றனர். மொத்தத்தில் நெல்லையில் தேர்தல் களம் தற்போதுதான் சூடுபிடிக்கத் தொடங்கியுள்ளது.
Source (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/03/16/assembly-election-vice-chancellors-contest-aid0128.html)
kongutamizhan March 16th, 2011, 11:30 PM Savukku says ADMK alliance may break (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=550:2011-03-16-17-02-23&catid=8:news)and a 3rd front might be formed.
Too much drama at the last minute :) Entertaining nevertheless
Mr.Nellai March 16th, 2011, 11:32 PM Savukku says ADMK alliance may break (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=551:2011-03-16-17-27-25&catid=8:news)and a 3rd front might be formed.
Too much drama at the last minute :) Entertaining nevertheless
That's good, if CPI+CPI(m)+MDMK+DMDK contest it will be a perfect combo
wlbkng March 17th, 2011, 12:05 AM Dammit just realized that my vikatan subscription ended. For some reason ICICI payment gateway is blocked at work. Got to renew it once I get home.
you can download it from techsatish.net just in case..
Anniyan March 17th, 2011, 12:33 AM ''15 வைரக்கும் தரத் திட்டம் என்று ெசய்திகள் கிளம்பியேத?''
''இைவ எல்லாேம கார்டன் ஆட்கள் திட்டமிட்டு பரப்பிய வதந்திகள்! '1.66 சதவிகிதம் வாக்கு
ைவத்திருக்கும் சி.பி.ஐ-க்கு 10 sட்டும், மூன்று சதவிகிதத்துக்கும் குைறவான வாக்குகள்
ைவத்திருக்கும் மார்க்சிஸ்ட்களுக்கு 12 இடமும் ெகாடுக்க முன் வரும் அ.தி.மு.க. தைலைம,
ஆறு சதவிகித வாக்குகள் ைவத்திருக்கும் எங்களுக்குக் குைறந்தது 21 இடங்கள் தர ேவண்டாமா?’
என்று ம.தி.மு.க. தரப்பு ேகட்கிறது. தாயகத்துக்கு விடாமல் ெடலிேபான் அைழப்புகள். '18
sட்டுக்குக் குைறயாமல் தைலவர் ைகெயழுத்துப் ேபாட ேவண்டாம்’ என்கிறார்களாம்
ெபரும்பாலான ெதாண்டர்கள். 'முதலைமச்சர் நாற்காலியில் உட்காரப்ேபாறது அந்த அம்மாதான்.
அதுக்கு நாம் ஒன்றும் ெதாண்டூழியம் ெசய்ய ேவண்டியது இல்ைல’ என்கிறதாம் ெதாண்டர்களின்
குரல்கள்.''
''ைவேகா என்ன ெசான்னாராம்?''
''எல்லார் குரைலயும் சாந்தமாக ெசவி மடுத்தாராம். மூன்றாவது அணிைய அைமயுங்கள், பாரதிய
ஜனதா கட்சி தயாராக இருக்கிறது என்று சில ெதாண்டர்கள் ஆேலாசைன ெசால்கிறார்கள்.
காங்கிரஸ் ேபாட்டியிடும் 63 இடங்களில் மட்டும் நாம் நிற்கலாம் என்றும் ஒரு ேயாசைன
ெசால்லப்பட்டது. 19-ம் ேததி வைர அைமதியாக இருங்கள் என்று அைனவைரயும் சாந்தப்படுத்தி
வருகிறாராம் ைவேகா!''
''ைவேகாவுக்கும் ெஜயலலிதாவுக்கும் நல்ல நட்புதாேன இருந்தது?''
''இது ஏேதா எண்ணிக்ைக சம்பந்தமான ேகாபமாகத் ெதrயவில்ைல என்று ஒருவர் ெசால்லி
அதிர்ச்சிையக் கிளப்புகிறார். அடுத்து ஆட்சி அைமயும்ேபாது, வலுவான எதிர்க் கட்சிகேளா,
பிரபலமான தைலவர்கேளா சட்டசைபயில் இடம் ெபறாமல் தடுக்க ேவண்டும் என்று ெஜயலலிதா
இப்ேபாேத திட்டமிடுகிறார் என்று அரசியலில் ஊறிப்ேபான ஒரு பிரமுகர் ெசால்கிறார்.
ெஜயலலிதாவின் நடவடிக்ைககள் இதற்கு ஆரூடம் ெசால்வதாகேவ அைமந்து இருக்கின்றன. 'நான்
புலிகள் அைமப்ைபத் தைட ெசய்தவள். அந்தத் தைடைய இவர் வாதாடி உைடத்துவிடுவாரா?’ என்று
சில வாரங்களுக்கு முன் கெமன்ட் அடித்தாராம் ெஜயலலிதா. அம்ைமயாrன் ேகாபத்துக்கு இதுவும்
ஒரு காரணமாக இருக்கும் என்கிறார்கள்.
இதற்கு மத்தியில் இன்ெனாரு தகவலும் பரவி வருகிறது. 'உங்கள் கட்சிக்கு 20 sட் வைர தரத்
தயார். ஆனால், 20 இடங்களிலும் இரட்ைட இைல சின்னத்தில் ேபாட்டியிடுங்கள்’ என்றார்களாம்.
'ேதர்தலில் நிற்பேத கட்சியின் அங்கீகாரத்துக்குத்தான். தன்மானத்ைத அடகுைவத்து சும்மா ஒப்புக்கு
எம்.எல்.ஏ-க்கைள ைவத்து பந்தா பண்ண மாட்டார் ைவேகா’ என்று ம.தி.மு.க-வினர்
ெகாந்தளித்தனர்.''
''விஜயகாந்த் எப்படி இருக்கிறார்?''
''ெபாறுத்திருந்து பாரும்! 41 என்ற எண்ணிக்ைகதாேன முடிவாகி இருக்கிறது. விஜயகாந்த் ேகட்ட
ெதாகுதிகள் கிைடக்காவிட்டால், அவேர தன்னுைடய முடிைவ மறுபrசீலைன ெசய்யலாம் என்றும்
ெசய்திகள் உலா வருகின்றன!'' என்று ெபrய பாம் ேபாட்டுவிட்டு கிளம்பத் தயாரான கழுகாrடம்...
''முக்கியமான ேமட்டைர ெசால்லாமல் ேபாகிறீேர?'' என்ேறாம்.
''ரஜினிைய ேசா சந்தித்த பின்னணிைய உம்மிடம் ெசால்லாமல் ேபாேவனா? அ.தி.மு.க.
கூட்டணியில் தமிழ் சினிமா நடத்திரங்களின் பலம் பல்கிப் ெபருகுவைதக் கண்டு, தி.மு.க-வும் காய்
நகர்த்துகிறது. 'ேதர்தலுக்கு ெரண்டு நாள் முன்னாடி நம்ம ேசனலுல தி.மு.க கூட்டணிைய ஆதrச்சு
நாலு வார்த்ைத ேபசினாப் ேபாதும்...’ என்று சீக்ெரட்டாக சூப்பர் ஸ்டாrடம் ெபrயவர் ேபச்சுவார்த்ைத
நடத்தியதாக ெசால்கிறார்கள். அேதாடு, 'நீங்களும் ரஜினிகிட்ேட நம்ம கூட்டணிைய ஆதrச்சு
ெரண்டு வார்த்ைத ேபசச் ெசால்லுங்க’ என்று ப.சிதம்பரத்திடமும் ெசான்னாராம்.
இந்த விஷயம், எப்படிேயா ேபாயஸ் கார்டன் பக்கம் ேபாக... அெலர்ட்டான அம்மா, அடுத்த
விநாடிேய ேசாவிடம் ெதாடர்புெகாண்டு, ''ரஜினி ெபாண்ணு நிச்சயத்துக்கும் கல்யாணத்துக்கும் வடுீ
ேதடி வந்து அைழப்பிதழ் ெவச்சாங்க. ஆனா, என்னால ேபாக முடியைல. அதனால், என் ேமல அவர்
வருத்தமா இருக்கார்னு ேகள்விப்பட்ேடன். அைத கருணாநிதி யூஸ் பண்ணிக்கத் திட்டம் ேபாடுறார்.
எனக்காக நீங்க ரஜினிையச் சந்திச்சுப் ேபசணும். அவர் ெமௗனமா இருந்தாேல ேபாதும்.’ என்ற
ேகட்டுக்ெகாண்டாராம். ரஜினிைய சந்திக்க ேசா அப்பாயின்ெமன்ட் ேகட்க... கடந்த 13-ம் ேததி அன்று
ரஜினியின் ேபாயஸ் கார்டன் வட்ீ டில் சந்திப்பு நடந்தது. 'யாருக்கும் ேநா ெபாலிடிக்கல் வாய்ஸ்’
என்று ெசால்லிவிட்டு இரண்டு தரப்பிலும் தனக்கு இருக்கும் வருத்தங்கைள ரஜினி
பகிர்ந்துெகாண்டாராம்'' என்றபடி, ஸ்ைடலாகக் கிளம்பினார் கழுகார்!
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 02:18 AM ADMK Announces candidates list for 160 constituences. No seats alloted for MDMK!!!!
So the arrogance started to come out? :ohno:
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 02:20 AM Guys!! another fresh rumor I heard from my friend @ Chennai. Amma trying to pressurize Vaiko to dissolve party and contest on ADMK ticket. He also added that she is planning to develop vaiko as #2 leader in ADMK. Any truth in it?
Athuthan Ju V kalugar sonathu....
Anniyan March 17th, 2011, 02:21 AM So the arrogance started to come out? :ohno:
Looks like the communist and Gap10 are also pissed off. Communist are holding an emergency meeting tomorrow.
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 02:31 AM Savukku says ADMK alliance may break (http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=550:2011-03-16-17-02-23&catid=8:news)and a 3rd front might be formed.
Too much drama at the last minute :) Entertaining nevertheless
Good, if that is the case.. surely ADMK will loose for their arrogance... Avathum penalae, kootani alivathum penalaenu summava sonnanga. :lol:
gvijayan March 17th, 2011, 02:34 AM CBI to submit the Crime Report on A. Raja on 31st March
http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/showxml.aspx?id=14287197&code=2302
Will Thaatha try to use his powers to delay this beyond elections, so he can be a little safe during his campaigns?
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 02:41 AM Looks like the communist and Gap10 are also pissed off. Communist are holding an emergency meeting tomorrow.
Should be.... Usually Communist use to contest from few seats at Tiruppur, but looks they are over confident and announced ADMK will contest whole of Tiruppur district. Gap10 was asking 2 seats from Salem urban area i.e Salem North and South.. but athukum aapu vechitanga pola...
kongutamizhan March 17th, 2011, 02:45 AM She could have easily avoided this by being flexible with another 20-25 seats IMO.
But last time vaiko couldn't control his party-members crossing over to DMK. She probably thought MDMK was the weakest link. If the race ends up neck-to-neck this time around, then DMK's first target would be MDMK.
Mr.Nellai March 17th, 2011, 03:21 AM Good, if that is the case.. surely ADMK will loose for their arrogance... Avathum penalae, kootani alivathum penalaenu summava sonnanga. :lol:
6 varsuhama kooda iruntha MDMk ku patta namam, next for people who vote for them.
Mr.Nellai March 17th, 2011, 03:25 AM MDMK to contest separately ;final decision on Saturday
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Mr.Nellai March 17th, 2011, 03:28 AM Actor Karthik to contest from Kovilpatti?
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Mr.Nellai March 17th, 2011, 03:29 AM Mylapore Kabaleeshwarar Car festival
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Mr.Nellai March 17th, 2011, 03:30 AM AIADMK female candidates
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Mr.Nellai March 17th, 2011, 03:37 AM List of 160 constituencies-AIADMK going to contest and the contestants
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Mr.Nellai March 17th, 2011, 03:39 AM ^^^^ You can see many doctors and lawyers in the list.
kg4129 March 17th, 2011, 04:28 AM வரும் சட்டசபை தேர்தலில்* அ.தி.மு.க., பொதுச்செயலாளர் ஜெயலலிதா திருச்சியில் உள்ள ஸ்ரீரங்கம் தொகுதியில் போட்டியிகிறார். கடந்த சட்டசபை தேர்தலில் அவர் ஆண்டிபட்டி தொகுதியில் வெற்றி பெற்றார் என்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது.
http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=206920
Hope, Trichy would get some attention hereafter as one of the powerful canditate contesting from here in Srirangam :)
Mr.Nellai March 17th, 2011, 04:37 AM Hope, Trichy would get attention hereafter as one of the powerful canditate contesting from here in Srirangam :)
The same attention that aandipatti got?:lol:
dhandapanik March 17th, 2011, 04:42 AM Guys!! another fresh rumor I heard from my friend @ Chennai. Amma trying to pressurize Vaiko to dissolve party and contest on ADMK ticket. He also added that she is planning to develop vaiko as #2 leader in ADMK. Any truth in it?
Really? if that happens thats a good decision. Currently we dont have #2 leader in ADMK.
kongutamizhan March 17th, 2011, 04:53 AM Really? if that happens thats a good decision. Currently we dont have #2 leader in ADMK.
It's good if it really happens. But what if it turns out to be just a pre-election promise and he is made a dummy piece? It will be difficult for vaiko to re-establish the party again. So not sure if he will be willing to take that risk.
kg4129 March 17th, 2011, 04:59 AM The same attention that aandipatti got?:lol:
Atleast we come to know there is one consituency called Aandipatti when MGR contested from there...:nuts:
One of the potential city being neglected for long time after Kamaraj Period, need some facelift and hope when Jayalalitha announce some infrastructre development works, think Trichy also...
Also I hope, if any bad thing happenning in Trichy, it would be highlighted thro media (atleast by SUN TV) and notified by amma
vs007 March 17th, 2011, 05:00 AM It's good if it really happens. But what if it turns out to be just a pre-election promise and he is made a dummy piece? It will be difficult for vaiko to re-establish the party again. So not sure if he will be willing to take that risk.
The true nature of Amma being revealed once again? Finnicky,unreliable,unstable?
Left parties jolted by AIADMK usurping seats in wish list
(http://www.hindu.com/2011/03/17/stories/2011031765430800.htm)
AIADMK-MDMK talks break down
(http://www.hindu.com/2011/03/17/stories/2011031764350400.htm)
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So Ramadoss was smart after all - go with a loser than an unreliable one.
kongutamizhan March 17th, 2011, 05:08 AM ^^ Regarding commies, I think there is something good out of it. I wouldn't want them anywhere near CBE or Tiruppur. Even better take them to Chennai. Just kidding :lol:
Vaiko is a different issue though. Like I said she should have been flexible with 20 seats minimum. If her intention to make vaiko contest in ADMK ticket is genuine it might be for good. But knowing her (More importantly sasi family) it's 50-50. On this issue I reserve my comments till mud gets cleared :)
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 05:26 AM She could have easily avoided this by being flexible with another 20-25 seats IMO.
But last time vaiko couldn't control his party-members crossing over to DMK. She probably thought MDMK was the weakest link. If the race ends up neck-to-neck this time around, then DMK's first target would be MDMK.
Both MK and JJ don't want Vaiko to become the 3rd most powerful leader in TN during their lifetime, so they did/doing all their goodies to stop it.
Vaiko speeches/manifesto would be such visionary one for the state development (not Chennai development alone)... unfortunately state is not getting such leader in power.
If not in MDMK, i would like him to come back either from ADMK or DMK in coming years. Let us wait and see!
b/w intha amma yaru pechai kettu ippadi ellam seyiranganu theriyala... gap10 was called as mud horse! but looks before election the mud horse will not be in ADMK alliance. Thatha chanakiyarnu prove pannuraru pa...:lol:
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 05:28 AM ^^ Regarding commies, I think there is something good out of it. I wouldn't want them anywhere near CBE or Tiruppur. Even better take them to Chennai. Just kidding :lol:
Vaiko is a different issue though. Like I said she should have been flexible with 20 seats minimum. If her intention to make vaiko contest in ADMK ticket is genuine it might be for good. But knowing her (More importantly sasi family) it's 50-50. On this issue I reserve my comments till mud gets cleared :)
You cannot take commies as such from Tiruppur dt. They have good vote bank in Tiruppur, Thiruvarur and Nagai dt!
Yes atleast 15-20 should have been given to MDMK, Just six is sheer arrogance..:bash:
kongutamizhan March 17th, 2011, 05:32 AM Vaiko speeches/manifesto would be such visionary one for the state development (not Chennai development alone)... unfortunately state is not getting such leader in power.
yep!! have read and heard that. That precisely is the reason I have a soft corner for him :)
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 05:33 AM ^^^^ You can see many doctors and lawyers in the list.
don't know where they got certificates...
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 07:56 AM 6 varsuhama kooda iruntha MDMk ku patta namam, next for people who vote for them.
If 3rd front happens with commies, DMDK, MDMK, Karthik, Sarath then pattai namam for ADMK only. DMK+Congie gvt will be formed then... 2G scam will become nothing like bofors.
spidermanusa March 17th, 2011, 08:07 AM I wanted to write a racy account of the elections. Hope I have done a good job. It promises to be more exciting once DMK releases its list. We can get an idea of whether DMDK will be able to manage DMK's onslaught.
Good account. I enjoyed the comparison. Where did you get the constituencies allocated for KNMK? I can't find it online. If you live in CBE you must be staying awake late into the night.
gtmashok March 17th, 2011, 08:52 AM yep!! have read and heard that. That precisely is the reason I have a soft corner for him :)
I think the problem with Vaiko is instead of developing his own independent vote-bank, which takes many years, he opted for alliance first with dmk, then aiadmk. NOw I am afraid vijaykanth's independent identity/USP has been compromised.
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 09:03 AM Good account. I enjoyed the comparison. Where did you get the constituencies allocated for KNMK? I can't find it online. If you live in CBE you must be staying awake late into the night.
It came in local paper Kalaikathir at Salem
1. Soolur
2. Pollachi
3. Palladam
4. Udumalpet
5. Perundurai
6. Gobi
7. Namakkal
Surprisingly nothing in Karur....
spidermanusa March 17th, 2011, 09:12 AM It came in local paper Kalaikathir at Salem
1. Soolur
2. Pollachi
3. Palladam
4. Udumalpet
5. Perundurai
6. Gobi
7. Namakkal
Surprisingly nothing in Karur....
I see them competing in Sulur and Palladam. Washout in all other places.
saysenthil March 17th, 2011, 11:09 AM Can India's nuclear plants survive natural disasters?
A country that is probably one of the best countries at disaster management, a country that is resourceful and has been well-prepared for decades for a big calamity like an earthquake or tsunami. Still, Japan teeters on the brink of a disaster at its Fukushima DaiIchi nuclear power plant following a devastating earthquake. The radiation leak in Japan is raising concerns over the safety of Indian atomic power generators also, bringing the focus back on our crisis management plans. While the government is trying to dispel public worries over the safety of Indian reactors, several experts and activists remain unconvinced.
India has seven nuclear plants with 20 nuclear reactors. These are located at Kaiga in Karnatakal; Kalpakkam and Kudankulam in Tamil Nadu; Tarapur in Maharashtra; Kakrapur in Gujarat; Narora in Uttar Pradesh; and Rawatbhatta in Rajasthan. Like the Fukushima plant, several Indian plants sit on the coast. The proposed Jaitapur plant also falls in a seismically sensitive area in Maharashtra.
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Anniyan March 17th, 2011, 12:32 PM Sarathbabu Elumalai on FB:
Dear Friends, Good afternoon:):):) This is my first announcement regarding the assembly elections.:):) Im Contesting from VELACHERY constituency which includes Adyar, Thiruvanmiyur, Besant Nagar & Velachery:):):) I request your support for the same...:) Thank You:):) Please inform your friends, relatives & colleagues regarding the same.....:)
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this means that he has the info from V kanth that he will stand for dmdk for 3rd front...or has Jaya revised the ADMK constituencies announced yesterday.
kalyan_erode March 17th, 2011, 12:35 PM I see them competing in Sulur and Palladam. Washout in all other places.
KNMK can never win in Perundurai & Gobi as both these places were strong holds for AIADMK.In Perundurai Communists also have a good strength and Gobi being Sengotiyan's own constitiunecy , AIADMK is strong there.
kalyan_erode March 17th, 2011, 12:40 PM If 3rd front happens with commies, DMDK, MDMK, Karthik, Sarath then pattai namam for ADMK only. DMK+Congie gvt will be formed then... 2G scam will become nothing like bofors.
TRUE..If Third front is formed, then definitely they will split atleast 15-30% votes from ADMK alliance votebank which will benefit only DMK...If DMK wins again , then Mummy has to dissolve AIADMK and has to go to KodaNadu for taking permanent rest..
Marathaman March 17th, 2011, 01:07 PM Japan earthquake: Japan warned over nuclear plants, WikiLeaks cables show (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8384059/Japan-earthquake-Japan-warned-over-nuclear-plants-WikiLeaks-cables-show.html)
Japan was warned more than two years ago by the international nuclear watchdog that its nuclear power plants were not capable of withstanding powerful earthquakes, leaked diplomatic cables reveal
While it responded to the warnings by building an emergency response centre at the Fukushima plant, it was only designed to withstand magnitude 7.0 tremors. Friday's devastating earthquake was a magnitude 9.0 shock.
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China suspends new nuclear plants (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/China-suspends-new-nuclear-plants/articleshow/7719509.cms)
BEIJING: China has put a temporary halt on its ambitious program for establishing nuclear plants across the country. It has suspended the approval process of new projects and ordered safety checks on existing ones.
The State Council, which is presided over by Premier Wen Jiabao, has also put a hold on ongoing pre-construction works in plants that have already been approved. China has six nuclear plants in operation, seven under construction and plans for establishing 33 more plants.
The government is revising the safety standards of nuclear plants in view of the radiation leaks in plants in Japan, the State Council said. New approval process will begin only after the new norms are worked out.
It said all reactors in operation in are safe and the country remains unaffected by radioactive leakages following explosions at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant caused by Friday's 8.9-magnitude quake and ensuing tsunami.
The radioactive leakages will be diluted by air and sea before reaching the country and will not affect China, it said. China's top quality watchdog has already strengthened monitoring of radioactive substances amid leakages in Japan.
"Safety is our top priority in developing nuclear power plants," the State Council said while calling for a comprehensive safety check and enhanced management over existing plants.
The government has ordered the National Nuclear Safety Administration to step up monitoring of radioactive substances and issue alerts timely, said the statement. It has already begun nationwide radiation monitoring.
jaish March 17th, 2011, 01:09 PM Japan earthquake: Japan warned over nuclear plants, WikiLeaks cables show (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8384059/Japan-earthquake-Japan-warned-over-nuclear-plants-WikiLeaks-cables-show.html)
Japan was warned more than two years ago by the international nuclear watchdog that its nuclear power plants were not capable of withstanding powerful earthquakes, leaked diplomatic cables reveal
While it responded to the warnings by building an emergency response centre at the Fukushima plant, it was only designed to withstand magnitude 7.0 tremors. Friday's devastating earthquake was a magnitude 9.0 shock.
Now our Neta's has got good excuse to say that even japan has failed.
Marathaman March 17th, 2011, 01:09 PM ^What is GOI doing? Are there any efforts to improve safety standards and features?
jaish March 17th, 2011, 01:12 PM this means that he has the info from V kanth that he will stand for dmdk for 3rd front...or has Jaya revised the ADMK constituencies announced yesterday.
Jaya is known for retracting. I think she is just posturing to show that she has got confidence of winning this election even with out any support.
Remember MK's is answer to question after 1996 Election when he was questioned the reason for the resounding victory. His answer was " Jayalalitha".
Marathaman March 17th, 2011, 01:18 PM Japan N-crisis: Indian nuclear plan may be set back by 10 years (http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-03-16/news/28698003_1_nuclear-plants-nuclear-power-nuclear-reactors)
Himangshu Watts & Soma Banerjee,ET Bureau,Mar 16, 2011, 03.34am IST
NEW DELHI: Just when India seemed poised to take rapid strides to meet its energy needs with nuclear power, there is growing pressure on policy makers to stick to the beaten track of coal, water and hydrocarbons to fuel the economy.
The risks in conventional energy are much smaller and manageable. The earthquake and tsunami that ravaged nuclear reactors in Japan are sending shockwaves across the world, but the impact may be sharper in India, which aims to have a capacity of 63,000 megawatts in two decades, rising rapidly from the current 4,780 megawatts. Experts say that India's nuclear programme may be set back by 10 years.
"The early signs are very worrisome. It will be difficult to find a suitable location in India where we can think of putting up nuclear plants. It will be the not-in-my-backyard syndrome that is expected to take over now. India's nuclear power plans will definitely have to slow down and projections for nuclear capacities will need to be revisited at least in the short to medium term," says Kirit Parikh, former member (energy) at the Planning Commission and co-author of India's integrated energy policy.
"May be we will need for new designs and newer technology that is safer. But for India, it could be a setback of almost 10 years. These new designs and plants will have to be tested and lived before India can think of employing those," he told ET.
Experts say it would be foolhardy to believe that Indian nuclear plants are safer than Japan's because they are mostly in regions that are less prone to earthquakes. "I don't think we should reduce the entire problems to earthquakes only. It could be terrorist attacks," said Leena Srivastava executive director at The Energy and Resources Institute in New Delhi.
Malaysia Mustafa March 17th, 2011, 02:57 PM அ.தி.மு.க., வேட்பாளர் பட்டியலை தன்னிச்சையாக அறிவித்துள்ளதால், அதிருப்தி அடைந்த தே.மு.தி.க., - மார்க்சிஸ்ட் கம்யூ.,- இந்திய கம்யூ., - புதிய தமிழகம் உள்ளிட்ட கூட்டணி கட்சிகளின் தலைவர்கள் இன்று சென்னையில் அவசர ஆலோசனை நடத்தினர். தே.மு.தி.க., தலைவர் விஜயகாந்த் தலைமையில் மூன்றாவது அணி அமையும் என பரவலாக பேசப்பட்டு வருகிறது. இந்நிலையில் ஆலோசனைக்குப் பின்னர் நிருபர்களுக்கு பேட்டியளித்த விஜயகாந்த் : அடுத்த கட்ட நடவடிக்கை குறித்து நாளை தான் முடிவு அறிவிக்க முடியும் என்றார். அனைத்து கட்சிகளுடனும் ஆலோசனை நடத்திய பிறகு நாளை அறிவிப்பதாக தெரிவித்தார்.
http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=207498
Lot of things happening.:nuts::nuts::nuts:
chidambaram_mech04 March 17th, 2011, 03:28 PM DMK announces it candidates. Karunanidhi From Tiruvarur, Stalin from Kolathur.
bonoslack7 March 17th, 2011, 03:29 PM Japan N-crisis: Indian nuclear plan may be set back by 10 years (http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-03-16/news/28698003_1_nuclear-plants-nuclear-power-nuclear-reactors)
Himangshu Watts & Soma Banerjee,ET Bureau,Mar 16, 2011, 03.34am IST
NEW DELHI: Just when India seemed poised to take rapid strides to meet its energy needs with nuclear power, there is growing pressure on policy makers to stick to the beaten track of coal, water and hydrocarbons to fuel the economy.
The risks in conventional energy are much smaller and manageable. The earthquake and tsunami that ravaged nuclear reactors in Japan are sending shockwaves across the world, but the impact may be sharper in India, which aims to have a capacity of 63,000 megawatts in two decades, rising rapidly from the current 4,780 megawatts. Experts say that India's nuclear programme may be set back by 10 years.
"The early signs are very worrisome. It will be difficult to find a suitable location in India where we can think of putting up nuclear plants. It will be the not-in-my-backyard syndrome that is expected to take over now. India's nuclear power plans will definitely have to slow down and projections for nuclear capacities will need to be revisited at least in the short to medium term," says Kirit Parikh, former member (energy) at the Planning Commission and co-author of India's integrated energy policy.
"May be we will need for new designs and newer technology that is safer. But for India, it could be a setback of almost 10 years. These new designs and plants will have to be tested and lived before India can think of employing those," he told ET.
Experts say it would be foolhardy to believe that Indian nuclear plants are safer than Japan's because they are mostly in regions that are less prone to earthquakes. "I don't think we should reduce the entire problems to earthquakes only. It could be terrorist attacks," said Leena Srivastava executive director at The Energy and Resources Institute in New Delhi.
like i always said, india is not suited for nuclear power considering the way the country is run. Why in the world would a sane person build a nuclear reactor next to a major city(Chennai)? Maybe the Indian gov. think tank sees it as a way to reduce population, so its a win-win if an accident happens or not.
China is way ahead of India and even they have stopped building new ones while the Indian gov. is doing what it does best, thinking. Maybe thousands of people should die in India to prove a point.
Marathaman March 17th, 2011, 03:31 PM If you read the article properly, China is planning on building 100+ nuclear plants. They are revising safety norms in the light of the Japanese disaster, and after this they will resume building.
Nuclear plants, are the best available power plants IF - and a big IF - they are designed and constructed properly.
kongutamizhan March 17th, 2011, 04:37 PM I liked (http://idlyvadai.blogspot.com/2011/03/left-and-leftovers.html) the title & yellow comment :)
vs007 March 17th, 2011, 04:49 PM If you read the article properly, China is planning on building 100+ nuclear plants. They are revising safety norms in the light of the Japanese disaster, and after this they will resume building.
Yes, all Govts including Germany and many others are doing the same, not sure if they would be seriously looking into the safety issues or some committee is gonna give a rubber stamp after 3-4 months and by that time TV attention would have moved onto some other crisis.
kongutamizhan March 17th, 2011, 05:48 PM Is third-front (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/03/17/admk-allies-exploring-third-front-aid0090.html)a drama?
சென்னை: தாங்கள் கேட்ட தொகுதிகள் கிடைக்காததாலும், விரும்பிய தொகுதிகளை வாங்கவுமே '3வது அணி' என்ற மிரட்டல் நாடகத்தை தேமுதிக, இடதுசாரிகள் உள்ளிட்ட நடத்துவதாகத் தெரிகிறது.
இந்த நெருக்குதலுக்கு ஜெயலலிதா பணிந்து வந்தால் 3வது அணி என்ற யோசனையை தூக்கி தூரப்போட்டு விட இந்த தலைவர்கள் தயாராக உள்ளனர். ஒருவேளை ஜெயலலிதா பணியாவிட்டால் 3வது அணி குறித்து இவர்கள் தீவிரமாக சிந்திப்பார்கள் என்று தெரிகிறது.
தனி அணி அமைத்தால் வைகோவை உடன் சேர்த்துக் கொள்வது என்ற முடிவிலும் இவர்கள் உள்ளனர். அதிமுகவுடன் சமரசம் ஏற்பட்டுவிட்டால் வைகோவை இவர்கள் மறந்துவிடுவர். அதாவது, ஜெயலலிதாவைப் போலவே, இவர்களும் வைகோவை ஒரு ஊறுகாய் போல பார்க்கிறார்கள் என்பதே உண்மை.
திடீரென நேற்று இரவு 160 தொகுதிகளுக்கான அதிமுக வேட்பாளர்களை அறிவித்தது அதிமுக. அதில் தேமுதிக, மார்க்சிஸ்ட் கம்யூனிஸ்ட், இந்திய கம்யூனிஸ்ட், புதிய தமிழகம் , மூவேந்தர் முன்னேற்றக் கழகம், பார்வர்ட் பிளாக் ஆகிய கட்சிகள் கோரிய தொகுதிகளும் இருக்கவே கூட்டணியில் இடம் பெற்றுள்ள அனைத்து கட்சிகளுமே கடும் அதிர்ச்சி அடைந்தன.
இது குறித்து தேமுதிக தலைவர் விஜயகாந்த் இன்று காலை தனது கட்சியினரோடு அவசர ஆலோசனையில் ஈடுபட்டார். இருப்பினும் இதில் ஒரு முடிவுக்கு வர அவர்களால் முடியவில்லை. கூட்டணி என்ற கான்செப்டுக்கு வந்தாகி விட்டது. இனிமேல் தனித்துப் போட்டியிடுவது என்பது தற்கொலைக்குச் சமமானது என்பதால் கூட்டணியில் நீடிப்பதே நல்லது என்ற யோசனையை கட்சி நிர்வாகிகள் பலரும் கூறினார்கள் என்கிறார்கள்.
அதேபோல மார்க்சிஸ்ட் கம்யூனிஸ்ட் அலுவலகத்துக்கு வந்த இந்திய கம்யூனிஸ்ட் மாநிலச் செயலாளர் தா.பாண்டியன், புதிய தமிழகம் தலைவர் டாக்டர் கிருஷ்ணசாமி, மூவேந்தர் முன்னேற்ற முன்னணி தலைவர் டாக்டர் சேதுராமன், பார்வர்ட் பிளாக் தலைவர் பா.கதிரவன் ஆகியோர் சிபிஎம் மாநிலச் செயலாளர் ஜி.ராமகிருஷ்ணனை சந்தித்து ஆலோசனை நடத்தினர்.
பின்னர் இவர்கள் அனைவரும் தேமுதிக அலுவலகத்துக்குச் சென்று விஜய்காந்துடன் ஆலோசனை நடத்தினர். அப்போதும் இவர்களால் ஒரு திடமான முடிவுக்கு வர முடியவில்லை என்று தெரிகிறது.
அதேசமயம், இந்த தலைவர்களின் இந்த திடீர் கூட்டம், பரபரப்பு பேச்சு, அங்கும் இங்கும் விரைந்தது ஆகியவையெல்லாம் அதிமுகவுக்கு நெருக்கடி கொடுப்பதற்காகவே என்றும் கூறப்படுகிறது. இவ்வாறு நெருக்கினால், 3வது அணி அமைப்போம் என்று சாடை மாடையாக கூறினால், அதிமுக இறங்கி வரும் கேட்ட தொகுதிகளைக் கொடுக்கலாம் என்ற எதிர்பார்ப்பில்தான் இந்தத் தலைவர்கள் இவ்வாறு ஓடியாடி வருவதாக கூறப்படுகிறது.
அதிமுக பணியாவிட்டால் 3வது அணி அமைப்பது அப்போது வைகோவையும் உடன் சேர்த்துக் கொள்வது, ஜெயலலிதா இறங்கி வருவதாக தெரிந்தால் 3வது அணியை கிடப்பில் போட்டு விடுவது, வைகோவையும் கண்டு கொள்ளாமல் விட்டுவிடுவது என்ற ஐடியாவில் இவர்கள் இருப்பதாகவும் தெரிகிறது.
English summary
CPM. CPI, FB, MMM and PT hold discussion about forming 3rd front. All the alliance parties of ADMK are upset over ADMK's candidates list. So they are discussing the chances for forming a third front.
CBE_Poonakutty March 17th, 2011, 05:54 PM She is a freak. A control freak. Venna therandu vara nerathula paanaya odaikuthu. thirunthatha jenmam.
spidermanusa March 17th, 2011, 05:57 PM KNMK can never win in Perundurai & Gobi as both these places were strong holds for AIADMK.In Perundurai Communists also have a good strength and Gobi being Sengotiyan's own constitiunecy , AIADMK is strong there.
Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? Maybe washout does not mean what I think it means.
kongutamizhan March 17th, 2011, 05:59 PM To soothe allies’ ruffled feathers, Jayalalithaa postpones campaign (http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article1547297.ece)
Kadaisiyila idhu ellamaE damassunu solli nammalayum vaikovayum kena payaluva aaka poranga
Going into damage-control mode after facing the prospect of the DMDK and Left parties breaking alliance over constituency identification problems, AIADMK chief Jayalalithaa today postponed her campaign that was scheduled to begin tomorrow.
Ms. Jayalalithaa’s campaign has been postponed as seat-sharing talks were inconclusive with the AIADMK allies, a party announcement said after miffed leaders of DMDK and Left parties along with minor outfits went into a huddle at DMDK office.
The leaders explored the possibilities of a common strategy to be adopted if they walked out of the AIADMK-led alliance.
The fresh dates of Ms. Jayalalithaa’s campaign will be announced later, the party said.
The leaders were dissatisfied with AIADMK going ahead with announcing 160 candidates for the April 13 polls, even before finalising the constituencies with allies who had their own wish-list.
DMDK was reportedly inclined to lead a Third Front if the AIADMK did not “mend its ways”.
With Ms. Jayalalithaa postponing her campaign to be in the city for consultations, hopes of a rapprochement are high and a final outcome might emerge by tomorrow.
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 06:17 PM thirunthatha jenmam.
I like your comment. :lol:
Athchiku vantha innoru valarpu magan, adambara kalyanam, mahamahan festival, traffic jam on anna salai ellam pakalam...
hope gap10 and commies nalaikku avanga moonchila kariya posurangala, illa ivanga moonchila kariya posikittu varuvangalanu parpom...:nuts:
Anniyan March 17th, 2011, 06:18 PM I wonder why Vaiko didnt start a TV channel. I think it is a must to be in politics these days.
Arasu March 17th, 2011, 06:25 PM As usual it appears TN voters are caught between the devil and the deep sea.
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 06:25 PM Three of gap10 conditions for rejoining the alliance are
1. Bring in Vaiko at any cost
2. Give back the 21 seats we asked for
3. Consult us before going for election campaign.
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 06:26 PM I wonder why Vaiko didnt start a TV channel. I think it is a must to be in politics these days.
What about Imaiyam TV?
CBE_Poonakutty March 17th, 2011, 06:40 PM I like your comment. :lol:
Athchiku vantha innoru valarpu magan, adambara kalyanam, mahamahan festival, traffic jam on anna salai ellam pakalam...
hope gap10 and commies nalaikku avanga moonchila kariya posurangala, illa ivanga moonchila kariya posikittu varuvangalanu parpom...:nuts:
I dont think the alliance is going to break down. I mean she has canceled her campaign (that is big for someone as egoistic as JJ), she has sent OPS and Sengottayan for fire fighting operations. So I beleive the alliance will be saved. And with gap 10 putting his foot down, even MDMK might be included. But all these leaves a bad taste in the rank and file.
I am glad JJ has finally met her match. Someone who can talk to her without bending. It is good that gap 10 has put some conditions. That is unprecedented in the history of Amma. Without gap10, she will be too much for the common man to take.
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 07:20 PM ^^
ADMK may bow to alliance
இன்று தேமுதிக தலைமை அலுவலகத்தில் விஜயகாந்தை சந்தித்துப் பேசிய இடதுசாரிக் கட்சித் தலைவர்கள், மூன்றாவது அணி அமைப்பது குறித்தும் பேசியதாகத் தெரிகிறது. மதிமுகவுக்கு இடம் ஒதுக்கப் படாதது, குறித்தும் இக்கூட்டத்தில் விவாதிக்கப் பட்டதாகத் தெரிகிறது. இதையடுத்து, அதிமுக தலைவர் ஜெயலலிதா, தனது தேர்தல் சுற்றுப் பயணத்தை ஒத்தி வைத்து, இக்குழப்பத்தை தீர்ப்பதற்காக வேலைகளில் தீவிரமாக இறங்கியதாகவும், ஓ.பன்னீர்செல்வம் மற்றும் செங்கோட்டையன், கூட்டணிக் கட்சித் தலைவர்களோடு, தொடர்ந்து பேச்சுவார்த்தை நடத்தியதையும் தொடர்ந்து, சுமூகமான ஒரு முடிவு எட்ட பட்டிருப்பதாகவும் தெரிகிறது.
தற்போது உள்ள நிலவரப்படி, மதிமுகவுக்கு 15 இடங்கள் ஒதுக்கப் படும் என்றும், இடது சாரிக் கட்சிகள் கேட்ட இடம் பெரும்பாலும் ஒதுக்கப் படும் என்றும், தேமுதிகவோடு மட்டும் பேச்சுவார்த்தை நடைபெற்று வருகிறது என்றும், இன்று இரவுக்குள் சுமூக முடிவு எட்டப் பட்டு, நாளைக் காலை அறிவிப்பு வெளியிடப்படும் என்றும் எதிர்பார்க்கப் படுகிறது.
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vs007 March 17th, 2011, 07:21 PM Three of gap10 conditions for rejoining the alliance are
Who are the gap10 you are referring to?
greatshankar March 17th, 2011, 07:30 PM Both DMK - ADMK had to bend for alliance, This election is not as they assumed or previous elections alliance.
TShyam March 17th, 2011, 07:36 PM ^^
தற்போது உள்ள நிலவரப்படி, மதிமுகவுக்கு 15 இடங்கள் ஒதுக்கப் படும் என்றும், இடது சாரிக் கட்சிகள் கேட்ட இடம் பெரும்பாலும் ஒதுக்கப் படும் என்றும், தேமுதிகவோடு மட்டும் பேச்சுவார்த்தை நடைபெற்று வருகிறது என்றும், இன்று இரவுக்குள் சுமூக முடிவு எட்டப் பட்டு, நாளைக் காலை அறிவிப்பு வெளியிடப்படும் என்றும் எதிர்பார்க்கப் படுகிறது.
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She could have done this before. Everyone would have been happy. Even MDMK would have been happy with 15 seats although they were reportedly asking atleast 21. This election has too many twists and turns.
greatshankar March 17th, 2011, 07:39 PM I loved Nanjil Sampath Comment "மதிமுக ஒரு வெண்கல பானை, கீழே விழும், சப்தம் வரும் ஆனால் உடையாது" :)
Arul Murugan March 17th, 2011, 07:49 PM Who are the gap10 you are referring to?
Captain Vijaykanth.
krishnaswamy March 17th, 2011, 08:11 PM Dont miss it.. Please read it.
http://truetamilans.blogspot.com/
தற்போதைய பொது எதிரி யார் என்பதை தமிழகமே அடையாளம் கண்டு அவரை வீட்டுக்கு அனுப்பும் வேலையைச் செய்யத் துடித்துக் கொண்டிருக்கும் இதே நேரத்தில் அலுங்காமல், குலுங்காமல் அதே எதிரியை ஆட்சிக் கட்டிலில் அமர வைக்க தன்னால் முடிந்த அத்தனையையும் செய்து கொண்டிருக்கிறார் ஜெயலலிதா.
ஜெயலலிதா தனது கூட்டணிக் கட்சிகளுக்குக் கொடுத்திருக்கும் இந்திய மரியாதைக்கு அசட்டுத்தனமான, திமிர்த்தனமான, முட்டாள்தானமான என்று இந்த வரிசையில் எத்தனை இருக்கோ... அத்தனையும் போட்டுக் கொள்ளலாம்.
அ.தி.மு.க. கூட்டணி வேட்பாளர்கள் பட்டியல் வெளியீடுவதற்கு முன்பு வரையிலும் தமிழினத்தின், தமிழகத்தின் பொது எதிரியான கருணாநிதி வீட்டுக்கு அனுப்பப்படுவார் என்றுதான் தமிழகமே நம்பிக் கொண்டிருந்தது. ஏன், கருணாநிதியே இதைத்தான் நம்பினார். இல்லாவிடில் சென்னையை கூட்டணிக் கட்சியினருக்கு தாம்பாளத் தட்டில் வைத்து வழங்கிவிட்டு தான் மட்டும் ஊரைவிட்டு ஓடுவாரா...?
அவரே பயந்து ஓடிக் கொண்டிருக்கும்போது மேலும் ஓட, ஓட துரத்தும் வேலைகளைக் கவனிக்காமல், போதும். திரும்பி வந்திருங்க என்று அறைகூவல் விடுத்திருக்கும் ஜெயலலிதாவின் இந்தச் செயலால் நாசமாகப் போவது அவரும், அவரது கட்சியினரும்தான்..! கூடவே தமிழகத்து மக்களும்தான்.
http://truetamilans.blogspot.com/
Leo_r March 17th, 2011, 08:30 PM ^What is GOI doing? Are there any efforts to improve safety standards and features?
In Japan, the damage to Reactors is not due to Earth Quake, but due to Power outage because of Tsunami, and consequent failure of Water circulation. Main power supply failed. Standby Diesel Generators failed due to flooding. Pumps submerged, Battery supply last for few hours only.
Problem :All were located at ground level and they assumed 5 m Sea wall will prevent flooding.
Lots of details in todays Scitech, http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/seta/index.htm
All these points seems to have been taken care of at Koodankulam.
TIRUNELVELI: Allaying fears in the minds of the public after the recent quake-tsunami-triggered explosion in a couple of nuclear reactors in Japan, Site Director, Koodankulam Nuclear Power Project (KKNPP) M. Kasinath Balaji has said the state-of-the-art safety measures in the 1,000 MWe capacity pressurised water reactors of KKNPP had made the reactors the safest units.
Speaking to reporters at Koodankulam on Tuesday, Mr. Balaji said the nuclear reactors there had been designed to be safe in all natural eventualities such as tsunami and earthquake. The buildings that house the reactor and its auxiliary equipment, reactor safety systems, safety diesel generators, the control room and other power generating equipment — all are designed to operate safely under seismic activity as “Koodankulam comes in a Very Low Seismic Category Zone 2 as per the seismic classification.”
While designing the Koodankulam reactors, the designers have considered the ground elevation of all the buildings to be starting from 7.50 metre (25 feet) above the Mean Sea Level (MSL) to preclude flooding due to any reason, including tsunami. These features got testified when tsunami struck the coast of Tamil Nadu in 2004. The Koodankulam site has been provided with a shore protection bund to a height of 7.50 metre from the MSL.
The reactors have the third generation safety design features, in terms of the various passive safety features backing up the active safety systems, ensuring that the core is always filled with water-containing boron and the temperature of water is well below the limits.
Twelve huge capacity water accumulators have been kept inside the reactor building to ensure that the reactor is filled with water with boron, in the eventuality of loss of water from the reactor core. In addition, the reactor is cooled by way of natural circulation in the event of loss of power supply to the recirculation pumps by the large capacity system generators which are kept at high elevation compared to the reactor.
Further, the steam generator water is cooled by a passive air cooling system which works on the principle of natural convection needing no external power. This ensures long term cooling of reactor core in the event of no power supply to the coolant pumps.
Each reactor at Koodankulam is provided with four redundant diesel generators of which only one is required to keep the reactor in cool state under shutdown condition. The diesel generators at KKNPP are located at a higher elevation of 9 metres (30 feet) above MSL, isolated from tsunami-like natural calamities.
The cooling water pumps for the diesel generators are also kept in secured buildings, capable of withstanding earthquakes. In the unlikely event of unavailability of all diesel generators, the passive heat removal system mentioned above, which is a unique feature of the KKNPP, will ensure cooling of the steam generator using the natural cooling by air. Thus the reactor core is kept in cool condition, ensuring that the fuel cladding temperature is within the limits.
In the most unlikely event of core melt, for which the probability is extremely low in this type of reactors in view of the above mentioned features, there is a special feature called ‘Core Melt Catcher' to contain the core melt if at all it occurs.
To convert any hydrogen formed in the above unlikely event, passive hydrogen re-combiners are provided in the containment to recombine the hydrogen back to water. This precludes the possibility of accumulation of explosive quantity of hydrogen in the containment.
Thus the events that had taken place in Japan would not happen in the Koodankulam reactors.
To verify the structural integrity of the above mentioned systems, the system circuits were hydro-tested and the result accepted by the Indian and Russian specialists as well as the Indian Atomic Energy Regulatory Board.
Safety drill soon
“Unit 1 of KKNPP is getting prepared for hot run in a couple of days when all the safety systems will be tested for its design capability during operation and power generation will start within three months,” Mr. Balaji said, adding that the safety drill involving the local communities would be conducted soon.
http://www.hindu.com/2011/03/16/stories/2011031665301400.htm
gvijayan March 17th, 2011, 09:49 PM Should we create a new thread for the Elections/Politics? We seem to miss the continuity here... The Nuclear plant discussions and the Assembly Election/Drama discussions cross-over and I feel we can create a new one.
bonoslack7 March 17th, 2011, 09:54 PM nonono...elections will get over fast.
bonoslack7 March 17th, 2011, 09:55 PM http://www.livemint.com/2011/03/18002742/Threetier-system-guards-Kalpa.html?h=B
A three-tier system of sandbags, rocks and embankment put in place after the 2004 tsunami that lashed this southern Indian coastal town can nullify the impact of sea waves as large as the ones that disrupted nuclear power stations at Fukushima, Japan, last week and stoked fears of a radiation leak, scientists say.
Though the 220 megawatt (MW) reactors at the Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research (IGCAR) are just two of India’s 20 commissioned nuclear power plants, they are the only ones in the direct line of a tsunami.
Most geologists say tsunami waves that can threaten India can only be generated by massive earthquakes at the volatile fault line that separates two tectonic plates, called the India and Burma plates, that are close to the Andaman islands.
“Rest assured, there’s nothing to be worried about,” said Prabhat Kumar, senior director at IGCAR. Kumar is in charge of constructing so-called fast breeder reactors, the next generation of reactors, which can produce about 500MW each. He is closely involved with the maintenance of existing reactors, which produce nearly one-tenth of India’s nuclear power.
The 11 March earthquake and tsunami in Japan killed thousands of people and caused explosions at three nuclear reactors. The catastrophe, which follows nuclear disasters at Three Mile Island, US, in 1979, and Chernobyl, Ukraine, in 1986, has triggered fears about the safety of India’s nuclear plants.
By 2020, India expects to generate at least 20 gigawatt of power from nuclear sources, an almost fourfold increase from current levels, by building more powerful reactors with the help of domestic and global private companies.
Kalpakkam, according to India’s seismic zoning maps, is in zone 2, or prone—at worst— to quakes of magnitude 5 on the Richter scale. In comparison, the 10 metre (m) high waves that lashed Japan were caused by a quake of magnitude 9.1 on the Richter scale just 130 kilometres off its coast.
Scientists at the Kalpakkam station, which is located 9.7m above the ocean’s surface, said attributes such as wave surge and impact were as important as the height of the waves to judge their destructive potential.
According to the region’s seismic zoning, the station is designed to withstand waves that are 5.2m high. In conjunction with the three-tier system that buffers the plant’s boundaries from the coast by nearly 500m, it is strong enough to withstand even 9m-high onslaughts.
V. Manoharan, an engineer at the plant who survived the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami by clinging on to rafters at the church he was attending on 26 December, said waves of the height of Japan’s tsunami would send some water into the plant, but it would “gently recede away, like waves at the beach”.
The 2004 tsunami, which sent 6-7m high waves that swept the residential section of the research centre to the Tamil Nadu coast, killed five employees, who were among a total of 30 casualties reported from Kalpakkam. The tides forced one of the reactors at the Kalpakkam plant into “a safe shutdown mode”—which meant the plant was manually shut down as a precaution, though, according to officials, operations were back to normal within three days.
Apart from this first line of defence, officials at IGCAR said the power stations were connected to a series of diesel- and battery-powered backups that could power the station at full load continuously for seven days and were designed to immediately begin cooling down the reactors.
On Tuesday, India’s apex atomic energy regulator, the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board (AERB) said it will carry out a comprehensive reassessment of safety and emergency mitigation measures at all the Indian nuclear power plants in the light of the Japanese crisis.
Emergency-preparedness plans exist for all nuclear power plants in India, and they are periodically rehearsed, AERB said in a statement. “It is constantly monitoring the situation at Japan’s nuclear sites in the aftermath of unprecedented earthquake and tsunami,” it added.
In India, out of 20 reactors— 19 of which are in operation— only two units at Tarapur, Maharashtra, are boiling-water reactors similar to the ones at Fukushima.
All the reactors in India are designed to withstand the effects of earthquake and tsunami of specific magnitudes, which were decided based on conservative criteria.
“India has to have a variety of power sources at its command,” said Baldev Raj, director at IGCAR, “As far as we’re concerned, whatever known risks—cyclones, fires, tsunamis, earthquakes—have been accounted for in our designs. We’ll have to wait for more details from Japan to see what more can be incorporated in our designs to make them safer.”
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Mr.Nellai March 18th, 2011, 12:35 AM நெல்லையில் ஜாதி இரண்டொழிய வேறில்லை
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எம்.ஜி.ஆர்., இருந்தவரை, முஸ்லிம்களே இல்லாத ராதாபுரம் தொகுதியில், ஒய்.எஸ்.எம்.யூசுப்பை போட்டியிடச் செய்து பொதுப்பணித்துறை அமைச்சராக்கினார். நெல்லை தொகுதியில் நெடுஞ்செழியன், வீரப்பன், பெயரளவுக்கு கூட ஓட்டு இல்லாத மீனவர் சமுதாயத்தைச் சேர்ந்த ஜி.ஆர்.எட்மண்டை நிறுத்தி அமைச்சராக்கி அழகு பார்த்தார். சொல்லிக்கொள்ளும்படி கூட ஓட்டுகள் இல்லாத பாளையங்கோட்டையில், நாஞ்சில் மனோகரனை ஜெயிக்க வைத்து அமைச்சராக்கினார்.
ஆனால், 30 ஆண்டுகால அரசியலில், இரண்டு முக்கிய ஜாதிகளைத் தவிர (ஏதோ ரிசர்வ் தொகுதியாக இருப்பதால் வாசுதேவநல்லூரும், சங்கரன்கோவிலும் தப்பித்தன) மற்ற அனைத்து தொகுதிகளிலும் வேறு யாரையும் வேட்பாளராகவே நினைத்து கூட பார்ப்பதில்லை.
கடந்த உள்ளாட்சி தேர்தலில் நெல்லை மாவட்ட ஊராட்சி தலைவர் பொறுப்பு, கூட்டணிக் கட்சியில் இந்திய கம்யூனிஸ்ட் கட்சியைச் சேர்ந்த யாதவர் சமூக பெண்ணுக்கு கிடைத்தது. அதையும் ஜாதி அரசியல் செய்து தி.மு.க.,வுக்கு பறித்துக்கொண்டனர். இந்திய கம்யூனிஸ்ட் தலைவர் நல்லக்கண்ணுவோ, தா.பாண்டியனோ அதைக் கண்டுகொள்ளவில்லை.
நெல்லை மாவட்டத்தில் யாதவர், சைவவேளாளர், முதலியார், செட்டியார் என கணிசமாக ஒவ்வொரு தொகுதியிலும் வெற்றி, தோல்வியை நிர்ணயிக்கும் மக்கள் தொகை இருந்தும், இவர்களுக்கு ஏன் பிரதிநிதித்துவம் தருவதில்லை என்ற கேள்வி, மக்கள் மனதில் கனன்று கொண்டிருக்கிறது.
எனவே தான், யாதவர் சார்பில் தேவநாதன், மாநில மாநாட்டை நடத்தினர். "காந்தியடிகளும் எங்கள் ஜாதி தான்' எனக் கூறி, வாணியர் சங்க மாநாட்டை நெல்லையில் நடத்திப் பார்த்தனர். திருநெல்வேலி சட்டசபை தொகுதியில் மக்கள் தொகை ஓட்டு எண்ணிக்கையில் நான்காவது இடத்தில் இருக்கும் சமூகத்தினர் தான் சீட்டு பெறுகின்றனர். மற்ற சமுதாய மக்களும் வேறுவழியில்லாமல் ஓட்டை பதிவு செய்கின்றனர்.
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Mr.Nellai March 18th, 2011, 04:42 AM http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/1732011/17032011-cni-mn-10/31425875.JPG
kongutamizhan March 18th, 2011, 05:50 AM What really happened behind the scenes to cause confusion on ADMK alliance? A Dinamani article (http://savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=558:2011-03-18-02-33-16&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2) thru Savukku.
Leo_r March 18th, 2011, 09:00 AM English lessons for roadside children
http://img.dinamalar.com/data/uploads/WR_959652.jpeg
Would love to see, Tamil Brahmin girls doing such noble service to rural children all over TN, to create an egalitarian society in knowledge. They could be good in child management and knowledge transfer.
Arul Murugan March 18th, 2011, 09:40 AM What really happened behind the scenes to cause confusion on ADMK alliance? A Dinamani article (http://savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=558:2011-03-18-02-33-16&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2) thru Savukku.
eppadi ellam kathula poo suthuranga parunga... mannargudi family mafia thaan karanamam...
Thirukuvalai family mafia and Mannargudi family mafia onna sera poguthu kadaisiya.
வெளியிடப்பட்ட 160 பேர் பட்டியலில், 70 முதல் 75 தொகுதிகள், சசிகலாவுக்கு சாதகமானவர்கள் பெயர் இடம் பெற்றுள்ளது. இதை நேற்று முன்தினம் மாலை, பட்டியல் அறிவிக்கப்படும் முன், கவனித்த ஜெ., பலரது பெயர், தொகுதி மாறியிருப்பது குறித்து அதிர்ச்சி அடைந்தார். மிகக் கோபமாக இது பற்றி ஜெ., கேட்டபோது, ஒவ்வொன்றுக்கும் ஒரு காரணம் தெரிவித்து, பட்டியலை மாற்ற இயலாதபடி, சசிகலா மற்றும் அவருடன் இருந்தவர்கள் பிடிவாதம் பிடித்தனர். ஒரு கட்டத்தில், "எப்படியும் செய்யுங்கள்' என, பட்டியலை தூக்கி வீசிவிட்டு ஜெயலலிதா தன் அறைக்கு சென்றுவிட்டார். அதைத் தொடர்ந்து, தன் உதவியாளர் தவிர அவர், யாரையும் சந்திக்கவில்லை. கூட்டணி கட்சியினரின் அழைப்பு வந்த போது கூட, "இப்போதைக்கு பேச வாய்ப்பில்லை' எனக் கூறி ஜெயலலிதா தவிர்த்துள்ளார். தற்போது வெளியாகியுள்ள பட்டியல், சசிகலாவின் குழுமத்தினரை பலப்படுத்தும் வகையிலும், அ.தி.மு.க.,வை பலவீனப்படுத்தும் வகையிலும் இருப்பதாக, அ.தி.மு.க.,வினரே கருதுகின்றனர். பட்டியலும், தொகுதியும் மாற்றப்பட வேண்டுமென எதிர்பார்க்கின்றனர். இதற்கிடையே, கூட்டணி கட்சியினரிடையே ஏற்பட்ட அதிருப்தியும், நேற்று மதியம் ஜெயலலிதாவின் கவனத்துக்கு கொண்டு செல்லப்பட்டுள்ளது. அதனால், கூட்டணியை திருப்திபடுத்தும் விதத்தில், தொகுதிப் பங்கீடு பற்றி ஜெயலலிதா விரைவில் முடிவு அறிவிப்பார் என, அ.தி.மு.க., பிரமுகர்கள் தெரிவித்தனர்.
Dinamalar
Jagadeesh R March 18th, 2011, 01:09 PM Thirukuvalai family mafia and Mannargudi family mafia onna sera poguthu kadaisiya.
^^^^
Super
Seyoan March 18th, 2011, 02:27 PM Would love to see, Tamil Brahmin girls doing such noble service to rural children all over TN, to create an egalitarian society in knowledge. They could be good in child management and knowledge transfer.
Why only Brahmin girls, dont others have that responsibility?
Seyoan March 18th, 2011, 02:40 PM What really happened behind the scenes to cause confusion on ADMK alliance? A Dinamani article (http://savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=558:2011-03-18-02-33-16&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=2) thru Savukku.
Shamefull, JJ has clearly shown that she cannot even run a party. How in the world she can lead a state.
Ms X killed a 1000 people because she was told to do so by her friend
Ms X destroyed 100 cities because her uncle told her to do so
Ms X tortured the poor because her friend's friend told her top do so
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so Ms X should be exonerated and trusted and be given mantle to rule because she did all these bad things because of others. Logic of a different kind of species :bash:
satchitananda March 18th, 2011, 03:09 PM Would love to see, Tamil Brahmin girls doing such noble service to rural children all over TN, to create an egalitarian society in knowledge. They could be good in child management and knowledge transfer.
Ridiculous statement. WHY only Brahmin girls.:bash:
The hypocrisy in the society is crystal clear in this statement. One side we claim we are all equals.. so why not expect other segments of society.. (when you claim equal there is no segmentation) On the other hand, you want to retain the segmentation artificially by saying Brahmin girls... Why cannot have your Kanimozhi type ultra modern girls get into the fray.. If you think they are not able to handle this kinda stuff ??
(Between I am not for or against any community doing or not doing societal work)
If the hands are tied or incapacitated, in danger, why not use to legs to atleast help you.. instead of complaining, only hands should do this job.
Why not take responsibility and you do something.. instead of expecting others.. When that Q comes, ppl tuck their tail and whine their inability for so and so reasons (excuses)..
Evolution in any aspect is a personal choice.. we hear great leaders studied under street lighting.. overcame odds... As long as we have a dependancy attitude and a begging bowl, progress is always controlled by others..
As long as we have a preacher attitude, the pulipit will be only web forum, where we can talk anonymously and get away..
DO ACTION.. SET yourself as an example thru action.
vs007 March 18th, 2011, 03:40 PM Would love to see, Tamil Brahmin girls doing such noble service to rural children all over TN, to create an egalitarian society in knowledge.
What have you done for them lately?
dhandapanik March 18th, 2011, 04:09 PM From Idly vadai blog..
http://therthal.vikatan.com/articles/images/17cartoon.jpg
(படம் நன்றி: விகடன் )
இது ஸ்ரீரங்கம் கோயில் யானை கிடையாது.
Malaysia Mustafa March 18th, 2011, 04:37 PM Seems like AIADMK alliance drama is over
அதிமுக கூட்டணியில் உள்ள கட்சிகளுக்கு ஒதுக்கப்பட்டுள்ள தொகுதிகளின் விவரம் வெளியாகியுள்ளது.
இந்திய குடியரசுக் கட்சி - செ.கு. தமிழரசன் - கே.வி. குப்பம், வேலூர் மாவட்டம்
சரத்குமார் தலைமையிலான அகில இந்திய சமத்துவ மக்கள் கட்சி தென்காசி, நாங்குநேரி
கொங்கு இளைஞர் பேரவை- தனியரசு தலைமையிலானது - நாமக்கல் மாவட்டம் பரமத்தி வேலூர்
அகில இந்திய மூவேந்தர் முன்னணிக் கழகம் - சேதுராமன் - திருச்சுழி
மனிதநேய மக்கள் கட்சி - ராமநாதபுரம், ஆம்பூர், சேப்பாக்கம், திருவல்லிக்கேணி
Dinamani (http://dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Latest%20News&artid=392234&SectionID=164&MainSectionID=164&SEO=&Title=)
Arul Murugan March 18th, 2011, 04:46 PM Seems like AIADMK alliance drama is over
அதிமுக கூட்டணியில் உள்ள கட்சிகளுக்கு ஒதுக்கப்பட்டுள்ள தொகுதிகளின் விவரம் வெளியாகியுள்ளது.
இந்திய குடியரசுக் கட்சி - செ.கு. தமிழரசன் - கே.வி. குப்பம், வேலூர் மாவட்டம்
சரத்குமார் தலைமையிலான அகில இந்திய சமத்துவ மக்கள் கட்சி தென்காசி, நாங்குநேரி
கொங்கு இளைஞர் பேரவை- தனியரசு தலைமையிலானது - நாமக்கல் மாவட்டம் பரமத்தி வேலூர்
அகில இந்திய மூவேந்தர் முன்னணிக் கழகம் - சேதுராமன் - திருச்சுழி
மனிதநேய மக்கள் கட்சி - ராமநாதபுரம், ஆம்பூர், சேப்பாக்கம், திருவல்லிக்கேணி
Dinamani (http://dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Latest%20News&artid=392234&SectionID=164&MainSectionID=164&SEO=&Title=)
Good.. but because of this ugly drama ADMK+ is going to loose some considerable amount of neutral votes who expects the change in present family rule.
Arul Murugan March 18th, 2011, 04:49 PM Seems like AIADMK alliance drama is over
அதிமுக கூட்டணியில் உள்ள கட்சிகளுக்கு ஒதுக்கப்பட்டுள்ள தொகுதிகளின் விவரம் வெளியாகியுள்ளது.
இந்திய குடியரசுக் கட்சி - செ.கு. தமிழரசன் - கே.வி. குப்பம், வேலூர் மாவட்டம்
சரத்குமார் தலைமையிலான அகில இந்திய சமத்துவ மக்கள் கட்சி தென்காசி, நாங்குநேரி
கொங்கு இளைஞர் பேரவை- தனியரசு தலைமையிலானது - நாமக்கல் மாவட்டம் பரமத்தி வேலூர்
அகில இந்திய மூவேந்தர் முன்னணிக் கழகம் - சேதுராமன் - திருச்சுழி
மனிதநேய மக்கள் கட்சி - ராமநாதபுரம், ஆம்பூர், சேப்பாக்கம், திருவல்லிக்கேணி
Dinamani (http://dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Latest%20News&artid=392234&SectionID=164&MainSectionID=164&SEO=&Title=)
Even if ADMK+ going to get majority it should be like this.. ADMK-100, DMDK-30, so that some one stays in line to put Arrogance DMK in track.
kongutamizhan March 18th, 2011, 05:19 PM From Idly vadai blog..
http://therthal.vikatan.com/articles/images/17cartoon.jpg
(படம் நன்றி: விகடன் )
இது ஸ்ரீரங்கம் கோயில் யானை கிடையாது.
This is applicable to an earlier comment made in this thread too :lol:
Subra March 18th, 2011, 05:39 PM This is applicable to an earlier comment made in this thread too :lol:
Neenga yara Yanainu sollureenga ?:)
kongutamizhan March 18th, 2011, 06:09 PM Even if ADMK+ going to get majority it should be like this.. ADMK-100, DMDK-30, so that some one stays in line to put Arrogance DMK in track.
Exactly!! DMK deserves to lose for its bad term. At the same time ADMK has to get absolute majority only after including captain's seats. That way we can negate the mannargudi family.
Also helps whenever amma goes off-track with her ego!!
kongutamizhan March 18th, 2011, 06:13 PM Neenga yara Yanainu sollureenga ?:)
HINT: Read the most recent 2 pages :)
krishnaswamy March 18th, 2011, 06:29 PM 2ஜி ஊழலில், கனிமொழி மற்றும் தயாளு மீது குற்றப் பத்திரிக்கை
http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=2
TShyam March 18th, 2011, 07:19 PM http://www.savukku.net/images/stories/18_March_2011/31922609.jpg
இப்படி மாட்டி விட்டுட்டியே படுபாவி.... நல்லா இருப்பியா........ நீயும் திஹாருக்கு வா.......
:lol::lol:
Savukku's sense of humor is great.
Arul Murugan March 18th, 2011, 07:25 PM ^^
I was about to post the same pic and comments here... you beat me in 2minutes.
TShyam March 18th, 2011, 07:36 PM :lol:
Even if ADMK+ going to get majority it should be like this.. ADMK-100, DMDK-30, so that some one stays in line to put Arrogance DMK in track.
I agree with you on this. MDMK + Communists + small parties also should get something like 25 so that if DMDK is unreasonable (maybe they unleash rowdiism) then ADMK can continue without their support.
kongutamizhan March 18th, 2011, 07:52 PM 2 is okay, more that that it's chaos.
irandirkku mel eppodhum vendam is applicable in this too :lol:
satchitananda March 18th, 2011, 08:03 PM ^^ Killer caption..
Maybe in madras bashai translation..
enna naina.. roota vittutiye..
satchitananda March 18th, 2011, 08:04 PM ^^ I think ADMK rule should come with checks and balances.. JJ has ensured that..
Than vinai thannai sudum, otta appam veetai sudum...
Malaysia Mustafa March 18th, 2011, 08:18 PM So everything over.
அதிமுக கூட்டணியில் இந்திய கம்யூனிஸ்டு கட்சி போட்டியிடும் 10 தொகுதிகள் அறிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன.
அவை:
குடியாத்தம் (தனி)
ஸ்ரீவில்லிபுத்தூர்(தனி)
திருத்துறைப்பூண்டி
சிவகங்கை
பவானிசாகர்
குன்னூர்
பென்னாகரம்,
வால்பாறை
தளி
புதுகோட்டை
Dinamani (http://dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=%E0%AE%87%E0%AE%A8%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF+%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AF%E0%AF%82%E0%AE%A9%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B8%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%81+%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8B%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D+10+%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8A%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D+%E0%AE%85%E0%AE%B1%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%81&artid=392262&SectionID=164&MainSectionID=164&SEO=&SectionName=Latest)
TShyam March 18th, 2011, 08:22 PM ^^ seats for CPI(M), DMDK, MDMK not yet decided right?
Malaysia Mustafa March 18th, 2011, 08:30 PM Today's whole drama is here (http://election.dinamalar.com/election_news_detail.php?id=559)
Malaysia Mustafa March 18th, 2011, 09:33 PM அமைச்சர்கள் கோ.சி.மணி, ஆற்காடு வீராசாமி, வீரபாண்டி ஆறுமுகம், பூங்கோதை, முன்னாள் அமைச்சர் என்.கே.கே.பி.ராஜா ஆகியோர், வாய்ப்பு மறுக்கப்படுவோர் பட்டியலில் இடம் பெற்றுள்ளதாக தெரிகிறது. (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=206402)
போங்கப்பு போய் புள்ளகுட்டிங்கள படிக்க வைக்கற வழிய பாருங்க
அ.தி.மு.க., கூட்டணி விரிசல் மகிழ்ச்சியளிக்கிறது: ராமதாஸ் பேட்டி (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=207548)
ஊரு ரெண்டு பட்டா கூத்தாடி(ராமதாஸ்)க்கு கொண்டாட்டம்
அ.தி.மு.க., கூட்டணியில் மீண்டும் உடன்பாடு : அனைவரையும் சமாதானப்படுத்தினார் ஜெ. (http://election.dinamalar.com/election_news_detail.php?id=559)
கேப்டன் & கோ : நீ ஏன் U-Turn அடிச்சு, என் மூக்க வொடச்சு......உனக்கு ஏன் இந்த கொல வெறி.
ராமதாஸ் : அய்யய்யோ, வட போச்சே
விஜயகாந்த் ஆபீசுக்கு இடதுசாரி தலைவர்கள் படையெடுப்பு (http://election.dinamalar.com/election_news_detail.php?id=435)
ஒரு குரூப்பா தான் அலயரானுங்க
அ.தி.மு.க. கூட்டணியில் இருந்து கார்த்திக் விலகல் (http://election.dinamalar.com/election_news_detail.php?id=172)
கார்த்திக் : ரைட்.......விடு
நடிகர் கார்த்திக் கட்சி 40 இடங்களில் தனித்து போட்டி (http://election.dinamalar.com/election_news_detail.php?id=372)
This is drunken monkey style
ம.தி.மு.க.,வுக்கு 23 தொகுதிகள் : நாஞ்சில் சம்பத் நம்பிக்கை (http://election.dinamalar.com/election_news_detail.php?id=188)
தி.மு.க : புள்ளயாரே பெருச்சாளி ல போறாரு. பூசாரிக்கு புல்லட் கேக்குதோ புல்லட்டு
அ.தி.மு.க., கூட்டணியை விட்டு வெளியேறும் திட்டமில்லை,'' என்று நாஞ்சில் சம்பத் கூறினார். (http://election.dinamalar.com/election_news_detail.php?id=188)
கூட்டணியில் ம.தி.மு.க.,வையும் சேர்க்க வேண்டும் என கூட்டணி கட்சிகள் வலியுறுத்தின. (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=207560)
நாஞ்சில் சம்பத் : மொத்ததுல எங்க அக்கா (அம்மா) ஒரு சூப்பர் பிகரு
234தொகுதிகளிலும் பா.ஜ., தனித்து போட்டியிட முடிவு (http://www.dinamalar.com/news_detail.asp?Id=198450)
கபீம் குபாம், குபாம் கபீம், கம்பி கும்பா, கும்பா கம்பி, முந்திரி பக்கோடா, பந்திரி முக்கோடா :nuts::nuts::nuts:
satchitananda March 18th, 2011, 09:53 PM ^^:lol:
Was Jaya bypassed ?? (http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/chennai/seat-list-was-jaya-bypassed-081) Interesting.. If even partly true.. its time to baptize ?? Chastise ?? the mannar & co..
kongutamizhan March 18th, 2011, 10:05 PM ^^:lol:
Was Jaya bypassed ?? (http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/chennai/seat-list-was-jaya-bypassed-081) Interesting.. If even partly true.. its time to baptize ?? Chastise ?? the mannar & co..
Curiously there is no signature of the AIADMK supremo in spite of the importance of the announcement.
Why did Jaya TV choose to broadcast something that doesn't have her signature?
If it is Mannar & Co's work, it's high time JJ should put her foot down firmly. Earlier before coming to power the better. It will give the confidence to allies and public too.
Mr.Nellai March 18th, 2011, 11:12 PM நெல்லையில் ஜாதி இரண்டொழிய வேறில்லை
http://img.dinamalar.com/data/large/large_207575.jpg
எம்.ஜி.ஆர்., இருந்தவரை, முஸ்லிம்களே இல்லாத ராதாபுரம் தொகுதியில், ஒய்.எஸ்.எம்.யூசுப்பை போட்டியிடச் செய்து பொதுப்பணித்துறை அமைச்சராக்கினார். நெல்லை தொகுதியில் நெடுஞ்செழியன், வீரப்பன், பெயரளவுக்கு கூட ஓட்டு இல்லாத மீனவர் சமுதாயத்தைச் சேர்ந்த ஜி.ஆர்.எட்மண்டை நிறுத்தி அமைச்சராக்கி அழகு பார்த்தார். சொல்லிக்கொள்ளும்படி கூட ஓட்டுகள் இல்லாத பாளையங்கோட்டையில், நாஞ்சில் மனோகரனை ஜெயிக்க வைத்து அமைச்சராக்கினார்.
ஆனால், 30 ஆண்டுகால அரசியலில், இரண்டு முக்கிய ஜாதிகளைத் தவிர (ஏதோ ரிசர்வ் தொகுதியாக இருப்பதால் வாசுதேவநல்லூரும், சங்கரன்கோவிலும் தப்பித்தன) மற்ற அனைத்து தொகுதிகளிலும் வேறு யாரையும் வேட்பாளராகவே நினைத்து கூட பார்ப்பதில்லை.
கடந்த உள்ளாட்சி தேர்தலில் நெல்லை மாவட்ட ஊராட்சி தலைவர் பொறுப்பு, கூட்டணிக் கட்சியில் இந்திய கம்யூனிஸ்ட் கட்சியைச் சேர்ந்த யாதவர் சமூக பெண்ணுக்கு கிடைத்தது. அதையும் ஜாதி அரசியல் செய்து தி.மு.க.,வுக்கு பறித்துக்கொண்டனர். இந்திய கம்யூனிஸ்ட் தலைவர் நல்லக்கண்ணுவோ, தா.பாண்டியனோ அதைக் கண்டுகொள்ளவில்லை.
நெல்லை மாவட்டத்தில் யாதவர், சைவவேளாளர், முதலியார், செட்டியார் என கணிசமாக ஒவ்வொரு தொகுதியிலும் வெற்றி, தோல்வியை நிர்ணயிக்கும் மக்கள் தொகை இருந்தும், இவர்களுக்கு ஏன் பிரதிநிதித்துவம் தருவதில்லை என்ற கேள்வி, மக்கள் மனதில் கனன்று கொண்டிருக்கிறது.
எனவே தான், யாதவர் சார்பில் தேவநாதன், மாநில மாநாட்டை நடத்தினர். "காந்தியடிகளும் எங்கள் ஜாதி தான்' எனக் கூறி, வாணியர் சங்க மாநாட்டை நெல்லையில் நடத்திப் பார்த்தனர். திருநெல்வேலி சட்டசபை தொகுதியில் மக்கள் தொகை ஓட்டு எண்ணிக்கையில் நான்காவது இடத்தில் இருக்கும் சமூகத்தினர் தான் சீட்டு பெறுகின்றனர். மற்ற சமுதாய மக்களும் வேறுவழியில்லாமல் ஓட்டை பதிவு செய்கின்றனர்.
Mr.Nellai March 18th, 2011, 11:14 PM ^^^^ Caste and nellai became inseparable after MGR demise
Mr.Nellai March 18th, 2011, 11:17 PM 2 is okay, more that that it's chaos.
irandirkku mel eppodhum vendam is applicable in this too :lol:
No! 2 official+ one already dead and also some say there is one unofficial
Mr.Nellai March 18th, 2011, 11:18 PM http://img.dinamalar.com/data/large/large_207552.jpg
TShyam March 18th, 2011, 11:20 PM http://img.dinamalar.com/data/albums/large/193114d83ac7795273.jpg
மனு பரீசிலனை ரொம்ப சீரியசா இருக்கே: நாற்பது தொகுதிகளில் தனித்து போட்டியிடும் நடிகர் கார்த்திக்கின் அகில இந்திய நாடாளும் மக்கள் கட்சி சார்பில், தேர்தலில் போட்டியிட ஆர்வம் உள்ளவர்களிடமிருந்து விருப்பமனுக்கள் பெறப்பட்டு வருகின்றன. சென்னை போயஸ்தோட்டம் பகுதியில் உள்ள நடிகர் கார்த்திக்கின் வீட்டிலேயே இயங்கும் கட்சி அலுவலகத்தில் வேட்பு மனுதாக்கல் செய்தவர்கள்
kongutamizhan March 18th, 2011, 11:28 PM No! 2 official+ one already dead and also some say there is one unofficial
Me talking about kids. Thappu thappa purinjikka padathu voy :ohno:
Mr.Nellai March 18th, 2011, 11:42 PM Me talking about kids. Thappu thappa purinjikka padathu voy :ohno:
குசும்பு!:smug:
kongutamizhan March 18th, 2011, 11:44 PM குசும்பு!:smug:
yaarukku? :)
Mr.Nellai March 19th, 2011, 12:11 AM yaarukku? :)
யாருக்கோ! இதுலயுமா? ஆமாம் அம்மா என்ன சொல்றாங்க , வழிக்கு வந்துட்டாங்களா!
kongutamizhan March 19th, 2011, 12:58 AM யாருக்கோ! இதுலயுமா? ஆமாம் அம்மா என்ன சொல்றாங்க , வழிக்கு வந்துட்டாங்களா!
VootukarammavaE sollra pecha kekka matengaranga. Idhula endha amma enna sonna enakku enna vandhichi :(
Mr.Nellai March 19th, 2011, 01:28 AM VootukarammavaE sollra pecha kekka matengaranga. Idhula endha amma enna sonna enakku enna vandhichi :(
:lol: சூப்பரா "counter dialogue" கொடுக்குறீங்க ஏனுங்க நீங்க கவுண்டரா! இல்ல அவர் வீட்டு பக்கத்து வீடா!
kongutamizhan March 19th, 2011, 01:46 AM :lol: ஏனுங்க நீங்க கவுண்டரா! இல்ல அவர் வீட்டு பக்கத்து வீடா!
No I am not a counter. I am a just a count for the counter (the almighty aka god who counts your every actions!!!).
Venam podhum idhoda niruthikkuvom :)
Mr.Nellai March 19th, 2011, 02:12 AM This is called kooooooooooootani dharmam
http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/1932011/19032011-cni-mn-03/3644453.JPG
Vicvin86 March 19th, 2011, 02:19 AM ^^ aka Kootu Kalavanithanam
Mr.Nellai March 19th, 2011, 02:21 AM S.V.Sekhar wants to contest in mylapore again
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/106/3160156.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/3160156.jpg/)
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Mr.Nellai March 19th, 2011, 02:21 AM ^^ aka Kootu Kalavanithanam
exactly:)
kongutamizhan March 19th, 2011, 02:23 AM ^^ Not surprising. If they agree on one leak, they have to agree on all leaks which will make everyone take a leak :lol:
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